Bongino RESIGNS, Reiner Murders SHOCKING Updates + Shapiro SLAMS Tucker, Candace & Fuentes | PBD Podcast | Ep. 703

Patrick Bet-David, Tom Ellsworth, Vincent Oshana, and Adam Sosnick break down Dan Bongino’s resignation, shocking new developments in the Reiner murder case, and Ben Shapiro publicly calling out Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens, and Nick Fuentes. ------ ✝️ FAITH OVER FEAR COLLECTION: https://bit.ly/3MIFOUu Ⓜ️ MINNECT WITH SANTA CORKY: https://bit.ly/497uZ5W 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON SPOTIFY: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g57zR2⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4g57zR2 Ⓜ️ CONNECT ON MINNECT: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4kSVkso ⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4kSVkso Ⓜ️ PBD PODCAST CIRCLES: ⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4mAWQAP⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4mAWQAP 🥃 BOARDROOM CIGAR LOUNGE: ⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4pzLEXj⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4pzLEXj 👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: ⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4lzQph2 ⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4lzQph2 💬 TEXT US: Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time! ABOUT US: Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.

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• 0:15Speaker 00

  My handshake is better than anything I ever signs, right here.

• 0:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so let me start off by saying we are late today because of me, because my four-year-old was performing for Christmas event, the biggest event of the year at our school this year, and she was up there, and you know, as a father, when you stand up and there's a thousand people in the crowd and you look like a little geek and you're like, "Hey, please, do you see me?", and then she just goes like this, and she goes like this. And that's all you wanted, all the money in the world, baby, that's all I wanted to see this morning, but we're here together in the podcast. We have a guy that apparently he is officially, he went from the biggest Trump-hating guy, that he would sit here, you know, fight, "You're never gonna get me to Alexandria",

• 1:08Patrick Bet-David?

  and always having temper tantrums, okay? To all of a sudden, he's at the White House with the president, with running around with all these, you know, people and yarmulke kissing the wall tap of stuff going on, and you know, Mark Levin putting his hands around the president saying he's the biggest Jewish president we've had, and Adam's right there in the room, so forgive him.

• 1:26Adam Sosnick?

  With Marla Maples, by the way, shout out to that gorgeous lady.

• 1:29Patrick Bet-David?

  With Marla Maples, yeah, so anyways. So, that's what's going on today, we got a lot of stories, Turning Point USA yesterday, apparently these two guys who, you know, there's real serious talks of, you know, the UFC matchup that they're doing at the White House? There is a talk of maybe Tucker Carlson against Ben Shapiro, and people are actually buying into it, that could happen, there's a possibility. Because Ben gives a talk, okay? You never want to be the first to speak if you're gonna call somebody out. Ben gives a talk, 20 minutes, written, every single word, you could tell he read what he wrote in his note. Tucker comes up and gives a talk, I think 30 minutes, and then he does a 50-minute Q and A. And there is a, there's some stuff going on there. There's some stuff going on there. We'll

• 2:13Patrick Bet-David?

  talk about that. I watched both of the speeches and have some thoughts on it. Erica Kirk got up on stage and I think Rob, if you're saying she's told a joke about Egypt and whatever, which is great that she's having fun right now. She's able to have some levity. Good for her. But we got a few stories here. Miriam Adelson, who's kind of rich, pledges $250 million for a third Trump term at White House Hanukkah party. And Mark Levin puts his arms around the president and shakes him. I don't know if I've seen the president being shaken like that.

• 2:46Speaker 03

  That was a man, he got on his shoulder, it was like.

• 2:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I saw Mark doing that. And a few other stories with Nick Reiner making first court appearance to face murder charges and killing of parents. Some very, very weird videos are resurfacing from many, many years ago. Some of them are extremely weird that's resurfacing. But I think he is, he's got some, you know, obviously some challenges he's dealt with in the past. Hedge fund billionaire Ray Dalio, wife donates 300,000, donate to 300,000 Trump accounts. 300,000 Trump accounts. Good for them. Trump's approval rating on the economy plummets to new low. Poll, that's a Daily Caller story. Ken Griffin from Citadel urges Trump to

• 3:30Patrick Bet-David?

  create distance between White House and Fed with his pick for chairman and has its Fed chair candidacy receive pushback from high level. We'll talk about that because that was one of the stories. Scott Jennings fires back where Wiles stands with Trump after Vanity Fair backlash. Trump and top aides publicly defend Susie Wiles on the Vanity Fair story that took place. Karen Bass admits botched response to LA fires. An unfortunate candidate moment. Dan Bongino to leave the FBI Deputy Director job with rumored replacement waiting in the wings. Poll shock, Democrats congressional approval sinks to an all time low. AOC leads. You ready for this one, folks? Listen, pay attention. If you're driving, put your hands on 10 too. Good. I'll give you a

• 4:12Patrick Bet-David?

  second. You ready? Okay. Ready? AOC leads JD Vance for the first time in 2028 election matchup poll. And this is a real poll. Did you hear what I just said? AOC leads JD Vance in 2028 matchup poll. It's not a big lead, but it's still a lead. Would you have ever guessed that AOC would have been ahead of? J D Vance, well that time is here. Ramaswamy calls on conservatives to reject Groypers.

• 4:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Benny's got some thoughts on that. Youth, sports and crisis as skyrocketing costs price out parents threaten childhood health. It is expensive, to be honest with you, like everything you, we were part of a soccer team. One soccer team is like, you gotta buy seven jerseys. I said, what did you say? He says, Jennifer comes and says, he needs seven jerseys. I said, babe, what? NBA players don't have seven different types of jerseys. It's seven different color jerseys you gotta buy. I'm like, this is, I was like, okay, babe, we'll do it. I'm looking at the families, I'm like, how many people can do seven jerseys times this, times that? Anyways, it is getting kind of a little bit out of control. Back in the days, we would play with, you can't use this words nowadays, but it was called, uh, how do you pronounce it? Uh, wife, uh, A white t-shirt with little suspenders.

• 5:26Speaker 04

  Italians used to wear wifey.

• 5:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, the Italian.

• 5:28Speaker 04

  Hey, hey.

• 5:29Patrick Bet-David?

  It's not a problem. White shirt is what we used to play with, but uh, show your hairy chest with three hairs when you were 13 years old, but anyways, Treasury Secretary Scott Besson mass deportations are bringing rent down for working class Americans. Nearly two thirds of Americans vote, voters back social media bans for kids under 16.

• 5:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Netflix, ready for this one, folks? Barstool is taking their podcast, apparently, Pardon My Take, they're removing it from YouTube and taking it solely to Netflix. So, Rob, we should run a poll.

• 6:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Would you like to see us take our podcast 100% away from Spotify, YouTube, everything? And only put it on Netflix, okay? Just ask that question and let's see what the audience says, okay? We're not doing it, guys, this is, I'm just telling you, like, just, would you, would you like us to do something like that? You think it's a good move, Rob? Maybe run that poll, let's see what our friends here will tell us. Oscars bolt from ABC to YouTube starting in 2029. Uh, Nick Reiner made his first appearance, we talked about that. Bondi Beach gunman potentially planned massacre months ahead with final insult to victim families. Pierce Morgan Candace owns spar over major claim about Charlie Kirk assassination. And then we got a couple of other stories that's going on over here.

• 6:52Patrick Bet-David?

  What we know about the suspected Brown University shooter, Vinny, I saw your tweet yesterday. I'm sure you believe 100% what they're saying.

• 6:58Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, yeah, for sure.

• 6:59Patrick Bet-David?

  US inflation falls to 2.7% as slower housing and food increases offset a surge in electricity. MAGA infighting erupts at Turning Point USA conference. We'll definitely talk about that. And then we got a couple of other things. Tucker Carlson humiliated as a big Trump prediction flops. What is that? I don't know what that is about. Is that's a...

• 7:18Adam Sosnick?

  That's about Venezuela, I believe.

• 7:20Patrick Bet-David?

  That was the war invasion head fake. Got it. The Breakfast Club and Bobby Jones. Is this the old Bobby Jones golfer? The ones who are no longer with us? Or is this a different Bobby Jones? He's back with the podcast. Yeah. I heart media to Netflix to go to Netflix. Okay, guys, that's some good stuff. Vinny's got a special announcement that I want Vinny to share with you guys. Go ahead, Vinny.

• 7:42Speaker 04

  So, guys, as you guys know, the faith over fear line, we had the faith over fear shirt. We just came out, this just come out, it's live right now. Pat Ward just said the faith over fear hat. I'm trying to figure out, do we have the symbol here? We have the cross here, Hebrews 11, uh, 1 on the back.

• 7:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, can you click on the hat and show the pictures?

• 7:59Speaker 04

  Yeah, let everybody see this. Guys, it's embroidered.

• 8:01Patrick Bet-David?

  It's sick.

• 8:02Speaker 04

  I only wear Yankee hats. Oh, yeah, so I only wear Yankee hats. But, guys, you can see the future looks bright on the bottom. This is stitched, Hebrews 11, 11, 11, 1, that, and then the cross on the side. Like I said, I only wear Yankee hats, but...

• 8:14Patrick Bet-David?

  It's 3D embroidery.

• 8:15Speaker 04

  Yo, no, it's ridiculous. And I just want, like, this is, like, every time something like this happens, like, the hats finally come in, we're at a pivotal place where, right now, with everything that's happening with Christians in Nigeria, as you're seeing what's happening in Europe, you're seeing what's happening in Australia, the enemy wants us to be afraid. I don't know if you guys saw this, Australia, France, Germany, they just canceled all their Christmas celebrations, all their freaking New Year's stuff because they're afraid. I'm telling you guys right now, I've said this before, in the Bible, 365 times, there's, it says, "Do not fear." Okay? Just have faith. And when it comes to having faith in Christ, there's one story that I want to say. And you know this, in Matthew, chapter 20, I think, verse 9, or 9, verse 20 to 22,

• 8:59Speaker 04

  there's a, Jesus is walking through Galilee, and everybody, he's healing people. People are touching him and grabbing him, and he's just trying to get through the crowd. And there was a woman that had an issue of bleeding for 12 years. They believe it was like a menstrual situation. She says to herself, and this is in scripture, "All I have to do is touch the hem of his robe, and I'll be healed." Okay, so she crawls through this crowd, and she just reaches and touches a string that's hanging off Jesus's robe, and he stops in the crowd, and he goes, "Who touched me?" Alright, and Peter and everybody's like, "Jesus, we're, everybody's touching." He goes, "No, no, no, who touched me?" He said, "He felt the power leave his body," and he looks, and the woman is on the floor, instantly healed, and she's crying, Pat.

• 9:42Speaker 04

  And she stands up, and she goes, "Jesus, you healed me." And he looks at her, and he goes, "I didn't heal you. It was your faith that healed you." Think about that, think about that.

• 9:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Powerful.

• 9:51Speaker 04

  Just touching his clothes, and she was healed, and that's belief. And I want to say one last thing. When Jesus was in Nazareth, he was powerless. He couldn't do any miracles, and you know why? He said, "Because it was their disbelief, because they didn't believe." So your faith is what creates the miracles in your life. And I think this hat is that message, and this is letting everybody know, "I'm not afraid, we're not afraid. I'm a Christian, I wear it proud, and I want people to know that." And, uh, yeah, that's it, and it's live right now.

• 10:19Patrick Bet-David?

  I love it, and you know, you can go to VTmerch.com, place the order, get the hat, get the shirt, get the shoe, all of those, we'll put over there for you. Yesterday, I had these pastors that flew in from Australia, and he said the most powerful line. Two pastors, the guy's from Egypt, his name is Martin Sidrow, and his wife Millicent. And he says, "When I was a kid, and my dad and I were talking about becoming a pastor one day." He says, "My father told us one thing. If you want to be a pastor, you can't fear. If you fear, don't be a pastor." One doesn't go without the other. You have to be very strong about your faith that you have. So for those of you that are comfortable this Christmas season, New Year's season, going into 2026 with faith, put that on, walk around, you'd be amazed how many people stop by and say, hey, man, I'm with you. Hey, man, I'm with you.

• 11:03Patrick Bet-David?

  I love the stories of just winks with people that are, you know, fans of the show or, you know, they're looking at each other like, man, you're also Future Looks Pride, you're also Faith Over Fear, you're also Valuetainment. Me too. I'm one as well. So go place the order or two or three and gift it to some of the people in your community. And by the way, we have to, remember how we said that people that spend $2,000, one of you guys is going to get selected to be on the podcast? We're going to announce the winner. Oh, really? I called him. I called him. He's like, you're kidding me. Stop. What are you talking about? Are you serious? No way. There's a just a regular guy we've never met. By the way, intentionally, I wanted to be somebody. Cause some of the guys that we know also bought stuff. It was somebody that we don't know. Okay. That is gonna be on and And you called him. We have a picture. Out of the blue.

• 11:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, out of the blue. I called him. He was shell shocked. Amazing. And I don't know if I have the video somewhere around here. We'll try to find it and show it to you. All right, let's get into it. Rob, what is the top story that they're asking for us to talk about?

• 11:57Speaker 05

  Uh, Dan Bongino's retirement or leaving the FBI.

• 12:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Let's talk about that. So Dan Bongino, okay? Who was the deputy director of the FBI? Steps down, uh, with room and replacement waiting in the wings. Dan Bongino, a man who is, uh, uh, loved by his audience. This is him saying it yesterday. I will be leaving my position with the FBI in January. I want to thank President Trump, A.G. Bondi, Patel for the opportunity to serve with purpose. Most importantly, I want to thank you, my fellow Americans, for the privilege to serve you, God bless America, and all of you, uh, all of those who defend her is Dan Bongino. Tom, what do you think about this, uh, him stepping down here? Did you expect it? Are you surprised? Was it him? Or Patel? Was it one of the two? What are your thoughts?

• 12:44Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, if you asked me a year ago, I would say right now I'm very surprised, but I sort of expected it as you saw the year unfold. Dan Bongino is a man of deep, narrow principles. And what I mean by that is he has his principles and they're not for sale. And he's very direct about that. And when you come to the FBI, which is like this sausage making machine, with all of these interests and all of these people, and we've heard about Comey, we've heard about how the FBI Works. You could see the frustration in Dan Bongino when he would have certain interviews. You could absolutely see it coming out because it's hard to be a direct control. You could be a DA in the city of Los Angeles and have direct control over your team.

• 13:27Tom Ellsworth?

  The FBI is so far reaching, so many things going on. I think Bongino discovered what a broad and maybe a little corrupt here and here organization it was, and he really has a deep set principles, very neuro focused. And I think that just kind of ground on him, Pat. I think that's what happened. You saw over the course of the year, maybe some of the light come out of his eyes and you could see like a heaviness in him. And I think that finally got to him. And so a year ago, I would have been surprised, but I kind of saw it coming over these months. And that, that, I called it this way, maybe it wasn't very nice of me, but when I said that when he and Cash Patel were talking about, you know, some things regarding Epstein, you know, I called it, wow, that almost looks like a hostage video.

• 14:11Patrick Bet-David?

  I was just right.

• 14:12Tom Ellsworth?

  They are treating me very nice and I eat every day. And I was like, that's kind of weird. So that's how I feel.

• 14:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I think everybody remembers that clip of what happened. That's the one right there, Rob. If you want to make it bigger and, yeah, go straight to it. I'm glad you're doing that. So this is all the way at the end. Go ahead, Rob.

• 14:31Speaker 07

  It's a big deal.

• 14:33Adam Sosnick?

  He killed himself. Again, you want me to, I've, I've seen the whole, he killed himself.

• 14:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, so that's the part with him. And then President had to, had something to say about it with Dan Bongino. 11 second clip. Go forward, Rob.

• 14:50Speaker 08

  Oh, Dan, Dan did a great job. I think he wants to go back to his show.

• 14:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Vinny.

• 15:00Speaker 04

  And again, because we don't know everything and I don't know the inside, just that we had the conversation yesterday. I don't know my, my, if I had to assume, I mean, him with the platform that he had and all the stuff that he was talking about with Cash, it felt like, remember the people like me that were like, yes, we're finally going to get something. I think when he came in and he saw what was going on and he was like, oh my Goodness, like, and they told him basically, hey, listen, this is where this this stops right here. Your passion, your push, all the stuff that you talked about on the show, we're not, you're gonna be going out to these bad guys. But these guys, you can't do that. And he looked, and that's proof that that video for anybody that knows body language or the way speech. That didn't look like it was him speaking, especially not the guy from the podcast.

