M-I-Crooked Letter, Crooked Gov’t w/ Diallo Riddle (Fraud Friday)

In this week's Fraud Friday, Laci is joined by Diallo Riddle (South Side, Sherman's Showcase) to discuss one of Mississippi’s largest state-wide corruption cases. It involves millions in state welfare funds misappropriated to powerful state officials, pro-wrestlers, and former athletes, including Brett Favre. Plus, singer Shakira has been ordered to stand trial in Spain for alleged tax fraud against the Public Treasury of Spain. Stay Schemin’! (Originally Released 10/17/2022) Follow on Instagram: Scam Goddess Pod: @scamgoddesspod Laci Mosley: @divalaci Diallo Riddle: @diallo Research by Kaelyn Brandt SOURCES: https://mississippitoday.org/2021/12/23/anna-wolfe-mississippi-welfare-fraud-case/ https://mississippitoday.org/2020/02/06/connecting-the-dots-players-in-massive-welfare-embezzlement-case-got-millions-from-taxpayers-but-helped-few/ https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2022/9/24/23368759/mississippi-welfare-fraud-scandal-brett-favre-reform https://www.bostonglobe.com/2022/09/27/opinion/brett-favre-welfare-queen/ https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/34656657/brett-favre-pressed-facility-funding-being-told-legality-question-court-filing-says https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/27/entertainment/shakira-spain-tax-case/index.html

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• 1:47Speaker 03

  She'd throw things, wander, and started hoarding. Mom's Alzheimer's was already so hard, but then we found out she had agitation that may happen with dementia due to Alzheimer's disease. And that was a different kind of difficult. So we asked her doctor for more help.

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• 2:43Laci Mosley?

  What's poppin', congregation? It's your girl, Lacey Mosley, AKA Scam Goddess. Welcome to an episode of Fraud Fridays, where we release older episodes from the Scam Goddess Vault. That's right, Fraud Fridays is where we bring back your favorite episodes from behind the paywall. Enjoy this episode from behind the paywall. And as always, stay schemin'.

• 3:25Laci Mosley?

  What's poppin', congregation? It's your girl, Lacey Mosley, and we're back with another installment of Scam Goddess, the podcast all about robbery, fraud, and those who practice it. Maybe we love 'em, maybe we hate 'em, we don't know yet. Guys, I'm very, yes, excited. We have a friend on the show and a returning guest. You guys loved his original episode, and he is back. We are welcoming Emmy and WGA-nominated writer, actor, showrunner, producer. He, along with his creative partner, also the homie, Bashir Salahhoudin. Yes, I got it.

• 4:03Laci Mosley?

  Bashir's last name, and I love that man to death. They've launched many successful projects, like the hilarious show, South Side, which if you haven't watched South Side, y'all know I am always talking about that show on this podcast, it is so good. Their Emmy-winning IFC variety comedy series, Sherman Showcase, is returning for a second season on October 26, 2022. Congregation, please welcome Diallo Riddle. What's up, Diallo?

• 4:28Speaker 06

  Thank you for having me back. I'm so excited to be here.

• 4:31Laci Mosley?

  I'm so excited to have you. We had such a good time the last time you were here, so I'm glad that we got to snag you on your your press run for the second season. Congratulations Sherman Showcase. Guys, I don't

• 4:41Speaker 06

  Thank you so much.

• 4:41Laci Mosley?

  Yes. And I popped in, I don't know if I hit the cutting room floor, y'all, so I'm not gonna say I'm gonna be on the show, but

• 4:49Speaker 06

  And I was gonna say it, but like, you know, you're gonna be so happy when you see what you did. And by the way, who knew that you had such a fantastic singing voice? That, I mean, like, I feel like it's gonna be so, you're gonna absolutely love it.

• 5:02Laci Mosley?

  Y'all are all musicians and so talented. I came to the booth that night to sing and, um, they really helped me out, okay? I hope y'all put the T-Pain, uh, auto tune on my voice.

• 5:14Speaker 06

  We had about thirty background singers. No, I mean, seriously, you have a fantastic, fantastic voice and, um, and it's what, it's actually a song that we've been trying to pull together since season one, but just it was hard logistically because, you know, people don't realize the Sherman Showcase, like, all those songs are original, so if there are multiple writers on a song, or if, you know, it's produced by somebody, you know, we have to wait till all that stuff clears legally and everybody's on the same page, but, um, you know, I, I, first exclusive, no, you know what? I'm not even gonna say anything about the song. I want people to see it. I want people to see it and love it, and you do a phenomenal job.

• 5:50Laci Mosley?

  Oh, thank you so much. You guys are amazing. Y'all do everything, literally everything.

• 5:56Speaker 06

  We're basically doing craft services.

• 5:59Speaker 06

  We're serving omelets on set, like, we just, we really do need to, like, share the, share the space, share the wealth.

• 6:04Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, you could, you could hire some more people, you could. I come into my fitting, I was like, alright, we got the tape measurer, we got

• 6:12Speaker 06

  Listen, when you're working, you know, people don't, I don't wanna get too into the weeds, but like, streaming is one thing. When you're actually still dealing with a linear show, which means like, there's still like, sponsors and advertisers and doing that whole thing, like, it's, it's tough. And like, that show, Sherman Showcase, like, we are on the budget for a linear show. That means that show has to come in at twenty minutes and thirty seconds, regardless of how much we wanna put into it. So the fact that, you know, you made the cut, so to speak, just speaks to how funny that scene was. Cause a lot of stuff is really funny, but we still have to cut it because we've got to get down to 20 minutes and 30 seconds so that they can advertise soap.

• 6:50Laci Mosley?

  But yes, and I listen, I know how it works. Cause I told this to Prentice when he was on the show, Prentice Penny from Insecure. He directed the episode that I was in a bit secure. We always joke about it because it was a dream sequence. And so I kind of already knew like, you know, it may not, whatever. And then it didn't make the show because I have friends, you know, in legal and everywhere over there. And it was so funny because they hit me up and they're like, you know, just so you know, like we got cut. And I was like, okay, that's cool. You know, I was still happy to do it. And then I remember they put my black ass in the trailer for season three.

• 7:24Laci Mosley?

  Everybody was like, oh my God, congratulations, Lacey, you're gonna be insecure. And I was like, y'all shut up, shut up, everybody shut up.

• 7:30Speaker 06

  No, no, no, don't even say it. No, you know what's funny is sometimes it's better just to be in the trailer because think about it. More people will usually see the trailer than the actual movie or TV show.

• 7:39Laci Mosley?

  Oh, I was very happy because I was like, at least I made, at least they thought I was good enough to put me in something, child. I was like, I'm not mad.

• 7:48Speaker 06

  I feel like I, I, I have the same relationship with that show. Such a fan of Insecure and Issa. And Prentice. And for years they would bring me in for auditions for parts that I would not get. And then I would watch the episode. I'd be like, oh, okay. So they got, okay. So Lil Rel is going to play Lincoln. All right. I see y'all. I see how y'all did me. You know, like, no, but seriously, I was just like always going in for parts. And then very last season, they were like, we wrote a part specifically for you to play. And then I got to get on there and, and play.

• 8:15Laci Mosley?

  And you were great. And honestly, I love that season so much. You were so funny. I mean, you're always so funny in everything that you do. I could do, I could just talk about that forever. But also I will say Insecure is one of the few shows that could get away with the character name that I had. When I, my character name was Black Woman. And on the trailer that I was in, it just said, Black Woman and then Lacey Mosley. I was like, only this, only this black ass show could be like, yes, Negro woman. That's your character. That's you. And I was proud. I was like, yes, that's me. Excuse me. No, I'm here to play black woman. Do you know who I am?

• 8:47Speaker 06

  That's so funny. You know, sometimes when we're writing scripts, we'll just, in a script, you'll just put like, you know, guy on the street. And then later in the episode, you'll be like, you know, old guy. And then when you go to cast, you're like, who's old guy? Like, what character is that? Like, it always seems to make sense when you're writing the script. But then when you get to it, you're just like, why weren't we a little more specific?

• 9:08Laci Mosley?

  And I just love like actors coming in like, yes, I'm here to read for old guy.

• 9:13Speaker 06

  Old guy? Oh, and while I'm here, can I read for black woman?

• 9:16Laci Mosley?

  You're right. I also saw nasty man, and I feel like I would be really great for that. So.

• 9:22Speaker 06

  I'm very, I'm very sensitive what you call, you know, these characters. Cause sometimes you'll just use a shorthand and then you'll be like, do we really want to bring in somebody to read for the part of, of stupid man? Like, you know, like, you'll just be like, hmm, maybe we should be a little more, or just give them a name. Just call him, you know, Clarence. Shout out to all the people named Clarence out there. I ain't trying to say anything in particular about Clarence.

• 9:41Laci Mosley?

  No, listen, my daddy named Clarence. One of my.

• 9:44Speaker 06

  Oh, see, you know, and he, and he's brilliant. So there you go.

• 9:47Laci Mosley?

  I love that. But no, I think a lot of actors are desensitized to it now because a lot of us start out in commercial work. At commercial, there is nothing more disrespectful than a commercial audition breakdown. They'd be like, we're looking for uglies.

• 10:01Speaker 06

  I've seen that in scripts and I'm like, y'all, we just, just retire the U word, man. I'm like, I, I get it. I get it. We're in comedy. We're not supposed to. But like, I always feel bad for the people who come in. I'm like, I hope you have enough self-respect to know that like, we don't actually think of you like that.

• 10:16Laci Mosley?

  Well, now they code it. They're like, we're looking for real types, faces that have character.

• 10:25Speaker 06

  Talking all around it, right?

• 10:26Laci Mosley?

  Right.

• 10:28Speaker 06

  Down to, down to earth roommate. You know, you're like, okay, I know what that is. I'm gonna wear a sloppy sweater.

• 10:34Laci Mosley?

  We need somebody whose smile has never lit up a room. Okay. That's what we looking for. But y'all have to ask you on the show. We always ask. You know, you've been on the show before. What's your relationship with scams? Do you love them? Do you hate them? It can literally be anything. If you've run some outside the statute of limitations, if some have been run on you, literally anything.

• 10:57Speaker 06

  I'd like to be very honest, you know, when I'm talking to you and I'm not, I am not a narc, but I am definitely not the person to share your scams with because I don't want to know. Like, I just, I feel like I was on that Pharrell thing. I saw that video of Pharrell talking about like, don't, don't talk to me because I will snitch. Like, I'm definitely like the person like, I don't want to know. Like, you know, just let me just think that you afford that Rolex just through completely legal means. I don't, I don't want to know.

