Fraud Friday: The Heartbreak Hustler w/ Dexter Mayfield

In this week's Fraud Friday, Laci is joined by Dexter Mayfield (The Art of Being, Sandy Wexler) to discuss a scammer known by over a dozen names in over a dozen states, all while leaving over a dozen broken hearts in her wake. Plus, an influencer gets in trouble for promoting a skincare line claiming protection from blue screen light. Stay Schemin’! (Originally Released 11/29/2021) CON-gregation, catch Laci's TV Show, Scam Goddess, now on Freeform and Hulu! Did you miss out on a custom signed Scam Goddess: Lessons from a Life of Cons, Grifts and Schemes book? Look no more, nab your copy here on PODSWAG Follow on Instagram: Scam Goddess Pod: @scamgoddesspod Laci Mosley: @divalaci Dexter Mayfield: @dexrated Research by Kaelyn Brandt SOURCES: https://gamerant.com/valkyrae-rflct-youtube-controversy-skincare-brand-misinformation-misleading-research/ https://gamerant.com/valkyrae-rflct-studies-hidden-comments-video-clip/ https://www.nbcnews.com/news/crime-courts/serial-con-artist-swindled-victims-abandoned-her-children-n936936 https://www.cbsnews.com/news/dana-lawrence-confidence-woman-aliases-scams-fbi-declassified/ https://filmdaily.co/news/dana-lawrence-con-artist/ https://thecinemaholic.com/where-is-dana-lawrence-now/

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• 1:29Laci Mosley?

  What's poppin', congregation? It's your girl, Lacey Mosley, AKA Scam Goddess. Welcome to an episode of Fraud Fridays, where we release older episodes from the Scam Goddess Vault. That's right, Fraud Fridays is where we bring back your favorite episodes from behind the paywall. Enjoy this episode from behind the paywall and as always, stay schemin'.

• 2:11Laci Mosley?

  Hello, congregation. Or should I say hello? Hello, congregation. How are you today? How you guys doing? It's me, Lacey Mosley, AKA Scam Goddess, and I'm here for another episode, another installment of Scam Goddess, and I'm what?

• 2:27Laci Mosley?

  Yes, I'm very excited. I'm super thrilled for our guest today. Do you guys like my British accent? Like, look, I used to do this in London when I lived there. I tried it out on people and it worked in the hardware store, so don't give me the

• 2:38Speaker 03

  I absolutely love it.

• 2:39Laci Mosley?

  Thank you so much, Dexter.

• 2:42Speaker 03

  It is so well.

• 2:44Laci Mosley?

  Thank you so much. Oh, you guys already have a sneak preview of who's here. So today, we have a dancer, a model, and an actor on the show. Most recently, he's appeared in Taylor Swift's latest music video, You Need to Calm Down, which has won two MTV Video Music Awards. You can also see him featured in the Savage X Fenty Volume Two fashion show, giving fashion, giving hottie, giving botty. Congregation, please welcome Dexter Mayfield. Dexter!

• 3:15Speaker 03

  Thank you so much for having me. I'm so glad to be here.

• 3:20Laci Mosley?

  Thank you so much for being here.

• 3:21Speaker 03

  Oh, my God. It's such a pleasure. Such a pleasure. Let me stop before I get stuck. Let me stop before I get stuck.

• 3:29Laci Mosley?

  Right. In it, in it, in it. It's such a pleasure. Oh, my God.

• 3:33Speaker 03

  It's such a pleasure.

• 3:34Laci Mosley?

  I know people are annoyed with me, and that's fine.

• 3:38Speaker 03

  They have to be annoyed with me as well, because I went along with all of it.

• 3:42Laci Mosley?

  It was so good, though. Dexter, I love the red hair. I love the vibe. I met Dexter at a premiere for We Are Here, which is a show on HBO Max that you should be watching. It's Eureka, O'Hara, Shangela, Bob the Drag Queen, and they go across the country into tiny little towns, and they find queer people who haven't had the support of a big city where there's more of us gays. And they do a drag show at the end, but they also talk to the families. It's a bit of a tearjerker. I love it so much. But we met there, and I went there because I was like, I'm gonna get all these queens on my show. I was like, yeah, fun, fun, fun, but also like, come do my podcast.

• 4:25Speaker 03

  100% accurate. I'm a witness. I can attest. Here I am.

• 4:31Laci Mosley?

  Thanks, listen, okay, we're here and now you're here.

• 4:35Speaker 03

  We're here.

• 4:35Laci Mosley?

  I was like, oh yeah, we here. But also can you be here on my podcast, like I know y'all here, but can y'all be here on the podcast as well?

• 4:42Speaker 03

  And I have said yeah.

• 4:43Laci Mosley?

  And I love it. I love this for me. What I was gonna tell you, um, because we were talking a little bit before we started, I was gonna tell you, okay, so I had a hater at that event.

• 4:54Speaker 03

  No.

• 4:55Laci Mosley?

  Yes, and it was a black woman and like she was really petty.

• 5:00Speaker 03

  No, what had happened?

• 5:03Laci Mosley?

  So this is what had happened. So when we get to the premiere, it's like, you know how there was like the red carpet or the pink carpet or whatever, like right when you get inside the Sony lot, right?

• 5:14Speaker 03

  Absolutely.

• 5:15Laci Mosley?

  I pull up in my Uber Black or whatever with my homegirl and

• 5:19Speaker 03

  As you should.

• 5:20Laci Mosley?

  Stop because we're like, oh, that's where the carpet is and I'm there kinda for work, like, you know what I mean? Like, that's why I will say is like, I love my gays because a black gay sketch show, I call it, they'd be like, oh, we know you. Like anywhere else I go, I'm like, hi, my name is Lacey Mosley, I'm on these shows, like, uh, I know no one knows me here, but can you just, my publicist told me to come. Like, I'm very like,

• 5:39Speaker 03

  Exactly, exactly.

• 5:41Laci Mosley?

  I'm so sorry that I'm here, but like, but can y'all just write it on the thing so they know? Like, but here they're like, no bitch, we know you and I was like, ah, this is where I live. So we go, so we stop at the carpet, like we get out. And so when we stopped, the security guard was like, y'all can't get out here, like this is not the stopping point, y'all gotta go down there. And I'm like, baby girl, I'm in heels, I'm not walking, the, the, walking the ghetto.

• 6:05Speaker 03

  Every ad.

• 6:06Laci Mosley?

  Walking.

• 6:07Speaker 03

  Conversation.

• 6:08Laci Mosley?

  Walking with my legs, you want me to move my legs?

• 6:12Speaker 03

  I was supposed to wear a heel that night, but you know, I was like, I'm not gonna do it because I don't know the space, I don't know what's happening.

• 6:19Laci Mosley?

  You know, Emile, uh, shout out to, uh, to Confess Your Mess. But I'mma out you, Emile, I'm sorry, I'mma out you, I know you gonna hear this, but Emile and listen to his podcast with his, uh, boo and fiance, Confess Your Mess, AJ Gibson, um, He was wearing heels and honey by the time I read it to him.

• 6:38Speaker 03

  And I was right there when he took them off and he had the good grandma walk.

• 6:43Laci Mosley?

  It was giving let out.

• 6:45Speaker 03

  Good grandma out of church done.

• 6:48Laci Mosley?

  It was giving if you can't go to Bella Noches, where can you go?

• 6:52Speaker 03

  Where can you, where can you go? It was a slow pace and a pigeon toe and all of the things.

• 6:59Laci Mosley?

  Okay, Emile like, Emile ain't been shot nine times, but he was surely walking like 50 Cent. He was walking like 50 Cent.

• 7:06Speaker 03

  Oh my God. It was the part that was killing me. AJ started leaving him. He was like, you not gonna walk with me if you walking like this. So I'm just gonna separate myself for alone.

• 7:19Laci Mosley?

  He was like, this is embarrassing. Aren't you embarrassed?

• 7:23Speaker 03

  And that's exactly what happened. Oh my God.

• 7:26Laci Mosley?

  Emile is a fine man. Look at his Instagram. His abs are aggressive. He's doing great, but the heels, he was like, I, I'mma tap out, I'mma head out, you know, and he took them heels off.

• 7:35Speaker 03

  Down nowhere. He wasn't sitting down nowhere. And I told him, I was like, listen, if you, if you gonna have these four, five, six inch heels, you got to sit down somewhere.

• 7:45Laci Mosley?

  Right, because some shoes are meant for sitting.

• 7:48Speaker 03

  I'm supposed to wear a pair tonight to an event and guess what? It's a dinner party. So it's perfect. We're great.

• 7:54Laci Mosley?

  For sitting. I'll never forget, my mom bought me a pair of Louboutins for my graduation. And I tried them bitches on in the store and I was like, these are so painful. And they're like, yeah, they're meant for sitting. Like you just sit in them. I was like, I sit in shoes? Like, don't you gotta move your body to go places? And they were like, no, no, no. And now I'm like, yeah. Do you know that if your feet hurt for a few days after you take off a heel, more likely than not, you have broken a bone in your foot? Because there's tons of bones in your feet. And so they heal naturally, but like if you take off some heels and you hurting for a few days, not just like an hour or two or just that night, you most likely broke some bones in your foot.

• 8:33Speaker 03

  You you better go figure it out. You better, you better.

• 8:37Laci Mosley?

  I be breaking these bones all the time. I'm like, I'm gonna need these bones to congeal into a pagal. Thank you, cuz we're wearing the shoe.

• 8:45Laci Mosley?

  Okay, we're wearing the shoe. We're wearing the shoe, guys.

• 8:49Speaker 03

  We have to. It's part of the process.

• 8:51Laci Mosley?

