Nike in Freefall, OpenAI Fires Spies, & G7 Dumps 100M Barrels | PBD #867

Patrick Bet-David and the Home Team react to the mysterious death of a researcher at a Russian anti-plague lab that triggered quarantines and international concern, the G7 releasing 100 million barrels of emergency oil and fuel reserves as prices surge, and Nike’s historic struggles as Jordan loses momentum and stars move to competitors. Plus AI spying, Big Tech, the economy, Trump and more. 👞 Get the NEW Billionaire Suede Loafer: https://bit.ly/4ym5oRA 👕 SHOP THE ICON COLLECTION: https://bit.ly/3TuUU3x 👞 GET THE FLB1's: https://bit.ly/4mC4uf6 Ⓜ️ CONNECT ON MINNECT: https://bit.ly/4kSVkso Ⓜ️ PBD PODCAST CIRCLES: https://bit.ly/4mAWQAP 👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: https://bit.ly/4lzQph2 🥃 BOARDROOM CIGAR LOUNGE: https://bit.ly/4pzLEXj 🇰 KALSHI: http://kalshi.com/pbd SUBSCRIBE TO: @VALUETAINMENT @BetDavidConsulting @vtgenz @ValuetainmentComedy ABOUT US: Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides

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  My handshake is better than anything I ever signed, right here.

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  You are a one of one?

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  My son's right there. I don't think I've ever said this before.

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  Hey, how you guys doing? Hope you had a good weekend. I know we did, you know, that what I have now is I have reminders for people to tell me there's baseball games and I wish some people wouldn't remind me of one of the games that happened this weekend, but it is what it is. I mean, what could have Cole done? The guy, the guy pitches, you know, he does a good job, but hitters, they go, you can't get one hit. So shout out to, uh, uh, uh, who was the pitcher's name? Rasmus? Rasmus. You gotta give him a shout out, man. Phenomenal job for what he did with that. Everybody kept telling me how special he is. I think he's 16 and four, but you can tell this guy's a dog. Yes, he is. And good for you, but we got more games coming up here. Uh, there's a video I watched. Obviously we've got a lot of stories to cover, but I watched an interview with Denzel Washington. Let me tell you.

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  The lady asks him a question about what do you think about all the things that are going on in the world and America politically? His answer is something every Republican, Democrat and independent should listen to. And I'm gonna share that with you here today because I think it's brilliant, the way Denzel answered it. And I think if there's anybody that can break that down, it's Denzel. I'm a big fan of his and I think it's something we ought to cover. Uh, Nike stock is dropping left and right. I mean, you saw the other day, uh, Mbappe, Mbappe just signed a 10 year contract, not with Nike, not with Adidas, not with Puma, not with anybody but Oncloud. What? Really?

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  Mbappe signs a 10 year, $210 million contract with Oncloud. Wow. I sat there, you know what I told the guys? I said, if I knew Mbappe was on the line, we would have made an offer like that to get Mbappe come to FLB. I mean, eventually it's going to get to that point, but you're watching how the market is open right now. With what they're doing, but yeah, he signed a 210 million dollar contract and a major move. Mbappe leaves Nike for wanting to be the heart of its new football category at his prime. This is the all time leading scorer in fricking World Cup ever. And the guy's now with Oncloud. So Nike's dropped, you know, Nike's dropped their revenue in China, nine quarters in a row.

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  Their stock has plummeted like this, but nine quarters in a row, they're selling less and less and less and less in China. They made a few mistakes. So it's not just here in America. No, it's not. This is all over the place. It is. And by the way, it's impacting also Jordan's income. Jordan, uh, it's dropped 8%, something like that. He might have to start doing interviews again to make. Play basketball again. He's gonna be fine. He's worth $5 billion, but you know, it is impacting. G7 decides to release 100 million barrels with everything that's going on. West Texas.

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  Oil this morning, Tom told me it's 8980 and Tom also whispered to us that with Newsom talking about how great his state is, the fourth biggest economy in the world, or the fifth biggest economy in the world. Diesel is also the highest, uh, in America, 830 right now in the state of California. If you're in California, driving those old Mercedes diesels, you're paying 830. That's why my dad used to drive the old Mercedes diesels. You're paying 830. Then aside from that, uh, rumors comes out from Russia. Hey, there may be a little virus spreading in Russia. Cost this girl's life. She died because she touched the, you know, she was messing around there. Then they put 200 people and shut down Russia. I was saying, don't worry about it. We have it under control.

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  And the rest of the world is supposed to believe they have it under control. And so who knows? We'll, we'll, we'll get into that as well. Never heard that. I've never heard that story before. That's weird.

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  Last 10 years, obviously. Never seen that movie. An article comes out, uh, data showing that being gay is no longer as cool as it used to be six years ago. Told you. That, that so it is not, I mean, you know, but, uh, and by the way, this is coming direct from CDC. This is not even making fun. This is not trolling or rage baiting. It's CDC data showing it's declining. It's declining. And I watch what happens when companies like Disney start realizing it's not a good idea. And then kids don't want to be that because naturally that's not how God created. Men and women to be naturally, naturally, that's not how it was created. Last week we had Jacob Cox, Jacob Coxon on.

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  The anthropic whistleblower and the interview drops tomorrow and we talked about Chinese spies in different anthropic and open AI organizations. Open AI just fires three safety researchers accusing of sharing confidential company information. And anthropic claims popular Chinese AI model has mythos, class hacking abilities. I wonder where they're getting it from. And if it's being passed down. Uh, from folks that are working at, uh, anthropic or open AI that are Chinese nationals, or if they're building it themselves, who knows? The reality of it is as a, as a Chinese national, you can work for these AI agencies and companies.

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  So maybe they're just passing on the information to others. Men are losing ground on the labor market. Here's why. It's an article from CNBC, which we'll get into and it. Another article by Zero Hedge talks about 11 million Americans. Workers may need to change careers, switch careers by 2035. Tom Cruise comes out with a movie. What's the movie called? By the way, Digger? Digger. It's called Digger, $160 million climate propaganda film, Digger. You know what it makes opening weekend? Can he tell us what it makes opening weekend? $8 million, the biggest flop of 2020. So let me put it to you this way. Imagine you put $1,600 in a investment that a guy is telling you, oh, we're gonna do so well. And in the opening weekend where most of the money is made, you make $80.

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  Not $80 on your 1600, the $80 back of the $1,600 that you invested. That's what happened on opening, opening weekend. It's not a good place to be. Uh, then a couple of other stories I have here as well as a, uh, how a son views his father, views his father. At age five, 10, 15, 20, 30, 40, and how it ends at the end, the relationship between a father and son. I want to share that with you. And then, and then Putin. Tells Russian troops to abandon every standard for war that we have, abandon it, forget about it because of what Ukraine just did. Ukraine.

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  Makes claims that it forced 250 Russian soldiers to surrender in a daring operation. Can you imagine to get 250 Russian? Soldiers to, you know, uh, surrender and you're publicly telling this to the world. Imagine how Putin feels. What? And that story makes it back to Russia. You're not going to be too happy about that, but that's the other story we'll get into. And then a couple of last stories we got France, you know, all the, what do you call the riots that's going on there? It's a little messy. Disney's layoffs, Disney's president comes out and says, we have to lay off. It's extremely painful, but necessary. I wonder why you had to do it.

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  And then last but not least, first time in history, Besen says that Iran no longer has oil revenue coming in. First time in history, Besen is saying Iran doesn't have any.

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  Revenue coming in right now from oil. And when Besen talks, Besen doesn't mess around. Besen's not a rage baiting guy. Besen's not trying to play strategy with you. He's not trying to play the power plays. Trump gets those games. Besen doesn't play games. Besen's the guy. When he says that's happening, that's happening. And, uh, people better recognize when Besen's saying certain things. And to the Republican party, there's a lot of things that are out there. There's four types of voters I want to tell you about today, four types of voters. And the Republican party is making mistakes because they're getting a lot of third type of voters.

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  How does Nike lose the biggest soccer star today to Oncloud? And you see how Nike's shares in China, quarter after quarter after quarter, has dropped. Greater China revenue dropped 22% reported, 26% currency neutral in the last quarter alone. And by the way, nine quarters in a row, which is a little over two years, China, Nike has lost their revenue in China, nine quarters in a row. Nike lost ground to faster-moving competitors like Oncloud, Adidas, Hoka, and others. At the same time, we talked about this last time, Tom, the fact that their wholesalers, they started becoming competitive with their wholesalers. Before, they would sell it to wholesalers.

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  Now Nike got cocky and said, we don't need wholesalers anymore. We can sell it on our own. Don't worry about it. You guys are lucky. And they're like, wait a minute. What are you talking about? You're cutting us. We've been the wholesaler for you. They cut them through. And then their digital is shrinking. Nike Direct fell 8%. Nike Brand Digital fell 13% for fiscal 2026. The Jordan Brand and Sports Bar business has also weakened. I'm sure Michael's not too happy about that. Revenue growth has basically disappeared. Fiscal 2026 revenue was only $46.4 billion, flat reported and down 2% currency neutral. Turnaround has taken much longer than Wall Street. Hoped Elliott Hill returned as CEO in 2024 and has made some changes, but nothing that's crazy right now. So Tom, when you're looking at what's going on with them?

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  By the way, let me give you some market cap numbers. At the end of 2021, Vinny, Nike's market cap was $264 billion. Okay? $264 billion. You know what their market cap is today?

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  $150 billion.

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  I don't know if you heard what I just said.

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  260?

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  That's like you have $262,000 in the bank that's down to $50,000 in your mutual fund. That's like you went from having $2.6 million in your 401K. It's down to $50,000. It's down to half a million dollars from $260 billion to $50 billion. Tom, what happened with Nike?

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  So here's what happened with Nike. Nike did three things to itself. First of all, it decided that what it was seeing in all the direct-to-consumer stuff, it was going to go after. It goes after direct-to-consumer. And it did so on logic. And the logic was this. Malls are having more trouble with foot traffic. We've all read about malls.

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  Of course.

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  And so Nike was sitting. Remember, they're not dumb. They just made what turns out to be a bad decision. They're in the boardroom and saying, how hard should we bet on Foot Locker with all this mall stuff going away? Should we protect? Should we sell direct-to-consumer? Well, they had some strategic decisions to make, therefore, about distribution, but they fumbled it. They pissed people off. They didn't do it moderate. They didn't look at, I don't think they looked at data hard enough. I think they're more emotional about it. Basically what I've seen. And by the way, Elliott Hill wasn't there. Elliott Hill, you know, was the CEO that got brought back after being gone for two years, right? He came out of retirement two years ago in '24. And so they're like, hey, who else came out of retirement?

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  Major US brand, major market cap problem.

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  Disney.

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  Howard Schultz came out of retirement at Starbucks. But then they went off and got Brian Niccol. And guess what? It's shifting, it's turning. The guy comes out of retirement. Howard says, we got to fix this at Starbucks, and we need a guy to drive it. They go get Brian Niccol and look at what they are. They're turning it around. So first, they have a distribution. And the second thing they have is product. Product was getting kind of long in the tooth. And they completely missed. Did you know that the guys that created the Oncloud Foot brought their foam? And they took a garden hose and they cut three segments and stuck it in there to make those openings that you see in the Oncloud sole? Do you know who they brought that to?

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  Who?

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  Nike. You know what Nike said? No, thanks. We're good. We're doing our own things with air flight and foam and everything. Don't need it. So they do that. So they missed it. So what happens is Nike kind of has missed some of the innovation and stuff that was coming. And they've been relying on Air Jordan, which isn't a bad thing to rely on, by the way. It's done well. And then they started getting into all of their retro shoes and helping the sneaker heads. Like, you know, the Air Max 95, any color, anyway. And you have the Air Max 95, half sole, full sole. They have products that's kind of long in the tooth, and it didn't really take off. There's Air Maxes right there. You know, I had pairs of those gray ones right there.

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  Yep.

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  Yep. Great, great, great, great shoe. So the second was distribution. And then the third was they ran into the audience. They ran straight into the audience. And what they did, the audience wasn't ready for all the Nike stuff. They should have taken advice from Michael Jordan. Republicans buy sneakers too. And they went headlong into the Nike thing. It got really, really weird. And you know what? People didn't like it. Core people didn't. And they didn't like it at a time when alternatives were showing up in the market. All of that has come now to put them in position. And then Mbappe, as Pat already covered, says, you know, what brand do I want to bet on?

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  A brand that's going to grow. And Oncloud or Ontechnology gave Mbappe the same pitch. I went and looked it up. Remember Nike, we'll build it around you. You won't be just another guy at Converse, and you won't be a person at Adidas waiting for them to decide. You will be you, and we will build this around you. And you remember the movie Air and that Hollywood, you know, glamorized it a little bit. But one thing was truth. Sonny Barone and them sold it. And so now On just sold the same thing to Mbappe. Nike is yesterday. We are cruising. We are growing the future.

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  Vinny, what do you?

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  And Tom, I want to ask you a question, though. Is there an opportunity for them to get out of this? Number one. And then number two, is this a time, you know, when the stock is low to buy? And let's not forget, these guys embraced how many controversial, from Dylan Mulvaney to Colin Kaepernick, to all that stuff, and they forgot about their core customer base, Tom, okay? Now they're cutting other jobs. They're doing all this, you know, restructuring. They have to return to sports and athletes, okay? The formula, like, I still am shocked. This is Nike, this is one of the brands where you're like, there's no way, Pat, that this is going to go down.

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  I'm going to tell you this, though. Last week was my last day with PHB Agency. September 30th, I wrote my letter of resignation. We had agreed, nothing bad. It's just we already knew that you're in advance that this day was coming. It was an automatic resignation, not like a, where the non-compete starts on that day. And not that I'm trying to get back into space at all. But I wrote a long email. When I tell you a long email, like one of those emails where only the people that are involved in it, I got a lot of messages, a lot of calls from some people who were calling me and telling me, hey, you know, I was emotional with this thing, and I was emotional with that thing. But I talked about the threats and things to be careful with. So you're asking a very good question. So.

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  I remember interviewing a guy that they wanted to hire as the potential CEO of the company. And I asked him, I said, in the interview, I said, what do you think about capitalism? Well, you know, it's got some good and it's got some bad and it's got some this. And what do you think about this? And what do you think about that? And I'm like, I don't know if it's gonna work. And I told the guy, I said, I don't think it's gonna work out or not. Why is that? We have a very strong culture. So if you come in and you don't speak that culture, you're gonna lose some of our best guys in the company. Because culture is what kept people here. So who approved these hires? And how much control did you lose in hires?

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  To believe two of the greatest brands America has ever produced, Nike and Disney, made the same exact mistakes. What made you believe it's okay for them to go talk like this? Was it ESG? Was it too much DEI? Who were you trying to win over? You were trying to win over Colin Kaepernick? Who were you trying to win over? Dylan Mulvaney? Who? You know what On cloud did? They went and hired somebody called Thierry Henry, who is one of the greatest players of all time in soccer. You know, you've always seen the video with him and Ronaldo and him and Zlatan did a great job with commentary. They brought him. So guess how sequencing works? On cloud says, who does Mbappe admire? Mbappe admires Thierry Henry. So they went and brought him and then he went and recruited who?

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  Mbappe. Where is the era on Ray from? Who did he play for? Where is Mbappe from? The France. So it's a very good strategic move that they made. So, hey, if we want Mbappe, who do we get first? Sequencing. I think they, you know, sometimes in businesses, you think your customers are gonna be there forever because you want them once. You're gonna win them over. No, in business, there's this concept that we always talk about is you have to re-engage with your customers. You have to re-recruit your people. You have to resell them the dream. You have to re-ignite your consumer base. You have to re-excite, re-enter everything. You're in the re-game.

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  Yeah.

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  So guess what? If you don't like the re-game, sell and leave. But if you want to stay in business and compete, guess what you need to do? You need to re-earn everyone's business over and over and over again. And Nike screwed up. They thought they're gonna have the customers forever. They thought the retailers owed them shelf life forever. They thought the China thing was like, oh, printing money. China is gonna be with us forever. They don't realize China sells your products versus copies your products and gets rid of you and then starts selling it. Their own products. And they thought they're gonna have the Jordan brand forever and it was gonna be a blue chip stuff. They thought these players were always gonna come to Nike and not go other places. And it's a mistake that you see happen regularly over and over again across the board with every industry. Adam, final thoughts before we move.

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  Yeah, there's, there's a lot to say. You know, in sports, you, you have hills and mountains that you have to climb. Like, look at the Lakers for an example. So in the eighties, the Lakers were the best team on the planet, them and the Celtics. Then they had, I don't want to upset you, Pat, 10 years of absolute nothingness. And then they had to reinvent themselves.

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  Cedric Sabalas, Tony Smith, said they'll treat Nick Van Exel.

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  Not, not that bueno.

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  Alvin Campbell.

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  Not that bueno. Then they got Shaq and Kobe and then they went on a run again.

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  Yep.

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  And then 10 years of nothingness. And then Kobe got Pau Gasol. The point is that the Lakers were the best. Then they kinda sucked and they became the best again. They had to reinvent.

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  You think that's gonna happen on Nike again?

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  I'm just saying that at the end of the day, you're gonna have to reinvent yourself. They've had this magical 40-year run.

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  Here's the question for you. Do you think going woke is a permanent loss of one year, two years of customers? Do you think it's a decade or do you think it's a 20-year mistake?

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  Honestly, when, once your brand loses its reputation, I don't know how long it's gonna take to get back. Maybe never.

• 21:29Speaker 01

  But, but, but like, are you understanding the question I'm asking?

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  Yeah.

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  I'm asking a question, Tom, because sometimes you make a mistake and you ask yourself, is that a one-month, three-month mistake setback? Is that a three, 12 months or is that permanent?

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  Let me give you an example.

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  Go ahead.

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  Colin Kaepernick. When you think of Colin Kaepernick, what do you think of?

