"Linda Cardellini"

Hug a stranger, it’s the incredible Linda Cardellini. We’re still in awe of showbiz: weight placement, soup as sauce, The Price is Right, and a stick of butter for 10-grand. “Exploring the borders of who Linda is to you,” on an all-new SmartLess.

Speaker names marked ? are inferred from speaking time and the show’s known hosts — they are not voice-verified.

• 0:00Jason Bateman?

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• 0:44Jason Bateman?

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• 0:49Jason Bateman?

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• 1:25Jason Bateman?

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• 2:05Jason Bateman?

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• 2:46Will Arnett?

  I'm trying to read your minds, both of you, right now.

• 2:49Jason Bateman?

  Okay, go. Right now, okay. I'm sending, I'm zapping you something right now.

• 2:53Will Arnett?

  Sean, I anticipated that.

• 2:56Jason Bateman?

  And me, I'm thinking of an animal. It's a safari animal, animal.

• 3:02Will Arnett?

  Hey, man. Listen, we've talked about drinking before the show, before. We've talked about it.

• 3:07Jason Bateman?

  It was a zebra.

• 3:08Will Arnett?

  This is an all new Smartless. Jesus, man, enough with the drinking.

• 3:29Jason Bateman?

  Oh, Will's enjoying a shake. Hey, Will, handsome place you're in. Is that the new spot in New York?

• 3:36Will Arnett?

  This is Atlanta.

• 3:37Jason Bateman?

  Oh, somebody went ahead and took care of himself during his work in Atlanta. And he's drinking a shake because he's got an on-camera job.

• 3:47Will Arnett?

  Well, this has been part of my thing for the last few months now. This particular thing I got going in here. Do you want ingredients?

• 3:54Jason Bateman?

  Cool it, but you look great.

• 3:56Will Arnett?

  So we lay a base of banana, sorry, what?

• 3:58Jason Bateman?

  Have you started filming yet?

• 4:01Sean Hayes?

  No, how did the table read go?

• 4:03Will Arnett?

  No, great.

• 4:03Jason Bateman?

  Quiet, Chunk. What's up, Will? Have you started working yet?

• 4:08Will Arnett?

  Chunk is actually my nickname. It is.

• 4:13Will Arnett?

  No, not.

• 4:14Jason Bateman?

  You're there for fittings and rehearsals?

• 4:16Will Arnett?

  Yeah, table reads, rehearsals, all that kind of stuff.

• 4:18Jason Bateman?

  And when do we start actually rolling?

• 4:20Will Arnett?

  A week.

• 4:21Jason Bateman?

  Wow. Oh, my God. Are you excited? You nervous?

• 4:26Will Arnett?

  All of the above, man. Very excited, very nervous, really cool, really excited about the cast.

• 4:31Jason Bateman?

  And remind our listener what this is again?

• 4:33Will Arnett?

  This is The Challenger.

• 4:36Jason Bateman?

  Oh, right.

• 4:37Will Arnett?

  Limited series for Amazon. And the great Kristen Stewart is playing Sally Ride.

• 4:43Jason Bateman?

  The great Kristen Stewart.

• 4:44Will Arnett?

  Yeah, who's a friend of the pod.

• 4:46Jason Bateman?

  So that was the Challenger disaster. Do we all remember where we were?

• 4:51Sean Hayes?

  Yeah, I was in, I was fifth grade, right? What year was it, Will?

• 4:54Jason Bateman?

  Did you still?

• 4:54Will Arnett?

  No, no, no, we're 10th grade.

• 4:56Jason Bateman?

  Listen, should we just, we'll come back in five minutes when Sean's done with his breakfast?

• 5:00Will Arnett?

  Sean, what is it, by the way? What is it? What do we have?

• 5:02Sean Hayes?

  Tuna fish sandwich.

• 5:03Jason Bateman?

  No. It's not even, it's not 10 yet.

• 5:07Will Arnett?

  It's 9:30 in the morning tuna fish sandwich. In his defense, he's been up on and off since four, so.

• 5:15Jason Bateman?

  Guys, I've been sick. Thanks for asking.

• 5:18Sean Hayes?

  Have you really? You have been?

• 5:19Jason Bateman?

  Yeah, I'm getting over a two or three day situation. It was a light illness. And I feel like I'm on the right side of it now.

• 5:28Sean Hayes?

  Oh, good.

• 5:29Will Arnett?

  Like a cold type deal?

• 5:30Sean Hayes?

  What, coughing?

• 5:31Jason Bateman?

  Yeah, a little tight throat. You might hear a cough here or there during our time together this morning.

• 5:35Sean Hayes?

  I would have never known from the, when we recorded two days ago, or never three days ago.

• 5:39Jason Bateman?

  Yeah, it was coming on hot. I almost canceled today, yesterday. But I woke up this morning and felt okay.

• 5:45Will Arnett?

  No fave, no fave.

• 5:46Jason Bateman?

  I'm a big fan of our guest today, so.

• 5:48Will Arnett?

  Oh, wow, you must be.

• 5:51Jason Bateman?

  Before we get to her, though, I did want to say that during my illness here, I had some soup.

• 6:03Jason Bateman?

  I'm a big, big, big soup fan.

• 6:05Will Arnett?

  Okay.

• 6:06Jason Bateman?

  But then.

• 6:07Will Arnett?

  I mean, I'm so fucking glad this is getting out.

• 6:09Jason Bateman?

  Yeah. But now, but I don't feel like I'm as big a soup fan as I was a few days ago because somebody ruined soup for me. They said to me, hey, I was having mushroom soup. And they said, hey, what is that? Is that the bachelor's gravy? I said, what are you talking about?

• 6:25Sean Hayes?

  The bachelor's gravy.

• 6:26Jason Bateman?

  Well, cream of mushroom. Cream of mushroom is the bachelor's gravy. What are you talking about? Well, yeah, yeah, yeah. When you were a bachelor, you didn't just like heat up cream of mushroom and put it over chicken breast and stuff like that? Like, no. So what they did for me, they've now classified soup as sauce. And they're right. And they're right. Have you ever thought about that? You're spooning, out of a bowl, you're spooning sauce into your mouth. And now I don't think it's fucking ruined for me.

• 6:53Sean Hayes?

  No, but that's, but that's true. A lot of soups are like sauces, you know?

• 6:57Jason Bateman?

  Yeah, it's runny sauce.

• 6:59Sean Hayes?

  Yeah, but.

• 7:00Will Arnett?

  Well, certainly creamy soups. If you're having a watery. Yeah, if you're having a watery.

• 7:04Jason Bateman?

  Well, that's some of my favorite soup is cream of tomato and mushroom.

• 7:09Sean Hayes?

  You're like a cream base.

• 7:11Will Arnett?

  What do you, now, didn't I once see you chugging hollandaise out of a travel mug? Am I wrong?

• 7:16Jason Bateman?

  That was Sean.

• 7:17Will Arnett?

  Okay.

• 7:18Sean Hayes?

  But what about, like, remember, I just had another can of peas last night? Because I like them as a snack.

• 7:23Will Arnett?

  I mean, you've got, and let's, I think you told me, you have 20,000 cans buried downstairs in the bunker, right? Is that?

• 7:32Sean Hayes?

  I do, but Jay, like, that's like pea soup to me.

• 7:35Jason Bateman?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 7:35Sean Hayes?

  You know what I mean?

• 7:36Jason Bateman?

  No, I get it.

• 7:36Sean Hayes?

  So that's, yeah.

• 7:37Jason Bateman?

  Yeah, yeah, there's another one. Pea soup, cream of pea. Well, pea soup's always kind of creamy.

• 7:41Will Arnett?

  Slippy, slippy soup.

• 7:43Jason Bateman?

  It's so great. It's sauce. And I'll tell you, next time, you can't get it out of your head. It's ruined for you.

• 7:48Sean Hayes?

  On your dip of grilled cheese in tomato sauce.

• 7:51Will Arnett?

  Who said to you, the bachelor's gravy? Who said that?

• 7:54Jason Bateman?

  I won't say.

• 7:55Will Arnett?

  Remember, because I hate, you know, you got to consider the source. Remember we did the tour? And that guy was married to somebody that we know, that you guys know. And he said, you know, like, hey, how's your reality show going? That fucking asshole.

• 8:06Jason Bateman?

  Yeah, yeah. And then I couldn't get out of my head.

• 8:09Will Arnett?

  I know. He's always got a smart fucking remark. And I'm like, hey, you know what? This guy's a fucking dick. So consider the fucking source. That goes for everything. I try to do that in my own life. Consider the fucking source.

• 8:19Sean Hayes?

  And where it's coming from.

• 8:20Will Arnett?

  If you like it, you like it. And so he says that. Who gives a shit?

• 8:23Jason Bateman?

  Yeah.

• 8:24Will Arnett?

  I mean, life, how much, we're on the back nine here.

• 8:28Jason Bateman?

  Yeah, Will, why don't you break something real quick?

• 8:31Will Arnett?

  I haven't insured the place yet, so I want to make sure.

• 8:35Jason Bateman?

  But you're right, you're right. Now, listen, talk about the source. Guys, our guest today is someone I know, I love, I've worked with. She is as kind as she is talented. And she's very, very kind. She's been in your hearts and minds and on your TVs and movie screens for over 30 years. In 1994, she won a fireplace on The Price is Right, but things got even better for her. Yeah, things got even better in 97. When she graduated from Loyola Marymount, she started this fantastic career. You've liked her in Step by Step and Third Rock from the Sun, but you've loved her in Avengers films, Mad Men, Bloodline, Dead to Me, and her latest Emmy-winning role in the show We Had Weird Fake Sex in DTF St. Louis. Folks, it's one of the best folks, Linda Cardellini.

• 9:16Sean Hayes?

  Wait, wow.

• 9:18Jason Bateman?

  Get it on out here, Linda.

• 9:21Sean Hayes?

  Linda, it's so nice to meet you.

• 9:23Speaker 03

  Linda Cardellini.

• 9:24Jason Bateman?

  Linda.

• 9:25Speaker 03

  Nice to see you guys.

• 9:26Sean Hayes?

  You can ask Jason. I went on and on and on about you in that show, DTF.

• 9:32Jason Bateman?

  Yes, he did.

• 9:33Sean Hayes?

  You were just phenomenal.

• 9:34Speaker 03

  He never told me.

• 9:36Sean Hayes?

  No, it was after, it was after it was done.

• 9:38Will Arnett?

  And it wasn't, it wasn't Jason-centric enough, I don't think that.

• 9:42Jason Bateman?

  You'd weave me in enough, but she's got a big head. You don't want to pop that thing, you know?

• 9:47Speaker 03

  No.

• 9:47Jason Bateman?

  She's too high on it.

• 9:49Speaker 03

  It looks bigger than your guys' right now.

• 9:52Jason Bateman?

  But yeah, we are fresh off

• 9:55Jason Bateman?

  an incredibly exciting, enormously well-deserved Emmy win a few nights ago.

