#190 - Stef Dag and Gabby Bryan

Stef Dag and Gabby Bryan return to the pod to discuss their new podcast I’ll Go If You Go, peptides, sibling rivalries, friend rivalries, dating guys with criminal records, short kings, confidence imbalances, mixing helplessness with spirituality, and much more. Stef and Gabby help callers including a married man who’s lying to his wife about money he’s spending on figurines, and a woman who’s wondering how long she should wait for the older guy she’s dating to ask to be her boyfriend. Check out Stef Dag and Gabby Bryan’s podcast I’ll Go If You Go: https://www.youtube.com/@IllGoIfYouGoPodcast Follow Stef Dag on social media: https://punchup.live/stefdag https://www.instagram.com/stefdagz https://x.com/stefdagz https://www.youtube.com/@stefdagcomedy https://www.tiktok.com/@stefdag stefdag.substack.com Follow Gabby Bryan on social media: https://punchup.live/gabbybryan https://www.instagram.com/gabbyisbryan https://www.youtube.com/@gabbyisbryan https://www.tiktok.com/@gabbyisbryan https://x.com/gabbyisbryan 🙏 Thanks to our sponsors! Visible - https://www.visible.com/ SWITCH NOW! Twisted Tea - https://www.twistedtea.com/locations Keep It Twisted!! Download Cash App Today: https://capl.onelink.me/vFut/wyx330el #CashAppPod Cash App is a financial services platform, not a bank. Banking services provided by Cash App’s bank partner(s). Prepaid debit cards issued by Sutton Bank, Member FDIC. Cash App Visa® Debit Flex Cards issued by Sutton Bank, Member FDIC, and The Bancorp Bank, N. A., pursuant to a license from Visa U. S. A. Inc. See terms and conditions for the Sutton prepaid card, Sutton debit flex card, and Bancorp debit flex card. Cash App Green features, Savings, Direct deposit, Round ups, Overdraft coverage and Discounts provided by Cash App, a Block, Inc. brand. Visit cash.app/legal/podcast for full disclosures. ☎️ Want to be a part of the show? Call 904-800-STAV and leave a voicemail to get advice! 🎟️ See Stavvy live on the Dreamboat Tour 🛥️💕!!! https://stavvy.biz/ for tickets ‼️ Bonus episodes every week! Unlock exclusive, Patreon-only episodes at https://www.patreon.com/stavvysworld

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• 0:00Speaker 00

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• 0:25Stavros Halkias?

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• 0:44Stavros Halkias?

  Hoppa! Welcome, everybody, to Stavi's World. 904-800-STOP. Call us on the Stavi's World hotline, brought to you by our pals at Visible, and we'll solve all your problems. Now, let me change my clothing real fast and introduce our guests. Hey, maybe we'll play the theme music again.

• 1:04Stavros Halkias?

  Hoppa! Welcome, everybody, to Stavi's World. 904-800-STOP. Call in, we'll solve all your problems. We're back in the new studio, returning to the couch. We have Gabby Bryant and Steph Dag. How are we doing, gals?

• 1:18Speaker 02

  Hello.

• 1:19Speaker 03

  Awesome.

• 1:19Stavros Halkias?

  Good?

• 1:20Speaker 03

  Really good.

• 1:21Stavros Halkias?

  Really good? I like that. You're both glowing. You seem like you're having a great time.

• 1:25Speaker 02

  Yeah, we both are kind of... Are you tan or are you tan?

• 1:28Stavros Halkias?

  You're not tan. Let me stop you right there, Gabby. You're not tan.

• 1:32Speaker 02

  I'm a little pale. I'm a little pale.

• 1:34Speaker 03

  Am I tan? And you probably got a spray tan the last month, so we've kind of arrived in the center.

• 1:39Speaker 02

  Usually, you're a different color than me because you're a Croatian.

• 1:42Stavros Halkias?

  Right.

• 1:42Speaker 02

  Which is a black.

• 1:43Speaker 03

  A person of color.

• 1:44Speaker 02

  And say it.

• 1:45Speaker 03

  A person of color for the ball pins.

• 1:47Stavros Halkias?

  Right, right, right. To a rich girl from New Jersey, that counts as black.

• 1:52Speaker 02

  I'm her gypsy friend.

• 1:53Stavros Halkias?

  Especially to your parents.

• 1:55Speaker 02

  Everyone is black.

• 1:58Speaker 02

  But I'm so white, so usually you're such a different color than me that now we're sort of meeting in the middle, which makes me feel black.

• 2:03Stavros Halkias?

  You're Benjamin Buttoning.

• 2:04Speaker 02

  And I feel bad.

• 2:05Stavros Halkias?

  You're Benjamin Buttoning. And let me just go ahead, don't, you should not feel that way. That's maybe, maybe the furthest from possibly, and you're just talking pure tone here, right?

• 2:15Speaker 02

  Right.

• 2:16Stavros Halkias?

  I would say red.

• 2:17Speaker 02

  She's the furthest from black?

• 2:18Stavros Halkias?

  I would say pretty red.

• 2:20Speaker 02

  Sort of the opposite side of the color wheel.

• 2:22Stavros Halkias?

  I was saying glowing metaphorically. I was saying it seems like you're in a good place in your life. Yeah.

• 2:27Speaker 02

  So you think we're ugly?

• 2:27Speaker 03

  Pregnant.

• 2:28Stavros Halkias?

  No, no, no, no.

• 2:30Speaker 02

  So you think we're ugly and pregnant? So what are you, when you look at us, what do you see?

• 2:34Stavros Halkias?

  Uh, yeah, I guess if I really had to, yeah, I guess ugly and pregnant is right.

• 2:38Speaker 02

  Great personalities.

• 2:40Speaker 03

  Faces for radio.

• 2:42Stavros Halkias?

  Busted.

• 2:43Speaker 02

  She's like, the cameras are off.

• 2:44Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Two different styles of busted gals.

• 2:51Stavros Halkias?

  If you really gotta know, I was trying to be polite. And give you a compliment.

• 2:56Speaker 02

  But I think you're both ugly.

• 2:59Speaker 03

  I do think you're both ugly.

• 3:01Speaker 02

  It's the truth.

• 3:01Stavros Halkias?

  No, no, I think you have a, you're a fair skinned person who was at the beach yesterday.

• 3:06Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 3:07Stavros Halkias?

  And it didn't seem like you hit the SPF as hard as you should have.

• 3:09Speaker 02

  Right.

• 3:10Stavros Halkias?

  But not in a bad way, right? You know, I think you'll be.

• 3:13Speaker 02

  Someone burnt.

• 3:13Stavros Halkias?

  You're a little burnt, but you're gonna be over it and you're gonna look beautiful tomorrow.

• 3:17Speaker 03

  I think you just have blush on.

• 3:19Speaker 02

  No.

• 3:21Stavros Halkias?

  No, that's kind of sad that she's your best friend and I.

• 3:24Speaker 02

  Well, cause you always have like a rubber rosacea thing as well.

• 3:27Speaker 03

  I do have.

• 3:28Stavros Halkias?

  All right, hell yeah.

• 3:29Speaker 02

  All right.

• 3:30Stavros Halkias?

  Turn them against each, call them ugly, watch them fight. Watch them try and prove who's the less ugly one.

• 3:37Speaker 02

  I get it. I have a pink face and you guys won't shut the fuck up about it.

• 3:43Stavros Halkias?

  That is true. We are two, you're talking to two Eastern Europeans here.

• 3:46Speaker 02

  Yes, and I'm jealous.

• 3:48Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah.

• 3:48Speaker 02

  I'm Polish, isn't that Eastern European?

• 3:50Speaker 03

  But you're a Jew.

• 3:51Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah. Wow, someone really started getting Croatian. Someone really had to prove their Croatian.

• 3:58Speaker 02

  But you're a Jew, so you're actually from nowhere.

• 4:02Speaker 03

  But you're not welcome anywhere, right? You understand that?

• 4:05Stavros Halkias?

  You kind of do have like the DNA type of the people going to Israel and getting sunburnt. You know what I mean? Like Polish Jews are like, we're from here. And then they like are allergic to the pollen and they're just red all the time.

• 4:16Speaker 03

  Yeah, that's exactly.

• 4:17Stavros Halkias?

  You would do really poorly, you know.

• 4:19Speaker 03

  In Israel.

• 4:20Speaker 02

  In Israel.

• 4:20Stavros Halkias?

  Hopefully for multiple reasons. Hopefully for moral as well as suntan reasons.

• 4:25Speaker 02

  I love it here, but it's a little hot.

• 4:27Stavros Halkias?

  Everything else they're doing, great.

• 4:30Speaker 03

  No notes.

• 4:31Stavros Halkias?

  It's just a little hot.

• 4:33Speaker 02

  But I'm a schmuck.

• 4:37Speaker 02

  I did do a fake freckle today. Have you heard of this?

• 4:39Stavros Halkias?

  I like that.

• 4:40Speaker 02

  You like that?

• 4:41Stavros Halkias?

  I'm a fan of freckles and I don't see why those who don't have them naturally can't cosplay a little freckling every once in a while.

• 4:48Speaker 03

  Yeah, what you do is it's like a dark pen and you go like this and you go. I used to do that with Sharpie growing up, as well as wear a fake braces. I would, I would bend my.

• 4:56Stavros Halkias?

  Fake braces?

• 4:57Speaker 03

  Yeah, I would bend my bangles and put them in my teeth. And I always pretended I had a broken arm and stuff.

• 5:02Stavros Halkias?

  Wow, are you jealous of me right now?

• 5:04Speaker 03

  Yeah, I have like a hospital fantasy.

• 5:07Speaker 02

  His culture is not your costume.

• 5:08Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah. Did you have, so you kind of were like your own Gypsy Rose, like you're Gypsy Rose's mom to yourself?

• 5:14Speaker 03

  I was just gypsy. First of all, my culture is gypsy.

• 5:17Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 5:19Speaker 02

  You do have kind of a schizophrenic theme throughout your life. Like in college, you did tell everyone your name was Dakota.

• 5:25Speaker 03

  I changed my name to Dakota, yeah.

• 5:27Stavros Halkias?

  And this is before Dakota Johnson, right?

• 5:28Speaker 03

  This was before Dakota, this was Dakota Fanning's time.

• 5:30Stavros Halkias?

  Oh, Dakota Fanning.

• 5:31Speaker 02

  Shout out.

• 5:32Stavros Halkias?

  Shout out to Dakota.

• 5:33Speaker 03

  I told everyone in school I had stomach cancer as well.

• 5:36Speaker 02

  What?

• 5:36Stavros Halkias?

  Whoa, you love detention.

• 5:41Speaker 02

  No, this is schizophrenia.

• 5:43Stavros Halkias?

  That's like the most fatal one. You need to make up one that you could recover from.

• 5:48Speaker 03

  I'm a miracle. I'm a walking miracle.

• 5:51Stavros Halkias?

  You couldn't have said melanoma, put a band-aid on?

• 5:53Speaker 02

  I have prostate cancer.

• 5:56Stavros Halkias?

  Okay, interesting. Hold on, we're gonna take these one at a time.

• 5:59Speaker 03

  Right.

• 6:00Stavros Halkias?

  Grade school braces, did you want them? Were you jealous of those with braces?

• 6:04Speaker 03

  Yeah, I just like wanted something wrong with me.

• 6:06Stavros Halkias?

  Oh, interesting.

• 6:07Speaker 03

  You know what I mean? Like, I just like wanted something to be wrong with me. So then I developed an eating disorder, because that one I could be in control of.

• 6:13Stavros Halkias?

  Right, right, right, right.

• 6:15Speaker 02

  Well, it's one of the easiest things you could develop.

• 6:16Speaker 03

  It's easy, it's not hard. Well, it takes a little bit to get into it.

• 6:20Speaker 02

  How to?

• 6:21Speaker 03

  You gotta figure out, make yourself throw up and stuff.

• 6:24Stavros Halkias?

  See, as a little fat kid who loved food so much, but felt like everyone was mad at me for being fat.

• 6:30Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 6:30Stavros Halkias?

  I tried, I literally tried to like throw up.

• 6:33Speaker 03

  It's hard.

• 6:34Stavros Halkias?

  And I was like, this is fucking hard, I'm just gonna keep eating.

• 6:35Speaker 03

  It's hard, your blood vessels pop and your face.

• 6:38Stavros Halkias?

  But when I heard about it, I was like, loophole, this is awesome.

• 6:42Speaker 03

  It's kind of the perfect thing.

• 6:43Speaker 02

  Yeah, because you get to eat.

• 6:44Stavros Halkias?

  But then it's really not, it's really bad for you, and I hope you didn't do it that long.

• 6:48Speaker 03

  No, it was a decade, it was a decade.

• 6:50Stavros Halkias?

  A decade, tough.

• 6:51Speaker 03

  But I didn't make me skinny.

• 6:54Speaker 02

  What did it do?

• 6:54Stavros Halkias?

  Oh, no!

• 6:55Speaker 03

  Here's the thing, here's the thing about bulimia and doing cocaine, neither made me skinny.

• 7:00Speaker 02

  What, are you kidding me?

• 7:01Speaker 03

  No, not for me. When I was doing cocaine, I was like the fattest I've ever been. I was living in Argentina, it was $7 a bag, I was chubby.

• 7:11Stavros Halkias?

  Okay, well, I think you might have gotten some stepped on stuff, maybe.

• 7:15Speaker 02

  Stepped on stuff?

• 7:16Speaker 03

  It was pretty good.

• 7:17Stavros Halkias?

  So you're not, and you're what, studying abroad in Argentina?

• 7:20Speaker 03

  I was studying abroad in Argentina.

• 7:21Stavros Halkias?

  Okay, hell yeah.

• 7:22Speaker 03

  Yeah. Getting fat.

• 7:24Stavros Halkias?

  Getting fat off what, the local cuisine?

• 7:26Speaker 03

  A steak, I suppose.

• 7:28Speaker 02

  Well, that's probably not it.

• 7:30Speaker 03

  I don't know, I was drinking a lot.

• 7:32Speaker 02

  Right.

• 7:32Speaker 03

  I was fully drinking a bottle of wine a day.

• 7:35Speaker 02

  It was that, that's a steak.

• 7:37Stavros Halkias?

  Were you like sick as a really little kid and it felt awesome to like get your mom to care for you, so you were like, I want this?

• 7:43Speaker 03

  Well, I think I, I think I wanted them to care for me. Like, I would purposely be bulimic so close to my mom's room, be like, ugh! And then come out and be like, that was crazy! And my mom was like, goodnight!

• 7:57Stavros Halkias?

  Keep it down next time.

• 7:59Speaker 03

  Keep it down.

• 8:00Speaker 02

  Very loud in the bathroom, it's not, it's not good.

• 8:04Stavros Halkias?

  I'm trying to watch SVU in here.

• 8:07Speaker 02

  I need to joke in the bathroom, please leave the bathroom so I could do this.

• 8:13Speaker 02

  It's kind of your culture.

• 8:14Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 8:15Stavros Halkias?

  Never caught, never did a parent catch on?

• 8:17Speaker 03

  No, and then, no, and then eventually someone told my mom and then she like went on like a PR campaign and told all her friends, like, I just found out that my daughters believe me, like, tried to get attention for it.

• 8:26Stavros Halkias?

  Wow, she tried to take it?

• 8:28Speaker 03

  I would try to get attention. They're like, holding a gun to each other, like.

• 8:33Speaker 02

  It's like Russian nesting.

• 8:34Speaker 03

  Yeah, I was like, what the hell?

• 8:36Stavros Halkias?

  That's so true. Foreign moms, like, that's a type of foreign mom that like cry about how hard it is for them.

• 8:41Speaker 03

  Yeah, and then my dad, who's a nutcase and was a drug addict at the time, took me out to dinner and he was like, so I tried that, uh, bulimic thing and I was like, what?

• 8:51Stavros Halkias?

  Your dad's trying to relate to you?

• 8:52Speaker 03

  He was like, he was like, I was brushing my teeth and I was like, I ate a lot today and I kinda, and he's like, pretty good.

• 8:58Stavros Halkias?

  No way.

• 8:59Speaker 02

  No way.

• 9:01Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 9:01Stavros Halkias?

  You started a trend.

• 9:03Speaker 03

  I started a trend.

• 9:04Stavros Halkias?

  You just did no chance. That's fucking, were they together at the time?

• 9:07Speaker 03

  Yeah, I mean.

• 9:08Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 9:09Speaker 03

  But legally speaking.

• 9:10Stavros Halkias?

  I got you, I got you.

• 9:11Speaker 03

  Legally speaking, yeah.

• 9:12Stavros Halkias?

  Interesting, alright, hmm.

• 9:14Speaker 03

  So that was super vulnerable.

• 9:16Stavros Halkias?

  Right on top.

• 9:19Speaker 02

  Have you grown up recently?

• 9:21Speaker 03

  No, I don't, I can't, no, I can't do it anymore.

• 9:23Stavros Halkias?

  It is, it is fucking insane, the number of girls who like just grow up with a, like, a specific, like, whether it's anorexia or bulimia, and it's like how bad that fucks your.

• 9:33Speaker 03

  I don't know a single one who hasn't had that.

• 9:36Stavros Halkias?

  None, none for you?

• 9:37Speaker 03

  And now it feels like I'm chopping it in your face.

• 9:39Stavros Halkias?

  No, no, it's okay.

• 9:40Speaker 03

  And I'm gonna.

• 9:40Speaker 02

  I raised a hand and then I bailed. I'm like this.

• 9:44Stavros Halkias?

  Oh, I had it?

• 9:45Speaker 03

  Gabby, you've had an eating disorder. I've been friends with you for 10 years.

• 9:49Speaker 02

  Yeah, but later and later.

• 9:50Speaker 03

  You were like vegan, you were like vegan, you were one of those eating disorders.

• 9:54Stavros Halkias?

  Oh, yeah.

• 9:54Speaker 02

  No, I've starved myself in a playful way in adulthood.

• 9:59Stavros Halkias?

  No, you, you really for sure had one.

• 10:02Speaker 02

  But in high school, no.

• 10:03Stavros Halkias?

  In high school, no.

• 10:04Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 10:05Speaker 02

  In high school, I was actually too skinny under, malnourished.

• 10:08Speaker 03

  Shut the fuck up.

• 10:10Speaker 02

  And my dad would make me drink banana cream muscle milks several a day to sort of gain weight.

• 10:16Stavros Halkias?

  Oh, wow.

• 10:16Speaker 02

  And then I would almost puke up the banana cream muscle milk.

• 10:18Speaker 03

  I'm so jealous.

• 10:20Stavros Halkias?

  You wanted that, that's like, she's getting attention for being skinny?

• 10:23Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 10:24Stavros Halkias?

  It's sort of like your dream as a child.

• 10:28Speaker 03

  And she was sickly and Jewish.

• 10:29Speaker 02

  Like, people were worried about me because I looked too good.

• 10:32Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah.

• 10:33Speaker 03

  I wanted like someone to be worried about me.

• 10:35Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah.

• 10:36Speaker 03

  You know?

• 10:36Stavros Halkias?

  Well, that'll happen with a drug addict then of Eastern European moms.

• 10:39Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 10:40Stavros Halkias?

  Eastern European moms are either the most loving. I'm sorry, I missed that. What'd you say?

• 10:44Speaker 03

  I said, I'm worried now, if that helps.

• 10:45Stavros Halkias?

  Oh, yeah, yeah. Just now? You've known her a decade?

• 10:47Speaker 03

  No, no, she's been worried.

• 10:51Stavros Halkias?

  Okay, because in my experience, in my experience with Eastern European moms, they definitely, it's the extremes.

• 10:57Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 10:58Stavros Halkias?

  Where you have the most loving, you can do nothing wrong. Or you have the sternest, like, I went through World War II or communism or whatever.

• 11:08Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 11:08Stavros Halkias?

  And all my, my job is to make you survive, but I don't even, I don't really think of love in a real, in, in any real way.

• 11:16Speaker 03

  My mom is very warm, actually.

• 11:17Stavros Halkias?

  Okay.

• 11:18Speaker 03

  My brother can do no wrong. My mom would find like

• 11:21Stavros Halkias?

  I see.

• 11:21Speaker 03

  weed in my brother's bed or like alcohol under his bed and be like, I wonder who put that there. And then like, we found, yeah, we found like a condom in one of his books once and she was like, that is such a weird place for that to be found. And then I would like have a stain in my bed and she'd be like, this is heroin stain.

• 11:42Speaker 03

  She was so crazy.

• 11:44Speaker 02

  Wait, was he condom in a book?

• 11:45Speaker 03

  She would, yeah, he, he carved out a hole in a book and put a condom in it.

• 11:49Speaker 02

  That's awesome. That's so Nancy Drew.

• 11:50Stavros Halkias?

  That's a, that seems like

• 11:52Speaker 03

  And by the way, I had Molly in my underwear drawer.

• 11:57Stavros Halkias?

  Was he fucking though? Because that feels to me like a plan of someone, like that was something when you're like, oh, I better, I better have my secret condom just in case I get pussy.

• 12:06Speaker 03

  He was fucking, unfortunately, my friends, yeah.

• 12:08Speaker 02

  Oh, really?

• 12:11Speaker 02

  Oh, my God. This is a disaster.

• 12:13Speaker 03

  My whole life was a disaster.

• 12:16Speaker 02

  Every part of this is a disaster.

• 12:18Speaker 03

  We, yeah. I have a butterfly tattoo. I'm not well adjusted.

• 12:25Stavros Halkias?

  Oh, man.

• 12:26Speaker 02

  You was fucking your friends?

• 12:27Speaker 03

  Yeah. He's fucked two of my friends.

• 12:30Stavros Halkias?

  He's older?

• 12:31Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 12:31Stavros Halkias?

  Okay, that's, if he was younger, he'd be cool.

• 12:34Speaker 03

  Right.

• 12:34Stavros Halkias?

  Fucking your older sister's friends when you're younger is cool.

• 12:37Speaker 03

  He didn't fuck them until later, honestly, until college. But he was, he was dating the most popular girl in school.

• 12:43Stavros Halkias?

  Wow.

• 12:43Speaker 02

  He was?

• 12:44Speaker 03

  I know, it's funny, because my brother's very nerdy and like-

• 12:46Stavros Halkias?

  Interesting.

• 12:47Speaker 02

  And tiny.

• 12:47Speaker 03

  And tiny, he's a tiny boy.

• 12:49Speaker 02

  He's a little tiny.

• 12:49Speaker 03

  He's a five foot six boy.

• 12:51Stavros Halkias?

  Wow, so he's pretty tall.

• 12:54Stavros Halkias?

  So he's like-

• 12:55Speaker 03

  As far as dwarfs go-

• 12:56Stavros Halkias?

  Pretty much like average to kind of above average height.

• 12:58Speaker 02

  He's actually huge.

• 13:01Speaker 02

  Don't worry about it, he's huge.

• 13:02Stavros Halkias?

  And he's barely short, is what I'm hearing.

• 13:06Speaker 02

  No, he's completely a full grown man.

• 13:10Stavros Halkias?

  Right, so he was like the starting power forward of the basketball team?

• 13:13Speaker 02

  Quarterback, quarterback for the quarterback.

• 13:15Stavros Halkias?

  I do respect a five six, a five six guy, like, getting pussy, that's kind of awesome.

• 13:21Speaker 03

  I think the short guys are getting a lot of pussy.

• 13:23Speaker 02

  I think they're getting more.

• 13:24Speaker 03

  They're getting more pussy.

• 13:25Stavros Halkias?

  No, let's, let's scout for a second.

• 13:27Speaker 03

  They're getting pity pussy, they're getting pity pussy.

• 13:28Stavros Halkias?

  They're getting pity, no.

