Illegal Votes in New Jersey, Tate Lawyer Speaks Out, & ESPN Layoffs | PBD Podcast #836

Patrick Bet-David and the Home Team are joined by Tate brothers' attorney Joe McBride, who responds to the UK extradition case and new charges against Andrew and Tristan Tate. They also break down ESPN’s post-NFL Network layoff wave and the anti-ICE attack outside a federal building in New York City. ✍️ PRE VAULT NETWORKING EVENT: https://bit.ly/4wQIe5k 🎟️ SECURE YOUR 2026 VAULT TICKETS: https://bit.ly/4xU2SCW 👞 GET THE FLB1's: https://bit.ly/4mC4uf6 🧢 SHOP THE BLACK & GOLD FUTURE LOOKS BRIGHT HAT: https://bit.ly/4pe7gZh 🦁 SPONSOR THE VAULT 2026: https://bit.ly/4mFBPpw Ⓜ️ CONNECT ON MINNECT: https://bit.ly/4kSVkso Ⓜ️ PBD PODCAST CIRCLES: https://bit.ly/4mAWQAP 👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: https://bit.ly/4lzQph2 🥃 BOARDROOM CIGAR LOUNGE: https://bit.ly/4pzLEXj 🇰 KALSHI: http://kalshi.com/pbd SUBSCRIBE TO: @VALUETAINMENT @ValuetainmentComedy ABOUT US: Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.

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  The handshake is better than anything I ever signed, right here.

• 0:18Speaker 01

  You are a one of one?

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  My son's right there.

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  I don't think I've ever said this before.

• 0:27Speaker 01

  Okay, so we got a special show here with us where we have the Tate Brothers lawyer, Joe McBride, that's gonna join us at the 10 hour, 10 hour mark and tell us what's really going on, the latest update, the stuff that maybe nobody's talking about or thinking about. We'll get into that here shortly. There's a lot of things that's going on. One, Ryan Clark just got fired from ESPN, bunch of speculation. ESPN fired a bunch of people, Cam Newton, Ryan Clark, Carl Ravage, who I never thought would get fired, he's been there for 33 years. And then Tim Tebow got a raise and he got a new contract. And then John McAfee is about to go to get paid, Vinny, you ready for this one? They're gonna pay him 60 to 65 million per year. McAfee is what he's gonna be getting paid.

• 1:10Speaker 01

  So people are wondering, is ESPN realizing this woke stuff is not working and we're leaving it? Who knows? We'll talk about that. At the same time, there's this girl that goes like this, you know who I'm talking about? She puts her finger like this, Sophie Cunningham. I love her. Who is calling out a common sense of not wanting men to be in women's sports and protecting young girls. And I saw this commercial, because Megan Rapinoe, you know how it is, she's your favorite. She was on, she was on The View. And when she was on The View, she's saying all this stuff. And then this young girl is in this commercial. I don't know if you've seen this commercial or not. This young girl is in this commercial and she asks the most magical question of Megan at the end of the commercial.

• 1:54Speaker 01

  Moms, dads, you have to see this commercial. She destroys Megan Rapinoe, this 10, 11, 12 year old girl. With one question, she destroys her. Anyways, we'll get into that. New Jersey, if you guys remember last week when Trump gave the speech and he said there was gonna be some election fraud and people doing different things. Well, guess what? News was about to drop in New Jersey that they accidentally, allegedly, you know the key word allegedly, accidentally gave away 6,600 IDs to illegals, of which 400 voted. The Pat, that's, come on, that doesn't happen. I mean, of course, there's no election fraud, but in Jersey, there is.

• 2:39Speaker 01

  And Jake Tapper said, you showed it this morning. He says, I mean, if you know you're illegal and you're getting an ID and you know you shouldn't vote, why would you vote? Why did you vote? Yeah. I mean, nobody, why, why would you steal? Why would you commit a crime? I mean, can you imagine how bad you have to be for Jake Tapper? To get Hunter Biden to hate you?

• 3:02Speaker 01

  Yeah, you're messing up. You made such a good point this morning. Hunter Biden hates Jake Tapper. He loves everybody else. I mean, come on Jake, make some friends buddy. Maybe go read How to Win Friends and Influence People. Well, you have to work hard over the weekend to make that happen. Well, he's, he's definitely crushing and losing friends. And then you have this one game, I posted this, a lot of people like, Pat, you're wrong, Pat. I don't agree with you, Pat, and I'm open to it. I'm gonna go read through the comments. But this man at a Cubs game is looking at this other fellow who is not standing up. And what does he do? Wham, smacks him upside the head. And I called him a patriot. And a lot of people said, Pat, I dare you. I dare, I wouldn't, I wouldn't stand up to the National Anthem and see what would happen if you would have smacked me upside my head.

• 3:48Speaker 01

  You shouldn't be, be a dude, something like that and promoting something like this. So is this guy a patriot or not? I'm gonna show you the clip. He's from Chicago, you know, Chicago is different. They stand up when they're playing the National Anthem. And these two other guys are like, leave him alone. Leave him alone, he doesn't need to stand up to that. Maybe we'll have a friendly debate over that. Iran, very interesting things developing with Iran. Trump came out and said, for every ship you hit, I'm gonna destroy one of your bridges and I'm gonna hit you at places where it hurts. Every single time you do it.

• 4:20Speaker 01

  And while I'm reading this to you, you know what Iran just did? Iran strikes on CIA facilities, prompt questions about whether Russia was involved. And on top of that, there's something going on with Houthis. Say they attack Saudis tankers in the Red Sea, threatening new choke point in Iran war. And Tom has a complete different thing that he thinks going on with Saudi. Because Tom's idea, Saudi is trying to use this as their leverage point for them to go get nuclear weapons. I will let Tom describe that to you, why he believes that. And while all this stuff is going on, guess what Iran, it's just not a regular day. It's not a big deal. I mean, they're such nice people at IRGC, noble, peaceful, you know.

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  Iran, Iran executes two young men for offering help to fleeing anti-regime protesters. Not a big deal, not a big deal. For opening their front door to people that were screaming, running down the street. You know, not a big deal. Let's just support how great IRGC is for some of the people that do that. New polls came out, you know who's not happy about these polls? A guy who lives in California, who's got the biggest job, who doesn't show up to work. He calls in sick every day, pretty much based on his performance. And that guy's name is Newsom. And a, and a poll came up showing how much he's dropped off in the last nine months. Numbers are staggering. And guess who's climbed up? A girl named AOC. And this is real.

• 5:46Speaker 01

  Now, if you're gonna be like, AOC would never be the primary for the Democrats and all. No problem, I have an argument for you. Tom's got a heavy one as well to go through with that. It's unbelievable what's going on with AOC. Newsom, Ossoff, some of the other names that are coming up. Tom thinks it's gonna be Ossoff. I think it's gonna be AOC. I mean, we'll fight it out on what happens there. And then Nicaragua, a noble man, president, dictator, communist. You know, all that stuff that a lot of people in New York City like. He came out and he said, there's gonna be no more elections in Nicaragua. Done, we're not doing any more elections. Why not? We're just not doing it. We know America's trying to get involved and bring such things as freedom of speech and, and, you know, allowing people to vote.

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  We're not doing that in Nicaragua. This is not gonna be happening. Maybe we'll get into that story. And then I got a couple other stories that are interesting stories for us to hit. I know you have one thing you wanna talk about with Hassan Piker. Oh, yeah. And then there is a story by Chipotle COO, who, his job involves, involves taste, taste testing guacamole. That's what he does for a living. He has a simple hack for finding your dream job. And I absolutely love his advice. Then there's one thing about prenup protection that has nearly doubled in the last six years. This one feature on prenups has doubled the last six years. If we have time, we'll get into that.

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• 10:00Speaker 01

  of New Jersey just came out and said they accidentally gave 6,600 IDs to illegals and 400 of them voted. Wait, what? Didn't NBC, ABC, CBS said that last week when the president was speaking, "We're not going to showcase what he has to say because the president's going to say some stuff that's damaging to election integrity"? Really? CBS, NBC, ABC? Really? And by the way, just so you know, the government's sitting there saying, "How the hell are you not playing the clip by the president?" And now you show this, that this just happened? So, I want you to play this clip of the governor. You can hear from the governor what this, what she has to say. Here's what took place in Jersey. Accidentally,

• 10:43Speaker 01

  of course, they would never do this on purpose. Accidentally. Go for it.

• 10:47Speaker 03

  A serious software error in New Jersey's motor vehicle system led to the improper voter registration of what we believe to be roughly 6,600 people in our state.

• 11:00Speaker 01

  Right.

• 11:00Speaker 03

  Some individuals indicated that they weren't citizens and weren't eligible to vote, but the software registered them anyway.

• 11:09Speaker 01

  Okay, so I thought softwares like Dominion don't screw up.

• 11:13Speaker 04

  No, they never.

• 11:14Speaker 01

  I thought softwares like this, DMV.

• 11:15Speaker 04

  No.

• 11:16Speaker 01

  Wasn't this like a perfect, flawless, the first ever system they created?

• 11:19Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 11:20Speaker 01

  That nobody can hack into?

• 11:21Speaker 04

  Nobody could touch it.

• 11:22Speaker 01

  So, Vinnie, what's really going on in Jersey?

• 11:24Speaker 04

  Well, the main thing is, and Tom made a great point this morning, is the only reason this is happening, that the governor is coming out and saying this, Pat, is because she's getting out ahead of it because of Trump's speech about China and election interference and all that stuff. That's the only reason she's coming out, okay? And the numbers are even worse. DHS and even Trump, Humberto, I think you have the actual two social polls from the president. The numbers indicate that there were actually 35,152 non-citizens registered to vote in New Jersey, not the 6,600 that she's talking about. And the numbers are more than enough to decide an election in multiple states, okay? And Pat, this is

• 12:04Speaker 04

  the main reason that the Democrats have spent, I think up to this point, over $20 million trying to fight and not hand over the voter rolls to the DOJ, okay? That's why the Save America Act is so freaking important. And another one, you know the software vendor that she's talking about? It's called Idemia, I-D-E-M-I-A. They come out and stated that it was not a software glitch. Humberto, you have that as well? According to the company, the state of New Jersey approves non-citizens who register to vote.

• 12:34Speaker 01

  Wait, wait, wait. Back up seven seconds.

• 12:36Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 12:37Speaker 01

  You just said Idemia came out and said it's not on them?

• 12:41Speaker 04

  This is them right here. Idemia works for the New Jersey Motor Vehicle Commission and has for more than 40 years to support the process through which eligible individuals may indicate their interest in registering to vote when applying or renewing the driver's license or state-issued identification card. Idemia's role is to transmit information through the motor vehicle system. The voter registration information is transmitted to the New Jersey Department of State Division of Elections, which is ultimately, this is where they're saying, "It's on you, homegirl," responsible for verifying eligibility to vote. Information submitted to Idemia must still be validated and adjudicated by the Division of Elections.

• 13:17Speaker 01

  Can you do me a favor, hit that Grok button at the top and say, "Is this true"? Can you click on that and just put, "Is this true?" And let's find out on what they're saying. If that's the case, and they said that this isn't on us, it's on you, don't throw us under the bus.

• 13:29Speaker 04

  That's them.

• 13:30Speaker 01

  That's embarrassing.

• 13:31Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 13:31Speaker 01

  If that's really what took place and what was said. Yes, the court details are accurate. Boom, boom, boom, 400 of them. Idemia's statement matches. They are transmitted. They don't get, so it is true on what took place. Okay, please continue.

• 13:45Speaker 04

  And Pat, this just hit me. Is it strange? Mother, I hate the word irregularities or glitch. And is it just me? Or all these glitches, all these irregularities always favor the Democrats? Is that weird? Like, is it just me? I've never heard it go to the Republicans, and we've been doing this. I've been working here for over four years. I've never heard it happen. And I want to point something else, Pat. And this is just, oh, just a little step back. In 2020, and I think one of Trump's lawyers was fighting in Congress for it, his name was Jesse Binal. He provided evidence that just in Nevada, 4,000 illegal immigrants voted, 1,500 were dead, 19,000 were non-residents to vote, 42,000 people in Nevada voted more than once, 8,000 ballots came from non-existent addresses,

• 14:28Speaker 04

  and 15,000 ballots from vacant addresses voted. On top of that, Giuliani, who they owe a freaking huge debt of gratitude, and if I was him, I'd be trying to go legally after them for what they did to him. He exposed in Georgia in 2020, Pat, 96,600 mail-in ballots that were voted, yet none of, no county records, chain of custody showing that they even received them back then. And that's Biden's majority of victory in Georgia was only 11,779. So, here's my thing, Pat. Donald Trump, okay, has been president for a year and what, six months, Jake? I think we talked about it before. We own the presidency. We own the House. We own the Senate. Supreme Court is majority Republican, and they're supposed

• 15:11Speaker 04

  to be in charge. How are things like the SAVE Act, Tom, not being pushed and not being pressed? And Humberto sent me a video, and I showed it to you this morning, of Trump when he was asked about China. You know what he said? Like, they're like, "Hey, are you going to go after this? Are you going to..." Play this clip. This is the president, and I do not like this attitude at all. Play this clip.

• 15:34Speaker 02

  And until they're ready to meet in a meaningful way, we have no interest in even...

• 15:42Speaker 05

  Mr. President, are you planning on putting any pressure or consequences on China for what you announced about them meddling in the 2020 election?

• 15:50Speaker 02

  Well, we're going to talk to them about it. It took place a long time ago. I think China's maybe a little bit different today than it was then. But look, they're, they do things and we do things to them. I'll be honest. We do things to them too. It's not a one-way street, but we'll be talking to them.

• 16:04Speaker 04

  Okay, Pat, and I'm sorry, and again, all the stuff that I voted for, and again, I don't want vengeance. I don't want that. I want accountability. And unless he has a trick up his sleeve, letting China get away with everything, from COVID to election interference to where he was furious because 2020, he believes, and I believe, that they totally stole it from him, okay? And now we're supposed to act like, eh, well, we do stuff with China too. We don't mess with China's elections. They don't have elections. It's just the dictator, and that's it. So, it's very, very frustrating, but the left has just been exposed. There's never irregularities. Can you show a Jake Tapper's too, Pat? Is it okay?

• 16:38Speaker 01

  This is about...

• 16:39Speaker 04

  This is Jake Tapper saying, like, look at the unbelievable. Guys, Mr. Bestseller Book, which is not a bestseller, look at his attitude when he's asking about this cheating. Go ahead.

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  If you're in the country illegally, and you get a letter saying that you can vote, and you know you're not supposed to, not only you're not supposed to vote, you're not supposed to be there, why do you vote?

• 16:59Speaker 00

  I registered for a party.

• 17:00Speaker 04

  You know why?

• 17:02Speaker 06

  I mean, but I just, like, wonder, like...

• 17:03Speaker 01

  You're in a store. Those products are not yours. Why did you steal? Why did you steal?

• 17:08Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 17:09Speaker 01

  You know you shouldn't kill that person. Why did you kill them? Let's question why criminals do what they do. Oh, like, what an incredibly nice place you live, Jake. Isn't that great that everybody gives you a list and a report and teleprompt, you just go to work? Awesome. That's not reality.

• 17:25Speaker 07

  That's an Academy Award for the worst and weakest gaslight of the 2026.

• 17:31Speaker 01

  Do you have what Hunter Biden had to say about Jake Tapper? Do you have that clip?

• 17:35Speaker 04

  Oh, if you have it.

• 17:35Speaker 01

  If you just type in Jake Tapper, Hunter Biden. I don't know what Jake did to Hunter, but he is not...

• 17:41Speaker 04

  He pissed him off. He was just on a podcast.

• 17:41Speaker 01

  Two peas. There you go.

• 17:42Speaker 07

  Hunter Biden, chairman of the Jake Tapper Fan Club.

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  He was not...

• 17:45Speaker 04

  I don't know if it's this one?

• 17:47Speaker 01

  That complete utter asshole. That's the one, I think.

• 17:49Speaker 04

  Yeah, this is it. This is it.

• 17:50Speaker 01

  Watch this. Go ahead.

• 17:53Speaker 01

  Were you friends with Jake Tapper?

• 17:55Speaker 08

  No. No, I knew Jake forever. I've known Jake, Jake for 25 years.

• 17:59Speaker 01

  How'd you feel about the book?