• 15:43Speaker 04

  That was not the Dan Bongino that we know. Um, and I just feel like it took a while. Remember it was a couple of months ago when I said it was, I want to say five, six months ago when I said, if somebody comes in and as a Christian, a proud Christian, and you're not supposed to be afraid, obviously faith over fear. If you see something like that and people are abusing and you're told not to talk about it because X, Y, and Z are powerful. And then guess what? You should have walked away earlier. I'm happy that it's happening if that's what it is. But he should have walked away. I'm very curious to what the podcast is going to be like now. Because A, when you go on the FBI, Tom, you can't talk about your, your nondisclosure. You can't say anything. So is it gonna be like a, well, I can't say nothing, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

• 16:25Speaker 04

  And is it gonna be one of those allure Candace type podcasts where it's like, I can't say, but maybe this and maybe that. I, I, I'm, I hope the best for him, but it's, it's, it's not a good look.

• 16:35Tom Ellsworth?

  More than you can't say anything. There was a leak that came out that he and Pam Bondi got into it.

• 16:39Speaker 04

  I heard there was an argument.

• 16:40Tom Ellsworth?

  But he's like, wait, why are we, why are we holding these files? Why are we doing this? And she apparently drew a line and said, Dan, this is the way we're doing it.

• 16:47Speaker 04

  Yep.

• 16:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam.

• 16:48Adam Sosnick?

  Well, number one, Dan Bongino is a patriot and all the people out there that think he's been compromised and, oh my God, we can't trust him now. Check yourself before you wreck yourself. This guy has been for decades an American patriot. Just because he comes into the FBI as deputy director behind Cash Patel, all of a sudden, everything that he's ever done is compromised? To me, that's BS.

• 17:09Speaker 04

  Well, who said that? Who said everything?

• 17:10Adam Sosnick?

  A lot of people said that, including.

• 17:12Speaker 04

  No, I didn't.

• 17:12Adam Sosnick?

  Including.

• 17:13Speaker 04

  Wait, wait, wait. No, no.

• 17:14Adam Sosnick?

  Including you.

• 17:14Speaker 04

  Don't misspeak for me. Don't say I said everything.

• 17:16Adam Sosnick?

  Listen, tough guy. Do I start ranting and raving when you're ranting and raving?

• 17:20Speaker 04

  Am I, wait, am I lying to, am I lying about you while you're talking?

• 17:24Adam Sosnick?

  You're not even talking about you. Why are you making this about yourself? Faith over fear, buddy. I have zero fear about you.

• 17:29Speaker 04

  Okay, go ahead, go ahead.

• 17:30Adam Sosnick?

  Shut it.

• 17:31Speaker 04

  Go ahead, let you finish. Go ahead.

• 17:32Tom Ellsworth?

  Three days of Hanukkah. Get the fighting over now.

• 17:35Adam Sosnick?

  As I was saying, Dan Bongino, American patriot. Number two, this is what happens when an outsider comes in, peeks behind the curtain and goes, oh. Gotcha. Let me kind of fall in line on this one because what you don't know, it's like kind of like the famous Cuomo phrase, you know, you campaign in poetry and then you govern in prose. Once you see what's really going down behind the scenes, you kind of have to act accordingly. What I'm most interested in is, he's gonna go back to his show. I think he's a major partner in Rumble. So what are the odds that he's gonna have a show again?

• 18:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, ASAP.

• 18:07Adam Sosnick?

  Most likely.

• 18:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 18:08Adam Sosnick?

  So do you think he's a truth teller? I do. Is he gonna tell the whole truth, nothing but the truth of what he got? Most likely, what remains to be seen, to put him in the category of Candace of just asking questions and making up conspiracies. This is a real person with real credibility, with real knowledge. I'm excited to see what he has to say. He's not gonna do bullshit speculating. He's gonna give you the real facts. That's my opinion.

• 18:30Speaker 04

  But you're, but you're, but saying everything that he's ever done, I don't think, who questioned everything that he's ever said? We're saying the stuff that the main thing that he was on his show constantly talking about was the Epstein files. And then once he gets in, you know, the main thing he did, Adam, was redact the Epstein files.

• 18:46Adam Sosnick?

  And why do you think he did that?

• 18:47Speaker 04

  Redacted all the names of all the people.

• 18:48Adam Sosnick?

  And why do you think he did that?

• 18:49Speaker 04

  Why do you think? Cause he was told to. It's not a conspiracy, Adam.

• 18:52Adam Sosnick?

  Well, let's see what, let's see what he says on his show.

• 18:54Speaker 04

  He can't say anything on the show. That's the problem. That's the problem. Please don't act.

• 18:58Adam Sosnick?

  Why, why are you acting so definitively like you have the answers? Go to vinyhavetheanswer.com and find out the bullshit that you're holding.

• 19:07Speaker 04

  Anybody that's watching, the people in this room, didn't I say at the beginning, I don't know.

• 19:11Adam Sosnick?

  Perfect. You should just stop there.

• 19:13Speaker 04

  No, no. Adam, this is a show where you have opinions.

• 19:15Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, I know.

• 19:15Speaker 04

  You have yours. My opinion is, the guy, the Christian guy that's talking about the Epstein, Epstein, Epstein, came in and it was, and it was this. Like somebody had a gun. He goes, he killed himself. Give me a break, Adam.

• 19:27Adam Sosnick?

  Okay, so you find Dan Bongino to lack credibility?

• 19:30Speaker 04

  In that, in that story and that's, yes, I do.

• 19:33Adam Sosnick?

  Well, there you go.

• 19:34Speaker 04

  And that's fine. And guess what?

• 19:35Adam Sosnick?

  So he'll answer that on his podcast.

• 19:36Speaker 04

  And you're not gonna get anything, Adam, cause guess what? The most powerful people in the world are those people. And that's my opinion.

• 19:43Adam Sosnick?

  Well, I happen to think he has a little more credibility than you're giving him.

• 19:46Speaker 04

  He has credit. He was a Secret Service member. Okay, Adam.

• 19:48Patrick Bet-David?

  There is, there is a lot of, one time we had James O'Keefe here and he said something.

• 19:53Adam Sosnick?

  Stuck, by the way.

• 19:53Patrick Bet-David?

  He said, if you, he says, sometimes he says, I try to not get too close and become too friendly with all these guys. And I said, tell me why. He says, because once you do, you can't call them out. Like when he called Pam Bondi and he's like, hey, you said this, we have the recording.

• 20:09Adam Sosnick?

  Yup.

• 20:10Patrick Bet-David?

  I have to release it. And then she got ahead of it and she went and said, we have tens of thousands of hours of all this other stuff, right? So, you know, I think i-if you're in media, if you choose to go in, it's almost impossible or hard to get back into politics. However, a lot have done it. A lot of people have done it. He, this is not, I don't know how many people have gotten this high of a job and then go back into media, where was this public of a thing that you were against with vocal?

• 20:43Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 20:43Patrick Bet-David?

  So that's the part. Let's see how he's gonna handle it. You know, yesterday we had a guy that came over there telling me about, you know, they want to be able to give away bibles to people that are being deported. I said, how are you gonna frame that? The guy's like, what do you mean? It's a Christian organization. We gave, you know, some money to this year. I'm not gonna mention them because it was a private conversation. Says, the people that are being deported, we want to give them a bible on the way out and we're working with the government right now to give them a bible. I said, okay, let's role play the script.

• 21:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Ice came and arrested me. I got handcuffs behind my back. Give me the bible. How are you gonna hand it to me? Do you understand what just happened right there? I don't know if you understand what I'm saying.

• 21:22Adam Sosnick?

  You're gonna tuck it in his pants?

• 21:23Patrick Bet-David?

  He was like, look, man, you know, I think it's gonna be fine. On your way out here, let me put this under your arms.

• 21:28Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, they tucked the bible under your arms.

• 21:29Patrick Bet-David?

  God loves you.

• 21:29Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 21:30Patrick Bet-David?

  But he loves you in Mexico.

• 21:31Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 21:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay.

• 21:33Adam Sosnick?

  Of way.

• 21:35Patrick Bet-David?

  But by the way, there's a part of it that's being funny, but there's a part of it that's real, right? Banji has to come back and in his mind, all he's thinking about is, for months, I bet, how am I gonna frame the one question everybody's thinking about? He's thinking all about framing right now, how he's gonna present it.

• 21:54Adam Sosnick?

  Sir, let me ask you a question. And I don't trust anybody 100%, just like Trump said about, uh,

• 21:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 21:59Adam Sosnick?

  Uh, I don't remember who he said. He's like, you trust him 100%, I don't trust anybody 100%. Level of trust and credibility you think Bongino has, are you at 80%, you at 90, you at 50/50? Overall with Bongino?

• 22:09Patrick Bet-David?

  No, I, I think Bongino's a very fair player. I think he's a straight up player. I think he's all around, very capable. I think this is a very, very technical, complicated topic that the average person cannot deal with, especially somebody that is a very, very strong Christian. This is a very difficult thing to do, to have this type of a, access to this type of information. It isn't for everybody. I think Cash can do it, because I think Cash has got a cold side to him, where it's a, what do you call it? A, you, you have to be a part of vicious, ice cold, like cutthroat. I think Cash got some side of that. I don't think that's Bond.

• 22:53Adam Sosnick?

  What's the term you use to describe Trump?

• 22:57Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't know.

• 22:57Adam Sosnick?

  No, you basically were saying like, you have to be ice cold.

• 23:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, you have to be, yeah.

• 23:02Adam Sosnick?

  Maybe that was the word.

• 23:02Patrick Bet-David?

  I think Cash has got the ice cold side. I don't think Bongino does. This is not a diss. This is, some people can actually take this as a compliment.

• 23:10Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 23:11Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't know if you understand what I'm saying to you. Like, it's, it's a form of a compliment.

• 23:14Adam Sosnick?

  And to Bongino or to Cash?

• 23:15Patrick Bet-David?

  It's actually a form of a compliment to both.

• 23:18Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, yeah.

• 23:18Patrick Bet-David?

  You either have it or you don't have it. It's not an easy thing to fake.

• 23:22Adam Sosnick?

  Bongino's an emotional guy. He's cried on camera multiple times, but he's a man's man.

• 23:26Speaker 04

  How much of this, and I have to go back to faith, Cash isn't a Christian, he doesn't answer to Jesus. Trump is not a Christian, he doesn't answer to Jesus. How, do you think a person in these positions, Pat, it's almost impossible to be a Christian and be able to do this type of stuff?

• 23:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Then don't take the job.

• 23:40Speaker 04

  That's what I'm saying.

• 23:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Then don't take the job. If somebody comes knocking on your door, and they say, Vinny, you know, I got a job for you to be the deputy director of the FBI.

• 23:49Speaker 04

  I wouldn't be able to do it if it's that type of stuff.

• 23:50Patrick Bet-David?

  There is no way you could do the job.

• 23:52Speaker 04

  No way, you're right, yeah.

• 23:52Patrick Bet-David?

  That job is not for you.

• 23:54Speaker 04

  I agree.

• 23:54Patrick Bet-David?

  It's not.

• 23:55Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 23:55Patrick Bet-David?

  So, that's the part to realize and say, like, for instance, there's being a founder of a business, there's being a CEO of an existing, established company, there's executive team, there's director, VP, support compliance.

• 24:11Patrick Bet-David?

  A lot of people want that founder next to their names. It's not for everybody. A lot of people want to be content creators and then they get one bad comment. Oh my God, they don't like me. I'm not talented. They stopped creating content. It's not for everybody. So anyways, I don't want to spend a lot of time on this. No, no, no. I want to, I want to continue.

• 24:30Adam Sosnick?

  It's called Trump, not a Christian.

• 24:31Speaker 04

  He's not.

• 24:32Adam Sosnick?

  He said it. Trump is Christian.

• 24:34Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm gonna go to this next story.

• 24:35Adam Sosnick?

  You don't think Trump is Christian?

• 24:36Patrick Bet-David?

  We can talk about this as we go to the next story. So yesterday, or two days ago, there was an event at the White House. Uh, uh, what was the events, uh?

• 24:44Adam Sosnick?

  It was the White House Hanukkah party.

• 24:46Patrick Bet-David?

  White House Hanukkah party, okay? So this White House Hanukkah party, Adam was at, uh, you know, who, who were some of the people that were there? Lutnik, Mark Levin, the president?

• 24:56Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, Howard Lutnik was there, Mark Levin, uh...

• 24:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Maybe put some of the pictures, Rob. So this is who?

• 25:01Adam Sosnick?

  Marla Maples, that was Mark Levin, and then that was actually one of Charlie Kirk's lawyers. Uh, my buddy Rob, great guy.

• 25:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Who else you got? Go to the next picture.

• 25:08Adam Sosnick?

  Marla Maples was there. I didn't, um, our friend, uh, Elizabeth Pippco was there. Uh, a lot of major influences there, Emily Austin. There was, uh, there was actually so many people. They had a three o'clock and a seven o'clock. So I was at the seven o'clock one, and so it was at night. Marla Maples, gorgeous, my friend Elvira right there, Jim. Uh, it was an amazing time and Trump was very gracious and, uh, amazing people.

• 25:32Patrick Bet-David?

  At this event, Miriam Adelson, okay? Who has a few dollars, uh, pledged to give 250, is this the video, Rob, of her saying it? She wants to give 250 million dollars, okay? For one reason, if one thing is possible, you ready? Back up a little bit, Rob. Okay, go ahead, Rob. Here we go.

• 26:00Speaker 09

  Well, uh, Mr. President, when you were in the Israeli parliament... And you gave a speech and you saw me from far away. You called, and I, at that time, I came with a scooter to the parliament just to hear you. I wanted to hear you alive. And then you said, "Miriam Adelson." And I stood for a second, but it was so painful, so I said. Then you screamed, "Miriam, stand up!" And I wish you would have known, but I stood up and heard all your compliment, and thank you very much.

• 26:31Speaker 08

  I saw you back there, standing.

• 26:32Speaker 09

  Yeah.

• 26:34Speaker 08

  She stood up bravely.

• 26:35Speaker 09

  And now I met Alan Dershowitz, and he said, "The legal thing about four more years." And I said, "Alan, I agree with you, so we can do it." Think about it.

• 26:48Speaker 08

  Alan's here, someplace. Where's Alan?

• 26:50Speaker 09

  Alan is here, oh, he had a flight.

• 26:54Speaker 09

  Alan is here?

• 26:57Patrick Bet-David?

  So, you can pause it right there. So she committed, pledged to $250 million, if we can do four more years. And in Mark Levin, there's a scene with Mark Levin that he said the following. Rob, if you want to pull up that clip, this is Vinnie's favorite. This is a scene of Mark Levin going around the president. Go ahead, Rob.

• 27:15Speaker 08

  And these people do like Israel. Hold on.

• 27:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Hold on.

• 27:21Speaker 08

  And he loves Israel, too. That's true.

• 27:26Speaker 04

  Well, look at him, manhandling him.

• 27:28Speaker 08

  Six years ago, I was up here. And I said, "This is our first Jewish president."

• 27:36Speaker 08

  Now he's the first Jewish president to serve two.

• 27:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so Mark Levin. Levin. Levin, yeah, Levin, Levin. So, you know, that event's taking place, a bunch of things are happening. Adam, tell us the context of this event.

• 27:51Adam Sosnick?

  So, number one with Miriam Adelson. Let's understand that the media narrative doesn't understand one key word: sarcasm.

• 28:00Adam Sosnick?

  Miriam Adelson is actually the only person who had a seat at the event. Paul Gosar, Representative Paul Gosar, if you ever see this, thank you. Actually, we were having a conversation. She goes, you want to come with me to the green room? We go into the green room. I meet Howard Lutnick, great guy. Steve Winkoff's there, awesome people there. I'm talking with, sort of like the who's who, Marla Maples all there. Everyone's standing. It's a packed room, 500 people. I'm up in the first 50 people in the room. And Miriam Adelson is sitting right there. And he's giving shout outs to everybody as if you're like, what up, what up, what up? And certain people he called up on the stage. Miriam Adelson, he calls up, she's sitting down, she comes up. It's sarcasm. If you play the clip that I actually sent, he basically said,

• 28:44Adam Sosnick?

