Pod Insights Scam Goddess The Dubious Diplomat w/ Ira Madison III (Re-Release) About this episode CONgregation, in today’s episode, we’re revisiting Episode 18, when Laci was joined for the first time by TV writer and podcaster Ira Madison III (Q-Force, YOU). Together, they uncover the “Fraud Prince,” Anthony Gignac, read some of your letters, and dive into JCPenney fooling influencers with a fake high-end store. Stay schemin’! (Originally Released 01/27/2020)
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Research by Sharilyn Vera
SOURCES
https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2018/10/how-the-fake-saudi-prince-anthony-gignac-was-exposed
https://nypost.com/2019/06/01/fake-saudi-prince-who-flaunted-on-instagram-sentenced-in-fraud-scheme/
https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2018/10/he-actually-believes-he-is-khalid-the-odyssey-of-a-counterfeit-saudi-prince
https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/29/business/payless-fake-store/index.html
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2:32 Laci Mosley? What's up congregation? It's your girl, Lacey Mosley, AKA Scam Goddess. Back with another episode of the show, Scam Goddess. Yes, I named the show after me, honey. I always say I'm excited by my guests. I always mean it, but I truly am because this happened on Twitter, honey. So this is actually on y'all. Shout out to the Twitter fans who have started making requests and bookings, honey. Bookings. So guys, we have Ira Madison III in the building.
2:59 Speaker 04 Hello.
3:00 Laci Mosley? How are you?
3:00 Speaker 04 Good, good. I really did get booked via Twitter.
3:04 Laci Mosley? Booked via Twitter. He has a really amazing podcast called Keep It that you all should be listening to if you're not already. It's hilarious, it's so good. And he's a TV writer. And if you love you, he's on the second season of You, making a little cameo. And it's so good.
3:17 Speaker 04 Talking about scams, scam my way into that.
3:20 Laci Mosley? Oh, my gosh. Yes, right, right, right. Because you write for TV and then you know someone, you know someone who made that show?
3:26 Speaker 04 Yes.
3:27 Laci Mosley? Yes, that's so dope. Wait, so you're the third. So there's, there's three other Ira Madison, your grandpa?
3:32 Speaker 04 There's two others.
3:33 Laci Mosley? There's two other, I can't count.
3:36 Laci Mosley? I was like, and there's three more?
3:37 Speaker 04 Yeah, they're dead. It's all good. We can talk about that.
3:40 Laci Mosley? Okay.
3:43 Laci Mosley? All right, well, there we go.
3:45 Speaker 04 Ira, the only.
3:47 Laci Mosley? You're the only person to, to make that statement after the former. Oh, I love it, guys. As you can see, this is already going to be a fun ass episode. I can't wait. So Ira, what is your relationship with scams?
3:58 Speaker 04 What is? You know, I feel like I love a good scam. You know, anything from when I went to like the Golden Globes, like after parties last year. I stopped, I stopped by Sephora and got the face done.
4:16 Laci Mosley? You know, I learned that.
4:17 Speaker 04 Before, before going home and changing.
4:20 Laci Mosley? Next top model.
4:21 Speaker 04 Did you?
4:21 Laci Mosley? Yes.
4:22 Speaker 04 Yeah.
4:22 Laci Mosley? If you're out, you gotta go somewhere and you need to beat your face real quick. Just go into a makeup store and just start using all the products.
4:27 Speaker 04 Yes. Oh, no, I, I sat, I sat down and got like a, oh, just show me, you know, like the highlighter, like the, the everything.
4:34 Laci Mosley? Show me the full face.
4:35 Speaker 04 Yes, I was like, ooh, can I get some of those samples? And then rolled out.
4:39 Laci Mosley? Show me a lash, show me a blotting sheet, show me a to-go bag. I love it. I love it. Yes. I um, I stopped scamming on award shows a few years ago because I was like, okay, I'm getting to the point where like, I will be invited to them, so I need to stop just showing up and scheming. It's too hot, but I used to do that.
4:59 Speaker 04 It's so easy in LA to do it too, like trying to scam your way into a party too.
5:02 Laci Mosley? Oh, yeah.
5:03 Speaker 04 It's great.
5:03 Laci Mosley? I scammed my way into the Fox Searchlight Emmys party last, uh, two years ago.
5:07 Speaker 04 Okay.
5:07 Laci Mosley? Two and a half years, maybe three years ago.
5:09 Speaker 04 How'd you do that?
5:09 Laci Mosley? Um, I just showed up and it was funny because we were just at the VH1 Hip Hop Honors, which is a whole different vibe. I was wearing a white plastic dress. It worked, but not-
5:21 Speaker 04 But they weren't ready for it.
5:21 Laci Mosley? Not the Emmys vibe, though.
5:22 Speaker 04 They weren't ready.
5:23 Laci Mosley? No, no, no, no, no. Uh, but I showed up and I was like, ah, I left my whatever credentials and I was like, I gotta go. I just pretended to be drunk and I was like, I gotta go back to the bathroom. I left my wallet and they were just like, okay.
5:37 Laci Mosley? I ain't been up in there at all.
5:38 Speaker 04 I love it.
5:39 Laci Mosley? Yes. It was good. It was great. Yes. So you know, so all you gotta do is act like you belong there. That's one of the things I love about scammers. It's just acting like you belong.
5:46 Speaker 04 You always get caught when you walk up and look nervous like you're about to ask someone a question. You just gotta keep walking.
5:51 Laci Mosley? Exactly. And look bored. You gotta look like everything here is nasty.
5:55 Speaker 04 Yeah.
5:55 Laci Mosley? I don't want to be here. And that's how you get inside.
5:57 Speaker 04 Mm-hmm.
5:58 Laci Mosley? Yeah. Well, guys, we have a listener letter for What's Hot and Fraud. Guys, you've been sending in such great listener letters. My only notice, some of these is too long, honey. Y'all sending me books, okay? Look, I read my books on my vacations. I do not read them in my inbox, y'all. Keep it succinct, okay? Um, but this one comes from, what am I gonna name you? Leroy Jenkins. And Leroy says, "Love the podcast." Oh, thank you. Okay. "I want to tell you about an old scam that my coworker was running at a restaurant that I worked at in college. She would enter a tip on the credit card when closing out the table, and she would add a dollar or two to whatever the tip the person left. And she got away with it for months before someone actually checked their credit card statement and called about it. I wasn't working there anymore when she got caught, but I heard she got arrested for it."
6:43 Laci Mosley? So, oh no. Also, she was having an affair with the owner.
6:50 Laci Mosley? You dropped dime on my sis.
6:52 Speaker 04 Ooh, you know what? That reminds me. Uh, so I used to be a bartender, um, but one of my bartending gigs was on Broadway, like the Broadway theaters, like at the Phantom of the Opera Theater, uh, in August, Osage County. Uh, I did a chorus line at Chicago a couple of times.
7:09 Laci Mosley? Were they drinking a lot?
7:10 Speaker 04 Yes, yes.
7:11 Laci Mosley? Those are drinking shows.
7:12 Speaker 04 Yes, particularly Phantom of the Opera. Uh, I love that musical, but the stage show is the same one since eighty-six. It needs to update. Um, but there'd be people who took like their wives or like girlfriends and stuff to the show, or even some women sometimes too, but they'd just be like, during the second act, they'd be like, I'm, I'm good. Like they're downstairs, just like knocking back, knocking them back.
7:36 Laci Mosley? I bartended too. I also did wait tables. I'm trying to.
7:39 Speaker 04 I'm sorry. The reason I brought this up was because I worked with someone who used to tell people higher prices that, cause the prices weren't listed. So they would be like, oh, like, say like a vodka soda is seven dollars. It's Broadway, so it was like ten. But they'd be like twelve. And then that extra two dollars, they would put into the tip jar.
8:05 Laci Mosley? Yes, that's a scam. Listen, people don't be tipping and as someone who's worked for tips.
8:10 Speaker 04 And I was like, I'm not snitching. So, because we shared tips. So I was like, well.
8:15 Laci Mosley? Look, I'm not robbing people, but if you.
8:17 Speaker 04 Right. I joined, I just joined too. Um, so I was like, they've been running this racket for you. Like this ain't got nothing to do with me.
8:25 Laci Mosley? Don't fuck up the bank. Now, wait, were you giving the accurate price? Cause then that could fuck it up. If like they went to homie once and then, and it was twelve and then they come over to you and it's ten.
8:32 Speaker 04 Right, but these people were drunk and like, it, I feel like one time it got messed up and then someone was just like, um, oh, you must like me. He charged me a little bit more. I'm like, I'm discounting like whatever.
8:43 Laci Mosley? They're a scammer too. Cause instead of being like, what's going on here? They were like, ooh, less?
8:47 Speaker 04 Yes.
8:48 Laci Mosley? I will take less.
8:49 Speaker 04 Yes, but you know, I was like, I was broke. I was living in New York. I was twenty-one. I was like, as long as they are doing their scam, let me.
8:57 Laci Mosley? Listen, I bartended.
8:58 Speaker 04 They were the boss too, so.
8:59 Laci Mosley? Okay, well then you gotta just play your position. Okay, yeah, exactly. I hate when somebody doesn't play their position. I did bartend too in New York. When I was actually at twenty-two, uh, I was working in the Hamptons. And child, it was so many scams going up in my job, like. We, the, the, the, the owner, not the owner, but the manager was just like, uh, cocaine and he was drunk all the time. So he would just be gone. Like, so then, like, eventually I learned all the pass codes, all the systems. So that I would be doing the managing, cause he would be somewhere turned up. And there was waiters, they was selling drugs. It was a wild place.
9:33 Speaker 04 I love the jobs where you can be, so one of my first jobs in New York was working at Banana Republic.
9:39 Laci Mosley? Oh.
9:39 Speaker 04 And Thirty Rock.
