Fraud Friday: The Real Hustlers behind Hustlers w/ Mo Heart

In this week's Fraud Friday, Laci is joined by Mo Heart (RuPaul's Drag Race) to help us break down the real-life story that inspired the 2019 hit film Hustlers starring Jennifer Lopez and Constance Wu. Plus, a Florida man faces 104 felony counts after allegedly using 28 people’s personal information to purchase expensive items in area stores. (Originally Released 06/21/2021) CON-gregation, catch Laci's TV Show, Scam Goddess, now on Freeform and Hulu! Follow on Instagram: Scam Goddess Pod: @scamgoddesspod Laci Mosley: @divalaci Mo Heart: @iammoheart Research by Kaelyn Brandt SOURCES: https://time.com/5671735/hustlers-movie-true-story/ https://www.thecut.com/2015/12/hustlers-the-real-story-behind-the-movie.html https://abcnews.go.com/US/real-life-hustlers-lured-men-nyc-strip-clubs/story?id=65499900 https://www.mysuncoast.com/2021/06/02/manatee-man-facing-felonies-fraud-investigation/

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• 2:01Laci Mosley?

  What's poppin', congregation? It's your girl, Lacey Mosley, AKA Scam Goddess. Welcome to an episode of Fraud Fridays, where we release older episodes from the Scam Goddess Vault. That's right, Fraud Fridays is where we bring back your favorite episodes from behind the paywall. Enjoy this episode from behind the paywall, and as always, stay schemin'.

• 2:43Laci Mosley?

  What's poppin', congregation? It's your girl, Scam Goddess, AKA Lacey Mosley, and we're back for another installment of what? Scam Goddess. Guys, if you're not watching at Carly, um, please tune in. Help us get her coins, okay? Paramount Plus, get Paramount Plus, stop playing with me, okay? And guys, I'm super what? Yes, excited. I know y'all said it with me. I love y'all. We friends, right? I love y'all. Guys, I'm super excited. I always am excited. We get the best guests on the show, bro. I got another RuPaul's Drag Race alum. Can you believe it? What a scam. We've had Trixie Mattel. We've had a bunch of RuPaul's Drag Race, like, icons. And so I'm into it. I'm so excited.

• 3:25Laci Mosley?

  But you also know this person from their skincare line, Mo Beauty, which you can be purchasing on the webs, on the interwebs. Mo Beauty, guys, we're talking about Monique Hart. Monique Hart is in the building. I do my own Jamaican air horn.

• 3:42Speaker 05

  Is that what it is, the Jamaican air horn?

• 3:47Laci Mosley?

  Yes, so we do our own Jamaican air horn. And I wish that you guys could see Monique right now, because she's giving, like, this is a podcast that y'all getting through your ears, but just visualize a bad bitch. Just know, like, she's giving, like, this area that she's in, it's giving, you know, background, you know? The microphone, her eyes are giving, the lashes are giving, the face is giving, the, all these eyeshadows are giving, like, yes, I'm so excited. Yes, yes, yes.

• 4:11Speaker 05

  I'm just, uh, doing some makeup, because I have to send in some, uh, stuff for Miss Rihanna.

• 4:19Laci Mosley?

  Oh, my God. And she's savage.

• 4:25Speaker 05

  So, uh, they were like, do a, uh, Pride-inspired, like, you know?

• 4:31Laci Mosley?

  Yes!

• 4:32Speaker 05

  And so I had to dig deep, I had to dig deep because you know Rihanna doesn't have like pigment, like blues, pink, dah dah dah dah. She has a pigment palette, it's like shimmery, you know?

• 4:43Laci Mosley?

  Mm-hmm, she loves a shimmer.

• 4:44Speaker 05

  Yeah, she loves a shimmer, so I'm like, ooh, what can I, how can I do this? So I said, let's give him like a, a reverse kind of light, you know, ombre moment.

• 4:53Laci Mosley?

  I mean, well, your bone structure is doing all the work.

• 4:56Speaker 05

  Thank you! Thank you!

• 4:59Laci Mosley?

  Truly, the products will shine no matter what they are on your face. Yes! Oh my god, I love this, I'm so close to a Savage Fenty influencer. This is wonderful for me, because listen, I don't know when Rihanna's ever gonna listen, or, uh, release some music again, so you know what I'm gonna do? Listen to these lipstick tubes, I'm just, I'm gonna listen to this eyeshadow, I'm gonna listen to this highlighter.

• 5:21Speaker 05

  Baby, because she said, "Sing a song, go on a tour." I know, I'm gonna sit here and give y'all these quality cosmetics, these quality, the skincare is actually really good, I started using it, girl, it's, it's right, it is.

• 5:35Laci Mosley?

  It is? Okay, I haven't used that yet, I've used a lot of the makeup.

• 5:38Speaker 05

  Right, the cleanser is like really, really good, it's not like overly soapy, but it does like get in there, um, and then the fat boy toner, it's like big gel room, when it goes in it, it'll be like, woo!

• 5:52Laci Mosley?

  Rihanna, Rihanna, sponsor the show, honey, we love you! And you know what? Rihanna's makeup is one of the only celebrity makeups I've ever seen in a trailer, like, when I go to work at iCarly, they use Fenty in a mix of some other Makeup Forever and some other things on my face every single week, like, the, so the makeup girls, they said yes, they cosigned, because listen, Kim K's products, I've never seen a Kim K product in a makeup trailer. And, and then look, I, I don't know the one that says about the products.

• 6:24Speaker 05

  She knows her clientele.

• 6:26Laci Mosley?

  But you know what I have seen on set for Kim K, which I love? Kim K's Spanx, those scams.

• 6:31Speaker 05

  I was just about to say the Spanx girl.

• 6:33Laci Mosley?

  That's her ministry, that's her ministry.

• 6:37Speaker 05

  That is her ministry.

• 6:38Laci Mosley?

  Those are so good, I, I'm sorry y'all, but I got- Gotta stand by Kim K Spanx because she knows what she's doing.

• 6:44Speaker 05

  I wanna kinda get her.

• 6:47Laci Mosley?

  You should, cuz back in the day, she said that she used to tape two sets of Spanx together and do all this stuff and like dip it, cut it in the back.

• 6:55Speaker 05

  Which was really gagging. Can we talk about that for a minute? And when she came out and she was like, I'm using all of these shakers and whatnot, cuz she knows the girls was going to the doctor to get the body done. And you out here got the body done and you still wearing the shaker. She could've said, I'm only just bought the scam.

• 7:13Laci Mosley?

  And her scams are, they good, they good. Cuz she said, I learned how to cut it in the back, so I can have a backless dress but still have the Spanx up top. So she knows what she's doing with those, with those. Kim K sponsors too. I love scams. Anyway. But Monique, I have to ask you. What is your relationship with scams? Are you a scammer? Have you been scammed? Do you love scams? Do you hate them? We don't care. I just wanna know where you are on this.