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  Vailing. Victimhood.

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  Sure. Nailing, not respecting the flag. Who embraced them wholeheartedly?

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  Nike did.

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  I think of Nike.

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  Forty million dollars.

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  So to me, when I think of Nike, I don't longer just think of MJ. They had, they had the best athletes in the world. MJ, Kobe.

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  What are you saying?

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  Serena.

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  Permanent?

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  Tiger. Now I think of Nike, I think of Colin Kaepernick. And they're trying to reinvent themselves with the WNBA. Katelyn Clark, Asia Wilson, Sabrina Innesco. I can't believe I even know all these names. Where's the big name? I guess here's my number one question. Where's the next MJ?

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  You didn't answer my question.

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  You answered the question. The question is how long is this last?

• 22:24Speaker 02

  I did answer the question. I said it could potentially be forever. It's not a one or two-year thing.

• 22:29Speaker 01

  Okay. So, so to me, there are certain mistakes that you, you make that are fatal and never comes back. And sometimes when you make those mistakes, there are customers that every business owner is willing to lose. Because if you're, if you're, if you're, if you get to a point where you're like, well, like, imagine if we said, do we really wanna lose the socialist listenership to the podcast? Think about what I just said right now. Do we really, do we not wanna have the communists listen to our podcast?

• 22:57Speaker 02

  Okay, listen.

• 22:58Speaker 01

  Do we not wanna have these guys that are sympathizers of terrorists listen to our? We want those guys, don't we want? No, sometimes.

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  No, we're good.

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  But there's a difference between messaging. We're in a different business. We're giving a pin. We're in a business of opinion, right? We're giving our opinion. This, this business is not the business of opinion. This isn't a business of just do it. This isn't a business of eliminating excuses. They got into the opinion business. Once they got into the opinion business, you permanently lose some of those people.

• 23:24Speaker 02

  Exactly.

• 23:25Speaker 01

  It's very simple. So that, that's, that's what could happen here.

• 23:27Speaker 02

  Tom said Republicans buy sneakers too.

• 23:29Speaker 01

  Let me get to the next story.

• 23:30Speaker 02

  Unfortunately, go woke.

• 23:30Speaker 01

  I'm gonna get to the next story. Next one I wanna get into is what happened with AI spies that are getting into OpenAI and Anthropic. And this goes with the conversation I had last week with Jacob Cox and the Anthropic whistleblower that came out and said, hey, you know, Tesla cannot have any Chinese nationals work there, but Anthropic and OpenAI can. And I started thinking, what do you mean by that? This interview drops tomorrow. So watch what happens a couple of those, a couple of days later in a story. Couple of days later, OpenAI fires three safety researchers accused of sharing confidential company information. What? Three researchers have been fired from OpenAI after allegedly sharing confidential company information with a third-party AI safety organization. Sources told Wall Street Journal that three worked on the company's safety team.

• 24:15Speaker 01

  We have parted ways with three individuals for violating our policies on accessing and handling sensitive company information. An OpenAI spokesperson said, our investigation confirmed that these individuals mishandled sensitive information outside established company procedures, violating our policies and breaking the trust essential to our work. The firing came as OpenAI and other major AI companies have disclosed incidents involved AI models engaging in unexpected behavior or anonymously accessing other company systems. OpenAI has outlined three, six instances of what it's called misaligned behavior, including models creating self-generated instructions, concealing mistakes in task summaries,

• 24:57Speaker 01

  fabricating information using exposed AI keys and engaging in unsanctioned communication between agents. OpenAI's safety leaders also decided not to release its new AI model, GPT-6.1 Astra, due to safety concerns. For anything regarding safety and alignment, there's a trade-off. OpenAI's head of safety system said, the model didn't quite meet the bar. So, Tom, when, when this, how much more of these types of stories do you think we're gonna be hearing moving forward?

• 25:23Speaker 02

  We're gonna hear a lot of them and I'll tell you why we're gonna hear a lot of them. Because in related news, just two days before that,

• 25:32Speaker 02

  they say, Anthropic says, hey, we're looking at an IPO the week of November 9th. As early as the week of November 9th, as long as we can get coverage at $2 trillion in valuation. So why are they saying both of these things at the same time? And remember, they put the, the S1 was a confidential S1 that they put to SEC.gov. So we can't go look at it the way we could go to SEC.gov and we could read the S1s for companies that are going public. We can't. Well, Anthropic says, no, no, no. We think we could go out as early as November 9th, $2 trillion valuation. Well, if that's what they're trying to do, then they have to clear the deck, Pat, of all this PR. And so what better way to clear the deck of the PR?

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  I know we came out and said we worried about this. I know we were talking about, you know, hugging face. I know we were talking about this. We fired three of the bastards. Ha, we're taking action. I think it's that. I think they're trying to, I'm being a little dramatic, but I think what they're really trying to say is, hey, we take safety seriously.

• 26:33Speaker 01

  This is a way of saying we're responsible. It's not like anything crazy happened. It's, it's for investors to say, oh, wow, look how responsible OpenAI is.

• 26:40Speaker 02

  Correct. And to pull back any congressional, here's a bad word. Hearings that might be going on when you're trying to go to Wall Street because you can't do both. People will say, wait, wait, wait. We're not going public if you're in the middle of congressional hearings or going for 60 days on AI safety. You know, sorry, dude, you're not gonna do that. No one will let them. The SEC will come out and say, stop. We're, we're investigating all these safety things. You're not going out. Remember, the SEC has to allow it. So I think it's, I think it's both. I think they're trying to look responsible, as you say.

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• 28:22Speaker 01

  Adam, where are you at with this one?

• 28:24Speaker 04

  Look, I haven't followed this exact story, but this isn't like this one person they fired, three people they fired. I wonder, what's the basis of the story? Were they working together, these three of these people, Tom? Were they independent? Trying to go deeper on this story, but then I have an overall.

• 28:39Speaker 01

  Well, let me do this while you're thinking that. So, let me go into this. So what I'm concerned about is the following. I want to know how often this has happened with Chinese nationals? Because you have to, like.

• 28:52Speaker 04

  Were these all Chinese nationals?

• 28:54Speaker 01

  What does it mean? No, not necessarily. No. What does it mean when people are sharing sensitive information? What does that mean? It's espionage. Okay, so, and who are you sharing it with? We didn't really know who they're sharing it with. Like, where did it go? When I go and I think about things that concern me, here's what I think about. There's a few different people. So, think about Google. A person named Lin Wei Liang Ding at Google, a PRC national and Google AI engineers. Prosecutors said he stole more than 2,000 pages of confidential AI material involving Google's TPU GPU supercomputing infrastructure while secretly affiliated with two China-based AI companies.

• 29:37Speaker 01

  So in January 2026, he was convicted on seven counts of economic espionage and seven counts of trade secret theft for the benefit of the PRC. Can you look up this name, please? Lin Wei Ding, Google. L I N W E I, then D I N G, Google. Yeah, this one right here. This just happened, just so you know. This just happened a few months ago. You got another one with Apple. Zhi Long Zheng. Obviously, you don't have to ask if these guys are from Afghanistan or US or Brazil. It's very obvious. Former Apple self-driving car engineer. He was accused of downloading autonomous driving trade secrets before planning to work for Chinese EV company Zhepeng

• 30:20Speaker 01

  and arrested while trying to board a flight to China. He later pleaded guilty to trade secret theft. Okay, so this, by the way, just so you know, and this is recent. Then I'll give you another one. Wei Bao Wang, where do you think he's from? I'll let you guess. I'm gonna keep going.

• 30:35Speaker 04

  From the Wu-Tang.

• 30:36Speaker 01

  Former Apple autonomous system engineer. Prosecutors allege he took Apple's source code and technical material after accepting a job. You're gonna see where I'm going with this, where my concern is.

• 30:48Speaker 04

  I'm starting to like.

• 30:48Speaker 01

  A job with the US subsidiary of a PRC headquartered autonomous driving company. Okay, by the way, you know who got involved in this? The FBI got involved in this.

• 30:56Speaker 04

  Of course they did.

• 30:57Speaker 01

  This remains an allegation, not a conviction with this one. Hao Zheng, where do you think that guy is from? Skyworks, a PRC citizen who worked at Skyworks. Prosecutors proved he and collaborators stole wireless semiconductor trade secrets and used them to build a competing operation tied to Tian University. And DOJ described it as instrumental of Chinese government. He was convicted of economic espionage and trade secret theft. I'll give you one other one here. Wei Peng Avago Technologies, another PRC. By the way, there's two Wei Peng, apparently. Wei Peng.

• 31:33Speaker 04

  Two Wei Pengs?

• 31:34Speaker 01

  DOJ alleged that he and Zheng took FBAR semiconductor technology and shared it with conspirators. Again, a China-based venture. He was charged in the same economic espionage. Okay, so you know some of the people on MAGA or Republicans that are not happy with Trump in what area? The one area where he's like, yeah, we want to have 600,000 Chinese students come here, go to our universities. And China would love for that to happen. Why would they love to happen? You think they're just coming here to learn our stuff and take you back to China? Or do you think those people that are coming here are true believers of China? They want to come and get the intel? See what we're doing, move into our companies? You have to be very, very careful with how China runs. The US model is you have two terms when you become president.

• 32:19Speaker 01

  You come in, if you're doing a good job, you get re-elected. If not, sometimes you win, second time the other side cheats, then you come back in. Sometimes these types of things happen, right? But if you think for a second, China's not thinking long-term of coming in and stealing what we have and sending it back to them. Their loyalty is not to US. Their loyalty is back to China. They're not in America because they love America and they love the company they're working for. They're here to share the intel back with them. So my concern is, do you make a law in America that Chinese nationals cannot work for these AI companies?

• 32:56Speaker 04

  Well, is it the law that does it? Or is this the company itself that has to do this?

• 33:01Speaker 01

  But you can't wait for the company because the company is gonna want engineers. So part of this goes into, do you talk H1B visa? Do you go into, a lot of Indians are coming here? And JD Vance just kind of talked about this recently. I don't know if you saw that over the weekend. These are true, real concerns that people are thinking about.

• 33:17Speaker 04

  You know, one of the things you taught me, you said, listen, here's how I do business. You said, I hire slow, but I fire fast. So to me, I mean, would you break that down? There's a very strict vetting process if you're gonna let somebody into your world. Why don't American companies operate like that? Especially in the light of this China situation or whoever these safety researchers are. How many, you just read how many Chinese names that did this? I mean, I feel like the vetting process needs to be completely profound in this situation. How would you go about this as a publicly traded company, let's say? Or even private company?

• 33:53Speaker 01

  So remember, not everything is a deal. Not everything is about making deals. The president is a dealmaker, right? There are some things that there are no deals. It's not on the table. We're not even, you give me, like, today, this morning, I'm talking to one of our guys, Dan, 18 Delta, and we're driving, we're having a conversation about what happened in France. I said, let me ask you a question. If you had a choice between being a billionaire or having been in Delta Force for 10 years, which one do you choose? He says, it's not even close. I said, what do you mean? He says, oh, it's not even close. I would choose Delta.

• 34:27Speaker 04

  Really?

• 34:28Speaker 01

  Oh, he says, so you see, that's core values to this human being. I respect that because money can't buy the dream that he had in place. There are certain things in America that should not be for sale to anybody. And this is one of those things that shouldn't be for sale. For no matter how much money you want to give me, something shouldn't be for sale.

• 34:51Speaker 04

  It's like, how many social media platforms that are American-owned are based in China?

• 34:56Speaker 01

  None.

• 34:56Speaker 04

  None. But how many are here?

• 34:58Speaker 01

  Exactly.

• 34:59Speaker 04

  So, you know, it's kind of like the rules of the road. There's a binary situation going on here. How many American workers are working in China right now? Very few, probably. Very, very few. And if you don't think that they have. Some guy named Rick just working at Huawei.

• 35:11Speaker 01

  I want to see what Tom's gonna say about this. Tom, what would you say about this?

• 35:14Speaker 02

  So, take a look at this graphic. I don't know if the audience can see this. This is the self-reforcing visa wheel. Now, why does it happen? A H1B visa holder, your spouse is allowed to get an H4. If your spouse has an H4, then they could form an LLC and they form staffing firms. The staffing firms reach out and help other people get H1Bs. Why is this happening? Because we've created a market for it. Why do we create a market for it? Because, is California liberal or conservative? Huh? Liberal. The people that are running technology companies, are they largely liberal or conservative?

• 35:48Speaker 04

  Liberal.

• 35:48Speaker 02

  Liberal. They're in favor of bringing foreign workers over. And by the way, at the end of it, they may be liberal, but they sure as hell are capitalists. Because they want lower-cost engineers. And they bring over tons of lower-cost engineers through this, this process. This is except, Pat, this is the problem.

• 36:07Speaker 04

  But this is mostly from India, though, correct? More H1B, I think, of India.

• 36:11Speaker 02

  India is a lot of it. But you are also seeing it from mainland China and you're seeing it with spies. And China is even more sophisticated. They don't want to go through the more visible H1B. They talk our president into what? Allowing the students to come over to the college. Both have to stop.

• 36:29Speaker 01

  America cannot be for sale.

• 36:31Speaker 04

  Why would Trump want 600,000 students coming from China?

• 36:34Speaker 02

  College angle.

• 36:35Speaker 04

  What's the methodology with that?

• 36:36Speaker 01

  I'm not in the room. I didn't become a president. So let me just start with that preface. So whatever I say, he can do whatever he wants to do. He became the president. I'm not the president. If I became president, maybe I would have done it a different way. But again, I don't have access to all the information. You just have to realize, when you go to a negotiation. Not everything's on the table. Like, you asked me a question about relationship earlier, not, we're not gonna talk publicly. It's not on the table. We're not negotiating this. In, in certain things in life, we're dictators. As a parent, not everything's negotiable with the kids. There are moments where a parent must be a dictator.

• 37:16Speaker 01

  To allow these guys to come and steal our stuff and even think that they're gonna be loyal to us, it's a numbers game. Say you got 500 of them. How many Chinese nationals do you need to be 100% loyal to China to share our information with them? One out of 500. You don't need all of them, so it's like, well, it's not all of them. Well, it goes back to the same argument with, you know, not all Muslims are, you know, but hey, 1% is a lot. Half a percent is a lot.

• 37:40Speaker 03

  2 billion out of 2 billion.

• 37:41Speaker 01

  So to me, this is the part when sometimes Israel comes to your atom, and I have a problem with this. This is the part that for me, I'm not the guy that's part of, oh my God, everything, everything, something happens, it's Israel's fault. I'm not part of that camp. But I tell you, if you're in US and you serve the IDF more than you serve the US, I question your loyalty. You know, you know what's the only bottom two religions that join, don't join, uh, don't join the US Army? It's Jews and Muslims. Why not? What's your loyalty to? I, I'm, I'm a Christian, I serve the military here. So it concerns me when your loyalty is to a different country. I don't play those games.

• 38:20Speaker 03

  Right, sure.

• 38:21Speaker 01

  So, and I'm not, I'm not, I'm not the conspiracy jumping all this other stuff. I think there needs to be a certain level of, no, if you are this, you can't work here, we're not sharing this technology with you, at all. This is not a regular thing to collaborate with and cooperate with. Just because you wanna get these other three deals done, because everyone's gonna say it's impossible, but the ramifications of this deal, we're not gonna see for 20 years when we have three other presidents now. So I, I, I think, I think it's, um, like I said to you, I wanna preface everything, I'm not the president, I didn't win an election, I'm not in the room, I don't have access to all the information, I'm just giving you my opinion. This makes me uncomfortable. It's that simple for me. Makes me very uncomfortable.

• 39:01Speaker 03

  Did you hear what happened like last night?

• 39:03Speaker 01

  What's that?

• 39:04Speaker 03

  Uh, what's her name? Jin Fang Zhang? She was arrested at LAX. She's accused of working for the Chinese government, spying on Taiwan's son, his wife, his kids, taking pictures of his carpool. Why, why would you be sending that back to China? So they have leverage of, God forbid, something happens, we got your kid, we got your son, we got your wife. And it's at, remember during Biden, remember all those videos, Tommy? You actually sent me the video. All these Chinese nationals, bringing them into the border, standing there, none of them spoke English, but besides the terrorist guy.

• 39:32Speaker 04

  Dressed much differently than a lot of people that you could see were Mexican refugees, coming from northern provinces.

• 39:39Speaker 01

  You know this H1B visa thing that Tom just posted?

• 39:43Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 39:43Speaker 01

  You know 73% of the H1B visas are from India, 12% are from China.

• 39:47Speaker 03

  Right.

• 39:48Speaker 01

  You just have to also know when people are bringing these concerns.

• 39:51Speaker 04

  But let's be super clear, are we more worried about what's going on in India or with China?

• 39:56Speaker 01

  By the way, I'm worried about both.

• 39:58Speaker 04

  Sure, sure, but what's more of a worry? And I'll, I'll give you my answer, and it's China, it's not even a question.

• 40:04Speaker 01

  In the next five to 10 years?

• 40:05Speaker 04

  We're trying to compete with China with AI.

• 40:06Speaker 01

  In the next five to 10 years, it's China.

• 40:09Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 40:09Speaker 01

  Don't get it twisted. India is, doesn't think low of themselves, they think very highly of themselves.

• 40:14Speaker 04

  By the way, they should. They're, they're the most populated country in the world, they're the biggest democracy in the world, and we have a decent relationship with India.

• 40:21Speaker 01

  They should, but.

• 40:22Speaker 04

  We have rival, we are rivals with China.

• 40:24Speaker 01

  But what I'm saying to you.

• 40:24Speaker 04

  To me, it's different levels of, of, of competition.

