Fraud Friday: The Shady Legal Squatter w/ Traci Thomas

Laci welcomes Traci Thomas (The Stacks Podcast) to discuss Jamison Bachman, a man who posed as a charming tenant only to victimize his roommates, determined to take their homes from under them. Plus, an elderly woman pleads guilty to helping a Nigerian scammer she fell in love with. Stay Schemin’! (Originally Released 03/28/2022) CONgregation, catch Laci's TV Show, Scam Goddess, now on Freeform and Hulu! Did you miss out on a custom signed Scam Goddess: Lessons from a Life of Cons, Grifts and Schemes book? Look no more, nab your copy here on PODSWAG Follow on Instagram: Scam Goddess Pod: @scamgoddesspod Laci Mosley: @divalaci Traci Thomas: @thestackspod Research by Kaelyn Brandt SOURCES: https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/jamison-bachman-worst-roommate-ever.html https://thenetline.com/jamison-bachman-now/ https://www.timesnewspapers.com/webster-kirkwoodtimes/woman-sentenced-after-helping-scam-artist/article_1b2ae9e0-9b02-11ec-bb64-5ff45577d3b2.html https://ipropertymanagement.com/laws/california-squatters-rights#:~:text=A%20squatter%20can%20claim%20rights,ownership%20of%20the%20property%20legally

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• 2:01Laci Mosley?

  What's poppin', congregation? It's your girl, Lacey Mosley, AKA Scam Goddess. Welcome to an episode of Fraud Fridays, where we release older episodes from the Scam Goddess Vault. That's right, Fraud Fridays is where we bring back your favorite episodes from behind the paywall. Enjoy this episode from behind the paywall, and as always, stay schemin'.

• 2:42Laci Mosley?

  What is poppin', congregation? It's your girl, Lacey Mosley, AKA Scam Goddess. Welcome back to another installment of Scam Goddess. No, you are not on 1.5 speed, I'm just talking really fast. Did I say my name was Lacey Mosley? I believe I did. This is a podcast dedicated to fraud, scams, boondockery, bamboozling, robbery, car, anything, and all those that practice it. Guys, I'm very, yes, excited. You know I am, you know I am, honey. Very excited for today's guest. We have a black queen on the show. We have the host, the creator of The Stacks, a podcast all about books. Remember those, honey? Get your eyes into them. Each week, special guests come on the show to discuss books that they love, hate, haven't read, or books that they wrote.

• 3:27Laci Mosley?

  New episodes of The Stacks drop every Wednesday. Congregation, please welcome Tracy Thomas to the show. Hi, Tracy.

• 3:34Speaker 05

  I'm so excited to be here.

• 3:36Laci Mosley?

  So Tracy, you are after my own heart because I love the spelling of your name.

• 3:40Speaker 05

  Yes. Okay, do you want to hear the craziest thing? This is wild. My married last name, a name that I do not use, is Casey. So my married name is Tracy Casey. Do you want to die for me? Because I know you would die if that was your married last name also.

• 3:57Laci Mosley?

  Tracy Casey? No, I love that, that's a name for crime. Tracy Casey gotta be out here robbing people. And Tracy, I just assumed you were black. Are you white?

• 4:05Speaker 05

  I am, I am. I'm half, I'm mixed. I got a white mom and a black dad, yeah.

• 4:10Laci Mosley?

  Yes, yes. Yes, I just, you know how black people be. I just assumed. I was like, no, Tracy's black.

• 4:17Speaker 05

  Nailed it.

• 4:19Laci Mosley?

  But Tracy, yes, I saw my last name with, or my, my first name with an I as well. I guess we didn't do this, our mothers.

• 4:25Speaker 05

  No, my dad did my name.

• 4:27Laci Mosley?

  Okay.

• 4:27Speaker 05

  Came in hot, like, it's gonna be with an I. Like, I guess for my brother, they spent a lot of time on his name. For me, my dad just like went to my mom and was like, it'll be Tracy with an I, thank you. And that was it, done.

• 4:39Laci Mosley?

  Your dad has so much influence in the naming process.

• 4:42Speaker 05

  Yeah, he nailed it.

• 4:43Laci Mosley?

  For me, it was my grandmother, because my mom wanted to name me Lark. Um, and I love that name, but my grandmother was like, no. And so we went with Lacey, and my mom's Lori with an I, so I'm Lacey with an I, which.

• 4:53Speaker 05

  I love this.

• 4:54Laci Mosley?

  Anytime, only, I've said this on the podcast before, but only when I get in an Uber, they will say my name wrong. Every time I get in an Uber.

• 5:00Speaker 05

  What do they say?

• 5:01Laci Mosley?

  It doesn't matter the nationality of the driver. It's, uh, Lachai, Lucky, Laci, um, Lakai. I've heard everything, and I'm like, y'all, it's really just L A C I, but you know, go off.

• 5:14Speaker 05

  Oh, my God.

• 5:15Laci Mosley?

  So Tracy with an I. Uh, what is your relationship with scams? Do you like them, do you hate them? Have you ever been scammed? It could be anything.

• 5:23Speaker 05

  Okay, I, I have been scammed.

• 5:27Laci Mosley?

  Okay.

• 5:27Speaker 05

  Recently, and I want to talk about it.

• 5:29Laci Mosley?

  Recently? Okay, we love a recent con.

• 5:30Speaker 05

  Not super recent, I should say. It was at the beginning of the pandemic, and to my defense, before I say more, I have twins, children, twin, twin kids, and they are two years old. And at the time, they were, yeah, talk about a fucking.

• 5:45Laci Mosley?

  Did you, did you, were you bargaining for one baby? And they were like, you gonna get two?

• 5:49Speaker 05

  I was like, maybe I'll get pregnant. And then I got pregnant with two babies in a month. So it was, that's the ultimate scam. But so, okay, my kids are like four months, the pandemic has just started. I'm, you know, running the podcast, doing my whole thing, trying to be a mom. My husband is a medical professional, so he's out of the house, like, doing, saving lives, curing COVID, I don't know. And I get this email on my business account from Amazon that's like, hey, something, something TV, right? And I'm like, I haven't slept in seven years, like, let me call the number. When I say it, I'm like embarrassed.

• 6:23Laci Mosley?

  You call Mr. Amazon, you call Jeff Bezos?

• 6:25Speaker 05

  To be like, I don't know why this TV is going to Kentucky.

• 6:31Speaker 05

  I'm so embarrassed telling the story.

• 6:32Laci Mosley?

  So you had made a purchase of a television?

• 6:34Speaker 05

  No, no, no, no. I just got a receipt and I was like, oh, they must have sent this wrong person. I hope they don't charge me for this TV that got sent to Kansas or Kentucky. So I call, I start talking to the guy. He's like, great, we're gonna, we're gonna request a new thing, like, go ahead. And he's like, walking me through the steps to change my password or whatever. And so I'm like clicking the button and he's like, okay, what's the code they just sent you? And then it's like, great, just tell me the code over the phone. And then all of a sudden, of course, it dawns on me and I just hang up. And then I like call Amazon and I'm like, I think I got scammed. Like, I have nuke babies and like, I don't know why they're targeting me. But it was fine. But then last week, I got a thing from

• 7:15Speaker 05

  my bank that was like, we got an address change on your bank. So I call the number and I'm like, and then they're like, what's your social security number? And I was like, oh, my God, I'm getting scammed. So I hang up and then I call my bank again. And then they're like, no, it wasn't a scam. We really just messed up your address. And I was like, you know what? I got scammed a year and a half ago by Amazon and I will trust no one ever again.

• 7:39Laci Mosley?

  Well, Tracy, better safe. We always say on this podcast, hanging up is definitely the step one when you feel like you're being scammed over the phone is just go ahead and remove yourself from the conversation. Two, I sensed that you were like prefacing this with these details, but Tracy, there's no shame on this podcast. I've been scammed. A lot of our listeners, no, a lot of our listeners have been scammed. Listen, I am a mark, I'm a scammer. There is no shame. There's no shame.

• 8:02Speaker 05

  Oh, my God. It was like the stupidest scam. It was like a picture of a receipt. I blew it. I hate myself because I think that I'm like so tough and smart because I am passionate about like a cult moment, like a scammer and a cult. Like, I love the Theranos thing. I was big in Theranos before every outlet covered it.

• 8:21Laci Mosley?

  We're team Lizzie over here.

• 8:23Speaker 05

  Yeah, just huge, huge on all of that stuff. So I was like, I'll never get scammed. I'm, my eyes are wide open. Like, I am here to protect myself against these people. And then they're like, you ordered a TV to Kansas. And I'm like, oh, my God, I super didn't. Do you want all of my information? Thanks.

