999. Andy, Royce White & DJ CTI: Bad Bunny's Super Bowl Halftime Performance, ICE Raids in Minnesota & Epstein Files

On today's episode, Andy & DJ are joined in the studio by Royce White. They discuss Bad Bunny's Super Bowl halftime performance, the ICE raids happening in Minnesota, and the Trump administration's handling of the Epstein files.

Speaker names marked ? are inferred from speaking time and the show’s known hosts — they are not voice-verified.

• 0:02Andy Frisella?

  What is up guys, it's Andy Frisell and this is the show for the realists saying goodbye to the lies, the fakeness and delusions of modern society and welcome to motherfucking reality guys. Today we have Andy and DJ Cruz the motherfucking internet, that's what we're gonna do. We also have a very special guest, Mr. Royce White.

• 0:35Speaker 01

  Thank you.

• 0:36Andy Frisella?

  Coming all the way down from Minnesota to be on the show. A lot of you guys are fans, a lot of you guys been requesting him. We've been talking for years.

• 0:42Speaker 01

  Couple of years.

• 0:43Andy Frisella?

  Yeah, about getting you on the show.

• 0:44Speaker 01

  Glad to get you here, thanks for having me.

• 0:46Andy Frisella?

  Yeah, bro, it's awesome to have you. So, before we even get into the show.

• 0:51Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 0:52Andy Frisella?

  Kinda like, bring people up to speed on where you're at and what you're trying to do and how you kinda got here.

• 0:58Speaker 01

  Um, man, what a story. I mean, I'm born and raised in Minnesota, um, generation, five generations on either side. My mother's father's side and mother's side. I come from a unique heritage in that my mother's mother is half-black, half-Norwegian. Her mom was, uh, my grandmother's mom was a first-generation immigrant from Norway.

• 1:21Andy Frisella?

  That's where you got all that height from, bro.

• 1:22Speaker 01

  There you go.

• 1:23Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 1:23Speaker 01

  No doubt.

• 1:24Andy Frisella?

  What are you, 6'8"?

• 1:24Speaker 01

  6'8".

• 1:25Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 1:25Speaker 01

  And some change, you know, and some change.

• 1:27Andy Frisella?

  Yeah. He's 6'9".

• 1:33Speaker 01

  Actually, Charles Oakley always jokes to me every time I see him, he goes, "You're 6'7", "You're 6'7".

• 1:39Speaker 01

  I love Charles Oakley, shout out to him, but no, my mom's father, uh, was, is half-black and half-Mexican. His, his mother was a first-generation immigrant.

• 1:47Andy Frisella?

  That's why you're not 6'9".

• 1:48Speaker 01

  That's exactly right.

• 1:51Speaker 01

  That's right.

• 1:52Andy Frisella?

  Gotcha.

• 1:54Speaker 01

  Alright, right, interesting, we'll talk about illegal immigrants.

• 2:00Speaker 01

  But, no man, I mean, I'm born and raised in Minnesota, um... Started off as professional athlete, obviously excelled at basketball. I played all sports when I was young though, basketball, football, baseball, even a little bit of soccer. And you know, basketball took off for me around high school. Became an All-American, then I became an All-American in college. Went to University of Minnesota, got in some trouble. Young years, staying at home, best player, arguably one of the best players in the history of high school basketball in Minnesota. So it came with a lot of, a lot of attention.

• 2:34Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 2:34Speaker 01

  Lot of scrutiny.

• 2:35Andy Frisella?

  Yep.

• 2:35Speaker 01

  Lot of friends, lot of trouble.

• 2:38Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 2:38Speaker 01

  When you're 18.

• 2:39Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 2:39Speaker 01

  Especially staying at home.

• 2:40Andy Frisella?

  Yeah, bro.

• 2:41Speaker 01

  And I ended up making it through that. I always tell people, I could have easily not survived that time in my life.

• 2:47Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 2:48Speaker 01

  Taught me a lot. And I went on to transfer to Iowa State, played under Fred Hoiberg. You can go Cyclones, they're doing great right now. And I was a part of turning that program around. When I got there, they hadn't been to an NCAA tournament in seven years. And we made it back to the tournament for the first time. I was an All-American there for one season, got drafted. Had a huge blow up, blow out fight with the NBA about their mental health policy. And I just tell that story briefly because I think it is the best backdrop for my political career. Yeah, when I first got, well, first of all, I was diagnosed with generalized anxiety when I was 16.

• 3:31Speaker 01

  First and only time I ever smoked weed, I had a massive panic attack. And then I would have subsequent panic attacks for like three months straight, three times a day. And they all hit at the exact same time every day.

• 3:42Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 3:42Speaker 01

  And you know, when you're 16.

• 3:43Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 3:44Speaker 01

  And you got a single mother, you barely have good health coverage. You don't get good checkups every year.

• 3:49Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 3:50Speaker 01

  And you start feeling like you're having a heart attack.

• 3:52Andy Frisella?

  Most people don't know, anxiety attack gets thrown around a lot now. Most people don't know what a real anxiety attack is.

• 3:58Speaker 01

  No, I mean, this is full blown blurry vision.

• 4:01Andy Frisella?

  Can't breathe.

• 4:02Speaker 01

  Heart check, you know, where you go to the ER and they say, we're gonna have to draw some blood to make sure you're not having a heart attack.

• 4:07Andy Frisella?

  Right.

• 4:08Speaker 01

  Because all the markers are bouncing.

• 4:09Andy Frisella?

  Right.

• 4:10Speaker 01

  So I went through that, I was diagnosed with anxiety in high school. And somehow I was able to still be an All-American athlete. Basketball court was a place where I kind of zoned out and the anxiety just went away.

• 4:23Andy Frisella?

  Mm-hmm.

• 4:24Speaker 01

  And once I got to college.

• 4:28Speaker 01

  At Iowa State, we were doing well. We were picked to be last in the Big 12. We end up finishing top three in my one season. And I got a lot of media attention for that. ESPN writers would come in and interview me and they ask you, what's your routine? And I told them my routine for the, you know, pre-game routine. And I ended up letting it slip that I didn't eat on the days of games. And I said, because of my anxiety. And the reporter's like, huh? What do you mean? Because of your anxiety? You can't just skip over that. So I went and I explained it to him and it became a front page headline that year. What year was this? This was in 2012. Okay.

• 5:07Speaker 01

  Okay, so as I went through the season and we were successful and my draft stock started to rise, every year there's questions about a prospect's profile. Right. Okay, he's got the skills and the attributes. He's versatile. He's a good team player. He's an excellent passer. He can do a little bit of everything. They, you know, some of the commentators like called me a Swiss Army knife, right? Because I just did a little bit of everything. I was six foot eight, I'm 260, but I play the one on offense. Yeah. And I guard the centers on defense. Unique. Yeah. Hybrid, you know, kind of, kind of, kind of player. And so, okay, well, where's his NBA draft stock going to be? Well, his anxiety is a huge question mark. Do we consider anxiety

• 5:51Speaker 01

  a genuine health issue? Or do we consider the character flaw? This was the question that was... Yeah, and this is before mental health became mainstream. Oh, this, this was what kind of sent mental health mainstream in a sense because it was the first time that the NBA or professional sports across the board had to answer questions about their mental health policy. So then I get drafted to the NBA. And I'm at this thing called the Rookie Transition Program. They have it in Hoboken, New Jersey every year. And it's basically a seminar where they bring all the incoming rookies in and they teach you about finance and, you know, attorneys and watch out for the girls. Yeah. You know, he's just trying to trap you, get you pregnant, get pregnant and all the whole night. Watch out for your family. Even your own mother may be stealing from you. You

• 6:34Speaker 01

  got to be careful. You know, here's an agent, here's a financial guy, and you're on your way, right? Yeah. So I'm there and I'm reading, I'm probably... So you find out those guys are the biggest ones. Then you, yeah. That's another story. You learn that quick. Yeah, you learn that quick. So I go back to my hotel room and I read and I'm listening to all these stories. And one of them really stuck out to me is a guy by the name of Chris Heron, who... Was addicted to heroin, very good player. I believe he went to, I believe he went to St. John's, but it might have been, might have been, uh, Boston, it might be Boston College, but one of those, Boston College or St. John's. Anyway, people who know basketball know Chris Heron. Anyway, you know, his story was that he was severely addicted to drugs.

• 7:16Speaker 01

  So they bring him in to speak to us and I'm listening to him talk about leaving the game at halftime to go score smack on the streets in New York City. And I'm sitting there and, and not the drugs part because obviously I was adverse to drug use in my first, you know, bout with marijuana. I just, you know, ne- never had drugs around me as a kid. And unfortunately for me, the marijuana turned me off to drugs altogether. So drugs wasn't a part of it, but the feelings and the things that he was talking about resonated with me. So I'm sitting there, I go back and I look at my collective bargaining agreement and there wasn't a single mention of mental health in the entire document. But there was a banned substance list. Coincidentally, I'm prescribed one of the drugs that's on the banned substance list.

• 8:00Speaker 01

  So I'm asking the, the NBA and the team now, okay, you know, what's, what is this? I mean, how do you guys look at me being prescribed Xanax by, uh, you know, um, when needed, as necessary for panic attacks? Am I considered like, uh, you know, a, a risk? For the organization, to the, to the NBA?

• 8:20Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 8:21Speaker 01

  No answers, crickets. Well, we don't know. It's a unique situation. We've never had a player who was public about his anxiety ahead of time.

• 8:29Andy Frisella?

  Well, lucky you.

• 8:30Speaker 01

  I saw, you know, and the first one through the door usually gets, what, shot?

• 8:34Andy Frisella?

  That's right.

• 8:34Speaker 01

  You know, and that, so that's kind of what happened there. And subsequently, you know, two years after I went through a big public bout with them about this mental health policy, they would end up putting a mental health policy in place. Kevin Love came out and was talking about-

• 8:48Andy Frisella?

  Bro, I think I remember, I think I remember this.

• 8:51Speaker 01

  Yeah, Kevin Love, it was Kevin Love and DeMar DeRozan were the next ones through the door. And obviously much more accomplished players because they had already been in the league. And Kevin Love was a hundred million dollars already at the time. And, uh- After them, it was just a, a, a, you know, a watershed moment for the, for all the professional sports. And I, and you know, part of me was like, I'm, I'm thankful that I was kind of a trailblazer, but I'm also regretful. Cause I had no idea that the mental health conversation was gonna be weaponized by the woke left the way it is now.

• 9:25Andy Frisella?

  Right.

• 9:26Speaker 01

  I, I didn't, at 21, you don't, you don't realize, oh, they got plans for this topic.

• 9:30Andy Frisella?

  Right.

• 9:31Speaker 01

  You know, it, it goes from genuine anxiety, uh, depression, uh, let's say drug abuse, right? Drug and alcohol abuse, or even PTSD, like with some of our troops, cops.

• 9:42Andy Frisella?

  Right.

• 9:43Speaker 01

  Players, young black men that come from the ghetto, where people are shooting each other every day.

• 9:48Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 9:49Speaker 01

  Uh, and now all of a sudden, it's, if we don't let this person cut their penis off, then, then.

• 9:55Andy Frisella?

  Mental health.

• 9:55Speaker 01

  We're harming their mental health. That was not the mental health movement I was.

• 10:00Andy Frisella?

  That's cause it ain't, it's not, it's not the same thing.

• 10:02Speaker 01

  It's not, right, right. I mean, and, and that shift came after I was already out of the league and off of the main stage.

• 10:08Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 10:09Speaker 01

  And, and I just say that because.

• 10:10Andy Frisella?

  This is interesting you're bringing this up, because I watched this happen.

• 10:14Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 10:14Andy Frisella?

  Like I, like I've always been paying attention.

• 10:17Speaker 01

  Cause you're a fitness dude, I'm sure you, you know.

• 10:18Andy Frisella?

  Yeah, dude, and, and by the way, I've had my struggles with it.

• 10:21Speaker 01

  Everybody.

• 10:22Andy Frisella?

  Like real shit, okay? And, uh, it's to someone who's actually struggled with these things in a real way. It's insulting to watch everybody else fucking talk about it when it's being used as a, as a shield.

• 10:36Speaker 01

  Snowflaking.

• 10:36Andy Frisella?

  Right, exactly.

• 10:37Speaker 01

  Yeah, no, and so.

• 10:41Speaker 01

  I, I only tell people that story in the beginning because a lot of people will, um, ask, you know, well, what, what makes you qualified? It's to run for office at, at 34 years old, you know, what have you done? It's like, I fought one of the biggest and most influential organizations in the entire world, in the history of human civilization, and I was vindicated. I was found to be right. And then I experienced them weaponize something that I sacrificed.

• 11:08Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 11:08Speaker 01

  A career for, because I did end up being blackballed for that.

• 11:11Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 11:11Speaker 01

  Right? I mean, they were like, and they told me straight out, they were like, look. You got two doors. You can shut your mouth, go along with the program, make you some money, be a great player that we know you're gonna be because you're skilled as hell. And we will help you be a, a, a trailblazer. We will help you with become the face of this mental health conversation. And I just told them, no. Yeah. On, on the, from the outset, I'm like, it, it sounds like a payoff. It, it sounds like you're trying to, you just can't pay to shut me up. Yeah. On, on principle. Yeah. Why do they want to shut you up? Well, because it, it, it, it threw, well, this is interesting, again, apropos to me

• 11:53Speaker 01

  running for office. You've got to understand, the NBA and professional sports is a watering hole for a global corporate community. And industry and corporations have done great things for civilization. You, you run a great company yourself, I'm, I'm learning. Uh, so I'm not anti-company, I'm certainly not anti-capitalist, that would make me a communist. Right. And, and we're advently anti-communist around Right. the America First MAGA camp. But there are severe issues with the culture of corporate America and the global corporate community. And one of them is, when you, when you, one of them, how do I say this? Say it another way. Uh, the, the greatest trick that Karl

• 12:38Speaker 01

  Marx and the communists played on the world was to pinpoint that in an industrialized world, eventually everything does come down to price, unless you have people like this guy, which I respect, who does business with some sacred honor. Mm-hmm. It's just like having a country without God. Yeah. If you have a business without sacred honor, Yeah. everything gets reduced down to price. Yeah. And the Chinese will beat us. Yeah. If it gets reduced down. Yeah. Not just the Chinese, but Marxists. Yeah. Marxists will win in a game of radical materialism that, where the human condition is reduced to price. So what I was saying is, using the mental health as a interface for that consideration, I'm like, okay, you, you know, you guys have basketball players

• 13:20Speaker 01

  here, professional athletes, it only benefits them if we talk openly about what people struggle with in their mind. Mm-hmm. And the mind, ironically, is a gateway to the spirit. Mm-hmm. I tell people all the time, it's, St. Thomas Aquinas is a very, uh, probably, in my opinion, the greatest Catholic theologian of all time. He said that the intellect and the spirit are inextricably linked. That the two go hand in hand. This is a very Catholic perspective on theology is like.

• 13:55Speaker 01

  The intellect and the spirit are inextricably linked. You don't have one without the other. In fact, the more you develop the intellect, which the Bible is a guide for. The more fruitful spiritual life you will have and the better connection you will have to God. Right? And so. That starts with your psychology, your mental health. It is your mental health, your mind. Starts with education as well, and you can form people up the right way. But mental health is another way to say the human condition.

• 14:21Andy Frisella?

  Right.

• 14:22Speaker 01

  And a person's psychology. So when I brought that to the NBA, which is a representative of almost every industry in the world. They were like, you think we want to have that conversation, dude?

• 14:32Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 14:32Speaker 01

  We are about to, we are about to launch. The greatest propaganda machine in the history of known. Civilization. Social media. See, this was pre, remember 2012, social media was just getting.

• 14:46Andy Frisella?

  Yeah, dude, it was, it was, I'm connected to the person I went to high school with. I've never seen in 20 years.

• 14:53Speaker 01

  That was pretty much it. Yeah. Remember when you, remember when you needed a college email?

• 14:57Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 14:57Speaker 01

  To be on Facebook?

• 14:58Andy Frisella?

  That's right.

• 14:59Speaker 01

  Okay, that was oh nine.

• 15:00Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 15:00Speaker 01

  We're talking three years later.

• 15:01Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 15:02Speaker 01

  So social media didn't even get its pants on yet, right? But these people knew. What the plans were because they were the early investors. They had already read the white papers. They knew what was gonna, they knew what they were gonna push. They wanted to keep the mental conversation in a, in a very controlled. Sort of narrative.

• 15:20Andy Frisella?

  Right.

• 15:20Speaker 01

  So that people wouldn't ask too many questions about the broader implications of dopamine. Uh, addiction, game theory, uh, you know, casino theory on social media. It's like when you're sitting at your social media scroll, your feed.

• 15:35Andy Frisella?

  Yeah, they don't want the corruption, they don't want their, their nefarious design to be exposed.

• 15:40Speaker 01

  That's right.

• 15:41Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 15:41Speaker 01

  That's, and so talking about mental health.

• 15:43Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 15:44Speaker 01

  Was a, was a precursor, you know, for, for uncovering that. And it still is. It still is a canary in the coal mine. And if you, if you track it forward, and this is why I say, you know, why I'm running for office. And I got blackballed because of this conversation and this ended up being the real canary in the coal mine. But even if I had shut my mouth on that. If it was China, if it was the COVID vaccine, if it was the LGBTQ, I was getting blackballed on all those issues too.

• 16:09Andy Frisella?

  Yeah, cuz you're not the kind of dude that's gonna.

• 16:11Speaker 01

  That's right. I would have, oh, fuck you. No China. Fuck you. No LGBTQ. Fuck you. No COVID vaccines.

• 16:18Andy Frisella?

  Right.

• 16:19Speaker 01

  So I, at every, so I look back at, at, and I, and it hurts me sometimes cuz I dedicated my life to basketball. I love the game. I mean, I really, I'm a purist.

• 16:26Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 16:26Speaker 01

  I love the game at a, at an intimate level. You know what I mean?

• 16:29Andy Frisella?

  Yeah, man. You dedicate your whole life to it.

• 16:31Speaker 01

  Yeah, but.

• 16:32Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 16:33Speaker 01

  But I'm, I'm thankful to God that I, that he tapped me on the shoulder and said, I got a bigger plan for you.

• 16:39Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 16:39Speaker 01

  You know, and, and then now, that brings us up to 2020. I'm in Minnesota, just come back from Canada, London, Ontario. I was playing professionally there for two years. Won there, won two championships. I was, uh, you know, the MVP my first season, broke the triple double record. The second season, uh, I was the runner up for MVP, but I was the scoring leader. And, uh, during this time is when Jordan Peterson went through his Bill C16 controversy in Toronto.

• 17:11Speaker 01

  And now I'm sitting, I'm watching this on local Canadian television at my house in London. I'm on TV, I'm, I'm on, in my room one morning and I'm just watching local television, you know, at the news channel, and I see this dude, Jordan Peterson. And he comes on and he's kinda spraggly looking. He's got a weird little voice and, and, and this, and these, these people, these hosts, they just started attacking him about this transgender thing. I didn't even know what it meant. Wherever I was, under a rock, playing basketball for all these years of my life, I had no fucking clue what transgender even meant. At, at 24 years old, had no clue. But I'm listening now and, and I, I, I walked away from it thinking, I fucking like this dude, Jordan Peterson.

• 17:52Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 17:52Speaker 01

  He's logical, concise, brilliant, very articulate.

• 17:58Speaker 01

  And I don't understand what they're accusing him of exactly. So then I started listening to Jordan Peterson. I went back and I was listening to some of his lectures. And then I watched him go through this fight with the people there in Canada. And what I ended up thinking was I'm getting the fuck out of Canada. And I did. I went back to Minnesota. Lucky you're scared. I'm getting the fuck out of here. I don't know what these Canadians are up to. But this guy looks like one of the smartest people I think I've ever seen. And they look like they want to string him up on a cross. I'm getting out of this place. Yeah. Right? Yeah. But it introduced me to a political conversation that was far, far different than what I had been involved with, with the NBA. Same, same, but different. Right?

• 18:38Speaker 01

  And so I get back to Minnesota and I go to play in the Big Three, 2019. And in 2019, I gotta be honest, I'm kind of pissed what I experienced with Jordan Peterson. Cause I'm like, I'm a big guy on fairness. Yeah. And they weren't being fair to him. I mean, clearly, there was no sacred honor in the way they were attacking him. Right. And it's a herald, like, for all of us, like, I'm gonna be next. And that is kind of the heresy of democracy and the danger of mob rule. So I go to Big Three, I'm pissed. I'm wearing shirts, you know, Free the Uyghurs, you know, every political, Edward Snowden, you know, the whole panoply of what they would call red-pilled conspiracy theories. I'm just throwing them out there.

• 19:23Speaker 01

  Yeah, so you're a fucking problem. Yeah, oh, so, but, you know, Ice Cube and Jeff Quatnitz were cool. Yeah, Cube's with it. Cube was all, he was always supportive. He's like, man, do your thing. Yeah. I'm with you, I support you, we love you, whatever you want to say, man, this, what this league is for you guys, the players. And his partner, Jeff Quatnitz, who became a really good friend of mine, Jewish cat, you know, graduated at Harvard in Obama's class, always been at the center of controversy because of the stuff Ice Cube has said. And Jeff defends him. He's like, no, this guy's not anti-Semitic. This dude is my partner. Yeah. And, and he can say what he wants, freedom of speech, just like anybody else, right? Anyway, I tell you that because Jeff ends up introducing me to Bannon.

• 20:07Speaker 01

  Him and Bannon were partners, former partners in a company. And, uh, once me and Bannon got hooked up, it was like, well, first, 2020 happens. So I'm in the Big Three, I'm saying all these political issues, boom, George Floyd dies. Inflection point.

• 20:23Andy Frisella?

  I think that's where I first started following your stuff.

• 20:25Speaker 01

  You know, inflection point for American history.

• 20:31Speaker 01

  I'm sitting at home and this video goes viral. Everybody's watching it.

• 20:38Speaker 01

  And all of a sudden, I start seeing these people pop up and talk about it.

• 20:43Speaker 01

  People I've never seen before. Remember, I grew up, born and raised in Minnesota, in the hood, right? In the neighborhood, St. Paul, Minneapolis, the whole Twin City metro area, all those neighborhoods you see now on the, you know, on the news where black people live. I grew up there. And I was raised by a single mom with a big extended family, so I kinda grew up around the entire metro area.

• 21:03Andy Frisella?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 21:05Speaker 01

  So I'm watching this and these talking heads are popping up, these black people who I've never seen before. Never seen them at any wakes, never seen them at any weddings, never saw them at the after-school program. They didn't play basketball with us. They weren't in the neighborhood, ding dong ditching. They weren't around in Halloween. You know, I saw, I'm like, who the fuck are these people?

• 21:23Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 21:24Speaker 01

  And who are you to come in here and talk on my behalf?

• 21:27Andy Frisella?

  Yeah, bro, we saw that shit during Mike Brown here in St. Louis. Yeah, that's where it started.

• 21:31Speaker 01

  This shit pissed me off. No, it really pissed me off. So being the crazy, you know, brash, smash mouth motherfucker I am.

• 21:39Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 21:39Speaker 01

  I'm just like, I'm putting my suit, I'm at the house, I'm putting my suit on. And then I get a call from Stephen Jackson, who was related to George Floyd, you know, they were friends, but you know, his family to him, and he was like, I'm coming to Minnesota. I'm like, soon as you get here.

• 21:52Andy Frisella?

  Tell me about Stephen Jackson.

• 21:54Speaker 01

  Stephen Jackson from.

• 21:55Andy Frisella?

  The Rams?

• 21:56Speaker 01

  No, from the big three, well, from All the Smoke.

• 21:58Andy Frisella?

  Yeah, oh, okay.

• 21:59Speaker 01

  Stephen Jackson.

• 22:00Andy Frisella?

  Yeah, I got it.

• 22:01Speaker 01

  Okay, yeah, Matt Barnes is co-host. Okay, so, and we played in the big three together. So when he came to Minnesota, I said, look, I got you. You know, when you come, I'm with you. Because whether I agree with your politics or not, or whatever you think, a friend of yours just died. And you're coming to my state and my city, I'm gonna be supportive of you.