• 40:27Speaker 01

  You cannot sit there and just think about crisis today. We built China into a behemoth because of what Nixon did. China's a nobody without what America did for them and opened it up. China's a nobody without what Japan told them on what to do with the banks and opening up all these banks instead of just having two national banks and you're not lending money. So, so to, to me, we built a monster, and now that monster who used to be, hi, how are you? Oh, very, huh, yes, oh yeah, we're so polite, behind closed doors, we're gonna eat these people alive, they don't even know we're gonna crush them. Only the paranoid survive, baby. And so, you know, my paranoia is to protect the greatest country in the world, and that's America, it's that simple.

• 41:08Speaker 03

  Bingo.

• 41:08Speaker 01

  And if you have those philosophies and ideology, that's what I'm gonna be doing. Doesn't mean I'm not in the room negotiating with you, doesn't mean I'm not in the room talking, but there are certain things that should not be for sale, this is one of them.

• 41:19Speaker 04

  Would you completely limit H1Bs from China?

• 41:22Speaker 03

  No, no, no, no, I'll tell you whatever, I'll tell you whatever, in one sentence.

• 41:24Speaker 04

  I'm gonna answer the question, and then I'm gonna come to you. Would you completely eliminate H1Bs from China?

• 41:29Speaker 01

  So, so to me, the way I see this, uh, uh, Adam, is say you take companies that have direct impact, or maybe they're partners of America, the US government, that have access to information. So let me explain. So let's just say Anthropic. Let's just say Palantir. Let's just say whoever these companies are, that are working as a partner to the US government that get access to certain information that is very highly intellectual property to us.

• 42:00Speaker 04

  Like a public-private partnership that goes pretty deep.

• 42:02Speaker 01

  If I have things like that, not one single Chinese national can be working on that project.

• 42:07Speaker 04

  I'm with you.

• 42:07Speaker 01

  Not one.

• 42:08Speaker 04

  I'm with you.

• 42:08Speaker 01

  If you're working at Nike and you're working at certain tiers, like, let me put it to you this way. There is, there's certain level of secret clearance in what you're doing. Dude, there is limits of where you're going with certain industry, I'm not even letting you compete with that.

• 42:22Speaker 04

  Is your concern, would you do that same thing with India? Or just with China?

• 42:26Speaker 01

  I would do that with them as well. Again, it.

• 42:29Speaker 04

  Would you do that with every country?

• 42:30Speaker 01

  By the way, do you know, do you know, do you know, do you know where Hindu lie, where Hindus lie in joining the US military? Can you do me a favor? Can you do me a favor and ask a simple question? What religions, or what's, what's the way to ask it? What, um, immigrants that came to America, or ask the question two different ways. What immigrants that come to America, joined the military the highest? You know, we did this research before, so I know you have it, Connor, I know you're in the back looking at this, you handed me this research, so it came from you. Join the US military, why is that important to me? Always pay attention when people say the following. I would never let my kids join the US military.

• 43:12Speaker 01

  When people say that, there are people that say this on social media, if you haven't heard them already. That is one of the scariest things somebody says who lives in America. You know what you're saying? What are you, what are you saying? Oh, I'm sorry, where does patriotism come from? What is the ultimate way of showing patriotism?

• 43:30Speaker 04

  Serving.

• 43:31Speaker 01

  Okay, so now, don't get me wrong. You can be a soldier in the military under a Democrat or Republican, or you can do all that other stuff and not be happy with the president, like you weren't happy with Bush, or some people were not happy with all this other stuff. But the question becomes, there needs to be patriotism. I watch, you know who's number one, by the way, that joins the military? I think it's Presbyterian, is it non-denominational Presbyterians? I think Catholics are number two. Do you find it? Can you zoom in, please? Yeah, watch this, this is it, zoom in a little bit, look at this. Protestants are number one. Biggest percentage of those that join the military. You know what's the lowest one after Jewish? Hindu. That's where I was getting to. You see the 0.04%? Jews are above them by 0.03% to 0.07. Look at where Muslims are at. 0.15.

• 44:16Speaker 01

  Then it's Buddhist. And, and guess where those four people are from? Not, so your loyalty isn't to America. Why don't you join the US Army, the US Navy, the US Marines? I have a problem with that. So I look at you and I say, you claim you're a patriot? I am. Tell your kid to join the military. No, I don't want to, then you're not a patriot. Then you're just here to take advantage of the opportunity. So when you're telling me, am I also concerned with Indians? I am, simply because of this data. Contribute to society. What, what, what do you think the parents are telling their kids? I, I, I have a, and by the way, keep, keep this in mind, I'm not telling you, well, they're like, wow, you know, you raise your kids the wrong way. We tell our kids to go be engineers, doctors, and this. I respect that.

• 45:00Speaker 01

  I think the style of Indian parenting, I've done a video on them to compliment them on how great they are with discipline and challenging them and pushing them. You know that one book called Tiger Mom or something like that that blew up so millions of copies?

• 45:11Speaker 04

  It's Chinese.

• 45:12Speaker 01

  It's like how hard mothers are, and shout out to Mario's mom, I think Mario needs to write a book about his mom, those stories would, it would blow up. It's a very different story, Lester Molester, but those are, those are different kind of things we're talking about. But, uh.

• 45:25Speaker 04

  But I would consider China, China an enemy or a competitor, I would not consider India a competitor. I would consider Israel an ally, so there's different levels to this thing.

• 45:35Speaker 01

  My level of paranoia for China is at a 90. My level of paranoia for India is at a 40.

• 45:41Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 45:42Speaker 01

  And my level of Israel not encouraging their folks to join the military here is at a 15. I judge you.

• 45:49Speaker 04

  I'm with you, exactly.

• 45:50Speaker 01

  Join the flipping military. Encourage your kids to join and serve in any possible way.

• 45:56Speaker 04

  It's more about just giving back to your country. It's not so much just joining the military. How do you, you can show your patriotism by not joining the military, that's not the only qualification of.

• 46:04Speaker 01

  But why don't you though? Why, why don't Hindus join the military at all?

• 46:07Speaker 04

  I don't know, I, I, I don't know the answer to that. I didn't, I didn't join the military, that doesn't make me less patriotic, I went to college, I played football.

• 46:14Speaker 01

  But, but I get it. But, I'm sorry, Adam. Jews go join the IDF, very high percentage.

• 46:20Speaker 03

  They have to. What do you mean they have to? Mandatory.

• 46:22Speaker 04

  Well, it's in, in Israel, it's mandatory.

• 46:24Speaker 01

  Why, why do they though?

• 46:26Speaker 04

  Ask, I don't know, I don't know, I didn't do that either, so ask that.

• 46:28Speaker 01

  It's called patriotism towards their country.

• 46:31Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 46:32Speaker 01

  And I have a problem with that. I have a problem with Hindus, Buddhists, and Jews who don't wanna join the US military. I'm sorry, I'm a freaking middle.

• 46:41Speaker 04

  But that doesn't make, that doesn't make people less patriotic, they don't sign the, there's two different things going on, I believe.

• 46:46Speaker 01

  Look, I'm, I'm not making friends today, trust me, again, by me saying this, I'm not making friends today. But I'm talking about with the audience watching this, I'm saying this to tell you. There are certain things I don't compromise. America has to realize, the future of war is gonna be very, very different. Very, very different. We don't just want our brilliant folks to go join Anthropic OpenAI. We also want our brilliant folks to go join the CIA. We want our brilliant folks to go join the FBI. We want our brilliant folks to go join the military. We need MI in the military, God knows, we need a lot of it right now, cuz shit's getting real. So this isn't a, a parent needs to be able to say, I got a smart kid, hey, let me tell you. You go in the military, go MI, move up, go CIA, go FBI, go do something that you're contributing to your country to protect, cuz the enemy's trying to take this away from us. So.

• 47:32Speaker 01

  I, I don't wanna stay on this story too long, I wanna go, it wasn't even one of my plans of going this direction, but I, I think, I think this can, by the way, and this is a good time for me to go and segue into the four types of voters.

• 47:42Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 47:42Speaker 01

  You know what the four types of voters I think there are? Here's the four types of voters, my opinion. So, and this goes to Republicans and Democrats. You know what one type of voter is? The one that you piss off and they choose to vote the other way. What percentage of Republicans you think are gonna vote Democrat?

• 47:59Speaker 03

  This, this.

• 47:59Speaker 04

  Very few.

• 48:00Speaker 01

  I know, but what do you think it is?

• 48:02Speaker 03

  3%.

• 48:03Speaker 01

  I think it's less than that, I think it's 1%. What percentage you think will vote independent or libertarian?

• 48:10Speaker 01

  What percentage of Republicans are going to go, I'm so sick of it, I'm so this.

• 48:13Speaker 02

  Are you saying a candidate, registered Republicans?

• 48:16Speaker 01

  Registered Republican.

• 48:17Speaker 02

  I think there's probably 5% and they were probably very recent Republicans that go back to the independent.

• 48:22Speaker 01

  So they were independents that came that will go back because they're pissed off with certain things. You know what's the second type of voter you have? The one that sits it out. He's like, you know what? I'm not even going to vote in Florida. Not excited about what you guys did. I'm not even going to vote in Ohio. I'm not even going to vote for this. And the president's even saying, I want you to go vote as if I'm on the ballot. It's not going to work. That's not how voting works. He said that in Ohio to help out with Vivek and saying, hey, go out there and vote as if it's me. They even brought John Gruden and John Gruden looked like he was ready to go back and coach.

• 48:49Speaker 03

  And he almost dropped a chubby kid that just did that way, which doesn't, oh, that's Vivek, which I'm saying doesn't help.

• 48:55Speaker 01

  Would be able to hang.

• 48:55Speaker 02

  I love Chucky.

• 48:57Speaker 01

  Yeah. And then you know what the third type of voter is? The type that's the down D, uh, what do you call it?

• 49:02Speaker 02

  Down the ballot.

• 49:02Speaker 01

  Down the ballot voter.

• 49:03Speaker 02

  Voting R or voting D down the ballot.

• 49:05Speaker 01

  Exactly. You know what the fourth type of voter is? The type of voter that wants to tell the world how excited they are to vote for you. How many do we have right now? Let me say that one more time. If you want to crush the enemy, you need the fourth type of voters to come out. And Republicans don't have that right now. Republicans don't have that level of.

• 49:25Speaker 02

  I agree with you.

• 49:26Speaker 01

  Sell me the dream on who? Give me a candidate right now. The Republicans are excited about going out and telling the world about it. Go ahead, show me how they're door knocking.

• 49:32Speaker 03

  None.

• 49:33Speaker 01

  Show me how they're going campaigning.

• 49:34Speaker 02

  They had that in 2024 when Trump was making a comeback. Right now that is, yeah, there's definitely a lack of energy in the base. I, in my opinion, and I'll, and I'll be to say it in 10 seconds. I'm energetic about stopping the left. That's what gets me fired up. You might have a different, uh, a different philosophy. I'm not waking up being like, let's go, America. I'm like, the left is coming. This Islamist Marxist ridiculous, uh, red, green alliance. That needs to be stopped. That's what galvanizes me.

• 50:02Speaker 03

  But that, but you're, but you're not the.

• 50:04Speaker 01

  That's why we do the podcast. That's why we started this company. We started this company because we truly believe there's a real enemy, a long term, that's trying to confuse our kids.

• 50:12Speaker 02

  And as someone that used to be a Democrat, I look at that and say, that is no longer the Democratic Party. And that needs to be stopped.

• 50:16Speaker 01

  But if I was running the Republican Party, if I was running the Democratic Party, that's not enough.

• 50:22Speaker 02

  Exactly.

• 50:23Speaker 01

  They tried to run against Trump being a bad man and they lost to him twice. Once with Clinton, the other time with Kamala. And so they lost. Why? You have to be for something where you get the base excited. They got people pissed off. You need more than just being pissed off.

• 50:39Speaker 02

  Because you need product, you need candidates that are products that someone's excited about. So Adam, I can have a terrible headache, but am I going to take Tylenol or I'm going to take Advil? There's a brand relationship I have and there's an enthusiasm, oh my God, you have Tylenol, thank you so much. And I want it. Now let's blow that up on an emotional level with your economy, your country, all the things we talk about. And guess what? There's no product on the shelf. Are, are, are people excited about Paxton? No. Are people really excited in Ohio about Vivek? No. You know, and we like Vivek, but they're the, the primary system is supposed to put great products out there. But instead it becomes a manipulated system that gives entitlement and flows people in based on connection

• 51:22Speaker 02

  to the, uh, the mega donors and the PACs. It's because they want to get their stuff done. And so we don't have product right now. I think it's that simple. We don't have exciting product to go against an enemy that is so clear. Socialism and all this.

• 51:35Speaker 01

  Who's it on though? Who's it on?

• 51:36Speaker 02

  That is on the party leadership.

• 51:39Speaker 01

  Two people, Tom. Who's it on? My opinion.

• 51:41Speaker 03

  That the Republicans don't have a, a, a, a person to lead?

• 51:45Speaker 01

  Who's it on?

• 51:46Speaker 02

  It's on Donald Trump.

• 51:47Speaker 01

  Of course. And then the other part is who?

• 51:49Speaker 02

  Whoever the RNC is, exactly.

• 51:51Speaker 01

  That's who it's on. Just so you know, part of the.

• 51:52Speaker 02

  Who's running the RNC right now, by the way?

• 51:54Speaker 01

  The fact that you're asking is an issue.

• 51:57Speaker 02

  Cause it was Laura Trump for a minute and it was Romney's girl for a minute. Who is it now?

• 52:01Speaker 01

  That you're asking.

• 52:02Speaker 02

  We pulled that up. Remember when Vivek in Miami called her out? Come out on stage.

• 52:06Speaker 03

  Rhonda.

• 52:07Speaker 02

  Rhonda McDaniel or whatever.

• 52:08Speaker 03

  Help me, Rhonda.

• 52:09Speaker 01

  Rhonda, Rhonda. Was it Rhonda or Rana?

• 52:13Speaker 02

  Rana, yeah. Ronna McDaniel.

• 52:14Speaker 01

  Ronna McDaniel, not he.

• 52:16Speaker 02

  But that was four years ago. Who is it now?

• 52:17Speaker 01

  By the way, go back to that Kalshi, please. Go back to that Kalshi.

• 52:20Speaker 02

  But that's the point.

• 52:20Speaker 01

  Okay, look at this. Look at this, Ohio governor winner. Look, Amy Acton's now at 65. Vivek is officially at 35. Okay? And this is after Trump showing up to help out, after Trump showing up to help out. And then go to the Texas senate winner. Look at this one here. Talarico up to 65. Kalshi, Paxton, 35. And look how much been in, uh, uh, bet here. 18.9 million dollars. What's the other one? 19 million bucks. What's the other one? $2 million. So you got, you got these two big races that they're looking at right now with Kalshi.

• 52:53Speaker 02

  But is Kalshi taking polling odds and then using that to manufacture their own numbers? Cause I don't trust the actual polling. Kalshi doesn't manufacture anything. These are people like you and me that say, you know what? It may only be 5% in the polls, but I think this one's going to win. So they're doing it based on what people are thinking?

• 53:09Speaker 01

  My trust today is more on Kalshi than all the other polls that you read about by CNN and Fox and all these.

• 53:16Speaker 02

  I remember what I used to say about Vegas. I, I, I trust Vegas more than I trust polls.

• 53:19Speaker 01

  Well, that's then that's valid. This is Vegas. People are telling you what they think is going to be happening and you ought to pay attention to it. I'm not telling you this is the all, you know, you know, but you have to pay attention to what's going on with this. But you need excitement. Right now there's not excitement and Trump needs to be thinking about replacement. He needs to be thinking about replacement. I don't know how much of that will take place. Trump's personality is the type that to transition to the next, whoever takes that next has to edify him nonstop. And unfortunately, what eventually would ends up happening to, you know, create your own identity. Some people have to burn a bridge with Trump.

• 53:58Speaker 02

  Absolutely.

• 53:59Speaker 01

  And when you do that, you know what's going to happen? It's going to be catastrophic for them. He's going to go after them in a hardcore way rather than realizing this is how the game works. And I, I, it's going to be challenging. It's going to be challenging with them.

• 54:12Speaker 02

  What, what percentage is this actually? Hey, it's just the midterms every four years, you know, they, they change powers, the balance of power. How much is actually the economy, things affecting average people?

• 54:23Speaker 01

  FYI, and I'm going to go to the next story. If they address the Iran thing, if what Besen is saying right now, okay, let me just go to that story. If what Besen is saying right now, that the first time, this is the first time in history, Besen says Iran has zero oil revenue as tanker loading collapses. Okay? And this is coming from who? Tyler Durden from, uh, you know, Fight the Club. It's so funny. We know who the guy's behind the Zero Hedge. That's a great job, those guys, they're phenomenal. Yeah. So this is the first time, uh, Besen on a new episode of Axios Show, if you want to pull this up, by the way,

• 55:05Speaker 01

  they are isolating them economically like this never before. Is this it? Please play the clip. Go for it. Watch this. Do you have it or no? Oh, he can stand like that for a long time. That's impressive. I'll just read what he says. They are isolating them economically like this never before. You know, right now the score barrels out of the straight US about 11, 1.1 billion. Iran, zero. Go for it.

• 55:32Speaker 09

  Isolating them economically like this never happened before. You know, right now the score turns of barrels out of the straight. US about 1.1 billion Iran zero. For the first time in history, they, since they started pumping oil, they will have no oil on the water this week. They will have no revenues.

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• 57:08Speaker 01

  Okay, so when you, when you see this and, and you're asking a question of what could happen? If they squ- if all of a sudden we wake up, Iran has agreed, regime change, let's just say that happens and US is building a base at Karg Island. Hypothetically, I'm just-

• 57:23Speaker 04

  In the next thirty days?

• 57:24Speaker 01

  If I'm saying in the next announcement, not that they're gonna build it like, they announced they're building a military base in Poland, but it's gonna take till twenty thirty to build. Well, that's a major statement you're making against who? Russia.

• 57:37Speaker 04

  Yep.