• 8:40Laci Mosley?

  Listen, it happens to the best of us and this is fresh off of the scam of you having two babies.

• 8:45Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 8:45Laci Mosley?

  Because you better than me. If I, if I said I want one baby and they talking about two, I'd be like, what y'all gonna do with the other one?

• 8:51Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 8:52Laci Mosley?

  What we gonna do?

• 8:53Speaker 05

  Apparently you can't put them back in. After they came, I was like, can they be returned? Because it's a lot.

• 8:59Laci Mosley?

  No, did I hit sin twice? No, I only wanted one.

• 9:05Laci Mosley?

  Cause that's just twice the baby, that's twice the food, twice the clothes.

• 9:09Speaker 05

  Twice the diapers.

• 9:10Laci Mosley?

  Oh, twice the diapers. Oh, man. Cause at least with clothes, maybe you could like, they, they wear the same size, the same size.

• 9:15Speaker 05

  They all, it's all the same clothes. We rotate. We don't do an exact twin on twin. Cause they're identical twins. So it's like, why would I make this harder for myself?

• 9:24Laci Mosley?

  Okay. Which I say, I will say with an identical twin, I feel like you could get a little double mint moment out of these babies. You know what I mean? We can get the babies employed.

• 9:32Speaker 05

  Yeah. I mean, I feel like I should, I feel like I should be taking them to all the studios and be like, here are my beautiful children, past millions. Have you heard of Mary Kay and Ashley? I'll do you one better. Look at these two.

• 9:43Laci Mosley?

  Right. I bet they're beautiful. I will, cause you, you are a beautiful woman. So I'm sure the kids are giving with the facials and the face cards.

• 9:49Speaker 05

  They're very cute. They're very cute.

• 9:50Laci Mosley?

  Yes.

• 9:50Speaker 05

  If I do say so myself, as their mom.

• 9:53Laci Mosley?

  I cooked them up good. You know, like I cooked up a real fresh batch of kids. They're delicious. I, I will say though, during COVID, it is harder to be like, get the babies employed. Because if there wasn't COVID, then I'd be like, cause I, working as an actor, like people will hand me fresh babies on set that I have to work with. And this is like a, like this baby is fresh, fresh. I'm like, y'all just splashed it off and gave it to me like, damn, did you cut that umbilical cord? So, you know, back then people used to offer up their fresh babies all the time. But yeah, with COVID, I, I totally get that. But you, you know what? You did the right thing. I would say you shouldn't be embarrassed about this because you did hang up the phone when you started to realize that things were a little sus.

• 10:26Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 10:27Laci Mosley?

  And you know, you didn't order a TV.

• 10:28Speaker 05

  I didn't, yeah, I didn't like actually lose my entire Amazon account. Thank God.

• 10:33Laci Mosley?

  But people will do that. Like if you get unprompted emails and you know, you haven't bought anything, you know, you haven't purchased anything, just let the email go. I've gotten emails where they had my password and they were like, oh girl, we got your password and we about to leak all your shit. And I just don't respond. Like, what are they gonna do?

• 10:48Speaker 05

  Yeah, yeah, you're so right. Yeah, you're right. I just, now I just delete. I'm like, oh, I ordered another TV. I've gotten like five more of the exact same one since then. And every time I get so mad, I'm like, okay, okay. I'm not gonna fall for it again, people.

• 11:03Laci Mosley?

  They're like, we got Tracy to call Mr. Prime once. Let's see if we can get her to call Mr. Prime one more time. Like, no, just call Mr. Prime and give him the password. Because, yeah, guys, anytime somebody's trying to verify codes with you or things like that, it's like, if they don't have any information on their side, we say this on this podcast all the time, any institution that has your information will treat you like a very jealous girlfriend that you cheated on multiple times or partner in general. They'll be like, where were you? And when? And what time? Okay, and then, and then what was the last four digits? Like, they're never gonna just ask you for all the information. They should have the information as well. We don't ask questions we don't know the answer to. But no, that's not, that's not too bad.

• 11:40Speaker 05

  You've heard worse?

• 11:42Laci Mosley?

  I've heard much, much, much worse.

• 11:46Laci Mosley?

  And there still wouldn't be judgment. But do you think, like, are you against scammers? Do you kind of understand where they come from? Does it depend on the scam?

• 11:53Speaker 05

  I love a scammer. I, I mean, if it's not, if you're not scamming me, I'm here for it. I love to hate a scammer. Like, I think Elizabeth Holmes is a perfect human being as far as like entertainment purposes. I'm like, like, the look, the hair, that turtleneck, just the voice. Holy shit, like, are you out of your mind with that voice? Elizabeth. But I like, one of my favorite, this isn't really a scam. This is more of a cult, but like, I, but it had a scam element is Jonestown. Jim Jones, one of my, one of my obsessions. I just, I'm, I'm here for it. The audacity of it, right? Like, you just are gonna do this and everyone's just gonna say yes? Okay.

• 12:37Laci Mosley?

  That's the audacity. I would say that cults fall under scams. Like, you have to have a certain personality to start a cult, to believe you. And you know, and I, I feel like it's a big Leo energy.

• 12:47Speaker 05

  Yes, well, I am a Leo. So I think this is why I love these people.

• 12:52Laci Mosley?

  They're like, yeah, religion around me, yeah.

• 12:54Speaker 05

  Yes, of course.

• 12:55Laci Mosley?

  Sounds normal, plausible.

• 12:57Speaker 05

  Yeah, I also love the, like, really, like, like, the Lula rich ones. Like, the really, it's just like, those leggings were moldy. Like, what? Millions.

• 13:07Laci Mosley?

  The leggings were a little mold, but you know what you, all you had to do was put them in the oven. They said just blow them in the oven real quick.

• 13:13Speaker 05

  The freezer.

• 13:14Laci Mosley?

  Yep, and they, and they good as new, okay, good as new. Uh, and I, I love that, that's such a great segue into our first segment here. What's hot and fraud? This is where we warn our listeners about popping scams and the zeitgeist and more often than not, we get a letter from you guys. As always, snitch on your friends and family at [email protected]. Just make sure the scam is retired because we don't want to what? Yes, fuck up your bag. So I just need a fake name from you, Tracy. It could be, we don't care about gender.

• 13:37Speaker 05

  Clancy.

• 13:38Laci Mosley?

  Oh, Clancy, I love that. That's, that Clancy sounds like somebody who was like in the early 1920s and like had horses and maybe like a general store.

• 13:48Speaker 05

  No, Clancy to me sounds like the old black dude at the barber shop, like, oh, oh, Clancy back there.

• 13:53Laci Mosley?

  Oh, God, okay, if we're going that way, Clancy is definitely a ho-tup who has, who didn't get the vaccine because of 5G.

• 14:01Speaker 05

  Mm-hmm.

• 14:02Laci Mosley?

  And Mary J Blige, and that all adds up when Clancy, uh, tells you about it. So Clancy says that about eight years ago, a bunch of my girlfriends convinced me to join them in a sort of self empowerment slash new age phone group pyramid scheme.

• 14:21Laci Mosley?

  What a sentence.

• 14:22Speaker 05

  Too many adjectives.

• 14:24Laci Mosley?

  Self empowerment, new age, phone group, pyramid scheme. I mean, you got me, so we gotta have an iPhone.

• 14:36Speaker 05

  Say more.

• 14:37Laci Mosley?

  We definitely got crystals. You know what I mean?

• 14:40Speaker 05

  Deep breathing, there's gonna be a lot of breath work.

• 14:43Laci Mosley?

  You know about chakras? Cause you definitely gonna need your chakras for this.

• 14:49Laci Mosley?

  I mean, the thing is, is like wellness scams and the cult of like, I don't know, I'm so on the fence about this and I guess I'm a cynic, but when I, I have some friends who are real hippie dippy and you know, I got some sage, I own some sage, I got a few crystals. But certain people, when they're just like, when they, that's like how they speak all the time. I'm just like, what's going on with you? And they're like, you know, I, I, this is what I, I'm creating space for this and I'm holding space for this. And I'm, I'm just like, mm.

• 15:17Speaker 05

  Yeah, I'm with you. I mean, unless it's your job, like I have a woman who gives me massages and she speaks in a foreign language of wellness, but I'm like, okay. Like your whole job is to heal people, I guess. But anytime she like, will be like, oh, blah, blah, blah. You know, charcoal interior ligament scrub. And I'm like, how do you do that? She's like, you drink this drink and then you charge the crystals in the moon. And then in six weeks of drinking the drink, you'll have new bones. And I'm like, what? Excuse me?

• 15:46Laci Mosley?

  It's gonna scrub my ligaments from the inside?

