SC EP:1284 Sara Brown - Browns Property

Sara joins the show to give us an update on what is going on the Browns property including encountering a small creature on her roof. She wasn't the only one to see it, her neighbor reported seeing the same creature on her roof. Sara Brown grew up in the suburbs of Olympia and had never given Sasquatch a second thought until she moved to the Chehalis Indian Reservation in 2012. What began as her husband Jonathan's family stories about footprints outside his great-grandfather's smokehouse became more than a decade of firsthand documentation audio recordings of speech, whistles, and vocalizations; a two-minute thermal video; a 16.5-inch track cast now held by Cliff Barackman at the North American Bigfoot Center; and a daylight photograph she didn't discover until nearly a year after taking it. Check out Sara's YouTube channel: Salish Sasquatch https://www.youtube.com/@salishsasquatch

• 0:00Speaker 00

  And, and I felt something. I didn't know what it was. I look up and there he was.

• 0:28Speaker 00

  That was, uh,

• 0:31Speaker 00

  sorry about this. At the time, I still thought it was a, uh, person in a, maybe a costume or something. But he was big. He was huge. Um, he stood there. He just stood there stared. I stared at him. We looked at each other.

• 0:50Speaker 00

  Trying to see his, uh,

• 0:54Speaker 00

  his face, which I could see. Um, it didn't look like a gorilla because I understood Bigfoot look like gorilla. Didn't look like that. It looked, it almost looked human. It had a smudge of nose. It had the big eyes, deep brow. I didn't, the, the, the head shape was more rounded. It didn't look like a gorilla head shape to me at all. Um, his eyes were very piercing. Um, it looked, they look wild. They look wild like, um, if I come down, I can just rip you apart in a heartbeat.

• 1:33Speaker 01

  It looked like somebody was bent over and had their head in the window of the deer blind and it either heard me or smelt me and he pulled his head out of the tent and stood straight up and that, that shocked me.

• 1:54Speaker 01

  They don't make people that, that big.

• 2:01Speaker 02

  The way it moved, uh, almost as if it was gliding across the beach.

• 2:08Speaker 02

  I've never seen anything move like that in my life.

• 2:14Speaker 02

  They were screaming at each other in gibberish.

• 2:19Speaker 02

  It sounded like a language and they were chuntering away, back and forwards, back and forwards, back and forwards.

• 2:26Speaker 02

  I know what a bear looks like and there is no way on this planet that what I saw bears.

• 2:41Speaker 03

  911, what are you reporting? Jesus Christ, you better. Sir? See him? Hello? Get somebody out here. What's going on now, sir? That son of a bitch is about six foot nine. I don't know. Do you see him now, sir? Yes, I'm looking right at him. Uh-oh.

• 3:00Speaker 04

  This is Colonel Nathan R. Jessup, commanding officer, Marine Ground Forces, Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. And you are listening to Sasquatch Chronicles.

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  Boom.

• 3:36Speaker 05

  Welcome to the show, everyone. Thanks for being here tonight. That clip there in the beginning is from Sahila Sasquatch. And that is the Browns YouTube channel. And we'll talk a little bit about that later. But tonight I want to welcome back to the show, uh, Sarah Brown. Uh, you guys always hear me talk about the Browns property and I was chatting with, uh, Jonathan the other day and he said, you know, you should have Sarah back on. There's been a lot that's happened on this property since you've been here. So Sarah is coming back to give us a, uh, breakdown on what has happened on the Browns property. And also be playing a little bit more of that clip you heard there in the beginning.

• 4:20Speaker 05

  If you've had an encounter and you'd like to be on the show, shoot me an email. My email address is [email protected]. And if you get a chance, check out sasquatchchronicles.com. You can become a member and get additional shows. Let's jump into it tonight. I want to welcome back to the show, Sarah Brown. Uh, Sarah, thanks so much for coming on.

• 4:46Speaker 06

  Thank you for having me on again.

• 4:49Speaker 05

  And I know you have a YouTube channel called Sahila Sasquatch. I'll include a link. Uh, Sarah goes out and interviews people back to their location. And they kind of recount what happened and we'll play a little bit more of that clip you heard in the beginning. And I know there's activity on your property. I've experienced it. You've experienced it. Uh, you even had a, uh, picture of one and I know where that was taken. I was shocked when I saw it. But if you would, would you kind of tell us about some of the new activity that's been going on on the property?

• 5:23Speaker 06

  Okay, well, uh, so I think I was on your show in like 2012 or 2013. So I mean, tons has happened since then. That photo that you're speaking of, that photo actually was taken a day after you were here. And there were all these questions I had over the years since that photo, you know, there's, there seems to be some discoloration on the creature's head. And I always wondered if, since the photo was taken around noon, I wondered if that was sun glints on his head or if it was a different color. And I saw that, I believe it's the same one in 2024.

• 6:02Speaker 06

  I saw him down in, across the field by the walnut grove and he was two very distinct colors. I sent you a text after I, after I saw that one, but he was two very distinct colors, like an orangutan reddish color. And then, uh, a lighter reddish color that was more bronze and, uh, there is two toned as you can get, very distinct two colors. So that happened. I think it, I think that it was again, the same one that we've seen a few times over the last decade.

• 6:36Speaker 05

  What were you doing, Sarah? And how far away from you was he?

• 6:41Speaker 06

  It was quite a ways away. It was about 600 feet away. But it stepped out of the tree line and the sun was, it was about six o'clock at night and the sun was fully shining on it. So I knew exactly what I was looking at and it was massive. John went over there and stood in the same spot and I could, I could barely see the top of Jonathan's head. And I saw from its waist up, more of the right side of its body. I saw his full arm and his full head. And it was very brief. It was just for a few seconds.

• 7:13Speaker 05

  Yeah, I'd always kind of wondered if you'd ever seen that creature again. Going back to that picture and I'll see if I can't find it and post it under this blog. I've posted it many times. But I know where that picture was taken and that's very close to the house, isn't it?

• 7:30Speaker 06

  About 125 feet away from where I was standing.

• 7:34Speaker 05

  Yeah, I remember when you very first sent it to me. I was like, I think I know where that's at on the property. I think I've been over that way. And where it was actually standing in front of the bushes, because in the picture, all you see is from about the mouth up. If I stood behind those bushes, you would never see me. My head wouldn't even reach to the top of those bushes.

• 7:56Speaker 06

  No, I had to stand on a chair. And he seemed to be about seven and a half feet tall, which is roughly what the creature in the thermal video that Jonathan and his brother got is, it's about the same height. And then I had some other weird stuff happen. I had, I had one encounter in, I think it was 2023 or 2024. I would have to look at my notes. And this is actually my most favorite encounter I've had with them, just because it was so weird and it didn't involve a sighting. But, um, it involved, uh, possibly infrasound or something else that they do to stun, to stun prey.

• 8:39Speaker 06

  Uh, some people call it zapped. I don't know, but, um, Jonathan and I were sitting back in the woods behind our house. And we were sitting around the fire. And we could hear something to the right and something to the left creeping and making sounds, you know, taps, stick breaks, things like that. And every time we'd stop talking, it would stop. And then we would start talking and it would move again. And this went on for over a half hour. And finally I was just done, ready to go inside and it was pitch blackout. And Jonathan illuminates the, um, path for me to go back to, towards the house. He's about five to 10 feet behind me.

