Pod Insights Scam Goddess The Fake Texas Oil Tycoon w/ Brandon Kyle Goodman About this episode If you got unemployed roommates, put your headphones ON as today things get a lil' raunchy with Brandon Kyle Goodman, the host of the new "Tell Me Something Messy" podcast from iHeartMedia's Outspoken Podcast Network. Brandon helps us discuss Alan Todd May—a career criminal who started out committing check fraud and ended up hoodwinking investors out of millions by pretending he was an oil tycoon. Stay schemin'!
This story was primarily reported by Charles Bethea in his 2024 New Yorker article “The Fake Oilman”:
https://www.newyorker.com/news/letter-from-the-south/the-fake-oilman
Signed copies of Laci's book are back in stock on Podswag:
https://www.podswag.com/collections/scam-goddess/products/signed-scam-goddess-lessons-from-a-life-of-cons-grifts-and-schemes
Follow on Instagram:
Scam Goddess Pod: @scamgoddesspod
Laci Mosley: @divalaci
Brandon Kyle Goodman: @brandonkylegoodman
Research by Kate Doyle.
SOURCES:
https://www.newyorker.com/news/letter-from-the-south/the-fake-oilman
https://www.justice.gov/archive/usao/txn/PressRel12/may_sen_pr.html
https://www.courthousenews.com/dallas-man-gets-20-years-for-7-million-scam/
https://archives.fbi.gov/archives/dallas/press-releases/2010/dl120610.htm
https://www.cbsnews.com/colorado/news/colorado-fugitive-alan-todd-may-captured-florida-leading-posh-lifestyle-flaunting-wealth/
https://www.dallasobserver.com/news/alan-todd-may-once-a-fugitive-always-a-con-man-gets-20-years-for-ripping-off-investors-7131761
Transcript 12,382 words · 8 speakers
Speaker names marked ? are inferred from speaking time and the show’s known hosts — they are not voice-verified.
0:00 Speaker 00 OnDeck is built to back small businesses like yours. Whether you're buying equipment, expanding your team, or bridging cash flow gaps, OnDeck's loans, up to $400,000, help make it happen fast. Rated A+ by the Better Business Bureau and earning thousands of five-star TrustPilot reviews, OnDeck delivers funding you can count on. Apply in minutes at ondeck.com. Depending on certain loan attributes, your business loan may be issued by OnDeck or Celtic Bank. OnDeck does not lend in North Dakota. All loans and amounts subject to lender approval.
0:29 Speaker 01 Stop listening to your doctor and start listening to Good Science, the new comedy podcast hosted by RFK Junior, played by Anthony Atamanik from Comedy Central's The President Show. Extra strength causes extra strength autism. The Good Science Podcast tackles all of RFK Junior's fringe ideas. Babies love measles. Listen to the peptide of podcasts, Good Science, on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Listen or you'll die.
1:19 Laci Mosley? What's poppin', congregation? It's your girl, Lacey Mosley, AKA Scam Goddess, and I'm back with another installment of the podcast all about robbery, fraud, and those who practice it. Y'all, I'm back in the States. It's ghetto here, but we're back and we're here. Yes. And y'all already know that I'm very what? It's been over five years. Yes, excited, thrilled, elated. We have a friend on the show. Y'all already know when my friends come on the show what it's gonna be. But beyond being my friend, my guest today is a host, TV writer, and actor who you may know their work on Big Mouth on Netflix. Come on.
2:04 Laci Mosley? They also host Tell Me Something Messy, a new podcast from iHeart Media's Outspoken Podcast Network. It's an educational comedy podcast about sex that destroys the shame and normalizes curiosity, communication and compassion. And I want to just add here, if you're not on Brandon Kyle Goodman's Instagram, you're missing out. They are posting so many fun carousels with jokes and memes and photos and inspirational things. And also, tell me something messy. I may be wrong about this, so I'll ask Brandon. But I started watching messy stuff on their Instagram stories, which were wild. So I want to know if that was the origin of this.
2:44 Laci Mosley? But before that congregation, I am overjoyed to welcome back the Brandon Kyle Goodman. Hi.
2:54 Speaker 03 Hi. Oh, my God. What an introduction. Oh, it got me blushing.
3:00 Laci Mosley? Brandon. Okay, so first question.
3:04 Speaker 03 Yes, please.
3:04 Laci Mosley? Was that where Tell Me Something Messy came from?
3:07 Speaker 03 Yes, Messy Mondays on Instagram. Yeah, you know, because I was talking to people. Because in 2020, it started and everyone was at home. And I said, tell me something good or messy. And I really didn't know what I was going to get, but people were horny because they were at home. It was a pandemic.
3:21 Laci Mosley? Horny at home.
3:22 Speaker 03 Horny at home, I mean, which is what it should have been called horny at home. So I just started responding. And, you know, people have sent me some wild things. One of my favorites, Lacey, is somebody sent me a message saying that they found an envelope with their grandmother's pubes. And how they knew it was her pubes. But they're basically saying like she had like a roster. They think she was doing some witch work or something because there was like a list of men and her pubes in an envelope. It was a whole thing.
3:46 Laci Mosley? Wow.
3:48 Speaker 03 Messy, messy, messy, messy. And then, you know, and then I'll teach people how to give good blowjobs. That's why they call me messy mom because I teach you to love yourself and also how to give a better blowjob. Can I say blowjob here?
3:59 Laci Mosley? Yes, you can say anything here.
4:01 Speaker 03 Lovely. Yes. Teach you how to give head, which is great. So.
4:05 Laci Mosley? People need to learn these things.
4:06 Speaker 03 They need to.
4:08 Laci Mosley? They don't teach it anywhere. So how are people going to know? And then what are they going to do? Watch porn and that's going to warp their brain?
4:13 Speaker 03 And that's going to make it worse because the porn, they're not doing it the way it's supposed to do in porn. They're making, it's a fantasy of porn, you know?
4:20 Laci Mosley? I had to learn nobody was doing that. For the longest time, I didn't know people were having sex with the lights off. I was like, I did not know that.
4:27 Speaker 03 Right, like not full lighting, not full lighting, not full makeup. Yeah, people are, people keep the lights a little dim.
4:33 Laci Mosley? I was like, I'm a performer. I thought, I thought we were all doing this.
4:36 Speaker 03 You said overhead lighting on, right?
4:38 Laci Mosley? And somebody was like, no, you don't have to do that.
4:40 Speaker 03 So the ring light, you said, but you want, but, but the lighting.
4:44 Laci Mosley? I'm not filming anything, but when I did have sex, I thought it was lights on.
4:50 Speaker 03 I know, you know, lights off, or lights dim. I like that vibe.
4:54 Laci Mosley? Oh, like moody or like colored lights? Now I know people have those for the encounters.
4:58 Speaker 03 I bought colored lights for fucking, and then now also just for my movies, but.
5:02 Laci Mosley? I have so much to learn. I've been teaching people about scams and I didn't learn anything about sex.
5:08 Speaker 03 I teach about sex, you teach about scams, and listen, if you know about sex and scams, I feel like you're going to thrive in the world.
5:14 Laci Mosley? Truly.
5:15 Speaker 03 If you know how to fuck and how to avoid a scam, that's thrival.
5:18 Laci Mosley? Yeah, that's how we all come back from the pandemic.
5:23 Laci Mosley? These two podcasts, y'all, okay? Tell me something messy and scam guys. And then you will be healed, okay? Forget all that touch grass, forget sage, forget crystals.
5:32 Speaker 03 Fuck the grass, fuck the hiking, just podcasts.
5:36 Laci Mosley? Fuck the hiking, just fuck, just drop the hiking off of it.
5:39 Speaker 03 Drop the hiking, a little vodka and a podcast or a little weed, whatever, you know, whatever you like.
5:43 Laci Mosley? Whatever your thing is, or a little nothing.
5:44 Speaker 03 A little nothing, a little air, you know?
5:47 Laci Mosley? A little air, you know, I love air, we all love it.
5:49 Speaker 03 We love, we love oxygen.
5:51 Laci Mosley? So we always ask on this podcast, Brandon, what is your relationship with scams? Do you love them? Do you hate them? Have you ever been scammed? It could be anything.
5:59 Speaker 03 I love, I love to watch documentaries about scams. I don't know if you've watched Breath of Fire recently, the Kundalini one with the white woman who took over for.
6:08 Laci Mosley? We just covered her.
6:09 Speaker 03 Ah, love that fucking scam. I love a cult scam, but I'm from New York and I was raised by Caribbean, so like I'm always suspicious. So I'm not really falling into a scam. Like everything to me is like a Mission Impossible, like if I see an old.
6:21 Laci Mosley? You're like, you can't trick me.
6:23 Speaker 03 You can't trick me. Yes.
6:25 Laci Mosley? His accent's way better.
6:27 Speaker 03 Well, you know, authentic. If I'm, if I see an old white woman, I'm crossing the street because she could be a decoy. That could be Tom Cruise in a mask. You know what I'm saying? And I don't fucks with that. She could be a decoy. And I don't trust no old white lady come up to me, ah, baby, you're a decoy. So, only, you know, I will say the one scam is like Navia, which we've all been scammed by, the fucking student loans of it all.
6:48 Laci Mosley? Yeah.
6:49 Speaker 03 It's the one scam I fell for. Yeah, Navia was mine.
6:52 Laci Mosley? Okay. When you said it, it sounded like Nivya. I was like, the singer?
6:55 Speaker 03 The singer and not, and not the, uh, the lip balm. I love that. That's black people.
6:59 Laci Mosley? I thought it was a lip balm too. That was my second thought. It was that blue lip balm with the right, white writing.
7:04 Speaker 03 Nivya scammed me. Don't mess with my ma- that's her song, right? Yeah, it is. Yeah, it is.
7:08 Laci Mosley? Yeah, is it? I don't be the one who records it.
7:11 Speaker 03 Yeah, yeah, that's Nivya.
7:12 Laci Mosley? But, okay, so Navia.
