2026 Emmys recap

This year’s Emmys were a big night for shows we really love, including Widow’s Bay, The Pitt and Pluribus. Actors Jean Smart and Matthew Rhys picked up wins, and Rhys made some history. And we’ll explain why we love Mariska Hargitay, who proved to be a game yet corny host. Connect with Pop Culture Happy Hour: Letterboxd https://letterboxd.com/nprpopculture/ / Facebook https://www.facebook.com/pchh Our weekly newsletter https://www.npr.org/newsletter/pop-culture Support public media with NPR+ and enjoy perks for over 25 podcasts like this one. This show’s perks include bonus episodes and sponsor-free listening. Learn more at plus.npr.org http://plus.npr.org/. See pcm.adswizz.com https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for sponsorship and to manage your podcast sponsorship preferences. NPR Privacy Policy https://www.npr.org/about-npr/179878450/privacy-policy

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• 0:32Linda Holmes?

  They had her do a very bad opening number, which I kind of think was bad on purpose to a degree. I think it was cheesy, corny, earnest on purpose, like, like an aunt trying to be cool. And I say that as an aunt who is not cool.

• 0:46Speaker 01

  Exactly.

• 0:52Speaker 01

  It was a big night for some TV shows we like a lot around here. The Pit and Pluribus got some love, and Widows Bay really cleaned up, and Matthew Rees made some history. There is plenty to talk about. I'm Glen Weldon. It is 12:08 in the AM, and we are recapping the 2026 Emmy Awards. Joining me tonight is my fellow NPR Pop Culture Happy Hour host, Linda Holmes. Hey, Lynda.

• 1:12Linda Holmes?

  Hello, Glenn.

• 1:13Speaker 01

  Hey, we got a lot of energy. Let's get right to it.

• 1:17Linda Holmes?

  We do. I'm, I'm, my energy is up.

• 1:19Speaker 01

  My energy is up, and then it might fall off towards the end because there's some precedent.

• 1:23Linda Holmes?

  Yes, exactly. Then I'm just going to stretch at the end of the show.

• 1:26Speaker 01

  Then we're all going to sit here and talk incessantly.

• 1:29Linda Holmes?

  Yeah.

• 1:30Speaker 01

  Let's start with a big one that we're all, I think we're both happy with. Widows Bay, one for outstanding comedy series. Do you have thoughts about just this win? Because, I mean, I think folks had this as a two-show race between Hacks and Widows Bay. Hacks was a returning favorite, taking its final bow, but Widows Bay was the moment. I mean, it's the first real word-of-mouth phenomenon we've had in a while. You happy?

• 1:51Linda Holmes?

  I think that's right. Yes, I'm very happy. I think this is a really interesting show. I think it's, it's accurate when people point out that it was a big creative swing that kind of in retrospect now, it's easy to say like, oh, yeah, you know, this is like a mystery comedy. It makes sense that it was successful. But at the time, you can see how it was a large gamble for the people who got involved in it. But it has such a great cast, and it's also like, super weird in a way that I thought was satisfying. So, yeah, I was, I was very happy to see this win outstanding comedy series and then go on to win a bunch of other things, too.

• 2:23Speaker 01

  A bunch of other things, like Matthew Rees won two awards tonight. He did win outstanding lead actor in a comedy series for Widows Bay. He also won outstanding lead actor in a limited or anthology series or movie for The Beast in Me. He is the very first actor to ever win lead performance awards in two different categories in the same year. Thoughts about that?

• 2:43Linda Holmes?

  I mean, I'm a big fan of him. I think he is a super versatile guy. If you saw him in The Beast in Me, you know that he has the ability to go a very, very big as a scary person. In Widows Bay, he kind of goes big as a kind of terrified person. And I do think those go in very different directions, and I admire the versatility. He also, you know, in, I think, 2018, he won lead actor in a drama series for The Americans. So he's kind of made his way through the, the major categories. He's a versatile dude. I'm happy for him.

