"Islam Has FAILED" - Tommy Robinson BLASTS Islam Invasion, Muslim Grooming Gangs & Media Silence | PBD Podcast | Ep. 598

Tommy Robinson, a polarizing figure in the UK, reveals the dark truth behind the country's grooming gangs and the cover-ups by political elites. With courage and resilience, he exposes corruption, free speech violations, and systemic injustice, challenging the establishment for a better future. ---- Ⓜ️ MINNECT WITH TOMMY ROBINSON: https://bit.ly/43FeUTA 📚 GET TOMMY'S BOOK: https://bit.ly/4jO2vkZ Ⓜ️ MINNECT 2025 CONTEST - REGISTER TODAY: https://bit.ly/4ikyEkC 📱 MINNECT 2025 CONTEST - REGISTER TODAY: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4ikyEkC⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4ikyEkC 🎫 THE VAULT 2025 | SEPT 8TH - 11TH | THE GAYLORD PALMS | ORLANDO, FL: ⁠https://bit.ly/4dJlmfL⁠ https://bit.ly/4dJlmfL 🍋 ZEST IT FORWARD: ⁠https://bit.ly/4jYg3Lh⁠ https://bit.ly/4jYg3Lh 📕 PBD'S BOOK "THE ACADEMY": ⁠https://bit.ly/41rtEV4⁠ https://bit.ly/41rtEV4 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON SPOTIFY: ⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g57zR2⁠ https://bit.ly/4g57zR2 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ITUNES: ⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g1bXAh⁠ https://bit.ly/4g1bXAh 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ALL PLATFORMS: ⁠https://bit.ly/4eXQl6A⁠ https://bit.ly/4eXQl6A 📱 CONNECT ON MINNECT: ⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4ikyEkC⁠ https://bit.ly/4ikyEkC 👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: ⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3ZjWhB7⁠ https://bit.ly/3ZjWhB7 📰 VTNEWS. AI: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3OExClZ⁠ https://bit.ly/3OExClZ 🎓 VALUETAINMENT UNIVERSITY: ⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3BfA5Qw⁠ https://bit.ly/3BfA5Qw 📺 JOIN THE CHANNEL: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g5C6Or⁠ https://bit.ly/4g5C6Or 💬 TEXT US: Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time! ABOUT US: Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.

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• 0:55Patrick Bet-David?

  So Tommy Robinson got out of prison 10 days ago. We wanted to do podcasts with him. He reached out, we spoke. Can't do it in the States. Last time he came, he got arrested. So we're going to Bahamas to interview the controversial Tommy Robinson.

• 1:08Speaker 03

  I have to be careful what I say here because I'll go straight back to jail. I'm currently under another gagging order. I just wish that someone would have come to my country 30 years ago, 40 years ago, and said, here's what's going to happen.

• 1:18Patrick Bet-David?

  People call you racist. People call you Islamophobic. Where is the passion coming for you to want to go up and do something about this?

• 1:25Speaker 03

  They're getting our young girls hooked on heroin, and then they're prostituting them in pedophile gangs. The government know, the police know, religious leaders know. There's a conspiracy of...

• 1:33Patrick Bet-David?

  How is that possible?

• 1:34Speaker 03

  They control it. The drugs, the violence, in every town and city is controlled by the Muslim community in the UK now. They are the mafia. And this is what Americans really need to get ready for.

• 1:42Patrick Bet-David?

  But who is for you now?

• 1:44Speaker 03

  Elon Musk spoke up on my behalf. Our entire prison system is controlled by Islamic jihadist gangs.

• 1:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Yours.

• 1:49Speaker 03

  Now, yours will be soon as well. America needs to wake the hell up. Muslims beheaded...

• 1:53Patrick Bet-David?

  In jail.

• 1:53Speaker 03

  In jail. Took his head off. They stabbed him up, and then they held him on a yard, and then they used bed shoes. I don't think anyone understands what's happening. They're going to convert your youth. And when they convert your youth through the prison system or on the streets, they're going to turn them so quickly and so fast against America.

• 2:07Patrick Bet-David?

  The UK is a very proud country. You guys were known as the power, the empire.

• 2:12Speaker 03

  You need to come and look at what London looks like now. You need to come and look at our cities. They're gone. They're never coming back. This will be viewed as the darkest stain on British history.

• 2:42Speaker 04

  My handshake is better than anything I ever signed, right here.

• 2:46Speaker 05

  You are a one of one?

• 2:47Speaker 04

  My son's right there. I don't think I've ever said this before.

• 2:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Tommy Robinson, how you doing, man?

• 2:56Speaker 03

  I'm good, thank you.

• 2:56Patrick Bet-David?

  It's good to finally do this, brother.

• 2:58Speaker 03

  It's nice to meet you.

• 2:58Patrick Bet-David?

  And I know, yes, likewise as well, this is the first time we're meeting. And we looked at a lot of different locations to do it, but we're in Bahamas right now. So tell me why Bahamas, why are we here?

• 3:09Speaker 03

  Why here, not America?

• 3:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes.

• 3:11Speaker 03

  I was given an invite by 10 members of Congress to visit the United States to give a discussion on free speech in 2019. And when I went to the American MC in London, swam my visa, 45 British MPs had voted them to block my entry. Forty-five, that is four times as many British MPs who had ever spoke about the national rape scandal that had happened in our country. So our politicians were more interested in preventing my speech in the United States because giving a warning to the United States than they were about tackling the rape scandal. But I'm here, I do have a criminal history, which we can get on to. I said I've been targeted with lawfare since I first opened my mouth back in 2009. I faced a huge onslaught.

• 3:53Speaker 03

  And I also travelled to the United States in 2010. So I travelled there in 2009 for the first time. I started my activism in 2009, where I formed an organisation which took to the streets in the UK. This is before the rise of social media. So we took to the streets in the UK because I was, what I'd seen happening in my hometown and the problems I'd seen worked was the attack on free speech. The, when I was born in 1982, we had one mosque in Lewin. We now have 45, white English are a minority. So I'd witnessed the problems that that brings. And then I started an organisation to try and highlight the problems that no one was able to speak about and that the police weren't tackling, the government weren't tackling.

• 4:35Speaker 03

  And from that moment on, I faced, in the first six months, I had three police raids. And I went to travel to the United States 2009. I was detained at JFK Airport and I was told by the Americans who detained me that the British had told them not to let me in. So I was deported. But I went back the next year. And when I went back the next year. I illegally entered the United States.

• 4:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Legally.

• 4:57Speaker 03

  I went back on a friend's passport. And I knew what I was doing was wrong when I went there, but I gave a speech. I got in. I got in. I gave a speech and an event in New York and my speech was called a warning to America. So when I done it, I thought I may end up in in trouble in the United States here, but I felt that passionately that America needs to understand the problems that we've faced. I just wish that someone would have come to my country thirty years ago, forty years ago, and said, here's what's going to happen. And gave a warning. So I went to America, I gave a I gave a speech and then I flew home. I was detained about six weeks later by the British police and I'll spend spent ten months in prison for that. I only spent two days in two days in America. I was detained. I spent twenty two weeks on solitary confinement.

• 5:40Patrick Bet-David?

  For the speech?

• 5:41Speaker 03

  For for for illegally enter America because I booked two flights.

• 5:47Patrick Bet-David?

  But isn't that a crime for the US, not for the UK?

• 5:49Speaker 03

  The US were not interested. I read all the documentation. They didn't care, but what the UK done is remanded me in prison. So they so from when they arrested me, they put me straight in prison and I wasn't allowed bail.

• 5:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Hmm.

• 6:00Speaker 03

  They said I was a flight risk because of the passport incident. So then by the time I got to court, which was three and a half months later, they said, if you plead not guilty, you're going to sit here for another six months to nine months, wait a waiting trial. If you plead guilty, you've got a chance of getting out. So I pled guilty and they let me out eight weeks later.

• 6:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Eight weeks later. So it's interesting you're saying this because for me, when when I talk to friends or guys about Tommy Robinson, you know, it's a very interesting reaction that we get. In the morning, we're sitting here, literally an hour and a half prior to this, me and Rob are out there, kind of going through finalizing the notes. And I see this fellow with his wife to our left. He keeps going like this to me. He keeps looking at me. And you can tell he's Middle Eastern, maybe Indian, but I don't know yet. But he's paying attention to what we're talking about. We're watching videos and we're going through a couple of things. Then he comes back and he says, hey, I heard you're talking about UK and, you know, what's going on there and Muslims and Sikhs and all this other stuff. I say, yeah, so what do you think about what's going on there? Well, let me tell you what's going on. So what do you think about Tommy Robinson? So Tommy Robinson. I says, yeah, what do you think about it?

• 6:59Patrick Bet-David?

  He says, well, you know, you have to know that, I said, you're at a nice resort. I'm assuming you make money or successfully. He said, I'm from education. He says, Tommy Robinson, man, he's been arrested, he's been in trouble, he's done this, he's done that. But a lot of my friends who couldn't stand him twenty years ago are now siding with him. I said, really? He says, a lot of people are agreeing with him now. I said, why are they agreeing with him? He says, well, I used to live in London, now I'm out. I saw what was going on at Sheffield, is it Sheffield, uh, uh, what did he call the, uh, uh, Schofield or Sheffield, one of the cities?

• 7:31Speaker 03

  There isn't a city, who Sheffield?

• 7:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Then that's where he's from, he says Sheffield, he says, you know, when I lived there, it was something else twenty years ago versus what it is today. So, you, we know when we watch you, what you're against. People call you racist, people call you Islamophobic. I said, what would you ask him? He says, ask him if he's racist or not. I said, he's been asked that many times, right? So, I'd like to know, for a lot of people that maybe don't know your story. I've watched the documentary, I've seen your content over the years. I've seen you back and forth with peers from ten years ago to now, to all the stuff you got going on, I see your feud with you and Dan Bolzerian online and, you know, there's a lot of different things that's going on. What are you against, what are you for?

• 8:15Speaker 03

  I'm for Britain. Um, I love my country, I want my children to grow up in a safe and prosperous Britain. And there is no one, like the gentleman you spoke to, if you ask them, is the country going in the right direction? There will be no one that will say yes. And you know about the saying, we live in a free country? You won't hear anyone say that in Britain anymore. So those people, like the gentleman you spoke to, all I'm guilty of is being a decade ahead. I was so far ahead of everyone else who now sees the problems. And the reason I was so far ahead is, as I said, I was born in Luton Town. I've watched the change, I've seen it firsthand. And when I grew up, you have to understand, Luton is a multicultural town. And if you line up my friends and you took twenty of us, we're all sons of immigrants. My mother was an Irish immigrant. My friends are St. Lucian, Bulgarian, Italian, Jamaican. We're all sons of immigrants. But growing up in that town gives me,

• 9:01Speaker 03

  so many other communities get blamed for the problem of immigration that we're seeing in the UK. And I take a lot of flak from this, from all sides. So, David Cameron come out and said multiculturalism has, multiculturalism has failed when he was the Prime Minister of Great Britain. Angela Merkel said multiculturalism has failed. For me, I think that's weak and it's cowardice, because Islam has failed. The Sikhs haven't failed, the Jews haven't failed, the Hindus haven't failed. In fact, none of the, no other communities have failed to integrate and assimilate into Great Britain. It worked, it's worked, and my hometown, and I can only speak by experience, is a perfect example of that. So any journalists who come to Luton, which is where the English defensively started, and it was born out of frustration. Luton, by the C E A, was named as the epicentre for terrorist atrocities in Europe, that's Luton.

• 9:46Speaker 03

  The head office of Al-Majradeen, Omar Bakri, Abu Hamza, some of the country's most feared radical jihadists, their head office was in my town. So, some, and to some people, this is a faraway story. When people go to fight for ISIS or they commit terrorist atrocities, it's just something you read in the news. I went to school with them, I grew up with them then. I've got friends who I grew up with who converted to Islam in jail, who are now part of those groups who have done jail for becoming ISIS terrorists. So, I've experienced all of that, and growing up in Luton, when we went to school, there was the Muslim playground and the non-Muslim playground. We didn't create that, there was just a non, there's total, no assimilation, and I challenge every journalist that comes with me, I challenge anyone.

• 10:28Speaker 03

  And any American journalists who have come, I've had them come from The New Yorker, all different magazines, I said, right, I'll meet you in Luton. I said, now I'll give you a challenge, you go out in that town and find me Muslims with and non-Muslim, just find me one. That aren't selling drugs, find me a group of Muslims that have non-Muslim friends in amongst them. You just won't do it, you will not find it. Every group of white children are with black children, every group of black children are with white children. I did, and I bring it back to even our school dinner tables. When you go into our school dinner halls, everyone's sitting in a mix, whites, blacks, Indians, Chinese, because we're very diverse. And in the corner, there's eight, 10 tables of Muslims. So I, I watched that growing up, I experienced the hostility, the, the difference, growing up in a town like that.

• 11:11Speaker 03

  So when people say multiculturalism's failed, I say Islam's failed, and you're too weak to admit that. So when we had the rape gang scandal, which to any American viewers, to understand how big of a problem this was. In 2004, I was 20 and I organised...

• 11:28Speaker 03

  I organised my first ever demonstration, I called it Band the Luton Taliban. And I made leaflets, and I actually presented these leaflets at, because people think I've changed.

• 11:36Patrick Bet-David?

  This is at twenty years old?

• 11:37Speaker 03

  This is at twenty years old. Now, twenty, I left school, I done well at school. Luton is a, Luton's the roughest town in the UK. It has the most poverty, it's a rough and violent town.

• 11:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Were you ever part of a gang growing up or no?

• 11:48Speaker 03

  No, no, not part of any gang. Many of my friends, just because of where I grew up, are involved in criminality.

• 11:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Tough guys?

• 11:54Speaker 03

  Tough, yeah.

• 11:54Patrick Bet-David?

  At sixteen years old, what were you doing?

• 11:56Speaker 03

  At sixteen years old, I left school and I done an aeronautical engineering apprenticeship with Britannia Airways. So I studied for four years to fix aeroplanes, to become an engineer.

• 12:05Patrick Bet-David?

  I saw that, yeah.

• 12:06Speaker 03

  Yeah, so, so I did that. I done well, I, I didn't try at school, but I naturally done well. I got an A in, in maths, I got five Bs, five Cs and Gs, Cs. But I never try.

• 12:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Were you always in trouble in high school or no?

• 12:18Speaker 03

  Um.

• 12:20Speaker 03

  Trouble was in, I was a jack the lad.

• 12:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Were you arrested?

• 12:23Speaker 03

  No, never arrested, nothing like that, no.

• 12:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Fights, you know, altercations?

• 12:27Speaker 03

  There was fights and altercations. What, what I thought was normal growing up, I realised wasn't normal, it was just team normal to us in Luton. Luton's a very violent town. And problems were dealt with violence, whether it be one score against another, there was a lot of problems.

• 12:40Patrick Bet-David?

  When you say violent town, like who came from Luton? Names that we would know? So like, is there history?

• 12:45Speaker 03

  Andrew Tate, Andrew Tate's from Luton.

• 12:47Patrick Bet-David?

  He's from Luton as well, really interesting, because you know, initially, he's the one that, uh, uh, told me, put me in contact with you, originally when we're talking. So, okay, so you're coming up in a place like that, but at twenty years old, which is, oh, four, twenty-one years ago, where is the passion coming for you to want to go up and do something about this?

• 13:06Speaker 03

  Twenty years old, I'd seen, I had a cousin who was sexually groomed. We call them grooming gangs, they're rape gangs. So I had a cousin who was taken by the Pakistani community. She was raped continuously, she woke up one time in a flat and there's loads of bearded men all raping her. She run naked through the streets, it was the prostitute, she was only a child. And there was a prostitute, then rang her dad, her dad's gone to get her, but she kept escaping the house to get back to the gangs.

• 13:30Patrick Bet-David?

  How old was she at the time?

• 13:31Speaker 03

  She would have been thirteen.

• 13:33Patrick Bet-David?

  They're doing this to her at thirteen years old?

• 13:34Speaker 03

  They do it, they do it younger than thirteen.

• 13:36Patrick Bet-David?

  And this is your first cousin?

• 13:37Speaker 03

  This is our cousin, yeah.

• 13:38Patrick Bet-David?

  First cousin?

• 13:39Speaker 03

  No, my cousin's, my cousin's cousin.

• 13:41Patrick Bet-David?

  So like a second cousin?

• 13:42Speaker 03

  Second cousin, yeah.

• 13:42Patrick Bet-David?

  And somebody that you interact with, you know this girl?

• 13:44Speaker 03

  No, yeah, and I remember listening as a child to all the family meetings about it. So the family would all be having meetings, but this may sound unbelievable to people. The police wouldn't do anything, they just called her a drug addict. Not a child, not a victim, a drug addict.

• 13:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Was she one, was she?

• 13:59Speaker 03

  Yeah, because what they do is, the process is, they get, they get a young girl. And they groom them, and the grooming period is, they give them trainers, they give them phones, they give them alcohol, cigarettes. And they, they're nice to them, at first. And then they get their confidence and they separate them from their family. They say, your mum and dad don't trust you, they, they treat you like a little child. And there's a process that these children go through. And then they get them into sexual relationships with one man at first. And then that man will manipulate the girl, and before they know it, there's ten men on them. And then literally, there's stories which people would find amazing, that in some of the houses, the girls were in the houses. And there's men queuing at the doors to go in one by one, to rape them and rape them and rape them. And people, so I'd seen this.

• 14:41Speaker 03

  And in two thousand, I was, as I said, I was successful, I was doing right for a young man. And it was the Beslan massacre, you know, the Beslan school massacre? To anyone who doesn't watch that, you should watch it. I was young and I remember watching it, and I was nineteen, twenty, I think, at the time. And I saw that in Russia, the Chechenians had gone into a school. And the jihadists had took over the school. And all the parents were outside the school. So imagine this, your kids are in school. And you hear there's terrorists have took control of the school. So the parents are outside the school, and I remember watching the mums drop on their knees. And, and the parents as, as they started massacring the children inside the school. So all their kids are getting murdered. And I remember watching it thinking, that's not one person doing it, there was a whole group of men that done it.

• 15:25Speaker 03

  And then just a month later, I'm watching Muslims in Luton get interviewed in a chicken shop in Luton. And they're saying that this was a justified attack, and it would be justified in a, in an English school. And from that moment on, that was my, my moment, because I remember, I watched this man say it. His name was Saiful Islam, which is Sword of Islam. And I watched him say it, and I thought, who is he? And by this time, I was involved in, you know, the football scene in the UK, where many would look at it as a football hooligan scene. Where lots of young men go to football together and certain clubs would have rivalries with each other. I was involved in the football scene. I remember looking at this group, and that was my awakening. I looked at the group and I saw Almaz Radin, the man that was talking.

• 16:07Speaker 03

  And then the more I looked at them, I saw Omar Bakri, Abu Hamza, I saw all of them were part of this group. Sixty percent of the terrorists in UK jails are part of this group. And then when I looked at them, I saw the head office was on Biscuit Road. So I started looking at what they were saying, and on their website, and then they had a paste table set up in our town centre. We have a bakery called Don Miller's. And I went down to the paste table and watched what they were doing. They were literally recruiting to send people to fight against our armed forces at the time, Afghanistan and Iraq. And they were openly doing it, celebrating it, sending so many Muslims out there to be radicalised, to fight in jihad. And I'm thinking, how are they doing this in our town centre? How are they? How old were you at the time? Twenty. Twenty. Yeah, I was twenty at the time. So then I made leaflets.

• 16:50Speaker 03

  And remember, we'd seen our daughters, our cousins, our relatives, so many girls at school. When I went to school, I knew so many girls that were being raped and prostituted. But at the time, as children, we just saw them as being with all the older Pakistani men. So a lot of the kids would view the girls as slags. We were looking at the girls, thinking they were with all the older Pakistanis. As children, we weren't viewing them as victims. It's only as you grow up that you realise they're kids and they're being taken by men and raped. But so I'd watched all these things going on. I'd seen a lot of it. So then when I saw them outside the town, when I saw them doing these protests, I wrote leaflets. And I called it Ban the Luton Taliban. And I went to all the lads that went to football and said, we've got to do something about these terrorists. They're in our town centre every Saturday.

