Fraud Friday: Friday Night Frauds w/ Dave Schilling

In this week's Fraud Friday, Laci is joined by Dave Schilling (Galaxy Brains) to discuss how a fake high school named Bishop Sycamore ended up playing against an elite football team on ESPN to their own dismay. Plus, a total of 15 former NFL players pleaded guilty to healthcare fraud. Stay Schemin’! (Originally Released 11/08/2021) CONgregation, catch Laci's TV Show, Scam Goddess, now on Freeform and Hulu! Did you miss out on a custom signed Scam Goddess: Lessons from a Life of Cons, Grifts and Schemes book? Look no more, nab your copy here on PODSWAG Follow on Instagram: Scam Goddess Pod: @scamgoddesspod Laci Mosley: @divalaci Dave Schilling:@dwschilling Research by Kaelyn Brandt SOURCES: https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/highschool/2021/09/10/bishop-sycamore-football-whats-next-questionable-ohio-school/5774700001/ https://www.complex.com/sports/bishop-sycamore-lies-espn-play-on-national-tv https://www.complex.com/sports/bishop-sycamore-lies-espn-play-on-national-tv?utm_campaign=sportstw&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social https://awfulannouncing.com/espn/we-learned-more-about-how-bishop-sycamore-ended-up-playing-on-espn-and-its-only-getting-shadier.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter https://awfulannouncing.com/high-school/bishop-sycamore-head-coach-we-are-not-a-school-but-a-post-grad-football-academy.html https://awfulannouncing.com/high-school/prep-gridiron-logistics-bishop-sycamore-message-boards.html https://awfulannouncing.com/high-school/bishop-sycamore-scandal-2021-football-opponents-canceled-game.html https://www.wpxi.com/sports/high-school-football/ohio-football-team-allegedly-lied-its-way-onto-espn-played-sto-rox-days-earlier/DO4MFXBN6RFAJIYX2MSA3UUDSU/

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• 0:00Speaker 00

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• 1:31Laci Mosley?

  What's poppin', congregation? It's your girl, Lacey Mosley, AKA Scam Goddess. Welcome to an episode of Fraud Fridays, where we release older episodes from the Scam Goddess Vault. That's right, Fraud Fridays is where we bring back your favorite episodes from behind the paywall. Enjoy this episode from behind the paywall, and as always, stay schemin'.

• 2:12Laci Mosley?

  What is pop in congregation? It's your girl, Lacey Mosley, AKA Scam Goddess. And welcome back to another installment of the podcast, all about robbery and fraud, those who practice it. What if I just talk like I was from NPR now and I just like did like a sensual whisper? Do you like that?

• 2:30Speaker 03

  Yeah, I like it. I think you should do that more often.

• 2:32Laci Mosley?

  We're already getting a little preview of who's in the building today. We have what? I'm very what? I'm very excited. Oh, God, that was nasty scum. I'm sorry about that.

• 2:41Speaker 03

  I know. I'm glad you can't see me from the waist down. This is disgusting.

• 2:47Laci Mosley?

  So today we have comedian, writer, podcaster, Dave Schilling. He co-hosts the Galaxy Brains podcast with Jonah Ray, where they analyze the movies and TV shows that you cannot stop obsessing over. Congregation, give a warm round of applause from your car or bathtub or wherever you are for Dave Schilling. What's up, Dave? Dave, why are you looking like this? It's like I can just see like your computer monitor or something like the cameras.

• 3:12Speaker 03

  Where am I gonna put my? I have a thing, like a black thing that covers up my microphone so that it doesn't echo. Because I have like hardwood floors in my apartment. So I was, this was purchased for me by Vox, who produces my podcast. They're like, you gotta have this thing so your podcast doesn't sound like shit. And so I have to put it here. I don't know where to put my camera. I want you to be able to see what I'm wearing today.

• 3:39Laci Mosley?

  I love it. I wish I could just see Dave is like literally talking into like what looks like a corner. Like it looks like he's like facing the corner and having a full conversation with somebody else. I'm like, Dave, hello? Hello?

• 3:49Speaker 03

  Oh, Jim, how you doing? I'm just doing a podcast. It's fine. No worries. Yeah, I just wanted to make sure that we could have, at least you could pretend like I'm talking to you, you know?

• 3:58Laci Mosley?

  I love this. I'm catching half of your face. It's cute.

• 4:01Speaker 03

  It's the best half. You got the best half of me.

• 4:03Laci Mosley?

  You did it on your good side, Dave. I have to ask you, like, what, like, do you have a relationship with scams? Have you ever been scammed? Do you like scams? Do you hate them? Do you participate in them? What's your vibe?

• 4:14Speaker 03

  That's a good question. I despise liars.

• 4:18Speaker 03

  Um, of course, I hate myself because I'm constantly lying to people because I live in Hollywood. Uh, but, uh, yeah.

• 4:26Laci Mosley?

  Dave, that don't add up. Hey, you're just gonna be like, yeah, I've been lying to people all the time. You know how it is when you live in Fort Worth.

• 4:32Speaker 03

  Everybody lies everywhere. Yeah, it doesn't matter where you live, what profession you're in.

• 4:37Laci Mosley?

  When you live in Macon, Georgia, you gotta lie to everybody. It's not my fault. It's the city.

• 4:41Speaker 03

  What size pants do you wear? Oh, I'm a thirty-four. It's like three sizes smaller than what you actually wear. Uh, yes, in terms of scams and scamming, um, I think the first time I really felt scammed is when my parents decided to pay for, um, who's who in American high schools. Do you remember this? You heard about this thing?

• 5:01Laci Mosley?

  Uh-oh, what's that?

• 5:02Speaker 03

  It was like, they'd come to your school and they would say, hey, we have this like, this book and it's a list of all the best students in high schools across America. And if you want to be a huge success, you need to pay us forty-nine ninety-five. We'll put your name in the book and then we'll send you the book and recruiters from colleges and employers all look at this thing. And they'll know that you are who's who in American high school. And of course, it was BS. Everybody got to be in there. It wasn't like, oh, I can't believe I did so well in school. I was a horrible student. I was one of the laziest people in my high school.

• 5:36Laci Mosley?

  Look, they said who's who. They didn't say who was smart, who was good. And you're, you're very smart, but they didn't say like, who's got good grades. They said who's who, who is, who is here?

• 5:45Speaker 03

  Yeah, I think this company knew that I was gonna be a huge success and I was gonna have my own podcast. And, uh, then they're like, we gotta get this dude in this book. And that's how it happened. So I felt like, once I realized later on that it was a scam, I was, I felt bad for my parents. Who were like, I'm so proud of my little boy. He's so talented.

• 6:04Laci Mosley?

  No, I love this for your parents. They were like, already ready to scam. They're like, yeah, let's put him in this book. Like, like, how is it an honor if I, if I gotta pay? They were like, yeah, would you like, we think you are very smart and talented. Would you like to be honored by being in this book? All right, get your checkbook out, bitch.

• 6:18Speaker 03

  Hey, you're smart. Do you want a bill? Do you have to pay? It's like, what the fuck is this? Get out of here.

• 6:25Laci Mosley?

  I love that. I love a little con like that. It's so funny because I feel like the dynamic for college used to be so different. So it used to be like recruiters and people like coming to the school and being like, come to our school. Then for a while it got really competitive, like at least for me as a millennial, where we were like out here, you know, trying to be in everybody's club and everybody's organization trying to rack up these, um, you know. These accomplishments to get into these schools and now because of covid and everybody realizing college is a scam. Like my sister's applying for college right now and I feel like the colleges are like, we'll suck your dick.

• 6:56Speaker 03

  Please come, please.

• 6:57Laci Mosley?

  Please come, please, please. It's me, it's me, college. What's up, what's up, what's good, sis? You already in. Don't, you don't even need to send us nothing, just, just show up.

• 7:05Speaker 03

  Twice a day we'll give you free food, a place to stay and a bed to have sex on. That's all you need, right? Come on, little kid.

• 7:12Laci Mosley?

  A twin sized bed. Have you ever fucked in a twin sized bed?

• 7:15Speaker 03

  Of course I have. Are you out of your mind?

• 7:18Laci Mosley?

  Come to college.

• 7:20Speaker 03

  That's what they do, a place to have sex, because like, no one can run away. You can't just be like, I give up. No, you gotta finish the job. You gotta do the thing. You're stuck on the twin sized bed. It's awesome.

• 7:30Laci Mosley?

  No, the twin sized bed is like, that's a rite of passage. We're like,

• 7:33Speaker 03

  Oh, it's so sad.

• 7:34Laci Mosley?

  When your back is good enough that you can have sex on the tiniest bed possible.

• 7:39Speaker 03

  Yeah, I don't know how we pulled it off back then.

• 7:41Laci Mosley?

  Would you like to have sex on a folding table? College.

• 7:45Speaker 03

  Closets, folding tables, coffee tables, various.

• 7:50Laci Mosley?

  They're like, well, this is one step up from your car, where you used to do it. Much more luxurious.

• 7:56Speaker 03

  Yeah, oh boy, I don't want to think about that anymore.

• 7:58Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, if you had a, oh, bathrooms. If you had a queen sized bed at college, like, you was really living that life, because we all had to sleep on them little folding tables.

• 8:08Speaker 03

  I, now, I, I, I didn't realize at the time that college was a scam, so I'm glad you're bringing this up, because I didn't learn anything. Did you learn anything in college?

• 8:16Laci Mosley?

  Oh, yeah, I learned a fuck ton. Now, was any of it like, really like, what I planned to be learning? No, absolutely not. But, but it's all helping in life. It helped me scam, like, those psych classes. You can learn a lot about people and natural behavior and people's avoidance of conflict and how to get what you want. I, um, I love bribing people at restaurants. That's like, I'll give a host a handshake in a minute if I can get a table faster. Uh, this weekend, actually, though, it went less. I gave, uh, well, it wasn't my money, but I was going on a date. And we were forty-five minutes late and it was my fault. It was not so bad.

• 8:49Speaker 03

  Of course it was. You look like a late person.

• 8:52Laci Mosley?

  Damn.

• 8:54Speaker 03

  I'm just saying, some people look like they're late. My mother.

• 8:57Laci Mosley?

  Some people look like they're late, like every time I see them.

• 9:00Speaker 03

  Seventy-three year old black woman, late all the time. Never not up late.

• 9:04Laci Mosley?