9:41 Laci Mosley? Yes, that's a busy Banana Republic.
9:43 Speaker 04 Yes, well, I wouldn't know. Why did I transfer there from the one that I worked at in Chicago when I moved to New York? And I, at a certain point, I stopped going. I really only went because I had a friend who was in New York for the summer that year that I first moved there. And they were interning at Business Week. And so they would always be like going on group lunches and it was in Thirty Rock. And I was always like, oh, I'll have lunch with y'all. Like, that's how I made friends with them.
10:12 Speaker 04 So I would just show up to work really to like come to lunch with them and take like a long lunch. Cause you know, you only get thirty minutes on like retail, but I'd be there for an hour. And then at a certain point, I just stopped going. And then they called me and said, like, a month later, and were like, hey, you've been missing us some shifts. Like, do you wanna come in? And I was like, sure. And then I went in. And then like halfway into the shift, I was like, no, I gotta quit, I gotta go.
10:36 Laci Mosley? I can't believe, they must've been, the Nanner must be desperate, honey, cause they, they were like, please come back to work.
10:41 Speaker 04 It was Thirty Rockefeller in the middle of the summer. I feel like they were just like, they needed bodies.
10:46 Laci Mosley? Right, they didn't even care who it was. Cause I was about to say, Ira, you are a black man, you are very tall. And I was like, how did nobody notice your black ass was missing from the Banana Republic? Guys, I think we are short a negro. Haven't seen Ira in a while.
11:00 Speaker 04 Where's he at? Golden class?
11:04 Laci Mosley? Everybody just keeps saying you in the back.
11:05 Speaker 04 Right.
11:07 Laci Mosley? Yeah, they must have been real busy because in retail usually like it's a high turnover. So they'll get rid of you quick, but they were like, please, sir, can you just come back to where if you don't mind? If you have any free time, could you come back to your employment?
11:18 Speaker 04 Just please.
11:20 Laci Mosley? Shout out to Banana Republic.
11:23 Laci Mosley? Are they still doing okay?
11:25 Speaker 04 I don't know. I I I tried to go into a Banana Republic recently and I was like, it's just really nothing for.
11:30 Laci Mosley? Who are their clothes for?
11:32 Speaker 04 I I don't know, because I feel like when I was in like high school, well, I went to a all boys like Catholic high school. But even I felt like when I was in high school and like college, like that was a thing like that was fancy, quote unquote, right?
11:46 Laci Mosley? Right.
11:46 Speaker 04 For like my family. So they were like, oh, we'll go get you like a sweater at Banana Republic, something like that. Uh, but then, I don't know, at a certain point, living in New York, I grew out of shopping at Banana Republic. Because what would I get there?
11:59 Laci Mosley? I did too. And now I'm thinking about like who their demographic is. I feel like it's like.
12:02 Speaker 04 White secretaries.
12:03 Laci Mosley? Anybody who calls a manager.
12:05 Speaker 04 Yes.
12:06 Laci Mosley? Um, I feel like that's who they're outfitting. Yeah. And I guess like corporate, you, yeah, yeah. I don't know, child. But was Michelle Obama wearing Banana Republic?
12:15 Speaker 04 Maybe, but you know, probably like couture Banana Republic. Okay.
12:20 Laci Mosley? Plantain Republic.
12:24 Laci Mosley? Michelle got on that new plantain. Yes.
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14:17 Laci Mosley? Guys, it's time for my favorite. Savor it and favorite.
14:22 Speaker 04 Savor it.
14:23 Laci Mosley? Savor it.
14:24 Speaker 04 Savor the favorite.
14:25 Laci Mosley? Yes, savor the favorite. Section of this podcast called Historic Hood Wings. So I'm going to regale Ira with a very infamous con and we're going to get his thoughts on this one. So I thought about you when I, when I chose this. I think that you'll enjoy this and you already said you worked in retail. So you know a little bit about the fashion and the flexing.
14:47 Laci Mosley? The story is a fake Saudi prince who flaunted on Instagram and has been sentenced to major fraud schemes. And he posed for decades as a name or under the name Prince Khalid. Yes.
15:01 Speaker 04 The singer?
15:05 Laci Mosley? Bring it right back.
15:06 Speaker 04 Removed from Instagram.
15:08 Laci Mosley? Um, so when his cover was about to be blown, he staged a tantrum in an Aspen hotel to try to cover it up. So he fought till the end. And that's what I love. Like, I don't want you to give up. I don't want you to quit. Like, if it's going left, like, you go down with the ship. My man's played it like the Titanic. He was on his violin, just playing as the scam ship went down. And I'm living for it. So this is how it started. His name is Gignac, and he's right behind you. If you want to take a look at him, he kinda cute.
15:36 Speaker 04 Oh, he is cute. He's cute.
15:37 Laci Mosley? Yeah, I feel like that furthered the scam. We've talked about this. Scammers have to be courageous. It helps if you a little sexy. You know what I mean? Because everybody likes to look at a sexy person.
15:45 Speaker 04 Yes. Ugly scammers, I'm very proud of them.
15:49 Laci Mosley? Because they have overcome the odds.
15:50 Speaker 04 Yes, they have.
15:51 Laci Mosley? Because everybody looked at them and said, no. And they somehow got them to say yes. And I am, if you're a not-so-hot scammer, honestly, you're doing the Lord's work. Damn, this is his current Instagram. He has 3,000 followers.
16:04 Speaker 04 What's the recent photo? When was it recently taken?
16:07 Laci Mosley? Yeah, click on that.
16:09 Laci Mosley? And it was-
16:10 Speaker 04 Oh, October 2017.
16:11 Laci Mosley? Okay, so he been in the clink for at least two years.
16:14 Speaker 04 Yeah.
16:15 Laci Mosley? Why you not on a gram in the clink, bruh? JT had her jail gram popping.
16:20 Laci Mosley? JT never missed a photo shoot.
16:22 Speaker 04 Double Tap JT.
16:23 Laci Mosley? Right.
16:24 Speaker 04 Free JT and Double Tap JT.
16:26 Laci Mosley? Every time they said they had yard time, she was like, bet, let's get the lights together. Get my ring light. Because she gave us looks in the prison, okay? Okay, so damn, he was living good, I guess, until up around October 2017.
16:40 Laci Mosley? His Instagram has like 3,000 followers. The name is like Prince underscore O7? Which don't sound like-
16:46 Speaker 04 Prince Dubai O7.
16:48 Laci Mosley? Prince Dubai O7, which honestly sounds like something I would have made my AOL AIM profile when I was in 7th grade.
16:54 Speaker 04 Look, this thing with like a stack in the car, okay.
16:57 Laci Mosley? So his name is Gignac. That's his real name, not Prince Khalid. And, um, he went by the moniker Prince Khalid, Al Saud of Saudi Arabia. And for more than three decades, honey, three of them things. Chronicle because of his phony life of luxury on Instagram, which we're looking at right now. The 48-year-old lived in Miami's star-studded Fisher Island, which-
17:20 Speaker 04 Forty-eight?
17:22 Speaker 04 People are good.
17:22 Laci Mosley? Right?
17:24 Speaker 04 The G's.
17:25 Laci Mosley? Khalid, what are we rubbing on that skin? Cause I need some. So, he referred to himself as prince, sultan, and his royal highness. These are the names for himself. And he demanded pricey gifts from his business partners. But in reality, Gignac was from Colombia, an orphan born Anthony Moreno. So, that ain't even his name. So, his real name is Anthony Moreno. We got three aliases going on here, and I love a scammer alias. Mine is a little too obvious. I've said that before, I'm gonna work on it.
17:53 Speaker 04 People are so rude, the comments on this.
17:55 Laci Mosley? What the, what?
17:56 Speaker 04 These posts were made before he got sentenced to eighteen years. Wow.
17:59 Laci Mosley? Damn. People are so disrespectful. The next one says, bahahaha. Wait, go back. The next one says, bahahaha. Great seeing him on American Greed. Cry face, cry face, cry face. So, he must have been on another show called American Greed, cause people are getting the tea. Wait, scroll up, I wanna see some more of these comments. People are disrespectful. I gotta have somebody deactivate my Instagram when I'm dead, cause I do not want y'all commenting on my swimsuit pics. I'm so R.I.P.
18:25 Speaker 04 He will read our comments in twenty thirty-eight.
18:30 Laci Mosley? Ooh, y'all are shady.
18:31 Speaker 04 Oh, free Foxy.
18:33 Laci Mosley? Yes, free my mans, I'm with it. Is Foxy the dog? He taking a picture with a dog. I can't. Guys, people are rude, okay? They are on his Instagram, turning the fuck up, and it's very funny. Well.
18:46 Speaker 04 All you envious people, most of you would trade, gladly trade your whole lives for one month of his in his prime.
18:53 Laci Mosley? Listen, you better stand up for our king.
18:55 Speaker 04 Right, my whole life though? Come on.
18:57 Laci Mosley? My whole life? For, for, okay, would you trade your whole life for thirty years of being filthy nasty rich?
19:03 Speaker 04 Well, thirty years? I'm old now too. Like.
19:08 Laci Mosley? I was really contemplating.
19:10 Speaker 04 Send me to prison at that age. I don't even wanna be here no more.
19:14 Laci Mosley? Is it, yeah, I feel like going to prison older is definitely better than going younger. Even though, I guess you would want creature comforts when you're older, but when you young, you hot, spicy. Like, you're supposed to have them thighs out here in the streets.
19:24 Speaker 04 Yeah, three decades.
19:27 Laci Mosley? That's a long time.
19:27 Speaker 04 I would be like, you know, like, you're supposed to do that scam and then like quit, right? Before you get caught, but I guess if you did it for three decades, you. You just get used, you think you're never gonna get caught.