• 17:34Speaker 03

  And the more I'd looked into them, the more I was... Then I started looking at Islam and understanding why these people think the way they do, what's their ideology. And I'll be honest, it terrified me. It terrified me that there was such a large group operating day in, day out that weren't being challenged. So I wrote these leaflets. And in the leaflets, I said, whites and blacks are being religiously and racially targeted. And I say this because we have, if you're black or you're white, and there were drug dealers or criminals within communities, which are in every community. The police would crush them. But the Islamic community, they're driving around in Lamborghinis and Ferraris. We know which shops they're using to front heroin. And I said in this leaflet that they're using heroin as a weapon against our communities.

• 18:17Speaker 03

  And they're getting our young girls hooked on heroin and then they're prostituting them in paedophile gangs. And this was in 2000, so no one knew about this. And this leaflet went on the front page of my newspaper, local newspaper. And in it, I said that we don't have a problem with your average Muslim, but there's a problem what's going on here and someone needs to tackle it. Now the response I got from that, I faced full backlash from every single Pakistani Muslim gang, because our town is all 50% Pakistani. They wanted to target me, they wanted to attack me, my mum's house got smashed up. And in that leaflet, I named a gang. They're called the Gambino Gang in Luton. Very original for Pakistanis, calling themselves the Gambino Gang. But they, they deal with all the prostitution, the drugs. And that was in 2000. Now, fast

• 18:58Speaker 03

  forward to 2007, our national newspapers started running articles about how the Gambino Gang are linked with the jihadist groups, and how they're funding all the terrorism. But I've done this in 2000, and I faced a massive onslaught for it. I faced violence, I faced attacks. But growing up at that time, as our football group, there was quite a few of English lads as well. And it was a, a bit of a battle over us not wanting to back down to the takeover of the town. Fast forward then to, we get to 2009, um, and the soldiers are doing a homecoming parade. But by the time we get to 2009, it's happening in 2004. Over those five years, I've gone on to set up a plumbing, a plumbing business, I had a solarium shop, I had seven properties. So I'm doing well, and my passion is making

• 19:43Speaker 03

  money. So my passion is making money. And like most people, I, I, I could have turned a blind eye to what was happening. 2009, our soldiers are given the freedom to walk through the town on a homecoming parade. This same group, Al Mujahideen, have, I turned up on a Tuesday morning in the town centre. And when I turned up, I see so many police, and it was for the parade. I see police everywhere. I thought, what's going on? And I see about 30 or 40 women, all, all with the niqab together, which is quite a sight anyway. And then, and then as I looked, I started spotting the jihadists. Saiful Islam, Roger Ibrahim, all of their main, all their main extremists. And I realised, they're going to attack the troops. That's what's going to happen here. But then I watched as the police took

• 20:25Speaker 03

  these jihadists, which are, they, they are ISIS, and threw my town hall. So my town hall is in the town centre. They opened up the doors, they took all the jihadists through the town hall. And I'm thinking, what's going on? And then I just heard all the commotion. And as the soldiers had marched down the back of the road, they brought all the jihadists out next to them. And then the jihadists were screaming at them, baby killers, butchers of Basra. They spat in some of the soldiers' mums faces. And that was the catalyst that then then gave birth to the organisation we formed. I watched it that day. And after this, I sat down with my cousin at the time, and some of the other lads and said, they can't get away with this. Like, what's happening in our town? It cannot be. And Luton, every time Luton, just Google Luton and terrorism,

• 21:07Speaker 03

  yeah? Five men found guilty after abusive chance. That's them. But you see, Biki, the one on left, he went to my school. This is the

• 21:15Patrick Bet-David?

  With the beer?

• 21:16Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, he went to my school. See, the difference is, many people

• 21:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Who is the guy on the left? Who's the one in the middle? Who's the one on the right?

• 21:22Speaker 03

  They're, they're, so there's a group, they're part of this extremist jihadist group. All of them now have gone for terrorism. Four of them are dead. They went and fought for ISIS. But at the time, you have to understand that this, they were not a prescribed group. They ended up becoming a prescribed terrorist organisation, but only because we took them on. They were allowed. You know, the scenes of Abu Hamza with the hook in Finsbury Park, where hundreds of Muslims in the streets, and he's calling for war and calling for jihad. No one was stopping them.

• 21:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Mohammed Hajar?

• 21:52Speaker 03

  No, no, not Mohammed Hajar, Abu Hamza with the hook. He's a terrorist with a hook. But back when this was going on, so this was going on in Luton, I watched that day. And then, so we've got to do something. And if you Google Luton, every time my town, I'm quite tribal. I think many Brits are, I'm quite tribal about my town, about my school, about my football club. And every time you heard Luton town mentioned, it was to do with terrorists. And this incident, but this went worldwide. And every time our town, and I love our town, I love my town. It's part of who I am. And every time it's mentioned, it's to do with extremism and jihadists and terrorist plots. Seven seven seven seven plot, they planted their bombs in Luton, fertilizer bomb

• 22:34Speaker 03

  plot, Luton, Stockholm bomber, Luton. Like, so many of the world's planned jihadist attacks have been born out of my town. And that, and that happened because no one confronted them. The security services didn't tackle them. We then formed an organisation and our purpose was to confront these gangs. And then it forced the government to prescribe them as terrorist groups. But they hadn't been prescribed. What they'd been given as jihadis is a free rein for twenty to thirty years to radicalise and recruit in our towns and cities across the country. I thought it was a local Luton issue. Remember, I hadn't really left Luton. I was twenty years old. By the time this happened, I was twenty five.

• 23:15Speaker 03

  So we started an organisation to challenge what they were doing, highlight what they were doing, which gave birth to the English Defence League, which spread across the country. I went from being that, working on a building site, to six months later being the leader of the biggest street protest movement Europe had seen.

• 23:31Patrick Bet-David?

  This is the EDL.

• 23:32Speaker 03

  This is the EDL. And um.

• 23:36Speaker 03

  We travelled the country and we took to the streets and what, and very, and it went like that, to explain it, it went like that. We went from this incident with, against our soldiers and they attacked them. So then I organised a protest in response to it to show that the people of Luton support our armed forces. And when we turned up that day, the police kettled us and I brought a cameraman because, just because I knew what they'd do. So I watched that day as the terrorists were taken through the town hall. And when people got angry, the police drew their batons on the English. They, they didn't even look at the Muslims. They weren't searched. Nothing happened. They were just allowed to spew their hate. We organised something in response to that. And when we turned up, I brought a cameraman. He was a wedding photographer, a wedding cameraman. It was four hundred and fifty pounds. I said, I just want you to film everything.

• 24:20Speaker 03

  And then when we turned up in the town centre, they put us against the walls, cameras in our faces. What's your name? Take your shoes off. Put their hands, searched us. And as they're doing it, I said, you didn't do this to them. You didn't search them. When they attacked our armed forces, you didn't search them. You didn't take their names. You didn't abuse them the way you're abusing us right now. And then when we went to try and get to the war memorial, our big thing was, this happened at our war memorial. For our armed forces. In that regiment, Scott Muntridge had died, he's from our estate. Another boy who was nineteen lost his legs. We went to pay our respects and they were attacked. So it was a real, I said, you could have lit a match and our town would have blown up. That's the feeling in the town, how angry and frustrated we were.

• 25:01Speaker 03

  So as we turned up to show our, our support for our armed forces, which was a march, it was a bank holiday Sunday, the bank holiday, bank holiday weekend. The police stopped us from getting to Walmart. They come on horses. And we made it very clear, Luton is a diverse town. When you try and talk about these issues, anything nationalist, anything waving the St George's flag or the Union flag. It attracts, I always said it attracts the brave and it also attracts some idiots. Now, so National Front are a neo-Nazi sort of organisation. But we, we thought the groups like this may, may try and turn up. So we made it clear from the start. National Front not welcome in our banners. In our first banners, we said, Nigerian Christians, we stand with you.

• 25:45Speaker 03

  Because the more I was learning, I looked and that year, five Christian churches had been blown up on Christmas, on Christmas Day in Nigeria. Didn't even make our news. So I was looking at this jihad that was going on around the world and I, I was going down a rabbit hole and understanding what it was and looking at all these things. Thought, right, we'll, we'll go and show our support for our armed forces. And as we turn up to show our support for our armed forces. The police kettled us and for three hours, they held our community. My auntie was there. She had to urinate in the street. My friend, who's a little mixed race boy, the police come passing a horse and hit him in the face with a Trojan, knocked his teeth out. And from that day then, it was like, we can't even protest about it. Like, you didn't stop them. And do you know what? Why though? Why didn't they stop them? They had never said no to the Islamic community.

• 26:30Speaker 03

  Why though? They're scared of them. Of why? So in the, there was Bradford, the riots in Bradford, I think, which were in two thousand and one. There was mass riots in Bradford where the Pakistani community come out and burned Bradford. But when they burned Bradford, when they burned Bradford, they burned Oldham, they burnt, so the riots spread. And I learned a lot of this by then talking to the police as well. There was, from the point of these riots, they basically just got appeased for everything and anything. So that's fearful. And what the Islamic community do?

• 26:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Second largest population in South Asia in the UK city with approximately 68,000 Pakistanis, 12,500 Indians, 5,000 Bangladeshis, 3,000 Asians, however, majority of people in the city, ethnicity 78.3% white, 19.1% South Asian. So.

• 27:13Speaker 03

  Now, now that's changed. That's at least 50, 60% Muslim.

• 27:17Patrick Bet-David?

  The city.

• 27:17Speaker 03

  Yeah. But, but from when they done this, the riots spread to five, six, seven, eight cities. Now, the Islamic community continually hold this and our government, our politicians, all of them are so scared of them.

• 27:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Why?

• 27:32Speaker 03

  Because of the violence, because they.

• 27:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, so from the outside, we're watching it, right? So I like numbers. So I go up and I said, okay, so I'm born and raised in Iran. So I lived in Iran for 11 years. I know what it's like to eliminate Muslim nation, what it's like, the tensions, the, the way they treat others. So I said, okay, let me find out what the, you were born in 84?

• 27:50Speaker 03

  I was born in 82.

• 27:51Patrick Bet-David?

  82, okay. So Muslim population in EU from 84 till today, EU total, 84, 6 million, 2004, 13 million, 2025, 25 million. So they went 6 million, 13 million, 25 million today. They're doubling every 20 years. They'll be at 50 million in 2044 and then 100 million in 2064. Let's go to US. US 84, 1.2 million, 2004, 2.35 million, 2020, 24, today, 4.5 million. We're doubling every 20 years. We're at 4.5 million. Let's go to Canada. Canada 8,450,000, then they went to 600,000, then they went to 1.8 million.

• 28:34Patrick Bet-David?

  They're three X-ing every 20 years. So Canada's competing as well. But why are so many people afraid of them? I keep asking this question. The UK is a very proud country. At one point, financial capital of the world, everything flowed through you. You guys were known as the power, the empire. Why are they so afraid of this community that's completely destroying their identity?

• 28:58Speaker 03

  It's a mixture of things. It's a mixture of fear, but it also illustrates the power of political correctness. The power, and this is what Americans really need to get ready for. Because I see a lot of frustration coming out of America to do with immigration over the years for Hispanic immigration. And I'm sitting thinking, you've got no idea. Your borders have just been opened by Biden. You, it's changed. You had Mexican immigration for so many years. I wish we had Mexican immigration. When the Polish comes to the UK and people are moaning, I think, what are you moaning about? Well, because I'm from Luton. They're hardworking. They're Catholic. They're family orientated. They are, there will be some TV problems, like there were because my mum come from Ireland. But they will be proud in the end of their country and they will assimilate and integrate.

• 29:41Speaker 03

  But you have just allowed open border mass immigration to eight million, 10 million, however many have come through your borders. And the numbers, the numbers is the biggest problem. And you've now had Syrians, Somalians, Pakistanis, Afghans, and all you have to do is just basics. Just look at the way they think in those countries and don't take Tommy Robinson's opinion. Look at Pew Research, any of the top research things. Ninety-nine percent of Afghans want Sharia law. Their views on homosexuality, their views on free speech, their views on, all the things are alien to ours. And the problem is, once they come in and come such a powerful vote bank, like the numbers you just went through. I looked at the numbers from Manchester. So in Manchester, we had the terrorist attack at the Ariana Grande concert.

• 30:21Speaker 03

  When I looked at those numbers, they had 25,000 Muslims. 10 years later, 50,000. 10 years later, 100,000. So you said they're doubling every 20 years, right? In Manchester, every 10 years. Now, 100,000, if that becomes 200,000, and 10 years later it becomes 400,000. There's only 500,000 people that live in that city. Now, 50% of the British public don't vote. 50%, do not vote. They're disillusioned, that's us. The working class were fed up. Most people say they're not rich enough or poor enough for it to make a difference. But the Islamic community, and I can only talk from experience of Luton again, yeah? At the time, when I last looked at it, we, 2011, we had 19 mosques at that time. Now, the leader, the mosques have one leader. They come together as the council of mosques.

• 31:05Speaker 03

  That leader sits down with the Labour Party, your Democrat Party. They sit down and they do a deal for the vote. And they do agreements and they give them concessions and they agree things. And then from that one meeting, they get forty thousand votes. Now, when we were challenging, when we had Luton, we were challenging the council, we were challenging everything that's happening. And my leader in my council, her name was Hazel Simmons, she just looked at us when I went to meet, she said, there's not enough for you. Sit back. We don't care. There's not enough for you. And that vote bank becomes so powerful. And the appeasement and the numbers as we talk about how big is the problem. If you look now, you've seen this whole thing blow up recently, first week of January, which was about the rape gang scandal. I've done a five-part series.

• 31:47Speaker 03

  As I said, we formed this organisation in Luton, the English Defence League. We challenged this extremist terrorist group. We followed them. That was our tactics, was to follow them, confront them, highlight them. When I started doing that, I visited towns and cities across the UK. And I had families crying. I mean, like, some of the experiences I've had to meet. One father in Blackpool, they took his daughter. I mean, literally, people's daughters have been taken across the country. And the police, this may sound so insane to an American audience. The police are allowing it, facilitating it, accommodating it. The government know, the police know, religious leaders know, there's a conspiracy of.

• 32:24Patrick Bet-David?

  How is that possible, though? Because when you say that to the average person, they say, okay, what is the incentive? Is it a money play? Is it blackmail? No. Is there a, how do they need to vote? It's not like they're voting. Are they good for the economy? A Pew Research 2021 report says that forty-one percent of Muslims ages sixteen to sixty-four are economically inactive. Compared to twenty-four point seven percent of overall population. Inactive. They don't work, they don't contribute to society, they're out. Fifty-nine percent of so. But there has to be something where one says, that's why they allow them to do whatever they want to do and they can get away with everything. What is the motivation? How are they winning?

• 33:07Speaker 03

  Well, we can only go off what there's, we can only go off what the research says. So when I first come out in two thousand and nine with the English Defence League, I sat on a show called Jeremy Paxman, which was Jeremy Paxman was the most fierce presenter for Newsnight, the biggest political debate show. And I remember when I went on there and everyone was excited who are the English Defence League oppositions because they said he's going to crucify me, he's going to finish me. Because they viewed me as uneducated because of the way I speak and the way I talk and my background. America, I understand the class system that goes on in the UK. The working class are supposed to shut up, basically, yeah? And we're not allowed to have an opinion. And I remember going on there with Jeremy Paxman and I sat there and I tried to explain to him that our daughters are being picked up outside schools by large groups of Pakistani men kidnapped.

• 33:50Speaker 03

  And none of these videos have aged well for them. And he sat there, he said, "You expect us to believe, like many people might be thinking now, you expect us to believe that this is being allowed to happen?" So let's fast forward to 2015. For four years, five years, I've gone around the country. I was on about the father in Blackpool. I can give you hundreds and hundreds of these examples. The father in Blackpool, they take his daughter. When they take his daughter, the father and the son, Muslim father and son, they're both raping her. They ring him. So the father is getting a phone call, it's his daughter being raped. He has to listen to his daughter being raped. He rang me in two, this is 2010 I first met him. I think it was about 2015.

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• 35:29Speaker 03

  I'll get emotional thinking about it. I think it was about 2015, he ran me up, she's back. She's back Tommy, I've got her back. Two gigs later. So this is going on across our whole country, yeah. And when that's going on, we're fear mongering. That's, remember, we come under a mental attack. And Rotherham, you've heard of Rotherham? So Rotherham is the scapegoat city for these gangs. It's where they allowed, allowed the story to come out and it didn't come out to 2014, 15. I was sat in prison and breaking news. What happened is a journalist called Andrew Norfolk. And the reasons he gave was, he had, he had known for years, this is his words, not mine.

• 36:07Speaker 03

  He had known for years that these gangs were a prey in, but he was too scared because they were all Pakistani men and all the victims were young English girls. And he says it was the far right dream. So why are you even thinking about politics or anything, yeah? He, he said it was a far right dream. So he was too scared to report on it, then saw the emergence of the English Defence League. Now, we were very vocal. We've become a household name, not just in the UK but across the globe. Within 12 to 24 months. And what that organisation was, was young, determined, English men who weren't going to back down. And we travelled the country and remember, I know it was never going to be female nurses or doctors that stood up against these gangs on the streets.

• 36:48Speaker 03

  Because when you stand up against them, violence, threats, intimidation, police raids. So the organisation forms. Across the country, there's been a conspiracy of silence in every town or city. So many high ranking people now have dirty hands because, who have hid this crime. We're on the streets, we made it impossible. 5,000 men charging through the streets with signs, our, our daughters are not halal meat. If you listen to the videos, I gave a presentation in Russia. I had to go to Russia because my free speech was taken in the UK. I gave a presentation called The Rape of Britain where I went back and I showed, I showed, English Defence League forms here. If you want to see a graph of the arrests for these Islamic rape gangs, the graph just goes straight like this. English Defence League joins, forms in 2009, 2010, 2011, through the roof.

• 37:34Speaker 03

  They could no longer hide it because the world's media were coming to our demonstrations. Our speeches about they're raping our daughters, they're taking our kids. Then Muslim pedos off our streets was, you've got five, five. Whereas people had been whispering about Islam, it's too scared to talk about it. Overnight, you had 5,000, 10,000 men screaming about it. And it was a catalyst across the country. And I then realised, what I've seen in Luton, Luton's just a blueprint for every town in the city. And I realised, geez, this is coordinated, it's happening across the whole country. I'm sitting down with families and they're crying their eyes out, his daughter's been missing for three, four days. And they're going to the police and not getting any help. And all this was unbelievable. And fast forward to 2014, 2015, this big study come in the city of Rotherham.

• 38:17Speaker 03

  Rotherham has a 3.7% Muslim population. 1,400 children, they found that had been raped, there'd been murders. But in that city, the investigation found, the police knew what was happening. They were too scared to tackle it through fear of being branded racist. So say that out loud, this is where you need to understand as, as the United States of America. That the Democrats, because remember, many of these Islamic immigration will end up in Democrat cities. They will then become that power put forward as a vote bank. And that's what happened in many cities across the UK. That the political party care more about the votes and power than they do about, they'll sacrifice the kids. And that sounds insane, but when you look at the numbers, so Rotherham, 3.7% Muslim population.

• 39:00Speaker 03

  1,400 children had been raped in that town. When that come out and the study come out, some of the examples, Patrick, that, some of the examples, two dads get together. Their 13 year old daughters are in a house, 10 Pakistani Muslim men raping them. The dads turn up at the house to get the kids back. Remember, this is not me, read, read the report. This is not me saying it. The two dads go to get their daughters back, the police turn up and arrest the dads. They leave the girls in there. Another example, an 11 year old girl's in a derelict house, an abandoned house. Five Muslim men are sexually assaulting and raping her. The police turn up, they arrest the little girl for being drunk and disorderly.

• 39:33Patrick Bet-David?

  It's like that one.

• 39:33Speaker 03

  They literally allowed this to happen.

• 39:35Patrick Bet-David?

  How though?

• 39:36Speaker 03

  How, but they.

• 39:37Patrick Bet-David?

  How are they so scared when things like, when you start doing this to kids? Who is not at the top? A prime minister, the royal family, the most powerful people? Who is not sitting there saying, "We can't tolerate this"?

• 39:54Speaker 03

  No, not just can't tolerate it, they celebrated everyone who covered it up. Not just, and that goes to the rule. So, when all this blew up, 2015, people are realising, "Oh my god, everything we were saying was right." So remember, we were attacked.

• 40:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you do me a favor? Can you play the clip of Tommy with Jeremy Paxman? Is this you? This is the woman in the clip? Play this clip. And this is how long ago? Fifteen years ago?

• 40:17Speaker 03

  Fifteen years ago?

• 40:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Fifteen years ago, go for it.