• 13:30Speaker 03

  Pity pussy, they get regular pussy and pity pussy.

• 13:32Stavros Halkias?

  No, no, no, no.

• 13:33Speaker 02

  You think pity pussy?

• 13:34Speaker 03

  I mean-

• 13:35Stavros Halkias?

  From a regular, let me, let me-

• 13:36Speaker 03

  I've been fucking short guys my whole life.

• 13:38Stavros Halkias?

  But how short?

• 13:39Speaker 03

  Right. Not, not shorter than me.

• 13:42Stavros Halkias?

  How tall are you?

• 13:44Speaker 03

  I'm like five eight.

• 13:45Stavros Halkias?

  Okay.

• 13:46Speaker 03

  I fucked a short, I was dating a short guy in college that was like five seven, like, shorter than me.

• 13:51Stavros Halkias?

  Okay, again.

• 13:51Speaker 03

  And they fuck good.

• 13:54Stavros Halkias?

  We're just gonna, for the purposes of conversation, five seven is tall.

• 13:57Speaker 03

  Five seven's tall.

• 13:57Stavros Halkias?

  Five six, short.

• 14:01Stavros Halkias?

  That's sort of the, that's kind of the dividing line that we all societally agree on.

• 14:06Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 14:07Speaker 02

  I couldn't disagree more.

• 14:10Speaker 02

  I think that's tiny as hell.

• 14:13Stavros Halkias?

  Ah, interesting, why don't you fucking chug some banana milk, you fucking dumb bitch?

• 14:20Speaker 02

  Hey, get this bitch a banana milk, just shut up.

• 14:23Stavros Halkias?

  Somebody get her a banana milk to quiet her down. Eldis, get, get the thick milks we give women who are talking too much in this studio.

• 14:32Speaker 03

  Get her some thick milk.

• 14:33Stavros Halkias?

  Hey, here's a, you wanna have this, it's just like-

• 14:37Stavros Halkias?

  It's just pure honey, your mouth is stuck, it's like a Venus flytrap for the rest of the episode. Gabby, are you ready to say that, um, five seven is tall? Give her the antidote, Eldis.

• 14:50Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah. Eldis hit you with a blow dart?

• 14:54Speaker 02

  I'm sorry, short kings, short kings.

• 14:57Speaker 02

  You're royal to me, you're royal.

• 14:58Stavros Halkias?

  That's right, that's more like it. No, I really, I've said this before, but I hilariously, my entire life, truly did not know I was short.

• 15:07Speaker 03

  How short, how tall are you?

• 15:08Stavros Halkias?

  I'm 5'7".

• 15:09Speaker 03

  Wait, you are?

• 15:11Stavros Halkias?

  I'm, I am 5'8", but I think there's power in line, in going down one inch.

• 15:14Speaker 03

  Wait, I think you're 5'9".

• 15:17Stavros Halkias?

  I, I think that's, like, I've, my whole life is like, uh, is like tricking people into thinking everything is a little better than it is with personality.

• 15:24Speaker 03

  Right, and that's true.

• 15:25Stavros Halkias?

  I put the multiplier on, and for, to some people, it really works, you know?

• 15:29Speaker 03

  Yeah, interesting.

• 15:30Stavros Halkias?

  But, my whole, because, because, like, me and Eldis have grown up together, and we were the same height in kindergarten, and my doctor was like, "You're gonna be tall as fuck." Like, in kindergarten, my doctor's like, "You're gonna be so tall." And I think that's the last time I, I like, thought about someone saying I was tall or not.

• 15:47Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 15:47Stavros Halkias?

  And my entire, like, growing up, I was like, "I'm pretty tall." Like, I'm not the tallest guy, but I'm not short.

• 15:53Speaker 03

  I'm a good size.

• 15:54Stavros Halkias?

  Like, in my head, I'm like, I'm fucking, I also, you know, I don't know.

• 15:57Speaker 03

  If it helps, I've never considered you as short.

• 15:59Stavros Halkias?

  Nobody, I mean, I appreciate that.

• 16:01Speaker 02

  I also agree with that. I really pay attention.

• 16:03Speaker 03

  I've never once considered your height, and even was like, "You're, you must be 5'10".

• 16:08Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, I appreciate that.

• 16:09Speaker 03

  Real shape shifter vibe.

• 16:10Stavros Halkias?

  Thank you for adding another inch the second time.

• 16:12Speaker 03

  Of course. You're gonna be 6'5" by then.

• 16:15Stavros Halkias?

  Someone's learning, Gabby.

• 16:17Speaker 02

  Sorry, can I?

• 16:18Stavros Halkias?

  The turn, two friends against this, just turned into like, bullying you guys?

• 16:24Speaker 03

  And Steph, you're looking mighty hot right now. Gabby?

• 16:28Speaker 02

  Next to that.

• 16:29Speaker 03

  That burns really coming through.

• 16:31Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah. Gabby, do you need some aloe vera? It seems to be getting worse by the moment.

• 16:37Speaker 02

  Feels like Israel in here.

• 16:41Stavros Halkias?

  I feel like I'm in Tel Aviv. Damn, yeah, no, I do think, there was just like, I really think, and I just, my whole life, even like, I made the middle school basketball team, so I'm like, "Basketball team's tall."

• 16:53Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 16:54Stavros Halkias?

  And then I went to high school, and it was like, "You could not get cut faster than I got cut at tryouts for the basketball team." Cause it's a, it's, it's Baltimore City Public Schools, kids are doing like, windmill dunks. Like, we literally had a kid who was 6'10" on our team.

• 17:09Speaker 03

  And what was his race?

• 17:10Stavros Halkias?

  Uh, uh, he was, I believe, he was Filipino?

• 17:19Speaker 02

  Wait, did you just walk in and they were like, no?

• 17:21Stavros Halkias?

  It was literally like, alright, everybody line up, let's do a sprint, back and forth. And then they blew the whistle and they're like, you, you, you, you, gone. And it was like me, a kid with like, a cross-eyed kid, a kid with like braces on his knees. And it was like, well, I guess I'll try wrestling.

• 17:37Speaker 02

  Something a little closer to the ground.

• 17:41Speaker 03

  Wait, I had the opposite. I did gymnastics and I was so tall and they would make us, they would make us vault and then weigh us afterwards.

• 17:48Stavros Halkias?

  Oh my god.

• 17:52Stavros Halkias?

  Wonder what happened there?

• 17:53Speaker 03

  And they were, and they would weigh us and then they would be like.

• 17:56Stavros Halkias?

  Weigh you?

• 17:56Speaker 03

  Yeah, they would weigh us.

• 17:57Stavros Halkias?

  How old were you?

• 17:58Speaker 03

  This is, I did gymnastics. I was in the Junior Olympics. I did gymnastics for a really long time. And they would call, yeah, they would call over the other coaches when I would go and they'd be like, look how big this girl is.

• 18:07Stavros Halkias?

  Holy shit.

• 18:08Speaker 03

  Cause I was, I was skinny. Like you look back at photos, I was like a skinny, tall girl.

• 18:12Speaker 02

  You were a child.

• 18:13Speaker 03

  I was a child.

• 18:13Stavros Halkias?

  You were a child who should not have been weighed by adults that were supposed to help them grow in a skill.

• 18:18Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 18:19Speaker 02

  You want a scale, they're like, Jesus Christ. Come look at this.

• 18:26Stavros Halkias?

  They had a, they had a button if you're over like 85 pounds, the hog button sounds.

• 18:33Stavros Halkias?

  That's so fu- Jesus Christ.

• 18:35Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 18:35Stavros Halkias?

  Weighing kids for gymnastics?

• 18:37Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 18:38Stavros Halkias?

  What was your best event?

• 18:41Speaker 02

  I thought you were gonna be like, so how much did you weigh?

• 18:45Stavros Halkias?

  So what was your sickest weighing?

• 18:48Stavros Halkias?

  No, what was the like, your, no, you're being modest if you were in the Junior Olympics, you were good.

• 18:52Speaker 03

  I was good at vault and floor and I sucked at everything else.

• 18:54Stavros Halkias?

  Okay.

• 18:54Speaker 03

  I was the worst on the team.

• 18:55Stavros Halkias?

  Vault, oh, vault, yeah, that's pretty.

• 18:57Speaker 02

  And floor?

• 18:58Speaker 03

  And floor. My floor, I did this, no, no, no, there's no ribbon.

• 19:02Speaker 02

  It's off the circuit.

• 19:03Stavros Halkias?

  There's a ribbon?

• 19:04Speaker 03

  There's no ribbon. You're running around tumbling and dancing.

• 19:08Stavros Halkias?

  Come on, there's a fucking ribbon. I'll just look up ribbon Olympics.

• 19:11Speaker 03

  No, no, that is a different sport.

• 19:15Speaker 02

  Ribbon dancing.

• 19:16Speaker 03

  Ribbon dancing, I'd dance basically. Yeah, I didn't do that. But my song was the Star Wars theme song, cause I was cool.

• 19:21Stavros Halkias?

  Oh, hell yeah. The, the like, New Hope? The good one. You weren't evil, you didn't do the Sith one.

• 19:28Speaker 03

  Right. Yeah.

• 19:31Stavros Halkias?

  That would've been fucking cool, a little goth.

• 19:33Speaker 03

  That, that was, that was before and after they weighed me.

• 19:35Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 19:36Speaker 03

  I was coming out like bum, bum, bum.

• 19:40Stavros Halkias?

  That's fucking insane. And who were the, what are the coaches, are they like mean ladies? Are they mean Eastern European? Cause I feel like Eastern European-

• 19:46Speaker 03

  They're mean ladies. And then there's the boys coach who would like, who would come and make us condition with the boys and he was really fucking scary. It was intense. It was like five times a week too.

• 19:55Stavros Halkias?

  Holy shit.

• 19:56Speaker 02

  Oh my god.

• 19:56Speaker 03

  Yeah, it was really, really intense.

• 19:57Stavros Halkias?

  Where was this?

• 19:57Speaker 03

  In New Jersey.

• 19:58Stavros Halkias?

  Jersey. Oh, both Jersey gals.

• 20:00Speaker 03

  No, no, no, this was like, uh-

• 20:02Stavros Halkias?

  After school?

• 20:03Speaker 03

  Like all-star team or whatever. I don't know.

• 20:04Stavros Halkias?

  Hell yeah.

• 20:05Speaker 03

  And then I did, and then I did cheerleading because I like broke my back. And that was also crazy.

• 20:10Stavros Halkias?

  What'd you break? I have a very, I have a fucked up back right now.

• 20:12Speaker 03

  I had, uh, two herniated discs.

• 20:14Stavros Halkias?

  Damn, dog.

• 20:15Speaker 02

  At, at what age?

• 20:16Speaker 03

  This was, uh, middle of high school. And then I, yeah, and then I did cheerleading.

• 20:21Stavros Halkias?

  When, when was the first good year of your life? Were you like 28?

• 20:28Speaker 03

  Honestly, COVID, like, 2020.

• 20:32Stavros Halkias?

  And Gabby, you're like-

• 20:33Speaker 03

  No one can hurt me in here.

• 20:37Stavros Halkias?

  You're, you're like, uh, paragliding with Bon Jovi.

• 20:41Stavros Halkias?

  You're on a horse. You're like, hey dad, look at me.

• 20:44Speaker 03

  Look how thin I look. Naturally. Naturally, of course. Naturally, of course. Could someone get me, can I, can a servant get me a banana milk?

• 20:58Stavros Halkias?

  Oh my god, that's fucking wild.

• 21:00Speaker 03

  I'm tied up in a basement. They're still weighing me. Too heavy.

• 21:06Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah. They just, for, for lunch, for lunch, they would just like wave a sandwich below your nose. They're like, alright, three sniffs, girls. And then back hit the floor again.

• 21:14Speaker 03

  Smelling is eating, smelling is eating.

• 21:16Stavros Halkias?

  That's so fucking crazy. I mean, it seems like they're not doing that shit anymore. It seems like now you can be a little-

• 21:21Speaker 03

  To me, or just to general?

• 21:23Stavros Halkias?

  In general, yeah.

• 21:24Speaker 03

  To girls? Well, they had that, um, they had that gymnastics doctor who was raping the girls.

• 21:28Stavros Halkias?

  Sure, that, that's-

• 21:29Speaker 02

  I'm sure that's still happening.

• 21:31Speaker 03

  That's surely-

• 21:32Stavros Halkias?

  Nazir, Dr. Larry-

• 21:33Speaker 03

  Larry Nassar.

• 21:34Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, Nassar. Yeah, a real piece of shit. For the record, we are staunchly opposed to Larry Nassar. I hope, I do hope some bad stuff is happening to him.

• 21:44Speaker 03

  I hope he gets hit by?

• 21:46Speaker 02

  A bus.

• 21:46Speaker 03

  A bus. He's on my hit list.

• 21:49Stavros Halkias?

  I do, like, you don't wanna, I just hope he's having a real tough time in prison.

• 21:53Speaker 03

  I can't imagine he's not getting-

• 21:55Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah.

• 21:56Speaker 02

  Absolutely.

• 21:57Stavros Halkias?

  He's getting a different kind of footlong in prison.

• 22:02Speaker 02

  We are sponsored by Subway.

• 22:05Stavros Halkias?

  Subway, remember how our mascot just actually was a pedophile?

• 22:09Speaker 02

  He froze.

• 22:10Stavros Halkias?

  And we didn't even like change the logo?

• 22:13Speaker 02

  Didn't change anything.

• 22:14Stavros Halkias?

  You gotta get a new color scheme.

• 22:15Speaker 02

  Where did he go?

• 22:17Stavros Halkias?

  He's, uh, he's actually, look up how.

• 22:19Speaker 02

  Is he serving time?

• 22:20Stavros Halkias?

  He's in Indiana serving time right now.

• 22:21Speaker 02

  My question is, is he's still thin?

• 22:23Stavros Halkias?

  Ooh.

• 22:24Speaker 02

  And what was his name again?

• 22:25Stavros Halkias?

  Uh, Jared.

• 22:26Speaker 02

  Did he keep the weight off?

• 22:28Speaker 03

  That's what I care most about.

• 22:29Stavros Halkias?

  Is this, did the stress in prison?

• 22:32Speaker 02

  Make him thin or fat?

• 22:33Stavros Halkias?

  Cause he had enough money to get commissary. So he could probably get as many Cheetos and shit as he wants.

• 22:38Speaker 02

  Right.

• 22:39Stavros Halkias?

  You ever see those TikToks where it's like a guy's making like a, an ice cream sundae out of like, what you can buy in jail?

• 22:44Speaker 02

  No.

• 22:45Stavros Halkias?

  There's, there was a great genre of TikToks. It's like jail, like here's nachos and he would like, take a bag of like corn chips and like beat them into like.

• 22:54Speaker 02

  He's out of prison now?

• 22:55Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah, but he's just showing you how you ate good in prison.

• 22:58Speaker 02

  It's like, um, when you would play Top Chef with your siblings and be like, what can I make in the fridge? But he's doing it at, in prison.

• 23:04Stavros Halkias?

  In prison, yeah.

• 23:05Speaker 03

  My algorithm's way different.

• 23:06Speaker 02

  I'll tell you this, I went on a date recently with a guy who's been to jail.

• 23:11Stavros Halkias?

  Okay.

• 23:12Speaker 02

  And he told me that in jail, they all pass around different books.

• 23:16Stavros Halkias?

  Hmm.

• 23:16Speaker 02

  They share books.

• 23:17Stavros Halkias?

  Okay.

• 23:18Speaker 02

  And when he was in jail, everyone was reading.

• 23:22Speaker 03

  Can't read, can't read.

• 23:22Stavros Halkias?

  I wasn't doing any more crime. I was, uh, reading.

• 23:26Speaker 02

  And he said when he was in jail, they were all reading the Twilight Saga.

• 23:31Stavros Halkias?

  That's awesome. That's fucking sick, yeah.

• 23:34Speaker 02

  So all of these true blue murderers.

• 23:36Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah.

• 23:36Speaker 02

  Were like.

• 23:37Stavros Halkias?

  The guy, you went on a date with a guy who was in that kind of jail?

• 23:39Speaker 02

  Oh, well, I guess not.

• 23:40Stavros Halkias?

  He probably did like white collar crime.

• 23:42Speaker 02

  I don't really know the different kinds of jails.

• 23:44Speaker 03

  Do you know what he did?

• 23:45Speaker 02

  Drugs?

• 23:46Stavros Halkias?

  Oh. Selling, doing?

• 23:48Speaker 02

  Selling, doing.

• 23:49Stavros Halkias?

  Hmm.

• 23:50Speaker 03

  It usually goes hand in hand.

• 23:51Speaker 02

  I thought they're all in their Misk.

• 23:53Stavros Halkias?

  No, it's not like that. It's not a grab bag.

• 23:56Speaker 03

  There's two different things.

• 23:57Speaker 02

  He wasn't in prison. Oh.

• 24:00Stavros Halkias?

  Jail is like, they just hold you there for a little bit before you go to prison.

• 24:03Speaker 02

  Oh. Should I text him if he was in jail or prison?

• 24:06Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah. No, don't do that.

• 24:07Speaker 02

  All right.

• 24:08Stavros Halkias?

  Actually, did it go, did they go well?

• 24:10Speaker 02

  Yeah, we're kind of seeing each other.

• 24:11Stavros Halkias?

  Oh, wow. Good for you. Is he a nice guy?

• 24:14Speaker 03

  Happy seeing a full blown criminal.

• 24:16Stavros Halkias?

  Is he team Jacob or team Edward?

• 24:17Speaker 02

  Hey, were you in jail or prison? And were you team Jacob or team Edward?

• 24:25Stavros Halkias?

  Great, thank you.

• 24:28Speaker 02

  We'll find out soon.

• 24:29Stavros Halkias?

  I can't wait.

• 24:30Speaker 03

  Awesome.

• 24:30Stavros Halkias?

  Um, and where did you meet? The internet?

• 24:33Speaker 02

  The internet.

• 24:33Stavros Halkias?

  Nice.

• 24:34Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 24:34Stavros Halkias?

  Cool.

• 24:35Speaker 03

  Gabby gets cool guys in her DMs in a way that I don't.

• 24:37Speaker 02

  I've been really playing the DMs in a fun way.

• 24:40Stavros Halkias?

  Hmm.

• 24:40Speaker 03

  I don't get, those aren't, those aren't coming through in my DMs.

• 24:44Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, what's going on?

• 24:45Speaker 03

  My DMs are like, I mean, me and Gabby always joke because we tour together and like the line to meet Gabby is like, girls that are like, they're like, Gabby!

• 24:55Speaker 03

  And then my line is like, guys, like, standing like this. Literally like this, and they're like.

• 25:01Speaker 02

  So Steph, what do you think about the war in Gaza?

• 25:04Speaker 03

  Yeah. It's kind of like your fanbase shit. Like, I bet we kind of have the same fans, but I just have 0.001% of yours.

• 25:12Stavros Halkias?

  That's tough, though. I would not want this.

• 25:13Speaker 03

  And it's your worst ones.

• 25:14Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, I would not want a small ver- of like, year one come town.

• 25:18Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 25:18Stavros Halkias?

  I don't want that.

• 25:19Speaker 03

  Those are my boys.

• 25:20Speaker 02

  Exactly.

• 25:21Speaker 03

  Those are my baby boys.

• 25:22Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah. Well, you know what? I'm glad to see they've moved on.

• 25:25Speaker 03

  And then the, yeah, my DMs, it's not like hot, cool guys.

• 25:28Stavros Halkias?

  Hmm.

• 25:28Speaker 02

  Yeah, but I DM too.

• 25:29Stavros Halkias?

  Couple guys really devastated listening to this podcast right now. There's like some.

• 25:33Speaker 03

  Like, I've been DMing her every day.

• 25:34Stavros Halkias?

  There's some 5'7" guys.

• 25:37Speaker 02

  Which is big.

• 25:38Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, which is huge, as we've covered. That's where tall starts.

• 25:42Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 25:43Speaker 02

  That's where tall starts.

• 25:47Stavros Halkias?

  So you're a real height queen, huh, Gab?

• 25:49Speaker 02

  Yeah, I'm a bit of a heightist, but I'm tall. I'm 5'10".

• 25:52Stavros Halkias?

  Interesting. See, I think we have the opposite where I just don't, again, I have a mental illness where I think I'm like, better at everything than I actually am, which has served me, I think it's good if you think.

• 26:02Speaker 02

  That's a mental wellness.

• 26:03Stavros Halkias?

  I think it, yeah, I think it's like being, thinking you're like 15% better at everything than you are is the perfect amount.

• 26:09Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 26:09Stavros Halkias?

  Cause it's not full delusion.

• 26:11Speaker 03

  Gabby has that too.

• 26:12Speaker 02

  But it's confidence.

• 26:12Speaker 03

  Gabby has that too.

• 26:13Stavros Halkias?

  I would bump Gabby's up a couple percent.

• 26:15Speaker 03

  Gabby has, we've.

• 26:16Stavros Halkias?

  I would get to 30%.

• 26:17Speaker 03

  Gabby has, Gabby has looked me dead in the eyes and said she has no insecurities.

• 26:23Speaker 03

  And I said, surely that's not true. She's like, can't think of one.

• 26:27Speaker 02

  This is really, we're really being pitted against each other right now, but it is true. I have perfect mental health.

• 26:34Stavros Halkias?

  I'm gonna make, I would argue you don't, but I'm happy for you.

• 26:38Speaker 03

  She has no imposter syndrome. She's the only person I know who doesn't have imposter syndrome.

• 26:42Stavros Halkias?

  That's big.

• 26:42Speaker 02

  No, Zombie doesn't have imposter syndrome.

• 26:45Speaker 03

  Yeah, but he's a man and men don't have imposter syndrome.

• 26:47Stavros Halkias?

  I did when I, it takes a lot. Like, it really took to be like, the first time I got nervous in a while was like doing a movie with Emma Stone. Like, that's where I had, that's where I was like, which, that wasn't imposter syndrome. That was like, why am I here?

• 26:59Speaker 03

  Yeah, that's like, that's like, correct.

• 27:00Stavros Halkias?

  I was fully correct.

• 27:01Speaker 03

  You was in the correct emotion.

• 27:02Stavros Halkias?

  Thank God Yorgos Lanthimos was watching Tires one night, I guess. Like, I don't, I don't know how, I still to this day.

• 27:09Speaker 02

  So cool.

• 27:09Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 27:10Speaker 02

  It's so random and so perfect.

• 27:12Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. But that, that was like, the first time I was like, oh, fuck. But now I'm like, it took, it's like, now I'm like, oh, yeah, I'm a fucking Hollywood actor.

• 27:21Speaker 03

  You've gone Hollywood.

• 27:21Stavros Halkias?

  Now I don't give a fuck at all. Now it's actually kind of fun because I, I am shooting a movie and I'm kind of treating it like I did like my job. I kind of cared about, you know what I mean?

• 27:30Speaker 03

  That's perfect. That's where you're supposed to get to.

• 27:32Stavros Halkias?

  I'll just show up.

• 27:33Speaker 03

  Wait, do you know that we're both obsessed with Anthony Bourdain?

• 27:36Stavros Halkias?

  Oh, hell, yeah. He's, yeah.

• 27:38Speaker 03

  You're in what? The Anthony Bourdain biopic. Are you playing Anthony?

• 27:42Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, I'm, I'm young. I'm in flashback. I play him as a child.

• 27:47Speaker 03

  Oh, my God, that's so cool.

• 27:47Speaker 02

  He's just a New Jersey.

• 27:48Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm eating a big lollipop. I'm like, I hope I learn what Castellet is someday.

• 27:55Speaker 03

  Your first words? Catch you a pip.

• 28:01Stavros Halkias?