  "She gave me $250 million, but we all know 250 ain't what it used to be." It's sarcasm. And even called out the fake news in the back. He goes, "They're gonna write about this, they're gonna spin it, they're gonna talk trash." It's sort of a joke. Now, do I think Trump is gonna run in 2028? I don't. Are there people that would love to see it? I'm sure. He brought her on stage. If you give $250 million, you're gonna get a little stage time. That's kind of how it works. Of course. So she was being sarcastic, he was being sarcastic. But the idiots in the back of the room, I guess, don't understand sarcasm and jokes. I don't think he's running again. But essentially, what she was saying is, if you do, I'll cut the check. That's my opinion.

• 29:28Adam Sosnick?

  You want to show that clip? Because he didn't play the initial part of it, when he goes, "It's not what it used to be." He was talking about $250 million. Do you have that?

• 29:40Adam Sosnick?

  That's my goofy laugh.

• 29:45Adam Sosnick?

  So, anyway, what he did say was, "This is a woman who loved her husband deeply. They are from Israel, American Israelis." And here's what I'll say about Trump with Israel. Trump is a Christian.

• 29:57Speaker 04

  Hold on, stop. Rob, can you play that clip really fast? Because Adam, when you say stuff like that with no proof, I have to prove it. Go ahead, go ahead.

• 30:04Speaker 08

  And again, Christians, get out and vote. Just this time.

• 30:09Speaker 04

  Are you ready for this, Adam? Stay tuned.

• 30:12Speaker 08

  You won't have to do it anymore. Four more years, you know what? It'll be fixed, it'll be fine. You won't have to vote anymore, my beautiful Christians. I love you, Christians. I'm not Christian. I love you. Get out.

• 30:24Speaker 04

  Can you wait, play that part again, rewind, rewind.

• 30:26Speaker 08

  I love you, Christians. I'm not Christian.

• 30:28Speaker 04

  I'm not Christian. Stop it. Adam, he's not Christian.

• 30:33Adam Sosnick?

  So what religion is Trump?

• 30:34Speaker 04

  He doesn't have a religion. He doesn't have a religion.

• 30:36Adam Sosnick?

  Presbyterian.

• 30:37Speaker 04

  Adam.

• 30:38Adam Sosnick?

  Google it.

• 30:38Speaker 04

  Hold on a second.

• 30:39Adam Sosnick?

  Okay.

• 30:40Speaker 04

  The, he just said, to prove you wrong.

• 30:43Adam Sosnick?

  Okay.

• 30:43Speaker 04

  I'm not Christian, and you're still gonna defend that he's a Christian.

• 30:47Adam Sosnick?

  Trump was raised Presbyterian, but now identifies as non-denominational Christian.

• 30:51Speaker 04

  He just said I'm not a.

• 30:52Adam Sosnick?

  So should I trust what Trump has?

• 30:54Speaker 04

  Chat GPT.

• 30:55Adam Sosnick?

  Okay.

• 30:55Speaker 04

  It came out of his mouth. Go ahead, Adam. Adam, Adam, can you just say you're wrong?

• 30:59Adam Sosnick?

  So what do you think he is, tough guy?

• 31:01Speaker 04

  I don't know. I'm not, I'm very tough.

• 31:02Adam Sosnick?

  What do you think he is?

• 31:03Speaker 04

  The, he, Adam.

• 31:04Adam Sosnick?

  He was raised in a Presbyterian church.

• 31:06Speaker 04

  Am I taking crazy pills?

• 31:07Adam Sosnick?

  Just because he doesn't.

• 31:08Speaker 04

  He says I'm not Christian.

• 31:09Adam Sosnick?

  He's not as Christian as you would like him to be. What do you think he is?

• 31:12Speaker 04

  You're defending something that just came out of someone's mouth. Continue with your story. I'll sit back.

• 31:17Adam Sosnick?

  Well.

• 31:17Speaker 04

  I'll, I'll sit back.

• 31:19Adam Sosnick?

  What was the question? Vinnie, get off your, get off your high horse.

• 31:22Speaker 04

  Okay, my high horse.

• 31:23Adam Sosnick?

  If people aren't as Christian as you would like them to be.

• 31:25Speaker 04

  Now you see how the argument, see how the argument just changed? I just proved you wrong, and now you're making it about me. Continue with your story.

• 31:31Adam Sosnick?

  How did you prove me wrong?

• 31:32Speaker 04

  He's not Christian.

• 31:33Adam Sosnick?

  Because he's Presbyterian.

• 31:34Speaker 04

  We Chat GPT'd it. You think, you think he prays to Jesus Christ and he's giving himself to God?

• 31:39Adam Sosnick?

  I, I don't know.

• 31:41Speaker 04

  Adam, just go with the story, bro.

• 31:41Adam Sosnick?

  I don't know.

• 31:42Speaker 04

  I just proved you wrong.

• 31:43Adam Sosnick?

  But I don't know. No, you don't. You're, you're doing the Candace thing. You're just throwing bullshit out there.

• 31:47Speaker 04

  Now it's Candace. I just showed you.

• 31:49Adam Sosnick?

  Vinnie, I get it. You got a cool shirt. Relax.

• 31:52Speaker 04

  Here's the deal. I want everybody to understand what's happening right now.

• 31:54Adam Sosnick?

  Trump is a Christian.

• 31:55Speaker 04

  It's so funny.

• 31:56Adam Sosnick?

  Who is very, very friendly with Jews.

• 31:58Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 31:58Adam Sosnick?

  And I'll, I'll tell you why, if you shut up for a second.

• 32:01Speaker 04

  You're wrong.

• 32:02Adam Sosnick?

  He told a story about his dad.

• 32:03Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 32:04Adam Sosnick?

  You ever hear the story? Or do you just wanna pretend that you do? He told a story about his dad, who was, he was his role model. He said he would go around with him, all around town, trying to look into property. Manhattan was way more expensive than Brooklyn and Queens. And we go around meeting all these people. And he said some of his dad's closest friends were Jewish people. And because Trump such admired his dad, they were very close with Jewish people. He said there, I'm not Jewish, but yeah, I'd love you guys, basically. So I don't know if you're inferring that he's a different religion than he has been his entire life. The problem that you're basically identifying is he is Christian, Presbyterian, however you want to frame it, that is friends with the Jews.

• 32:48Adam Sosnick?

  And that is exactly what he said, word for word. That's it.

• 32:53Speaker 04

  The words that I heard Adam was, I'm not a Christian. Tom, do you have any thoughts on this?

• 32:57Tom Ellsworth?

  I just bought VinnieHasTheAnswer.com, so I'm.

• 33:00Adam Sosnick?

  Nobody subscribe it.

• 33:01Tom Ellsworth?

  I'm gonna.

• 33:02Speaker 04

  All right.

• 33:04Adam Sosnick?

  Look.

• 33:06Adam Sosnick?

  Do you think Trump is Christian?

• 33:08Tom Ellsworth?

  Yes, yes, I do. When he says, I'm not a Christian, I don't understand the context.

• 33:13Speaker 04

  And he says he's not going to heaven, but go ahead.

• 33:15Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, you know what? This is a guy that talks about, talks about faith, talks about things, you know? And what he says for himself, he says for himself. But he's surrounded with an awful lot of people that are of faith, that pray over him and talk with him. So I have a hard time believing that in his heart of hearts, there's zero there. I don't, I don't believe that. You know, do you, is he out there on stage proclaiming and giving, you know, homilies or, you know, devotionals? No, but I have a hard time believing that there's nothing there. I hear what he says. I understand what you're saying. I hear what Adam's saying and I, how can you go through what he's gone through, nearly getting shot and everything?

• 33:58Tom Ellsworth?

  And, and not have some level of faith or understanding about that higher power?

• 34:02Adam Sosnick?

  Fully agree with Tom.

• 34:03Speaker 04

  I think that moment made him go, oh my goodness. Yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm not denying none of that. I'm not saying, which Adam, you're inferring that I'm thinking he's not as Christian as me. That's BS. What I'm saying is when a guy says he's not Christian, says he's not going to heaven. Okay. And I don't care about the Jewish angle. I'm saying, where does that come out of his mouth? If Pat right now says, you know, I'm a murderer, okay? I killed people and then you say no, he's never, no, he's not. And I show you a clip of Pat going, I am a murderer. I've killed people. Who's right and who's wrong? He said it. I'm not Christian. I'm not going to heaven.

• 34:38Adam Sosnick?

  I'm sure we can find multiple clips of him being a man of faith.

• 34:42Speaker 04

  Adam, you don't think-

• 34:42Adam Sosnick?

  So you're taking one clip.

• 34:44Speaker 04

  I don't think-

• 34:44Adam Sosnick?

  And then you're just using this as your narrative.

• 34:46Speaker 04

  It's not one clip. It's a word.

• 34:47Adam Sosnick?

  I respect the fact of you frame it and just say, in my opinion. To say this fact is absolute BS.

• 34:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, alright.

• 34:53Adam Sosnick?

  Do you think he's a Christian, Pat?

• 34:55Patrick Bet-David?

  I think, you know, at Turning Point USA event, when he said, his Lord and Savior.

• 34:59Speaker 04

  Meaning what, Pat?

• 35:00Patrick Bet-David?

  His Lord, not mine, but his Lord. Charlie's, Lord and Savior. And I don't know if, you know, uh, uh, you know, he grew up going to the Norman Vincent Peale Church, the Power of Positive Thinking Church, which was a very well-known one in New York. That he would go to and listen to his message because Norman Vincent Peale was more like a motivational speaker. He was like, uh, uh, the, the, the old school 50 years ago's, uh, uh, uh, what do you call it? Who's the guy from Houston that, Joel Osteen?

• 35:32Adam Sosnick?

  Joel Osteen, yeah.

• 35:32Patrick Bet-David?

  He was like the OG Joel Osteen. He was such a great speaker from stage, great orator, and he used to go there to New York to, to listen to this guy. He passed away in 93, which is 32 years ago. So this is the era he comes from and this guy was phenomenal. If you've never read the book, The Power of Positive Thinking, you should. I don't know whether he is or not. I can only tell you what I've heard him say. And to me, I don't know. I think he is a extreme professional politician. Uh, in that scene, when I'm looking at that, uh, uh, I would be very uncomfortable if somebody put their arms around me like that. You, I, I would, I, Jennifer would be like, somebody go whisper to that man, take your arms over the guy's shoulders.

• 36:11Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 36:12Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm not, I don't like that. But, uh, the president was gracious, uh, grace, you know, gracious where he allowed that thing to happen. And even though Mark crossed the line a little bit, you don't do that publicly. You can do that privately. With no camera being on, if there's that kind of a relationship, you don't ever do that publicly with the camera being on because the enemy's watching. I'm just not a fan of that behavior. That that makes me uncomfortable, but maybe that's just me and nobody else was even thinking about that. I don't like you putting your arms around the president and shaking him that way. That's not your position to do something like that. Off camera, do it on camera. I don't like that. But all the other stuff, listen, you gotta give this guy credit. He went to Detroit and got Muslims to endorse him. He went and got Jews.

• 36:53Patrick Bet-David?

  He went and got, he got, he got the freaking Teamster president who in 121 years they've never, ever gone to the RNC. Okay, Sean O'Brien. And he had the audacity to allow the guy to speech and he got up and trash capitalism. This is a very different kind of a guy. He's not everybody's guy. But maybe at a time like this, you need a guy like him to lead because you know, to do and deal with all the shit that's going on, you need a little bit of cutthroat mentality. And he's got it. Trust me, like when you, when you think about certain people, Mike Huckabee. Is he a good guy? He's probably a good guy. Raised a good daughter who became a governor. Yes, he's probably a good guy. Do I want him as a president? No. Why not?

• 37:37Patrick Bet-David?

  You're not cutthroat enough for me. Because you know, these rooms, you have, you have to be able to have one conversation, you're being diplomatic. Next conversation, Mike, we gotta make a tough call. So I don't know. I think the profile of who he is as a leader, I'm very happy with him. I saw a lot of messages this week with

• 37:55Patrick Bet-David?

  the president has lost it. I'm so disappointed in him. I'm so disappointed in what he's doing, you know, he is exactly what, you know, I didn't vote, but I voted. Okay, bro. Relax. Pump the brakes. Yeah. You go, go, go ahead and go ahead and have Kamala your president today. Go ahead. You know, go, go ahead and have Biden be your president today. No. I think he's the right guy for the job today. And that $250 million, I do think it was a 50/50 joke. Meaning, I do think 50%, if she could, she would do it.

• 38:23Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, she would.

• 38:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I know, that's what I'm saying to you.

• 38:26Adam Sosnick?

  I don't think he's running again.

• 38:27Patrick Bet-David?

  I know, but it's 50/50. No, he's not running again, not because you think he's not running again because he doesn't want to run again, or do you think he's not running again because he can't?

• 38:34Adam Sosnick?

  Because of the law.

• 38:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I know.

• 38:35Adam Sosnick?

  I mean, I was actually literally standing next to Alan Dershowitz when he called him out and Alan actually just left the room.

• 38:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 38:40Adam Sosnick?

  But can I just agree with you in a second?

• 38:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 38:42Adam Sosnick?

  There's a lot of People out there, they're trying to make their name, trying to tear down Trump, whether that's on the left or even that's on the woke right, as they call it. Here's what I'll give you, my opinion. We were all fed a bowl of lies, that Trump is a Russian asset, he doesn't love America, that he's selfish, he's all doing this for the real estate. Being in the White House was an incredible honor. Being around Trump in his orbit was incredible. The man loves America. There's no one more engaging and friendly and cool and fun that's playful, but also serious. He gives this amazing speech, has fun, it's a party, the next day goes out and crushes this 20-minute speech, talking about how America's gonna

• 39:24Adam Sosnick?

  be great again, and 2026 is gonna be the greatest years of our lives. And talking about the Olympics, and talking about the World Cup, and talking about America's 250th birthday. The man is a badass, he's a hard hat, everyman billionaire. That's very hard to do. To be able to put on a hard hat and talk to every single guy out there, but also be a billionaire and not be detached from the average guy's affordability issues is a very unique quality. And as someone that did not like Trump 10 years ago, I'm a massive fan, and I think most people should wake up and realize, the guy's the best president of our generation.

• 39:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, there you go. Thank you, sir. Sounds good. Let's go to the next one here. Next story I want to get to here is, Rob, let's go to Turning Point USA. Turning Point USA is having their annual Amfest event, sold out. They shared some numbers of what happened, some record-breaking numbers that I believe Erica shared with the entire audience of what's happened with new chapters, what's happened with people joining, what's happened with, you know, the amount of new kids that have gotten involved in the entire organization. Let me see if I can pull up this number here to give you some of the stats. The numbers are unbelievable of what she was sharing

• 40:40Patrick Bet-David?

  with everybody in the audience. Do you have that, Rob, or no? Anyways, it was like a million kids joined, you know, 3,000 new chapters created around the world. The amount of money that was, you know, sent in from people around the world, just record-breaking all across the board.

• 40:56Adam Sosnick?

  I have it.

• 40:57Patrick Bet-David?

  You have it? Is this her giving the update?

• 40:58Adam Sosnick?

  Yep.

• 40:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, right, there's zoom in a little bit, Rob? Okay, that's actually not Baron Trump, it's just accounts called Baron Trump News. Uh, Erica just dropped her numbers. Fifty TPUSA chapters opened every day, opening every day. Eight thousand plus church partnerships, one hundred and forty thousand requests to join. One million students involved, three thousand Club America chapters, fourteen hundred college chapters. I mean, this is extremely impressive. Now, can they keep the momentum going or not? There's a lot of people that behind closed doors are gonna be doing everything in their power to make sure this momentum continues, but it's gonna rise and fall all on leadership. Rob, what speeches, is this Erica giving a speech?

• 41:37Speaker 05

  This is her talking about those numbers.

• 41:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Numbers. What else do you have? Let's go with the Ben Shapiro one. So Ben Shapiro gets up, and I watched the entire speech, and it was a straight-up call-out. It wasn't like he came up, you know, it was all intentional, it was all written, it was all clear, and it was targeted at mainly three people, but mainly two people, okay? And here's Ben Shapiro. Go ahead, Rob.

• 42:05Speaker 10

  So, for example, if you host a Hitler-apologist, Nazi-loving, anti-American piece of refuse like Nick Fuentes, you know the Nick Fuentes who said that the Vice President of the United States is a, quote, "fat gay race traitor married to a cheat"? The person who said that Charlie Kirk was a, quote, "retarded idiot"? The person who said, and pardon my language here, it's his quote, that he, quote, "took Turning Point USA and fucked it, and that's why it's filled with grippers"?