• 40:19Speaker 03

  He said, "Do you understand that people are frightened by that kind of thing? And they're frightened by the possibility of this demonstration." "We're frightened, what we're saying, we're frightened by Sharia law. The leader of the local council mosque, the leader of the local council..." "She's worried by what you've set off." "The leader of the local council mosque, who is in charge of nine mosques in our town, called for Sharia law for the Islamic community in our town. That frightens me. That frightens me." "And you're not frightened by what the prospect of a lot of young men swaggering around the town, chanting about doing..."

• 40:50Patrick Bet-David?

  "Chanting..."

• 40:50Speaker 03

  "and the rest of it." "Genuine causes, we've got genuine grievances." "Us is a righteous cause." "We..."

• 40:55Patrick Bet-David?

  "All right."

• 40:56Speaker 03

  "It is, so..." "We are, but I am worried."

• 40:59Patrick Bet-David?

  "Right."

• 40:59Speaker 03

  "I am worried, and many people across towns..."

• 41:01Patrick Bet-David?

  "Right, a lot of people are worried, I believe you." "Right, most of the newspapers tomorrow morning go with the news from..."

• 41:08Speaker 03

  "Not surprisingly." "In this interview where we just talk about the rape gangs, and he looks at me like I'm an idiot."

• 41:14Patrick Bet-David?

  "Who's he known in your country? How big is he at the time? He was the biggest?

• 41:18Speaker 03

  He was the biggest."

• 41:19Patrick Bet-David?

  "So he was like the Anderson Cooper of CNN at that time?"

• 41:21Speaker 03

  "And do you know what I said to him? I said to him in there, I said, "Jeremy, let me ask you. Do you know anyone who's been raped by a Pakistani Muslim gang? Do you know anyone who's been murdered by a Pakistani Muslim gang? Do you know any girls who have been taken and now converted and not allowed to speak to their family at the hands of a Muslim gang? Do you know anyone who are hooked on heroin and sold to them by a Muslim gang?" I said, "You don't know anyone, do you? We do." "So who, when these girls are getting raped, whose daughters do you think they are? They're ours in towns like Luton." "I said, "So I don't expect you to understand, but I do expect you to listen. I do expect you to listen, because that's what's happening in every town and city." "And you see, if they would have listened then..." I also gave a presentation at Oxford University. And when I was doing this, remember I was just getting deemed as racist, extremist, far right. That was all the accusations.

• 42:05Patrick Bet-David?

  You're twenty six years old here.

• 42:07Speaker 03

  Yeah, I was young. I was young and I was in the deep end, to be honest. And remember, I was never political. I didn't care about politics. And the problem is, most working class don't, okay? We just, most people don't care about politics. We're not political. The Islamic ideology is very political. We're not involved in politics. But I didn't care about it, but then, once I saw what was happening and I realised it across the country, we started giving a voice to it. And you know, when I started this in two thousand nine, this is Yorkshire Police. So the main area for these gangs was in Yorkshire. I go to the airport, I'm at Luton Airport, I get arrested by Special Branch, okay? As they arrest me, they arrest me, they say for criminal damage.

• 42:49Speaker 03

  So I get taken to a police station. As I'm in the police station, they say, we're now raiding properties linked to you. I said, what? They went into my mum's with machine guns, they went into my daughter, where my babies were, my wife, with machine guns. They ransacked the houses. And then they, when it comes to baiting me, what I find out is, you see, you know on a hotel room door, there's a little bit of metal that connects the door?

• 43:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Mm-hmm.

• 43:10Speaker 03

  They arrested me for thirty pounds, forty dollars, criminal damage on a door that they said I stayed in, in Sheffield, actually, yeah? And I did stay in that hotel, and they know I stayed in that hotel because after we'd done a demonstration in Blackpool, we'd been in Blackpool and there was a young girl who had been kidnapped and they chopped her up in kebab meat. You know, Google this case, Google Charlene Downs. She was kidnapped, they put, the police put listening devices in the Muslim, the police put listening devices in the Muslim takeaway. When the mother went to ask where her daughter was, because she always hung around this Muslim takeaway, they gave her a free kebab, yeah? What we then find out, what we then find out from the listening, yeah, that's right. I've met her mum. What we then find out from the listening devices

• 43:53Speaker 03

  is the Muslims are saying her bones went in as well. They're talking about it on the recording devices. But it was illegal. The way the police done it, it was illegal. So the Muslims get off. They just changed the name of their takeaway, they're still running the same takeaway. She's dead. But these sort of things weren't making national news. These sort of things have gone on across the whole country. But it had been silence, everyone was so scared. So fast forward, the report come out, when the report come out in Rotherham. And again, you're asking the important questions. Why? Why did no one do anything? Can I ask these questions? But for asking these questions, that's why they want to shut you down. So why did no one do anything? And it wasn't just Rotherham. Then we had reports come out of Telford. We then had reports come out of Manchester.

• 44:36Speaker 03

  So then, before you know it, there's 55 cities where there's been convictions of these men. And so people understand the scale of the problem. Pakistani men make up about 2 or 3% of the UK population. They're responsible for 90% of the convictions of these rape gangs. Pakistani, yeah. Pakistani men, Muslim men, Muslim men. 90% of the convictions. 30% of the men convicted in these crimes' names are Mohammed. Why? How come it's not the Sikhs? The Jews aren't doing it? The Hindus aren't doing it? No one else is doing it. In fact, not only are they not doing it, but they're also victims of these gangs. Now, I don't want for one minute anyone to think I'm saying every Muslim is involved in this. I grew up in Luton Town. Some of the best people I met growing up are Muslim lads, yeah?

• 45:19Speaker 03

  That doesn't deter from this massive problem we've got. Why do they think this way? Why is it facilitated? Why is it being hidden within the community? And why will no one tackle it? But when I started first talking in 2009, this is to understand that, remember, police forces have allowed it to happen. So if you're the head of the police in Rotherham, who's now in charge of counter-terrorism. The head officer who was in charge of Rotherham at the time of this rape gang scandal, who knew it was happening, yeah? Yorkshire Police, I'm in Luton, that's a three or four hour drive. Who arrested me at the airport when I'm arrested by Special Branch for this hotel? 30 officers from Yorkshire come down. When they bailed me, they gave me conditions, which I'm still getting now. My bail conditions, remember, it's silent, no one knows what's going on. Then comes this group coming out of Luton Town.

• 46:04Speaker 03

  Here come these working class men on the streets of every town and city. Who's organising it? Tommy Robinson. Where's their next city? We chose Bradford, which was where all these gangs are. And we're coming to highlight the grooming issue. So I get arrested by Special Branch. I then get released on bail. I'm not allowed to send emails. They ban me from sending emails, I'll go straight to jail. I'm not allowed to be in a group of two or more English Defence League supporters, and my bail date that I have to answer bail is the same date that our demonstration's on. I then put in a complaint through the IPCC, the Independent Police Complaints Commission. And I've got all the paperwork for this. I put the complaint in saying, I believe you arrested me on this date on a fabricated charge. We find out in the investigation, it was fabricated.

• 46:47Speaker 03

  The manager of a hotel said, I've never done anything. So they fabricated a charge in order to come down in a big police raid. And most of this is about pressure as well to dawn raid my house. When I first started this activism, my mum was crying, my wife was crying, my whole family were crying. They're all telling me, stop Stephen, stop, stop, stop. And in those first three, six months, I had three dawn raids like this, where I was coming in my house. So they were still trying to put it back in and hide it. Then we carried on for two years, we carried on, carried on highlighting these issues. In 2015, when the Rotherham scandal broke, people realised he was telling the truth. So that's why all these interviews I've done, they're like, well, he was right.

• 47:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Who's with you now that wasn't with you? Who was the biggest proponent of you now that back in the days wasn't? Because I just recently saw Nigel Farage is no longer supportive like he used to be. He distanced himself from you. And I think if I'm not mistaken, Elon said something about Nigel Farage. He wasn't too complimentary of him about like three, four months ago. But who is for you now? Who's starting to say, you know, Tommy's got a point?

• 47:54Speaker 03

  So Nigel Farage has never been for me. Nigel Farage has always played the political line and worried about trying to distance himself from me. What they don't realise is, so in 2015, that's when I started my journalism. So in those early days, it was about being out on the street, getting 5,000, 10,000 people, telling people, here's what's going on. And then I realised this, yeah? So I realised, well, I need everyone to see what I've seen. I need people to know what I know. I need them to understand how Islam operates, how they think. I need them to understand the scale of this rape scandal across our country. So then I become a journalist, I started making videos. And within six months, I was the most watched journalist in Europe. I blew up, absolutely blew up. I started working for an organisation called Rebel Media in Canada. They offered me a job.

• 48:39Speaker 03

  I went to jail, come out of jail, when all this scandal has been highlighted. Red Bull contacted me and said, look, we want you to make some videos. I said, look, I'm just, I'm trying to make money again. I'm trying to get my life back on, on track. I've, um, I've faced the full weight of the British establishment. Do you know when I, when I first started this? I knew I'd face threats of terrorism. I knew I'd face violent beatings. I've had, there's five Muslims in jail doing thirty years. They got caught with guns and bombs and IEDs on the way to kill me. I've had twelve government official Osmond warnings telling me there's plans to murder me, not just me. My ex-wife got knock on the door, there's plans to attack you with acid. My mum and dad even recently is seven, eight, eight months ago, I had to fly them to another country because the police knocked on their door.

• 49:22Speaker 03

  There's plans to attack you. I knew that would come when you try and discuss Islam. What I didn't expect was the full weight of the British establishment to crush me, attack me and.

• 49:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Who's for you? Who is for you? Who's the loudest voice that's now for you?

• 49:36Speaker 03

  Elon Musk spoke up on my behalf, many in America. It's been very. I was sitting in jail recently and my son was playing me recordings over the, over the phone. Charlie Kirk, Steve Bannon. Um, Elon Musk spoke up, the Petersons made a personal video, Tammy Peterson travelled to my, the prison to try and visit me. There's been a massive shift, but that shift has, I've, I've slowly watched it and I, I gave speeches in two thousand and fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, eighteen. And when I was giving speeches, I said, when it swings from left to right, no one's going to stop it. You're not going to be able to stop it because it has to happen, that this has to happen. And the, the only way it can happen is when the population are educated and understand what's happening. So.

• 50:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, but all those names you said are not in UK. Who in UK is a big supporter that's now saying, we gotta get to the bottom of this? With influence.

• 50:24Speaker 03

  Not with me. So many of the politicians now, the same politicians, whether it be Nigel Farage or the same politicians. Even Kemi Baden-Locke or now the Conservative Party, all of them are now talking about this grooming issue. But none of them, they still all condemn me and attack me. They still all, any of the people, do you know what's happened is? We've shifted the open window and made it acceptable to talk about, but many of them still say, attack me to then feel free to discuss it. They still use me as a scapegoat. And in these figures, and this is the biggest thing for America. I, I was outside the courts. Once I started doing my journalism and reporting. I was outside the court in Leeds and there was thirty men on trial. And what happened in these early cases?

• 51:06Speaker 03

  So, once they had to start attacking, addressing these gangs, they started making arrests. And when they started making arrests, it would go to court. And you might have ten men on trial. Say, for example, there was a case in Oxford. Now, one of the girls in Oxford, they took her tongue and they nailed her tongue to a table. This was a child. This is what the rape gangs done. Another girl in this area. This is documented. It is all documented, all documented. And this is why, this is why I'll get onto the reason, yeah? Another girl, they got a hot iron rod and it had the letter M. And they heated it up and they took this eleven year old girl and they stuck it on her bum. And they scolded her like you scold an animal. And they scolded her with the letter M because she was the property of Mohammed. They took children out and doused them in petrol in the, this is why, they took them out and doused them in petrol in the woods and said, we'll set you on fire.

• 51:51Speaker 03

  So then these children, they used them and they threatened their families. But this is all going on. So when the first cases started coming to light and they're going through the courts, this is getting reported. And what the men are saying to the girls, you dirty kafar, you gurrah, which is white girl, you filthy gurrah slag. Everything the men were saying and the reason why they're doing it was coming out in the media. So we're getting to know. What the authorities then did is they put a blanket reporting restriction. So the first few cases, people started hearing what was going on. Then now, any of these scandals, they have a reporting restriction. So when they put a reporting restriction, for example, there was a case in Leeds, thirty of them. It was Huddersfield, one of the biggest rape gang scandals in our country's history.

• 52:31Speaker 03

  Thirty Pakistani Muslim men, they'd been raping a hundred girls, torturing them, raping them for years. And now the authorities are having to deal with them. So they take them to court. So I go outside the court and I'm reporting. And they put a reporting restrictions. So this is what they do now, yeah? And those reporting restrictions prevent anyone reporting on anything that's happening. And then what happens is you have a six week trial. And rather than hearing the news for six weeks about the trial. At the end of the sixth week, you get one day reporting. Because then they lift the reporting restriction, you get thirty men convicted, but you don't hear all the details. You have one day's news rather than six days' news. So I stood outside the court and I said, these cases are going on up and down the country. Across our country, you don't know about it, but they're happening across the country. They're being arrested, they're being tried.

• 53:17Speaker 03

  And under reporting restriction legislation, the judge has no power to put restrictions on information that's already in the public domain. So I made sure not to breach the reporting restriction. I said, I named the men, I named how many victims, because this is information, I knew a hell of a lot more. These men have been on bail for two years, running the same shops, still in contact with kids. I knew so much about them, but I didn't say it. I'm outside court, the men are coming in, as they're walking in, I said, how are you feeling about your verdict? They're all making threats to me, I was very calm. The judge is at the top window, his name was Judge Marston. Two minutes later, this is on a live stream. I'm reporting, two minutes later, I'm arrested. You're under arrest for a breach of the peace. So what do you mean breach of the peace? What have I done? They arrest me, they handcuff me, they take me to the police station.

• 54:02Speaker 03

  They don't even book me in the police station, they say, right, take him to court. I'm taken to court before a judge, Judge Marston. I'm not asked to plead guilty, I'm not guilty. I get to court, I say, I want, I get to court, this is the footage. I get to court, I say, I want to speak to my solicitor, I have to plead to my solicitor. They don't allow me to speak to my solicitor. They put me before the judge, within two hours, I got sentenced to thirteen months in prison. And what the judge then did is put a reporting restriction on anyone being told I got sentenced to thirty months in prison. So I then land, two hours later, I'm in HMP Hall. I ring my mother and my kids. I say, I'm in jail, I've just got thirty months in jail. And she's like, what? I said, I'm in prison, I've just been sentenced to thirty months in prison. I haven't done anything wrong, but they put a reporting restriction.

• 54:45Speaker 03

  But thanks to America, Australia, Canada, because you're not governed by their restrictions. So no one in UK was allowed to talk about it. But then, over that weekend, it started blowing up everywhere, which started a Free Tommy movement. I'm then transferred and taken, this is all to do with them still hiding this same problem. So I'm then taken and I'm put in solitary confinement in a Muslim-majority prison. And it took two and a half months before we got to a court of appeal. We get to a court of appeal and they find that everything they done was unlawful. I'm then released from prison. And during this, this period, and as you'll see in the back of that, I was happy, not happy. As I'm getting put in the back of that van, I say, Germany, millions are now going to watch this film.

• 55:28Speaker 03

  And I gave an education, that, that, that video there, the entirety of that video was me talking to parents to say, this is how they do it. If, if you, this is what's happening to your daughters, this is a telltale signs. What I make a point of is that I've grew up with some Muslim lads in Luton who would be appalled by what these men are doing. But I understand that these men are operating in every town and city, it's being, it's still being hidden. I then got sent to jail for that, I got 13 months, two and a half months later, I went to appeal, I was released. I come out of that, I went into prison one person and come out another, just from two and a half months of storage confinement, it damaged me. But this is all to do with the rape gang scandal. And the biggest problem, say in Rotherham, I then, I then said, the purpose of them sending me to jail was to prevent the public being aware of this.

• 56:13Speaker 03

  So when I come out of prison, I said, I'm now going to work tirelessly to make this, to make the world know what's going on. And I then started working on a five part series called The Rape of Britain. And I spent 12 to 18 months in a small town called Telford. Telford in the UK has a one, and I picked Telford because Telford has a 1.7% Muslim population. And trust me, if you've got Muslim communities in, in America, this is already happening. It's already happening. This is happening everywhere where there's an Islamic community. So in, in, in Holland, for example, it's Moroccans, in, in France, it's happening, it's Lebanese, it's happening across. In the UK, it's majority Pakistani, but when you look at the demographics of all of the men, they're Afghani, they're Iraqi, they're,

• 56:55Speaker 03

  all of them are from definitely Islamic countries, the majority are Pakistani because the majority of the UK Muslims are Pakistani. So I go into Telford, 1.7% Muslim population, spent 12 to 18 months and I meet so many girls. I had a focus of 12 women and I'd sit them down for three hours, four hours and I'd interview them. And then I've built, built a database, we've done a full, full, full scale police style investigation in this town. And the reason I picked this town is because I thought there's not that many Muslims there. I'll be able to find out everything about every one of them and I can work out who's who, who the families are, how they operate. So we end up building a wall of men. Now, from my investigation, I got, I got 264 names from these women. Then the police do an investigation in Telford.

• 57:41Speaker 03

  The police investigation identified 200 men. Out of those 200 men, the police prosecuted 11. Right, they let the rest off. So when you see rape ground scandal, when you pick any city and read the headlines, yeah? When you see rape ground scandal and you read the headlines, it's just a token gesture. They literally, they can't afford to put more in jail. They wouldn't have the prison spaces to put more in jail. So Telford, in Telford, five are dead. Five, a whole family were burned alive. Yeah, five of these victims just in Telford. Now, the police investigation identifies 200 men and 1,000 children that have been raped. So in Telford with a 1.7%.

• 58:14Patrick Bet-David?

  1,000 children have been raped?

• 58:16Speaker 03

  By 1.7% Muslim population. When you look at the 1.7% Muslim population, roughly three and a half, 4,000 Muslims. You take away the women, you then take away the under 16s. You're looking at the police figures of 200 is 20%. Our figures, 264 we had named. Then there was an independent inquiry which got 300, 350. So you're looking at 20 to 30% of the Muslim men in that town are raping young girls. Now, this is where you get into understanding why the Labour Party have not dealt with this. Yeah, this sounds, and you can watch my five part series. Now, we find police officers involved, Crown Prosecution Service, politicians. The whole community are involved. And in that town, so if you've got 20 or 30% of the men that are raping these girls.

• 59:00Speaker 03

  Some of them are being tortured, some of them are being murdered. Just in this small town of Telford. What do you think is happening in my town when there's 50% Muslim population? What does any of my, but you will never get the figures for these towns. And this is where, and I'll get on to, this is why it's all blown up so big in January, which was when Elon Musk jumped on board in Hoyley in this. Because in Telford, there was an inquiry, not an inquiry with statutory power. So an inquiry with statutory power would allow people to be summoned to court on oath. Police, council, and they'd have to tell the truth. But the inquiry that was given didn't have that power. So it wasn't a government inquiry, they gave a solicitor led inquiry.

• 59:42Speaker 03

  So the solicitor led inquiry without any power identified 1,000 victims, 200 men and told an incredible story. Now, what's happened now recently is in the city of Oldham, which is a 35% Muslim population. Which has some of the most horrific rapes and torture of children. They've been crying out for an inquiry to what's happening to the children. As they're crying out, six times the Labour Council, because when the Muslim community get that big in the town, you ain't getting an inquiry, because Labour just shut it down every time. So when they're going to try and get a vote within the council to have an inquiry into these rape gangs, it's voted down every time. So then, last year, independents stood in council to say, we'll call for an inquiry.

• 1:00:25Speaker 03

  So then the independents get voted in, because the non-Muslim community in the town want to want to tell the story of what's happened to their daughters. So you can see some of the videos, my next documentary is looking at this, I'm going to show the whole world what's going on, yeah? With the Labour Party, because there's been a massive cover up. So then, they vote in, they then appeal to the government for a statutory power inquiry. It goes to the Labour government, Jess Phillips shuts it down. So they've voted people in to try and get the inquiry, then they go to the government, Labour, Labour then shut it down, there's no inquiry. And then Labour are saying you can, we'll do these little five inquiries without statutory power. So it's just a complete shut.

• 1:01:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Who's above Labour to tell Labour, hey, go investigate this? Who holds them accountable?

