Aaron Branch Loves Being Alive

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• 1:19Speaker 02

  I go, how do you square this very eastern, kind of like karmic reincarnation belief that you have with your belief in heaven and Jesus Christ and God?

• 1:30Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:31Speaker 02

  And she takes a sip of her beer and goes, "I've never thought about that a day in my life."

• 1:40Speaker 02

  What's up, dude?

• 1:40Speaker 03

  What up, dog?

• 1:41Speaker 02

  Good to see you.

• 1:42Speaker 03

  Good to see you, too.

• 1:43Speaker 02

  How you been?

• 1:43Speaker 03

  I'm good.

• 1:45Speaker 02

  Talk truth. Now do one with the truth.

• 1:49Speaker 03

  Well, what you guys missed was I literally just said that I almost canceled. I'm good.

• 1:52Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:53Speaker 03

  I'm good. I'm good.

• 1:54Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:55Speaker 03

  I'm good.

• 1:56Speaker 02

  What's going on?

• 1:56Speaker 03

  I just think that it's, you know, everything is so good.

• 2:00Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:00Speaker 03

  Which is great.

• 2:01Speaker 02

  Say that.

• 2:01Speaker 03

  A lot of cool opportunities are popping up.

• 2:03Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:03Speaker 03

  Having fun in life.

• 2:05Speaker 02

  You told me you were living out of your car?

• 2:06Speaker 03

  Kind, no. Yeah, yeah. Yes. There's just some clothes and some dishware. No, everything is good. I, so basically, like, I... Well, first of all, this is gonna sound sad, so I'm gonna say this one first. My dad had a stroke, I found out.

• 2:23Speaker 02

  Damn, I'm sorry.

• 2:24Speaker 03

  It's okay. We have a weird relationship, but also, like, it's still apparent, so it's like, you know what I mean?

• 2:29Speaker 02

  These are like two things dads are obsessed with, by the way. Having a weird relationship with their kids.

• 2:32Speaker 03

  Yeah, and then having a stroke. And then you being like, "Oh, I need to drop everything."

• 2:35Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:36Speaker 03

  And like, do something about it also. But he's doing fantastic, which is great.

• 2:39Speaker 02

  Good.

• 2:40Speaker 03

  But then the second thing was, is, like, so basically, it was my girlfriend's birthday last weekend, and we did like a staycation thing, which I feel like people don't do in LA. Maybe that's like a Midwest thing?

• 2:52Speaker 02

  It's very Midwest.

• 2:53Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:53Speaker 02

  In LA, it's like, "Let's go to Ojai."

• 2:54Speaker 03

  Yeah, exactly. So I was like, "I wanna do a staycation." So we like, got a really cool hotel room, went to like a bar with like a bunch of her friends, and then my roommate FaceTimes me after we all leave the bar, and there is a man in my kitchen, wearing, which is kind of funny, my best friend's production company shirt, but he's wearing our clothes.

• 3:18Speaker 02

  What?

• 3:18Speaker 03

  Like socks from like, head to toe, with like a knife in his hand for protection, and is just making food.

• 3:27Speaker 02

  Maybe the knife was for the food.

• 3:29Speaker 03

  No.

• 3:29Speaker 02

  No, it was, he was wielding?

• 3:30Speaker 03

  You would know by the FaceTime. It was like a very much like a...

• 3:33Speaker 02

  FaceTime?

• 3:34Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 3:34Speaker 02

  Hold on, how were we seeing this guy?

• 3:35Speaker 03

  So basically, my roommate came home with a friend, and, a friend, and they, and so they get there, and then, he's like, he was about to go in, then thank God, she was there.

• 3:47Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 3:47Speaker 03

  Because she was like, "Don't do that." He, for whatever reason in his mind, thought that was me.

• 3:51Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 3:52Speaker 03

  I don't know.

• 3:52Speaker 02

  What's the clothes and the being in the house, probably, yeah?

• 3:56Speaker 03

  Yeah, exactly. Like, why would you assume it'd be anyone else? And so, but she stops, and she was like, "We shouldn't go in."

• 4:02Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 4:02Speaker 03

  And then he looks, and I guess, I guess the guy looked over and was like, "What are you gonna do?"

• 4:08Speaker 02

  Well, if you have a knife, not much, brother.

• 4:10Speaker 03

  Yeah, and then just went right back to making his mac and cheese. Which, to be fair, that could be what the knife was for, but I don't see it so...

• 4:16Speaker 02

  Either way, good for him, I guess. Wait, so who, what did we find out? So your roommate doesn't go in?

• 4:21Speaker 03

  Yes, my roommate doesn't go in. He FaceTimes me from like a side window, in which I get to see what's happening in real time, looking over and like making food at the same time. It was a lot. So, I end up leaving the staycation, left my girlfriend there, and I felt really bad about that. But I left the staycation, I go home, and then all the cops had just arrived, like right when I get there.

• 4:41Speaker 02

  Good.

• 4:41Speaker 03

  And so...

• 4:41Speaker 02

  Surely, they'll make it all better.

• 4:43Speaker 03

  Yeah, and so, they, no, they didn't, actually. If I'm being honest with you?

• 4:47Speaker 02

  100%.

• 4:47Speaker 03

  They were super nice, but they, they basically arrested the man, and then we had to go in. This guy trashed our place. Like, and he like left like a bunch of stuff. It was like a nasty like cheetah blanket with like a bunch of hair on it. Like, on my bed, his underwear was everywhere. He was, in fact, having a staycation himself.

• 5:05Speaker 02

  He was chilling, yeah.

• 5:06Speaker 03

  He was, definitely.

• 5:08Speaker 02

  Good deal for him, yeah.

• 5:09Speaker 03

  Yeah, good job for him. And so, um, he didn't steal anything. He didn't steal anything. And so, in the middle of me trying to like assess the situation, the cop was like, "Hey, I don't wanna bother you, but like, aren't you from YouTube?" And I was like, "This is not the time."

• 5:22Speaker 02

  Not now!

• 5:23Speaker 03

  This is not...

• 5:23Speaker 02

  Not now!

• 5:24Speaker 03

  This is not the time to be doing that.

• 5:26Speaker 02

  That's crazy.

• 5:27Speaker 03

  Yeah, and so, it was a homeless individual. We didn't press charges, and I think everyone's mad that we didn't. Well, he didn't steal anything.

• 5:37Speaker 02

  Yeah... You can't be in my house with a knife.

• 5:43Speaker 03

  I don't know, he didn't steal anything!

• 5:45Speaker 02

  I'm as left as the next guy. You can't be in my house with a knife. It's a boundary for me. It's a boundary for me. You can't go in my house with a knife and put your cheetah blanket on my bed.

• 5:53Speaker 03

  And what really got me was the fact that he was boiling water in a skillet.

• 5:57Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 5:58Speaker 03

  And I think...

• 5:59Speaker 02

  Well, he's not been in a kitchen in a minute.

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  Yes, and I have a soft place in my heart with people that have schizophrenia, and so, which is a weird thing to say out of context.

• 6:07Speaker 02

  Do you know that he does?

• 6:08Speaker 03

  Yeah, if you're boiling water in a skillet, I mean, what's going on?

• 6:11Speaker 02

  He might just be really not up on kitchens.

• 6:13Speaker 03

  Yeah, that's a really good point as well.

• 6:16Speaker 02

  It's actually kind of crazy to jump to schizophrenia, I think. To be like, "No, he has a different personality inside him that told him skillet is for boiling." I think it's like, he might just really not be up on kitchens based on his situation.

• 6:27Speaker 03

  Yeah, maybe a little ableist to be, I don't know. So I, um, yeah, we let him go. And I didn't realize that process, like, he just got out of the cop car and walked away.

• 6:35Speaker 02

  He did a catch and release, yeah.

• 6:36Speaker 03

  I think I was kind of hoping that like, maybe like that meant like he fucked with me, like now.

• 6:40Speaker 02

  He's gonna fuck with you.

• 6:43Speaker 02

  So come back in that house and make some more mac and cheese in the skillet.

• 6:45Speaker 03

  Yeah, so that was that. So like, I don't know, there is like a feeling of like your, your safety and like, also just kind of like, you're like safe space, just like being, like, I don't know, it made me feel weird, and so, we also had, we had, we were taking a trip to New Hampshire the week after, so I was like, "I haven't even packed for that trip." That was like a day later. And so, I just grabbed a bunch of stuff from my house, and then like, I couldn't even assess like the mess. Like, I couldn't do anything. So I just, I literally just got back two nights ago, then filmed all day yesterday, and then I'm just now kind of dealing with the situation.

• 7:23Speaker 02

  Has anyone cleaned the house yet?

• 7:24Speaker 03

  Yeah, thank God. Our landlord did a really good job. He got like cleaners in there, which was good.

• 7:28Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 7:28Speaker 03

  Uh, but yeah, so I'm kind of still like going through my stuff, and like, just because there's things that cleaners, this now sounds like me being a dick, there's some things that cleaners can't touch. And so, I was like trying to like, get all of that together also, but everything's good now. And now I'm gonna unclean my car when I leave here, and it's gonna be good.

• 7:45Speaker 02

  There's no doubt that you should have canceled on this.

• 7:47Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's fine.

• 7:48Speaker 02

  This podcast.

• 7:48Speaker 03

  It's all good.

• 7:49Speaker 02

  I would have supported you, it's so crazy. I'm really, you need to know, you need to know about me that I'm always happy to get canceled on.

• 7:55Speaker 03

  Okay, I know.

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  It means the world.

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  You're awesome for that, too.

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  I'm thrilled to be here, I love talking with you.

• 7:59Speaker 03

  I love talking with you, too. I'm, I'm good. Like, everything is good, I'm very lucky in that sense also. My mom's also, I'm going to Cabo also next week, so there's just a lot of work I have to do, so I was like, "This would be a good thing to do." Plus, we tried to do this in Kansas City, and it didn't happen, so I was like, "I wanna make sure this happens."

• 8:15Speaker 02

  It's true, 'cause you're a Kansas City legend.

• 8:16Speaker 03

  I know.

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  I was thinking of you the other day, actually, 'cause you did the, our benefit show last year.

• 8:21Speaker 03

  Dude, that was...

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  You were so great on it.

• 8:22Speaker 03

  I'm still talking to people about that.

• 8:24Speaker 02

  It's so fun, right?

• 8:24Speaker 03

  It's so cool knowing what you're doing for that city. I think that I, it's one of those things that I really am like, just proud, to one, know you, and to also know that we had a similar kind of like comedy training background.

• 8:39Speaker 03

  But I don't know, I think that what you're doing for the city, and also to know there's someone in Kansas City besides Tech 9.

• 8:44Speaker 02

  Tech! Mr. 9!

• 8:47Speaker 03

  Have you met Mr. Aaron?

• 8:48Speaker 02

  Dude.

• 8:48Speaker 03

  Aaron Yates yet?

• 8:49Speaker 02

  Dude, he, he told a friend of mine once, we were at the same event, I, there was a tweet years ago that was very formative to Chance and I, that was like, "Nobody fucks with Tech 9 like white boys from the suburbs of Kansas City." And I was like, "It's correct."

• 9:01Speaker 03

  Yeah.

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  I fucking love Tech 9, and I, we met him at an event, and they, my friend, I don't remember what they said exactly, they're like, "Uh, missed, I don't, do I call you Tech 9 or Tech?" Or he was like, "Mr. 9."

• 9:13Speaker 03

  He's the man, dude.

• 9:14Speaker 02

  Tech nine fucking rips. For anyone who doesn't know, look up Tech nine's music. He's a Kansas City rapper. He's a fucking legend.

• 9:19Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 9:20Speaker 02

  He's actually doing so much for the city. I do nothing for the city. I throw a one benefit show that basically just showcases what people are actually doing in the city, but it is so fun to do every year. I love it so much. It's our next one's coming up soon.

• 9:31Speaker 03

  It's so dope.

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  I love it. It's really fun and it's, it's, um, it's so fun to get to like bring people in for it.

• 9:37Speaker 03

  Mm hmm.

• 9:37Speaker 02

  We did it around Thanksgiving, the first couple of years and it was so hard to get people.

• 9:40Speaker 03

  Lineup, dude, that lineup like Japanese breakfast.

• 9:43Speaker 02

  Yeah, she was great, right?

• 9:44Speaker 03

  Insane.

• 9:45Speaker 02

  Yeah, Michelle, I love her.

• 9:46Speaker 03

  That was one of the coolest things to also just witness and like the movement. I forget the organization's name and I feel really bad about that also, but even who it was for. I mean, I don't know, the entire night was absolutely incredible. And I don't know, I'm just really, I'm really proud of you, man.

• 10:00Speaker 02

  Thanks, dude. And Freedom Affair, who fucking rips? They're awesome. They played last year. They're playing again this year.

• 10:04Speaker 03

  Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

• 10:05Speaker 02

  They're so good.

• 10:06Speaker 03

  And then freaking Taylor Tomlinson.

• 10:07Speaker 02

  Dude, Taylor was great.

• 10:08Speaker 03

  I know.

• 10:09Speaker 02

  Taylor was so great. I love that girl. She, I basically texted her and was like, hey, I looked at, I, cause I always look at anybody who has like a public calendar.

