Summary
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The host Caleb Hearon sits down with Trixie Mattel for a wide-ranging conversation covering health trackers, therapy breakthroughs, dating standards, and the absurdities of aging and fame. Trixie and the host discuss the psychological trap of being obsessed with career outcomes rather than the creative process, share humorous stories about medical checkups like full-body MRIs, and playfully debate topics ranging from short men to old politicians. Throughout the episode, the two comedians maintain a rapid-fire comedic banter, poking fun at each other's outfits, celebrity culture, and the peculiar rituals of air travel.
- Focusing too much on the outcome of creative work can ruin the actual experience of making things. 13:00
- Anxiety is often a somatic reaction stored in the body from past experiences rather than just worries about the future. 24:55
- People boarding an airplane should wait in their designated seating groups instead of crowding the gate. 1:14:34
Chapters
- 0:00Podcast Intro and Ad Read
The episode opens with a playful holiday gift‑exchange joke and a brief ad read for Peloton’s new Tread Flex.
- 0:56Pluto TV Promotion and Light‑Hearted Banter
Hosts discuss the free streaming service Pluto TV, sharing favorite shows and making humorous remarks about San Diego and San Diego culture.
- 1:27Health Tech Talk: OraRing and Sleep Tracking
The conversation shifts to wearable health tech, focusing on the OraRing sleep tracker and its impact on the hosts’ sleep quality.
- 4:00Therapy and Mental Health Journey
The hosts dive into personal therapy experiences, anxiety management, and the benefits of regular counseling and medication.
- 15:37Fashion and Lifestyle Product Ads
Ad segments for Skechers, Quince, and other lifestyle brands are interspersed throughout the episode.
- 27:52Philosophical Musings on God and Death
A deep discussion about spirituality, beliefs about God, and the emotional response to death and loss.
- 38:13Dating Apps and Relationship Dynamics
The hosts talk about modern dating, the Hinge app, and their own dating experiences and preferences.
- 40:41Closing Reflections and Outro
The episode concludes with final thoughts on life, gratitude, and a brief outro.
- 41:48Squarespace Sponsorship Spot
A brief Squarespace ad highlights website building tools for creators.
- 42:51Monogamy and Flirting Debate
The hosts discuss monogamy, flirting, and relationship dynamics in a candid exchange.
- 44:08Show Environment and Crew Dynamics
They talk about creating a comfortable yet productive environment for their crew and guests.
- 45:03Baldness and Self-Image Talk
The conversation turns to baldness, hair loss, and how it affects self-esteem.
Highlights
- 1:46
The guest describes getting an Oura ring and sleeping for over ten hours out of sheer spite for the ring's low initial sleep score.
- 4:15
Abdominal Obstruction Jokestory
The guest and host joke about Katya nearly dying from an abdominal obstruction and what outfit they would wear to her hypothetical funeral.
- 9:01
Full Body MRI Scan Discoverystory
The host shares how a famous friend received a free full-body MRI scan that incidentally detected early-stage brain cancer, prompting him to get scanned as well.
- 12:28
Process Over Outcomeinsight
The guest explains how therapy helped reframe artistic ambition away from constant pressure and toward enjoying the actual process of creation.
- 1:11:47
Critics Choice Awards Disappointmentstory
The guest recounts a miserable experience attending the Critics Choice Awards in full drag, waiting in line only for the red carpet to shut down.
- 1:26:11
Trivia Game Failurestory
The guest attempts a 15-question true or false quiz administered by the host and manages to get only seven correct.
Quotes
“Anxiety is not about what could happen. It's about what has happened.”
Unnamed speaker · 24:55 “The making and the discovery is the fun part.”
Unnamed speaker · 15:05 “I think to believe that something better happens when we die is a complete slap in the face to the gift of being alive right now.”
Unnamed speaker · 28:00 “I don't believe in God. I'm not saying there's no God.”
Unnamed speaker · 27:48 “The government takes forty percent of that, so one hundred and twenty, or whatever that is?”
Unnamed speaker · 1:04:31 “I love the way I look. And I'm excited to get older.”
Unnamed speaker · 46:55 “I'm going to read you 15 statements, Trixie. You're going to tell me as quickly as you can if what I just said was true or false.”
Unnamed speaker · 1:24:18 “So I'm sitting like this because I have three wigs on.”
Unnamed speaker · 1:23:27 “Grizzly bears can run at speeds up to 35 miles per hour.”
Unnamed speaker · 1:26:09 “I have a Halloween EP coming out called Till Death Do Us Part.”
Unnamed speaker · 1:29:11
Sponsored segments
- Peloton 0:16–0:43
- Skechers 15:22–15:41
- Hinge 38:13–39:37
- Quince 39:45–40:43
- Rocket Money 40:43–41:48
- Squarespace 41:48–42:48
- KitchenAid 1:30:16–1:30:26
- Peloton 1:30:26–1:30:57
About this episode
Welcome! This week brings us the latest member of the 3 timers club, Trixie Mattel! Trixie and Caleb talk sleep scores, full body scans, what they watch on planes, and Trixie once again attempts to collect that coveted $50 from the True or False game. Join our Substack for ad free full episodes, early access to merch, our community chat, and more! https://calebsaysthings.substack.com/ Follow Trixie! @trixiemattel Follow the show! @sooootruepod Follow Caleb! @calebsaysthings Produced by Chance Nichols @chanceisloud Visit https://hin.ge/SoTruewithCalebHearon to download Hinge today! Visit https://Quince.com/sotrue for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Now available in Canada, too. Let Rocket Money help you reach your financial goals faster. Join at https://RocketMoney.com/SOTRUE Go to https://www.squarespace.com/SOTRUE to save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code SOTRUE. So True with Caleb Hearon is edited and engineered by Nicole Lyons. Our social media manager is Anna Weis. All episodes are filmed in The So Trudio at Legitimate Business World Headquarters in Brooklyn, New York. A Wave series. https://wavesportsandentertainment.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Transcript
20,617 words · 8 speakers
Topics
- Kansas City
- Out.com
- Pluto TV
- OraRing
- Google Pixel
- Wisconsin
- Australia
- San Diego
- Priceline
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