• 11:26Laci Mosley?

  Right. So if you go to the investigation room, you're like, give me a pen and paper. I'll tell y'all everything.

• 11:31Speaker 06

  I want deny. I don't even want plausible deniability. I want deniability. I just want to be like, hey, I just thought that they were buying those McLarens with their, you know, grandma savings. Like, I just.

• 11:41Laci Mosley?

  Right. P P E. I had, what's that?

• 11:45Speaker 06

  Yeah, man. I remember when P P E was a thing and I was definitely looking into it. But by the time I looked into it, like, I feel like they, they sniffed it all out. Like, I didn't get any of that P P E money. So there you go.

• 11:57Laci Mosley?

  I wish I had because so many entertainers were like, well, I do have a S corp. I am a company.

• 12:02Speaker 06

  Everybody, listen, everybody I know was getting that P P E money and I, you know, everybody kind of needed it at the time, especially like if you did stand up or, you know, like I have some DJ friends who are like, I'm never gonna make money again. Like, it was, it was lean times.

• 12:17Laci Mosley?

  It was. Oh, the DJs. Think of the DJs. You know what? I will say, I feel for the DJs because I feel like there's a certain amount, there's certain careers that until you become wildly successful, they are extremely embarrassing. And so I would say, acting, uh, no, the number one, so sorry out there, but the number one career that is shameful until you get on is being a rapper.

• 12:41Speaker 06

  True, nobody respects.

• 12:42Laci Mosley?

  Nobody respects you.

• 12:44Speaker 06

  Not even the DJ.

• 12:45Laci Mosley?

  No.

• 12:45Speaker 06

  When the DJ is like, "Hey, you gotta play this song for this dude at midnight, he's gonna get out here and rap." You're like, "Okay."

• 12:52Laci Mosley?

  No, nobody wants to listen to your mixtape.

• 12:54Speaker 06

  No.

• 12:55Laci Mosley?

  No, nobody wants to hear you do a freestyle. It's embarrassing.

• 12:59Speaker 06

  I love it when, I love it when you like, in a movie inevitably, like if there's a character who's a rapper and like, they have that, inevitably they have some scene where like they're performing at a nightclub and somehow, everybody in the nightclub is really into like the, I've never seen that. I've DJed so many nightclubs where they're like, "Put this song and the rapper's gonna come out and do his song." Like those be the, the most dead crowds you've ever seen.

• 13:22Laci Mosley?

  Ever seen.

• 13:23Speaker 06

  At some point, they have to get up and rap somebody else's lyrics just to get somebody, you know, up for their song. It's, it's just painful.

• 13:30Laci Mosley?

  Steve Harvey said, "We can't not know you and not know the song."

• 13:36Laci Mosley?

  And so movies are always lying when they have like a rapper or somebody come up on stage. You know, like Pee Valley, like Little Murder, like whatever. That's my favorite TV trope because it is so fake. If we heard.

• 13:47Speaker 06

  Oh, it's so fake.

• 13:47Laci Mosley?

  Any music that was new from a rapper, we'd be like, "Get this man off this, boo this man."

• 13:52Speaker 06

  Serious boo this man. And it could even be somebody who you like. But they're like, "Hey y'all, I'm about to do a new song." And you're like, "All right, let me go get a drink."

• 14:01Laci Mosley?

  Right, a new song.

• 14:02Speaker 06

  A new song. Like, I really just came here to hear the song that's on Power this week.

• 14:07Laci Mosley?

  You know what's a good example? Versus. Whenever the versus people come out and they start doing their new material that's not like the old hits, everybody's like, "Turn this shit off." "Oh, Mario, we don't wanna hear your new song. Get out here and do Icebox."

• 14:21Speaker 06

  Why you gotta call out, my man?

• 14:24Speaker 06

  Oh, absolutely. It's just like, you know, that's, that's when you check and see who else is live right there.

• 14:29Laci Mosley?

  Right, it's like.

• 14:30Speaker 06

  A shout out to, shout out to the Swiss at, uh, Tim, Timbaland, because I feel like they worked out their whole, you know, situation with versus.

• 14:36Laci Mosley?

  I mean, they really did. They, they, they, I think they went in person too quickly. Um, it's a little anxiety inducing. But, and the only thing that bothered me about it is that they were in Atlanta, you know, like they would have after parties at like Compound and stuff like. That and if you don't know what versus is versus started on Instagram live with that was when it was amazing. It was just.

• 14:55Speaker 06

  It was great. It was what we needed during the pandemic because it was just like, oh, people were still alive out there and they were in their home studios. Going track for track. This is this is my song versus your song. It was great.

• 15:06Laci Mosley?

  With terrible wifi, the worst tech you've ever seen and it was amazing.

• 15:12Speaker 06

  Riley will never live that down, right? Like, he could have never known that his legacy would be forever. Forever be tied to the to the screen, to this wifi bandwidth. It's just not fair.

• 15:21Laci Mosley?

  Like, bruh, bruh had cricket wifi. Like, where did you get this wifi, my guy? It's terrible. We're praying for you.

• 15:27Speaker 06

  Still think about the uncle who was behind him in the hoodie dancing. I I just thought about that guy last night, just like, that dude had no idea he was ever gonna be famous for that dance he did in the background.

• 15:39Laci Mosley?

  He is literally a meme. But yes, so I love that. So y'all don't tell, don't tell Della what crimes you're doing because he doesn't want to know. I want to know though. I want to know.

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• 19:15Laci Mosley?

  And it's time for what's hot and fraud. This is what we warn you guys about popping scams on the zeitgeist. Or we get a letter from you all as always. Snitch on your friends, your family and your enemies. It's [email protected]. Just make sure the scam is retired because we don't want to what? Yes, fuck up your bag. All right. So I need a fake name. Dial it for this person. We don't care about gender. Um, also, I know the last time you were on, it was a little bit of a gotcha because you were honoring your son by giving the scammer your son's name. And then the scam rated up it being a nasty person.

• 19:47Speaker 06

  So. Oh, it was the worst.

• 19:48Laci Mosley?

  So we won't do your kids like that.

• 19:51Speaker 06

  I'll apologize to him when he, you know, like a teenager. He goes back.

• 19:54Laci Mosley?

  You don't have to apologize to him. Children are a scam. He living in your house rent free. He doing good.

• 20:01Laci Mosley?

  And he got a daddy making that TV coin. Oh, he doing great. Okay.

• 20:04Speaker 06

  That's, that's his daddy's money. That's his daddy's money. I'm not passing you.

• 20:08Laci Mosley?

  No, that's his money too. That's his money too. My mom always said, my money is my money, but your money is our money.

• 20:17Speaker 06

  There you go.

• 20:18Laci Mosley?

  And I live by that. So give me a fake name for this person, if you could.

• 20:24Speaker 06

  I want to say Clarence, but I won't do that to you.

• 20:26Laci Mosley?

  Oh, you was gonna try to use one of my daddy's wowzers.

• 20:28Speaker 06

  No, see, I, you know what? Um, I let, why don't we say, uh, here's a safe name, Jonah.

• 20:33Laci Mosley?

  Jonah, okay. Yeah, Jonah sounds like he, um, definitely was in church choir, you know?

• 20:40Speaker 06

  I don't know. I don't know any, do I? I don't think I know a single Jonah, so I think I'm safe.

• 20:45Laci Mosley?

  Okay, okay. So we're not, I don't know any either, except for the heel one.

• 20:48Speaker 06

  I've met him once and so I'm still safe.

• 20:51Laci Mosley?

  You're still safe. You're still safe. So Jonah says, this past summer, I woofed on a goat farm. Okay, Jonah, what is woofing? It says, if you aren't familiar, which I am not, thank you, Jonah. Woofing and it's spelled W W O O F I N G. And they've, Jonah spelled it twice, so this is not a mistake. So this is what it is called. It's an international co-op where you work on an organic farm in exchange for free housing and food. This unfortunately meant that I did not get paid. And as a broke college student, paying dead rent while I was farming, mind you, that fucking sucked. Okay.

• 21:28Speaker 06

  Working on a farm and not getting paid sounds perilously like something from the history of black people.

• 21:34Laci Mosley?

  Yes. It's giving 12 years.

• 21:39Speaker 06

  Hey guys, it's a co-op. It's a co-op. That sounds like a rebrand.

• 21:45Speaker 06

  Also, we get you, we get your kids.

• 21:47Laci Mosley?

  That's how they got the black people. Hey y'all, we got, we got a co-op for y'all. It's an uppay internship.

• 21:52Speaker 06

  Overseas co-op. You get to see a whole new continent.

• 21:56Laci Mosley?

  Right. Have y'all ever heard of cotton?

• 21:59Speaker 06

  Oh, God.

• 22:00Laci Mosley?

  No, but, uh, nothing funny about slavery, but something very funny about rebranding it. A hard girl boss rebrand. Okay, this is a co-op, guys. You know, so at the time, Jonah says they were a college student, but they're working on this co-op. Um, they said they're paying dead rent, which I'm trying to understand. Is that like you have, you're paying rent at the place that you're not living at right now?

• 22:23Speaker 06

  Um, yeah, that doesn't make any sense.

• 22:25Laci Mosley?

  Which I've had to do. So that kind of sounds like maybe that's what they're implying. So on the farm, my fellow woofers and I did a lot of manual labor, feeding goats, dogs, cats, and chickens. Uh, in parentheses, fuck chickens.

• 22:41Speaker 06

  Chickens are mean animals, man.

• 22:43Laci Mosley?

  Are they?

• 22:44Speaker 06

  They're mean animals.

• 22:44Laci Mosley?

  Okay, that makes me feel better about eating them.

• 22:47Speaker 06

  Oh, yeah, for sure.

• 22:48Laci Mosley?

  It's like, look, chickens are assholes. You heard it here first. So get that rotisserie, okay? Uh, that's probably what it tastes so good. All the angst. Love that for us. So it says, "I was moving heavy farm equipment and water buckets, milking goats, catching chickens." Again, I can't emphasize this enough. Fuck chickens. They are not only stinky and stupid, but ugly as hell. Meat chickens, even ethically raised ones are foul and a pain in the ass. Damn, you really got a beef with the, with chickens.

• 23:18Speaker 06

  It really is. It really is.

• 23:19Laci Mosley?

  I've never seen somebody hate a chicken so much.

• 23:22Speaker 06

  Damn, Jonah. Yeah, Jonah's really on it.