• 15:49Speaker 05

  I'm like, okay.

• 15:50Laci Mosley?

  You have a new cartilage scrub. What? How do you, how do you scrub cartilage, boo? That's on the, okay.

• 15:56Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 15:57Laci Mosley?

  I'mma drink it though. I'mma sip, I'mma drink it.

• 15:59Speaker 05

  Yeah, just go ahead and get that knot right there. That would be great. Thank you.

• 16:02Laci Mosley?

  I will say that if you're in the wellness space and that's your profession, that's the only time I'm not as creeped out. Cause I won't lie, like the bedside manner of a masseuse being like, oh yeah, get that neck out, queen. I'm about to bust all of your neck. Yeah, I don't, that feels, that's the wrong language. When I get a, when I get a massage, I do want them to be like, okay, and now we're gonna really uproot. I want them to say things like uproot.

• 16:22Speaker 05

  Yes, yes, exactly, exactly. But like when your friend who's in marketing is like telling you about a way to like clean your chakras or whatever, you're like, okay.

• 16:33Laci Mosley?

  Like you work for Pepsi.

• 16:34Speaker 05

  Yeah, don't, isn't there like an Instagram story you need to be working on? Like, let's, let's do this.

• 16:39Laci Mosley?

  I'm definitely with you on that. So it was presented as a sister circle where we would all be supporting our sisters. Not you already laughing at sister circle. Why can't the girls have a shape? The girls want a shape.

• 16:53Speaker 05

  It's a surprise.

• 16:54Laci Mosley?

  I feel like circle is overused. If you're gonna get into scamming, like give me a octagon.

• 16:59Speaker 05

  I'll take an oval.

• 17:00Laci Mosley?

  Give me a, a queen's rhombus. A regal rhombus.

• 17:04Speaker 05

  Parallelogram.

• 17:05Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 17:06Speaker 05

  Parallelogram for the people.

• 17:08Laci Mosley?

  Yes, parallelogram for the people, okay? That's what I want. I feel like circle is just, you know, even oval would, would hit my ear.

• 17:16Speaker 05

  A little close, yeah.

• 17:17Laci Mosley?

  So this is a sister circle where we'd be supporting our sisters, meditating on abundance and checking in once a week with each other on a group phone call.

• 17:28Speaker 05

  No.

• 17:28Laci Mosley?

  Hmm.

• 17:29Speaker 05

  No.

• 17:30Laci Mosley?

  Tracy, you don't wanna meditate on abundance?

• 17:31Speaker 05

  Do you wanna get on another phone call? Be honest. Is that gonna make you feel better? Is it a Zoom?

• 17:37Laci Mosley?

  Zooms.

• 17:38Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 17:40Laci Mosley?

  You sage in all the Zoom squares? I don't know, I'm into it. I'm into it so far. I joined the circle.

• 17:45Speaker 05

  Okay, have fun.

• 17:47Laci Mosley?

  Damn, Tracy, you not coming?

• 17:48Speaker 05

  No.

• 17:51Speaker 05

  I want you to tell me about it, though. Text me afterwards and tell me what they all said.

• 17:56Laci Mosley?

  Tracy, get out the car, come on. We manifest in abundance. I love, I love a meditation moment. It's just closing your eyes and thinking. And I love that. I love that for everyone involved. So it's set up like an old school pyramid scheme. Airplane game where you have the different levels, starting with the appetizer. Now, hold on, we started with a circle and now we're moving on to a food analogy.

• 18:18Speaker 05

  Maybe it's like on the circular plate, there's an appetizer.

• 18:21Laci Mosley?

  Okay, see, you could be a part of this, Tracy. You're already explaining it.

• 18:24Speaker 05

  I told you I'm a Leo, I've got the vision.

• 18:26Laci Mosley?

  The Leo is happening out. So at the bottom is the appetizer. We, Dan, we don't start with the amuse-bouche. We start with the appetizer, okay. And then at the top level, you're a dessert.

• 18:39Speaker 05

  Oh.

• 18:40Laci Mosley?

  Okay.

• 18:40Speaker 05

  Where is the snack, though?

• 18:42Laci Mosley?

  Right, it's, I don't know why this sounds sexual to me, but, okay. So I think these things were given so that anyone, if they ever saw the communications that was from an outside group, they would think we were just planning a potluck, okay? I was pretty, I was pretty sure that this was some bullshit, but a lot of my friends made it through the ranks very quickly and came out of the other side. To be a part of this group, you had to put in $10,000. I had a friend lend me the $10,000 with the agreement that I would pay it back to her when our circle was complete. So I just feel like if I'm manifesting abundance and I already got 10K, I should probably just work with that.

• 19:16Speaker 05

  I would just take that to an investor.

• 19:19Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 19:20Speaker 05

  Also, I love that it's a circle, but it's really a pyramid scheme. And also, you don't get the money till your circle's complete. So it's actually just a line, it sounds like to me. Just like, it's not, there's no circle happening.

• 19:32Laci Mosley?

  Tracy, how many geometric figures have we just passed through so quickly? It started as a circle and then it's really a triangle.

• 19:40Speaker 05

  This is a geometry podcast.

• 19:42Laci Mosley?

  But really, it's linear. Yeah, they're just hoping you never took geometry.

• 19:46Speaker 05

  Yes, yeah, exactly.

• 19:47Laci Mosley?

  They're hoping that you slept through it.

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• 21:51Laci Mosley?

  And so this was not money that I had lying around, but my more affluent friends did and they were able to pool their affluent friends. Some people went to the top in less than a month. Wow. So if you, if I feel like if I have that many friends who have $10,000, I probably wouldn't be able to convince them to join a circle of meditate. Like, like you have me on the healing and the wellness, but you got me confused when it's $10,000. Like I thought we were meditating.

• 22:17Speaker 05

  What's the product? What's the thing that they're selling? Just, just a phone call, a group, a group chat? Like, I'm confused on what's the, the thing?

• 22:26Laci Mosley?

  Girl, the circle.

• 22:27Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 22:28Laci Mosley?

  And the sisters. And it's a sisterhood.

• 22:32Speaker 05

  So it's just you're buying, you're buying $10,000 worth of rich friends?

• 22:35Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, you know how circles have like a diameter? And then they have a circumference? So $10,000. Anyway.

• 22:44Speaker 05

  Got it. Done.

• 22:45Laci Mosley?

  It makes sense. Think about it. You know, you need to meditate longer, Tracy. That's why you're not assisting a lot of negativity.

• 22:50Speaker 05

  I'm not zen. I, there's something clogging my inner aura. I don't know.

• 22:54Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, you backed up and it's because.

• 22:57Speaker 05

  It's because I don't know geometry and I don't have $10,000 to give to my friends.

• 23:02Laci Mosley?

  And this is very much an old school scam. There's even like an episode of The Parkers about this that does use these terms, like the dessert and the appetizer. Yes. I can't remember the season, but there's an episode of The Parkers where T gets involved in like a pyramid scheme like this, where it's a dinner party in quotes, but it's, you know, money. So the scheme is that you had to invite women into the circle that would put in $10,000. After five women joined the bottom rung of the appetizer position. So I don't know how circles got rungs. Again, geometry.

• 23:32Laci Mosley?

  So after the five women joined the bottom rung of the appetizer position, the highest dessert position would get their payout of $50,000. And then the circle would split and five more women would have to be invited until it could start over again. So I'm imagining that the circle must split amongst the five people at the bottom, because otherwise.

• 23:50Speaker 05

  I'm so lost. I have to admit, I'm terrible at math and my image, it's just, it's not working for me.

• 23:57Laci Mosley?

  So I guess this person says, Clancy says, I guess I came into the game late because I was very successful in getting people to join. But by the time I was in the position of the dessert and ready to get my bag, people had joined three to five other circles and the whole thing stalled out. I mean, these pyramid schemes can last so long, but this process of failure was accelerated. A lot of the money was coming from growing weed, cash money. Okay, now growing weed is involved.

• 24:21Speaker 05

  Okay, this is a different circle then.

• 24:25Speaker 05

  You sort of buried the lead, Clancy.

• 24:27Laci Mosley?

  Right. Clancy, are you a part of the cartel? Has the cartel gone through a rebrand, girl boss? No, we're a feminist circle of cocaine distribution.

• 24:41Speaker 05

  It's not, it's not a cartel. It's a circle.

• 24:44Laci Mosley?

  It's a circle and we move squares, AKA bricks.

• 24:47Speaker 05

  And bricks.

• 24:49Laci Mosley?

  Like, this is curious. So basically, Clancy is saying that by the time they had invited the people to give the $10,000, the circle had already split up before they gave Clancy the bag.