• 9:25Speaker 06

  And when I'm three feet away, or I'm sorry, when I'm about six feet away from the tree line, I was paralyzed mid-step. And it was like an electrical feeling that just went through my body. And I could talk, but I couldn't move. Like my arm was up mid-step, my, my legs were mid-step. And then we could hear it from six feet away from these two oaks that we have. We could hear it run off through the yard. And it was incredible how heavy footed this thing was. It took about six steps, triggered my chicken coop light and cleared the backyard. And since you've been here, I've planted a food forest back there. Like there's all sorts of

• 10:10Speaker 06

  fruit trees, medicinal plants and stuff like that. And the way that this thing navigated through there showed me that they can see clearly at night. Because you would have been running into everything and he just cleared it so fast. And then once he cleared it with those six steps, I was able to move again. But that was, that was really an incredible experience I had. I'll never forget that. I wish that it would happen again.

• 10:38Speaker 05

  Let me ask you, Sarah, what do you make of that electrical feeling that you had almost like you were stunned? I mean, what do you make of that?

• 10:48Speaker 06

  I can't explain it. I wish I could explain it. You know, I wish I I've read about infrasound, you know, because other creatures can do that. And that's a possibility. But um, what do you compare it to? You know, it's not like it's not like these other creatures that can use infrasound. It's not like they do it to humans. So we don't have, we don't have a comparison, but it was very odd. And it was, the other thing is, it was directed at me. It didn't do anything to Jonathan. It was just me.

• 11:23Speaker 05

  When you were hit with that feeling, how far away was Jonathan from you?

• 11:28Speaker 06

  I think he was about, I would say, five to 10 feet behind me. He was a ways back. Because he was still gonna stay outside. He was just lighting up the pathway for me because it was so dark out. Years ago, we had had on our back porch, motion lights. So if anything, we'd go back there, it would pop on. And when that, when that light bulb had gone out, we realized quickly that they were coming in the backyard. And so I never replaced that light. Because you know, I want them to come back there. I want, I want to have these experiences until something goes south. But ever since then, I've kept that back light off. So it's pitch black in our backyard. If there's not a good, if there's not good moonlight.

• 12:13Speaker 05

  Yeah, makes me wonder about the, you know, the infrasound. You would think that Jonathan, being so close to you, he would have been affected by it as well. Makes you wonder what it was.

• 12:26Speaker 06

  Do you want me to get into like, what I, what I, you know how a lot of people think that they're Nephilim? Do you want me to get into my study about that?

• 12:34Speaker 05

  Sure.

• 12:36Speaker 06

  Okay, so I think it was like 2015, where we took a break. One, because the Bigfoot community can, you know, be, be a certain way. But also, we weren't sure what they were.

• 12:50Speaker 06

  I didn't want to mess with something that was, you know, possibly something that you don't want to be messing with. I did a really deep study on that. I took, I just took a Bible and then a Strong's Concordance. And a Strong's Concordance is, it shows you the etymology, you know, of words and things from the Greek and also the Hebrew. And so I looked into that, and it said, "The Nephilim are the sons of Anak." And Anak means neck. And so right then, I was like, okay, one thing that people say about Sasquatch is they don't have a neck, that they lack a neck, you know, the head just kind of blends into the shoulders. And

• 13:33Speaker 06

  it also said that the Nephilim wore pendants, and that they were violent tyrants. And it also compares them to, compared the people in comparison to the Nephilim to grasshoppers. It said that the people were like grasshoppers. And I was like, okay, you wouldn't say that about a Sasquatch. You would say a Sasquatch is twice the size of a human, you know, two or three times the size of a man. And so I kind of ruled that out in my mind. And I know a lot of people still hang on to that. But I don't think that's the case. I think that it's some sort of, you know, primitive human or something. I don't know. I don't know if that's interesting to you, but I just kind of found that interesting.

• 14:19Speaker 05

  Yeah, I find that stuff very interesting. I spent probably a couple of years looking into the Nephilim. And to really understand the Nephilim, you almost have to go outside of the Bible. And I knew that a neck meant long neck, or I think it even translates as tall. But what you'll find when you really research the Nephilim is, they were more like gods and kings than some wild animal out there running around. I mean, you mentioned tyrant. Well, you can't really be a tyrant unless you rule over someone. So I'm not so sure that the Sasquatch are the Nephilim. But there was other weird things going on at that time.

• 15:02Speaker 05

  There was a lot of, I think it's in Genesis somewhere. I used to know the passage. I can't think of it off the top of my head. These two brothers go on the field, and they're, they have sheep. And Genesis kind of gives you the impression like they ran into these creatures out there. But they don't really describe them. But it's strange. It doesn't sound like they ran into anything normal. Well, a few verses before that, it says they were messing with the DNA of plants and animals, the Nephilim and the fallen, were messing with everything on the earth. But if you go into extra texts like Enoch or Jubilees, Jubilees

• 15:44Speaker 05

  almost has that exact same chapter and verse, but it tells you what they saw. It goes into detail about what these two brothers saw. And it appeared to be some sort of reptilian, had a tail. I mean, what they're describing, I'd never, I've never heard of anything on earth like it. And it killed all the sheep. And so I think Sasquatch might be something closer to that, more than the actual Nephilim. But are you thinking Sasquatch is some sort of man?

• 16:18Speaker 06

  You know, I, I don't want to say what I lean towards you, because I really don't know. I feel like these creatures are so unique to themselves. But I, when I think of all the things they do, and the things I've encountered, and the hundreds of people that have told us their encounters and stories, there's a human aspect to them. So I really don't know. And then when I ask tribal members, you know, different tribal members have different views on them. Some don't believe at all. But a lot of them say that they're a type of human, an ancient type of human, a relic hominid, you know, or whatever. But they've been, they seem to have been here so long, like even, have you ever seen that Bigfoot

• 17:02Speaker 06

  that was painted in the Sistine Chapel?

• 17:05Speaker 05

  I don't think that I have.

• 17:08Speaker 06

  Somebody just told me about this the other day, and I looked it up. And sure enough, on the Sistine Chapel, it's called, it's on the altar wall that Michelangelo painted, it's called Judgment Day, I believe. And there's Sasquatch in a cave. And it's very clear that it's a Sasquatch. So I think that these, these things go back for so long, longer than we realize. So that's what makes me think that maybe it's a primitive type human. But also, I'm not against what you're saying, some sort of creation, some sort of mixing. Because there's also something very ape-like about them.

• 17:47Speaker 05

  Yeah, I agree. I think that there is a human aspect to them. There's a lot of accounts where I think, man, that sounds like something a human would do, rather than an animal. And there's also other cases where Sasquatch will rush someone, like what you would expect a gorilla to do, and then it stops. And you wonder why it stopped. And then when you throw in all of the weird things that go on in people's encounters, that eyewitnesses report, you know, like the mind speak, or glowing eyes, or it vanishing, which all sounds like nonsense until you experience it. I'm not so sure about the relic hominid. I would like

• 18:31Speaker 05

  it to be that. But I got a lot of questions. And Sarah, on your property, I've always wanted to ask you, after all of these years, did you ever find out kind of where they hang out, kind of like where they stay on the property?

• 18:46Speaker 06

  So where the pinch point to some valuable resources, our property is, I don't think that they're always here. But I do think that they're always close by, within a few miles, let's say. And there, there's one area. Okay, do you remember where you and your brother saw something through thermal? You guys were standing on the ridge and looking out into the valley?

• 19:12Speaker 05

  Oh, yeah, I've talked about that many times on the show. We were actually in the, that platform in the trees that Jonathan had built.