• 1:01:09Speaker 03

  Well, you need to, you need to look, which my next documentary is looking at. And this is, so say in the town of Rochdale. Rochdale is a massive rape gang scandal, they're in every town, yeah? The local Labour councillor, Hussain was his name. Now, 10 years ago, this is all now topic of conversation. 10 years ago, when a young girl was raped, 100 girls were raped, yeah, over 100. So this young girl in this community, her local Labour representative, which is your Democrats, her local Democrat politician, her local representative, didn't go court to support her. He went to court and gave a character reference for the Muslim rapist. As did the mayor of Bolton. They went to court and testified in court, on oath and testified,

• 1:01:52Speaker 03

  that this Muslim man who's raped 100 kids is a wonderful man, he's a great man, yeah? So they went to court and gave a character reference. What happened to him? He didn't lose his job. He didn't lose his job. I went up to question him as a journalist. I knocked at the door and said, I'm here to ask Councilor Hussain some questions. They said, come back in two hours. So I drive back in two hours, gangs come from everywhere, smash my car up, blitz me. Because the, the, what's unthinkable is that the political power is working with the violent gangs. They're together.

• 1:02:22Patrick Bet-David?

  What's the benefit though? What are they getting?

• 1:02:24Speaker 03

  What are they getting?

• 1:02:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Because back in the days, if, if you, if you look at the Italian mob, right? What they did, they had them bought. So they paid them off and it was a model, hey, we have this many cops, this many judges, this many this, this many that. This doesn't seem like that's, that's that because they're not making that kind of money.

• 1:02:40Speaker 03

  And this is a mafia as well. The Islamic community is a mafia, total mafia.

• 1:02:43Patrick Bet-David?

  So do, have, do they, have they, do they have the judges and the cops and all those guys bought? Well, because they're paying them off?

• 1:02:49Speaker 03

  Episode one of The Raper Brian that we produced, we tracked down, we get witnesses and testimonies. So one girl, this girl's been raped and this girl's Nicole, very brave young girl. She's been raped at the age of 13. She gets pregnant, they get DNA from the fetus of the baby, yeah? They get the DNA, so we have, we have all the paperwork, 100% DNA match on the Pakistani rapist who drives a Lamborghini who's aged 23 or 24, yeah? So they get the DNA match, no further action. There was no, the police, no further action, okay? Now, this girl's dad, at the time, worked in the restaurant of one of the, of the gangs, because they're all coordinated, yeah? He used to work there.

• 1:03:29Speaker 03

  Now, we had two different witnesses who witnessed the chief inspector, the police officer in the restaurant with the gangs. It's the head police officer with, because it works as a mafia, they're making so much money. And they control, the drugs, the violence in every town, city is controlled by the Muslim community in the UK now. They are the mafia, they control everything. And whoever controls the drugs, controls the towns, controls the streets. Whoever controls the streets, controls the towns.

• 1:03:55Patrick Bet-David?

  What kind of money are they making?

• 1:03:57Speaker 03

  Insane money.

• 1:03:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Give me, give me an example.

• 1:03:59Speaker 03

  Millions.

• 1:04:00Patrick Bet-David?

  It's not a lot though, like are they, because to own judges, to own.

• 1:04:04Speaker 03

  I won't say they own judges, to own police officers, yeah? So they own police officers, which we show, so I.

• 1:04:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Police officers, you, to, to be able, so, so for me, to be able to get away with this. You you have to either bribe where you have intel on them, which they don't. That's not their business model. You have to buy local, small judges and, you know, cops and senators and congress and buy them out, which they're not making that kind of money to be able to do that. You have to be feared because it could come to you. But fearing them to do what to you?

• 1:04:38Speaker 03

  They don't have to pay.

• 1:04:38Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm trying to really find out like, why?

• 1:04:41Speaker 03

  Political power, they don't need, they don't have to pay.

• 1:04:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, okay, so maybe let me ask a different question. So in Elon Musk said something about Starmer, right? He tweeted something about him. I I pulled up right now, prime ministers in UK from two thousand and five to twenty twenty five. Tony Blair, you got Gordon Brown, Labour Party, Labour, Labour. Cameron, Conservative, Theresa May, Conservative, Boris Johnson, Conservative, Liz Truss, Conservative, Rishi Sunak, Conservative, and Akir Starmer, Conservative, Labour. You mean David, Theresa, Boris, Liz, and Rishi? While this is going on, they knew about it and they didn't do anything about it?

• 1:05:15Speaker 03

  All of them knew about it. Well, so remember, they were they were responsible for open border mass immigration. The the reason being, open border mass immigration, the problems I'm talking about are the problems that come from that. Now, if you were allowed to really look at it, then whose failure is it? Why are these girls getting raped? It comes down to their political failure. Their their decisions to allow mass immigration into our towns and cities. So that's why they must cover it up. Because if it if it if it's not covered up, all these problems that I talk about, all the problems I've seen, all these rapes, all the gangs, all the terrorism, all the jihad, all of that, they've imported. And and that is their failure. So if you're allowed to look at it and investigate it and question it, then you're going to start looking at them. And then the public are going to look at them and say, you did this. You did this, and every one of them have risen to the top with dirty hands.

• 1:05:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, fair. So royal family, who has more power, prime minister or the royal family? You think the royal family is going to allow like from? We're Americans, right? So we're on a completely different place here. But when we think about your politics, can't the royal family sit there and say, what are we doing? The rich history that we have, are we going to sit here and be okay with this happening to us?

• 1:06:17Speaker 03

  Okay, so look at a case in Manchester. Case in Manchester, young girl, what's her name, Victoria? Young girl, fifteen, drugged with heroin by a fifty-five-year-old Muslim man, raped. When she was killed, that launched a police investigation. They made, I think, a hundred arrests. Um, when they made these arrests, there was the police officer in charge. I'm speaking from memory here, but I've done, I've done this before. So the police officer in charge, they make a hundred arrests, they arrest them, they give them their court date, their pending court cases, and then the Crown Prosecution Service claps. Gone. Everything's gone. Remember, this is when they're still covering up, yeah? So the police were forced into doing investigation because a young girl died.

• 1:07:00Speaker 03

  Then they uncover all of these rape gangs and they start looking at them. Victoria, so it was Victoria. Rape arrests as part of New Grooming. Oh, so now they're making arrests in two thousand twenty, yeah? But she wasn't killed in two thousand twenty. Get out when she was killed. Now, when she was killed, two thousand three. So remember, this is when we're still in big cover-up mode, yeah? So they make loads of arrests in this case. They then, they, they find the gang. They, they find that all the ones, hundreds of them are operating, just raping young kids, torturing them. They make arrests, they get them all ready for court, they collapse the entire trial. The lead police officer who collapsed that trial won the big, the highest recommendation six months later from our royal family. The, the level of cover-up.

• 1:07:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Six months later from royal family?

• 1:07:42Speaker 03

  From the royal family, he won the biggest award you can get, like, for, for, for his work, yeah? He won the reward for covering this up. Because what you have to understand is, they were so fearful of this coming out. And they always say they were fearful of race riots, fearful of race tensions, because you can't allow the public to realise that literally, members of the Islamic community are raping their way through our nation. And that is all to do with open border mass immigration. Say like the Democrats now, they're opening up. Many problems in American cities are going to come from the problems that have come from the men who they've imported and allowed in. So what do they want to do? They just hide it. And this was a mass cover-up for, up until the formation of the English Defence League. They had successfully hid this for thirty to forty years.

• 1:08:23Speaker 03

  So you can imagine the level of animosity and, and frustration they have with me. So that's why, and, and every arrest in the first six months was, was done to intimidate, scare and silence. It didn't work. We're now fast forward, I'm arrested again on rape gangs, I've just been put in prison again, I've just come out. Uh, uh, we're ten days in. I was released from prison ten days ago, I spent the last seven months on solitary confinement. For showing the public the truth. And what was that truth about? That truth, I have to be careful what I say here because I'll go straight back to jail. I'm currently under another gagging order. Where I was only, at least I would have spent the rest of my life in prison for this film. I made a film. I made a film. I'm a journalist. I made a film and they sentenced me to eighteen months in prison for that film.

• 1:09:07Speaker 03

  Now, what did that film expose? That film exposed the problems from a refugee that was imported in. If people were allowed to understand the truth of what had happened in that area, they'd be looking at the government because the public didn't want Syrian refugees brought into Great Britain. But the government, during the height of the ISIS chaos that was going on in Syria, bought in twenty thou- the Conservative government bought in twenty thousand. And this, the problems I spoke about in this film were to do with, um, one refugee. What about the rest? And they'd hid it. They hid this entire story. After we ca- I would go into detail on this, I'm simply not allowed to. I will go straight back to jail and face two years if I sit and give you any details about what went on. I made a film that became the most watched film in British history, hundred and sixty-seven million views.

• 1:09:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Silenced?

• 1:09:51Speaker 03

  Silenced. I made that film-

• 1:09:52Patrick Bet-David?

  This was the Syria case where the kid, uh, watched the video, had a broken hand. The other guy comes and hits him and you claim-

• 1:10:00Speaker 03

  I have to be careful here. I wouldn't make that. Even me having that discussion where you make the claim now, they'll probably bang me straight up in jail.

• 1:10:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Why? Why though?

• 1:10:09Speaker 03

  I'm under an order.

• 1:10:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Uh, we- we-

• 1:10:12Speaker 03

  For me, for me, so I made a film. They take me to court. To be, I make a film. Remember that court lawfare, lawfare is used and it's been used against me for fifteen years. It's not just used against me. It's used against anyone who whistleblowers or speaks out. For example, you know what you saw with Russiagate? You saw the situation with Russiagate? Now, many in the UK still won't understand what happened with Russi- Russiagate. Russiagate, where the FBI created, the FBI feeds sources of information to the national media. The national media run those stories, which are bullshit. They run those stories, then when they wanted to get, um, a warrant off of a judge- In order to put surveillance on the opposition, which was Donald Trump, they produce their evidence.

• 1:10:57Speaker 03

  And they also say, look, there's these national media stories. Well, those national media stories come from the FBI, giving them the information. Now, in that case there with Russiagate, they used Christopher Steele, an MI6 agent from the UK, who made this up. Yes, they use a legitimate source as an MI6 agent. That same MI6 agent is the one they still use against me. So the media create the stories of news to attack people. It's like the weapon, we live in a totalitarian state in Great Britain. I don't think you, any Americans, really understand, well, I hope you do understand, that you are the only place left in the world that has free speech. You are the only place. But the American establishment now, under Donald Trump, they know lawfare because they saw it with Russiagate.

• 1:11:41Speaker 03

  They know how coordinated the FBI worked with the media. They all combined together in order to attack. That's happened to me. Now, Donald Trump is a billionaire and he had a massive, he had a massive platform to highlight this. I've been fighting this as a working class kid from Luton Town. And I've managed to build my own platform. And even through the censorship, remember, they censored me to a level where if you mention my name on Facebook, they delete your account. I was up there with mass terrorists and killers, my name. I've never been convicted or tried for anything to do with hate crime. I've never even had an arrest for anything to do with it. Nothing I say is hateful, it's facts. Unfortunately for them, the facts spell out the problems that they've imported into our country.

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• 1:13:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me ask you, in regard to that case with silence, the article says that you ended up having to pay $100,000 and $500,000 of legal fees.

• 1:13:28Speaker 03

  More than that, they bankrupt me for 1.5 million pounds. Now, so what they did is, a story blows up in the national news, a manufactured story, a prove it's manufactured, right? They twisted the whole story. Now, the problem is, how many stories like this are they feeding us? This story was on CNN. This story was on ABC. This story was on China News. This story was worldwide. And the story the public was fed was just lies. It was just manufactured lies. And the media blew it up. Why did they blow it up? Because it suited the open border, globalist narrative of mass immigration, that the Syrian was the Syrian, that the refugee is the victim, and the English are racist bullies. So they blow this story up. I make a video countering it, saying, "This isn't true."

• 1:14:12Speaker 03

  They then attack me using lawfare. They put me through the courts. They tell me to apologize. I say, "I'm not apologizing because I'm truthful." Because this is what I'm saying. What I'm saying and given witness testimonies of. I'm not going to apologize. They then bankrupt me. But when they bankrupt me, I then went and wore a hidden camera. And I got the school teachers. This was about an incident in school. I got so many people on camera, they were paid not to tell the truth. So I produced all that. Yeah, you saw it.

• 1:14:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:14:40Speaker 03

  Do you know anything you saw in that film?

• 1:14:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:14:42Speaker 03

  Not one single British journalist has reported it. Most watched British documentary in history. Not one single journalist has made any report of it. Now, for the establishments, the people understand when you Google my name. If you Google my name and you look at my criminal record history, if you hadn't seen that film, Patrick, you would just read that I lied. You'd read that I lied, because all the mainstream narrative just says that I lied and made things up. But unfortunately for them, when I made that film, I knew what that film showed. That film was a far bigger story than Tommy Robinson. It's much bigger than me. Lawfare has been used against Donald Trump, against Steve Bannon, against Alex Jones, a billion pound, against Marie Le Pen now, can't stand in election, what happened in Romania, what's happened to Geert Wilders, what's happened to Morten Messerschmitt,

• 1:15:25Speaker 03

  any political leaders, any populist people who have stood up and made any challenges or highlighted any of the globalist narrative have come under attack with lawfare. So my film showed that, and I knew when I released it, I knew it would be prison. And prison for me could be death, because our entire prison system is controlled by Islamic jihadist gangs. I mean, the public, if they-

• 1:15:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Yours.

• 1:15:49Speaker 03

  Now, yours will be soon as well. America needs to wake the hell up. They will be converting right now in every American prison. The people in control of the conversions, they will infiltrate every institution in your state, and they will turn the people against you. The first they went for in the British prison system is the black community. And they are converting blacks like that. And the same in your American system. In your prison system, they are recruiting, and I guarantee you, if you don't get a grip of it now, you'll be sitting in 10 years' time, scratching your heads, as you think you've got problems with different gangs in jail, every one of your prisons will be controlled by Islamic gangs. Like, the whole of the UK prison system, every prison is controlled by Islam. Every one. There's no defence against it. And why is there no defence? Because the prison authorities know it's happening, the government knows it's happening, but everyone's hands tied

• 1:16:33Speaker 03

  around their back through political correctness. You have to understand the power of that political correctness. It was that powerful that every police force, every politician, they all just went into silence. They know children are being raped across the country, but none of them would speak about it. And anyone who did speak about it, lost their jobs, went to prison, got silenced, got attacked. Everyone, because the- remember how many of them have got dirty hands? So if you look now, Keir Starmer was in charge of the Crown Prosecution Service. Keir Starmer was in charge of the Crown Prosecution Service when they decided not to prosecute not just the Islamic rape gangs, Jimmy Savile, it is a cover-up going across the board.

• 1:17:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Whether you agree with Tommy or not, guess what? You can now get a hold of him on Manect. He will respond back on Manect. You can simply download the app. He's officially on there. Ask him any question. You agree with him, you don't agree with him. An article, something you saw, but now you can get direct contact with Tommy Robinson on Manect.

• 1:17:29Speaker 03

  And they all have dirty hands. So of course, they can't, they don't, can't allow. When I look, which I'm gonna do in my next film, which is why they probably hate me. Do you know, when you're in prison, they're not allowed to hold you in solitary confinement, yeah? I believe they've tried to destroy me each time I've gone to jail. So this most recent time, I went in as a civil offender because I made, as a, as a journalist, I made a film. And they gave me, they gave me a, an injunction. Remember, these non-disclosure agreements you saw in the film, injunctions think like this, they're being used across the board in the West to shut everyone up, whether it be in hospitals, where just they pay people to be silent. So you're not really getting the truth. And the mainstream media are, are never giving us the truth. And I, and I can give you more examples of stories like that.

• 1:18:14Speaker 03

  But they're silencing everyone. So when I had that film, I thought, right. I, I didn't want to release it because I didn't want to go jail, but I did want to release it. So I made the decision, I sat my family down, said, I have to do this, like, I have to let the public know. And I thought, if they come for me, when, when that film leaked, it had 200,000 views. When they come for me first, it had 200,000 views. So I knew, I sort of made a video saying, well, send me a jail. Because I need the world to see, the world needs to see lawfare. They need to understand how it's operated. You can't just keep reading headlines on people. You can't read a headline on this person being a sexual offender or this person being that, without knowing what's going on behind the scenes of that. How come every single person who speaks up of, all of a sudden,

• 1:18:56Speaker 03

  even if you look at Russell Brand, for example, Russell Brand was the darling of the left. He spoke out against Big Pharma. And he's facing loads of prosecutions for sexual crimes. It's like, across the board, anyone who, anyone who tries to bring these, any of these conversations to the forefront is attacked.

• 1:19:12Patrick Bet-David?

  What's your solution? How do you fix this at this point? How do you fix it? The percentage you got is not a small number.

• 1:19:21Speaker 03

  Well, we fix it. You've started it in the United States of America. Um, we had no hope until your election. So your election and the ripple that was coming out of the United States for free speech. Do you know how, I've just been in prison and I sat there and I listened to Keir Starmer. And I listened to him in the Oval Office, talking to J D Vance and President Trump, talking about free speech. Do you know how infuriating it is and insulting it is when I'm sat in solitary confinement for making a film? No one's challenged the facts that are in the film, no one. Not one journalist has even spoke about it, none of them. And I done, so in two thousand, I know I'm going all over here. When I, you know, I spoke about, they give me thirteen months in prison for reporting outside a court case.

• 1:20:03Speaker 03

  When I come out of court that time, when I got released from prison, I was told, I, I, I, I got my computer. I, I logged into my computer. Two of my old employees who worked for me, one of them was still logged into the emails. So I went through the emails. We have a organisation in the United Kingdom called Hope Not Hate. Is it Media Matters?

• 1:20:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Media Matters, yes.

• 1:20:24Speaker 03

  They're the left wing. That is the equivalent in the UK of Hope Not Hate.

• 1:20:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Got it.

• 1:20:28Speaker 03

  So Hope Not Hate received George Soros funding. Their job, you don't need laws to prohibit free speech because these organisations who receive millions of pounds. Anyone who speaks out with any influence or education or anything, they find out where they work, they contact their H R departments. They, they stifle free speech by attacking, smearing and lying. I come out of jail, I turn the laptop on, I'm still logged into one of my employees' emails. I start going through his emails and I start looking back, maybe I shouldn't have. I'll find out he's in contact with Hope Not Hate. So I'm looking, thinking, he's employed by me. And he wasn't just employed by me, he was working with Alex Jones. He was working with Lawrence Southern. He was working with so many people in the right, everyone in the right he was working with. And then I looked at the times and dates and he's, they're paying for his travel, they're sending him money.

• 1:21:13Speaker 03

  I think, what's going on here? So I, I bring him up and I find out then that Panorama, you heard of Panorama? Panorama is the BBC's flagship documentary maker. So they are seen in the UK as the most authentic investigative documentary makers. What they say is factual, yeah? I see that Panorama are working on a piece about, against me. So I ring, and I, I then make a documentary and. In this documentary, what they're doing against me, I send a girl wearing a hidden camera. So Panorama are known for covert surveillance. They investigate and they expose things. So I sent a girl to wear a covert camera into Panorama. The head of Panorama's name was John Sweeney.

• 1:21:57Speaker 03

  This man was the biggest face of the BBC. Yeah. He's, he's, he's, um, he goes in, I send the girl in and I get her wearing a wire. And I get him on camera saying that they're going to make me into a sexual figure. They're going to make me Harvey Weinstein. Yeah. So they're going around all my old employees. Anyone I fell out with, this is how it works. This is the operation. So anyone I fell out with, anyone who had to contact me from when I was a child, this group will contact him. But the BBC don't contact them. In step, hope not hate. In step, an organisation who can sit down and pay you, I'll give you £20,000. Yeah. Then they pay them £20,000, they tell them what they need to say. They then bring in Panorama, whose hands are clean. Yeah.

• 1:22:43Speaker 03

  They sit down, they use this source of information, they make a documentary talking about me. And then they show it to the world. And then they have source after source after source. But what you don't get to see is that those sources are being paid. So I sent a covert, I got covert recordings of this man, John Sweeney. I get him sitting down saying, right, what I want you to say. He doesn't realise it on camera. What I want you to say, tell me this, tell me this, tell me this, do we have a deal? Yeah. Then the girl, so I send the next employee in. They contact the next employee who didn't like me because I sacked her. She comes to me, says, it's sick what they're about to do to you. I've got to tell you. She hated me. Yeah. She says, this isn't right, what they're going to do to you. And I shit myself.

