Pod Insights Scam Goddess The Steroid Olympics w/ Nicole Byer & Sasheer Zamata About this episode This week, Laci welcomes co-hosts of the podcast, Best Friends, Nicole Byer and Sasheer Zamata (Grand Crew, Agatha All Along ), to discuss the Enhanced Games, a proposed international sporting event set to take place in Las Vegas in 2026. The event is being organized by Aron D'Souza and backed by controversial billionaire Peter Thiel, with the goal of creating a 'science-forward' sporting event where humanity can reach its full potential. Stay schemin’!
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SOURCES
https://www.wired.com/story/enhanced-games-freestyle-record-las-vegas-steroids/
https://www.sportcal.com/analyst-comment/a-review-of-the-2026-enhanced-games/?cf-view
https://www.sbnation.com/2025/5/29/24439297/enhanced-games-world-records-donald-trump-jr
https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/04/sport/world-aquatics-enhanced-games-ban-spt-intl
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/23/style/enhanced-games.html
https://swimswam.com/watch-kristian-gkolomeev-goes-under-50-free-world-record-in-20-89-at-enhanced-games-showcase/
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2:18 Laci Mosley? Congregation. What's boppin'? It's your girl, Lacey Mosley, AKA Scam Goddess, back with a podcast all about fraud, robbery, and those who practice it. I will remind you again, it is a comedy podcast. For those of you who are new to church, stand up, say hello to your neighbor, give him a handshake, amen, amen. And buckle up today because I have a double shot of comedy all-stars in the building. Look, you've seen one of them on Grand Crew, nailed it, and Summer of 69, just to say a few, okay? I'm gonna throw Bob's Burgers in there because I love that episode. And another on Agatha All Alone. Well, I say all alone. I know what it is.
2:55 Speaker 04 Poor Agatha.
2:56 Laci Mosley? And another, and another on Agatha All Along, Home Economics, and Saturday Night Live. Hello, together these two icons host the hilarious podcast Best Friends, which just returned from a hiatus. So y'all better go subscribe right now. If you've not already subscribed, why are you playing? You know which Best Friends I'm talking about. It's Nicole Byer and Sasheer Zamata. Hello, queen. Hello. We love a unison hello. Yes, we're getting claps in the booth. There were claps in the booth. It's giving best friends. We love that. Welcome back to the show. You are both two veterans. Thank you so much for passing around the collection plate. And please give that to me so I can put it in my purse. I mean, put it in the church safe. Sure. Yeah, you know. My purse is the church safe.
3:40 Laci Mosley? But that's just so, it's mobile.
3:42 Speaker 04 Well, it's your church, so technically, the collection plate is yours.
3:46 Laci Mosley? Yeah, because I'm keeping it safe.
3:47 Speaker 04 Yeah, well, no, you don't even have to keep it safe. It's your church. So like, by logic, that's your money.
3:54 Laci Mosley? No, that's not how that works.
3:55 Speaker 04 Yes, it is.
3:56 Laci Mosley? No, if someone runs a church, the money's supposed to go to the church. Yeah, and the community. Like, back to the community. I'm community. Like, that's why people get arrested when it's like priests buying cars with the community's money. Oh, oh, Nicole, are you serious?
4:10 Speaker 04 Yeah, I'm dead ass. But the church I grew up in, he had a new car every couple of years and I was like, that's probably on our dime.
4:18 Laci Mosley? That's not okay, though.
4:19 Speaker 04 And then they had a house that I think we all paid for.
4:21 Laci Mosley? That's not okay, though.
4:26 Speaker 04 Really?
4:26 Laci Mosley? I hadn't even gotten to the question yet and Nicole's already telling us a little bit about it.
4:30 Speaker 04 This is how I've been scammed, actually.
4:31 Laci Mosley? My whole, my whole family's been scammed. You were so sincere. I thought you were on the same wave as me. You're like, no, that's, you take it home.
4:37 Speaker 04 I, I'm really shook. Like, I thought churches took money and then like the people of the church spent that money and then some of it. Like, I thought, okay, so I thought, say you give a dollar to the church.
4:50 Laci Mosley? Right.
4:50 Speaker 04 The pastor and his family keeps 25 cents of it and then 25 cents goes to like the church's building and then 25 cents goes to savings and then 25 cents goes to helping the community in the church. No?
5:02 Laci Mosley? I don't know. I actually don't know how that sounds. That actually, technically pastors should pay themselves a salary.
5:08 Speaker 04 Yeah.
5:08 Laci Mosley? Yeah, so you're not wrong about that, but, but, but saying that all the church money is my money is, that's illegal-ish.
5:16 Speaker 04 Oh, okay.
5:16 Laci Mosley? Yeah.
5:17 Speaker 04 Okay.
5:17 Laci Mosley? Yeah, just a little on my board now. I see your relationship with scams here. It was like, you were like, yeah, no, the pastor came and did the, we did the offering. He get, he, we handed him the money. He put it in his pocket.
5:26 Speaker 04 Yeah, he put it right in his pocket. And when he would walk in for the sermon, he would jingle jangle because it was full of quarters.
5:32 Laci Mosley? Yeah. And that's fine.
5:34 Speaker 04 And that's, that's, you know, jingle jangle for the Lord.
5:36 Laci Mosley? Mm-hmm. Yeah. Technically, he is an employee of the Lord.
5:39 Speaker 04 Mm-hmm.
5:40 Laci Mosley? But the Lord does not pay his salary. We do.
5:43 Speaker 04 Yes, the Lord is not incorporated and thus cannot pay.
5:48 Laci Mosley? These things make sense to me.
5:49 Speaker 04 Yeah, makes sense to me.
5:50 Laci Mosley? But I mean, look, I've said it many times on this podcast, churches are tax exempt, so you know, I might have to get involved at some point. I think, I think I could really do a good job and really help the community.
6:00 Speaker 04 I think so.
6:00 Laci Mosley? And I'm a part of the community, so I can help myself as well as a community member. Yes.
6:04 Speaker 04 Yeah.
6:05 Laci Mosley? Well, we always ask on this podcast, and Nicole, you kind of already had to jump the gun there sincerely, but what is your relationship with scams? Do you love them? Do you hate them? Have you seen any recent scams? Have any been run on you? Have you run some that are past the statute of limitations? It could be anything. I get scammed. I...
6:24 Laci Mosley? I'm too trusting. I recently got got because I was trying to book a hotel. Which that seems very simple. And I just had, I had to call them to like rearrange dates or something like that. And then they were like, okay, and now we're gonna transfer you. Like, everything was done. And I was like, transfer me? And they transferred me.
6:42 Speaker 04 Who else do you need to talk to?
6:43 Laci Mosley? Exactly. I was like, who, who, who was on the line? Transfer me. And then this lady was like, hey, do you like vacations? And I was like, I mean, yeah, why are you talking to me? And I was like, I knew it was wrong. I was doubting myself the whole time and asking questions. And she was like, I mean, where do you like to go? And I was like, I don't know, Vegas? Why are you asking these questions? And she was like, darling, hold my hand. She was like, kept me on for a while.
7:08 Laci Mosley? And then by the end, she was like, you know, we have locations in all these places. And, you know, if you sign up for this package and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I was like, I don't want to. How much is it?
7:19 Laci Mosley? And it just kept going. And then by the end, I did sign up for it. And I told my girlfriend and she was like, I'll call them. And so she had, like my mom, she had to call and cancel and be like, she didn't know.
7:29 Speaker 04 So Sheer told me this story. And at the start of it, I was like, So Sheer? Because we went on vacation to Mexico. Do you remember they were trying to sell us timeshares? And you were like, this is actually a good deal. And I was like, no, no, it's not. You're never gonna go to this timeshare.
7:44 Laci Mosley? I know. And I know in my heart, it's wrong, but I'm just like, I mean, that sounds like a deal. That sounds good.
7:49 Speaker 04 So Sheer was like, Nicole, they give you a free boombox. And I was like, girl, no, you can, you can afford a boombox.
7:55 Laci Mosley? We can get a towel.
7:57 Speaker 04 You can afford a towel.
7:58 Laci Mosley? Yeah, but this is a free one. And they said, we had to sign up right now.
8:02 Speaker 04 It's so funny because it is easy to get you. But then it's not sometimes.
8:07 Laci Mosley? Yeah.
8:07 Speaker 04 We were in Africa and we got off a train and this man was like, we have a song for you. And I went, oh, okay. And I walked on over and I was like, So Sheer, wait, this man has a song for us. And she was like, girl, stop it. He wants your money. And I was like, oh, yes. I can get scammed very easily in person if you have a song on your heart. A dance in your soul. She supports the arts. Yes. I paid $500 for a pig painting in New Orleans that was, I would say, pretty poorly painted. And I said, how much? She said, $500. And I said, sold. And she went, what? And I went, yeah. She went, no. Okay. Like, even she was confused. She was like, you don't want to haggle? Yeah. You want to try? Take me down a little bit. But I still have it. It's my first piece of art. There's glitter on it. It's wild. It's one of the wildest things I own.
