Bruce Lipton: The Program Running 95% of Your Life

Cell biologist and former medical school professor Bruce Lipton discusses epigenetics, quantum biology, and the subconscious mind's role in shaping behavior, health, and belief. Lipton explains the theta brainwave programming window from conception to age seven, the biology of stress and immune suppression, and the four cultural myths from his book Beyond Darwin: How Epigenetics, Quantum Science, and Cooperation Shape Humanity's Future.

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• 0:02Lewis Howes?

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• 0:46Speaker 01

  Civilization is facing a collapse. We're destroying the planet. We're pillaging it. We're polluting it. You can't fix the current civilization because it's corrupt at the bottom. How soon? Science gives us 10, 20 years.

• 1:02Lewis Howes?

  So in 10 to 20 years, you think what? The world is going to collapse or civilization?

• 1:06Speaker 01

  Good question.

• 1:07Lewis Howes?

  He's a cell biologist, a former medical school professor, and he's a bestselling author. Studying three sciences Darwin never had. Please welcome Dr. Bruce Lipton.

• 1:19Speaker 01

  A garden is not a battleground. We evolved from a garden. Every organism, insects, animals, plants in a garden make a garden.

• 1:30Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 1:30Speaker 01

  The subconscious controls muscles because it's that powerful. When the subconscious is not in harmony, the power of muscle control is lost.

• 1:40Lewis Howes?

  How much effect does negative thinking have on our life?

• 1:45Speaker 01

  A positive thought will activate a positive response. A negative thought only resonates with a negative response.

• 1:52Lewis Howes?

  What is the number one belief that most people carry with them? That is killing or suppressing their immune system?

• 2:00Speaker 01

  First of all.

• 2:04Lewis Howes?

  Welcome back everyone to The School of Greatness. Very excited about our guests. We have the one and only Bruce Lipton back in the house. Good to see you, sir.

• 2:11Speaker 01

  I am so honored to be here with you, Louis. And I also want to say thank you for this opportunity to talk to this audience. Because we have a message of hope.

• 2:21Lewis Howes?

  Yes, and that's the first question I have for you. I think when you look at everything happening in the world right now, most people are living in fear, stress, uncertainty, and feeling like they have no hope of the future. Because it just feels like every system around them is rigged against them.

• 2:42Lewis Howes?

  Do you believe in that belief or what do you think about that?

• 2:45Speaker 01

  It's very exciting because if you can get some distance and look back at what's going on, we're in the right place at the right time. You go, this is crazy. I go, yeah. And the whole idea is we're living in a non-sustainable, unsustainable civilization. Meaning today it takes 1.6 planet earth resources for today's civilization. Math is simple. Subtract the one earth we have. Where's the point six resources coming from? And the answer is we're undermining the ecosystem. We're destroying the planet. We're pillaging it.

• 3:30Speaker 01

  We're polluting it. And people don't recognize the concept of a garden. We evolved from a garden. And a garden, I love it because a garden is the height of cooperation. Every organism, insects, animals, plants in a garden make a garden. A garden is not a battleground.

• 3:56Speaker 01

  And all of a sudden they say, well, wait, we've turned this garden into a battleground. I go, this is self-destruction. And then I go, yeah, but this is where they're at. I go, the idea is we must change the way we are living on this planet and how we relate to each other. Okay? Which means civilization is facing a collapse. And the significance is very profound, very basic for a reason. It's just we're not sustainable. And I say, well, then that's the science. You can't do this. And you can't fix the current civilization because it's corrupt at the bottom.

• 4:39Speaker 01

  So science has recognized the only way out is for the civilization that we're in is to collapse. So we can build a sustainable civilization from the ground up. And so when you see it in chaos as it is, it's like, that's a good sign. Why? Because we don't have that much more future before we really hit the wall. And that's a collapse is a sign that when it falls, it doesn't mean we die. It just means we have to transform into another way of life. And the future way of life is going to be beautiful. It's based on love. It's based on harmony. It's based on community.

• 5:24Speaker 01

  The things that we're missing in today's world are fundamental for the future civilization. How soon? Science gives us 10, 20 years irreversible collapse.

• 5:35Lewis Howes?

  Really?

• 5:36Speaker 01

  Yes, absolute irreversible collapse.

• 5:38Lewis Howes?

  So in 10 to 20 years, you think what? The world is going to collapse or civilization?

• 5:42Speaker 01

  Civilization is going to collapse. And that's what I was trying to say. That doesn't mean we all die. That means we form and create a civilization. And it's beginning right now. It's beginning because we have to come into a concept called community. And we're not living in community. We're people are antagonistic to each other and there's walls and all kinds of problems at that level. The resolution is we're all part of one living organism. Each of us is a cell in the body of a global organism called humanity.

• 6:24Speaker 01

  And we have to recognize the health problems that we're facing. Most of them are called autoimmune disease. That translates as self-destruction. Our cells are killing each other. I go, it's not a coincidence that what's happening in the environment is occurring within our environment. The chaos of this world is manifesting a chaos of the inside. And if you understand where we are, you can get out of the chaos. You can live among the crazy people, but not become one of the crazy people.

• 7:03Lewis Howes?

  Wow. So our body is a cell in the greater body of humanity.

• 7:12Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 7:12Lewis Howes?

  I'm hearing you say.

• 7:13Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 7:14Lewis Howes?

  How many of the people in the world right now do you believe are sick internally in some way? They have some type of sickness or disease that is blocking them from reaching their fullest potential as a human being?

• 7:26Speaker 01

  More than 50%.

• 7:27Lewis Howes?

  Really?

• 7:28Speaker 01

  Yeah. It shows up in so many different ways. I mean, people out on their back in a hospital or people dragging themselves to the job in the morning. If you're dragging yourself, there's resistance. That's what it's all about.

• 7:46Lewis Howes?

  What do you think is the number one cause of people becoming more sick? Is it how they perceive the world around them? Is it their physical environment? Is it their lifestyle choices?

• 7:58Speaker 01

  A, B, C.

• 7:59Lewis Howes?

  Is it the people they hang out with? Is it?

• 8:02Speaker 01

  Every one of those things is a factor. The most important factor is to recognize that the commonality of disease. Everyone says, oh, genes are called, oh, my genes gave me cancer or something. I love to say this, right? There's not one gene that causes cancer.

• 8:24Lewis Howes?

  Really?

• 8:24Speaker 01

  There is no such thing as a gene that causes cancer.

• 8:27Lewis Howes?

  Why do so many medical doctors say that this is a genetic trait? That you're going to receive this if your grandfather, great-grandfather had cancer, then you're going to get it? Or if they had Alzheimer's, you're going to have the gene?

• 8:38Speaker 01

  Yeah, I know. That scares the hell out of you because it makes you a victim. Because we brought the belief genes control our character. And then we teach them, oh, genes turn on and off by themselves. And all of a sudden we're like, oh, my God, my genes are going to ruin my life and I can't do anything, which makes us victims. And that's the destination for the corporation. Why? If you're a victim, you will pay anything to not be that victim. More than 60% of bankruptcies in the U.S. Healthcare, the bills from healthcare.

• 9:19Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 9:19Speaker 01

  People losing their entire money from their whole life to pay a hospital bill because they're exorbitant. People, I forgot what the number is. The highest number of people in the U.S. at this moment cannot even afford to go to an emergency room. They don't have enough money to visit an emergency room, 500 bucks. How many people don't have 500 bucks in their pocket? And that's just a majority of these people. And the stress level is, stress is the cause of that disease issue. But as you said, well, stress from what? Stress from the job. Stress from the food that's not helping us. Okay?

• 10:04Speaker 01

  Stress from the fear of I can't make it. All of those are stress. That's why when it starts to make the list, I go, yeah, that makes stress. Yeah, that makes stress. And people think genes, I go, fact of science, less than, again here, 1%. Less than 1% of disease is even connected to genes.

• 10:27Lewis Howes?

  Really?

• 10:28Speaker 01

  99% plus of disease has nothing to do with the genes. And yet you're programmed to believe it. Because if you believe it, then you have given up your power. Because you're, I can't, I can't control my genes. Oh, the pharmaceutical company will help me.

• 10:46Speaker 01

  You know, listen, I was a professor in a medical school. Okay? So I'm very familiar with some of the politics. Okay? And the significance is this, and what I'm going to say is a fact of science, published in the Journal of the American Medical Association and the British Medical Journal. Both of these research articles. Medicine, the practice of medicine, is the third leading cause of death on this planet. Currently, heart disease is number one, cancer is number two, and then the third one has a Latin name, iatrogenic illness. I go, what the hell is that?

• 11:30Speaker 01

  I go, medicine is like the church, we pray in Latin. You have no idea what the hell we're talking about. Iatrogenic illness, definition? Illness as a result of medical treatment.

• 11:43Lewis Howes?

  Is it medical treatment or medical malpractice? Is it like?

• 11:46Speaker 01

  Well, medical malpractice, uh, if they practice medicine to what they were taught, that would be malpractice. Why? The whole idea of genes, that idea in the last few years has to be thrown out. Why? Genes do not control anything. They do not control themselves. Genes are blueprints to make the parts of the body. And she went, I said, it's a blueprint. I go, what do you mean? I go, a blueprint can't turn itself on, but a blueprint needs an architect. Ah ha, someone who reads and adjusts the blueprint. Ah ha. The mind controls the reading of these units.

• 12:31Lewis Howes?

  Really?

• 12:31Speaker 01

  Cancer is caused by disharmony in the system, taking a cell that has no cancer gene and manifesting cancer.

• 12:42Lewis Howes?

  So how do we navigate our minds to turn off illness and disease in our body?

