Saudi Nuclear Deal, LeBron Joins 76ers & Biden China Investigation | PBD Podcast #837

Patrick Bet-David and the Home Team break down Trump’s controversial Saudi nuclear deal, LeBron James joining the Philadelphia 76ers, and the latest investigation involving Biden and China. They also discuss the Iran war, Trump’s sweeping tariffs, Truth Social’s market-moving plan, and more. ----- ✍️ PRE VAULT NETWORKING EVENT: https://bit.ly/4wQIe5k 🎟️ SECURE YOUR 2026 VAULT TICKETS: https://bit.ly/4xU2SCW 👞 GET THE FLB1's: https://bit.ly/4mC4uf6 🧢 SHOP THE BLACK & GOLD FUTURE LOOKS BRIGHT HAT: https://bit.ly/4pe7gZh 🦁 SPONSOR THE VAULT 2026: https://bit.ly/4mFBPpw Ⓜ️ CONNECT ON MINNECT: https://bit.ly/4kSVkso Ⓜ️ PBD PODCAST CIRCLES: https://bit.ly/4mAWQAP 👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: https://bit.ly/4lzQph2 🥃 BOARDROOM CIGAR LOUNGE: https://bit.ly/4pzLEXj 🇰 KALSHI: http://kalshi.com/pbd SUBSCRIBE TO: @VALUETAINMENT @ValuetainmentComedy ABOUT US: Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls.

• 0:14Speaker 00

  My handshake is better than anything I ever signed, right here.

• 0:18Speaker 01

  You are a one of one?

• 0:19Speaker 00

  My son's right there. I don't think I've ever said this before.

• 0:27Speaker 02

  No, that's the Saudi nuclear deal.

• 0:28Speaker 01

  Well, I mean, listen, Tom, what you do with your gun is none of my business, but today, listen, we, we, uh, we are officially back. Uh, what, what is that line in the, we're back? What, what movie is, is that Hangover? That's a hangover, sir. We are so back. Independence Day.

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  We're back.

• 0:46Speaker 01

  No.

• 0:46Speaker 03

  He says it when he crashes.

• 0:47Speaker 01

  Okay, I'm thinking about something else then. Uh, anyways, guys, um, some, uh, interesting week we had. The same time Brad Pitt, I don't know if you guys saw the news that came out with Brad Pitt. For his fourth kid officially did something that any father, any man would be devastated. And to see a pattern of this happening four times, you can only think that somebody's behind doing this to Brad Pitt. So we'll talk about that. Obviously the Fauci story, I don't know if you guys are following that or not. Vinny's all over it. We got a bunch of videos to show you. Rand Paul found some, what is it, diary?

• 1:20Speaker 03

  His diary entries, stuff about Peter, that they're.

• 1:23Speaker 01

  He said, read this and delete it. And then the billion dollars for a million dollars.

• 1:28Speaker 03

  Oh, pay for play.

• 1:29Speaker 01

  Pay for play. It's, it's pretty bad. And in two days, I think Fauci's got a date with Rand Paul. Catherine Herridge, who was at, uh, Fox before and CBS before for five years with CBS, said something recently, an article they came out that says China had blackmail on Bidens. And, and which is kind of weird. And then you got the Saudi nuclear deal. Apparently they're only doing, they're calling it the civil nuclear deal because of Iran. And it's only for medical and, uh, energy use only. And, and a lot of people are saying, come on, that's, no one believes that it's not enrichment. And obviously tragic attack that happened in Berlin and Paris and, uh, with statements of aloha, but I think, and then obviously liberals are defending saying, wait a minute, stop picking on these guys.

• 2:13Speaker 03

  Yeah, okay.

• 2:14Speaker 01

  You know, the stabbings, we'll get into both of these stories devastating on one case, I think, you know, one kill, 29 injured and another case, we'll get into both of them. LeBron James officially is going to the 76ers. Of course, he would never go to a team to chase a ring as if that team has a NBA finals MVP. Cause Jalen, oh, Jalen Brown did win an NBA finals MVP and he would never go to a team that also has another NBA MVP, Joel, Joel, okay, Joel Embiid, oh no, he would never ring chase. I mean, you know, Derek Fisher said, you don't ring chase when you go anywhere and they win. And it's just a bunch of things that we'll get into with that with LeBron. And there's a, a, a journalist that said, his team approached the Knicks. And wait till you hear what the Knicks had to say.

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  Elon did an interview, I thought it was a phenomenal interview Elon did recently, breaking down common sense. And then last but not least, this, this lucky guy, a Palmer lucky guy is crushing it, creating a company called Anduril, you know, valuation of a hundred billion dollars that's creating, you know, we're running out of interceptors. You keep hearing about these stories about missiles. He's building it in car factories, cheaper, faster. And trust me, this is very important for the national security of America, uh, for us to pay close attention to. And then we got a few other stories that we'll get into, depending on the time that we have. Gang, last thing, today's Monday, Wednesday, July 29th. Those of you guys that are going to the vault, the networking event that happened here for CEOs and, and founders, you'll get a tour from Tom or myself that'll show you the entire

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  operation. And then executives, you'll get a tour of the people who are, uh, bought executives, our executives will give you a tour of it. And then Platinum in general, you'll get a chance to network for two hours. I'm getting so many messages, can I come, can I come? Get a ticket, go to the vault, commit to it. It'll be people that are going to the vault to network from now. So before they go to the event, they already have a relationship established with each other. If you don't remember what happened last year, I want to show you how this went last year. Here's a 30 second clip of what last year's networking event going into the vault conference, five weeks away, looked like, go for it.

• 4:46Speaker 01

  All right, there you go. Again, last chance, if you want to be at the networking event, go to Vault 2020. There's so many of you that are watching this saying, Pat, I'm gonna go. Well then commit already, Vault2026.com. Come to the networking event, then let's spend a few days together and, uh, go into Las Vegas, picking up new strategies, network, all this other stuff, relationships, take your business and your life to the next level. With that being said, let's get into the first story. And the first story is, you know, you know, when you want a blanket immunity and you get a pardon, which is a what preemptive, what do they call it where it's a?

• 5:19Speaker 03

  He wanted clemency for 10 years and then he wanted blanket pardon, Pat, for, forever.

• 5:24Speaker 01

  Fauci.

• 5:24Speaker 03

  And you're a doctor.

• 5:25Speaker 01

  Right, and you're a doctor. And this story comes out and you're like, wait, are they not done with Fauci? Nope, more stuff coming out. And this Fauci story is very, very interesting. Trying to see, it says page five and six, is it on addendum or is it on the regular things? It says to me, page five and six.

• 5:43Speaker 02

  Addendum five.

• 5:44Speaker 01

  Addendum five. Okay, let me read this to you folks. Here we go. Inside Fauci's private diary, okay? What he wrote about Trump, TV personalities and celebrities. And here's what it looks like. Newly released diary entries by Fauci, offer an unfiltered look at what the nation's top infectious disease expert thought of politicians, television personalities and celebrities during the COVID-19 pandemic, released by Senate Homeland Security Committee Chairman Rand Paul. The diaries chronicle, chronicle, uh, chronicle Fauci's day to day role through meetings, phone calls, personal observations, early interest portray warm working relationship with Trump. Fauci wrote that Trump repeatedly directed questions to him during the White House meeting,

• 6:27Speaker 01

  called him the smartest person in the world, told him we are counting on you, and later appeared enamored with him at Fauci's national profile review. CNN anchor Jake Tapper appears repeatedly with Fauci's documenting phone calls, text exchanges. There are some moments where he says to, you know, uh, and Wolf Blitzer had a joke, no one would blame Fauci if he had told Jordan to go F himself. The diary also features Julia Roberts, who hosted Fauci on Instagram Live and sent him flowers. Anyways, Vinny, what was the most shocking things you found in the Fauci diary that came out?

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  Well, one of the main ones, Pat, he was, and Humberto, check in your Slack. He, uh, there was an email exchange between Barton Hayes from Duke University, Pat. He's a longtime scientific collaborator and one of the largest individual recipients of the NIAID funding under Fauci's leadership. Pat, there's an email exchange where Haynes replies, you bet, let's do it. Where he's confirming that Fauci is going to get the Shaw Prize in life science for medicine. So basically, uh, and for you guys that don't know, NIAID is National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases. So Pat, there's a list of grants and Humberto, I sent you the screenshot as well, Pat. There's all these grants, all this money. So basically it's a pay for play, saying like, hey, listen, I'll give you all this

• 7:43Speaker 03

  millions, I'll give you, it was, it was like 1.1 billion dollars of donations, Pat. And Fauci is like saying, just do me a favor. I'm going to give you guys all this money, nominate me for these awards, nominate me for these, for these prizes, which is absolutely ridiculous, Pat. It's absolutely ridiculous. And in one of his, um, and on his diaries, Pat, he loved himself. He was bragging about the president, he was like, I'm the most popular person here, I'm the most popular person there. And if you can't.

• 8:09Speaker 01

  How did Rand Paul get a hold of these diaries?

• 8:11Speaker 03

  That's, uh, they, something released, uh, let me find out. He released hundreds of pages of emails exposing what he just, he just asked for, Pat. Cause not while President Trump released all the fires, he declassified everything. I don't know why his diary, I don't know how the heck they got a hold of his diary. But basically, Pat, it was a pay for play. And then during this entire time, he's bragging about the, you know, look at me and the stock market dropped this many points. And he's bragging about the power that he has and the control that he has. And it got to his head because he became an egomaniac, Pat. And if you can show Humberto, show, because he's going in front of Congress on Wednesday, the photo of him in the InStyle magazine, could you show that photo? And this is, like, this is what these people made him, look, look at, that's a doctor,

• 8:55Speaker 03

  InStyle, and look at the bottom, Dr. Fauci. So on Wednesday, he's going to go in front of Congress, Pat. But at the end of the day, what is going to happen? The blanket pardon is a blanket pardon. Is this just to embarrass him? Is this just to come out there and embarrass him? And the most, the biggest thing, and Humberto, I send this to you too. Uh, in his, in his diary, he says privately, he put COVID's fatality rate at 0.2 to 0.3%. And then under oath, a couple of weeks later, he told Congress, it was 10 times worse than the flu. Okay, and here's the timeline, February 8th, 2020, in his diary, he said case fatality rate is no more, it's point two to 3%. And then on March 10th, he went on Sean Hannity and he said, the mortality rate is about

• 9:39Speaker 03

  two to 2.5%. Uh, it's probably lower than that, closer to 1%, but even if it's 1%, that's 10 times more lethal than the seasonal flu. And then March 11th, he went in front of Congress and he stated the fatality rate is overall about 3%. Mind you, he keeps going up, Pat. He said, if you count all the cases as asymptomatic infection, this probably brings the mortality down to 1%, which means it's 10 times more deadly than seasonal flu. So he's saying something to himself in his diary, which is way, way lower, but in front of the world, he's saying that it's, it's worth. And then on March 27th, on the Daily Show, he said, the mortality of this is about 10 times the flu, at least 1%. But in his, so in his journal, it's point 2% pound, which is huge. Then he tells the public over and over, it's three to five times higher. And why?

• 10:24Speaker 03

  Why is he doing that? So my thing is on Wednesday, I hope Rand Paul digs into him, but at the end of the day, nothing's going to happen, Pat, he's untouchable.

• 10:31Speaker 01

  I want to show you two clips, folks. This is one clip of Rand Paul and then I want to show you one clip of Batya Sangar, who was interviewing him, where you just have to see it to see the contradiction in what he's saying. Here's Rand Paul, go for it.

• 10:44Speaker 04

  Is it too vague to say? I'm gonna prosecute you for, not prosecute you and pardon you for anything you did in the last 10 years. I think there's a possibility the court says that's vague and not specific, and you can't prosecute, give people some kind of pardon for everything, and over such a long period of time. I think there's a chance we'd win that. I think it ought to be fought. We have two clear-cut cases against him, lying to Congress, which is a felony, but also destroying public records. We now have emails that he distributed to Francis Collins and others, saying, hey, read this and then destroy it. That is against the law. You're not allowed to do that in the executive branch. It's clear. You know, his only argument is, oh, it wasn't about government, and it clearly was, and I think a jury would decide.

• 11:29Speaker 04

  So I still would prosecute him. Is it too vague to say-

• 11:32Speaker 01

  You can pause it right there. So, look, I mean, Rand Paul seems like he's determined he's gonna go after him. He doesn't sound like he's gonna slow down and not do anything here. Tom, based on what Rand Paul is saying, what is the likelihood that something happens to Fauci?

• 11:45Speaker 02

  Yeah, I'm gonna step away from Fauci, and I'm gonna go to process, because I think it's underneath the question you're asking. So, what Rand Paul's trying to do is what we do at the grand jury system. What is a grand jury? A private jury in a private courtroom, where we're presented evidence that goes back and forth. So they'll say, the evidence was sent to a grand jury, and then, remember, you'll hear this, the grand jury handed down the indictment. So, back to the Attorney General or the prosecutor, and what Rand Paul is trying to do is to take the hearing in Congress, almost like a grand jury, to show such incontrovertible truth, to then crack the veil that the pardon was too general

• 12:28Speaker 02

  and the crimes are too great. And that's what Rand Paul's trying to do, and I think, I'm at 20% and rising, but it's a big 80% to get to the top, that Rand Paul would be successful. But that's what he's trying to do. He's not trying to show that Fauci was guilty. We all know his character, all that. He's trying to show the specific things to get people to say, we should crack the veil on this, that pardon was too vague and too broad, we should go after this. Rand Paul, I think, is being very, very smart in doing like a grand jury methodology here.

