Epstein–Prince Andrew SHOCKING Update, Trump HUMILIATES Carney, India v Pakistan | PBD Podcast | 584

Patrick Bet-David, Tom Ellsworth, Vincent Oshana, and Adam Sosnick cover the rising war tensions between India and Pakistan, a heated Oval Office moment between Donald Trump and Mark Carney, and new revelations from James O'Keefe about Prince Andrew and Jeffrey Epstein. ------ 🤵THE VT EXCLUSIVE COLLECTION: https://bit.ly/43hea6J 🪖VT ARMED FORCES COLLECTION: ⁠https://bit.ly/4iKR0dp⁠ https://bit.ly/4iKR0dp 🎁 MOTHER'S DAY COLLECTION: ⁠https://bit.ly/4lU4dDp⁠ https://bit.ly/4lU4dDp 🍋 ZEST IT FORWARD: ⁠https://bit.ly/4jYg3Lh⁠ https://bit.ly/4jYg3Lh 👕 THE LATEST VT MERCH: ⁠https://bit.ly/3BZbD6l⁠ https://bit.ly/3BZbD6l 📕 PBD'S BOOK "THE ACADEMY": ⁠https://bit.ly/41rtEV4⁠ https://bit.ly/41rtEV4 📰 VTNEWS. AI: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3OExClZ⁠ https://bit.ly/3OExClZ 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON SPOTIFY: ⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g57zR2⁠ https://bit.ly/4g57zR2 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ITUNES: ⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g1bXAh⁠ https://bit.ly/4g1bXAh 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ALL PLATFORMS: ⁠https://bit.ly/4eXQl6A⁠ https://bit.ly/4eXQl6A 📱 CONNECT ON MINNECT: ⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4ikyEkC⁠ https://bit.ly/4ikyEkC 👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: ⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3ZjWhB7⁠ https://bit.ly/3ZjWhB7 🎓 VALUETAINMENT UNIVERSITY: ⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3BfA5Qw⁠ https://bit.ly/3BfA5Qw 📺 JOIN THE CHANNEL: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g5C6Or⁠ https://bit.ly/4g5C6Or 💬 TEXT US: Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time! ABOUT US: Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.

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• 0:00Speaker 00

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• 0:35Speaker 01

  You've been trying to take down these games from the start.

• 0:37Speaker 02

  Filmed for IMAX.

• 0:38Speaker 01

  Make them remember you.

• 0:41Speaker 02

  The Hunger Games: Sunrise on the Weeping, November 20th, rated PG-13.

• 0:54Speaker 01

  Adam, what's your point? The future looks bright? Handshake is better than anything I ever signed, right here.

• 1:02Patrick Bet-David?

  You are a one of one?

• 1:03Speaker 01

  My son's right about that.

• 1:04Adam Sosnick?

  I don't think I've ever said this before.

• 1:11Adam Sosnick?

  It's almost like your mind's telling you no.

• 1:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, my body is telling me to do it. Yeah. So, gang, episode 584, lots going on. India, Pakistan getting uglier and uglier and uglier. Carney from Canada comes down and has a sit-down with the president. Should have been Pierre Poliev. Sure. This other guy that you ran for office that lost in the most embarrassing way ever. I don't know if you guys have followed that story at all. If you haven't, it's something that's been out there.

• 1:38Adam Sosnick?

  We haven't.

• 1:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. And then, at the same time today, apparently the president's going to be making a massive announcement at 10 a.m. If we catch it, we'll show it to you as well on the podcast in regards to a massive...

• 1:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Trade deal, New York Times leaked a story saying it's with us and Britain. We will see if that's what the story is all about. There's a few other stories that's out there as well that we will get into and discuss such as Trump announcing that, they leaked this, they're gonna be announcing that he no longer wants to call it the Persian Gulf. He wants to call it the Arabian Gulf, which by the way, for 2,500 years, it's been called the Persian Gulf. Let me say that again, for 2,500 years, it's been called the Persian Gulf. I have some thoughts on it and I have a clip I want to show you from the show back in the days when he was sitting down with Wallace. I think it was Mike Wallace, the OG, and then the son is Chris, but he sat down with Mike Wallace and that conversation took place.

• 2:34Patrick Bet-David?

  So that's something that's very important to Iranians, we'll talk about that. CNN's Harry Enton says Americans think Trump handling crime far better than Joe Biden. I mean, the fact that they even have to run a poll on that, it's slightly comical, but you know, they have to do what they have to do. Carney said Canada's not for sale and then Trump replies, never say never. Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney calls Trump transformational president and the president said, "Your victory may have been even bigger than mine." So they're very complimentary, but the deal, when the lady asked a question, said, "So, Mr. President, after the time that you're having with Prime Minister Carney here, would this meeting at all cause you to remove all the tariffs on Canada?" You know what his answer was within half a second? "No." He just says, "No."

• 3:19Patrick Bet-David?

  So we'll find out why that is, we have some thoughts on it. The Teamster boss praises Trump, "Foreign film tariff condemns Hollywood's un-American addiction to outsourcing." Newsom proposes to work with Trump to make America film again. Floats 7.5 federal tax credit. Why does the federal government have to give you the tax credit? Why don't you give it, Newsom, out of your state? Why have the government take care of you while every time you get money from your state, the money kind of disappears? And it's not invested properly, like the $24 billion you got from your taxpayers from homelessness. But we have some thoughts on that, obviously. Doug Burgum warns of real energy emergency that will permit China to dominate US.

• 3:57Patrick Bet-David?

  A lot to talk about with the India-Pakistan conflict that started on April 22nd with the Muslim terrorist organization that showed up and killed 26 of them. There's a video clip. of a guy who's on a zip line recording himself. Yeah. He doesn't know what's going on. They're killing the people on the ground. He gets the footage of people getting shot and killed. While he's zip lining through, maybe we'll show the clip. Here while we're going through it, Rob, I know you do have that clip as well. It's tragic what's going on there, but by the way, within days, you're gonna hear. People talking about free Pakistan. And you know, the same way they called the Maryland man. They're gonna say, you know, uh, you know. Freedom fighters, you know, they're gonna use phrases like this.

• 4:42Patrick Bet-David?

  So just wait, that's what BBC was doing themselves as well and using a different word, which maybe we'll get into. Moment Harvard president is confronted with evidence of liberal bias. Rob, do we have a video on that to show? Okay, fantastic. Ultra petty new California law tricking drivers into paying huge fines. Don't you just love when California comes with good policies? Oh. Creative policies on how to get money from taxpayers even more. You gotta tell them they're so creative on taxing people more. I might move there. And what I even love more is how honorable to people in California are that they love paying more taxes. Bring more. That that desire to be so giving in California and say. Tax me more, please. I love it. Give, give, give, never take. Taxes. Oh. Wonderful people of California that it's driving them insane, but.

• 5:27Patrick Bet-David?

  You have choices, folks. There's called 49 other states. You chose one of them. There's plenty of other great states.

• 5:34Patrick Bet-David?

  In America they can choose from. Um, this next one, Stephen A. Smith said he's glad that Trump won because Dems have played. Black Americans like suckers. And Vinnie loves that story. He just found all this out. Pete Heck said he's firing generals, by the way. A lot. One five star and four four star generals because those guys. When you become at that level, sometimes you're no longer a soldier, you're more like a politician. You are. Because the Congress, you know, it's a different kind of thing. AOC and Sanders fall flat. With young voters as Gen Z rejects weird radical wink. And by the way, Bernie Sanders, Vinnie told me about this video, apparently, I haven't seen this video. I'm gonna see it for the first time and react to it. He's being asked, why did you spend $200,000 on private jet? And apparently he says.

• 6:14Speaker 05

  Hold on.

• 6:17Speaker 05

  You expect me to stay in line, are united? What do you create? The more his hands go up, the more full of shit he is.

• 6:22Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't believe this. By the way, I don't believe this. Okay, you're gonna see it. Until I see it. I've not seen it until I see it. Until I see it. I saw it. Iran tests missiles. It claims can penetrate. What a word. U.S. and Israeli defenses. Okay? So, that's Iran. I mean, they're just playing tough guy right now. High school juniors with a $70,000 a year job offers, according to Wall Street Journal. Florida's COVID-era housing boom is over. Biggest decline in prices in more than a decade in Florida. Let's go, Vinny. Now's the time, baby. I'm a psychologist who studies couples. Not me, but this story. The number one phrase that breaks up relationships, it's more damaging than you think. By the way, brace for impact. Maybe watch that section of the episode without your spouse.

• 7:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Coming up, babe, don't watch today's podcast because I don't want to get into a fight with you. It's gonna lead to a fight. Maybe even 17 divorces. We don't want to take any responsibility for that. I'm the type of person, bring your spouse for this segment. Yeah. Bring your significant other. Bring your spouse at your own risk. It is what it is. And we got some stuff that's going on with Fed. Everybody wants to know who this John Bryan guy is, who claims Prince Andrew had sex with minors and openly talked about it. James O'Keefe dropped another one. Good for him. Pam Bondi dismisses claim Epstein's info is missing and defends delays in releasing files. Cash Patel erupts at Democratic lawmaker over Capitol right. You gotta see this one. You gotta see this one. It's epic. And then we got a few other things. There's a 17-second speech that Hexit gave that's phenomenal.

• 7:51Patrick Bet-David?

  And then some of the stuff that happened with Lady Gaga. Suspected terrorists accuse of planning to kill fans at Lady Gaga concert. ID'd as immigrant, recently deported from the U.S. You don't say. That's odd.

• 8:02Speaker 05

  How many congressmen are gonna fly there and try to bring him back? An angry illegal alien wants to mess up some people. Because you know I hate birthdays. You know, I hate birthdays, but I just told you.

• 8:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Don't do it. Don't do it. I don't want you to say it.

• 8:11Speaker 05

  No, what?

• 8:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Because is this who I was birthday it is?

• 8:13Speaker 05

  No, no, it's not a birthday.

• 8:14Patrick Bet-David?

  What?

• 8:14Speaker 05

  It's my birthday. Guess what today is?

• 8:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Who?

• 8:16Speaker 05

  Remember I told you May is dope?

• 8:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 8:17Speaker 05

  Today, May 8th, is my three-year anniversary.

• 8:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Get out of here.

• 8:20Speaker 05

  Let's go, baby.

• 8:21Patrick Bet-David?

  My man.

• 8:21Speaker 05

  Let's go.

• 8:22Patrick Bet-David?

  And by the way, today's also a guy named Tony. Is it really? It's Tony's birthday. Tony, if you're listening, Tony. Tony! Happy birthday. I know Tony's had an incredible last seven days, but it's Tony's birthday. Tony, we love you. Happy birthday to you, buddy. Hopefully, future looks bright. Tony's on vacation today.

• 8:37Adam Sosnick?

  And happy anniversary.

• 8:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Really? He'll be back tomorrow. Okay, fantastic. Good for you, Tony.

• 8:40Adam Sosnick?

  Happy anniversary, my friend.

• 8:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Tell all the ladies we said hello.

• 8:43Adam Sosnick?

  Three years of BT.

• 8:44Patrick Bet-David?

  All right.

• 8:44Adam Sosnick?

  When did he go to Vermont?

• 8:45Patrick Bet-David?

  So, guys, before we get into the podcast, this is the one thing we've been looking forward to announcing. For those who are insiders with us that participate with Medibid Consulting and some other things that you do, you always will get access to merch that's coming out before everybody else. However, after a long time of me wearing Stefano Ricci clothing, the partnership is becoming more and more evident and public. We're excited about the collaboration between the ValueTainment brand and Stefano Ricci. This has only happened with a couple of different people that they've done this with, ourselves, Bocelli, and it's exciting to see what's going on with this. So, at SLS, at Mar-a-Lago, we launched our premium, premium quality gear.

• 9:30Patrick Bet-David?

  For some of you that are business owners that want to wear cream of the crop clothes, ties, you know, jackets, all of that, we have that here for you. Rob, if you can play this clip here. So, we officially now have a collaboration of ties with Stefano Ricci. We have this jacket that just came out, new ties with ValueTainment on it, a blue sports jacket that looks amazing with the ValueTainment logo, the button. I don't know if you saw the button there with the ValueTainment logo on the side of it. Subtle tie and ValueTainment belt, absolutely sick belt that we have. Again, this is for those that are business owners. Can you show us this jacket here that you have, Chris? Go for it. Let's go to Chris here.

• 10:09Speaker 06

  Appreciate it. Thanks, Pat. So, we're going to walk you through our 16 units that we have of this lambskin leather aviator bomber here. 100% lambskin. I'm going to walk you why. You're saying, Chris, it looks like we have a couple of logos. We don't know what's going on, but let me walk you through why it's special. Obviously Lion Shield branding, right? Let's walk you through what these, these degrees mean. This is exactly our degrees here. We're on a, a landing pad here in Florida. This is where we take off with, with you guys sitting at home. And let me walk you through why it's special on the inside. So one of the things that Pat has said to us and, and mentions every day. So we have a little leather patch here.

• 10:52Speaker 06

  It says greatness isn't reached by staying on the ground. It's earned by taking off when others are afraid to fly.

• 10:59Patrick Bet-David?

  My man.

• 11:00Speaker 06

  So my, my man Pat came up with that. It makes sense with our aviator jacket. Let me walk you through our custom lining. You can see.

• 11:07Patrick Bet-David?

  That is sick.

• 11:08Speaker 06

  That is VT with our Lion Shields. Each of the 16 that are remaining are going to be hand signed by Pat with this leather patch. So each one is going to be signed by Pat here on corporate. You're going to see him. We're going to do it right now for you guys just to show how special it is.

• 11:25Patrick Bet-David?

  If you want to show the back, what's on the back? Turn it around.

• 11:28Speaker 06

  Yeah, let me finish. So when you make that statement, when you walk away, you walk out of that room, you get out of your car, your jet, wherever you're going. That's what you're going to see. You're setting a statement here.

• 11:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Sick. And then American flag on the side. Bring it over here, Chris.

• 11:39Speaker 06

  One last thing too. Two hours of sandblasting, literally to make that American flag.

• 11:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Really?

• 11:45Speaker 06

  So someone sat there for two hours.

• 11:46Patrick Bet-David?

  And when you put it on, it's un-frickin believable. I'll sign that. Rob, if you can go on the VT merch as well for this limited edition items that we have. By the way, there's only 16 of these. The Stefano Ritchie ties, they're all numbered out of 50, only 20 are left. The jackets that you see over there, the blue one, there's only 10 jackets left. Two of the size 40, two, two of the size 42 and 44, only one 46, only, only one 48 and only one 50. And those shirts, the dress shirts, the blue and the black, those will go in no time. If you zoom in on those shirts, Rob, if you don't mind clicking on that, just click on one of them and zoom in. The inside says future looks bright with the VT logo on it. I'm going to sign this guy over here. Oh, this is so sick. Okay.

• 12:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Chris, if you want to come grab this, guys, all you have to do is go to VTmerch.com to get this gear. This will literally go because it is limited. And again, if you're a business owner, if you ever see me wear these black shirts, now you're seeing what we're doing, the black and blue shirts. Uh, value team gear, go to VTmerch.com to place your order, limited supplies. This will go in no time. And can I wait to see you guys sport it and post pictures of it all over the place? All right, let's get right into the story.

• 12:57Patrick Bet-David?

  First story I want to talk about Rob is India and Pakistan. This thing got ugly very, very quickly. So the sequence of what happened here, Rob, if we want to kind of go through it out, on April 22nd, okay, a Muslim terrorist from Pakistan, from an organization, we can pull up the name, attack in an area, a state called Kashmir, which the war with Kashmir has been going on for many, many years. 1947 to 49 was the first one, then they did it again 65. They attacked this area, and while they attacked this area on April 22nd, they killed 26 men only, specifically, men only. They said, "Are you a Muslim?" "I am."

• 13:38Patrick Bet-David?

  On many cases, they asked the men to pull their pants down to see if they're dangling, to see if it's circumcised or not, and then they killed them because that was their way for them to know if they're Hindu or if they're Muslim. They killed them in front of their wives and their kids intentionally. They said, "Go back and say this to Modi." Then they would ask, "Are you a Christian? Are you a Muslim? Give us the Islamic prayer, give us this." If they couldn't do it, they killed them right there, 26 of them. These were five men that did this. So what does India do? You humiliated them. By the way, there's a video of a zipline. Rob, if you want to show that zipline, of a man that ziplined, and this video is being shown everywhere. First time you see this video, it's like, "What's the big deal with the zipline?" This man is ziplining, he's happy. We've all done this before, you and I, most of us have done it, while you're recording it.

• 14:19Patrick Bet-David?

  And you want to post it on social. Rob, you can lower the audio just a little bit so we can hear the shooting. He's going, minding his own business, not knowing, at the bottom there, there are terrorist attacks. They are shooting right now while he's going through this, not at him. You will see a man drop in the back right there, they're running around, they're scared, they're hearing all the stuff that's going on, the commotion. Look at this guy on the left. They're worried, there's one person on the bottom there, boom. And he has no idea, he's just floating. He has no idea what's going on. You can pause this right here, Rob. This story is all over the place. And it's been very, very aggressive with all the stuff that's taking place. Obviously, India's responded, attacking them, going back and forth.

• 15:03Patrick Bet-David?