• 23:24Laci Mosley?

  So it says, and most importantly, working at various farmers markets. Now I'm gonna pause here, Jonah, because I haven't even gotten to your scam yet, or what the scam is. But obviously, we see the scam of the co-op, where y'all not getting paid, but somebody is making money from the labor you're doing. Also, you said that y'all were out here doing like, organic farm work. I don't know why my brain, because I guess like, farms are animals, and then like, what do they call when they making food? Well, I thought like, don't you grow crops on a?

• 23:51Speaker 06

  Yeah, I mean, yeah, it's, that's what, that's what a farm is there to do.

• 23:55Laci Mosley?

  Okay, because I was thinking immediately when I saw like, uh, the farm thing, organic farm, that we were talking about like, picking berries and fruits and whatnot, but we're talking about like, ranch and activities.

• 24:11Speaker 06

  No, this sounds like way too much work.

• 24:12Laci Mosley?

  Wait, not worth it. I would just get a job where I could like, you know, quiet quit every day. I don't know if I could be out here boxing, uh, you know, chickens and shit every day. It feels like a lot.

• 24:23Speaker 06

  It's awkward if you quit your job on a ranch, but you don't know how to get back to the city. You're like, quit. Now, where the fuck are we? Like this.

• 24:30Laci Mosley?

  Can y'all give me a ride to the train?

• 24:35Speaker 06

  That's how they get you, man. They, they, they take you to someplace where you can't leave.

• 24:38Laci Mosley?

  Right, because where you gonna go? Where you gonna go? Nowhere. So some important context. The farmers markets we went to were in a major city, so people did not bat an eye at eight dollars a dozen, like for a dozen of eggs, or twelve dollars for half a gallon of goat milk. All this to say, the guy who runs the farm did just fine financially. Yeah, I'm sure he took his way. He's providing y'all like, fruit snacks and a family meal. And he already got the houses. It's not like he gotta repay for the houses that he got y'all laying up in, and he's not paying you for labor, and he's going to the city and charging a bunch of yuppies, you know, twelve dollars for half a gallon of goat milk.

• 25:17Speaker 06

  Hmm, I feel like, I feel like this is heroin's business.

• 25:22Laci Mosley?

  It is, but he's like, yeah, we Arawan, but like really farm to table. And when we say you in nowhere, you are in nowhere. And that's why you gonna stay. That's why you can't leave.

• 25:32Speaker 06

  I, I, I gotta say, I was so old when I figured out that Arawan was basically nowhere spelled backwards with like a slight change to make it a little more pronounceable. And that kind of blew my mind.

• 25:42Laci Mosley?

  It didn't to me because I grew up in the age of, you know, young moms naming their kids Nevea.

• 25:50Laci Mosley?

  So I was ready. I was like, I done seen the team moms naming their baby Nevea. It's heaven spelled backwards. And if you ever meet a Nevea, they will say, hi, my name is Nevea. It's heaven spelled backwards. They'll let you know. So I'm always looking. So to compensate for our work at the farmer's market, the guy who runs the farm gave us each a $15 allowance to spend on lunch. However, a big part of the farmer's market culture among vendors is trading. My fellow woofers and I would typically trade eggs or milk or various goods for communal kitchen. Because of this, rather than spend my $15 on lunch, I go up to the meal vendors, usually the Ethiopian place because the food was scrumptious. And the guy who worked there was so damn fine. Okay.

• 26:35Speaker 06

  I, let's just be honest, Ethiopians are just amazingly good looking people in general.

• 26:40Laci Mosley?

  They are.

• 26:40Speaker 06

  You know, people, people back at college used to be like, yeah, you know, he liked them Ethiopians.

• 26:48Laci Mosley?

  I mean, they are baddies. They're a culture of baddies.

• 26:50Speaker 06

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 26:52Laci Mosley?

  But I love that, you know, Jonah's giving us so many details in here. I love this letter so much.

• 26:57Speaker 06

  This doesn't sound like a scam yet. It sounds like he got scammed, but I'm waiting for the turn.

• 27:00Laci Mosley?

  I know, I am too. I don't know if it's coming because we're almost at the end of this letter.

• 27:04Speaker 06

  I hope he's not scamming Ethiopians because honestly, they've been through a lot.

• 27:07Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, they have. We don't need to do that.

• 27:09Speaker 06

  Don't scam them. No.

• 27:10Laci Mosley?

  So it says, I'd go up to the Ethiopians and I'd offer to trade a dozen eggs for a meal and a drink. Sometimes I'd trade eggs for popsicles or fruit to munch on during the market, too. I have no regrets or remorse that I probably lost him over a hundred dollars worth of products all in all. And I'd absolutely do it again. Okay, Jonah, I don't think you ran a scam here. Baby, I think a scam was being run on you. And I'm glad that you realize you needed to get involved.

• 27:36Speaker 06

  Yeah, that's, I don't know. It didn't sound like an effective scam to me.

• 27:42Laci Mosley?

  I guess because

• 27:43Speaker 06

  Nobody's taking notes on Jonah's scam.

• 27:46Laci Mosley?

  Well, if you think about it, if it was eight dollars for a carton of eggs, right? And he's selling eggs to other, or trading eggs all the time. So the money that wasn't, you know, gained by actually selling the eggs because he was bartering something that didn't belong to him is a little bit of a scam because he's keeping his little fifteen dollar stipend.

• 28:04Speaker 06

  That's true.

• 28:05Laci Mosley?

  And he's also bartering with products that he technically should have been selling. And so I get what he's saying, but at the same time, like Jonah, baby, you were not being paid for your labor.

• 28:15Speaker 06

  Right.

• 28:15Laci Mosley?

  And then the allowance was fifteen dollars for lunch and that was your labor working the farmer's market, meaning they're not paying you on all fronts. Like, so you definitely should have stole more, you know? I'm proud of you, but like, you know, you could have, you could have charged.

• 28:31Speaker 06

  There's, there's, there's some people under my roof who I give an allowance to, who I let them stay here for free. And I don't, I don't respect their scams either. So I think that Jonah needs to take a step back and really, how's he gonna amass wealth when he's earning a child's allowance and like scamming eggs? I just, this is a.

• 28:50Laci Mosley?

  I mean, how is anybody gonna amass wealth without being born into it or taking it? You know?

• 28:56Speaker 06

  That, that part is, that part is sadly true.

• 28:58Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 28:59Speaker 06

  But I feel like there are some better ways to cheat the system than this.

• 29:03Laci Mosley?

  Yes, like he could have went harder. He definitely could have went harder, but at the same time, Jonah, I'm glad you were satisfied with your scam. You didn't get greedy, you didn't get caught, because I would hate for, you know, the farmer to be like, you're fired and then drop you off in the middle of nowhere and, you know, you gotta hitchhike back home. That sounds like a horror movie. But I also just don't see a world where the farmer, even if you were stealing out of eggs, I'm sure he knew he was losing some, but he's making so much money on free labor on every side. He's taking it.

• 29:28Speaker 06

  He's, he's taking and he's just calling his unpaid labor a co-op. I think that that's the person, let's not the Jonas's boss, because I feel like that's the scam that I'm taking away from this one.

• 29:39Laci Mosley?

  It, it absolutely is. And also the rebranding, he gave y'all like a, a community calling y'all woofers. So now y'all got a sense of kinship and he calling it a co-op instead of unpaid physical labor. You know, the, the real scam is the bo, the farmer here. Oh, McDonald was.

• 29:56Speaker 06

  The person at the top, it's the person at the top who's got the best, the best scam.

• 30:00Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 30:02Laci Mosley?

  Oh, McDonald's say, E I E O Khan, you know, so he was the one who really won here. But I'm glad you got a little bit. I'm glad you feel good about it. And you should definitely not feel bad about trading some eggs with some sexy Ethiopians and having a great meal, you know, while you worked for free. So, thank you.

• 30:18Speaker 06

  Where's these Ethiopians who lived off the, I, I want to know about them. That seems like a, you know, the fun thing about me is that I do have a, a bit of a fascination with Ethiopian culture. My brother was a Rastafarian and, you know, like, I feel like for the time I was born, he's 20 years older than me, but for the time I was born, I was always exposed to like all these various parts of Ethiopian culture, um, even more than Jamaican culture, which is interesting. But, uh, whenever possible, I try to incorporate Ethiopian culture into our writing. So on Sherman Showcase, you know, Sherman always ends up owing the Ethiopian mob, which is not even a, not even a nationality that has a mob as far as I know. But I just thought it'd be funny if you owed a, a, like a, a, a group of people who aren't known

• 30:59Speaker 06

  for having a mob, he owes the Ethiopian mob a ton of money. So every time an Ethiopian person shows up on set, he gets a little bit nervous because he's not sure, you know.

• 31:09Laci Mosley?

  If they're there to shake him down.

• 31:11Speaker 06

  Exactly. If they're there to collect the debt. And I'm actually happy to say that, you know, anybody who's seen season one of the show knows that there was a, there was a pretty prominent scene with the, um, actually, no, it's not season one. It was the Black History Special.

• 31:24Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 31:24Speaker 06

  We did something with Ethiopian mob. Well, some of those characters come back in season two, so.

• 31:28Laci Mosley?

  And they're very fun. Yes, very fun. I also love like taking mob trokes, but putting them on a, a culture that isn't as like stereotypically, you know, like my, my daughter's wedding, you know, like what is, what's the Ethiopian version of that?

• 31:42Speaker 06

  Yeah, man.

• 31:43Laci Mosley?

  I love that. Sherman Showcase is so funny, guys. If you guys haven't gotten into the first season, you have a chance to binge the first season before the second season comes out October 26th. So, ew.

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• 34:38Laci Mosley?

  And it's time for me to regale Diallo with the famous con caper group of criminals. We'll see if we like them, we'll see if we hate them. Um, I am going to say up top, the story was first broke and investigated by Mississippi Today's Anna Wolf in her article. Much of the research came from her summary and discussion with Congressman Ronnie Shows on his radio podcast, Mississippi Today's Anna Wolf Explains Sprolling Welfare Fraud Case. So if you want to get into that podcast for more details, if you want to get into Ann Wolf's writing, y'all know we don't scam the writers here. So you can also do that. It'll be in our footnotes on any platform that you listen to this, you can click on the link. All right, so you probably got an inclination of where we're going here Diallo, but um,

• 35:21Laci Mosley?

  what first looked like a former pro footballer cozying up to the Mississippi governor for a little volleyball stadium, has now blown up into a statewide corruption case that implicates the entire county's welfare system. In a fraud case involving pro wrestlers and former athletes, millions in state welfare funds have been misappropriated. And I love the term misappropriated because it gives me officer involved shooting. You know what I mean? Like just things that, and I wish that the news is scamming us all by writing things in a way that makes the crime less, it makes it more docile and it's incredibly irresponsible. Um, so I'm looking at y'all journalists, um, you know, coming out here with this officer involved shit.

