S13 EP9: In Loving Memory of Beryl the Cat - R.I.P. xxx

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• 1:52Speaker 05

  There we go. Anya, yes, 41 months, so nearly four. Uh, three and a half, who cares? I've listened from the beginning when our daughter India was 14 months old. You're my all-time favourite podcast. I rarely miss an episode, rarely. Anya is your stereotypical second born and definitely lives life in her own quirky, funny and often feral way. She's been a late talker. She's working hard on pronunciation, so I wanted to send in her attempt at saying your names. Oh, my phone fucking locked. Jesus, we're.

• 2:27Speaker 04

  For God's sake, you got to a nice heartfelt bit about a late talking child that's now finally talking on this woman's favourite podcast she regularly listens to, not all the time.

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  It's not my fault, blame Apple.

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  Really, really misses an episode. Why? There's only two a week, how busy are you?

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  Yeah, yeah.

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  It's like two hours, how many hours in a week?

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  It's the, it's the guest apps.

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  Twenty-four times seven.

• 2:45Speaker 05

  She's going, oh God, who cares? She's been a late talker and is working hard on pronunciation, so I wanted to send her a temp at saying your names to make parents of other late talkers feel a bit better. Please never stop making the pod as I need it in my life forever, though you don't listen to it all the time. Lots of love, Pip, 476 months from Stockport.

• 3:06Speaker 04

  Well done. I was a late talker, I had to go to speech therapy, look at me now. God, shut up.

• 3:12Speaker 05

  Exactly. Made a career out of it.

• 3:15Speaker 04

  Josh, I feel all pumped up and excited and sexy.

• 3:18Speaker 05

  Well, you look it.

• 3:20Speaker 04

  Thanks. For the listeners, we've just recorded our first ever episode of Footballing Hell that's available where we should explain what that is.

• 3:28Speaker 05

  Are we franchising, Rob? Are we, are we like, we're like The Rest Is, but the difference is that we host all the different versions of it.

• 3:35Speaker 04

  Yeah, so it's like, it's like The Rest Is, but we.

• 3:39Speaker 05

  Alastair Campbell and Rory Stewart hosting every different subject on The Rest Is.

• 3:43Speaker 04

  So most people get to a point, if they've got something successful, what they then do is try to earn money by not being there and having to do it and have a sort of income that's like, doesn't involve them directly. Not us, we're on the frontline. We're, we're, everything's bloody hell to us, right, guys?

• 3:58Speaker 05

  Exactly. Get ready for food, hell.

• 4:01Speaker 04

  Well, basically, we speak about football a lot in the Parenting Hell episodes. And some listeners don't like that and it's off-topic about parenting, blah, blah, blah. We love football, we love chatting about football. So we thought, why don't we just do a recap episode every Monday of what's happened at the weekend? And that way, we won't talk about football on this show. And in the footballing episode, we don't talk about our kids, our family life, what we've been up to. It's just football. So.

• 4:27Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 4:27Speaker 04

  It's funny, I think if you like this, you like that.

• 4:29Speaker 05

  It's very similar vibe. It's a mess. It's us. It's, there's no tactical analysis, there's no expert thing. It's just a mess of us talking, really.

• 4:39Speaker 04

  We spoke a lot about haircuts.

• 4:40Speaker 05

  We did.

• 4:41Speaker 04

  And a man you've never seen bald in a way that, I've never seen someone go bald that way. Anyway, let's not go over ground, but if you like us on this.

• 4:48Speaker 05

  Or if you know anyone that likes football that maybe isn't into parenting, but you think would like it, send them, it's on this feed every Monday.

• 4:55Speaker 04

  Yeah, so that's what we've been doing, but now we're back doing Parenting Hell. How you been? What's going on? Talk to me. Because I don't know anything about your week because we just spoke about football.

• 5:04Speaker 05

  Exactly, Rob.

• 5:06Speaker 04

  Well, it's perfect.

• 5:08Speaker 05

  It's perfect.

• 5:09Speaker 04

  I'm just now so lasered in on parenting that.

• 5:12Speaker 05

  Yeah, yeah, of course.

• 5:13Speaker 04

  I'm not going to get dragged into why has, you know, Bakayosaka got cornrows now and looks faster than having his normal hair.

• 5:22Speaker 05

  No, exactly.

• 5:23Speaker 04

  Go away, give it to me. What's hap, what's happening? What's up?

• 5:26Speaker 05

  Actually, let's start with some, let's start with some fun stuff.

• 5:28Speaker 04

  Have it hanging.

• 5:29Speaker 05

  Because I haven't got fun stuff, so you start with some fun stuff, Rob.

• 5:32Speaker 04

  Okay, I feel like now I've got some sort of hostage survivor who's on Jonathan Ross and I've got to squeeze in at the end and do some banter, but not a problem, I'm here.

• 5:41Speaker 05

  No, that's fine.

• 5:42Speaker 04

  We watched Free Willy, well, this actually isn't fun, we watched Free Willy the other day. Everyone cried. Not as fun as I thought it was going to be. I know a nice film, you like animals, don't you? This is cute, apps, the kids were in apps. So it's horrific, Free Willy.

• 5:58Speaker 05

  I don't think I've seen Free Willy.

• 5:59Speaker 04

  Oh my God. I mean, the, the most we laughed was the kids laughing at the fact that a Willy was being freed.

• 6:05Speaker 05

  Yeah, of course.

• 6:06Speaker 04

  Yeah. So we did a few jokes, cock escape, stuff like that.

• 6:09Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 6:10Speaker 04

  Unleash the dick. I did them in my head, I didn't say them out loud to the kids.

• 6:13Speaker 05

  Okay, I was going to say. That's a, that's a, you know, you'll take any audience, wouldn't you?

• 6:19Speaker 04

  I say Willie a lot. So we watched that.

• 6:21Speaker 05

  It's weird that they called it Free Willy. It's, because it's not like you go, oh, that's a weird little coincidence that makes it an innuendo. They've made that decision.

• 6:31Speaker 04

  Yeah, it's like calling the, the killer whale Richard, but then they call it Dick.

• 6:34Speaker 05

  Yeah, exactly.

• 6:35Speaker 04

  It's not, there's so many other words.

• 6:38Speaker 05

  Also.

• 6:39Speaker 04

  Willie isn't big in America, is it? Is that, do people say Willie in America?

• 6:42Speaker 05

  Oh, right, is that right?

• 6:44Speaker 04

  So glad we're just focusing on parenting.

• 6:46Speaker 05

  Well, can I ask another question about Free Willy?

• 6:51Speaker 04

  Yeah, go on.