  I'm late all the time. It is a condition. Do not shame me. Okay. You know, time is a construct. I show up based off vibes. You know what I mean? Like when my shop rules align.

• 9:15Speaker 03

  Yeah, you show up when the vibe is right, when it's been percolating and you like the flowers started to bloom a little bit.

• 9:22Laci Mosley?

  You gotta let your third eye wake up, get the crust out of that. You know what I mean?

• 9:25Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 9:26Laci Mosley?

  Like I'm operating on a vibrational plane. You know what Elon Musk has said? No, I really have nowhere to go with that. It's an insane explanation, but I'm just chronically tardy and I'm proud of it. I don't even say sorry that I'm late anymore. I just say, thank you for your patience.

• 9:38Speaker 03

  The psychological manipulation part that you brought up is interesting to me because I realized that I was scammed on Halloween.

• 9:46Laci Mosley?

  Fresh.

• 9:47Speaker 03

  So I went to play pinball at a bar by myself on Halloween because I have that kind of fucking nerd.

• 9:54Laci Mosley?

  Dave, what?

• 9:56Speaker 03

  No, it's fine. It's fine. I'm a parent. I didn't need to be go out just taking chances on Halloween.

• 10:00Laci Mosley?

  Where'd you go? Dave and Buster's or where's the pinball machine?

• 10:03Speaker 03

  Dave and Buster's doesn't have pinball?

• 10:05Laci Mosley?

  I don't know what they got in there.

• 10:07Speaker 03

  They got like those VR machines that you'd ride around in fucking Fast and Furious cars or something. No, a pinball, uh, there's a place in Eagle Rock called Waltz. And they have like old pinball machines. So I go and I break a 20 um, to get beer and then get quarters and stuff. And as I'm taking my change, the bartender says to the, the, um, the bar back, not getting a lot of tips tonight. I was like, oh shit. Well, I guess I better tip. So I gave her like $4 because I knew that she was trying to guilt trip me. Or I didn't know she was trying to guilt trip me. I just felt guilty. And then the next day, today I was like, oh, she didn't.

• 10:49Speaker 03

  She was doing that specifically so I heard her because she knew I had cash.

• 10:54Laci Mosley?

  Yup.

• 10:55Speaker 03

  I got played.

• 10:56Laci Mosley?

  You did, and I love that for her. I don't know why I never thought of that. I think because when I was a bartender, I was very aggressive and we would be like, if you didn't tip us, we'd be like, hey y'all, he didn't tip, so don't give him no more drinks. Like, we would just be mean as fuck to everybody and bully them into get buying like at least forty dollars worth of stuff so that we could autograph it for eight dollars, which is definitely illegal, but we did it for so long. I don't know, they told us that was what we did. And I was like, okay, we stealing, we doing crime crimes up in here. Love it, love that for me. Um, but that's so funny. I never thought about doing that, y'all. If you're in the service industry, if you're a bartender, I feel like, yeah, you gotta like just shout out sometimes like, damn it, I'm poor.

• 11:36Speaker 03

  My car payment is next week and uh it's three hundred dollars. Can you help a brother out? Yeah, I why not? Why not? Well, I mean, if you find a guy who looks like me, who wears glasses, who's kind of like too nice, uh just assume that they're going to be guilty about whether or not you have money. So just throw it out there, just try.

• 11:55Laci Mosley?

  Randomly get on your phone, be like, damn it, that was the bank. They taking the house for real this time. Sir, what can I get you?

• 12:04Speaker 03

  Gotta put my dog down, can't afford his meds. Oh, hey, so our specials are hash browns uh with gravy. Yeah, that's bean, that's just bean stuff.

• 12:14Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, no, we can't afford, we can't afford to um, we can't afford to euthanize him, so we're just.

• 12:19Speaker 03

  Poor bastard, we're just gonna throw him off a bridge. Let him swim for it.

• 12:26Speaker 03

  Like, I got this pillow.

• 12:30Laci Mosley?

  It's hurting me more than it hurts you.

• 12:34Speaker 03

  Oh, poor Fido.

• 12:35Laci Mosley?

  So anyway, the specials.

• 12:38Speaker 03

  You gotta roll right back into the menu. You gotta roll right back into like, alright, so we've got fettuccine alfredo, we got steak, whatever, fuck.

• 12:45Laci Mosley?

  Right.

• 12:46Speaker 03

  I'm gonna go cry. I'm just waiting for this shift to be over.

• 12:50Laci Mosley?

  You start asking the guest questions. Do y'all know how much a kidney would go for?

• 12:56Speaker 03

  How many times are you allowed to give blood in a month?

• 13:02Laci Mosley?

  Like how much blood like before you like have

• 13:05Speaker 03

  Yeah, have I started passing it out or anything like what's what's the what is the trade off here? What am I losing out on?

• 13:11Laci Mosley?

  You start faking like you faint and we go to tables. Oh, sorry, guys. Had to give away a lot of blood. Times are very hard. Uh, anyway, we have a table side Caesar salad that's to die for.

• 13:21Speaker 03

  Hey, are you gonna finish that apple juice? I'm feeling a little weak.

• 13:27Laci Mosley?

  Times be hard, bro. I love, I really fuck with, I fuck with that bartender. She's, she's doing the right thing. I hope she does that all night long. I hope that bartender just knows that the bar back knows that that's the bit that they do.

• 13:38Speaker 03

  And now I'm gonna go back and I'm gonna be the mark and she's like, hmm, I can get this guy again. He thought I was cute and so I'm gonna manipulate his sick little soft brain.

• 13:48Laci Mosley?

  And I love that for her. I love that for her.

• 13:50Speaker 03

  No, I'm happy. I like to be a simp. That is my, that's where I belong. This is, this is my calling.

• 13:57Laci Mosley?

  I like to be a simp.

• 13:58Speaker 03

  I mean, I hope you do. You better.

• 14:03Speaker 04

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• 16:05Laci Mosley?

  COT! Let's get into our first segment here. What's hot and fraud? This is where we warn the listeners about a poppin' scam and the zeitgeist are more often than not. What do we do? We get your letters, guys. As always, snitch on your friends, your family, yourself. [email protected]. Just make sure the scam is retired because we don't want to what? Yes, fuck up your bag. Amen. Dave, I need a fake name for this person. We don't care what gender.

• 16:27Speaker 03

  Let's see, um, Samuel Beavers.

• 16:35Speaker 03

  Samuel T. Beavers.

• 16:36Laci Mosley?

  Sam Beavers? Sounds like a porn name.

• 16:39Speaker 03

  No, I don't watch pornography.

• 16:42Laci Mosley?

  Wow, the way you said that.

• 16:45Speaker 03

  No, I don't watch pornography.

• 16:47Laci Mosley?

  I lowkey wanted to believe you. You were like, no, I don't watch pornography.

• 16:51Speaker 03

  Oh, come on, come on. No, I would never do such a thing.

• 16:54Laci Mosley?

  Oh, I imagine. I imagine sex in my head.

• 16:57Speaker 03

  My glasses are ready to fuck up again.

• 17:00Laci Mosley?

  So, this, so Sam Beavers.

• 17:03Speaker 03

  Sorry. I sold you down the river with that one.

• 17:06Laci Mosley?

  You really did.

• 17:07Speaker 03

  I fucked you up.

• 17:09Laci Mosley?

  Right. It was like, uh, booty hole fuck. That's what the name is. What? Sam Beavers. Alright. So, Sam Beavers says, hopefully y'all aren't listening to this out loud. No, we always cursing out here. Your kids will be fine.

• 17:23Speaker 03

  Yeah, if you're playing this over the loudspeaker at a Walmart, that's on you.

• 17:27Laci Mosley?

  And I love that for me. So please do.

• 17:30Speaker 03

  Get those numbers up.

• 17:31Laci Mosley?

  So this is a small business owner. Like anytime we're giving out something, if it's candy for Halloween or gifts for Christmas, if you stick one of your business labels on it and an address or a phone number, it's a way to promote the business regardless regardless of whom, you know, you're giving it to mom, dad, brother, who gives a fuck. All right, Sam. So booger kids knocking on the door. Why you calling these kids booger kids?

• 17:54Speaker 03

  Booger kids.

• 17:56Laci Mosley?

  They're way children.

• 17:56Speaker 03

  What's a booger kid?

• 17:57Laci Mosley?

  I'm gonna guess like, cause they be having boogers and they be, I don't know.

• 18:01Speaker 03

  I mean, some kids are out there eating boogers. My kid is four. He doesn't eat boogers. He doesn't put weird stuff in his mouth. So maybe like a booger kid is like one of those gross kids who like does stuff that nobody wants to talk to.

• 18:13Laci Mosley?

  It's always something on their face.

• 18:15Speaker 03

  Yeah, something like some sort of like goo or like just like food or like marker.

• 18:22Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, wipe your kids faces.

• 18:23Speaker 03

  Yeah, come on.

• 18:23Laci Mosley?

  So booger kids knocking on the door to get some candy, put a sticker on it. Uh, when you do, it can be written off as a tax write-off for $25 or less each. Damn.

• 18:34Speaker 03

  What?

• 18:35Laci Mosley?

  Yes. This is my thing is is everything costs $25 if you have a small business. Big business assholes, they write off billions. I'm writing off pennies, pure pennies. It started to sound like you mad at the big business, which you should be. So, okay, I like this. Like, so if you just stick like, okay, what if you don't have a small business though? Can you buy, can you, can everyone just write off like Halloween candy? Can we write off Christmas presents to our friend, our family?

• 19:01Speaker 03

  No, I think you kind of have to be incorporated. You probably are though, right? Couldn't you do it?

• 19:05Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, I am. Okay, so if you have. Yeah, I have an S corp. So if you have an S corp, guys, you know, if you're giving away anything for free, maybe start throwing your business name on there. You know what I mean? Making a business transaction.

• 19:18Speaker 03

  Don't forget, who gave you this Snickers bar, young man? Get out of here.

• 19:22Laci Mosley?

  I'm gonna make everybody sign up for a mailing list, like all the kids. Your momma got you an email yet, baby?

• 19:27Speaker 03

  Yeah, you wanna get candy? I'm gonna need your vitals, I need your details. Sign up right here for your Snickers bar.

• 19:35Laci Mosley?

  Right, I feel like every kid probably has an email now after, you know, Zoom school from the pandemic. So yeah, I'm gonna get all of them to sign up for my comedy mailing list.