• 10:01Sean Hayes?

  Oh, congratulations.

• 10:02Jason Bateman?

  Yeah.

• 10:02Sean Hayes?

  Wow, that's great.

• 10:04Jason Bateman?

  She and David Harbour both won.

• 10:07Will Arnett?

  I didn't even know.

• 10:08Jason Bateman?

  Yeah, and David Harbour won, Steve Conrad won for both writing and directing.

• 10:13Will Arnett?

  Amazing.

• 10:14Jason Bateman?

  Yeah, it's just.

• 10:15Speaker 03

  Our DP, our DP won?

• 10:17Jason Bateman?

  Exactly.

• 10:18Speaker 03

  Our editors?

• 10:19Will Arnett?

  Incredible.

• 10:20Jason Bateman?

  Editor, it's, yeah, it's, we're gonna talk about DTF, we're gonna, we're gonna start a little earlier. Okay?

• 10:26Speaker 03

  Okay, I don't know.

• 10:27Sean Hayes?

  That's good, yeah.

• 10:28Will Arnett?

  Yeah, yeah, let's go over.

• 10:28Sean Hayes?

  It was one of the best shows, honestly, I was on the phone with Jason like an hour or two hours after. It was one of the best shows I've ever seen.

• 10:35Jason Bateman?

  You were very, very sweet.

• 10:36Will Arnett?

  Wow.

• 10:37Sean Hayes?

  It's so gripping and so different and so, I mean, that's what I said to Jason.

• 10:42Will Arnett?

  And it's on now, I can look at, I can watch it now?

• 10:44Jason Bateman?

  You can, on HBO.

• 10:46Will Arnett?

  Maybe, I'm kidding. You know I saw it, you did.

• 10:51Sean Hayes?

  But you know, you try to find, you try to find like new things that you haven't seen, you know, that's the hardest thing. It's coming, coming up with a concept that people haven't seen before. And when I watched it, it was so different and you're like, it's just, it was just incredible.

• 11:05Jason Bateman?

  Steve Conrad's an incredibly unique brain, voice.

• 11:09Will Arnett?

  Gifted.

• 11:09Jason Bateman?

  Director, writer, gifted, talented.

• 11:12Speaker 03

  Nicest guy, too.

• 11:13Jason Bateman?

  Oh, my God, yeah, talk about as kind as talented, yeah. All right, so here we are.

• 11:18Will Arnett?

  Here we are.

• 11:19Speaker 03

  Here we are, hi, guys, thanks for having me.

• 11:20Will Arnett?

  Lynda Cardellini, I don't know you, I don't think we've ever met before.

• 11:23Sean Hayes?

  Likewise.

• 11:24Will Arnett?

  Right, have we ever met, Lynda?

• 11:25Speaker 03

  I don't know.

• 11:26Jason Bateman?

  You're supposed to know that, dick.

• 11:28Will Arnett?

  I know I am, that's why I said it.

• 11:30Speaker 03

  I know, but it's like, have you been around for a long time? I feel like everybody meets everybody at some point, but.

• 11:36Will Arnett?

  I've been around a long time, where, where, where are you from?

• 11:39Speaker 03

  I'm from Northern California, in the Bay Area.

• 11:41Sean Hayes?

  Oh, yeah? In the city, in San Francisco, or like?

• 11:44Speaker 03

  No, born in Redwood City, down the peninsula.

• 11:47Sean Hayes?

  Oh, wow.

• 11:48Speaker 03

  Kind of like Stanford University area.

• 11:49Jason Bateman?

  Sounds so pretty.

• 11:50Sean Hayes?

  You know, I just read something that's like the coolest place to live, temperature-wise, in all of the country.

• 11:55Speaker 03

  In Redwood City, there is an arch and it says climate best by government test.

• 11:59Jason Bateman?

  Is that right?

• 12:00Speaker 03

  It's the big thing.

• 12:01Jason Bateman?

  Wow, I bet the people in Alaska would take issue with that, with Sean Stat.

• 12:05Sean Hayes?

  Oh, yeah.

• 12:06Jason Bateman?

  Well, maybe we're talking continental.

• 12:07Sean Hayes?

  Maybe continental.

• 12:08Will Arnett?

  No, not cool, like, like, like, like most, like temper, like, just like the best, right? Is that what they're saying?

• 12:14Speaker 03

  It's got great weather.

• 12:14Jason Bateman?

  So, not too cold, not too cold, not too hot.

• 12:17Speaker 03

  Not too hot, not too cold.

• 12:17Jason Bateman?

  It's the porridge.

• 12:18Speaker 03

  Colder than LA, though, if you're used to LA.

• 12:20Jason Bateman?

  Yeah.

• 12:21Speaker 03

  Which I am, it's always like 10 degrees colder.

• 12:23Jason Bateman?

  Yeah, so you're, so you're up there, so you're, you're in, you're in, you're in NorCal as a kid and you're thinking, huh, what should I do? Was, did it happen?

• 12:35Speaker 03

  Acting, that sounds easy.

• 12:37Jason Bateman?

  Right, but like, were you, were you so young when it, when it struck you that you really weren't thinking about a career? Were you one of those, one of those turds like me? Or was it, was it, were you, were you already kind of thinking about a career and then this thing kind of sparked your fancy? And you thought, well, could I make a living in this? When did it start?

• 12:53Speaker 03

  I was 11 and there was a teacher who came to our school, she was a new teacher. And I was the baby of force, I was always like trying to get attention.

• 13:00Jason Bateman?

  Yeah.

• 13:01Speaker 03

  Um, and I would always be doing shows and I was very emotional as a kid, so I didn't know where to put all those things. So I'd put them in these emotional.

• 13:08Jason Bateman?

  Wait, wait, what does it look like?

• 13:09Speaker 03

  Shows in the front row.

• 13:10Jason Bateman?

  You say you're very emotional, what does it look like? Are you breaking things at dinner because they didn't, they didn't, they didn't put in front of you what you wanted?

• 13:16Speaker 03

  No, just like felt things incredibly deeply and always, you know, cry at a commercial, you know. Very, everybody's problems were, I felt them a million times over.

• 13:26Jason Bateman?

  You were a deep empath, yeah.

• 13:27Speaker 03

  Yeah, told I was too sensitive, yeah.

• 13:29Jason Bateman?

  Right, and still, still to this day, I'll bet.

• 13:31Speaker 03

  Kind of a crybaby problem.

• 13:32Jason Bateman?

  In a great way.

• 13:33Speaker 03

  Thank you, yes, true.

• 13:34Jason Bateman?

  Right, in a great way, I'll bet you're still listening and I bet it makes you a great actor. I mean, I know it makes you a great actor, but is that part of it?

• 13:39Speaker 03

  I mean, I think it was the one thing I could feel like, oh, I could put that there.

• 13:43Jason Bateman?

  Yes.

• 13:43Speaker 03

  This is a problem, but it's not a problem in this, in this industry, so that will help.

• 13:48Jason Bateman?

  So that was part of the thinking when you started kind of playing around with you, were like, oh, this is a great way to kind of just, uh, put all this stuff over here?

• 13:55Speaker 03

  Get it out.

• 13:55Jason Bateman?

  Yeah?

• 13:55Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 13:56Jason Bateman?

  And so like, do you, you cry easy on camera?

• 13:59Speaker 03

  Yeah, in life, in general.

• 14:01Will Arnett?

  Really? What are some of the triggers? And we're not gonna say it, but just tell.

• 14:04Speaker 03

  I mean, you tell me, if I feel too deeply, if I get angry, like, it just, like, that's the first thing. But then I realized that it actually, I actually have to do it sometimes, so if I haven't cried in a while, I literally have to do it. So something will come along and make me cry.

• 14:18Will Arnett?

  Release the bow, release.

• 14:18Speaker 03

  And then I feel better after that.

• 14:21Jason Bateman?

  So if you were to yell at me, if you were angry at me, you're one of those people that while you're screaming at me, you start crying?

• 14:26Speaker 03

  Yes, perhaps.

• 14:27Jason Bateman?

  That's how, that's helpful for me, you know?

• 14:29Speaker 03

  I could try it.

• 14:30Jason Bateman?

  Yeah, that'd be helpful.

• 14:31Will Arnett?

  Because that cues you, because you're not sure of what you're supposed to respond to, how you're emotionally.

• 14:35Jason Bateman?

  I'm getting yelled at, yeah, I'm feeling bad, but then she's crying and now I feel like.

• 14:39Will Arnett?

  And then you're like, oh, brain tells me this emotional moment.

• 14:43Jason Bateman?

  I have upper hand, yes.

• 14:44Will Arnett?

  This is the moment, I will feel this particular emotion.

• 14:52Jason Bateman?

  All right, so then what was, what was the first, what was the first thing you started doing up there that was like, okay, well, this is, I don't suck at this?

• 14:58Speaker 03

  Okay, so this teacher came and she made everybody sing, and so I had to sing. And then I got called in after class and she said, I'd like you to do the play. And it was a Christmas play and then, I think I was like.

• 15:09Sean Hayes?

  What was the name of it?

• 15:10Jason Bateman?

  I'm kidding.

• 15:11Speaker 03

  I think she wrote it, she wrote it, it was great.

• 15:13Jason Bateman?

  Let's talk about Kenny Rogers, Kenny Rogers and playing an elf.

• 15:17Speaker 03

  She did this community theater and I was an old lady in the music man at 11 years old.

• 15:23Sean Hayes?

  Yeah, Mrs. Peru.

• 15:24Speaker 03

  Giant stage and, and then I fell in love with it and I was like, ooh, this is for me.

• 15:29Jason Bateman?

  Okay, all right.

• 15:30Speaker 03

  And then I didn't know how I would do it, wasn't like anybody in, Northern California is so far away from Southern California in terms of the industry, especially at that time. It was like, nobody was doing that for a living, so I didn't know how I would do it, but.

• 15:42Jason Bateman?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 15:43Sean Hayes?

  How old were you when you were in that?

• 15:45Speaker 03

  11.

• 15:46Sean Hayes?

  11, do you remember, pick a little, pick a little, pick a little.

• 15:48Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah.

• 15:48Sean Hayes?

  Cheap, cheap, cheap.

• 15:49Speaker 03

  Cheap, cheap, cheap, yeah, and I was very, very tiny. I didn't like hit puberty till 16 or so, so I was extraordinarily small. So I was kind of the smallest kid on the stage, dressed like a little old lady and I stuffed my bra a little bit, you know? So I did all these things for laughs and then it worked out.

• 16:07Sean Hayes?

  That's great.

• 16:08Jason Bateman?

  And you still sing to this day, yes?

• 16:11Speaker 03

  I do, I, I'm asked to sing, you know, sometimes in things. And it's funny to me because I'm just sort of an actor who can kind of sing, but not totally.

• 16:22Jason Bateman?