  They're claiming there were planes that crossed. They're claiming even one plane, that's a Chinese plane, was apparently shot. So China's now getting involved, and China doesn't want to get involved. The concern with something like this is the fact that it may force China and US to get involved. China apparently has put somewhere around 85 to 100 billion dollars that they've invested in Pakistan. They don't want this war to be taking place. But if it does happen, it's also kind of strange, the timing of it, that this happens the moment, April 22nd is when this happens. April 25th is when Apple announces that they're moving the 60 million phones that they're building from India, from China to India. Of course, they kind of whispered about April 7th, but April 25th became official, not looking pretty.

• 15:47Patrick Bet-David?

  The president reacted to the story. His reaction, Rob, is this the one that you have?

• 15:52Speaker 07

  Yes, this is yesterday in the Oval Office.

• 15:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Go ahead and play this clip, Rob.

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• 16:57Speaker 10

  Attacks between India and Pakistan. No, it's a shame. We just heard about it, just as we were walking in the doors of the Oval. Just heard about it. I guess people knew something was gonna happen, based on a little bit of the past. They've been fighting for a long time, you know, they've been fighting for many, many decades. Any message? And centuries, actually, if you really think about it. No, I just hope it ends very quickly.

• 17:23Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, did you see what the Pakistani official said, Rob, about what nuclear bombs are all about? If you don't have that, Rob, just go online and look what the Pakistani official said on, I want to say, April 26th, about nuclear museum. Just tapping "nuclear and museum." See if it comes up. Okay, Pakistan nuclear, right there, it's right there on the bottom. Okay. Can you make that a little bit bigger? We are ready to stand up. Okay, play this clip and just read it on the bottom. Go ahead, I'll read it. We are ready to stand up to India regardless of the price. If they want to hurt themselves, they have the capabilities to respond to them on every front. We are ready, we will not withdraw.

• 18:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Watch what he says. We will respond to them forcefully. If they do one thing, we will do two.

• 18:14Patrick Bet-David?

  I would like to add that we are proud of our former Prime Minister,

• 18:21Patrick Bet-David?

  who enabled us to obtain nuclear bombs. These bombs are not here just to be displayed in museums.

• 18:32Patrick Bet-David?

  They exist in order for us to use them. Therefore, Pakistan needs to use them, we will use them. Because we will not surrender to Indian threats. You can pause it right there. FYI, India's number six in the most nuclear weapons with 172, Pakistan's number seven with 170. They have the same amount of nuclear capabilities with what's going on here in India. Tom, your thoughts on this and how ugly this could get?

• 18:55Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, I always get worried when war hawks in the United States are not... Like aghast at this, which you have to remember, the Pakistan Air Force is the Chinese Air Force. China sells aircraft to Pakistan. We cooperate with India on defense things. So when India and Pakistan go at it, there are people in the US, specifically military industrial complex and the warhawks, they don't mind it. Because guess what we get to do? We get to test our stuff against China's stuff. Because Pakistan's flying the China's stuff, India's got basically US stuff and stuff that they've built derivatively. And so we get to have a little test match. Do you see that?

• 19:40Tom Ellsworth?

  So in the mountains of Pakistan, Chinese jets fly over, any aircraft shoots them down, and we say, hey, that worked, that's a great test. So there's that going on, which sickens me, when warhawks in the United States really see proxy wars as nothing more than test beds and economic opportunity for the US military industrial complex. That's my first point, that sickens me. The second point is, I believe that China has irritated Pakistan and started this and got some rebels going, just like the Chinese CIA, you know, I believe they instigated. I believe China helped instigate this, because there's cards being played. Remember, J.D.

• 20:22Tom Ellsworth?

  Vance, you were giving dates, Pat, and all you had to do back is go back two more dates, there was another date, which was the date that J.D. Vance went over there and sat down, talked about a trade agreement. And then last week, who was on the Sunday shows, and he said, there's a deal going in Asia, it's done, done, done, done.

• 20:38Speaker 05

  Well, Lutnik.

• 20:39Tom Ellsworth?

  Lutnik said that, and everybody said, oh, he's talking, we think, we think he's talking about India. And he says, is it India? And he said, no, no, the president will make the announcement at the right time. But you could tell they're enthusiastic. So India's getting momentum with not just Apple, but with US on trade deal? That is, they are the one big chess piece that can play on the chessboard with China when it comes to manufacturing. And it's, it would be China's strategic advantage to instigate something with Pakistan and to get them going. And by the way, this, this doesn't, this doesn't stop here, because Pakistan's going to get support from countries that regard, because of its Muslim faith, as brothers

• 21:24Tom Ellsworth?

  in arms. You attack me, you attack you, you're attacking me.

• 21:28Speaker 05

  Would we take it's like, here's my question though, Tom. Cause it, this is, it seemed like it's escalating, it's not gonna stop. And by the way, just to piggyback on Tom's point, the combat aircraft path, the JF-17 Thunder is a joint venture with Pakistan and China. All right, and then the Chengdu J-10C is another acquired from China. And then also, um, what is it? Their air defense systems, the HU-9BE is a high to medium altitude air defense system from China. So what I'm saying is, Tom.

• 21:57Tom Ellsworth?

  China armed Pakistan?

• 21:58Speaker 05

  Yeah, would, would we, cause we're the world's police, do we get involved to help Chi- uh, India in this situation? If it escalates?

• 22:05Tom Ellsworth?

  I think we would probably do it the same way we did it with, uh, with Ukraine. Here, here's the good stuff, go get them.

• 22:12Speaker 05

  Got you, okay, got you, because that.

• 22:14Patrick Bet-David?

  The way Biden did it with Ukraine?

• 22:16Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 22:17Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, Biden, remember originally, didn't give them the good stuff.

• 22:21Speaker 05

  Yeah, he gave them the whatever stuff, but here's my thing. This is, we're talking about two nations that have nukes and that type of, that type of, that, him saying that, like, oh, we got nukes, they're not just supposed to be sitting there, we wanna use them, that's not.

• 22:32Patrick Bet-David?

  You wanna know what the craziest thing is, Rob? Can you go to the map? Go to the map there, like Russia, Pakistan, China, just go to the map of that area, watch this, yeah, zoom in a little bit. Uh, uh, so, so take a look at this, so you got China there, zoom in a little bit if you could. You got China, can you show where Pakistan is? You got China, you got India, you got Pakistan.

• 22:53Adam Sosnick?

  Pakistan borders Afghanistan and also Iran.

• 22:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, Afghanistan slightly, uh, Iran on the bottom, and then if you look above them, it's who? Above them is who, right there, what is that?

• 23:05Adam Sosnick?

  That's China, Mongolia up there in Nepal.

• 23:08Patrick Bet-David?

  To the left?

• 23:08Adam Sosnick?

  Kazakhstan. To the left?

• 23:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so now who's above all of that, right above it? Then you're going to what?

• 23:14Adam Sosnick?

  Russia.

• 23:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so check this out. Do you know who gives 60% of the military supply to India? Russia. Really? Sixty percent. Do you know who buys forty percent of Russia's oil supply while everybody is not doing business with Russia? India? India. So as weird as this is, China, you know Putin and Xi have a relationship. Yeah. But Putin's not giving up the relationship with India. Putin's trying to play Switzerland. It's like, hey, guys, hey, I want to be more on India's side than I want to be on Pakistan's side. Big customer of Putin. Big customer of Putin, okay? So that's complex and a little bit, you know, to look at the dynamics because, you know, China's kind of like, well, I'm going to lean on Russia to take care of me. Well, no, and then China

• 23:59Patrick Bet-David?

  signed a forty-year lease at a port that's in Pakistan that they're leveraging and making a bunch of different investments that no matter what happens, good economy, bad economy, Pakistan has to pay China. The way they negotiated a deal, they have a chokehold on Pakistan is what they're doing. They have a chokehold on Pakistan. Strategically, why would they be doing this? Because they know there's a country that can take a lot of business away from them. And who is that? That's India. They don't like India. They do not like what's going on with India. So as much as I believe, my opinion, as much as I believe they're involved in the proxy war behind closed doors, they're also involved in the proxy war, hoping India doesn't attack their investment of eighty-five billion dollars that they made into Pakistan. And guess what India knows? Oh, really?

• 24:44Patrick Bet-David?

  You want to do this? Guess what I'm going to be doing? I'm going to be attacking the areas you don't want me to attack. It's a very nasty thing going on right now. If you think about it right now, this is a very similar situation to when Hamas attacked Israel, October seventh. This is the Muslim terrorists. Rob, can you find a name so I can just say it correctly for the audience to see? And by the way, there are a lot of people that will disagree with us. A lot of people that are disagree with us. This is another one of those things where the tension's going to be high. Yeah, there it is. That's the name.

• 25:21Patrick Bet-David?

  And Lashkar E Taiba fueled the conflict, have significant intentions. Both Pakistani-based groups have been.

• 25:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Heavily implicated in attacks in India Kashmir, leading to border skirmishes. And by the way, this kid is being interviewed in India. This kid, this, watch what happens. This kid goes viral. Watch this interview, young kid, go ahead and play this clip, Rob.

• 25:45Speaker 12

  Pakistan zindabad, zindabad. Sharm nahi ari, ki saal aayi.

• 25:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Why should I be ashamed?

• 25:50Speaker 12

  Pakistan ko khatam nahi karna chahiye.

• 25:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Pakistan shouldn't be destroyed. It shouldn't be.

• 25:53Speaker 12

  Bharat desh zindabad hai nahi.

• 25:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Long live India, yes or no?

• 25:55Speaker 12

  Pakistan zindabad hai nahi. Aapka naam, aapka naam kya hoga? Tum bhi aapni jagah pe zindabad. Aapka naam kya hoga? Kev. Kev, pura naam? Kev, Mohammed Kev. Kaha se aap? Main Bhaiar se aam. Bhaiar se? Aapko thodi si bhi sharm nahi aari ke Bharat desh me rehne ke baad azad aap Pakistan ke samartan kar raho? Ki kaise khatam hoga Pakistan? Acha aap ki news bana raha to aapko sharm nahi aari ke kai news bana raha hu? Aa, aapko sharm nahi aari hai? Ki news bana ke sabko phila raha hu? Hindu muslim ke baare me. Hindustan ke samartan kyu karna? Aa, pahle humare jabat diye se baat hum kuchh boli. Tum jo bol raha hu, waha bhi aadmi hai?

• 26:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Very interesting, both sides.

• 26:30Speaker 12

  Waha bhi muslim hai, waha bhi hindu hai, yaav bhi hindu hai. Sab to hai, kyu sabko khatam karna?

• 26:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Young guy, you can pause it right there, Rob. Adam, your thoughts on this?

• 26:38Adam Sosnick?

  The, the India Pakistan relationship, I would argue is probably the most important geopolitical situation going on in the world today. We all understand that United States and China are in the midst of a trade war, we understand that. But I don't think we're gonna see a hot war with the United States and China anytime soon, God willing. India Pakistan, two nuclear powers? They're in both the top 10 nuclear arsenals in the world, I wanna say.

• 27:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Six and seven.

• 27:06Adam Sosnick?

  Okay, this thing can get ugly real quick, real quick. So everyone's focused on these sort of land, power, religious, border disputes that are happening all around the world. Namely, Russia, Ukraine, Israel, Palestine, Armenia, Azerbaijan. None of that is as big as what could potentially happen between India and Pakistan. This thing can get real ugly, and it's been ugly decade after decade after decade. So, if you're in America, why would you care? This is why I always sort of have an issue with the American isolationist, we shouldn't do anything, forget about the rest of the world, okay? Well, if India and Pakistan have a nuclear war, let me know how that works out for America and the rest of the world.

• 27:50Adam Sosnick?

  So by the way, look at the map of the world, by the way. Here's something to consider. If you cut the world in half... Fifty percent of the landmass is on the eastern hemisphere. Also, fifty percent of the landmass is on the western hemisphere, okay? But do you know what percentage of the world population, people, are in the eastern hemisphere versus the western hemisphere? Do you know? Do we have more? No way. No, it's gotta, it's gotta be two to one. They, almost, they have eighty percent of the world population. Eighty percent is in that side of the world. China, India, those are the two largest, right? Russia, Pakistan, Iran, Saudi. Six point six billion to one point one billion. It's not even close.

• 28:34Adam Sosnick?

  So that side of the world, that's the old world. The west is the new world. So it could get real ugly, real quick, in that side of the world. Now, if you, if you kind of scroll out, and this is sort of, you know, a metaphor, you know, they, they just had the NFL draft a week ago, right? All right, you know, Shador Sanders, where's he going? Who's gonna be number one? All right, the guy from Miami, okay, what's going on here? It, right now, there's, you know, this is the, probably the first time since World War II, basically, India and Pakistan were established right after World War II. Much like most of, most of these countries, the world is having a draft at this point. And at the, the, the team captains are the United States and China. Essentially democracies versus autocrats.

• 29:18Adam Sosnick?

  And everyone gets their picks. And the United States has basically aligned themselves with the following countries. United, the United Kingdom, obviously, Japan, Germany, Israel, India, South Korea, Canada, Poland, shout out to our friends in Poland. Um, whereas China has aligned with the following countries. Russia, Iran, Pakistan, uh, North Korea, Belarus, Turkey, and multiple Islamic countries. Now, what's the common theme here? One stands for democracies, one stands for autocrats. So we're having this clash at the border, specifically in Kashmir, between Hindu democracy versus a Muslim,

• 30:03Adam Sosnick?

  we'll see, theocratic regime? We're gonna see what happens. By the way. Don't forget, one last thing. Do you remember who the president, uh, or prime minister of Pakistan was?

• 30:13Speaker 05

  His name was Imran Khan. Do you remember this guy?

• 30:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Mm-hmm.

• 30:17Speaker 05

  Do you know where he is right now? He's in jail, I believe. He's like the Bolsonaro of-

• 30:22Patrick Bet-David?

  He was a soccer player.

• 30:24Speaker 05

  Is that what he was?

• 30:25Patrick Bet-David?

  I think so. I think he was a soccer player.

• 30:26Speaker 05

  He's currently in jail right now. And under his regime, apparently, relations with Iran, with India were reaching the best they've seen in decades. But he's now in jail, and now this. So, there's a lot of stuff that's going on here, and being in America, just keep your eyes out for-

• 30:46Patrick Bet-David?

  We're gonna see what's going on. And one of the challenges with this is the fact that, yeah, he was a soccer player back in the days, cricket player back in the days. He was an athlete. So, one of the things with this is the water challenge that they're having. The water deal between the two, there's a word for it. I think it's called the Indus Water Treaty that was signed many, many years ago, where they're sharing the water, and India's holding the water from Pakistan. And one of Pakistan's, I think it's six, they have a breakdown of what are six things you could do to us that would prompt us using a nuclear bomb on you. One of the six is if you don't allow us to get the water, and

• 31:28Patrick Bet-David?

  they're calling this something that can prompt a nuclear war. And India's not releasing the water. So, they're still hanging on to it and not allocating the water that they need to be. This is a speculation on the story. So, obviously, you don't provide water, man. That's, and what are you supposed to do as a, you know, so it's complicated, but at the same time, you started the attack, I have to show strength.

• 31:50Speaker 05

  Of course.

• 31:50Patrick Bet-David?

  What was that all about? Why'd you do that? We have to show strength, and we can't sit there and, you know, sympathize with why you're not getting this. You have to show power. That's what they're-

• 31:59Speaker 05

  Well, we talked about this yesterday, not to cut you off, Adam. We talked about, we throw away this world nuclear, you know, everybody, they always scared us about Putin and nukes and all that. That's BS. For that guy from Pakistan to sit there and say, "It's not gonna sit in a museum. We will use it." We talked about this yesterday. If they launch a nuke, and India launches back, what do you think happens? It's not gonna just be like, "Oh, they've launched and it's over." 'Cause then, think about the proximity of China, and everybody's launching, and it's over. It's called mutual destruction. Nobody wants this. So, I hope they're monitoring these freaking guys.

• 32:31Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, you know what the president said? He says, "He's willing to go anywhere to make sure this gets stopped."

• 32:36Speaker 05

  It has to be, yeah.

• 32:37Patrick Bet-David?

  He's willing to go anywhere to make sure this gets stopped.

• 32:39Speaker 05

  P B, I know you said this was complicated.

• 32:41Adam Sosnick?

  When you say it's complicated, do you mean the mess, the situation? Do you mean geopolitical alliances? What's your take on it?

• 32:46Patrick Bet-David?

  The history of it. I mean, this whole thing started off with Britain where they have a pride of, hey, this is supposed to be ours. No, it's supposed to be ours. And majority of this area that was Muslim area, but the guy that was running it was a Hindu. They ended up giving it control for Hindus. Very complicated history that they have. But at the same time, look, history repeats itself. And you just hope these guys doesn't, you know, they don't go to the next level. I think China is using their creative methods of if it's not going to be COVID, you want me to create some disruption in the world? Maybe this is one of the ways. China sits there and says, oh, you want to, you want to play this tariff war? You want a nuclear war? Now let me create a nuclear war. They are so creative on the ways.

• 33:28Patrick Bet-David?

  If there's anybody in the world, I, and I'm from Iran. You would think Iran would be at the top of the list. China is above Iran for me on who I trust the least because China controls Iran today.

• 33:43Adam Sosnick?

  Of course.

• 33:44Patrick Bet-David?

  And so for, for us to see what's going to be happening, I think China's.

