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  Welcome to part of my take presented by DraftKings. The crown is yours. Today is Friday, October 23rd, and the Bears are back. The Bears beat the Patriots Thursday night football 32-24. Henry?

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  Yeah.

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  What's up?

• 2:42Speaker 02

  Congratulations. Congratulations. Good win.

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  It was a great game.

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  It was. It was entertaining game.

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  I think what's really entertaining is that we're going to have everybody get to listen to the end of this podcast, which we recorded like five hours ago.

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  I almost.

• 2:56Speaker 03

  And a lot of people said a lot of things.

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  I almost nailed the final score. If the Patriots didn't, I think I said at the end of the show, 31-21.

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  Yeah, it's pretty close.

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  Bears.

• 3:05Speaker 02

  Yeah, no, it was. It was. It was entertaining game. Defense played well. Drake May made got concussed. Bears.

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  Oh, he got concussed.

• 3:13Speaker 02

  Hit him dirty right before the interception. Had a had a doy doy interception in the end zone in the first half, and that ended up being the difference in the game.

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  So concussions.

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  Why didn't he go to the blue tent?

• 3:23Speaker 02

  Big cat.

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  Oh, yeah. Actually, no, I.

• 3:25Speaker 03

  I know. I was at a.

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  No, I give my question to PFT.

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  I'm not. I'm not on the staff. I'm not sure.

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  Okay, my first question, Hank, is can I apologize for not raising my hand at this press conference?

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  Sure.

• 3:36Speaker 03

  Okay.

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  Question.

• 3:38Speaker 02

  Yeah, Dan.

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  Uh, I actually thought Drake May played fine outside of the doy doy interception. He was. It was two really good quarterbacks, but I do have a question because you called Caleb Williams a check down king earlier today, and Caleb Williams was fucking awesome tonight. He was throwing absolute seeds down the field. Luther Burden in the first half was on fire. Rome with that insane. I mean, that throw out of the end zone, there was a couple, the one where he got face masked and he hit, I think it was Rome down the field.

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  And then, yeah, that one, that one was insane. And then he hit the one to Rome where Rome had to like, you know, adjust his body a little bit, and it was just an absolute dart.

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  Do you still think he's a check down king?

• 4:27Speaker 02

  I don't.

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  Okay.

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  That was based off a graphic that was like the shortest yards per throw in the NFL. He was at the top of it.

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  Yeah.

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  Just a little banter. But yeah, no, he played. He played out of his mind. The third down conversions they had, the touchdown in the first half was like third and 17.

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  Mm hmm. To Luther, yeah.

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  That was a touchdown. And then second half, they had him backed up twice, third and pretty long. And he converted both times. It was, we just couldn't, couldn't catch a break.

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  Yeah, he finished with 326 yards total rushing and throwing 308 yards. And he was awesome. Like he was just, his command of the pocket, the way he moves, that he didn't, I still think the hamstring is like maybe bothering him a little bit because he doesn't run as much, but when he needed to run, he had a couple huge runs, but those throws were just gutsy throws, like shadow of your end zone, just ripping it, ripping it and getting, you know, guys rushing in your face and just throwing it right down the field. It was awesome to see Colson Loveland look great. Sucks that Cole Komet hurt his knee, which I think he's going to be out for a while. Deandre Swift was just running his

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  absolute ass off. And the defense had a little bit of trouble in this, in the third quarter, but Dennis Allen has this unit like playing way above, they're punching above their weight.

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  I would say that the defense played okay. Except for one, well.

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  Yeah.

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  There's two things. There's one guy.

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  Yeah.

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  And there was one play in particular. The end of the first half.

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  Was bad. Really bad.

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  What the fuck was that guy doing?

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  So I guess it's an Andy Reid play where it's like everyone sets up for the, the Hail Mary.

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  So the funny, the funniest thing happened in the cave. We were watching this happen live, the very end of the second quarter, and the, the touchdown pass happened and about 15 seconds later, we were just all sitting there kind of in silence because obviously Hank, Hank was excited. He celebrated, he got up, left the room. Everybody in the room is just kind of suffering in silence. And then Steven Che goes, that's actually an Andy Reid.

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  Yeah.

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  Andy replay. And everybody just looks at Jay like, what the, Steven, not right now.

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  It was really bad. We had, I think Kyler Gordon ran into Tina Man. I think Malik Mohammed just turned around and ran away from the play.

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  That's what I was.

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  Jaylen Johnson got cooked. It was, it was a really ugly way, but credit to the Bears and Ben Johnson, because he came out of half, he's like, that's already happened. We're not going to do any, like, what, what can you do about it? And then they come out and score right away. The Bears score right away and it felt like that, you know, that didn't stick. It would have stuck if you come out and you have a three and out, but the way they came out offensively was awesome. And yeah, I mean, even like the, the drive, I should have said it, Cairo Santos, Cairo Santos, like that, the drive that the Bears went on with six minutes left to basically take the game away. And Cairo Santos, he's doinks one from 53 yards. He does not have the strongest leg. I do think that the doink

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  was the reason why Ben Johnson was like, you know what, we're going to let him try a 58 yarder because the doink, even though it was a miss, he had the legs. It hit, it hit up on the upright. And that's the biggest thing with Cairo Santos is very, very accurate, cannot, doesn't have the leg for 50 plus, 55 plus. But he was like, it seems like he has a leg tonight, so we're going to try it. And that won the game.

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  Yeah.

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  Because that was, that was it. Like if he misses that, there's a pretty good chance the Patriots go down the field and, and win the game because they were at midfield.

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  The fourth quarter, the two drives that the Bears had 51 yards, 13 plays, took about seven minutes off the clock. The next one, 12 plays, 51 yards, took about five minutes off the clock.

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  It was awesome.

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  So just kind of, they, they just strangled the clock to death at the end of it. Ben Johnson called a play that I, I'm glad did not work out.

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  I think he's, I see, I'm so far, here, explain the play and then I'll give you my theory, which is I will fully admit is a sicko. I might be too in love with Ben Johnson.

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  Okay. All right. So, so the play was, I believe Caleb was under center for it. Takes it and then hands the ball off, hands it forward.

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  To Tooney, yeah.

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  To Tooney, the, the left guard.

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  Yeah.

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  Who then pivots, turns around, gets tackled about one yard short of the, of the line to gain for a first down. And I'm glad that he got tackled short of it because if he had run into the end zone and steamrolled three dudes.

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  Yep.

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  And then they would have had to call it back because it's an extremely illegal play to run. I would have been so mad that we saw this big boy just stiff arm people get in the end zone. So I'm glad that he got tackled on that. It does seem like a play that, like, we all watched it, and I don't think any of us know the exact rule of, of what is and is not a legal handoff.

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  Yeah.

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  But, but Ben Johnson probably should know what that rule is.

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  Okay, so I, I'm assuming that they just didn't execute it well. I would assume that he knows the rule and that was, you know, maybe it's, he's supposed to take a further step back. I don't know. But I'm such a sicko in love with Ben Johnson guy at this point in my life that I saw it and I was like, they actually did that on purpose to show tape of it not working. And then they're going to do a variation off of it. Again, I told you that take was fucked up.

• 9:38Speaker 03

  Yeah, you're deep. You're deep into it. Hey, listen.

• 9:40Speaker 04

  I need to know how you think this could possibly work as a.

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  Max, I'm giving you an alternate.

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  Look at this.

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  I'm giving you an alternate explanation, Max.

• 9:49Speaker 03

  Max, you're too focused on the film right now.

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  I'm giving you an alternate explanation.

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  I'm an all 22 guy.

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  I know, I know.

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  You're not listening to me.

• 9:54Speaker 03

  You're not listening, big cat. Big cat has rationalized by saying it was intentionally wrong.

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  Intentionally wrong. So that at some point in a key position later in the season, he's going to run a variation off it where he was intentionally like, let's put something on tape that people have to be ready for.

• 10:10Speaker 04

  No one's going to be ready for this.

• 10:11Speaker 03

  No, so Max, here, big cats actually.

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  Understand what I'm saying.

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  Big cat's cope might be a little bit wrong. I think that his cope should be that.

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  Why would he?

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  He ran it wrong on purpose.

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  Right.

• 10:20Speaker 03

  So that way, all the other coaches are going to be like, he's never going to try this shit again.

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  Yeah.

• 10:25Speaker 03

  Because he knows that it's illegal.

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  That works too.

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  And then the next time you run it.

• 10:28Speaker 04

  So that's not what big cat was saying.

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  But that works too.

• 10:30Speaker 03

  No, I think mine makes a little bit more sense.

• 10:32Speaker 00

  No, I, but again, can we rewind the tape? I said it was a sicko take. I said.

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  I just wanted to make sure that we're not, we're not entertaining this take.

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  I, no, we are.

• 10:42Speaker 03

  Big cat, run the take back for Max. Max would like to hear it again.

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  I, I think Ben Johnson ran it wrong on purpose to put, put something on tape that then he can run a variation off of it where it's like, that was a pretty significant play. Like if, if he runs it and it's like a two yard gain, people like, ah, whatever. That was a flag. Everyone replays it. Now it's like, oh, fuck, what are they doing? There's going to be something. There's going to be, this is the guy who created the stumble play.

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  Again.

• 11:10Speaker 04

  But why would they need to study this? Cause if you're an opposing team, you want them to run this play.

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  Yeah, they're gonna run something different off it.

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  Cause you get a penalty every time they run this play.

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  You watch.

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  So you don't need to study this play.

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  It's gonna be so different next time. I can't wait till he runs.

• 11:25Speaker 04

  Different play.

• 11:25Speaker 00

  Yeah, no, but it's gonna look like that.

• 11:27Speaker 04

  But they could have just run that to begin with.

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  Yeah, and next time it's gonna be nuts.

• 11:32Speaker 04

  But that has nothing to do with this play.

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  I disagree. So if they, if they ran that play, but let's say he handed the ball for, you can, you can hand the ball forward to a tight end, obviously.

• 11:45Speaker 03

  You just can't do it to ineligible.

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  Yeah, I just disagree with whatever you're saying right now. I think everything Ben Johnson does has a, has a plan that will be revealed at a later date. He is Kaiser Soze.

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  So he killed like a bunch of families and stuff.

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  He had to do what he had to do to win a football game. Yeah, Hank, thoughts?

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  I'm with Max.

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  Okay, what Hank, can you say Caleb Williams is good?

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  He's good.

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  Is good, not was good.

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  He's good.

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  He's good.

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  Good quarterback.

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  Cause I actually thought Drake, outside of the interception, Drake may played well, and he doesn't have a lot of receivers to, going towards.

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  And no offensive line.

• 12:23Speaker 03

  Yeah, no offensive line. He probably should have had another 60 yards. AJ Brown has become a problem.

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  Disagree.

• 12:31Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 12:32Speaker 02

  The, the defender's arm was in AJ Brown's hands.

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  Malik Mohammed, he made a nice play breaking up his hands. I feel like probably, probably could have cut. What do you always say, Hank? I, I got a friend that says you can touch it, you can catch it.

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  It's true, but it's tough to, like, it's different when you're got a receiver's arms in between your arms.

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  But yeah, this is, no, I, I know what you're, come on, keep it going, do the thing.

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  What? I'm, I'm done. I'm just happy about the Bears. I don't, I, I said that the, I thought Drake may played really well. It was two, two really good quarterbacks dueling it out.

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  It was actually a very fun game to watch.

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  And Caleb made a couple of plays. I mean, the sack was the only one that was like, that was not good, but it didn't matter because Cairo Santos still nailed the field goal. But it was just like, it, every time we needed a big throw, Caleb stepped up. And it's just, again, I think, I think he's reached that next level where everything is just going slower for him. And he sees everything and he's just, he's so calm in the pocket and he's so elusive, like that, that throw to Rome was, could have easily been a sack. Like where the guy's coming right at him and he's just, he sidesteps him and it's not like a sidestep to then run, it's a sidestep to throw a fucking dart down the field. So yeah, I think the Bears are good. Are you, are you, where are you at Hank with the, with that game? Just get rested?

• 13:54Speaker 02

  Yeah, I mean Thursday night game, first of all, are kind of flukes in the first place.

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  Agreed. Strong agree.

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  Yeah.

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  And it was, it was, I mean, the Patriots played a good game, given the injuries and, and they just needed to get one third down stop. They didn't get it. And then one doy-doy concussion play, like that's the difference.

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  So you think he's, he's tuned up?

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  So we're saying if he didn't get concussed, it wouldn't have been?

• 14:18Speaker 02

  I think he got hit hard, dirty in the head and then it took him, you know.

• 14:23Speaker 03

  Dirty play.

• 14:24Speaker 00

  So it was right after that was the interception?

• 14:26Speaker 03

  Do you think the Bears were headhunting?

• 14:28Speaker 02

  I, it was, it is, it is what it is. It's football, it's football. It's, it's a physical sport.

• 14:32Speaker 00

  Sounds like an excuse.

• 14:33Speaker 02

  But no, this doesn't deter, you know, division no longer runs through us. I, I, I have to admit that.

• 14:41Speaker 02

  It was a good game. It was a, it was a playoff, felt like a playoff game. It's a good test. You, you feel, you feel those losses hard and you move on.