• 22:20Andy Frisella?

  Right.

• 22:21Speaker 01

  You know what I mean? I'm gonna be there with you. Okay, along the way, I'm also gonna educate people on some things. Cause I don't know any of these leaders. Yeah. But we're gonna talk, we're gonna get this shit organized real, uh, cause I don't, I wasn't there, remember? When I got drafted was when Trayvon Martin first died. Mm-hmm. So the whole kick up and, and, and spin up of BLM happened while I was playing in the NBA and then fighting the NBA about mental health policy. Completely disconnected from the whole race BLM conversation. I watched it, I saw some of it, but along the way, I just chimed in like, hey, it's not all on the cops, not all on the citizens. You gotta be reasonable about this shit. Till the George, till the George Floyd thing popped up. And then I'm like, oh, okay, so wait a minute. So you mean to tell me these people been here the whole time?

• 23:07Speaker 01

  Doing the activists? Oh, hell no. Right. So I go to the front line and I organize this demonstration.

• 23:14Speaker 01

  I bring about 5,000 people to the front door of the Federal Reserve. Yeah, that's the, the first, the first March protest we did, we're on our way to the, we, we started at US Bank Stadium, we walked through the streets. Everybody's like, we must be going to the first police precinct. No, no, no, we're not going to the first precinct. The Federal Reserve's right around the corner. I'm bringing you guys, you said the whole system is guilty. I'm gonna show you how guilty the system is. I'm gonna bring you to the doorstep of one of the most corrupt institutions in the country, in the world. Central fractional reserve banking. Unconstitutional tax, inflation. Let me tell you how the system works economically. Let me talk to you about monetary policy. Cause people are looking at me like I had three eyes. Oh, yeah.

• 24:00Speaker 01

  And, and I'm like, good, I like that. Now we're getting somewhere. Yeah, when you let people blame the cops for all your problems, I know you either aren't serious about your problems. Or you're uneducated. Or you're getting paid. Yeah. Or you're getting, yeah, or you're getting paid. So, so anyway, when I was out there and, and I was talking to people about corporatocracy and monetary policy and the Fed, all of a sudden. The LGBTQ activists of the city didn't like that me and some of my black friends, men, heterosexual. That's what I was saying. Oh, yeah. No, they didn't like that. Well, they didn't like that we were doing our own protests and weren't coordinating with them. Right. Then this really pissed me off. I almost slapped the shit out of somebody.

• 24:43Speaker 01

  Seriously. No, seriously, this pissed me off. There was a young girl who came out and she sang the national anthem. Beautiful young girl, name is Jackie, Jackie Blue. She has a few songs on iTunes. You can go look it up. Anyway, she came out to sing just to, you know, be, you know, inspirational, right? Yeah. So it caught on and we started to have her sing. Every time I go to the Fed or do one of these things where I'm trying to, we'd bring her. All of a sudden, I get a call from this LGBTQ organization and they asked me, is she gay or straight? And I'm looking at my phone. I said, I said, excuse me? They're like, well, we just want to know our, you know, our, uh, are the LGBTQ people getting a fair chance to be represented and perform and sing?

• 25:27Speaker 01

  Like it's a fucking talent show. Like what fucking difference does it make? I said, first of all, if I, even if, first of all, this is a grassroots, completely organic. Me and a few of my basketball friends and some other black men in the community that I grew up with decided that the city's burning down. We need to do something that's, uh, stabilizing. In turn, we're, we're not gonna let these young white kids that are dressing up in all black dictate the energy of what's going on here in the Twin Cities. If people want to protest, I'm all for it. No matter what your views are, actually, because I believe in the right to protest. But if we're gonna protest, let's actually get to the heart of the problems. I'm gonna bring you here and you're gonna bow your heads and pray. And guess what?

• 26:08Speaker 01

  The beautiful part of the whole thing was about 10 times, I got about 10,000 what would be atheists to bow their heads while we prayed. That's awesome. I don't know who they were praying to, but I was praying to Jesus Christ and they, they were respectful. Yeah. Because when you get real strong male leadership, you'd be surprised how some of these Satanists will back down. Oh, yeah. Right? Yeah. So anyway, I get this call. They can't have that, bro. That's why they, that's why they've intentionally made men weak. That's a hundred percent correct. So I get this call and this what they were trying to do to me. They were trying to punk me. Passive aggressively and in secret, not out in the front when we're at the Fed and say, you know what, we want to be at the police precinct because economic and monetary policy will point us to the leaders of the Democrat Party that are funding us being out here. I didn't know that at the time. Yeah. Because I'm not in that little community. Right.

• 26:53Speaker 01

  I don't know the verticals coming down from, from George Soros and those people on high, all the way down to your, your, your average local activists. Right. Now, the person who shows up in the street, who gets high and fucks on the weekends, they don't know about the whole webbing of how the money flows. No. They just have their heartstrings pulled by a George Floyd video, right? So I get this fucking call and, and, and they're like, who's she, who is she, you know, having, you know, who's she with? Is she a lesbian or straight or bi or what? And I said, even if this was an actual organization or corporation, it would be illegal, it would be discriminatory for me to ask her. Right. What her sexuality is. You're actually asking me to discriminate against her. Yeah. Now you're asking, I said, so first of all, it's none of your fucking business, who she's having sex with.

• 27:37Speaker 01

  I don't know, but if I did know, I wouldn't tell you. And if you show up to my protest, I'm going to slap the fucking teeth out of your mouth for even asking. Yeah. And, and, and, and, oh, the backlash was heavy. Yeah. Then it was Royce is homophobic. Yeah. I said, oh, great, let's do it. Yeah. I just saw Jordan Peterson go through this, I'm prepped. Yeah. I love this, let's fucking do it. And I didn't back down, so then they tried to push me out. You know, the Washington Post was like, Royce White, a towering figure for local Minneapolis activism, till they figured out I was at the Fed, then I was homophobic. And then I said, okay, you guys want to play this game? I'm running for Congress on the Republican side. Ultra MAGA. Yeah. America first, this LGBTQ shit is out of control, I'm not going to watch a black

• 28:19Speaker 01

  man die and you act like you're, you're out here protesting on his behalf. And as soon as we get in the street, you say black trans lives matter. I don't even know what transgender is. Yeah. And if you want to have a transgender protest, you're an American citizen. Yeah. But don't blend that shit with us. That's right. Don't blend that shit with me and don't speak on behalf of blacks. So that brought me up to 2022, I ran for Congress, uh, tried to run against Ilhan Omar, I was, uh, I lost an endorsement in a convention by about 40 votes, went to primary, lost the primary by 900 votes. Let me tell you a story about Minneapolis, this is how bad Minneapolis is. Minneapolis Republicans, we're going to talk about Republicans today. Yeah.

• 28:57Andy Frisella?

  Listen, bro, I'm not affiliated with either, so.

• 28:59Speaker 01

  How soft.

• 29:00Andy Frisella?

  Say whatever the fuck you want.

• 29:01Speaker 01

  How, how soft belly these Republicans are makes me sick.

• 29:06Speaker 01

  And I never knew them growing up because they're so weak.

• 29:09Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 29:10Speaker 01

  They don't want, they, they don't have the stones to bring representation into the city. But then they talk about needing to swing these votes. So I never saw, I never even met a person who was actually affiliated with the Republican Party. My entire life until I decided to run.

• 29:23Andy Frisella?

  Mm hmm.

• 29:24Speaker 01

  Right?

• 29:24Andy Frisella?

  Mm hmm.

• 29:25Speaker 01

  Running in CD5, this is Ilhan Omar's district.

• 29:27Andy Frisella?

  Mm hmm.

• 29:28Speaker 01

  There were only, there were only 10,000 2022 midterm Republican voters in the entire primary. 10,000. Now, to, to, to help you understand that the gravity of that. In the general, there were about 230,000 Republican, uh, uh, primary voters. So they just decided in the, in the, in the, in the primary, they're just not gonna show up. In the general, there were 220,000. In the primary, there were only 10,000. 10,000 of 220? Show up to the primary? Means you guys aren't even involved in politics.

• 30:03Andy Frisella?

  They don't know politics. They don't, they don't, they don't understand, dude. People don't understand, the general, the general public does not understand the importance of community primaries.

• 30:15Speaker 01

  Correct.

• 30:15Andy Frisella?

  And the grassroots, uh, elections that happen.

• 30:18Speaker 01

  Correct.

• 30:18Andy Frisella?

  They just don't understand it.

• 30:19Speaker 01

  So I mean, I lost by 800 votes. And everybody said, dude, you gotta go for a smaller office.

• 30:27Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 30:27Speaker 01

  You gotta run for city council or run for mayor, that'd be great. You know, you, you're really articulate. We need somebody on the Republican side to run for mayor against Jacob Fry. I said, fuck you. I'm going up.

• 30:37Andy Frisella?

  Mm hmm.

• 30:38Speaker 01

  I'm running statewide because I don't like the sample size. I think these, the fact that only 10,000 of you showed up for the primary tells me you guys aren't serious. I wanna go up. Let's see, let's see what the statewide Minnesota Republican Party thinks. So I decided to run for senate in 24 against Klobuchar. Win a statewide endorsement, then win a statewide primary against the entire Republican establishment.

• 31:02Speaker 01

  I cannot tell you from Minnesota and Minneapolis, all the way to Washington DC, I had every Republican vertical lined up against me and I still beat them in a primary. Shot heard around the world. Cause what is said for the first time is, a nationalist populist conspiracy theorist.

• 31:25Speaker 02

  That's what they call you.

• 31:26Speaker 01

  A nationalist populist conspiracy theorist could win a primary election with no funding, no support from the local establishment or the national establishment and I didn't even have an endorsement from President Trump. Now President Trump stayed out of my primary, which was helpful. He didn't endorse my opponent, which I'm sure they were lobbying hard for him to do. But he was wise enough to say nah, this young kid Royce, something's up here. Yeah, I'm not, right? Plus Bannon endorsed me and a lot of the other MAGA wing of the Republican Party like Kerry Lake and you know, some of these people like that. So, he stayed out of my, out of my race. But Norm Coleman, head of the RJC, the Republican Jewish Coalition, Rudy Boshewitz, Senator,

• 32:08Speaker 01

  former US Senator, very heavy Israel himself. Tim Pawlenty, last Republican to win a statewide race, one governor's race, didn't do shit for conservatives, certainly can't be considered America first. All these people endorsed my primary opponent after I won an endorsement. Now let me tell, how these endorsements work are, you go to statewide convention, about 2,000 delegates of the Minnesota Republican Party are there. They're gonna vote, who they're gonna endorse is the candidate and then the party is supposed to consolidate around that candidate and support them going into the general election. You're not even supposed to face a primary, in theory, once you've been endorsed. Especially when you've been endorsed at an overwhelming 68% on the first ballot.

• 32:53Speaker 01

  I was endorsed with 68% of the delegate vote on the first ballot. There wasn't even a second ballot. Most of these conventions go into third, fourth runoff ballots.

• 33:03Speaker 01

  The establishment still endorsed my opponent spit right in the face of all the Republican delegates in Minnesota and they weren't even shy about it. So it's been a war since then. I, I lost the election to Amy on paper. You know, there's rumors that she was smurfing, the, the machines still aren't secure. We don't know what's really going on, but on paper, I got more votes than any other Republican US senate candidate in the history of the Minnesota Republican Party, except Jason Lewis. Um, and I'm running again in 26. I won't stop until we, until we crack the dam, until we crack the levy. That's the story. Yeah. I don't know. How long was that? 15 minutes?

• 33:41Andy Frisella?

  No, no, that's, that's good, bro. Because I think it's very important for people to hear that it's possible for someone to run without the endorsement or the financial backing that these candidates are traditionally getting. It's very, very important because one of the biggest things that people will say is, well, what the fuck should we do? Brother, where do you live? Get involved. Stand up. Organize your people. There's no reason. And, and, and to be honest, I think that most people are coming to the realization that they need to elect candidates that are not bankrolled by the typical bankrolling procedures.

• 34:26Speaker 01

  Right.

• 34:27Andy Frisella?

  You know, and so we, we got it. I think people, it's important that they hear that from you. So.

• 34:33Speaker 02

  I think it's funny. They still call you a conspiracy theorist.

• 34:35Speaker 01

  Yeah, of course I am. I am.

• 34:37Andy Frisella?

  Yeah, yeah. Michael, you say these are the types of candidates America needs. They're not bought and paid for. Brother, that's you too. That's you.

• 34:45Speaker 01

  That's right.

• 34:46Andy Frisella?

  That's you guys. There's plenty of people in this, in this chat here and listening to the show that you're waiting for someone to tell you or approve you. This is no different than in your business. Nobody's coming to say, hey, man, fucking grow that business. You got what it takes. You know, it's you. Anyway.

• 35:04Speaker 01

  Number one issue. Number one issue in this country. Special interests and lobbies.

• 35:09Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 35:10Speaker 01

  Special interests and lobby money.

• 35:11Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 35:12Speaker 01

  All these politicians, for the most part, are bought and paid for.

• 35:15Andy Frisella?

  Absolutely.

• 35:15Speaker 01

  And we all know it. We know what the problem is.

• 35:17Andy Frisella?

  It's just a matter of to whom and how much.

• 35:19Speaker 01

  That's right.

• 35:20Andy Frisella?

  Yeah, 100% dude. So how's the campaign going so far for you?

• 35:24Speaker 01

  It's a dogfight, man. It's a fucking dogfight because, you know, money does play, right? I mean, money, money plays. There's a lot of people, I said this early on X, you know, we have an epidemic of selling out. People have a price.

• 35:40Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 35:40Speaker 01

  And we say we don't want these candidates to sell out, but then we expect them to. A part of us expects a candidate to sell out.

• 35:48Andy Frisella?

  Right.

• 35:48Speaker 01

  Because we, in our head, we think, well, in order for them to even make it.

• 35:52Andy Frisella?

  There's no way.

• 35:53Speaker 01

  They're gonna need a lot of money.

• 35:54Andy Frisella?

  Right.

• 35:54Speaker 01

  Okay, who do you, who do people think you could go to? The conventional wisdom about a United States Senate race is that you need 20 to 30 million dollars to even be competitive. Who do people think you go to to get 20 or 30 million dollars without selling a piece of your soul or this country?

• 36:12Andy Frisella?

  The people who buy souls.

• 36:13Speaker 01

  The people who buy souls. It's not rocket science.

• 36:16Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 36:16Speaker 01

  And I, and I've had them knock on my door. I had them call me. I've had them say, hey, don't talk about this. Don't talk about that and we'll support you. And I tell them all, go fuck yourself.

• 36:24Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 36:25Speaker 01

  And that makes it really hard to run a campaign, but the sacred honor helps me sleep at night.

• 36:30Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 36:30Speaker 01

  And, and if we're ever gonna turn this country around, that's what we need. And, and I only tell that whole story. I didn't mean to, to, to carry on, but from the time I was 21 years old in the NBA, up until my last campaign against Amy Klobuchar, it's the same people.

• 36:47Andy Frisella?

  Mm-hmm.

• 36:48Speaker 01

  No, no, seriously.

• 36:49Andy Frisella?

  No, I get it.

• 36:49Speaker 01

  It's the exact same group of special interests and lobbies.

• 36:54Andy Frisella?

  It's been going on for decades, bro.

• 36:55Speaker 01

  Both sides of the aisle too.

• 36:56Andy Frisella?

  Oh, yeah.

• 36:56Speaker 01

  Both sides of the aisle.

• 36:57Andy Frisella?

  No one can get in unless you are part of the club. On either side.

• 37:03Speaker 01

  Right.

• 37:04Andy Frisella?

  So.

• 37:04Speaker 02

  Dude, nobody even talks about like the shit that happens once you do get in. You know what I'm saying? Like, once you do get that candidacy, you know, let's say you did raise 20 million in your campaign, right? Well, now you want to get on a committee. Well, those committee seats cost. How are you paying for them? Those are millions of dollars. How are you paying for that? Well, now I gotta go back to this special interest and lobby group again.

• 37:23Andy Frisella?

  Look, dude, people gotta real, people gotta stop, they have to detach their party identities. They have to stop identifying as Democrat or Republican. Like dude, if you just took Republican or Democrat off of the fucking thing and said, this is what this person stands for. This is what this person and put their policy on there. We'd have a much easier time getting people elected that should be elected.

• 37:46Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 37:46Andy Frisella?

  But we all fall into the propaganda and the way the machine is designed. And it's designed around tribalism, around getting people to attach to their favorite team. No different than, you know, who was in the Super Bowl? Oh, Seahawks or Patriots? Same shit. And we, the American people, have to get back to a time where we are electing people on policy, not on popularity, or if they're our representative or our team, right?

• 38:17Speaker 01

  Right.

• 38:18Andy Frisella?

  And that's what's destroying this country. That's really what it is.

• 38:20Speaker 02

  Dude, we saw, you have.

• 38:22Andy Frisella?

  I mean, among a bunch of other things.

• 38:23Speaker 02

  For sure. That's a good place.

• 38:24Andy Frisella?

  That's what's removing the power from the people.

• 38:27Speaker 02

  Yeah, bro, because you will have people who will literally openly knowingly vote against their own interests, simply because they don't like the other guy's letter in front of their name.

• 38:36Andy Frisella?

  Or they don't like, he said one thing they didn't like.

• 38:39Speaker 02

  Exactly. You know what I'm saying? Like, but like, your taxes about to go up, you ain't gonna be able to buy a house. Like, it doesn't matter. Doesn't matter.

• 38:44Andy Frisella?

  It's crazy, dude.

• 38:44Speaker 02

  But he didn't win. That's all.

• 38:45Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's, that's the hardest thing about running a campaign. As a candidate, that's the most difficult thing. In order to tell the truth, you run the risk of offending the people that you want to vote for you.

• 38:54Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 38:55Speaker 01

  This is the heresy of democracy. I talk about this all the time, the four great heresies of the West. Scientific method, democracy, computer technology, and the fourth and final one will be artificial intelligence. Heresy democracy circa, I don't know, thirteen hundreds in France. The heresy is that all majorities are made equal and righteous. What kind of stupid philosophy is that? All democratic majorities, all majorities are not made equal and righteous. In fact, if you look throughout history, the majority of, the majority of majorities get it absolutely fucking wrong.

• 39:30Andy Frisella?

  Not only that, it ends in the slaughter of fucking people.

• 39:33Speaker 01

  That's right.

• 39:33Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 39:33Speaker 01

  That's right. And but our politics are set up in a way where

• 39:36Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 39:36Speaker 01

  everybody's trying to pander to the people, and we're totally willing to trick them if necessary in order to win.

• 39:43Andy Frisella?

  Mm-hmm.

• 39:44Speaker 01

  I'm just not about that.

• 39:45Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 39:45Speaker 01

  I'll tell you, every little detail, nuance, whatever topic you want to talk about, I give it to you exactly what I think.

• 39:49Andy Frisella?

  People want that. They want the, they, they

• 39:51Speaker 01

  I don't know.

• 39:52Andy Frisella?

  That now, they're

• 39:53Speaker 01

  Deeply, deeply want that.

• 39:54Andy Frisella?

  I think there's

• 39:55Speaker 01

  On the surface, no.

• 39:56Andy Frisella?

  I think a lot of people are waking up to that.

• 39:57Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 39:58Andy Frisella?

  You might have been a little early.

• 40:00Speaker 01

  Enough for President Trump to have won the last election.

• 40:02Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 40:03Speaker 01

  And whether you like him or not, hate him, love him, disagree, question him, I do it as well on my show, but you can't deny that President Trump is the first politician, candidate, president to disrupt, to up, you know, upset the apple cart and since JFK. Or Reagan, you could say Reagan maybe, but they shot him too, never forget.

• 40:24Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 40:24Speaker 01

  And that was kind of conspicuous also, but you know Reagan, Nixon was about to, he was trying to say some things, and I think Watergate was kind of a, an intelligence coup on Nixon in a way.

• 40:34Andy Frisella?

  Yeah, for sure.

• 40:35Speaker 01

  Yeah, and then, and then you had Reagan.

• 40:37Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 40:37Speaker 01

  He got popped, he was saying some shit, and then you get the Bush junta, you know, the neoconservative wing of the, of the Republican Party that's still running shit.

• 40:46Andy Frisella?

  Still dealing with, right.

• 40:47Speaker 01

  They're still running the intelligence community, they're still running the military-industrial complex, these people are bad hombres. Uh, but you know, President Trump was the first one to say a lot of things, and, and you gotta give him credit for that, whether you like him or not, you know?

• 41:00Andy Frisella?

  Well, I think, I, you know, there's a lot of discontent with Trump right now, I'm frustrated with Trump right now.

• 41:05Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 41:06Andy Frisella?

  I think most of our listeners are frustrated with Trump right now, but not because of anything else that he's, we feel he's not being aggressive enough.

• 41:13Speaker 01

  Amen.

• 41:14Andy Frisella?

  Yeah, and that's

• 41:15Speaker 01

  Go Max.

• 41:15Andy Frisella?

  Yeah, that's, that's where we're

• 41:19Andy Frisella?

  We'll talk about it as we get into the show. Yeah. Let's go ahead and get into the show, guys.

• 41:24Speaker 02

  Yeah, let's do it, man. Glad I'm here.

• 41:25Andy Frisella?

  Thank you, man.

• 41:26Speaker 02

  It's gonna be good, man. Well, uh, seat belts on, guys. This is how I'm gonna cruise.

• 41:30Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 41:30Speaker 02

  This is how I'm gonna cruise. Guys, you guys know how this works. Uh, bring a headline in, we talk about it. Um, if you guys would like to see any of these headlines, these videos, articles, links, go to andyfrisella.com. You guys can find them all linked there for you. Uh, that being said, let's get to headline one.

• 41:46Andy Frisella?

  Do it.

• 41:47Speaker 02

  We got Super Bowl. We gotta talk about Super Bowl.

• 41:49Andy Frisella?

  Oh.

• 41:49Speaker 02

  Oh, man. Yeah, we gotta talk about Super Bowl.

• 41:51Andy Frisella?

  We're talking about the dumbest shit in the world.

• 41:52Speaker 02

  That's right.

• 41:53Andy Frisella?

  Start the fucking show.

• 41:54Speaker 02

  You know, well, no, we didn't, no, no, but we gotta talk about it, man. There's a, this is a big, big contention piece here. Um, and it has nothing to do with the two teams that actually play.

• 42:02Andy Frisella?

  It's the bread and circuses, bro.

• 42:04Speaker 02

  Bro. Bro, well, uh, so this is a CNN headline, and I'm gonna show you guys this. This is how they're describing it. Bad Bunny's Super Bowl halftime performance redefined what it means to be an American patriot.

• 42:21Speaker 02

  Hmm, okay.

• 42:22Andy Frisella?

  Ow.

• 42:22Speaker 02

  Yeah, please enlighten me.

• 42:24Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 42:25Speaker 02

  Yeah, and just over thirteen minutes worth of music starts. Stars and symbolism, Puerto Rican superstar Bad Bunny rewrote what it means to be American in a time of strife. And for those that maybe didn't get a chance to see the half, halftime performance, I have, uh, condensed it a little bit. Uh, check it out.

• 42:44Speaker 03

  Ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay.

• 42:56Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's pretty much it.

• 43:00Speaker 02

  That's pretty much it.

• 43:01Andy Frisella?

  What's up with the shoulder pads?

• 43:03Speaker 02

  Yeah, I don't know, man.

• 43:03Andy Frisella?

  Is that like a football thing he's doing there?

• 43:05Speaker 02

  I don't know. Yeah. I mean, it was football, right?

• 43:07Andy Frisella?

  Yeah, I guess.

• 43:08Speaker 02

  Yeah, I don't know. But that was pretty much it. Uh, you know, but, but One Piece, you know, it's kind of divided, everybody. Everybody's divided right now on, on this halftime show.

• 43:15Andy Frisella?

  Everybody's divided by everything.