7:14 Speaker 03 Navia. Navia scammed me along with Sally Mae. Um, yes, that's my relationship. Oh, also, I did have recently, I had to send it to my manager, my business manager, my agent, because somebody emailed me saying that they like had videos of me. Uh, and they were like very vague, but they were like, we have like indecent videos of you that you wouldn't want to get out, which I think was like videos of me like jerking off is what they were trying to imply. And so that was-
7:41 Laci Mosley? We call that home passion. We've heard about that scam.
7:43 Speaker 03 Oh, home passion. Yeah, well, I was a little nervous about it if it was real because they asked for money too to like end it. But I was also kind of like, my whole brand is around sex. Like, a video of me drops jerking off, I don't think anyone's gonna be upset.
7:56 Laci Mosley? Did they ask for the money in Bitcoin?
7:59 Speaker 03 Did they ask for Bitcoin? I don't think they asked for it in Bitcoin, no. I think they were like a, I feel like they asked for like a PayPal transfer or some shit.
8:06 Laci Mosley? Oh, okay. Usually they don't do that one because it's a little more traceable. But when they sent you the letter, was it menacing? Because I got one in Ireland that was like super menacing. It had pictures of my old address. It was kind of really scary.
8:19 Speaker 03 Yeah, this was like evil tone. Like they were like, you don't want this and we will get you. And, you know, don't tell nobody if we go. And I was like, well, I'll tell people immediately, first of all. Um, and I was like, you clearly don't know who I am because, uh, because that's not going, like, you know, a jerking off video is not going to ruin me. I, I think I get asked to do an OnlyFans.
8:37 Laci Mosley? It might blow you up even more.
8:38 Speaker 03 Honestly, it might help. Honestly, it might support the business.
8:43 Laci Mosley? You like, release it.
8:44 Speaker 03 Release it. Honestly, I want to see it. What you got? I want to see the angles. The only thing I didn't want was like, you know, you know, a cum face can be terrible. And that's the only thing. I don't, you know, we don't like our bad.
8:53 Laci Mosley? They screenshot it.
8:54 Speaker 03 They screenshot the cum face. That's the one, that's the one thing I don't want is my cum face out there. Cause I don't know if it's pretty, but anything else.
9:01 Laci Mosley? I don't know if it's pretty. I've never thought about it.
9:05 Speaker 03 Heck, what, listen, when people come, sometimes their faces be wild. Yeah, that. It be wild. One eye be going to the left, other one goes up, the, the lips be, you know, trapped as fuck. It's, you know, the cum face. But if it is, that means you, you did well. So I do support a good cum face. I just didn't want mine to be on the internet.
9:24 Laci Mosley? That's, that's so fascinating to me because I have gotten those letters and a lot of people, people have written into the show about those letters. But I just don't respond. The last one was so menacing. I read it on the show though. But, and they had pictures of my address and my old phone number and all this stuff, my old address and stuff. So, yeah, they went on Google Maps and, and whatever the hell else and was really trying to get you, girl. But to hit your management up and be like, this might come out.
9:55 Speaker 03 Well, I wanted to let the people know. I said, listen, manager and business manager, first of all, don't send nothing.
9:59 Laci Mosley? So now your business manager knows you got Jerkin It videos?
10:03 Speaker 03 Absolutely. But honestly, I don't.
10:05 Laci Mosley? This was a deal with your taxes, Brandon. Okay. They didn't say anything about your testes. Like, they didn't say anything about that.
10:11 Speaker 03 I know, but I just wanted to make sure it wasn't something I needed to pay. I'll send it to my lawyer too.
10:17 Laci Mosley? Your whole team is way too informed.
10:22 Laci Mosley? Sorry to bother you on a Sunday.
10:24 Speaker 03 On a Sunday night, on the Lord's night, honey, I apologize. But my videos might come out and I don't know what they are. Help me. Um, and they were like, girl, shut up. You gonna be fine. My manager literally was like, you, don't worry about this. You gonna be fine. So.
10:40 Laci Mosley? Hitting your business manager for a wire transfer for your nudes is wild. You weren't gonna just do it yourself? You were gonna, you were like, I pay these people. So if I gotta pay a ransom, they paying it.
10:52 Speaker 03 Exactly. They got, if they take a 5%, they gonna have to do everything. So, uh, listen.
10:56 Laci Mosley? I need better work-life balance.
10:58 Speaker 03 I can't be doing everything. I gotta rest.
11:00 Laci Mosley? I saw a meme, I posted it, you probably know Ty, um, I think he does hair or something, but, um, he used to like work with Beyonce in some capacity.
11:09 Speaker 03 Oh, Ty, yeah.
11:10 Laci Mosley? And he posted this video, um, of a casket rolling down a hill in the cemetery by itself. And it was like me on the way to bury myself, cuz my toxic trait is I have to do everything myself.
11:22 Speaker 03 I had to do myself. I'mma bury myself. I gotta do all myself. That is, you know what? That's also just such a, I think a plight of black folk, you know, black women, black femmes. We feel like we gotta do it all ourselves.
11:34 Laci Mosley? Or we're not gonna get done right.
11:36 Speaker 03 Or we're not gonna get done right, that too. I like things done a particular way. Uh, and I like my nudes paid by my business manager. That's, that's just what it is.
11:45 Laci Mosley? I like my nudes paid for by my business manager. They are taking 5%, so you're right.
11:50 Speaker 03 They are taking 5%, so they gotta do so, if I gotta pay anything, they gotta be involved in it. And that includes the nudes, so.
11:57 Laci Mosley? I gotta get better with that, cuz I pay so many people who do not do enough. They be trying to get me to do everything.
12:03 Speaker 03 No, baby. If you, if you getting a check, you gotta, I wanna know what you're doing. I wanna check your work. Q1, Q2, Q3, Q4, we having evaluations. What are we talking about?
12:12 Laci Mosley? These days, I don't even ask. If it's something that should be expected, I just be like, oh, okay. Wonder, they'll ask me to do something, I'll be like, great. And when y'all set up the whole team to help with that, let me know.
12:25 Speaker 03 Inform me. You know what I love about that is, you know, we're two black queer dolls in this business. And, uh, I think we deserve that support. I think that life is hard and work is hard and we are, are climbing up a lot of fucking hills that people don't even realize about. So the team needs to step the fuck up and step in.
12:43 Laci Mosley? And it's a scam. Everybody's trying to make their lives easier. So you have to remember that. And if you're out there and you can relate to this, my scam is, is that I don't ask. Ask people to help me with things. I just tell them like, oh, well, let me know when I need to show up. Or, oh, okay, we're doing this. So let me know when you have the support team together. I'm so excited to do it. Like, I just, I just make it an expectation. And if they come back with like, oh, we actually don't have the budget or oh, we can't do that. I'm like, oh, that's such a shame. I really wanted to do it.
13:20 Speaker 03 Yes, that is.
13:22 Laci Mosley? I realize I don't have to be confrontational. I don't have to fight, like, if it's not my job and you're trying to get me to do it, then you're scamming me. And I'm just be like, oh, that's so funny. So when y'all get the people who do the other jobs, then I'll come and do my job that I supposed to do. If you're at work and they're like, you're so good at your job, like, we're gonna give you more responsibility. I'd be like, that is so exciting. I can't wait for the pay raise that comes with that responsibility. And if they're like, oh, we can't actually pay you more, you can be like, well, whenever y'all have the chance, then I would love to be responsible for more.
14:01 Speaker 03 When y'all can afford it, I would love.
14:03 Laci Mosley? Oh, I like that. When y'all can afford it, I would love to be responsible for more. Cause I'm, I love this company and I am so excited to be responsible for more. So whenever y'all find the funds. When you can scrape and scrounge for them up.
14:19 Speaker 03 Whenever you get it, you know, I'll be there.
14:21 Laci Mosley? I'm gonna be right here. You could count on me.
14:25 Speaker 03 You know where my office is. Find me, baby. You know my email address. Let me know when you got it.
14:29 Laci Mosley? You know what? Let me go ahead and put an alert on y'all. Cause I know as soon as y'all can have a fundraiser or sell some lemonade or wash some cars and, you know,
14:41 Laci Mosley? at Bank of America, whenever y'all can get it.
14:43 Speaker 03 Whenever y'all can get it. But I'm certainly gonna pray for y'all in the meantime, that y'all get whatever that response. I want, I want you to get what you need done.
14:50 Laci Mosley? Get money. I want me to get money. We need to get money together.
14:54 Speaker 03 I wanna still win together, honestly.
14:57 Laci Mosley? Not just one of us.
14:59 Speaker 03 Not together, baby. I want us to win. Yeah, but but right now, your your your budget is low, so we not gonna win together right now.
15:08 Laci Mosley? Right now, I can only do what my job is because that's what I'm paid to do. And it would be wrong of me to overstep and do stuff I wasn't paid to do.
15:17 Speaker 03 I would have to report y'all. That would be crazy. I don't want to have to report you.
15:20 Laci Mosley? I just would be like, I it would be inappropriate, irresponsible of me to do things that I wasn't paid to do. Like, if y'all came in here, y'all saw me doing electrical wiring, and I wasn't paid for that, you'd be upset.
15:31 Speaker 03 You could be like, Lacey, why are you doing electrical wiring? That's crazy. Brandon, why are you plumbing? That's crazy. And I agree, that is crazy. I should not be doing what I'm not paid to do. You're right.
15:41 Laci Mosley? It's 2025, we not doing what we not paid to do. Scott, leave this in on air. I was already moving on, Scott. We gonna put in a Zoom. We should probably move on. Scott is so sick of me and my shit, y'all. You have no idea. He should be. He should be. I'm annoying. So.
16:01 Speaker 04 There's no one else I'd rather annoy.
16:04 Speaker 03 Oh, I love it here.
16:07 Laci Mosley? Scott!
16:10 Speaker 00 OnDeck is built to back small businesses like yours. Whether you're buying equipment, expanding your team, or bridging cash flow gaps, OnDeck's loans up to $400,000 help make it happen fast. Rated A+ by the Better Business Bureau and earning thousands of 5-star TrustPilot reviews, OnDeck delivers funding you can count on. Apply in minutes at ondeck.com. Depending on certain loan attributes, your business loan may be issued by OnDeck or Celtic Bank. OnDeck does not lend in North Dakota. All loans and amounts subject to lender approval.
