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Host Caleb Hearon and guest Asher Perlman discuss their early days doing improv at I.O. in Chicago, the heavy toll of modern energy drinks like Celsius, and the unique camaraderie of riding city bikes through New York City. They also trade stories about navigating work, dealing with medical diagnoses, and their mutual, deep-seated anxiety regarding mortality. Later in the episode, the guest plays a fast-paced true-or-false trivia game testing his knowledge on random facts.
The host opens the episode with a brief welcome and sets the stage for the featured segments.
Caleb and Asher reconnect, reminiscing about their first meeting and shared memories at I.O. comedy theater.
The hosts discuss their experiences at I.O., focusing on team placement, power struggles, and the impact of leadership decisions.
The hosts celebrate city biking, sharing personal stories, the sense of community, and the benefits of using public bike programs.
A sponsor break featuring Hinge's Friends Take feature and Quince's sustainable clothing line, highlighting product benefits and calls to action.
The conversation turns to mental health, therapy accessibility, and the role of support systems in coping with anxiety and life challenges.
The host introduces Rula, a platform that simplifies finding insured therapists and offers low-cost sessions with transparent pricing.
A brief ad segment showcases Squarespace’s all-in-one website tools for creators and businesses.
Commercials for KitchenAid mixers, Peloton treadmills, and Nordstrom Rack’s winter gear appear in quick succession.
The conversation pivots to a deep, personal question about what happens when we die and the host’s beliefs about God.
The host recounts his debilitating fear of death in his teens, how it faded, and recent resurfacing as he ages.
The guest shares a personal medical experience with fainting and the diagnostic tilt‑table test, highlighting the physical sensations of losing consciousness.
Recognizing the Future in Chicagostory
The guest recalls a memory of seeing the host at I.O. in Chicago when another comedian pointed him out and declared him the future.
Reluctance to Hold Powerinsight
The guest explains that he dislikes having control and power because he second-guesses himself and lacks the confidence required to handle it well.
The Dangers of Celsius Energy Drinksinsight
The guest argues that energy drinks like Celsius feel like dangerous poison that leaves you feeling untethered and on the moon.
The host describes the elation and unique sense of community he feels while riding city e-bikes through New York City rain.
Constant Medical Anxietiesstory
The guest admits to frequently calling poison control over minor things like swallowing pool chlorine or taking too many Tums.
Reframing the Fear of Deathinsight
The host explains how he overcame a debilitating fear of death by choosing to view it as a potentially beautiful journey instead of something scary.
The Terrifying Tilt Table Teststory
The guest recounts undergoing a medical tilt table test where he passed out within seconds and felt what he believes dying is like.
“I feel good. You know what's so funny? I was trying to, on the way over here, I was trying to remember when we met, if it was in Chicago or New York for the first time.”
“I was like, this is horrible. Cause now I have no, I need editorial oversight here.”
“I think that people, everyone in power needs to appreciate how much people read into every little thing they do.”
“If the experience was hell and the outcome is great, who cares?”
“I think I thought of it as this like horrible ending for a long time that I was like, I don't want this to end because I'm having so much fun and that makes me really sad.”
“I have, I, I, I used to have a really bad fear of death. It was debilitating and then I pretty much kicked it.”
“The way I kicked it was basically by just reframing what I think it is. I think I thought of it as this like horrible ending for a long time...”
“I think basically my relationship with that, with death was like first 10 years of my life, didn't really think about it, didn't know much about it.”
“And slowly, the things you love begin to find each other.”
“You create it, layer by layer, until it finally feels like fall.”
Welcome back! This week’s guest is the hilarious Asher Perlman! Asher and Caleb talk biking around the city, living forever, a harrowing encounter with a medical professional, poison, and much more! Join our Substack for ad free full episodes, early access to merch, our community chat, and more! https://calebsaysthings.substack.com/ Follow Asher! @asherperlman Follow the show! @sooootruepod Follow Caleb! @calebsaysthings Produced by Chance Nichols @chanceisloud Visit https://hin.ge/SoTruewithCalebHearon to download Hinge today! Get 40% off select Lola Blankets products at https://Lolablankets.com by using code SOTRUE at checkout. Experience the world’s #1 blanket with Lola Blankets. Visit https://Quince.com/sotrue for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Now available in Canada, too. To find delicious recipes and learn more about the antioxidant goodness of POM Wonderful, please go to https://pomwonderful.com Rula patients typically pay $15 per session when using insurance. Head to https://RULA.com to find a therapist the easy way. Go to https://www.squarespace.com/SOTRUE to save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code SOTRUE. So True with Caleb Hearon is edited and engineered by Nicole Lyons. Our social media manager is Anna Weis. All episodes are filmed in The So Trudio at Legitimate Business World Headquarters in Brooklyn, New York. A Wave series. https://wavesportsandentertainment.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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