• 10:16Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 10:17Speaker 02

  I check before I ask them anything. Cause I'm like, I don't want to bother you if it's like public information that you're busy.

• 10:21Speaker 03

  For sure.

• 10:22Speaker 02

  And I checked her touring schedule and it said she had like two nights off between like Milwaukee and Phoenix or something. And I was like, well, fuck, I mean, I'll, I'll ask it. It'd be no big deal if she said no. I was like, would you want to spend one of your nights off coming and doing this benefit show for no money? And she was like, absolutely. I'll be there.

• 10:38Speaker 03

  That's so sick.

• 10:38Speaker 02

  And I was like, dude, that's the coolest thing ever.

• 10:40Speaker 03

  That's so sick.

• 10:40Speaker 02

  Taylor fucking rocks.

• 10:41Speaker 03

  Yeah, the industry, the entertainment industry gets a bad rep, but there are a lot of really good people.

• 10:47Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 10:47Speaker 03

  And I think just like, I'm trying to collect all of them like infinity stones.

• 10:51Speaker 02

  I think you're doing it.

• 10:51Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 10:52Speaker 02

  Seems like you've got good people around you.

• 10:53Speaker 03

  Yeah, I feel really good about like our wave of entertainment, like trying to be less problematic and trying to create good spaces for people to have fun and be able to showcase their creativity. It's kind of just really all I'm about as I age into an old man.

• 11:08Speaker 02

  How, how old are you?

• 11:09Speaker 03

  I'm thirty. We're the same age.

• 11:10Speaker 02

  How old are you in your spirit?

• 11:11Speaker 03

  I feel like I am twenty seven, but that's because of the pandemic.

• 11:15Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 11:16Speaker 03

  You know, like I do feel like.

• 11:17Speaker 02

  Years off of you.

• 11:18Speaker 03

  Yeah, I didn't get.

• 11:18Speaker 02

  Years away from you.

• 11:19Speaker 03

  I, I didn't get any experience. Like I just read and watched like YouTube videos. It's like, I, I feel like maybe I learned more, but I didn't get to experience. So like post that, I don't really feel like a thirty, a thirty year, I'm thirty one actually, and that's sad that I just realized that as well.

• 11:33Speaker 02

  That's beautiful.

• 11:33Speaker 03

  Yeah, I guess.

• 11:34Speaker 02

  Completely beautiful to be thirty one. Thirty one's the perfect age.

• 11:37Speaker 03

  It is.

• 11:37Speaker 02

  Until next year when I'm thirty two.

• 11:38Speaker 03

  No, but why does thirty one feel older than thirty two? Do you ever get that feeling?

• 11:43Speaker 02

  There are ages like this where it's like you're, this age feels older than the, like forty somehow feels younger than thirty five to me.

• 11:49Speaker 03

  Yes, it does.

• 11:49Speaker 02

  If that makes sense.

• 11:50Speaker 03

  It does.

• 11:50Speaker 02

  There's just something, something happens with the years.

• 11:53Speaker 03

  Is it an even number? Do even numbers feel younger than odd numbers?

• 11:58Speaker 02

  Maybe. And also I, you talking about COVID and just like watching YouTube videos and reading books is like, don't you find it funny? The people who always want to talk to you the most about how hard COVID was, they're like never ICU nurses. They're always like people that were gardening.

• 12:10Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 12:12Speaker 02

  Like it was so hard. I couldn't go to dinner. It's like, well, it was hard. A lot of people died, but you were chilling.

• 12:17Speaker 03

  We have the house, you know? I'm like, well, you have the house, so.

• 12:19Speaker 02

  And I'm one of those people, by the way, when it was happening, I was like, this can't happen to me. I, I gotta get out. I'm young.

• 12:24Speaker 03

  Yeah, it was a very, because we were like our mid twenties.

• 12:27Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 12:27Speaker 03

  We're in mid twenties were like the time where you would like experience a lot. You would go out, you would meet new people. And then like I just got out and was with the same people.

• 12:35Speaker 02

  Dude, if you ever hear me complaining about COVID, feel free to beat my ass. Cause I had it good.

• 12:40Speaker 03

  That's right. Wait, what was your say?

• 12:41Speaker 02

  I had just, I had spent the first half of my twenties working shit day jobs that I fucking hated.

• 12:46Speaker 03

  In Chicago?

• 12:47Speaker 02

  In Chicago.

• 12:48Speaker 03

  Where were you working?

• 12:49Speaker 02

  I, everywhere. I had every job. I worked at a finance firm. I worked at a nonprofit. I walked dogs. I did social media. I like everything you could think of.

• 12:55Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 12:55Speaker 02

  Which is to say I got fired a lot, which is to say I usually quit before, right before they could fire me. They'd be like, can we see you on Friday at four PM? And I'd be like, no, cause I quit.

• 13:05Speaker 02

  You can't see me Friday at four PM because I quit bitch. Nice try. Um, but yeah, it was COVID came at this time where like I was, I had just stopped working day jobs. I had just gotten my first writer's room.

• 13:15Speaker 03

  Oh, wow.

• 13:16Speaker 02

  And so I had moved to LA during the very first part of COVID and then I worked in remote writers rooms for all of COVID. So I was like doing my dream, making more money than I'd ever made.

• 13:24Speaker 03

  So sick.

• 13:25Speaker 02

  No, I got crazy lucky and I made new friends because I was in LA and we could do outdoor shit from distance.

• 13:29Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 13:30Speaker 02

  And yeah, it was COVID came at the time. I feel bad for like teenagers.

• 13:34Speaker 03

  Me too.

• 13:35Speaker 02

  I, for, for me, I was like, I had worked enough and been in the real world just long enough that I was like, a break sounds.

• 13:41Speaker 03

  Nice.

• 13:42Speaker 02

  Kinda good, yeah.

• 13:43Speaker 03

  We kind of got like an intermission.

• 13:45Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 13:45Speaker 03

  It's kind of what I think. We got an intermission.

• 13:47Speaker 02

  Stretch out a little bit.

• 13:48Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 13:48Speaker 02

  Come back to it.

• 13:49Speaker 03

  And like process all the mistakes I made in the previous five years. Now let's come back a better person. Did I? I don't know.

• 13:54Speaker 02

  I don't know.

• 13:55Speaker 03

  But at the same time, it, teenagers definitely had it the worst. Cause you didn't get those formative years, like those years of like trying to figure out who you are, all of that being inside, I think it'd be really hard.

• 14:06Speaker 02

  If you were twelve to twenty two, I feel the worst for you about COVID.

• 14:09Speaker 03

  Mm hmm.

• 14:10Speaker 02

  That's what I feel.

• 14:11Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 14:11Speaker 02

  Everyone else, except for the people who passed.

• 14:14Speaker 03

  Yes. R I P.

• 14:15Speaker 02

  Chance, stop laughing. That's not funny. Chance is laughing at that. You see the kind of stuff he gets away with off camera?

• 14:20Speaker 03

  Oh my gosh.

• 14:21Speaker 02

  That's crazy.

• 14:22Speaker 03

  And, and stop it. It's not, I don't like that kind of stuff.

• 14:24Speaker 02

  And people do think he's like a benevolent, magnanimous, like, oh, Chance is so, I love his laugh in the back. That's the kind of shit he's doing over there off camera.

• 14:30Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's giving malevolence.

• 14:32Speaker 02

  He's not a good guy.

• 14:33Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 14:33Speaker 02

  He's not a good guy.

• 14:34Speaker 03

  I don't like that.

• 14:35Speaker 02

  Sorry. Thank you, Chance. That meant the world and we accept that and we welcome you back into the community.

• 14:40Speaker 03

  High chance.

• 14:40Speaker 02

  We welcome you back into the fold. Do you, do you like being alive? What's your take on being alive? Are you enjoying it?

• 14:46Speaker 03

  That's a hard question. I think I.

• 14:50Speaker 02

  Cause I was thinking on the drive over here. I'll give you the context.

• 14:52Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 14:53Speaker 02

  I was thinking on the drive over here about life was actually low key way easier when I didn't care if I lived.

• 14:57Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 14:58Speaker 02

  And now that I'm like, I love being alive, it actually sucks. You have to pay attention to so many things. I like worry about vitamins. That sucks.

• 15:05Speaker 03

  It does suck.

• 15:06Speaker 02

  Cause I want to live.

• 15:07Speaker 03

  It does suck.

• 15:08Speaker 02

  That's crazy.

• 15:09Speaker 03

  I'm gonna get dark if you really want to get dark.

• 15:10Speaker 02

  Who gives a fuck?

• 15:11Speaker 03

  I do love being alive.

• 15:12Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 15:13Speaker 03

  But I think I really am realizing that people are the reason why I love being alive. Like I love relationships. I love connecting with people and I think that that's, yeah, when you're an artist, it's very easy to kind of get into your own bubble, but even like with the production that you have, I'm like, it takes a village, like it takes a team.

• 15:29Speaker 02

  It's mostly me, but there's people around, yeah.

• 15:31Speaker 03

  But for the past like few weeks, I have just been a lot more curious about death.

• 15:35Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 15:35Speaker 03

  So I've just been watching like all these really strange videos about like what actually happens because no one wants to talk about that. So I'm like, what actually happens when you die?

• 15:44Speaker 02

  What'd you find out?

• 15:45Speaker 03

  Well, what they say is, is that, you know, your brain does a really good job of allocating which organs need to go first. And then there's just like a slow fade in which all of your memories then begin to start playing.

• 15:58Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 15:58Speaker 03

  And so then that got me in my head and I'm like, am I dying right now?

• 16:02Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 16:02Speaker 03

  Like, is this a memory that's being played in my brain and I'm rewatching that? And then I was like, I need to stop watching this and I went on a walk.

• 16:11Speaker 02

  One of the, yeah, one of the biggest things you can do is stop thinking about death and go for a walk.

• 16:14Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 16:14Speaker 02

  That's one of the biggest things to do.

• 16:16Speaker 03

  Yeah, you gotta take a break. Let me go get a little nice little matcha.

• 16:20Speaker 02

  Yeah, get a matcha.

• 16:21Speaker 03

  Get a matcha and then I went back to my apartment and then I rewatched the video. But I don't know, there's something about death that I, I find both like terrifying, but I remember pre pandemic in twenty nineteen, I made a short film with a friend of mine named Kendall and he had a notification on his phone. I'll never forget this. We were, uh, we were doing like one of those like twenty four hour like film festivals.

• 16:42Speaker 02

  Oh, those are fun, yeah.

• 16:43Speaker 03

  Yeah, super fun. And he had a notification on his phone while we were editing said movie and, uh, it said, remember you're gonna die.

• 16:51Speaker 02

  What, that comes up every day?

• 16:52Speaker 03

  Yes. And then he took a second, he looked at it and he goes,

• 16:58Speaker 03

  and then just went right.

• 17:01Speaker 03

  And I was like, what the actual fuck is this?

• 17:04Speaker 02

  Not the deep breath.

• 17:05Speaker 03

  And also who programmed that app?

• 17:07Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 17:08Speaker 03

  I don't, I, and I'm so curious to know if that app, if anyone watching knows that this app exists, I'm so curious to know what it is, but that I think is what started my fascination, but I've been scared to fully dive into it.

• 17:18Speaker 02

  It's actually helpful though. I do think, I sometimes am moving through the world and hearing myself and hearing people around me complain about stuff or get bent out of shape about stuff or worry about stuff that I'm like, we all do forget a little too often, I think that it's gonna end.

• 17:33Speaker 03

  You get wrapped in the rigmarole.

• 17:34Speaker 02

  If you knew you were gonna die tomorrow, you cer, which is like silly because you can't live like that, but it's like, you simply wouldn't give a fuck about this at all.

• 17:41Speaker 03

  A thousand percent.

• 17:41Speaker 02

  Even if you knew you were gonna die in six months.

• 17:43Speaker 03

  A thousand percent.

• 17:43Speaker 02

  There's stuff that you'd just be like, fuck, I don't give a fuck.

• 17:45Speaker 03

  It's like, do I want to spend all of my time like watching all of these reality shows on Peacock? Or do I actually want to go outside and actually make something happen? And when I've realized that it's a little bit of both. Like I still, and I do feel like that is a part of existing. Like the part that I get to live in a universe in which Below Deck exists, I think is actually kind of cool and kind of magical when you think about the grand scheme of life. So I do want to appreciate that.

• 18:10Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 18:11Speaker 03

  But at the same time, I also need to appreciate the natural, the natural.

• 18:14Speaker 02

  Yeah, get to earth maybe, get outside, touch something.

• 18:17Speaker 03

  Yeah. Do you want to explore space?

• 18:20Speaker 02

  Not, let me tell you something.

• 18:23Speaker 02

  No.

• 18:24Speaker 03

  Not even close to it?

• 18:25Speaker 02

  Not, don't fucking ever.

• 18:26Speaker 03

  You're not curious a little bit what that would be like?

• 18:28Speaker 02

  Fuck no.

• 18:29Speaker 03

  Really?

• 18:30Speaker 02

  Fuck no.

• 18:31Speaker 03

  Why?

• 18:31Speaker 02

  Fuck outer space. And another thing, fuck the ocean.