• 19:21Speaker 06

  Yeah, yeah, that's on the ridge.

• 19:24Speaker 05

  Yeah, I remember that night. I was unarmed. I had the thermal. Jonathan had an AR-15. Woody had an AR-15. When they wanted to go follow this thing out in the field, I remember well, I was unarmed.

• 19:39Speaker 06

  So towards that way, towards the end, there's this area that is like, super, super creepy. Like even my kids will tell you that there's just a certain feeling that you get when you go towards that area. And then one of the tribal members told me that there's caves somewhere nearby. I would like to, I would like to explore that area sometime, but I just get so creeped out going over there. We found some bones, some elk bones and some deer bones over there. And you know, that could be anything. But there's just a feeling sometimes that you get when they're around. And that's one area that I feel is like an absolute no-go zone.

• 20:23Speaker 06

  If you want to come over sometime and go over there with us, you're more than welcome. But um, I think that that's a spot. And then I also think, remember all the weird stuff you guys had happen at the tribal barn?

• 20:36Speaker 05

  Oh, yeah.

• 20:37Speaker 06

  I think that that also um, that area. And again, we're the pinch point to that area. But I think that spot is just, is just gold. I don't know if I told you about this before, but there, there's a cattle farmer that rents out multiple pastures on the reservation. And we don't have cows back here anymore, but we used to, you know? And six months out of the year, they would be here and then they would be removed before it would flood. But he was over there one day with his uh, with his nephew. And they could hear it talking. They could hear the big one talking. I've sent you recordings of that before, that deep growly voice. It, you can't make out what they're saying.

• 21:21Speaker 06

  They heard that live and they could not see it. And they looked everywhere and searched everywhere and they couldn't see it. But he said that it wa- it sounded like it was talking at them. His nephew said that he would never go back over there. But that's a super weird spot. I mean, you and Shannon and a, a group saw that weird light over there. And then something smacked the side of the barn.

• 21:43Speaker 05

  Yeah, you know, thinking back on it, that area does have a kind of a creepy vibe. Uh, we did see the light and it wasn't a smack on the uh, the barn. Jonathan and I were like a foot or two away from each other and we were talking. And whatever it was, it hit the barn between us. We were right next to it. I about fell out of my, I about fell on my butt, out of my skin. Uh, cause it shocked me so much. But it wasn't a slap. It would be like if I took a very, very large truck and ran it into that building going about eighty miles an hour. That's the kind of noise it made. And it shocked me.

• 22:23Speaker 05

  I remember Jonathan and I were both like eyes as big as saucers and, and it was right after we saw that light. Have you ever seen lights again on that property?

• 22:34Speaker 06

  I've seen lights before, yeah. I saw a light that was like, maybe this, maybe a little smaller than a basketball. And it was green and it had like this yellow comet tail, like this wavy tail off of it. And it was right above the tree line. It, it was going from north to south. And it, I don't know how to explain this, but it was almost like, it was almost like it was looking for something. The way it was moving. It wasn't just floating. It seemed like it was sentient, you know? It was super weird. But it was right over the trees and we've got second growth thug furs here. So however tall those are, right above the trees.

• 23:19Speaker 06

  And then I've also seen um, I saw this orange ball one time. This was probably two thousand thirteen or fourteen. It was more plasma looking and it seemed like it was trying to expand. And then it just disappeared. It just shrunk down to nothing in a flash. That was weird too. At that same night, I heard what sounded like a Native American woman singing. And the singing came floating towards me, but there was no figure. It sounded like a human with a beautiful voice singing in a native tongue. And it was coming towards me, but there was no figure. It, it brought tears to my eyes because it was so overwhelming.

• 24:04Speaker 05

  Yeah, that's really strange. So you were hearing the singing the same time you were seeing the lights?

• 24:10Speaker 06

  Not at the same time, but the same night. I believe I saw the light first a while before. And I was standing right on my front porch for both of them.

• 24:20Speaker 05

  How many times do you think you've seen the lights out there on your property?

• 24:24Speaker 06

  Well, I saw that orange plasma ball and then I saw the green one. And then the only other lights I've seen are um, what appear to be eyes. White, white uh, white glowing eyes, you know, that just look like tiny little Christmas lights, you know, small little eyes. There's been times where we've been outside and um, I haven't seen this in years, but it seems like Sasquatch activity, though it could be something else. Um, you know, you hear the stick breaking, the creeping and from, you know, about hundred to a hundred twenty feet away from different trees, see little, you know, they look like stars almost. That's the best way to put it.

• 25:09Speaker 06

  That would peek out. But there would be multiple. It wasn't just one set. It would be multiple sets of eyes. I've only seen red eyes one time. The red ones were glowing. Nobody will ever gaslight me and tell me that that was a reflection because that, they were glowing.

• 25:27Speaker 05

  Yeah, I'm convinced that their eyes glow. I've heard way too many eyewitnesses report that to me. And it's weird because that's not really how the eyeball works. Wha- what do you make of the glowing eyes?

• 25:42Speaker 06

  This particular night, there was what sounded like a group was across the street hooting and hollering and banging on trees, whooping on trees. And then there was one to the um, east side of our property that was howling and in, you know, responding back with tree knocking and stuff. And I came outside and I caught the eyes out of my peripheral and looked over. And I saw it walk down the tree line, the same tree line where I got the daylight photo. And I saw both eyes blink as it walked. But it seemed to be accompanied by, you know, the anger, like a certain behavior.

• 26:27Speaker 06

  Cause I've never seen it since. And I've heard also, I've heard other people say that the red eyes, they saw while um, the Sasquatch was chasing a deer or hunting or whatever, or also an angry situation, a more volatile behavior. So I don't know if it has to do with mood or, or what, but I've heard too many reports of it to, to deny that it comes with some sort of behavior where as the white glowing seems to be more of just checking things out.

• 26:58Speaker 05

  Yeah, I've heard other researchers say that they can have that theory that the eyes will change color based on their behavior, red being mad. But it's almost like they're describing a, a lava lamp more than they are a non-human primate or even a human primate at that point. And I remember one guy, I asked him, I said, um, and he was a hunter for many years. And he was describing these glowing eyes. And I said, you sure that is an eye shine? You sure you, you didn't see eye shine? And he had made the comment to me that it was like Christmas lights. These eyes were glowing. And like I said, the eyes don't work that way. If your eyes produce lights, you'd be blind.

• 27:42Speaker 05

  I can't think of any other non-human primate or human primate that can do that.

• 27:49Speaker 06

  Or anything, or any creature for that matter. The, the way that I describe that though, I like to use a comparison to an octopus. I, I was talking to this old man at a conference here one time years ago. And he also lived on the same river as us, but further away. He was about forty-five minutes away from us. And he had experienced the glowing eyes and he said, you know, if I were to, if, if a octopus was not discovered and I were to come to you and tell you about this creature and what its abilities, the way that it can fit in a jar and crawl outside of an aquarium into another aquarium

• 28:31Speaker 06

  and then go in front of a coral and its skin will change to that coral. And then it will go to another coral and its skin will change to that coral. It, it'll even grow the bumps. You would say, no way, no other creature on earth can do that. That sounds supernatural. And so for, with a Sasquatch, it could be something that's just unique to them, you know? Something that we don't understand because if we don't have a comparison of another creature that does that, how can we find out what the scientific method is for it? But nobody would believe you if you described an octopus to them. Nobody would believe you. It would sound nuts.

