James Comey Indicted + Fauci's Fixer Charged | PBD #789

Patrick Bet-David, Tom Ellsworth, Adam Sosnick, and Vincent Oshana break down James Comey indictment and surrender, the Supreme Court redistricting ruling, Fauci associate charged in COVID fraud, California housing affordability crisis, JPMorgan executive sex trafficking allegations, rising U. S. gas prices, and Candace Owens backlash. ------ 🦁 THE VAULT 2026: AUG 31ST TO SEPT 1ST: https://bit.ly/4mZdLhD 🦁 SPONSOR THE VAULT 2026: https://bit.ly/4mFBPpw Ⓜ️ CONNECT ON MINNECT: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4kSVkso Ⓜ️ PBD PODCAST CIRCLES: https://bit.ly/4mAWQAP 👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: https://bit.ly/4lzQph2 🥃 BOARDROOM CIGAR LOUNGE: https://bit.ly/4pzLEXj 🇰 KALSHI: ⁠http://kalshi.com/pbd⁠ 💬 TEXT US: Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time!

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• 0:14Speaker 00

  My handshake is better than anything I ever signed, right here.

• 0:18Patrick Bet-David?

  You are a one of one?

• 0:19Speaker 02

  My son's right about that.

• 0:20Speaker 00

  I don't think I've ever said this before.

• 0:27Patrick Bet-David?

  You know, you know, things are bad when you don't put your hand in Scott Jennings face.

• 0:32Speaker 03

  Ever.

• 0:32Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't know if you guys saw this, like, what are you doing? Are you guys putting his hands in his face? Scott Jennings flips out. Then we hear all these stories, this executive in Chase, you know, apparently, allegedly, tells this other Indian guy that's got a very interesting looking face, that apparently he told, she told him, "I bet your little Asian fish head wife doesn't have these cannons." Who says that? Who talks like that?

• 0:55Speaker 03

  I hope it's not true.

• 0:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Who talks like that?

• 0:56Speaker 03

  I know, it's not.

• 0:57Patrick Bet-David?

  And then he, like, you, you put, you threaten your employees like that? And by the way, we, so that story got like 40, 50 million views on X yesterday. You know, that's inappropriate to talk like that, Tom. I don't know, like, maybe to you, it's like normal talking like that, it's just not. And then, by the way, a few things that, top stories that we have to go through. The War Powers Act, we have to address that with Pete Hex said yesterday in May 1st deadline. Today is May 1st, it's a special day because Irtan Sena with Jake coming in here telling the story. But, um, yeah, May 1st is a special day, 1994.

• 1:31Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 1:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Jake reminded us, but anyways, also with that, uh, he, you know, May 1st deadline, can he continue war on Iran after that? US-Israel war on Iran news, that's an Al Jazeera story, we'll hit that. Aside from that, Comey, when I saw this, I'm like, there's no way this guy's getting arrested. And he showed up himself, right? When he pulls, he shows up himself, and this is not like, it's not like Todd Blanch did it. It's not like the DOJ did it.

• 1:56Speaker 03

  No.

• 1:56Patrick Bet-David?

  This is a jury, this is a grand jury that came up and, so it's a legit thing that's going on.

• 2:00Speaker 03

  They hear evidence.

• 2:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 2:02Speaker 03

  This isn't out of the blue, you know?

• 2:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Some of them could even be on his side, saying, hey, you can't talk like that. The former director of FBI, you say 86, 47?

• 2:09Speaker 03

  Come on.

• 2:10Patrick Bet-David?

  And then Clip comes out with the, the, the lyric center crushed it. They're out of business. Apparently the FBI saying nobody's working at it there and some people saying Nick Shirley should get credit for that. They shouldn't get credit for that. I think he definitely should get credit for that. And then Fauci, one of Fauci's partners came up and apparently he got in trouble. We'll talk about that. Redistricting, massive story. The moment that story was dropped, I had Governor Westmore here, we were talking about it. And it's definitely it's 12 additional seats Republicans pick up like this. Four in Florida. This is massive. Just so you know that for this to go through. Spencer Pratt pulls up the best campaign

• 2:50Patrick Bet-David?

  video ad we've seen in a long time. And it had a direct impact on Kalshi. Okay, on Kalshi immediately. Erica Kirk came up and she, she shot a video. Some say she was dressed like Eminem, but she shot a video talking about, you know, people that are criticizing, you know, there was so much reaction to it, you know, that we have to talk about it. Everybody's like, how come you're not talking about? I'm like, I don't want to talk about my friend's wife. But, you know, we will, we will talk about it and give some thoughts here. The guys want to talk about it. They got some, you know, things they want to share about that. And then aside from that, you know, you ever hear the saying, you know, this person's the cure for insomnia. You ever hear that saying, like if you have a sleeping problem?

• 3:35Patrick Bet-David?

  This is like scientific right now. It's no longer like being disputed. Scientists are agreeing with this. Kamala Harris is the cure for insomnia. This man who's a saxophone guy, poor guy sitting there trying to do his job. Kamala Harris is giving a speech. He's knocked out on the other side. He's putting Big Pharma out of business. This guy's putting Big Pharma out of business. Big Pharma's selling medicine to put people to sleep. They're like, no, just put Kamala Harris for a speech. You'll fall asleep. And by the, what's crazy is, Vinny, that she, she just went up on Kalshi and, and you know, the fact that she could be the nominee. You know, they're like, she could be the nominee as a leading candidate and who knows? It'd be great because she'll-

• 4:10Tom Ellsworth?

  Small numbers, but 4X over 4 days.

• 4:12Patrick Bet-David?

  It is what it is. 4X over 4 days, you gotta respect it. Trump compliments this NASA scientist's ears in a very Trump way that you have to see. He says, "Look at his ears." You know, what did he say? "He can hear anything?" He's like, "This guy is so funny." I don't even want it-

• 4:29Tom Ellsworth?

  That's like your buddy on the NFL, Nestor.

• 4:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, no, he's the GOAT. No, that guy's the GOAT. Nobody, listen, nobody, nobody puts him in the corner. That guy's got the ears. One of a kind. He knows who he is. He's listening. He listens to every conversation in the world. And then aside from that, we have a couple of other things. Video comes out, doing MRI on, study on kids, on the power of watching videos. What it does to you on, what do you call it? Doom scrolling or dead scrolling? What is the phrase? Doom scrolling. Doom scrolling. How it is for you, how bad it is for you. A couple of the videos that came up about zombie-like state San Francisco, drug addicts. You got Tesla hits a milestone with semi-truck production. The stock is up. What else can I talk about? Friggin' Anna Paulina Luna, rock star, rock star.

• 5:16Patrick Bet-David?

  They're trying to do whatever they can because she is exposing a lot of stuff. She's such a rock star. Great job for what she's doing. Gas prices, wherever you are, it's probably not at a discount right now. It apparently hit, touch $126, okay? Which is the highest in 4 years. Hit 126. Some are now saying it could go to $200. Some are concerned about it. And then we got Elon and OpenAI, Sam Altman's lawyer, getting into a fight. And one story that I don't appreciate, really pisses me off, honestly, to, you know, this is the kind of stories that you read and you're like, "You guys gotta get your act together." Why 47 is the age, you hit peak happiness, according to science. I'm done. After 47, you're screwed, okay? But 47 is the age.

• 6:02Patrick Bet-David?

  We're gonna try to prove that wrong, to see if they know what they're talking about.

• 6:05Tom Ellsworth?

  That's a big number.

• 6:05Patrick Bet-David?

  That's a big number, 47. So, having said that, before we get started, I don't like that Joe Kick is out to the Nuggets. That's the team I was rooting for. I don't like that. I don't like that Anthony Edwards is injured, makes the NBA boring. A bunch of people are getting injured. You know, similar move, he was trying to make a couple of guys on their ACL that, you know, I relate to as a professional athlete here on our campus. But- We're rooting for Wemby. I want to see Wemby. I'm very proud of the New York Mets for having the worst record in Major League Baseball.

• 6:35Tom Ellsworth?

  Nice.

• 6:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Congratulations to the Mets. You guys are crushing it with the biggest payroll. And you can't even buy wins anymore. It's terrible. I feel bad for them. Because at least the Dodgers can buy wins. You know, when they go pay $7 billion or however much money they're paying the players, they're winning. But this is going to be an interesting season for baseball.

• 6:52Tom Ellsworth?

  7.2.

• 6:53Patrick Bet-David?

  7.2 billion. Having said that, okay, a couple of things I want to share with you. One, one, the FOB shoes. People were messaging me, size 14. It's coming soon. They were messaging us about a couple of different things that's coming up as well. Pat, what's the surprise with the big shoe? We have a lot of stuff that's going on, but right now, when you look at this, a couple of these sizes, 10, 10 and 1/2, 11, we have less than 40 pairs of those sizes. So if you're somebody that wants to get your Future Looks Bright shoes and you haven't yet for yourself or your spot, go get them. Especially if you're walking a lot. Yesterday, we're sitting in a meeting, literally Tom and I, in Palm Beach with two billionaires, of which

• 7:34Patrick Bet-David?

  one of them gave $50 million to, you know, he gave a lot of money to the previous campaign. And we're talking business, we're talking about all this other stuff. And I say, hey, one of our products is this shoe. I take the shoe out, the guy literally grabs the shoe out of my hand. He says, you gotta be kidding me. These are $600?

• 7:50Tom Ellsworth?

  Show me that.

• 7:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, these are 600. I say, yeah, they're 600. Xenias are $1,200. And they have the super foam, and they're light, and they're comfortable, and they're made in the same exact factories as, you know, Hermes and Louis Vuitton and all this other stuff. So if you haven't yet picked that up, Rob, go play the clip about FOB shoes and then we'll get right into the podcast. When we set out to create a shoe that blends comfort, function, and luxury, we had the choice to make it fast. We had the choice to make it cheap. We chose neither. Instead, we chose Tuscanyero. We chose true Italian craftsmanship. Each pair touched by 50 skilled hands. We chose patience, spending two years perfecting every detail, and we

• 8:32Patrick Bet-David?

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• 8:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Go to VTMerge.com, place your order, get yourself, your spouse, your husband, your son, client of yours, NFLB, future looks bright shoe, designed in Florida, 100% made in Italy. With that being said, let's get right into it. The story I want to get into is May 1st is a deadline. Can he continue war on Iran after that? Story pops out, Rob, I think you got a video on this. There's two of them, one of them is the Pete Hex said one, the other one is the fact that May 1st is a deadline. Let's start off with the Pete Hex said one, go for it.

• 9:23Speaker 05

  Ultimately, I would defer to the White House and White House counsel on that. However, we are in a ceasefire right now, which our understanding means the 60-day clock pauses or stops in a ceasefire. So, you're not in, that's, it's our understanding, just so you know.

• 9:38Adam Sosnick?

  Okay, well, I do not believe the statute would support that. I think the 60 days runs maybe tomorrow, and that's going to pose a really important legal question for the administration. We have serious constitutional concerns, and we don't want to layer those with additional statutory concerns. I yield back, Mr.

• 9:56Patrick Bet-David?

  All right, Rob, is that the clip on the war powers?

• 9:59Speaker 05

  Yes, sir.

• 10:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so, this was a conversation that also came up in the meeting that we had yesterday. Senate Republicans are calling on Trump administration to clarify how it is interpreting the 60-day clock under the War Powers Act, its military campaign against Iran. The 60-day deadline, depending on who's counting, is arriving on requiring the president to seek authorization or wind up operation, wind down operation. The first strike against Iran was February 28th, but Defense Secretary Pete Sec, Pete Sec, that offered a different view during the testimony before the Senate Armed Services Committee, suggesting the clock can pause or stop during the ceasefire. Republicans include some of who have flirted with supporting a War Powers Resolution, appeared open to exit's interpretation.

• 10:43Patrick Bet-David?

  It sounds like there's some wiggle room he provided there for himself, said Senator Todd Young from Indiana. Will take a look, whatever they send over, presumably they'll communicate that in a formal way. They have in a very careful way followed the War Powers Act so far. Tom, I believe the War Powers Act... Is the one from Nixon in 73 that he was not supportive of? That you have to go get approval for everything with Congress? So tell us why this is so important?

• 11:08Tom Ellsworth?

  So the War Powers Act happened in 1973. And 1973 was significant because for four years, the United States had been secretly bombing the living squat out of Cambodia from 1969 to 1973. It was called the secret bombing of Cambodia because they thought that there were communist insurgents that were over there operating camps, supply lines, and a lot of havoc that they were flowing into Vietnam. And everybody wanted the Lyndon Johnson's war. Because remember, the Vietnam War hit full speed within a year of Johnson being president. And actually, practically before all of the national mourning over Kennedy was over, Johnson

• 11:50Tom Ellsworth?

  had already met with military leaders and strategists and elected to escalate what was going on in Vietnam. So this had been going on for like years and years and years. And finally, Pat, the US Congress is like, "Look, if we can't get a ceasefire, we can't get out of Vietnam and all these people are being drafted." And, you know, I had an uncle that went and didn't come back, unfortunately, and his name's on the Vietnam War wall there in Washington. And so Congress came up, Pat, and said, "Okay, stop. Unless you have specific instructions and support and a vote that says, 'Yes, we're declaring war,'" just like when the president went before Congress and said, "I want you

• 12:34Tom Ellsworth?

  to declare war on Japan after Pearl Harbor." It was a very formal vote. And the Congress said, "Yes, we're declaring war." So it was all aligned. And, you know, Vietnam was not aligned. So all of this madness came together, Pat, in 1973. And they said, "That's it." A president can go 60 days if they have to do some sort of emergency act. Some bad thing happened. You know, this is what goes on, Vinny. You know what I mean? The military has to respond and do something about something. And you can't, you know, wait for Congress and enable gazing. And you can't put your plans in public. So Congress said, okay, that is, it is, it is true that the president needs the pen, Pat, to act as a leader and to take steps. But after 60 days, if it's going further, you gotta get our permission.

• 13:18Tom Ellsworth?

  And that's the War Powers Act. And that's why they put it in place.

• 13:21Speaker 03

  Vinny. And Mike, and thank you, Pat. My question to you is, Tom, does, uh, does Pete Hexeth and the Department of War have to prove with intel behind closed doors, not in front of the public, that these threats, the nuclear plans and all that stuff is actually valid to continue it? Because I think 60 days is still a lot to just go, okay, we're gonna go to war because we said this and then we're gonna go. After 60 days, do they have to prove that this is correct? Is that what you're saying?

• 13:48Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, the test is called the unavoidable military necessity.

• 13:51Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 13:52Tom Ellsworth?

  And there are subcommittees that are secret subcommittees. There are, um, I believe there's 11 congressmen right now that will get secret briefings from the Department of Defense. It's like the Defense Select Subcommittee or something like that. Rob, if you look it up, I think that's what it's called. I think, I think it is called that. The Defense Select Subcommittee. And so the president, Joint Chiefs, and only those people know to create, um, uh, you know, these committees for the purpose of discussing it. But it's unavoidable military necessity that they have to be convinced. And so they said, okay. Then the Subcommittee whispers to everybody else, we need to vote yes on this. We've seen it.

• 14:33Speaker 03

  Got you.

• 14:34Tom Ellsworth?

  We, representative of Congress, we've seen this, we've talked to them. Yep, there, there it is. There, there it is. Unavoidable military necessity. Uh, right there.

• 14:43Speaker 03

  So that's a checks and, so Tom, that's a checks and balance, even though, I mean, it is, you know, if a president says, hey, we're gonna go to war, we're gonna go to war. But at least this, after 60 days, is a checks and balances to go, okay, enough is enough. You guys don't have any proof or, or whatever, whichever way that they go.

• 14:56Tom Ellsworth?

  Right, but we live in a world where, aha, chewing gum in class, impeach the bastard. Yeah. It's even, it's terrible. Andrew's gum in class, we all know that. And it's, no, no, I'm being, I'm being ridiculous for a reason, I think you understand, Adam. It's like, it's ridiculous, we want to go after our president rather than trying to get ourselves toward, you know, a more unified, you know, world, and yes, war is a serious thing, but that's what's going on. They're like, ha ha, it's May 1st, if you keep doing this, now we're gonna come after you. I feel like now, you know, Iran could practically, you know, nuke Pakistan, and the US Congress wouldn't vote, you know, to give him war powers, simply because they want to catch him and they want to do these

• 15:39Tom Ellsworth?

  things. Because I honestly think that the Dem side of this doesn't care, although I, with the same voice, I'll say, you know what, you know, I want this thing over. Yeah, you and me both.

• 15:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, but let me tell you, there's some people that are the extremists that are gonna use this to say, this gives Congress the power to want to impeach and hold them accountable because they're gonna do it. So the games are about to start.

• 16:01Tom Ellsworth?

  It's a big game.

• 16:01Patrick Bet-David?

  And you know who knows about this leverage as well? Iran knows about this leverage on how they don't roll with this. I want to show a couple of clips, and then, Adam, I'm gonna come to you. First clip I want to show you, Rob, if you want to go to Hexet, is what he does, these three clips, I want to show all three of them, very important. Here's Hexet going back and forth with Elizabeth Warren. Go ahead, Rob.

• 16:20Speaker 05

  What I give, what you give, what others give, I'm not looking for money, I don't do it for money, I don't do it for profit, I don't do it for stocks, and that's part of the reason why I'm able to be effective in this job, because no one owns me, no one owns this department, no one owns this president, and we can execute for the American people, and we do.

• 16:36Patrick Bet-David?

  So, that's Hexet, this one viral. Another clip is him going back and forth on a completely different point of the mantra being, you know, diversity, and look what he had to say here, go for it. Hexet was on fire yesterday.

• 16:49Speaker 05

  I haven't talked about it as much in these hearings because this is a budget hearing about 1.5 trillion that's historic and significant. But underwriting the change that we've seen at our department was a laser focus on getting back to basics. And the key word to that is merit. We had a department that was obsessed with gender, ideology, and race, diversity, equity, and inclusion. In fact, the mantra you would hear dripping from the lips of generals with a serious look on their face was, "Our diversity is our strength."

• 17:22Patrick Bet-David?

  It's the dumbest thing ever.

• 17:24Speaker 05

  Which is the single dumbest phrase in military history. Of course, our diversity is not our strength. Our unity is our strength, our shared purpose, the flag we wear and the constitution we serve to defend. And when you clear that debris away, whether it's Marxist ideologies, or social engineering, or political correctness, or quotas based on gender and diversity, you get the best of the best rising up regardless of gender, regardless of race, motivated by that environment where merit reigns, its accountability.

• 17:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Common sense. And then go to the last one, Rob. And by the way, Raul Cana called them out and said, "Hey, this has cost American people X, Y, Z amount of money because of gas prices." But this is another one here, Rob, if you want to play.

• 19:06Speaker 07

  Always had a merit-based system. That's not the argument.

• 19:09Speaker 05

  No, we have not. Not under the Biden administration. We did not. It became social engineering, not merit, and we're fixing it quick.

• 19:14Speaker 07

  No, it did not.

• 19:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, so you say, no, it's not. And go on the bottom of the tweet. If you can see the picture, go click on that.

• 19:20Adam Sosnick?

  That's real, by the way.

• 19:21Patrick Bet-David?

  That's what we were dealing with.

• 19:22Adam Sosnick?

  That's absolutely real.

• 19:24Patrick Bet-David?

  That's what we were dealing with. So don't tell me all this BS on what happened. The pictures and the documentation is there. Adam, where are you at with the story?

• 19:29Adam Sosnick?

  Look, here's what I think is going on. So the way that the War Powers Act works is this. So the president can start a fight, and he could, in the case of Iran, whoop some frickin' A double S. But after 60 days, the Congress gets to go, no, no, no, timeout, timeout, timeout. You can't keep fighting without permission.