19:37 Laci Mosley? Right. Also, it's a profession, like scamming is a profession. And a lot of people, some people get in and get out, or they get in and they go straight. Like Jay-Z was a scammer and then he went straight, cleaned up all his money, paid a friend to go to jail for him. Y'all, don't, don't have Beyonce out here trying to kill me, dawg. That's all I'ma say, okay? Beyonce, I didn't mean any of that. I love your husband. You, you love him right now, right? We loving him? I just gotta check with Beyonce before I say I love Jay-Z.
20:02 Laci Mosley? She love him, I love him. She don't wanna talk to him, I'm not talking to him. That's how it goes. Um, but okay, so, the real Prince Khalid is actually seventy-nine years old. Um, and he's the governor of Mecca, which I thought was interesting too, because he picked somebody so old that like, we're not gonna see any pics of real Khalid on the gram. Like, ain't no seventy-nine-year-old out here posting Snapchat, so we've probably never seen photos.
20:23 Speaker 04 Just Drake's dad.
20:26 Laci Mosley? Drake's dad is too lit for me. I've seen Drake's dad in the club and it made me question my life choices.
20:31 Speaker 04 Truly.
20:31 Laci Mosley? I was like, Drake's dad is right here. What am I doing?
20:35 Laci Mosley? One of us is not supposed to be here, and I'm thinking it's me. So, the word was spreading that there was a Saudi prince in Miami and he was looking to invest six hundred million dollars. And people were excited. The city was talking, the streets were talking. So Jeffrey Soffer, who's a billionaire real estate developer who owns the famous Fountain Blue, which I've stayed in, and the Fountain Blue is very cute, so you can meet your little athlete up in there, honey. Okay? Um, and it's in Miami Beach, uh, they have a few of them. Oh, and it's also where Club Live is. Isn't Live in the Fountain Blue?
21:05 Speaker 04 I think so.
21:06 Laci Mosley? Yeah, it is. I'm pretty sure. So it's a very lit place. There's always celebs, there's always a rapper, and a Maybach, Maybach music. So, he says he wants to invest six hundred million dollars in the Fountain Blue. So Soffer initially fell for the ploy. That's the guy who owns it. Um, gifting the Crooked Shake with fifty thousand dollars in luxury items. Because this is like a customary thing, like amongst like Saudi Arabian culture and how they do business. It's like you will gift people, uh, with, you know, possessions or whatever, just so, I guess like good faith or whatever. So this was not abnormal for Jeffrey Soffer in this kinda situation. Surprisingly. I'mma call him Anthony. They got him listed in here as Giknak, but I'm like, who is that? His name is Anthony Moreno.
21:50 Laci Mosley? So Anthony Moreno has been arrested 11 times for Prince-related schemes prior to the latest case. So he has been getting caught.
21:58 Speaker 04 Okay.
21:59 Laci Mosley? But he's been getting out.
22:00 Speaker 04 He kept doing it. Okay.
22:02 Laci Mosley? Which I, I love that, because maybe it's like he gets caught and he's like, okay, let me tweak that, let me recalibrate.
22:06 Speaker 04 Yes. It's like feedback, criticism. Yes.
22:10 Laci Mosley? He gets caught and it's criticism. He's like, okay.
22:12 Speaker 04 Feedback, feedback.
22:15 Laci Mosley? They're like, sir, why are you taking notes right now? He's like, no. So what else y'all charging me with? Okay, and how did y'all find that out?
22:23 Laci Mosley? He here trying to improve. I love it. I would love to just go to jail and be like, yeah, so what am I doing wrong in my crimes? Like, please let me know. So he keeps up this gimmick, um, by always traveling with his Chihuahua Foxy, which we saw his fans on his Instagram.
22:36 Speaker 04 Yes, Free Foxy.
22:38 Laci Mosley? Free Foxy. And where did Foxy go? That's the real victim here. And she had a diamond encrusted collar, honey. Is that diamond collar in that picture? Very rich. If your dog has jewelry, then you know you're rich. So that's a diamond encrusted collar for your dog.
22:53 Speaker 04 Yes. Why are you flooding out your dog? I have questions.
22:57 Laci Mosley? Damn, I just want to be your dog at this point.
22:59 Speaker 04 Can I get the collar?
23:01 Laci Mosley? That'll fit around my neck. I'm gonna get that around my neck, get a little extension going. Give me some rope. Um, I'm new, I'm his new dog. So, to save money on keeping up appearances, he often bought cheap Rolexes available, and then, or the cheapest Rolexes available, and then he would have a jeweler glue inexpensive diamonds to them, many of them fake.
23:21 Laci Mosley? Listen, as much as I'd like to think that I have an eye for diamonds, if someone had a jewel encrusted Rolex, like, it was some zirconia on there, I wouldn't know.
23:29 Speaker 04 No.
23:30 Laci Mosley? Especially if he mixed it in, if it was like a few real ones with some zirconiums too, child. And diamonds are a scam. You know how many diamonds are in the world? The only reason they're precious is because they're hoarding them and bringing them out little by little. So, as you guys know.
23:42 Speaker 04 Free the diamonds.
23:43 Laci Mosley? Free the diamonds. That's my new campaign. Free the diamonds. So he leased and borrowed luxury cars, yachts, and under various pretenses, he would like have these different cars and vehicles. And then, when they would disappear, he said he'd grown tired of them. So we'd be like, oh, hey, hey, Priscillie, what happened to that Maybach you had last week? Oh, uh, I was tired of it. I was tired of it. But wasn't it a 2020? Yeah, yeah, but you know, it's some new shit out.
24:10 Speaker 04 What happened to that boo you was dating? Got tired? I got tired. I moved on. I'm in your apartment. I got tired of it.
24:18 Laci Mosley? I got tired of my apartment.
24:19 Speaker 04 That's why I'm at this hotel.
24:21 Laci Mosley? What happened to your shoes?
24:24 Laci Mosley? I got tired of shoes. We're going barefoot now. That's what real rich people do. So, we would all go to lunch in Miami and the Sultan would say, "Let's go to the Four Seasons because my family owns it." Recalls Visser, who was a CBS sportscaster. So now he did the next scammer thing, which is I could just scammer crew, like friends who got money, people who make you look pop. So when Leslie's husband asked the prince, "Which one of the king's wives is your mother?", he chuckled and responded, "The good one."
24:56 Laci Mosley? Yo, my man's just a liar. Like, why would you hear that and then be like, "Okay, that adds up."
25:03 Speaker 04 Yeah. It's very sketchy.
25:06 Laci Mosley? Like, if I asked you who your parents were, okay. So, her husband, who was with the CIA for 10 years, and she says, "We were pretty aware of people, you know, who are shady or who were liars because, you know, being around the CIA, but we were totally fooled." Maybe I weren't that good in the CIA.
25:23 Speaker 04 Maybe.
25:25 Laci Mosley? If I asked somebody which mama was their mama and they said, "The good one",
25:29 Speaker 04 The good one.
25:30 Laci Mosley? And then I'd be like, "Okay, but who?"
25:31 Speaker 04 Who, who, who really?
25:34 Laci Mosley? No follow-up questions. You're like, "Checks out? Alright, who, who, we can stake."
25:39 Speaker 04 What's she look like?
25:40 Laci Mosley? No, which I want to stake? We've moved on. So, she said her husband once saw him write a note in Arabic and thought it looked authentic. So remember, he's from Colombia, and I will hope over this period of time, he's learned like a little bit of Farsi.
25:55 Speaker 04 I bet it wasn't Farsi at all. I bet it wasn't Arabic.
26:01 Laci Mosley? Don't say that.
26:01 Speaker 04 I don't trust her. She didn't even ask about the right mob. It was probably fake.
26:05 Laci Mosley? Right.
26:06 Speaker 04 It's probably wingdings.
26:08 Laci Mosley? Not webdings? He got rid of his squiggles. Did you see that picture of a donut that was going around? Um, some crazy right-wing people were posting this picture of a donut from Starbucks that had like squiggly icing on the side and they were like, "This is Farsi and they're telling us about Sharia law."
26:26 Laci Mosley? I was like on a donut from Starbucks.
26:28 Speaker 04 Only white people at Starbucks.
26:30 Laci Mosley? So she's like, look, I saw this donut once at Starbucks. I know that's Arabic, okay? So even agents with the diplomatic security service were impressed by one aspect of Anthony's ruse. While they were executing a search warrant of his condo, a boy who looked like he was maybe nine or 10 years old approached one of them and said, are you a DSS agent? He asked, and the agent was startled. Most people have never heard of the DSS. How do you know that? He demanded. And the boy said, oh, the prince that lives up there, he has DSS agents. So he hired people to pretend to be diplomatic security service people. And I'm just wondering, how much were they getting on the payroll? Is this like a backstage cast thing? You know, is this a Craigslist?
27:13 Speaker 04 Can I audition?
27:14 Laci Mosley? Can I audition to be a secret service member?
27:18 Laci Mosley? So the prince has supplied his personal bodyguards with bogus diplomatic security service badges that looked better than the real thing, is what the people in the agency said. So he had the drip.
27:27 Speaker 04 Okay.
27:28 Laci Mosley? They had earpieces that led to nowhere, that heard nobody. You put the earpiece on, it's nobody.
27:38 Laci Mosley? So, okay. All right, so people started getting suspicious because despite his elaborate efforts to maintain his image, he forgot a well-known Muslim rule, which any respectable Saudi prince would honor, which is pork is off limits. My man's got ousted by bacon.
27:54 Speaker 04 I, even I know that.
28:00 Speaker 04 If you got all this money, all these schemes, do you really need to still be eating bacon?
28:08 Laci Mosley? Listen, bacon is good, rich or poor.
28:11 Speaker 04 True, but, but.
28:14 Laci Mosley? You're right.
28:14 Speaker 04 For the bling.
28:15 Laci Mosley? You're right.
28:16 Speaker 04 Give up the bacon.
28:17 Laci Mosley? Yeah.