• 29:09Speaker 05

  Yeah, but I think when you're comparing an octopus to a Sasquatch, you know, that octopus is a vertebrae. It has three hearts. It has blue blood. It's not really a fair comparison.

• 29:25Speaker 06

  As unique as an octopus is what I mean. Does that make sense?

• 29:29Speaker 05

  It does make sense. And I understand what you're saying. It's kind of an illustration and a lot of the weird stuff bothers me. You know, my encounter, nothing weird happened. I mean, don't get me wrong. It, it was weird, but there was no eye glow. There was no mind speak, nothing vanished. And I used to think when you would, when people would report mind speak, it must only be from crazy people. But it gets reported a lot and it bothers me. Because you know, we're talking about comparisons. When you think of mind speak, where else do you hear that? You hear it in demonic encounters. You hear it in quote unquote, alien encounters. And I've heard it in Sasquatch encounters, many Sasquatch encounters.

• 30:14Speaker 05

  And people might hear that and go, well, that's crazy. Well, there's about a thousand people I can bring to you that would disagree with that statement. But they do a lot of things that you wouldn't find any other primate doing. You know, the spider crawl. I can't think of very many primates that could pull that off. But when you compare like mind speak, you won't go to the zoo and have a chimp mind speak with you. You won't go have a, a gorilla mind speak with you. But in Sasquatch encounters, it happens. And I'm not sure what to make of it.

• 30:47Speaker 06

  What if uh, we have the ability to do a lot of the things that we do, but we're so bombarded by uh, technologies, you know, radiation, wifi, poisonous food, fluoridated, fluoridated water? What if we could do some of the stuff they do and we just have forgotten how to tap into that?

• 31:08Speaker 05

  Yeah, I guess I'm a little bit of a hypocrite because I used to think even remote viewing was absolute nonsense until I looked into it and kind of put my bias aside and gave it an honest look. And I'm convinced it absolutely is an ability probably everyone has. I mean, even the CIA funds remote viewers. They claim they don't do it today, but I don't buy that for a second.

• 31:36Speaker 06

  Um, oh, I should tell you another story. So fireworks last year, even though I'm not tribal, I still get to sell fireworks. I get to take part in most of the tribal things. I just can't go to the annual meeting every year. But during fireworks 2025, one of the tribal matriarchs is a firework vendor. You know, they have their own brand of fireworks that they sell. And she was telling me tribal stories for over an hour. It was incredible, her stories. If I could make a video just on her, it would just be incredible. She told me that her cousin, he also passed away

• 32:18Speaker 06

  a few years ago. He was, he's our closest neighbor, his home. He was intoxicated one time. And he wasn't allowed to go home if he was intoxicated. And he was in the valley behind our home, kind of by the tribal barn, a few hundred feet away from the tribal barn. And they were messing with him so bad that he dug a hole and hid in it for the rest of the night. Can you imagine?

• 32:46Speaker 05

  Yeah, I can't imagine that. I can imagine that a lot. It would seem like something I would do. I mean, they do strike the fear in you. Jonathan had talked about this little one that you guys had been seeing, and even your neighbors had seen. Um, tell me about that.

• 33:02Speaker 06

  So this little one has been seen by our neighbor. Her daughter saw on the roof. And she saw on the roof, I saw, I saw on our roof last April, and her daughter saw on the roof in June. And then another neighbor that's a couple miles away from us as the crow flies, we interviewed him, I believe, last year, maybe it was, maybe it was late 2024. But he, he had someone visiting and they also saw the little one. So we were on the phone, we were, we were in our gazebo talking on the phone with someone. And I was going inside. Again,

• 33:44Speaker 06

  it was a very, very dark night. And when I was about, I'm looking at my backyard right now, when I was about 10 feet away from my back door, out of the corner of my eye, I saw the silhouette of this thing on this, on the very edge of my roof. And it was doing a Slav squat. And its legs were bent, you know, just like the Slav squat, its knees were bent, and its hands, its arms appeared to be between its legs, holding on to the edge of the roof. And I didn't see a neck. It was very triangular up top, you know, like the, I don't know if it's the muscle or what

• 34:28Speaker 06

  that does that, that gives them the appearance of not having a neck. But it just very triangular looking with a rounded head, but not a coned head. And it didn't, it didn't move. It didn't move. It would not even budge. And it freaked me out so bad that I went inside and I cried about it because it freaked me out so bad. And I wondered if it was looking in the skylight, because we have curtains and blinds all over our house. You can't see in at night. But that skylight, that's right into our living room. And then that tribal member that I was telling you about, whose daughter saw one, same thing with their house, they also have skylights.

• 35:10Speaker 06

  That that sighting really messed with me. Like, I'm surprised that I can talk about it so freely now. I had called David Ellis, right after it had happened, not that night, but I think the next day. And I was very emotional about it, telling him about it. And I said, that's not something I ever want to talk about with people because it made me so uncomfortable. And he's like, you got to get to the point where you can share that because it's part of the story. And it also shows, you know, that they are, they do breed. There's a breeding population. So that's that encounter. And again, two neighbors reporting the same thing.

• 35:46Speaker 05

  How big was that creature, Sarah?

• 35:49Speaker 06

  So I saw again kneeling. So not including its legs, I would say it was about two to two and a half feet tall. So with legs, you're talking three, four feet. And I think that that's the same little, little punk that clears my fruit trees. Because I have so many fruit trees in my yard. And for the last few years, I've been monitoring my sweetheart cherry tree. This thing is now, I would say, 22 feet tall. Something comes in overnight, right before harvest time. It's never at harvest, it's right before, and they'll wipe this thing out. And I just don't

• 36:34Speaker 06

  know what else could get up that tree without breaking more branches. This year, I have video of it. I have video of it this year and last year, because I would go out every day and monitor. And this year, a broken branch was hanging down when I went outside. And I look up, sure enough, every single cherry gone.

• 36:56Speaker 05

  When this thing would get up on the roof and you guys are inside, do you hear it running across the roof?

• 37:02Speaker 06

  We've heard things on the roof, but I don't know what it is. You know, it didn't sound necessarily bipedal, but you'd hear thumps up there. You know, I had another weird situation with, we have second growth Douglas firs on our property. And there's a few of them. Some people call them twin trees, you know, where like, when it was younger, it broke or got cut off. And so then it splits into two. Well, one of these Douglas fir trees, I'm looking at it right now, the split is, I would say, 18 feet off the ground, 18 or 19 feet off the

• 37:42Speaker 06

  ground. And Jonathan and I are out here, I think this was 2015, 2016. And we're looking up at it. And I was like, look at all of that sap, that Douglas fir sap. I mean, that stuff's gold in the medicinal world, you know, you can, you can do so much with that, enough to fill a boot shoebox. And I'm pointing up at this sap to him. And I said, we need to call Dan, Dan's one of the tribal members that's kind of into, you know, the plant medicine and stuff. And I said, we need to call Dan and have him come harvest that. That stuff's gold. The next day it was gone. The whole thing, every bit of it was gone. How did they know we were going to

• 38:25Speaker 06

  harvest that? You know, were they watching me talk about it? Like?

• 38:31Speaker 05

  Yeah, that is odd. You know, when I was on your property, and I know you have hours and hours and hours of recordings of these creatures. One time I was out there on the property, and I think I was with Jonathan, or maybe his brother. And we were kind of over by that river next to your guys' home. And I heard a train, but the train sound came from the west. The train is actually in the opposite direction. It's east of us. And it sounded like a train, but it was a little bit, I mean, not a little bit, it was weird. It didn't quite sound like a train. But have you heard any other vocalizations that have surprised you? I know you've heard a lot of weird, and you've recorded a lot of weird ones.