• 12:50Speaker 01

  The first thing is you have to let go of this outer view of the world because you are being fed fear. Watch the news, okay? Uh, see, as I say, search the web, watch the news, look out your window. The whole thing is going upside down. I say, well, if you participate, if you're holding on to the old or the current system and you're in fear like, oh my God, my job, blah, blah, blah. You're so, that's the stress. And the whole idea is you have to step outside. It's very hard for a lot of people. Listen, I was a tenured professor in a medical school. I say, what does that mean? That's a job for life. Once you get tenure, they can't fire you, okay?

• 13:36Speaker 01

  I had a job for life, but I walked out.

• 13:40Lewis Howes?

  Why?

• 13:41Speaker 01

  Because I said, what I was teaching was wrong in the medical school, and I was ahead of the curve, but I can't change the curriculum. And here you're right, it's run by the pharmaceutical industry. And I say, why is it important? Medical school does not teach any form of healing other than the ones that require medicine.

• 14:06Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 14:06Speaker 01

  If I could heal myself without medicine, it's not covered in medical school.

• 14:11Lewis Howes?

  Why?

• 14:12Speaker 01

  It's a business. Why should I give it away free? So, uh, watch the news. I always, I watch, I don't watch TV very much, but when I see a show and every 15 minutes, it used to be one farm ad, now it's two farm ads.

• 14:30Lewis Howes?

  At least.

• 14:30Speaker 01

  And why is that? It's a mechanism of manipulation. Put the fear in, and if you're afraid, you will buy it. That's the name of the game.

• 14:40Lewis Howes?

  You talk about programming a lot, and you said that 70% of the programs downloaded in the first seven years of our life are negative, depowering or self sabotaging.

• 14:51Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 14:51Lewis Howes?

  Does that mean that most of us are working against ourselves by default?

• 14:56Speaker 01

  Yeah, but see, and people, you have to make a connection here. I say, first of all, I just said epigenetic, the mind is the architect. Then I say, the mind, and so I was like, oh, there is a mind. I go, that's already the problem. I go, why? There are two minds, each with a different function, but they're interdependent. They work together or against each other, okay? I say, well, what is the conscious mind? The latest evolution of the brain, it's right behind your forehead, right here, uh, is the creative mind. It's the mind that's connected to spirit.

• 15:38Speaker 01

  And just to emphasize it for perhaps later, spirit is not a new age concept or just a religious concept. It's a quantum physics biological concept. It's a science. So, okay, so the whole idea is your conscious mind, creative spirit, wishes and desires. Okay, that's, that's the drive. The subconscious mind is a hard drive with programs. I go, why? Well, first of all, the brain is not like a computer. The brain is a computer. I go, so what? I said, well, in the old days, you buy a computer, it didn't come with a program. And you buy a brand new computer and you get it home.

• 16:23Speaker 01

  I got a new, oh wow, plug it in here, start boot up. Oh, it's booting up. Do something. I can't.

• 16:32Lewis Howes?

  There's no program.

• 16:32Speaker 01

  No program. You cannot use it until you get a program. The first seven years of a child's life, the brain is not functioning at the level of consciousness. There are levels of brain vibration, okay? The lowest level is called delta, unconscious, sleep.

• 16:54Lewis Howes?

  Delta.

• 16:54Speaker 01

  Delta. The next higher vibration is called theta, okay? I'm going to come back.

• 17:01Lewis Howes?

  Yep.

• 17:02Speaker 01

  Then the next higher vibration is called alpha. That's where consciousness begins. And then hopefully those watching the show are at the next level called beta, which is focused consciousness, okay? I say, so what's unique about theta? Theta, characteristic imagination. And that's how children mix the real world and the imaginary world into one. They ride that broom. It's not a broom, it's a horse.

• 17:36Lewis Howes?

  Right.

• 17:37Speaker 01

  Okay, they have that tea party, pour nothing into the cup, they're drinking nothing. That was the best damn tea I ever had in my life.

• 17:45Lewis Howes?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 17:46Speaker 01

  See, so imagination, imaginary friends, part of under seven. But the point is theta is hypnosis. I go, relevance. You need the programs of how to be a member of a family. You need, there are programs to be part of a community. There are things you can do and things you can't do. How do you know? An infant can't read a book. Nature gave the first seven years hypnosis. Observe, watch your mother, watch your father, watch your community. All I have to do is watch. And they will download the behavior of what's it like to be a parent? What's it like to live in this community?

• 18:32Speaker 01

  And now we have this program. We're, I got it from watching, okay?

• 18:36Lewis Howes?

  My environment.

• 18:37Speaker 01

  Yeah, from my environment. Now comes the problem. Okay, so we have the creative mind, the subconscious, conscious creative, subconscious habitual, habit, habits. Now, it's not necessarily bad.

• 18:53Speaker 01

  You learned how to walk when you were an infant. It's a habit. You don't even have to think about it. So it's a great mind because if you didn't have that every day, you would wake up and go, oh, I have to learn how to walk. I don't know, you got a program. You're driving a car. You taught it how, taught it subconscious how to drive the car. I can tell you right now, most of the time you're driving your car, you're not even conscious.

• 19:19Lewis Howes?

  No.

• 19:20Speaker 01

  The subconscious is driving it. Why? And here's, here's the problem. Thank you for letting me get to the problem. And here it is. The conscious mind can do two things. Consider your body as a vehicle. And the conscious mind is looking through the windshield. And when the conscious mind is in control, is looking through the windshield, is driving you to wishes and desires, okay? But that's because it's looking out. But thinking is looking in. A thought is not outside. So the moment you have a thought, your conscious mind is redirected inside. Well, it's not looking out.

• 20:04Speaker 01

  What if you're in that car and you're driving and say, wow, when I get to the store, I'm going to buy this and that. I say, you're not paying attention because you're thinking about what you're going to do. I say, yeah, but the car is going great. I go, this is the conclusion of it. The subconscious is autopilot. I say, for how much? And here is the problem. 95% of the day is average thinking time. That means 95% of the day, you're not coming from wishes and desires.

• 20:41Lewis Howes?

  It's autopilot?

• 20:42Speaker 01

  What's that? Autopilot, 95%.

• 20:45Lewis Howes?

  It's autopilot.

• 20:46Speaker 01

  Autopilot.

• 20:47Lewis Howes?

  And you're not even consciously thinking.

• 20:49Speaker 01

  Well, because you're thinking, you're not looking.

• 20:54Speaker 01

  And so if you're thinking, you're not looking at the road, but the subconscious steps in and knows how to drive the car.

• 21:00Lewis Howes?

  Knows how to walk and knows how to talk.

• 21:02Speaker 01

  Car, you know, anything you taught it, play an instrument, do a job. And so I go, but here, now we got to an issue. 95% of your life is not even coming from wishes and desires. It's coming from the program. I go, and you, as the player of this program, is the only one who cannot see it.

• 21:25Lewis Howes?

  You can't see it when you're the player.

• 21:27Speaker 01

  You can't see, when you, why? The whole point was conscious is not looking out. So as the program is playing, you're the one that can't see it. I always use this story. You have a friend, you know your friend's behavior very well, and you know your friend's parent. One day you see your friend has the exact same behavior as the parent. So you offer, hey, Bill, you're just like your dad. I can tell you right now, back away from Bill. And you already know why, because I can tell you what she's going to say. She's going to say, how can you compare me to my dad? I'm nothing like my dad. I go, everybody in the world sees him being like his dad. The only one who can't see it is Bill.

• 22:12Speaker 01

  And then, ladies and gentlemen, we are all Bill.

• 22:18Speaker 01

  Every day, we're playing these programs. Life isn't working out the way of wishes and desires. And then, because you can't see you're involved, you can't see I'm participating. But you see those people, and then you say, well, that person got in the way. And this person created a problem, and that person, I'm a victim. I go, ha, you were setting off the program. They were responding to your program. And then you look at yourself as a victim. I say, you are a creator. You are creating your life experience. If I can end it, because I really want to get to your question. A simple ending, but profound.

• 23:02Speaker 01

  Most people are familiar with the movie The Matrix. I go, this listed as science fiction. I go, it's not science fiction, it's a documentary.

• 23:11Lewis Howes?

  What do you mean?

• 23:13Speaker 01

  What is the premise? Everybody's been programmed. I go, that's a scientific reality. We're all programmed through age seven, that's, that's real. But the best part is, if you take that red pill, you can get out of the program. I go, and most everybody in this audience right now has taken that red pill at least once.

• 23:35Lewis Howes?

  And I go, what was it?

• 23:36Speaker 01

  Falling in love.

• 23:39Lewis Howes?

  I go, why is that the red pill?

• 23:42Speaker 01

  And the answer from science is simple. When you fall in love, you stop thinking. You stay present, you stay mindful. What? You've been waiting your whole life for this experience. It's not time to think, it's time to be here now. So guess what? You stop thinking, then what? Where's life coming from? Conscious, creative wishes and desires. And what did you create? The honeymoon.

• 24:11Lewis Howes?

  I say, where's the honeymoon?

• 24:13Speaker 01

  Heaven on earth.

• 24:15Lewis Howes?

  I say, does it exist?

• 24:17Speaker 01

  I say, it's there all the time.

• 24:18Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 24:19Speaker 01

  You're the one that's not playing in it because you're built. And you are sabotaging yourself with these negative programs. My father and mother had a dysfunctional relationship. I'm downloading my father's behavior unconsciously, hypnotherapy, under age seven. For forty years of my life, I could not get a relationship. Why? Because I start off a relationship, red pill. I'm the boy you want to be with. And then shortly, the program of my father would start to come because I start thinking. Job, responsibilities, things I have to do, I start thinking. And all of a sudden, that program that I downloaded from my father shows up. But guess what?

• 25:04Speaker 01

  My partner has never seen these programs. Why? I stopped playing the program, I fell in love. But when they start showing up, it's a shock. The shock, who are you? Where did that come from? And they're going like, what are you talking about? Why? Because you don't see your own behavior.