• 42:38Speaker 10

  If you have that person on your show and you proceed to glaze him, you ought to own it. There is a reason that Charlie Kirk despised Nick Fuentes, and indeed even chided to Nesta Souza for debating him. He knew that Nick Fuentes is an evil troll, and that building him up is an act of moral imbecility. And that is precisely what Tucker Carlson did. He built Nick Fuentes up, and he ought to take responsibility for that, just as he ought to. ...to take responsibility for glazing pornographer and alleged sex trafficker Andrew Tate, or for mainstreaming fake historian and pseudo-Nazi apologist Daryl Cooper as America's best and most honest popular historian.

• 43:23Speaker 10

  Hosts are indeed responsible for the guests they choose and the questions they ask those guests.

• 43:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so that's Ben. Then, and we know who Ben is calling out, like it's not even funny who it's calling, it's clear. He's gonna just blow the t-shirt.

• 43:44Adam Sosnick?

  I don't know if we have the clips, he directly called out Candace multiple times by name, called out Tucker several times, and obviously there was Nick Fuentes. Those were the big three you were referring to, Pat?

• 43:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes, yes, yes.

• 43:54Adam Sosnick?

  Candace was probably the biggest recipient of his discouragement.

• 43:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Probably, but I think the leader of the call-out is Tucker, is who's calling out. So then this is Tucker, go for it.

• 44:06Adam Sosnick?

  Because Tucker was there, Candace wasn't, right?

• 44:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes, go for it.

• 44:09Speaker 11

  I just got here and I feel like I missed the first part of the program. I hope I didn't miss anything meaningful. But I just want to say, I don't think I did. No, I'm just kidding. I watched it. I laughed. I laughed, that kind of bitter, sardonic laugh that emerges from you when like upside-down world arrives. When your dog starts doing your taxes and you're like, wait, it's not supposed to work this way. To hear calls for like deplatforming and denouncing people at a Charlie Kirk event, I'm like, what? This is hilarious. Yeah, this is hilarious. Actually, one of the clips, I was listening to myself, thinking as I often do when I hear myself speak,

• 44:53Speaker 11

  which is never, because I never watch myself, but at these events, they always play like the role of you. And I'm like, that guy is pompous, woo! Sorry about that. We don't see ourselves clearly.

• 45:05Speaker 11

  But the prediction that, you know, at some point when Republicans took power again, which I did everything I could, you know, to help, and really felt that was important. I still think, you know, I was right. But I really thought that the impulse to deplatform people, or even to use the word "platform" as a verb, which it's not, it's a noun, don't steal my nouns, deplatform and denounce, why haven't you denounced somebody else, the whole like Red Guard Cultural Revolution thing that we so hated and...

• 45:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Can pause it right there. Okay, so Tucker gives a speech, Ben gives his speech, you've heard both of them, where are you at?

• 45:44Adam Sosnick?

  So, the basic premise of Ben's speech is that truth matters. And we all know that the World Economic Forum came out and said that the biggest concern in the world right now is misinformation and disinformation, and he basically called out certain people for peddling myth-truths, untruths, semi-truths, and then operating under the guise of, "I'm just asking questions." So to me, Ben was very clear, very direct. I was never a huge Ben Shapiro guy, and I was certainly never a big Tucker guy. But between both of them, they're legends, we get it. To me, this comes down to one word: midterms.

• 46:26Adam Sosnick?

  Who is helping coalesce, build a coalition around 11 months from now, we're gonna have another election? And is it, are you helping bring people together to win midterms, to help Donald Trump and his agenda, or are you trying to tear it down? So there's a lot of infighting within MAGA, and there's a lot of people on the left that would love to see Nick Fuentes and Candace and even Tucker be the face of the new MAGA establishment party. And in my opinion, Tucker, I'm sorry, Charlie Kirk wants no part of it. The last thing that I'll say is this, Ben said one thing, and I said it the other day about what the Torah says about criticizing a grieving widow.

• 47:11Adam Sosnick?

  Erica Kirk asked Candace to stop. Candace went on Pierce Morgan, she said, "I'm not gonna stop." As if she's the FBI and she's leading this investigation. So to me, at the very least, I'll say this. Ben is the same person he's been for 20 years that we've seen him on air. Tucker has flip flopped and he's fake. And now, because he's an American, he goes and buys a property in Qatar. Not in Detroit, not in Dallas, not in Boston, not in American cities. He's buying a house in Qatar and why? Cause he's American. God bless you Tucker. Vinny.

• 47:47Speaker 04

  Um, well, the WEF, I don't know that we were gonna, the World Economic Forum, I don't know, we're gonna be going by their guidance when it comes to disinformation and misinformation. Everything that they push from global warming, fake disinformation for COVID. You know, and now we're finding out that, you know, people are having cancer and kids are having heart problems and people are dying. And they lied to us. So I don't, I don't take any heat to the World Economic Forum, but if we're trying to worry about the

• 48:10Adam Sosnick?

  Are you saying that misinformation and disinformation isn't a thing?

• 48:13Speaker 04

  No, of course, of course. It's your job to go out there and look. That's why nobody trusts the media. That's why nobody trusts the government. Nobody trusts anybody. It's your job to go and look and find the information and fact check everything that you talk about. Just like how I did earlier in the show. My thing is this, Adam, if we're worrying about the midterms, why would Ben Shapiro go up and from a Turning Point USA in front of everybody, the youth, everybody's, I want motivate, I want something because the real enemy is the left. It's the Gavin Newsom's, it's the AOC's, it's all those people. Instead of using that 20 minutes to unite and say, guys, with all the differences, that's the mission, that's the enemy. You're gonna talk shit about two other people and three other people and just bash everybody. Okay?

• 48:55Adam Sosnick?

  The crowd, the crowd seemed to like it. They were cheering.

• 48:58Speaker 04

  Half and half, whatever booze and claps, I don't know, I wasn't there. It's just, that's your moment? That Charlie fought for people to have debate. Charlie fought, Charlie's whole mission was debate, talk, not deplatforming. He went to college campuses and said, okay, give me your argument. Not, I don't want to hear you and I want you. I think it's awesome that people are talking, that he talked to Nick Fuentes, that can't, let him talk. Let him sit in front of Steven Crowder and say his point. I learned more about him through his podcast than I ever knew about Nick Fuentes. I don't think that if you want to unite and worry about the midterms, that's not the way to do it. Okay, and then Tucker had to take his time out of his message and go against him too.

• 49:40Speaker 04

  By the way, I don't trust, when it comes to Tucker buying stuff in Qatar, that's the most random weirdest thing that didn't make any sense. I'm American, but I'm gonna buy land as a Christian, he's openly devout Christian, in a Muslim land. I don't believe it, I don't believe it. Somebody might be getting paid, but I just feel with everything that's happening, they missed the freaking mark. This should have been about America and the actual enemy because the Democrats are laughing their asses off. Period. That's my opinion.

• 50:08Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, a very reasonable take you just gave. Very reasonable take. Tom, your thoughts?

• 50:14Tom Ellsworth?

  So my thoughts is Charlie Kirk, I agree with your debate point. Charlie Kirk would go into the belly of the beast, go and put up that card table and put up that tent on college campuses and attempt to, and they say, what do you think about it? No, no, no, come here, no, no, I'll listen to you, tell me what you think. Now, why do you think that? Why do you think that? Well, I think there's an economist here and I think this is here. And he would engage in this civil debate that was getting people to think. And he was personally responsible for delivering Arizona and more. We saw him at the inauguration and he gave us some numbers. They registered the vote, more than 300,000 new voters in Arizona.

• 50:55Tom Ellsworth?

  And if you take a look and just say, say 60% of those, just 60, not more than that. Now, you know it has to be more than that, but let's just put 60% of those votes. Voted for Trump, 47. Guess what? He moved Arizona. Kerry Lake was in a war. You saw what was going on with that guy, Ruben Gallegos, whatever his name is. There was a war going on. It was neck and neck. There was all kinds of things. The governor was ignoring what was happening in terms of in these neighborhoods in Tucson, where you had these immigrants that had come across that were squatting and things that were happening. It was being ignored and people were flipping out. And yet, Arizona was razor thin. And guess what?

• 51:35Tom Ellsworth?

  Charlie Kirk and Turning Point USA registered to vote, 300,000 people who carried that state. And he did it. One card table, one person, one student, one debate at a time. And I think that an opportunity is missed to bring people together and talk through that. It's not that people don't have passionate points about, "I don't like the fact that you're talking to Nick. I don't think this. I don't think that." It's not that maybe there's some, those are individual points, that they have the freedom to have their points. And I'll die for the freedom for them to make those points. But I think there is a missed opportunity to bring this together because the midterms are critical, not because of our side, their side. Midterms are critical to move more thoughts and more hearts toward America and what it

• 52:20Tom Ellsworth?

  stands for with rational debate that moves people across the line. That's where I worry about the midterms and that's why I worry about it. And I just don't like to see this.

• 52:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 52:30Tom Ellsworth?

  I don't think it helps.

• 52:31Patrick Bet-David?

  So, to me, there's a couple of things here that I want to go through on both of them. One, when Ben Shapiro spoke, you know, you could tell he's speaking a lot of logic, prepared, intentional, you know, to the point, punchy. When Tucker spoke, Tucker's a more talented person than Ben Shapiro. It's not even close. Tucker is funny. Tucker is charming, charismatic, persuasive. He flirts with being manipulative as well, but persuasive. And he knows how to work the stage. He's talented. He's capable. Ben is brilliant. But Tucker is talented and capable.

• 53:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Tucker went emotion. Tucker went heart. Tucker talked love. He mentioned the word "love" 20 times. Ben is purely logic, okay, is what he's going to.

• 53:28Patrick Bet-David?

  So talent wise, Tucker's a better talent of delivering a good message. Not a question about it, okay? More educated, read all this stuff, maybe you put Ben there ahead of him. You know, he probably knows more about the Constitution and things like that. Yeah, you can put that category in there. Where was Ben right? The part that Ben was right in when he said, you know, even Charlie reached out to Dinesh and said, "Why would you debate Nick Fuentes?" Because in the debate between Dinesh and Nick, Nick won. I don't know if you guys saw the debate or not. Nick was a winner, he came out the winner of that debate between the two of them and Dinesh came out as the older guy that "I know what I'm talking about, you don't know who you are, you're a kid." And so Charlie's like, "What are you doing?"

• 54:11Patrick Bet-David?

  So as much as Charlie is for debate, Charlie wasn't for everybody. Because Nick was a disruptor to him. So even Charlie had lines, okay? On who we would have, Nick didn't speak at the event, okay? Nick is never spoken at this event.

• 54:28Adam Sosnick?

  I don't think he'll ever be invited to this event.

• 54:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, but what I'm trying to say to you is there's a reason why he didn't. So to that point, Ben has got a very, very good point on what he's saying with Charlie, okay? And what Candace and some of these other guys are doing with the topics. And then, by the way, you know who else Ben called out? Megyn Kelly. Ben also called out Megyn Kelly. There's a direct call out to Megyn Kelly. He says, "Look, I'm a big fan of Megyn Kelly." But even Megyn Kelly came out and said XYZ, and I'm not with that either. He says, "What do you mean? You know, all she's doing is, I don't know, maybe she's going through stuff with mom and all this other stuff."

• 54:59Adam Sosnick?

  About Candace.

• 55:00Patrick Bet-David?

  She's talking about Candace, yes. So I actually, I have to tell you, Ben came across as the more mature guy here. But it's like you're married to Ben, but you're attracted to Charlie.

• 55:20Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't know if that makes sense or not. It's like Ben is the husband, but Charlie's the guy you follow. You're like, dude, Charlie's a freaking, you know, not Charlie, what do you call it? Tucker is, I just kinda like him. You're attracted to Tucker. But you're married to Ben. Okay, because Ben is what? Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. I get that. In regards to, you know, Tucker, he got 45 minutes. Ben got 20. I think Ben probably donated his time. I think both of them probably donated their time. But if you look at the flyer, guess who Turning Point USA put as the first picture of speaker? It's Trump. Guess who's two? I don't know if Trump is speaking at this one or not. He may or may not be speaking at this event. He probably is. Can you put the poster, the big one, the second one, Rob?

• 56:04Patrick Bet-David?

  The second one, yeah. Zoom in. They put JD.

• 56:08Speaker 04

  JD.

• 56:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Then they put, no, the second one, Rob, the one you had, yeah. They put JD and then it's Erica and then it's Tucker. Then it's Bannon, then it's Junior, then it's Tulsi, then it's Megyn Kelly, then it's Jesse. Then it's, I can't see that face. Now, who's the guy before Ben? Rob, who is that guy?

• 56:25Speaker 04

  Greg Gutfeld.

• 56:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Greg Gutfeld. Then they put Ben. And what do you think that ranking of pictures is? You think it's just accidental by last name? No. It's by who has most influence today. JD is first. Erica chose that list and that ranking. That's who makes that call. So Erica still chose Tucker ahead of Ben by seven people. That's not accidental. So why is that? There's still a relationship there. Okay, there's still an affinity there. There's still behind the scenes where they have a love for Tucker. So don't get it twisted. One got 45, one got 20 for a reason. And even though Ben and them, I think they gave a million dollars to Turning Point USA, and they were the first ones to do the Charlie Kirk podcast.

• 57:10Patrick Bet-David?

  I think they were the first one that do it, if I'm not mistaken, Rob. It was Ben, it was Michael Knowles, and I think the crew showed up and with Andrew and, you know, Andrew and the crew, Andrew, how do you say his last name? Culvert?

• 57:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Culvert, yeah, Andrew Culvert. So, yeah, but by the way, this is the bigger thing to be thinking about. Is, there is, there is two philosophies here. The one philosophy is, they're all getting ready for something.

• 57:40Patrick Bet-David?

  They're all getting ready for something. It's it's power grabs right now. Who's gonna be the face of the conservative movement? It's a power grab. It's a fight. Who's gonna take it? I really don't think Tucker cares to take it. I don't think so either. Okay, and I don't think he's the guy. To be honest with you, I don't think he's the guy. Uh, I don't think he's the guy, I do think. I do think he is in so many people's ear. And he he is so if he wants to. There was a guy I did business with. He was very good at. The following line, you ready? So good at doing this. And then one day he called and he and I had a conversation about it.

• 58:21Patrick Bet-David?

  He would call and say, so that we say, oh, my God, you see what Patrick's doing, see what Patrick's doing, see what Patrick's doing, PHP? See how much it's grown and insurance industry was like, we were the conversation of town. And everyone's like, holy shit, this thing's growing. You say, yeah, but.

• 58:36Patrick Bet-David?

  They're doing great, but. Oh, the yeah, but guys? And and so and so he created wedges. Is that the right word, Tom? Is that wedges like? Yeah. Against others, I do think Tucker's playing that game. Little shades here and here. I do think Tucker's like, yeah, be careful with that guy. Be careful with this guy. And I think he's doing that. Behind closer, he gives me the vibes that he's fully capable of doing that. Um. I think Ben is doing that publicly, I think Tucker's doing that privately. I think Ben is doing that publicly, Tucker's doing that privately. And he's working overtime. On that side. So.

• 59:15Patrick Bet-David?

  You know, where it's kind of like, I don't want to have the influence over the thing, but man, I want to disrupt and just kind of shake things up, just to shake things up to say. I still have that influence, I think that's kind of where Tucker's at right now. Uh, and for me, as we're going through this next phase. It's gonna be interesting because. One of two things gonna happen. Megan.

• 59:38Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't, I don't, I don't know if that's gonna happen, but Megyn Kelly is...

• 59:45Patrick Bet-David?

  There's gotta be a synergist in this community right now. I don't know who that synergist is. It's not Ben, it's not Tucker. Neither one of them are synergists.

• 59:54Adam Sosnick?

  It was Charlie.

• 59:55Patrick Bet-David?

  It was Charlie. No, no, I'm saying now. Like, who is that person now to play that card? Um, I don't know. I don't know. We're gonna see what's gonna be happening. The reality is, is this. While this is going on, guess what chart came out? Okay, while this is going on. While this is going on, folks, you ready?

• 1:00:14Patrick Bet-David?

  According to a new poll from Newsweek. Not Newsweek poll, Newsweek writes this article. I'll tell you who the poll is from. AOC officially leads JD Vance for the first time in 2028 election matchup. I'm sorry, what did you say, Pat? Yeah, exactly. The socialist. AOC, democratic socialist. Leads JD Vance.

• 1:00:41Patrick Bet-David?

