Pod Insights The Ed Mylett Show How To Experience Deep Inner Peace w/ Gurudev Sri Sri Ravi Shankar About this episode I think the number one thing most people TRULY want is MORE LOVE and LESS STRESS… but the burning question remains: How do you actually make it happen?
Get ready to meet my exceptional guest this week, the remarkable GURUDEV SRI SRI RAVI SHANKAR. I've been a fan and follower of his work for a long time, and I'm genuinely thrilled to have him on the show.
Gurudev is a true champion of humanity, a spiritual leader, and a peace ambassador. Through his incredible organizations, he has touched the lives of an astounding 500 MILLION people in over 180 countries. His messages couldn't be more timely as he empowers and transforms individuals to tackle personal, local, and global challenges.
Our conversation is an absolute rollercoaster, covering an array of mind-blowing topics, including:
The role of DOUBT and how it impacts our lives
How to let go of things that no longer serve you and break free from unnecessary baggage
Gurudev's insights from negotiating peace in global conflicts
How the power of MEDITATION and BREATHING can reshape your daily existence
How to cultivate and nurture your identity
How to unlocking your hidden potential
How to find CLARITY
How to have more JOY in life
Peering into the mysteries that lie beyond this life's horizon
A thought-provoking discussion on the potential of PSYCHEDELICS
Let me tell you, Gurudev is one of the most awe-inspiring individuals I've ever encountered. As you listen closely, get ready to discover powerful insights that will guide you towards greater PEACE and BLISS in your own life.
These are the answers we all need in times like these—a compass that will help us navigate the stormy seas and find the serenity we seek. So, join me in this incredible episode and get ready to be transformed!
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1:31 Ed Mylett? This is the Ed Mileage Show. Welcome back to the show, everybody. I'm so honored to have this beautiful being sitting across from me here today. I've been a fan of his work for a long time. It's made a big impact in my life.
1:46 Ed Mylett? I guess the best way to describe him is he's a spiritual leader. He's an ambassador of peace in the world. He's a yoga guru, but he's also just a man who spreads love and bliss and joy throughout the world and gives people the tools of how to live their lives better, including mine. So Guru Dev, Sri Sri, Ravi Shankar, welcome to the show finally. Great to have you here.
2:08 Speaker 02 Thank you, Ed, for having me.
2:10 Ed Mylett? So good. You only flew 18 hours from Dubai to do this with me today. So that's all, everybody. So we're gonna make this as magical as we possibly can. All right, I have so many things I want to ask you. We really need five hours, but we only have about an hour. So first things first, I want to ask you about, you said something so fascinating to me about doubt. I want to ask you about this first. You said, "We really don't, we only doubt positive things. We don't doubt negative things." And man, I really started to ponder that. I meditated about it and it's very true. So I want you to start out today, just elaborate on that concept about doubt.
2:43 Speaker 02 Yeah. You see, when someone tells you, "I love you a lot," you say, "You'll ask them, 'Really?'" You go, "Really?" Right? And similarly, you know, we doubt our happiness. When you say, "Are you happy?" Well, "I'm not sure," is what the normal response we hear.
3:02 Ed Mylett? Right.
3:03 Speaker 02 But that's not the same thing when it comes to negative feelings. When you are depressed, you never say, "Well, I'm not sure if I'm..." You're so sure about your depression. You're so sure about your anger, right?
3:18 Ed Mylett? Yes.
3:19 Speaker 02 You say, "I'm mad at somebody." You never doubt a madness with someone, right?
3:23 Ed Mylett? Why is that, do you think?
3:25 Speaker 02 That's how it is.
3:27 Ed Mylett? Do you think it's our nature?
3:28 Speaker 02 It's the nature, right?
3:29 Ed Mylett? Do you think our nature...
3:30 Speaker 02 So that's why we doubt the honesty of a person. We never doubt the dishonesty of a person.
3:35 Ed Mylett? Gosh, that's true. When you believe somebody's dishonest, you know, your intuition tells you, "I know they're dishonest." But when they are honest, we still wonder or doubt whether they're honest with us. Is that because our nature is to resist... Because I don't really believe this intuitively either. So is our nature to resist a blissful or happy state, or is it just a higher threshold?
3:57 Speaker 02 No, this is the nature of doubt is such.
4:02 Speaker 02 The opposite of doubt is wonder.
4:06 Speaker 02 You know. The wonder always has a joy with it.
4:12 Ed Mylett? You're right. Curious, you don't, children have more wonder and curiosity, don't they?
4:16 Speaker 02 Absolutely.
4:17 Ed Mylett? And that's why they have more bliss in their life. Why do you think? More people who have achieved external success in their life? Aren't internally happier?
4:30 Speaker 02 You know, um, when you have put your hundred percent out there. That brings some sort of relief in you. Then that helps you to repose in yourself. Unless and until we repose in ourselves, we can't find inner peace or happiness.
4:49 Speaker 02 So the key is to repose. To repose, you should have the satisfaction, yeah, I did hundred percent. Suppose you're on a running race and you put your hundred percent.
5:01 Speaker 02 Then that, that frees you, you know, someone has done better than you. It doesn't bother you, but you have done your hundred percent, right?
5:09 Ed Mylett? I'm surprised to hear a spiritual guru say that. That it's good to empty the tank and to give a hundred percent of something because you do teach that. It's, you don't believe in just laying around and meditating a hundred hours a day and that somehow everything's going to be great in your life.
5:23 Speaker 02 See, meditation is, is a tool for dynamism.
5:30 Ed Mylett? What's that mean?
5:31 Speaker 02 That is, see, you meditate, you recuperate, you find the energy in you. But what do you do with the energy when you don't want to act?
5:40 Speaker 02 It's like you go to the bank, you take the money out and if you don't want to spare it, what is the point in having money in the bank?
5:47 Ed Mylett? That's really awesome to hear because, um, prayer's always been a part of my life. But meditation is a newer part of my life. And I have found this renewed enthusiasm and energy in my life and clarity also.