8:51 Speaker 04 But, let's see. Yeah, I'll run a scam. The scam I'm trying to run with this year is... So have you been to the Delta One Lounge? Of course. Lovely. Delightful. Yeah. Full, you can get a meal. Yeah, you get a meal. Now that they're starting to be stingy with the black people coming in, but, uh, but I always seem to make it. Well, if you have a Delta One ticket, you get in. Well, yeah, but, but, you know, sometimes they want to... Really? Well, I guess not in Delta One. I'm thinking of Delta Lounge. But Delta One, no. Well, Delta One's something like... I bought a bed, bitch. You better let me a bed. They let you in. Yeah. But... But I do love Delta One. No lined. Why don't we hang out there one day? Just spend a full day at the Delta Lounge. Get a massage. We buy a ticket. Oh, the massages are so good, I fell asleep.
9:35 Speaker 04 Exactly. I want to do this because it's technically free. If we buy a refundable Delta plane ticket one way, go to the Delta Lounge, cancel the ticket
9:49 Speaker 04 before the flight takes off, we are now in the lounge to enjoy all the amenities. Mm-hmm. Oh. And I would like to do this because I've done it before, but just not at the Delta Lounge. I bought a Delta ticket for me and this dude I was seeing so we could eat at the Guy Fieri Restaurant in the Burbank Airport. Wow. So I bought us a refundable ticket. We went through security. We were dressed in flames. We had a burger. They said our names over the loudspeaker. I called up Delta and I was like, oh no, we missed our flight. Can I just have that refunded back to my account? Not only was it refunded, it wasn't refunded back to my account. They gave me my money back. So it wasn't even like a credit. They just gave me my money back. Wow. Scams. I'm doing it. I'm doing it and I can't wait. I love this scam.
10:34 Laci Mosley? That it was for Guy Fieri because the last time I had one of his burgers with the don quiches, I was definitely on a Carnival cruise or like a or a what's the bougie version of Carnival Royal Caribbean? And then they got some other.
10:46 Speaker 04 I simply don't know.
10:47 Laci Mosley? My family loves to cruise and it was something that I really had to like fight them about. Like I was um on set one day and I got upset. I think I was in Atlanta shooting something and I was hanging out um with Lil Rel. And he was like, oh, my God, you fucking kidding me? And he was like, what's wrong? And I was like, my parents are trying to book another fucking cruise and telling me I gotta go on it. And then he was like, your family's trying to take you on a free vacation and you're angry? And I was like, no, you don't understand. You're trapped in the ocean with a bunch of Trump supporters, eating the saltiest food until your ankles swell. It is torture.
11:18 Speaker 04 Yeah, I feel like a cruise is like Titanic. It's like they're taking what is what is this? The quote from Rose is how I think of it. I'm being take it back on. I don't know, whatever. I can't even think of the quote, but she's mad about getting on that boat and rightfully so.
11:32 Laci Mosley? Rightfully so, as she should have been.
11:34 Speaker 04 Yeah, I do want to be able to leave. Yeah, and you have to wait till you get to port and then you can miss the boat, but then you're on your own.
11:41 Laci Mosley? And they will leave you. I almost got left one time, like literally the we were at Señor Frog's right next to the boat. And they were like, oh, señorita, ta bien, like the boat is gonna be here, like all of this. And we were like, I don't know. They're like, no, we work with the cruise. We work with the cruise.
11:55 Speaker 04 No, they sure don't.
11:57 Laci Mosley? They said, give me my money. Talk about a scam. I was sprinting and it used to be like a bit that me and my family would like watch over the deck whenever we were about to leave a port because people always get left. And then you just see them running towards the ship and you laugh and laugh.
12:12 Speaker 04 That's wild.
12:13 Laci Mosley? They were laughing at me.
12:15 Speaker 04 Here's another scam I like, stealing.
12:20 Speaker 04 As a crime.
12:22 Laci Mosley? I mean, scams could technically be crimes.
12:24 Speaker 04 It's a light, it's a light. A light crime. Oh, yes. Uh, at the self-checkout because I don't work there.
12:29 Laci Mosley? No, that's your wages.
12:30 Speaker 04 Buy one, take one. That's that's my deal for myself. I proudly hold what I've stolen and I dare you to say something because I lost my res- I don't. I don't know where the receipt went.
12:41 Laci Mosley? Yeah.
12:41 Speaker 04 And nobody's gonna go over to where I was to try to find it because I've stuffed it in a crevice.
12:46 Laci Mosley? And no one cares about hourly employment enough to do that anyway. Like, every now and then you'll meet a hater who wants to be like Robocop of the pavilions of the Walmart. Like, they really like here to fight crime.
12:58 Speaker 04 Yeah.
12:58 Laci Mosley? But most part, they're just be like, hey, or they're like hitting on you. They stop you to be like, you look so beautiful. I'm like holding up my receipt, they're like, oh, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, you good.
13:05 Speaker 04 We live different lives.
13:07 Laci Mosley? Please, you're gorgeous. I'm sure they'd stop you too, but you're just walking away the confidence.
13:12 Speaker 04 Yeah, maybe my head is just held high and I'm like, I dare you. I dare you to stop me with my Maybelline mascara.
13:18 Laci Mosley? Those are called wages, in my opinion. Like, I don't work there, and now I'm an employee? No, no, no, no, no. Like, I'm leaving with something, as Denzel famously said.
13:26 Speaker 04 No, I follow the rules. That scares me. You do love rules. Yeah. And I steal all around you. I know, and I don't like it. It stresses me out. I try to distance myself. I'm like, I don't want to be associated with this. I'm not going down with you. You wouldn't.
13:41 Laci Mosley? Going down, like you're gonna accomplice?
13:43 Speaker 04 Exactly. Like, you knew? And I'm like, I did.
13:47 Laci Mosley? No. Nicole is a chapstick and you're like, I saw her do it.
13:51 Speaker 04 I'll tell you something, I made my sister an accomplice once. I made her take a chapstick and then we used it in the car. My mother was like, where did you get that? And I was like, the store.
14:03 Laci Mosley? So badass.
14:04 Speaker 04 Then she made us go back and apologize. You think I'd learn my lesson? Yeah. But I said, I'll never apologize again.
14:10 Laci Mosley? That's what you took from it?
14:11 Speaker 04 That's the last time I ever apologize. I will steal. Maybe that's where I learned fear. Because I, when I was a child, someone had opened, like, put a little hole in like a cookie box at the grocery store. And I was like, to take a cookie? And I was like, I want a cookie too. And so I took a cookie out of there. And my mom saw me eating it, and she's like, where did that come from? And I was like, right here. And then she was like, you can't do that. Now I had to buy the bag. And then, like, I feel like a clerk or like someone who worked there in the aisle, she was like, you have to apologize to him. And I'm just apologizing to some like 17-year-old who doesn't care. They're like, okay. I was like, I'm sorry.
14:48 Laci Mosley? I didn't mean to take the cookie. And then he's like, fine, that's, it's okay.
14:53 Speaker 04 That's so funny how punishment affects people differently.
14:55 Laci Mosley? Mm hmm.
14:56 Speaker 04 Some people go, I'll follow the rules. And others are like, no. No.
15:00 Laci Mosley? I'll get better.
15:01 Speaker 04 I'll get better at this, so I never have to apologize.
15:03 Laci Mosley? Yeah. Same. Like, sometimes you just need reform. Like, a lot of people go to prison, they become better criminals. You know what I mean? They get in there, they study, they meet other criminals. Like, they do hair notes.
15:13 Speaker 04 That's like that man who's still on the loose from New Orleans. Out of 10, one is still out there. And I'm rooting for him.
15:19 Laci Mosley? I mean.
15:21 Speaker 04 Stay out there, King.
15:22 Laci Mosley? I couldn't believe it was him that made it there. Because wasn't he the one with the face tats? Or was he the other one? Did they catch face tat? Because it was two that were still on the large. And one was light skinned, he had face tats. And then the other one was kind of like skinnier and like, no, it's not, it's not face tat. It's the other, the skinnier one. Yeah, because he had good sense. The rest of them was posted up on the block, over here getting fresh.
15:40 Speaker 04 Yes.
15:41 Laci Mosley? Like, why are you over here getting hair braided?
15:43 Speaker 04 On Bourbon Street, taking a nap when he was found.
15:45 Laci Mosley? That's really funny.
15:46 Speaker 04 Come on.
15:47 Laci Mosley? Yeah. Listen, they saw a hole in the wall. They did not have any plans. They were just like, we have to leave.