  For the first time. You know, the Republicans, oh JD Vance is a shoe-in, oh, it's done! Oh, really? Yeah. Alright. AOC, a slight lead over JD Vance. In a hypothetical 2028 matchup. AOC edges the Republican nominee 51 to 49. In the Argument Verisite survey released on Tuesday, however, the result was within the 2.7% point margin of error. Making the two candidates statistically tied. The poll asked voters who they would vote if the election was between the two of them. Newsweek reached out to the representatives of Vance and AOC by email to comment on the story.

• 1:01:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Outside of normal business hours. While neither individual has formally announced a presidential run. Both have been widely tipped as potential candidates. So... The poll also found that Vance was more popular among white voters with 57% saying they would vote for him and 43% opting for Ocasio-Cortez. But she has a commanding lead with black voters, 79%, and with Hispanic voters, she's at 64%. Keep in mind, black voter 79% just 20 years ago was 92%. Just 10 years ago was 88%. So even 79% is not as high as it once used to be just a decade ago. So Tom, is this a real poll?

• 1:02:10Patrick Bet-David?

  And is this something the American people should be concerned about, specifically conservatives?

• 1:02:14Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, yes and yes. Yes, it's a real poll. It was the Argument Verisite survey, you know, and you could say, well, there's flaws in them typically over time. They haven't been perfectly accurate. Yeah, well, but you know what? Think of these polls, Pat, as directional, that it's directional. So it's a real poll and people should be concerned about it. The other polls that are out there that have JD Vance versus the field, Vance holds his own at like 37, 39% and the second in those polls is Gavin Newsom like at 22%. So when you do Vance against the Democrat field, everybody goes, wow, he's way up on them. But you have to remember, everybody in those polls as Republican is saying Vance. The Democrats are splitting their votes about everybody that's down there.

• 1:02:59Tom Ellsworth?

  And when you take off, excuse me, Gavin Newsom, then it's this. So whenever you do a head-to-head poll like this in the midst of going into weakness in midterm, I'm not surprised by the result. However, this should be a concern for the GOP and for Vance and people because what it means is this consolidated Democrat side right now is closer than you think and may even be a little bit ahead because the economy and affordability and some other issues are very real. So this is something to be concerned about and she's capable. The other thing I look at, now this is me going to go below the surface, who paid for this poll? Usually politicians pay for the polls. The pollsters just don't go out and do it.

• 1:03:43Tom Ellsworth?

  They have donors and they have sponsors of the polls. So did some people on AOC's side said, let's run this. And then they run it and they go out. And I found it was odd that Newsweek said, we reached out to representatives by email outside of normal business hours. I hate it when the media does that. Oh, like I called them, we got no comment from AOC or Vance. We did send the email at midnight, so I gotta be honest about that. That's such BS.

• 1:04:10Patrick Bet-David?

  What do you mean?

• 1:04:11Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, it's like they said, we couldn't get, we couldn't get in touch with them. Well, when you said it, so they openly say, well, we did say the, send the email after business hours.

• 1:04:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, but to be fair to them, neither one of them responded. So it's not like they sided with somebody. By the way, is there a chance?

• 1:04:25Tom Ellsworth?

  At midnight.

• 1:04:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, did you find out who funded the poll? I'm actually curious.

• 1:04:29Tom Ellsworth?

  No, but I wanna know who funded the poll.

• 1:04:31Patrick Bet-David?

  How can we find out?

• 1:04:32Tom Ellsworth?

  Usually you can find in the fine print of the polls and looking at what's called cross tabs and the fine print said that this, this poll was sponsored by the United States DNC. Usually you can see the sponsors.

• 1:04:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me tell you a dark.

• 1:04:45Tom Ellsworth?

  ABC will ask Ipsos, say, we'd like you to do a poll.

• 1:04:49Patrick Bet-David?

  A part of me is, you know, the way I would do it, if this was the world I was in, you know how I would do it, Tom? I would do it as a conservative and funded, showing AOC's ahead. Are you freaking kidding me?

• 1:05:00Tom Ellsworth?

  Light a fire.

• 1:05:01Patrick Bet-David?

  They better realize what the hell is going on. While you guys are working for ranking on, on influence and media and podcasts and all this stuff, the Democrats are whooping your ass. If it's just about the podcast game, then great, you're doing fine. But it's about your values and principles winning, you're losing.

• 1:05:18Tom Ellsworth?

  If it's this close, there's a problem. That's my opinion.

• 1:05:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Interesting. Vinnie, where are you at? AOC against JD. By the way, can you play that clip by AOC, what she says? Watch this, folks. She was asked, if you guys went head to head, how do you think you would do against JD? Look what she says. Go for it.

• 1:05:36Speaker 12

  Read the button. Or do you think that you'll be, that you could be JD Vance in a head to head race for president as polling suggests in 2028?

• 1:05:42Speaker 13

  Listen, these polls like three years out are, you know, they are what they are, but let the record show.

• 1:05:51Speaker 13

  I will stomp him. I will stomp him.

• 1:05:53Speaker 12

  Thank you, Congresswoman.

• 1:05:55Patrick Bet-David?

  I will stomp him. I will stomp him. Do you think she kinda knew the question? Of course. I don't know if she knew the question. I know, I know she knows about the poll.

• 1:06:03Speaker 04

  That's scary.

• 1:06:03Patrick Bet-David?

  The vibe she gave me, she knew about the poll. That's a little smug. Rob, is that saying who did the poll?

• 1:06:07Speaker 05

  Yes, it's an Argument Verisite poll. Apparently, the organization was founded in August of this year.

• 1:06:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, and founded by Jerusalem Damas. Who is Jerusalem Damas? Tyler Cohen, is that a left guy or right guy? Who's Tyler Cohen? Who's Susan? Including left, center, central liberal leanings? I don't know these names.

• 1:06:30Speaker 04

  Rachel Pritzker is in there.

• 1:06:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so it's a leftist, uh, it's a leftist.

• 1:06:34Speaker 04

  It's people that really don't like the country.

• 1:06:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Alright, so it's a leftist, uh, uh, uh, idea. So, Vinny, what do you have with this?

• 1:06:40Speaker 04

  Well, poll aside, I, I'm just, listen, this Mumdani effect and all the, th- this movement, that's the, that's the future of the Democratic Party. It's socialism, it's communism, it's promising young people free stuff that they're never going to get, that they're going to pay for it. And I think, but, and it's a real, real thing, real serious thing that people need to worry about, and that's why I'm, I'm pro, like, the mission should be us. And, and, and I, I take a little, like, it bothers me that a lot of people are like, influencers are gonna take the, you know what people need to be doing? How about all those Republicans and all those races and everything? Get your asses out there, go do your thing, go grassroots, do everything, because guess what? Daddy's Trump co-signing isn't as powerful as it used to be.

• 1:07:22Speaker 04

  You need to be out there, all these people, because they just think, well, if Trump co-signs for me and says he's, he's behind me, I'm gonna win. No, no, no. You have to do the work. Get out there and do it. They're doing the work. The AOCs and all these Jasmine Crockett's, that's, to me, it's scary, because they're out there and the message is, is getting out there to these young voters who have no idea, who have no idea. We're all gonna see what's gonna happen in New York. Give it two years with all these fake promises, all this fake socialist communist stuff is gonna happen. They're gonna get in, and I keep warning people, what's going to happen when the pendulum swings? And these people, by the way, AOC's one of the people that's... Said what the world's gonna end. She's like because of climate change, the world's gonna be end.

• 1:08:04Speaker 04

  So even in her presidency, we're probably all gonna be dead in her mind. So I think it's a very, very scary thing that people need to be aware of.

• 1:08:11Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, the artillery of the left is the media and the media has been doing a very consistent job. I'm not gonna say good job. They've been very consistent in their attacks on, oh, it's affordability, affordability. Now, there's some truth that's in that, but then they're also saying, and the tariffs called inflation. The tariffs cause inflation. You look at polls right now, people think tariffs cause inflation because the media's been hammering their heads. They actually didn't, but that doesn't matter. So therefore the anti-Trump undermining at the time where the economy's trying to adjust is working. And the average person is saying, yeah, I do feel the economy. I do feel this. And so now it's showing up right here. And say what you will about Gavin Newsom, but when you see the polling that's this close right now, the Republicans don't have a messaging problem.

• 1:08:56Tom Ellsworth?

  They have a messaging problem and a policy getting traction problem. Cause I think some of the things that the president said on his speech were good and correct, but they need traction and momentum behind that. That shows up in the hands and pocket boots of the American people.

• 1:09:10Adam Sosnick?

  Hey Tom, who was the pollster on this?

• 1:09:13Tom Ellsworth?

  This is a left leaning poll that was just created, the argument, they call it the argument in August of 2025. So this new polling organization was created.

• 1:09:21Adam Sosnick?

  How much credibility you give this organization?

• 1:09:24Tom Ellsworth?

  Moderate.

• 1:09:25Adam Sosnick?

  Okay, I'm at zero, maybe 1%.

• 1:09:28Tom Ellsworth?

  I don't think they only found a group of people that only this way. I think it's very legitimate to get a group of voters that say, are people upset enough at the economy?

• 1:09:38Patrick Bet-David?

  You're giving it zero.

• 1:09:39Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, I'll tell you why.

• 1:09:40Patrick Bet-David?

  You're given zero credibility. Let me, let me, let me set you up. You're given zero credibility to a poll that has AOC ahead of JD Vance.

• 1:09:48Adam Sosnick?

  Yes.

• 1:09:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Go for it.

• 1:09:49Adam Sosnick?

  Uh, this is, it was established in August of 2025. So it's about three months old. Congratulations on your rookie year pollsters. We all, we also know how much credibility I give pollsters. I trust Vegas because they have money on the line, not some literal left wing pollster rag that's coming out there. And shockingly, AOC is beating JD Vance in this one poll within the margin of error. This ain't Gallup, this ain't Pew, this ain't Rasmussen, this ain't YouGov, this isn't even ABC, CBS, NBC, none of it. It's some random media organization that's like, yeah, AOC hypothetically can beat JD Vance. To me, that's absolute BS.

• 1:10:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh my god.

• 1:10:28Adam Sosnick?

  AOC. is an intellectual lightweight compared to JD Vance. She may have more style. She may have more Twitter followers in the, in the land of eyeballs and, an influencer economy. JD Vance is a real dude. I'm not the biggest JD Vance guy, so I'm not here defending JD. But in a debate, full on hypothetical debate, if they're on stage, between the Vice President JD Vance and AOC on stage, she's gonna get her clock cleaned. It's not even gonna be close. And just because you're a big booty Latino, they ain't gonna help you on this one. So to me, this polls BS, AOC running for president is BS. Yes, she has influence in the Democratic Party.

• 1:11:13Adam Sosnick?

  She has no influence in a greater landscape for the American economy. That's just me. Secondly, Erica Kirk had came out during Turning Point and said that she's gonna do her best to help get JD Vance elected. We'll see what happens with that. My focus is, let's end the year strong. Let's try to win the midterms so the trans community doesn't make a comeback. And then we can worry about 2028 in 2028. So to me, AOC is a non-starter. We haven't had a representative go from representative to president in the history of America. And you think it's gonna happen with this intellectual lightweight AOC?

• 1:11:51Patrick Bet-David?

  What a pompous argument you just made.

• 1:11:53Adam Sosnick?

  Sure, call me pompous, but I'm right.

• 1:11:55Patrick Bet-David?

  No, it's, you don't, you don't understand. Yeah, how many times you been wrong guy? Like, you, you, you know what a pompous argument that is?

• 1:12:01Adam Sosnick?

  Tell me why it's pompous.

• 1:12:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me tell you why it's pompous. That is by far the worst argument to have right now in this season.

• 1:12:07Adam Sosnick?

  Explain.

• 1:12:08Patrick Bet-David?

  I'll tell you exactly why. I'll tell you exactly why. What, what, tell me the biggest victory Republicans have had the last 90 days? Go ahead, I'll wait. Go ahead.

• 1:12:18Adam Sosnick?

  What do you mean the biggest victory?

• 1:12:19Patrick Bet-David?

  You tell me the biggest Republican victory that they've had in, and you know, any of the major-

• 1:12:24Adam Sosnick?

  You're talking about elections?

• 1:12:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Any of the elections. Tell me, tell me a big victory they've had.

• 1:12:27Adam Sosnick?

  No, of course, because the pendulum has swung-

• 1:12:29Patrick Bet-David?

  To what?

• 1:12:29Adam Sosnick?

  Back towards the other party, just like it does every single midterm, every single election.

• 1:12:34Patrick Bet-David?

  On day one, when this guy Mamdani came up, did you think he was gonna become the mayor of the city? No, you did not. So don't, don't act like you knew Mamdani was gonna win or not. None of us did.

• 1:12:44Adam Sosnick?

  No.

• 1:12:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Everybody was shocked. And guess what happened? He beat- Eric Adams stepped down.

• 1:12:50Adam Sosnick?

  In liberal New York City.

• 1:12:52Patrick Bet-David?

  It does, okay.

• 1:12:53Adam Sosnick?

  That matters.

• 1:12:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Then Miami, after Suarez. What do you want to do? What argument do you want to go with this? That was.

• 1:12:59Adam Sosnick?

  The new, just because a Democrat gets elected, doesn't mean there is.

• 1:13:02Patrick Bet-David?

  First time in 27 years.

• 1:13:04Adam Sosnick?

  Okay, because it's an affordability conversation.

• 1:13:06Patrick Bet-David?

  No, but that's the.

• 1:13:07Adam Sosnick?

  Okay, so stay on that. Okay, there's a difference between a Democrat, a progressive, and an Islamist communist in New York City.

• 1:13:14Patrick Bet-David?

  The problem, the problem with this is Adam, is the following, okay? In the world of competition and winning, chips are not handed out. In the world of competition and winning, do you know who loses? An undefeated New England Patriots going up against a frickin' Eli Manning, who nobody would have ever thought was gonna win, beats the flipping Patriots.

• 1:13:39Adam Sosnick?

  That helmet catch.

• 1:13:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Two times. The helmet catch.

• 1:13:42Adam Sosnick?

  Tyrese.

• 1:13:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Two times. The game shouldn't have been that close. So, so what's the point here? That should have been the greatest team ever that for the rest of our careers, we talk about undefeated, okay? So, the moment, the pompous attitude of the Miami Heat against the Dallas Mavericks, making fun of Dirk.

• 1:14:00Patrick Bet-David?

  He's sick, he's coughing. He whooped your ass, single-handedly. The second best player on that team was who? Finley. Dirk beat Miami Heat with Bosch, Wade, and LeBron with a six-inch vertical leap. He can't even jump. He beat the living crap out of him, went 24 out of 24, I think, free throws, scored 48 points and won the game. Embarrassed those guys. Maybe the worst loss ever. You want to sit here and say less than 1%? If I'm, if I'm a, if I'm a shot caller in the Republican Party behind the scenes, and I no longer do the podcast, every single day I'm sitting there telling them, "You guys better get your asses together. You guys better get your asses together. You guys better get your asses together. Stop being so frickin' confident and arrogant.

• 1:14:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Shit's about to get real." Okay? There's, the victory of the Miami mayor and the victory of the New York City mayor.

• 1:14:53Patrick Bet-David?

  It's only validating AOC. It is only validating AOC's policies. These are baby AOC's winning. If I'm, if I'm AOC's campaign manager, guess what I'm saying? Look what the hell is going on. You know what America's telling you? They want me. They want AOC. And you want to get cocky? No, listen, as great of an election night 2024 was, while we were celebrating with 2,000 other people here going crazy. If these guys are gonna go like this, and this, this is what the Republican Party's gonna be and, you know, all, all the stuff that they got going on, they, they better get together quickly. This, this is, midterms are around the corner. By the way, midterms gets done, guess what Trump's gonna be doing last two years? Nothing. Nothing.

• 1:15:37Patrick Bet-David?

  So, no, I don't know. I, my, my biggest challenge right now is, yes, a lot of these policies are creating what? They're, they're making, people making money. Hey, we're making money with AI. Hey, we're making money with crypto. Hey, we're making money with this. Hey, we're making money with all this stuff, all these deals that we're doing together. I totally get it. But 2020, it's gonna come like this. And then what? And, and the next president, Fox has announced it. Newsom is the next president of the United States. Fox has announced it. A shocking upset. AOC defeats Vance.

• 1:16:14Patrick Bet-David?

