Fraud Friday: The AristoCON w/ Mitra Jouhari

In this week's Fraud Friday, Laci is joined by Mitra Jouhari (The Big Sick, Three Busy Debras) to discuss Christian Gehartsreiter aka Clark Rockefeller, who spent 30 years passing himself off as an educated, wealthy aristocrat while taking advantage of people. Plus, three political operatives are accused of defrauding $3.5 million from PAC scams. Stay Schemin’! (Originally Released 01/03/2022) CON-gregation, catch Laci's TV Show, Scam Goddess, now on Freeform and Hulu! Order “Scam Goddess: Lessons from a Life of Cons, Grifts and Schemes" here: Hachette Book Group Follow on Instagram: Scam Goddess Pod: @scamgoddesspod Laci Mosley: @divalaci Mitra Jouhari: @mitrajouhari Research by Kaelyn Brandt SOURCES: https://media.vanityfair.com/photos/54cc01740a5930502f5f4667/master/w_1600,c_limit/image.jpg https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2008/08/08/the-little-town-and-life-rockefeller-left-for-fame/l20Zs5ZzVbgic07Sf0MB6M/story.html https://www.standard.co.uk/hp/front/the-four-faces-of-rockefeller-6910914.html https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/10/us/politics/pac-operator-charges.html?searchResultPosition=3

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• 0:03Speaker 00

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• 2:29Laci Mosley?

  What's poppin', congregation? It's your girl, Lacey Mosley, AKA Scam Goddess. Welcome to an episode of Fraud Fridays, where we release older episodes from the Scam Goddess Vault. That's right. Fraud Fridays is where we bring back your favorite episodes from behind the paywall. Enjoy this episode from behind the paywall. And as always, stay schemin'.

• 3:11Laci Mosley?

  What's poppin', congregation? It is I, Lacey Mosley, AKA Scam Goddess. Welcome to another installment of Scam Goddess, where we praise charlatans, criminals, phlegm flammers, boondoggleers, all of those and above. Or maybe we don't. We'll see. Today, I'm very what? Yes, excited. I'm trying to switch up the intros for y'all. Do y'all like this ASMR? I know y'all don't like when I chew, so I'm not gonna do that to the girls. But I don't know, write in, let me know. If I change my voice like this, would you hate me? Anyways, I'm very excited for today's guest. I truly am. I know I say that all the time and y'all be thinking I'm lying, but I'm not. Because today, we have a talented comedian and writer on the show. She's the co-creator, co-star, and co-writer,

• 3:54Laci Mosley?

  all the co's of three Busy Debras on Adult Swim. Season one is out now on HBO Max, and the second season will be out in 2022. So go ahead and binge it and get ready for it. Also, she co-hosts the podcast on my sister network. Sister network, I guess we're all on the same network. Look at this, it's falling apart. Urgent Care, Urgent Care on Earwolf, which is such a funny podcast with Joel Kim Booster, who you guys know, who's already been on the show and killed it. Congregation, please welcome Mitra Jouhari. Hi, Lacey. Hello. I'm gonna stop talking like that now, because I feel like people are gonna turn it off. They're like, bitch, what the fuck? I just be trying to do- Something different.

• 4:36Laci Mosley?

  I'm so happy to have you here today. I love when we get a great podcast. This is a great podcast and also a writer and also comedian and a stand up and an actress. Bitch, what don't you do? Are you tired? I'm tired for you.

• 4:50Laci Mosley?

  You ever read somebody bio, you be like, damn, so you just don't be sleeping at all?

• 4:54Speaker 06

  I feel that way about you.

• 4:58Speaker 06

  Busy.

• 5:00Speaker 06

  But but enough time for the nails to match the walls as I saw during the intro.

• 5:06Laci Mosley?

  No, I need to get these hoes redone. Yes, I do love a claw, honey. I love a claw. Uh, but Mitra, I have to ask you up top, what is your relationship with scams? Do you like them? Do you hate them? You want to fight them?

• 5:19Speaker 06

  I, okay, I really gave this a lot of thought because I was listening to the podcast to prepare and I was like.

• 5:25Laci Mosley?

  Come on, a prepared queen.

• 5:26Speaker 06

  Prepared. I especially enjoyed the um Naomi Paragon episode. You guys talking about Showtime dancers was like really making me laugh.

• 5:37Speaker 06

  I've I have not yet seen a an LA Showtime. I mean, Naomi like can do anything and make me laugh, but.

• 5:44Laci Mosley?

  Truly same. Also, she be having me telling all my business, which I don't appreciate. She's like a therapist. You've been talking to her and next thing you know, you'd be like, so yeah, the first time I stole. And I'm like, wait a minute.

• 5:53Speaker 06

  I know you guys went so deep on your massage.

• 5:59Laci Mosley?

  Deeper than the masseuse did, child. Way deeper than he did. But yes, what did you come up with when you were thinking about scams?

• 6:07Speaker 06

  Okay. I, for me, it's sort of a two way street because I feel very like trusting and like very sort of open and I I really believe I believe in people. So I am ripe for scams as in one week ago, I clicked on one of those links. It's like your password or whatever. And I clicked on it and yeah, and and that was really dumb. So I I I am ready to be scammed, but I do feel. Also, like, I really celebrate a scam. I love a scam. I do a scam. I, I think my, my, my, like, clearest that I thought of was, um, in college. So I went to school in Ohio and I really wanted to move to New York. I really wanted to

• 6:51Speaker 06

  work an intern for late night, but I also really, really wanted to drop out of school, which I did, but I, so I-

• 6:58Laci Mosley?

  You did? Oh, my gosh. I'm so proud of you. You left the scam of university.

• 7:03Speaker 06

  Well, I, and in the best way possible, which is I, I went to school for free and then I dropped out. So there was, nothing was lost in the process.

• 7:11Laci Mosley?

  Hell, yeah. See, that's how you drop out of school. Okay, don't, you don't gotta pay them bitches back. Cause I can imagine if I dropped out of school and them bitches was like, "Hey, we still need some coins for that meal plan." No, bitch, I don't go there no more. I don't know you. We broke up. That's how I feel about student loans. Bitch, we broke up. I left college. What you talking about? Pay you. No, I don't know you no more. You know how I am. Well, yes. So you left in the, in the most beautiful scammy way you left school.

• 7:37Speaker 06

  Left school, but first, so I got the internship. You had to be enrolled in school to get the internship. Got the internship and then a day later dropped out of school. So that I-

• 7:48Laci Mosley?

  Very smart.

• 7:49Speaker 06

  So I had something to do when I got there. So that was like-

• 7:51Laci Mosley?

  You still had an EDU email?

• 7:53Speaker 06

  I still had the EDU. Yeah. I'm sure the EDU is still out there somewhere, uh, collecting dust, but I, I did, I got the thing. So that was like the clearest scam that I could think of that worked. Um, but I'm not like, I think I'm just like not savvy enough, but I feel like I, I like really like relish in like your like Anna Delvies or like the people who really scam like Richie Rich, like, uh, like society girls. I think that's kind of my favorite. And like the Housewives universe. Like, I feel like that to me is like a world full of scammers and people who are scammed. That whole, that whole community to me is like all fraudulent. And I really love them. I give them a lot of my time.

• 8:35Laci Mosley?

  Right? It's the scam of personality with them because I, you know, I'm a sell and sell that hoe.

• 8:41Speaker 06

  I love Selling Sunset.

• 8:43Laci Mosley?

  I love Selling Sunset. I love watching gentrification in real time. There was an episode where they were like at this forty dollar mansion and that was being built on like new property. And they're like, the street name is Pinto. That's just, it's not giving what we need for, to sell this forty million dollar house. Pinto, which is a Spanish word. So they were like, we're gonna change it to Hummingbird Lane. I said, no, they didn't. I just watched gentrification in front of my very arses. Oh my god.

• 9:10Speaker 06

  They, and like, it is the most like uncanny, like, imagine having any of those conversations. Like if you were like with one of your best friends and you're just sitting there and you're like, how are you? I'm good. No, seriously, like, I'm good too. Like, I'm like, have, like, I'm like, having, like, and it's like, that's it. They're like just saying like the same phrase over. You're good? That's so good. I'm so glad you're good. I'm good too. No, you're good? That's great. I'm good too.

• 9:37Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, I'm good too. Except for there's just been some drama. Like I saw a beautiful white lady cry about something so inconsequential. And I was like, I love this. Like, I wanna cry about dumb shit. I'm tired of crying about real pain, bitch. I wanna cry because I, I got to Whole Foods and they ran out of oat milk. I wanna cry about that.

• 9:59Speaker 06

  Intergenerational, first generation immigrant trauma who, I'm crying about coffee.

• 10:05Laci Mosley?

  Right. Starbucks missed my order again. And I wanna have a breakdown. I wanna have a minty bean.

• 10:15Speaker 06

  What a dream. What a dream. Instead of paying hundreds of dollars a week for my therapist to tell me, yeah.

• 10:20Laci Mosley?

  Same.

• 10:22Speaker 06

  It's gonna, it's gonna stay sad.

• 10:24Laci Mosley?