• 19:44Speaker 03

  Yeah, I'm sure the parents are gonna be like, yes, I'm going to give out my child's email address to some weird lady.

• 19:51Laci Mosley?

  Do you want the candy or what?

• 19:53Speaker 03

  Yeah, you decide.

• 19:55Laci Mosley?

  Candy, bitch.

• 19:56Speaker 03

  Make your choice, okay?

• 19:57Laci Mosley?

  You're coming to my improv show.

• 19:58Speaker 03

  No candy.

• 20:01Speaker 03

  It's a bringer at the comedy store. I need to get twenty people to show up, so I buy these candy bars.

• 20:07Laci Mosley?

  So get the, okay, listen. That's the trade off. What if we all just started doing that? Like we really started making kids like work for candy on Halloween? Like, yeah, you can get this candy, but first you gotta answer my riddles three.

• 20:19Speaker 03

  You're like a troll under a bridge?

• 20:22Laci Mosley?

  Ain't no such thing as a free lunch.

• 20:23Speaker 03

  That's right, yeah, you gotta learn to earn it. This is America.

• 20:28Laci Mosley?

  Everyone's just skipping my house. Like, don't go over there.

• 20:31Speaker 03

  Oh, that's the lady that gives you chores if you want candy.

• 20:35Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, if you want candy, you gonna come here and clean this toilet.

• 20:38Speaker 03

  Sweep this porch, motherfucker, do it now.

• 20:41Laci Mosley?

  If you want candy, it's to rake them leaves, they're not gonna rake themselves.

• 20:44Speaker 03

  They're gonna start throwing Smarties at them. Yeah, eat that.

• 20:47Laci Mosley?

  Right, she's throwing them individually out of the wrapper.

• 20:51Speaker 03

  Catch it with your mouth.

• 20:55Laci Mosley?

  The worst Halloween house ever. I love this, I love this for me. No, yeah, yeah, y'all get them kids working, okay? This whole free candy, you just walk around and people give you things, that's not America.

• 21:07Laci Mosley?

  That's what America's about, you get you a squeegee, I'd be like, all right, y'all wash one window each.

• 21:14Speaker 03

  Each one gets a window, then I got five windows.

• 21:17Laci Mosley?

  But you can have a twix, okay? Do you like left or right? Cause you can't have both.

• 21:23Speaker 03

  I just realized a car has six windows. I don't know if it said five. You got, I got five windows. The side window got blown out. Yeah, somebody threw a baseball bat at it, whatever.

• 21:34Laci Mosley?

  Oh, my goodness. It's time for Historic Hoodwings. I am going to regale Dave with the famous con caper. Group of Criminals Squad. Um, and we're gonna see if we like them or we hate them. And I think, I think I'm gonna like what we're talking about today. You guys, as always, tagging me, emailing me, sending a carrier pigeon about a scam that you just have to hear about. And I love this one so much. Shout out to the congregation. So we're talking about Bishop Sycamore. And if you don't know what Bishop Sycamore is, oh, honey, just buckle up. So at the beginning of 2021 high, high school football season, a previously unknown school called Bishop Sycamore

• 22:13Laci Mosley?

  rose to infamy when they lost to a top high school football team, IMG Academy, in a complete shutdown. It was discovered during the ESPN televised game that Bishop Sycamore was not only dangerously mismatched, but actually might have been a fake high school that lied to ESPN.

• 22:34Speaker 03

  Yeah, this was my favorite story of the year by far. These guys were, some of them not in high school, not high school age, not registered for anything. They're just like dudes who wanted to get to the NFL or get into a college or something. Some were Juco, like junior college.

• 22:52Laci Mosley?

  Junior college, yeah.

• 22:53Speaker 03

  Yeah, they got destroyed, but it's, it's funny to a point.

• 22:58Laci Mosley?

  I wish they hadn't lost. I wish they hadn't lost.

• 23:01Speaker 03

  How are they gonna win? Was this fucking Rudy?

• 23:05Laci Mosley?

  I wish that they were so good that it was like now they all play for the NFL. Like, I wish that they had been good. That's the only thing that makes me mad about this scam. It's like, how y'all gonna make a whole, first of all, y'all not even have no grade requirement. You're not in high school. So y'all gonna make a whole football team and not get the best players?

• 23:23Speaker 03

  Okay, here's why you can't get the best players. Because this school was invented out of nothing. Uh, there are no scouts, there's, there's, they could barely afford, uh, uh, equipment. Uh, they're like, the, it would cost too much to build like real dormitories. So they just had people like sleeping on cots and on the floor and stuff. This was a scam that was so perfect. Uh, but the one flaw is that they had to be on TV. The scam is we have the fake high school. We play the best high schools in, in games. We get paid for that. We get paid to license our footage, like whatever, like be in the games.

• 24:00Laci Mosley?

  Right.

• 24:01Speaker 03

  Uh, and then ESPN buys the rights to the TV package and you just get money, uh, hand over fist. The problem is they just gotta play the fucking games and they stink. And we're gonna find out that they're bad. Someone might get seriously injured. Uh, thank God, nobody did, but like they didn't even have a quarterback at one point. They only had one, like it was the best.

• 24:25Laci Mosley?

  See, you know what I do love about Bishop Sycamore though is these probably were the guys who were out selling candy in front of Walmart. Who said they was selling Snickers so that they could buy jerseys. This is the first time in history that the kids who were selling the candy actually bought some fucking jerseys.

• 24:40Speaker 03

  Yeah, 21 year old man selling candy out in front of the, the Ralphs or the Walgreens or something.

• 24:46Laci Mosley?

  Cause he had to get jerseys. I have so many questions. So in 2021, Ohio school Bishop Sycamore entered the high school football season with the fourth toughest schedule in the nation. Their roster was only 30 to 35 players big, a fraction of the opponent's rosters, which meant that their tough schedule, the players were under a lot of pressure. So you can't really rest a lot of your players if you need a lot of your players to play. It means like they can't really ride the bench at any point because they need it. The fact that you said that they didn't have a quarterback at one point, I just imagine them like hanging around the high school like, hey.

• 25:22Laci Mosley?

  Like Matthew McConaughey from uh that movie.

• 25:25Speaker 03

  Days of confusion.

• 25:26Laci Mosley?

  Days of confusion. All right, all right. Hey.

• 25:30Speaker 03

  I get older and they stay the same age.

• 25:34Laci Mosley?

  You want to play football?

• 25:36Speaker 03

  Come on, get over here. I like I like how your butt looks in those pants. The problem is they had to because like you said, they only had thirty two players and usually you have like fifty two players on a football team. They had guys playing both sides. You're not supposed to do that. You're not supposed to play defense and offense.

• 25:52Laci Mosley?

  You're supposed to get some time off. They said, all right, we are office. Uh, y'all stay. No, y'all. Tim, John, you stay.

• 26:00Speaker 03

  Just squirt some Gatorade on him and get him back out there. Like, what? You can't do.

• 26:04Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, our left tackle.

• 26:06Speaker 03

  Left tackle is also the wide receiver.

• 26:08Laci Mosley?

  Right. My left tackle is the wide receiver.

• 26:11Speaker 03

  And you you probably know football too lazy, right? You're from Texas. Like, that's Friday Night Lights country. You can't do that shit.

• 26:18Laci Mosley?

  Hell, no. I played football in Miami. Uh, I only lived there for a year, but they had a girls' football team, so I was a wide receiver and like learned my little routes and stuff, but it was not for me, but I did have fun doing it. But it's that's so wild to me that they were not. How you gonna be office and defense?

• 26:35Speaker 03

  Well, because you're running out of people to to believe in the scam, right?

• 26:38Laci Mosley?

  Right. This is a Mrs. Doubtfire type scam.

• 26:41Speaker 03

  They should have done it multi-level marketing style like Lularoe. Like, okay, if you want to be a part of this team, you just recruit five other dudes to play on the team with you. You gotta recruit a whole offensive line if you want to play.

• 26:54Laci Mosley?

  Go down to the park and see who you can find, okay? Because Kevin can't keep being the quarterback and the running back. He's throwing to himself. He's throwing to himself. They be like.

• 27:07Speaker 03

  That's illegal anyway.

• 27:09Laci Mosley?

  The quarterback's running with it. No, he's throwing it and then he's catching it as well.

• 27:14Speaker 03

  And then he's just been laid out by a horrible tackle, just disgusting evil tackle.

• 27:19Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. And this is just so ridiculous to me. I'm also, I have a question. I wonder if we'll get the answer to this, but like, what happens when they play at home? Like, where's home? Like, when the high school school bus pulls up and they're just at somebody backyard?

• 27:31Speaker 03

  Yeah, they're still home stadium. They're just traveling because the point is, the reason why they play the fourth toughest schedule in high schools is because the point is to play the big schools, the schools people want to see on TV, and then ESPN pays whatever this company was for the package, for the, for the rights to show these broadcasts. So.

• 27:50Laci Mosley?

  So they had to get the bags. So they had to play like these. So they're playing like Friday Night Lights.

• 27:55Speaker 03

  Yeah, IMG Academy is like fucking legit. Like, these guys are definitely all gonna play in college at some point. Uh, so you're playing, you know, the, basically the, the Raiders or something. You know, these guys are gonna tear you up.

• 28:10Laci Mosley?

  So the game was aired on ESPN, um, and the, at the finale of the 2021 ESPN High School Kickoff Series, featuring prominent teams, nationally ranked prospects, and players that have committed to playing Division One football. So because of IMG's reputation of like beating ass, uh, the company that books these schools for ESPN, Prep Gridiron Logistics, they couldn't find one school out of 200 that were willing to play against them, except for Bishop Sycamore. So everybody was like, Prep stuff kept calling people like, hey, y'all, um, y'all want to play this game? Y'all gonna get paid. Y'all gonna be playing against IMG. Hello?

• 28:49Speaker 03

  I am not gonna pick up the phone next time if you keep calling me. Stop doing that. I don't want to play this game.

• 28:56Laci Mosley?

  I am not gonna get my ass whooped. Bye. No, we not coming. No. Hey, hey, it's Prep Grid. No, don't hang up.

• 29:03Speaker 03

  That's why it's the perfect grift. It's the perfect grift because people, teams are scared to play these guys who are like. Legit top prospects. So you just get a bunch of patsies to get waylaid by these studs. Like you're getting, you're getting millions and millions of dollars of TV rights. It's stupid.

• 29:23Laci Mosley?

  It's insane.