• 18:35Speaker 03

  Why?

• 18:36Speaker 02

  Do you understand that when, do you, have you ever listened to or read interviews of people who come back from space? And I'm not talking like when they sent Gayle King up there with Lauren Sanchez. I'm talking to people, real astronauts that have really been to outer space.

• 18:47Speaker 03

  I can't say I have, no.

• 18:49Speaker 02

  They, their, their interviews are fuck, they come back and they're like, I saw everything for what it was and I can never go back to the way I felt before. I don't need that shit.

• 18:58Speaker 03

  Kinda cool though.

• 18:59Speaker 02

  The fuck?

• 19:00Speaker 03

  Just a little bit.

• 19:02Speaker 02

  Dude, I can't, I, I'll have a panic attack, not right now, I hope.

• 19:05Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 19:06Speaker 02

  But like, when you really think about, when you really think about how small we are?

• 19:12Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 19:12Speaker 02

  And how little we matter?

• 19:13Speaker 03

  It's crazy.

• 19:14Speaker 02

  It doesn't matter. None of this matters.

• 19:16Speaker 03

  Crazy.

• 19:16Speaker 02

  It doesn't matter. There, I, there's this thing that comes, that gets searched to me all the time online, on like Instagram, uh, fucking feed. That's like, really cute illustrations, actually.

• 19:27Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 19:27Speaker 02

  But it's like, in a hundred years, uh, all of us will be dead.

• 19:32Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 19:32Speaker 02

  In 200 years, uh, everybody that you, like all, anybody that, your kids or, or whatever will also be dead.

• 19:39Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 19:39Speaker 02

  And it's like, in 300 years, nobody will remember your name or what you did. And I think all the time about like, whoever the most famous person alive was, or the most talented writer, or the funniest guy.

• 19:48Speaker 03

  Doesn't matter.

• 19:48Speaker 02

  In 1700 something, not only do I not know who it was, I don't give a fuck.

• 19:53Speaker 03

  It's the truth.

• 19:53Speaker 02

  And that's gonna happen to us too.

• 19:55Speaker 03

  It's the truth.

• 19:55Speaker 02

  So I'm like, I don't, I just am like, do I need to like, go outside of the earth, my home, which I love? And see for sure how small we are?

• 20:05Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 20:06Speaker 02

  And how fragile? Don't get me started thinking about asteroids. Cause they come around.

• 20:11Speaker 03

  Anxiety, they do come around.

• 20:12Speaker 02

  They come close.

• 20:13Speaker 03

  I actually just got to see a meteor shower, actually this past weekend.

• 20:17Speaker 02

  They come around.

• 20:17Speaker 03

  They come around. And the entire time I was thinking about the man that broke into my house. And I was like, that's not fair.

• 20:21Speaker 02

  Of course.

• 20:22Speaker 03

  Cause I was like trying to take in the beauty, but then that was just like a reoccurring thought. And I'm like, I can't even enjoy this moment.

• 20:26Speaker 02

  You got a little bit of PTSD, yeah.

• 20:27Speaker 03

  Oh, for sure.

• 20:27Speaker 02

  He was in your space.

• 20:28Speaker 03

  But anxiety is weird like that. Like, there's like weird things that will like trigger my anxiety. It's crazy how that's your thing. Like, I have a friend back home named Ben, who recently told me, and it was, I, I was pretty proud of him for like, revealing this to me, but he told me that his anxiety was. The entire time in high school, his anxiety was his mom was paying us to be his friends.

• 20:50Speaker 02

  Was she?

• 20:51Speaker 03

  No.

• 20:52Speaker 02

  Oh, okay.

• 20:54Speaker 02

  It's like, like, what, where did he come up with that?

• 20:57Speaker 03

  I don't know. But that's why I'm like, that would never give me anxiety. Like, if I knew that my mom was paying my friends, I'd be like, let's fucking go. There's a trust fund coming.

• 21:05Speaker 02

  I tried to do a bit with these guys last night, Nicole, Chance and Michelle, we were driving home from dinner.

• 21:09Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 21:09Speaker 02

  And I was like, I was like, you know, I was gonna do like a bit where I was like playing like, I don't know, like, I was like, when, sometimes when we're all having fun, I wonder if like, you guys are having as much fun as I am, or if you're just pretending because you're at work. And I was like, gonna, I was gonna like, try and turn it into some sort of like joke.

• 21:26Speaker 03

  Got sad.

• 21:27Speaker 02

  Well, I didn't get the chance, I didn't get the chance to play because the three of them all immediately were like, oh Caleb, that's really fucking bleak. Like each, like, it was like, it was like a little wave. It was like, I didn't get the chance to like, play a character, like do this guy. I guess I was gonna play like some sort of like CEO guy or something, but literally at first Nicole goes like, oh, that's not, and then Chance is like, fuck man, uh, that's so sad. And then Michelle in like quick order was like, oh, that's not really good to hear. Like.

• 21:57Speaker 03

  Dang.

• 21:57Speaker 02

  And I was like, fuck, okay, damn.

• 21:59Speaker 03

  Let me cook.

• 22:00Speaker 02

  Let me cook. I thought we could come up with something here.

• 22:01Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 22:02Speaker 02

  I don't worry about that. I know we're having fun.

• 22:04Speaker 03

  That is so funny though.

• 22:05Speaker 02

  But this, that's this guy's actual thing.

• 22:07Speaker 03

  All day, every day.

• 22:08Speaker 02

  That's fucked.

• 22:09Speaker 03

  It's the same exact thing.

• 22:10Speaker 02

  I didn't, I will say, I didn't like the re, the way the reaction felt to me saying that.

• 22:14Speaker 03

  Yeah, I know.

• 22:14Speaker 02

  So I can't imagine what the actual feeling feels like.

• 22:16Speaker 03

  Or, does that mean it's true?

• 22:18Speaker 02

  That they're, that they're all on the payroll and they pretend to have fun with me?

• 22:21Speaker 03

  I mean, who knows?

• 22:21Speaker 02

  I don't think so because none of them are like, super nice or talented. So it's like, they're not kind enough to do that performance. And if they were, they don't have the goods to pull it off.

• 22:31Speaker 03

  You're right, you're right, you're right, you're right.

• 22:33Speaker 02

  The three of them, okay. The room is silent. They all three had their heads in their hands. No, no, no, I love them. But yeah, I, the death stuff comes up a lot at, at work. Cause when they ask for like fair treatment or better hours, I go, just remember.

• 22:47Speaker 03

  Yeah, exactly. Like, you will fucking die before you get this shit.

• 22:50Speaker 02

  You will die. In a hundred years, no one will know what time you showed up for work today.

• 22:52Speaker 03

  Yeah. So why are we talking about this?

• 22:53Speaker 02

  So let's just show up.

• 22:54Speaker 03

  That's what I'm saying.

• 22:55Speaker 02

  Yeah. They, they have it pretty bad, but.

• 22:57Speaker 03

  But you're kinda killing it right now though also.

• 22:58Speaker 02

  Yeah, I'm happy to. And it's nice to abuse. I'm using my power to abuse these people and it feels good.

• 23:05Speaker 03

  But see, this is also making me, I, I, again, going back to we're super small, this is one thing that gets me. The majority of people, I feel like, not you, but the majority of people in positions of power in a lot of sectors are mentally unwell.

• 23:18Speaker 02

  One hundred percent.

• 23:19Speaker 03

  And I, I, I, even like the GM of like a Bask in Robbins.

• 23:22Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 23:25Speaker 02

  Almost certainly.

• 23:26Speaker 03

  Yes, definitely. It's just too many org. Like, it's, it's a weird phenomenon that I feel like no one is talking about enough.

• 23:31Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 23:31Speaker 03

  Like, any like, small business sometimes, like the person at the very, very top, not talking about like the manager, even if they're just managing like a few stores, they're just mentally unwell, but it's a broken system. And it's not putting enough care into how we can mend that. How do we make that better? Or can you not make that better? I don't know.

• 23:48Speaker 02

  What better?

• 23:48Speaker 03

  But that's a thing that I have.

• 23:49Speaker 02

  The employee relationship with employer, what better?

• 23:51Speaker 03

  Hmm, I think the idea of like, being able to alleviate that, what's making you so stressed? Is it the amount of work? Is it also your bills on top of that mean that you're also experiencing a whole new wave of problems that no one can ever fathom? Like, it's just an interesting thing. Does that mean that your human experience should actually be to not achieve? Like, it's, it puts you in a weird headspace of just wondering like, what is the point of all of this?

• 24:16Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 24:16Speaker 03

  Like, what is the point of taking on all these different responsibilities and stress? And maybe this is me justifying being lazy. And I have no idea, you know?

• 24:23Speaker 02

  But why not? Why not be lazy?

• 24:25Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 24:26Speaker 02

  Or do or don't, I don't know, it doesn't matter.

• 24:27Speaker 03

  And maybe there's no, no rules to it and that's just what it is.

• 24:29Speaker 02

  I think the point is to have fun.

• 24:31Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 24:31Speaker 02

  And like, love people and be in love and be loved and show love. I think the point is to make this as, I really think the point of being alive is to make the experience, for some reason, I don't know if there's like a person who wants us to do this or what it is. For some reason, I think the point is to make it as enjoyable as possible.

• 24:49Speaker 03

  I think so too.

• 24:50Speaker 02

  For as many people as possible, not just for yourself.

• 24:52Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 24:52Speaker 02

  To just make it as nice, to have as many pleasant interactions as you can, to just kind of create heaven on earth, to the extent that you're able.

• 24:59Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 25:00Speaker 02

  And that's it. I think that's the point.

• 25:02Speaker 03

  That's, that's a beautiful sentiment.

• 25:03Speaker 02

  I hope it's true.

• 25:06Speaker 02

  I don't know what happens when we die. I don't know if that's gonna be good enough.

• 25:09Speaker 03

  Can you imagine getting to heaven and God's like, did you get the flag? You're like, oh, there was a flag.

• 25:12Speaker 02

  Fuck!

• 25:13Speaker 03

  There was a flag.

• 25:14Speaker 02

  I was supposed to capture the flag.

• 25:15Speaker 03

  Are you kidding me, dude?

• 25:16Speaker 02

  I was just hanging out.

• 25:17Speaker 03

  I was being so nice to everybody.

• 25:19Speaker 02

  I probably could've captured.

• 25:20Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 25:21Speaker 02

  I could've captured the flag. I didn't know it was there.

• 25:23Speaker 03

  No one gave me that rulebook.

• 25:24Speaker 02

  Dude.

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• 29:07Speaker 02

  Yeah, I don't know. Whatever with, whatever with death. It'll happen, I guess.

• 29:10Speaker 03

  Did you grow up religious?

• 29:11Speaker 02

  Sure.

• 29:12Speaker 03

  Yeah, we grew up right in the Bible belt.

• 29:14Speaker 02

  Yeah. I will say I was lucky though, because my mom, you know what my mom said the other day? This was really funny. My mom is a really interesting person, just in general.

• 29:20Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 29:21Speaker 02

  I find her so fascinating and brilliant. And she, we were at lunch the other day, and she was like, she, we were talking about, we'd, sometimes we'll go to lunch in Kansas City and we'll just kind of get into like, life and like, you know, the big questions. And we were talking, and keep in mind, we're at a sports bar, and

• 29:39Speaker 03

  Which one?

• 29:40Speaker 02

  We're at a sports, we're at

• 29:40Speaker 03

  Tanner's right there?

• 29:41Speaker 02

  Oh, I don't have to, I don't have to code with you. You know what the fuck I'm talking about?

• 29:43Speaker 03

  Yeah, dude.

• 29:44Speaker 02

  Dude, we were at fucking The Peanut.

• 29:45Speaker 03

  That's awesome. The Peanut is sick. Shout out to The Peanut there. Yeah, right there on Brookside. Yeah, that's it.

• 29:51Speaker 02

  We were at The Peanut by a table of sixteen, uh, like, finance bros at their summer internship.

• 29:56Speaker 03

  That's funny.

• 29:57Speaker 02

  Um, and my mom are cutting it up about like faith and the what happens when we die.

• 30:00Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 30:01Speaker 02

  And I go, she, she somehow comes up and she goes, do you ever think that like, maybe this is your last time on earth? And I go, what do you mean? She goes, well, I, sometimes I think that we get sent back when we die, we get sent back to, until we like, learn whatever lesson we were supposed to learn. Like, we didn't learn it in our first five lifetimes.

• 30:17Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 30:17Speaker 02

  The sixth lifetime, you come back, you're, you're just, keep getting sent back until you learn the thing you're supposed to learn.

• 30:21Speaker 03

  Wow.

• 30:22Speaker 02

  And I was like, no, I've never really thought about whether or not it's my last time. I've thought about a lot whether or not it's my first time. Cause I feel that I've been on earth many times before this lifetime.

• 30:31Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 30:32Speaker 02

  I feel so old. I feel, I feel so like I've done this.

• 30:35Speaker 03

  Old soul for sure.

• 30:36Speaker 02

  Yeah. And anyway, we're talking about that, and I, the funny thing is, I go, okay, how do you square, to my mom, she's Christian. Never been a big church person, never been very like dogmatic. She's always just like, you're supposed to love everybody.