• 6:52Speaker 05

  Because I haven't seen it. Obviously, it was a huge film when I was growing up, but I just didn't really get around to seeing it or whatever. The bit where the whale jumps over him, that's the poster.

• 7:01Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 7:02Speaker 05

  Is that not the end when he's freeing Willie?

• 7:04Speaker 04

  Yeah, I think, I actually had to tell the kids that, I mean, also.

• 7:09Speaker 05

  Like, it's very rare that a film will, will use as a poster, the end.

• 7:14Speaker 04

  Well, I think it's because if you don't know he gets freed or not, it's the darkest, most horrendous two hours of your life. Where basically you've got a child that's living on the street because his mum's abandoned him. He goes into a foster home with two people that really love him, but he just can't take the love. Then he goes to clean off the graffiti he did because his mates are all smoking and moving to California. And he's only about 12. And then basically he finds out his mum's never coming back, so he has an argument with his foster family. Then the whale won't perform for the, for the person that owns the whale. So he decides to try and kill the whale to get the insurance money.

• 7:49Speaker 05

  Jesus, wow.

• 7:50Speaker 04

  And then he eventually trains the whale, spoiler alert, by the way, if you're just tuning in. He eventually trains the whale, but then the whale.

• 7:56Speaker 05

  The kid.

• 7:57Speaker 04

  The kid, yep. Because he didn't connect, because basically the whale's been taken from his mum, the other kid's been taken from his mum. Crying all the time, my kids are crying. And then Willie basically learns, they have fun, does loads of tricks. Also really sad bent over dorsal fin, which I had to explain to my kid, you're only getting captivity. Then basically he trains him to do tricks and then he can't do the tricks in front of all the crowds because he gets scared and it's too loud. So he tries to attack everyone through the glass cage observation deck. So then what the owner does, he tries to empty the tank to drown the whale. So then there's this horrible race against time to try and get a whale on the back of a truck into the sea.

• 8:36Speaker 04

  Then they go up, for some reason though, they leave the aquarium thing and then drive uphill and there are trees falling down. Two things there. Fuck me, what are the chances? You're moving a whale and a tree's falling down. Second of all, why go uphill if you're trying to get to the sea?

• 8:53Speaker 05

  Good point.

• 8:54Speaker 04

  Thank you. Anyway, then they get him into the sea, but then there's boats that are trying to capture him and then the kids are crying. The bloke from Reservoir Dogs punches someone.

• 9:02Speaker 05

  Who's that?

• 9:03Speaker 04

  Michael Marsden, he's in it.

• 9:05Speaker 05

  Oh, yeah.

• 9:06Speaker 04

  And then basically the whale, in the worst bit of CGI I've ever seen, jumps over what is an unjumpable bit of rock. At no point did the children happy. Yep.

• 9:18Speaker 05

  And that's the, that's the clip, the one clip everyone's seen.

• 9:22Speaker 04

  Yeah, of him with his hand.

• 9:23Speaker 05

  That's mental.

• 9:24Speaker 04

  And then the kids are upset because the dorsal fin doesn't go fully erect once they're in the sea.

• 9:29Speaker 05

  Oh, God.

• 9:29Speaker 04

  Because they expected it, like, just because he's in the sea. And then we, then we're having to explain about why people have, I'm Googling how many orcas are still in captivity and luckily they're not doing it anymore, but it's only the ones that have been born in it. And if you, then they went, what happened to Willie? Actually, the, the whale in it got released into the wild, but then died of pneumonia because he couldn't deal with it. And swam from Iceland to Norway trying to find humans because it's only used to.

• 9:54Speaker 05

  Oh, God.

• 9:55Speaker 04

  Anyway, we had popcorn, had a great time.

• 9:58Speaker 05

  Holy sholy.

• 9:59Speaker 04

  Yes, so it's quite an intense feel, Free Willy. It wasn't cool runnings. In my head, I thought it was gonna be cool runners, but it weren't. So we did that.

• 10:11Speaker 05

  Do you know what? It's the perfect setup for some sad news. Would you know, Rob?

• 10:15Speaker 04

  Do you wanna do sad news now or later? Shall we just do?

• 10:18Speaker 05

  Shall we just get it done? Because it genuinely is upsetting.

• 10:21Speaker 04

  I know. I don't know how to deal with this, because you are very upset.

• 10:25Speaker 05

  Do you know what? I feel like Zoe Ball and Joe Wiley would absolutely nail this.

• 10:31Speaker 04

  They're very good at dealing with sensitive, big topics.

• 10:34Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 10:35Speaker 04

  I think we are in a different way, but I have to be careful of how I tread. Because I'm quite good at blocking off all emotion in order to just deal with life.

• 10:43Speaker 05

  So we lost, not lost, that's the wrong word for a cat as well. Beryl has died sadly, which was

• 10:50Speaker 04

  Poor Beryl.

• 10:51Speaker 05

  incredibly upsetting for, mainly for me and Rose, I'll be honest. My daughter was very upset. But kids get over it incredibly fast.

• 11:00Speaker 04

  Well, you, Beryl's been in your life a lot longer than

• 11:03Speaker 05

  Eleven years.

• 11:04Speaker 04

  Eleven years. That's quite young for a cat though, isn't it?

• 11:07Speaker 05

  Yeah, I know. But then bear in mind, she's been cheating death since 2022 with her kidney situation.

• 11:13Speaker 04

  Yeah, she's been managing that.

• 11:15Speaker 05

  She's absolutely taken the cat insurance to the cleaners.

• 11:19Speaker 04

  If he was famous, you'd say, after a long battle with kidney disease.

• 11:22Speaker 05

  Yeah. And she just She just passed away, like overnight. So that's a nice thing.

• 11:29Speaker 04

  Oh, who found the cat?

• 11:31Speaker 05

  Nah, the builder.

• 11:33Speaker 04

  Adrian?

• 11:34Speaker 05

  No, not Adrian. No. That'll be the next one. Adrian's passed away.

• 11:39Speaker 04

  God.

• 11:39Speaker 05

  All these characters, all these characters have gone.

• 11:42Speaker 04

  It's like EastEnders, you get so many of them, they do have to sort of go at some point. Adrian's all right. I don't say Adrian's gonna pass away.

• 11:48Speaker 05

  I couldn't believe how, no, Adrian's a great man. I couldn't believe how upset I was. We didn't, I didn't even care about cats when we got them.

• 11:57Speaker 04

  No, you love cats. You said you loved them after their piss.

• 12:00Speaker 05

  Did I?

• 12:01Speaker 04

  Obviously, you're gonna be sad.

• 12:02Speaker 05

  I was incredibly upset. I actually, a couple of hours later, I had to get a train to London. And then I was on the platform of Exeter St David's. I had to go into the toilet because I was crying.