  And I have a black lady therapist, so we just be commiserated sometimes. It's like, yeah, it's just hard out here. I'm like, damn, like, what the hell? But I also wanted to say that I would really love to start a career singing on Sunset. Sunset. Because you know how, I think they have one lady who sings all the songs. And the songs are just like, I'm living my life. I am alive. My boobs are fake. Don't give me shit. I am a queen. It was like.

• 10:49Speaker 06

  Sun is shining, have some fun.

• 10:52Laci Mosley?

  Literally. It's like cocktails in the afternoon.

• 10:57Speaker 06

  Run my car with the top down. Girls in the backseat living my life.

• 11:02Laci Mosley?

  Literally the transition music like bitch what?

• 11:07Speaker 06

  Dream job and they're all like 10 seconds long. You don't have to flesh out an idea. No chorus. It's all vibes.

• 11:13Laci Mosley?

  Girl, that's what I'm saying. It's all vibes. Like, look, I know y'all doing the pop thing, but if y'all ever want to mix it up and do some like fake Doja Cat or like some like, let me get in there like. Wonder what it's like selling this house tonight. You know, like, let me get in there. Yeah, yeah. Whoa, whoa.

• 11:28Speaker 06

  Hot heels in the dirt. Walking around with the shortest guys.

• 11:35Laci Mosley?

  With the shortest guys. And that's a scam too. How these two little, little, little baby sized men who, you know, look, nobody gets to choose they height. Okay? I'm 5'9". I chose my height. I don't care what y'all say. I don't care what the photos say. I'm 5'9" and y'all know this. But these two little men, they gathered up a harem of bad bitches.

• 11:57Speaker 06

  Just hot women.

• 11:59Laci Mosley?

  Aggressively hot women. Like, and you can tell that like, look, if y'all in the service industry and you doing bottles or whatever and you're aggressively hot, maybe get your real estate license because I just feel like there's a place in real estate for really, really bad bitches where you could start making like even more money than you make right now. Cause all of them women have, they get, they give like, we used to be bottle service girls before we got into real estate. It's just the tiny tattoos, like, you know, a little star behind the ear.

• 12:26Speaker 06

  That like middle, like top of spine tattoo. I'm like, I think that's also why I like gravitate to this show is because I'm like, all these women have like been through something.

• 12:38Speaker 06

  Like every now and then I'll like forget about Chriselle's life and then there'll just be this moment where she's like, yeah. And it like reminds me of like when my whole family was sleeping in one car and I'm like, right. Oh my God.

• 12:49Laci Mosley?

  Right, right. You have been through some shit. But it's the scam of personality. Imagine coming from a different socio-economical position, like arguably a lower one, or at least financially, and then making it to the point where you're hobnobbing with billionaires and you're making all this commission off of them. Like that's a scam. Like that's a scam of personality. When you, I think being a housewife is such a beautiful scam. Cause it's like you woke up and you were like, I am too sexy to pay for things.

• 13:18Laci Mosley?

  And I love that.

• 13:19Speaker 06

  I love it.

• 13:20Laci Mosley?

  I'm tired of buying my own things. I'mma go to the gym some more.

• 13:24Speaker 06

  I don't need to do that. I don't need to do that. There is someone who will do that for me.

• 13:29Laci Mosley?

  And I love it. I love it just being like the ghetto, us buying things for ourselves. Like, go off, queens. We love it. But yes, I like, okay, so I like your, you like to watch the scams. You're like a voyeur for the scams. But I will say that you said you weren't savvy. I think it's very fucking savvy to be like, I'm gonna drop out of college, but I know that they want this EDU email, so I'mma, I'mma give it a couple more days.

• 13:53Speaker 06

  I think I'm savvy in that way. Like, I, I think like, none, none of the scams in my life are like, cool, but they like, they work.

• 14:01Laci Mosley?

  I would argue that's pretty damn cool because you are a very talented and established, successful writer and creator. And you knew college was not where you needed to be, robbing you of your time and your genius.

• 14:12Speaker 06

  Thank you.

• 14:13Laci Mosley?

  I love that for you.

• 14:16Laci Mosley?

  Well, let's get into our first segment here. Like, I know y'all did not just talk about Selena's set for five minutes. Yes, we did. And what about it?

• 14:22Speaker 06

  And we got a record deal out of it, so. Laughing all the way to the bank, bitch.

• 14:26Laci Mosley?

  Right. Wait till you hear our voices on the, on the, uh, fourth season, okay? Living my life. Y'all better get ready.

• 14:34Speaker 06

  I want a full, like, like, I want us to make an album that is 300 tracks and they're all five seconds long, just like four sentences each.

• 14:43Laci Mosley?

  Incredibly specific. Having a dog birthday party.

• 14:49Speaker 06

  I'm the one with the brown hair.

• 14:52Laci Mosley?

  So hard having brown hair.

• 14:57Laci Mosley?

  Like, let us have this. Y'all know we need to have this. Well, guys, we're gonna take a quick break for some non-scam advertisements.

• 15:09Speaker 00

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• 16:19Speaker 04

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• 16:35Laci Mosley?

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• 17:33Laci Mosley?

  And we are back. We're gonna go ahead and get into it with our first segment here. Right, literally. What's hot in fraud? This is where we warn our listeners about a popular scam and the zeitgeist. Or more often than not, we get a listener letter from you guys as always. Snitch on your friends and family at [email protected]. Just make sure that your scam is retired because we don't want to what? Yes, fuck up your bag. So today, I need to fake name me Tru for, we don't care about gender, for this wonderful person.

• 18:07Speaker 06

  Okay, um, let's do Chrishell.

• 18:10Laci Mosley?

  Chrishell, yes, yes. Keep it in the, come on. Chrishell, keep it in the real estate family. Living our lives, doing a podcast. Y'all gonna hate me by the end of this. I'm so sorry. Okay, so, oh, you said some nice things up top, Chrishell. Yeah, I'm not gonna read it, but I do say thank you. I appreciate you. So, so boom. First of all, I love a, I love a story that just starts with, okay, so boom. Like, yes, you know it's gonna be tasty. Okay, delicious. Okay, so boom, I decided to have a little personal reflection time, if you catch my drift. Oh, what was you doing? It had been a long day and I needed a break. I wanted a little something different, so I turned to Beyonce's internet for inspiration. This is so vague, but I think I know what this is.

• 18:54Speaker 06

  Is it, okay.

• 18:56Laci Mosley?

  Me trying to be better in 2021. What'd you say?

• 18:59Speaker 06

  Are they jerking off?

• 19:00Laci Mosley?

  Yes, yes. They're doing, we call it home passion on this podcast. They're doing their home passion.

• 19:10Laci Mosley?

  Sometimes you gotta do your home passion, okay?

• 19:15Laci Mosley?

  Sometimes you gotta be your own lover. Sometimes you gotta look in the mirror and be like, I wanna be your lover. To yourself.

• 19:24Laci Mosley?

  Literally, and sometimes I do be the only one, so. So far, I'm into it.

• 19:31Speaker 06

  Where is the merch?

• 19:34Laci Mosley?

  So me trying to be better in 2021, decided to actually pay for the content that I watch. Sex workers deserve their coins. Amen. Yes, they do. I found what I thought was a free trial on a site. Now you said you was gonna give them some money. You looking at a free trial. Oh, no.

• 19:52Speaker 06

  I'm gonna give them some money, but only after. Only before the 30 day trial.

• 19:58Laci Mosley?

  In the 21 days.

• 20:00Speaker 06

  Only if I forget to send the alarm on my calendar.

• 20:02Laci Mosley?

  Right. Cause I love a 21 day free trial, cause that's a scam. Because when you look at 21 days, it's like the 99 price mark. You look at 21 days, you're like, oh, I got a month. No, you don't have a month. You have three weeks. But by the time you get to the end of the month, you'd be like, damn. 21 days is up. That was brilliant. Whoever decided 21. Very cute.

• 20:23Laci Mosley?

  It's just like, oh yeah, you can have a free trial for nine days. How long is nine days? Bitch, that's less, more than a week, but less than two weeks, huh? Small business owners out there, do a nine day return policy.

• 20:35Speaker 06

  Make it an amount that no one can do the math in their head.

• 20:39Laci Mosley?

  You have 94 hours to return. Bitch, what?

• 20:44Speaker 06

  You have exactly 67 minutes to try out Peacock for free.

• 20:50Laci Mosley?

  Like what? I'm trying to watch a movie. That's as long as that. Nah, I'm 67. You better get to it.

• 20:56Speaker 06

  You're welcome for 67.

• 20:58Laci Mosley?

  Come on, Peacock needs these subscribers.

• 21:02Laci Mosley?

  I'm into it. Paramount, let's do that too. Let's also do that. So they, they said, you know, they, they were gonna get the free trial, right? So I found what I thought was a free trial site, but I had to input my credit card info. Okay. You know how that goes. I've done this before with no repercussions. It's so long as you cancel before the trial runs out, which, Chriselle, you said you was gonna pay the sex workers. That don't sound like you was gonna pay them. It sound like you was gonna cancel. I did it without thinking too much and immediately Bank of America said, no, girl. I took that as a sign. I just need to take my tired ass to bed. Damn. So you, after that, she was like, you're not gonna make love to yourself? You turned over and didn't make no love to yourself? Wow.

