Golf Queens & Scam Kings w/ Katherine Ryan

Laci welcomes comedian and presenter Katherine Ryan (The Duchess), visiting all the way from England. Together, the gals discuss how motherhood can sometimes feel like a scam, Katherine’s husband’s diabolical history of fast-food drive-through scams, and how, in the world of women’s professional golf, scammers are impersonating popular pro golfers, putting both fans and the real athletes at risk. Stay schemin’! CON-gregation, catch Laci's TV Show Scam Goddess on Hulu! Keep the scams coming and snitch on your friends by emailing us at [email protected]. Follow on Instagram: Scam Goddess Pod: @scamgoddesspod Laci Mosley: @divalaci Katherine Ryan: @kathbum Research by Kathryn Doyle SOURCES https://web.archive.org/web/20250819020136/https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6554056/2025/08/15/womens-golf-catfishing-social-media-stalking-cases/ https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/stunning-pro-golfer-and-tiktok-star-hailey-ostrom-details-terrifying-stalker-ordeal-after-man-turned-up-to-her-home/ https://nypost.com/2026/01/09/us-news/jason-statham-lookalike-wanted-in-irvine-whole-foods-heist/ https://www.foxla.com/news/caviar-thief-irvine-whole-foods

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• 3:15Laci Mosley?

  What's poppin', congregation? It's your girl, Lacey Mosley, AKA Scam Goddess, back with another episode of the comedy podcast all about robbery, fraud, and those who practice it. Sometimes we love them. Sometimes we hate them. We'll see along the way, but you all out there, congregation? I'm very what? Yes, excited, thrilled. Today, we have a Canadian comedian. Come on, oh! Writer, presenter, and actress on the show. You've seen her on Candidates Got Talent, serving as a judge alongside Howie Mandel and Shania Twain. She's also known for her two global Netflix comedy specials, In Trouble and Glitter Room, as well as Mrs. and firstborn daughter for Sky TV. And you certainly enjoyed her on Eight Out of Ten Cats,

• 4:00Laci Mosley?

  A League of Their Own, yes, Would I Lie to You, The Duchess, Romantic Getaway, and so much more. Come on, this Catherine be workin', congregation. Please welcome Katherine Ryan to the show.

• 4:11Speaker 06

  We are not used to credits. We don't do that in the UK. So I am Canadian, but I'm based in London, England. And we're just too embarrassed. And you come to America and you sound like this formidable person who's achieved so much.

• 4:24Laci Mosley?

  I mean, you have.

• 4:25Speaker 06

  I haven't really.

• 4:26Laci Mosley?

  I appreciate your humility, though. But I love this because we always do credits here because people will obviously not be able to get enough of you and then they'll be able to go watch something that you're on or whatever. Yeah, but sometimes credits are weird. I feel like at stand-up shows, credits can kind of be weird sometimes. And it's also weird if like somebody else comes up and they're like, oh, you've seen them on Stranger Things. And like every huge show and then the next person, they're like, you've seen him around town.

• 4:52Speaker 06

  He's on YouTube.

• 4:55Laci Mosley?

  Like, I hate it to be around town, but coming up like in American like stand-up, sometimes he was around town. And then you got a couple of credits and people will be like, okay, we'll listen to you more, I guess. I know it's a strange thing.

• 5:06Speaker 06

  It's nice, though. It makes you feel like very positive coming here and people are just so nice.

• 5:12Laci Mosley?

  Oh, it's nice. I don't know about that. But

• 5:16Laci Mosley?

  the state of our country right now, very not nice.

• 5:19Speaker 06

  I mean, as a whole, no, your PR is not great at the minute.

• 5:22Laci Mosley?

  No. It hasn't ever really been.

• 5:24Speaker 06

  Well, you've had better times and worse times.

• 5:26Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 5:27Speaker 06

  The Obama times were good times.

• 5:29Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, that was our scam. Like Obama was still doing war crimes.

• 5:32Speaker 06

  This is it. Obama was a scam.

• 5:35Laci Mosley?

  I mean, you just can't be the president of the United States and not be a war criminal. That's kind of our thing. Like, so, you know, he was, he had great speeches and great vibes and he did do a lot of great stuff. I love the ACA. I'm just saying, like, when you sign up for that job, it's like head murderer. You could be like, well, I want to murder less, but it's like, you still got to murder some.

• 5:52Speaker 06

  You're bought and you don't, you know, there's a

• 5:54Laci Mosley?

  It's kind of the scam of it.

• 5:55Speaker 06

  An amazing MP in the UK called Jess Phillips. And she was leader of the Labour Party. We didn't think the podcast was going to go this direction. It'll be brief.

• 6:04Laci Mosley?

  No, no, I love it.

• 6:04Speaker 06

  But she stepped down and I was like, why? Because I love Jess and she's so moral and she's just great. But I think she stepped down because she learned once she got to that position, like, oh.

• 6:15Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 6:16Speaker 06

  Everybody's bought. Like, you can't do it in a good way.

• 6:19Laci Mosley?

  No. Because I think like, we always talk about the scam of politics. And people have seen that viral meme. It's like, I wish politicians had to walk around with all their sponsors on them like a NASCAR jacket. Like, who's paying for you to be in office? So we just know who you're bought by. But I mean, that's a part of the scam and everybody's bought into it. We're like, well, we just gotta keep inching along.

• 6:39Speaker 06

  We open with a scam so fast, Lacey.

• 6:41Laci Mosley?

  I mean, that's what we do here. But I have to ask you personally, what's your relationship with scams? Do you love them? Do you hate them? Have you had anything happen to you or run any? It could literally be anything.

• 6:50Speaker 06

  Okay, well, I'm currently being victimized by the greatest scam uh, in the universe, and that is motherhood.

• 6:57Laci Mosley?

  Oh, yeah.

• 6:58Speaker 06

  Uh, such a scam, a patriarchy scam. And you enter into it and you think this is gonna be existentially rewarding for me.

• 7:04Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 7:04Speaker 06

  And I'll do half of the labor and my husband will also contribute.

• 7:08Laci Mosley?

  Oh.

• 7:09Speaker 06

  And even if he tries, a lot of it falls on the mom, especially a working mom. And you can't have it all. And I think that's a really important message to get out. You can have it all if like the all is cellulite resentment. You know what I mean?

• 7:23Laci Mosley?

  I feel like you can have it all, but not at the same exact time.

• 7:26Speaker 06

  That's right.

• 7:26Laci Mosley?

  It's like, I got some of the all over here.

• 7:28Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 7:28Laci Mosley?

  And then next year, I'm gonna have some of this all. And then

• 7:30Speaker 06

  That's it.

• 7:31Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. I think we have to look at all as like, it's not all happening simultaneously.

• 7:36Speaker 06

  Not at, no. And so I've had, uh, three kids in the last five years. Which is a choice that I made. I don't know what I was thinking.

• 7:44Laci Mosley?

  You got a lot of unemployed roommates.

• 7:45Speaker 06

  I do. Everyone in my house has been inside me. I feel like it's some type of psychosis, like long COVID or something. Where I just went, I'm gonna breed now and it's a scam.

• 7:58Laci Mosley?

  I mean, how old are the children? What's the oldest?

• 8:00Speaker 06

  Sixteen.

• 8:01Laci Mosley?

  Okay, so we got somebody who can help out a little bit.

• 8:04Speaker 06

  And she's wonderful. And I really, I love my children, but I should have stopped there because I had one chic daughter and she was portable and she was amazing and she was my best friend and we could do anything. And then I was victimized by the other scam, which is marriage. I reconnected with my high school boyfriend and it was meant to be a one night stand. But he really is a great guy. I fell in love with him all over again. We were married nine months later. And then I just was like, oh, another scam. I'm 40, or not now, I'm 42, but I was around 40. And I think that women get this push to be like, well, what are you gonna do? Are you gonna have kids or not? Your time's running out. And instead of taking a breath and maybe having one more child, I just want bananas with it. And I had as many as I could.

• 8:49Laci Mosley?

  I mean, I feel like I haven't gotten to that age yet, but what I do hear from people is like, especially black women, it's like, what are you gonna do? Either have a kid or go to grad school. Go to grad school, get another degree. So I have a lot of friends who are black women in their like late 30s and early 40s, who like went back to grad school, just got another degree.

• 9:08Speaker 06

  Love that for black women.

• 9:11Laci Mosley?

  Why? But also, okay. Now, now we got a, you know, a forensic accountant in the family, like, great.

• 9:17Speaker 06

  I love that.

• 9:18Laci Mosley?

  But so, back to you, like, so you have like all these children. I mean, obviously you've still maintained being able to work so, so much. I do think there is a little bit of a scam of like everything falling on the mother. Like, cause I don't, and, and I don't want to shade your man, I'm sure he's lovely.

• 9:34Speaker 06

  No, and I'm not shading him.

• 9:35Laci Mosley?

  Going down the rabbit hole of like intentional incompetence or weaponized incompetence, where it's like, oh, I could do this thing. But the scam of it is that if I do it really poorly, eventually you'll just stop asking me to do it. And then I'll, you'll do it yourself.

• 9:51Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 9:51Laci Mosley?

  And sometimes I wonder with husbands if they're like doing that on purpose. Cause it's like, you don't, you know how to do stuff.

• 9:58Speaker 06

  Right. There's a big conversation about weaponized incompetence. In our house, I'm the one doing that. So my husband's quite particular about how the dishwasher is loaded. And I just chuck anything in, like, I don't mind.

• 10:10Laci Mosley?

  That's beautiful.

• 10:11Speaker 06

  Yeah, thank you.

• 10:12Laci Mosley?

  Women in STEM. I hope you're just sitting the plates like right on top of all the little prongs that are sitting up. Just like surface area flat.

• 10:20Speaker 06

  That's it. I'm a creative genius, actually. So this is where they go. And he's always complaining about having to clean the filter and I don't do it properly. And now he's like, forget it. I'll do it. I'll load the dishwasher. And now that's his job. So I've learned how to be a man.

• 10:33Laci Mosley?

  That's beautiful. Scam them back. We know every man's a scam. Sometimes you get a good scam going and I love those scam men who are real good scam men. But we gotta still scam them back.

• 10:44Speaker 06

  Every man is a scam man. So I asked my husband before coming here today, because we are such fans of the podcast, what his relationship is with scamming.

• 10:52Laci Mosley?

  Oh, I'd love to know.

• 10:52Speaker 06

  He told me about some bold scams. Like if he had told me this pre-wedding day, I might have reconsidered. So one of the scams that my husband runs, and this is pathetic because...

• 11:03Laci Mosley?

  I don't know. It sounds good to me so far.

• 11:05Speaker 06

  He and his friends, what they like to do is turn up at a drive-through and they'll say, oh, by the way, like we were here yesterday and we ordered three cheeseburgers and four fries and we only got one fry and two cheeseburgers. And every single time they'll give him what he counts as like a free cheeseburger and the replacement fries. So he'll pretend that items have been missing on an order just to get a free order. And I said, why would you do that? And he says, for the thrill of the chase.

• 11:32Laci Mosley?

  Oh, my gosh. He said it for the love. I love your husband. He said it for the love of the game.

• 11:34Speaker 06

  The love of the game. And then in university, he had an even wilder... These are all like drive-through based scams.

• 11:42Laci Mosley?

  And you know what? You gotta be mobile.

• 11:44Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 11:44Laci Mosley?

  Like that's the great way, the best way to scam. That's all I'm like, don't give people money if they're on a motorcycle. They too mobile. You're not getting it. So the other one is...