6:03 Ed Mylett? That I didn't have before. And I have to tell you that I've achieved more and more external, whatever you want to call it, as I've given myself the gift of a little bit more emptying of my mind every single day. I started to do yoga, which will really surprise my audience. I'm doing a lot more yoga. I'm actually going to a yoga retreat the end of May, and it's made a huge difference in my life as well. Now, the other side of the coin that you talk a lot about, that's interesting to me, as you say, the reason why people don't always get what they desire is that potentially they hold on to it too long, meaning they hold on to what they want too long. What do you mean by that?
6:42 Speaker 02 No, actually, what I meant is, you really don't realize your potential.
6:53 Speaker 02 So when you realize you have the potential and you have the right intent, the intention
7:02 Speaker 02 starts to manifest. But if your intention is clogged with doubts and uncertainty about yourself, whether you will be able to do it or not, then you find it hard to get what you really wanted.
7:18 Ed Mylett? Do you think that you can hold on to the thing you want so hard that you almost surrender the energy from it? Meaning, there's a nuance, I think, in life between having a goal, but also separating from the outcome all the time as you're in the process of achieving it. Does that make sense? In other words, there's a interesting nuance of being very goal oriented, something I want very badly. But sometimes I think when we hold on to the outcome too hard and too firmly.
7:45 Speaker 02 It just burns you out.
7:46 Ed Mylett? Yes.
7:48 Speaker 02 It just burns you out and it weakens you in many sense. It drains your energy. So what if nature wants to do something bigger for you? Why don't you believe that? You know, the higher self, the higher power wants to give you something much bigger. And your goal is something much smaller.
8:10 Ed Mylett? Yeah.
8:11 Speaker 02 And you're struggling with it. So I always say, when you have a goal, you should have a clause to it. This or something better than this.
8:18 Ed Mylett? That's really, I've not, see, I've been doing this, I'm 52 years old. I've never heard that in my life. And it's really true, because what most people do is they have a goal or something smaller than it. The idea that it could be bigger, and by the way, in my life, God's delivered to me so many dreams and so many achievements in my life and experiences that I never dreamed that are bigger and more beautiful and more magnificent.
8:40 Speaker 02 Absolutely. You know, God knows better than what you know about yourself, right? You have the ability to achieve something more. That's why whenever someone claims their success, I find it, it's a sort of ignorance. Because you claim success because you think you have only that much potential.
8:59 Ed Mylett? Wow. Now, you've been to some of the most dangerous places in the world, right? You've been to war zones.
9:08 Ed Mylett? You know, and you've tried to negotiate peace in some of the most unsettled places in the world. Can you tell me about some of those experiences that you took away when you were there? And what do you do when you sit down with two leaders that they literally would like to kill one another or kill one another's people? I mean, that's the most extreme, chaotic, lack of peace environment. And you've tried to negotiate peace in those places. What can you tell us about that?
9:34 Speaker 02 One was in Colombia, you know, with the far 52-year-old war. And then, you know, in the first place, they didn't want to even meet with me.
9:46 Ed Mylett? They didn't?
9:47 Speaker 02 They didn't want to. They said, you know, our God is Karl Marx and we only believe in communism. We don't want to meet with anybody. We don't believe in any spiritual thing. So then I was giving a talk in University of Havana. So they came there, they sent some of their feelers. Check out, check me out.
10:14 Ed Mylett? Really?
10:16 Speaker 02 And then they found I'm an interesting person. So they, then they were ready to meet with me. So when I met with them, their hope was that I would help them to change the mind of Colombian government.
10:33 Speaker 02 And give them an international support, hearing for them. So I said, yes, I understand your predicament. You are not having fun in the jungle. You are fighting for a cause. Your cause is to bring social justice to people. I said, I am for it. But the path you have chosen of violence, I don't approve of.
10:57 Speaker 02 Then I spoke to them. I do understand them very well. But they need to stop violence, eschew violence. And then come to talks in peace. And then I meditated with them. They did meditation with me.
11:14 Ed Mylett? They meditated with you?
11:16 Speaker 02 Yes. The next three days, I spent with them every day, talking and meditating with them. And the last day, you know, they came on their own to the press conference.
11:26 Ed Mylett? Wow.
11:26 Speaker 02 And they said, from today, we adopt the Gandhian principle of non-violence.
11:33 Ed Mylett? What? What?
11:35 Speaker 02 Yeah. When I mentioned this, neither the press nor the government were ready to believe. They said they're just buying time and this are their gimmicks. I tell them, please give them a benefit of doubt.
11:47 Ed Mylett? The benefit of the doubt, which is what we started with. You know, it's interesting.
11:52 Speaker 02 Then afterwards, after that, you know, for a month, it went on. Then they agreed for a peace process and the peace process happened. Then most interesting thing was, we brought the victims. I flew the victims from, you know, from Colombia to Havana, to Cuba. The victims came in front of them and they asked forgiveness with them.
12:19 Ed Mylett? Oh my gosh.
12:20 Speaker 02 See, yes, we have caused so much pain to your family. And, you know, they had killed many soldiers and the families of soldiers came and there was tears. And there was not one dry eye in that place.
12:34 Ed Mylett? How beautiful.
12:35 Speaker 02 And then they went on to do this process with many cities. There are, you know, twenty million people have been affected by the war.
12:46 Ed Mylett? Crazy.
12:47 Speaker 02 And, you know, they asked for forgiveness.
12:50 Ed Mylett? That is so beautiful.
12:51 Speaker 02 That that shows their, you know, magnanimity.
12:55 Ed Mylett? Well, I think it also shows that.
12:59 Ed Mylett? For human beings, that's the most extreme case of
13:02 Speaker 02 headache.
13:03 Ed Mylett? Lack of peace, or they're murdering one another. They're killing each other's children, right? You take that back all the way to a human being who's got strife with their spouse, or they're not talking to their mother or father anymore. Or maybe they have self hatred. Maybe there's an internal battle in most people. And by the way, I think there's an internal battle in a lot of people today.