• 29:24Speaker 03

  But answer me this question. Let me ask you a question. Who the fuck is watching high school football on ESPN seven? What is that about? What are you doing? How much do you like football if you're watching seventeen year old boys playing football?

• 29:39Laci Mosley?

  Well, the thing is, and I actually resonate with this, is that there's some people who like, you know, when a new artist comes out or new music or like when Drake first dropped like So Far Gone and all that shit. Like some people like to be like, I saw them win. Like I knew they were gonna be a star. Like I came, I, you know, I knew. Like I remember watching, um. So in the winter, like during like Christmas and like that kind of, um, period in Texas, there's these really famous basketball tournaments that are all high school players.

• 30:08Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 30:08Laci Mosley?

  So that's where I saw, oh, what's his face? He kind of looked like a bird. Oh, oh, he's from Texas. Oh.

• 30:15Speaker 03

  Kevin Durant?

• 30:16Laci Mosley?

  For a little bit. Not Kevin.

• 30:18Speaker 03

  No, he's not from Texas. He's, he played in Texas, right?

• 30:21Laci Mosley?

  Oh, it's gonna drive me crazy. Somebody out there knows he kind of looks like a bird. He played for the Heat for a little bit. Um, oh, damn it.

• 30:26Speaker 03

  Chris, Chris, uh, Birdman.

• 30:28Laci Mosley?

  Chris Bosh.

• 30:29Speaker 03

  Chris Bosh. Oh, Chris Bosh. I thought you were like Birdman. Okay. Sure. Yeah.

• 30:34Laci Mosley?

  He kinda looks like a bird.

• 30:35Speaker 03

  A little bit. Yeah. Okay.

• 30:37Laci Mosley?

  Okay. But I saw him play like when he was in high school. So it's like, some people like to just see, you know, who's gonna be the next whatever and check it out. So I definitely think that there's an audience for watching high school football. Now, who has ESPN seven? I don't know. I didn't even know they had seven of them things.

• 30:52Speaker 03

  I just, I mean, I don't know. I don't, I like football. I like all sports, really. For hockey, I don't get that. There's no black people. I can't trust it. But, uh, what, why am I, high school football? I don't know. I don't need to go to a cocktail party and be like, did you see the, the left tackle for IMG Academy? Oh, boy, he's gonna be blocking and, and running routes and all kinds of stuff for the Seahawks one day. Like, who's gonna wanna hear me say this? I don't, I didn't ask out for the NFL. Like, who gives a fuck?

• 31:23Laci Mosley?

  Sounds like some delicious small talk to me, Dave.

• 31:26Speaker 03

  I know. I'm sure some man is going to sweep you off, uh, your feet talking about how much they love Bishop Sycamore's, uh, uh, corner.

• 31:37Laci Mosley?

  Right. So there is definitely an audience and a market for these things. And everybody didn't want to get their ass beat by IMG. So they were like, no, we're not gonna do it. So I bet when Prep, uh, Gridiron called Bishop Sycamore and they're like, hey, Bishop Sycamore, don't hang up.

• 31:53Laci Mosley?

  We got an opportunity for you. Great opportunity.

• 31:57Laci Mosley?

  Bishop Sycamore was like, huh? Okay, we playing who? IMG? Okay, that sound good. We gonna be there. I mean, it's I'm good. No, always stand for something. Okay, yeah, no, we'll be there.

• 32:10Speaker 03

  They're just starting to read it instead of it being an acronym. Yeah, that's a good school.

• 32:15Laci Mosley?

  It was like, drop the address. We gonna pull up. Yeah. Okay, do y'all got parking?

• 32:21Speaker 03

  Do you validate?

• 32:23Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, no, we not coming in a bus. We, uh, everybody, uh, coming individually. We got four Honda Fitz.

• 32:29Speaker 03

  Yeah, there won't be a team meal. We just got orange slices in a, like a cooler.

• 32:34Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, do y'all have coolers? This, let me, let me ask you, does IMG have coolers that like, maybe they could share? Like, it's like a one, one water situation or?

• 32:43Speaker 03

  Y'all like Capri Suns?

• 32:45Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, and they got trainers too, right? Okay, so what happens if we don't have trainers? Like, if we get injured, could we use IMG's trainers or do y'all provide medical?

• 32:54Speaker 03

  Yeah, none of these kids have health insurance, unfortunately. And that's probably true. Oh, God.

• 32:59Laci Mosley?

  We also down three cups.

• 33:04Speaker 03

  Why you gotta write your name on it? So people don't throw them away.

• 33:08Laci Mosley?

  So, yeah, we could, we could use one shoulder pad if y'all got it.

• 33:15Laci Mosley?

  Add shit up. So, of course, they're the ones who are foolish enough to do this. Many expected the game to be between two top-tier academies. As Bishop Sycamore was touted to be the IMG of the West. No, they didn't. As well as have a number of Division One prospects on their roster. I love that they basically were just like, oh, IMG's good. Yeah, we're the IMG of the West. We're the AMG of the West.

• 33:43Speaker 03

  The announcers during this game were like, yeah, we've heard a lot of great things about Bishop Sycamore, this school, you know, they're, they're tough. They're, they come out there and they play hard. And then by like the third quarter, they're like, guys, I think we've been, we've been scammed by these dudes. I'm not sure that these are actual football players.

• 34:00Laci Mosley?

  They started to get scared for them. You can tell it went from like, first of all, I love some anchors just lying and be like, we've heard amazing, like, let me tell you, boy, Terrell out there, Terrell, he's the one to watch. And they're like, you've done no research on this school. Y'all just up here lying. Like,

• 34:15Speaker 03

  Yeah, I have some, I have some podcasts and people come on, they're like, yeah, I just did this, I wrote this book. I'm like, cool book. Yeah, it was really great. I read the whole thing. And I'm like, I never read the fucking book. Come on.

• 34:25Laci Mosley?

  Right.

• 34:26Speaker 03

  Come on.

• 34:26Laci Mosley?

  Y'all need to get into this book, because it's ever read that. No, I have, I at least tried to read like a, a chapter or two, so I can like, throw out some facts and be like, I read it, you know?

• 34:36Speaker 03

  Kind. You're very kind. I'm not. I'm, I'm a mean person.

• 34:40Laci Mosley?

  You're not, Dave. You don't even sound mean.

• 34:43Speaker 03

  I don't. I don't. I'm the one who got scammed at the bar, remember?

• 34:46Laci Mosley?

  You did. I don't know if you can achieve being mean. Like, that bartender was like, hold on, um, poverty's calling. Oh.

• 34:54Speaker 03

  Poverty's calling?

• 34:57Speaker 03

  It just comes up on her phone, poverty.

• 34:59Laci Mosley?

  Poverty.

• 35:00Speaker 03

  Shit.

• 35:00Laci Mosley?

  So scam likely, just said poverty. Shit, it's poverty again. God, this poverty's beating my ass.

• 35:06Speaker 03

  Do you mind if I put this little speaker? Yeah, hello? Yeah, it's me, poverty. God damn it, stop calling.

• 35:13Laci Mosley?

  Just want to let you know, you're still here.

• 35:16Speaker 03

  Bills are coming up. It's 15th. Let's go. We get it done.

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• 37:27Laci Mosley?

  So IMG dominated Bishop Sycamore, scoring 24 points by the first quarter and finishing with a score of 58-0. At that point, IMG is just being disrespectful. Like, bitch, you gotta beat they asses. Just go home, shake handshake, like, just, you know, I feel like you don't have to do anything after halftime. Also, does Bishop Sycamore have cheerleaders? Because if IMG had cheerleaders with...

• 37:51Speaker 03

  No, they couldn't afford cheerleaders. They don't have cheerleaders at the 99 Cent store. What are you talking about?

• 37:58Laci Mosley?

  It's just their cousins in, like, some spirit of Halloween. They go to spirit of Halloween, they get a bunch of Miss Cheerleading costumes. They're like, yo, tell our niece and them to round they friends up. Like what's a Bishop Sycamore cheer? B. Ah.

• 38:14Speaker 03

  What's after that? I don't know. It doesn't matter.

• 38:16Laci Mosley?

  Bishop. We sick, we sick, we sick.

• 38:22Speaker 03

  We sick. You did a better job than I thought you would coming up with a with a chant there. That's not bad.

• 38:27Laci Mosley?

  Like we sick and we definitely legit. We.

• 38:31Speaker 03

  Sick and more. Sick a more. Yeah, really?

• 38:34Laci Mosley?

  Sick a more. Oh, yeah, we could do this. It's just like very mismatched roster. I love this. So IMG beat the asses. It almost immediately became clear that Bishop Sycamore was dangerously outmatched and the game went as the game went on commentators began to question the legitimacy of the school's claims, none of which could be verified. So we have a little video here of where the announcers start to really figure out that some ain't right. And what I love is like the announcers, like you were saying, Dave, they come in. So hype. They're like, these are going to be the best schools. It's gonna be a really tough game, da, da, da. And then I love the shift from like, oh, this is gonna be a great game to like, oh, my God, are these people gonna die?

• 39:16Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's like if I go on a first date and I'm like, oh, man, this would be awesome. And then you start to realize that this person is like really into crystals or like MAGA or something and you're like, oh, no.

• 39:27Laci Mosley?

  Damn, how you go juxtapose crystals and MAGA like that? They are not the equivalent of each other.

• 39:34Speaker 03

  There are a lot of crystal people who are anti-vax. That's all I'm saying.

• 39:38Laci Mosley?

  Okay, I've charged my rose quartz, but I got the vaccine. Like, wow. I can't believe you're gonna put me. I can't believe you said crystal. You was like, crystal people, you know, Nazis.

• 39:49Speaker 03

  Listen, I'm not saying they're exactly the same, all right? They're not exactly the same. They're just, you know, a little cookie.

• 39:58Laci Mosley?

  Wow. Anyways. I just wanna know what a stone did to you. I just wanna know what.

• 40:05Speaker 03

  I don't know, the stones didn't do anything other than ruin some of my relationships with women, that's all. Like, I can't, I can't live with you like this if you're worshiping a rock. Come on.

• 40:17Laci Mosley?

  We're not worshiping it. The rock is vibes.

• 40:22Speaker 03

  You, you and your vibes, alright? Vibes are not currency, okay? You can't trade goods and services for vibes.

• 40:28Laci Mosley?

  You definitely can. That's pretty much my whole entire career.

• 40:32Speaker 03

  Does I Carly pay you in vibes? No, they pay you on American currency.