  Yes, I'm in the Anthony Bourdain biopic. I play, I don't want to spoil too much, but I think you can guess, I play a line cook who bullies young Anthony Bourdain.

• 28:11Speaker 03

  Fuck, I want that role. I went out for that, actually.

• 28:15Speaker 02

  We were both up for that.

• 28:16Speaker 03

  We were pretty pissed at you.

• 28:17Stavros Halkias?

  Sorry, gals.

• 28:18Speaker 02

  No, Anthony Bourdain is the love of both of our lives.

• 28:20Speaker 03

  Love of our lives.

• 28:21Stavros Halkias?

  Interesting. That's a little millennial of you. You know what I mean? You're, that's a little.

• 28:27Speaker 03

  We are millennials.

• 28:28Stavros Halkias?

  I know, I know.

• 28:29Speaker 02

  I know your cuss.

• 28:30Speaker 03

  I'm trying so hard to not seem like one.

• 28:33Speaker 02

  I'm solid millennial.

• 28:34Speaker 03

  You're a solid millennial.

• 28:35Stavros Halkias?

  No, no, he is the man. I fucking love Bourdain. And those shows were, he was the, it, and I, it's millennial of you, and I say that as a thirty-seven-year-old full, fully millennial motherfucker who loves him. It's like, that feels like one of our defining, like, generational things.

• 28:49Speaker 03

  It's our guy.

• 28:50Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah.

• 28:51Speaker 03

  They don't, they don't make good guys like that anymore. He was a quality man, I think.

• 28:54Speaker 02

  He was everything and more.

• 28:56Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah.

• 28:56Speaker 02

  And his books, his books for me.

• 28:58Stavros Halkias?

  His books were great.

• 28:59Speaker 02

  Not to talk about books again.

• 29:00Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 29:01Speaker 02

  Oh, let's see.

• 29:02Speaker 03

  I feel like he's never assaulted someone, and that's rare.

• 29:05Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, well, you know, I guess.

• 29:07Speaker 03

  In terms of Hollywood men.

• 29:09Stavros Halkias?

  No, actually, actually, this biopic does take place in the first, um, it's basically the first two chapters of Kitchen Confidential. It's like when, his first summer in Provincetown. And he, I think he did get married to like, the girl he dated as a teen for a long time.

• 29:25Speaker 02

  And then they got divorced.

• 29:26Stavros Halkias?

  Now.

• 29:27Speaker 03

  Was he, was he a teen?

• 29:28Stavros Halkias?

  The second that Kitchen Confidential money hit, all of a sudden, he's, yeah, so, you know.

• 29:34Speaker 03

  He was definitely fucking hookers. Like, I can see that for him. He was doing heroin and fucking hookers.

• 29:38Speaker 02

  Which is cool.

• 29:39Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 29:39Speaker 02

  Which is cool.

• 29:40Speaker 03

  Which is cool.

• 29:41Speaker 02

  And probably fun.

• 29:42Speaker 03

  And I bet he treated them nicely.

• 29:43Stavros Halkias?

  Totally. Oh, yeah. If you're, if you're a, if you're a sex worker dealing with a heroin addict, there's no better one than Anthony Bourdain.

• 29:51Speaker 02

  That's a good time.

• 29:52Stavros Halkias?

  Like, those guys are probably, yeah, that, he's probably gentle, nice.

• 29:55Speaker 03

  He's cooking afterwards.

• 29:56Stavros Halkias?

  It's ramen noodle, hot dogs. You know, you're in a crack den or wherever it is, but yeah, he's making the best of it.

• 30:03Speaker 03

  Who's playing Anthony? Is that public?

• 30:05Stavros Halkias?

  Uh, yeah, Dom Sessa from The Holdovers.

• 30:09Speaker 03

  Don't know. Do you know?

• 30:10Stavros Halkias?

  You do know. He's perfect. No, he's perfect. He's perfect for it. He fucking killed it. And he's a fucking piece of ass. Look him up. I think you'll both enjoy your season.

• 30:17Speaker 03

  Is he single?

• 30:19Speaker 02

  Why aren't you setting us up with?

• 30:20Speaker 03

  Yeah, why?

• 30:21Stavros Halkias?

  You want me to set you up with Dom? Who's also like 25?

• 30:24Speaker 03

  Literally set me up with anyone, that's fine, I don't care.

• 30:26Stavros Halkias?

  Okay.

• 30:27Speaker 03

  Set me up with anyone.

• 30:28Speaker 02

  That should be something that's sort of bubbling around in your head.

• 30:30Stavros Halkias?

  You want, see, you're, the fact that this is just such proof that like, you know, we are friends, but we're not immediately set you up with all the movie stars I know, friends.

• 30:41Speaker 03

  I actually thought we were, you're being mean.

• 30:43Speaker 02

  I don't see why you wouldn't consider that.

• 30:46Stavros Halkias?

  Hold on, let me take a pic and I'll send it.

• 30:47Speaker 03

  We've met, we've met three times.

• 30:49Stavros Halkias?

  Okay, you text your, your current, you know, prison boyfriend?

• 30:52Speaker 02

  Picture me with a spray tan.

• 30:53Stavros Halkias?

  I'll text Dom and be like, hey, do you want to fuck either one of these girls?

• 30:59Speaker 03

  Just put that right on your story.

• 31:02Speaker 03

  Just go ahead and put that right on your story.

• 31:03Speaker 02

  Say to any A-list celebrities.

• 31:05Speaker 03

  And your, and your ghost, I'm available for work.

• 31:08Speaker 02

  As well as jobs.

• 31:09Stavros Halkias?

  Yep, yep, yep.

• 31:10Speaker 03

  Work and jobs, we're here.

• 31:11Speaker 02

  No, I can't have sex with a 25-year-old, that's on you.

• 31:13Speaker 03

  Yeah, that's, that's, that's me shit, that's me shit.

• 31:16Stavros Halkias?

  Wow, we, we do have a lot in common, Steph.

• 31:22Stavros Halkias?

  Just two, just two scumbag Eastern Europeans.

• 31:29Stavros Halkias?

  Oh, interesting, is that, is that what you're into?

• 31:31Speaker 03

  No, I've actually, that's actually, we said that, but I've never fucked a younger guy.

• 31:35Stavros Halkias?

  Oh, wow.

• 31:35Speaker 03

  But I fuck men who are emotionally 11.

• 31:37Stavros Halkias?

  Oh, come on.

• 31:38Speaker 02

  Don't say 11.

• 31:39Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 31:41Speaker 03

  11, 11.

• 31:43Stavros Halkias?

  Now mentally?

• 31:44Speaker 03

  Mentally, mentally.

• 31:46Speaker 02

  They're mentally 11.

• 31:47Stavros Halkias?

  Okay, that's tough.

• 31:48Speaker 03

  They're not old souls.

• 31:49Stavros Halkias?

  Right.

• 31:49Speaker 03

  But they're old men.

• 31:50Stavros Halkias?

  Mm-hmm.

• 31:51Speaker 03

  Um, yeah, I don't know, I'm, but that's not my story anymore.

• 31:55Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah, no, you're different.

• 31:56Speaker 02

  Now, we're changing this narrative.

• 31:57Stavros Halkias?

  What are we changing? Let's work on this.

• 31:58Speaker 03

  I had a tarot card reader the other day tell me that I am gonna meet my man soon. He's gonna be an Aries, he's gonna work in entertainment, he's gonna be very, very rich.

• 32:05Speaker 02

  What's your A sign?

• 32:07Stavros Halkias?

  I'm Aquarius, unfortunately.

• 32:08Speaker 03

  Oh, bad, bad, bad, bad.

• 32:10Stavros Halkias?

  We were, we were just about to get married. Honestly, everything else except the Aries does check the box.

• 32:15Speaker 02

  Aquarius is better than Aries, in my opinion.

• 32:17Speaker 03

  I don't know, Aquarius, I can't do another A sign.

• 32:20Stavros Halkias?

  This is why your life's bad, by the way. Saying that so genuinely and I was like, oh, you're right.

• 32:27Speaker 03

  No, that's horrible.

• 32:29Stavros Halkias?

  And what about it? Educate me. What about the air signs?

• 32:32Speaker 03

  So I'm a, I'm a water. I'm a cancer and that's the most sensitive, that's the most sensitive sign. The most feminine sign, actually.

• 32:39Stavros Halkias?

  Okay.

• 32:39Speaker 03

  And I need someone who's flowing and grounded. Air signs are all like, I just don't really know right now. Like, you know, I'm just trying to get.

• 32:47Stavros Halkias?

  You got me there.

• 32:48Speaker 03

  It's that.

• 32:48Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, you do.

• 32:49Speaker 03

  They're in the clouds. I'm in the creek. I'm in the babbling brook.

• 32:52Stavros Halkias?

  Right. You're in the mud.

• 32:54Speaker 03

  You're up there. Well, I didn't say mud.

• 32:55Stavros Halkias?

  I'm in the mud. I'm in the clouds. I'm fucking with.

• 32:58Speaker 03

  I didn't say I was in the mud like a pig.

• 32:59Stavros Halkias?

  I'm flying with the bird. You're down there.

• 33:03Stavros Halkias?

  Like a little.

• 33:04Speaker 03

  I wish you ate.

• 33:04Speaker 02

  Eating out of the trough.

• 33:09Speaker 02

  You feel a little fatty? Your friend writes back, she's a little fat.

• 33:13Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, I'll take the fat one.

• 33:19Stavros Halkias?

  No, you are not fat. I'm sorry you had an eating disorder. I'm sorry to, you know, I, as a member, see, that's the thing. Men also, I clearly have an eating disorder, by the way. It's just the complete opposite one of yours.

• 33:31Speaker 02

  Binge eating? You're just not purging after the binge?

• 33:33Stavros Halkias?

  No, no, I just didn't get the purge.

• 33:35Speaker 03

  Right.

• 33:36Stavros Halkias?

  But I have, I have an insanely unhealthy relationship to food. It's.

• 33:40Speaker 03

  I don't know anyone who has like a good relationship to food.

• 33:42Speaker 02

  Genuinely.

• 33:43Speaker 03

  Genuinely.

• 33:43Stavros Halkias?

  No, sometimes you just see a person like, you'll just be out to lunch and they'll just have like three quarters of a sandwich and be like, that was it.

• 33:50Speaker 03

  Yeah, I guess.

• 33:51Speaker 02

  Yeah, but that person is a serial killer.

• 33:53Stavros Halkias?

  They're out there.

• 33:55Speaker 03

  I only overeat or undereat.

• 33:57Speaker 02

  Same.

• 33:57Speaker 03

  Those are my two modes.

• 33:58Stavros Halkias?

  Interesting.

• 33:59Speaker 03

  And I'm the way that, and I don't cook and I don't have regular food in my house.

• 34:03Stavros Halkias?

  Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha.

• 34:05Speaker 03

  At all.

• 34:05Speaker 02

  That being said, I, the peptides, no.

• 34:07Stavros Halkias?

  Oh, we're getting pepped up?

• 34:08Speaker 03

  Gabby's in, Gab, wait, do you want to talk about it?

• 34:11Speaker 02

  Well, I am a peptide princess right now.

• 34:13Stavros Halkias?

  I'd love to get into, I can't wait to do a bunch of peptides, by the way.

• 34:16Speaker 02

  Why aren't you doing peptides?

• 34:17Stavros Halkias?

  Because I right now have two traumatic injuries and I'm filming a movie.

• 34:22Speaker 03

  There's a peptide for that.

• 34:26Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, I do want to get some.

• 34:28Speaker 03

  Work's just been crazy right now. I don't have enough time to inject my butt every day.

• 34:32Stavros Halkias?

  Where do you get these though? Do you have like a guy?

• 34:34Speaker 02

  I have a dealer who lives in Arizona.

• 34:36Stavros Halkias?

  Okay, so that's a problem. So, you know what I mean? Like, I'd love for a doctor to do this.

• 34:39Speaker 03

  And you met him through your prison boyfriend?

• 34:41Speaker 02

  I did. She did.

• 34:43Stavros Halkias?

  Wait, really?

• 34:46Speaker 03

  She did.

• 34:46Speaker 02

  I have a doctor, if you want a doctor. But I'm such a Jew that the doctor was too much money. So I found a dealer to prescribe me the same things. And now I pay a third of the price.

• 34:57Stavros Halkias?

  Oh, interesting. Okay.

• 34:58Speaker 02

  And he's obviously a little league baseball coach in Arizona.

• 35:03Stavros Halkias?

  That's fucking awesome. He sounds cool.

• 35:05Speaker 02

  No, he's cool.

• 35:06Stavros Halkias?

  He sounds really cool. Yeah, well, I'm gonna be in Phoenix. Tell him to, tell him to come by.

• 35:10Speaker 03

  Gabby's been trying to get me on these peptides.

• 35:13Speaker 02

  I'm loving the peptides.

• 35:14Stavros Halkias?

  And what's it doing for you?

• 35:15Speaker 02

  I'm on several different ones.

• 35:16Speaker 03

  She's on a lot.

• 35:17Speaker 02

  I'm on a lot.

• 35:18Stavros Halkias?

  Okay. And you think, why?

• 35:20Speaker 03

  So you inject multiple jabs every day?

• 35:22Speaker 02

  I'm doing multiple jabs. I line in the morning.

• 35:24Stavros Halkias?

  Every day?

• 35:25Speaker 02

  Yeah, I line.

• 35:26Stavros Halkias?

  No, hold on, you do a shot every fucking day?

• 35:28Speaker 03

  Multiple shots.

• 35:29Stavros Halkias?

  Wow, okay.

• 35:30Speaker 02

  And then I line them up.

• 35:31Stavros Halkias?

  What do you do?

• 35:32Speaker 02

  And I take one by one, right in the side of my ass.

• 35:34Stavros Halkias?

  Oh, little this.

• 35:35Speaker 02

  Little.

• 35:36Stavros Halkias?

  Cool.

• 35:37Speaker 02

  And it's fun and it's, it's, it's exciting.

• 35:40Speaker 03

  She's been acting like she's on crack cocaine.

• 35:42Speaker 02

  Yeah, I'm having a lot of fun, fun with it. I'm on something called Red A True Tie that only men with Bitcoin are on, and me.

• 35:49Stavros Halkias?

  Doesn't that make you jacked?

• 35:51Speaker 02

  It makes you jacked.

• 35:52Stavros Halkias?

  Is that why you're red? Are you not actually, are you not actually have a sunburn?

• 35:56Speaker 02

  My blood is getting stuck in certain parts of my. I'm on that one. I'm on NAD, what you're doing. I'm on a hair, skin and nails one called GHK.

• 36:05Speaker 03

  NAD is not, I think NAD is really just like a vitamin.

• 36:08Speaker 02

  NAD is just like, it's not really.

• 36:10Stavros Halkias?

  I did it one time and it felt good.

• 36:12Speaker 02

  I really like it.

• 36:12Speaker 03

  That one, I feel like I'm not, I'm not scared of the risks. But what make you jacked?

• 36:17Speaker 02

  It's, it's a GLP-3, so it basically like dissolves all the fat.

• 36:21Stavros Halkias?

  You shouldn't be on that. You're fucking so skinny, that's insane.

• 36:24Speaker 02

  I know, but it's like.

• 36:26Speaker 03

  Remember Gabby said she has no insecurities and has never had an eating disorder?

• 36:30Stavros Halkias?

  This is fucking crazy.

• 36:34Stavros Halkias?

  Someone who was so malnourished as a child, her dad had to treat her like a leukemia patient.

• 36:39Speaker 02

  I missed the banana milk.

• 36:41Stavros Halkias?

  You're on, I'm on a GLP-1, you're on a GLP-3. Of the people in this room, you're on a more, you're on the more advanced fat loss drug.

• 36:50Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 36:51Stavros Halkias?

  That's insane, Gab.

• 36:52Speaker 02

  But I'm on a microdose.

• 36:53Stavros Halkias?

  Okay.

• 36:53Speaker 02

  Well, it started with my friend took Ozempic and she lost like 30 pounds. And every now and then I was like, let me just get a hit.

• 36:58Stavros Halkias?

  Right, that's how it works.

• 37:00Speaker 02

  Yeah, so.

• 37:02Speaker 03

  It can be.

• 37:03Stavros Halkias?

  It really shouldn't be.

• 37:04Speaker 02

  I've been just doing hits.

• 37:05Stavros Halkias?

  Okay, all right. Yeah, no, you're right. You have no mental health problems whatsoever.

• 37:12Stavros Halkias?

  Okay, that's nice. And are you, uh, and so you're, you're at the, you're looking to ride peptides to a better life?

• 37:19Speaker 02

  I'm just interested in how far we could push this. You know what I mean?

• 37:23Stavros Halkias?

  Would you like to be a, would you put like robotic stuff in your body? Would you go cyborg?

• 37:27Speaker 02

  I would do full transplant, brain transplant.

• 37:30Speaker 03

  She's being serious.

• 37:31Speaker 02

  I would do anything. I would genuinely do anything.

• 37:34Stavros Halkias?

  What's the dream? Like, I read a book where they would clone you and they, uh, and you could, you just had like young versions, like you picked whenever you thought you were the hottest and you just cloned yourself at that moment? And anytime your like body started like, you would just trade in a new body every like five years?

• 37:52Speaker 03

  So I could like have my 11 year old body?

• 37:54Speaker 02

  What is with 11?

• 37:56Speaker 03

  So I can finally understand the men I'm dating?

• 38:00Speaker 02

  Now we're out there.

• 38:01Stavros Halkias?

  Your brain unfortunately would stay the same, Stan.

• 38:04Speaker 03

  You start dating pedophiles?

• 38:07Speaker 02

  I would take out all my blood, replace it with virgin blood. Like, I would be doing sort of classic witch moves.

• 38:13Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 38:14Speaker 02

  I'll do all of it.

• 38:14Stavros Halkias?

  Okay. I don't think you should want to do all that stuff.

• 38:17Speaker 02

  Why?

• 38:18Stavros Halkias?

  And you're healthy. Like, why are you doing that?

• 38:19Speaker 02

  Because it's fun. I'm from New Jersey. It's like part of the culture.

• 38:22Stavros Halkias?

  Well, I guess your dad was on, was it meth?

• 38:25Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 38:25Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah. So this is a, this is a positive, I guess, generational speaking.

• 38:29Speaker 03

  Is your dad taking peptides?

• 38:30Speaker 02

  Yes! Everyone in my family's on peptides.

• 38:32Stavros Halkias?

  Oh, hell yeah. That's fucking awesome.

• 38:34Speaker 02

  My dad's literally doing cocaine and peptides.

• 38:36Stavros Halkias?

  I'd love, one day we gotta get you and your pops on.

• 38:40Speaker 02

  Oh, whenever you want.

• 38:41Stavros Halkias?

  Together, I would love.

• 38:41Speaker 03

  Hey, you don't want my dad on too?

• 38:43Stavros Halkias?

  I would, actually.

• 38:44Speaker 03

  Wait, you guys don't want my dad on?

• 38:46Stavros Halkias?

  I would have, if you want to contact him for, I assume, the first time in a decade.

• 38:49Speaker 03

  If anyone knows where he is? If you could put a prop down. I'm sure some, one of your viewers has sold him cocaine.

• 38:57Stavros Halkias?

  Tell him it pays $250. Maybe he'll show up.

• 39:03Speaker 03

  We gotta, there's a knock on the door. He's already here.

• 39:05Speaker 02

  Hello?

• 39:08Stavros Halkias?

  He's carrying out one of the TVs in the fucking lobby.

• 39:12Speaker 03

  He's stealing the copper?

• 39:17Stavros Halkias?

  Oh, fuck.

• 39:18Speaker 03

  No, he's sober. No, he has turned his life around.

• 39:22Stavros Halkias?

  Oh, good for him.

• 39:23Speaker 03

  No, he's doing good.

• 39:23Stavros Halkias?

  Is it religious wise? Like, did he go like?

• 39:25Speaker 03

  He got really into AA.

• 39:27Stavros Halkias?

  Ah, okay.

• 39:27Speaker 03

  But he's not really, he's not like drinking the Kool-Aid of the religious stuff. He's, my dad's actually really funny and cool and like a hippie guy, but he doesn't call me.

• 39:34Speaker 02

  Right.

• 39:35Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, okay. That's actually, yeah. That's tough, because he's sober now.

• 39:39Speaker 03

  Yes, he can't blame it on alcohol.

• 39:42Stavros Halkias?

  When he was an addict.

• 39:43Speaker 03

  He's clear of mind.

• 39:44Stavros Halkias?

  Now, he's like, he's like, ah, what am I gonna fucking do today? Fuck, this is boring.

• 39:48Speaker 03

  He has nothing to do.

• 39:49Stavros Halkias?

  Being sober sucks. I don't know, I guess I'll, I guess I'll crack another Sudoku or something.

• 39:54Speaker 03

  Do I have any close relations I have to call? Nah, nah.

• 39:57Stavros Halkias?

  Maybe I'll take my son to a baseball game. Maybe I'll take my perfect son to a baseball game.

• 40:05Speaker 03

  My perfect small son.

• 40:09Stavros Halkias?

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• 40:52Stavros Halkias?

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• 41:34Stavros Halkias?

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• 42:18Stavros Halkias?

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• 42:29Speaker 03

  So here's the thing, my mom-

• 42:30Speaker 02

  This is actually topical.

• 42:31Speaker 03

  My mom has been dating a man named for 10 years. And they recently, he's, oh, he's an accountant. And my mom has roped him into doing all of her gypsy friends' taxes. So it's this picture of like 15 Eastern European women. He's doing their taxes for free. This year, my taxes were such a nightmare that he broke up with my mom over it.

• 42:51Stavros Halkias?

  No.

• 42:52Speaker 03

  He's so mad at my mom. He's ghosting her because he begged her not to open me an S corp. My mom did it anyway. She opened it wrong. She also called it, this sucks productions, but she did this sucks production also. Because she was like, it's just fun.

• 43:11Stavros Halkias?

  Right, right, right.

• 43:12Speaker 03

  And she opened it wrong and she didn't fill out the right paperwork. I'm being fined. I don't know. And he dumped her. He's not, he's not talking to her right now.

• 43:19Speaker 02

  No, it's a disaster.

• 43:22Speaker 03

  I haven't filed my taxes yet.

• 43:24Stavros Halkias?

  That's awesome. He's just clearly been cheating. He's like, nice, an excuse.

• 43:28Speaker 02

  He's like, taxes are crazy. Your daughter's, your bitch daughter, fat daughter's taxes-

• 43:32Speaker 03

  Your fat bitch daughter.

• 43:34Speaker 02

  Your fat daughter's taxes for bad.

• 43:36Speaker 03

  I get why the first dad left. Jesus Christ, I'm drinking now.

• 43:41Speaker 03

  You really do need to do your taxes.

• 43:43Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 43:43Stavros Halkias?

  You get an extension?

• 43:45Speaker 03

  I don't know.

• 43:46Stavros Halkias?

  You don't know. You don't have a guy?

• 43:47Speaker 03

  I'm like really bad at like surviving it. Like I have like low survival instincts.

• 43:54Speaker 02

  That's actually true.

• 43:55Speaker 03

  It is true.

• 43:56Speaker 02

  She does have like four. Steph has always had like the best job.

• 44:00Speaker 03

  I have two 401ks.

• 44:01Speaker 02

  She has two 401ks. She doesn't know how to get access to.

• 44:04Speaker 03

  Yeah, I don't have the passwords. I've had, I've been in corporate America since I was.

• 44:08Stavros Halkias?

  Wait, really?

• 44:08Speaker 03

  Seven.

• 44:09Stavros Halkias?

  What were you doing?

• 44:09Speaker 02

  She's the youngest director at Conde Nast ever.

• 44:11Speaker 03

  It's true, but I.

• 44:13Stavros Halkias?