• 36:05Laci Mosley?

  No, they shot someone, then just say what it is, okay? We don't need the cutesy language to be like, they murdered someone and we don't need the cutesy language to be like, misappropriated. They weren't misappropriated, they were stolen. Okay? I don't get to, I don't get to misappropriate at Target, I don't get to misappropriate at Bloomingdale's. Exactly. Right, I just, no, I just misappropriated all this stuff in my purse, that's all.

• 36:27Laci Mosley?

  This is just a red tape issue, y'all. Y'all making it, why y'all put me in cuffs? No, this is just a misunderstanding. I misappropriated this car.

• 36:35Speaker 06

  Exactly. Uh, half of white collar crime is just really sophisticated shoplifting.

• 36:41Laci Mosley?

  It is. And we need to start calling it that. And also stop calling it white collar like it's higher brow than blue collar crime. Crime is crime.

• 36:49Speaker 06

  Isn't that, isn't that really twisted? Like, they're like...

• 36:52Laci Mosley?

  I stole, but I was in a double-breasted suit. Like, what do you mean?

• 36:56Speaker 06

  Double-breasted crime.

• 36:58Laci Mosley?

  I dressed up for this robbery. Don't put me in the category with the burglars, okay?

• 37:03Speaker 06

  It's messed up, man.

• 37:04Laci Mosley?

  I'm just misappropriating somebody home. What you talking about? Okay, we picked the lock. We didn't throw a brick through the window. We are classy, okay? So, the network. The fraud for which six people have faced criminal charges and Brett Favre, who was already a nasty man, is fast becoming a...

• 37:21Speaker 06

  Real nasty, real nasty. I mean, like, I hate to say it, but like, more about the head coach of the Celtics than I did about Brett Favre, which is really disturbing when you consider the scope and the damage that one person did compared to the other.

• 37:36Laci Mosley?

  Right. And this is not his first time being a nasty man. And you know, he's just continuing his legacy of being gross. And I went to Pitt at the time, uh, you know, when the, uh, situation came out with him when he was playing football. And, um, you know, it was just, it's disgusting. So he's never been a good dude. And so it's not shocking that he continues to just be a piece of shit. So, at its core, it involves funneling tens of millions in funds in a T A N F, which is a temporary assistance for needy families to places that aren't needy families. So, you know, this money has been allocated to help people. And this is one of the poorest states in the country, Mississippi. They're having all these water problems right now, also because the infrastructure money that they were given

• 38:20Laci Mosley?

  somehow didn't go to the infrastructure that they were supposed to be, you know, rebuilding or fixing. And now we're seeing the consequences of that as well. So you're dealing with an extremely corrupt, you know, governance in Mississippi, on top of the fact that they already... Have, you know, a really bad education system. Some of the people are in the most dire straits in our country. And then on top of that, everyone is grifting them.

• 38:44Speaker 06

  Well, it's ridiculous.

• 38:46Laci Mosley?

  It's it's insane. So T A N F was introduced in nineteen ninety six as a welfare reform intended to end poverty. It ended direct cash payments to poorer families with children and instead gave states a grant that had the flexibility to use it as they see fit for families that met eligibility. And I don't know why at no point, nobody thought, you know, we got an idea. Instead of just giving the money directly to the people who need it. What if we give it to people who probably will take it? But, uh, you know, they'll decide if you worthy of getting it. Like, why do we add another middleman into the?

• 39:23Speaker 06

  Yeah, why, why? I mean, like, no, let's not give it directly to the people who need it. Let's give it to the people who kind of loathe the people who need it. You know, like, I mean, this is honestly, this is Mississippi where I do feel like the government is not really responsive to the needs of the the people. If they were, they wouldn't consistently be ranked last in in some of the places where they are. And it's so, it's so lame. And this is actually in some ways related to the fact, not to get too deep into the weeds, but it's related to the fact that like even right now, the Supreme Court is going to decide, I believe, whether, you know, the state legislature has the right to gerrymander the state so that basically all the poor people are in one district.

• 40:07Speaker 06

  But they're outnumbered by all these other, you know, districts that are, uh, more rural. It's it's messed up, man.

• 40:14Laci Mosley?

  It it truly is. And also, like, just an analogy here. Imagine if your worst enemy, like the person who hates you the most, like the person who's like, I'm your number one hater. You know, if you got a hater, it's me. If you got a million haters, I'm one of them, you know? If you got zero haters, I've left this earth. Imagine if that person is

• 40:33Speaker 06

  Was in charge.

• 40:34Laci Mosley?

  Is in charge of giving you money.

• 40:37Laci Mosley?

  Like, yeah, we we gave the money to your hater. What you mean you ain't get it? No, we literally gave the check to your hater. We said, give it to them. They didn't. Oh, okay. That's, that's wild.

• 40:46Speaker 06

  That didn't, that didn't make it through. Oh, it must be the post office. We'll cut their funding too.

• 40:50Laci Mosley?

  Yo, that's wild. Cardi B, you didn't get your money. We gave it to the Barb's. They didn't. They didn't give it to you? That's wild. That's wild. They said they was gonna give it to you. Okay. So the criteria by which it operates is deeply embedded in stereotypes and assumptions about poor families that especially harm poor black women. So, um, if you haven't heard our episode on, uh, the welfare queen, um, there's also one that I did on You're Wrong About, um, with Sarah Marshall about the welfare queen and how it was completely propaganda and lies that Reagan told to demonize black women. With the basis. Mm-hmm.

• 41:28Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 41:28Laci Mosley?

  And, and it was just, uh, Linda Taylor. So it was specifically about her and he like said that she stole like a hundred and fifty thousand dollars a year and was over here living good on chicken with ninety kids and, and stealing all the welfare money. And in reality, she misappropriated about eight thousand dollars over her crime spree career. So, you know, it really created a damaging stereotype for, uh...

• 41:53Speaker 06

  Which lives on to this day.

• 41:54Laci Mosley?

  Yep.

• 41:55Speaker 06

  You know, to this day, you can say the term welfare queen and unfortunately, I think a lot of people think they know what that is. I, I'll, I'll be honest. I do know a welfare queen. She died at the age of ninety-six, uh, in the UK. And she was one.

• 42:10Speaker 06

  She, she lived off of their, the taxpayer dime her entire life. And yes, she was a welfare queen.

• 42:17Laci Mosley?

  And I will say that welfare queen was probably, is definitely the one who goes down in history as the one who stole the most. Because even when she died, they took her body, they took her body on a tour. They, and they, you know what I mean? Who's going on world tour when they dead?

• 42:32Speaker 06

  The state paid for her funeral, flew in a bunch of people on privates. I mean, like, she really did it big.

• 42:39Laci Mosley?

  She really did.

• 42:40Speaker 06

  She did it big, y'all.

• 42:42Laci Mosley?

  And you could even, you know, sign up to a stand in line and go see the person who robbed you for your entire life and probably more than your life because she's was older than most living people.

• 42:53Speaker 06

  She was taken from our ancestors. So, you know, I think it's, uh, I think it's very telling that, you know, once again, white collar crime is okay. And if you are really rich and well-connected, you can definitely benefit from government, government assistance your entire.

• 43:08Laci Mosley?

  All the time. Americans, we have it with our corporations, you know, bailouts, like, you know, even PPPs that went to really rich people who got their PPP loans forgiven. And yet we're over here getting mad at people who make less than a hundred fifty thousand dollars a year, getting some of their student loans erased. You know, there's always welfare for the rich and there's not welfare for the poor. So you're absolutely right. And Lizzie was out here grifted with the best of her honey. And my favorite thing was Lizzie was stealing diamonds from, you know, Africa. Talk about they gave, South Africa gave it to her as a gift. Bitch, ain't nobody give you that diamond as no damn gift. The whole British museum is literally just loot. They like, come see the shit we stole. We ain't got no culture over here. We, we made up the, we just talked about the pill down man

• 43:48Laci Mosley?

  on this, uh, podcast, which was literally like the UK's version of, um, Lucy. Like they were trying to say this was the first person that, you know, ever lived on earth. And it was really just a collection of monkey skulls and, and mandibles from other places. And, you know, they even had a fake bat and talking about, oh yeah, the first man played cricket and he loved to score a tee. Like, get some culture, UK.

• 44:13Speaker 06

  I mean, they're, they're basically an island and yet we're all speaking the island language right now. So.

• 44:20Laci Mosley?

  Isn't that wild? They're like, what you talking about? We gave you your native tongue. No, this wasn't it.

• 44:25Speaker 06

  No, this wasn't it. And, you know, it wasn't, uh, it wasn't because everybody's saying, you know what? That, that language sounds really good. We'll voluntarily, I'll start talking that language. Like, no, that's not how it happens.

• 44:36Laci Mosley?

  Right. They're like, English bussin'. Y'all, no, put down the native tongue. Put that shit down. Okay?

• 44:42Speaker 06

  We have contributed a lot to the language and by nothing, nothing is more offensive to my children than when I try to like speak current slang like I'll be like, hey guys, these eggs are busting. They're like, they're skin crawls. You can see them like crawling to the shell. I love it. It's one of my joys as a parent.

• 44:58Laci Mosley?

  And, and I love that for you. That's you get to, you get to corny, corny out for your kids.

• 45:03Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 45:04Laci Mosley?

  And you know, and embarrass them, you know, pick them up from school like, what's up my guy?

• 45:08Speaker 06

  Exactly. I, I, I enunciate so hard. Like there's, like I put the G on everything and being an I N G like it's great. It's so much fun to see them die a little bit inside.

• 45:19Laci Mosley?

  Love that for you. The joys of being a parent. So though other states face corruption and misuse of funds in Mississippi, it appears a network of officials and their friends walked into the unchecked welfare bank and cleaned house. So basically, you know, other states are stealing. We know that the government is corrupt. They're, they're just a fucking shakedown. But this is a unique situation because at least in some other states, you might have somebody looking into the fraud. Everybody was like, oh, we the gang. They were like, no, we all are gonna do crime together. One, two, three. Everybody hand in crime. And then they work together.

• 45:58Laci Mosley?