  The program. Which reminds me, WikiFeet, give me five stars. Uh, I know I don't deserve it. I told y'all, my feet look like I've been like, you know, letting fans, like sticking them in fans, like little, like little air fans, like they're ugly. But but scam WikiFeet and give me five stars. So.

• 9:09Speaker 03

  Exactly.

• 9:11Laci Mosley?

  So, oh, to finish this, the security guard, so she was like, y'all can't stop right here. Like, y'all gotta stop over here. I'm like, baby girl, in the time that you telling us to do all this, like, we just gonna get out the car. I was like, we getting out the car. It's all good. Like, the car's gonna leave.

• 9:23Speaker 03

  That's it. We're done.

• 9:25Laci Mosley?

  We get out the car. She's mad. A hater. I incited a hater. And you know, on this podcast, they all know about hater jobs. Being a security, absolutely a hater job. Like, your whole job is to keep people out, is to like be mean, like, it's a hater job. It's necessary, but it's a hater job. So.

• 9:44Speaker 03

  Absolutely.

• 9:45Laci Mosley?

  We go in, we take our pictures, we do whatever, right? Then, we go to the bathroom once, and we end up just like checking our makeup, chilling, whatever. And all the bathrooms, you know, there were like, how bathrooms should be, which is just like gender neutral. So there's like, people who are men, or people who are non-binary, women, like, everybody's in the same bathrooms and ain't nothing going on. Chilling. So.

• 10:07Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 10:07Laci Mosley?

  We come out and I was like, well, I need to get a picture of my feet. So my homie takes a picture of my feet on this couch, just inside. And then the security lady comes in, and this is a different lady, and she's like, oh, you actually can't sit on the furniture. I'm like, okay, girl, we just getting this photo off real quick. Is that cool? And she was like, yeah, that's fine. So then the other security lady, the hater lady, comes in after her and is like, you have to get off the couch. I'm like, girl, we was getting off. We was just getting the photo for the gram. Okay.

• 10:32Speaker 03

  Like, we done now.

• 10:34Laci Mosley?

  We done now. So we get up, we go, we're watching the premiere. It's cold. I didn't bring a jacket. I'm a cold hoe at this point. So I was like, oh, let's just go back to the bathroom for a second, like, just warm up. So go to the bathroom. And tell me why. Uh, the, there was like a security guard in there. My homegirl who went came with me. I'm not gonna say her name. She was lit and like when she's lit, she be talking to people. I wasn't lit because I missed the drinks because I was taking photos and shit. So she's lit and she just likes to talk to people when she listens. She's like, oh, where you from? Like, who are you? Like, da, da, da, da. I'm like, you don't gotta be chatting with everybody now. But

• 11:08Speaker 03

  Not that for y'all.

• 11:09Laci Mosley?

  Right. But most of the time it's fine and she makes great friends and we end up having great experiences. So I'm not gonna knock it because I love it. It's not me and that's why I love her because she be doing stuff I don't. So she talks to the security guard. And the security guard is like painting her dust and it's just some random security guard. So then the security guard leaves. Tell me why the hater, security guard, comes in the bathroom, accosts me and says, I heard you were in here doing drugs.

• 11:42Laci Mosley?

  I was like, bitch, who? I was like, do you wanna check my purse? Like, I don't got no drugs. Like, what are you talking about?

• 11:47Speaker 03

  Wow.

• 11:49Laci Mosley?

  I'll just believe you. And I was like, who told you? Like, who? What? I was like, what was this report? Like, who told you? She was like, someone said, someone in pink boots. And I was wearing pink thigh high pleather boots. She was like, uh, they said that they were doing drugs. I'm like, bitch, you made this up. You're just mad that I didn't listen to your dumb ass in the beginning.

• 12:09Speaker 03

  First of all, first of all, at the event that we was at, it was real nice and it was real elevated. But at the end of the day, it is the community. And the community is gonna do what the community is gonna do. So I highly doubt anybody from the community would literally go up to a security guard talking about, I saw a black girl in pink boots doing drugs. Get her.

• 12:36Laci Mosley?

  What?

• 12:37Speaker 03

  What? In what world do you think that is possible?

• 12:42Laci Mosley?

  She made that shit up and I was dying.

• 12:46Speaker 03

  And she was out here scamming. She was out here scamming and hatin' and those two do not mix.

• 12:52Laci Mosley?

  And that's why I say like, look, y'all gotta know when you meet in a petty person and you have to know how to disarm them. Because the best way to disarm a petty ass person in a petty ass job, like a parking meter, like da da da da da, is kindness. You can't get, you can't get mad.

• 13:08Speaker 03

  That's all you can do. That is literally all you can do.

• 13:10Laci Mosley?

  You deserve to get mad. You cannot get mad because that's only gonna make the situation, like, situation worse because that's what they want. Like, one time I was late for a flight, which I constantly am, and because I, I call myself, uh, like, I do Michelle Obama hours. So I go to the airport, like, I'm about to just walk up the stairs on the plane, like, I just be acting like I'm flying private.

• 13:29Speaker 03

  Michelle Obama hours, very self-explanatory.

• 13:32Laci Mosley?

  I don't like to be in airports, but I was like, I slid under this, like, it was like a red eye, so it was late at night in LAX. I slid under this little, like, you know, the little, uh, gatekeeper thingies that they have with the little rubber, whatever the fuck it is. And this lady, a petty, a petty police, she was like, oh, you can't do that. You need to go back downstairs. She told me, go back downstairs. Like, I was in goddamn middle school or something, like, I gotta go stand in the wall, face the corner. I was like, no, bitch. And that's what I'm saying in my head, but out loud, I was like, oh, my God, I'm so sorry. Like, I'm just so late for my flight. I'm so sorry. I will never do it again. I will go around this thing, but I can't go downstairs because I'll miss my flight. I'm so sorry.

• 14:07Speaker 03

  That is absolutely it.

• 14:09Laci Mosley?

  Well, what's your ticket? And I was like, I'm flying first class. Like, this is my ticket. And she was like, okay, you can go. But I had to disarm her. I had to apologize a lot. Like, sometimes just, like, humble yourself and apologize. Don't, y'all always got to.

• 14:20Speaker 03

  It makes, it honestly makes life so much better and such a smooth transition. Because I remember I was getting in somebody's car and they was popping stupid off at me. And I was like, listen, I don't know what's going on. I'm just trying to get from point A to point B. I think I was working at Bloomingdale's at the time. It was like, I'm just trying to get to work. Can we just figure this out and be okay? And by the end of the ri- at, at, at the end of the ride, they was like, I was, I'm so sorry for the energy that I was giving you. I was like, it's totally fine. I get it. We all have our days. But yes, simply disarming someone is to be nice to them and it sucks that.

• 15:02Speaker 03

  That's what you, I mean, the only way for some people to understand, you don't have to jump ignorant from out the gate.

• 15:12Laci Mosley?

  Is disarming. It is. It's cause like, what are you gonna do when a bitch smiling at you? Like, what you gonna do when the bitch is being nice? Like, how you gonna stay mad?

• 15:22Speaker 03

  Take a, take a position of dominance and be like, let me flex on them. Like, no, it's not gonna work.

• 15:27Laci Mosley?

  And how do you flex if somebody's like, I'm laying down? Like, how do you flex if they're like, so sorry? Like, I'm telling you guys, a strategic apology, a strategic kindness, even if you don't mean that shit. Even if somebody's being an asshole to you, sometimes you just suck it up and you be nice and you'll get what you want. Cause they feel dumb, like they don't have any energy coming back at them and so then they feel stupid.

• 15:48Speaker 03

  It's like, why am I acting this way? Like, why am I acting like a complete buffoon?

• 15:53Laci Mosley?

  Right. Like, y'all know I'm a horrible driver. I told you, I never took a driver's license test. Don't understand how that happened, Texas. Um, but sometimes I be cutting people off. I be doing some shit.

• 16:05Speaker 03

  Only one. You're not the only one.

• 16:10Speaker 03

  You're not the only one. I walked up, I showed her I passed my driver's exam from my test where everybody was giving each other answers and she gave me this.

• 16:22Laci Mosley?

  Not y'all cheating. They was like, hey, hey, hey, uh, what does you mean? What does you?

• 16:26Speaker 03

  We didn't even do that. We just opened the book because our teacher left for two hours of the entire exam. We was done in thirty minutes, chilling.

• 16:38Laci Mosley?

  That's irresponsible as fuck. I can't believe this teacher left. Y'all in here cheating. Not cheating on the driver's license test.

• 16:45Speaker 03

  They was like, we done drove y'all for X O amount of hours. We know what y'all doing here.

• 16:53Laci Mosley?

  The left lane, the fast, the slow.

• 16:55Speaker 03

  It was, and that was the thing. We didn't even need to ask. We all just opened our books and got the exercise.

• 17:03Laci Mosley?

  I was in there cheating, cheating, not driving. That's the most dangerous form of transportation statistically. I think about that every time I get on a plane. But, because I'm like, I hate flying, but I'm like statistically, it is worse to drive. Why am I comfortable driving? But I'm, I'm a terrible driver, so sometimes I be cutting people off and doing some wild shit. And like, if they honk at me or start having road rage, I'll like, either sometimes I act like I don't hear it because they be doing too much and they be yelling at me and I just be like, I'm just gonna pretend I can't hear. But sometimes I'll just like smile and wave and be like, sorry, like, I'm a woman. That's when I let like, you know, misogyny take over and I'm like, I'm just a woman. Don't know how to operate a motor vehicle, you know?

• 17:46Laci Mosley?

  And then like let them go because sometimes people with road rage will follow you, which I'm like, bitch, if you were so mad about the traffic or about what I did to you, like, don't you have somewhere to go? Now you taking some time to follow me?