• 14:50Speaker 03

  Yeah.

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  Four and three is a good record.

• 14:54Speaker 02

  It's not bad.

• 14:55Speaker 03

  You could still win the AFC East.

• 14:57Speaker 02

  Yeah, we could.

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  Still in it Hank, still in it. Uh, Max, did you have, did you have something that you wanted to?

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  What, cheer up our boy?

• 15:07Speaker 03

  Cheer up our boy with, yeah.

• 15:08Speaker 00

  Oh, you get, you something for Hank to cheer him up?

• 15:11Speaker 04

  I would love to cheer up our boy. He didn't have a great night.

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  Cheer him up.

• 15:13Speaker 04

  I do have a surprise for you, Henry. Actually memes, you have a surprise for him.

• 15:18Speaker 05

  Uh, if you would like to reach under your cushion.

• 15:22Speaker 00

  Oh, under your cushion.

• 15:22Speaker 02

  I would not.

• 15:23Speaker 00

  Well, come on, come on.

• 15:24Speaker 03

  Why don't you come in here and you reach under Hank's?

• 15:26Speaker 00

  Reach under your cushion.

• 15:27Speaker 02

  I know.

• 15:28Speaker 00

  Hank, Hank, reach under the, can I reach under your cushion?

• 15:31Speaker 02

  Sure.

• 15:31Speaker 00

  All right.

• 15:31Speaker 04

  Reach under the cushion.

• 15:33Speaker 03

  I, I'd like Hank to help.

• 15:36Speaker 00

  Hank, it's not, it's not.

• 15:37Speaker 03

  Reach under the cushion Hank.

• 15:38Speaker 00

  I'm putting my hand under the cushion. Nothing's gonna bite me or anything.

• 15:41Speaker 02

  I don't, I don't, I don't want, I don't want a gift from memes.

• 15:44Speaker 00

  No, it's not. It's not. It's actually not a, it's not a gift. It's not a gift from memes. It's a gift from Polar.

• 15:52Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 15:53Speaker 04

  Oh, no.

• 15:58Speaker 04

  He's reaching under the cushion.

• 15:59Speaker 05

  He's reaching under the cushion.

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  He's reaching under the cushion.

• 16:01Speaker 03

  Get in there nice and deep.

• 16:02Speaker 04

  Under the cushion.

• 16:02Speaker 03

  There you go.

• 16:07Speaker 04

  He felt it, he felt it.

• 16:08Speaker 03

  Hank, what's going on?

• 16:09Speaker 02

  Doll, it's a Hank doll.

• 16:11Speaker 00

  What? No, no, no, no.

• 16:13Speaker 04

  It's not just any Hank doll.

• 16:14Speaker 00

  It's not just any Hank doll. It's a special Hank doll that's new and appropriate.

• 16:18Speaker 04

  Oh, look at that.

• 16:20Speaker 00

  Squeeze it in the microphone Hank.

• 16:22Speaker 04

  Squeeze.

• 16:23Speaker 00

  In the microphone.

• 16:25Speaker 02

  This thing sucks.

• 16:26Speaker 03

  It farts.

• 16:26Speaker 00

  It's farts. It's a Hank farting doll.

• 16:28Speaker 04

  You remember when you wore that?

• 16:29Speaker 00

  Yeah, it's so, for people who are just listening, it's Hank in his Pelicans hat from the famous fart with Kellen Moore. And it's gonna be a dog toy that we're gonna put on sale. It's a new, it's the new Hank 2.0 dog toy.

• 16:44Speaker 03

  Or the car stick 5.0.

• 16:46Speaker 00

  Yeah, that has, so if you squeeze, if you squeeze this Hank dog toy, uh, it farts.

• 16:56Speaker 00

  See?

• 16:57Speaker 03

  Little too, is that cute? Let me get one. Yeah, Blake's gonna love this.

• 17:01Speaker 00

  Oh, Hank doesn't want it, but it is, it's, the Pelicans hat is so great.

• 17:06Speaker 03

  It's really good.

• 17:06Speaker 00

  Cause people forget that the Saints facility, it's the Pelicans and the Saints.

• 17:10Speaker 03

  It's right there.

• 17:11Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 17:11Speaker 03

  Also, the chair was the, the cavern of the chair.

• 17:15Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 17:15Speaker 03

  The converture.

• 17:16Speaker 00

  Hank, it's a different picture of you.

• 17:19Speaker 02

  It is.

• 17:19Speaker 03

  You look actually very handsome.

• 17:20Speaker 00

  Yeah, you look handsome, you look happy. Are you happy with, is this cheering you up at all?

• 17:25Speaker 02

  No, nope.

• 17:26Speaker 00

  No?

• 17:27Speaker 02

  It's not.

• 17:27Speaker 03

  Why are you taking a picture of it? Seems like it cheered you up a little bit. Oh, Hank.

• 17:35Speaker 00

  Whatever. Oh, come on Hank.

• 17:40Speaker 03

  Bo, bo, bo, bo, bo.

• 17:44Speaker 03

  I can't exist. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

• 17:47Speaker 04

  Look how happy he looks in that. Look at that smile. Do you like this pic, do you like this picture better than the F40?

• 17:55Speaker 02

  It's funnier. The hat, the hat.

• 17:58Speaker 04

  The hat is so good. And it, and it makes a fart noise.

• 18:02Speaker 00

  Dogs are gonna love this.

• 18:04Speaker 04

  No, it does. Fart noise.

• 18:05Speaker 00

  That's all squeak.

• 18:08Speaker 04

  That's, that's a fart.

• 18:09Speaker 00

  Actually, no, it's not a fart. It's air coming from his butt. Big difference.

• 18:13Speaker 04

  Big difference.

• 18:14Speaker 00

  We tried to sue TMZ over this. It's a completely different sound.

• 18:18Speaker 04

  Let's, let's pull up that to you.

• 18:19Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 18:20Speaker 03

  Let's take a look.

• 18:20Speaker 00

  It's air coming out of his butt.

• 18:22Speaker 03

  Hank, I think this is awesome. I can't wait to give this to Blake. He's gonna go crazy.

• 18:25Speaker 02

  That's awesome, man.

• 18:26Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 18:28Speaker 00

  Do you love it Hank?

• 18:29Speaker 03

  Isn't there part of you that loves how much joy you bring people's dogs?

• 18:32Speaker 02

  No.

• 18:34Speaker 03

  Alright.

• 18:38Speaker 00

  Okay, so anything else on this game? Kyler Gordon also another, I think he has four sacks. He's played like, like not, I think he's played like 40 snaps or something. It's pretty ridiculous. So he's been awesome. I don't know, 21 snaps this season. That can't be right. I think he's played more than that, but he's got four sacks. Yeah, I, uh, Caleb was awesome. He looks like he's taking that next leap forward. I mean, the, the completion percentage people have gotta be in hell because he's, I think he's over 70% this year now. And it's not, it's not checked downs. It's taking what the defense gives you, where if it's not a deep shot, then just take the, take the easy thing. You gotta take something away.

• 19:18Speaker 02

  Ben Johnson's a good coach. You guys had guys open in the middle of the field the entire night.

• 19:22Speaker 00

  Yeah, no, I mean, the, the way that it's, it's basically.

• 19:25Speaker 02

  I said, I, I actually was, I was, I was dead accurate the first drive of the game and when the fourth down, I said, this is the game.

• 19:31Speaker 00

  You did.

• 19:32Speaker 02

  And it was the game.

• 19:33Speaker 00

  You called the game when the, when the Bears stopped the, the Patriots on the, on fourth down. That was off of a third and six handoff that only got one yard.

• 19:40Speaker 03

  Well, smart. They did self scouting.

• 19:41Speaker 00

  Yeah. No, Dennis Allen's got, I, I don't know how the Bears defense is doing it. Again, there was moments where it was like, what is going on? Because you can't get a pass rush, but the pass rush, the, the sack on, uh, I think it was Tienman and Hardy, the sack on Drake May, the second to last drive was massive. The, to make it third and 20. That was a big one that, uh, got the ball back and that's, you know, bleeding the clock out.

• 20:05Speaker 03

  What do you think about the hard count where, where the Patriots jumped off sides in the fourth quarter?

• 20:09Speaker 00

  I, cause it was on purpose.

• 20:10Speaker 03

  Yeah, it was on purpose, right? Vrabel had them jump on purpose?

• 20:13Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 20:13Speaker 03

  It's cause it was third and inches.

• 20:15Speaker 00

  It was third and inches. They had three timeouts. He knows that, and it was smart. It was a smart play because like you, you, if you burn a timeout on the Bears just getting an inch, that's, you're kind of screwed then.

• 20:25Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 20:26Speaker 00

  So that was, he was under the two minute warning, I believe.

• 20:29Speaker 03

  Yeah, Vrabel, I, that's, that's one guy that when it comes to those types of scenarios, like he knows his shit.

• 20:34Speaker 00

  Yeah, the clock.

• 20:35Speaker 03

  Whoever he has working with him.

• 20:36Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 20:37Speaker 03

  He knows exactly, it's so valuable to have a coach that's good at that type of stuff at the end of the game. That was the right call.

• 20:42Speaker 00

  Yeah. I didn't, yeah, I didn't walk away like that. Those are two really good teams. That wasn't, would you agree Hank?

• 20:47Speaker 03

  Superbowl preview.

• 20:48Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 20:50Speaker 00

  Okay, anything else from the game?

• 20:52Speaker 03

  Anything else, Max?

• 20:53Speaker 00

  And we do talk about it at the end.

• 20:54Speaker 04

  Do you want?

• 20:55Speaker 00

  Oh, there's some, you have some, another gift for Hank?

• 20:58Speaker 03

  I was asking Max if there was anything else.

• 21:01Speaker 04

  You.

• 21:02Speaker 00

  I don't know about it this second. I knew about this gift.

• 21:04Speaker 04

  What, what my friend may have shown me?

• 21:06Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 21:08Speaker 03

  I don't know. I thought that you had something like on the, your messages that were just pulled up.

• 21:12Speaker 04

  Oh shit.

• 21:13Speaker 00

  Oh shit, is this from Glenn? I love how Glenn always does the football emoji when he sends a DM.

• 21:20Speaker 04

  Yeah, he's a Star Trek guy, right?

• 21:22Speaker 00

  Star Trek. He's a big Star Trek guy.

• 21:24Speaker 04

  Star Trek guy.

• 21:24Speaker 00

  And he's a football guy. That's pretty damn cool.

• 21:28Speaker 03

  Mm-hmm. Football and Star Trek.

• 21:30Speaker 00

  Wouldn't you agree Hank?

• 21:31Speaker 04

  Sometimes it takes a while for these videos to look.

• 21:33Speaker 03

  I've never watched Star Trek.

• 21:34Speaker 04

  Glenn is thorough in his breakdown.

• 21:37Speaker 00

  It's truly thorough.

• 21:38Speaker 03

  There's no way he could have done a thorough one. The game just ended. How long, how long does this end, Max?

• 21:43Speaker 04

  2:45.

• 21:43Speaker 03

  2:45. That's nothing.

• 21:45Speaker 04

  That's nothing.

• 21:46Speaker 03

  Let's see what Glenn has.

• 21:47Speaker 04

  This is quick for Glenn. This is from, it looks like this may be from this game.

• 21:54Speaker 06

  Welcome back to another tape watch. We're gonna study the tape. We're gonna watch the film. I'm gonna wait for all the all 22 to come out on the Patriots Bears game. But thanks to all the glintlemen out there, we have been able to covertly install our own cameras. We did this Wednesday night at Soldier Field. We got the drones warmed up. So yeah, we smashed the drone button. Thanks to you guys, very glinnerous donations. And we were actually able to do our own all 22. So we are able to break down this tape. And what I saw tonight was a great football game. Absolute bomb from Drake May to close out the second quarter. Look at this nuke that he delivered. You won't see that from the New York Jets because the New York Jets have been outscored 100 to 6 in the last two minutes of the second quarter. People do forget that.

• 22:36Speaker 06

  We watched this airstrike from Drake May. That made the score look a lot closer than it was. I'll tell you what, the Patriots would have won this game if it weren't for this costly first half interception. Another red zone pick from Drake May early in the game. And look at that. I mean, his tight end is so open. If Drake hits him in stride, he's still running. The fact of the matter is, he was not in stride. He was actually very, very severely underthrown. Terrible red zone pick from Drake May. And the mechanics were so off. It got me thinking. Are we sure that Drake May is right-handed?

• 23:16Speaker 02

  Glenn's wrong.

• 23:18Speaker 06

  I ran 9,000 simulations of this game, and this is what it would look like if Drake was left-handed. Just a much smoother, more natural throwing ability from Drake May. It's a wonder that he hasn't tried to switch to being left-handed. It's really, really confusing to me. Now, I know that a lot of you have accused me of being Jaden Daniels hater. And while it is true, I do take it a little bit more serious and judge him more harshly because I have that much faith in him. It's unfair if I don't apply the same principles to other quarterbacks in the NFL like Drake May. One thing that Jaden has taught us, he has taught us the value of virtual reality, of simulation theory. So what I've done is I've gone ahead. I've made a full-scale simulation for Drake to practice.