• 57:37Speaker 01

  And you're making for who? Ukraine, the EU, NATO, all that, right? Okay. If all of a sudden we get an announcement that US has taken over Karg Island, Iran has agreed to not enrich uranium, Iran's agreed to not have any nuclear weapons, and XYZ, if that announcement is made, gas prices drop, economy skyrockets, interest rates come down from seven and a half percent today to five point seven five, ninety days before election time, now you're talking a different story.

• 58:07Speaker 04

  You're talking twenty twenty-eight?

• 58:08Speaker 01

  I'm going twenty-eight, November.

• 58:09Speaker 04

  Yeah, because, I mean, everything's-

• 58:11Speaker 01

  Midterm is, midterm is-

• 58:12Speaker 04

  We're thirty days out.

• 58:13Speaker 01

  Look, I mean, Charles Barkley was the other day on, on Chris Cuomo, I don't know if you have this clip or not, and he says, you know, a lot of people are thinking blue and Democrats are gonna do this, I don't know about that. I don't know, he called that Kamala, he called that everybody, I don't know who-

• 58:24Speaker 04

  They saying some stupid-

• 58:25Speaker 01

  Yeah, watch this, go ahead.

• 58:27Speaker 10

  Listen, I'm an independent who, who's voted Democratic most of the time. You think that I'm gonna get on TV and kill my credibility saying every Democratic, like some of these people out here talking about, no ICE, no prison, so, using words like socialism, like, no, I don't believe in that. Wait, wait, no, no cops? I think that's some of the stupidest shit I've ever heard.

• 58:54Speaker 04

  That's true.

• 58:55Speaker 10

  Well, what, we don't, we, what are, what are we gonna do without cops? What are we gonna do without prisons? Like, I've seen some of these politicians, I like, this is the stupidest shit ever. And a lot of, most of, most of them, well, let me take, all of them have been Democrats. I think that's some of the stupidest shit I ever heard. Now, ICE has to do a much better job, much better job. We need that, we need a-

• 59:19Speaker 01

  You can pause it right now. So, sensible guys like Bill Maher, okay? Barkley, some of these other guys are calling out the BS that's happening on that side. Midterms, whatever happens with midterms, it's not looking good for Republicans as of right now. Even with Trump going and campaigning, okay, even with Trump going and helping you out. But I will tell you, going into twenty-eight, if things all of a sudden change, Bessend closes, politics is like this, ready?

• 59:46Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah.

• 59:47Speaker 01

  Boom. They turn on like this, like this, switch.

• 59:51Speaker 04

  If you would've told me that in twenty twenty-two, twenty twenty-three, Trump was gonna basically take over the party again, I'd say, no way. Twenty twenty-four, MAGA, crown, boom, things can happen real quickly.

• 1:00:02Speaker 01

  Yeah, well, you know, um, that, that's, that's the part with this game we're in. This is a very, very different game that we're talking about.

• 1:00:09Speaker 04

  What do you think of Barkley's, uh, political chances?

• 1:00:13Speaker 01

  Of doing something?

• 1:00:13Speaker 04

  Yeah, doing something.

• 1:00:14Speaker 01

  I think he would be very entertaining, but I don't think he has any interest.

• 1:00:18Speaker 04

  Really?

• 1:00:18Speaker 01

  You, you think Barkley running? I think he would be very entertaining.

• 1:00:21Speaker 04

  I think, I think he's kinda over basketball at this point, just like Stephen A., I think he has-

• 1:00:26Speaker 01

  How old is Barkley? Is he sixty-three? Can you type in how old Barkley is? Charles Barkley, yeah, there's gonna be some wild cards like that that could run. How old is Barkley? Sixty? Age, uh, right, they go a little bit lower, right there to the bottom, sixty-three, yeah, he's sixty-three years old. February twentieth. So he's an Aquarius, interesting. Um, yeah, I mean, and you were gonna say something-

• 1:00:45Speaker 03

  As of next month, it's less than two years, correct? Two years left-

• 1:00:50Speaker 01

  Next month is less than two years.

• 1:00:51Speaker 03

  They have to do something and it has to happen fast, because that two years is gonna go like this, okay? And Adam, the average American doesn't have the attitude of ours of, listen, regardless of the party, the Dems are just the enemy and we have to vote, no, they need somebody to freaking make them move, get me freaking, like, like you said, get excited, because guess what the Democrats have? They got, right now, the, the socialist thing is on fire. The Mayor Mamdani is the freaking guy-

• 1:01:18Speaker 04

  Yeah, then our country's gonna be on fire.

• 1:01:20Speaker 03

  But, but hear me out, but the average voter, Adam, doesn't think like us, because we know the enemy, because we sit here twice a week and we know, and we see all the numbers, we see all the stats, you gotta move them, and JD Vance, it's looking like he's gonna be the guy-

• 1:01:31Speaker 04

  He ain't the guy.

• 1:01:32Speaker 03

  And no, I, I'll, I'll bet, listen, we could do a friendly bet, JD Vance is gonna be the guy, Marco Rubio has said he's not gonna do it, but hear me out, but, but let me finish my, my point. And if you see, Adam, I, I'm remembering all the moments where he's in those meetings, especially about Iran, and he was quietly distancing himself, where the president was saying about JD Vance, he was unenthusiastic about this war, which gives JD Vance, what he was talking about, the moment to be like, hey, listen, I love the president, but I was the guy in these meetings saying, no, no, no, because at the end of the day, Adam, the average American isn't thinking about the enemy, which we are-

• 1:02:05Speaker 04

  So you think-

• 1:02:05Speaker 03

  You know what they're thinking of? Hold, let me finish. They're thinking of a war that they're, they're feeling that they shouldn't have started, they can't pay for gas, they can't pay for groceries, and they're like, what the hell is going on? So you just want my blind loyalty because of the enemy, but the enemy's pitch now, Adam, to all these young voters is this, we'll give you all the free stuff, and whoever's attached to Trump is still evil, because he's Hitler and his people are all little Hitlers.

• 1:02:27Speaker 04

  Do, do you think, Vinny, that if gas prices were normal again, let's say down to three bucks? Let's just say the average American would even think twice about Iran? If gas prices were normal, would the average American even think about Iran?

• 1:02:41Speaker 03

  Absolutely not.

• 1:02:42Speaker 04

  I agree.

• 1:02:42Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:02:43Speaker 04

  So it just has to do with gas prices. So it just goes to show you, the Iran war is absolutely irrelevant to America.

• 1:02:48Speaker 03

  But, but-

• 1:02:49Speaker 04

  It's not costing the American taxpayer-

• 1:02:51Speaker 01

  What, what are you saying?

• 1:02:52Speaker 03

  No, the war started, the war made the gas-

• 1:02:54Speaker 04

  What I'm saying is the average person only cares about gas prices.

• 1:02:56Speaker 01

  But, but you're saying, you're saying like, uh, you know, you think anybody really cares about eating the cheesecake? All they care about is the fact that their blood pressure is so high because of sugar? Yeah, but it's because of the cheesecake. So, yes, they care about that we're in war, because the war is the reason why this is taking place.

• 1:03:13Speaker 04

  Well, we're not really, we're, we're, we're not on a blockade, we're not actually even in, in a kinetic war or anything like that.

• 1:03:18Speaker 03

  Well, Iran's, well, why is, why are gas prices, why is the trade of war moving?

• 1:03:21Speaker 01

  You're saying they only care about gas prices, that is-

• 1:03:24Speaker 04

  I'm saying that's the only thing that's actually affecting Americans' lives at this point.

• 1:03:27Speaker 01

  Consequences of the war-

• 1:03:28Speaker 04

  If you don't turn on the news-

• 1:03:29Speaker 01

  We started with Iran, yes. But it's the-

• 1:03:32Speaker 04

  In part.

• 1:03:33Speaker 01

  It, it is though, it, it is a part of, no, it is-

• 1:03:36Speaker 04

  Like, if you don't turn on the news-

• 1:03:37Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:03:38Speaker 04

  And you just live your life, and, and gas prices were normal, you would never even think about Iran.

• 1:03:43Speaker 01

  That's even worse, that's even worse.

• 1:03:44Speaker 04

  What do you mean?

• 1:03:45Speaker 01

  That's even worse, because you don't have, uh, people are not even tracking what's going on, because you're losing-

• 1:03:51Speaker 04

  You think the average American respectfully could pick Iran out on a map? Can pick any other country in the world out on a map? The average American cares about their life, their family-

• 1:04:00Speaker 01

  The average American is following the Iran war?

• 1:04:01Speaker 04

  No, I don't.

• 1:04:02Speaker 01

  You don't think-

• 1:04:02Speaker 04

  Really? The average American?

• 1:04:04Speaker 01

  You don't think the average American watched the little-

• 1:04:06Speaker 04

  If you pulled the average American, say, what's the capital of Iran? What percentage would actually get it right? The average American?

• 1:04:11Speaker 01

  I don't, I don't think if I'm asking a question like that-

• 1:04:13Speaker 04

  I just think the average American is focused on their own lives, not the Middle East.

• 1:04:16Speaker 01

  American links the war to gas prices being high.

• 1:04:19Speaker 04

  Well, of course, because gas prices are high.

• 1:04:21Speaker 01

  Simple.

• 1:04:21Speaker 03

  And food, because the gas has to get here.

• 1:04:24Speaker 04

  Well, gas prices, inflation were up during Biden, I mean, Tom did an amazing breakdown, what, like, you said, what, what was your assessment of what percentage these gas prices are actually have to do with trailing inflation versus the Hormuz situation?

• 1:04:36Speaker 02

  Well, Pat and I both talked about refineries in the last couple of weeks, he, he just did a, a, a great expose on it. Refineries is forty to forty-five percent of the increase in the price of gas. The fifty-five, sixty percent is that barrel of oil. So it's real, and to America, they don't know about the refineries, that's why we're doing these things, and we put them up there to tell people about it. The average American thinks about that barrel of oil correctly is making their life hell, and if they're a trucker, if they're a mom, if they have to, if they have to commute a long way to work, that's, that's not doing it, and they're connecting it to-

• 1:05:11Speaker 04

  You think it's making their life hell?

• 1:05:13Speaker 01

  Let me show you this, let me show you what just happened right now, okay? Report just came in from US, Yahoo Finance. US mortgage applications have fallen to their lowest since nineteen ninety-five.

• 1:05:24Speaker 04

  Jeez.

• 1:05:24Speaker 01

  Not two thousand eight, after the mortgage crisis.

• 1:05:27Speaker 03

  Thirty, some, thirty-one years?

• 1:05:28Speaker 01

  Nineteen ninety-five, thirty-one years ago. What happened in nineteen ninety-five to drop to the lowest there? You know, you know how things are right now for regular mortgage loan officers? Not guys doing loans above a million dollars, that business is here, it's not, they're not being impacted. But to the guys that are doing four hundred thousand dollar loans, three hundred thousand dollar loans, seven hundred thousand dollar loans, how do you think those guys are doing right now? It's a very different game. Why, why are, why is mortgages the lowest since nineteen ninety-five? Why? By the way, it's a buyer's market.

• 1:05:56Speaker 04

  But if you have cash.

• 1:05:57Speaker 01

  It is a buyer's market. Yeah, it's definitely a buyer's market today, because people, it's not like it's, I, if I'm a buyer right now, I would be making ten aggressive offers on properties that I want and let them say no. I'll be making ten aggressive offers right now, let the, let the seller say no.

• 1:06:12Speaker 04

  Actually, actually, I like that idea.

• 1:06:14Speaker 01

  What do you mean?

• 1:06:16Speaker 04

  No, I just like that idea.

• 1:06:16Speaker 01

  No, I'm, that's exactly what I would do today, because how many people can afford a seven and a half percent interest?

• 1:06:21Speaker 04

  No, not that many.

• 1:06:22Speaker 01

  What do you think rates are gonna be in three years, Tom?

• 1:06:25Speaker 02

  Three years, I think rates, so that, so one year after the new president?

• 1:06:29Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:06:30Speaker 02

  One year after the new president, I think rates might get down to four point nine nine nine.

• 1:06:35Speaker 01

  Okay, at four point nine nine nine versus seven and a half, let's just say five percent, right? So, okay, you refi in three years, and when that happens, what do you think property value is gonna do? It's gonna spike.

• 1:06:47Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:06:47Speaker 01

  Okay, because traffic's gonna be there, so you're gonna have more bids, like the auction, you have more people bidding for a product that goes up. You know, they always say, like, you know my Wayne Gretzky card that is sold for two point two million? You know why it sold for two point two million? Because it was two millionaires that wanted it. If those two millionaires didn't want it, it would have sold for eight hundred thousand dollars. So that's just because of two crazy guys that wanted that card.

• 1:07:09Speaker 02

  The market maker.

• 1:07:10Speaker 01

  The market maker, so right now, if a person's wanting to buy, I would go to my realtor and I would go make ten offers right now, super low, but I make ten offers right now of properties that I like, let them say no.

• 1:07:22Speaker 03

  How low, how low if it's a seven hundred thousand dollar house, Pat?

• 1:07:25Speaker 01

  Um, okay, give me your price point.

• 1:07:27Speaker 03

  Ready for this? I have, I, I, I, right now, I know for a fact on Zillow, I saw a seven hundred thousand dollar house, which I was gonna talk to Tom about, it's ridiculous, it's sick, it's, it's like, it's like three bedroom, four bath, whatever, like-

• 1:07:39Speaker 01

  I would have my realtor pull up comps for what it sold for last, uh, last twelve months.

• 1:07:45Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 1:07:45Speaker 01

  Pull up comps, and I'll let you say the comps say six sixty, comparables are at six sixty, I'm making a five ninety-five offer. Say no.

• 1:07:54Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:07:55Speaker 01

  Go ahead, say no.

• 1:07:56Speaker 02

  You have the opportunity to say no.

• 1:07:58Speaker 01

  Yeah, go say no.

• 1:07:59Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:07:59Speaker 01

  All right, no problem. You know, all you have to say is yes or no.

• 1:08:03Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:08:04Speaker 01

  And then let them decide what they want to do. But I would be making aggressive offer like this. The moment it drops traffic with the applications go back up. This is the time to be a little bit aggressive with your offers. Don't be surprised. Trust me, I've made some offers where a person said yes, I'm like, shit, I should have gone a little bit lower.

• 1:08:21Speaker 02

  And when they say yes, what happens?

• 1:08:22Speaker 01

  Then play ball. Go back and forth, play ball. Obviously, don't do it if you can't afford to buy the product.

• 1:08:29Speaker 02

  I'm just doing this for fun, man.

• 1:08:29Speaker 01

  Only do it.

• 1:08:30Speaker 02

  I'm having a good time.

• 1:08:31Speaker 01

  Can you imagine?

• 1:08:31Speaker 02

  Really bored.

• 1:08:32Speaker 01

  I made a $2.2 million offer on three and they said, yes, I can't afford the $25,000.

• 1:08:36Speaker 02

  Don't do it. Congratulations, you're being sued.

• 1:08:42Speaker 01

  Yeah, don't do that if you don't have that going on. All right, let's get to the next story. And this kind of goes with oil. Tom, G7 nations will release 100 million barrels of oil and diesel fuel after prices soar. This is an AP story that just came out, so let me go to this. The group of seven wealthy democracies said Friday they plan to release 100 million barrels of oil and fuel products in the coming weeks. Starting with substantial amounts of diesel. After the fuel hit record high prices, President Trump said the diesel release would happen immediately. Echoing the G7 promise of a front load substantial release with 20 days and the rest over four months. Tom, what does this mean?

• 1:09:20Speaker 02

  Well, that's not a lot of oil, but it's enough to make a difference.

• 1:09:24Speaker 01

  For how long?

• 1:09:25Speaker 02

  Well, okay, watch this. How many barrels of oil does the United States consume a day?

• 1:09:32Speaker 01

  Oh, man. Consume a day?

• 1:09:35Speaker 02

  What is it? I believe it's 18 to 21 million, depending on whether it's winter or not. 20 million barrels a day.

• 1:09:41Speaker 01

  We love oil. Nothing.

• 1:09:42Speaker 02

  Correct. Now then. So this is getting us through a week, maybe? But the US, but the US creates about, you know, we drill and we generate. I think it's 14 to 16, depending on the season and stuff like that. So this will make a little bit of dent in the cost of diesel, but not a big dent. And if you guys could show the AAA, the AAA price of diesel and then go compare it to the state of California. Just go AAA gas and price of diesel and then select California. Those are the rankings for podcast, okay. Yeah. So, yep, AAA, so what's, what's happening? We'll show you what's going on. And this is also California.

• 1:10:26Speaker 02

  Scroll down on the bottom and select California and select diesel, right there. Go to California and then right, select diesel on the right, on the right, on the right, on the right. There you go. Uh. Current average, six dollars. Compared California, right there, location, national, right there, right there, red, where it says national. Okay. There you go. There we go. Ladies and gentlemen, it's currently 8:35, 6:32, national. Um, that's bad. And so what is this going to mean? It's a start, Pat. It's going to help a little bit of relief.

• 1:11:03Speaker 02

  But everything that I've read, it's, it's maybe, it's maybe a 22 cent change for maybe five weeks. Because 100 million barrels. Well, 100 million barrels we just saw is not, is, is meaningful.

• 1:11:20Speaker 01

  Is this just a publicity stunt, like a story you need for five weeks? By the way, you better have some news and something you do the next five weeks or else it's a waste.

• 1:11:28Speaker 02

  I think it shows that you're doing something and you're getting people's attention. But the, the number of barrels that they talk about when you compare the amount that we use on a daily basis. You know, I'm seeing maybe 22 cents in maybe five weeks.

• 1:11:44Speaker 01

  Yeah, so, so what's the point?

• 1:11:47Speaker 02

  The point.

• 1:11:47Speaker 01

  So there's a few ways.

• 1:11:49Speaker 02

  It's more PR than anything.

