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11 Jesse & Luke | Friend's secretly-recorded conversation with the accused

The Case Of

Hosted by Stephen Stockwell

28m
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Summary

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This episode covers two days of crucial testimony in the murder trial of police officer Beaumont-Condon, focusing on the evidence given by an unnamed friend of the accused. The witness details a chilling timeline, from a trip to Bali where the accused sought a firearm silencer and a test firing in the Royal National Park, to an alleged confession on the day Jesse Baird and Luke Davies were killed. The discussion also examines secretly recorded prison calls and a meeting where the accused attempted to alter the witness's memory, alongside a rigorous cross-examination by defense counsel challenging the witness's credibility and potential media influence.

  • The unnamed witness testified that the accused confessed to the murders and asked for help cleaning up on the day the victims died. 2:26
  • Defense counsel John Stratton thoroughly cross-examined the witness, suggesting his testimony was conflated with recent media coverage. 19:50
  • Secretly recorded jail conversations revealed the accused attempting to convince his friend that he misheard previous statements. 15:27

Chapters

  1. 0:00
    Episode Introduction and Context

    Stephen Stockwell opens the episode, setting the scene of the case and warning about suicide content.

  2. 0:45
    Background of the Shooting Incident

    Details of Jessie and Luke’s shooting and initial CCTV evidence are presented.

  3. 1:26
    Witness Introduction and Testimony Overview

    Jamie McKinnell is introduced and the friend’s testimony about Bowlemar Condon’s alleged confession is summarized.

  4. 2:18
    Bali Trip and Pre‑Shooting Activities

    The friend recounts the Bali trip, including the search for a silencer and the surfboard bag purchase.

  5. 7:25
    Royal National Park Test Firing

    The friend describes the test firing of Condon’s police gun in the park and the subsequent instructions to conceal it.

  6. 8:00
    Case Timeline and Jury Update

    Jamie provides an update on the trial’s progress, estimated remaining time, and jury status.

  7. 18:25
    Cross‑Examination of the Witness

    Condon's barrister John Stratton challenges the witness’s statements and memory, probing inconsistencies.

  8. 23:13
    Listener Questions and Community Engagement

    The host addresses emails from listeners, clarifying details about locations and forensic findings.

  9. 24:11
    Elizabeth Kennedy’s Evidence and Media Interaction

    The episode discusses Elizabeth Kennedy’s testimony, her interactions with Condon, and the impact of media coverage on witnesses.

  10. 28:25
    Episode Closing and Production Notes

    Final remarks, gratitude to listeners, and production credits are given before the episode ends.

Highlights

  • 1:38

    A Friend's Crucial Testimonystory

    The episode opens by introducing an unnamed witness whose testimony spans two days, detailing an alleged confession and requests for help after the murders of Jesse Baird and Luke Davies.

  • 5:09

    Bali Trip and Silencer Searchstory

    The witness recounts a trip to Bali with the accused, during which the accused searched for a gun silencer under the guise of going hunting.

  • 5:09

    Royal National Park Test Firingstory

    The witness describes being taken to a remote area of the Royal National Park, where the accused test-fired his service Glock while testing sound levels with a paper bag.

  • 7:06

    Purchasing Surfboard Bagsstory

    Evidence shows the accused and the witness shopping for surfboard bags two days before the killings, with the accused measuring a bag against the friend.

  • 7:06

    Confession and Oscar Performancestory

    The witness details how the accused confessed to the killings in a hire car, later calling it an 'Oscar performance' and claiming he was joking.

  • 14:21

    Secret Prison Recordingsinsight

    The jury heard a secretly recorded, fifty-minute conversation in jail where the accused tries to rewrite the narrative of his mental health struggles and what was actually said during the confession.

  • 19:50

    Intense Defense Cross-Examinationdebate

    Barrister John Stratton aggressively cross-examines the witness, arguing that his police statement was influenced by listening to a true crime podcast and news media.

Quotes

  • “He kept that side hidden from the world, until one day.”
    Unnamed speaker · 0:12
  • “I did it because it was the right thing to do.”
    Unnamed speaker · 19:16
  • “He told the court that he was in shock when he saw this happen.”
    Unnamed speaker · 7:33
  • “The jury has also been played secretly recorded jail calls between the accused and this friend.”
    Unnamed speaker · 3:15
  • ABC Listen 28:03–28:15
  • ABC Audio Studios 28:25–28:40

About this episode

A friend of Beau Lamarre-Condon has told the court the accused asked for help moving Jesse and Luke's bodies and disposing of their clothing. In this episode Jamie McKinnell explains the contact this friend had with the accused murderer in the days after the shooting, as well as during a secretly recorded prison visit. If you have any questions you'd like Jamie and Stocky to answer in future episodes, please email [email protected] mailto:[email protected]. Family and domestic violence support: If you need help, contact 1800 Respect https://1800respect.org.au/ national helpline on 1800 737 732. The Case Of is the follow-up to the hit podcast Mushroom Case Daily, and all episodes of that show will remain available in the back catalogue of The Case Of.

Transcript

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Topics

  • Bali
  • Royal National Park
  • Sydney
  • Sutherlandshire
  • Bungonia
  • Paddington
  • ABC News
  • Penang Pen
  • Cambodia
  • Cronulla

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