• 12:13Speaker 04

  Oh.

• 12:14Speaker 05

  Fucking hell. Just went into the toilet cubicle and sobbed.

• 12:19Speaker 04

  Oh, but I suppose you're having to stay stoic and sort of strong in front of the kids and Rose and stuff, isn't it?

• 12:24Speaker 05

  Oh, God, it was awful. And there's something about an animal dying where if a human dies, you know, which is obviously much worse, just to, you know, put that first.

• 12:38Speaker 04

  True, but it depends. And I'm not sort of, it depends on the relationship. If you live on your own.

• 12:44Speaker 05

  There's a lot more questions when a human dies about, what was my relationship like with them? Should I have seen them more? You know, plus, there's all that stuff back on yourself of like, oh my God, you know, time's passing. You don't get that with a cat. It's literally purely about feeling incredibly sad that that cat won't be there anymore. That's all, that, but yeah. Oh.

• 13:08Speaker 04

  What do you, if it's too soon for this question?

• 13:11Speaker 05

  No.

• 13:12Speaker 04

  Once the cat's passed and you've found the cat and then you're sad, what are you doing with it?

• 13:19Speaker 05

  The previous one you took to the vet, you see. So I phoned the vet.

• 13:22Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 13:23Speaker 05

  And they said, oh, we've got this really nice man whose job is pet cremation.

• 13:28Speaker 04

  So he comes and gets the

• 13:30Speaker 05

  A wild job, to be fair.

• 13:32Speaker 04

  Yeah, insane.

• 13:33Speaker 05

  Yeah. So he came and got Beryl.

• 13:35Speaker 04

  He's just on a tight schedule and can't bother to do humans, who are just as smaller. I've only got an oven. I've got an air fryer. Sorry.

• 13:42Speaker 05

  Sorry, that's bad, that's bad.

• 13:45Speaker 04

  Sorry.

• 13:45Speaker 05

  Well, I told you what happened with Eddie, didn't I? When, I'm sure I've said this, that they said, do you wanna pay this for cremation or do you wanna pay a bit extra for her to go through on her own? So like, well, obviously I want her to go through on her own. I don't want the ashes of a load of cats.

• 14:01Speaker 04

  What's the price difference?

• 14:03Speaker 05

  Well, not, not huge.

• 14:06Speaker 04

  I'm telling you, if you're down the vets and you're on a budget and you're the only one that knows, and it's under quid less, I think there's a lot of people, people out there that'll go, yeah, stick it through. Just give me a portion.

• 14:20Speaker 05

  Heartless bastards.

• 14:22Speaker 04

  Well, no, but I'm just saying, you could, because no one else would need to know.

• 14:28Speaker 05

  Well, I suppose

• 14:29Speaker 04

  Let us know if you, let us know.

• 14:31Speaker 05

  Oh, no.

• 14:31Speaker 04

  If you made that decision and why.

• 14:34Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 14:35Speaker 04

  And if you're the only one that knows.

• 14:36Speaker 05

  And I know we're in a cost of living crisis, et cetera.

• 14:39Speaker 04

  Well, exactly. How much was it to cremate a cat?

• 14:41Speaker 05

  I don't know, because I'd gone, I was crying at Exeter St David's by the time the guy turned up.

• 14:45Speaker 04

  So the guy just basically comes, how quickly?

• 14:48Speaker 05

  Sorry, what?

• 14:49Speaker 04

  How quickly does he come to get the cat?

• 14:52Speaker 05

  Okay. Um, he arrived at lunchtime.

• 14:58Speaker 04

  Right. So do you just leave Beryl in the same position?

• 15:01Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 15:01Speaker 04

  Sleeping?

• 15:02Speaker 05

  I kind of, oh, God.

• 15:04Speaker 04

  It depends where they pass, though, because it's like in their bed by like, you know, wherever they normally sleep. But if it's like on the stairs.

• 15:12Speaker 05

  Yeah, no, luckily it was.

• 15:13Speaker 04

  You'd only sort of step it over, like.

• 15:15Speaker 05

  No, it was in a room.

• 15:16Speaker 04

  It's too heartless. I can't judge this. I don't know how to sleep.

• 15:19Speaker 05

  I even know Joe Wiley.

• 15:21Speaker 04

  No, I'm not very good. I'm sort of, I do quite like efficiency and details.

• 15:24Speaker 05

  Yeah, that's fine. So it was incredibly sad.

• 15:27Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 15:27Speaker 05

  We're getting her ashes brought back in, she's got the same urn as Eddie, her sister, so they can go next to each other.

• 15:35Speaker 04

  So you have them out on the side?

• 15:37Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 15:40Speaker 04

  Cool.

• 15:41Speaker 05

  That's not, what, what?

• 15:43Speaker 04

  I don't know. I just didn't think about having like, I don't think I'd want anyone, any animal or persons, I think I'd bury or scatter on a walk that they liked, if they were a dog or

• 15:53Speaker 05

  No, you want them to be there, part of the family.

• 15:56Speaker 04

  No, I, I'm not even having like my mum and dad's on that. That's getting scattered.

• 16:00Speaker 05

  That's weirder, I think. That's weirder.

• 16:02Speaker 04

  I'll take them down to the strip in Benidorm and just lay it down for them.

• 16:08Speaker 04

  No, but I think it's like, you don't want ashes. Well, I don't know. I didn't know people had, I thought people had ashes on the side until they buried them or scattered them. But you've just got them on the side like a knickknack. No, I'm not having a go. I just didn't know what people do with

• 16:22Speaker 05

  We have, we have got Eddie on the side like a knickknack.

• 16:24Speaker 04

  Eddie on the side like a knickknack. That's, no, and that's fine. I didn't know if people did that. I just thought you buried it or scattered.

• 16:29Speaker 05

  Let us know, let us know.

• 16:30Speaker 04

  Yeah, what, yeah, I just thought buried or scattered. But ashes definitely go ashes, because you don't want like, very like

• 16:36Speaker 05

  Stuffed.

• 16:37Speaker 04

  No.

• 16:38Speaker 05

  But yeah, genuinely, still not really over it.

• 16:42Speaker 04

  Well, you're not gonna be straight away.

• 16:44Speaker 05

  And I know this sounds mad, but I'm struggling to connect with the other two cats. I feel a bit, I feel it brings up

• 16:52Speaker 04

  A bit guilty.

• 16:53Speaker 05

  I feel resentful of them.

• 16:57Speaker 04

  Jesus. Well, how, well, not Fluff, House Fluff, Fluffboy had a brain scan, didn't it?