• 25:02Speaker 05

  But if they joined three other circles, does that mean they put down 30K?

• 25:06Laci Mosley?

  That's what I'm trying to understand. So.

• 25:09Speaker 05

  It sounds like Clancy got scammed within a scam. Like everyone else made out and Clancy got double scammed.

• 25:14Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, it feels like Clancy, you were like, everybody get involved in the circle. And they were like, oh yeah, we will on our own. And then they all became their own desserts and never gave you any pie.

• 25:25Speaker 05

  Well, you just over here, chicken wing, little appetizer.

• 25:28Laci Mosley?

  Damn, yeah, girl. You a size salad. That's mostly lettuce.

• 25:36Speaker 05

  Iceberg.

• 25:37Laci Mosley?

  Iceberg, damn. They had to do you like that. So I felt pretty annoyed at myself for joining because I knew that this was bullshit. But I had a couple of women give me the whole, don't you feel you deserve this lecture? And why are you always working so hard for your money while the rest of us are getting it so easily? What is your block to manifestation and abundance, queen?

• 25:58Speaker 05

  Queen.

• 26:00Laci Mosley?

  If money was this easy to make, we would all be making it.

• 26:03Speaker 05

  Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

• 26:04Laci Mosley?

  If it was as easy as getting on Facebook.

• 26:07Speaker 05

  Mm-hmm.

• 26:07Laci Mosley?

  And, and opening your geometry textbook and becoming a rhombus, we would all do it.

• 26:12Speaker 05

  It's true.

• 26:13Laci Mosley?

  And you know, if, if the math ain't mathin', there's a reason the math is not mathin'. So yeah, after finally resisting for so long, I surrendered. I worked my ass off, had a great circle of women, and was in the position to deserve very quickly. But like I said, everyone had spread out their resources too far. I eventually stopped and bowed out gracefully. And I have no idea what happened to the circle after that. I was there for about six months, leading a one-hour phone call once a week. All in all, I wasn't too traumatized, but I just thought you would enjoy this very new age cloaking of a very classic pyramid scheme. Um.

• 26:43Speaker 05

  What happened to the 10K? Did you give it back to your friend? Is this a scam? There's scams within this scam, Clancy.

• 26:51Laci Mosley?

  Clancy, you have left out so many pertinent details there. I feel like I'm being scammed. We don't know where your friend's donation of the 10K went. To you? To the circle? When you started your circle, did they give you any coins? Who was on your one-hour phone calls? What were you talking about? I have so many questions.

• 27:13Speaker 05

  And who's the parent company? Like, who, like, who is the Lula Rich of all of this? You know, like, who's in charge here? Who's making the billions off of your 10K? I need to know.

• 27:24Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, who's the restaurant?

• 27:26Speaker 05

  Mm-hmm, that's right.

• 27:27Laci Mosley?

  Who's responsible for?

• 27:28Speaker 05

  Who's the Cheesecake Factory?

• 27:31Laci Mosley?

  Cause that's who I want to be in this whole scheme. I would like to be the Cheesecake Factory. We know that menu is big as hell. I, yeah, I mean, honestly, there's a lot of just rewording of old scams. So you know, they just it off, they give it a new haircut, and they put it back on Facebook. Uh, so we all know about that. Guys, if it was easy to make money, if it was that easy, everybody would be doing it. Also, if it's that easy to make money, people wouldn't tell you. When are people ever like, wow, I'm making money hand over fist. Would you like some? That's just not how Americans work.

• 28:05Speaker 05

  I know a girl who does like one who's like high up on one of those pyramid schemes, like has the white Mercedes and the whole thing. And her Instagram is truly my nightmare. Like her talking into her Instagram stories being like, hey, guys, here's my list of products for the month. And it is terrifying. And even if she's making a billion dollars, I still don't think I could do it. I don't think I would want to. It seems horrible.

• 28:30Laci Mosley?

  It does. I just can't imagine having to get up every day and turn on my front face and camera and lie to the internet for money.

• 28:36Speaker 05

  And have to put makeup on to do it.

• 28:38Laci Mosley?

  Oh.

• 28:39Speaker 05

  And to have to stand in front of my white Mercedes. Like it's just the whole thing.

• 28:43Laci Mosley?

  I don't want to do my eyebrows for robbery.

• 28:45Speaker 05

  And you're doing it to all your friends. That's the fucked up part is like you're getting your friends involved in this scheme so that you can make a little extra money and then they're getting screwed. Like it's a no.

• 28:58Laci Mosley?

  Right. And these people have to know where you live. And eventually you have to stop being invited to parties and shit. I would imagine like if you're the person peddling the wellness zoom call $10,000 circle, people are gonna stop inviting you to their baby showers and shit.

• 29:12Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 29:13Laci Mosley?

  Guys, if it seems too good to be true, if it's a shape, honestly, any shape related businesses, don't get involved. It's time for my favorite part of the show. I'm gonna regale Tracy with a famous con caper group of criminals. We'll just get her opinions all throughout. I want to make a note of top here. Almost the entirety of this story is drawn from William Brennan's intelligencer article, worst roommate ever. And just a content warning, there is some mentions of physical assault and at one point suicide. So I just want to put that up top, but we'll keep it as light as possible. You know, we don't like to get super dark over here. I also watched worst roommate ever on Netflix, which inspired me to hit up our researcher Kalen and see what we can dig up on this as well.

• 29:58Laci Mosley?

  Have you heard of first roommate?

• 29:59Speaker 05

  I've never heard of this.

• 30:01Laci Mosley?

  Such a funny title for what it is, which is just American titles of television shows now. Cause I was, I was thinking I was gonna watch and be like, oh, they'll be annoying. And I was like murder.

• 30:11Speaker 05

  Yeah. Is this where we're headed? I'm so scared.

• 30:14Laci Mosley?

  I feel like if, I don't think I would call somebody my worst roommate ever if they like murdered me. I feel like there has to be a bigger.

• 30:20Speaker 05

  The criminal I lived with.

• 30:22Laci Mosley?

  Right. I feel like that's that makes them sound annoying when they were like dangerous.

• 30:26Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 30:27Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. It's like, oh my God, my roommate used to get on my nerves. They murdered me. Like.

• 30:32Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 30:33Laci Mosley?

  Like.

• 30:36Laci Mosley?

  A little serious, a little more serious than we're making it out Netflix. Uh, and also William. But, okay, so to those who first met him, Jamison Bachman was an intelligent, educated and charming potential tenant. However, as soon as the first rent check was cashed, he would embark on a reign of terror against his victims with the ultimate goal of taking their homes from underneath them.

• 30:58Speaker 05

  Oh, gosh.

• 31:00Laci Mosley?

  Have you ever, uh, lived with a roommate that you didn't know beforehand, Tracy?

• 31:05Speaker 05

  Yeah, yes, I have.

• 31:08Laci Mosley?

  Was it like in college or where?

• 31:09Speaker 05

  It was right after college. I got an apartment with two friends and then it was right after college. So we were all constantly like doing things, moving out, moving back in. And so we had like a apartment of musical chairs. And so there were sometimes people who moved in that we did not know. But like they would be connected to someone somehow. I don't think we ever had any Craigslist type people.

• 31:29Laci Mosley?

  It was like a Facebook situation of like, oh, this friend knows this person and they're, yeah, and they need a place to live. Absolutely. And that's one of the things that I always like talk about when people speak about living wages in Los Angeles. I'm like, I just want to say this conceptually out loud so everyone can see, hear how insane it sounds. People will tell you to go online, find a stranger and share a home with them so that you can afford to live in a city. If I can't afford to live by myself on the wages that I'm being paid, then it is not a living wage.

• 32:04Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 32:04Laci Mosley?

  If I have to shack up with strangers.

• 32:08Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 32:09Laci Mosley?

  People I do not know in order to survive.

• 32:12Speaker 05

  That I found on the internet.

• 32:13Laci Mosley?

  That I found on the interwebs.

• 32:15Speaker 05

  Yeah, like not even people I met at a bar. I was like, hey, I'm looking for a roommate. I've spent 20 minutes with you. Just a complete hello, dear sir, madam.

• 32:24Laci Mosley?

  Right. If I have to go to Craig and his list and I ain't even met Craig, nobody's met Craig, don't know Craig. Don't know his list. If I have to go over to Craig's and find somebody to live with, then that's not a living wage. And it's insane that we've normalized that. Well, just get a room, just live with a stranger and hope they don't kill you. Come on, America. What?

• 32:47Speaker 05

  No.

• 32:48Laci Mosley?