  Wait, what do you mean?

• 44:14Speaker 03

  Like I would direct videos for like Vogue and GQ and stuff.

• 44:16Stavros Halkias?

  That's awesome.

• 44:17Speaker 03

  But, and I've like been financially independent from forever and all this stuff, but I'm like also like fully retarded.

• 44:24Speaker 02

  Yeah, like she was the youngest director at Conde Nast and we'd go on a trip and her plane, she wouldn't pick a seat on the plane.

• 44:30Stavros Halkias?

  Right.

• 44:31Speaker 03

  Like I don't have a phone charger with me.

• 44:33Stavros Halkias?

  Right, right, right.

• 44:33Speaker 02

  Like she would just buy.

• 44:34Stavros Halkias?

  I see.

• 44:35Speaker 03

  But I'm like running businesses.

• 44:37Stavros Halkias?

  Mm-hmm.

• 44:37Speaker 03

  But like how? And I would keep getting promoted and be like, I don't know.

• 44:40Stavros Halkias?

  You can do high level stuff, but you, the day to day is boring to you.

• 44:44Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah.

• 44:45Stavros Halkias?

  Okay.

• 44:45Speaker 03

  Yeah, like I don't, I don't buy groceries. I don't cook.

• 44:48Stavros Halkias?

  You need a little five-four husband to do all your, to do tasks for you.

• 44:52Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 44:53Stavros Halkias?

  Little guy you can keep in your purse.

• 44:54Speaker 03

  Yeah, a little, I need a little guy. If you know, if you know any.

• 44:59Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, why, so those DMs are lighten up, sister. Unless, and let's just say it's not going to be an improvement on you, on what you were complaining about at the beginning of the episode.

• 45:08Speaker 02

  A little bit worse.

• 45:11Stavros Halkias?

  I get that though, because I feel, I actually feel the exact same way where I like would oftentimes, uh, like my whole life, I've never thought about money and then it just, I got lucky that things went the way they did. Uh, but I can't, I don't know how to like, you know, I don't know how to like, like if a, if a, if a bill comes, like if a paper bill comes, it's never getting fucking better.

• 45:33Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 45:34Stavros Halkias?

  I don't know how to do, I don't know how to do upkeep stuff.

• 45:36Speaker 03

  Low executive function.

• 45:37Stavros Halkias?

  Very low executive function.

• 45:39Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 45:39Stavros Halkias?

  I, I can't plan stuff like, sometimes I get really excited to sit down and like, be like, I'm going to think about this, the next two weeks. And it takes me like just four hours to look at a calendar and be like. Podcast at.

• 45:55Stavros Halkias?

  Twelve.

• 45:56Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 45:56Stavros Halkias?

  And I'm like, fuck dude, alright, I need a break. Just literally scheduling shit takes me so fucking long, like logistical shit like that takes, but creative, it sounds like maybe it's a similar thing where things that excite you, you can do, things that you see is like worth your time.

• 46:11Speaker 03

  A little bit, yeah.

• 46:12Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah.

• 46:13Speaker 02

  But also, numbers are hard.

• 46:14Stavros Halkias?

  I mean, yours might just be-

• 46:14Speaker 02

  We're vibes, we're more vibes than we are numbers.

• 46:16Speaker 03

  We're vibes.

• 46:17Stavros Halkias?

  I get that.

• 46:18Speaker 03

  But dwindling attention span because of social media, so then that's also going. So I'm like fully becoming like, kinda like this-

• 46:25Speaker 02

  Gen Z.

• 46:26Speaker 03

  Gen Z.

• 46:26Stavros Halkias?

  You can't, that's not how it works. If you give yourself the same, like, mental illness of a young person, you don't become young. You understand that, right?

• 46:34Speaker 02

  That's what she's doing.

• 46:36Speaker 03

  Instead of-

• 46:36Speaker 02

  I think you're wrong. I think me and Gabby are both experimenting different formats. That's sort of her treatment.

• 46:43Stavros Halkias?

  I see, I see, I see.

• 46:44Speaker 03

  Yes, yes, yes.

• 46:45Stavros Halkias?

  Are you just depressed, it sounds like?

• 46:47Speaker 03

  I actually don't think I'm depressed. I think I'm like-

• 46:50Stavros Halkias?

  Just your affect?

• 46:52Speaker 02

  The point you said that, I actually don't think I'm depressed.

• 46:55Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. So shit's going good.

• 46:57Speaker 03

  I'm like a pretty, I'm like a pretty joyful person.

• 46:59Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah.

• 47:00Speaker 03

  I just get a-

• 47:01Stavros Halkias?

  You have a lot of complaints.

• 47:02Speaker 03

  I get in some whole, I don't, am I complaining a lot?

• 47:05Stavros Halkias?

  It seems like you're not satisfied.

• 47:06Speaker 03

  I think I'm just stating the facts of my life.

• 47:10Stavros Halkias?

  It just seems like you're not satisfied. I'm not saying you're not-

• 47:12Speaker 02

  Don't be genuinely confused.

• 47:13Speaker 03

  I think it's just because I'm a brunette and I'm seeing Gabby who's a blonde, so anything I say seems like-

• 47:18Stavros Halkias?

  I'm not that stupid.

• 47:20Speaker 02

  It's like a black and white cookie, I can understand.

• 47:22Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. I'm like, huh, the one with yellow hair, happy.

• 47:27Speaker 02

  The goth one's sad.

• 47:32Speaker 03

  I think this is the least goth I've ever been, right?

• 47:34Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 47:35Speaker 03

  I'm pretty happy.

• 47:36Stavros Halkias?

  That's good, that's good.

• 47:37Speaker 02

  You're a bitch.

• 47:39Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 47:42Stavros Halkias?

  Okay.

• 47:43Speaker 03

  You know?

• 47:43Stavros Halkias?

  Cool. Alright, we'll revisit it in a few months, I guess.

• 47:46Speaker 02

  When Steph's killed herself.

• 47:49Speaker 03

  She loved Anthony Bourdain.

• 47:50Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. I just, I just know I got depressed once I, when I broke my, when I broke my arm and I had to fucking postpone a bunch of shit, it just, I, I was like, oh, right, this is what, like.

• 48:00Speaker 03

  I love postponing.

• 48:02Stavros Halkias?

  Postponing stuff's fun, but.

• 48:03Speaker 02

  Having an injury is the worst thing in the world.

• 48:06Speaker 03

  That's true.

• 48:07Speaker 02

  I once broke both my feet and I had to cancel a year of my life.

• 48:10Stavros Halkias?

  Both your feet?

• 48:11Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 48:11Stavros Halkias?

  How?

• 48:12Speaker 03

  Cause she had an eating disorder.

• 48:13Speaker 02

  Cause I was a vegan for not, and I wasn't taking vitamins and my bones were very brittle. And I was walking down the street, I was walking.

• 48:20Stavros Halkias?

  You fucking broke two feet walking?

• 48:22Speaker 02

  Yeah, I sort of was like playing with a dog a little bit. I went like this and I was wearing those fake Balenciaga sock sneakers. You remember those?

• 48:29Stavros Halkias?

  I remember those, yeah.

• 48:30Speaker 02

  And my foot sort of fell off the, you know.

• 48:33Stavros Halkias?

  Those are maybe the worst shoes of all time.

• 48:34Speaker 03

  She had a decades-long eating disorder.

• 48:37Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, that she's pretending.

• 48:38Speaker 03

  She was walking and went.

• 48:40Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah, that's fucking nuts.

• 48:41Speaker 03

  And now she's on lactose.

• 48:42Stavros Halkias?

  And what did you do? You just fucking laid up?

• 48:44Speaker 02

  I sort of laid up. I was, I was obviously living with a boyfriend who had no teeth and he would sort of carry me around. And he was doing a lot of carrying.

• 48:53Stavros Halkias?

  This is really fascinating, cause this, this is proof of like a perspective changing everything, cause Gabby's life also sounds bad. But she's smiling about it.

• 49:04Speaker 03

  Wait, I've been smiling this whole time.

• 49:06Stavros Halkias?

  But there is a different, I think you'll know, I think there's a, there's a quality to, like Gabby's legitimately having, like, happy.

• 49:14Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 49:14Stavros Halkias?

  You know, it's, your face is smiling, those eyes, those eyes can't, those eyes are stuck.

• 49:19Speaker 03

  We're working on it, we're working on it. I think NAD is really gonna help.

• 49:24Stavros Halkias?

  I feel so good. You need a little more delusion, that's really all it is.

• 49:28Speaker 03

  Yeah, I'm very, I'm very realistic.

• 49:30Stavros Halkias?

  Who was the toothless guy? Where'd you find him?

• 49:32Speaker 02

  He was a British guy, he had no front teeth, but the teeth next to the front teeth were gold.

• 49:36Stavros Halkias?

  Oh, cool.

• 49:37Speaker 02

  Um, shout out.

• 49:38Speaker 03

  Scabies.

• 49:39Speaker 02

  He had scabies, he had active, long-lasting scabies. He had an old jalopy that broke down in the back of my cousin's house. And he left it there for six months to a year after we broke up.

• 49:50Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah.

• 49:50Speaker 02

  He now moved back to England, he's doing very well.

• 49:52Stavros Halkias?

  Good for him.

• 49:53Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 49:53Stavros Halkias?

  And you both seem to love England. I feel like every time I look at Instagram, one of you is in England.

• 49:58Speaker 03

  She England-pilled me.

• 49:58Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 49:59Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, what's up with that?

• 50:00Speaker 02

  I just love it. They're all so sad.

• 50:03Speaker 03

  She's an Anglophile. I don't really like it that much over there.

• 50:06Speaker 02

  I like it, I like the accents. I'm actually coming off of it right now and I've been sort of into America, but like.

• 50:12Stavros Halkias?

  Right on time. You're like, I like what they're doing. If Israel wasn't that hot, I'd be there and now I want to come to America.

• 50:19Speaker 02

  My two favorite places.

• 50:25Speaker 02

  That's a joke. Don't clip that. I'll fucking kill you.

• 50:28Stavros Halkias?

  Clip it. No, no, don't.

• 50:32Speaker 02

  No, I really like England. I like the, I just like it.

• 50:36Stavros Halkias?

  I loved London. I did. I went to, I, I wanted to hate it so bad. I want to be like, eh, London sucks dick. New York number one, baby. And then you're like.

• 50:43Speaker 03

  It is a little better than New York, I think.

• 50:45Stavros Halkias?

  It's so much better.

• 50:45Speaker 02

  British people are funny and they roast.

• 50:47Stavros Halkias?

  Not so much. Let me say, not so much.

• 50:49Speaker 03

  Pub culture's cool.

• 50:50Speaker 02

  Liverpool's the best.

• 50:51Speaker 03

  Better nightlife.

• 50:52Stavros Halkias?

  I don't think I've been to Liverpool.

• 50:53Speaker 02

  Manchester's amazing. Like the New York of England.

• 50:56Stavros Halkias?

  Not amazing. That's fucking ridiculous.

• 50:57Speaker 02

  You don't like Manchester?

• 50:58Stavros Halkias?

  Is that where I went? It's like a fucking mall.

• 51:01Speaker 04

  That was one of the places.

• 51:02Stavros Halkias?

  Manchester sucks dick.

• 51:03Speaker 02

  We had the best time in Manchester.

• 51:05Speaker 03

  It's beautiful.

• 51:06Stavros Halkias?

  No, it's fucking not.

• 51:07Speaker 03

  Well, you're grading on a curve. It's England.

• 51:08Speaker 02

  It's a concrete city.

• 51:09Speaker 03

  It's all fucking disgusting.

• 51:11Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah. It had like burger. It was a place that it, it was like a fucking strip mall.

• 51:15Speaker 03

  There's burger. Like, yeah, that's everywhere. I think you were just at a strip mall.

• 51:19Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, I guess that was right by the train station and everything.

• 51:21Speaker 03

  You were at their Myrtle Broadway stop.

• 51:24Speaker 02

  That's like judging New York by Penn Station.

• 51:27Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 51:27Stavros Halkias?

  It's better than fucking whatever I saw in Manchester.

• 51:30Speaker 03

  I don't know.

• 51:30Stavros Halkias?

  The world's most famous arena right across the street. Pizza Suprema right there. Get a great slice. I don't know. Sounds pretty fucking good to me.

• 51:39Speaker 02

  Have you guessed it? There's also a subway. We went to Wales, which is in England, but that was fun. I love Ireland. I like the UK. I like a Peaky Blinder. I like how they're all violent and oppressed.

• 51:53Speaker 03

  You're tan. You look tan over there.

• 51:55Stavros Halkias?

  Oh, that's a good point.

• 51:56Speaker 02

  Also, they're very.

• 51:57Stavros Halkias?

  That makes sense.

• 52:00Speaker 03

  Well, the guys, I think England has the most disparity. The guys are really hot and the girls are fucking ugly. Except the people that come to our shows.

• 52:08Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah.

• 52:09Speaker 03

  But.

• 52:09Stavros Halkias?

  So busted. You said a lot. No, no, no. You, you can't walk that back. A lot of busted whores over in England.

• 52:15Speaker 02

  Yeah. It's not a great looking group. So you, you walk around and everyone's like.

• 52:20Stavros Halkias?

  In my head, I just think about like, like, I guess I only think about when I've heard black girls talking in a British accent. And to me, that's so hot that I'm like, nah, the girls are hot. I think the accent catches me.

• 52:31Speaker 03

  Black British guys are really hot. The rappers.

• 52:37Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah.

• 52:38Speaker 03

  You know?

• 52:38Speaker 02

  Yeah, they're so cool. Everyone's in a blazer.

• 52:41Stavros Halkias?

  Hmm.

• 52:42Speaker 02

  I like that.

• 52:42Speaker 03

  In shortage house.

• 52:44Speaker 02

  In shortage house. Yeah.

• 52:45Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 52:46Stavros Halkias?

  Uh, and then you, but then like, so you prefer other parts? Cause I feel like you, you're both always traveling internationally.

• 52:52Speaker 03

  Yeah, that's true.

• 52:53Stavros Halkias?

  Were you just in Europe?

• 52:54Speaker 03

  I'm a Euro girl through and through.

• 52:55Stavros Halkias?

  Gotcha.

• 52:56Speaker 03

  You know, but I'm big on the south.

• 52:59Stavros Halkias?

  Hell yeah, girl.

• 53:00Speaker 03

  Mediterranean, you know, but I also love, hey, Berlin.

• 53:03Speaker 02

  Right? You're so Berlin.

• 53:05Speaker 03

  I love ketamine. I love ketamine. I was just in Berlin and I kinda wanna move there.

• 53:10Stavros Halkias?

  Interesting.

• 53:11Speaker 02

  You know what I mean? Did you go to Berghain? Berghain? That's just. How do I say that?

• 53:14Speaker 03

  Berghain.

• 53:14Speaker 02

  Berghain?

• 53:15Speaker 03

  No, it wasn't open cause it wasn't a weekend, but I'll be going. I like, will go on like one bender a year. That's like, that then puts me out for the rest of the year.

• 53:24Speaker 02

  Cool.

• 53:24Speaker 03

  You know what I mean?

• 53:25Stavros Halkias?

  That's awesome. Definitely something you wanna think about. When it's like, all you're looking forward to is that bender. You're like, ah, let me just get to the fucking drug addiction.

• 53:33Speaker 02

  Wait for my vacation.

• 53:34Stavros Halkias?

  And it's each year it gets a couple of days longer.

• 53:37Speaker 03

  Famously, I always end up in a hospital in Europe, as you know.

• 53:40Speaker 02

  Anytime Steph, Steph acts like, first of all, we go to Europe all the time.

• 53:43Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah.

• 53:44Speaker 02

  Together. And anytime we go to Europe, Steph acts like, she's like, oh, I'm partying, I'm partying. No, she gets strep day two.

• 53:51Speaker 03

  Day two.

• 53:51Speaker 02

  She goes, immediately goes to the hospital. We're not about to go with her.

• 53:54Stavros Halkias?

  A lot too?

• 53:54Speaker 03

  I get strep every time I leave my house.

• 53:56Stavros Halkias?

  Me too. I.

• 53:57Speaker 02

  I think it's an STD.

• 53:59Stavros Halkias?

  Is it, you think so?

• 54:00Speaker 03

  I think one, it's an STD. Um, even when.

• 54:01Stavros Halkias?

  Hold on, did you get it as a kid?

• 54:03Speaker 03

  I don't remember.

• 54:04Stavros Halkias?

  Cause I got it as a kid and it just kept going. Every time we're on tour, I get strep at least once.

• 54:08Speaker 03

  I, cause I think it's from exhaustion and like, I think your body just whatever. But yeah, I get it every time I go to Europe.

• 54:13Speaker 02

  NAD.

• 54:16Stavros Halkias?

  You're right.

• 54:17Speaker 03

  Well, now I carry around.

• 54:18Speaker 02

  Nice routine.

• 54:18Speaker 03

  I went to Mexico, I got amoxicillin.

• 54:20Stavros Halkias?

  Little sluggers coach. He really says you should do some NAD. He's, when he's not rearranging little fat child, which fat child is gonna play catcher and which one's gonna be in right field.

• 54:31Speaker 02

  Trigger, trigger, trigger.

• 54:32Stavros Halkias?

  Hey, hey, come on. No one was a fatter child here than me. Alright, let's fucking relax.

• 54:38Speaker 02

  I was incredibly thin. No. Yeah, she's always in a hospital.

• 54:44Stavros Halkias?

  Did you have to go this time to a hospital?

• 54:46Speaker 03

  This time I didn't. I was sick, but now I carry around amoxicillin from Mexico that I got at a Mexican pharmacy, just in case. And I sort of just start taking that right before I go.

• 54:56Stavros Halkias?

  You really shouldn't do that. You really should not just take antibiotics just in case. That also fucks up your gut lining.

• 55:03Speaker 03

  I recently had strep twice in two weeks. I got strep. I think I gave it to a guy. He didn't take antibiotics. I went back. We had sex again and then he gave it. He gave me back my own strep and he never took antibiotics. And I was on them for a month.

• 55:17Stavros Halkias?

  Do you think his like tonsils are gonna explode?

• 55:19Speaker 03

  I don't know. I was looking at his tonsils and they didn't look good. But he was like, he was like, I'm gonna pass it. And I was like, I don't.

• 55:25Stavros Halkias?

  Awesome.

• 55:26Speaker 03

  But he's fine now.

• 55:27Stavros Halkias?

  That's one of the dumbest things you could possibly, it's like the most, you take one antibiotic, you feel like 80% better immediately.

• 55:34Speaker 03

  Yeah, he just wanted to.

• 55:35Stavros Halkias?

  This is a dumb guy?

• 55:36Speaker 02

  This is a dumb guy who we hope dies from strep.

• 55:40Speaker 02

  Obviously.

• 55:41Stavros Halkias?

  Not in prison, what are some of his negative attributes?

• 55:43Speaker 03

  He's been to jail too. Multiple times.

• 55:49Stavros Halkias?

  He's awesome.

• 55:49Speaker 03

  He's like a guy with a little grit.

• 55:51Stavros Halkias?

  Back to my own clothes, girls. And I think it's time we hit the Stavie's World hotline brought to you by our pals at Visible for some calls. You guys truly, you know what? No one has showed what experts they are and how exactly right they are to give people advice than you two, than the first 50 minutes of this podcast. No one has, no one has done a more authoritative job convincing our listeners that they should heed your word than what we've just experienced.

• 56:19Speaker 02

  I have perfect mental health. Don't forget that. First question.

• 56:22Stavros Halkias?

  Oh, there's no, without further ado, I don't know why we're wasting time. Let's, let's use these two beautiful brains to help our callers.

• 56:28Speaker 02

  And faces.

• 56:29Speaker 03

  And faces and bodies.

• 56:30Stavros Halkias?

  Right. Let's use these two nice brains and pretty good bodies to help our.

• 56:35Speaker 02

  Could have just said beautiful women.

• 56:39Stavros Halkias?

  And so, anyway, go ahead.

• 56:43Speaker 05

  Hi, Scotty. I have been married about 12 years this year.

• 56:49Stavros Halkias?

  Nice.

• 56:49Speaker 05

  Um, when we first got married, I found out my husband had cheated on me with some escort services.

• 56:56Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 56:58Speaker 05

  This was shortly after I gave birth to our first daughter.

• 57:00Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 57:01Stavros Halkias?

  Oof.

• 57:02Speaker 05

  We worked through that. I had another kid.

• 57:04Speaker 02

  We worked through that. We worked through that.

• 57:06Stavros Halkias?

  We worked through that. He's still fucking them.

• 57:09Speaker 05

  Kid. Um, then a few years later, I felt pressured to be in an open marriage, which I didn't want.

• 57:17Speaker 02

  It's me. She's me.

• 57:18Stavros Halkias?

  Jesus Christ, this is brutal. This poor girl. Keep going.

• 57:21Speaker 05

  I did that meeting someone and I did have an affair for about 20 months.

• 57:26Stavros Halkias?

  He wanted you to fuck so he could keep fucking, uh, sex workers. He wanted you to just dick down your fucking...

• 57:32Speaker 03

  I think I left this voicemail. I've been in this exact situation. I'm not kidding.

• 57:37Speaker 02

  So I have two kids, by the way. Both have strep.

• 57:40Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, keep going.

• 57:43Speaker 05

  Affair for about 20 months and I felt really bad about it.

• 57:49Stavros Halkias?

  Wait, wait. Eldis, did we miss something? She did this when she felt she was in an open relationship, right?

• 57:53Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 57:54Speaker 02

  That's not an affair.

• 57:54Speaker 04

  She calls it an affair, but it was after...

• 57:56Stavros Halkias?

  This poor girl, dude.

• 57:57Speaker 03

  There was probably rules and stuff that she broke.

• 57:59Speaker 02

  And she's being manipulated, obviously.

• 58:01Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, but she does, yeah, she feel, even if there were technically rules, like, it is funny. I do have a friend who figured out a way to cheat in an open relationship and it's like, come on.

• 58:10Speaker 03

  That happened to me.

• 58:11Stavros Halkias?

  Really?

• 58:11Speaker 03

  Yeah, because my, because our rule was like, no exes, and then he fucked his ex.

• 58:15Stavros Halkias?

  That's crazy.

• 58:16Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 58:17Stavros Halkias?

  I mean, that's, that's cheating no matter what the circumstances.

• 58:20Speaker 03

  Right, and it just happened to me again recently.

• 58:22Stavros Halkias?

  Oh my God.

• 58:25Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, no, I, I was real off about you being devastated right now. I'm the one wrong, I'm the one reading the situation wrong.

• 58:33Speaker 02

  That sadness you're seeing in her eyes, it's actually joy. So, there's sorrow in my...

• 58:40Stavros Halkias?

  Keep going, Jesus fucking Christ.

• 58:43Speaker 05

  And I felt really bad about it, so I ended up telling my husband.

• 58:47Speaker 03

  Oh my god. Why?

• 58:48Speaker 05

  And he was extremely upset, which surprised me because he wanted an open marriage.

• 58:54Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 58:54Stavros Halkias?

  Oh, so he wanted an open marriage and then she, but they didn't officially do it and so she started an affair.

• 59:00Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 59:00Stavros Halkias?

  I see, I see, I see. Ah, damn, it does hurt that you did something dumb, because you were, you had the upper hand.

• 59:08Speaker 03

  That's the truth. I think that, I think they were in an open relationship and then the affair was that it wasn't just fucking, she was like.

• 59:14Stavros Halkias?

  Oh, okay.

• 59:14Speaker 03

  It was emotional, long term.

• 59:16Stavros Halkias?

  I see, I see, I see, okay.

• 59:19Speaker 05

  And I had figured he was probably cheating on me anyway.

• 59:22Speaker 03

  He was.