• 1:11:50Speaker 01

  One is a PR stunt, publicity stunt. The other part that I see is maybe you have something going on next four to five weeks that nobody else knows about.

• 1:11:56Speaker 02

  Exactly.

• 1:11:57Speaker 01

  Maybe you do, maybe we're just oblivious. Maybe we're just, you know, people that are watching saying there's nothing here, but maybe there is. And what could that be, Tom?

• 1:12:04Speaker 02

  I, I, I don't know, because what the problem that we have in the United States is the refineries. We, we, even if we have enough oil and we can get the oil down, you know, we're still low on refineries. Because Calif- frickin' Fornia, right here, they caused Valero to close at Benicia and they closed Phillips 66 to close. And then in Texas, a refinery closed that had been open for 50 years and it was just too expensive to do retrofitting. And so I'm gonna look up here, date of last refinery built in the United States. I'm gonna tell you for, I believe it's 50 years, believe it or not. And that's what we need. So could we get a lot of supply in? Yeah.

• 1:12:46Speaker 02

  Maybe there's something that's gonna happen, you know, in terms of, uh. A small Texas refinery, February 2022, but the last significant major build was the mainstream facility in Garyville, Louisiana, permitted in 1977. That was our last giant refinery built in the United States. What's the biz doc solution to this? Well, if the president has got a lot more supply or he's got a way to get the price of oil down. That'll affect the 60% of the price of diesel and gasoline that is based on the oil. So if he's got a way to do that, Pat, and he's got something coming, then we're gonna get some relief that way. But we also need, ma'am, we need refinery capacity.

• 1:13:30Speaker 01

  Scale though, you need scale with this because the Aramco CEO says that because of the Strait of Hormuz and what happened, the Middle East conflicts contributed to, you know how many barrels of lost export? Do you know how many barrels of lost export? Because the.

• 1:13:46Speaker 02

  Probably billions.

• 1:13:46Speaker 01

  3 billion barrels of lost export.

• 1:13:48Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:13:49Speaker 01

  While global stockpiles have already been drawn down substantially. So 100 million is like a sneeze.

• 1:13:54Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:13:55Speaker 01

  It's like a sneeze though.

• 1:13:56Speaker 02

  Versus months and months.

• 1:13:57Speaker 01

  It maybe is a good story to tell, but you better have something in the pipeline that we don't know about. I'm just saying, or else.

• 1:14:03Speaker 02

  Pipeline is a very apropos word for this.

• 1:14:05Speaker 01

  You better have something in the pipe, because everything, everything you're doing, you know, you know what I said the other day is. Uh, a, a, a previous company I was a part of, World Financial, Transamerica, a guy told me something one time. I wrote a article, I wrote a paper one time to the company with 16 page article on nine things the company should consider doing. So this one got, comes up to me, says, Pat, you share too many ideas with the home office. I said, what do you mean? He says, nobody shares as many ideas as you do with the home office. Here's my suggestion to you. I said, what's that? Instead of having nine requests, choose out of the nine, which one you like the most and go with that.

• 1:14:40Speaker 02

  Go with one.

• 1:14:41Speaker 01

  Okay, go with one.

• 1:14:42Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:14:42Speaker 01

  And then let everybody else say the other eight, okay? You just say the one. And I said, very interesting. So that approach changed, we got better results. What's the point? Do you remember day one, executive orders? How many things Trump fixed just in day one? On stage when we were there. We were there. How many things he fixed on day one? It was like a little too much, we don't even remember. That's what you just said is the problem. Yeah. So the amount of great he did on day one, it was, it was, it needed to be sprinkled. Instead of. Calendar. Could have done salt bed. Every 90 days, drop it. Every 90 days, drop it. So the American people, Republicans have totally forgotten what this guy did on day one. It's almost like we forgot that we shut down the 20 million percent of people that came.

• 1:15:25Speaker 01

  Chris Cuomo had a, Chris Cuomo had a guest that got on and you know what the guest says to Cuomo? I don't know if you guys have this or not. Says, look, I'm a Democratic voter and I didn't like Trump, but I gotta tell you, I like what he's doing. I thought my 401K was gonna drop, my 401K is up. I thought the world, I thought this, I thought that. And, and Cuomo's just kind of listening to him. I don't know if you have this clip or not. Yeah, he couldn't. I have it somewhere here saved, if you can't find, that's not it. But it's a lady, it's a lady that calls in and he says, good for you on, on what it says. Let me just see if I have it here or not. But so part of it is. You're saying there was evidence of a reasonable Democrat. Yeah, here it is, I found it, I found it. I'll send it to you, you're not gonna find it. It's very hard to find this one, but I'll find it. I got it, I, I, I want the audience to see this.

• 1:16:06Speaker 01

  So there are some people that are seeing what changed, like these are the voters that are like, hey, my 401K is up. Did you see what Scott Galloway said? When president got elected, I sold everything I had. What a horrible decision. And then you know what he said? By the way, good for him for being honest and telling the audience. Honestly stupid in that decision, but okay. Whatever you want, you know what he said? He came back and he bought everything 20% more expensive. Yeah, it's a dumb decision. I understand. I respect the guy, but it's a dumb decision. It's a dumb decision. A lot of people are part of that camp. This lady's the complete opposite. I just sent it, I want you to watch this. Very simple, nothing crazy, listen to this.

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• 1:17:55Speaker 12

  And then I want to tell you that I'm not too proud to say that I am wrong about Trump. I'm a proud Democrat and he's done a lot of things, immigration. I'm happy about what's happening with immigration. Um, I thought the stock market would tank and um, I'm pretty happy with my 401k. There's a few things that I just thought things would go wrong and I'm very happy.

• 1:18:23Speaker 01

  Good for you.

• 1:18:23Speaker 03

  Well, that is big of you to say. It'll probably lose you some friends in this polarized.

• 1:18:28Speaker 01

  So, so what's, what's, but you know what the point is right there? A lot of people feel that way.

• 1:18:34Speaker 03

  Yeah, they should.

• 1:18:34Speaker 01

  Like my 401ks, so, but I think Trump's PR team, and this is the greatest PR team you've ever seen with a president. They, they need to kind of say, maybe we want too much too fast. And maybe you're spoilt like, remember that one commercial that Michael did? It's one of the greatest commercials ever.

• 1:18:54Speaker 03

  Gymnasium with the bird?

• 1:18:56Speaker 01

  Um, now I have to find this for you. It's a Jordan commercial. I have to find this commercial for you. It's maybe I made you believe. Just type in, maybe I made you believe and then type in Jordan. Commercial. Maybe I made you believe and then type in Jordan commercial. Maybe I made, that's the one. It's my fault. That's the one. Can you go to that one?

• 1:19:15Speaker 03

  Can we play that?

• 1:19:15Speaker 01

  Pause it. Yeah, for sure. Watch this. And go to the beginning. It's because it's going, pause it. Go to the beginning and then put the audio. Go for it. Maybe it's my fault. Maybe I led you to believe it was easy when it wasn't. Maybe I made you think my highlights started at the free throw line and not in the gym. Maybe I made you think that every shot I took was a game winner. That my game was built on flash and not fire. Maybe it's my fault that you didn't see that failure gave me strength. That my pain was my motivation. The blood. We have to re-remind Americans.

• 1:19:57Speaker 01

  Maybe I led you to believe that basketball was a God-given gift and not something I worked for.

• 1:20:02Speaker 03

  Wow.

• 1:20:03Speaker 01

  Every single day of my life. Or maybe you're just. Maybe I destroyed the game. Or maybe. Or maybe. You're just making excuses.

• 1:20:16Speaker 03

  Ooh.

• 1:20:17Speaker 01

  Don't you freaking love this?

• 1:20:21Speaker 03

  Somebody sent it to Nike.

• 1:20:22Speaker 01

  To me, I think they need to, well, hopefully we sold a few shoes for them. But so, so this commercial, the American people forgot. And they forgot that he got shot. They forgot that they played games with him. They forgot how hard it was to come back. They forgot that they tried to put him in prison. They need to tell that story.

• 1:20:43Speaker 03

  Great point.

• 1:20:43Speaker 01

  They're not telling that we forgot what they did to this guy. Egon Karol, hey, do you want to go shopping? It's on me. You want to go to Monaco? You want to go to Canada? You want to go to France? We've, the 450 million dollars. Oh, Mar-a-Lago is only worth 18 million dollars. Dude, we forgot.

• 1:21:01Speaker 03

  Yeah. How easily.

• 1:21:03Speaker 01

  So, and, and so they need to make that commercial and just say, it's, by the way, if you see this commercial here soon. Maybe I made you believe.

• 1:21:09Speaker 03

  Maybe. This was easy.

• 1:21:11Speaker 01

  There needs to be a commercial like that made. Anyways, all right, let's go to the next story. Next story I want to get to is Russia. Story comes out of nowhere. It's like, wait, what, what did you just say? So China did this six years ago on Wuhan lab and it was like from bats, right? What was it?

• 1:21:23Speaker 03

  Pangolin had sex with a bat in a wet market.

• 1:21:26Speaker 01

  It's a wet market is what it was. And now Russia comes out and the story's pretty crazy. Um, what page is this one at? I'm trying to find this page. Da, da, da, da, da. Okay, there it is. Researcher at Russia plague laboratory dies of an unknown infection. Wait, what?

• 1:21:47Speaker 03

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:21:47Speaker 01

  Yes. A researcher in Russia dies. Her name, she's 28-year-old lab worker at Russia's Irkutz Anti-Plague Institute died on October 2nd after developing severe pneumonia. There are reports that she may have been exposed after breaking a test tube containing plague bacteria, but that has not been officially confirmed. That's from the Moscow Times. Authorities placed nearly 300 people who had contact with her under medical observation, including more than 100 reportedly monitored in hospitals. A hospital was quarantined and additional precautions were put in place around the region. The concern is

• 1:22:26Speaker 01

  pneumonic plague, uh, the lung form of plague which can spread person to person through respiratory droplets. And Vinny, I'm sure you love that part of it.

• 1:22:36Speaker 03

  Yeah, I love that.

• 1:22:36Speaker 01

  So for now, none of the monitored contacts have been confirmed with plague and officials have reported them asymptomatic or testing negative. Russia's Public Health Agency says the woman officially died from pneumonia of unknown origin and says its testing has not established that plague from her laboratory was the cause of her death. Tom, how worried are you about this?

• 1:22:55Speaker 04

  Well, I'm not really worried because this doctor from Russia came to the microphone. His name is Anton Faucher and um, Anton Faucher came, I'm making that up. I, I, I created a Russian.

• 1:23:07Speaker 03

  I gotcha.

• 1:23:07Speaker 01

  Is this a clip from Rubio? Let's see what Rubio had to say. Go for it.

• 1:23:11Speaker 13

  We know what we know, obviously, about whatever the Russians have provided, which is it seems that there was a and a worker at the lab that was infected and there's concern that that, you know, could have spread, uh, at least internally. So you've seen them do quarantines and that's of that nature. Um, there's very limited travel between the US and Russia, obviously. Uh, but like anything else, something like that gets out, it could quickly spread. So we're watching and monitoring it closely. Yeah, I don't think it's cause for alarm, but it is cause for focus and a cause to just keep an eye on it and we're doing that.

• 1:23:42Speaker 04

  We know what we know. All kidding aside about, you know, creating an Anthony Fa- Anton Fauchinsky, you know, um, of Russia. Uh, and I'm sure there probably will be one. Um, my hope, I'm with Rubio on this one 100%. Watch, we got to watch out for this and see what's going on there and see, was it truly just a lab accident, unfortunately. But well, you know what it also says? It says the Russians have a lab working on bioweapons.

• 1:24:09Speaker 03

  That's the point that I was gonna make. Like, did we, like, the blade?

• 1:24:13Speaker 04

  Have we forgot that, that an enemy country is working on bioweapons? And then, you know, she, she, um, you know, damaged a, a, a storage unit, whether she dropped the test tube or whatever it was, something broke open and she got contaminated. And the contamination led to a, a violent, fast-moving pneumonia. They, that she died of congestive heart failure, of pneumonia rather quickly.

• 1:24:38Speaker 01

  Vinny, how worried are you?

• 1:24:39Speaker 03

  Um, uh, listen, okay, if we don't learn from, from the past, moving forward, then we are literally stupid. And I'm not saying nothing about, about Rubio saying, you know, it's no cause for alarm. I think there's always cause for alarm, okay?

• 1:24:54Speaker 01

  He can't say that though, because he has to be calm.

• 1:24:57Speaker 03

  He has to be calm, but he.

• 1:24:57Speaker 01

  Remember, the way the left reacted was so much fear and, and scared the crap out of everybody, right?

• 1:25:03Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:25:03Speaker 01

  And use it.

• 1:25:04Speaker 03

  Well, no, but, but here's the thing. But when the president said China stopped the flights and everything, what did the opposite side do? No, I'm Nancy Pelosi. I'm here in Chinatown. Come over here. No, no. I think who, by the way, that location, Pat, that airport, everybody there shut. It's not like, like, well, Russia's gonna be mad at us. Nobody from that area, they need to monitor anybody that she's been in contact with. I know they're quarantining what, 200 people? None of those people could fly to the United States. Period, full stop, zero. And let them be right. You know what's funny? If Trump says, you know, nobody from there could come here, watch the left all of a sudden and be like, no, we love Russia. Bring them. Bring everybody. No, I think, I think, I don't think it's like cause for alarm, like, oh my God, Pat. But learn from our mistakes. Nobody from there comes over here, period.

• 1:25:48Speaker 03

  Because that's what was happening with freaking COVID. Everybody and their mother was flying here on purpose and that's what happened. And they shut down the freaking world and, and nobody was held accountable. This is Russia.

• 1:25:56Speaker 01

  Adam.

• 1:25:57Speaker 03

  Don't let nobody come here.

• 1:25:58Speaker 04

  Uh, I agree. I mean, cause for concern. If I'm the average American, I, I, I'm not overthinking this. This is nothing that I think is going to affect the average American. I'd be worried about what's going to happen with China because Russia borders China. I'd be worried about what would happen in Ukraine. Because Russia is in an all-scale-out war with, uh, Ukraine right now. So who knows what type of things they're putting on the battlefield? By the way, speaking of Putin and Russia, did you see that story about what Putin mentioned? Uh, his philosophy on wars these days? He said the following, let's see if we can find this. Putin orders Russian troops to abandon the rules of war.

• 1:26:40Speaker 04

  Zelensky claims, Russian President Vladimir Putin has ordered his generals to abandon the rules of war and step up, step up attacks on civilian targets and nuclear energy sites. So just at the same time that there's this potential outbreak with this pneumonic potential plague, you also allegedly have Putin basically saying, attack civilian sites and, uh, nuclear energy sites. So I'll continue to say this and ring the alarms. Russia's not our friend. Russia's a problem. Putin is a thug and we need to act like it. That's just my overall assessment on Russia.

• 1:27:13Speaker 02

  I love this, Pat. Boris Yeltsin admitted that there was a bioweapon program and ordered it shut in 1992. What survived was supposedly a minor biology facility and Russia refused to allow outside verification or inspection. And the US for years has said Russia is likely out of compliance with the bioweapons treaty. Well, here you go. CNN calls it a plague laboratory. Because CNN can't say, and CNN also says things like, minor attracted person. Because we changed the name of things. It's a bio, I'm gonna call it right here. I personally believe that there were, there's smoke, there's fire.

• 1:27:55Speaker 02

  And this means Russians probably have a bioweapons facility that they've had going on that they've, since 1992, when Yeltsin said, yeah, we'll shut the thing off. And remember, remember the three, um, uh, the, the movie Reagan where the three guys kept dying of heart failure like in six months? How am I supposed to negotiate them if they keep dying, right? So he was one of those guys, you know, Chern- Chernyenko, Andrei Chernyenko and, and Yeltsin. So here now we have, we have confirmation that they have a plague institute, not a bioweapons facility. So I, I think.

• 1:28:27Speaker 01

  By the way, that, that facility you're talking about, uh, can you, what's the name of it, Tom? Do you have that, the one that?

• 1:28:33Speaker 02

  The Irkutz, Irkutz, let me pronounce it for you. Siberia adjacent.

• 1:28:38Speaker 01

  Is this the Yeltsin one? No, I'm talking about the one that Yeltsin said. What is the Yeltsin one that he talked about? That's the one I'm interested in.

• 1:28:45Speaker 02

  It's called the, um,

• 1:28:48Speaker 01

  The Yeltsin.

• 1:28:49Speaker 02

  Biological Weapons Convention that they signed and, and.

• 1:28:58Speaker 01

  I just want to know where that location was.

• 1:28:59Speaker 02

  Sverdlovsk, S V E R D L O V S K.

• 1:29:03Speaker 01

  In the city of, the incident.

• 1:29:05Speaker 02

  Sverdlovsk.

• 1:29:06Speaker 01

  But the name of the place was, Anthrax spore leak occurred at Military Compound 19. A highly classified military bi-weapons lab in this, okay, so type in Military Compound 19.

• 1:29:16Speaker 02

  Just find that city, is it in Irkutsk, is Sverdlovsk in Irkutsk?

• 1:29:23Speaker 01

  Yeah, go to that one. It was an Anthrax leak.

• 1:29:27Speaker 02

  This is in 1979, you're saying?

• 1:29:29Speaker 01

  Seventy-nine Soviet authorities.

• 1:29:31Speaker 02

  Can you pull it up on the map?

• 1:29:32Speaker 01

  Maintained illness was due to consumption of tainted meat in the area with butchers. And shows exposure being indicative of a tainted meat.

• 1:29:41Speaker 02

  Oh, wait a minute. I love that. I mean, their excuse was the China excuse 20 years prior?

• 1:29:45Speaker 01

  Came the earlier chronological event.

• 1:29:47Speaker 02

  It was the wet market.