  Right, so if you were cast in something that, or if you were, if you were, if, if, if the great Rick Kurtzman called and said, we have, we have an opportunity for you to do either a musical comedy, right, on, on Broadway or, or film that was music. You wouldn't shy away from it, you'd say, oh, yeah, yeah, I can, I can, I can sing, I can act, I mean, you'd like, like.

• 16:40Speaker 03

  I would love to do that, that I would love to do.

• 16:43Will Arnett?

  How would, how would?

• 16:44Speaker 03

  I don't know if I'd be great at it, but I would love to do it.

• 16:46Will Arnett?

  How would the call go from Rick?

• 16:47Sean Hayes?

  Rick's an agent for Tracy.

• 16:48Jason Bateman?

  No, no, no, it'd be like this, hello, Lynda, I've got Rick Kurtzman calling.

• 16:52Will Arnett?

  Yeah.

• 16:52Jason Bateman?

  And you'd be, oh, okay, great, and you're on hold. Yeah, what, what, he's, he's not, you know, what's great about Rick, he, he wouldn't start with like, hey, Cartalines.

• 17:01Will Arnett?

  No, no, no, no, no.

• 17:03Sean Hayes?

  He jumps right in.

• 17:04Jason Bateman?

  He's an, he's, he's an adult and he's classy and.

• 17:07Will Arnett?

  We love Rick Kurtzman.

• 17:08Jason Bateman?

  We love Rick Kurtzman.

• 17:09Speaker 03

  Yeah, I love Rick.

• 17:10Jason Bateman?

  All right, so then.

• 17:11Will Arnett?

  So then.

• 17:12Jason Bateman?

  Then, so then.

• 17:13Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 17:14Jason Bateman?

  We gather a little bit of momentum in NorCal.

• 17:17Speaker 03

  Sure, sure, you could, I don't know about that, but sure.

• 17:20Will Arnett?

  Are you hating this, Lynda?

• 17:21Speaker 03

  No, no, I'm so, I'm excited to be here, thanks, guys.

• 17:25Will Arnett?

  No, but Jason's, but Jason, the way that Jason goes about it is a little nauseating, right?

• 17:29Speaker 03

  I love Jason, you guys, I love him, he's the best.

• 17:33Jason Bateman?

  He's the best, okay, so then, he's the best.

• 17:37Speaker 03

  He is, he's great.

• 17:39Jason Bateman?

  So we, we.

• 17:40Speaker 03

  That's why I'm on here, to say he's the best.

• 17:42Jason Bateman?

  But you love them too, all right, so then you strap on the back.

• 17:46Speaker 03

  Now that I've met you, I love it.

• 17:47Jason Bateman?

  You strap on the backpack, you start walking down the, the, the, um, Pacific Coast Highway.

• 17:52Speaker 03

  The California incline.

• 17:53Jason Bateman?

  Yeah, down to Los Angeles, because you want, you want to make it. And you, you see the biggest studio in Hollywood that you can, that you stumble upon there coming off the, the Pacific Coast Highway. You see CBS Television City, you walk in there and they're doing The Price is Right.

• 18:07Speaker 03

  That's right.

• 18:08Sean Hayes?

  Oh, wait, you were on The Price is Right, I used to watch that all the time.

• 18:10Jason Bateman?

  She won a fireplace, she won a fireplace, Sean.

• 18:14Sean Hayes?

  Wait, you were on The Price is Right, that's so cool.

• 18:16Jason Bateman?

  Walk us through that, why, why were you on that? And I bet you've told this story a million times, but we're new.

• 18:21Speaker 03

  I never, this story never gets old to me.

• 18:23Sean Hayes?

  I love it, I don't know it.

• 18:25Jason Bateman?

  Please, yeah.

• 18:26Speaker 03

  So I was in college and I needed money, of course, and I was like, let's go on The Price is Right. I also watched that show religiously with my grandmother, that and Days of Our Lives and Wheel of Fortune were like our shows. So the idea that you could stand in line all morning long, I mean, you had to get there at crack of dawn, stand in line and wait and possibly be on the show was a dream come true. So we went with, you know, we all ditched class and there was eight or 10 of us.

• 18:52Jason Bateman?

  Did you have T-shirts on that, that would have sort of like a pick me, pick me?

• 18:54Speaker 03

  Well, in a way, they told us that you should either wear your college shirt or your, like, a solid color. So I wore a solid green shirt and funny enough, like, in my hair, if you look closely enough at that, I have like the drama masks.

• 19:09Jason Bateman?

  No.

• 19:10Speaker 03

  I was a hair, yeah, that's the kind, yeah, like, I had like a clip with the drama masks.

• 19:16Jason Bateman?

  Your hair tie, no, Lynda.

• 19:18Speaker 03

  I know, right?

• 19:19Will Arnett?

  God bless.

• 19:20Speaker 03

  Uh, so that's how excited I was about theater.

• 19:22Sean Hayes?

  And where did you skip school? I missed that, where did, where were you going to college at?

• 19:25Speaker 03

  Loyola Marymount.

• 19:26Sean Hayes?

  Oh, Loyola Marymount, sorry, go ahead.

• 19:27Speaker 03

  So I came down to LA to be an actor under the guise of school.

• 19:31Jason Bateman?

  Yeah, and you're studying drama, you graduated with a drama degree.

• 19:34Speaker 03

  Eventually, yes, it took me a long time because I started working.

• 19:37Jason Bateman?

  Sure, and you get distracted, you know? All right, but wait, so you're sitting in the audience.

• 19:41Will Arnett?

  Yeah.

• 19:41Speaker 03

  No, no, so I, you have to go through this huge line.

• 19:44Jason Bateman?

  Yeah.

• 19:44Speaker 03

  And we were with all these people and we were with this guy and they were really talking to this guy that we know and he was like yucking it up with them and I was like, ah, Jeff's gonna get on The Price is Right and we're not gonna get on The Price is Right.

• 19:55Will Arnett?

  Fucking Jeff.

• 19:56Speaker 03

  So and they scattered us all around, like.

• 19:58Will Arnett?

  Jeff with the G, sorry, just.

• 19:59Speaker 03

  I think a Jeff.

• 20:00Sean Hayes?

  Yeah, of course.

• 20:01Speaker 03

  And then when they said, come on down, you know, they sat us all separate from each other, so nobody was sitting next to each other because there were so many of us. And then they called my name, pronounced it incorrectly, but I didn't care, and then.

• 20:14Jason Bateman?

  How they pronounce it?

• 20:15Speaker 03

  Cartal, Cartalenny.

• 20:17Jason Bateman?

  Cartalenny, yeah, but now, so that's just a random, they, what do they, do they kind of interview you as you're walking in to know whether you've got, you've got spunk or not, right?

• 20:27Speaker 03

  Yeah, I guess so.

• 20:28Sean Hayes?

  Yeah, but isn't it true, though, like, the stage where they film it is so much smaller than you think, like? Because I walk down there a long time.

• 20:38Sean Hayes?

  I walked down there a long time ago.

• 20:40Will Arnett?

  Sorry, Sean's still in our showbiz. He can't believe we just told him that Tatooine's not a real planet. Go ahead, Sean.

• 20:46Speaker 03

  What?

• 20:48Sean Hayes?

  I know. I really am was blown away. I was like, wait, so the big wheel that you spin and everything fits on such a small stage? And the camera angles just make it look like it's huge? Is that right?

• 20:57Speaker 03

  Yes, true. I will say, bro, the noise level of people screaming that you're an idiot because you don't know the price of something.

• 21:06Sean Hayes?

  Yeah.

• 21:06Speaker 03

  That cannot be, that cannot be felt through the television.

• 21:09Sean Hayes?

  That's a lot of smack talk there.

• 21:10Speaker 03

  That in real life is enormous.

• 21:13Sean Hayes?

  Fuck you. What do you fucking know?

• 21:14Speaker 03

  People screaming at you, yelling at you.

• 21:17Will Arnett?

  It'd be kind of funny to do right now is Price is Right and just have the contestants be some of these oligarch billionaires, you know? And just, and then just do things, but the price they have to do is like price it like a loaf of bread or something. They go, a million dollars?

• 21:31Will Arnett?

  They have no sense.

• 21:32Sean Hayes?

  They're so over.

• 21:33Will Arnett?

  A stick of butter. I don't know, 10 grand? What's a stick of butter? 10 grand?

• 21:40Jason Bateman?

  And we will be right back.

• 21:44Sean Hayes?

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• 25:19Jason Bateman?

  And now, back to the show.

• 25:22Jason Bateman?

  Okay, so they, so they, so they mispronounce your name, and holy shit, you shoot up out of the chair.

• 25:28Speaker 03

  The greatest feeling of all time. Like, I actually compare anything great that happens to me to the moment my name was called on The Price is Right, because that moment of being chosen by that show at that moment in my life was the most present feeling of jubilation I have ever.

• 25:47Jason Bateman?

  And let me ask you a question. Just a few nights ago, was that the first night your name has been called since you were sitting in that chair?

• 25:54Speaker 03

  My own specific name like that, yes. And it was a very similar feeling, except for that I worked for that one, you know? So it was like...

• 26:02Sean Hayes?

  And tell me about that moment when your name is called to the, to, what's going through your head as you're walking up to the stage?

• 26:09Jason Bateman?

  Okay, well... On Price is Right or the Emmys?

• 26:11Will Arnett?

  Well, Sean, as you pointed out, it's a short walk, because it's so much smaller when you get there.

• 26:16Speaker 03

  The Emmys looked bigger, actually, to me. The Emmys, that staircase was long.

• 26:20Sean Hayes?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 26:21Jason Bateman?

  Right. But, but, but on Price is Right, you've got a short, short jaunt down there. You're pumped, right? All your friends are screaming for you.

• 26:27Speaker 03

  I mean, I'm hugging strangers. I'm jumping up and down. Like, I am...

• 26:31Jason Bateman?

  You're tightening your hair tie.

• 26:32Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah.

• 26:32Sean Hayes?

  And what did you bid on that got you up from down there on the stage?

• 26:36Speaker 03

  I was, okay, first of all, when you get picked, they give you instructions, I mean, back a million years ago, they gave you instructions, which was, the camera finds you, and you run down to the...

• 26:46Jason Bateman?

  They do that. Snap zoom.

• 26:47Speaker 03

  Or you walk down, or you do whatever.

• 26:48Sean Hayes?

  Sure.

• 26:48Jason Bateman?

  Yeah. Snap zoom on you as you get up.

• 26:50Speaker 03

  Yes. And so then I just started running and jumping, and then in the middle of it, I realized I'm supposed to be running, you know, waving my hands. So I'm running down the aisle, waving my hand.

• 26:59Jason Bateman?

  Oh, my God, I can't wait to dig it up.

• 27:01Speaker 03

  Like a moron. And then hugging a stranger, jumping up and down.

• 27:04Jason Bateman?

  So you get down there, you've got four stalls.

• 27:06Speaker 03

  I get down there, I'm terrible, terrible. Do not know the price of anything. I'm totally nervous. I'm awful at the game.