• 19:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 19:48Adam Sosnick?

  So what Pete Hexeth did was like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. There's a loophole here. We're in a ceasefire right now. We're technically not even fighting for the last couple of weeks. So the 60 days doesn't even count. So there's sort of like a loophole timeout situation. It's like, this is a random reference. You'll get this. Remember in Wayne's World? The great movie, classic movie, when they were playing hockey in the street? And he's like, game on!

• 20:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 20:13Adam Sosnick?

  And then a car would come, game off!

• 20:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 20:15Adam Sosnick?

  That's what's going on here right now. There's like, no, you can't do this because it's... By the way, speaking of the War Powers Act, Libya, when Obama did that, he did it without the congressional approval. Afghanistan, we've been doing this war in Iran for how many weeks now? About eight weeks? How long were we in Afghanistan? That wasn't a war. That was a mission trip. So the hypocrisy is kind of, kind of out there. But the last point is this. It's amazing to me how the Democrats hate what's going on in Iran for the last eight weeks, but love the last four years of the war in Ukraine. Which one is it? They love Biden's war, but they hate Trump's war. I'm smelling a little hypocrisy there.

• 20:55Speaker 03

  And just FYI, if, in regard to Pete Hexeth, you want that guy in charge of the Department of War? Because at the end of the day, our military, we need, bro, you have to have trained killers. Sorry, it's brutally honest. The mission is to protect the country from evil, foreign and... They have to protect us, and that's the guy that you want. He's not worried about masks. He's not worried about LGBTQ.

• 21:21Patrick Bet-David?

  But I'm telling you, you're gonna expect a lot of games. It is officially opened up for a lot of games, and FYI, if, if... Congress, they lose the House, which the redistricting thing that happened is massive. But let's just say they control the House. Immediately, 2027, all you get, 2027 could be the year of gridlock. It's gonna be the year of gridlock. Everything is locked up in politics, nothing's gonna get done. It's gonna be fight, fight, fight, back to impeach, impeach, impeach. And it's gonna go into 2028 presidential election, and then that's gonna come next. So, to me, this could lead to a lot of nasty stuff. So, one of the things that happened that's massive. You see the tweet from President Obama, I brought this up to Governor Westmore, we were talking about it.

• 22:04Patrick Bet-David?

  And, all of a sudden, you know, phone starts blowing up that Obama just tweeted this. What did he tweet? He tweeted about, you know, how massive this is, how horrible this is for America. And when Obama says something like that, obviously, the people that are, you know, on the complete opposite side, they're like, if Obama's pissed off, that means something good is going on. Rob, just go to his account, just, just go to people. All you have to do is go to people, yeah. So, you, you, you see, I don't know if it's this one or not, Rob, we had it a couple of days ago, just, yeah. So, right there, okay. So, this is the tweet that he puts up there, says, "Terry's Supreme Court decision effectively guts a key pillar of the Voting Rights Act free and state legislator

• 22:45Patrick Bet-David?

  to gerrymander legislative district to systematically dilute and weaken the voting power of racial minorities so long as they do it under the guise of partisanship, rather than explicit racial bias. And it serves as just one more example of how majority of the Supreme Court seems intent on abandoning its role in ensuring equal participation in our democracy." Anyways, the good news is that we can come back and pa, pa, pa, pa, pa, by winning elections, by winning midterms. So, he's kinda using this as that. Why is this such a big deal? If you go to the actual article, Rob, and show what it did. On the redistricting side, which is absolutely massive, absolutely massive.

• 23:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Supreme Court ruled for it. So what do you mean Supreme Court ruled for it? Supreme Court ruled for it, six to three. And this Supreme Court that ruled for it allows, if this goes through, okay? Six, three, Louisiana's 2024 mid decade redistricting that produce a Serpentine District represented by this, calling it an illegal racial gerrymandering, while Obama argued the decision weakened the Voting Rights Act. Do you have that image, Rob, of shows all the states of what the plus minus is? You know, the one that we showed a couple of days ago?

• 24:01Tom Ellsworth?

  The Northeast?

• 24:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, my God, no, not the Northeast, the Southeast, I think, is the one. Uh, um, yeah, I, we just showed it a couple of days ago. When you see, Vinny, have you seen this?

• 24:11Speaker 03

  I have, I have.

• 24:11Patrick Bet-David?

  It is unbelievable. We just showed the two days ago.

• 24:15Speaker 03

  Was the one that I saw the middle, it was like all the way in the middle? It was cut out?

• 24:18Patrick Bet-David?

  I think it's a first row. Yeah, if you zoom into this one, okay, is it an image or is it a video? Um, see if he can zoom in. There's one of them. We showed it a couple of days ago. Anyways, let me just read this and then Rob will find it on why this, well, Tom, I'll come to you here. Why is this such a big deal? Rob, I'll find it and send it to you.

• 24:38Tom Ellsworth?

  Right, it's such a big deal because something that was good becomes bad in the hands of government. Like, once upon a time, your money was good. As soon as they get it, they spend it twice and put you in debt. So what happened was, once upon a time, they had the Voting Rights Act because they wanted to make sure that all people everywhere had the right to vote. Citizens had the right to vote. This is a good thing. But then what they did, and by the way, this has got fingerprints all the way to the Southern Poverty Law Center. Ladies and gentlemen, they all said, well, we need a district here that's more like this. We need a district here that's more like that.

• 25:19Tom Ellsworth?

  So they started drawing lines, Pat, to create, well, we think it would be more fair. Well, wait, who's making the decision? We, we who? We are. And Democrats started drawing odd districts rather than territorial districts. Now, each district needs to have a certain number of citizens in it. So, most people said, "Well, why don't we draw these districts so that they have the number of citizens and make them reasonably sized?" Why reasonably sized? Well, so that Vinnie, as congressman, could serve all the people in a given area and that it rains on them the same way, the economy is the same way, and Vinnie can serve them. Instead, they made these bizarre districts, and I'll let you get to this one.

• 26:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, this right here. So, if you look at this, Vinnie. This is current, and that's what's gonna happen on the right after the Supreme Court ruling. So, you see the blue? They call the bottom left, the one on Louisiana, all the way to the left. You see that, how it looks like a snake? They call that the snake, yes. So, this was racial gerrymandering, is what they call it. There's partisan, there's bipartisan, there's racial. They're calling this, the Supreme Court ruled, that this is racial gerrymandering. Democrats held 24 seats in these states. Now, after what just passed, Vinnie, Republicans gained 12 more seats, including nine without Section 2 of the VRA. Florida alone picked up four new seats with this new ruling.

• 26:44Patrick Bet-David?

  So, the reason why this is very important, even if they win the midterms, it may not matter because you're gonna have to beat out more than these seats. That's what a lot of people, that's what caused Barack Obama to get out of bed to tweet. He doesn't tweet like Trump tweets. His tweets are, once a week, he's a scheduled guy. He's got, he's got stuff to do. He's very busy. So, you know, the Republicans here are celebrating, saying, "This could be a massive thing." So, now the Democrats are sitting around saying, "What are we gonna do next? What, what can we do ourselves?" This is the challenge. Tom, go ahead, continue.

• 27:12Tom Ellsworth?

  Now, Kathy Hochul speaks up. "Oh, my gosh, my gosh, my gosh." But then she gets busted. Rob, show the map. Kathy Hochul helped draw this one in New York.

• 27:26Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, that really makes it easy for a House of Representatives to serve the people. You go all the way down Manhattan, cross the bridge, go on the backside of here, go around here, make a left, and then go down to another group of people. This is gerrymandering, where they're trying to determine the outcome. Right? Because when natural, when just natural boundaries of cities, areas, states were not to their preferences, then what do they want to put? They want to put DEI. What do they want to put? They want to put the gerrymandering. And then, remember, Rule 1: accuse the other guy.

• 28:00Speaker 03

  Of what you're doing. Of what you're guilty of.

• 28:02Tom Ellsworth?

  Correct. To, to cover up the fact that you're doing it anyway. And that's what happened here. And so now, the gerrymandering, you know, of these bizarre districts goes back. Now, Pat, there's still going to be arguments of, wait, should that square district be two miles to the, to the west of town, or two miles to the east? So there's still going to be arguments on this, but when you get more natural-looking districts, look at what happens. The South is inherently conservative. The Northeast will still be liberal, but you won't have this bizarre here, because ask yourself a question. Take a look at that, Adam. Do you think that, if you were the Congressman of New York, Adam, do you think that map there, that he just showed, does that make it easy for you to serve the people? How do you serve the people?

• 28:47Speaker 03

  It's a long walk, and you gotta make a right, left, and you got, it's like, it's very complicated. And all this, all this, all this, because this party has zero leaders, Pat, with any policies. So these are the little games that they have to play. And notice how now the Republicans have to play the game back at them. But why don't you have a good freaking leader? Have somebody to step up with policies. This doesn't even have to, you don't have to worry about this, Tom. Does that make sense? Adam, your thoughts?

• 29:11Tom Ellsworth?

  Look, at the end of the day, the Supreme Court basically said, "Yeah, enough with the racism."

• 29:17Adam Sosnick?

  You're drawing districts and gerrymandering and redistricting and everything you're doing based on race. I think specifically black people. That's what they're doing. Now, it'd be a very weird situation if everybody in the country had to robotically vote based on their race. The whites vote for this, the blacks vote for this, Latinos vote for this, the Jews, they're confused, they don't know where to go these days. But you know who's loving this right now? One group, the NFL. Why? Because the NFL has been telling us for years that we need to end racism. It's in all the end zones. The NBA also, they're doing the bubble, the social justice warriors, guys, we're ending racism methodically. So now the whole

• 30:00Adam Sosnick?

  conversation is going to be about midterms. You remember, four years ago, they were talking about the big red wave that was supposedly coming, and it was like a red teardrop because it didn't happen. Now, maybe, just maybe, PBD, is this alleged blue wave that's coming, might not come at all. So we'll see. At the end of the day, it comes down to, he who controls the map, controls the power, and I think Republicans just said, ah, ah, ah, checkmate, here's what we got from the Supreme Court.

• 30:26Patrick Bet-David?

  You know what I would say? He who controls the Supreme Court, controls a lot of things.

• 30:32Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 30:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Six to three, are you flipping kidding me?

• 30:35Adam Sosnick?

  You said that in 2020.

• 30:36Patrick Bet-David?

  I said, the most important thing that has happened.

• 30:39Adam Sosnick?

  Is these guys.

• 30:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Is the fact that it's six to three, and one of them is not well right now, and it's on the left, so he may even be replaced, that it could end up being a seven-two before he's done with. That's a very, very important.

• 30:50Adam Sosnick?

  Who's on the left that's not well?

• 30:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Who was the one that was not doing well? It's the gentleman that's 73, 74 years old, he had a hospital scare recently.

• 30:56Adam Sosnick?

  Alito?

• 30:57Patrick Bet-David?

  I think it's Alito.

• 30:58Adam Sosnick?

  No, but he's, he's full-on conservative.

• 31:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Not Alito, not Alito, it was another one that wasn't doing well.

• 31:04Adam Sosnick?

  Clarence Thomas?

• 31:05Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, no, not conservative. It was somebody on the left.

• 31:07Adam Sosnick?

  RBG?

• 31:08Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't, I don't know who it is. RBG.

• 31:10Adam Sosnick?

  No, I'm just, I mean.

• 31:11Patrick Bet-David?

  RBG is.

• 31:12Adam Sosnick?

  Rest her soul.

• 31:13Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't, I don't recall that. I think the three on the left are sort of my aura.

• 31:15Adam Sosnick?

  That's a Supreme Court justice with a three-record deal.

• 31:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Hattie Brown Jackson. This is a, this is a very, very, very big situation here. Very, very big situation. Oh, he was a conservative. Alito was on the conservative side. I thought it was somebody on the other side.

• 31:30Adam Sosnick?

  Sometimes they vote with the dissenting party.

• 31:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Even if that goes, they're still going to maintain a six-three. This is probably more than being a president. This control here with Supreme Court is massive. Because if this was the other way around, six to three, what do you think happens right now? This racial gerrymandering continued. And it's the whole DEI conversations, fairness, all this stuff. So anyways, this is a good thing. This is a good thing, not for everybody. But this is a good thing for a lot of people. The next one I want to get into is Comey. So while all this stuff is going on, next thing you know, a story comes out. Even Vinnie was like hopeful. He's like, wait a minute, is there actually going to be accountability? So you mean to tell me Comey went and, you know, took him, surrenders himself to the police? Yes, that did not happen. Yes.

• 32:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Which clip do you have, Rob? With James Comey going out there and surrendering to the police?

• 32:22Tom Ellsworth?

  I have CNN reporting that he turned himself into police.

• 32:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, go for it. Play that one first.

• 32:26Speaker 08

  Major breaking news on the new indictment against former FBI Director James Comey. We've learned that Comey has just surrendered himself at a federal courthouse in Virginia. Facing a new set of charges, all because of a social media post.

• 32:37Patrick Bet-David?

  All because of it. That's it. Not a big deal. Yeah.

• 32:41Speaker 08

  Comey posted this photo to Instagram last year showing shells on a beach spelling out eighty-six, forty-seven.

• 32:48Patrick Bet-David?

  That's right.

• 32:49Speaker 08

  Eighty-six is slang for getting rid of or cutting someone off at a bar. Trump, of course, is the forty-seventh president. Prosecutors say that is a clear threat. Comey, though, says he is innocent.

• 33:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay.

• 33:02Speaker 09

  Well, they're back. This time about a picture of seashells on a North Carolina beach a year ago. And this won't be the end of it. But nothing has changed with me. I'm still innocent. I'm still not afraid. And I still believe in the independent federal judiciary, so let's go.

• 33:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh. Pause it right there. And then Trump had a couple of thoughts to say about it, Rob, if I'm not mistaken. You have that one as well?

• 33:29Speaker 05

  Do you really think your life was in danger?

• 33:31Speaker 02

  Probably, I don't know, you know, based on, based on what I'm seeing out there, yeah. The people like Comey have created tremendous danger, I think, for politicians and others. He, you know, Comey is a dirty cop. He's a very dirty cop. He cheated on the elections. He tried to help Hillary Clinton, as you know. He dismissed a lot of things that he should have proceeded with. I wasn't involved, but he should have proceeded with. No, he's a dirty cop. He's a crooked man, yeah.

• 34:01Speaker 03

  So just, I want to let everybody know, and Rob, I sent you some stuff on Slack, and also I'm gonna, I'm gonna show you something. I got into another argument that's still happening right now with ChatGPT. It's in complete denial that Comey was indicted, and I'm, I'll do an exercise with Rob here in a second. Guys, for everybody that's saying, "Oh, they're, they're going after Comey, his political..." Do me a favor, shut up, okay? A grand jury indicted Comey, okay? Not the Department of Justice. The grand jury sits in a, in a courtroom and they hear evidence and came back with a two-count indictment. And his indictments are, number one, knowingly and willfully making a threat to take the life and to inflict bodily harm on the president. And second, knowingly and willfully transmitting

• 34:43Speaker 03

  an interstate commerce a threat to kill the president. That means you're on social media, you're out there, and you're putting it out in the world. Now, now, and Rob, um, I, these are the, the links that I sent you. The DOJ is now seizing, pushing to seize Comey's profits from his crime book, uh, uh, book, as prosecutors believe part of the reason he posted a threat on Trump's life was to drum up book sales. The forfeit action includes, and Comey's indictment points out that Comey posted the threat five days before the book released, which was May 2, 2025. His IG shows 8647, was surrounded by the book promo post, uh, and the indictment demands Comey forfeits of, to the United States, any property, real

• 35:24Speaker 03

  or personal, which constitutes or is derived from proceeds traceable to set offense. In fact, this is his book. This is his, Comey, he's bragging about the book, and look at what's in the book. It says- Um, former director Comey reunites with propagandists of his first legal thrillers for strongest outlying yet. The US attorney Carmen Garcia is trying to take down Samuel Buchanan. This is in the book. A far right media personality with a popular podcast vilifying those he thinks are destroying America. Ready for this? This is the part intellectuals, immigrants, and people of color. Here we go. Garcia believes Buchanan went far beyond the protection of the First Amendment. When he signed, uh, signaled out his enemies by name and suggested something should be done

• 36:06Speaker 03

  about them. His fans have obliged killing or grievously injuring some of his foes. Tell me that's not a freaking dog whistle about his stupid book and him trying to call it out. And let's all, let's just all take a moment. Stop playing this game back because I keep hearing it from the left. No, he just stumbled. You believe he stumbled upon shells that said 8647. You're lying to yourself. And do me a favor, uh, Rob. Go to chat GPT. I hope yours is different than mine because mine won't do it. Go to chat GPT. I put, uh, was James Comey indicted on two counts? Let's see if it does it because it's not doing it for me. Watch this, Pat. Let's see. I think it might do, it might do. Oh, it's doing it for you. It's not doing it for me. Let's see. Oh, yes.

• 36:49Speaker 03

  Okay. Mine and I'll show you right now, Pat. Just so I want to prove to everybody out here. Mine says what? My chat GPT is saying what?

• 36:57Patrick Bet-David?

  No, James Comey has not been indicted. There's no confirmed charge from the US Department of Justice. No court ruling.

• 37:04Speaker 03

  And it's, I've been going back with this thing for hours. Did you see the argument? But I want, and I'll admit it. I didn't have that much hope, but I didn't give it up. This is what I'm talking about. You, you, you, you do the crime, you're going to pay the price. And let's see, let's see if it sticks because again, he's indicted. They're gonna, it's gonna go in front of the, the grand jury. The, the case is going to be heard, but I'm happy, Pat. Something is happening. Was he, was he, uh, on the auto pen? Was he pardoned? James Comey? Was he?

• 37:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Check to see if Comey was pardoned.

• 37:36Speaker 03

  Was he pardoned, Rob? That's a, that's something I want to know. I don't think he was. I know Fauci wasn't, we'll get into that story. No, he wasn't. Okay, so this is a good sign. And this proves what Todd Blanch is doing, Pat. Todd Blanch, you have to give this guy credit. In less than a month, this is happening. SPLC is happening for the funding of the KKK. Fauci's advisor, we're going to get to. The COVID Somalia daycare. He is not, Brennan's under investigation. The January 6 liar. Cassidy Hutchinson's getting investigated. He's not playing games, and I absolutely love it. And this proves that-

• 38:08Patrick Bet-David?

  I think the Brennan investigation, they dropped.

• 38:09Speaker 03

  They did?

• 38:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, they dropped immediately.

• 38:11Speaker 03

  But in less than a month-

• 38:12Patrick Bet-David?

  But he's doing it.

• 38:13Speaker 03

  Look what he's doing, yeah.

• 38:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Is this Todd Blanch speaking? Go for it.

• 38:18Speaker 10

  Justice Department, in this filing today, also issued an arrest warrant for Mr. Comey. Is it your belief that he is a continued public threat? And is there, is there a request also for detention that you anticipate will be made in this case?

• 38:35Speaker 11

  So the Department of Justice does not issue arrest warrants. Grand juries do. And so the grand jury returned an indictment and arrest warrant. I expect that there will be communication with, with Mr. Comey's counsel, and we'll go from there. This case will proceed like hundreds of others do every year. There will be some sort of arraignment set by the judge or assigned to the magistrate judge. And when that happens, you'll know about it.

• 39:02Patrick Bet-David?

  This is big, by the way. This could be very, very real. Tom?

• 39:05Tom Ellsworth?