• 11:52Speaker 06

  He would get one of his friends to exit the vehicle. And then he and his remaining friend would approach the drive-through window in the vehicle. They'd make their order. They would then go to collect at the next window. And the friend who had exited the vehicle would just run by and take the order. Like just, just as the woman is handing it out the window, he'd just fly by.

• 12:20Laci Mosley?

  Okay, your husband is very unserious and I love it. I love it because who thinks of this?

• 12:25Speaker 06

  Exactly my thoughts, like this crazed man just runs between the car and the drive thru and takes it and then everybody goes, what? What just happened? What? And then they'll replace the order and then they get double of everything. He comes around the corner and picks up his friend again with the stolen.

• 12:41Laci Mosley?

  Oh.

• 12:42Speaker 06

  Like, what?

• 12:43Laci Mosley?

  I mean, I want to know, I need to study your husband's brain because the activities that are going on in here are just hilarious to me. I've actually never heard of someone doing this kind of elaborate play where they're like, okay, you get out and then you run past and I hope he's in costume. I hope he's got on like some, some rags or he's like screaming and hollering when he steals the bag and then your husband is the getaway driver.

• 13:05Speaker 06

  Yep.

• 13:06Laci Mosley?

  Feels very mobile.

• 13:07Speaker 06

  Very mobile.

• 13:08Laci Mosley?

  This is also giving me, is, is this a white man?

• 13:10Speaker 06

  He is very white, yeah.

• 13:11Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, is, is he tall?

• 13:13Speaker 06

  Yeah, he's not short.

• 13:15Laci Mosley?

  He got a long neck?

• 13:17Speaker 06

  No.

• 13:17Laci Mosley?

  Cause if he in the car, it's going, you know, it's going to appear like.

• 13:20Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 13:21Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, it's giving me attractive white man who was like, hey, I'm so sorry to do this, but we came here yesterday and yeah, we only got two of the four burgers that we ordered and we love this place. We would love to continue coming back. Like slight little threats, so.

• 13:34Speaker 06

  It is giving white man, yeah. He's like, life's been too easy for me. How can I shake things up?

• 13:38Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, but that's, but I like that he did it in a way that is, like, you know, you have like the white people who like, they're scared of every minority, they're scared of every, you know, they don't clutch their purse in everybody's elevator, but then they're also going to climb Everest. And I'm like, that makes no sense to me. Like you should have a fear of one over the other. So I like that he was like, this is my thrill. It's like, I'm going to do elaborate drive thru schemes at the Taco Bell.

• 14:02Speaker 06

  You would hate.

• 14:03Laci Mosley?

  Oh, yep, that's exactly what I pictured. Handsome, yes. Mm-hmm, he getting away with all the scams.

• 14:09Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 14:10Laci Mosley?

  They probably throwing in a little extra just cause.

• 14:13Speaker 06

  He is a tender swindler, for sure.

• 14:14Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, he's a fun guy, I can tell. Oh, this is so, everybody's so creative. I'm so glad that he like allowed you to share that on the show with us.

• 14:22Speaker 06

  Yeah, we had a little pre-production meeting before I.

• 14:26Laci Mosley?

  He's not out here, is he? Like, I'm gonna, I'm gonna walk out and-

• 14:29Speaker 06

  You never know. Clutch your bag tightly.

• 14:32Laci Mosley?

  I know, y'all, y'all hold on to the tapes, the bast-

• 14:36Laci Mosley?

  Cause they would let him in here. He could just be like, "I'm here on business." They wouldn't ask what business.

• 14:40Speaker 06

  No, no, white man business.

• 14:42Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, white man business. They'd be like, "Of course, of course."

• 14:44Speaker 06

  You would hate England because the poshest people, AKA the whitest colonizers there, they do all kinds of terrifying things, like you're saying. Like, they do climb Everest. They ski relentlessly.

• 14:56Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 14:57Speaker 06

  They hunt, they do the most dangerous things because they have no natural predators.

• 15:02Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. Once you're the apex-

• 15:04Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 15:04Laci Mosley?

  It's like, who, what am I gonna do?

• 15:06Speaker 06

  Exactly.

• 15:06Laci Mosley?

  I need a little thrill up my leg. Why don't we all drink whiskey and go out to the woods with guns? What could go wrong?

• 15:13Speaker 06

  Yes.

• 15:14Laci Mosley?

  I mean, I love it. I mean, I lived in London for a little while and I had-

• 15:17Speaker 06

  You did not. Why do I know this?

• 15:18Laci Mosley?

  Technically, I lived in the suburbs of London. I lived in even Broadway.

• 15:21Speaker 06

  Okay.

• 15:21Laci Mosley?

  But I, um, worked in Camden, so-

• 15:23Speaker 06

  Wow.

• 15:24Laci Mosley?

  Nice commute every day. But this was in college and I worked at Camden People's Theatre.

• 15:29Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 15:29Laci Mosley?

  And I had a mentor there. Her name was Freya. And she was like very, very focused on marrying outside of her class. And I guess she had married, she was dating some guy seriously who was like very posh. And so she would work on her accent every day.

• 15:44Speaker 06

  Oh, no.

• 15:44Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, literally.

• 15:46Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 15:47Laci Mosley?

  And she was British, but she knew her accent came from a different neighborhood, so she was-

• 15:51Speaker 06

  She told like this, like, "I'm a glamour, though."

• 15:53Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, a little like, yeah. And, and she wanted to talk more like. And I was like, okay, how, what is it more like? And I was listening, like, trying to learn too. But she was always practicing her, um, British accent. And then after a while, she just stopped coming to work. And I was just running the theater by myself. I was 20 years old. She just stopped coming to work. And I was like, "Bro," like, you can't, like, people would call me and be like, "Hey, we need this bill." I'm like, "I'm American, I don't know how to pay y'all." Like, "I don't know, shut the lights out, fight me." Like, "What do you want me to do?"

• 16:19Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 16:20Laci Mosley?

  But I was just still running the theater for like a good month while she was gallivanting, I suppose.

• 16:26Speaker 06

  Gallivanting with this posh man. See, it's tricky because obviously there's racism here and there's very much racism in England. But they've also got this extra layer of classism.

• 16:35Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 16:35Speaker 06

  And growing up in Canada, we didn't have that. Like, everyone, some people had money, some people didn't, but we had no aristocracy, obviously. And, um, they, they really divide themselves even more in England because they're like, "Well, I'm working class and she's posh." And then it's like, it was weird to get my head around when I first moved there.

• 16:53Laci Mosley?

  It also, but that's such a scam to me too, because like old money and new money. Like, baby, it's still money. It's all green. Mm-hmm. You're like, we go back to duh, duh, duh, duh, duh. I'm like, so you're telling me your family's incestuous probably? Like, what, is that a flex? Yeah. Like, yo, yo, your cousins be getting married? Like, I don't care. Um, but it is nice how people are always trying to make some kind of distinction between the classes. Like, I remember when like logos and stuff were like really popular amongst like upper class, like rich people. Yeah. Like, old money. And you would see a Gucci label, or you would see like a Prada label or whatever. And then once like the middle class starts to be able to like have access to that, they say, oh, that shit is ghetto. Throw that away. Throw it away. We're doing quiet luxury now. We're doing $5,000 white tees.

• 17:36Laci Mosley?

  And if you know, you know. No, but I, I do like delving into the class warfare sometimes because it's such a scam. And like how you can't ascend from one rank to the other. And, I mean, but whatever it takes for people to feel good about themselves, I guess. I know. I mean, that's why like so many people who are, you know, don't make a lot of money are like super religious and pious. It's like, they don't follow the rules of the Bible, but they like to talk about it because they're like, well, I'm rich in Jesus. So I'm better than you because I got Sky Daddy on my side. So, and Sky Daddy don't care about your account. Sky Daddy. I've never called him Sky Daddy, and I'm going to start. You should. Sky Daddy. That, and when I say people are trying to kill me, I'd be like, they trying to introduce me to Jesus. Trying to introduce me to Sky Dad.

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• 21:18Laci Mosley?

  Let's get into my favorite segment of this podcast, historic hoodwink. So this is where I will regale you with a famous con caper or group of criminals. If you, we'll see if you like them along the way, Catherine. You maybe hate them, I don't know. But yeah, let's get your opinions. So today, we're gonna be in the world of women's professional golf.

• 21:39Speaker 06

  Whoa, what a world.

• 21:41Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, a world that I don't know a ton about, but I hope it gets the WNBA treatment.

• 21:47Speaker 06

  It deserves it.

• 21:48Laci Mosley?

  It does, because like, I personally, I love going to WNBA games. The only bad thing about them starting to get more recognition is that like, I used to be able to get courtside seats to Liberty and it was like, I was tricking off and it was nothing.

• 22:03Laci Mosley?

  Now them prices are going up.

• 22:04Speaker 06

  You should be very anti-women's basketball then. You should take it down.

• 22:09Speaker 06

  As a lover.

• 22:10Laci Mosley?

  Pay them less and broadcast them no more. They're like, why is she, she's always at every game, but she's very anti the sport.

• 22:19Speaker 06

  For someone who hates it, she loves it.

• 22:21Laci Mosley?

  She loves it. I mean, that's most haters is you just love something in the opposite way. Cause why are you so dedicated to hating it?

• 22:27Speaker 06

  True.

• 22:28Laci Mosley?

  So when I learned that, did that ever help you? Like learning the scam of like people hating me, also just being a fan, really helped a lot.

• 22:36Speaker 06

  I think Cardi B has really been transformative in that respect because she's, well, I always had like quite thick skin. I was impervious to criticism. I think as a lot of us are, if we go into comedy, you have to have that innately anyway. But she's the first one who really put it out being like, you're obsessed with me. I would like feed it and I love it. She does.

• 22:59Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, you're right. I like that. So I mean, like women's golf, obviously, I mean, I don't know a ton about it. I'm not gonna presume how much you know about women's golf. I mean, I had heard of some pro golfers. The only one I knew who was like trying to get into the sport was like Trump's granddaughter. And I know that against my will.

• 23:17Speaker 06

  Oh, right.

• 23:18Laci Mosley?

  I didn't wanna know that.

• 23:19Speaker 06

  No.

• 23:21Laci Mosley?

  But so, um, there's some scammers now impersonating hot lady pro golfers like world number two player Nelly Korda, and they're putting the fans and real athletes in danger.

• 23:33Speaker 06

  Ooh.

• 23:34Laci Mosley?

  So is this Nelly?

• 23:35Speaker 06

  So wait a minute, is this a scam impersonation or this is her?

• 23:38Laci Mosley?

  So this is the real Nelly and she is a baddie. Wait, can we zoom in a little bit more? Is this Sports Illustrated?

• 23:43Speaker 06

  She looks great. Isn't it fun being a woman? We can be like, can you zoom in on that body?

• 23:48Laci Mosley?

  I'm looking respectfully.

• 23:49Speaker 06

  I did not know female golfers looked like that, like with respect

• 23:53Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 23:54Speaker 06

  to the lesbian community.

• 23:55Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 23:56Speaker 06

  I thought that it was more of a mask sport for women.

• 24:00Laci Mosley?

  I mean, it can be. I feel like it's like basketball. Like you got your baddies in basketball, but you also have your like more kind of butch queens in basketball.

• 24:09Speaker 06

  I mean, look at her.

• 24:10Laci Mosley?

  Another reason why I love women's basketball, because sometimes they be dating and they be on opposite teams. And I'm like, oh my God, heated rivalry?