• 59:22Speaker 05

  Um, so we're in therapy now.

• 59:25Speaker 03

  Oh my god.

• 59:26Speaker 05

  And we're trying to move forward.

• 59:27Stavros Halkias?

  Damn.

• 59:28Speaker 05

  And the other day, he said that I looked better and I was putting more effort into my appearance when, when I was having an affair.

• 59:41Stavros Halkias?

  Oof.

• 59:41Speaker 05

  And then I don't do that for him anymore. I'm confused because I'm.

• 59:45Stavros Halkias?

  So can you suck off your coworker again? So you hit the elliptical every once in a while?

• 59:50Speaker 03

  I would genuinely, and I'm being serious.

• 59:52Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah.

• 59:53Speaker 03

  Poison and murder this man.

• 59:55Stavros Halkias?

  I mean, that's an, it's funny because I do, again, I guess I see the twisted logic here of being like, hey, you know, while you were cheating, you like cared how you looked. It's like, you clearly liked, it would be nice if you put that effort. Now, if it came from someone who hadn't already cheated on her, hadn't pressured her, like, this is cra- it's a, when you're this guy, you kind of have to be like, alright, she kind of gave me a get out of jail free card.

• 1:00:21Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:00:21Stavros Halkias?

  And I guess that's what he's doing.

• 1:00:22Speaker 03

  That guy's never gonna do that, though.

• 1:00:24Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah.

• 1:00:24Speaker 03

  I dated this guy. They're sick.

• 1:00:27Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, of course.

• 1:00:27Speaker 03

  And they're narcissistic. They're narcissistic.

• 1:00:31Stavros Halkias?

  I mean, if you want to pick it, it's up to you.

• 1:00:34Speaker 02

  I think so. I think so. I think so.

• 1:00:37Stavros Halkias?

  Keep going.

• 1:00:38Speaker 02

  He needs bail money.

• 1:00:39Speaker 03

  It's like, just answer my question.

• 1:00:41Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:00:42Speaker 02

  No, he's a really good guy.

• 1:00:43Speaker 05

  I'm confused because I'm the same size. I wear the same clothes. I'm five eight. I'm a size six to eight.

• 1:00:49Speaker 02

  She's giving us ridiculous.

• 1:00:51Speaker 05

  I know I look good.

• 1:00:52Speaker 02

  Oh my god, I'm gonna cry.

• 1:00:53Speaker 05

  I don't really know what he's trying to say here.

• 1:00:56Stavros Halkias?

  I know, this girl's voice sounds like Steph Curry.

• 1:01:00Speaker 05

  What I should do from here?

• 1:01:01Speaker 02

  It's okay, it's okay.

• 1:01:02Speaker 05

  Is my husband just never satisfied?

• 1:01:04Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, he's a piece of shit, I'm sorry.

• 1:01:05Speaker 05

  Am I never going to be enough for him?

• 1:01:07Stavros Halkias?

  Yes.

• 1:01:07Speaker 02

  Yeah, this is an intrinsically evil man and I get away.

• 1:01:11Speaker 05

  Because I have two kids.

• 1:01:12Stavros Halkias?

  That's a tough part.

• 1:01:13Speaker 03

  This is emotional abuse.

• 1:01:15Speaker 02

  This is abuse, this is abuse.

• 1:01:17Stavros Halkias?

  At the very least, it's a horrible relationship.

• 1:01:19Speaker 03

  Never stay together for the kids. I've never understood that. That's crazy.

• 1:01:21Stavros Halkias?

  It's never worked.

• 1:01:23Speaker 03

  You're not crazy. You're not crazy.

• 1:01:24Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:01:26Speaker 03

  But I get when you're so wrapped up. Sometimes when you've constructed such a story about a relationship to justify why you're still in it, it's really hard to unravel from that.

• 1:01:35Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, I mean, psychologically, that's very true, but also when you have a, these people also just have, logistically, they're bound together.

• 1:01:43Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:01:43Stavros Halkias?

  Two kids, they've, I mean, even just having to get a place, you know what I mean? Like, they probably have a house together and a part, like, your life.

• 1:01:51Speaker 03

  There's like ten steps.

• 1:01:52Stavros Halkias?

  Inertia is so, every layer, every year, you're in a, like, marriage and it just, like, adds a layer of inertia that keeps you in it.

• 1:02:00Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:02:00Stavros Halkias?

  I mean, so, that's clear, that's clearly what she's into. I mean, look, the real answer here is, a guy's cheating on his pregnant wife with escorts?

• 1:02:11Speaker 02

  No, this is a sinister man.

• 1:02:13Stavros Halkias?

  You break up with that guy. Like, you just say, oh, this, I don't want this guy to be like, you know, you gave him a second shot, and then he, you worked through it, you said, and then he clearly tried to, like, he just repackaged.

• 1:02:26Speaker 02

  Cheating.

• 1:02:26Stavros Halkias?

  He's cheating with open relationships.

• 1:02:28Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:02:29Stavros Halkias?

  This is like millennial branding. Like, remember, there's that company Bloom that just, like, put bright colors on Metamucil and was like, it's good for your digestion. And it was just like, what our grandparents used to fucking drink. It's like, that.

• 1:02:40Speaker 02

  I fell for that.

• 1:02:41Stavros Halkias?

  They basically have done that with, open relationships is just millennial rebranding cheating.

• 1:02:46Speaker 03

  It's horrible.

• 1:02:47Stavros Halkias?

  And so, this is, yeah, yeah, it's fucking crazy.

• 1:02:50Speaker 02

  Don't do it!

• 1:02:52Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, no, it's so nuts.

• 1:02:53Speaker 02

  Don't do it. First of all, don't do it.

• 1:02:55Stavros Halkias?

  I think the first time you did the podcast, you were in the depths of that, and just privately, I was just like. Never gonna work. Never gonna work.

• 1:03:04Speaker 03

  And it did it.

• 1:03:05Speaker 02

  And it did it.

• 1:03:06Stavros Halkias?

  And there was, there was literally like 20 minutes of my life where I pitched that to somebody and instantly I felt like a fucking idiot. I was like, no, no, never mind, never mind. I'm so fucking stupid. I'm sorry.

• 1:03:15Speaker 03

  Yeah, it really is like great for men and horrible for women.

• 1:03:18Speaker 02

  Well, yeah.

• 1:03:19Stavros Halkias?

  It's not great for all. I mean, I think usually it's great. It, men think it's gonna be great. I think the, usually what happens in a, in a like marriage that's been established is that the guy thinks it's gonna be awesome. And then he quickly realizes, oh, it's so much easier for a woman to just get, if she wanted to, she could fuck a guy. It's good for certain men.

• 1:03:40Speaker 03

  I think what, what usually ends up happening is the guy, well, men can have sex and compartmentalize it, I think, a lot better.

• 1:03:47Stavros Halkias?

  That's what you mean. You mean like they're, men are more capable of enjoying it.

• 1:03:50Speaker 03

  But then when a woman, and this is what I find in most open relationships, the woman resists, and then she's finally like, fuck, okay, I'll do it because you are. And then they kind of fall in love with someone because that's, because they're fucking them.

• 1:03:59Stavros Halkias?

  They're treating them nice.

• 1:04:00Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:04:00Stavros Halkias?

  Because they're not manipulating them.

• 1:04:01Speaker 03

  But also we fuck someone and then we're like, I love you.

• 1:04:04Speaker 02

  I love, I love you.

• 1:04:05Speaker 03

  I love you. And then the guy's like, what the fuck?

• 1:04:08Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah.

• 1:04:08Speaker 03

  And she's like, well, you fucked 500 people. I fucked one and I fell in love with them.

• 1:04:11Speaker 02

  And then they figure out a way to, be like, no, you cheated by having feelings.

• 1:04:16Stavros Halkias?

  You cheated by having feelings.

• 1:04:17Speaker 02

  Even though I wanted to fuck around.

• 1:04:18Stavros Halkias?

  I was just using women as receptacles.

• 1:04:21Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:04:21Stavros Halkias?

  As jizz, as jizz trash cans.

• 1:04:23Speaker 02

  How dare you do eye contact missionary?

• 1:04:26Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:04:27Stavros Halkias?

  That'd be really funny if there are rules on positions. They're like, you can do missionary, but you have to be wearing sunglasses.

• 1:04:33Speaker 02

  Yeah. And you can do the sideways one, but not doggy.

• 1:04:36Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:04:39Speaker 03

  This, bring back family values.

• 1:04:43Speaker 02

  I'm serious. I think you should kill him. And I know I'm playful with that.

• 1:04:47Stavros Halkias?

  Legally, no one on this podcast is telling you to kill anyone.

• 1:04:50Speaker 02

  I think you should slowly poison him to death.

• 1:04:54Speaker 03

  So no one would ever find out.

• 1:04:55Speaker 02

  I think he sounds like a loser. This is loser behavior. And he sounds ugly.

• 1:04:58Stavros Halkias?

  This is a loser behavior. He might not be ugly. We don't know. He could be ugly.

• 1:05:01Speaker 02

  Sounds ugly.

• 1:05:02Stavros Halkias?

  That's besides the point. The perfect height for a man. Why are we complimenting this guy? I don't understand. But, I mean, is there any more elders? Are we done? So, yeah, I mean, this to me feels-

• 1:05:16Speaker 02

  And don't come to this podcast for that. No, you genuinely sound upset and I think you should go seek professional help.

• 1:05:22Stavros Halkias?

  Well, they're in therapy. But I think, I got, let's be honest.

• 1:05:26Speaker 02

  They're in couples therapy.

• 1:05:27Stavros Halkias?

  Right, right. She needs her own therapist.

• 1:05:28Speaker 02

  Do a little individual.

• 1:05:29Stavros Halkias?

  A hundred percent.

• 1:05:30Speaker 02

  And then also, I think you should get your, this guy's a shithead. I think you should get your kids a really fun whimsical stepdad. Who does your taxes. Who does your taxes, who is, shout out, who is nice to you and only you.

• 1:05:43Stavros Halkias?

  You can fix it, babe.

• 1:05:44Speaker 02

  You can fix it, please. Take my mom back. Please, we miss you. Yeah, I think get away from this evil manipulative man.

• 1:05:54Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, I mean, to me, this is like, look, I do think cheating is bad, but it is something you can get over in a relationship theoretically. But somebody has to really change their, you know.

• 1:06:06Speaker 02

  Don't give her that idea.

• 1:06:07Stavros Halkias?

  Not you.

• 1:06:12Speaker 02

  We need someone with a sort of different constitution.

• 1:06:16Stavros Halkias?

  I think, I think everybody gets, not everybody, but I think it's possible to get, depending on the relationship and depending on personalities and depending on where you are in life, it's definitely possible for, you know, one case of infidelity, depending on, on personalities, for somebody to get over it, right? That's, that's, that's like not, you know, some people, it's a hard line. Some people, it's like, let's figure it out. But when you've already forgiven somebody for a pretty fucked up version of it, like when you're pregnant.

• 1:06:44Speaker 02

  He Khloe Kardashian'd you.

• 1:06:45Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, Lamar, he Lamar'd her. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:06:48Speaker 02

  That was actually a different guy.

• 1:06:49Stavros Halkias?

  Oh, I'm sorry, Tristan.

• 1:06:50Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:06:51Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah, I remember. I know all the basketball players that have cheated on Khloe Kardashian.

• 1:06:57Stavros Halkias?

  From a hoops fan perspective. This is the Venn diagram. Yeah, this is the Venn diagram. You know my Kardashians, I know them from great hilarious photo of him in that hookah bar, by the way. Tristan Thompson.

• 1:07:08Speaker 02

  With the guy, with the girl in his lap?

• 1:07:09Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, I had a basketball podcast at the time, so I covered it, you know, extensively.

• 1:07:13Speaker 02

  I was a journalist at the time.

• 1:07:15Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, I was a journalist at the time.

• 1:07:16Speaker 02

  Wasn't Lamar smoking like crack?

• 1:07:18Stavros Halkias?

  Lamar was on crack, yeah. He was, uh, he like had a stroke in a, in a, at the Las Vegas, not the Vegas, the Cat Ranch, the like in, in wherever Nevada.

• 1:07:30Speaker 02

  Brothel?

• 1:07:30Stavros Halkias?

  The brothel, yeah, yeah. Henderson, is that the town?

• 1:07:33Speaker 02

  Oh, what is that place called?

• 1:07:34Stavros Halkias?

  I don't know.

• 1:07:35Speaker 02

  The Bunny Ranch.

• 1:07:36Stavros Halkias?

  The Bunny Ranch, that's it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh, yes, which if you're gonna have a stroke on your favorite drug, getting your dick sucked by four women, not a bad way.

• 1:07:46Speaker 02

  Cool way to go, but he didn't go.

• 1:07:48Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, he's, he's still around. Shout out to Lamar. Honestly, an incredible, a, a player that was ahead of his time. Uh, a lot of players are playing that way now. He was a, he was a four that had guard skills. And he was, uh, he, Kobe Bryant really got a lot out of him, you know?

• 1:08:04Speaker 02

  Actually, that's actually something we might need to study with Lamar. I need guard skills.

• 1:08:12Stavros Halkias?

  Not that kind of guard. They're not like, not like.

• 1:08:15Speaker 02

  Emotional guards?

• 1:08:16Stavros Halkias?

  No.

• 1:08:16Speaker 02

  Off with his head.

• 1:08:19Stavros Halkias?

  All right, I apologize. Um, anyway, I think like, there's an, I do think, and look, go to couples counseling, go to your own therapist. Have your personal therapist confirm the hunches, uh, three comedians have right now.

• 1:08:34Speaker 02

  Right.

• 1:08:35Stavros Halkias?

  But it re, I would say, if this was a close friend of mine, who you are basically, listen, everybody calls in, you know? I don't know if you're on the pitch or not, but.

• 1:08:46Speaker 02

  Subscribe.

• 1:08:47Stavros Halkias?

  Subscribe, cause you know, I'm about to.

• 1:08:48Speaker 02

  Obviously you can afford it, a couple's therapy.

• 1:08:51Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah, exactly. You'll be, hopefully you'll be getting a nice alimony payment soon, but.

• 1:08:55Speaker 02

  Pretty soon.

• 1:08:56Stavros Halkias?

  I do, if this is my friend, if it was a personal friend of mine, a thousand percent, I'm saying you gotta go.

• 1:09:01Speaker 02

  And also the guy's not gonna change at this point. He's too old and cemented in his ways.

• 1:09:06Stavros Halkias?

  But also, you've kind of let him get away with it, right? It's like, he got away with it once, he, and then he has this weird, and L, you're, they were in an open relationship or they weren't?

• 1:09:17Speaker 04

  She never really clarified one way or another. She said they talked about it.

• 1:09:22Stavros Halkias?

  Cause to me, this maybe sounds like unfortunately, we maybe, she did, she, it's kinda he cheated, then she cheated. So if that's the case, so there's two different, just to cover all our bases. If it was just in, if it was like, you took an open relationship too far, whatever. Whoever, whoever's fault it was, it doesn't seem like it's gonna work, right? Now, if, if you cheated and he didn't. I get why you maybe feel guilt, but I also feel like on some level, this woman wanted to do something bad.

• 1:09:54Speaker 02

  To get out.

• 1:09:55Stavros Halkias?

  So that they, no, no, so that they could be even, so that she could be like, well, now we can be.

• 1:09:59Speaker 03

  I wanna know her star sign.

• 1:10:00Speaker 02

  An eye for an eye.

• 1:10:01Speaker 03

  I wanna know if she's a water sign.

• 1:10:04Speaker 02

  Honestly, up until the open relationship, it's like, okay, an eye for an eye, whatever. But then when he said, you look like shit. That's when you start to slowly poison and kill this man.

• 1:10:13Stavros Halkias?

  Now devil's advocate, right? Let's just, so we've given the, we've given what we think, like this seems like there's a lot of fucked up shit going on. It's probably beyond repair, but again, go to your therapist, you do some real searching, whatever. Devil's advocate, right? He cheats on her, right? He feels fucked with, with, you know, sex workers, so it's like, maybe he, in his twisted ways, like. It's that, it's like, you see those Japanese TikToks where it's like, is cheating with a prostitute? Is it cheating if you fuck a prostitute? And they're like, no, it's a, it's a job, right?

• 1:10:42Speaker 02

  And it is.

• 1:10:43Stavros Halkias?

  In his way, he's thinking, well, I didn't have an affair, she was pregnant, she, I didn't wanna bother her with my sexual desires. I tried to take care of it, it got, I regret it, whatever, we went to therapy. And then, years later, I pitched an open relationship, she told me no. Then behind my back fucks a guy for two years or whatever, she, what did she, how long was it?

• 1:11:04Speaker 02

  Twenty months.

• 1:11:05Stavros Halkias?

  Twenty months.

• 1:11:05Speaker 02

  Twenty months.

• 1:11:06Stavros Halkias?

  You know, pretty close.

• 1:11:07Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:11:08Stavros Halkias?

  And then, and now, he's like, but I still love her. Let's get back into therapy. He feels cucked, cause he literally was, right? Like, in a real way, and like, she had an emotional affair and she was seeing this guy.

• 1:11:22Speaker 03

  You're like three seconds away from calling this woman a bitch.

• 1:11:24Stavros Halkias?

  Well, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just trying to lay it all out, right?

• 1:11:26Speaker 04

  You made your bed, you bitch.

• 1:11:31Stavros Halkias?

  Hold on, Red Pill Sula. Let me finish and then you can take over.

• 1:11:34Speaker 02

  Maybe I can figure out the math on how to make this guy sound awesome.

• 1:11:38Stavros Halkias?

  No, I'm just, I'm just saying like, I'm just giving the two sides here. This is the only way I could, this is what we could be missing potentially is what I'm saying. And then he feels cucked. He's also maybe like, he's the kind of guy who can't really say what he feels emotionally, and that's not an excuse. And maybe this is just his like, because some people say they can, maybe he, unlike her, can't get over the cheating. And so now he's being passive aggressive about it, and he's like, oh, you looked better. You know, he's just lashing out this way, right?

• 1:12:06Speaker 02

  Also, I will say, you do start to zhuzh it up when you have a crush. So she probably was.

• 1:12:11Stavros Halkias?

  By the way, he's love.

• 1:12:13Speaker 03

  At home.

• 1:12:14Stavros Halkias?

  Uh, yeah.

• 1:12:14Speaker 02

  Why is she gonna look good for her ugly, weird, demented little husband who's dying actively from poison?

• 1:12:21Stavros Halkias?

  I know.

• 1:12:22Speaker 02

  You know, like?

• 1:12:23Stavros Halkias?

  Only in your dreams is this man dying from poison.

• 1:12:25Speaker 02

  Like, why would she be hitting SoulCycle?

• 1:12:28Stavros Halkias?

  Well, I guess the, the argument would be because they're in a loving relationship and you want to look better for your partner.

• 1:12:34Speaker 02

  They're not, they're not.

• 1:12:35Stavros Halkias?

  But that's, I, I'm just trying to lay it out here. Elsie, do you want to take a fully Red Pill, Red Pill take or no?

• 1:12:41Speaker 04

  Not really.

• 1:12:41Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah.

• 1:12:42Speaker 04

  There's just really no scenario where like, even if she technically cheated or whatever, he's just a bad guy.

• 1:12:49Stavros Halkias?

  Well.

• 1:12:49Speaker 03

  We haven't heard his side of the story.

• 1:12:52Stavros Halkias?

  And that's exactly.

• 1:12:53Speaker 04

  But I, I know what you're saying. Like, yes, maybe, maybe on the technicality, she did cheat or something.

• 1:12:59Stavros Halkias?

  I mean, she did cheat. She said herself.

• 1:13:00Speaker 02

  But once you're basing a relationship off technicalities, you know it's, you're in a bad zone. Yeah, you're in a bad zone.

• 1:13:06Stavros Halkias?

  That's the thing. No matter which of the two scenarios it is, it doesn't seem like it's gonna work.

• 1:13:11Speaker 02

  It doesn't sound good. Even at the very least, like, you're not keeping up with yourself in your relationship, means you just don't fucking care.

• 1:13:18Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah. And let alone, we hear how, her, how she sounds.

• 1:13:21Speaker 02

  Yeah, you sound heartbroken.

• 1:13:22Stavros Halkias?

  She's fucking sad as shit.

• 1:13:23Speaker 02

  She sounds sad.

• 1:13:23Stavros Halkias?

  So, I don't know, dog. We, you know, we laid it all out. It doesn't seem good. Again, conf- do some soul searching, confirm these hunches with a mental health professional that's just yours, not your couples therapist, and go from there. But my, you know, good luck.

• 1:13:38Speaker 02

  Support you no matter what.

• 1:13:39Speaker 03

  Girls always do that. Girls are like, you have to break up with him. It's abusive. But support you no matter what. No matter what. Whatever you do, I support you.

• 1:13:47Speaker 02

  We're still getting drinks on Friday, okay?

• 1:13:52Speaker 02

  Wow, that was very serious in a way I wasn't expecting.

• 1:13:55Stavros Halkias?

  That's how this show goes. We make fun of them a little bit and then we give some real wisdom.

• 1:14:00Speaker 06

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• 1:15:15Speaker 02

  Beautiful.

• 1:15:16Stavros Halkias?

  Bring the temperature down a little here. Okay, what else we got, Elvis?

• 1:15:19Speaker 07

  Hey, it's Tommy Baby, Elvis, esteemed guest. I've been kind of sitting on this, uh...

• 1:15:24Speaker 02

  Esteemed.

• 1:15:25Speaker 07

  I don't think so much questions, but, uh, I guess I wanted to get your opinion on this. So I'm an avid collector of like action figures, statues, things like that.

• 1:15:35Stavros Halkias?

  Relax.

• 1:15:36Speaker 02

  I like that.

• 1:15:37Speaker 07

  Being a married man now, I'm kind of frowned upon, you know, buying all this stuff.

• 1:15:41Stavros Halkias?

  Is this Greg Stone?

• 1:15:46Speaker 07

  Frowned upon, you know, buying all this stuff. My wife likes to save money, you know, thinks about the future. Me, not so much, but I'm on board with this. And, and we do pretty good. We're not like living paycheck to paycheck or anything. We're pretty good with our finances. But I've managed to, uh...

• 1:16:06Stavros Halkias?

  I want to get an $8,000 Grogu, baby Yoda. But our daughter needs braces.

• 1:16:12Speaker 02

  What do you think I should do?

• 1:16:15Speaker 07

  Sort of... Hide money from her without her realizing, which I used to buy set collectibles.

• 1:16:23Speaker 07

  Like on the day she's working, when I'm at the house before her.

• 1:16:27Stavros Halkias?

  Hilarious.

• 1:16:28Speaker 07

  And I am able to achieve like my collectibles without her knowing. And since I have so much stuff as it is, she doesn't really realize if I get something new.

• 1:16:39Stavros Halkias?

  So you're lying to your wife?

• 1:16:40Speaker 02

  And you're hoarding figurines.

• 1:16:43Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah.

• 1:16:45Speaker 07

  Pay attention to my collection.

• 1:16:48Stavros Halkias?

  So you're damaging the trust in your marriage to acquire Dragon Ball Z figurines.

• 1:16:52Speaker 02

  Which I get.

• 1:16:53Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah, okay. We're just, let's just establish that. Keep going.

• 1:16:58Speaker 07

  Is it, is it bad that I'm hiding money from her and spending it on this stuff? Because when I compare it to what my dad used to do and he would hide money from my mom.

• 1:17:07Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, my dad cheated. It's like, I can't be like, well, my.

• 1:17:10Speaker 02

  Steph, tap in. He's like, when I compare it to Hitler killing all those Jews. It's not that bad.

• 1:17:20Stavros Halkias?