13:24 Speaker 02 Absolutely.
13:25 Ed Mylett? And in our country, it's red states against blue states and, you know, Democrats against Republicans. And fortunately for us, it hasn't gotten nearly as violent yet as it has in some of these other places. But one of the reasons I do my show, obviously, I want to give people the tools to improve their lives and achieve more things. But one of the main reasons I do it is I want people to experience more bliss and more peace in their life. And it's why I've wanted you here so badly for so long.
13:54 Speaker 02 That's exactly what we do.
13:55 Ed Mylett? I know.
13:56 Speaker 02 We have these small capsule programs for sky breathing techniques. And when they practice it, they find themselves in a completely different space. They're able to shed the anger and frustration feel, you know, get connected with one's own inner state, inner peace.
14:16 Ed Mylett? Through breathing.
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16:22 Ed Mylett? You also have a book out coming out called Notes for the Journey Within. Let's let's because that's really the journey I'm on right now. And my audience knows it. I'm on this journey within I've. I think a lot of people master the external game of their life. They get pretty good at achieving different things, but the internal game is a different thing altogether. And so let's talk about that for a minute because you used meditation as a tool with with these leaders and part of meditation connected to meditation to me is breathing, right? Is some yoga practices. What would you tell the average person listening to this is like, I don't know about this meditation thing. I can't quiet my mind and, you know, breathing, really, you know, I'm going to start
17:06 Ed Mylett? breathing better and that's going to change my because by the way, breath work has absolutely transformed my life. And for me, I must tell you, one of the main reasons your teachings have helped me is. I'm sure it's the breathing itself, but it's actually the time I've taken just to be with my body and to be with myself and to just pay more attention to me and my breathing and getting quiet has caused me to be much more, I think I'd call it self-aware and intentional about different things. So what would you tell people? Because meditation is this broad topic and breathing. What would you share with us?
17:43 Speaker 02 You know, I would call it as a process of mental hygiene.
17:48 Ed Mylett? Mental hygiene?
17:50 Speaker 02 Like dental hygiene, it's a mental hygiene. You know, we get so stressed and neither at home nor in school, we learn what to do when we are upset, when our moods are bad, when we are in rage, when we are restless. Nobody has taught us how to manage our mind and to manage the mind directly is almost impossible. And breath is the leak. For every rhythm in the breath, there is a connection to our emotion and our state of mind. So breathing in certain patterns, certain ways can help us to come out of the despondency we feel with our own moods.
18:34 Ed Mylett? Really good. What I've noticed when I'm not in control of my breathing and anger rises in me, and they've been proven this too, that there's a lack of heart and brain coherence that happens at one time, and you actually give yourself a kind of a form of a lobotomy. When you're very angry and your breathing isn't being regulated, you're not paying attention to it, you actually give yourself a lobotomy. You don't process information as well. You don't make good decisions, correct? And that's what you mean by this hygiene. It's cleaning the system to some extent.
19:03 Speaker 02 Correct, correct, correct. And the breathing and meditation brings clarity in mind and focus in our awareness, you know, in our attention span. Today, what we see is a lack of attention span in colleges and schools. Our attention span is reducing day by day. Breathing and meditation help us to get over this attention deficiency syndrome. And there is more intuitive ability that comes up within you. You become more creative. And this is what you want, you know, whether you are in business or in academics. All that you need is an intuitive ability, force from within.
19:49 Ed Mylett? This is why you're brilliant. Let me tell you, I want to elaborate on that. Can I add to what you just said and acknowledge it? So what my breathing and my meditation work has done for me is my attention span has increased. And what I noticed with me was odd, like my paying attention to things that were always there that I didn't. And this may sound really corny, but it led to business success. So let me tell you. As I started to do more breath work and more meditation work, my ability to pay attention longer has increased tremendously. And I didn't realize how quickly in a day I go, oh, let me check my phone again. Oh, let me see this. Let me turn the TV on. Let me. I didn't realize at fifty two years old, how much my attention span had shrunk.
20:33 Ed Mylett? And it sounds funny, but I started to notice, this sounds funny, everybody, but listen to me. I started to notice like wrinkles on my hand that weren't there before. Paying attention to my hand, I've seen things that were there all the time, certain trees in my backyard that have been there the entire time I lived there, that I have never seen or recognized before. I've noticed the beauty in these trees. I noticed there's a part of my yard where I didn't even know it, where there's a hill that's in there. I thought it was flat. I noticed these little things. You think, well, what does that matter? I don't know, but it gave me a lot of peace and joy. And then when I'm in business meetings, now I'm noticing emotions on people and facial expressions and tonality that I wasn't paying attention to.
21:18 Ed Mylett? That's made me a better speaker, a better businessman, but that goes all the way back to breath work and meditation. These little symptoms showed up of trees and flowers and a breeze that have led to better decision making.
21:30 Speaker 02 Yes, Ed, you're absolutely right. You know, the first thing that it does is it improves your perception, observation and expression. You'll be able to express yourself much better, much clearer to people. That's one thing. I mean, the communication breakdown today in the world is because of this. Lack of expression and lack of understanding of others. These, all these benefits happen. There are hundred benefits, you know.
21:59 Ed Mylett? There are.
22:00 Speaker 02 Established evidence based benefits on this.
22:03 Ed Mylett? Can you imagine if every world leader of every significant country meditated thirty minutes?
22:08 Speaker 02 Oh, it will have a wonderful.
22:10 Ed Mylett? Can you imagine? Let me ask you this. What do we get wrong about meditation? Is there something that culture gets wrong about it? That they don't understand that's a mistaken belief system about it?
22:23 Speaker 02 I don't think any religion or any faith based organization opposes meditation. Meditation is getting connected to yourself that makes your prayers deeper. You know, I have a comparison with prayer and meditation. Prayer is like, God, give me this, give me that. Meditation is, oh, here I am, ready to listen to you. What do you have to say to me?