28:18 Speaker 04 Or at least don't eat it in front of people.
28:19 Laci Mosley? Right, or at least make a little like note to it, like my father would kill me and then nibble on it. You can't just be.
28:26 Speaker 04 Yeah.
28:26 Laci Mosley? He was like, let me get a grand slam.
28:30 Laci Mosley? Y'all got maple bacon? Yeah, fresh off the pig, thank you. And some sausage. Like, what are you doing, bruh? I hate that it was something as small as bacon, but I feel like when you're scamming, it always like the little thing.
28:40 Speaker 04 It's always something very tiny.
28:42 Laci Mosley? Yes. And so when Shaffer, who was the hotel magnate who owns the Fountain Blue, caught him eating bacon and other pork products, so he didn't stop with bacon. He hired private investigators to look into the alleged prince, which ultimately led to an FBI probe. The FBI probe did not settle well with the prince. Prince Khalid, Ben Al-Saud, was having a thunderous meltdown in the lobby of the St. Regis Hotel in Aspen, which that is a very nice hotel.
29:08 Speaker 04 Mm-hmm.
29:08 Laci Mosley? I love a St. Regis, honey. Ranting and raving about a crime being committed against him. The crime was disrespect.
29:16 Speaker 04 Hmm, I say that's St. Regis in Atlanta. Those were cute.
29:19 Laci Mosley? And that was nice, too. That's cute. I like the St. Regis in Atlanta. I've been there, it's a cute around.
29:23 Speaker 04 Yeah.
29:23 Laci Mosley? And I look like a prostitute, but... But be available.
29:30 Speaker 04 So he had a meltdown in Aspen?
29:33 Laci Mosley? Yes, which is very funny. So Prince Khalid...
29:36 Speaker 04 An apres ski.
29:37 Laci Mosley? Listen. I wish I could've been there. I wish I was in the lobby, you know, toasting my snow boots and I could've caught this because this is very funny. So he says, "You have assaulted my honor," the prince shrieked. "My father, the king, is going to be very upset. This is not how you do business with royalty."
29:55 Speaker 04 My father, the king.
29:57 Laci Mosley? The king.
29:57 Speaker 04 No name. The king.
30:01 Laci Mosley? Did he even look up names? Because my mans has said zero names.
30:04 Speaker 04 None, none.
30:06 Laci Mosley? My father, king, father.
30:11 Laci Mosley? Oh shit, he about to be pissed. Like, sir, you couldn't, you could've did a quick Google. We could've had at least one Google. He could've came up with one mom who was his mom, not the good one, not the king. This is getting a little lazy for me, but he did it for 30 years, so... Who am I to say what you need to know? So accompanied by his diamond bedecked chihuahua foxy, the prince was screaming at Shaffer's representatives, threatening to sue them for their intolerance. And he wasn't even a prince. He was a serial con artist, right? So the Colombian orphan adopted by a Michigan family had embarked on this for 30 years, like we talked about. After the meltdown, he upped it to a higher level.
30:51 Laci Mosley? So he could have stopped, but yet he persisted, which I appreciate perseverance. Do you think if you got this far, like you would stop? Would you be like, ah, never mind, I don't got six hundred million dollars, I see y'all.
31:01 Speaker 04 I mean, it's probably a rush, right? Like, you, you just gotta keep doing it.
31:05 Laci Mosley? Yeah, that's true.
31:05 Speaker 04 Because what's he supposed to do? Just go back to a normal life and not scam people?
31:09 Laci Mosley? He's like, alright, y'all right, my name's Anthony, I'm gonna pack up.
31:12 Speaker 04 Right.
31:12 Laci Mosley? God bless. Well, and he also scammed us pretty far. Like, this is the same region, this isn't even the Fountain Blue of Miami anymore. So now he's, he been flued out.
31:20 Speaker 04 Mm-hmm.
31:20 Laci Mosley? So I guess you gotta keep it up. So he has his investment banker approach, so he has an investment banker. Does his investment banker know how much money he has? Or is this another hired person from backstage?
31:30 Speaker 04 Probably, you know, he probably does have money.
31:32 Laci Mosley? You have to amass some amount of money, right?
31:34 Speaker 04 He had money.
31:35 Laci Mosley? And then maybe if he's selling off these items and doing these rentals, you're right, you're right. He done got a little coin. So his investment banker approaches one of Schoffer's associates, and Schoffer again is the hotel magnate, and says, this deal is gonna fall through. She warned him, so this is a woman.
31:49 Speaker 04 Hmm.
31:49 Laci Mosley? Okay, sis.
31:51 Speaker 04 She was like, I'm not about to get implicated.
31:55 Laci Mosley? She said, but no, but she's keeping up with the scam. She says, you have insulted the prince's honor. And here's how you need to get back into business with him.
32:03 Speaker 04 Okay, so she wasn't, she wasn't trying to give them a heads up?
32:05 Laci Mosley? No, she was in on the scam.
32:07 Speaker 04 She was in on the scam, okay.
32:09 Laci Mosley? I see you, sis. Um, she probably wanted to be an actress.
32:13 Speaker 04 Where's she at?
32:14 Laci Mosley? I know, we need to figure out who this woman is. I'm gonna have to look it up. So here's what you need to get back in graces with him, you need to give him a gift. So extracting gifts, like we talked about before, are part of the negotiation process. In the Middle East, it's a sign of respect. So Schoffer had already given him expensive artwork, along with a five thousand dollar diamond encrusted dog collar and other trinkets for his dog. Now his highness wanted something pricier. It has to be at least fifty thousand dollars, she said. I don't think he'll know it's fifty thousand dollars.
32:44 Speaker 04 Right? Just give him a gift.
32:47 Laci Mosley? Or just give fifty, you're just saying like, maybe also just give us fifty thousand dollars?
32:51 Speaker 04 Give us fifty thousand.
32:52 Laci Mosley? And also, how does that work? Like, I'm gonna give you six hundred million dollars, but you need to give me fifty thousand dollars.
32:57 Speaker 04 Right.
32:57 Laci Mosley? This sound like the Nigerian prince scam. This is like the escalated in-person Nigerian prince scam. Which they actually found like, a bunch of money in some apartment in Nigeria on Twitter. People were tweeting like, damn, that prince really was.
33:12 Laci Mosley? He really was trying to give us the money. Um, I love Nigeria. That's a great industry for scams there. Omo Nija. You guys know. So, the next day, Shaffer and his team presented a fifty thousand dollar Cartier bracelet to the prince. So this is after Shaffer, my mans has already been like, oh, I saw homie munching down on some pork chops. I have people investigating him. Now he gets mad, throws this fit, and you retract all your suspicions?
33:40 Speaker 04 Mm-hmm. And you call Cartier and say, get me something that is fifty thousand dollars.
33:44 Laci Mosley? That's probably was the phone call. He's like, hello, Cartier?
33:47 Speaker 04 What's fifty K? Okay, we'll take it.
33:51 Laci Mosley? Don't even look at it. Yeah, no, bring it to the hotel. Thank you so much. So he got him back in. He reeled him back into this scam. Yo, I gotta admire my mans Anthony, cuz his, this worked. Him getting angry worked. That, that makes sense. I like that. You gotta have some gumption, some audacity. So the next day, they give him this bracelet, right? Gift in hand, Anthony responds by enhancing his deception even further. So my mans could not stop here. You just got a fifty thousand dollar bracelet, bruh. He gets a phone call, or at least he pretends to get a phone call, and says some weird code like, Zulu Red Echo thirty-three.
34:28 Laci Mosley? So my mans, he's like, hold on, my phone ringing. Sir, there's no one, your phone not lighting up. No, no, no, it's ringing. This is Android. Um, hello? Zulu Echo Red.
34:38 Speaker 04 Don't drag people with the androids.
34:41 Laci Mosley? I'm always dragging an android. I'm sorry, you're fucking up our group chats, okay?
34:44 Speaker 04 They, we have a work group chat and it's
34:47 Laci Mosley? One person, right?
34:49 Speaker 04 One person with an android.
34:50 Laci Mosley? Always one. You think you're getting away with it.
34:52 Speaker 04 Yeah.
34:52 Laci Mosley? You start putting the names in, blue.
34:54 Speaker 04 The worst part of it is when you, when you react to texts, it always just says, spells out like, so and so laughed at, so and so emphasized.
35:04 Laci Mosley? It's so frustrating. And Apple is the one who's doing this because
35:07 Speaker 04 I know. They want us to have.
35:09 Laci Mosley? This is a gang. It's the gang mentality. They know they got us. Look, I stabbed the person to get in on the Apple gang. Who didn't? I shiv them good. That's what Steve Chops told me I had to do.
35:21 Laci Mosley? If I wanted them blue texts and I said anything, absolutely. Robbery.
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37:23 Laci Mosley? So he tells the whole table, that was the State Department and they are checking in on me. I have a computer chip in my neck, so they always know where I am. At which point his business partner, Carl Williamson, says, I have a chip in my neck as well. And then points to some random person in the restaurant and says, see that guy right there? He's the Secret Service. So I Googled like chips in the neck to see if chips in the neck are a thing. And there's like maybe 100,000 people who have like a digital chip like installed them. They do it in like dolphins and they do it in like other animals and farm livestock to keep track of them. But some people have like often to try to put a chip in their body and see like what that's about.
38:04 Speaker 04 I'm okay.
38:05 Laci Mosley? You don't want a chip?
38:06 Speaker 04 Nope.
38:07 Laci Mosley? That's the new thing?
38:08 Speaker 04 Nope.
38:08 Laci Mosley? Like we're going full Black Mirror.
38:09 Speaker 04 Yes, I don't want a chip. I don't want to be found at all times.
38:13 Laci Mosley? I don't know, I feel like that's real love. I feel like if I get married to somebody, we gotta get chip. Or they gotta get chipped at least.