16:43 Speaker 05 She'd throw things, wander, and started hoarding. Mom's Alzheimer's was already so hard, but then we found out she had agitation that may happen with dementia due to Alzheimer's disease. And that was a different kind of difficult. So we asked her doctor for more help.
16:58 Speaker 06 Seeing symptoms like these in a loved one? It could be time to ask their doctor about Rexulti, Rexiprazole 2mg, the first FDA-approved treatment for this condition. Rexulti is proven to reduce agitation symptoms. Should not be used as an as needed treatment. Elderly people with dementia related psychosis have increased risk of death or stroke. Report fever, stiff muscles and confusion, which can be life threatening, or uncontrolled muscle movements which may be permanent. High blood sugar can lead to coma or death. Weight gain, increased cholesterol, unusual urges, dizziness on standing, falls, seizures, trouble swallowing, or sleepiness may occur. Learn more about these and other side effects at rexulti.com. Tap ad for PI.
17:33 Speaker 05 I'm glad I asked for help.
17:35 Speaker 06 Ask your loved one's doctor about
17:39 Speaker 07 Network freedom and flexibility. That's what you want in a healthcare plan. With a Humana Medicare Advantage PPO plan, you can see any doctor in the country who accepts Medicare, including specialists. No referrals, no kidding. Learn more at gethumana.com. See any doctor who accepts Medicare and is willing to bill Humana. Humana PPOs may not be available in all areas. Benefits and costs share may vary. Humana is a Medicare Advantage PPO organization with a Medicare contract. Enrollment in any Humana plan depends on contract renewal.
18:12 Laci Mosley? So we're moving on to my favorite segment here, historic hoodwinks. This is where we regale Brandon and all of you with a famous con caper group of criminals. We don't know yet, but at the top, I do want to note that the story is primarily reported by Charles Bethea in his 2024 New Yorker article, "The Fake Oil Man." So if y'all want to check out his article, it'll be in our footnotes, but you know, we don't scam our journalists here. So y'all give him some clicks because the journalist girlies need all the clicks they can get today because it's getting bad.
18:45 Laci Mosley? Like, I'm so tired of a YouTube journalist. Like, I mean, shout out, get your money, y'all. But y'all didn't go to school.
18:51 Speaker 03 Come on, Don Lemon's on IG live all the time now.
18:54 Laci Mosley? Well, that's because he got kicked off of his real journalism.
19:01 Laci Mosley? Look, I loved the Don Lemon pepper when he started being black again. I was living. And when he's drunk at New Year's Eve.
19:08 Speaker 03 But he did scam us with that Beyonce. When he said Beyonce was gonna show up to that, anyways, go ahead, continue all the-
19:12 Laci Mosley? You know what he did, but it's okay. He's gotta get the clicks.
19:15 Speaker 03 We forgive you, yeah, get the clicks.
19:17 Laci Mosley? So, we're talking about this fake oil man. Fake, but fabulous, Texas oil tycoon Alan Todd May can't stop Ponzi scheming millions out of people, no matter how many times he gets locked up. So, he can't stop, it's not-
19:34 Speaker 03 It's an addiction.
19:35 Laci Mosley? I wanna stop stealing.
19:38 Speaker 03 He, he needs to go to rehab for that. Wait, these glasses that he's wearing, y'all got this photo of him in these pink ass glasses? That looks like a scammer. How is he getting people's money?
19:45 Laci Mosley? Those look like Cartier glasses.
19:47 Speaker 03 And the matte, not, no shade, but the shade of the pink of the glasses are matching the shade of his skin.
19:52 Laci Mosley? Yeah, those aren't for him. They might look good on Lotto or somebody else, but those were not for him.
19:58 Speaker 03 Those weren't glasses for him, no.
20:00 Laci Mosley? His young girlfriend picked those out and she was like, "Let's get matching sets."
20:03 Speaker 03 Matching.
20:05 Speaker 03 I hope she scammed her, or she scanned him, I hope that.
20:08 Laci Mosley? Right. Or, or boyfriend, we don't know.
20:10 Speaker 03 What boyfriend?
20:10 Laci Mosley? Non-binary partner.
20:12 Speaker 03 You know, come on, are they friends?
20:13 Laci Mosley? We don't know.
20:14 Speaker 03 We don't know.
20:14 Laci Mosley? They friends sounds so funny, I love it. Or they friend.
20:19 Speaker 03 I know, they friend and theydy is also another one. Instead of daddy. Don't you ever call me theydy though, Lacey, I will fight.
20:26 Laci Mosley? I will, I'm just gonna call you theydy all the time now. You shouldn't have said that.
20:30 Speaker 03 I will fight, theydy.
20:32 Laci Mosley? That is brunch fuel.
20:33 Speaker 03 That is brunch.
20:34 Laci Mosley? Hey, theydy. That's my theydy. So, Alan Todd May, like mother, like son. He basically did, he got this honest, like, the apple, the scam apple fell from the tree. It doesn't fall far from the scam tree, which is obviously the giving tree.
20:54 Laci Mosley? So, career scammer Alan Todd May, AKA Jacob Turner, AKA Mark Mangum, AKA Brian Pierce, AKA Justin Gore, AKA Jonathan Fairchild, AKA, like, I wish he had words, now it's starting to sound like a song. These are all believable names. Jacob Turner.
21:11 Speaker 03 What was that song, Mamba Number Five? Remember that song?
21:14 Laci Mosley? Yeah. A little bit of Jacob Turner in my life. A little Mark Mangum by my side. A little Brian Pierce, all I need. A little Just the Gore, you and me.
21:26 Speaker 03 Yes.
21:27 Laci Mosley? Boom boom, John, nothing fair, John, boom boom. Got other aliases. He's got other aliases. We don't even have a mom. But he was born to humble beginnings in 1964 in Houston, Texas.
21:40 Speaker 03 Come on, H-Town, stand up.
21:42 Laci Mosley? Shout out to my, uh, state. The laws aren't great, but the barbecue is bustin'.
21:51 Speaker 03 And y'all got Meg, y'all got Beyonce. Listen, y'all, y'all doing some things right over there.
21:54 Laci Mosley? They got me.
21:55 Speaker 03 They got your Lacey, come on, period.
21:57 Laci Mosley? They got Jamie Foxx. They got, we could go.
21:59 Speaker 03 Y'all really do be putting out just like superstars in work.
22:03 Laci Mosley? Everything's biggie. Everything's biggie.
22:05 Speaker 03 Come on, T.
22:06 Laci Mosley? So Alan's great grandfather, we'll call him Alan, that's the name his mama gave him?
22:11 Speaker 03 Okay.
22:11 Laci Mosley? Maybe? Alan's great grandfather was a cotton gin operator, not the cotton gin. There was a restaurant called The Cotton Gin in Terrell that had food that was delicious. But I was eating in there like, this, it's like when you go to Cracker Barrel.
22:25 Speaker 03 Cracker Barrel, I was gonna say, yeah, I'd be like, oh, the food is kinda tasty, but why y'all taking me to Cracker Barrel?
22:31 Laci Mosley? I feel like Cracker Barrel is nigga and The Cotton Gin was nigger. And they were like, let's take it a step further.
22:41 Speaker 03 Wow, yeah, we gotta take it a little further. I wanna hear that "er", you know?
22:45 Laci Mosley? Okay. You know you got Chipotle and Qdoba, like, you gotta, you gotta take it a step up. So, um, his great grandfather was a cotton gin operator who had managed to secure a small oil and gas interest worth a hundred dollars a month in today's currency. But that didn't exactly make his family oil barons, right? They just got a little bit of oil. They got a taste. So when he was 20 years old, both Alan and his mother were sent to jail separately for writing bad checks.
23:12 Speaker 03 Damn, mom and son going to jail together, like, that's like a fucked up Bonnie and Clyde.
23:16 Laci Mosley? Yeah, we didn't have affluenza back then because I. Really feel like if my mom went for bad checks, I should be able to be like, she taught me that cuz she my mama and.
23:25 Speaker 03 Yeah, that's true.
23:26 Laci Mosley? I should be free.
23:27 Speaker 03 Oh, that's true.
23:28 Laci Mosley? So from his cell, Alan filed a class action lawsuit against the county, arguing that inmates should have access to newspapers. Okay, prison reform. He also sued the county and the federal government for a total of eight million dollars, alleging that his parole officer had used his power to manipulate him into indulging in various sex acts. None of this, what he's saying right now, sounds wrong to me.
23:52 Speaker 03 No, yeah, that all makes sense.
23:54 Laci Mosley? You know, he wrote fake checks, but who knows, maybe the money would have been in the account. You cashed it to her.
23:59 Speaker 03 Yeah, that's right. You were supposed to cash on the date.
24:01 Laci Mosley? He wants inmates to be able to read and be informed. And he also doesn't want the guards.
24:07 Speaker 03 To be touching him. That seems correct. All this seems, yeah, this seems like advocacy work. This seems correct.
24:13 Laci Mosley? Yeah. So the officer resigned, but Alan dropped the suit anyway, saying that he had willingly participated in their tryst. Okay, now.
24:21 Speaker 03 I love that word. Spell it.
24:25 Laci Mosley? T R Y S T. Now I love that word. Spell it.
24:32 Laci Mosley? I'm sorry, saying that if someone says the word, it's not in my lexicon, I'm like, I love that word.
24:37 Speaker 03 I love that word. Wow, tryst.
24:41 Laci Mosley? So basically Alan said they, okay, never mind, we were actually, that was Bay.
24:46 Speaker 03 Oh, no.
24:47 Laci Mosley? Never mind.
24:48 Speaker 03 First scam.
24:49 Laci Mosley? Curious.
24:49 Speaker 03 Okay, or second scam.
24:50 Laci Mosley? Alan was released from prison when he promised the judge he would turn away from his homosexual tendencies, marry a woman and keep to the straight and narrow. Emphasis on the straight.