• 33:47Adam Sosnick?

  China's the, the big boss.

• 33:49Patrick Bet-David?

  They're the big boss.

• 33:49Adam Sosnick?

  They're pulling the strings.

• 33:50Patrick Bet-David?

  They are.

• 33:50Adam Sosnick?

  One, one thing I just want to say from an American standpoint, where I've been following this story for 25 years now and I, and I learned about Pakistan. So what happened? So India and Pakistan, what's, why did this happen? Oh, in 1948, they had a war and 2 million people were crisscrossing countries and were killed. What? Cause we talk, the, the, the word genocide gets thrown out a little too loosely these days. There was a full on genocide between Pakistan and India. Now, why did I start following this 25 years ago? Well, because after nine 11 in America, we started asking some questions. Who did what? What did who? Afghanistan? Is it Iraq? Weapons of mass destruction? Who's this guy Osama bin Laden?

• 34:35Adam Sosnick?

  What the hell here? And here's the point. Where did they find Osama bin Laden? Where was bin Laden bin Hayden? Well, he wasn't in Afghanistan. He was in Pakistan. And he was found one mile from a massive military base in Pakistan. Remember SEAL Team Six went in there. There it is right there. He was in a massive apparent mansion. What they called it the Wazaristan mansion. Now, here's what I do know. We talk about the intelligence communities. We talk about nuclear warheads. Both these countries, India and Pakistan, have a top 10 intelligence company, intelligent units all around the world. Obviously CIA, MI6, KGB, whatever you want to call it.

• 35:20Adam Sosnick?

  India and Pakistan have massive intelligence units. So either this intelligence unit in Pakistan was stunningly incompetent to not know that the world's most wanted terrorist was one mile away from a military base, or they just looked the other way and they were complicit. So the United States went in their SEAL Team Six and took out bin Laden. Do you think they informed the Pakistani government or not? The answer is hell no. They went in there very cloak and dagger-esque. And since they took out bin Laden, the United States and Pakistan's, let's just say, relationship has been at an all time low. I'm on Team India here just because they're our ally

• 36:05Adam Sosnick?

  and Pakistan has a lot of explaining to do.

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• 37:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, all right, that was a good take to know if Osama bin Laden feels safe being in Pakistan. What does that tell you about Pakistan? Period. Good point. All right, so let's go to the next thing here with Mark Carney. Rob, if you can pull it up, they had a meeting, Mark Carney from Canada, Prime Minister, who beat out the other candidate. I forget his name, Pierre Poliev, who had a massive lead at the beginning of the year. French for loser. Pretty bad, in a very bad way. And he, you know, rejected the idea, wanted to go on Theo Von, Joe Rogan, all these other stuff, the Nelk Boys, ourselves. And, you know, campaign managers ran by pompous style way.

• 37:49Patrick Bet-David?

  But Mark Carney, that should have been Pierre sitting there, but Mark Carney got the seat because it takes a lot of work to get it. And you have to compete for it. Competition is real when you're campaigning, especially in countries like Canada. You don't, you can't be afraid of what the media is going to be saying. But if you are afraid of being what the media is going to be saying, you're going to lose to another guy that's going to sit there and do this. So Mark Carney is here with the president and having a lot of conversations. Rob, what clips do you have? Do you have a few of them?

• 38:11Speaker 07

  Yes, this is the first one. This is where Mark Carney says that Canada is not for sale. And then President Trump responds with never say never.

• 38:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you, do you have what he says prior to this? Do you have, matter of fact, can you do me a favor? Rather than going to clips, go online and find the entire interview and I'll tell you where we go with this. Because just go to YouTube, Rob. If, okay, if you go to YouTube, find the whole thing, you'll see because the sequencing of the way he does it. It's a clinic on communication, folks. It's an absolute clinic. It's, it's, which one is it? We're not going to watch the whole thing, but you can click on any one of them. Let's go to that one. Okay. So if you, if you watch this thing at the beginning where he's giving him compliments, okay? If you can make it a little bit bigger, he's giving him compliments at the beginning. Go ahead and play it. Fast forward a little bit.

• 39:03Speaker 10

  Thank you very much, everybody.

• 39:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, watch this.

• 39:05Speaker 10

  It's a great honor to have Prime Minister Mark Carney with us. As you know, just a few days ago, he won a very big election in Canada. And I think I was probably the greatest thing that happened to him, but I can't take fault.

• 39:19Speaker 10

  His party was losing by a lot, and he ended up winning, so I really want to congratulate him. It was probably one of the greatest comebacks in the history of politics, maybe even greater than mine.

• 39:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Bingo. Trump will not say stuff like that.

• 39:32Speaker 10

  But I want to just congratulate you. It was a great election, actually. We were watching it with interest, and I think Canada Joe's a very talented person, a very good person.

• 39:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Interesting.

• 39:41Speaker 10

  As we spoke before the election quite a few times. And it's an honor to have you at the White House and the Oval Office. You see the new and improved Oval Office as it becomes more and more beautiful, with love, you know, we handle it with great love, and 24 karat gold, that always helps.

• 40:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Boss.

• 40:03Speaker 10

  Going over some of the beautiful pictures that were stored in the vault.

• 40:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Fast forward a little bit until it gets to the point. Just pause it right there, let's see if that's the part.

• 40:09Speaker 10

  What the purpose of what we were doing, so that's just news, we just found out about various sees.

• 40:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Fast forward.

• 40:18Speaker 10

  Like, as big as it gets, and I won't tell you on what, but it's gonna, and it's very positive. I'd also, I'd tell you if it was negative or positive, I can't keep that out. It is really, really positive.

• 40:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Fast forward a little bit. Fast forward. It gets to a place where, see if that's the part where he's talking. See if that's the part where he's explaining. Click on it, let's see if this is the part.

• 40:42Speaker 10

  When he wasn't given much of a chance, and he did, he ran a really great campaign, he did a really great debate, I think that debate was very helpful.

• 40:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Listen. So he's building him up.

• 40:50Speaker 10

  I'm just gonna raise my hand.

• 40:53Speaker 10

  I don't know if that's good or bad, I shouldn't say that, that might hurt you. But, no, he ran a really great election, I thought. And yeah, something could happen, something could happen. Yeah, please.

• 41:04Speaker 09

  The top concession you want out of Canada, the top concession you want out of Canada.

• 41:08Speaker 10

  Concession?

• 41:09Speaker 09

  Yes.

• 41:09Speaker 10

  Uh, friendship.

• 41:11Speaker 09

  But that's not a concession.

• 41:12Speaker 10

  Oh, just, I just, we're gonna be friends with Canada. Regardless of anything, we're gonna be friends with Canada. Canada's a very special place, uh, to me. I know so many people that live in Canada. My parents had relatives that lived in Canada, my mother in particular. And, uh, no, I love Canada. A lot of, I have a lot of, uh, respect for the Canadians. Wayne Gretzky, I mean, how good, the great one.

• 41:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, yeah.

• 41:38Speaker 10

  You happen to have a very, very good hockey player right here on the Capitals, who I have a lot of, he is a big, tough cookie. He just broke the record, and he's a great guy, and, uh, you know, we had the, uh, we had the team here, and I got to know a lot of the players. But, uh, no, Canada's a very special place. Yeah, please.

• 41:57Speaker 01

  Mr. President.

• 42:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Fast forward a little bit when he starts talking about real estate, because, is that the part, let's see if that's the part.

• 42:06Speaker 10

  Just a straight line right across the top of the country. I'm a real estate tax cut.

• 42:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, go back a little bit, watch this. To his face, look what he says. Go back a little bit more.

• 42:14Speaker 10

  Uh, you get free military.

• 42:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Go back a little bit more.

• 42:17Speaker 10

  It's two to tango, right?

• 42:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Go back a little bit more, watch this, watch this, this is the part.

• 42:23Patrick Bet-David?

  He says it too hard.

• 42:24Speaker 10

  No, no, well, I still believe that, but, but, you know, takes two to tango, right? But, no, I do, I mean, I believe it would be, uh, a massive tax cut for the Canadian citizens. Uh, you get free military, you get tremendous, uh, medical cares and other things. Uh, there would be a lot of, uh, advantages, but it would be, it would be a massive tax cut. And it's also a beautiful, you know, as a real estate developer, you know, I'm a real estate developer at heart. When you get rid of that artificially drawn line, somebody drew that line many years ago with like a ruler, just a straight line right across the top of the country. When you look at that beautiful formation, when it's together, I'm a very artistic person.

• 43:06Speaker 10

  But when I looked at that beauty, I said, that's the way it was meant to be, but, you know, it, uh... I guess, I do feel it's much better for Canada. But we're not going to be discussing that unless somebody wants to discuss it. I think that there are tremendous benefits to the Canadian citizens. Tremendously lower taxes, free military, which honestly, we give you essentially anyway because we're protecting Canada if you ever had a problem. But I think, you know, it's a wonderful marriage because it's two places they get along very well, they like each other a lot.

• 43:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Watch.

• 43:42Speaker 13

  Well, if I may, as you know from real estate, there are some places that are never for sale.

• 43:49Speaker 10

  That's true.

• 43:50Speaker 13

  We're sitting in one right now, you know, Buckingham Palace that you visited as well.

• 43:54Speaker 10

  That's true.

• 43:55Speaker 13

  And having met with the owners of Canada over the course of the campaign, last several months, it's not for sale, won't be for sale, ever. Who means the people of Canada? But the opportunity is in the partnership and what we can build together. We have done that in the past. And part of that, as the President just said, is with respect to our own security. And my government is committed for a step change in our investment in Canadian security and our partnership. And I'll say this as well, that the President has revitalized international security, revitalized NATO.

• 44:31Speaker 10

  That's true.

• 44:32Speaker 13

  And us playing our full weight in NATO, and that will be part of it.

• 44:34Speaker 10

  They have, I must say, Canada is stepping up the military.

• 44:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, you can now pause and go to that clip that you had, when he says, "Never say never." Watch this.

• 44:47Speaker 10

  ...they get along very well, they like each other a lot.

• 44:50Speaker 13

  Well, if I may, as you know from real estate, there are some places that are never for sale.

• 44:57Patrick Bet-David?

  No, that's not it, Rob. That's the one. We just watch this. It's the one that says, "Never say never."

• 45:01Speaker 13

  We're sitting in one right now.

• 45:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Maybe fast forward.

• 45:03Speaker 13

  And I'll say this as well, that the President...

• 45:05Patrick Bet-David?

  We literally just watched this.

• 45:06Tom Ellsworth?

  It's right at the end here.

• 45:07Speaker 10

  And Mark knew, you know, they were low and now they're stepping it up and that's a very important thing, but never say never.

• 45:12Patrick Bet-David?

  There you go.

• 45:15Tom Ellsworth?

  He just said never, never, never.

• 45:16Patrick Bet-David?

  So Tom, your thoughts on this?

• 45:18Tom Ellsworth?

  First of all, Carney is here because he has to be because the campaigning is over, all the picking on Trump and all the picking on things is over. Suddenly he's over here, something he also said in an interview later yesterday where he said, "He's a transformational president focused on the economy with a relentless focus on the American workers, securing your borders, ending the scourge of fentanyl and other opioids and securing the world." So suddenly Carney becomes the PR guy for President Trump. That's what that sounds like. But why is he doing that? Because the election is over and now it's time to do deals and Carney needs a trade deal and Carney needs cooperation and Carney needs President Trump to take his foot off the tariff pedal because it's working.

• 46:03Tom Ellsworth?

  And so now he's coming down here trying the best he can to say, "Well, we're not for sale," but meantime, calling Trump a transformational president. That's what we're seeing here. Election's over, it's time to deal and so who does he come? I'm coming to your house and I'm coming soon and I need to talk to you.

• 46:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam?

• 46:20Adam Sosnick?

  Look, the relationship with Canada and the United States is arguably our most important relationship in the world. Strategically, militarily, economically, domestically, I mean, they're our neighbors. So, yeah, you know, the China relationship with the United States is probably the most important to manage, but they're not our friend, they're not our ally, they're our competitor and you could use a different word to describe what we got going on with them, but we don't need to have issues with Canada. At the same time, let's recognize we are the little, we are the big brother, they are the little brother and they should respect the fact of what we do for them, especially militarily.

• 47:03Adam Sosnick?

  The one thing where I don't want to upset PBD, but you did notice what Trump said. He said, you know, a lot of people think that you have me to thank for this election, for you winning Mark Carney. So I, I understand that Pierre Poliev royally screwed up, but he also was running against not only just Mark Carney, he was also running against Trump, in my opinion. And he should have managed it better, Pierre Poliev. He should have done what he needed to do. He should have campaigned better. He should have gotten off his lazy ass and gone on these podcasts. But not only fighting against Carney, fighting against Trump is, I think, the reason that Pierre Poliev lost.

• 47:44Patrick Bet-David?

  That's 100% on Pierre Poliev.

• 47:48Adam Sosnick?

  Doubling down, yeah.

• 47:49Patrick Bet-David?

  If you don't know how to handle Trump because you are so afraid of the liberal media and what Canadians think about Trump, you're not a change engine. You're just the same as usual boring candidate that comes up and acts tough and says what he says. And here's a clip, by the way. Tuesday, we do a podcast. In the afternoon, this clip circulates. Okay, Rogan doing a pod, and he asks him about Pierre Poliev. Look at this clip here. Go ahead, Rob. Play this clip.

• 48:16Speaker 01

  Kind of reminds me of what happened in Canada with the truckers.

• 48:18Speaker 14

  Yes.

• 48:19Speaker 01

  I mean, they froze their, they froze their bank accounts. Or people who donated to them.

• 48:24Speaker 14

  Yeah, people who donated to them, got their bank accounts frozen.

• 48:27Speaker 01

  How insane.

• 48:28Speaker 14

  Insane. Insane. And then that same party just won again. Good job, Canada.

• 48:36Speaker 01

  If they didn't have good bear hunting, I would never be.

• 48:40Speaker 14

  I do have to say, I offered to have that Pierre guy come on the podcast.

• 48:43Speaker 01

  Really?

• 48:44Speaker 14

  He didn't do it. Wouldn't do it. Thought it was too problematic. Or whatever. Jordan told me, I forget what he said, but they, they were telling him not to do it. Like his advisors.

• 48:52Adam Sosnick?

  Does he mean Jordan Peterson?

• 48:53Speaker 01

  What is, hey.

• 48:55Speaker 14

  Hey dumbass.

• 48:57Adam Sosnick?

  Jordan Farmer, the point guard?

• 48:58Patrick Bet-David?

  So funny.

• 48:59Adam Sosnick?

  UCLA. So he said that Jordan Peterson, correct me if I'm wrong, Jordan Peterson was the one that advised him not to go on Rogan?

• 49:06Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, no, no.

• 49:06Adam Sosnick?

  I thought it was a country of Jordan.

• 49:07Patrick Bet-David?

  He said, Jordan said, his advisors told him not to do it.

• 49:12Speaker 14

  Somebody from Joe's team has a guy named Jordan.

• 49:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Not Jordan Peterson told. So because Jordan Peterson had Pierre, my interpretation, my English is my fifth language, but my interpretation, Pierre's been on Jordan Peterson three times, maybe four times. So Joe asks Jordan, hey, can you ask Pierre to come?

• 49:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Jordan asked Jordan, Jordan asked Pierre's camp. Pierre's camp says, his advisor said, they don't think it's a good idea for Pierre to get on Rogan. Well, obviously, that's ridiculous.

• 49:40Adam Sosnick?

  Can I say one thing about Jordan? Jordan Peterson has been on Rogan how many times? I don't know if you can find out.

• 49:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Four, many times.

• 49:46Adam Sosnick?

  Okay, so if I, Jordan Peterson is Canadian, he's respected, we all respect what Jordan Peterson has done. If I'm Jordan Peterson and I'm a sort of a strategist, if I have a direct phone call to Pierre or his team, I would say the following, listen, guy, get your ass on Rogan immediately. And start doing the podcast rounds. Jordan Peterson is a smart guy. I have no idea why he didn't just say, listen, get down to Rogan now. I've done Rogan. What is, what is, going on Joe Rogan, what has that done for Jordan Peterson's career? Has that helped or hurt his career?

• 50:19Speaker 05

  Obviously.

• 50:21Adam Sosnick?

  Obviously, it's helped. So just look at the template here, look at the case example. Is it 10 times? How many, eight times?

• 50:26Speaker 05

  So let me ask you a question then.

• 50:28Adam Sosnick?

  So he goes eight times and you go zero?

• 50:29Speaker 05

  Well, here's my question then, maybe, this is a possibility, the people that were around Pierre were actually against him. Cause nobody in their right mind, no, hold on a second.

• 50:41Adam Sosnick?

  I'll let you finish.

• 50:42Speaker 05

  Adam, okay, make the case for me how somebody, a normal person with a regular working brain would be like, nah, going on the most popular podcast in the history of the world, still happening, would be a bad idea. Go ahead, go ahead, try, try to explain that to me.

• 51:00Adam Sosnick?

  No, well, it doesn't make, what you're saying is.

• 51:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you do me a favor and pull up the clip I sent you by Doug Ford? That says he used a terrible campaign manager and he should have used the one that I told him about. Do you have that clip that I sent you? If you want me to, I'll, I'll text it to you, I have it here. So this was said three weeks ago, okay?

• 51:22Adam Sosnick?

  I have it.