• 18:00Speaker 08

  I think that Jake is a complete and utter asshole.

• 18:07Speaker 08

  I think that he is a really poor journalist and beyond that, I don't think.

• 18:13Speaker 04

  Yeah, a crackhead.

• 18:14Speaker 01

  You can't even win him over.

• 18:16Speaker 04

  You can't even win that guy over.

• 18:17Speaker 01

  So Tom, where are you at with this with Jersey? How big of a deal is this? And why, I guess the part that Vinny asked, which is the most important part, why isn't Trump coming out touting and using this and saying, I told you there was election fraud. I told you they're doing this. And instead saying, well, we do stuff to China as much as they do to us.

• 18:35Speaker 07

  Well, I separated it into two camps. One is the China thing. And I would have liked the president to be a little bit stronger on that statement, frankly. But now let's go back to this. What my opinion is, I agree with Vinny on the whole waterfall, the argument that he made, and I want to point something out. Look how simple it is. Once you get inside the system, one checkbox, one checkbox could indicate, hey, I want to register to vote, don't want to register to vote. But here's the other thing you can do. Now that you have the data in there, corrupt people inside a department of elections, Pat, can identify the check mark and say, hey, look at all the people that have temporary IDs or even driver's licenses in California. Because illegal residents, illegal aliens can get a driver's license in California.

• 19:20Speaker 07

  Now you can look for that checkbox in the stack of data, Pat, and just automatically send stuff to them. Send a mail in ballot to them. Send something to them. Register them. It shows you how easy it is to get into the data, identify the people that you believe are going to be likely voters. And Jake Tapper, why are they voting? Free cheese, free phone, free rent, free medical services.

• 19:42Speaker 01

  Just vote Democrat.

• 19:43Speaker 07

  Free works pretty well, Jake.

• 19:45Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 19:45Speaker 07

  So that's what I think, Pat. This shows you how easy the software underneath not only can be corrupted, but once the data is out there, I can now reach into the data and say, hey, Pat, look, I just found 6,000 people. Let's just find a way to send them a mail in ballot. There you go.

• 20:01Speaker 04

  Can I ask you a question, Tom? You're the president. How do you deal with China with their history of what you've done? They unleashed COVID, they have spies in the United States, they're buying up land, they do all this stuff. They're helping Chinese elections, they're arming Iran with ballistic missiles, they're helping them. How do you deal with China with the enemy that they are? What do you do?

• 20:21Speaker 07

  Well, as long as they don't float a balloon over our property or some, oh shit, I forgot.

• 20:25Speaker 04

  Yeah, they did that, Tom.

• 20:26Speaker 07

  The, um, well, I just think it should be a little bit, I'd like to see it a little bit stronger on the response. Because, you know, now, what do we know now? We know two truths and you can't deny them. All of the flaws that was in the reporting and the accusations of Russia, the Steele dossier, everything. You don't even have to go A to Z. You could say Russia was a fraudulent claim against a presidential candidate, period. Now you can also say, because remember, many things can be true at once, China had its finger in there too. So it does show you our superpowers, Pat, reaching around the world, trying to screw with each other. Yes.

• 21:01Speaker 01

  I have an idea. I have an idea. I have an idea what Trump's, have you, have you guys read Regime Change yet?

• 21:05Speaker 07

  No.

• 21:06Speaker 01

  Or have you started yet?

• 21:06Speaker 07

  No.

• 21:07Speaker 01

  Okay. The Regime Change is the book that was written by these two New York Times reporters that just crossed 500,000 copies sold already, which is going to be the number one nonfiction book of 2026. They're doing very well.

• 21:18Speaker 07

  And it looks like real numbers steadily growing.

• 21:20Speaker 01

  No, no, no, it's real numbers.

• 21:21Speaker 04

  Great reviews.

• 21:22Speaker 01

  Yeah, I'm reading the book and it tells you everything with the relationship of the president with the Trump, with Tucker. The fights with Susie Wiles and Dan Bongino, with Epstein, how they mishandled it. It tells you the stories of those guys. Remember when they held the folder?

• 21:36Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 21:37Speaker 01

  With Epstein, when they, and it explains one time in the book where the president asked J D Vance to use specific words to go out there to make it seem like they're all on the same page. I need you to use these words. I need you to use these words. And there was also a moment where he got upset with Tulsi because he's like, he told Tulsi, well, if you want to be a president, you're not working here. What do you want to be? You want to work for me or you want to be a president? If it's president, don't do it here. So that was a follow up. And then she came back and said Obama's doing this. If you read the book, you'll notice a pattern of the president doing things like this. He'll get out there, throw stuff, bash you, forces you to call him.

• 22:20Speaker 01

  Then when he call him, he says, look, that was my way of getting a hold of you. What do you want to do now? So was this his way of getting up there, forcing China to give him a call? Like in the book, it tells a story about Nvidia on, at the beginning where everybody said, you know, there was a moment where in the book it describes, what's Nvidia? What did they do? And they sat down and explained what Nvidia does. And said, this is the sexiest company in the world with the most power right now. And Nvidia wanted to sell chips to China because he didn't have it. And guess who he needed to be able to sell to China? He needed the president. He brings him in, they have a meeting together at Mar-a-Lago, okay, with the Nvidia CEO, Jensen Huang.

• 23:00Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 23:01Speaker 01

  And they're sitting there and he's trying to win them over. Jensen's trying to win them over. And Trump realizes, look, we don't want to sell chips to China to make them strong. But guess what? China needs Nvidia.

• 23:11Speaker 07

  Of course.

• 23:12Speaker 01

  So this was his leverage on a way to negotiate something he wants with China. And then he gave him the deal, so whatever the negotiation was. So to me, I think he's going here doing this because behind closed doors, there's a lot of talks with China that we don't know about. And I don't know what's being negotiated right now. You know, the one story that came up with Iran, remember the biggest thing right now, the biggest thorn in his, you know, that he's dealing with right now is what? Iran.

• 23:37Speaker 07

  100%.

• 23:38Speaker 01

  And who is typically defending Iran? China and Russia.

• 23:41Speaker 07

  Yep.

• 23:41Speaker 01

  So is there something he's saying, hey, stay the F out of this one with me and Iran, let me kind of do my own thing? I can see him doing that. So it's like, hey, if you touch me here, I'm going to keep telling him how much you're meddling in our elections and I'm going to keep blasting you nonstop 24/7. So I think he's playing the Trump game.

• 23:57Speaker 07

  Okay.

• 23:58Speaker 01

  I think that's what he's doing. Believe me, I think that's what he's doing. And he has a very unique way of pissing off his base constantly, but at the same time. Did you guys see the CNN poll that just came out with Harry Enton?

• 24:10Speaker 07

  I didn't.

• 24:11Speaker 01

  Did you see, do you have that clip, Humberto? So they came up with a poll.

• 24:15Speaker 07

  Okay.

• 24:17Speaker 01

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• 26:11Speaker 14

  21st century own party approval rating about at this point in the second term. We got Trump, we got Obama, we got Bush. Look, they're all fairly popular, but the one who is the most popular, and we have seen this time and time out, no matter when you look, is Donald John Trump. He's the only one who's over 80%. 83% of Republicans still approve of the job that Donald Trump is doing.

• 26:31Speaker 01

  More than Obama, more than Bush, second term.

• 26:32Speaker 14

  He still has that magic touch. We'll see if it carries over to South Carolina.

• 26:35Speaker 01

  So you can pause it right there. You know, you know what that means? And by the way, can you check to see what the date on that is? What is a date on that? That's a couple of days ago, right, that came out? Just ask on Grok whether that's a couple of days ago or not. I think that's a couple of days ago.

• 26:48Speaker 07

  And Pat, the source is Enton's aggregate. What does that mean?

• 26:50Speaker 01

  No, no, no, it's a legit source, Vinny. This is not, this is not something that they're not doing.

• 26:54Speaker 07

  Enton is him and the aggregate is a database that he carries at CNN, which is shown to be very, very straight.

• 27:00Speaker 01

  Here's the point you have to realize. It's CNN, so it's probably even higher than 83. It's probably 87, 88. You're taking what they said. It's probably 87, 88. So where am I going with this? Trump looks at that number, you know what he says? Ah, to all the 17% that are complaining, I got 83% more than ever in the history. You guys can bitch and whine all you want. I know what I'm doing. I know what I'm doing. He's not listening, paying attention to you.

• 27:23Speaker 07

  Of course.

• 27:23Speaker 01

  At all. When I say you, I don't mean you.

• 27:25Speaker 07

  I know what you mean.

• 27:25Speaker 01

  I mean, the people in the camp that are not happy. He's like, you know what? I got 83. Go ahead. Say whatever you want to say. Here's what we're doing. Here's what we're doing. So that's kind of what I think he did with China and how he handled it. And he's trusting his own instinct. Adam, your thoughts on this?

• 27:39Speaker 07

  So greetings from Jerusalem, ladies and gentlemen. I thought that Vinny absolutely crushed that segment. I thought he was absolutely right. If I was campaigning with Vincent, I would say, I approve this message. Regarding the SAVE Act, I don't understand why it's so complicated. When you have 80% approval rating across the country, that should be an indication that you try to get that passed. And last thing, I totally agree with, with.

• 28:09Speaker 15

  Pat as well, uh, don't watch what Trump says, watch what he does. So they, they often say, don't take Trump literally, but take him seriously. I think there's so much going on behind the scenes that we don't know about. And he's moving mountains and we think he's just basically causing chaos. But I thought you guys crushed that segment.

• 28:30Speaker 01

  That's all you had to say? I love it. Just say you have no comments. I would have moved on. I would have saved some time, but thank you.

• 28:35Speaker 15

  But I appreciate you.

• 28:36Speaker 01

  For once in his life, had nothing to say. Okay. All right. So let's go to the next story I want to get to. Next story I want to get to, since we're already here, is what's going on right now with Tate brothers. Okay. So we have, uh, Andrew and Tristan Tate's lawyer here with us. Joe McBride, Joe, thanks for making the time for being on here with us. I know the crew's going to try to show the video so the audience can see it. Hey, Joe, can you hear us and see us?

• 29:01Speaker 16

  Yes, I can hear you and see you. It's good to see you and, uh, thanks for having me here.

• 29:05Speaker 01

  Of course, anytime. So we got the report, we saw the video. We saw Andrew wearing that beautiful purple shirt that he had on when the US Marshals walked up towards him. And then all of a sudden we saw the numbers coming out saying he is being facing with 42 new charges himself. Tristan 17, 59 criminal, criminal charges. And, and we saw that. The question I, I wanted to ask you is for US Marshals to come. We know Andrew made some strong remarks towards the, uh, Governor DeSantis last time he was on with us. And there is, there is a, there's not a relationship there. There's not a support there, whether it's the, the, the governor or Huthmire. But, and, and even Huthmire, I think James Huthmire made a comment on Twitter about it as well.

• 29:47Speaker 01

  But this is US Marshals. So for this to happen, is this a federal thing that's working with UK? To help get, uh, Tate's or is it a state thing?

• 29:57Speaker 16

  Oh, it's a, it's a federal thing. So anytime you have an extradition warrant going to an international country, it's exclusively going to be held within federal jurisdiction. That's just the way it works as a matter of law. Now typically in these situations, when you have an ongoing relationship, for instance, a, a year or two ago, when the guys first arrived here, there was this big announcement. DeSantis got on stage and, and talked about Andrew and Tristan as if they were not American citizens. They had egg on their face afterwards. But I reached out to the statewide prosecutor's office. I said, here, I'm available. I've worked with him over time. There was a criminal investigation that we dispensed with. And I said, hey, listen, if you ever get into a situation where you want the guys,

• 30:41Speaker 16

  or if there's a warrant and they need to surrender themselves, just let me know. Everybody knows, you just come to me, you let me know, they're not running from anything. They're two of the most famous guys in the world. We'll surrender, we'll come in, it'll be nice, it'll be quiet, it'll be easy. So what happened was a dog and pony show. This could have been avoided. They set these guys up to make it look like the worst possible PR stunt in the world. When they were arrested by the Marshals, look, the Marshals did their job. They were professional. They were courteous. They rolled up on the scene hard body, but that's what they do. They didn't take Andrew and Tristan's phones. They didn't take their electronics. Andrew had $2 million worth of jewelry on his neck. He was able to give it to one of his friends. They conducted themselves with honor. It is the people behind the scenes who set this up.

• 31:26Speaker 16

  It is the people behind the scenes who gave the media and the cameras. Like, why were the cameras there? How did everybody know? Because this only happens when it's a stitch up job. This only happens when they're trying to use the process as the punishment. So to your question, Pat, the Marshals being involved is standard operating procedure, but the way it went down is anything but.

• 31:45Speaker 01

  So, so some people are saying that, you know, the president's been fairly friendly with Tate's. That their son, you know, the administration's been fairly fair with them. But some are saying in this specific case, Marco Rubio doesn't share the same position as others do. Son, you know, the administration's been fairly fair with them. But some are saying in this specific case, Marco Rubio doesn't share the same position as others do. Well, what do you say? Do you have the impression that Marco's behind this? Or this has nothing to do with Marco? I saw the conversations. I saw the questions being asked. I saw online was also saying, maybe this is Marco's hand behind us saying, let's go get him. What, what, what, what do you say about that?

• 32:28Speaker 16

  So I gotta be real careful about what I say here, and I just want to tell you why. We have two sort of tracks here that are sequential and independent from each other. So there's the bail proceeding and the bond proceeding that we're going to litigate right here locally in Miami. We brought on a local team, Black and Serebnik, to help us with that. They're heavy hitters over here. And what I can say about that bail proceeding is very limited according to the local rules and according to the federal rules. But what I can say is that there's a subsequent, uh, approach to the executive branch. Where if that doesn't work out, the appellate process doesn't work out, we get to go to the Secretary of State, who of course is Marco Rubio. So when you hear me talking about the politics, you hear me talking about this is a stitch up job.

• 33:13Speaker 16

  You hear me talking about the unfairness of it. It's a witch hunt. They've, they've beaten criminal charges all over the place and they're taking them to the United Kingdom, where they're not going to get a fair shake. That is First Amendment, public advocacy, where it's politically protected speech on behalf of my clients to appeal to the executive for a subsequent process, not the current one. The current one has to play out, uh, in order for it to me to make sure that if we get to that point where I need to advocate to the Secretary of State, I've already been doing it for a while. So anything I say now isn't me trying to interfere with what's hap, what's happening locally. It's in anticipation of things, if they don't work out, we need to go to the next level. I, uh, involved in the political process. I am involved in politics.

• 33:58Speaker 16

  I've been involved in DC for, for several years now. So we got lots of contacts, lots of relationships there. And this is what I'm hearing. Marco Rubio's got nothing to do with this. He's not behind it. He's not out to get them. There's nothing like that happening. My understanding, for what I've been told, that this is a DeSantis ploy, that Andrew and Tristan are being used to put Rubio and Trump in a very difficult situation. A very difficult situation. On one hand, if you extradite the brothers and if you let them go, you're going to lose a substantial part of your Gen Z base, the manosphere. It's going to be like when you watch Braveheart and he was betrayed at the Battle of Sterling and he had that horrific look on his face. I've been fighting these battles. I've been going to war for you and you betray me at the most horrible time. Okay?

• 34:44Speaker 16

  On the other hand, right, we just have a process that, that needs to play out. And Rubio and Trump have been put in a difficult position, from what I've been told specifically by the DeSantis, Huthmire sort of group of people that, that are down here because they hate each other. And they put Trump and they put Rubio in this difficult position because they don't like them and they're trying to muddy up the, the approval ratings that you were just talking about, the midterms that are coming out in the forthcoming 2028 election. Andrew and Tristan are pawns in a much higher political game right now. And I think as the process plays out, the world's going to be able to see the truth behind what I'm saying.

• 35:20Speaker 01

  Joe, I want to show a clip of the last time when, uh, Andrew was here, we're talking. And what Andrew, friendly words he had to say about DeSantis. Here was his small request he had for the governor. Go ahead.