25:02 Speaker 03 Wow, I would scam too. I would say yes. I'd say I'd love both of us.
25:09 Laci Mosley? I love both of us.
25:11 Speaker 03 I mean, yeah, that's, I think how a gay person would say. A gay man would say.
25:17 Laci Mosley? He got some wet slimy lady bits. I was like.
25:20 Speaker 03 Stop it.
25:21 Laci Mosley? That is offensive. Okay, you don't have to like it to respect it, okay? You came out of it. You came out of it.
25:28 Speaker 03 So say to the judge, I like wet slimy lady bits. I promise I will only play with wet slimy lady bits. I promise, judge. That's disgusting.
25:39 Laci Mosley? No, we're not, no disrespect on my pee.
25:42 Speaker 03 No, no, no, no, no.
25:43 Laci Mosley? Oh, my pee. Okay, we're keeping it pee.
25:44 Speaker 03 I mean, I, yeah. I mean, I do. Not romantically, but I do the power, the pussy's power.
25:51 Laci Mosley? You were on Big Mouth. I need you to be serious.
25:54 Speaker 03 Period. I love the pussy.
25:56 Laci Mosley? So, do you say bussy or pussy? We're not gonna do that.
25:59 Speaker 03 I did say pussy, but also pussy.
26:02 Speaker 03 MA, MA rating.
26:04 Laci Mosley? So, he did marry a woman.
26:06 Speaker 03 Ah.
26:07 Laci Mosley? But they divorced one year later, just as he was convicted of check fraud for the second time and sentenced to six more years in prison. So she was like, get away from me, you gay criminals.
26:19 Speaker 03 Yes. You know what? Honestly, Lacey, we need gay criminals. So I'm actually kind of on,
26:26 Speaker 03 I'm actually here for Jonathan Mark, whatever his name is, I, or Alan, uh, cause you know, we do need some gay criminals. I think gays deserve to be villains, too.
26:34 Laci Mosley? Yeah. Gays are the best villains. If you look at any villain costume in Marvel, in DC, anywhere, the most costume is always the villain.
26:43 Speaker 03 It's the villain. Jafar, Ursula, like, all the, like, come on.
26:47 Laci Mosley? Loki, like.
26:48 Speaker 03 Yes, absolutely.
26:50 Laci Mosley? Jafar.
26:50 Speaker 03 Jafar, Eats, Down, Scar.
26:53 Laci Mosley? Eats.
26:53 Speaker 03 Scar's stunning, stunning eyes, beautiful, and the little, the.
26:56 Laci Mosley? That, that's crazy, not crazy, but that, um, evil man in Princess and the Frog, who was in Louisiana.
27:03 Speaker 03 Ow, gorgeous, gorgeous. The Shadow Man.
27:07 Laci Mosley? The Shadow Man.
27:08 Speaker 03 Beautiful. I would suck that, uh, yeah, sorry, wrong podcast.
27:12 Laci Mosley? Now you can go suck some shadow dick. Oh, no.
27:14 Speaker 03 I would, listen.
27:15 Laci Mosley? Good lord.
27:16 Speaker 03 Listen, he could be in my shadow. Okay, sorry.
27:18 Laci Mosley? James from Team Rocket on Pokemon.
27:19 Speaker 03 Come on, these are beautiful, gorgeous villains, yes.
27:23 Laci Mosley? Beautiful villains.
27:24 Speaker 03 Gay villains.
27:25 Laci Mosley? Yes. So, yeah, they're all gay now, we're saying it.
27:29 Speaker 03 Yeah, they're all gay, beautiful gowns.
27:31 Laci Mosley? So, flash forward to the 90s. Alan was out of prison again, and he remarried, living in a beach rental in St. Petersburg, Florida. He told his landlord, Beth, that he organized conventions for a living and was in town to put on a women's expo. Alan knows all about women, you know he does.
27:49 Speaker 03 All about the ladies. He does, he loves them.
27:51 Laci Mosley? So.
27:51 Speaker 03 He loves the vulva, the wits time lady, but go ahead.
27:54 Laci Mosley? No, I hate that I said that now. Okay. Now you're vady forever. I'll never call you by your real name again.
28:01 Speaker 03 Oh, I hate it here.
28:03 Laci Mosley? So Beth, the landlord, said that Alan lived a lavish lifestyle. He'd rent limos, take Beth out for expensive steak dinners, and buy her boyfriend Louis Vuitton neckties. So he tricking off on Beth and Beth's boyfriend. Now, why he tricking off on Beth's boyfriend? Curious.
28:23 Laci Mosley? So Alan even replaced the wicker furniture in the beach house with mahogany and marble, and hung English hunting scenes on the walls, and laid out issues of Forbes and Fortune magazine around the house. So he had taste. He had St. Petersburg taste.
28:40 Speaker 03 Class.
28:41 Laci Mosley? Class, all the way. According to Beth, one day Alan and his wife suddenly packed up their things and vanished overnight, leaving behind several checks in the mailbox and red hair dye in the trash. Now Beth, why do we need to know about the red hair dye? I guess you're trying to say they run it from the law. And so she had to switch her wig up, make him feel like he cheating.
29:00 Speaker 03 Give us a little Ariel from The Mermaid, you know, give us a little something, something.
29:04 Laci Mosley? Now, when you're running, when you're on the run, you're not supposed to do your hair dye at home. Y'all were too chill. You're supposed to do your hair dye in a gas station bathroom with shaky hands.
29:12 Speaker 03 Absolutely, in the bathroom with no mirror. Dirty, dirty bathroom.
29:17 Laci Mosley? Shaky hands, you need to be looking over your shoulders the whole time so that your whole shirt is red.
29:22 Speaker 03 Every siren, you're like, oh, what's that? Yeah.
29:24 Laci Mosley? So Beth was perplexed until she connected with the F, the B, and the I. Turns out Alan had been signing convention center rental agreements using false identities. He'd lure in vendors with brochures and newspaper ads, and once he received their booth deposits, he skipped town with the cash.
29:43 Speaker 03 Alan could have been a graphic designer, and graphic designers make great money. I mean, it sounds like these brochures are nice.
29:48 Laci Mosley? They do, but this is like...
29:50 Speaker 03 The brochures are nice enough to scam. I feel like, well, that's a skill. Why don't you use that and get money for real?
29:55 Laci Mosley? Do we think he wanted those newspapers when he was in prison so he could start studying graphic design?
30:00 Speaker 03 Oh.
30:02 Speaker 03 Perhaps.
30:03 Laci Mosley? He had newspaper ads.
30:04 Speaker 03 Yeah, perhaps. Wanted to see what they be doing. He was, I feel like you're always plotting, especially since he's addicted to the scams. He's probably always plotting the next scam. You know, so he's probably the next, the next thing. So I agree with you.
30:16 Laci Mosley? So Alan had been running this convention scam for almost 10 years.
30:21 Speaker 03 Not 10 years. 10 years? How'd he get over there for a decade?
30:25 Laci Mosley? He was bringing it around town.
30:27 Speaker 03 Wow. Touring, a touring act.
30:29 Laci Mosley? A touring act. Scam tour, okay? You heard about Renaissance, you heard about, um, the Swifty tour. Like, but did you hear about Alan's tour? Cause he was raking it in.
30:40 Speaker 03 My goodness.
30:41 Laci Mosley? He was later arrested in Indianapolis for advertising a fake Cosmopolitan women's show. He went to prison once again, but that didn't stop him. You know, well, women do love a, a, a Cosmopolitan show.
30:55 Speaker 03 I love a Cosmopolitan show, so. I, he might've, he might've got me, honestly. With that good brochure, I do love a good brochure.
31:01 Laci Mosley? Man, he probably had the girl groups pissed off.
31:05 Speaker 03 Livid.
31:06 Laci Mosley? And I, and I feel so bad for the leader of the girl group who always plans the trips.
31:10 Speaker 03 Yeah.
31:11 Laci Mosley? Because she saw that brochure and was like, hey, y'all.
31:13 Speaker 03 She organized.
31:15 Laci Mosley? Cosmo, and you know, they're in St. Petersburg, they're in small towns. Cosmopolitan is a word that's like, oh, we're about to.
31:22 Speaker 03 We're about to do something. Yeah, this is big city living right now, yes. It's very Sex and the City. I, you're, I'm immediately in my Samantha voice.
31:28 Laci Mosley? So the bougie friend, the one who doesn't order from the well, okay? She getting Smirnoff, she's not getting Papa.
31:35 Speaker 03 Mm-mm.
31:35 Laci Mosley? And she was like, we gotta go to this Cosmopolitan event, cause you hoes is not Cosmopolitan.
31:40 Speaker 03 Yeah, Smirnoff and lemonade, that feels right, that's the mix.
31:44 Laci Mosley? Mm-hmm. And they're like, oh my God, Ashley, you always know the best drinks. She's like, well, you know, I read.
31:52 Speaker 03 I read newspapers. Luxury, honey.
31:54 Laci Mosley? I went to Miami once.
31:55 Speaker 03 Come on.
31:57 Laci Mosley? Worldly.
31:58 Speaker 03 No big deal, I'm cultured, I get around.
32:00 Laci Mosley? MBD, okay? I've been to Orlando Airport.
32:03 Speaker 03 Period. Have you?
32:06 Laci Mosley? You just can't even spell Orlando Airport.
32:09 Speaker 03 Spell it right now, I dare you.
32:11 Laci Mosley? It's an I there, it's an I in there.
32:15 Speaker 03 A R I L.
32:16 Laci Mosley? Going to the airport.
32:19 Laci Mosley? The Orlando Airport.
32:22 Laci Mosley? So, he's going to prison once again. And from prison, Alan placed ads for a Christian family expo in Dallas. Whenever someone replied to an ad, he had an accomplice on the outside connect him to the person on a conference call, which would avoid the automatic disclosure that comes with calls from prison. So he did a three-way call to scam out of prison. And he did the perfect brochure for Dallas. It's like, "Christian Expo." They don't know what that means, but it says "Christian."