• 24:15Speaker 06

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 24:17Laci Mosley?

  Yes. So I mean, I hope that they're doing that in golf too, y'all. Get together. Y'all start, I want to see like a fight. Um, why do we never want that with men? No, I would love to see like old golf dudes fight as well. I feel like it'd be the slowest fight ever, but really enjoyable and quiet.

• 24:31Speaker 06

  I'll tell you, my husband golfs relentlessly.

• 24:35Laci Mosley?

  My dad does too.

• 24:36Speaker 06

  Golfs and golfs and golfs. All right. So you're in the golf world.

• 24:39Laci Mosley?

  Oh, very much so. I got my first set of pings when I was eight.

• 24:42Speaker 06

  And did your dad try to make you a good golfer because he told you it was the language of business?

• 24:46Laci Mosley?

  Yes. And you know, he wasn't wrong because imagine the scholarships you could have

• 24:50Speaker 06

  if you had pursued golf. So did you not like it or you weren't good or both?

• 24:54Laci Mosley?

  Um, I didn't particularly enjoy it. I never really applied myself. I had, I liked the golf cups because they had hot pink candles.

• 25:00Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 25:01Laci Mosley?

  And I liked driving the golf cart. And my dad quickly saw that I was not interested in this. I'd be more likely to pick up the golf club and start singing into it and then to like actually be serious about it. And I know that probably bummed him out that neither of his girls golf.

• 25:14Speaker 06

  But imagine if you could, in addition to all the other things you do, wouldn't it be cool? Like I think it's badass to be a female golfer who's actually good because it would silence men.

• 25:24Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 25:24Speaker 06

  And I have seen a lot of clips online of women who are at the driving range and just by Being a woman on this earth, it signals a man to come and teach you what you're doing wrong.

• 25:34Laci Mosley?

  They're trying to get behind you and be like, move your hips this way, square up.

• 25:38Speaker 06

  And these are professional golfers who are much better. And then they watch a few swings and they go, oh, okay. But what I was gonna say about my husband, just a little gossip for you, watch your husbands, watch your dad when he's golfing. Is my, my husband started getting on with this other golfer in the neighborhood. You know how they can't really golf alone that much. They do foursomes, whatever. And then his friend was all over the press. He's actually a British swimmer in England. Olympic swimmer, maybe, I'm, I'm not sure, but he's got a public profile. Because, and I think this is very mean of the British tabloid press, but they followed him and they realized that near the golf course, he was dogging. Are you familiar with the term dogging in America?

• 26:16Laci Mosley?

  No.

• 26:17Speaker 06

  It means having sex in the woods with other men.

• 26:20Laci Mosley?

  Oh.

• 26:21Speaker 06

  It doesn't always have to be other men.

• 26:22Laci Mosley?

  We call it like cruising.

• 26:23Speaker 06

  Cruising. Oh, yes, of course, cruising. And so Bobby doesn't golf with him anymore, but golf is more heated rivalry than you know.

• 26:30Laci Mosley?

  Oh, of course. I mean, it's men who wanna just hang out with other men all the time, which I love that for you. I love that for you. Be bisexual, be gay, go in the woods, I guess, and, and do what you need to do. But, uh, but I mean, also like, I'm trying to imagine like how your husband, like, he was like, all right, um, we're headed to the next tee. And he's like, hold on, I'm, I'm, I'm gonna be right back. Y'all tee off, y'all tee off. I'm gonna just go to the woods real quick.

• 26:54Speaker 06

  Is eighteen holes not enough?

• 26:56Laci Mosley?

  Right. No, he's at nineteenth hole.

• 26:58Speaker 06

  Right. Or maybe my husband was involved. And maybe that is the true scam.

• 27:02Laci Mosley?

  No.

• 27:02Speaker 06

  Start with the drive through.

• 27:04Laci Mosley?

  No, your husband's too handsome. If he was involved, somebody would've got some pictures of him.

• 27:07Speaker 06

  True, true.

• 27:08Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. They would've got you. They would've took you right down with them.

• 27:10Speaker 06

  Yeah, yeah, they would have.

• 27:13Laci Mosley?

  Yo' face would've been there like.

• 27:14Speaker 06

  I would love that. Katherine Ryan is married to a gay man. It was kind of my destiny.

• 27:19Laci Mosley?

  I feel like it is mine, though. Like, I've dated way too many gay men. Now I vacation with them. Like we're friends.

• 27:25Speaker 06

  Why do they scam us?

• 27:26Laci Mosley?

  Cause we're divas.

• 27:27Speaker 06

  That's true.

• 27:28Laci Mosley?

  I mean, I'm, we gotta take a picture so people can see this fabulous outfit. Like, yes. I see it. I see why.

• 27:35Speaker 06

  I appreciate it.

• 27:35Laci Mosley?

  But so, we had this beautiful woman, right? We got Nellie Corder. And golf is for the hotties now. So like you were just saying, Catherine, like, we didn't know, but golf is for the hotties.

• 27:44Speaker 06

  I did not know.

• 27:45Laci Mosley?

  White granddads used to say the letters in golf stand for gentlemen only, ladies forbidden.

• 27:50Speaker 06

  Ooh.

• 27:52Laci Mosley?

  Not female woman haters club. Okay.

• 27:56Laci Mosley?

  So since the modern game was invented in Scotland in the fourteen hundreds, it's been mostly older guys and they've been out there stroking it on the green. Hmm hmm, whatever way they stroking it. But it started in the nineteen, but starting in like the nineteen fifties, US women got to play in their own version of pro golf, like in the league. Over the last thirty years, it's become a hot girl sport. Thanks to pioneering young female players like Michelle Wie, who's who like went pro at fifteen years old. I feel like I remember Michelle Wie.

• 28:26Speaker 06

  I do know her, yeah.

• 28:27Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, in two thousand five with sponsorships from Nike, Sony, Omega, Topgolf, and she opened in the US in two thousand five.

• 28:35Speaker 06

  Can I say, is it necessary for them to use a photo of her on her knees for this segment? Do you see what I'm saying?

• 28:42Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 28:42Speaker 06

  What photo? They're like, let's get Michelle Wie on her knees. How often is a golfer on their knees?

• 28:47Laci Mosley?

  I mean, when they're looking, she's probably about to putt.

• 28:49Speaker 06

  Of course, but do we see?

• 28:50Laci Mosley?

  She's got a putter in her hand.

• 28:51Speaker 06

  Do we see Tiger Woods in that pose? There's, that's almost like a paparazzi.

• 28:56Laci Mosley?

  But this does feel like it's like her booty look good and her legs look good.

• 28:59Speaker 06

  Yeah, yeah. It's like an upskirt shot, getting out of a taxi.

• 29:02Laci Mosley?

  A little bit, a little bit. But I will say, as a certified car carrying hoochie, I would want them to have that photo of me. I'd be like, yes, look at me, Betty. But you're right, look at this one with this, even her skirt is like a little, woo. But at the same time, I'm like, you gotta do, work what you got.

• 29:20Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 29:20Laci Mosley?

  So I'm not too mad at it, ladies. But so like, you know, Michelle Wie got it popping off. She has all these sponsorships. Um, she opened in the US in two thousand five. And then the rise of cute golf athleisure outfits like happened in twenty twenty three. And I remember that because it was like the golf athleisure outfits. And then most recently, we had the tennis athleisure outfits blow up. Okay, you think I'm getting on everybody's court the way I got tennis skirts and like little collared sleeveless shirts.

• 29:48Speaker 06

  Tennis is cute.

• 29:49Laci Mosley?

  Tennis is so cute.

• 29:50Speaker 06

  We used to have parties in high school themed golf pros and tennis hoes.

• 29:54Laci Mosley?

  Wow, I did that in college, CEOs and corporate hoes.

• 29:57Speaker 06

  Wow.

• 29:58Laci Mosley?

  But, but y'all were the head of the time doing it in high school.

• 30:00Speaker 06

  Yes.

• 30:02Laci Mosley?

  I love a golf frozen tennis house. This sounds very Canada.

• 30:06Speaker 06

  Yeah, it was.

• 30:08Laci Mosley?

  It's like holes?

• 30:09Speaker 06

  Hoes.

• 30:10Laci Mosley?

  Hoes.

• 30:11Speaker 06

  Hoes. Yeah, we got up to it.

• 30:12Laci Mosley?

  I was trying to get that.

• 30:13Speaker 06

  Quite young. We're from a small town, so.

• 30:15Laci Mosley?

  Oh, okay. So that was all there was to do was to, you know, hang out with the homies.

• 30:19Speaker 06

  And I'm older, so we were hoeing a lot younger than the young women are choosing to hoe now.

• 30:25Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, y'all got freedoms that we didn't too, because like, parents used to just like let your kids like, oh, we're going over someone's house. And then like, come back whenever. Okay, see you then. Like, I was very monitored. Um, I didn't get to really party in high school, but in college, no, I, I, I, I made up for lost time, for sure. But I love that. So a round of eighteen holes of golf does count as a hot girl walk now, which it should. Especially like if you're caddying or you have someone caddying for you. Like, if you're using a golf cart, it's not that much exercise. But if you're walking the green, it can be pretty intense.

• 31:00Speaker 06

  It's walking for like four or five hours.

• 31:02Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, and the hot ass sun.

• 31:03Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 31:04Laci Mosley?

  I always wanted to be a cart girl at one point. I thought that'd be a nice little scam, just like mix drinks and drive around.

• 31:11Speaker 06

  It's a great scam. I think you get tipped.

• 31:13Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 31:13Speaker 06

  And you could really like work it with these old men who are golfing and just drive around and drink lemonade.

• 31:20Laci Mosley?

  That's what I was trying to do. And then just be somebody's like personal assistant.

• 31:23Speaker 06

  Yeah. I wonder if the boys are excited about this hot female inclusion in their sport. Or if they feel threatened by it, if they feel undermined, if it bothers them that their like holy man place to presumably fuck in the woods has been ruined.

• 31:39Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. Oh, right. Cause now they, well, they could probably, no, they're gonna get caught now.

• 31:44Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 31:45Laci Mosley?

  They gotta go to the showers, like the real gays.

• 31:47Speaker 06

  That's right.

• 31:48Laci Mosley?

  So, but it's interesting to me because I feel like it's twofold. Obviously, you're gonna have like your weird misogynists who are like, ooh, there's hot tail on the green now. And, you know, and they're gonna be like, oh, I hope you can golf as good as you look, cause oh my God, I used to get that from comedians. Comedians now that me and my DMs congratulating me on shit, like, I'm hope you're as funny as you are cute. Like, sorry, what? Get out of my face. I'm funnier than you. But I feel like there's gonna be those types of people who are gonna be like the misogynist kind of chasing them. And there's the other side of misogynist is gonna be like, this was for our men. Like you were saying, like, this is where we go do our woods activities. Like, get out of here, women. Um, either way, obviously, those aren't both, neither of those are positive responses for the women.

• 32:28Laci Mosley?

  But at the same time, I always kind of wonder how many golfers are actually good at golf? Or how many of them just like to go out and have a drink with the boys and just hit balls and shirk them and

• 32:41Speaker 06

  I know.

• 32:42Laci Mosley?

  Cause they can't all be good. As many guys that I know who golf.

• 32:45Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 32:46Laci Mosley?

  Like I've golfed with my dad. I know he's handicapped. I know he's actually a pretty decent golfer. Oh, God. I wanna say.

• 32:52Speaker 06

  Just something low.

• 32:53Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 32:54Speaker 06

  He's good.

• 32:54Laci Mosley?