  No, I understand having a roommate if we were in a situation where it was like, oh, we could get a bigger place or we could afford more space. But it's a necessity right now with the wages that people are being paid as minimum wage. And that's not okay. Um, it's wild that we accept that. So we're talking about Jameson Bachmann. Well, with a name like Jameson, we know he's gonna be up to some shenanigans. So we're starting with Alex Miller. Alex Miller, then thirty-one, first met the cereal squatter when she posted a listing on Craigslist for a new roommate. Her previous roommate had left with little warning. And with a part-time juice bar salary in Philadelphia, she was desperate to find someone who would fill the room.

• 33:31Laci Mosley?

  Damn, yeah, she working at a juice bar in Philly? Do they like juice in Philly?

• 33:34Speaker 05

  I guess they do. Enough for Alex to get to get a roommate.

• 33:40Laci Mosley?

  Right, not enough.

• 33:41Speaker 05

  Not that much. I guess not that much.

• 33:43Laci Mosley?

  Clearly not enough. Uh, so the man who called her identified himself as Jed Creek. That don't even sound like a real name. That sounds like one of them names where you look around for stuff that's in your eye line.

• 33:57Laci Mosley?

  What's your name? Uh, Paperclip TV Screen?

• 34:01Speaker 05

  Oh, my gosh.

• 34:01Laci Mosley?

  So this is, we're looking at Jameson right here. He looks to be a tall, white man with a full head of hair, which I've said several times on this podcast, equals charismatic. Um, yeah, so this is Jed Creek. He's a lawyer from New York who was in need of a place to stay while he tended to his ailing mother and brother in Philadelphia. So a whole backstory.

• 34:23Speaker 05

  Wow, he's got an ailing mother and brother. He's a lawyer, but he needs to live with you? He's a lawyer in New York City and he needs to live with you? Like, mm, already doesn't add up.

• 34:34Laci Mosley?

  Exactly. And guys, we always say this on this podcast, if it's too good to be true, it is. Why is this lawyer man who lives in New York City, where the cost of living is definitely higher than Philadelphia, need to live with you, Alex?

• 34:48Speaker 05

  Why doesn't he live with his mother and brother?

• 34:51Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, especially because they're ailing. It feels like if he needs to tend to their ailments, it's probably better that he's like under the same roof.

• 34:58Speaker 05

  Yeah, because they're not just ailing nine to five. Like, I'm sure they're ailing at six o'clock. Like, I feel like he needs to be there.

• 35:04Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, I feel like he would need to be there for all the ailments. You're right about that. Like, I feel like you can't clock in on ailments. Like, I feel like you gotta be there around the, around the clock.

• 35:11Speaker 05

  Around the clock ailments.

• 35:12Laci Mosley?

  That's a good point. He's like, no, I just tend to the ailments from nine to five. Yeah. And that's it. She fall after that. That's none of my business.

• 35:18Speaker 05

  I'll see her in the morning.

• 35:20Laci Mosley?

  Don't roll over. Like, what? So he said he supplemented his income by doing litigation and tutoring students online. So in addition to doing lawyer, lawyering, he was also doing litigations and teaching online. Sure. So he's a lawyer with several side hustles.

• 35:39Speaker 05

  Yes. Good sign.

• 35:41Laci Mosley?

  Because you know how you be having free time for side hustles. Like, I'm a lawyer and I also drive for Uber. Like, you know, I read the affidavits at the red lights. What?

• 35:51Laci Mosley?

  So to Alex, he seemed like the perfect solution to her problem. And though she was surprised when he offered to move in immediately with check in hand, she agreed. And you should not have agreed, Alex. Because why, now, listen, with living situations, things do get desperate. I do understand the time is absolutely of the essence when moving, but why is this person not wanting to assess who you are? Why is this person also willing to move? Put your, always put yourself in the shoes of the opposite person as well. What are they getting out of it? And if you can't think of something that they're getting out of it, the chances are is that they're getting over on you.

• 36:27Speaker 05

  On you.

• 36:28Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. Because I'm never, I've never went and looked at a place or met somebody on Craigslist and was like, great, check in hand.

• 36:35Speaker 05

  Yeah, I mean, I, I feel like I at least am like, I'd like to come back to the neighborhood at night and see if it feels safe, you know? Like, I'm, I'm like, I need six days to sleep on this at least. Like, I couldn't possibly make a decision and have actual money on me available, ready to go, unless it's the application fee. Otherwise, like, I need to come back. Love to see how the sun hits the windows at the east, you know? Like, I need to get a vibe check.

• 37:02Laci Mosley?

  I need a vibe check. I definitely want to check and see if you have mail that's going to the corresponding address with your name on it. I need to make sure you're not scamming me. I'm most certainly not showing up with my check from Wells and the Fargo. Like, get it up, let's move in. So when he showed up later that night.

• 37:20Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 37:22Speaker 05

  I'm so scared.

• 37:24Laci Mosley?

  He brought only Tupperware bins and his dog, as well as a cat he had not previously mentioned. So he showed up to the crib with some bins and an extra animal. So many flags.

• 37:37Speaker 05

  Could you imagine?

• 37:39Laci Mosley?

  For a bed, he dumped a heap of comforters on the floor. Now, remember, this man practices the law. He's here to visit all of his ailing relatives.

• 37:49Speaker 05

  He's here taking care of others, so he only has a comforter for his bed because he's selfless, Lacey.

• 37:54Laci Mosley?

  He has no bed, though.

• 37:57Speaker 05

  Because he has given everything to his loved ones, and all he has is a simple comforter.

• 38:02Laci Mosley?

  Now, when I watched Netflix documentary, Alex was there giving her accounts, and she said that she asked about the pallet that he put on the floor, and he said, "It's more comfortable to sleep this way."

• 38:18Laci Mosley?

  I just feel like if you can't afford a bed, you can't afford rent.

• 38:24Laci Mosley?

  Now, there are circumstances where when people first move into a place, maybe they have an air mattress or they're building up, but I just feel like I'm not going to let anybody move in with me. Who does not have a bed?

• 38:35Speaker 05

  I kind of want to know how much rent was.

• 38:38Laci Mosley?

  I do, too.

• 38:39Speaker 05

  Like, was he paying, like, did he write her a check for, like, sixteen, oh, boom, eight hundred dollars?

• 38:45Laci Mosley?

  Eight hundred dollars.

• 38:46Speaker 05

  So they're sharing a place. So let's say sixteen hundred dollars for two bedroom. Feels like maybe he could do seven hundred dollars and invest in a bed, low payment plan. I just, I'm confused, I'm just confused. I mean, I guess, you know, we know, he's scamming. There's no, this makes no sense.

• 39:06Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, I'm like, I feel like you can get a bet on Walmart dot com for definitely like a hundred bucks. So I'm not, I'm, I'm very confusionist to why this man does not own a place to lay his head. So the check cleared the next day for the eight hundred dollars and for the next few days, things went well. Then after only eleven days of living together, the arrangement started to decline when Jed, who was really Jamison, refused to pay his half of the utility bills. When Alex pressed, he offered to take her to court.

• 39:34Speaker 05

  So what?

• 39:35Laci Mosley?

  What? He offered to take her to court.

• 39:38Speaker 05

  Ma'am, your chariot awaits. Shall we head down to the old Superior Court?

• 39:44Laci Mosley?

  Yo, I'm driving Uber actually. I'm outside. I'll wait five minutes for court. That's where we're going. Um, after that, I gotta start the ride. What?

• 39:52Speaker 05

  I thought you were gonna say he offered to take her to dinner and it was a plot twist with court.

• 39:57Laci Mosley?

  Right. I just feel you don't offer to take, like, that sounds so polite. Like, would you like to go to court? No, I'm not paying the bills. But if you would like to go to court, let me know. I'm offering back. Uh, I'm offering legal hands. Would you like to fight legally?

• 40:10Speaker 05

  And I'm a lawyer. Don't forget.

• 40:13Laci Mosley?

  So I know all the laws, even, even the ones they don't tell you about. Like, so definitely intimidating. So after this incident, stranger things began to follow. I can't imagine anything stranger than, uh, I'm like, hey, the light bill. The light bill came in and he's like, no, you wanna go to court? So one evening, Alex discovered that Jed had taken light bulbs from the living room lights to screw into his bedroom lamps. A few days later, she came home to discover all six chairs at the dining table had disappeared, only to find them in Jed's room fashioned into a desk.

• 40:47Speaker 05

  I heard it say to a bed.

• 40:51Laci Mosley?

  It should have been a bed. He should have.

• 40:54Speaker 05

  She split all the chairs together and then laid in between.

• 40:58Laci Mosley?

  Right. He's laying in between the chairs. That's what I would have imagined too. But he fashioned it into a desk, you know, for his lawyer work. You know how desks work. Which is fascinating to me because it's like, why don't you just come out into the kitchen and work from the table?