• 17:57Speaker 03

  What happened to this place that you were in such a hurry to get to?

• 18:01Laci Mosley?

  Now you don't, you're not in a hurry, now you following me? And I've been followed several times. I need to work on my driving. I'm gonna work on it. I'm gonna pray about it and let God take over, but...

• 18:12Speaker 03

  You gonna let Jesus take the wheel, that's all right.

• 18:14Laci Mosley?

  And that's what he do. Every time I get in the car, I'm like, Jesus, you got it? Put it in gear, because you know I don't. You know I don't.

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• 20:28Laci Mosley?

  Dexter, what is your relationship with scams? Like, have you ever been scammed? Do you like scams? Do you hate them? Like, it could be anything.

• 20:35Speaker 03

  I mean, for some reason, somebody tried to come at me with Press Juicery purchases for over $150, like, a couple of months ago. And then I have to cancel my card, and I have to wait for my other card, then I have to, you know, submit an appeal, but just so they could go to Press Juicery. That was just one that really triggered me recently.

• 20:59Laci Mosley?

  Damn, you had a bougie-ass scammer. He went to Press Juicery with some shit.

• 21:04Speaker 03

  Bougie scammer. But the problem is... It didn't even go through because that's what triggered it and I was like, well, caught it now. Bye. Hope it was worth it.

• 21:13Laci Mosley?

  So your bank was like, you don't drink fresh juice?

• 21:18Speaker 03

  They probably were.

• 21:22Laci Mosley?

  Near a press.

• 21:23Speaker 03

  Press juicerie for a hundred and fifty dollars uh in Santa Monica when I live elsewhere. Um, but yeah.

• 21:33Speaker 03

  You know, I was just like, I was like, remember we, we, we out here in these streets. I don't know. I don't know who trying to scam.

• 21:47Speaker 03

  But uh normally my relationship to scamming is like nothing like serious. Um, just, you know, folks on certain apps be like, oh, how are you beautiful? How are you beautiful? Then three weeks later, it's like, I have an emergency. Can you send me some money to Algeria or some foreign country? And, and I've just made that up. That was a code, code name. Nothing against that. Anybody in Algeria, just to be, just.

• 22:19Laci Mosley?

  Just like a far away place. They're like, hey.

• 22:25Speaker 03

  You know what I'm saying? Um, and then it's like, oh, I'm just sorry. I don't have it. And you know, because I don't go for the scam, you know, all of a sudden that person just exits, you know, the room. Uh, but let me see. I guess it's low key scams that I noticed like in the industry that we in. Like let's say, you know, there's a, there's a term that people call a certain group of people, which is BG. We'll just call them BG. And then, you know, being a dancer, a lot of times.

• 22:59Speaker 03

  Production, you know, PAs and production producers, sometimes they like to lump us all in the same group. I'm like, you just hired this person at 8 a.m. this morning versus me having five, six, eight hour multiple rehearsals to show up to set and do certain things. So then, when I show up to set and you asking me to do XOXO that a BG person should do, then we're gonna have a problem. And then I'm gonna get triggered and then I'm gonna look like an asshole when I have to put you in your place, which I most definitely will if you try to pull shenanigans and scams on me.

• 23:39Laci Mosley?

  I had to start telling people, and I've said this, not on this podcast, but every single job that I've gotten hired on, every single one, there has been somebody who comes up to me and was like, "Oh, you're here really early for background work," or "Oh, you're da-da-da." I was like, "Bitch, I work here." And it got to the point where now, if they say it to me, I stop and I very calmly say, "Hey, if you don't know what someone's station is at a place, you should ask them, because it feels incredibly racist for you to just assume that I'm here as someone who is a day player or someone that you picked up off of a website. I'm actually on this show and you've offended me." And I do it, because I'm like, "No, like, you're not gonna gaslight me first thing in the morning." And see, the other thing I tell people is like-

• 24:23Speaker 03

  First, and it's always first thing in the morning.

• 24:26Laci Mosley?

  First thing, I'm like, "It's 5 a.m. and I already doing racism to me at 5 a.m.?" You got up, you like, "The best part of waking up is racism in your cup." You doing racism to me at 5 a.m.? No.

• 24:38Speaker 03

  Like legit.

• 24:39Laci Mosley?

  Let me get breakfast.

• 24:40Speaker 03

  And I do love, I do love when we are on set and we are on camera and we are the main talent and then all of a sudden, they face.

• 24:51Laci Mosley?

  They see it.

• 24:52Speaker 03

  They see it and then all of a sudden they're like, oh Dexter, do you need anything? Do you need anything? I was like, no, I'm good. Thank you.

• 25:00Laci Mosley?

  Right. Like, just don't assume. It's super racist. Just ask people if you do not know. Because what you're saying is like, you're black, so you possibly couldn't be here for anything valuable. And not to say the background isn't valuable, it absolutely is, but there's no qualifications to be background.

• 25:16Speaker 03

  That is some hard working people.

• 25:18Laci Mosley?

  Hardworking people and great people, but I'm like-

• 25:21Speaker 03

  My ministry. I did not sign up for it.

• 25:24Laci Mosley?

  Well, also, there's just more work. There's more work and talent than you being a dancer, you going to show, like, you know, going to practice and rehearsal and stuff. There's more work and talent required to do that than to just submit a picture and be in the back of a scene. It's just, it's not the same. It's like if you were the CEO of a company and they were like, "Hey, here are my keys. Can you go park my car?" It's like, nigga, what? I'm Jeff Bezos. You don't see my cue ball head? You don't see how to murder something responsible for?

• 25:50Speaker 03

  I mean, that's, I mean, honestly, his wife gave him that very much energy when she met Leonardo DiCaprio this, this was recently, child.

• 25:58Laci Mosley?

  She was like, Jeff who? She started looking at that man like she was about to risk it all. I'm like, you gonna risk it all? You gonna meet the one of the richest men in the world?

• 26:06Speaker 03

  She saw Leo, she said scam mode on level five thousand.

• 26:11Laci Mosley?

  Activate. But I'm like, baby girl, if you ain't Gen Z, Leo ain't looking at you. Like, you know, he likes him, uh, young.

• 26:19Speaker 03

  Or Gen Z adjacent, adjacent, where you know, you may not be Gen Z.

• 26:25Laci Mosley?

  If you've heard of the show Cheers, Leonardo ain't gonna date you.

• 26:28Speaker 03

  I'mma punch you, I'mma punch you square through this room right now.

• 26:32Laci Mosley?

  If you've heard Frasier, if you know Tossed Salad and Scrambled Egg, you too old for Leo.

• 26:39Laci Mosley?

  Hell, if you watch Friends.

• 26:43Speaker 03

  HBO Max messed up and put Family Matters on, so I'm checking in on Family Matters all the time.

• 26:53Laci Mosley?

  Well, guys, twenty-three minutes in. We're gonna start our first segment. What's hot and fraud? I'll tell you, Marina's probably over here pulling out her hair. I don't think I've ever gone to twenty-three minutes before I got to a first segment.

• 27:05Speaker 03

  It's our connection. I'm so sorry.

• 27:06Laci Mosley?

  I love it. Y'all gonna live. It's gonna be what it is. So this is the part of the podcast where we warn our listeners about scams that are popping on the street. But more often than not, you know, you all know these days, it's a listener letter. As always, snatch on your friends and family at [email protected]. Just make sure your scam is retired because we don't want to what? Fuck up yo bag. Amen. So here we go. Mom's gonna cuss me out for saying amen after cursing, but it's fine. Um, here we go. This scam, uh, give me a fake name, Dexter. We don't care about gender.

• 27:36Speaker 03

  We gotta use Kiki. Let's keep it Kiki.

• 27:38Laci Mosley?

  Kiki. And we are having Kiki and we're gonna talk, and Kiki's also gonna be the name. So Kiki says, oh, Kiki says, I'm gonna read this. I don't normally read stuff at the top. But hello, I love this podcast and it's gotten me through some hard days. Thank you. Thank you, Kiki. Thank you. That's what we, that's what we do it for. So for context for the story, a university, you are university? I'm gonna say you at university, okay. Or are you a university? That's fine. So it says, and at my university, a food truck will come twice a week. This one week, a food truck came in that made these brisket fries. A friend and I went to the truck to get these fries and they were absolutely delicious. Come on, brisket fry, that sound good. You better put some brisket on the fry.

• 28:23Speaker 03

  It sounds so good.

• 28:24Laci Mosley?

  Amen. Biscuit on a fry? So the next day, I went through my usual routine and I asked my friend what she thought about her fries. Damn, he was really thinking about them fries. Like, they must've been good as hell if the next day he was like, hey, girl, so.

• 28:37Speaker 03

  Heavy on the mind. Heavy on the mind.

• 28:40Laci Mosley?

  How you feel about them? Let's talk about the fries. Hey, I'm gonna FaceTime you about the fries. Like, okay. So they talked about the fries. She said they were good, but she believed the workers at the food truck might have taken her card information. I was like, why? Hell. And she was like, someone used my card to buy fifty dollars worth of stuff at Walmart. And I was like, oh, that sucks. But deep down, I didn't want to believe it. Damn, them fries must've been good if you was willing to ignore fraud. You were like, nah, there's no way that these delicious ass fries robbed you.

• 29:11Speaker 03

  No, never.

• 29:14Laci Mosley?

  Never, not these fries.

• 29:18Laci Mosley?