38:21 Speaker 04 Not me.
38:22 Laci Mosley? If you always gonna be where you at, then I ain't gotta check on your chip. So what's good?
38:25 Speaker 04 Your iPhone might as well be a chip, right?
38:28 Laci Mosley? That's true, you can do find my iPhone, but then you also can turn that shit off or leave it somewhere. But you can't turn a chip off when you gonna rip that shit out your neck?
38:34 Speaker 04 That's true. Okay, I don't, I don't believe in it.
38:37 Laci Mosley? That's true love and commitment.
38:39 Speaker 04 I do not like the chip life.
38:40 Laci Mosley? Let me put a chip in you. If you're listening and you want to be my boo, let me put a chip.
38:46 Speaker 04 Let me get that chip.
38:48 Laci Mosley? I don't even like keeping tabs on people like that, but it would be fun to just see how far someone would go for my love. This is why I don't got no man. Or a woman. Anyway, so he's, they say they're both shit and then they point to some random ass dude in the restaurant and like, see him? He working for us. And it's like, how do you dispute that? Are they gonna walk up to that person and be like, are you Secret Service? They could just say no and be lying. Or this could be another backstage actor. I'm not exactly sure. Um, we need to put my mans in the guild though. He needs to be in the union because he's employing us. So eventually the software team contacted DC Page, a former federal agent who specializes in providing business intelligence. When Page emailed a friend who is a member of the Saudi royal family and asked if Anthony was really a prince,
39:30 Laci Mosley? he got a two-word response, "No" and then a capital "No!" exclamation point.
39:37 Laci Mosley? Why does it feel like they should have did that in the first place?
39:39 Speaker 04 Right. Why did they call after the first suspicion?
39:44 Laci Mosley? Like, we saw my mans chomping down.
39:46 Speaker 04 On the pork. Come on.
39:49 Laci Mosley? We saw my man eating the sausage links, the porks and the pork chops. That wasn't like, let's just call. That's one phone. I guess it's probably not easy to actually call the royal family. But there's also internet.
40:03 Speaker 04 Yeah.
40:04 Laci Mosley? We got a whole wi- world wide web. Yeah, so this, this seems silly to me. So Page also went on Google, duh, to research the diplomatic license plate on Anthony's Ferrari. He said, "I got a pop-up to buy the exact same license plate on eBay for $79", which is in fact exactly where Anthony bought this. Anthony went on eBay and was like, "Diplomatic plates",
40:31 Laci Mosley? and then put them shits on his car.
40:33 Speaker 04 That's great. I'm glad he never got put all by the police though.
40:36 Laci Mosley? Right.
40:37 Speaker 04 Because if they run those plates, what's gonna happen?
40:39 Laci Mosley? Exactly. And also I'm surprised he didn't get put off by the police because he is variously brown.
40:44 Speaker 04 Yes.
40:44 Laci Mosley? And driving a nice car, these feel like.
40:46 Speaker 04 Plenty of nice cars.
40:47 Laci Mosley? Maybe he wasn't driving the car. Maybe his backstage actors were.
40:51 Speaker 04 Hmm, yeah.
40:52 Laci Mosley? Because you know, if you're gonna have a good scam, you gotta get at least one white man involved, if you are a person of color, to be the face of the scam while you do the schemes in the background. Because we, they looking for us.
41:02 Speaker 04 Yeah.
41:03 Laci Mosley? Yeah, so you're right, like, that's a little too obvious. Also eBay, what the fuck? Like, if you're gonna sell diplomatic license plates, can you, like, vary them up? You selling the same exact plate with the same exact letters and numbers to everybody? That's not right. That's not, that's not how we scam. I don't like it. You gotta have some integrity. So, Aegis discovered.
41:22 Speaker 04 That's what he gets for doing the first search, right? Because obviously, he picked Google and just hit the first hit.
41:29 Laci Mosley? And you gotta go down the O's.
41:30 Speaker 04 Yeah.
41:31 Laci Mosley? You're right, you gotta go at least nineteen O's down when you're doing crime.
41:33 Speaker 04 Yeah.
41:34 Laci Mosley? Damn, it came up on the pop-up page.
41:37 Speaker 04 Right.
41:37 Laci Mosley? That's, that's lazy.
41:39 Speaker 04 Because nobody ever goes past the first page. They always do it, add a different word, right?
41:43 Laci Mosley? Exactly. And everyone does.
41:44 Speaker 04 You search, it's like, page two, I'm like, oh, let me type these words in.
41:48 Laci Mosley? I'm trying to think the last time I went page seven on a Google.
41:50 Speaker 04 Right?
41:50 Laci Mosley? Never. Never. Yeah, my man's, come on now, Anthony. Also, you've been in the industry for thirty years. These seem like rookie mistakes. So, Aegis discovered by this point, Anthony had allegedly bilked investors out of almost eight million dollars in fraudulent friends and family pre-offers. What I tell you about pre-reimbursement? I don't do reimbursement, I do pre- reimbursement. Give me the money upfront.
42:13 Laci Mosley? So, he getting these pre-offers of what promised to be the biggest IPO in history, the initial public offering of Aramaco, the Saudi oil giant. So, he's over here telling people that he is about to get the oil popping. And nothing makes an American rock harder.
42:28 Speaker 04 Than oil.
42:31 Speaker 04 Oil, the oil's popping.
42:32 Laci Mosley? Ugh.
42:33 Speaker 04 They love it.
42:33 Laci Mosley? Popping. I honestly think them Don commercials where they was rubbing that oil off them little birds. People are horny for those.
42:40 Speaker 04 Please.
42:42 Laci Mosley? I don't think they got the effect they wanted to. They were like, ooh. You know what I mean? Stop running those ads. Also, how y'all pull up on the birds at just the right time to get them all oiled up like that? I feel like they was putting oil on them birds and then washing it off with Don. Don, I'm trying to see something. Tweet me if you work for Don in advertising.
43:02 Speaker 04 The scam.
43:03 Laci Mosley? I think they put that oil on them birds.
43:05 Speaker 04 Yeah, if you write, if you work at Don, write in a letter, you will be anonymous.
43:09 Laci Mosley? Yes, you will be anonymous.
43:10 Speaker 04 Don't send it from your work email.
43:12 Laci Mosley? Do.
43:15 Laci Mosley? So agents discovered that Anthony was not only impersonating this diplomat, but also traveling on somebody else's passport.
43:23 Speaker 04 Hmm.
43:24 Laci Mosley? The confidence. I feel like you have to be a person of color to do this because they think we all look alike.
43:31 Speaker 04 Yeah.
43:31 Laci Mosley? But then, wait a minute.
43:32 Speaker 04 But also, whose passport? Because like, if you're traveling with him, wouldn't you notice that's not your name?
43:39 Laci Mosley? Right.
43:39 Speaker 04 Prince? And they'd be like, hella like saying your names at the airport, too.
43:44 Laci Mosley? They say it loud and proud. They put your government.
43:46 Speaker 04 Thank you, Ira.
43:50 Laci Mosley? But you know what?
43:50 Speaker 04 I'm like, okay, can I board this Delta flight?
43:52 Laci Mosley? Exactly. Like, y'all pressed. Come on now. Also, you just brought up a good point. They say your name at the airport. And who mostly works at TSA?
43:59 Speaker 04 Black people.
44:00 Laci Mosley? Exactly.
44:01 Speaker 04 Yeah.
44:01 Laci Mosley? So they would have been able to knew.
44:02 Speaker 04 Mm hmm. That wasn't him.
44:03 Laci Mosley? Hmm. But wait a minute. Maybe he was traveling. I just learned about the rich people airports.
44:07 Speaker 04 Private, yeah.
44:08 Laci Mosley? Mm hmm. That were a mile away and they don't do all that.
44:10 Speaker 04 Mm hmm.
44:11 Laci Mosley? That's probably where he was traveling. Because that's how the little rappers begin, all the codeine and weeds on the plane.
44:15 Speaker 04 Yeah.
44:16 Laci Mosley? Hmm. So maybe he could get away with traveling for somebody else's passport for this long. So they started tracking him on his far flung route from Dubai to Hong Kong to London, and arrested him when he landed in JFK Airport carrying a sizable amount of cash. Chauffeur was among 26 of the victims across the globe who Anthony stole millions of dollars. So he had millions. But you know what? He was keeping up a millionaire lifestyle, so that money is probably flowing out like water.
44:42 Speaker 04 Mm hmm.
44:43 Laci Mosley? Because if I got eight million, I'm gonna sit down.
44:45 Speaker 04 The money comes in, the money goes out.
44:47 Laci Mosley? You're right. I feel like I would just be Anthony at that point. But you know what? This life is pretty cushy. I get it, Anthony. If I was traveling like Kylie Jenner, like, it might be hard to quit.
44:55 Speaker 04 Mm hmm.
44:56 Laci Mosley? So he was sentenced to more than 18 years in prison, which pisses me off because all he did was rob rich people. And I'm like, Amber Geiger, who shot a black man in his own home, got 10 years in prison.
45:06 Speaker 04 Mm hmm.
45:06 Laci Mosley? But this, this guy gets 18.
45:08 Speaker 04 Right. Robbing rich people, they deserve it.
45:10 Laci Mosley? Which, and also, there's the people who have so much.
45:12 Speaker 04 That's Elizabeth Warren's plan, okay? He was the first wave.
45:20 Laci Mosley? Elizabeth Warren is gonna pull a lick on rich people.
45:23 Speaker 04 Okay, Anthony Moreno, okay? That's where she learned it from.
45:27 Laci Mosley? Okay, the box.
45:30 Laci Mosley? Elizabeth Warren. Thug life. Okay. So, a nineteen ninety-one article in the Los Angeles Times called him the prince of fraud. In nineteen ninety-one? He was called the prince of fraud. Mind you, he been out here fraudin' up until at least twenty seventeen.