• 21:44Laci Mosley?

  If I was yourself, I'd be upset. I'd be like, we can't, okay. Just go to the free trial, alright.

• 21:49Speaker 06

  You're worth it, babe.

• 21:50Laci Mosley?

  You're worth it. Make love to you. But Bank of America is like that because I have some homegirls who are on OnlyFans. And I remember at Christmas, I was like, let me go and just like, I wasn't gonna watch the content because it was like the homies, like, but I was like, let me just put a little coin in there, you know, to support. It was like mid pandemic. I was like, let me just go ahead and get on OnlyFans and do my Christian duties.

• 22:14Laci Mosley?

  But Bank of America really does not play when it comes to like, uh, any sex sites. They'd be like, oh, girl, we know this isn't you. You don't have sex? This is where you start fucking?

• 22:24Laci Mosley?

  You stick to the rivers and lakes you're used to, bitch, because Bank of America will not fund this.

• 22:30Speaker 06

  Mine, mine, I always get, like, if I try to buy something nice, it's like, no.

• 22:37Speaker 06

  No, you're not. I tried to get like, a nice, like, blazer and my card got shut down. They're like, you're buying a blazer, bitch? No, you're not.

• 22:47Laci Mosley?

  To where? To where? To where, Mecha? We know what you do for a living.

• 22:51Speaker 06

  We know what you look like. We know how you dress.

• 22:54Laci Mosley?

  You be dressing cute, but they was like, you don't be wearing no business attire. What the fuck is you doing in Ann Taylor Law? Get out of there.

• 23:00Speaker 06

  Nice choice, lot.

• 23:03Laci Mosley?

  Go out and take your ass back to Shen. And quit playing with us.

• 23:10Laci Mosley?

  So a few days later, I saw this charge from a weird website. I looked at the website and found the owner to be some dude named Terrance in Florida. Wow, you really out, Terrance in Florida. You have to put his government in here, but we don't got his last name. It's cool. I thought I was a, I thought it was fraud, but I wanted to wait until the charge process so that I could file a dispute. Once it was processed, I called the number on the charge and they were really, really sketchy. They wanted my card number, my name, and other information I would not give them. I come from a family of lawyers, in parentheses. I filled out a dispute. Later that day, Bank of America said, no, girl. Damn, Bank of America just saying, no, no, no, no, no. We ain't giving you money, money, money, money. Like, they not giving you money ever, damn.

• 23:55Laci Mosley?

  Are you sure it's Bank of America?

• 23:59Laci Mosley?

  They do have to give you your money. Like, they can't always say no, but okay. So Bank of America said, "No, girl," to another charge from a different sketchy website. Eventually, I realized that I had been scammed and that my card info had been disseminated to dozens of adult websites that I never visited. Hmm. Wow.

• 24:18Speaker 06

  Damn.

• 24:20Laci Mosley?

  Damn. So, basically, he went to one sketchy website and then, and there are so many legitimate, like, options for porn that I'm like, what website were you on? Like,

• 24:34Laci Mosley?

  booty dot VPN dot,

• 24:39Laci Mosley?

  dot mo daddy.

• 24:40Speaker 06

  There's a lot out there.

• 24:44Laci Mosley?

  There's a lot of porn sites. I just feel like you gotta go to the main ones. I don't, I'm not gonna, you're not gonna catch me on something that's not a pretty mainstream. You know, if Tyga hasn't rapped about it, I'm probably not gonna go on that site.

• 24:56Speaker 06

  If I, if I don't see, like, an alt comedian wearing it on a shirt.

• 25:02Laci Mosley?

  Then I'm not going. If they don't have merch for the site, I'm not going.

• 25:06Speaker 06

  I want a des- a dedicated merch store.

• 25:12Laci Mosley?

  Well, your porn site is so big that people are like, "Yes, I would like to wear that across my chest out on the streets. I would like a mug." Sip from it and think about it.

• 25:21Speaker 06

  Then I will be subscribing.

• 25:22Laci Mosley?

  Yes, absolutely. So it says on the end here, "Please warn the girls, the gays, and the daze. Only provide your credit card to reputable porn. That's what the kids on TikTok call it. Don't get caught up like me. And yes, I know I was dumb for this, lol. Sincerely, Chriselle." Okay, I'm not gonna call you dumb. You, now, I am gonna say you was scamming us talking about you wanted to support the sex workers when you know you was gonna cancel that free trial and not give the girls a single ducket.

• 25:49Speaker 06

  And I, look, I love, we've, we've expressed that we love a free trial, but it is not in line with your mission statement.

• 25:57Laci Mosley?

  It's not adding up. It's not your mission statement. It's not really, the resume not adding up to that, like, the cover letter ain't really giving what the resume giving, like, it's not adding up. Oh my god, do people still, uh, in like nine to fives, like, do they still do cover letters and, and resumes?

• 26:16Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 26:16Laci Mosley?

  That's ghetto. I'm not writing you a letter to get a job, bitch. I barely want a job. Give me this job or don't.

• 26:22Speaker 06

  Look, I would love to have a skill that would require a cover letter. There's, I can't do anything. I don't know how to do fucking anything.

• 26:29Laci Mosley?

  Our skills are vibes. It's more of a feeling, you know? That's why we show up in person and get on Zoom meetings and shit. It's not an interview. It's just like, what? Do we feel like you could create some scammy content that wouldn't make people entertain? Or no?

• 26:42Speaker 06

  You wanna be in a room with me, right?

• 26:44Laci Mosley?

  Right. You wanna, you wanna, you wanted to have coffee with me? Yeah. You wanna sit in the room and, and, and bounce ideas off each other and put them on a whiteboard? You, you like me enough for that? Cool. Like, mission statements, cover letters. Also, like, that's too much work for a job that I don't have. Like, I'm not even employed here yet. Y'all want me to get on Microsoft Word? The ghetto. No, absolutely not.

• 27:05Speaker 06

  But we're, we're, we are memorizing fifteen pages worth of material for, for nothing also.

• 27:12Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 27:13Speaker 06

  Oh, we're wasting time.

• 27:16Laci Mosley?

  We were talking about that. I had tweeted about that and then, uh, hashtag booked, which if you're an actor, you wanna see like cool, funny content. Shout out to Daniel Pennock. Um, they have a great, uh, Instagram account and they were talking about that, how actors are getting really fatigued with like casting directors. Cause right now, um, I know this might be foreign to you if you're not in this business, but, um, when you're auditioning for jobs, bef, in the before times, B C, before COVID, you would go in person to several different auditions at several different casting locations and hello, hey, hey, going schmooze, you know, suck a little dick and metaphorically, sometimes not, I'm so sorry. It's a bad world we live in. But, um, but, you know, and then you do your audition and you leave.

• 28:00Laci Mosley?

  And that, those tended to be shorter because they could give you adjustments. They could tell you like, oh, it's actually more of a character like this, like read it like this, this time or da, da, da, da. Now, because of COVID, we're all taping our own auditions and now these motherfuckers are sending out movies and TV shows talking about make the whole movie.

• 28:15Speaker 06

  Yes.

• 28:17Laci Mosley?

  Shoot the whole show and then maybe we'll give you a job. But don't worry, it's already in some bigger actress's inbox and we're just waiting to see if she gonna say yes. But you go ahead and shoot the movie though. For free. Or go pay somebody to shoot the movie for you and then you come out of pocket, which is what I do.

• 28:38Laci Mosley?

  I go to a wonderful self tape studio where they charge a lot of fucking money and

• 28:44Speaker 06

  and then it's trash and then you never hear anything. Yeah, and then and then the movie star says, oh, fine, I'll do it.

• 28:50Laci Mosley?

  Literally, the movie star gets an offer, which is what it's called. Sometimes when you get famous enough or people have seen enough of your work, people will just reach out like Meryl Streep's not auditioning to get into another mini series and put in some fake teeth. Like the girls know when to call Meryl and then they call Meryl and they're like, please, Meryl, I'll suck your dick, Meryl. Please do this job for Universal and Meryl's like, mm.

• 29:15Speaker 06

  And while she's mm and ayeing.

• 29:18Laci Mosley?

  You're taping it.

• 29:19Speaker 06

  Hundreds of women are taping.

• 29:20Laci Mosley?

  Hundreds of women are putting on blonde wigs and uh and and doing their best Miranda Priestly. That's all, you know, they sitting there doing the monologues meanwhile.

• 29:33Laci Mosley?

  Meryl over here.

• 29:34Speaker 06

  Three weeks of ums and ahs.

• 29:36Laci Mosley?

  Right. And mind you, she's um and an aye and they're also like, Meryl, we will give you millions and whatever you want. We will build a house for you on the lot, brand new. And she's like, mm.

• 29:48Laci Mosley?