  Yum yum bitch, okay, I love it. Thankfully, I paid in cash for my food and was willing to go back to the truck and pay with cash again because the fries were that good. So listen, Kiki said, look, I don't even care if they over here robbing people. The fries are good and I've been there, Kiki. When I was in college, there was a hot dog man who used to make hot dogs and he put this barbecue crack sauce on them. And we would come back from the club, from a party, he'd be out on the street and making these hot dogs. And eh, he had like eight kids, like no lie. And I remember one time, he was like, oh, can I have your number? And I was like, damn, this hot dog is so good. I gave that man my number and then I woke up the next morning. Why did I do that?

• 29:58Speaker 03

  Why did I do that? Absolutely.

• 30:03Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, those hot dogs were hidden. If you went to the University of Pittsburgh, you know the hot dog man on Oakland Ave. You on the south side, you know. I was like, yeah, you can have my number. You deserve it. What else you want? My credit card? Like, you can have whatever you want. We good. Like, eh, they were good, Dexter. They would.

• 30:22Speaker 03

  Hey, I can relate. I can relate. Back in my college days, back in, eh, wh- wh- whenever they were.

• 30:34Laci Mosley?

  Back in my number, whenever they were.

• 30:39Speaker 03

  Um, but there was this one spot called Chicken Express. To be honest.

• 30:44Laci Mosley?

  I know Chicken Express.

• 30:46Speaker 03

  You know what I'm saying, but for some reason, after a nice college moment, a cute college party, Chicken Express is the best thing.

• 30:55Laci Mosley?

  They got that white gravy.

• 30:56Speaker 03

  It's that white gravy and that damn sweet tea. It's that white gravy and that damn sweet tea.

• 31:01Laci Mosley?

  You taking me back. My leg is shaking.

• 31:05Laci Mosley?

  That white gravy, dipped that chicken in the white gravy, no, oh, don't do this to me.

• 31:09Speaker 03

  Cause they don't season it on the chicken. You can't have chicken that's dry. You can't have it. Can't, cannot do it. But you put it in that gravy, all is well with it.

• 31:18Laci Mosley?

  All good. It's anti-black. You gotta have seasoned it. It's just, it's what it is. So, they were like, I'm gonna go back to the truck. I don't care. Like, that's my man. I'm gonna stick beside him. I'm gonna stick beside him. And I love that. So, they were supposed to show up the next day and I was ready to go order, but when I went outside, there was no food. Truck in sight. And I know I did a weird comma there, but there was no food truck.

• 31:41Speaker 03

  It's okay. It's okay. I, I received it.

• 31:44Laci Mosley?

  That's when I realized that they probably did use my friend's card info, because why would they just not show up when they were scheduled to show up? Anyway, if they did use people's card info, I think it was messed up to take a bunch of broke college students' card info. Here's a picture of what the fries looks like, because I always take pictures of my food. I'm gonna show this to you and we'll put it on the, oh damn, hold on.

• 32:05Speaker 03

  Oh.

• 32:07Laci Mosley?

  Let me see if I can get into like, really, cause I'm using my.

• 32:11Speaker 03

  I can see.

• 32:12Laci Mosley?

  Can you see that? Oh my god.

• 32:15Speaker 03

  What's like, what's the stuff on top of it?

• 32:18Laci Mosley?

  That's scallions. Them scallions. Ooh.

• 32:22Speaker 03

  Ma'am, come on surf and turf in a different way.

• 32:25Laci Mosley?

  And these curly fries, and the curly fries look seasoned. Look at them fries. They dark-skinned. Look at that. They seasoned.

• 32:30Speaker 03

  Oh yeah, they got that little, that hue, that hue to it.

• 32:34Laci Mosley?

  And they done put some kinda, some kinda, oh, is that a sesame seed on top of there? A damn sesame? Oh my god.

• 32:41Speaker 03

  Wow.

• 32:43Laci Mosley?

  Oh, they busted.

• 32:44Speaker 03

  No one, no wonder she was throwing her friend info on them.

• 32:50Laci Mosley?

  She said, y'all want my friend's card info again? Y'all want my friend's card info again? Cause I ain't giving it to you, cause I just.

• 32:55Speaker 03

  Remember, I'm just giving y'all cash, so don't come for me. I'm giving y'all cash.

• 32:58Laci Mosley?

  But y'all want my friend's driver's license photo? I, I took a picture. I give it to you.

• 33:03Speaker 03

  I give you her, I give you, I give you her ATM pin, all of it.

• 33:08Laci Mosley?

  Anything you need. Y'all, y'all got the fries though? Scratch it. Y'all got the fries though? Like, oh man, them fries look good. I won't lie. I might, I might get scammed to go back and get some more of those fries. They was busted.

• 33:19Speaker 03

  I mean, I, I'll join you. I will join you. I will join you.

• 33:23Laci Mosley?

  I understand. I agree with you. I sympathize. Like, I love you.

• 33:27Speaker 03

  But I also understand.

• 33:30Laci Mosley?

  I'm not mad at it, but yeah, like guys, when you go places, you have to be very careful about your credit card information, but also just be vigilant of your card, because you can't stop people from taking your card information, like they do it at the gas station. Like you always need to check and like, put your hand, like if you go to a gas station, you should always put your hand on the card receiver, try to pull it, try to see if anything comes out, because a lot of people will slide like little copiers into the gas station. It's the most common place that they get your credit card info, but you just have to be careful. And like, yeah, if they get you like, hopefully you have a petty ass bank like Dexter's this like, you don't live in Santa Monica, you don't like pressed juice.

• 34:09Speaker 03

  A hundred, a hundred dollars?

• 34:11Laci Mosley?

  A hundred fifty dollars, like we could see you getting one pressed juice, like, cause you be out here dancing and stuff, so we know you athletic. But a hundred fifty dollars worth of pressed juice, nigga, we know you, we know you don't do that.

• 34:23Speaker 03

  He's like, you a big dude, so it's fine, like.

• 34:26Laci Mosley?

  It's not even about being big, I think it's just like, they was like, you ain't never, Dexter.

• 34:32Speaker 03

  You do your little, you order your little vegan stuff from DoorDash or whatever, but like, you know. Not no fresh juicer.

• 34:41Laci Mosley?

  You got twelve Carter Mom apple juices? No, we know this is not you. But hold on right now, immediately.

• 34:48Speaker 03

  They got, they, they got nine green juices, that ain't happening, that ain't happening. Even though, when I was recently in Australia, um, they would bring this green juice, and I'd be like, oh, this one slaps, they put the right amount of apple and the right amount of.

• 35:04Laci Mosley?

  Australia, come on Australia, down under.

• 35:07Speaker 03

  Aussie, Aussie, Aussie, oil, oil, oil.

• 35:09Laci Mosley?

  Aussie, Aussie, lice a disc. So.

• 35:12Speaker 03

  What could she hear?

• 35:14Laci Mosley?

  That's all I know how to say, and somebody from Australia was like, I ain't never heard that, and I'm like, lice a disc.

• 35:22Laci Mosley?

  And, uh, more accents, this guy, this guy's episode is about accents, uh, me doing terrible ones. Robbery!

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• 37:32Laci Mosley?

  And it's time for historic hoodwist. Today, guys, we're talking about Dana Lawrence. Who's a woman who's known by over a dozen names in a dozen states. We love a switch up. We love a different name.

• 37:48Speaker 03

  I was like, but that name Dana Lawrence sounds familiar. Do I know this?

• 37:51Laci Mosley?

  You might know Dana Lawrence. You might know her because she was getting around town.

• 37:57Speaker 03

  Well, let's get into it. What's, what, what did Dana do?

• 38:00Laci Mosley?

  So this is Dana. Ooh, she got a good scammer face because it's hella forgettable. This is literally every Kappa Kappa Gamma at every college around the country.

• 38:11Speaker 03

  Every tried out, every tried out.

• 38:13Laci Mosley?

  Right. This is like, we want to go any pie. We wanted to da da da. Like, it's like, Dana, I love your face because it's hella forgettable. Like rob everybody. Like, this is the most generic neutral face.

• 38:26Speaker 03

  Secure your bag. Secure your bag.

• 38:28Laci Mosley?

  Dana, love this for you. And a name like Dana, you can run it up. Love this. So she has a penchant for seducing men before taking what she needs from them and ditching the state with her children in tow. Over the course of her career and being on the run for 14 years, she swindled tens of thousands of dollars from unwitting victims. Real hot girl shit.

• 38:49Speaker 03

  Like, period.

• 38:51Laci Mosley?

  Period.

• 38:54Laci Mosley?

  Love this. Say you want to manage with the new body. Except for it was like the new name. You want to manage with the new Dana? Like, what's the, what's the new name Dana? Love it. Love this. So Dana Lawrence grew up in St. Augustine, Florida. Of course she did because Florida, chef's kiss. You know, for America, the scammers go, it's like, Brooklyn. Delicious. Brooklyn is like our Silicon Valley of scams. And then I think a close second is obviously Florida because the Florida man, come on now, they out here wilding.

• 39:27Speaker 03

  Anywhere in Florida, anywhere.

• 39:29Laci Mosley?

  Embarrassing for us as a country. Love it for them. Um, I don't know what the third spot would be. It probably would be Los Angeles.

• 39:37Speaker 03

  I don't know. I wouldn't say LA.

• 39:40Laci Mosley?

  I feel like we're just gonna be getting caught. What would you say? I'm just talking about the continental US. I'm not factoring Nigeria. I'm not factoring. Because really that's where like everything was perfected, like kings.

• 39:55Speaker 03

  I feel like it's somewhere in like Arkansas.

• 39:57Laci Mosley?

  Oh, Atlanta. You know what it is? Is New York, Florida, Atlanta.

• 40:04Speaker 03

  Notice, notice.

• 40:05Laci Mosley?