  It's, I mean, I wanna say nine.

• 32:56Speaker 06

  Yeah, that is very good.

• 32:58Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, it's decent. I mean, he's in his sixties, but.

• 33:01Speaker 06

  I think if you work all week and then you have the weekend to spend with your wife and your family, presuming you have that, and instead you choose to walk around in the sun for five hours, then you're just killing time. You just wanna get away from people.

• 33:14Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 33:15Speaker 06

  But I don't know, like, my husband, I think his mental health depends on being able to golf, like being able to do a sport. I think also men don't really talk to each other.

• 33:26Laci Mosley?

  Right.

• 33:26Speaker 06

  And so they need to be doing, um.

• 33:28Laci Mosley?

  An activity that gives them an excuse.

• 33:30Speaker 06

  Right, and they're not making eye contact.

• 33:32Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 33:32Speaker 06

  They're just kind of walking and at some point in the five hours, someone will be like, by the way, I'm getting divorced. And that's the only way you get it out of them.

• 33:40Laci Mosley?

  Mm-hmm.

• 33:41Speaker 06

  Cause they're, they're not ready for like face-to-face discussion. Like a woman, you'll come over, you'll have like girls around, you'll tell them everything easily, just like over coffee or whatever.

• 33:50Laci Mosley?

  A walk, a jog, like anything. Guys are like, yeah, my dad's terminal four. Like.

• 33:58Speaker 06

  You gotta distract them with athletics.

• 33:59Laci Mosley?

  Yes.

• 34:00Speaker 06

  It's difficult to have those chats on a basketball court.

• 34:03Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, that's true. I mean, although they will talk shit and they'll have their little break or, or when they're wiping their little sweat, they'd be like, so how's the kid? How's the family? You know, and that's when they do their my wife's divorced me thing. Oh shit, man. Yeah, you're absolutely right. We can just sit down and talk. We can literally go somewhere with the intention of catching up.

• 34:19Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 34:19Laci Mosley?

  They have to be like, no, that's for women.

• 34:22Speaker 06

  We will just hit balls.

• 34:23Laci Mosley?

  We got a sword fight for a little bit before we start catching up.

• 34:27Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 34:27Laci Mosley?

  Oh, yeah. Racquetball. They love racquetball, too. That's a big one for them to catch up. So, classic social media bait and switch is gonna happen here. So, we got the hot girls on the course. They're revolutionizing the sport. We love this for them. So, where there are hotties, there are catfish pretending to be them. And women's pro golf is ground zero for imposter counts online.

• 34:52Speaker 06

  Whoa.

• 34:53Laci Mosley?

  Now, the women just got into pro golf. You already trying to scam them? That's not right.

• 34:58Speaker 06

  So, what are they doing? People are posing as pro golfers?

• 35:01Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, so let's say an older man enjoys the sport of golf and is looking for an attractive woman. See, I told you there was gonna be creeps. So, he's a fan of a good-looking player like Nelly Korda. And he comments, "Looking good." Smiley face on her verified Instagram account, right? And so, the smiley face, I have to know, is a colon and then a parentheses.

• 35:27Speaker 06

  Yes.

• 35:28Laci Mosley?

  So, not an emoji.

• 35:29Speaker 06

  No, elderly smiley face.

• 35:30Laci Mosley?

  Elderly smiley face.

• 35:31Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 35:32Laci Mosley?

  Like, you know that smiley face, the balls are hanging low on that smiley face. So, wow, that was like unnecessarily graphic. So, I think I thought of Sex in the City, where Samantha was dating that old guy, and then he like gets up from the bed and his butt is just like all saggy.

• 35:47Speaker 06

  Oh.

• 35:48Laci Mosley?

  Like, she was like, "No, I can do this." And then he gets up naked and she was like, "Uh, I'm out." Have to go.

• 35:54Speaker 06

  Yeah, that's a golf butt.

• 35:55Laci Mosley?

  Golf butt. Definitely a golf butt. So, once the guy, you know, hits on Nelly's real page and is like, "Hey, baddie, you looking good," he's gonna get flooded with replies from NellyKordaOfficial63 and NellyKordaFanPage2 and LoveNelly69.

• 36:16Speaker 06

  Whoa.

• 36:16Laci Mosley?

  Telling him that they are the real Nelly and that they want to talk to him on Telegram or WhatsApp, where there are no social media moderation tools.

• 36:25Speaker 06

  I love this.

• 36:27Laci Mosley?

  So they were like, babe, you hitting on her on real page. Imagine someone monitoring your comments and hitting on the people who hit on you.

• 36:35Speaker 06

  And you know what I love about this is I think that leaving a comment like that is cheating. I think any interaction, and there are so many married men, so many, who think that having some type of flirtatious or sexual interaction with a celebrity doesn't count as cheating.

• 36:51Laci Mosley?

  Right.

• 36:52Speaker 06

  But it is. And so I think that those men deserve to have their bank accounts drained by like, some AI bot or sex worker who's gotten onto this scam.

• 37:01Laci Mosley?

  Right, who's got the skill set. I agree with you. I think that there's a way to appreciate. I know it's like, oh, this is a celebrity. They're so far away from me. I can never get with them. So I'm allowed to just like be putting thirsty ass emojis under their account. No, no, no, no, no.

• 37:13Speaker 06

  No.

• 37:13Laci Mosley?

  I will give you liking the picture.

• 37:15Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 37:15Laci Mosley?

  You can like it. You can be like, great outfit.

• 37:22Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 37:23Laci Mosley?

  Oh, I saw a TikTok. I went down on TikTok rabbit hole the other day. And there was a guy and the woman was like, why do you have a picture of this girl? Like, why is this girl sending a picture of her thong in your phone? And he was like, oh, I was gonna buy that thong for you.

• 37:36Speaker 06

  Oh, gosh.

• 37:37Laci Mosley?

  She was like, well, why is there a picture of her without it? And he was like, she must have sold it.

• 37:44Laci Mosley?

  This is genius.

• 37:45Speaker 06

  Don't stop at nothing.

• 37:46Laci Mosley?

  If you give me an excuse like that for liking a celebrity or thirsting on a celebrity pic, I'd be like, you know what? Fine. So our golf fan doesn't know any better, right? So he contacts this fake Nelly on her WhatsApp, where the scammer often offers something attractive like a private dinner, VIP access to a tournament, or an investment opportunity for a fee.

• 38:08Speaker 06

  Not an investment opportunity.

• 38:11Laci Mosley?

  Listen, not FTX. So he makes an untraceable payment via cryptocurrency or gift cards.

• 38:18Speaker 06

  Whoa.

• 38:19Laci Mosley?

  So that's how they get them. And mind you, these are like kind of older guys. So they don't know how the internet hustle really works. And I believe that the great setup for the scam is that the old creepy dude has already left a comment showing interest on the real person's page. So they're not thinking that anybody else is reading their comment and then finding them. They're thinking like, this must be.

• 38:41Speaker 06

  The real deal.

• 38:42Laci Mosley?

  My lucky day.

• 38:43Speaker 06

  Oh, my gosh. I love this scam. I feel like it's a victimless crime.

• 38:47Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, I mean, because like, what are you trying to hit on this lady for? So. Golf fans, like kids or grandkids, are eventually able to convince him that he's being scammed. So payments stop and the scammer disappears, never to be caught. Eventually, Pop Pop is bragging too much while they're watching the Women's Open. He's like, "Yeah, I'm going on a date with her next weekend."

• 39:09Speaker 06

  We're making investments together already. It's great.

• 39:12Laci Mosley?

  They're like, "Pop Pop, what? I don't think y'all are making any investments." So it's a classic social media bait and switch. And especially, it's effective in the golf community, where the average age of the PGA tournament TV viewer is 64 years young.

• 39:27Speaker 06

  Genius.

• 39:28Laci Mosley?

  Ooh, that's perfect. I also am on your side of this is the perfect scam too, because at your big age, why are you trying to hit on any of these people who could be your children or your grandchildren? Like, you're already being a predator, so they just like, Uno reversed you.

• 39:45Speaker 06

  I love that. I'm gonna start doing it myself, actually.

• 39:47Laci Mosley?

  Right. I'm gonna get on, I'm gonna start following these girls. I'm gonna get a list of everybody, so I can get on there and be like, "Hey, it's me, Nelly. I am so horny for you too."

• 39:59Laci Mosley?

  "Send me a citizen, citizen home." I can't even say senior citizen home. "Send me the address to Shady Pines." And I'm like, I'm in, I'm in.

• 40:10Speaker 06

  I love that you consider 64-year-old men predators when they're going after... How old is this young woman? Like 20?

• 40:18Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 40:19Speaker 06

  It is predatory. Just because they're of age doesn't make you not...

• 40:22Laci Mosley?

  Because you're 40 years older, my guy. What do you have in common with somebody that you're 40 years older than?

• 40:29Speaker 06

  A love of golf, a love of the game.

• 40:32Laci Mosley?

  I guess golf. At least they could say they got golf in common, because the rest of these creepo-ass men can't say anything.

• 40:38Speaker 06

  We could take this scam outside of golf. You know, if I had the kind of time that I wish I had, I could just go through, like, any kind of old man, commenting anything on a celebrity's page, try to scam them. But I'd really need, like, a lesson on cryptocurrency and all the, all the other admin that goes into this scam.

• 40:55Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, like the untraceability of Bitcoin and things like that. I'm not great at Signal.

• 41:00Speaker 06

  No.

• 41:01Laci Mosley?

  WhatsApp, I only use when I'm out of the country. And then like my friends who live in other countries, they'd be like, Lacey, I hit you up like months ago. And I'm like, girl, you said that when I get back to the States? That's for crime.

• 41:12Laci Mosley?

  We all know it. Like, why do I need to go over there with you? Give me your number. So I, I agree with you. The only reason that I would say like this is easier and I think this is perfect is because the demographic is so easily narrowed. Like it's right there for you because that's the average viewer of golf. Whereas like if I'm going on Megan Thee Stallion's page, like the, the age range is gonna vary so much. Before I get to somebody who's like thirsting after the booty and then I'm like, I got you. Like I have to put in more legwork, I think.

• 41:38Speaker 06

  You do, but there will be some sixty-four-year-old white men on there, for sure.

• 41:42Laci Mosley?

  That's true. What's another like thing that they like that young people do?

• 41:46Speaker 06

  Hmm, maybe tennis? Well, golf is the sweet spot for old men, especially old men with money.

• 41:52Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 41:53Speaker 06

  It really is the best one. Because I suppose they play darts. They like cricket.

• 41:58Laci Mosley?

  That's true. They like cricket.

• 42:00Speaker 06

  Like cricket? But this, this new wave of young sexy women in golf, as you described. It's just the perfect time for the skip.

• 42:08Laci Mosley?

  And nobody's talking about new sexy cricket ladies. No one's like, oh.

• 42:13Laci Mosley?

  We could change that.

• 42:14Speaker 06

  We could.

• 42:14Laci Mosley?

  You and I, we could change that. I could get into cricket. I don't know if the cricket guys are like throwing that money up though, like that, you know? I've never heard of like, oh yeah. He loves cricket. We're on his super yacht. Like, I don't know if those go together. So, um, obviously these older men are also more liable to fall for obviously fake AI-altered videos of players using their names. So now we have an AI-altered video right here. Where basically we gotta look cameo. Let's play this.

• 42:45Speaker 06

  Hey Rodney, how are you doing today? This is the real Nelly Korda and your only privilege to get a video from me gets your fan's card and let's start a conversation. Wow.