  Dude, that's hilarious to be like, compared to my dad. My dad hit my, I barely hit my wife.

• 1:17:27Speaker 02

  Only when she looks through my figurines.

• 1:17:29Stavros Halkias?

  Only she takes something out of the packaging and thus decreasing its value.

• 1:17:36Speaker 07

  Is it, is it bad that I'm hiding money from her and spending it on this stuff? Because when I compare it to what my dad used to do and he would hide money from my mom and go out with mister and stuff, you know, like.

• 1:17:49Speaker 02

  Right, so it's a pattern.

• 1:17:50Speaker 07

  I feel like I'm not doing bad, so to speak.

• 1:17:53Stavros Halkias?

  Compared to him, you're not.

• 1:17:54Speaker 07

  I'd like to get your opinion on this. Thank you.

• 1:17:56Stavros Halkias?

  Well, this is like, this is kind of like how, you know, even like a fucking Chihuahua used to be a wolf. You know what I mean? Like your dad, like his dad.

• 1:18:06Speaker 02

  Yeah, in terms of breeding.

• 1:18:07Stavros Halkias?

  You know what I mean? It's like, yes, you have been, the viciousness has been bred out of you. Although Chihuahua is maybe, maybe a cockad, a poodle or whatever the fuck. Just some white fluffy dog. I don't fucking know. What's, what's one of those, you know, a Bichon Frise?

• 1:18:20Speaker 02

  I'm trying to, uh, I don't.

• 1:18:21Speaker 03

  I didn't grow up with money, so I don't know these, what these small dogs are.

• 1:18:24Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, that's true. That's true. You see Europeans don't consider dogs pets. They, they all live outside. I actually am the same way.

• 1:18:31Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:18:31Stavros Halkias?

  Uh, but basically what I'm saying is you've bred out the viciousness from these traits, right? Like you're not, but you're still being dishonest to your wife. And it's like, look.

• 1:18:43Stavros Halkias?

  You're hiding it because she wouldn't want this to happen. Like you're just doing something.

• 1:18:47Speaker 03

  Wait, where is he getting this money from?

• 1:18:49Stavros Halkias?

  He's just socking away a little bit of his own personal money.

• 1:18:52Speaker 03

  For figurines?

• 1:18:52Speaker 02

  It's giving offshore accounts.

• 1:18:54Speaker 03

  It's giving autism. I mean, it sounds like he has autism, right?

• 1:18:57Stavros Halkias?

  Or yeah, he's just a, he's just, yeah.

• 1:18:59Speaker 02

  He's calling into this podcast.

• 1:19:04Stavros Halkias?

  I, yeah, I think.

• 1:19:06Speaker 04

  There's something, there's something super interesting about the phrase he keeps repeating, hiding money, which I've never heard it like, that's just, that's just something.

• 1:19:14Speaker 03

  It sounds like he's sending a few dollars and putting it under his mattress and being like.

• 1:19:17Speaker 02

  When she's not home.

• 1:19:18Stavros Halkias?

  Well, this is clear, you know why, Elders? It's probably because this, and even the, because he's thinking of it in terms of his father. His father probably literally hid money.

• 1:19:27Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:19:27Stavros Halkias?

  Like, under the fucking mat. Like, how many foreigners do you know? My, you know what I mean? Like, my, my parents had fucking money in like a, in a fucking sock drawer and shit like that. I'm sure your parents had like a little rainy day cash. That's some real like foreigner shit. I, and, and he clearly can only think of his relationship to his wife through the paradigm of his parents.

• 1:19:46Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:19:46Stavros Halkias?

  So I think that's why he's repeating that phrase, right?

• 1:19:49Speaker 02

  He's like so smart.

• 1:19:50Speaker 03

  It's like crazy.

• 1:19:51Stavros Halkias?

  I'm not that, I'm really not that smart.

• 1:19:52Speaker 03

  No, the thing about you is that you're absolutely so cute and smart when you do this part. And you're like so.

• 1:20:02Speaker 03

  And you're gonna be like, yeah, shit. Genuine advice.

• 1:20:06Stavros Halkias?

  I do like giving.

• 1:20:07Speaker 03

  Freud would look at this through the lens of Lacan.

• 1:20:09Stavros Halkias?

  I've, that's the thing. I know how to maybe sound, I'm just good at talking, so my dumb ideas, I can package them. But I just think, I think that like you gotta free yourself of that. Just cause you're dead, you're not as big, just cause you're a minor piece of shit compared to your dad, doesn't mean you're not being a piece of shit. Like, would you be mad if your wife was like, taking, hiding away? If you agreed to share all your stuff and she was like.

• 1:20:34Speaker 03

  Buying peptides?

• 1:20:35Stavros Halkias?

  Buying, yeah, buying NAD.

• 1:20:37Speaker 03

  He's like, she looks amazing though.

• 1:20:38Stavros Halkias?

  Um, yeah.

• 1:20:39Speaker 03

  She looks amazing.

• 1:20:40Speaker 02

  Yeah, you're just lying is the truth of the matter.

• 1:20:42Speaker 03

  Having figurines is embarrassing.

• 1:20:44Stavros Halkias?

  It is embarrassing, but.

• 1:20:45Speaker 02

  At least your dad was cool and was spending it on sex and hookers.

• 1:20:49Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah. Your dad sounds fucking cool.

• 1:20:52Speaker 02

  My type of guy.

• 1:20:54Speaker 03

  I would rather if I found out my boyfriend was hiding money, I'd go, please tell me you're spending it on prostitutes.

• 1:20:59Speaker 02

  Please tell me it was hookers.

• 1:21:00Speaker 03

  Please tell me you're using it to fuck.

• 1:21:02Speaker 02

  Please tell me it was hookers.

• 1:21:03Speaker 03

  And then I open the closet, I'm like.

• 1:21:04Stavros Halkias?

  I'm actually entering a go-kart derby. And I'm using it, I'm using it to make it more aerodynamic.

• 1:21:09Speaker 02

  It's just a bunch of plastic yokai.

• 1:21:13Speaker 02

  And a katana.

• 1:21:14Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, ooh, not bad.

• 1:21:16Speaker 02

  Yeah, pretty cool.

• 1:21:17Stavros Halkias?

  So, look dude, I just think two things are here, two things are going on here. A is the like, clearly you're thinking of everything through the way your parents' relationship was, which is how everybody starts, right?

• 1:21:28Speaker 03

  Right.

• 1:21:29Stavros Halkias?

  That's the kind of the ba-, you're talking about Freud, that's kind of the basis of like, psychology, you know, arm, especially our little armchair psychology we're doing here. But also you're embarrassed of your fucking little hobby.

• 1:21:41Speaker 02

  That's what it is.

• 1:21:42Stavros Halkias?

  And it's, and, and I would say, don't be embarrassed, that's the thing, you gotta free yourself of the embarrassment. Look, you're a fucking grown man, you're in a nice marriage, you're not gonna, as much as we do think your dad is cooler, it's better to not be cool when you're like 50 and married.

• 1:21:57Speaker 02

  You're a good guy.

• 1:21:58Stavros Halkias?

  You wanna be a good guy, you wanna be a good dad, you wanna be a good husband.

• 1:22:01Speaker 03

  He's a good guy.

• 1:22:02Speaker 02

  Right, sorry.

• 1:22:02Stavros Halkias?

  I assume he is, he's, he's a little.

• 1:22:04Speaker 03

  At the end, the last thing in the voicemail, he's like, I'm also beating my wife.

• 1:22:09Speaker 03

  With my figure.

• 1:22:11Stavros Halkias?

  So, so yeah dude, I think you have to free yourself of your shame for your little hobby. It's fine, it's, it's fine to, you know, it's, it actually is, the reality is, and something I am struggling with, is like, there is a moment in someone's life where it is not cool to get pussy as a man. Like when you're like,

• 1:22:31Speaker 02

  The shift.

• 1:22:32Stavros Halkias?

  When you're like 40, 50, like, how many fucking pathetic old comedians do we know?

• 1:22:36Speaker 02

  Scary, it's actually.

• 1:22:37Stavros Halkias?

  Maybe some, some of them are, maybe those are some of the DMs you're talking about.

• 1:22:42Stavros Halkias?

  But like, when you're like a 50-year-old guy with fucking like, veneers and plugs being, and trying to fuck a 22-year-old, that's sad, right? It actually, being a dork who provides for his family and like, doesn't do anything fucked up, that is in your, that's good, that actually is what being a good guy is. That is cooler in the grand sense.

• 1:23:04Speaker 02

  Me taking notes?

• 1:23:05Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, Steph.

• 1:23:07Speaker 02

  Write that down.

• 1:23:07Stavros Halkias?

  You shouldn't date drug addicts. Just because your dad was one doesn't mean you have to recreate the cycle.

• 1:23:15Speaker 02

  Cycles and patterns and stuff.

• 1:23:18Stavros Halkias?

  Stop being forced into open relationships at gunpoint.

• 1:23:22Speaker 02

  I never thought of that.

• 1:23:23Stavros Halkias?

  By guys that probably weren't that good to begin with, if we're being honest. I don't know, I'm just guessing.

• 1:23:27Speaker 02

  No, they're not.

• 1:23:28Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah.

• 1:23:30Stavros Halkias?

  I don't know these guys, I'm just, I can call it an educated hunch, but. So, so you just have to just stop, stop lying to your wife and just be like, and just look at this as any other hobby and just look at this as any other budgeting thing.

• 1:23:44Speaker 02

  Be a dork.

• 1:23:45Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah.

• 1:23:46Speaker 02

  Being a dork is cute and snackable and fun.

• 1:23:50Speaker 03

  Shame is a low-frequency emotion.

• 1:23:51Stavros Halkias?

  Okay. I've heard of, so high-frequency is good.

• 1:23:56Speaker 03

  High-frequency is good.

• 1:23:57Stavros Halkias?

  Vibration, high vibration.

• 1:23:58Speaker 02

  You want to be vibrating.

• 1:23:59Speaker 03

  You want to be vibrating high and then you manifest you're at the same vibration as manifesting vibration.

• 1:24:04Stavros Halkias?

  Interesting, oh.

• 1:24:05Speaker 02

  It's magical.

• 1:24:06Stavros Halkias?

  So if you're not at the right vibration, you're, you're manifesting.

• 1:24:10Speaker 03

  Well, because you attract what you are. So if you're shameful, you're going to attract shameful situations, embarrassment, shame, jealousy.

• 1:24:17Speaker 02

  Life is a mirror.

• 1:24:18Speaker 03

  That's, that's bad.

• 1:24:19Speaker 02

  You understand.

• 1:24:20Speaker 03

  You want to be happy and then good things happen, you are what you see.

• 1:24:23Stavros Halkias?

  Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha. Okay, interesting, interesting.

• 1:24:27Speaker 02

  I also love a person with figurines. My mom was also a figurine person. I love, I love a little fucking weirdo.

• 1:24:33Stavros Halkias?

  Like little glass ones?

• 1:24:35Speaker 02

  Not Star Wars, but Star Trek.

• 1:24:37Stavros Halkias?

  Star Trek, really?

• 1:24:38Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:24:39Stavros Halkias?

  Mom, your mom was a nerd.

• 1:24:40Speaker 02

  My mom's a total nerd.

• 1:24:41Stavros Halkias?

  Cool.

• 1:24:41Speaker 02

  I'm also a total nerd. I like fantasy. I like, I like someone who has a little thing and like, it has to stay in the box because it's, you don't want to get it scratched.

• 1:24:49Speaker 03

  The blonde extensions fool you.

• 1:24:50Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:24:51Speaker 02

  I think it's fun. I think being a dork is cool.

• 1:24:53Stavros Halkias?

  Tell people about that more. I think it would make you more likeable.

• 1:24:57Speaker 02

  Was me saying I have perfect mental health not likable?

• 1:25:02Speaker 03

  Are we the most unlikable girls in college?

• 1:25:05Speaker 02

  I thought everyone liked us, but I'm having a real reality check.

• 1:25:08Stavros Halkias?

  You're here dumbasses. I like you, but it is, that's very endearing actually that you're into dorky shit.

• 1:25:13Speaker 02

  Yeah, I like fantasy. I like creatures. I like magic.

• 1:25:16Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah.

• 1:25:17Speaker 02

  So I think that's cool. That's in, I can LARP.

• 1:25:21Speaker 03

  Stage combat.

• 1:25:22Speaker 02

  I can LARP.

• 1:25:23Stavros Halkias?

  What kind of LARP are you? Do you go elf or is that too on the nose?

• 1:25:26Speaker 02

  I could do sword and I could do little knives.

• 1:25:27Stavros Halkias?

  Little knives is cool.

• 1:25:28Speaker 02

  And then I could do nothing.

• 1:25:29Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:25:31Speaker 02

  Just hand to hand. I could do sort of magic. Yeah.

• 1:25:34Stavros Halkias?

  Doing this shit?

• 1:25:35Speaker 02

  Yeah, this.

• 1:25:37Stavros Halkias?

  Did you ever, did you have, do you have like a character that you do?

• 1:25:40Speaker 02

  No, but.

• 1:25:41Stavros Halkias?

  Did you ever LARP?

• 1:25:43Speaker 03

  No, but we went to the Renaissance Fair.

• 1:25:45Speaker 02

  We went to the Renaissance Fair.

• 1:25:46Speaker 03

  And it was the best day of our lives.

• 1:25:47Stavros Halkias?

  That sounds fun, yeah.

• 1:25:48Speaker 02

  And I still have the ears and sometimes I wear them on Zoom meetings.

• 1:25:50Stavros Halkias?

  Hell, yeah.

• 1:25:51Speaker 03

  It was real. That was the best day of my life, genuinely.

• 1:25:53Speaker 02

  I think people should be more immersed in the magic realm.

• 1:25:57Stavros Halkias?

  So you, you're, you went elf ears?

• 1:25:59Speaker 02

  I'm an elf ears sort of warrior elf.

• 1:26:02Speaker 03

  She went warrior elf.

• 1:26:03Stavros Halkias?

  And you did witch?

• 1:26:04Speaker 03

  I did ouch.

• 1:26:05Stavros Halkias?

  Sorceress?

• 1:26:05Speaker 03

  I went.

• 1:26:06Speaker 02

  That's exactly right. She did sort of a dark sorceress.

• 1:26:09Speaker 03

  I did fae, which is a dark fairy.

• 1:26:11Stavros Halkias?

  Oh, cool. Do you have wings?

• 1:26:12Speaker 02

  That's actually, a fae is not a dark fairy. A fae is just a shortened term for fairy.

• 1:26:21Speaker 02

  So don't, you know, that's not the truth.

• 1:26:24Stavros Halkias?

  Let's put a pin in this.

• 1:26:26Speaker 03

  But I was, but I was.

• 1:26:27Stavros Halkias?

  You were a dark fae. Cool. That's cool.

• 1:26:29Speaker 03

  It was so fun.

• 1:26:30Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, that sounds awesome.

• 1:26:31Speaker 03

  I've never felt more beautiful than I did in those elf ears.

• 1:26:34Speaker 02

  There's a real freedom to being a dork and I think you, being shameful of that is something you really need to dissolve. Because being a dork is hot, famously.

• 1:26:44Stavros Halkias?

  Okay.

• 1:26:44Speaker 02

  And your wife already knew you were a dork.

• 1:26:46Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah.

• 1:26:46Speaker 02

  Also, your wife has looked through all your shit.

• 1:26:49Speaker 03

  Yeah, wait, is there a secret? Did he say there's a secret drawer? Like where is he hiding all these figurines?

• 1:26:53Stavros Halkias?

  No, he's just saying that she doesn't really give a fuck about this or she doesn't know when like a new fucking.

• 1:26:58Speaker 03

  She's not blocking how much money he's putting towards it.

• 1:27:00Speaker 02

  That means that she doesn't fucking care. So just tell her you want a new $109.

• 1:27:05Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah.

• 1:27:05Speaker 02

  Woman with big tits.

• 1:27:07Stavros Halkias?

  Oh, that sounds cool.

• 1:27:08Speaker 02

  You know what I'm talking about?

• 1:27:09Stavros Halkias?

  And that's a figurine or what is that? Cause if I could buy one of those for $109.

• 1:27:13Speaker 03

  You're talking about his dad. You're talking about his dad.

• 1:27:15Speaker 02

  That was his dad.

• 1:27:18Stavros Halkias?

  $109, not a bad rate.

• 1:27:20Speaker 03

  You want to marry a dork. You want to marry a dork.

• 1:27:22Stavros Halkias?

  That's the best case scenario is to marry a dork.

• 1:27:24Speaker 03

  A fanatic of sorts.

• 1:27:26Stavros Halkias?

  Somebody who's into their thing, they're not fucking like, you know, they're not.

• 1:27:28Speaker 03

  They don't have a wandering eye.

• 1:27:29Stavros Halkias?

  Totally, totally, because they're trying to get a new, they're, what their, their eye is focused on the new Boba Fett's coming out.

• 1:27:34Speaker 03

  It's sad.

• 1:27:35Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:27:36Stavros Halkias?

  So, yeah, dude, this is actually, it's not a big deal. It's cute that this is your biggest problem in your marriage.

• 1:27:41Speaker 03

  It's actually so cute.

• 1:27:42Stavros Halkias?

  And all you have to do is start telling your wife, like, hey, I want to buy, just run it by, I mean, you're not exactly, it's more that you think you're lying. It's like, would she even give a fuck? I guess that's the other thing. What is your situation? Do you guys just say, oh, we put all our money together? Do you keep your own stuff? Like, does she have her own account for, for like shit that she wants? Are you guys, is she like a, this is more of a problem. She's like one of those people that really strictly budgets? And it's very important to her.

• 1:28:09Speaker 03

  Or if they're like broke, like we don't know.

• 1:28:11Speaker 02

  But he said he wasn't living paycheck to paycheck and they do good. So I think it's actually.

• 1:28:16Speaker 04

  He also said, being a married man now, it's kind of frowned upon, which makes me think he is getting a little energy from her that it's like, all right, enough of these fucking.

• 1:28:25Speaker 02

  Oh, he's too old for it.

• 1:28:26Speaker 04

  Enough of these fucking toys.

• 1:28:27Stavros Halkias?

  But also, it could be that he made, again, some of this is soul searching. Are you overdoing it?

• 1:28:33Speaker 02

  Are you spending $10,000 a month?

• 1:28:35Stavros Halkias?

  Is this every week?

• 1:28:36Speaker 03

  Yeah, we need more information.

• 1:28:37Stavros Halkias?

  You know what I mean? Like, or you're just like having one awesome one that you really like. You know what I'm saying?

• 1:28:42Speaker 02

  Or what you can do, because you have kids, is you could disguise your. Do they have kids?

• 1:28:48Stavros Halkias?

  I think that was the last call.

• 1:28:49Speaker 03

  I don't think they have kids.

• 1:28:50Stavros Halkias?

  I didn't hear kids.

• 1:28:50Speaker 03

  I don't know how old these people are.

• 1:28:51Speaker 02

  Oh, I was going to say you could disguise this addiction by buying things for the kid.

• 1:28:55Stavros Halkias?

  More lying.

• 1:28:56Speaker 03

  More lies.

• 1:28:58Speaker 02

  Sort of a lie on a lie.

• 1:29:00Speaker 03

  A Russian nesting dog.

• 1:29:01Speaker 02

  But I also get this in terms of like, I buy a lot of things from Amazon and I feel embarrassed when my neighbors see all my packages.

• 1:29:07Stavros Halkias?

  Well, consumerism is embarrassing, right? And like, looking for happiness in things is embarrassing. But building a collection that you like, that you like, that you take some, you know, that, that these are things that have some sentimental value to you. It's, that's, you know.

• 1:29:22Speaker 03

  Within reason, within reason.

• 1:29:23Stavros Halkias?

  Being into stuff within reason, I think. There needs to be some middle ground here where probably you have to put a limit on yourself. Cause doing it in the shadows means that you're going crazy, right? This is, he's kind of getting the thrill of an affair by buying a new, you know what I'm saying?

• 1:29:39Speaker 03

  By having secrets.

• 1:29:40Stavros Halkias?

  It's a little bit of a, so it's like, just put it out in the open, talk to your wife and be like, hey, I fucking love doing this. I don't do anything else. Like, can, I just want, what's an acceptable amount? Let's actually work through our finances and see what's the amount I can, that you would be comfortable with me spending a month.

• 1:29:57Speaker 03

  Chachki budget.

• 1:29:58Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, give me a chachki budget. She doesn't want to know day to day what it is.

• 1:30:01Speaker 03

  I want that on a t-shirt so bad.

• 1:30:03Stavros Halkias?

  Chachki budget?

• 1:30:03Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:30:05Stavros Halkias?

  That could be your new S corp, the good one.

• 1:30:07Speaker 03

  Chachki budget.

• 1:30:09Stavros Halkias?

  Chachki budget productions. You can do, you can do two productions, multiple productions.

• 1:30:14Speaker 03

  Multiple chachkis.

• 1:30:15Stavros Halkias?

  Um, yeah, I think this isn't that big a deal, right?

• 1:30:18Speaker 03

  I think you're totally cute.

• 1:30:19Stavros Halkias?

  It's cute. It is an adorable problem to have. What else? We got little Eldons?

• 1:30:24Speaker 03

  I really want to know.

• 1:30:24Speaker 05

  Hi, Tommy. Hi, Eldis. Hi, Esteem. Just, um, short story long, I am 27. I'm in my first year of law school, about two and a second. Um, haven't had a real boyfriend in a couple of years. And I am finally seeing someone I, I may be a little excited about. And I'm wondering what you guys think the appropriate length of time? And kind of general progression is towards arriving in boyfriend town? When do you think, like, you should like somebody enough to know that it's boyfriend time?

• 1:31:06Speaker 05

  And also like, you know, hypothetically, if potential boyfriend in question was like 38 and not in his late twenties like me, how would that affect your thought process?

• 1:31:20Stavros Halkias?

  Well, it's either, that's either really good news or really bad news. He's either, he's either excited to have a girlfriend or he's got Peter Pan type shit.

• 1:31:28Speaker 03

  I will say, I think both you and I know immediately upon meeting someone if they're gonna be our boyfriend.

• 1:31:31Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's like a third eye situation where you close your eyes, open your third, and you could tell.

• 1:31:36Speaker 03

  You go, yeah. And I don't know if that's healthy.

• 1:31:39Stavros Halkias?

  When you say immediately, you mean first date? Or you mean like the second you lay eyes on them?

• 1:31:43Speaker 03

  You could sort of just scan a soul.

• 1:31:45Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:31:46Speaker 03

  I almost, for me, it's not even like, it's not even like what I want. It's what I know I'm destined for.

• 1:31:52Stavros Halkias?

  Jesus Christ.

• 1:31:53Speaker 02

  It's more of like whispers from beyond the veil.

• 1:31:55Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:31:56Stavros Halkias?

  No, just because you fucking, just because you've wrapped up helplessness and fucking spirituality bullshit. Take some fucking agency over your lives, Jesus Christ. I want better for both of you.

• 1:32:07Speaker 02

  I have agents to do the agency, thank you.

• 1:32:11Stavros Halkias?

  In your personal life, you have a, you have a fucking, you have a relationship agent?

• 1:32:16Speaker 02

  I think you know immediately if this man is going to be your boyfriend. And then slowly you collect data. And then once you have enough data to determine if the equation makes sense.

• 1:32:29Speaker 03

  Plus, he's old.

• 1:32:30Stavros Halkias?

  Right.

• 1:32:31Speaker 03

  So like, it should actually, he should be like trying to lock it down faster.

• 1:32:34Speaker 02

  If he's not locking it down fast.

• 1:32:36Stavros Halkias?

  Well, as a 37-year-old man who, uh, I, it depends what state of his life. Maybe he's really busy right now. Maybe hypothetically, he's on.