• 7:37Speaker 05

  Um, I'm intrigued by them. I like to know what they are to stay abreast. And ahead of the bullshit, you know, like, um, the credit card game scam has been going on for a minute now. But you gotta be like careful, even when your server comes up with these new like phones and whatnot. Cuz while you didn't open your cell phone with your credit card right there, they didn't, blew, blew, took a little photo. You know what I mean? I was watching this thing on, was it Amazon Prime? And it was this black queer, um, actually now she is trans, excuse me. Uh, but she was just saying like back in the nineties, she knew like, uh, Mastercard, their numbers always started with this.

• 8:21Speaker 05

  And like American Express starts with that. So, so she knew how the, and I was like, you better get it. And they trying to over here and say that we slow. Anyway, um, yeah, I'm intrigued. I'm intrigued.

• 8:33Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, I and and that's where I lie too. I'm always intrigued. If it's a scam that doesn't hurt anybody, then I'm all for it. I'm like, do it. Capitalism is a scam. American government is a scam. So like, get involved. Do what you need to do to survive and do what you need to do to thrive.

• 8:49Speaker 05

  Just be a little smarter though. I just feel like sometimes people get a little too greedy. I'd be like, you had more than enough, okay?

• 8:57Laci Mosley?

  But see, that's the thing. It's not about the money for some scammers. Some scammers just love to scam. They get high on the con and then they can't stop. Some scammers like Jay-Z, they know when to cash out. Jay-Z always talk about selling crack and then he said, I don't sell crack no more. You know, now I sell title to the white man, you know? So you gotta, you gotta elevate, but.

• 9:17Speaker 05

  At least elevate the scam, but don't keep the same. You know what I mean?

• 9:21Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 9:21Speaker 05

  You're like, I love watching C S sad and all the crap that like the cop shows that maybe like it was the person they had like their little scam going for like a year. And it was year two and then blue, blue. You should have, you know, change it up. Six months, try something different. I'm not saying you should be scared, but I'm gonna say try something different.

• 9:37Laci Mosley?

  Listen, scamming is a profession. It's just like any other business. And if you wanna be in business, you always have to evolve. Look at what happened to Blockbuster with Netflix. If Blockbuster had been like, hey girls, we got an app, Blockbuster would still be in this bitch. But instead they were like, we gonna keep selling these tapes and these raisinettes in the store and didn't realize that times were changing and scams were changing. They should have scammed and elevated.

• 10:01Speaker 05

  Do you remember in the nineties where you had the credit card on like paper? It was like the credit card application on paper and it'd be like, apply for the gold card.

• 10:12Laci Mosley?

  Oh no, I don't remember that.

• 10:13Speaker 05

  Oh, we changed some go to, oh, okay, anyway.

• 10:15Laci Mosley?

  No, you are perfect. I just, in the nineties, I was, I was born in ninety one, so yeah.

• 10:22Speaker 05

  Oh, okay, nevermind.

• 10:25Laci Mosley?

  No, still, still, still, a lot of people, a lot of people were grown in the nineties or in their teens, like, please.

• 10:30Speaker 05

  So you had the like, it was like the card stop uh, application for like the master card, but it was like a gold credit card or platinum credit card. And you were supposed to cut it and then use that clear packing tape. And you had to layer it just right to kind of laminate it if you didn't have a laminator machine. But it was only just so you could just slam it down and be like, bitch, why? But you had to pick it up really quick because they could see that it said John Lee or something like that. Yeah girl.

• 11:00Laci Mosley?

  I love this for you. I love this so much. But guys, let's get into our first segment here. What's hot and fraud? This is where we warn the listeners about a scam that's popping in the zeitgeist. And more often than not, we read your letters. And as always, if you want to snitch on your friends and family, [email protected]. Just make sure your scam is retired because we don't want to what? Fuck up your bag, you know? So Monique, I need a fake name. I need a fake name for this scammer.

• 11:26Speaker 05

  A fake name? Let's go. The first thing that came to my head was Cupcake.

• 11:30Laci Mosley?

  Cupcake. I love Cupcake. So Cupcake says, "Happy Pride Month." Okay, Cupcake. I don't know if you'll see this, and I'm not sure if you've ever covered this scam before, but I thought I'd share one of the oldest Grindr scams in the book, in honor of Pride Month. Okay. "I'm not sure who is falling for this, but I came across it at least once a month." Basically, what happens in this scam is a faceless profile will message you saying they're very interested in you, and they're looking for dates, hookups, and more. And if you're new to the app, it sounds just normal enough to sound real. Wow. So Monique, I'm not on Grindr. Have you ever been on Grindr?

• 12:04Speaker 05

  Yeah, somebody approached me, girl. I was, oh, I almost had a sugar daddy girl. He almost got me.

• 12:11Laci Mosley?

  Cause like, the fact that this per- that Cupcake is saying it's absolutely normal for you to be on a dating app, and someone says, "I'm looking for dates, hookups, and more." Like, I'm on the apps, and no one's ever said that to me. So I'm like, okay.

• 12:25Speaker 05

  I think also, well, you know, maybe not. I think Cupcake might be on the vanilla persuasion, because they talk to them like that. They don't talk to me like that on Grindr.

• 12:35Laci Mosley?

  They don't say they're looking for dates, hookups, and more?

• 12:37Speaker 05

  Uh-uh. I get like bent over booties, crunchy booty hoes. Like, not even a good cab. I'd be like, "Sir, just, I don't want that. No, thank you."

• 12:48Laci Mosley?

  Dick pics are bad enough, because, look, if you're out there-

• 12:51Speaker 05

  Sometimes I, you know, I finally turned 35, and I was like, you know what? Some dicks are not attractive. When I was, you know, 34 and back, I was like, "No, lies." They are just gorgeous. No, some of these hoes didn't get a good-

• 13:07Laci Mosley?

  They did it. It's not cute.

• 13:08Speaker 05

  The hair is like weird, the skin and then if it like, oof, nevermind.

• 13:13Laci Mosley?

  But here's the thing. I think that any dick that you have, no matter what you identify as, is beautiful. If you light it right and shoot it right. And that's the issue with dick pics. I like men out there.

• 13:27Speaker 05

  I agree.

• 13:28Laci Mosley?

  All who identify as men and also non-binary people, if you got penises. Put some light on the penis. Don't shoot it in your bathroom. Definitely don't have your toilet in the back. Like, give it some ambiance and don't send it unsolicited. You need to be reaching out saying, may I send you a picture of my penis? And then they need to be saying, of course. And then you send it and it's got good lighting. If you want to go on an airbrush and throw a Sepia on it. If you want to throw a Paris filter on it, you know? Do that too. Make it cute.