• 42:55Laci Mosley?

  Okay. So AI is getting a lot better with these videos.

• 42:59Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 43:00Laci Mosley?

  But this one is like, hello, it is me, the only Nelly Korda.

• 43:04Speaker 06

  Let's have conversation. Start.

• 43:07Laci Mosley?

  And talk so much good. You sexy hot.

• 43:10Speaker 06

  So this, this money is going out of the country.

• 43:13Laci Mosley?

  Out of the country, for sure.

• 43:14Speaker 06

  Is what we're learning.

• 43:14Laci Mosley?

  Someone used Google Translate.

• 43:16Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 43:16Laci Mosley?

  Cause no one was like, hi, it is I, real Nelly Korda. Like, they would be like, hey, I told you it was really me. Like, it's nice to talk to you, Rodney. No, they're like, Rodney.

• 43:29Speaker 06

  Hello.

• 43:29Laci Mosley?

  Too many syllables were pronounced in this video. Um.

• 43:32Speaker 06

  I'm not good at deciphering between AI and not AI. I will say, the over 40s, we struggle with it. And it's always like a night vision video of a lion, like rescuing some other animal. And I believe it every single time.

• 43:46Laci Mosley?

  It's getting so much harder. Like even, even now, I be getting got with AI on TikTok. Like I'll look at something on TikTok and be like, oh, this is cute. But before, because sometimes it like just looks too crazy.

• 43:57Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 43:58Laci Mosley?

  And so I'll go into the comments and people will be like, this is AI. Or I'll look around the video for anything that's blurry. Cause like AI used to be required to put like the Soros label on it or something like that. And now people are posting it and they're just like blurring that out. Or they're cropping it so much that it crops out the logo that says it's AI. So they're getting more creative. I saw one last night of this late, it was like a lady on a slide. But it was like in the mountains, like really high up in the mountains. And this guy is behind her and you can tell he's like the guide for this. So he like pushes her down this huge slide. I'm talking like a hundred feet. Onto this huge, um, trampoline almost kind of pillow thing. And then she shoots into the air. And mind you, this, this is a cliff right next door.

• 44:41Laci Mosley?

  And then she comes back down and kind of bounces a little bit. And it looks so realistic. I was like, there's no way in hell this is a thing.

• 44:47Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 44:48Laci Mosley?

  And then started looking into it. I was like, yeah, it's AI. But it looks so realistic. It made my stomach flip because I was like, this is terrifying looking. But again, these are white thrill seekers. So for a second I was like, this could be a thing. Maybe they're catapulting themselves into the stratosphere.

• 45:02Speaker 06

  How in red are these posh people? But that was crazy like that. You would have to be definitely like elderly.

• 45:09Laci Mosley?

  Elderly because you're looking at a mouth and a face saying your name.

• 45:13Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 45:14Laci Mosley?

  And if you're not adept with like, like, let me just hear the Rodney again.

• 45:18Speaker 06

  Hey Rodney, how are you doing today?

• 45:20Laci Mosley?

  That today really gets me.

• 45:22Speaker 06

  Today.

• 45:23Laci Mosley?

  How are you doing today?

• 45:24Speaker 06

  Today.

• 45:25Laci Mosley?

  And then it's like, this is your only opportunity. Like, who says that to somebody that they're talking to?

• 45:30Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 45:30Laci Mosley?

  Like, this is your only opportunity to talk to me for real?

• 45:33Speaker 06

  Someone with an investment proposal.

• 45:35Laci Mosley?

  Right.

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• 48:24Laci Mosley?

  So, par for the course. Love that pun. Online impersonators have taken off within the Ladies Professional Golf Association, the LPGA, in the last five years. Pros like Charlie Hull, Lexie Thompson, Michelle Lee, Wes, Morgan Pressle, Jennifer Capuccio, Hannah Gregg.

• 48:44Speaker 06

  Wow.

• 48:45Laci Mosley?

  Wow, is this a runway show? And Nelly Korda all have publicly posted warnings about the scams to their followers. I mean, they're some baddies. They look good.

• 48:58Speaker 06

  They are. Let your fanbase be scammed. If your 64-year-old fanbase wants to put some, like, lecherous comments, then let them be scammed.

• 49:07Laci Mosley?

  At the same time, I'm like, maybe they were like, but maybe I want to get really involved with the old man.

• 49:12Speaker 06

  The bummer's always out. The bummer's out on her, too.

• 49:15Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, this one is more egregious. Like, the other one I kind of saw, like, it could have been an accident because she was, like, looking for the putt. But, like, she was tooting that thing.

• 49:23Speaker 06

  She is.

• 49:24Laci Mosley?

  She wanted to toot it. They know what they doing and I'm not mad at it.

• 49:27Speaker 06

  What a scam. I'm on board. I love it.

• 49:29Laci Mosley?

  I'm on board with this. Golf, but you know what would make me feel bad? It's if I was in the LPGA and nobody was scamming my fans. Cause I'm like, I'm not sassy enough. Next, next, next, um, next open, I'm coming out in a thong. Cause y'all not gonna out, just do me.

• 49:46Speaker 06

  This is it. This is why they've got all their little bumps out trying to get.

• 49:50Laci Mosley?

  So golf influencers Paige Spreyonic and Haley Ostrom also have spoken out about the dangers of scammers. So these are also just some real cuties who are like scamming is bad.

• 50:01Speaker 06

  She is a golfer?

• 50:02Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, I guess. Part-time model, full-time golfer.

• 50:08Speaker 06

  I wonder if it's too late for us to learn golf.

• 50:10Laci Mosley?

  No, never too late. These guys are so fucking old. This has gotta be a low-impact sport.

• 50:14Speaker 06

  Yeah, they don't start until they're older sometimes. Some of them have to like get a business before they start golfing. I don't see a lot of like 19-year-old boys golfing. They start in their 30s.

• 50:23Laci Mosley?

  I mean, I do in college. I do, there was like a golf team. I knew some guys who like loved to go golfing and stuff. But I guess it just depends on where you are. But I definitely would be down to get on the golf course. I don't even care if I'm not good at it. If there's some great business opportunities to be made, I'll get out there and cheat. I don't give a fuck. I'll shirk the ball right into the sand and then I'll be like, oh, oh, I'm on the green, y'all.

• 50:47Speaker 06

  They'll be blowing each other in the woods anyway. They won't see you.

• 50:50Laci Mosley?

  And then when they go to blow each other in the woods, I'll get my ball.

• 50:55Speaker 06

  That's our cheating window.

• 50:57Laci Mosley?

  That's our cheating window. And then I'll place it right on the green and they're like, yeah, that's crazy.

• 51:02Speaker 06

  I feel like I'm gonna lose my husband to one of these women if I don't learn golf. Cause my dad remarried a woman who loves to golf and they golf together all the time and it's actually so cute. And what, what is your husband doing? He's sucking off his golf mate in the woods if you are not part of that foursome.

• 51:19Laci Mosley?

  You heard it here, guys. Ladies, gentlemen, they's thems. If you got a partner who likes to golf, you better start golfing too. Otherwise they're gonna be in the woods.

• 51:29Speaker 06

  For the shaft. Do you know how many straight, quote unquote, married men turn out to be gay? Or will just indulge in a little bit of gayness on the side and they don't think that makes them gay?

• 51:41Laci Mosley?

  I mean, bisexuals exist.

• 51:43Speaker 06

  But these men don't identify that way. They think that they're straight. They think it doesn't count. Because I hear this relentlessly on tour. I've done a show recently where I ask the audience questions or for dilemmas. And time and time again, like so much more often than you would think, gay men are either reporting that married men have sex with them.

• 52:01Laci Mosley?

  Oh, yeah, of course.

• 52:02Speaker 06

  Or people will be like, oh, I found these texts on my husband's phone, but with his mate, but like he think, or his friend. And he thinks it doesn't count. Oh, yeah, you've lived in, your American listeners might not know. Yeah, there's a lot of that going on.

• 52:16Laci Mosley?

  What's sad to me about that is like, just live your truth. Like, I would hate for a woman to now have her life stolen by you because she's your baby-making accessory machine.

• 52:27Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 52:28Laci Mosley?

  Whereas like you could have been out here living, yo, you know, woodland fantasies and left that lady alone.

• 52:33Speaker 06

  Right.

• 52:34Laci Mosley?

  And she could have been with somebody who actually wanted to be with her and not have free labor, occasional sex and, and, and baby rearing.

• 52:40Speaker 06

  That's it.

• 52:41Laci Mosley?

  I'm like, that's not fair to that lady. That's why I get, I understand when people are upset. Like, I think everyone should live their truth, but I really understand when women are upset that they've married someone who, who eventually out themselves or turns out to be gay. Because I'm like, you stole that lady life. You ain't ever really want her. And like, that's not fair.

• 52:58Speaker 06

  No.

• 52:59Laci Mosley?

  And I mean, I know everybody has to live their truth and come out their own time, but I just feel like that's such a patriarchal thing to waste a woman's life because you are afraid to live yours.

• 53:08Speaker 06

  And maybe you had reasons for not living your truth, fine, like you said, but that doesn't negate that woman's experience.

• 53:13Laci Mosley?

  You could have left everybody out of it.

• 53:15Speaker 06

  Right.

• 53:16Laci Mosley?

  Lesbians do it all the time. You know how many aunties I had coming up who didn't want to come out the closet, but they had a roommate who was always in linen at the family reunion? We know what was up.

• 53:25Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 53:25Laci Mosley?

  But it's like they weren't bothering no man, being like, be with me, like, you know?

• 53:30Speaker 06

  Can you imagine? Oh, that poor lesbian would just be tortured by her fake husband.

• 53:35Laci Mosley?

  Although I do love a lavender marriage and I feel like I'm gonna end up in one and that's fine for me as long as we agree. We're like, we like to travel. We like to split bills.

• 53:44Speaker 06

  Yeah. Did you see Vivian Westwood? Vivian Westwood is in one.

• 53:48Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 53:49Speaker 06

  She just recently came out. I think her husband was like, oh yeah, I'm gay and they're happy.

• 53:52Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. We both want tax breaks and

• 53:55Speaker 06

  We do.

• 53:55Laci Mosley?

  Yes. I mean, to each his own. But yeah, I just don't like the scamming of the lying of it all.

• 54:01Speaker 06

  No.

• 54:01Laci Mosley?

  So, but more than once, the victims of the scams have continued to blame the golfer for their financial losses even after being confronted with the truth and some simply refuse to believe that they have not been interacting with the real athlete. So there we go. Now, this is pissing me off a little bit because here y'all go misogynist. How are you gonna blame the golfer for you being stupid?

• 54:20Speaker 06

  Uh huh.

• 54:20Laci Mosley?

  What that gotta do with her?

• 54:21Speaker 06

  Do you think she needs your money? Do you think it was really her?

• 54:24Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. And like, how could she have stopped that from happening? You put your thirst online and made yourself the target.

• 54:31Speaker 06

  I think it's maybe very difficult for these men to confront that they've been tricked and scammed.

• 54:36Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 54:37Speaker 06

  And also, I don't think they want to let go of the fact that maybe it was the real her.

• 54:41Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 54:41Speaker 06

  So they're like, no, I was not scammed. Like denial is so powerful.

• 54:45Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. And shame is what's behind it.

• 54:47Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 54:47Laci Mosley?

  And then also, I think about, what if these older men were like on the golf course? And they're showing these messages and these videos to their other buddies?

• 54:57Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 54:58Laci Mosley?