• 51:22Patrick Bet-David?

  You have it, can you play that clip? I'll just text it to you as well if you could. So now, some people are blaming the campaign manager, we talked about it on Tuesday. And I told you guys that Ford said this, and I found the clip, here's a clip if you can play it, go for it.

• 51:36Speaker 15

  You know, something else for Corey, I've said right from day one, he's tough as nails, but he's the best campaign manager in the country, and to be very frank, if Corey was running that campaign, I don't think Mr. Poliev would be in the positions he's in right now. But it's still a lot of time left, we still have debates, at the end of the day, the people will decide which way they want this country to move forward.

• 52:00Patrick Bet-David?

  So, three weeks ago, he is saying, you can posit, he is saying that the campaign manager is the reason why it happened. But anyways, regardless of it, let's go back to Carney. The fact that this conversation is happening, Carney was able to manage Trump in a better way, I do believe they had a conversation together. What's the first time they spoke, by the way, then when Trump all of a sudden started supporting him? When was the first time that Trump, uh, the first time Trump started being complimentary about, uh, about Carney and taking shots at, at Poliev, at Pierre? Okay, when was the first time that that took place? Because if you think about the timing there, to a guy like Trump, he's

• 52:45Patrick Bet-David?

  sitting there saying, "What is wrong with you, Pierre? I tried to work with you, I tried to do something with you, you're not being diplomatic, this is who I have to deal with? And Carney is easier for me to deal with than you?" I think that's when you realize there are some issues. I want to say this was a few weeks ago, this could have been four to six weeks ago when it happened, it's not May 6th. This was four to six weeks, six weeks ago, when the conversation took place, and, uh, you know, he said 51st and Poliev, and, you know, Trump was critical of Poliev, and then it led to what it is, which means Poliev doesn't know how to handle a guy like Trump. And, again, you're not fit to be an executive, you're fit to be a person that's gonna have to ask another person to step down to get a parliament job, after having been in that business since you were 24, 25

• 53:30Patrick Bet-David?

  years old. Superstar, great speaker, great motivational speaker, this looks very good on camera, beautiful wife, good-looking guy, but, um, not a winner.

• 53:40Adam Sosnick?

  Pierre Poliev, like if you can compare him to someone in America running an election, would, in my opinion, would you compare him to someone like a Ron DeSantis?

• 53:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Guaranteed.

• 53:49Adam Sosnick?

  Really?

• 53:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Very similar styles.

• 53:51Adam Sosnick?

  Okay, explain that.

• 53:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Both feel like they belong during, you know, it's automatic without having to work for it.

• 53:57Adam Sosnick?

  Look, let's be fair.

• 53:59Patrick Bet-David?

  The governor eventually ended up coming on the podcast here. And it was the most viewed podcast he did out of everybody.

• 54:04Adam Sosnick?

  Was it really? I believe it.

• 54:05Patrick Bet-David?

  It was every, everybody reacted to it in a marketplace. It doesn't matter Fallon, Kimmel, the view, everybody. You call it good or bad, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. They, it was his opportunity to show the lighter side of him. The same way where everybody said Trump's hair is fake. And he went on Fallon or Kimmel and he allowed him to play with it. And it was on his way to Rhode Island. This was a moment for him to be human, he missed it. So, but very similar styles. The difference is DeSantis eventually went and talked to everybody. He did not. DeSantis eventually went and talked to Kelly, everybody. He didn't do it. So, I would say moments of it was similar to DeSantis. But at least eventually they made the pivot. Pierre never made the pivot.

• 54:49Adam Sosnick?

  And don't forget, DeSantis actually went and got his job back as governor of the great state of Florida.

• 54:54Patrick Bet-David?

  And now maybe his wife may be running.

• 54:55Adam Sosnick?

  Exactly. Whereas Pierre Poliev lost not only the election, lost his seat and had to give like a, like a re-gift, like a concession seat.

• 55:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Let's move on, let's move on to the next story here on, uh, uh, uh, what's going on. So, uh, the story I want to go to is, let me see which story I want to go to right now. Let's go to Doug Burgum. Doug Burgum warns of real energy emergency that will permit China to dominate us. If you can play this clip, Rob, I do know you have a clip on this. So, uh, Interior Secretary Doug Burgum warned on Fox Business Cutlow that the real energy emergency that we have right now is that we don't have enough energy in this country. Is that the clip, Rob?

• 55:37Adam Sosnick?

  Yep.

• 55:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Go for it.

• 55:38Speaker 16

  President Trump on day one declared a national energy emergency and rightfully so because we're under grit from China related to critical minerals. We've got huge challenges on electrical power generation. We saw what happened this past week in Spain. That could be happening in America, yet even this summer because the Biden administration rules put our grid at such risk. But then in terms of oil and natural gas, which helps us power our economy. And again, right here on the Gulf Coast, selling energy to our friends and allies, all this natural gas that's going around the world to help displace energy that was coming from our adversaries.

• 56:22Speaker 01

  A total unabashed embrace of energy dominance in the world. There's no apologizing for it. And, you know, of course, you meet with all these guys that work on the oil rig.

• 56:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, you can pause that. Tom, your thoughts on this?

• 56:36Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, first of all, you know, the Department of Energy is not a sexy department. It's not like Secretary of State going out there on these trade deals and things like that. But you know what? Doug Burgum is doing a job for America right now, and both sides know it, but only one side will admit it. Because what has happened with EVs and with data centers is he's right. We have an energy shortage in America. Despite solar panels and wind farms and things that have done, we have an energy shortage in America. This is why Google is trying to get permits for its own micro nukes to supply data centers. It's why Oracle is trying to do the same thing to get permits.

• 57:20Tom Ellsworth?

  And Doug is out there just absolutely, I think he gets, he could be, you know what? He could be like the MVP runner up in the administration this year. I say that because the MVP is going to be whoever figures out all the trade deals and all the tariffs and things coming back. And of course, the market's already back up from where it was on April 1st. So we're on our way back in a big way for people that lost, not lost, but saw their 401ks go down. Now they're back up. See, that didn't take long. But right now, I want to show you something. I sent this to the, the World Nuclear Association, put out their report for Q1 on March 25th. So this is fresh data.

• 58:01Tom Ellsworth?

  Scroll down to the bottom of that, all the way down, and you will see in the world, so the world right now, there are 66 nuclear reactors under construction, 85 planned, and 344 proposed. So just remember that. Okay. China has 30 under construction, 36 planned, and 158 proposed. Forty-five percent of the nuclear power coming in the world is coming out of China. Now, let's go down there. We're fighting with China. Scroll down and find the United States, Rob. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Zero, zero. Zero, zero, zero, thirteen proposed.

• 58:42Tom Ellsworth?

  That's why Google and Oracle are trying to get permits for microreactors because they're not getting help from the infrastructure, power grid, and the Department of Energy. So, do you remember, Vinnie, too, here's an easy one. Okay. A great, great question. Tom, don't go crazy numbers, but go ahead. Okay, no numbers. But do you remember when everybody was upset about TikTok in China? Why was that? Where were the servers? Where do they think the data was going? You did it again, Tom. I don't know. Did you know? That people thought the data from TikTok was going back to China. Okay. So, if you thought that was a problem, what about if we can't build the big data centers here? And the data centers are built around the world where we can't really exert control and secure them?

• 59:26Tom Ellsworth?

  That means America is using cloud services and the data centers might be elsewhere. It is a national security imperative that big data servers are built here. Just like we're trying to help, you know, Taiwan Semi build those plants in Arizona. So the chips can be here, and if China makes a move on Taiwan, we saw the chart, that there's a bunch of that here. And right now, we're in a position where all we need is about two and a half years. All we need is about two and a half years for those chip plants. So at the end of Trump's second term, if those chip plants are built, one of the things that Donald Trump can put a big W on the scoreboard

• 1:00:07Tom Ellsworth?

  is he moved so much chip manufacturing to the US from Taiwan to neutralize that China threat. Well, Doug Burgum, God bless you, I'm a big fan for real reasons, and he's out there talking about this, saying we have an energy crisis, and he's right. We need to get permits. This is not Three Mile Island nukes. These are new technologies, smaller footprint nukes, but this is what we need. And look at this. Thanks to the Greens and thanks to other lobbying, we have 13 proposed in the United States. And China, watch out, gang, is building 40% of the nuclear power currently being built and proposed in the world is being built in China.

• 1:00:51Speaker 05

  Why are we, with so those 13 proposed, why aren't they, why aren't they pulling the trigger right now? Trump is in charge.

• 1:00:56Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, I think that's exactly what's happening. They gotta get Congress behind him, but Doug Burgum is out there banging the drum, saying, hey, we gotta get going.

• 1:01:06Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 1:01:06Adam Sosnick?

  Better than the drums and the cheerleader, Tom.

• 1:01:10Tom Ellsworth?

  That's not, that's the, uh, that's the Fed.

• 1:01:13Adam Sosnick?

  Okay, yeah, that's what I'm saying, that's your own pal's job. So I'm glad that you caught the, uh, caught on to how great Doug Burgum actually is.

• 1:01:21Tom Ellsworth?

  I will credit you, I will interrupt you and say, you were behind Doug at the beginning of the campaign.

• 1:01:26Adam Sosnick?

  I was, and I'm so glad to see that Doug Burgum is part of the Trump administration. We saw him at the inauguration or at CPAC. He's awesome. Dude, he was one killer crossover away from maybe being president. You remember during the election, this guy was in an ankle braces, one of his staff crossed him over and almost dunked on him, and that lost his chances, but he showed up. You gotta give Doug, Doug, Doug, a best friend hug, no doubt. But here's the deal, he's the Secretary of the Interior. What does that even mean? Secretary of Interior, I'll tell you what it means. Here's what he's in charge of: natural resources, public lands, and water. You notice when he said that statement about what he's talking about with China, why we need to compete? He said the following: "We have to compete with the electric power grid." Oil and natural gas and minerals.

• 1:02:11Adam Sosnick?

  How many times have we heard those phrases with Ukraine, with China, with Russia, with Greenland? We're gonna make Greenland great again. Doug is very much a part of what's going on with that. He's smart, he's accomplished, but the most important thing why I like him, he's relatable. He's a good dude. He's a businessman, he's made a ton of money, and he was the governor of North Dakota. And I'm glad that he's part of the Trump administration. And if you remember one thing about when Trump came to office, when he was, I think, being interviewed by Hannity, he said, "Yeah, I'm gonna be a dictator on day one." What were the two things he said? Number one, we're gonna shut down the border. And number two, we're gonna drill, baby, drill. So Doug's in charge of that right now.

• 1:02:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, but when you think about the nuclear plants in America, Rob, if you go and type in a history of nuclear plants and how many we've built since Chernobyl, if you just type it in, there'll be a chart that'll come up. And when you see what happened and where we compare to others, Statista has a great stat on this of where we were at against them, because we stopped building. Oh, right there, the, go to the right, uh, no, no, go back to where you were at, Rob. Oh, man. Go to that, that one more down, one more down right there, the one in the yellow left. Yellow left, click on that. And, and zoom in, I think this is the one that shows how little we built.

• 1:03:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Now, go a little bit lower, okay, it's right there, zoom in. Is that the one that's shown by company, by countries? Reactor startups and shutdowns in the world, in units. Okay, so that's exactly what you want to find, except you want to find which one of them shut down in America. So reactor startups and shutdowns in the world. Just copy paste that in, and you will see, America fully stopped. Fully stopped. And others continued. And we fell behind in a big way. I don't know which one it is. But there's definitely one of them that shows the chart. Is that the one, Rob? On what America looks like. Texted Brandon to see if I have it here. Uh, is this the one? Other countries, China? Okay, this is the one.

• 1:04:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, this is the one, Rob. If you have it, he send it to us. If you can pull it up. Do you have it?

• 1:04:24Adam Sosnick?

  Yep.

• 1:04:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay. So this is what shows who construction starts of nuclear reactors in the world. Okay. See where there is where it says other countries? A lot of that is us. And look at how China doesn't start anything until eighty-four, eighty-five. Do you see how small they are? And then now look at the last twenty years. Where China is. Okay? Look how many they're building. Just in two thousand and ten. They're building ten. The rest of the world is building five. Do you see that? So if you, if you go look at the following year. The rest of the world in twenty twelve is building two. They're building three. Okay?

• 1:05:08Patrick Bet-David?

  If you look at the last couple of years, twenty-one, twenty-two, twenty-three. Out of the ten that we did in twenty-one and twenty-two. Guess what? Uh, twenty, yeah, twenty-one and twenty-two. Six is China. Four is the rest of the world. Five is China. Five is the rest of the world. And in twenty twenty-three. New nuclear reactors being built. China is five. The rest of the world. Hundred and ninety-five countries is one. One is thinking long term. The other ones are not. Now, part of this could be regulatory. Part of this could be that regulation to build one in America is so complicated that it takes years to get approval to build something like this. Part of it could be the fear. Part of it could be the when you hear the word nuclear, what do you think about?

• 1:05:52Tom Ellsworth?

  Chernobyl. Three Mile Island.

• 1:05:54Patrick Bet-David?

  That's right. That's what you think. Never again, it's gonna blow up. It's gonna do this. They're like, no. We have to go in this direction because the world needs power. So this could be another thing. What Tom talked about is very important. This could be another thing that America and other countries can rely on them for nuclear power. When there is no more energy left. Adam, your thoughts?

• 1:06:14Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, just real quick. I want to give a shout out to this one guy, Rob. I sent you this picture. This one guy actually taught me this. Uh, very recently. Uh, and it was, uh, none other than Patrick Beddavid. Uh, because you just did an entire episode about. China, I'm sorry, Pakistan and India and nuclear arsenals. But the top of the statist graphic is China is expanding their nuclear arsenal. Number one is Russia. Number two is the United States, but number three is China. And then since 2023, so the last two years, they're plus 90 in their nuclear arsenal. Whereas Russia is minus 109.

• 1:06:53Patrick Bet-David?

  This is different though.

• 1:06:53Adam Sosnick?

  Okay, explain the difference.

• 1:06:55Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, no, this is arsenal. I'm not talking arsenal. I'm talking nuclear energy. We're like, you know how we're doing in America? We do. What are the different types of energy to get? You know how they do the?

• 1:07:07Adam Sosnick?

  Wind, turbines.

• 1:07:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, those are extremely problematic. You got solar. You got all these other ways. One of the cheapest and most effective ways of doing is nuclear energy. Google's going that direction. Amazon's going that. These big companies are starting to realize, how the hell am I going to be able to host? And do all the stuff that I'm doing with different businesses that I'm running? I need nuclear power. That's what I need. Is that, is that America, by the way, what you just showed up?

• 1:07:32Adam Sosnick?

  Yes.

• 1:07:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, pull that up. That's what's scary about it. America, because of regulation, look at this. Look how many nuclear power capacity additions we had by year. Look at 70. Look at 71, 72, 6, 73, 4, 75, and 9. We kept building them, building them, building them. And then after 84, 85 Chernobyl, what, what happens? Goes all the way down to 0, 1, 0, 1. From 96 till 2015, it's zero. From 96 till today, it's zero. 2023, it's zero.

• 1:08:08Adam Sosnick?

  Okay, this, this explains things a little bit better. Cause I think I just made a mistake that many Americans make. You associate nuclear.

• 1:08:14Patrick Bet-David?

  What just happened was so perfect. It was so perfect.

• 1:08:17Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 1:08:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, it's so perfect because that's, that's, that's how I went through. Yeah. This is not my specialty. This is not what I know about, but I do know when you're sitting there as a company, you're like, hey, how much do we have to pay with hosting for this? How much do we have to? So imagine now add that to Google. Add that to Google on how many videos and all. You need energy. You need a, think about crypto. Crypto Bitcoin is ran on what? Energy, the energy that you need, the clearest, cleanest energy, by the way, look at this. The cleanest. Energy is who? Nuclear.

• 1:08:45Tom Ellsworth?

  Nuclear, interesting.

• 1:08:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Then it's geothermal, then it's natural gas, then it's hydropower, then it's coal, then it's wind, then it's solar.

• 1:08:52Tom Ellsworth?

  Wow.

• 1:08:53Patrick Bet-David?

  But we've been afraid to go there because people still are uncomfortable with the word nuclear.

• 1:08:58Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, it's a dirty word. And I looked up something else. Can we go back to that chart? That was just, that we just talked about by year? This one? Yes. What year was the Arab oil embargo? 1979 under Jimmy Carter. Reagan was elected in 80, re-elected in 84, Bush in 88, and they made alternative energy a priority after the Arab oil embargo in 1979. And take a look at that. So, when there was a crisis, America did turn to nuclear as an alternative power source. And now, we're coming on another crisis. And I think the crisis is, is bigger. I think it's data security.

• 1:09:43Tom Ellsworth?

  And I think it's having data centers in the US where we have enough power and bringing all of that home.

• 1:09:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, so this is very, very important long-term. And what Tom showed, that what China is doing versus the rest of the world, it's concerning. I'm glad Doug Burgum is in there to help out with this because it's very important for everyone else. All right, let me get to the next story here. Uh, next story I want to go to is, uh, who is John, who is John Bryan? Very interesting, what James O'Keefe just dropped, I think yesterday, if I'm not mistaken. John Bryan, royal family aide, which they call him the fixer. I don't know why they call him the fixer, but they call him the royal family fixer. He would fix a lot of different things for them. Allegedly claims Prince Andrew had sex with minors. Okay?