  They work together as a team. Okay. Uh, and so this is why it was, you know, continuing for so long unchecked. Cause everybody was a part of it. They were like, what do you mean? We're all doing the crime. So most of the investigation surrounding the fraud has centered on a number of low level government employees. The director of Mississippi Department of Human Services, John Davis, was found to have funneled millions of T A N F money to a nonprofit, the Mississippi Community Education Center. All right now, if you see John, if I saw this motherfucker anywhere, I would never let him touch a penny, let alone millions of anybody's funds.

• 46:34Speaker 06

  He looks like Mississippi's, he looks like Mississippi's answer to Mikhail Gorbachev. He looks like, I would not trust this man with anything like that, that. First off, that tie just tells me that he's definitely skipped out on the bill at the steakhouse with his friends.

• 46:53Laci Mosley?

  For sure.

• 46:55Speaker 06

  He was just like, oh, I gotta go. I'll hit you back.

• 46:58Laci Mosley?

  I don't even know if he doing that. I feel like John, like, yeah, I gotta run to the bathroom real quick. Did y'all see John took his coat to the bathroom? Like, wait, he's not coming back?

• 47:08Speaker 06

  The bathroom isn't even towards the front doors. I don't know what that was about.

• 47:12Laci Mosley?

  You just hear a car peeling off. Nah, he not gonna pay his bill. And he got the most food. He was the one who said we should get another bottle of wine.

• 47:19Speaker 06

  He was like, let's do it family style. Let's do it family style.

• 47:23Laci Mosley?

  And also John's tie is giving like cosplaying like a poor public servant. You know what I mean? He was like, let's go give the girls. I have a store millions of dollars. This pays the ugly ass tie, you know?

• 47:35Speaker 06

  That dude, not him.

• 47:37Laci Mosley?

  No. And also I love the name of this nonprofit, Mississippi.

• 47:42Speaker 06

  That to me is the headline. The second you say it again, because I know that's corrupt right there.

• 47:46Laci Mosley?

  Mississippi Community Education Center. What does that mean?

• 47:53Speaker 06

  It's words, man. It's where education center.

• 47:57Laci Mosley?

  You know what it's giving? It's giving you guys serve. Like, we gotta dance and raise money to close, so the community service or center don't close down. Cause Lil Faint gotta go there. You know, it's like, what are y'all? What education are you giving? Is the education for children? Is it for like, you know, people learning? Is it a community college? Are people learning a trade? What is it?

• 48:18Speaker 06

  It's so vague. It's just like, it's, it's, it goes towards why I think Monto Jordan's This Is How We Do It. It's such a brilliant title for a song because it can be used in any setting. It's like, we be launching a business and it could be like, hey, guys, this is how we do it. Like, it's so, it's a lot of words, but it means nothing. This is how we, that clear who the we are. Do it.

• 48:42Laci Mosley?

  What is it?

• 48:43Speaker 06

  Brilliant. It's freaking brilliant. It can be anything from a movie premiere to like going to jail. This is how we do it.

• 48:50Laci Mosley?

  They said we got a nonprofit. It's called Charity For All In Need.

• 48:58Speaker 06

  Charity for those in need. Of what?

• 49:00Laci Mosley?

  Of what? And what are you giving them? No, no, don't worry about all that. Don't worry about that, okay?

• 49:06Speaker 06

  Oh, you asking a lot of questions. Why are you hating on charity? You can't even go there because you'll get in trouble.

• 49:10Laci Mosley?

  My charity is just called Giving.

• 49:14Laci Mosley?

  We don't know what it's giving, we don't know.

• 49:16Speaker 06

  The Giving Foundation of California.

• 49:19Laci Mosley?

  Yes. Oh, man. Okay, that's it. That's my charity. Let me go get my LLC together, okay?

• 49:24Speaker 06

  Yeah, I think so. Who needs to go find me when you get a nice vague name?

• 49:28Laci Mosley?

  Right. The center was supposed to have been a performing and subcontracting activities that fell under T A N F criteria and accepting money is legal so long as the center actually conducted those activities. That is also a very vague sentence. They are supposed to be performing and subcontracting activities that fell under T N A F criteria. So, we don't know what those activities are. We don't know what the subcontract, we don't know what the subcontracting is.

• 50:01Speaker 06

  Insane.

• 50:01Laci Mosley?

  It's all so vague. Instead of that money going to needy families, the head of the center, Nancy New, kicked it back to Davis, his friends and family, and her family. They said, "We are needy of these millions as well." Define needy, because I need a new Bentley. And, and that's me. I'm in need of a new mansion.

• 50:22Speaker 06

  You know, here's the thing. She, she was in need of new short sleeve red dresses. Like, that was very important to her. And, you know, she'd had to, she had to increase her collection of, of, of just ridiculously banging red short sleeve dresses.

• 50:38Laci Mosley?

  Right. You could have got some better fashions, sis. But I will say her hair is laid. She got the feather bang, the, the highlights are fresh. She said, "I am in need of a cut and blowout." Okay? And I'm gonna get it. She, she partially did that through establishing a state sanctioned initiative called Families First. Ooh, I love these vague ass names, which essentially privatized a large amount of this, you know, government money that was, you know, intended for the people in need. The goal of the initiative isn't entirely clear, though New said Families First does exist and their, um, mantra was, this is their quote, "All the good stuff already being done out there." So, that's what they're supporting. They were like, they said, "Are..."

• 51:22Speaker 06

  We're, we're pro good stuff. We like things that are good.

• 51:28Laci Mosley?

  Uh, the initiative with family first is to do good for people.

• 51:35Speaker 06

  They didn't even have to say what good was?

• 51:37Laci Mosley?

  Mm-mm, just good stuff. They didn't even say what the stuff was. All the good stuff, they're like, what do you mean? We did good stuff. Then we didn't know that meant give them the money. Nobody knew he had said that.

• 51:47Speaker 06

  Is this a pro Kanye organization? Are they supporting good music? Like, does the word good have like dots in it? I'm so confused.

• 51:54Laci Mosley?

  You know, good stuff. Come on out. Good stuff.

• 51:58Speaker 06

  Of course.

• 51:58Laci Mosley?

  Davis's nephew was paid four hundred thousand dollars to create coding academies in quotes for the two nonprofits. So he got almost half a million dollars. And this is her nephew.

• 52:10Speaker 06

  Yeah. Now, see, I believe in coding. I mean, I I've sent my kids to coding camp. So that's that's a legit thing, but like, I'm sure you're about to tell me that there was no coding going. Go ahead.

• 52:20Laci Mosley?

  This is, this is four hundred thousand dollars yellow to create the coding academy.

• 52:27Speaker 06

  Uh, see, I see. It's, that's how the criminal mind works is like, I'm thinking like, I'm giving so much benefit of the doubt, but they're just like, no, I'm just getting half a million dollars to come up with the idea.

• 52:39Laci Mosley?

  It's mostly for thinking. I need half a million dollars to think about the coding camps we're gonna do.

• 52:47Speaker 06

  See, these thoughts ain't free. That's where I've, I've given away the cow. You know, these people are just really, I need them to represent me in Hollywood. Because clearly I'm, I'm working too hard.

• 52:57Laci Mosley?

  Right. We, we hustling backwards because we could have just been having vague phrases, apparently.

• 53:01Speaker 06

  I'm gonna start, I'm gonna, I need half a million dollars to come up with a code switching camp. And we're, all we're gonna do is tell people how they can switch up their code to get ahead in life.

• 53:10Laci Mosley?

  Mm-hmm. So we're gonna mull on it with that half a mil and then we're gonna, you know, get the ideas percolating. However, the nephew knew nothing about computer programming. As such, he produced.

• 53:25Laci Mosley?

  Nothing.

• 53:26Speaker 06

  Well, hey, but you know, at some point, you, you know, not every idea is gonna work out.

• 53:31Laci Mosley?

  Right.

• 53:31Speaker 06

  Sometimes those ideas don't work out. He thought about, he thought about it. You guys stop hating. He thought about it and he got, yes, more money than most of us will ever make. But he did, he did think we can assume, because you can prove that he thought.

• 53:44Laci Mosley?

  He was using it for thoughts. Okay, how can we just prove that he used it for thoughts?

• 53:48Speaker 06

  Yeah, he probably, he might have to use it for thoughts, but that's a whole different conversation.

• 53:52Laci Mosley?

  Y'all don't know what he was thinking. Y'all can't prove that he didn't use a four hundred thousand dollars worth of thoughts. Okay?

• 53:57Speaker 06

  Y'all don't know this man's thoughts? Why, why y'all assuming y'all know this man's thoughts?

• 54:02Laci Mosley?

  Right, y'all ain't mind readers. Don't lock this man up, okay? So Davis's brother-in-law was paid over six hundred thousand dollars for a nonexistent job and lease on a nonexistent building. So the nephew, you know, he got, at least he did thoughts.

• 54:19Speaker 06

  I have a lot of nonexistent buildings.

• 54:21Laci Mosley?

  I do too, and I need six hundred thousand dollars for him, for sure.

• 54:25Speaker 06

  I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm a real estate magnet when it comes to the nonexistent building.

• 54:29Laci Mosley?

  You see that over there? You don't? Yeah, that's mine.

• 54:33Speaker 06

  Yeah, cuz you, you don't see things the way I see them.

• 54:36Laci Mosley?

  That's all it is. You need to change your perspective, my guy.

• 54:38Speaker 06

  Exactly. I got a multi, I got a multi-use over there. You don't even see it.

• 54:42Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, I like that the nephew at least was like, for thoughts, but then the brother-in-law was like, for nothing. Like, I'm not even gonna try to lie to y'all, okay? For nothing. And then there were sport, the sports celebrities. So new-paid Marcus Dupree, a former college football star.

• 55:00Speaker 06

  Uh-oh.

• 55:01Laci Mosley?

  He got thirty-seven.

• 55:03Speaker 06

  Marcus, I wanted to keep this on the, I want, I was hoping we didn't get it. I was hoping my people did not get involved, but the second I heard the name Marcus Dupree, I was like, oh.

• 55:11Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, you knew he was, you knew he was black.

• 55:13Speaker 06

  He was gonna be a bruh.

• 55:14Laci Mosley?

  Or how, or how racists like to call black people. Now, you knew he was gonna be a woke.

• 55:20Laci Mosley?

  It was gonna be a one.

• 55:21Speaker 06

  I was like Marcus and Dupree in the same name.

• 55:24Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 55:25Speaker 06

  I'm this is gonna be bad. Okay.