• 13:59Speaker 05

  The airbrush.

• 14:00Laci Mosley?

  Make it cute.

• 14:01Speaker 05

  Please vacuum your rugs if you just gonna. If somebody said, and you can, oh, you don't vacuum your floors?

• 14:09Laci Mosley?

  Right. It's like people have no shame. I'm like, just send me a dick pic. I can see your laundry in the back. I can see, like, that's what I'm looking at. I'm looking at your laundry on the floor.

• 14:18Speaker 05

  All on the mirror, not attractive.

• 14:20Laci Mosley?

  Not attractive.

• 14:21Speaker 05

  You don't wash your countertops? I'm scared to go in your bathroom.

• 14:25Laci Mosley?

  If you don't wash your countertops, I don't think you wash your ass. I'm black, okay? And when we wash dishes, we wash the countertop too. You got to wash everything. In the bathroom as well, you know, like, keep it cute.

• 14:35Speaker 05

  From the top, work your way down. Okay, okay, so anyway.

• 14:39Laci Mosley?

  So, you know, that's what this, uh, Cupcakes Grinder experience is, right? So they're saying, come on out, you know, dates and more. Okay. So, as you message them, they say they want to make sure they are safe with you and want to make you sign up for PSC, Perfect Safety Companion. I have heard about this scam. PSC, Perfect Safety Companion. We have heard about this scam, but it's been a minute. So they want to verify that they're safe with you. When I was a baby gay, I actually went to the website in order to sign up. It requires you to put in your credit card information as a part of the verification website. Uh, or process, rather. With a pre-checked box requesting that anything from the site not appear on your bank account statements for so-called privacy reasons. Hmm.

• 15:24Laci Mosley?

  So, so I don't like a pre-checked box. I hate when you buy something from a store and the box is already checked like, can we send you emails every day? We your best friend? No, I always look for that box and I'm unchecking it. Don't bother me. So, when you reply to the scammer, they say you'll never be charged and that they only want credit card information in case you buy merch from the site. Why would I buy merch? Why aren't we on a dating app? I'm trying to have sex or date. I'm not trying to buy merch. What is the merch? Like, what, what is the merch? What is the merch?

• 15:55Speaker 05

  That's a business opportunity.

• 16:00Laci Mosley?

  So, I don't know. That's curious to me. Obviously, there are a lot of holes in the scam. But the worst part is that if you question it in the slightest way, they send a sob story about the last time they met up with someone and they experienced some sort of tragic hate crime. Typically getting beat up by four guys for no reason. But sometimes the story fluctuates. I imagine this scam is very effective on people new to Grindr because a lot of us have had some sort of trauma for our sexual orientation. And I'm assuming that a lot of people fall for this. Yeah, that's so true because, you know, hate in the LGBTQI plus community is rapid. It's prevalent, especially if we're talking about our trans brothers and sisters and especially if we're talking about black trans women.

• 16:45Laci Mosley?

  You know, it's really, really hard. And that would, I could absolutely see that being something that would trigger people or be like, well, let me sign up for this site because I want to be safe too. Because now you kind of are involving the other person and being like, they're worried about it and then you're kind of worried about it now that they've said it. So, I imagine the scam is probably very effective, right? So, in my early days on the app, the only reason I didn't fall for it was I noticed the pictures they were sending weren't even of the same person. Now, I tend to play along when these scammers do this, of course, because you obviously love scams, cupcake. And one time, I asked if I could join their team and they blocked me. Ah!

• 17:24Laci Mosley?

  Okay, now you're trying to get involved.

• 17:27Speaker 05

  I will survive. Give me a little piece of coal, little piece of charlie.

• 17:32Laci Mosley?

  Okay, man, look, I know what y'all doing over there, and I wanna get involved.

• 17:38Laci Mosley?

  Oh, Lord, I love this for you. Okay, so it says, anyway, if you're in the LGBTQ or any minority in using dating apps, I'm sure this scam happens in many different forms. So to stay safe out there, never give your credit card information out, no matter how sad the story is. Love you, Lacey, and I can't wait to see I Carly. Oh, thank you.

• 17:55Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 17:56Laci Mosley?

  Cupcake.

• 17:57Speaker 05

  Real quick, so that's an old common one. The new common one is where they

• 18:02Laci Mosley?

  Oh, give me the new.

• 18:03Speaker 05

  A photo of like an older muscular white gentleman.

• 18:08Laci Mosley?

  Ooh.

• 18:09Speaker 05

  Or he's like Persian looking like oil.

• 18:12Laci Mosley?

  Like he got some coin, like he got some.

• 18:14Speaker 05

  Right, right, right. They hook you up and they be like, oh, are you looking for daddy? You know, I'm just older and single and I just would love to take care of somebody. Oh, well, and if you have a cocktail, you look at that, you go, bitch, I know I'm cute, bitch, I've been praying all my life. Okay, and then they be like, look, how can I send you somebody? And I'm like, and they be like, if you send me your credit card information out, why are that about that? And I said, well, why won't you send it through Venmo?

• 18:44Laci Mosley?

  Right, or Zelle, or if you're a real scammer, Cash App. But why, but why, why do I need to, first of all, how you gonna put the money on my credit card? That's not how credit cards work.

• 18:55Speaker 05

  Bro, I don't know. But yeah, that's how they do it.

• 18:57Laci Mosley?

  That's the thing too, is like, I've learned, even on dating apps, like, especially when you're dark skinned in a city like Los Angeles, like, there's so much colorism that we get relegated to the back so much that some people will like, be like, oh, I love, I, oh my God, I went, and I talked about this on the podcast already, so I'm not gonna get into it, but I went on a date with a guy, and I realized afterwards, he said, I love dark skinned women with a brown heart emoji in his profile, and I should have known better, because he was black. So why do you have to say that? Like, it's weird. And he was dark skinned. So I was like, why are you saying that? Are you trying to be like, you should be so lucky that I, I am. Black man like you, like it was weird.

• 19:37Speaker 05

  That's another scam of how they scam your emotions into affirming. I feel like that is something that when they go after the brown girls, the brown guys, the brown them nays and thems, um, and give that affirmation because it's like a targeted audience that doesn't hear that.

• 19:55Laci Mosley?

  Cause like, and I always do this caveat. I know it's a coastal situation. Eighty-two percent of black people are married to other black people in middle America. But when you come to LA, it's a whole different ballgame.

• 20:06Speaker 05

  It ain't nothing out here that look like me or you, so. I be like, ooh.

• 20:11Laci Mosley?

  But I love you living your life. I hope you're by a pool in Palm Springs. Yes, I love that for you.