• 17:04Speaker 05

  No, I've got to take it for a brain scan on Friday.

• 17:06Speaker 04

  Right.

• 17:06Speaker 05

  Her legs are back to normal, though.

• 17:08Speaker 04

  Are they?

• 17:09Speaker 05

  But I tell you what, I just, I, I will always go back to that Charlie Brooker article I read that said he could never have a dog because he knows it would hurt him so much when it died.

• 17:19Speaker 04

  Do you think, how do I word this? You're obviously two have passed, one's having a brain scan, you're at the vets a lot. Do you think it's anything to do with you?

• 17:34Speaker 04

  Either bad luck or a sign or the way you're dealing with them, just throwing, throwing the ball in the air.

• 17:42Speaker 05

  No, yeah, fair enough, fair enough. No, I don't, I refuse to.

• 17:47Speaker 04

  Oh, well, I'm very sorry about that. That is hard.

• 17:49Speaker 05

  It's very sad, but there we go.

• 17:51Speaker 04

  It's good to express that emotion and be sad and open rather than getting drunk or trying to

• 17:56Speaker 05

  It's a really good thing to feel sad because it means that you can actually with your pet. Do you know what I mean?

• 18:01Speaker 04

  Exactly, of course. It'd be weird if you didn't feel sad. You've got, you will feel sad and get upset. And it's a presence, it's an energy in the house that's been there for 11 years.

• 18:11Speaker 05

  It hasn't happened.

• 18:12Speaker 04

  I know, I know.

• 18:14Speaker 05

  Oh, fuck.

• 18:15Speaker 04

  Did you have much death in your life growing up as a child? I always

• 18:20Speaker 05

  No, the first death I was affected by was, so like my great grandma died, but didn't really know her.

• 18:28Speaker 04

  Right. It was more like, you didn't go to the funeral, it was more like a piece of news.

• 18:32Speaker 05

  Uh, I remember going up, I was too small, so we went up and my dad went to the funeral and I kind of, someone stayed behind with the kids that were, I don't know how old, it had been 10 or something. My gran, who I was very close to, died when I was 20, 22, 23. That was quite extreme. I've only had really two people in my life die that were really extreme experiences. What about you?

• 18:57Speaker 04

  Right. So I had quite a lot of funerals and grief young. So I don't know if I'm a little bit more used to it.

• 19:06Speaker 05

  Figures.

• 19:06Speaker 04

  Yeah, so I went, so, so So by the time I was 22, I'd probably been to about eight or nine funerals from the age of like 11 upwards. Which is quite a lot, isn't it?

• 19:22Speaker 05

  That's quite mad.

• 19:23Speaker 04

  And there were some real tragic ones in there as well.

• 19:25Speaker 05

  Really mad.

• 19:26Speaker 04

  Like not, like really some real tragic ones, not just old people as well.

• 19:30Speaker 05

  How do I put this? Do you think it's you?

• 19:44Speaker 04

  I don't think it could help.

• 19:48Speaker 05

  Has your, has your kind of kiss of death element slowed down over the last 20 years?

• 19:55Speaker 04

  Um, I tell you, it's, I, I feel like Chelsea. I've had a steady presence. Those, the big years. But I'm still, I'm still in, in and around the silverware.

• 20:06Speaker 05

  Right, okay.

• 20:06Speaker 04

  Yeah, I'm not running away with it. But, um, no, I think I went to a lot of, uh, I had a lot of funerals growing up as a teenager and as a young adult. So, hi.

• 20:16Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 20:16Speaker 04

  It's part of life, isn't it? And it's difficult. And that's why pets are quite good for kids. Cause I think it does help. Yeah. Do you have kids? Did you have pets as a kid?

• 20:24Speaker 05

  Yeah, but I wasn't really into them. And actually, they didn't die until,

• 20:30Speaker 05

  um, we had a dog and a cat and they basically saw me off to university, I think.

• 20:35Speaker 04

  Anyway, let's talk about something, uh,

• 20:38Speaker 05

  Something less sad.

• 20:39Speaker 04

  The eclipse. Did you watch the eclipse?

• 20:42Speaker 05

  We loved the eclipse.

• 20:43Speaker 04

  What a load of shit.

• 20:45Speaker 05

  Knew that was coming.

• 20:46Speaker 04

  Couldn't, couldn't get on board with it. Didn't even go that dark. Just was a bit hazy, like a big cloud.

• 20:50Speaker 05

  Did you get the glasses?

• 20:52Speaker 04

  No, of course not. Just looked at it for a bit.

• 20:54Speaker 05

  That's your mistake, Rob.

• 20:55Speaker 04

  I borrowed someone's glasses, cause where I was, it was happening. I was working, I was filming on a golf course for a, I was interviewing Moses Atalma.

• 21:04Speaker 05

  Um, I don't know, that is.

• 21:05Speaker 04

  British boxer. He's gonna probably end up be the youngest British world heavyweight champion of all time when he fights at the end of the month.

• 21:12Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 21:12Speaker 04

  Philip Hrgovic.

• 21:14Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 21:14Speaker 04

  Anyway, I was interviewing him.

• 21:15Speaker 05

  You were interviewing him on a golf course during the eclipse?

• 21:18Speaker 04

  Yes. And he just sort of liked the moon normally.

• 21:21Speaker 05

  Yeah. But it was quite fun. I enjoyed it.

• 21:24Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 21:25Speaker 05

  We, we went down to Exmoor.

• 21:26Speaker 04

  I think Spain looked quite good. I thought it was, it was better on the te- it was better on the telly.

• 21:30Speaker 05

  Look, 1999, Rob. It was a complete eclipse in the south. It was mega in the southwest in 1999.

• 21:37Speaker 04

  Yes, cause nothing else is happening. How dare you. Come on.

• 21:41Speaker 05

  We were the centre. Do you remember the 1999 one? You'd have been about 15.

• 21:45Speaker 04

  I was 13. Not really, no. I think I was, I think I was in a crematorium again.

• 21:53Speaker 05

  Getting your bloody loyalty card stamped. One free burial for Rob Beckett.

• 21:58Speaker 04

  I was in an itchy George Asda black suit that was sparking under the armpits, cause it was a cheap material.

• 22:04Speaker 04

  I remember buying a suit for a funeral at George Asda. And, um, it, um, the chick, cause it was, I got the cheapest one. I remember the friction was outrageous. I thought, could light a match here? I'd be, there'll be, there'll be an Andy Burnham emergency tweet about my armpits and crotch. It's not in a wildfire.

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• 23:58Speaker 04

  But yeah, I, I didn't, I didn't mind it. But I wasn't really set up for it. If you're on a beach next to it with the kids and the glasses, I imagine there's all hippies around you and stuff.