15:53 Speaker 04 It's like, uh, Rumspringa for prison.
15:57 Laci Mosley? That's how they should phrase this to the judge. I just want to try it.
16:00 Speaker 04 Just want to try it and see if we liked outside. We don't like outside.
16:02 Laci Mosley? I'll come back. We love the jail, actually. We realize we love penance, yeah. So, no harm, no foul? Yeah? No, I love that.
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17:43 Speaker 05 Hello, hello. I'm Malcolm Gladwell, host of Smart Talks with IBM. I spoke with IBM's Ana Paula Acees about what digital sovereignty actually means in the age of AI.
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18:18 Laci Mosley? Well, let's get into our main event here, historic hoodwinkings. This is where I will regale Sachir and Nicole with the famous con caper group of criminals. We don't know. Unserious people, serious people have no idea. So at next year's Enhanced Games, which if you haven't heard of what Enhanced Games are, Nicole's nodding yes. It's very funny to me. It's an all-steroids, all-the-time version of the Olympics. Not only are the athletes using performance-enhancing drugs to cheat, the game themselves, they are also the scam to sell supplements. It's like it's just a scam to sell these supplements. So it's like the athletes are coming, they're cheating, it's a requirement. They test you for it.
19:02 Speaker 04 You've got to be juiced up.
19:03 Laci Mosley? They test you for it and they're like, not enough. Yeah. We didn't get any steroids in your system. You need to leave.
19:10 Speaker 04 That's really funny. Like it. Yeah. That's fun. Also, I'm like intrigued, like, what can you do?
19:18 Laci Mosley? Exactly.
19:19 Speaker 04 What can all these... Juiced up athletes do. Will we see a superhero be born? Yeah. Can you jump way higher than all the other Olympians? I would love to see this. How fast are they running? Can someone out-bile Simone? Mm-hmm.
19:32 Laci Mosley? Ooh.
19:34 Speaker 04 I'm intrigued. So this has happened multiple times? No. Oh, this is the first time?
19:38 Laci Mosley? That's why they're saying it's anticipatory, next year's enhanced games.
19:42 Speaker 04 Okay.
19:42 Laci Mosley? I also would love to see like the Olympics just have like, like in track, like there's two outer fields. And one is just like a regular guy running and the other one is like someone on roids. Just so we can see like the non-roided people in the middle. Like, how good are they?
19:55 Speaker 04 That's a fun scale. Like, this person tried so hard and they're on steroids. This person trained and then this is Bridget from accounting. We're just gonna see if she can run.
20:05 Laci Mosley? And then they will really know how impressive they are.
20:08 Speaker 04 Yeah, definitely.
20:09 Laci Mosley? I think we need that litmus test for more sports, because people get on the internet and start talking trash to athletes. And I'm like, you could not do anything that they do. Why are you commenting on their stats? Like, let's get you out there.
20:19 Speaker 04 My favorite is men who are like, oh, I could beat Serena Venus Williams. And I'm like, how on earth do you look at like these two women who are so muscular, who are so decorated? And go, I can do that? It's so dumb. That's nuts. I actually just saw a video, I guess it was an old video, of these like dudes playing against Serena Williams. It was five of them against just Serena Williams. And she was kicking their ass and it was, and she was just like laughing. She's like,
20:46 Speaker 04 and they were like falling, rolling over each other. I think I saw that, like, one ball hit a racket and his wrist like went back and he was like, oh! One ball hit a guy in the ass and he was like, oh my god!
20:55 Laci Mosley? Now they're getting injured. They're like playing against one of those ball shooters, but it's Serena Williams.
21:01 Speaker 04 Yeah, but it's Serena Williams. Yeah.
21:03 Laci Mosley? Oh my goodness. Well, so the Olympics on steroids. Two years ago, Australian lawyer Aaron De Souza, and I wish I could say Aaron De Souza. I can't do an Australian accent other than LaserDisc. Aaron De Souza, yeah, something, nothing. Either of you?
21:20 Speaker 04 That sounds great. So Sher, do you think you could do an Australian? No, I don't. Alright, I won't press it. Fair enough. I also can't. R and R.
21:29 Laci Mosley? It's very hard. It's one of the hardest. I don't know why, on my ear, it's just so hard. But so Aaron came out and said he was creating a new sporting event called the Enhanced Games, which he said would be like the Olympics, but performance-enhancing drugs and steroids were allowed and encouraged. Seems like demanded, but okay. Also, like, steroids are bad for your heart and your body.
21:51 Speaker 04 Yeah, it's bad for everything. Is there like, regulation on just like, how much can a human have? Like, is there anyone being like, you are having too much?
22:00 Laci Mosley? I don't know.
22:02 Speaker 04 This is actually not, you can't compete? Like, we're actually worried you might, your heart might explode. Yeah, you might die. Yeah.
22:07 Laci Mosley? I don't think they kicked you out for being over-served. It's not like a bar, I don't think. And this is the guy.
22:11 Speaker 04 But it should be.
22:11 Laci Mosley? It should be. He doesn't even look like he's on roids.
22:14 Speaker 04 Well, we don't know. Let's see that body, yada, yada. Is that the lawyer?
22:17 Laci Mosley? Yes. And then he's saying here, this is how you know he's a lawyer, he said, "This is not a doping."
22:23 Speaker 04 A doping. It's many dopings. It's multiple dopings. It is the dopinging.
22:27 Laci Mosley? Yeah. Not the doping. Listen, he's using specific language, because he's a lawyer, and so I'm not against that. He wants humanity to reach our full potential. And that's not gonna happen if organizations like the World Anti-Doping Agency doesn't allow the world's greatest athletes to get roided out on dangerous drugs.
22:47 Speaker 04 That does sound like Thanos, or like some supervillain. "I just want humanity to reach its full potential."
22:53 Laci Mosley? Yeah. And right now, we're not reaching it because we're not taking the roids.
22:57 Speaker 04 We're not on roids.
22:59 Laci Mosley? Okay, look, I have asthma, so technically, I've taken some roids.
23:03 Speaker 04 You're enhanced.
23:04 Laci Mosley? Oh, yeah, you're enhanced. I'm enhanced, okay? I'm glad they weren't checking for that when I was running track, and I'd be like, "Huh, huh, huh." It was for the asthma, though.
23:12 Speaker 04 I think it's such a small amount that it wouldn't act. I think it's just-
23:15 Laci Mosley? Not the way I do it.
23:16 Speaker 04 For your lungs. It powers you up. You're like, "Ah, ah, I'm juiced to run."
23:20 Laci Mosley? I'm just hitting it like a vape can. They're like, "I don't think you need that." Much like no, no, no.
23:25 Speaker 04 No, I do.
23:25 Laci Mosley? I'm having a flare. So the enhanced games are supposed to happen in 2026 and feature the 100 meter sprint, 100 meter hurdles, swimming events and weightlifting competitions where you really need the roid. In May, Aaron's company held an Apple-style launch event to announce the date and venue of their first ever enhanced games, and it's gonna be in Vegas, and it's gonna be at the least sketchy hotel in Vegas.
23:51 Speaker 04 The Golden Nugget?
23:52 Laci Mosley? Resorts World.
23:55 Speaker 04 Okay.
23:56 Laci Mosley? And if you don't remember, Mr. Beast had a experience.
24:00 Speaker 04 Who is Mr. Beast?
24:01 Laci Mosley? He is a man.
24:02 Speaker 04 I've heard so much about this person, and I've seen his picture, but what does he do?
24:07 Laci Mosley? Everything and nothing.
24:08 Speaker 04 Cause he like has a lot of money?
24:10 Laci Mosley? So yeah, he has the most followers on YouTube. The last time I saw, he was at 414 million. I'm thinking he used to do stuff with animals.
24:20 Speaker 04 You fuck? Because, because of the beast?
24:22 Laci Mosley? No, no, like.
24:23 Speaker 04 You said do stuff with animals?
24:24 Laci Mosley? Oh my god, no, no.
24:26 Speaker 04 Heard it here first on Scam God.
24:27 Laci Mosley? No, no, oh my god.
24:28 Speaker 04 Mr. Beast be fucking the animals.
24:30 Laci Mosley? No.
24:33 Laci Mosley? No.
24:33 Speaker 04 They call me Mr. Beast.
24:35 Laci Mosley? Y'all are not gonna have me on TMZ again. I refute this. I refute this. No, no, but, but he like, he raises money and then he, he builds stuff in Africa, in the villages.
24:48 Speaker 04 Yeah, I seen him do good stuff. He like does like good pranks?
24:52 Laci Mosley? Yeah, he does pranks.
24:53 Speaker 04 He gives people money?
24:54 Laci Mosley? Yeah, sometimes he's like, for a million dollars or whatever, can you live in this grocery store for a month with no technology and alone?