• 25:28Lewis Howes?

  This starts to shift over time.

• 25:30Speaker 01

  No.

• 25:31Lewis Howes?

  The program comes out when there's.

• 25:33Speaker 01

  Oh, the program comes out when you're thinking.

• 25:35Lewis Howes?

  Yes.

• 25:35Speaker 01

  Yeah. And you don't see it. So my partner looks at me and is like, I've never played this program because I wasn't thinking.

• 25:44Lewis Howes?

  You're in love.

• 25:45Speaker 01

  And then.

• 25:46Lewis Howes?

  Then you started thinking, oh, now we've been together for a year or two. Now I gotta go to the next step. And now it's gotta be responsibilities, and now I gotta be serious.

• 25:53Speaker 01

  Fifty percent of marriages fall apart. Why? The person they married was not the subconscious. They married the conscious element, the spiritual element. But who shows up? The program. And if the program's negative, seventy percent or more, inevitably, this is a monkey wrench in the game.

• 26:15Lewis Howes?

  Right.

• 26:16Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 26:20Lewis Howes?

  Okay, this is fascinating. So if someone has a desire, a wish, or a dream.

• 26:26Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 26:27Lewis Howes?

  And they've fallen in love with this idea.

• 26:29Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 26:30Lewis Howes?

  A creative mind, if I want to have this experience, or adventure, or life, or relationship, or whatever it might be. But then, something happens and they hit a wall over and over and over again. Why are they hitting that wall? And what does it take for them to overcome that? So they can fulfill the dream, the wish, or the desire?

• 26:51Speaker 01

  Let me give you a number that is very significant. And that is, over eighty percent of the population will not test positive for the belief I love myself. I go, eighty percent of people, they can't love themselves. I said, well, you know, this is a problem. Because if someone says they love you, and you look at them and go, you obviously have no quality control. I know I'm not lovable. And then you'll push them away, and then when they're gone, you go, see? I'm not lovable. The point about it is simply that it comes from parenting and programming of seven years. I go, where is the crux of the problem? And here it is, stay up. And you have two young.

• 27:36Lewis Howes?

  When girls.

• 27:37Speaker 01

  Young girls.

• 27:38Lewis Howes?

  So give me the advice, what do I need to do to show up on a way for the first seven years? So my kids have a programming that they believe they can love themselves, create what they want.

• 27:49Speaker 01

  It's very simple, but here's the problem, okay? Number one, parents act like the coach of a sports team. If the kid isn't doing well, they'll become the coach. I say, yeah, let's go to an older child on the team. They're not performing well. The coach has to go, oh, please, please do better. No, that's not good enough. Who do you think you are? You don't deserve to be on this team. Criticize. Because an older child will go, oh, I'm not working hard enough. I'll do better. When the parent acts as that coach, and the kid's under seven, they're not conscious. They're recording.

• 28:34Speaker 01

  I'm not good enough. I'm not smart enough. I'm not deserving. If the parent says those things, the child's just downloading at that time. And that becomes a program. And I say, then operate from a program not deserving. After age seven. I'm now thirty, forty years old. I'm working on a job. I'm, I'd let you get that raise, I want to get that next level. I screw up. And I go, oh, shoot, I screwed up. I screwed up. I can't get there. I don't deserve it. I go, you are manifesting the program. Your life has to be coherent with the program. If you have a positive program, your life is coherent.

• 29:19Speaker 01

  If you have a negative program, it's coherent. And the significance is then, well, how do I make that kid? How do you take your two beautiful kids and make them superstars? Tell them they're superstars. Every day, every day. You're beautiful, you're smart, you can do anything. Why? Downloads, subconscious. Every day, I can do anything. I can become anything.

• 29:48Lewis Howes?

  Now, is there a downside to speaking those things to them? Is there like, you know, if they don't back it with hard work? Or if they're not willing to learn new skills?

• 29:57Speaker 01

  They will, they will learn it if you're living it. Because they're copying you.

• 30:01Lewis Howes?

  You're modeling it.

• 30:02Speaker 01

  You're the model. A famous book, Rich Dad, Poor Dad. If you grew up in a rich family, you were modeling how to become rich by watching. How does this family operate? If you come from a poor family, you were being programmed as life's hard, lot likely to happen. Working and struggling, that's, that's the way it is. I go, and that's why the book acknowledges. If you came from that rich family, don't worry, you had a good program. But if you came from a poor family, I'm sorry, your life is already a struggle.

• 30:39Lewis Howes?

  Wow. So how does someone break the program if it's been negatively holding them back?

• 30:44Speaker 01

  Oh, you got the million dollar answer.

• 30:47Lewis Howes?

  Look, we've all been, we've all been programmed one way or another.

• 30:49Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 30:49Lewis Howes?

  Some have programs that are empowering and supportive for their self-image and self-belief.

• 30:55Speaker 01

  Most of us don't.

• 30:56Lewis Howes?

  But eighty percent have programs that are.

• 30:58Speaker 01

  They're critical. If you're critical of yourself, you'll look at someone, no, I'm not worthy of you. I don't deserve you. And you will then, your behavior has to be coherent with the program. If it's a negative program, then you will manifest negative behavior. It's not a choice, it's just a manifestation, that's the way it works.

• 31:18Lewis Howes?

  So how do we, how do we break that program?

• 31:20Speaker 01

  And, oh, okay. We'll come back in chapter two.

• 31:25Lewis Howes?

  Because it sound like for forty ish years, you had this program.

• 31:28Speaker 01

  Absolutely.

• 31:29Lewis Howes?

  And then all of a sudden, you learned how to live in a honeymoon program.

• 31:33Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 31:34Lewis Howes?

  Where every day was a beautiful adventure, every day had magic and awe and wonder.

• 31:38Speaker 01

  Every day, I love my.

• 31:39Lewis Howes?

  Possibilities and endless things came to you that you desired. So how did you shift that?

• 31:45Speaker 01

  First of all, you have to know you have a program.

• 31:48Lewis Howes?

  Yeah. So it's the awareness first.

• 31:49Speaker 01

  You have to have your awareness. I said, well, how do you know what your programs are? I said, well, you were being programmed officially three months before you were born. Why? Your mother is living in the world. That the program comes from the blood. The growth medium. Well, the blood has nutrition. Yeah, that's for growing. But the blood has emotional chemicals, stress chemicals. You know, all these different factors from the brain. So the blood has nutrition and information. If the mother is struggling, then her blood chemistry

• 32:30Speaker 01

  will have stress hormones and things like that. Well, then what? I said, but that blood goes into the placenta, into the womb. And that blood becomes a growth medium for the cells of the fetus. So if she's under stress, the growing fetus is under stress. Right? The same hormones that's stressing her come into the fetus. The fetus doesn't know why, but it knows what stress is all about because the chemistry affects the fetus. So we start getting programmed in, okay? The issue then becomes, how do I get the program? Well, between the three months before birth and two eight seven,

• 33:13Speaker 01

  your brain is in a state of theta, hypnosis. I always remember in the old days, hypnotherapists, they would have a watch on a pendulum and they swing it back and forth and they would say, you're getting sleepy, you're getting tired. I said, what were they? Ah, bringing the vibration of the brain toward sleep. Why? Because when consciousness is going down low, theta is coming up. So I can hypnotize you if you're on the edge of not even being awake. Okay, today, first thing we said, how do you know what the problem is? I said, simple. Look at your life right now. I go, see, I say, what?

• 33:57Speaker 01

  The things you like that come into your life, they come in because you have a program to acknowledge. But the things you work hard, stress over, put up, I'm sweating, I'm making, I'm gonna, I'm working hard, I'm working hard. Why work it so hard? And the answer is, wherever that destination is, the program and that subconscious mind doesn't support it. And you're trying to override the programming. It's not gonna work. You can't do it that way. So how do we do it? Okay, so now we're going back to how did you get the program? You were in theta. I said, well, guess what?

• 34:39Speaker 01

  While you're watching a show, hopefully you're in beta, high focus and after the show, you get a glass of wine, silly smoke or whatever. And you relax and your vibration comes down to alpha. And then the moment you fall asleep, alpha vibration stops, but theta is predominant. Ah, theta is hypnosis. So I said, then what? Put earbuds in, earphones. At the moment you're ready to go to bed, you put a program on of something wants to be true in your life, self-help program. You can buy them, okay? I say, then what? Every night you go to bed, you put the earphones, earbuds,

• 35:24Speaker 01

  and as you're sleeping, the program is playing into the mind via theta. And you're downloading while you're sleeping. I love it because what's your effort? Fall asleep. I know. Okay, that's my, all I have to do, I say, yeah, fall asleep. You have to repeat it a lot because it's not a long period of time.

• 35:47Lewis Howes?

  What, ten minutes?

• 35:48Speaker 01

  Twenty minutes. I don't know how many, probably less than ten minutes.

• 35:51Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 35:51Speaker 01

  You can get a solid hypnotic zone every night when you fall asleep. And you repeat it. And, and, um, I remember the first time I used one of those was Louise Hay. And it was interesting because, um, there was a part before the programming where she say, okay, relax, let your, your legs relax, let your arms, let your jaw. Hold, what was what? Relaxation. Why? Because the moment you fully relax, you were gone. So I always remember in the beginning, I heard the exercise and I heard some of the programming.

• 36:36Speaker 01

  The next time I played, less of the programming, less of the programming. It was the relaxation exercise that became the habit. I lay down, start the relaxation, and before she finished, I was asleep.

• 36:49Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 36:49Speaker 01

  And then the program played. So number one, self-hypnosis. And you have to pick the program. And as I said, wherever your struggle is, why are you struggling? Because you're trying to override a program that doesn't support where you want to go.

• 37:07Lewis Howes?