• 39:16Speaker 06

  Surprise me. Um, I wouldn't say that have surprised me. No, there's always weird, there's mimicry for sure. I mean, we've heard a perfect ambulance when there was no ambulance and it was in the forest, you know, walking parallel to our property. We've heard our names in our time. My daughters, just last fall, my daughters came inside, they were out riding the quad, and they heard me yelling for them from the forest. And I wasn't there. But they said that it was my voice. So there's always weird, always weird stuff. A lot, I think that they mimic a lot. And I think that's how they stay so concealed is they communicate by

• 39:59Speaker 06

  impersonating other things. A couple nights ago, so usually we don't have any activity in August, probably because the creek is dried up. And I've, I've gotten some audio in August, but it's distant vocals, very distant vocals, not clear. But last week, we had some crazy stuff happen very close to our house. My middle daughter, who

• 40:28Speaker 06

  All of my kids are very aware of Sasquatch. Two of the three have seen it, but they're not into it. They don't, you gotta catch them on a good day. You gotta make them feel comfortable for them to tell you stories, you know, or their experiences. My middle daughter does not like telling us when she hears them. But she came in the house, or she, I'm sorry, she was in the house. She came in my room the other night and woke me up and said that there was heavy breathing and loud footsteps outside of the window. And she goes, it was like a man, but a weird man.

• 41:07Speaker 05

  And I know you're protective of your kids like a mama bear. But how do you feel when your kid tells you that, especially in the middle of the night?

• 41:17Speaker 06

  If I thought that, I'm not saying all Sasquatch are, are good or not dangerous. However, when I'm just speaking of the ones here, they could have snapped my neck 100 times over. They could have made me or any of my kids disappear. Like my kids ride the quad, you know, out down the walnut grove, down by the barn. And we never had anything happen that, that made me scared or made me worried. So, speaking for this group only, I'm, I'm not, I have a healthy fear of them because you know, there, it's a wild creature. But I'm, I wouldn't say that I'm scared of them. I'm not scared for my life and I'm not scared for my kid's life.

• 42:03Speaker 05

  Yeah, being that I've been out to your property so many times, I kind of understand where you're coming from. I think for me, like the male brain is, you know, my kid tells me that I'm gonna go outside and start shooting. I think you have a much more healthier attitude towards it. And you're right, they could have hurt anyone there. Every time I've been on your property, I've never really had any fear. I never really felt like I was being threatened. So I kind of get where you're coming from.

• 42:31Speaker 06

  I've only felt, felt extremely threatened one time. And that was back in 2014. I was down by the creek. And I, I was actually within 30 feet of where I saw one in 2024. Was that 2025? But um, I was down there. It was broad daylight. And first of all, it started with a stellar jay going nuts. And so I was paying attention to that. What is this bird going nuts for? And then knocking started all around me, knocking across the field, knocking to my left, knocking to my right,

• 43:10Speaker 06

  knocking close by, knocking far away. And it was becoming more and more frantic. And I was, the, the sense of dread, that primal fear that I was getting was becoming more and more intense and more, it was so overwhelming. And I ran out into the, into the field from the tree line. And the minute I did that, it all stopped. And I went home in tears to John about that. Something was stalking me. And I don't know what it was. I don't know what it was, but I felt like I was being warned. I felt like something was telling me to get out of there with all the knocking.

• 43:48Speaker 05

  Yeah, kind of, um, I kind of got chills when he said that. I experienced that one time in Texas. It wasn't knocking, it was screaming. But I couldn't really tell you where it was coming from. It seemed like it was like all around me, but I couldn't nail down where it was coming from. And I kind of had that same fear you're talking about where I was like, I'm out of here. And I know you guys have a YouTube channel, Salish Sasquatch. And I'll include a link. I post your guys' videos all the time. I think you guys do a really cool job at putting together these videos. And for the audience, you'll go out and interview eyewitnesses at the location and have them kind of recount what

• 44:32Speaker 05

  happened. There's also some really cool audio up there that I know you've recorded, Sarah. But out of all the eyewitnesses you've interviewed, is there one that kind of stays with you?

• 44:45Speaker 06

  Oh, most definitely. My friend Marcus. Uh, so if people go to the drone incident video, my friend Marcus, I met him through one of my best friends, my friend Steve Edwards. And market, Steve was gonna go on a Bigfoot, what do you call it? I don't want to say it wasn't an expedition, but it was a camp out, you know? And his wife had bought him tickets. His wife got sick. So he asked Marcus, Marcus, 100% not a believer. And he went on this camp out. And unfortunately, the equipment failed, which we all know happens in Bigfooting. The drone operator thought he was filming. Everybody

• 45:30Speaker 06

  thought he was filming. And for whatever reason, he wasn't, the file wasn't there. So I don't, I don't fault him. But Marcus first was looking on the guy's screen and watching the drone follow these, these creatures. Mass, one of them was just massive. And he's not really understanding what he's seeing, even though he can see legs, he can see toes, he can see everything. He can see that it's dwarfing the guy that's trying to foolishly chase, chase it, you know? And everybody had kind of gone away after this. The drone, the battery was dying. So it was going back to home

• 46:11Speaker 06

  base. Everybody was frustrated with each other because the guy that had chased it, you know, they were mad at him. And he's standing there saying, it's right there. This is right before dark. It's right there. You know, I, I had seen it on the screen. It's gotta be right up here in the woods. And they're blowing Marcus off. And then Marcus saw it. He just turned. He felt like something was watching him. And he turned and it was there. And at first he thought it was one of them in, in a costume. And then he was just like, this has to be real. This thing's too freaking huge. And he, so he, he said, okay, if this thing is, if this thing is real, I need to take in every, every, I

• 46:53Speaker 06

  need to remember every detail of it. And his encounters on there, and he actually breaks down while we were filming him as he talks about it. It's incredible. It's, he's just an incredible guy. But um, his encounter will forever stay with me. It's body language that you can't ignore. And um, yeah, definitely Marcus, the drone incident on Sailor Sasquatch.

• 47:19Speaker 05

  Yeah, and I'll play a clip from that, that video that you posted. Again, for the audience, Sailor Sasquatch, definitely go subscribe. And this is a little bit longer of a clip than I would normally play. But I thought it was so cool that you got everyone's perspective on what they were doing. And then you kind of end on Marcus. The clip isn't the whole video. I'll post the whole video underneath this episode. But let's take a listen.

• 47:50Speaker 04

  This is a place that we had camped probably about 50 nights or so in total, not consecutively, but over the years. And there's been a lot of activity from this area, specifically, just about a half mile down here, on one of our videos, it's called the Cascades Encounter. That's where that whole encounter took place. And just down the road here is where Scott Taylor took the report of the Night Watchmen. I mean, all of this is like within a half mile. It's produced significant activity over the years. So it was March 26th of 2022. There was about 12 to 14 of us

• 48:29Speaker 04

  that were having a camp out here in this quarry. And there was two trailers that were in a L shape. There was one right here. And then there was another one going this way. We had a fire going. Everybody was eating food and having drinks. And then, uh, I was, I was just walking around talking with people. And then one of the guys that was with us, he was sitting right over here.