• 20:17Speaker 05

  Okay, real quick, just because we're talking about scams on dating apps, did you please hear about that little, uh, the little white girl? She said that Bill Gates, cause you know who recently came out of single or divorced from his wife? And Bill Gates was like flirting with her. It was like, I'm gonna send you some money. And so she sent her, her, like her, her banking information. And then the next morning she woke up and it was like close to three thousand dollars, like.

• 20:47Speaker 05

  I said, Bill Gates is getting the girls, bitch. And she was right.

• 20:52Laci Mosley?

  Yo, that's somebody who's really keeping up with the news. Cause they said, Bill Gates is single? Bet. Let me put his face on the app. And let me tell the girls that I'm Bill Gates. Oh yeah, I'm gonna send you somebody. Send me your banking and routing number and PIN. And mother's maiden name. And then I'mma send you some coin. Wow.

• 21:11Speaker 05

  Have her, and I go, you didn't even look at the Instagram. Like, it all happened on Instagram.

• 21:16Laci Mosley?

  Guys, if anybody approaches you on Insta saying they're a celebrity, go to the page. And if the shit ain't verified, run. And also never give up your banking information. People don't need that to send you money. It's not a necessity to send you money. So do not give up your banking information. And if somebody can't send it through the normal channels of Zelle, Venmo, if they scamming PayPal if they're regular, like. Then don't do it. Like, don't do it. If they're not sending you friends and family PayPal, they're not your friend or your family. And like, don't do it.

• 21:50Speaker 05

  Tell them that, because that's the truth. Because somebody will jack your money up when they send it like a business deal or whatever. It's supposed to be $800 and you get $785.

• 21:58Laci Mosley?

  Because PayPal's like, oh, business? You said business? Oh, we need to cut a business. We're gonna take a cut of the business. If that's your cousin, fine.

• 22:07Speaker 05

  Right, roll that slide.

• 22:08Laci Mosley?

  But if it's business, then we, we need ours. PayPal's like, we need to get our things. So, guys, we're gonna take a quick break for some non-scam advertisements. We'll be right back with Historic Hoodwings. Scams!

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• 24:21Laci Mosley?

  And we are back and it's time for my favorite part of the show, Historic Hoodwinks, where I will regale Monique with a famous con caper group of criminals, single criminal. We don't know yet. Maybe we love them, maybe we hate them. We always find out by the end, right? We're on this journey together. So today we're talking about four women and one man. On June 11th, 2014, four women and one man were indicted for drugging men and charging thousands of dollars on their credit cards at a New York City club or several clubs. If you haven't guessed it by now, this is the story of Hustlers. So we're gonna give y'all the tea that you might not have gotten in the movie because you were too mesmerized by J-Lo on that pole.

• 25:02Laci Mosley?

  When I tell you, when I saw Hustlers in theaters with J-Lo on that pole, I cried. And I'm not even joking because I'm an actress and there's this thing about acting where you're kind of tied to your youth as a woman and you think like, once you get past a certain age, you have to really fight hard for people not to discard you. So to see a 50-year-old bad bitch on a pole, bringing the house down. I was like, this is beautiful. Like, this is revolutionary.

• 25:29Speaker 05

  The one part where that man, uh, she did the spread evil and then she got up on her knees and then, uh, did the motorboat. I said, you know, that man went home and was like, bitch, J-Lo. And you know, they probably had to do that scene more than one. Cut, okay.

• 25:43Laci Mosley?

  Oh, yeah, you did several times.

• 25:45Speaker 05

  Oh, my gosh.

• 25:46Laci Mosley?

  He got J-Lo titties several times. Are you kidding? That man is blessed. Okay, that man got a lotto ticket. He was like, I'm luckiest man in the world. I'mma win today. Like, are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? That man was blessed. And I mean, that movie was fire, you know? So, and I thought J-Lo did deserve an Oscar nomination for that, simply for the fact that, I think that she didn't get it because it's, you know, the Oscars voting committee is a lot of old white men and they probably just think like, oh, J-Lo on a pole, that's easy for her. She was 50.

• 26:20Laci Mosley?

  And she was doing tricks I can't do and I'm half her age. Are you fucking kidding me? Like

• 26:26Speaker 05

  Maybe he was right.

• 26:27Laci Mosley?

  She did the damn thing and like her acting wasn't bad either. It was cute. So I was like, y'all are playing. Y'all should at least gave her a nom for that and you know, maybe she doesn't win.

• 26:37Speaker 05

  I would for sure give her a nom for that. I think like her acting was very, whatever. I felt she's done better in other performances.

• 26:45Laci Mosley?

  I mean, she was giving Made in Manhattan. She was giving with J Lo Gibbs. She gives Made in Manhattan. She gives Enough. She gives Selena. And like you love it and you live, but that pole work.

• 26:56Speaker 05

  My baby, okay?

• 26:57Laci Mosley?

  That's hard. And I dare any of those old dudes who vote for the Oscars to hop up on a fucking pole and see how hard that is. It is hard.

• 27:09Speaker 05

  Well, you might be surprised.

• 27:12Laci Mosley?

  So the story of Hustlers, right? They allegedly ran a Robin Hood style scheme, stealing from those that they viewed as rich and entitled and keeping money for themselves in an industry and economy that had repeatedly done them wrong. Absolutely. You know, like sex working, like that's the thing that I hate about the sex work industry is everyone wants to shame it. Everyone wants to say like, oh, if you do this, you're deplorable. However, most of those people partake in the sex work industry. So it's like you showed up to the strip club and throwing ones on a bachelorette party. You hiring strippers for your bachelorette or bachelor party. You fucking going, you know, to the club.

• 27:52Laci Mosley?

  You watching porn, because honey Pornhub, they're busy every day. They're one of the most frequented sites in the fucking world.

• 28:00Speaker 05

  Which they shouldn't be because they're trash.

• 28:02Laci Mosley?

  So can we stop acting like these people are less than? They're doing a service and a job that people love.

• 28:09Speaker 05

  I think they should charge more.

• 28:11Laci Mosley?

  They should because they're doing a job and a service that people love and that people find necessary. And we all need to stop shaming it because it's fucking weird. It's like, come on now.

• 28:21Speaker 05

  Business in the world.

• 28:24Laci Mosley?

  Jesus was kicking it with Mary Magdalene, so why can't you bitch? Like, let's talk about it. Let's talk about it.

• 28:30Speaker 05

  Tax collectors and the prostitutes.

• 28:32Laci Mosley?

  Like, so stop playing with me. Jesus knew that sex work was lit, so stop playing with me. Okay, Mary always got in the club, you know? So like, let's, if Jesus was turning water into wine, he was like, here you go, Mary, here's a cup. Let's stop playing, you know? I'm just saying. So, five years later, they would become the subject of Jennifer Lopez and Constance Wu starring in the film Hustlers, directed by Lorena Schafkaria, obviously, or Schafaria, excuse me. So, the beginning. Rosalynn, AKA Rosie Kao, grew up in Rockland County, New York. I don't know where the hell that is. I know it's not the city. Rockland County, honey, that's outside the city. Rosie dropped out of school at seventeen to work and help her household. She found a job as a waitress at a diner in Nantucket, New York.