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  So, I want you to see this. That's a good point, Tom, to see if, and 20 is a good number right now. A lot of people like that number being 20. A lot of people's lives were devastated during COVID, and if this guy had all the power, and he uses power in the wrong way, I mean, we gotta hold him accountable. By the way, I want you to watch this. So, this is important, because in the diary, he states specifically on the fact that he had a call with governors telling them to shut down schools. And that's March 15th, 2020 of the diary, but here, July 26th of 2022, exactly roughly four years ago, he said he never recommended locking anything down. I want you to watch this, because it's only 22 seconds. Go for it.

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  And this is just four months later?

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  Not allowed to do that in the executive branch. Pause it. Go top.

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  It's clear. It's two years later, not four months later, two years later. Go back and play it again. Go for it.

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• 16:02Speaker 10

  I wonder if you would recommend locking down schools-

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  You have another clip playing on Rand Paul in the background, if you guys can-

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  Not prosecute you and pardon you for anything you did in the last 10 years.

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  Yeah, right there. Go for it. Okay, let's do this again. Go for it. Watch this.

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  Over again.

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  Go back. Go back again.

• 16:20Speaker 04

  Well, you know, again, it's-

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  There you go. Go for it.

• 16:23Speaker 10

  I wonder if you would recommend locking down schools if you had to do it all over again?

• 16:29Speaker 11

  Well, you know, again, it's, first of all, I didn't recommend locking anything down. You're asking me questions. You're talking about, the CDC is the public health agency that uses their epidemiologists and their science-based approach to make recommendations.

• 16:45Speaker 10

  I wonder if you would recommend-

• 16:46Speaker 01

  So, okay, so pause. In other words, I didn't recommend anything about locking schools down. Now, go to the diary if you can. It's right next to it. If you can just go to it, no, it's on the same tweet. If you can, if you can come out of the tweet, you'll see there is a, right there. Click on that right there, the article, and watch this. Spoke to Bill de Blasio today, and convinced him, based on what I was saying publicly in my conversation tonight, to close the New York City schools. I went on to tell him he should close the bars and restaurants as well, at a similar call with Ann O'Leary, the COS of Gavin Newsom of California, and said that, based on my TV appearance today and yesterday, the governor has decided to close schools in California, as well as the bars and restaurants.

• 17:29Speaker 02

  That's Chief of Staff for Gavin.

• 17:30Speaker 01

  There you go. March 16, 2020. Came out with the guidelines that reflected my pushing for a more aggressive mitigation 15-day strategy. Stay away from bars, restaurants, theaters, sporting events. If a community has a community spread close to bars. So you see the balance here of what's happening. So a lot of these contradictions are getting caught up, Vinny. How do you process this when you see it?

• 17:52Speaker 03

  Well, Pat, I'm-

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  And Adam, I'm gonna come to you right next.

• 17:54Speaker 03

  From everything that I'm seeing with him, Pat, like, guys, this is just the facts. He lied about the masks, okay? I have two videos that I've saved on my phone forever, Pat, where he goes, they don't, they don't work. And then he kept pushing it that they do work, then he even told people to triple it up, okay? Liar. Number two, social distancing. When they asked him, they go, you said social distancing. He goes, I never said it. They go, then where'd it come from? He goes, it just appeared out of nowhere, but he kept pushing it, okay? And then, Pat, the myocarditis, I want, this is what drives me bananas. I don't have any children, but if you're out there and you're listening to this, and you have kids, and you were lied by this doctor, okay, that was told to be America's sweetheart, and they all were glazing and worshiping this guy, from Chris Cuomo to every single

• 18:36Speaker 03

  one, who's his buddy. This is his friend. Now he has long COVID because of this guy. I want people to understand, there was a study, 1.7 million children were found that myocarditis and pericarditis only appeared in children who received COVID mRNA vaccines. Not a single, not one, let me say this, not one single unvaccinated child in the group suffered from these heart-related problems. So, he lied, he poisoned you, he poisoned the freaking kids. Peter Daszak, who was his, who was buddy, he was coming back from China in 2021. Joe Biden's FBI told the Department of Homeland Security, don't stop him. Pat, they were, they were going to grab him, they were gonna check his phones, they were gonna check his, everything about him, Pat. He was in China at the Wuhan lab. They

• 19:20Speaker 03

  wanted to question him. Biden's FBI said, leave him alone, and they didn't do nothing with him. So when you take a step back and look at this, Pat, with the relationships with China, with the Bidens, with the black men that we're gonna get into, this seems to me like during an election year, during Trump's election year, besides China, Pat, doing the BLM stuff and paying for all this crazy stuff and the spying, they released a freaking disease, they had the backing of the number-one doctor who was trusted by everybody, that was worshiped, they sold masks, they sold this vaccine, and the fact that even the people on the left, Pat, aren't as mad as we are, it drives me crazy. Talk about Israel, talk about the war, talk about Iran, I get it, I get it. But this, from Fauci's, the real Dr. Fauci, Pat, with RFK, this guy is a freaking, is a mass murderer.

• 20:05Speaker 03

  If you think about it, Pat, he's been killing people for how long? And he's gonna get away with it?

• 20:09Speaker 01

  Allegedly. I mean, you gotta realize, I don't know if it's gonna be like that, but indirectly, his policies led to a lot of people-

• 20:13Speaker 03

  People dying.

• 20:14Speaker 01

  Yes. His policy, a lot of people are speculating-

• 20:16Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 20:17Speaker 01

  That that's what the conversation is. Adam, your thoughts on this?

• 20:21Speaker 12

  Well, I totally appreciate Vinnie's passion on this because Vinnie's been talking about this forever. The issue I have with Fauci is one word that Vinnie brought up, and that's ego. Vinnie called him an egomaniac. It would seem that what was the most important to him was this celebrity factor. Right? He talks about getting flowers from Julia Roberts and having communication with all these celebrities. Steph Curry, Trevor Noah, Anna Wintor from Vogue, Sean Penn, Man Damon, even Lil Wayne, right? And the outcome of this is this massive ego, which could potentially turn into an egomaniac. You know, they say oftentimes your ego is not your amigo.

• 21:05Speaker 12

  And rather than maybe, maybe admitting some wrongdoing, he doubles down. So right now, in my opinion, he is the third most famous diary of all time. Number one being the diary of Anne Frank highlighting the Nazi Germany disgusting activity that was going on. And then number two, which PBD, you'll appreciate this one, was meditations from Marcus Aurelius. And this is my final point. What did Marcus Aurelius do? What was he known for? He had a servant do what, PBD? Follow him around when he was the emperor of Rome, saying, remember, you are just a man. I think the problem that a lot of people have with Fauci is that he viewed himself as more than a man, more than the CDC director, as this man who controlled America.

• 21:51Speaker 12

  And America unfortunately was worse off because of some of his decisions.

• 21:56Speaker 01

  Yeah, Tom, final thoughts I'll give to you and I'll move on.

• 21:58Speaker 02

  Well, I think there's another diary in there and it's in the Biden family, but we won't go there.

• 22:04Speaker 02

  I just, I agree.

• 22:06Speaker 01

  Let's just actually go into that, if you're saying that. So Catherine Herridge, right? Catherine Herridge is doing a report. And she comes out again, Catherine Herridge, credible individual, she was at CBS for many years. And she left to roll as chief intelligence correspondent at Fox and went and joined CBS for five years. And a report came out, I don't know if you guys have this or not, to go through it. Uh, there's a report that came out, you guys have that in the back because I know you said there's an article on it. Vinnie, are you following this one?

• 22:35Speaker 03

  I'm following it, Pat. So she reviewed, she reviewed all these documents that were released by President Trump's administration. And she found evidence that China was targeting the Biden family. And according to her, records discuss China collecting what they called black materials. Okay, which is compromising information used for blackmail, obviously. She says one of those records was prepared for the president's daily brief and led her to conclude, it was probably about the Biden family. And she also highlighted internal intelligence communications showing concerns about how the information on Chinese election interference was handled because they knew that they were doing it, obviously. And one message reportedly said officials had deliberately massaged, which is hilarious, a president's daily brief to avoid directly linking China to her.

• 23:20Speaker 03

  And she also says, Pat, uh, the records were publicly made available, but all the mainstream media, all the fake news media never took time to review it. And she argues if reporters had simply spent a couple of hours reading the declassified docs, they'd have found some information. Now, Pat, one obvious question people are asking is these black materials, could they have involved Hunter Biden? Like, we know he traveled to China with the vice president, Joe Biden, in 2013. We know that Hunter's laptop contained how much compromising videos and emails. And allegedly there was young Chinese girls in all these freaking, uh, the majority of these freaking videos. Then there was emails discussing Chinese business deals that referred to, Tom, remember what they referred to Joe Biden as?

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  The big guy.

• 24:02Speaker 03

  The big guy.

• 24:02Speaker 02

  And a percent for the big guy.

• 24:03Speaker 03

  That percent, 10% for the big guy. A former business associates have claimed that Joe Biden was the big guy. And but Chinese intelligence was collecting compromising information on political connected Americans. So I think it's fair to ask, was Hunter one of those people? And at the end of the day, who else did, uh, Joe Biden, well, technically, from the book that you were reading, Pat, Hunter was basically hooking up all the pardons at the end because his dad was incapacitated. Every single person in the Hunter, I'm sorry, Joe Biden family was pardoned as well. Even like, what, 10, 12 year olds, 13 year olds, because they were all had accounts linked to these people, Pat. So I don't know. I think it's very, very suspect.

• 24:40Speaker 01

  Can we play this clip? Let's watch this clip with Catherine Herridge. Go for it.

• 24:44Speaker 13

  What we saw in the release of the records, which I'm afraid, I think in the media or legacy media, there was kind of a willful blindness. They didn't want to look at the records. All you had to do was spend a couple of hours. I found these records, which are talking about blackmail by China. It was for President Biden's daily brief. I can conclude, I think, that it was probably about targeting his family. When that kind of information is not receiving, uh, reaching a decision maker, ultimately, the United States and the American people are the losers. Right. And I think that's what people need to be focused on. And it's dangerous as well. Yeah, exactly. Because they're not getting into it.

• 25:19Speaker 01

  Tom. So this is wild. In these documents.

• 25:23Speaker 02

  So I didn't know if there was another one playing there. So here's what I thought when I saw this. There's one of two things that happens. You're protecting one guy, which is your guy. Like when you have teams in college and one player of the team does something really horrifying and it could jeopardize things, but he's the quarterback, so we protect him. You're either protecting one guy or you're protecting everybody. And in the case of Washington and given China and China's infiltration and Eric Swalwell and things like this, I think they were protecting everybody. I think they were like, wait a minute. If this goes this way, and this is my conclusion, my opinion, wow, hang on.

• 26:06Speaker 02

  If we upend Biden on China, you know, I'm with the defense group over here, we're over here. Then do we lose power? Do we lose the White House? And that's what Catherine Herridge said. It was about Democrats, other documents clearly showed that Democrats were concerned about keeping power in the upcoming election. What a surprise. You want to protect your big guy because you're protecting power? Or worse, you're protecting everybody. And that's, that's the old fraternity drinking scandal. You know, the cops grab one of your buddies on the driveway walking in with beer. And you either protect that guy, but if you let him get hung by the police, then he says, everybody in that fraternity house I'm with has got beer and, uh, coeds in there.

• 26:51Speaker 02

  Then everybody's screwed. And I think this is a case of the system, Pat. The system was protecting the system because they could not let this sort of stuff go. And therefore, all of the media gets it from all angles, don't run with this. Don't do it.

• 27:09Speaker 01

  Adam.

• 27:11Speaker 12

  Yeah, this, this ultimately just comes down to one thing is that, you know, unfortunately, a lot of our friends on the left are obsessed with only one thing, and that is power. So let's just state some facts here. Number one, Catherine Herridge, if you don't know her name, one of the most trusted, credible journalists in media, no doubt. The second thing is this, you know, they say when you point the finger, you have one pointing that way, but three pointing back at you. Everything they accused Trump of, they were likely maybe doing it themselves. The, look at this example, the Putin puppet thing, are you kidding me? Whereas in reality, what was going on with Biden?

• 27:52Speaker 12

  And yes, a lot of us fell, fell for it. Yeah, Biden's a here, he's a good guy. He's only to take over. Well, we don't fully realize and recognize, I guess, me for sure, they want power. Even when, when Biden just was completely embarrassed himself on that debate stage. What did Jill Biden say? You answered all the questions, Joe. Well, you know, what do they say, um, uh, what the, uh, about power? Uh, the, what's the famous quote about power? Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely. The MSM, all the mainstream media, the FBI, they see where they're doing everything in their possibility

• 28:31Speaker 12

  and everything in their power to shield Biden from any potential wrongdoing with whatever what China was going on. Because they're obsessed with power. That's my take on this.