• 3:19Speaker 01

  Yeah, I'm happy for him, too. I'm also happy for everybody else on this show because that really cleaned up, as we mentioned. Kato Flynn won, she plays Patricia. She won for outstanding supporting actress in a comedy series. The great and good Steven Root for outstanding supporting actor in a comedy series. I was pulling for him, but I didn't think it was a lock, and I was very happy that that happened.

• 3:37Linda Holmes?

  Yeah, I was a little bit, listen, I love Steven Root. Steven Root can win anything. I'm never going to be not happy that he won. But this was also the category that Harrison Ford was nominated in for Shrinking. I think he's wonderful in Shrinking and was particularly good in this season. It's also the category that Nick Offerman was nominated in for Margot's Got Money Troubles, and he was wonderful in that. If I was going to squeak one away from Widows Bay, it might be this one, simply because I was so attached to some of the other performances. But I can take nothing away from how good Steven Root is in this, and I will never begrudge him anything. So that's fine.

• 4:14Speaker 01

  If you did try to squeak it away, I would squeak it right back.

• 4:17Linda Holmes?

  I know.

• 4:18Speaker 01

  But let's, let's keep going with the Widows Bay love. Katie Dipold won for writing, and Hero Marai won for directing. It's a really good night for a really good show. That came out of nowhere.

• 4:28Linda Holmes?

  Absolutely.

• 4:29Speaker 01

  That's what you want to see.

• 4:30Linda Holmes?

  Absolutely. And if the name Katie Dipold doesn't mean anything to you, you may have seen the famous tweet, and she was dressed up as the Babadook at a Halloween party that turned out nobody else was in costume. It's kind of, I think, the first time a lot of people found out who she was, even though she's worked on a bunch of great television and written great movies. And I'm delighted for her. And Hero Marai is a, an outstanding director who's worked on a bunch of different stuff, worked on Atlanta, worked on Mr. and Mrs. Smith, and was a producer on The Bear, and has really gotten around with a bunch of interesting projects and is kind of, to me, kind of a director of the moment and of the era. And so delighted to see him, you know, pick up something for Widows Bay.

• 5:15Speaker 01

  Yep, yep. And with all these Widows Bay wins, I pretty much got my comedy wish lists, except for one category, and that's the one we're talking about now. And I'm not going to take it away from the great and good Jean Smart, who won outstanding lead actress in a comedy series for Hacks. She won that award for every year that she was eligible for. And I'll just say this, for gay men, this was a tough one because our two mommies were fighting, right? Jean Smart and Lisa Kudrow, who was up for the comeback, of course. Jean Smart is five for five. As I say, she won for every season of that show. This is a feat. This is an achievement, and I'm not taking it away from her.

• 5:52Linda Holmes?

  No, absolutely. And I think this was not my personal favorite performance in this category. I, I think, you know, you mentioned Lisa Kudrow. There are some other ones I really loved. Again, I really loved Elle Fanning and Margot's Got Money Troubles. There were a lot of performances I liked in that category. Jean Smart is great. Jean Smart is great.

• 6:10Speaker 01

  Jean Smart is great, and she remains great. Okay. After the break, we'll talk about wins in the drama categories, plus how Mariska Hargitay fared as host, so do not go away.

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• 7:24Speaker 01

  Welcome back. And as I mentioned at the top, following Pop Culture Happy Hour is the best way to know you're staying up to date on everything, not just the Emmys. So hit that follow button on your preferred podcast app, then sit back and bask in your awesomeness. Okay, so let's go. The Pit, one for outstanding drama series. It's its second year that it won. I think people were kind of expecting this. Were you expecting this?

• 7:46Linda Holmes?

  I was expecting this. You know, there were people who didn't like this season of The Pit as much as the first season. I thought it was just as good, but different. I think they actually made some more daring choices in this season than they made in the first season. I was delighted that it won again. And that's despite the fact that, again, look, there's, there were a bunch of really good shows in this category. I also thought Pluribus was a terrific show. There's lots to like, there's lots to be in favor of. I love The Pit, man. The Pit has lots of fans for a reason, I would say.