• 41:09Speaker 05

  Or go to a coffee shop.

• 41:11Laci Mosley?

  Like normal people who don't have desks.

• 41:14Speaker 05

  Exactly. Like the rest of us.

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• 43:18Laci Mosley?

  So the last straw, which I can't believe all these other straws weren't the last straw, but okay, sis. So the last straw for Alex occurred when Jamison said that he found a cigarette butt in the toilet and then said he would not be paying next month's rents as Alex had violated the warranty of...

• 43:37Laci Mosley?

  Habitability. So basically, Jameson is saying, I found a cigarette butt in the toilet. You're not supposed to be smoking in here. I'm not paying rent.

• 43:46Speaker 05

  I can't live in these conditions. My bed and my desk could be ruined.

• 43:51Laci Mosley?

  Right. My bed desk, that's also chairs, could be destroyed.

• 43:56Speaker 05

  That are yours.

• 43:57Laci Mosley?

  That are yours. That I stole from you, as well as all of my, uh, light bulbs. So with limited options and no idea what to do next, Alex called her mother. When Alex's mother began her own investigation into Jed Creek, they discovered that Jed Creek was in fact Jamison Bachman and Alex Miller was not his first victim. So who was Jamison Bachman? Jamison Bachman came from a nice home in Elkins Park, an older, wealthier neighborhood in Philadelphia. His father owned a construction company, his mother stayed at home, and his older brother, Henry, was considered the golden child. Oh, so Jameson grew up in somebody's shadow.

• 44:34Laci Mosley?

  And so Jameson grew up doted on by parents, but inwardly was fiercely determined to surpass his brother. However, Jameson's life was changed when he witnessed a horrific incident during his freshman year at Tulane University in 1975. He witnessed the murder of a friend, Ken Goozy, at a frat house. Oh, no. So when Jameson returned home that summer, he was especially paranoid and would go on endless rants about the rising tide of antisemitism. He spent the summer depressed and distraught before nearly completely dropping off the map in the fall. During that time, he allegedly went abroad, living in Israel, and later studying Japanese at the Leyden University in the Netherlands. At the age 38, Jameson completed his bachelor's degree at Georgetown.

• 45:16Laci Mosley?

  Seven years later, he completed his doctorate degree at the University of Miami, where professors called him a remarkably talented student. He failed to legitimize his law career, and then in 2003, he failed the bar exam on his first try and never went back. So he's never been a lawyer.

• 45:31Speaker 05

  He went to law school, but he didn't become a lawyer.

• 45:34Laci Mosley?

  He was like adjacent to law. He's in the cul-de-sac of law. He lived three doors down from Esquire, but...

• 45:42Speaker 05

  Well, I think he's Esquire, but I don't think that he's a law... I think Esquire just means you graduate law school, right?

• 45:47Laci Mosley?

  Oh, I thought you had to like pass the bar and be a lawyer.

• 45:50Speaker 05

  Honestly, I don't know. I just, that's what I thought. I don't have any facts.

• 45:54Laci Mosley?

  Somebody look that up for us.

• 45:55Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 45:56Laci Mosley?

  But...

• 45:56Speaker 05

  Google it.

• 45:58Laci Mosley?

  So he, he had the vibes of law. He went and studied the law and then decided that he was not actually gonna become a lawyer. So in the United States, esquire is often shortened and it's a title of courtesy given to a lawyer and commonly appended to their surname. So you do have to be a lawyer, so you need to pass the bar. And yeah, be a agent of the law, which uh, Mr.

• 46:21Speaker 05

  Old Bachman.

• 46:23Laci Mosley?

  Old Bachman was not. He was familiar with the law, it was his homie, it was like, you know, they had mutuals, him and the law, but he was not practicing it. So in 2012, Jamison targeted a woman named Melissa Frost, claiming to be a New Yorker whose home had been destroyed in Hurricane Sandy. So this is Melissa, okay with these painting overalls. Melissa's giving artsy vibes.

• 46:44Speaker 05

  She's giving a style icon. Look at her, her little bob.

• 46:47Laci Mosley?

  I'm into it. Yeah, Melissa has a roommate. So Melissa was overcome with pity and offered him a room, uh, because he said Hurricane Sandy washed all my things away and um, I'm in New York and I'm a lawyer and help me out. So the problem began slowly, as they normally did. He scuffed up the floors, he kicked down doors. That's not a slow problem. I feel like if you're kicking down doors, that's a big problem. He clogged the toilets with cat litter.

• 47:12Speaker 05

  What?

• 47:14Laci Mosley?

  This man is a menace.

• 47:16Speaker 05

  This is my nightmare.

• 47:20Speaker 05

  He came with Tupperware and an extra cat and he's getting kitty litter in the toilet? And you're worried about his cigarette butt? My guy. Where are the standards?

• 47:30Laci Mosley?

  Couldn't you just be an annoying, normal roommate who, you know, eats somebody's leftovers? Or doesn't wash dishes? Why are you putting litter in my toilet and, and kicking down my doors?

• 47:42Speaker 05

  Scratching my floors also.

• 47:44Laci Mosley?

  This is wild. So over time, he became more aggressive and repeatedly and occasionally violently asserted, this is my house now. Oh no.

• 47:55Laci Mosley?

  So his ultimate goal was not just to secure rent free rooms, but to start a fight and have his roommate sue him. So not only was he trying to live for free, he was then trying to kick you out of your home.

• 48:07Speaker 05

  But what does he get if you sue him?

• 48:10Laci Mosley?

  I don't know what he gets.

• 48:11Speaker 05

  He gets to practice law, he gets to defend himself in the court?

• 48:14Laci Mosley?

  I think that. I think that litigation ties up the situation and makes it longer to process. So when you get into litigation with people, then that gives him even more time to squat, even more time to live rent free.

• 48:30Laci Mosley?

  So while squatting in Melissa's home, he told a reporter, "I'm happy to have her file an eviction notice. She files the filing fee and then I piggyback on the filing fee and hit her with a counterclaim. That's just tactics." So in practice, this rarely worked. When he stepped before Judge Marvin Williams in Philadelphia to accuse Melissa Frost of destroying his property, Judge Williams told him, "I find you to be totally incredible. I don't believe a word you say, and frankly, you're frightening." I love this judge.

• 48:59Speaker 05

  Frankly, you're frightening.

• 49:00Laci Mosley?

  He was like, "Your vibes are bad, you have the face of a liar, and I'm scared of you."

• 49:04Speaker 05

  And I'm auditioning to be the next Judge Judy.

• 49:07Laci Mosley?

  Right, it's giving a lot of shade.

• 49:08Speaker 05

  And frankly, you're frightening.

• 49:11Laci Mosley?

  And then the judge throws a drink from the bench. I don't think he's supposed to be throwing drinks at us. This is the audition.

• 49:18Speaker 05

  Real Judges of Philadelphia.

• 49:20Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, I would watch Real Judges of Philadelphia.

• 49:22Speaker 05

  In a heartbeat.

• 49:23Laci Mosley?

  Real Judges of Philly is giving, for sure. Order.

• 49:28Speaker 05

  Guilty, I said guilty.

• 49:33Laci Mosley?

  You may not be guilty, but that outfit is purr, ooh. Get him, Judge!

• 49:38Speaker 05

  Oh my gosh.

• 49:40Laci Mosley?

  And that's an order, and then, yeah, no, I love it, I love it. Case closed, bitch. Yes, I'm into it, I want this on my television screen.

• 49:49Speaker 05

  Same.

• 49:51Laci Mosley?

  So in such cases, Jameson would disappear before the case reached final judgment, only to move on to his next victim. Jameson wasn't a normal squatter in that he wasn't particularly occupied with the ultimate goal of free rent. Instead, he seemed to target and hang on to his victims out of the pleasure of causing anguish. That he, what?

• 50:10Speaker 05

  Whoa.

• 50:11Laci Mosley?

  He, so he would take these people on and cause as much misery as possible. His roommates could never do anything to satisfy him because he wanted nothing from him, but the sadistic pleasure of watching them squirm as he displaced them.

• 50:26Speaker 05

  No.

• 50:27Laci Mosley?

  Oh, this man is a sicko.

• 50:30Speaker 05

  That's really fucking scary.

• 50:32Laci Mosley?

  Oh, because there's literally nothing worse than having an opponent who is chaotic and has no kind of Achilles heel, like nothing that they want, nothing that you can use to manipulate or motivate them.

• 50:45Speaker 05

  Because like also think about their friends or their family, like they call and Melissa's like, Mom, what should I do? And the mom's like giving her advice, like, okay, take the high road or like, okay, we need to take him to court, blah, blah, blah. And like the whole point is he's just sitting there listening to her cry on the phone to her mom. Like, nothing that anyone says is gonna help because the whole point is that he's miserable or that they're miserable.