• 28:40Speaker 03

  So Pat, but what, how would you, like, from what I've seen in the past three weeks since we've been together? And I've been like, China is emerging and Adam has been saying it for a while, but they are, every, they are implicated in all this stuff, Pat, from Fauci to, you know, lying to blackmailing and everything. How, what, how would you respond as a president to what they're doing and what they've been doing? Because it all started once Trump had held them accountable for trade and tariffs and everything. All of a sudden, in an election year, COVID came out. And from the looks of it, all these other people, the Fauchis, all the Dasacs are all in cahoots, all the blackmail, all the everything. How would you respond to that?

• 29:19Speaker 01

  How do you, how do you think Hunter Biden is doing? What do you, because his PR rep right now is Hunter Biden going around talking to people and saying, hey.

• 29:26Speaker 03

  Hunter Biden is kicking butt right now.

• 29:27Speaker 01

  Is he making Joe look good or bad?

• 29:30Speaker 03

  I think he's looking, making him look good, Pat, because he's sticking up for him. And Americans love entertainment. You have an ex crackhead junkie. I don't know if he, hopefully he's not doing anymore, but he's out there and it's, it's entertaining. He just sat down with Nick Fuentes. I didn't, I didn't watch it. I saw little clips. He doesn't care about anything else, Pat. Racism, shootings, murder. I'm sorry, the only thing he's cared about is like, hey, man, you said something racist. Can you take that back?

• 29:54Speaker 01

  Well, look, I mean, the reality, all of this stuff, the average person's watching is saying, what does this mean to me? What does it mean with election going into midterms or 2028? I will tell you a couple of things for us to be paying attention to on what's going on. I don't know if you saw the Mamdani clip, what he said over the weekend, if you want to go to Mamdani's tweet. Mamdani, uh, you know, warning to wealthy New Yorkers about fair share sparks firestorm. You know how he went out there saying, hey, when it comes onto real estate, if you have a second home in New York City worth more than $5 million, check your mailbox when you're back in five boroughs because you've got mail. Today, we send notification to property owners, letting them know that a new, uh, PETA tax is coming soon.

• 30:35Speaker 01

  The best city in the world deserves the best parks, libraries and schools in the world. That's the only possible when we all pay our fair share. Again, this is the language of socialist communist. And I responded and I said, consequences of this policy, more money leaves your state, more jobs leave your state, no incentive for the wealthy to buy property in New York City. Property value drops, more construction workers lose job, realtors lose income. And then Bernie Sanders sends this tweet yesterday. And here's what Bernie had to say. Elon Musk's wealth in 2012, 2 billion. Today, 719 billion. Jeff Bezos, 18.4. Today, 255 billion. Can you go on his tweet before you read mine? Yeah, right there. Zuckerberg's net worth, 17 and a half.

• 31:20Speaker 01

  Today, 212. Federal minimum wage, 2009, 725. Today, 725. And so I responded to him and I said, hey, respectfully, raising the minimum wage helps billionaires. None of these companies pay minimum wage. None of them do. Matter of fact, it'll have 100% impact on small businesses that cannot afford to pay like Fortune 500 companies can. 47% of workers work for small businesses. Socialist policies destroy small businesses. By the way, I looked into it. Do you know how many people, Tom, in America make the 725? How many people? What do you think the number is? I actually was curious to know what that number was.

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• 34:11Speaker 02

  I don't think it's a very big number. We have over 105 people that aren't even working right now.

• 34:15Speaker 01

  105 million.

• 34:17Speaker 02

  105 million not even working. And we've got 300 million in the US. So that leaves about 200 million. I'm gonna, this is just a swag spontaneously, but I would say maybe 10 million people make.

• 34:28Speaker 01

  Tom, 79,000 people only get paid 725 an hour.

• 34:32Speaker 02

  Oh, wow. Because I know you go to In-N-Out Burger. They proudly say 1050.

• 34:36Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 34:37Speaker 02

  But you, but you have to go through training? You have to be a good person? You have to all these things?

• 34:40Speaker 03

  Not to do animal stuff.

• 34:41Speaker 01

  Only 79,000. If you look it up in Grok or ChatGPT, it'll say, you know, 650 or 850, but they're talking about 1099 commission when people reported tips and all that stuff. I'm asking hourly. Only 79,000 people in America last year. According to the Business Bureau, only 79,000 made 725.

• 35:01Speaker 02

  I stand corrected. I was trying to back into like the number of teenagers and things like that.

• 35:06Speaker 01

  And the average age. Guess, guess what the average age is? Guess what the average age is of somebody making 725 an hour? It's a young kid.

• 35:12Speaker 02

  16?

• 35:13Speaker 03

  19, I was gonna say.

• 35:14Speaker 01

  It's not 16 years old, but it's under 25. A big chunk of it is under 25 years old that are making 725. And guess what markets it's in? Rural areas, Arkansas, you know, South Dakota. You're not gonna get no 725 in metropolitan cities. Ain't nobody making 720 unless if they're like a waitress and the way they get paid is that number plus tips and the waitress is the waiter. They're like, yeah, I don't care about that. So, but, but there's a video that's gone viral on X. And I want you to see this clip, folks, because it shows how open independents are to socialism and how open Democrats are to socialism. Watch this video here. Go for it.

• 35:56Speaker 15

  Socialists winning Democratic primaries.

• 35:59Speaker 01

  Look at that.

• 35:59Speaker 15

  Candidates from the far left. And look at this here. Among Democrats, this is that Fox poll, a majority have a favorable view of socialism. Step outside the Democratic Party, it's a totally different world. Look at independents, socialism, deeply unpopular there. So is that a vulnerability for Democrats that would keep them from capitalizing on Trump's obvious weaknesses here? Look more specifically at the two chambers here. Senate side, this, if you're a Democrat, this is the particularly tough one. They need a net gain of four seats to get control of the Senate. Take a look at the map here. How would they get four? Four is their target number. There's, first thing, they can't lose ground. Georgia, New Hampshire, Michigan, Democratic seats. Big primary coming up in Michigan in a few weeks there. They could have general election implications.

• 36:42Speaker 15

  Democrats have to win those just to not lose ground. Then the two Republican seats they think they have the best shot at would be Susan Collins in Maine. Democrats have a new candidate there now. And in North Carolina, where Democrats have nominated the former governor, the very season.

• 36:55Speaker 01

  Okay, so now, when, when you look at this, Tom posted something on Twitter. I just sent it to you guys if you want to pull it up. Look at the East Coast voters and perceptions they have about California. It's bad. Look at this number here. 2020, a Democratic presidential poll. Can you talk about this, Tom?

• 37:10Speaker 02

  Yeah, absolutely. So I, I focused on Gavin Newsom because remember, for a year, Gavin, Gavin, he's our guy. He can't get over 25% and that's the problem. So there's the battle cry. And now, this is the Granite State poll. This was done in New Hampshire. Why was it done in New Hampshire? It's bipartisan and it was done to get us ready for the primary season.

• 37:33Speaker 01

  This is, this is not a Fox poll. I know it says Fox News.

• 37:35Speaker 02

  Fox is reporting on it, but last week, we reported on another non-Fox poll. And this is Fox broadcasting a non-Fox poll. The point is, these are both out there. Take a look now. Picture, Vinnie, picture the stage for the Democrat primary. That's the poll. These are all the people. Pete says I want to run, all this. Pete Buttigieg got some residual from last year. But look at Gavin Newsom. When you go east, Gavin Newsom's numbers go down. And the East Coast perception, perception polls of California, people talk about homelessness, fires, and all that fraud stuff. That's as deep as they go. But East Coast voters have those perceptions of California

• 38:20Speaker 02

  and those are stuck like Velcro to Gavin Newsom. When he goes east, his numbers goes down. And if you look at favorability ratings, he now is net favorable, has gone down. So forget about the polls. The favorability has gone down because they measure that because if your favorability is down, the polls that follow you will usually be even more down. And this is exactly what is happening to Gavin Newsom. Meanwhile, somebody who also had something to say about June 14th, and he turned out to be right about that and the president and what he would be doing on June 14th, told us a, a year ago or more, said, hey, you know, you need to watch out. It's not just that she's photogenic.

• 39:05Speaker 02

  She carries a message and she motivates the base. Forget what you're saying about your feelings about her and is she a policy wonk or not? Patrick said she is a incredible candidate and that's all you have to be. You don't have to be a policy wonk. You don't have to be Rand Paul. You don't have to be Trey Gowdy. You have to be a viable candidate that moves voters. And a year ago, Pat talked about it. And guess what, Pat? Here you go. Guess what? Oh, maybe a VP candidate? No, leading.

• 39:34Speaker 01

  No, no, no, no. She's a lead dog. And the only difference between her and Bernie is she's not gonna drop out. She's not. Bernie dropped out in 2016 and gave it to Hillary Clinton and she's gonna be like, no way. She doesn't fear anybody. And she can prove her point to say, look what my guy is doing in my city and I helped him become famous and his name is Mamdani. Who's Mamdani? Everybody is somebody's person, right? Do you understand what I'm saying? Like, who, who is Mamdani's person? Mamdani is whose person?

• 40:04Speaker 03

  AOC.

• 40:04Speaker 01

  AOC.

• 40:05Speaker 02

  Of course.

• 40:05Speaker 01

  You can say whatever you want. AOC helped Mamdani become, don't get me, not the talent, that's Mamdani. But AOC built up his image into who he is today. So she is becoming a power player. The most important reason why everything I showed you, the Mamdani clip of him taxing people, the Bernie Sanders, and then the video of socialism, Democrats are open to the idea of socialism. Independents are not. The question becomes, that'll benefit them in the primary. I just don't know how it's gonna benefit them in the general election because they're gonna need independents. I don't think they're gonna get them. I just don't think they're gonna get them. I think that's gonna be a problem. Adam, your thoughts on this?

• 40:43Speaker 12

  Well, you know, they famously said in the movie Wall Street, greed is good, right? But everyone's a little bit greedy. The capitalists are greedy because they want to earn and keep the money that they've made. Whereas the communists are greedy because they want to tax and seize and they pretend that it's noble. Look at me, we're gonna choose to do way better things with you, with your money. But America, if you want to look at America as a $30 trillion economy, who do you want actually leading the economy? Do you want a capitalist who knows what he's doing? Who's run businesses before? C-suite executives that actually know how to budget and understand fiscal prudence? Or do you want some slick, talking, smiling, wheeling and dealing person who's never run a business in their life?

• 41:26Speaker 12

  And they always say, well, working people, working people. My comrades were all working people. I don't want regular, minimum wage, working people running our economy. Are you kidding me? Next thing you know, you know, they say, well, I want the, well, the, next thing you know, the inmates are gonna be running the asylum or the prisoners are gonna be running the prisons. And then maybe let's have the kids run the schools. To me, it's all far-fetched. Let's have the capitalists, the people that know how to build businesses, run the businesses and work all you want. Whether it's minimum wage, hopefully you're better than that and you're improving in your life and you're working your way up. But the last thing we need are socialists and communists running our American economy because we've seen a million different examples of why it fails. So let's use smart.

• 42:09Speaker 01

  Well, Adam, you're saying that, but I want you to know. I want you to watch this. You were there when we were to Jubilee. This video popped up on Wall Street Bets. I just want you to see the interaction of what they think. Go ahead.

• 42:21Speaker 16

  Can you survive, would you like to live off $7.23 a second hour?

• 42:25Speaker 01

  I used to work for 425 at Haagen-Dazs.

• 42:28Speaker 16

  Right.

• 42:28Speaker 01

  Then I went to work at Burger King for 475.

• 42:31Speaker 16

  And how much do you make now?

• 42:32Speaker 01

  Then I went to, I make millions today.

• 42:34Speaker 16

  Right, and that's why you like capitalism, because we're not all making that. And that's my point, a millionaire is critiquing people in poverty and saying, you should work harder, you should, you should work, you know, you can be me, we can't all be you.

• 42:45Speaker 01

  My hope is that you believe you can change and improve, that you believe you can upgrade yourself. That's my belief.

• 42:52Speaker 16

  It's very, you know what, that's what rich people like, you want to keep telling us. You can be just like me, do you want to be like me? If you work hard enough to be like me, it's not very realistic.

• 43:00Speaker 01

  It's actually, you wouldn't be able to be like me, because you wouldn't work that hard. Would you work that hard?

• 43:04Speaker 16

  You don't, I'm not gonna tell, I have to answer that.

• 43:06Speaker 01

  If, if you don't choose to.

• 43:08Speaker 16

  I don't have to measure my, like, I don't have to measure my work ethic to be worthy.

• 43:13Speaker 02

  By the way, I don't have to measure my work ethic to be worthy.

• 43:16Speaker 01

  Guys, millions of people agree with her.

• 43:19Speaker 03

  Absolutely.

• 43:20Speaker 01

  Millions of people think it's not their fault, it's somebody else's fault. And by the way, to me, it's also, if you read the book Regime Change, one of the things in the book Regime Change, which is actually a very good book to read, it's already sold a half a million copies, they talk about the one issue that Republicans are getting arrogant about, and they cannot, and that's affordability. I'm gonna keep saying this over and over again, find a way to eliminate taxes for anybody under the age of 30, no federal income tax until you turn 30 years old for you to have a house, have kids, do all of that. I think, I think they do need to pay attention to affordability, because I think millions of people are sitting there saying, Republicans don't care about me, and they gotta find a better messaging. I do believe that. I think Rubio, JD, whoever's gonna be on the other side's gotta have a better argument for it. Adam, I think you wanna say something?