• 8:22Speaker 01

  Yeah, absolutely. And it was, I think, a Pit versus Pluribus fight.

• 8:27Linda Holmes?

  Felt like it.

• 8:28Speaker 01

  Pluribus is a critical darling. It's very buzzy, and lots of folks love it. But it is never going to be the watercooler phenomenon that The Pit is. It just doesn't have that kind of reach. I think its appeal is maybe a little, you know, all those long, silent shots, all that wordlessness can come off a little esoteric. I mean, The Pit is a, I don't want to say crowd pleaser because it can get pretty gnarly.

• 8:49Linda Holmes?

  No, but it's, it's more digestible, for sure, I think, than Pluribus. Pluribus is a weird show.

• 8:55Speaker 01

  And it's a weird show.

• 8:57Linda Holmes?

  That kind of storytelling does not appeal to as many people necessarily as broadly as a hospital show. I think The Pit is a really, really good hospital show. You know, not unlike many hospital shows that have been very popular. It's just executed differently with some different values overlaid and some different choices of focus. But that kind of storytelling, patients come in and out. You meet the doctors, and you know what's going on in their lives. That stuff, it has always been popular, and they have found it is still popular, as opposed to very strange science fiction story that's kind of alienating, based around this character

• 9:37Linda Holmes?

  who is not very likable and often will really get under people's skin. I mean, when we talk about risk versus not risk, I think Pluribus is a different kind of risk.

• 9:51Speaker 01

  Yeah. But The Pit is led by Noah Wiley, who won once again lead actor in a drama. And talk to me about this, because Noah Wiley is one of the most likable actors we have. And he put his character through it this season and had, he, he took a very likable character and had that character make choices that could potentially turn viewers off of him and the character and the series. But he won, so tell me more.

• 10:16Linda Holmes?

  Yeah, I am not in any way saying that this is the entirety of people who liked the second season less, but there are people who liked the second season less, whose main complaint was, he's acting like such a jerk. I think having the courage to break or threaten the fondness that people have for your heroic character.

• 10:40Linda Holmes?

  To the point where they're thinking, he's just not a good boss right now. And he's sometimes not even a good doctor to people. I think that's a daring thing to do in the second season of a, of a show with a very, very likable lead and of, and a very, very likable lead actor, but also lead character who's kind of been your, this is what we wish every doctor was like.

• 11:03Speaker 01

  This is, this is not coasting. This is pushing himself. I like this. Um, so the outstanding lead actress in a drama series went finally to Ray Sehorn for Pluribus. That sound you hear listeners is the nation's TV critics unclenching.

• 11:16Linda Holmes?

  Yep.

• 11:17Speaker 01

  And finally saying, okay, we can relax because this thing that should have happened a long time ago has finally happened.

• 11:23Linda Holmes?

  Yep, absolutely. She was in Better Call Saul for a number of seasons without being nominated and it was considered something of a travesty that she had never been nominated. Then she was nominated twice, but she didn't win. And so she came over to Pluribus, she got on this show, won the Emmy in her first season as the lead of Pluribus, which I think is delightful. She's excellent in it. This show, as we've talked about, this show is weird and if you can't kind of attach to her, it doesn't work at all.

• 11:54Speaker 01

  Right.

• 11:55Linda Holmes?

  She's basically, she's not the only person in the show, but she's kind of the only person in the show. So, yeah.

• 12:01Speaker 01

  Yeah. I mean, she is the show in a, in a sense that, you know, people say that about a lot of different shows. This, in this case, it's, uh, it's true. Vince Gilligan also won for outstanding writing for a drama, uh, for Pluribus. He's won Emmys before. This is the first one for this new show. That's great.

• 12:19Linda Holmes?

  Yeah, absolutely. Really like Vince Gilligan. Happy to see him having a new show that, that works well.

• 12:23Speaker 01

  Allison Janney won in outstanding supporting actress in a drama series for her work on The Diplomat, outstanding supporting actor in a drama series, went to Tom Pelfrey in Task. I didn't expect that, but I think you did because you might've seen this pit split coming. Talk to me about that.