  Florida's a state, Atlanta is a city.

• 40:08Speaker 03

  New York is a city and a state, but you said Brooklyn. So you said two cities and the whole state of Florida, which is honestly very accurate.

• 40:15Laci Mosley?

  The whole state of Florida. Brooklyn, all of Florida.

• 40:18Speaker 03

  Florida, though. I love Florida. I love Tampa and I love Miami. I love both. But gotcha.

• 40:25Laci Mosley?

  Like, we know what they doing. We know what they doing. And I love it for them. I love it for them. So her child was somewhat tumultuous. She gave birth to a baby girl as a teenager and through her child, though her child was adopted, she never graduated from high school. She then went on to have a brief marriage in Provo, Utah, before bouncing from city to city, eventually landing in New York City where she realized her true potential as a career con artist. Love that for you, sis. Come on, self-actualization. Your career is crime. Love that. So.

• 40:54Speaker 03

  It's the Provo, Utah for me.

• 40:57Laci Mosley?

  Right. Would you make Mormon for a little bit?

• 41:00Speaker 03

  It was, it's the training grounds of Provo, Utah for me.

• 41:05Laci Mosley?

  Did you get with Joseph Smith for a second? And he was like, I'm good. Like, what happened? So her first con in 1996 involved a student from a wealthy family named Chris. Of course, his name was Chris.

• 41:18Laci Mosley?

  She began a relationship with him, which ended as quickly as it began, though Dana continued to stalk and harass Chris and his family. Damn, Dana. You was like Monica, like you was gonna pull up to the house and slap your chick, tell them Monica not having it, tell them Dana not having it. Like, that's, that's what you were doing, Dana? You was stalking?

• 41:36Speaker 03

  She said, I'mma pull up. I'mma pull up and that's what it's gonna be.

• 41:40Laci Mosley?

  She was waiting outside his house like the NYPD. Like, you got donuts? You got binoculars? Anytime anybody buys binoculars, you should know they about to do crime. Ain't that many people bird watching.

• 41:52Speaker 03

  First of all, kudos to you for correcting the pronunciation midway because I would have still said binoculars.

• 41:59Laci Mosley?

  Binoculars.

• 42:00Speaker 03

  Binoculars and ambulance, ambulance and binoculars.

• 42:05Laci Mosley?

  We love a scambulance, we love an ambulance. Yes, so Dana also discovered that she was pregnant and eventually gave birth to a girl named Kennedy, so this is probably Chris's baby. She then moved to Orlando, Florida where she committed credit card fraud, had one night stand with a bartender named Kevin, and subsequently became pregnant with her second daughter, Avery. Damn, Dana, you fertile. Damn.

• 42:27Speaker 03

  No, it's, it's literally like she has a kid as she levels up her scamming. Once she gets to the next level of scamming, she has to get another child to reinforce said scamming. She has to have another excuse.

• 42:45Laci Mosley?

  I guess, she's like, I gotta feed these kids. So robbery. Love that.

• 42:51Laci Mosley?

  We've talked about that so many times on the show. What would you do if your son is at home, crying on the floor? You know, because he's hungry, you know, because you gotta scam. You guys set it off. I need that money.

• 43:06Laci Mosley?

  That's my favorite part.

• 43:11Laci Mosley?

  I need that money. Dana said, I need that money.

• 43:19Speaker 03

  That interpretation was spot on. Oh my god.

• 43:24Laci Mosley?

  Deep cut. If you know, you know. So she took off with Avery and Kennedy, her kids,

• 43:30Laci Mosley?

  to Indiana where she met a man named Bill who loaned her five grand to start her own cleaning business. Okay, now she's cleaning. Dana ran off with the children again and Bill's money to Massachusetts. Bill followed her and discovered that Dana was pregnant with his son. God damn Dana.

• 43:45Speaker 03

  I told you, when she completes another scam, another child shall come arrive. Like, it's, it is like clockwork. It is literally her, that's her M.O., that's her modus operandi. So if she had another kid, she just finished the scam. See, that's where they missed it, right there.

• 44:04Laci Mosley?

  That can't be the wrap up to your scam is creating life, sis. Have you heard of low estrogen? Have you heard of like, goddamn Yasmin? You know they name them up to bitch.

• 44:15Speaker 03

  What's, what's the one with the no hormones and the old girl from, uh? What's her name? What's her name? What's her name?

• 44:21Laci Mosley?

  Have you heard of I U D's? Like, oh, I don't know what, what is shit screen girl slang is she got, she got a little coochie pill for us? I didn't know.

• 44:29Speaker 03

  Oh, my God, the ad is perfect. It's so good. You have to see it. She's in her vagina and she's letting you know what the situation is.

• 44:38Laci Mosley?

  She's in her vagina?

• 44:40Speaker 03

  It's like this beautiful pink lounge. It's so cute. It's so cute. And then all of a sudden, but when she, because if the, the premise is you only need to do this one when you getting ready for the good, good. So you don't even have to take it like on a daily basis. It has no, no hormones. I can't, it starts with a P. I want to say it starts with a P. I can't remember.

• 45:05Laci Mosley?

  Sexy, yeah.

• 45:06Speaker 03

  Sexy. There we go. There it is. See?

• 45:08Laci Mosley?

  Oh, she is in a vagina. We'll post this on the episode. She's in her vagina. Like, I imagine that's what my vagina looks like. Pink, great decorations, you know?

• 45:18Speaker 03

  And then, and then to get you got you though, when she's ready, she comes out with this like gorgeous little like gold like jumpsuit and she scoops out of her vagina to go get her good, good.

• 45:33Speaker 03

  On a scooter.

• 45:35Laci Mosley?

  On a scooter?

• 45:37Speaker 03

  On a scooter. When I say scoot, she actually scoot. So she said, no sexy, no nothing. Give me my kid. I'm ready for my next scam.

• 45:48Laci Mosley?

  Get it.

• 45:49Speaker 03

  No sexy, no sexy.

• 45:51Laci Mosley?

  So despite Dana's constant betrayals, Bill moved his life to Rhode Island to settle down with Dana and her family in two thousand and three. Though that relationship eventually fell apart, Dana must have had a good, good. She got people across the state lines chasing her down. She stole this man's money and he was like, wait for me.

• 46:07Speaker 03

  Wait for me.

• 46:09Laci Mosley?

  Nah, girl, we in love. I'mma raise these kids like they my own. Where they come from? Several states?

• 46:14Speaker 03

  I'm still, I'm still stuck on, wait for me.

• 46:18Laci Mosley?

  He ran after. He's like, hold on, hold on. I'm coming with you. So in two thousand and four, while still in Rhode Island, Dana made her first major mistake when she made friends with a woman named Lydia, who she proceeded to scam out of nearly twelve thousand dollars. You don't scam a Lydia. Lydia sounds so dangerous.

• 46:32Speaker 03

  See, you've been scamming men and now you scamming a woman?

• 46:37Laci Mosley?

  Men are a scam. You can scam them. Women? Nah, you gonna make the penny jump out. Lydia? Her name was Lydia? And you thought she wasn't gonna get her coins back? You're crazy.

• 46:47Laci Mosley?

  That's like scamming a bitch named Susan. I don't fuck with Susans. They're scary.

• 46:50Speaker 03

  It's like, it's like Lydia would have been Karen, but Karen, you know, is the perfect description of what a Karen is.

• 46:57Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, Lydia knows when to chill.

• 46:59Speaker 03

  But a Ly- but a Lydia knows, especially when you trying to fuck up her money. She knows. And you got, and, and, and you not, and here we go.

• 47:10Laci Mosley?

  Lydia got four cousins who are lawyers. You don't fuck with Lydia. Like, she's gonna get the bag.

• 47:16Speaker 03

  What, what, what, what happened with Lydia? What happened?

• 47:18Laci Mosley?

  So Lydia had loaned Dana a small amount of money and a credit card, thinking it was an emergency and Dana would pay her back from a family trust. Shortly supported by documentation Dana had given her. So she, she, she got on Word, she got on Photoshop. She was like, oh, here's the paperwork. Like, I got a family trust. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, she, the, the paper's still hot from FedEx Kinko's. And she done printed it out and was like, it's legit. No. Okay. So soon after Lydia gave Dana the money, another woman from Rhode Island approached her, saying that Dana had scammed her and that Lydia should watch out. Lydia went to the accounting firm, printed on the letterhead of Dana's, like, letter that she had given her as proof of inheritance.

• 47:58Laci Mosley?

  She discovered that no such accounting firm existed. Duh. It was like inheritance.com, uh, inheritance incorporated. Family money dot org.

• 48:08Speaker 03

  I feel like the situation is at the point where like, you know, she got to scam all these men'ses because they wasn't checking documentation.

• 48:17Laci Mosley?

  No.

• 48:17Speaker 03

  You bring your documentation to-

• 48:19Laci Mosley?

  She said, get a bucket and a mop.

• 48:21Speaker 03

  Bring this fraud's documentation to Lydia, she is gonna check that on sight.

• 48:27Laci Mosley?

  On sight. Okay, Lydia is petite with a capital T. She want her coins. Also, guys, this is just a lesson. Like, if anybody tells you they need money, but they got money, they lying. They lying. I'll say it one more time. They lying. Why you need money if you got money? Why you need taxes and fees if you got a million dollars? Think about it. They're lying.

• 48:53Speaker 03

  Lying god.

• 48:56Laci Mosley?

  Right. Say it like Viola Davis. Lying. My client.

• 49:00Speaker 03

  You're lying.

• 49:03Laci Mosley?

  Truly, so Lydia immediately filed a police report on Dana. But by then, it was too late, Dana had moved on to her next con. Damn, Lydia, you gotta be quicker than that.