• 30:48Speaker 03

  Be a good person. My mom's the same way too.

• 30:49Speaker 02

  And I go, how do you square this like very eastern kind of like karmic reincarnation belief that you have?

• 30:56Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 30:57Speaker 02

  With like your belief in like, heaven and Jesus Christ and God?

• 31:02Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 31:02Speaker 02

  And she like takes a sip of her beer and goes, I've never thought about that a day in my life.

• 31:10Speaker 03

  And can I just say legend?

• 31:11Speaker 02

  Legend.

• 31:12Speaker 03

  Absolute legend.

• 31:14Speaker 02

  And I was like, what do you mean you've never thought about it? Cause if you believe in Christianity, you believe that when you die, you either go to heaven or hell.

• 31:20Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 31:21Speaker 02

  You know, you don't have to believe in that, but that's like the traditional.

• 31:23Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 31:23Speaker 02

  And I was like, that can't be true if you're getting sent back. And she was like,

• 31:28Speaker 03

  Sue me.

• 31:29Speaker 02

  Yeah. She's like, I don't care.

• 31:31Speaker 03

  That's

• 31:32Speaker 02

  Cool as fuck.

• 31:32Speaker 03

  That is the, you have a cool mom.

• 31:34Speaker 02

  Legendary shit.

• 31:35Speaker 03

  It's a cool, cool mom, man.

• 31:37Speaker 02

  I'm a Christian and a Buddhist. What's next?

• 31:39Speaker 03

  There's nothing wrong, I think it's, I think that there's nothing wrong with, and a lot of people be mad about this, but like, I try to, I, I treat religion or like beliefs kind of like a buffet.

• 31:46Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 31:46Speaker 03

  Like, you know what I mean? I'm grabbing a little bit of this, a little bit of that.

• 31:49Speaker 02

  Taking this one if it looks good?

• 31:50Speaker 03

  Yeah, just a little bit, like what makes me feel good, like what fills me up. And I feel like I've kind of have like my own personal belief system, like this is mine. Like even what you're saying about feeling so connected and that you've been here before, there is a weird philosophy, and I don't know the name of it. I don't know, it's like a long time ago. But it's this idea that you individually reincarnate as everybody.

• 32:11Speaker 02

  What?

• 32:12Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 32:12Speaker 02

  How?

• 32:13Speaker 03

  And that your role, your role is to literally come back as everyone. So you would take on Michelle's perspective. Also, again, that means you're not getting benefits either.

• 32:20Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 32:21Speaker 03

  So you're taking on chances, you're, you're taking on every single person on earth that has lived or ever lived, and you live their entire lifetime until you're finished.

• 32:33Speaker 02

  So that's just like, what the fuck?

• 32:36Speaker 03

  And then you're able to, and then you're able to move on to the next phase.

• 32:40Speaker 02

  So you don't move on until you've lived all eight billion people's lives?

• 32:43Speaker 03

  But it's more than eight billion. It's everyone that's ever lived.

• 32:46Speaker 02

  But then what about the people after you? You don't have to live like them?

• 32:48Speaker 03

  You live like them as well. You're everyone in the history of this simulation of earth.

• 32:52Speaker 02

  It never ends.

• 32:53Speaker 03

  Which I'm trying to break away from the simulation theory, because it was created by Elon Musk. I don't like that kind of stuff.

• 32:57Speaker 02

  Elon Musk created a theory?

• 32:58Speaker 03

  Uh, he said that at like a press conference, and I remember him saying the simulation thing, and then like, everyone in the mom was like, what if we're living in a simulation? And like, at the time, it was cool, but

• 33:08Speaker 02

  What if he's an evil fucking moron and that just benefits him?

• 33:10Speaker 03

  But we didn't know that at the time.

• 33:11Speaker 02

  I knew it.

• 33:12Speaker 03

  Do you remember when he was putting, we're also so ADHD right now?

• 33:15Speaker 02

  I'm with it. I'd have never liked him.

• 33:17Speaker 03

  Cause in this, also that means you have to live like Elon Musk. So we're taking this on. But there was a time when he was trying to put this, like, put on this whole like, billionaires are cool. And like, when I die, I'm also going to be able to give away all of my wealth. So you guys should like me. And like, in the 2010s, I feel like we were very much like, you know what? Some billionaires are kind of cool. And then that just took a sharp turn at the start of 2020.

• 33:39Speaker 02

  You shouldn't get, yeah, you shouldn't get the money in the first place.

• 33:42Speaker 03

  No.

• 33:43Speaker 02

  You shouldn't be dispensing it at, it doesn't make any sense.

• 33:45Speaker 03

  Doesn't make any sense.

• 33:46Speaker 02

  You should be, yeah, I, I've never liked that guy. And the fact that they all want to be funny drives me fucking crazy.

• 33:51Speaker 03

  Yeah, I, dude, you don't, do not even get me started.

• 33:53Speaker 02

  Carolyn Levitt, that stupid bitch.

• 33:55Speaker 03

  Dude, these people are not

• 33:56Speaker 02

  She just did an interview where she was like, what's something, they're like, what's something people don't know about you? And she was like, probably just that I'm silly when I'm not at work. And I'm like, you are not silly bitch. Shut up. No, you are not fucking silly. You know damn well you are not silly. Your husband is sixteen thousand years older than you. You work for Hitler. You'd get up there in these, your face work is horrible. That's not important with silly, but like, it's just a thing to say.

• 34:21Speaker 03

  Not a billionaire being like, I'm kind of quirky.

• 34:23Speaker 02

  You are not silly bitch.

• 34:24Speaker 03

  I'm not like other girls.

• 34:25Speaker 02

  You are not silly. You're a fucking, oh my god, you're a foot soldier for the Gestapo.

• 34:29Speaker 03

  Literally.

• 34:31Speaker 02

  Ew, I'm just like goofy. No, you're not.

• 34:33Speaker 03

  No, you're not. Stop it.

• 34:34Speaker 02

  Leave that to us. We're silly.

• 34:35Speaker 03

  No.

• 34:36Speaker 02

  I'm not even that silly.

• 34:37Speaker 03

  Dude, I, I can't

• 34:40Speaker 02

  I know you're not silly. I'm not that silly.

• 34:42Speaker 03

  No, man. If I was a billionaire, I would be doing the craziest things. I, I would be truly, I think, so silly.

• 34:48Speaker 02

  What would you do day one? Day one of being a billionaire, Brewster's Millions type shit?

• 34:51Speaker 03

  Ugh. I would, I would do like a statue, but like in a really inconvenient place that would affect other billionaires.

• 35:02Speaker 02

  You okay?

• 35:03Speaker 03

  Like something that is just like so provocative, and like, I can't even think of what the exact thing would be, but I would just be, I think messing with others within my immediate group.

• 35:14Speaker 02

  Sure, you're fucking with the other billionaires. You're in the billionaire group chat sending crazy shit.

• 35:17Speaker 03

  Yes, if, if I just accidentally just like got a billion dollars, I would be doing that in a second. I think I would just be like messing with them.

• 35:23Speaker 02

  I do want a statue of myself.

• 35:25Speaker 03

  That's, there's nothing wrong with that.

• 35:26Speaker 02

  When I die, I think just throw a statue of me in Loose Park.

• 35:29Speaker 03

  Ooh.

• 35:29Speaker 02

  I saw a statue of Jacob Luce in Loose Park the other day, and I said, he can't be the only one who gets a statue.

• 35:33Speaker 03

  No, right next to it.

• 35:34Speaker 02

  I don't even know what he did.

• 35:35Speaker 03

  Keep it loose, dude. I, the amount of memories I have in Loose Park, that's like the first place I ever smoked weed. Well, no, is it? No, the first place I smoked weed was in Waldo, and then was in Loose Park like all the time. Like, I don't know if you remember, but like Loose Park was the place.

• 35:51Speaker 02

  It's still the place for me. I'm in there.

• 35:53Speaker 03

  It's so much, but like, there was a time period when I was in high school, where it was just like, hundreds of kids would be there on a Saturday night.

• 36:01Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 36:01Speaker 03

  And would just be drinking, and would just be doing like, all this stuff that I just remember being like, this, I don't think anything gets better than this.

• 36:09Speaker 02

  Yeah, it was, it was good. They used to, we used to have fun on the Plaza too.

• 36:11Speaker 03

  Yeah, the Plaza too, and they, it's, it's actually kind of not as good anymore, which makes me sad.

• 36:15Speaker 02

  Well, it's cause they cracked down. They, they don't want teenagers, whatever, I get it. You don't want teenagers like drunk driving at the Plaza.

• 36:21Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 36:22Speaker 02

  Totally.

• 36:22Speaker 03

  Burn. Kill the vibe, I guess.

• 36:25Speaker 02

  I totally get it. That having been said, there's some beautiful memories.

• 36:30Speaker 03

  I was there for one of those accidental riots on accident.

• 36:33Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 36:34Speaker 03

  I think I had literally just left to go to iSpy with, uh, who was in that? It was Steve Carell and, um,

• 36:41Speaker 02

  Tina Fey. Or no, Melissa McCarthy.

• 36:43Speaker 03

  Yes, whatever, yes.

• 36:44Speaker 02

  Wasn't it Melissa McCarthy in iSpy?

• 36:45Speaker 03

  I think it was from Princess Diaries. What's her name? Anne Hathaway.

• 36:48Speaker 04

  Is this the, oh, this, you're, you're not referring to the 2002 version, are you?

• 36:52Speaker 03

  Steve, no, no, Steve Carell and Anne Hathaway.

• 36:54Speaker 02

  It was just Spy, right?

• 36:55Speaker 03

  Spy. Maybe it was just Spy. Not iSpy.

• 36:57Speaker 02

  Drop the i. Chance, Google Spy.

• 37:01Speaker 04

  Uh, Spy 2015 film. This would have been Melissa McCarthy, Jason Statham.

• 37:07Speaker 03

  Oh, wow.

• 37:07Speaker 04

  I don't think Steve Carell was in this.

• 37:09Speaker 03

  Really? The movie I saw was Steve

• 37:12Speaker 02

  You're thinking of Couples Night. No, you're thinking of Get Smart.

• 37:15Speaker 03

  Get Smart. Get Smart. That was the one. So me and my cousin Carl were leaving to go see Get Smart.

• 37:20Speaker 02

  Who was in it was Steve Carell though?

• 37:21Speaker 03

  Anne Hathaway.

• 37:22Speaker 02

  It was not Anne Hathaway.

• 37:23Speaker 03

  It has to be Anne Hathaway.

• 37:24Speaker 02

  It can't be Anne Hathaway.

• 37:25Speaker 04

  It was an adaptation of a sixties TV series. Uh, here we go. It was Anne Hathaway?

• 37:30Speaker 03

  No! It was.

• 37:31Speaker 02

  It was Anne?

• 37:32Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 37:32Speaker 02

  Shout out, girl.

• 37:33Speaker 03

  I remember that night so perfectly. Went to the McDonald's, cause I don't think it was Noodles and Co yet. I think it was to the McDonald, I don't know. Anyways, then we went to

• 37:41Speaker 02

  This Kansas City ass episode. Getting, getting deep on the Noodles and Co McDonald's transition. Let's go.

• 37:47Speaker 03

  Yeah, so then we went outside and it was just chaos in the streets. People on top of cars, people running in the streets, like cops everywhere, like freaking like pepper spraying people. And we were like, oh, we're in, we just like booked it and just ran.

• 38:00Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 38:01Speaker 03

  People were like hiding in canoes, like in that little lake. Like, it was a wild night, and I will just never forget that. But I remember being like, this was fun.

• 38:09Speaker 02

  Dude, I was in Loose Park the other day.

• 38:11Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 38:12Speaker 02

  I haven't, I've been off weed for a while, so I'm, I usually, when I'm in there, I'm stoned out of my mind. I'm on a walk, I'm so stoned. I'm like on another planet. I've been off weed. I, since I got off weed, I've been more emotional.

• 38:23Speaker 03

  Wow.

• 38:24Speaker 02

  And that's not, by the way, I wasn't crazy on weed before. I was only smoking like two or three times a week.

• 38:28Speaker 03

  For sure.

• 38:28Speaker 02

  Like, I don't know, but I've been way more emotional.

• 38:30Speaker 03

  Have your dreams become more vivid?

• 38:32Speaker 02

  Not that I've noticed, but I'll try to check in. But I was in Loose Park and I was walking and I was down by the pond, and I saw, I looked over, it was like sunset, and I looked over and I saw a big heart made out of flowers, like a huge one, like maybe like seven feet tall.

• 38:44Speaker 03

  Oh, wow.

• 38:44Speaker 02

  And then it had like, like glowing letters on it that said, will you marry me? And right as I looked over, I saw a guy getting down on his, his knee and proposing to his girl. And there's like, probably fifty people around in the park, like walking. Everyone has noticed it and turns and starts cheering and clapping.

• 39:01Speaker 03

  Oh my

• 39:02Speaker 02

  I'm gonna cry again. I started, so I immediately start weeping.

• 39:04Speaker 03

  Oh, wow.