22:47 Ed Mylett? So good. Do you know that my dreams have become more vivid and clear also at night? I just want everybody to hear this, and I'm telling you, this isn't foofy stuff. I mean, it's foofy stuff, but it's also business stuff. It's life stuff. What you just said about your ability to express yourself and to communicate. Now, since you use the word self, let's go pretty deep here, because there's other stuff I want to ask you. So you said self.
23:13 Ed Mylett? What is self? I've heard you say you are not your body. You are not even your thoughts or your mind. So who am I? What is self then? If I'm not my thoughts, I'm not my mind, and I'm not my body. What and who are we?
23:32 Speaker 02 We cannot say I'm just my body. I'm not just my thoughts. I'm not just my emotions. You cannot say I'm not the body, but you can say I'm not just my body.
23:42 Ed Mylett? Not just, okay.
23:44 Speaker 02 I'm much more than the body, because body is changing, but there's something in me is not changing. Our thoughts are changing, emotions are changing. There is one aspect in you that is a reference point of all changes. Without that, you can't even notice changes. Right?
24:00 Ed Mylett? Right.
24:00 Speaker 02 You can't say I have changed unless there is somebody inside who has not changed.
24:08 Ed Mylett? Yeah, right, right.
24:09 Speaker 02 Right.
24:10 Ed Mylett? Yep.
24:11 Speaker 02 So change can only be noticed with a reference which is non-change.
24:17 Speaker 02 And this non-changing aspect inside of you that doesn't die, that doesn't, you know, age and that's source of all energy is not an entity, but it is a field, it's an energy. And with this reference in life, our other activities, our emotions, our dealings, everything gets a good foothold. They become very stable. You know, the glimpse of your non-changing entity or aspect inside of you can make your life so much more stable
25:02 Speaker 02 and powerful and focused and, you know, can give impotence to your activity or dynamism.
25:12 Ed Mylett? Do you think that that's why I've, I want to ask you this because this is recent work for me. Like, call it a year that I've been doing. I've noticed that things that used to make me very worried or very angry or give me great anxiety or trepidation.
25:32 Speaker 02 Doesn't do anymore.
25:33 Ed Mylett? It doesn't do it anymore. Or at least it does it a lot less. Is that a product of this?
25:40 Speaker 02 Absolutely, absolutely.
25:43 Ed Mylett? Do you have that?
25:43 Speaker 02 You're right on the dot, yes. You may get upset even now, but that doesn't stay too long.
25:50 Ed Mylett? Right.
25:51 Speaker 02 Even you may get angry, you know, you may shout something, but you know, it doesn't just touch you, it doesn't sink into you so much. So there is a part of you which remains very blissful, calm, steady and, you know, serene.
26:08 Ed Mylett? You're right. My faith has always given me a great deal of comfort. I'm a Christian. It's always given me a great deal of comfort and perspective. But my breath work and my meditation work has given me a
26:24 Ed Mylett? Perspective and calmness that shocks me. Because what you said about me, I've always thought, you know what, I run a little hot. I'll, you know, I'm just a wound up guy, you know, and. And I've found that actually I don't think that's me. I, I think that that was a program I was running. For years that I almost became addicted to these emotions of frustration and anxiety and worry and a little. Sprinkling a little anger from time to time. That was kind of my cocktail of. My emotions and I find lately it's more like gratitude and bliss and peace and. Perspective. It's changed.
27:05 Speaker 02 Oh, you're right. You know, this is what even, you know. What Jesus said, the kingdom of God is within you. Unless you. Become like a child from within, you know, getting into that space of innocence within you. You can't get to the kingdom of my father.
27:26 Ed Mylett? Do you do anything to center yourself? So you flew 18 hours last night. At least plus the drive, plus this, plus that, plus it's LA. You're driving to me today. Anything you do before an interview like this, or a moment like this, or a day? That helps center you? Is there something specific that you do?
27:42 Speaker 02 No, I don't do anything anymore.
27:45 Ed Mylett? Honestly?
27:45 Speaker 02 Yeah.
27:46 Ed Mylett? It's just your state of being now.
27:49 Speaker 02 Yes. You know, when you keep doing something for some time and then it becomes. Very obvious in your nature and you don't need to do anymore.
27:58 Ed Mylett? You. But you do believe in karma. And your definition of karma is something I had not heard before also. I thought karma was like, I do something bad, it's going to come back around and get me. I do something good, it's going to come back around and bless me. But you, you, I want to, I don't give it away, but you define karma as what?
28:19 Speaker 02 See karma is the impression in the mind.
28:25 Speaker 02 Karma has three connotations. One is it's the impressions. And then it is the tendencies and it is the fruit of the action that you have already executed. So, action is also called karma.
28:40 Ed Mylett? Action is karma. That was the difference for me. What do you mean when you say that? Because that was the difference, that action is karma.
28:48 Speaker 02 There is a term called karma yogi. Means you are putting your hundred percent and not worried about the result. That is karma yogi. And your action is an expression of joy rather than expecting joy out of the action.
29:05 Ed Mylett? Wow. Can you say that again? Say that again.
29:08 Speaker 02 See, usually you are doing a work to get joy from that.
29:12 Ed Mylett? Yes.
29:14 Speaker 02 Instead of joy as a product of action. Now here joy as an instrument of action.
29:23 Speaker 02 You are happy and so you do it. You know?
29:28 Ed Mylett? Those are the people that I remember in my life. You know, those are the people that, the reason why you say it again, the people that I have recollections of. That made impressions on me. They are joyful in their actions. Not trying to get joy from the result of their actions.
29:45 Speaker 02 No, you put your hundred percent and then your action is out of joy.
29:50 Ed Mylett? Yeah, I think about watching Michael Jordan dunk a basketball with his tongue out, you know, and he's about to dunk. He's just in such bliss as he was doing what he did.