• 1:10:33Patrick Bet-David?

  And when you, let me read the story here. Three, four, okay. So, uh, Prince Andrew is under fresh scrutiny after his former advisor, John Bryan, was secretly filmed claiming that the Duke of York had sex with underage girls. Connected to Epstein, the video released by journalist James O'Keefe shows Brian saying Prince Andrew lied to him about his ties to Epstein and his actions. The video comes just a few days after Virginia Giuffre, who accused Epstein and Prince Andrew of abuse, was found dead on April 25th. Her death was reported on suicide, as a suicide, but her father, Sky Roberts, has publicly disputed this, saying there's no way that she did. Somebody got to John Brian, an American businessman, became widely known in 1990s

• 1:11:15Patrick Bet-David?

  for his close relationship with Sarah Ferguson, the Duchess of York. He had close ties to Queen Elizabeth II and Princess Diana, was part of the royal family's inner circle. Rob, go ahead and play this clip.

• 1:11:27Speaker 07

  Do you want the entire?

• 1:11:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Go to the, go to the main parts, Rob.

• 1:11:30Speaker 07

  I have that isolated.

• 1:11:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, go for it.

• 1:11:37Speaker 01

  I was so pissed about that. I was really pissed. I was really pissed because he lied to me about that. Epstein, yeah. No, I knew he saw him. He lied to me that he was such a close friend. I was no longer. And then I did a big thing in the Daily Mail, saying that I believed Andrew, and then I found out he was lying. I was so pissed. No, he was a big, big jerk.

• 1:12:08Speaker 05

  Girls, uh.

• 1:12:10Patrick Bet-David?

  That's not cool.

• 1:12:12Speaker 07

  Wow.

• 1:12:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you have another clip, Rob, or is that the main one?

• 1:12:14Speaker 07

  That's the main clip from the entire segment.

• 1:12:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, Vinny, thoughts?

• 1:12:18Speaker 05

  Well, first of all, I mean, it's no secret. We are, I mean, everybody knew about the, the, uh, what he was doing with Virginia Giuffre, which I'm gonna, which I'm gonna bring up here, but it, it just, look at all the timing, okay? So, James O'Keefe, which I, I, we were talking about it before the podcast. I think he's one of the, one of the most important, hardworking, all the freaking videos, all the Project Veritas videos, of him catching people saying all this stuff on camera, and not, like, some people stepped down on him, but nobody goes to, nobody, especially, a lot of the stuff was happening under Biden, but he's been around since the Acorn thing that he did with Andrew Breitbart. But it's weird because he te-

• 1:12:59Speaker 05

  that he's going dark and he's gonna bring up a bunch of this stuff apparently is gonna be coming out and then yesterday Pam Bondi comes out and she confirms that the FBI has tens of thousands of Epstein videos with kids doing god knows what is this the clip right here Robbie can we play this one

• 1:13:24Speaker 17

  no no the FBI yeah the FBI they're reviewing there are tens of thousands of videos of Epstein with children or child porn and there are hundreds of victims and no one victim will ever get released it's just the volume and that's what they're going through right now the FBI is diligently going through that I I haven't seen that statement but I'll call him later and find out

• 1:13:52Speaker 05

  okay so diligently going through guys tens of so that means Adam they have on camera which we've know that they've had them so I mind you that means the Biden administration hid apparently 14 terabytes of child torture and whatever the hell that they're going through that means they knew about it okay they knew about it they covered up they didn't say anything so you mean to tell me that they have all this footage they see these children okay I don't wanna I don't wanna expose the victims but you see these people that have been doing this stuff and what they're still walking around if you have probable cause Tom if a cop smells marijuana in your car they get to come in and they get to grab your ass and that's it that's probable cause you have footage that you guys have been monitoring and going through that's tens of thousands of hours with actual child rapists and those people are still walking around how do you not know that they're doing it Tom and I believe that nothing is going to happen and then O'Keefe drops his video he does this and isn't this random how random is this we find out about the the Prince Andrew and his his fixer talking all this crap and then Virginia Goofy the the biggest victim that came out the public victim she suicides herself do you got am I the only one that's seeing this this

• 1:15:09Speaker 05

  Weird pattern of all this stuff. And by the way, I don't see any of it. Nothing is gonna happen because she was, Pam Bondi was the Attorney General in Florida while Epstein was doing all this stuff. She had the power and the position to go after him back then, but she didn't. So we're just gonna keep getting, they're gonna keep dangling this, this, "Oh, we're looking, we're gonna get him. Four years is gonna go by, Pat." In my opinion, nothing is going to happen. And she's talking about these victims that she doesn't wanna expose. None of them are gonna get justice, Tom. None of them. That's the truth. And Pat, this is, I have to give him a shout out. He made, what he's doing, what James O'Keefe is doing, guys, and he doesn't make mainstream news. He's not, his stuff is all on X, but what he says here about what he's doing,

• 1:15:52Speaker 05

  and if the price isn't your life, then you're for sale. And I think all those people are for sale. Can we play this clip?

• 1:15:59Speaker 08

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• 1:16:29Speaker 09

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• 1:17:03Speaker 18

  Is it 20 million? Is it 100 million? What is your price? Because if your price is not your life, then you are for sale.

• 1:17:14Speaker 18

  If your price is not your life, then you are for sale.

• 1:17:21Speaker 18

  So, if you're gonna be a truth teller, your price has to be your life. I can't surround myself with people whose price is not their life. Because the enemy, whatever the enemy is, whether it be physical, legal, spiritual, will attack the vulnerability of the person who can be compromised. So you get real spiritual real fast if you're gonna do this type of work.

• 1:17:45Speaker 05

  And he's out there, and by the way, that's the first video that he has? He has multiple videos of people exposing this stuff that are these freaking demons. And I, the only person that's gonna count him accountable is God, because we're not gonna do it here.

• 1:18:00Adam Sosnick?

  Adam. Well, shout out to James O'Keefe. You know, we meet a lot of people doing what we do here. And I would say that since the day one where we had him on, when he had his book that he just came out with, it was like Muckraker. I was like, oh, I like this guy. And we kept in touch, and we hang out. He's a good buddy. But I know he's not necessarily doing Project Veritas right now. He's doing Although this was a collaboration between the two. We're gonna figure out what that means. But shout out to O'Keefe. This is a guy who, I mean, literally, probably has to sleep with one eye open for what he does every on a daily basis. But man, he does good work. Now, this guy, John Bryan, his job is being a fixer. Now, I'm thinking, where have I heard this term fixer before? Yeah, you've heard it. You ever see the movie Pulp Fiction? When the guy,

• 1:18:43Adam Sosnick?

  Harvey Keitel shows up, he's Winston Wolfe. And he goes, what are you doing here? Oh, me? Don't worry about that. Do what I gotta say. What do I do? I solve problems. And that's what he does. So when you hear the word fixer, think of the following things. They're problem solvers. They're also spin doctors. They also are sort of cleanup experts. If you saw Pulp Fiction, they had to clean up that mess in the car, if you know what I'm saying. Crisis management, damage control, discreet solutions, PR strategists and reputation manager is what he does. Who utilizes people like this? Well, obviously royalty, politicians, high net worth individuals, CEOs, athletes, celebrities. And why do they use these people? Because they made an oopsie and they gotta clean it up.

• 1:19:28Speaker 05

  But what?

• 1:19:28Adam Sosnick?

  So we've seen Michael Clayton, I think that was a Clooney. We've seen Ray Donovan, Leif Shriver. We've seen in real life, who was a fixer? Who was Trump's fixer back in the day? A guy named Michael Cohen. And then we saw where that relationship went.

• 1:19:44Speaker 05

  Right, right.

• 1:19:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Both of them.

• 1:19:45Speaker 05

  Well, yeah, Michael, yeah, you're right.

• 1:19:46Adam Sosnick?

  So, bottom line here, I agree with Vinnie. Prince Andrew was up to no good and he hired this fixer to clean up his mess. And now the fixer got caught on camera.

• 1:19:56Speaker 05

  But isn't it, it's insane to me that, and Tom, I know you gotta say something. It's, besides him saying, besides the fixer and all this stuff that we already knew. Imagine how powerful these freaking pedophiles are that it's getting slow walked and we're gonna promise you it's gonna come. Cash Patel right now was just in front of, who's the Kennedy, the older, the older congressman? He's like, yeah, we're just taking our time.

• 1:20:20Adam Sosnick?

  John Kennedy?

• 1:20:20Speaker 05

  Yeah, we're taking our time. We're gonna release it. And it seems to me like the most powerful people to where even the president cannot just release it. They can't release it. They're in, they're in the most powerful positions in our government and in the world. Because Prince Andrew, this guy, Pat, so mind you, she said, Virginia, Virginia Gruffey said that he, he slept with her multiple times. And then that there was multiple girls in there where he was going back to back to back to back. And this guy's admitting on camera, but she doesn't know that he's on camera. He's like, oh, he was sleeping with multiple underage girls. And what's gonna happen to Prince Andrew? That's an indictment. He's saying, he's giving you proof. This guy's not lying. He doesn't even know he's on camera. I just think it's absolutely ridiculous.

• 1:21:04Patrick Bet-David?

  What is this part with Senator Kennedy?

• 1:21:05Speaker 05

  Is this today, Rob?

• 1:21:06Speaker 07

  Yes, this was posted 15 minutes ago on Twitter.

• 1:21:08Speaker 05

  Play this.

• 1:21:09Speaker 19

  Did Jeffrey Epstein hang himself or did somebody kill him? Uh oh.

• 1:21:13Speaker 20

  Senator, I believe he hung himself in a cell in the Metropolitan Detention Center.

• 1:21:17Speaker 05

  Really?

• 1:21:19Speaker 19

  Are you gonna release all the information about that?

• 1:21:22Speaker 20

  Senator, we are working through that right now with the Department of Justice.

• 1:21:25Speaker 19

  When you think you'll have it done, Cash?

• 1:21:28Speaker 20

  I think in the, uh, in the near future, sir.

• 1:21:30Adam Sosnick?

  That near future, what a vague-

• 1:21:32Speaker 19

  Like before I die?

• 1:21:34Speaker 20

  Senator, we are, um, we are, we've, we've been working on that and, um, we're doing it in a way that protects, um, victims and also doesn't, uh, put out into the ether, uh, information that is, um,

• 1:21:54Speaker 20

  irrelevant for, uh, production of the public such as-

• 1:21:57Speaker 05

  Hold on, hold on, hold on. He's the same guy that said on day one, "I was gonna shut down the J. Edgar Hoover Building" and do all this nonsense. And now it's saying, "In the near future." I don't believe, I don't believe it.

• 1:22:09Adam Sosnick?

  Well, because let me tell you something-

• 1:22:10Speaker 05

  Don't make promises, Adam, because I, Adam, because I, it's for a fact. Leave the victims out. I don't wanna hear one victim's name. If you're looking at footage with your eyes of grown men raping young underage women, arrest them. Go get them. How do you know that they're not still doing it right now? Because, by the way, Epstein's island was closed, Tom. Those guys, pedophiles, that urge doesn't take a vacation. They're still out there doing it. Okay? They're making more victims while they're gonna, "In the near future, we're gonna slow walk it." That's horse shit. Sorry for my language.

• 1:22:41Adam Sosnick?

  Can I tell you what happened?

• 1:22:42Speaker 05

  Hmm.

• 1:22:43Adam Sosnick?

  Listen, as I always say-

• 1:22:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Wait, wait, wait, wait, give me a second.

• 1:22:45Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 1:22:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, do you have that clip?

• 1:22:49Speaker 19

  Yes.

• 1:22:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, you have it right there, by the way. You have it right there.

• 1:22:52Speaker 19

  Right here.

• 1:22:53Patrick Bet-David?

  I think that's the one. Can you play that?

• 1:22:55Speaker 20

  Declassification office, whatever you wanna call it. Transparency, truth, whatever, I don't care. Sits in the White House, reports directly to you, and you take incoming from the United States of America. "I want JFK. I want the 9/11 files. I want this. I want that." All the FBI, and this is a tool, uh, this is something we didn't cover-

• 1:23:15Speaker 21

  What the deep state uses the most to cover up their corruption is an illegal application of the classification system. Remember the lovebirds texts from, this is a beauty. The lovebirds texts from FBI DOJ land, Russiagate struck and page were texting.

• 1:23:32Speaker 07

  Yes, I, I believe he says it somewhere in this clip. It's just a two minute and 21 second clip.

• 1:23:36Speaker 21

  Each other, who they were running the Russiagate investigation against Trump. They were the head of the counterintelligence unit at the FBI and they're having an extramarital affair together. Can't make this stuff up. They're sending each other texts about how much they hate Trump and are going to create an insurance policy to stop Trump. Then we finally find those. But it gets even better. Here's the deep state full circle. Just last week.

• 1:24:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Fast forward.

• 1:24:01Speaker 21

  iPhones. And the DOJ just rewarded them.

• 1:24:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Fast forward.

• 1:24:06Speaker 21

  Deputy Director of National Intelligence. And the world has now seen them and they can read them. And that's the best form of transparency. That's why I want this 24/7 declassification office. Don't have me regurgitated to you. Read it. Get the documents, get the files, get the memos. But the deep state came full circle and gave these guys a payday for rigging a presidential election and breaking the law.

• 1:24:26Patrick Bet-David?

  No, this isn't it, Rob. There's one that he says on day one.

• 1:24:30Speaker 05

  I'm going to shut down the Hoover building, right? And turn it into a museum.

• 1:24:34Patrick Bet-David?

  See if this is the one, the one that you have in text. See if that's the one or it's the same exact one as the other one. Is that the same exact?

• 1:24:42Speaker 07

  I think that's the same one.

• 1:24:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, but there was a, uh, uh.

• 1:24:46Speaker 05

  And which one was it? They're going to shut down the Hoover building back?

• 1:24:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:24:50Speaker 05

  I remember that. And, and, and all of them, all of them gave us these promises and it's not being kept and it drives me freaking bananas.

• 1:24:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, Adam, what are we going to say and then he's going to look for it?

• 1:25:00Adam Sosnick?

  Well, look, you know, as always say, you have to campaign in poetry and govern in prose. Now, what does that actually mean in this regard? When you're vying for a job, whether it's President of the United States, whether it's the head of the FBI, whether that's any sort of political task that you're looking to do, you're going to say things that are going to trigger people's emotions. You're going to rile people up. You're going to, uh, you know, sell them the dream. You're going to maybe even sell them the nightmare. You're going to make promises that maybe you can't keep sometimes. Cause sometimes when you actually get the job, you actually have to govern or you actually have to go through the practical execution of the job or you actually, reality slaps you in the face. So in my opinion, I know nothing about what's going on here. Cash has all these things. When I get there, we're gonna shut down the FBI.

• 1:25:44Adam Sosnick?

  Jack, this is what I'm gonna do. And then he gets the job and he sits at the desk and they go, "Do you wanna know what's really going on, buddy? Cause you've never sat in this seat." And he has his people that he trusts and he goes, "Okay, yeah." "Well, here's what's going on."

• 1:25:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Is that it, Rob?

• 1:25:58Speaker 07

  There's a montage of him saying day one.

• 1:26:00Adam Sosnick?

  And he's gonna say this. Can I finish this? He's gonna say, "Holy crap. I had no idea that was what's going on." Turns out, maybe I shouldn't say what I thought I was going to say.

• 1:26:12Speaker 05

  If you're pricing your life, then you're for sale. Because guess what? I don't give a shit, Adam. When it comes to kids and rape and...

• 1:26:18Adam Sosnick?

  I'm just saying, that's easy for you to say.

• 1:26:20Speaker 05

  No, it's not easy for me to say. Because I'm not gonna talk about it and not be about it.

• 1:26:23Adam Sosnick?

  The wizard of oz, when you go behind that curtain and you're like, "Damn."

• 1:26:26Speaker 05

  I don't care.

• 1:26:27Adam Sosnick?

  And someone says, "Hold on. If you say this..."

• 1:26:30Speaker 05

  Yeah. No, Adam, when it comes to kids, I don't play that shit.

• 1:26:33Adam Sosnick?

  This is more than just kids.

• 1:26:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Play the clip, Rob.

• 1:26:35Speaker 21

  Well, they have seen Black Book, like, on day one. On day one? Roll out the Black Book. Where is it?

• 1:26:42Speaker 22

  So will you work with me on this issue? So we know who worked with Jeffrey Epstein in building these sex trafficking rings?

• 1:26:52Speaker 21

  Absolutely, Senator. Child sex trafficking has no place in the United States of America. And I will do everything, if confirmed as FBI Director, to make sure the American public knows the full weight of what happened in the past.

• 1:27:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you do me a favor and go back to the interview with him and Kennedy? The other Kennedy? Yeah, go back and, uh... The one you just played, Rob.

• 1:27:14Speaker 21

  Right there.

• 1:27:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Play that one more time. And this is what? This is today?

• 1:27:19Speaker 07

  I believe this was yesterday. It was just posted about 22 minutes ago.

• 1:27:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Go for it.

• 1:27:25Speaker 19

  Did Jeffrey Epstein hang himself, or did somebody kill him?

• 1:27:29Speaker 21

  Senator, I believe he hung himself in a cell in the Metropolitan Attention Center.