• 1:29:48Speaker 01

  Western event, so Soviet hosting a program aimed, interesting. So then what did they do? Go a little bit lower to see if there's controversy behind it, accident, Harvard University press account. So reported that at some point during the period, April 2nd through 3rd, 1979 Anthrax spores were released from a four-story building located in Soviet Armed Forces Research Facility near the place in Soviet Union referred to as Compound 19 Special Zone. The building is said to have housed a production unit which produced dry bee. Anthrax spores for weapon use, for weapon use. The spores could have created a plumb which the wind carried over parts of it.

• 1:30:30Speaker 02

  The plums? Plume, plume, that's like smoke from a fire.

• 1:30:35Speaker 01

  The release, according to one Russian source, took the plague. Go a little bit lower, go a little bit lower to see what else, what's the 59,000 people, let me see that one? Uh, no, stay, stay right there, right there at the top, there says 59,000 people. Go a little bit, the large scale of vaccinations and population in the affected district were also undertaken by the authorities and all some 80% of our, 59,000 eligible people were injected with the Soviet STI Anthrax vaccine.

• 1:31:01Speaker 01

  Yeah, so, I don't know, listen, when you're working at places like this, is the airport fully shut down of coming down here? Like, not really, right? Because you can travel back and forth, even Rubio said there's not a lot of travel.

• 1:31:15Speaker 03

  From Russia to here?

• 1:31:16Speaker 01

  What is, what is the total volume of travel from Russia to here? What is the total volume of travel from Russia to US?

• 1:31:24Speaker 03

  I would make it zero absolutely today.

• 1:31:26Speaker 04

  There's not much.

• 1:31:27Speaker 03

  You cannot come here.

• 1:31:29Speaker 01

  What is the volume of travel from Russia to here? How many people are coming? What does it say? Russian international.

• 1:31:37Speaker 02

  So you can find the map, Irkutsk is in eastern Siberia, north of China.

• 1:31:44Speaker 01

  Nationals traveling to the US.

• 1:31:46Speaker 03

  Yeah, I'm, I'm anti anybody coming right now, from there.

• 1:31:50Speaker 01

  Uh, uh, uh, uh, uh. I wonder what, because all you need is what? One person.

• 1:31:55Speaker 03

  One, that is it.

• 1:31:57Speaker 01

  The, the, remember how Italy was a big part at the beginning of COVID?

• 1:32:00Speaker 03

  Chinese people were.

• 1:32:01Speaker 01

  Going to Italy and then from there they were coming here, so it also, some people may say, who cares what the number is, it's about.

• 1:32:07Speaker 03

  I'd be much more worried about it going to Europe than I would be coming to America.

• 1:32:09Speaker 02

  Okay, well, let me tell you how it gets here. See, it goes from Irkutsk to China.

• 1:32:14Speaker 02

  Irkutsk is a military and mid-size, mid-size manufacturing city would travel frequently to northern China.

• 1:32:29Speaker 03

  Yeah, I'm not a fan. I would just shut it down.

• 1:32:32Speaker 02

  You're not a fan of, uh, mnemonic plagues?

• 1:32:34Speaker 03

  No, no, I'm not a fan, any, anything with lab.

• 1:32:37Speaker 01

  Trust them.

• 1:32:37Speaker 03

  No, I don't trust them.

• 1:32:38Speaker 01

  Partner, so they're not a partner that what they tell you.

• 1:32:41Speaker 02

  Let me ask you guys, where would you put China on the list of our greatest adversaries?

• 1:32:46Speaker 03

  I, I don't, I, I say enemy, I don't say adversary.

• 1:32:49Speaker 02

  Whatever you want to, uh, enemy, better, whatever you want to.

• 1:32:51Speaker 03

  Like, that guy wants to kill me, he's my adversary, no, no, he's the enemy.

• 1:32:54Speaker 02

  Where do you rank them?

• 1:32:55Speaker 03

  Up, what do you mean? On the global stage? Up, they're up number.

• 1:32:59Speaker 01

  Who's above them?

• 1:33:00Speaker 02

  I mean, okay, I'll just give my ranking and then you, I say Iran number one.

• 1:33:04Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 1:33:04Speaker 02

  Russia number two.

• 1:33:05Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:33:06Speaker 02

  China number three.

• 1:33:07Speaker 01

  So you put Russia ahead of China?

• 1:33:08Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:33:08Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:33:09Speaker 03

  I think, I.

• 1:33:09Speaker 02

  Because we don't, we know no business with Russia. We have an interactive relationship with China, yes, we're competing.

• 1:33:15Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 1:33:15Speaker 02

  But we have a trade agreement with them, we have, it's AI red telephone now. We got nothing going on with Russia. Russia's goal, Russia's a type of per, type of country, they would cut off their arm as long as you lose your arm, but it's like, yeah, you'll lose your arm too. They don't care. That's what they're built for.

• 1:33:32Speaker 03

  I think, well.

• 1:33:32Speaker 02

  Just to distract you, not to ask, what's your ranking?

• 1:33:35Speaker 01

  Nice now, what would you say?

• 1:33:37Speaker 03

  The, the, the, the, um, I, Adam.

• 1:33:39Speaker 02

  What's your?

• 1:33:39Speaker 03

  IRGC, meaning they're evil, they're disgusting people, they can't do anything to us on, on, on a big, big scale. China, perp, in my opinion, purposely released a virus that killed millions, and guess what? Nobody could do nothing to them.

• 1:33:53Speaker 02

  Ranking then?

• 1:33:54Speaker 03

  I'm putting them number one.

• 1:33:55Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:33:55Speaker 03

  Adam, you know why? Millions dead, spying on us, building bases here, and hold on, the scariest part? We have governors of California, everybody worshipping them, bringing them, you have Hassan Piker dressing like freaking Mao Zedong, like the loser like he is. China's up here.

• 1:34:10Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:34:10Speaker 03

  Uh, Russia knows, we got the nukes, you got the nukes. Iran to me, the IRGC.

• 1:34:16Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:34:16Speaker 03

  It's not that big of a threat to me.

• 1:34:17Speaker 02

  I have the travel information, nothing to see here. By the way, what's your ranking? Uh, geopolitical enemies?

• 1:34:24Speaker 04

  China's number one.

• 1:34:25Speaker 03

  China.

• 1:34:26Speaker 02

  China's the biggest, so here we go.

• 1:34:28Speaker 03

  But I think Russia's the worst.

• 1:34:29Speaker 02

  All right, all right, well, let's, let's talk about it. Irkutsk?

• 1:34:32Speaker 01

  I think it's a personal problem, but go, keep going.

• 1:34:34Speaker 02

  I, no, I, so.

• 1:34:35Speaker 03

  What good do we get from Russia?

• 1:34:37Speaker 02

  Hang on, Adam, let's go to, we're talking number scream.

• 1:34:40Speaker 03

  Go ahead.

• 1:34:40Speaker 02

  Twenty-five thousand travelers a month go from Irkutsk to three major areas of China. The major hubs being Beijing and Shanghai, where business travelers go back and forth, well, at least those aren't widely populated, thank God. Um, oh my gosh. And then to Hainan Islands, which is also known as the Hawaii of China. That during the winter, you know, right about now, starting within 30 days, uh, they go to the island of Sanya from Irkutsk, the wealthier people. And people looking to take a break, it's called Hawaii of China, and to the, the more moderate economic people go to the northwest border cities

• 1:35:18Speaker 02

  where they have relatives, because apparently South Russia and northern China, there's a lot of people apparently that ethno socially look fairly similar. So there you have it, 25,000 a month, some go to an island, and then some go to Shanghai, some go to Beijing. So in other words, Pat, there's a lot of travel, if this breaks out as a plague there, the travel, it, it goes everywhere.

• 1:35:40Speaker 01

  Let me ask you a question in a different.

• 1:35:42Speaker 02

  Because it goes to Shanghai and Beijing and.

• 1:35:43Speaker 01

  Let me just be a devil's, and just completely think a different way. Do you think a Putin may be dropping this to scare the shit out of, like, let me just completely go a different direction. Hey, let me tell you what we're capable of here, because remember, this is right after Zelensky says publicly, Ukraine said it forced 250 Russian soldiers to surrender. In there, and then this happens? Do you think this is kind of a part of where Putin's trying to say, look, guys? I don't know if you want to mess around with me, if you want me to stop the whole world, I'm capable of doing that, you guys want to mess around? And he would do it, yeah.

• 1:36:25Speaker 03

  Absolutely.

• 1:36:25Speaker 01

  But what do you think a part of this is like a dark, demonic, dirty?

• 1:36:32Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:36:32Speaker 01

  Way of intentionally doing this just to scare the shit out of the world?

• 1:36:35Speaker 02

  Leaders through this a while.

• 1:36:36Speaker 03

  Did I see former KGB Putin pulling off something like this? Yes.

• 1:36:39Speaker 02

  During, during the early part of the Cold War, um, Francis Kerry Powers was captured when a US U-2 spy plane went down. Before that, we would fly up there sometimes, and there were times where we sent fake distress signals. And we said, we may need your help, we have a military test aircraft that, we just want to let you know. The only reason we said that to them is, is they would look at the map and look at where they are, and, and they'd be like, what the F are the Americans doing at 75,000 feet, a thousand miles over our land? We did it not to warn them that there is a problem, you know what we did it to tell them? I'm there, mother.

• 1:37:15Speaker 01

  We're around.

• 1:37:16Speaker 02

  I was here.

• 1:37:17Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:37:18Speaker 02

  You know, and so we would make, oh gosh, we may have something here, it's a bit of a test, sorry about this.

• 1:37:22Speaker 03

  Psychological warfare.

• 1:37:23Speaker 02

  And they'd be, they'd be going, what the hell are they, that's exactly it.

• 1:37:25Speaker 03

  Psychological warfare.

• 1:37:26Speaker 02

  Now let's take that to the, what Pat just said, turn the page to full-blown evil of wiping out citizens?

• 1:37:34Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:37:34Speaker 02

  Not just telling you how far my military technology can go, but making a threat against citizens, I think he's very capable.

• 1:37:41Speaker 04

  I'll just tell you a quick story of why I became like even more hawkish on Russia versus China. And it was recently, you know, Fareed Zakaria on CNN, he does a great job interviewing a lot of geopolitical characters, he was interviewing, it was, it was, it was basically regarding the 2008 recession, regarding the mortgage-backed securities, and I want to say, was it Ben Bernanke at the time? Whoever was chairman of the Fed, that flew over, and there was a big meeting, and basically he got wind of this story. He said, there was credible, a credible assessment that Russia went to China, Putin went to China and tried to convince the Chinese leadership, I don't know if it was she at the time, to completely offload any mortgage-backed securities that they own

• 1:38:23Speaker 04

  with intention of bringing down the American economy. So the Chinese leaders at the time had, had to say, oh, wow. So you want us to team up against America to do this? And you know what the Chinese leaders decided to do? Nothing. They said, we don't want to get involved in that and make matters worse, because that could bring down the global economy. And Russia was said, we're willing to pay that price. What's my point? Russia is willing to self-destruct in order to bring down America. That's their goal. I'm not saying that China's a friend, and I'm not saying that China's not a foe or a competitor or anything like that, I'm just saying at the end of the day, China is trying to beat America when it comes to the number one economy in the world. Russia is just trying to basically divide and sow chaos in America.

• 1:39:06Speaker 01

  Listen.

• 1:39:06Speaker 04

  That's where I did, that's where I did it.

• 1:39:08Speaker 01

  Did a Russian person piss you off this weekend?

• 1:39:10Speaker 04

  Yeah. No.

• 1:39:11Speaker 01

  Hold it together.

• 1:39:12Speaker 04

  No, a Ukrainian did, but that's a whole nother story.

• 1:39:14Speaker 01

  All right, so let me get to the next story. Next one I want to get to is a clip from Denzel Washington in an interview, he's at a university, he's being asked a question. I love his answer, I think everybody in the world can learn from his answer here, go forward.

• 1:39:29Speaker 14

  Equality, now to see it all so under attack.

• 1:39:33Speaker 15

  Under attack by?

• 1:39:35Speaker 14

  Government forbidding it.

• 1:39:36Speaker 15

  The hardest thing to do is look in the mirror. The easiest thing to do is blame someone else. And I'm not talking about anybody, I'm talking about everybody. It's so easy to go, if we could just get them right, if we could just fix her or just fix him, then we... But we don't look in the mirror. That's where it should start. Well, what can I do better? Well, why don't you try being honest with yourself, Denzel? Or whatever your name is. Ask yourself real questions and give yourself honest answers.

• 1:40:09Speaker 01

  Can you go to the part two? There's two of them.

• 1:40:11Speaker 15

  The last day of your life, doesn't matter what you've done. Who you've helped is what matters, who you've lifted up. You can't have more success than I've had. And I'm here to tell you, it doesn't mean a dag on thing. It complicates things. It's lonely at the top.

• 1:40:28Speaker 01

  Look at the pyramid he explained.

• 1:40:29Speaker 15

  Trust me, I've been at the top. It's a pyramid, it's like this, right? Like a pyramid. It's very slippery up there. There's not a lot of room. It's easy to slide down and there's hardly anybody up there. So be careful of what you ask for and don't measure it by what the world tells you success is.

• 1:40:54Speaker 01

  What a powerful thing to say.

• 1:40:55Speaker 03

  Great freaking point. And I love that.

• 1:40:57Speaker 01

  It's slippery at the top.

• 1:40:58Speaker 03

  You can't left or right.

• 1:41:00Speaker 01

  There's not a lot of... So getting up there is one thing, staying up there is a second thing. But also always trying to see if the other person can fix themselves, it'd be so much better. It's like, well, what if the other guy can fix himself? What if the other guy can do something about it? No, what if you and I can do something about it? It's never been the most exciting message when you give this, when people come up to me and say, "That person did this, this person did this, that person did this." Well, what can you do to improve it? You know, I think a lot of times, like, well, Democrats this and Republicans this and, you know, business this and taxes this and this state this and that person this and my mom this, my dad this, my wife, my husband, my cousin. What role do you play in this?

• 1:41:40Speaker 01

  What role do you and I play? What can we? It's such a unpopular message that whenever you get this message, you don't like that person.

• 1:41:50Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:41:51Speaker 01

  Whenever that person gives you this message, you actually don't want to talk to that person. I remember one time I heard a person say that there's three different types of people that, you know, people speak to. There's those people you speak to that are ahead of you. There's those people that I speak to because ahead of you, they give you wisdom and what's to come and they can challenge you. There's those people that you speak to that are at the same level as you because it tells you you're not the only person that's going through the challenging season. And then there's those people you speak to that are below you because it shows you that you can give value to everybody. Sometimes people just want to hang out with people below them. Because it makes them feel superior instead of making them feel small. You know, and the moment you get to a certain level, you're like, I just want to talk to the people at the same level as me or below me.

• 1:42:35Speaker 01

  That was one of the threats I gave to my guys when I sent a message out to them. People don't want to hear the truth. People don't want to hear the message about what you can do to improve this situation. So I saw this message from Denzel, I'm like, man, the world's got to hear what this guy's saying. I wish Denzel would do more of stuff like this. I wish Denzel would share, every time you see him, you know, in interviews, he drops gems.

• 1:42:57Speaker 03

  He's very good.

• 1:42:57Speaker 01

  One time a lady says, "So who did you vote for?" Have you ever seen this interview when he was asked, "Who did you vote for?" You ever seen this? Can you find this? Have you ever seen this?

• 1:43:04Speaker 03

  It was outside?

• 1:43:05Speaker 01

  Yeah, he was outside. He's like, he says, "Who did you vote for?" And he says, "Who did I vote for?" It's none of your business who I voted for. You've never heard him say?

• 1:43:12Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah, I saw.

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• 1:44:27Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:44:28Speaker 01

  Yeah, none of your business who I voted for. Uh, go for it. Uh, this is two minutes, so let's just, hopefully he'll get right into it.

• 1:44:35Speaker 04

  Mr. Washington, you're here in DC during an interesting time with the transition in the White House. Just wondering who you wound up supporting in the election and why?

• 1:44:46Speaker 15

  Go ahead, go ahead, go ahead now.

• 1:44:47Speaker 16

  Fences.

• 1:44:48Speaker 15

  Fences.

• 1:44:51Speaker 04

  How about this? I don't know if you saw it, there's a fake news story going around. It got thousands of shares online. You saw that? And I just thought you might want to clear it up because people are confused.

• 1:45:01Speaker 15

  There's a few Rs that start with F and end with K. That one ends with E, but it starts with F.

• 1:45:10Speaker 17

  Yeah, but it's too vague, you gotta be specific right now. F, K and E?

• 1:45:16Speaker 15

  What was the question?

• 1:45:18Speaker 04

  Well, that was a question. Who you wound up supporting in the election? Presidential election?

• 1:45:23Speaker 15

  None of your business.

• 1:45:26Speaker 04

  None of my business?

• 1:45:26Speaker 15

  None of your business.

• 1:45:27Speaker 04

  Well, I'm only asking because the story was online, but that's okay. Let me ask you this, what issue do you hope President-elect Trump tackles? What's number one in your mind with the new administration?

• 1:45:39Speaker 15

  I don't know, you know, I'd have to be more informed to just say off the top of my head.

• 1:45:43Speaker 03

  What a great answer. I don't know.

• 1:45:45Speaker 15

  Education, jobs, health, I mean, there's so many, yeah.

• 1:45:50Speaker 04

  I want to just ask you though about the issue of race relations because the film touches upon that. Right now, under President Obama, over the last eight years, in your mind, has race, have race relations improved under his leadership?

• 1:46:05Speaker 15

  You know, race relationships have to do with race relationships. You're white or whatever you are, I'm black or whatever I am. We're standing here talking now. That's how we get things done. You can't legislate love. The President of the United States can't legislate us to liking each other.

• 1:46:21Speaker 01

  Let me tell you, so every once in a while, when the kids have a lot of homework and everybody's busy, you know what I can, there's a few movies I can watch back to back to back. Movie ends, I can put it again. You know what's one of them?