29:59 Speaker 02 Yes.
29:59 Ed Mylett? Or a great artist playing a song and they're just lost in it, right? Or a speaker on the stage or an incredible school teacher teaching a lesson. Or a mother with their baby.
30:09 Speaker 02 Yeah, you love what you're doing.
30:11 Ed Mylett? Right.
30:11 Speaker 02 And you're not expecting some result out of it. Even if you accept, expect, that doesn't matter, but it's an expression of joy.
30:20 Ed Mylett? That's what I meant earlier when I said separating from outcome. Not being so caught up in the end result as the payoff.
30:27 Speaker 02 Correct.
30:27 Ed Mylett? And I think, I think there's actually studies now in the brain that say even when you get to the payoff. That the dopamine in your brain actually crashes when you get the reward. That the actual dopamine spike, the joy in your brain is actually in the process and journey of getting there. Right, they've actually measured it in the brain now. So it's how, it's how right you are.
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32:55 Ed Mylett? And I used to not rely on that. The Bible even talks about discernment as a gift, right? And I used to fear my intuition and not trust it and think, no, I've got to, I've got to research this or know it. But people that I know that, you know, frankly, make great decisions in their life, they tap into their intuitive power. And you believe that we all have intuitive power, correct?
33:20 Speaker 02 Absolutely. Every single person, even animals do have intuition. In fact, they are even more intuitive than human beings. We have intuitive power and we need to tap into it. That makes life a lot more fun and a lot more easier.
33:36 Ed Mylett? How do you do that? By just listening to that whisper, that voice in your heart and your head?
33:40 Speaker 02 For that, you need to have clarity in minds. If your mind is all with buzz of too many things and worries, forget about intuition. Again, here, breathing and breath work and meditation helps you to connect to that deeper self inside of you, which is non-changing.
33:59 Ed Mylett? What specific thing? I want him to read the book and I want him to go to your courses too. So I want to go and give too much. But what about breathing? What could you teach us right now as it relates to our breathing that would, that would benefit us?
34:10 Speaker 02 See, the first act of life is you took a deep breath in. Then you started crying. The last act of our life is you will breathe out and you'll make others cry.
34:22 Ed Mylett? Yeah.
34:23 Speaker 02 If you don't do that, then you have not lived a good life.
34:26 Ed Mylett? Wow.
34:28 Speaker 02 So in between, when we are breathing every day and night, we are releasing toxins from the body, we are bringing rest to our subconscious, unconscious mind. But we seldom attend to the breath, which has several patterns, several rhythms.
34:50 Speaker 02 So by attending to the rhythm of the breath, or breathing it in certain rhythms, it sets the clock in its right perspective, you know? No point in having a clock showing eastern time here in the west coast, right? Or giving in time of Israel in, sitting in USA. So you need to set your clock to the current position where you are.
35:16 Ed Mylett? It's really true.
35:17 Speaker 02 Like that mind, or body, or breath, or intellect, or memory, all these seven, our faculties, inner faculties, gets into rhythm.
35:29 Speaker 02 And so we are in the present moment.
35:33 Ed Mylett? That's what breathing's done for me. Focusing on my breath has brought me to the, I have a hard, I had a hard time just getting quiet, emptying my mind. And when I started to focus on my breath work, I realized I'm right here, right now.
35:45 Speaker 02 And it's easy.
35:46 Ed Mylett? Yeah, and it's easy. It is so easy. It's interesting in life, the things that are the most wonderful in our lives, we need to be careful not to take for granted. So you have this amazing spouse, and maybe over time, because they're just there all the time, you begin to take them for granted. Or, you know, you have children in your home, parents can relate to this, and boy, then when they leave, you just go, I hope I didn't, did I take it for granted when they were here? And breath is like that. Breath is with you all the time, and because it's with you all the time, don't you think we just sort of take it for granted that it's just there and it's not that big of a deal? You agree?
36:24 Speaker 02 Right.
36:25 Ed Mylett? Yeah. If you could see his face, he really agrees with me right now, so that's a good thing. I've made a very profound point, which I love to hear. Okay, let me get some good stuff on top of this. You say confusion is a temporary state. And I think that so many people in the world right now, they're confused. What's going on in the economy? What's going on in my own life? Am I really pursuing my true purpose? And people just...
36:53 Ed Mylett? And I, I feel like pain is temporary also in people's lives. But you talk about this idea that confusion is temporary. And I just wanted you to elaborate on that because I think people think they're going to be live in this perpetual state of not knowing their purpose or their passion or their cause or where they're going.
37:10 Speaker 02 You know, knowledge comes in contrast. It's always like that. You can feel the cold because there is heat. Similarly, there has to be some clarity only then you can even feel the confusion. If the confusion is so perpetual, you can't even feel it. You can't even know that you are confused. So they all come in little doses or little gaps. So in the gap, you realize, oh, I was confused or I'm in confusion. That is a clarity, see?
37:45 Ed Mylett? Yes.
37:45 Speaker 02 If I say that, oh, I am so confused, that means you have some clarity at least.
37:50 Ed Mylett? Right.
37:50 Speaker 02 You realize what state you are in, right? And so we cannot generalize and eternalize everything. Usually we say, I generalize, you know, I'm, oh, I'm always like this, I'm always dull and I always lazy. These are things that, you know, we tend to see that way. But in reality, you'd simply have to take a little time for yourself to have the clarity dawn in you. I would say more than, Parat, I would say more than confusion today, people are in a state of uncertainty.
38:35 Ed Mylett? Yes.
38:36 Speaker 02 Everything is uncertain. So the state of uncertainty causes more confusion in the mind.
38:47 Speaker 02 About the choices.