• 43:16Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's just another thing.

• 43:17Andy Frisella?

  I like peanut butter. Fuck you! I like jelly!

• 43:20Speaker 02

  That's right. Oh, what kind of jelly? Grape or strawberry?

• 43:23Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 43:23Speaker 02

  You know what I'm saying?

• 43:24Andy Frisella?

  Fucking grape. Fuck you, grape!

• 43:25Speaker 02

  That's right. That's right. And, uh, you know, but one thing that did happen during this halftime show, you know, as it redefines what it means to be an American patriot, was this slip up here. Um, a new low for the NFL. Bad Bunny featured two men simulating sex, dry humping during halftime show. You see that?

• 43:42Andy Frisella?

  No, I didn't.

• 43:42Speaker 02

  Did you watch it at all?

• 43:43Andy Frisella?

  No.

• 43:43Speaker 02

  Did you watch it at all?

• 43:45Andy Frisella?

  No.

• 43:45Speaker 02

  No. Oh, so this is new for everybody. Alright.

• 43:47Andy Frisella?

  Um, I mean, I've seen the fucking internet today. That's all people are talking about. I mean, I didn't, I forgot it was even on.

• 43:54Speaker 02

  I will say this, I will say this, right? I was actually expecting way more gay.

• 43:59Andy Frisella?

  Okay, well, is it, let's see.

• 44:00Speaker 02

  It was two seconds. Here it is. This is the clip.

• 44:04Speaker 02

  Two seconds, that's what you got.

• 44:05Andy Frisella?

  Okay.

• 44:06Speaker 02

  That was it.

• 44:06Andy Frisella?

  Well, that's super gay.

• 44:08Speaker 02

  Super gay!

• 44:08Andy Frisella?

  Yeah. Super gay.

• 44:10Speaker 02

  Super gay. I was expecting way more. Alright, I was expecting way more. And so like, I, I'll say this first. I'm glad it was just the two seconds. I knew, like, listen, you can't avoid that. It's gonna, they're gonna do it. They're gonna try it. You know, this was probably about seven minutes in or so. And, uh, dude, I remember watching this live. I was at my buddy's house. I was watching this live.

• 44:28Andy Frisella?

  You got excited, didn't you?

• 44:29Speaker 02

  No, dude, like, we're sitting there, bro, like, as soon as, as soon as this popped up, like-

• 44:33Andy Frisella?

  Got yourself one of them gay owners.

• 44:34Speaker 02

  Oh, man. That's right. That's right. That's right. But, but something interesting did happen, right? And so you had the Super Bowl. Everybody knows, I think it was actually streamed in every country. Uh, it was like the first time that that's happened. Like, it was streamed across the globe. Um, so all eyes on America, right? You got Bad Bunny leading the halftime performance. Um, and TPUSA took this opportunity to give an alternative to the Super Bowl halftime. Cause I know it was like a lot of talk of, like, Bad Bunny was wearing a dress and Ice was gonna be there. It might have been this big spectacle. You know, the dude's an American citizen, I believe, uh, to my knowledge. I think he is.

• 45:11Andy Frisella?

  Puerto Rican.

• 45:11Speaker 02

  Naturalized, yeah. Yeah. I mean, 51st date, right? Whatever. And, um, you know, but, uh, TPUSA put their own thing on. Uh, and, uh, they had an all-American halftime show. Um, and it actually did pretty well, uh, from all the, the, the stats and stuff that came in. Um, and they had everybody there. I mean, they've had, uh, our, our good buddy, Brently Grill, was there. Um- Kid Rock was there, he performed. And some of the data, they had about five million live, because they live streamed and they had about five million people watching, right? During the half, the NFL's halftime, about five million people were watching the TPUSA's All-American halftime show.

• 45:56Speaker 02

  And apparently it took like, it was like 22, it accounted for like, we had the stats, like 20% of global views during that time we're on TPUSA. Yeah, some crazy stats, dude. Crazy stats, so, I don't know, I mean, thoughts, theories on any of this stuff, dude? What, you, you say bread and circus, was this a distraction? Was it just pointless?

• 46:17Andy Frisella?

  I mean, it's, I don't think it's a planned distraction, we have the Super Bowl every single year, I think sports in general provide, and I'm a sports guy, I like sports, but I think people sink way too much of their life into them to avoid having to confront realities that actually affect their lives. And the more that sports have started to morph into this political environment where they push messages, it's actually pushed me away from really being able to enjoy sports. And I was an athlete my whole life, you know, and so, you know, it's hard for me to look at

• 46:57Andy Frisella?

  the internet, knowing what was just released last week, and the information that is in those Epstein files, and to see people just like, go on with their normal life, and it's, that's, that's frustrating for me to see. Regardless of Bad Bunny, or Kid Rock, or Brantley, or anything, you know, that's where, that's where my frustration comes from.

• 47:23Andy Frisella?

  You know, ever since these sports have taken on these political identities, it's just started to not be cool for me to like, you know, if my friend's playing, or I got somebody that's playing, I'll watch, but outside of that, dude, like, I don't even.

• 47:40Andy Frisella?

  You know, I don't even like feel like a sports fan anymore. Like I don't, I used to go to games. I used to really care, you know, and, my life was more fun whenever I was doing, when I, when I felt that way. Uh, but I don't feel that way anymore. And so like, you know, I was, I was in the middle of other shit and someone texts me and was like, dude, are you watching this? And I'm like, what? Like I forgot that it was even on. So I, you know, I think it's being cert, the controversy is being served up to get people distracted from a lot of the things that we've been talking about on the show and you've talked about on your show.

• 48:18Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 48:18Andy Frisella?

  That are going on in the world, you know, the fraud, the, the ice shit, the Epstein shit. Oh, look, fuck a football.

• 48:25Speaker 01

  Yeah, right.

• 48:26Andy Frisella?

  You know, and

• 48:27Speaker 01

  Two dudes grinding.

• 48:27Andy Frisella?

  Yeah, like it's just, I'm just over it, dude. And I mean, aside from all that, I don't give a shit about either one of those teams. So.

• 48:35Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 48:37Andy Frisella?

  I mean, it's

• 48:38Speaker 01

  Us Minnesota fans, you took, took one on the chin last night.

• 48:41Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 48:41Speaker 01

  Uh, I mean, Sam, Sam Darnold, our, our quarterback from the year before ends up winning.

• 48:46Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 48:46Speaker 01

  That, that never

• 48:47Andy Frisella?

  I'm happy for him.

• 48:48Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 48:48Andy Frisella?

  Hey, wins a Super Bowl on his fifth, 15.

• 48:51Speaker 01

  That never feels good when your quarterback leaves, goes on to win the Super Bowl and you, and your team, you know, shits the bed for the year.

• 48:57Andy Frisella?

  Yeah. But like, you know, I've got friends that are in various sports that I watch and, and, uh, I kind of watch for them and it's kind of like it for me.

• 49:06Speaker 01

  Yeah. No, I think, uh, yeah, there's a, there's just a real, uh, paradox in American culture when it comes to sports because as sports fans, we respect and revere excellence. We respect and revere excellence and, uh, you know, uh, some, you know, things that we don't hold in a high regard in the rest of our culture anymore. It's just a complete, what we love about sports and what we've turned American society into are diametrically opposed.

• 49:41Andy Frisella?

  Correct.

• 49:41Speaker 01

  You know, you know, meritocracy, excellence, mastery, skill. Then you have on the flip side of for everyday citizens and, you know, schools is participation medals. And we all have to, you know, we're all equal. In elite sports, we're not all fucking equal.

• 49:57Andy Frisella?

  No, dude.

• 49:58Speaker 01

  Matter of fact, none of us are equal.

• 49:59Andy Frisella?

  I've talked about this exact example. I don't even know how many times over the years. It's like, dude, you guys will cheer for

• 50:09Andy Frisella?

  You know, D I and, and, and, uh, you know, everybody's inclusion and this and that. But you won't say shit about it on your sport that you like to watch. Right. Cause nobody wants to fucking watch that. Nobody wants to watch somebody who's half as good. It's not even reality. It's like, it's, it's, it's absurd to even discuss. And that's why it's so frustrating to watch it in other areas of the world, you know, like for years and years and years. Like people, like you run a business, right? And you take a picture with your team and they would say, well, how come you don't have any gay people? Or how come you don't have, uh, the amount of black people that I want? Or how come you don't have the amount of, uh, trans people that we?

• 50:53Andy Frisella?

  It's like, motherfucker, I don't even notice that shit. Like I'm trying to win a fucking game. Right. You know, and like when you're at a high level of competition like you've been at. You don't look around at your team and think, fuck dude, is the white guy gonna fucking let me? You're like, fuck, is he good enough? That's right. Are we gonna fucking win? That's right. And like. You better hit this fucking shot, dude. Yeah. I don't care what your skin color is. Dude, that's it. Guard that motherfucker. Yeah. And I think, you know, that's why sports are such a good metaphor for life. Right. Right? You know, kids that grow up playing sports understand the reality of life. Yes. Right? There is a, there is a, there's idealism and then there's fucking reality. Right. And whether it's your business, whether it's a sports team, whether it's whatever.

• 51:38Andy Frisella?

  The best people are gonna fucking play. And we can debate and we can say, oh, well, this and that and this. Get better, motherfucker. Like, I don't know what to tell you. And we've lived in this society so long where, you know, like you said, we've rewarded kids for participation. We've told them they were special when they really weren't. We've told them that they're all unique and that everybody deserves to be equal. And that's just not the fucking truth. The guy, I watched this clip of Patrick Bette David debating this, uh, like communist chick. On TV. Yeah. Uh, that, that show where everybody's in a circle and they run in and she was like. And Patrick, you know, is a successful entrepreneur. He's worked his whole life. I've known Patrick for a long time.

• 52:22Andy Frisella?

  Worked really fucking hard.

• 52:24Speaker 01

  Good dude, smart dude.

• 52:25Andy Frisella?

  Yeah, like, he came here, he fucking worked, and that's all he's done his whole life. And you got this woman sitting in front of him saying, well, not everybody can be you. And he's like, well, you could have been if you would have made decisions that are different.

• 52:38Speaker 01

  Yeah, if you weren't a communist liberal.

• 52:39Andy Frisella?

  Yeah, bro. They, they could not fucking understand, like, she could not understand what he was saying. And it was just-

• 52:46Speaker 01

  She was like, you don't, you don't know what it's like to make minimum wage. She's like, I've worked jobs.

• 52:50Andy Frisella?

  He's like, I worked at fucking Haagen Dazs for four fucking dollars an hour, bro. Like, eh, eh, the problem is, is when people see that, they don't see the 20 years that put him there.

• 53:01Speaker 01

  Right.

• 53:01Andy Frisella?

  You know, eh, just like you with basketball. They didn't see you fucking practice basketball when you're four years old on the fucking driveway, bro.

• 53:09Speaker 01

  Right.

• 53:09Andy Frisella?

  And do it every single day your whole life. My brother played professional sports. The motherfucker, that's all he did. That's all he did. His whole life was play baseball. That's all he did. Running around, having a fu- no. Fucking baseball.

• 53:24Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 53:25Andy Frisella?

  Throw, hit, go in the basement, hit golf balls.

• 53:27Speaker 01

  Hours, hours, relentless.

• 53:29Andy Frisella?

  People do not, and then they see-

• 53:31Speaker 01

  Obsessed, it's obsessed.

• 53:32Andy Frisella?

  Yes, it's total obsession. And eh, eh, and that's what it takes to win in business, too. And people look at people and they say, well, I can't do that. Well, then fucking you ain't cut out to win, motherfucker. Like, I don't know what to tell you. That's the reality of life. It's natural order. The strong survive and the weak perish. This is, and no matter what arguments we want to make, no matter what idealism, things that sound good, no matter, you know, if it's fair or not, it doesn't fuck, nobody, it doesn't matter. It doesn't even fucking matter. Like, like, fair is, is, it's not even a thing that is discussed at that level. It's not even, it's like, are you good enough or are you not?

• 54:10Speaker 01

  Well, eh, eh, at the, at the same ti- yes.

• 54:13Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 54:13Speaker 01

  I mean, eh, eh, the snowflaking is-

• 54:15Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 54:15Speaker 01

  Biblical. I mean, it's just, eh, it's outrageous, the, the level-

• 54:18Andy Frisella?

  But that person could have spent their entire lives becoming something else and they chose not to.

• 54:23Speaker 01

  They want to be. I mean, but people are limited in what they can become. That's certainly true.

• 54:26Andy Frisella?

  For sure. I'm not playing in the NBA.

• 54:28Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 54:30Speaker 01

  You know, so that, I mean, eh, and I'm not gonna be a, a rocket scientist either. I wasn't great at math, but- There is something to be said for justice, right? And I think they're conflating a lot of these liberals, certainly the communists and the leftists, certainly the feminists, I mean, my God, and their libtard boyfriends.

• 54:47Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 54:48Speaker 01

  They're conflating justice with how they want things.

• 54:52Andy Frisella?

  Right.

• 54:53Speaker 01

  That's not the same.

• 54:54Andy Frisella?

  That's right.

• 54:54Speaker 01

  The idea of ju- society needs justice.

• 54:57Andy Frisella?

  Yep.

• 54:57Speaker 01

  Even, even Christian scripture supports that a society that doesn't execute justice is doomed.

• 55:04Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 55:04Speaker 01

  So you need justice.

• 55:05Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 55:05Speaker 01

  But justice isn't whatever I think it is on a given day.

• 55:08Andy Frisella?

  That's right.

• 55:09Speaker 01

  Justice isn't however I want it, it should go, or there's been an injustice done to me.

• 55:13Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 55:14Speaker 01

  That, that's just.

• 55:14Andy Frisella?

  And that's a whole nother topic. What's a real injustice?

• 55:17Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 55:17Andy Frisella?

  They can't.

• 55:18Speaker 01

  Well, I'll tell you what a real injustice is.

• 55:20Andy Frisella?

  I know.

• 55:20Speaker 01

  A real injustice is being a, a, a, a Michael Jordan fan and simultaneously being an AOC voter. That's an injustice. That's an affront. Seriously.

• 55:30Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 55:31Speaker 01

  I don't know how the two things square.

• 55:32Andy Frisella?

  Well.

• 55:33Speaker 01

  How can you be a Michael Jordan fan and an AOC voter? The, the, the, the fundamental mentality about life is, is so polar opposite as to they shouldn't even be in the same universe.

• 55:44Andy Frisella?

  They don't understand the process.

• 55:46Speaker 01

  That's right.

• 55:46Andy Frisella?

  They don't understand the process of greatness. They look at someone like Michael Jordan, or let's say, uh, you know, fuck. Who's the greatest at something else?

• 55:57Speaker 01

  Muhammad Ali.

• 55:58Andy Frisella?

  Muhammad Ali. Okay. And you know what they think? Fucking dude, he came out of the vagina and he, Michael Jordan.

• 56:05Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 56:05Andy Frisella?

  And when, when you talk to everybody else who knew Michael Jordan and he was so competitive, his work ethic was so strong, that his teammates actually fucking hated him until they won.

• 56:16Speaker 01

  I love that.

• 56:17Andy Frisella?

  It's the truth.

• 56:18Speaker 01

  I love that.

• 56:18Andy Frisella?

  And, and dude, you see it, you've seen the doc, right?

• 56:20Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 56:21Andy Frisella?

  Like dude, he's, he's, Michael Jordan's sitting there and he's like, he's hap- being emotional. Because he's watching videos of other teammates that he loved, okay? This is what people don't get about fucking greatness. Michael Jordan loved those motherfuckers, the motherfuckers that he was up their ass, that he was like on their ass all the time. He loved them, he saw greatness in them and he was calling them to greatness. And people can't fucking tolerate that when you're dealing with someone who's a fucking maniacal obsessed. This is the most important thing in the world. Even the greatest athletes have a hard time accepting that. So he's sitting there and I relate to this dude because I've had employees for a long time and there's been a lot of them that, you know, didn't work out.

• 57:05Andy Frisella?

  And it wasn't because I didn't like them or didn't believe in them, but they got tired of me beating up their fucking asses. And he's emotional because like dude, his intent was to make them great too. And they hate him for it still to this day. And that's fucking hard, man. That's a hard thing. But at the end of the day, back to what we're talking about, they don't understand, people don't understand that dude. They don't understand the process. They don't understand this rich guy. And are there cases of guys being chosen and getting funding and, and yeah, but Parentence. But bro, those people never become the greatest because they got shit. They, they were handicapped by the shit that they got.

• 57:48Speaker 01

  It's, it's such a, it's such an interesting thing because it's never one way or another. That is true. And here's where I point out to liberals and democrats, like when I'm on the campaign trail, I talk about politics. It is true that the corporate elites in our country, the banks.

• 58:06Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 58:07Speaker 01

  Uh, multinational.

• 58:08Andy Frisella?

  Unfair advantage.

• 58:10Speaker 01

  It is true.

• 58:11Andy Frisella?

  It's not even, it's not even an advantage.

• 58:12Speaker 01

  It's true that they're running a, anytime, anytime you have a merger of the corporation and the government, that's fascism.

• 58:18Andy Frisella?

  Yeah, I know.

• 58:19Speaker 01

  So we do have a proto fascist.

• 58:20Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 58:21Speaker 01

  System.

• 58:21Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 58:22Speaker 01

  Yeah. So really it's techno feudalism. But you know, you neither here nor there, they have done a grave injustice. They, they have run a Ponzi scheme. There's no doubt about that.

• 58:33Andy Frisella?

  No, the fractional reserve banking.

• 58:35Speaker 01

  It's a scheme. The problem with it though is the Democrats.

• 58:38Andy Frisella?

  Anytime you could take one dollar.

• 58:40Speaker 01

  Are the ones who ran it.

• 58:41Andy Frisella?

  You could take one dollar and fucking loan out nine dollars against it.

• 58:45Speaker 01

  That's a problem.

• 58:45Andy Frisella?

  That's a fucking scheme.

• 58:46Speaker 01

  That's a problem. But my, my, my point is to these people, if you, they're so selective and, and uh, they're so selective with their criticism. It, it's never coherent.

• 58:56Andy Frisella?

  Right.

• 58:57Speaker 01

  Right? It's the same thing with the illegal immigration deal. That's a, a perfect example.

• 59:01Andy Frisella?

  Right.

• 59:01Speaker 01

  Well, when Obama said it was okay. Well, that was Obama different. He's not a fascist. Nobody died. People didn't get shot. People did get shot. Well, he's not a racist. Well, okay. Now, you know, well, the point is, when it, and, and I do think the money scheme is the most important political issue.

• 59:17Andy Frisella?

  No doubt.

• 59:18Speaker 01

  Right?

• 59:18Andy Frisella?

  No doubt.

• 59:19Speaker 01

  So they did, they are on, it is an injustice.

• 59:22Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 59:22Speaker 01

  The taxes.

• 59:23Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 59:23Speaker 01

  Are fucking ridiculous.

• 59:25Andy Frisella?

  Dude.

• 59:25Speaker 01

  Absolutely absurd. The question, but the, okay, so if you say the tax system is how the corporate elites are funneling money back to each other and stripping it from the working class, why on earth do Democrats continue to vote for a party that has the predominant support from the billionaire class?

• 59:42Andy Frisella?

  Because they make people like me the fucking bad guy.

• 59:46Speaker 01

  That's right.

• 59:46Andy Frisella?

  And they say that I'm somewhere in the middle. I'm not one of them. I'm a guy who fucking started from scratch.

• 59:52Speaker 01

  Middle market entrepreneur.

• 59:54Andy Frisella?

  That's right.

• 59:54Speaker 01

  Right.

• 59:55Andy Frisella?

  We employ people. We, we provide careers in our community. We sponsor sports teams. We rebuild our communities. They, and they look at people like that and they say, tax that motherfucker more. Okay?

• 1:00:08Speaker 01

  They can see you.

• 1:00:09Andy Frisella?

  But they don't understand that by taxing that guy more, he's actually not creating as much, as many jobs. He's actually not able to grow his company. And if you're actually, if, if what you think is true, that those people are ultra greedy and will just keep the money, then that even plays more into the fucking idea that they're gonna grow their company so they can make more money. Like their whole fundamental understanding of it is completely fucked.

• 1:00:34Speaker 01

  They, they miss, they miss Milton Friedman's free market capitalism.

• 1:00:37Andy Frisella?

  Yes. Like if you really think that those middle guys who sponsor your kid's team and shit are too rich and you think that they're that greedy, then if you didn't tax them as much, wouldn't they go make more money and provide more jobs?

• 1:00:50Speaker 01

  And, but I will say this, in the, in, in uh, as a critique of the middle market.

• 1:00:55Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 1:00:56Speaker 01

  The middle market, because a lot of middle market people are on loan.

• 1:01:01Andy Frisella?

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:01:01Speaker 01

  Right? They're in debt and they're on loan.

• 1:01:03Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 1:01:03Speaker 01

  And they have a bank and they have-

• 1:01:04Andy Frisella?

  They have to answer to them.

• 1:01:05Speaker 01

  Yes, right. Okay, so a lot of them are disincentivized from organizing their middle market money politically.

• 1:01:12Andy Frisella?

  Correct. No, because they won't get any money for the company.

• 1:01:15Speaker 01

  There you go.

• 1:01:16Andy Frisella?

  Bro, people, yeah, see, we're debt-free.

• 1:01:17Speaker 01

  That's right.

• 1:01:18Andy Frisella?

  See, nobody fucking owns-

• 1:01:19Speaker 01

  You're a unicorn, though.

• 1:01:20Andy Frisella?

  Nobody owns me, bro.

• 1:01:21Speaker 01

  You're a unicorn in the middle market.

• 1:01:22Andy Frisella?

  We're one of the biggest companies in the world that is not fucking, uh, does not carry debt.

• 1:01:26Speaker 01

  You're a unicorn in the middle market.

• 1:01:28Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 1:01:28Speaker 01

  Most middle market need working capital loans.

• 1:01:31Andy Frisella?

  It is. When they come in here, because we get shop, people try to come in and buy the company and shit.

• 1:01:38Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:01:39Andy Frisella?

  And we tell them that, they think we're lying. They think we're lying. They're like, oh, there's no, what are you talking about? No debt. I'm like, I don't know how to fucking explain this to you. Let me write it on the board. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's why it took 27 fucking years, and I didn't do it in five years.

• 1:01:58Speaker 01

  You talk like a badass.

• 1:01:58Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 1:01:59Speaker 01

  Because you're a badass motherfucker.

• 1:02:00Andy Frisella?

  Well, bro, like-

• 1:02:01Speaker 01

  Any middle market dude who doesn't have debt is a, is a natural born badass.

• 1:02:05Andy Frisella?

  Well, I mean, nobody ever gave me anything. And to be completely honest, I'm, I was never good financially, being financially literate. I, I, you know, when I was, when we were growing this company, we didn't really understand that we could have accelerated by taking debt. I was afraid of taking debt, and the reason I was afraid of it was because I know how fucking stupid I've been before, where I fuck shit up, and the last thing I want to do is make a big boo-boo and owe a bunch of people money, because then I can't pay. I don't want to do that. So like, you know, you sacrifice velocity for security, you know, and-

• 1:02:40Speaker 01

  Sacred honor.

• 1:02:41Andy Frisella?

  Right.

• 1:02:41Speaker 01

  But a bunch of American business is, is predicated on-

• 1:02:45Andy Frisella?

  Absolutely.

• 1:02:46Speaker 01

  The debt system.

• 1:02:47Andy Frisella?

  Absolutely.

• 1:02:47Speaker 01

  And even more so, it's predicated on, uh, I can take out a big, and this is, this is the, probably the biggest contradiction in modern American politics. The most progressive president in the history of our country was responsible for the greatest transfer of wealth in the history of human civilization by bailing out the people who ran the Ponzi scheme. Barack Obama bailed out the banks in Wall Street after the 2009 financial crisis and Democrats.

• 1:03:15Andy Frisella?

  Let him fucking.

• 1:03:16Speaker 01

  The Democrats just cannot reconcile how they still chant and cheer and throw rose petals at the feet of a man who was responsible for that type of scam.