  So first of all, I think it's still shocking that reporters that could do basic research about process, just like we do, don't do that. And they attempt to ask these gotcha questions. Or they do the research and they still ask the gotcha questions. So the reporting just disappoints me yet again. Doesn't surprise me. But the other side of it here is- There's two things that just happened in the past week that I connected the dots on, and it really bothers me. And I was talking to one of my daughters about it last night. The first is Cole Thomas Allen puts a manifesto out, and then everybody puts on Twitter, I mean, everybody, many significant people, including Obama himself, put out on Twitter, "Gosh, we don't understand what the motive is. We don't understand what's going on." Although.

• 39:48Speaker 03

  Although.

• 39:49Tom Ellsworth?

  Although, right? We don't have that, and, you know, we turned down the rhetoric. And finally, a few people, like, you know, Van Jones, I appreciated what Van Jones said on CNN. He was measured. He kind of, did you see this, Pat? He kind of slowed down a bit, and he said, "I'm a little worried about what's happening here." We played it, yeah. And some people are there thinking about it, but you've got, "Oh, we don't know what this is." When the top law enforcement officer in the United States at the time, you know, now goes walking a beach in 8647, that's a call. That's an encouragement. That's an angry statement that he's putting out there. And we wonder how Cole Thomas Allen

• 40:32Tom Ellsworth?

  and others feel enabled, or feel that they're validated. And he writes in there about who he's apologizing for and who he's doing it for. And to me, you can't have it both ways. You can't say, "I got no idea how a guy like Cole Thomas Allen gets radicalized." Well, he wasn't radicalized by a particular, you know, group of people that he was hanging out with. It was just, he reached his breaking point. But what's he reading every day? What's he looking at? Maybe a leader doing things like this? I mean, it disgusts me, Pat, because I look at it that way. Now, the one thing I will say about Comey, I think this was strategic by Comey. If you go in and surrender, I don't think you get the perp walk. And

• 41:17Tom Ellsworth?

  what he didn't want was somebody to come to his door and knock on the door, Pat, and say, "Hey, James, you gotta come with us. You know, we gotta go do the, we gotta process you." "Yep, okay," and get in the back of a car. I think he was being strategic about it. Didn't want that, didn't want to have all those pictures on social media and everything. So he goes in and says, "Hey, guys..." I'm surrendering here. Let's do the processing so it's done more quietly. I think it was strategic because he's trying to keep it out of the public eye.

• 41:46Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 41:46Tom Ellsworth?

  And then he goes home and makes his little cute little, little video that he puts out.

• 41:50Speaker 03

  And he's been by the, let's not forget who James Comey is, Pat. He's been around since the Hillary and then changing the charging dock, uh, all the stuff that they did, Russia collusion, everything this is, he's not, Trump fired this guy.

• 42:01Tom Ellsworth?

  Adam.

• 42:01Speaker 03

  Well, Adam.

• 42:02Adam Sosnick?

  Guys, I gotta be honest with you. I think you're overblowing this big time.

• 42:06Speaker 03

  Really?

• 42:06Adam Sosnick?

  I think you're making much ado about nothing. Uh, you know who's loving this more than anybody right now? James Comey. Because here's a guy who nobody's thought of in years and all of a sudden he's the most relevant guy in politics, James Comey. So Trump doesn't like him now, but I remember one thing. In about 2016, a couple of weeks before the election, you know, hated him more than anybody? Hillary Clinton. Because a lot of people blame Trump winning and Hillary losing on one person. James Comey. Cause he came out there, I want to say 10 days before the election, talking about Hillary's emails, Hillary's emails, Hillary's emails came out there, needlessly did a press conference. He's like, alright guys, uh, we're not charging Hillary,

• 42:50Adam Sosnick?

  but damn, she's sloppy. 11 days before the presidential election. You could honestly, honestly say that James Comey helped Trump get elected. Much like the Hunter Biden laptop, New York Post hole varying the story, helped Biden get elected. So be careful what you wish for. I don't think anything's gonna happen. I don't think, listen. Two things can be true at once. I think James Comey is playing stupid. I don't know what 8647 means. I just saw it on the seashells. I have no clue. Although I'm the greatest sleuth in the world, FBI director, I don't know what that means.

• 43:26Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 43:26Adam Sosnick?

  Okay. But at the same time, I think he's playing dumb on all this.

• 43:30Speaker 03

  I think that, I think all of that stuff.

• 43:32Patrick Bet-David?

  All of that stuff that they talk about when they act, I saw Lena Habba, rock star on The View, and they were talking, they were going back and forth and saying 86 doesn't mean that. Have you looked at the dictionary, Sonny Hostin? It's just like, you know exactly what 86, 47 means. Like, don't act like you don't know. Well, what's the proof of it? Three assassination attempts.

• 43:49Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 43:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Hey, what else you want to say? By the way, the clip came up about this Cole Thomas Allen, Tomas Allen, I want to say the H isn't there. Cole Tomas Allen, Vinnie just showed me, Rob, do you want to show this clip? A couple of things, like, when you think about security, is this the one? Or, uh, zooms in, how the hell does this guy go in? And Vinnie says it, I'm gonna give credit to Vinnie, dog is following him, Vinnie.

• 44:12Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 44:12Patrick Bet-David?

  And you told me, and this is a real clip, the dog follows him in, the guy's with a shotgun, then watch what happens seconds later.

• 44:19Speaker 03

  That's a canine.

• 44:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Watch the top left corner.

• 44:21Speaker 03

  Pat, so the canine's in there, something's obviously hidden. Brother, that's why my brother does this for a living. My brother trains freaking canine dogs.

• 44:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Just watch.

• 44:28Speaker 03

  The dog is marked, like, something's happening, and then he's talking to the shooter.

• 44:32Patrick Bet-David?

  And then he walks away.

• 44:33Speaker 03

  And then he runs out with a shotgun.

• 44:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Comes up with a shotgun, look at this.

• 44:36Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, wow.

• 44:37Speaker 03

  Is that crazy?

• 44:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you go back 10 seconds? Go back 10 seconds, just watch this, go ahead, keep playing it.

• 44:45Speaker 03

  So the dog's in there, obviously something's up, the dog's on him, right there.

• 44:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Pause it right there and pause and see what everybody is looking at. So the two on the wall, they're looking to the left. The guy on the right, he's scoping around. The two cops are taking down the...

• 45:00Speaker 03

  Metal detector.

• 45:02Patrick Bet-David?

  The one in the top left with the blue, he's watching Instagram reels. The one on the bottom left, the one on the bottom left, the three cops.

• 45:09Tom Ellsworth?

  We'll be watching the BBD podcast.

• 45:10Patrick Bet-David?

  And so, keep it going, they're doing their jobs, but then watch what happens. Suddenly, they're all looking to the left. This is like just bad timing.

• 45:17Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 45:17Patrick Bet-David?

  You'll see, because that guy to the right starts looking to his left. Okay, so now he sees that person moving, and the timing, boom, and then the guy...

• 45:25Tom Ellsworth?

  Did he shoot him?

• 45:26Speaker 03

  He shot.

• 45:27Patrick Bet-David?

  And then they come out of the door, look at the top right door, opens up with two people coming in ready. She looks ready.

• 45:33Speaker 03

  She's ready to go.

• 45:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay? But it's like this.

• 45:36Speaker 03

  Wow, he's fast.

• 45:37Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, but you want to see something else here that was very interesting, I was watching last night? Back this up, back this up.

• 45:44Adam Sosnick?

  People are saying that law enforcement are covering something up, that the cop in the lower left actually shot and hit the cop above the metal detector in the chest on the bulletproof vest. He didn't hit the suspect. If you look down low, because watch what happens to the cop on the upper wall.

• 46:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, fast forward 10 seconds.

• 46:04Adam Sosnick?

  Slow, slow, slow.

• 46:05Speaker 03

  Yeah, go Robbie.

• 46:06Adam Sosnick?

  Watch the cop on the upper wall. The lower cop fires and the middle cop on the wall there drops like a sack of potatoes.

• 46:13Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah, in the middle on the top, behind the wall.

• 46:15Adam Sosnick?

  And this guy comes back, "Are you okay? You okay?" Uh, see?

• 46:18Speaker 03

  Shot him in the vest.

• 46:19Adam Sosnick?

  He hit him in the vest, he's trying to breathe.

• 46:21Speaker 03

  She, I think it's a she.

• 46:23Patrick Bet-David?

  You don't have to say sack of potatoes. He fell.

• 46:25Speaker 03

  She fell. I think it's a she, Pat.

• 46:26Patrick Bet-David?

  She fell because she got shot. Yeah, so playback speed here decreased. But when you think about, this is where people start questioning.

• 46:34Speaker 03

  The failure of security, bro.

• 46:35Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, but I, listen, I'm just gonna push back on this a little bit, because I've been in this building. Do you know how close he was to the president here when he ran here? He was on a different floor.

• 46:44Speaker 03

  No, you could hear the shooting.

• 46:46Adam Sosnick?

  You could hear it, of course, just like we heard a shooting half a block away. He was on a different floor. So this guy's plan was to run past screening, clearance, all these guns, go down the stairs. That's where allegedly Wolf Blitzer saw him and he had no shoe on or something like that. So as much as this guy had a plan, which was ridiculous, the fact that he even got gun in the building.

• 47:07Patrick Bet-David?

  You see him walk in the hallways, right, of the hotel?

• 47:08Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah. He wasn't anywhere close to the president.

• 47:10Speaker 03

  And there's a selfie too. But Adam, not even close to the president, but if you think about it, look how many people are around. A guy that's wearing all black, is carrying something, goes in a room, the dog is triggering on him.

• 47:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Look at this guy.

• 47:21Speaker 03

  That's him in his room, bro. He has guns and stuff.

• 47:22Patrick Bet-David?

  That's a high IQ walk right there. Look at that.

• 47:24Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, very educated.

• 47:25Patrick Bet-David?

  They're saying he has a very high IQ.

• 47:27Adam Sosnick?

  He took a selfie before?

• 47:28Speaker 03

  Oh yeah. Oh, by the way, this was all the setup. All the theorists out there, this is all fake. This isn't real, by the, oh yeah. Coming in the gym.

• 47:36Adam Sosnick?

  What do you mean it's not real?

• 47:37Speaker 03

  People were saying that this was staged. This is staged.

• 47:39Adam Sosnick?

  What was?

• 47:40Speaker 03

  This whole thing was staged, Adam.

• 47:42Adam Sosnick?

  I don't know, I'm not following what you're saying. What do you mean?

• 47:44Patrick Bet-David?

  There are people on social.

• 47:46Adam Sosnick?

  You already lost me. You already lost me.

• 47:49Patrick Bet-David?

  This was a setup. This is not real.

• 47:51Speaker 03

  Left and right.

• 47:52Patrick Bet-David?

  This was a staged.

• 47:53Speaker 03

  Event because he wants to build the ballroom. This, this guy, this Californian's guy, yeah.

• 47:59Patrick Bet-David?

  You know, you know, you know why?

• 48:00Speaker 03

  Already building the ballroom.

• 48:02Patrick Bet-David?

  So to me, a part of it is, a part of this, when you, when you look at this, is, you know, even when we have security, when we have security with us all the time, and I'll watch them, my guys, I'll watch them, and I'll say, like, if we go to a place, and when they're alert, they're alert, but when they're not, I'm like, what would I do? What would a bad guy do right now when they're not alert? You have plenty of time, if you think about it. You have plenty of time. The, the, the amount of alertness you need today, it's like immediate alertness. And the biggest distraction cops and Secret Service have today that they didn't have 20 years ago is what?

• 48:43Speaker 03

  Their phone.

• 48:44Patrick Bet-David?

  I go to church, honestly, I go to, every Sunday when we go to this church, won't say which one it is, when we go to this church, the same female cop is standing to the right, Vinnie, the entire time she just looks at her phone, and I say to myself, what, what purpose are you serving here? Nothing. Go home. I wanted to go to the pastor and say, fire this person, bring somebody else in, ask them to take their freaking phones away while they're working and you're paying them. Because they literally stand there and they're just like this, while there's, security on Sunday services coming in and out. And then what are you gonna happen? And you see the cameras. And I walk with Tico and Dylan, they're like, look at this, why are you even here?

• 49:28Patrick Bet-David?

  I want to go tell her and say, can I ask you a question, like, what are you doing here? What are you doing here? But I'm not the person that's paying them. So, sometimes, you know, with, with the distractions that we have, one funny moment with this whole thing is, this lady here asks him, would you be wearing a bulletproof vest?

• 49:43Speaker 03

  This is brilliant.

• 49:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, and, and Trump, of course.

• 49:45Speaker 03

  Comedian.

• 49:46Patrick Bet-David?

  His answer, he was ready. Go ahead, Tom.

• 49:49Speaker 12

  Is there talks about you potentially wearing a bulletproof vest moving forward, given you have now been shot at?

• 49:55Speaker 02

  I don't know if I can handle looking 20 pounds heavier.

• 50:00Adam Sosnick?

  That's good, man. That's self-deprecation. That's great. You gotta be honest. Everything's laughing.

• 50:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Vinny, he's kinda cute.

• 50:09Adam Sosnick?

  He's good.

• 50:09Patrick Bet-David?

  He's kinda cute.

• 50:10Adam Sosnick?

  By the way, I have to, I have to agree with you what you're saying on the cellphone thing. I mean, how many rules are we seeing established in schools? Kids gotta be off the cellphone, right? Dinners, we do dinners, cellphones off. You know, when, Shabbat dinner, if you ever do that, no cellphones, just being together. One thing that I agree with you is if you're working and you're protecting the president, get off Instagram, dude. Get off TikTok especially. Be in the moment. I think that's what you're saying.

• 50:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, that's exactly what I'm saying. Like, for instance, when we're at the office and we're, I'm doing meetings and they're sitting on the other side and doing their thing, I don't have a problem with that. But when we're out in premises, I want you alert.

• 50:50Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 50:51Patrick Bet-David?

  24/7 alert. No phones, nothing. And so, uh, I mean, it's not like they were looking at their phones there anyway. I'm not making any point with that. All I'm saying is there's a lot of distractions today and you have to be alert on everything that you're doing. You're in a hotel where the public's walking around at any point, anybody can do something. The dog walks in and the guy's pulling back. He's like, the dog is knowing something and then, but you haven't even seen the video before, he goes in with a bag.

• 51:16Adam Sosnick?

  Yes.

• 51:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Like, to hide that, you have to be in a bag. So he's in there, split second turns around and then comes out.

• 51:23Adam Sosnick?

  Boom.

• 51:23Patrick Bet-David?

  He walked in with a bag. What the hell you think is in a bag this big? Golf clubs?

• 51:26Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 51:27Patrick Bet-David?

  You know, it's-

• 51:28Adam Sosnick?

  Well, President plays golf.

• 51:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, yeah, exactly. Not this one.

• 51:32Adam Sosnick?

  Maybe it's a gift.

• 51:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, go up to the top clip, Rob. The bottom one, go one down, right there. See if it shows that he walks in first.

• 51:41Adam Sosnick?

  Look, he's carrying a bag. There's a gun. A shotgun.

• 51:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 51:44Adam Sosnick?

  A shotgun.

• 51:45Patrick Bet-David?

  And you don't think what's in there? Like, you don't think that sounds a little bit, looks a little bit? So, I don't know. I think, I think, you know, the president is a class act when he says they're doing their best, they're doing this, they're doing that. He needs to say that, the rest of the world needs to say, what the hell are you guys doing when it comes down to- Having a guy like that coming through and he's able to do what he's doing. So I don't know. I think, I think security measures need to always be ready. So this goes back to Comey. Hey Comey, you don't think that seashell 8647 is a big deal? You lose credibility when it happens at a moment like this. So by the way, the grand jury, the timing of it was perfect. The perfect timing grand jury. When do they do it? After the third attempt. Make the argument. Make the argument. Perfect timing on that.

• 52:29Patrick Bet-David?

  What do you think is gonna happen with Comey though? What do I think? Yeah, I don't think it's gonna happen. That book that you talked about, you know that book you talked about, he said they're gonna have to pay the money back for the book? How many copies do you think that book sold? Way more since he found that 8647 thing. Twenty thousand copies. That's it. His memoir sold six, seven hundred thousand copies. Oh, really? That's a horrible book. That book only sold 20,000 copies. Good for him. Even with 8647, nobody cared to read this book. Wow. Okay, nobody cared to read this book. You would think the director of FBI, who is that famous, after 8647, the book would have done more than 20,000 copies. Go pull it up. 20,000 to 60,000 copies. It was the least performing book. So it's like, it's not like they're gonna collect that much money back. Go ahead and pull up the sales.

• 53:13Patrick Bet-David?

  It's a couple hundred thousand dollars. It didn't change his life. Uh, but those types of behavior had impacts. What do I think is gonna happen to him? Probably not much. Not much is gonna happen to him, but I do think even this, as they go through, do I think there's a 20% chance of having something that he has to do? I think there is. And I like that. I like the 20%. Community service, having to go pick up trash on the beach. Collect all the seashells on the beach. Exactly. I like that. Let's get to the next story. Next story here is, again, accountability, since we're on the topic of accountability. Fauci's business partner, Rob. What page is that story with Fauci's business partner? I don't believe it's in the prep. I'll grab you this. Do you wanna pull that up? Cause we just talked about it a couple of days ago. David, David Morens, Pat. He's a former senior advisor to Mr. Fauci.

• 53:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, so this comes out. Pressure under DOJ to prosecute Anthony Fauci grown after advisor indicted with days left to charge COVID lies. If you go a little bit long, read this. The indictment of Dr. Anthony Fauci's former advisor David Morris Tuesday revived calls for the Justice Department to prosecute Fauci himself for allegedly lying to Congress about funding risky research in China before COVID-19. Just two weeks remain before the five-year deal legal deadline on May 11 to indict Fauci for denying under oath that he funded gain-of-function experiments that modified bat coronavirus in the same city where the pandemic started. Morris, 78 years old, was charged with one count of conspiracy, two counts of destruction, alteration, or falsification of records in federal investigation,

• 54:41Patrick Bet-David?

  and two counts of concealment, removal, or mutilation of records relating to the origins of COVID-19. He faces up to 51 years in prison. 51 years in prison. Vinny?

• 54:55Speaker 03

  And again, giving credit when you said, "Don't give up hope." Todd Blanch is in and all these things are happening, Pat. By the way, so he served from 2006 to 2022. That's pretty freaking long. So what he's accused of: hiding and altering records during federal investigations at the COVID-19. And there's a bunch of emails, Rob, there's some screenshots of what they're actually doing. Suppressed alternative theories about how the pandemic started. When you hear that, when you hear these people, these are the senior advisors to everything COVID. Tom, if you're suppressing the alternate theories, you know what you're trying to do? You're trying to cover up that this thing came out of a lab that we own, that they're running in freaking Wuhan, China. Okay, so then when

• 55:37Speaker 03

  people like me say, "You know what? I think this thing might have been planned. I think this thing might have been a leak for them to destroy the presidency." Because I don't care who's in charge, Tom. If a pandemic hits during your presidency, you're not going to win the reelection. Period. End of story. Okay, and I love that you said that, Pat. His charges are conspiracy against the United States. Full stop. They conspired. Destruction, alteration, and falsification of records, concealment or removal of records, and aiding and abetting. Okay, and then this is, Bob, the alleged indictment? His co-conspirators deliberately concealed all the information, Pat. And what's beautiful about this, what's beautiful? Rand Paul laid it out perfectly. He said Fauci lied to Congress felony.

• 56:22Speaker 03

  Destroyed federal records felony. Advising others to destroy federal records is a felony? Fauci did all three, okay? And if his advisor is indicted, that means he should be going down. Because May 11th, Pat, is a five-year statute of limitation deadline for Fauci. Even though Fauci, and this is how Trump is playing it beautifully with the timing. And nobody's been talking about the auto pen that he reversed. His May 11th is the deadline, but Fauci is pardoned. He might, this is where Trump is gonna go, by the way, they're all null and void. Get him, indict him, and that's-

• 56:56Patrick Bet-David?