  Like, and you're working your ass off for free. Uh, so that's how it works. That's a part of the industry scam that we live in. Oh, the last thing I want to say about this, and this is not related to acting, but I've been seeing this on Reddit and on Twitter that companies like Applebee's and Chili's and other places are putting out job application notices and saying like, we pay fifteen dollars an hour. And then when you show up, they're like, okay, so we pay eleven dollars an hour. And it's like becoming a thing. I've been reading about it on Twitter and on Reddit, like, and people are posting the actual job postings and stuff because they're pissed. So I'm like, y'all, I don't know, maybe call ahead and see if they lying about their job post because the girls are out here talking about, yeah, yeah, we gonna give you a living wage. Just come on in here and fill out an application.

• 30:32Speaker 06

  That's wild. Fuck that.

• 30:34Laci Mosley?

  They're like, you got the job. It's eleven dollars an hour. You still want it? You just right? Just trying to get them in the door. I'm like, that's so shady. Like we. Like, there's no, like, the people do want to work. People just don't want to be slaves no more. So, the whole branding of, you know, big corporations right now, like, there's a shortage of people in the job market. It's like, no, people don't want to be abused anymore.

• 30:56Speaker 06

  Yes. People want to be able to pay rent when they work full-time.

• 31:00Laci Mosley?

  It's like, oh, y'all want, like, adequate money? Oh, okay, okay. Y'all don't want to have to work three jobs?

• 31:06Speaker 06

  Well, that's not fair.

• 31:09Laci Mosley?

  Where's your American spirit?

• 31:11Speaker 06

  Companies are people.

• 31:13Laci Mosley?

  Oh, God, Twitter. Companies are people.

• 31:16Speaker 06

  Companies are people.

• 31:18Laci Mosley?

  I'm so tired of Twitter and Twitter companies. It was cute at first, but now I feel like they done hired every intern from TikTok. And they're just like, self-care Sunday, get in Target. What?

• 31:30Speaker 06

  I quit Twitter and I feel randomly happier.

• 31:36Laci Mosley?

  Randomly?

• 31:37Speaker 06

  Completely uncorrelated.

• 31:41Laci Mosley?

  I'm like a Twitter, like, I'll get on there in spurts and I'll just be tweeting up a storm and then I'll be gone for weeks.

• 31:46Speaker 06

  That's the way to do it. I was getting mad like 20 times a day and I was like, what am I doing? This is so, I'm gonna be 80 and think about how much time I was being mad at my phone, at strangers.

• 32:00Laci Mosley?

  Have you ever seen the art? Uh, there's some photographer who did photo shoots where he was taking pictures of people on their phones and then he was removing the phone from the photo and post and we all just look insane. It's just people like staring at their hands, like, very aggressively. It's so creepy.

• 32:18Speaker 06

  So embarrassed and I haven't even seen it. I just know, because I know, I know how I look.

• 32:26Laci Mosley?

  I'll try to find some photos for you guys and post them with this episode of the people staring at phones being removed. Because it is, it's kind of dystopian and creepy. I was like, damn, life is bad, huh? And it's time for me to regale Mitra with a historic caper criminal group of criminals. We don't know yet, but we do know it will be fun. I do have a warning, content warning up top here, there will be a mention of a murder. You know, we try to keep murders off of this podcast because that's not our thing. We don't want to hear about nice white ladies being murdered to death. But um.

• 33:06Speaker 06

  No, we just want to hear about them selling houses.

• 33:08Laci Mosley?

  Selling houses. Selling houses, not getting murdered. It's Tuesday.

• 33:17Laci Mosley?

  That's what we want to hear.

• 33:18Speaker 06

  She makes it home, okay.

• 33:25Laci Mosley?

  That's a bop. That's my favorite bop. She makes it home, okay.

• 33:31Laci Mosley?

  I want that for all of you, all of you. It's what we deserve.

• 33:36Speaker 06

  First single of our 900 track album.

• 33:40Laci Mosley?

  It's gonna be a good album, guys, so stay tuned, stay tuned. So today we're talking about Christian Gerhart's rider. Wow, what a last name, won't be saying that again.

• 33:53Laci Mosley?

  So most notoriously known as Clark Rockefeller, spent 30 years passing himself off as an educated, wealthy aristocrat, but underneath his career of charming his way to social clubs, he lied a darker figure, one that would include murder and kidnapping. Ooh, not the napping. So Christian's early life. Christian grew up in Bergen, Germany, and is an awkward fantasy obsessed boy craving a fresh start in a new country. Who called him awkward and fantasy obsessed? Because somebody had to weigh in on that, right? I feel like he wouldn't call himself that. Like, who did y'all interview and they're like, yeah, oh, Chris? Yeah, he was very awkward and fantasy obsessed, constantly writing fanfic, but not for fun stuff.

• 34:38Laci Mosley?

  It was like Margaret Thatcher getting boned and we were like, wow, what is this?

• 34:45Laci Mosley?

  What does that mean? So this is a picture of him. This is Clark Rockefeller in 2008 and this is Christian Karl.

• 34:53Speaker 06

  So, oh wow, huh?

• 34:55Laci Mosley?

  So wait, why are they giving me two different names? Cause this is, okay, so it's the same person, but they're just showing us. So in 1978, how old is this man? Cause he actually doesn't look that old in this 2008 photo.

• 35:06Speaker 06

  That's, I, I didn't want to say it, but I was like, he aged really well.

• 35:10Laci Mosley?

  He a vampire?

• 35:13Speaker 06

  I want to compliment a guy who seems like he's gonna be a villain.

• 35:18Speaker 06

  But I will say.

• 35:20Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, it's getting like, he's getting grown man in 1978. And then like, he's giving like tech startup guy in 2008. And I'm confused because there's so many years in between there. Uh, that's like 30 years. Like, how does he, maybe, maybe the photo quality just wasn't good in Germany in 1978. Cause.

• 35:39Speaker 06

  Yeah, also, I mean, sometimes like, like dorks look old when they're young. As a dork.

• 35:50Laci Mosley?

  Maybe, because I think now that I think about it, my first headshot, I started to look like Michelle Obama. Like, I was like a grown lady.

• 35:56Speaker 06

  I found my senior pictures from when I was in high school. Um, and I was like straightening my hair and doing my eyebrows in this insane way. Actually, I will see if I, I want to see if I can find it.

• 36:08Laci Mosley?

  Oh my God, if you find this, I'll die.

• 36:09Speaker 06

  So bleak.

• 36:12Laci Mosley?

  In the 2000s, I remember the thin brow had a hold of the community. Cause we all wanted to look older. I'm so mad at myself for, I was eight years old, plucking my eyebrows, they never grew back the same. Now I gotta draw these bitches on.

• 36:24Speaker 06

  I know, mine are all patchy now because I fucked them up so bad. And I would burn my hair every single day, just nasty shit.

• 36:32Laci Mosley?

  Anything I could do to look like an old ass lady, I was doing. I think, y'all know on this podcast, I wore suits to school. I just wanted to be an old ass lady, not even like a sexy bad bitch. Like, I was just trying to be fucking Margaret Thatcher. So I don't know why she's on my brain today, but okay. Thinking of you, queen.

• 36:58Speaker 06

  Legends only.

• 36:59Laci Mosley?

  Legends only, honey.

• 37:02Laci Mosley?

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• 39:37Laci Mosley?

  So craving a fresh start in a new country, he showed up unannounced on the doorstep of a Connecticut family that he had met on a train trip in 1978 at age 17. If I meet anybody on the train, which is already one of the scammiest modes of transportation, and them motherfuckers show up at my house? How did he even know where they lived? They must have told him.

• 39:58Speaker 06

  Too trusting.

• 39:59Laci Mosley?

  Too trusting. This is the 70s though. That's when everybody's leaving their door unlocked. He probably didn't have to knock. He just came in and was like, "I live here now."

• 40:05Speaker 06

  They're like, "Great, we've got a room all made up for you."

• 40:07Laci Mosley?

  Sounds good.

• 40:10Laci Mosley?

  You want some 70s food? What were people eating in the 70s? I don't know.

• 40:13Speaker 06

  Tab.

• 40:15Laci Mosley?

  You want some Tab?

• 40:16Speaker 06

  That was my mom's drink of choice. And I feel like she was like the last person to buy Tab. We were having Tab like well into where I was in high school.

• 40:25Laci Mosley?

  She wouldn't give it up. She was keeping Tab open.

• 40:28Speaker 06

  Yeah, she was keeping the lights on at the Tab factory.

• 40:32Laci Mosley?

  They're like, "Guys, we really need to shut down." "No, we have one dedicated customer. We will serve her."

• 40:38Speaker 06

  Joy is thirsty.

• 40:41Laci Mosley?

  But Tab. So he stayed with them for a time and eventually ended up with the nearby Savio family. Now, American Christian modeled himself after the Gilligan's Island character Thurston Howell III, even affecting a similar mid-Atlantic accent and expecting every morning for his breakfast to be prepared and his clothes to be washed. Now, how you moving in with other people's family talking about some, "They gotta work for you"? This is some white man behavior if I've ever seen it. I want this for me.

• 41:14Laci Mosley?

  I want to show up to somebody else's house and be like, I live here now, remember we met on that train? On the Amtrak? Yeah, so I live here now.

• 41:22Speaker 06

  Yeah, we spoke once, so you served me.

• 41:26Laci Mosley?