  To think and underestimate that is exactly why they'll lose. And I hope they don't feel the way you just portrayed it right now. You have the right to have your opinion right now. I hope they don't feel that way. I hope, I hope they're not sitting there, you know, because, don't get me wrong, you know, you, the, the, Trump to me is a once in a lifetime type of guy that came in and won. Take this once in a lifetime type of guy with the thick skin that he has that won and won. Okay, they, they take this guy out, and then so who's next? You, you think it's gonna be an automatic shoo-in? I don't think so. I think it's gonna be very, it's a very different climate they're living in right now. Very different climate they're living in right now. And things can change like this. Towards the bad or towards the good. Like this. So getting cocky going into midterms in 2028

• 1:16:58Patrick Bet-David?

  is practically the dumbest idea conservatives could have going in. It's the wrong move. Never be this cocky. And by the way, Adam, I actually think most of them feel like you right now. I actually think most of them laugh at AOC saying I'll stump on him. Never underestimate your opponent, ever, never, ever. I don't care how rich you are, I don't care how powerful you are, I don't care how talented you are. Never, ever underestimate your opponent that's willing to go to all levels to get the job done. And all levels, I mean as what? Nasty, ugly, manipulative, dark.

• 1:17:40Patrick Bet-David?

  God first, fear God first, protect the greatest country in the world. Keep presenting the values and principles, unify, simplify, multiply. We are not unified right now. There is no unification at Turning Point USA. Is that showing you unification? It's not to me. That's not showing me unification. The two biggest names that were out there giving a message like that. Now, don't get me wrong, you know, Junior's got to talk. You know, some of the other guys got to talk. You know, some of the other guys that have, you know, certain important roles, they got to, they got to talk and we'll see what they're going to be saying. The synergists haven't spoken yet, the dividers have spoken. I don't put Ben or Tucker as a synergist or unifier, so yeah, I, I don't know.

• 1:18:22Patrick Bet-David?

  I think, I, I, I am only... Sometimes you sit there and you think everybody is over-prepared. And you would be amazed how many times people are not over-prepared. All of these guys, like, how, how many meetings you think has been had about unifying the entire party? You think there was a meeting of bringing Ben and Tucker together behind closed doors? I don't know if that happened. You think there was a meeting of Ben and Tucker having a private dinner together? With somebody that's a nonexistent person? Not a front-facing type of person saying, "Hey, guys, can we just hash this out?" Listen, Tucker, Ben, we're not leaving this room till we hash it out.

• 1:19:06Patrick Bet-David?

  All the phones outside, each of you guys gets to bring one security guard in that you trust. And if you want to bring your one person in, you can, but no phones, nothing. Everyone's getting frisked, I don't want anything to be in here. Out. Let's talk, what's going on? No, I, I, this is a very, uh, very weird season. Trust me, I was on the other side. Where I was selling the hope four years ago. Where, hey, it's gonna be Trump. You guys are doing this, I'm doing that. Not right now, right now it's cockiness. And it's extremely disturbing to me and annoying to me when I see this, but.

• 1:19:40Adam Sosnick?

  Can I respond?

• 1:19:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, of course.

• 1:19:42Adam Sosnick?

  Well, I, I agree with you on the cockiness thing. I, I, I. Don't start dancing in the end zone when you're on the two yard line. However, I will say this, since you used an NBA reference, we all know who's, uh, more knowledgeable when it comes to NBA of the two of us, sir. There's levels to this game. So, uh, there's a difference between winning a representative seat, congress seat versus a senate seat, versus becoming a governor of a state versus becoming the president of the United States. To me, if JD Vance ran against AOC in the Bronx, she'd clean his clock. Okay? Cause they would, she would win. If they ran for maybe even governor of New York, she'd have a chance.

• 1:20:23Adam Sosnick?

  A general election, when the entire country is focused, hyper focused on what you know, not just style, but substance, to me, she's an intellectual lightweight compared to JD Vance. And she would be exposed. This doesn't mean that she isn't capable of doing her little thing in the Bronx. Respect on that. This also doesn't mean that we should dismiss the fact that 2028 is around the corner and that we do need to basically wake up or else we're gonna get our clock cleaned, the Republican Party, so to speak. But to me, the question was, do you believe this poll of a general election of the Vice President of the United States versus AOC? And my simple answer was, I don't believe it. I don't see it. I'm not being cocky. She could win a representative seat in New York,

• 1:21:07Adam Sosnick?

  not a general election against JD Vance. That's my opinion.

• 1:21:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, and, and if, and if the other side keeps believing that. That's how great empires fall, buddy. There's a reason why one of the greatest CEOs in Silicon Valley wrote a book called Only the Paranoid Survive. And I'm simply telling you, conservatives have zero paranoia right now. They are overly confident, and that's not a good thing, Tom.

• 1:21:32Adam Sosnick?

  And when you say that they're overconfident, do you think they're overconfident about what?

• 1:21:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Everything.

• 1:21:36Adam Sosnick?

  Winning 2026, winning 2028?

• 1:21:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Everything.

• 1:21:39Adam Sosnick?

  That's not the vibe I'm getting from these people. They should be paranoid.

• 1:21:43Patrick Bet-David?

  No, they're overconfident.

• 1:21:44Adam Sosnick?

  They just got their asses handed to them this November.

• 1:21:45Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, they're overly confident. They're overly confident. Because they're saying comments like you, there's a difference between mayor and the wing.

• 1:21:51Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, but that's my opinion. I don't represent the RNC. I don't represent anybody. I represent myself.

• 1:21:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Overly.

• 1:21:57Adam Sosnick?

  Who in the RNC is saying, "We got this."

• 1:21:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Overly confident.

• 1:22:00Adam Sosnick?

  I don't hear these people.

• 1:22:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, overly confident, Tom.

• 1:22:02Tom Ellsworth?

  And let me tell you, these things can change. And they are cocky, and they are confident.

• 1:22:08Adam Sosnick?

  Who's "they," though?

• 1:22:12Tom Ellsworth?

  RNC strategists, look at what they say. Look what people say. They come out and do this. They say a lot of times exactly what you said. Is it historically accurate to say, "A representative has never made it to the White House?" Yes. But it's also historically accurate to say, "The economy has been the... Outside of intense wartime, the economy is the single most deciding factor for US elections." You go take a look. Bush Senior beat nobody. Beat nothing in a suit in 1988. The economy shifted in 1992. They were cocky. And by the time the summer got there, and Ross Perot was getting traction, and an unknown named Bill Clinton was up, it was too late.

• 1:22:55Tom Ellsworth?

  They lost in 92 on strategy in the midst of the economy. And right now, yesterday, University of Michigan has a highly credible consumer sentiment survey. You know where that is right now? All time low. So we have an economy issue.

• 1:23:12Adam Sosnick?

  What's all time low?

• 1:23:13Tom Ellsworth?

  The University of Michigan Consumer Sentiment Survey just hit an all time low. Forget polling, forget strategists, let's go look at things that have credibility and say, do you think that says that maybe you should be thinking about it? Do you think that says you maybe shouldn't be cocky? Do you think that says that that with all the things that you would never think would happen, might happen? Yes, I think they're staring 1992 right in the face. Well, you know, you know Reagan to Bush senior, Bush senior beat Dukakis, beat nobody. And then 92 comes along, the economy burps and then they're cocky about it. And they got out strategize Clinton come out of nowhere.

• 1:23:53Tom Ellsworth?

  Perot filed the stream with the third candidate numbers, but they weren't ready for it. They weren't ready for it and they got beat. And I, I, I see history getting ready to repeat. And it worries me because I think there's a country that's here that also is hanging in the balance, not just left, right.

• 1:24:11Adam Sosnick?

  Well, Tom, respect to you. Why do you think they think that the economy is at an all time low? Do you think, are you blaming Trump for that? Or not you, but.

• 1:24:19Tom Ellsworth?

  Listen, when people go to the ballot box, it's not who they blame, it's how they feel.

• 1:24:23Adam Sosnick?

  Sure.

• 1:24:23Tom Ellsworth?

  And it's the independents in the middle. I don't, I don't worry about the hard Trump, you know, uh, you know, foundation. I don't worry about that. I do worry about the independents in the middle. And guess what? Even the charts that, that Trump showed, you saw how big those blue bars were? And you saw the red bars were changing? The red bars have to get past the blue bar to get things back to what you were able to afford and buy previously. You have to overcome the inflation effect. 31%, remember that number? Since Biden came into office, the US dollar and spending power for the US citizen has gone down 31%.

• 1:25:05Adam Sosnick?

  Thank you.

• 1:25:05Tom Ellsworth?

  Now it's coming up, it's coming up. And all the things that, that Trump said are true, but that traction's gotta come true. And then it'll show up in consumer sentiment and then they got a shot. You can't be cocky in the face of that.

• 1:25:18Adam Sosnick?

  Let me just stay on this affordability economy issue for one second. Trump's been president for not even a year yet, okay? It's been 11 months. I, I believe that he's on the right track to turn the economy around to where we want to be. But let's not, let's not dismiss the fact that under Joe Biden, they printed how much money? They let how many illegals into the country? The border thing, that lost my vote completely. Supply and demand, there's 10 million plus illegals in the country.

• 1:25:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam, this is, this is.

• 1:25:45Adam Sosnick?

  Our dollar is being devalued.

• 1:25:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Which audience do you think you're speaking to today?

• 1:25:48Adam Sosnick?

  But the point is this, you're talking about consumer sentiment is at an all time low because it's the reverberations of what happened the last four years.

• 1:25:56Patrick Bet-David?

  That's not how this works though.

• 1:25:57Adam Sosnick?

  Tell me how it works.

• 1:25:58Patrick Bet-David?

  That's not how this works. What percentage of people do you think are watching and know what you just said right now?

• 1:26:05Adam Sosnick?

  Most people are not smart, so.

• 1:26:07Patrick Bet-David?

  No, not, not most people are not smart. Most people are not following you. Most people are following.

• 1:26:11Adam Sosnick?

  You mean our audience or people in general?

• 1:26:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Not our audience.

• 1:26:13Adam Sosnick?

  Audience is smarter than most.

• 1:26:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Our audience follows, is smarter than most, yes. But what I'm saying is the average audience is sitting there, the average voter is like, what, you, you, explain to them what consumer sentiment is.

• 1:26:24Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 1:26:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you tell me the definition of consumer sentiment?

• 1:26:27Adam Sosnick?

  I just, yeah, no, no, Vinny don't even know.

• 1:26:29Patrick Bet-David?

  How you feel?

• 1:26:30Adam Sosnick?

  National mood.

• 1:26:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Where I'm going with.

• 1:26:32Adam Sosnick?

  Facts don't care about your feelings, Vinny.

• 1:26:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Where I'm going with this for you is, this has got nothing to do with Trump. This, Trump's won. Trump did his part. Moving forward, it's not on Trump. This is no longer a, a, a Trump thing. Yeah, Trump can play a role on who he picks as the endorsement and stuff like that, yes. Trump has done more for conservatives and Republicans than any other candidate has done the last 20 years. This is not that conversation. Okay, we're not having that conversation. It's the next ones. Now what? What are you gonna do? Who's the next ones? Who, who, who's rising up to take this, carry the flag to the next phase? That's a concern. They best not get cocky. That's all I'm saying. If you get cocky, you're gonna get caught.

• 1:27:19Patrick Bet-David?

  And do you, do you ever like? I had Buster Douglas on my podcast one time. The boxer? Yeah. Do you know who beat Mike Tyson? He beat Mike Tyson. Yeah, knocked him out. Do you know nobody in a million years would have thought Buster Douglas is gonna beat Mike Tyson? I remember that. Nobody would have ever thought when that happened. Everybody was shocked. Right when it took place. His mother had passed away recently, right before the fight. When he won the fight. This is a wrong time to be cocky. This is a wrong time to be cocky. That's all I'm saying. And we'll see. I think Turning Point US is gonna play a very important role. You know, she's... Erica's barely getting off what happened to her husband, losing it, and she's still, you know, it's only been 90 days.

• 1:28:01Patrick Bet-David?

  So is she gonna drive and do all that stuff? We'll see. We'll see what's gonna happen. It's gonna be a lot... Remember, here's who you don't have. You don't have Elon right now. So you don't know what Elon's gonna be doing. Elon's still a wild card. And you forget how big of a role he played. We don't know who the independent runner's gonna be in 2028. That's gonna be the RFK of 2028. I'm gonna go to the next story. I'm gonna go to the next story. Next story I wanna get into is... Uh, uh, uh, let's talk about this. Something very interesting happened, and then we'll get into, uh... A couple of the stories that have to do... You know, matter of fact, let's go into Nick, uh... How do you say his last name? Is it Reiner? Nick Reiner? Nick Reiner, yeah. Nick Reiner makes first court appearance to face murder charges and killing of his parents. Okay? Rob, if you got that clip, is this it? Yep.

• 1:28:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Go for it, Rob.

• 1:28:48Speaker 14

  Reiner making his first court appearance moments ago. Let's watch. It'll be a convenient date for us to come back for potential Reiner.

• 1:28:55Speaker 15

  Thank you. This time I'll take a waiver, speedy arraignment waiver for your client. Mr. Reiner, you have a constitutional and statutory right to a speedy arraignment. Your counsel's requesting that your arraignment be continued to January 7, 2026. Do you waive your right to a speedy arraignment so that your arraignment can't be heard on January 7, 2026?

• 1:29:18Speaker 15

  And this counsel joining the waiver? I join, Your Honor. The court finds that the defendant has been in knowing and intelligent labor of his right to a speedy arraignment and that his counsel plans in that waiver, whether set January 7, 2026, for arraignment in this department, fail to stand at no bail. Anything further on that case? Not other defense, Your Honor. Anything further? No, thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Your Honor.

• 1:29:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, you can pause it right there. Now, by the way, Michelle Obama was on, I think Jimmy Kimmel? Yep. She's on Jimmy Kimmel, and she's telling the story about how they were supposed to meet with them that night to have dinner with Rob Reiner, okay? So they're having, if you have the clip, Rob, is that the one? Yes, sir. Go for it, go ahead.

• 1:30:00Speaker 16

  Husband, we're friends with Rob and Michelle Reiner, and I'm very sorry for your loss.

• 1:30:05Speaker 17

  Oh, my God.

• 1:30:07Speaker 16

  How long have you known the Reiners?

• 1:30:08Speaker 17

  We've known them for many, many years, and we were supposed to be seeing them that night, last night, and we got the news. And let me just say this, unlike some people, Rob and Michelle Reiner are some of the most decent, courageous people you ever want to know.

• 1:30:32Speaker 17

  They are not, they're not deranged or crazed. What they, what they have always been are passionate people in a time when there are not, there's not a lot of courage going on. They were the kind of people who were ready to put their actions behind what they cared about, and they cared about their family, and they cared about this country, and they cared about fairness and equity, and that is the truth. I do know them.

• 1:30:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, we believe you.

• 1:30:59Speaker 16

  You and your husband were-

• 1:31:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so, Rob, what, what, what else has happened since? A lot of old clips have circulated, right? A lot of old stuff from Nick Reiner, the family tweets. Here's a tweet I just saw right here, "Until Trump goes to prison," from Rob Reiner, "Until Trump goes to prison, I will no longer be posting on Twitter." I had it with the insults and put downs. This is Rob Reiner, "F all of you MAGA assholes." Okay, so that's Rob Reiner. Who wrote that? Oh, by the way, if you, and there's a ton of these.

• 1:31:27Speaker 04

  He would for 10 years, it was the anti Trump. Anytime a camera was in front of Rob Reiner, God rest his soul. It was all about Trump, F his followers, Russia collusion. That's all he was like you forgot about the movies like people were just he's just anti Trump. The entire time.

• 1:31:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Here's one note, note surprise Trump colluded with Russia. We've always known his presidency was illegitimate. Now it's been proven for the sake of our democracy, this man must be indicted and jailed. Okay, so this is right, there's a reason why the president came out hard. The day he died and he put the twin, a lot of people were critical of him. And a lot of this other stuff showing up, they're like, wait a minute, this, this is, this is kind of. You know, Trump never forgets what happened, remember he, he said it himself. He says, I don't, I, I hold grudges, I'm not like some of these other guys, right? You know, but there's, there's a couple of clips, Rob. Of, did you see the one with Conan O'Brien?

• 1:32:17Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, I was just gonna say that, that.

• 1:32:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you have that one, Rob with the Conan O'Brien?

• 1:32:22Speaker 04

  Uh, no, let me take a look. And so allegedly they were at the house, right? He was at Conan's house.

• 1:32:28Adam Sosnick?