• 1:03:28Andy Frisella?

  Yeah, but that's just because he's well spoken, bro, and he's charismatic. He gets away with a lot of shit because of that. Bro, when you watch fucking Barack Obama, okay, I know what Barack Obama has done. Okay, but when I watch him, and I'm also a pretty fucking damn good public speaker, so I pay attention to the other ones.

• 1:03:47Speaker 01

  That motherfucker's good.

• 1:03:48Andy Frisella?

  He's fucking, bro, he's one of the best ever. Like, I watch him, and even though I know what he's done, I watch him and I'm like, fuck. Like, I kinda like that dude.

• 1:04:01Speaker 01

  He's got that Michael Jordan of public speaking.

• 1:04:05Andy Frisella?

  Yeah, and so people that don't know what he's done, it's very easy to be like, oh, like, we saw it this, uh, this weekend, we saw it. Everybody, because with that fucking video that came out with that clip on the end of it, and everybody was like, oh, dude. Uh, by the way, Trump did that on purpose. I don't know if you guys are fucking not reading it right or what, but, um, the entire video was about the fucking election fraud, and they've been screaming about election fraud for years. Nobody wants to listen to it. So, how do you get people to pay attention to it? Oh, you throw in a fucking clip that gets everybody pissed off that you have deniability because it's part of another video.

• 1:04:43Speaker 01

  Well played, Mr. President.

• 1:04:44Andy Frisella?

  Dude, dude, and not a single motherfucker out there is like pointing that out. It's like, dude, what do you got? Like, all the talking heads, all the people are like, oh, fucking, it's like.

• 1:04:53Speaker 01

  He made the monkeys.

• 1:04:54Andy Frisella?

  What the fuck are you talking about? He had to get people to look at it.

• 1:04:58Speaker 01

  The snowfl- wait a second. The snowflaking in the race, in the ra- the whole race bait conversation is part of what pulled me into politics. I can't stand, it, it makes me sick to my stomach, seriously.

• 1:05:09Andy Frisella?

  Bro.

• 1:05:10Speaker 01

  You know, and.

• 1:05:11Andy Frisella?

  Everybody's over it.

• 1:05:12Speaker 01

  With all due respect, okay. Black people been through some rough shit in this country, there's no doubt about it. Nobody denies it, nobody in his sense denies that.

• 1:05:20Andy Frisella?

  Nobody's even questioning that.

• 1:05:21Speaker 01

  But, but, black people have done a lot of self inflicted harm. Especially recently.

• 1:05:26Andy Frisella?

  Continue to do.

• 1:05:27Speaker 01

  Not only with cultural issues, like hip hop that says, hey, kill the next guy just for no reason today.

• 1:05:33Andy Frisella?

  Disrespect you.

• 1:05:34Speaker 01

  Not even that.

• 1:05:35Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 1:05:35Speaker 01

  Just kill him cuz hey, I popped a perk and I'm feeling a little crazy this, you know, this evening. That's cra- that's psycho- it's demonic is what it is. It's really, it really is.

• 1:05:43Andy Frisella?

  I know, bro. I, I, I have, I-

• 1:05:45Speaker 01

  But voting for people like Barack Obama is also a self inflicting wound in the black community because we are so gullible, the black community, and I'm fighting an uphill battle with this as a, you know, black Republican and, you know, they, oh, you're Uncle Tom. You're with, you're sitting with the money.

• 1:06:00Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 1:06:01Speaker 01

  Don't tell me you're some freedom fighting revolutionary Che Guevara type. AOC's wearing a hundred and thirty thousand dollar couture dress to the Met Gala.

• 1:06:10Andy Frisella?

  Yeah, that says fucking pay taxes on this shit.

• 1:06:13Speaker 01

  Did they, did they bring any illegal immigrants into the Met Gala or the Grammys or the Oscars?

• 1:06:17Andy Frisella?

  Or, or-

• 1:06:18Speaker 01

  Did they have a little special section for illegals?

• 1:06:20Andy Frisella?

  Well, how about this? I mean, how many of these-

• 1:06:22Speaker 01

  Don't they wanna enjoy the show? They're born invaders?

• 1:06:23Andy Frisella?

  How many illegal families do these people host?

• 1:06:26Speaker 01

  Zero.

• 1:06:26Andy Frisella?

  Oh, that's right.

• 1:06:27Speaker 01

  That would be zero.

• 1:06:27Andy Frisella?

  Yeah. And how many illegal families do the protesters in fucking Minnesota have in their homes?

• 1:06:32Speaker 01

  Oh, that would be zero.

• 1:06:33Andy Frisella?

  Oh, that's right.

• 1:06:34Speaker 01

  No, actually, you, wait a second. Minnesota libtars are a special brand of-

• 1:06:38Andy Frisella?

  Okay, well, let's just say-

• 1:06:39Speaker 01

  These people actually would-

• 1:06:40Andy Frisella?

  Let's just say as a percentage-

• 1:06:42Speaker 01

  They'll actually let, yeah, small but-

• 1:06:43Andy Frisella?

  What's the percentage? The percentage is ninety-nine percent of these people are totally full of shit.

• 1:06:50Speaker 01

  True.

• 1:06:51Andy Frisella?

  And that is why you cannot allow them to morally manipulate you like you're some bad person. They're full of shit. They know you're a good person and they're trying to manipulate your good heart to fucking a- advance their agenda.

• 1:07:03Speaker 01

  You're making the argument though for, for President Trump to go max and, uh-

• 1:07:08Andy Frisella?

  Well, that's what everybody wants, bro.

• 1:07:10Speaker 01

  Well- No. Well, hold on, let's be clear about it. I want to be, we want it.

• 1:07:15Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 1:07:16Speaker 01

  People in this audience may want it. A good portion of the MAGA movement and America First movement want it. But there's about, oh, I don't know, I'd say a good twenty-five to thirty percent of plumb line, milquetoast, moderate Republicans that like Nikki Haley, or, you know, the Mitt Romney folks, or

• 1:07:36Andy Frisella?

  Lindsey Graham.

• 1:07:36Speaker 01

  They're, they're, they're super Israel first.

• 1:07:39Andy Frisella?

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:07:40Speaker 01

  That, that do not want President Trump to go, look at Tim Scott. You rhino cuck motherfucker, Tim Scott. Can you believe that he goes, oh, this is the most racist thing that's come out of the White House?

• 1:07:54Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 1:07:54Speaker 01

  Are you kidding me? Are you kidding?

• 1:07:57Andy Frisella?

  Depends on who you ask.

• 1:07:58Speaker 01

  Tim Scott, I mean, but again.

• 1:08:00Andy Frisella?

  I mean, I, I, I personally found it racist when, when, when, uh, you got Joe Biden and Kamala Harris standing up saying that white men are the biggest fucking problem in America. I think that's pretty fucking racist.

• 1:08:12Speaker 01

  That's horrendous to say.

• 1:08:13Andy Frisella?

  Yeah. And I mean, they're saying it on television over and over and over again for an entire political campaign. I think that's pretty fucking racist.

• 1:08:20Speaker 01

  Super.

• 1:08:21Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 1:08:22Speaker 01

  It's, it's, it's, it should be.

• 1:08:24Andy Frisella?

  I'm not offended by it because I don't get fucking offended. And I'm like, whatever. I don't give a shit. But like.

• 1:08:28Speaker 01

  In a, in a normal society, something like that wouldn't even be acceptable to say.

• 1:08:32Andy Frisella?

  No, it's because dude, it's, dude, when we, if you go back to two thou, like the year two thousand or two thousand and five.

• 1:08:39Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:08:40Andy Frisella?

  Motherfucker, we were over all this shit. Nobody was, you couldn't fucking say that shit. Everybody was getting along and then all of a sudden, bro, Soros got his shit going here and now look what the fuck's going on. It's the same shit he's done everywhere.

• 1:08:53Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:08:53Andy Frisella?

  Anyway.

• 1:08:54Speaker 01

  Real, man. That's real.

• 1:08:56Andy Frisella?

  That's, uh, I'm glad you came on the show, man.

• 1:08:58Speaker 01

  I love it, man.

• 1:08:58Andy Frisella?

  Super glad.

• 1:08:59Speaker 01

  Hey, you're, you're the man.

• 1:09:01Andy Frisella?

  All right, bro. No.

• 1:09:02Speaker 01

  I got the tour before the show.

• 1:09:03Andy Frisella?

  No, dude.

• 1:09:03Speaker 01

  We gotta talk afterward. You're the, you're a badass dude. No, seriously, this country was built. Intended to be a nation of shopkeepers and agrarian farmers, middle market entrepreneurs, independent businessmen, and the fact that you have a business this big with no debt, you're a fucking unicorn, but you're a, you're a, you are a-

• 1:09:21Andy Frisella?

  It's getting harder to navigate because we're getting into that bigger, the bigger business.

• 1:09:25Speaker 01

  Oh, and they're gonna come with the sellout. Yeah, it's coming. I just saw the other day-

• 1:09:29Andy Frisella?

  I love my people though, bro. I love this fucking company. I love what I do every day. I've, I've seen so many entrepreneurs sell their companies, because look dude, I'm just being real, I'm not trying to be arrogant. I don't need the money. They sell their purpose. And I, I've seen so many people sell their company thinking that the money's going to replace that purpose, and it just never will for me. Like, I love fucking coming in here. I love solving problems with these people. I love fucking seeing them get better. I love seeing them like, develop and grow, and sometimes go on to other things. I love that shit. And I feel like that's what I'm here to do. You know what I mean? And, and dude, no amount of money could replace that for me. Especially when I live a pretty fucking good life. You

• 1:10:12Andy Frisella?

  know what I mean? But, anyway, I probably wouldn't feel that way if I hadn't have seen so many people go through that. You know? Anyway, we got another topic.

• 1:10:21Speaker 02

  Yeah, we gotta keep cruising, man. Uh, we got, we got headline two. Let's go up to Minnesota, show. Let's do it. Let's dive in on this. We covered a little bit of it, but, uh, I thought this was interesting. We've, we've been covering this on the show for weeks now, man. Um, looking at it, and I think we've kind of come to a pretty good consensus, and I would love your take on it, but like, you know, I believe that they're continuing the ICE riots and the protests and stuff, it's a major cover-up.

• 1:10:47Speaker 01

  For the fraud.

• 1:10:48Andy Frisella?

  Yeah, 100%.

• 1:10:50Speaker 02

  And that's where, that's really what-

• 1:10:51Andy Frisella?

  You seen it that way too?

• 1:10:52Speaker 01

  Do the American people even care if they're being robbed, though? Like, I'm, I'm getting kind of cynical, and I'm, I'm still optimistic, but, back to what you said about athletes, let's be real. Okay, when I'm being real, like, if I'm sitting at home at night, and I got on MSNBC and I'm watching Rachel Maddow, you know, give the game play, you know, call the shots for the entire neoliberal establishment, the entire world order, and that's who she is. She, she's one of the brain, the brain child.

• 1:11:20Andy Frisella?

  People don't understand what you're saying.

• 1:11:23Andy Frisella?

  Make no mistake about it. When you watch Fox, or you watch CNBC, or you watch CNN, these are people who are put on television to call the play.

• 1:11:33Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:11:34Andy Frisella?

  This is how you're supposed to feel.

• 1:11:36Speaker 01

  It's not just entertainment.

• 1:11:36Andy Frisella?

  It's not news either. It's, this is how you're supposed to feel.

• 1:11:40Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:11:40Speaker 02

  Dude, there was some crazy stat, not to cut you off, I think it was like in the eighties or nineties, that like seventy percent of all the news anchors were actual CIA operatives.

• 1:11:49Andy Frisella?

  Yes. Yes.

• 1:11:50Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:11:50Andy Frisella?

  That's cra- like, uh, what?

• 1:11:52Speaker 01

  But this is what I'm saying.

• 1:11:53Andy Frisella?

  That's what?

• 1:11:54Speaker 01

  To my apropos to what I'm saying.

• 1:11:56Andy Frisella?

  That's crazy.

• 1:11:57Speaker 01

  When I'm sitting there at night and I'm watching this shit, and I got my notebook out and, you know, I got my notes and I'm doing my, doing my political thing, I just always revert back to, you get the government you deserve. You get the government you deserve, and by God, we all will. And we the people have to, at some point, say enough is enough. And I just don't think we've got, here, here's the, uh, the bottleneck that we're, we're facing now. Convenience is the, is the crisis in our society. Like you were saying about how we've made kids soft.

• 1:12:30Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 1:12:30Speaker 01

  We have made our society convenient writ large, just culturally, globally, right?

• 1:12:36Andy Frisella?

  Look dude, you could order a pizza, be there in fifteen minutes. You could fucking talk to your friends across the world without getting on an airplane. You can, you, you could text, you could, it's, and dude, to people that don't have the perspective that we would have before all that shit, they can't see any other way.

• 1:12:51Speaker 01

  No doubt.

• 1:12:51Andy Frisella?

  Right? So, when we talk about like what you're saying about, like, you say, do people give a fuck about the fraud? Well, the only reason they-

• 1:12:59Speaker 01

  I don't know if they do, bro.

• 1:13:00Andy Frisella?

  But the reason they don't-

• 1:13:01Speaker 01

  The high is too good.

• 1:13:02Andy Frisella?

  The, they don't know how much better their life could be without it.

• 1:13:06Speaker 01

  Amen.

• 1:13:07Andy Frisella?

  They don't understand. They don't understand-

• 1:13:09Speaker 02

  This is just the way it is.

• 1:13:10Andy Frisella?

  Bro, they don't understand that like, like, you wouldn't have that problem paying your fucking rent. You wouldn't have that problem going to dinner with your girl once in a while. You wouldn't be embarrassed about having to, you know, shop at the thrift store, whatever you gotta do. Like dude, this would solve it. People just don't understand.

• 1:13:27Speaker 01

  And then, but this reverts back, this is where, this is where it gets real- I mean, there's just such a fine needle to thread.

• 1:13:35Andy Frisella?

  And the people selling the message are making money selling it.

• 1:13:37Speaker 01

  Well, that too, big, big money. Yeah. No, and like I say about the Fed, and I say, do people care about getting robbed?

• 1:13:46Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 1:13:46Speaker 01

  Right? Imagine somebody comes in, I said this on my show two days ago, imagine somebody comes into your house at night, takes your wallet or purse out, robs you of all your cash, comes back the next day and says, you gotta pay back the money I stole with interest. With interest. You have to pay me back money I stole from you with interest. That's what the Fed has done to us.

• 1:14:04Andy Frisella?

  Dude, and people, and people say, oh, taxation is theft. No, the fuck it isn't. It's fucking extortion.

• 1:14:10Speaker 01

  That's right. Cause don't pay it.

• 1:14:11Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 1:14:12Speaker 01

  And they make you pay, then they, but they're stealing it.

• 1:14:14Andy Frisella?

  It's do this or that.

• 1:14:16Speaker 01

  They're gonna make you pay back the vig on an inflated number that a price that they've set is straight mafia shit.

• 1:14:22Andy Frisella?

  Bro.

• 1:14:22Speaker 01

  And so my.

• 1:14:23Andy Frisella?

  Look at property tax.

• 1:14:24Speaker 01

  Oh. Oh, they don't raise property tax, but your.

• 1:14:27Andy Frisella?

  You don't even own your shit. You don't even own your fucking shit, bro.

• 1:14:30Speaker 01

  So I, I, I think to myself, I go, okay, when are people gonna actually say enough is enough? And this is where it gets complicated because again,

• 1:14:40Speaker 01

  in order for people to even have a, a, a starting point where they would be offended by the taxation, or they would be offended at the prospect of being stolen from their central bank, you would have had to have had a, a generation's consistency of American civics, what it means to be a citizen. So we have to get back to those basic political terms where what is to be a citizen? What does sovereignty mean? What, what does it mean to be economically independent? And so where these things have been lost, going down the fucking memory hole. Well, yeah, intentionally confiscated, you could say. Uh, they've gone down the memory hole. Now people's only political identity is transgender, I'm a woman, I'm black,

• 1:15:24Speaker 01

  I'm Jewish, I'm Christian, I'm Muslim.

• 1:15:27Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 1:15:27Speaker 01

  These are the only things that they can even identify with, which is why the border, to your point about the raids, to tie it in. The border has become a proxy for all other identity politics. It's not even about the border because nobody can even give you a sane or logical argument about the border itself.

• 1:15:44Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 1:15:44Speaker 01

  You have to have a border. If you don't have a border, you don't have a country. If you don't have a country, you don't have citizenship. If you don't have citizenship, you don't have rights. You don't have human rights. You don't have women's rights. You don't have gay rights.

• 1:15:55Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 1:15:56Speaker 01

  You don't have rights, civil rights. You don't have rights if you don't have a country. These are fundamentals that were not unintentionally.

• 1:16:03Andy Frisella?

  Well, brother, they understand it, or otherwise they wouldn't be building fucking forts in the middle of the fucking streets saying, keep the fuck out.

• 1:16:09Speaker 01

  That's right. That's right. So, I mean, as far as the ice raids go, I mean, I just think it's, it's probably one of the greatest psyops. The whole, the whole illegal immigration argument and debate might be one of the greatest psyops in American history. Because I don't even understand the argument.

• 1:16:27Andy Frisella?

  There is no argument.

• 1:16:28Speaker 01

  There is no arg- no, this is one of those things where, but it's also, but you gotta think, we think of it like this from a lot, again, you're making the point for President Trump to start arresting judges.

• 1:16:38Andy Frisella?

  Yes.

• 1:16:38Speaker 01

  To start arresting some of these elites.

• 1:16:40Andy Frisella?

  Yes.

• 1:16:41Speaker 01

  To start arresting some of these mayors and governors. He needs to go ma- and people are gonna say, well, wait a second. I mean, he's not, uh, listen. If you get to a place in your society where giving a, a prepubescent kid hormone blockers is acceptable. And then you get down to, okay, fine. You guys got some weird kinky view about mutilating our children. We totally disagree with it and we should do everything we can to stop that. But it, it, it proves the point that you're disanchored from reality. When we get to the next argument and you say, there's no such thing as illegal and stolen land. Okay, so now we realize you guys have a thread of ideas that is completely detached from reality. We cannot, and you can have them because this is America.

• 1:17:24Speaker 01

  You can have whatever ideas you want. We're just not following you. We're not following you and we sure as hell aren't gonna let you govern. And any of these conservatives, like Tim Scott and the rest of the Mitch, Mitch McConnell's band of running dogs, the NRSC. And of course, they come and re- recruit sideline, uh, uh, doll, Michelle Tafoya, who's pro-choice and about, uh, uh, ankle deep on any of these issues. There's no substance whatsoever because you don't survive in 30 years as a sideline reporter unless you say absolutely nothing controversial. You get fired if you say anything dangerous.

• 1:17:58Speaker 01

  These conservatives that think even hesitate that President Trump should go max. When we have a cultural crisis and psychological rot at this level. Throw him in with the communists.

• 1:18:10Andy Frisella?

  Throw him in there.

• 1:18:11Speaker 01

  Arrest him too.

• 1:18:12Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 1:18:12Speaker 01

  Arrest him too.

• 1:18:13Andy Frisella?

  God wills it. That's where Trump's getting his, Trump's getting his fracture. It's from not doing that. Right. You know, everybody's fucking pissed off. They're pissed off about him sucking fucking Netanyahu's dick.

• 1:18:25Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:18:26Andy Frisella?

  They're pissed off about our money going everywhere. And they're pissed off by him coming in and being like, oh, you know. Um, it's the greatest time of all time or the golden age, motherfucker, dude, I don't know. Like, when was the last time you went to fucking, uh, you know, and visited some people that are actual people? Like, when was the last time you talked to them? Because they won't tell you that it's the golden age. They won't tell you that. So, you know, there's.

• 1:18:53Andy Frisella?

  My opinion politically, like from, cause I have a more extreme opinion of what needs to happen. But let's just say that we're in a recoverable state. Which I'm not sure that we are, but let's say we are for argument of discussion. He has to fucking make those arrests and he has to hold accountability or he has, there's no chance of those midterms happening. Nobody will show up. They won't show up. So.

• 1:19:16Speaker 01

  Well, and two things. One, one is I'm going to say finally, because every time I see these, this ICE raids headline. I get dizzy thinking about how stupid these people are, but these liberal women in Minnesota are the bane of our existence. But there are, there are actually a lot of liberal-esque women, liberal leaning type women on the conservative side. And that's where you get your Mitt Romneys who are just about as cucked as any, any center-left Democrats you find. Um.

• 1:19:44Speaker 01

  At the same time. I hate scapegoats. It's my pet peeve. And I do get the sense.

• 1:19:53Speaker 01

  That President Trump, just like with the left, has become somewhat of a scapegoat on the right. Not, not to say that we shouldn't be critical, because I'm the first one to say, if we, if we do anything in Iran, again, if there's one more thing done in Iran, I'm gonna lose my shit. You know, if they want to do Greater Israel, they can do it on their own, my opinion, let the Persians deal with the mullahs. Let the Persians be Persians. But if Republicans don't understand that MAGA, Making America Great Again, Making America Great Always, America First, is not a political philosophy or movement that they can choose to participate in or not. They just have to force the issue, they have to move the Overton window, if necessary, by force.

• 1:20:39Speaker 01

  That that happens by showing up, like, in Minnesota, it was just the caucuses on February 3rd. If you didn't come to caucus, Yeah. you're not gonna be a part of the process, because by, the, the primaries in America, and, and, and Eric Weinstein said this the best I've ever heard.

• 1:20:56Speaker 01

  The primary, the primaries all across the country are intended to prune both political parties of the populist candidates. So what they do is they have a bunch of party insiders on both sides of the aisle that strip the party of the candidates that actually would challenge the status quo before they ever make it to a general election. Right. And so, most people don't understand that by not being involved in that, that process, from caucus up to the endorsement, and then the primary, the whole game is hap, it's like right now, where the Save Act is like, oh, well, we need to pass the Save Act. Motherfucker, they're already early voting in some states. Yeah. The save, the time for the Save Act was yesteryear. Yeah. Okay, so we missed that because people do not even understand how the process works.

• 1:21:40Speaker 01

  And, and with all due respect to President Trump as well, and I know he's battling a lot, and, you know, you got world wars breaking out while he's also trying to get a hold of these elections, and you got this Epstein file thing that doesn't bode favorably for him either, you know, to be quite, just optics. Yeah. Now, I don't think he was guilty of a crime in it, or else, because if he was, surely Rachel Maddow would run a 24/7 cycle that President Trump should be convicted on those charges. Yeah. They're not doing that for a reason, but- It's still an indictment of him that he was even involved with Epstein to some degree. And everybody else up and down the line, some of them are child sex traffickers. And we need to, we need to parse that out and we need that shit unredacted so we can figure out who's who.

• 1:22:20Andy Frisella?

  That's right.

• 1:22:21Speaker 01

  Point being though, even President Trump, and, and this is his spiritual burden to bear at this moment in history. Cause I do think that he was, he's, he's been, uh, given a divine mission. But just cause you've been given a divine mission, doesn't mean you're gonna make the right choices. God's still gonna let you make those choices like King David. In, in the scripture, it says, King David is a man after the Lord's own heart, but he was covetous. He sent one of his generals off to war so he could bang the wife. I mean, this is right out of scripture, right?

• 1:22:51Andy Frisella?

  Right.

• 1:22:52Speaker 01

  But he was still a man after the Lord's own heart. So President Trump has been, you know, touched by, you know, a divine calling. He still has to make those choices. And one of those choices for him personally, I believe, with this all, all due respect, Mr. President, is he believes in his own ability to cut deals. And so he has to overcome his own ego about being able to facilitate deals in order to get to a place where he can go max and not care what the public says about it.

• 1:23:19Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 1:23:20Speaker 01

  That's his mountain to climb right now.

• 1:23:22Andy Frisella?

  There's also.

• 1:23:23Speaker 01

  And I'm, I'm pushing you there. I'm up, I'm right there behind you, pushing you up that mountain. Fuck these people. Go max.