• 35:31Speaker 17

  I'm an American and I don't owe him shit. And when DeSantis stands up and apologizes to me, when the AG apologizes to me, I'll consider it. And Byron Donalds is a punk too, because he sold out and went on the news and started talking shit. Calling me a human trafficker. I've never been convicted. The point of America in a, in general, the point of democracy is innocent until proven guilty. If they get quizzed about me, if I, if they stand up on the news and they say, what do you think of Andrew Tate? They have a very easy answer. We live in a democracy. It's innocent until proven guilty. I don't know the specifics of his case. What I know is he is not convicted. They don't have to sell out like punks. They don't have to start saying, I'm not welcome here. If the, if the, if the Senator, if the Senator or the governor tells me, I'm not welcome here, you know what?

• 36:14Speaker 17

  Then fucking keep it. I'm not a beg, I'm not desperate. And I don't give a shit if Ron DeSantis likes how I live or not. To be honest, I don't care. I'm an American citizen. I came here. I've convicted no, I've been convicted of no crimes. And for the same reason you won't live in Cali or Mamdammy's, New York, I can't live here until these clowns apologize.

• 36:31Speaker 01

  Pause it right. Yeah. Okay. So, so you see that. So those are the comments that were made. Now, when, when you hear that, we followed the Romania story where the charges were made. And then all of a sudden they couldn't leave. We were there when they couldn't leave. We were at their house in Romania. And then they could leave and then they could travel. So everyone's like, wait a minute. I thought Romania, you had something. What are you doing now? And then now we hear these latest, if you can go back to that New York Post story you were just on a second ago. New charges include 19 for indecent images of a child and extreme porn. So i- i- it's almost as if they're reaching to find something, but the average individual's watching is saying, what the hell is going on here? Didn't something happen in Romania? What is the difference between the Romania, uh, charges and the one in UK?

• 37:16Speaker 16

  So I just want to unpack two things that you just addressed there. First and foremost, that clip of Andrew, bravo Andrew. That is how a free American citizen speaks when he hasn't done nothing wrong. When you actually haven't done anything wrong, you have zero fear of law enforcement. You have zero fear of investigations because you know that you're innocent. So he's saying, go ahead, look into me. And by the way, we sat down with the statewide prosecutor's office and handed them the entire file. We paused our defamation case that we're litigating in Palm Beach in order for them to get a look. They took a look and they said, that's not, that there's nothing here. We've consistently had nothing to hide. With regard to what's going on in Romania, they add charges.

• 37:59Speaker 16

  They put them in a locker somewhere, they keep these guys in jail. We complain about it. It gets in before a competent judge. The judge looks at it and he said, and the judge said, these allegations are garbage. You have no corroborating evidence. Moreover, in Romania, they brought about 30 or 31 women in to try to testify against these guys. And they told these women, if you don't assign yourself or become a part of the victim list here, at least initially, we're going to put you in as corroborators. We're going to put you in on this conspiracy. We're going to lock you up and throw away the key if you don't participate. Once those women have been given the chance, they've all spoken out and said, this is bunk. It is garbage. It is a setup.

• 38:40Speaker 16

  Women are online making statements right now in front of the courthouse in Romania. I've been listed as a victim. I'm not a victim. I was in that video with the belt and that was just play. That was Andrew and I's relationship. So we've been able to articulate to the court there and to the public that that case was built on fiction. It was built on nothing, so much so that we sued the wrongful accuser who initiated those charges out there in Palm Beach. And we've been litigating a case in Palm Beach for defamation for the past three years. That case is six months away from going to trial. If we go to trial and we win in that case, the narrative against them is over. It collapses.

• 39:22Speaker 16

  Everybody who's ever called him a sex trafficker or a rapist, a pornographer, all these things, it goes away because we were, we're in front of a great judge there, Judge Joseph Curley, G Joseph Curley. He's a former trial lawyer. He's on the law. He's not political. And we haven't even lost a material hearing there in three years. We're doing great and I'm not overselling anything. That is a fact. So if we win there, the enemies of Tate, they all get defeated at one time. So this is a political chop up job. This is a political kidnapping. They want to grab Andrew and Tristan, get them out of an American jurisdiction into England and not Romania, because they're being heard fairly over there now to make sure that the truth never sees the light of day.

• 40:06Speaker 16

  So they're repackaging the arguments and now they're adding sexual images of a minor and all this salacious defamatory stuff, because this, these are the worst and most horrible things that you could ever say about a man. Sexual assault is the worst, but now you want to equivocate him to Epstein? That is the play here. But I think any reasonable minded person who has followed this story with any degree of attention understands that these types of allegations with minors and pornography, child stuff, has never been a part of the dialogue. So all of a sudden, this is here now? Most people are going, yo, they're going way above and beyond to smear these guys, to lock them up. And this is the plan.

• 40:48Speaker 16

  They get them to the United Kingdom, they threaten them with 100 years in jail, or they say you can have a plea offer for maybe two to five. You'll be out in a year and a half or two years. If they take that deal, they lose all their wealth, they lose their reputation. And by the way, the allegations never have to get proven in court because they admit that they're guilty. Governments force pleas from people all the time. That's what they want to do because they're losing the war of public opinion and they're losing the war in every court where you have a competent judge who actually takes a look at the facts.

• 41:21Speaker 01

  And Joe, let me ask you, that was a great breakdown to know there. And the last thing as we're looking at this, and they're going through this whole situation you're talking about, how long are you guesstimating for this thing to take? How long, how long are they going to be staying here, going back? What do you think that process is going to be?

• 41:38Speaker 16

  That's a, that's an important question, Pat, and I'm glad that you raised it. So typically it takes about 60 days. Right now, we went in front of the judge the other day and we didn't even ask for them to get out. We just said, Judge, we'd like to have a private conversation with you, attorneys only, on the 27th of this month. The judge granted that order. We're going to have a scheduling order for a conference there where we will look at the briefing schedule going forward. We have a lot of good arguments. There are different things that the court needs to look at with regard to extradition. And the prong that we're going to be talking about is special circumstances. And we feel we have a meritorious case that we can prove to the judge that, hey, listen, one of the primary considerations here is a flight risk.

• 42:20Speaker 16

  Generally, flight risk is a speculative analysis. No need to speculate here. These guys have been on judicial release in Romania, traveling the world, going back once a month and never missed a court appearance in their life. They're not a flight risk. These are guys who don't run, they step in and they lean into the process. If they don't get bond, and the presumption is against bond, but we believe that we have special circumstances where we can articulate to the court that bond is appropriate, especially because they have to litigate that case in Palm Beach. But if we don't get bond, then the appellate process begins and then the appeal to the executive begins. And once we have a habeas petition in, that could take at least a year. They typically take a year in Florida and everywhere else.

• 43:02Speaker 16

  So we'd be looking at anywhere between 60 days to a year to get this squared away, depending on how the bond issue shakes out.

• 43:09Speaker 01

  You know, it's amazing, Joe, I'll finish with this, is whether these allegations are true or not, it's their job to go proven and your job to defend your client. That's what has to happen, right? But if, if two years ago we ran a poll on Tate's, whether people support, our audience, people supported him or not, 80% would be on their side. The guys just ran a poll right now and our audience, remember, this is a supportive audience. This is not like it's a audience you're on a different place. It's at 50/50. 50/50, they support them, 50 doesn't support them. So what does this mean? This means either these things are working against them

• 43:50Speaker 01

  or it means that we got work to do to make sure, you know, arguments are made for the audience to sit there and say, they're innocent. I mean, but, but the audience is definitely speaking up. And it's not like it's an audience that hasn't seen their work multiple times here. I think we probably have hosted them more than anybody else has on their show. And we've had a lot of great conversations together. But something to think about to see where the audience is at as these stories are, you know, of course, now it's going to get back into the news cycle, but we're going to be talking about this on a regular basis. To me, UK has no credibility because when you have 250,000 people that have been raped, girls that have been raped, and we know the percentage of 87% of them being these Pakistani rape gangs,

• 44:34Speaker 01

  and you do nothing about that, and the first Muslim that you pretty much go after is Andrew Tate, which becomes comical, you go after him, but not all the other? They lose credibility. They lose credibility there. But there is a percentage of the conservative camp in America that's sitting there saying, look, I don't know. I feel like there's something going on here, Vinny.

• 44:51Speaker 04

  And just really, really quick, Joe, so he did a podcast, Andrew Tate, recently. I forgot the individual.

• 44:57Speaker 01

  Jake Neal.

• 44:58Speaker 04

  Jake Neal, three hour podcast. Jack Neal, I'm sorry. Explaining that they're coming for him. He kept a secret until something happened to him and then this happened to him. On the podcast, he said something along the lines that he rejected a $50 million offer to drop everything from, you know, the powers that be and go away. So my only question is, he's getting offered this stuff. Did he know that this was going to happen? Did he, did he have any inclination that this was going to go down? Because, you know, why, why do an emergency podcast if nothing is going to go wrong? It's almost as if he knew something was coming.

• 45:28Speaker 16

  So anytime you reject that offer, you know something is going to come at some point. He rejected that offer, I want to say somewhere around 2022, 2023, probably 2022. And he had several of them. That's a fact. That's the truth. When you reject that offer, it's only a matter of time before they come. And they started coming and they're keeping, and they're, and they're going to keep coming until they get what they want. They did it to Trump.

• 45:53Speaker 01

  They're doing it to Tate and to your viewers with all due respect because I admire you and I appreciate your your concern. Listen to what we are saying. When I first started litigating the January 6 cases, I was the only lawyer who stepped up and spoke out and said, hey, what's going on here is wrong. There are a lot of problems with these cases. These guys are being held in solitary confinement for months and years at a time. Eventually, there's problems with what happened at the Capitol. There's more than meets the eye. The media is working, especially the leftist media, and certainly at some point Fox News, hand in glove with the Department of Justice to proper a selective narrative to the public

• 46:34Speaker 01

  to impugn 2,000 American citizens and call them domestic terrorists, insurrectionists, and all these things. It took us three years to change the narrative. It took us a couple of years as well to make the Trump pardons palatable to Trump, palatable and digestible to the American public, and he signed them on day one because they were just and because they were proper and because that's what justice demanded. I understand that it's difficult and I understand that the average American citizen, when they hear the Department of Justice saying something or a government like the UK saying that these charges are real and you should listen, that that comes with a certain amount of institutional credibility. But when politics are behind the accusations, when politics are in secret NGO money is

• 47:18Speaker 01

  funding this out now international persecution of these guys, you gotta step back and you gotta say, has this happened before? Yes, it's happened before. Look, look no further than the president that you currently have in power. Andrew has over 150 or maybe 165,000 people enrolled in his real world college. That is an army of of millions of those men's of those men or those boys are right here in America. That is the power to swing an election. That is generational power over future elections, both domestically and abroad. The powers that be know this. United Kingdom knows this. The enemies of Andrew and Tristan in the conservative movement and the Gen Z in America know this, and they want to lock

• 48:02Speaker 01

  them up and throw away the key to stop the type of pro masculine, pro traditional values. Go out there, pro capitalism. You can be all you be if you love God and if you love your country and if you apply yourself in life, the sky is the limit. The future is bright, like you like to say, Pat. And they want to kill him, throw him in jail, lock him up and throw away the key and call him a child rapist and call him a child molester for the specific purpose of discrediting him to make sure that his voice and his viewpoints are silenced once and forever. And if they could do it to him, the next podcaster or the next young man that wants to step up, guess what? The warning is if they do it to him, they're gonna do it to you as well. Joe, thank you for your time. Great analysis, and we will follow up with you as there's

• 48:45Speaker 01

  new things formulating as well. But again, thank you for your time. Pat, Tom, Vinnie, Adam, it's a pleasure. Thank you. God bless you. You as well. You as well. Take care. There you have it. Um, hearing it straight from the Tate brothers' lawyer who is representing them. I want to get into the next story. The next story is an interesting one that, you know, we love to talk about the WNBA, right? But, you know, every once in a while, the WNBA does some stories they almost have to talk about. By the way, Katelyn Clark scored 45 points and 10 assists a few days ago. She had five three pointers in a game yesterday in the first half. But this is about Sophie Cunningham. And this girl Sophie, there's something very special about her. I want to show you three

• 49:24Speaker 01

  clips back to back to back. Sophie was being asked about transgender in women's sports, and she says, look, I just don't think we need to have men competing in women's sports. And then they came back in the article and they said, hey, it seems like you have a lot of hate for transgender. So eventually she's like, let me just do an interview and answer the questions here. And she did. And she broke it down on what she had to say about men in women's sports. This is very common sense. Then the next clip, I texted these clips to you, by the way. So you just go to the clips, you and Connor, you'll see that I sent it to you. Should be easy to find. And the next clip I want to play for you is Megan Rapinoe on what she said on The View. So these are three clips. And last but

• 50:08Speaker 01

  not least, a young girl breaking down saying, what are you talking about? What are we talking about here with these clips? So Humberto, if you got them, let's go to them. Do you have it ready? Uh, if you want to go to, I literally texted all of them to you this morning and checked with you that you got them. Okay, go to that one right there. Top one right there. There you go. Let's play this. Go watch this, folks. So this is again Sophie Cunningham being asked about her hate for transgenders. Look how she responds.

• 50:34Speaker 18

  ESPN, you talked about wanting to protect young girls who shouldn't have to go against biological men. Just can you expand your viewpoint on that?

• 50:42Speaker 19

  I mean, I think I said what I said. I think it's kind of common sense. Um, and I think I'll always believe in that. I think it's really important to protect children. Um, and that's little girls who are also involved in that category. And so, um, I stand on what I said, and I always believe that.

• 50:58Speaker 18

  Yeah. Do you see your advocacy on that, like, taking any form going forward?

• 51:02Speaker 19

  You know, I don't know. I didn't. I'm not a very political person, but I do have beliefs. I have morals and I'll always stand on those and be true to who I am. And, um, I, I think people are gonna take it how they want to take it, but I've never even really said anything about that. And so, uh, when it comes just to protecting young girls in sport and women in sport, um, I'm, I feel very strongly about that. I think that's why you have Title IX. That's why, um, you have some of the greats in women's sports. If Title IX and women's sports weren't protected, then you wouldn't hear about any type of women in sport. And so, um, I think in the future, it's just really, um, important to protect.

• 51:36Speaker 20

  Do you think, I guess, like that it goes against perhaps, some people might say, hey, for the trans community, this could be something that could come back on us or be targeted against us. Like, how do you, I guess, view that sort of critique?

• 51:50Speaker 01

  What a question.

• 51:51Speaker 19

  You know, like I said, I extend love and, um, I don't dislike anyone. Like, I think there is room for absolutely everyone here, and I think there's room to love everyone. And, um, I truly think when you get people in the same room, you have conversations, you actually have a lot in common with a lot, a lot in common with a lot of people. And so.

• 52:06Speaker 01

  So you can pause it right there. What does that sound like? To me, a lot of common sense. Fairness. And you know, she has her arms crossed because she knows it's coming. Like, hey, I know you're trying to get me and I know what you're trying to do. Now go to the next clip. Now, this is Megan Rapinoe, okay? It's a complete 180 of a position on The View and watch what she has to say. Who do you think is better for our young girls, by the way? Go for it.

• 52:28Speaker 21

  Pull back a little. At first, it was like, well, nobody likes women's sports and nobody wants to watch it. Or there was, you know, abuse happening and nobody seemed to care. Now, all of a sudden, we're gonna use a vulnerable group of people in the trans community to be like, oh, well, we're just protecting women's sports and we care so much about it, when the Heritage Foundation is now gonna go after Title IX. So is it about reproductive rights or is it about just women's rights in general? Uh, we're seeing the rollback of Roe v. Wade. Marriage equality, I feel like, is getting put back on the table. That was settled law. And so all of these things, like, yes, they're going after trans people in sports and they're using this as a wedge issue because we love sports and, you know, we don't want our little girls to be unsafe in sports. And it's like, unsafe from who?

• 53:11Speaker 21

  But, okay. Um, but now we're using this as like an overarching thing, when really what we're attacking women. We're saying, if you look like this as a woman.

• 53:21Speaker 01

  No one's attacking women. No one's attacking women. If you were born with a dangling, we don't want you to compete with girls. That's all it is. And by the way, I don't have to say this. You can pause it right there because we can hear it. I don't have to say it right there. I want you to hear it from this young girl. She's the one that's being, you know, that has the most at risk. I sent you the clip on the next one. If you want to pull it up. This, this is the one that you want to see. Megan Rapinoe. She is siding with what Sophie has to say. So just watch this commercial, these highlights. I don't know if we can play these highlights or not. We'll play them anyways if we get a, you know, a ding. I, this is such an important message for our young girls to protect. I got two boys and two girls. I don't want my girls to be competing with boys. I want them to

• 54:03Speaker 01

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  Would your toil, dedication, and sacrifice have paid off? Would the fame and adoration have been yours? Would you have become one of the most iconic female players of all kind? If you had to play against nails? So, why are you asking me to?