• 12:37Linda Holmes?

  Yeah. So what happened is that both the supporting actress drama and the supporting actor drama categories had seven nominees, right? Which is a lot. In the actress category, four of the seven were from the pit. In the actor category, three of the seven were from the pit. And you can end up kind of splitting your vote. Not, I mean, people will talk about splitting the vote when there's two. I don't necessarily think that it comes into play that much when there's two. I do think when there's three or four, all of whom are kind of well-liked by different people for different reasons. I suspect there was some vote splitting that went on, but with that said, Allison Janney is Allison Janney.

• 13:18Linda Holmes?

  And in The Diplomat was highly praised for that performance and deserves to be, and she's her, right? She's Allison Janney, right? And it's the same, I had heard a ton of praise for that Tom Pelfrey performance on its own. There were people who thought he was going to win anyway because Task was a heavily promoted, you know, HBO product, likely to win something. So I was not surprised by either of these all that much. She's very good on The Diplomat. She's, Allison Janney is very scary on The Diplomat. She's very scheming, very scheming.

• 13:52Speaker 01

  Oh, interesting. Okay. Slow Horses, one for directing in a drama series that went to Sol Metzstein. And let's move on to talking now about outstanding limited or anthology series. You know, when these nominations came out, one of your takeaways was very, very smart. You said that there was a time when this category was the most exciting, uh, was featuring some of the most compelling and innovative storytelling performances. You're talking about things like Married to Easttown and Wandavision and I May Destroy You and Underground Railroad. I don't get the sense that these shows are the ones capturing the zeitgeist right now.

• 14:24Linda Holmes?

  Well, the Academy didn't think so because they put most of the awards for limited series or anthology, uh, over in the creative arts.

• 14:33Speaker 01

  Right.

• 14:34Linda Holmes?

  Ceremonies that happened before the ceremony tonight. So they don't think that they're the hottest ticket. Uh, now in the end, DTF St. Louis, which won outstanding limited or anthology series and also won some of the other awards in this realm, is a show that a lot of people really like. I personally didn't watch it, I will acknowledge, but it is a show people like, but I don't think we're in that place where there's a lot of kind of excitement about this category in the same way that, you know, the ones that you mentioned, which people were so intense about and so attached to. I don't really get that.

• 15:14Speaker 01

  Yeah. Okay. So, uh, DTF St. Louis, as you mentioned, wins outstanding limited or anthology series. Sally Field, one for outstanding lead actress in a limited or anthology series and movie. This was for her work in the Netflix movie Remarkably Bright Creatures.

• 15:27Linda Holmes?

  Yep.

• 15:28Speaker 01

  Yeah, Sally Field, Sally Field won an Emmy. This is a thing that you can kind of-

• 15:32Linda Holmes?

  Absolutely. You know, some actors have just been around a long time and it never hurts to see them win again. Again, a movie I did not watch, but a movie that I know a lot of people really liked, based on a novel that a lot of people really liked. Can't argue with Sally Field.

• 15:48Speaker 01

  Outstanding reality competition went to The Traitors.

• 15:53Linda Holmes?

  Good show.

• 15:54Speaker 01

  Good show. Emmy's pick a favorite, uh, reality competition and they kind of stick with it for years.

• 15:58Linda Holmes?

  Yes.

• 15:59Speaker 01

  So this is the third time in a row for The Traitors. We're probably going to get some more.

• 16:01Linda Holmes?

  Yep, I think so. They have, as you said, they're very loyal. I think partly because a lot of people who, uh, vote in these awards don't necessarily watch very many of these shows, so they vote for whatever won last year. With that said, The Traitors, I think is a good show. And I think a lot of that award is for Alan Cumming and Alan Cumming's an exceptionally good host, so.

• 16:20Speaker 01

  And he won for, uh, reality host.

• 16:22Linda Holmes?

  Yes, he did. Yes, he did.