  After May 11th.

• 56:57Speaker 03

  After May, well, it has to happen before May 11th.

• 56:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Happen before May 11th.

• 57:00Speaker 03

  It has to happen, the deadlines-

• 57:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Or else it's gone.

• 57:02Speaker 03

  Or else it's gone.

• 57:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 57:03Speaker 03

  But I'm telling you right now, I don't want anything for my birthday. I don't want anything for Christmas. I don't want any gifts ever. I want this guy, because I think Dr. Fauci, Tony Fauci, is in charge, is responsible, Pat. For the millions of people that are gone, that have died, that lost their grandparents, that couldn't go to funerals, that couldn't see their loved ones dying in front of them. All the stuff that they put us through. The turbo cancer that's happening right now that's exploding. The young children on this, in this freaking country that have myocarditis because of the decisions on purpose because of him, there has to be accountability. And he's the one, he's the head of the snake, and it has to be him, Pat. And I pray that it happens.

• 57:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, what was that email you just pulled up a minute ago? From 2021?

• 57:47Tom Ellsworth?

  This is from David Morens, where he wrote, and I'll read it this way.

• 57:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Go ahead, Tom.

• 57:51Tom Ellsworth?

  "You are right, I need to be more careful." So he wrote this to someone. "However, have I mentioned before? I learned from our Freedom of Information Act lady here." So someone that was in their office that counseled them on that.

• 58:04Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 58:04Tom Ellsworth?

  "How to make emails disappear after I am voided."

• 58:08Patrick Bet-David?

  What a moron.

• 58:09Tom Ellsworth?

  Now-

• 58:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Thank you for being a moron.

• 58:12Tom Ellsworth?

  After I am FOIA'd, what FOIA'd mean is after I am served with the Freedom of Information Act disclosure, but before the search starts, so I think we're safe. Wow. Plus, I deleted most of those emails after sending them to Gmail. Oh my goodness. So the FBI could say, "Get his Gmail account, call Google, subpoena the whole thing." Have them just send the whole cloud index over here. This clearly shows the conspiracy and the destruction of records and the rerouting. Now, to suppress alternative, you know, theories, Vinny, that's not the crime. And I really don't care about that because there could be 20 theories about how a medication works or doesn't work, and the theories are in research.

• 58:55Tom Ellsworth?

  What I love is the conspiracy to... And I was waiting for them to use the obstruction of justice. Where's the obstruction of justice clause? But destroying records, rerouting, and then this smoking gun here, this is great. I'm just glad this guy, if he's convicted, is going to be in prison until his 129th birthday because that's 51 years from today.

• 59:17Speaker 03

  But Tommy, do you feel where I'm coming from? If you are actively, if you're in charge of this whole thing, you're the head of NIH and all these people...

• 59:23Tom Ellsworth?

  No, I'm with you 1,000%. I just don't care about all of the headlines are trying to say suppressing theories. I love the fact that destruction, rerouting, all of these things, they're catching all of the felony things of the actual acts.

• 59:36Speaker 03

  Yeah, but Tommy, when they're altering and he's lying about the origins, you know what that's making people do? "Oh, it came from a bat." That makes everybody look over here, Tommy, when we were saying, "Wait a minute. This came out of a lab that we paid, that we started under Obama." So the fact that they were doing that, Tom, makes me think, "Oh, then you guys might be in on it." This, Tom, think about it. This virus leaked in a country that we were basically at war with. Trump was holding China accountable for trade, and when they couldn't fight us on the battlefield, you know what they do, Tom? "Oh, this leaked." This came out of a lab and it destroyed the world. And when people go, "You think China? You think Xi Jinping?" Yes, I do, because I'm a Christian and I believe that evil. Ephesians, Chapter 6, Verse 12. It's not flesh and blood. It's evil, and these are what these people...

• 1:00:21Tom Ellsworth?

  I'm as revved up as you are, but I can't prove what he knew or didn't know. But I love the fact that there's several counts here talking about what he destroyed and didn't destroy. And that email there. So you look at what he was doing and, and I can't prove that he was dirty on that. I suspect it. I think it. There's allegations up the wazoo, all the way to Wuhan. But guess what? That's the hard path to prove. But why are you destroying all this? So you find him guilty of the destruction, find him guilty of the obstruction, find him guilty of, of redirecting. And then find him guilty of his own fricking smoking gun with his own. Then guess what? All of that? Why was he doing it? Well, the answer was, he was covering up all this. He was covering up all that.

• 1:01:07Tom Ellsworth?

  But guess what? This proves that. But this hopefully incarcerates this guy for a long time. And then you don't have to go through the longer path of what did he know and when did he know it? Which is a really difficult legal test.

• 1:01:20Adam Sosnick?

  Adam, I believe that we need accountability for sure. And the number one entity or person or thing that needs accountability, it ain't Fauci, it's China. How quickly did we forget about that this started with the Wuhan lab? The Wuhan flu? Like, I get that we're dealing with tariffs. I get we're getting with asymmetrical warfare. We got, you know, a cold war going on with China. We have debates to vet tariffs. What's going on? Listen, I get that why people are mad with Fauci. I get it. But I don't wake up every day thinking about Fauci. I do wake up every day thinking about America's well being in the world. And our global hegemony and who's coming after us? China? And what has China done to be found accountable?

• 1:02:01Adam Sosnick?

  You know, the whole, remember that whole situation when, uh, Jon Stewart went on Colbert and he's like, you mean to tell me that it was a pangolin mixed with a penguin? And that he's like, or, it could have been the Wuhan lab that caused the Wuhan flu. So the, the biggest thing that I think that happened with Fauci and, and everything with the vaccine is it, it made vaccines and science and health political. It shouldn't be that political. Like, I'll come out and say this. I think vaccines are good. Smallpox, polio, measles, mumps, rubella, whatever it is. It's the rush of the vaccine. Trump, it's the forced mandate of vaccine that people have a problem with. And what you have a problem with is the lying.

• 1:02:43Adam Sosnick?

  And it's the hundred percent effective, 92% effective, 90% effective. Eh, we don't even know, but go get a booster. By the way, did anybody get their 78th booster this month? So it's so, it's, it's convenient that we don't even talk about that anymore. But I, I agree with you, but don't you think the criminal part? I don't know. I, I don't know. I, I, I don't have a vendetta against Fauci. I'm no fan of Fauci, but I think the emphasis needs to be on China. How much you want to bet this 85 year old guy won't spend one day in jail? I don't think he's going to jail. China in jail. No, but you're talking about Fauci. You want to see accountability.

• 1:03:22Speaker 03

  A hundred percent.

• 1:03:23Adam Sosnick?

  I don't think he's going to go to jail. He's 85 years old. By the time they go to trial, he's 87, he's 90, he's going to die by the time he has even sentenced.

• 1:03:30Speaker 03

  Adam, but think about this guy was embedded. When you talk about the deep state, he's been around for how many presidents?

• 1:03:35Adam Sosnick?

  He started with HIV in like the eighties, nineties.

• 1:03:38Speaker 03

  Have you read the real Dr. Fauci, the book? Adam, this guy is, to my opinion, is actually evil.

• 1:03:45Adam Sosnick?

  Then why did every administration, Republican and Democrat, keep him around?

• 1:03:48Speaker 03

  Adam, because they're all, what do you mean? They're all, he's, he's Dr. Fauci. He's the trustworthy guy. You don't know what he's doing behind closed doors. And by the way, this is a leaked audio, Pat, talking about requiring every company to mandate vacs. But by the way, Adam, this is all business.

• 1:04:01Adam Sosnick?

  I'm no fan of mandates.

• 1:04:02Speaker 03

  Follow the money. Because you said vaccines are good. Adam, if I got it, I swear to you, I'd be dead.

• 1:04:07Adam Sosnick?

  I didn't say the COVID vaccine.

• 1:04:08Speaker 03

  I'd be dead because of my heart.

• 1:04:09Adam Sosnick?

  Vaccines in general.

• 1:04:09Speaker 03

  Can you play this, Rob? This is Fauci getting caught.

• 1:04:12Adam Sosnick?

  Vaccines are a good thing?

• 1:04:13Speaker 03

  Listen to what Fauci says here.

• 1:04:15Speaker 13

  Interview that you gave as part of an audio book written by Michael Specter. That you believed an institutional should make it hard for people to, to live their lives so they'd feel pressured to get vaccinated. Could we read, run the audio clip on that, please?

• 1:04:31Speaker 00

  You think can be done about it? I have to say that I don't see a big solution.

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• 1:05:41Adam Sosnick?

  Once people feel empowered and protected legally, you are going to have schools, universities, and colleges are going to say, you want to come to this college, buddy? You're going to get vaccinated. Lady, you're going to get vaccinated. Big corporations like Amazon and Facebook and all of those others are going to say, you want to work for us, you get vaccinated. And it's been proven that when you make it difficult for people in their lives, they lose their ideological bullshit.

• 1:06:12Speaker 03

  Look at that. Look at that. Look, okay, by the way, and Adam, you want to talk about rushed? When you're the president and a pandemic hits coming from China with that guy behind the helm, and they're in your ear going, Mr. President, we got to rush it, rush it, rush it, because they're all in bed with all these vaccine companies with Pfizer and everybody, then it gets rushed out, Adam, and everybody's dying. Everybody has cancer. Everybody's kids have. You gotta pump the brakes on everybody's dying. You know what I mean? But Adam, Adam, Adam, Adam, hold on, I'm being. There are, well, I'm just, I'm being literal. Hold on, ready for this? Okay, let me, let me rephrase it. Millions of people, millions of kids that, guess what? Parents, brainwashed parents.

• 1:06:52Patrick Bet-David?

  I would tell you, I would tell you, I'll tell you this from my standpoint. One of the things for me that was in my top 10 list is Fauci being held accountable. It was in my top 10 list because that, Adam, when you have kids, you'll, you'll know what happens to them when, I clearly remember, you know this picture here? You know this picture here? Of course. This picture of my son. You'll dig him. It's our favorite picture ever. Jennifer took this picture. We were not even looking at him. Looking at her. This picture is a COVID picture. This is when they did what they did with schools, with kids, not having a place to go. Came to the office, ended up being the best thing because he was with me at the office every single day for 90 days.

• 1:07:37Patrick Bet-David?

  I became their teacher on a daily basis. Dylan was shooting shots. He had to make 52 shots a day. They had to swim 25 laps a day. They had to read a book. They had to watch a documentary every day for an hour and they had to write a paper on it. It was every day. I was, I was their teacher for 90 days. It was an incredible experience. But we have the luxury to be able to do that. A lot of people didn't. This guy did that. Fauci did that. And if they're writing emails like that, and I read Anthony Fauci's book by Bobby Kennedy. The real Dr. Fauci. Which, by the way, unlike James Comey's book, if you go to that one, which was published by, I want to say the. Skyhorse Publishing. Skyhorse Publishing. If you go to, look at the number of reviews. Go to it. Look at the number of reviews.

• 1:08:17Patrick Bet-David?

  27, till today, it's still a number one bestseller in virology. And we're talking about how many years ago when he wrote this book? Till today, and by the way, the Cliff Notes at the end, I don't know how many pages on what this guy did with the drug, I think it's called AZT, that was tied to AIDS, on how they abused it, they kept it at a cost of $5,000 or $10,000 when they didn't need to. Yeah, that's a, this guy's been a part of so much shit the last 40 years. That's unbelievable. So guess what? If, if, if I'm, I'm telling you right now, if they do something by May 11th to Fauci, there is a massive community of libertarians, forget Republicans, massive community of libertarians.

• 1:09:04Patrick Bet-David?

  And those who were impacted by the vaccine that have been begging for this, they've literally been begging for this. There are millions of Americans that voted for Trump with the hopes of him getting to the bottom of this. Okay, so God willing by 11th, if they do it, if they do it by May 11th, my ideal situation is by June 14th, a lot of things are scored away. Iran is scored away, you know, a couple of these announcements are being made, then they go into the World Cup, then after the World Cup, everybody moves on, things get better, then a new guy comes in, Powell, although he doesn't want to get out, they're gonna find a way to lower rates, gas prices go a little bit lower going into the midterms,

• 1:09:46Patrick Bet-David?

  they already picked up the 12 seats that they're doing a plus minus, which we're talking about the the redistricting thing that came out, but Fauci is at the top of the list for a lot of people in America. I hope they pursue this. And I can't wait to see a, you know what I want to see, Vinnie?

• 1:10:01Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 1:10:01Patrick Bet-David?

  And I wonder what kind of jurisdiction they have even with the pardon, because I think I think Fauci was pardoned.

• 1:10:06Speaker 03

  He was pardoned.

• 1:10:07Patrick Bet-David?

  So that means I want to know how he's protected, what Tom, what level of protection does a pardon have for them going after this for Fauci?

• 1:10:16Speaker 03

  For Fauci, I believe.

• 1:10:17Tom Ellsworth?

  I'll tell you, all of us hate the answer, and the answer is complete. Unless, that's why the auto pen headlines were out there so strongly, that if someone that was not the president went in and manipulated the pardon list and used the auto pen, Pat, so all you have to do is prove, did that come through the auto pen? Yes. Who did it? Well, this guy, Anthony Blinken did. I'm just, I'm not saying he did, I'm just saying allegedly, Anthony Blinken did. And if we prove that Blinken had no authority and that Biden had no intention or direction, intention or direction to pardon Fauci, then you can pull the pardon back. But do you hear the steps in there? It's a long way, Pat, it's a lot of steps. Right now, Anthony Fauci carries a pardon.

• 1:11:01Speaker 03

  But but federal pardons, Tom, protects him from federal charges, states can still prosecute if there's a valid state level case to bring. So there's still hope, and that's why when he reversed the auto pen, Tom, Donald Trump came out and administered Said they're all null and void. Remember that? And it kinda just went under the radar and we all moved on. This would be so amazing, Pat. Because of the, because of all the lying, the six feet social distancing, every, they lied about everything. The, the effectiveness of the vaccine to where it came from, everything. No, Adam, and I, and I, I know what you were saying is, oh, I said, everybody. Millions and millions of people are affected, were affected, are still gonna be affected, children. By the way, Pat, I was gonna tell people this too. You go, God forbid, something happens to you and you have to get a blood transfusion.

• 1:11:44Speaker 03

  You think they're gonna stop and give you the non-vaccinated blood? They're giving you whatever that, you understand like the level of that? And I'm telling you right now, if that's affecting people with myocardial.

• 1:11:53Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, I'm not, I'm not a legal expert, but we're real, I read a, I read an article once and it really pissed me off. Really pissed me off because it said, pick a state like Nebraska, goes all the way to the mat and they prosecute Fauci. Then they appeal it, appeal it, appeal it, appeal it. Where do you end up? You end up at the Supreme Court and the Supreme Court has asked a question. Was this man already pardoned for this? And therefore, does the state charge carry weight? And it's like, now you put it in the hands of the Supreme Court to say, did he or didn't he? And it's just, it's just a mess. And meanwhile, he's not in jail. He's.

• 1:12:23Speaker 03

  He's walking around, remember he had Secret Service protection.

• 1:12:26Tom Ellsworth?

  You can't hit his reputation any harder than Bobby Kennedy.

• 1:12:29Adam Sosnick?

  If what he's saying is accurate and then nobody can go after Fauci and he's basically been pardoned, who's next on that list? Cause as much as we think Fauci had the power, there's other people that are making rules, regulations, mandates and all the vaccines like. So I'm wondering what's downstream from here. Who would it be? If he's pardoned, what are we?

• 1:12:46Speaker 03

  Well, David Moret, David Morens, this is a senior advisor. He's just been indicted with 50 years. And, and Adam, they're gonna keep going. They're gonna keep searching, but I mean.

• 1:12:54Tom Ellsworth?

  Was Morens on the pardon list?

• 1:12:56Speaker 03

  No, no, he was not on the pardon list, but, but Adam, like, yeah, this guy, he has to be held accountable, bro. He has to be.

• 1:13:03Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, it sounds like they're trying to.

• 1:13:05Speaker 03

  I hope to God it happens.

• 1:13:06Patrick Bet-David?

  We'll see, we'll see what happens. Let me get to this next story. So Spencer.

• 1:13:11Speaker 03

  Pratt?

• 1:13:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Pratt, who's running for mayor of LA, dude, this guy just dropped a bomb.

• 1:13:16Speaker 03

  I love it.

• 1:13:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Of an ad. And then wait till you see this clip of Karen Bass, how she's being treated by people in LA while she's in a car. Trying to talk. That, that clip excites me more than this one, but here's Spencer Pratt. Dropping one of the greatest campaign ads of all time. Go ahead, Rob.

• 1:13:31Speaker 16

  This is where Mayor Bass lives. You notice something? Or here, where Nithya Ramon's $3 million mansion sits. They don't have to live in the mess they've created, where you live.

• 1:13:44Speaker 16

  This is where I live. They let my home burn down. I know what the consequences of failed leadership are. That's why I'm running for mayor. For my sons and the rest of us Angelinos that want to stop these corrupt politicians from destroying our city. We're gonna get the golden age of Los Angeles back.

• 1:14:01Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, Jeanie Buss, Los Angeles Lakers, allegedly, if you want to pull this up, just gave him $10 million for his campaign. $10 million. Okay, if you go look up-

• 1:14:11Tom Ellsworth?

  That's gonna fund that campaign, man. Are you kidding me? $10 million bucks for a real rate?

• 1:14:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you have that story, Rob? Can you just verify what I'm saying? I thought I was, go a little bit lower to see if there's a $10 million story. Story was going viral about her giving $10 million bucks. And then, another thing with Spencer Pratt, Rob, if you can go back to where you were at, is, if you can go back to where you were at, on top of that, on Kalshi, you just had a Kalshi thing with him for mayor, right?

• 1:14:38Tom Ellsworth?

  There's a Kalshi on that.

• 1:14:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, if you look at this, a Kalshi for mayor of LA, and watch what happened to him after he dropped this clip, look what happens to him. Which color is he?

• 1:14:49Tom Ellsworth?

  Just go to one week, Rob.

• 1:14:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Is he blue, Rob? Can you go to one week?

• 1:14:52Tom Ellsworth?

  He's blue, yes, Pat.

• 1:14:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Go, instead of 30 days, go to one week. Is that it?

• 1:14:55Tom Ellsworth?

  Yep.

• 1:14:55Patrick Bet-David?

  He's blue. Boom. He bumped up from April 24th, he was, April 20, go to April 24th, where was he at April 24th, 15? And now he's at what? Go to today? Boom, 25%. So, Nithya Ramani's at 52.6. Karen Bass drops from being at 30 to being below 15 now.

• 1:15:13Tom Ellsworth?

  She's dead. Even the Democrats-

• 1:15:15Patrick Bet-David?

  No, physically, she's alive, Tom. She's alive. I know a lot of people are worried about her age.

• 1:15:19Tom Ellsworth?

  Her chances on life support is what I'm sorry, I mean-

• 1:15:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:15:21Tom Ellsworth?

  Her campaign-

• 1:15:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Stack of sandbags.

• 1:15:23Tom Ellsworth?

  As they say, her campaign is in deep trouble.

• 1:15:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:15:27Tom Ellsworth?

  Even the Democrats aren't supporting her because she's so, she is so-

• 1:15:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Too much potatoes.

• 1:15:32Tom Ellsworth?

  So much baggage for the fires.

• 1:15:34Patrick Bet-David?

  But here's Karen Bass, here's Karen Bass, out there, asking for support in this beautiful car, and look how folks from LA are talking to Karen Bass. Go ahead, Rob.

• 1:15:44Speaker 02

  Express our support for Chinatown.

• 1:15:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes, we support China. We don't support Karen Bass. Thank you. She's cut services.