• 29:17Laci Mosley?

  Many of her customers were employees and customers of Lace, the nearby gentleman's club, okay? One night, one of Lace's managers suggested that she stop by the club and see if she was interested in making some coin. So, Rosie was a bad bitch, and whoever was coming in this diner after the club getting their waffles, you know? They were like, oh, you real bad. Do you, would you like to partake in more money? And I'm mad at it. Rosie stopped by the next day, lied about her age, and landed a job as a dancer. Eventually, she wanted to make more than, okay, so here's the thing. She could have lied about her age, but if they accepted it without formal identification and stuff,

• 30:01Laci Mosley?

  they knew, when you're seventeen, you look seventeen. You look like a baby. Like, I ain't never seen a seventeen year old, my sister's seventeen, I've never seen a baby, a seventeen year old that didn't look like a baby. So, they knew, they probably knew.

• 30:13Speaker 05

  No, depending on where you're from and what them genetics look like, girl, you know, like, they just built.

• 30:20Laci Mosley?

  That's true, cuz I-

• 30:21Speaker 05

  Southern is out, I'm built just different.

• 30:24Laci Mosley?

  I know a thirty-five year old who looks like a high schooler, so you're right. Some people build different. Some people build different. They don't age the same. You're right about that.

• 30:32Speaker 05

  J Lo was fifty on the pole, so clearly.

• 30:34Laci Mosley?

  Clearly, you're right about that. You're absolutely right about that. So, and I don't wanna implicate the people who-

• 30:40Speaker 05

  But I will give you, there are the ones that, look, we have, we've all lived and seen folks in places and we go, you shouldn't be here, little boo-boo, but okay, we watching you, alright?

• 30:52Laci Mosley?

  Right, we gonna let you live, but also we not gonna let you die.

• 30:56Speaker 05

  That part, okay bitch. Look, let her up, oh bitch, somebody look a little too handsome, wait a minute, that's my sister, that bitch, that.

• 31:02Laci Mosley?

  Right, back up, back the fuck up, yes, absolutely.

• 31:06Speaker 05

  Okay, now go over here and go shake ass somewhere else, okay, right, right, find somebody else.

• 31:11Laci Mosley?

  But, so eventually, she wanted to make more than the five hundred to a thousand a night she was then making, and started driving into the city to work at Flash Dancers in Times Square, and Larry Flynt's, and the Hustlers Club in Hell's Kitchen. Um, so, let me just say, Times Square strip clubs, they be giving Law and Order SVU. They be giving, it's like a mob that's tied to this, and I'm scared for these women, like, it's, it gives, it doesn't give what it needs to be giving, which is like, Atlanta strip clubs, you go in there, you know it's some grown bad bitches,

• 31:50Laci Mosley?

  they're all of age, and they're all fucking acrobats, they're all Simone Biles, they climb up on the pole fifty feet high and ride each other.

• 31:57Speaker 05

  Good working, now, because we know that you can go to different parts of Atlanta, and she is a little young.

• 32:04Laci Mosley?

  I'm talking about King of Diamonds, Magic City. King of Diamonds in Miami, Magic City in Atlanta, and, um, Ace of Diamonds in LA. And Ace of Diamonds in LA, you're gonna go there and just see a bunch of girls with a bunch of Instagram followers, and they'll be twerking some s-. No, because in LA, you can't serve liquor at strip clubs if people are getting naked. So, you have, they have them in bathing suits and stuff.

• 32:33Speaker 05

  I just need you to be in something cute and go upside down.

• 32:38Laci Mosley?

  They're like, girl, I got a million followers, y'all know me, they coming out and just being like, look at me, I'm, you know.

• 32:44Speaker 05

  I said, then I need to go to Atlanta, I do one of those, I went to one.

• 32:47Laci Mosley?

  They work hard in Atlanta, and they work hard in Miami. In Miami, I saw stuff that I was like, And I was at, sometimes I wasn't at a strip club, I was at like Liv and I saw people doing the surfboard where it's like one girl's holding the pole. And another girl is standing on top of her and they're spinning around up like fifty foot high. I was like, there's no way I could ever do this. And every time I've ever gone to a strip club, it's always been with like men. And like in my early twenties, like we would be out here, we would be with the football players, we would be out here with the ballers, they would fly us out places. And they would give us money to tip the strippers and I'd be like, I'm in my early twenties, you know, I'm poor, honey. So I'd be like, half for me and my titties and half for you, half for you, cuz I can't not, I can't keep all the money.

• 33:32Laci Mosley?

  You know how many times I woke up in a hotel with money in my titties and I was like, how did this, um, okay. Well, alright. Sometimes I would go with football players and they'd be like, y'all gotta tip good, we went to high school together. We'd be like, okay. But they would give us the money. So, the beginnings of the con friendship. Even though Rosie was making more money at Manhattan Club, sometimes three thousand a night, only in a couple hours, Rosie's a bad bitch. Uh, it was still difficult to hold on to earnings as a dancer. The fee to dance at the club was three hundred dollars and management would then claim forty percent of nightly earnings. Additionally, dancers had to tip other employees like bartenders and be sent, to be sent to worthwhile clients. Okay, this is too much.

• 34:16Speaker 05

  I've heard that from a lot of girls. It's a lot of money.

• 34:20Laci Mosley?

  Like, look, I understand, three hundred to dance, fine. Forty percent, it needs to be ten. And then you have to tip out your bartenders and your waitstaff, I understand that. But if you tipping out the employees and you're paying forty percent to the club, what am I paying forty to, forty percent to the club for if I'm already paying a three hundred dollar fee? And I'm paying and tipping out this waitstaff. What is this forty percent shit?

• 34:48Speaker 05

  I watched this thing on Amazon Prime about, uh, I think like behind the pole or something. The girls were saying like how the stripper life is very, very glamorized and fantasized. But she says, baby, ain't the struggle is real. She says, cause you be like, I need to dance to make money, but I need three hundred dollars just to get on the pole. And then if I get on the pole, if it's slow, I still am required to tip out all these people plus the forty percent.

• 35:15Laci Mosley?

  This is bullshit. And this is why more strip clubs need to be run by women. Because they need, and I look, I'm not saying like, you know, girl boss, like some, women can be capitalists just like men. But I think more strip clubs need to be run by former strippers.

• 35:28Speaker 05

  Former strippers, exactly.

• 35:30Laci Mosley?

  Who know the game.

• 35:32Speaker 05

  They know the game.

• 35:32Laci Mosley?