• 24:02Speaker 06

  Go to he's still running.com. We can run through these simulations, a daily challenge game, where you see if you have what it takes to beat an NFL defense. And Drake May, you put yourself in his shoes. Drake, put yourself in your own shoes. Let's see. Who do you throw the ball to on this one example that's taken from the Bears game on Thursday night? Do you throw it to your tight end or do you throw it to the linebacker?

• 24:22Speaker 02

  You have no idea.

• 24:23Speaker 06

  If you Drake May, you probably selected linebacker. But guess what? That's why it's a daily challenge game. You could always try again, get better tomorrow. That way, the next time that situation comes across in a real game, Drake is gonna hit him in stride, and he's still gonna be running. This has been a quick flash update from Glenn. Welcome back to.

• 24:40Speaker 00

  Oh, wow. Okay.

• 24:41Speaker 04

  Wait, should we play the game?

• 24:42Speaker 00

  Yeah, let's play the game. I'm playing it right now.

• 24:44Speaker 04

  I was just on it.

• 24:45Speaker 00

  He's still running.com.

• 24:47Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 24:47Speaker 00

  Wow. Hey.

• 24:49Speaker 04

  Great URL.

• 24:50Speaker 03

  This is pretty cool.

• 24:50Speaker 00

  Look at that.

• 24:50Speaker 04

  All right, let's start today.

• 24:52Speaker 03

  Let's see what you can do here, Max.

• 24:53Speaker 00

  All right, start today's tape. All right, so wait. It says targeting Eli Rudin in the end zone. DeMarco Jackson jumped the route. Who are you throwing it to? The linebacker or the tight end? Uh, I think you want to throw it to the tight end, right?

• 25:09Speaker 03

  Let's click and find out.

• 25:11Speaker 00

  All right, tight end.

• 25:14Speaker 03

  No, it was actually, who did he throw it to? It looks like in that case, he threw it to the linebacker.

• 25:19Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 25:20Speaker 03

  But I think you're right. You should want, but if you were of a reminder, this is what happened.

• 25:24Speaker 00

  Got it. Great.

• 25:25Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's very realistic.

• 25:26Speaker 04

  You're not trying to say who he should be throwing it to. It's who he did throw it to?

• 25:30Speaker 03

  That's gonna be the next up. It's a daily challenge, so I'm sure that there'll be different wrinkles to it.

• 25:33Speaker 04

  Glenn told you all of this?

• 25:34Speaker 03

  Yeah. Well, I know in the video, he said it was a daily challenge.

• 25:38Speaker 04

  All right, so let's try this one.

• 25:39Speaker 03

  Okay, who do you throw this one to?

• 25:40Speaker 04

  Week one at Seattle, late fourth quarter, forced into tight coverage.

• 25:44Speaker 03

  Deep red zone.

• 25:45Speaker 04

  Do you think he throws it to the wide receiver or the cornerback?

• 25:47Speaker 03

  I think he throws it to the wide receiver.

• 25:49Speaker 04

  All right, should we try wide receiver?

• 25:50Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 25:51Speaker 04

  All right.

• 25:53Speaker 04

  Ah, shit. All right, let's try the next one.

• 25:56Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 25:58Speaker 04

  This one, I think he may have thrown it to the cornerback.

• 25:59Speaker 03

  What is this?

• 26:00Speaker 00

  Deep shot under pressure.

• 26:02Speaker 04

  Deep shot under pressure.

• 26:03Speaker 00

  Corner had leverage.

• 26:04Speaker 03

  Um, I saw this one because it was on one of Glenn's. No, I think, no, I think this was a touchdown pass.

• 26:09Speaker 00

  Oh, is it the wide receiver?

• 26:11Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 26:11Speaker 04

  All right, try that one.

• 26:12Speaker 00

  Click wide receiver.

• 26:14Speaker 04

  Ah, shit.

• 26:17Speaker 03

  Oh, but you know what? That's not fair. It was tipped. Remember?

• 26:20Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 26:22Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 26:23Speaker 03

  What else do we have here?

• 26:23Speaker 00

  All right, so this is week three at Jacksonville, bootleg left. Defender was sitting on it. Who wins this play?

• 26:31Speaker 03

  I honestly don't know.

• 26:33Speaker 04

  I think it was the corner.

• 26:34Speaker 00

  Okay, let's try the corner here.

• 26:35Speaker 04

  All right, let's see.

• 26:37Speaker 06

  He's still running.

• 26:38Speaker 04

  Oh. So if you get it right, you got hit with the he's still running?

• 26:44Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 26:45Speaker 04

  Oh, that's pretty good.

• 26:47Speaker 03

  That's, yeah, I guess.

• 26:48Speaker 00

  Okay. Week four, Buffalo. And zone look.

• 26:52Speaker 03

  I love how Max is laughing at his own website that he made.

• 26:54Speaker 00

  Kept the only, uh, they kept the only early narrative going. Who wins this play? You wanna try cornerback again?

• 27:02Speaker 04

  Yeah, let's see.

• 27:03Speaker 00

  Let's try cornerback.

• 27:04Speaker 06

  He's still running.

• 27:10Speaker 02

  It's a good game.

• 27:12Speaker 03

  It's kind of addicting.

• 27:12Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 27:13Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 27:13Speaker 00

  Holy shit.

• 27:14Speaker 03

  I think there's also a comment section on that.

• 27:16Speaker 00

  See results?

• 27:17Speaker 03

  Yeah, see what your results are.

• 27:19Speaker 00

  Let's see what our results are.

• 27:20Speaker 04

  See the results.

• 27:21Speaker 00

  Okay, we got.

• 27:22Speaker 04

  D.

• 27:23Speaker 03

  Needs more tape.

• 27:24Speaker 00

  Needs more tape. We gotta get back in the lab.

• 27:26Speaker 03

  Click the comment section at the bottom. I don't know. I haven't clicked on that.

• 27:29Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 27:30Speaker 04

  Comment. You want me to?

• 27:32Speaker 03

  Yeah, post a comment.

• 27:35Speaker 04

  What should we say?

• 27:37Speaker 00

  He's still running?

• 27:38Speaker 03

  Valuable tape. I learned something today.

• 27:42Speaker 00

  What, what are your thoughts, Hank? Do you like this game?

• 27:47Speaker 02

  No.

• 27:48Speaker 03

  It's not a game. It's a simulator.

• 27:49Speaker 00

  A simulator. Sorry, sorry, sorry.

• 27:52Speaker 03

  Not a fan?

• 27:53Speaker 00

  No.

• 27:56Speaker 02

  PFT's such a loser. He just has like, you just have no life.

• 28:02Speaker 03

  I don't know what you're talking about.

• 28:04Speaker 04

  Glenn made this.

• 28:05Speaker 03

  Glenn, number one, Glenn made it. And number two, it looks like something that maybe you could whip up in about 10 minutes.

• 28:15Speaker 02

  You just can't, you got nothing original anymore. It's, you know, you made one dog toy and then you just run that back.

• 28:19Speaker 03

  Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

• 28:21Speaker 02

  You did the Glenn thing was funny for a week and you just can't give it up.

• 28:24Speaker 03

  This is not mine, Hank. This is not mine. I had nothing to do with the dog toy.

• 28:28Speaker 04

  It is a good-looking dog toy.

• 28:29Speaker 03

  It is a good-looking dog toy.

• 28:31Speaker 04

  And I do think that if your dog, if your dog liked the first one, they're probably gonna like the second one even more.

• 28:36Speaker 00

  Yeah, because this one farts.

• 28:38Speaker 04

  This one farts.

• 28:39Speaker 00

  They're out of the butt.

• 28:40Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 28:40Speaker 00

  Big difference. Big difference.

• 28:44Speaker 03

  I'm gonna bookmark that website.

• 28:46Speaker 00

  Yeah, he's still running.com. Okay. I mean, the simulators are all the rage right now.

• 28:51Speaker 04

  Yeah, it's like 82 and O.

• 28:53Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 28:54Speaker 04

  Two-minute drill. He's still running.

• 28:58Speaker 00

  Hey, can I give you something that actually might cheer you up?

• 29:01Speaker 02

  Sure.

• 29:02Speaker 00

  Did you watch any college football tonight?

• 29:07Speaker 02

  Yeah, I mean, I don't, hey, I got nothing against PFT. I root for him and his teams. Like, I'm not, I don't get joy out of his losses.

• 29:16Speaker 03

  No, you don't. You would never.

• 29:19Speaker 02

  And like a regular season, like, they had no chance at the playoffs. So if they made the playoffs, they're gonna lose by 100. It's like, it's, JMU is not a real, it's not a real football school. It's like a little fun thing for PFT. It's like the playoffs. Oh, shit, we lost by 100, but we made the playoffs. At least you don't have to do that. At least we don't have to listen to that. I think JMU could beat fucking Alabama.

• 29:40Speaker 03

  I think they lost by 17 to Oregon. I just wanted to cover. We covered.

• 29:48Speaker 00

  Against Oregon.

• 29:49Speaker 03

  Against Oregon.

• 29:50Speaker 00

  Yeah, you lost to.

• 29:51Speaker 03

  Lost to App State tonight. Like Hank said, like Thursday night football game's kind of fluky. Anything can happen. Hank knows ball. What can I say? It was, uh, yeah, App State was a better team tonight. Our defense kind of fell apart in the second half. And not to make excuses, we did have our starting running back go down with a hamstring, so he was not available in overtime. That was tough. But yeah, App State, really hard place to play. And most of all, I blame the kid that said that he was gonna eat dog poop if JMU lost to App State.

• 30:21Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 30:21Speaker 03

  And then he deactivated before the game, ensuring that JMU would then lose to App State. And JMU probably won't win another, another football game until that guy logs back on.

• 30:31Speaker 00

  Ultimate coward move. Fletcher Shotgun Cox, CPA, I wonder if he's actually CPA, said, "If JMU, if JMU loses to App State, I'll eat dog shit out of a cup on video." He deactivated in like the third quarter. That was insane. That's insane.

• 30:49Speaker 03

  It's crazy. We all knew where this was gonna go. I thought, I thought about offering myself as tribute.

• 30:55Speaker 00

  Oh, my God. No.

• 30:58Speaker 03

  But that was the only way that we were gonna win.

• 31:00Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 31:00Speaker 03

  Because of the bad vibes that he put on the program. But yeah, it was, listen, this JMU team, they're not, they're not the same team as last year. They're not the same team as the year before. A lot of, a lot of obvious weaknesses on this team. If you, if you've been watching them, they've had some close calls. So we were not a dominant force as we were in years past. So I'm not surprised that we eventually lost. And it feels like every time we have a great season going, it is App State that comes in and crushes our dreams of that. So yeah, congratulations to them and fuck you to the guy that didn't eat the dog poop.

• 31:33Speaker 00

  Yeah. That's, that's, that's a crazy move. If you say it, you can't, you can't deactivate.

• 31:39Speaker 03

  Real loser shit.

• 31:40Speaker 00

  Yeah, real loser shit.

• 31:41Speaker 03

  Right, Hank? That's real loser shit.

• 31:43Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm. Shout out Ebo's 30th birthday today.

• 31:48Speaker 03

  I know.

• 31:48Speaker 00

  That sucks.

• 31:49Speaker 03

  I did wish him a happy birthday.

• 31:50Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's brutal. We love Ebo, but that's a bad way to have your birthday end to App State. Okay, what else we got? Uh, the boys went to banner night. PFT, you were on the wood.

• 32:03Speaker 03

  Yeah, I was at the Wizards game, yeah.

• 32:06Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 32:06Speaker 03

  It was a great time. Wiz looked good, frisky. Anthony Davis MVP.

• 32:11Speaker 00

  You got mic'd up. I saw that. That was awesome.

• 32:13Speaker 03

  They mic'd me up. I always wanted to like, talk to somebody, be like, hey, just so you know, I'm federales.

• 32:19Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 32:19Speaker 03

  I'm feds right now. Don't talk to me.

• 32:20Speaker 00

  Did you say that to Steve?

• 32:21Speaker 03

  I said that to Steve.

• 32:21Speaker 00

  Yeah. Uh, talk to us about banner night, though.

• 32:24Speaker 02

  Wait, talk about the wood. What was Alex saying on the wood?

• 32:27Speaker 03

  I mean, being courtside like that is just so cool. It was right behind the Wizards bench, so I got to see like the guys interacting with each other. And surprisingly, I think like, Deandre Ayton seemed like he was the all-time vibes guy.

• 32:38Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 32:38Speaker 03

  I know that he hasn't always been seen as that in the past, uh, but he was like, he was the one that was getting everybody worked up. Um, we've got, the problem is the Wizards, they actually might be too deep right now.

• 32:49Speaker 00

  Oh, wow.

• 32:49Speaker 03

  They've got a lot of really, really good role players on that team.

• 32:52Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 32:53Speaker 03

  And I love Bub Carrington. He's, he's become my favorite player, uh, to watch just because he's, he's like the ultimate scrappy guy.