25:02 Speaker 04 Yes.
25:03 Laci Mosley? Kind of in the dark, you know, he's like, put all these people in a room and see what happens. So like social experiments and stuff too. And he recently had the Beast Games, which performed really well on Amazon, where he got like thousands of people together and made them like compete for money, but they would like lose and like, it was almost like kinda Squid Game-esque. Like there was no violence, but it was like, they played one game where they had to build something with blocks, like a kid's game, and then if you lost, the floor dropped out from you.
25:27 Speaker 04 We are really headed towards a real life Hunger Games, and I think that's really depressing.
25:33 Laci Mosley? Yeah.
25:33 Speaker 04 Yeah.
25:34 Laci Mosley? We might already be there. Y'all gotta get to hell.
25:37 Speaker 04 No, I'm not volunteering as trivia.
25:39 Laci Mosley? No, absolutely not. I would be way in the back. They're gonna need comedians during the Hunger Games, so we like, so y'all still hungry out there? Or what? The one thing that I hate about somebody from the Capitol.
25:56 Laci Mosley? You know when you be from the Capitol?
26:00 Laci Mosley? Capitol people are like. Everybody in District like, oh, no, no, no, no, no. Y'all know what I'm saying? Hamburger, but not for y'all, 'cause you're starving.
26:10 Speaker 04 Not in District 12, okay? Okay?
26:13 Laci Mosley? We know y'all ain't eating. In District 7, we got a crack or something, but y'all down bad.
26:19 Speaker 04 Not hamburger.
26:24 Laci Mosley? Okay, look, shout out, look, y'all remember that when they come for us, okay? We'll be in the back doing USO.
26:30 Speaker 04 Entertaining, valuable.
26:31 Laci Mosley? Okay, joy is important when we're in the wars, okay? Just remember that.
26:36 Speaker 04 Oh, boy.
26:37 Laci Mosley? So, the Las Vegas Hotel and Casino Complex Resorts World, previously the site of several scams, including the Mr. Beast Experience, where people, like, people love Mr. Beast. That's why I'm like, the Beastie girlies don't come for me, okay? Y'all, I don't got nothing bad to say about that man, I don't know him. But the Mr. Beast Experience, basically, they had people come, they paid a more inflated rate for hotel tickets at Resorts World, and they were supposed to get immersive experiences like ones that Mr. Beast creates, and there was supposed to be a Mr. Beast pool party. I think that some people were told that he was gonna come and beast, that he was gonna beast there.
27:14 Laci Mosley? He's supposed to have, like, exclusive merch for everybody in their hotel rooms. And all they ended up getting was, like, some chocolate, 'cause he has a chocolate out now. And I actually did pick it up once by accident, 'cause it's got a very, like, light blue teal label, and I was like, this looks new and fun? And then I was like, what, and I was like, nah! It was like a jump scare when I read the package when I got home. But, you know, I ate on it a little bit.
27:34 Speaker 04 Okay, you nibbled.
27:35 Laci Mosley? It was a crunch bar.
27:38 Speaker 04 It's so wild when things happen and I just miss them, like. I have not even, yeah.
27:42 Laci Mosley? Yeah, they're called Feastables. Feastables. Yeah, he also had a Lunchable that was healthy, but then the Lunchable started to get rotten. But anyways, so, like, Resorts World hosts a lot of, like, kinda sketchy events. And so we keep finding Resorts Worlds at the center of scams in Las Vegas, which is curious. Maybe it has nothing to do with Resorts World. Maybe. So this is where the steroid games are gonna be taking place in May of 2026. Sports and health experts alike say, this is a bad idea.
28:15 Speaker 04 Yeah, you don't say.
28:17 Laci Mosley? I was shocked when they said that, cuz I thought it was a good idea.
28:20 Speaker 04 It was a perfect idea.
28:22 Laci Mosley? Immediately, I was like, great idea? Get people on drugs and make them do physical activities?
28:29 Speaker 04 But it is a drug for physical activities.
28:31 Laci Mosley? This is true.
28:32 Speaker 04 It's not like the crackhead games, although I would like to see that.
28:36 Laci Mosley? Okay, cuz the strength of crackheads and the lifelongevity? I really feel like you gotta have like a window washing competition, like all types of scaling a building.
28:44 Speaker 04 How quickly you can hook up this flat screen?
28:46 Laci Mosley? Right.
28:47 Speaker 04 Or take it down?
28:49 Laci Mosley? How many VCRs can you take? Can you carry? You know, yes, these are things that could be done. Um, so his villain origin story, now we're going back to the Australian lawyer, Aaron. In 2009, Aaron was a first-year lawyer, like law student, at Oxford, with nothing particularly exciting going on. He was just at Oxford, which is a great school. Then he met billionaire Peter Thiel, the co-founder of PayPal and business partner of the one Lotte Musk.
29:23 Laci Mosley? Yeah, Peter Thiel, notoriously good guy that everyone loves and everyone thinks he's great for the country. Um, obviously, I'm not being sincere. So Aaron and Thiel became best friends quickly, partly because Aaron gave Peter a plan to take revenge on Gawker Media. So Peter hated Gawker because they outed him as gay in 2007. I'm on Peter's side with that one. The title says Peter Thiel.
29:50 Speaker 04 It's totally gay people. Honestly, iconic.
29:56 Laci Mosley? Honic.
29:57 Speaker 04 Is that like from Mean Girls? It feels very.
29:59 Laci Mosley? It's from Mean Girls. They used like a high school photo of this man. Why is the Gawker like headline all in like in the rainbow? Why would they do this?
30:09 Speaker 04 That's a drive it home.
30:10 Laci Mosley? Wild.
30:10 Speaker 04 Ay ay ay.
30:12 Laci Mosley? They are very unserious for this and and also like, come on now Gawker. This is, this is wild, but at the same time also hilarious. If we're gonna be outed, like at least it was.
30:21 Speaker 04 It's in the funniest way. I don't support outing people, but this is the funniest way to be. If I was outed that way, I would be like, well, I mean, that's funny.
30:30 Laci Mosley? Yes.
30:31 Speaker 04 Totally gay people.
30:33 Laci Mosley? Like, dude, I don't even know how mad I can be about that. Okay, but so obviously Peter does not fuck with Gawker. Then there was the Hulk Hogan sex tape.
30:45 Speaker 04 I do remember that.
30:45 Laci Mosley? Yes. So Aaron outlined a plan to secretly fund wrestler Hulk Hogan's lawsuit against Gawker, which had published a sex tape without Hogan's consent.
30:55 Speaker 04 Gawker was in everybody's business. God damn.
30:58 Laci Mosley? We were.
30:58 Speaker 04 That's wild.
30:59 Laci Mosley? And I just know Hulk Hogan is looking up right now.
31:02 Speaker 04 For a minute, watching Hulk Hogan have sex in a cannibal bed is not safe for work, but watch it anyway. They were sassy over there at Gawker. That's funny.
31:10 Laci Mosley? They were wild. And look, they said gawk at it. They were giving us things to gawk at. So far I've been gawking.
31:15 Speaker 04 That room looks dirty. Oh, no, that's Hulk Hogan. I thought that was cluttered.
31:19 Laci Mosley? No, no.
31:20 Speaker 04 That's really funny.
31:21 Laci Mosley? That's a person. A person debatable. Um, but yeah, that is him. Yeah, I don't, I would never even want to see Hulk Hogan do sex to someone. That feels like a punishment, Gawker.
31:31 Speaker 04 Disgusting. Also, I know he's dead and.
31:34 Laci Mosley? But he was a terrible man.
31:35 Speaker 04 I don't really give a shit, but I just, there's no amount of money that you could pay me to fuck that.
31:43 Laci Mosley? No.
31:43 Speaker 04 That man is very ugly to me.
31:46 Laci Mosley? He's ugly inside and out, and he probably called you all types of river cones and stuff, because he was very racist.
31:51 Speaker 04 Very creative. Is that an honor? Isn't that, was that the tape or was it a different tape where he like got, they found out he was saying like all these slurs and stuff?
32:00 Laci Mosley? It was a different tape where he was talking about his daughter Brooke Hogan, who at this time was trying to make a pop career. And, um, and he was talking about, well, if she's gonna fuck a N word, like then he need to be rich and an eight foot tall basketball player. You know, I hate the nigga. Everybody's a little bit racist. Like, it was very, yeah.
32:17 Speaker 04 That's tough.
32:18 Laci Mosley? I mean, he lived in Clearwater, Florida till he died. And shout out to Clearwater, Florida. We know what you are.
32:26 Speaker 04 But that's the lady in the sex tape?