• 27:14Jason Bateman?

  So you, so you missed, what, two or three?

• 27:16Speaker 03

  Oh, I was, it was, I think you get, what, six tries? There's six people they call up. I was called up in the first four, and I was so awful at it. And so it took to the very last, the very, very last...

• 27:28Jason Bateman?

  Oh, my God, it was a sweat. Yeah.

• 27:30Speaker 03

  Yeah, the last opportunity.

• 27:32Sean Hayes?

  And what was the, what was the item?

• 27:33Speaker 03

  It was a gas fireplace.

• 27:36Sean Hayes?

  Okay, and so you bid on that and you won?

• 27:39Speaker 03

  Yes. I had, my friend was in the audience, and she yelled, my friend Molly was like, "It's your last chance, Cardellini." And I thought, oh, my God, I'll never, because once you're on, you can't be on again. And I thought, oh, my God, if I don't get to spin that wheel, if I don't get to talk to Bob Barker, this is it.

• 27:55Sean Hayes?

  So then what was the game when you got up there with Bob?

• 27:57Speaker 03

  Oh, it was awful. It was some game that had no kitsch to it. It was pick a price and then just subtract that price from a dollar. And it was like, it was all math. It wasn't like a yodeling person or a dice.

• 28:09Jason Bateman?

  The Swiss mountain, the Swiss mountain.

• 28:10Speaker 03

  No, it was nothing. No plinko. It was just add and subtract. You know, like, there's like four great games, and there's two that are kind of like, meh.

• 28:18Sean Hayes?

  Yeah, because they're running short on time or something.

• 28:21Speaker 03

  And then I didn't understand it, because I was so overcome. And I had looked at Bob Barker, he's like, "Do you understand what you're doing?" And I was like, "No." And then they, he's like, "Explain it again." And so they explained it again. When the lights went down, he turned to me and goes, "Just nod your head and say yes, kid." And I was like, "Okay."

• 28:36Will Arnett?

  No.

• 28:38Jason Bateman?

  Was he ever looking right?

• 28:39Speaker 03

  I just nodded my head and said, "Yes." And then I was terrible at the game. I lost.

• 28:42Jason Bateman?

  Wow.

• 28:42Speaker 03

  And it was a black lacquer bedroom set that I could have won.

• 28:46Jason Bateman?

  It would have gone great with a gas fireplace.

• 28:47Speaker 03

  Which I had already had, because it was the 90s.

• 28:50Jason Bateman?

  Right. Okay, so then you didn't get to spin the wheel, but your friends must have been...

• 28:54Speaker 03

  I did spin the wheel. I did. And I got 90 cents. But it didn't matter, because the woman in front of me got a dollar.

• 29:00Sean Hayes?

  Ah.

• 29:01Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 29:02Will Arnett?

  It wasn't your day. It was not your day.

• 29:04Speaker 03

  It clearly was not my day. It was partially my day, but not totally my day.

• 29:07Sean Hayes?

  All right, so now go back to the Emmys. My question about when your name is called and you're walking down the aisle, what's going through your head as you're walking up to the stage?

• 29:16Speaker 03

  Oh, my God, this just really happened.

• 29:18Sean Hayes?

  Yeah, like, it's surreal, right?

• 29:19Speaker 03

  Like, oh, my God, this is really happening. Like, it sort of is, it was just sort of out of body.

• 29:25Sean Hayes?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 29:26Speaker 03

  And then also, just, it was so great, because Jason, Amanda, and Steve, and, you know, David, they were all sitting right in the front, and Richard, they were all sitting right there. So I could see you guys. So it felt like, that kept it like a real moment instead of being so...

• 29:43Jason Bateman?

  But as an, as an, as an actor, as you, as you were walking up the stairs, did you, did you immediately start thinking about your speech and basically your lines? Like, oh, God, I don't want to forget my lines. I got, like, did you have something prepared? And were you starting to think about that, like, how you were about, because I would just imagine that as you go up there and as you turn at the podium, it's effectively like you're going on camera there. And just as actors were trained, like, okay, now it's go time, like, you know, it's time to talk and kind of get it all together? Or were you able to, like, kind of just be present and just be raw? Or what, what was that like?

• 30:20Speaker 03

  Well, I had, somebody made me write it down. They're like, you have to write something down. So I, like, wrote it into my phone, because I didn't want to have to wear glasses. I needed the font to be big. Now I have to wear glasses. And so I had it on my phone, and I was gonna try to read it, and then when I got there, I just wanted to... Be there.

• 30:37Jason Bateman?

  Right.

• 30:37Speaker 03

  And I wasn't really, I'm not great at speeches. It's not my thing at all. Like, I'm great if somebody writes something. No, I'm not great. I won't say that. I can do it if somebody writes something for me.

• 30:47Jason Bateman?

  We're actors.

• 30:47Speaker 03

  But when it's, when it's my own personal self, I never feel like it's enough. I have this thing where I have a lot of thank you cards in my drawer and I don't actually send them because I feel like it's never enough of what I want to say. So I have a, I have a block with a speech.

• 31:00Jason Bateman?

  Right.

• 31:01Speaker 03

  I know, I got up there and I just felt like.

• 31:04Jason Bateman?

  You were awesome.

• 31:04Speaker 03

  I kind of wanted to just, number one, say my parents. Like, that was my biggest dream was to be able to say thank you to my parents.

• 31:11Jason Bateman?

  Yeah.

• 31:12Speaker 03

  And both of them had been kind of not feeling well recently and they're older. So I was, just wanted that to be the number one thing. So I figured if I get that out in my family, then at least I've got that. You guys would all understand if I forgot something.

• 31:24Jason Bateman?

  Yeah, that's the big fear, right? You forget to thank someone. So you think, well, maybe I shouldn't thank anybody then, you know?

• 31:29Sean Hayes?

  Too many people to cover.

• 31:29Speaker 03

  And it doesn't ever, it didn't go the way I thought it would go. And I was really overwhelmed and my hands were shaking and I, I feel like I should be.

• 31:38Jason Bateman?

  You imagine if you were calm and together up there?

• 31:40Speaker 03

  No, I mean, people do that. I'm, I'm, that's amazing to me, how people can be super calm and nonchalant. I, I just had none of that. And it was a little embarrassing. But as I was walking up, when you're saying, what do you think about it? I was like, don't fall and don't cry. And then, of course, I was shaking and crying. So, you know, it's like you, but that's kind of, you know, at the end of the day, it's like those moments where something is totally unexpected or undiscovered.

• 32:05Jason Bateman?

  And messy.

• 32:05Speaker 03

  And those feelings are messy and.

• 32:07Jason Bateman?

  Yeah, it's what we want when we're watching, you know?

• 32:09Will Arnett?

  You want it to feel real.

• 32:10Speaker 03

  That to me is like the great joy of being alive. You feel present. So it was like, I sort of just tried, I had to, I mean, I walked up stage and I'm like, oh, God, what did I say? And then I thought, well, I'm, I'm lucky I got to say it.

• 32:22Sean Hayes?

  Was that your first nomination?

• 32:24Speaker 03

  No, it was my fourth.

• 32:27Jason Bateman?

  But first win?

• 32:28Speaker 03

  First win.

• 32:29Jason Bateman?

  That's so great. It's so grand.

• 32:30Speaker 03

  You have a couple, Sean, right?

• 32:32Sean Hayes?

  Well, I mean, I don't know. I stopped counting.

• 32:35Jason Bateman?

  Yeah, go ahead, Sean.

• 32:35Speaker 03

  How many, how many?

• 32:36Sean Hayes?

  No, no.

• 32:37Jason Bateman?

  Walk the camera.

• 32:38Speaker 03

  I see one in the background there.

• 32:39Sean Hayes?

  I know, it's so stupid. It's like just puts.

• 32:41Speaker 03

  It's not stupid.

• 32:42Sean Hayes?

  Junk around. All right. So, uh, but, um, so you got, so what were the other ones?

• 32:47Jason Bateman?

  You flustered him.

• 32:47Sean Hayes?

  What was the one, what was the one that you got nominated for that you're like, I probably have a good chance at this? And you didn't?

• 32:53Speaker 03

  None, none. I don't, I'm not that person. So it's like, um.

• 32:57Sean Hayes?

  But you're proud of, you have to be proud of some of your work.

• 32:59Speaker 03

  I'm so proud of everything. I mean, I'm proud that I even get to do it for a living, to be honest. So it's like, you know, we get to do something that people, that you play at as a child and you get to continue it as a job, but that's unreal.

• 33:12Jason Bateman?

  You're so damn good at it. And, and, and having done it for so long and, and to be still going stronger than you've ever gone. And you were doing fricking great work and super strong momentum with your career even early on. So it's just awesome that you're still like ascending and like it's better than, I, I just, I think it's, it's, it's, it's pretty awesome. I, I, I revisited Freaks and Geeks a while back, um, and just looking at you there like.

• 33:39Sean Hayes?

  Oh, yeah.

• 33:40Jason Bateman?

  I mean, you looked like you were fricking 12 years old. Um, but you were, I, I just looked it up this morning. You were 22 on that? I mean, talk about playing young. My God.

• 33:51Sean Hayes?

  22.

• 33:51Jason Bateman?

  I can't believe you were 22 and playing, yeah, that was.

• 33:55Sean Hayes?

  How old were you on Step by Step?

• 33:59Speaker 03

  Younger than that, but I don't know.

• 34:01Sean Hayes?

  Yeah, that was like a long time ago. When Jason said that in the intro, I was like, Step by Step?

• 34:06Will Arnett?

  Oh, Step by Step? I don't remember that.

• 34:08Sean Hayes?

  With Suzanne Somers.

• 34:09Jason Bateman?

  Suzanne Somers and Patrick.

• 34:11Sean Hayes?

  Uh, yeah, that guy.

• 34:12Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 34:13Sean Hayes?

  Patrick, what's his name?

• 34:14Will Arnett?

  Duffy.

• 34:14Jason Bateman?

  Duffy, yeah. Yeah.

• 34:16Speaker 03

  That show, so I had to play, I was, there was a time where I played like plucky tomboy friends a lot on sitcoms.

• 34:25Jason Bateman?

  Right.

• 34:25Sean Hayes?

  Yeah.

• 34:25Speaker 03

  And it was live audience and I had to play somebody who's a pool shark, basically. Like somebody who's real cool, who's a bad influence on, on Stacy's character. And they had a pool shark teach me how to hit the shot. And so I had to bank, I had to hit three balls and bank them and then get it in, in one go.

• 34:44Sean Hayes?

  Yeah.

• 34:45Speaker 03

  And it was in front of a live audience and I practiced and practiced and practiced. And then I nailed the shot and that was also very much like a Price is Right moment.

• 34:52Will Arnett?

  Wow.

• 34:53Speaker 03

  It was like, ah, the audience, yeah, it was really fun.