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• 57:04Speaker 04

  Powerful, man. That's powerful.

• 57:06Speaker 01

  Common sense. This shouldn't be Democrat and Republican. Like, if there's an issue that shouldn't be political, this is it. Everybody should be on the same page with this. Everybody should be like, this makes a lot of sense. So, Tom, for somebody that's got two girls, okay, and one of them right now swims competitively, how do you process this message with what Sophie said, Rappino said, and that young girl said at the end?

• 57:28Speaker 07

  I'll give you three things, and I'll do them right in order. Common sense from Sophie Cunningham, as we continue to see, along with compassion for fellow human beings, there's room to love everybody. So, common sense and compassion. Then I see, you know, structuring the victim groups by Meghan Rappino. Just break down what she says. Don't take my word for it. Don't analyze Tom. Analyze Meghan. Analyze her own words. She's creating, we need these victims to bound together as victims. We can't have the trans outside the victim club because then we lose leverage. And she even said a subgroup. She didn't call them people. She called them a subgroup. That's what the Democrats do. That's what they do for voting block. That's what they do.

• 58:12Speaker 07

  And then lastly, this is a brilliant ad that points out the obvious, and it comes full circle. This is the little girl with a common sense question exactly along the line of Sophie Cunningham. Listen, you can, I go to the swim meets and I cheer for the men and I cheer for the women that are at my daughter's school. But I tell you, I'm looking at these 13-year-old men, 14-year-old men. I look at their shoulder development. I look at their wingspan. I look at their size. Look at the size of their feet. I look at them and I'm like, how on earth could my daughter be competing with them? The answer is she couldn't, you know? It's not sexual. It's mechanical. Just look at the size of the male body.

• 58:55Speaker 07

  Just the mechanics of longer arms on a butterfly, longer arms on a backstroke. That's just all that it is, and it's just common sense. And by the way, when people bring up Title IX, it is an insult to the women that work so hard for Title IX in college athletics, to give women and women's programs an opportunity at the college level now to use Title IX and spin it. Meghan Rappino, looking at you, and then to say as if somehow, oh, the Heritage Foundation, that, stop it. Stop it. It's not fair. It's not logical. And if you went to a soccer game, you go to anything at a high school and look at the men over on this side playing soccer, women swimming, it doesn't matter, Pat.

• 59:37Speaker 07

  So, me as a father, I can see it with my own eyes. It's common sense, and so can everybody else. But this group is using it politically because they need it.

• 59:47Speaker 01

  I agree. Adam, your thoughts?

• 59:49Speaker 15

  Well, first, let me just compliment Sophie Cunningham. They're very, not very often do we say about an NBA player that they're going to be bigger than basketball. I don't know how long her career is going to be in the WNBA. The average professional career lasts three to five years. Something tells me this girl, this lady, Sophie Cunningham, she's going to have an afterlife, no doubt. And I'm so glad that she's on the same team with the best player in the WNBA. So, hopefully she rubs off on her, because one thing I didn't like about Katelyn Clark is she kind of apologized for, I don't remember, whiteness or whatever it was, and I hope she rubs off on her.

• 1:00:29Speaker 15

  But I have a, I have a suggestion because we keep saying the same thing. Don't we keep saying the same thing, guys? Guys are different than girls. Why we haven't played each other? They shouldn't be competing? Just have the best woman's team play against any NBA team. The best WNBA team, put the All-Star team together from the WNBA and have them play the worst NBA team. Better yet, the worst college basketball team, and just have them play the game. And just see for yourself, guys. You say, don't just tell me, show me. Remember when Billie Jean King, I think, played like Jimmy Connors back in the day? Play a game. Show what actually will happen, and let's stop talking about this nonsense.

• 1:01:12Speaker 07

  That was Bobby Riggs. That was Bobby Riggs, Billie Jean King.

• 1:01:14Speaker 15

  Bobby Riggs? Thank you. But just have them play. And Meghan Rappino, maybe you'll play against the men. Put your whole squad together. I think they literally played against high school boys and lost badly.

• 1:01:27Speaker 04

  The FC Dallas under 15 boys squad beat the US Women's National Team in a scrimmage. Yeah, whooped them. High school.

• 1:01:35Speaker 15

  Even Serena Williams even said that she would not be the number one tennis player in the world. She would, lucky to be a top 100. So, stop, guys. I get it. You're trans. You want rights. I get it. I get it. I get it. But stop with the nonsense and just let them play the game, and let's see what happens. The only thing I don't want, I don't want a UFC fight. I don't want Amanda Nunez getting in the ring with Josh Hoke or anything like that, or Sugar Sean even. That could get ugly. But play in a WNBA game and let's see what happens, ladies and gentlemen.

• 1:02:07Speaker 04

  First of all, it's just embar, Meghan Rappino, Pat, if I had, if I rubbed the genie lamp and the genie was like three wishes, my one wish would be what that little girl was saying, that all the, all the games, the important game that she played, she was playing against men pretending to be women, and she would have won nothing. You never would have known who this person is. Okay? And it's embarrassing as a species, as a human being, and just as a nation, that the fact that we're debating, we're even debating that men should be playing in women's sports, says everything about our society, okay? It's not progress. We're not moving forward. We're going backwards, okay? We reached a point where people are afraid, like, to say what every, Adam, and you made a good point, what every human being is saying from the beginning of time. Men are different than women. Full stop.

• 1:02:51Speaker 04

  I'm sorry. It is what it is, okay? Women's sports exist for a reason, okay? They exist because we have physical advantages, okay? It's not hate. It's not discrimination. It's reality, okay? And then, Tom, we talked about this the other day at dinner. When a society starts denying basic truths, you know something is seriously wrong. And I believe like the devil, Satan himself, is laughing his hot evil butt off, watching us argue something that should never be argued or questioned in the first place. And, Tom, the Bible calls the devil what? The father of lies. And one of the greatest tricks was convincing man that he didn't exist, okay? Right? And confusion is one of the greatest weapons, bro. And we're watching it play out right in front of us.

• 1:03:33Speaker 04

  It shouldn't be a debate. We shouldn't even be talking about it, but they keep bringing it up. And Scripture says this, Pat. Satan is the ruler of this world for a time, and when I look around, it's easy to see. Look what he's doing. When good is called evil, evil is called good, common sense is treated like it's extremism, okay? And people who speak the truth are the ones under attack. I'm so proud of her, Pat, and I love that you did the body language part. She knows she's going to go into battle, but she's sticking up for herself, and I love it. But the good news is Satan never wins at the end, Pat, and Jesus Christ is going to win. And the truth stops being the truth just because people vote against it or you have purple hair, angry lesbian chick mad at the world.

• 1:04:11Speaker 01

  There it is. I'm proud of what she's doing, and it's good that the league has something like that. Adam?

• 1:04:17Speaker 15

  Well, amen, Vinnie. I hear you on that. Pat, when you interviewed Khabib, I remember you asked him a question like, so how many genders are in Russia? And he was like, eh, duh. Like, do you remember that conversation?

• 1:04:31Speaker 01

  Of course I do.

• 1:04:31Speaker 15

  What did he say?

• 1:04:32Speaker 01

  He said only two. I said, listen, I mean, you guys got to get better. We got 100 plus. You know, you guys, you guys got some, you got some catching up to do. But he said, no, man, we're common sense. We got two of them. All right, let me get to the next story. I thought that was a great story for mothers to show their daughters and fathers to show their daughters about, hey, listen to how classy this Sophie Cunningham is. Go out there and win and do your thing. And I love it. I just love it. I love what, what she had to say. And we ran a poll, okay? What is a better role model for young women, our audience? You ready? What do you think was making Rappino?

• 1:05:09Speaker 07

  2%.

• 1:05:10Speaker 01

  5%. Sophie Cunningham was 95%.

• 1:05:14Speaker 15

  Weird. She deserves every point.

• 1:05:17Speaker 04

  You want her on a poll and how much of that 2% that voted that have purple hair as well in our audience?

• 1:05:21Speaker 01

  5%. Give the 5% respect on what we got. But let me get to the next one. So, there's a video that went viral on X about a man that smacked a guy in the head for, for, you know, what do you call it? For, um,

• 1:05:36Speaker 04

  Not standing for the national anthem.

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• 1:08:00Speaker 01

  Watch this.

• 1:08:02Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:08:18Speaker 01

  Go back again to see the smack, it was zero to ten, how hard it was?

• 1:08:21Speaker 07

  At the end there, he goes, "Thank you so much for standing."

• 1:08:29Speaker 07

  Oh, he hits him.

• 1:08:32Speaker 01

  Okay, can you pause it? Okay, so, is this a patriot? Or is this a, what's the opposite?

• 1:08:40Speaker 07

  It's assault in the third degree.

• 1:08:42Speaker 01

  Is this a patriot, or is this assault? Run the poll. Run the poll with our audience, and guys, be honest. Be honest when you see this, because if a part of you watches this, you're like, "Oh, my goodness." Like, this is maybe, yesterday, I go to the urgent care here, because we take one of our kids, you know, uh, I don't know what it was, but we went there, scored away, and the doctor's from New York, and he's telling me all these stories. And the kid, one of my kids, the doctor asked him a question, and this doctor, you can tell, he's like a hardcore, you can tell a military person raised him. And he, my kid says to the doctor, "Yeah." And I said, "Yes." And, and the kid says, "Yes." And the doctor looks at me, says,

• 1:09:24Speaker 01

  "Listen, if it was back in the days, you know, my dad would have smacked me upside the head, it would have been very different."

• 1:09:29Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 1:09:29Speaker 01

  He says, "Thank you." I said, "Yeah, I mean, that's old school. Nowadays, we don't smack, maybe we'll sidekick, or we'll..."

• 1:09:35Speaker 07

  A pinch, a pinch on the leg?

• 1:09:37Speaker 01

  Or something. But Tom, what do you think when you see this? Do you look at the saying, "This is a patriot," or "This is an assault"? Arrest the man.

• 1:09:45Speaker 07

  So, we live in a world, um, where the United States stands on top of the stack, with the, the best constitution, the best framework. And, in that, there's freedom of speech. But there's also consequences. And, this gentleman in the back, felt that this gentleman in the front was disrespecting the National Anthem. And, you know, nobody, uh, smacked, although many people wanted to, some of the NFL players that wouldn't stand for the National Anthem, that kneeled instead, in the name of, you know, some protest. But, I want to know what the guy said. Apparently, he gave him an answer. There was something going on, where he gave some answer.

• 1:10:29Speaker 07

  And it doesn't look like he, you know, did anything really volatile, it doesn't look like a little motion. And the guy just basically said, "I've had enough." So, the guy that's sitting for the National Anthem, you just understand, sometimes people have had enough.

• 1:10:41Speaker 01

  You still haven't answered my question. Is this guy a patriot, or is this assault? Like, are you okay with this happening?

• 1:10:49Speaker 07

  Yes, I am.

• 1:10:50Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:10:50Speaker 07

  That guy is a proud citizen, and did not feel that this was a respectful move, leans over to talk, something gets said, and he had enough. Now, did the guy sitting there, do you have your right to freedom of speech? Sure, you have your right to freedom of speech. But exercising freedom of speech in the wrong way can get your ass kicked.

• 1:11:10Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:11:10Speaker 07

  In the wrong thing.

• 1:11:11Speaker 01

  Adam, where are you at with this?

• 1:11:13Speaker 07

  Oh, PBD, this was my top story, man, I love this story so much. I want to, my grandfather's no longer with me, I want that guy to be my grandfather. You have no idea how much respect I have for that grandfather, zero percent assault, all just American patriotism. And by the way, when that grandfather smacked that kid, to stand up for the National Anthem at a baseball game, everyone around him looked at the kid and publicly shamed him. Because they know, "Get your ass up for the flag." By the way, you have every right, like Tom said, to protest the National Anthem. You have every right to potentially even burn the flag, but you also have every right for grandpa to get you an ass-whupping. That's not a bad grandpa, right there, that's like the goat of grandpas right there.

• 1:11:56Speaker 07

  He didn't have older friends of his fighting World War II for this nonsense. So, to that guy, I salute him, he's an absolute patriot, and I completely agree with bad grandpa.

• 1:12:07Speaker 04

  Well, Pat, he is a patriot, but he could have been arrested for assault in the third degree. Like, and by the way, everybody has their freaking First Amendment right, you could do whatever you want, doesn't mean everyone has to respect it and stay quiet. And you know, Pat, as a veteran, as a patriot, seeing anybody disrespect the flag or the National Anthem drives me bananas. People are sick and tired of watching, you know, people mock the country that gave them the freedom to do it in the first place? Like, and you guys made a great point, so I'm not gonna beat a dead horse. You're free to make your statement, but don't act shocked when someone else makes theirs. I like what he did, but at the same time, Pat, if that guy wanted to press charges, he could. But the funniest thing that nobody's talking about, what if that guy was actually deaf and had no idea what the hell was going on?

• 1:12:50Speaker 07

  Oh, stop.

• 1:12:51Speaker 04

  And just...

• 1:12:51Speaker 07

  Oh, and didn't notice thirty-five thousand people standing up?

• 1:12:55Speaker 04

  He was on his phone.

• 1:12:55Speaker 01

  You know, yesterday, we watched a, a movie called Legend.

• 1:13:00Speaker 07

  Yes.

• 1:13:00Speaker 01

  And it's the story of the two Cray Twins. And it's played by Tom Hardy. Ronnie and Ray, is it Ronnie and...

• 1:13:07Speaker 07

  Reggie.

• 1:13:08Speaker 01

  Reggie and Ronnie. And one of the ones was gay. One of the two Cray Twins was bisexual, and he liked younger boys.

• 1:13:16Speaker 07

  Yeah, like the Krasenstein, maybe? I don't know.

• 1:13:18Speaker 01

  No, no, they specifically told me they were not, because I thought I had the impression they were not.

• 1:13:23Speaker 07

  My bad, my bad.

• 1:13:24Speaker 01

  So, in the movie, in this movie, you see what they do to the city. Yeah, these are criminals. And, but I wonder, if the Cray Twins were around today in London, would, would those two-hundred-and-fifty-thousand girls have gotten raped? I don't know.

• 1:13:41Speaker 04

  I don't think so.

• 1:13:41Speaker 01

  Would there have been a certain level of fear, for gangsters who are not afraid of going to prison and paying the price, to say, "Don't touch these girls. You touch these girls, it's gonna be bad for you." You know, when, when, when you watch this video, and this man smacks the kid in the head and says, "Stand up,"

• 1:14:01Speaker 01

  uh, there's something very attractive about it. I don't know why. There is. Listen, if you love America, you're proud of this country, what it's done, and the freedoms it's given you, stand up. Now, somebody would say, if that was a linebacker, six-four, two-fifty, maybe the guy doesn't smack him upside the head.

• 1:14:21Speaker 07

  Maybe just ask him, "Hey, can you please stand?"

• 1:14:22Speaker 01

  Can you please stand? But can you go to the comments section? Because I don't want to be a, a place where we're all agreeing everything, and we're not looking at what people that disagree with us. So, go a little bit lower, and let's read some of these comments. The, uh, the, "Though I disagree with young guy not standing up National Anthem, it's an assault, and the old guy should be charged for crime." I would have made that, uh, old, knock me out, revel him for brainwashed boomer asshole that he is, before I, okay, that's probably a bot. No, no, the guy that's got all those numbers. Matter of fact, go on the account, go on John Doe's account, can you go on John Doe's account?

• 1:14:55Speaker 07

  Satanic anthem.

• 1:14:57Speaker 01

  Five following, yeah, so that's a bot, so go back. Go back and let's see, because some of these are real, though. "I hope he gets arrested for assault. Standing for the anthem is not law, morons. Don't forget the National Anthem was written by slave owners celebrating winning a war that allowed slavery to continue."

• 1:15:13Speaker 07

  That's so stupid.