32:27 Laci Mosley? Yeah, and like, why, at least they gave her a better photo when they posted. But, but also, you shouldn't be posting people's sex tapes. And you really shouldn't be posting Hulk Hogan's, like, because why would you do that to the community? Why would you do that to all of us? We're hurt. I'm more hurt than him. I also would like some 10 million. But for all my writer friends who write for Gawker, like, I'm so sorry to see y'all have to go down like this. It took multiple years and $10 million of secretly funding the lawsuit, but Peter Thiel and won, and Gawker folded in 2016, so they did get rid of Gawker. They sued him under the ground. They sued him.
33:02 Speaker 04 Well, I mean, not to, like, victim blame, but if you're going after someone with that, who created PayPal, who has that much money?
33:11 Laci Mosley? Yeah.
33:12 Speaker 04 I mean, that's kind of wild.
33:14 Laci Mosley? Yeah. I feel like they would've got away with Totally Gay, but Aaron was the one who was like, oh, if we get Hulk Hogan involved with this, like, legal case of the explicit sex tape, which is illegal, then we really have a case. I feel like Totally Gay wasn't enough, though. The judge was like, get out of here.
33:30 Speaker 04 Like, well, you are, so.
33:31 Laci Mosley? I'm looking at you, so.
33:33 Speaker 04 What's the argument?
33:34 Laci Mosley? But did they lie, though?
33:37 Laci Mosley? The judge is Judge Judy, he's like, did they lie, though? Did they lie? And, so, yeah, no, they needed the strength of Hulk's creepy tape that haunts the internet, I'm sure, somewhere. So, in the sex tape, Hulk Hogan is doing it with his friend and radio personality, Bubba the Love Sponge's wife, Heather Cole. But Bubba, I'm sorry.
33:59 Speaker 04 What?
33:59 Laci Mosley? That was like, Bubba the Love Sponge.
34:04 Speaker 04 Bubba the Love Sponge's wife?
34:08 Laci Mosley? And Heather Cole, that was that lady.
34:10 Speaker 04 Bubba the Love Sponge? You know, I'm not surprised that's Bubba the Love Sponge.
34:16 Laci Mosley? And, look, it says Playboy TV in the back, so he's at a love event, or a sex event.
34:21 Speaker 04 Yeah, there's no love there. A love sponge?
34:24 Laci Mosley? He's there to sponge it up.
34:26 Speaker 04 He's sopping up the cum?
34:26 Laci Mosley? No!
34:27 Speaker 04 Yeah.
34:28 Laci Mosley? Oh, he's sopping up the love, the love.
34:31 Speaker 04 He's just sopping it up.
34:33 Laci Mosley? He's not a giver. He's not gonna eat nobody out. No, he's just sopping. It was Bubba the Love Sponge's wife, Heather Cole, who was featured in the Hulk tape. But Bubba was the one who actually directed the video of his wife with the, with that man. Like, oh, brother. The whole time, he's just like, oh, brother. Brother, brother. No, that's terrible.
34:58 Speaker 04 Interesting. This is awful. Yeah. I came here for a nice time. Yeah, I'm like. I was told we were gonna talk about. I feel dirty.
35:06 Laci Mosley? We're gonna get out of it. We're getting back to it.
35:09 Speaker 04 And you said, let's talk about this nasty, shriveled, now dead, raisin looking man.
35:15 Laci Mosley? We're moving on.
35:16 Speaker 04 Fucking bubba the love sponge's wife going, oh, brother. That's nasty.
35:20 Laci Mosley? It's just a part of the lore.
35:21 Speaker 04 I started today really nice. I had some eggs. I had, I had a lavender frappuccino from Starbucks. Ooh. Crazy. It's purple. That's the only reason why I ordered it. Started my day nice with egg soubed bites, a lavender frappuccino. Didn't drink it all. Wanted to save some for later, but it's not in the refrigerator, so I can't drink it.
35:41 Laci Mosley? I'm sorry about that.
35:42 Speaker 04 I'm sorry about that. This is horse shit.
35:43 Laci Mosley? I'm so, I'm so sorry.
35:45 Speaker 04 My god.
35:46 Laci Mosley? So sorry. Look, we're gonna get it back on track, guys, okay? Robbery.
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38:51 Laci Mosley? So Aaron also happens to be gay. That's just a coincidence. I don't know. We're just throwing it in there. Wait, who? The lawyer. The lawyer. Oh, OK. But he didn't help Peter deal out of queer camaraderie. He wasn't like, come here, like, you know, sis, we're gonna take him down. It was just a way for him to make his mark, according to one quote. So he was just helping Peter because Peter obviously had PayPal and he was like trying to get paid by Pal or with Pal, near Pal. So the enhanced games. We're back on track, OK? We just had to take a little detour. We're back to Nicole, I'm sorry.
39:18 Speaker 04 Thank you.
39:19 Laci Mosley? So Aaron was obviously an ideas man and had lots of ideas after the Hulk Hogan sex tape lawsuit. He worked as a diplomat, venture capitalist, philanthropist, and etc. Until 2022, when he got the idea for the enhanced game. So you know how you go from like being a diplomat to being a VC, to being a philanthropist, to then making steroids games in Vegas. Cause it's our natural segue.
39:45 Speaker 04 Natural progression.
39:46 Laci Mosley? Yes. He devils. He devils, okay? He's a serial entrepreneur. That's what I call some scammers. So he didn't get the idea out of nowhere. He actually stole it.
39:54 Speaker 04 Oh. That's wild that more than one person had this thought.
40:01 Speaker 04 It would never cross my mind to be like, let's juice everybody and make them run.
40:05 Laci Mosley? Wild. I feel like watching the Olympics, I would be like, hmm, what if they were all on it?
40:10 Speaker 04 No, my thing is I want to see normal people try to do the same thing.
40:14 Laci Mosley? Same, same. I want to see normal people try to get their butt over the pole. You know what I mean? And just see it fail categorically. That's what I need to see. So he actually stole it from a 2004 issue of Wired magazine called "Steroids for Everyone", that outlined the case for enhanced Olympics using almost exactly the same argument. Is this like, people are gonna use steroids anyway, let's just give steroids out for everyone. You get a roid, you get a roid. So the article said, "Public attitudes towards steroids were starting to shift after years of stigma", okay? So following their muses by athletes and state sponsorship regimes in the 80s and 90s, people might now be open to doping. They were like, you know what? Give them the dope and let's see what's gonna happen. Like you said earlier, Nicole, like, I know that you're not a proponent of the steroids,
40:59 Laci Mosley? but it would be interesting to see what happens.
41:01 Speaker 04 Yeah, let's see what happens.
41:03 Laci Mosley? So Aaron was spending every New Year's Eve with Peter Thiel in friend group. I'm calling Thiel, that's how it reads. I know it's Thiel, but I don't care about that man. So on New Year's, he mentioned this new idea and Peter liked it. I mean, Peter has PayPal money. What else is he gonna do? Yeah, truly, have a nice time.
41:19 Speaker 04 I'll throw this, throw my money at this thing.
41:21 Laci Mosley? Right, why not? I feel like once you're that rich, it's like you're at the casino when it comes to like startups. She's like, pull it here, pull it there, put a little something on you. So Aaron tried pitching it to investors, including notable sports cheater and testicular cancer survivor Lance Armstrong. Oh, but, but don't bring him in this.
41:40 Speaker 04 Why not? He was on steroids, winning with his Livestrong bracelet.
41:44 Laci Mosley? Oh, we all had a Livestrong bracelet.
41:47 Speaker 04 That was fun.
41:49 Laci Mosley? He had a piece of plastic on everybody's wrist, bro.
41:53 Speaker 04 While he was secretly doping. But how did he like, keep it hidden for so long? That's the wildest part.
41:59 Laci Mosley? I think maybe the cancer a little bit, because he was a cancer survivor. I feel like of testicular cancer, maybe he was getting tested and they were like, oh, we're seeing some roids. And we're like, uh-uh, no, that was, that was residual chemo.
42:10 Speaker 04 Yeah, interesting.
42:12 Laci Mosley? Or it might have been that he was like in remission. He's Lance Armstrong, so maybe he could find a way to get the pee in. And, and it's not his. I'm sure when you're that famous and rich, they can put something warm on your leg and you just like push it or something. Maybe.
42:27 Speaker 04 Maybe, probably.
42:28 Laci Mosley? And then some clean pee comes out.
42:29 Speaker 04 There are things that you can use to pee clean.
42:33 Laci Mosley? Yeah, he gets like, he puts in a catheter real quick or something. I don't know.
42:36 Speaker 04 Lord.
42:37 Laci Mosley? I mean, for that amount of money, you know.
42:39 Speaker 04 Yeah, do you.
42:40 Laci Mosley? So, but I hate that his now name is like notable sports cheater.
42:44 Speaker 04 I know. You do one wrong thing.