  And you can't override it. You can't force.

• 37:09Speaker 01

  No, it's a hard drive.

• 37:11Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 37:11Speaker 01

  I have a computer. I open it up. I put it in program, I play it and say, oh, change the program. Oh, come on, computer, change the program. Yeah. How much talking to that computer before the program changes? I go, subconscious program. There's nobody in there. So if you give it, I'm giving myself a good talking to. Who are you talking to? I'm talking to subconscious. I go, there's nobody in there. It's a hard drive.

• 37:42Lewis Howes?

  It's just a feed of the new program.

• 37:44Speaker 01

  What's that?

• 37:44Lewis Howes?

  You have to download.

• 37:45Speaker 01

  You have to put a new program. You can't talk it out of an old program.

• 37:49Lewis Howes?

  Interesting. So do you have a belief? Which is a program?

• 37:53Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 37:53Lewis Howes?

  And you tried to give it, you try to talk to yourself and say, I'm going to overcome this old belief. Just speaking to try to overcome a belief or a program that you've had for decades.

• 38:04Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 38:05Lewis Howes?

  It's not gonna work. Maybe it'll help you in a moment, try to do some step, but you're not gonna, you're not coherent to that.

• 38:13Speaker 01

  Yeah. Weight is a program, okay? If I'm overweight, I'm going on a diet. I said, if you work really, really hard, you can lose weight. The moment you stop working hard, the weight will come right back. Why? You didn't change the program, okay? You worked hard, but you didn't change the program. And that's why weight loss becomes a matter of like, why was I too late? Had to eat this garbage, blah, blah, blah. I don't like it, but I'm losing weight. I go, great. Stop doing that and the next thing you know, whatever you lost will come back. Right? Because weight is a program.

• 38:51Lewis Howes?

  What's a, if, if weight is a program, uh, what is it? I think more than fifty percent of the population is obese or overweight at the moment. I think it's, maybe it's more now. I'm not sure.

• 39:00Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 39:01Lewis Howes?

  What is that program that causes people to gain so much weight and struggle losing the weight? And in this scenario, how could you reprogram or download a new program to show yourself that and believe that losing weight doesn't have to be so hard?

• 39:20Speaker 01

  No. Okay. Uh, uh, number one, um, why, why so many people having a problem? I said, stress. Eating food for most people is a drug.

• 39:32Speaker 01

  If I'm eating food, I'm not here. I'm enjoying, oh, that tastes so good. I look forward to this dessert. Um, you know, I'm, I'm living in the moment with this food. But the problem is, uh, you are numbing the program. And you're eating all this food so you don't have to hear or respond to the program. It's, it's a drug. Food is a drug, okay? And the problem about it is it takes your mind off of the program. I've got a moment, I'm eating food, the world's not bothering me. I'm enjoying this food and I'll have to eat more because stress is more. Now he's supersized me.

• 40:15Speaker 01

  And the idea about is, well, weight is a program. I say, so what you want to do, you want to change the program? I say, you want to change the given weight you've been living at? Because that's like a thermostat. Subconscious says, that's our weight. We learned this, okay? I say, whatever weight, let's say you're 180 and you want to be 140. I say, then what do you do? You change the program. My weight is 140. My weight is 140. Uh, uh, while we're doing it, very important. You can't say, my weight will be 140. I will get healthy. I want 140. I go, will, want? I said, why is that important? You're making a recording.

• 40:59Speaker 01

  Okay, so yeah, today, I, I, I want to be 140. It's a recording. I said, next year, oh yeah. Let's say that recording. I want to be 140. It's like, oh, you're so wanted. You never said you were 140. You were saying, a wish to be 140. That's not being 140. So it's funny because when you program, fact, you have to program. The program is if you have what you want now.

• 41:31Lewis Howes?

  Hmm.

• 41:32Speaker 01

  Because the job of the mind is to make the program real.

• 41:36Lewis Howes?

  Hmm.

• 41:36Speaker 01

  So I say, I'm 140. I program it and the mind goes, no, you're not. You're 180. You have, oh, 140? The mind will shift and take you down to 140 to be coherent with the program.

• 41:52Lewis Howes?

  Oh, but if, but if you're saying a program, if you're 180 and you're trying to be 140 and you say, I am 140, isn't that incoherent? Wouldn't you not believe it because it's a lie essentially in the, in the now?

• 42:06Speaker 01

  Oh yeah, but so we didn't go to number two. So we did number one, self-hypnosis. Okay, we should, you can do it that way. Most programming that affects us personally is after age seven, where you're beginning to use your consciousness and living in this life, okay? And I say, because we're talking about number one way, self-hypnosis. But now comes number two, okay? And number two is repetition, habituation. Something you repeat over and over again. You're making a habit out of it. So when you say, I am 140, I am 140, and you keep repeating that, you're not dealing with a conscious mind.

• 42:50Speaker 01

  The repetition is what changes a program, a habit. My habit now is 140.

• 42:56Lewis Howes?

  Hmm.

• 42:57Speaker 01

  And when you get that habit established, the function of the mind, uh, this is like, people are taking, taking notes here. The function of the mind is to make coherence between your belief and your reality. If your belief is negative, the function of the mind is to manifest negative. If your belief is positive, it will do positive. But you have to have a program. And after age seven's hypnosis, you can make new programs. So if you're an adult and you say, well, I can do self-hypnosis. I go, yeah, but you can also do repetition. Uh, the, the new age one always struck me kind of humorous is you're not a happy person.

• 43:42Speaker 01

  You want to be a happy person? All day long, to yourself, I am happy. I am happy. I am happy. There's a point where you wake up one day, you won't even have to say it. Why? Now, by repetition, the mind will make sure when you wake up to be coherent, I will be happy. I am happy.

• 44:06Lewis Howes?

  If someone watching or listening right now has never seen any of this work before, they're not in this space, someone sent them this video or this audio and they don't believe in any of this stuff. They're kind of skeptical, they're living a victim mindset. They're like, that just sounds like a bunch of nonsense. You know, the power of like positive thinking or the power of repetition.

• 44:27Speaker 01

  Positive thinking.

• 44:28Lewis Howes?

  Or just the power of like saying something that I'm not, you know? Isn't that just sound like fake? If I said, I'm happy, I'm wealthy, I am healthy, but I'm actually broke, unlovable and fat. Like, how do I, how do I believe these words that I'm saying that are so not true currently?

• 44:46Speaker 01

  Positive thinking. And you go, come on, that doesn't work. I go, guess what? More than 50% of medical healings are all placebo. I believe that. And I say, and what is placebo? Well, uh, Lewis, here's this pill that would guarantee to take care of that problem you had your whole life. It's a brand new pill. It's purple, the study is going to work, okay? And you take the pill and you get better. And then you come back and find out it was a sugar pill. A sugar pill. Well, why heals you? Oh, sugar? Your belief in the pill, positive thinking.

• 45:29Lewis Howes?

  Hmm.

• 45:29Speaker 01

  Placebo is all positive thinking. An operation, it's not even real. It's called a sham. A fake operation will heal you as much as a real operation will.

• 45:41Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 45:41Speaker 01

  Okay? And so that's positive thinking. Now, what you let out and hello people, this is the part that becomes important. That is healing through positive thinking. What about negative thinking? I go, equally powerful positive thinking, but in the opposite direction.

• 46:02Lewis Howes?

  How much effect does negative thinking have on our life?

• 46:08Speaker 01

  I think almost all the healthcare crisis was the results of it. And there you're thinking, manifest through stress. What stress? It's not working the way I want it to work. I, I can't get there. That's the negative thinking. I can't get there. And that is where the stress comes from. Stress is you want, you have an idea of what you want. It's not working. That's stress.

• 46:33Lewis Howes?

  Hmm.

• 46:34Speaker 01

  You know, and let me add this because, um, we're talking about, uh, when I mentioned the, uh, red pill, falling in love, okay? I, I want to emphasize this because does it mean I have to fall in love with a person? I go, no, you can have a pet. That's a substitute that works, okay? Or you can be a guardian or growing a garden. What, what does it do? It stops you from thinking. You're doing mechanical things. I'm digging in the dirt and planting the seeds and you, it's a meditation. A chef is a meditation. I'm going to create this magnificent meal.

• 47:17Speaker 01

  I need to add this and this, and I need to do this and that. And all of a sudden, guess what? You're not thinking. I say, well, what happens when you're not thinking? The conscious mind is not working. Now you're manifesting a great meal, a wonderful garden, whatever. Okay? So the idea about that, I just wanted to take out that, oh, I have to fall in love with somebody? No, you have to do something you love. You love life. Fall in love with that.

• 47:47Lewis Howes?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 47:47Speaker 01

  Because that means then your attention is drawn to that than to the outside world. It's not coming in.

• 47:54Lewis Howes?

  Hmm.

• 47:54Speaker 01

  That's basically it.

• 47:55Lewis Howes?

  My friend, I hope you're enjoying this episode. And the School of Greatness drops new conversations every Monday, Wednesday and Friday around money, mindset, healing, manifestation and relationships. And if you're not yet following the show, then you're missing all of them. Please tap the follow button right now and you'll get notified the moment every new episode drops because the next one might be exactly what you need. Now let's get back to the conversation.

• 48:23Lewis Howes?

  So you were a medical school professor for a long time.

• 48:26Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 48:27Lewis Howes?

  But you also study the science of spirituality and quantum physics.

• 48:32Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 48:33Lewis Howes?

  So what is the science of spirituality and how does it tie in with quantum physics?

• 48:38Speaker 01

  Oh, I love this. Thank you very much because the evolution we're facing requires people to understand spirituality is a science. There's a very important reason. Okay, so first of all, spirituality, give me an idea about it. Say, number one, I cannot put my heart, lung, kidney into your body, Lewis. Why? Because if I put my cells into your body, your immune system will say, not self. And the immune system's job will destroy it. If you put your cells into somebody else's body, their immune system will say, not self. Now we're getting to a point, hey, what is it? We have a self that is distinguished from everybody else.