• 39:06Speaker 02

  I'm really sobbing. I'm clapping, I'm cheering. I'm clapping, I look like shit. I'm like, drink, sweat. It's like, oh, ninety-five degrees and I'm in workout clothes. I'm like clapping and cheering, and then I'm weeping. No one else is crying. So then I walk past this bench and there's two older people on it.

• 39:21Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 39:21Speaker 02

  And they see me crying and they, I shit you not, I look down at them like kind of smiling and crying, being like, I'm, like, we're all part of this moment. I look down at them smiling, thinking they'll be crying too, and they go,

• 39:33Speaker 03

  The shade for no reason.

• 39:34Speaker 02

  They just side eyed the fuck out of me.

• 39:36Speaker 03

  That's crazy.

• 39:37Speaker 02

  And they were like an old couple. And I was like, what? You're too good to be moved by this.

• 39:42Speaker 03

  No, that's in, they're from Lenexa. They're from Lenexa.

• 39:47Speaker 02

  I couldn't believe it.

• 39:47Speaker 03

  That's insane.

• 39:48Speaker 02

  It was extremely hurtful.

• 39:49Speaker 03

  That is, yeah, cuz that doesn't feel validating.

• 39:51Speaker 02

  I was right. I mean, I was right.

• 39:52Speaker 03

  You are right in this situation.

• 39:53Speaker 02

  They should've been crying too, or at least smiling at me.

• 39:55Speaker 03

  It's a beautiful thing that I, I, I had the exact opposite thing in Loose Park where I'm like fifteen or sixteen, me and my friend Ben, same deal with the anxiety, are literally, it's also funny and hideous that he thinks his mom is.

• 40:07Speaker 02

  You're at the park with Ben, you're on the clock.

• 40:08Speaker 03

  Yeah, literally. Oh my god, man. Shade was like, was late last week. Um, we're in, and people, they probably still do, used to do weddings in Loose Park.

• 40:16Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 40:17Speaker 03

  So it was a huge wedding. We got high by, I believe the tree was called Tarzan. That's what we call it. It's the one that's like right in the middle and the leaves kinda like hangover. So we're by Tarzan.

• 40:26Speaker 02

  Is it the big racist looking one?

• 40:27Speaker 03

  Probably.

• 40:27Speaker 02

  The one that, one that looks like it's from all the racist movies with the willows?

• 40:30Speaker 03

  Yes, and it spells out all lives matter on the top.

• 40:32Speaker 02

  Yeah, one hundred percent.

• 40:33Speaker 03

  Insane. So we are like, there's all these people at this wedding and we're blazed out of our mind. We walk over and sit in the back row of this wedding.

• 40:42Speaker 02

  Don't have your wedding in the park.

• 40:43Speaker 03

  Amazing moment. We see the bride and groom kiss. They get married and him and I start crying.

• 40:49Speaker 02

  Hell, yeah.

• 40:49Speaker 03

  Right at the, we're like fifteen or sixteen, we stand up with everyone, we clap.

• 40:54Speaker 03

  Such a beautiful, amazing moment. Our eyes look like Satan's penis.

• 40:58Speaker 02

  Yeah, just red, gnarled.

• 41:02Speaker 03

  But no one questioned us being there.

• 41:03Speaker 02

  Of course not. They're in the park.

• 41:04Speaker 03

  Yeah, exactly. Exactly. It was just left. It's so beautiful.

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• 45:19Speaker 02

  Yeah, I was, I feel let down by that couple. I feel that they should've smiled at me.

• 45:23Speaker 03

  That's not fair.

• 45:24Speaker 02

  I feel that they should've cried and smiled.

• 45:25Speaker 03

  I'm sorry. Hey, well, hey.

• 45:27Speaker 02

  Thanks, dude.

• 45:28Speaker 03

  Of course.

• 45:28Speaker 02

  That means everything. God, I wish I was crying right now.

• 45:30Speaker 03

  I know.

• 45:31Speaker 02

  When'd you cry the last time?

• 45:32Speaker 03

  Dude, well, I mean.

• 45:33Speaker 02

  Not, not about the knife.

• 45:37Speaker 03

  No, I actually can't say, well, I weeped probably like about five days ago for a friend that gave me very exciting news.

• 45:45Speaker 02

  Oh, my god.

• 45:45Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 45:46Speaker 02

  It's their news?

• 45:47Speaker 03

  Their news.

• 45:47Speaker 02

  Oh, my god.

• 45:48Speaker 03

  It's, it's one of those things too, like knowing, especially like at this point, like you've just, you have creative friends that are like also now like your best friends and you kinda know what they've been through and you know like what they've overcome and like, and so when something like this massive happens, it's one of those things that just like, it just makes you just, just like utterly just start crying. Cuz I can just feel like that pain, but you stuck with it.

• 46:11Speaker 02

  A comic friend?

• 46:12Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 46:13Speaker 02

  Damn, that's crazy. I can't wait to hear the news.

• 46:15Speaker 03

  It's really, really exciting. And I'm very happy and I, I don't know. I just, I just love that type of stuff.

• 46:21Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 46:21Speaker 03

  Love that kinda stuff.

• 46:22Speaker 02

  One of my favorite moments in comedy, it happens every year, is when the SNL announcements start happening.

• 46:28Speaker 03

  Really?

• 46:29Speaker 02

  And people, I don't give a fuck about that show or who gets on it, but I do like how much everyone, everyone else, everyone in comedy knows like to a month or so before the announcement.

• 46:39Speaker 03

  For sure, for sure.

• 46:39Speaker 02

  It's really fun when people are like, they got a good one.

• 46:42Speaker 03

  For sure.

• 46:43Speaker 02

  When it's someone that everyone's like, that person is really funny. They've been working really hard.

• 46:46Speaker 03

  And I feel that way about, about Cam Patterson.

• 46:48Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 46:48Speaker 03

  I feel that way about Cam Patterson. Like, I met Cam like when he was kind of in like the throes of like Kill Tony and stuff. And like, I think with anyone from like that platform and that you have like a certain air, but like the nicest and one of the kindest humans that I think that I've ever like done shows with, interacted with and like him getting that just filled me with so much joy.

• 47:09Speaker 02

  I love, I think Cam is so funny.

• 47:10Speaker 03

  He's so freaking funny, so naturally talented and like I just think his future is so bright.

• 47:15Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 47:15Speaker 03

  And so like that really made me happy also. And to know that, and to also now be in like a new environment for him to be able to learn and be able to grow. Like, I was like, that's really sick.

• 47:22Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 47:23Speaker 03

  Yeah, that's not like rooted in Austin, Texas. You know what I mean? Which is not actually, I don't want Kill Tony to be the representation of Austin, Texas, but you know what I mean?

• 47:31Speaker 02

  It's not. There's an actually good comedy scene there.

• 47:33Speaker 03

  There is, there is. There really is. Yeah.

• 47:35Speaker 02

  Fuck Kill Tony.

• 47:37Speaker 02

  I can't stand those fucking losers.

• 47:38Speaker 03

  Yeah, there was a time when like Kill Tony, I feel like also, I feel like some of it is like subsided, but there was a time when people were looking at it like, kinda like America's Got Talent. And so comics were just kind of like, are you gonna go do it? And I was like, no, I'm not gonna go do it.

• 47:52Speaker 02

  It's dinner for schmucks.

• 47:53Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 47:53Speaker 02

  He's a, he's a talentless fucking loser.

• 47:56Speaker 03

  No.

• 47:56Speaker 02

  And he gets off on bringing up people that he knows are not, mostly not gonna be very good.

• 48:01Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 48:01Speaker 02

  And then we all laugh at them and isn't it funny that they tried this even though they're not good at it? Not really.

• 48:05Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 48:06Speaker 02

  I fucking, that whole crowd of people, I'm so just like, ugh.

• 48:10Speaker 03

  Over it.

• 48:10Speaker 02

  I, I, I got a bunch of hate messages, kill yourself type shit recently cuz I said, I told a story about some straight guy at a bar asking me if I was, if I had ever, ever been on Kill Tony.

• 48:19Speaker 03

  Oh, wow.

• 48:20Speaker 02

  And I said I'd rather fucking die. And.

• 48:22Speaker 03

  People came after you for that?

• 48:23Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah. Because the Kill Tony crowd, they all have this weird, a lot of these fans of that have this weird, um, like belief that they're like some true defenders of comedy or something, that they're some like last bastion of free speech, when they're all actually just a bunch of like ignorant, talentless pussies.

• 48:40Speaker 03

  And low hanging fruit. That's all they're going for.

• 48:42Speaker 02

  Yeah, it doesn't matter what you think of me cuz I'm an actual comic and you're not. And like, I don't, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. You're like a fan of Kill Tony, but yeah, they're in my DMs like, you know.

• 48:50Speaker 03

  That's crazy. And at the same time, it's like, you guys, you, you, you have so many other things that you could be doing. So many other things. And even if they just took a second and just watched the comedy on your page, I think their minds at that point would also just be blown. It's like, hey, while you're here, why don't you just take a second and just peruse?

• 49:09Speaker 02

  Hey, don't DM me privately to kill myself. Put it in the comments.

• 49:12Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 49:13Speaker 02

  Share, maybe share it and say, I wish this guy would kill himself.

• 49:15Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 49:17Speaker 02

  Let's run the numbers up.

• 49:18Speaker 03

  Any promo is good promo.

• 49:20Speaker 02

  All press is good press. I'm down with it. I'm like, whatever you need to do.

• 49:23Speaker 03

  So let's push each other out, fam. Let's build together.

• 49:25Speaker 02

  Yeah. You hate me, let that be known. Let people know what you're about.

• 49:28Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 49:28Speaker 02

  Put my stuff out there.

• 49:29Speaker 03

  That's all it is.

• 49:30Speaker 02

  It could be a beautiful partnership.

• 49:31Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 49:31Speaker 02

  People aren't community minded like that.

• 49:33Speaker 03

  It's kinda like what Andrew Tate did. I'm sorry, I'm not gonna keep talking.

• 49:37Speaker 02

  Didn't he get arrested in Chinos recently?

• 49:39Speaker 03

  Oh, yes he did. And that, his fit, you see his fit he was wearing?

• 49:41Speaker 02

  He was wearing like Gauchos.

• 49:42Speaker 03

  So freaking funny.

• 49:43Speaker 02

  He was real, he, he has the trashest fits of all time.

• 49:46Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 49:46Speaker 02

  Gotta be the worst thing about it.

• 49:47Speaker 03

  No, yeah, I think my, he was wearing Capris.

• 49:51Speaker 02

  He was wearing Capris.

• 49:51Speaker 03

  He was wearing Capris.

• 49:52Speaker 02

  He wears these tight ass shirts and he's like.

• 49:54Speaker 03

  I'm an alpha male.

• 49:55Speaker 02

  It's like, dude, you're not.

• 49:56Speaker 03

  You look like you went to Ann Taylor.

• 49:58Speaker 02

  You look like a manager at Mauricio's.

• 49:59Speaker 03

  Exactly.

• 50:00Speaker 02

  It's not good.

• 50:01Speaker 03

  What are we doing?

• 50:02Speaker 02

  Yeah, I'm not big on the Tate brothers.

• 50:07Speaker 03

  My hot take.

• 50:09Speaker 02

  Not into it. Lowkey hate sex trafficking, allegedly. Allegedly, just in case. I'm sure they have good lawyers.

• 50:18Speaker 02

  I hate alleged sex trafficking.

• 50:20Speaker 03

  So, it's like, it's like.

• 50:21Speaker 02

  Ew, Chance just pulled up the fit. Look at this fucking loser.

• 50:24Speaker 03

  Insane.

• 50:26Speaker 02

  And these are the guys that they're like, I should wanna be like him. They're like, you're fat. I'm like, yeah, I would take it over this any day. Have you ever seen me look that trash? Actually, I've looked worse than that. But I've never looked bad in that way.

• 50:37Speaker 03

  No, but it's, it's giving Lindsay Lohan an O6. Like, it's not.

• 50:42Speaker 02

  It's giving Jamie Lee Curtis as Lindsay Lohan in Freaky Friday. Bitch, you are so busted. Don't you have like a trillion dollars from alleged sex trafficking?

• 50:51Speaker 03

  Insane, all alleged.

• 50:53Speaker 02

  Ugh, that tight ass shirt, his nasty little sunglasses.

• 50:56Speaker 03

  No, man, I find him to be so.

• 50:57Speaker 02

  He's just so skis, dude. The fact that young men actually look up to guys like this.

• 51:03Speaker 03

  I think some of it is ironic, though. Like, I had a roommate who would always call him daddy.

• 51:07Speaker 02

  Pardon?

• 51:07Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 51:09Speaker 02

  See,

• 51:11Speaker 02

  sometimes the gay shit gets so.

• 51:14Speaker 03

  Yeah, there's the, the, the lines get blurred.

• 51:16Speaker 02

  The ironic gay shit gets so confusing so fast. It's really weird.

• 51:20Speaker 03

  Cause I'm telling you, it starts as i- ironic and then.

• 51:24Speaker 02

  You don't have to tell me.

• 51:25Speaker 03

  You just start to a gay shit.

• 51:26Speaker 02

  I went on that journey.

• 51:29Speaker 03

  Wouldn't it be crazy if we sucked into those dicks?