  You served me, you work for me. I need this laundry done, and who gonna poach these eggs? These are my questions. Oh my gosh, Mitra, this photo. Oh my goodness, come on with this bangang and this straight hair.

• 41:40Speaker 06

  It's so fucked up. Is she not a decade older than me?

• 41:44Laci Mosley?

  She is looking grown, and she's posed out, she's laid out. What were those poses they had us doing in senior pictures?

• 41:51Speaker 06

  So bleak, but so happy. I'll never, that light in the eye, gone.

• 41:56Laci Mosley?

  Spark, that glitter, before I knew the world was fucked, oh man, do miss that glint in my eye. I think they got an app for that now, I just put it back in on Airbrush. I put hope back in my eyes on Airbrush. It works the same. So, he was eventually kicked out when he refused to get up from the couch to unlock the door for one of the family's young daughters. What?

• 42:21Laci Mosley?

  So, they cleaning, cooking for you, and you won't open the door to the house that's not yours?

• 42:28Speaker 06

  For your employee?

• 42:32Laci Mosley?

  Whose house actually belongs to her? Okay, so when he left, he went on to study film at the University of Wisconsin, this time going by Chris Kenneth Gerhart. Shortly after that, he married a woman he barely knew in order to obtain a green card to vote for Ronald Reagan in the 1980 presidential election.

• 42:51Speaker 06

  What a sentence.

• 42:55Laci Mosley?

  You didn't want to be a citizen just so, I don't know, you don't get deported? You wanted to vote for Reagan.

• 43:03Laci Mosley?

  The trap king, and his trap queen Nancy Reagan.

• 43:08Speaker 06

  I believe in Reagan so much.

• 43:11Laci Mosley?

  Now, I'm gonna marry a random ass woman. So I can cast my vote.

• 43:17Speaker 06

  Take a test.

• 43:20Laci Mosley?

  Pledge my allegiance to the flag.

• 43:24Laci Mosley?

  So I could vote for an actor turned president.

• 43:29Speaker 06

  And he studied film also. Massive red flag.

• 43:32Laci Mosley?

  Right.

• 43:35Speaker 06

  As if, as if he wasn't scary enough already.

• 43:38Laci Mosley?

  Any man who's like, I'm gonna study film. I'm gonna know everything about film. That way I can get on Twitter and reply to everyone correcting them.

• 43:47Laci Mosley?

  I'm gonna ruin everyone's fun. That's the major where you wanna ruin people's fun. You're like, y'all enjoying things? Let me tell you why you shouldn't.

• 43:55Speaker 06

  I wrote nine paragraphs on Letterboxd about this, actually.

• 43:58Laci Mosley?

  Did you know this is a Dutch angle? Like, bro, we don't need this. So, once he had his green card in hand, they went through a quickie divorce and he took off for Los Angeles where he once again found a new identity. So, they went through a quickie divorce. Did sis wanna get divorced? Like, was...

• 44:18Speaker 06

  I mean, she got out and we have to celebrate that.

• 44:21Laci Mosley?

  We do. I wish she could've gotten an annulment. I'm so sorry. Like, is there no rule? I don't watch 90 Day Fiance that much. When you get married for a green card, you don't have to stay married for any period of time?

• 44:35Speaker 06

  I have no idea. Maybe it's gotten stricter since this or something. I'm not sure. I feel like, I feel like they're really keeping tabs now. But maybe they were then.

• 44:47Laci Mosley?

  Right. I feel like with 90 Day Fiance, they must've been like, we're gonna keep up with it. So, Christopher Cheechinsh.

• 44:58Laci Mosley?

  Christopher Cheech Chester, named after an old high school English teacher, found his new home in the wealthy suburb of San Marino, 18 miles east of Los Angeles. So now he's going by Chris Cheech. So with his high-class fashion, impeccable manners, and aristocratic accent, Chris was soon escorting the town's elderly widows around, enjoying their big houses and their lavish lifestyles. So now he a gigolo.

• 45:22Speaker 06

  Did he write this? Like, it's like so complimentary to him.

• 45:26Laci Mosley?

  With his nice fancy accent and very sexy he was.

• 45:30Speaker 06

  With his objectively good style and perfect personality.

• 45:35Laci Mosley?

  Above-average penis size.

• 45:39Laci Mosley?

  Who wrote this? Rippling washboard abs?

• 45:44Laci Mosley?

  Are we being scammed? Chris, did you write this?

• 45:47Speaker 06

  WWW dot Chris dot com.

• 45:50Laci Mosley?

  If you want to donate to like, yeah, it feels like I'm working for you now. I think he got me to work for him as well. He came to my podcast and said, I own this now. You work for me.

• 45:59Speaker 06

  Oh, my God. Sirius XM just bought out by Chris.

• 46:05Laci Mosley?

  So he's out here being a gigolo for all the elderly hoes. And you know, I'm not mad at that. You know, everybody needs to get, they lavish. Um, everybody needs to have their home passion. And sometimes you need someone to share it with. So he also started claiming that he was an English royalty. In fact, he said he was a descendant of Lord Mountbatten, the British naval officer and last British viceroy of India, and Sir Francis Cheechester, who was knighted for sailing his ship around the world. You know, when people be saying they was like sailing their ships around the world back in the day, was they really?

• 46:43Laci Mosley?

  How you know you actually made it around the whole world?

• 46:45Speaker 06

  They don't. That's the thing.

• 46:48Laci Mosley?

  Are you just saying that? That feels like a scam. Like, I feel like just because you sailed it and then you came back, we don't know if you just did a little loop-de-loop or some donuts in the ocean and then pulled back up to the coast.

• 47:00Laci Mosley?

  I don't know.

• 47:01Speaker 06

  If you're on your ship for a long time, you went around the world.

• 47:04Laci Mosley?

  You went around the world.

• 47:07Laci Mosley?

  How long was he go? Four months? Okay, that's not about a world's trip.

• 47:10Speaker 06

  He went around the world.

• 47:12Laci Mosley?

  That's not about how big the world is. Yeah, yeah.

• 47:14Speaker 06

  I'm gonna go around this. I'm gonna be on a ship for four months? No, he went around the world.

• 47:16Laci Mosley?

  Right. We just trust him. Just put the sword on him. Put the knight in. What does that even mean, anyway?

• 47:21Speaker 06

  Yeah, give him, give him the ribbon. It's fine.

• 47:23Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. So he became a town darling as a rotarian and member of the city club. What is a rotarian? Okay, so Rotary International is an international service organization meant to draw business leaders to help people. So I guess he was just smoking cigars and getting business people to like, give up their money?

• 47:44Speaker 06

  Rotarian is not a rotisserie chicken.

• 47:49Speaker 06

  Immediately what I thought. Rotary, the guy, the guy who makes the rotisserie chicken.

• 47:52Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, he played Boston Market, which made him famous.

• 47:58Laci Mosley?

  So he even got his own public access television show Inside San Marino. Chris eventually turned his ability to worm his way into anything towards the famed University of Southern California's Film School. So now he's back on his film shit. USC, that's a good place to go talk about films. My man. So Chris's story now was that he was an MFA student in film, which he used to get him in and his friends passes to a USC party attended by a number of Hollywood stars, including director Steven Spielberg, George Lucas, to celebrate the opening of the Marshall Lucas Post-Production Building. So basically, the, the celebrities, the, the Spielberg's, the George Lucas's, they, they threw their coins together and they bought a building.

• 48:40Laci Mosley?

  And then they said, hey y'all, come over here, get drunk, let's celebrate you giving us your money into the university. So he somehow finagled his way into this function. Now he's hobnobbing with Mr. Star Wars.

• 48:50Speaker 06

  This I'm fine with.

• 48:53Laci Mosley?

  No issues. I would, I would do the same. So the Soho's, here we go. While Chris was partying with Hollywood film royalty, he was living rent free in a guest dwelling behind the main house of Ruth Dee Dee Stohaus, known to San Marino as a recluse alcoholic. Okay, that's, that's trash.

• 49:11Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 49:11Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 49:12Speaker 06

  Dark turn.

• 49:13Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, alcoholism is a disease and you shouldn't take advantage of people who are struggling. And that's, that's trash. Uh, but obviously this man doesn't care. He's gonna take advantage of everybody. So friction arose when Dee Dee's adopted son, John, moves back in with his mother along with his wife Linda. So we had to see a picture of John, Linda and four cats and a horse. So in 2009, okay, so this is John and Linda. Linda, this looks like a wedding day photo, but Linda's giving. Was Linda high?

• 49:46Speaker 06

  We're, we're not celebrating in this photo.

• 49:52Laci Mosley?

  Linda's looking like, is it over yet? Linda.

• 49:56Speaker 06

  We're not seeing elation in the photo. We're not, we're not seeing bliss.

• 50:00Laci Mosley?

  Right. Linda's giving, I don't wanna marry my husband. No, no, no, I don't wanna marry my husband.

• 50:10Laci Mosley?