• 34:56Sean Hayes?

  That's cool.

• 34:57Speaker 03

  It was like a sports moment. You know, like sometimes in our job, we get a sports moment.

• 35:01Sean Hayes?

  Yeah, what are those things on your resume that when, as you were growing up through the business that you had to just like, yeah, I can, like Jason was saying earlier, because I wrote like, yeah, I can do horseback riding and do, I just.

• 35:11Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah.

• 35:12Sean Hayes?

  I can bounce up tennis ball on a racket 250 consecutive times.

• 35:15Speaker 03

  Did you ever have to do any of those things?

• 35:18Sean Hayes?

  No, no, no, no. But I mean.

• 35:19Will Arnett?

  That was on your resume?

• 35:20Sean Hayes?

  Yeah, I could.

• 35:21Speaker 03

  You had to put special skills.

• 35:23Jason Bateman?

  Well, it's just basic, basic great ball skills, I think is what it said at the bottom.

• 35:29Sean Hayes?

  Ball skills. But did you ever have, have any other kind of skills that like, other than singing?

• 35:33Speaker 03

  Yeah, would write on there like skateboarding or, you know, and it would be moderately good, you know, not even really good at it. I just dabbled at it. And then if anybody ever called you on it, it was terrifying.

• 35:43Will Arnett?

  Fluent and Esperanto.

• 35:45Sean Hayes?

  Yeah. I would put at the bottom, I'd be like, accents, I can do southern, British. And like, I couldn't do any of them.

• 35:51Speaker 03

  Right, right.

• 35:51Will Arnett?

  Well, let me see, let's hear your southern accent real quick, Sean.

• 35:54Jason Bateman?

  I'd love, no, I want British first.

• 35:56Speaker 03

  Do your slate and your southern accent.

• 35:58Sean Hayes?

  Yeah, I used to do, by the way, you can't see it, but on video, I used to do this in commercial auditions. You know how you'd say your name, you'd slate your name and you'd say, hi, I'm Sean Hayes? And they'd want you to do profiles. So you turn right and then you turn left, right? Because they want to see what you look like on camera on the side. So I would do this, I'd go, hi, I'm Sean Hayes. And I'd go like this and then I'd go. Like that, like I was completely deformed on one side. But you couldn't tell if you were looking straight ahead.

• 36:25Jason Bateman?

  Oh, my God. All right. So, uh, talk about, uh, faking stuff on your resume. Did you put at the bottom of your resume that you are fluent in medical terminology to get the gig on ER?

• 36:37Sean Hayes?

  Oh, yeah.

• 36:38Jason Bateman?

  Went all the way over there to ER. An incredible show that was already up and running and was a huge hit. Going on to that show, was that intimidating, walking into that, to that structure?

• 36:49Sean Hayes?

  Yeah, that was huge.

• 36:50Speaker 03

  I was, I was just excited. They were, you know, they sent me these episodes of, I had a meeting and I was, I was meeting with John Wells and it was for different shows. And they were talking about different parts they had on different shows at the time. I think there was West Wing on at the time and ER on the time. And they talked about this part and she was a nurse who had a young son. And I had been playing, you know, I, I looked very young and I'd been playing sort of really young people. So I thought, oh, here's a single mother, like I haven't done that at all.

• 37:18Jason Bateman?

  Right.

• 37:18Speaker 03

  And, um, they sent me these episodes where Noah and Goran and Mackay, their characters went to Africa and they shot these, these episodes in Africa. And I was just, it was unlike anything I had seen.

• 37:31Jason Bateman?

  Yeah.

• 37:32Speaker 03

  On TV at the time. And I thought, oh, my God, this is beautiful. What these actors are incredible and this writing is so amazing. And it's a procedural, but I'd never seen anything like that happen on a procedural. And they were taking it, you know, just, just the stakes were so high. And so I went in for a meeting and Jonathan Kaplan, who's a great director, was in there and a bunch of people. And we had such a nice meeting and it was such a lovely group of people. Um, and I was meant only to stay for a year because I was kind of just sort of, I had come off Scooby Doo and I had had some, I, I just wanted to sort of stay and I had been traveling a lot and I was like, okay, I'll stay. And I, I think my contract was like a year. And then I just loved it there. I stayed and stayed and stayed.

• 38:13Jason Bateman?

  That must have been, you must.

• 38:15Speaker 03

  Those are still my friends.

• 38:16Jason Bateman?

  Great having, like, did you see Noah the other night at?

• 38:18Speaker 03

  I did, I did, yeah.

• 38:20Jason Bateman?

  What's going on with him right now?

• 38:21Sean Hayes?

  Yeah, really cool.

• 38:22Speaker 03

  It's fantastic.

• 38:23Jason Bateman?

  Yeah.

• 38:23Will Arnett?

  Uh, um, Jason, you, you, you touched on it, but actually I always think I get stressed out when I would watch ER and see all these actors spitting out all these medical terms. And like, and really quickly and really offhand and delivered so brilliantly in these long things. And I think like, fuck, man, I would be so stressed out.

• 38:43Sean Hayes?

  Yeah.

• 38:44Will Arnett?

  Trying to remember that, trying to get it right. Did you ever have those moments?

• 38:47Jason Bateman?

  You'd be terrible at it.

• 38:48Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 38:48Jason Bateman?

  No, you'd be good at it.

• 38:50Speaker 03

  But we did a lot of oners back then too. So it was, if you were at the end of the oner with some kind of medical terminology.

• 38:56Jason Bateman?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 38:57Speaker 03

  Oof, that was like three minutes of like a shot going through. I mean, the whole set was already pre-lit.

• 39:01Will Arnett?

  And then it gets to you.

• 39:02Speaker 03

  And then it gets to you and you're like, menage a cockle, no monia, and you say it wrong, you're, you just ruin the whole thing.

• 39:08Sean Hayes?

  Yeah, that's life's struggle.

• 39:09Speaker 03

  So, but it was fun. It was really fun. And we did a lot of oners, so it felt sort of like theater in that way. So it was really, it was great. We had so much fun.

• 39:18Sean Hayes?

  Are you good with line, with memorizing lines like that? Like, just in general?

• 39:23Speaker 03

  Sometimes. The hard part about, I will say, the hard part about that show specifically, because it's medical, was there's sort of like, I had never, you know, people come up to you as an actor, like, how do you memorize all those lines? And you're like, oh, I just do it. Like, you don't really, it's not the thing you think about first, right?

• 39:37Sean Hayes?

  Yeah.

• 39:39Speaker 03

  That was the first time I thought, oh, how do I do this? Because it is, there are numbers that are seem arbitrary to me. Somebody's blood pressure, memorizing, you know, whatever that is. I don't even realize what's a good or bad blood pressure, really. But to those numbers, that counts. The, the choreography counts and it's really specific. So there's like sort of different levels of memorization on a medical show that I didn't realize that was a thing. There's choreography, there's sort of like numbers that make, that have no emotional connection to remembering anything. And then.

• 40:11Will Arnett?

  Did they have medical experts right there with whomever was directing that particular episode to me?

• 40:15Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah.

• 40:15Will Arnett?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 40:16Speaker 03

  Which I'm a little bit of a hypochondriac, so those poor guys had to hear about everything I ever had. I was like, what is this? Is this, what is this spot?

• 40:23Jason Bateman?

  Um, just touching on DTF really quickly again, how about learning those lines? Was that, was that difficult for you? Because Steve writes in such a beautifully specific way. You kind of, you want to honor that and you don't want to mangle it up. Like, I know David and I, you know, running lines together, all the scenes he and I had together. You know, just run it and run it and run it and try to, try to get as specific as we could. You?

• 40:44Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah. Remember, we would look at each other and be like, I have an eight pager tomorrow.

• 40:47Jason Bateman?

  No, I know.

• 40:48Speaker 03

  Um, which typically shouldn't be that much, but because the way he writes, I mean, the, I think the thing about it, like even listening to you and watching you in it, Jason, it looks so. It looks so normal and like you're just in conversation and it goes back and forward and pauses and going to an idea and then jumping to another idea, but that's all written. None of that is improvised.

• 41:09Sean Hayes?

  Yeah, that's what I asked Jason.

• 41:11Jason Bateman?

  Yeah, that's the way he writes. Like usually we as actors are just looking at a block of dialogue and it's up to us to put in the ellipses and find the rhythm changes, et cetera, et cetera. Steve actually writes those in just based on punctuation and just structure and whatnot. And so that's, you sort of have to kind of back into that to some extent. And it's a different, it's a different way to work and it was super challenging for me at the start, but I really kind of got into a rhythm with it. And you know, the reason I'm asking you is because yeah, we were in a ton of scenes together, but our scenes didn't have all these long dialogue scenes. We had one, I think, that had a really long speech, I think I had to give.

• 41:55Speaker 03

  Yeah, you had that one about Canada.

• 41:57Jason Bateman?

  Right. Most of your long stuff was with, was with Richard and Joy, right? And with David. But anyway, yours, yours obviously was just seamless.

• 42:07Speaker 03

  We had a couple in the bedroom where I'm talking about insurance.

• 42:10Jason Bateman?

  Yeah, that's true. That's true. Yeah.

• 42:12Sean Hayes?

  Yeah. I don't remember those bedroom scenes at all. I'm kidding.

• 42:16Jason Bateman?

  I know. So, all right.

• 42:18Speaker 03

  But no, it's great. It's juicy, the way he writes. I mean, I think because he's a musician, it almost feels like music in a way. And if you talk to Steve for two seconds, it just seems, you just hear the rhythm. I remember meeting him in the first meeting and thinking, oh, that's what the rhythm is because I could listen to the way he spoke.

• 42:37Jason Bateman?

  And a halting.

• 42:38Speaker 03

  It is in his voice in some ways.

• 42:40Sean Hayes?

  Did you read for it? Was it an offer to you or like how did you?

• 42:42Speaker 03

  No, I auditioned.

• 42:43Sean Hayes?

  You auditioned, yeah.

• 42:44Speaker 03

  I flew myself to New York and I auditioned.

• 42:47Jason Bateman?

  It's pretty cool. It's a great, great story. Yeah. It's a really great story.

• 42:51Will Arnett?

  It'd be pretty funny if Steve Conrad, when he spoke, he said all the punctuation out loud. He was that specific.

• 42:57Sean Hayes?

  Yeah.

• 42:57Will Arnett?

  Blah, blah, blah, blah, period. Ellipses. On the other hand, comma, space. I was...

• 43:04Sean Hayes?

  New paragraph. Yeah.

• 43:07Jason Bateman?

  We'll be right back.

• 43:10Sean Hayes?

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• 46:46Sean Hayes?

  And back to the show.

• 46:49Jason Bateman?

  All right. So then Brokeback Mountain happens before or after Mad Men?

• 46:54Will Arnett?

  What year, Sean?

• 46:56Sean Hayes?

  That was, I'll tell you right now, it was, I'll tell you right now, it was 2005 or '06.