• 40:35Laci Mosley?

  But I show up and I give them vibes. That's why they hired me to do vibes to them.

• 40:40Speaker 03

  Alright, now I-

• 40:41Laci Mosley?

  Right now, we doing vibes to the congregation. Yeah, I said doing vibes. I'm doing vibes to them.

• 40:47Speaker 03

  What are you doing in the bathroom, Dave? I'm doing vibes. Well, come out. Stop doing vibes all night.

• 40:53Laci Mosley?

  You're making it sound like drugs. I don't like that. I don't like this disrespect for the Crystal Community. We didn't do nothing.

• 40:59Speaker 03

  I'm addicted to vibes.

• 41:01Laci Mosley?

  So, let's play this video. Uh, we've got some commentators from ESPN. This went viral on Twitter.

• 41:07Speaker 07

  Bishop Sycamore told us they had a number of Division One prospects on their roster. To be frank, a lot of that, we could not verify.

• 41:18Laci Mosley?

  He said they told us, like, they definitely lying.

• 41:20Speaker 07

  In the databases of other recruiting services. So, it's okay. If that's what you're telling us, fine, that's how we take it in. From what we've seen so far, this is not a fair fight. And, and there's gotta be a point now, Lugs, where you do worry about helping save-

• 41:35Laci Mosley?

  Where to get them headsets? They probably let them borrow them.

• 41:38Speaker 03

  Those are, those are video game headsets.

• 41:42Speaker 03

  Those are Xbox headsets. They're wireless.

• 41:46Laci Mosley?

  Okay, you can pause it. Oh, I, I love the headsets, cuz there's something very funny to me, like them walking around pretending to talk in the headsets, but then, like, you keep seeing them talking to each other face to face. It's like, they have headsets, but they keep walking down the field to talk. Kind of, they're just not connected to anything.

• 42:03Speaker 03

  It's like if you're a chef and you're like, "Yeah, I've seen that they wear those hats. So, I should probably wear the hat, right? Like, the funny hat? The big white hat? Yeah, I'm gonna get a big white hat, so I can work at Denny's."

• 42:15Laci Mosley?

  Right. It's like they all have the headset, like, wrapped around the back of their neck, like they see on TV. It's like, they, they don't use them at all. There's cords hanging off of them.

• 42:23Speaker 03

  Who are you talking to? There's no microphone there. What's going on, man? I love that this dude is like in this video is like, yeah, we, we, we did our research and we couldn't find anything on any of these players. Like, well, why didn't you broach the subject before they started the game?

• 42:38Laci Mosley?

  Nobody wanted to play. Nobody wanted to play. Okay, Dave, damn, this is the best they could find.

• 42:45Speaker 03

  I just feel bad for the announcers who were like, yeah, I guess we should have said something when, you know, we did our pregame research and all these guys just had like criminal records or something. This is not right.

• 42:57Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, every time we Google, we kept getting 404 error not found, but that's the why. We just thought maybe it was the wifi. I don't know. Their vibes seemed like they were a football team. So we just went with that.

• 43:10Speaker 03

  ESPN chose this team based on vibes and that's fine. As we were told earlier in the podcast, vibes are currency. And so what we got out of this game was a hell of a lot of vibes.

• 43:21Laci Mosley?

  Right. And didn't we, because we're talking about it right now. I had a great time. I'm so glad they did this. It sounds great to me. Also, I love when white people, because you know how white people like won't like, and no shade, white people out there, but there's a certain language that white people use instead of being direct that we all know and speak. And sometimes it is exhausting. So I love this white man being like, instead of be like, they lying. Like he was just like, he was like, we were told that they were a team with division one athletes. When we researched, nothing was found. Okay.

• 43:59Speaker 03

  Yeah, he's both simultaneously passing the buck and not blaming anyone at all.

• 44:06Laci Mosley?

  Right.

• 44:06Speaker 03

  Well, okay, so it's not my fault that this team is getting their ass kicked on TV, but it's no one else's fault either. As far as I know, this just kind of happened.

• 44:16Laci Mosley?

  This just happened. Here we are. He was like, they had said that they were good. And well.

• 44:25Speaker 03

  I always just believe everyone.

• 44:28Laci Mosley?

  They seem to be struggling to be good today.

• 44:33Speaker 03

  Maybe it was just today. Maybe they didn't, they didn't have a good meal. Maybe the vibes are off. I don't know. Something's not going well for Bishop Sycamore today.

• 44:42Laci Mosley?

  They might be a little tired because it seems as though everyone plays every position.

• 44:47Speaker 03

  I mean, I'm shocked that this man said anything. Now, I'm sure you haven't noticed, but my father is a white man and he would just not say anything about the problem. He just ignore it until someone, my mother started screaming at him. So the fact that this guy said anything instead of like, well, fun game today. All right, I'm gonna go, I'm gonna go have a whiskey and go to sleep is amazing. I can, good for him being such a, an upfront, honest white person.

• 45:16Laci Mosley?

  So, this is why this is shady. Shortly after, well, one, shortly after this game, Bishop Sycamore was taken off the schedule entirely and it, as it became clear that the school was far shadier than expected. So what's shady about it? Several concerning facts were immediately observed about Bishop Sycamore. Just two days before their game with IMG, Bishop Sycamore played against Stow Rocks High School, which they lost 19 to 7. Okay, they got a touchdown though. Okay, okay. So Bishop Sycamore had the same starting quarterback both games and frequently had players with the same numbers in the same alignment in both games. So this is kind of what we're talking about. A lot of these players played both ways in both games, meaning the kids had one day

• 46:01Laci Mosley?

  of rest after playing offense and defense before doing it all over again against maybe the most talented team in the country. No, it's recommended by USA Football that there should be no more than one full contact game or live action scrimmage per week. So if we're talking about just their health and safety, this is really dangerous. Also, we're talking like CTE, we're talking about full tackle football, like this is not good for your brain.

• 46:25Speaker 03

  Yeah, even NFL players, when they play on three days rest are struggling. Like if you play a Thursday night football game, then you play a Monday or a Sunday game, you know, that's, that's intense. That's really bad for your body.

• 46:38Laci Mosley?

  So, this posed a great deal of health and safety issues made obvious when several players suffered injuries. During the IMG game, it was also appeared that Bishop Sycamore had mismatched helmets and potentially not enough helmets for the entire team, which again was only 30 to 35.

• 46:55Speaker 03

  One dude comes out with a goldfish bowl on his head, that's not gonna cut it, man. Jeez.

• 47:01Laci Mosley?

  He was like, I got some bubble wraps.

• 47:05Laci Mosley?

  I'll wrap that around real good.

• 47:07Speaker 03

  Just four pillows.

• 47:08Laci Mosley?

  Right. We see somebody just four pillows with duct tape around them.

• 47:12Speaker 03

  Two holes cut in the front pillow.

• 47:14Laci Mosley?

  And everybody's playing both ways. So if y'all don't got enough helmets, like what you doing? Like where you get an extra helmet? Like when do y'all switch? It's like they keep like giving passing that one helmet back and forth. They're like, well, we on office right now, so I don't really need it. But when we get back on defense.

• 47:29Speaker 03

  No helmet at all. You don't need that. Who cares? Why you wearing a helmet in the first place?

• 47:36Laci Mosley?

  Right. You go trip and fall. You don't need a damn helmet. Ted over here talking about he want a helmet like.

• 47:44Laci Mosley?

  When you go back to being the offensive lineman, you can't have your helmet.

• 47:48Speaker 03

  Who made you the king of England with this helmet you want to have? Come on.

• 47:52Laci Mosley?

  Right. They think, what do you think? We rich? Like the helmet?

• 47:56Speaker 03

  This guy is uppity all of a sudden. Won the helmet.

• 47:59Laci Mosley?

  So additionally, Bishop Sycamore didn't have an away white jersey. Both teams played in black, which made it hard on spectators and even players themselves to tell the teams apart. So you on the field, you tackling somebody like, it's me, Craig.

• 48:17Speaker 03

  The announcers are like, ah, the guy in black, number forty seven, just hit number twenty two. I'm not sure who it is. There's no names on there. They're all wearing masks, basically. What a fucking mess.

• 48:31Laci Mosley?

  Say, why you blocking me, Craig? Damn. No. Go for him. We on the same team. Uh, yeah, this is a hot, hot mess. Before the twenty twenty one game where they got outed, Bishop Sycamore was originally founded as a Christian of Faith Academy in twenty eighteen by Andre Peterson, who also coaches the team's offensive and defensive line. So their head coach at the time, Roy Johnson, who was responsible for the team, you know, as a whole, uh, basically like COF, the Christian of Faith Academy shut down after just one season, but shortly after reopened as Bishop Sycamore. They said that didn't work, that didn't work.

• 49:07Speaker 03

  I love a good rebrand. You know, it's like Facebook changes their name to Meta and all the problems are solved.

• 49:12Laci Mosley?

  All the problems. I love, like, is that really what they're gonna change it to? Is that the name they picked?

• 49:17Speaker 03

  Meta, yeah, yeah.

• 49:19Laci Mosley?

  What?

• 49:19Speaker 03

  You're too busy going out having a good time. You don't see the internet. You don't see the news.

• 49:23Laci Mosley?

  Okay, I knew that they were changing their name, but I didn't know to what.

• 49:26Speaker 03

  Meta.

• 49:27Laci Mosley?

  Meta?

• 49:27Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 49:28Laci Mosley?

  That's a terrible name.

• 49:29Speaker 03

  I agree. But you know what? I think Bishop Sycamore was a better name than Christian.

• 49:33Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, Bishop Sycamore sounds like a school. It sounds fancy. It sounds like, you know, you gotta pay tuition. You gotta have a little interview or whatever to get your kid in there.

• 49:41Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's Preparatory Academy.

• 49:43Laci Mosley?

  It's a preparatory academy. It's giving like, you know.

• 49:47Speaker 03

  Kids wear bow ties.

• 49:49Laci Mosley?

  The parents will help their kid cover up a murder. It's giving like, they got money.

• 49:53Speaker 03

  Yeah, you ever see school ties? Kind of like that.

• 49:56Laci Mosley?

  You know, they made Bishop Sycamore did the rebrand thing. Despite promises of large new facilities, it appears the school was and has only ever been a purely online school with next to no information about it available online. How your school gonna be an online school but ain't no information about it online? That's where y'all live.