• 33:00Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 33:00Speaker 03

  Great defender. He's like a high-energy guy. And then Trey Young outside the first quarter, um, looked like he fit in really good. So I'm excited to watch the team grow and see how they gel together. But I, I, I do think, just based off one game, and it was against the Bucks, um, I, I feel confident in my one through eight seed prediction for the Wizards.

• 33:20Speaker 00

  Love that.

• 33:20Speaker 03

  And yeah, Hank, to answer your question, sitting right there next to the court was awesome.

• 33:26Speaker 00

  Love it. Uh, what did you say, Max?

• 33:29Speaker 04

  Where were the feet?

• 33:31Speaker 00

  He said right next to the court.

• 33:32Speaker 03

  Yeah, I was sitting right next to the court.

• 33:34Speaker 00

  You said you were sitting right next to the court.

• 33:36Speaker 03

  Like directly next to the court. Like Patrick Ewing was right in front of me.

• 33:41Speaker 04

  That's, that's sick.

• 33:42Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 33:43Speaker 00

  That is sick. Did he block your view?

• 33:45Speaker 03

  A little bit.

• 33:49Speaker 03

  It's Patrick Ewing, and there's this one guy, I think he's from France. He's another assistant coach on the team. He's like seven foot four. And he was directly in front, but yeah, it was, it was still good. Got to see a lot. I got to see most of the game.

• 34:01Speaker 00

  Uh, boys, banner night. You guys all went to New York. Talk to us.

• 34:09Speaker 04

  Talk about the ceremony, boys.

• 34:10Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 34:11Speaker 05

  Banner night was special. They had Mike Breen, uh, do the intros, and then they had the starting, they had four of the starting five from the 73 championship team, give out the rings. Uh, we're just gonna focus on that because there's currently a story breaking about James Dolan just being an absolute scumbag.

• 34:26Speaker 00

  Oh, no.

• 34:27Speaker 03

  I read that.

• 34:28Speaker 00

  What happened?

• 34:28Speaker 03

  It's, uh, it seems like it was something that was just like, created out of fanfiction about somebody, like from somebody who hates James Dolan.

• 34:35Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 34:37Speaker 03

  Saying that instead of giving rings to all the assistants, he sent out like phishing emails.

• 34:43Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 34:44Speaker 03

  To, to trick them into thinking they were getting rings.

• 34:48Speaker 00

  Oh, wow.

• 34:48Speaker 03

  But then you clicked on something and it was a cybersecurity.

• 34:50Speaker 00

  Oh, my God.

• 34:51Speaker 03

  Is that real?

• 34:53Speaker 00

  That's, that's as evil as when All Business Pete did that to me with a free Uber Eats gift card.

• 34:58Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 34:59Speaker 00

  Only time I've clicked on a company email.

• 35:01Speaker 03

  Means I don't want to spread fake news, so you tell me if, if any of this is wrong.

• 35:04Speaker 04

  I mean, it's getting, the, the Athletic reported it.

• 35:07Speaker 00

  Oh, man.

• 35:08Speaker 03

  Is that what it was?

• 35:10Speaker 05

  Yeah, that's what they're saying.

• 35:11Speaker 04

  That's, that's what they're saying.

• 35:13Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 35:13Speaker 04

  But we can focus, we can focus on.

• 35:15Speaker 03

  Let's talk about the banner.

• 35:16Speaker 04

  Yeah, the banner was so sick. It took like 20 minutes for it to go up, which I liked. Stephen didn't really love it, but.

• 35:22Speaker 00

  Stephen Che.

• 35:22Speaker 04

  Yeah, I loved it. I, I, I loved every second of it. Uh, the game itself was sloppy, but that really didn't mean anything. But we got a banner.

• 35:34Speaker 03

  What do you mean it didn't mean anything?

• 35:36Speaker 04

  No, we're just telling one, just another game.

• 35:38Speaker 03

  Who'd you play?

• 35:39Speaker 04

  Uh, 76ers.

• 35:41Speaker 03

  Max, what'd you think?

• 35:45Speaker 04

  It's game two. It's game, or.

• 35:48Speaker 05

  It's game one.

• 35:49Speaker 04

  But there's, there's been two games.

• 35:51Speaker 03

  And?

• 35:53Speaker 04

  I'm gonna overreact. This team is fucking awesome.

• 35:56Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 35:57Speaker 04

  And I'm so down to get my heart ripped out because it's incredible what I'm watching. The first half tonight, they got a little swept up in the moment, moment of the, you know, LeBron's first game, the introductions, there's new lights in the stadium, which I fucking hate, but that's one thing or the other. The defensive intensity in the second half tonight and the defensive intensity against the Knicks, game one, game.

• 36:25Speaker 04

  I thought it was gonna take a while for this team to gel, gel, the chemistry to get there, and we're already humming against the two, the two Eastern Conference final, finals participants last year. The 76ers team could be special.

• 36:39Speaker 00

  Wow. Okay. Special.

• 36:43Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 36:44Speaker 00

  Special.

• 36:44Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 36:45Speaker 00

  All right. What do you think, Hank?

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  29-point lead tonight. Nothing. Nothing for the Cavs.

• 36:52Speaker 02

  6ers are scary.

• 36:53Speaker 04

  Oh, no. Yes, yes, yes.

• 36:56Speaker 02

  It's a scary team.

• 36:58Speaker 04

  Oh, Jalen Brown, really good player.

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  Great player.

• 37:01Speaker 00

  Damn.

• 37:04Speaker 05

  Quite possibly the worst trade in NBA history. They should investigate it.

• 37:10Speaker 00

  Zach, did you love banner night?

• 37:12Speaker 03

  Banner night was awesome. Uh, MSG definitely didn't disappoint. It is a, uh, overwhelming experience. And the banner also floated up there. It was pretty nice to see. They took their time, let it sink in a little bit. The other night was not about what happened on the court. It was about acquiring hardware.

• 37:27Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 37:27Speaker 03

  Those guys worked hard. They got rings and, and it's October. So like, what are we doing?

• 37:31Speaker 00

  Yeah. Why are we even playing these games?

• 37:32Speaker 03

  Like, we haven't hit Halloween yet.

• 37:34Speaker 00

  Right.

• 37:35Speaker 03

  Yeah, it was awesome.

• 37:35Speaker 00

  Right.

• 37:36Speaker 03

  All time.

• 37:36Speaker 04

  Yeah, it didn't feel like they were gonna play a game after that.

• 37:39Speaker 00

  They did.

• 37:40Speaker 04

  Makes sense. No, they did. Yeah, they did. But the last team to lose banner night went back to back, so.

• 37:45Speaker 03

  What was, uh, what was up with Roger Goodell?

• 37:48Speaker 04

  He's just there.

• 37:49Speaker 03

  Why? Do we know? Knicks fan?

• 37:54Speaker 04

  I have also a theory about that.

• 37:56Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 37:57Speaker 04

  Don't James Dolan and Adam Silver hate each other?

• 38:00Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 38:01Speaker 04

  Do you think that that was kind of like a shot being like, we're gonna put Roger Goodell front and center and not have Adam Silver hand out the rings?

• 38:09Speaker 03

  Like, this is what a real commissioner looks like?

• 38:11Speaker 04

  God, kinda.

• 38:13Speaker 03

  Okay. Yeah, sure.

• 38:15Speaker 04

  Like, it was so strategic of where they put Roger Goodell during that

• 38:21Speaker 04

  ring ceremony, and it was very notable that Adam Silver did not give out the rings.

• 38:27Speaker 03

  Right.

• 38:28Speaker 04

  Why?

• 38:29Speaker 03

  Hmm. Don't know.

• 38:31Speaker 00

  Ask yourself that. By the way, we should give just one last shout out to our guy Florio with the theory of the, of, of, of the week. This is why Mike Florio has a special brain because the NFL cannot do anything without Mike Florio being like, but why is that? His theory goes, the Bears have, uh, Thursday night football, then they have Monday night football against the Seahawks, then they have Sunday night football against the Bucks. We saw the Falcons, they went three in a row, I believe, uh, primetime games. So Florio basically was like, the NFL is testing out, putting teams three times in a row on primetime because we're going to get to a point where they start playing Tuesday and Wednesday games, and in order to do that,

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  you'd have to have the same teams play, like, you know, shuffle it up, but like, Tuesday would be the Bears and Patriots. Then the following Wednesday would be the Bears versus, you know, whoever played on Wednesday, and the Patriots would play on Tuesday against whoever played on, on Wednesday as well. And so this is his theory, and I, I believe it. I believe it. And I'm not gonna like when they do Tuesday and Wednesday football.

• 39:36Speaker 03

  Yeah, there, it's just like a way to test it out, to see what the unintended consequences are that we, you don't see coming. I, my theory was just that all the teams that are playing in primetime for the most part, they get the back-to-back-to-back jobs, um, that they are a lot of over teams. And so the NFL just wants points in primetime.

• 39:54Speaker 00

  That could be it too. Okay. Uh, let's get to ourselves. By the way, I don't know if I said it, but Roma Dunze, I, he's, he's been, uh, chastised, but he came up huge tonight. I think he caught the onside kick as well. Just big catches. Fucking awesome. Hank, any last words? Buy the toy? Are we putting it on sale right now? Or is it gonna be Black Friday? Oh, we are. Oh.

• 40:16Speaker 03

  Very cool.

• 40:16Speaker 04

  It's, it's on sale right now.

• 40:18Speaker 00

  It's on sale.

• 40:18Speaker 03

  You can get it right now.

• 40:19Speaker 04

  Also, Hank, are you seeing Jalen Brown, Jason Tatum online right now?

• 40:23Speaker 02

  I did see that.

• 40:24Speaker 03

  What happened?

• 40:26Speaker 04

  I guess.

• 40:27Speaker 03

  Are they having a, uh, a comment?

• 40:29Speaker 04

  Report posted a video of Jason Tatum talking about how he didn't get Jalen Brown traded, and Jalen Brown decided to comment on that tonight saying, cat.

• 40:38Speaker 00

  Ooh.

• 40:39Speaker 03

  Hmm. I, again, I, I don't think these guys like each other.

• 40:43Speaker 04

  Could've traded him to the West. Had to trade him to Philly.

• 40:50Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 40:50Speaker 04

  Fucking Philly.

• 40:51Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 40:56Speaker 00

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• 43:33Speaker 03

  Yeah, I don't, I don't, but you're gonna say it anyway.

• 43:36Speaker 00

  Well, it always happens when we have to change our clocks, which is this Saturday, and you get that, that pang in your heart and you're like, man, this season's going by fast. We're at week seven right now. Yeah. Like we're, you know, we're gonna, we're gonna be changing the clocks. We're gonna wake up a little disoriented, Sunday morning, week seven. How did we get to week seven already?

• 43:58Speaker 03

  I understand that it's not the correct math, but for anybody with a brain, seven is half of 17. Yeah, we're halfway done through the season.

• 44:05Speaker 00

  Yep. Yep. It feels that way. So we got a loaded slate, some good games, some not so good games, some winnable games for maybe the J ETS Jets. Memes, we'll get to that. Jets and Dolphins, but we're gonna start, as we always start, with Hank's favorite game of the week, Steelers at Saints.

• 44:24Speaker 02

  Oh, oh.

• 44:25Speaker 00

  In Paris, Saints, plus three and a half, over under is 44 and a half. The Steelers, by the way, are taking the red eye.

• 44:34Speaker 03

  They're gonna do the fly in, fly out.

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  Think they're leaving Friday night. They're arriving, gonna go straight to the practice field and then try not to adjust their body clock, go to sleep, wake up. I feel like this is a bad idea when you have a 42-year-old quarterback.

• 44:51Speaker 03

  I was gonna say, it's, it's one thing to try to do this with, with Matt Stafford. It's another, with, with a spry, young Matthew Stafford.

• 44:58Speaker 00

  Right.

• 44:58Speaker 03

  It's fresh out of the University of Georgia. It's another thing with old balls, Aaron Rodgers.

• 45:02Speaker 00

  Right. So that might be an interesting wrinkle here. I also, do we ever get an update on Mike McCarthy and his injury?

• 45:10Speaker 03

  Just that he got stepped on.

• 45:12Speaker 00

  I'm, here's my fear is that when he went into the blue tent, they gave him a concussion test and Mike McCarthy's concussion test was probably just the doctor holding a mozzarella stick and going back and forth and having him follow it with his eyes. Then he ate the mozzarella stick. Now he sees the blue tent, not as the concussion tent, but the free snacks tent.

• 45:31Speaker 03

  It's, it's like a dog hearing the dinner bell.

• 45:33Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 45:34Speaker 03

  Yeah, I was thinking it would be like a picture menu that they would give him. What is this? It's Mushu Guy Pan. All right, he's good. Send him back out there.

• 45:40Speaker 00

  They hand him a cookie. They're like, what do you do with this? He just starts eating it. I think, okay, you're good.

• 45:44Speaker 03

  I think he, somebody might have stepped on him. It might have been phantom pains. I don't know. But yeah, he just kind of looked down at his foot. Maybe his foot just broke. Sometimes old people's feet and hips, they just, they break. They just give out.

• 45:56Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 45:56Speaker 03

  And maybe that's what it was. He looked back at it like it was an Achilles. He's like, oh, there's something wrong with my foot. I don't know how that flight is gonna treat him. My, if it, if it's like a serious foot injury, you don't want to fly with those.