• 1:23:28Andy Frisella?

  Dude, do we have the Epstein shit in here?

• 1:23:30Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:23:31Andy Frisella?

  Okay, that's the third topic. Alright. Cause I got a lot of shit to say about it.

• 1:23:34Speaker 01

  Yeah, go ahead.

• 1:23:34Andy Frisella?

  But let's.

• 1:23:35Speaker 02

  We'll save it. Yeah. No, it's real. I, I do wanna get into the fraud though up there, uh, cause, cause I think this is the cover up, man. I think.

• 1:23:41Speaker 01

  Hundred billion dollars when it's all said and done. Hundred billy.

• 1:23:44Speaker 02

  At least.

• 1:23:44Speaker 01

  At least.

• 1:23:45Speaker 02

  At least, dude.

• 1:23:46Andy Frisella?

  In one city, in one program.

• 1:23:47Speaker 02

  That's one city.

• 1:23:48Speaker 01

  But people of Minnesota, let me tell you about Minnesota. I just wanna give you a, an insight into Minnesota culture.

• 1:23:55Speaker 01

  In Scandinavian, in, in old Scandinavia, and my grandmother came from Norway. So I understand the, the transition that Scandinavians had from the Viking warrior culture to the, what they call John Tay culture. John Tay was a more post-enlightenment Scandinavian culture where, uh, they had formed these, these communities where. They didn't, they didn't like conflict. Especially didn't like conflict about ideology or politics. And there's an entire law of Jantay. You can look it up. If you're out there in the audience, look up the law of Jantay. It's a, it's a political theory, but it's real. And it's what now is called Minnesota nice. People in Minnesota on both sides of the aisle, they don't like confrontation. This was a They're like Canadians. Yes. Yeah.

• 1:24:38Speaker 01

  But this is, this is something that the Norwegian and the Scandinavian cultures did because the winters were harsh. They had to scrape and claw to, to get the food gathered that they needed. And they had to worry about the neighboring village or tribe coming to kill them. So they didn't have time to scuffle internally. So their answer to that wasn't, we're going to become a battle hardened warrior culture like Spartans. No, they were, we just don't have time for any arguments. Right. We don't want any individuality. We want, we want collectivism. A collectivism will help safeguard us from the outside threats. That's why Minnesota is the belly of the fucking beast. Academic, academic philosophy, government fraud, uh, the, the brainwashing about illegal immigration.

• 1:25:21Speaker 01

  In Minnesota, you are looking at a, a, a, an epicenter of people who don't mind getting robbed. And they're going to show us in these midterms. They're already showing us now, but trust in, trust me when I tell you. When these midterms That makes sense.

• 1:25:34Speaker 02

  No, it makes perfect sense.

• 1:25:36Speaker 01

  It's called Minnesota nice. Yeah. Have you ever heard of Minnesota nice? You probably have, but people in Minnesota have been to Minnesota know, oh, Minnesota nice. All it is is Jantay culture. It's, we don't want people to stand out. We don't want any too much controversy. We, we just, and it's prime for people to go along with the get along. You could still a hundred, why do you think the hundred billion dollar fraud happened there? Because the Minnesotans are, are susceptible to accepting that type of theft. Right. How could you ever go back and vote for the, I could see you abstaining your vote. I could see you saying, you know what? I'm out if I'm a Democrat. But for you to cast a ballot for Amy Klobuchar, running for governor, or Peggy Flanagan, who was the lieutenant, who's now running against me for US senate. These people were part of the fraud.

• 1:26:18Speaker 01

  In fact, Amy Klobuchar prosecuted a statewide daycare fraud in the Mon community back in 2003. And you mean to tell me this hundred billion dollar fraud happened and she never They don't know about it. She never once called over to the governor and said, hey, man, this is how they run that. She told them how to do it.

• 1:26:37Speaker 02

  Yeah. Why prosecute them when you can make money off of it?

• 1:26:39Speaker 01

  There you go. Yeah. Kickback city. Yeah.

• 1:26:42Speaker 02

  Yeah, the, the shit's crazy and more fraud keeps coming out day in, day Um, this, uh, these fraud tourists, they just pled guilty to a, a new Medicaid scheme. It was two men from Philadelphia. They made it their rose in a $3.5 million scheme involving Minnesota's housing stability services program. Um, another woman just sentenced prison for stealing $325,000 in SNAP benefits. Just one woman, right? It, it keeps coming out now in more recent news. Um, this report just came out that simply on one policy alone, on one policy alone. Um,

• 1:27:24Speaker 02

  up to a billion dollars. Wow. Just because of some language in one policy that affected 14 services. That was it. That was it. And this just came out, uh, and that's just one piece. They actually revealed that it was a total of about 9.4 billion dollars. Um, and 14 Medicaid programs that were deemed high risk. Um, the report we have it linked for you guys online, it's all there. Um, but here's my question, dude. Like, I mean, cause we kind of got into it, man. And you explained the Minnesota nice side of it, right? But it's like,

• 1:27:59Speaker 02

  I'm, I'm still trying to understand why more people are not upset at our taxpayer dollars just being fucking just gone. Right? And like, I'm thinking about this and like, well, is it, it, could it be part of it? Is that because most people are not really truly paying into it? You know what I'm saying? Like, there's a lot of people that are just-

• 1:28:17Speaker 01

  Aren't paying their taxes.

• 1:28:18Speaker 02

  Yeah, right. Like, like, uh, uh, is there, is, is that a part of it?

• 1:28:22Andy Frisella?

  I think when people think about-

• 1:28:23Speaker 02

  You know what I'm saying?

• 1:28:24Andy Frisella?

  I think when they think about fraud, they don't, they don't make the connection that that's like their money.

• 1:28:29Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:28:30Andy Frisella?

  I think people don't do that. I think, I think when they hear this, they, what they, what they're actually hearing is like, rich people are being scammed.

• 1:28:41Speaker 01

  Hmm.

• 1:28:42Andy Frisella?

  That's what they're hearing. Like, they're not hearing that it's their household, or their money, or, you know, like, they don't understand that even if the rich people are being scammed, that's money that should be spent on their wellbeing. They're not connecting those two things.

• 1:29:00Speaker 01

  Right. Well, yes. And again, it goes back to, hence why I brought people to the Fed after George Floyd died.

• 1:29:07Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 1:29:08Speaker 01

  Right? Because the cul- the culture issues, the cultural wedge issues are WWE. The, the whole, the whole, not to say that there aren't real cultural issues.

• 1:29:17Andy Frisella?

  Right.

• 1:29:18Speaker 01

  But what I'm saying is that the disproportionate amount of time that's spent on the cultural issues, like hence the Bad Bunny thing versus the fraud in Minnesota or the Epstein files, tells you that people have displaced priorities.

• 1:29:30Andy Frisella?

  Yeah, or the central banking system that robs us blind our whole entire lives.

• 1:29:35Speaker 01

  But people don't even, it, it here's, it's two.

• 1:29:37Andy Frisella?

  But how do you get someone to understand that, like, like?

• 1:29:40Speaker 01

  You gotta start with a child.

• 1:29:42Andy Frisella?

  Bro, you gotta, like, go back to slavery, okay? How do you convince a, a slave who has, because this is fucking slavery in a different form?

• 1:29:51Speaker 01

  Way slavery.

• 1:29:52Andy Frisella?

  Okay?

• 1:29:53Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:29:54Andy Frisella?

  How do you convince someone that's been enslaved? They were born into slavery. Okay, it's been their whole life. They don't understand anything other than, this is what I was born into. This, to have a conversation with that person and say, hey, it's not supposed to be this way, dude. They're looking at you like, the fuck are you talking about? This is what I've always known. This is just the way that it is.

• 1:30:18Speaker 01

  Man, you better watch out. I gotta go pick this shit, man.

• 1:30:20Andy Frisella?

  Yeah, and listen, it's like explaining color.

• 1:30:23Speaker 01

  That's right.

• 1:30:23Andy Frisella?

  It's explaining color to someone who's blind.

• 1:30:26Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:30:26Andy Frisella?

  It's a very hard thing to make people understand.

• 1:30:30Speaker 01

  Well, I, I, I do say, and I will say this, yes, you, we're 1,000% right. People are born into the, especially in economics, people don't even have the rudimentaries of how finance works.

• 1:30:40Andy Frisella?

  Right.

• 1:30:41Speaker 01

  Right? And you tell, like, if you were to tell somebody how your business works, they'd look at you like you have three eyes.

• 1:30:45Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 1:30:46Speaker 01

  Same thing with monetary policy.

• 1:30:47Andy Frisella?

  Right.

• 1:30:48Speaker 01

  It's all, and it's always the buried lead. So the mainstream media is helping. And cover it up.

• 1:30:51Andy Frisella?

  Correct.

• 1:30:52Speaker 01

  They never teach you it in school, right?

• 1:30:54Andy Frisella?

  Right, no.

• 1:30:54Speaker 01

  Why would we want you to know how the money works?

• 1:30:56Andy Frisella?

  Not only do they not teach you at school, they, they, they, they, they handicap you intentionally so that you become a debt slave.

• 1:31:02Speaker 01

  That's right. That the whole thing, the entire public school system is a, is a factory for. But at the same time, I'll, again, I always go back to the people because there is a part of us.

• 1:31:15Speaker 01

  In our American culture that intuits, we have an intuition that something's gravely wrong. And where that little piece of us exists, there's more upside for riding the wave. The rise of all tides, so to speak, the rise of the baseline material wealth. And there is a, there is a rise of baseline material wealth in this country. That is on the same trajectory as the scam, which makes it even harder for people to connect with it because they're going shit 10 years ago. Uh, the, the appliances in, in my bathroom were porcelain. Now they're glass or stainless steel. Right? So as you get those little, and see the elites, this is how slick they are.

• 1:31:55Speaker 01

  If they can make the PlayStation or the iPhone or the internet or the appliances at your home or. Uh, the amenities in your apartment complex, just a little better, gradually, you won't get mad if they steal from you.

• 1:32:08Andy Frisella?

  They make you think it's better.

• 1:32:09Speaker 01

  That's right.

• 1:32:09Andy Frisella?

  Okay, this, and this goes into fucking brutalism and, and structural design and architecture as well. You know, um, look at the architecture from a hundred years ago versus now. Anybody that you showed it to would say, well, clearly it was better then. But little by little along the way, they do exactly what you're saying. Look how cool this is. Look at, look at this beautiful glass building with no soul and no, and these technology. And, and they convince you that it's better when it's not really better and you can't identify it until you look back and say. Fuck dude, when I bought a fridge back in, in the fucking eighties, that motherfucker last 40 years.

• 1:32:48Speaker 01

  Dude, I just went through that.

• 1:32:49Andy Frisella?

  Yeah, I know you did. Now I gotta replace them every three because they look cool.

• 1:32:53Speaker 01

  So, but, and, and at the same time, I'm still optimistic to some degree because with all of that downward pressure. From the media industrial complex and what they're feeding us and. You know, what they're selling at the public schools with all of that being said. More people than ever are starting to wake up and question.

• 1:33:13Andy Frisella?

  Absolutely.

• 1:33:13Speaker 01

  The problem with it is we're so late to the game. They can throw these little uh uh stones in the water, drop these rocks, these boulders in the water, and it creates a ripple where people have uh they they lose focus really quick on the plot. They lose the plot real quick.

• 1:33:28Andy Frisella?

  We're attention whores, bro.

• 1:33:29Speaker 01

  So in that sense, the conspiracy theories.

• 1:33:31Andy Frisella?

  It's not just that. When you condition people to fucking starve, you can make them think that they're at a feast by giving them a fucking cracker.

• 1:33:39Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:33:40Andy Frisella?

  Okay?

• 1:33:40Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:33:41Speaker 02

  Oh, man. Yeah. Dude, what what's the what's your take? What's the end result up in Minnesota?

• 1:33:48Speaker 01

  Uh.

• 1:33:49Speaker 02

  When it comes to this fraud shit, is Tim Walz going to jail?

• 1:33:52Speaker 01

  He sure as hell should be.

• 1:33:54Andy Frisella?

  Well, we're gonna get to that in the next topic.

• 1:33:56Speaker 02

  Yeah, that'll be the next topic.

• 1:33:57Speaker 01

  He sure as hell should be. I I don't think so. Look, I think this, I think people see President Trump as a political monolith to some degree, and they think that he can snap his fingers and make things happen, and in some in some sense he can. But at the same time, there are agencies and and the DOJ being one of them, right? And I'm not a huge fan of Pam Bondi.

• 1:34:19Andy Frisella?

  I'm not either.

• 1:34:20Speaker 01

  I I think that she's, you know.

• 1:34:22Andy Frisella?

  I think she's at very best, at the very best, she's incompetent.

• 1:34:26Speaker 02

  I I say, I think she might be retarded.

• 1:34:28Andy Frisella?

  Well, I'm just saying, at her best, she's incompetent.

• 1:34:30Speaker 01

  She she's, she is your prototypical institutionalist, uh, middle-of-the-road conservative woman who spent a lifetime in the legal system, which has been liberalized over thirty years.

• 1:34:41Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 1:34:41Speaker 01

  Right? And so she believes in the institution, and she believes that there is a way to do this uh that that that doesn't ruffle any feathers. She thinks there's a logical way to win the argument.

• 1:34:50Andy Frisella?

  Right.

• 1:34:51Speaker 01

  This is probably the problem with the entire conservative movement. Everybody thinks it's some type of intellectual highbrow debate. At some point in time, you gotta be ready to ball your fist up and just break the other dude's jaw.

• 1:35:01Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 1:35:01Speaker 01

  I don't know, because I'm a mixed martial artist. I kinda think that, yeah, we could debate, but at some point, and this is speaking to Pam Bondi metaphorically, break their jaw. I mean, don't even, because they would do it to you. They tried to throw President Trump in prison.

• 1:35:15Andy Frisella?

  That's the, okay.

• 1:35:16Speaker 01

  For the rest of his life.

• 1:35:17Andy Frisella?

  That, right there, is why people are saying that Trump is bought and paid for. Because they just watched him go through all this shit.

• 1:35:24Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm, get shot.

• 1:35:25Andy Frisella?

  And they're, and now he's up there and he's playing with fucking kitty gloves on, you know, uh, pacifying the political structure.

• 1:35:33Speaker 02

  Pulling ICE agents out of Minnesota.

• 1:35:34Andy Frisella?

  The reason he's doing it is because Trump still believes that.

• 1:35:40Andy Frisella?

  The foundational structure of America can be saved through the channels. And that's a, that's, that's a, that's false right now. That's not real. We have a fucking problem in this country that can only be solved through force. Okay, violence is the gold standard of fucking every language. Okay? Certain people, and by the way, if they don't drop the hammer, there will be mass violence eventually. That is what's happened historically in every

• 1:36:13Speaker 01

  Against us.

• 1:36:13Andy Frisella?

  Uh, uh, well, against us and them because we're gonna give it back.

• 1:36:17Speaker 01

  True.

• 1:36:18Andy Frisella?

  Yeah, but yes, a hundred percent.

• 1:36:20Speaker 01

  Well, but I always go back to this and, and, and we gotta be very careful here because never forget, and we just experienced this up in Minnesota. And remember, George Floyd, 2020, George Floyd wasn't a, a, a saintly figure by any means. But I did think what Derek Chauvin did was wrong. His prosecution was political and the fact that the governor and mayor made public statements made it impossible for him to have a fair trial.

• 1:36:42Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 1:36:42Speaker 01

  That's, that's just factual.

• 1:36:43Andy Frisella?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:36:43Speaker 01

  Okay, but my, my point you bring that up is this. The, the, uh, a pillar of the conservative movement is this thin blue line deal. Look at how many cops sided with these Democrat traitors on this immigration argument up in Minnesota. It blew my mind.

• 1:37:01Andy Frisella?

  Well, bro, the, the

• 1:37:03Speaker 01

  Eighty percent of them, wait a second, eighty percent of them took the shot.

• 1:37:06Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 1:37:06Speaker 01

  The cops, eighty percent of the military took the shot. This tells me one thing. Our law enforcement and our military are the best of us. They're, they're the people who, who have the best relationship with reality because what they do every day.

• 1:37:21Andy Frisella?

  That's right.

• 1:37:21Speaker 01

  So we should respect them and I do, I, I love hanging out with military guys because they just know what real, real is real, right? In the fog of war, real becomes more real than you can experience at home, everyday life. But they have their own crisis of being led by the institution. So I'm not so sure that if the Democrats

• 1:37:42Speaker 01

  Take back power and then you also got to realize that the the post world war two democrat liberal order has always placed a high premium on the military industrial complex so it's greasing their palms which is why you get so many former military guys that they put into these offices like Dan Crenshaw who stab us in the back but he's a Navy man so I'm just saying if we let the Democrats

• 1:38:05Andy Frisella?

  We've already learned that lesson. We learned it during

• 1:38:08Speaker 01

  They're gonna militarize their agenda this time.

• 1:38:09Andy Frisella?

  A hundred percent and that's why people are fucking pissed at Trump.

• 1:38:12Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:38:13Andy Frisella?

  They they understand what you're saying because they just went through covid and we saw motherfuckers get arrested for being at the fucking beach. Okay, we saw that and it's an unfair position for the police and the military to be in because they're being threatened with their livelihoods to follow orders and at some point in time there's going to come a time for the police and military where they have to honestly like ask themselves what do I actually believe in what do I why did I take this oath and what do I stand for and that's a very, very important thing for people to do if you're one of these people.

• 1:38:50Speaker 01

  Our our military and our police have become a victim of Marxism.

• 1:38:57Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 1:38:58Speaker 01

  Reducing the human existence down to price.

• 1:39:00Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 1:39:00Speaker 01

  Even our military veterans with their pensions and their retirement and our law enforcement officers with the benefit, right, they are incentivized as well by the the call to survival economically.

• 1:39:11Andy Frisella?

  For their own families.

• 1:39:11Speaker 01

  Which means the people who the people who control the flow of money control them.

• 1:39:16Andy Frisella?

  Correct.

• 1:39:16Speaker 01

  And it's sacred honor this, how am I gonna ask and think of this and this is I'm saying I'm just I'm just trying to be real.

• 1:39:22Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 1:39:23Speaker 01

  All right.

• 1:39:23Andy Frisella?

  It's real, yeah, bud.

• 1:39:24Speaker 01

  I'm just trying to be real.

• 1:39:25Andy Frisella?

  No, bro, like that's what we do here.

• 1:39:27Speaker 01

  I love our police officers. They get a raw deal. That's why I didn't bring people to the police represent, I said the Federal Reserve. These people are working class people but how am I supposed to expect some 18 year old girl?

• 1:39:41Speaker 01

  Who watches TikTok all day and has been brainwashed with feminism since the since the first day she stepped into school to have any sacred honor if our 20 year naval vets still brag about going over into a war that we should have never been at in the first place. How can I expect this 20 year old girl, this 20 year old white liberal suburban, for lack of a better term, mentally impaired, right? Brainwashed, how can I expect her to have any type of relationship with sacred honor? An idea like sacred honor?

• 1:40:17Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 1:40:17Speaker 01

  If General Milley's backstabbing President Trump and talking to the Chinese?

• 1:40:21Andy Frisella?

  Yeah, right, right.

• 1:40:22Speaker 01

  You know, so you know what I'm saying?

• 1:40:23Andy Frisella?

  Yeah, I do. It's a problem.

• 1:40:24Speaker 01

  That's dark, but it's easily, it's fixable. Because I think if you get a, this is where leadership is important, it's a crisis of leadership. It's a failure of citizenship, but a crisis of leadership. The citizens aren't going to rise to the occasion in this sense. Technology's too good, the high is too, too good. But you can have leaders from the top down that start to fundamentally change the culture, just like in the neighborhood, one person can do a disproportionate amount of damage. In politics, one person can have a disproportionate influence on the, the trajectory of things. Where President Trump, again, needs to go max, but some of these military people in here, and, and even law enforcement, like the mayor here in Minneapolis, I mean, you guys gotta have some sacred honor.

• 1:41:05Speaker 01

  And if you don't, it's incumbent upon somebody higher than you to drop the hammer on your ass.

• 1:41:10Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 1:41:10Speaker 01

  And, and you know, it, it has to come to that ultimately because, again, our national more enemies, they're not having this problem.

• 1:41:19Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 1:41:19Speaker 01

  China, not having this problem. They, they, we are losing a war with China, right? They're laughing at us.

• 1:41:27Andy Frisella?

  We're not losing a war to China, we're losing a war to ourselves.

• 1:41:30Speaker 01

  True, but what I'm saying is, the Chinese.

• 1:41:33Andy Frisella?

  A hundred percent.

• 1:41:34Speaker 01

  They, they are very, they are much older civilization than ours and they're much more patient. Their culture is patience and they view themselves as divine. They, they view their, they're very ethno-national, they view the Chinese race as a supreme.

• 1:41:52Speaker 01

  Race. Well, they're not the only ones. These people, first of all, they they view that they owe us too from World War II. Despite their feud with the Japanese and their hatred for the Japanese, that's still their part of the world. They view they owe us too. Okay? They owe us from the Opium Wars. That's why you got fentanyl flooding your streets through Mexican proxies. These people are waiting for us to collapse. And see, Xi and the Chinese, they're smart because they're saying, we're gonna hold the power base together by totalitarian means. As long as we continue to, you know, elucidate what appears to be a a a rising China from when we went in in the seventies with Kissinger, the Chinese people, for the most part, will not revolt.

• 1:42:35Speaker 01

  That's how Xi could become president for life and have full-blown surveillance in their elections. You can't even vote in China the way you want to without the government knowing about it. Yeah, who's gonna vote against that? Exactly, right? So they had this shit sorted out in in the crash course, in the collision course with us. And this is, I tell you this all the time. Yes, America first, but we also have to consider our enemies and how we go about America first. American, because you get all these libertarians, right? Like Massey, and I like Massey. I love his debt clock. I think Massey says a lot of things that are right. He's he's got more stones than a lot of people in the Congress, and I don't like the feud between him and President Trump. Yeah. I feel like it's more personal than it is political.

• 1:43:18Speaker 01

  Because Massey and Rand, Massey, Rand Paul was the President Trump of, and we ran Mitt Romney instead. I mean, what an indictment of the Republican Party. Okay, but Massey, answer me this question, brother. And I've asked him, I've sent a message to his team. Answer me this question. If you're telling me that the Congress is ninety percent plus, ninety-five percent plus bought and paid for by AIPAC and Israel's influence, how are you gonna tell the president to go to that same Congress to take military action? See, there's all these constitutionalists in there now from the libertarian wing that are saying, well, hold on, President Trump, even Rand. And I like Rand. I think he's a little squishy. His father was better, but, you know, Rand is a good one to the extent.

• 1:44:01Speaker 01

  And he comes out, well, they shouldn't wear masks. The ICE agents shouldn't be wearing masks. And I I get it. But you only can make that comment if you have no consideration at all about what we face across the water and the fact that we ran you. How is it and I again, I'm not being hypercritical of Rand and Thomas Massey. But how is it that Rand spent two decades in politics there from Kentucky? And somehow Mitch McConnell comes out of there too?

• 1:44:30Andy Frisella?

  Yeah, that doesn't make sense.

• 1:44:31Speaker 01

  How is it that Tom, who votes for Massey, Rand, Paul and Mitch McConnell?

• 1:44:35Andy Frisella?

  Nobody.

• 1:44:36Speaker 01

  So the people in Kentucky must be just as fucked up as the people in Minnesota. So in my

• 1:44:40Andy Frisella?

  Or

• 1:44:41Speaker 01

  Or it's not real.

• 1:44:42Andy Frisella?

  That's right.

• 1:44:43Speaker 01

  Okay, now, now we're getting there. So my, and my point is.

• 1:44:47Speaker 01

  They're responsible for President Trump's need to go max. So I don't want to hear this from any Republicans or Democrats, oh, he's violating the Constitution. You all didn't defend the Constitution when we could have applied the Constitution more, more practically. Now, the Constitution is so blown out.

• 1:45:08Andy Frisella?