• 51:31Speaker 02

  Yeah, you think I wasn't doing ironic gay stuff in the 10th grade?

• 51:35Speaker 02

  Going like, damn, it's crazy. We're all naked at the sleepover right now. Dude, if we jerked off, that'd be hilarious.

• 51:44Speaker 02

  Yeah, it was a gateway, it was gay irony was a gateway drug to getting laid. And it was awesome.

• 51:49Speaker 03

  That is so funny.

• 51:50Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's, duh, gay irony is like the fucking, yeah, it's the, it's the precursor.

• 51:55Speaker 03

  It really is. And so now that's like a part of the culture also, I don't know. I think people are slowly like getting like tired of it also. Cause it's like, it's not right. And it's, it's, uh, it's othering a lot of people. But then what's, it's confusing me is like, I have like some gay friends that are also doing it, but I'm like, you can do that.

• 52:11Speaker 02

  Gay friends that are doing what?

• 52:12Speaker 03

  Gay friends that are like using, gay friends that are using like the irony of like gay jokes.

• 52:19Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 52:20Speaker 03

  But I'm like, are you like changing? Cause like I'm straight, but like I, I don't know. It's confusing. But I'm like, but maybe that's just the culture right now. Everyone's making the jokes.

• 52:28Speaker 02

  Gay people are the most homophobic people I know.

• 52:30Speaker 03

  Man.

• 52:30Speaker 02

  That's reality. And we are allowed to.

• 52:32Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 52:33Speaker 02

  But it is interesting. You have to wonder if it's for the best.

• 52:37Speaker 03

  Cause then I feel like, am I like too much of an ally? Then I'm like, don't talk about yourself like that. Like, I don't want, yes.

• 52:42Speaker 02

  You're too much of an ally in a beautiful way.

• 52:44Speaker 03

  And so I am like, sometimes like, but I need to like sit back and I'm just gonna listen. And they're just talking so bad about themselves.

• 52:49Speaker 02

  I'm never talking bad about me. I do think with the queer community, we need to be, we need to get back in touch with, well, I don't, I, I feel like the Tinder queer thing kind of took over for a minute.

• 52:58Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 52:58Speaker 02

  I don't think it's the time for that. I think it's the time to have a bit of an edge. I think it's the time to take a joke.

• 53:03Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 53:03Speaker 02

  I think it's the time to be like, I think we need to toughen up a little bit. Everything got a little too soft for me.

• 53:07Speaker 03

  Yeah, I can see that too.

• 53:09Speaker 02

  I don't like, everyone's, everyone's too soft about the, specifically about, I like softness in general, but specifically like the inability to take jokes about ourselves. I'm just like, ah, I don't know. I think it's kind of more fun to do that.

• 53:20Speaker 03

  Yeah, for sure.

• 53:21Speaker 02

  Let's just be into it.

• 53:21Speaker 03

  And it opens up like the landscape to like kind of, I don't know. It opens up the landscape, in my opinion, to like equality almost all the way also. I don't know.

• 53:28Speaker 02

  Well, that's the thing. If you're not joking about people, if there's a group of people you won't joke about, my feeling is that you don't respect them.

• 53:33Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 53:33Speaker 02

  That you think that they're like, you think that they're too like dainty or sensitive or stupid to be in on your joke.

• 53:40Speaker 03

  For sure.

• 53:41Speaker 02

  That's, I will joke about anybody. I, I don't think that that's, I don't ever want someone to feel like they can't joke about me.

• 53:46Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 53:47Speaker 02

  I wanna, a joke about me, there are great jokes about me that I love.

• 53:50Speaker 03

  For sure.

• 53:50Speaker 02

  Sometimes I see a mean joke about me that is genuinely rooted in, uh, mean spiritedness.

• 53:54Speaker 03

  A thousand and twenty percent.

• 53:55Speaker 02

  Good joke.

• 53:56Speaker 03

  How do you handle, that's really funny. How do you handle that, though? Do you feel like I am happy with like, uh, this, the idea of like getting like a lot of views on clips? Or like the idea of getting like a lot of followers. I'm happy that I'm getting that now at the age that I'm at.

• 54:10Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 54:10Speaker 03

  Cause I feel like I'm able to, like, I don't take anything seriously that I see for the most part on anything.

• 54:14Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 54:15Speaker 03

  And so it doesn't ever really bother me, but I think that if I was probably about 10 years younger, I think that I would be like damn near almost suicidal.

• 54:22Speaker 02

  Of course.

• 54:23Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 54:23Speaker 02

  I'm so glad I didn't get success when I wanted it.

• 54:25Speaker 03

  A thousand percent.

• 54:26Speaker 02

  I'm glad I got it when I had already kind of made peace with the idea that it might not happen. And it didn't take a, I, I, I'm not somebody who's like, I was embattled for years.

• 54:33Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 54:33Speaker 02

  I had a very lucky journey. I'm on a very lucky journey. I love my life. I feel so grateful. But yeah, I'm glad I didn't get success when I first wanted it.

• 54:40Speaker 03

  The first like viral moment I believe I saw of yours was the astrology video.

• 54:44Speaker 02

  Astrology video.

• 54:45Speaker 03

  You would be like, what time, like, like, uh, ask your parents, ask you, that was the first viral moment that I remember seeing. I know, but that was the first one that I was like, that was like, this is one of the, I sure, I probably sent it to like 10 people. I was like, this is one of the funniest things in the world.

• 54:58Speaker 02

  Damn dude, that's so nice. That was Twitter. That was like.

• 55:00Speaker 03

  Yeah, I remember that.

• 55:01Speaker 02

  That'd been like 2019 or something.

• 55:03Speaker 03

  Yeah. And I'm like, this is really funny. And I'm so happy to see that the way that everything has grown. But you're right, though. I just feel like so much more grounded in like knowing who I am, that like nothing could really kind of like, I don't know. It doesn't hurt my feelings, I guess.

• 55:15Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 55:15Speaker 03

  Any mean comment?

• 55:16Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's really interesting.

• 55:18Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 55:18Speaker 02

  What, why are, why are you doing all this? What do, what do you want? What's the big goal? What's the big idea?

• 55:24Speaker 03

  I think I just wanna make good art.

• 55:26Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 55:26Speaker 03

  I think it's really that simple. Like, I, I think like the why that I think that I learned in like college, I think it's really just I wanna make people laugh.

• 55:34Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 55:34Speaker 03

  There's really anything else but that.

• 55:36Speaker 02

  If I get, if, if, if someone walked in here right now and was like, Aaron, here's five million dollars, you can make one thing.

• 55:40Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 55:41Speaker 02

  What is the thing you would make immediately?

• 55:43Speaker 03

  I wanna do entertainment on a high level.

• 55:44Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 55:45Speaker 03

  But I wanna make people laugh on a high level.

• 55:46Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 55:46Speaker 03

  So like whatever that encompasses. Like right now, it's, it's standup and also it's definitely like YouTube. And so being able to continue to do that really is just like the mission. There's no like, there's no like thing, you know what I mean?

• 55:58Speaker 02

  Yeah, you're not like, here's a script. You're like, it's more like, I just wanna continue.

• 56:01Speaker 03

  I just wanna continue doing this and then eventually be able to fund other people to be able to do the same thing. I could definitely see myself like when I'm older, having like a management company of sorts. Or like just kind of like, and maybe that's like a production company, but not even like that. Like just to be able to help in being able to build other artists up that might not have the resources. But I think like, it's just as simple as I like making people laugh. It's fun. I love writing. I just like that.

• 56:26Speaker 02

  Who are your heroes? Who are the people you grew up to when you were starting?

• 56:29Speaker 03

  Uh, when I was starting, I think every young black male will say Dave Chappelle. So I think like no matter what, that's like square one, like just how, uh, that came into my life, I was like in freaking Branson.

• 56:42Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 56:42Speaker 03

  And. Was in Branson.

• 56:45Speaker 02

  Not the Vegas of the Midwest.

• 56:46Speaker 03

  Yeah. And we're at like a timeshare. And it's like, you know, and it was like, one of those things where you're like, my mom has to go to like a meeting just to make sure that she can, uh, have this entire like nice ass condo for like a week. And that was fun. But like my cousin like put in like a Dave Chappelle DVD. And like watching the Chappelle Show, I think like made me be like, this is what I wanna do. Like I wanna do this. And then I actually literally, I would have been in middle's, no, I, I would have been in elementary school when that happened. And then I got into his standup in the seventh grade and I watched Killing Him Softly. And at that point was when I was like, I'm gonna do this. And I actually started like two years later.

• 57:21Speaker 02

  You did your first open mic in New York, 16, right?

• 57:23Speaker 03

  15, yeah. At Stanford and Sons. Did you ever go to Stanford and Sons? Do you have any relation to Stanford and Sons?

• 57:28Speaker 02

  I believe I went one time.

• 57:29Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 57:29Speaker 02

  I did my, I did my first open mic in Kansas City when I was 18.

• 57:34Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 57:34Speaker 02

  At, uh, Art Bar.

• 57:36Speaker 03

  Yeah. I miss Art Bar, man.

• 57:39Speaker 02

  Dude.

• 57:39Speaker 03

  That was an era and a half, dude.

• 57:42Speaker 02

  I bombed in a way that like, isn't even understandable. I bombed in a way that like that, those walls have actually not seen before since. I bombed in a way that I didn't do standup again for like two more years.

• 57:52Speaker 03

  Are you serious?

• 57:52Speaker 02

  Oh, I was like, you, this is not for you, buddy.

• 57:54Speaker 03

  Oh, that's crazy.

• 57:56Speaker 02

  And I still don't think, I mean, I love standup and I love the, the, the craft of it and the art of it. And I love a lot of jokes that I've written.

• 58:04Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 58:05Speaker 02

  But I still don't think standup is my most natural thing. I, I love.

• 58:07Speaker 03

  Your special was really good, though.

• 58:08Speaker 02

  Thanks, dude. I appreciate it. I love doing it. But I still am like, I have to work harder at standup than I have to work at other things.

• 58:14Speaker 03

  Mm-hmm.

• 58:14Speaker 02

  It's not the most natural thing to me. There are people that it's just like, I feel like.

• 58:17Speaker 03

  They're like, right away, they're just like, yeah.

• 58:19Speaker 02

  It's immediate.

• 58:20Speaker 03

  Yeah, for sure.

• 58:20Speaker 02

  And I don't think that's necessarily my vibe.

• 58:23Speaker 03

  But I think that's what's cool about right now. It's like the multi hyphenate artist. I think it's like a cool concept. I love the idea of being able to like, to be able to like make the art bigger. Like right now, like my obsession is soundtracks.

• 58:35Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 58:35Speaker 03

  So like, yes, I've been having a fun time with the project that I just released. That was like, it was like 10 episodes, like a YouTube series. And then I had like a soundtrack on top of that. And it kind of all connected. But I'm like, that's my shit. Now, we didn't get that many views, but it was, but I'm like that, the fact that I'm even in the position to be able to like even make those things, like that is like all I wanna, all I wanna do.

• 58:58Speaker 02

  You made the music?

• 58:58Speaker 03

  Made the music, yeah. I mean, with like other actual musicians, but that's what I mean. Like writing, I can write a great song, I think. I can write a, I, I think a good script. Uh, and I can write standup. But I like, writing is really at its core of like what I really, really enjoy doing. And then I think that everything else kind of like adds to that, right? It's like the acting adds to that. The music adds to that. But it all is able for me to be able to use that specific medium, um, in different ways.

• 59:26Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 59:26Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 59:27Speaker 02

  Do you feel like a positive person?

• 59:29Speaker 03

  I think for the most part, I think that sometimes I feel really negative. And then even when I'm being negative, everyone's like, you're being too nice. And I'm like, I feel like shit. What are you talking about?

• 59:40Speaker 02

  I was gonna say, I feel like you're an extremely positive person. You radiate good energy.

• 59:43Speaker 03

  Yeah, for sure. I think that like, yeah, I think some of that is like my Midwestern roots. Like definitely like I come from the product of like, like flower children like-esque. Like everyone's like, go out to the world, like be a good person. And so I think I try to carry that with me. On the flip side of that too, like I can be a dick at the same time, you know what I mean? But only when it's warranted.

• 1:00:00Speaker 02

  What's your mom like? You said your mom was like spiritual, but in the way that like.

• 1:00:04Speaker 03

  Same, same, not the same vibes as your mom, but like my mom would definitely classify herself as a Christian. But like, it was never like.

• 1:00:12Speaker 03

  Although I will say, the church home that I have in Kansas City was dope.

• 1:00:17Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:00:17Speaker 03

  And anyone that was there at that same exact time will reiterate that same phrasing. It was actually Emmanuel Cleaver's church.

• 1:00:24Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:00:24Speaker 03

  It was.

• 1:00:25Speaker 02

  Legend.

• 1:00:25Speaker 03

  Yeah, legend. Like, it was, he is so dope. He has done so many great things for the city. Him and his family are incredible. Evans at UCB.

• 1:00:32Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:00:33Speaker 03

  Um, just, I really cherish like those moments. But like, that environment and that vibe, um, different from other, uh, denominations of Christianity. I just feel like nothing was ever like forced. And at its core, it was really always about just being a good person. And so I think that I really, uh, as I've gotten older, I'd never feel like there were like strict rules that I've had to adhere to. It's always been like, find yourself within like what you've also gotten from that lesson. And so I think that I'm really happy that I had that experience.