• 24:05Speaker 05

  Well, there wasn't any.

• 24:05Speaker 04

  Clapping and cheering.

• 24:07Speaker 05

  There wasn't any of that. But we all, we all had a lovely time.

• 24:10Speaker 04

  Right, that's nice.

• 24:11Speaker 05

  It, you know, whatever. It is what it is.

• 24:14Speaker 04

  I don't mind it. I'm like, yeah, cool. Have a look at it. Cause we've got the glasses. It's like a different thing that's happening this afternoon. But like, there's a man on the news crying. I was like, grow up.

• 24:24Speaker 05

  Yeah, that's nice.

• 24:25Speaker 04

  Pathetic.

• 24:25Speaker 05

  I, I wouldn't be an eclipse chaser. Do you know what I mean?

• 24:28Speaker 04

  No, God. Well, it's like once in a generation. I saw it when I was 13. I'm 40. There'll be a couple more.

• 24:33Speaker 05

  Yeah, yeah. No, it's 2090.

• 24:35Speaker 04

  2090's the next one?

• 24:37Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 24:38Speaker 04

  I should make that. What is it now?

• 24:40Speaker 05

  You'd be, you'd be.

• 24:41Speaker 04

  With modern medicine, I'll be, I'll be front row for it. And I'll tell you what, I'll be sat there sucking on a word.

• 24:46Speaker 05

  Family history of death, Rob?

• 24:48Speaker 04

  It'll just be me again, just watching them all go past. Into his 107th funeral, just sat there.

• 24:57Speaker 05

  Some point, they're gonna have to look at him, aren't they?

• 24:59Speaker 04

  Why is he wearing sunglasses? He's wearing sunglasses to a funeral? No, mate, it's the eclipse. I'm doing a double up.

• 25:07Speaker 04

  Anyway, see how the eclipse goes. Might be a triple up if someone looks at it for too long.

• 25:10Speaker 05

  Did your, um, did your kids enjoy it?

• 25:13Speaker 04

  No, I watched it on the telly, couldn't see shit. Better in Spain. I'll come from what?

• 25:16Speaker 05

  Couldn't see it? You were cloudy?

• 25:19Speaker 04

  Yeah, it weren't great. It weren't gr- it weren't great. I don't think, well, it was better. I think maybe it was too cloudy where we were.

• 25:25Speaker 05

  I think it's, I think, I think it's a bit of a southwesterly thing. I think it's a bit of a.

• 25:30Speaker 04

  You love all that, don't you? Cause you've got all the, all that. You, you have the soul stish, you got stoned. It's definitely a bit livelier down there when it comes to sunshine. There's something going on. Cause Torquay's a microclimate, isn't it?

• 25:41Speaker 05

  Well, Torquay, the English Riviera.

• 25:43Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 25:44Speaker 05

  Yeah, they've got palm trees. So like, come on, won't be long till everyone's got fucking palm trees, whether they like it or not, the way things are going.

• 25:50Speaker 04

  Yeah, I could do a bit of rain, you know?

• 25:52Speaker 05

  I'm, Rob, I am so fucking bored of wearing shorts.

• 25:57Speaker 04

  Right. I've got a question though, Josh. I remember interviewing, interviewing you, talking to you when we were at your house.

• 26:04Speaker 05

  It was, it was an immediate commitment.

• 26:05Speaker 04

  No, no. No. It rained for 70 days non-stop. Didn't it? Right. I get now we're in a drought. It hasn't rained for 70 days.

• 26:14Speaker 05

  Can't we mix it?

• 26:14Speaker 04

  Where the, where the fuck were we putting all that water? Why is there not more reservoirs? Can we fix, can we fix some fucking pipes here? It's pu- it's busting out everywhere and we've got a hosepipe ban. Sort the pipe work out, whoever's in charge of water, and maybe build a big reservoir. It ain't like it don't rain here. Let's put it somewhere where it does.

• 26:36Speaker 05

  We're not used to this climate.

• 26:38Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, but, look, we had it though. Where's it gone? We ain't used that. We didn't collect it all. It's our fault. The world gave it to us. We didn't collect it all. Or we collected and it's leaked. The universe gave us water. Every day for what, three months when you was in Exeter? We, I remember it. You said, oh, it's not raining today. Then it started raining in the podcast.

• 27:01Speaker 05

  Yeah, yeah, I remember that.

• 27:02Speaker 04

  We need bigger holes and new pipes.

• 27:05Speaker 05

  Yep.

• 27:05Speaker 04

  Let's get, let's get politics back to simplicity. We need bigger holes and new pipes.

• 27:11Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 27:12Speaker 04

  It's that simple.

• 27:14Speaker 05

  So you're done with the, the weather breaks this week. The weather breaks this week.

• 27:17Speaker 04

  Yeah, I could do a bit. I just want, I just want to fill grass on my feet as opposed to ginger spices pubes.

• 27:25Speaker 05

  I.

• 27:26Speaker 04

  Do you know what I mean? That sort of rusty, crispy.

• 27:29Speaker 05

  Yeah, it's, it's so bleak. Our, our lawn is a mess.

• 27:33Speaker 04

  Ah, exactly. Well, not everyone's lawn's a mess. Have you seen them exposing celebrities with green grass?

• 27:40Speaker 05

  No.

• 27:42Speaker 04

  Mark Wright and Michelle Keegan.

• 27:45Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 27:45Speaker 04

  Have got a very green garden. It was a male.

• 27:49Speaker 05

  Have they indeed?

• 27:51Speaker 04

  I think they may have had their little sprinklers on. It looks like, like their house has been picked up from like, and dropped in Morocco.

• 27:57Speaker 05

  So how have they, how have, sorry, have the Daily Mail got photos of Mark Wright's lawn?

• 28:01Speaker 04

  Well, I think they've sent up a few drones at celebrities' houses, sees he's got green, green lawn.

• 28:07Speaker 05

  Oh my word.

• 28:08Speaker 04

  He's got very green lawn.

• 28:10Speaker 05

  That is, um, do you know what?

• 28:12Speaker 04

  Are you getting cancelled for using a hosepipe? I think the summer of the days, we'll talk about the, I, I'm loving up being off with the kids and they're old now, but I do need a little bit, like what you were saying, the kids are up when I'm up and then I go to bed when they go to bed.

• 28:27Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 28:27Speaker 04

  So there's no, there's a, there's no time where it's quite, there's questions. And also, I went to the shops the other day to get some school shoes for the kids. And where we got them, yeah, they had this machine that you put the shoes in and it waterproofs them in three minutes.

• 28:44Speaker 05

  Oh.

