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'Super' El Niño is coming. What should you expect?

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This episode explores the onset of a record-breaking, super-charged El Niño event and investigates whether human-driven climate change is making these cycles more intense. The host and climate scientist Julia Cole discuss how her recent study using geochemical records from long-lived corals in the Galapagos Islands reveals that El Niño variability over the last forty to fifty years is thirty-six percent higher than in the pre-industrial period. They explain how these intensifying climate patterns amplify global risks like extreme floods, droughts, wildfires, and record global temperatures, leaving ecosystems and human communities with less time to recover between severe events.

  • Check local community vulnerabilities and clear out culverts or fire-harden homes depending on whether your area faces floods or wildfires. 12:32
  • Understand that strong El Niño events supercharge global temperatures and increase the frequency of extreme climate hazards worldwide. 11:11
  • Look to geochemical records preserved in long-lived corals to study historical ocean temperatures and long-term climate trends. 6:10

Chapters

  1. 0:00
    Episode Introduction and Context

    Hosts set the stage for a discussion about the unprecedented El Niño event.

  2. 0:52
    El Niño’s Current Strength and Future Outlook

    Julia notes the El Niño is still strengthening and likely to break records.

  3. 2:09
    Human Impact on El Niño: The Big Question

    The hosts ask whether human activity is intensifying El Niño.

  4. 6:10
    Using Coral Records to Trace El Niño History

    Julia explains how Galapagos coral cores reveal past ocean temperatures.

  5. 8:10
    Findings: El Niño Intensifying Since Industrial Era

    Coral data show a 36% increase in warm‑event intensity over the last 40–50 years.

  6. 8:45
    Interpreting the Correlation with Global Warming

    The coral record mirrors the rise in global temperatures, indicating a human fingerprint.

  7. 10:55
    Implications for Climate Risks and Extreme Weather

    A stronger El Niño will amplify floods, droughts, and global temperature spikes.

  8. 12:26
    Preparing for the Super El Niño: Local Adaptation Strategies

    Julia offers practical advice for communities to mitigate expected impacts.

  9. 13:34
    Episode Conclusion and Acknowledgments

    Hosts wrap up, thank Julia, and provide production credits.

Highlights

  • 0:38

    A Record-Breaking El Niño Eventdata

    Scientists describe the current El Niño as a super or Godzilla event that is stronger at this point than any other recorded instance.

  • 2:12

    The Human Fingerprint Questioninsight

    It has historically been difficult to determine human impacts on El Niño due to natural internal variability and a lack of pre-industrial data.

  • 6:10

    Extracting Temperature History From Coralstrategy

    Researchers take core samples from mound-shaped corals in the Galapagos and analyze their chemistry millimeter by millimeter to reconstruct past ocean temperatures.

  • 8:15

    Thirty-Six Percent Higher Variabilitydata

    Coral analysis reveals that ocean temperature variability was thirty-six percent higher in the past forty to fifty years compared to the pre-industrial period.

  • 8:45

    A Hockey Stick Riseinsight

    Plotting the coral data against global temperatures reveals a hockey-stick pattern that parallels the rise in global temperatures.

  • 12:02

    Faster Shorter Ecosystem Recoveryinsight

    More frequent strong El Niño events mean ecosystems like coral reefs face severe bleaching every few years instead of decades, hindering recovery.

Quotes

  • “Some scientists have nicknamed this a super or even Godzilla event.”
    Unnamed speaker · 0:33
  • “We found that that was due to an increase in the intensity of warm events, not cold events, telling us that El Ninos are getting stronger.”
    Unnamed speaker · 8:24
  • “And we put it up against a plot of global temperature. And in fact, it looks like a hockey stick.”
    Unnamed speaker · 8:45
  • “This is the biggest source of climate risks and extremes right now on the planet.”
    Unnamed speaker · 10:55
  • Whole Foods Market 2:48–4:05
  • Mint Mobile 14:12–14:27
  • Sierra Club 14:37–15:01

About this episode

The world is bracing for the worst effects of a Super El Niño. Or a Godzilla El Niño. But what does that really even mean? For millennia El Niño has shaped weather across the globe, fueling flooding in parts of the U. S., droughts and wildfires in Australia and Indonesia, and disrupting fisheries across the Pacific. Scientists have long wondered if human activities — chiefly the burning of fossil fuels — are making El Niños stronger. Now, on the eve of the strongest El Niño on record, a team of researchers think they have an answer. Interested in more science behind the weather? Email us your question at [email protected] mailto:[email protected]. Support public media with NPR+ and enjoy perks for over 25 podcasts like this one. This show’s perks include sponsor-free listening. Learn more at plus.npr.org http://plus.npr.org. See pcm.adswizz.com https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for sponsorship and to manage your podcast sponsorship preferences. NPR Privacy Policy https://www.npr.org/about-npr/179878450/privacy-policy

Transcript

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Topics

  • Indonesia
  • Galapagos Islands
  • Hawaii
  • Pacific Ocean
  • North America
  • South America
  • Planet Visionaries
  • World Meteorological Organization

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