• 49:12Speaker 03

  See, that's thing. She didn't have no kid. So, the, the, the, the scam got messed up. I told you, it's a process. It's a process.

• 49:22Laci Mosley?

  So, abandoning her children.

• 49:25Speaker 03

  Oh, and that was the, and that was the, and that was it. And that was it.

• 49:30Laci Mosley?

  She said, fuck them kids. She punted them kids. That's not right. That's wrong. So, her next target was a man.

• 49:37Speaker 03

  Miss Karma said, let me into the picture now.

• 49:40Laci Mosley?

  So, her next target was a man named Ben, a soldier in New York, whom she convinced to shelter her from her abusive boyfriend in quotes, because there was no boyfriend. She just made it up.

• 49:50Speaker 03

  Not a service, man.

• 49:51Laci Mosley?

  She was getting on the phone, talking about, ah, no way for the grit. Ah, no grit, not the grits, like, and there was no.

• 49:58Speaker 03

  She's just, she's just getting, she's just getting lackadaisical now.

• 50:02Laci Mosley?

  And abusive relationships are not funny. They're not funny. I'm not trying to make light of that, but I am saying that this woman made up a fake abusive boyfriend, which is insane. So, she told Ben.

• 50:14Speaker 03

  What happened after that?

• 50:16Laci Mosley?

  So, Ben was eventually deployed to Afghanistan, and Dana was, like, she wasted no time using his credit cards and his apps. As soon as she got deployed, she was like, baby, here's a picture of me to put in your wallet when you're out there, you know, doing America's dirty work. And, um, I hope you get back safe. I'm perfe every night. I'm gonna send you letters on a million pictures of my pussy in, in, in the US Postal. Um, and then as soon as he left, she was like, okay, Visa, American Express, Discover, I'll allow it. And started using his card. So, his family noticed the fraudulent activity, but when police came to question Dana, she had fled to Canada with her three children, Avery, Kennedy, and Harper,

• 50:58Laci Mosley?

  while also pregnant with another child. Who was she for?

• 51:03Speaker 03

  Uh, what I tell you, every time she

• 51:06Laci Mosley?

  How do you have time to be robbing people with all this labor? Like you are giving birth like every other day, like sis, how you doing all these robberies?

• 51:13Speaker 03

  It's, it's literally part of her, it's part of her process. And if she can't, you see, they, she started messing up when she didn't have a kid. So she was like, well, let me go back to having a kid, even though I left my kid.

• 51:25Laci Mosley?

  It's like cathartic. She's like, how you gonna be mad at me? I'm your baby mama. But is that how she getting out of it? Like she's like, hey, I'm your baby mama.

• 51:34Speaker 03

  The, the kid is probably like, well, she got some more money now, I guess we good.

• 51:40Laci Mosley?

  So this is Four Keys Now by four different men. So after the birth of her son, Jackson, I love that name for a boy. Um, Dana tried to flee back to the United States, but by that time she had felony warrants out for her in the state of New York. When she reached the Canadian border, she was stopped, arrested and sentenced to two years in prison for theft and grand larceny.

• 52:00Speaker 03

  So when you had grand larceny, so?

• 52:04Laci Mosley?

  Grand larceny, like fat joy, but yeah, you know, this is, she's a white lady, like come on now.

• 52:11Speaker 03

  The, the, the scam continues.

• 52:13Laci Mosley?

  Now she got four baby daddies. The only reason I would say like, please don't send this woman to prison is like, who gonna raise these kids? Like all of her baby daddies are spread out through the continental US. Where y'all shipping the kids through the mail? Like where are the kids going? I don't know. So she was put on nine years probation and made to repay forty seven thousand dollars. Her son, Jackson, was put up for adoption and her other children were separated from her. When Dana was finally released from prison, her children's fathers would not allow her to see them. So she took her daughter, Kennedy, back from her sister and fled her probation to Chicago. Dana continued to use Kennedy like a prop, often passing her off as a niece to garner sympathy from people wanting to offer help. So she'd be like, oh, I'm just raising my niece cuz my sister got hit by several buses.

• 52:57Laci Mosley?

  Like, um, yeah, it was like a bus convention and they just kept running over. I saw it all with my own eyes. And then I, I, now this is my niece and I take care of her and I'm staying beside her. You know, like she making up stories to get coins and sympathy.

• 53:12Speaker 03

  If y'all can see my face right now, child.

• 53:16Laci Mosley?

  She's like, my sister got hit by a plane. No, she wasn't in a plane crash. She got hit by a plane.

• 53:23Speaker 03

  She was waiting on the tarmac as it landed and got hit.

• 53:28Laci Mosley?

  And got hit by the plane, you know?

• 53:31Speaker 03

  No air traffic controller in sight.

• 53:36Laci Mosley?

  Why was she on the tarmac? Listen, don't worry about it. Don't worry about all that, sweetheart.

• 53:39Speaker 03

  She got hit by the plane.

• 53:40Laci Mosley?

  She got hit by the plane. And now I'm raising her kids. So what of it? Okay, I'm a saint. Love this. The kid's like mommy. She's like, yeah, yeah, she call me mommy now because you know, Auntie Plane Murder.

• 53:57Laci Mosley?

  You are full of shit. And I love it.

• 54:01Speaker 03

  Dana, child.

• 54:03Laci Mosley?

  Right. Dana. In Chicago, she scammed a stockbroker and his family by convincing them to donate over seventy-two thousand dollars to a fake nonprofit organization and charity. When US Marshals came looking for her, over the money, she fled to Miami, where she stole another twenty-eight thousand dollars from a nonprofit where she had found a job. Way to turn nonprofits into for-profits.

• 54:26Laci Mosley?

  It's gonna be a nonprofit for your organization, cuz I'mma take the.

• 54:29Speaker 03

  Honey, if this ain't the textbook definition of a narcissist.

• 54:35Laci Mosley?

  Oh, yeah. She's psychotic. So abandoning Kennedy. So this is her last daughter that she holding on to. This is her daughter niece, her niece daughter.

• 54:45Speaker 03

  The only one she could get access to.

• 54:47Laci Mosley?

  Right, cuz the rest of them men were like, give us, run us the babies, and you can never speak to them again. So although Dana and Kennedy briefly moved away from Miami, they ended up having to come back when police became involved in one of Dana's new relationships. Dana managed to land a job at Kennedy's school in the financial department. Now, a woman like this don't even be nowhere near a finance.

• 55:06Speaker 03

  Where is her movie? I think this movie to be out right now.

• 55:10Laci Mosley?

  Right now. Why y'all got her near a finance or a department?

• 55:17Laci Mosley?

  Sis don't need to work nowhere where coins could be encountered, cuz she is a thief thief.

• 55:22Speaker 03

  Is this one, uh, what's that show on Netflix? Jenny and, uh?

• 55:28Laci Mosley?

  Oh, Jenny and, oh, my friend Mike writes on that, um, Jenny in Georgia. Thank you Judith, Judith just stepped in.

• 55:36Speaker 03

  Jenny in Georgia, down baby.

• 55:38Laci Mosley?

  Boots, boots. So Dana managed to get this job, right? She told Kennedy it was time to go on the run again, but at this point in her life Kennedy was now thirteen and had followed her mother from state to state, barely understanding why they always had to go by a different name, why they had to move houses every few months and why she always had to leave her friends. So now Kennedy's getting petulant. She's like, shut up mom, I don't wanna rob another bank you bitch, I'm going to my room. She was like over it.

• 56:08Speaker 03

  Tell the truth of it all, tell the truth of it all.

• 56:11Laci Mosley?

  She was like, I ain't going on no more heists hoe, like she's like, going home. I ain't mad at Kennedy, she ain't signed up to be a criminal, you gotta wanna be a criminal. I don't want to place criminality on people, that's not fair.

• 56:24Speaker 03

  Ocean's a lot, Ocean's eight to list that, if some girl, and they, if some girl thinking of they scam, but it was not Kennedy.

• 56:35Laci Mosley?

  No, Kennedy said, I'mma, I'mma head out. She was like, I don't wanna do this no more. I don't wanna do this anymore, I don't wanna rob another man.

• 56:49Speaker 03

  The remix is so much better.

• 56:50Laci Mosley?

  Every time I walk out the door, we're caught up in another scam.

• 57:01Speaker 03

  I saw that when, I saw where that one was going, I was like, I got it.

• 57:03Laci Mosley?

  Right, just like, I don't want another stepdad, I don't wanna take away his life, I don't wanna be a scammer.

• 57:15Laci Mosley?

  I don't wanna be a scammer.

• 57:19Laci Mosley?

  I don't wanna be a scammer, she's like, I don't wanna do it, no more, okay?

• 57:24Speaker 03

  I don't wanna be a scammer no more.

• 57:27Laci Mosley?

  Right, like, I don't wanna be a scammer no more. I'm tired of doing constant running out the door, like yes, like love it, love it. So delicious. So she was tired of the constant running and told her mother she wanted to stay. Dana said okay and left her in the empty Miami house while she ran to Savannah, Georgia.

• 57:47Speaker 03

  I quit.

• 57:50Speaker 03

  I Dana, go to jail, go to jail.

• 57:56Laci Mosley?

  Then it's like, okay, you don't wanna, you don't wanna come, okay.

• 57:59Speaker 03

  You ain't about this life, good to know, stay your ass at this house.

• 58:04Laci Mosley?

  See ya.

• 58:07Speaker 03

  That I paid for with fraudulent funds, good luck, okay.

• 58:11Laci Mosley?

  She was like, mom, mom. She was left, how you gonna head out on your kid, how you gonna be like, alright, I'ma head out, like, what?