  And then, and they're thinking like, their, their delulu is so out of control that they think this young, hot, sports illustrated lady golfer wants their

• 55:08Speaker 06

  Investment.

• 55:09Laci Mosley?

  knapsack ass. And then when it gets out that obviously this is fake, I'm sure they're so embarrassed too.

• 55:16Speaker 06

  Yeah. They're like, how dare you?

• 55:19Laci Mosley?

  But if I'm gonna be embarrassed, I'm not gonna be mad. If I was like these old dusty men, I would not be mad at the golfer. I would pretend that it was the right, the real person for the rest of my life. I'm like, no, it was her. Everybody else got scared, but me and Nelly had something real. We did. I had to break it off with her though, because you know, her schedule was just too crazy.

• 55:39Speaker 06

  She had a really weird voice and her English wasn't great.

• 55:42Laci Mosley?

  English, not great. And also just body too hot, you know, it was just, it was a lot. And you know, between her tours and stuff, I was just like, you don't have enough time for me and the family. So, yeah, I would fabricate a whole life that we had together.

• 55:56Speaker 06

  Double down on the scam.

• 55:57Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, double down. That's the, that's the nice way of having delusion. I feel like the other way of getting mad at the golfer who did nothing to you is just fucked up. But if you want to double down on delusion, I mean, we all know you lying, but whatever makes you feel good. So, romance scammed. After joining a Nelly Corda fan page, Nelly, you out here, you got them down bad.

• 56:17Speaker 06

  Yeah, they like her.

• 56:18Laci Mosley?

  That Sports Illustrated page, you got tore everybody up.

• 56:21Speaker 06

  I need to see her Instagram.

• 56:23Laci Mosley?

  She got the golf world in shambles, single-handedly.

• 56:27Speaker 06

  Wow.

• 56:28Laci Mosley?

  So, after joining a Nelly Corda fan page on Facebook in June 2024, an unnamed 72-year-old man from South Carolina received an email from someone claiming to be the real Nelly Corda. Email was quickly turned into texting. Texting morphed into phone calls. And within days, he told his daughter that they were in love. Did you know they can clone your voice with AI?

• 56:51Speaker 06

  Yes.

• 56:52Laci Mosley?

  For a phone call now, too. He sent her $15,000. Each time he confronted Nelly about the inconsistencies in her story, she had an excuse for everything. So, she, so, Nelly, baby, why you need my money? Because I see you on Sports Illustrated with that thang thangin'. And Nelly said, I have no access to my money due to a controlling manager and family. Oh, I was gonna come see you, Boogie, but my flight got canceled. The last one, the scam warning on Corda's verified Instagram, oh, baby, that's for everybody else. Nacho, boo.

• 57:27Speaker 06

  No, no, no.

• 57:29Laci Mosley?

  What we doing is real, but I'm protecting everybody else that's fake.

• 57:33Speaker 06

  Yes.

• 57:34Laci Mosley?

  So, she had excuses for everything. He was preparing to sell his house. At her request, when she said she had broken a bone in a car accident. But the real Nelly was still out and about golfing with all her bones.

• 57:50Speaker 06

  Uh, all of her.

• 57:51Laci Mosley?

  Mm-hmm. And that's when he decided it was a scam.

• 57:55Speaker 06

  Oh, so he did figure it out on his own.

• 57:58Laci Mosley?

  It got to real estate agent before he figured it out, though. That's way too far. You about to sell your home.

• 58:04Speaker 06

  See, this makes me sad now, because he seems like a nice man in love.

• 58:09Laci Mosley?

  I mean, I don't know about that. He's 72. I'll give him this, if he had a, maybe he got a little dementia.

• 58:17Speaker 06

  Sure.

• 58:17Laci Mosley?

  And like, that can lead to a lot of gullibility and there's different like, levels on the spectrum of, you know, like more high functioning dementia. And then when it gets to the late stages. So I'mma give him that because maybe, because he is 72.

• 58:31Speaker 06

  He's living in the notebook. He thinks he's young.

• 58:34Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, right. He might be living in the notebook.

• 58:36Speaker 06

  But it is far more likely that.

• 58:40Laci Mosley?

  No, he's living in the notebook. I mean, I don't know, because also, I want to say he living in a notebook, but he was smart enough to read her, the real Nellie's warnings about scammers in the Instagram bio. So it's like he did try to do his due diligence. When she didn't come, he said the flight was canceled. When he asked why she needed money, so he was asking questions. He was confronting fake Nellie.

• 59:05Laci Mosley?

  I don't know, man. I might not be able to feel far, sorry for you, my guy, because it seems just like.

• 59:10Speaker 06

  I love that these bot accounts, or these, whatever they are, fake scam accounts, they're like the new Chris Hansen. Do you remember, uh, what was it called?

• 59:18Laci Mosley?

  Catch the Predator.

• 59:19Speaker 06

  Catch the Predator, yeah. Has that gone off air or do you still have it?

• 59:22Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, it got lots of lawsuits after a while for entrapment.

• 59:25Speaker 06

  Entrapment?

• 59:26Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, because technically the, it was fucked up. It's like, they weren't kids. So there's some like, gray area there legally.

• 59:35Speaker 06

  That's a shame. You should be able to entrap pedos, is my opinion. Any way you can. Poor Chris Hansen. What's he doing now?

• 59:42Laci Mosley?

  Oh, he's doing great. I think he's still out there catching them pedos. He got all types of ways to do so.

• 59:46Speaker 06

  Good, good, good to know.

• 59:48Laci Mosley?

  He's dedicated, and I love that for him. I mean, I hate romance scams though, so it's hard for, like, I'm looking at this from multiple angles. Because I'm also, I'm looking at a 72-year-old man who was sitting on a woman who was way too young for him, but then also looking at someone who's clearly lonely.

• 1:00:02Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:00:03Laci Mosley?

  Like, you were willing to sell your home, so he's probably thinking, I don't have that many years left, and I can sell my home and I'll just go on tour with my favorite golfer and live a thrilling, exciting life.

• 1:00:13Speaker 06

  But the audacity of it.

• 1:00:14Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 1:00:15Speaker 06

  The audacity to think.

• 1:00:16Laci Mosley?

  Take your ass down to the shady pines and find you a woman your own goddamn age.

• 1:00:21Speaker 06

  Yes.

• 1:00:21Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, no, I don't feel bad again. I'm oscillating.

• 1:00:25Speaker 06

  I think if a romance scam involves a 50-year age gap.

• 1:00:29Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, then I can't feel.

• 1:00:30Speaker 06

  Then you can get on board.

• 1:00:31Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, it's a no for me, dog. So victims become threats. People have shown up at tournaments who thought they had sent money to have a private dinner with a player and had to be removed by Torchstone Global, a security firm used by the LPGA. So now, these weirdos. They done sent $300 to Romanian Nelly. And now they showing up demanding their dinner at, at the frickin', like, at this lady's place of work.

• 1:01:02Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:01:03Laci Mosley?

  At the LPGA. That's where she works, bro. That's her job. How you gonna show up at any lady's job and be like, "You saw me, we were going on a date." Like, if we were going on a date, wouldn't we coordinate that? That's terrifying.

• 1:01:14Speaker 06

  It is terrifying. And the fact that this has happened multiple times, like enough for it to be reported, enough that the security's like, "Another one." I was scammed once, I'll tell you. It was a bad scam. Are you familiar with inflatophilia?

• 1:01:27Laci Mosley?

  No, but I'm interested.

• 1:01:28Speaker 06

  So it's like a sexual kink. Not to kink shame anyone, but you do have to have consent to do your kink on someone. They like balloons being inflated. So when I was working at Hooters, this guy called with a radio voice. We all know what a radio voice sounds like. He's like, "This is Kevin Ross from CBW whatever." And he goes, "If you can inflate your pantyhose," because we wore pantyhose.

• 1:01:53Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 1:01:53Speaker 06

  "I'll give you $300." And I was like, "Great." So I ran to my manager. I said, "Can I inflate my pantyhose for $300? I think I can figure it out." He played on my, like, desire to be smart and figure out puzzles. I was like, "I can do this." My manager said, "No, no, it sounds like a scam." And I was like, "Oh." So I got back on the phone. I said, "I'm not allowed." He said, "Well, you don't have to do it as a Hooters waitress. You can just do it, like, as a college student, like, as a private citizen with your roommates, whatever you want to do."

• 1:02:18Laci Mosley?

  Private citizen.

• 1:02:19Speaker 06

  Yeah, and I was like, "Okay." So I gave him my phone number. And then he started calling our flat, like, again and again and again. And I would, I put plastic bags down my nylons. I did not think this was sexy, so I didn't realize. It was like a fetish.

• 1:02:32Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 1:02:33Speaker 06

  And I would inflate them with a bicycle pump. He had us running down to like the gas station using that tire pump, doing all these different photo shoots for him. Sometimes he would have us on the phone. No, I would just email him the photos.

• 1:02:46Laci Mosley?

  Oh, okay.

• 1:02:46Speaker 06

  And the money never came. And but he would say, go to the gas station and inflate your pantyhose there. Like, he had us like out and about.

• 1:02:53Laci Mosley?

  Wow.

• 1:02:53Speaker 06

  And I still didn't know scam. Then he'd have us.

• 1:02:55Laci Mosley?

  And you're so young.

• 1:02:57Speaker 06

  Yeah, I had, I was speaking to him on the phone. Uh, he'd be like, for the radio, you have to say you're floating up to the ceiling and you're worried you're gonna pop. And we would do all this like role play of balloon stuff that I did not know was sex. Then sometimes he'd be breathing weird. He would always call us in the middle of the night. Anyway.

• 1:03:14Laci Mosley?

  See, that pisses me off too, because there's so many people in the kink community who are willing to have a fair exchange to do that kind of stuff. And instead, you decided to steal from young girls.

• 1:03:24Speaker 06

  Exactly.

• 1:03:25Laci Mosley?

  And trick them.

• 1:03:26Speaker 06

  And put us on kink fetish websites.

• 1:03:28Laci Mosley?

  Oh, my god.

• 1:03:29Speaker 06

  Those photos, yeah. And he knew my address, because I gave him my address to send the money, and the money never came. But, uh.

• 1:03:37Laci Mosley?

  Damn.

• 1:03:38Speaker 06

  It was bad. So I went to the radio station to look

• 1:03:42Laci Mosley?

  Okay.

• 1:03:42Speaker 06

  for my money, to be like, I've been inflating my pantyhose time and time again. Like, where is all this cash? And the woman pressed a button, she goes, Steve, we got another one.

• 1:03:52Laci Mosley?

  No.

• 1:03:53Speaker 06

  Yeah, so he'd been doing it to loads of women. So then Producer Steve came downstairs, he was like, nobody works at the radio station who's like doing this entertainment segment. You've been scammed by an inflatableiac. And there were loads more girls, and that's how we knew.

• 1:04:07Laci Mosley?

  Wow. And I see, I would say the difference here is, is that you were promised money in exchange for like, you know, a wacky competition or whatever. That's what you thought was happening. You weren't showing up trying to be like, where's that man that I wanna be with him?

• 1:04:23Speaker 06

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:04:23Laci Mosley?

  Like, you're like, can somebody just give me my money that I was told I was gonna get? But I understand the parallel here of like, what you're doing is like, you were taken advantage of, and you were trying to get compensated.

• 1:04:33Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:04:33Laci Mosley?

  Whereas in this situation, yes, these, these men were taken advantage of by a scammer.

• 1:04:37Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:04:37Laci Mosley?

  However, if you have not been contacted by this person, but maybe the scammers were. Being like, come to the tournament.