• 1:32:46Speaker 02

  There's nothing worse than when a man goes, I'm really busy right now.

• 1:32:51Speaker 03

  What are you doing gay shit? Why are you so fucking busy?

• 1:32:55Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, I mean, yeah.

• 1:32:56Speaker 03

  Sorry, work's been crazy right now.

• 1:32:58Speaker 02

  I'm planning on getting married when I'm 49.

• 1:33:00Stavros Halkias?

  That did, I will say, I used to say I was too busy. And now I'm like, oh, this is being too busy. I don't, I'm never in New York. I have like four different jobs. Now I actually am like, I can't. But when I was like.

• 1:33:12Speaker 03

  But when a guy really likes a girl, he will, he will make time.

• 1:33:17Stavros Halkias?

  That's a good point.

• 1:33:18Speaker 03

  If he really likes her.

• 1:33:19Stavros Halkias?

  Fly him everywhere, Jesus. You really do believe in yourself a lot.

• 1:33:23Speaker 03

  No, I'm talking about you.

• 1:33:24Stavros Halkias?

  Oh, me, yeah, yeah, I would, yeah, that's actually, well.

• 1:33:26Speaker 03

  Are you flying girls out?

• 1:33:28Stavros Halkias?

  Uh, currently, no, I literally do. I mean, I also have a broken arm and a pinched disc.

• 1:33:33Speaker 03

  Well, you're not gonna fly the plane. Excuses, excuses, excuses.

• 1:33:36Stavros Halkias?

  Can I fucking heal from my injuries before I get a?

• 1:33:39Speaker 02

  I have a peptide for that.

• 1:33:42Stavros Halkias?

  No, but I do think we are both right. Where I like, yes, that is if you really wanted to, I suppose you could. I mean, it's just a matter of your, also your psychology and all this other shit, whatever. But yeah, that's why I said in the beginning, it's either great because he's gonna wanna lock it down. Yeah. Or it's bad in that he has, he's a, maybe he's an air sign. You know, that could be a real problem. I just have to talk to them in ways they understand.

• 1:34:12Speaker 03

  We both really took a moment there too.

• 1:34:18Speaker 03

  Air. Air? Okay.

• 1:34:20Speaker 04

  If you ask him and he starts talking about what sign he is, that's a pretty bad sign.

• 1:34:24Speaker 03

  He's ran through.

• 1:34:25Stavros Halkias?

  If he knows it was born. Saturday 6 a.m. Then yeah, he is, shit's not going good.

• 1:34:32Speaker 02

  I think as someone who has rushed into so many things in this life. In terms of men, I think take your, take your time.

• 1:34:39Speaker 03

  Take your time.

• 1:34:40Speaker 02

  Take your time.

• 1:34:40Speaker 03

  Because actually, this is the best part. It only gets worse after this.

• 1:34:44Speaker 02

  Well, that's not true, but.

• 1:34:46Stavros Halkias?

  Hopefully not. I mean, as of now for you.

• 1:34:48Speaker 03

  I just think when you're like falling for someone and you're like, what is it?

• 1:34:51Stavros Halkias?

  Of course, the first month when you're kind of figuring it out is awesome.

• 1:34:53Speaker 03

  And you're being love bombed.

• 1:34:55Speaker 02

  Oof, I love getting love bombed.

• 1:34:58Speaker 03

  I love me a love bomb.

• 1:35:00Speaker 02

  I don't understand why that's bad.

• 1:35:03Speaker 03

  Never understood it.

• 1:35:05Stavros Halkias?

  Yep, yep.

• 1:35:06Speaker 02

  Feels good every fucking time.

• 1:35:08Speaker 03

  If you're watching this, we wanna be love bombed.

• 1:35:10Speaker 02

  Please, please. Yeah, I think take your time, you're in escuela, you're learning, you know, like.

• 1:35:16Stavros Halkias?

  Well, but you, okay, so you've given this woman contradictory advice. You've said either you will know the moment you see him.

• 1:35:22Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:35:23Stavros Halkias?

  And now it's take your fucking time? There's gotta be, so let's give her some concrete advice of like, so I know what you mean though, where you're like, this is somebody that you know of on a first date where this person has the prospect of becoming a boy. If they qualify for potential boyfriends.

• 1:35:40Speaker 03

  Well, I also wanna know what she's really asking, because if she's asking, it feels like she really likes him. And I'm curious of what she's actually asking is, he hasn't stated that he wants a relationship yet. How long is it appropriate for me to wait for the guy to bring it up?

• 1:35:54Stavros Halkias?

  Right.

• 1:35:55Speaker 03

  Because this feels like a conundrum every woman is in all the time, which is you meet a guy, the woman kind of knows quicker than the guy's gonna try to stay single as long as possible. How long do you wait for the guy to?

• 1:36:05Stavros Halkias?

  Right, right.

• 1:36:06Speaker 03

  And that's like, questions that have been asked by Aristotle and me today at brunch. So.

• 1:36:12Speaker 02

  Aristotleina.

• 1:36:13Speaker 03

  Aristotleina, me.

• 1:36:16Speaker 03

  So, I don't know. And also let me know if you figure it out.

• 1:36:21Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah.

• 1:36:21Speaker 02

  I'm gonna put a time on it, two months.

• 1:36:24Stavros Halkias?

  Two months, and then what, she has the conversation?

• 1:36:26Speaker 02

  Then you have a conversation at two months.

• 1:36:28Speaker 03

  If he doesn't know by two months.

• 1:36:29Speaker 02

  Active dating, after two months, you could be like, so what's going on here?

• 1:36:33Stavros Halkias?

  And what are you, you seeing each other once a week, or what are we talking about in two months? Is it like a real?

• 1:36:37Speaker 03

  You're living together by that point already.

• 1:36:39Speaker 02

  At this point, I'm like filing for divorce.

• 1:36:41Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:36:43Speaker 03

  Yeah, if he dates a guy then moves in immediately.

• 1:36:46Stavros Halkias?

  That's awesome. I like that.

• 1:36:48Speaker 02

  When it works, it works.

• 1:36:49Stavros Halkias?

  So never?

• 1:36:54Speaker 02

  Hey, I'm dating a guy who was once in jail.

• 1:36:57Stavros Halkias?

  Did we ever find out if he's team?

• 1:36:59Speaker 02

  He said jail, Cullen.

• 1:37:01Stavros Halkias?

  Cullen, nice. That's the right one.

• 1:37:04Speaker 03

  Right answer.

• 1:37:04Stavros Halkias?

  Right answer.

• 1:37:05Speaker 03

  Right answer.

• 1:37:05Stavros Halkias?

  He asked why?

• 1:37:06Speaker 02

  Yeah. No reason.

• 1:37:08Stavros Halkias?

  Oh, jail's not as bad as prison. Oh, she's not a bad, he's fine, I mean, prison's fine. Our, our, our fucking, uh, system is a fucking nightmare, our criminal justice system is a nightmare.

• 1:37:19Speaker 02

  I would date anyone in jail or prison.

• 1:37:22Stavros Halkias?

  Well, I wouldn't go that far.

• 1:37:24Speaker 02

  Running on what you did.

• 1:37:25Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah. But, I do think we can offer two, the two perspectives on this issue, actually. And yeah, I think you're probably on the money where it's like, I would say even a little faster than that, if we're being honest.

• 1:37:38Speaker 03

  Really?

• 1:37:38Speaker 02

  Really?

• 1:37:39Speaker 03

  As a man, you think that?

• 1:37:40Speaker 02

  You know?

• 1:37:41Stavros Halkias?

  As a man who's like, cause two months, basically it's like, I do think, there is something fucked up about like, you know, again, this depends on the psychology of the guy. Because some people see it as like, oh, I don't, until I have to be in a relationship, I'm not going to. Right? Which is like, you know, it's a childish way of thinking, it's like an immature way of being like, ooh, let's see how long, how much, even though I like this girl, I could fuck a couple more girls and it's not cheating. You know what I mean? Like, I wanna, I wanna be able to do this on a technicality.

• 1:38:12Speaker 02

  How long's the runway?

• 1:38:13Stavros Halkias?

  The longer that goes on, the harder it is to then start a real relationship. In my, in my experience.

• 1:38:20Speaker 03

  More damage gets done.

• 1:38:21Stavros Halkias?

  I would say I have been given too long a leash many times, and have, by, and have fucked up the relationship as a result.

• 1:38:29Speaker 03

  Right.

• 1:38:29Stavros Halkias?

  I'm just talking, this, I'm speaking directly about me right now, where it's like, I would like to actually be forced to think about.

• 1:38:36Speaker 03

  But would you accept a woman after a month being like, so what are we? Or would you be like, oh?

• 1:38:41Stavros Halkias?

  Well, it depends, right? It's a month. How many times have we seen each other?

• 1:38:44Speaker 02

  Two times a week, let's say.

• 1:38:45Stavros Halkias?

  Two times a week? I mean, you're talking about eight hangouts?

• 1:38:48Speaker 03

  I just dated someone for six months and was like, oh, this is how it's supposed to be. You're supposed to take a long time to figure out.

• 1:38:54Stavros Halkias?

  I think we all just live in New York and are in show business and we have warped minds. And that's what I'm coming around to because I'm trying to fix, I'm trying not to be a 38 year old who behaves this way.

• 1:39:06Speaker 03

  Yeah, right.

• 1:39:07Stavros Halkias?

  Against everything in my DNA. You know what I mean?

• 1:39:10Speaker 02

  So if you want a girlfriend and you're dating a girl, so you're already open to the idea of having a girlfriend.

• 1:39:15Speaker 03

  Well, now you're bringing in something else. Now you're bringing up traffic light theory.

• 1:39:18Speaker 02

  Right.

• 1:39:19Stavros Halkias?

  What's traffic light theory?

• 1:39:20Speaker 03

  Which is that when a man doesn't want to be in a relationship, the best girls can pass him by and he won't fold. But a man who goes into dating, wanting to be in a relationship, pretty much the first girl he's down.

• 1:39:30Speaker 02

  It's called the taxi.

• 1:39:31Speaker 03

  Whereas women operate opposite. Well, us, but like, it's not like we're ever looking to be in a relationship. We just meet a person, we're like, oh, I like them. I'll be in a relationship with them.

• 1:39:40Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, I do think that there's a little bit of that, like, um, yeah, I don't know. I mean, I, I do think that probably does make, like, if it was, if for me personally, it's like, I don't know. I just haven't been in a relationship because I've unfortunately, I have put my career for above everything too much and I'm trying to stop doing that.

• 1:39:59Speaker 03

  Right.

• 1:39:59Stavros Halkias?

  Um, but I would say, yeah, if I'm seeing somebody, it's like, I, I like, I like when somebody has that conversation because then it's like, listen, then we can just be on the same page, right? And by the way, I do, I am very open now where I'm like, listen, I just don't. I tell, if I'm, if I'm seeing somebody, I'm like, there's just no way right now in my life I will do this. And I totally understand if you don't want to, you know, see me a second time or whatever the fuck it is, right? Like, um, or even say it on, if, if, if I, I mean, I'm barely going, if I ever go on dates, barely, but it's like, I'm just, I'll just say that. I'm like, this is clearly where I'm at. Um, and I've worked on just communicating that instead of just being like, how long will she let me get away with this? Right? Like, because you don't want to.

• 1:40:43Stavros Halkias?

  Set the relationship up in the context of him feeling like he's getting away with something until you force him in a very traditional gender roles nagging way.

• 1:40:52Speaker 03

  What's happening?

• 1:40:53Stavros Halkias?

  To lock it down.

• 1:40:54Speaker 03

  I'm just relaxing a lot.

• 1:40:55Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah.

• 1:40:56Speaker 03

  Yeah. I'm just having a meltdown. There was sort of a physical reaction.

• 1:40:59Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah, sorry. But that that's my perspective as somebody who has been a piece of shit in the past, right? Who's been like just who and who and you know, I'm I don't want to. I'm I'm stopping that behavior, but it was like a thing of like. First, you just like see how long it'll go. And then I would get of like when I had the conversation, I'd be like, fuck, no, I don't want to do this. And then I realized, oh, wait, I actually really like that. Like, I have to, I have some real hangups with intimacy and like what, I mean. You, you, the bad family stuff, I think, does make for me and not bad. I mean, you know, my mom, my mom's an angel, my dad, you know, a flawed individual, but he did his best, whatever. But to me, what I learned growing up is like, love is a burden.

• 1:41:44Stavros Halkias?

  You know what I mean? Like, my loved ones were the ones that like, I was taught obligate. My dad would complain about having to come to America because of us, you know what I mean? And then my mom, who's great, I saw her being overworked by like, she was the one who loved my dad, but she did everything to keep so like. And nobody I grew up with, none of their parents were in good relationships, right? Like, almost nobody, not nobody, literally the one shining example I had, the like, one of the greatest guys of all time got brain cancer. And it was like God was being like, literally.

• 1:42:13Speaker 03

  What I told everyone I had in middle school.

• 1:42:16Stavros Halkias?

  Like the most fucked up shit. So to me, when I was in my twenties and maybe even, yeah, through my twenties and maybe even early thirties. That would trigger this this thing to me of like, oh, fuck, now I have to be. Now I have to be what this obligation, which of course is crazy.

• 1:42:35Speaker 03

  You feel suffocated.

• 1:42:35Stavros Halkias?

  Exactly, which of course is insane. And if you fight through that, then you get the only like relationship I had that ever worked even for long term. I had that feeling, I fought through it and we had like a good year and a half, but too much damage had been done during the leash era. You know what I mean? So.

• 1:42:52Speaker 03

  And then melon also self sabotage, which is crazy, which women don't really do as much as men.

• 1:42:56Stavros Halkias?

  Totally.

• 1:42:57Speaker 03

  Like men will be like, this feels good and I'm scared that it's gonna actually work out, so I'm gonna like blow it up.

• 1:43:02Stavros Halkias?

  A hundred percent.

• 1:43:03Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:43:04Stavros Halkias?

  And I'm done, I don't do that. And so anyway, that, my perspective as a guy who is trying to cure these ills that have historically plagued me, that's what I would say is that it's okay to have this conversation. And by the way, it's okay to date monogamously and not seriously, right?

• 1:43:24Speaker 02

  That's the other thing I was gonna say, like, just date someone and just like, don't date around. And if it doesn't work, it doesn't work.

• 1:43:28Stavros Halkias?

  But also have that conversation, be like, hey, it's not, I don't want, like, I like you, like, I'm not interested in dating other people. Would you like to be exclusive? You know, and then go from there. But there's, I do think, and part of my hang up too, was thinking that just saying somebody's my girlfriend means that we're married. Where it's like, no, you could date somebody for a month, you could have a girlfriend for a month and it's not a big deal.

• 1:43:49Speaker 02

  And break up, you could break up.

• 1:43:50Stavros Halkias?

  You could break up, you can always break up. So I do think sooner rather than later is generally pretty good. I think anywhere between, depending on the, you know, potency of how much you're hanging out, it's also like, um, one month where you see each other three times a week is a lot different than one month where you're seeing each other three times total, right?

• 1:44:11Speaker 02

  And I think ultimately, like, just enjoy the pace. Just enjoy the pace.

• 1:44:17Stavros Halkias?

  But she does feel like she already has feelings for this guy.

• 1:44:20Speaker 02

  Or she's like, should I make him my boyfriend?

• 1:44:23Stavros Halkias?

  True.

• 1:44:23Speaker 03

  Like, she doesn't like him enough.

• 1:44:24Speaker 02

  Oh, it's been, it's been this amount of time, like, should I be having this conversation? Or are you just sort of like?

• 1:44:29Speaker 03

  I think it's so annoying also that I always, the woman always does it. Like, the man, I've never once had a guy be like, so what are we?

• 1:44:36Stavros Halkias?

  Right, right, right, right.

• 1:44:37Speaker 03

  You have?

• 1:44:37Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:44:38Speaker 03

  Who?

• 1:44:41Speaker 03

  Not me not realizing that you're gonna have to say something publicly, but I'm like.

• 1:44:44Speaker 02

  I can't say.

• 1:44:44Stavros Halkias?

  Maybe a few people? Has it happened to you more than?

• 1:44:46Speaker 02

  Several, really?

• 1:44:47Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:44:48Stavros Halkias?

  See, see what would happen if you, if you put a little light in those eyes?

• 1:44:58Stavros Halkias?

  That happens though, it does happen.

• 1:45:00Speaker 03

  It's okay.

• 1:45:01Stavros Halkias?

  You really should try, you should try dating a different type of guy.

• 1:45:04Speaker 02

  Yeah, maybe drink a little more water.

• 1:45:06Speaker 03

  I need, I need this.

• 1:45:08Speaker 04

  A guy with collectible figurines, maybe.

• 1:45:10Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, you need some fucking dork.

• 1:45:12Speaker 02

  That's what you really actually need.

• 1:45:13Speaker 03

  A nerd.

• 1:45:14Stavros Halkias?

  A five-four nerd.

• 1:45:16Speaker 02

  A tiny little nerd.

• 1:45:18Speaker 03

  A tiny little nerd.

• 1:45:19Speaker 02

  Who's hiding money from you.

• 1:45:20Speaker 03

  Yeah. Well, then that means he has money.

• 1:45:23Stavros Halkias?

  There we go.

• 1:45:23Speaker 03

  That's already a step up for me.

• 1:45:25Stavros Halkias?

  There you go. So yeah. Good luck.

• 1:45:31Speaker 02

  Seriously, bitch? Good luck.

• 1:45:32Stavros Halkias?

  Good luck, baby girl. You got something fun for us to go on? And by the way, do you have any you gals want to plug here? We don't know when this probably comes out.

• 1:45:41Speaker 02

  You can follow us on Instagram.

• 1:45:43Speaker 03

  We're releasing a podcast.

• 1:45:44Speaker 02

  We're starting a podcast together on Dear Media.

• 1:45:48Stavros Halkias?

  Do you have a date?

• 1:45:49Speaker 02

  Um, no.

• 1:45:49Speaker 03

  In the next month.

• 1:45:50Speaker 02

  In the next month.

• 1:45:51Stavros Halkias?

  Well, let us know. Actually, we might be able to coordinate when it comes out.

• 1:45:54Speaker 02

  Oh, that would be nice.

• 1:45:55Speaker 03

  It's called I'll Go If You Go.

• 1:45:56Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 1:45:56Stavros Halkias?

  Oh, that's a good title.

• 1:45:57Speaker 03

  It's the two of us chatting.

• 1:45:59Stavros Halkias?

  Love it.

• 1:45:59Speaker 03

  And, and we will also be releasing a travel series that goes along with that.

• 1:46:03Speaker 02

  That we shot in the UK.

• 1:46:04Stavros Halkias?

  That's awesome.

• 1:46:05Speaker 02

  We shot like, how many episodes is it? Is it eight?

• 1:46:07Speaker 03

  Eight.

• 1:46:08Speaker 02

  We shot an eight-episode travel series.

• 1:46:09Speaker 03

  Picture Anthony Bourdain, but you get no information. We're raging whores.

• 1:46:14Speaker 02

  We don't eat.

• 1:46:15Speaker 03

  We don't eat at all.

• 1:46:17Stavros Halkias?

  Pretty cool.

• 1:46:17Speaker 03

  And we're alive.

• 1:46:18Stavros Halkias?

  That's fun. Being alive is important. So check that out. Check those out.

• 1:46:23Speaker 02

  And then we're both on tour. Come see us on tour and you can find us on social media.

• 1:46:26Stavros Halkias?

  Go see the gals on tour.

• 1:46:28Speaker 07

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• 1:47:14Stavros Halkias?

  Hey, listeners, Stavi here. Thank you for tuning into Stavi's World each week. If you want to hear new episodes ad-free, subscribe to SiriusXM Podcast Plus on Apple Podcasts or visit siriusxm.com/podcastplus to listen with Spotify or another app of your choice.

• 1:47:33Stavros Halkias?

  All right, great. I'll just play us a fun one to go out on, little buddy.

• 1:47:36Speaker 06

  Listen, Stavi, elders, beautiful guest. I'm sorry, I left another voicemail. Ignore that one. We're gonna use this one as our. Going forward, I just want to ask, is it okay?

• 1:47:48Stavros Halkias?

  Just, you don't have to do that, guys. People do that a lot. And they're like, sorry, just left a voicemail. The first one wasn't good.

• 1:47:54Speaker 02

  We never do.

• 1:47:55Stavros Halkias?

  We don't give a fuck.

• 1:47:56Speaker 02

  Yeah, we never knew that.

• 1:47:56Speaker 04

  Every voicemail is a new beginning.

• 1:47:59Stavros Halkias?

  Eldis?

• 1:47:59Speaker 04

  No one knows.

• 1:48:01Stavros Halkias?

  Yes. You think Eldis goes through all the fucking voicemails? We probably have such incredible calls that we don't get to because the only time Eldis ever combs through the voicemails is 20 minutes before an episode.

• 1:48:11Speaker 04

  I go through them. Sometimes I'll see like-

• 1:48:12Speaker 02

  He's like, alright, I do do my job.

• 1:48:14Speaker 04

  Sometimes I'll see five in a row from the same number. I'm only listening to the last one.

• 1:48:20Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah.

• 1:48:20Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:48:20Speaker 04

  You should keep that in mind.

• 1:48:21Stavros Halkias?

  Just housekeeping. Don't fucking do this going forward because now you've, now we just lost nine seconds with the explanation.

• 1:48:28Speaker 04

  And it also creates like a bad, like you're starting with just someone distrusting you.

• 1:48:34Speaker 02

  It's low frequency.

• 1:48:34Stavros Halkias?

  Low frequency behavior.

• 1:48:36Speaker 04

  You're like, whoever's hearing this is automatically thinking, oh, this guy's stupid. This is gonna be a waste of time. This person can't express themselves. But if you're calling back to express yourself.

• 1:48:48Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah.

• 1:48:49Speaker 04

  Correctly.

• 1:48:49Stavros Halkias?

  Right.

• 1:48:50Speaker 04

  This is your chance for a new start.

• 1:48:52Stavros Halkias?

  And you, a fresh beginning.

• 1:48:53Speaker 04

  No.

• 1:48:53Stavros Halkias?

  No one has to know. Go ahead, Eldis.

• 1:48:56Speaker 06

  I just want to ask, is it okay to deny women coming to the boys poker night? Here is the situation. We've got a boys poker night. Um, happens a couple of times a year. First few times, it was just the boys. It was never explicitly stated that wives and girlfriends were or were not allowed. But my buddy, he's got a wife. She really likes poker. She appeared at the last poker night when he was hosting. But for this upcoming one.

• 1:49:31Stavros Halkias?

  Home?

• 1:49:33Stavros Halkias?

  You mean she was at her house?

• 1:49:40Speaker 04

  Keep going, Eldis.

• 1:49:41Speaker 06

  This upcoming one, we've got a different bro who was hosting the poker night. And I just need to know, can he deny?

• 1:49:49Stavros Halkias?

  No.

• 1:49:49Speaker 02

  House rule.

• 1:49:50Speaker 06

  My buddy bringing his wife to the poker night. But if it was never explicitly stated.

• 1:49:56Speaker 02

  House rules.

• 1:49:57Speaker 06

  That it should be boys only. Basically, I was talking to this guy and what we decided was that we cannot deny her to this one.

• 1:50:06Stavros Halkias?

  You're right.

• 1:50:07Speaker 06

  Because it would be unexpected, but for all poker nights moving forward, we would just.

• 1:50:12Stavros Halkias?

  What are you gonna issue a memorandum?

• 1:50:16Stavros Halkias?

  All poker nights going forward.

• 1:50:18Speaker 02

  Announcement, announce, hear me, hear me.

• 1:50:19Stavros Halkias?