• 50:15Speaker 03

  Yeah, where are the classes taking place? How do you sign up for the school?

• 50:20Laci Mosley?

  The school is vibes.

• 50:21Speaker 03

  It's vibes, yeah. It's like, it smells like education is happening.

• 50:25Laci Mosley?

  If you feel like you go to Bishop Sycamore, guess what? You do.

• 50:29Speaker 03

  But you still have to pay.

• 50:31Laci Mosley?

  If you think about Bishop Sycamore like three, four times a day, guess what? You're enrolled.

• 50:36Speaker 03

  Say Bishop Sycamore three times, just like Candyman, it will appear.

• 50:40Laci Mosley?

  And it will appear. The school will appear. You just gotta do the incantation and then the.

• 50:47Speaker 03

  Lights are cancelled. Get, get, get some moon rocks or some gems or some fucking stones.

• 50:52Laci Mosley?

  Now, you know, you keep crystals out of your mouth, okay? You can't talk about crystals, no.

• 50:57Speaker 03

  All right, fine.

• 50:58Laci Mosley?

  You keep my name out your mouth. I'm Crystals.

• 51:01Speaker 03

  Okay, I'm sorry about that.

• 51:03Laci Mosley?

  I'm about to light a candle right now. I can't believe this shit.

• 51:07Laci Mosley?

  It's okay, I'm gonna get rid of you. I'm gonna get rid of your vibes. I'm with my candle and my sage.

• 51:11Speaker 03

  Time to be gone.

• 51:13Laci Mosley?

  Right? So there's also no indication that it has any students outside of its football team. I love this slow unraveling that's also written like the announcer. There's no indication that there's any student. It's like, yes, there's no students. It's a fake school and it's only a football team. And they are kind of people for coins. So the football team known as Bishop Sycamore first played in 2019 during which they went four at five against a variety of smaller schools. None of them located in Ohio. On August 27th, 2019, they were removed from playing against the mainland high school in the Freedom Bowl, a private football tournament in Milton, Georgia for breach of contract. Following failure to submit their rosters and book hotel rooms in time.

• 51:57Laci Mosley?

  So they were like, we don't know who's playing for your team. Bishop Sycamore was like, we don't know either. And when we do, we gonna call y'all down. We said we gonna figure it out.

• 52:09Laci Mosley?

  Like, why you need to know right now?

• 52:10Speaker 03

  What's the rush? Okay, you know what?

• 52:12Laci Mosley?

  The game night today?

• 52:13Speaker 03

  We got some leads, some players. We got some resumes coming in from indeed.com. We got this.

• 52:21Laci Mosley?

  We got this. We go, we hanging out at the local gym, seeing who's fit.

• 52:25Speaker 03

  Playing basketball, hanging out at the, at the crunch gym or like, uh, 24 hour fitness, like, that guy looks like he could throw a football, right?

• 52:34Laci Mosley?

  Right. We go to the basketball court, not the same sport, but you know, we're just looking for athleticism.

• 52:40Speaker 03

  I just like how you look at that jersey. It's fun.

• 52:42Laci Mosley?

  Right. It just feel like you got good calves. You could definitely do something.

• 52:45Speaker 03

  Vibes. You're talking about vibes again.

• 52:47Laci Mosley?

  They didn't book their hotel rooms in time. I'm sure they were like, well, we gotta, who got hotel money? Like, we gotta figure that out. We actually was gonna stay at Airbnb, the whole football team, all 35 of us. We got it. We got a two bedroom. We gonna fit everybody in there. That's what we doing. So that was a little shady situation, but they weren't outed to be a fake school at the time. So it kind of was just like they took an L, but they kept doing their fake school thing. There were additionally safety concerns as many of the student athletes looked older than high school age. Yeah, cuz they were grown ass men. This is like a Will Ferrell, Ferrell movie, like, in the making.

• 53:27Speaker 03

  He's got gray hair on his temples.

• 53:31Laci Mosley?

  Did y'all see the guy on Bishop Sycamore team, uh, the one with the walker? He said he got gout.

• 53:36Speaker 03

  This motherfucker is collecting social security already. What is happening?

• 53:40Laci Mosley?

  No, he said something about he can't come because he on probation for unpaid child support. And he said he been on probation for ten years. I was like, what?

• 53:47Speaker 03

  Yeah, I got a.

• 53:48Laci Mosley?

  Where did you have the baby?

• 53:50Speaker 03

  Yeah, I can't.

• 53:51Laci Mosley?

  How old is the kid? Yeah, one of them over there uh was giving me advice about college because they said they son in college too.

• 54:01Laci Mosley?

  Like, how old are these men?

• 54:05Speaker 03

  They're like, they're like twenty, like twenty-five or something, isn't it?

• 54:08Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 54:09Speaker 03

  I can't believe that anybody believed this. Like, would these dudes show up on the bus and they walk out? You're like, yeah, that's an adult man. How are you getting duped? That's an adult human being, a grown man. What is this shit?

• 54:22Laci Mosley?

  That's when the kind of like blackness of it all comes in. Like, we we're all aged up as black people in the eyes of white people in the eyes of media anyway. So they probably were like, well, you know, they all look grown to me once they turn eleven, so.

• 54:37Speaker 03

  Oh, gosh. I mean, you're probably right.

• 54:40Laci Mosley?

  It's a really dark uh thing, but yeah, so you know, but they they grown grown. So many players that already graduated from high school and there were like four or five kids that were twenty, twenty-one and had children of their own. Like, we were joking. They fully got kids. Um, for lack of an actual campus, athletes were housed in a hotel for five months, paid for with bounced checks. And the only education provided was to visit a public library and a single religion class taught by Coach Johnson. So Coach Johnson's also leading Bible study. Um, if you ever watched the the TV show The Game, it's very much giving like they had like one Bible study session a month at somebody living room.

• 55:18Speaker 03

  I feel bad for Coach Johnson when they get to the part in the Bible where they talk about thou shalt not steal. Because he's just ripping these dudes off. Yes. You know who he's stealing from? He's stealing. From those people that are on the team, Lacey, he's stealing from those people saying, I'm gonna give you an education and then he teaches one Bible study class and tells them to fuck off to the library.

• 55:42Laci Mosley?

  I'm sure that's what they want. I'm sure that's what they want. I'm sure they weren't like, no, we would actually love to go to class like.

• 55:48Speaker 03

  Sure, but he also promised.

• 55:49Laci Mosley?

  Marine biologist.

• 55:50Speaker 03

  Sure, but he's also promising them that they can maybe get into a division one or division two football program.

• 55:56Laci Mosley?

  Right.

• 55:56Speaker 03

  That's a fucking lie, too.

• 55:57Laci Mosley?

  It's a risk for sure. I mean, a risk is like insane what's happening. I'm calling it a risk. But also he was stealing from those hotels. I don't know how you get a hotel for five months and the checks bounce and they just, I guess they're squatters rights, but I'm like, how do y'all?

• 56:11Speaker 03

  Oh, I was bouncing checks on an apartment for a while. I'd bounce the check.

• 56:15Laci Mosley?

  There's squatters rights.

• 56:16Speaker 03

  Yes, there's squatters rights, but I don't know if you have squatters rights for a hotel.

• 56:20Laci Mosley?

  That's what I'm thinking. So you bounce a check for apartment. Wait, what happened?

• 56:23Speaker 03

  Oh, so I bounced a check and then I would be able to, like, I'd get my next paycheck and then I would just, like, give them another one. They'd be like, okay, so we had to pay a late fee for the bounced check, but you could still pay in like another seven days. And so I was able to then cover the costs.

• 56:39Laci Mosley?

  No, why do the whole rigmarole? Like, why not just hit them up and be like, hey, I need seven days? Like, you're like, here's your check on time, Mr. Landlord. I love capitalism. Is that your boot? Let me take a lick.

• 56:52Speaker 03

  Because sometimes, you know, it's better to just lie about the problem than actually address it, which is what I got from my white father.

• 57:01Laci Mosley?

  Put that on White People Day.

• 57:05Speaker 03

  Yeah, I shouldn't blame all of my problems on being half white, should I?

• 57:09Laci Mosley?

  I mean, but you could do most. I can blame most of my problems on being black. So it's cool. We could, we could do, we could do many. Now, my love for crystals.

• 57:19Speaker 03

  Yeah, I'm not sure where that's coming from. I really don't.

• 57:21Laci Mosley?

  It's also not a problem. See?

• 57:23Speaker 03

  You're right.

• 57:24Laci Mosley?

  How you think?

• 57:25Speaker 03

  It's only how you perceive the situation. I perceive it to be, you know, a little quirky thing that you do. That's fine.

• 57:32Laci Mosley?

  Don't discriminate. I don't like that. I don't like that. So the players, the players were also not provided with food and some players resorted to stealing from supermarkets to eat. Oh, okay, this is sad, Dave. You're right. This man was cheating these young men.

• 57:45Speaker 03

  He was destroying their lives.

• 57:47Laci Mosley?

  Twenty twenty one isn't an adult. Your brain isn't fully developed. Like, I don't think it's until, what, you're twenty five till it's fully developed?

• 57:54Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 57:54Laci Mosley?

  And like, they're young, they're broke, they're trying to steal food. All they want to do is join the NFL. Okay, it's getting a little sad. Now I'm like, Coach Johnson, sue a bitch.

• 58:03Speaker 03

  Scam ESPN and IMG all you want. Don't scam these, these twenty one year old guys who are trying to make a living. That's sad.

• 58:10Laci Mosley?

  And how can they not eat? And how can they not afford to eat if y'all are playing these kind of payola football games? Like, you're not, you're making some money. You must be making a coin if you're keeping up this big of a grift. So, and you're not paying for the hotels. So who, where's the money going, Coach?

• 58:25Speaker 03

  All those headsets and headphones.

• 58:28Laci Mosley?

  All that.

• 58:29Speaker 03

  All those not plugged in headphones.

• 58:32Laci Mosley?

  Sports at Cool Trip Mall.

• 58:34Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 58:34Laci Mosley?

  They went to Radio Shack and said, run it up.

• 58:37Speaker 03

  Radio Shack? You still got Radio Shack? Circuit City?

• 58:42Laci Mosley?

  I feel like it's like one Radio Shack left. There's a few. Circuit City, oh lord.

• 58:48Speaker 03

  Let me get my Texas Instruments calculator, solar powered.

• 58:52Laci Mosley?

  Right. That's fancy.

• 58:54Speaker 03

  I know, I have a solar powered one.