• 55:26Laci Mosley?

  It's giving us.

• 55:27Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 55:28Laci Mosley?

  So this is Marcus and he got three hundred seventy one thousand dollars to buy a four thousand square foot house with a swimming pool, pavilion and adjoining acreage on which Mr. Dupree was to maintain horses. Now you get how all this is going to the good and to the people in need because we need Marcus Dupree to have a house and also a horse station.

• 55:54Speaker 06

  I don't know many people in need who need a horse, period. I just feel like a horse is that that's always the thing that like rock stars buy when they're about to lose all their money on horse racing. Like I just feel like horses is just a sign of like you probably aren't in that. I mean, like unless you have a horse farm, you know, a horse or I'm sorry, a horse co-op, but if you don't have a horse co-op.

• 56:15Laci Mosley?

  Are you a wofer, a horse wofer?

• 56:18Speaker 06

  If you're a wofer with some herfers, yes, but I feel like that is not something that anybody in need really needs is a horse. There are probably some things that need to be in place first.

• 56:26Laci Mosley?

  Extremely expensive to maintain. So this isn't even like he stole some money and then he used it to buy a house, which yeah, you have to do maintenance on a house, but horses are very expensive. So we all just go keep giving him horse coins because what? In the charity filings, Dupree claimed the adjoining land next to his massive residence was to be used for equestrian activities for underprivileged children.

• 56:50Speaker 06

  Oh, now see, I love that idea. I love the idea of little kids for the, from the, from the, you know, for the city going out there and getting their equestrian on, you know, like in theory, I'm all for this, but I'm going to assume that they were not fulfilling that part of the bargain.

• 57:05Laci Mosley?

  They were like Marcus, which kids have visited the horse camp? He said, okay, so we got Tina Belcher. She love horses. She, she comes all the time.

• 57:13Speaker 06

  Belcher?

• 57:14Laci Mosley?

  And her family is very poor. They got a small business where they sell burgers and they're not doing well. So she loves to come.

• 57:21Speaker 06

  You know, her family's really in need, you know, they only have, you know, they have such a small lake house. It's so small.

• 57:29Laci Mosley?

  It's so small. So under TANF guidelines, Dupree was technically being compensated to demonstrate fatherhood, a value that aligned with the state sanctioned goals for impoverished families. So think about that.

• 57:42Speaker 06

  I hate that kind of stuff. I hate it when they try and put it on this myth that somehow black fathers aren't coming through for their families, that that the state sponsored initiative to encourage fatherhood, like if that that's that's another flip side.

• 57:55Laci Mosley?

  What's a state sponsored father? Hello, I'm here to be your state sponsored father. Get in there and do them dishes. And sign this form, sign this, uh, W four and then get, get out there and mow the lawn. I'm your dad.

• 58:09Speaker 06

  Oh my gosh, it's just, this is so many things I dislike. Feel free to go ahead. I'm, I feel like I'm going down the rabbit hole. Let's go.

• 58:17Laci Mosley?

  You've heard of Uncle Sam. Have you heard of Dad Marcus?

• 58:23Speaker 06

  Daddy Marcus.

• 58:24Laci Mosley?

  Daddy Marcus. I work for the government. I'm here to be your dad. Okay. So we will take, we will change a tire today. This only costing you $371,000. Okay. For me to be your father. So whenever he did anything for Families First, he would post about it on Facebook with the hashtag fatherhood.

• 58:46Laci Mosley?

  Also, families need food and rent and money for clothing and, and, and, you know, to be able to buy things that the kids need for their education. Families don't need you to, Marcus, how you gonna be everybody daddy? This is a mess.

• 59:01Speaker 06

  It's a mess.

• 59:03Laci Mosley?

  All right. So Davis also became very close with pro wrestler family Ted Junior, Ted Senior and Brett DeBiacy.

• 59:12Speaker 06

  Oh no, Brett DiBiase.

• 59:14Laci Mosley?

  DiBiase, okay.

• 59:15Speaker 06

  I remember him from back when I used to watch wrestling, yeah, yeah.

• 59:17Laci Mosley?

  Yes. And you could see how they would tie into government assistance for needy families.

• 59:23Speaker 06

  Or was it Ted? I think it was Ted, right?

• 59:26Laci Mosley?

  Ted Junior, Ted Senior, and Brett.

• 59:28Speaker 06

  Ted, oh, I got it. Okay, yeah, Ted DiBiase. Yeah, the Million Dollar Man. He was called the Million Dollar Man.

• 59:34Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 59:36Speaker 06

  The Million Dollar Man in anything regarding people in need. That's how he got to be a Million Dollar Man.

• 59:41Laci Mosley?

  I'm taking it.

• 59:42Speaker 06

  He hoards money. Yeah, exactly.

• 59:45Laci Mosley?

  And also, we're gonna post this photo on the Instagram because I just need to understand who was like, yes, this guy. This is the guy who.

• 59:51Speaker 06

  The man who has dollars falling from the sky and, and, and fire. So you know that he's already gone to hell for the things that he's done. Like Ted DiBiase is not gonna be a good head of an organization to help people in need. I'm sorry, y'all. Do, do the bare minimum research. Just i- image Google Ted DiBiase.

• 1:00:11Laci Mosley?

  Right. You know how people, uh, black folks love to Photoshop, uh, their relatives in the clouds when they die? Like, they already photoshopped my guy in hell.

• 1:00:18Speaker 06

  He's in hell. He's burning up with his money that's also burning up. This man's not even a good investor because his dollars are literally filed.

• 1:00:26Laci Mosley?

  On fire.

• 1:00:27Speaker 06

  Fire.

• 1:00:29Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, I can't believe, this is, this is hilarious. It's not for the families who didn't get the money that they need, but just if you see these characters, I don't even understand how they got along this far. So the charity received just $5,000 in grants in 2013, but in 2017, they were given $271,000 in grants. And I, what is the 71,000? We have the 371,000, 271,000. What's the 71 about? They're like, that's just enough to be close enough to 3K, but, or 300K, but not quite. Or residency flags.

• 1:01:00Speaker 06

  Is, is that, it's really just the 1,000 of that 271 that I'm like, oh, really? So it wasn't, you know, they got a little, they got a, they got an extra, they got an extra thousand for something.

• 1:01:10Laci Mosley?

  That's for taxes and fees. That's all. That's what the mail is for. So the same year, Davis hired Brett DiBiase as senior official at the Mississippi Department of Human Services with a $95,000 salary despite having no qualifications. This man literally, you know, was on television, wearing panties and no shirt and oiled up, wrestling other dudes.

• 1:01:30Speaker 06

  Holding, holding up belts of gold, like literally above his head, like, you know.

• 1:01:36Laci Mosley?

  And they're like, this is the guy. This is the guy. He's got qualifications to do community service and outreach and charity.

• 1:01:42Speaker 06

  Looks like a social worker to me. Looks like a social worker.

• 1:01:44Laci Mosley?

  He shows up shirtless everywhere he goes, just like this. I'm here to help the needy kids.

• 1:01:50Speaker 06

  Where are the kids?

• 1:01:52Laci Mosley?

  Where are the kids? I'm gonna help them so hard. Like, what? So, his hundred sixty thousand dollar, four month stay at a luxury drug rehab in California called Rise in Malibu was also covered, as was Davis's first-class flights to visit him.

• 1:02:11Speaker 06

  Wait, I'm sorry, he used the money to go to rehab?

• 1:02:14Laci Mosley?

  So he got separate money to go to rehab. He had a ninety-five thousand dollar, like, um, salary, but then he was like, hey, I actually need to go to rehab real quick, and I do need to go to the nicest rehabilitation facility. It is a hundred sixty K. Also, uh, my homeboy Davis, he's gonna have to fly private to come visit me. This is all a part of my work for the needy families.

• 1:02:37Speaker 06

  I mean, just think if we, if, if everybody who is sadly drug addicted on the street was like, you know what? I am addicted to this meth, and I'm going to take a private jet to Malibu and just hang out on the beach. Cause I'll say those ads for like the rehab centers in Malibu, they actually, my wife and I have talked, we, cause those things look like vacations, like, they look fantastic.

• 1:02:59Laci Mosley?

  They're really nice. You can get massages. They have great food, like the really high-end rehabilitation facilities. You know, like, some people will go and say that they're going for exhaustion, and I was like, do I need to go for exhaustion? Cause it's giving. Like, it's really giving, and obviously that's not the state of most rehabilitation facilities that are available for people who are not misappropriating government funds or who are not rich. You know what I mean? They're not this lavish, and you know, it's just a testament to money and to greed and...

• 1:03:27Speaker 06

  And nobody thinks any differently of them because they're what? White-collar criminals.

• 1:03:32Laci Mosley?

  Right. Emphasis on the white, except for Martin.

• 1:03:35Speaker 06

  Emphasis on the white. Yeah, it's always like, they're white-collar criminals.

• 1:03:41Laci Mosley?

  The criminals is quiet. They're white. God, criminals.

• 1:03:43Speaker 06

  Color, color criminals.

• 1:03:47Laci Mosley?

  What was that last part you said? No, I just said white collar.

• 1:03:49Speaker 06

  It just says white. Uh, go ahead.

• 1:03:52Laci Mosley?

  As a part of recent investigations, Ted Jr. Has alleged that he witnessed one of the main officials redirecting some of the funds away from a nonprofit that actually needed and used the money appropriately. The not, and this is a quote, "The nonprofit director was a supporter of the Democratic candidate for governor that year." So they were like, "Oh, you support, you support the Democrats? Okay, well then guess what? You can go nonprofit about to have nonprofits."

• 1:04:17Speaker 06

  What year was this?

• 1:04:18Laci Mosley?

  Uh, I don't know the year that this, uh, person is referring to, but we're in like 2013 to 2017 area. So if it was 2016, we're talking about someone not supporting Trump.

• 1:04:31Speaker 06

  Gavin Newsom or something. Okay. Yeah. Go ahead.

• 1:04:33Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, it's probably someone not being a Trump supporter.

• 1:04:36Speaker 06

  Mm hmm.

• 1:04:37Laci Mosley?

  Uh, all in all, more than 2 million in welfare funds was diverted to the DeBiasi group, which has not filed tax documents to the IRS in the past two years. So beyond stealing government, you know, funds, they're also not even paying taxes at all as citizens.

• 1:04:56Speaker 06

  I mean, they sound like the salt of the earth kind of guys that I really want in charge of my charity work.

• 1:05:02Laci Mosley?