• 16:24Speaker 01

  Okay. Outstanding variety series went to The Late Show with Stephen Colbert. That has an air of inevitability to it, didn't it?

• 16:30Linda Holmes?

  1,000%. Yes, obviously. They went off the air this year and there were a certain number of, you know, there was a lot of mourning of the end of that show and also some joyful celebrating of what that show had been. If you saw, uh, him performing with David Byrne and David Byrne's, uh, outfit, really fun, really celebratory, joyful. But yes, because of the circumstances, this felt inevitable. Yes.

• 16:59Speaker 01

  Okay. And now let's pivot to the broadcast itself, hosted by Mariska Hargitay. What'd you think?

• 17:06Linda Holmes?

  You know, she's not a professional comedian. She's not a traditional awards show host. She's an actor and she's been in television, as they referred to over and over again. She's been in television for a gazillion years. Been on SVU since, I think, 1999. And they referred repeatedly to the, the length of time that show's been on. I think she was incredibly game and kind of dorky and cringey. They had her do a, a very bad opening number, which I kind of think was bad on purpose to a degree. I think it was cheesy, corny, earnest on, on purpose, like, like an aunt trying to be cool. And I say that as an aunt who is not cool.

• 17:51Speaker 01

  Exactly.

• 17:52Linda Holmes?

  I think that that's what they were sort of going for and I think it did that. Over the course of the evening, did I think everything she did was great? No, but she's incredibly game. She was very willing. They called upon a couple of things that people know about her. She went to one of the Knicks games with Taylor Swift. So Taylor Swift showed up in a pre-taped skit with a bunch of the SVU regulars. So she participated, she was enthusiastic, she brought a lot of energy, and I think

• 18:37Linda Holmes?

  that's kind of what you need from a host, which I will always prefer to, you know, you'll remember last year at this time, we were watching Nate Bargatze, who did the whole thing with sort of an air of, I don't really care about or know about television. This is stupid. And that's a quite, unfortunately, quite a common award show host attitude. I always greatly dislike it. So be a nerd who loves the thing, you know?

• 19:06Speaker 01

  Yeah. I mean, we're on the same page here because, uh, this is an award show. It can't be cool.

• 19:12Linda Holmes?

  Uh-uh, exactly.

• 19:14Speaker 01

  By, by the very, if you try to make it cool, you make it snide.

• 19:17Linda Holmes?

  Exactly.

• 19:18Speaker 01

  And dismissive. And so don't make it cool. I mean, and I am never going to turn my nose up at a production number where there's dancing television sets, you know, like, and cheesy song parodies, corn, like this is a stew. An award show is a stew, adding some cornstarch to a stew. I'm never going to turn my nose up at that either because it makes it stick to the ribs. She's game, she commits to the bit, even when that bit is terrible.

• 19:42Speaker 04

  And I gotta say, you know, over the years, there've been a lot of jokes about his name, which is so unfair because Dick Wolf isn't even his real name.

• 19:54Speaker 04

  His real name is Richard Penis.

• 19:57Linda Holmes?

  I think whoever wrote it just thought it would be funny to see her say it. I think that's, I think that's probably as deep as it went. It was a mixed bag for her, for sure, but I thought she acquitted herself quite well.

• 20:07Speaker 01

  I mean, they obviously went, they made moves to revitalize the broadcast this year. Uh, the Emmys did a big one was reducing the number of awards handed out tonight by pretty early on in the night. This is what I'm saying. The structure was weird. All of the acting awards had been handed out. We did get a lot fewer clip packages, which always feel like padding. You know, there was that one year where we just had actors from old shows kind of come on stage and stand there on the set of their old show.

• 20:34Linda Holmes?

  We did not have that this year, and I was glad.