  Through a holiday party is what.

• 1:32:29Speaker 04

  Yeah, well, I have an art, a video on that, yeah.

• 1:32:32Adam Sosnick?

  And apparently, uh, if you remember Bill Hader from SNL.

• 1:32:35Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 1:32:35Adam Sosnick?

  They were having a conversation, it was awkward, he stormed off, there was. They were all together at a party that night, hours later, he murders his parents. There's famous Hollywood actors there, they're all gonna probably have to testify.

• 1:32:47Speaker 04

  Of course.

• 1:32:48Adam Sosnick?

  As to what did you see that night?

• 1:32:50Speaker 04

  What are they arguing about? What are you arguing about?

• 1:32:51Adam Sosnick?

  What are they arguing about?

• 1:32:52Speaker 04

  Yeah, is this it?

• 1:32:53Adam Sosnick?

  Uh, to me, I, I, the politics aside. This drug addict semi homeless kid murdered his parents. That's the storyline.

• 1:33:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Was this Rob, is that the one?

• 1:33:06Speaker 05

  This is us, this is Anderson Cooper talking about the Wall Street Journal.

• 1:33:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Story.

• 1:33:11Speaker 05

  Uh, journalist who reported on the fight at Conan O'Brien's party, including the Bill Hader interaction.

• 1:33:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Go for it.

• 1:33:18Speaker 03

  Sure. So on the night before they were found murdered, uh, Rob and Michelle brought their son Nick to a holiday party at Conan O'Brien's house. Um, during the party, he was approaching people there, asking questions that in that context. Seemed confrontational, strange. Uh, especially are you famous, asking people there, are you famous? So you can imagine, imagine a party of actual famous people and fame adjacent people who are really used to. Strange behavior out in public, but here they are at a gathering of their peers

• 1:33:52Speaker 18

  Right.

• 1:33:53Speaker 03

  At a party hosted by Conan. It was unsettling to some.

• 1:33:56Speaker 18

  Was it, it wasn't sort of, oh, are you legitimate, like, oh, are you famous? It was saying to like Bill Hader, who's a very famous, well-known Saturday Night Live comedian, are you famous?

• 1:34:07Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 1:34:08Speaker 18

  Like, there's hostility to it, it seems.

• 1:34:09Speaker 03

  Yeah, and also, keep in mind, this is a kid, a man who grew up around famous people.

• 1:34:14Speaker 18

  Right.

• 1:34:14Speaker 03

  He was famous. Yeah, so Bill Hader was one of the people he approached at the party and making-

• 1:34:19Speaker 18

  You report on sort of a, I don't know if it was an argument or a-

• 1:34:23Speaker 03

  There was an awkward exchange, made more awkward by the fact that he had met Hader earlier in the night.

• 1:34:27Speaker 18

  Hmm.

• 1:34:28Speaker 03

  So when he-

• 1:34:29Speaker 18

  Through Rob-

• 1:34:29Speaker 03

  Through Rob had introduced him, so when he came up and asked him questions such as, what's your name? Are you famous? It was unsettling and described as scary from Hader's perspective.

• 1:34:40Speaker 18

  And then how, do you know how long he stayed at the party? Was he asked to leave?

• 1:34:44Speaker 03

  That is unclear, and there are kind of conflicting reports about how much tension was in the room, whether or not he may have argued with his dad, and whether that argument was significant at all. I think what stands is this fact that this is going to be remembered as a very strange prelude to a really horrific turn of events.

• 1:35:04Speaker 18

  You've also done a lot of reporting just on his addiction, on his past.

• 1:35:08Speaker 03

  Yeah, I mean, the fact that Rob and Michelle had brought their 32-year-old son to this party, I think, is kind of a sign of their ongoing efforts over the years to really stabilize him, to normalize his life, had been rocked many, many times by his addiction.

• 1:35:25Speaker 18

  And there had been, I mean, there'd been a lot of efforts by Rob Reiner over the years. I mean, making that film, Rob Reiner worked as a director on it, the movie that his son co-wrote, apparently without salary even, in the hopes that that would sort of launch him into a career, I guess.

• 1:35:42Speaker 03

  Correct, and to really trying to understand what Nick had gone through as a father. I mean, that's how Rob described it at least. And what's remarkable is that that whole thing would be private and opaque to us if that movie hadn't happened, and they hadn't gone on these press tours talking about their problems with, you know, kind of varying degrees of comfort and discomfort, it seemed like, on both their parts.

• 1:36:02Speaker 18

  Yeah, it's fascinating reporting of Wall Street-

• 1:36:04Patrick Bet-David?

  By the age of 22, by the age of 22, he went to rehab 18 times. By the age of 22, he went to rehab 18 times. Wow. Another story that just dropped from TMZ right now says he was diagnosed with schizophrenia. And the meds he was taking made him erratic and dangerous. Okay, erratic and dangerous. And some of the clips you see is just disturbing between the father and the son relationship. Rob, do you have that one clip? You just, and I know you've seen quite a few of them. You and I were talking about some of them. Some of them we're not gonna play. No, no. There's a lot of weird stuff out there on, which one is this, Rob? Can you play it? I just wanna see which one this is.

• 1:36:45Speaker 11

  You don't seem very fiery to me. You seem like you might just...

• 1:36:47Speaker 08

  I get crazy. I get crazy. Yeah. You don't wanna set me off.

• 1:36:51Speaker 11

  Were you ever worried that Nick could shine poorly on your career or something like that?

• 1:36:57Speaker 19

  No, no. That never crossed my mind. In my opinion, in my opinion, the reason they're taking, whether it's drugs, or alcohol, or gambling, whatever they're doing, they're doing it because there's a pain. There's something inside that's, they don't feel good. They don't feel good about themselves and they're self-medicating. So, to try to understand why it is they're not feeling good.

• 1:37:20Speaker 04

  You don't seem... Well, okay, so Adam makes a really good point. Automatically, The View, the whole world was like, Trump, and as if it was a surprise, Donald Trump was gonna say, like, God, whatever he said, his condolences, but he said, this guy had Trump derangement syndrome, and he didn't say something like, by the way, again, I didn't agree with it too soon. He didn't say like, oh, I'm happy he's dead. He just made a point that this guy for 10 years made his life a living hell. Put that aside, Adam makes a great point. The real issue is, and just to add to this, a caveat, Rob Reiner reportedly, this is from Yahoo Entertainment, said that he was petrified of his son Nick, and that he could hurt him in his final words at this party. Okay, that's number one.

• 1:38:02Speaker 04

  The deeper issue to me is, you could answer this, Rob could, and I asked Rob earlier, and you could, Tom. If you are going to rehab at 14 years old, okay? As a parent, as a father in Hollywood, how does that happen? How are you not in the kid's life enough that a 14-year-old has to go to rehab? That's one question that I was asking, okay? Was there abuse? What was going on? And we're not going to play the clips, but Al Franken and Billy Crystal on a roast said stuff that I don't even want to say on camera. I'm not going to say. You guys can go look at it. It was disgusting. Disgusting is an understatement, yeah. It's disgusting, understatement, pedophilia-type stuff. I don't even want to get into it.

• 1:38:47Speaker 04

  We don't know what type of abuse happened. Nobody knows what makes that type of thing happen. I'm going to be very, very, I'm interested and curious to see what the defense is going to say and have for Nick, because I'm telling you, schizophrenia aside, he's going to probably reveal a lot of stuff that a lot of things, a lot of abuse, I don't know if it's going to be true or not, but I think a lot's going to come out in the wash. And I'm very curious to see how his siblings are going to respond to potentially some of the abuse that he had. Because it's, to me, I've never heard of a 14-year-old in rehab. This is me personally, my experiences. Tom, as a father, can you explain to me how, how, how can something like that happen?

• 1:39:27Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, there's multiple layers to this onion, far as I see. First of all, I, I, I see just a horrible tragedy, the unthinkable, is your own child, you know, you know, commits murder. That's just unthinkable to me. And it's a tragedy. And, you know, I'll let, I'll let Rob's life professionally and things he said just stand for themselves. I don't, I don't want to kind of recount that. It's just, it's disgusting tragedy. But I'll tell you this, when we were looking for schools in California, looking for quality schools, we were at a, a private school. And at the private school, Vinnie, you can say, wow, you know, this kid's been in rehab 18 times. But there were kids at that school that were not in rehab, that needed rehab,

• 1:40:11Tom Ellsworth?

  and celebrity parents didn't want them to be identified publicly because they didn't want the Stain. The stain or the shame. That's bad publicity. And they tried to work with things with their kids privately. And yet, they were enabling through, you know, monetary availability of kids to get their hands on drugs. And they're hanging out with other celebrity kids that had wealth, that were able to get their hands on drugs. So I don't think it's that the story, the story can be, how did this guy end up in rehab 18 times since he was 14? There's part of me that says, thank God, he was in rehab, and they were trying to get somewhere. But obviously, it came off the rails. And at 32 years old, he then commits

• 1:40:56Tom Ellsworth?

  this. But there's another story in Los Angeles, and Pat's been around it, I've been around it, is the celebrities that never took their kids to rehab, but they needed help. Because they don't want, they don't want the reflection on their own, on their own reputation.

• 1:41:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I don't think that was Rob, though. I think Rob, you know, if he went to rehab that many times, you know, at least he wanted to do something about it. This is a clip, by the way, of him walking around after his parents were found. Watch this. Security camera footage shows Nick Reiner an hour before his arrest. This is after he killed his parents. Charged with the murder of his parents, goes into convenience store, Sunday evening. He then quickly leaves the store. Rob, what audio is that?

• 1:41:47Patrick Bet-David?

  I thought it was like somebody doing audio. No, that was Adam's clip. There you go. So disturbing, as you see something like this taking place with the son.

• 1:42:05Patrick Bet-David?

  I think a lot is gonna come out and I don't know, this, this story can go many different directions by the way. This story can go many, many different directions when some of the stories comes out and, and the legacy could be good, bad, and ugly very quickly.

• 1:42:17Adam Sosnick?

  What do you mean by, um, many different directions, sir?

• 1:42:21Patrick Bet-David?

  I, I, uh, I saw some things that was just a little bit uncomfortable. I saw some things that was a little bit uncomfortable. You know, you can come and do a roast and say stuff you wanna say about me. You can say roast about a lot of other stuff. Roast about a young son and what you do to him and what happens to him? You don't roast like that.

• 1:42:40Adam Sosnick?

  Nope.

• 1:42:41Patrick Bet-David?

  These are professional roasters saying stuff like that?

• 1:42:44Adam Sosnick?

  And he's laughing and the father's just laughing?

• 1:42:45Patrick Bet-David?

  The only reason you say something like that is if it's-

• 1:42:48Adam Sosnick?

  Not at fourteen.

• 1:42:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, is, is if it's a, it's a, anyways, this is a dark story, man. It's just a dark story. Adam?

• 1:42:55Adam Sosnick?

  Well, look, this to me comes down to, to the following. This is a story of a father and a parent's love for their son, uh, that just went horribly wrong. So, you know, the, the most likely person to kill somebody is not a stranger. It's not some random person in an alley. It's someone in your house, domestic violence, as they say. Like the, the, if you wanna go like the in order- According in progress. It's your, it's your boyfriend, girlfriend, spouse, family member, uh, friend, neighbor, and at the very least stranger. So, imagine this household of how combustible it would have been, right?

• 1:43:39Adam Sosnick?

  So, the rage, the emotion that was in there. Listen, I've been very open about this. My father and I had a very, very toxic relationship. Not many people have ever fist-fought their parents. I, my dad and I would fight all the time. I'm talking ten, twelve, fifteen, eighteen years old to eventually, one of us ended up in jail for domestic violence. So, I understand what it's like to live in a crazy household. I wasn't on drugs, I wasn't a drinker, my dad was an actual wild card. And it taught me how to basically deal with- Situations where very, very uncomfortable. In my opinion, this. The father and the mother loved their son with all their heart and they wanted the best for him. And he just could not get out of his own way.

• 1:44:24Adam Sosnick?

  You said something very powerful that I remember. I remember a lot of things you say are powerful. You said to your kids, I'll always love you, no matter what you do. I'll always love you unconditionally. But to say that I'm proud of you, that's something totally different. Am I getting those words right? So I think they love their son, but they were so saddened to see what his life is becoming. And they kept clearly trying to give him another second, third, fifth, 20th chance at life. And eventually it cost them their life. And that's the most tragic thing here.

• 1:44:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I'm gonna go to this next story and we have a surprise person that's gonna pay visit. And then we're gonna announce who won being on the podcast. But this surprise visit is just like, it's a tough one.

• 1:45:10Adam Sosnick?

  Surprise visit?

• 1:45:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, you'll see.

• 1:45:11Adam Sosnick?

  I'm so excited, I had no idea, but I'm excited.

• 1:45:13Patrick Bet-David?

  So.

• 1:45:14Adam Sosnick?

  Is it Dan Bongino?

• 1:45:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Hang tight. Netflix partnering with Barstool, removing Pardon My Take video from YouTube. This is an athletic story. So Netflix and Barstool Sports announced a multi-year partnership Wednesday that will bring the video versions of Pardon My Take and two other Barstool podcasts to the streaming platform beginning in early 2026. New episodes of Pardon My Take and a Ryan Rossello Show and a hockey podcast, Spitting Chicklets, will only be available on Netflix. Podcast listeners will be, still be able to get access to the audio episodes on other platforms. This partnership broadens how our members connect with Barstool's leading sports voices and delivery exactly what our members crave.

• 1:45:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Unfiltered commentary, sharp takes and undeniable humor, said Lawrence Smith, Netflix's Vice President of Content Licensing and Programming Strategy. Netflix announced a similar content sharing agreement with Spotify in October, starting early next year, next new episode, a new video episodes of Bill Simmons Podcast and several other podcasts produced by The Ringer, which Spotify owns, will be available on the Netflix episode as well. Tom, why is it such a big deal?

• 1:46:22Adam Sosnick?

  It's a big deal because.

• 1:46:25Tom Ellsworth?

  The Yankees, Dodgers, Red Sox of baseball haven't changed, but guess what? It's changing in media and there are new Yankees and new Dodgers and new Red Sox and Netflix is once upon a time, they were talked about very dismissively. Somebody called them as rebels. Oh, that's just a little group of rebels at the border as if they were just there. I'm the country. We're the kings. We're the territory. We're the big armies and Netflix, just a bunch of rebels. Now those rebels have a valuation that dwarfs some of those old kingdoms and Netflix is a kingdom. And Netflix is going out signing free agents. They're in deep and they're trying to win the Warner Discovery battle. And also there's a lot going on with podcasts.

• 1:47:10Tom Ellsworth?

  You've got the Red Ventures group that's aligned with Fox that's been out there buying people. Now they've come out and made their, their draft picks and they're signing free agents and they've signed to a video podcast deal. All those, the ones you just mentioned from Pardon My Take and The Ringer. And then across town, they also went across town and went and spoke to The Breakfast Club and Bobby Bones because they made a deal with iHeart Media to bring some of the iHeart Media audio podcasts over to the video world and they're signing that. So Netflix is signing free agents and trying to establish the video podcast beachhead because

• 1:47:54Tom Ellsworth?

  the, the new wars are there and the new, the new Yankees is paramount with the Ellison money. The new Dodgers is Netflix and what they've grown up to be. And you know, that's what, and the new Red Sox, you could argue they're another Yankees is YouTube TV and YouTube's got the money, but YouTube hasn't gone out and like paid a bunch of exclusives for people. They've built the platform that's built everybody there, but as podcasts are increasingly, I was reading that podcasts are now 71% viewed. Video is what's going on. 71% podcast viewing is video. So it's not just, oh, just get the TuneIn app or get the iHeart app or

• 1:48:34Adam Sosnick?

  You want to see, you want to see people.

• 1:48:35Tom Ellsworth?

  The people are seeing it. And so podcasts are increasingly video and Netflix is signing free agents and staking their claim to the future.

• 1:48:43Adam Sosnick?

  Who's the new Oklahoma City Thunder? That's the number one team in the league in the NBA.

• 1:48:47Tom Ellsworth?

  I, I don't know.

• 1:48:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Is this, is this Barstool talking about it? This is Dave Portnoy. Go for it.