32:52 Speaker 03 Wow. He knew the demographic. Wow, he's actually quite, this is a talented scammer. And again, because he's gay, I'm still kinda on his side.
33:06 Speaker 03 Controversial, hot take.
33:09 Laci Mosley? You gotta support gay rights, you gotta support gay wrongs, okay? Yes.
33:12 Speaker 03 You gotta support gay rights, honey, okay?
33:15 Laci Mosley? So, one woman named Jolene.
33:17 Speaker 03 Oh.
33:18 Laci Mosley? Okay, was this the Jolene?
33:20 Speaker 03 Come on.
33:20 Laci Mosley? Cause all my homies hate Jolene.
33:22 Speaker 03 Come on.
33:24 Laci Mosley? So, one woman named Jolene hoped to sell her children's book at the expo, and she replied to Alan's ad by phone. He then shipped her a convention floor plan overnight, and she sent a deposit for a few hundred dollars to an address that he provided. So, he's got some legit tricks here. He sent her something to convince her that the convention was legit by just sending a floor plan and being like, "Oh, well, where do you want your children's booth? Like, you get to pick, like, these areas are still open. Everything's going fast, though, so it's only really these four booths over here, but it's prime real estate."
33:58 Speaker 03 Wow.
33:59 Laci Mosley? So, when Jolene called the convention center, she learned that the expo had never been scheduled. Even the IRS fell for this scam.
34:08 Speaker 03 Even the IRS?
34:09 Laci Mosley? The IRS.
34:09 Speaker 03 They the people.
34:10 Laci Mosley? They not. They're underfunded. That's why they're always audited in the middle class.
34:16 Speaker 03 Underfunded, okay, too.
34:17 Laci Mosley? Yeah, they have lobbyists who lobby to keep the IRS underfunded so that they can't audit the super rich very well.
34:25 Speaker 03 Scam. Wow. So you gotta, wow.
34:27 Laci Mosley? So we actually do wanna fund the IRS.
34:29 Speaker 03 We do.
34:30 Laci Mosley? When you hear defund the IRS, it always feels like, oh, if we get rid of them or give them less resources, they're not coming for us. No, they're coming for the easiest people.
34:37 Speaker 03 Yeah.
34:38 Laci Mosley? So they're coming for us.
34:39 Speaker 03 They need more money so they can go up to the top.
34:40 Laci Mosley? We need to fund them.
34:42 Speaker 03 Cause they gotta go to the top.
34:43 Laci Mosley? And if you want your check faster, your refund, I'm still waiting on a refund from the IRS. I don't think I'm ever gonna see it. Like, and it's been almost a year.
34:50 Speaker 03 What?
34:51 Laci Mosley? I need to go up there with a bet. It's lemonade for the IRS.
34:54 Speaker 03 I'll bring a bet too. We'll go up together. We'll do a TLC style.
34:57 Laci Mosley? Yes.
34:58 Speaker 03 Hello?
35:00 Laci Mosley? I might have to do a left eye style. Burn it to the ground.
35:02 Speaker 03 Come on, burn it down.
35:03 Laci Mosley? If you hear this, it's a comedy show, okay?
35:05 Speaker 03 It's a joke, honey. It's a joke. Please don't.
35:07 Laci Mosley? It's a joke.
35:08 Speaker 03 Yeah, don't put us on the list. Come on.
35:08 Laci Mosley? I love the IRS. That's my homegirl.
35:10 Speaker 03 She's always so kind to me.
35:11 Laci Mosley? That's my cousin.
35:12 Speaker 03 Hey, that's my sister. What are you talking about?
35:14 Laci Mosley? The IRS make the best mac and cheese.
35:15 Speaker 03 Okay, the best potato salad, okay? Nice.
35:20 Laci Mosley? So the IRS fell for this scam. They paid Allen for a booth at a fake women's trade show. Now, why does IRS, you know what they need a booth? They probably need to recruit.
35:29 Speaker 03 That's true.
35:33 Laci Mosley? Nobody audits better than a woman, okay?
35:35 Speaker 03 Hey, come on.
35:36 Laci Mosley? She gonna find all the money.
35:38 Speaker 03 At where it's hidden. She knows, okay? Where you been spending it, she knows. Okay?
35:43 Laci Mosley? A woman from the IRS coming to your house, she looking up under your mattress.
35:46 Speaker 03 You might as well just put your hands out for the cuffs, cause she gonna find it.
35:49 Laci Mosley? Literally. She's gonna find it.
35:50 Speaker 03 She gonna find.
36:20 Speaker 05 Subject to lender approval.
36:26 Speaker 05 She'd throw things, wander, and started hoarding. Mom's Alzheimer's was already so hard. But then we found out she had agitation that may happen with dementia due to Alzheimer's disease. And that was a different kind of difficult. So we asked her doctor for more help.
36:41 Speaker 06 Seeing symptoms like these in a loved one? It could be time to ask their doctor about Rexulti. Rexiprazole 2mg. The first FDA-approved treatment for this condition. Rexulti has proven to reduce agitation symptoms. Rexulti should not be used as an as-needed treatment. Elderly people with dementia-related psychosis have increased risk of death or stroke. Report fever, stiff muscles, and confusion, which can be life-threatening, or uncontrolled muscle movements, which may be permanent. High blood sugar can lead to coma or death. Weight gain, increased cholesterol, unusual urges, dizziness on standing, falls, seizures, trouble swallowing, or sleepiness may occur. Learn more about these and other side effects at rexulti.com. Tap ad for PI.
37:16 Speaker 05 I'm glad I asked for help.
37:18 Speaker 06 Ask your loved one's doctor about Rexulti.
37:22 Speaker 07 At Humana, our Medicare Advantage plans are easy to understand and easy on your wallet. Like offering more benefits than you'd get from original Medicare alone, and including dental, vision, and hearing coverage in every plan. And the best part is, every plan has a $0 or low monthly plan premium, which makes it easier to save, too. So this Medicare planning season, plan well with Humana. Learn more at gethumana.com. Humana is a Medicare Advantage HMO and PPO organization with a Medicare contract. Enrollment in any Humana plan depends on contract renewal.
37:55 Laci Mosley? So by the early 2000s, Alan was in his 30s, a free man again, and dating a high school senior named Jason that he met in an AOL chatroom. See, this is why y'all can't give your kids them CD-ROMs.
38:09 Speaker 03 I just want to officially say that I'm against this gay villain.
38:15 Speaker 03 I just want to clarify that.
38:16 Laci Mosley? You tapping out?
38:17 Speaker 03 Tapping out. No longer support. I can no longer support this gay villain. That's wild. That whole sentence is wild. AOL chatroom, I remember those. I used to be on the AOL chatrooms. This is different. But for Brandy, because I was obsessed with Brandy Norwood. And so I would go into Brandy chatrooms and talk about Brandy a lot. That was such a...
38:35 Laci Mosley? And talk about Brandy.
38:39 Speaker 03 Because Cinderella, come on Cinderella, have you ever, you know, double platinum? Brandy was really, Brandy was that girl. She is still that girl. So I had to talk about her.
38:49 Laci Mosley? Chill awhile, but she's that girl.
38:50 Speaker 03 Yeah.
38:51 Laci Mosley? So Alan opened a dry cleaners in a fancy neighborhood of Houston in Jason's name. Now that's his high school.
38:58 Speaker 03 A dry cleaner in the high school booth's name?
39:01 Laci Mosley? You were talking about Sally Mae being a scam. Alan went after the teenagers as well. He's like, oh, you fresh out of high school? Perfect. Let's sign you up for a loan, but not for college, for a dry cleaner.
39:13 Speaker 03 That's nuts. Okay?
39:15 Laci Mosley? And does he know anything about dry or cleaning?
39:17 Speaker 03 What? What's happening?
39:19 Laci Mosley? So he opens it in Jason's name, but they didn't do any dry cleaning there. Instead, they took the clothes to another cleaner and returned them to the customers at a markup. Alan also used Jason's credit card to buy dozens of Prada shoes for himself and opened several accounts in Jason's name. So you done got with a man who's ruining your credit. We think it with an old man. There is not supposed to ruin your credit.
39:41 Speaker 03 They're not. They're supposed to help. Yeah, help get it up. You're supposed to ruin their credit. No, it's reverse.
39:46 Laci Mosley? Now, I like the scam of like you opened something in a bougie neighborhood and then you go downtown.
39:55 Speaker 03 Taking notes. Yeah.
39:57 Laci Mosley? Taking notes. I actually have a dry cleaning business congregation. It's in a bougie neighborhood.
40:03 Speaker 03 Bougie neighborhood. Come to bougie neighborhood.
40:05 Laci Mosley? But y'all can get involved.
40:06 Speaker 03 Take from the rich, you know, give to the poor or to yourself, I guess, in Alan's case.
40:10 Laci Mosley? Right. So Alan was arrested and locked up again, but he used this time in the slammer wisely. Now, he's always seems to do that, but okay.
40:20 Speaker 03 He's always scamming. Okay.
40:21 Laci Mosley? He decided to dispute the inheritance that his late father recently left to his stepmother, which included that hundred dollar monthly oil and gas royalty. Alan wrote an emotional letter pleading his case to the probate judge and succeeded in claiming the inheritance. Although the hundred dollar royalty wasn't much, he could now technically call himself Alan Todd May.
40:44 Laci Mosley? Oil man.
40:45 Speaker 03 Oh my god.
40:48 Laci Mosley? They never say how much oil you have to have to be a tycoon.
40:51 Speaker 03 Yeah, he can at least be an oil man.
40:53 Laci Mosley? Right.
40:56 Laci Mosley? You can't dispute it. He's got the paperwork.
40:58 Speaker 03 He can't dispute his. And when I hear oil man, I do think immediately, oh, they must know what they're doing. I don't know why, but like, I'm not an oil. I don't know anyone who's an oil. So if like, I meet somebody, they're like, oh, I'm an oil man. I'd be like, oh damn, you got money, don't you?
41:11 Laci Mosley? You got money.