• 1:01:05Speaker 02

  Yeah. What made it so different? Like, as you've gone out into the world after that and gone to other churches or seen other churches, like, what do you think was the thing that made your church in Kansas City like so different?

• 1:01:18Speaker 03

  I think it's just the vibe of like just being a good person.

• 1:01:20Speaker 02

  The ease of it and the.

• 1:01:21Speaker 03

  The ease of it. Like, I never felt like anything was ever like forced upon me. I never felt like there was like any belief that was like, you have to get this, like, you have to understand this and you have to be like this. It was very much like we showed up and it's like, hey, like, you know, this is a, a nice little tidbit for you to be able to take away as you go through your week. And that's really nice. Now, I will say, it was hard transitioning for me, and I'm curious if you had the same thing. Cause like especially coming from like, what I would consider like an insular environment, Chicago was very turbulent for me.

• 1:01:50Speaker 02

  Hmm.

• 1:01:50Speaker 03

  And I don't ever feel like I was able to find my footing, just simply because it was such a major culture shock. Does that make sense? And like, um, kind of actually, it's so crazy, cause me and my girlfriend were watching your special. We have a lot in common. And although it wasn't on like the level that I feel like you experienced, my mom is a bit of a hoarding problem also. So growing up within all of that, I found it, I didn't, wasn't processing enough. So, Chicago for me, in those five years, was all about just like processing like what I'd been through and what had actually just happened. And meeting other people that have a completely different perspective than what I have. And that was tough, I think, for those like few years that I was there.

• 1:02:31Speaker 03

  But did, did you experience anything like that? Or like, was it a pretty ease, like an easy transition?

• 1:02:37Speaker 02

  My biggest, uh, thing like that was, I was, I worked in political organizing, like when Chance and I were in college. I was like doing political organizing and doing like volunteer training and working for Senator, the Senator in Missouri, Claire McCaskill at the time, you remember? Shout out Claire. Um, most centrist Democrat who's ever lived. Um, and I worked, yeah, I worked for a lot of campaigns and did stuff like that. And I found the organizers that I met, the politicians were all centrists, and I had disagreements with them uh, about a lot of things, but I felt like you, you, in a place like Missouri, you take what you can get.

• 1:03:13Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:03:14Speaker 02

  And it's better than the Republicans.

• 1:03:15Speaker 03

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:03:15Speaker 02

  Um, cause when the centrist Democrats fell in line, they, I actually feel now that we have an opportunity to replace them with more radically left people, cause I think that so much has changed in the last twenty years. But when they fall in line, they fall in line on the side of, uh, abortion being legal and weed being legal and gay people being able to get married. And when the Republicans, even if they are centrists, fall in line, they fall in line on the side of, um, all those things not being true.

• 1:03:39Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:03:39Speaker 02

  Keeping in mind that both of them ultimately just answered corporations the whole time. Um, but I was cool with that. But I, the, the activists that I knew and the organizers that I knew were some of the most radical, um, and about it, like people I've ever met to this day. And when I moved to Chicago and started talking to like organizers and political like people, I was shocked at the laziness. And I was shocked at the entitlement. And I couldn't believe the, I just couldn't believe the, what I was hearing. I was like, oh, we have like a super majority. We could do anything.

• 1:04:10Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:04:10Speaker 02

  We live in Chicago, Illinois.

• 1:04:12Speaker 03

  Exactly.

• 1:04:12Speaker 02

  We could do anything. And you're, and the lack of imagination, I couldn't believe. Like, there are people, there are organizers in Southern Missouri that were like straight up like radical Marxist, like leftists.

• 1:04:22Speaker 03

  That's so wild.

• 1:04:23Speaker 02

  Left of me, and they believed that we could get shit done there.

• 1:04:27Speaker 03

  That's crazy.

• 1:04:27Speaker 02

  But then I moved to Chicago and there was no political imagination about a better world. There was no political imagination about desegregation of the city or

• 1:04:34Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:04:34Speaker 02

  There was no political imagination about, uh, like redistributing wealth or like making life better for working people really at all.

• 1:04:41Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:04:42Speaker 02

  In the circles that I was talking in. And I was not in, it's not like I moved there to be an activist. I moved there to be a comedian. There's plenty of places I could have looked that I didn't look. It's not to say anything about Chicago's.

• 1:04:51Speaker 03

  But it, but that would be shocking though also, just given the political history of Chicago.

• 1:04:55Speaker 02

  Chicago ha, but which is why I'm saying this, Chicago people do not fucking come for me. I don't want to hear it.

• 1:05:00Speaker 03

  No, yeah, great.

• 1:05:00Speaker 02

  There are brilliant, amazing, very about it, serious activists in Chicago.

• 1:05:04Speaker 03

  Yeah, they definitely are.

• 1:05:05Speaker 02

  And I learned so much. I didn't know anything about prison abolition before I moved to Chicago. I learned everything about it in Chicago.

• 1:05:11Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:05:11Speaker 02

  There are plenty of very serious activists that are way smarter than me, way more about it than I am. I, I'm saying in my circles, which were similar to my circles in Missouri, which were like young artists.

• 1:05:20Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:05:21Speaker 02

  I was surprised by the lack of imagination and the laziness.

• 1:05:23Speaker 03

  That's wild.

• 1:05:24Speaker 02

  Now, had I been hanging out more in like around U-Chicago and on the South Side, like in Hyde Park and things like that, I'm sure I would have met more serious activists.

• 1:05:32Speaker 03

  For sure.

• 1:05:33Speaker 02

  But all that is to say, in my circles, it was a little lackadaisical, and that was the big shock for me.

• 1:05:38Speaker 03

  That's really interesting.

• 1:05:39Speaker 02

  I can't believe this.

• 1:05:39Speaker 03

  Yeah, that's really interesting. That's, yeah, that's really crazy. And I, and I think you're right. For me, it was exploring outside of the comedy scene and then starting to meet more people that were really about it. Um, yeah, that's really interesting. That's really crazy. Where'd you go to college?

• 1:05:55Speaker 02

  I went to Missouri State.

• 1:05:56Speaker 03

  You went to Missouri State?

• 1:05:57Speaker 02

  Chance and I went to Missouri State.

• 1:05:58Speaker 03

  That's so sick.

• 1:05:58Speaker 02

  Met him there, yeah.

• 1:06:00Speaker 03

  That's so cool, man.

• 1:06:01Speaker 02

  It's, uh, I would call it a, a double edged sword, a blessing and a curse, meeting Chance.

• 1:06:06Speaker 03

  Why'd you say that?

• 1:06:07Speaker 02

  There, there, you know, there are beautiful things about it, but there are horrible things as well.

• 1:06:10Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:06:11Speaker 02

  There were horrible things as well. Like when we lived together in Chicago and he sleptwalk and would wield a knife.

• 1:06:16Speaker 03

  Are you serious?

• 1:06:16Speaker 02

  Well, that was one.

• 1:06:20Speaker 02

  I did. Scary bitch.

• 1:06:21Speaker 03

  Were you in my house last week?

• 1:06:23Speaker 02

  I did remind me of Chance when you said that.

• 1:06:25Speaker 03

  That's really wild.

• 1:06:25Speaker 02

  I found him, I found him once.

• 1:06:27Speaker 04

  We had some unkind neighbors and I was gonna let them know how I felt about it.

• 1:06:30Speaker 02

  And that's all they'll say. In his sleep, crazy.

• 1:06:33Speaker 03

  Wait, do you still sleepwalk?

• 1:06:35Speaker 04

  Not that, not to my knowledge. I live alone now, so I might.

• 1:06:37Speaker 03

  So you might. That's a new thing for me. I've like never, now like being in a relationship for two years, I'm learning, I recently I popped up from my sleep, my eyes wide open, and this has been happening a lot. It's just like an example. I said, do you see the portal?

• 1:06:53Speaker 04

  No.

• 1:06:55Speaker 02

  I'll tell you what you wouldn't be doing if you were dating me. Absolutely not. Absolutely not.

• 1:07:01Speaker 03

  Yeah, I don't know how.

• 1:07:02Speaker 02

  There will be no portal.

• 1:07:04Speaker 03

  Another night, another night, I was like, look at all these kids.

• 1:07:07Speaker 02

  No!

• 1:07:08Speaker 03

  Yeah, I'm really putting this girl through hell. And I feel really bad. You wrote her script!

• 1:07:12Speaker 02

  No.

• 1:07:12Speaker 03

  Sophie Garage, shout out to Sophie.

• 1:07:13Speaker 02

  She what?

• 1:07:14Speaker 03

  Her and Claude wrote the script.

• 1:07:15Speaker 02

  Oh, I love that script.

• 1:07:16Speaker 03

  And they loved the notes that you gave them. They were so grateful you took the time to do that.

• 1:07:20Speaker 02

  I felt, you know, I feel sometimes when I give, when someone asks me to give notes, I always say, are you sure?

• 1:07:25Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:07:25Speaker 02

  Cause I'm, uh, I don't hold back. I'm like, if I'm giving you notes, I'm gonna give you the real notes. And that script is great. And I, but I had a lot of notes, cause I had a lot of thoughts about it.

• 1:07:32Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:07:33Speaker 02

  My notes are almost like more involved when I actually believe in something. If I read something that's really bad, I just go like, yeah, here's the things I could give you to make this better.

• 1:07:41Speaker 03

  For sure.

• 1:07:42Speaker 02

  But when something actually has so much potential, I'm like, this is what I think. And I'm just, I'm one guy.

• 1:07:45Speaker 03

  It was just really nice if you'd like take the time even.

• 1:07:47Speaker 02

  But that script is great.

• 1:07:48Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:07:48Speaker 02

  That's so cool. I didn't put two and two together.

• 1:07:50Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:07:50Speaker 02

  Uh, she should leave you. That's some scary shit.

• 1:07:53Speaker 03

  Floating puppets one time I saw.

• 1:07:55Speaker 02

  No, you did not.

• 1:07:56Speaker 03

  Yeah, cause that week I was making a children's puppet show, like an adult children's puppet show, and then all I was thinking about was puppets. So I guess I was like sleep talking, but I get up. Sometimes I stand up. But then I only talk to her. I don't talk to anyone. It's really, it's a strange thing. I gotta figure it out.

• 1:08:13Speaker 02

  You certainly do. I promise you, if anyone's ever sleeping in my bed and wakes up, eyes wide open and says, do you see the portal? It'll be the last time they go to sleep in my bed. That's crazy. There's no portals. And frankly, there's no kids.

• 1:08:28Speaker 02

  That's nuts.

• 1:08:29Speaker 03

  It's really wild.

• 1:08:30Speaker 02

  That is crazy. I'm worried about you. That's crazy.

• 1:08:32Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's fine though.

• 1:08:33Speaker 02

  I had a friend, oh, I actually shouldn't say that. Um, Aaron, uh, tell me what's so true to you.

• 1:08:40Speaker 03

  Oh my gosh. I thought for a long time about this.

• 1:08:45Speaker 02

  Oh, you're one of the first guests to ever do that.

• 1:08:47Speaker 03

  Oh my gosh, I really did. Cause I have so many opinions that I feel very strongly about. Um, I wanna say before I say this, I have said this opinion in front of rooms that some people would only wish to be in.

• 1:09:00Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:09:00Speaker 03

  And all of those people, um, probably think less of me now after saying this.

• 1:09:06Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:09:07Speaker 03

  But I'm standing ten toes on this.

• 1:09:08Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:09:09Speaker 03

  The movie Zoe 102.

• 1:09:12Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:09:12Speaker 03

  That was released in July of 2023. I believe had some of the best cinematography of the year. Now, you might be wondering, why am I pointing this out? Well, if you remember, Caleb, that was the same summer of Barbenheimer. And I'm willing for anyone to challenge my thought and opinion. One of the most, they took so many risks. They took so many chances, some would say chance. And they made a very, very beautiful piece, and I just believe that it never got the love that it deserved. It was shot so well. The DP's name is Matthew Rudson.

• 1:09:55Speaker 03

  And that man is a young prodigy. And I hope that he is still working in this town, because he can, honestly, he can move water.

• 1:10:05Speaker 02

  So I didn't see the film.

• 1:10:08Speaker 02

  And so I don't have, I don't have a leg to stand on here. I'm gonna watch it.

• 1:10:12Speaker 03

  You should. It's beautiful.

• 1:10:13Speaker 02

  I'm gonna at least watch enough of it to get a sense of the cinematography.

• 1:10:16Speaker 03

  Bro, they did like a Birdman thing where they didn't cut for like three minutes.

• 1:10:19Speaker 02

  In Zoe 102?

• 1:10:20Speaker 03

  Yes, talk, I'm telling you, there was no reason for them to go this hard. And it just looks just utterly beautiful.

• 1:10:29Speaker 02

  Did you watch Perfect Days?

• 1:10:30Speaker 03

  No.

• 1:10:31Speaker 02

  Came out the same year. One of my favorite movies of all time.

• 1:10:34Speaker 03

  I can't speak on Perfect Days. I can't speak.