45:49 Speaker 04 Mm-hmm.
45:51 Laci Mosley? How are you the prince of fraud in ninety-one? That would make him, that would twenty-six years.
45:57 Speaker 04 Did they have his real name in ninety-one?
46:00 Laci Mosley? Obviously, his government don't matter, cuz I done gave him three names.
46:04 Laci Mosley? He was like, that's fine, I'll get a new name. So, he was arrested at that time in ninety-one for flaking on ten thousand dollars in bills from a limousine company and from the Regent Beverly Wilshire Hotel. And that's, see-
46:18 Speaker 04 And they let him stay at another Regent?
46:22 Speaker 04 Also, stop staying at the Regent.
46:23 Laci Mosley? Y'all don't got that-
46:23 Speaker 04 Maybe he knows that it's easy to scam the Regent.
46:25 Laci Mosley? He must.
46:25 Speaker 04 And he thought they were classy.
46:26 Laci Mosley? Right. They must have lots of ins and outs and holes. I've worked in nice hotels, and it's not as nice on the back of the house as you think it is. Like, it's still a shit show, like every other business. Also, I'm like, y'all don't got a picture of my man's up? I feel like if he scammed out of ten thousand dollars, every-
46:40 Speaker 04 Every Regent.
46:41 Laci Mosley? And it should just be in the corner, like-
46:42 Speaker 04 Yes.
46:43 Laci Mosley? Y'all should age him up like a missing child.
46:47 Laci Mosley? This is what we think he look like now. We use the forensics.
46:49 Speaker 04 Don't let him in.
46:52 Laci Mosley? Like, I can't believe y'all let him get y'all in.
46:54 Speaker 04 He looks so young, too.
46:55 Laci Mosley? He does. He still looks very young. Look, I didn't know scamming could keep you so-
46:59 Speaker 04 Colombian scam.
47:00 Laci Mosley? You, oh, yep, exactly. Scamming could keep you so youthful, guys. Do a scam, you know? Keep that, that's my anti-aging, that's my moisturizer. Robbery.
47:08 Speaker 04 Yes.
47:09 Laci Mosley? Wrinkle-free. But so, the other thing that is always crazy to me about this is like, when I go to a hotel, they shake my ass down, they want a credit card.
47:16 Speaker 04 Mm-hmm. They want a credit card, they want, they want, especially if you're in another country and you foreign, like, what's the passport?
47:23 Laci Mosley? And they're not even, it's not just they want a credit card, they're gonna bill you, they're gonna go ahead and charge and hold you for at least three hundred dollars to make sure you got it.
47:31 Speaker 04 Yes.
47:32 Laci Mosley? That's how they treat the regular folks.
47:34 Speaker 04 Yes.
47:34 Laci Mosley? But you got a ten thousand dollar bill and no, they had no way of finding you.
47:38 Speaker 04 Yeah.
47:39 Laci Mosley? That's crazy. But this is what they do for rich people. Like, they think like, oh, they have it, so we're gonna give it to them. So, this was in ninety-one. In his latest scheme, a US district judge imposed a fairly heavy sentence, calling his crimes truly remarkable, which sounds to me like praise.
47:56 Speaker 04 Judge was impressed.
47:58 Laci Mosley? He was like, you know what, I am gonna have to send you to jail, but shout out to a king.
48:04 Laci Mosley? Which I love. Um, so he had a public defender representing him, which I'm like, bruh, you had eight million dollars and you don't have enough money to get you a real lawyer? You got the public defender with the stack of court cases and he don't know your name?
48:16 Speaker 04 Cause he knew he wouldn't get paid.
48:18 Laci Mosley? True. Damn. He had a sweaty lawyer and a cheap suit.
48:23 Speaker 04 I knew I wouldn't see my money.
48:26 Laci Mosley? Big facts, because the whole case is about how you don't pay nobody.
48:28 Speaker 04 Yes.
48:29 Laci Mosley? Yeah, I would just want my retainer up front. This is a high-profile case, I would've took this.
48:33 Speaker 04 The government froze it.
48:35 Laci Mosley? I would've conquered the shit out of this case.
48:40 Laci Mosley? Yo, I'm like, the dog collar don't fit? You must've quit.
48:43 Speaker 04 Right, I, I sure would've been like, now, you saw him eating the pork. Why didn't you do something then?
48:50 Laci Mosley? Right, I'd be like, you wanted to.
48:52 Speaker 04 You wanted to be scammed.
48:53 Laci Mosley? Y'all had a relationship, didn't you? I'd be making up all types of shit.
48:55 Speaker 04 Prince of fraud nineteen ninety-one, you don't know how to Google.
48:59 Laci Mosley? Exactly. Also, this is wild to me because just a public defend, like you couldn't get nobody, you got homie in a suit from Men's Warehouse defending you? When you stole millions of dollars from very, very rich, powerful people?
49:11 Speaker 04 They could've been like, it's someone doing pro bono though, you know?
49:14 Laci Mosley? I hope so.
49:15 Speaker 04 I don't know, like, wasn't Annalise Keaton doing public defender last season? I don't know.
49:19 Laci Mosley? If he would've got off, he had Annalise limping up into the courtroom. With that little heavy walk, okay? He would've got right on off, so.
49:27 Speaker 04 My client.
49:31 Speaker 04 My client didn't do that, Your Honor.
49:35 Speaker 04 You're trying to do my Violet.
49:37 Laci Mosley? I'm leaving.
49:38 Speaker 04 I'm standing here with you, Troy.
49:44 Laci Mosley? I'm leaving, I'm sorry. I'm packing up my things and I'm going. The podcast is over, it's canceled.
49:51 Laci Mosley? Violet, don't kill us, okay? I still, I wanna cross not with you, queen, don't, don't kill us. We love you.
49:59 Laci Mosley? So, and honestly, if Violet was, was, you know, doing the case, he could've murdered a couple people too.
50:03 Speaker 04 This is pressureless to my client. Your Honor.
50:09 Laci Mosley? My hands are on my face. So, the entire blame of this operation is on me and I accept that, said Anthony at his sentencing, insisting, "I am not a monster." I don't think you're a monster, Anthony.
50:25 Speaker 04 I, I agree.
50:26 Laci Mosley? I think that you were living the life that you deserve to live.
50:30 Speaker 04 We all deserve.
50:31 Laci Mosley? We all deserve.
50:32 Speaker 04 Yes.
50:32 Laci Mosley? And you were just bold enough to do so, so you know what?
50:35 Speaker 04 Free college, free diamond collars. For all.
50:39 Laci Mosley? That's Bernie's slogan, right?
50:40 Speaker 04 Yes, that's Bernie's.
50:42 Laci Mosley? If you want to be a bad bitch.
50:43 Speaker 04 You know, it's so hard to pick Bernie, Warren, right?
50:46 Laci Mosley? Closer together.
50:47 Speaker 04 They both learn from Anthony Moreno.
50:49 Laci Mosley? Exactly, which I love. Guys, Anthony,
50:54 Laci Mosley? I hope you can hear us in the clink. I hope.
50:57 Speaker 04 Right? If you could hear us in the clink, get back on the gram.
51:00 Laci Mosley? Get back on the gram, because your fans need you.
51:02 Speaker 04 We want to see the fits.
51:03 Laci Mosley? Give us a look, okay?
51:04 Speaker 04 You know he's scamming in the clink, too.
51:06 Laci Mosley? He has to be.
51:07 Speaker 04 Has to be scamming.
51:08 Laci Mosley? Yes, I'm sure he's in there still trying to flex his rich persona.
51:11 Speaker 04 Yes, wearing Gucci prints, yeah.
51:13 Laci Mosley? They're like, "Sir, you can't wear..."
51:16 Laci Mosley? It's just a prison uniform, Gucci all over it.
51:21 Laci Mosley? Man, y'all need to free my... When is Anthony's appeal day? When do we go to appellate court? Because I'm gonna be out in front with my sign, trying to free my man.
51:30 Speaker 04 Saying he did what he had to do.
51:31 Laci Mosley? To survive. Yes, survival meant a private jet and diamond accrusted car collars. It means something different to everybody. Shout out to a king. We love you, Anthony.
51:44 Laci Mosley? And in the honor of hotel scams, I'm gonna give y'all one more listener letter, because our, our hoodwink was a little short. And I know y'all be mad if these are under an hour.
51:54 Laci Mosley? They be mad at me. Y'all, this is free. They be emailing me and writing me and DMing me.
51:59 Speaker 04 Really do.
52:00 Laci Mosley? Yeah, I feel like I'm starting to be a slave. I started this in my own volition.
52:04 Speaker 04 I hate slavery.
52:05 Laci Mosley? I hate slavery. That is my favorite gift. I use it all the time.
52:13 Laci Mosley? It's a right, you're a coin. So disclaimer, I still work for this company, just in a different capacity. Okay, so they also have asked that we use the name Clyde. Okay, so they said, hi, hi Lacey, here's the scam. I'm skipping the nice stuff Clyde, but thank you. I used to work in a hotel in the front desk as a supervisor. One of the front desk incentives was for every guest, we would like enroll in the royalty program. We would receive 50 loyalty points to our account. So if they could get somebody in the loyalty program, they got to kick back.
52:49 Speaker 04 I know where this is going.
52:53 Laci Mosley? All right, true scammer. The catch was it had to be a valid enrollment, a new enrollment, including a street address, an email, and it had to be consented by the guest. This is important because I broke all these rules. All right Clyde. So I started off by just enrolling people with no email address. My manager found out and said my enrollments were flagged for the next month and to be careful. This made me nervous, so I started enrolling them with a letter or an added number in the email, so they didn't know they were being enrolled. So when your manager said, be careful, you didn't take that as quit. You was like, like our mans earlier, Anthony, you were like, what exactly did I do wrong? Okay, okay, emails, okay, I'll add that.