• 47:00Will Arnett?

  Okay. We'll have our fact checker.

• 47:02Speaker 03

  I was doing ER when I did that.

• 47:04Jason Bateman?

  While you were doing Brokeback?

• 47:05Sean Hayes?

  Am I right with the year, Linda? Do you remember what year?

• 47:08Speaker 03

  I mean, you would know better than I do.

• 47:10Jason Bateman?

  No, Willie knows, I'll bet you.

• 47:11Sean Hayes?

  I'll look it up.

• 47:12Jason Bateman?

  Then when was, when was Mad Men?

• 47:14Speaker 03

  Mad Men was, I think around 2012 because I just had a baby.

• 47:18Will Arnett?

  Oh, Linda, you were, you were great on Mad Men. You were so good on Mad Men. I loved that. Yeah.

• 47:26Jason Bateman?

  Despite getting over the hurdle of working with Jon Hamm, how did you, how did you navigate?

• 47:30Will Arnett?

  How did you do that? How'd you deal with the ham sandwich every day?

• 47:34Speaker 03

  He directed too. It was great.

• 47:35Jason Bateman?

  Oh, Jesus.

• 47:37Will Arnett?

  Christ.

• 47:39Jason Bateman?

  But boy, did you power through that. Look at you. Huh? You landed on your feet. You land on your feet, you go right into The Avengers. Sean, Sean comments.

• 47:51Sean Hayes?

  Yeah. I don't know The Avengers as well, but Scotty does. Scotty!

• 47:57Jason Bateman?

  What was that like? Like getting, getting a call for that? I don't know. I would be like stunned if I was invited to be a part of a Marvel film.

• 48:08Sean Hayes?

  Yeah, that's huge.

• 48:10Speaker 03

  It was fun. And especially because I show up and I'm in there with everybody. She's like a secret character. Then she, they come to her house and so it's all The Avengers are there. So it's kind of nice because sometimes when you come into something, that's a big production with a lot of different people. You only work with one or two people. But every time I went there, I was in with everybody. So it's, that's pretty fun.

• 48:30Jason Bateman?

  And did you have to deal with those goddamn Russos on that one?

• 48:33Speaker 03

  Yeah, they were great. They were great.

• 48:35Sean Hayes?

  Nightmare.

• 48:35Jason Bateman?

  I mean, was it the people you have managed to?

• 48:38Will Arnett?

  Christ. Joe and Ant. Joe and Ant.

• 48:42Jason Bateman?

  Joe and Ant. All right. And then, and then we go to Bloodline. Yes?

• 48:47Speaker 03

  Maybe. I mean, I don't know the Chrono. It's all a big...

• 48:50Will Arnett?

  I think Avengers was after Bloodline.

• 48:52Jason Bateman?

  Really?

• 48:52Will Arnett?

  Also a great one.

• 48:54Jason Bateman?

  Yeah. I mean, well, talk, talk a little bit about working with that cast. Kyle Chandler, Ben Mendelsohn, Stacey Spacek, Sam Shepard. What was?

• 49:01Will Arnett?

  Sick cast.

• 49:02Jason Bateman?

  Yeah.

• 49:03Speaker 03

  It's unreal. Like it just was, every time someone else got cast, you're like, oh, this is amazing. I can't wait to get out there.

• 49:08Will Arnett?

  Can I just tell you something? I was going to say, can I just say, I love that Kyle Chandler.

• 49:13Jason Bateman?

  Yeah.

• 49:13Speaker 03

  Who doesn't? Everybody. Men, women, children, they all love him.

• 49:17Will Arnett?

  I love that dude.

• 49:17Jason Bateman?

  Reunited with the great Chris Mundy on, on Lanterns. You watching Lanterns, Willie?

• 49:21Will Arnett?

  I'm not.

• 49:23Jason Bateman?

  Get on it. Get on it.

• 49:24Will Arnett?

  I gotta get on it. Yeah, this guy, James Hawes directed that, who I'm working with now.

• 49:30Jason Bateman?

  That's doing very, very well.

• 49:31Will Arnett?

  I heard it's great. I heard it's great.

• 49:32Speaker 03

  Kyle's always good. He's so good.

• 49:34Jason Bateman?

  Yeah, he is. He is an incredible, and talk about a nice guy.

• 49:37Will Arnett?

  Yeah, I caught you. Yeah.

• 49:38Jason Bateman?

  Okay. And then?

• 49:39Will Arnett?

  He's like a rich, he's like a rich man's Jason Bateman. You know what I mean?

• 49:45Will Arnett?

  You know what I mean?

• 49:46Sean Hayes?

  Yeah.

• 49:47Will Arnett?

  Sorry, anyway, Linda, so Linda. That's a fact.

• 49:52Speaker 03

  One time, my daughter, we were in Florida, we were shooting that, and we were on a boat, and my daughter had this wand, and she accidentally dropped it, she was tiny, she dropped it into the ocean. And Kyle jumped into the ocean, swam, and retrieved it for her. And I had never seen, I was like, that is the hero worship that everybody has for her.

• 50:13Sean Hayes?

  That's amazing.

• 50:14Jason Bateman?

  Would you, would you guys ever do that?

• 50:17Jason Bateman?

  Would you think to take your shoes off before you do that? Because that's the key.

• 50:21Will Arnett?

  Jason, you're already thinking about taking your shoes off.

• 50:25Jason Bateman?

  That's how you sink. If you don't take your shoes off, jumping into the water, you can't stay afloat. I'm telling you, I'll bet, but I bet you Kyle kicked through that.

• 50:33Sean Hayes?

  Especially in the ocean.

• 50:34Will Arnett?

  He could do whatever he wants.

• 50:35Speaker 03

  He was, of course, already swimming and fishing and doing stuff.

• 50:39Will Arnett?

  He wasn't in a tuxedo, you know, but, but remember he was on that, his first big thing was, uh, Early Edition.

• 50:48Jason Bateman?

  Oh.

• 50:48Will Arnett?

  It was a CBS show where he'd get the newspaper the day before, and he knew what was gonna happen the day before.

• 50:53Jason Bateman?

  Yeah, bet on the ponies.

• 50:54Will Arnett?

  Yeah.

• 50:54Speaker 03

  Bring that back, it's a good idea.

• 50:56Jason Bateman?

  All right, so then we go across the street with Christina Applegate over to Dead to Me, right?

• 51:01Speaker 03

  Dead to Me.

• 51:01Jason Bateman?

  Dead to Me.

• 51:02Will Arnett?

  You're dead to me.

• 51:03Jason Bateman?

  A great show, went, went on for years, uh, great accolades, a great audience.

• 51:10Will Arnett?

  With her old friend Christina Applegate.

• 51:12Jason Bateman?

  Great Christina Applegate.

• 51:13Will Arnett?

  Yeah, great Christina.

• 51:14Jason Bateman?

  Um, so, I mean, at this point, are you thinking, do you have any, any time to sort of pat yourself on the back and look back at that moment where, you know, hey, I was this little girl doing, uh, what, what, what was the musical theater show, Shawnee? She was doing at 11?

• 51:30Sean Hayes?

  Yeah, uh, Sweet Charity.

• 51:32Jason Bateman?

  Sweet Charity, I'm the girl that did Sweet Charity, and now I'm on, uh, job number X.

• 51:38Sean Hayes?

  Oh, you? I thought you meant the one that Linda was on.

• 51:41Speaker 03

  Yeah, Christina Sweet Charity.

• 51:42Sean Hayes?

  No, she was on, no, Linda was Bye Bye Birdie.

• 51:44Speaker 03

  No, Music Man.

• 51:44Sean Hayes?

  Oh, no, no, sorry, Music Man, sorry.

• 51:46Jason Bateman?

  Yes, Music Man. And you're thinking back.

• 51:49Will Arnett?

  Wait, what the fuck is happening?

• 51:52Jason Bateman?

  You know, it seems like just yesterday.

• 51:54Speaker 03

  I love that you guys are pretending you were there when I was 11, watching it in the audience.

• 51:58Will Arnett?

  What is going on?

• 51:59Jason Bateman?

  I mean, it did, uh, do you have any time to look back to the, the, remember walking down the Pacific Coast Highway with that backpack on?

• 52:07Speaker 03

  Yeah, right.

• 52:07Jason Bateman?

  Going down to Los Angeles, trying to make it big, like, you done good, Linda.

• 52:11Sean Hayes?

  Yeah.

• 52:12Speaker 03

  I really did literally rip one of those things off of a telephone pole, you know, those phone number things, where it's like, be an extra. I really literally did that when I came to LA.

• 52:20Sean Hayes?

  What, what, what were you in an extra in, anything big?

• 52:23Speaker 03

  Oh my God, you guys, I was an extra in, I didn't know what, like, union or non-union meant, and I was a teenager still, and I was maybe 17, 18, just got here, and, probably 18, and I was an extra in a movie that turned out to be kind of, um, one of those movies where everybody takes their clothes off, but I didn't know, and it was like a late-night cable kind of thing, where women were in jail, and they got sold into prostitution.

• 52:50Jason Bateman?

  I bet Will seen it.

• 52:51Speaker 03

  And then, um, but I didn't realize, so I showed up at the jail by myself in downtown LA, like some closed-down part of it, and was an extra, and there was like 40 girls my age there, and we were in these short little shirts, and we had to sit in this jail cell for 12 hours, but there was like no food, no real heat, it wasn't, you know, it wasn't like a union job, so they didn't really take great care of you.

• 53:15Jason Bateman?

  Lots of moisturizer.

• 53:16Speaker 03

  Yeah, no, it wasn't that bad, it wasn't that bad, it was like.

• 53:20Sean Hayes?

  Right.

• 53:20Speaker 03

  On the road to that, but not that.

• 53:22Sean Hayes?

  All right, so that was an extra, you were an extra in that.

• 53:23Speaker 03

  So anyways, yes, I do sometimes think about, I'm happy I didn't have to keep ripping those things off the telephone pole.

• 53:30Jason Bateman?

  Yeah, you're killing it, you're fresh off the stage at the Emmys. Now you got this new show coming on, an 824 show on Peacock called Crystal Lake, it's a prequel to the Friday the 13th. Yeah, she plays Pamela Voorhees.

• 53:43Sean Hayes?

  Ooh, I can't wait to see that.

• 53:44Jason Bateman?

  Yeah, tell us about that.

• 53:45Will Arnett?

  Wait, wait, wait, what?

• 53:46Jason Bateman?

  Yeah, yeah, man.

• 53:47Sean Hayes?

  Crystal Lake, Friday the 13th, remember Friday the 13th?

• 53:49Jason Bateman?

  Prequel, prequel.

• 53:50Speaker 03

  The mother's the original killer, the whole first movie.

• 53:53Sean Hayes?

  Wait, you don't play the mother?

• 53:54Speaker 03

  Sort of operates like a whodunit, I do.

• 53:55Sean Hayes?

  You play the mother with?