• 46:09Speaker 00

  No, he's gonna have to wear the compression socks.

• 46:12Speaker 03

  Maybe double layers of him this time. Yeah. So no, I don't know what's, what's gonna go on with, with him in terms of the injury situation. But this does feel like, I mean, the Saints have been good away from the dome this year. They just haven't been good in the dome.

• 46:26Speaker 00

  And it's a home game for them, right? Because of the French culture?

• 46:29Speaker 03

  It should be. Are they playing it on clay?

• 46:31Speaker 00

  I don't know, but it is, yeah. They are technically the home team. I don't know. I, I'm like stuck in the, I actually don't, we've talked about the Steelers a lot. I actually don't think they're the same old Steelers because I think they are better offensively than the Steelers of the last five years, and they're slightly worse defensively. So in like Aaron Rodgers, now he's just kind of doing whatever he wants to do, which is throwing the ball a lot. Like Jeremy Bernard is good.

• 47:00Speaker 03

  Do you think that McCarthy and Aaron Rodgers have, have an understanding worked out where McCarthy is going to call plays and then Aaron Rodgers is going to run whatever play he wants?

• 47:09Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 47:09Speaker 03

  And then they're going to pretend like it was the play that Mike McCarthy called?

• 47:13Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 47:14Speaker 03

  Both of them?

• 47:14Speaker 00

  Yeah, then they'll just go to, it'd be like, yeah, Mike called that. Well, maybe, maybe they have an understanding that like, hey, listen, all the good plays, we're just gonna give it to you, Mike.

• 47:21Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 47:22Speaker 00

  You know, I got your back on this.

• 47:23Speaker 03

  Yeah, I'll, I'll give you, I'll toss you some credit every now and again. Great play call. But in reality, I don't know that Mike McCarthy is actually calling all the plays.

• 47:31Speaker 00

  No, I'd agree. By the way, one matchup here is from my guys at Sports Info Solutions. Steelers have been one of the most, more inside heavy run games this year with almost half their runs going between the guards and a top five success rate. That should be trouble for the Saints because they have allowed a bottom 10 success rate on inside runs. I don't think the Saints defense is very good. That's not really saying anything. I mean, J.J. McCarthy was throwing YOLO balls, but he did light them up.

• 47:58Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 47:58Speaker 00

  So I feel like the Steelers should be able to win this game. I'm probably gonna take the over in this game and just assume that our theory that Roger Goodell has to make these international games fun.

• 48:10Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 48:11Speaker 00

  Will continue. So that's, that's, that's where I'm going with this game.

• 48:14Speaker 03

  Yes. Not a, not a bad theory to work with there. What do you think about the Saints kicking situation?

• 48:20Speaker 00

  Is it bad?

• 48:21Speaker 03

  Well, Daniel, yeah, probably, but Daniel Carlson, the kicker for the Saints, he might not be making the trip because his wife's gonna go into labor.

• 48:28Speaker 00

  Uh oh.

• 48:28Speaker 03

  And so I think they brought the Irish kicker, the guy that they had last year, Charlie Smith. I think they brought him back up.

• 48:35Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 48:36Speaker 03

  From the practice squad. So I think he's gonna be the one that's making the trip.

• 48:39Speaker 00

  Charlie Smith.

• 48:41Speaker 03

  The Boondock Saint. Yeah.

• 48:42Speaker 00

  Yeah. All right. I like this guy. An Irish kicker, like that's, that's fun.

• 48:47Speaker 03

  I like that. Yeah. I have a question for you about Kellen Moore.

• 48:50Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 48:51Speaker 03

  Do you think that Kellen Moore is able to like, to coach the team hard, like aggressively? Because he's been put under a lot of pressure from, directly from the ownership.

• 49:01Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 49:01Speaker 03

  Saying like, hey, if you don't fix this, there's gonna be a lot of changes around here. Do you think that he has, because he's a nice guy, do you think he has the gear in him to be a real dickhead and, and two players out? Do you think he's going to try to do that?

• 49:15Speaker 00

  Possibly.

• 49:15Speaker 03

  Because that's what I'm worried about.

• 49:16Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 49:17Speaker 03

  In a situation like this, a guy that doesn't have that personality, do you remember that episode of South Park where the devil was fucking Saddam Hussein?

• 49:23Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 49:24Speaker 03

  And Saddam was like, talk dirty to me. And the devil tried and it just didn't sound right.

• 49:28Speaker 00

  Right.

• 49:28Speaker 03

  That's what I imagine Kellen Moore trying to like grab somebody by the face mask is like.

• 49:33Speaker 00

  Yeah. It's like, that's not you, dude.

• 49:34Speaker 03

  It's not you.

• 49:34Speaker 00

  What he needs is he needs a defensive coordinator or strength coach that's a real, like maybe ex-military hard ass who could do that stuff for him. And then he can come in and be like, hey, let's go, boys. Let's, let's win this game.

• 49:45Speaker 03

  I didn't know that he was talking to you. He must have done this all on his own.

• 49:48Speaker 00

  Oh, man. That's crazy.

• 49:50Speaker 03

  Well, I mean, their strength coach is a, is a dickhead. Remember the neck workout?

• 49:53Speaker 00

  Oh, my God. He snapped your neck.

• 49:55Speaker 03

  He almost broke it.

• 49:55Speaker 00

  Yeah. By the way, here's a fun stat that really is just the, oh, Sam Darnold missed a few games stat. Tyler Shuck and Chris Olave are the number one in yards for a QB wide receiver duo, 580 this year.

• 50:11Speaker 03

  Wow.

• 50:11Speaker 00

  So, which is again, that's just the stat that Sam or Drew Locke threw to Jackson Smith and Njigba for a couple of games.

• 50:19Speaker 03

  I think, yeah, Olave, is he second in the NFL?

• 50:21Speaker 00

  He might be, yeah.

• 50:22Speaker 03

  I think he's second in receiving yards, having a great season.

• 50:24Speaker 00

  Yeah. The, so the second in the duo is Dak Prescott, C.D. Lamb, and then third and fourth are actually Jordan Love, Christian Watson, Jordan Love, Matthew Golden.

• 50:33Speaker 03

  Oh, that's crazy.

• 50:34Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 50:35Speaker 03

  Golden probably should have had another like 120 yards last week, too.

• 50:38Speaker 00

  Catch the ball. Yeah. Okay. Hank, any thoughts on the international game? You would be tuning in. I noticed you're not in Paris.

• 50:46Speaker 02

  I didn't make it to Paris. Had some, had some commitments here. I'll be watching the game. I'm excited for this one. Paris should be beautiful, beautiful this time of year.

• 50:55Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 50:57Speaker 02

  I like the Saints.

• 50:58Speaker 00

  Okay, like the Saints.

• 50:59Speaker 03

  Any particular reason?

• 51:02Speaker 02

  Saints, French.

• 51:03Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 51:04Speaker 02

  Home game.

• 51:04Speaker 03

  Florida Lee.

• 51:05Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 51:06Speaker 03

  Kellen Moore called soccer, the other football version of football. Which is an awesome way to put it.

• 51:11Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 51:12Speaker 03

  Well said.

• 51:12Speaker 00

  Nailed it. He nailed it. All right. Back stateside. So I think I actually main TV probably is gonna be what Ravens Bengals?

• 51:23Speaker 03

  I think so.

• 51:23Speaker 00

  But the other one that I have first listed that could, you know, maybe be switched back and forth is Niners at Falcons. Falcons plus three, over under 50 and a half. I think this game is fascinating. Because the Niners defense has been very, very good this year, right? Like, we've all been like, very impressed with the Niners defense being younger and looking good. They're good at stopping the run. But then you also have to ask yourself, okay, who have the Niners played? And that doesn't mean they're not good, but they played the Rams when the Rams tried to cheat time in Australia. The Dolphins, the Cardinals, the Broncos, the commanders and Seahawks.

• 52:06Speaker 00

  The Seahawks, you know, that's a tough game, but the other teams I listed, especially we have some sound coming through, Max. Other than the Seahawks, like those are some broken offenses.

• 52:18Speaker 03

  The commanders.

• 52:19Speaker 00

  Broncos are a broken offense.

• 52:20Speaker 03

  They are. The commanders kind of lit them up in the second.

• 52:22Speaker 00

  I know. That's what I'm saying. So are the Niners, is the Niners defense? And I basically, it's a roundabout way of saying, I feel like this could be a big Bajan game. And people maybe don't see it coming because the Niners have been so good. And it does feel like one of those desperate NFL games where the Falcons really need this. And the Niners, short week, travel, road, they're gonna just try to survive this. Mike Evans might not play, which also the fact that it's a might and not just a Mike Evans isn't playing is insane.

• 52:53Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 52:54Speaker 00

  Like, well, how are they just gonna keep bringing him out and hoping that?

• 52:57Speaker 03

  Keep stretching him?

• 52:58Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 52:58Speaker 03

  Like in between every play?

• 52:59Speaker 00

  But I think this might be a hungry dog pick, Hank.

• 53:02Speaker 02

  I agree.

• 53:02Speaker 00

  Do you like this in the hungry dog?

• 53:04Speaker 02

  Yeah, I mean, the 49ers are a little scary because they're, they're so good. But then that second half kind of has me thinking like they could, if they played like that the whole game, they would have got smoked.

• 53:13Speaker 03

  Yeah, they looked gettable in the second half. They very easily could have lost that game. And it is, where he Morris coaching that defense who was recently with the Falcons. He might be thinking like, okay, fuck these guys. I'm gonna show them what they're missing. And to your point, they might not actually be as good as we think they are on defense.

• 53:32Speaker 00

  Yeah, they're 12. The teams that the 49ers have beaten are 12, 22 and 1.

• 53:39Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 53:39Speaker 00

  So the third easiest scheduled by opponent win percentage through the season through. And again, I think the Niners are a very good team, but there's gotta be a moment. And we'll get to it too, with, I actually think kind of the same with the Seahawks Chiefs, where I think the Seahawks will win that game. There's gotta be a moment where they get caught because this is just such a hard league to win in week to week.

• 53:58Speaker 03

  So, yeah, I, I don't disagree with that. Lost in all this discussion about that we had, at least on this show, mostly centered around the, the Jaden Daniels question in the second half and that fourth and two. Kyle Shanahan would have been very much to blame for giving that game away. Not just the defense.

• 54:15Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 54:15Speaker 03

  The way that he called plays, it did, it felt like that Super Bowl.

• 54:18Speaker 00

  Well, it changed too, when Mike Evans went out.

• 54:20Speaker 03

  They, they took no time off the clock on offense in the second half. And it was, it was actually like a disaster class that he put out there. And he should have been under fire for, if, if we had been able to, to close that game out, that would have been like 80% on Kyle Shanahan's shoulders.

• 54:36Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 54:36Speaker 03

  For the way he called that second half.

• 54:39Speaker 03

  I don't know. Dan Quinn was there. Maybe just anytime Kyle gets around reminders of that Falcons team. He kind of reverts back to his old ways. I don't, I don't hate the Falcons at all in this game.

• 54:49Speaker 00

  Yeah. All right. I got a dumb stat for everyone that is, uh, my, my favorite dumb stats are whenever we just pick an arbitrary number of games. And then we, you know, look back and say, he has more than, more than this guy. Brock Purdy arbitrary number of games, first 55 games. Brock Purdy has nine more wins than Peyton Manning in his first 55 games. He has more passing yards than Aaron Rodgers in their first 55 games. And more touchdown passes than Josh Allen in their first 55 games. Which really, other than the Aaron Rodgers one, I don't know how impressive it is because Josh Allen struggled his first year. Peyton Manning struggled. His team went, won like three games. But I think the Aaron Rodgers one's kind of interesting.

• 55:31Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 55:32Speaker 00

  Cause that's, that, that was.

• 55:33Speaker 03

  He was ready to go.

• 55:34Speaker 00

  Yeah, he was ready to go.

• 55:35Speaker 03

  By the time he started, yeah.

• 55:36Speaker 00

  Brock Purdy's really good.

• 55:37Speaker 03

  Brock Purdy's having an awesome season.

• 55:38Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 55:39Speaker 03

  And, um, yeah, yeah. McCaffrey, I feel like is back to what he was a season or two ago.

• 55:45Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 55:45Speaker 03

  He looks really good. This is probably the, the best matchup of, of running backs that we'll have all year.

• 55:49Speaker 00

  Yeah. Uh, do we have anything to say about the Falcons do logo?

• 55:53Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah. I got a, I got some thoughts on it.

• 55:55Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 55:56Speaker 03

  What were your thoughts on it, Big Cat?

• 55:57Speaker 00

  I thought it looked kind of cool. I didn't immediately think Nazi, but the internet did. I also think the internet's having fun with it. It's a very different. There's a difference between the internet trying to be like Falcons, how could you do this?

• 56:10Speaker 03

  Right.

• 56:10Speaker 00

  And Falcons, this is funny. Let's Photoshop a bunch of pictures of Hitler in front of a Falcons, Falcons flag, which it's the latter.

• 56:17Speaker 03

  You know what it is for me? It's the brown.

• 56:18Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 56:19Speaker 03

  The, the brown color that they used really, really popped it off.