  Yep. And aren't gonna play people, because this is fucked up. I'm sorry. I waited tables and I had to pay out for my busters and I had to pay out for my bartenders and bar backs. And that was it. It should be just like waiting tables. You pay out the people that are fucking in there. And then maybe, maybe the three hundred dollar thing stays, but no forty percent to the fucking house. Why am I hitting the house if I already paid the house three hundred dollars? And I'm tipping out your motherfucking waitstaff. That's no, no.

• 36:01Speaker 05

  I agree. It's way too much, but it's uh, crazy.

• 36:04Laci Mosley?

  That's bullshit. Yeah, it's just, i- i- it's ridiculous. So at least up until two thousand eight, money was still good in large part due to the number of Wall Street clients that had frequented the club. Rosie says of hustlers, it was like La La Land in there. We had guys who were Guggenheim partners. He spent three hundred grand in one week. He came in three times, a hundred grand every time he walked in the room. Everyone made ten thousand dollars every time he came in. However, things drastically changed after the two thousand eight housing crisis. Because obviously a lot of these motherfuckers were coming up on the housing crisis. Cause a lot of them were playing the stock market like it was goddamn craps and making a lot of money at that time. Because we're talking about those fucking balloon housing investments and stuff like, people were making money.

• 36:47Laci Mosley?

  And low key, that's Clinton's fault because he was the one who deregulated the banking industry and let them get involved in that kind of shit. So. Rosie had taken time off the previous year to have a baby. When she returned, the industry had changed. Many of the Wall Street clients had stopped coming in and it was much harder to make the money that she was used to. Additionally, there was a whole new generation of dancers at the club who were much more willing to perform sex acts for money. So, look, if you're a sex worker, cool. But if you're a sex worker in a strip club where the strippers aren't trying to do sex work, now you cutting in on what they get because they know there's somebody else who's willing to go to the champagne room and get the champagne pop.

• 37:26Speaker 05

  Perfect it all.

• 37:27Laci Mosley?

  Right. So faced with a choice, she reconnected with Samantha Barbash, a retired dancer, someone Rosie had known from Hustlers before. Rosie noticed that Samantha was doing extraordinarily well by just bringing men into the club and keeping them entertained all night. Curious. Hmm. By the time Samantha and Rosie started working together, Samantha had developed a long list of connections with hosts and clients. Rosie said, "I started noticing these bitches make a lot of money and they don't even really work." Samantha had found some kind of loophole where I can get paid to not have to actually have sex. Hmm, okay. I'm, I would be interested too. Together, they recruited two other friends of the dancers, Karina Pescucci and Marisa Rosen. And then the only images we have of them is a mugshot.

• 38:10Laci Mosley?

  To act as lures in the fishing scheme, Samantha would reach out, and I'm not going to post anyone's mugshot on the Instagram page, sorry guys. I'll post other stuff, but not mugshots. So Samantha would reach out to potential clients to meet up for drinks and have Karina or Marcy meet them, and then the others would show up to overwhelm the client with attention. Hmm. Having hooked the mark, they then steer him to a club and encourage him to run up his credit card. Though deceptive, the practice wasn't illegal. However, after a time, the women found this method to be both time consuming and not generating enough money. So they said, "Look, we gotta go and woo this nigga all night. We could be like, "Ooh, you're so cute. Ooh, show us pictures of your kids. We want to tell your wife. We love your Brooks Brothers

• 38:51Laci Mosley?

  suit." That's a lot of work. They're like, "This is taking too long." So, here comes the illegality. So after spending thousands of dollars a night, many men expected more than a lap dance or a conversation. You know how me and B. So Samantha and Rosie's solution was to hire sex workers to perform sex acts on them. Rosie and Samantha would source girls from Craigslist or Backpage, we know about Backpage too, and then give them makeovers with new clothes, etiquette lessons to make them more acceptable for the increasingly high-profile clientele. Additionally, sometimes the men would be too tired to go out or not interested in high, you know, energy-inducing drugs, and the night would become a bust. So basically, they'd be like, "Oh, do you wanna come out with us, Wall Street Dad?" And they'd be like, "I'm tired, I worked all day."

• 39:33Laci Mosley?

  "Okay, well, do you want some cocaine so you can wake up?" "I don't do cocaine." "Well, alright, well damn." So Samantha's solution was to just sprinkle MDMA or ketamine into their drinks to get them going again. I thought ketamine was a horse tranquilizer that made you like... Pass. It makes you like...

• 39:52Speaker 05

  You can get into a K-hole. Uh, that's when you have done so much that you are just like, "Ugh." Dead, but...

• 40:00Laci Mosley?

  Does it wake you up, though, if it's a little bit?

• 40:03Speaker 05

  It's, ketamine is like the new, like, party drug that doesn't give you any kind of hangover or whatever. So you're like, "Woo!"

• 40:11Laci Mosley?

  Oh, I thought it was a horse tranquilizer that always leads you into a K-hole. Okay, so maybe you can party on a little bit again. I mean, that, listen, it's not a recommendation for y'all to do that. Okay? So, the cocktail had an effect of keeping the men happy and technically conscious, but messed with their memory and essentially made them blackout. When the men would call weeks later complaining about the tens of thousands of dollars charged with their card, they'd be reminded of the good time they had but couldn't remember, supported by security camera footage. Before long, Samantha and Rosie were rolling in cash, dropping thousands of dollars on luxury shoes, cars, and living the lives they'd previously only dreamed of. So this is the downfall of the scheme. So, this all makes sense. This, like, they got them drugged up.

• 40:51Laci Mosley?

  They were like, "You had a great time. Look at this camera. You was whipping your tie around like, uh, like a, um, helicopter." You know what I mean? You was like, "New York City, come on a razor, take your tie off." And twist it around the air like a helicopter. Like, you was lit. We got footage, bro. So, problems arose when tensions began between Samantha and Rosie, and they grew. That's the thing, if you're scamming, if you're scamming in a group, you gotta keep the group together. Y'all can't branch off, you can't do no secret shit, that's how you will fall down. Listen, we talked about that with the college admissions scheme, they would have still been scheming colleges to this very day if one of them didn't go fucking rogue. You gotta keep the scam intact.

• 41:32Laci Mosley?

  Many of these clients have been permanently burned when the women maxed out their credit cards. And Samantha became more reckless in reaching out to strangers as well as recruiting unreliable girls. So Samantha's over here like, I'm just trying to get to the money, okay? Everybody mad, cuz they should be at you Samantha, you're getting messy. And also like, I'm not saying in any way that we approve of drugging people. I don't care if they're men, I don't care if they're sleazy assholes, you shouldn't be drugging people to manipulate them out of your money, that's not cool, so I don't fuck with that. Uh, the beginning of the scam, I did fuck with when y'all was just juicing them up and giving them confidence to spend money. But when you start drugging them, hmm, that's not, that's not ethical, that's not right, it's not right.