• 53:56Speaker 03

  Remember in the first one, when Betsy Palmer comes out, and she's like, you and my son, so that's, yeah, mhm, so it's a backstory to Pamela Voorhees.

• 54:05Sean Hayes?

  Pamela.

• 54:06Speaker 03

  Which then, of course, is, you know, it's Jason's story, everything's about Jason, so it's his story, but it's, uh, seen through her.

• 54:12Jason Bateman?

  Yeah, um, reminds me of, uh, for any of the listeners that haven't heard this story, my, uh, my, my most cringey slash most proud Halloween costume I ever put together was Jason Bateman, whereby I put a hockey goalie mask on my face, and then hung a net over my body and tied fishing lures to it for the Bateman part.

• 54:32Sean Hayes?

  Uh-huh, that's, this is great.

• 54:34Jason Bateman?

  And I was, uh, I was just so excited to tell everyone on, on Halloween, what, hey, guess what my costume is?

• 54:41Speaker 03

  We need like the Legs Avenue version of that, where it's sexy.

• 54:43Will Arnett?

  Oh, God, with a pocketful of white, making runs to the bathroom stalls.

• 54:48Jason Bateman?

  Sure, yeah.

• 54:49Sean Hayes?

  Is that the hockey mask?

• 54:50Jason Bateman?

  Guess what I am? It's the fucking worst.

• 54:53Will Arnett?

  Crystal Lake, when's Crystal Lake coming out? I'm excited, is it out now?

• 54:57Jason Bateman?

  Yeah, it's, it's already out, because that, today's November 2nd.

• 55:00Will Arnett?

  Right.

• 55:00Speaker 03

  Oh, right, yes.

• 55:01Jason Bateman?

  Come on, you're so good with dates, Willie, come on.

• 55:02Will Arnett?

  Yeah.

• 55:03Jason Bateman?

  Um, now, are you a fan of horror, and if you weren't, are you now?

• 55:08Speaker 03

  I used to love horror, I mean, I really loved it.

• 55:11Jason Bateman?

  Then what happened?

• 55:12Will Arnett?

  Horror, right? Is that what we're saying?

• 55:13Speaker 03

  Then I think I got scared of life, and then I was a little less, uh, a horror lover. No, um, I, I liked it a lot growing up, like, it was really some of my favorite stuff.

• 55:25Jason Bateman?

  She probably went and saw Friday the 13th when it was out.

• 55:27Speaker 03

  Yes, yes, and I, I remember seeing Freddy versus Jason in the movie theater, Universal City Walk, and it was wild.

• 55:33Sean Hayes?

  But what about, what about working, what about, you probably saw Carrie, I just watched Carrie the first time in a long time, and then you worked with Sissy Spacek, I mean, wasn't that wild?

• 55:42Speaker 03

  She is, number one, she is the nicest, most wonderful human being.

• 55:45Jason Bateman?

  And she loves questions about Carrie, I'll bet.

• 55:48Speaker 03

  Oh, she's so good, that performance is so, I mean, she's just, she's just the best, I can't say enough amazing things about Sissy Spacek, I love her so much, and I think she is exquisite.

• 56:00Sean Hayes?

  Wait, tell me some more horror things you love.

• 56:03Speaker 03

  Um, I loved The Shining.

• 56:04Sean Hayes?

  Love The Shining.

• 56:05Jason Bateman?

  Shining's incredible.

• 56:06Will Arnett?

  Oh, yeah.

• 56:07Speaker 03

  I used to watch that to like, kind of like unwind, and now I'm, I don't know how I did that.

• 56:11Sean Hayes?

  Yeah, did you ever see the outtakes, or the, like, the making of behind the scenes of The Shining?

• 56:15Speaker 03

  Some of it, yes.

• 56:16Jason Bateman?

  I want to see that.

• 56:17Sean Hayes?

  Interesting, really? Oh, it's fascinating, with Shelley Dumas.

• 56:19Jason Bateman?

  Is it on Netflix?

• 56:20Sean Hayes?

  No, I don't know, uh, I don't know, you've probably got to see it on YouTube.

• 56:23Jason Bateman?

  Yeah, I guess they just put it in the old search thing, right? It'll tell me where it is, right?

• 56:27Sean Hayes?

  Yeah.

• 56:27Jason Bateman?

  An old granddad over here needs help. All right, now, so you, uh, so you jump, you jump over another hurdle in your upcoming, uh, show called Way of the Warrior Kid, that Chris Pratt.

• 56:39Speaker 03

  What hurdle is that?

• 56:40Jason Bateman?

  Yeah, that Chris Pratt, um, how did you, how do you do something like that? That, that seems like maybe the toughest.

• 56:47Sean Hayes?

  No.

• 56:49Speaker 03

  I know him from a while back, and then we were in Guardians of the Galaxy, he, I play like a character in the third one, so we've known each other a little, but it was fun.

• 56:57Jason Bateman?

  Now, that's coming up on Apple TV, tell us about Way of the Warrior Kid.

• 57:01Speaker 03

  Way of the Warrior Kid is this book written, uh, by Jaco Wilig, about sort of this kid getting bullied, and his uncle, who's a Navy SEAL, sort of helps him with these, like, tenants that they learn as, as SEALs, and sort of gets him through feeling bullied, and, uh, this kid who I play, played by Jude Hill, who's such a great actor, um, and I play his mom, and kind of Chris's quirky little, like, sister, so.

• 57:26Jason Bateman?

  Where'd you shoot that?

• 57:28Speaker 03

  Uh, we shot that in LA, I think, yeah, LA.

• 57:32Jason Bateman?

  Oh, lucky you. Do you, do you think about that? Do you think about locations when you, when you pick a job?

• 57:36Speaker 03

  I do, a lot, yeah.

• 57:37Jason Bateman?

  Yeah. How are you, how are you doing with fame? Like, you know, um, you know, I'm sure you get stopped, have been getting stopped for years on the, on the, on the road, but it's, it's, it's happening probably even more and more and more, and, um, are you comfortable with that? Is your family comfortable with that? Um, or do you kind of keep a pretty low profile?

• 57:56Speaker 03

  I am a low-profile kind of person in general, like, that's probably why I don't, like, I, I don't go out tons, I, you know, I'm sort of, um.

• 58:05Jason Bateman?

  Yeah, you like to nest.

• 58:06Speaker 03

  That's me, you know, but, uh.

• 58:09Jason Bateman?

  I like to nest.

• 58:09Speaker 03

  I, yes, I mean, I, I, I did, I definitely get noticed at times, and that is, people are generally pretty generous and kind.

• 58:19Sean Hayes?

  Nice, yeah, nobody's gonna walk up to you and go, I hate your work.

• 58:22Speaker 03

  Well, you know, you never know, but, uh, or like, oh, you look this, you look more this on camera, which is like, sometimes is that a?

• 58:30Jason Bateman?

  Yeah, Sean would probably say, boy, you look so much bigger on camera.

• 58:33Speaker 03

  Yeah, like, something like that, you know, you're like, oh, uh, but, you know, I've been very lucky, I've done a lot of things that, uh, people have liked over the years, so they're kind about them, you know, especially now, it's, it's a funny thing, though, because back when I did, let's say, Scooby Doo.

• 58:50Jason Bateman?

  Yeah.

• 58:51Sean Hayes?

  Yeah.

• 58:52Speaker 03

  The recognition, even though the movie had a big, the, I was sort of costumed, and I could stand right next to the poster, and nobody paid attention, right? And it was really great, and, and meanwhile, like, you know, I, I sort of just, I kind of go under the radar, which I love, because I just like that, but now, those kids have grown up, and they've seen me so much, that I get recognized more for that now than I did back then.

• 59:16Sean Hayes?

  Sure.

• 59:16Speaker 03

  But the recognition is interesting, it ebbs and it flows, and it's, it's, I have a pretty, um, I have a, I have a, really the best of both worlds.

• 59:24Jason Bateman?

  Do you ever get recognized for freaks and geeks? You know, because like, I wonder, like, you know, you look at, like, Seth and Jason on that, like, you can't really, and, I mean, James Franco kind of looks the same, but, uh, but like Seth and Jason, like, and, and you.

• 59:38Sean Hayes?

  Different people.

• 59:38Jason Bateman?

  Yeah, it's, it's pretty amazing.

• 59:40Sean Hayes?

  Yeah.

• 59:41Jason Bateman?

  Seth is completely unrecognizable.

• 59:43Speaker 03

  Well, he was only 17, he was a kid.

• 59:45Jason Bateman?

  God, isn't that amazing?

• 59:46Sean Hayes?

  What are you doing on sets? Because you work, what a career you've had, by the way, just incredible.

• 59:51Jason Bateman?

  And kind of just getting started, it seems.

• 59:54Sean Hayes?

  Yeah, and what are you doing in your trailer in, like, to kill the time? Do you like knit? Like, a lot of people I know, like, take something to do, you know, because there's so many hours.

• 1:00:04Jason Bateman?

  Yeah, what's the sneaky little, um, what are you, are you like a closet crossword, um, fiend?

• 1:00:09Speaker 03

  I like a Wordle, you and David and I are on our Wordle.

• 1:00:12Jason Bateman?

  Exactly.

• 1:00:13Speaker 03

  Thing, um, I, um.

• 1:00:16Speaker 03

  I don't know, I like people. I'll just sit and talk to people. That's really kind of my thing.

• 1:00:20Sean Hayes?

  Oh, that's, oh, good, good.

• 1:00:20Speaker 03

  Like, I could, I need better hobbies, but, uh...

• 1:00:23Jason Bateman?

  Wait, so what, you'll just walk up on a stranger and ask them, uh, "Hey, that's a fun sweatshirt. Tell me about that."

• 1:00:29Speaker 03

  Sometimes, sure.

• 1:00:30Jason Bateman?

  Really?

• 1:00:31Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:00:32Jason Bateman?

  Uh-huh?

• 1:00:32Speaker 03

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:00:33Sean Hayes?

  Yeah, why not?

• 1:00:34Jason Bateman?

  Why not?

• 1:00:35Speaker 03

  I like people, like, I really do.

• 1:00:36Sean Hayes?

  I do, too.

• 1:00:37Jason Bateman?

  Which, which means you like playing them, right? Do you like?

• 1:00:40Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:00:40Jason Bateman?

  Are you playing other people or are you playing versions of yourself? We've talked to actors about this before, like, what, I don't want to get into, like, a boring process conversation, but do you, do you like, what do you, if I were to say, you had to go pick between two reasons why you like acting, you playing other people or playing versions of yourself and exploring kind of the, the, the borders of, of, of who Linda is to you?

• 1:01:03Speaker 03

  Other people.

• 1:01:04Jason Bateman?

  Other people, right, morphing into...

• 1:01:05Speaker 03

  I mean, which inevitably has yourself in it because you're only yourself, but, uh, but hopefully, which is sort of what I tried to do, is just try to play as many different versions or people of my, I can.