41:12 Speaker 03 You're real. You're legit. Yeah, that's all he had to say is oil man.
41:15 Laci Mosley? Oil money.
41:16 Speaker 03 Oil money.
41:16 Laci Mosley? See, if you say you in water, you a water man. That don't mean nothing to me.
41:19 Speaker 03 That don't mean nothing to me, girl, nothing. But you say oil, ooh.
41:24 Laci Mosley? So where we going to dinner tonight, oil man?
41:30 Laci Mosley? So while on parole in 2008, Allen founded Prosper Oil and Gas, which falsely claimed to own and operate oil and gas leases in Texas, Oklahoma, Colorado, and Arkansas.
41:46 Laci Mosley? In two years, he raised seven million dollars from investors who purchased royalty interests in his oil and gas leases.
41:52 Speaker 03 You read that right. What? How much in two years?
41:55 Laci Mosley? Two years. Seven million of them things.
41:58 Speaker 03 Lacey, did we hire Allen? I'm just so confused.
42:01 Laci Mosley? Well, listen, he probably still got them Pradas in a locker somewhere. He dressing apart. He's an older white man. Like, older white men are like, my friend, I give you seven million dollars. A black person with a legitimate business, they're like, they're robbing me.
42:17 Speaker 03 Yeah, that is how these scams do work.
42:19 Laci Mosley? It's a gun.
42:23 Speaker 03 Oh my god, so dark and so real.
42:26 Laci Mosley? I know.
42:27 Speaker 03 So real.
42:28 Laci Mosley? However, Allen was hoodwinking his investors in three different ways. He sold mineral interests that Prosper didn't even own. That's his company, Prosper. He oversold the mineral interest that Prosper did actually own, and wildly overstated his oil production revenue. The land leases he did own barely produced any oil. So he did do a little bit of legitimacy and got himself some land leases for the oil, but it wasn't giving Texas tea.
42:55 Speaker 03 What he was saying, yeah.
42:57 Laci Mosley? No. So his land wasn't producing, right? So he pocketed the money investors paid him. And when they asked for their royalties, he paid them little bits out of the investment pool, which is a classic Ponzi scheme. When you get... Old investors' money, you spend that. And then when you get new investors' money, you then pay out dividends to the old investors from the new money that you just got.
43:22 Speaker 03 And that never works. From all the cult docs I've watched, that you, that never works.
43:26 Laci Mosley? Bernie Madoff made, did it the best. He was at least old when he went to jail.
43:30 Speaker 03 But like, it still didn't end well.
43:33 Laci Mosley? No, but if I could make it to like my late seventies.
43:37 Speaker 03 By that point.
43:39 Laci Mosley? Live on a PJ, living good.
43:43 Laci Mosley? Late seventies, I'm either gonna be in a nursing home, they pinching me and shit and they ain't changing my bedpan. Or I'mma be in a prison and you know, it'll be a federal one. And so Club Fed ain't that bad, you know?
43:57 Laci Mosley? And Allen admitted to using investor funds for extravagant personal expenses and payments to his mother, daughter, brother, and ex-wife. So I will say, he was taking care of the family.
44:06 Speaker 03 Take your family.
44:07 Laci Mosley? I do appreciate that. I don't like that you dating the young child, but I do appreciate that you taking care of your family. Two things can be true.
44:13 Speaker 03 Yes.
44:13 Laci Mosley? So his life in prison. In 2012, Allen was sentenced to 20 years in federal prison after being convicted of mail fraud in the Prosper Oil and Gas scheme. I told y'all USPS will pull up on you without the doors.
44:26 Speaker 03 Come on.
44:27 Laci Mosley? They move quick. He was transferred to the same federal prison in Colorado that was home to other notable criminals like former Enron CEO Jeffrey Skilling and Jared from Subway.
44:38 Speaker 03 Oh, yikes, disgusting.
44:40 Laci Mosley? I got it. Why is Jared from Subway in federal prison? He need to be in the beatdown.
44:44 Speaker 03 He need to be somewhere else, yeah.
44:44 Laci Mosley? Lockup, correctionals. Like, no. He don't need no outside time, creep. Now, Enron, I don't know, you did your big one. You ruined the economy, but you did do your big one.
44:57 Speaker 03 You so off of that. You did your big one. Ruined the economy, but baby, you did.
45:03 Laci Mosley? Get her, get her, okay? And by that, I mean the working American citizens.
45:11 Speaker 03 Props to you.
45:14 Laci Mosley? So while inside, Alan updated one of his Facebook pages as if he were still free, posting about charity fundraisers. In one image that he added to his page, Alan holds a polo mallet while standing in front of a Maserati. Now, this is clearly photoshopped. He had photoshopped himself on somebody else's body.
45:31 Speaker 03 He's a graphic designer.
45:33 Laci Mosley? He really is.
45:33 Speaker 03 Alan, he could have started a graphic designing business down.
45:37 Laci Mosley? Alan.
45:38 Speaker 03 Alan.
45:39 Laci Mosley? Well, you've got so much talent.
45:41 Speaker 03 It was right there.
45:41 Laci Mosley? And you know how to target your demos.
45:43 Speaker 03 Come on.
45:44 Laci Mosley? You know what people want.
45:45 Speaker 03 Yes.
45:45 Laci Mosley? Well, you could have been normal rich.
45:47 Speaker 03 Normal rich.
45:47 Laci Mosley? He was like faster. He was like, I don't got time for school. I don't got time for, mm.
45:51 Speaker 03 But you're going to jail every other day. Like, what's going on?
45:54 Laci Mosley? Every other day he going to jail.
45:57 Speaker 03 You're going to jail. My love, better choices.
46:00 Laci Mosley? You go to jail more than I check my mail. Like, what's? Stop going to jail, damn.
46:06 Speaker 03 Stop, baby, damn.
46:08 Laci Mosley? Also, this looks so clearly photoshopped to me, but if I was a Facebook user, like, and I don't mean that in like, I have Facebook. Sometimes I do use it, but I mean in like, if I got on Facebook at least, mm, three to six hours a day, which y'all are out there, this would have fooled me. If you send a Facebook links to your loved ones, this might fool you.
46:29 Speaker 03 This would have fooled me for sure. As if, if I was still a Facebook user, this, this photo would have absolutely gotten me.
46:34 Laci Mosley? He did a pretty good job.
46:35 Speaker 03 It's really good.
46:37 Laci Mosley? In another post, he wrote, "I am a management consultant in Denver, Colorado, with an amazing boyfriend." Come on out, talk about your boyfriend. He created a YouTube channel and uploaded a short clip of himself driving down a gravel road between a lake and a golf course, probably the golf course right next to the prison.
46:56 Laci Mosley? I don't know how he did that. He updated his Facebook bio to "certified mediator, polo player, author, and wine taster." He said, "All class, baby."
47:06 Speaker 03 Wait, so polo player, author, and wine taster?
47:09 Laci Mosley? He, yeah, and certified mediator. So if you got a problem, come to me. If you want me to taste your wine, give it to me for my mouth.
47:20 Laci Mosley? So being locked up never stopped him before. And once again, he continued scheming. Allen identified several businesses that were owed unclaimed oil and gas royalties, and then filed fake documents to act as the representative of those companies. The result of the scheme? He claimed more than $700,000 in oil and gas royalties for himself. He said, "The baby is the victim."
47:45 Laci Mosley? He registered more than 40 new companies with the state.
47:49 Speaker 03 No.
47:49 Laci Mosley? But none of the companies appeared to do anything except provide a place to hide money. So he had to hide this $700,000 because you in prison, boo, like...
47:57 Speaker 03 Is Allen the problem, or are we the problem?
47:59 Laci Mosley? I don't know.
48:00 Speaker 03 I can't tell. It's like, why is he able to do all of this? I can't tell who's the problem.
48:05 Laci Mosley? Y'all can't stop him. You like the mask. Somebody stop him. Also a gay villain.
48:12 Speaker 03 Yes, come on. Absolutely. 1,000,000, that suit, that yellow suit, that's a home op.
48:17 Laci Mosley? At the end of 2018, a routine prisoner count at the federal prison in Colorado revealed that Allen was missing.
48:28 Speaker 03 Oh, plot twist.
48:31 Laci Mosley? He'd escaped, bouncing out of there like one of those bad chicks that started his life a crime.
48:39 Speaker 03 Wow, he got out.
48:42 Laci Mosley? He was like, "Roll, bounce."
48:46 Laci Mosley? "Oh, put a skate, say."
48:51 Laci Mosley? So it turns out that Allen simply stole a Bureau of Prisons truck and drove away. He even used his secret prison phone to snap a selfie in the truck all his way out?
49:03 Speaker 03 No. This is like Succession where like, I know everyone is bad, but I'm still kind of rooting for them. And I feel myself still kind of rooting for Allen. Like, Allen is bold. And that's not a bad selfie. I could not, that, my selfies do not look as good as that.
49:20 Laci Mosley? And this is on a prison, like, flip, like, a booty phone? And it's coming out this clear?
49:24 Speaker 03 And he's still in the jumpsuit. And the shirt is white. And the teeth are goo- Wow.
49:31 Laci Mosley? And I, it looks like he been doing skincare in prison. What were you putting on? Are you sluggish? Like, what were you?
49:36 Speaker 03 Oh my goodness.
49:38 Laci Mosley? I don't know, that's iconic. So he drove the truck to a U-Haul center and rented a van using a fake license. He then ditched the prison truck at a nearby building, leaving his prison uniform inside.
49:50 Speaker 03 But didn't the truck say prison on it?
49:52 Laci Mosley? Don't worry about that sweetheart, it's U-Haul. They let anybody walk in there and drive like a massive ass truck with no skills or training. You think U-Haul give a fuck about a prison van?
50:03 Speaker 03 You right. My bad, you right. You absolutely right.
50:06 Laci Mosley? They said U-Haul. They never said we check. They didn't say none of that.
50:14 Speaker 03 You right, you right. I'm so wrong for interrupting. I'm so sorry. You're absolutely right. U-Haul, Jesus. They didn't give a fuck about that prison truck.