• 44:04Speaker 12

  Yeah, I just, I wanna end with a little bit of optimism, because I think, as that poll shows, I think the average American is way smarter than these highly educated, victim mentality college kids. So yes, the DSA has infected the Democratic Party, and I hope they figure it out, but that poll just showed that 70-plus percent of America want nothing to do with socialism, communism, none of that, so playing the victim will not work out for long.

• 44:32Speaker 01

  How many million-dollar earners you think live in New York City? How many Jews you think live in New York City? How many business owners you think live in New York City? How many billionaires you think live in New York City? A democratic socialist Islamist won the mayoral race. So, just, just letting you know, I mean, you.

• 44:49Speaker 03

  And can I add to what you're saying too?

• 44:51Speaker 12

  And PBD, and PBD, one thing real quick, you're absolutely right, and that's why I never try to attack Mam Donnie, or even AOC, all that much, because it's not them, they're the poster child, it's the people that are voting for them, that we need to convince, you need to be smarter, you need to be better, but there is a massive problem.

• 45:07Speaker 03

  And just to let you know, do you know how many people own second homes in New York City valued over 5 million?

• 45:12Speaker 01

  How many?

• 45:13Speaker 03

  13,000. So his Pierre de Théor tax is gonna seize $500 million a year from them, and that's how cash gets handed straight to illegals, and that's why, guys, this has been a brilliant Democrat ploy, Pat, for the, for the four years under Biden, import all the illegals, fight tooth and nail, anybody that even tries to stop or close the border, then the illegals come in here, now you make it legal for them to vote, and it's actually illegal to ask them for IDs, especially in California, and then you promise them free stuff. That is it, Adam, and I do blame, by the way, all the, they're, they're useful idiots, but they're, they're very, very, they're aware of what they're doing, the AOCs and the Mam Donnies, those are the, he, he's the Trojan horse of this country, and Adam, and where's the biggest population?

• 45:57Speaker 03

  You're, you're in Israel, the most Jewish people are where? Where you're at? Where's number two? New York City, okay? He's not, he's not, he's making everybody with money leave, and Pat, my question, I think I ask you this, what, what's gonna happen with all the rich people leave? Where's he gonna get all this money from? Where? Where, where, where? The middle class. All your taxes are gonna go up, all your city services are gonna get cut, because there's not enough revenue and fees, all the fines are gonna go up, everything's gonna happen, the businesses are gonna leave, and that's what, he's gonna bank, bankrupt that city, and it's coming, and, and to act like, well, and I'm, Adam, I love your hope, the future does look bright, because I think America and God's gonna, gotta watch us, we have to do our part, but it's, you're not, you're not gonna slow that down, and he's right about the affordability.

• 46:40Speaker 03

  If those young people can't afford anything, you know what they're gonna do? They're gonna start hearing the whispers, oh, what's that guy saying? Oh, free stuff? Oh, I like that, oh, AOC's with him? I'm gonna vote for them.

• 46:50Speaker 02

  Well, you know, I was decoding the emotional response, and I was looking at some things over the weekend, and check this out, the threading of a socialist message, Pat, you understand messaging, I mean, you teach on this, check this out, Finney, you have a right to be upset, number one, it's not your fault, I will get revenge. That is the three threads of the socialist message, whether they're talking about a bus.

• 47:14Speaker 01

  Very effective.

• 47:15Speaker 03

  A bus.

• 47:15Speaker 02

  Very effective. It's the emotional response.

• 47:17Speaker 01

  Very effective.

• 47:17Speaker 02

  Hey, you have a right to be upset, stop, stop, stop, listen to me.

• 47:20Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 47:21Speaker 02

  You have a right to be upset, it's not your fault, I will hurt them and get revenge. Now, along the way, you may promise to make the subways free, or make the buses free, and things like that.

• 47:30Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 47:30Speaker 02

  But the threading of the socialist message is the movement of the mob.

• 47:34Speaker 01

  It's gonna work with a percent. By the way, the biggest thing that's disappointing, it's, it said 52% of Democrats are open to socialism.

• 47:43Speaker 03

  Jeez.

• 47:44Speaker 01

  It does mean 48% are not, but it is saying 52% are.

• 47:47Speaker 03

  Over half.

• 47:48Speaker 01

  That's right, too, it's, so, it is something they have to be thinking about. Let me get to the next story. So Saudi nuclear deal, a lot of talks on this, on, around July 23rd, Energy Secretary Chris Wright and Saudi Arabia signed a 30-year, 1, 2, 3 civilian nuclear cooperation agreement, plus a bilateral safeguards agreement that prioritized US companies for Saudi nuclear infrastructure development, and could allow uranium enrichment facility, after two-year joint study, if the US rejects enrichment, Saudi would be barred from independent or third-party enrichment for 10 years, and some reports, President Trump subsequently stated the deal is conditional on Saudi joining the Abraham Accords, normalizing relations

• 48:28Speaker 01

  with Israel, and that it involves no enrichment of material is for non-military use, the deal goes to Congress for review. Republicans are saying, historically, you know, this is, you know, deal advances US commercial interests, jobs, and supply chains, keeps China and Russia Saudi out of Saudi nuclear development, upholds non-proliferation standards with safeguards and leverages the Abraham Accords. Democrats are saying, risks a regional nuclear arm raise, especially given Saudi's statements about matching Iran if needed, it falls short of the gold standard, so the debate's going on there, Tom, where do you stand with this?

• 49:05Speaker 02

  Well, I'll tell you what happened, this was unfortunately, kind of a cluster. Apparently, Energy Secretary Chris Wright, Pat, is very interesting, he was told, hey, you're signing the agreement with Prince, pronounce this for me, Pat, Abdulaziz, is my pronouncing that right?

• 49:21Speaker 01

  Pretty good.

• 49:21Speaker 03

  Nice.

• 49:22Speaker 02

  So, you're, so Chris Wright and him signed it over the weekend, but they said, don't release it till Wednesday, that's when we're all gonna talk about it. The White House went berserk, because what happened was Chris Wright announced it, and they're like, wait a minute, you're supposed to wait till Wednesday. Then, there was criticism of it on a couple conservative outlets, that set the president off, that Trump got upset, now wait a minute, I'm catching friendly fire here, you weren't supposed to release this until Wednesday, what are you doing? And the president gets cornered, and then the president says, hang on, this, remember, there's no enrichment, and they have to recognize the Abraham Accords. Meanwhile, the Saudis said, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, we were gonna recognize certain

• 50:06Speaker 02

  things with Israel, we didn't sign on to the Abraham Accords as part of this. Then Chris Wright backtracks and says, wait, what's going on here? And then, now congressional staffers in the White House are in this dust. So, this was kind of a cluster, the way it went out, and if the Saudis are signing on to the Abraham Accords, okay, that's a good thing, but I, I'm wondering what all this is, and, and also, for 30 years, we promised not to enrich, who are you fooling? I mean, I'm not buying that, I am not buying that at all.

• 50:40Speaker 01

  Okay, Tom, who's happy, who's not happy, who's concerned?

• 50:42Speaker 02

  Um, I think the president is not happy the way it happened, because he's got policy, he's got negotiators over there, he's trying to work, and Chris Wright got out ahead of everybody, and the president has a right to be upset if Chris Wright, you know, leaked it early, so he's upset. Conservatives are upset, because they wanna know, they're like, wait a minute, why would we, I mean, you've got your hardliners, they're saying, why would we give anybody in the Middle East, you know, permission to do this, but not that? You know, so, no, we don't like that. And then, you've got the, the liberals who are out there, who are upset that you're forcing Saudi to recognize Israel, and they don't like Israel.

• 51:27Speaker 02

  So, there's enough for everybody to be upset over the weekend.

• 51:30Speaker 01

  Do you think Saudi, do you think Israel is happy about this, or you think Israel's not? Do you think Israel's sitting there saying, we like this, or we don't?

• 51:37Speaker 02

  I don't think Israel likes anything that allows Saudi to take an inch of progress toward the word nuclear.

• 51:43Speaker 01

  Tell me why. And how different is their relationship towards Saudi getting it versus Iran? Is it 1-2-1, or is it very different feeling towards Saudi than Iran?

• 51:53Speaker 02

  Adam, I'm interested in Adam's comment on this, because there's two in the Middle East that, you know, Israel is not friends with, but they have diplomatic stability on a rational basis, as opposed to complete off-the-wagon irrationalism, and it's Saudi and Egypt, they tend to have a little bit more, you know, a little bit more rationalism, even though everybody in the Middle East hates them.

• 52:18Speaker 01

  Adam, thoughts?

• 52:50Speaker 06

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  Well, in my opinion, Israel potentially views Saudi as a strategic partner, not necessarily their best friend. So yes, you should be skeptical of any Muslim country having these nuclear ambitions. But there is a difference between civilian peaceful purposes and weapons-grade. Remember the movie The Dictator with Sacha Baron Cohen, when he stands up and he says, "We are enriching them uranium for peaceful purpose." And he kind of laughs, because he knows that it's a joke. But if you study what's going on in Iran right now, there's three different levels of nuclear weapons. And I'm hardly a nuclear physicist, even though I'm friends with Tom the Biz Doc Ellsworth, and I've learned a lot.

• 55:16Speaker 12

  There's civilian peaceful purposes, which enrichment is like 3% to 5%. Then you cross this 20% threshold, where it becomes a different level of capability. Iran got up to 60%. 6-0. 90% is when you get to weapons-grade enrichment. And there's been no indications or no examples of someone going close to 60, where they don't get to 90. So when Trump keeps doubling down and says Iran will not have a nuclear weapon, he actually means that. Now, when it comes to really the major factor here, you're talking about the Abraham Accords. What is the Abraham Accords? Everyone talks about Trump, peace through strength. I like to use the word stability through strength, because sometimes you're never

• 56:01Speaker 12

  going to have peace with these people. You just need stability. And if you look at the stability with what's going on in the UAE, or even Bahrain, or Morocco, who are part of the Abraham Accords, what do they have with this US-brokered deal? Number one, they're closer to the US, and they have stability with Israel. So they have innovation, they have their economy, economic ties, they have trade, they have tourism, and security. So at this point, this is my final point, everybody knows Iran is the problem in the region. There's some still haters out there who think Israel's the bad guy, but look at who Iran is bombing at this point. It's all their neighbors. Well, Israel, I'm here in paradise right now, no issues.

• 56:40Speaker 01

  I will tell you, like, this is the perfect storm for Saudi and US. It's the perfect storm, because Saudi's going to go and use this crisis, never let a crisis go to waste. Saudi's going to look at this crisis and say, hey, guys, hey, US, look what they're doing. You got to let me get some nuclear capabilities, because right around me, Turkey is doing it with the help of Russia, because Turkey's already started. They don't have anything yet, but they're doing it with the help of Russia. Egypt's interested, and they're kind of having the conversations. Then you have Saudi is capitalizing off of this, saying, hey, US, and you know what Trump is saying? If you join the Abraham Accords, great. If you don't, you don't. I mean, here's a clip of him saying that. If they don't join the Abraham Accords, I'm not going to approve it.

• 57:23Speaker 01

  Now, what does the president get of getting Saudi to join the Abraham Accords? Go ahead and watch his clip.

• 57:29Speaker 20

  It was always understood, and Chris knew, and Saudi Arabia knew, that if they didn't join the Abraham Accords, the deal's not, I'm not going to do the deal.

• 57:37Speaker 07

  Senator, Senator John...

• 57:39Speaker 20

  Because they understood that in order, you know, subject to Congress and everything else, in order for that deal to go through, they had to sign into the Abraham Accords. And they've had great success, the Abraham Accords have been very successful, but in order to do that, we wanted them, we want them in. We think it's very good. We, it was always...

• 58:00Speaker 01

  So what does this mean? Saudi officially has to recognize Israel, business dealings opens up between the countries. I mean, this would be a big deal for Trump. It would be a, would this be a top-five thing for Trump to be able to get Saudi in the Abraham Accords, to recognize Israel? I think that would be a top-five thing. Definitely top 10.

• 58:20Speaker 12

  In part of Trump's legacy, he would love to have the Abraham Accords expanded, and have normalcy or normalization through countries that have been long feuding and bringing peace to the region. I think that's what his goal is.

• 58:31Speaker 01

  Who else you think is out there watching, saying, let me, let me kind of throw my name in there as well? You think there's anybody else that's looking at the same, us too? You think anybody else...

• 58:39Speaker 12

  What do you mean, other countries potentially?

• 58:40Speaker 01

  Yes. Anybody else says, let me join on this, like, could there be another Middle East, Middle Eastern country that's looking at the same, if Saudi can't get it, let me make the call? Hey, call. Call Whitkoff, call Kushner, call this. You think someone's doing that? I don't know. I think when something like this happens, it's like when you buy one of your kids ice cream, what do the other three say?

• 59:01Speaker 03

  What about me?