53:35 Laci Mosley? Then I started enrolling guests and changing one or two numbers of their address. So like 7737 Main became 7733 Main Street. Okay, I got caught by a guest, but I denied it. I then realized that if I asked the guest and they said no, but I found an old account for them, they would accept the enrollment. So if these people said no, you would just go dig into their business and find an old account? Sir, so he said, I started telling people, oh, it looks like you had an account previously, but it expired. I'll just reactivate it with this reservation. So he would just do this every time and just make a new account and double time these people. So he said he averaged an extra $150 a month for three years.
54:16 Laci Mosley? And he had enough points to go on a two-week-long vacation to the beach with his family in a resort where the average day was $300 a night for free.
54:26 Speaker 04 Now, they didn't have to pay for these.
54:28 Laci Mosley? So this is the part, he was the number one royalty.
54:31 Speaker 04 Right, they didn't have to pay for these.
54:33 Laci Mosley? This is true. Who got hurt here?
54:35 Speaker 04 Nobody.
54:36 Laci Mosley? Nobody?
54:37 Speaker 04 Nobody.
54:38 Laci Mosley? Yeah, I mean, honestly.
54:39 Speaker 04 Maybe the person who he was competing against was number two. They probably pissed.
54:43 Laci Mosley? Imagine some honest, hardworking person.
54:46 Speaker 04 Right, they're number two. They're mad.
54:47 Laci Mosley? Really slanging these enrollments.
54:49 Speaker 04 Life ain't fair.
54:50 Laci Mosley? Life is not fair. And if you want to get ahead, charge $12 for the drink.
54:54 Speaker 04 Right.
54:55 Laci Mosley? So, you know what?
54:56 Speaker 04 They made it a game, so of course people were gonna play it.
55:00 Laci Mosley? Exactly.
55:00 Speaker 04 Your honor.
55:03 Speaker 04 My client was just playing the game.
55:06 Laci Mosley? Annalise comes back to defend herself. She limps in. It's the slowest walk down the courtroom aisle you've ever seen. Oh, Viola's walk is just like, the ti- like.
55:16 Speaker 04 Truly.
55:17 Laci Mosley? Truly like.
55:18 Speaker 04 I want to talk about the day that she decided to give her character that lip, right? Like, she was on set like, I think Annalise was.
55:26 Laci Mosley? This is an acting choice. Look, I'll just say that no one has ever personified the tiredness of the black woman in society.
55:35 Speaker 04 Than Annalise Keating.
55:36 Laci Mosley? Annalise Keating's walk. She's so tired.
55:41 Laci Mosley? Oh, I love it. Well, I wanted to mention that one just because we're talking about hotels. And I think that people think like hotels are organized and like you're staying at this place. No, it's a shit show back there.
55:51 Speaker 04 They never are. How many times do I ask for early check-in at the Standard? And they're always like, oh, well, you know, it's not guaranteed, but you can ask. I'm like, shut up.
56:00 Laci Mosley? You can always get it. Early check-in, late checkout. I've also learned if you call for late checkout and they're like, I'm sorry, we can't offer it today. Just stay in your room.
56:11 Laci Mosley? What they gonna do?
56:11 Speaker 04 Right.
56:12 Laci Mosley? Who gonna check me, boo?
56:13 Speaker 04 Right.
56:13 Laci Mosley? I'm gonna stay here. You know what the lady gonna do? She gonna go, hello?
56:17 Speaker 04 Yeah.
56:17 Laci Mosley? And you gonna go, no.
56:18 Speaker 04 Yeah. Yeah, right. Come there to clean. I'm like, oh, it's okay. No.
56:23 Laci Mosley? Exactly.
56:24 Speaker 04 Late checkout. Bye.
56:25 Laci Mosley? Yeah, you just say late checkout to the cleaning people because that's literally all it is, is like they're trying to get the room turned over so they can get somebody else in. But if you need to late checkout and so does everybody else, guess what? Just stay there.
56:36 Speaker 04 Yeah.
56:37 Laci Mosley? What they gonna do? Some people like, I guess, maybe charge a fee, but I haven't even seen that. I've never been charged a fee if someone said there was no more late checkout and I just stayed in my room.
56:46 Laci Mosley? Try it.
56:48 Laci Mosley? So guys, it's time for the last segment of the show and then I have to let Ira go. It's so sad. This has been wonderful. Um, this is our first time meeting is in this studio.
56:57 Speaker 04 I know.
56:57 Laci Mosley? And I feel like I like know you. This is like, you're so cool.
57:00 Speaker 04 We're here.
57:00 Laci Mosley? Good vibes. So scammer of the week.
57:03 Speaker 04 Hmm.
57:04 Laci Mosley? Is Payless.
57:05 Speaker 04 Hmm.
57:06 Laci Mosley? I just want to shout out to Payless.
57:07 Speaker 04 They still around.
57:08 Laci Mosley? Tell, I guess. This is their attempt to come back into relevancy and I stand.
57:13 Speaker 04 BOGO.
57:16 Laci Mosley? More like bogus, but you know what? I love it. Payless is a brand known for budget friendly shoes. That is a nice way to put it.
57:24 Speaker 04 Yes, that is a very nice way.
57:27 Laci Mosley? It was Payless shoes have no grip. You will fall and bust your lip. Did you ever hear that as a kid?
57:33 Speaker 04 I did not, but I sure know that we did not want to be caught with no Payless shoes.
57:38 Laci Mosley? No, why pay more?
57:39 Speaker 04 Yes.
57:40 Laci Mosley? When you can pay less?
57:43 Speaker 04 Dress shoes though. You always got the dress shoes.
57:45 Laci Mosley? Oh yeah. I mean, come on Easter Sunday.
57:47 Speaker 04 Mm hmm.
57:47 Laci Mosley? Popping. Okay. So they're known for their-
57:51 Speaker 04 They're so disorganized, by the way. I went in one like three, few years ago. Yes. Yes, when I was living on the east side when I was broke. Um, I was just tried to go up in one. I was like, y'all don't even have my size. They're disorganized. There's nobody working in the store.
58:02 Laci Mosley? Oh, the shoes sell themselves.
58:07 Laci Mosley? Honestly, I don't know if I've ever had anybody, when I've gone into a Payless, the times that I can remember, I don't think anybody ever helped.
58:13 Speaker 04 No, they're just like, go ahead.
58:15 Laci Mosley? You know what a, you know what a Payless is? It's like the back stockroom of any other store. But they were like, let's just put this shit in the front. Fuck it. Cause it's just tall shelves of boxes of shoes. And I remember climbing. They had the ladders in there, but they put a mirror on it to be like, oh, this is so you can look at your foot. But really it's so you could calm your bitch ass up and get the shoes yourself. It's so trifling. So, the Payless store in Los Angeles in a mall invited influencers to their grand opening. The store was stocked with Payless shoes in disguise.
58:50 Speaker 04 Oh, I remember this scam.
58:52 Laci Mosley? Yes. The girls were mad on Twitter.
58:54 Speaker 04 They were, they're very mad.
58:55 Laci Mosley? Upset. So, one of the influencers said, "I would pay $400 or $500 for these shoes." And she's holding up a pair of 1999 sneakers. Another shopper calls the Payless store elegant and sophisticated, because, mind you, they didn't call the store Payless. They called it "Pelezi," which nobody thought that sounded a lot like Payless.
59:18 Speaker 04 Right. Also, like, Payless shoes still look like Payless shoes. I'm sorry. Like, I'm sure they look fine, but I'm like, I would look at it and be like this.
59:26 Laci Mosley? No, that leather, it's dull. It's very dull, or it's too shiny. It's one or the other. Um, it's definitely, I've never seen a Payless shoe and been like, that, I'm shocked. Yeah. And I feel like I could see them out in the wild.
59:41 Speaker 04 Right.
59:42 Laci Mosley? This is fascinating to me.
59:43 Speaker 04 Didn't Google the brand? I don't know. Every time I see a brand I don't know in the store, I'm like, "Oh, what's this?"
59:49 Laci Mosley? I'm like, "Who is in this?"
59:50 Speaker 04 Who rocks it?
59:51 Laci Mosley? Who's in the drip? Exactly.
59:52 Speaker 04 Right. You need to see who, who wears that kind of brand, because like, you don't want to be like, wearing something and then you're like, "I don't know."
59:58 Laci Mosley? Right. Well, one, I need to know if the Nazis are in it.
1:00:00 Speaker 04 Right. Need to know if the Nazis.
1:00:02 Laci Mosley? Step one, is David Duke in this drip?
1:00:04 Speaker 04 Right. Need to know if, like, Lena Dunham is a brand ambassador. You just gotta know. You gotta protect it.
1:00:10 Laci Mosley? You do need to protect yourself. So, I guess nobody, but you know what? When someone offers you a coin and is like, show up to this event, especially when you're an influencer, your whole hustle is just getting coins off your followers.
1:00:21 Speaker 04 Of course.
1:00:21 Laci Mosley? So, I feel like influencers aren't really caring about what the product is. Because, I mean, look at Flat Tummy Tea. Like, that's shit soup. It literally is a drink that makes you poop. But listen, if they offer $50,000, I'm, I'm be sipping on it on my Instagram.
1:00:38 Speaker 04 Listen, you already had Jamila on your podcast. She see you, she see you sell Flat Tummy Tea. It's over. It's over. She know how to find you. She know how to find you. It's over.
1:00:51 Laci Mosley? Although I would love being dragged.
1:00:52 Speaker 04 She'll tell Earwolf, "Cancel that podcast."
1:00:54 Laci Mosley? I show up, all my things are gone. I show up, all my shit is in a box in the corner.
1:00:59 Speaker 04 Cut the podcast. Da-da.
1:01:04 Laci Mosley? They literally cut the cord to my microphone as I'm talking. Somebody just comes in here, start cutting this shit. Jamila said, "We gotta cancel your ass."