• 1:01:17Sean Hayes?

  Well, yeah, and, and on DTF, just like, just watching the whole thing and being blown away, and watching you, like, wow, just as the character, I'm like, whoa, she's rough. You know, man, you know, it's not a very likeable character at first, and then, and then you completely feel for you.

• 1:01:35Jason Bateman?

  Yeah, you realize why she's being like that.

• 1:01:37Sean Hayes?

  Yeah, I mean, it's, it's so well done.

• 1:01:39Jason Bateman?

  Well, she had to do it that way because you had to be communicating a little bit of a mislead about, um, being a murderer, like, there had to be my character the same way, like, they had to be just odd enough where you would buy them as the possible killer.

• 1:01:54Sean Hayes?

  Right, right.

• 1:01:55Will Arnett?

  I love the Empire outfit, uh, thing, I thought that was great. Would you, um, please tell us your experience, because we've heard from Jason, the first scene that you guys shot together on DTF.

• 1:02:07Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 1:02:07Jason Bateman?

  Where we met.

• 1:02:08Will Arnett?

  The first scene.

• 1:02:09Sean Hayes?

  That was the first one.

• 1:02:10Will Arnett?

  Yes.

• 1:02:11Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:02:11Sean Hayes?

  I'm bad, having sex.

• 1:02:13Will Arnett?

  Can we just hear your perspective, walking into shooting that, too?

• 1:02:15Jason Bateman?

  Yeah, tell, tell, tell them how we met.

• 1:02:18Speaker 03

  Okay, well, reading the script, everybody was like, oh, God, how are you gonna do that, because I have to, there's a thing called weight placement.

• 1:02:26Jason Bateman?

  Do what? What scene are you talking about?

• 1:02:28Speaker 03

  Weight placement, which is a thing that people like, which, when I first read it, I did not know weight placement was something that people did with their underwear on. So that was kind of a relief when I figured that out.

• 1:02:37Sean Hayes?

  Okay.

• 1:02:37Speaker 03

  Um, because I thought, okay, well, at least I'll be wearing something.

• 1:02:42Sean Hayes?

  Okay.

• 1:02:42Speaker 03

  Um, but yeah, weight placement is where I put some weight, uh, and sit on Jason's face, and that was supposed to be much later in the schedule, and I had been like, I'm gonna train, and I'm gonna tan, I'm gonna do all these, I'm gonna eat right, because that's finally when I start to do it, once I, once I get the job, I'm in between, I'm like, not doing what I'm supposed to be doing, and then, what's it gonna be like, oh, God, I'll do it now.

• 1:03:06Jason Bateman?

  And plus, we'll know each other, it'll be super giggly and fun and comfortable.

• 1:03:10Speaker 03

  We'll talk about it.

• 1:03:11Jason Bateman?

  Sure.

• 1:03:12Speaker 03

  And, uh, and then the schedule changed, and it came up right away. It was the very first scene that we really shot together, so...

• 1:03:18Jason Bateman?

  The very first scene we ever did.

• 1:03:20Sean Hayes?

  And you didn't know each other.

• 1:03:21Speaker 03

  First thing in the morning.

• 1:03:22Jason Bateman?

  Well, we, we had met in the parking garage of the, of the apartment building we were both staying in in Atlanta, what, a couple of days before that?

• 1:03:28Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 1:03:29Jason Bateman?

  That was it.

• 1:03:30Sean Hayes?

  And then she said, "See you tomorrow," when you said, when I said, "on your face."

• 1:03:32Jason Bateman?

  Yeah, basically, yeah. And then, yeah, first thing in the morning, um, "Hey, so, good to see you again."

• 1:03:39Speaker 03

  Hey, take a seat.

• 1:03:39Jason Bateman?

  Yeah, just met you a couple of days ago, and, um, she was, she was incredibly, you know, I was incredibly nervous, I'm sure she was, too, the, the intimacy coordinator was fantastic, Steve was really cool, and it was surprisingly, I guess not surprisingly, most, most intimacy scenes, although I haven't done a bunch, but the ones I have, they're pretty, uh, you know...

• 1:04:02Sean Hayes?

  Mechanical.

• 1:04:03Jason Bateman?

  Kind of mechanical, exactly, like, you have to kind of hit this mark, and you have to kind of say this line here, and watch out for shadowing here, and all that, like, it's, um...

• 1:04:10Will Arnett?

  Amanda has said that, she's said it's very mechanical. She says it's very, that was the exact word she used.

• 1:04:18Will Arnett?

  It's funny you should say, yeah.

• 1:04:19Sean Hayes?

  It's very mechanical, and, and afterwards, she always goes, "Cut."

• 1:04:22Jason Bateman?

  And cut, yeah.

• 1:04:24Sean Hayes?

  And cut.

• 1:04:24Jason Bateman?

  And I say, uh, "Should we check playback, or just move on?"

• 1:04:28Speaker 03

  Yeah, it was, I was happy because both of us are a little bit germaphobe.

• 1:04:31Jason Bateman?

  Yeah.

• 1:04:32Speaker 03

  And so that was a comfort.

• 1:04:34Jason Bateman?

  Yes, exactly.

• 1:04:35Speaker 03

  That was a comfort.

• 1:04:36Will Arnett?

  Because you knew he was clean, you knew he was clean.

• 1:04:37Speaker 03

  We're both addicted to breath strips.

• 1:04:39Jason Bateman?

  Oh, my God, yes.

• 1:04:40Speaker 03

  So that was all, the whole shoot, we were addicted to breath strips.

• 1:04:44Sean Hayes?

  Yeah.

• 1:04:45Speaker 03

  We both are like...

• 1:04:46Jason Bateman?

  Although we never kissed.

• 1:04:48Speaker 03

  No, no, no. The only people who ever kissed in that show is David and Peter Siskel.

• 1:04:52Sean Hayes?

  That was part of Jason's negotiation for doing the show.

• 1:04:55Speaker 03

  I heard that.

• 1:04:56Jason Bateman?

  But, right, it's like, people think, oh, this is gonna be a real salacious show, it's like, yeah, there's not really that much sex, and not even kissing, and even the sex that we do is just like so weird and kink, that it's kind of funny and off-putting, and it's not, it's not salacious at all, it's just another kind of, another one of the sort of subversive kind of elements of it that, um, was just so surprising, anyway.

• 1:05:20Sean Hayes?

  Well, if anybody hasn't seen it, they have to see it, now it's an Emmy-winning performance, uh, that you, that people have to see.

• 1:05:25Jason Bateman?

  Check it out, Arnett, it's, uh, it's pretty, it's a good watch, man.

• 1:05:29Sean Hayes?

  It's really good.

• 1:05:30Jason Bateman?

  It's not bad. Um, well, Linda, god damn it, you're the best, I'm so excited I get to see you in a couple of days.

• 1:05:38Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 1:05:38Jason Bateman?

  And then no doubt see you again, hopefully, fingers crossed.

• 1:05:41Will Arnett?

  Is that, is that for, are you guys doing DTF Minneapolis? What's happening?

• 1:05:45Jason Bateman?

  That's DTF Minneapolis. We all get in a bus and go there.

• 1:05:48Speaker 03

  I wish, I would do that show a million times over, it was so fun.

• 1:05:51Jason Bateman?

  I know it, I know it.

• 1:05:52Speaker 03

  It was one of those things where it's like, the show was so great to do with everybody, that the fact that it's also getting the recognition it's getting is beautiful.

• 1:06:00Will Arnett?

  It feels nice.

• 1:06:01Speaker 03

  It feels very good.

• 1:06:02Sean Hayes?

  Good.

• 1:06:02Speaker 03

  But also, um, I'm gonna go have some soup, I heard you guys talking about soup.

• 1:06:07Jason Bateman?

  Go get some sauce, um, enjoy that incredible family of yours, um, and we are looking forward to seeing you coming up...

• 1:06:14Sean Hayes?

  I can't wait.

• 1:06:15Jason Bateman?

  On Crystal Lake and Way of the Warrior Kid, I'm looking forward to seeing you at the fancy thing the other, uh, in a couple of nights, um...

• 1:06:23Speaker 03

  Yes, we'll eat snacks again in the front row.

• 1:06:25Jason Bateman?

  Yeah, love you so much, and thank you for doing this.

• 1:06:28Speaker 03

  Love you guys, thanks for having me here.

• 1:06:29Sean Hayes?

  So nice to meet you, Linda.

• 1:06:30Speaker 03

  Love you guys, and I just met you, love you.

• 1:06:31Sean Hayes?

  Yes, likewise.

• 1:06:32Will Arnett?

  We love you, too. We love you, too.

• 1:06:34Jason Bateman?

  Linda.

• 1:06:34Speaker 03

  Thanks, you guys, take care.

• 1:06:35Will Arnett?

  Thank you.

• 1:06:36Jason Bateman?

  Have a great day, bye, bye-bye.

• 1:06:40Jason Bateman?

  That's Linda Cardellini.

• 1:06:41Will Arnett?

  Linda Cardellini.

• 1:06:42Jason Bateman?

  Linda Cardellini.

• 1:06:44Sean Hayes?

  She's one of those actresses that, like, like, literally, chameleon, and you were naming all the things, I was like, oh, yeah, that's right, oh, that's right, oh, that's right, oh, my gosh.

• 1:06:52Will Arnett?

  She can do anything.

• 1:06:52Sean Hayes?

  And all of those things.

• 1:06:53Jason Bateman?

  And she's been on a lot of the stuff that you love, for a long time.

• 1:06:57Sean Hayes?

  For a long time.

• 1:06:58Will Arnett?

  TV shows and movies and things and big, like, uh, you know, like, the Avengers-type stuff, and then, like, cool, just like, everything.

• 1:07:05Sean Hayes?

  Yeah.

• 1:07:05Will Arnett?

  Every sort of...

• 1:07:06Jason Bateman?

  What if she, what if she, what if she, if she was on Star Wars, Sean, would you have, um, would you be, that, that, that would be something, then, then she'd have your respect.

• 1:07:14Will Arnett?

  Would she, would she be part of the Rebel Alliance, what do you think?

• 1:07:17Sean Hayes?

  Of course, she's too nice. She, I, I, I wonder if, uh, no, but like, I'm, I'm a, an Avengers fan, but I'm not like a massive fanatic, you know, like, I am Star Wars.

• 1:07:26Jason Bateman?

  Like a blow dart just came in from the right side of frame from Scotty, right into his neck.

• 1:07:31Sean Hayes?

  Yeah, exactly.

• 1:07:31Jason Bateman?

  You son of a bitch.

• 1:07:32Sean Hayes?

  Yeah, no, but, um, but she's been in all, all these, those great things, especially that sitcom you mentioned with Suzanne Somers, what was it called?

• 1:07:39Jason Bateman?

  Oh, the Pat Duffy vehicles, Step by Step?

• 1:07:42Sean Hayes?

  What is it called?

• 1:07:43Jason Bateman?

  Step by Step.

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