• 1:15:14Speaker 01

  By the way, this is his account, this is what your account shows. "Don't forget the National Anthem was written..." People use the word patriot so loosely nowadays. So, being patriotic is punching someone just because, wow, I mean, the algorithms, Alberto, favor all the negatives. Where's one positive? Do you have one positive that comes up?

• 1:15:34Speaker 07

  Yes, I just saw it, I just saw it. Keep going, keep going, Tom.

• 1:15:36Speaker 01

  Was all, uh, recents, let's see what comes up, that's... "This is called assault, and your right-wing snowflakes would piss your pants if this was..." "This is assault, gay-ass boomer conversation is..."

• 1:15:48Speaker 07

  That's another one of those.

• 1:15:49Speaker 01

  Great, that's what the younger generation needs. Snap them out of their attitudes, teach them... Again, that's what I'm telling you, it's not fifty-fifty. Just so you know. A lot of people are like, "This is not cool to do so." But, uh, for somebody that doesn't stand up...

• 1:16:04Speaker 07

  What did our audience say?

• 1:16:05Speaker 01

  Uh, did you run the poll? What, what's the number on the polls? Let's take a look at what the polls show up.

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• 1:18:23Speaker 07

  Do you agree with the slapping? 63%. Yes.

• 1:18:26Speaker 01

  2 to 1.

• 1:18:27Speaker 07

  Really?

• 1:18:28Speaker 01

  63% likes to be slapped. All right. I mean, listen, we'd like to see you at the networking event next Wednesday.

• 1:18:38Speaker 01

  We play the National Anthem and we get Dan walking around. That's Dan's job. Dan and Michael going around, boom, boom, boom.

• 1:18:43Speaker 07

  You made an important point about the movies, and I'll just make one quick point here. Sometimes, you know, criminal elements have a truth about them that we all actually kind of agree with. And what you said about they wouldn't have tolerated that in the UK. Well, I'll tell you, the state of California has known that child molesters in prison, that the Hispanic gangs, gangs that are overwhelmingly Catholic, they murder child molesters in California prisons because they feel that that crime is just above. And so your point about criminals in certain times would take things into their own hands and do things, you're absolutely correct, and it happens even today.

• 1:19:19Speaker 01

  Yeah, I agree. I agree. Okay, let's go to the next one. Next one I want to get into is Iran and a different angle with Iran. So the president came out and tweeted something saying for every time Iran does anything to any ships in Strait of Hormuz, here's what we're going to do to you. From this point forward, anytime the IRGC shoots at a ship in Strait of Hormuz, whether it's by missile, rocket, drone, or any other device or weapon, the US will bomb and destroy one bridge or power plant, including those located next to or in the capital city of Tehran. Thank you for your attention to this matter. So now, you see that story. They're going back and forth.

• 1:20:02Speaker 01

  Yesterday, the president is being interviewed and somebody, a lady asks and says, it doesn't look like Iran is calling you to want to do a deal. And the president says, how do you know? So what, do you have that clip? Do you know which one I'm talking about? It doesn't look like Iran is calling you to want to do a deal. It says, actually, I'm curious, how do you know? How do you know that? And the lady got flustered, she was stuck. Okay, a reporter asks, do you have that? Click on that to see if that's the one? I don't think that's the one.

• 1:20:36Speaker 01

  I can't even hear it, by the way, just so you know.

• 1:20:41Speaker 01

  Oh, do you want to? No, no, if I can hear it, I'll tell you if it's the one or not. Okay, I'll try to find it myself.

• 1:20:46Speaker 24

  Do you believe that Iran has moved nuclear centrifuges into Pickaxe Mountain? And when you say?

• 1:20:52Speaker 01

  No, this isn't it. This isn't it. So I'll find a clip, I'll send it to you. It's important on how he responds to it, but when you look at the story with Iran, on what they're saying, and you look at gas prices today, Tom, what is the crude oil right now? What's the price? Is it 99 or 98?

• 1:21:08Speaker 07

  We are, we are, we are getting close to 100 on, on British called Brent Crude North Sea, and then WTI, West Texas Intermediate, we're over 90. So we are, remember, we were back at 67 two and a half weeks ago.

• 1:21:20Speaker 01

  Yes, we were.

• 1:21:21Speaker 07

  Three weeks ago, thinking, wow, we're within 75 cents of the week before the war started, like February 21st. And now we're all the way back to this, both sides knocking on 95 to 100?

• 1:21:34Speaker 01

  So when you see this, can you, I'm going to read the Houthis story and Tom, I want you to go into it, because Tom, you got a completely different angle where you think it's going on. Houthis say they attacked Saudi tankers in the Red Sea, threatening new checkpoint in Iran war. This is a Reuters story, okay? And here's, here's what the Houthis are doing. They're kind of helping Saudi in a very weird way. The Iranian-aligned Houthis said Thursday that they struck two Saudi oil tankers as part of a naval blockade on Saudi, threatening to create a second checkpoint on global oil supplies alongside Iran's near closure of the Strait of Hormuz. The Houthis identified the vessels as Ansalia and Leila. Saudi state news agency SPA cited an official source saying that Ansalia was struck, causing

• 1:22:18Speaker 01

  a fire at the bow, and Leila was attacked, remained unconfirmed. A maritime security source said Ansalia transmitted a distress call, reporting it had been struck by a missile near the Saudi port of Jizan late Wednesday. Tom, what's going on here with Houthis and Saudi?

• 1:22:33Speaker 07

  Well, in the Middle, Middle East, you pick a country and there's usually what you see publicly, and there's all these subtext. And this is what I'm reading here. The Saudis want to continue with their enrichment of uranium. They want to be a nuclear power. India is, Pakistan is, Israel has been and never acknowledged publicly, but has been. And so Saudi is like, on one side, they want to level the playing field and they want to be a nuclear power as well. Well, they also have centrifuges. Is Hassan familiar? So does Iran. They also have these labs that are trying to make more enrichment to the uranium. So does Iran. And so now you have these Saudi vessels in there that get attacked by the Houthis.

• 1:23:16Speaker 07

  I am sitting there wondering, does the Saudi version of the CIA, Mossad, are they out there? Because we know our CIA, a bunch of stuff in Latin America in the 80s and 90s around communism, and there's all kinds of things that happen. And we know MI6, and we know Mossad. So why would it be so crazy that the Saudis have their version of that that are out there kind of maybe indirectly seeing that the Houthis get help? So that's like, oh my gosh, one of my ships has been attacked. See, United States, I really need to be enriching uranium too. I'm getting attacked because I'm kind of your friend here. I think there's subtext going around here and, you know, I don't have any secret cables from, you know, foreign governments, but I'll tell you, I look at this and it just doesn't smell right.

• 1:24:01Speaker 07

  How do the Houthis get armed when their source of money in arms, Iran, is truly busy with what's going on with us?

• 1:24:08Speaker 01

  Yeah, and by the way, while that's going on, I want to show this clip. This is the clip I was talking about. Go for it.

• 1:24:13Speaker 24

  Mr. President, there are no signs that Iran is ready to stop fighting. So what is the plan? Is the plan to just keep bombing until they give up?

• 1:24:22Speaker 02

  What, do you know something that I don't know?

• 1:24:24Speaker 24

  Well, they continue to attack our allies and kill Americans.

• 1:24:26Speaker 02

  You know what the dialogue is behind the scenes that they want to meet desperately to try and end it because they're getting decimated. You don't get that when you listen to your fake station, but you don't know, you don't know anything.

• 1:24:40Speaker 24

  So talks are still possible.

• 1:24:41Speaker 02

  You know something I don't know? Do you know something I don't know?

• 1:24:44Speaker 24

  Well, tell us.

• 1:24:44Speaker 02

  I will tell you, they want to desperately meet, and until they're ready to meet in a meaningful way, we have no interest in even.

• 1:24:55Speaker 01

  What an easy way to handle that situation. How do you know? Are you talking to them? What do you know that I don't know? I'm the president, so as if you know more than I do, like who I'm negotiating. That's the part about everybody, everybody, including us, that we give our opinions, we give our thoughts, we speculate. Nobody knows what's going on behind closed doors, except for the people that are in the room negotiating with these guys. Nobody knows.

• 1:25:17Speaker 07

  I agree.

• 1:25:17Speaker 01

  Everything is speculation and biases, speculation to support what you believe in and what you're thinking is going on. Now, I do want to say what just happened. Iran strikes on CIA facilities prompting questions about possible Russian role. And this article, this is not an article written by just a blogger. This is by Reuters. So, you know, Iranian drone attacks on CIA facilities in Gulf have prompted US intelligence analysts to investigate whether Russia assisted by providing targeting information or advanced drone technology, according to four people familiar with the US intelligence. Analysts have not reached firm conclusions, but cited the strike's effectiveness and apparent precision, as well as Russia's broader technical support for Iran as possible evidence.

• 1:26:02Speaker 01

  At least two CIA sites were struck in March. The CIA stationed the US embassy in Riyadh, Saudi, and a separate site in northern, Eastern Iraq. One internal memo from a Western intelligence agency concluded Russia has likely played a role. In targeting regional CIA facilities, two Western officials briefed and intelligence reports said analysts thought the Saudi attack involved a pair of Russian enhanced versions of Iran's Shahid drones. One blew a hole through a vulnerable part of the embassy exterior and the other flew through and detonated. So, I mean, Tom, when you, when you, Adam, when you see your story like this, what do you think's going on with this story?

• 1:26:42Speaker 07

  So this specific story, I mean, listen, Russia is a bad actor, but, but, but I want to comment on the Iran situation if I can and the Houthis, if I may.

• 1:26:51Speaker 01

  Go for it.

• 1:26:52Speaker 07

  I'm here in Jerusalem, and let me tell you something, what I've learned in the Middle East. I always say, you know, the, the, the Middle East is not the Midwest. You know, what you got going on in Chicago is not what they got going on in Iran. I'm here in Israel, and these are Israelis, you know, supposedly the sophisticated people. The aggression in the Middle East, don't get me started on Lebanon and Syria and Afghanistan. These are not aggressive people. These are pushy people. I'm with my buddy Austin, we're in line for coffee, I see him arguing with this old lady, arguing. I go, what, what was that? He goes, she tried to skip me in line. I'm like, that's what's going on here?

• 1:27:35Speaker 07

  We don't understand in America how aggressive the Middle East is. PPD, you get it. So what's my point? We talked about peace through strength. You have to be firm with these people. The only language they understand is strength and being firm. If not, they're never going to move up their position in America. When I talk about the Middle East versus the Midwest, and Pat, you know this more than anybody, we have no idea how fanatical and radical these people are. We talk about like, I'm a fan, you know, I love my team, I'm a Knicks fan, you know, or the Bears famously had super fans. Fanatical and fans are completely different.

• 1:28:18Speaker 07

  The amount of belief, you have to respect how much they believe in what they believe, but you can't compromise your values or lose because they believe that much. We have to fight with so much strength to, to be at the same level of how much they want to destroy. So understand one thing, America, we have to be strong. Trump, continue to be strong and continue to crush the bad guys and end this thing.

• 1:28:44Speaker 01

  What, I mean, listen, maybe one of the deepest analysis I've heard based on a coffee shop to know how to handle these guys.

• 1:28:52Speaker 07

  How tough. I'm telling you, bro.

• 1:28:54Speaker 01

  That report must be sent to Pentagon.

• 1:28:57Speaker 07

  They need to analyze that.

• 1:28:59Speaker 01

  Immediately. Did you record that coffee shop? Because that intel, that insight, listen, where is the director of CIA when you need him? Where, can we get a hold of him right now to give that breakdown?

• 1:29:09Speaker 07

  John, are you listening?

• 1:29:10Speaker 01

  Oh my gosh, that visual, me watching like the coffee exchange, oh yeah, cutting in line, kicking, she falls, hey, you're not going to get before I do, yeah.

• 1:29:18Speaker 07

  The radioactive latte that kills her a week later. Here's, here's what I want to do.

• 1:29:23Speaker 01

  But by the way.

• 1:29:24Speaker 07

  I want to hook up that old lady, that grandma.

• 1:29:26Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:29:27Speaker 07

  With the abusive grandfather, they're going to create the best super fighter of all time. We're going to roll them in the IDF, Mossad's already on the case.

• 1:29:33Speaker 01

  Yeah, but.

• 1:29:34Speaker 07

  We're on this thing, CIA.

• 1:29:35Speaker 01

  But, but I will tell you, I will tell you, in, in regard to what you're saying, you're right. They are very aggressive. Their personality is aggressive. You know, the first time I went to New York with Mario, the, the, the workers at New York talked to Mario in a certain, Mario was like fighting everybody. I'm like, Mario, this is just New York.

• 1:29:54Speaker 07

  Everybody's chilling.

• 1:29:55Speaker 01

  They can't talk to us like that. I said, no, this is New Yorkers. They're not upset, they're not angry, they're just from New York. You're accustomed to Texas. You go to Texas, Southern hospitality is like, yes, sir. So when you get called sir 500 times, and then you go to a state that doesn't call you sir.

• 1:30:11Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 1:30:12Speaker 01

  You lose your shit, you really start believing like you are a sir, right? So I, I get that part about Middle East and how it's, you know, what it's like, but the part right now with everything that's going on, Trump is going back and saying, hey, I'm pushing hard, and if you do this, we're going to do this. You know, it, it'd be interesting, but the fact that now, imagine those calls on the back end, calling Russia, calling China, what are you doing? What, what are you, I thought you wanted to do this. These have to be some of the best calls right now that's taking place. You know who's losing in a big way right now? It's a guy named Gavin Newsom that's dying to become a president. I got one report that says how huge blow for Gavin Newsom as shock polls show Democrat 2028 White House rival streaking ahead.

• 1:30:55Speaker 01

  This one shows Kamala Harris is way ahead of him. Another one that just came out this morning with his numbers dropping, if you can go to my tweet, if you go to Twitter and then Tom, I'm going to come to you with this one because you send us these, these numbers this morning, just go to my Twitter account and go to the latest tweet that I have on what happened with AOC this morning. The last couple of years, you've heard me say it, AOC is going to be the primary candidate. I believe it's going to be her, if you can make that bigger, okay? Gavin Newsom's favorability among likely New Hampshire Democratic primary voters has fallen from 58 to 38 in nine months, while his ballot support dropped from 15 to 8%.

• 1:31:39Speaker 01

  Meanwhile, AOC holds a 55% net favorability compared to Newsom's 12. Tom, is this poll that you shared with us this morning showing the fact that AOC is closely getting ahead of Newsom?

• 1:31:53Speaker 07

  Yep, and I'm going to give you a quick case study that has three parts. Number one, I'm going to take you to some Kalshi numbers. Number two, I'm going to take you to net favorability. So favorability usually happens right before the polls come out. You know what I mean, Vinnie? People's favorability starts rising, all of a sudden the polls start moving, that's number two. And then number three, I'm going to tell you about the East-West effect, and then number four is the Newsom reaction. So number one, the Kalshi market, if we go the Kalshi market here, look at this, we are over 157, no, now 158. Look what has happened in the last week. Here's what's happened. And the folks inside Kalshi, very, very, very, very helpful. Here's what's gone on.

• 1:32:37Speaker 07

  Gavin Newsom was 24% in the last 30 days. Gavin Newsom was 18% likelihood of getting the Democratic nomination. That's down from 24%. So in the last 30 days, he's been riding at 18%. That's down six full points, and you know what that is? That is 25% down. AOC was 9%, Pat. In the last 30 days, she's risen to 15%. That is six points up, which is plus 56% in the poll. Jon Ossoff, 12 to 16, up four. So right now, it's Newsom 18, AOC 15, Ossoff 14. That is what is really happening in real time voting, and it's moving.

• 1:33:22Speaker 07

  Because remember, once you have 154 million, Pat, and the next person puts in, say, their, their 100 bucks on AOC, it takes a while to move the Titanic. There's $157 million of predictions in there. So number one, there is a huge shift going down, Newsom down 25%, AOC up 56% in the prediction. Second, favorability, this is what is absolutely shocking. Right now, Newsom is only plus 12% favorability. Who really doesn't like him? Who really likes him? Minus who really doesn't like him, what's left? 12. He's the last place of the six candidates.

• 1:34:05Speaker 01

  Good.

• 1:34:06Speaker 07

  Right in front of him is Kamala Harris at plus 19 favorable.

• 1:34:10Speaker 01

  Come on, Kamala.