50:21 Laci Mosley? They did. Clearly. So, he left his prison uniform inside along, because he changed at a nearby building. So he leaves his prison uniform inside that building, along with Walmart and Target shopping bags. Presumably, he walked into the stores in his prison uniform to buy new clothes and supplies. And now...
50:42 Speaker 03 And nobody stopped him? That's whiteness.
50:45 Laci Mosley? It is whiteness. Because they're like, maybe he's acting in a production.
50:48 Speaker 03 Literally.
50:49 Laci Mosley? Or maybe, or maybe they don't know what a prison uniform looks like, because we all think it's an orange jumpsuit. He was in blue.
50:54 Speaker 03 Oh, T. They were like, you're a nurse.
50:57 Laci Mosley? And if you were formally in prison, I don't see you snitching on somebody walking in there in prison uniform. I feel like they'd be like, good for you.
51:04 Speaker 03 Honestly, like, T, look at you. I see you. Get your, get your new clothes. Get your new clothes.
51:08 Laci Mosley? Ballin'. I see you. Run away. Right.
51:12 Speaker 03 Fellow felon, aisle 12, my love.
51:14 Laci Mosley? Fellow felon. Fellow felon. Fellow fellow felon. Oh, I'm taking that. That's gonna be in one of y'all's books. I'm doing another 100 book signing, because y'all sold those out so fast. So, so one of you will get hello fellow felon.
51:30 Laci Mosley? I love it. So the U-Haul rental van was later found abandoned behind a Waffle House, eight hundred miles from the prison. But Alan's whereabouts remained unknown for years to come. I know he went to Waffle House. He got hands. He can go to Waffle House.
51:45 Speaker 03 Come on.
51:47 Laci Mosley? And, and nobody at Waffle House is gonna check if you are on the land.
51:50 Speaker 03 Absolutely not. Waffle House really is one for the team. They not such on nobody at Waffle House. Honestly, they're navigating their own felonies.
51:56 Laci Mosley? Crimes.
51:57 Speaker 03 Crimes.
51:58 Laci Mosley? They, they like on the, on the sheet, when like on the application be like, are you a convicted felon? If you say no, they be like, you're not right for Waffle House.
52:08 Laci Mosley? Cause when them prison alarms go on, cause we do have them at Waffle House as well. You're gonna need to be able to fight.
52:13 Speaker 03 You need to know how to swing those hands, baby. If you can't do that, you can't be here.
52:17 Laci Mosley? And keep frying those eggs at the same time. You're not Waffle House material. If you can't worry about getting shanked while you're flipping a pancake, you cannot wear it here.
52:26 Speaker 03 You don't, you don't have what it takes, baby, unfortunately.
52:29 Laci Mosley? So sorry. So live in the high life in Palm Beach. The trail to find Alan had gone cold for five years. Even with a $5,000 reward offered for any info leading to his capture. He finally was captured in August of 2023 by federal marshals when a tipster spotted a photo of Alan at a fancy fundraiser in the Palm Beach Daily News.
52:51 Speaker 03 The pink shades.
52:52 Laci Mosley? Alan was dressed, yes, the pink shades, they come back again. Alan was dressed Palm Beach chic in a pink shirt, pink blazer and pink tinted glasses. A fit'll give you away every time.
53:03 Speaker 03 Every single time. But who's the hottie that he's with?
53:06 Laci Mosley? Y'all ain't seen American Gangster. Oh yeah, he's cute.
53:08 Speaker 03 He's cute.
53:09 Laci Mosley? And he up on him like, my man, my man.
53:12 Speaker 03 Yeah, he up on him like daddy's friend. Oof, but is he paying? Oof.
53:16 Laci Mosley? But also Alan, why are you getting so cocky as to have a press photographer? You know, a photo on an iPhone is not going to the newspaper. But somebody holding a professional camera might.
53:27 Speaker 03 Come on, they gonna publish that.
53:29 Laci Mosley? It had been five years, he got too cocky with it.
53:30 Speaker 03 He got cocky.
53:32 Laci Mosley? And then somebody's hating on you because they're not at this event and they turned you in.
53:37 Speaker 03 I thought, I think he thought the shades were gonna- Cover him up. I feel like he thought the shades really, with the pink shades on, I think he thought no one would see his eyes.
53:45 Laci Mosley? Why didn't he take a step from his ex-second wife and dye his hair?
53:49 Speaker 03 Period.
53:49 Laci Mosley? Where's the clairvoyant?
53:50 Speaker 03 Come on.
53:51 Laci Mosley? You can't be a blonde and a criminal, babe.
53:53 Speaker 03 No. Oh, you absolutely cannot, honey. We need the red hair.
53:56 Laci Mosley? Give up the blonde. I don't care if it's natural. Looks natural, give it up.
53:59 Speaker 03 Give me red hair. Give me blue hair, honey. Give me something, something that says that can't be Alan. You know what I'm saying?
54:03 Laci Mosley? If he had given us a jet black, yeah, it would have been giving like Four Seasons Total Landscaping Rudy Giuliani drip. But at least you might have been safe. You would have looked like a mobster.
54:13 Speaker 03 Yeah, and nobody would want to fuck with you. He looks too nice. I'm throwing him to jail immediately.
54:19 Laci Mosley? Somebody hated on him, and I hate that for him.
54:21 Speaker 03 I, you know.
54:21 Laci Mosley? He was living large in Florida, though. Under the alias Jacob Turner. He was driving a Rolls Royce.
54:28 Speaker 03 What?
54:29 Laci Mosley? Having caviar lunches.
54:31 Speaker 03 What?
54:31 Laci Mosley? You know how you just eat fish eggs for lunch? Having Beluga caviar lunches.
54:35 Speaker 03 Oh, my God.
54:36 Laci Mosley? And moving into a new million-dollar house with his much younger boyfriend Kevin, who we see here.
54:42 Speaker 03 And Kevin is smiling like he's about to move into a million-dollar house. That's what that, that smile is giving.
54:48 Laci Mosley? That's the smile you have when you get out of a Rolls Royce.
54:51 Speaker 03 Yes.
54:51 Laci Mosley? And you just had caviar lunch.
54:53 Speaker 03 Yes, that is what's happening. Oh, my God.
54:56 Laci Mosley? And at the nearby croquet club where Jacob, AKA Alan, was a regular.
55:00 Speaker 03 Croquet?
55:02 Laci Mosley? Listen, this man was meant to be rich.
55:05 Speaker 03 This man.
55:06 Laci Mosley? Some people are meant to be rich.
55:08 Speaker 03 He's in a tryst.
55:10 Laci Mosley? He got croquet.
55:11 Speaker 03 He got croquet.
55:12 Laci Mosley? Caviar.
55:12 Speaker 03 Polo.
55:15 Speaker 03 He was meant to be rich, and he knew it. And the graphic design was, the business was moving too slow. I understand, Alan.
55:21 Laci Mosley? For, for his lifestyle. He couldn't build it fast enough. He was like, I need to be rich today. Like, in the next hour.
55:28 Speaker 03 Yeah.
55:28 Laci Mosley? In the next hour, I need to be rich.
55:30 Speaker 03 I need to be rich, so we gotta scam.
55:32 Laci Mosley? What are we gonna do?
55:34 Speaker 03 Croquet.
55:36 Laci Mosley? And he was a regular there. His wealthy widow friends described him as a bit of new money, but a whole lot of fun.
55:44 Speaker 03 His wealthy widow friends?
55:47 Laci Mosley? Widow friends. So he was that girl, right? So he would hang out with all the widows. And they were like, he was new money, but he was a whole lot of fun. We'd be like, oh, Jacob.
55:58 Speaker 03 They love the gays. Listen, they love a gay.
56:00 Laci Mosley? They love the gays. They love a gay.
56:04 Speaker 03 They love a gay. Oh, my God. Okay.
56:06 Laci Mosley? And that new money, I think they're talking about his flashiness.
56:09 Speaker 03 Sure.
56:10 Laci Mosley? He's not doing quiet luxury. He said, baby, loud luxury.
56:12 Speaker 03 Loud, loud, loud.
56:14 Laci Mosley? It's like, luxury!
56:17 Speaker 03 Opulence. You own everything. Yes.
56:22 Laci Mosley? He walked in and was like, money, money, money, ma.
56:26 Laci Mosley? And I love that. Everybody don't gotta be quiet luxury, okay? I like to be quiet some days. I like to be loud others.
56:32 Speaker 03 Other days, absolutely.
56:33 Laci Mosley? You know, do what you want to do. So he had conned the wealthy Palm Beach community into believing his oil tycoon backstory and had been hanging out with powerful Mar-a-Lago-adjacent people, including then-Speaker of the House Kevin McCarthy. You better not be a log cabin Republican.
56:54 Speaker 03 Damn.
56:55 Laci Mosley? Now, listen, I'm not on your side because you date too young.
56:58 Speaker 03 Yeah, that's really gay villain. That is actually really gay villain lore. Yeah.
57:03 Laci Mosley? You know what? If you're gonna be a villain, you gotta do villainry, I guess.
57:07 Speaker 03 I guess.
57:08 Laci Mosley? I hate it. I want him to be like a good gay villain, but I guess that doesn't really exist in villainry because of the whole villain word. Ugh, why is he standing over there with that blazer? Also, like, what happened to you having some style? You start hanging out with Kevin McCarthy and now you're wearing these, like, what is this blazer?
57:27 Speaker 03 Kevin toned it down a little bit. I want the loud luxury.
57:30 Laci Mosley? Yeah, boo.
57:31 Speaker 03 Boo. At least khaki. I've never seen somebody khaki pants in one photo in my life. This is crazy.
57:36 Laci Mosley? And you know where they live. It's like, you know I had to do it to them. You know, they the freshest, the freshest death. When people see them coming there with that khaki.
57:44 Speaker 03 Them khaki. The freshest.
57:47 Laci Mosley? Cakes. They're like, oh, get the tray of cold lobster out.
57:52 Speaker 03 Oh, that cake, honey.
57:54 Laci Mosley? I bet you that cake is expensive.