42:47 Laci Mosley? You do one, you do one roid. One little roid. For his whole career. Now I'm notable sports cheater.
42:54 Speaker 04 From all his like medals and titles and stuff?
42:57 Laci Mosley? Well, he won the Tour de France seven consecutive times and he was stripped of all the titles after an investigation.
43:05 Laci Mosley? Found that he had been using illegal performance enhancing drugs that increased red blood cell production. He is currently banned for life from all bicycling. He can't ride any bicycles.
43:14 Speaker 04 He can't go to Santa Monica and ride a bike.
43:16 Laci Mosley? The city bike declining. He swiped the car, they're like, Lance, is that you?
43:20 Speaker 04 Sorry Lance, wait a minute.
43:22 Laci Mosley? You can never be on two wheels again Lance.
43:26 Speaker 04 But that is so depressing for the people who were second those seven times. Because they never got like a ceremony. They should have had a ceremony and been like, gather round. He stripped, you're number one, you're number two, and now guy that no one...
43:40 Laci Mosley? And talked about you're number three.
43:42 Speaker 04 Yeah. They should have done that.
43:44 Laci Mosley? I mean, they still lost technically in my eyes. What, he had some extra red blood like?
43:51 Speaker 04 Yeah, he was cheating. So you love the enhanced games. Yes. You're pro enhanced games.
43:58 Laci Mosley? I'm just pro Lance Armstrong, winning seven Tour de France's back to back and us just believing the lore. Okay, what good does it do for us to know that Bobby what's-his-face actually was third? We don't give a fuck about Bobby.
44:09 Speaker 04 But Bobby's at home saying, if only people knew.
44:13 Laci Mosley? And we know now and we still don't give a fuck about Bobby. Nobody called Bobby.
44:17 Speaker 04 I want to know what Bobby's up to. Yeah.
44:22 Laci Mosley? So even Lance said no to Aaron's ideas, even though he did steroids, but he was like, no. But it was an opportunity for him to rebrand. He could have owned it.
44:32 Speaker 04 But like, that's not a good rebrand.
44:35 Speaker 04 I'm a bad guy. I feel like anytime that happens, it's like, ew.
44:39 Laci Mosley? Yeah, but that's because they go to 4chan. He would just be rebranded to like, I did steroids, they were delicious.
44:45 Speaker 04 Yum, yum, yum. Mine were cherry flavored.
44:47 Laci Mosley? Yeah, so maybe not so bad.
44:50 Speaker 04 I like that he didn't. I like that he was like, you know, I'm gonna sit this one out.
44:54 Laci Mosley? He took his lumps. And I kind of appreciate, yeah, he stood in his business. I hope they didn't take his money away. I'm sure they didn't.
44:59 Speaker 04 Do you think he like rides around like a bike on his estate? Do you think he still rides a bike or he like opens a door to a room with just one bike in it? Cries.
45:10 Laci Mosley? Sometimes it's just next to it with a bottle of bourbon, just spinning the wheels.
45:14 Speaker 04 How do we get to Lance Armstrong? I'd like to know.
45:16 Laci Mosley? So because Lance was gonna be an investor in the steroid games, but Lance said absolutely not. So that's how we got to him. So we're back on track. So Lance said no to Aaron's idea. That's the lawyer. So Aaron launched a website for the enhanced games by himself, posting a 34 second stock footage clip of a sprinter in the blocks. With a voiceover declaring that he was the fastest man in the world and a proud enhanced athlete. Now they got a brand. They're enhanced.
45:45 Laci Mosley? He's a proud enhanced athlete. That got investors interested. Investors love the video, including Christian Ong, I cannot say this name, Christian Ongemeyer. Christian Ongermeier. There we go. A German Ongermeier. There we go. A German biotech billionaire who came on board as a co-founder. We know Germany's gonna get involved. Y'all said steroids, they should wear.
46:11 Laci Mosley? Oh, Taunton? Yes, Taylor Taunton. Yeah, so neither Peter Thiel, Aaron, nor Christian are huge sports fans. They were like, "We're three gay guys," Aaron says. But they're all focused on being rich, so they have that in common.
46:25 Speaker 04 Wait, that was said by one of them on the record?
46:27 Laci Mosley? Yeah.
46:27 Speaker 04 "We three gays are interested in making the money."
46:30 Laci Mosley? "We're three gay guys and we're interested in making money."
46:32 Speaker 04 Well, you know what? That's honesty for you.
46:34 Laci Mosley? Right?
46:35 Speaker 04 Yeah.
46:35 Laci Mosley? Yeah. Enhance Games at Pride?
46:39 Laci Mosley? I hope not.
46:39 Speaker 04 I mean, cringe, cringe, cringe. Why not? A Pride Enhance Games?
46:44 Laci Mosley? Sure. I think that's what we already have in WeHo. So Enhance Games also got millions of dollars in investment from Donald Trump Jr.'s
46:54 Laci Mosley? Donald Trump Jr.'s 1789 Capital, that's what his company's called. And they got praise from thought leader Joe Rogan.
47:02 Speaker 04 Sure.
47:03 Laci Mosley? I can see that. So these endorsements sound really good. We got the Trumps involved, we got Joe Rogan, famously told people to take ivermectin. So he definitely knows what to put in your body. Yes, this is all seeming legit. So the pros of the Enhance Games are pretty limited. But they will pay athletes, which is a problem in the regular Olympics. That's true. They don't get paid.
47:28 Speaker 04 But they do, don't they? Don't they get stipends or something?
47:30 Laci Mosley? 59% of US Olympians make less than $25,000 in an Olympic year.
47:35 Speaker 04 Oh, okay.
47:36 Laci Mosley? Yeah.
47:37 Speaker 04 Dang.
47:38 Laci Mosley? And the Enhance Games offer athletes an appearance fee and rank-based prize money. Athletes who break the official world records are also in line to claim $250,000 or higher if it's a worthwhile publicity stunt. You make it exciting.
47:53 Speaker 04 If you don't die jumping off this building, you can stand to make a big old chunk of change.
47:59 Laci Mosley? If your thighs don't explode in front of our eyes.
48:01 Speaker 04 If your thighs don't explode.
48:03 Laci Mosley? In front of our eyes.
48:03 Speaker 04 If your bones stay in your body, you can make money.
48:08 Laci Mosley? And obviously, like, these are not good ideas, right? Like, doctors, definitely not for it. The worry about premature aging that might happen to people when they come off drugs. And others think that the event might cause steroid use to spread, first throughout the sport, then through society at large. Because you know, like, the kids are on the internet and they don't got no media literacy. So they might start, you know.
48:31 Speaker 04 And that's exactly what we need. Illiterate people with anger management problems who think they're entitled to everything on steroids.
48:40 Speaker 04 I think this is the pipeline to a utopia.
48:44 Laci Mosley? Yeah, no, no, the site is gonna be great.
48:46 Speaker 04 Yeah.
48:46 Laci Mosley? Not scarier at all.
48:48 Speaker 04 I feel safe. Yeah.
48:49 Laci Mosley? You feel safe?
48:50 Speaker 04 Yeah. Yeah.
48:52 Laci Mosley? Okay, but Nicole, what if they come up to you and they say like, we wanna do a little lift for you? We have a lift for you.
48:57 Speaker 04 A lift?
48:57 Laci Mosley? Yeah, like they had a song for you in Africa, like these people have like a lift they wanna do for you.
49:02 Speaker 04 They're gonna show you a lift?
49:03 Laci Mosley? They're gonna show you a lift.
49:03 Speaker 04 Oh, I was like, a lift? A ski lift? Am I being taken? I was like, well, it depends on where I'm going. Sure, I mean, it depends. It depends on where I am. If I'm on the streets of Las Vegas and someone's like, do you wanna see me lift a bunch of weight? I'd probably be like, okay, yes.
49:22 Laci Mosley? Sure.
49:23 Speaker 04 But then if I was like, I'm on steroids, I'd be like, ah, maybe I'm not into this, I don't know. I don't know.
49:28 Laci Mosley? They may not tell you, though. They may not be like, I'm on steroids, hello.
49:32 Speaker 04 They might not know.
49:33 Laci Mosley? That's not opening to the bitch. Yeah, so this was all kind of, you know, up in the air because obviously this is not like a good thing to do. The enhanced games have no official sponsors, no. Shocking.
49:45 Speaker 04 Wow, Gatorade doesn't wanna get in on that?
49:48 Laci Mosley? No, right now they don't. They're going like Gatorade now with a little bit of Royd. Gator Royd.
49:54 Speaker 04 This would be a perfect opportunity for Powerade.
49:56 Laci Mosley? Power.
49:57 Speaker 04 Yeah.
49:59 Laci Mosley? We're Royd. Sounds like more of a prime thing to me.