• 59:02Speaker 01

  Hey, you bought them ice cream, how about me? Right? It's like a great opportunity to ask for ice cream, and the parent is cornered, right? This may be a good opportunity for others to make the call. By the way, in the book Regime Change, there's a moment where Kushner was furious with Bibi, furious, and he was about to quit, and where they're about to do the deal, and Whitkoff and Kushner don't trust Bibi, they call Susie, and they tell Susie, while saying, hey, if Bibi calls Trump, we feel he's going to call him at the last minute to try to change the deal. If he does, please intercept and call us. Well, Bibi reaches out to Susie to schedule a call with Trump.

• 59:45Speaker 01

  Susie tells Whitkoff and Kushner, Whitkoff and Kushner text President Trump, reach out to the president, and the president gets on the phone with Bibi, and the moment he gets on the phone with Bibi, guess what's the first thing he does? He gets Kushner and Whitkoff on the call, and he says, "I am the only one that's saving your ass right now. You also lost these two Jews on the call. They can't stand you anymore." He goes on 20 minutes tirade over Bibi, according to Regime Change, the New York Times authors that wrote about this. So the tension here, you know, if you don't have Kushner and Whitkoff, you have to realize, like, you are doing something, like, behind closed doors, what percentage of Americans you think think that Bibi, Whitkoff, and Kushner are best of friends? A lot of people. But that's not the case.

• 1:00:29Speaker 01

  New York Times reporter, they don't like Trump. You read the book, that's not a positive book of Trump. New York Times reporter says how much Kushner and Whitkoff, specifically Kushner, was furious with Bibi of what was said there. So to me, I think the winner here, I would put Saudi as winner. I think President Trump's going to be winner. I think Israel's going to be neutral. I think the biggest loser is Iran. And I wonder, I wonder if this makes that area safer, because everyone's kind of sitting around, I will say, I think Erdogan's going to use this opportunity to say, hey, if you're doing that, you know, let me, let me participate, let me accelerate what I'm doing with Russia. I don't know. I just think a lot of people are making calls right now, because there's a lot of opportunities.

• 1:01:14Speaker 02

  Nuclear, you have to remember, nuclear is the ace of spades. It is the Trump card, not Donald Trump. But it is like, you know, the Trump card when you're playing cards. It is because the US, we give weapons to a lot of people, but we don't give nukes. But we, we have built nuclear bases in Germany, Italy, Belgium, Netherlands, and Turkey, those in Europe. And we have also committed, usually through naval airborne nukes, nuclear subs and things, to create a nuclear umbrella for South Korea, Japan, and Australia. And that's where it goes. That's what happens if Saudi, or anyone over there, becomes a nuclear power pet.

• 1:01:57Speaker 02

  It means somebody else provides the nuclear umbrella of defense. And if you don't think the Russians had a hissy fit when we put the nukes in Turkey way back in the day, then you're not paying attention. And so, taking one step at a time, you are now going to create, as they say, a multipolar negotiation. And what the US did with nukes was tried to create that it was only two poles. It was the Russian pole and the US pole. Well, now you've got Russia, China. And so, any steps closer to a nuclear Middle East, this is the reason that Israel is still here, is nuclear deterrence.

• 1:02:42Speaker 12

  PB, I just want to, I want to add one thing, and I agree with Tom. I'm going to make a prediction, and it's going to kind of maybe catch you guys off guard. You know what country I think maybe will join the Abraham Accords that you're simply not suspecting? Another country? Qatar. I think Qatar, out there, everyone understands what Qatar has been doing. But they've been bribing everybody in Europe, they've been double-dealing, and you know what, you know what's worse, potentially, than being a poor, weak country? An incredibly rich, weak country. Because Qatar is sitting there in the middle of everything, and they're, they've been sloshing their money around, throwing it at everyone, and everyone goes, you're double-dealing, you're playing both sides, nobody trusts you.

• 1:03:26Speaker 12

  By the way, Qatar... Do you have an army even? You have nothing. If at any point, people want to go and take over Qatar, they could. But we have a US base there. So why are we so friendly with Qatar when we know that they're double dealing? Because there's a, there's a, there's something going on behind the scenes. Because Qatar, I think people have suspected what they've been doing and understand what they've been doing. Don't be shocked if a year from now, it comes out that Qatar joins the Abraham Accords. Because Trump is using his leverage with Whitkoff and Kushner, who have stuff there.

• 1:03:59Speaker 01

  I think a lot of calls are being made behind. And by the way, you know who else is slowly becoming a hero? You know who is slowly like the weirdest guy that's becoming a hero? And, and winning some popularity points with the president? Weird name, I'm about to read it to you. Zelensky accuses Russia of assisting Iran with satellite imagery of US bases in the Middle East. And watch what he does next. So you read this story like, wait a minute, what? Ukraine versus Zelensky accused Russia of supplying Iran with satellite imagery used to prepare and assess attacks against US military bases in the Middle East. He said Ukraine would share its evidence with Washington. Since the beginning of July, we have recorded active Russian satellite surveillance of Gulf states and American facilities, Zelensky said.

• 1:04:43Speaker 01

  He alleged a clear correlation between Russia's imagery and Iranian strikes conducted afterwards. Zelensky identified four bases reportedly monitored by Russian satellites on July 19th and the 20th. Two in Bahrain and one each in Kuwait and Jordan. The purpose is clear, Russia must be stopped. CBS News previously reported citing multiple sources, including a senior US official that Russia has provided Iran with intelligence about American positions. Now President Trump later contradicted that assessment, saying Putin and Xi had assured him their countries were uninvolved. If they did, it would have been very bad for them. And story comes out just last night that Zelensky,

• 1:05:26Speaker 01

  Ukraine strikes Iranian vessels in Caspian Sea. Tehran accuses Kiev of hostile and criminal act. I wonder how the president feels about this. Okay. So Iran summoned a Ukrainian diplomat in Tehran on Sunday to protest an attack on an Iranian commercial vessel in the Caspian Sea as the war in the Middle East threatened to overlap with the Ukraine conflict. Iran said the attack left one sailor dead and injured several others. The Foreign Ministry complained to Ukraine charge affairs and convened Iran's strong protest over the hostile and criminal act. Zelensky said Saturday that his forces also achieved very strong results with long-range strikes in the Caspian Sea, including vessels used in military cargo shipment

• 1:06:11Speaker 01

  involving Iran as well as warships. Russia has long used Iranian-designed Shahid drones in its war with Ukraine. So this is, this is a bit of an interesting thing. While there's been a pause, you know, Iran is, you know, Trump is saying they're wanting to negotiate. Iran said their lead negotiator is like, no, we're actually not wanting to negotiate. There's just been a pause. So Tom, when you see Zelensky doing what he's doing, is he using this as an opportunity to get on the right side of the president to have leverage on his negotiations with Russia?

• 1:06:38Speaker 02

  No, never.

• 1:06:39Speaker 01

  He would never do that.

• 1:06:41Speaker 02

  So this is a retaliatory. The US has been in a proxy war with Russia through Ukraine. Our, we have been testing, remember we talked about this at the beginning of the war? We have been testing our arms, our tanks and our materials against Russian counterparts. And the test bed has been Ukraine. The CIA gave Ukraine targeting information to go over the border with small rockets into Russia. Russia was pissed because they knew what was going on. Especially after they had apparently been given the wink wink. If it's a small excursion, said President Biden, you can come across the border. So Russia's been upset with that.

• 1:07:23Speaker 02

  And now Ukraine looks back and goes, hey, wait a minute. Our intelligence tells us Russia was giving targeting information to the Iranians to hit US bases. What a surprise, Pat, what a surprise. And by the way, there's a comment from Zelensky that said, if you give me 10 planes, 15 tanks and two Bentleys, I'll tell you who Russian military actually did it. So I'm being silly, but I'm not being silly.

• 1:07:48Speaker 01

  Let me watch this video by Zelensky, go for it.

• 1:07:52Speaker 01

  $600 shirt he's got on.

• 1:07:53Speaker 21

  Since the beginning of July, we have observed Russia's conducting intensive satellite surveillance of the Gulf states and the US military facilities located in a region. These satellite images are...

• 1:08:05Speaker 01

  Pause it right there. Adam, what do you think Zelensky's motive? Do you have a different position than what Tom just said?

• 1:08:11Speaker 12

  Well, I'm not going to disagree with our friend Tom. I just think, you know, we often say, you know, the three stages of truth. The, the first, you're ridiculed and we've seen Zelensky been ridiculed. Second, you're violently opposed, you get out of here, you don't have the cards. And then the third part is it's accepted as being self-evident. I think we can agree on this. Yes, we don't want to be wasting money and wasting resources all around the world. But at the same time, we can't be ostriches and pretend that we're just isolationists. We understand that Russia is the bad guy. We're on Team Ukraine. We understand that Iran is the bad guy in the region and we're on Team Israel. And all these things and all the rhetoric that has been used to basically try to dismantle

• 1:08:54Speaker 12

  our alliances with countries that we're cool with from bad actors out there. The chickens are coming home to roost, so to speak. And we all know that at the end of the day, Russia's the bad guy, they're a bad actor. And don't look now, not only are they not winning this war, they're potentially losing this war. If you look at the, the, the deaths, the combatants, ever since Israel and Palestine, nobody wants to talk about Russian Ukraine. Do you know that for every one dead Ukrainian soldier, rest in peace, there's eight dead Russians? This is not going good for Putin. His legacy will be a failed war in Ukraine. And let's see if he lives long enough to basically see the end of the war.

• 1:09:33Speaker 01

  Yeah, I mean, look, I, I don't know what's going to happen. I do know whenever there's massive tension, it's a massive opportunity to position yourself and win. Massive. When there's a lot of tension, it's like, hey, let me, how, it's like in a company, you know? Three people quit, all of a sudden, it's like eight people show up to ask for a raise. Because they're thinking the company's worried about losing people. Hey, I need a raise. Hey, hey, because they're like, hey, you're worried about me quitting. So can you give me a raise? It's like, this is one of those moments where people are kind of trying to position themselves. And I think a lot of people are being opportunistic, him being one of them. I want to talk about what happened with LeBron James going to the 76ers. As well as a couple of these stories of what happened in Paris and Berlin attack. And two other last stories that we got before we wrap up.

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• 1:14:20Speaker 01

  He had prior convictions, a 2025 trip to Lebanon linked to Islamic State, and a recent suspended sentence related to preparing violence. What a weird thing. You're preparing a violence. After a manhunt, he was located and shot dead by police. German officials, including interior minister, described it as an Islamic terror attack. Chancellor Frederick Marx and Berlin's official strongly condemned it as an assault on a free, tolerant society. Vinnie, thoughts?

• 1:14:48Speaker 03

  Well, thoughts are, you know, prayers and everything for the people that were involved, Pat. But before, so this guy had a criminal record for extortion, assault, extremist-related offenses. In May 26, he was convicted under section 89A of the German Criminal Code for "preparing a terrorist attack." And he was also convicted for activity connected to a banned extremist organization.

• 1:15:11Speaker 01

  And they let him go.

• 1:15:12Speaker 03

  You know why? Because he's young, Pat. He was a youth. Are you ready? This is gonna piss you off more than anything. Despite now being adult, he was sentenced under, he wasn't adult, but he was sentenced under Germany's juvenile justice system and received a one-year and 10-month suspended sentence. And he was released on probation. Are you ready for this? Investigators said he was, he became radicalized by Islamic ideology and reported boasted about having contact with ISIS. His case came under US State Department warrant in 2024 that ISIS and ISIS-inspired extremists could target LGBTQ events across Europe. All right, ready for this? As part of his release, he was ordered to attend 26 deradicalization counseling sessions.

• 1:15:53Speaker 03

  Think about that. 26 sessions to make you not a terrorist, Tom. And guess what? He only went to two. He attended two before the attack. Counselors reportedly believed that his responses appeared calculated and insecure, raised doubts about he was being genuinely abandoning all these beliefs. So think about this, guys. You have, you're basically saying you're a terrorist, and they send you to a deterrorist, a "take the terrorism out of me" camp, and they go in there and they're like, nah, he, we don't believe it's happening. His third session was scheduled for the following week, but before it could happen, they say he carried out the attack. Now, this is, it raised serious questions, Pat. Why someone? Guys, they, by the, our FBI

• 1:16:35Speaker 03

  used to do this a lot. They have somebody that's being a terrorist and acting like a terrorist, but they release him into the community because they're like, they're gonna fix this guy, okay? And you know what doesn't surprise me? Because guess where this happened? This happened in Germany. You guys remember the Hamburg rape case, where the 15-year-old girl was brutally raped by 11 migrants? All of, Pat, everybody but, only one guy served a prison sentence, one, under Germany's juvenile system.

• 1:17:01Speaker 02

  But then she...

• 1:17:02Speaker 03

  Then the girl, a girl, went on WhatsApp and started talking crap to one of them. She went to jail. She went to jail under Germany's defamation thing. So now, we're looking at another case where somebody's preparing, already on file, they already know who he is, preparing a terrorist attack, they put him in counseling, and then he does this. And this is again, we keep pointing out the UK, we keep pointing out the UK, and people are saying, no, we're crazy, these are isolated incidents, and that we're racist. No, it's happening. It's happening in everybody's face. And I don't know if you saw what happened in Paris a couple hours ago, the guy said, "Allah ordered me." This is happening all the time, and they're covering it up.

• 1:17:40Speaker 01

  That's the guy that's running, where the guys record him, he stabbed three people?