• 56:22Speaker 00

  I think it's also the head of the, the Falcon does kind of have imagery of, like, I feel like the Nazis use some of that imagery.

• 56:31Speaker 03

  This isn't the first time that the Falcons have done this though.

• 56:33Speaker 00

  Really?

• 56:34Speaker 03

  Remember back in 2014, they posted like their old logo. Maybe it was like a throwback week or something and their old logo looked like, uh, the Albanian flag.

• 56:42Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 56:43Speaker 03

  And everybody was like, what the fuck is this Falcons? They just, they can't help themselves. With this one, I think it was the brown because the, the black, the red, and Max is just Googling Nazi logos.

• 56:54Speaker 04

  Well, I want to, I want to do a side by side.

• 56:56Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 56:56Speaker 03

  Well, yeah, there's.

• 56:57Speaker 04

  I feel like that's, that's appropriate for the, for the situation.

• 57:00Speaker 00

  It's the colors.

• 57:01Speaker 03

  It's the brown. The brown.

• 57:02Speaker 00

  See the, see the, uh, now we're just looking at Nazi logos. The, uh, did you see, do you see the, the one with the eagle? Yeah. You see the one with the eagle? Click the eagle.

• 57:12Speaker 04

  The one with the eagle.

• 57:13Speaker 00

  That one. Yeah. Yeah. So like that type of, yeah, that type of imagery of.

• 57:17Speaker 04

  By the way, not an eagle.

• 57:18Speaker 03

  It's the beak. It's a Falcon. Yeah.

• 57:20Speaker 00

  Is it a Falcon?

• 57:21Speaker 04

  I don't know.

• 57:21Speaker 00

  I think the Nazi.

• 57:22Speaker 03

  The Nazi one.

• 57:23Speaker 00

  Eagle.

• 57:23Speaker 03

  Yeah. Nazi one's an eagle.

• 57:25Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 57:26Speaker 04

  This has nothing to do with eagles.

• 57:29Speaker 00

  Well, no, but the Nazi one, they, they would chant E A G L E S right before Hitler took the stage.

• 57:35Speaker 03

  That's incorrect.

• 57:36Speaker 00

  Okay. All right. That's our.

• 57:38Speaker 03

  It's, it's the, the tan color that they use on the redesign and also the black stripe through the middle. I just saw some of the funniest photoshops of, of Arthur Blank.

• 57:47Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 57:47Speaker 03

  They took the mustache down a little bit. My thoughts on it were the, they do have a history of hating Julian Edelman. So that kind of checks out.

• 57:56Speaker 00

  It's, uh.

• 57:56Speaker 03

  And they love throwing bombs to London.

• 57:58Speaker 00

  Yeah, there you go.

• 58:00Speaker 03

  He's having a good year.

• 58:01Speaker 00

  It's true. That's very true. Uh, is it? So this is hungry dog, Hank.

• 58:07Speaker 02

  Not officially.

• 58:08Speaker 00

  Okay. Does the logo get you off the hungry dog at all?

• 58:13Speaker 02

  They're not wearing those jerseys, right?

• 58:14Speaker 00

  No, I don't.

• 58:15Speaker 03

  Just the armband.

• 58:16Speaker 00

  Yeah. Yeah.

• 58:21Speaker 00

  Uh, okay. Let's go to the next game.

• 58:23Speaker 03

  I'm glad that we've evolved as a society where we're not trying to like get the.

• 58:26Speaker 00

  Cancel them.

• 58:27Speaker 03

  The, the art director fired.

• 58:28Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 58:29Speaker 03

  The Falcons.

• 58:29Speaker 00

  Yeah. The, the internet's having fun with it. Browns Titans, Titans plus one and a half, over under 37 and a half. Titans had a hell of a week. So we had a situation where a Titans player, uh, left practice to go get their gun and then was talked down. So it was Jordan Elliott, who has now since been cut. This happened last week, not this week. He went to his car to retrieve his gun after a practice altercation with, uh, J C Latham last Thursday. He's been cut. I actually thought Robert Salad handled it pretty well with his press conference being like, hey, this is, seemed like a cry for help. And he's got no other issues, you know?

• 59:10Speaker 00

  If anyone's looking for a defensive tackle, he's a, he had a bad lapse in judgment, but he's worthy of a signing.

• 59:17Speaker 03

  Yeah. I mean, I don't think we know what, what actually happened and everything that led up to it. I don't think that they're interested in sharing that, which I guess that's, that's between them and the locker room. But yeah, uh, I think that as far as a, a coach goes, that's a, that's a great way to handle it.

• 59:32Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 59:32Speaker 03

  Like, don't, don't just like cast judgment on him and fire him, knowing that he's in a mentally fragile state of mind. I don't think that's gonna help anybody.

• 59:39Speaker 00

  Yeah. Uh, this is one of those games over under 37 and a half. I mean, how, how are they gonna score 40 points in this game?

• 59:47Speaker 03

  I don't know. I don't know. Uh, I don't know that the Browns have that many fourth quarter points in them to get up to 38. Is that what you said?

• 59:54Speaker 00

  Yeah, 38. The Browns defense is really good. The Titans defense is really good. The Browns offense outside of the fourth quarter is really bad. The Titans offense just period is bad. What am I missing? I know it's a lot. I know you like can get fucked by like a pick six or a punt return, but still. Who, where are the points coming from in this game? This actually is a game, when we do our cave parlay, we have to ban a pick from this game.

• 1:00:18Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 1:00:19Speaker 00

  There cannot be a pick from this game.

• 1:00:20Speaker 03

  Agreed.

• 1:00:21Speaker 00

  I do not think there's gonna be a plethora of touchdown scores in this game.

• 1:00:24Speaker 03

  Do you know the last time that the Tennessee Titans won back to back games?

• 1:00:29Speaker 00

  Oh my God. It's gotta be two years, right?

• 1:00:31Speaker 03

  Can anybody guess?

• 1:00:33Speaker 00

  I'm gonna say like, I'm gonna say like early.

• 1:00:35Speaker 02

  22.

• 1:00:36Speaker 00

  24.

• 1:00:37Speaker 03

  It was November of 2022.

• 1:00:39Speaker 00

  Oh, wow.

• 1:00:40Speaker 03

  Four years ago. It's been four years since they've won.

• 1:00:42Speaker 04

  You're a beast today, Hank.

• 1:00:43Speaker 00

  You are a beast. You're locked in.

• 1:00:45Speaker 03

  Locked over.

• 1:00:46Speaker 00

  He's locked in. Did you see Deshaun Watson had the whole team to his house for a party? Uh, that was kind of cool.

• 1:00:51Speaker 03

  That was nice. Yeah.

• 1:00:52Speaker 00

  You see?

• 1:00:53Speaker 03

  They had the food trucks?

• 1:00:54Speaker 00

  Yeah. I'm not gonna be fooled by Deshaun Watson having, having people over being like, what a teammate.

• 1:00:59Speaker 03

  Yeah, what a guy. I noticed he kept them outside.

• 1:01:02Speaker 00

  Yeah. Are the, are the Browns good?

• 1:01:05Speaker 03

  Yeah. I think they're, I think they're goodish and I think that their schedule is about to get really good.

• 1:01:10Speaker 00

  They are the schedule this year.

• 1:01:11Speaker 03

  Like the schedule, if you look at the Browns, what they have for the next, I don't know, month and a half or so. They can fatten up pretty nicely.

• 1:01:19Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:01:21Speaker 03

  I don't know that I would trust them in a playoff game.

• 1:01:23Speaker 00

  No, but they could.

• 1:01:25Speaker 03

  But I think they're, I think they're.

• 1:01:26Speaker 00

  Goodish. What's their schedule coming up? I mean, they, they have to win this one. This, this is, I think Dom did say this was a must win and I would actually agree with him. If you want to be a playoff team, you've got to win. So they play the Titans at the Steelers. That was a game that was not flexed. We kept commanders, uh, Eagles, Sunday night football.

• 1:01:44Speaker 03

  I'm sorry, America.

• 1:01:46Speaker 00

  At the Saints.

• 1:01:49Speaker 00

  They suck in the dome Texans Raiders Bengals. Okay. Yeah, maybe the Browns. I don't, I don't know if the Browns are good.

• 1:01:58Speaker 03

  I think they're goodish. But if they, I'll say this, if they do lose this game, this would be the loss that like, forget whatever good vibes you had going.

• 1:02:06Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:02:07Speaker 03

  You're probably, you might lose out.

• 1:02:09Speaker 00

  I did see a crazy stat. So divisions in which every team is above 500 through week six of the season in NFL history. The 2005 NFC East through six weeks, they all were above 500. 2024 NFC North, 2025 NFC North, 2026 NFC North, 2026 AFC North. That's the whole list.

• 1:02:34Speaker 03

  Wow.

• 1:02:34Speaker 00

  So the NFC North, three years in a row, and now the AFC North has joined them. Every single team above 500 through six weeks.

• 1:02:40Speaker 03

  Yeah. Good division.

• 1:02:42Speaker 00

  Yeah, really good division.

• 1:02:43Speaker 03

  I have a did you know?

• 1:02:44Speaker 00

  Oh, okay.

• 1:02:45Speaker 03

  Did you know? That Calvin Ridley is on the Titans?

• 1:02:50Speaker 00

  I didn't, but I would have if you put a gun to my head, I would have been like, yeah, he's.

• 1:02:54Speaker 03

  What team is he on? If I framed it, what team is Calvin Ridley on?

• 1:02:57Speaker 00

  I would have just defaulted to the last team I remember him on.

• 1:03:00Speaker 03

  Right. So he's still on the Titans. He didn't play that much last year. I don't think he's played this year.

• 1:03:04Speaker 04

  No, I think he's.

• 1:03:05Speaker 03

  Much? He didn't play much last year. I know that.

• 1:03:07Speaker 00

  Well, they don't really have an offense.

• 1:03:08Speaker 04

  I feel like I remember him playing against the Eagles.

• 1:03:10Speaker 00

  Wide receivers.

• 1:03:11Speaker 03

  He might've played it a little bit against, so he's hurt.

• 1:03:15Speaker 04

  I might be completely wrong. Yeah, no, two catches, 35 yards against the Eagles.

• 1:03:19Speaker 03

  There you go.

• 1:03:20Speaker 04

  Nailed it.

• 1:03:20Speaker 03

  You know, ball. I forgot that he was, he was on the Titans until I read the injury report today, hand up. And it just made me think of, you know, you listed like all the stuff that's happened with the Titans since Mike Frabel's left.

• 1:03:34Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:03:35Speaker 03

  It just made me reach back and think about all the different old, formerly really good wide receivers that the Titans have signed throughout the years. Because it's, it's like unique to that franchise that they bring in a Calvin Ridley type, who probably will still be good somewhere. Whatever his next team is, maybe he'll be traded at some point. But they had like Julio Jones.

• 1:03:59Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 1:03:59Speaker 03

  They had DeAndre Hopkins. They had Andre Johnson. Tyler Lockett did the retirement tour in Nashville. Eric Decker, I believe was there, Randy Moss. This is what the Titans do.

• 1:04:13Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:04:13Speaker 03

  They get this type of receiver and then they end up flipping them and then they usually go somewhere else and have like

• 1:04:20Speaker 00

  Finish their career.

• 1:04:20Speaker 03

  One last like decent run as a receiver somewhere else.

• 1:04:23Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:04:23Speaker 04

  Calvin Ridley was a little different, though.

• 1:04:25Speaker 03

  A little bit, yeah. A little bit younger.

• 1:04:27Speaker 04

  He, yeah, I think he was, I guess he came in 2024.

• 1:04:31Speaker 00

  It's like basically the, they're, they're the hospital. Yeah, he was. Yeah.

• 1:04:36Speaker 03

  He's, he came there a little bit younger. That's true. It's now like, we kind of forget that he's on the team, but he's still really good.

• 1:04:42Speaker 00

  He, uh, well, I don't know if he's still really.

• 1:04:45Speaker 03

  If he's healthy.

• 1:04:46Speaker 00

  I don't, I don't know about that.

• 1:04:48Speaker 03

  I think if he's healthy, he's good. He'll, there'll be some team that picks him up as a piece at the trade deadline, I think. And he'll probably be a valuable contributor.

• 1:04:56Speaker 00

  He's, uh, the Titans are basically the, the hospital, like, you know, an old person goes to the hospital, gets out of the hospital. They're like, oh, they're actually going to live for a little bit longer. Then it's like, all right, it's over.

• 1:05:07Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:05:07Speaker 00

  Retirement home. It's done.

• 1:05:09Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 1:05:10Speaker 00

  They're the stop before. They're the broken hip place.

• 1:05:14Speaker 00

  We just need to get them, we need to get their hip fixed and then they'll come back home.

• 1:05:17Speaker 03

  Just keep him happy.

• 1:05:18Speaker 00

  Yeah. Okay. Uh, this game will not be a main, uh, sound game, I would say. This is going to be a tough, tough watch, right?

• 1:05:26Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:05:28Speaker 00

  By the way, Deshaun Watson on the Browns hangout for his house for the victory Monday. They were talking about party at number four's crib. So we've made it happen. The guys always know that my house is always open whenever they want to come by and hang out. We can do it every week. Number four's crib.