50:01 Speaker 04 What's prime? What's prime?
50:03 Laci Mosley? That's Logan Paul's.
50:06 Laci Mosley? Prime, for those of you who know that, who that little man is.
50:09 Speaker 04 The little man.
50:11 Laci Mosley? So US Swimming even sent a letter to athletes warning them against competing. The worldwide aquatics and the athletes would still be banned for joining the enhanced games, even if they competed without taking drugs. So they said, don't you take your ass over there.
50:23 Speaker 04 Yeah, don't even. Yeah, don't even be tempted. Don't be associated.
50:26 Laci Mosley? Don't think about it.
50:27 Speaker 04 Yeah.
50:28 Laci Mosley? So currently, let's see some notable athletes. Currently, only four swimmers have signed up publicly to compete in the enhanced games. Australian swimmer James Magnuson, who's retired from swimming in 2019, but on a sports podcast, he said, if they put up a million dollars for the free meter freestyle world record, I'd come on board as their first athlete. I'll juice to the grills and break the world record within six months.
50:53 Speaker 04 Oh, God.
50:54 Laci Mosley? Yup, juice to the gills.
50:56 Speaker 04 Juice to the gills. I like to the grills. That's what I really liked. I was like, oh, okay.
51:01 Laci Mosley? He say he gonna juice so hard at swimming, he gonna become a fish.
51:05 Speaker 04 It's really funny. All the pictures of the people you've shown, no one has surprised me. I believe that man said that.
51:11 Laci Mosley? He looks like a guy who would say that his hair, like, how do you have, like, he must have got to be glued to that. Because how are you just swimming and your hair is still standing up straight? Like, what is happening?
51:21 Speaker 04 Like a Backstreet Boy. Yes, very that.
51:23 Laci Mosley? What kind of pomade do you have in there, sir?
51:25 Speaker 04 It's got to be.
51:26 Laci Mosley? It has to be got to be. It's got to be, got to be.
51:28 Speaker 04 Got to be, got to be.
51:30 Laci Mosley? That was a free ad for you, got to be. So, Aaron agreed to the million dollar prize and James started the protocol of training slash injecting. So James is on the protocol. He's getting ready for 2026.
51:42 Speaker 04 Yeah.
51:44 Laci Mosley? Heck. So he's taking testosterone to boost muscle mass and bone density, peptides. I feel like I shouldn't be reading out what these things are so that y'all can go Google them and get on them. But I don't know. I heard some celebrities take a certain, like, um, like, GHB. Or no, that's, that's, they do take that, but that's not the thing I'm talking about.
52:03 Speaker 04 You're talking about human growth hormone.
52:04 Laci Mosley? Human growth hormone. There we go. The, the other thing is not what I'm talking about. HGB.
52:09 Speaker 04 HG, human growth, HG.
52:13 Laci Mosley? HGH.
52:16 Speaker 04 I just really shut down. HGH, HG, HGTV.
52:26 Laci Mosley? No, we're all there. We're all struggling right there with you.
52:29 Speaker 04 I thought a little too hard and almost died.
52:33 Laci Mosley? Well, yes, so they, they, you know, some people take, take a little enhancement. So the Australian man, who notoriously is gay and must let us know, Aaron, he moved to LA to do it because Australian pools banned him from training. So he moved James to LA. James put on 30 pounds of muscle, which was actually not helpful for a swimmer, as it turns out.
52:55 Speaker 04 He sank to the bottom. Funny.
52:57 Laci Mosley? Here's him before and after. So we have before he started the, oh!
53:01 Speaker 04 Oh, no.
53:01 Laci Mosley? Oh, my God!
53:03 Speaker 04 Oh.
53:03 Laci Mosley? Oh!
53:05 Speaker 04 He's a little lollipop.
53:06 Laci Mosley? His muscles have muscles. This is like a reverse BBL. Like, you've got a BBL on, on your upper back.
53:12 Speaker 04 I am blown away.
53:14 Laci Mosley? How can I?
53:15 Speaker 04 I see the back of your chest from the front, sir. It's like a stretch Armstrong. Yes, and he probably has a hard time moving his arms to fucking swim. Look at that neck. It's just straight, just straight down. He looks like a thumb. Mm hmm. Yes. Yeah. Looks like he has titties on his back. Yes. Like a lot of them. Yeah, he's got back breasts and, and, oh no. Wow. I'm blown away.
53:42 Laci Mosley? I, I did not think I could be as shocked as I am. So we will put that on the Instagram because it is a jump scare. This man, he does not, he looks like the Hulk. He looks like he's gonna be like Hulk smash, not like water smash. Like, how is he gonna be swimming?
53:57 Speaker 04 He won't.
53:57 Laci Mosley? By the time he gets to the end of the pool, all the water gonna be out.
54:00 Speaker 04 Truly.
54:01 Laci Mosley? Just pounding it, just every, every, every stroke is a cannonball. What?
54:06 Speaker 04 He also looks dumber. Yeah, his mouth open. Yeah, he went from closed mouth, eye contact to. No. Like, is your mouth on the Roy's too? The can close lips. Is he married? I'm worried about his partner.
54:21 Laci Mosley? Oh, yeah. I hope not, I really hope not.
54:25 Speaker 04 I would also really like to see what the bottom of him looks like. It's the same, the swimmer legs. Yeah, the middle part looks normal.
54:33 Laci Mosley? Yeah, it really does look like his waist is still snatched like the original photo. It's just all up top.
54:38 Speaker 04 Oh.
54:38 Laci Mosley? It was never leg day.
54:40 Speaker 04 And do we have a time for him? Has it improved?
54:43 Laci Mosley? Oh, we don't know if his time has improved. We just know that his body has drastically changed. And there's another former Olympic swimmer, thirty, thirty swimmer, thirty-one-year-old Greek Bougeron. Um, he finished fifth in the fifty-meter freestyle event in Paris Olympics in twenty twenty-four. Did break the record, um, but he was on a better cocktail of drugs. And his new world record won't be officially registered due to those drugs. So this is somebody who did beat the record, but now he's disgraced because of the drugs.
55:12 Speaker 04 Enhanced.
55:13 Laci Mosley? So now he signed up for a man. I mean, why?
55:16 Speaker 04 He looks so sad, though. He's like, was it worth it?
55:19 Laci Mosley? I don't think it was. So wrapping this up here.
55:23 Speaker 04 Wow.
55:24 Laci Mosley? At the end of twenty twenty-four, Aaron held a conference in Oxford on human enhancement. So he took it back to the UK. He's holding, he's holding conferences.
55:32 Speaker 04 Went to his alma mater.
55:33 Laci Mosley? Apple events. So the speakers and supporters at the meeting signed the first declaration on human enhancement. So you heard of John Hancock.
55:47 Laci Mosley? We're taking it further. And look, this is such a enhancement looking photo. That's technology.
55:53 Speaker 04 They've ascended.
55:54 Laci Mosley? Yeah, I guess so.
55:55 Speaker 04 To their peak performance.
55:57 Laci Mosley? Doesn't that feel very technological to you?
56:00 Speaker 04 Sure. Yeah, or like enlightened. Yeah, he's like using his beautiful, human potential.
56:06 Laci Mosley? It's kind of giving me like advert for a cult.
56:09 Speaker 04 Yeah.
56:09 Laci Mosley? Yeah.
56:10 Speaker 04 For sure.
56:10 Laci Mosley? I know what I'm walking into.
56:12 Speaker 04 Yeah.
56:12 Laci Mosley? So the 39 people who signed this, they got 39 people at the conference.
56:17 Speaker 04 Mm-hmm.
56:18 Laci Mosley? I feel like I can get more emails outside of Walmart. But the 39 people who signed it, including Brian Johnson, the tech millionaire, who is trying to never die.
56:28 Speaker 04 I love him. Oh, yes. He's fun.
56:30 Laci Mosley? He looks like a stat.
56:31 Speaker 04 And sicker every time I see him.
56:34 Laci Mosley? Like, I just don't understand how trying to never die made you look like a daywalker.
56:38 Speaker 04 I don't know. I don't know.
56:41 Laci Mosley? I feel like you might be making yourself die, sir.
56:43 Speaker 04 Probably. Yeah. I was like, why do you want to live forever? It's not getting better.
56:47 Laci Mosley? It's not. It's really not great.
56:49 Speaker 04 When I'm out, I'm out. Oh, my God, bring it on. Take me out.
56:54 Laci Mosley? Somebody was talking about NASA seeing some unidentified, maybe like aggressive alien, like, uh, life forces in the universe. And everybody was like, well, tell them to hurry up.
57:03 Speaker 04 Yes, take me.
57:05 Laci Mosley? Yeah, damn, yeah, beat me up. Where are we going?