• 1:15:53Tom Ellsworth?

  Boo!

• 1:15:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Haha, who can't get rid of that? Oh my god.

• 1:15:59Speaker 16

  Oh, that one guy there, he, I think he was saying she's number one.

• 1:16:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Spencer running as a Democrat?

• 1:16:06Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't think Spencer's running. And when it comes on to mayoral races,

• 1:16:11Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't know if they do Republican or Democrat. They may, if you want to pull it up, if he's running out a Democrat as a Republican. Uh, I'm speculating, he's probably gonna be a conservative himself.

• 1:16:22Speaker 16

  Well, big cities do, I was actually just talking to-

• 1:16:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, Republican.

• 1:16:26Speaker 16

  Yeah, big cities do, obviously, uh-

• 1:16:28Patrick Bet-David?

  And let me do this, and I'll come to you, Rob. There's another clip where she was caught in shocking recording just days before the Palisades fight, uh, fire. If you want to play this clip, watch this clip here. Go ahead, Rob.

• 1:16:42Speaker 17

  The situation is very dangerous, and I would never do, I will take the criticism before I do a publicity stunt. And frankly, a press conference at this point in time would just be publicity.

• 1:16:57Speaker 16

  I think, I think the neighbors, the property owners, and the residents, I mean, 41,000 people live within a square mile here.

• 1:17:06Speaker 17

  Yeah.

• 1:17:07Speaker 16

  Two families share a one-bedroom apartment.

• 1:17:09Speaker 17

  But, but they want to hear that something is gonna be done.

• 1:17:12Speaker 16

  They want to know it's recognized. That you want to know it's recognized.

• 1:17:16Speaker 17

  Exactly, but if I have a choice between that and compromising something, I just have to go along with it. It's not my area of expertise. I want to make sure that you are safe.

• 1:17:31Speaker 17

  And hopefully you can read in between the lines. But I would just appreciate, just, and it's hard for me to tell you this.

• 1:17:40Speaker 16

  It's hard.

• 1:17:41Speaker 17

  But, um, hold tight. You will, you will understand soon.

• 1:17:46Speaker 03

  Joe, that, that's, you know what that is? That's somebody saying that they know something, but they don't want to say it out loud.

• 1:17:52Speaker 16

  By the way, what was it? Vinnie, you lived in LA. What was it? What are, what are the hot winds called?

• 1:17:57Speaker 03

  I don't know, I don't know the name of them.

• 1:17:58Tom Ellsworth?

  The Santa Anas.

• 1:17:59Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 1:17:59Tom Ellsworth?

  The weather report will say, here come the Santa Anas.

• 1:18:02Speaker 03

  Santa Ana, buddy.

• 1:18:02Tom Ellsworth?

  And those are.

• 1:18:03Patrick Bet-David?

  I didn't, did you even live in LA?

• 1:18:05Speaker 03

  Santa Anas.

• 1:18:06Tom Ellsworth?

  No, they're called.

• 1:18:06Patrick Bet-David?

  You didn't manufacture the fire at this point.

• 1:18:08Tom Ellsworth?

  Anybody, anybody can Google it. It's called the Santa Anas. She had received a briefing that said the Santa Ana winds are going to kick up and they could be as high as 100 miles an hour at the bottom of canyons where all the winds come together. They warned her and she got on a plane and went to wherever, Ghana. And you can hear that. She's saying, read between the lines, be safe. It's because the fires hadn't started, but people told her, hey, man, we have fire season here and this is really kind of crazy. There it is. The Santa Ana winds, referred to as the devil winds are extremely high winds. They come in with a high pressure mass and guess what? All you need is a little spark.

• 1:18:46Speaker 03

  I get so nervous with Tom's trivia. Tom will be like, and George Washington went to this place and he was wearing what size shoe, Vinny? And I'm like, I don't know.

• 1:18:54Tom Ellsworth?

  Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

• 1:18:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Now, here's a math question for you.

• 1:18:57Tom Ellsworth?

  For the sake, for the sake of clarity, I did not see George Washington when he did that.

• 1:19:01Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:19:02Tom Ellsworth?

  I was in the restroom.

• 1:19:03Speaker 03

  Okay, got you. But by the way, she's talking on the phone with John Al, A L L E. He's a property manager who works for Palisade, Pacific Palisades, Westlake, Pat, at MacArthur Park. And obviously, he recorded it on purpose, but while this is all building, she's not even, she left the country. And remember at the airport, Pat, she's at the gate and somebody's like, people said that you knew beforehand and you were just, you still went? And she's just looking at the ground for five minutes because she can't talk. It's ridiculous. And then you have Gavin Newsom coming out, standing in the middle of burning rubble. People's houses are destroyed. People are dead. And he's like.

• 1:19:35Tom Ellsworth?

  Talking to a lady. I gotta call lady. I gotta call.

• 1:19:37Speaker 03

  Yeah, I gotta call. But the other one was like, yeah, I've been talking to Josh Green and talking about some land grabbing and he's, he's excited about people coming to grab land from all these fucking people.

• 1:19:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Spencer Pratt is creating momentum. He's making noise. A lot of, uh, uh, uh, folks in LA are paying attention to him and God willing, he gets more and more momentum as he's going in this race. Adam, your thoughts on this?

• 1:19:59Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah. Uh, what I gotta give credit to Spencer Pratt for reinventing himself. We talk about reinventing yourself all the time. I remember when it's, someone I think pitched like, hey, do you want to have Spencer Pratt on the podcast? I was like.

• 1:20:10Adam Sosnick?

  The reality guy from the 2000s are like, oh, you haven't seen what he's up to these days? Dude, he's running for mayor. I'm like, as a joke? They're like, no, he's for real. And we've been looking into it and he is for real. You know who the joke is? This Karen Bass lady. So kudos to you. I'm not sure. You know, I don't, you know, my whole thoughts on California, Los Angeles. I think that's a fallen city, just like New York. Miami's the future. Texas is the future. LA looks cooked, literally half the city burnt down allegedly. But I gotta give him major credit for reinventing himself and I gotta tell you, kind of rooting for the guy. That ad was badass.

• 1:20:45Speaker 03

  Yup.

• 1:20:46Adam Sosnick?

  Good for him. And he has three things going for him. He has the personality. He knows what he is. He knows, he knows how to work a camera. Right? He has policies, it seems, because all you have to do is just be anti Marxist, anti woke, anti LGBTQ, A, B, D, B, C, and just be normal. And he has the biggest decider. You know what he has? Purpose. His house burnt down and he's living in a van down by the river.

• 1:21:13Speaker 03

  Down by the Palisades.

• 1:21:14Adam Sosnick?

  There it is. And we all know those Santa Ana winds, Vinny. You know about that. And I can't help but rooting for the guy. So good luck to him.

• 1:21:21Speaker 03

  And but I, but I hope people like, I hope Californians like are starting to see like,

• 1:21:26Adam Sosnick?

  Angelinos.

• 1:21:27Speaker 03

  Angelinos, don't keep falling for the Democrat, whatever. This guy actually was affected.

• 1:21:31Adam Sosnick?

  You mean, don't think, when's the last time you think there was a Republican mayor in LA?

• 1:21:36Speaker 03

  I don't, I don't remember.

• 1:21:38Adam Sosnick?

  Richard Rorden? 1849, the 49er gold, I'm just kidding. 2000, it's been 26 years.

• 1:21:45Speaker 03

  But here's my, here's my thing though.

• 1:21:46Adam Sosnick?

  Republican mayor in LA.

• 1:21:48Speaker 03

  Adam, here's your chance. Here's your chance. And I know with governor, it's probably not gonna happen, but like you keep voting for trash. You're going to get trash.

• 1:21:57Adam Sosnick?

  Time to recycle that.

• 1:21:58Speaker 03

  Yeah. What are they like? This is your opportunity to freaking like, start bucking the system a little bit. Get somebody in there that actually gives a damn. Like they actually give a damn about what the hell is going on.

• 1:22:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Is he still married to the Heidi girl? By the way, there was a story going viral that Jeannie Buss gave 10 million. Is that not true, Ben? I'm trying to find this 10 million because it was in our text, uh, community as well. I don't think it's 10 million. I think she gave max, the max you can. She donated 1800. 1800, which is a max. 1800, 10 million. It's a big difference. But it may have been. Where did that 10 million thing come from? It's probably because she sold the business for 10 billion dollars because the Lakers sold for 10 billion. So I don't know how. So she did not give him that money? No, it was on a community text. So to correct it, it's 1800 bucks Jeannie Buss. Thank you for correcting. Gave to it. Uh, let's continue. But watch this with LA. This leads to two stories I want to do with California LA because we, we love that place so much. Here's one of them.

• 1:22:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Leaving California makes homeownership 48% more likely. What? So you live in California, you don't own a home. If you leave California, you increase the likelihood of you being a homeowner by 48%? Yes. Rob, go ahead.

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• 1:24:07Speaker 18

  This morning, a new study finds that Californians who leave the state are 48% more likely to own a home within seven years compared to those who stay. This is according to research from the UC Policy Lab.

• 1:24:19Patrick Bet-David?

  You know what a UC Policy Lab is? UC Berkeley.

• 1:24:22Adam Sosnick?

  Very liberal.

• 1:24:23Speaker 19

  Yeah. They want to be able to buy a home. They want to be able to raise their kids in something more than an apartment.

• 1:24:28Speaker 18

  The study says lawmakers should focus on affordability and restoring California's appeal to current residents and potential newcomers.

• 1:24:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, renters relocating out of California saw rent lower by 30%, which is $631 a month in their new neighborhood. Homeowners also find more affordable pricing for the median home, which costs $396,000, or 48% less than median where they lived in LA. The dynamic helps homeownership more common in their new neighborhood with 60% owning their homes versus 53% in the California neighborhoods they departed. So Tom, how do you react to this story? Why is this such a big deal?

• 1:25:04Tom Ellsworth?

  I think it's a big deal because, you know, Adam's been out to California, he's got friends in California, so he's got some visibility there, but we've all lived there. All the residents have lived there. And what is going on here is it's insane. Even UC Berkeley runs a study, and what was funny about the study, there was a comment that was in the study, is making California more appealing to current residents, I think was the statement that was there.

• 1:25:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:25:31Tom Ellsworth?

  So wait a minute, those of you thinking about leaving, please don't leave, let's make it more appealing for you to stay.

• 1:25:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, exactly.

• 1:25:36Tom Ellsworth?

  Don't bail, don't bail. And what we're seeing here is the truth of bad policy. Bad policy that's destroyed the economy, bad policy that's led to ridiculous homeowners' insurance costs, bad policies that have led to shortages of insurance carriers, so that you can't even get insurance coverage, you have to get like this crippled coverage, you know, called the fair plan. And the bad policies that have led to, you know, companies leaving. Then voters running amok, being driven by unions, and Gavin Newsom, who's now running from responsibility because he allegedly was right there with SEIU unions on this, the billionaire tax, even though now he's trying to move back on it because it looks bad,

• 1:26:20Tom Ellsworth?

  muddy, and there's gonna get muddy on his white shirt while he's on camera trying to run for president. That's not gonna work. And so, what I see, Pat, this is just the outcome. You put all of the bad decisions and the lack of leadership into a bowl, you mix it, you put it in the oven, and this is the cake it bakes. People that are leaving, and how bad is it? You're actually more likely to be able to get a home for your family, a permanent residence. Forty-eight percent more likely after you leave? That's how bad it is.

• 1:26:57Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, well, one thing we know about real estate, location, location, location. And everybody wants to live in the greatest cities in the world, New York, LA, except those are no longer the greatest cities anymore. That's why people are coming to Miami. I think when it comes to housing, you're supposed to spend up to thirty percent of your gross income on housing, on rent, on your mortgage. I want to say Angelenos, Californians specifically, are spending upwards of a hundred percent of their total take-home pay on rent, meaning like they're working just to pay rent.

• 1:27:30Patrick Bet-David?

  How they eating.

• 1:27:31Adam Sosnick?

  Exactly, that's why the homeless problem is so pervasive in LA. So, location, location, location. A lot of people are looking at how much it costs to pay rent in LA and they're going, yeah, instead of living in LA, I'm gonna go to a different loss and I'm gonna go to Las Vegas. And that's why so many people are moving to Nevada. Pat, there was a second story you want to talk about with Nevada, I believe, right?

• 1:27:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Which one is that?

• 1:27:54Adam Sosnick?

  This was the Californians are fleeing to Nevada for affordability. There's that word again. Forget Texas, forget Florida, the real winner of California's greatest exodus is the state right next door. Californians are quietly moving to Nevada, the top destination, fed up with sky-high costs, pulling in more former residents per capita than any other state over the past decade. Okay? For every 10,000 Nevada residents, roughly 81 more Californians arrived and departed each year from 2016 to 2025. The math is especially brutal for Sacramento and clarifying for everyone else.

• 1:28:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I mean, look, a lot of friends that I have are moving from California to Nevada. It's right there down the street, three and a half hour drive. You don't have to, like, you can still come and visit your family. Some who make the full move, they'll go to Texas, and then a few who make the full move, they'll move to, what do you call it, Florida. But the folks who are living in San Francisco, is this San Francisco, Rob?

• 1:28:50Adam Sosnick?

  Yes, sir.

• 1:28:51Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, before you watch it, I just want to give you a warning, it's uncomfortable watching this. But we have this in many cities in America. I'm not just highlighting this, but this is what San Francisco looks like right now. Go ahead, Rob.

• 1:29:04Patrick Bet-David?

  And by the way, they're not playing a game like stop. No.

• 1:29:08Speaker 03

  Is it free?

• 1:29:09Patrick Bet-David?

  That's called trank. Are they on that trank? They're on drugs. Yeah, of course. So imagine your kids are walking down and you're just kinda going through and this is what you're seeing. Yeah, it's horrible.

• 1:29:17Speaker 03

  Like, what kind of drug makes you like, like his pants?

• 1:29:21Patrick Bet-David?

  That guy's pants are off.

• 1:29:22Speaker 03

  Bro.

• 1:29:22Patrick Bet-David?

  It's more than just pants.

• 1:29:23Speaker 03

  You're zombies. You're a zombie.

• 1:29:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, you can pause it right now. It's disturbing to watch. California. And FYI, while this is going on, you know what the LAPD chief just said? The LAPD, what's about to come up? The World Cup. The LAPD chief just dropped this following message. You think people want to hear this? Terrifying truth bomb about LA Olympic security. Let's hear it. Oh, man. Now, LA Olympic security or World Cup, I mean, if people, is there gonna be a game in LA? By the way, I'm curious if there's gonna be any World Cup games. Go ahead and play the video, Rob. Go for it.

• 1:29:53Speaker 20

  Requested funding to purchase vehicles, technology, and specialized equipment to be able to, uh, to do the Olympics. In addition, the $1 billion budget is for all agencies involved in the Olympics, not just the LAPD, and will be restricted primarily to police officer overtime. LA 28 confirmed that they have zero police or public safety budget. And while they do have a security budget, it doesn't cover law enforcement.

• 1:30:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so the chief is getting up there before the World Cup, which by the way, eight matches of the 2026 World Cup in the next few weeks, we're only a few weeks away, will be held at SoFi Stadium. Okay, so imagine if you're like going through it, out of 104 total matches that are gonna be happening in North America, of the 104, 8% are in LA, in LA only. And you're telling me this before World Cup? You don't think you're ready? Are you ready for World Cup? What's a bigger event, World Cup or Olympics?

• 1:30:57Speaker 03

  World Cup.

• 1:30:58Patrick Bet-David?

  I would say World Cup.

• 1:30:59Speaker 03

  Oh.

• 1:30:59Patrick Bet-David?

  I would say World Cup.

• 1:31:00Tom Ellsworth?

  But the Olympics is harder, harder to patrol.

• 1:31:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Because it's a lot of different events instead of just one game that's coming in. That makes sense to me, but...

• 1:31:08Tom Ellsworth?

  It's one stadium and then certain hotels is World Cup.

• 1:31:11Patrick Bet-David?

  But Tom, if you think about the World Cup, if people are going to games and you want to take your wife and kids and you're going to LA, what, what things are you thinking about?

• 1:31:17Speaker 03

  Oh my god.

• 1:31:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Are we safe, are we not? The LA chief is telling you, "We're not ready for Olympics." You think they're ready for the World Cup?

• 1:31:23Speaker 03

  The chief?

• 1:31:23Patrick Bet-David?

  If this guy's saying, "We're not ready for the Olympics," and that's in two years, you think they're ready for the World Cup? That's in six weeks?

• 1:31:28Tom Ellsworth?

  That's right, and Ahmed Al Kaboom, who's sitting there, living in Santa Monica, because he snuck across the border two years ago in Mexico...

• 1:31:35Speaker 03

  That's the problem.

• 1:31:36Tom Ellsworth?

  Is, can't wait, can't wait to walk into a group of people, you know, going into a stadium, wearing a special vest.

• 1:31:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:31:45Adam Sosnick?

  Well, California's gonna have a chance to show what it's got, and it's either gonna go great, or it's gonna be, "Al Ahmed Kaboom." I'm hoping everything's okay.

• 1:31:53Speaker 03

  Well, I mean, I know he was joking around, but, but the seriousness of how many people are here that they've said, that, "Brother's active sleeper cell Al Qaeda."

• 1:32:01Tom Ellsworth?

  That's my point.

• 1:32:02Speaker 03

  They're all, trust me, guys.

• 1:32:04Tom Ellsworth?

  I was being incredibly sarcastic and off the cuff, but it is. Could there be one or two sleeper cell people that have walked in right across the border? Sure there could. And could they be just, they can't wait for crowds of people approaching the stadium beyond the security perimeter to go in and wreak havoc? That's what they do. Look around the world. That's what they do.

• 1:32:23Speaker 03

  Tom, we just saw a video from the White House Correspondents of a guy run in and run past. If he had a bomb on his body, that whole group is dead. And think about the magnitude of the World Cup. I don't think, like, the fact that he's saying that, that's a, that's freaking scary. That he's like, "We can't, we can't," like, that's, you don't want to hear a security guy...

• 1:32:41Patrick Bet-David?

  You say that before the World Cup.

• 1:32:43Speaker 03

  I don't want...

• 1:32:44Patrick Bet-David?

  In two years, we're not ready for an event that's happening two years from now. But we're ready for an event that's happening six weeks from now.

• 1:32:50Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, okay.

• 1:32:51Patrick Bet-David?

  For sure, we're gonna be ready for that. Anyways. We'll see. I mean, we're planning on going to a couple of games, but we'll see which ones we're gonna be going to. All right, let's go to the next story. Next story I want to get to is, I, I got a couple of stories I want to get into. I don't know which one's more important. Um, let's go into this one, and then we'll wrap up with the other couple of stories. Erica Kirk will go into that story as well before we wrap up, but I want to get into this one, because this, well, listen. Everybody's focused on war, everybody's focused on oil prices, everybody's focused on economy, security.

• 1:33:20Patrick Bet-David?

  And no one's paying attention to maybe one of the biggest stories in the last 24 hours is a bombshell sexual harassment suit against Lorna Hjaldini JP Morgan branded complete fabrication as John D unmasked. So this story yesterday goes viral, okay? And Rob, I want to read the tweets that this fellow claimed that she sent him or the messages that she sent him. You know, she, he claims he was a sexual slave. Did you guys see that story where he bombshell sexual harassment suit against him? Okay, do you have the, do you have the words of what he says? Cause there's three different things that he claims she would tell him. This is the one.

• 1:34:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Glamorous JP Morgan Chase executive accused of turning married male broker into her sex slave. Claims of Viagra spiking and litany of obscene force acts that made him cry. This is like Jennifer Aniston from Horrible Bosses.

• 1:34:16Patrick Bet-David?