• 1:23:23Speaker 03

  And the reason they've done this, the government, when I come out of jail, government, the government paid research was going on to social media, Facebook, to find out people's opinions on me. Now, the reason being that 600,000 British people signed a petition demanding my release from prison. This is 2017, when I'm in jail for reporting outside the court case. 30,000 people marched on Parliament. These sort of numbers aren't thinkable for, in the UK, it's worrying for the government. So they're working in on this documentary to take me down. I then say to the girl, right, okay. So they're contacting you, she doesn't like me, she could have sat down and lied to them about anything, they would have broadcast it, yeah? So I said, okay, can we put a camera on you? Let's go to them, you tell them about an argument we've had, yeah?

• 1:24:06Speaker 03

  We did have an argument, it was about a demonstration, it's about Mohammed Hijab. Nothing about sex or anything, a- and she goes to him and says, right, I've got a recording on Tommy Robinson. He's really aggressive and he's shouting at me. And then she says, but I was screaming at him and she starts saying it was my fault. And he says, don't worry, we'll clip all those bits out. He doesn't really lose, he's on camera. He goes, we're gonna make this into a sexual thing against Tommy Robinson. That's what he says on camera, yeah? So I'm sitting there, getting all this, she comes back and what I did, now they're the best investigations in the world. So I sit and get a laptop with this girl who doesn't like me. I said, well, I'm at home in bed, yeah? She goes on the, on the computer and she looks up sendthefaketext.com. So she sends herself a text message that looks like it's from me.

• 1:24:48Speaker 03

  Saying, if you work with Panorama, I'm gonna bury you, you bitch. So we're sitting together, I said, see, I haven't sent this text message, I'm in bed, you know? But these are working, let's see if they even check if this is legit. So she does this message, send us, sendthefaketext.com. John Sweeney, they're trying to contact me because they've been working on all this dirt they've got on me. So you see the, what you're seeing here. So what I do is I go and set up a studio like this. I put a camera on the wall, I put a screen on the wall. And I only give them a day's notice, I said, right, I'll meet ya, it has to be on my grounds, meet me here. And my heart's like this, I'm terrified, because Panorama are gonna finish me. They're about to tell the whole country, I'm a sex case, they're about to tell the whole country, all these things about me. And I then, he sits down, but what, what, what we find out in this?

• 1:25:33Speaker 03

  That my two old employees are being blackmailed, so I ring my old employees who are working with Hope Not Hate. I ring them and say, Caleb, I've got someone inside Hope Not Hate. I know you met them on this date at this time, but I'm, I'm blagging them, I've got it from the emails. I know you met them, he's like, Tommy, they've been blackmailing us for ye- for the last year. How are they blackmailing you? When we lost our job with Rebel Media, we were so annoyed with Rebel Media that we went to these groups. We took money off them to give information on the right wing. Yeah, I said, okay. And they they're going to expose that we've we've done this. They've got evidence we've done this. So then they forced us. We've got to help take you down. And they threatened us with the police, all these different things, politicians. Now, Hope Not Hate, the head of Hope Not Hate are politicians.

• 1:26:18Speaker 03

  Hope Not Hate are the deep state. You want to see the deep state? It's Hope Not Hate. So I've done two documentaries, yeah? This is why they hate me. So Panorama, I think they're taking me down. I then get all this recorded information on them. I sit down for an interview. They sit down for Panorama with Kalen, my old employee. He does an interview. Present in the interview with Panorama that we pay for BBC are Hope Not Hate. Hope Not Hate, when he doesn't say enough negative stuff about me, they take him outside. And they say, you better go in there and say this, you better go in there and say that. So when I sit down with John Sweeney from Panorama, and this is all on this documentary, I sit down and say, whose documentary is this? Is it BBC's? He says, yeah. I said, so is yours? So it's nothing to do with any organisation, only other.

• 1:27:03Speaker 03

  They're not, because Panorama, Hope Not Hate are named by the Swedish government as a far-left extremist organisation. George Soros funds them. They're a radical group, but they have establishment power. Yeah, they're used by the establishment to destroy people. They do, the media, the media can't offer you money, the police can't, they can't entrap you. They do it. They're the group that comes in and does it. So then John Sweeney sits down and I said, would you ever, who's working on this? He said, us. I said, so this is not a Hope Not Hate documentary? Says, no. So I then have messages. I said, really? That's not what they say here? And I said, look on the screen, John. I said, John, would you ever tell anyone what to say in a documentary? Would you do that? You didn't do that. Yeah, I said, would you ever do that? And he says, no. I said, no, just a press play.

• 1:27:47Speaker 03

  And all the BBC's producers are sat there. Now, I've done loads of. This video, like? It's all on there. It's all on there. You've got to see it because they they all put their heads in their hands. All the producers, nobody do a documentary. This was the. What minute is it on? Um, this is it. This is me and him talking now. So this is the bit where you hear them, they're saying they're blackmailing them. They they see the hand on the head, like that bit.

• 1:28:10Speaker 03

  This finished them. That's their producers.

• 1:28:13Speaker 05

  And you've got to do like Skies or one mainstream media thing. Um, and then I went back to London to drop something off. I had to go, that's his name. So Caitlin, this Latin Miller.

• 1:28:26Speaker 03

  What do you mean? I mean, they snuck into his room. This is the deepest, maddest stuff. They stuck into his room when he was asleep. Hope not, hey, it's all in this documentary. They got him into a position, sexual. He's gay, my ex employee, yeah? They, but it's all in here, the recordings are all in here. Now, I've done so many documentaries over the years with the mainstream media. You usually just have the presenter and someone else. When I done this one, all the producers were there. They had no idea what I had on them. So I said, would you tell anyone what to say? And he said, no, I said, press play. And then it's a recording of him covert. And all of them just go like this. And they thought, and they're sitting. Now, before, once I got this information, I got so much that this exposed them so bad panorama, yeah?

• 1:29:10Speaker 03

  Welcome, welcome, and look, you see those bits there? What I did is played, I played the beep, listeners.

• 1:29:17Speaker 03

  So it's a yes or no, it's a simple yes or no?

• 1:29:20Speaker 05

  Simply, look, Tommy, we're wasting time.

• 1:29:21Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 1:29:22Speaker 06

  We must ensure we avoid bias or imbalance of views. Our output will be based on fairness, openness and straight dealing. contributors will be treated honestly and with respect.

• 1:29:35Speaker 03

  No, they were setting me up. Everything you think you know, do you know we hear about fake news? Donald Trump spoke about fake news. I nailed them, yeah? But what happened from this? When I was first exposed, remember I used a fake name when I started the infidelity because I was scared of my family? There was a journalist called Stephen Bird for the Times newspaper. He uncovered me on the front page of the Times newspaper. I kept in a relationship with him. So when I got all this, I contacted him. I said, mate, I have got a panorama. It's making up allegations. I've got them covertly recorded on everything, yeah? He come to see me, I played it to him. He said, mate, this is massive. I said, yeah, John Sweeney, they're fucked. Like, they're in trouble here, big trouble. He went, he said, let me go and see my editors.

• 1:30:19Speaker 03

  He come back next day, he said, Tommy, I'm not allowed to run it. So what do you mean you're not allowed to run it? So I'm not allowed to run it. I said, you're meant to be a journalist. How can you not be allowed to run the biggest breaking story that exposes the BBC there's ever been? How can you not? So he weren't allowed to run it. I then hired the biggest screen in the country. I played this documentary outside the BBC on a fifty me, on the biggest screen. I put it online. Within twenty four hours, it had two million views.

• 1:30:45Patrick Bet-David?

  What year is this? Eighteen?

• 1:30:46Speaker 03

  Eighteen, nineteen. I was deleted twenty four hours later. Facebook removed me. YouTube removed me. I was deleted from every single social media. And the Attorney General prosecuted me for the crime I'd already been released from prison for. I got straight, I went straight back to jail. And when they'd done that, you know, to stop this film, what Facebook did is made my mention of my name illegal. So Mike, you can't even, you can't say, you can't share any content from Tommy Robinson. You can't mention the name of Tommy Robinson. Now, all of this was in response to this film. Now, this film went out, that's, that's us showing it. This film went out, you have to watch that film to understand. It's the biggest expose the BBC has ever faced. And their response to it was to end me again.

• 1:31:28Speaker 03

  But they were, they, they thought that their documentary that they'd created with fake news was going to end me. And I spun it and produced it and ended his. And, and as I'm talking to him, this, we have a big argument. I said, you were about to ruin my life.

• 1:31:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Is that in the, in the?

• 1:31:41Speaker 03

  It's all in there.

• 1:31:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, can you go to that part?

• 1:31:43Speaker 03

  So you'll see.

• 1:31:44Patrick Bet-David?

  What minute would it be in?

• 1:31:45Speaker 03

  Uh, so get, play the film again. Fast forward.

• 1:31:50Speaker 03

  Keep going, keep going. They're the COVID recordings of him lying. I got him being racist, homophobic, talking about shooting gays, the head of the BBC. I got him nailed on everything, everything they accused us of. It is them. Do you know the comments he made about working class? Do you know, so you understand the working class? He said, we heard about someone being working class. He said, we wanted to go visit this work. In the green room in the BBC, there was someone who was working class. You know, like you'd go and see an animal in the Mongolian, um, desert, Mongolian jungle or something like that, he said. Like, that's how they view us. That's the comments he made. So he calls me from scumbag Irish background, as in poor, because my mum's Irish and poor. This is the way they view us. And this nailed it. But if you keep going, you'll see at the end when I get up, like.

• 1:32:35Speaker 03

  Wow. But this, and do you know the fake texts? So send a fake text dot com. When I'm, when he, when we're going through all this, he kept going for his pocket. And I'm, I'm playing. I said, no, hold on. One more thing. Let's see what he's saying in. So I'm playing. I said, would you ever be racist, John? No. Press play. Homophobic John. Press play. This John. Press play. And everything. And then at the end he go, he, he, he gets out of his pocket and he says, yeah, Tommy, you said, you said you'd bury her. I just looked at the camera and said, I told you. I told you. They didn't even check it. Cause it suited their narrative. So they, say like yourself. If I say I want to make a hit documentary on you. This is what the BBC do. That's what they do on everyone.

• 1:33:18Speaker 03

  You've seen the whole, I don't know what to believe in any of the cases. So when they go Andrew Tate, when they go all these different people, they'll go through every single person you've ever fell out with. Now, how many of those people would be willing to make stuff up? Especially if you give them a 20 grand cheque. Yeah. So this is Hope Not Hate, working with these. I produced a BBC documentary. And is that him with a bit of paper? Press play. John says he would give me the right to reply to which I would say it's fake. But the fake allegation that I threatened to murder my ex female employee would effectively be aired to millions of people across the world. And I'm certain every national newspaper would run with the headline, Tommy Robinson threatens to kill female employee. I wanted to prove, and I've just proved how easy it is for fake news to be created and for people to be targeted and their lives destroyed.

• 1:34:00Speaker 07

  You have been harassed. And all that from a John, my John. And he's got a judge and not what we brought. So, so this is deception.

• 1:34:08Speaker 03

  My solicitor is Korean.

• 1:34:10Speaker 07

  Very good.

• 1:34:10Speaker 03

  Korean Accort injunction against you.

• 1:34:13Speaker 07

  Okay. Oh, fantastic.

• 1:34:14Speaker 03

  Against you.

• 1:34:14Speaker 07

  So you. So is this a lie?

• 1:34:16Speaker 03

  This is, this is, this is fake news exposed.

• 1:34:19Speaker 07

  Very good.

• 1:34:19Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 1:34:20Speaker 07

  Is this a lie, Tommy?

• 1:34:21Speaker 03

  I suggest you.

• 1:34:22Speaker 07

  Tommy Robinson, yes. Is this a lie?

• 1:34:24Speaker 03

  I never said, I never said that. This is my phone.

• 1:34:28Speaker 07

  Oh, it wasn't sent from that phone?

• 1:34:30Speaker 03

  It wasn't sent from my phone, I didn't send it.

• 1:34:31Speaker 07

  Oh, you hold on, it wasn't sent from the phone, I didn't send it. Is this a lie?

• 1:34:35Speaker 03

  You'll be able to catch all of my documentary.

• 1:34:37Speaker 07

  Is this a lie?

• 1:34:37Speaker 03

  You'll be able to catch all of my documentary.

• 1:34:38Speaker 07

  No, we have.

• 1:34:39Speaker 03

  Now, we've finished. No, no, we have finished. You've had, you've had, John, you've finished your career. You've finished your career.

• 1:34:44Speaker 07

  I'm sorry, sir.

• 1:34:45Speaker 03

  I know, sorry. I know, sorry. Homophobe are racist and...

• 1:34:48Speaker 07

  So, this is a lie. I'm not a homophobe.

• 1:34:50Speaker 03

  You are.

• 1:34:51Speaker 07

  And I'm not a racist.

• 1:34:52Speaker 03

  You are.

• 1:34:53Speaker 07

  I'm not, I'm not, okay.

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• 1:35:20Speaker 01

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• 1:35:50Speaker 07

  This is a lie. And what this is, mate? What this is, this picture? What is this?

• 1:35:55Speaker 03

  What happened? He put him on gardening leave for nine months, and then he was gone. And then they tried to bury it. Remember, this documentary, not one single British media reported on it. They put him on gardening leave, he was the head of the, head of the face of the BBC. Nine months later, they sacked him. And then when they sacked him, he come out and said, Tommy Robert, he made it, he said it was all because of me. Tommy, his career's gone, he's gone. Yeah? Well, I say gone, they still bring him back.

• 1:36:18Patrick Bet-David?

  How, how well did this, did this clip do in the States? In America?

• 1:36:22Speaker 03

  Uh, it was science, so probably not that well.

• 1:36:25Patrick Bet-David?

  I've never seen this.

• 1:36:26Speaker 03

  No, mate, watch that documentary, it finishes them. Yeah? But what, what, what people need to understand is, if Panorama are doing that to me... Every single story, panorama used for the weapons of ma- weapons of ke- chemical weapons used by Assad, yeah? It's like, really? I don't believe a word you say. Assad had already won the war. Why is he using chemical weapons? So, all of these different things.

• 1:36:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Go back to the question, though. I asked you the question. So, so the question was, all right, so here's the problem. Here's the issue. What's taking place? What's your solution? How do you solve this in your country while you don't have the royal family support? You don't have the prime minister's support. He used to build these guys out. You, you don't have the part, you don't have anybody. How are you gonna solve it?

• 1:37:02Speaker 03

  Uh, my, I believe my role is to wake people up with my documentary formats. Because when enough of the public understand what's happening, remember, most of them have been lied to. Most of them think a nigger, anyone who stops me in the street, it doesn't like me. When I ask them why, right? People might say, you're a racist. What have I ever said that's racist? Yeah? I've never said anything racist. So, but they have this opinion of who they think I am.

• 1:37:22Patrick Bet-David?

  How do they treat you? I heard you went to a restaurant to have dinner and you got kicked out after an hour of sitting there. Then the manager comes out and said, we can't serve you. We, we, our employees don't feel very uncomfortable with you. How is it for you in the streets of UK right now?

• 1:37:34Speaker 03

  It's changed, um.

• 1:37:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Better or worse?

• 1:37:37Speaker 03

  Uh, better, far better. I get hero's reception everywhere I go now. So, that restaurant, so that obviously there's a break. London's a different, London's like a different country to the rest of the UK as well. Yeah, London's very different. Population of London, it's not a working class uh, uh, city. So, I get a good reception in most places. But this happened, this was this week. This was in the last 10 days coming out of custody. But you see Hope Not Hate, who fabricated that story? Hope Not Hate were involved. I then made, Hope Not Hate were the government NGO. I then made an expose documentary on Hope Not Hate. I finished them. I, I got, I got proof that how many people they paid to, that, so what, they create the source of information. The media then act as a weapon. They take illegitimate sources who are lying, uh, who are being paid. And then they pump it to you, the public, day in, day out.

• 1:38:21Speaker 03

  That's my Hope Not Hate expose documentary. This is the reason I had to be censored. This is the reason I was removed from social media, from X, uh, from Twitter. So Elon Musk gave me back my voice. And the reason was that we were reaching, we were bypassing the media, going straight into people's lounges on their phones and showing them, here's what they're doing. So when you say, how do we tackle it? If the population, I always say if the population were aware of the risk to Great Britain, there'd be a revolution tomorrow. If you knew what's coming, if everyone in Britain knew what's coming, if they knew what Islam's gonna do, if they knew the attack on freedom, if we knew the true agenda of those in control of us and what they want for us, people, there'd be a revolution tomorrow. But they don't know because they're lied to, they're controlled continuously,

• 1:39:04Speaker 03

  which is why the biggest thing we have is free speech, but that's why, that's why.

• 1:39:09Patrick Bet-David?

  You don't have free speech.

• 1:39:10Speaker 03

  That's why they attack it.

• 1:39:10Patrick Bet-David?

  You don't have free speech. You just had a lady, uh, uh, uh, Rob, if you can play this clip. Christian lady is praying, uh, silent prayers. I got three names here. Isabel Vaughan Spruce, a Christian pro-life volunteer, was arrested twice in Birmingham for silently praying near a abortion clinic. Adam Smith Connor, a military veteran, was convicted in October of last year for silently praying near an abortion clinic in Bournemouth, and he was fined nine thousand pounds. Olivia Toshiki Bolt, in April of 2025, was convicted, this is last month, for standing near an abortion clinic in southern England, holding a sign that read, "Here to talk if you want," despite the sign not referencing abortion or religious matters.

• 1:39:54Patrick Bet-David?

  She was found guilty of breaching the buffer zone and was ordered to pay twenty thousand pounds. Here's the clip of one of them, Rob, if you can play it.

• 1:40:04Speaker 08

  Are you protesting?

• 1:40:05Speaker 09

  No.

• 1:40:07Speaker 08

  Are you here to brave the lives of under Gornfield?

• 1:40:10Speaker 09

  Um, as I've mentioned to one of your colleagues before, I think that's a little bit of a leading question. No, I'm not actually today.

• 1:40:17Speaker 08

  Can the actions be carried out or silent?

• 1:40:20Speaker 09

  Um, I'm, I'm not doing any actions. I'm, I'm just simply thinking silently in my head.

• 1:40:27Speaker 08

  Okay, and why have you changed the use location to sign?

• 1:40:30Speaker 09

  Um, this is an abortion centre. I'm praying for those who've been hurt by abortion.

• 1:40:38Speaker 08

  So, like I said before, are you here to pay the life of an unborn child?

• 1:40:43Speaker 09

  Yes.

• 1:40:44Speaker 08

  Say yeah.

• 1:40:44Speaker 09

  I said no.

• 1:40:45Speaker 08

  Did not.

• 1:40:46Speaker 09

  I'm praying for those who've been hurt by abortion.

• 1:40:48Speaker 08

  Hurt by abortion?

• 1:40:48Speaker 09

  Yes, that's right.

• 1:40:52Speaker 08

  Are you aware there's a public slave protection order in place here?

• 1:40:57Speaker 09

  Yes, I don't know if you know, but I have actually been arrested twice. I've gone to court and been acquitted for allegedly my silent prayers. I've actually received an email from the police telling me I'm allowed to be in this area. I don't know if you're familiar with that situation at all.

• 1:41:14Speaker 08

  This is a breeding area?

• 1:41:15Speaker 09

  Yes, that's right. That's why I was arrested previously. So yes, I'm very much aware there's a PSPO in place.

• 1:41:20Speaker 08

  Okay. Are you aware that you're breaching the public borders?

• 1:41:25Patrick Bet-David?

  You see breeding like the sequels?

• 1:41:27Speaker 09

  I'm not breaching it, no.

• 1:41:32Speaker 03

  She's getting arrested. You wouldn't know about this if it wasn't for someone like Elon Musk buying X. Because the level of censorship and control that they took back through social media, through big tech. So when I'm on about free speech, no, we don't have free speech, but we need to reach the public with what's happening.

• 1:41:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Is YouTube open in the UK?

• 1:41:50Speaker 03

  YouTube just opened my account last week.

• 1:41:53Patrick Bet-David?

  No, YouTube period. So people on YouTube see these videos, in the UK see these videos on YouTube.

• 1:41:57Speaker 03

  So.

• 1:41:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Meaning YouTube is accessible in the UK?

• 1:42:00Speaker 03

  Yeah, YouTube's accessible, but I was banned up until last week.

• 1:42:02Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm aware of that, right? So, so meaning the people can see these things and sit there and decipher between the BS and say, what do you mean BBC? What do you? This is not true. Is that causing ruckus for people to want to rise up and do something about it?