• 1:17:43Speaker 03

  Oh yeah. Humberto has the link that I just sent. They grabbed him, they put him on the ground, he stabbed like three, three girls, and on the ground, Humberto, could you show the one that where he's on the, what is this one? No, the one that he's on the ground? I just, look at this. Listen to what he's saying. This is in Paris.

• 1:18:05Speaker 03

  Look, stabbed, stabbed a bunch of girls. Oh, he's crazy. He's crazy.

• 1:18:16Speaker 03

  Allah, Allah ordered me to do it.

• 1:18:17Speaker 01

  Allah ordered me to do it.

• 1:18:19Speaker 03

  Allah ordered me to do it, is what they were saying that he was doing, okay? And if one more person tells me, "Oh, you're, you're being racist." No, no. What God, does Jesus Christ ever say? "Go, go and stab the hell out of all these people, because I have paradise waiting for you." And I don't like that. This whole crazy talk is nonsense. And the other guy in Berlin, Pat, drove through 29 people injured, could have killed all of them, one dead, and where does this ideology come from? I'm just curious. And what pisses me off is when there's 2-point billion Muslims. Nobody is saying that all Muslims are bad. I hate when they lump everybody into this category. When you have that many people, if 20%, and that's a very conservative number, I'm saying, is radicalized, how many is that, Pat? 2 billion people?

• 1:19:00Speaker 01

  400 million.

• 1:19:01Speaker 03

  400!

• 1:19:02Speaker 01

  But go even lower. Go, go even to 1%.

• 1:19:04Speaker 03

  Let's go to 1%. What is that?

• 1:19:05Speaker 01

  It's still 2 million.

• 1:19:06Speaker 03

  2 million people that in their heart of-

• 1:19:08Speaker 01

  1% is 20 million people.

• 1:19:10Speaker 03

  20 million people that will literally kill you, kill me, kill anybody, anybody, because they're God, because Allah told them to do it, okay? And I'm sorry if that's a hard fact, a hard pill to swallow. That's a fact. That's a fact. And when people bring up the Old Testament to Christians, I'm like, but bro, when Jesus Christ came, everything changed. Enough of that nonsense. So tell me another religion that's saying, "Kill the infidels, kill gay people, you know, or you can abuse women, they're half of what you are, and guess what? If you kill all these infidels, you get to go to heaven." Give me another religion. I'm waiting. Go for it. You can't. So this is ridiculous. This is gonna keep on happening, Pat.

• 1:19:49Speaker 02

  And by the way, this is that we are downstream, because Germany allowed this immigration, it all happened, and all of the liberal politics went that way. And what's going on is that, right now, the German government is in a box. Conservatism is growing back, but there's a couple odd conservative parties, Humberto and I were talking about this, and they're, they're kind of joining together over two things. Unchecked immigration, the wrong people coming in, and now radicalization, radical clerics that they know are there, and how do they deal with them without appearing prejudicial? That's the box they're in, and

• 1:20:30Speaker 02

  the people are starting to increasingly vote conservative. But this isn't 70%, Pat. This is like 32, 34, 36, 38. But the point is, the conservative vote is coming back in Germany, but it's after they had 15 years where they screwed it up. It's hard to pour 1,000 gallons of, of pollution into a pond and then filter it out. And that's exactly what the German people are trying to do right now. You see it in their elections, but it's coming late. You have to get ahead of it. You have to be in front of it. And this is what the US has a chance to do now, because we are just seeing the little green shoots of the problem. Over

• 1:21:12Speaker 02

  there in Germany, it's full-blown, full-grown, and now the people are starting to react at the polling places and the voting booth, but look, this is what you have. This is what we have to look forward to.

• 1:21:23Speaker 01

  I want to show you this clip here on how this pink-haired girl reacts to this event. Go for it.

• 1:21:26Speaker 23

  I'm getting really, really sick of this. I'm getting really tired of having to repeat myself over and over again. So today, in Berlin, there was an attack. A van drove through a crowd of people celebrating Berlin Pride Parade that they have every year. It's a huge parade. It's one of the biggest. And they injured, I think, at this time I'm making this video, this is subject to change, 17 people, and one person is dead. Okay, so it's, it's a breaking story. There are going to be things that are going to come out and change throughout the life of the story, you know, average. So the suspect is an Islamic extremist. That's their suspect right now. That's what I read, okay? I'm not going to

• 1:22:09Speaker 23

  say anything about the rest of the Muslim population because of actions of this one person. But what I can say is the people who were celebrating about this were all white men, young white men, with crosses on their profiles. Because we've all seen it. We've all seen how you guys react towards gay people, and how you wish harm on them constantly. I get that constant hate on my videos, especially about trans people.

• 1:22:34Speaker 03

  So her, her response is, "A Muslim extremist, aka a terrorist, killed people in her rainbow community, and her worry is that white people with crosses are celebrating." Not the Muslim guy who, who was taught to hate and kill your, by the way, she should go, oh my God, go visit the Middle East.

• 1:22:53Speaker 02

  Vinnie, Vinnie, never let a crisis go to waste. That's what she's doing.

• 1:22:56Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:22:56Speaker 02

  Adam, your thoughts?

• 1:22:57Speaker 03

  Oh my God, bro.

• 1:22:58Speaker 12

  Well, I've got a lot of thoughts on the story. You hear me okay?

• 1:23:03Speaker 01

  Yeah, go for it.

• 1:23:04Speaker 12

  Okay, sorry about that, guys. I have a lot of thoughts on the story, specifically because I'm in Israel right now. And obviously, I'm in Jerusalem, I'm in Tel Aviv, there's Christians, Muslims, and Jews everywhere. People with crosses, people with hijabs, people wearing kippas, and naturally, I was very nervous. Guys, is it safe? I've never, I haven't felt one ounce of anything like this. Complete safety. By the way, there's civilians walking around, not with guns, with massive AK-47s everywhere, zero issues. So here's what I could tell you I've learned, being in Jerusalem. There's a big difference between

• 1:23:43Speaker 12

  a, being a Muslim and an Islamist. There's tons of Muslims, amazing people, here in Israel, all over the Middle East, but that is a lot different from Islamist. An Islamist has a political ideology, they believe in Sharia law, and they want to take over the West. And you look, the irony that of me being in Israel, where Muslims are everywhere in this region, I feel safer, you ready, than being in Germany as a Jew. Is that insane to you? So we talk about suicidal empathy. My only fear is that not will Europe wake up, I think they've woken up, the question is, is it too late? That's what needs to be answered.

• 1:24:27Speaker 01

  Yeah. I mean, we will find out, you know, momentum's being created a ton. We will find out. But I'm gonna tell you this. Elon Musk was doing an interview with the lady from The Economist, and it's interesting what directions this went. This interview went viral all over the place. Couple clips I want to show you on what Elon said to her, that she herself was kind of shocked, and she didn't know how to answer, but he pushed back. Go for it. This is one of them.

• 1:24:50Speaker 23

  Are you anti-Muslim?

• 1:24:52Speaker 24

  Um, I am, I'm, I'm against, uh-

• 1:25:01Speaker 24

  Having, if, if, if, if people are coming to a country with antithetical views, I, I am against that. I, I'm against that, you know, I'm against, I, I, I'm against rape and murder. I'm against the imposition of rules and laws that are contrary to what we've come to accept in the West.

• 1:25:39Speaker 24

  And, and I think it's, it's, it's a crying shame that the sort of traditional media like you don't recognize this.

• 1:25:50Speaker 01

  Very common sense.

• 1:25:51Speaker 25

  You anti-Muslim?

• 1:25:52Speaker 01

  Very common sense stuff. And then she pushes and says, hey, how about your right wing positioning? You know, your, a lot of your power, you, you, you're agreeing a lot with the right wing things that people are saying. And, you know, he pushes back, yeah, far right, and she pushes, she pushes back, and then he pushes back. Okay, with the interviews, this is the one falsely going to normal people? Yeah, that's the one right there. Watch this one here. Go for it.

• 1:26:13Speaker 25

  Not just the populist right, but the far right. In fact, very fringe parties in some countries.

• 1:26:17Speaker 24

  No, I support the normal people.

• 1:26:19Speaker 25

  Okay.

• 1:26:19Speaker 24

  What do you call the far right falsely?

• 1:26:22Speaker 25

  You think is the normal person? Okay.

• 1:26:24Speaker 24

  Yes. Literally, you could, you could go back 10 or 15 years, and these, these, these policies were completely normal. In fact, you, you, one of the, one of the tricks I think is funny, one of the things that is quite funny is to, like, take a speech from Obama and Hillary, and then, and then go to someone and say, who's sort of, you know, on the sort of, what I call the lunatic left, and say, what do you think of the speech by Trump? Like, oh, wow, he's the worst person ever. Actually, that was a speech by Obama. Or actually, that was a speech by Hillary.

• 1:26:58Speaker 25

  I, I, I agree.

• 1:27:00Speaker 24

  Literally.

• 1:27:00Speaker 25

  No, I agree that the center of gravity in this country has shifted, certainly in the Democratic Party, shifted to the left. But that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about people like Rupert Lowe. I'm talking about people on-

• 1:27:08Speaker 24

  Please. It's, it's actually just normal people. It's just normal people. It's just normal people. And the, and, and here are the principles. And, and tell me, which of these sound terrible? Brilliant. That we should have secure borders, that we should have safe cities, that we should have sensible spending. Which of those three are, are, are far right fringe?

• 1:27:27Speaker 25

  Those three.

• 1:27:27Speaker 24

  And, and, and I would like to just admonish you-

• 1:27:31Speaker 25

  Do.

• 1:27:31Speaker 24

  -and the media for the absurd characterization of the far right. It is false and misleading and nonsense. Please keep this part in.

• 1:27:41Speaker 25

  We'll keep all of this in. But let me, let me-

• 1:27:44Speaker 24

  Don't cut this part.

• 1:27:45Speaker 01

  Pause it. Tom, thoughts?

• 1:27:47Speaker 02

  So, well, you know what? It just, it, it shows you the absolute intent of the media. The, The Economist has become a lobbyist of the left. And they feel, one of the, one of the, the points of liberalism is you have to call people to victimhood. And so the media feels that it is almost like the protest vote. So, the, the concept that The Economist would come and draw the supply and demand scissors, the familiar, you know, charts that you see, you know, John Maynard Keynes and others made famous, and just objectively

• 1:28:27Speaker 02

  look at the numbers and look at the impact of supply and, and, no. Instead, we are lobbyists. And The Economist is a lobbyist. She is not impartial. When you read the articles, The Economist has lost its way. And I'm not going to go off on that. I'm saying, this is emblematic of the entire media. And finally, someone like Elon sits down, and they allow this to actually go out. So I'm glad that this actually went out. And I'm sure that what was going on was that if Elon was smart, he probably had his people filming at the same time. It's, it's something that, you know, Vinny, we had a, a PR consultant that said, hey, when Pat does interviews with large publications, tell them, if you don't

• 1:29:11Speaker 02

  mind, I will also record this. That's all he says. And he records it, and then later, that's kind of a check and balance. Because we're like, wait, did they clip it? Did they stop Pat when he was saying something? Don't let a sentence being finished to create a false impression. And God bless whoever Elon had with him, that this got out like this in its full cloth, so you could see him speaking about the reasonable positions, and about the regular people, and how the media is trying to portray all of us in this position as the lunatic right. When it's reality, it's just the lunatic left.

• 1:29:43Speaker 01

  Yeah. And there's, there's a clip I sent to the guys, where she specifically says, she says, look, The Economist is a leftist organization. I don't know if you guys have that at the top. You just had it a minute ago. All the way at the top. Now, if you go at the top, you've shown it like 17 times, that you already had it pre-saved. Go to the top, to the top of the clips that you had previously. Can you take the mouse all the way to the top? Okay, forget about it. So, you, you know, she previously had said that they're a far leftist organization, that they're going through this. But how do you process what he's saying with, you know, the points he's making?

• 1:30:15Speaker 03

  Well, Pat, first of all, I am so happy that the now richest person on the planet is on the other side. Because, I mean, like, imagine all the people that the left has lost. It's, at what point did we come to a society, coming from the left, that common sense became far right extremists? It, it, it drives me crazy that a, a, a secure border, Tom, a safe city, you know, law and order, that is far right extremist.

• 1:30:43Speaker 02

  Sensible spending.

• 1:30:44Speaker 03

  Yes. And sensible spending, that's the far, far right. And Pat, I don't know if you caught in there, she tried interjecting Rupert Lowe, because she's anti Rupert Lowe. The fact that this guy was exposing, or he has exposed, what the government of the UK, all the governments are doing, and they're trying to put the kibosh on all this, you know, Islamist, you know, Pakistani rape gangs. She doesn't like that, because it, it puts people in a negative light. And I absolutely love that Elon Musk has, you know, he saw the light. It took him a couple of years. I mean, they lost everybody. They lost Rogan, they lost Elon, they lost all, they lost Bezos. They're losing all these, all these billionaires who are tired of that, of that nonsense that they were fed, that because

• 1:31:26Speaker 03

  we are normal, we are normal, and that we go against their leftist, leftist ideology, Tom, that we're extremists and we're far right. It's common sense.