• 58:22Speaker 03

  Wow, I did not expect to hear, I mean, I'm not surprised, but just how immediate, how immediately she said.

• 58:33Laci Mosley?

  With the deuces, like, no.

• 58:37Speaker 03

  At the house that is paid for, that fraud built.

• 58:43Laci Mosley?

  That's fraud built, the house that fraud built, this is so disrespectful to your child, you are a bad mother, and like, listen, I know all types of people listen to this podcast, some of y'all have relationships with your moms, some of you have good ones, bad ones, maybe your mom's no longer with us, like, I, you know, maybe your mom was trash, like, I'm not trying to trigger you, like, I honestly, like, I'm laughing, but I'm not, the situation actually isn't funny for the child, but it's hilarious to me that the mom was like, I ain't bet later, like, nigga, what, like, this your, this your last kid, they took the rest of them away from you, and you gonna dip on the last one? She was standing ten toes down for you, she was riding, dying, you were like, oh, you getting off the ride, alright, bet, I'm going to Savannah, see ya, like, she disappeared, she faded out like they know.

• 59:27Speaker 03

  And you know she didn't tell her, you know she didn't tell her not one word.

• 59:31Laci Mosley?

  So eventually Kennedy ran out of money, cuz duh, like, she's a child, like, you know, some children are employed, but not all, and.

• 59:40Speaker 03

  Not a thirteen year old who out here scamming.

• 59:43Laci Mosley?

  She ran out of money and had to call the police, which led her back to foster care and living with her aunt, so also wild to me that, like, you run out of money, and you're like, hello, nine one one, I'm broke.

• 59:55Speaker 03

  That, that's, that's one way to do it.

• 59:58Laci Mosley?

  Should we, listen, the police ain't shit, should we all be calling them and be like, hello, nine one one? I ain't got the light bill.

• 1:00:06Speaker 03

  I don't have it, I don't have it.

• 1:00:08Laci Mosley?

  They about to turn my gas off, ma'am, this is not an emergency, yes, it is, I ain't about to have no heat, so what's, what can y'all do for me?

• 1:00:17Speaker 03

  How can we work this out?

• 1:00:19Laci Mosley?

  Like, see if it works. So meanwhile Dana continued to scam her employees running off with thirty thousand dollars in Miami to flee Asheville, flee to Asheville, North Carolina. So she's still stealing large sums of money. I will say this about Dana, she got self-esteem. Cause she ain't stealing, she ain't waking up and stealing for less than twenty thousand dollars a day. Like she's like, if I'm gonna rob you, I'm gonna rob you. I'm gonna take a twelve hundred dollars. I'm not taking fifty dollars.

• 1:00:44Speaker 03

  All your money is mine.

• 1:00:47Laci Mosley?

  Give me the money. I want all the money. Yes, thanks there. So Dana reen- Dana reenacted her earlier relationship pattern. She began a relationship with a man named Matt. One thing Dana gonna do is get fertilized.

• 1:01:01Speaker 03

  She has to complete the scam.

• 1:01:04Laci Mosley?

  She gonna have a baby. Like I feel like Dana's almost like a serial killer where they keep trophies, but after every scam she get a baby. She's like, this baby remind me of this robbery.

• 1:01:13Speaker 03

  That is the modus operandi.

• 1:01:16Laci Mosley?

  So getting caught. Uh Dana's final days of freedom came when she tried to scam the wrong woman. See Dana, you know that you live in the realm of scamming cis het men. Why are you scamming women? You know that's not your bag.

• 1:01:31Speaker 03

  Like you said, she got self-esteem and confidence.

• 1:01:34Laci Mosley?

  But it's like, leave the women alone. We pettier. These men, at least you got a baby by all of them. You like trying to put your baby mom in jail? Trying to put your baby mom in jail? Like at least you got something on them. Women, they don't care. They could put you in jail. What are you doing? So in fall of twenty sixteen, she offered her services as a grant writer for Nashua, Nashua's mayor office in Nashua, New Hampshire. Kim Kleiner, the mayor and chief of staff, looked forward to having more help. Kleiner said she seemed excited and seemed capable. She was very smart. Yeah, she's all of those things. She's capable of robbing you. So she was found to try to get access to these banks, right? Kleiner described the situation. She said she wanted to know what account the money had to go into and how it worked, who accepted it, information.

• 1:02:16Laci Mosley?

  And I was like, you really don't need to know that. When denied, Dana supposedly broke down in an emotional bizarre scene. She was like, I need to know where that money is.

• 1:02:28Laci Mosley?

  What bank do y'all use? I got kids. I mean, this is irrelevant, but it's just really, it's just really upsets me that y'all don't trust me enough to tell me like where the bank is at and like what's the, the safety.

• 1:02:41Speaker 03

  Oh my god.

• 1:02:43Laci Mosley?

  And give me a key.

• 1:02:47Speaker 03

  Oh, lawn.

• 1:02:48Laci Mosley?

  What? So, for Kleiner, this was the last straw. Okay, so she made the weird scene, right? Then Kleiner eventually told Dana that her position at the mayor's office wasn't working out, to which Dana responded with threats against Kleiner's family. So, Kleiner was like, hey, you know, you crying about us not giving you the banking information, very weird, I just feel like this is not a good fit. Kleiner was like, I'll kill you and everyone you love. And she was like, okay, that was a lot. Um.

• 1:03:19Laci Mosley?

  Feels like an escalation, I'm firing you, you're talking about murdering my family, you're like, I know your grandma live in eight two four porch lane bitch, she getting it tonight, like, this feels like a lot.

• 1:03:31Speaker 03

  Honey, she got cocaine.

• 1:03:34Laci Mosley?

  She said, I'll kill everybody, everybody you love. So, on May seventh, twenty twenty one, she called her friend in the FBI, Agent Mark Hasselbeck. How you got so many friends on the FBI?

• 1:03:44Speaker 03

  First of all, how has this woman been? I'm done. Um, that, that is a Hasselbeck, if you ever seen one.

• 1:03:53Laci Mosley?

  That's a Hasselbeck.

• 1:03:55Speaker 03

  That's a Hasselbeck, if you've ever seen one. But this woman been scamming to actual twenty twenty one.

• 1:04:03Laci Mosley?

  Twenty twenty one, the year of our Lord, twenty twenty one, through the pandemic, through COVID, didn't stop her back.

• 1:04:09Speaker 03

  The money she got from the pandemic, Lord only knows.

• 1:04:14Laci Mosley?

  I'm sure she had a COVID testing center, I wouldn't put it past Dana.

• 1:04:18Speaker 03

  Yo, I'm not gonna lie, I, I definitely should have, I, I definitely should have mentioned this earlier, but one of them testing sites definitely scammed me. Should have known, when they brought out the nasal swab, brought out the nasal swab.

• 1:04:34Laci Mosley?

  It was a Q tube.

• 1:04:34Speaker 03

  Didn't have a test, no, it was a normal nasal swab, but they didn't have another test tube to put it in. She put it back in the envelope, that she got.

• 1:04:44Laci Mosley?

  The envelope.

• 1:04:45Speaker 03

  Back in the little thing, uh, for the, that you put, that you pulled the nasal swab out, a nasal swab out, came back two minutes with a, with a COVID test that had it circled, talking about, yeah, you need to take some Eusten X, you're just fine.

• 1:05:05Laci Mosley?

  She swiped your nose with a Q-tip and put that shit in a Smart and Final bag and said,

• 1:05:12Laci Mosley?

  "You good?"

• 1:05:13Speaker 03

  Might as well.

• 1:05:14Laci Mosley?

  That'll be fifty dollars.

• 1:05:17Speaker 03

  Might as well. Oh, I can't believe I forgot about that one.

• 1:05:22Laci Mosley?

  Damn. And I'm talking about fake COVID testing centers on this podcast. Damn, they got you. I hate to see it, but also I love to see it. Hilarious, but also bad. Also bad.

• 1:05:34Speaker 03

  Also bad.

• 1:05:35Laci Mosley?

  Also horrible.

• 1:05:37Speaker 03

  If, if you do test positive at an actual testing center.

• 1:05:42Laci Mosley?

  Lord Jesus. They was just doing vibes. They was just like, "Yeah, you feel like you have COVID." No, that one looked like he got it.

• 1:05:49Speaker 03

  But no, you know what, you know what she did? She killed Wakata. She was like, "Guys, you don't have it. I just want to let you know you're fine. Everything's fine. It's okay."

• 1:06:00Laci Mosley?

  Disarmed you. Disarmed you.

• 1:06:02Speaker 03

  She disarmed it. And then when I went to another testing site, it was a different story.

• 1:06:09Laci Mosley?

  Right. Something that actually was legit. So Kleiner that called her homeboy Mark Hasselback and was like, "Hasselbacka." So not even Hasselback, Hasselbacka. Um, and told her about Dana. So she called the F to be in the I. She didn't even go to the popo. She said, "Let me call, hello, government? Hello, F to be in the I. Yeah, y'all my..."

• 1:06:29Speaker 03

  Federales. Federales.

• 1:06:31Laci Mosley?

  Federales.

• 1:06:34Laci Mosley?

  So Hasselbacka accompanied a local police officer to Lawrence's home where she was hiding in the basement. So Dana then hid in the basement because she knew they was coming for her. When Dana was taken in for questioning, she initially claimed to be Jenna Kaplan and that she was on the run from her abusive ex. So the fake ex who abused her came back up.

• 1:06:53Speaker 03

  Wait, have we gone through all of her names yet? Have they listed all of those yet or no?

• 1:06:57Laci Mosley?