• 28:45Speaker 04

  For three pound.

• 28:47Speaker 05

  You'd be, you'd be an idiot not to, Rob.

• 28:49Speaker 04

  It's, I've never even seen this machine before.

• 28:51Speaker 05

  You know what? I'd be just putting shoes in. Let's have some fun here. Come on.

• 28:56Speaker 04

  Put just jumpers in, a lot of football.

• 28:57Speaker 05

  Exactly.

• 28:58Speaker 04

  And so, and we had to do all the get back to school, stuff they need for the new year. Have you got the list of like the see-through pencil case?

• 29:06Speaker 05

  I've just realised, I haven't done any of it. Um, we're, oh God, I've got to do it.

• 29:11Speaker 04

  Still got a couple of weeks. We went early.

• 29:13Speaker 05

  But we're away at the end of it. So we've got to get it done in advance, haven't we?

• 29:17Speaker 04

  Were you going away? Or do you not want to say?

• 29:19Speaker 05

  I don't mind. Going to the Isles of Scilly, Rob.

• 29:23Speaker 04

  Is that Scotland or Italy?

• 29:26Speaker 05

  Cornwall.

• 29:28Speaker 04

  No.

• 29:31Speaker 04

  Stop it.

• 29:32Speaker 05

  Get a helicopter from the mainland.

• 29:33Speaker 04

  Sicily.

• 29:34Speaker 05

  No, not Sicily, Scilly.

• 29:36Speaker 04

  That's Italy. Scotland, Isles of Scilly, is that not Scotland?

• 29:40Speaker 05

  No.

• 29:41Speaker 04

  Right, you get a helicopter?

• 29:43Speaker 05

  You get a helicopter from the mainland, out to the Isles of Scilly.

• 29:47Speaker 04

  What, is this a thi- I, sorry. I think I was speaking to Kim Kardashian.

• 29:54Speaker 04

  Isles of Scilly?

• 29:56Speaker 05

  S C I L L Y.

• 29:59Speaker 04

  Right, you, right, see, you drive, so how far is it from your house? You've got to drive somewhere to get.

• 30:05Speaker 05

  Penzance, I think it is.

• 30:07Speaker 04

  Can you get a boat there as well?

• 30:09Speaker 05

  Uh, I don't know, probably.

• 30:11Speaker 04

  You get a helicopter from Cornwall to Cornwall.

• 30:13Speaker 05

  That's what people do to get to the Isles of Scilly.

• 30:16Speaker 04

  No.

• 30:17Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 30:18Speaker 04

  I've never even heard of it. We've seen flights and day trips starting from a hundred thirty nine person return.

• 30:23Speaker 05

  Yeah, exactly.

• 30:24Speaker 04

  It's a spreadsheet, it's like a Ryanair.

• 30:26Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 30:27Speaker 04

  And that's quite a cool experience, going in a helicopter from Cornwall to Cornwall.

• 30:31Speaker 05

  So you get the helicopter across and then you go to the Isles of Scilly, which apparently incredible.

• 30:35Speaker 04

  Wow, that's quite cool.

• 30:38Speaker 05

  He's back on board.

• 30:39Speaker 04

  I am, well, no, I just didn't think.

• 30:43Speaker 04

  And is it like, because Cornwall's a little bit, you know, is it like a good, is it a proper helicopter?

• 30:50Speaker 05

  What do you mean by that?

• 30:52Speaker 04

  When I went to the Isle of Man.

• 30:54Speaker 05

  Right, yeah.

• 30:55Speaker 04

  And I wanted to get back, we spoke about this, but you have to wait till like two in the afternoon.

• 30:58Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 31:00Speaker 04

  They said, oh, you can also just get a flight, like, just book a, like, it's not a private jet. They're like little biplane, like about a little two seater, you could sit like a three, four seater.

• 31:10Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 31:11Speaker 04

  And you just sit in there with a bloke.

• 31:12Speaker 05

  Basically the co-pilot.

• 31:14Speaker 04

  Yeah, and the bloke's sort of just like a rich man from the Isle of Man who likes going back and forward for like, and it's a few, like, it's expensive, it's more expensive than that helicopter. But the planes did look a bit, hmm.

• 31:24Speaker 05

  Well, I don't think it's gonna look like, you know, the one Donald Trump gets off.

• 31:30Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 31:30Speaker 04

  Oh, that's cool, so you're doing that, so, oh yeah, and you're not gonna, they're not gonna have a T G Jones or a W H Smith on the Isle of Scilly, are they?

• 31:37Speaker 05

  No.

• 31:38Speaker 04

  Or a, or a, they might have a Smiggle. Well, that's a, what a fun thing to do for the kids that go in a helicopter like that.

• 31:45Speaker 05

  Yeah, so that's, but that means we are gonna have to get onto our after, um, back to school stuff.

• 31:51Speaker 04

  Um, quick update on the garden, you know, um, we've got plants.

• 31:57Speaker 05

  Oh yeah, I saw them in the Daily Mail, actually, bright green.

• 32:01Speaker 04

  Well, talk about bright green, my father-in-law had a chili plant that he grew from a seed, nerd.

• 32:08Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 32:09Speaker 04

  Anyway, he's grown it, he said, I've dropped two chili plants round, they've got massive chilies on them.

• 32:13Speaker 05

  Yeah, of course.

• 32:14Speaker 04

  I was like, this is a, I don't know when to pick them, I was like, is this a green chili plant or a red chili plant?

• 32:20Speaker 05

  I'll pick one, see if it's good.

• 32:22Speaker 04

  But the, but what if it's not, yeah, but.

• 32:25Speaker 05

  Then, then wait for the second one.

• 32:27Speaker 04

  Well, there's more, there's loads, but they look.

• 32:29Speaker 05

  All right, well, just.

• 32:29Speaker 04

  I don't know, are green chilies a thing or are they just picked to?

• 32:32Speaker 05

  No, I think there are different breeds, a different, yeah, no, it's not like a green banana, I think they're a different.

• 32:38Speaker 04

  Banana.

• 32:39Speaker 05

  It's not a green banana, no.

• 32:43Speaker 04

  So anyway, I had a quid, but text exchange of him asking what, um, what colour, um, the chili should be. Um, I have also, well, Josh, I've been off so much the last couple of weeks.

• 32:54Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 32:54Speaker 04

  Actually, I worked three day, four days last week, but.

• 32:57Speaker 05

  Oh, yeah.

• 32:57Speaker 04

  For me, that's been a home, because I'm in China for ten days.

• 33:01Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 33:01Speaker 04

  You know what I mean? I, it's what me and Lou have found it actually a bit weird, because it's like, I'm home so much, it's a bit like.