• 42:13Laci Mosley?

  So Rosie had issues with this, saying, when I'm doing business with somebody, I want stand-up people, not junkies and criminals. People ha- that have morals and principles, trying to scam the righteous.

• 42:24Speaker 05

  Aye, can't do that.

• 42:27Laci Mosley?

  The women became less careful, even once only narrowly avoiding being caught by the DEA in a sting operation. The operation really blew up when the story of another victim, Dr. Zayed Yunman, a New Jersey cardiologist, made papers. He had racked up a hundred five thirty thousand dollar bill at Scores, one of the women's clubs, and refused to pay. Saying that the only way he would have spent that money is if he were drugged, hmm, curious cuz you probably were.

• 42:52Laci Mosley?

  The story made big headlines when Scores sued him, citing security camera footage as evidence that he actually spent the money. However, it was a spark that lit a fire, and when only four witnesses were willing to come forward with their experiences with the women, it was enough to finally catch them. So four wi- so basically, somebody saw this story in the paper and they were like, wait a minute.

• 43:11Speaker 05

  What's happening to me?

• 43:13Laci Mosley?

  I too don't remember giving these sexy bitches all my money. I too agree with this doctor cardiologist. So then, they were after him. However, it was, so this is a spark that lit a fire. Right? The arrest started June ninth, twenty fourteen, a couple of months after Youngman's story came out. In a total, the scam ran for only a little less than a year. Wow, because Samantha got greedy. Like you were saying earlier, Monique, when you get greedy, you gonna get caught. Absolutely. So Samantha was arrested first, which she should have been because she was the messiest. So I'm sure they picked Samantha up easy. Samantha was like, hey boo, you wanna come out with me tonight? Oh, look over there, a plane. And then she was sprinkling, she was sprinkling the drugs and they drink.

• 43:58Laci Mosley?

  She was like, oh, oh my god, a naked woman, look over there. Sprinkle, sprinkle, sprinkle. Right. She was like, oh, over there, a new investment deal. Sprinkle, sprinkle, sprinkle.

• 44:12Laci Mosley?

  So she got caught first. That's not surprising. The cops picked up Marcy and Karina next, and then Rosie was arrested last. The next time they were all reunited was inside a cell at Rikers. Ooh, the prison, prison.

• 44:25Speaker 05

  That's scary, girl.

• 44:26Laci Mosley?

  Rikers is not a good prison to be at. That's a bad one. So the women were charged with conspiracy, forgery, assault, and grand larceny. They all pled guilty to the charges. Samantha cooperated with authorities and was only sentenced for five years probation. So remember, Samantha was picked up first. And she cooperated with authorities, which means that she probably got in there. And she did, she put on her rainbow wig and she gave us the six nine. She snitched on everybody. Samantha got in there and was like, okay, it was Karina, Marcy, Rosie. She got in there, she was like DMX, like what these bitches want. Tina Cookie, I met her at an ice cream parlor. It was Danny and Suzie. And like, she went in there and snitched on everybody. She was like, who y'all wanna know?

• 45:11Laci Mosley?

  She was like, I know some people with some expired parking tickets. Y'all want that?

• 45:15Speaker 05

  That one. Okay, she said, I'm not going down.

• 45:18Laci Mosley?

  She said, my cousin Gigi used to run numbers on Third Street. Y'all want her? Like, she went in there and snitched on everybody. So then, while Marcy and Karina were sentenced to four months of weekends in jail and five years probation, weekends in jail?

• 45:36Laci Mosley?

  What?

• 45:37Speaker 05

  Where did you that?

• 45:38Laci Mosley?

  Jail is so stupid. Jail is so stupid and prisons need to be abolished. This shit is fucking stupid. Weekends in jail, so I'm Monday through Friday, I'm free and then oh Friday night, you know, at seven o'clock, I gotta go to jail. What?

• 45:51Speaker 05

  So you don't turn up and do anything criminal?

• 45:53Laci Mosley?

  What?

• 45:54Speaker 05

  Criminal activity? Well.

• 45:56Laci Mosley?

  So Rosie likes Samantha took a deal that kept her out of prison and was sentenced to only five years probation. Rosie said, I thought about it and I'm like the only one of those girls that was normal with a brain on my head and a child and a future. So she said, I'm not about to fuck my baby up being in prison. So she snitched as well. Samantha sued STX Entertainment and Jennifer Lopez's Norican Productions, the production companies behind Hustlers for exploitation of her image and defamation of her character. The multimillion dollar lawsuit was dismissed by a judge as they did not find the film used Samantha's name, portrait, picture, or voice in the movie. Note, the character is based off Samantha and was named Ramona Vega in the film.

• 46:34Laci Mosley?

  So it is based off of Samantha and they said that it didn't Samantha didn't have strong enough lawyers cuz they stole your story.

• 46:42Speaker 05

  Again, she was trying to scam, trying to get in this jail out.

• 46:46Laci Mosley?

  Girl. Now they could have broke Samantha off with some coin cuz they know they stole her story.

• 46:51Speaker 05

  This is Hollywood and you know they're not gonna do no such thing.

• 46:53Laci Mosley?

  They're not. She had, she should have just went for broke and got the best lawyers.

• 46:57Speaker 05

  That hard?

• 46:58Laci Mosley?

  You know, she would have probably been fine. Karina is working on her associate's degree in criminal psychology. Okay, Karina? She was like, look, I'm a criminal. I'm interested in the psychology.

• 47:08Speaker 05

  Wait, didn't that, didn't they do that on Catch Me, uh, Catch Me If You Can with Leonardo DiCaprio? He became the like working for the FBI, the CIA after the end of his career.

• 47:18Laci Mosley?

  That's what happens. If you're a good criminal, if you're a really good criminal, the FBI will be like, look, we respect your hustle. Can you teach us your ways? Like, can you put us on game? Cuz we're trying to stay woke. Like, the FBI needs criminals in order to catch other criminals. So they'll give a good criminal a break. If you're real smart, they'll be like, can you tell us?

• 47:38Speaker 05

  How would you? Yeah.

• 47:41Laci Mosley?

  Cuz we interested. So Rosie's now working on a memoir. Alright, that is the deep story, the deep cut of that Hustlers movie that you probably didn't see in theaters. Alrighty then, a mess. Guys, we're gonna take a quick break for some non-scam advertisements. We'll be back for the saddest part of the show. This is when I have to let Monique go.

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  Hi, I'm Jenna Oshkowitz. You might know me from Glee. This is At the Table, the food allergy podcast, a show about food, connection, and what it really looks like to live with food allergies. Each episode, we hear stories from real people like Daniel.

• 49:14Speaker 00

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• 49:25Speaker 07

  And while there are challenges, there are moments that remind you you're not alone.

• 49:31Speaker 01

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• 49:57Laci Mosley?