  So in 2009, a 1995 episode of Unsolved Mysteries called San Marino Bones was discovered about the year of 1985 when Chris resided with them. Hmm. So Unsolved Mysteries has pulled up into the chat. Now, we don't know why they pulled up into the chat. We're getting there. But apparently, there is a mystery here that is unsolved. According to the episode, in early 1985, John and Linda told friends they had landed an important job with the US government satellite program and had to immediately leave for New York, but that they would be back soon. Eight weeks later, there was still no sign of them. So remember, things were on the rocks with DeeDee, who has the house and is a recluse

• 50:55Laci Mosley?

  and, you know, but then John pulled up to the scene with his wife now, who's very enthusiastic about love and not, not money. And then all of a sudden, they were like, hey, y'all, actually, we, um, we're going to New York for a very secret mission.

• 51:10Speaker 06

  We're spies?

• 51:11Laci Mosley?

  We're spies. I just got a letter from John and Linda saying that they spies now and don't contact them and they're very much alive?

• 51:21Speaker 06

  No questions asked.

• 51:23Laci Mosley?

  It actually says, don't ask no questions in, in the signature line.

• 51:28Speaker 06

  Sounds good.

• 51:30Laci Mosley?

  What? So eight weeks later, there's no sign of them, but they said, look, we gotta work with the US government. Don't y'all love Ronald Reagan? Anyway, um, have y'all seen that new George Lucas movie? Anyways, don't contact us.

• 51:46Speaker 06

  Seriously, we're busy. We're busy being spies.

• 51:49Laci Mosley?

  The letter was all over the place, guys, but we'll believe him for now, I guess. So the episode depicted DeeDee not giving any information when Linda's sister called looking for the couple and refusing to file a missing persons report. So, all right, we got a clip from the Unsolved Mysteries. Uh, let's see this clip. This is DeeDee, and she was asked questions by the popo and refused to give any information. Uh, when Linda's sister called looking for the couple, and she refused to file a missing person report, because she said, they working for the government. It's a secret. You can't file the report. Remember Ronald Reagan?

• 52:23Speaker 06

  You're gonna blow their cover.

• 52:25Laci Mosley?

  You're gonna blow their cover. They're spies who also like to fight. No, it's not a cartoon. I'm hanging up.

• 52:32Laci Mosley?

  So let's see, let's see what DeeDee's talking about. It was very frustrating in all my conversations with Mrs. Sohlas to get the same stories, slightly altered, but still the same story about Linda and John being on a secret mission. All right, and we'll stop there. Whoa.

• 52:53Laci Mosley?

  She said they're not, I just feel like when the police show up and they're like, hey, do you have any information on these people? If you can't tell people where they are,

• 53:02Laci Mosley?

  and all you got is they're not missing, like, we're putting you in cuffs immediately. What you mean they're not missing? We didn't even say if they was missing. We asked you if you knew where they were. You could just say, I don't know where they are. That's the logical response is, I don't know where they are. You're not supposed to knock on the door, not gonna know. Hey, have you seen Linda and John? They not dead.

• 53:22Laci Mosley?

  What? They not buried in my yard. Stop asking. What? Nobody asked you that. Answer the question you have been asked.

• 53:34Laci Mosley?

  And I love that every time Linda's sister called, the story getting wilder and wilder. So listen, they got on this rocket ship.

• 53:41Laci Mosley?

  They say they gotta go to Mars because they have landslides. Google it.

• 53:47Laci Mosley?

  They told me they was gonna be back. They left a suitcase. Do you want this suitcase? It's green. Anyway, it's like, what are we talking about? That's what I asked you. So, all right, DeeDee, you wild. I don't feel as bad for Chris scamming you because DeeDee, you a wild girl. We don't know what's going on. So it wasn't until Chris disappeared five months after John and Linda's disappearance that it was discovered that he was the secret source that had supplied the Sohlas with the information about the jobs. So, three, oh yes, about to be bad, y'all. Heads up if you want to speed through this part. Three plastic bags of human remains were unearthed in May 1994 while workers were digging a hole for a swimming pool. According to a neighbor, Chris had borrowed a chainsaw from him about the time that John

• 54:32Laci Mosley?

  and Linda went to New York, end quotes. In spite of that fact, an old acquaintance says that he had never picked up a fucking tool in his life. So this is Chris's friend saying that, yes, he was sexy and he had washboard abs, but I have never seen him use a chainsaw. But he was also very well dressed and endowed, but no chainsaw. Oh, Lord. According to Chris's hairdresser, you know hairdressers be talking. You know they be spilling the tea. So according to Chris's hairdresser, John had started to become suspicious that Chris was both stealing money from his alcoholic mother and attempting to having affair with Linda. So we already saw that Linda was not here for the love.

• 55:14Laci Mosley?

  And we saw it in her eyes, like she was like, let's get this wedding over with. So now John is suspicious that Linda is getting it in with washboard abs well-dressed Chris and that Chris is stealing money from DeeDee, the conspiracy theorist who is very good at talking to the authorities.

• 55:39Laci Mosley?

  No one suspected Chris while he was in San Marino despite the fact that five months after the Sohas disappeared, he skipped town with the couple's truck.

• 55:48Speaker 06

  Okay, but to be fair, he's probably helping with the mission.

• 55:56Laci Mosley?

  So did DeeDee believe in this mission?

• 55:58Speaker 06

  She must have.

• 55:59Laci Mosley?

  She might have.

• 56:02Speaker 06

  DeeDee is the most, well, not the most tragic figure, but a tragic figure for sure.

• 56:08Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, DeeDee, I take it all back. Maybe you're not as shady. You know, you really just thought that the mission was happening. You didn't know. And that was your story and you were sticking to it, sis. God damn.

• 56:18Speaker 06

  Who wouldn't trust the, the best dressed man in America?

• 56:22Laci Mosley?

  Who's the most handsome, okay? The best talker. He had a public access show. How dare we not trust this man? So in late 1988, a man calling himself Christopher Crow got an interview with the venture capitalist St. Phelps in Greenwich, Connecticut, who hired him at a leading brokerage firm as a computer whiz. Wow, so Chris somehow now knows how to work computers. Chris was abruptly fired when the social security number he used to apply for the Wall Street Broker's License was looked up and it was found to belong to the son of Sam Killer, David Berkowitz.

• 56:58Speaker 06

  Oh, Son of Sam?

• 57:00Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, Son of Sam, David Berkowitz. Okay.

• 57:03Speaker 06

  Whoa.

• 57:03Laci Mosley?

  So this is David Berkowitz that we're looking at?

• 57:06Speaker 06

  Mm-hmm.

• 57:07Laci Mosley?

  Wow. So despite having no college degree or practically any experience in anything, Chris was next hired to be the head in a department of a firm on Wall Street with an estimated annual base salary of a hundred fifty thousand dollars, approximately three hundred fifty thousand dollars today. Talk about failing up. So he got a job and then he gave his social security number. They looked it up and they said, "This ain't you." And he said, "You are so right. All right, um, goodbye."

• 57:35Laci Mosley?

  And he just left and just kept getting jobs. Good jobs.

• 57:39Speaker 06

  The thing that is the craziest to me is that he could remember all the names. That would be really hard.

• 57:47Laci Mosley?

  Well, the thing that he's doing that's smart, when you're a scammer, is you don't change your whole name. So he's keeping the Chris, because there's so many Chris's in the world, and he's just adding a little Saxon, a little Tahin, a little Chalula, you know, to the last name and, and, and, you know, keeping it moving. Because if you change your first name a lot, then when people start calling you, you, you might not remember what name you gave them. So they're like, "John, Tony." Like, "Who's, oh, that's me. Right, I'm Tony. Um, yes, me, Tony." "What, what did you need?" Sorry, sometimes I be, uh, forgetting my name. Uh, what, what did you need?

• 58:20Speaker 06

  Because I'm a spy.

• 58:23Laci Mosley?

  I'm on a mission. No, so Chris, leaving your first name is Chris. That's what people gonna call you anyway. So he was subsequently fired and found another job at another firm and skipped town when Connecticut troopers with questions about the Soho's missing truck began catching up to him. Chris reappeared in New York, this time under his most audacious identity yet. Clark Rockefeller. Wow. Talk about just going to the top. He said, "That tree, yeah, that's my, my family tree. Yeah, that, that one, we the Rockefeller's."

• 58:54Speaker 06

  So verifiable. It's so good.

• 58:58Laci Mosley?

  So Clark Rockefeller first started to become known in Manhattan around nineteen ninety-two or nineteen ninety-three. So this is still when, you know, cell phones are a new thing. Aren't they in briefcases at this point? Like, don't all the computers look green like ghosts?

• 59:15Laci Mosley?

  Honestly, it was probably easy to be a computer whiz in the nineties. Like, what'd you have to know? Control, all, delete?

• 59:20Speaker 06

  Yeah, turn it on. Oh, the whiz.

• 59:24Laci Mosley?