• 51:09Laci Mosley?

  Like cruelty is the point. He's like, I want to go to court. Sue me. Yeah. You know, we should have known when he was inviting people to court.

• 51:18Speaker 05

  Offer.

• 51:18Laci Mosley?

  Offer.

• 51:19Speaker 05

  You like to go to court with me?

• 51:21Laci Mosley?

  He likes to go there. No, you don't want somebody who just likes chaos. So the end of his squatting career was like May 1st, a little over a month from when Jamison moved in to Alex's place. By this point, Alex and Susan, who is Alex's mother, had been in touch with Melissa Frost, who was one of the previous victims, who he was like scuffing up her floors and putting kitty litter in her toilet. They found other victims of Jamison's and they had a fuller idea of his past. That night, they held a really wild party. Alex described on Facebook as a send off for the serial squatter, Jamison Bachman. The following morning, Alex believed Jamison had left earlier that night. However, he attacked her while she was brushing her teeth. Oh, no. Leading Alex to being cut with a knife and hiding

• 52:05Laci Mosley?

  in her room until police arrived and arrested Jamison. Jamison was charged with aggravated assault and sent to jail and Alex obtained a protection order. So I just want to say that something that I don't see here is that Jamison got away with a lot of this because people have squatters rights. So before you allow somebody to move into your place, you need to vet them because as soon as they start getting mail, because that was Jameson's big thing that I don't see in these notes is that he would like move in and immediately have Sam Goodie or Amazon, Kentucky TV, or whoever sending mail to the address so that he could prove that he was a resident. That way, when he stopped paying rent and utilities and started sending out invitations

• 52:50Laci Mosley?

  to court, you couldn't just boot him out because technically he lived there. So now he has rights.

• 52:56Speaker 05

  Wow. But, okay, so here's my question. Are there no, there's no protection for the person whose name's on the lease? Once you let someone in, like, so like if your, if your significant other moves in with you and like jumps on your lease and then you guys break up, they can just stay and you can't get them out?

• 53:16Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, if they jump on your lease especially, but if-

• 53:19Speaker 05

  No, not if they jump on their lease. No, you stay on the lease, but they just jump in like to the apartment?

• 53:24Laci Mosley?

  If they've been staying there long enough, if they're receiving mail, then yeah, they are afforded some protections. You can't just boot people out onto the street, which is why it's dangerous to take on a roommate without doing the proper vetting process, without getting your landlord involved, which I know some people don't want to do, or having them sign onto the lease. Because sometimes when you're looking for a roommate, you're just like, do you have the money? I don't care if your credit's bad. And maybe their credit's not good enough to get on your lease, so the landlord won't let them. And so, and you need money. You need somebody to split them bills. So a squatter can claim rights to property after residing there for a certain time. In California, it takes five years of continuous use or maintenance for a squatter to make an adverse possession or claim. When a squatter claims adverse possession, they can gain ownership of the

• 54:07Laci Mosley?

  property legally. So basically, the squatter just reverses it and they claim your property. So it takes time to claim the property, but you certainly can get protections for not being able to boot somebody out immediately.

• 54:19Speaker 05

  So did all of these women own their, the property that he was moving into? Or were they also rent, were they renting?

• 54:26Laci Mosley?

  Some of them were renters. Some of them were, like, I believe Alex lived in the place with- Her former partner, the partner moved out, but it was like she had purchased the place. So she was trying to pay a mortgage.

• 54:36Speaker 05

  I see.

• 54:37Laci Mosley?

  And she wanted it to be her forever home. So that's why she was trying to get somebody to help pay that mortgage. So that she could continue living there. And something else that I don't see here is that Alex at one point had a roommate, another roommate. Like in addition to Jameson, move in and was living in a tent in the living room.

• 54:56Speaker 05

  Alex.

• 54:57Laci Mosley?

  Alex, you couldn't afford this place.

• 54:59Speaker 05

  Alex, we gotta get your standards up, girl. You could, or you could have just sold the spot. Downgrade or rent in a luxury building in Philly. Get right on that Rittenhouse Square, girl. Like, what are you doing?

• 55:09Laci Mosley?

  Baby girl, Alex, you couldn't afford this place. If you had to have another person move in, a third person and they were living in a-

• 55:15Speaker 05

  Without a bed. Another person without a bed. Alex.

• 55:18Laci Mosley?

  Alex, and this person is a tent in a living room. At this point, you've even opened up a halfway house. This ain't even your home no more. Like, what's going on? And then Jameson like had harassed the person with the tent, was going in their little tent. Messing with their things and stuff to the point where the tent person moved out was like, I'm gonna have to pack it up.

• 55:37Speaker 05

  You know, it's unlivable conditions if the person in the tent in the living room is like, I can't do this.

• 55:43Laci Mosley?

  Like, I don't know how you live like this.

• 55:45Speaker 05

  This is horrible.

• 55:46Laci Mosley?

  No, I'm gonna be packing up my John Deere tent this evening. I'm out. Yeah, that's how you know it's bad. So arrest and trial. Alex and her mother began cleaning Jameson's room and found a cleaning kit with a uh gun, a thirty eight caliber pistol. It was a cleaning kit, but no gun. So they found bullets and a cleaning kit, but not the actual gun. Curious where the weapon is. On June seventeenth, Harry, Jameson's brother, bailed him out of jail. And though Alex and the mother continued to search, they still not found the gun. A few weeks later, Alex and Jameson met under police supervision to exchange his belongings, but the encounter ended in Jameson threatening Alex, which led to rearrest. Hey, go threaten somebody in front of the police. This feels like not a good place. I feel like you don't do your threats.

• 56:25Speaker 05

  Yeah, it's just, you know, not mixed company.

• 56:28Laci Mosley?

  Right. Like, the law is right there. Jameson's chill.

• 56:31Speaker 05

  For this exact reason.

• 56:33Laci Mosley?

  Right. They're here to, he was like, I don't care. They can't protect you.

• 56:36Speaker 05

  It's not like you're like at the donut shop and the cops are just hanging out, like they're off duty. It's like, hello, I'm here to mitigate the situation.

• 56:43Laci Mosley?

  They came to prevent you from doing this. And yet here you are.

• 56:46Speaker 05

  Honestly, this is why cops never do their fucking job. They let him get the threat off.

• 56:51Laci Mosley?

  Right. Like, hello, y'all supposed to interrupt the threat. They're like, no, we actually can't do anything until he finishes the whole threat. And then we'll step in. Wow. Thank you, police. So on October 28th, Harry, who is Jameson's brother, who he was always in the shadow of, bailed him out a second time, but did not allow his brother to live with him. He was like, all right, I'm gonna bail you out. We're brothers, but like, you cannot come stay with me. You are chaos. Shortly before 7 o'clock November 3rd, Harry had stopped on his way out of town to see Jameson in his driveway. Harry had been scheduled to arrive in upstate New York later that night, but he never made it. Harry's wife Carolyn called the police, uh, who arrived at Harry's house and discovered that Harry had been murdered by his brother. He had been beaten and dragged into the basement. That night, police arrested Jameson at a hotel down the road,

• 57:34Laci Mosley?

  that he had checked into under his brother's name. Uh, wow.

• 57:38Speaker 05

  That makes very little sense.

• 57:39Laci Mosley?

  So Bachman's preliminary hearing was set for the morning of December 11th. It was canceled the morning of, as a few days earlier, Jamison Bachman, um, had decided to take his own life, uh, at the prison. Alex Miller moved in with her childhood friend and has found a much better living situation since. Yeah, Alex.

• 57:55Speaker 05

  She's found a much better living situation than living with a murderer.

• 57:59Laci Mosley?

  Than being held hostage by a-

• 58:01Speaker 05

  Having a tent in her living room, living with a murderer and being slashed by him. Well, you know what? I'm glad that you found your way and I feel like she probably joined the circle and is doing a lot of wellness abundance with her girls.

• 58:13Laci Mosley?

  Alex, go ahead and manifest those shapes and those squares. Alex, I'm so sorry that you were held hostage by a petty, uh, murderer. But this is just a warning. One, a lot of the victims of Jameson were women. I don't recommend if you're a cisgendered woman, living with a cisgendered man that you've never met off of the internet.

• 58:34Speaker 05

  Or if you're a trans woman or non-binary.

• 58:36Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 58:36Speaker 05

  Honestly, anyone who's not a cisgender man, probably shouldn't live with a cisgender stranger.

• 58:42Laci Mosley?