• 1:42:19Speaker 03

  That's causing the, I say we're on the border of a revolution. I've been saying that. We held demonstrations just before we went to jail in that 12-month period. We went from 30,000 to 100,000 to 150,000 people. These numbers aren't heard of in our capital C. We're now planning one on the 13th of September, a free speech event. I think we'll have in excess of half a million people turning up. The public are awake now.

• 1:42:42Patrick Bet-David?

  So you're talking about that and then we see when October 7th happens and there's a video, I believe, I don't know when this video was, Rob, with Mohammed Hijab and quite a few of his crew out there in the streets.

• 1:42:55Speaker 03

  Hunting down Jews.

• 1:42:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, so this is.

• 1:42:58Speaker 03

  They don't get arrested.

• 1:42:58Patrick Bet-David?

  So, but why, can you play this clip, Rob?

• 1:43:03Patrick Bet-David?

  This is where?

• 1:43:05Speaker 03

  It's in London, Newcastle.

• 1:43:08Speaker 05

  It was terrified. The boys had to be rescued by the police as bottles and eggs rained down on them.

• 1:43:15Speaker 03

  The thing is, they just don't get arrested.

• 1:43:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Why though?

• 1:43:18Speaker 03

  Because of the two-tier policing, so people aren't...

• 1:43:19Speaker 05

  Hijab that police officer that he'd killed...

• 1:43:22Speaker 03

  The law not enforcing it.

• 1:43:23Speaker 05

  He saw it again.

• 1:43:24Speaker 03

  He saw this...

• 1:43:25Patrick Bet-David?

  I want to show this, so keep playing his...

• 1:43:27Speaker 08

  When those Zionists came in with their dogs, that was an act of provocation. So what we're saying now, and I'm making it very clear so everyone understands, if those dogs come close to us again, we will see it as an act of aggression and we will kill those dogs, we will put them down.

• 1:43:41Speaker 05

  Hijab and Dawa then led the crowd to Spiga's Corner. And as the mob marched through London's streets screaming, "We'll find some Jews, we want their blood", the police did nothing. Let that sink in. They're calling for our literal blood and the police are just...

• 1:43:57Speaker 03

  He's an activist within the Jewish community. Does good work.

• 1:44:02Speaker 08

  The Zionists know on the block.

• 1:44:06Speaker 08

  This is the next anti-Jewish edition.

• 1:44:10Speaker 05

  A couple of hours later, we were violent, he's...

• 1:44:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Not a threat in London. You can do this and you're not getting arrested. That's not...

• 1:44:16Speaker 03

  They can do this, not going to arrest it. If someone else makes a comment against transgenderism, if someone else makes a comment against Islam, they'll probably get their door kicked off by the SWAT team. They're protected. The Islamic community are protected and can act this way. Do you know there's a case? Some Muslims drove down from the north of England into the Jewish area. They drove through in their cars with speakers and megaphones, talking about raping the Jewish daughters. They got arrested because it was such a fury. They didn't get prosecuted. They did not get prosecuted. Now, do you know how many people have been arrested? We hear so much from our politicians about free speech or lying about free speech. The amount of arrests in the UK compared to Russia, China, any of these countries for social media, the UK's the highest out of all of them. You could combine all these countries together and it's the UK.

• 1:45:00Speaker 03

  So we keep, the UK government pretend about free speech whilst absolutely attacking anyone who goes against their narrative and their agenda. The Islamic community, when you look at the local, there was a Gaza, you know, we now have five MPs who got voted in on the Gaza issue. Basically, five jihadist MPs now are in parliament, yeah? When the Labour Party, who have pandered, bowed and surrendered to the Islamic community for their block vote, over the Israel situation since October 7th, many Muslims started stepping away from them, and it showed how many seats they lost, or how close the votes become. Which is why then, when you look at the Labour Party now on the Islamic rape gang scandal, if they give this national inquiry, they'd lose the Muslim vote.

• 1:45:42Speaker 03

  They'd lose the Muslim vote to the independents who are rising anyway, and they'd lose power. Just Phillips, the one that Elon Musk was hammering, I think she only won her seat by 700 votes. Now, when she won her seat by 700 votes, she only wins her seats by getting on her knees, bending and surrendering to Islamic community, because that's how big the Islamic community is in that community. Now, if this is happening now, they say 5, 6, 7% of the UK population is Islamic. What does anyone think it's going to be like, when it gets to 20%, 25%? And you even hear figures like Nigel Farage saying, "By 2050, there's going to be this many Muslims, so we now have to start preparing and working along with Islam." It's like, no, we need to stop that. We need to stop.

• 1:46:20Patrick Bet-David?

  How do you stop it, though?

• 1:46:21Speaker 03

  Well, they did stop it by trying to address the benefit system. So, my local MP, my local Imam, has 14 children with three wives. That's three council houses.

• 1:46:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Who's this?

• 1:46:33Speaker 03

  My local Imam.

• 1:46:34Patrick Bet-David?

  What's his name?

• 1:46:35Speaker 03

  Qadir Basque. He was the leader of Luton Islamic Centre. When I started my activism, Luton Islamic Centre was a radical jihadist centre. He was given a seat in the council with a Luton in Harmony programme. I used to try and expose, I translated everything off of his website.

• 1:46:49Patrick Bet-David?

  How do you spell his name?

• 1:46:50Speaker 03

  Qadir, Q-A-D, put Luton Islamic Centre, Qadir.

• 1:46:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Luton Islamic Centre.

• 1:46:57Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, guess what this used to be? And then Qadir was the Imam, put Imam. That used to be the old synagogue in Luton. Put, yeah, Imam. Yeah, now go down, you'll get the news clip. So basically, when I first started my activism, I said this guy's an extremist, and I tried tackling him, but he was given a seat at the, they created a Luton in Harmony programme, and this Imam was part of the Luton in Harmony programme. He was on local radio. This is the problem, the journalists don't have.

• 1:47:25Patrick Bet-David?

  I'd like to know who he is. I'd like to actually pull him up, Rob. Can you find him, or no?

• 1:47:29Speaker 03

  Yeah, so, Hadjel Basque, B-A, you've got to have it, Mike.

• 1:47:35Speaker 05

  Q-U.

• 1:47:39Speaker 03

  Q-U.

• 1:47:40Speaker 05

  Q double A.

• 1:47:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. Spidet backs.

• 1:47:54Speaker 05

  Here it is.

• 1:47:57Speaker 03

  That's him. This is, sorry.

• 1:48:01Patrick Bet-David?

  So he has got three wives, fourteen kids.

• 1:48:03Speaker 03

  Three wives, fourteen kids.

• 1:48:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Him, right there?

• 1:48:04Speaker 03

  No.

• 1:48:05Patrick Bet-David?

  No, that's not him. No.

• 1:48:08Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:48:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Is this him?

• 1:48:16Speaker 03

  Now, there'll be loads of news on him when you get a spill, that's him there. That's him. So you see him, yeah? Silver-tongued. Luton is Lammock Centre. So I start my activism and I try telling the council and telling everyone, no, these, these guys are the bad guys. Yeah? He gets a seat in the Luton in Harmony programme. Now, he's on the radio talking about me. Now, I live in Luton. So I just walk into the radio station, you'll find this, Pink News run the story. So if you Google Pink News and his name, you'll find the story. He's on the radio. So I go walking in and the radio host is like, well, seeing as we're talking about Tom Robinson and he is from Luton, he's just walked in. I said, yeah, I walked in, I want to ask Kadir a few questions. Let me sit down. So I sit down and I say, Kadir.

• 1:48:55Patrick Bet-David?

  With him?

• 1:48:55Speaker 03

  With him. And he's there. Because the journalists won't ask him the questions. Yeah? So I sit down and say, Kadir, you're part of the Luton in Harmony programme. I'm the extremist, apparently. Because I want, I want to ban the Nikar and I want to chat, speak about Sharia law and I'm deemed as the extremist and he's deemed as the moderate Imam. I said, in your ideal society, Kadir, in your ideal society, forget Britain, what you want for your society. What would happen to homosexuals? And he can't not answer. So journalists just should ask them the questions in the right way. He said, well, there'd be punishment. I said, yeah, so what punishment would there be, Kadir? Like, what punishment would there be? It's, it's death. You're part of the Luton in Harmony programme, yet you're the Imam and you want death for the homosexual community.

• 1:49:40Speaker 03

  Now, from this. In ideal society, we would punish homosexuals. This, this come out of my interview with him, just from asking him one or two questions. Where no journalist, they get these imams on the TV and I think, why aren't you not asking them questions? So when they ask that, in response to that, because he's the head teacher of a school, yeah? And I've been battling against this group for years, yeah? And just getting shut door in my face. He's sitting, the council, my council are having meetings with him and all his group and we're on the outside. We're the extremists. They're welcomed in, they're funded, the government are giving them money for their mosque, everything, yeah? So I'm in there, they then do an investigation into his mosque. And then they offsted, because he's a school, they raid the mosque. They find books for the children about punishing, killing, whipping women for adultery, cutting off of hands. All these different things in the school.

• 1:50:25Speaker 03

  Then we have a colleague, Masood, commits a terrorist attack. Westminster Bridge. Guess where he was working? Luton Islamic Centre. Guess where the Stockholm bomber went? Luton Islamic Centre. So now, all the things, and this is the level of infiltration, yeah? When I, when I was running English Defence League, Luton Mosque Challenge Bombers Extreme Views. These are the headlines that they gave as though they were heroes, yeah? Luton Mosque gets money from the Prevent Scheme. The government give every mosque in our country money to report if someone's an extremist. When that man went and blew something up, they had never reported him. But then they play the victim all the time, yeah? But, but Kadir Basque, they receive money. When all this is, when all this is blowing up and I'm trying to challenge him and we're being called the extremists.

• 1:51:09Speaker 03

  There was a group, Luton Borough Council introduced me to a man whose job it was to tackle far-right extremism. So when I met him, I was running the English Defence League, it was in the first couple of years of the English Defence League. He steps forwards and he said, right, he told me everything he wants to do. I want to tackle racism, I'm against extremism. I said, I support you in everything you say. Just come and spend three days with me. So I bring him to English Defence League meetings. And I say, right, this man's job wants to tackle racism, antisemitism, extremism, all that. And I said, he's just going to spend a few days listening to what we're doing. He then said to me, there's something different here because far-right groups wouldn't allow this. And I said, mate, this isn't far-right ideology. We're normal people who have had enough, yeah?

• 1:51:52Speaker 03

  So his job is to give presentations to councils. Now, after I've exposed Kadir Basque massively as an extremist radical jihadist supporter. Yeah, because that's who he is. When the Khalid Masood attack comes, the national newspapers are ringing me when they realise. And I've got all of them ringing me saying, what do you know on him? I said, this school, I'm giving them every bit of information because I know everything in my hometown about these groups. I've been following them. I know where they all are. And then there's raids going on at the time and it's all blown up. I'm feeding them all, all, all the information on who he is. Then the police have education and they have people going in and educating them on the far right and on Islam. So this gentleman whose job it is to tackle racism turns up after all of this. He turns up to a seminar, who's educating the police on Islam?

• 1:52:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Get out of here.

• 1:52:38Speaker 03

  I swear to God.

• 1:52:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Get out of here.

• 1:52:39Speaker 03

  This is the level they're at. So no one's even, he's a terrorist supporter. Yeah, when they're going in, he's telling the police how to, what phrases to use, what.

• 1:52:47Patrick Bet-David?

  What other Muslim leaders and influencers have you confronted in UK?

• 1:52:52Speaker 03

  I've confronted all, so in the UK, I was the only.

• 1:52:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Have you and Hijab ever done a podcast together?

• 1:52:57Speaker 03

  Well, I'll tell you what Hijab done, just like 12 months ago. Hijab sent letters to my children's home. They say, this is how they operate, yeah? So he sent legal letters. So what I said is, I said Mohammed Hijab is a caveman because he is, yeah? His ideologies belong 1400 years ago with his prophet. Now, what he believes is it's okay, and he says this, yeah? Sexual relationship once a child starts puberty, because that's what Mohammed did. Now, it's hard to have these conversations anyway. No one wants to hear them, yeah? So I made a video saying about his deranged backward views to try and intimidate me, which is what it was because that's what they do. He sent letters to my children's home, just to let me know where my kids are, legal letters, yeah? I responded the next day by posting those legal letters straight through his home.

• 1:53:42Speaker 03

  Because as I said, I do my homework and, and what they're used to doing is intimidating and installing fear in people and people shutting up. And the problem is, it's not just them. My biggest fear, I don't fear me handing hijab, a clown like that, it's a joke. I don't feel, even the jihadists, my fear ain't to walk down the street and get stabbed. I've sort of accepted that. I've accepted where I stand in that position. When they started arresting people and catching them with guns and bombs, and I had all these threats of Al Shabab named me to be killed. When that happened, I sort of, yes, I struggled to deal with it. As a young man, I probably struggled to deal with it. But once I accepted it, that's not what I fear. I fear the establishment. I fear the government. I fear what they're doing

• 1:54:24Speaker 03

  now. That's my worry. I fear what they're doing right now. As I said, I've just come out of custody. You know when the riots hit off? And this is where they all work together. I've made multiple documentaries. And their problem is, my documentaries absolutely hammer them. I'm not saying it. I've become very good at what I do with journalism, and they don't like it. And the way we fight back is to show the public. I need the public to understand, and I counter their lies, which is why when they were able to censor us for so many years, and you couldn't even mention us, we were on obscure little websites, we were on Getter, we weren't on the mainstream. When Elon Musk gave me back my voice, by having a basic belief in free speech. I was away, I was in Spain,

• 1:55:05Speaker 03

  and then I come back to the UK. I organise a demonstration on Armistice Day, October 7th happens. Palestinian, the Palestinian cause, jihadists that took over our capital city, they're literally standing on the streets of our capital city calling for jihad. They're literally flying Hamas Hezbollah flags. All of these are crimes. Nothing's being done. We're watching as they're taking over universities, they're taking over capital cities in every Western nation. And probably from the police's point of view, if there's one person that was going to galvanise and mobilise a resistance to that in the streets of the UK, it would be me. I fly back to the UK. They're then talking about Armistice Day, which is the day that we remember our armed forces, we show respects. They were releasing videos and commentary to say that there's going to be no silence. We have a two-minute silence. There's going to be

• 1:55:51Speaker 03

  no silence. I then made a video saying, well, you're not, we can't rely on the police to stop them getting to our war memorials. We have no faith in the police preventing them because they literally run away from them. They call for jihad, the police stand there smiling. Not just smiling, you know when they call for jihad, the police, the Met Police put out a statement saying jihad can mean inner struggle. It's like... They're waving terrorist flags. They're calling for Muslim armies. Yeah, they're not all about an inner struggle, guys. How, what clowns have you got operating for the Metropolitan Police? Everything is apologetic from the police force. I then made a video saying, we're gonna, um, we're mobilizing now. British men are gonna come to our capital city. You're not gonna get near that war memorial. Do you know what? Straight away, I received from the Attorney General. My solicitors received a letter from the Attorney General saying that they're contemplating prosecuting me for contempt of court again.

• 1:56:36Speaker 03

  This is now the contempt of court that I was just in prison for. Yeah. They then made a video that they, they then said they threatened to imprison me again. I organized my demonstration. We went into London and they were happy to hand over our capital city to jihadist groups. Whatever's easiest for the police. And they can't go, say, say they're holding a license flag. If the police went in and tried to stop them, there's a riot and the police know it. So constantly they just allow it. But you saw the Palestinian demonstrations. You saw the hatred. They're calling for gas and the Jews. Literally what the most hatred we've seen on our streets of our capital city and the police are standing there with big smiles on their faces. Yet if it was a British.

• 1:57:15Patrick Bet-David?

  How much influence do Jews have in, in, in UK?

• 1:57:18Speaker 03

  Jews are a very small community in the UK. Now, there's obviously the conspiracy which comes from the, the, the genuine Nazis and far right that the Jews control everything. I think if they control everything and they control the media, they're not doing a very good job, are they? Because everything's attacking them. And, and, and for.

• 1:57:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, because there was a tweet exchange between you and, um, you and Dan Bilzerian, I believe. Rob, if you want to pull that one up, there was, um.

• 1:57:42Speaker 03

  And it's.

• 1:57:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you have it? Do you know which one I'm talking about where slavery, money, and then you responded back to him, um. Uh, uh, uh, uh, let's see which one it is. I'll pull it up here. Uh, he said, you will remain a slave as long as you worship money. May 31st. He said this at one of Tate's tweets. You respond back, said, uh, Iran's bitch talking about escaping slavery. Dan's been very critical of Jews, right? Very. And I don't know if Tate, uh, do you and Tate have a relationship together?

• 1:58:13Speaker 03

  So me and Tate, before he was Tate, um, we're from the same town. So, yeah, we do. Yeah, we're friends.

• 1:58:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Friends till today.

• 1:58:21Speaker 03

  Uh, friends till today.

• 1:58:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Till today.

• 1:58:23Speaker 03

  So Fred, so what's happened is, I, this is my view. So if you look at Qatar, Qatar has spent.

• 1:58:28Patrick Bet-David?

  But you know what? I wanna, I wanna preface this. The reason why I'm saying this is if Jews are as powerful as they are. And they own all these politicians around the world. How is UK in the state that it is? Where Muslims are able to do what they're doing would get in the way with it if Jews have this much power?

• 1:58:49Speaker 03

  Well, they're not, it's, it's, it's an easy way out is to blame the Jews for everything, yeah? So even Muslims, even, even when it comes to ISIS or terrorism, they say, oh, they're Jewish groups, everything's Jewish groups. Oh, that's a false flag, that was the Jews, that was a terrorist, because it's nothing to do with us, that was Jews as well, everything's a Jews. Now, with the anti-Jew hatred, I think my camp for Hitler's book is seven percent Jew hatred. The Quran is eleven percent. Take Israel out of the equation. Uh, Mohammed hated the Jews if, if, if Israel wasn't there. Now, I've, I've always, I get called a Zionist, yeah? I get called a Zionist all the time, I have this big, people attack me all the time, saying funded by, I've never received any funding. I just give my honest opinion. Israel was surrounded by totalitarian Islam.

• 1:59:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Did Schillman support you or Robert Schillman?

• 1:59:33Speaker 03

  No, I've never, no, I've never spoke to Robert Schillman in my life.

• 1:59:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Stories saying that he paid you six thousand dollars a month, anything like that?

• 1:59:38Speaker 03

  I, I worked, so, and I had this with, so say like, who, Daz, Daz Ziljan, whatever his name is. Is he making money on YouTube? Because if he is, the owners of YouTube are Zionists, which means he's receiving funding from Zionists. That's what they've done to me. So I work for Ezra Levan. I've never met Robert Schillman.

• 1:59:54Patrick Bet-David?

  That's Sky News, Ezra is a...

• 1:59:56Speaker 03

  Ezra is a rebel media.

• 1:59:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Rebel media, yes.

• 1:59:58Speaker 03

  He's Jewish in Canada.

• 1:59:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Right.

• 2:00:00Speaker 03

  I worked for him, it was five thousand pound a month wage, yeah? And because Bob Schillman gave donations or funding to Ezra, I've never met him, never had a conversation with him.

• 2:00:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Got it.

• 2:00:11Speaker 03

  So because he gave them money and I took away from them, it's exactly the same as, in fact, any company. If you pick any company and you look somewhere, there'll be some Jewish person involved in it, they'll say, oh, you're receiving funding from, from Jews. That's what they've done.

• 2:00:23Patrick Bet-David?

  And now, what are you, what do you believe in? Are you a Christian or are you a Jew? What would you say? Do you believe in God?

• 2:00:28Speaker 03

  Yeah, I'm a Christian.

• 2:00:29Patrick Bet-David?

  You're a Christian?

• 2:00:29Speaker 03

  I'm a Christian, yeah. I, I've been pushed more, so I used to say that I didn't believe, my mum was a Catholic, brought up. But then, as I've seen the attacks on Christianity, and I've also seen the decay in British society. And the, the fall of Britain has come from the fall of belief. We have allowed, since we've stopped believing, and what built Great Britain? Christianity. What built everything about us, everything about our nation that everyone wants to come to it and make it a success, was built on Christianity. Since that's descended, since it's been coming under attack, since people have left it, it's left a void. And that void's been filled. And if we want to understand and remember who we are, as part of our identity, I say to some people, even if you don't believe in Christianity, you don't have to believe in Jesus, that's what built us as a nation.