• 1:46:35Speaker 03

  Man on Fire.

• 1:46:35Speaker 01

  Man on Fire. And you know, in a different lifetime, Denzel was going to be a pastor.

• 1:46:42Speaker 03

  Really?

• 1:46:43Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah. Denzel, Man on Fire, I can watch. And in that, he's conflicted with God and his life and we just for living and killing people and all this other stuff, dude.

• 1:46:55Speaker 01

  I don't know. I wish this guy would talk more. And not about politics, about life.

• 1:47:01Speaker 03

  Life.

• 1:47:01Speaker 01

  Forget about politics, who you voted for. I want to know how you think. He can read, he's one of those guys, he's one of these guys. You know what these guys are? These are the guys that he can do this. He can bring these guys and say, knock it off already. He's one of those guys.

• 1:47:17Speaker 03

  Synnergist.

• 1:47:18Speaker 01

  You don't have a lot of guys like this.

• 1:47:21Speaker 01

  You know, very, and he said, he says, "Trust me, I've been to the top." What is he saying? He's not right now.

• 1:47:29Speaker 03

  He's not right now.

• 1:47:29Speaker 01

  You know how hard to say, he was at the top, he was the guy.

• 1:47:33Speaker 03

  Of course. Forever, and that ricochet, all the movement. And I love that you brought God into it because, you know, about the people that you want to hear and the friends that you don't want to hear the advice and you don't want to hear those people. You know who was that person? Jesus Christ at the end of the day. He wasn't like a nice guy. He wasn't walking around patting everybody in the back. He would tell you, he would call everybody out on everything and a lot of people didn't want to be around him. That was that friend that we have, that's always like, hey, listen, that they check you. They're like, hey, man, you're not like, think about it, if you're getting big, if you're gaining weight, you don't want to be around the person that's always like, yo, dude, I've been watching you and you know what I mean? Are you trying to get healthy? Are you trying to, if you're not ready, Pat, to make a decision, that's the last person you want to do. You want to be away from that person as much as you can.

• 1:48:17Speaker 03

  And so I think it's, I think it's very important to actually want to be around that person and hold your foot to the fire all the time. Like, dude, how are you doing? Not always bashing you, but how are you doing? How's your family? That thing that you were talking to me about, are you okay? Are you doing this? Are you trying to make changes? You need that though.

• 1:48:33Speaker 04

  Well, I just want to go back to what he said at the beginning and why I thought it was so important, I think the reason that you wanted to show this is because it starts with you at the end of the day. And he gave the shout out to, there's your shout out.

• 1:48:44Speaker 03

  There's a shout out.

• 1:48:44Speaker 04

  To the man in the mirror, Michael Jackson. Every day, that's the only person you see. You look in the mirror, that's who you're going to see. And he talked about self-reflection and self-improvement and self-esteem and self-reliance and personal finance and everything that you can do on your own. You know, the way I look at it is the world is changing so fast. What can you do? What can you control? What are the things that matter to you that you can actually do to manifest what you want in your life? And I love what he said about you can't legislate love. You're going to get along with the people you're going to get along with in your life and you're going to make those decisions. So, respect to Denzel. That sounds pretty conservative to me, Denzel, but I don't want to put words in your mouth. Doesn't, none of my business, you know?

• 1:49:28Speaker 01

  Yeah, I love, I love, I love this guy's philosophy and the way he is, personality. He'd be the kind of guy I would want to have a three-hour dinner with, no cameras on, no phones, nothing, just to talk to him. Not even a podcast. Somebody you want to just talk to.

• 1:49:42Speaker 03

  Did I tell you the story about Denzel and his son? My friend Damon Wayans Jr. was at a movie, like, sitting in the front and he went with Denzel's son and apparently the son wasn't supposed to go. Everybody's in this theater, the movie hasn't started yet and Denzel Washington walks in and goes, "You, get the hell out of here." And Damon's in there and he's like, can you imagine, you're in the theater and Denzel Washington walks in, points at somebody and goes, "Get the hell out of here," and they leave. His son was in there, he didn't have permission to go watch a movie. So it's a...

• 1:50:13Speaker 01

  It's my kind of a guy.

• 1:50:13Speaker 03

  Yeah, I love that.

• 1:50:14Speaker 01

  All right, let's go to the next story. Let's go to the next story. So on another note, Tom Cruise does this movie, 160 million out of budget. And it ends up doing eight million dollars opening weekend. Uh, the movie's called what? Digger?

• 1:50:28Speaker 03

  Digger.

• 1:50:29Speaker 01

  Uh, Digger and the, the story, so what's the movie about Tom? You were talking about, I saw the commercial, it sucked.

• 1:50:35Speaker 03

  Uh, I, so.

• 1:50:36Speaker 01

  It was horrible.

• 1:50:37Speaker 03

  It's a climate change movie.

• 1:50:38Speaker 02

  I was confused with the commercial. I was confused by a few things I saw on X and social media that were reviewing it. So I attempted to go find a description of the plot. And the nearest thing we can figure out is you as the viewer open up with this supposed uh, oil billionaire named Digger.

• 1:50:56Speaker 03

  Digger Rockwell.

• 1:50:57Speaker 02

  Who is, who is drilling for oil in um, uh.

• 1:51:01Speaker 03

  Greenland.

• 1:51:01Speaker 02

  In Greenland and they hit this methane glass, gas, which makes this huge explosion. And a giant chunk of Greenland breaks off and starts floating.

• 1:51:11Speaker 03

  Towards Europe.

• 1:51:11Speaker 02

  On the currents, toward Norway, where they say it's gonna make big um, tidal waves and destroy shipping lanes and all this stuff in Norway. And then all of a sudden, well, this is, and then they decided, uh, according to the plot, no, you know what, we're not gonna tell anything to anybody. Maybe it'll just melt enough in the ocean that when it hits, it won't be so bad. So then all of a sudden, things pull back and you realize you're watching a stage play playing out this happening. And so I looked at it and I'm like, this is completely confusing with twists. So that's the nearest I can figure what it was about. And Pat, whether the viewers didn't see Tom Cruise in this role, or they didn't understand

• 1:51:53Speaker 02

  the way the plot was twisting, or they thought it was just another anti-climate change, anti-oil drilling, D E I. The fact is, everybody else did something else this weekend as baseball playoffs started. The NFL hit week four, college football was in full song, and there were other movies out there and they ended up in Suxville for the weekend box office.

• 1:52:18Speaker 03

  And Tom, you nailed it. He was, he's an oil tycoon, but so, so check this out, guys. This, these are the numbers, right? Costs around a hundred and twenty-five million to one sixty, they're saying, closer to one sixty to make.

• 1:52:27Speaker 02

  Which is a small movie, independent movie without CGI nowadays, that's pretty.

• 1:52:31Speaker 03

  Yeah, and he's producing plus roughly one hundred million in marketing. Uh, meaning Warner Brothers could have a two hundred and twenty-five million, a two hundred and sixty million dollar investing in this thing. Eight million domestically, putting it as one of the biggest box office bombs of two thousand and twenty-six. So Tom, the movie's essentially, it's a satire about fossil fuels, billionaires, politics, climate change and all that stuff. So here's my thing.

• 1:52:52Speaker 02

  With a twist about whether you're watching a play on stage or you're in, in.

• 1:52:56Speaker 03

  In the movie, yeah, which, which is, that's who the director is and he, he did Birdman and he did uh, The Revenant, you know, Revenant, which, you know, one of my favorites, you know, top twenty movies. But this is the thing, and I absolutely love Tom Cruise. When me and Dylan met him at the World Cup, I actually had a moment where I didn't even really want a picture, but I was like, Tom, I just wanna say thank you. Cause like he would, and he, he said that, I go, thank you for all the times of all the movies, of all the moments that me and my, cause my dad, you know, would, you know, drink and he was that guy, but when those movies were on, all of us were just in another world and we forgot about the, the life that we were living in. So I thanked him for that and he looked at me, Tom, he was like, wow. He's like, nobody's ever complimented me like that. So, so I thanked him, but look, look at, like, remember, he just did Top Gun a couple

• 1:53:39Speaker 03

  of years ago, Maverick, that's what, America, fighter jets, brotherhood, that type of stuff. How many times is Hollywood not going to get it, Tom? Like how many times? From climate lectures to LGBTQ, from what we found out about Disney and all this stuff, it's like Hollywood keeps turning entertainment into this sermon. And how many times are you guys not gonna get it? America doesn't want it. If I'm gonna go watch a horror movie, I wanna be scared, okay? If I wanna go watch a, a, a, Tom Cruise, jump off of the building, do your own stunts, that's who you are. Like this, this shift.

• 1:54:12Speaker 02

  Yeah, MI eight.

• 1:54:13Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, MI, Tom, it could be like, like Fast and Furious thirty-five, it could be MI twenty, if Tom Cruise is in it, I'm watching it. Besides him as being a freaking fantastic actor, the guy's jumping off.

• 1:54:24Speaker 02

  The actor is portraying characters that is in sync with their, your perception of them. And now I wanna see him do it again.

• 1:54:30Speaker 03

  Absolutely.

• 1:54:30Speaker 01

  Well, he said, Cruise said, he's been wanting to work with Alejandro, was a long held dream.

• 1:54:36Speaker 03

  Yup.

• 1:54:36Speaker 01

  That he wanted to work with them. So he admires his work and his fearlessness and willingness to transform himself for the role. And they're not best friends, but we know this Alejandro guy, he's not like, he's not a conservative, he's gonna be on a complete opposite side. So there's a message there and sometimes, you know, Jim Scott Bell, who Tom introduced me to, wrote a book called Plot and Something, he said, whenever the message is bigger than the entertainment, you lose the audience.

• 1:55:04Speaker 03

  Yup.

• 1:55:04Speaker 01

  And maybe the message was bigger than uh, the entertainment. And maybe they, they were trying to make such a message about climate, because what, what critics called the movie, these are the words they used, smug, overlonged, loud, preachy. So deliberately unpleasant, like it's, it's trying to tell you that you're wrong for doing this and uh.

• 1:55:26Speaker 03

  How do you not know, how, how do you not know that America doesn't wanna hear that?

• 1:55:31Speaker 01

  Vinny, like if right now, who's your favorite director of all time? Who would you wanna make, be in a movie with?

• 1:55:36Speaker 03

  Francis Ford Coppola.

• 1:55:37Speaker 01

  If Coppola gave you a movie right now to do that is a story about capitalism sucks, are you gonna say no to it?

• 1:55:42Speaker 03

  That capitalism sucks?

• 1:55:44Speaker 01

  And you're playing a guy that is giving hardcore recognition to communists.

• 1:55:50Speaker 03

  No.

• 1:55:50Speaker 01

  And it's, oh, you would not play that movie?

• 1:55:52Speaker 03

  No, because. Anti, and anti, cause I don't stand for that, Pat.

• 1:55:56Speaker 01

  It's a story about Americans are greedy and all they care about is money, but you get to play with Coppola and you're, you're the fifth most important role in a movie. You would entertain it.

• 1:56:06Speaker 03

  I would entertain it, but in my heart.

• 1:56:08Speaker 01

  So maybe, maybe it's just a role, cause you wanted to work with him. And maybe we as viewers don't have to necessarily say he agrees with the storyline.

• 1:56:17Speaker 03

  But he invested money too, but he's a producer of the movie. Tom put his money.

• 1:56:20Speaker 01

  Did Tom put money into it?

• 1:56:21Speaker 03

  Oh yeah, could you look it up?

• 1:56:22Speaker 01

  You know that for a fact?

• 1:56:23Speaker 03

  I'm, I'm almost.

• 1:56:24Speaker 01

  You can get the producer and not put money.

• 1:56:25Speaker 03

  I'm almost positive that he had to, I think he put money, cause if he's producing it, Pat, I think he's, he's.

• 1:56:33Speaker 01

  If he invested, you can get producer without investing, because they wanna put that name under as a title, cause it can, it can draw an audience.

• 1:56:40Speaker 03

  Did he, um, can you?

• 1:56:41Speaker 02

  Well, what's wrong with him doing a passion project?

• 1:56:43Speaker 01

  No credible reporting that Tom Cruise personally put his own cash into the movie.

• 1:56:46Speaker 03

  But he did, but he is a producer of it.

• 1:56:48Speaker 01

  And what, what I'm saying is, he had a producer.

• 1:56:49Speaker 02

  He did not personally invest.

• 1:56:50Speaker 01

  Champion, champion, those are two different things that you can do. So I don't know if he invested in it or not. Okay.

• 1:56:57Speaker 02

  Not his best work.

• 1:56:58Speaker 01

  Uh, but not a snitch.

• 1:57:00Speaker 03

  But not a snitch.

• 1:57:01Speaker 02

  Who would you, who would you select? What, like it, similar to Cruise with this, is there somebody out there that you would love to work with, like if you were an actor?

• 1:57:09Speaker 01

  For me, it wouldn't be director, it would be an actor. If, if I'm, if I'm in a movie with Denzel, with RDJ, with Russell Crowe, with um, you know, Vince Vaughn, man, you know, Vince Vaughn, like the stuff you watch, like Speaker City, right? You know, the stuff that he did with Old School and.

• 1:57:31Speaker 03

  You know, Little Get a Couple Miles.

• 1:57:32Speaker 01

  You think I'm doing this for me? You think I'm doing this for you? You think I wanna be away from my wife and kids? I'm doing this for you, shame on you for saying something like that.

• 1:57:40Speaker 03

  We need sand in here, I know, great sand guy.

• 1:57:42Speaker 01

  The stuff that he says, earmuffs, that's all you have to say. You know, yeah, why can't you do it? That's all you have to do. Uh, I'd love to, you know, with, there's certain people, but uh.

• 1:57:49Speaker 03

  Like I would love Mel Gibson directing, Stanley Kubrick, you know, like those type of guys that were a lot.

• 1:57:54Speaker 01

  Well, Mel Gibson would be a fun one. Mel Gibson would be a fun one. Who would it be for you?

• 1:57:57Speaker 02

  Ridley Scott, it's not even close.

• 1:57:59Speaker 01

  Really?

• 1:57:59Speaker 02

  Ridley Scott. I don't care for the, the liberal guys that are out there, the, you know, I, I just, I just don't, um, you know, Dino De Laurentiis going way back when.

• 1:58:10Speaker 03

  De Laurentiis, of course.

• 1:58:11Speaker 02

  But Ridley Scott, the things that he did, he did Alien, he did Blade Runner.

• 1:58:14Speaker 03

  Of course, he's old school.

• 1:58:15Speaker 02

  Gladiator, but look at the amount of time that spans. Blade Runner.

• 1:58:19Speaker 03

  Jeez.

• 1:58:20Speaker 02

  Alien, Gladiator.

• 1:58:22Speaker 03

  Oh yeah.

• 1:58:22Speaker 02

  And everything, it's just incredible. And of course, his brother, Tony Scott, did uh, Top Gun and all that, and then.

• 1:58:27Speaker 03

  Those are brothers?

• 1:58:29Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:58:29Speaker 03

  Brother?

• 1:58:30Speaker 02

  And then Tony Scott committed suicide in Long Beach, California, jumping off a bridge. Uh, true story, unfortunately, tragically, but I'd wanna work with somebody like um, Ridley Scott.

• 1:58:40Speaker 01

  Very cool. Now we know Ridley, if you're looking for an actor.

• 1:58:43Speaker 03

  Actor, Tom is very good, he's been in a couple sketches.

• 1:58:45Speaker 02

  Or Didley Scott?

• 1:58:46Speaker 01

  Tom has been on a couple sketches. So let me, let me read to you guys, father and son segment. Let me read this to you about relationship of a father and a son, and how a son views his father, uh, as they're going through the different ages. Okay, so here we go. At five years old, your dad is your superhero. He's the strongest and cleverest man on the planet. He lifts you with one arm, fixes anything that breaks and knows the answer to everything. Nothing is scary next to him, not the dark, not monsters, not thunder. You wanna grow up to be exactly like him at five years old. At ten years old, dad is the defender. He's the one you run to when someone hurts you outside, when the bike breaks or when

• 1:59:30Speaker 01

  you need a yes for something that matters. He is still a hero, but he is no longer a magician. You start to notice that he gets tired and that sometimes he does not know either. But behind him, it's still safe. At fifteen years old, dad understands nothing. His advice is old, his rules drive you mad and his jokes are not funny. You tell him, you don't get me and leave me alone. You are sure you are smarter than him and would do fine without him. And you never notice how much your silence hurts him. At 20, that is somewhere in the background. You're busy building your own life with study, friends, first love, first money. He calls you and you decline with, "I'll ring you back later."

• 2:00:15Speaker 01

  He texts and you answer in one word. And every single day he waits for a simple, "Hey Dad, how are you?" And he doesn't get that text. At 25, it turns out he was right. The advice that annoyed you works and the warnings came true. What sounded like nagging was experienced all along. You start calling him yourself, asking and listening. He was never behind the times. He had just walked the road before you and he was trying to save you from the potholes. At 30, that becomes a person. He's not a superhero or God. He's a man who was scared, who got things wrong, who did not know the right way either. He worked the job he hated so you could have a childhood and he kept his own pain quiet.

• 2:01:00Speaker 01

  So you would never carry it. You finally see him as he is and you love him more for it. At 40, time is running out. You notice the gray hair, the slower walks, the pauses when he loses a word. It hits you that he will not be here forever. So now you count the visits, you hug him harder. Say the things you put off for years. One day, there will be nobody left to say them to. After he's gone, Dad lives inside you for good. You catch his gestures, his phrases and his look in your own mirror. You raise your own children and suddenly understand every choice he made and every silence he kept. He never really left.