• 20:36Speaker 01

  It was just there to acknowledge the fact that, uh, time has an effect on human skin. That's, that's the only thing, the reason I could figure out why they were doing that. But by front loading the actor categories, I don't know, actors are good TV. They're familiar faces. They're energetic. They're charismatic. They engender good feelings because you, you're personally invested in them in a way that you're maybe not as invested in directors, writers, producers. Consequently, the last half of the broadcast kind of went off a cliff in terms of pacing and the mood. And it, it also got heavy because we, we hit a wall of in memoriam, which I think were very tasteful and, and well executed, but we hit this wall of in memoriam's that really, I was missing the corn. I was missing the shtick. I was missing Mariska.

• 21:19Linda Holmes?

  Yeah. You first had the Bob Hope humanitarian award, which went to Michael J. Fox for his work trying to find a cure for Parkinson's, which I think that work's very admirable. I think it was very good to kind of hear him talk about that work and, you know, to recognize everything that he has done. I love that guy. And he was very funny when he popped up on Shrinking. I was very happy about that. So that was warm, but heavy, right? And then, like you said, we went into, you know, there was a Dolly Parton in memoriam. There was a Catherine O'Hara in memoriam. There was the general in memoriam that showed kind of everybody ending on James Burrows. And then Jamie Lee Curtis had a memoriam to Rob Reiner.

• 22:03Linda Holmes?

  I think, as you sort of alluded to, I think all of those were fine for what they were, and they were very deserved, right? I wouldn't have wanted them to skip. I don't know if Reba McEntire singing a song on the Emmys to honor Dolly Parton is what I would have done as opposed to maybe showing some stuff Dolly Parton did on TV. But obviously deserved. Catherine O'Hara in memoriam, obviously deserved. Part of this is just there were several people. I think they felt they needed to take an extra moment and acknowledge. But the cumulative effect was that in the back half of the show, you had not that many awards that felt competitive anymore. Because I was pretty sure when Widows Bay was going to win comedy series, particularly by this point.

• 22:48Linda Holmes?

  And I was pretty sure the pit was going to win drama series. So kind of what are, what are we waiting for?

• 22:54Speaker 01

  Right.

• 22:55Linda Holmes?

  That's going to be great television. And in the meanwhile, in the meantime, everything's very, very sad. But they messed up the pacing so that at the very, very end, they were asking Woody Harrelson and Matthew McConaughey to vamp, which I think is the least, the most not optimal outcome you could possibly come up with is putting those guys out there and being like, just talk for a while.

• 23:23Speaker 01

  You're so, yeah.

• 23:24Linda Holmes?

  First of all, you've already played people off the stage during their speeches a few times.

• 23:29Speaker 01

  They see her, yeah.

• 23:29Linda Holmes?

  That makes the, you know, the, well, we've got extra time to fill feel particularly bad. You've cut several awards from the show to leave extra time. And now you find that you need these two dudes, who I personally feel I have heard talk enough. You're just asking them to fill time.

• 23:49Speaker 01

  It can't help but feel like you're kind of stuck in a dorm room with them late at night. You know what I mean?

• 23:54Linda Holmes?

  For real.

• 23:54Speaker 01

  These are the guys who you don't need to tell to stretch because they, their whole life, their whole vibe is stretch. But, uh, yeah, but we always have something to say about the broadcast itself. It's always, it's a, it's, it's always a kind of a lumpy mess.

• 24:10Linda Holmes?

  Yeah.

• 24:10Speaker 01

  But again, you just needed somebody like her to sell it. She did her best to sell it. I was mostly sold.

• 24:17Linda Holmes?

  She did. And listen, at the end of an Emmy's night, I'm always looking back being like, how pleased am I about the people that they honored? And, and honestly, across the board, very pleased. Like, there really aren't any of these that I look at and I say, that's a travesty. There are people that I look at and I say, oh, I also would have loved to see that person win, right? I also would have loved to see something for Shrinking. I would have loved to see something for Margot's Got Money troubles in this ceremony, right? I've got that on my mind, but the things that actually won, I can't complain about that.

• 24:51Speaker 01

  All right. Well, it's the end of another Emmy's night. That brings us to the end of our show. Linda Holmes, thank you so much for being here and go to bed.

• 24:58Linda Holmes?

  Oh, thank you, buddy. I appreciate that.

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