  In real life, right? Can we get some pictures over here? Go a little bit lower, go a little bit, oh Rob, come on, you don't subscribe to this. Rob, no, no, no. That's the one to read. The one to read is that one, because the other one is a I actually want to prefer, I want to read that one first, Rob. I know you have it, okay? So she says her claims are, oh, you did play basketball in college. I love basketball player. They get me so wet. He says that she said that, right? These are his claim, Rob? Is this serious? Is this a joke? You're not like pulling a prank on me because it's a May 1st. It's like maybe it's Yeah, it's a Russian holiday. We have a picture of this Lorna? So let me, let me go through this. Let me read some of this stuff. He's on page 27. I'm with you there, Rob. This never happens to me.

• 1:35:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Give me another one. If you don't F me soon, I'm going to ruin you. Never forget. I'm effing owning you. By the way, I'm telling you, this is from Horrible Bosses. This is Horrible Bosses, 1 million percent. Okay, twice, Doe claims that Hjajani propositioned propositioned him for oral sex in the office on one occasion asking for birthday bejeweled for the brown boy, my little brown boy. What?

• 1:35:28Speaker 03

  My little brown boy.

• 1:35:29Patrick Bet-David?

  You're gonna need to earn it. Is he brown? Look at this one here. Wait, go, go where is it? You're gonna need to earn it, you my little Arab boy toy. Who says stuff like this? I mean, at this point, I agree with Tom. I thought there was an Asian situation. Well, there's an Asian one as well. Fish face? There's so many things here. I bet your little- Do you want a future at JP Morgan? It's that simple. I don't know why you're fighting this. He says she said this to him. Do you want to get promoted at the end of the year or not? Her Johnny warned him, according to the lawsuit. Her Johnny then allegedly removed her shirt, began following her breasts with racially insult. Doe's wife remarking, "I bet your little Asian fish head wife doesn't have these pants."

• 1:36:08Patrick Bet-David?

  At this point, Rob, am I reading this- I've never heard anybody call the fish head before. And then he continues- I like that. Her Johnny allegedly admonished him for crying and scolded him for failing to achieve an erection. Stop effing crying. What is happening right now? Oh, so he got a review? You're an effing douchebag. By the way- That's a needs improvement. So here's the thing, okay? This is terrible calibration when you're going through stuff like this. But you know what I would tell you is, you know what I would- Does not meet expectations, Rob. That's it. This is her? So, this is her. Yeah. She became the most famous person on, and that's him, okay? Poor guy. Oh my, oh yeah. He's married or something like that? This is all, this is all alleged. This is all stuff in the lawsuit-

• 1:36:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh. That he puts. Oh man. By the way, you can read this further for yourself if you want to entertain yourself. On June 9, 2025, Doe says he received a voicemail from someone claiming to be a manager at JPMC, telling him he wasn't welcome because of his skin color, adding that "people don't want your kind here." I mean, this is just a bunch of gibberish, right? Then, New York Post drops a story saying this whole story was fake. He faked the whole story. Rob, if you want to go to it, uh, uh, is this the one? Yeah, if I could go a little bit lower, Rob, with this story. Uh, you know, JP Morgan staffer, whom sources identified as Chirayu Rana, has been accused of making fabricated sexual harassment claims against a high-ranking executive at the bank.

• 1:37:36Patrick Bet-David?

  After an internal investigation found no evidence of wrongdoing, multiple sources told the Post, 35-year-old Rana, now a principal at an investment firm, Brigo Sagamout, is the man who brought the bombshell lawsuit against Lorna Hajini earlier this week. Rana sued filed on Monday under the pseudonym John Doe. Accused a 37-year-old executive director of turning him into a sex slave by drugging him with Roy, what is that? Roy Penall and Viagra?

• 1:38:03Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, roofie, that's the proper, that's the medical-

• 1:38:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Roofies and Viagra and threatening to slash-

• 1:38:07Tom Ellsworth?

  I don't know why they call it roofies, they should call it floor.

• 1:38:08Patrick Bet-David?

  His bonus if he does not comply. Okay. Tom, what do you think about the story here? I know you're following closely, what do you think about the story?

• 1:38:15Tom Ellsworth?

  Come here, my little white Arab boy toy, what do you got? Oh, this is horrible. And now, so it looks, it looks like now that this has now been all discredited, that the guy actually, you know, you know what this is about? So, I, I looked under AI for something, I'll share something in a minute. But, first of all, this is a disgruntled, apparently disgruntled worker, that's trying to get money out of a corporation. I think, it looks to me like that's what's happened here. And so he's filed this lawsuit with these outrageous claims, and the whole thing backfires. Because it goes public, people come out and say, "That woman is not like that, her coworkers."

• 1:38:57Tom Ellsworth?

  JP Morgan says, "We conducted an investigation and we couldn't get this guy." I think that's what it said, Pat, that he refused to cooperate with the investigation by, uh, legal inside JP Morgan. And so, he, he puts this out here. And so, this morning, it looks like that the, that the, all of the data in the court case was made public because it ended up being a public filing, and the media was free to report on it. And so now, this guy looks terrible. It's just, and if he's, if he does, as the articles are alleging, this is disgusting. Tried to destroy this woman's career, and just tried to get money out of it, or make a lawsuit and get through it. Oh, you're defending him?

• 1:39:41Tom Ellsworth?

  No, I'm not defending him, I'm saying it's disgusting what he did. If the, if the reports this morning, Adam, are that- Oh, you're defending her? Yeah. Well, if he's lying- I'm not defending, defending anybody right now. I'm looking at it and saying, "It's disgusting if what he did, he's, the allegations-"

• 1:39:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam wants you to take a position.

• 1:39:57Tom Ellsworth?

  Take a position, Tom. Which one? Backwards. Well, I'll tell you this, and I also looked on, and by the way, what did she call her, uh, what did she call him? Cannons. Cannons. I looked up on AI- What is that, Tom? And I said- Do women usually refer to them as cannons? They said, no. It's, you will hear words like airbags, Twin Peaks, Hooters, jugs, rack, melons, knockers, and tatas, but you don't hear cannons.

• 1:40:21Speaker 03

  Yes, well, we're at war with Iran, Tom.

• 1:40:23Tom Ellsworth?

  Thank God we have AI, right? Yeah, but I think it's disgusting. If he, look at, look at what he's done to her. If it turns out that she had nothing to do with this.

• 1:40:32Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, she's gonna sue the hell out of him.

• 1:40:34Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, my gosh.

• 1:40:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you imagine what her DMs look like right now? Hey, are you hiring?

• 1:40:39Tom Ellsworth?

  I just DM'd her just now. And by the way, did you see X yesterday? There wasn't even comments about her on X yesterday. You saw like 20 guys in suits running across the street in New York and it says JP Morgan's hiring.

• 1:40:53Patrick Bet-David?

  How is Jamie Dimon using this? How is Jamie Dimon?

• 1:40:57Tom Ellsworth?

  There is a meme with Jamie Dimon where somebody's, he's making this horrible face and there's a guy in his ear said, sir, this is what just happened. There's a picture, Jamie Dimon, like, there he is, like, like completely pissed.

• 1:41:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Sir, job application at JP Morgan, check out 686,000%.

• 1:41:15Tom Ellsworth?

  And he's like, wow. So this woman is sexually harassing her underling, her colleague. Allegedly, she allegedly. The suit alleges is the right word. So she's allegedly sexually harassing, she's allegedly racist, allegedly abusive, sexual advances, it's disgusting. But, uh, do we have her phone number by any chance? Let's, I wanna do a follow up here.

• 1:41:37Patrick Bet-David?

  The case is in flux, the filing was pulled, but Rana's lawyer has said they plan to refile properly and stand by the claims, looking forward to discovery. And, uh, that's what the latest is.

• 1:41:48Tom Ellsworth?

  That's all he can say. That's all his lawyer can say. He's got a safe face, even if he's not gonna do it. And by the way, look at this on Twitter and say, you know what Disney character looks like? Say it, Tom, who is it?

• 1:42:01Patrick Bet-David?

  There's one of them, I know.

• 1:42:02Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, I'm not gonna say it. It's a guy from Toy Story.

• 1:42:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Which guy? Woody?

• 1:42:09Tom Ellsworth?

  He's like if Woody and Aladdin had a baby.

• 1:42:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Woody, and what a good play on words, right?

• 1:42:14Tom Ellsworth?

  Ladies and gentlemen.

• 1:42:17Tom Ellsworth?

  Okay.

• 1:42:20Tom Ellsworth?

  Pat, what do you think is going on here? I mean, the stories don't come out all the time.

• 1:42:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Woody, you can't make this up!

• 1:42:24Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh my god.

• 1:42:26Patrick Bet-David?

  I mean, listen, there is, there's a lot of people.

• 1:42:30Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 1:42:31Patrick Bet-David?

  The part that's confusing about this is, you know if you do something like that, what happens for the rest of your career? She's done. Who the hell, no, no, forget her. Her image. She is like, to me, honestly, if I'm her, I'm like, dude, it sucks, but guess what? There's nothing that happened that made her look bad. Nothing. What means, as a female, she's kind of like... I understand that, she just got, look, it helps, it helps that she's attractive. Oh, 100%. It helps that she's attractive, it helps that she's a, now people know she's a winner in New York, she's winning, she's doing her stuff. But that guy, if you did something like that and it was all fake, go ahead and apply for another company to get a job. Oh. Go ahead. It's over. Apply for another company to get a job. Who's gonna trust you? You want people to give you money? You want people to trust you behind closed doors?

• 1:43:15Patrick Bet-David?

  You're done when you make claims like this. You won't get clients like us that are gonna do business with you. And now, if it is, again, we don't know the whole story. Maybe he was drunk, and he was watching Horrible Bosses, and this was a fantasy, he wanted her to talk to him like that, I don't know, I don't know. It's a crazy story, it's a very good story for media, though. Oh, for sure. So we have to cover it, we have to cover the story.

• 1:43:34Tom Ellsworth?

  You should never drunk dial, and especially never drunk sue.

• 1:43:37Adam Sosnick?

  But are you saying that there's a chance that he's just making this all up in order to do what?

• 1:43:41Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm 80%.

• 1:43:41Adam Sosnick?

  To get a lawsuit? Oh, really?

• 1:43:42Patrick Bet-David?

  He wants to get back at the, are you kidding me? Like, there's so many companies that are walking on eggshells frightened, they'll just cut a check to make a story go away. Ooh. They'd make, they'll cut a story, they'll cut a check to make a story go away, all the time.

• 1:43:55Tom Ellsworth?

  And maybe when...

• 1:43:55Adam Sosnick?

  He would have the text messages.

• 1:43:56Tom Ellsworth?

  By the way, you know what's interesting?

• 1:43:58Adam Sosnick?

  Right?

• 1:43:58Tom Ellsworth?

  I saw a news report this morning, reputable source, that went through the bio, allegedly, they're saying that this is the properly researched bio of his background. Pat, he's had like, eight jobs in 12 years, so he's a guy that stays someplace, apparently one or two, and we go through interviewing like this, we have software we built to help companies go through and filter, so apparently, if that story is correct, Pat, he's like this serial job hopper as well.

• 1:44:23Patrick Bet-David?

  He's a journeyman.

• 1:44:24Tom Ellsworth?

  He's a journeyman.

• 1:44:25Patrick Bet-David?

  He's a journeyman.

• 1:44:25Tom Ellsworth?

  The NBA journeyman. I feel horrible for his Asian fish head wife. I'll take a two-year, yeah, I'll take a two-year deal on the league's mid-cap exemption.

• 1:44:34Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, if this becomes a lie, imagine what his wife feels like. Why would you say that? Why would you put that fake lie in there about me?

• 1:44:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Like, it's like, you could have said anything. Goes, why are you taking shots to me? You put fish face in your lawsuit. You really think that about me, babe? That's our private sweetie world. By the way, Tom, that is the, that is the worst, honey. This really, she really did this. Show me the text. She said that, and I was so upset because I don't love her, you know? It's, it's a very, it's, it's just a very, I don't know. Look, it is what it is. I think the best part of the story is the fact that, you know, you're talking about Toy Story, you know, the, the relevance there and horrible bosses. We'll see what happens. Careful out there at work, ladies and gentlemen. Let me get to next story. Let me get to next story. Let me get to next story. Next story I want to get into is, um, uh, so we have that one with Plano. Let me see what I haven't covered.

• 1:45:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, what story have I not gone into before we wrap up? Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Oh, let's do this one, Tom. Oil prices, okay? AAA national average of, uh, gas prices soars as Iran's war remains unsettled. Oil briefly hit a hundred and twenty-six dollars. And, and that number haven't had, we haven't hit a number like that in four years. When you hit a one twenty-six, you're going to be around five dollars a gallon if it stays like that for too long. Slightly higher than that, you need to, to get to five bucks, but go ahead, Rob. Play this clip.

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• 1:46:26Speaker 15

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• 1:46:56Speaker 21

  The pain at the pump hitting harder. Americans now paying the highest price for gas in four years.

• 1:47:02Speaker 22

  Having to choose between gas and food, and that's a very hard decision.

• 1:47:07Speaker 21

  The national average is now $4.35 a gallon for regular, up 31 cents from last week and up $1.18 from a year ago, according to GasBuddy. Having to just go around and see what's the best and what's cheapest is just another thing that we have to deal with. Prices jumping the last few days as oil prices surged. The Strait of Hormuz closed, and the White House in active conversations with lawmakers about congressional authorization for the war.

• 1:47:33Speaker 03

  We'll continue to see oil go up and up and up until somebody blinks, whether it's the US or Iran. I mean, the Strait of Hormuz continues to essentially...

• 1:47:41Patrick Bet-David?

  You know, an expert comes out and talks about how $200 oil and two other scenarios could tip the world into recession, says this global bank. $200 recession, according to the latest quarterly outlook from banking giant BNP Paribas. The broader view expressed by the bank on Wednesday is that the world economy has been dented, but not derailed by the war in Iran, though it does see lower GDP growth rates, higher inflation, more hawkish central banks than it did the beginning of the year. The prospect of oil reaching $200 doesn't seem far-fetched, given the front month Brent oil contract was trading at around $114 a barrel on Wednesday, up 88% this year. But even in this case, where oil prices doesn't reach that high,

• 1:48:23Patrick Bet-David?

  the French bank expects a first-half average of $100. The global economy is dangerously close to how BNP defines a recession. BNP is forecasting 3% GDP growth, defines a recession at anything that's less than 2.5% worldwide. That the decade average is three and a half percent. Tom, how likely is it that oil goes to $200?

• 1:48:42Tom Ellsworth?

  I don't think that's likely, and that's a headline they like to use. But what is not good is oil is still way too high. Like, right now, WTI, which stands for West Texas Intermediate, if you look for oil quotes on American exchanges, that's what you'll find. It's down almost $4 today to 101. So it's almost $4 down. It's still 101.50, I think it is right now. And Brent, that's the other side of the world, in Europe. Brent crude, that is 114, 116 right now, still. So this is still way too high. And people hear, oh, my gosh, you know, you know, look at the stock market doing well. Wait, you got to ignore the stock market.

• 1:49:25Tom Ellsworth?

  We're in earnings seasons. AI is doing well. A lot of things are happening. So the Dow's at 72.50, excuse me, Dow's at 49.700, S and P 500 at 72.50, very, very, very high. Brent's at 109 right now, by the way. This is just, this is bad. It's not whether oil gets to 120, Pat. We need oil to get down to 67 bucks, which was the 62 to 70 range it was in before the war started. We needed to get back down and get supplies in. And then, you know, now we have a chance to get gasoline down, and it's got to happen quick. I don't see it going to 120. I see that as a headline people are banging

• 1:50:06Tom Ellsworth?

  around. But right now, we need 30 bucks to come off of it in the US to take WTI just back down to 71.

• 1:50:16Speaker 08

  Adam?

• 1:50:18Adam Sosnick?

  Listen, I understand why people are a little upset that they're paying a little bit more at the pump. But I would guarantee you this. People would be a lot more upset if a nuclear weapon went off in America, because what Trump is doing is saying the whole short-term Paying for the long-term gain. I get it. You're paying $1 extra at the pump. I get it. But where was this outrage? This selective outrage, when in 2022, you were paying $5 at the pump? Because Biden basically shut down the Keystone Pipeline and it wasn't drill, baby, drill. Where was the outrage there, everybody? So, yes, I want people to save that money and not have to pay more at the pump.

• 1:51:02Adam Sosnick?

  But if your life is to the point where you're literally can't eat because you're paying in a couple of extra bucks a week, you've got bigger issues that you've got to solve in your financial life and your overall life. And I'm not dismissing that and downplaying that. I feel for people that are living paycheck to paycheck. But, you know, what goes up must come down and what goes down must is going to go up. The prices are going to go down. It's going to take some time. You know, Pat, you've quoted the potentially by June, potentially when the World Cup and everything comes here. At the end of the day, this, Trump is doing what nobody else had the balls or the courage to do. Nine US presidents have all criticized and condemned Iran. Trump was the first one who said, you know what? Make my day, homie, Harry, uh, Dirty Harry.

• 1:51:45Adam Sosnick?

  So I predict that this thing's going to go down by summer. We understand that summer, people are driving, the economy's moving. I'll ask you one question. I'll leave it like this. Who's in a worse position now? The United States, that some people are paying a dollar more at the pump, or Iran where their entire economy is crumbling, people are fighting for survival, their Ayatollah is dead, their all their leadership is dead, their economy, their unemployment, their misery index, their inflation, all plummeting, and yet there's a large faction on the, on the far left and the far right who claim that America's losing because they're paying a dollar at the pump? I'm not buying it.

• 1:52:23Tom Ellsworth?

  That's a macro analysis, but you have to remember gasoline's up $2, Adam, and, and I appreciate the macro analysis, but in the pocketbook of the average American worker is gas, it's $2 more. Heating oil was up in...

• 1:52:37Adam Sosnick?

  Why do you say $2 more? It was $3 a couple of months ago.

• 1:52:40Tom Ellsworth?

  No, no, no, it's $2 above the national average before the war started, right? It's $2 up on that.

• 1:52:46Adam Sosnick?

  But where was it before the war started? $3, right?

• 1:52:49Tom Ellsworth?

  No, no, no, no, no. The national average was down like $2.89 because you have to remember the taxes in various states. Yeah. And so that, and then electricity costs is up. So the...

• 1:52:58Adam Sosnick?

  So let me ask you this. Are you saying that you don't agree with Trump doing this?

• 1:53:02Tom Ellsworth?

  No, no, hang on. I'm just saying we can't lose in the macro analysis is to have a heart for the citizens are out there that we want to see this stuff cleaned up by the mid-June.

• 1:53:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam, you really have a way of winning people over. It's like such a thing that you do that's, you know, there's two things. No, it's not, but you, so.

• 1:53:22Speaker 03

  Are you saying that you don't confirm what Trump did here?

• 1:53:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Both things are happening, okay? One, families who are dollar and gas prices increasing impacts their discretionary income are going through a painful time right now. They're feeling it.

• 1:53:39Speaker 03

  Sure.

• 1:53:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Two, I also understand why this is taking place and I'm hoping it ends quickly. Okay? I'm hoping it ends quickly. I would support it if it's a quick thing happening, not something that takes a long time, and I'm optimistic that everything, trust me, yesterday if you were in the room, I wish that conversation would have been recorded. What I'm more interested in is, Benny, yesterday you were on a major Zoom with a bunch of global oil strategists and energy economists and petroleum market analysts with the leaders of OPEC that you were talking to. I don't want to disclose their names. What is your analysis? What do you think is going to happen?

• 1:54:12Speaker 03

  I think that the injection of, you know.

• 1:54:16Tom Ellsworth?

  Injection fracture.