• 1:34:11Speaker 07

  Do you know what AOC's favorability is right now? Plus 55. She is 43 points more favorable than Newsom, and you can see it shifting. And so now, the next polls come out, which is this, as Gavin Newsom goes east toward New York, toward New Hampshire, he does worse because all of the California perceptions come with him. The East Coast voters' perception is that California has a lot of problems. Whether they're Democrat or Republican, that's what the average voter thinks, and that makes sense. They hear about the fires, they hear about the corruption, they see Nick Shirley, they hear about the rail, and they're not Californians that say, well, I'm still a Democrat in California and I love Newsom, he's my guy. No, they're East Coasters are saying, wow, you know what, things are happening in California.

• 1:34:56Speaker 07

  That follows Newsom, and he does worse the further east he goes. Do you know what happens when AOC goes to Chicago and she goes to Detroit? She picks up momentum from younger people living there that say, you appear to be what I want. And I'm thinking more in terms of supporting a socialist, supporting a liberal.

• 1:35:13Speaker 01

  Great stuff.

• 1:35:14Speaker 07

  The more she goes west, the more she picks up. So what is happening now, I am declaring here and now, and remember, VT Analytics, you know, I, Pat graciously, you know, funded what we did for the election, thank you again, Pat, and we, on election night for the presidential election, we didn't pull back one state that we called all night. We called them, we called them when we felt we were earlier than networks, and we called the election while we had Chank on Zoom, which he really loved, this is one of the highlights of his life. But we didn't, and we were the first one to call it.

• 1:35:47Speaker 01

  So what are you calling? You, you said I'm calling here right now.

• 1:35:50Speaker 07

  I am saying, right now, I'm telling you, AOC is the lead, maybe she stays here, maybe she doesn't. She is the lead candidate for the Democratic presidential election. I'm telling you right now, and I'll give you a proof.

• 1:36:03Speaker 01

  I'm sorry, but by the way, did you hear what Tom just said now? You guys disagreed two years ago.

• 1:36:07Speaker 07

  Me or Adam?

• 1:36:08Speaker 01

  No, no, no.

• 1:36:09Speaker 07

  Well, I know somebody that didn't disagree.

• 1:36:11Speaker 01

  Adam said that'll never happen, it's no way, it's no way this, no way that, and the Democrats are falling for it. So why is this happening is the question? Why? And what is the, what is the, you know, indicator of what to come? Who, who right now is winning over the youth with his policies in America?

• 1:36:31Speaker 07

  Mamdani, free, everybody.

• 1:36:32Speaker 01

  Mamdani tweeted something yesterday about Netanyahu that he couldn't arrest, and he's leaning on the federal government to arrest Netanyahu when he comes to give a speech that he's going to be giving, and he originally told Mehdi Hassan that he was going to find a way to arrest him, even though he does not have the ability to do so, this clip right here.

• 1:36:52Speaker 07

  Look how serious he is.

• 1:36:53Speaker 01

  But here's what I want you to do, play the clip, just play the clip, the first 30.

• 1:36:56Speaker 25

  ... is a war criminal, the architect of a horrific genocide.

• 1:36:58Speaker 01

  Table's in the right way this time, the desk.

• 1:37:00Speaker 25

  He is responsible for the killing of more than 73,000 people.

• 1:37:04Speaker 07

  For the maiming of tens of thousands of children.

• 1:37:08Speaker 01

  You can pause it right now. Now, watch this. How many likes you think this clip got? 1.3 million likes, not views, 84 million views. Okay, 84 million views. Now, this is the part that this is a bit confusing for Americans that they're not gonna know. What, I just wanna what percentage of that is people that are Americans versus people outside of America on Twitter. I wanna know what percentage of those are from what denomination, what religion, where they are, how many of them are bots. I wanna do all of that, but this is real. This is not like it's not real. And who is the one ahead of him, ahead of him that can become a president? It's AOC. And so, can you go back to my tweet, please? If you go back to the tweet, I wanna show you a couple of things here.

• 1:37:51Speaker 01

  Because both Democrats and Republicans have a problem right now. Go a little bit lower. Here's the problem. The Democratic problem is they don't know how to handle the Democrat Socialist Party. They're younger, more energized, louder, better at simple messaging, and their message is easy to understand. They wanna, rich people are the problem, tax to rich, wealth tax for, will fix inequality. Government can solve all your problems, the affordability crisis, and the system is unfair. Newsom made the mistake, Tom, of trying to be a socialist. He's not a socialist. Nope. Newsom's not a socialist. But he said, man, I'll do anything to become a president, including become a socialist, and it dropped.

• 1:38:30Speaker 07

  Two weeks ago, sitting in a suit and tie with the bookcases behind him, talking like DSA.

• 1:38:35Speaker 01

  And audiences watching him and saying, hey, what do you stand for? Who are you? Is it anything to become a president? I wanna know your problem. You know, I wanna know what you stand for. You know what the Republicans' problem is? Affordability, affordability, affordability. Very simple. You know, they think Wall Street is Main Street. It's not. People are getting destroyed. 80% of Americans don't own uh, you know, Nvidia, Anthropic, SpaceX, and Palantir. They're not sitting there saying, oh, my God, my stock is doing great. No, 80% are not thinking about that. They're thinking about housing affordability, rising costs, and economic opportunity. If Republicans kind of blow this off of affordability, they're gonna be destroyed if they think it's not a big deal.

• 1:39:14Speaker 01

  They're gonna be destroyed. And by the way, this post-Trump era, it's starting. JD Vance on Joe Rogan, it's starting. It's, it's starting. You know, JD Vance on Bill Maher, Bill Maher saying, I'm open to voting for somebody else, it's starting. It's gradually started. Vinnie, this is gonna be the nastiest Republican primary you've seen in a long time. And don't forget, for the people that say AOC could never be that, a guy said, that'll never happen, the backers will never get behind AOC. Really? Yeah. Don't forget how close Bernie Sanders was of beating Hillary Clinton.

• 1:39:49Speaker 07

  Yep.

• 1:39:50Speaker 01

  Don't forget how close Bernie Sanders was of beating Hillary Clinton.

• 1:39:53Speaker 07

  I'll say he beat her and they dirty tricked him in South Carolina out of it.

• 1:39:57Speaker 01

  Of course he beat her. Of course he beat her. But by the way, the other part is guys like Bill Maher and Van Jones are like, wait a minute, I'm not a socialist. Here's what Van Jones just had to say. If you wanna play this clip, this is Van Jones, okay? If you wanna pull up, you just literally had it up right there. You'll watch this. You'll watch this clip by Van Jones. Go for it.

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• 1:42:20Speaker 04

  I am tired, tired, tired of a set of people on the very far left in the Democratic Party. Ideas that are literally insane, nutty, moronic, dangerous, bigoted, are not progressive. They're regressive, and they should not be in our party.

• 1:42:37Speaker 28

  I'm not living in communist America. I mean, I know that the talking point is that, well, it's not communism, it's socialism. Okay, I've read the quotes from the DSA platform from their own mouth.

• 1:42:52Speaker 01

  Even, even their own party's like, look, I'm a Democrat, I'm not socialist. But it's gonna be, it's gonna be, AOC's gonna be the person for them.

• 1:42:59Speaker 07

  And I'll tell you something else that may shock you, but Mamdani

• 1:43:05Speaker 07

  is, is, is going to, right now, in a basement in New York, scared to death, wearing adult diapers, my, my assumption, is Chuck Schumer. And because his political career is like, his life passing before his eyes right now, Pat, I believe Mamdani, although he's only been mayor for a short time, I think he's gonna run for that Senate seat, and I think AOC's running for president, and she's, who I think is the frontrunner. And I think that Gavin Newsom's, look, anything can happen in a political season, but I think his expiration date is upon us. If he has trouble in an echelon poll against Kamala Harris this last week, and he's got this, and he's never broken above 25,

• 1:43:45Speaker 07

  the voters are waiting for something else. My last quick point, Pat, what you said, I'd like to add something. You said it's gonna be the ugliest Democrat primary season. I think it's gonna be the ugliest primary season.

• 1:43:58Speaker 01

  I said, I said for Republicans.

• 1:44:00Speaker 07

  You said for Republicans, but I think it's gonna be on the other side too.

• 1:44:03Speaker 01

  I know, but, but the reason why it's more ugly on the Republican, my opinion, you could say Democrat than Democrat, uh, is because, it's gonna be ugly on the Republican side, because the big elephant is, the biggest, most intimidating elephant ever is leaving the room.

• 1:44:22Speaker 01

  And it's gonna be, you know, massively nasty, nasty. I think the JD Vance followers are gonna be super nasty, super nasty.

• 1:44:32Speaker 07

  The proxies of Vance are already nasty.

• 1:44:34Speaker 01

  Super nasty. I think there's gonna be some, I mean, look at that, Don Jr.'s number four on that list, you know, Marco Rubio, DeSantis. Trump is even at 2.6%.

• 1:44:43Speaker 07

  This is Kelsey. How much is on that? Vinnie, I don't see that number.

• 1:44:46Speaker 01

  Which one?

• 1:44:47Speaker 07

  I can't see it with the glare of the light. What's it, 52 million dollars? This is legit. This is legit.

• 1:44:52Speaker 01

  Some people, there's 3% of people that think Trump's gonna be the president again.

• 1:44:55Speaker 04

  Did you see what Trump said the other day? It was actually hilarious. Did you see what he did? Where was he? They, they, oh, but do you have that clip?

• 1:45:01Speaker 07

  The crown prince of trolling people.

• 1:45:04Speaker 04

  I don't know if he's in Detroit, I don't know where he is, but Donald Trump opens up and he goes,

• 1:45:07Speaker 07

  He's in Georgia.

• 1:45:08Speaker 04

  Ladies and gentlemen, I'm here to announce my pres- and he goes, I'm just kidding.

• 1:45:13Speaker 07

  Just kidding, just kidding.

• 1:45:14Speaker 04

  Yeah, but, um, while he looks for the, oh, yeah, right here.

• 1:45:17Speaker 01

  Watch this. This is just to piss people off.

• 1:45:19Speaker 04

  No, not that guy, not that guy, not that guy. It's, it's not that.

• 1:45:22Speaker 01

  It's a different one. Adam, your thoughts on this?

• 1:45:25Speaker 15

  PBD, I just wanna publicly apologize on saying that you were incorrect about AOC. So as much as I wanna apologize, I wanna double down. So instead of stopping it or trying to put up a wall like Trump did, let's do it. Let's get it on. Because what's happening on the Democratic Party, think about real quick, I'm gonna rattle it off, boom. Who's left the Democratic Party that was hardcore Democrats? RFK, Tulsi, Joe Manchin, you know, that's my boy. John Fetterman is basically a Republican at this point. You have Bill Maher basically saying, I can't condone this, and the coup de grace. Van Jones, CNN staple Van Jones, by the way, hardcore Zionist, throw that out there progressives, he was raised by a Jewish grandmother, I wanna say.

• 1:46:12Speaker 15

  When you lose him and he says you can't do this, you might be losing the entire party. So I hope that the Obama, Bernie coalition, the AOCs, the Mamdani's, the Ilhan Omars, the Hassan Pikers, dressed as Chairman Mao, just get it out there. Remember I said that I want the WNBA players to play the NBA just so we can see what it looks like? I hope we have a Marco Rubio, who I believe is the most polished, just best candidate we've seen in a long time. Versus an AOC, Latino versus Latino, what a proud moment for Latinos in America.

• 1:46:46Speaker 07

  And let's see what happens because I believe that America is smarter than whatever AOC is pitching. And I would love to see that matchup because I think America will basically come to their senses and say, we just can't do this socialist communism thing. This ain't America, baby.

• 1:47:02Speaker 04

  You're giving them too much credit, Adam, and to go, Pat, the Van Jones.

• 1:47:05Speaker 07

  I'm giving who too much credit?

• 1:47:07Speaker 04

  No, you're giving the people too much credit. Like, you're like, the Democrats are gonna wake up.

• 1:47:12Speaker 07

  No, no, no. I said Americans.

• 1:47:14Speaker 04

  Americans will still have Adam. The Mumdani is the biggest case study of sleeping on this ideology and this movement. And you know what it's basically like? And that's why, like, the Van Jones and the Bill Maher and even Stephen A. and all them, you have to take some responsibility because you, for 10 years, not a peep. Everything was Trump. And now you're looking back and you're like, oh, my God. You know what it's like? It's like having a bump. This is the Democratic Party with this new socialist communist movement. It's like having a bump that you ignore and you ignore and you ignore and you keep worrying about other stuff. And then all of a sudden, now you go to the doctor and they're like, yo, it's stage four cancer. And you're like, why didn't I? Because Van Jones, you've been sitting there on the fricking, on the TV, on media for how many years?

• 1:47:57Speaker 04

  And just trumping Trump, Trump, orange man bad? And now the dust has settled? And now you guys are looking back and going, oh, my God. We have no leader. We have no policy. We have no vision. And now the communist jihad, freaking AOC squad people are going to take over. And Adam, it's not going to, it's not maybe, they're going to take over. But the beauty about this country is, bro, I love it. The First Amendment and the Second Amendment, the back end. These people think that they're gonna come, like the Hassan Pikers. You're gonna come and try to take over what? Celebrating 9/11, pro-communist, pro-Mao? What are you gonna do? What are you actually gonna do? Because Hassan Piker put up a video pad on his podcast. He's doing this thing. He framed the Twin Towers. It's a 9/11 thing behind him.

• 1:48:42Speaker 04

  He framed-

• 1:48:43Speaker 01

  Number 12 newspaper showing the horrible tragedy of the day before.

• 1:48:46Speaker 04

  And he put it behind him and he said, this is my PSA 10. Pat's a card collector. For all the people that don't know, PSA 10 is like your prize. That thing means it's worth something. Can we play this, Pat, really quick?

• 1:48:58Speaker 01

  Go for it.

• 1:49:02Speaker 29

  Also, you might have noticed something, some changes behind me.

• 1:49:07Speaker 29

  I finally framed the Cutie Cinderella newspaper from 9/11, the morning of 9/12. The newspaper right there. The newspaper that covered 9/11. It's now officially sitting behind me. And I moved the North Korea poster.

• 1:49:26Speaker 04

  He moved the North Korea poster. He put 9/11 burning. The towers, keep on, keep on. The towers are burning there.

• 1:49:32Speaker 29

  In place of the fan art. We're gonna find a new place to put all the fan art. Don't you worry. Okay? But in any case, ladies and gentlemen, boys, girls, and MBs, that's a PSA 10, by the way. That 9/11 poster, or not, the 9/11 news article is a PSA 10.

• 1:49:52Speaker 04

  Pat, he's pro, like, he said, America deserved 9/11. I want everybody out there, this wannabe, cosplaying communist, dressing up like another dude, okay? As a New Yorker, Pat, as a veteran, he thinks it makes him look cool. He's trying to be edgy, okay? 3,000 innocent Americans, New Yorkers, died. He thinks it's cool. And by the way, he's so unoriginal. Dressing up like Mao, idiot, loser. And then, guess what? The whole Nick Fuentes style, he's taking his style. Wearing a suit, he thinks he's trying to be funny, Pat, and push people towards the edge. It's not funny. It's pathetic. It's cringe. And that's the party. This is the, this is the future of the Democratic Party. He's doing speeches in colleges. It's the AOC's, it's a Mumdani's, and it's him.

• 1:50:37Speaker 04

  And it's this guy, Pat. And it drives me absolutely nuts that more people aren't furious about this type of freaking moron.

• 1:50:45Speaker 07

  Can I respond to Vinny when I get a second?

• 1:50:48Speaker 01

  Of course, go for it.

• 1:50:50Speaker 07

  Vinny, I 1 million percent appreciate everything you're saying and your passion. I just don't think America is gonna fall for this. Yes, you may be right. The Democratic Party, it may be too late for them. It may be. We'll see. We'll see if they come to their senses. But I don't think America is falling for this. In America, you think they're gonna appreciate someone who's glorifying the Twin Towers coming down? I just don't buy that nonsense. And if we, and if we do, we've lost our country anyway.

• 1:51:18Speaker 04

  But, Adam-

• 1:51:19Speaker 07

  So my opinion-

• 1:51:20Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 1:51:20Speaker 07

  So, hold on. So my opinion is, this is a fad. The Democratic Party might, might fall for it, but the average American isn't falling for this nonsense. It's really the definition of, does the future look bright or does the future look bleak? And you already know what we believe.