1:01:10 Speaker 04 Yeah, we selling no flat tummy tea.
1:01:13 Laci Mosley? You know, I love to curl up with a good book and a hot cup of flat tummy tea.
1:01:18 Speaker 04 Your honor, my client was selling fraudulent tea.
1:01:21 Laci Mosley? I'm hiring you to be my Annalise Keating in the court of public opinion, okay? You better show up and you better limp, Ira. This is what I paid for. You better have just had a sip to pop off.
1:01:31 Speaker 04 I've been waiting all my life to limp into a courtroom.
1:01:35 Laci Mosley? You better be freshly drunk off vodka.
1:01:37 Speaker 04 Yes. Always on the verge of being disbarred.
1:01:43 Laci Mosley? That's how I like my lawyers, okay? You have a little sex in the chambers with your sexy black cop man and then come in drunk. Um, God, oh, I remember those scenes. Remember Viola Davis was having sex with that man on TV? I had to watch my aunt. Oh, he's very fine, in person too. I had to watch my auntie get her box ate. That was, that was challenging, but I appreciated it, Viola. So, back to these influencers. So, a shopper gasped in disbelief, oh, sorry. A shopper gasped in disbelief when the secret was revealed. "Shut up, are you serious?" she says. About 80 influencers who attended this over two nights were in complete shocked, shocked, shocked, when they realized that these were Payless shoes.
1:02:28 Laci Mosley? Mind you, this is after they've shelled out about $3,000 in purchases. So, they invited these influencers, paid them to show up, and then the influencers bought the Paylessy shoes.
1:02:41 Laci Mosley? First of all, if I show up and I'm being paid to be there, I'm not gonna buy nothing.
1:02:45 Speaker 04 Where's, where's the free merch?
1:02:46 Laci Mosley? Yeah, you get the free merch. I'm gonna put the shoe on my foot and for a photo, I have now paid for the shoe. I don't know what this is. So, one shopper spent $640 on a pair of boots, which represented a 1,800% markup from the cost of the actual shoe.
1:03:04 Speaker 04 Yeah, you're not inviting me to something that have me pay.
1:03:07 Laci Mosley? $640.
1:03:10 Laci Mosley? So here's the thing, I I know that there's some shit that like they put a brand on it and now it's more expensive, but it's made in the same factory as cheap shit. But I can tell a cheap shoe from an expensive shoe.
1:03:20 Speaker 04 Mm hmm.
1:03:21 Laci Mosley? To a certain degree, like I feel like when you get into the like mid level, yeah, like a Yeezy is cheaper than a Balenciaga, but if you're looking at them, they're both made pretty well.
1:03:31 Speaker 04 Mm hmm.
1:03:32 Laci Mosley? Where, but I feel like a boot, like, come on, sis. So Payless returned their money and let them keep the shoe. So it was like a little trick, so they made them pay for it and then was like, ha ha, look, see, our shit is nice. And then gave them their money back, which is nice. I would have kept the money, Payless, how well are y'all doing?
1:03:49 Speaker 04 Right.
1:03:49 Laci Mosley? I feel like y'all need that money.
1:03:50 Speaker 04 Keep the money. But also was this ad, I guess the advertisers that like, oh, our shoes look so good, you think their designer, right?
1:03:58 Laci Mosley? Yeah, that's the whole point.
1:03:59 Speaker 04 This the thing is this just like, you just scam some people.
1:04:02 Laci Mosley? Yeah.
1:04:02 Speaker 04 And then I'd be like, okay, why don't y'all open Plezi?
1:04:06 Laci Mosley? Maybe you should, yeah.
1:04:07 Speaker 04 Open Plezi, yeah.
1:04:09 Laci Mosley? Stop doing Payless and do Plezi, because I think we like Plezi better.
1:04:12 Speaker 04 Yeah.
1:04:12 Laci Mosley? I think you're right, I think that's the moral of the story, but Payless was like, no, no, no, no, we gonna take this Plezi sign down and put back up the Payless sign.
1:04:19 Speaker 04 Right.
1:04:20 Laci Mosley? So the campaign plays off the ignorance discrepancy and it aimed to remind consumers that there's still a relevant place to shop for affordable fashion.
1:04:29 Speaker 04 Just pay influencers to wear Payless on Instagram.
1:04:33 Laci Mosley? That would have been simpler.
1:04:34 Speaker 04 Right.
1:04:35 Laci Mosley? And that would have been better.
1:04:37 Speaker 04 Fly shoes and that like on someone's Instagram, you know, get like, get like a little, get like a little Tyler Oakley in like some shoes, you know?
1:04:46 Laci Mosley? Get your girl Billie Eilish in a Payless drip.
1:04:49 Speaker 04 Get Gigi, you know, get something in there.
1:04:52 Laci Mosley? I do it in Payless.
1:04:53 Speaker 04 Like something that looks real cute and it's like, oh, this is for Payless.
1:04:56 Laci Mosley? Right, get the Kardashians in Payless.
1:04:58 Speaker 04 Get it.
1:04:59 Laci Mosley? And the girls will comp, yes. Also, I mean, the Kardashians literally brought Fendi back to life. They gave Fendi CPR on the table and now people are wearing the Fs again.
1:05:07 Speaker 04 Yeah, Fendi prints on.
1:05:10 Laci Mosley? And Nikki, I want, I want her collection, the capsule.
1:05:13 Speaker 04 Yeah.
1:05:14 Laci Mosley? It's really cute, it's a little ratchet too, I was like, yes. She was like, I want something I could wear in a hood and I could also wear it to a nice event. And then I saw it and I was like, okay, I could definitely wear it in.
1:05:23 Speaker 04 Yes.
1:05:25 Laci Mosley? I love it.
1:05:25 Speaker 04 To an Emmy's party.
1:05:30 Laci Mosley? I don't know if I can wear the give much capsule fended to an Emmy's party.
1:05:33 Speaker 04 All right.
1:05:34 Laci Mosley? I certainly would try.
1:05:35 Speaker 04 Wear that plastic dress.
1:05:38 Laci Mosley? Guys, y'all love scrolling my Instagram for old favorite. Find the plastic dress.
1:05:43 Speaker 04 Find, find the plastic dress. I want to see the plastic dress.
1:05:48 Laci Mosley? It's on there, along with that scam magazine article that y'all found. I told them I did Voyage L.A. Have you heard of that?
1:05:52 Speaker 04 No.
1:05:53 Laci Mosley? Oh, it's a scam magazine where you, uh, they scam you into giving them the information of you and ten friends to say they're gonna write an article about you online, but you write the article yourself. And then they post it online and you act like you was in a magazine, but you was never in a magazine.
1:06:05 Speaker 04 Oh, my God.
1:06:06 Laci Mosley? And I posted this on my Instagram years ago, and then people found it. They found it, and they were like, damn, sis, it's still up. I was like, I live in my scams. I live in my truth. I'm proud of my scams. So y'all find that plastic dress, and there's a picture of me holding some Emmys from some white men's that I took. So.
1:06:19 Speaker 04 Okay.
1:06:20 Laci Mosley? So enjoy.
1:06:21 Speaker 04 Hold them Game of Thrones Emmys.
1:06:23 Laci Mosley? I'm gonna get my own one day. So, guys, that brings us to the end of the podcast. And Ira, where do you want to be found? That's what I ask people.
1:06:32 Speaker 04 In conclusion, you can find me in the courtroom.
1:06:36 Speaker 04 Defending justice. Uh, you can find me on Twitter, at Ira Scammed That Three Letter Name.
1:06:44 Laci Mosley? That is a fantastic Twitter name, and your Twitter's so good. It's so entertaining.
1:06:48 Speaker 04 Thank you. I, I tried to be more entertaining for the girls. You know, for a minute, it was like, it was 2016, it was very serious.
1:06:54 Laci Mosley? Oh, yeah.
1:06:54 Speaker 04 Still gotta talk about politics sometimes, because the streets are wild. But, you know, just like, I just try and tweet stuff that's funny to me now and like, wild. Because I don't need the girls like in my mentions being like, actually.
1:07:07 Laci Mosley? Yeah, I'm so tired of the plaid guys.
1:07:08 Speaker 04 I'm like, I don't, I don't want fights anymore.
1:07:10 Laci Mosley? Exactly.
1:07:10 Speaker 04 Okay.
1:07:11 Laci Mosley? Also, you're not Pammy. You're fighting with Abby with no photo.
1:07:13 Speaker 04 If I tweet something that you can earnestly reply to like that, I'm, I'm doing my job wrong. Enough.
1:07:18 Laci Mosley? Right. Like, but we can have a, we can talk for fun, but yeah, I don't want to, please don't come over here with your nonsense. But what, you were talking about the circle on Twitter recently.
1:07:26 Speaker 04 Yes.
1:07:28 Speaker 04 I love the circle.
1:07:28 Laci Mosley? I finished the circle, so I won't give you any spoilers.
1:07:30 Speaker 04 Yes.
1:07:31 Laci Mosley? But guys, if you want something to watch that literally is just like little lab rats in a cage, and it's pointless, and your mind will just be free of impending doom.
1:07:42 Speaker 04 You've got to watch the circle.
1:07:43 Laci Mosley? Watch the circle.
1:07:44 Speaker 04 Got to get up in that.
1:07:45 Laci Mosley? And there's some scammers on the circle, and that's why I like the circle, too.
1:07:47 Speaker 04 Yes, yes.
1:07:49 Laci Mosley? Yes. Well, guys, as always, you can find us at [email protected] . Please email us your cons and your frauds. If you haven't heard your con or fraud on the show, it's still gonna happen, guys. I promise you, that is not a scam. You can find me at D I V A L A C I, Diva Lacy, on all platforms, and scamgoddesspod on Instagram and Twitter. Congregation. Stay scheming.
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