• 49:23Speaker 01

  No two people in the entire world have the same self. I go, well, how do you know this? Where is it? I go, the immune system can see it. I go, so what? The immune system sees physical things, viruses, bacteria, parasites, somebody else's cells. It sees something physical. Now we know what it is. I say, where is it? On the surface of your cells, except for the red blood cells. Red blood cells don't have these identity markers. That's why transfusion, red blood cells, just cell type, A, B, O, okay?

• 50:03Lewis Howes?

  As long as they match the.

• 50:04Speaker 01

  As, as long as they match the blood type, it's, there's no identity to the cells.

• 50:09Lewis Howes?

  Interesting.

• 50:10Speaker 01

  Okay? The cells with a nucleus are the cells that have on the surface a bunch of receptors that on the surface, on the skin of the cell. I go, parallel, we are a cell incarnate. We're receptors, eyes, ears, nose, taste, touch. They're all part of our skin. On the cell's skin, there are a set of proteins, receptors. Receptor means receiver.

• 50:45Speaker 01

  No two people in the whole world have the same set of self receptors. That's what it's called, self receptors. I go, what about them? Well, they were mislabeled originally.

• 51:01Speaker 01

  Many, they said, oh, the physical receptor is making me different than you. Okay.

• 51:08Speaker 01

  It's not the physical receptor. It's what the receptor is reading. The information. I say, well, where's the information coming from? They go, these receptors are on the surface. So they give you identity. I say, then where's the signal of identity? Out here? It's not here. It comes into here. Now, interesting, a scientist, astronaut, Brian O'Leary, did a wonderful study. He put cells of his body in a test tube, moved them 350 miles away from him. So he's here to sell 350 miles away.

• 51:53Speaker 01

  They put a recording device to record the electrical activity of the cells. Now it was a split screen television. Half of it, Brian O'Leary live. The other half, live readout from the test tube.

• 52:12Speaker 01

  When Brian had an emotional response now, instantaneous, instantly, not even a live period, no way. The cells 350 miles are activated.

• 52:23Lewis Howes?

  That's crazy.

• 52:25Speaker 01

  Well, because here comes the cool part.

• 52:28Speaker 01

  The information that is picked up by cell receptors comes from the environment. This is where quantum physics comes in. A quote, I love this quote, Albert Einstein. We talk about energy, a field, the field. We're in a field right now. Cell phone broadcast, television broadcast, radio broadcast, solar energy, we're in an energy field. Definition of field. Invisible, moving forces that influence the physical world. Spirit. Invisible, moving forces that influence the physical world. Quantum science has recognized that these receptors are picking up a field.

• 53:13Speaker 01

  And that you are picking up an energy field broadcast. Different than anybody else in the entire world. You have your own broadcast station. Okay. Now the analogy. The body is a television set. The program is picked up from the broadcast and downloaded via these receptors. The point that is so cool is you're watching the TV and it breaks. TV's dead. It's not working, TV's dead.

• 53:51Speaker 01

  Does the broadcast die? No. It's up here. It's in the field. It's everywhere. And the point about it is, so your television's gone, you're dead. But your identity was the spirit field. Okay. Now comes the cool part. Well, now you're dead, you have no body, you're in an energy field. But an infant in the future has the same antennas as you. You're back, new TV. Does it make a difference, male or female? That's the TV. You are the broadcast, you are not the TV. Does it make a difference, white, brown, black, red, yellow?

• 54:35Speaker 01

  No, that's the TV. You are the broadcast.

• 54:40Speaker 01

  When people start to recognize, we all come from the same field. We all are coming from the same energy field, quantum physics, which acknowledges the spirit as an energy field, unique to each one of us. You cannot die, you're not in here. Okay. Now, where are you? Where's the broadcast? The television show is playing right now. I can't see it. Why? I need the TV.

• 55:11Lewis Howes?

  Okay. Where the TV? The body is receiving a signal, we're receiving a broadcast, we're reacting to the broadcast.

• 55:19Speaker 01

  The program is manifesting, the brief show, right now, live. Okay. Profoundly important. You know that distance thing I mentioned with moving cells? Here's an interesting fact. There was a scientific study on liver regeneration. And they were doing histology. And they found that a number of women in the regenerated liver have Y chromosomes. Wait, wait, Y chromosomes are male chromosome. Where the hell does this woman get Y chromosomes in cells to regenerate?

• 55:59Speaker 01

  They all have male babies.

• 56:03Speaker 01

  Here's what they found out. Stem cells from the baby cross through in the blood to the mother.

• 56:12Lewis Howes?

  Interesting.

• 56:13Speaker 01

  So the mother is like the test tube we talked about with Brian O'Leary. She's got her own baby's stem cells in her body.

• 56:22Lewis Howes?

  Is that why you hear mothers say they can feel their kids across the world? That something is off, or they might be going through something? They're beginning to sense, and then they call them and they're like, yes, something was going on?

• 56:33Speaker 01

  Exactly where it is.

• 56:35Lewis Howes?

  Fascinating.

• 56:35Speaker 01

  Because there's a test tube with the energy of the child's cells are playing. A mother is never disconnected from her offspring.

• 56:47Lewis Howes?

  Wow. Well, maybe if she turned off the program or found a way to...

• 56:51Speaker 01

  Or just not listen.

• 56:52Lewis Howes?

  Yeah. Wasn't being...

• 56:54Speaker 01

  Not listen.

• 56:54Lewis Howes?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 56:55Speaker 01

  And I learned to listen myself. Because I started to realize that sometimes my mind would like talk to me, you know? One of the most amazing, like, the wake up one, the one that was the wake up clock. I was in the lab doing an experiment. And to set up the experiment, it's like an hour and a half or more to set it up. And then I have to stir the solution. And if it gets warm, it polymerizes into plastic and it doesn't work. The third time in the day, a whole day, make all that time to put the solution in, start to stir, it turns into the plastic.

• 57:38Speaker 01

  The third time, the whole day was shot. And I was so angry. And it was sort of like there was, you know, the devil and angel. And the devil on my side was, you're stupid, you can't do anything. You can't, it was like giving me so much aggravation of myself. I'm giving myself, not good enough, not deserving, blah, blah, blah. And I hear a voice. I'm alone. There's nobody in the room. It's like right here. And the voice said, don't you have anything better to do than to listen to this crap?

• 58:15Speaker 01

  And I was like in shock. I heard this voice say that. And so I said, yeah, I could go to a movie. And there was a newspaper. I picked up that newspaper, saw the movie, got my car, boom, went to the movie, came out of the movie. No more problem.

• 58:35Speaker 01

  I stopped the thinking. I stopped it by doing something totally different. And that was a wake up call. There's a couple of things. Number one, if it's bothering you, go do something that doesn't bother you.

• 58:49Lewis Howes?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 58:50Speaker 01

  Because if it bothers you, it's like going on and on and on. It will bring you down.

• 58:56Lewis Howes?

  Yes.

• 58:56Speaker 01

  Something negative, your kid does this, your parent does that, your friends does this. Boom, boom, boom. And I said, do something different. Step outside.

• 59:06Lewis Howes?

  That's it.

• 59:06Speaker 01

  And I started to realize, in the past, when I've heard that voice, but never made a response to it, like, oh yeah, I should do this. And if you didn't do it, it always cost me. I woke up. When I hear that voice now, whatever says, man, I'm gonna do it.

• 59:23Lewis Howes?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Quantum physics says that we're energetically connected, right?

• 59:29Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 59:30Lewis Howes?

  What does that mean practically for how someone should think about their relationships with anyone else in their life? Especially their loved ones and also their enemies?

• 59:43Speaker 01

  Well, we go back to the Einstein quote. The field is the sole governing agency of matter. Whether it's your neighbor, your son, whatever, matter, field. And I said, yeah, I can read your brain activity, wires on the head, electrons, electric grass.

• 1:00:02Speaker 01

  But another device to read your mind is called magnetoencephalograph. And the probe is out here.

• 1:00:10Lewis Howes?

  You can read someone's mind?

• 1:00:12Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:00:12Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 1:00:13Speaker 01

  Well, if you're in a relationship with somebody for a long period of time, you can download yourself. You begin to know what that person is thinking before they even finish the sentence.

• 1:00:24Lewis Howes?

  Cause you've been following the repetition of their program.

• 1:00:27Speaker 01

  Yes, but you've heard the program, but now you start to recognize it.

• 1:00:31Lewis Howes?

  Patterns.

• 1:00:32Speaker 01

  Your pattern, okay? So the point about is this, your thoughts are not contained in your head. Your thoughts are a field.

• 1:00:39Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 1:00:40Speaker 01

  But the field is broadcast. I say, so what? The field is a sole governing agency of matter. If you have negative, negative things being broadcast, it's not going to activate anything positive. It's called resonance. It will activate something with the same energy. A positive thought will activate a positive response. A negative thought only resonates with a negative response. And we're getting down to something like, and people don't want to hear this in general, because they don't understand. We are personally responsible for everything in our lives.

• 1:01:23Lewis Howes?

  People don't like to hear that.

• 1:01:24Speaker 01

  They don't want to hear that because they're looking at their life. I wouldn't have done that, I'd say, no, if you knew you were playing a program, you wouldn't play that program.

• 1:01:32Lewis Howes?

  How can someone say, if they hear you say you're personally responsible for everything in your life?

• 1:01:37Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:01:37Lewis Howes?