• 2:01:12Speaker 03

  That, that must be protected. That's part of our identity. But when it comes to the whole, the Israel and Jew things, I think Qatar, if you look at Qatar, Qatar spent nearly three quarters of a billion pound in funding Islamic organisations across Europe. Radical, radical jihadist mindset. Qatar are behind it. They've been allowed to buy every port in our country. They, they own half of, half of London. Our politicians have sold their souls to Qatar, yeah? And Qatar come in. Now, what Qatar used to do, and these, these countries used to, they used to fund little charities, Islamic charities, and they'd fund them to be on the streets calling for Dawa. But all that's gone. What is influential now? Influencers, okay? Sneko. I watched Sneko convert to Islam, yeah?

• 2:01:56Speaker 03

  I don't know why he's converted to Islam, he's gay. So he's converted to Islam.

• 2:02:00Speaker 07

  Sneko's gay.

• 2:02:00Speaker 03

  Well, I've watched the video from him saying, well, I wasn't sure if I was gay or not, yeah? If you're not sure if you're gay or not, Sneko, you're gay, yeah? It's very simple, okay? That's what, his words, not mine, so I'm, I'm just going by his words, yeah? But I watched Sneko, and then he converts to Islam because it become trendy. Remember, people like us telling the truth about Islam, we were attacked and silenced. And then Islam comes in with all this money and it becomes very trendy, yeah? And it becomes trendy because all the money's coming and funding it. Now, Sneko converts and then he goes and makes some video in Saudi Arabia, very well-produced video. He's drawing the American youth. You need to wake up in America, yeah? The same with Andrew Tate, okay? These people, in my view, so many of the people, I see these TikTokers now after, after October 7th, yeah?

• 2:02:42Speaker 03

  Some, I saw a black TikToker in America and she's got the Quran and I've just decided to pick up the Quran and start reading it. I think, oh, fuck off, how much have you been paid for that? Yeah? So to get the influence with the next generation of youth, it, do you know how many people converted to Islam when Andrew Tate converted to Islam? Do you know how many come out of, out of prison holding the Quran? Do you know all these things? In my, in my view, like this is, in my view, there's Matt, and especially with Sneko. If you want to pick up the Quran, pick up my Quran, it explains exactly how, how it is rather than theirs. But. All of these people, the way they now reach the public, as in, there are billions of pounds to be spent in order to convert people to Islam. In my, in my town centre, there's a shop called Discover Islam. Yeah, it's a shop that's funded.

• 2:03:27Speaker 03

  Its sole purpose is to convert non Muslims to Islam. And that's in every town, city across the UK. There's a mass, and they work with the council. So if America do not wake up to the power and the influence coming in from the money from Saudi Arabia, they're going to convert your youth. And when they convert your youth through the prison system or on the streets, they're going to turn them so quickly and so fast against America and against your own culture and against Christianity and against the Jews. And so the whole Jew hatred thing has become fashionable. Do you know what's not fashionable?

• 2:03:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Hmm.

• 2:03:56Speaker 03

  I get so much criticism, I think, I don't get any benefit from it. I'm just speaking the truth. I, when I grew up in Lewin, the Islamic Jihadist Centre is the old synagogue. Okay. I have seen so much Jew hatred in my hometown. I remember there was a young family remembering the Holocaust. And it was on the anniversary of, they were having some date and, and all the jihadists turned up and the young family had to lock themselves inside the town hall. I don't know any Jewish gangs selling heroin. I don't know any Jewish rape gangs raping their way through our country. I don't know any bad Jews. I know Islamic out of control jihadists, criminals, terrorising our nation from one end of it the other. And somehow they want to blame that on the Jews as well. So.

• 2:04:39Speaker 03

  Dan is going for his next money shot, if you ask me, Dan Blis, or Jan, whatever his name is like. He's going for the next, he knows it's, if you look at how many likes he gets from being against the Jews, blaming everything on the Jews. And you have a very, in America, it's more mainstream, but it's becoming mainstream in the UK as well. There's so many now, if I was Jewish, I'd be worried, really worried. I'd be really, really worried. So, of what's, of what's happening. Across France, you know, I done a video.

• 2:05:04Patrick Bet-David?

  I saw a video, I saw a video of Sneakaw. If I'm, if I'm not mistaken, if I'm, if I'm wrong, you know, discard it. We'll leave it, I'm not saying edit it. But I, I thought I saw a clip that Sneakaw was tired of the way of being a Muslim himself. I may be wrong, Rob, if you can look.

• 2:05:21Speaker 03

  And he was having a go, because Pete, they're always stressing him how he has to live his life, yeah? Because he doesn't believe any of it, it's all bullshit.

• 2:05:26Patrick Bet-David?

  What do you think Tate's reasoning is? Because the, you know, you've known Tate, you know, for his brother stays being a Christian. But Tate leaves when he goes to jail and he says, the people that wrote me letters were Muslims, but not a single Christian person wrote me a letter when I was Muslim. Have you spoken to him about it or no?

• 2:05:42Speaker 03

  So I believe Christian, Christian leadership has failed us. But I believe there's a revival happening right now in Great Britain. I'm gonna make a mini documentary on it. Something's happening. Something big is happening. We went to our demonstration, a hundred thousand people. And there was a lad and he had Christ's King banner and the whole place was erupted. And then I looked at a hundred thousand people chanting Christ is King in the middle of Trafalgar Square. This is unthinkable, unseen. Something's happening. When you have your loss of identity, loss of culture and you feel at fret, people are looking back to where it's come from. Churches, but the church leadership are traitors to us in many of them. We need masculine Christianity. I think with Andrew Tate, he's a chess player. And I think that when he was, when he was deplatformed, I'd love to have a discussion with Andrew Tate personally on it.

• 2:06:26Speaker 03

  We're gonna disagree on a lot, me and Andrew Tate. We go back years, but we're gonna disagree on a lot. Because I think that when Andrew Tate, he made a comment that he didn't realise the influence he had when he, when he used to make videos. And this is when he got deplatformed. And if he could do it again, he maybe think more careful about what he's saying. Yet there he is telling people and drawing people to Islam. Now, if Andrew Tate now decided he didn't believe in Islam, he didn't believe a word of it. He can't even come out and say it. They'll kill him. He can't become the most famous apostate in the world, he'll be dead. They want him more than they want me.

• 2:07:01Patrick Bet-David?

  You think they'd kill him?

• 2:07:02Speaker 03

  A hundred percent. He'd be the biggest target. If he come out now and said Islam's a load of nonsense.

• 2:07:06Patrick Bet-David?

  How come you haven't done anything to it? You were in jail and you were, you were having eighty calls a day, four hours on the phone. You're doing all the stuff that you're doing while you're at jail. But there was a guy, there was a lifer that was trying to put a hit on you to take you out. And you were there, you know, seven months. How come that didn't happen? A guy like you, as vocal as you are, how are you still around?

• 2:07:25Speaker 03

  So I was, I spent my entire seven months in solitary confinement. I didn't, I went into Woodhill Prison and left without seeing another prisoner. I was on my own.

• 2:07:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Seven months, you went in, you didn't see a single person?

• 2:07:34Speaker 03

  I was on my own, totally, on my own. I don't want a lad to see anyone. When they brought me in.

• 2:07:39Patrick Bet-David?

  But you know the article that I read that says a lifer was gonna take you out?

• 2:07:42Speaker 03

  So, no, yeah, so the prison used, so the prison used that life, I would be dead with it, if I was put into the normal prison population in Woodhill. Woodhill was a forty percent Muslim population. They beheaded someone. Muslims beheaded.

• 2:07:54Patrick Bet-David?

  In jail?

• 2:07:55Speaker 03

  In jail. Took his head off. Took his head off. Do you know how they got his head off? They stamped him up and then they held him on a yard and then they used bed sheets.

• 2:08:04Speaker 03

  To get his head off. That's happening in prison. I don't think anyone understands what's happening. Do you know how the prisons run now in the UK? Thirty, say in the prison, Muslims control everything, yeah? So all the, everyone's converting to Islam, everyone's converting. All the British criminals, all the blacks, all the whites, everyone just converts. Because you're safe if you convert, because you become one of the biggest gang. And then they run everything. And if a prison officer steps out of line with Muslims in jail, they put a hit on him. So then the prison officers are scared and fearful, they're getting stabbed, um, they're getting attacked. You saw recently, you know, so basically, I come into Woodhill Prison for a civil offence. For a civil offence, you go home. You don't get eighteen months in prison, then get transferred to a maximum security jail. And then they used the threat against me to put me on, put me on solitary confinement. Do you know what solitary confinement does?

• 2:08:50Speaker 03

  I've come out seven, I've come out ten days ago. And the last time I come out, I come out ten days ago, I don't feel great, yeah? I've soldiered, I've gone straight back into what I'm doing, walking around like that, on edge, edgy, feeling weird. Feeling everything and they, we have a thing in the UK called the Mandela Rule from the Europe, from the United Nations, I think, or EU. The Mandela Rule was only allowed to spend fourteen days in isolation. Because of the negative mental health impact that that has, yeah? After fourteen days, it has to go to the government. So who was signing off holding me in solitary confinement for seven months? It was the government. Every forty-two days, I had to write my response to the government. Because I get an opportunity to write. So what I wrote in my response is, you're mentally going to break me, to try to destroy me.

• 2:09:34Speaker 03

  And I, and I could see it, you know, after a few weeks, it's probably about eight weeks it took. After eight weeks, I felt it. I, I could, I'm ready to blow like that I was in my prison cell. And over anything, over a phone call. I'm worrying, panicking about my kids, about my family, I'm panicking about everything. And then I'm waiting, say, I'd wait all day, my phone would turn on at six o'clock, and they just don't turn the phone on. So all these little things that can happen, there was no need for it. So I, I fill out a form every forty-two days. Which then is stamped by the government because the prison can't do it. Because of the adverse effect, I sat down with a psychologist in the first two weeks. I said, you're the expert, what's nine months of solitary confinement going to do to me? She said, it's going to be devastating. So I said, why are you doing it? How are you doing it? I played a film.

• 2:10:14Speaker 03

  I'm panicked during it. And I'm panicking because the last time I'll come out of solitary confinement, I've done, the last.

• 2:10:20Patrick Bet-David?

  It probably saved your life though.

• 2:10:22Speaker 03

  Yeah, but. They didn't have to put me in that jail. They put me in a maximum, that jail I was in, everyone's a murderer. Everyone's a terrorist. I'm in the maximum security prison facilities.

• 2:10:30Patrick Bet-David?

  What was the place like when you were in jail?

• 2:10:32Speaker 03

  So when they brought me in.

• 2:10:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Like the room, how small of a room is it?

• 2:10:35Speaker 03

  So segregation is where they put me. So there's a segregation unit. There's sixteen cells here, sixteen cells here. So if you stab someone in jail, or murder, or kill someone, or anything like that, you go to segregation, you know, as a punishment. Segregation is not like a normal cell, it's basic, it just has a blue mat, yeah? You have your blue mat and you have the basic facilities because you can't smash anything. So your chair can't be a normal chair because you could break the leg off it. Because nothing can be breakable, yeah? So you go to segregation. When they brought me in, they moved everyone out of this side. So they put me in a cell on my own, sixteen cells.

• 2:11:06Patrick Bet-David?

  They can't see you.

• 2:11:07Speaker 03

  No, no, there's just me. There's no other prisoners there. Just me, sixteen cells. I'd then go out onto an exercise yard.

• 2:11:13Patrick Bet-David?

  No, what I'm saying is cells, no bars. This is closed. This is.

• 2:11:15Speaker 03

  No clothes.

• 2:11:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Doors, nobody can see anything you do. They bring the food from the bottom or?

• 2:11:19Speaker 03

  They open your door, pass you food. So, but then, because I was a civil prisoner, they had, they had to allow me out, yeah? Which said, walk me from my cell at half eight in the morning. I'd walk through twenty-two doors, twenty-two locked doors, round the back, and they'd bring me to the jihadist unit. So within the prison system, they built special prisons within the prison to tackle the jihadists. And there's one at Wood Hill because it's a maximum security facility. So they bring me to the jihadist unit, and they put me on the yard for thirty minutes on my own. So they'd lock me on the yard, I'd walk round for thirty minutes.

• 2:11:50Speaker 03

  Then they'd bring me in, and there'd be a small room, which would have an exercise bike and a running machine, and they'd put me in there for two hours. Now, this unit that was built for the jihadists is the best, yeah? This is where the terrorists go, right? So I looked in, I looked in the cells, it's like a hotel room. They're like a hotel room. They've got everything. Now, these are built for the jihadists. They're not like normal prison cells. They've got the best of everything. So I then argued, because I was eating tin food, yeah? I then argued, why can't I stay on that, if that's empty, because it was empty? Why can't I stay on there? And they wouldn't let me stay on there. In the cooking facilities, they have big fridge freezers, cookers. They have all the facilities to cook for themselves. Now, five months into that prison sentence, I'm using that facility on my own. So I'm just on my own.

• 2:12:35Speaker 03

  I get locked there on my own, spend two hours and they walk me back to my cell. I'll be back in my cell by half eleven. They'd lock the door, the next morning they'd open the door again, you know, half eight. So for twenty one hours, I'm sitting on my blue mat. Yeah. So that's what I've gone from doing, sitting on that. But even when I'm out for the two and a half, three hours, I'm on my own. So I'm on my own, then I'm on my own. And I'm worried about this. And the reason I'm worried, because when I come out of jail in two thousand nineteen, I struggled massively. I struggled, man. And I said, I went into jail, one person come out another. So I was panicking, thinking, I know how hard I'm going to be to adjust when I get out. I'm worried about it. And what's my crime? I haven't even committed a crime. My offence to play in the film is civil. So I'm on solitary confinement.

• 2:13:19Speaker 03

  Axel Rudolph Kibana, you know, the man who done the stabbing attack in Southport? He's not in solitary confinement. He's got a job in it. He's up on the wing. When I got transferred first to jail, I landed in Belmarsh. I was in this little unit for myself. He was up above. He was up above. So he's not in solitary confinement. He just attacked a prison officer with a hot boiling war full of kettle.

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• 2:14:38Speaker 03

  But when I, five months into my sentence, Salman Abadi was the terrorist who attacked us, the... Um, the Ariana Grande concert, blown up twenty five people in Manchester. So his brother, they're all in a unit in Franklin Prison, seven of them. And he stabbed three police officers in a terrorist attack, two months ago. How do you make a life? He's out with seven other prisoners. I'm sitting there thinking, I'm on solitary confinement. I'm currently the only prisoner in the UK system, because they're not allowed to. So they have to let you have human interaction with other prisoners. But the government, I was prosecuted, not by the police, but government prosecuted me, the Attorney General. Which is why people say it's political. It was political, the government prosecuted me. The government signed off every forty two days.

• 2:15:22Speaker 03

  So every four, and I probably don't help myself, every forty two days, I write a response saying, this is what you're doing. This is meant to be your last resort. You shouldn't be doing this. I should be at home on homes. Criminal prisoners are given half time, then they're allowed home on, uh, home detention curfew. They wouldn't allow any of that from me. I had to sit the whole time on solitary confinement. And last week, before I got out, I got my last form to fill out because I'd hit another forty two days. And it goes to, um, it goes to Shabina Mahmood, who's the prison justice minister for the Labour government. And in that, I wrote my last final response, which was free in a week. My next documentary, you know, this, this one I'm working on, work on now. Labour's Islamic rape gangs is coming and there's nothing you can do to stop it.

• 2:16:07Speaker 03

  So, and I sat there, that's what's going then back to Labour government. So that was my response back. So I'm sitting there thinking, they're going to get this letter and they're going to, they should be worried. Yeah. Because I know, I know what I'm going to show the public. You see everyone, like, I know what I showed you with Panorama. Panorama was the film that tried to expose me. I called my documentary Panodrama. That should be mainstream TV around the world. Americans need to watch that. I've never seen Panorama or heard about it. No, because you weren't allowed to, because it was shut down. They, they, they put me back in prison. They shut me off every social media response to it. Watch that documentary, it's the best exposure you'll ever watch. I'm not just saying it because it's my work, yeah? Then I done Rape of Britain five part series. Then I done Hope Not Hate. I showed how Hope Not Hate NGO organisations will be working in the United States. They will be creating sources of information, they'll be blackmailing people, they'll be funding people.

• 2:16:52Speaker 03

  Then the media will use what they say, they will pump it to the global audience to discredit, give, um, slander and attack. So that's what I showed. My next documentary, I'm going to show that not just you, the question you asked me. Why? Why did they let it happen? I'm gonna show you why did it happen. I'm gonna go through the towns and cities where this happened. I'm gonna show you Labour's involvement. The Labour Party, our government, the Democratic Party. As I said, in Rochdale, the councillor went to court and he gave a character reference for the rapist. He didn't lose his job. In Oldham, the man whose job it was to protect kids for Labour, he's in jail as one of the rapists. In Rotherham, the councillor was part of the gangs. In all of these cities, Labour in bed. And do you know what's happened? Anyone who spoke out has been discredited, attacked and lost their job.

• 2:17:36Speaker 03

  Sarah Champion was a politician in Rotherham. She spoke out against these gangs. She lost her job. They got rid of her. They replaced her with Nas Shah, Muslim politician. Nas Shah is on record as sharing a message that said, victims of these grooming gangs need to shut their mouths for the sake of diversity. She was promoted and took the job of Sarah Champion as the Women's Minister for the Labour Government. They have hid this at a level coming from the highest. So you imagine if you had a real independent inquiry in our country, who's got dirty hands? Well, they're all at the top now. The man who was in charge of Rotherham, remember, they come and raided me in the early days and stopped me going to demonstrations. The police officer who was in charge, 2006, 2010, the biggest rape scandal in our country, he's now in charge of counter-terrorism.

• 2:18:22Speaker 03

  I'm facing a counter-terrorism trial on October 13th. I was detained under counter-terrorism on the 28th of July last year. I was stopped at the border, leaving the country. Article seven of the Terrorism Act.

• 2:18:33Speaker 03

  They passed these laws, which means you don't have a right to remain silent and you have to give them your passcode. So if you're detained under terrorism legislation in an airport in the UK or a port, it's the only places they can do it. So they stopped me. Do you know what their words were? We know you're not involved in terrorism, Tommy. We know, yeah? But this gives us power to do this. They interviewed me for six hours. I have no right to remain silent. So what they asked me was everything to do with my legitimate work. Who are you working with? Who's helping you? What are you organising? Do you know what they said? The Great Replacement. They said, how are you gonna stop the Great Replacement? They thought it was a conspiracy. How are you... So this is... And I've got the interview. So I now face prosecution in prison. So when they get to my phone, they say, give us your password for your phone.

• 2:19:18Speaker 03

  I said, not a chance, because I'm a journalist. So my sources of information, everything I'm working on, I've just told you the documentary I'm working on. In that documentary, I will expose Labour politicians who were involved in raping kids. Yeah, they know that they want to know what I've got, how I've got it. So they come in, I'm a journalist, you don't have a right to know my source of information. They prosecuted me, they arrested me, seized my phone. Now I face prison for, not for any crime, they weren't searching for a crime. This is, you talk about freedom, there is no freedom. I'm a journalist, I'm detained under terrorism legislation, no right to remain silent, have to give them my password. Because I refused to give my password, I now face prison. And who's in charge of it?

• 2:19:58Speaker 03

  The same police officer who was, who was in charge of the Rotherham scandal, who has dirty hands. They've all got, Keir Starmer's got dirty hands, the head of the government have got dirty hands. All of them conspired to hide the rape of a generation of our daughters and slavery, murder, torture. They handed over our children and they, and I, I've met the parents. I don't think anyone can quite, you know, anyone can quite understand the scale of this rape scandal. This will be viewed as the darkest stain on British history. Is it easier to tackle them or get rid of me? And, and they've attacked me and sladdering, defaming me, they've used headlines, media weapons. When the riots kicked off, so October 27th, we hold a hundred thousand people. Do you know what hurts them?

• 2:20:39Speaker 03

  We've now got our own social media, people are watching, we had a million people watching live on X, yeah? We're having a celebration of identity. We, we don't allow masks to be worn, we, we know how they infiltrate government. Look, there's an organisation called the Special Demonstration Squad. This was a British government organisation who go into peaceful demonstrations and kick off violence. Cause then they can discredit you, then they use the media to pump the images to portray who you are as a movement. We don't allow that, so we now hold our own demonstrations, we don't allow face coverings, we police ourselves. In these events, this would have put the fear of God into the British establishment. One hundred thousand people, it chanting Christ is King, eh? That would worry them, yeah? They've been trying to attack Christianity and anti-Christianity in our country.