• 58:56Laci Mosley?

  So apparently Coach Johnson recruited the students with the prospect of practicing at Ohio State facilities. In reality, they had practiced outside of an apartment complex that housed students of Ohio State.

• 59:08Speaker 03

  Mm mm, mm mm, were they playing in the parking lot?

• 59:11Laci Mosley?

  Okay, so listen. Vinnie Lido.

• 59:13Speaker 03

  They, they valet the car and then they go back to practice.

• 59:17Laci Mosley?

  He said, how about we play in that Ohio State, the top of the line facilities? And then they got to the facilities and he was like, alright, so by facilities, I mean, we're gonna be in that parking lot across the street from the facilities. But you can see the facilities from here.

• 59:32Speaker 03

  Better be, it better be a no contact practice. If you go down on that asphalt, you're breaking a bone.

• 59:37Laci Mosley?

  Right. Y'all playing on the parking lot?

• 59:39Speaker 03

  Now, we got a bouncy house. You guys could just hit each other as much as you want. It's fun.

• 59:44Laci Mosley?

  Oh, well, he said outside of an apartment complex. So maybe they're not in the parking lot. Maybe they're in the grass and they're like, okay, the sprinkler's finna come on. So we gotta get this last, do this last route.

• 59:53Speaker 03

  They're gonna do Shakespeare in the Park later, so we better wrap up. It's Henry VIII, so it'll be really long.

• 59:58Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, also, if campus security comes over here, just, uh, don't, don't tell them what we doing.

• 1:00:05Speaker 03

  You guys playing football? No.

• 1:00:07Laci Mosley?

  Tell them we go to Ohio State. No, we're all cousins.

• 1:00:10Speaker 03

  So that's a football in your hand? No, it's not. Not a football? And they just throw it away.

• 1:00:16Laci Mosley?

  It's not, no, we were just standing out here, you know, vibes.

• 1:00:21Speaker 03

  It's a, this is a great, just like fallback, just say vibes.

• 1:00:24Laci Mosley?

  Right, it works for everything. The school struggled to maintain coaches as eighty percent of the coaching staff quit during the season and the team was left to just two coaches and one mother of a player.

• 1:00:38Laci Mosley?

  So, your mama, not your mama, gotta come coach the team.

• 1:00:42Speaker 03

  Yeah, now you're scamming mothers out here.

• 1:00:45Laci Mosley?

  Right, so the school's illegal practices, at one point, so many players had active arrest warrants that the team could not fly to away games. Damn, everybody on the no-fly list, god damn.

• 1:00:57Speaker 03

  You got El Kada on your team, what's going on?

• 1:00:59Laci Mosley?

  Right, right.

• 1:01:01Speaker 03

  Taliban motherfuckers showing up, play football.

• 1:01:04Laci Mosley?

  We had to recruit where we could, okay, so.

• 1:01:08Laci Mosley?

  We actually saw an ad on Craigslist for joining the Taliban and we went and was like, would y'all like to play some football?

• 1:01:15Speaker 03

  Yeah, you guys seem like you like to hang out with other men, you know?

• 1:01:19Laci Mosley?

  Right.

• 1:01:21Speaker 03

  Work together for a common purpose, what about football?

• 1:01:25Laci Mosley?

  Fine with dangerous activity, doesn't seem like a lot of you have any regard for like health or safety if you're gonna live a long time.

• 1:01:32Speaker 03

  You guys don't mind living on a cot.

• 1:01:36Speaker 03

  Come on down.

• 1:01:38Laci Mosley?

  I feel like they're the perfect recruits for Mr. Slicker's team. Oh, it's like.

• 1:01:45Speaker 03

  We just can't fly, just can't fly anywhere, but other than that, we're good.

• 1:01:49Laci Mosley?

  Right, can't fly anywhere, but everything else is good. They were like, yeah, we got a game in Puerto Rico, okay, I'mma, I'mma catch a boat.

• 1:01:55Speaker 03

  You guys got like a, you know, like a scooter or something?

• 1:01:58Laci Mosley?

  There's a Carnival cruise that drops off in Puerto Rico, I'mma just make them a last stop.

• 1:02:02Speaker 03

  They all got Carnival cruise money out of your mind?

• 1:02:05Laci Mosley?

  That's very true. That's very true, they ain't got a Carnival coin, you right about that. Um, so the team also struggled with camaraderie. A former player claimed that there were at least five fights every round.

• 1:02:18Speaker 03

  Five, five. Well, if you don't feed people, you make them play football in an open field or a parking lot, and then you make them all live together in a tiny little like apartment complex or something. Yeah, they're gonna fight each other. They get real pissed off.

• 1:02:36Laci Mosley?

  Five fights just feels like too many fights.

• 1:02:39Speaker 03

  Five fights every practice. And after the second fight, I'm like, all right, let's take a break.

• 1:02:46Laci Mosley?

  Like, right. Every time you, every time you go get water, like, oh, they're fighting again. Damn. All right. Well, I'm giving five minutes.

• 1:02:55Speaker 03

  Yeah. They'll wear each other out. Eventually, they'll get tired.

• 1:02:59Laci Mosley?

  But you're not gonna be able to run your rounds if y'all keep fighting in between every play.

• 1:03:05Laci Mosley?

  Trying to get it down to like three fights of practice.

• 1:03:08Speaker 03

  I wish they had got to do a fight during the game, like with each other. It's like, what are they doing? Oh, he said something about his mom and that just wasn't cool.

• 1:03:15Laci Mosley?

  Right. And you know, his mom do be coaching the team.

• 1:03:19Laci Mosley?

  Somebody said she be doing after hour coaching.

• 1:03:21Speaker 03

  Hey, my mom is my ride home. Fuck you.

• 1:03:25Laci Mosley?

  Oh, goodness. So, yeah, this is absolutely unhinged. These poor young men, and also the fact that they literally are not getting anything that they were told that they were supposed to get. So, when Bishop Sycamore was COF, it was under the federal investigation for use of counterfeit currency, credit and debit card fraud, computer fraud, and potential other online crime. So, when it was COF, that was the Christian of faith or whatever they have. So, they were over here doing all the crime and also never taught a single class. Just did crime. Credit card fraud. Like, they up for everything. Computer fraud. What is computer fraud?

• 1:04:10Speaker 03

  Well, these are all valuable skills to learn. I think.

• 1:04:12Laci Mosley?

  You know what? And there it is.

• 1:04:15Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:04:15Laci Mosley?

  Bishop Sycamore was a school where they educate you on how to scam. And that is a valuable skill. It is a career. You can definitely make crime a career and a passion.

• 1:04:30Speaker 03

  Yeah, I take it back about saying that they were getting taken advantage of. They learned something. They learned computer fraud. They learned wire fraud. They learned how to bounce checks effectively like.

• 1:04:41Laci Mosley?

  Right, what's your third period? I got computer fraud this uh this semester for third period. Okay, what you in? Oh, I'm in mail fraud. Oh, okay, cool.

• 1:04:49Speaker 03

  I got identity theft. Yeah.

• 1:04:51Laci Mosley?

  Oh, I took identity theft last semester. If you want my notes.

• 1:04:57Speaker 03

  Oh, my notes.

• 1:04:58Laci Mosley?

  I just need your social security number.

• 1:05:03Speaker 03

  Yeah, if you can just leave your credit card, debit card.

• 1:05:07Laci Mosley?

  Let me see your driver's license and then I'm gonna send you my note.

• 1:05:11Laci Mosley?

  That's what we learned in class.

• 1:05:12Speaker 03

  What size shoe do you wear? Seven and a half?

• 1:05:14Laci Mosley?

  Right, cool, cool, cool. I need, I just need to know so I can send the notes.

• 1:05:19Laci Mosley?

  So, how the game happened and who stands to profit? Wow, this is a long one. I didn't know that Bishop Sycamore was running all these scams. From my understanding, it was just a viral football game. And then they were just playing fake football. I didn't know they were doing all the crimes.

• 1:05:38Speaker 03

  It was a holistic crime operation. It was like Goodfellas or something, but for football.

• 1:05:43Laci Mosley?

  But for football. We play football, but we're also the mob. You get it? It goes. So, on yapi.com, which is like a forum that's dedicated specifically to Ohio school sports. So, there's like a whole website just for Ohio school sports.

• 1:05:58Speaker 03

  This is weird.

• 1:05:59Laci Mosley?

  Seems so specific and a little bizarre. So, someone made multiple posts defending the game and implying knowledge of the situation and how it could be a financial benefit. So, on one post, Jersey Flyer states, this is like a name, I guess, a fake name, online profile name. I'm obviously a risk taker, especially when I feel I have absolutely nothing to lose. I've taken similar risks in the past with fledging programs. I'm batting like point six, six, seven right now. Okay, so a promoter like P G O, which is what you were talking about before, like um, they get streaming deals. So this is like a streaming deal with ESPN and they can come in and the broke, if they broker the arrangement between the two teams, they get a cut of the streaming profits from either or both of the schools.

• 1:06:43Laci Mosley?

  They'll also require these major schools to pay certain fees in order for the unknown school to travel and take part in the game. Those fees often range between three thousand and ten thousand dollars, but have reached as high as thirty two thousand dollars for a game. Once the unknown schools play, they presumably become known entities and thus begin to cycle anew. So in Bishop Sycamore's case, Coach Roy Johnson agreed to the terms of playing a big name school as long as those schools paid for the team's travel expenses, which I'm sure when you gotta go everywhere via car, off foot.

• 1:07:17Speaker 03

  Cause your team is made up of Alkana members. Yeah, of course.

• 1:07:20Laci Mosley?

  We gonna need a lot of gas.

• 1:07:25Speaker 03

  That's the, that's a great scam. Like just this part of it where the guy's like, yeah, we'll play you if you pay, pay us to play.

• 1:07:34Laci Mosley?

  We're real good.

• 1:07:35Speaker 03

  Incredible. Yeah, we'll do it. We don't care. Just give us gas.

• 1:07:39Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, we're in Ohio. Wait, where's the game? You said upstate New York? Okay, we gonna need four days.

• 1:07:48Speaker 03

  We have four days just for travel, right?

• 1:07:52Speaker 03

  We need a couple of days just to like buy jerseys and stuff, but once we got the jersey. Yeah, we don't got any jerseys right now, but if you give us the cash, we'll play the game.

• 1:08:02Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, actually we need the money upfront because we've been, four, fourteen members are sharing a helmet and it's starting to get a little hectic.