• 1:51:36Speaker 04

  Adam, you heard me talking about the devil earlier. If I told you five years ago, New York City would freaking elect a pro-jihadist communist, freaking wife tweeting, celebrating October 7th, you would laugh in my face. And so I think you're sleeping on this disgusting movement, Adam. And it's, I'm telling you right now, we should be taking it way more serious than I think giving Americans this much credit because they're acting like they're so mad and Trump is the worst president ever. Just the spite they're gonna do.

• 1:52:07Speaker 01

  This is the greatest time for socialists to impose themselves. The greatest time. You have so many stats. First time home buyers ages at 40. Okay, first time. You got birth rate 1.58. You got people that are delaying getting married. You got, you got, you know, economy right now with prices that you see happening with the war, gas price. This is such an, if I was a socialist, this is a dream time. Dream time because the big scary guy is gonna get out the way as well. And he is such an easy guy to attack.

• 1:52:51Speaker 01

  Such an easy guy to attack because of TDS. This is a dream situation for a socialist. Dream situation for a socialist to go. And by the way, let me tell you what's the only bad thing. The only bad thing is the election can't come soon enough. Not, not later. Because the longer the election takes, the more shit's gonna break in New York. The more shit's gonna break in California, the more numbers are gonna be there for people to show, look, this doesn't work. So the benefit Republicans have is, they have to get every data New York City has since Mumdani got in. They have to get every data California has since Newsom got in.

• 1:53:31Speaker 01

  They have to get every data, 24, 25, 26, 27. They can't use 27 because it'll be 28. But this is gonna be a very, very, and by the way, I like what, I don't know if you guys saw what Rubio said. Rubio was being asked about, you know, the election. And he says, you're being a troublemaker. You're pitting us against each other. Rubio, I don't know if you saw that or not.

• 1:53:53Speaker 04

  With J.D. Vance, they're asking-

• 1:53:54Speaker 01

  Yeah, he says, you're being a troublemaker, asking us a question like this. There's no problems with us. You know, Trump's the main negotiator. He's handling all this stuff himself. Yeah, here, I'll send it to you. If you want to check your texts, I just found it. I just, let me see if it's not-

• 1:54:09Speaker 04

  So, Pat, you're basically saying, don't, like, we shouldn't sleep on them at all, zero. Take the enemy serious because, Adam, at the end of the day, they are the enemy. I don't care what anybody says.

• 1:54:20Speaker 07

  They're not really unified. Vinny, you know, your passion is correct. Your points are correct. But I'll tell you, there's two things that I liked. I liked hearing what Van Jones said. Van Jones will say things that really upset me. But do I respect Van Jones as a person? Yes, I do. I don't agree with him on everything, but he is objectively looking at it from his side. And let me translate for you. Damn it, we're not unified and there's part of my own party that, that, that kind of freaks me out. That's the same thing that Bill Maher is saying. So they are not all unified hunky-dory. And what Pat said is correct. I mean, I am watching things like Calci's primary hub. You can go to Calci elections, look at primaries. They've got all this data that's coming up and finally-

• 1:55:02Speaker 01

  They got very good data on that.

• 1:55:03Speaker 07

  Very good data and it's a new hub that they have out there. Watch the data. What Pat said is correct. Shit's gonna break. Stuff's gonna fall over. And on the other side, I call Van Jones and his Jewish grandmother and Bill Maher as rational liberals. I don't agree and I get really upset when I hear him say certain things. I do. But do I see rational liberals and go, huh, I guess everything's not perfect and unified on their side of the street now, is it?

• 1:55:28Speaker 01

  Did you really go after Van Jones's Jewish grandmother?

• 1:55:30Speaker 07

  No, I'm saying, I'm saying, I didn't. I didn't go after his Jewish grandmother.

• 1:55:35Speaker 01

  I would leave her alone.

• 1:55:36Speaker 07

  No, no, no. What, Adam, I got, no, no, no. My point is, people look at Van Jones and think he's a communist that parachuted from somewhere. He's not. He was raised in a certain background.

• 1:55:46Speaker 01

  Let me, let me, let me go back on this. Listen, for those of you guys that follow politics as sport, gonna be sick.

• 1:55:55Speaker 01

  It's gonna be sick. Our election night that won't be doing 2028 when we host the event, it's gonna be ridiculous. If you think the last one was magical, we had, you know, 2,000 plus people, I don't even know what we're gonna do for 2028. And I'm not even selling tickets. It's two and a half years from us. Okay, it's not even like we're doing, but all I'm gonna tell you is gonna be insane. I want you to watch this Rubio moment. Watch this Rubio moment when he's asked of reporter ask about him and J D Vance. Look at the way he, I don't even wanna get thoughts on this. I just want the audience to see it because I like the way he handles himself. Go ahead.

• 1:56:29Speaker 30

  They want you to take over the Iran negotiations. They trust you. They think that you will prioritize Israel's interests and they're attacking Vice President Vance.

• 1:56:37Speaker 31

  Who are these prominent Republicans?

• 1:56:39Speaker 30

  Senator Sheehan, the Wall Street Journal opinion page.

• 1:56:42Speaker 31

  Well, that's not Republican. That's a newspaper.

• 1:56:44Speaker 30

  Well, they.

• 1:56:44Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:56:45Speaker 31

  You're a troublemaker with these questions. No.

• 1:56:47Speaker 30

  It leans right.

• 1:56:47Speaker 31

  No, no, look, guys, listen, here's the bottom, here's, you know who the lead negotiator is? His name is Donald J. Trump, the President of the United States. That's who dictates our policy. He has a team of people that work together on this. We all have a role to play depending on what the topic is. We have very good negotiators in Steve Witkoff and Jared Kushner. We have the Vice President of the United States, which is the second highest ranking official, which tells you how the importance we've given this file. Obviously, I have a role to play. The Department of War has had a role to play. That's how we approach it. This doesn't, I mean, it's a, it's a combined effort and it always should be.

• 1:57:18Speaker 30

  Do you wish people didn't endorse you to take over the talks yourself?

• 1:57:22Speaker 31

  I mean, you're telling me about that, but that's not how our system works. That's not how this administration works. It starts at the top. The president is in charge and he has a team of people that provide counsel and provide.

• 1:57:31Speaker 04

  He's an O G.

• 1:57:33Speaker 31

  There's something.

• 1:57:34Speaker 04

  He's a pro.

• 1:57:35Speaker 01

  I love the way he handles himself.

• 1:57:36Speaker 04

  He doesn't take no bait. He doesn't take any bait.

• 1:57:38Speaker 15

  And I like the way he called him a troublemaker at the beginning. He was very, come on, you're being a troublemaker.

• 1:57:42Speaker 01

  Yeah, but he did it in a very respectful way. I like the way he handles himself.

• 1:57:47Speaker 15

  He is so smooth. When's the last time he said anything you're like, no, totally disagree with Rubio. He is just built for this and I don't want him to peak too early.

• 1:57:56Speaker 01

  I don't wanna put that kind of, I don't wanna put that kind of.

• 1:57:57Speaker 15

  I'm not saying that.

• 1:57:58Speaker 01

  I get that.

• 1:57:59Speaker 15

  But he is so skilled, man, and it's great to see him work.

• 1:58:02Speaker 01

  I, I, I, I hope DeSantis is working on a marketing team behind closed doors. I hope they're working on a marketing team behind closed doors. One more time. I hope DeSantis is working on a marketing team behind closed doors because he's formidable. And this is his year, not 24. 28 is a great year for DeSantis to also get in there. Anyway.

• 1:58:26Speaker 15

  Pat.

• 1:58:27Speaker 01

  I hope the marketing team is doing something.

• 1:58:29Speaker 15

  P B D. I don't wanna fight with you on this.

• 1:58:30Speaker 04

  Take it easy.

• 1:58:31Speaker 01

  It's changing of the approach, but.

• 1:58:33Speaker 15

  I don't think so.

• 1:58:34Speaker 01

  I hope he's doing something. Now, that guy, that guy is a, he's a doer. It's very hard to find doers. Very, very hard. Problem he has is he doesn't care to talk to people. He just kinda wants to do the work. He wants to do the job. He needs to, he, he's got it, but he doesn't wanna do the marketing. Anyways, we'll see. Okay, let me get to the next one. ESPN, did they all of a sudden become conservative? What happened to ESPN? What happened to the woke, you know, B L M, everything being about politics? Apparently, eventually, this guy named Bob that, you know, has been running that organization for a while called Disney says, hey, guys, no more politics. Please let's just talk about sports. They fire Ryan Clark. They fire Carl Ravitch. I'm upset

• 1:59:17Speaker 01

  about that one. They, they fire Cam Newton and a bunch of other guys. Then they renewed Tebow's contract, conservative. Then, then they go out there and say, Pat McAfee. There's talks of Pat McAfee getting paid 60, 65 million dollars a year. He's about to get that contract. Some people are speculating saying the reason why Pat McAfee's, why all these people are getting fired is because they're trying to save money to pay Pat McAfee all the money. Everyone getting fired. And there's a very special moment between Pat McAfee and Ryan Clark. I don't know if you've seen that one or not. I'll find it. I'll send it to you. And they're saying this was the final point where they said, we're done with this. There's three other clips because of this, but I want you to watch

• 2:00:01Speaker 01

  what Ryan Clark did. The one thing you're not supposed to do, but he does right here. Go for it.

• 2:00:06Speaker 32

  This morning, are you feeling, okay, you look at A J Brown, which is this number one wide receiver who got one target all night, and then you got C D Lamb. But that's the, when was the one target?

• 2:00:14Speaker 15

  That's the target though.

• 2:00:15Speaker 32

  But I'm saying.

• 2:00:16Speaker 15

  When was the one target?

• 2:00:17Speaker 32

  I'm saying, you could have it both ways.

• 2:00:18Speaker 15

  54 seconds left in the game on second and 11. It was the one target. He runs the outrun.

• 2:00:23Speaker 32

  You wake up this morning saying A J Brown has had a better day than C D Lamb?

• 2:00:26Speaker 33

  But you know what you wake up saying though? A J Brown's team is 1-0.

• 2:00:29Speaker 32

  Of course. I mean, yes, I get it.

• 2:00:31Speaker 33

  But the thing is this though, and, and we shouldn't do this on TV. And so I apologize if people think this is rude. That's the non-player view.

• 2:00:42Speaker 32

  Oh, stop. That's, no, that, that, C D Lamb is.

• 2:00:44Speaker 33

  And then, and let me tell you why. I'm not saying.

• 2:00:47Speaker 01

  Peter Strager's a fair guy.

• 2:00:48Speaker 32

  Ryan, I'm not, don't, don't, don't belittle me like that. I could come in and say, as three ex-players are saying one thing and give an alternative perspective that maybe C D Lamb did play well and made it. What I need for you to do, what I need.

• 2:00:59Speaker 01

  By the way, so, so that right there, you know what that means, right?

• 2:01:02Speaker 04

  That's like, yo, we play the game. You don't know what you're talking about. That guy's the lead of the show, isn't he?

• 2:01:06Speaker 01

  And then, and then what he said about R G three's wife, because he's married to a white girl and he called that R G three. And then there was another comment he made, he made about C J Stroud and Bryce Young when it was like, hey, defending the other side and some unverified reporting that he did regarding an incident involving LSU's Casey, uh, uh, uh, Kieran Lacy contradicting officials. I mean, there's a lot of stuff. I, I think this is the one. Yeah, play that clip right there. That's the clip about.

• 2:01:34Speaker 33

  Who have chose to.

• 2:01:35Speaker 01

  Go back.

• 2:01:37Speaker 33

  To what black women deal with a lot from black men who have chose to date or marry outside of their race. They always feel like they have to go the extra mile to prop up.

• 2:01:49Speaker 01

  That is such.

• 2:01:49Speaker 33

  The woman that they're married or the woman that they're with over black women by denigrating black women. I feel like we should have an opportunity to move past that and understand that Angel Reese can be great in her own right as Caitlin Clark is as well. Caitlin Clark is a likable and lovable superstar. She pays homage to the stars of the past.

• 2:02:11Speaker 01

  So you know what he's saying because R G three's wife, can you tap in R G three's wife? You just do it on Google. You can do it on Google. R G three's wife, if I'm not mistaken, is R G three, just put three next to the J, R G, not J, R G. He's having nightmares about R G. R G three wife, go to images. Okay, that's his wife. So he's saying he married someone who's not black. And R G three's like.

• 2:02:40Speaker 15

  Hey, good for him.

• 2:02:41Speaker 01

  What the hell are you talking about? What are you talking about?

• 2:02:43Speaker 15

  He married a dime piece. Good for him.

• 2:02:45Speaker 01

  By the way, check this out. Do you have the clip of Marcellus Wiley? Do you have the one I sent you about Marcellus Wiley? If you go on the text, you'll see the one with Marcellus. Marcellus Wiley, man, this is, Ryan Clark's having a hard time here. It happens to all of us every once in a while. Marcellus Wiley comes out and says something and he says, wait a minute, what are you talking about? Don't, didn't you have a kid with a white girl? Do you know Ryan Clark has a kid with a white girl?

• 2:03:10Speaker 15

  No.

• 2:03:10Speaker 01

  So he says, oh, you didn't know this? Yeah. So, so Marcellus Wiley says, dude, you had a kid with a white girl. Imagine that white daughter has to sit there and hear the daddy saying you married outside of your, you got a white girl pregnant. You got a white girl pregnant. Do you know how to spell Marcellus Wiley? Tom, do you know how to spell Marcellus? I'm trying.

• 2:03:33Speaker 15

  Trying to help him.

• 2:03:34Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 2:03:35Speaker 15

  It's with a C, sir.

• 2:03:36Speaker 01

  Know how to spell Marcellus Wiley. Marcellus Wiley, if you type in Marcellus, well, you just have to see this. Anyways, they're having this exchange.

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• 2:06:03Speaker 07

  Oh my God.

• 2:06:05Speaker 01

  We could just have.

• 2:06:06Speaker 04

  There you go.

• 2:06:08Speaker 01

  Okay, Marcellus Wallace, look like it. Take that. Welcome to the typo podcast. Take that, put it on Twitter and go to Ryan Clark. Type in Ryan Clark next to it. Ryan Clark next to it. Okay, and Clark is a, it's okay, Clark, there you go, next to it. And you will see here in a minute, go a little bit lower, go a little bit lower with Whitlock. Okay, anyways. I'll find the clip and send it to you. The guy, the guy got a white girl pregnant and he had a white, so he's got a daughter that's half white, half black. Yeah. And so ESPN, the question is, are they leaving, are they going to, kind of going back to common sense and stop doing all this political stuff? That's a question, Vinnie.

• 2:06:47Speaker 04

  But he said, he also said, I'll just add to this, I know Tom has a, has a, a strong opinion on it. He said, Tom Brady, Drew Brees and Peyton Manning are not generational talents.

• 2:06:58Speaker 01

  Yeah, he did say that.

• 2:06:59Speaker 04

  Plain, plain and simple, you don't know what you're talking about. And that, like, listen, I love the fact, Matt, that, like, Stephen A. has ESPN, he talks about sports. He has a podcast that he talks about the political stuff and all that stuff. When it comes to the sports and stuff, people don't want to hear the nonsense. Keep it about sports. And listen, at the end of the day, and even Stephen A., to stick up for Stephen A., Stephen A. said, Pat, he even tried, he's like, yo, y'all need to keep him. Keep, uh, Ryan Clark. But he said, there's people that are up there, the bigger people that are making the big decisions, that are, once they made their decisions, it's a rap. And, um, I mean, I hope, hopefully he gets a freaking other job somewhere else. I think he'll be all right.

• 2:07:37Speaker 01

  Adam, where are you at with this?

• 2:07:39Speaker 07

  Man, rest in peace, uh, to that guy's career right there. Um, but Carl Ravitch, the, the baseball guy, Pat?

• 2:07:45Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 2:07:47Speaker 07

  That's tough right there.

• 2:07:48Speaker 01

  That's tough, I agree.