• 1:04:42Speaker 06

  That's it. They were looking to be compensated, but with dinner, right?

• 1:04:46Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 1:04:46Speaker 06

  But I just love that in both cases, the staff are aware. The staff are like, ugh.

• 1:04:50Laci Mosley?

  Cause it's happening so many times. They're like, oh my God, Jean, can you go down there? We got more of them inflatable girls. Like, at this point, I'm like, the radio stations are responsible, because why aren't they just saying like, hey, we don't have a guy who works here and does this? Like, if you hear this, like, just like, these women were trying to be like, hey, we're not, we're not trying to hit on you. I've never wanted to be with a 72-year-old man in my life, so.

• 1:05:12Speaker 06

  It would be a weird segment on the radio, though, just to be like, uh, just so you know, none of our presenters will be calling you and asking you to inflate your pantyhose for sexual gratification. Next, the traffic. Like, what?

• 1:05:23Laci Mosley?

  I mean, it would be entertaining, though. That would get some Nielsen radios going. I'd be like, I'm listening to this station every day, because what y'all got going on? So, a Pennsylvania man in his 60s drove four hours to Liberty National Golf Club in Jersey City, New Jersey, for the Mizuho Americas Open. So, he was there to meet a 22-year-old American golfer, Rose Zhang. He told tournament staff that she had left a VIP package for him and booked him a hotel room. He said he had been talking to her on social media for over a year, and he had sent her around $70,000. Rose's agent confronted the man, breaking the news that he was not communicating with her. Now, again, Rose is 22. You are in your 60s.

• 1:06:08Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:06:09Laci Mosley?

  But I think because, the delulu probably comes here because $70,000 to a 22-year-old is a lot of money. I mean, mind you, she is playing golf, and she's getting endorsements, so she's making way more money than the average 22-year-old. But I'm sure somebody in their 60s would think that a 22-year-old might be swayed by 70 grand.

• 1:06:29Speaker 06

  Right. But, I mean, these women are breaking their bones, they're like, having family troubles. They're finding reasons that they need money from these old pedos.

• 1:06:39Laci Mosley?

  Another 68-year-old man from California went to several tournaments to see South Korean golfer uh, Inji Chun after losing $50,000. So he went to several tournaments at this point in stalking and because he's saying he lost $50,000. Maybe you didn't lose $50,000, you gave $50,000 away and there is a difference. Because at no point does somebody hold you up at gunpoint and tell you to give an internet lady 50K. Like, that's on you, buddy. And in January of 2025, a man showed up at Haley Ostrom's home after losing $50,000 to an account impersonating her. Here's a video of her telling the story. Her stalker left his own accord without making any threats, but the

• 1:07:20Laci Mosley?

  online scammer got away like they usually do and is probably still doing the same thing from different accounts. So we have a little video of her telling this story right here.

• 1:07:29Speaker 06

  Imagine it's the same scammer, the one who's really good at getting like hundreds of thousands.

• 1:07:34Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, what if this was like one small organized crime?

• 1:07:37Speaker 06

  One woman with a bunch of accounts. I mean, whoever they are, they're genius because this is a niche.

• 1:07:42Speaker 10

  On Monday, I got a message from one of the courses that I frequent saying that a man came in and was looking for me and asking about me and asked them to contact me. He left his name. I did not recognize his name and I basically chalked it up to, this is probably a follower, just let it go. I dropped it and forgot about it until last night when that man showed up at my house. It was a very scary situation for me and I have never had anything like that happen before. He was able to get my address by abusing his job at his work and finding all of my information. It turns out, he had been messaging a fake Haley Ostrom page, thinking that it was me and sending them $50,000.

• 1:08:25Speaker 10

  He was obviously mad when that person stopped messaging him, so he figured out a way to get to me and came to my home. I was very scared and had even texted my parents during this interaction, telling them to send cops to my house right away. He did not make any threats and he did eventually leave on his own free will, but as you can imagine, I don't know his intentions and because some of the situations that have happened in my past with some followers, I was very skeptical and scared and not going to take any risk. So I felt the need to put this video out there so that it is in my feed that I do not message you on any other accounts. I will never directly message you and ask you to telegram me.

• 1:09:09Speaker 10

  I don't have a telegram. I don't even know what that is.

• 1:09:11Laci Mosley?

  Okay.

• 1:09:12Speaker 10

  I will not ask you.

• 1:09:13Laci Mosley?

  I like the PSA. I mean, looking at her just phenotypically, this is the type of blonde white woman that gets every fantasy projected on her.

• 1:09:22Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:09:23Laci Mosley?

  Um, not to say this doesn't happen to people of all races. I've had people show up at a former address of mine looking for me.

• 1:09:28Speaker 06

  No.

• 1:09:29Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, my landlord like will call me and like I had moved already and they were like, hey, somebody just came into the building. They were looking for you. They weren't like I was delivering a package or something. She was like, no, it didn't give me that vibe at all. She was like, I would just like be careful. But no one knows where I live now. I don't even have my name anywhere where you can see it. And also, if you buy a house, buy it in a trust. Um, so golf hotties, if any of you guys hear this, if you're buying homes, buy that in a trust. Don't buy that in your name because that's public record.

• 1:09:53Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:09:54Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. So, but she said they use his, I wish that she had clarified what his job was because she said he used his work at his job. And I was like, girl, what that mean?

• 1:10:03Speaker 06

  Probably a police officer. It's always a police officer.

• 1:10:06Laci Mosley?

  Gotta be, gotta be.

• 1:10:08Speaker 06

  So this guy is a psycho because you know, and men will stop at nothing. I love that she's giving him grace to be like, you know, he, he wasn't violent. He left on his own accord.

• 1:10:17Laci Mosley?

  He was violent. He came to your home. That's violence.

• 1:10:19Speaker 06

  He also abused his position of power to find your address. Like even if it was the real Haley messaging him, that is.

• 1:10:28Laci Mosley?

  And one of his mind was the best case scenario. He already knows that he had been scammed.

• 1:10:32Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:10:32Laci Mosley?

  He already knows he was talking to a fake person and gave that fake person money. So what in your mind do you stand to gain by coming over to this lady's house unannounced? What do you think she was gonna open the door and be like, oh, I'm the real one. Have sex with me. Like what, what is the best case scenario here?

• 1:10:47Speaker 06

  But I wonder if he thinks, just like when men buy a drink, they think they're owed something. I wonder if he does feel that he is owed something. From whom? Whatever, but 50 grand.

• 1:10:57Laci Mosley?

  Well, he didn't use his work at his job to track down this scammer.

• 1:10:59Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:11:00Laci Mosley?

  Because that's who owes you.

• 1:11:01Speaker 06

  That's it.

• 1:11:02Laci Mosley?

  And it's probably a man.

• 1:11:03Speaker 06

  I know it is probably a man. Yeah.

• 1:11:06Laci Mosley?

  Because men know how to talk to other desperate thirsty men.

• 1:11:08Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:11:09Laci Mosley?

  Yep.

• 1:11:10Speaker 06

  And we have man far, far away.

• 1:11:12Laci Mosley?

  It's a man far, far away. That's exactly what it is. So we're gonna wrap that scam up here. We do have a little scammer of the week before we get out of here. But I just wanted your final thoughts here. Like, how do you feel about this scam?

• 1:11:25Speaker 06

  Initially, Lacey, I love the scam because it, for once, we are predating upon these like older men who think that they deserve access to a very young woman whose frontal lobe is still developing. And I don't like that. And I think that they're perfectly positioned to be scammed. But then I think there is like a larger message that this could happen to anyone. This could happen to any of us.

• 1:11:49Laci Mosley?

  That's true.

• 1:11:50Speaker 06

  With all AI coming out and everyone having a social media account.

• 1:11:54Laci Mosley?

  And it is happening more and more. And I mean, you think about media literacy, like, I feel like it's the older generations and then the younger generations who have less media literacy when it comes to AI and things like that. So I think about like kids in high school. Like, what if your favorite pop singer like hits you up? Tell, asks you to meet somewhere, meet and greet, or, you know.

• 1:12:14Speaker 06

  Oh, my gosh. The catfishing has reached like a new level of danger, for sure, for everyone.

• 1:12:19Laci Mosley?

  I miss old catfishing when it was like, I'm Bruno Mars.

• 1:12:23Speaker 06

  I'm dating little Bow Wow.

• 1:12:25Laci Mosley?

  Right, and I need $10,000 from your grandma.

• 1:12:29Laci Mosley?

  Like, I miss that kind of catfishing.

• 1:12:30Speaker 06

  But also, I think sometimes with AI, and we've seen this with like sexual exploitation already, the law is starting to catch up. So Paris Hilton was just speaking publicly about when her sex tape was maliciously released. Back then, we could slut shame her. It was like the punchline and a lot of jokes, this sex tape. But really, what happened to her was a sex crime. And that's how we look at it today. Same with Monica Lewinsky. She talks all the time about what she went through. She was like the first person to be internet bullied on that scale.

• 1:13:04Laci Mosley?

  Pamela Anderson.

• 1:13:05Speaker 06

  Exactly. We slut shamed all of these women. And I think one thing I will say about the men who've been scammed is that there just isn't the legislation to help them recover that money. Because they have been defrauded.

• 1:13:17Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 1:13:17Speaker 06

  But I don't think police work or the justice system has caught up with what AI is capable of. And like this cryptocurrency that you mentioned, and like, these people are uncatchable. And that is a shame. Because if you are scammed out of 70 grand, there should be some recourse for you to get it back.

• 1:13:33Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, and at times there is, but that typically only happens when you have a serial romantic fraudster.

• 1:13:39Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:13:40Laci Mosley?

  So if you're a serial romantic scammer, they'll start to add it up and they'll, you know, like, most of the time, people won't get their money back, but they'll get some sort of justice sometimes, but it is very rare, especially in romantic scams, because there's such a huge gray area where it's like, in this one, I feel like with the AI, it kind of lends itself to hopefully a better fraud case. But I feel like in other romantic scams where the person is presenting to be who they say they are,

• 1:14:02Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:14:03Laci Mosley?

  they're just lying about their whole circumstance to you. It's kind of like, well, how do we negotiate for like, are we gonna put people in jail for lying?

• 1:14:11Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:14:12Laci Mosley?

  And that's like, that's a gray area.

• 1:14:13Speaker 06

  Although who was it? Was it, was it Mariah Carey? Yes. It was Mariah Carey who was married.

• 1:14:19Laci Mosley?

  Wasted her time?

• 1:14:20Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:14:21Laci Mosley?

  She sued for her husband wasting her time. Yeah.

• 1:14:23Speaker 06

  And won.

• 1:14:24Laci Mosley?

  Mariah Carey's time is so expensive. We can't afford Mariah Carey. So we're gonna wrap this episode up with scammer of the week. Uh, this is where we highlight a charlatan who may or may not be worthy of our praise. Um, or maybe a group of criminals. We'll see. Right now investigators are on the hunt for a less attractive Jason Statham lookalike, who stole seventeen hundred dollars worth of caviar from a Whole Foods in Irvine, California. This is a very accurate depiction of what this man looks like. However, if I were this man, I would be offended because how you gonna call me a less attractive Jason Statham?

• 1:14:59Speaker 06

  Well.

• 1:15:00Laci Mosley?

  It's true, but like, damn.

• 1:15:03Speaker 06

  Jason Statham's just catching strays. He's like, hang on.

• 1:15:07Laci Mosley?

  Jason Statham, if Stevie Wonder drew him from memory, like, what? Why would you say that to me?