• 2:01:44Speaker 01

  He is in your voice when you tell your children, "Don't be scared, I'm right here." So call him today if you can, not tomorrow and not on a holiday. Say the things you keep putting off or just ask Dad, "How are you?" Those words mean the world to him more than you know. So guys, let's just text our dad real quick and say, "Dad, how you doing?" If you can, some people's dads are not here, but it's a simple message that means the world. Tom, when you, when you hear something like this, 5, 10, 15, 20, 30, 40, how do you process that?

• 2:02:17Speaker 02

  I'm glad that my dad and I didn't have a real distant shift in my teenage years.

• 2:02:25Speaker 02

  I found he was pretty smart, pretty quick. First business I built was when I was 17, my surfboard and boat repair business. And I remember him sitting down, talking to me and saying, "Now you do know that you're wrapping some of that resin in newspaper and putting it in a trash can and it probably should be chemical disposal." And I'm like, "Yeah, I guess I gotta..." So you told me, I remember that conversation and I remember him saying, "And you do know you're not paying insurance in my garage? And you do know if something, those surfboards get stolen out of my garage, you're gonna have to pay for those because you have no business insurance." And I'm like, "Dude, all I was trying to do was make money repairing surfboards." But I remember just how smart that was.

• 2:03:07Speaker 02

  And when I wanted to be a marine biologist and he's, and I had no internet. So I drove down to University of Miami and I said, "Hey, what do, what do people do with a marine biologist degree?" "Oh, about 60% of them go get a masters." "Thanks." I drive all the way back home from Miami. And then my dad said, "What do they do with the masters degree?" And I'm like, "Damn it, I didn't ask, I didn't think." I go back down there and I find out about 70% of the masters get a PhD and they go to work for an oil company as a offshore drilling lobbyist, or they go work for an environmental fund, or they go back and teach. "Okay, you may enjoy marine biology, but do any of those three things have any appeal to you?" I said, "No."

• 2:03:49Speaker 02

  So I remember how my dad used to give me logic and reasoning with questions. And I would go out and find the answer and come back and like, "Did he, did he know this but put me through this?" And that's what I can go, I remember complaining to my mom, "Mom, I drove all the way down to Miami twice. I had to pay for gas and everything and just to get the answer to the question." She said, "Well, now you have your answer." And I used to think to myself, "Did he have the answer all along and I could have just asked him, but I wouldn't have..."

• 2:04:15Speaker 01

  So he was a builder?

• 2:04:16Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:04:16Speaker 01

  And what's the greatest thing you learned from him? Greatest lesson you learned from your dad? I'm gonna come to you guys as well. What's the greatest lesson you have? And folks, if you're listening to this, just post it below. What's the greatest lesson you learned from your dad?

• 2:04:25Speaker 02

  Never piss off your mother. So it's like, was...

• 2:04:28Speaker 01

  Is that it or you're joking?

• 2:04:29Speaker 02

  No, I'm, that was number two. Now that's a pretty big one, if you know bad...

• 2:04:33Speaker 01

  But was that actually one that he would say?

• 2:04:35Speaker 02

  Well, he wouldn't say it like that. He said, "Don't upset your mother." He would warn me because then we're all in trouble. And he was very, because if mom was upset something for a week, it's always like, okay, everything was there. I think the lesson he taught me was simply about integrity, honesty and, you know, don't, don't give that up because you'll carry a label for a long time.

• 2:05:00Speaker 01

  Favorite moment with him ever?

• 2:05:02Speaker 02

  Favorite moment ever with him?

• 2:05:06Speaker 02

  Ever?

• 2:05:06Speaker 05

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• 2:06:29Speaker 02

  When he got cancer at 59 and he and my mom had a little extra money. And so he selected MD Anderson Cancer Research in Houston. And they were flying from Atlanta to Houston for treatment because it was the best in the US for cancer, the esophagus, what he had. And my favorite moment was sitting with him after his surgery and just talking about things that matter, but we didn't talk about the cancer. We talked about optimism. We talked about persistence and we talked about tomorrow.

• 2:07:07Speaker 02

  Cause I flew down for him and when I walked into the room, he tried to get out of the hospital bed after the surgery with these IVs and everything because he wanted to hug me. And then we talked about everything but cancer for two days. And two years later, the cancer won. I remember.

• 2:07:34Speaker 01

  You're amazing, Tom.

• 2:07:35Speaker 02

  That was, it's just like, asking me these questions, man, it's hard. But it's like...

• 2:07:41Speaker 01

  Tom, thank you for being vulnerable.

• 2:07:43Speaker 02

  No, it's hard.

• 2:07:45Speaker 01

  But, but Mike...

• 2:07:46Speaker 02

  It's hard to lose a parent at 60. And I know there's another guy I know right now is hurting because he lost his mom at 60 and a half. And this is something that now we both share that I was trying to encourage him a little bit with.

• 2:07:59Speaker 01

  Yeah. Benny, what would you say?

• 2:08:04Speaker 03

  From, from what he, what, what I remember?

• 2:08:05Speaker 01

  Lessons and favorite moment?

• 2:08:07Speaker 03

  Um, because I'm, well, I'm gonna take it and I'm gonna bring it down to this because me and Tom shared, my dad died at 53, almost 54 years old. I was 19. I remember getting the news. I was protecting a missile while they were working on it. My mom calls and goes, "Listen, FYI, he has it. Don't worry about it. He's gonna have chemo." So they kind of downplayed it and in three months I'll get to that part really quick. But Pat, because he can think, mind you, my dad spoke five languages fluent, Syrian, Farsi, Russian, you name, my father was that guy, okay? Composure, music, math whiz, okay? Loved all his friends. The only thing he really told, there's one thing that always stuck out and he said, "You tell me who your friends are and I'll tell you who you are." That's one of the main things.

• 2:08:49Speaker 03

  Another one that he said was, "Money is a very good thing, but a very good thing isn't money." Those are two things that always...

• 2:08:54Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 2:08:55Speaker 03

  My dad said that to me.

• 2:08:56Speaker 01

  Money is a very good thing, but a very good thing isn't money.

• 2:08:59Speaker 03

  Those are two things that I, that I...

• 2:09:00Speaker 01

  Favorite memory.

• 2:09:01Speaker 03

  Favorite memory.

• 2:09:02Speaker 01

  I know last week you shared that picture. That, that was wild.

• 2:09:05Speaker 03

  Picture is deep.

• 2:09:05Speaker 01

  But favorite memory ever?

• 2:09:07Speaker 03

  Oh, man.

• 2:09:08Speaker 01

  Fondness.

• 2:09:08Speaker 03

  I'm gonna try, oh man, I'm gonna try to hold it together too, Tom. He went out and he drank and I would sit, me and my brother shared the same room, TV. I'm sitting there watching TV and it's late and I shouldn't be watching TV. I heard him come in drunk, you know, door coming in. So I'm sitting there and I'm pretending that I'm sleeping, Pat. And I've only told a few people this. Comes into my room, doesn't go to my brother's bed, comes to my bed and I know he's drunk. I could smell it and I could, mother, he never showed emotion, no hugging, no kissing to us. Just stayed there with me for like a minute, kissed me on my head, got up and he left. And I pretended I was sleeping the whole time and I never woke up to tell him like, "What was I gonna do? Wake up?" I'm like, "Hey Dad, I know that you're drunk and that you're here."

• 2:09:51Speaker 03

  Never could show the emotion when he was sober, but I'm saying when he was around. But in this moment, he came home and it was the weirdest thing because I just stayed sleeping. I didn't, what was I gonna do?

• 2:10:01Speaker 01

  Will you remember him kissing you?

• 2:10:02Speaker 03

  I 100% remember and my brother was passed out. Vicky was passed out, but I shut the TV off and pretended I was sleeping. And one of the hardest things, Tom, was, Pat, when I tell you like how you are with math, how he is with math, my dad was so amazing. Like I would, I'd go in the back of the book to see the math, like to test, see if he was right. One day the answer in the back was wrong and he's like, "No, no, that's wrong." I went to school and I tell the teacher, I go, "Hey, uh, just to let you know, this is wrong in the back." And my math teacher was like, "How the hell did you figure that out?" And I could, I, I didn't want to be like, "Oh, my dad was doing my homework for me." But like she gave me, she gave me credit for that. But the worst is when this three months, I go to visit, when the doctor tells my mom, "You should have, have your kids come now because this is not gonna end good."

• 2:10:47Speaker 03

  It went from lung, he smoked three packs a day, from lung to brain to bone. My dad went from looking 53 to looking 90, lost all the hair and everything, Pat. And one of the hardest things is when I was there for the two weeks before he passed and I'm sitting there and I'm in the recovery, like they're trying to see if he's, because the brain was, the brain cancer was like a sheet on his head and I saw it on the, on the, on the x-ray. Pat, the, the nurse is trying to do simple math with my dad. I'm talking about five plus five and I'll never forget. She's like, "Okay, Mr. O'Shaughnessy, five plus five." And he gives me the look and he's like... He doesn't know and at the last week, he didn't even know who I was. Cause this pressed on his brain so hard. At the end, my father had no idea.

• 2:11:32Speaker 03

  Who I was or who we were and my mom was in that room, sleeping in the hospital. Every single day for months, Pat, and the day before, the day that he died. He wasn't eating anything he told her, go shopping with my sister, go shopping and go get food. And that was the moment that he passed and I walked in with my brother, like the last, the last breath, I walked into the room when that happened. So. Yeah, kinda rough.

• 2:11:55Speaker 04

  Anyway, how's your math skills these days?

• 2:11:58Speaker 03

  I'm doing gooder than you.

• 2:12:01Speaker 04

  But uh. We gotta get that picture for you, man.

• 2:12:03Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:12:05Speaker 04

  Respect on that.

• 2:12:09Speaker 04

  Oh, you want me to?

• 2:12:09Speaker 03

  What about you?

• 2:12:10Speaker 04

  Uh, what's the question?

• 2:12:12Speaker 01

  Fondness memory.

• 2:12:13Speaker 04

  Fondness memory. Uh, well, how do I summarize this? My dad was not a role model, but, but he was an example. Uh, showed me of maybe who I wanted to be and, and who I don't wanna be. Uh, but we always bonded about sports. I remember when the, uh, the Marlins beat the Yankees, I think it was.

• 2:12:34Speaker 03

  Ninety.

• 2:12:35Speaker 04

  Maybe 2001.

• 2:12:36Speaker 03

  2002 maybe.

• 2:12:37Speaker 04

  We always bonded about sports. We could always get, you know, if there was a Heat game on. Or like a Michigan Wolverine game on, cause my dad's from Detroit, or even a Pistons game. We always bonded about sports. He would, there's my dad right there with.

• 2:12:49Speaker 03

  Oh wow, it's the first time I've ever seen your dad.

• 2:12:51Speaker 04

  Yeah, that was, um, he always had, he had a knee brace on, he had a heart issues. He had a lot of stuff. I'll just tell you this, I, I think. What, what I learned with my relationship with my dad. I, I never blocked my dad. You know, you can block someone on your phone? I, I thought about it for, for years, blocking the guy. Because it was, it was always drama and I never blocked him. And the, the only time I did block him was. 2019, when my girl was dealing with cancer and it was. Uh, very hard on me. Uh, this would have been that summer, cause she got diagnosed with cancer July 4th. So that whole summer, he was like. He was like, doing very.

• 2:13:34Speaker 04

  He was blaming me that she got cancer. I'm like, dude, you're just, you're blocked. And I remember he was leaving me voicemails. And then my mom called me and, uh. She's like, you know, your father died. And I was like, what? Cause I, I thought she meant my stepfather, cause he was actually even worse shape. Than my dad. My mom knows how to pick him when, when it comes to health. Um. Went to the funeral and, uh, was very, uh, what's the word, cathartic? Cause you get to speak publicly. I literally did stand-up comedy. And did a eulogy all in one and the crowd was. Crying and laughing and shedding tears and, and, and, and cracking up and it was amazing. And that was the, the best and worst I ever felt and it's been the best feeling on me.

• 2:14:19Speaker 04

  Forever. Eventually I, I, I checked, uh. My phone and I had. So many missed calls and voicemails and they, a lot of them were very negative. And, um. It was, uh. Time and place. He was my dad and, and now, um. Moving into another chapter of my life without him. And, uh, he's taught me, uh, uh, I'll end on a positive note. He taught me a lot about work ethic, cause this guy could barely get out of bed. He had cerebral palsy, had a lot of health issues. But he worked every day and, and I respect that. So.

• 2:14:54Speaker 01

  Isn't it interesting?

• 2:14:55Speaker 04

  Thanks pops.

• 2:14:56Speaker 01

  Since everybody's got a different story.

• 2:14:58Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 2:14:59Speaker 01

  And everybody, you know, when you, when you go through it. The, the, the, when I have, I have my own issues as well with, with family. I mean, when you're talking family, you and I, Vinnie, we've spoken.

• 2:15:08Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 2:15:09Speaker 01

  You know who picked your dad and your mom? God did.

• 2:15:11Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 2:15:12Speaker 01

  For a reason.

• 2:15:13Speaker 04

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:15:13Speaker 01

  You, you, you may not know for a long time, good, bad, ugly, he picked them.

• 2:15:17Speaker 04

  Hmm.

• 2:15:17Speaker 01

  Uh, whether you know, for me, with my dad, it's anytime. Anytime we're together, I've enjoyed the company. The time we're at a wedding in, in Glendale. And this Russian family is like, Gabriel, mehat el vertru, mehat el shat, vodka mat, aliy, amor. He had, we had so much alcohol that they had this wedding, cause he, these guys wouldn't let us.

• 2:15:38Speaker 03

  That was one.

• 2:15:39Speaker 01

  Finally, he's like, we gotta get the, out of here.

• 2:15:41Speaker 04

  Your dad was drinking?

• 2:15:42Speaker 03

  Oh. Gabriel got, how many shots?

• 2:15:44Speaker 01

  What are you, we're at a Russian wedding, cause I used to date a Russian girl that. Listen, we had such a good time at that wedding, but my dad said, if we don't leave tonight. We're gonna be hospitalized. So we left.

• 2:15:56Speaker 04

  Were you both were drinking together?

• 2:15:57Speaker 01

  Are you kidding me?

• 2:15:58Speaker 04

  Oh my god.

• 2:15:58Speaker 01

  The way we're in the car leaving, I can't even tell you how we got home.

• 2:16:02Speaker 03

  Wait, how many shots did he drink?

• 2:16:03Speaker 04

  Papa Gabriel, I had no idea.

• 2:16:06Speaker 01

  Shots.

• 2:16:07Speaker 03

  Stop it.

• 2:16:07Speaker 01

  I'm not joking with you.

• 2:16:08Speaker 04

  I had no idea your dad got down like that.

• 2:16:10Speaker 01

  Their blood is actually made out of.

• 2:16:12Speaker 04

  But your dad's not Russian.

• 2:16:13Speaker 01

  No, but, but he, he knows that, but that day was like horrible.

• 2:16:16Speaker 04

  I have a newfound respect for Papa Gabriel.

• 2:16:18Speaker 01

  No, to us, the first Hawaii trip we went to in February of 2004, Manny Soto and I were talking about this the other day. And, uh, how we looked at a, uh, a, a tuna salad. It was 20 bucks. I said, I'll put 10 bucks if you want to 10 bucks. Like, that's the kinda money we had. And I would go to a local Walmart and buy bread and cheese and, uh. And, uh, ham, just to have sandwich in the morning. I was that broke, but we were in the back and my dad said, you know, I could live in Hawaii one day. I said, you know what? You know, it, it was kinda like first time my dad was dreaming. Or the last moment when we're leaving Iran and he puts a. You know, necklace or he gives me something for me to think about, cause this is a guy I wanted to be around my entire life. Gypsy King concert, wrote a bunch of different things, but, uh. Special guy, but, uh, no matter who it is, folks, whatever you're doing.

• 2:17:02Speaker 01

  Call your dad, send him a message, ask him how you're doing. You would be surprised by this. So let me read, uh, this last manect before I shut it down. And get off. I got a manect from a, from a man in Australia. He says, my name is Leon. I'm from Australia. My parents and I enjoy listening to your podcast and your co-host, all of them, Adam, Tom and Vinnie. My dad Frank. Has stage four pancreatic cancer. He was on chemo for quite a while. And was not doing well, but the situation has changed since and after meeting with the doctors today, his options may become limited. Despite the diagnosis. Both of my parents have been very supportive and positive as they keep saying, think positive and be positive.

• 2:17:44Speaker 01

  I'm very grateful to God for giving him the best parents I could have ever asked for. If possible, it would be very much appreciated if you and the team could send a message to him. And keep him in your thoughts on the manect back. I said, instead of sending a message back, we're sending it to your. Frank, wherever you are, sir, out of Australia, respect to you for staying positive. Leon, good for you for, you know, praising your dad and giving him credit. You know, you are part of the lucky few of having great parents. Who setting a great example for you and may God be with you. You're in our prayers.

• 2:18:14Speaker 04

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:18:15Speaker 01

  And, uh, hopefully you get better, God willing, and. Uh, we'll get a chance to meet you one of these days. We got a lot of people from Australia that follow the content. But much love and prayers your way, sir, Frank. As well as Leon, much love to you as well. They wanted to hear from everybody here.

• 2:18:29Speaker 03

  Frank, Leon, God bless you both. Rooting and praying for you. Thank you, from all the way from Australia.

• 2:18:34Speaker 01

  Gang, have a good day. Go Yankees. We'll do this again Friday. Take care. God bless. Bye-bye.

• 2:18:42Speaker 05

  Now, more than ever, we need someone on our side, but Rob Whitman? Whitman's votes drove up costs, cut Medicaid and risked 350,000 Virginians healthcare. To pay for tax breaks for himself and his donors, he's not on our side. Shannon Taylor will fight corruption, cut taxes and bring down costs. This November, vote for Shannon Taylor. She's for us. Paid for by HMP, the House Majority PAC dot com, not authorized by any candidate or candidate's committee.

• 2:19:11Speaker 11

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