  And now we're back and it's time for the last segment of the show scammer of the week. This is where we highlight a charlatan who we believe is worthy of our praise or maybe not. We'll know by the end. So scammer of the week is a Florida man. Oh Lord, y'all know when this Florida is about to be a mess. Who faces 104 felony counts after he allegedly used at least 28 people's personal information to create fake identities in order to purchase expensive items in area stores. Christopher Crouch, 23. Oh, a young scammer.

• 50:27Speaker 05

  Ooh.

• 50:27Laci Mosley?

  Would create, oh, look at, oh, oh, Christopher, you are, your face look like a thumb. He ain't got no chin. Where's the chin at? Where's the chin? You know, when God made Christopher, he was like, oops, we forgot the chin. Did y'all put a chin in there? No, we didn't put a chin in there, Jesus. What, God, did anybody put a chin on there? Nobody. Nobody. Nobody. Christopher is a chinless man and um, you know, he would create these fake identities, right? And he would create fake driver's licenses using the victim's information and his photograph. And then open bank accounts or credit cards at stores such as Dick's Sporting Goods, Home Depot and Marshalls. So he was scamming on a bunch.

• 51:07Speaker 05

  Face it, face it.

• 51:09Laci Mosley?

  He then purchased expensive items immediately after being approved for the account. It's unknown how he obtained the victim's information, though police speculate he looked through their mail and trash. Crouch also lived off his girlfriend's income during the crime spree. So he had, he had a girlfriend, which wow, okay. Man can always get a girlfriend.

• 51:28Speaker 05

  I mean, it's true, girl. Say no. Love yourself.

• 51:33Laci Mosley?

  Love yourself.

• 51:34Speaker 05

  Love yourself.

• 51:35Laci Mosley?

  Are you supporting Christopher Crouch and he doing crime? I'm sorry, if I'm dating a scammer, he better be breaking me off some of the scam money and not telling me so I don't get implicated. I'm not fucking no scammer and supporting them.

• 51:46Speaker 05

  No, you know why she supported him? Because he was using all of the discounted makeups and, and, and lotions from Marshalls.

• 51:54Laci Mosley?

  You think he was getting her like a jade face roller or some? She was getting broke off a little bit. She got some Paris Hilton eyelashes and so she kept quiet.

• 52:03Speaker 05

  She was cute. She got me a little beauty blender. She was like, oh.

• 52:07Laci Mosley?

  Right. It's not even a real beauty blender.

• 52:11Laci Mosley?

  It's the, it's the pretty blender.

• 52:15Speaker 05

  It's just blend.

• 52:16Laci Mosley?

  Beauty sponge.

• 52:17Speaker 05

  There you go. It's the sponge blend. Sponge blend. There you go.

• 52:20Laci Mosley?

  Sponge blend. Like, okay. She had to be getting something. I hope sis, I hope you didn't scam yourself by supporting a scammer and not getting broke off. Cause this man is not cute enough to be living anywhere for free. He always needs to be paying rent. Five thousand twenty, like six hundred, man. He need to be paying rent. What? No. So.

• 52:39Speaker 05

  That's romantic.

• 52:39Laci Mosley?

  It's unknown, like, how he obtained the victim's information, right? Crouch also lived off of his girlfriend, right? In addition to his expensive purchases, Crouch also used stolen identities to purchase cell phones and rent the apartment he was residing in. Wait a minute. So he had his own apartment and you was supporting him?

• 52:58Laci Mosley?

  I am confused.

• 52:59Speaker 05

  I wanna know what she looked like.

• 53:01Laci Mosley?

  He was arrested and booked in February of twenty twenty one. Wow.

• 53:05Speaker 05

  Is there photos of her?

• 53:08Laci Mosley?

  I don't think we have no photos of her, but Christopher Crouch.

• 53:11Speaker 05

  I wanna see what she looked.

• 53:12Laci Mosley?

  Christopher Crouch probably speaks a good game.

• 53:14Speaker 05

  He got game and I feel like this lady probably had money or at least social security.

• 53:19Laci Mosley?

  Social security and he twenty three. Well, she could be any age. We don't know. And if she paying, she gotta be older.

• 53:27Speaker 05

  Chris probably got that good, ooh, girl.

• 53:31Laci Mosley?

  Chris working with something.

• 53:32Speaker 05

  Something. Okay. It's not a chin.

• 53:34Laci Mosley?

  And not a chin. It's not, we know he's not working with the chin, okay? He don't got one of those, but he working with something because nothing in life is free. There's no such thing as a free lunch.

• 53:43Speaker 05

  You know, he could cook.

• 53:45Laci Mosley?

  Maybe he could. You know, he look like he might be able to cook.

• 53:47Speaker 05

  Baby. I need to see what his girlfriend looks like. We need to find.

• 53:51Laci Mosley?

  Now I'm so curious.

• 53:53Speaker 05

  I mean, I'm so intrigued. Like, what was he doing for you that you knew?

• 53:58Laci Mosley?

  I don't know.

• 53:59Speaker 05

  Anyway.

• 54:00Laci Mosley?

  I am confusion. But guys, that brings us to the end of another episode. Monique, you've been fantastic. Oh, my God, Monique Cart, an icon. This is an amazing episode. I know everyone's gonna love it.

• 54:10Speaker 05

  Thank you, thank you, thank you.

• 54:11Laci Mosley?

  So Monique, we always ask on the show.

• 54:13Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 54:14Laci Mosley?

  Where do you want to be found? So shows, things you want people to see, watch, listen to, where do you want people to find you?

• 54:20Speaker 05

  Uh, right now, well, I want you to find me in concerts and on podcasts and television shows and movie productions and owning productions. But right now, you can find me online on social media, that's Instagram, that's I am Monique Cart. My skincare line, Mo Beauty, will be coming out soon. We are doing the final stages of packaging and we will be launching that ASAP. So that'll be coming out soon. Also, check out my podcast, Ace of Hearts. Um, and anything else in terms of, no, let's just, yeah, pray for me, as I pray for you in the Lord.

• 55:01Laci Mosley?

  Yes, amen. And as always, guys, if you want to snitch on your friends and family, just make sure your scam is retired. [email protected]. If you want to find me and my online shenanigans, D I V A L A C I D, Diva Lacy on all platforms, except for TikTok where I'm Lacey Mosley. And guys, I Carly, June 17th, get into it on Paramount Plus. A Black Lives Guest Show is streaming on HBO Max, so you can get into that whenever you want. Congregation, stay scheming. Scam Goddess. This has been an Earwolf Production in association with Team Coco. Scam Goddess stars and is hosted by me, Lacey Mosley, AKA Scam Goddess. It's produced by Judith Cargbo, engineered by Marina Faiz, and researched by Kaelyn Brandt. Stay scheming.

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