  And someone in their twenties or thirties or forties and fifties says, well, I grew up in a place that I didn't want to grow up in. I was given parents that I didn't want to have. I had these circumstances and environments and challenges that I faced that other people didn't have to go through. I've got traumas that were not my fault because they were done to me. I didn't create these. So how can you say all of that when I feel like I was given the worst of life rather than the best that others have?

• 1:02:07Speaker 01

  Yeah, but you are the one that have the program. Now, this is why the old psychology, and that gives us the number three. We talked about self-hypnosis.

• 1:02:18Lewis Howes?

  Yeah, repetition.

• 1:02:19Speaker 01

  Repetition, habituation. And number three, uh, there's a saying very familiar. Necessity is the mother of invention. And guess what? As we're facing a collapse of civilization, there's a necessity to change our belief system, fast. Well, there's a thing called energy psychology. It's a different version of psychology. It doesn't go back in your history. Oh, your friend did this and your mom did that. Like, oh, the bad programming from the family. I say, it's going backwards. I say, why is that not relevant? Because they're not here. You carried a program from the past.

• 1:03:04Speaker 01

  So dealing with people in the past just reactivates the program. The hell with the past. It's irrelevant. It's the present. As we said, where is your stress? Where is that program? Do I need to go back to it? No, you have the program. That's why you're dealing with it. Energy psychology engages something called super learning. Super learning? Yeah. A child under seven is a super learner. They go, why? They can have one experience of something and for the rest of their life, it would be a mark in their program. Okay, just one experience. I say, so where is super learning? Why? There's a mechanism.

• 1:03:49Speaker 01

  If you look at a human brain, there's a line right down the middle of the brain. They're called hemispheres, left and right. The two hemispheres have different functions. The left hemisphere, many different functions, but the left hemisphere, intellectual. Words come from this, okay? The right hemisphere, emotion, pictures, words, pictures, okay? Awareness, feelings, okay? When a child's seven and under, like your kids, those two are plugged in so that every experience your child has is recorded as a life intellectual experience

• 1:04:31Speaker 01

  and simultaneously as an emotional expression, okay? After age seven, they're, they're physically connected, but not functionally connected. There's a separation. Okay, what does that mean? I say, it's called ultraradian frequency. For two or three hours, you're in the intellectual side. And then two hours later, you're in the emotional side. It's a wave. Intellectual, emotional, intellectual, emotional. The point is this, you're not in both of them anymore. You're a separate one. And it's problematic.

• 1:05:13Speaker 01

  I always like to joke, I say, a couple has a fight. And just for the fun of it, I say, at this moment, the man is in the intellectual side. The woman is in the emotional side. I say, so what? During that argument, the man is going, and the woman is going, wow, she has the words. She has emotion, she's feeling it. He's hitting her. Two or three hours later, he's going, oh man, I messed up. Oh my God, I feel, oh my God, oh, what did I do? And she's got the words. And she comes in and cuts him up.

• 1:05:55Speaker 01

  The reality is this, you want to get to super learning, you have to integrate the two hemispheres. I can give you an insight. This is just an insight, it's not the whole process. My right hand is controlled by my left hemisphere. The left hand by right hemisphere. So I'm moving my right hand where? Out here, okay? And my left hemisphere is in charge. But if I move my hand into the other side of my body, now it's in the left hemisphere.

• 1:06:28Lewis Howes?

  Really?

• 1:06:29Speaker 01

  Yeah. I say, then what? Well, it gets picked up on the other side. So now both sides, the right is controlling. Okay, let me see, the left is controlling the right hand. But when it crosses into this side, the other half of the brain picks it up. And so when you cross your limbs, let's say your ankles, when you cross your ankles, you are crossing the midline.

• 1:06:56Lewis Howes?

  Interesting.

• 1:06:57Speaker 01

  It's calming. Guess what? Now that I said it, when you're hanging out with people, watch, most of the people will have their ankles crossed. Why? When you bring the two hemispheres together, it's very calming. And that's why when you're relaxing, your ankles get crossed, okay?

• 1:07:20Lewis Howes?

  I go, okay, well, I want to do this also then, you know?

• 1:07:22Speaker 01

  Yeah, so you cross your ankles and arm. She can put them out like that, cross them, go like that, and then go like this and put them on your chest. And have your ankles crossed. Now, what I left out of my little stories is number one, do I put my right ankle over my left ankle? Or vice versa? Or do I put my right arm over my left arm? Or vice versa? It's dependent on what program you're trying to change based on the history of experiencing that program. Which hemisphere is more dominant, okay?

• 1:07:59Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 1:07:59Speaker 01

  So, you get into this posture after you've tested which one is which. And here's how simple it is. There's a simplifier, okay?

• 1:08:10Lewis Howes?

  Yes.

• 1:08:12Speaker 01

  Uh, first of all, you've tested the belief. I don't, now comes an issue because how do I test the subconscious? There's nobody in there. I can't ask, hey subconscious, what do you think about this? Right? There's nobody going to make a response. Here is this very important point. The subconscious is massive compared to the conscious. The subconscious, a million times more powerful a computer than the conscious. The subconscious controls muscles because it's that powerful. The amount of just moving my fingers, that's a lot of computation neurologically, okay? Conscious mind can't do that. So the subconscious controls muscles, okay?

• 1:08:57Speaker 01

  Now here comes the point. Conscious mind is creative. Self-conscious mind got programmed. If I make a statement with my conscious mind, my subconscious mind immediately checks to see if that's true. If I say, my name is Bruce. Subconscious mind, yeah. Both minds are in harmony. When both minds are in harmony, my muscle is solid like a rock. Muscle test, push down. If both minds are in harmony, you, you won't be able to push it down. I want people to understand this because a lot of men do this and they think it's muscle arm wrestling. They're trying to lift it. I hear, no.

• 1:09:39Speaker 01

  The point is not to let it go down, not to lift it. That's arm wrestling. If I say something, my conscious mind, uh, my subconscious agrees, that muscle is solid, okay? But if I make a say, a statement, my name is Mary. My subconscious go, that's, that's not true? Now the two minds are not in harmony. When the subconscious is not in harmony, the power of muscle control is lost. So I make a statement, if it's true, my arm's going to be solid. If I make a statement, I have two heads. That arm is going to fall. And so basically, the first thing you want to do is,

• 1:10:24Speaker 01

  what program am I checking? I love myself. I put, I do a whole, there's more to it than that, but the test. I finally get the test. I love myself. If my arm drops, it says your subconscious does not agree with that. Now I have to change it. So what are I going to do? I want to install a program. So how do I do that? Ah, cross my limbs. Why? Integrate right and left hemispheres, just like I was a kid, okay? And I sit there and I say to myself, I love myself. You're going to get a feeling the first time you say it. I say, why? Cause your body, if it doesn't agree,

• 1:11:06Speaker 01

  it's going to be static like, or it may even talk back, oh yeah, sure, right? You, you'll feel the body is not happy with, I love myself. I say, what are you doing then? I just say, repeat it again. To yourself, I love myself. Go for the feeling. Go then, I love myself. Go for the feeling. There'll be a point.

• 1:11:31Speaker 01

  Where the feeling will absolutely change. It'll be completely different. Rather than staticky, in my particular case, it's different for each person. When I get to that point, my subconscious going, okay. So, what else? If I say I'm bored, you know, why? Because every time you say, I love myself in this posture, you're rewagging a program. I say, well, how long does that take? I say, how many experiences did you have that made that program? The more life experience that repeats that program, the longer it takes to get that program to reprogram. I say, well, how long can it take? I say, two minutes, three minutes?

• 1:12:15Speaker 01

  I say, you've had a belief your entire life, 50 years old. How long will it change? I love myself, I love myself. Three minutes. And guess what? You walk away, it's done. Do you have to do it again? No. How fast does it take? I love this. How fast I made this change in a belief? Let's start with this one, very simple. Uh, I'm afraid of spiders. So I go, I like spiders. I like spiders. I like spiders. Then we test. Because the first time I said, I like spiders, my beliefs, no, I don't believe that. How do I know this changed?

• 1:12:59Speaker 01

  Put my arm back out and go, I like spiders. If it's changed, you won't move the arm. It's not the conscious mind. Conscious mind has no control over this. You can hold your, I keep it strong, keep it strong. It's going to drop just as fast. Why? Conscious mind does not control muscle. If the muscle thing changed, it means that the subconscious changed. Okay? So I say, okay, I like spiders, I like spiders. I do that, repeat. Finally, it gets to a point, my subconscious, oh, okay. And test, yeah, I like spiders, strong. Bring a spider into me right at that moment, when I have that belief. Instantaneously, you will not be afraid of that.

• 1:13:43Speaker 01

  I know, interesting. But if it's, I love myself, or I want a better job, I have, I'm making the money I want, okay? Well, you can't get that instantly. You have to go out and live.

• 1:13:58Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 1:13:58Speaker 01

  Then, so, most of those things, if it's a phobia, you can put the stimulus right there.

• 1:14:06Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 1:14:06Speaker 01

  And how fast will it change? As soon as you felt that change and you tested, it's done.

• 1:14:11Lewis Howes?

  It's done. You've written that there's four cultural myths that keep us trapped in self-destruction in this loop. What are these myths? And how do you think we can stop letting them run our lives?

• 1:14:27Speaker 01

  Okay. Four cultural myths. Two of them are Darwinian theory. Okay, I say what? Darwinian theory is the belief that your heredity controls the character of your life. That's a myth. It's not true. Your mind controls it. But if you believe you're a victim, what is the nature? We said that before. What's the function of the minds? Make coherence between the belief. If I feel I'm a victim of cancer, because it's running in my family, I will manifest cancer. Why? The function of the mind was, oh, you believe in cancer. Yeah, you can have it.

• 1:15:11Speaker 01

  Uh, just to dispel that gene story. They studied what happened when infants are adopted into families where there's cancer running in the family. The adopted child will get the same family cancer.