38:48 Ed Mylett? What I was going to say about that was,
38:53 Ed Mylett? I hope everybody can feel what I feel sitting really close to you. Because, energy is real. And when you're in the presence of somebody that has such peaceful energy,
39:04 Ed Mylett? or clarity, you tend to catch some of it. So like, as I'm sitting here listening, I'm finding myself like, very at ease, very peaceful, very, uh, clear in what I'm thinking about and that I want to do. And I feel like that's a, of, almost like a, an energy frequency that you, you give off. And I guarantee you, everyone who's come in your presence feels this. It's just, it's just easier. It's easier.
39:30 Speaker 02 You know, we can be more through our vibrations than through our words.
39:36 Speaker 02 You know, you may talk for hours, but then, if the vibration doesn't convey, nothing gets conveyed.
39:44 Speaker 02 So you can, one can stand and talk about love, for one hour. But if they're not living it, if it's not coming as of, in the vibrational level, you don't feel anything.
39:57 Ed Mylett? You're right.
39:58 Speaker 02 But a puppy in your home, a dog in your house, can make you feel that love. In no time. A baby can make you feel that vibes, right?
40:06 Ed Mylett? Yeah, just their vibrational frequency, just their presence. And you should ask yourself, everybody, I want you to talk about this too. When I'm around you, it makes me evaluate other people I'm around. And what energy do they give me? And, you know, I don't think people evaluate often enough, the vibrational frequency they're getting from the people they surround themselves the most with. Do you believe there are toxic people? Do you believe there's toxic energy? Do you believe people should be more vigilant in their evaluation of the human beings they surround themselves with? What are your beliefs about that? Your thoughts?
40:47 Speaker 02 As I said, we are the energy field, definitely. Each other's energy affect us. If someone is very angry and they're, they're coming with those vibes, and then, of course, it affects you. Unless and until you are very well, uh, established in yourself, you're very strong, you're very centered, then you take them all as kids.
41:12 Ed Mylett? Yeah.
41:13 Speaker 02 See, like a school teacher. A nursery school class teacher, kindergarten teacher, she knows kids come with all different emotions.
41:22 Ed Mylett? Hmm.
41:23 Speaker 02 And even if they are jumping around, some is crying, some is yelling, some is angry. It doesn't affect the teacher.
41:30 Ed Mylett? It's true. It's true.
41:32 Speaker 02 Because you have gone one step ahead to make yourself much stronger.
41:39 Ed Mylett? Hmm.
41:39 Speaker 02 So again here, breathing, meditation, if it is practiced regularly, it'll keep you in that state of positive energy. So the negative energy doesn't affect you that much as much as it would otherwise.
41:55 Ed Mylett? Maybe the best description I've heard of that is how you described the five elements. And then ending with light. Would you tell everybody about that? Because I think that that's, I think that that light is energy, right? Can you, can you tell them what the five elements are of?
42:11 Speaker 02 See, the, we have earth, water, fire, ether, these are the elements.
42:17 Ed Mylett? Hmm.
42:18 Speaker 02 But the one interesting thing, if you see,
42:24 Speaker 02 the lighter energy spreads more.
42:27 Ed Mylett? Spreads more.
42:27 Speaker 02 Spreads more.
42:29 Ed Mylett? Hmm.
42:29 Speaker 02 The finer it is, it reaches more.
42:32 Ed Mylett? Hmm.
42:32 Speaker 02 So mind is much lighter, in a sense.
42:36 Ed Mylett? Hmm.
42:39 Speaker 02 In meditation, one can experience this, you know, you cannot understand just by, as a concept.
42:45 Ed Mylett? Yeah.
42:46 Speaker 02 But as an experience, you can get it if you, if you sit with a teacher or learn or practice it, then it's easy.
42:54 Ed Mylett? What is Dharma and Shiva? What are those? What does that mean?
42:58 Speaker 02 See, Dharma is the true nature.
43:02 Ed Mylett? Okay.
43:04 Speaker 02 Your Dharma, see, your Dharma is to talk and to express yourself and motivate people. That is your Dharma.
43:11 Ed Mylett? Yes.
43:13 Speaker 02 A doctor's Dharma is to reassure people of their health and help them to get out of their sickness.
43:21 Ed Mylett? Hmm.
43:22 Speaker 02 Right? A teacher's dharma is to dispel the ignorance and get knowledge to the student. So dharma is that translate, that's your nature which translates into action.
43:38 Ed Mylett? That's Dharma. What is Shiva?
43:40 Speaker 02 Shiva is that principle, the samam-bhonom of all creation.
43:46 Ed Mylett? Got it.
43:46 Speaker 02 That in which everything is, into which everything goes.
43:51 Ed Mylett? Hmm.
43:52 Speaker 02 And by which everything is sustained and are born. That, that field which is truth, beauty and benevolence, that is Shiva.
44:02 Ed Mylett? I love this. Was there an experience early in your life that put you on this path that you're on? Like, how do you become you?
44:10 Ed Mylett? Is there something that happened?
44:11 Speaker 02 No, no, nothing special happened. Usually people come on spiritual path that some drastic, either tragedy or a incident has happened. And none of those hit me. From my childhood, I knew I came for doing some work.
44:27 Ed Mylett? You knew as a little boy?
44:30 Ed Mylett? Did you have some special insights or feelings into people? I think, we all have these gifts, right? You said minds to communicate or motivate. But certain people in certain areas, I believe, are born with an abundance of one or more of those things. So I probably was born with maybe a proclivity to communicate or speak.
44:49 Speaker 02 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
44:49 Ed Mylett? Right? And so yours was, did you?
44:52 Speaker 02 See, every child has that, you know?
44:55 Ed Mylett? Right.
44:55 Speaker 02 We all have the joy, we have all bliss. Every baby comes to this world as a bundle of joy. Bundle of bliss. And people on the course of days, years, they lose it. I didn't lose it, I'm holding on to it.
45:10 Ed Mylett? You've held on to yours. Look at how joyful you are. You laugh a lot, you, you. I just feel like there's a lot of people that would listen to this and go, I don't know what mine is though. So I, I think, I think you would agree with me. I think a lot of people.
45:25 Speaker 02 It's good. You know, it's good to say, I don't know about myself, rather than putting a label on yourself about all your limitations or, you know?