• 49:09Speaker 04

  He's sitting right here and he goes, uh,

• 49:13Speaker 04

  Jonathan, I need you to come over here real quick to make sure that I'm not going crazy. And I was like, what's going on? And he goes, as I'm sitting here, I keep hearing something above me. And every time I turn, there's nothing there, but I've heard like rocks moving. And I didn't hear any of that, but I'm just sitting by him. And then all of a sudden from across the road over here, we start hearing rock clacking, like it's going, it's going for minutes. I mentioned to him at this point, because him and I are the only ones that are hearing it.

• 49:54Speaker 04

  We're set off a little bit from the rest of the people who are laughing, talking, just carrying away. And for them, the noise is being blocked by the trailer that's parked right there. And the rock clacking keeps going off for at least five minutes. And I tell him, I go, the only thing is like, once we, once we tell everybody here at the group, what's going on, everybody's body language is going to change. It's going to be chaotic. So how do we get around that? And we're just talking quietly to each other at the time. And then we came to the conclusion that there's no way of avoiding that. People are going to be looking around, scurrying, trying to get their gear and everything like that.

• 50:34Speaker 04

  And so that's when, uh, he told the guy who had a thermal drone, he goes, "All right, um, get your drone out and look over there." And then the guy who's, he got his drone out, he starts flying it over there. And just as predicted, everybody starts scurrying around. And it was chaotic for minutes. And, uh, the guy who's flying the drone was like, "The only thing is I'm not seeing anything that's over there." And then, uh, then he goes, "Okay, well, look behind me." And then, uh, the drone flies over and on the other side of, of over here, there's a bunch of alders.

• 51:15Speaker 04

  And he goes, "Well, actually there's something really big that's, uh, that's standing up by one of the alders." And he was like, "Jonathan, come look at this." And I go over and look at the thermal drone monitor and you're looking at it from above. So you're just seeing something that's stationary from above, right next to an alder. It wasn't that impressive, but it was very large. And then, uh, uh, the same guy who had heard the scurrying going on, he goes, "Well, I'm going to go down, I'm going to start heading down the road and see if, what I can hear."

• 51:48Speaker 06

  So were you and Steve together at this point?

• 51:50Speaker 00

  No, no, I was, I was with the other gentleman that, that, uh, Jonathan was talking to. We were sitting right here. I was sitting exactly in this position, not on this rock, because these rocks have changed since then. And as I'm sitting here, we're talking, we're eating. They had a campfire down there. And I could hear little rocks, but I just thought it was natural from the rock quarry. And I got so many rocks in this area. And they're coming directly behind me, directly right up there, which is only about, not even 20 feet away. And, and then, uh, I get up to get something to eat. I see Jonathan walk over,

• 52:33Speaker 00

  because the other gentleman asked him to come over. He started, they started talking. And I'm wondering what's going on, because I don't really know anybody at this point. And, uh, I see Jonathan get up and he's got this serious look on his face. He walks towards the trailer where this gentleman had a drone. And next thing I know that he's starting to drone up, I'm thinking to myself, what's he doing? This is the middle of the daytime. I thought these were night vision drones. And he sets it, goes straight up in the air and goes about 80, 90 feet straight up in the air. And you see the camera on it and it zooms straight down. And then I hear him go, I don't know what he said. It was two or three, but he says,

• 53:15Speaker 00

  "Oh my God, there's two or three of them." And, and I look back and you see them, something, all I see is, looked like hands, push away and go back behind the, the rock over there. And then the drone stays up in the air and it starts going that direction. So at that point, um, I got up and I think all of a sudden panic just went through everybody. Because at that point, uh, when he said that, everybody just lit up, something was going on. We didn't know what. I didn't know who to follow, what was going on, or what they were supposedly in Bigfoot. So I just followed the group and I went down to the guy who had the drone.

• 53:58Speaker 00

  And I stayed to his, on his, it'd be his right shoulder. And I looked over the whole time at the drone. He was following this thing, whatever he was following. And I remember a couple, two, three people, people asking him, uh, "Do you, are you recording? Are you recording?" He's going, "Yeah, I'm recording, I'm recording." So that's what happened at that point. And then from that point, uh, the story relocates, because we moved at that point to go down to follow the drone to see what was happening.

• 54:27Speaker 06

  And, um, can you fill in everybody watching on, uh, your background in Bigfoot? Like when you showed up at this event, it was kind of a random invite by Steve and you had no clue that Sasquatch existed, correct?

• 54:39Speaker 00

  I didn't believe in Bigfoot. I, I didn't, I, I came along because, um, um, it was an adventure for me to go camping and to meet new people camping. And I always thought, well, camping in numbers is always safer anyway. So that was the reason why I came out. Um, they had asked me if I believed in Bigfoot. I told them, you know, um, I'm, I'll be a skeptic and maybe I'll leave as a believer. I don't know. But, you know, I, I'd like to think maybe there's something here, but I don't know. And so that was my whole attitude to begin with, because I was hearing stories and, and they were just stories to me. Because that's, that's all they were. And, and I just thought, okay, well, these people believe in what they see or whatever.

• 55:24Speaker 00

  Okay. You know, a little more power, more power to them. But I was just happy that we were out camping. We started walking this way. We came out this way.

• 55:34Speaker 00

  At this point, everybody started just leaving, um, they started, some people were running, some people were walking. And someone said, "Don't run, don't run, don't, just slow down." So we walk, we go down to this logging road down here and we started following it down to the left. And, uh, at that point, um, by the time I got there, I saw, uh, an individual who was running down there. And while he was running down there, we were following the drone and the camera. Like I said, we were looking over the, the drone operator's shoulder as he was looking at his, uh, screen. And it went over the trees and went all the way down and followed it and followed it.

• 56:19Speaker 04

  After the gentleman that I was sitting by that, it made me aware of the rock clacking. Uh, he goes down the road, as I was saying. And then he radios over and he goes, "Jonathan, come down this way. There's at least two Sasquatches down by the creek." And so I'm scurrying to go get my phone, because it was charging at the time. And everybody else is getting their stuff. And when I start walking down the road right here, that's when there's these two power knocks. I mean, it sounded like, they were so loud, it sounded like two gunshots, but it wasn't gunshots. It was just boom, boom, just two big cracks.

• 57:01Speaker 04

  And as I had mentioned, uh, before, when the drone pilot went over this way, he saw one stationary by the, uh, alder trees. But as everybody starts going down the road and those two power knocks go off, everybody just kind of forgot about what the individual that's over here and started going towards the loud noise. And this area was just abandoned. Everybody goes down by the creek. And looking back at it in hindsight, that was really stupid of us, because if we would have just, uh, stayed where we are instead of listening, going after, you know, what was making all the noise, there's a good chance that we could have, uh, gotten a couple different, uh, perspectives

• 57:42Speaker 04

  of the Sasquatch on thermal, because it wouldn't take much to surround this area over here, because there's another road behind there.

• 57:49Speaker 03

  So I was, I was sitting on a log right here and our fire pit is right in front of me. And I see, uh, Marcus and everybody grouped around me and, and John. And our other friend was, uh, they were talking and they go and tell the, the drone operator to come and bring his drone out. He brings it up and I'm watching this from over here. And I noticed he says, at one point, he's up, it's up in the air. He's like, "Holy crap, holy crap, there's like three of them." And I'm like, what? From what I'm witnessing is people are getting excited. And I'm hearing him relay what he's seeing. And he's like, "There's three of them."