• 1:05:42Speaker 03

  I love that. They just kind of bullied their way into.

• 1:05:44Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:05:45Speaker 03

  Him throwing a party.

• 1:05:46Speaker 00

  He said it's one of the closest teams they've ever been on. Also, I, what do we think about Todd Monkin calling him Sean? That might be the rebranding he needs.

• 1:05:56Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:05:56Speaker 00

  Not Deshaun.

• 1:05:57Speaker 03

  I didn't know that he was doing.

• 1:05:57Speaker 00

  Sean, yeah. He said, he said, uh, first off, I had no, talking about the party. First off, I had no idea. I had no idea where he tried to throw the crib out there. That was pretty cool. It's Todd Monkin, like.

• 1:06:10Speaker 03

  He's co switching.

• 1:06:11Speaker 00

  Yeah. He tried to throw the crib out there. That was pretty cool. I didn't know anything about it. We were in the locker room and I think somebody mentioned post game, something like a party at Sean's or something. And then he said, yeah, come on over. And I thought he was just joking. Party at Sean's.

• 1:06:26Speaker 03

  Party at Sean's. I like it.

• 1:06:27Speaker 00

  I mean, Sean Watson is a totally different player.

• 1:06:29Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:06:30Speaker 00

  That might be the one thing he needs. Just drop the duck.

• 1:06:33Speaker 03

  I don't hate it.

• 1:06:36Speaker 03

  We should just start doing that with somebody here at the office. Just say like, party at Max's.

• 1:06:40Speaker 00

  Yeah, party at Max's.

• 1:06:41Speaker 03

  And just if we keep saying it, then he has to have a party. Party at 99's.

• 1:06:46Speaker 00

  Party at 99's?

• 1:06:47Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:06:47Speaker 00

  Yeah. Meatball 99's. Everyone show up.

• 1:06:50Speaker 04

  There's one 99.

• 1:06:52Speaker 00

  Meatball 99.

• 1:06:53Speaker 04

  And he unfortunately no longer works.

• 1:06:55Speaker 03

  Party of pugs.

• 1:06:56Speaker 00

  Party of pugs.

• 1:06:56Speaker 03

  Pugs.

• 1:06:58Speaker 00

  We should, we should do a smush party at Zach's.

• 1:07:01Speaker 03

  What's a smush party?

• 1:07:02Speaker 00

  Smush party, I think, uh, something that was popularized by the great philosopher, Nicky Smokes. It's a party in an apartment where it's so packed that everyone's smushed together and you can't move.

• 1:07:13Speaker 03

  Okay, yeah. I'm going to pass on the smush party.

• 1:07:16Speaker 04

  Yeah, let's get, let's get smushless. Kind of like elbow room, shoulder room, you know?

• 1:07:20Speaker 03

  Yeah, let's have an air party, like a little, little air between everybody.

• 1:07:23Speaker 04

  What about, yeah, Riverside part, would you FaceTime party?

• 1:07:25Speaker 00

  I'd like to do a smush party at Zach's. Just you walk in and just like literally nowhere to go. But we're having a great time.

• 1:07:33Speaker 04

  I might, I might get a hotel. Yeah, I don't know.

• 1:07:36Speaker 00

  Okay, next up Colts at Vikings. Colts at Vikings. The Vikings are six and a half point favorites. The over under is 41 and a half. This is who, what do you believe in more? The Colts having fired Chris Ballard and Carly Ursay Gordon, is that her name? Yes, Carly Ursay Gordon, who she is queen. Basically telling the whole team, like, you're all fucked if you don't start winning games. Or the Vikings coming off a bye and potentially using that bye week to self scout and have a better offensive plan going forward, which their offense did look better the week before the bye against the Saints, I believe.

• 1:08:18Speaker 00

  So which one do we think is more of a, of a compelling argument here?

• 1:08:23Speaker 03

  I don't know. They sound equally reliable to me.

• 1:08:26Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:08:26Speaker 03

  I'm going to go with the Vikings on this one, big cat.

• 1:08:28Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:08:29Speaker 03

  I'm going to go with competent coaching and, uh, and a very, very solid defense. It is like a clash of two different styles because the, uh, the Vikings, their games are the, uh, most consistent finishing, uh, in the under. They're averaging 6.1 points under the, under the total. And that's the last in the NFL. The Colts are 8.4 points over average on the total.

• 1:08:55Speaker 03

  And a lot of times in the Colts games, there's some, there's some bad plays that lead to points being scored.

• 1:09:01Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:09:01Speaker 03

  That's what I'm getting at. So I think I'm going to go with the Vikings and probably the under this one.

• 1:09:05Speaker 00

  The Vikings lead basically every single stat in deep team defense, scoring defense, EPA per play, success rate allowed, pass success rate allowed, red zone convert rate allowed. It's like first all the way down. I think I'm going to go with the Vikings as well here. I, uh, they also got healthy. I think that that's a, the bye week came at a good time for them. Has there ever been a bye week that didn't come at a good time?

• 1:09:29Speaker 03

  It's always a good time.

• 1:09:30Speaker 00

  It's always a good time. But I think Jordan Addison is back. I think Jordan Mason is back. I think Hockinson's back. I think, uh, I can't remember. There's like a whole list. They basically all got healthy. So Panthers are the other team that got a lot of healthy guys coming out of the bye week.

• 1:09:45Speaker 03

  Yeah. So right now, the, uh, the Colts, they have an interim GM, Ed Dodds is their interim GM.

• 1:09:50Speaker 00

  Okay, that's just to replace a GM. Yeah.

• 1:09:53Speaker 03

  It sounds like the best job ever.

• 1:09:54Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:09:55Speaker 03

  It's like you are a GM, like you have to address immediate needs, but you're not allowed to do anything that would impact the future at all.

• 1:10:01Speaker 00

  Ed Dodds. You get the big office for a little bit.

• 1:10:04Speaker 03

  You get the office. They probably don't put your nameplate on the office door, though.

• 1:10:07Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:10:08Speaker 03

  But you're like substitute teacher.

• 1:10:11Speaker 00

  Ed Dodds was, uh, was with the Colts for all of it.

• 1:10:15Speaker 03

  He's been.

• 1:10:15Speaker 00

  He's with all of it.

• 1:10:17Speaker 03

  So he, he is probably reminded on a daily basis, don't get comfortable.

• 1:10:20Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:10:21Speaker 03

  I would imagine Miss Ursay Gordon walks past his office every day and was like, get your fucking feet off the desk. I don't want you to put your name on anything. Don't get comfortable. Don't even sit behind the desk.

• 1:10:32Speaker 00

  Edward Dodds.

• 1:10:33Speaker 03

  Yeah, old Eddie Dodds.

• 1:10:35Speaker 00

  Hmm. Okay. I'm not going to believe in Edward Dodds. Yeah, there's nothing he can do, right?

• 1:10:39Speaker 03

  Is he allowed?

• 1:10:40Speaker 00

  I guess, I guess he will be trading guys.

• 1:10:42Speaker 03

  So that's what I was thinking is like trade deadline, if they're really going to blow everything up, there are some names on that team that might be Quentin Nelson, I imagine. A lot of teams would want him.

• 1:10:52Speaker 00

  Jonathan Taylor.

• 1:10:53Speaker 03

  Jonathan Taylor, a lot of teams would want him. So I would imagine Ed Dodds might, do you think they're going to let him do those trades or is that going to be from the ownership?

• 1:11:02Speaker 00

  Oh, I think that if, I think, I think when Ed Dodd walks in, you gotta, you gotta hand him the keys. Ed, you take this.

• 1:11:08Speaker 03

  When Ed Dodd, when you get a call from Ed Dodd's, don't pick up the phone because he's going to fucking fleece you.

• 1:11:14Speaker 00

  Did Ed Dodd's do it again? What if Ed Dodd's fleeced Howie?

• 1:11:18Speaker 03

  Oh my God. Howie's, Howie's probably called Ed Dodd's already.

• 1:11:22Speaker 00

  Yeah. Yeah, he probably, Howie's probably buttered up Ed Dodd's being like, you know, you, I really think that you're good for this job. You should keep it.

• 1:11:29Speaker 03

  I'm scared of dealing with you, Ed. Ed, you're probably going to, you're going to fleece me on this one, buddy.

• 1:11:34Speaker 00

  We've known each other.

• 1:11:35Speaker 03

  How am I going to sell this one to Mr. Laurie, Ed?

• 1:11:37Speaker 00

  We've known each other a long time, Ed. You're not going to, you're not going to screw me over, right? You promise?

• 1:11:42Speaker 04

  Howie's got his work ahead of him.

• 1:11:44Speaker 00

  Yeah, you think that there's going to be some trades?

• 1:11:47Speaker 04

  Schefter said that he expects the Eagles to be both buyers and sellers.

• 1:11:50Speaker 00

  Oh, I love that.

• 1:11:52Speaker 03

  A little flea market.

• 1:11:53Speaker 00

  That's interesting. Yeah. They're just having a garage sale, barter anything you want.

• 1:11:58Speaker 04

  Probably. That's, that actually sounds, when you put it like that, I'm in.

• 1:12:02Speaker 03

  How much you want for Saquon?

• 1:12:07Speaker 04

  Well, not for you. He's not for sale for you.

• 1:12:10Speaker 03

  Why not? That's against, that's against the law to discriminate against a customer like that.

• 1:12:15Speaker 04

  Well, you guys don't need help at running back. Seahawks, you're for, you're for, he's for sale. But the price has got to be right.

• 1:12:22Speaker 00

  What's the price?

• 1:12:24Speaker 04

  Starts with a second.

• 1:12:28Speaker 00

  Oof. You're sounding like Ed Dodd right now.

• 1:12:31Speaker 04

  Starts with a.

• 1:12:32Speaker 00

  Trying to hard bargain.

• 1:12:33Speaker 03

  That was a really good oof.

• 1:12:34Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:12:35Speaker 03

  That's, that's the sound you got to make.

• 1:12:36Speaker 04

  I mean, I was debating between first and second.

• 1:12:38Speaker 02

  You really don't want to give it up. It's like, yeah, it's really got to be.

• 1:12:40Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:12:41Speaker 04

  I don't know. A second? Chill, Ed. Damn.

• 1:12:45Speaker 03

  Dr. Dodds, the Dodds maker.

• 1:12:47Speaker 00

  What if I countered with it and said, I'll give you a fourth, knowing that Saquon Barkley only two times in his career has gone over 1,005 yards?

• 1:12:55Speaker 03

  Damning if true.

• 1:12:56Speaker 05

  Pass. I'll keep him.

• 1:12:58Speaker 00

  Okay. Okay. Have fun with your less than 1,005 yard runner.

• 1:13:03Speaker 05

  Well, except for the two times.

• 1:13:06Speaker 00

  Well, the two times were nice. One of them was with the Giants.

• 1:13:08Speaker 03

  Yeah, there's Ed Dodds here. Uh, some people are calling him an offensive line merchant. Uh, he can only run behind that big, bad offensive line. All right. See you later. This has been Ed Dodds.

• 1:13:16Speaker 00

  Mm hmm.

• 1:13:17Speaker 03

  Ed said that, not me.

• 1:13:18Speaker 00

  Ed Dodds.

• 1:13:20Speaker 05

  We're gonna see.

• 1:13:20Speaker 03

  Take it up with Ed.

• 1:13:22Speaker 05

  Saquon.

• 1:13:23Speaker 00

  Yeah. Hey, listen, listen, uh, Howie, you want to keep trotting out Saquon behind that offensive line? We'll see what happens. He's gonna have a bad year and then he's, it's gonna be, I'm gonna call you back in, in April. It's gonna be a fifth. Ed Dodd out. That's how he ends every phone call.

• 1:13:40Speaker 03

  And he, and he just hung up on Howie.

• 1:13:42Speaker 05

  This isn't Howie talk. Let's get back, let's get back to Colts.

• 1:13:46Speaker 03

  You do, you do a really bad job as Howie. If I was Howie, listen to this, I would, I would want you fired.

• 1:13:50Speaker 00

  I'd be freaking out.

• 1:13:51Speaker 05

  It's a good thing I'm not Howie.

• 1:13:52Speaker 03

  Max isn't allowed to do Howie anymore.

• 1:13:53Speaker 05

  I'm not Howie. He, Howie is Howie. You're not Howie either.

• 1:13:56Speaker 03

  I'm Ed Dodd.

• 1:13:57Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:13:57Speaker 05

  You're not Ed Dodd.

• 1:13:58Speaker 00

  No. You know who's not, you know who's not Howie? Ed Dodds.

• 1:14:02Speaker 05

  You have, he has cooler sunglasses than you, that's for sure.

• 1:14:05Speaker 00

  Ed Dodds is a fucking man.

• 1:14:06Speaker 05

  Look at those sunglasses.

• 1:14:08Speaker 03

  Those are tactical.

• 1:14:09Speaker 00

  I would love to get Ed Dodds on and she'd be like, so what are you doing?

• 1:14:12Speaker 03

  I do, I, I really do want to know what the fucking interim GM does. Like where, what are your responsibilities? And more importantly, what are not your responsibilities?