• 1:54:16Speaker 03

  Are we back to JP Morgan? Yeah. You know what I'm talking about, like with the, you know.

• 1:54:21Patrick Bet-David?

  I got it. It makes sense. I totally get it.

• 1:54:23Speaker 03

  Like with all the, you know, infrastructure and all the constituents that are going to be affected by this global, you know, influx of crude and natural gas, I think heating oil and gold, I'm just reading whatever.

• 1:54:35Patrick Bet-David?

  I haven't heard anybody give a better analysis than Benny. Maybe the greatest analysis I've heard. Okay, let's wrap it up here.

• 1:54:41Tom Ellsworth?

  Bye, bye, bye.

• 1:54:43Patrick Bet-David?

  So, we all know what happened at the White House Correspondents Dinner. There was a clip of Erica Kirk running out saying, "I just want to go home," and that created a lot of people talking about it. And then Erica Kirk, in the last few weeks, Drew Ski did that one thing with her. You got a lot of comments that are being made about her. And then she reacted to it. Rob, I can't do four minutes and 12 minutes.

• 1:55:01Speaker 03

  It's right off the beginning.

• 1:55:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay. So, and she came up and she said a few words of why she went to the White House Correspondents Dinner, and the market reacted. So, go ahead, Rob, play the clip.

• 1:55:11Speaker 23

  We may have big problems with illegal immigration in this country. I have to tell you, we have an even bigger problem when it comes to the systemic indoctrination and radicalization of our own citizens.

• 1:55:25Speaker 23

  This is what got my husband killed. This is what has led to three legitimate attempts on President Trump's life.

• 1:55:36Speaker 23

  And I can speak firsthand to that unbearable toll that this must take on our First Lady.

• 1:55:44Speaker 23

  There has never been a president who has faced this many assassination attempts in Americans' entire history. And after each one, the reaction from the far-left has been, at best, a shrug, and in some cases, a sick disappointment that the shooter was unsuccessful. We are all human beings. And if you can just, if you can just pause.

• 1:56:11Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't think, Rob, this is the one that went viral. It was a short 20-second clip of what she said. This one right here. Is this the one? Go ahead. Play this clip. Go ahead, Rob.

• 1:56:18Speaker 23

  Every morning I wake up to a new headline lying about me.

• 1:56:24Speaker 23

  I have comedians dressing up in whiteface. I have people saying I'm not fit to be CEO. And I have Candace Owens claiming I murdered my husband. And the list goes on and on and on.

• 1:56:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, Vinnie, your thoughts?

• 1:56:45Speaker 03

  Before I even say anything, because I know where people are gonna go, I have, by the way, I prayed for this woman. I actually want her to succeed. I want nothing but the best for her and Charlie's children, number one. But she needs to step away as soon as possible, okay? It's gone on.

• 1:57:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Step away as in like away from?

• 1:57:08Speaker 03

  As CEO, Pat, get out of there. You said this a while ago about be the chair, be there. But this is, like, if you're trying to replace Charlie Kirk, God rest his soul, it's impossible. You cannot do it, all right? This is, he's, he was the CEO of a huge, huge international organization, of political organization, Pat. He's irreplace, you're not gonna do it. And I'm sorry, and I, and the people are gonna be butthurt. How dare you, grieving widow? Enough with that nonsense. I'm not talking about none of that. I feel for her, okay? Because she thought that she could replace Charlie Kirk. You can't.

• 1:57:50Speaker 03

  Andrew Colvin, whoever that guy is, they're sitting there doing the Charlie Kirk podcast without Charlie Kirk? Nonsense. Rob, go to their channel. Go to the views of that podcast. Don't even go back and show Charlie's because it's in the millions. Nobody's watching it. Nobody's watching it. So whoever was behind it and all the people that were behind Charlie Kirk, it's working because TPUSA, Pat, they're feeling it, okay? And I'm sorry, you show up to the White House Correspondents Dinner, okay? You're taking photos of people. People are going to talk about you. You're taking, you went to the VIP thing with whatever his name is. You're taking photos and then there's a shooting in a place where you know, you know that the biggest targets are there.

• 1:58:32Speaker 03

  The president has already been, the assassination attempt has already been happened twice. All the major players are there. You're there. There's a shooting and you're crying saying, "I want to go home." You should be home. You haven't been home. You have two children at home. You're about to go on a tour and everything. I'm sorry, Pat. That's a man's job to be the CEO of Turning Point USA, Adam. I don't care what anybody says. That's a man's job. I'm not bashing anything about women, but this is a political, huge organization, all right? With the biggest movement for Republicans and he helped the president become the president. And I'm sorry, if you can't take the heat, that's what CEOs do. I'm sorry.

• 1:59:15Speaker 03

  You went there to confront your critics. Your critics aren't there, Erica. They're not there. Fox is there. CNN is there. Those are cool people there. They're not bashing you. You think Candace and all these people are going to show up there? And I'm sorry, and again, I pray for, you know I do. I genuinely loved Charlie. And I pray for her family. You don't have it. This isn't it. This isn't your bag. Step back. Let somebody else take it. Let somebody else take it. And I say this with pain in my heart. The people behind assassinating Charlie, this is what they wanted, Pat. The movement's weakened. Nobody's watching. You know what I mean? You're replacing it because you want to be in front of the camera. You want to take it and then complain about it? I'm sorry. I'm sorry. This is what comes.

• 2:00:00Speaker 03

  When you want to be the CEO of Turning Point USA, because everybody's coming after you. And when you're in front of the camera, they're all gonna talk. We all know that. I guarantee the comments are, half of them are talking crap, and half of them are saying Vinny is right. And that's what comes with the territory, because I'm sitting in front of a camera in front of a mic pad. She needs to, she, just be the chair. Sit back. When you go on stage, Pat, fireworks, Erica Kirk, CEO, chair. This isn't, this isn't the WWE. This is, you have children. Go take care of them. Go be with them. Let somebody take the, take the reign.

• 2:00:33Adam Sosnick?

  Adam.

• 2:00:33Speaker 03

  That's all I feel.

• 2:00:35Adam Sosnick?

  Uh, I'll just read the Bible quote. Uh, "You shall not afflict any widow or orphan child. If you afflict them in any way, and they cry to me, I will surely hear their cry, and my anger shall burn hot, and I will kill you with the sword, and your wives shall be widows, and your children orphans." That's from Exodus, uh, in the Bible. Uh, whether you believe in God or not, this, the Bible's very explicit on how to treat a widow. I'm talking about a widow right now. I'll talk about the CEO in a second. I think what people have done to Erica Kirk is just shameful and disgusting, how they're treating this person as a widow. I'll get to the CEO portion in a second.

• 2:01:19Adam Sosnick?

  People have to take a long look in the mirror. I'm talking to the people that were dancing on Charlie's grave. I'm people, I'm talking about the people that are accusing Erica Kirk of killing her husband, as if this benefits her at all, as if she wants to be a widow. I don't want to go too far down that path. To me, it's just disgusting. Conversely, if she's in the limelight, and she's in the CEO, and you're claiming that a woman can't be a CEO, or whatever.

• 2:01:43Speaker 03

  I didn't say that.

• 2:01:44Adam Sosnick?

  A lot of people are.

• 2:01:45Speaker 03

  Not for Turning Point USA.

• 2:01:46Adam Sosnick?

  Okay, well, then you are. Then you are.

• 2:01:49Speaker 03

  I'm not, you, you just blanketed me saying, women can't be CEO. When the, I said she can't be the CEO of a political organization.

• 2:01:56Adam Sosnick?

  Why not?

• 2:01:56Speaker 03

  The CEO was murdered. Because that's what comes with it.

• 2:01:59Adam Sosnick?

  Okay.

• 2:02:00Speaker 03

  This is the territory that you're in. You might get shot.

• 2:02:03Adam Sosnick?

  Okay.

• 2:02:03Speaker 03

  You think she can handle that with her two kids? Are you delusional? She can't handle it.

• 2:02:08Adam Sosnick?

  I'm the one defending the widow right now.

• 2:02:10Speaker 03

  That's not.

• 2:02:10Adam Sosnick?

  And criticizing her.

• 2:02:11Speaker 03

  Adam, you took a biblical thing and tried to put it in a place.

• 2:02:15Adam Sosnick?

  You who read the Bible every day should read that quote again.

• 2:02:17Speaker 03

  But you, you're taking that.

• 2:02:18Adam Sosnick?

  You who read the Bible every day should read that quote.

• 2:02:20Patrick Bet-David?

  I want, I want to hear your final thought. Keep going.

• 2:02:22Adam Sosnick?

  But my, my point is this, as a, if you're criticizing a widow, look in the mirror. I'm not saying to you, Vinny.

• 2:02:28Speaker 03

  I know.

• 2:02:29Adam Sosnick?

  I'm saying to the rest of the world. If you want to criticize her as a CEO and saying that this isn't her rightful job, cool, that's cool. But isolate the two. Now for the third point, the whole point that she's crocodile tears, performative. She doesn't really care that her husband was murdered in cold blood. Where are we as a society that we feel like we can just jump down people's throat? And, and criticize every word. And I get it. I got into a, I don't want to say a debate, a, a full-fledged conversation with my girlfriend. She goes, something's not right about her. I don't know, the crying, the rings, the outfits. I go, so what are you saying? She's like, well, I don't know. I just, I get a bit weird feeling about her. I go, well, do you think she killed her husband? She goes, no, that's insane.

• 2:03:14Adam Sosnick?

  I go, thank you. Because people are conflating her crying and fireworks and her being CEO with killing Charlie. I asked one question, what would Charlie think right now? That's the, that's my guiding light. What would Charlie think? He would say, oh my God, I, I, I'm hopefully in heaven. While my wife is there suffering and being criticized left and right. While her husband is, has been shot and assassinated. My two kids are orphans and people want to criticize her constantly? I think that Charlie had a plan in place. I think that Turning Point USA had a plan in place. I think that they put her in CEO as a reason. Do I think she's the best possible CEO? I don't.

• 2:03:54Adam Sosnick?

  But for now she's the CEO and she, in my opinion, is waking up every day as tough as it is. Saying, how can I fulfill what Charlie's legacy is and what he was trying to do? And it's not easy.

• 2:04:07Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm going to come back to you, Vinny. Tom, go ahead.

• 2:04:09Adam Sosnick?

  So a couple of things.

• 2:04:12Tom Ellsworth?

  This is a woman who had no time to mourn in the middle of not just the loss of her husband, but a national tragedy with all the weight and all the heaviness and all the media coverage and everything that went with that. And we weren't in the boardroom when the board, they have, this is a nonprofit that has a board, you can go look it up, and there's like four highly experienced men that are on the board of this. The board made the decision. Charities have boards. And whatever was in Charlie's wishes or a transition plan, here they are. There it is. David Engelhardt, Doug DeGroot, by the way, Pat, you and I were in a Vistage group with Doug DeGroot, Mike Miller and Tom Sodika.

• 2:04:56Tom Ellsworth?

  And so that's the board. And the board has a fiduciary responsibility to, to the charity license to make the choice. And they made the choice. And we weren't in there for that choice. But what I've seen unfold is the result on Erica of all the stress and everything that goes with it. How can this be easy? This can't be easy. And it concerns me seeing the outcome of Turning Point USA seemingly lose momentum. And I think that is really sad, is the, what Charlie did and how he helped with elections and was moving the hearts of kids on Christian foundation to good conservative thinking. And to see Turning Point losing that, that bothers me.

• 2:05:37Tom Ellsworth?

  And lastly, to the verse, I'm going to moderate here real quick on the verse. You quoted the verse in Exodus, "That is under the Mosaic law." And they were talking about the community's duty to take care of widows. Why? Women didn't work and you've, and then didn't have economic capability to feed their children. And so they encouraged the community, "Take care of the widow and the fatherless in your community so we don't come into disrepute of saying that we don't care for God's kids." Under Mosaic law, take care. That's what that was all about. And I don't, I see where you were going, but I don't see the application here.

• 2:06:14Speaker 14

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• 2:06:15Tom Ellsworth?

  Because she works?

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• 2:07:18Patrick Bet-David?

  What do you mean? Because she works?

• 2:07:20Adam Sosnick?

  He's saying that that law was, or that Bible verse was, women didn't work. So the difference is because she has a job now? You said you will not. We can dismiss how widows feel?

• 2:07:31Speaker 03

  No.

• 2:07:31Patrick Bet-David?

  I look at this in a very different way. I look at this in a very different way. Is there anything you want to tell Adam before I go?

• 2:07:37Speaker 03

  I want to say, because Adam, you're talking about the CEO situation. Do you realize her husband, Charlie, when he was around and when he was assassinated, security detail, ex-military, that job that he has, because she's trying to fill that role, is one of the most dangerous jobs, and that proved it, right then and there. So you want, I'm not, has nothing to do with.

• 2:07:57Adam Sosnick?

  Being a public figure is a dangerous job.

• 2:08:00Speaker 03

  Adam, you're taking over a political, like, you understand what TPUSA was?

• 2:08:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me just go a different direction then, because you guys got your thoughts. I'll give my thoughts, and my position doesn't change, but there's another element to it that I've never shared before. So who do you think made the decision after Charlie was killed for her to become the CEO? The board or her?

• 2:08:24Adam Sosnick?

  The board.

• 2:08:26Tom Ellsworth?

  I think her. I think it was the board.

• 2:08:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay.

• 2:08:28Tom Ellsworth?

  Most organizations have a succession plan. It's part of the chart.

• 2:08:32Patrick Bet-David?

  So Tom, I'm part of the board. What advice do you think I give?

• 2:08:37Patrick Bet-David?

  What advice you think I give? If I'm part of the board? You've been in plenty of board meetings with me. You know, you know what I would say? I, so, so if, so let's do two things. Vinny says Erica chose to be the CEO. Okay? You're saying it's the board, you're saying it's the board. Okay? Can you run a poll? I'm curious what the audience think. Because this is where I go with this. If it's the board, the board messed up.

• 2:09:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Why did the board mess up? If you ask me a question like that, do you know what I'm gonna say? I'm gonna say, first of all,

• 2:09:14Patrick Bet-David?

  you know, the conversation of you being CEO today is off the table, if you ask me. Cause you're gonna get non-stop criticism, it needs to go to somebody else. Let's put somebody else that can take all the arrows that is coming in. Pick someone else. Who? I don't know. It can't be you. And I'm gonna ask Erica. I'm gonna say, what's the most important thing to you right now? To be a widow wife who lost one of the most important people in the political history ever? Maybe the most important voice that we have today? Do you wanna go mourn and have the time to yourself? Two, do you wanna be a mother or do you wanna be a CEO? Which of those three is the most important to you?

• 2:09:56Patrick Bet-David?

  That question, if she said mother or mourn, it's, guess what? I'm telling you, step away for six months. And just do your thing to get those two things right. We got it. We'll nominate somebody to be the CEO to take all the arrows. And it's your job, guess what? All the heat, you're getting paid to take all the arrows cause that's what comes with the property of being a CEO. Now, if she says, no, I wanna be CEO. Then you know what I say? Why? Why do you wanna be CEO? What's the benefit of being CEO? Why would you wanna be CEO today? Because here, here's what happens, like,

• 2:10:38Patrick Bet-David?

  you, you, you, the, the part that makes it like that scripture you read from, uh, uh,

• 2:10:42Speaker 03

  Exodus.

• 2:10:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Exodus, old school, Moses.

• 2:10:46Patrick Bet-David?

  is fair, but generally widows step away to mourn.

• 2:10:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Of course. Okay, so you have two kids, they step away to mourn. They step away to mourn to go do their own thing, okay? And it's not like TPUSA, she was a face of it, she was not. He was the face of it, that was his job, okay? So you want to automatically take this position? No, so I think that applies to what the context was back in the days. There's a lot, guys, there's a lot of weird conspiracy stuff about Erica that comes 24/7. It's nonstop, it's out of control. I've never been a fan of the jewelry, I've told you guys when I was there myself, I've never been a fan of the Blink Blink, I've never been a fan of this, I've said that very clearly, I'm not. It's overdoing it, I never saw her with a lot of makeup, then I saw her with a lot of makeup.

• 2:11:39Patrick Bet-David?

  I never saw her with a lot of jewelry, now I see her with a lot of jewelry. That criticism happens when you're on the, what do you call it, on the big stage with the camera. But to me, all of this starts off with, when an event like that happens, the board has an immediate meeting. You gotta ask the question, what's more important to you, being a mom, mourning as a widow, or being a CEO?

• 2:11:59Patrick Bet-David?

  And then imagine you're in the boardroom and the answer is, I want to be CEO. I, Tom, I would kind of be like, are you sure? Yeah. Exactly. Are you sure, you sure you want to be CEO? Yes. Fast decision. Yeah, and so I would have said, guys, I don't, I don't know if I can contribute, uh, uh, you know, here, because I don't think this is the right move. I think the right move is, take a break, let the dust settle, get everything squared away, then go. Then go. Because as much as people sympathize, I was at, we were at Casa D'Angelo yesterday. You notice, I was 10 minutes, you're standing right next to me, this couple there were talking. What do you think they're talking about? You saw what they're talking about, Charlie Kirk?

• 2:12:45Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, really?

• 2:12:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, she was talking about Charlie Kirk. The entire conversation was about Charlie Kirk. And she said, my oldest son, who's a grown man, was crying the day Charlie Kirk got killed. And I was telling the story about where we were at, and you know, yeah. So, I don't know, I think it goes all the way there. So, you know, you know what it is, if the story comes out, it never will, but if the story comes out from the board, that the board nominated her to be the CEO, I disagree with that decision. I think that's a bad decision. But if their story comes out that she chose to be the CEO, then guess what? You can't be upset with the criticism. Because what you're telling the world is, you can handle all the heat in the world and you're willing to take it. Then, then that, this is a very, very nasty world we're living in.

• 2:13:31Patrick Bet-David?

  I got a call the other day from a guy, he asked me the weirdest question. Um, this is a very well-known guy, I won't mention his name because it was a private conversation. He is the best at what he's done the last 30 years. You know who his name is, everyone knows who this guy is. We're going through the back and forth and he's asking me about some of the stuff that people are calling out and this and that's and he said, "Does it bother you?" I said, "No, it doesn't bother me." He says, "Uh, how do you handle it?" I said, "The only thing that bothers me is like, one of my friends came and he says, 'You know how much stuff at the previous company people are saying about you?" I said, "You don't need to tell me." Because the five people that I care about their opinions, I already know what they think and I'm good. So don't worry about sharing it with me, I don't need to know. I'm at a different phase of my life. So, you know they're gonna come after you.

• 2:14:16Patrick Bet-David?

  You know they're gonna come and target you, you know they're gonna do it. This is not a, uh, a not everybody's a Christian, not everybody lives by, you know, the same rules. Social media is nasty, just go look at the stuff that they comment, it's very, very ugly. Comedians are gonna come after you. The approach is to laugh at it, the approach is to say, "Hey, you know what? I guess, you know, you've made it if Druski is doing something about you." So people move away. You know, I guess, you know, who had the worst situation in the last few years that changed his reputation? Tom Brady. What did they say, what did they make fun of him of?

• 2:14:53Speaker 03

  They did a roast. Trainer.

• 2:14:54Patrick Bet-David?

  It was the worst, like the stuff that happened, so you, you, you were for, you know, a week, two weeks, a month, you were probably one of the most searched names in the world. Because everybody wanted to know where you were and you gave your message, the world stopped, the world watched. So I don't know, for me, as much as I see all of this stuff and let me tell you it's not fair this, it's not fair that, I shouldn't be the CEO, I wanna know what the board did. I, I wanna go back to that board meeting. Because if all those people are board members... Did you guys really recommend her to be the CEO? Did you? Why? Why put that burden on somebody like that? Why? I don't know. When Tom was in a bad situation, and by the way, I'm sure they're good people. If we were part of the same visage, I'm trying to remember him. I don't remember.