  That's, that's actually what I mean. If you identify as a woman, you should probably not live with a cisgendered man that you found on the internet. And it's time for Scammer of the Week. That's where we highlight and honor a charlatan. Maybe we love her, maybe we hate her, we'll see. Today, we're talking about an 81-year-old woman from Kirkwood, Missouri, who was sentenced in court after pleading guilty to helping a Nigerian scam artist with whom she had fallen in love with.

• 59:04Speaker 05

  Always.

• 59:06Speaker 05

  Always in love.

• 59:07Laci Mosley?

  Glenda same. Aw, Glenda. Aw, Glenda the good witch. She was found guilty of two felony counts of identity theft from her participation as a money mule for her boo. A money mule is a person who receives fraudently attained money on behalf of a scammer and then forwards the proceeds to the scammer. Aw, Glenda.

• 59:27Speaker 05

  Glenda, you made some bad choices, my dear.

• 59:29Laci Mosley?

  Glenda got a good haircut and it looks like it's blown out. Like, her hair looks shiny. Glenda definitely goes to the hair salon once a week.

• 59:35Speaker 05

  Once a week.

• 59:38Laci Mosley?

  Glenda, your grandkids do not call you enough, because how dare they let you get involved in this? It's not cool. How y'all gonna do Granny Glenda like this? Y'all are wrong. I blame the grandchildren.

• 59:49Speaker 05

  Always. It's always the grandchildren's fault.

• 59:52Laci Mosley?

  She was responsible for up to 1.5 million in fraudulent transactions.

• 59:57Speaker 05

  Oh, so Glenda was, she was turning. She was moving. Yes, Glenda.

• 1:00:03Laci Mosley?

  Granny Glenda was out here moving, moving the coins, okay? As a part of her sentencing deal, Glenda agreed to film a PSA for the FBI, warning others against becoming the victim of a scam. So Granny Glenda had to get out here like, "In the arms of a scammer, wire fraud is here. They got me Granny Glenda." I could keep going on. Yeah, poor Granny Glenda. She just wanted some love. She just wanted some, some-

• 1:00:37Speaker 05

  She wanted some good dick.

• 1:00:38Laci Mosley?

  Right, she just wanted a worldly dickin'.

• 1:00:43Laci Mosley?

  In her old age. Yeah, I hate to see it for her. I hate to see this. Um, so in it, she describes how she fell in love with a man over the internet and then proceeded to ignore friends, family, and even the F to be in the eye, who told her to stop sending the man money. Glenda met the man in 2014 and over the course of almost seven years, he would ask for Glenda's help in paying fees to the Nigerian government or to business associates. He couldn't leave Nigeria and claimed he was finally meet his love when all the fees were paid. He said, baby, when I, when you pay these fees? The dick.

• 1:01:18Speaker 05

  Mm-hmm. I'm coming. Here, here I come.

• 1:01:21Laci Mosley?

  When I like, just, just pay these last transaction fees to TD Bank.

• 1:01:25Speaker 05

  Just pay this 1.5 mil and I'll be there.

• 1:01:28Laci Mosley?

  And when I tell you rounds.

• 1:01:31Speaker 05

  Yeah, all night. You familiar with that old Lionel Richie song, All Night Long? That's you and me, Glenn. Oh, Glennie.

• 1:01:39Laci Mosley?

  I'mma take you to the sock hop, Glenda. You ain't even ready, okay? It's gonna be.

• 1:01:44Speaker 05

  I'll show you a bad witch, okay, Glenda?

• 1:01:48Laci Mosley?

  You ain't had dick this good since Coca-Cola was 10 cents.

• 1:01:52Speaker 05

  And had actual cocaine in it.

• 1:01:58Laci Mosley?

  Nah, he was about to give you that 1950s freaking, oh, Lord. He said, this dick so good, it should be illegal. Loving versus Virginia. Ew, I know you remember that.

• 1:02:12Laci Mosley?

  No, no, no, no. Um, wait, can we see a little bit of this PSA before we go? And I'll put this on the Instagram. I just wanna see what Granny Glenda was talking about. Um, what she was warning the other, um, hot girls in the elderly community. Let's see here.

• 1:02:27Speaker 13

  In 2014, I met the love of my life online and he told me that he was a US citizen and was working in Nigeria. He asked me.

• 1:02:37Laci Mosley?

  Oh, no, Glenda. Glenda getting out cash.

• 1:02:41Speaker 05

  Forty-five bucks.

• 1:02:42Laci Mosley?

  Glenda got out forty-five dollars on the computer. Glenda, you can't send cash to the computer.

• 1:02:49Laci Mosley?

  Glenda is whipping out helophones. Oh Glenda. Oh no, y'all, y'all gotta see this video. Everybody was hating on her love.

• 1:03:00Speaker 05

  Over five years.

• 1:03:01Laci Mosley?

  Five years. Glenda. If you was getting texts that were that good. Don't be a mule. Okay, no, it ended with hashtag, don't be a mule.

• 1:03:11Speaker 05

  I can't wait to go look at that hashtag as soon as we're done here.

• 1:03:14Laci Mosley?

  Glenda, this is disrespectful. The FBI, the FBI and I didn't have to disrespect you like this. Hashtag, don't be a mule.

• 1:03:20Speaker 05

  Okay, I have to say something. As a person who has a lot of beliefs about the funding and defunding of the police. I feel that if I met Glenda, she would probably tell me why we need to fund the police so much. But the police come to her and they're like, you're breaking the law. And she's like, no. I'm in love. I'm in love. You don't, you don't want to listen to the police then, but you want me to listen to the fucking police when I'm out here trying to protest.

• 1:03:44Laci Mosley?

  Right.

• 1:03:45Speaker 05

  It's like all of a sudden, the police is wrong and now.

• 1:03:49Laci Mosley?

  Glenda, Glenda. Textual messages?

• 1:03:53Speaker 05

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:03:54Laci Mosley?

  You went to court.

• 1:03:55Speaker 05

  Not seen or spoken to.

• 1:03:56Laci Mosley?

  You went to court twice. You have not seen this man. You are just imagining how fine he is. What kind of poems and limericks was this man sending you? That's got you putting forty-five dollars next to your computer and, and, and four, five different cell phones that are stolen.

• 1:04:10Speaker 05

  And what's going on? Where's her bingo community? Where are her people? Like, you don't know anybody you could hang out with who will talk to you or see you? Just companionship. Like, because this is just via text and email exchange? Like, what's happening?

• 1:04:26Laci Mosley?

  Glenda, I'm also blaming your hairstylist. Who at Great Clips is responsible for this? Because I know you told them about this relationship every week when you was getting your, your wash and cut. And, and, and nobody stopped you.

• 1:04:37Speaker 05

  My love.

• 1:04:39Laci Mosley?

  My love. What is his name, Glenda? Did he tell you his name?

• 1:04:43Speaker 05

  Glenda. I can't wait to hear what it was.

• 1:04:45Laci Mosley?

  Glenda. I.

• 1:04:49Laci Mosley?

  I'mma stand beside you, Glenda. This is hilarious.

• 1:04:53Speaker 05

  Glenda, we're proud of you for all of you've done, for the way you fought for love through it all, through thick and thin.

• 1:05:00Laci Mosley?

  Glenda, I need you to get on seniors.com, sunrise.com, whatever Cialis brand apps they got out there for, for the old hot girls who need the cobwebs dusted off because I want that for you, Glenda. This is, this is not you going out down sad and bad. I don't like that for you. Guys, that brings us to the end of another episode. Tracy, thank you so much for being here. Tracy, you're fantastic. Where do you like to be found? Where do you want the people to find you?

• 1:05:27Speaker 05

  Um, so I talk about books all the time. So please find my podcast where I talk about books. Uh, it's called The Stacks. Anywhere you listen to podcasts, wherever you're listening now. And then you can find me on Instagram at the Stacks Pod where I talk even more about books. And on Twitter, you can find just me, no books, at ByTracyL. Uh, so yeah, that's it.

• 1:05:46Laci Mosley?

  ByTracyL, I love it. And just me, no books. Just me, no books. Yes. Uh, and guys, as always, [email protected]. Snitch on your friends and family, guys. I want to hear these scam stories. Just make sure the scam's retired so we don't fuck up your bag. If you want to find me, D I V A L A C I diva Lacey on all platforms. New episodes of iCarly will start streaming April 8th, if you are into that. Uh, yeah, I think that's all I got right now, guys. Uh, congregation, stay Schemin. Scam Goddess stars and is hosted by me, Lacey Mosley, AKA Scam Goddess. It's produced by Judith Kargbo, engineered by Marina Paez, and researched by Kaelyn Brandt. Stay Schemin.

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