  Oh, it's not working. Turn it off and then turn it on again. Wow. Wow. Mr. Rockefeller. Did you try hitting it? Blow into the back of it. Just doing all the shit you do to reset a Nintendo? A genius. So, his story was that he was a Rockefeller and that his great aunt Blanche Blanchette, who had passed in 1992, willed him part of her estate, which was partially true, and was the first act that majority spread his name around New York as a Rockefeller. So Clark, so maybe he did get some coins from an aunt, but it obviously wasn't a Rockefeller? Okay. Clark also developed a friendship with his neighbor, an art dealer,

• 1:00:05Laci Mosley?

  whom he asked for assistance in appraising a large collection of his aunt's inherited paintings, full of names like Rothko and Pollock, which those are like Jason Pollock, like come on now, those are the coin coin paintings. Fun fact, his art dealer friend even tried to push him into purchasing a $300,000 Adolf Gottlieb painting from the Nodler Gallery? Oh, so many words in this episode. God bless me. But he was disgusted when he saw it, saying that he doesn't buy paintings with green in them. Wow.

• 1:00:39Laci Mosley?

  So in order to prove to his art dealer friend that he had coins, he was like, yeah, let me see the paint. $300,000, that ain't no thing, that ain't no thing. When he saw the painting, he was like, ugh, they use green? I don't want it.

• 1:00:52Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, I see the Monet, I see the Monet. Why the lily pants green? I don't want it. Seriously, if it didn't have green in it, I would pay $300,000 for a painting. I got the money right here. I would. Look, I have it. I have it. I just don't like green. If it wasn't green, like I would pay more for it. I'd pay a million dollars.

• 1:01:14Laci Mosley?

  If it don't, can they get rid of the green? Can they get rid of, no? Okay, then we don't have a deal. I don't know what to tell you. It's fine. It's fine. So his parody of an eccentric rich person was so complete that he walked around with a radio device as if he had to report his location to security offices every few minutes. And his diet consisted mainly of cucumber and watercress crustless tea sandwiches and Pepperidge Farm cookies. Was that? Yum.

• 1:01:43Laci Mosley?

  This is how he convinced people he was rich. He was like, I need a water crust sandwich. And a Pepperidge Farm, please. And water, water with bubbles in it. You know us riches, we can't drink that flat water pours and joy. And make it room temp. I'm very rich.

• 1:01:59Speaker 06

  And um, a frappuccino, please.

• 1:02:03Laci Mosley?

  Hold the frap. Extra chino. For this billionaire.

• 1:02:09Speaker 06

  I'm convinced he's a Rockefeller.

• 1:02:13Laci Mosley?

  Despite his eccentricities, Clark soon fell in love with Sandra Boss, an impressive Stanford graduate businesswoman. Oh no, not the businesswoman, not the businesswoman of business. Oh, yeah, she's given business. This haircut says, "Take me seriously in the boardroom."

• 1:02:31Speaker 06

  A cool collar.

• 1:02:33Laci Mosley?

  Right. This looks like she's in court testifying. They had a Quaker wedding, which allowed Clark to bypass many of the legalities of marriage. They only had to file paperwork, which Clark never did, and Sandra never checked. Much like how she never checked why he made no money.

• 1:02:50Speaker 06

  I know Sandra wrote this part.

• 1:02:55Laci Mosley?

  Sandra, you let this man with his gray hair and, and his washboard abs and his, his high fashion looks scam you? He never made no money. Y'all went to dinner and every time he said he forgot his wallet and nothing seemed odd to you?

• 1:03:12Speaker 06

  We had a radio and he ate cucumbers.

• 1:03:15Laci Mosley?

  You paid for all his water crust sandwiches and that didn't seem peculiar?

• 1:03:21Laci Mosley?

  He, he put out a coin for a water or a crust and you still just fucking him and just not caring? Oh. She was a businesswoman though. You know, it's hard to be a businesswoman. She was probably very consumed with business.

• 1:03:30Speaker 06

  Yeah, busy, busy girl.

• 1:03:32Laci Mosley?

  Busy, a busy Deborah, maybe, you know?

• 1:03:36Speaker 06

  Thank you for that seamless.

• 1:03:38Laci Mosley?

  Shameless, shameless seamless plug guys. Watch Busy Devers HBO Max. You see what we do here. So he ain't making no coins. Their marriage was observed to be outwardly formal and stiff. One friend even asked Sandra, how do you know he's really Clark Rockefeller and not some ax murderer on the lam? That was a very specific question from your homegirl who has great discernment.

• 1:03:59Speaker 06

  I don't think that's real.

• 1:04:02Laci Mosley?

  Sandra, did you add that? Cause it just seems too specific. She was like, how do you know he's Clark Rockefeller? And not a man who lived in California and did chainsaw murders?

• 1:04:12Speaker 06

  And was originally studying film in University of Wisconsin.

• 1:04:16Laci Mosley?

  How do you not know? And he was awkward and had lots of fantasies as a child in Germany. How do you not know that's who he really is? Little specific. So they moved to New Hampshire shortly before the birth of their daughter, where Clark firmly entrenched himself as the eccentric new character in town, even taking part in local plays. Now he doing plays. Now, I ain't dating no man who doing local plays for fun. If you, if you have a passion and you want to be an actor, sure, fine. Even that, not my taste. But plays for fun?

• 1:04:48Laci Mosley?

  That's where I draw the line.

• 1:04:49Speaker 06

  You don't, you don't like a man with a hobby?

• 1:04:53Laci Mosley?

  You better get into, I don't know, whittling or putting shit in a bottle.

• 1:04:59Laci Mosley?

  The fuck? Golfing? Oh no.

• 1:05:02Speaker 06

  No, no, not the zoom in.

• 1:05:08Laci Mosley?

  This is embarrassing. Judith, no you did not zoom in on this photo. My producer is disrespectful. That's hilarious. I know he is not sitting over here in what is clearly spray painted gold costuming. And, and, oh no, is he Caesar? Is this Julius Caesar? What is this? No. Can you imagine? How embarrassing. How embarrassing to be a businesswoman and you gotta be like, alright guys, we gotta close the boardroom early today. I gotta go to my husband's play.

• 1:05:40Laci Mosley?

  No.

• 1:05:42Speaker 06

  She deserves so much more.

• 1:05:43Laci Mosley?

  So much more than this. We all do. Clark continued to use Sandra's money to buy extravagant properties and act as a stay-at-home dad to Ray Storrow Mills' boss, whom he called Snooks. That's their child. And that's four names. That's how you know you raising the scammer child. Why you get it, baby, out of names? Too many names. Eventually Sandra had enough and wanted a divorce from Clark. Cut off from his wife's money, the divorce was ugly and contentious and there was a thread that began unraveling in Clark's 30-year-long tapestry of lies when Sandra hired a lawyer and private investigator to investigate him. Unable to prove his past or to offer documentation for proof of any of his claims, Clark lost everything in the divorce, including the estates and his daughter. In exchange, he

• 1:06:25Laci Mosley?

  received $800,000, the most money he had ever had, and three supervised visits a year. What? This man, this man, had nothing. Nothing!

• 1:06:42Speaker 06

  Eight hundred thousand dollars.

• 1:06:44Laci Mosley?

  And he left with almost a million dollars of this businesswoman's money?

• 1:06:50Speaker 06

  I mean, the community theater is, is getting sets. The community theater is getting new costumes.

• 1:06:57Laci Mosley?

  Yo, you know, he was probably funding, that's probably how he got the lead roles. He would be like, alright, well, if y'all want some backdrops, then I need to be Caesar. I don't, auditions. Clark, don't audition. That's my name right now. Clark, right? It ain't Chris. Yeah, Clark. Clark, don't audition.

• 1:07:16Laci Mosley?

  Lord Jesus. So, on July 27, 2008, Clark, now going by Chip, this guy knows a white man name.

• 1:07:26Laci Mosley?

  Clark, Chip, Chris. Okay, I'm waiting for Topher. It's gotta be next.

• 1:07:33Laci Mosley?

  So we're getting to the end of this kidnapped his seven year old daughter during a supervised visit in Boston. Now, why can't you lead a baby out of it? You gonna be a criminal on the lam, lead a baby out of it. The baby has her business woman mama. Like, leave the baby alone. He left such a confusing trail that it took a twenty person FBI and Boston police force team and a wild goose chase over five days to track him down. So I'm looking at Clark is not sexy enough for all this, or Chip, or Chris. And this daughter looks so cute. Oh, this poor baby. It's not her fault that her daddy's a scammer. That's just trash. Eventually, the FBI was able to lure him outside of his house where he was arrested right after he tried to walk away to get a turkey sandwich. So.

• 1:08:18Laci Mosley?

  So Chip gets turkey sandwiches, but Clark likes water, Chris. Okay.

• 1:08:24Speaker 06

  But you know what? You know what we we cannot take away from him is he is doing his dramaturgy. He is creating characters.

• 1:08:32Laci Mosley?

  He is weaving a web. He's like, what is Clark's motivation today?

• 1:08:37Speaker 06

  Sandwich of choice.

• 1:08:39Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. What does he eat? How does he sleep? Who does he fuck? He marries a business woman. Yes. So according to one journalist, Chris interviews after, uh, like he arrested, when he got arrested, he did some interviews. So this is the journalist talking. He says peppering his speech with verbal filigrees such as quite so and rather rambled on about five or six, seven languages that he speaks, the historical novel about roots of Israel statehood he's writing, and work as a researcher of anything from physics to social sciences. So he's just up here just talking.

• 1:09:16Laci Mosley?