• 1:27:35Speaker 19

  Are you gonna release all the information about that?

• 1:27:38Speaker 21

  Senator, we are working through that right now with the Department of Justice.

• 1:27:41Speaker 19

  When you think you'll have it done, Cash?

• 1:27:44Speaker 21

  I think in the, uh, in the near future, sir.

• 1:27:47Speaker 19

  Like, before I die?

• 1:27:50Speaker 20

  Senator, we are, we are, we've been working on that and we're doing it in a way that protects

• 1:28:00Speaker 20

  victims and also doesn't put out into the ether information that is

• 1:28:10Speaker 20

  irrelevant.

• 1:28:12Adam Sosnick?

  What does that mean?

• 1:28:12Speaker 05

  What is information that's irrelevant?

• 1:28:14Adam Sosnick?

  That's the point. That's when you go behind the curtain, you're like, oh.

• 1:28:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Go to the Blaze one, Rob. The Blaze, the other one that you have. Go to the Blaze one. And then this is, this is me leading into, into something else. Uh, if you can just play the Blaze one that the guys just sent. Glenn Beck, yeah, that one.

• 1:28:33Speaker 23

  Has Jeffrey Epstein's.

• 1:28:35Speaker 21

  Black Book?

• 1:28:36Speaker 23

  Black Book.

• 1:28:36Speaker 21

  FBI.

• 1:28:38Speaker 23

  But who? That is, that, that, I mean, there's.

• 1:28:42Speaker 21

  That's under direct control of the director of the FBI.

• 1:28:45Adam Sosnick?

  That's him.

• 1:28:46Speaker 21

  Just like the manifesto from the Nashville, Nashville school shooting of the Catholic schools. We still haven't seen that, right? It's not the Nashville police or PD saying, we don't want this out. The FBI airmailed into that operation and said, this is not getting out.

• 1:29:01Adam Sosnick?

  What's the date of that, Rob?

• 1:29:02Speaker 21

  Because they do that because they, this is another government gangster operation. All these local law enforcement communities get funding. November 11th, I'm sorry, November 30th, 2024. If you don't cooperate, you're not getting your million dollars for this and you're not getting your, and that's a lot of money to these local districts. That's how they play the game. That's why you don't have the Black Book.

• 1:29:20Speaker 23

  So, but the Black Book, it's not just sitting, I mean, that's, that's Hoover power times 10.

• 1:29:29Speaker 21

  And, and to me, that's a thing I think President Trump should run on. On day one, roll out the Black Book.

• 1:29:37Adam Sosnick?

  Pat, can I ask you?

• 1:29:38Speaker 21

  And not just that, on day one, roll out all of the text messaging communications we, we were told were deleted. On day one, play the rest of the video of the pipe bomber. On day, you know, he need, one of the reforms I talk about in government gangsters is you need a central node to be continued.

• 1:29:52Adam Sosnick?

  Government gangster.

• 1:29:53Speaker 05

  It's been over three months, so nothing, nothing has happened.

• 1:29:55Adam Sosnick?

  Well, so, I don't want to speculate, I want to ask Pat your opinion, because this is something you probably studied way more than me. November, we're rolling it out, day one, this is what's happening. Now, he got confirmed, I believe, in February, he's one of the closest confirmations ever, 5149. I think it was two Republican senators that were like, no, and. Finally got confirmed. What goes through someone like Cash's mind when they actually peel the curtain back and they go, "Oh, let me walk this back a little bit." What do you think?

• 1:30:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, so to me, it's only two reasons why they're not releasing this. Okay, it's really, it's only two. I don't see a third. Tom, you're a pretty, uh, technical guy. And I know.

• 1:30:34Adam Sosnick?

  Well, there's-

• 1:30:35Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, hang on, let me, let me say my thoughts.

• 1:30:37Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, sorry.

• 1:30:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. There's only two reasons why this is happening. One is because somebody on the team is on the list that they have a lot of stuff on. Or, number two, this is the way they're getting a lot of things done because they can hold a lot of people hostage and blackmail.

• 1:30:56Adam Sosnick?

  Gotcha.

• 1:30:57Patrick Bet-David?

  That's it. I can't add a third. What's the third? So, if you look at Cash, she's so good with words, right? And this is the difference between politicians and statesmen. But I also understand that Trump understands power. And do you think Trump knows who's on that list?

• 1:31:15Adam Sosnick?

  I think Trump knows, uh, more than Cash.

• 1:31:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so Trump knows who's on that list. Do you think Trump has experience knowing what it is to hold people hostage, blackmail, New York coming up, you know, whether they did it to him or he did it to others or people that he knew? Do you think he has experience with that?

• 1:31:33Adam Sosnick?

  Infinite experience.

• 1:31:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, perfect. So, I don't know. I think to me, it's like, hey, let me tell you, we got some stuff on prime ministers. We got some stuff on presidents. We got some stuff on real powerful people around the world, some billionaires. Why give up that control? Why give up that asset? Let's use it to control it. Now, that's the mindset of somebody that runs the free world. You don't think like everybody else. If a lion could speak, you could not understand him, right? Then there is everybody else who to you, the value is what? Listen, they did this to kids. I have zero tolerance for that. I fully understand that. Fully get it. I want to know who's on that list. I want to know who's on that list.

• 1:32:18Patrick Bet-David?

  I want to know what happened with 9/11. I want to know what happened with the moon landing. I want to know what hap- I want to know. I want to know. I want to know. But, um, and then let me, let me show you another weird tweet that just came out. Who was the VP candidate for RF Kennedy Jr.?

• 1:32:36Speaker 05

  Shanahan.

• 1:32:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Did you hear what she said yesterday? Rob, can you pull up the tweet of what she just said yesterday?

• 1:32:41Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:32:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Very weird, folks.

• 1:32:42Speaker 05

  Oh, really?

• 1:32:43Patrick Bet-David?

  You, you haven't seen it?

• 1:32:44Speaker 05

  I haven't seen it.

• 1:32:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. Rob, pull up this clip here. Do you know which one it is? Yep, I have it right here. So watch this. This is such a weird tweet. This is Nicole Shanahan. Can you verify that it's her account? Go on her account. Okay, how many followers? That's her account. Yes, I checked. Okay, go back. Now let's read the tweet. Yes, it's very strange. Doesn't make any sense. I was promised that if I supported RFK Jr., in a Senate confirmation that neither of these siblings

• 1:33:09Patrick Bet-David?

  would be working under HHS or in an appointment, and that people much more qualified would be. I don't know if RFK very clearly lied to me or what is going on. It has been clear in recent conversation that he is reporting to someone regularly who is controlling his decisions, and it isn't President Trump. With regards to the siblings, there is something very artificial and aggressive about them, almost like they were bred and raised Manchurian assets.

• 1:33:34Speaker 05

  What?

• 1:33:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Nicole Shanahan.

• 1:33:35Speaker 05

  And what is she talking about?

• 1:33:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Talking about the new person that got the job. So click on that. So Dr. Jack Cruz tried to tell us Mary Tally Bowen was on a podcast too. She knows the deal with means. Let's see how this pans out. I can't help but think this is a very carefully groomed and selected person. Just about no clinical experience, talks a great game and everything but vaccines, feels all wrong. Why? There are so many better choices. Click on that, and this is the appointment of Dr. Casey to be the next Surgeon General, which Laura Loomer

• 1:34:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Post something about the fact that she doesn't even have her license active as of last November of 2024, January of 2024, I believe. And

• 1:34:19Adam Sosnick?

  She said something to the effect of disappointed in Team Trump. Something to that effect. For Laura Loomer to say that?

• 1:34:25Speaker 05

  Well, he was supposed to go somewhere else.

• 1:34:27Adam Sosnick?

  You know that she feels some type of way.

• 1:34:28Speaker 05

  There was another nominee, it was a female, correct? And then they did this last minute. He didn't pick the girl that he was supposed to get.

• 1:34:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Now, Casey Means, real first name Paula, only recently started going by her name Casey. She moved to Oregon, completed her residency, but decided to drop out on her final year. Now she doesn't even have an active medical license. Trump appoints her as U.S. Surgeon General today. Something just isn't adding up. Why would you go by a different name your whole life and then randomly decide to start going by Casey once you become a social media influencer? Dr. Paula Means, I don't know. I don't know. So

• 1:35:00Adam Sosnick?

  Who's her sibling? She said nominated these siblings. Didn't she say that in the first sentence?

• 1:35:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, if you type, what is the relation?

• 1:35:09Adam Sosnick?

  Her brother is Cali Means, an entrepreneur and health policy advocate.

• 1:35:14Patrick Bet-David?

  What does he work for?

• 1:35:15Adam Sosnick?

  Who is 40 years old.

• 1:35:16Speaker 05

  Does he work for any pharmaceutical companies or anything like that?

• 1:35:20Adam Sosnick?

  Together, the Means siblings co-authored the 2024 book Good Energy: The Surprising Connection Between Metabolism and Limitless Health, which critiques the U.S. healthcare system and emphasizes the role of metabolic health in preventing chronic diseases. Okay. They've been influential figures in the Maha movement, advising Health and Human Services Secretary RFK on health policy. Their advocacy focuses on promoting whole food diets, reducing processed food consumption, and addressing lifestyle factors contributing to chronic illness. Okay. I would wonder why this was RFK's running mate. I think she donated how much money to the campaign? 20 million?

• 1:36:02Adam Sosnick?

  If not more, does anybody have more insight in what RFK is doing than his running mate? And for her to basically look at this decision and say, what is going on here?

• 1:36:10Speaker 05

  Manchurian candidate, that's a strong-

• 1:36:12Adam Sosnick?

  That's a very strong allegation.

• 1:36:14Patrick Bet-David?

  The fine word of Manchurian candidate.

• 1:36:16Speaker 05

  Manchurian candidate.

• 1:36:16Patrick Bet-David?

  I just watched it a month and a half ago with the kids.

• 1:36:18Speaker 05

  It's when they use like that MKUltra brainwashing stuff to have people under their control. They could hire you to be an assassin and the assassin could do the hit and then come out of it and not know anything that they did with any recollection or any knowledge of it. It's that brainwashing stuff that we watch, even that movie, in the movie. Actually, they did do a movie about it, but Chaos, where the CIA uses, you know, drugs and all mind altering stuff with psychiatrists to make you lose your freaking mind and lose all self-control and you become a freaking, a hitman for them.

• 1:36:47Tom Ellsworth?

  That's one type. The other type is you simply create a candidate who is going to work against the state, the country for which you get elected. And behind the scenes, that person is a very bad person, but out in front, they're groomed for it without brainwashing. So you're right, there's two, couple of ways to create a Manchurian candidate. One is, you know, basically a spy that you groom all the way up so that they could get elected somewhere. And then they're working on things that not in the favor of the country or the city that they're elected to.

• 1:37:19Speaker 05

  Yep.

• 1:37:20Adam Sosnick?

  I think it's important to point out, we don't know anything about them. This is not our-

• 1:37:22Speaker 05

  No.

• 1:37:23Adam Sosnick?

  We're commenting on what other people have said.

• 1:37:25Speaker 05

  Oh yeah, and then Trump first picked-

• 1:37:27Tom Ellsworth?

  No, this is Nicole Santahan used the term Manchurian candidate.

• 1:37:30Speaker 05

  Yeah, Rob, you ready for this? So Trump's first pick was Dr. Jeanette Neshewat. But after questions came up about her medical credentials and her past support for COVID vaccines, he pulled her nomination and went with Casey Means.

• 1:37:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, this is the announcement the president's making.

• 1:37:46Speaker 07

  Yes, he just went live about a minute ago. Here I can pull it up.

• 1:37:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Go for it.

• 1:37:50Speaker 10

  Products produced by our great farmers and our secretary, as you know, of agriculture is here, Brooke. Thank you very much. Thank you. It's a good day. Thank you, sir. You'll let the farmers know. In addition, the UK will reduce or eliminate numerous non-tariff barriers that unfairly discriminated against American products. But this is now turning out, I think, really to be a great deal for both countries because it'll be really great for the UK also. So they're opening up the country. Their country is a little closed and we appreciate that.

• 1:38:24Speaker 10

  They'll also be fast-tracking American goods through their customs process or exports United Kingdom. To a very, very quick form of approval and there won't be any red tape. Things are going to move very quickly, both ways. The final details are being written up in the coming weeks. We'll have it all very conclusive, but the actual deal is a very conclusive one. We think just about everything's been approved. So good for both countries and we'll also receive new market access for American chemicals, machinery and many other industrial products that weren't allowed. And they'll end up getting products that they'll be able to price and if they like them better and we make great products, they'll be buying those products, but they were not

• 1:39:09Speaker 10

  available in the UK. Furthermore, in a historic step, the deal includes plans that will bring the United Kingdom into the economic security alignment with the United States. That's the first of its kind. So we have a big economic security blanket and that's very important and we feel very, very comfortable with that because it's been a great ally, truly one of our great allies. A lot of people say our greatest ally, I don't want to insult people by saying that, but I can say it's certainly one of our greatest and right at the top and they're the first one we're talking about. And by the way, we have many meetings planned today and tomorrow and every country wants to be making deals.

• 1:39:52Speaker 10

  And we have a meeting, as you know, Scott, will be going over to Switzerland on Saturday and that'll be very, very interesting. We'll just find out, but I think they want to make a deal very badly too. Both countries have agreed that the economic security is national secured and will be working together as allies to ensure that we have a strong industrial base, appropriate export controls and protections for key technologies and industries like steel. Steel is a big factor. Both countries will become stronger with steel and things necessary for military. You know, we used to build ships and other things, literally at a level that nobody's ever seen and we haven't, we've eased up and I would say that the UK certainly eased up, but now we're going to be uneasing both and we work together.

• 1:40:38Speaker 10

  Once again, I want to thank Prime Minister Starmer. He's been terrific for his partnership in this matter, the special relationship and external bond. It's really an external and an internal bond between our two countries will soon be stronger than ever before. And we really do, we have a great relationship. I want to just say that the representatives of UK have been so professional and it's been an honor doing business with all of them and in particular, the Prime Minister.

• 1:41:05Patrick Bet-David?

  We can pause. So I just looked up right now what the levies are. Okay, so the key highlights. Tariff reductions, the agreement aims to lower tariffs that were previously imposed by US, including a 10% levy on British imports and a 25% tariff on steel, aluminum, and automobiles. These reductions are expected to benefit key UK industries, particularly automotive and the manufacturing sectors. Digital service tax, UK has agreed to review its 2% digital service tax, which affects major US tech companies. This move is seen as a step towards easing tensions over digital trade and fostering better relations in tech sector. And then the UK has maintained food safety standards, opting not to lower

• 1:41:49Patrick Bet-David?

  regulations to allow imports of products like chlorinated chicken and hormone-treated beef from US. Interesting. So they've not done anything with that. And I don't know how the market has reacted. Tom, I'm assuming you've looked at the market. What is it showing? Let's see what the market is saying.

• 1:42:06Tom Ellsworth?

  No big spike, but we're

• 1:42:08Adam Sosnick?

  Market's all green today.

• 1:42:10Tom Ellsworth?

  It's all green, but we're not a giant spike. But so therefore, the market is either likes it, or put it this way, the market doesn't dislike it because the market didn't drop and it's and everything's up green.

• 1:42:22Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, every indicator I'm looking at, the Dow, the S and P, NASDAQ, NYSE, the Russell 2000, Bitcoin's up, Ethereum, the VIX is pretty flat.

• 1:42:31Patrick Bet-David?

  How big of an announcement is this, Tom?

• 1:42:32Tom Ellsworth?

  I think, so by itself, a dollar value, it's not as big as, say, India would be. But it's a big announcement to say, I got a deal done, and now we're gonna paper it. And that there's enough in there that they're speaking about. Also, you heard in there between the lines, he said, and we're gonna take down some blocks on industry so that US products can be sold over there. And they can price it, and if the people of the, of the UK like it, then, you know, folks in England, Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland can, can buy stuff. So I would say, on a one to 10 impact, this is about a seven or eight.

• 1:43:15Tom Ellsworth?

  But on influence, this is an 11.

• 1:43:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Why?

• 1:43:19Tom Ellsworth?

  Because it's, it's a done deal. It's, it is a, it's a trade deal that's done. It says that the team has got it, and it's gonna influence the completion of other trade deals, and it's good news. And I think the market kind of expected it. The market didn't drop on it. The market didn't spike, so the market likes what it, what it heard. And I think, when you look at all these things, it is, look, we're flirting with 5,700, and we're above where we were on April 1st. So now we're at the next tier. The next tier is to get, is to get back to 6,000 in the market, and we're really close. So I think this is really good. This is a, this is, the influence of this announcement is really big.

• 1:44:03Tom Ellsworth?

  Look, if we got the deal done with the UK, let's get the deal done with you.

• 1:44:08Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, okay. Yeah, I think this is a, you know, top 10, top 15 deal to be done. This isn't a top three, top five. I mean, they're an ally, they're a strategic partner, but it's not like we just did a deal with China, or even Canada for that matter.

• 1:44:24Tom Ellsworth?

  But it's a notch.

• 1:44:25Adam Sosnick?

  It's a win.

• 1:44:26Tom Ellsworth?

  It's a win.

• 1:44:26Adam Sosnick?

  It's another notch on his belt.

• 1:44:27Tom Ellsworth?

  It's starting.

• 1:44:28Adam Sosnick?