• 1:31:35Speaker 02

  Remember, Rupert, two things happened. Rupert was attacked because they said, oh, this is discriminatory, this is reverse racism against these Islam people. Well, you know what it also was? It also is an absolute bright shining light on the silence of the media.

• 1:31:48Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 1:31:49Speaker 02

  So the media is embarrassed. And they don't want to be embarrassed. So part of their rage coming back is he's embarrassing them, because it calls them out for not covering the story, when the public needed to know these things.

• 1:32:01Speaker 03

  You make a great point, because think about it. The, the Fauci story, the Fauci revelations, name me one big leftist MS Now, whatever the hell they tried to change, CNN, are they covering this, Tom? Are any of them covering it? Any of them? Have you seen any big report break? If this was the other side, if Fauci was a Republican, oh my good God, it would have been all over. Have you seen any of it, Tom?

• 1:32:23Speaker 02

  No, I, no, I haven't seen any. I'm sorry we screwed up. But I sure haven't seen that.

• 1:32:27Speaker 03

  Yeah, sorry that we were-

• 1:32:28Speaker 01

  Let Rand Paul do his part. And sometimes in life, you know, people are not paying attention to you. You have to give them an argument to do it, and let them do it. But at this point, Adam, I'll give you the last thing here, 30 seconds before I'll go to the next story.

• 1:32:40Speaker 12

  Yeah, well, I just found out that I'm allegedly a far right radical. I, I just found this out. Why? Because I also agree with Elon Musk. I believe in having safe cities. I believe in securing our border. And I believe in fiscal responsibility. What a psychopath I am. I'm also, I'm, I'm gonna say this, I'm also against rape and murder. And I'm also against people coming to the country who have views that are antithetical to America and Western values. So consider me a far right radical, because I agree with Elon Musk on this.

• 1:33:10Speaker 01

  Yeah, simple. All right, let's go to the next one. News comes out out of nowhere that LeBron James is joining the 76ers. Not to chase the ring, just to go out there to play basketball and have a good time. Of course, he would never want to go to a different place, because they just got a new guy in that came from the Celtics, who won a championship and won the finals MVP. Or they got a big guy that may be the top three best centers in the league, Joel Embiid. Or the fact that they got a young guy, point, you know, point guard or number two, Maxey, who's become a superstar. He would never do it for that reason. He just went there because he wants to play basketball. He's not trying to chase Magic Johnson or Kobe to have five rings. And he signed a two-year contract, $8 million. So it's definitely not for the rings. It's for purely legacy and a championship that he went there. And I will tell you, it's a pretty decent team.

• 1:33:53Speaker 01

  It's a stacked team. There are a couple of things when you look at this. Story came out that a reporter from New York, his name is Sam Amico. Sam Amico is a reporter that came out and said the fact that he, his team, LeBron's team, approached the Knicks about him joining the Knicks. And the Knicks are like, no, we're good. We're passing on this one. And some people said, well, that would never happen. Who the hell would ever turn down LeBron James? The Knicks got a good thing going on in the locker room. This would be the worst move they can make to that team. Respect to the Knicks for not even flinching and moving on, on taking him. And we saw a lot of stories coming up a few years ago,

• 1:34:36Speaker 01

  maybe like a year ago, where Jerry, Jeannie Buss was like, this is the most egotistical superstar we ever had on the team. Palenka knew they were done with this allegedly, but they wanted to make sure they didn't undermine LeBron. And it was LeBron leaving, but in reality, they were kind of like, go, and go wherever you want to go. And I think about the Lakers, I said this multiple times, I think about Kobe's a Laker to me, Magic's a Laker to me, Jerry West is a Laker to me, A.C. Green, Byron Scott, Shaq, all these guys are Lakers. LeBron's not a Laker to me. He played for the Lakers and got paid pretty good money. And he had some good highlights, but- Big celebration, the fact that this guy is gone. He is, in my opinion, top three greatest players of all time. I have him at number two.

• 1:35:20Speaker 01

  And the question that becomes the following, Tom. Do you think the 76ers have a chance of winning a championship? I have strong opinions on this, but I want to ask you.

• 1:35:30Speaker 02

  I think on paper they do, but you have to remember how old those legs are. And incredible player or not, father time catches up. And also chemistry catches up. Why is it that with the Lakers, they only won one championship? Because I think, I think the chemistry is not there. Although I like the tweet from LeBron, like Miami and Los Angeles. I'm choosing Philly for the beautiful beaches, incredible culture, incredible weather and amazing people. He later deleted the tweet.

• 1:36:05Speaker 01

  You're being sarcastic.

• 1:36:07Speaker 02

  I'm being very sarcastic.

• 1:36:08Speaker 01

  That was never, that never happened.

• 1:36:09Speaker 02

  Because none of that is in Philadelphia. Yeah, that's right. Great beaches, gorgeous. So I, I don't think, do they have a chance? Yes, they have a chance. I'd be a fool to say they have no chance, especially with what they've got stacked up. However, you know, I look at it and I'm going to stand with it. I don't think he brings teams together and I think father time is going to catch up with those legs.

• 1:36:32Speaker 01

  Okay, Adam, thoughts? Will the 76ers win a championship?

• 1:36:38Speaker 12

  Will the 76ers win a championship? LeBron, I think they'll make it to the Eastern Conference Finals. I don't know if they're going to win a championship, but there's two very happy people going on right now. Number one is my CEO friend, mentor, Patrick Beddavid. I've never seen a bigger smile on your face the day you got to put on a Lakers outfit again. Cause I know how much you dislike LeBron. And number two are the Philadelphia 76ers. Cause the last time that they even won a championship was in 1983. And LeBron James was born the following year, 84. Here's what we could say about LeBron's legacy and I'll just let you guys go from here. Ring chasing, flopping and flip flopping. This is his what? Fourth team that he's been on.

• 1:37:22Speaker 12

  But if you want to look at the silver lining, every team he's ever been on has won a championship. Two with the Heat, one with Cleveland, one allegedly with the Lakers. We'll see what happens in Philly, but if you're relying on Joel Embiid's knees to take you to the promised land, you might have a problem.

• 1:37:40Speaker 01

  Yeah. And by the way, to me, this is the problem. This is the problem with these guys. Okay. Uh, why did the Celtics, just think about it this way. I don't want to spend a lot of time on this. Why did the Celtics let a finals MVP leave and keep Jason Tatum? Why? Why did they do that? He was at his peak. Why would you let a Jason Tatum leave? He's a phenomenal player. Well, Jalen Brown. From what I've heard is Jalen Brown thinks he's the smartest guy in every room he's in. He's a very difficult guy to be coached by. Here's a clip of Jason Tatum, who is, you know, talking to a bunch of kids. And look what he says here. A lot of people are speculating saying Jason Tatum in this clip was talking about Jalen Brown. Go for it.

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• 1:40:34Speaker 26

  Being a leader, that means you know it all. Right?

• 1:40:39Speaker 26

  I don't know it all. I'll be the first person to say that. Being a leader is being comfortable with raising a hand like, Michelle, I don't know. Can you explain that to me? I don't know X, Y and Z. I want to learn, right? Somebody, been around somebody that feel like they know it all, I don't want to be around that person. Right? I don't want to be the smartest person in the room. I want to learn from somebody else.

• 1:41:05Speaker 01

  Okay. So you mean to tell me, you give a 28 rebound, six points, six, 28 points, six assists, six rebound guy. You trade him for Paul George, who is 36 years old and averaged 17 points last season at 43% field goal percentage? No. It's your way of saying, leave Jalen. We can't build around you. We're going to build around Jason Tatum. That's the biggest spitting of the face from the Celtics. So now take this. You got a bad attitude guy, Jalen Brown allegedly, even Stephen A. went after him and said the fact that why is Jason Tatum never been on your podcast? And Jalen went after Stephen A., whatever their beef is. So you got a bad attitude, Jalen Brown, that's not a locker room guy, who said things about Bronny, LeBron's son.

• 1:41:50Speaker 01

  You got a Joel Embiid, who doesn't feel like he needs to play the season. And you put LeBron, all those three together, the person I feel bad for, bad for is Maxey. I think Maxey's a legit fighter and a player and I, you know, Joel at any point can get injured and he, he's good for one round or two rounds in the playoffs. Not three or four rounds. He's going to get hurt or something's going to happen. And I think there's going to be a lot of feud. If they win, great story. I don't think they make it past the Knicks, but we'll see. We're going to have to come back and check to see if our analysis here is good or wrong. And we'll do that come 10 months from now when they go into the playoffs. But anyways, good for them. Last but not least story before we wrap up. Is there any story we have left that we haven't hit up yet that we had on the list? Let's do this one story.

• 1:42:34Speaker 01

  This one story is a very interesting one where a company named Androol with Palmer Lucky is all of a sudden worth a hundred billion dollars. And they're building interceptors, missiles, built in car factories, cheaper, faster. And people are like, wait, what? What did they just build? Yeah, this guy, this defense tech company is in talks of raising funding at a hundred billion dollar valuation. And if you remember about a year and a half ago, I didn't know if I publicly shared the stocks and the companies I went in, but I went heavily into nuclear, into military companies, smaller ones, not the general dynamics, the big ones that we all know, Boeing, bless you.

• 1:43:17Speaker 01

  Smaller ones, because I do think we found a leak in our military and what we need to build. And we saw what, you know, Ukraine was doing with Ukraine, building those small little, you know, drones. And so America's got to get behind it. And so defense company Androol is in discussions with investors and new funding group that could see a value at a hundred billion dollars. Rivaling companies like Northrop Grumman, Lockheed Martin, two sources familiar with the matter. The funding round and valuation reported here for the first time were still fluid. One idea that had been floated was for the company to use a two-stage process where investors would need to commit to financing round at a higher valuation that could occur within a year. Sources said the valuation for the second funding could involve Androol meeting with certain financial benchmarks.

• 1:44:01Speaker 01

  The talks comes as the company has posted booming military sales and generated investor enthusiasm around its suit of drone software missiles. Amid the US conflict with Iran, just two months ago, the company doubled its valuation to 61 billion and a $5 billion round. So this is a very interesting story. I'm actually excited about this. And a $5 billion round was led by Thrive Capital and Andreessen Horowitz. Tom, thoughts on this?

• 1:44:24Speaker 02

  So I want to just underline something here. Very interesting. This is how they do their contracts with the government. Now you guys will be senators. I've got this design here. It's called the drone killer. And the drone killer 1.0 works like this. What do you think? And we got a couple of prototypes here, but we got to finish the R and D. You both senators vote for it. Who's paying for the R and D? The American people. And then we'll say, and by the way, we'll do this cost plus. So I'm going to determine the cost and then I'm going to get plus a profit. You two senators negotiate with me on the profit. And then guess what happens? Cost overruns and it takes longer and it takes more R and D.

• 1:45:08Speaker 02

  Who's paying for it? We are. The American people. Whereas Androol, you know what they do? They say, no, no, tell you what, I'll build it on my balance sheet. In other words, I will build it and then I will sell it to you. And that's why I'll do it. I'll sell you a finished unit. The defense industry has made its bones getting the American people to pay for R and D. And then on these cost plus deals where guess what's in the cost plus?

• 1:45:38Speaker 02

  When it was time for you boys to run for reelection every six years in senate, who did I make sure supported you?

• 1:45:43Speaker 03

  Oh, really, like that?

• 1:45:45Speaker 02

  Yes. It's legal. I give to a PAC, I give to you. You know, there are things that are legal, there's things that aren't legal that still happen anyway. But Andorl, what's interesting is they are talking about efficient manufacturing, where they are acting like a company not competing for a contract, but competing for a finished good. You don't like the Yeti, you buy the one by this other company over here. That's how they're competing. And I love the fact that they're not on cost plus, that they're coming out and trying to do it. Now, they've, they've run into things in Europe. They had a deal, Rhine Metal, I think it was, in Europe, and that, that contract kind of crashed a little bit. But they've also brought things forward that are really interesting.

• 1:46:28Speaker 02

  Last week, they were talking about a thing called Thunder. Thunder is a tri-rotor helicopter with three rotor, but it's autonomous. They fly two of them with our Apache. And so our Apache, with our pilots and everything, now get wingmen, autonomous helicopters, fully armed, that aren't afraid to die. So it makes us more lethal. So they're coming forward with a lot of great innovation that I'm really happy about. And we covered last week, did we not say, Pat, that we were concerned, and this man, Tom, I said, I was concerned that maybe the Patriot missiles didn't have enough ammunition in the Patriot battery, where those two, they had two confirmed kills, remember, Pat?

• 1:47:10Speaker 02

  They said there was another soldier, that was three, because he couldn't be identified at first tragically, which means that was a, a very messy death. Well, guess what? Over the weekend, we heard them say, somebody came out from defense and said, oh, we've, we had some issues, we've asked Trump to hold off certain parts of Iran escalation because we have an interceptor shortage. Interceptor shortage, let me translate it for you. We ran out of Patriot battery ammunition. And here are these guys talking about building it like they build in a factory.

• 1:47:44Speaker 01

  I'm gonna show you this. This is a video of him in Japan, explaining this on what they're doing. By the way, Palmer Lucky is the guy that started Oculus and sold it to Facebook for $2 billion. So this guy, you're like, oh, it's just the Oculus guy. Nah, this is very, watch what he's talking about here with the military equipment they're building. Go forward.