• 33:07Speaker 05

  Bit much?

• 33:08Speaker 04

  I, I feel like, have you ever seen Homeland?

• 33:10Speaker 05

  What, the Damien Lewis thing, I haven't seen it, no.

• 33:12Speaker 04

  Yeah, when he comes back from war as after being a hostage.

• 33:15Speaker 05

  Oh, right, yeah.

• 33:16Speaker 04

  I feel like I'm trying to integrate back into normal lot, like.

• 33:18Speaker 05

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 33:19Speaker 04

  I'm still running around like, I've only got ten minutes before I have to go and fly somewhere.

• 33:22Speaker 05

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 33:23Speaker 04

  And like.

• 33:25Speaker 05

  That's my life.

• 33:26Speaker 04

  Tell you what I'm loving about the drought, god, I can drive a ball in golf, it's just bouncing so far because it's so dry.

• 33:32Speaker 05

  Oh, I see.

• 33:33Speaker 04

  I'm not a three hundred yard hitter in a drought. Um.

• 33:37Speaker 05

  What the fuck's going on?

• 33:39Speaker 04

  I'm thirsty.

• 33:40Speaker 05

  You've, what, what's that, two litres of orange squash?

• 33:44Speaker 04

  About that.

• 33:45Speaker 05

  That is mad.

• 33:48Speaker 04

  This, do you know what we call this? The Clara Amfo.

• 33:52Speaker 05

  Why do you call that the Clara Amfo?

• 33:54Speaker 04

  Because when I did Comic Relief or Children in Need, can't remember which.

• 33:59Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 33:59Speaker 04

  I presented with Clara Amfo.

• 34:00Speaker 05

  It was Comic Relief.

• 34:02Speaker 04

  And I, um, got given this glass as a thank you. I think it was made.

• 34:08Speaker 05

  By Clara?

• 34:09Speaker 04

  No, no, no, it was made by a charity that got money from Comic Relief that I think trains people to make glassware.

• 34:18Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 34:19Speaker 04

  And that was my thank you for doing the four hour live show.

• 34:21Speaker 05

  Clara Amfo.

• 34:23Speaker 04

  For no fee, obviously I'm a big charity guy, aren't I?

• 34:26Speaker 05

  Of course.

• 34:26Speaker 04

  So I call it the Clara Amfo because, um, I got it when I, uh, did Comic Relief Clara Amfo, so I call that the Clara Amfo.

• 34:33Speaker 05

  Oh.

• 34:34Speaker 04

  It's just stuck.

• 34:35Speaker 05

  It's just stuck.

• 34:36Speaker 04

  Clara Amfo.

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• 36:15Speaker 05

  What else has happened this week?

• 36:16Speaker 04

  I've got a conspiracy theory.

• 36:18Speaker 05

  Oh, yeah.

• 36:18Speaker 04

  If you want me to do that while you, and then you.

• 36:20Speaker 05

  No, go on, tell me your conspiracy.

• 36:21Speaker 04

  The weather app.

• 36:22Speaker 05

  I don't even look at it anymore.

• 36:24Speaker 04

  Oh, one of my, um, phone weather app said, Monday, cloudy rain. Brilliant, that'd be great, looked at it, half an hour of rain at midnight.

• 36:31Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 36:32Speaker 04

  I do not think.

• 36:32Speaker 05

  The percentage chance, that should be the percentage amount of rain, not the chance of rain.

• 36:39Speaker 04

  No, but it shouldn't be the icon all day, if it's happening for half an hour, it should just be cloudy, no rain. Because I genuinely think phone cut, phone people are doing that, so you stay in and stay on your phone.

• 36:50Speaker 05

  Oh, here we go.

• 36:51Speaker 04

  So you don't go out for the day, you stay in and stay on your phone.

• 36:54Speaker 05

  Here he is, not, not a bad theory.

• 36:56Speaker 04

  Where's me, where's me tinfoil up?

• 36:59Speaker 05

  Keep the rain off.

• 37:00Speaker 04

  Keep.

• 37:02Speaker 04

  Tell, tell where I need to go to keep the rain off, shoe shop, jump in that machine, three quid, waterproof.

• 37:10Speaker 05

  Um, so, I, uh, I, I just, we've, um, my daughter and son are at club today. Yeah. And you have to buy the week.

• 37:23Speaker 05

  It's, it's.

• 37:23Speaker 04

  Right, yeah.

• 37:24Speaker 05

  You have to purchase the full week.

• 37:26Speaker 04

  Of course you do.

• 37:26Speaker 05

  Yeah. And neither of them are that sure about it, but we've really.

• 37:32Speaker 04

  They've gone in today.

• 37:32Speaker 05

  They've gone in today, we really need it to go well, because it, it's a to, I'm not gonna make them go to a club they don't wanna go to.

• 37:39Speaker 04

  Of course.

• 37:40Speaker 05

  Of course, so, there's so much on.

• 37:44Speaker 04

  Yeah, because then otherwise you'd know you've got four days.

• 37:47Speaker 05

  But he's, I, I tell you what it is, Rob, otherwise we paid four hundred and forty quid for one day of. Because it's two twenty each, which is fine, reasonable for a week's, that's what, fifty quid a day.

• 37:58Speaker 04

  But if you only go for a day, that's a big day rate in it.

• 38:00Speaker 05

  Exactly, a day rate is terrible, but a week rate is very reasonable.

• 38:05Speaker 04

  But you know what, though, because if, like, if they went in for today and they never went in again, you're like, I'm living here, that's four hundred and forty pounds. But then if they go in tomorrow, the day rate's cutting off.

• 38:15Speaker 05

  Yeah, and you go, do you know what? That's not that bad, I think it used to be eighty quid if we added a day at nursery.

• 38:25Speaker 04

  But the, one day, you're not, you can't, you cannot spin that.

• 38:29Speaker 05

  No, but I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna say to them, like, because there's nothing worse than the, and we've all done it. But you know when a parent's like, do you know how much that pasta costs me that you want, and, you know?

• 38:42Speaker 04

  Yes, you must like it, and even though if you hate it, you're gonna go every day because it costs me money.

• 38:47Speaker 05

  Yeah, so there's a lot on this pick up between four and four thirty today.

• 38:51Speaker 04

  How are they supposed to know, like, if I said to you, Josh, you're gonna go there for every day for a week?

• 38:56Speaker 05

  And also.

• 38:57Speaker 04

  You couldn't guarantee you'd like it.

• 38:58Speaker 05

  No, and I get it, because they've got to work out the week and they've got to book in advance, all that, do you know what I mean, I get it.