• 1:48:53Speaker 07

  Emergency press conference time. If you haven't heard the news, I'm proud to announce that Barstool has partnered with Netflix for three of our top podcasts, exclusive video only on Netflix, starting next year. I'm talking, you want to watch a video, part of my take, Netflix. You want to watch a video of spit and chicklets? Netflix. I actually spit there. That's just my brain. You want to watch a video of Ryan Rusillo's show? Netflix, Netflix, Netflix. Exclusive video, audio, stay the same. Video, where? Netflix, Netflix, Netflix. We're proud to partner one of the best and breed companies. That's what we do at Barstool. Evolve, rotate, evolve. Video,

• 1:49:32Speaker 07

  next year, PMT, Chicklets, Ryan Rusillo, Netflix, Netflix, Netflix. Yeah.

• 1:49:40Adam Sosnick?

  So is it, do they only have three podcasts on there?

• 1:49:43Speaker 04

  No, they've got a ton of podcasts.

• 1:49:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Only three of them are moving to Netflix.

• 1:49:46Adam Sosnick?

  Got you. Okay, okay. So I think three of them are bigger ones. By the way, shout out to Dave Portnoy. I mean, not only has he built a brand, he's the main face of the brand, he's running the operation. I mean, PBD, there's not many guys like you and him out there that start an organization that are the face of the brand, that bring, you know, the talent. It's, you know, he's a super talented guy, super capable guy.

• 1:50:10Tom Ellsworth?

  He also got acquired, didn't like it, and got unacquired back on his charts.

• 1:50:15Adam Sosnick?

  Exactly.

• 1:50:15Patrick Bet-David?

  What do you think is, what do you think the deal is? How much you think the deal is with Netflix?

• 1:50:20Tom Ellsworth?

  Okay, I think it's a test deal for those three, but I think it's probably a three-year test deal, and I think it's probably definitely nine figures that Netflix is putting out there, because Netflix wants to get the beachhead. And remember what Spada, excuse me, Sirius did to get a beachhead? They went after Howard Stern, and they arguably overpaid for Howard Stern. That thing didn't pay off supposedly, that I read, for 10 years. But they went out and paid Howard a lot of money because they needed anchors. And I think Netflix is going out, and it would not surprise me to see that this was a nine-figure deal over the three years to get this, because it's what Netflix wants to do with The Magnet, and now they've also gone out and they got Breakfast Club and a couple others as.

• 1:51:03Tom Ellsworth?

  Viewership of podcasts is now 70% the number that I read.

• 1:51:08Speaker 04

  Seventy-one.

• 1:51:09Tom Ellsworth?

  Video, video, and so it's not the tune in app anymore. It's are you gonna, who are you gonna be on? Are you gonna be on Rumble? Are you gonna be on Netflix? Are you gonna be on YouTube? And they're, everybody's using the E word, exclusive.

• 1:51:21Speaker 04

  And those people, Tommy, if they don't have Netflix now, they have to subscribe.

• 1:51:25Tom Ellsworth?

  Yes.

• 1:51:25Speaker 04

  You feel me?

• 1:51:26Tom Ellsworth?

  Yes.

• 1:51:26Speaker 04

  Now all those people have to pay, how much is it a month?

• 1:51:28Tom Ellsworth?

  If you wanted Howard Stern, you had to go get Sirius.

• 1:51:31Speaker 04

  Sirius XM. So now it's like.

• 1:51:32Patrick Bet-David?

  And by the way, Rob ran the poll, would you like to see PBD and the team move to, move the podcast to Netflix? No, stay on YouTube, Spotify. Yes, move to Netflix. Ninety-three percent. Don't move, stay. Well, we're proud to announce.

• 1:51:49Speaker 04

  Guys.

• 1:51:49Patrick Bet-David?

  You imagine. But we're proud to announce that we have a special guest that's joining us right now.

• 1:51:54Speaker 04

  Are you serious right now?

• 1:51:55Patrick Bet-David?

  It's freezing where he's at, but we're proud to announce the one and only Santa Claus.

• 1:52:01Speaker 04

  Santa!

• 1:52:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Is with us today. Santa Corky. How are you, sir? How you doing?

• 1:52:08Patrick Bet-David?

  I can't hear him, Rob.

• 1:52:08Speaker 04

  There's the audio.

• 1:52:09Patrick Bet-David?

  You gotta unmute yourself. On the bottom left, press unmute.

• 1:52:12Speaker 04

  We got Santa with us.

• 1:52:13Patrick Bet-David?

  So she, there we go.

• 1:52:16Speaker 20

  Oh my goodness, it's so, I'm so excited to be here. This is wonderful. Why you guys have grown up a little bit in the last year?

• 1:52:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes, Santa, last year you were, you were a little bit like.

• 1:52:28Speaker 04

  Stingy?

• 1:52:28Patrick Bet-David?

  The naughty list was a little bit like, cause Adam was like a little bit in trouble. Do you think Adam's made any progress in the last 12 months from last year to this year?

• 1:52:36Speaker 04

  Check it. Oh wow, that's messed up.

• 1:52:38Speaker 20

  Well, it's been, it's been a, it's been slow progress, but I think he has, let me double, oh, wait a minute.

• 1:52:44Speaker 04

  Oh God.

• 1:52:45Speaker 20

  Well, I, well, the argument with him and Vinnie earlier on the show, oh my gosh, I was wondering, uh, names were starting to fade in and out between this list and, and naughty list, yeah.

• 1:52:57Patrick Bet-David?

  How do you, how do you feel about that? Like when you see something like that with, I mean, they have to know, these are smart guys. It's, it's a few days away from Christmas. Why would you behave that way? Do you, when you watch that, do you forgive them? Do you tell them they're human? How do you, how do you process that?

• 1:53:13Speaker 20

  Well, the thing is, I know both of them believe. That's the important part is believing. And you know, that's, that's a choice. And do you mind if I say a little, little thing about the

• 1:53:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Please, go for it.

• 1:53:26Speaker 20

  Believing. Somewhere along the way, adults decided belief was childish. That hope is weakness. That softness doesn't survive in a hard world. But the most broken people I have met aren't the ones who don't believe, who, who believe too much. They're the ones who stop believing at all. Every December, kids ask me for something. No kids should ever have to ask me.

• 1:54:02Speaker 20

  They want peace at home. Someone to come back home. Someone just to stay at home. Santa isn't about presents. It's about presence, being present. And you don't have to believe in Santa, but someone out there needs you to believe in them. And if you've lost belief this year, that's okay. Borrow mine. Borrow mine. I've got plenty.

• 1:54:36Patrick Bet-David?

  You're amazing. You're amazing. You know, this year, it's a, you know, my, my son Dylan, maybe you have a couple of words to say to Dylan, to Brooklyn, to Senna, maybe Tico. Dylan this year wrote the biggest list of things he, I'm sure you saw the letter. He sends it to you. We've already mailed it out. You know, biggest list of things that he wants, that Senna wants, that Brooklyn wants. You know, are we, are we, you know, when it comes down to it, you know, what, is there anything you want to share with Dylan, Senna and Brooklyn, you know, and maybe Tico, Tico's 13, but Dylan's 12. What do you have to share with them?

• 1:55:10Speaker 20

  Well, hey, you guys have done amazing job to stay on the nice list and I'm so very proud of you. I love the way that you've gotten along, the way that you've got into your studies and you keep learning more. But most of all, it's the love that you have with each other and I've noticed that love. And that is the most important part is how you guys react as a family together. And being able to get along and helping each other with each of their steps. And that's the part that I'm so very proud of and I'm so excited. I'm so excited for this Christmas because the elves have been working on something very special for you.

• 1:55:53Patrick Bet-David?

  That's amazing. That's great. They're gonna be excited. So happy. They're gonna be so happy. By the way, just kind of a little bit, just let's keep that between us. I know no one's watching. Brooklyn loves sweets, a little too much, like she's a private investigator. Loves them. If we hide it anywhere, she will find it. Uh, Senna, and by the way, I love the mug that you got. Great mug he's got going on, right? Senna wants a-

• 1:56:13Speaker 20

  Senna, what are you drinking, buddy?

• 1:56:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Senna wants a 3D printer. Okay. Yeah, Senna wants a 3D printer and then Dylan wants a bunch of dinosaur Legos. And then Tico wants stocks and mannequins. So I don't know, like, I'm just telling you. But you look great with that Merry Christmas hat. I love it. You look amazing. The future looks bright, right?

• 1:56:32Speaker 20

  This one's 25, number 25.

• 1:56:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, very cool. By the way, 25 in 2025, that's sad. Amazing. Senna, out of curiosity, I get a lot of parents that ask me, they'll say, can you introduce me to this person? Can you introduce, it's always like, can you introduce me to somebody?

• 1:56:50Patrick Bet-David?

  You know, they ask, probably right now, the text that I'm getting the most, parents are asking me, look, can you introduce me to Senna? And I'm like, I can't do stuff like that. He's a busy guy. But is there any way if parents want to have you or ask you a question about, you know, the kids and, you know, naughty list or something specific, as busy as you are, can, can, can parents mannequin you and get a video response back from you? Or maybe even schedule a 15 minute call so he can talk to the kid? Is that a possibility?

• 1:57:19Speaker 20

  Oh yeah, that's wonderful. I've done that a few times this year.

• 1:57:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Fantastic.

• 1:57:24Speaker 20

  And I'm very excited to say that, yeah, just manect me. It's Santa Corky. Santa Corky, C O R K Y. There it is, right there. Just go ahead and do the QR code, QR code right there and you can find me. And I gotta get that up there in the level with Vinny and, and PBD and those guys and Tom and, and Adam. My goodness, you guys are so good at that. But yeah, you can have a personal message from me. Text me. I'd be happy to do that.

• 1:57:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, Santa, appreciate you again. We know you got a busy schedule. There's gonna be a very, very busy season. You gotta get to work and I'm glad everybody's ready and, and excited about the season. Uh, wink, wink. Hopefully we'll see you next week. You know, when you come through, I'm gonna try to stay up to be able to see you, but to everybody that's, yeah, to everybody. Yeah, I mean, you're very fast, but to everybody.

• 1:58:11Speaker 20

  I've been trying for years.

• 1:58:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I have been. I've failed every single year I've failed, but I tried to get a glimpse of it. But God willing, this year is the year. But thank you so much for tuning in with us. Folks, if you want to talk to Santa, manect him. We're gonna put the manect QR code below as well, Rob, the link below so people can go to it. Santa Corky, take care. God bless. We love you, Santa. We believe Santa. Say hi to Hanukkah Harry for me also, please.

• 1:58:36Speaker 20

  Okay.

• 1:58:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, guys. All right, Jake. Uh, thank you, Santa. Rob, let's put that link below as well for people to go and send. By the way, I'm gonna tell you this, to, to all the parents that are watching this, I am telling you, go do it. See the reaction of your kids. First of all, you're helping Santa. But secondly, go do it. Show the reaction to the kids. See how they're gonna react when they get a direct message from the one and only Santa. Like, this is like a lifetime. Yeah. Like, I remember Will Ferrell in the movie, in the documentary Elf. You know, when he's, it was, it was, you know, it was a very true story when he says like, Santa's coming?

• 1:59:13Speaker 20

  Santa's coming.

• 1:59:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Santa's coming. Like, that reaction that you get even as adults, but that's a great thing. And last but not least, guys, before we wrap up, you know, we said during Christmas, Black Friday, if anybody spends a certain amount, you know, we're gonna do a raffle. We pick the winner. I called them. I recorded when I called him, just to see his reaction, because to see what he was gonna say. He was shell shocked, so we're gonna fly him out, okay? We got a picture of him and his family, they're so ecstatic that they're coming out, Rob. That's the picture, look at that right there with the family. That's going to meet the PBD Podcast family. The fellow in the middle with the kid on the shoulders, you can tell how excited. Big family. I love the enthusiasm of the son on the left, the one with the hair in his face. Most amazing hair you've ever seen in your life.

• 1:59:57Patrick Bet-David?

  What a level of enthusiasm, but everybody else, so we're gonna have you on. So, so Rob, if you can play the clip of me making a phone call to him. No, this is cool. That's by far the best one, go for it.

• 2:00:18Speaker 20

  Hello?

• 2:00:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Is this Efren?

• 2:00:21Speaker 20

  That is him.

• 2:00:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Efren Bariga.

• 2:00:24Speaker 20

  Yeah.

• 2:00:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Efren, do you know who this is?

• 2:00:27Speaker 20

  No.

• 2:00:28Patrick Bet-David?

  This is the number one customer service representative at ValueTainment PBD Podcast.

• 2:00:33Speaker 20

  Oh, yeah, I know you. No way.

• 2:00:36Patrick Bet-David?

  So you won, you're coming down to go to dinner and be on the podcast.

• 2:00:41Speaker 20

  That's awesome.

• 2:00:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I just.

• 2:00:45Speaker 20

  I never thought that.

• 2:00:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, listen, it was a lot of people, but your name got called and I wanted you to hear from me. So first, congrats. Number two, you're gonna get a call from the team. Tom is here as well, Tom, if you want to congratulate him as well. Congratulations, dude, looking forward to having you here. We're gonna take you out to dinner, you're gonna see how we do podcast prep. And then afterwards, we're gonna have you on the podcast, it's gonna be a great time.

• 2:01:14Speaker 20

  Dude, that's awesome.

• 2:01:15Patrick Bet-David?

  So just, the team is gonna call you. Can you imagine? He's gonna be sitting here, he'll be like, what do you think about the economy and the interest rates? I don't know, man. I'm just happy to be here.

• 2:01:27Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, I'm happy to be here next. And his name is what?

• 2:01:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Ephraim Bariga. Ephraim Bariga.

• 2:01:33Adam Sosnick?

  What I love about this. He's a real estate professional, so. We've never heard of him. We've never met him. It's definitely not a rigged system.

• 2:01:40Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, no.

• 2:01:41Adam Sosnick?

  We didn't bring in Zac Efron. We're bringing in Ephron from.

• 2:01:44Patrick Bet-David?

  We literally did a, what do you call it?

• 2:01:46Adam Sosnick?

  Spin wheel. Like a round robin thing.

• 2:01:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, so the name popped up. They're like, this is it. And we had our legal team there like, all right, that's great. Congratulations to them. We're gonna have a good time. We're gonna take them to.

• 2:01:54Adam Sosnick?

  Ephron, just you and your son are there. If you're not ready to debate, I'm gonna ask you, what's your point? Yeah. Straight to your face, buddy. Well, he told us he works in real estate, so he may hold his own on those topics.

• 2:02:04Patrick Bet-David?

  All right, that's gonna be great.

• 2:02:05Adam Sosnick?

  Looking forward to him.

• 2:02:06Patrick Bet-David?

  All right.

• 2:02:06Adam Sosnick?

  But Pat, a shout out to you for just opening this up to our audience. Like, anyone could have won.

• 2:02:11Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm so curious how it's gonna turn out, because if it turns out great, we may do many more of these. But it's gonna be exciting. Anyways, gang, great to be on with you guys. To those of you guys that placed your order on the Faith Over Fear, go to the link below, place your order. I saw one guy that ordered 20, almost 20, I think it was, 20 hats one guy ordered.

• 2:02:30Adam Sosnick?

  A faith over fear?

• 2:02:31Patrick Bet-David?

  This is a great thing to give gift to others. Go place your orders, get the shirts, go to VTmerch.com to place the order. And we will be launching an interview tomorrow morning at 9 a.m. As well as we have a very interesting person that'll be interviewed. I won't say when. And then he'll be launching, this is with all the stuff that's going on with Australia. I'm trying to find out more about what's going on with Australia. But Adam, you look like you wanna say.

• 2:02:55Adam Sosnick?

  No, no, just today, we have a big day at the office. I don't wanna.

• 2:02:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes, we do.

• 2:02:59Adam Sosnick?

  We have a massive day. Can I say it? It's our. Ah, company.

• 2:03:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I mean, it's, we're, we're, we're doing something today at the office.

• 2:03:07Adam Sosnick?

  We're doing something today at the office. I'm excited to see everybody we work with.

• 2:03:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, it's gonna be great. We're gonna have a good time.

• 2:03:12Adam Sosnick?

  Be together. Faith over fear. Merry Christmas. Santa Corky.

• 2:03:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes.

• 2:03:16Adam Sosnick?

  Minectum. Go for it. The Hanukkah party's tomorrow. Don't miss it. That's true. Tom, you might catch an invite to the White House next time with that kinda attitude. Vinnie, you're out, buddy.

• 2:03:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Guys, God bless. Have a great weekend. We'll do it again next week. Take care, everybody. Bye bye, bye bye. Go Minex Santa.

• 2:03:34Speaker 21

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