  They have not. She had a lot of names. I don't know what they all are, but she was Jenna at this point. So her real name eventually came out along with a string of fifteen aliases and dozens of scams across sixteen states. Do we not have her aliases? Because I really want to know what they are. The ones that we know of are... Miranda Matthews, Genevieve Morgan, Jenna Kaplan. Um, she was using the surname Lauder. I feel like this is like that DMX song with like, it was Keisha, Tisha. Wannisha. It was Cookie. I met her at an ice cream parlor. Like, I feel like she was listening to DMX is what they really want. It was like writing down the names like, okay, Keisha. And then Cookie Ice Cream Parlor Johnson.

• 1:07:42Speaker 03

  Did I read that right? Get out. When she used the surname Lauder, she said she was the heir to the cosmetics company Estee Lauder.

• 1:07:51Laci Mosley?

  To the heir of Estee Lauder. She said, yeah, I'm, uh, I'm Jenny Lauder from Estee Lauder.

• 1:07:58Speaker 03

  Wee, I'm French.

• 1:08:00Laci Mosley?

  I'm, I'm wee wee bitch, I'm a war. Okay, uh.

• 1:08:09Laci Mosley?

  Said, nigga, I, I, I'm Tim Apple. I made the iPhone. You want a thirteen? Fuck with me. Like, I love this for her. And I'm so proud of her for all these fake names. Like, this is wild. So.

• 1:08:21Speaker 03

  She is the lauder for me. Like, if I'm the heir to Estee Lauder.

• 1:08:27Laci Mosley?

  Estee Lauder. It's, it's, it's Lauder. That's how you say Lauder. So, when she was taken for questioning, she says, you know, the fake name, they figured out our fake names. Still, she was only charged with one count of identity fraud connected with using Massachusetts resident of Massachusetts social security number on an apartment cap, like, application. The rest related to her many suspected crimes which were past the statute of limitations. Dana pleaded guilty at her sentencing. Her daughter Kennedy requested to give a victim's impact statement saying, this is her daughter. I think that using a fake social security number is like stealing a piece of bubble gum compared to everything else that she's done. Oh, my god. Her daughter don't like her, which makes sense.

• 1:09:09Speaker 03

  Well, her daughter's over thirteen in twenty twenty one now.

• 1:09:12Laci Mosley?

  Right, and she left her in a house with no money. She was like, lock this bitch up and throw away the key, okay? Uh, where are the handcuffs? They left. She was like, lock my mama up.

• 1:09:25Speaker 03

  Might as well give her a gavel.

• 1:09:27Laci Mosley?

  She said, lock my mama up. Lock her up and don't let her out. Don't let.

• 1:09:32Speaker 03

  I said what I said.

• 1:09:36Laci Mosley?

  Damn, not your own kid, goddamn. She was released on probation in August 2018 with specific stipulations that she can't engage in any other volunteer activities that would give her access to other people's personal information. Her daughter Kennedy believes her mother is still a threat. She said she's already back on Facebook saying she's a grant writer. She has these credentials and graduated from Harvard. Total lies, damn, your kids even know this way shit, that's bad. Your kids do not like you. They said, I don't know her, never met her. My mother, I was in her womb, never been in her womb, don't know what it looks like.

• 1:10:11Speaker 03

  They said, they said, uh, if you can deny us, we can deny you.

• 1:10:16Laci Mosley?

  Oh, petty, alright guys, it's time for scammer of the week. When YouTube streamer Valkyrie, Valkyrie, excuse me, first announced the Reflect skincare line, the products were met with much excitement. So, this is, we'll see if we like this scammer, if we don't, like, we just, you know, we'll see where we feel. Like, the line was meant to offer protection for gamers against blue light pollution. Don't know what that is, but sure, let me put it on my skin. At first Valkyrie swore that there was valid research involved, but couldn't share that, what, like, what that research was, which is very common, because people will be like, it's a secret formula, Krabby Patty, can't tell ya, you might steal.

• 1:10:57Speaker 03

  The, the skin cast jams of, of these late times, Dorito is.

• 1:11:04Laci Mosley?

  Just the best. So Reflect initially claimed that the blue light could cause skin damage by shrinking cells and accelerating aging and causing redness. Reflect used to release their own studies fearing that other companies would steal research for their own profits. So they were like, okay, so we did a study, it's just like how the police be like, we investigated these bad officers. Nigga, how you gonna investigate yourself?

• 1:11:25Speaker 03

  We have a task force on it, we have a task force.

• 1:11:28Laci Mosley?

  Internal affairs, that, that's too internal for me. And that, like, why can't I go to court then and be like, I investigated myself and it turns out I ain't do nothing wrong? Like, let's all investigate ourselves then.

• 1:11:40Speaker 03

  I investigated myself.

• 1:11:43Laci Mosley?

  I looked into me and it turns out I'm all good, like, what?

• 1:11:51Laci Mosley?

  I asked me a lot of questions and it all checked out. Story sticks. What?

• 1:11:57Speaker 03

  It all came back in the clear for me.

• 1:12:00Laci Mosley?

  You cannot investigate yourself. Like what? So the claims were later watered down to vague statements and inconclusive evidence after the company subtly changed Reflex's website with new information in light of backlash, Valkyrie recanted a lot of the support for the company. Part of the scam also hinged on inflating fears over the harm of blue light, which though can damage the eyes over prolonged periods like staring at screens and stuff, it's not nearly as dangerous as viral marketing has led people to believe. They're like, blue light, shrivel you up, you look like the old bitch in Titanic.

• 1:12:33Speaker 03

  Here's the thing, here's the thing, if you can't be in the sun and you can't be inside, what, where are you supposed to go?

• 1:12:42Laci Mosley?

  Where are you supposed to go? Where the hell can you go? Ultimately, the brand was shut down less than two weeks after its launch and unfortunately Valkyrie was likely another most innocent influencer caught up in a scam having failed due to her due diligence. So Valkyrie is an influencer, she was standing by this product and was like, rub this on your skin if you playing video games. Before you put on more to combat, rub this creams on because the blue light is gonna make you old. I mean, look.

• 1:13:10Speaker 03

  Try to moisturize your damn scam and you'll be fine.

• 1:13:14Laci Mosley?

  Right. At least if the moisturizer was moisturizing, then people are getting moisturized. And it's like, did you really lose that much? Like, blue light? Like, we believe so much shit that they just be telling us, like, that's my favorite thing is like GMO free shit or like gluten free shit when like advertisers be like, this water is GMO free. It's like, I think that's how water work. This water ain't got no gluten in it. That's how water is supposed to have no gluten. It's not wheat, it's water. Okay. Like, you're like, what? This water ain't got no parabens. Yeah, it shouldn't. That's like something they put in like lip b- lip balm. Like, what, what you mean?

• 1:13:50Speaker 03

  Like, it make it make sense. Just make it make sense.

• 1:13:53Laci Mosley?

  Or when companies start advertising like, made with real meat. It's like, what was it made with before? Like, why you telling us it's real meat now? This is confusing.

• 1:14:02Speaker 03

  Because it wasn't.

• 1:14:04Laci Mosley?

  McDonald's chicken nuggets, all chicken now.

• 1:14:08Speaker 03

  All white meat now. All white meat. What was it before?

• 1:14:11Laci Mosley?

  What was it before? It was a little bit of toe jam and whatever, we can really scrape up. Like, what?

• 1:14:19Laci Mosley?

  I mean, we all know FDA approval is a scam. They just be paying the FDA and FBI be like, "Yeah, it's lit." And then you see a commercial at 3 a.m. like, "Have you taken Xantac or you have a loved one have now gotten cancer?" Turns out FDA was like, "Just playing. Xantac's bad." Like, what? So, it is what it is. But guys, we reached the end of the episode.

• 1:14:40Speaker 03

  Whoever got that check ready, whoever got that check ready is approved.

• 1:14:44Laci Mosley?

  This is a fun one. Thanks for sticking with us, guys. As always, we like to ask on the show, Dexter, where would you like to be found? Anything you want people to see? Any place you want people to follow you? Anything like that?

• 1:14:57Speaker 03

  Um, I am Dex, at Dexrated on both platforms. I think Twitter, there's like a dash. Um, and even if you migrate to, like, the Facebooks, just type in my name.

• 1:15:11Laci Mosley?

  The Book of Faces.

• 1:15:13Speaker 03

  The Book of Faces. There's a check on my actual profile, so if you don't see a check, it ain't me. So, um, yeah. Hopefully got some things I can tell you about later, but can't tell you about them right now, because NDAs are great.

• 1:15:31Laci Mosley?

  Yes, well, follow, so you can see when those NDAs, Statue of Limitations, are up. Guys, as always, Scam Goddess Pod on all platforms, if you want to see all the photos that we've been talking about during this episode. And if you want to follow me, D I B A L A C I D, Velaci on all platforms. Guys, podswag.com/scamgoddess. Get that merch before I switch it up. You know, I like to keep the tricks guessing. All episodes of I Carly are streaming now on Paramount Plus. I don't have a season two date yet. Stop asking. I will tell you when I know. All episodes of Black Lives Sketch Show, season two, are streaming now on HBO Max. And, uh...

• 1:16:02Speaker 03

  And they all so good.

• 1:16:04Laci Mosley?

  Thank you. Congregation, stay scheming.

• 1:16:12Laci Mosley?

  This has been an Earwolf Production in association with Team Coco. Scam Goddess stars and is hosted by me, Lacey Mosley, AKA Scam Goddess. It's produced by Judith Cargvo, engineered by Marina Faiz, and researched by Kalen Brandt. Stay scheming.

• 1:16:29Laci Mosley?

  This has been a Team Coco production.

• 1:16:32Speaker 00

  In association with Earwolf.

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