  The best people, you know, okay, they're doing good stuff for them. They never said who the good stuff was for.

• 1:05:08Speaker 06

  Right. They just, they just said, "We support good stuff."

• 1:05:11Laci Mosley?

  It sounds really good for them. It sounds like they did a lot of good stuff for themselves. There were many instances of similar activities that not all ended up in the soup. Uh, $43,000 was even spent on a series of Bible-inspired children's book by Christian singer Jason Crab. So he done got some money for his books. What? I look at this man. Oh gosh. He's definitely getting youth pastor. He's like, "I'm gonna keep it real with you guys. Okay? I'm gonna flip my chair backwards and I'm gonna sit like..."

• 1:05:41Speaker 06

  Hey, hey, what's up, Jamarcus? Hey, I'm on your side, man.

• 1:05:44Laci Mosley?

  Let's talk about God, bro.

• 1:05:47Speaker 06

  Getting saved.

• 1:05:48Laci Mosley?

  So it goes all the way to the top. Recent findings have shown that the welfare scheme actually extends all the way to the governor, despite great attempts to have the buck stop that Nancy knew in John Davis. It appears that the official had directed funds away from a valid nonprofit that was actually then-Governor Phil Bryant. Note that Phil served as governor from 2012 to 2020. The current governor now is

• 1:06:10Speaker 06

  Phil Bryant, by the way, Phil Bryant looks like a Muppet version of Phil Bryant.

• 1:06:15Laci Mosley?

  He does, he really does. And like, there's definitely strings attached to that suit, even his arms.

• 1:06:21Speaker 06

  Oh, yeah, nice, nice analogy.

• 1:06:23Laci Mosley?

  So, according to Alice Wolf, basically, I'm gonna paraphrase here, but she's saying that the allegation that the sitting governor was directing how taxpayer funds would be spent in order to punish a political opponent is a huge deal. Because now, just because you're playing, you're playing politics with people's real lives in the same way that, you know, they were flying people to Martha's Vineyard, who had recently come into the country and, you know, destabilizing these people's lives when they're already in dire straits to make a political point. You know, you're, you're using things that people need and like, because you don't care about people. Politics aren't about people, so we know that. In 2017, conservative former football player quarterback Brett Favre texted with the Governor Bryant about guidance on how to write a funding proposal so that it could be accepted by

• 1:07:07Laci Mosley?

  the Mississippi Department of Human Services. So he said, "How do I lie so that I could get some funds from the government that I definitely should not have? You got tips? This is after..."

• 1:07:16Speaker 06

  Never, never send a text that says, "Is there any way the media can find out where it came from?" If you have to text that, then I'm gonna just go out on a limb and say, "Don't do it."

• 1:07:28Laci Mosley?

  Hey, um, if we do this crime, you think people are gonna find out? I just wanna cover all my bases. Do you think that the, the people will find out?

• 1:07:38Speaker 06

  It's a, it's a problem dude, it's a real problem if you gotta text something back.

• 1:07:41Laci Mosley?

  I need advice. Do you think?

• 1:07:45Laci Mosley?

  That I'm gonna go to jail for this?

• 1:07:46Speaker 06

  When you order a pizza and the pizza's late, you never like, is there any way the media can find out? Why my pizza's late? Like, that's never coming. That's always a tru- I, if I was on that jury, man, alright, wait, let's go.

• 1:07:58Laci Mosley?

  And also, why are you doing crime via text?

• 1:08:00Speaker 06

  Yeah, man, crime via text, mm.

• 1:08:03Laci Mosley?

  Stupid.

• 1:08:03Speaker 06

  Make a phone, make, place the phone call at least.

• 1:08:06Laci Mosley?

  Right. So this was, hey, you shouldn't have no emojis included in your crime.

• 1:08:14Laci Mosley?

  With the eyes. Do you think that anyone could ever find out about this eye emoji like?

• 1:08:19Speaker 06

  No, seriously, I, I, I thought about this just recently, like, uh, there's a dude who I frisked, but who's like, he's real hard, you know, he's real hard. But like every now and then I'll send him a text that he likes and he'll hit it with the, uh, with the heart response. And I'm like, damn, that heart response seems a, a little not like you, man. I would expect a thumbs up, maybe an, uh, emphasizing, you know, exclamation.

• 1:08:38Laci Mosley?

  Right.

• 1:08:39Speaker 06

  He hits me back with the hearts, so I'm like.

• 1:08:41Laci Mosley?

  The government, the governor puts a heart sign on, no, no, no, find out.

• 1:08:44Speaker 06

  I totally.

• 1:08:45Laci Mosley?

  No, he, I, he gave me his word with a heart emoji. He said, nobody was gonna find out I was stealing. This is bullshit.

• 1:08:51Speaker 06

  That's exactly.

• 1:08:53Laci Mosley?

  So this was after Governor Bryant ousted the welfare agency director, John Davis, for suspected fraud. So he's already kind of using people to be scapegoats and, you know, being like, oh, I can't believe they did that fraud. I never even, that's not how we run the government in Mississippi. We are stand-up dudes. So in recent, uh, recently released texts, Governor Bryant and Favre, New and Davis, worked together to channel at least five million dollars from this TANF, or TANF fund, to build a new volleyball stadium at the University of Southern Mississippi where Favre's daughter played. Though Favre was denied, has denied for years that he had any knowledge of welfare funds being diverted to build the stadium, initial plans included naming it after him.

• 1:09:33Speaker 06

  I was gonna say, he's like, I didn't know it had anything to do with me. They just named it after me.

• 1:09:38Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, I, you know, they were like, when we think of volleyball, who do we think of? Brett Favre.

• 1:09:46Laci Mosley?

  That's all. They know I'm huge in the volleyball community, that's it.

• 1:09:49Speaker 06

  They know I'm a huge fan of volleyball.

• 1:09:53Laci Mosley?

  Recent texts also show that he was warned by Governor Bryant that misuses of the grant funds was illegal, but he continued to push for the stadium anyway. Governor Bryant replied, "We're gonna get there, but we have to follow the law. I am too old for federal prison." I just, I don't.

• 1:10:09Speaker 06

  I am too old for federal prison, lol. These dudes are like the dumbest texters of all time.

• 1:10:15Laci Mosley?

  Right. He's like, "Do you know how bad the food is in federal prison? LMAO. I can't be going over there, Brett, child, but we gonna steal the money, though."

• 1:10:23Speaker 06

  He said a text like-

• 1:10:23Laci Mosley?

  Don't worry.

• 1:10:24Speaker 06

  He's like, "Embezzling funds, rolling on floors."

• 1:10:30Laci Mosley?

  So additionally, Favre received 1.1 million in TANF money in exchange for speeches and appearances that were never actually made. Who wants to see Brett Favre fucking talk? And definitely not for 1.1 million dollars to have a nasty man show up. Okay, I'd pay that to have him show up nowhere. What the fuck? So, I mean, essentially, that's what they paid for, because he ain't show up nowhere and he ain't speak to nobody.

• 1:10:52Speaker 06

  The rap lyric is not sold out seats to hear Brett Favre speak.

• 1:10:56Laci Mosley?

  No, it's not. It's not, and never will be. Like Dupree, Favre was also supposed to have been championing family values and fatherhood through his appearances and activities. Also, not a family values guy, nasty man, sexual assaulter. He's not family values, okay? He's nasty and gross, and I don't even understa- I mean, what the fuck? He also had 2 million dollars of TANF money routed to one of his pharmaceutical investments, a company called Prevacus or Prevasus. So, I'm counting so far, he got the 5 milli, the 2 milli, the 1.1, we at 8.1 million dollars.

• 1:11:35Speaker 06

  Insane.

• 1:11:37Laci Mosley?

  Though Favre is one of few involved in the scandal without charges against him, the investigation is ongoing and his weekly Sirius XM show has been suspended. Yes, take all his things, absolutely please, and also, put this man in jail where he's been belonging for a while, you know what I mean? So, in 2017, it was discovered that Mississippi's program rejected 98. Five percent of applicants for cash assistant the previous year. Yeah, they rejected them because they didn't have the money. They were assisting themselves to the cash. What the fuck they had to go get to the needed families and to themselves? That's not gonna work out. At the time, nearly fifty million dollars in funds was left unused. So they still have fifty million that they hadn't stole yet, but they were like, okay, but we gonna figure out a way to get it out of there. So we can't give it to the families because then how are we gonna eventually make up fake things to get it ourselves?

• 1:12:22Laci Mosley?

  So the agency stopped publishing its approval rate in annual reports after that because obviously no one's gonna approve, like approve of them because they not giving nobody what they were supposed to give them. In nineteen ninety-six, when TANF was introduced, thirty-three thousand adults were receiving assistance in Mississippi. Last year, that number was two hundred and eight.

• 1:12:40Speaker 06

  Wow, wow.

• 1:12:42Laci Mosley?

  In total, from twenty seventeen to twenty twenty, the state auditor has found at least seventy-seven million dollars in misuse of welfare funds in the county's poorest, or excuse me, in the country's poorest state, where its city capital has remained in a water crisis for over a month. They have brown water coming out of their faucets. Meanwhile, seventy-seven million dollars has been used for horses, mansions, speeches from nasty men who never actually gave the speeches, ideas, uh fake buildings, you know, blowouts, ugly dresses.

• 1:13:18Speaker 06

  Volleyball court.

• 1:13:20Laci Mosley?

  Yes, volleyball courts that need to be named after nasty men, you know, all of this. So Nancy New and her son Zach New and John Davis have pleaded guilty to charges related to bribery and misuse of welfare funds. They can face up to seventy-five years in prison. But TANF isn't just being misused. It's a genesis and very structure, excuse me, its genesis and very structure is based on the belief that mothers, especially black mothers, were getting the money that they didn't deserve and wasting it. Because that's literally what everyone wants to tell poor people what to do with their fucking money. And meanwhile, rich people are stealing the money and that is not, I don't care what a black woman in Mississippi used the funds for that they were clearly not given.

• 1:14:05Laci Mosley?

  It is better. Then what these motherfuckers were doing with it, stealing it.

• 1:14:10Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:14:11Laci Mosley?

  I don't care if she goes and gets her nails done. I don't care if she, you know, got fresh paint on her Kia. I don't give a fuck. It's way better than this weird ass shit. And I, I would bet my bottom dollar that most of these people, because when people need financial assistance, are using it so that they can keep their heads above water, especially when the water is brown.