  But not a top five.

• 1:44:29Patrick Bet-David?

  And we're taking off the tariffs we put in place.

• 1:44:31Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah. It's, it's, it's a win for Trump, and kudos to you for getting this done.

• 1:44:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, well, let's see.

• 1:44:38Adam Sosnick?

  What are your thoughts, PBD?

• 1:44:39Patrick Bet-David?

  I mean, you know, it's good, but, like I said, it's not a top.

• 1:44:42Adam Sosnick?

  You're not impressed?

• 1:44:43Patrick Bet-David?

  No, I think it's good. You need stories, which is great. They, they need stories, but.

• 1:44:47Tom Ellsworth?

  It was a major announcement.

• 1:44:48Patrick Bet-David?

  No, it's not something that, you know, UK is not, there's nothing with UK that we're like, oh my God, we really need UK for this, or we really need them, no. I think Mexico, Canada, China, India, you know, those are probably in the top five. Say top seven, whatever, but I would say top five. I don't know. I don't know, Tom. You seem like you want to say something.

• 1:45:10Tom Ellsworth?

  My closing point is, let's take a look at the market for the last week. The market's been damn stable last week and just sitting there like 5620, 5630. Nice and stable. Look at it for the last week. I'm, I'm, by the way, that I'm quoting the S and P and.

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• 1:46:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, you can't take a seven second break.

• 1:46:30Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, it's.

• 1:46:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, can you do me a favor? Go to, go to the clip I sent you.

• 1:46:34Tom Ellsworth?

  No, the point I'm making is.

• 1:46:35Patrick Bet-David?

  That I sent you about CNN getting upset about the fact that they, they're upset that tariffs won't be passed on consumers where, uh, what's her name? She does a phenomenal job explaining this on CNN. It's almost as if they're upset that the market is back up where it was before. Do you see the clips in the notes?

• 1:46:52Tom Ellsworth?

  Completely.

• 1:46:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, if you don't have it up.

• 1:46:55Speaker 07

  Yeah. Is it the Batya clip?

• 1:46:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes, that's the.

• 1:46:57Speaker 07

  Yep, I have it.

• 1:46:58Tom Ellsworth?

  She's crushing it.

• 1:46:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. If you can play this clip, this is so interesting, guys. Watch this here. CNN is upset that the market is recovering and all of a sudden they're becoming supportive of big corporate America and the guy has to change, change himself. No, no, no, I'm not saying that. I'm not saying that, but, but go ahead. They got caught again. Go, go for it, Rob.

• 1:47:16Speaker 24

  S and P 500, the Dow Jones, all up today. They've recovered everything that they lost since Liberation Day. Look at her face. Things are actually going really, really well. This whole thing about GM, the CEO saying that there's going to be, there's going to be a $5 billion cost to the tariffs. But she also said something very important. She said, "This will not be passed on to the consumer." So where is it going to come from, you might wonder? Well, they brought down their projections.

• 1:47:41Speaker 25

  Not all of it will be.

• 1:47:42Speaker 24

  No, she said, "None of it will be passed on to the consumer, but this will come out of the profits." They projected 14 billion profits. They're taking that projection down to 10 billion. This is what we want.

• 1:47:53Speaker 25

  Okay, but wait, wait, wait.

• 1:47:54Speaker 24

  This is what we want. We want tariffs.

• 1:47:56Speaker 25

  So you want.

• 1:47:57Speaker 24

  We want manufacturing. We want the billionaires to pay their fair share. And we want the cost not to be passed on to the consumers. And that's what we're seeing.

• 1:48:04Speaker 25

  I just.

• 1:48:05Speaker 24

  Such a great example.

• 1:48:06Speaker 25

  Hold on, let me just, let me just try to understand this. So GM's profits will decrease probably significantly as a result of this. Let's take that.

• 1:48:14Speaker 24

  I'm telling you what they said.

• 1:48:15Speaker 25

  I know, I'm just, I'm just saying, okay, let's take that as a good. Zero to Republican in seven seconds. What do you think is going to happen when GM's profits suddenly drop? What will happen to GM and the people that work there?

• 1:48:25Speaker 24

  The CEO herself, Mary Barra, thanked President Trump for this because she is a patriot. And she understands that the situation we're in with China is not sustainable.

• 1:48:36Speaker 25

  Shareholders would like to have a word.

• 1:48:37Speaker 24

  We sold out our future to China. Somebody had to do something about that.

• 1:48:41Speaker 01

  So the corporation's going to take less money. They're going to eat the profits out of the sense of patriotism.

• 1:48:47Speaker 24

  It's so great to hear Democrats suddenly being so, you know, pro-corporation and.

• 1:48:50Speaker 01

  No, no, no, no, no. I'm not being pro-corporation. I'm actually being pro-people. Because what's bad for the corporation is going to be bad for the worker. Now, look, I couldn't care less about. I'm like, no. Listen, listen. I'll be honest with you. I'll be honest with you. I couldn't care less about any of the corporations. Corporation for people, my friend.

• 1:49:06Patrick Bet-David?

  You're working for a corporation.

• 1:49:07Tom Ellsworth?

  Except for one on your paycheck, dude.

• 1:49:08Speaker 01

  It is, it is, it is. But look, but I couldn't care.

• 1:49:10Patrick Bet-David?

  This show is so.

• 1:49:11Speaker 01

  I couldn't care about any of the corporations that were just listed.

• 1:49:15Patrick Bet-David?

  You can pause it right there. Well, what's great about the fact that, you know, you keep talking, talking, talking, talking, talking, boom, you find a contradiction. And I have to backtrack and go back to saying, well, that was kind of a good idea. But no, no, no, no, I'm going to now support the big corporations when I see something like this. So Tom, you were saying, I think, what she was saying. So what are your thoughts when you see her comments there?

• 1:49:33Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, I think CNN should become DNN, the disingenuous news network. Ooh. Because I think that's completely disingenuous. She exposed herself. She took all the credibility out of herself, you know, as a host with her statements. And I'm not picking on her personally. What she said was completely disingenuous. Oh, and now you care about the corporations. Well, let me tell you something, madam. There are union contracts that control wages for the workers. So the people that are hurt are, in fact, the shareholders. They're the ones that will be hurt because without the profits there, Jim's it. But guess what? This is going to be a short-term thing because it's up to... Mary Barra did not say, "I'm making my quarterly announcement and I have 14 versus...

• 1:50:18Tom Ellsworth?

  Excuse me, 10 versus 14 billion." That's not what she said. She said, "Potentially, but we're not raising the prices to the consumer." Because you know why she had to do it? You know why Mary Barra had to do that? Because of a guy named Jim Farley, the CEO of Ford, who's in a better position than GM is on helping more people in America work in America because Ford makes more in America than GM. So capitalism works because a guy named Farley doing the right thing at Ford just forced Mary Barra to move on the chessboard and say, "I'm not raising prices to the American consumer." And guess who wins? The American consumer wins. And guess what? This whole program that we're trying to get leveling and more fairness around the world, that wins. And then who loses?

• 1:51:02Tom Ellsworth?

  CNN, looking for bad news headlines, trying to find a way to pick on Trump, trying to find a way to do it, and basically stepping over their own feet here. That's what I think. Welcome, DNN, the disingenuous news network.

• 1:51:17Adam Sosnick?

  I just want to give a quick shout out to Batya. She was on the show, I want to say, two years ago, PBD?

• 1:51:21Tom Ellsworth?

  Yep.

• 1:51:22Adam Sosnick?

  Batya Ungar Sargon. I've seen her with you on Pierce Morgan.

• 1:51:25Tom Ellsworth?

  I'm not talking about her, I'm talking about the...

• 1:51:26Adam Sosnick?

  She is on fire these days. Now, why is she on fire of all people? It's because she's a former classic liberal who basically saw what was happening, going on, and she used her brain and she used common sense to say, "What the hell is going on right here?" So she's written a couple of books. Bad News of How Woke Media Is Undermining Democracy. That was in 2021, I believe, when she came on the show. That was what she was talking about. But her latest book is How the Elites Have Betrayed America's Working Men and Women. So she talks about what we've done in the manufacturing, how we basically gutted out our manufacturing and sold to China. She criticizes the woke progressive left, just like she criticizes the corporate elites on the right.

• 1:52:11Adam Sosnick?

  And something happens when you just use common sense and you don't, you're not tied to any political party. People are going to get very upset with you. And I hope she pisses off a lot more people because she's speaking common sense to insane people.

• 1:52:23Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't think she's going to stop anytime soon. I think she's doing a great job. It's a lot of common sense and it's great to see that taking place. Okay, let's go to the next story here. Rob, if you can pull up Trump getting ready to announce to call the Persian Gulf Arabian Gulf. And this has been leaked all over the place. He is getting ready to announce this upcoming Saudi Arabia visit that the US will refer to the Persian Gulf as the Arabian Gulf of Arabia or Gulf of Arabia. Following his earlier renaming of Gulf of Mexico to Gulf of America, reported as Associated Press, with US officials, Trump teased a significant announcement. Rob, if this is it, Rob, go for it and play it.

• 1:53:07Speaker 10

  They're going to ask me about that when I get there and I'll have to make a decision.

• 1:53:10Adam Sosnick?

  So you're going to make a decision?

• 1:53:11Speaker 10

  I don't want to hurt anybody's feelings. I don't know if feelings are going to be hurt. Why have a case right over here? It's called Gulf of America. And I guess a lot of people get ideas from us. But the Gulf of America was something I thought should have been named a long time ago. I'm going to be given a briefing on that. It was just done. Then I'll make a decision. Isn't the US position that Iran can have an enrichment program as long as it doesn't reach a weapons? We haven't made that decision yet. We will, but we haven't made that decision yet.

• 1:53:47Patrick Bet-David?

  So, the Persian Gulf covering nearly 97,000 square miles and bordering Iran, Iraq, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Qatar, UAE, and Oman has been naming disputes since the 1960s with Arab nations pushing for Arabian Gulf over the historical Persian Gulf Iran with over 1,000 miles of coastline, threatening legal action against Google in 2012 for not labeling the Gulf and warned airlines in 2010 stating that calling it Arabian Gulf on in-flight monitors will be barred from Iranian airspace. Rob, if you can play the clip of the Shah being asked this question by Mike Wallace back in, God knows, 1972 or 76. It's on Twitter.

• 1:54:29Patrick Bet-David?

  If you just go to my account, you'll see it right there. I retweeted it. You'll see all the way at the top of it. I think it may even be the most recent tweet that I have. That one right there. If you can play this, zoom out. Yeah, there you go.

• 1:54:41Speaker 26

  As you know, I have been across the Gulf, the Gulf that you call Persian and they call Arabian. Why do you call it Gulf? You have been to school, haven't you? Yes. What was the name that you have read during your school days? Persian Gulf. Alright. But they do call it Arabian Gulf. Well, they can do many things. And they...

• 1:55:03Patrick Bet-David?

  You see his poise?

• 1:55:04Speaker 26

  As you know...

• 1:55:05Patrick Bet-David?

  You see his poise, how it is? Do you see how he's handling himself? Do you see how classy it was? Do you see how amazing it was? Let me tell you how awesome Iran was at one point. This is Iranian kids right now, Rob. If you can play this clip. This is Iranian kids right now in Iran singing, and look what they say about Hezbollah. Then look how Iranians used to sing "Kids" when the Shah was the leader. You tell me if you notice the difference between what it is now versus what it was pre-1979 Islamic Revolution. Go ahead, Rob. Evil America, listen carefully. This is the codeine for our operation.

• 1:55:48Patrick Bet-David?

  These are words from our promised Allah. All of the infidels, Americans, we the Hezbollah will defeat you. Prosper Iran, forever shine. Be free, O Iran, through every time. From your children, brave and noble.

• 1:56:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Be ever joyful, or Iran anew.

• 1:56:19Speaker 05

  What a, what a difference of brainwashing leadership. Holy shit, sorry. Oh my goodness. What a change.

• 1:56:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me tell you, when you, when you get leaders of the Khomeini's, the Khomeini's, all of those guys that have been running Iran since 78, and turned the Middle East into as chaotic of an environment as it's ever been, pre 79, this was not happening when the Shah was in charge. He didn't fully trust Israel. Shah never did, but they had a good relationship together. They made it work. He didn't trust a lot of different people, but there was a relationship there. He has a way of talking to people and working with them. Even the IRGC founder said that we kept talking about how many people the Shah killed. The number wasn't that big. The number was in the 1500s to 3,000.

• 1:57:09Patrick Bet-David?

  And their claims they made constantly over and over and over and over again. One number is too many, but they made him seem like the biggest dictator of all time, and he was never that. He brought freedom to women. You know, girls were being married at eight years old, 10 years old. He says, that's not, that doesn't make any sense. 13, 15, even higher ages, women could go to school. My mother got her four-year degree in finance from the University of Tehran. My mother in Iran got her four-year degree from the University of Tehran many, many years ago. And so, you know, and she was somebody that was a supporter of, she fell for the trap, and a lot of people did, that the Shah and the people were all about the rich and all this stuff.

• 1:57:52Patrick Bet-David?

  And they're, Khomeini's gonna come, he's gonna give us free rice, free cars, free phones, free this, free that. And what happens? The rest is destroyed. So, the question becomes, is Trump doing this trolling? Why is he doing it? I have some thoughts, but Adam, I'm gonna come to you first.

• 1:58:07Speaker 05

  I mean, one of the best things I've learned since being...

• 1:58:13Adam Sosnick?

  Next to you for the last five years is understanding the nature of the Persian people and Iran. Because, you know, the revolution was in seventy-nine, I was born in eighty, and I never knew any Iran that wasn't this Islamic, theocratic, thug, murderous regime. Seeing the videos that you show, when the Shah, Reza Pahlavi, was in charge, it's like a different world. You see videos of women, and beautiful women, in dresses and dancing. It was like, you know how they say that like, Lebanon is sort of like the modern Paris of the Middle East, which is no longer. The Paris of the Middle East fifty years ago was Iran.

• 1:58:57Adam Sosnick?

  And compare that to what's going on today. So, you know, in America today, we talk about, "Listen, these schools, this woke, these progressives, they're not, they're no longer..." Educating, they're indoctrinating. So, picture this. That's what's going on in America, when we have freedoms, civil liberties. Okay, this indoctrination that's going on, imagine being in Iran, where you have no say, you can't say back to the government, you can't push back. The indoctrination of these kids is insane. So, you start to see this, "All right, they're singing about..." What group were they singing about? Hezbollah, were they not?

• 1:59:36Adam Sosnick?

  So Hezbollah, the Houthis, Hamas, they're all funded by the Islamic terror group in Iran. So don't tell me that everyone in Gaza is just an innocent victim of this war that's happening right now, because all these kids have unfortunately, unfortunately, been indoctrinated by Hamas for the last twenty years. And that is a small example of what they do.

• 2:00:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. I mean, look, you know, what is, what is the president doing? You know, do I want to see the Persian Gulf be renamed to something else? Of course not. The history of uh the Persian Gulf being named the Persian Gulf for twenty five hundred years. And if you look at the history of who called it that, what names they had, what different uh places, the history of it is well documented, everybody sees it. But what is the president doing? He is using this as a method of negotiation to get under the skin of Iran.

• 2:00:35Speaker 01

  Mm hmm.

• 2:00:36Patrick Bet-David?

  That's what he's doing. And he's sitting there saying, who's gonna do a better deal with me? If Saudi's gonna put one point three trillion, six hundred billion, you're gonna do all that stuff to America and Iran's gonna look and, you know, treat us the way they are? Guess what, Iran? I'm gonna get under your skin. That's what he's doing. And I understand his methodology of what he's doing. I truly do, I get what he's doing. Um, this would have never, ever happened if the Shah was in Iran. Never, ever happened. To all the people, as much as they criticized that man, this would have never, ever happened if the Shah was still leading that country and Iran had a democracy. Never happened. Because Iran would have had a good relationship with Israel, Iran would have had a good relationship

• 2:01:20Patrick Bet-David?

  with Saudi, Iran would have had a good relation with America, Iran would have had a good relation with a lot of different people. But no. You have somebody right now that's financing and selling everything Iran has to places like China, four hundred billion dollar deal that they signed for, what was it, twenty five years? And so, yeah, we're gonna do a nuclear deal and they just have to promise that they're not gonna build any nuclear weapons. You think you believe them? I already think they have it. I'm speculating, but I'm convinced Iran, Iran already has nuclear capabilities. My opinion. So it's not a fact, it's my opinion. I believe they already have it. You think they're gonna tell you about it? If, if, if the Hamas can build the underground uh tunnels that they've been able to build for as many years as they did, and those guys are amateurs, what do you think Iran's

• 2:02:04Patrick Bet-David?

  capable of building underground? What do you think? What do you think? What do you think is down there? You want me to negotiate and say, yeah, make sure you guys don't build any nuclear, stop it? Stop it. Anyways, Adam, you sound like you want to say something.

• 2:02:17Adam Sosnick?

  No, I just, two things. When someone tells you who they are, believe them. So when Iran is shouting, "Death to America," "Death to Israel," just believe them, take them at their word. I believe that they actually want to see America fall to their knees. And they call America the big Satan, they call Israel the little Satan. Now, I'm not even tying those two together. They want to see us dead. The, not the people, the ayatollahs. But number two, what authority does Trump have to change the Gulf, the Persian Gulf? Like, what authority does he have? Meaning, okay, we can change the Gulf of Amer- Gulf of America, Gulf of Mexico to-

• 2:02:56Patrick Bet-David?