  Yeah, it, it, he, it's, it's, look dude, we're so far away from being what this country constitutionally is supposed to be. That trying to behave as if that's a reality.

• 1:45:20Speaker 01

  Naive.

• 1:45:21Andy Frisella?

  It's, it's not even naive. People are seeing it as evil.

• 1:45:24Speaker 01

  That's right.

• 1:45:24Andy Frisella?

  Okay, like, and this is why we're seeing, like, the average person, they understand that, like, they see that. And when they see Trump not doing anything, they see, oh, well, fuck, he's in on it then.

• 1:45:36Speaker 01

  Well, and

• 1:45:37Andy Frisella?

  That's what they're seeing.

• 1:45:38Speaker 01

  And he has to own, and, and with all due respect, Mr. President, I supported him as much as anybody else since 2022.

• 1:45:44Andy Frisella?

  Motherfucker, we all did.

• 1:45:45Speaker 01

  And, and, and look, I was, I got a billboard, I, I got a, three billboards made with his face and my face. I can't tell you how much heat I took. Well, why are you putting your face on a billboard? Well, he's a racist. You know what? Shut your fucking mouth. Bill Clinton was a, a, a damn, all of them were in on it. Okay? President Trump's the first one to say, wait a second, this deal, this deal we have going is messed up. And the tax, not taxing the tips, not taxing the overtime and not taxing social security, groundbreaking economically. You gotta give him his credit, but. People are right to question whether or not he is in on it.

• 1:46:21Andy Frisella?

  I know.

• 1:46:21Speaker 01

  They're right to question it. Am I saying that he is? What I'm gonna say is, I think he's playing a very dangerous game. Let me tell, you get, you get four bullets zoom past your head and, and-

• 1:46:31Andy Frisella?

  And tell me you don't move different.

• 1:46:33Speaker 01

  And tell me how people, and this is, this is the even more scary reality. I don't think, if your average American citizen doesn't understand how the Fed works, imagine trying to explain to them how the CIA works. They don't even realize that the CIA is its own country.

• 1:46:47Andy Frisella?

  They don't-

• 1:46:47Speaker 01

  They think Tulsi, they really think Tulsi Gabbard is, is, is running things over at the CIA. She's got no control over that agency.

• 1:46:55Andy Frisella?

  They don't even understand, the CIA has a literal budget and you can fucking read it for making movies to glorify the CIA.

• 1:47:04Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:47:05Andy Frisella?

  Okay, why would they need that? Why would they need that?

• 1:47:09Speaker 01

  Cause they coined the term conspiracy theorist and they're masters of propaganda and they'll kill you.

• 1:47:14Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 1:47:14Speaker 01

  Or they'll have their buddies over at Messiah do it. I mean, it's just-

• 1:47:17Andy Frisella?

  I know.

• 1:47:17Speaker 01

  He, he, he understands that he's in danger and I think he's trying to thread a needle. You, when you're a president and I think about this myself as being a US senate candidate, I'm a little different than President Trump in that I'm stupid enough and not read in to just say whatever the fuck I think.

• 1:47:31Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 1:47:31Speaker 01

  Right? So I'm a little wonky that way, but I'm, I haven't been read into the top security clearance and there's probably a lot of fake material that he's being fed as well-

• 1:47:40Andy Frisella?

  For sure.

• 1:47:40Speaker 01

  In his own administration.

• 1:47:42Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 1:47:42Speaker 01

  We know that this is going, so I think he's trying to thread a needle. I think people gotta give him some grace.

• 1:47:48Andy Frisella?

  I think I, I think I'd have a good idea of exactly what's happening.

• 1:47:51Speaker 01

  Go ahead.

• 1:47:51Andy Frisella?

  Yeah, well-

• 1:47:52Speaker 01

  I'd love to hear-

• 1:47:53Andy Frisella?

  It's gonna have to go with this third topic.

• 1:47:54Speaker 02

  Let's go to three.

• 1:47:55Speaker 01

  Yeah, perfect, Epstein.

• 1:47:56Speaker 02

  Yeah, let's keep going, man. We got headline three, guys. Let's get to the Epstein stuff, dude. There's some shit going on there.

• 1:48:01Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 1:48:02Speaker 02

  So let's check in with it.

• 1:48:03Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 1:48:03Speaker 02

  Appreciate you guys hanging in there.

• 1:48:05Andy Frisella?

  I, I've got some, I've got some-

• 1:48:07Speaker 02

  You got some?

• 1:48:07Andy Frisella?

  Theories.

• 1:48:08Speaker 02

  Yeah. Well, I mean, we're all-

• 1:48:09Andy Frisella?

  As I always do.

• 1:48:10Speaker 02

  Theres here, so.

• 1:48:11Andy Frisella?

  I know Royce has some theories too.

• 1:48:12Speaker 02

  Yeah, let's dive into it.

• 1:48:13Andy Frisella?

  Just ask the internet.

• 1:48:14Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's right.

• 1:48:15Speaker 01

  I wanna hear what you think.

• 1:48:17Speaker 02

  Yeah, let's check it out, man. Uh, yeah, no, Ian, no. No. It's not Ian. No.

• 1:48:24Speaker 02

  Kingdom of Heaven, you seen that movie Kingdom of Heaven?

• 1:48:25Speaker 01

  Good movie.

• 1:48:26Speaker 02

  Phenomenal.

• 1:48:26Andy Frisella?

  That's a great movie.

• 1:48:27Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:48:27Andy Frisella?

  Phenomenal.

• 1:48:28Speaker 02

  That's where I'm at. Phenomenal.

• 1:48:29Andy Frisella?

  That's where I'm at with shit.

• 1:48:30Speaker 02

  Bro, God wills it.

• 1:48:32Speaker 01

  That's right.

• 1:48:32Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 1:48:33Speaker 02

  Give me the fucking mask. Uh, no Lutheran.

• 1:48:35Speaker 01

  Lutheran, alright.

• 1:48:36Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:48:36Speaker 01

  When you saying stuff like, God wills it.

• 1:48:38Speaker 02

  I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm.

• 1:48:40Speaker 01

  You might be on your way to the, I'm gonna bring you to the Catholic.

• 1:48:44Andy Frisella?

  I'm, I'm with, I'm with whoever wants to put some heads on some fucking stakes.

• 1:48:48Speaker 02

  That's right.

• 1:48:48Andy Frisella?

  Alright, that's what I'm with.

• 1:48:50Speaker 02

  That's right. Hell yeah, man. Well, let's get to headline three, man. Let's get on the Epstein dialogue. Um, there's some things happening. So, so one of the biggest moves that just happened with this whole Epstein situation is that you now have some lawmakers that have been allowed to review the unredacted Epstein files. Okay? Um, it's quite a bit. And, and along with that.

• 1:49:10Andy Frisella?

  That happened today?

• 1:49:11Speaker 02

  Yeah, it started, yeah, it started happening today. Okay? Um, and along with that, there, there's been a couple of things. So, right now, you got Thomas Massey. Um, you got Ro Khanna from California. They're among some of the members of Congress that are viewing the unredacted versions of the Justice Department's files on Jeffrey Epstein today. Um, and, uh, they were allowed to start reviewing that stuff this morning. Um, and so that's been happening. At the same exact time, you got Ghislaine Maxwell being deposed. Well, they attempted to depose her. Um, and she's not saying shit. Right? And she's tying everything that she's gonna speak on, she's tying that to a clemency deal with Trump.

• 1:49:50Andy Frisella?

  And Clinton.

• 1:49:51Speaker 02

  And Clinton.

• 1:49:51Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 1:49:52Speaker 02

  Which is weird.

• 1:49:53Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 1:49:54Speaker 02

  Which is weird.

• 1:49:54Andy Frisella?

  She said that she would, she would be able to clear Trump and Bill Clinton of any wrongdoing if she was granted clemency.

• 1:50:02Speaker 02

  Right. Right.

• 1:50:03Andy Frisella?

  And then the lawyers made her plead the fifth.

• 1:50:04Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm. That was, and that was literally it, right? And so you had the, uh, some of the, the congressmen and women, they, they came out from that and like, yeah, I mean, she didn't say anything. She was just pleading the fifth and that was it. Lawyers made a statement and then that was it. Um, so really nothing else coming out of that.

• 1:50:19Speaker 02

  But uh, and but but she has committed to speaking honestly, quote unquote, if she was granted clemency by President Donald Trump. Um, and then one more big piece that came out today was Steve Bannon. Uh, the Justice Department has moved to dismiss its long-running criminal case against Steve Bannon, uh, that tied to his refusal to testify before the Congressional Committee that investigated the J6 riots. Um, so you got a lot of stuff happening there, but with this Epstein stuff coming out, the files that have been released thus far, uh, you have pretty much the entire government of the UK collapsing it right now, like in real time, that's happening. Um,

• 1:50:57Andy Frisella?

  It should.

• 1:50:58Speaker 02

  As it should, as it should.

• 1:51:00Andy Frisella?

  For other reasons besides this, but like,

• 1:51:02Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, it's completely collapsing. Um, you know, we, we've covered the Peter, uh, Mendelison stuff that came out, right? The former ambassador to the US, who, uh, he resigned. I mean,

• 1:51:14Andy Frisella?

  I hope, I hope the people in the UK, uh, understand that this is like their one and only opportunity ever,

• 1:51:20Speaker 02

  Bro.

• 1:51:21Andy Frisella?

  To reclaim their fucking country.

• 1:51:22Speaker 02

  They're not getting it again.

• 1:51:23Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 1:51:23Speaker 02

  They're not getting it.

• 1:51:24Andy Frisella?

  So the question becomes, once something collapses, what's replacing it?

• 1:51:28Speaker 02

  Exactly.

• 1:51:28Andy Frisella?

  And if they don't fucking take control and replace it with what they actually want, it's gonna be bad for them.

• 1:51:33Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's gonna be a bunch of fucking Aloha snack bars.

• 1:51:36Andy Frisella?

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:51:36Speaker 02

  Is what it's gonna be.

• 1:51:37Andy Frisella?

  There already is that.

• 1:51:37Speaker 02

  You know, um, so you have,

• 1:51:39Andy Frisella?

  On every corner.

• 1:51:40Speaker 02

  Dude, it's, it's, it's come, it's, it's, it's, they're culturally, they're gone.

• 1:51:45Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 1:51:45Speaker 02

  Culturally, the UK's gone.

• 1:51:47Andy Frisella?

  We'll see.

• 1:51:48Speaker 02

  So we, we shall see. Uh, now with that dude, also all of this stuff's coming out, right? I mean, you even got Prince William and Princess Catherine, they're deeply concerned about the Epstein revelations coming out, right? And I'm kinda like this dude, there's this clip of this dude, uh, he was in the airport. I don't know if you guys have seen this clip. I, I got this clip. This is kinda where I'm at. Check this out.

• 1:52:17Speaker 03

  Epstein files have been released and all of y'all are acting normal.

• 1:52:23Speaker 02

  That's where I'm at. That's where I'm at.

• 1:52:26Speaker 03

  They can laugh, but y'all can Google it. They can laugh, but y'all can...

• 1:52:32Speaker 01

  He's saying all of y'all are acting normal?

• 1:52:34Speaker 02

  Yeah, he's like, "The Epstein files have been released and all of y'all are acting normal." This is Atlanta Airport. That's kinda where I'm at, dude, cuz I'm like, "Where the... What the fuck is happening?" I think this was like... Yesterday or the day before? Yeah. Oh, no shit?

• 1:52:52Speaker 02

  For those... But he said he was at that airport where that happened. What airport is this? Atlanta. You were there? Really? That's crazy. Oh, yeah, you won. Congrats, bro. That's the BJJ guy. He's not that good. He got the gold.

• 1:53:06Speaker 01

  Shout out to the Jiu-Jitsu operators.

• 1:53:08Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:53:12Speaker 02

  No, but that's kinda where I'm at, dude. And so with that, though, a couple of... You know, a couple of key things, right? We've always explained it as like, "This is happening, but what's happening over here?" Right? And with this whole Epstein stuff that's happening inside of that, you have Thomas Massey, who was just on an interview. He was asked specifically about some of the Epstein stuff that happened. Let's check this clip. It's just starting to gain some traction. Tell me what you guys think.

• 1:53:42Speaker 04

  Also, I'm gonna say this here on camera cuz it's important.

• 1:53:48Speaker 04

  One of Cash Patel's staff threatened my staff with a criminal investigation if we didn't straighten up and play ball.

• 1:53:59Speaker 05

  I was gonna ask you about that, but since you brought it up and I didn't bring it up...

• 1:54:02Speaker 04

  I'm bringing it up.

• 1:54:02Speaker 05

  Okay, you brought it up.

• 1:54:05Speaker 04

  And so...

• 1:54:05Speaker 02

  Smart dude.

• 1:54:07Speaker 04

  Like, a criminal investigation having nothing to do... He said it was gonna be a fraud. "We're gonna investigate one of your staff for fraud." And he told another one of my staff this. "If you guys don't straighten up, you know, if you wanna play hardball, if this is how you wanna play it," or something like that. This member of your staff is going to get criminally investigated for fraud. A very specific threat.

• 1:54:33Speaker 02

  And so he's saying that this was in reference to the Epstein stuff. That one of Cash Patel's guys reached out to one of his guys and told him, hey, this is what was about to happen. If you guys don't straighten the fuck up. Okay, that's weird by itself. And then in another tweet that he just pushed out. Um, cause like we, and we've talked about this, like, I don't know past Massey personally, right? I've never met the guy. On the whole, he kind of seems legit. I like him. I, I don't have any reasons to say I don't like him, but I don't know him personally, right? To speak on his character or anything like that. Um, but he's like I said in the beginning, he's been one of the lawmakers that was allowed to start seeing some of this unredacted shit. Um, and he tweeted this out today. Um, uh, this evening, a couple of hours before we started sitting down and record.

• 1:55:15Speaker 02

  He, uh, he says, quote, "A Sultan seems to have sent this DOJ should make this public." Um, and this is a piece of the Epstein files. Uh, where this person who is a Sultan, right? According to Thomas Massey, because he knows who it was. Has sent, uh, received an email from Jeffrey Epstein saying, "Where are you? Are you okay? I loved the torture video." To which this redacted Sultan replied, "I am in China. I will be in the US second week of May." Okay, now. You guys know how the internet works.

• 1:55:59Speaker 02

  The internet never deletes itself. There's wayback machines. You can search fucking political records and travel logs. Okay, right now. They figured out who it was. The working theory is that this is actually Bibi Netanyahu. No. Because the timeline of this, I mean, anybody can go back to, to May of 2009. Okay, Bibi Netanyahu was in China and then the United States in the second week of May. What about Aheir Barak?

• 1:56:32Speaker 02

  I haven't seen that that link.

• 1:56:33Andy Frisella?

  Don't him and Netanyahu fucking travel together?

• 1:56:35Speaker 02

  They do typically.

• 1:56:37Andy Frisella?

  And uh for people that don't understand, Ehud Barak is the globalist.

• 1:56:41Speaker 02

  Right.

• 1:56:41Andy Frisella?

  It's not actually Netanyahu.

• 1:56:43Speaker 02

  Right.

• 1:56:43Andy Frisella?

  Ehud Barak is the one who is promoting the migration into the Western culture and that's all his shit.

• 1:56:50Speaker 02

  Mm hmm.

• 1:56:51Andy Frisella?

  So it's very, this is not me sticking up for Netanyahu. I don't like him either, but.

• 1:56:59Speaker 02

  So, so you got.

• 1:57:00Andy Frisella?

  Ehud Barak and Jeffrey Epstein are peanut butter and jelly, bro.

• 1:57:03Speaker 02

  Right, right.

• 1:57:04Andy Frisella?

  So.

• 1:57:05Speaker 02

  They have one without the other.

• 1:57:06Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 1:57:06Speaker 02

  So I mean, it's, it's, it's interesting, right? And so Massey pushes this out.

• 1:57:10Andy Frisella?

  Why would he call him a Sultan?

• 1:57:12Speaker 02

  I don't know. That piece I don't know.

• 1:57:14Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 1:57:14Speaker 02

  That piece I don't know.

• 1:57:15Speaker 01

  That's weird.

• 1:57:16Speaker 02

  It's, it's fucker, but I know this.

• 1:57:17Speaker 01

  That's some real cryptic language.

• 1:57:19Speaker 02

  You got a dude in black and white telling you that he likes the torture videos that allegedly this dude fucking sends him. I'm sorry. That's more than just a implication. That's more like, you're fucking in it. Who the fuck is this guy? Why is this being redacted? Fucking release this name. Like this isn't some ambiguous fucking could be misinterpreted, could be like, that's pretty fucking clear if you ask me.

• 1:57:45Andy Frisella?

  It could also be, uh, he saw a clip on the internet of some fucking depraved shit like the rest of us have all seen and shared it with him.

• 1:57:53Speaker 02

  It's possible. It's possible.

• 1:57:55Andy Frisella?

  Okay. We, the problem is, is that we don't know.

• 1:57:58Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:57:59Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:57:59Andy Frisella?

  You understand?

• 1:58:00Speaker 02

  So why?

• 1:58:00Andy Frisella?

  Like how many times have you and I sent videos and said, oh, the dude got his fucking face blown off. Check this out.

• 1:58:05Speaker 02

  Mm hmm. No, I get it, but why redact it?

• 1:58:08Andy Frisella?

  I, I get it.

• 1:58:09Speaker 02

  You know what I'm saying?

• 1:58:09Speaker 01

  Uh, okay. Well, I want to hear your theories for, well, are you?

• 1:58:13Speaker 02

  Last little piece, last little piece because to your, I know we talked a little bit earlier, right? This last little piece on this dude is fucking weird. It just got revealed, okay? That there was a $100,000 check from the Tides Foundation to Ghislaine Maxwell's Terramar Project. Okay? That same foundation is also connected to the Super Bowl commercial that featured all of those.

• 1:58:43Speaker 02

  Oh, BB Netanyahu, guys. BB Netanyahu. The audio cut out. Holy, oh. Yeah. Right? Right? Alright.

• 1:58:53Andy Frisella?

  Bro, I tell you about how it's getting kicked off the streams and shit. I'll tell you after the show.

• 1:58:57Speaker 02

  So, so, so, that same foundation, the Tides Foundation, is the same foundation that's also connected to the Super Bowl commercial that featured all of these Epstein victims, right? Which was produced by a company called World Without Exploitation. It's a project operating under the Tides Center. The Tides Center is funded by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation and George Soros Open Society Foundation. So, the Tides Foundation and the Tides Center, they're separate entities operating under the same network. So, that commercial that was played during the Super Bowl, right? With all these victims of Jeffrey Epstein. It's just weird. I think that that is fucking weird.

• 1:59:42Speaker 02

  That allegedly some abusers and now you're working with the victims? How does that make sense?

• 1:59:51Speaker 02

  After years of being kept apart...

• 1:59:53Speaker 01

  Well, the easy answer on that one is it's crazy and inappropriate. It should be unacceptable. But, that is typically how this global corporate community works. Going all the way back to when I said in the beginning. Because remember when the tobacco companies did the same thing and they funded all of the anti-tobacco ads? This is how the corporations, they actually think that's an appeasement. Which makes them even more sick and twisted, but...

• 2:00:14Speaker 02

  It's fucked up.

• 2:00:14Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:00:15Andy Frisella?

  So, they think, so what you're saying is? They know, they know that people are gonna figure out that they're funding this. And that people are gonna say, well, why would they fund this if they're guilty?

• 2:00:28Speaker 01

  No, I think even more, they're just saying... We're doing, we're doing what we can. This is a bad situation and we don't really know who did what because the files are redacted, but we're trying to make amends and you gotta think, maybe they can convince. It's not about convincing the public because if they can keep this stuff redacted as long as possible, the only people they have to convince are these-

• 2:00:49Speaker 02

  So it's like plausible deniability.

• 2:00:50Speaker 01

  Grand jurors and the people inside the administration.

• 2:00:53Speaker 02

  What do you mean us? We funded the fucking ad on the Super Bowl.

• 2:00:56Speaker 01

  They're just trying to paper it over. It ain't gonna work. I mean, this is too deep. This ain't the type of thing that that's gonna work, but you don't know how they're gonna try and fence it to the public.

• 2:01:05Speaker 02

  Right.

• 2:01:06Speaker 01

  You know, so it's-

• 2:01:06Speaker 02

  I see it as controlling both sides of the fucking propaganda.

• 2:01:10Andy Frisella?

  I hadn't seen this until just now.

• 2:01:11Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah, dude. This should, I mean, this is fresh off the press, baby.

• 2:01:15Speaker 01

  That's really weird.

• 2:01:15Speaker 02

  You know what I'm saying? So I, I don't know, dude. There's a lot here.

• 2:01:18Andy Frisella?

  Think this through.

• 2:01:18Speaker 02

  Yeah, bro. Yeah. Well, what you got on it, dog?

• 2:01:22Andy Frisella?

  Well, I mean, this goes back to what we're talking about with Trump. You know, I, I agree.

• 2:01:33Andy Frisella?

  So, everybody's pissed at Trump right now. That's just the reality, okay? And

• 2:01:43Andy Frisella?

  I agree with you that he's trying to thread the needle in some way, shape, or form, but I also

• 2:01:50Andy Frisella?

  believe that they, this is what I see happening, dude. Like, I just see shit from a different angle than everybody else because I live in strategy world. That's what I do for my companies.

• 2:02:06Andy Frisella?

  The way I think about what's going on and the way I see it, and I am not saying that this is what's going on. I'm saying this is the way I see it.

• 2:02:16Andy Frisella?

  Trump is not a fucking idiot. Contrary to what people want to say about him or this or that, the dude's smart. And he's very strategically smart. And when we look at

• 2:02:30Andy Frisella?

  what just happened with the, the drop of 3 million files. Okay? His, for the last seven years that this has been talked about, and it's been talked about by other people for much longer. Alex Jones has been talking about it for 20 years. All right? But it's gathered steam over the last six, seven years.

• 2:02:54Andy Frisella?

  When I have had to go, and I'll give you a practical example about this. When I have had discussions with people who are not very knowledgeable about what's going on. And I look at them and I say, hey, there's a fucking pedophile blackmail ring where kids are being harvested, farmed, tortured, and sometimes eaten.

• 2:03:18Andy Frisella?

  Okay, what the fuck do you think that the people outside of the quote unquote no think when I say that to them? Yeah, you're fucking crazy. You're fucking insane, bro. You've lost your goddamn mind. You are, Andy, what are you, what are you? Like dude, I've had successful friends of mine, people that you know their names. Look at me and be like, bro, like you need to touch some grass, man. Like it's so unbelievable and it's so bad. That a normal person can't comprehend it. It'll break their fucking structure of what they believe reality to be. Ours broke a long time ago, which is what has allowed us to question historical events and to look into things and to

• 2:04:04Andy Frisella?

  go back to 1913, what happened in World War I and World War II and all of these things. And it's allowed us to see the propaganda for what it is. The regular person has not had that yet. They have not had that understanding that everything that they believe is a fucking lie. They don't get it. Okay. So when you say this to these people, they think you're fucking crazy. Okay. Now what's happened over the last week or so that has changed that? Oh, Donald Trump's name is in the Epstein files. Okay. And anybody with any reading or actual comprehension skill can go into the Epstein files right now and see

• 2:04:49Andy Frisella?

  that none of the shit that Donald Trump's name is on is actually anything to have to do with

• 2:04:56Andy Frisella?

  kids or any of this fucking crazy shit. Okay.

• 2:05:01Andy Frisella?

  But it needs to be in there for the simple reason that it forces everybody else to say, "Holy shit, this is real." Okay, so you have half of the Epstein files, it's 3 million pages, you've got another half that's yet to drop.

• 2:05:19Andy Frisella?

  This drops on people and it forces everybody outside the fucking quote-unquote conspiracy circle to say, "Holy shit, this might be real." Yeah, right. Okay? And the people on the left are gobbling it the fuck up now because they hate Trump so bad. They want to get Trump no matter what. But what that's done is that's forced them to accept this is real. Okay? Now, if you've got everybody looking at it and saying, "Oh, it's real," and you're holding back 3 million documents, and by the way, for people who kind of know what's been going on, the really bad shit hasn't come out. No. Okay? And then they drop that on everybody.