57:07 Speaker 04 I feel like Erykah Badu sometimes, there's a, she like has a video where she's like, I've been so weird because I want them to take me. I don't know what more I need to do for them to come take me. And that's how I feel. I feel like I'm like kind of weird. Come take me. I'll make you laugh up there.
57:22 Laci Mosley? Yes. We will take the Hunger Games routine.
57:26 Speaker 04 Right up to them.
57:27 Laci Mosley? Up to them.
57:28 Speaker 04 Will they understand it? No.
57:29 Laci Mosley? Okay. But like aliens from Sector 7 be like, boo boo, blah blah, please, Lord. Okay. No, but so. There were longevity doctors who signed it, enhanced staff members. Now, if I worked there, why I gotta sign it? That don't count.
57:43 Speaker 04 No. It's like a birthday card. They're like, everyone in the break room. That's so funny. Yeah, just sign it and you can have a piece of cake.
57:51 Laci Mosley? Don't worry about it what it's for. Yeah. You only get the cake when you sign it. And the cake has steroids.
57:57 Laci Mosley? Oh goodness, so he also got bodybuilding influencer, Mr. Virago Steve. Um, I think we have a photo of Virago Steve. That's him and he signed it because he definitely is not on any enhancements. Those grapefruits that he's smuggling in his legs are definitely his calves and nothing else. Um, but yeah, so these people who look very smart and sane and with it, they all signed, the 39 people, we're gonna, in the future, we'll call them the 39.
58:28 Speaker 04 The 39.
58:29 Laci Mosley? Who started it all.
58:30 Speaker 04 Yeah.
58:31 Laci Mosley? And so Aaron is also announcing the launch of Enhanced Performance Products, which sounds to me like penis pills. But, um, in this case, it's TRT. It's a new line of supplements inspired by the ones athletes will be taking to prepare for the games.
58:45 Speaker 04 Inspired?
58:47 Speaker 02 Not if I want a drug.
58:48 Speaker 04 Inspired? So what, it's a pill that you take that's not a steroid, but you, it's like, it feels like a steroid. It's like a placebo.
58:56 Laci Mosley? Yeah, I never got some, some drug, but was inspired by Botox.
59:01 Laci Mosley? It gives you the feeling.
59:02 Speaker 04 But what if it's like inspirational, where it's like, it's, it's actually like, it is a placebo. They're like full of sugar or something, but not actually steroids. And then when you do improve, it's like, see? See? It was the power of you. It was the power of you. Yeah, when you, at the bottom of the bottle, it says, it was the power of you all along.
59:22 Laci Mosley? And look, they be going to the gym more regularly because they're taking their little pills.
59:25 Speaker 04 It's working, it's working. It's like, see, you didn't actually need it. All you needed was yourself.
59:29 Laci Mosley? All you needed was yourself. This whole thing is inspired. Now we're, have we done a 180 and we're back on the spin side?
59:34 Speaker 04 Now we love it. We love it now.
59:36 Laci Mosley? Yes, I don't, I don't know about these, the performance enhancing products. I don't know about any of this. I don't know. How do you guys feel about this guy? Before we leave, um, Aaron and, and his, and what he's done for the community.
59:50 Speaker 04 Community.
59:51 Laci Mosley? I don't mean, I don't. Me and the queer community.
59:55 Speaker 04 I was wondering.
59:56 Laci Mosley? You can also respond to that.
59:57 Speaker 04 It is interesting that they're like, we're three gay men who aren't doing this for our gay, our community, but just the money. But it feels like maybe they were all bullied by these kind of people when they were younger.
1:00:09 Laci Mosley? So they're trying to kill them?
1:00:11 Speaker 04 Yeah, maybe. They're like, yeah, roid up. Go for it. Go the distance. I'll give you all the drugs.
1:00:19 Speaker 04 Go for it. See what happens. And they're like, that's plotting and planning. I mean, it's wild what rich people will do. Like, feed people, build homes. Yeah. Do philanthropy, like. Yeah. And then do entertainment later. But also, this is not entertainment. This is so wild. You're fucking with people's lives. Yeah. I think that's just the most wildest part. But like, I guess I'll go. That being said. That being said. I will be there. If it happens. May 2026. I will probably go.
1:00:52 Laci Mosley? I did hear you were the headliner for the set that's happening there.
1:00:56 Speaker 04 I will be doing standup in between people having roid rages and breaking bones.
1:01:01 Laci Mosley? Yeah, they said that was gonna like help keep the vibes up.
1:01:04 Speaker 04 You're standing in a puddle of blood. Actually, I'm not even doing standup. I pivoted. I'm gonna launch my musical career. I will be singing at the enhancement games. That's the place to do it. May as well. No rules.
1:01:14 Laci Mosley? No rules.
1:01:15 Speaker 04 No, no shame either. What is happening?
1:01:18 Laci Mosley? Right. Everything. That question is what is happening to everything. So that is the perfect way.
1:01:22 Speaker 04 Mariah Carey will also be there. She'll be shooting glitter too. Like, we're just gonna like, turn it, turn the world on its head.
1:01:28 Laci Mosley? We're gonna do anything. And I love that. Okay? Thank you both so much for being here.
1:01:33 Speaker 04 Thank you for having us. This is very informative.
1:01:38 Laci Mosley? I do feel like we learned a lot today.
1:01:39 Speaker 04 Learned a lot. I really did learn a lot. I didn't want to know any of it, but now I know it.
1:01:44 Laci Mosley? Now you know it. We always ask on this podcast, where would you like to be found? So anything you want to plug, social media, obviously.
1:01:50 Speaker 04 Dead? In a ditch?
1:01:52 Laci Mosley? Why?
1:01:52 Speaker 04 In my house? Honestly, in a bed, surrounded by loved ones.
1:01:57 Laci Mosley? There's always a certain person who comes in here like Nathan Cress was like the La Brea Tar Pits, but like there was no, there was no break. I was like, where would you like to be found? He was like, the La Brea Tar Pits. That was too fast.
1:02:07 Speaker 04 That is wild. I don't want to be found outside because that means there was no care with my death. Yeah, that's true.
1:02:13 Laci Mosley? I want you to care enough to like hide me.
1:02:14 Speaker 04 Yeah, either natural causes surrounded by friends and family, or after a nationwide search off the coast of a very opulent, beautiful location. Yes. That sounds nice.
1:02:27 Laci Mosley? That sounds really nice. And in that case, like if I was like missing and I went missing for too long, I don't know if I would come back because I would kind of be a bummer. You know?
1:02:35 Speaker 04 Yeah, if Amelia Earhart came back. Everyone's moved on. Yeah, that's true. They stopped looking for her. Did she get, oh, okay. All right. Yeah.
1:02:43 Laci Mosley? She's like, I've been, I've been living a quaint life on an island. We're like, that's not as inspiring. Would you mind going back?
1:02:49 Speaker 04 Yeah, go back, go back over there. Where do you want to be found? Next to you. Oh, my God. I do hope we die at similar times. That'd be nice. Yeah, I don't want to live without you.
1:03:02 Speaker 04 I want you to burst into tears.
1:03:04 Laci Mosley? Oh, my God. That's really beautiful. I would be so sad. We didn't have to choose.
1:03:12 Laci Mosley? That's really beautiful.
1:03:13 Speaker 04 Oh, my God. Who would I text at 1 a.m. about an idea that's already been done?
1:03:22 Laci Mosley? This is beautiful. Oh, this friendship is not a scam, y'all. We know it. We see it. We love it.
1:03:29 Speaker 04 But yes, you can listen to our podcast, Best Friends, comes out every Wednesday. Starting on July 30th. 31st.
1:03:36 Laci Mosley? Oh, fuck. Yeah, so it is out now. So get into it. And they're
1:03:41 Speaker 04 I mean, it's the 30th. Yeah, it's 30th.
1:03:44 Laci Mosley? Oh, yeah. Yes.
1:03:47 Laci Mosley? I want y'all to have that win regardless. It's out now.
1:03:50 Speaker 04 It's out now.
1:03:51 Laci Mosley? It's out now, Best Friends. And as always, y'all, you can look at Scam Goddess Pod on Instagram to see all of these wonderful photos that will definitely give you, um, sleep paralysis. I'm so sorry about that. Um, and then you can follow me at D I V A L A C I D Velaci on all platforms. All of first season of Scam Goddess is streaming now on Hulu. You can watch the first season of Going Dutch on Hulu now. I'm going back to Ireland, guys. I might be in Ireland by the time this drops. So yes, um, let's get it. My book is available everywhere, audio and physical copy. And congregation, I really want you guys to get out there.
1:04:22 Laci Mosley? I want you to get out there. And do what? And do what? And stay enhanced. Keep enhancing your life. Whatever that means. You just gave him a slogan. You really did. Stay enhanced, stay us. No. Erin's gonna take it too.
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