• 1:08:11Speaker 03

  Let me get an advance on that. They keep stats for who has the most fights every, every practice. Oh yeah, Jim's got seven fights this week. It's crazy.

• 1:08:19Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, we told Jim he gotta chill. He gotta bring it down to six fights or less. We can't do this no more. Like we're tired. We're tired of Jim. So however, obviously instead of spending this money on housing or even food for the team.

• 1:08:34Speaker 03

  Of course he was.

• 1:08:36Laci Mosley?

  Such a physical sport. You are working out so much. You are burning so many calories. How can you not feed these young men? How you gonna be like, "Ate yesterday"? Now get out there and run your rats.

• 1:08:48Speaker 03

  Yeah, even even Trump paid for that school to eat McDonald's.

• 1:08:52Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 1:08:52Speaker 03

  That's the cheapest motherfucker on the planet.

• 1:08:55Laci Mosley?

  Like, how we gonna? How we gonna be having football for for dinner? Like, what?

• 1:09:02Speaker 03

  You're eating vibes for dinner tonight, guys.

• 1:09:04Laci Mosley?

  Right. Just think about food that you would like to eat.

• 1:09:08Speaker 03

  It's a secret. You think about it, it'll show up at your door.

• 1:09:11Laci Mosley?

  Just drink a lot of water. It feel like you ate a meal. It feel the same way.

• 1:09:15Speaker 03

  Say say food five times in a little beer.

• 1:09:18Laci Mosley?

  In a little beer. Um, so Bishop Sycamore, this this is where they are now. Coach Johnson was fired immediately after the game. Fired from what? The school that's not real? What are you, how are you fired?

• 1:09:31Speaker 03

  He's got fired from his own scam?

• 1:09:34Laci Mosley?

  But that's how scams work. So Bishop Sycamore's founder Andre Peterson has no intention of folding the program. It's very unlikely Bishop will play another game this season as other schools have pulled out of their scheduling games citing safety concerns for their own players. Ohio Governor Mike DeWine has ordered the state's Department of Education to investigate Bishop Sycamore. According to the court records, Roy Johnson has unpaid bills totaling over $300,000. Heartbeat Production, Kevin Hart's production company, has already announced plans to put together a docu-series on Bishop Sycamore. Please, I need it. I need to know what these five fights a day were about. I need to know if they ever got to eat anything.

• 1:10:12Laci Mosley?

  So SMAC Entertainment announced that it's paying Coach Johnson for exclusive rights and access to all television and film projects. Note that SMAC Entertainment is a talent management and production company from the former NFL strategist and executive Constance Schwartz-Marini and the pro football player Michael Strahan. So Michael Strahan's company is getting involved and they want to buy the rights. I mean, he's about to get the bag. 300K, that's gonna be nothing to him.

• 1:10:39Speaker 03

  That's nothing. Yeah, you're right.

• 1:10:41Laci Mosley?

  Man, Chris, you're you're, what's that his name? Coach Johnson. Coach Johnson, you a bad man. But you're hilarious, bro. You are bad.

• 1:10:52Speaker 03

  Unbelievable. I mean, he's, I think he's got to go in some sort of Hall of Fame for greatest most of ridiculous scams.

• 1:10:59Laci Mosley?

  Most ridiculous and also like points for style.

• 1:11:04Laci Mosley?

  Points for costumes, wardrobe.

• 1:11:08Speaker 03

  Love the headset.

• 1:11:09Laci Mosley?

  Love the headsets. Such creative lies, even to the team. You told them they're playing at Ohio State facilities and they were really playing outside of Ohio State apartments.

• 1:11:24Speaker 03

  No, the, the practice is in Ohio. Don't get me wrong.

• 1:11:28Laci Mosley?

  And it's on Ohio State's campus.

• 1:11:29Speaker 03

  The state of Ohio will, will be there. Unbelievable.

• 1:11:34Laci Mosley?

  Oh, beautiful, man. This is hilarious. I'm so proud of this, man. And it's time for my favorite segment. Why every segment's my favorite, but this is scammer of the week. This is where we highlight an honorary charlatan that we feel is worthy of our praise. So today, or maybe not, we might hate him. Let me put that out there. Disclaimer. So this week, we're keeping it NFL. So three more former NFL players have pleaded guilty to a healthcare fraud scheme, bringing the total number to 15 former NFL players pleading guilty. So Clint Portis, who most recently played for the Washington Football Team, Tamara Vanover, who played for Kansas City Chiefs and San Diego Chargers,

• 1:12:14Laci Mosley?

  and Robert McCune, who played for several NFL teams. Uh, damn, they was like, we not even go list his critics. They're like, I don't know, he played for people.

• 1:12:22Speaker 03

  You've heard of these teams. There's a lot of teams he's played for.

• 1:12:25Laci Mosley?

  There's a lot of teams, so we ain't gonna get into it.

• 1:12:29Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, he was, he was professional. So they have been doing this scheme for like years, um, and they just pled guilty. So the scheme involved, um, the Gene Upshot NFL Player Health Reimbursement Account Plan, which was created to give tax-free reimbursements to health expenses that weren't covered by insurance for up to $350,000 per player. The accused players submitted false claims and were paid out for expensive medical equipment that they never actually obtained. One player obtained over $2.9 million.

• 1:13:03Speaker 03

  What?

• 1:13:03Laci Mosley?

  Damn.

• 1:13:04Speaker 03

  Two point nine million dollars? That's more than some of these guys made in a year.

• 1:13:09Laci Mosley?

  Right. Cause what is it like the base salary? The starting is like six hundred thousand dollars?

• 1:13:13Speaker 03

  Yeah. If you're like a really low level player.

• 1:13:16Laci Mosley?

  If you're like really, yeah.

• 1:13:17Speaker 03

  That's a league minimum, something like that. Yeah.

• 1:13:19Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. So some of the expensive devices players filed for were hyperbaric oxygen chambers, cryotherapy machines, ultrasound machines designed for use by a doctor's office to conduct with its help. Examinations and electromagnetic therapy devices.

• 1:13:40Speaker 03

  Hey girl, you wanna come over to my house? You wanna do an ultrasound? That's a great way to bring somebody back to your place, isn't it?

• 1:13:46Laci Mosley?

  Oh God. It's like y'all had, y'all had consensual sex and then he's like, hey, you wanna?

• 1:13:51Speaker 03

  Let's just see what's going on down there.

• 1:13:53Laci Mosley?

  See what's going on down there.

• 1:13:56Laci Mosley?

  I love also that they were just like, these are fine things for people to buy. Like they're like, hey y'all, it's me, um, uh, what's his name? Terrell Owens. It's me, Terrell Owens. Um, I need some money for MRI machine.

• 1:14:11Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, I need one for my house.

• 1:14:13Speaker 03

  I'm gonna operate it myself. I got a remote control.

• 1:14:17Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, I got a remote.

• 1:14:17Speaker 03

  So excited. I was like, oh, look at that thing.

• 1:14:20Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. Sometimes I just be feeling like doing an MRI and you know, the, the hospital is a long wait.

• 1:14:26Speaker 03

  Yeah, I just wanna, I just wanna chill in there for a bit. It makes, it relaxes me. I watched Succession on a little, on an iPad in there.

• 1:14:33Laci Mosley?

  Do an MRI.

• 1:14:35Speaker 03

  Sometimes you wake up and you're like, God, I wish I could just do an MRI tonight.

• 1:14:39Laci Mosley?

  I do. I'm so tired of not being able to do this in my house. It's so inconvenient to go to the hospital. Like, fuck. So anyway, yeah, can y'all run me enough money for that?

• 1:14:51Speaker 03

  Fucking ultrasound is the best.

• 1:14:54Laci Mosley?

  The ultrasound is insane. Like you're, okay. So first of all, if you're playing in the NFL, you probably identify as a man, uh, and, and usually a cisgendered man. So why are they letting you buy ultrasound? For what?

• 1:15:07Speaker 03

  I truly don't know. It's like, here's a, here's my game room. Here's the study. Here's uh, my living room. Oh, that's my MRI machine. That's my, that's my ultrasound machine over there. Yeah.

• 1:15:18Laci Mosley?

  Okay. Oh, you got money?

• 1:15:20Speaker 03

  Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Definitely. Yeah. That's

• 1:15:23Laci Mosley?

  You've got MRI.

• 1:15:23Speaker 03

  There's the operating stadium where I just operate on various subjects. Like, what's going on?

• 1:15:30Laci Mosley?

  What's going on?

• 1:15:31Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:15:31Laci Mosley?

  Oh, goodness.

• 1:15:32Speaker 03

  Open heart surgery. I'm doing it.

• 1:15:34Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 1:15:35Speaker 03

  They happen here.

• 1:15:35Laci Mosley?

  It's a little harder when you're doing it all yourself, but it can't be done. It can't be done.

• 1:15:41Speaker 03

  Just like checking YouTube how to tutorials.

• 1:15:44Laci Mosley?

  How to open heart surgery. No, it can't be done. Um, so guys, that brings us to the end of a fantastic episode. Thank you so much, Dave, for coming on the show. We always ask, where do you want to be found? Where would you like people to find you?

• 1:15:58Speaker 03

  What do I want to be found? It seems like a threat. Where do you want to be found, Dave? Uh, I'm, I'm on Twitter at Dave underscore Schilling. Um, you can listen to my podcast, Galaxy Brains, every Thursday. It's me and Jonah Ray of The Meltdown Show and Mystery Science Theater 3000 fame. We talk about movies and TV. It's very silly. It's basically like half sketch comedy and half like an actual podcast about movies. So please listen to it. It's really good.

• 1:16:27Laci Mosley?

  Awesome. As always, guys, you can email us at [email protected]. Snitch on your friends and family. Just make sure your scam is retired. So we don't want, yes, fuck up your bag. If you want to follow us on Instagram, we made it to 20,000 followers, y'all. Thank you. Scam Goddess Pod. If you want to see the pictures, you definitely want to see the pictures of Mr. Sycamore, because this is a hot mess. Videos, everything will be up there. If you want to follow me and my nonsense, D I V A L A C I, Diva Lacy on all platforms, except for TikTok, where I'm Laci Mosley. Congregation. Get that merch and stay Schemin. Scam Goddess. Scam Goddess stars and is hosted by me, Laci Mosley, AKA Scam Goddess. It's produced by Judith

• 1:17:08Laci Mosley?

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