• 58:30Speaker 03

  And they're, they're over, over there. And then at one point, they, I think it, it looked like, uh, um, I believe a family of a male, a female, and possibly a smaller one. And the two, the probably the two smaller ones, they, they dipped out and they went one way. And I witnessed everybody saying that the huge male or whatever, the large one was crossing the road. And at that point, it's literally right around the corner. We're hoping we're going to see a crossing on the road. And we get up, including myself, and I make a dash for the road to see.

• 59:13Speaker 05

  If we could catch this thing and that's when chaos broke out and we went that way. Okay, so now at this point, chaos is broken. Everybody knows something's going on. We're trying to catch this thing. So we're running this way.

• 59:32Speaker 05

  Approaching the road.

• 59:35Speaker 05

  And I looked down this way and it curves and I'm like, no, we can't see anything from where it was crossing. So we had to keep going. And

• 59:48Speaker 05

  a group of us, most of us, a couple of the ladies stayed back, but we, most of the guys ran down here as a group. And uh, we're trying to catch this thing walk by and we, we get there. I get there too late. I don't see anything. But the whole time we're, are monitoring the movement um with the drone.

• 1:00:11Speaker 06

  The drone operator has the drone following these objects and based on what her, he's saying, you guys are following the

• 1:00:18Speaker 05

  Yep.

• 1:00:18Speaker 06

  The Sasquatch. Okay.

• 1:00:20Speaker 05

  I stayed with the drone operator, a couple of us did.

• 1:00:24Speaker 06

  What were some of the details you saw?

• 1:00:27Speaker 05

  Uh, well, the details, so I wasn't looking at the screen the entire time. One person was on one side, um Marcus was on the other and I was trying to jump over his shoulders to get a look. At one point, uh Marcus took off and he tried to see um up the hill to see what we could see physically. And I went in there and I'm looking at the monitor and what I'm witnessing is I'm seeing

• 1:00:59Speaker 05

  this thing standing there right next to a tree and it is uh the drones that right above and I'm seeing the left side in the back. At that angle, the whole thing and I see this giant arm uh on the side. And it's not straight down. It's resting at an angle, kinda like this. And I see the body and it's huge. It's, it's very thick and very wide and it was very symmetrical, almost like um. The best way I can describe it is seeing a refrigerator standing there next, placed right next to a tree. It was that

• 1:01:38Speaker 05

  symmetrical in width and in depth and um, and then I saw the head on top, but the body was so something that I was not used to see and I've never seen anything like that and it was impressive, very impressive, very huge.

• 1:01:54Speaker 06

  And Marcus, didn't you see, at one point, didn't you see some legs as it walked?

• 1:01:59Speaker 00

  Camera's pointing down and in the screen you could see this thing, big huge thing, walking. And the detail was so good on the camera as it's walking, the gentleman on the other side of him says, "Look at the size of those legs." I'm looking at the legs and they were almost, almost, almost, almost the size of my trunk, my body. And then he says, and then I'm looking at this thing in the screen again and I'm realizing I can see this, the toes of this thing as it's walking. The detail was incredible. I could see the toes as it's walking on the screen and the gentleman on the inside of the drone operator at the exact same time said, "Oh my, look at the toes. You can see the toes."

• 1:02:41Speaker 00

  And, and at that point, I look back up, I see the drone and it's going and I see another guy running down that way now. And we're right about to where we were when the gentleman that was down there by that yellow gate, he beelined to the right and went up. And as he goes up, I look at the drone, the camera, and now I see two, two bodies. I see a red dot and a, and I think it was a green dot. One of the dots was the gentleman running up the, into the hill. The other dot was over the creature. And I'm thinking to myself, this is a great show.

• 1:03:28Speaker 00

  This is really a cool show. I can't believe these guys are doing this because um, this, this, this can't, this is so cool because this is, I mean, I can't believe they're putting on such a good show for me. And, and I'm thinking, okay, well, I'll go along with it. We'll see what's happening here and, but at the same time, I was kinda confused because all these men, grown men, who I knew, some of these guys uh were uh track specialists who, who follow footprints. You got people here who understand the trees and the woods and the sounds and all the different things, all these different experts that their fields are out here. And they're all acting like kids, crazy kids screaming and yelling.

• 1:04:08Speaker 00

  And so I just couldn't put two together. I just thought, okay, well, let's just see where this whole thing goes. So I went down there to follow them and see what was happening.

• 1:04:17Speaker 00

  And so at that point, that's, that's all there was. And so I just followed them, went to the point where we were out there. And that's when we caught up, the drone, we caught up with the drone and the guy that was in the woods.

• 1:04:29Speaker 05

  Right about here in this location is when the uh drone operator, myself and our other guy that was with us, um Marcus, we, we stayed right here and our other buddy is up there in the hillside trying to chase this thing. And I remember standing here and at one point I could see the screen and I remember seeing um our guy up there on the hill. We could see him and then we could also see this other thing and there was a major, major size difference uh from what he was. And he's, I don't know, not sure how, how tall he is, five, 10, maybe.

• 1:05:08Speaker 06

  Five, nine, five, 10.

• 1:05:09Speaker 05

  Five, 10, average height guy, but um this thing was on the thermal from as high up as that drone was, you could see it was a massive size difference. It was shocking. I couldn't believe what I was, what I was seeing. But um, and myself, this was my first experience of having anything like this and I'm thinking, is this really going on? Is this how it goes down? I was in a very surreal state of mind. Uh, wasn't sure what was going on, but I was rolling with it and I just uh regret not watching so much more, but I was willing to hopefully watch the replay that um, that didn't happen, but

• 1:05:49Speaker 05

  what I saw was really, really fascinating and something that you definitely don't see every day.

• 1:05:55Speaker 00

  At this point by this gate is when the drone operator and I were here. I could see the trees are about, about 60 feet in the air and the drone was easily about 90 feet above that. And you could see it going over and as I'm watching in the, the camera, I could see both the gentleman who was chasing the Bigfoot and the Bigfoot. And they were, from where I was, we were set up at almost a perfect triangle of where they were and I'm yelling at the guy, "Go up a little further, go up a little further." He goes up and I'm looking down and go, okay, he's over to your left, he's over to your left. And he's looking, he says, "I don't see him, I don't see him." I says, "He's right over there to the left."

• 1:06:35Speaker 00

  As he's doing this, I see this big, huge thing. It was so huge and wide that it walked over, went behind the tree. Deep behind the tree, but it was so big that in comparison, it was standing behind the tree holding on to it. And in its, in its arms, the wide was so wide, it looked like the tree was like this on it. And then it stayed there for about, oh, I don't know, um 15, 20 seconds and then it pushed off the tree. You could see the feet again, the toes and you could see how big the legs were. It walked over about four steps, stood behind another tree and hid behind it again. And I'm telling the guy, "Go to your left, go to your left, you're not far from it."

• 1:07:19Speaker 00

  And he goes, "I don't see it, I don't see it." And at that point, I see the drone and it starts going back this way and I go to the drone operator, I go, "What are you doing?" He says, "The battery's going dead." I says, "Well, what, what's it doing?" He says, "It's going back to home base." I said, "No." I said, "They're both right there." He goes, "It's, it's going back." So at that point, he started leaving, he started going back. This guy was still up there. I came over to this area. I wanted to try to get a better look because I could see where he is. And I knew about where I saw that creature. I don't know why people call it a Bigfoot, but that's another story. I came over to, oh, the terrain's changed a lot here. Oh, I was right over here.