• 1:15:13Speaker 06

  I was expecting someone far more attractive.

• 1:15:15Laci Mosley?

  I was too.

• 1:15:16Speaker 06

  Than this less attractive Jason Statham.

• 1:15:18Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 1:15:19Speaker 06

  But wait a minute, you can steal seventeen hundred dollars of caviar from Whole Foods? Whole Foods has caviar?

• 1:15:24Laci Mosley?

  Whole Foods does have caviar, but I imagine that's probably not that much caviar.

• 1:15:28Speaker 06

  Whoa.

• 1:15:29Laci Mosley?

  But his hands look a little full. So let's see, how much is some Buluga caviar right now?

• 1:15:33Speaker 06

  Oh, like fifty dollars. I forgot.

• 1:15:35Laci Mosley?

  Okay, so seventeen hundred dollars worth is still like a very, pretty heavy full bag.

• 1:15:39Speaker 06

  Well, there is caviar that's way more expensive, but not Whole Foods caviar. Wow, alright, so he's just mad for the fish eggs.

• 1:15:46Laci Mosley?

  But I was thinking it would be from like a sturgeon, like some beluga.

• 1:15:49Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:15:50Laci Mosley?

  You know, cuz it's just like, lots of fish have eggs and they're called roe, you know what I mean?

• 1:15:54Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:15:55Laci Mosley?

  But, so he does this, right, in California. It happens in December at the Whole Foods located on Irvine Center Drive. The police department threw a necessary shade at the culprit in a Wanted Wednesday post asking for the public's help finding the thief. So this is what they said, this is the police department in Irvine.

• 1:16:12Speaker 06

  This is not Jason Statham filming an action scene in a grocery store. Last month, this man entered Whole Foods, selected several items to appear as part of a typical shopping trip, then concealed about seventeen hundred dollars worth of caviar inside a paper Whole Foods bag that he had brought with him. So he's sustainable. He ditched the basket and exited the store with the caviar instead. If you recognize him, please contact Detective Drake. Detective Drake.

• 1:16:40Laci Mosley?

  Detective Drake is a hater.

• 1:16:42Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:16:44Laci Mosley?

  He said, "Not so action film." No, I kinda love it, though.

• 1:16:48Speaker 06

  I like that police, local police stations are intentionally trying to go viral by doing cute stuff like this. Like, I've seen a few posts on social media where like, whatever marketing manager of the police force.

• 1:17:01Laci Mosley?

  Is now a millennial, the millennials are cops now.

• 1:17:03Speaker 06

  That's it.

• 1:17:04Laci Mosley?

  That's what it is.

• 1:17:04Speaker 06

  They're trying to be funny.

• 1:17:05Laci Mosley?

  They're trying to be funny. But this is very millennial-coded, although I want my police to do police work. Like, stop getting out here and asking us to tag people. Go, go look in the streets, put some Wanted posters up, like, do your job. What you mean you getting on social media like, "Tag us"? No, do your job.

• 1:17:24Speaker 06

  A special Wanted Wednesday.

• 1:17:26Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, Wanted Wednesday is kinda cute, though.

• 1:17:28Speaker 06

  Fugitive Friday.

• 1:17:29Laci Mosley?

  Fugitive Friday, yes. Thieving Thursday.

• 1:17:34Speaker 06

  Oh, uh-huh.

• 1:17:35Laci Mosley?

  Yes.

• 1:17:36Speaker 06

  Scamming Saturday.

• 1:17:36Laci Mosley?

  Scamming Saturdays, for sure.

• 1:17:38Speaker 06

  Sunday, you take off.

• 1:17:39Laci Mosley?

  Sunday, yeah, that's the day of rest. That's the day of rest. Um, what is it, Madoff Mondays?

• 1:17:45Speaker 06

  Yes.

• 1:17:46Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, yeah, you got something for the whole week.

• 1:17:48Speaker 06

  I like that we don't know that many types of crime. We're pure of heart.

• 1:17:53Laci Mosley?

  I mean, I'm trying to think of like, what, we could be mischief Mondays. That's for like misdemeanor Mondays?

• 1:17:58Speaker 06

  Misdemeanor Mondays, yeah.

• 1:18:00Laci Mosley?

  Yes. The state of stand-in was bald, had scruffy facial hair and was dressed in all black. He tried to disguise his crime by putting a handful of everyday items in the basket, right? Meanwhile, he was like filling the whole whole food bag up. I love that you said he was sustainable because I agree with you. I feel like that's really admirable of him and now I don't want him to get caught. Whatever like dinner party he's throwing where he needs this caviar. Or, you know, if he's selling caviar to like struggling Real Housewives.

• 1:18:26Speaker 06

  Yeah, yes.

• 1:18:27Laci Mosley?

  You know, they get it off the truck now. Everybody can't maintain on Real Housewives. You know, a lot of them ladies renting those homes, it's a scam.

• 1:18:33Speaker 06

  For sure. I think high-end theft is definitely inexcusable. You can't be stealing caviar. If you need to steal bread for your family, you need to steal like apples, bananas, go ahead.

• 1:18:44Laci Mosley?

  But what makes caviar so valuable? I mean, it's really kind of unethical that we're like cutting these sturgeons open, bleeding them dry and then chucking them back in the ocean.

• 1:18:55Speaker 06

  It's the Handmaid's Tale of fish.

• 1:18:57Laci Mosley?

  It is. And I mean, we're kind of making, we, we create the value of things. So whatever, if I make a, you know, shoestring bracelet and I charge $50,000 for it, if somebody wants to buy that, that means that it's now worth $50,000.

• 1:19:12Speaker 06

  It's called Kabbalah.

• 1:19:13Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. It is called Kabbalah. Okay, and I'm bringing it back, guys.

• 1:19:17Speaker 06

  Thank you.

• 1:19:18Laci Mosley?

  You know, that's why we got Scam Goddess. We do all the red and stuff. And so, yeah, we're gonna do a Scambala, okay? We worship the Scam Goddess. That's not me, guys, I swear, okay? It's somebody, some other entity that I'm also worshiping. And, you know, we give what we can a month.

• 1:19:35Speaker 06

  Yep.

• 1:19:36Laci Mosley?

  Every month.

• 1:19:37Speaker 06

  As much as we can, get you closer to Sky Daddy.

• 1:19:39Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, that's how, yeah, maybe it's Sky Daddy, that's who we worship. We worship Sky Daddy. Sky Daddy. That sounds like Hot Buckets.

• 1:19:48Laci Mosley?

  Oh my goodness, Catherine, this is such a good time.

• 1:19:50Speaker 06

  Thank you so much for having me.

• 1:19:51Laci Mosley?

  Thank you so much for being here.

• 1:19:52Speaker 06

  With my jet lag and scratchy voice.

• 1:19:54Laci Mosley?

  Oh, you sound amazing. People are gonna love your voice. It's like ASMR. It was very velvety. I really enjoyed it. We always ask on this show, where would you like to be found? Anything you want to plug? Any social medias? Could be anything.

• 1:20:05Speaker 06

  Oh, yes, my social media is Kathbum. Just K A T H bum. I don't know why. Yeah, my parents called me that. And it was a mistake to put it as all my social media.

• 1:20:15Laci Mosley?

  I think it's kind of cool. Kathbum.

• 1:20:16Speaker 06

  Kathbum.

• 1:20:17Laci Mosley?

  Very easy to remember, too.

• 1:20:18Speaker 06

  Yeah, and then that's it. Like, I live in the UK and I probably won't be coming back to America.

• 1:20:24Laci Mosley?

  That's smart.

• 1:20:25Speaker 06

  I don't know what will be left.

• 1:20:28Laci Mosley?

  Okay, yeah, yeah. When the wars is over.

• 1:20:31Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:20:32Laci Mosley?

  But I don't know if people really want to go to these wars. I feel like everybody is knowing, they're realizing that we're being scammed now. I hate that it took, like, our white people so long to be like, oh, my gosh, like, things are getting bad. They're stashing people off the streets. They're shooting them with no probable cause. And black people was like, yeah.

• 1:20:48Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:20:49Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. Like, we said. In a time like this, it was like, it's always been this time, though, so you could laugh. Or like, how we keep comparing everything to Nazi Germany. And I'm like, did y'all forget that the Nazis took their playbook from Jim Crow? We are the originators of the playbook. Hitler was watching us. The call has always been from inside the house.

• 1:21:10Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:21:10Laci Mosley?

  But I feel like people like to use nineteen or nineteen thirty-nine, nineteen, you know, thirties Germany, because we were the heroes in that case. So it's like, oh, look at the, this is getting bad, like, when we had to defeat those Nazis. And it's like, yeah, we were the heroes then, but we gave the heroes the playbook.

• 1:21:27Speaker 06

  That's it.

• 1:21:27Laci Mosley?

  That scam. I don't know why I'm saying that right now. I'm gonna get out of this podcast. But, uh, yeah, y'all, you can see any of my live shows that are coming out. March twenty-sixth, I'll be in Chicago at the House of Blues. April ninth, I'll be in. I need to look at it because I can't remember.

• 1:21:48Speaker 06

  I love that you remembered even one without looking.

• 1:21:51Laci Mosley?

  I've been saying them so often that I was like, maybe I got it. And I think I overshot it. Okay, so. March 26th, Chicago, Illinois. I'll be at the House of Blues. April 9th, I will be in Irving, Texas. That is my hometown. Y'all better show out at the Punchline Comedy Club. April 18th, I'll be in New York City at the Grand Mercy. And April 30th, I'll be in San Francisco, California at the Cobb's Theater. Y'all already know that show is gonna be crazy. Congregation, you can follow me at D I B A L A C I D Velaci on all platforms. And if you want to see the photos of all of these very beautiful golfers and then a very, very ugly scammer at the end to just, you know.

• 1:22:30Speaker 06

  And you can follow me at DivaLacy69Investment.

• 1:22:36Laci Mosley?

  Oh, yeah. DivaLacy69Investment, homes and private dinners.

• 1:22:41Speaker 06

  Homes and private dinners. It's a long handle. You will remember it.

• 1:22:46Laci Mosley?

  Yes.

• 1:22:50Laci Mosley?

  Scam Goddess stars and is hosted by me, Lacey Mosley, AKA Scam Goddess. Our producer is Jessica Sisneros and our audio engineer is Rich Garcia. Research for the show is conducted by Kate Doyle. Stay schemin'.

• 1:23:06Speaker 01

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• 1:23:50Speaker 01

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• 1:23:58Speaker 11

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• 1:24:28Speaker 12

  She's been thinking about this sleepover all week, but I think about her food allergies all the time. Fortunately, her doctor prescribed Zolair, omalizumab. It's proven to significantly reduce allergic reactions if a food allergy accident happens.

• 1:24:41Speaker 13

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• 1:25:26Speaker 13

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• 1:25:29Speaker 07

  This war amongst us has got to end.

• 1:25:31Speaker 14

  The Hulu original phenomenon, All's Fair, returns.

• 1:25:35Speaker 07

  You got one shot to make this right.

• 1:25:37Speaker 11

  I'm not saying I hate you, but I would unplug your life support to charge my phone.

• 1:25:42Speaker 14

  From executive producer Ryan Murphy.

• 1:25:44Speaker 11

  I will not stop, and I will win. Let's give these girls a show.

• 1:25:48Speaker 14

  This? It's gonna be a good time. The Hulu original series, All's Fair, premieres November 4th on Hulu and Hulu on Disney+ for bonus subscribers. Terms apply.