57:56 Speaker 03 You know, that cake is probably, yeah, and the shoes with the ankle cleavage, that's the one thing, when, when the ankles are out, you know, they rich. When the men want to show you their ankles in a slip on, a slip on?
58:07 Laci Mosley? No, those are the two gays in the picture, because Kevin is, they're both flanking McCarthy.
58:12 Speaker 03 You're right, oh my god, that's right, they're gay, rich gays.
58:15 Laci Mosley? So they're given like.
58:16 Speaker 03 Crazy.
58:17 Laci Mosley? We don't need socks, or, or we have invisible socks because we're rich. So Alan is currently awaiting trial for mail fraud, wire fraud, and escaping custody, and could be sentenced to another twenty years. He has pled not guilty.
58:34 Speaker 03 Uh, interesting.
58:36 Laci Mosley? I mean.
58:38 Speaker 03 Interesting.
58:39 Laci Mosley? If they left the truck out, and I got lost, I thought I was still driving around the prison. And then once I realized I didn't see no more prison signs, I was like, well, I guess I gotta go to Palm Beach, Florida.
58:54 Laci Mosley? I'm lost.
58:54 Speaker 03 Just running like an errand, I was like trying to move one thing from one side of the prison to the other side of prison, and I got lost, and so I went out.
59:00 Laci Mosley? And then the gate was open, so then I was like, maybe this is where I'm supposed to drive it.
59:04 Speaker 03 Yeah, I thought you wanted me to put it, the truck over there, and then, and then I got to the U-Haul, and we were out of gas, so I got a different truck.
59:11 Laci Mosley? And I was gonna come back, but then I was like, I don't have GPS, so like, where is the prison?
59:16 Speaker 03 Yeah, so I just was driving because I thought my senses, my spidey, my gay spidey senses would help me come back.
59:21 Laci Mosley? And I'm from Palm Beach, Florida, so I was like, well, let me just go home real quick and call the prison.
59:25 Speaker 03 Yeah, yeah, tell y'all where I am.
59:27 Laci Mosley? And get a map.
59:28 Speaker 03 Yeah, y'all could send me a little, a little MapQuest, and I would drive back.
59:32 Laci Mosley? And I called the prison and nobody picked up, like, honestly, y'all gotta get more phone operators.
59:37 Speaker 03 Absolutely, you need more, you need more people answering the phones here, you can't, you know, because sometimes prisoners get out, and we trying to get back, and I'm trying to do what's right.
59:48 Speaker 03 Customer service is terrible.
59:53 Speaker 03 You gotta pick up that phone, baby. Better customer service.
59:55 Laci Mosley? This is all y'all. This is on the prison, to be honest. Honestly, I need to sue the prison because why did y'all let me out like that?
1:00:03 Speaker 03 That's crazy. I don't know where I'm at. That's crazy. I could, something really could have happened to me.
1:00:07 Laci Mosley? I didn't have no clothes, I had no resources. Why did y'all let me out like that?
1:00:10 Speaker 03 Why did y'all, that's crazy, no fool. I was scared. I was terrified.
1:00:16 Speaker 03 So I had to go back to Palm Beach where it's safe.
1:00:19 Laci Mosley? Yeah, emotional distress. I'm suing the prison.
1:00:22 Speaker 03 Yeah, the croquet was, I don't know how I got the croquet, but you know.
1:00:25 Laci Mosley? Honestly, that was something that my therapist told me for the PTSD that I had for getting lost from the prison will really help because croquet is really soothing.
1:00:33 Speaker 03 It's immersive therapy. It's like, it's like art therapy a little bit. So I got into the croquet with the widow ladies who had also experienced PTSD. So we were all there together.
1:00:40 Laci Mosley? Yeah, they experienced loss as well. That's why they were my friends.
1:00:43 Speaker 03 Yes, we're all experiencing loss. I lost the jail. They lost their husbands, which is very much the same, you know? Because this jail felt like a husband to me.
1:00:51 Laci Mosley? It did. I wanted to be there. I was married too. You see how many times I went? Clearly, I love it.
1:00:58 Speaker 03 I love it. I'm always coming back every other day because I love it here. But you don't love me and I, I need to go where I am loved and valued. And that was the croquet with the widows, so.
1:01:07 Laci Mosley? Yeah.
1:01:08 Speaker 03 Now I understand how he scammed. I feel like, I feel like we really got into his head.
1:01:12 Laci Mosley? I think we did get into his head. I think he just did like a psychology deep dive into Alan slash Jacob slash all his other names, Brian slash Hen. Oh, well, thank you so much for being here, Brandon. This was so much fun.
1:01:25 Speaker 03 Thank you for having me. This was a joy. I love you so much.
1:01:29 Laci Mosley? I love you too.
1:01:29 Speaker 03 I'm so proud of you, by the way.
1:01:30 Laci Mosley? I'm so proud of you too.
1:01:31 Speaker 03 Congratulations on everything.
1:01:33 Laci Mosley? You too.
1:01:34 Speaker 03 Thank you.
1:01:35 Laci Mosley? We're just gonna have a friend up. I'm like, I'm so proud of you. I'm so proud of you. I love what you're doing. This, I love you.
1:01:40 Speaker 03 And luckily, for tea, like, we really do love what each other's doing.
1:01:43 Laci Mosley? We do.
1:01:44 Speaker 03 And that's the best feeling, you know, to have community. And thank you for always welcoming me to your platform and for being such an incredible friend. I'm saying this on air because you deserve your flowers in public, on air. I love you so much. Thank you, thank you, thank you.
1:01:57 Laci Mosley? I love you too. And I thank you too for holding so much space for me and not in the corny way that y'all was holding space for the wicked soundtrack.
1:02:06 Speaker 03 Real space.
1:02:07 Laci Mosley? With a real way of like, you know what I've been through. And I really appreciate you checking on me. I love you so much. I'm so proud of all the things that you're doing and like, keep going.
1:02:17 Speaker 03 Yes.
1:02:17 Laci Mosley? We love to see you go, okay?
1:02:19 Speaker 03 Yes.
1:02:20 Laci Mosley? We hate to watch you leave, but we also like to watch you leave because you got them cakes.
1:02:22 Speaker 03 Yes.
1:02:23 Laci Mosley? So.
1:02:25 Speaker 03 These disrespectful ass, okay?
1:02:28 Laci Mosley? So, we always ask, Brandon, where would you like to be found? Any socials, anything you want to plug?
1:02:34 Speaker 03 Yes, well, for sure, my podcast, you know, Scam Goddess, and then you come over to me for a little bit, Sex Goddess, uh, Tell Me Something Messy, which comes out every Thursday on the iHeart Podcast, wherever you get your podcasts. And then you can find me on Instagram at Brandon Kyle Goodman, or my website, BrandonKyleGoodman.com. And I'm always doing fun stuff and writing and telling way too much of my business.
1:02:56 Laci Mosley? Always doing fun stuff. It's so fun over there. It's so fun everywhere Brandon is. And y'all, if you want to find us, D I B A L A C I D, Belacy, on all platforms. And if you want to buy my book, Scam Goddess, it's out everywhere now. I can't say which store to go to because the book girlies be fighting.
1:03:15 Speaker 03 They really do.
1:03:17 Laci Mosley? You can get it online if it's not in your country yet. And I can finally tell you all, and if you don't see it on socials, you'll hear it here, Scam Goddess, the docu-series television show where I travel across America and interview people who have experienced these wild scams. You don't know, I might sit down with a scammer. It's fun, it's funny, and then also sometimes it is heartbreaking. But that show, Scam Goddess, comes out on Freeform January 15th and next day on Hulu. So, we got a show, y'all congregation. We got a TV
1:04:01 Laci Mosley? show. Yes, you can finally see Scam Goddess. And stop asking me for clips of the podcast.
1:04:09 Laci Mosley? January 15th, Freeform, next day, Hulu. Yes, congregation. I want to thank you guys for sticking with me through the countries and through Ireland and all of the things. I really appreciate you. And I'm so excited for what's to come. And I want y'all to get out there and stay bouncing those checks.
1:04:38 Laci Mosley? This has been an Earwolf Production in association with Team Coco. Scam Goddess stars and is hosted by me, Lacey Mosley, AKA Scam Goddess. Our producer is Scott Zani and our audio engineer is Rich Garcia. Research for the show is done by Kate Doyle. Stay scamming.
1:04:58 Speaker 00 Cash Flow Crunch? OnDeck's small business line of credit gives your business immediate access to funds up to $200,000 right when you need it. Cover seasonal dips, manage payroll, restock inventory, or tackle unexpected expenses without missing a beat. With flexible draws, transparent pricing, and control over repayment, get funded quickly and confidently. Apply today at ondeck.com. Funds could be available as soon as tomorrow. Depending on certain loan attributes, your business loan may be issued by OnDeck or Celtic Bank. OnDeck does not lend in North Dakota. All loans and amounts subject to lender approval.
1:05:29 Speaker 05 Network freedom and flexibility. That's what you want in a healthcare plan. With a Humana Medicare Advantage PPO plan, you can see any doctor in the country who accepts Medicare, including specialists. No referrals, no kidding. Learn more at gethumana.com. See any doctor who accepts Medicare and is willing to bill Humana. Humana PPOs may not be available in all areas. Benefits and costs share may vary. Humana is a Medicare Advantage PPO organization with a Medicare contract. Enrollment in any Humana plan depends on contract renewal.
1:05:59 Speaker 01 Stop listening to your doctor and start listening to Good Science, the new comedy podcast hosted by RFK Jr., played by Anthony Ataminick from Comedy Central's The President Show. Extra Strength Tylenol causes extra strength autism. The Good Science Podcast tackles all of RFK Jr.'s fringe ideas. Babies love measles. Listen to the peptide of podcasts, Good Science, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Listen or you'll die.
Previous Fraud Friday: The Liar in Literature w/ Atsuko Okatsuka Next Fraud Friday: The Crooked Car Executive w/ Bryan Safi Page updated November 5, 2026 · transcript and summary are machine-generated