45:36 Ed Mylett? Do you think, well, that's good to know. So I think you just gave a lot of people a little break right there that they're like, okay, maybe it's good that I don't know. But it wouldn't be good to end your life at the end and never figure out what it was. Right? So it might be okay right now not to know because that creates curiosity. But nobody wants to get to 110 years old and go, I never figured out my purpose. Right? Nobody wants to get to there.
45:57 Speaker 02 Yeah.
45:58 Ed Mylett? So is there, is there a way that someone begins?
46:02 Speaker 02 No, first, the first step is to say, acknowledge that I don't know about myself or my abilities. I may have many abilities. That takes you out of your limited identity with which you are crushing yourself or limiting your growth or limiting your expression of abilities that you are endowed with.
46:28 Speaker 02 A second step is to say, I can do whatever I decide to do, whatever I wish to do.
46:39 Ed Mylett? I, I think more people, I gotta say something to you about that. I want to talk to you about this. Like I'm just, everyone gets to listening to you and I talking for a minute. This isn't for everybody else. I've realized in me lately.
46:55 Ed Mylett? I don't know if it's growth or just change, but the parts of me. I think you need to check in on yourself from time to time and upend audit what matters now compared to before. So when I was a young man, I wanted to be successful and influential and achieve and, and whatever all that comes with that, probably rich, right? Probably have money, even though I never really thought a lot about that. And then I got to a stage in my life that I think I'm in now where my real mission and goal is just to contribute as much as I can to other people. But there's this other part of me that now.
47:42 Ed Mylett? Feels he needs a time of rest and rediscovery and recuperation. And it's an interesting thing for me because all of my friends are still like one of the other two versions of me. And so I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna write this book. Where's your new book, Ed? You haven't written your next book. And there's this part of my spirit that's just saying, no, this is, and I haven't know that I've done it yet, but like, right now, I feel like I'm supposed to be resting and recovering and recuperating a little bit. And it's very foreign to me because I've never allowed myself to think that before or feel those things before. And I really wanna turn inward right now.
48:23 Ed Mylett? And I feel like I'd be more valuable to other people going forward if I turned introspective and inward for a while. Yet I have nobody in my circle who's at that stage. It's not like I've grown out of something, I've just morphed, changed.
48:39 Speaker 02 This is very interesting and it's essential thing to check the burnout. You see, activity and rest, they go hand in hand. It's not that you first achieve success and then one day you will come and rest. Rest will help you to achieve things in much more effortless and efficient manner. What you would put, you know, yourself so much and still your success is less, that that means that you have not rested enough, you have not taken that inner look.
49:15 Ed Mylett? Right.
49:16 Speaker 02 See? So they are complementary, they appear to be opposite, but they're complementary. Now, there are two types of joy. One joy is you achieve something, you success, when you get something, you have, you're happy, right? And you get a present on the Christmas Eve or your birthday and then you're all curious to open it and, you know, there is a joy in getting, that's an infant joy. We have all grown with that joy.
49:49 Speaker 02 But there is another joy that comes to you when you give.
49:53 Ed Mylett? Yeah.
49:54 Speaker 02 The joy of a grandmother. I often say the joy of a grandfather, grandmother is in when they give to the kids and in the joy of them, they find their own joy.
50:04 Ed Mylett? Yes.
50:05 Speaker 02 So we have to grow from the joy of grabbing and getting to joy of giving, contributing. That would bring immense satisfaction and it is restful too.
50:22 Ed Mylett? You're right. That was really good right there.
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50:57 Ed Mylett? That was really, really good right there. You also say, don't sit around and analyze yourself too much, which I think is interesting coming from a guru, right? Like you don't sit around too much because does that mean if you just become so self-involved if you analyze too much your own life that you can almost become, it almost becomes an ego thing? What do you mean when you say that? Cause I think, I think there's a community of people, I think you'd agree with me. There's a bunch of people in the world that are just go, go, go, go, go. And they don't take any time whatsoever to give themselves the gift of self-reflection analysis. Then there's another group of people that all they're doing is analyzing themselves constantly. They're not getting around to doing a whole lot, right?
51:38 Speaker 02 It's like chewing that, it's like chewing gum. You're chewing it and not getting anything out of it. It's all patterns and thoughts and they come and they go, you know, it's just in a field, places impact you, people impact your thought process and all that. And why do you have to analyze so much and identify yourself with those thoughts?
52:00 Ed Mylett? Yeah.
52:01 Speaker 02 You know, you don't need to do that. I said, just move on.
52:04 Ed Mylett? Just keep moving.
52:05 Speaker 02 Keep moving.
52:06 Ed Mylett? So you talk about this guy last year who won the Nobel Prize in Physics and basically his overall belief system was, none of this is real, right? So we, I want you to talk about this because it's kind of, the guy won a Nobel Prize in Physics and is basically his conclusion is.
52:22 Speaker 02 Three scientists, three of them said that.
52:25 Ed Mylett? Tell us about that. Tell us about that.
52:26 Speaker 02 Well, this has been said in ancient philosophy long time back. You know, the world is like a dream. It's unreal. What is real is within you.
52:38 Speaker 02 So realize that something in you which doesn't change and you will realize everything else is temporary. Only the fact stays on your face and nothing is permanent. See, our thoughts are not there all the time. Our thoughts are not, you know, emotions are changing. Our body is changing. You get wrinkles, you get whatever, Botox and all that you do, still it is changing, right?
53:09 Ed Mylett? You're right. You, um,
53:13 Ed Mylett? you've lived an amazing life.
53:16 Ed Mylett? And I'm curious, what do you believe is on the other side of this?
53:24 Speaker 02 It's a surprise. Let us keep some surprise. Why do you want to know everything right away?
53:29 Ed Mylett? Right, right. So you're okay with not knowing every element of it?
53:35 Speaker 02 I don't need to analyze that. I know because that, you know, when you go deep within yourself, you know that there is something that is, that goes from life to life.