  What authority does the president have?

• 2:02:58Adam Sosnick?

  Meaning, that's not his side of the world. What authority does he have to do that?

• 2:03:01Patrick Bet-David?

  It's called the biggest megaphone ever in the history of mankind, ever. It's the biggest megaphone. And by the way, if he says the Arabian Gulf, guess how many people around that area would actually support that? If he says that, and he goes being aggressive with it, let me tell you. You know, there's a lot of people that will start calling that themselves. What did he say to Associated Press? "If you stop calling the Gulf of America, I'm gonna stop funding you."

• 2:03:33Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 2:03:34Patrick Bet-David?

  If you, the amount of power this man has with the way he negotiates and how calculating he is. No, this is a brilliant move to get under Iran's skin. And I think it's gonna work in many creative ways. And I think a lot of people are gonna support it. As much as for a guy that is from there and I'm driven by history, I'm not supportive of this, I fully understand why he's doing it.

• 2:03:56Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah. It's probably to get under their skin.

• 2:03:58Patrick Bet-David?

  It is.

• 2:03:58Adam Sosnick?

  Meaning, like, he's not buying Greenland, he's not making Canada the 51st state. Who knows what's going on with the Panama Canal? He's doing this, he's poking the bear. And it's all leading to a negotiation.

• 2:04:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, Rob, I wanna, I wanna play this clip. I'm gonna, I'm gonna take a different angle, okay? So, I'm gonna play this clip about marriage. I'm a psychologist who studies couples. Then I'm gonna play a Paul Pierce clip, okay? Robin, we're gonna go with it, I'm glad you have it. "I'm a psychologist who studies couples." This is not me, this is the article.

• 2:04:26Adam Sosnick?

  I told you.

• 2:04:27Patrick Bet-David?

  "The number one phrase that breaks up relationships. It's more damaging than you think, and here's what the psychologist claims it is." Studying couples identifies the phrase, "Why can't you be more like..." Dot, dot, dot. Your brother. As highly damaging, noting that it conveys, "You're not enough and someone else, anyone else, could do a better job at being my partner," leading to irreparable insecurity issues. This death by comparison effect undermines relationship by making partners question their worth rather than loving, feeling love for who they are. The phrase often stems from a deeper issue when partners fear openly expresses needs

• 2:05:10Patrick Bet-David?

  with research showing that uncertainty about the relationship or partners' response leads to suppressed frustration such as saying, "Why can't you be more like Sarah's husband? He actually plans dates." Instead of, "I feel disconnected when we don't spend quality time together." The psychologist explains that the more secure and emotionally close a person feels in their relationship, the more likely they are to communicate directly. Tom, I'm only coming to you on this one. Then on the clip, I'm gonna go to Vinny and Adam. But for you, what are your thoughts on this psychologist and what you're saying?

• 2:05:44Tom Ellsworth?

  I think it's absolutely correct. Whenever you, so anytime, I once read that anytime you bring a third person or a third entity into a marriage in such a way that it majorly interrupts things is a form of adultery. And for, for some people, it could be hobbies. The guy that all he does all the weekends is play golf with his buddies rather than spending time with his wife. It's a form of adultery. I know that guy. That you went and insert something like that into your marriage it's at. And these words insert this permanent comparison in there and it's, it's a breaking. It's like adultery. It's like now there's this third thing in the room. Your wife says, "I love you.

• 2:06:29Tom Ellsworth?

  You supposedly love me, but you love this remembrance of this other person more." And so now you're saying, "Why can't I be more like that?" It's like that other person's in the room. And what I've read is those, those are the kind of words that have just... Dramatic destructive power. And so I, this aligns with things that I've read and seen about, um, about how to have positive, enduring, loving, committed marriages.

• 2:06:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Maybe he's just trying to say, why can't we just be friends? Why can't we be friends? Why can't we be friends? Okay, alright, so now, you know.

• 2:07:07Tom Ellsworth?

  So we're gonna go back to Rodney King. Why can't we all get along, man?

• 2:07:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, so, so this, this next one, I'm gonna show is Paul Pierce. A very committed husband to his wife. That was a joke. But Paul Pierce is being asked, is being asked about marriage and what he thinks about marriage. And I wanna get the thoughts of the panel here, what he thinks about what Paul Pierce said here. Go for it, Rob.

• 2:07:30Speaker 27

  Marriage is for old people and poor people.

• 2:07:35Speaker 28

  Okay, so let's get into that.

• 2:07:38Speaker 27

  Because when you broke our parents, like my moms and all them, they, they married on a merit of like, okay, we gonna put our incomes together, have all these kids, and then when our kids, we gonna have five, 10 kids, back in the 60s, all them, they gonna have five, 10 kids so they can work and bring income.

• 2:07:53Speaker 28

  Yeah.

• 2:07:54Speaker 27

  So, you poor, so you married for that. And now when you get old, somebody that to be by your side to take care of you. Outside of that, it's no advantage to a man. What does it do for a man when things go south? Like, we gonna have to give up half our this, pay child support, pay, but what do the, it's only advantageous to a woman. Like, it's real talk.

• 2:08:20Speaker 28

  But what if you meet a woman and you're like, wow, she's a gem, she's valuable, she's everything, and I wanna lock her down in marriage?

• 2:08:27Speaker 27

  I don't wanna lock no woman down. We could be cool.

• 2:08:30Speaker 28

  So you're telling me right now, today?

• 2:08:32Speaker 27

  Today.

• 2:08:33Speaker 28

  You, on January 4th, you do not want to be in a relationship ever again?

• 2:08:39Speaker 27

  I don't think it's realistic long-term, until I turn 70. I am the man.

• 2:08:48Speaker 27

  Till I turn 70, that's the only realistic part I see it because we both old, we ain't out in the streets.

• 2:08:53Adam Sosnick?

  Adam, I'm gonna come to you first. Go ahead, Adam. At least he's being honest. Uh huh. Um, on the surface, uh, it would sound pretty shocking and you might want to disagree with what he's saying, but if you actually peel back what he's saying and remove the hyperbole, it makes a lot of sense. Why? Because what he's saying is this, for a man, modern man to get married in America, he has to understand what he's getting himself involved in. Are you bringing out this belt for a particular reason, sir?

• 2:09:21Speaker 27

  You're about to get a papal.

• 2:09:22Adam Sosnick?

  I don't want to bow back. Listen, I believe wholeheartedly in marriage. You should, uh, not have sex till you're married. You should marry your high school sweetheart. Don't, don't shop around for better women out there. Find the first woman that loves you. No, but the reality is this, you know, but the reality is.

• 2:09:37Tom Ellsworth?

  You have to be ready to pay with your life. All you needed for Adam is a belt.

• 2:09:43Adam Sosnick?

  Thank you, Tom. Um, the.

• 2:09:45Tom Ellsworth?

  You seem to have moved your position pretty quick there, dude.

• 2:09:47Adam Sosnick?

  It was, it was a joke, Tom. Uh, the belt.

• 2:09:49Tom Ellsworth?

  Don't hurt me. I'll say whatever you want.

• 2:09:51Adam Sosnick?

  The, um, the reality is, is for men in, in America today, um, these are going to be two totally different things. Do you want to find someone to share your life with? Do you want a relationship? Do you want to have kids with somebody? Yes, yes, yes, yes. Do you want to be married to the government? Do you want to have the, have half your stuff, if not your entire life taken? Do you want to be a part of the 98% of men who end up paying alimony? Do you want to basically not be able to see your kids? Do you want to have to pay child support to a woman? We'll let you, let you see your kids. There's an ugly other side to this marriage thing. One of those things he said can be fixed. Exactly. But one of the best things I ever heard you possibly say is, you know, marriage is risky. Not getting, Tom, let's grow up for a second here, guy. Tom.

• 2:10:32Tom Ellsworth?

  I'm taking a bong hit so Adam makes sense.

• 2:10:34Adam Sosnick?

  Tom is literally making bong hitting noises here and I'm the childish one here on the podcast. Okay, guys. Let's keep good, let's continue. You know, one of the best things you ever said is, you know, not getting married is risky. I'm sorry, getting married is risky, not getting married even riskier. Having kids is risky, not having kids even riskier. Starting a business risky, not starting a business even riskier. There's so much truth in that, but the reality is the grass is always greener on both sides. You just have to know what you want out of life and go for that. But I understand what Paul Pierce is saying, but I also understand why someone like him.

• 2:11:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, can you do me a favor and pull up this? This guy who is, I think his name is Sexton, who is going viral, who's a divorce attorney, who tells a lot of stories. He talks about his own personal divorce, but watch what he says caused couples to never come back to him for divorce. You have to watch his clip. Go ahead, Rob, play this clip. He's on Huberman Podcast, go ahead.

• 2:11:30Speaker 29

  And probably hundreds, if not thousands of prenups over 25 years. I think there may be five people that I did their divorce after they had a prenup.

• 2:11:40Speaker 01

  Really?

• 2:11:41Speaker 29

  Yeah.

• 2:11:41Speaker 01

  I think people need to hear that again.

• 2:11:43Speaker 29

  I think that, yeah, so, so I've done hundreds, if not at least a thousand prenups in 25 years. I probably do two or three prenups a week. So I do a lot of prenups. Most of my colleagues do a lot of prenups. And I've never asked my colleagues this, but you know, usually when you do a prenup, you have a good relationship with the person by the time it's finished. It's a transaction people feel good about. It's a divorce, sometimes you finish a divorce and the person's like, oh my God, I never want to see you again because you remind me of this really dark chapter. But prenups, it's usually a very friendly transaction. It's positive.

• 2:12:15Speaker 01

  This is surprising to me. So people who prenup tend not to break up. Yes, that right?

• 2:12:19Speaker 29

  Yes.

• 2:12:20Speaker 01

  I think many people will be very surprised to hear that.

• 2:12:24Speaker 29

  I think it's self-selecting. I think the kind of people who can have a conversation that you need to have in order to discuss and negotiate, and again, there's another term. I don't think it's the right term, negotiate.

• 2:12:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Vinnie, what are you thinking?

• 2:12:37Adam Sosnick?

  Well, because while you guys are talking, I just wanted to see like, what would make Paul Pierce say something like that? Like it's for poor people and it's for old people. So he was married to actress Dana Davis in 2000. They had a daughter and then they divorced in 2004. And then he began dating interior designer Julie Landrum in 2005, married her in 2010. They have three children and then he announced he was single in 2023.

• 2:13:02Speaker 05

  I mean, I don't know the history. I don't know like what, what the relationship was, if there was prenups and if there's all this. It sounds like, you know, he's paid a lot of money. Maybe he did, or it looks like from the, from the sound of him being like that, I don't think he signed a prenup with the earlier ones. So he's probably bitter and he's spending a lot of money. And it's like, listen.

• 2:13:21Patrick Bet-David?

  But why do you think he's at 70? Did he say 70 because at 70, he's gonna need somebody to take care of him?

• 2:13:25Speaker 05

  I need a ship, girl.

• 2:13:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Maybe his testosterone level is gonna be lower, so his desire to wanna be.

• 2:13:30Speaker 05

  Desire and done playing around, like done being that guy in the number two, you're, you're, you're old and you want somebody like, you know what some other people do? They get a dog. They get a cat. Adam gets two. But I think it's, I think it's, you know, he's been hurt. He's, he's bitter right now.

• 2:13:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Some countries, they get sheeps, they get pigs, they get other types of.

• 2:13:48Speaker 05

  I don't know what you're talking about. Yeah, but I, I think, I think he's been, you know, he's been through it. He's seen it. He's bitter.

• 2:13:53Patrick Bet-David?

  East, eastern hemisphere, western.

• 2:13:55Speaker 05

  Totally different, totally different.

• 2:13:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 2:13:57Speaker 05

  But, um, yeah, that's what's, that, that, and by the way, again, that's his prerogative. That's what he wants. Good luck.

• 2:14:03Patrick Bet-David?

  All right.

• 2:14:04Adam Sosnick?

  Can I say one more thing? Cause I, I actually.

• 2:14:06Speaker 05

  Get your belt.

• 2:14:07Adam Sosnick?

  Well, I mean.

• 2:14:08Speaker 05

  Go ahead.

• 2:14:08Adam Sosnick?

  There's only one person here on this panel, I believe, has been through a divorce.

• 2:14:14Patrick Bet-David?

  You're not the only one.

• 2:14:17Adam Sosnick?

  Of Tom as well?

• 2:14:18Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm just saying, you're not the only one.

• 2:14:20Adam Sosnick?

  And you're not the, so I've been through a divorce and I had a prenup and the relationship was rocky as hell. But the divorce, because of the prenup, actually seamless, not an issue. These are the rules of engagement. These are the rules of what's happening here. We ended up being very cool, mutual friends at the end. A hell of a guy, I'll tell you that much. No, joke. Great girl, you know, and, um, she's now married. Now she's starting her own family. She's doing her own thing. But the prenup basically established, these are what the rules of engagement are gonna be. You know, there's a famous line, uh, holla, we want prenup. Yeah. Because when she leave you, actually go, leave with half. If you don't have that prenup, uh, you're gonna get, take it to the cleaners. So I totally understand why having a prenup is imperative for both sides.

• 2:15:06Adam Sosnick?

  No? Don't you, don't you feel pretty strongly about prenups, P B?

• 2:15:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, I'm a 1 million percent prenup guy.

• 2:15:11Adam Sosnick?

  Okay.

• 2:15:12Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm a 1 million percent prenup guy. I think it does everything for everyone to know what the risk is and allows the man to actually work harder.

• 2:15:22Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 2:15:23Patrick Bet-David?

  It allows the man to work harder. And provide more and it causes everybody to understand what's at stake if you do something dumb. And it's not like no one's gonna do anything dumb. I mean, you have to realize, we're all sinners. We all do dumb things in our lives, but you don't want to make the big dumb mistakes. If you do, it's gonna be costly in a big way. So I do think what Paul is talking about as well is when you go through the life of playing around for too long. You know, that whole phrase, what is the phrase? Why can't you be like Johnny? When you're at that age and you've been around, you're like, why can't you have her butt, but her personality?

• 2:16:03Patrick Bet-David?

  But Mary's lips, but Jackie's legs, but Cindy's this, and you know, that person's father and this person's mother, and that person's sister and this person. So why can't you have that? Because you have like so many different things, so it's hard for you to see. Anybody you see and you date, in one area, they're not gonna be as good as another person you've had. Anybody. So that's the challenge that it becomes for a guy like Paul Pierce. How old is Paul Pierce, bud? I don't know how old the guy is.

• 2:16:27Adam Sosnick?

  Probably about to be 50, I'm guessing. Forty-seven. Forty-seven. Okay, my bad, Paul Pierce. He's my age.

• 2:16:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Guess what? We're exactly October 18th, baby. He's 13th. He's a year and five days older than me.

• 2:16:41Adam Sosnick?

  You know, they say that Paul Pierce is, you know what his nickname was? He played ball, right? He was the truth. So do you think what he's saying is the truth, or is he spitting?

• 2:16:48Patrick Bet-David?

  I think it's his truth. I think it's his truth and uh...

• 2:16:50Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, you know what they say about my truth these days?

• 2:16:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. So, but, but, but listen, it is what it is, and it is a topic of discussion that a lot of people are having. But like Adam said, there are risks to being married, but there are risks to staying single. There are risks to having kids, but there are riskier times to not having kids. You gotta manage your own risks. Anyways. Gang, it's been great being with you guys, spending time with you. I don't think we have another podcast, Rob, if I'm mistaken. Nothing we got going on tomorrow. However, we do have an episode of her take coming out tomorrow. And by the way, I don't know if you have the intro or not, Rob. I do not, but I can see if they can. Yeah. I may have it. Hang on one second. By the way, do you realize after one episode of Her Take, it outperformed Michelle Obama's

• 2:17:37Patrick Bet-David?

  first time when she opened up her channel? Weird. Yeah, very impressed to everybody that's supporting it. Remember, we told you mainstream gave you the view, ViTame is giving you Her Take. If you want to see more ladies to come, is this the one, Rob? This is the trailer. This is the trailer for tomorrow's episode of Her Take. Go for it, Rob.

• 2:17:56Speaker 17

  Welcome to Her Take. We're real conversing.

• 2:17:59Patrick Bet-David?

  This is from last week's. So that's the only trailer. Yeah, then it's all good. I have another one that was there. Anyways, if you go to Her Take the channel, if you go to Her Take the channel and Rob, if you don't mind also putting the link below, if you put the link below as well for people to, just go to YouTube, Rob, and just type in Her Take. Yeah, is that the one, Rob? Yep. Okay. Bingo. So if you can put the link as well, folks, please go support it. Seventeen thousand subscribers or seventeen five? Well, look at the first episode, how it did. Go to the first episode. Hundred and six thousand views. Hundred and six thousand views. The ladies did a phenomenal job. We had another call yesterday. An interesting guest will be on the next one that's coming out. We have the next show that's coming up.

• 2:18:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Put the link below, Rob, if you could, in the chat, in the comment sections. Guys, please go support the ladies. They're doing a great job. We're excited about the show, Her Take. And there will be many, many more surprising announcements coming soon. Take care, everybody. God bless. Bye bye, bye bye.

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