• 2:06:02Andy Frisella?

  We're gonna have total public outrage, which gives Trump the position, if he so chooses, to hold those people accountable outside of the typical fucking standard of law or the Constitution. People are demanding. Okay? Because people are going to say they are fucking killing fucking kids. I don't care what you have to do, put these people on fucking stakes. The temperature has to be that for him to hold those people accountable. If he were to try to come in on day one and arrest everybody the way that people wanted him to, everybody in the whole world would have been saying, "He's a dictator, he's

• 2:06:43Andy Frisella?

  fucking taking over the country, we'd have NATO here, we'd have outside forces aligning with NATO, and we'd have a fucking military force on this country to liberate us." Okay?

• 2:06:57Andy Frisella?

  What I believe is actually happening is that the table is being set for accountability. And if I'm wrong, we're gonna know in 30 days. Okay, and if I'm wrong, then that means that we're gonna have to do it as men. I'm okay with that. But you have to understand, you can't hold people accountable. No government system that's ever existed over the course of human history took any severe action towards the other side of the government without intense public pressure. Okay, and so this is why when people say nothing's going to happen, it's such a terrible thing to say,

• 2:07:40Andy Frisella?

  because you're actually creating a scenario where nothing will happen by saying nothing's going to happen. What needs to happen in this country, if we want accountability, there needs to be so much public pressure for accountability that the person, whether it's Trump or whoever, replace Trump with somebody else you like or don't like. It doesn't matter. If it was Andy Frisella as president, and I walked in on first day, and I arrested everybody, the same outcome would happen. I, as the leader, would have to create public fucking demand in order for me to take the action necessary to solve the problem.

• 2:08:21Andy Frisella?

  If you look at what happened over the weekend with the tax video, or the stolen election video. Okay, and you look at what happened. This is exactly the same thing on a different issue, where they got people enraged, but now people are looking. Fuck Diddy posts. Okay, now, what that is, is that's just a play on how public...

• 2:08:50Andy Frisella?

  Perception works nowadays, okay? Look at all the Instagram influencers, look at all the social, how do they, how do they get their fucking clout? They start drama, they start beef, they fucking, they play the audience. Okay, look at how Jake Paul's created this amazing fucking brand for his boxing. It's, he's created controversy, people watch him fight. Do you know, by the way, that Jake Paul and Donald Trump are pretty fucking tight? Just so you know, okay? So, when we think about how he's playing public perception, in my opinion, there's really only one way to hold those people accountable, and it seems to be unfolding, in my opinion.

• 2:09:32Andy Frisella?

  Now, I could be wrong, and if I'm wrong, and these child predators and these murderers and these blackmailers are not held accountable, then we will have to do it as American men. That is real shit, because I, like everybody else who has decency in their heart, is, I cannot live in a country that is ruled by people who do such things. I refuse to.

• 2:09:54Speaker 01

  Amen.

• 2:09:55Andy Frisella?

  And we as men need to understand two things right now. One, we should be putting pressure on Trump for accountability, and, and, and, and, and two, we should be accepting the reality that this could be a situation where we have to get our fucking hands dirty for real, if it doesn't happen.

• 2:10:14Speaker 01

  Amen.

• 2:10:14Andy Frisella?

  Okay? That's all I'm saying, and that's not me polishing Trump's nuts. That's not me saying he's playing 7D chess. This is basic strategy that should be able to be seen by people, but, you know, I understand why they can't, because they don't live in a strategic mindset 24 hours a day.

• 2:10:33Speaker 01

  Right.

• 2:10:33Andy Frisella?

  So, that's what I see happening, and it seems to be playing out more and more every day. And our role in this is to be loud and vocal, and tell him that this is what the fuck we want, bro. The reason we're pissed at you is not because of any other reason that you're not going hard enough, dude, and you're making us feel like you are part of the fucking cabal that you've sworn to drain. Okay, and we've lost hope in that, and that's why people are pissed at him.

• 2:11:08Andy Frisella?

  I think personally, if Trump were to go hard and he were to hold these people accountable, you would see his approval rating go to fucking 98%. When we look at what happened post 9/11, okay? The day after 9/11, everybody was an American. It was so outrageous, so terrible, and we all saw that we did not give a single fuck how they were held accountable. All we knew is that we wanted fucking blood. Come to find out, the whole thing was fucking engineered, okay? And what did we do? Oh, we went to war for 20 motherfucking years and killed millions of innocent people on the idea of something that- Somebody fucked us, yeah. Okay.

• 2:11:53Andy Frisella?

  Yeah. So if he can build that public outrage around something that's true, he will be justified in holding the accountability. There's no other way for him to have done it. Yeah. Okay? Really think about this. Okay? And you could be critical of Trump, and I am. I fu- dude, if he doesn't do it, he's the worst motherfucking president that ever walked in the face of the earth. He will go down in history as the man who fucking lost America. And you can argue whether Trump is a good guy or a bad guy or this or that, but one thing we all know about Trump is Trump loves fucking Trump. And I can promise you, a deep part of who he is wants to be known as the greatest American president ever.

• 2:12:35Andy Frisella?

  And we have to let him know that if you are going to be considered the greatest American president ever, you are going to have to follow through on all of the promises that you made to free us from this corrupt shit. That's it. Yeah. Okay? That's what I personally see. And I know a lot of people are gonna clip this out of context and they're gonna say, "Andy's fucking a MAGA nutsucker." No, I'm not. At all. I'm not at all. I am pro-freedom and I am a patriot and I believe that our country by design, when run by design, is a perfect fucking country. The boundaries have not been obeyed, corruption has been allowed in, and we are dealing with

• 2:13:18Andy Frisella?

  a fucking infectious disease that has to be cut out, or we will die. And that's what we're dealing with now. And-

• 2:13:26Andy Frisella?

  I think people should be enraged about this Epstein shit.

• 2:13:29Speaker 01

  Stay in.

• 2:13:30Andy Frisella?

  I think people should stay enraged about it, and I think they need to let President Trump know through their voice and not in a, not in the way that people do where they're just like, fuck this motherfucker. I think it needs to be like, hey,

• 2:13:45Andy Frisella?

  we demand this. And if you don't do it, we're gonna fucking do it. And that needs to be the fucking message. Cause I'm gonna tell you right now, and I mean this shit. If they are not held accountable, I will be the first motherfucker out there because dude, I'm not going to sit in front of and be judged by God. God can say a lot of things about me. He could say all kinds of shit, but one thing he's not gonna fucking say is that you look the other way when fucking little kids and women and shit were raped and murdered and fuck and by and then, and then you didn't do shit. I'm not doing that. I don't care what it costs me.

• 2:14:17Speaker 01

  Amen.

• 2:14:18Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 2:14:18Speaker 01

  Amen.

• 2:14:19Andy Frisella?

  So that, when you ask like, what I see, that's what I see. I think, I think he knows the 250th anniversary of America is coming up. I think his goal is to have his mission accomplished by then, quote unquote.

• 2:14:38Andy Frisella?

  And I think we're on a limited timeframe, and I think if we don't see some shit happen in the next few months, I think we're gonna know what needs to be done and we're gonna have to fucking do it. That's what I think.

• 2:14:48Speaker 01

  Yeah. That was legendary, right?

• 2:14:51Andy Frisella?

  Yeah. I mean, that's, that's how I see it. And I get,

• 2:14:54Speaker 01

  No, I'm serious, man.

• 2:14:55Andy Frisella?

  I get heat on it all the time, cause, cause people are like, oh, you're not giving him a chance, or you're too pro this. No, I'm not anything, bro. I'm a fucking dude who runs a company, who wants Americans to win, who wants Americans to be great, who wants to not get fucking taxed into oblivion, who wants our citizens to not get taxed in oblivion and be profitable and have what we were promised, which is the land of opportunity, and that all men are created equal and they should all have equal opportunity. Like, I fucking believe that shit to my core.

• 2:15:25Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:15:25Andy Frisella?

  You know what I'm saying? Like, So I don't have a political affiliation. Did I support Trump? Yeah, absolutely. I support, I voted for Trump three times. Would I vote for Trump, how Trump's being right now? Fuck no. I wouldn't. But I also know, because I've read every single book that there is to read about Donald Trump. I was studying him as a businessman before he was ever a politician. If you go read his book, there's a book called Think Big and Kick Ass. It's one of the best business books ever fucking written. There is an entire chapter written about revenge.

• 2:15:59Andy Frisella?

  He is not a look the other way, motherfucker. He's not that guy. This is a guy who wrote a whole book. I don't know a single other author. I've read thousands of books about business and winning and all this shit. You know what they all say? Don't worry about revenge. The best revenge is success. That's what they all say. You know what Trump says? Fuck that. Kill him. That's what he says. So I think there's a lot of things happening here at the same time. And Royce, to your point, I think he's trying to thread the needle to get to a point to where he can do the thing that he promised that he would do. And if he doesn't do it, and I'm gonna say this until I'm blue in the face, we have to do it. We have to do it.

• 2:16:41Andy Frisella?

  And you have to start getting ready now. You have to start preparing now. You gotta prepare your mind, you gotta prepare your body, you gotta prepare your fucking soul, and you gotta be ready to fight for what the fuck you stand for, whatever the fuck that means.

• 2:16:56Andy Frisella?

  So, maybe I'm wrong.

• 2:16:57Speaker 01

  No, I, I, look, you know, there, there's a couple scenarios in my opinion that play out here.

• 2:17:06Speaker 01

  The first one is that President Trump is, is aware of more than, than what we see.

• 2:17:10Andy Frisella?

  Absolutely.

• 2:17:11Speaker 01

  And even furthermore, it, it's totally possible that he and other people who are in his cohort, uh, have been informing on Epstein and that there's been an internal.

• 2:17:25Speaker 01

  Battle happen, cuz this whole Epstein thing, I mean, it glows like, like a moon rock. I mean, there, there's so, there are so many competing intelligence agencies in here. And you got MBS, and you got maybe BB, and you got, I mean, definitely BB in Israel. But you got China, I mean, he was just connected to so much. You gotta think at some point, he became a proxy for competing intelligence agencies.

• 2:17:49Andy Frisella?

  Correct.

• 2:17:49Speaker 01

  And so if that's the case, then it's completely possible that somebody within ours, or maybe in others around the world, uh, were fighting a battle and laying traps, or trying to trap them, or trying to-

• 2:18:00Andy Frisella?

  A thousand, I, I don't think that's even possible. I think that's a hundred percent accurate.

• 2:18:04Speaker 01

  So, if that's the case, then it's possible that, like you said, President Trump's aware of and read into more things than most people are.

• 2:18:12Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 2:18:12Speaker 01

  And, and for whatever reasons, they say national security, but really it's, you know, we can't let the people of Saudi Arabia, uh, run a coup on MBS in the middle of a trade war with China.

• 2:18:24Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 2:18:24Speaker 01

  And let the, what's left of the petrodollar alliance fall, cuz the entire economy will come to a halt. And I'm, I'm not saying to-

• 2:18:31Andy Frisella?

  No, no, no.

• 2:18:32Speaker 01

  I'm saying how they think.

• 2:18:33Andy Frisella?

  I think you're saying, I think you're saying exactly-

• 2:18:34Speaker 01

  I'm saying how they think.

• 2:18:35Andy Frisella?

  That plays into what I'm saying too.

• 2:18:37Speaker 01

  For sure.

• 2:18:37Andy Frisella?

  Because when you look at the moves that he's made with Venezuela, and you look at the moves that he's made with Greenland, and you look at these moves, okay?

• 2:18:44Speaker 01

  Breaking from all those alliances.

• 2:18:45Andy Frisella?

  Here's what you gotta remember.

• 2:18:46Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:18:46Andy Frisella?

  He understands that when he does what the fuck we're talking about doing, that there's a chance that all the other countries might wanna fucking come here-

• 2:18:53Speaker 01

  That's right.

• 2:18:54Andy Frisella?

  For war, okay? Because their systems will collapse as a result. We're already seeing it in England.

• 2:19:00Speaker 01

  Bullshit, yeah, right. UK's on its way.

• 2:19:02Andy Frisella?

  So, everybody needs to calm the fuck down in terms of he's bought and paid for, and they need to start considering that we, as a functional democratic republic society-

• 2:19:17Andy Frisella?

  Things don't happen unless there's pressure. Pressure forces outcomes. Okay, and if we sit on the internet and we say nothing's gonna fucking happen, you know what's gonna happen?

• 2:19:28Speaker 01

  Nothing.

• 2:19:29Andy Frisella?

  Fucking nothing.

• 2:19:29Speaker 01

  That's right.

• 2:19:30Andy Frisella?

  Because that, I would go so far to say that people who say nothing's gonna happen.

• 2:19:34Speaker 01

  They don't want anything to happen.

• 2:19:35Andy Frisella?

  They are either stupid.

• 2:19:36Speaker 01

  Or in on it.

• 2:19:37Andy Frisella?

  Or they are in on it.

• 2:19:38Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 2:19:39Andy Frisella?

  Okay, because they are trying to, I think a lot of the people who say, oh, nothing's gonna happen are bots. That they're trying to quell the, the, the fu- the fucking outcry.

• 2:19:50Speaker 02

  You wouldn't know if they're bots or not because they're fucking tweeting from anonymous.

• 2:19:53Andy Frisella?

  That's a whole nother thing.

• 2:19:54Speaker 01

  The last, I was gonna say that I think there's gonna be a convergence here of multiple, multiple crises at the same time. Where if the midterms aren't held, as sure as the turning of the earth. President Trump will be impeached and they will use this as the means to impeach him and.

• 2:20:16Andy Frisella?

  That's why I think it's gonna happen.

• 2:20:17Speaker 01

  Let me say this about Democrats and it is just, again. President Trump has to go max. Part of going max is the accountability on the Epstein deal. And he's gotta, it, listen, if, if Epstein wasn't, uh, was a part of facilitating him having sex with some women who were 18 and over, just come out and say that.

• 2:20:39Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 2:20:39Speaker 01

  Just come to the White House and you know what, this is what me and Epstein, this is our relationship. My modeling agency, there was some 18-year-old, 19-year-old girls, I was a little bit too old, it's a little inappropriate, but hey, I did what I did. I wasn't a part of any child torture or anything. That probably needs to happen sooner than later, if that's the case.

• 2:20:55Andy Frisella?

  I don't think he did that, yeah.

• 2:20:56Speaker 01

  I don't, I don't think he did either, but it needs to happen nonetheless.

• 2:20:59Andy Frisella?

  He was a motherfucker that kicked him out, bro, and started the whole thing.

• 2:21:01Speaker 01

  And I know any, any help the feds, but what I'm saying is, it needs to be said.

• 2:21:06Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 2:21:06Speaker 01

  For the optics, if you care about the optics.

• 2:21:08Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 2:21:09Speaker 01

  If you're a bad mo- like us, you don't care about the optics, then don't care about the optics.

• 2:21:13Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 2:21:14Speaker 01

  I said this about the ICE deal and I wanna draw this connection.

• 2:21:19Speaker 01

  Because with the immigration issue, and this is connected because this is all happening at once now. You got immigration, you got Epstein, you got the elections that again, to me, the Epstein thing becomes a MacGuffin for the elections not being secure. When all said and done, you know, MacGuffin is like the Maltese Falcon, right? It's meant to drive the story forward, but it's not really what the plot is about. In Maltese Falcon, there is no Falcon, right? Okay. The elections aren't secure. Yeah. I mean, we're burning daylight and they're not, it doesn't look like they're going to end up being secure unless we nationalize it, which is going to be considered an act of unconstitutional tyranny. And that plays into the argument about immigration tyranny.

• 2:22:03Speaker 01

  It's one after, you see the Democrats already doing it. As soon as Bannon said, put those ICE agents at the polls, Rachel Maddow lost her mind and said, oh, oh my goodness, they're going to try and steal this election by intimidating people not to vote. No, no, no. She's projecting. I understand. Yeah. I was getting there. I was getting there. Wait a second. This is what I need people to understand and realize, especially on the right. Yes, we want to know everything that there is to know about these Epstein files. There cannot be a society, especially an American society, that allows us to go unchecked. It just can't happen. It's unacceptable. As a matter of national honor and sacred honor, we can't have a functioning republic

• 2:22:47Speaker 01

  or a nation that has any, any favor if we allow this to go unchecked. However, I don't give any Democrats a single iota of credibility in their fake outrage up and down the line from illegal immigration to trans, to trans discrimination, to Epstein, to Epstein accountability.

• 2:23:12Speaker 01

  Don't tell me, I don't want to hear from the group of people who wanted to mutilate our children and have tried to normalize minor attracted people that now Epstein's gonna be the hill they die on. Everything that the communists and the Marxists scrutinize is a projection and a deflection. And we have to understand that we're fighting an internal civil war battle, asymmetrical with real boots on the ground, that's Antifa, but also ideological and informational where they're gonna try and hit us over, you know, they're gonna hit us both wa- both ways, they're gonna split the atom.

• 2:23:46Andy Frisella?

  A thousand percent.

• 2:23:46Speaker 01

  They're gonna say, like they're doing now, well, well, tell me how you feel about your president being a pedophile. You all are pedophiles.

• 2:23:52Andy Frisella?

  Yeah, you're right.

• 2:23:53Speaker 01

  So I'm not, you know, you can play that game, but I'm gonna call the balls and strikes on it. If you're a communist or leftist or you believed have advocated for for the last 10 years that we should be pushing transgender sexual content in the public school libraries of grade school children, I don't want to hear your opinion on Epstein. Let me talk to some trad Catholics, okay, who want to hold the sexual morality of our society intact. I'll listen to their opinion on Epstein and there are some further, right?

• 2:24:23Andy Frisella?

  We don't go too high there.

• 2:24:24Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's right. But you know what I mean?

• 2:24:25Andy Frisella?

  On the ground, yeah.

• 2:24:26Speaker 01

  But you know what I'm saying, I'm not gonna listen to these people who proliferated sexual perversion about this situation. Look to McGuffin for them, for them, not for you.

• 2:24:36Andy Frisella?

  A hundred percent, bro. We had the man who wrote, you seen Agenda and Agenda 2?

• 2:24:42Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 2:24:42Andy Frisella?

  Okay.

• 2:24:43Speaker 01

  The dude.

• 2:24:43Andy Frisella?

  Curtis Bowers. Curtis Bowers who wrote those. He is the world's leading expert on communism at this time. He's been on the show two or three times. The communists work very simply.

• 2:24:58Andy Frisella?

  Three steps forward, one step back. They push, push, push, when they get enough push back, they go back. Then they wait for everybody to calm down, then they push, push, push. When we watch what's happened over the last decade, that's exactly what they've done, which is why people don't trust Trump right now because they think that he's part of that.

• 2:25:16Speaker 01

  One step back.

• 2:25:17Andy Frisella?

  Yes, we're just trying to satisfy you guys by putting him in there, right? Which at this point in time.

• 2:25:23Speaker 01

  Could be.

• 2:25:23Andy Frisella?

  Yes.

• 2:25:24Speaker 01

  Catherine Austin Fitz thinks so.

• 2:25:26Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 2:25:26Speaker 01

  Catherine Austin Fitz said that Trump was selected to, to, to. To usher in the digital, uh, the digital ID because the liberals weren't doing it quick enough.

• 2:25:35Andy Frisella?

  Bro, and a lot of the fucking shit that's happening.

• 2:25:37Speaker 01

  And the SAVE Act does have a digital ID in it. They need to take that out before they pass it.

• 2:25:41Andy Frisella?

  And that's the people who are strongly anti-Trump. That's why. That's why they believe that he's bought into it because they're pushing the Palantir surveillance state. All this shit, which by the way, I agree with them on, you know, so like. But I also feel like we're already in there. We have been for a long time. That's what Snowden was trying to tell everybody. So.

• 2:26:04Speaker 01

  I, I don't know. I, I, I actually do think, you look, I think we're in this type of position as a country. Again, President Trump, I'm thirty-four years old. And one day me and you may have to step in and run for, run, run for, for, run for president, something like that. But what I'm saying is until that time comes, President Trump is the best hope that we have politically. Now, if, now if we want to go to a, a.

• 2:26:29Andy Frisella?

  That's why the pressure has to go on him.

• 2:26:31Speaker 01

  Yes, no doubt. Oh, keep it on one thousand percent. But if we want to go to the mattresses as self-governing sovereign citizens and say, you know, we're going to do more of a Thomas Jefferson, a Jeffersonian approach to, to restructure this thing. A, I, I don't know that I trust all these people. I trust you. I trust some people. But what I'm saying is, some of these people, you know, it, it's like, you can have a, an evolution or revolution. And right now, this country needs to evolve. It's like with AI, the whole, the whole apprehension of AI should be this. We don't see a single piece of evidence that a broad majority of American citizens or citizens all over the world

• 2:27:14Speaker 01

  have their mind together, are wrapped tight. So why would we let those people map their minds onto the robots? It's just, it's, it's, it's, you're, you're asking for big trouble.

• 2:27:24Andy Frisella?

  I believe that AI came out intentionally, intentionally for this Epstein situation.

• 2:27:30Speaker 01

  Oh, I, I was just gonna tell, I was just gonna say that.

• 2:27:35Andy Frisella?

  All these crimes are gonna come out.

• 2:27:37Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 2:27:37Andy Frisella?

  And now we're gonna be like, well, is that fucking AI? Is that real?

• 2:27:40Speaker 01

  Yes. I can't even tell. I put a couple clips out and I had people in the comments on Facebook from my Facebook saying, dude, this is AI. I'm in the comments going, I'm real motherfucker. What are you talking about? But, but it's not, but it's only in the last six months that AI has gotten that good, by the way. That is the real threat on the horizon, AI.

• 2:27:58Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 2:27:58Speaker 01

  And the ushering in of digital ID is the real threat and danger. Epstein and this, again, back to the Democrats, and I don't make a Democrat Republican, because I could just as easy run independent.

• 2:28:06Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 2:28:07Speaker 01

  Or there could be a third party. The problem is that the system doesn't allow for those things to have any traction, but

• 2:28:15Speaker 01

  Epstein does seem to be the connective tissue of a globalist political philosophy and, and structure.

• 2:28:24Andy Frisella?

  And that was just more.

• 2:28:25Speaker 01

  So the leftists, the Rachel Maddows and the MSNBCs, they can try and play however they want to, but the bottom line is this sort of internationalism that, that everybody subscribed to since World War II leads to a Jeffrey Epstein being able to have dual citizenship and he's going to this country and that country. He's meeting with this leader and that leader and it's about finance and stocks and guys, we need to bring it on home. Regardless of what ends up happening with this Jeffrey Epstein deal. America first must be. There, there are two things that people must go into the midterms with as a, you know, determining factors of who they support.

• 2:29:08Speaker 01

  Are they America first? Can they be bought and paid for?

• 2:29:11Andy Frisella?

  That's it.

• 2:29:11Speaker 01

  Simple.

• 2:29:12Andy Frisella?

  That is it. That is it. Not for fucking sale. That's it, bro. That's it. If I ever ran for shit, that'd be my fucking slogan. Not for fucking sale. You might not like me. You might not like everything I say. You might not like everything I do, but you can know that I'm doing it with the intent of making the country better, not for fucking Israel or fucking whoever's paying me. Like, I'm not doing it.

• 2:29:33Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:29:33Andy Frisella?

  And if we could edge, dude, it's such a great point you're making. This can go a couple different ways still. The peaceful way, there's three options really. Okay? Well, there's four. One, we put pressure on Trump and he does it. Okay? Two, we, voters become intelligent enough to stop voting for people who are bought and paid for, which that's gonna take some re-education.

• 2:29:58Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 2:29:58Andy Frisella?

  All right? Three, we could fucking try to physically take over, which is going to be challenging. Uh, because of what we said about the police and military.

• 2:30:09Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 2:30:10Andy Frisella?