53:46 Ed Mylett? But don't you think that that's the, here's why I ask it.
53:51 Ed Mylett? I think it's the, I think it's the primary question that human beings live with since the day they were born. Is what does this mean? Is this real?
54:01 Speaker 02 That's good. That that's a good question to have. This question helps us like a vehicle to move where we want to go. The spiritual journey. We should not be in a hurry to find an answer for it. Who am I? What do I want? Where do I go? What is the purpose of my life? These questions themselves removes all the cobwebs on our path. It makes our it brings clarity and direction to where we want to go. I usually say go with negation. If you are confused about the purpose of your life. Now list out what is not the purpose of your life.
54:46 Speaker 02 The purpose of your life is not to be miserable and make others miserable. Not to be greedy and just get swayed away by someone else's mistakes.
54:58 Ed Mylett? Yes.
54:59 Speaker 02 And you know? Other thing I say is anger is a punishment. You give it to yourself or someone else's mistake.
55:09 Ed Mylett? Man, is that the truth? You know, I gotta tell you something. I never thought I would say that Gurudev and Matthew McConaughey share a similar belief system. But you know, the actor Matthew McConaughey, he was just on my show recently. And we were talking about trying to figure out who you are and what your identity is. And he goes, well, I think you ought to start with who you're not. What am I not? And it's almost identical to what you just said. And so he said it with a totally different accent than you in a completely different background. But it's this it's a very similar conclusion. So, all right, I got a couple of things I gotta ask you about psychedelics. You like them, you don't like them?
55:47 Speaker 02 I say stay away from them.
55:49 Ed Mylett? Okay. Why?
55:53 Speaker 02 I see people have used it and they don't look very happy and healthy either. And when you can do it all, when you can have that high, just with your own breath, why do you spend money and your health to get an altered state of consciousness?
56:13 Ed Mylett? Now, I didn't think you were gonna say that, and that's interesting. I almost wish I asked that in the beginning of the interview, so everybody, because you know it's the thing right now.
56:22 Speaker 02 Yeah, it's a temporary high that people experience. But I can say you can do and experience permanent high and feel healthy and have less sleep, three, four hours sleep, and you get many powers in your own system. You know, you become a powerhouse if you start meditating and doing breathing.
56:44 Ed Mylett? Did you say three or four hours sleep?
56:46 Speaker 02 Yeah.
56:47 Ed Mylett? Wait a minute, is that what you get a night?
56:49 Speaker 02 Yeah, four hours, three hours, that's good enough.
56:52 Ed Mylett? You have this much energy. Stop it, wait a minute. You have this much energy, you've flown across the planet to come see me here today, and you're telling me that you average three or four hours of sleep?
57:04 Speaker 02 Yeah, yeah.
57:05 Ed Mylett? Well, you say that like, yeah, of course I do. You know that that's not normal.
57:09 Speaker 02 No, but see, if you meditate, you get to that. I'm not telling you should not, should straight away start doing it, you know, you'll be a wreck. I don't want you to do that, try that, but you know, that will be enough for you. It's not insomnia, by the way. I can sleep if I want to, I can sleep six hours later, but.
57:29 Ed Mylett? You don't. How is your, how is your energy level? So, I've watched videos of you for a long time. I've watched you all the way back to when you had dark hair. Okay, and now it's not so dark anymore. So, do you feel older? Do you feel less energy?
57:45 Speaker 02 What do you think?
57:45 Ed Mylett? I don't think you do, and that's surprising.
57:47 Speaker 02 Yeah, you're right. That's what, that's what, yeah.
57:50 Ed Mylett? And you attribute that to just the years and years and years of work you've done?
57:57 Speaker 02 Just being the space of yourself, love, and nothing, nothing other than that.
58:05 Ed Mylett? What a great reflection you are of, um, no, your great expression of joy and love. And I'm telling you, everyone, like, you feel it when you're, when you're in his presence. Okay, I'll give you one more question because we've taken up so much time today. And, um, and again, I feel like I legitimately have gotten to like four percent of the things that I want to ask you. So you're gonna have to fly 20 hours back and do this again when we have another one of these. But if you, if someone was listening, they said, listen, I've had some things happen to me in my life.
58:39 Ed Mylett? People have hurt me, you know, I'm carrying some emotional pain in my life. Or, you know, I've recently gone through a divorce or my business failed or, um, you know, just life so far hasn't turned out like I dreamed it when I was a little boy or a little girl. And I found myself listening to Ed's show and you're here today. And, uh, you know, I'd like to turn the page and begin again from where I am. What would you say to that person?
59:07 Speaker 02 Very good decision, start anew. No point in life is too late for it.
59:16 Speaker 02 And whatever pain you have had in the past, it has taught you something. It has made you strong, it has made you deep somewhere. Now just shed all that and move on, you know? But there is a beautiful you inside you that's looking for an expression.
59:37 Speaker 02 It has gone through all the bad, but now for it to come out, beautiful life is ahead of you.
59:46 Ed Mylett? I'm so grateful that you came this far today. I've enjoyed it so much, so much.
59:54 Ed Mylett? Your description of you is you're a humanitarian, that's one of the things. And now that I've been with you, you are. An ambassador of peace and real, true human values. I am so grateful for you.
1:00:08 Speaker 02 Thank you, Ed.
1:00:09 Ed Mylett? Yeah.
1:00:10 Speaker 02 Lovely. And continue to inspire people as you have been doing. All the best to you.
1:00:15 Ed Mylett? Thank you, all the best to you. I intend to do that. Hey, everybody, one thing. You can go to artofliving.org. You can go to youtube.com/shri, which is S R I, S R I. And you can just Google him and you'll find everything you need. And Notes for the Journey Within is his upcoming book. What an amazing conversation today. Everybody, please share this with anybody that you care about, that you want to have more bliss, success, joy, and abundance in their life. God bless you all. Max out.
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