• 2:07:49Speaker 07

  I'm just saying, I know, I know, Tommy, you're a baseball guy. Anyway, regarding Ryan Clark and, and this whole identity politics things, is it, is it me, are we just kind of over this stuff? The end racism in the end zone? Like, you ain't gonna end it with the touchdown dance, guys. I just think America is so over the identity politics and the race and what's, what sex are you, the, the gender, or did, did you mispronounce my gender, misinform, like, I just think America is so over this. And whether it's like the militant black dude, or the trans lady that's trying to have dudes and, and, and women's sports from every end of the, of the spectrum, I just think, like, are you good at what you do? Are you likable? Do people want to rock your jersey? Do you put butts in seats?

• 2:08:33Speaker 07

  And do you win at the end of the day? So I think America's kind of over the race baiting and, uh, identity politics stuff.

• 2:08:38Speaker 01

  I found a clip.

• 2:08:39Speaker 07

  And just.

• 2:08:39Speaker 01

  I want you to watch this clip with Marcellus White. No, no, not that one. I sent you the clip. If you go to your text, I sent you the clip, uh, uh, I, did you get it or no? Tell me if you got that. There you go. All right, we found it. Marcellius. Wilkerson. Okay, go ahead, play it.

• 2:08:57Speaker 34

  Good analyst. I, I ain't gonna lie to you. He, he kills it. But I put all that inside, but this is what I can't get over. This is what triggers me. He's a race baiter. But worse than a race baiter is the type that we all grew up with that turned into that guy. Usually that guy got an identity issue. You know, he might be mixed, he might be a little light skinned, he may have been questioned his whole life, you know how it goes. But Ryan Clark wants to be a race baiter when he got a white baby mama. A black and white kid. And then want to look at everything through an all-black lens. You're literally telling your own child, half of her ain't it.

• 2:09:41Speaker 34

  And that's when I was like, dog, this is just damaging to the people. Whether it's my people, your people, all people, human race, culture, this is just stupid. I hate when people got a, my wife is, is biracial. She's Nigerian and Dutch. And I, boy, when I met her and she was like, I'm black, I was like, Anne?

• 2:10:03Speaker 34

  Come on, you Nigerian and Dutch. You ain't even, like, African American. Your ass is African. Like, you know what I mean? Give us love. I'm just saying, call it like it is.

• 2:10:13Speaker 01

  You can pause it. So to me, listen, I, I hope ESPN goes through the, the evolution that they're gonna go through. And by the way, if a Ryan Clark is that interested in politics and political issues, get into it.

• 2:10:25Speaker 04

  Yeah, do that.

• 2:10:25Speaker 01

  He was making $2 million, get into it, maybe. And by the way, you know what I actually like about the way Ryan Clark handled it? After he got fired? He, he posted a message, this is a weird way I'm giving him credit. If you go to his Instagram account, the day he got fired, you know what he did? He says, this morning I found that I'm getting fired? I went to the gym, I did my workout, I did whatever I do as my usual day, and went about my business. Okay, so, which means, he's a doer, he's a winner. You don't make it in the NFL and, you know, not, you know, go a little bit lower. I think he posted it on X, go a little bit lower, uh, which one was the stronger than his, I don't know which one it was, but he posted it that he just went to the gym, did his workout right after he got fired. So, which means he's got the right attitude to, to move on and do his own thing, but at

• 2:11:10Speaker 01

  the same time, you know, the audience is just getting a little bit too tired of this BS. Adam?

• 2:11:16Speaker 07

  Yeah, no, I'm so glad that you actually gave him credit because it sounds like.

• 2:11:19Speaker 01

  He's actually good, he's actually good at what he does.

• 2:11:20Speaker 07

  He's a stud, man. He's a stud. He was a great player, he's a great speaker, he, he's entertaining, but just, maybe you switch it up a little bit, right? You know, say, they, they had that switch up. America's over the identity politics.

• 2:11:31Speaker 01

  All right, let me get to the next story. Next story I want to get to is, I'm trying to see, which one do we go to? Do we go to, do we go to this? Let's, let's go to this hiring story, Tom, because I'm actually curious to know what you're gonna say about this hiring story, where people are sick and tired of doing these interviews. Let me see if I have it or not. Where is this one with the hiring story? What page is it on? Uh, I, I just had it. Where is that page? Uh, Tom, did you delete it?

• 2:11:53Speaker 07

  Page 12.

• 2:11:54Speaker 01

  Why, why did Tom delete it? Here we go, here's the story. It's incredibly.

• 2:11:57Speaker 07

  Don't blame it on Tom.

• 2:11:58Speaker 01

  It's incredibly disrespectful to do a virtual job interview by phone, but Gen Z is doing it anyway. This is a market watch story. How many guys are doing job interviews with a phone?

• 2:12:12Speaker 07

  Oh, hi, sir.

• 2:12:14Speaker 01

  And it's like moving and you're trying to track and you watch the interview.

• 2:12:17Speaker 04

  Like the guys in court.

• 2:12:18Speaker 01

  Let me, let me read this to you. So I'm, I'm curious to know if everybody else is kind of on the same page with this. Uh, it's incredibly, is it this one? Okay, there it is. Gen Z job candidates are increasingly using smartphones for virtual interviews and a trend that has sparked debate about professionalism. Career coach Melissa Marcus, a former recruit of 20 years, called it incredibly disrespectful, noting the vertical format makes candidates appear on a small screen like FaceTime. TikTok influencer Sophie Rocha went viral after posting about a candidate who interviewed by phone, writing she lost faith in our generation by the choice reflects, but the choice reflects deeper shifts. Most Gen Z'ers grew up with smartphones, the iPhone debut, when the oldest were about 10, and 90% of US households own one versus 81% with a laptop.

• 2:13:02Speaker 01

  Lower income candidates are far more likely to have a phone than a computer. Career coach Lindsay Bocardo, who works with Gen Z, said this has more to do with the technology they grew up with rather than a sign of respect or not. So Tom, where are you at with this? If you do an interview and somebody's on their phone, do you take them seriously?

• 2:13:23Speaker 07

  Uh, no. And you know what's really funny?

• 2:13:25Speaker 01

  Tell me.

• 2:13:26Speaker 07

  You can turn a phone sideways and you can lean it against a coffee cup and you can stand up straight, even against a backdrop in Starbucks and say, hey, Tom, I'm sorry, I'm at a Starbucks, I hope it's quiet enough here, I had to step out of my office because it wouldn't be appropriate to have an interview. You know, we're here during work hours, you know, 1:00 in the afternoon, because I'd like to interview for this position. I've had somebody say that to me. And you know what I say about that? I respect it. I respect it. But if you're just holding the phone, walking down the hall or something, very nice to meet you, and then you, you, you sit down, there is it. So they grew up in the vertical format because they got to post on Instagram, I get that. But there's also certain things to sit down and to be taken seriously.

• 2:14:10Speaker 07

  And communication skills are lacking. Oh, they can, they can text and abbreviate and talk, but there's a lot of Gen Z, this digitally native, um, generation, and I'm not throwing out the baby with the bath, bath water, there's a lot of smart people here, but we need to teach them about person-to-person communication and etiquette when you're looking for a job and somebody wants to trust you with running or being or impacting part of their company. And so I think there is a generational thing here. I don't sweep them all over and into a stack, Pat, but I have experienced it, but I've also experienced them saying, hey, it's the middle of the day, I had to step aside here,

• 2:14:54Speaker 07

  and this is where I can take the interview. And I, that I respect when they tell me, because they had no other choice and they stepped away to take a break because they wanted a different job.

• 2:15:03Speaker 01

  I mean, Vinnie has a good point. Vinnie, do you want to show them a case study? So she like, what's wrong with that, Tom?

• 2:15:07Speaker 04

  So guys, anytime you're FaceTiming or doing all that stuff, this is a video from a while ago.

• 2:15:12Speaker 07

  Oh, this is fantastic.

• 2:15:13Speaker 04

  A man with a suspended license shocks the judge by driving during a Zoom court appearance. Could you play this?

• 2:15:19Speaker 01

  Oh, this is.

• 2:15:21Speaker 35

  Are you driving?

• 2:15:24Speaker 36

  Actually, I'm pulling into my doctor's office, actually. So, so, just give me one second. I'm parking right now.

• 2:15:33Speaker 35

  You stationary?

• 2:15:35Speaker 36

  I'm pulling in right now at the second. Yes, I am.

• 2:15:39Speaker 07

  Brace for it.

• 2:15:41Speaker 35

  What are we doing? So maybe I don't understand something. This is a driver with a license suspended.

• 2:15:48Speaker 37

  That is correct, Your Honor.

• 2:15:50Speaker 35

  And he was just driving. And...

• 2:15:56Speaker 35

  He didn't have a license. I don't even know why he would do that. So defendant's bond is revoked in this matter. Defendant is to turn himself into the Washington County jail by 6:00 PM today. Failure to turn himself in will result in a bench warrant with no bond.

• 2:16:14Speaker 01

  My bad judge. My bad judge.

• 2:16:17Speaker 23

  Anything Zoom, FaceTime.

• 2:16:21Speaker 01

  That's just double dumb. That's all that is. That's just your dumb. But, but to me, you know, when you're getting a job.

• 2:16:26Speaker 07

  Now let's go to Jeffrey Toobin.

• 2:16:26Speaker 01

  When you're getting a job and you're, and you're trying to get a job, all you're trying to do is make a great first impression. And a great first impression is what? Did you shave? Shave. Do you have gel on your hair? No, fix your hair. You know, do, do you, uh, put on some makeup? Put on some makeup. Do you have,

• 2:16:48Speaker 01

  you know, a nice outfit you have on? Put a nice outfit on. Do, do you have a nice shirt and a tie? If you don't wear something nice. Yesterday I interviewed this lady who was in New York and she's, uh, applying for a very heavyweight job that we have. It's a very important job.

• 2:17:02Speaker 07

  He picked.

• 2:17:02Speaker 01

  Extremely presentable, very professional, very sharp, handled herself incredibly well. The moment we got off the interview, I told Tom, I said, I really like the way she presents herself. So guess what? Look at the phrase. My first word to Tom was, I really like the way she presents herself because she's going to be presenting us to others. So if that's how she's presenting herself to us, imagine how she's going to present herself to others. Unlike Adam, who is a, you know, professional Uber driver, unemployed. Trying to do this podcast out here. You know, where he decides to go to places in Israel that the audio doesn't work. And eventually they got ahold of an Assyrian and an Armenian that helped them fix it eventually. We out here.

• 2:17:47Speaker 07

  The nukes are so bright, he has to wear shades.

• 2:17:49Speaker 01

  You know, to me, to me, it's all about how you present yourself. If you present yourself that you don't care, you're not going to care for the job. Why would I, why would I hire you? So I, I, I do think it's very, very important for people to be thinking about how they're going to be presenting themselves while they're doing a job. Let me give you another one here that I really like with careers that is in the story. So the Chipotle CEO job involves taste testing guacamole has a simple hack for finding your dream job. You ready? Here's how to find your dream job. I want to be on this story for a couple of minutes and then we're going to wrap up. So, Jason Kidd, we did a story on this guy a week and a half ago. Not that Jason Kidd, it's the Chipotle COO Jason Kidd.

• 2:18:32Speaker 01

  Apparently they've hired a PR firm and his name is everywhere lately. Former Taco Bell executive spends his days taste, taste testing food and visiting locations weekly, a role he calls his dream job. His advice for finding yours, don't wait for the perfect opportunity. Just say yes. Even to jobs that don't sound easy or exciting, do the job that someone else doesn't want to do. He said, take the opportunity, move, be uncomfortable. Early in his career, Kidd volunteered for management training programs that involved 4:00 AM closing and overnight shifts while peers worked mid shift. He finished faster and was promoted fast first, not because he was the smartest, but because he gained the most experience the fastest

• 2:19:18Speaker 01

  and saw how every part of the operation worked. Kidd also stresses strong communication with the start, saying owning outcomes and giving good feedback is one of the four traits he looks for when promoting workers. So I'll give you a story. I used to work at Bali Total Fitness for a guy named Robbie Solomon. I know his number till, uh, till today, I can recite his, I'm not going to give it. Well, imagine if I tell people, go text Robbie real quick.

• 2:19:42Speaker 07

  Robbie.

• 2:19:42Speaker 01

  Photo star blowing up. 7,000 text messages. And I left Bally's and I went to start my own startup technology company. We were selling personal profit portals and I was doing that for about a year. Well, guess what? A year later, I'm in debt $49,000. I lose everything. And I come back and I say, Robbie, I need a job. I go from being a superstar in the company, coming up, was going to be a GM supervisor, all that stuff. He says, the only job opening I have for you, buddy, is opening a Hollywood's club. I said, yeah, no problem. What time does the club open? He said, well, you open a club at four o'clock. I said, yeah, four.

• 2:20:19Speaker 23

  4:00 PM is great.

• 2:20:20Speaker 01

  He says, you open a club at 4:00 AM. I said, Robbie. He says, yeah, you just got to be, you're the morning manager. So I said, Robbie, when do people buy? I was one of your top 10 best salespeople nationwide after only being with you for three months at Bally's. Why are you putting a great sales guy in the morning? He says, the only job I got for you, buddy. And he would, oh, buddy, buddy. He was a buddy guy. He would use that word.

• 2:20:42Speaker 23

  Hey pal.

• 2:20:42Speaker 01

  Yeah, he was a buddy. You know, the pal guys?

• 2:20:44Speaker 23

  Yeah, I got me nuts.

• 2:20:46Speaker 01

  So I go in and who comes in? When in your life have you gone to buy a membership between four to 12 o'clock in the morning?

• 2:20:54Speaker 23

  Never.

• 2:20:55Speaker 01

  Who the hell? That was a shift he gave me. Okay, so I went in, said yes, no problem. Got the job from there. You know, later on, other opportunities, went in every time I would get caught reading a book. What are you reading now? You think these business books work? I said, I think they do. He says, look how you ended up back here and you're in debt. These big books don't work. They just write these books to make money. You know, all these guys are scam artists. They just write the books. The way they make their money is by you buying their books and that's how they make their money. I'm like, look, man, I'm reading the books. I'm on my break. Let me read this book, whether it's multiple streams of income or whatever books I'm, Secrets of a Millionaire, all these weird books, you know, I'm reading. If you can be somebody that's doing that, you're going to get so many opportunities. Yesterday, uh, we're offsite here in Rhode Island.

• 2:21:38Speaker 01

  I make a video to send to our guys back at home and I have the book of the month this month that we're reading. Can you pull up the book called The Goal? The Goal. D-G-O-A-L. There you go, The Goal. And can you go to the top right, top left picture of that? Go to the top left. Well, go to this one. This book right here, you know how many copies this book has sold? Can you go on the picture real quick? Can you zoom in a little bit to the bottom right? Over 10 million copies sold. Okay. Iliahu Goldred. This book was written many, many years ago. Anybody that reports directly to Jeff Bezos is required to read this book. I, i, if you, if you work with Musk or others, you're required to read this book. If you're watching this right now, you've never read this book. Go on Amazon and buy this book. I don't own this book. I'm not the author.

• 2:22:22Speaker 01

  I recommend everybody, every one of our employees this month, the book of the month is this book here. You'll see why. So what, what this Jason Kidd, the CEO of Chipotle is talking about, I fully, fully agree with. There's a reason when people always put their hands up, I'll do it. I'll do it. I'll do it. The level of reliability that individual becomes, the CEOs see that things get done through them, they get more opportunities. So I fully agree with what Jason Kidd is saying here in regards to that. And we're going to finish up on that note because we got to wrap up the podcast. So it's been great spending time with you guys, uh, gang. We're going to do it again next week. Monday, we get back in Florida. We've had great times at Rhode Island.

• 2:23:05Speaker 01

  We went to this restaurant called Jesse's Girl Hot Cakes. Incredible that, the, what you ordered that day at the corner of, uh, what was the street? Corner of Preston and.

• 2:23:15Speaker 23

  Preston and Main.

• 2:23:16Speaker 01

  Oh my God, Tom was, Tom met this guy in Rhode Island. He wouldn't stop talking to the guy about data and stats and analytics and they would just became best friends.

• 2:23:24Speaker 23

  Yep.

• 2:23:24Speaker 07

  And we had a debate about where's the best breakers? Here in Rhode Island or in West Palm Beach? It was kind of funny.

• 2:23:30Speaker 01

  Anyways, have a great weekend, gang. We will do this again next week. Take care, everybody. God bless. Bye bye, bye bye.

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