• 2:15:39Patrick Bet-David?

  This was probably in Northridge, California, when we were a part of that. It was a long time ago. Yeah, it was a long time ago. 20 years ago, 15 years ago. But to me, the board has to make the decisions that are not about pleasing somebody. It's what's best for the organization at that time. And by the way, I'm just giving my thoughts. I'm not giving like, you know, you said something that's very similar to what Whitlock said. A lot of the points you hit are the points that Whitlock hit. And I saw that, and I thought he was being fair on what he said. And I watch a lot of this stuff the last 24 hours because I'm trying to see what people are saying. Did he say that she shouldn't be? Yeah, he said you should step down. Yeah, he said. Yeah, that part you didn't agree with, the woman part.

• 2:16:24Patrick Bet-David?

  No, but that's what he said. But to me, Vinnie, to me where I'm at, so to me where I'm at is that board meeting. If there's anything I want to know, I don't want to see text exchanges, email exchanges. I don't want to know anything. I want to know what happened in that board meeting? And what was advised? What? And then, everything goes from there. If she wanted this job, you got to take all the criticism that's coming. If they told you to do it, why would you recommend a widow to be a CEO right after her husband got killed? Why? So, that's my criticism. All the other stuff, the jewelry stuff, yeah, it's not my stuff, but everybody's different. Vinnie likes these, what do you call, type of watches? What do you call that? A transformer type of watch, right?

• 2:17:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam doesn't drive cars. It's better for society, but he. Likes picking Spanish Uber drivers. Right? Tom has his own things that he does. Everybody is different. For a woman. But you cannot expect to be the position that you're in without getting unfair level of scrutiny. And you have to ask yourself when you're privately by yourself, how much of it did I attract? How much of it could it have been avoided? And that's a tough conversation to have. But, long-term, by the way, if all of a sudden, because it's this event, the tour is then canceled, what does it say? Who do you think chose to become the CEO? 53% are saying Erica Kirk.

• 2:17:45Adam Sosnick?

  Well, how does that work if like they all have a say, they're board members? If she's like, I'm not saying that she did this, if she's like, I want to be the CEO.

• 2:17:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, let me ask you, say she said she wants to be the CEO. You're a board member, what do you say? You're, you're, you can actually give good advice and not being afraid of, uh, given the, uh, you know, what do you call it, the controversial advice? What would you really say if she said she wants to be, give her advice as a sister?

• 2:18:06Adam Sosnick?

  Well, uh, number one, how, how quickly did they make this?

• 2:18:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Quickly, very quickly.

• 2:18:10Adam Sosnick?

  Right?

• 2:18:11Speaker 03

  Seven days.

• 2:18:12Adam Sosnick?

  Okay.

• 2:18:13Speaker 03

  Seven days.

• 2:18:13Adam Sosnick?

  Obviously, everyone was still in shock, it's, it's a week later. I, I think the number one question they would ask is, are you really ready for this? Are you really ready?

• 2:18:21Patrick Bet-David?

  What, no, forget about what they said, what would you say?

• 2:18:24Adam Sosnick?

  If I was a board member?

• 2:18:25Patrick Bet-David?

  She says, I want to be the CEO.

• 2:18:27Adam Sosnick?

  If she came and said that?

• 2:18:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 2:18:29Adam Sosnick?

  I, I would, I would gently grill her, well, why do you want to be the CEO? Do you think you're equipped?

• 2:18:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Is that not, is that not a natural state to question that?

• 2:18:38Adam Sosnick?

  Of course, you have to.

• 2:18:39Patrick Bet-David?

  So to me, a part of this, Adam, is on two people, her or the board, nobody else.

• 2:18:46Adam Sosnick?

  Well.

• 2:18:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Nobody else, so it, it doesn't go anywhere, and I, I don't want to go deeper into this because I know people are going to call me and say, I can't believe you're doing this, you're doing that.

• 2:18:53Adam Sosnick?

  Well, we're already in it.

• 2:18:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 2:18:55Adam Sosnick?

  And, and you've, you've said your position, nothing that you said today was different, but we're kind of Monday, morning, quarter, where do you think it goes from here? Because it, she is the CEO, whether they, whether the board or her.

• 2:19:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, no, where it goes from here.

• 2:19:07Adam Sosnick?

  Where do you think it goes from here?

• 2:19:08Patrick Bet-David?

  It's not about where you go from here, you put yourself in this situation, man up. Nobody told you to be the CEO.

• 2:19:13Adam Sosnick?

  Or woman up.

• 2:19:14Patrick Bet-David?

  You know, you gotta do it, well, guess what, that's the criticism.

• 2:19:17Adam Sosnick?

  Well, don't you think whoever was the CEO, if not for her, whoever would have been, knowing today's society and climate and commentators, if they would have picked Bill McGee, whatever.

• 2:19:27Patrick Bet-David?

  No, I disagree.

• 2:19:28Adam Sosnick?

  They'd be like, he killed Charlie!

• 2:19:29Patrick Bet-David?

  I disagree.

• 2:19:29Adam Sosnick?

  He killed Charlie!

• 2:19:30Patrick Bet-David?

  I disagree.

• 2:19:31Adam Sosnick?

  Why?

• 2:19:31Patrick Bet-David?

  I disagree.

• 2:19:32Adam Sosnick?

  They would have done that to anybody, my opinion.

• 2:19:33Patrick Bet-David?

  And by the way, it, it, at, at a, at a what scale? Same scale or less?

• 2:19:38Adam Sosnick?

  If someone came out of the blue.

• 2:19:40Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no.

• 2:19:41Adam Sosnick?

  Or even one of the board members, if nobody knows their name.

• 2:19:42Patrick Bet-David?

  You know, you know who you choose as a CEO at this position? Do you know what type of a CEO you choose when something like this happens?

• 2:19:47Adam Sosnick?

  Old and stable.

• 2:19:49Patrick Bet-David?

  You choose the most. Boring.

• 2:19:51Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 2:19:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Person that's trusted and that person does it because it's an interim CEO.

• 2:19:57Adam Sosnick?

  That's what she could have done.

• 2:19:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Then you come back six, 12 months later, after everything is caught and running a poll, getting the audience involved and let the audience say, we want Erica to be the CEO. Then she says, I'm willing to take the job. The sequencing was out of whack. So again, I'm not, I've always, you know, Charlie always had an offer where he could always call me and he would call and we would have, you know, many different types of conversations and I enjoyed every one of them. So to me, it's actually binary. You chose to be the CEO, lots of pressure comes with that. The board said you better be the CEO, then the board screwed up. It's that simple.

• 2:20:39Adam Sosnick?

  When you say binary, meaning if you're gonna take the job, be ready for the criticism.

• 2:20:43Patrick Bet-David?

  You don't have a choice. By the way, you know, you know why I would say don't take.

• 2:20:46Adam Sosnick?

  Not an if.

• 2:20:47Patrick Bet-David?

  You know why I would say don't take the job as a CEO? Do you know why I would say don't take the job as a CEO?

• 2:20:53Adam Sosnick?

  Cause the widow component?

• 2:20:54Patrick Bet-David?

  No, not at all, not at all. Never, ever, ever follow, to, to put the pressure of being the shadow of a person that is a one of one. You never put the, the pressure of replacing, the shadow is so massive, that's your husband. That is not a fair competition. You're not gonna replace him. You're not gonna be able to do what he does. There is no winning for you.

• 2:21:20Adam Sosnick?

  I don't think she's trying to replace him. I think she's trying to fulfill what he is.

• 2:21:23Patrick Bet-David?

  No, but they have to.

• 2:21:24Adam Sosnick?

  Legacy is.

• 2:21:24Patrick Bet-David?

  But they have to think that way. They have to think that way. And to say that the shadow is there and then the board made the decision, okay, well, I, yeah, I don't know. To me, it, to me, it's problematic and it starts from there. So either the onus goes on the board or the onus goes on her. And that part of the criticism? Dude, if something happened to, to, and I, I, I don't want to compare, but if something happens, and you raise your hand for the job, you know what this means? What do you think this means?

• 2:22:00Adam Sosnick?

  I'm ready.

• 2:22:01Speaker 03

  I'm ready.

• 2:22:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Let's go. No, you, what, what else does this mean? What else does it, you're losing the right to what?

• 2:22:08Adam Sosnick?

  To complain.

• 2:22:08Speaker 03

  Complain.

• 2:22:08Patrick Bet-David?

  About what?

• 2:22:09Adam Sosnick?

  Criticism?

• 2:22:10Speaker 03

  Anything.

• 2:22:11Adam Sosnick?

  The road ahead. Yeah. But I think, I, this is me, from a business perspective, I'm with you. From a moral perspective, the, the lies out there, the, the accusations, that's not, that doesn't come with the territory. There's no other CEO in America who's accused of killing the former CEO.

• 2:22:30Speaker 03

  It's gonna come with the territory, and, and can I ask you a question?

• 2:22:32Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, well, that's, that's a sad state of affairs in society.

• 2:22:34Speaker 03

  That's who Adam gets evil.

• 2:22:35Adam Sosnick?

  When just because he's the CEO, be ready to be accused of murder.

• 2:22:38Patrick Bet-David?

  The guy at the top had three assassination attempts on him, accused of being a pedophile, you know, they were accusing him of having sex with his daughter?

• 2:22:46Speaker 03

  Yup.

• 2:22:46Adam Sosnick?

  You remember that?

• 2:22:47Patrick Bet-David?

  What's bigger than that? I mean, do you realize, like?

• 2:22:49Adam Sosnick?

  It's absurd.

• 2:22:50Patrick Bet-David?

  But that's what, but that's part of the pressure, you chose to be the president.

• 2:22:55Speaker 03

  Yup.

• 2:22:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Don't, don't feel, you know, you, I'm not gonna sympathize for you.

• 2:22:58Adam Sosnick?

  I hear you.

• 2:22:59Patrick Bet-David?

  You chose this job.

• 2:23:00Speaker 03

  And he asked one question, and I want, I want you to answer it. You said, cause you were like, oh, everybody's going after, if Charlie right now would look down at him and say something to her, what do you think Charlie would say? You think Charlie Kirk would say, keep, take my, what do you think he would say? What would Charlie say?

• 2:23:14Adam Sosnick?

  I think he would have his wife's back.

• 2:23:16Speaker 03

  And, hold on.

• 2:23:17Adam Sosnick?

  And understand the challenges that she's dealing with.

• 2:23:19Speaker 03

  So what would he say to her in regard to this situation before she's CEO? What does he say?

• 2:23:23Adam Sosnick?

  Something tells me that she and him, that she's praying to him non-stop, and something, I think we forget one thing. This woman did just, just come out of the blue, forget about the CEO for a second, this was this man's wife.

• 2:23:34Speaker 03

  I understand that.

• 2:23:35Adam Sosnick?

  They had kids together. You know, you was talking about the last person you, do you know the conversations they had as she, as he was building this company? I don't, look, I get it.

• 2:23:43Speaker 03

  So what would he say to her? What, what do you think Charlie would say? God rest his soul, he's, he's gone. And he has a moment, you think, I'm, I'm curious, what does he tell her in that moment? To be the CEO and take over everything?

• 2:23:53Adam Sosnick?

  Do you think he's basically would be saying, you're doing a horrible job?

• 2:23:56Patrick Bet-David?

  I didn't say afterward, I'm saying in that moment. Encouraging her and understanding. I think he would say, babe, go take care and raise our children. You got, you're financially set for life. Then why didn't she pick that at the beginning then? Adam. And by the way, that's where the criticism. That's the criticism. And guess what? You know, this, this is, this is not about, there's a reason why I don't touch this topic. Yeah. There's, there's one reason why I don't like to touch this topic, because of one guy. Charlie. That's it. I don't like to touch this topic. It's a weird thing to have this conversation. You feel it in the room right now. Weird. I speak, I speak here, assuming Andrew, one of the guys is gonna watch it and say, now we know where they're at and there's.

• 2:24:36Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm, I'm very comfortable with my positions. I won't go to sleep losing sleep over the fact that I'm being unfair. I don't worry about that. What I'm saying to you is, if this is my daughter, if this is my sister, my advice would be not right now. That would be my advice. Not right now. Okay? And, and, you know, all the other stuff when, you know, when people say stuff from both sides. Well, let me tell you, I think Charlie this, I think Charlie that. Those conversations are different conversations, but this is a very delicate situation. So I'm, I wanna, I wanna wrap up with this last story and then we finish up. It is a Friday, so let's go with this story. Let's have some good news before we. I wanna, I wanna do this story and then we'll wrap up.

• 2:25:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay. And we'll, we'll, we'll go and finish it up here. So. Oh, that, that. There is a. Story that I sent you? No, this is it. This is. Oh. Y47, Vinnie. Wow. This is hilarious.

• 2:25:35Patrick Bet-David?

  You hit peak happiness according to science. Rob, can you please pull this up? Okay? According to this article, you know what it means? What? Yesterday was the last day you peaked. I was happy. Because today, the great Vincent O'Shaughnessy turns 48 years old today. I'm not happy anymore. You're done. Pack it in, buddy. Come on in, guys. Come on in, come on in. I'm depressed now, Pat. The one and only Vincent O'Shaughnessy turns 48. Bring the cakes, the balloons, so we can start singing. Oh, no. Are we? Your brother's bringing the cake. My younger brother's here. On three. One, two, three. Happy birthday to you.

• 2:26:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Happy birthday to you.

• 2:26:22Adam Sosnick?

  Vincenzo.

• 2:26:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Happy birthday, dear Vinny.

• 2:26:27Adam Sosnick?

  We love you.

• 2:26:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Happy birthday to you.

• 2:26:31Adam Sosnick?

  Happy birthday, Vinny.

• 2:26:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Aw, man.

• 2:26:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Bingo.

• 2:26:36Speaker 03

  Wow. Well, Pat, thank you, guys. As everybody knows, he knows, I know you know, I tell people all the time. I'm not a birthday guy. My birthday, I call my mother, Pat, because it's my mom's day. My mom did everything. I'm here right now because of my mom.

• 2:26:50Adam Sosnick?

  I love your mom. Sweet Lana, we love you.

• 2:26:52Speaker 03

  So I don't take any credit, I'm just here. But I want to say, I am so blessed, so lucky that God put you in my life. I'm here, I'm the best version of me I've ever been. I'm so proud. My brother's here, who I freaking adore. I have the best family, I have the best friends, I have the best groups, everybody here, everybody at ValueTainment, everybody at home. I appreciate you guys, and I love you guys with all of my heart. God bless everybody, and this is, uh, yeah. This is one of those moments, Pat, it's not about me, it's about my mom.

• 2:27:20Adam Sosnick?

  And you're 47 today?

• 2:27:21Speaker 03

  I'm 48, Adam. I was happy last night. So shut up!

• 2:27:27Speaker 03

  But I love you guys, thank you guys so much. Thank you.

• 2:27:30Adam Sosnick?

  Well, I gotta say one thing about Vinny, because four years ago this month, you joined ValueTainment.

• 2:27:36Speaker 03

  Ready for this? This is how special this month is, Pat?

• 2:27:38Adam Sosnick?

  What's your point, Adam?

• 2:27:39Speaker 03

  May 10th is four years, May 31st, Kelly's birthday, is my three years sober. Bingo.

• 2:27:44Adam Sosnick?

  I remember.

• 2:27:45Speaker 03

  That month.

• 2:27:46Adam Sosnick?

  So, uh, happy you're here, brother. You know, one of the most common Manek questions I get. You know, are you and Vinny really fighting? I can't believe.

• 2:27:53Speaker 03

  We do.

• 2:27:53Adam Sosnick?

  We fight like this, we fight like brothers.

• 2:27:55Speaker 03

  Yeah, I love you.

• 2:27:56Adam Sosnick?

  And then right after this, we'll go have lunch.

• 2:27:58Speaker 03

  Hundred percent.

• 2:27:58Adam Sosnick?

  This guy will make me lunch sometimes.

• 2:28:00Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 2:28:00Adam Sosnick?

  I love you, I'm so glad you're here.

• 2:28:02Speaker 03

  Thank you.

• 2:28:02Adam Sosnick?

  And, uh, future looks bright.

• 2:28:03Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm gonna say this to you, Vinny, you know, I've had interactions with a lot of people in my life, and I've met a lot of cool people in my life. You are one of the coolest cats I've ever met in my entire life.

• 2:28:18Speaker 03

  Thank you.

• 2:28:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Genuineness, your heart, your character. My kids love you, our family loves you, my dad loves you. Uh, you're one of a kind, man, and, and, and I'm so glad that DM started on Instagram and it led to this, this cake I had from your mom this morning that your brother brought in and him being here and seeing you going from there to the example you're setting to people around today, my, my boys look up to you, my sons look up to you, and when they see Uncle Vinny, they're the happiest when he's around them. Brooklyn can't wait to wish you a happy birthday.

• 2:28:49Speaker 03

  I can't wait.

• 2:28:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Um, and, and when you shared the gift, he told, he told us the gift that you gave this morning to him that you messed him up before the podcast. That's a sick gift that you gave.

• 2:28:58Speaker 03

  My brother ruined me.

• 2:28:58Patrick Bet-David?

  1973.

• 2:29:00Speaker 03

  That's great.

• 2:29:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Watch that your mother gave to your father.

• 2:29:05Speaker 03

  Yup, and he had it restored.

• 2:29:06Patrick Bet-David?

  He fixed the watch, restored and gave it to you this morning.

• 2:29:08Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah.

• 2:29:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Try to top that gift, Tom. Wow.

• 2:29:11Speaker 03

  I mean.

• 2:29:12Patrick Bet-David?

  I told my team real quick, take my gift out of here.

• 2:29:17Speaker 03

  Pat, like, I'm about, like, he gives it to me right there, like, and I'm like, I'm about to get emotional, like, I gotta, I gotta go in front of a camera right now, but Pat, I love you, thank you.

• 2:29:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Love you too.

• 2:29:24Speaker 03

  Thank you so much. When I'm not there, because they're all in California, which we always talk about, this is my family. When I'm, when I'm at your house, when I'm all around them and we're eating dinners, and Dylan's sitting on me here, Tico's over here, Sen and all of them are running around, it's like, it's like my family away from my family, and I love you and I appreciate you.

• 2:29:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, God willing, one day, everybody will move here, he'll get his act together and he'll move to Florida. Then we gotta get mom, we gotta get, we gotta get everybody, everybody's gonna be Floridians.

• 2:29:47Speaker 03

  Everybody.

• 2:29:47Patrick Bet-David?

  We're gonna start growing the Syrian community in South Florida for a while.

• 2:29:51Speaker 03

  Please, please.

• 2:29:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Alright, for everybody watching, guys, do me a favor, go and connect the guy, wish him a happy birthday, send him some love.

• 2:29:56Speaker 03

  And can I say one thing, Pat?

• 2:29:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Of course.

• 2:29:57Speaker 03

  ValueTainment Comedy, Rob, can you put that link out? We're at 990,000.

• 2:30:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Stop.

• 2:30:02Speaker 03

  All we need, Rob.

• 2:30:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Can't wait.

• 2:30:03Speaker 03

  We are less than 10,000 away from 1 million.

• 2:30:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Everybody sub, A Million Comedy.

• 2:30:09Speaker 03

  That's my gift, go to ValueTainment Comedy and, and sub it, and let's do it, and I love you, Pat, let's go.

• 2:30:16Patrick Bet-David?

  By Monday, we want a million on Vinny's stuff. One million!

• 2:30:19Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:30:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Happy birthday, gang, have a great weekend, God bless, we'll do it again on Monday. Bye bye, bye bye.

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