• 1:15:27Lewis Howes?

  Really?

• 1:15:27Speaker 01

  Yes. And the adopted child, totally different genetics. What was the whole idea? Cancer was a program of dysfunction that manifests, not genetics. Okay? So, the belief of victim is the biggest issue that we have at some level, because it says, I'm powerless. Most people say, I'm powerless. I want to be successful, everything's not working. The world looks like crap. It's all falling apart. Ha, ha, this is not what I want. I go, well, that's because you believe the program. Okay? So I go, that's number one.

• 1:16:06Lewis Howes?

  That I'm a victim.

• 1:16:07Speaker 01

  That I'm a victim.

• 1:16:07Lewis Howes?

  Okay.

• 1:16:08Speaker 01

  Number two, Darwinian theory, biggest problem on the planet. Survival of the fittest and the struggle for life. Survival of the fittest, struggle? Well, first of all, the struggle for life is a falsehood. It's not scientific. It was an idea from a philosopher in the 1700s who came up with an idea that everybody said, oh, that's true. Life is a struggle. He came up with the idea that plants don't reproduce as fast as animals. I said, so what's the point? Plants are reproducing at a slow rate. Animals are producing at a fast rate. Point? Too many animals, not enough food.

• 1:16:52Speaker 01

  The struggle for life. Thomas Malthus, philosopher, built into Darwinian theory. Completely wrong. Animals and plants reach a balance, and it doesn't get out of balance. So the whole idea of struggle is out. But then, it was survival of the fittest. And this is important right now. I go, why? The word fit means capable of surviving. But no, no, it didn't say survival of the fit. It said, survival of the fittest. What does that mean? Oh, well, let's look at the population of fit people. These are just fit. These are more fit. These are fit. Yeah, these are fit.

• 1:17:37Speaker 01

  And these are the fittest. It came from Darwinian Victorian upbringing and philosophy. The upper class, the fittest, okay? Which meant, the upper class count, and nobody else counts. If you're fit, you're lower class, it doesn't make any difference. You came from upper class, you automatically are the fittest by birth. You were born into the fittest, okay? Victorian days, no longer, but guess what? That survival of the fittest had led to today's biggest problem. 1%, it's actually far less than 1% of the population,

• 1:18:21Speaker 01

  owns more than 99% of the population. I go, imagine the resources as a pie. And 1% takes more than half of that pie out. I say, yeah, but what's the last of the pie? He said, less than half. I say, yeah, but how many people are looking for it? 99% of the people are go, stress, competition, survival of the fittest. So those are the first two. What would be three and four? Number three, if I remember correctly, is the loss of understanding spirituality. You don't know who you are.

• 1:19:02Speaker 01

  You are, and I'm going to say this with meaning, a piece of God. You've been programmed to believe that if you have a good life, and you die, you can go to heaven. This body is a gift. It's an accessory to your spirit. It can do things. If you have a manifestation wish, it takes a body to manifest that wish. So we came here to have a body to create, make things, do things, okay? So, we have a body for that.

• 1:19:43Speaker 01

  People don't recognize, this is an accessory to spirit in that sense, okay? And, uh, uh, spirit in a body also has something that a body offers that you don't know what's going on. I say, sensation. What does love feel like? What does anger feel like? You know, what does jealousy feel like? It's a manifestation of the cells informing the brain. And the brain, remember, broadcasting. And the thoughts of that individual are broadcast back to the source, the broadcast.

• 1:20:28Speaker 01

  And, your life experiences alter the source.

• 1:20:36Speaker 01

  It's called karma. Meaning if you're out of harmony because your life was out of harmony, your broadcast is now out of harmony. The next time you come back into a TV, you come back in out of harmony. But the mission is what? Get back to harmony. And so how many times does it take, you know? But the point is, how long does it take to change karma? I said, once you, once you know the mechanism, the program can change.

• 1:21:10Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 1:21:10Speaker 01

  The program changes, karma is done. And we have that option, except you're not hearing about the program. You're not being told about it. It's known by a few, but it's not in their interest for you to know about it because then you won't be a customer. You won't buy that medication. Okay? Uh, and you won't accept war, war. Uh, I, I love it. The last slide of my lecture, I show a cell with antennas. I say, these are the cell receptors. And I say, the source is the field, but you can call the field spirit because same definition.

• 1:21:55Speaker 01

  I say, the source is coming to all of us. And but then I show three cells side by side. A Muslim cell, a Jewish cell, a Christian cell. I say, what is that? I say, program. I say, what is it? Program of separation. Program fight, this one fights this one, that one fights this one, this one fights. I say, we all came from the same source. And that these programs are the divisive element. The awareness of the vision. It started with religion. Almost all the wars until recent times are religious.

• 1:22:40Speaker 01

  And to me, the surprising one is Ireland. I go, why? Catholics and Protestants have the same God. We're the same story of love and forgiveness. And they're killing each other. I go, two of the Jesus religions are killing each other? Maybe they lost the message somewhere. But religion separated them. And I say, I'm not a religious person, Lewis. I am a spiritual person. What does that mean? I know I'm connected to a field. And then this is where the God part comes in.

• 1:23:24Speaker 01

  I personally create my life. I'm a personal creator of this life. You are creating your life. But if all of us share the same belief, the same program, then collectively we are manifesting what we experience on this planet. Now, the last one, the fourth one, beyond my, did you write it down?

• 1:23:51Lewis Howes?

  I didn't write it down. I was probably in this book.

• 1:23:53Speaker 01

  Yeah, this book is, we'll have that in there.

• 1:23:56Lewis Howes?

  So maybe it's in the book, Beyond Darwin, How Epigenetics, Quantum Science, and Cooperation Shape Humanity's Future.

• 1:24:03Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:24:03Lewis Howes?

  I'll make sure people get this because it's got so much good information here.

• 1:24:06Speaker 01

  It's a scientific, it's a part one, part two. Part one is a scientific theory. I call it the antidote to Darwin. It's just the opposite of Darwin. It's based on cooperation, love, spirituality. Uh, and part two is ways of living in harmony to support the new theory, which has to do with diet and consciousness and behavior and those other aspects to say, listen, we have to change the way we are living. And this is information about that. So it's part one is the theory.

• 1:24:49Speaker 01

  And part two is how can I live into this theory while the other one is coming down?

• 1:24:55Lewis Howes?

  Yes. Got a couple of final questions for you, but this has been powerful, so I'm grateful, Bruce.

• 1:25:02Speaker 01

  Hey, Lewis?

• 1:25:03Lewis Howes?

  Yes.

• 1:25:04Speaker 01

  Thank you for this interview.

• 1:25:05Lewis Howes?

  Yeah, thank you for being here.

• 1:25:06Speaker 01

  I want to thank you because you have a wonderful audience. And they're the people that I would call cultural creatives. Why? They're looking outside the box.

• 1:25:19Lewis Howes?

  Yes.

• 1:25:19Speaker 01

  And you are the teacher, offering them through your podcast, an opportunity to see something outside that box. And so to me, one of the most important jobs in evolution is what you are doing right now. Knowledge is power and you are empowering all these wonderful people.

• 1:25:41Lewis Howes?

  I appreciate it. Thank you.

• 1:25:42Speaker 01

  Thank you.

• 1:25:43Lewis Howes?

  Thank you. Appreciate it. I look at myself as like a facilitator. You know, facilitating information.

• 1:25:50Speaker 01

  Right, facilitating knowledge.

• 1:25:52Lewis Howes?

  Yeah, absolutely.

• 1:25:53Speaker 01

  And knowledge is power.

• 1:25:54Lewis Howes?

  It is. I love this, your conversation around quantum physics. And you, you said that quantum physics proves that the material world is an illusion, I believe, right?

• 1:26:04Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:26:05Lewis Howes?

  So quantum physics proves the material world is an illusion. What should someone do differently with their life with that information?

• 1:26:13Speaker 01

  If it's an illusion, that is a conscious experience. Okay, that's a conscious interpretation of what an illusion. Magic is an illusion, okay? If you don't understand the, how the magician created the illusion, then for you, it's always like, wow, it's magic, okay? But underneath that, there was a process. And if you understand the process, well, it may take the ma, the magic out of the picture. But it also says, ah, there's a way to make it work. And what we have to do is recognize the illusion

• 1:26:58Speaker 01

  of a world that we perceive to be out of control, where in fact, we are the actual participants in manifesting an out of control world until we know the magic behind it. And then all of a sudden it says, well, I can create magic. I can change the illusion. And this is what we are really about to learn. Get out of this magic of self-destruction. It's magic. It's not real, but we're manifesting it.

• 1:27:32Lewis Howes?

  Right, right. What is the number one belief that most people carry with them that is silently killing or suppressing their immune system? And what is the biological mechanism behind that?

• 1:27:48Speaker 01

  Ah, good question. Thank you. Stress is what I've been talking about. And I say, well, what's stress? And I say this, you can divide behavior into two A B, growth and protection. You cannot do both at the same time. I say, why? Growth, you go through the stimulus, your arms open, take it in. Food, love, awareness, give it to me.

• 1:28:22Lewis Howes?

  Imagination, creativity.

• 1:28:24Speaker 01

  You have, you have to be open, okay? Protection is close yourself down. Wall yourself off. Protect me from that threat. And you don't go through a stimulus, you go away. So I say, growth, go through a stimulus, open. Protection, close yourself down, go away from a stimulus. Completely opposite. And you can't do both at the same time. So the point is, stress hormones give us the warning that we're under threat. That's what stress, threat. Well, I have to protect myself.