• 1:14:31Speaker 06

  Yeah, I mean, nobody wants to be, you know, scalp deep in brown water. But I'd also point out, just getting serious for a second, that I feel like so much of this is always projection. So the same people who were stealing all this money are the same people who are like, oh, you can't give it to poor people. Cause then they're gonna, they're gonna spin it on themselves in ways we don't approve. Give it to me. And then they spin it in ways that no reasonable person should approve. It's just projecting. They're just projecting their own sort of like larcenous thoughts on these, you know, poor people who, for all purposes, should be given the chance to, like you said, get the money, help themselves out. Yes, maybe some of them would spend it in ways that aren't gonna help their situation.

• 1:15:16Speaker 06

  But it's better than these people who definitely spent their money in ways that didn't help anybody.

• 1:15:21Laci Mosley?

  Didn't help anybody. And when you're in abject poverty, there's always this disgusting assumption that you don't deserve joy. You don't deserve luxuries. Like if you are on a government assistance for like, like a WIC or a food program, they have very specific stipulations on what you can purchase with that card. Because God forbid somebody who's dealing with poverty every single day of their life want a goddamn fruit snack. Okay, you can't have a fruit snack bitch. I gotta take this private jet to go visit my homie in his luxury rehabilitation facility in Los Angeles, California.

• 1:15:51Speaker 06

  I, I, I was, I was told early on, and I, I, I don't know if this is a hundred, but I, I, it's basically in other countries, when people, you know, fall on hard times or find themselves, you know, financially, you know, at their lowest, there's this sense of, oh, we need to help them out because there but for the grace of God go I. And it's really only in certain countries like our own where, you know, a lot of people look at the Poor and think, well, it's their fault. You know, they don't think, oh, that could, that could be me. You know, under different circumstances, they don't see the poor as being part of their community. They just see the poor as being part of this, you know, other community.

• 1:16:32Laci Mosley?

  Right.

• 1:16:32Speaker 06

  And that can be racial.

• 1:16:33Laci Mosley?

  Unraveling problem.

• 1:16:34Speaker 06

  Yeah, that can be based on race, that can be based on class, but like that we, what we need to develop is a sense of, no, those are our fellow people and we should be looking out for them because Lord knows it could be us, you know, we need to stop seeing the poor as them and start seeing it as us.

• 1:16:50Laci Mosley?

  And beyond that, there's so much helping people who are in unfortunate situations or dire straits, isn't just about seeing yourselves and seeing their humanity. It's also about the fact that when we help the people who are going through the worst in our communities, we are helping ourselves. When we lift everyone up, there's so much untapped potential, so much knowledge, so many people who could do so much good in the world if they just simply have the opportunity. And that would also benefit you if you're the type of person who can't ever do anything that's simply altruistic, you know what I mean?

• 1:17:21Speaker 06

  A hundred percent.

• 1:17:22Laci Mosley?

  That also exists. And so it's just really fucking gross to see, you know, how we'll allow the rich to steal from us and be like, look over there, it's that man who's taking your cookie. Meanwhile, you got the whole damn cookie jar. Shut the fuck up.

• 1:17:35Speaker 06

  The numbers usually prove that it is far cheaper from a taxpayer perspective to do the government assistance than to incarcerate. But we choose in this country to incarcerate and spend more money doing that than to actually give people better lives.

• 1:17:51Laci Mosley?

  It is expensive to, you know, it isn't, what is it? It's in the like five figures a year for each prison inmate.

• 1:17:59Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:18:00Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. So it's, guys, what are we doing? Um, so the corruption has gone on unchecked for many years because the system is being misused and it's performing as it was designed. So there, it went on for forever because they were like, yeah, we made the system to steal. And then it is working really great. We stealing a lot. Uh, the theft numbers are up. We're, you know, we're in the black.

• 1:18:24Laci Mosley?

  It's really deplorable and I think that this should be getting more national attention because it is literally the foundation of this country is victim blaming in every sense of the word.

• 1:18:33Speaker 06

  Every sense, yeah.

• 1:18:34Laci Mosley?

  We need to assure ourselves our own safety and how could we do that if we don't blame victims? If we don't blame victims who are attacked on the street, if we don't blame women who are assaulted and men as well and people who don't identify as either. If we don't blame poor people for being poor, then how can we rationalize that this will never happen to me?

• 1:18:53Speaker 06

  Yeah, I mean, I think the the goal is to to to fight all that and make some progress, man. It's not gonna be easy, but I think we can do it.

• 1:19:00Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, but Mississippi, y'all were, y'all already didn't really have great stats, okay? Nobody's ever been like, you know, when we should go on vacation, Mississippi.

• 1:19:08Speaker 06

  I'm going, yeah, but you know what? Like there are places like Jackson, Mississippi and.

• 1:19:13Laci Mosley?

  Oh, I have family in Jackson.

• 1:19:14Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:19:14Laci Mosley?

  Belupsea.

• 1:19:15Speaker 06

  All all black people have some family somewhere in Mississippi.

• 1:19:18Laci Mosley?

  In Mississippi, yeah.

• 1:19:19Speaker 06

  I'm hoping we can get get that that all straightened out.

• 1:19:22Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, I hope so too. We'll see how this goes. I hope, even though I'm not about the prison industrial system at all. I I won't lie, I want to see these bitches on the chain gang. I want to see uh Ms. New, I want to see her roots grow out. Um, I want her shit to be crazy as fuck.

• 1:19:37Speaker 06

  Yeah, I doubt that's gonna happen though, because I bet you they go to what? A white collar prison, so.

• 1:19:43Laci Mosley?

  See, and that's some bullshit. I want them to go to the prison I saw in that movie Life with Martin Lawrence. I want y'all to have to be head and hands.

• 1:19:51Speaker 06

  I want them begging somebody for some cornbread. That's what I want to do.

• 1:19:54Laci Mosley?

  Right, I want you to have a shovel and you just gotta hit the ground all day. There's no purpose to it. You're just outside, hit, doing manual labor. I want y'all to be woofers.

• 1:20:04Speaker 06

  Yeah, exactly, to call it a co-op.

• 1:20:07Laci Mosley?

  Right, y'all need to be in the co-op. But all right, guys, we've made it to the satisfied of the show, the end where I have to let y'all go. But first, we're just gonna do a quick scammer of the week. This is where we highlight a charlatan who's worthy of our praise or maybe not. We'll see. Today, we're talking about singer Shakira. Who has been ordered to stand trial in Spain for alleged tax fraud against the public treasury of España. Spanish prosecutors allege that Shakira failed to pay personal income and wealth taxes between 2012 and 2014, about fifteen point eight million dollars. So they say, yeah, her hip's not lying, but these, uh.

• 1:20:44Speaker 06

  These tax documents do.

• 1:20:45Laci Mosley?

  They do, the tax documents do. She has denied this, stating in a recent interview with Elle magazine, "I paid everything they said I owed, even before they filed a lawsuit. So as of today, I owe zero to them." I know, that's right. Settle Shakira, you better let them know, okay? I love her. Spanish officials claim that Shakira lived in Spain for over a hundred and eighty-three days annually between 2011 and 2014, while Shakira says her primary residence was in the Bahamas at the time. Oh, I didn't know she was getting her Bahamian on.

• 1:21:17Speaker 06

  That's when you hear somebody, that's when you hear somebody's like, oh, but you know, you see them every day, but they're like, they, they, they claim to live in the Cayman Islands. Like, it's a little bit suspicious.

• 1:21:27Laci Mosley?

  Listen, I thought about doing that, you know, like get a house in a cheaper state and then be like, I don't live in California, I ain't giving y'all another state tax. I live in Boise, Idaho.

• 1:21:38Speaker 06

  You didn't know, you didn't know, I've been Florida, I've been Florida for, for years now.

• 1:21:42Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, that's where I, I, I.

• 1:21:46Laci Mosley?

  I'm thinking about it though, it's just like, no, I just be visiting over here, okay? No, my real home is in Skynectity.

• 1:21:53Speaker 06

  Yes, yes, do I live in Costa Rica? Yes, I live in Costa Rica, but you do see me every day at Blue Bottle in Studio City, California.

• 1:22:02Laci Mosley?

  But that's just me on vacation. I go on vacation three hundred and sixty-five days a year in California. But I don't live here.

• 1:22:09Speaker 06

  But this is not home, you know, you know me, I, I'll never forget where I came from, the Cayman Islands.

• 1:22:14Laci Mosley?

  Which is Costa Rica.

• 1:22:15Speaker 06

  Costa Rica.

• 1:22:17Laci Mosley?

  So spokesperson for us that Shakira and her team consider that this case constitutes a total violation of her rights since she has always shown impeccable behavior as a person and a taxpayer and she does have her charities and her charities do good stuff for real that you can actually document and see. So I do, I do appreciate Shakira as a global influencer. Prosecutors are seeking an eight-year prison sentence plus fines if she's convicted. And I've also heard that the Spanish government tries to do this shakedown on rich celebrities pretty often. And so it's not the first occurrence that they've come for the girls like coins, which is surprising. The government literally just makes shit up and is like, you owe this. They talk about I owe them. I was like, I gave y'all so much goddamn money. I'm talking about I owe you some more. For what? Show a receipt. For what?

• 1:23:02Laci Mosley?

  For what? For when?

• 1:23:03Speaker 06

  It's worth paying that extra money to have somebody else do your taxes. I'll say that every time.

• 1:23:08Laci Mosley?

  Oh, I do. I have an accountant. And that's why I was really mad because I was like, I have a great accountant and they're still like, oh, girl from 2019, you know, you had some payroll taxes that you didn't pay. And I'm like, for who? I didn't have any employees at that time. What are you talking about? Like, you know, they just make shit up. And what are you gonna do? Fight them? Like, you can't. I wish I could fist fight the government. I would. But guys, that brings us to the end of the show. Before we let Diallo go, we want to know, Diallo, where can you be found? What can people tune into? What can they watch? What are your socials? Where would you like to be found?

• 1:23:38Speaker 06

  I can be found on Instagram @Diallo.

• 1:23:42Laci Mosley?

  As always, guys, you can stitch on your friends and family, [email protected]. If you want to see these insane photos of these nasty ass criminals, scamgodesspod on Instagram and on Twitter, you know, that's where I just talk to y'all. And if you want to see me, D I B A L A C I, Diva Lacy on all platforms. Oh, I got a baby in the brain. Hello. Yes.

• 1:24:00Speaker 06

  The kid just got home.

• 1:24:02Laci Mosley?

  Oh, I love it. I love it. All right, congregation, stay misappropriated.

• 1:24:11Laci Mosley?

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