  So those people would have to wake up and say, hey, I stand with the people, not stand with the government. Or four, we fucking lose.

• 2:30:20Andy Frisella?

  Those are the four options. I don't think there's another option. So. You know, it's kind of an order of like in business, how I would look at this, okay, what's the best case scenario? The best case scenario is to put the pressure on Trump and hope that he fucking does it. The next best case scenario is to make sure that people do exactly what you just said, where they vote for America first and people that are not bought and paid for. That doesn't work, that's because, because each one of these doubt has considerations and assumptions that we don't know to be true. So. Cause if we say, okay, well, let's re-educate the voters, then we have to then put our faith in the election system, which doesn't seem secure.

• 2:30:57Speaker 01

  Right.

• 2:30:57Andy Frisella?

  Right?

• 2:30:58Speaker 01

  At each trough, you have more unintended consequences.

• 2:31:00Andy Frisella?

  Correct, correct. And that, you know, it's, it's a, it's a flow chart of best, better, not so good. You know what I'm saying? Really bad, really bad. But yeah, but we, we have to prepare in business for worst case scenario. So if, if this were, let's just say this were, uh, America, my little business here. I would tell the guys, I would say, your job right now is to put pressure on the fucking, on this person, because they have the ability to correct it or not vocally. However, you need to, okay, not, not violently vocally.

• 2:31:40Andy Frisella?

  And then you need to go out and you need to get in shape and you do start learning how to do shit.

• 2:31:44Speaker 01

  Yeah, prepare for the worst.

• 2:31:45Andy Frisella?

  That's right.

• 2:31:45Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:31:46Andy Frisella?

  And that's, that's the message that we need to be sending to American men. That's what I think.

• 2:31:51Speaker 01

  Amen.

• 2:31:51Andy Frisella?

  That's real, man.

• 2:31:52Speaker 02

  Guys, jump into this comment. Jump, jump into this conversation, let us know down in the comments.

• 2:31:58Andy Frisella?

  Yeah, well.

• 2:31:58Speaker 02

  What you guys think, man?

• 2:32:00Andy Frisella?

  Look.

• 2:32:00Speaker 02

  Some heavy shit.

• 2:32:01Andy Frisella?

  Yeah, it's, it's, uh, you know what I think? I think it's fucking awesome.

• 2:32:07Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:32:07Andy Frisella?

  What a time to be alive. That's what I'm saying.

• 2:32:09Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 2:32:09Andy Frisella?

  I think it's fucking awesome. I, I think it sucks. I think there's a lot. I think I'd rather be doing other shit.

• 2:32:15Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:32:16Andy Frisella?

  But then when I'm at home at night and I'm a little demoralized and I feel the pressure because dude, I, I, I mean, Royce, you do too. When you put yourself out the way that you have, or the way that I have, or the way that he has, there's a lot of pressure, bro.

• 2:32:29Speaker 01

  I'm worried about exploding pagers, but I'll say that next time.

• 2:32:32Andy Frisella?

  I think these got, all of our crew is in on that. They understand.

• 2:32:36Speaker 01

  I'll say that for the next time I come back.

• 2:32:38Andy Frisella?

  Yeah. And we could fucking.

• 2:32:39Speaker 01

  I swear, no, I was up last night. I was laying in my bed, right? And my phone was like, just, you know, I'm in a hotel, right?

• 2:32:47Andy Frisella?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 2:32:48Speaker 01

  And the phone was like, close to me on the bed and, and I was watching, uh, Dan Wong talk about China.

• 2:32:55Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 2:32:55Speaker 01

  And, you know, he, he made an excellent point. He said, China is, uh, is ruled by engineers. America is ruled by lawyers.

• 2:33:01Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 2:33:02Speaker 01

  By lawyers. Ruled by engineer versus ruled by lawyers.

• 2:33:04Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 2:33:04Speaker 01

  And that's part of our problem. We have an over litigious society and, and, uh, and, uh, corrupt legal system.

• 2:33:12Andy Frisella?

  Correct.

• 2:33:12Speaker 01

  Uh, which is how you get an Epstein first. But anyway, so I'm looking at my phone and I'm just thinking, is this motherfucker gonna explode on me one day? And just blow my whole face and my abdomen out of my, you know, out of my body. I don't know. I'm just.

• 2:33:24Andy Frisella?

  It might. It might.

• 2:33:26Speaker 01

  That's a real thing.

• 2:33:27Andy Frisella?

  But dude, that's what I'm saying. Look, bro, people don't realize this. Okay. When I started talking about this, just like when I started my business, I accepted what it was going to take to get the result. Okay. When I, when I first started talking about this shit, I knew that people were gonna hate me. I knew that I was gonna have to deal with shit. I knew all of these things. I accepted it upfront. And I think American men need to do some accepting of reality on their own and realize that for us to get this fucker back on track.

• 2:34:00Andy Frisella?

  It's going to take some participation.

• 2:34:03Speaker 01

  Some inconvenience.

• 2:34:04Andy Frisella?

  It's gonna take some inconvenience and it's never gonna be easier than it is right now. And the thing that we can do now is to let Donald Trump know, motherfucker, we elected you three fucking times.

• 2:34:18Speaker 01

  It's time.

• 2:34:19Andy Frisella?

  All of us have taken so much shit for you, bro.

• 2:34:25Andy Frisella?

  Do what you said you were gonna do. And that should be the message. And I do think that knowing Trump's genius about branding.

• 2:34:38Andy Frisella?

  And I think he wants to have this done by July 4th. I think he wants to celebrate the new independence of the United States of America. And I think he wants to be the hero. And that's what I think.

• 2:34:50Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:34:51Andy Frisella?

  So, we're gonna know soon.

• 2:34:57Andy Frisella?

  We need to participate. And we need to prepare. That's what I think.

• 2:35:02Speaker 01

  I love it, man.

• 2:35:02Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 2:35:03Speaker 01

  I love it.

• 2:35:08Speaker 01

  Make Minnesota great again. You know what's funny is, I'll put some up on my, on my site, Royce White dot U S my senate site. I'll put some up there, but I got it from a, a small BPOU in Minnesota, up, up in northern Minnesota. And I was at a governor's forum and they just handed me one. They were like, man, will you wear this hat? And I was, I love that hat.

• 2:35:25Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 2:35:25Speaker 01

  And I've been, I've been wearing it ever since. Make Minnesota great again. I, you know, my, my whole thing is this, and we have to get ready for this as well.

• 2:35:32Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 2:35:32Speaker 01

  Cause I do think, I do think this.

• 2:35:36Andy Frisella?

  Now, keep in mind, with everything I said, I'm also a bit of an extremist.

• 2:35:40Speaker 01

  Well, they, I'm, yeah, we're, we're out there. We're way over there.

• 2:35:43Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 2:35:44Speaker 01

  We're way over there in what they call the unelectable zone, which is probably why we should run for office, right? All the unelectable people should, should step up at front center, but I do think that, America has a divine calling as a nation and in scripture nations do have divine calling. Now you can lose that favor as well, but I do think that what's written in our founding documents has the DNA of of a Christian evolution and at least to be codified in government, right? If you look at Israel in the time that Jesus walked and and what was codified then in the Roman Empire and then, you know, there was a lot of corruption in the Roman Empire, then you get the Anglican church in Great Britain, which was a nightmare

• 2:36:28Speaker 01

  by the end and we had to revolt and declare our independence from them. And then you get America. I do think that there's something in American DNA that longs for the truth and longs for freedom.

• 2:36:38Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 2:36:39Speaker 01

  No matter what.

• 2:36:39Andy Frisella?

  Revolutions in our blood.

• 2:36:40Speaker 01

  Yes. No matter what tyranny befalls us, we will eventually rise up. The question is how much suffering are we going to have to go through before we rise?

• 2:36:49Andy Frisella?

  Totally agree.

• 2:36:50Speaker 01

  Okay. So with that, with that being said, I do feel like

• 2:36:57Speaker 01

  this next political season, you know, of 2026

• 2:37:04Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 2:37:05Speaker 01

  will be a judgment on us as a country. It's going to be a judgment on us in that, you know, and I tell my, if I can leave people with anything,

• 2:37:18Speaker 01

  even if the elections are not secure and rigged, you still have to get out there.

• 2:37:23Andy Frisella?

  Correct.

• 2:37:23Speaker 01

  You have to force them to cheat. You have to force them to feel the spirit and the pressure of the will of the people. And it does become harder to cheat. The more people show up. That's a fact. But

• 2:37:35Speaker 01

  in 2024, with the Satanists and communists full, full hand around our throat as a nation, 32 million Christians didn't vote. In Minnesota alone, it's estimated a million, conservatively, a million conservatives and Christians of voter age did not vote in the 2024 presidential election.

• 2:38:01Speaker 01

  This is going to be a judgment on Christians. And I'm not saying if you don't believe in Christ, or you're not a Christian, you don't believe in God, or you're, you know, you're atheist libertarian, that you're not welcome to the party. All I'm saying is that I think the dividing line has gotten pretty clear. When a, when an international sex ring is passing emails about torturing kids. So i- if we can't, if we can't then draw that, look, even if I'm an atheist. Bro, you have. If I don't like child sex torture, I'm probably gonna have to fall in with the, with the Christians. Unless there's some Christians who are in on it, and then we're gonna dump them back in with the Satanists. So it's a restructuring, but people have to realize. If we don't, if, if after Charlie Kirk's brutally assassinated,

• 2:38:44Speaker 01

  and this entire country of Christians gets together, locks hands and sings kumbaya, and then you don't come out to participate in the most consequential political season in our 250-year history, then, then the problem isn't with Muslims. It's not with communists. It's not with liberals. It's not even with pedophiles. The problem is with Christians. Apathetic, lazy. Apathetic, lazy, 501(c)(3) Christians. I'll give you an example. And I, I, I, I hesitate to say this, but I do think that the post-enlightenment Christianity is such a watered-down version of Christianity.

• 2:39:26Speaker 01

  We are susceptible right now culturally as a Christian community, because our first instinct is to turn the other cheek and let God sort everything out in the afterlife. It's not even what the Bible calls for. That's not what it calls for, but that's what they teach. We have to throw that out right now. Christian, Christian Inquisition. And I don't mean that we need to go persecute people. I mean, we need to be ready, Christians need to be ready for war this time. We can't just sit in our, Charlie, that was great. Everybody sang and cried, and when I go to one of these Protestant, no offense, Mr. Lutheran man. But when I go to some of these Protestant, you know, services, everybody's, you know, holding their hands up and they're crying and they're swaying, and it's just real emotional and, and real poetic, but, uh, these Muslims?

• 2:40:08Speaker 01

  They're ready to throw down. These Marxists, these Antifas, they're ready to throw down.

• 2:40:12Andy Frisella?

  Dude, it's real simple.

• 2:40:13Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:40:14Andy Frisella?

  Okay, you have the extreme Muslims that talk openly about exterminating Christians.

• 2:40:19Speaker 01

  That's right.

• 2:40:19Andy Frisella?

  Okay, that's not all Muslims, it's the extremes. You also have the extreme Jews saying the same shit. Okay, people need to realize, and that's not all Jews, okay? People need to realize, I don't see Christian, I don't, I've never heard the most extreme Christian, I've never heard them say, "We need to fucking kill all the Muslims," or "We need to kill all the Jew," that's not, but those are said by these other groups in the extreme circles. That should be a red flag for people.

• 2:40:46Speaker 01

  Amen.

• 2:40:47Andy Frisella?

  Okay? This is real shit. Most people don't think, and I'm gonna hit your point on the voter thing too in a second, because I have said I'm not gonna vote, but I said it out of anger, because I was pissed.

• 2:41:01Andy Frisella?

  People don't think that Satanism is a real thing.

• 2:41:03Speaker 01

  I know.

• 2:41:04Andy Frisella?

  They think it's fucking, they think it's an adjective for evil. They think it's a synonym for evil. It's, oh, that's just a, that's a bad person, so they're Satanists. No, there are people that literally believe in human sacrifice, in power by all means, in deception, and these people have, over the last 600 years, found themselves embedded in places of power that control society. And that is a real thing that you can trace all the way back 12,000 years ago, to the beginning of quote-unquote "humanity" in Samaria, okay?

• 2:41:46Andy Frisella?

  This is real. This is not bullshit. And people think it's fucking fake, and that's a big problem. And what do they say that the devil's greatest fucking feat was? To convince people that he wasn't real.

• 2:41:57Speaker 01

  And they're right up in your face with, is my point. Look at Epstein with the, with the bank account named after Baal, the, the, the child sacrificing demon, and see, this is what I meant about the leftists, they're not.

• 2:42:06Andy Frisella?

  Well, that got debunked, but, but there's plenty of other him.

• 2:42:09Speaker 01

  But, yeah, the, the whole, the whole symbology, the whole, the whole, the whole thing with Epstein is a satanic.

• 2:42:17Andy Frisella?

  Correct.

• 2:42:18Speaker 01

  Uh, ideology.

• 2:42:19Andy Frisella?

  Correct.

• 2:42:19Speaker 01

  And the left has embraced it, so I'm not, I'm not taking their Epstein, you know, bull. I'm just not, I'm not buying it. We'll be the ones to prosecute Epstein, because we believe in that moral standard.

• 2:42:29Andy Frisella?

  That's right.

• 2:42:29Speaker 01

  Right? And, and, but, you know, the- The, the, the problem with Christians, again, I'll, I'll say this again. The problem with Christians right now is we believe that

• 2:42:43Speaker 01

  we should leave all of the, you know, rough stuff to God and, and, and it's just-

• 2:42:51Andy Frisella?

  He doesn't even tell you to do that.

• 2:42:53Speaker 01

  You, you know, it's just not, it's not gonna work. It's, it's just, it's not gonna work that way. We have to be ready. You know what would make me feel good? If out of response to Charlie Kirk being assassinated, and out of response to these Epstein files, and out of response to the clear divide we see between people who believe in good and evil, I wanna see Christians showing up and open carrying on Sunday.

• 2:43:13Andy Frisella?

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:43:14Speaker 01

  I wanna see every Christian march into their place of worship carrying a loaded handgun on their hip, open carry, not concealing carry.

• 2:43:24Andy Frisella?

  Yeah, it says a signal. You're not gonna fuck with us.

• 2:43:26Speaker 01

  Don't fuck with us.

• 2:43:27Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 2:43:28Speaker 01

  Don't, we, we're ready to, we're not gonna play this game too much longer.

• 2:43:31Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 2:43:31Speaker 01

  And if we're not willing to do that-

• 2:43:33Andy Frisella?

  Then we're gonna get conquered. It's fucking natural order, dude.

• 2:43:36Speaker 01

  It goes back to Darwin, right? On the playground, if you, if you let people push you around too much, you'll be a punching bag-

• 2:43:41Andy Frisella?

  Forever.

• 2:43:41Speaker 01

  Exactly.

• 2:43:42Andy Frisella?

  Yeah, and dude, to go to your vote, voting point, and then we can wrap up, but the vote, like, for example, people will say, "Well, I'm not gonna fuck a vote 'cause it's all bullshit." Well, what about those votes that they just went and confiscated in Georgia? Okay, now, ha, and I said, remember when I said this during the election? I said, "You have to fucking vote because if you don't vote-

• 2:44:03Speaker 01

  We'll have no way to know.

• 2:44:04Andy Frisella?

  And they, and they cheat, they're not gonna be able to tell that, that it was fake anyway.

• 2:44:08Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:44:08Andy Frisella?

  So the only evidence of a fake election is the amount of votes that aren't counted.

• 2:44:13Speaker 01

  Overwhelming.

• 2:44:14Andy Frisella?

  Okay?

• 2:44:15Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:44:15Andy Frisella?

  So you, you, two things can be true at the same time. You can believe that we deserve a different system. You can believe that

• 2:44:28Andy Frisella?

  by voting, we're consenting to be governed, and we can believe all of this shit. Because a lot of libertarians will say, you know, "I'm not voting because it's giving my consent to be ruled." Listen, motherfucker, we're living in reality here.

• 2:44:39Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:44:39Andy Frisella?

  Okay, this is reality. We could talk about the way things should be, but then there's the way things are, and-

• 2:44:49Andy Frisella?

  If the difference between way things should be and the way things are mean that you're going to stand by the way things should be and you're going to get slaughtered for it, you're a fucking idiot. Okay, that's stupid. We have to vote and we have to vote and then if we need to fix all of the shit, we can. But the votes have to exist in order to know if there's fraud or not.

• 2:45:16Speaker 01

  Right.

• 2:45:16Andy Frisella?

  Right? Like.

• 2:45:17Speaker 01

  It's like take a basketball game, for example. If you come into a basketball game in somebody else's hometown or somebody else's home gym and you say, hey, we're gonna be cheated from the start, so we might as well not play.

• 2:45:27Andy Frisella?

  That's it. Then they win.

• 2:45:29Speaker 01

  Yeah, they win by default. You forfeit. No, we play the game and if they cheat, we review it, we go back, we play again, we deal with the outcome of being cheated. Hey, then it might, you know what, after 2020, people should have been in the streets. Because obviously there was election fraud, but everybody had something better to do. And this time, that's ratcheting up. People are getting sick of the election fraud. But, but you know, you have to vote or else you can't really complain if you get cheated. Because you didn't get cheated.

• 2:45:55Andy Frisella?

  Yeah, that's right. That's right.

• 2:45:57Speaker 01

  If you didn't play, you didn't.

• 2:45:58Andy Frisella?

  But then you got Rachel Maddow saying, oh, they're trying to fix the election. No, bitch, you've been doing that for fucking 25 years.

• 2:46:03Speaker 01

  That's right.

• 2:46:04Andy Frisella?

  Okay, we're not trying to fix shit. We're trying to get an honest election out of what we're promised, what we work our whole lives to support with our tax dollars. Like, what the fuck, bitch? Like, we're trying to fucking be, like, this ain't about fixing, this is about, we don't trust the system. And to give one more thing, the, the plan that I laid out that I think Trump is running right now, that a lot of people are gonna say, oh, Andy thinks he's running 70 chess. It's working. And let me tell you why it's working. Because I got a call yesterday from my cousin, who is as far left of a person that I personally know. She is the furthest left person that I know personally.

• 2:46:51Andy Frisella?

  And she was like, holy shit. I had no idea this was real. I thought it was bullshit. Can you send me more information? Like, and it was a great conversation. Okay?

• 2:47:02Speaker 01

  Good. That's a good sign.

• 2:47:04Andy Frisella?

  Yeah, bro, because these people are starting to realize that the, the, the bill of goods that they've been sold has been bullshit too. So, anyway.

• 2:47:12Speaker 01

  Good.

• 2:47:13Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 2:47:13Speaker 01

  I love that.

• 2:47:14Andy Frisella?

  Bro, thank you so much for coming down, dude.

• 2:47:16Speaker 01

  Thanks for having me, man.

• 2:47:16Andy Frisella?

  This is awesome, man.

• 2:47:17Speaker 01

  Thank you.

• 2:47:18Andy Frisella?

  I wish we would have done it sooner.

• 2:47:19Speaker 01

  We'll do it again.

• 2:47:20Andy Frisella?

  Yeah, we will.

• 2:47:20Speaker 01

  On the street, man.

• 2:47:21Andy Frisella?

  Absolutely.

• 2:47:21Speaker 01

  Anytime you want.

• 2:47:22Andy Frisella?

  Likewise, dude. You're welcome to come on anytime, bro. Like, anytime you want to come on, you got something to say?

• 2:47:27Speaker 01

  Thank you.

• 2:47:28Andy Frisella?

  Come on down.

• 2:47:28Speaker 02

  What's the best way for people to support you right now, dude?

• 2:47:31Speaker 01

  Um, yeah, you can go to royswite.us. It's my Senate campaign website. Uh, you know, you can sign up, email, do phone calls for us. Uh, they got good, we got good merchandise. Jesus is King t-shirts. Go buy one of those. Um, and other than that, I'm on all social media channels. My podcast, Please Call Me Crazy, you can, you know, you can find on YouTube. I usually run it on X as well. Other than that, man, you know, hold the line. You know, we're not the far right. We're not the fringe right. We're not the extreme right, the alt-right. We're just right. You know, we're, we're just right and just right for a time like, like right now. And we have to hold the line against the leftists and the communists and the Satanists and all these people, but we also have to hold the, the line within the wire.

• 2:48:15Speaker 01

  And as sure as the sun will rise, President Bush and the Bush hunta and that entire neo-conservative wing of the party is licking their chops that President Trump is coming on hard times with approval rating. And they are coming back, they are coming back for the Republican Party in 26 and in 28. And if we don't, if we don't hold the line, uh, all of us on the right, the right of center, uh, will have no shot in, in running this party or getting any policy pa- passed whatsoever, uh, in the future. So that, that's the fight I'm in in Minnesota. And, you know, I just, again, Michelle Tafoya is like Tim Scott, the NRSC, Mitch McConnell's band of running dogs. They went out and recruited Michelle Tafoya, household name in Minnesota, legendary sideline reporter.

• 2:48:59Speaker 01

  But at the end of the day, she's ankle deep on the issues. And the reason what they went and got her was a slap in the face. It was to oppose me.

• 2:49:07Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 2:49:07Speaker 01

  But it's a slap in the face to the entire MAGA and America First movement to say, we have the purse strings of the Republican Party, Tim Scott. He personally recruited her and has already endorsed her, even though there's not even a primary or endorsement in the state. And it's just to say to conservatives, President Trump may have gotten elected and we may have had to hang our nose like Tim Scott had to hang his nose. Remember, he tried to run too.

• 2:49:29Andy Frisella?

  Yeah.

• 2:49:30Speaker 01

  We may have had to hang our nose, but we still control so much of the machinery. Don't think that it's over. And everybody has to understand that's why you have to be involved in the process is to hold the right. We have to hold the right if we have any chance of saving this country.

• 2:49:43Andy Frisella?

  I, I don't even see it as right. I see it as, that's the party right now that represents.

• 2:49:48Speaker 01

  The people.

• 2:49:49Andy Frisella?

  Yes.

• 2:49:52Speaker 01

  The fundamentals of American citizenship. Right.

• 2:49:54Andy Frisella?

  More so in line.

• 2:49:55Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 2:49:55Andy Frisella?

  And, and I think it's very important also for you guys listening, to realize that Royce is a real dude. Okay. He's just like you guys. He doesn't have a big bankroll, bank backing him up. This is a dude that.

• 2:50:09Speaker 01

  He got AIPAC.

• 2:50:10Andy Frisella?

  This is a dude that fucking gives a shit, who is willing to put himself out there. And when I say, you guys need to do it, Royce is doing it. Okay. So, think about that. You might just be, you, you, in your mind, you think, oh man, I got some good ideas. I got some good thoughts. I think this, I think that. But I'm just poor little meat. Motherfucker, that's what they want you to think.

• 2:50:33Speaker 01

  Amen.

• 2:50:34Andy Frisella?

  Don't take yourself out of the game. You have value. You have ideas. You have experience of being a real American. And the only people that should be serving in our government are people who have the experience of being a real American, just like you, which makes you the most qualified to facilitate change. So never discount yourself. You, you, this is the, this is you. Alright, I'm done.

• 2:51:03Speaker 01

  Thank you, bro.

• 2:51:04Andy Frisella?

  I got a fucking headache. No, dude, this is great, dude.

• 2:51:07Speaker 01

  Godspeed, everybody in the audience. God bless America. Appreciate you, man.

• 2:51:10Andy Frisella?

  Yeah, appreciate you too, bro. Thank you for doing what you're doing, man.

• 2:51:13Speaker 01

  Thank you, man.

• 2:51:14Andy Frisella?

  Keep on it, bro. We're gonna fucking win.

• 2:51:15Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 2:51:16Andy Frisella?

  One way or the other. We're gonna win.

• 2:51:17Speaker 01

  Yes, we are.

• 2:51:18Andy Frisella?

  So. Well, guys, Andy, Royce, that's all I got. Yep. Alright, guys, we will see you Wednesday at 7 o'clock. Uh, don't be a hoe.

• 2:51:28Speaker 01

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