• 2:21:20Speaker 03

  And, and one hundred thousand people peacefully, we've reached the public, families, do you know the diversity of our crowd? Bearing in mind, they've been trying to phrase us racist. The amount of minority, minority, um, blacks, Asians, Sikhs, Hindus, uh, church leaders who are now coming to our events. The day after that, I'm detained under terrorism legislation, the day after that. Then I'm prosecuted, now the riots kicked off in London, the riots kicked off. Three young children are butchered, people are angry. I've, I run the English Defence League. This is when we can go down and understand what's happening. It's like the whole Russia hoax. The riots kick off. I'm not in the country when the riots kick off because I've been detained. I'm now on the way to Spain. Riots kick off. I see the news headlines coming out of Southport. They're blaming it on the English Defence League.

• 2:22:05Speaker 03

  There is no English Defence League. I left the English Defence League in 2015. It was disbanded. This organisation has not existed for a decade. The government are blaming the English Defence League. The police are blaming the English Defence League. So I knew straight away then, they're landing that on my lap. Why are they landing it on my lap? Because if they wanted to understand why these people are angry, they're angry because the government failures. So they, they, they rioted in Southport because as a child, as, as children were murdered, the government tried to hide the reality of who it was. They didn't give the public the information which allowed rumour mill to spread. I never said anything on who done this. I never made any allegations of who it was. Yeah. As these riots kicked off, they then kicked off in a city called Hull.

• 2:22:47Speaker 03

  Now, what they don't want the public to know is that in Hull, a man in the hotel, migrants, we spent 15 billion pounds housing these migrants in hotels. They're coming into the country. The British can't afford to help, to, to feed. They can't afford heating. And yet the hotels were being filled with migrants. That, one of the migrants left the hotel in Hull and he went out in an act of jihad and he murdered a British pensioner for Palestine. Yeah. He killed someone screaming about Palestine. A terrorist in a hotel. If riots kicked off in Tamworth, if you're looking Tamworth, Mohammed left the hotel in Tamworth and raped an English woman. So as these riots spread across the country, they don't want anyone to understand why people are angry in those cities. So instead they blamed it on an ideology. They blamed it on the far right.

• 2:23:30Speaker 03

  Then in steps, the Daily Mail, I'm on holiday with my children. I'll show you this headline. I'm on holiday with my children. I've got nothing to do with the riots. I'm calling for peace the whole time. Every video I've done, I'm saying, stop the riots, stop the violence. They then, this is where they combine together. Silence showed the way the security services, the government, the media, they all work together to push their agenda and push their narrative. So instead the Daily Mail, I'm on holiday with my kids. I'm laying on holiday with my kids. This front page story comes out, and this is the Daily Mail, yeah? This is them, the press awards. Tommy Robinson on holiday. Our photograph of Tommy Robinson stoking the flames of the post-Southport race riots

• 2:24:12Speaker 03

  from the safety of a Cypriot sunbed became one of the defining images of this summer's disorder. The defining image of this summer's disorder become me on the sunbed. Not the riots, not Axel Rudiger Manna, yeah? The media made me the scapegoat. I had nothing to do with the riots. But they run a headline that said I was instigating the riots. That headline was picked up by the rest of the world's media, and then they pumped it to the entire globe. The knock, I've just done a documentary that's gone out now to show what happened. When the journalist done this, this is the video, yeah? So they run this headline, they tracked me down, they gave the location of where I was, bearing in mind the threats of my family. They shared an images of innocent family members in a national newspaper. Then Muslims started making videos, telling people to go to the hotel. Muslims made videos with machine guns. Muslims made their threats.

• 2:24:57Speaker 03

  My mum and dad had to be relocated. They blamed me for the entire summer disorder, and I had nothing to do with it. And then do you know what I done? Well then, the Daily Mail journalists had done that. I turned the cameras on them. I'm a journalist. I tracked down where they were. I told, I messaged them saying, hey, I'm finding you with my cameras. I'm gonna ask you some questions. They've prosecuted me. When I was in jail now, and the police, I, I won a, I got 18 months in prison. We won a case, and they said they had to release me. So we find out I'm getting released. The next day, the Metropolitan Police Force come into my cell the next day, and said you're in court on the 5th of June. And they slapped me on more charges. My charges are that I caused fear of violence to these journalists.

• 2:25:41Speaker 03

  My messages told them I'm coming to ask them questions. So the protectist globalist media are not allowed to be questioned.

• 2:25:47Patrick Bet-David?

  And Daily Mail is a conservative. Some people wouldn't, it's not a, they're definitely a lot of leftists. They were supportive of Brexit.

• 2:25:53Speaker 03

  They're controlled, they're controlled media. It doesn't matter if they're conservative.

• 2:25:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me ask this question. Can you, I was just searching right now, can, can Tommy Robinson run for political office?

• 2:26:03Speaker 03

  Uh, Tommy Robinson could run for political.

• 2:26:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Why don't you?

• 2:26:07Speaker 03

  Why don't I? I believe that I have more power as a journalist. I believe that, see.

• 2:26:13Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't know about that, because if.

• 2:26:15Speaker 03

  At the minute.

• 2:26:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, well, I mean, uh, uh, who is the biggest name in your country that was a journalist? That eventually went and, you know, ran and was hated by Chamberlain and all these other guys? Because he had brass balls and he was feared by a lot of different people. Who is that guy? And we know who we're talking about, right? Churchill was a former journalist for many years. But i- if you're telling me there isn't anybody in the parliament that's going out there being vocal. I'm in Brazil a couple of months ago, okay? And do you know who Nicolas Feheria is in Brazil? Have you heard of this guy? Nicolas Feheria, the young guy, the 28-year-old superstar?

• 2:26:52Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah.

• 2:26:53Patrick Bet-David?

  So this guy right here, Nicolas Feheria, right? There, uh, uh, Brazil is another shitty situation. They have a guy named Alexandre de Moraes. He's the dictator. He's the Supreme Court guy that if you see his face, you will know who he is. Yeah. This guy has gone into office, not him, he's a Supreme Court guy. Nicolas got into office through using social media. He has become the most popular voice in all of Brazil, to the point where I'm in Brazil with them, in Brasilia. We're walking around, he can't go anywhere. Everyone is stopping him. He posted a video this year on Instagram, I think it was in January or something like that. Do you know how many likes the video got? Not views, likes.

• 2:27:36Patrick Bet-David?

  9.8 million likes. I think the video got a billion and a half. I'm sorry, 9 million likes, 900,000 comments. Rob, can you see how many views it got? How many views did it get? Just go on the, uh, if you click on the like.

• 2:27:49Speaker 03

  That is why they want to crush social media.

• 2:27:52Patrick Bet-David?

  They do, but if you go on the likes, it'll show you the video right there. If you, uh, no, not right there, Rob. Whatever you were going before. If you, if you, um, Kelly, if you can check to see how many views this thing got on his account. What's the point? Everybody fears him because they see him being able to run for office and be the president of Brazil in 2036. So if you legally can run, according to the law, if you can legally run, and if you don't get in to create enemies, people like you now, by the way, someone's gonna say, I cannot believe Patrick Bedavid wants a far-right extremist who's a racist Islamophobia to go run for office. No, I mean, if you're seeing the issues that's happening in UK. And people are looking the other way because they're scared and you're not getting involved in politics?

• 2:28:36Speaker 03

  My, my thing is.

• 2:28:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Or getting behind someone that's willing to do it.

• 2:28:40Speaker 03

  Yeah, I don't think I'd be alive. Um, so the way I operate, the way I live for the last three years is I hide. That's the only way I've been able to. I've been in foreign countries. I fly back into the UK. I do my work and I get the hell out because I'm not safe.

• 2:28:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Is your family over there?

• 2:28:54Speaker 03

  Um, they're over there, but there've many times I've flown them out and moved them, moved. My family have lived in eight different properties in eight years. That's what they did. Yeah. Every time I had to be moved, do you know who tracked them down each time? Home not hate. The, the government groups, they expose them. They, you'll see, you saw it in silence. So I don't believe my family is safe. Well, I know they're not safe. I don't believe I'm safe, but I have important work to do. I believe the fight is in the UK and I believe that I hoped, you see with reform. Do you know there's not one politician since Churchill, since what, Sir William Gladstone? There's not one single politician that's mentioned Islam in, in House Parliament. We've had, how many jihad attacks? How many terrorist attacks?

• 2:29:36Speaker 03

  Not one single person's had a discussion on Islam. No, no one's even allowed to talk about Islam. At a five, six percent Muslim population because of the shutting down and the silencing, the criticism. In America, you've still got people who are willing to talk. I've always looked at America and thought they're still brave people who can have the discussion. And it's this discussion that has to be had. It has to be had unless you're willing to. There's a thousand years of English history, you're just gonna give it away. Christian English history, it's gonna be gone. I think Americans, you need to come and look at what London looks like now. You need to come and look at our cities. They're gone. They're never coming back. Paris is not French. It's gone. The beautiful city of romance that you think you, that you think about, it's not there anymore. And it's only, and it's not there, it's gone. And, and we're not even allowed to talk about it.

• 2:30:21Speaker 03

  And then when you try, do try and talk about far right racists, extremists, Islam, all this nonsense, that power has gone. The monopoly they had has gone and it's only gone.

• 2:30:30Patrick Bet-David?

  I agree. Yeah, I, I agree. I'm with you. That's why I'm saying if, if your plan.

• 2:30:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Is, for example, a guy like you, you've chosen to live this life. This is not a good life. It's not an appealing life. You can't sell this life to somebody else. You can't say, go live this life. You know, it's tough to stay married if you wanna, you know, you're three kids, you're not seeing them. What father doesn't wanna see their kids? What father doesn't wanna see their wife? What father doesn't wanna, you know, have, talking to mom and dad, hey, you guys gotta move out of the house because someone's coming knocking on your door, something could happen to you. This is not a life that one can sell the dream. But if you've chosen to live this life since oh four, and you're a crusader of this message that you're doing, the biggest thing when people say, you know, you're Islamophobic or you're racist or any of that stuff, it's not about that. My interpretation of how I receive you is,

• 2:31:21Patrick Bet-David?

  look, if you come to my city, and I have neighbors, and if I go into a city and it's run by Scientologists, and the city gets better, I don't care what your religion is. If you come into a city and you're Jehovah, and the economy does better, you create jobs, safer, you guys take care of your kids, you guys, I'm good with that. But the whole point is, if you're coming into a city and you bring in ruckus, chaos, crime, and you want us to adjust to you, you came to us. I didn't come to America trying to change America to my leanings. I came to America because America offered me what life I wanted. That's why I'm in America. I'm not in America to say, well, we gotta go back and do the way Iran did it. No, then go back to Iran.

• 2:32:04Patrick Bet-David?

  If you think that is such the right way and the right way to live, go there. But for a guy like you that's this level of a true believer,

• 2:32:15Patrick Bet-David?

  I think you may need to either consider that. I'm sure people have already brought it up to you. Because, you know, and if you consider it's a point of no return. Because I asked you multiple times, what do you do? You said, I'm this guy, I'm this, I'm this, I'm this. What's the solution? The one thing a lot of people don't wanna talk about, Charter Crook tweeted something, uh, three days ago. And his tweet was, uh, Muslim Islam is not compatible with Western ideology, or something like that. What does he say? Islam is not compatible with Western civilization. He posted it, sixty-six million views.

• 2:32:49Speaker 03

  Well, the European Court of Human Rights, I said in two thousand and seven, I think, that Sharia is incompatible with, uh, Western civilization.

• 2:32:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Now, look what your friend dances on the bottom.

• 2:33:00Speaker 03

  I completely disagree. Yeah, of course, because it's getting paid by Iran. Of course, he's gonna.

• 2:33:04Patrick Bet-David?

  See, here's the thing.

• 2:33:05Speaker 03

  He sees his future.

• 2:33:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Here's where I'm at. I don't think he's getting paid by Iran, and I don't think.

• 2:33:09Speaker 03

  He's just thinking.

• 2:33:10Patrick Bet-David?

  No, I don't think he's getting paid by Iran. I don't think you're getting paid by uh uh Israel. I think his reasoning is completely different. But to me, at this age, look at the city. I've lived a lot of different places. I don't have one bad experience with somebody that's Jewish. They're always gonna make money. They're very tight with their money. You can criticize them for all that stuff on how they are. But when they get into societies and places, it gets better. Yes, they want control. Yes, they want influence. Yes, they want power. Yes, they want all that stuff. Criticize them for that. But when it comes down to this, and we're seeing if it's compatible or not, a message like this. There is a lot of.

• 2:33:49Speaker 03

  Do you know how good that is that Charlie Cook's done there?

• 2:33:51Patrick Bet-David?

  But let me tell you, but but but. We need to fly back, so I gotta go take my family to dinner tonight. But when I, when you look at this, you know what this really says, though? That this says one thing. It says the Constitution has a challenge and a flaw in it in the US. Because what is a freedom of speech, freedom of assembly, freedom of religion?

• 2:34:14Speaker 03

  Islam's, that's if you recognize it as a religion. It's an ideology. It's not just a religion.

• 2:34:18Patrick Bet-David?

  China said it's a mental illness. You know, I don't know if you saw that or not. There were stories about uh some countries that talk about Islam is is a. It's not a religion.

• 2:34:27Speaker 03

  The last thing is, it's a complete way of life. It's a complete way of life, and it's a danger to the West, a total danger. And that doesn't mean that, that doesn't mean that individual Muslims, I I try and separate Muslims from Islam, because most Muslims don't follow the scripture to the word. But the scriptures of the word is gonna bring big problems. I think four times as many British Muslims joined ISIS and fought for the British military. Forty thousand British Muslims on a terror watch list. Forty thousand. These aren't small numbers. If you look at the numbers of Muslims that want Sharia law, if you look at their views, it's massively problematic. And we're just sitting there waiting for it to get so big and so bad that it's irreversible. And it's it's only gonna take brave people like that talking out, speaking up. Brave people speaking up and educating. I think most Muslims are naive of the agenda of Islam. Many of the, because many Muslims treat their religion like a buffet. They take the good bits and they.

• 2:35:11Patrick Bet-David?

  I agree. I agree. I had an assistant of mine that was uh like right now, a couple of my favorite people in the company. I like to go to dinner, have conversations with them. They're Muslim, but they're. Nice people, family, good, you know, all that's my assistant. It was nine months was my assistant. One of the funniest guys in the world. He was Muslim, and we sit there and talk about it. Probably the sweetest assistant I ever had. He was the sweetest guy. You know some guys who can use the word sweet?

• 2:35:35Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah.

• 2:35:36Patrick Bet-David?

  You very, very rarely use the word sweet with a guy. This guy was a sweet guy. Now, he was a surfer, was a regular guy. He wasn't deep into it to know what's going on. But to me, when you see things like this taking place, Charlie tweets something like that, more and more people are starting to talk about this. And you see a guy like you that just got out ten days ago, we're sitting here having a conversation, a place like UK. I would, I would only encourage you to consider what it would look like if you did get involved, because the reality of it is, history can't be written without UK having influence in a major part of world history. You can't go to study world history without reading a bunch about the influence of what, you know, UK did. Good, bad, ugly, but it's part of history. We all got it, right?

• 2:36:21Patrick Bet-David?

  So to me, you know, when someone's a true believer like you, from the moment you walked in, you were on the edge. The moment you walked in, you know, it's like, it's not like this is an act. Twenty-five years old, you're sitting there with that one journalist, whatever the guy's name is, you going back and forth. You've been like this and so forth with your niece, you know, your second cousin, thirteen years old. But it's, it's great having a conversation with you right now. I'm glad we were able to make this work. We're gonna put the link to the book, Enema the State, that they can get now on Amazon as well. And all the books, right?

• 2:36:53Speaker 03

  Are on trbooks.co.uk.

• 2:36:55Patrick Bet-David?

  TR book.

• 2:36:56Speaker 03

  TRbooks.co.uk and the books. And the new, the new, and TR Films, that'll be up by the time this goes out. TRfilms.co.uk will be on my documentaries.

• 2:37:06Patrick Bet-David?

  TRfilms.com?

• 2:37:08Speaker 03

  .co.uk

• 2:37:09Patrick Bet-David?

  .co.uk

• 2:37:11Speaker 03

  And the thing is, for anyone watching,

• 2:37:13Patrick Bet-David?

  The link will arrive in the chat, so they have it as well, in the description and comment section.

• 2:37:18Speaker 03

  Whilst everything's so negative, I've also never felt so positive. The public are ready. Our country's ready. I was talking about this fifteen years ago, people didn't want to listen. People weren't listening. And I've watched all the other countries have their populist uprising. I've watched, it started with Brazil, it started with India and Modi. Then I watched Trump, then I'm watching all these European nations, I think it's coming, it's got, it has to come. And the public are awake now more than ever. But we need, as you said, I always thought if we can change the culture, you change the politics. So we want to build a cultural movement based on identity, because we've lost our identity. It's gone.

• 2:37:50Patrick Bet-David?

  This is, this is the worst weapon ever for globalists and establishment. They hate this weapon. This right here exposed all of them. Before this came out twenty years ago.

• 2:38:02Speaker 03

  Total control.

• 2:38:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Total control. They hate this invention that came out. Hate it.

• 2:38:07Speaker 03

  That's why, yeah, after after Trump got elected, that's why they then they then took back control. They realized they took back control. So Nick Clegg was put in charge of Facebook. That was our old doc deputy prime minister. He's just been replaced, right, by Dana White? Um, Facebook, I I I'm still I'm still deleted from Facebook. I'm still deleted by all these socials. I've never done anything. I've never been tried by court. Totally censored. YouTube turned us back on last week, so we'll see how that goes. We'll see how that goes.

• 2:38:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, you keep doing what you're doing because guess what the audience can do? They can sit there, agree with you, disagree with you. But one thing they will definitely do is is that documentary out there? The BBC guys Sweden really get fired? Is that really happened? Let me go look at that video. They're gonna be forced to research on their own.

• 2:38:48Speaker 03

  And anyone watches this, if you follow me on my YouTube, it's Tommy Robinson online. And, um, yeah, I'm so grateful to Elon Musk for giving us back my my voice. I've obviously, yeah, because you know how you know how hard it is? You know, when you're trying to progress a message?

• 2:39:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Of course.

• 2:39:03Speaker 03

  And then you're censored.

• 2:39:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Of course.

• 2:39:04Speaker 03

  And you're doing the most important work you've ever done on the most important issue you ever done. My my five part series on the rape of Britain. And you're not reaching anyone with it.

• 2:39:10Patrick Bet-David?

  You have any thoughts on the Musk Trump thing or no?

• 2:39:13Speaker 03

  On the Musk Trump Trump thing?

• 2:39:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 2:39:14Speaker 03

  Um, I've been flying. I've come here. I'm not sure fully or or looked at everything.

• 2:39:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Got it.

• 2:39:21Speaker 03

  Do you know what I have? My thoughts are, the I know what it's like to feel under pressure. I know it feel it's like to feel under attack. They both have must have felt so much pressure and under attack. Everything that's gone on with Tesla, everything that's gone on with the attacks against Elon Musk. I look at both of them and think Donald Trump didn't have to step into the political arena. Donald Trump was a billionaire and he was loved by everyone. And he put himself in the firing line where he will forever be in that firing line. And he'd done that for the love of America. And then I look at Elon Musk and he stepped in and done the same. So I have an admires admiration for anyone who steps into that firing line when they simply didn't have to. So I hope for America, they sort that, everything's sorted out for them. I hope there's an awakening in America. People need to realize the issue of free speech and I'm hope one day I get to come and

• 2:40:06Speaker 03

  visit America.

• 2:40:07Patrick Bet-David?

  When you do, we will send an open invitation to come to the office and do another one live in Florida.

• 2:40:12Speaker 03

  Thanks very much.

• 2:40:12Patrick Bet-David?

  My man, this was great, appreciate you.

• 2:40:14Speaker 03

  Thanks.

• 2:40:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Thank you, anytime, thank you. Whether you agree with Tommy or not, guess what? You can now get ahold of him on Manect. He will respond back on Manect. You can simply download the app. He's officially on there. Ask him any question, you agree with him, you don't agree with him. An article, something you saw, but now you can get direct contact with Tommy Robinson on Manect.

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