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Selects: Flagpole Sitting: A Real Fad

Stuff You Should Know

Hosted by Josh Clark

50m
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This episode explores the bizarre, enduring history of flagpole sitting and other endurance fads in 1920s America. The hosts trace the phenomenon back to Alvin Shipwreck Kelly, an orphan turned stuntman who launched the craze in 1924 by sitting atop a flagpole in Hollywood for over 13 hours. What started as a quirky publicity stunt evolved into a massive cultural fad, with competitors enduring weeks or months on poles, alongside simultaneous dance marathons that pushed human limits during the Great Depression. The discussion details the ingenious and grueling tactics sitters used to survive, such as drilling holes in poles to grab onto while sleeping and using rope systems for food and waste. Ultimately, the hosts examine how these absurd feats reflect a fundamental human desire for celebrity and a much-needed break from cold, cerebral reality.

  • Alvin Shipwreck Kelly is widely credited as patient zero of the flagpole sitting craze, starting the trend in January 1924 as a movie promotion. 8:32
  • Flagpole sitters devised clever survival methods, including drilling holes into the pole to wedge their thumbs into for waking up while sleeping. 34:23
  • The longest flagpole sit on record reached an astonishing 439 days, achieved by H. David Werder to protest gas prices. 54:19
  • Dance marathons emerged around the same time, growing increasingly grueling during the Great Depression as desperate participants sought food, shelter, and prize money. 23:41

Chapters

  1. 0:00
    Podcast Intro and Host Greeting

    The episode opens with the iHeart Radio branding and a brief host introduction before segueing into the main topic.

  2. 1:17
    Episode Theme Announcement

    The hosts announce the episode’s focus on the flagpole sitting fad, setting the stage for the historical exploration.

  3. 2:22
    Hosts Introduce Show

    Josh and Chuck welcome listeners to Stuff You Should Know and introduce themselves and the episode’s premise.

  4. 5:50
    Flagpole Sitting Fad Intro

    The conversation pivots to the flagpole sitting fad, linking it to the song “Flagpole Sitta” and the episode’s title.

  5. 8:03
    Origins of Flagpole Sitting

    The hosts delve into the 1920s origins of flagpole sitting, identifying Alvin Shipwreck Kelly as the first known participant.

  6. 9:33
    Defining Flagpole Sitting

    A concise definition of flagpole sitting is given, explaining the basic premise of the fad.

  7. 11:39
    Shipwreck Kelly Biography

    The hosts explore Shipwreck Kelly’s colorful life, career, and the myths surrounding his flagpole stunts.

  8. 15:06
    Flagpole Sitting Goes Viral

    Discussion of how the fad spread across America, fueled by media coverage and the public’s appetite for record‑breaking stunts.

  9. 53:43
    Record-Breaking Flagpole Sitting History

    The hosts recount the longest flagpole sitting records, highlighting Kenneth Gedge and H. David Werder's impressive durations.

  10. 54:47
    Motivations Behind Flagpole Protests

    Discussion shifts to why individuals, such as the 1980s protester, chose flagpole sitting as a form of activism.

  11. 55:24
    Comparing Sitting and Standing Stunts

    The hosts compare the physical challenges of flagpole sitting versus standing, referencing David Blaine's 35‑hour pole stunt.

Highlights

  • 8:32

    Patient Zero of Flagpole Sittingstory

    Alvin Shipwreck Kelly kicked off a national fad in January 1924 by climbing a flagpole in Hollywood to promote a movie and sitting there for over 13 hours.

  • 14:14

    Boxer Adrift and Ready to Sinkinsight

    Alvin Shipwreck Kelly earned his famous nickname not from surviving shipwrecks, but from his struggling boxing career where reporters noted he was always adrift.

  • 20:37

    Alma Cummings Kicks Off Marathonsstory

    A 32-year-old dance instructor named Alma Cummings danced for 27 hours straight with six partners in 1923, sparking a nationwide dance marathon craze.

  • 23:41

    Depression Era Enduranceinsight

    During the Great Depression, people entered grueling dance marathons and flagpole sits just to secure food, shelter, and a chance at prize money to avoid foreclosure.

  • 34:23

    Sleeping on a Flagpolestrategy

    Sitters avoided falling off by drilling holes in the pole for their thumbs, which pinched their skin to wake them slightly whenever they began to lean forward.

  • 54:19

    The Ultimate Gas Price Protestdata

    H. David Werder set the ultimate flagpole-sitting record by remaining atop a pole for 439 days between 1982 and 1984 to protest gas prices.

Quotes

  • “People would sit at the top of flagpoles for as long as they could, and it was a part of a weird time in American history.”
    Unnamed speaker · 1:59
  • “Shipwreck Kelly was so named because he survived 32 different shipwrecks at sea, which is where shipwrecks tend to happen.”
    Josh Clark · 12:48
  • “The other criteria is that people have to want to topple that record. And that was very widespread at the time, too, because the 1920s were actually really big into fads.”
    Josh Clark · 15:29
  • “And he said, the men usually asked if he sleeps and how he goes to the bathroom and then women asked if he was lonely, which I find very sweet.”
    Josh Clark · 53:49
  • “He stood atop a 90-foot pole for 35 hours in Bryant Park in New York.”
    Unnamed speaker · 55:33
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About this episode

The 1920s were just absolutely nuts. People got into weird fads really intensely and one of the strangest of all was flagpole sitting. It’s just what it sounds like – sitting on top of a flagpole for as long as you can. One man sat above them all. Learn all about him and many of these wild fads in this classic episode. See omnystudio.com/listener https://omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Topics

  • Flagpole Sitting
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  • New York
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  • New York City

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