• 39:05Speaker 04

  But it's like when you go to, like, my kids went taekwondo, they settled with a kit, signed me up for the term, did one session, and I'm like, you fuckers. It's my own fault for just seeing if my kids want to see, also, do you really want your kids doing taekwondo every week? I'm at another taekwondo championships, I've.

• 39:23Speaker 05

  So, you know, me and my daughter are doing Duolingo.

• 39:26Speaker 04

  French one, yeah.

• 39:27Speaker 05

  She's doing Spanish, because she's doing it next year at school.

• 39:31Speaker 04

  Why, surely just both do the same language?

• 39:34Speaker 05

  Well, we're not doing it together.

• 39:35Speaker 04

  Well, you're not doing it together then, are you? Well, you just said you were doing it together.

• 39:38Speaker 05

  No, but you're like friends and then you find out they've done their streak or whatever, and it's like, have you done yours today, all that.

• 39:43Speaker 04

  But wouldn't it be better to do the same language and then you can communicate and help each other?

• 39:46Speaker 05

  Maybe I should have done Spanish, that's a good point, actually.

• 39:48Speaker 04

  It's a bigger language than Fran- French.

• 39:50Speaker 05

  I know.

• 39:50Speaker 04

  You don't even go France on holiday.

• 39:52Speaker 05

  I just went with you.

• 39:54Speaker 04

  Yeah, but I went on holiday.

• 39:55Speaker 05

  So last night she fell asleep and then I thought, I looked at my phone and it said you haven't done your streak and I thought, fuck. Because you've got to keep your day streak going.

• 40:04Speaker 04

  But you did it for her.

• 40:06Speaker 05

  I did it for her.

• 40:07Speaker 04

  No, you can't, you've got to let her learn.

• 40:09Speaker 05

  I just couldn't.

• 40:10Speaker 04

  You're learning French, you can't do a bit of Spanish on the side to keep a streak going.

• 40:13Speaker 05

  I picked out quite easily.

• 40:15Speaker 04

  It's easier than French.

• 40:16Speaker 05

  Yeah, I was, I was quite impressed with myself, I might start Spanish.

• 40:20Speaker 04

  I think I'm quite good at Spanish.

• 40:22Speaker 05

  Are you?

• 40:22Speaker 04

  I've got nothing in anything else.

• 40:24Speaker 05

  Yeah, maybe I'll start Spanish, but yeah, I did a streak for her, was that the right thing to do or is that?

• 40:30Speaker 04

  Um, I think maybe if you say to her next morning, look, you've got to remember to your streak, because you didn't, I did it for you, but I'm not gonna do it again, and you lose your streak.

• 40:39Speaker 05

  Oh, my god.

• 40:40Speaker 04

  She's got to learn.

• 40:42Speaker 05

  I did it, I, do you know what, do you know what streak you, I do want you to get, five days in that club, let's see if you can do five days.

• 40:51Speaker 04

  Because also, you're better off going, if you do, look, if you do five days in a club, I'll give you 50 quid. Because then it's cost me, and at least I've got five days of money. You know what I mean? You've paid 4.40, what's the difference if you've been paying 500?

• 41:08Speaker 05

  4.40, 5.40, yeah, yeah.

• 41:09Speaker 04

  Yeah, and it's guaranteed they go.

• 41:10Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 41:11Speaker 04

  You'd take that deal.

• 41:12Speaker 05

  It's an extra tenner for them guaranteed each day.

• 41:15Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, exactly. You'd pay for that insurance if they offered it to you at the top.

• 41:20Speaker 04

  It's 4.40, but you roll the dice, or it's 5.40, but they definitely go all day.

• 41:25Speaker 05

  Oh, my God.

• 41:26Speaker 04

  Right, shall we do a small business shout out?

• 41:28Speaker 05

  Okay, here we go.

• 41:29Speaker 04

  Hello, Rob, Josh and Michael. I love to put our little mother-daughter project, Top Bobbins, forward for a small business shout out. Together with my mum Sue, we make handmade curtains for children's playhouses, the perfect finishing touch to a Wendy house. We also make under-counter hideaway curtains, under-counter hideaway curtains for the home. Under-counter? What? Oh, so if you've got shelves under the counter, there are little curtains on the string? Is that what it is, Josh?

• 42:00Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 42:00Speaker 04

  You weren't listening.

• 42:01Speaker 05

  I was reading my small business shout out to check that it was...

• 42:06Speaker 04

  Under-counter hideaway curtains for the home?

• 42:09Speaker 05

  Yeah, so if you've got, say, an island in the middle of your kitchen, and you've got shelves and you want a kind of little curtain across, yeah.

• 42:19Speaker 04

  I think they need a better name.

• 42:21Speaker 05

  Those type of curtains, yeah.

• 42:23Speaker 04

  Under-counter hideaway curtains for the home.

• 42:25Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 42:25Speaker 04

  Too much. Based in Lichfield, we started the business while mum was enjoying retirement and I was on maternity leave. Mum is the brilliant sewer behind the bobbin, and it's grown into a lovely little mother-daughter project. So, so the daughter's the sort of the business side. So you're putting your retired mum to work making curtains, and she's selling them. We're grateful for a shout out and the chance to spread the word about our small family business. You can find us on Etsy and Instagram, searching Top Bobbins. Thanks so much. Amy, 484 months, and Sue, 872 months.

• 42:56Speaker 05

  Wow, fair play, Sue.

• 42:58Speaker 04

  Fucking hell, Sue.

• 43:00Speaker 05

  You'll like this, Rob. You will like this.

• 43:02Speaker 04

  Go on.

• 43:03Speaker 05

  From last week's podcast around male or female plumber mentions, do you remember that?

• 43:08Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, a little while ago.

• 43:09Speaker 05

  Here's a great business shout out for a company that we came across that's female plumbers. Do you know what it's called, Rob?

• 43:15Speaker 04

  Go on.

• 43:16Speaker 05

  Stopcocks.

• 43:18Speaker 04

  Absolutely love it. Stopcocks.

• 43:21Speaker 05

  Stopcocks, superb. Stopcocks.uk is the, is the website. We used two of their plumbers before and they were great. I always recommend them to anyone who's looking for a plumber. We used to live around the corner from Josh on a road called Pendhurst Road, I know it well, in East London. He used to park his car on the same street, I know it well. We moved to Portugal and for that segment about what's better, sunshine and everything's cheaper and more chilled. Keep it sexy and relatable. Rob, Josh and Michael, best, Jessica.

• 43:53Speaker 04

  Lovely. Stopcocks.

• 43:56Speaker 05

  Stopcocks, it's great. Superb.

• 43:58Speaker 04

  Right, see you later.

• 43:59Speaker 05

  Bye.