  Attention, one woman we don't want to hang out with.

• 1:50:23Speaker 02

  Melissa, you can no longer come to the poker.

• 1:50:25Speaker 03

  It also feels, it's just one woman.

• 1:50:27Stavros Halkias?

  It's just one girl.

• 1:50:28Speaker 02

  One girl wants to come.

• 1:50:29Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:50:30Stavros Halkias?

  Dude, I, I get, I do understand the frustration in that, like, look, sometimes you just want it.

• 1:50:35Speaker 02

  Want to be with the boys.

• 1:50:36Stavros Halkias?

  You want to have a dumbass evening with just the fellas, whatever.

• 1:50:40Speaker 02

  Also, the inverse of that is like when a, when you're a girl's night and a girl brings her boyfriend, you're like, what the fuck?

• 1:50:46Stavros Halkias?

  Well, when, when I've been dating someone, I accidentally end up in a hang that like, it wasn't, it wasn't explicitly a girl, but it's like, it just so happened that I, by poor planning, ended up being the only guy there. Nobody's, I'm not happy.

• 1:50:59Speaker 02

  No one's happy.

• 1:51:00Stavros Halkias?

  And if, if you find yourself in that position, here's what you do. Be charming for 20 minutes, ask everybody how they're doing, and then be like, ah, something came up, gotta go, that's all, and buy a round of drinks and get the fuck out of there, right?

• 1:51:11Speaker 02

  Buy a round of drinks is very cool.

• 1:51:13Stavros Halkias?

  That's, that's what you gotta do. I get, I get where you're coming from because yes, sometimes you just want a thing, but this girl already came. She, by the way, she likes poker. She's not like a poser.

• 1:51:24Speaker 02

  Which means she knows how to play. She's good.

• 1:51:25Stavros Halkias?

  She's not like, she's not like a pick me. She's like, she really likes poker, like this, so I say, I think what you want to do here is you have to rebrand. Poker has been, poker has been, unfortunately for you, the Supreme Court has ruled and poker is now opened, has been opened to women.

• 1:51:45Speaker 02

  We lost a lot of other stuff.

• 1:51:47Stavros Halkias?

  Back in the tube.

• 1:51:48Speaker 02

  We lost Roe v. Wade, but we can go to poker.

• 1:51:52Stavros Halkias?

  Right, right, right, right. That's actually true. Actually, we did. I guess we overturned Roe v. Wade. Maybe you can have men's, just the boys' poker night, but.

• 1:51:59Speaker 02

  Legally.

• 1:52:00Stavros Halkias?

  I think for this social circle, the precedent has been set.

• 1:52:03Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:52:04Stavros Halkias?

  That poker night is called. So I would even say, open it up a little more, right?

• 1:52:08Speaker 02

  Bring a date. Ever get the plus one?

• 1:52:11Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah, I mean, yes, yes, gender-wise, open up gender. Make it fluid. I would say now poker night could be a little more of a part, you know, the poker, because you'll host poker games and it's like, it's couples usually, right? Or is it bros?

• 1:52:25Speaker 04

  It's usually bros, but.

• 1:52:27Stavros Halkias?

  But no one's like.

• 1:52:28Speaker 03

  I think they have to make a second secret poker game for boys.

• 1:52:31Stavros Halkias?

  Well, that's what I was gonna say. What you have to do is.

• 1:52:32Speaker 02

  An underground situation, Molly's game.

• 1:52:35Stavros Halkias?

  Yes, exactly. This has become an open game, right?

• 1:52:38Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:52:38Stavros Halkias?

  Now you need the executive game from The Sopranos, right? Now you need the, but, but what you do now, you have to rebrand. Because poker has been lost as the boys' activity. You say it only happens twice a month, you know, twice a year, they said. This is clearly not about poker. This is about the fellas hanging out. So now you need to rebrand and have like, fellas' night, or like a game, or, or, or put it around a, a sports thing.

• 1:53:03Speaker 02

  Think about things that women confirmed don't want to do.

• 1:53:07Stavros Halkias?

  Right. Say you're gonna have a fucking Steven Seagal movie marathon, right? You know what I'm saying? Like.

• 1:53:12Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:53:13Stavros Halkias?

  But I would, I would really, like, like if we want to hang out, like, you know, we, we just, me, Eldison, me, Eldison, and his lovely wife had a great Saturday in Industry City. We were hanging out, like, we have no problem, like, you know, all me, all our friend group, like, we'll hang out in whatever configuration. But there's nights where if, if your wife came to my apartment where we're fucking watching fucking Hong Kong action movies and getting high, it's like, she doesn't want to fucking be there.

• 1:53:43Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:53:43Stavros Halkias?

  So like, there's nothing wrong with occasionally having some, you know.

• 1:53:48Speaker 02

  Siloed activity.

• 1:53:49Stavros Halkias?

  Siloed activity.

• 1:53:50Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:53:50Stavros Halkias?

  But I do think. Poker night you have now cannot be that. So just say like, you know, we're gonna go, it's just fellas night or whatever, however you want to say it.

• 1:53:59Speaker 03

  Applebee's.

• 1:54:00Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, Applebee's Dolaritas.

• 1:54:02Speaker 02

  Apps, app, sampler, sampler.

• 1:54:05Speaker 03

  Half apps, sampler.

• 1:54:06Stavros Halkias?

  Yep.

• 1:54:06Speaker 02

  Yeah, I think you could just make poker night sort of a sexy situation now.

• 1:54:11Stavros Halkias?

  Casino night, gam- casinos are kinda hot.

• 1:54:14Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:54:14Stavros Halkias?

  The old glamorous ones.

• 1:54:16Speaker 02

  It's kind of like dinner for schmucks, but it's just hot girls.

• 1:54:19Speaker 03

  And also, everyone fucks this guy's wife.

• 1:54:21Stavros Halkias?

  That's not what dinner for schmucks is like at all, by the way. What do you mean by that? You mean like, you're just a, instead of bring a weird guy, you have to bring a hot woman?

• 1:54:29Speaker 02

  You have a plus one.

• 1:54:30Stavros Halkias?

  You just mean, yeah, having a date?

• 1:54:32Speaker 03

  Dinner for schmucks, that movie about plus ones.

• 1:54:35Stavros Halkias?

  Gabby's frame of reference for dinner for schmucks is just, dinner for schmucks situation is inviting someone somewhere.

• 1:54:42Speaker 02

  Inviting someone to an event.

• 1:54:47Speaker 02

  Do sort of a dinner for schmucks and invite a friend.

• 1:54:49Stavros Halkias?

  But with hot girls.

• 1:54:51Speaker 03

  I think poker night should be a gangbang.

• 1:54:53Stavros Halkias?

  Hmm, so you think they should run a train on his wife?

• 1:54:55Speaker 03

  I think everyone should run train on your wife.

• 1:54:57Stavros Halkias?

  Or, you know what? If you really want to freak her out and be like, you and your boys gotta suck each other off in front of her. You'd be like, this is what happens at poker night.

• 1:55:05Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's when we're being a little gay.

• 1:55:08Stavros Halkias?

  Then she'll get out of there.

• 1:55:09Speaker 02

  I also do think you could have a reasonable conversation with this wife and be like, Melissa, I'm assuming her name is Melissa.

• 1:55:14Speaker 03

  I also was thinking Melissa. Did you wake that up?

• 1:55:16Speaker 02

  I recently said it.

• 1:55:17Speaker 03

  Okay, that's what it was.

• 1:55:18Stavros Halkias?

  I thought you said Alyssa.

• 1:55:20Speaker 02

  I said Melissa.

• 1:55:20Stavros Halkias?

  Oh, okay.

• 1:55:21Speaker 02

  Um, Melissa, we kinda wanna have a boys' night.

• 1:55:24Speaker 03

  Yeah, I actually totally disagree with you. I think like, if it's just one woman, you can kick her out.

• 1:55:30Stavros Halkias?

  That to me seems more, if it was a few women, it feels like, one woman seems more harsh.

• 1:55:35Speaker 03

  But why is, like, already, it's like, girl, why are you at the boys' poker night?

• 1:55:39Stavros Halkias?

  Cause she likes poker.

• 1:55:40Speaker 02

  Sounds like a horrible time.

• 1:55:41Speaker 03

  Go start a girls' poker night.

• 1:55:43Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:55:44Speaker 03

  What, does she hate women?

• 1:55:45Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, oh, good for her. Accuse her of being, uh, having, accuse her of having internalized misogyny.

• 1:55:51Speaker 03

  Yeah, right. You're not being a girl's girl.

• 1:55:53Speaker 02

  You wanna be the only girl at the party?

• 1:55:56Speaker 03

  Yeah, you're trying to fuck your husband's friends.

• 1:55:59Speaker 02

  I don't like that.

• 1:55:59Speaker 03

  And why are you wearing that? Show up and that.

• 1:56:04Stavros Halkias?

  Okay, I mean, let's to to I guess I just think like I'm putting myself in a position where it's all my guy friends. And one of their wives loves poker and I like this person, right? Like I wouldn't want to hurt my my friends because she's my friend too.

• 1:56:18Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:56:18Stavros Halkias?

  And she's shown that she really likes it. I wouldn't want to hurt her feelings and be like, you can't come anymore because it's just because like what we're trying to get out of it can be achieved in a non poker way. It can be achieved by just going out to a bar and getting drinks together. It can be achieved by watching a movie together and getting high like it. You just want to have locker. You just want to feel like you're in the locker room again, right? And you don't need to play poker to do that. And if one of my friends really who happens to be a girl really likes, you know, the activity we're doing. It's like, I wouldn't want to be fucking mean to her. That's that's how I see it.

• 1:56:50Speaker 03

  Stabby is so much better of a person.

• 1:56:52Speaker 02

  So nice.

• 1:56:52Speaker 03

  It's so crazy.

• 1:56:54Speaker 02

  I'm really overwhelmed.

• 1:56:55Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:56:56Stavros Halkias?

  We're talking about my real friends, right? Like, because I only hang out like the people I actually see are like my closest friends and and their significant others.

• 1:57:03Speaker 03

  So what if you guys had a boys poker night and me and Gabby wanted to come?

• 1:57:06Stavros Halkias?

  That's a little different because it's like not like.

• 1:57:10Speaker 02

  Fun anymore.

• 1:57:11Stavros Halkias?

  No, no, no, no. First of all, you could come to like if we were having a poker game, you're 100% invited. I don't see poker as gendered, to be honest with you. But if we were having like a if me and my five best male friends were like, we're gonna fucking get high, you know, get Korean barbecue and go to the movies. And you're like, we want to come. I'd be like, no. Like, we can hang out at a different time. It's not about poker night. It's about the sanctity of these guys didn't make clear that this was about the fellas hanging out.

• 1:57:40Speaker 03

  Right.

• 1:57:40Stavros Halkias?

  They just said, we're having a poker night.

• 1:57:42Speaker 03

  Kind of known, I think. Like, read the room a little bit.

• 1:57:45Stavros Halkias?

  It's you know whose fault it is?

• 1:57:47Speaker 03

  It's the husband's fault.

• 1:57:48Stavros Halkias?

  Her husband.

• 1:57:48Speaker 03

  It really is. He opened the floodgates.

• 1:57:50Stavros Halkias?

  And he need and listen, you can punish him. He needs to be sanctioned within your friend group for doing this for ru for ruining poker night with estrogen.

• 1:57:59Speaker 03

  It's actually so true in that she he should have been like, it's the boys night. Can you go have a girls night with your friends?

• 1:58:05Stavros Halkias?

  And actually, if you think he's capable of personally talking to her and ironing this out.

• 1:58:13Speaker 03

  It should be on him.

• 1:58:13Stavros Halkias?

  He can do it. I don't think he can, because he let her do it.

• 1:58:17Speaker 03

  Cocked, he's cocked.

• 1:58:18Stavros Halkias?

  He's cocked. He honestly, let's be honest, this guy's cocked, right? Or maybe he's just not a misogynist and he wants to, and he enjoys playing poker with his wife.

• 1:58:26Speaker 03

  But you know, he also, he would play with all the friends.

• 1:58:29Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, he would just love his wife.

• 1:58:30Speaker 03

  He'd be like, babe, they all said you could.

• 1:58:33Speaker 02

  No. This guy's clearly a cuck.

• 1:58:37Speaker 02

  Who loves his wife and wants to spend more time with her. Throughout their busy schedules. My best friend has a girls' book club and they live in Raleigh. And she said to the husband, stay upstairs, great town, stay upstairs, do not come downstairs.

• 1:58:51Speaker 03

  No husband in his right mind would want to enter a woman's space like that.

• 1:58:53Speaker 02

  Not true. He wanted to be a part of it so bad, he sat on the steps and listened.

• 1:58:58Stavros Halkias?

  So this guy's cocked.

• 1:59:01Speaker 02

  He slowly just walked into the living room.

• 1:59:04Stavros Halkias?

  Right.

• 1:59:04Speaker 02

  So it's like, the other person wants to be involved if they're there, you know?

• 1:59:08Stavros Halkias?

  Maybe, maybe not.

• 1:59:09Speaker 02

  Because you're just upstairs, knowing there's gossip happening.

• 1:59:11Stavros Halkias?

  If I was dating somebody and there's a fucking book club going on downstairs, I'm playing Xbox upstairs. Like, I'm not coming down. It just depends on your personality. Yeah, maybe he loves, actually, I love, actually, that is me. I do love.

• 1:59:22Speaker 03

  You love to kiki.

• 1:59:23Stavros Halkias?

  You know what?

• 1:59:23Speaker 02

  I imagine all the girls are gossiping downstairs.

• 1:59:25Stavros Halkias?

  I'm actually lying. I actually love when it's just me and girls, actually. That's one of my favorite types of hangouts. But anyway.

• 1:59:30Speaker 03

  Hang out with us.

• 1:59:31Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, what are we doing?

• 1:59:33Speaker 03

  Gossiping, gossiping.

• 1:59:35Stavros Halkias?

  Doing peptides?

• 1:59:36Speaker 03

  Poker, peptides.

• 1:59:37Stavros Halkias?

  Poker, poker, poker peptide night. A little something for everybody.

• 1:59:40Speaker 02

  Wait, I should throw that.

• 1:59:43Stavros Halkias?

  No, I'm, let me be clear, I'm not taking any of your fucking little league peptides.

• 1:59:46Speaker 02

  All right. To each his own.

• 1:59:49Stavros Halkias?

  I'm going to a doctor.

• 1:59:51Speaker 02

  I have a doctor's number.

• 1:59:55Stavros Halkias?

  So yeah, I guess that's, that's how I see the whole thing. And, okay, let's say you really like her, you don't want to hurt her feelings. Let's say you don't like her. Telling her to her face now creates animosity within the group.

• 2:00:08Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:00:08Stavros Halkias?

  And, and you escalate. So I just think, to be safe. Re-channel the bros-only energy into something that it is established from the very beginning is for the bros-only. That's, that's how I would handle it personally.

• 2:00:23Speaker 03

  I think it should be golf. I know some women like to play golf.

• 2:00:27Stavros Halkias?

  I fucking hate golf, though.

• 2:00:28Speaker 03

  But...

• 2:00:29Stavros Halkias?

  But I know what you mean. Yes, there's other ways to do it. Golf.

• 2:00:31Speaker 03

  But they probably like the lake. It's like smoky and it's dark.

• 2:00:34Stavros Halkias?

  Here's the thing, though. You can, here's the thing. You can lie to your wives about what you're doing. You could be like, "Oh, we're, we're watching the football game," and then have a fucking poker game.

• 2:00:42Speaker 03

  That's what I'm saying. You need a secondary poker night.

• 2:00:44Stavros Halkias?

  You need a...

• 2:00:44Speaker 03

  They basically need to make a fake poker night. Truman Show this woman. Pretend that it's a poker night.

• 2:00:50Stavros Halkias?

  A bunch of extras that look like, a bunch of guys that kind of look like them are playing with her.

• 2:00:55Speaker 03

  Gas light the fuck out of this woman.

• 2:00:57Speaker 02

  A screen falls, they're playing poker.

• 2:01:01Stavros Halkias?

  That's really funny. She's playing poker with their, with like, uh, holograms of them.

• 2:01:06Speaker 02

  At one point, she's like...

• 2:01:11Speaker 02

  Oh, fuck.

• 2:01:13Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah. I, you're right. I do, I get it, but that's personally how I would handle it if I were in this situation. You know what I'm saying? What do you think, Elders? You're a man who both married and has poker nights, so you're...

• 2:01:27Speaker 04

  I would, I would like, I would like the, uh, I think it'd be fun if like someone's wife or girlfriend was like, "Oh, I wanna come to poker night," if she was into it.

• 2:01:35Stavros Halkias?

  Totally.

• 2:01:35Speaker 04

  If she like, actually liked poker and, you know. She wasn't being a dumb bitch, asking whatever he hand-means.

• 2:01:41Stavros Halkias?

  Right, right, right, right, right.

• 2:01:42Speaker 02

  I did not expect that.

• 2:01:44Speaker 04

  You know, it's, it is, it is just a fun new energy and...

• 2:01:47Stavros Halkias?

  Totally.

• 2:01:47Speaker 04

  When it's just guys, it's like, you know, it gets a little autistic in there. Everyone's like, is getting real quiet. They're like Doyle Brunson or something.

• 2:01:55Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, right.

• 2:01:56Speaker 03

  You need the female energy.

• 2:01:58Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 2:01:58Speaker 03

  She better be showing up in a bikini, by the way.

• 2:02:00Stavros Halkias?

  Totally. Or her tits out.

• 2:02:02Speaker 03

  Her tits need to be out. We haven't figured that out yet.

• 2:02:04Speaker 04

  Something low-cut.

• 2:02:05Stavros Halkias?

  Jennifer Tilly playing poker with her tits out, man, that was awesome.

• 2:02:09Speaker 04

  Yeah, I, I agree with you. I don't think of like poker as gendered.

• 2:02:13Stavros Halkias?

  Me neither.

• 2:02:13Speaker 04

  So this is hard to see, but, but, but I think at the same time, like...

• 2:02:17Stavros Halkias?

  It's also very possible that she's better at poker than them.

• 2:02:20Speaker 03

  And they're pissed. I was thinking that as well.

• 2:02:22Stavros Halkias?

  Because if she's really into it and they were just using it as an excuse to not hang out with their wives, it's possible that she's, she's the one who's taking it too seriously. Like, she could be a better player than, or, you know, we're just...

• 2:02:33Speaker 04

  Maybe.

• 2:02:34Stavros Halkias?

  Who knows?

• 2:02:34Speaker 03

  We're amusing, we're amusing.

• 2:02:36Stavros Halkias?

  There's just different ways. I'm sorry to cut you off. Go ahead.

• 2:02:38Speaker 04

  Yeah, same time. I don't know. I don't think there's anything wrong with being like, eh, just the guys tonight.

• 2:02:43Stavros Halkias?

  Sure.

• 2:02:43Speaker 04

  That guy does.

• 2:02:44Speaker 03

  Yeah, I think that's reasonable.

• 2:02:45Speaker 04

  Talk to his wife.

• 2:02:46Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah. Yeah, you could also be like, hey, yeah, yeah, but it's up to the guy and I don't have faith in him to pull it off.

• 2:02:53Speaker 04

  I know what you mean.

• 2:02:54Stavros Halkias?

  You know what I'm saying?

• 2:02:55Speaker 04

  I don't either.

• 2:02:55Stavros Halkias?

  Cause we have friends who like will definitely fuck up a hang by not like, and it's actually both different genders too. Like, like, like, we, we've definitely had people like, and it's not just significant others. Sometimes it's just like, they bring a weird friend or like, we have people in our lives who just will fuck the vibes up.

• 2:03:14Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:03:15Stavros Halkias?

  You know what I'm, so.

• 2:03:16Speaker 04

  It is a little bit on the wife. I've, I've been the guy who like fucks up the hang by like bringing his girlfriend before, but like my wife just, you know, she reads it right every time. I never, I never have to like be like.

• 2:03:28Speaker 03

  No. Yeah, you should be dating someone who reads The Social Situation.

• 2:03:31Stavros Halkias?

  But also this girl seems like she fucking loves poker.

• 2:03:34Speaker 03

  I know. She really wants to play?

• 2:03:35Stavros Halkias?

  It's kind of like sad. It's like, you know, I, anyway, whatever. This is just, to me, I just think they're ju, they, maybe we're reading it wrong. It doesn't seem like these guys are fucking poker fanatics. They just didn't want to hang out with their fucking wives. So, but either way, we get, we talked enough. Fucking figure it out.

• 2:03:52Speaker 03

  The wives need to come up with their own.

• 2:03:54Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah.

• 2:03:54Speaker 03

  Texas Hold'em. And then they can do a like a.

• 2:03:57Speaker 02

  Is Texas Hold'em and poker the same thing?

• 2:03:59Stavros Halkias?

  It's a type of poker.

• 2:04:00Speaker 03

  All right.

• 2:04:01Speaker 02

  Blackjack guy.

• 2:04:01Speaker 03

  I didn't know poker was a genre.

• 2:04:04Stavros Halkias?

  It's, yeah, it's, it's, there's like so many different types of poker. Texas Hold'em is the one that got like the biggest, like when we, when I was, probably, how old were we? Like 13, 14? Texas Hold'em would like exploded.

• 2:04:17Speaker 04

  Yeah. I mean, I remember coming down to Greecity and playing a game with some of our buddies in like fourth grade.

• 2:04:23Stavros Halkias?

  Not fourth grade.

• 2:04:23Speaker 04

  Or middle school?

• 2:04:24Stavros Halkias?

  Middle school. We started, yeah, we started gambling in middle school. I literally had a friend with a bookie when I was like, when I was like, and he's now, he got addicted to gambling and disappeared. And like he resurfaced in Asia gambling.

• 2:04:36Speaker 03

  Oh, hey, this guy's awesome.

• 2:04:37Stavros Halkias?

  He actually is awesome. He was the man. He was a fucking cool dude.

• 2:04:41Speaker 02

  He resurfaced for you.

• 2:04:42Stavros Halkias?

  Actually, he would be exactly your type. A real piece of shit.

• 2:04:48Speaker 02

  Please don't date a bookie.

• 2:04:50Stavros Halkias?

  Hey, not a bookie, a gambling addict.

• 2:04:52Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 2:04:54Stavros Halkias?

  Anyway.

• 2:04:56Stavros Halkias?

  That's it. That's our advice. That was a good one. There was a lot of meat on that bone. There's not really the, you know, the fun, usually the fun go out one. I thought we were, this episode was gonna be over 20 minutes ago, but.

• 2:05:07Speaker 04

  Keep the good times rolling.

• 2:05:10Stavros Halkias?

  We ended up really dissecting that one.

• 2:05:14Stavros Halkias?

  I like, yeah, I think we, I think we, we ruled justly in this case. That's gonna do it for us, gals. Thank you so much. This was so fun.

• 2:05:21Speaker 03

  Thank you.

• 2:05:22Stavros Halkias?

  Watch, listen to the new pod, go see the girls live, come see us live. I assume we're, maybe we're about to finish a tour. Who fucking knows? Maybe the special's about, we're about to tape the special, probably.

• 2:05:35Speaker 04

  There's like five episodes that have already come out where you're like, we just finished the special.

• 2:05:40Stavros Halkias?

  I know. On the, on the fucking Jabuki episode where I'm like, and there was one episode where I was talking about, man, I wish I had a couple, a little more time to work on the special. And I really cursed myself, man.

• 2:05:53Speaker 03

  Time is a construct.

• 2:05:54Stavros Halkias?

  I really fucking, I really got what I asked for, but anyway, that's gonna do it for us. We'll see you next time. Bye.

• 2:06:01Speaker 03

  Bye.

• 2:06:12Stavros Halkias?

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