• 1:48:02Speaker 22

  This is a cruise missile.

• 1:48:03Speaker 27

  Yeah, so this is one of three cruise missiles that Andorl is manufacturing. One of the key things that Andorl has done, that is different from many other companies, is design our cruise missiles so that they can be very easily manufactured by automotive style assembly lines, workers, and manufacturing equipment. Most other companies design very exquisite missiles that are built by high-end aerospace factories. But by building missiles with 90% less parts, that can be built in 10% of the time, using automotive style factories, it means that a country can make all of its automotive factories into part of its deterrent strategy. Remember that during World War II, for example, the United States and Japan both used their

• 1:48:47Speaker 27

  peacetime factories that were making automobiles, motorcycles, and they pivoted them to wartime use. But it took time to design weapon systems that could be made in that way. We're doing it before any potential conflict. It can be launched from the ground, or from the air, or from sea. Actually, we recently showed it doing a ground launch, that we paid for that demonstration ourselves, but you can also launch these out of, for example, cargo aircraft. I can put them into a dispenser, so that even airplanes that aren't military aircraft, I can load this in, and I can push them out the side of the aircraft, and then the dispenser goes, turns your whole cargo aircraft fleet into part of your long-range weapon strategy. This is designed to scare China into not taking action on Taiwan.

• 1:49:31Speaker 01

  You can pause this right here. Leave it to an entrepreneur to solve big problems. You see, this is why I love the mentality of, again, the Vault Conference, why do we do this? You're in a room with almost 10,000 people, who are all thinking about solving bigger problems, and you get inspired, and all of a sudden, a guy's gonna build this, he sold it for $2 billion, how much money is he gonna make right now off of this? Think about, and how many events he went to, to network with others and say, hey, well, how about we do this, and then we leverage these relationships? This is why, you know, people go to business conferences to network. If you haven't yet registered for, go to vault2026.com to learn more about the Vault Conference. Tom, when you're, when you're seeing this taking place, and you're reading this, Adam, yourself, Vinnie, yourself, how are you processing this when you hear what this guy's doing with Palmer Lucky?

• 1:50:16Speaker 03

  He, he remind, as, when I saw him speaking like that to that individual, you know, he remind, he's the Elon Musk of weapons. He's the Elon Musk, he's gonna make it cheaper and faster, and giving them options of where you could build it, like, and if it's cheaper, Pat, like, he made, he made a great point. We allegedly-

• 1:50:31Speaker 01

  A tenth of a time, for a tenth of the price, using all our audio manufacturing factories.

• 1:50:38Speaker 03

  Which is, like, if that's not a blue ocean strategy-

• 1:50:40Speaker 01

  That's a blue ocean strategy.

• 1:50:41Speaker 03

  You tell me what is. And he makes a great point, Tom, you made a great point. If, if it means not losing US soldiers because we're running out of missiles to protect us, like, good for him.

• 1:50:51Speaker 02

  That's not an if. There's two stories that seem to indicate that the Patriot missile battery was low in ammunition, and we lost two, so we lost three soldiers.

• 1:50:59Speaker 03

  Yep. I thought it was up to four, but yeah, no, you might, you're-

• 1:51:01Speaker 01

  Adam, thoughts?

• 1:51:02Speaker 03

  I think it's great.

• 1:51:03Speaker 12

  Well, just remember the name Palmer Lucky. I remember just hearing about this guy a few years ago, Palmer Lucky, Palmer Lucky, Palmer Lucky, and I was like, oh, who is this guy? And PPD, you're absolutely right, I think he sold his company to, to Facebook for $2 billion, complete capitalist, complete helping the American National Defense Company save money, you know, they say, the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. Well, the only thing that stops a bad military is a guy who, a good guy that has a good defense company. So this Andorl company that he's doing, is helping America, it's helping our allies, it's helping Israel, and I don't wanna upset Tucker Carlson, but he's, he called himself

• 1:51:44Speaker 12

  a radical Christian Zionist, not to infuse that right now, but this is the type of person that we need leading, and not following the nonsense that's out there.

• 1:51:53Speaker 01

  Who's a radical Christian Zionist?

• 1:51:55Speaker 12

  He is.

• 1:51:56Speaker 01

  Tucker called him?

• 1:51:57Speaker 12

  No, he is, and Tucker Carlson said that the least thing that he hates in the world are Christian Zionists.

• 1:52:04Speaker 02

  And he's saying that commercial, regular commercial aircraft could actually launch these, you hear that?

• 1:52:09Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 1:52:10Speaker 02

  It's just amazing. So, you'll be taking, our flight today, we'll go from JFK to Tel Aviv, and at the two-third distance, we'll have dinner, followed by the dropping of the missile.

• 1:52:19Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:52:20Speaker 02

  This is over on Iran, so if you've ever wanted to see a Carg Island disappear, look out to the left, people.

• 1:52:26Speaker 01

  Okay, so let me go to the last-

• 1:52:28Speaker 12

  And PPD, the only reason I bring it up is because his name has been mentioned multiple times because of what he's doing between Israel and the United States and their technology.

• 1:52:35Speaker 01

  Last one here. Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie, I believe, have six kids together, if I'm not mistaken, that have identified themselves, based on public information, none of us, yeah, they got six kids together. But, four of them have officially taken all the necessary steps to drop the word Pitt from their last name, okay? Shiloh legally changed her name from Shiloh Jolie Pitt to Shiloh Jolie. Zara changed her name, publicly used his name Zara Jolie. Maddox removed Pitt and uses Maddox Jolie professionally.

• 1:53:17Speaker 01

  And Vivienne recently filed a petition to also change her name to Vivienne Jolie. Huh. I wonder who's influencing them? I wonder who's influencing them to hate their father? I wonder who's influencing them to not have any pride for their father, to keep their father's last name and keep their mother's last name? I mean, you, you hear a story like this, and I remember watching Original Sin, the movie with Antonio Banderas and Angelina Jolie, I don't know if you remember Original Sin. If you've ever seen the movie Original Sin, the movie, you know, I, I never thought Angelina was acting. I thought she was just being. It's a very dark movie, by the way, if you watch Original Sin.

• 1:54:02Speaker 01

  And, and when you see the way she got in, and she got Brad Pitt from, you know, Jennifer Aniston, and then all of a sudden, now, all the kids are changing their names together, how long were they married? How long were they married? And how many years did the kids live with their father? Can you imagine, like, how long these guys were married? The two of them? They were married 12 years, okay? And two years married, 12 years together, 2005 to 2016. The six children, Maddox born '01, Pax '03, Zara '05, Shiloh '06, Knox and Vivienne in '08, during their marriage, the children lived with both parents as a family during that time.

• 1:54:47Speaker 01

  After Jolie filed for divorce in 2016, and Jolie initially had primary custody, Pitt had visit, visited, visitation rights, that later expanded into court proceedings. A judge in 2021 awarded Pitt joint custody, but that decision was later challenged during the ongoing legal process. By the time the children reached adulthood, their living arrangements were largely their own choices. So approximate ages when the separation occurred, Maddox was 15, Pax was 12, Zara 11, Shiloh 10, Knox and Vivienne 8, and they're now doing their own thing and choosing to change their name away from Pitt to Jolie. Tom, how do you process this story?

• 1:55:28Speaker 02

  Two selfish actors fall in love while filming Mr. and Mrs. Smith. They abandon their relationships, spontaneous, and get together. And now we have six kids that are being manipulated, lobbied, and confused. And I can say that. I can say that as my objective conclusion because so many articles, left and right, have been written about this. You see what's going on. And the victims here are these kids. Kids want a mom, and they want mom roles out of her. And they want a dad, and they want dad roles out of them. We did the webinar, the fatherhood webinar that we did here.

• 1:56:13Speaker 02

  The response to it was amazing, from men, women, and kids. And I look at this, and it just disgusts me. Two selfish actors are playing with the lives of these six kids.

• 1:56:25Speaker 01

  But let me tell you, Tom. So I had a husband and wife, good friends of mine, where they went through a divorce, nasty divorce. And they had four beautiful kids, okay? And one day, I'm spending time with, and the guy had a strong personality, and you know, he was a driver, successful driver. And one day, I'm with the kids, and the mother and some friends, and she's there. And I just watched the animosity the kids had towards the dad. And I went and whispered to the mom, and I said, "Man, whatever you do, don't feed into it. Don't get your kids to hate their father. This is not good.

• 1:57:10Speaker 01

  It's gonna hurt them long-term. Don't do that. You know, your issue is with your husband. Don't make your issue with the husband their issue with their fathers. This is gonna have a negative impact on them long-term. Keep your animosity internally. Don't pass it to your kids. This is not a good, I've seen this happen in my family." And it backfired. So short-term, like, you know, sometimes, you know, it was Laton the other day said something. He said, "He says, 'Bad things happen in a family when you make money.'" He says, "I don't know why. People who you had great relationships with just act differently around you." There's an expectation of that, you know, that money, yeah, it's that interview, I just

• 1:57:53Speaker 01

  don't know which clip it is, if you can find it, you know, if you can find which one it is, it's a different one that he gets into with family. But they look at you in a different way. They almost feel like you don't spend enough time with them, you don't spend enough money on them. Everybody expects you to do. So imagine all the pressures already of Pitt and Jolie, successful, famous. Pitt at one point, the greatest actor. We watched Troy last night. The guy made seventeen and a half million dollars on Troy. He crushed it. He makes the movie. Angelina Jolie's been on some very, very big movies. She's done an amazing job. But dude, if you cannot keep that animosity of you and your husband, you and your wife to yourself, your kids are gonna suffer consequences long-term.

• 1:58:34Speaker 01

  So anyways, I mean, I hate seeing when kids don't have the pride of their ethnicity, they don't have the pride of where they come from, they don't have the pride of their family last name. That's one of the worst things you can do to a kid, to get him to have that kind of a feeling. Adam, I'll give you 30 seconds, and I'll wrap up.

• 1:58:51Speaker 12

  Yeah, it sucks. You know, when you go through these relationships, you always think, "All right, well, I got a good thing going on, but maybe there's something else better out there." And look at a couple of different examples. Brad Pitt leaves Jennifer Aniston, ends up with Angelina Jolie, now his kids don't talk to him anymore. Ben Affleck, he should've stayed with Jennifer Garner. He ends up with J-Lo, not once, another remix, twice. She should've stayed with Marc Anthony. Now, she's 50-plus and single. You look at Princess Di, breaking up with King Charles. We know what happened to her. And of course, Kim Kardashian, you know I won't go there. But sometimes, when things are good, you go through the tough times, you stick it out, you think you could just shift to a bigger, better deal, and it ends up way worse.

• 1:59:35Speaker 12

  So there's a message there, and it sucks to see what's happening to the Pitt family.

• 1:59:39Speaker 01

  There you go.

• 1:59:40Speaker 03

  But are you guys surprised? He was married, and then basically cheated on his wife, and that started the Angelina Jolie relationship. And just, by the way, you named some of the kids. Maddox Zahara are adopted. Maddox is adopted from Cambodia, and Zahara is adopted from Ethiopia. Like, the lack of respect. This guy saved you. He saved you from that place. The Shiloh Knox, well Knox and Vivian are twins, and Shiloh is of the biological side. But, you know, and mind, do you guys remember, I think it was September 14, 2016, Pat, on a private flight, this is, she made allegations from Angelina Jolie that were in court filings that Brad Pitt was, you know, physical with her and grabbed one of the kids, and because

• 2:00:24Speaker 03

  they were trying to defend her, and he, you know, he struck one of the kids, or he got, and she, you know, services were called on him. So this is just, again, going back to it, this relationship was birthed, so to speak, from you being cheating on your freaking wife. So all this negative stuff that happens after it, Pat, I mean, I'm not surprised, Adam. Like, I'm not saying bad karma, I don't believe in that, just believe in, when it starts off like that, what'd you expect?

• 2:00:49Speaker 01

  I don't know, man. I'm a Brad Pitt guy.

• 2:00:51Speaker 03

  I love Brad Pitt.

• 2:00:52Speaker 01

  I love his work, and I know you guys met Tom Cruise, and you guys were having a conversation.

• 2:00:55Speaker 03

  You know my boy, Tom.

• 2:00:56Speaker 01

  But I like Brad Pitt, and I hate to see this happening with kids and their relationship with their father.

• 2:01:01Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:01:02Speaker 01

  Don't like to see that. All right. You know, with that being said, gang, I don't know when we're gonna be doing the next podcast. I know we're not doing it on Wednesday morning. We may do it on Thursday, we may do it on Friday, but it's definitely gonna be either Friday or Thursday, because of all the stuff that's going on, going into the summer season with all the events we got going on. So stay tuned. We will definitely post it on when we're going live this week. It'll be either Thursday morning, 9:00 a.m., or Friday morning, 9:00 a.m. And please, manect Adam and tell him to be on time. Can you guys do that? Please manect Adam and tell him to be on time. It's starting to get very frustrating here.

• 2:01:33Speaker 12

  That's my fault. How about these audio issues?

• 2:01:35Speaker 01

  Take care, everybody.

• 2:01:36Speaker 12

  And Israel doing okay?

• 2:01:37Speaker 01

  Shout out to the Israel new team that you got. Bye-bye, bye-bye. Shout out.

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