• 1:29:04Speaker 01

  So the stress hormones get the body prepared for protection. I say, how? So we go back a hundred thousand years and I say, so what was your stress? That saber-toothed tiger is chasing me. And she, well, how are you going to protect yourself? Well, the stress hormones are going to kick in. I said, what are they going to do? And here's the three things where stress destroys us. Number one, I want to run like hell from that tiger. So I want my blood in my arms and legs. I say, why? The blood carries energy. You want to run? You better have the energy in your blood

• 1:29:49Speaker 01

  because that's where it's coming from. So I say, and, and this is like out of a textbook. When stress hormones are released into the body, the blood is preferentially sent to the arms and legs. Where was it before? The gut. I said, what's the function of gut? Maintenance of the body, repair of the body, energize the body. It's all taking care of the machine. But at the moment, the tiger is coming.

• 1:30:18Lewis Howes?

  The legs.

• 1:30:18Speaker 01

  I need the legs in a run. So stress hormones cause the blood vessels to just squeeze shut. You can feel it. It's called queasy. I feel, oh, I'm feeling scared, scared. Feel queasy there. Or butterflies in the stomach. I say, what's that? The fluttering of the blood vessels as they're shutting down. You can feel it, okay? So first thing is this, you sell off growth and maintenance for the body. Number one. Number two, the immune system uses a tremendous amount of energy. And I say, well, look, if you've ever been sick, you may not even have the energy to get out of the bed. So the immune system uses a lot of energy.

• 1:31:02Speaker 01

  Now, let's scenario. I'm being chased by a saber-toothed tiger. I have a bacterial infection. Well, my immune system is gonna take care of the bacterial infection, but my arms and legs won't get me away. So I say, what do you think the, the, uh, stress hormones do? They shut off the immune system. Why? The hell with the bacteria. If the tiger

• 1:31:27Lewis Howes?

  I asked you.

• 1:31:28Speaker 01

  It's not right then.

• 1:31:29Lewis Howes?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:31:30Speaker 01

  Okay. This is why, like, kids at school, when we get stressed at a jam time, that's when they get sick.

• 1:31:38Lewis Howes?

  Hmm. When they get stressed at what time?

• 1:31:40Speaker 01

  Exams, like, oh, my God, your exams are coming. Oh, my God, I gotta get sick. They get sick. When your job is too stressful, you get sick. Why? Stress hormones are getting ready for you to run. That was the point. I need your blood. That's a fix. I was saying, I gotta run. So, one, we shut down growth and maintenance of body. Two, we shut off the immune system. Why? The threat is external. The immune system is normal. I don't need it. And the last one, that's the, I call that the insult to the injury. I say, what is it?

• 1:32:19Speaker 01

  The conscious mind is a very creative mind, very beautiful. Subconscious mind habit. Creativity is a slower neurological process.

• 1:32:32Speaker 01

  Reaction, re-reactivity instantly. Okay? So, uh, uh, let's say you're driving the car and it starts getting out of control. This is my, my vision of a person who stays in the conscious mind while it's out of control. Oh, I go, what happens? Stress hormones come in. What do they do? Squeeze blood vessels. Where? Forebrain. Why? Because the blood is now pushed to the hind brain. And the hind brain controls all the behavior instantly. So when it starts getting, all of a sudden, you're steering, you're hitting the brakes and you're controlling the car

• 1:33:16Speaker 01

  as fast as anything.

• 1:33:18Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 1:33:19Speaker 01

  Point, when you're in that stress, thinking is too slow. We become less intelligent. And that is today's world. The intelligence of the individual is lost because they're under stress and they're ready to run.

• 1:33:36Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 1:33:36Speaker 01

  And I say, and, and the bottom line is this. When we lost the Russians, we're gonna bomb us back in the Cold War. We built a bomb shelter. Here's the point. Conclusion is important.

• 1:33:49Speaker 01

  In those days, I remember they would have a air raid test. Sirens would go off. And then we, in school, we all go down and get in under the desks and blah, blah, blah. And then 10 minutes later, sirens say, all clear. And we get up and go back to work. So the community is growing. The sirens go off. They go in the bomb shelter. 10 minutes? They come back out. Community's growing again. Problem. What if you get the sirens and you go in, but there is no all clear? Problem. How long can you live in the bomb shelter? You only have a certain amount of food and a certain amount of water.

• 1:34:35Speaker 01

  And if you use all that up and you're still in the bomb shelter, you're gonna die.

• 1:34:42Speaker 01

  The stresses we have today are not the same as that tiger.

• 1:34:48Speaker 01

  If you're running from the tiger, you can get away in 10 minutes of running.

• 1:34:52Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 1:34:52Speaker 01

  You can get away and then stress is gone. So an interference with your maintenance of the body, your immune system, your intelligence for 10 minutes, fine. After the tiger's gone, you're back to growing again. But today, and this is the conclusion of it. Stress is 24, you know, seven, three, six, five, every day. A human body was never designed to be in the bomb shelter that long.

• 1:35:24Lewis Howes?

  Right.

• 1:35:25Speaker 01

  And the result is the illness shutting off the maintenance. There's a problem. Starting off the immune system, there's a problem.

• 1:35:33Lewis Howes?

  Yes.

• 1:35:33Speaker 01

  And shutting off the intelligence is why that person will tell me what to do. I say, you gave up your power to that person? Do you trust them?

• 1:35:45Speaker 01

  This is where we are.

• 1:35:46Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 1:35:47Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:35:47Lewis Howes?

  Well. Beyond Darwin, how epigenetics, quantum science and cooperation shape human humanities future. I want to make sure I want to get this book by Bruce Lipton. A lot of great science and research in here you guys can check out.

• 1:36:02Speaker 01

  I tried to make it, of course, very readable.

• 1:36:04Lewis Howes?

  Yes, yes. I like that you have a lot of pictures also for me, you know, I'm a

• 1:36:09Speaker 01

  Pictures, thousand words.

• 1:36:10Lewis Howes?

  It shows you a lot. So for me, it's, it's very, uh, very helpful. And I love the, the explanation of the field and how to understand all these things. So sometimes these things can feel, uh, like big concepts or, or hard to understand. So when you break them down in simple ways and show images in there and kind of backing the science, it's really helpful. So I want to make sure I want to get

• 1:36:32Speaker 01

  I, I so appreciate that because my wish is people will take their power back.

• 1:36:38Lewis Howes?

  Yes.

• 1:36:39Speaker 01

  They will even know they don't have the power.

• 1:36:42Lewis Howes?

  Yes.

• 1:36:42Speaker 01

  They, they know it's not working.

• 1:36:44Lewis Howes?

  Right.

• 1:36:45Speaker 01

  But they've confused it. And when you tell them you're a very powerful creator, they go, what are you talking about?

• 1:36:52Lewis Howes?

  Exactly.

• 1:36:53Speaker 01

  I wouldn't have created this mess. I go, you didn't. Your program created this mess.

• 1:36:58Lewis Howes?

  Mm hmm. It's time to create a new program.

• 1:37:00Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:37:01Lewis Howes?

  Um, I want to ask you two final questions. I asked you this the first time we did an interview, which I think was like five years ago, but it was virtual. So I want to ask you here in person. Uh, this is called the three truths. So hypothetical scenario.

• 1:37:14Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:37:14Lewis Howes?

  You get to live as long as you want and you get to continue to create and impact as many people as you want. But at the last day, you gotta take all of your books and content and work with you. So hypothetically, we don't have any more of your content after you pass on your last day.

• 1:37:30Speaker 01

  Who doesn't have it? Me or them?

• 1:37:32Lewis Howes?

  We don't have it. The rest of the world.

• 1:37:34Speaker 01

  Well, the book is there.

• 1:37:35Lewis Howes?

  Like, it's a hypothetical scenario.

• 1:37:37Speaker 01

  All the books disappear.

• 1:37:39Lewis Howes?

  Yes, everything's gone. Let's just hypothetically. And so we don't have access to your content hypothetical. But on your last day, you get to leave behind three truths to the world. Only three things that you know to be true from all your life experience and knowledge.

• 1:37:55Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:37:56Lewis Howes?

  What would those three truths be for you?

• 1:37:58Speaker 01

  Number one, you are a powerful creator. That this is not an accident. Okay?

• 1:38:08Speaker 01

  Number two, you're immortal. You're a spirit that doesn't die. And you get a chance to come back and play again.

• 1:38:20Speaker 01

  And number three is take the time and watch the sunset.

• 1:38:27Speaker 01

  Take the time and smell the roses. Take the time and experience the beautiful garden. Because if you're looking for heaven, it's here.

• 1:38:39Lewis Howes?

  That's beautiful. Bruce, I want to acknowledge you for being a constant guide of inspiration, of knowledge, of wisdom to so many people to unlearning programs that don't support them and learning new programs to live a more empowered life.

• 1:38:54Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:38:55Lewis Howes?

  Where a lot of people are feeling stressed, stuck and really not worthy. And you're a constant reminder of providing spirituality, wisdom and science on how to create a new life for yourself. So I want to acknowledge you for that. Um, people can learn more at bruselipton.com or they can follow you on social media, Bruce Lipton, everywhere. They can get your book as well. And my final question, Bruce, is what is your definition of greatness?

• 1:39:26Speaker 01

  Greatness is, um, living up to what you can be and helping others find that same place in themselves.

• 1:39:38Lewis Howes?

  First up, and thank you so much.

• 1:39:39Speaker 01

  Lewis, I'm thanking you very much.

• 1:39:41Lewis Howes?

  My friend, I hope you're enjoying this episode right now because we are on a mission to impact 100 million lives every single week. And every follow here on this podcast helps us reach more people. Make sure to hit the follow at the top of this show's page right now. It's the single biggest thing that you can do to support the show and the impact of us reaching you every single time we have new episodes. I appreciate you and I can't wait to see you in the next episode. I hope you enjoyed today's episode and it inspired you on your journey towards greatness. Make sure to check out the show notes in the description for a full rundown of today's episode with all the important links.

• 1:40:21Lewis Howes?

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