• 1:10:37Speaker 02

  Alright, here's the assignment.

• 1:10:37Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 1:10:38Speaker 02

  You're gonna watch Perfect Days by Vim Vendas.

• 1:10:40Speaker 03

  Absolutely.

• 1:10:41Speaker 02

  And I'm going to watch Zoe 102.

• 1:10:43Speaker 03

  Done.

• 1:10:43Speaker 02

  And we're gonna compare.

• 1:10:44Speaker 03

  Okay, I'm so down.

• 1:10:45Speaker 02

  We're gonna compare notes.

• 1:10:46Speaker 03

  I'm so down.

• 1:10:47Speaker 02

  We're gonna do like that thing that long distance couples do where we press play at the same time.

• 1:10:50Speaker 03

  One, two, three.

• 1:10:51Speaker 02

  Instead of the same movie, it's these two.

• 1:10:53Speaker 03

  Just talk about it. I'm so down.

• 1:10:54Speaker 02

  Yeah, alright, let's do it. I love it.

• 1:10:55Speaker 03

  That's right.

• 1:10:56Speaker 02

  That's crazy. I've not seen it. I wish I had.

• 1:10:58Speaker 03

  Man.

• 1:10:58Speaker 02

  That's fucking crazy.

• 1:10:59Speaker 03

  You're gonna love it and I'm gonna watch Perfect Days.

• 1:11:00Speaker 02

  Huge swing that you've taken on the podcast.

• 1:11:02Speaker 03

  It's the truth and I was, I, I'm, I'm, I'm standing ten toes on that.

• 1:11:05Speaker 02

  Now, just so I'm clear, this is a Zoe 101.

• 1:11:07Speaker 03

  This was a reboot.

• 1:11:08Speaker 02

  Reboot.

• 1:11:08Speaker 03

  But it was just a movie. They didn't do a TV show. It's like an hour and a half. Um.

• 1:11:13Speaker 02

  Historious.

• 1:11:14Speaker 03

  But it's, but it's, it's absolutely just, it's beautiful.

• 1:11:18Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:11:18Speaker 03

  It's beautiful.

• 1:11:19Speaker 02

  Alright, I'm gonna look into it.

• 1:11:20Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 1:11:20Speaker 02

  I'm gonna look into it.

• 1:11:21Speaker 03

  And I'm gonna watch Perfect Days.

• 1:11:21Speaker 02

  Zoe 102.

• 1:11:22Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 1:11:23Speaker 02

  That's so interesting of you to say.

• 1:11:25Speaker 03

  I know.

• 1:11:26Speaker 02

  I'm scared.

• 1:11:27Speaker 03

  Ah, you shouldn't be.

• 1:11:27Speaker 02

  The cinematography's ass.

• 1:11:28Speaker 03

  You shouldn't be, you're prepared, just be prepared.

• 1:11:31Speaker 02

  I'm prepared.

• 1:11:32Speaker 03

  The way they used light. Like, I'm telling you. Really insane. It really is insane and no one talked about it.

• 1:11:40Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:11:41Speaker 03

  But it makes sense, though. I've done research on the DP and I, by the way, do not know this man.

• 1:11:44Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:11:45Speaker 03

  Um, I have no reason to glaze him as much as I am, but the truth is, is like, he films a lot of commercials. Well, cause I went on his IG, obviously, after I watched the film. And I think that you can see it in the film where like, there's some commercials, like a Kay Jewelers or like, some of that like, like is trying to show you like light or like a beautiful product. It shows throughout the entire piece.

• 1:12:08Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:12:08Speaker 03

  So it's just shot in a really pretty way.

• 1:12:10Speaker 02

  Some of our best directors and DPs come from commercial land.

• 1:12:12Speaker 03

  Exactly.

• 1:12:13Speaker 02

  A, a lot of great directors start out doing commercials.

• 1:12:16Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:12:16Speaker 02

  I, and they, their stuff is fantastic. Like, they're just used to, and they're also used to like, doing super tight stuff with small budgets in a quick turnaround.

• 1:12:25Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 1:12:25Speaker 02

  Like, it's just kind of like, yeah, it, it's, uh, it's hard work.

• 1:12:28Speaker 03

  And it makes sense.

• 1:12:29Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:12:29Speaker 03

  So I'm happy that they gave them the opportunity to do that.

• 1:12:31Speaker 02

  Hell yeah.

• 1:12:32Speaker 03

  And I hope to meet you, Matthew, one day.

• 1:12:33Speaker 02

  I shout out, Matthew, this will get to him. If I've learned anything about this stupid podcast, no matter what gets said on here, I have had people, I've told stories from my childhood.

• 1:12:44Speaker 03

  That's crazy.

• 1:12:45Speaker 02

  About someone's third cousin and I'll get a fucking text. It's like, hey, um.

• 1:12:49Speaker 03

  That's really wild.

• 1:12:51Speaker 02

  Casey's thing, a girl that I work with brought up that I was mentioned on your podcast?

• 1:12:55Speaker 03

  So what the fuck is up?

• 1:12:56Speaker 02

  I'm like, what the fuck? It didn't used to be like this, but I promise you, this DP will hear word of this.

• 1:13:01Speaker 03

  That's so sick.

• 1:13:02Speaker 02

  And I hope you get a reach out from it.

• 1:13:03Speaker 03

  I would absolutely love that.

• 1:13:04Speaker 02

  Zoe 102, and I hope you get a reach out from the screenwriter as well because a little bit of a stray was caught.

• 1:13:09Speaker 03

  But no, I love Zoe 101. It was great. It was great.

• 1:13:12Speaker 02

  What about 102?

• 1:13:13Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:13:13Speaker 02

  Nice, okay.

• 1:13:16Speaker 02

  Uh, Aaron, you wanna play a game?

• 1:13:17Speaker 03

  Let's do it.

• 1:13:17Speaker 02

  Alright, cool. I'm gonna read you 15 statements. You're gonna tell me as quickly as you can if what I just said was true or false.

• 1:13:21Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 1:13:22Speaker 02

  If you get 10 or more correct, I'm gonna give you 50 US dollars.

• 1:13:24Speaker 03

  Ugh.

• 1:13:25Speaker 02

  Are you ready?

• 1:13:26Speaker 03

  Let's do it.

• 1:13:26Speaker 02

  Hugh Jackman is older than John Stamos.

• 1:13:28Speaker 03

  Mmm. I'm going to say false.

• 1:13:32Speaker 02

  It is false. A bushel is 64 pints.

• 1:13:34Speaker 03

  La, la, la, la, la. I'm gonna say true.

• 1:13:38Speaker 02

  It is true. Creed, the band, has won exactly one Grammy.

• 1:13:43Speaker 03

  Yeah, I'm gonna say true.

• 1:13:44Speaker 02

  That is true. The found, the founder of White Castle Burgers was born in 1880.

• 1:13:49Speaker 03

  True.

• 1:13:50Speaker 02

  That is true.

• 1:13:51Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:13:51Speaker 02

  Bishop Maje's high school girls' basketball team has won 20, has won state 26 times.

• 1:13:56Speaker 03

  True.

• 1:13:56Speaker 02

  False.

• 1:13:57Speaker 03

  What? They have it?

• 1:13:58Speaker 02

  24.

• 1:13:59Speaker 03

  Oh. They're really good.

• 1:14:02Speaker 02

  The film Oppenheimer made 1.1 billion dollars.

• 1:14:05Speaker 03

  What are the chances? True.

• 1:14:06Speaker 02

  False.

• 1:14:07Speaker 03

  What?

• 1:14:07Speaker 02

  983 million.

• 1:14:08Speaker 03

  Oh, I started off strong.

• 1:14:09Speaker 02

  Wop. Uh, the Boston Red Sox mascot is Wally the Green Monster.

• 1:14:14Speaker 03

  I think he's red, so I'm gonna say false.

• 1:14:17Speaker 02

  It's true.

• 1:14:17Speaker 03

  Wow.

• 1:14:18Speaker 02

  The mathematical, the mathematical symbol for division is called a divisible.

• 1:14:24Speaker 03

  I'm gonna, I'm so, I'm so mad. I'm gonna say true.

• 1:14:27Speaker 02

  It's false.

• 1:14:27Speaker 03

  Dang it.

• 1:14:28Speaker 02

  It's an obelus.

• 1:14:29Speaker 03

  Ah.

• 1:14:30Speaker 02

  Obelus?

• 1:14:30Speaker 03

  Lock in.

• 1:14:31Speaker 02

  Lobsters can live to be 100 years old.

• 1:14:33Speaker 03

  True.

• 1:14:33Speaker 02

  That's true. The Kansas State motto is to the stars through difficulties.

• 1:14:38Speaker 03

  I'm gonna say false. I don't, true.

• 1:14:41Speaker 02

  It's true. It's true. It's like ad aspera, parasper or something like that?

• 1:14:45Speaker 03

  I'm a Missouri boy. I.

• 1:14:46Speaker 02

  Thank you. Shout out, first of all.

• 1:14:47Speaker 03

  Shout out for sure.

• 1:14:48Speaker 02

  GPS was originally developed for use in hospitals.

• 1:14:51Speaker 03

  True.

• 1:14:51Speaker 02

  False. The military. Lake Michigan is the largest Great Lake.

• 1:14:56Speaker 03

  False.

• 1:14:57Speaker 02

  False. It's Lake Superior.

• 1:14:58Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 1:14:58Speaker 02

  Shakira is four foot 11.

• 1:15:01Speaker 03

  I, I'm actually gonna say true.

• 1:15:04Speaker 02

  It is true.

• 1:15:04Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:15:05Speaker 02

  She's small.

• 1:15:05Speaker 03

  She's very small.

• 1:15:06Speaker 02

  A little tiny.

• 1:15:07Speaker 03

  Great performance.

• 1:15:08Speaker 02

  The Food Network began broadcasting in 1979.

• 1:15:11Speaker 03

  True.

• 1:15:11Speaker 02

  False. 1993.

• 1:15:13Speaker 03

  Dang it.

• 1:15:14Speaker 02

  Columbia College Chicago's mascot is the Cosmos.

• 1:15:16Speaker 03

  False.

• 1:15:17Speaker 02

  It's true.

• 1:15:18Speaker 03

  No, it's not.

• 1:15:19Speaker 02

  It's true. That's what it says on here. What do you think it is?

• 1:15:21Speaker 03

  No, we don't have a ma, I don't, I think it's like a, um, it's, uh, the, we're the Renegades.

• 1:15:28Speaker 02

  Chance does get these wrong sometimes.

• 1:15:29Speaker 03

  I think we're the Renegades.

• 1:15:31Speaker 04

  I have, I have news for you. It changed last year.

• 1:15:33Speaker 03

  Oh. Chance.

• 1:15:36Speaker 02

  Oh. You're a sick fuck.

• 1:15:38Speaker 03

  Okay, but he's right. Technically, you are correct.

• 1:15:41Speaker 02

  See what I'm saying? Look at the way he's acting right now.

• 1:15:42Speaker 03

  Oh, that's crazy.

• 1:15:44Speaker 02

  He acts like fucking Jigsaw from the movie series Saw. No, he's so scary. He's so scary. That's fucked up.

• 1:15:52Speaker 03

  That's crazy, man.

• 1:15:53Speaker 02

  Give him that and then tell me how many he got.

• 1:15:55Speaker 04

  Oh, nine.

• 1:15:56Speaker 02

  Nice. He got eight, he got eight if you don't count the Cosmos?

• 1:15:58Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:15:59Speaker 03

  So close.

• 1:16:00Speaker 02

  Dude, you were close.

• 1:16:00Speaker 03

  So close.

• 1:16:01Speaker 02

  You were really close.

• 1:16:02Speaker 03

  So close.

• 1:16:02Speaker 02

  You didn't trust your gut on a couple of those. I felt it.

• 1:16:04Speaker 03

  I just should've just gone with what I, you know what I mean? But I'm gonna study you next time I got you.

• 1:16:07Speaker 02

  Yeah, just come back better.

• 1:16:08Speaker 03

  Yeah, I will. Come back stronger.

• 1:16:09Speaker 02

  Next time, better, faster, stronger, harder, et cetera.

• 1:16:12Speaker 03

  That's all I can do.

• 1:16:12Speaker 02

  Uh, Aaron, this was such a delight.

• 1:16:14Speaker 03

  This was so much fun.

• 1:16:15Speaker 02

  Do you wanna tell people how they can support you, where they can find you?

• 1:16:17Speaker 03

  Uh, when does this come out?

• 1:16:19Speaker 02

  We don't know when this comes out. It's such a, it's such a beautiful and special process that unfolds.

• 1:16:22Speaker 03

  I'm probably on the Forehead XXL Tour at the time this comes out. So you could go to theforeheadtour.com for those tickets. Other than that, uh, Instagram, at Branch, at Aaron Branch World, and then TikTok at Branch Boy Comedy.

• 1:16:35Speaker 02

  Hell yeah.

• 1:16:36Speaker 03

  Yeah, man.

• 1:16:36Speaker 02

  Mark on dude, thanks for doing it.

• 1:16:37Speaker 03

  Caleb, you're the best. Thank you so much for having me.

• 1:16:39Speaker 02

  You're the best.

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