• 1:08:05Speaker 00

  I came over here because it was over in this area someplace. And I couldn't see it, I couldn't see it at all, but I knew it was in this area and then all of a sudden, I see people scattering, people going back up to the trail there. I see people running this way now. I hear someone go, "We're going to the creek, we're going to the creek." And I didn't know there was a creek down this way. I see three, four guys running that direction. And then I see two or three more guys go down this, this driveway or this hill. And I don't know what everybody's doing and I don't really know anybody and I don't know where I'm supposed to go, who I'm supposed to follow. Um, what are we doing? I, I don't know. So I just stayed here.

• 1:08:48Speaker 00

  I hear them screaming up there and this guy's coming down and he's, he's all sweaty, his coat's off and he's just all torn apart from running in the bushes. I'm standing here and all of a sudden, everybody's gone. And I realize I'm by myself. So I've just thought, okay, well, I'll just stay here because I don't know where, what to do. And as I'm looking around, waiting around, um, you know, this went on from, watching the drone come down this way, by the way, this whole process from the moment we saw it up at the rock quarry to here was probably about three minutes in the, in the, on the uh screen of the drone. So I'm thinking, I'm gonna go down, go down to the creek and help these guys.

• 1:09:28Speaker 00

  So I started walking down this way and I see the guys come back up running this way. I stand here and I look and, and I felt something. I didn't know what it was. I look up and there he was.

• 1:10:04Speaker 00

  That was the, um, what I still thought at the time, sorry about this. At the time, I still thought it was a, uh, person in a, maybe a costume or something. But he was big, he was huge. Um, he stood there, he just stood there stared. I stared at him, we looked at each other. I thought, okay, if this is real, I better get this burned in my mind. So I'm watching him.

• 1:10:34Speaker 00

  Trying to see his, uh,

• 1:10:38Speaker 00

  his face, which I could see, um, it didn't look like a gorilla, cause I understood Bigfoot look like gorilla. Didn't look like that. It looked, it almost looked human. It had this bunch of nose, it had the big eyes, deep brow. I didn't, the, the, the head shape was more rounded. It didn't look like a gorilla head shape to me at all. Um, his eyes were very piercing. Um, it looked, they look wild. They look wild like, um, if I come down, I can just rip you apart in a heartbeat. And, um, I'm looking at him and I could see how wide he was. And I could see, I couldn't see the bottom of his arms because the fur,

• 1:11:23Speaker 00

  the ferns up there, his arms hang down further than the ferns. And, and we just stared at each other for a good thirty seconds. And I'm looking at him going, is he trying to memorize my face? Is he looking into my, my mind? Was, what is he doing? What's he, what's he doing with me? What's my, what's, what are we doing here? And all of a sudden, uh, all of a sudden I felt like, um, um, someone was behind me. So I turned real quick and this is about how quick I turned. I went like this, look back, and then I look back this way. And at that point, I saw him standing at a attention

• 1:12:02Speaker 00

  type stance to turning to my right, which would be his left. And he turned down and went sideways and went to the ground. And that's when I could see how thick he was. And he was probably easily three feet thick. And at this distance and from what I could see, it was probably about, about, uh, again, about, I don't know, between, I don't know what that is, between eighty to a hundred and twenty feet away from me. But I could see that, um, he turned and went down and disappeared. And I realized, okay, this is, this is not look right. And he started crawling and I could see him, I could see the fern

• 1:12:44Speaker 00

  starting to move and he's starting to come down, not straight across, he's starting to come down at an angle. And he's starting to go back this direction. And as he's coming by, I see the guy who was first chasing the, uh, Bigfoot. I don't know when it happened, but he had gotten ahead of me and he's come back this way. And I told him, I said, hey, um, he's moving right up there. And he goes, yeah, okay, sure. And I thought, okay, well, I don't know who these guys are anyway, so whatever. And then, um, I think I was kind of stunned because I still didn't know what to do. And then all of a sudden I see Jonathan and he's walking by me and he's got his head down and he's like this. And I go, um, it's,

• 1:13:28Speaker 00

  it's, it's right over there now, moving in the, in the, in the woods. He goes, yeah. And he blew me off too. And I thought, okay, well, I don't know what the protocol is. So at that point, I thought, well, now what do I do? So then I thought, well, I guess I better go back to camp. So I started walking back to camp. As I'm starting to walk back to camp, I see it's going down this direction and it's come, it's, it's only about, uh, as I'm coming up this way, I get up to, by the time I get up to, just about to the gate again, I see Steve walking down and it's coming across right by Steve. And I go, did you see that? Did you see that? And he goes, yeah, I know. I can't believe we saw that. And I thought, oh my God, I can't believe we both saw this thing. Is it, is it real?

• 1:14:11Speaker 00

  And, and we were just all excited because we didn't know what to do at that point. Then we went back into camp and I see everybody arguing and screaming and yelling at that point. And, um, I think I went into shock because I didn't know if it was real or not. And I don't remember coming home that night, or if we came home that night or spent the night and then went home the next day. I, I went totally blank. And I didn't, I believed I saw something, but I wasn't sure. And to give you an idea of how big it was, um, I figure I'm five seven and I figure if I stood next to this thing, I probably can look about here on it. So I don't know how, how tall it would be, eight, nine, 10 feet. I don't know. But anyways, I was walking out this way. That's when I saw Steve and this is

• 1:14:56Speaker 00

  when we thought we saw what we had saw.

• 1:14:59Speaker 06

  Can you, um, go into detail a little bit more about its face? I remember you saying something about its bangs.

• 1:15:04Speaker 00

  The hair, the hair on top was cut pretty much straight. It, it had hair here. The nose was mushed. It had kind of like a yellowish eyes. The lips were human, absolutely human. And what I thought about this later on is I'm thinking, it's got people up there, it's got people back there, it's got people up there on the side. And it still came back to me. And what we realized later, was what I was told is, it probably came out to see me on purpose because

• 1:15:33Speaker 06

  Distraction.

• 1:15:34Speaker 00

  Distraction because the baby and the mother and a few were rocking behind me, were walking, crossing the road behind me. So he was standing there to get my attention. So I wouldn't look back to see them.

• 1:15:48Speaker 05

  It's really cool to kind of see the area and you're right, when you, I know it's audio, it's a podcast, but when you watch this guy, your heart goes out to him.

• 1:15:58Speaker 06

  I have two favorite, uh, interviews on my channel and that's, that's one of them. Um, also I want to ask while, uh, while we're on, if you would come back out to our property again sometime this fall?

• 1:16:13Speaker 05

  Yeah, I would absolutely love to come out and see you guys again.

• 1:16:18Speaker 06

  Okay. Well, now, uh, your audience is going to hold you to it.

• 1:16:23Speaker 05

  No, I would love to come out and see you guys again. I've always enjoyed going out there. You guys treat a bum like me really well. I miss you guys. I would love to come out and see you guys again. But Sarah, it's been too long. Thank you so much for coming on.

• 1:16:39Speaker 06

  Thank you. And thank you for having me on again.

• 1:16:43Speaker 05

  And that's it for tonight, everyone. Remember, if you've had an encounter, shoot me an email. My email address is [email protected]. Until next time, everyone. Until next time everyone

• 1:19:47Speaker 05

  You are the guest in me And I make you stay in me

• 1:19:56Speaker 05

  So I hold you down in me And I make you stay in me And we slip away in me

• 1:20:06Speaker 05

  So you're still here in me And we're smiling with feeling Cause I found the key to me

• 1:20:17Speaker 05

  You are the guest in me And I make you stay in me And we slip away in me