  And and if y'all don't remember, guys, we we've said this before, and we're we're getting to the end of Clark and his shenanigans. If people talking too much, if they giving you too many details, if they're volunteering too much information, they are a liar.

• 1:09:31Laci Mosley?

  It is so easy to spot. Guys, if somebody's telling you all their accomplishments, how much money they got, how much money they spending, what they doing, and they not inviting you, they not spending the money on you, you're not getting on the yacht, they lying.

• 1:09:48Laci Mosley?

  Okay, it's too easy to find that shit. Now I'll be like, pull up your Insta, let me see.

• 1:09:52Speaker 06

  Show me. I wanna see a photo of you on the yacht. I'm not on Insta. No photos of the yacht?

• 1:09:57Laci Mosley?

  Oh, the yacht being clean right now. Hella barnacles, so uh, yeah, no photos of the yacht. What the fuck? I just saw you Googling yachts. Don't, don't Google yachts and then show me a screenshot.

• 1:10:10Laci Mosley?

  So in June 2009, Christian was convicted of kidnapping his daughter and sentenced to a maximum of five years in prison. The national spotlight on him brought renewed attention to the Sohas murders. And in March 2011, Christian was charged in connection with John Sohas's death. On April 10th, 2013, a jury convicted Christian of first degree murder and he later was sentenced to 27 years in prison. Why is he doing this side eye like, you got me?

• 1:10:32Speaker 06

  Okay, well, and I do wanna officially on the record retract what I said about him aging well.

• 1:10:38Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. Yeah, he aging like a banana now, but...

• 1:10:43Speaker 06

  Evil doesn't do a body good, it turns out.

• 1:10:45Laci Mosley?

  I mean, I don't know, it'll keep you alive. It may not keep you cute, but it will keep you alive.

• 1:10:49Speaker 06

  It will keep you, you will live forever, but you will look like shit.

• 1:10:52Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, you will look like Sméagol, but you will outlive us all and the roaches, so there's that for you. So, I'm wondering what happened to Linda, though. Wasn't Linda also murdered as well? And, and we don't know if they didn't convict. But where did Linda go? Is Linda on the mission?

• 1:11:09Speaker 06

  Yeah, Linda, we don't know where Linda is.

• 1:11:12Laci Mosley?

  It's time for the end scammer of the week. This is where we highlight and honor a charlatan or not. Maybe they're like Clark and Chris and Chip and, you know, and maybe we hate them. So, this November, the Justice Department accused three political operatives of running a scheme to mislead donors and enrich themselves, charging the men with defrauding people of $3.5 million in 2016 and 2017. Wow, one year, 3.5 mil. I'm into it so far.

• 1:11:39Laci Mosley?

  The allegations involve two scam political action committees and include wire fraud, money laundering, and making false claims to the Federal Election Commission, the FEC. Scam PACs often direct the money that they raise to back themselves as becoming like off, like basically like they'll be like, "Hey, we raising this money for the Democratic Party." Or, "Hey, we raising this money because I'm running for something." Alright, cool. So, they'll raise this money and then they'll just steal it. So, this became obvious with the three men. Matthew Tunstall, 34, of Los Angeles. Tunstall has led a lavish lifestyle, posing as an internet influencer under the name Matt Knox, flashing Gucci rings, wearing designer accessories, and driving a black Porsche.

• 1:12:24Laci Mosley?

  Ooh, let me see, Matt. The scam included two PACs linked to Tunstall, for which he had spent heavily to recruit...

• 1:12:33Speaker 06

  Wait! No! No! No!

• 1:12:42Laci Mosley?

  How y'all giving political action money to a man with a chest tattoo?

• 1:12:48Speaker 06

  No!

• 1:12:49Laci Mosley?

  And washboard abs. Everybody knows when you get into politics, you got a dad bod. Ain't nobody in politics this sexy?

• 1:12:58Speaker 06

  No, he is not the future.

• 1:13:01Laci Mosley?

  He's not, he's taking pictures with the front-facing camera, doing the, doing the smooze, the prune. Where you press your lips together, you say prune, and you take the photo and it makes you look sexy. He's doing selfies.

• 1:13:14Speaker 06

  He is like fully naked in one of those photos, and, and we are, we are, we are giving him PAC money?

• 1:13:21Laci Mosley?

  This man is not gonna give us no change.

• 1:13:26Laci Mosley?

  No action, no justice. He not even gonna give us peace. This, this Instagram profile is not giving peace. Is he at that German beer festival?

• 1:13:38Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:13:39Laci Mosley?

  Y'all giving y'all money to the man going to the German beer festival with the bad bitches and all the beers? And y'all thought that he was gonna help the community. I kept that.

• 1:13:51Laci Mosley?

  Honestly, he shouldn't go to jail for this because y'all wrong for giving him the money. The scam included two packs linked to Tunstall for which he had spent heavily to recruit small donors under false and misleading pretenses, including through robo calls that impersonated President Donald J. Trump.

• 1:14:07Laci Mosley?

  Hello, it's me, Trump. Yes, I'm calling your house. I need some money for change and for racism. We gotta get the blacks out. We gotta get the browns out. They're coming. They're gonna kill you. Anyway, donate to him.

• 1:14:19Speaker 06

  And this guy is gonna make it happen.

• 1:14:21Laci Mosley?

  He's a very sexy man. He's got abs. He goes to Lederhausen. Give him your money. So indictment also includes Robert Raich Jr. of Hollister, California and Kyle George Davies, 29 of Austin, Texas, who are accused of defrauding donors of approximately 3.5 million dollars based on false misleading representations and using those funds to enrich themselves. If they're all convicted on all counts, Mr. Tunstall, Mr. Raich face a maximum of 125 years in prison and Mr. Davies faces 65 years. Now, let me tell you why this is some bullshit. Clark murderer ass got 27 years for murder and five for kidnapping, but because these people defrauded some Trump supporters, they gotta go to under the jail for the rest of their life? Make it make sense. Make it make sense.

• 1:15:07Laci Mosley?

  Nah, free my man Matt. Free my man.

• 1:15:12Laci Mosley?

  I'm raising money for you, Matt. I'm gonna get a T-shirt with your abs on it, like.

• 1:15:17Speaker 06

  Actress and comedian Lacey Mosley joins the legal team for Matt Tunstall.

• 1:15:22Laci Mosley?

  I'm not gonna get on my Kim Kardashian shit. This is a miscarriage of justice.

• 1:15:27Laci Mosley?

  Joe Biden, I demand the audience.

• 1:15:29Speaker 06

  Hitting the books.

• 1:15:32Laci Mosley?

  I'm gonna become a lawyer real quick.

• 1:15:35Laci Mosley?

  How can, y'all said I gotta go to law school? No, I'm gonna just have lawyers come around me. That's, that work the same. That's what I heard. Lawyers come to my house, give me a law degree because this is not right. So, oh, man, what a turn. I'm gonna say I support these people. They were just, they're scamming on hate. Like, they're doing robo calls like, do you hate the blacks? Donate to Matt and follow him on Instagram, like and subscribe on YouTube.

• 1:15:59Speaker 06

  So he can buy a weird silver basketball.

• 1:16:04Laci Mosley?

  Follow him on TikTok. He makes the best dances. He never steals them from black people. Don't check.

• 1:16:12Laci Mosley?

  I'm for this. I I don't think anybody was hurt. Sounds like Matt's having a great life. I'm for it. Clark, you can go to hell because you're a nasty man, but Matt, I love you. Guys, this is a long one. Thank you for your patience, Mitra. We're usually out of here so much quicker than this. So much fun. We always ask on the show, where would you like to be found? Where do you want people to find you? And your things and the things they can watch you in and your brilliance?

• 1:16:40Speaker 06

  Um, watch Through Busy Debras. New season is out sometime in 2022. Uh, we don't know yet. We'll tell you when we do. Uh, and I'm on Instagram at Mitra Jouhari.

• 1:16:51Laci Mosley?

  Yes, and follow her on Instagram. Mitra does a lot of great work. She does a lot of great philanthropy. If you're in the Los Angeles area and you're looking where to give your coins and help people, Mitra's done a lot of great charity work as well. Uh, it's being a genius. And follow her so you can get into the next season of Three Busy Debras after you've watched the first one. If you haven't watched the first one already, it's cute. HBO Max. Um, guys, as always, snitch on your friends and your family at [email protected]. And if you want to find me, living my life, riding my bikes and selling my houses, D I V A L A C I, Diva Lacy on all platforms. If you want to see the photos of all this mess, scamgoddispod on all platforms. Guys, get into that merch.

• 1:17:36Laci Mosley?

  Maybe we'll make some home passion merch.

• 1:17:38Speaker 06

  You need to. I will buy that.

• 1:17:43Laci Mosley?

  And wear it. We do your home passion all.

• 1:17:46Speaker 06

  Yes.

• 1:17:49Laci Mosley?

  Guys, congregation, stay Schemin.

• 1:17:55Laci Mosley?

  This has been an Earwolf production in association with Team Coco. Scam Goddess stars and is hosted by me, Lacey Mosley, AKA Scam Goddess. It's produced by Judith Cargill, engineered by Marina Fais, and researched by Kaelyn Brandt. Stay Schemin.

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