• 1:14:21Speaker 00

  Did you get a nice parking spot at least, Ed?

• 1:14:23Speaker 03

  He, he probably did, but he probably installed the sign on his own.

• 1:14:27Speaker 00

  Yeah. Yeah. Or his kids maybe like drew him one in class.

• 1:14:32Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:14:33Speaker 00

  Our daddy's the GM.

• 1:14:34Speaker 03

  World's best GM. Yeah.

• 1:14:36Speaker 00

  All right. Dolphins, Jets, Jets minus four and a half, over, under 39 and a half memes. This is a must win.

• 1:14:44Speaker 05

  This is a must win and this is a, things are gonna get really dark if they lose.

• 1:14:49Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 1:14:51Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:14:51Speaker 05

  Like extremely.

• 1:14:53Speaker 03

  Like how dark?

• 1:14:54Speaker 05

  So dark.

• 1:14:55Speaker 03

  Midnight?

• 1:14:55Speaker 05

  It, it's just, it'll be hockey and basketball season.

• 1:14:58Speaker 03

  It's always darkest before the dawn though.

• 1:15:00Speaker 05

  Would this put Aaron Glenn on the hot seat if he loses this game? Yeah. Well, I think it, it, he'd be solidly fired.

• 1:15:10Speaker 05

  This is a firing game. Yeah. A hundred percent.

• 1:15:12Speaker 00

  Oh, we're doing a firing?

• 1:15:14Speaker 05

  Not a firing game. He, he gets to coach the entire season, but.

• 1:15:18Speaker 00

  But then he gets fired.

• 1:15:19Speaker 05

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Quiet fire.

• 1:15:20Speaker 03

  Quiet fire. I've got a question for you memes. Uh, the fact that he was just fined $250,000, which isn't technically a fine. The NFL is doing this thing with some coaches where they find, I think it was Sirianni, Vrabel and Aaron Glenn. Might be missing somebody else. Um, they find him $250,000, but they get the money back if they behave themselves. Do you think if Aaron Glenn got fired mid-season before he got the money back, do you think the NFL would give it back to him?

• 1:15:48Speaker 05

  I think so, but I think he should still keep chirping the refs.

• 1:15:52Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 1:15:53Speaker 00

  Mm hmm.

• 1:15:53Speaker 03

  I think it's disgus, I don't know why they find him 250 grand. Was it for the, the, uh, red flag waving thing? Where he dangled it?

• 1:16:02Speaker 00

  No.

• 1:16:03Speaker 05

  No.

• 1:16:03Speaker 02

  He must have said something.

• 1:16:05Speaker 05

  I think it might've been the Packers game. He was, he was in there here, but it, it looks like they only find Italians.

• 1:16:11Speaker 03

  And Aaron Glenn?

• 1:16:12Speaker 05

  Yeah. No, he, he's Italian.

• 1:16:15Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 1:16:15Speaker 00

  He's Italian. I think once you take the Jets job, you become Italian.

• 1:16:19Speaker 03

  That's true. Yeah. I, I read a, a pretty bad stat about the Jets and I, I do think the Jets should smoke the Dolphins. There's a lot of stats that I read the other week that are promising, shows that they've turned a lot of things around from last year to this year. Um, one bad stat for them is that they've been outscored 100 to six in the final two minutes of the second quarter.

• 1:16:39Speaker 00

  Hmm.

• 1:16:40Speaker 03

  Not, not great for end of half management.

• 1:16:43Speaker 00

  That's bad.

• 1:16:44Speaker 02

  Since last year?

• 1:16:45Speaker 05

  That was also said on Sunday's show.

• 1:16:47Speaker 00

  Okay. Well, he reset it.

• 1:16:48Speaker 05

  I, I don't know. I'm just.

• 1:16:50Speaker 03

  I forgot, I forgot that we said it. Okay.

• 1:16:52Speaker 00

  Sounds like you're coming at LG right now.

• 1:16:54Speaker 05

  I'm not, I'm not.

• 1:16:54Speaker 00

  What's the number?

• 1:16:55Speaker 03

  Okay. 100 to six.

• 1:16:59Speaker 05

  Did you see guys calling you LG?

• 1:17:01Speaker 03

  As first reported by memes.

• 1:17:02Speaker 00

  Guys is calling you LG?

• 1:17:03Speaker 05

  Did you see guys was calling you LG?

• 1:17:04Speaker 00

  Ooh, Paul, Paul?

• 1:17:09Speaker 05

  Uh, what is? Podcasting by LG.

• 1:17:11Speaker 00

  What is the first thing you think of, uh, when you think of this matchup? I have one thing and one thing only.

• 1:17:18Speaker 02

  Chad Pennington.

• 1:17:19Speaker 00

  No.

• 1:17:21Speaker 00

  I think of the Jets fans doing two of fingers to Jake Marsh.

• 1:17:24Speaker 03

  Yeah. I forgot about that.

• 1:17:28Speaker 00

  They did two of fingers to me. Oh, that, that's where this rivalry is.

• 1:17:34Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:17:34Speaker 00

  That's my, that's my, my number one m- memory of this matchup. And what, Tua didn't even get concussed in the game against Jets. It was just after the two of fingers.

• 1:17:43Speaker 02

  I think the Jets scored and someone just turned around.

• 1:17:45Speaker 00

  Yeah. It was like four weeks after the two of fingers.

• 1:17:48Speaker 03

  Yeah. It was a reminder.

• 1:17:48Speaker 00

  Marsh got two fingered by a Jets fan at the game and forever. Forever, uh, changed the course of his life.

• 1:17:59Speaker 03

  Yep. Oh, we're looking up Jake Marsh posts right now and just pulled up.

• 1:18:04Speaker 05

  Trying to see if he's posted anything.

• 1:18:05Speaker 03

  Just pulled up the same, the same five tweet, the legendary same five tweet.

• 1:18:09Speaker 00

  Mm hmm. Same five.

• 1:18:11Speaker 03

  Same five.

• 1:18:12Speaker 00

  Hang the banner. Same five.

• 1:18:14Speaker 03

  Uh, the Dolphins made some news this week.

• 1:18:18Speaker 00

  What?

• 1:18:18Speaker 03

  They had a tryout.

• 1:18:19Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 1:18:20Speaker 03

  Did you, who they tried out?

• 1:18:21Speaker 00

  Who? Tom Kaepernick?

• 1:18:22Speaker 03

  Justin Tucker.

• 1:18:23Speaker 00

  Ah.

• 1:18:25Speaker 03

  Justin Tucker.

• 1:18:26Speaker 00

  That's kind of a perfect place for him to go.

• 1:18:27Speaker 03

  Yeah. I mean, they didn't sign him. They signed, uh, Zane Gonzalez, the kicker, the, the guy that's got OCD.

• 1:18:34Speaker 00

  But he got, he got tried out.

• 1:18:35Speaker 03

  He did get tried out. Yep. Yep.

• 1:18:37Speaker 00

  Which is big.

• 1:18:38Speaker 03

  So there's that. I think that's his second tryout.

• 1:18:40Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:18:40Speaker 03

  With no, no job, but he's still, he's still trying.

• 1:18:44Speaker 00

  He's trying out.

• 1:18:45Speaker 03

  Mm hmm.

• 1:18:46Speaker 00

  Yeah. I feel like, yeah, you get a couple of tryouts, then maybe someone will get desperate. I, I don't know what, the Rams maybe?

• 1:18:53Speaker 03

  Yeah. I mean, they're, they're.

• 1:18:54Speaker 00

  You want to do the super team thing?

• 1:18:55Speaker 03

  They're getting close to it.

• 1:18:57Speaker 00

  Feels like they, they might, they might take a, kick the old can down the road there. Would, uh, we can't find a two of fingers. The clip. It would be a great, what?

• 1:19:07Speaker 05

  I was just trying to find it. I couldn't find it. Yeah. Sorry.

• 1:19:09Speaker 00

  Two of fingers. So you don't do two of fingers.

• 1:19:11Speaker 05

  You don't do two, two.

• 1:19:12Speaker 00

  This is fucked up. All right. Bucks, Panthers, Panthers minus three, over, under 44 and a half. I think Baker's back.

• 1:19:20Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 1:19:20Speaker 00

  So it seems like he's gonna play, which definitely makes this a watchable game. No offense to Jalen Daniels. Did his job, went one and one. But Zach, how are we feeling with Baker potentially being, coming back and this is a divisional game? If you win this game.

• 1:19:37Speaker 00

  Not gonna say season's back on, but definitely some, some feelings about like, hey, we're gonna look at the standings. We're gonna look at the, what's coming up. Like you'd be, you'd be two and five. The Panthers would be three and three. You'd only be two, two behind them. It would get some feelings.

• 1:19:55Speaker 05

  We, yeah, wouldn't be all the way back on, but definitely lights aren't out because if we win this game, we have another divisional game the next week. So if we look good here, Baker's back, we get this divisional win. And I mean, our division is what it is. I know we've been over that before. I'll feel a certain type of way if we go two for two on the next two games.

• 1:20:13Speaker 00

  Mm hmm. Okay.

• 1:20:14Speaker 05

  Certainly.

• 1:20:15Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:20:16Speaker 05

  But I'm not, I'm definitely not gonna overreact like I did last week. Last week I got way too excited. I thought we were back for real after one win.

• 1:20:21Speaker 00

  I mean, you guys were up 16 to three though.

• 1:20:24Speaker 03

  Yeah. Which is, makes it even worse though, right? Like could, should have won the game.

• 1:20:29Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:20:29Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:20:30Speaker 00

  But Booker's out for this game.

• 1:20:32Speaker 03

  Mm hmm.

• 1:20:32Speaker 00

  Chris Godwin, maybe we feel, he hasn't been featured a lot, uh, this season. So maybe he'll, he'll get going. I, I mean, I think the Panthers are just good and I think, like I said, they, they're getting a lot healthier.

• 1:20:46Speaker 03

  Uh, some of the Bucks might've been sick this week though.

• 1:20:49Speaker 00

  Uh oh.

• 1:20:49Speaker 03

  There was an illness going around.

• 1:20:50Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:20:51Speaker 03

  The locker room. So Bucky, I think was sick. Cansey was sick a little bit. McCollum was a little sick. Uh, so I don't know if it was the flu, but you're right. The, the Panthers are getting healthy. Their defense is getting healthy and their defense has been really good. Besides that first game where the Bears lit them up, which was like 59 points.

• 1:21:09Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:21:10Speaker 03

  Besides that game, the Panthers defense has been really, really good and injured at the same time.

• 1:21:14Speaker 00

  Mm hmm.

• 1:21:14Speaker 03

  So I think they're gonna just continue to, I think the Panthers are just a good team. We saw the emergence of, um, a new version of Bryce Young last week. Or maybe they just told us about this new version. Have you heard of Fun Bryce?

• 1:21:26Speaker 00

  No.

• 1:21:27Speaker 03

  So that's what.

• 1:21:28Speaker 00

  Oh my God, I want in.

• 1:21:29Speaker 03

  That's what some of the guys on the team are calling this new version of Bryce Young is, is Fun Bryce.

• 1:21:33Speaker 02

  Date Bryce.

• 1:21:34Speaker 03

  What? Uh, yes, it's, it, it's, uh, Date Mike from the office.

• 1:21:37Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:21:38Speaker 03

  So he drew an offside penalty, I think with a hard count last week. And I think Nick Scott, the safety was saying, yeah, that's, that's Fun Bryce that does that now. He's a new guy. He's playing like a, a, a brand new human being.

• 1:21:50Speaker 00

  I'm in on.

• 1:21:50Speaker 03

  So watch out for, for Fun Bryce, cause he has been fun this year.

• 1:21:54Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:21:54Speaker 03

  He's been a very fun quarterback.

• 1:21:57Speaker 00

  Uh, Fun Bryce sounds awesome.

• 1:21:59Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:21:59Speaker 00

  I'm in on Fun Bryce. Okay. Uh, have I hit any hungry dogs by the way? Are you gonna bet the Jets Dolphins game?

• 1:22:07Speaker 02

  Yeah, I'd bet the Dolphins. I'm scared though. The Jets have screwed me in the hungry dog, I think three times this year, and I think I've sworn off that they're not gonna be in it. So. I don't think the Bucks, the Bucks will probably be in it. I really want to do the Dolphins, but. I have multiple times been like, Jets are done. Jets are done with the hungry dog.

• 1:22:28Speaker 00

  You just do it again. It's the Dolphins, man.

• 1:22:32Speaker 02

  But I like the Bucks a lot.

• 1:22:35Speaker 00

  You like the Bucks?

• 1:22:36Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:22:37Speaker 00

  Baker back?

• 1:22:38Speaker 02

  Mm hmm.

• 1:22:39Speaker 00

  Their defense hasn't been bad, Zach.

• 1:22:43Speaker 03

  No, defense hasn't been bad. I think it's gonna be important to get franchise quarterback back. I think there's a lot more to that than what people are kind of offering to.

• 1:22:50Speaker 00

  Yeah. Okay, uh, next game, we have the Bengals Ravens. This will be main TV. Ravens minus one and a half, over under forty eight and a half. I, uh, so Lamar is not gonna play?

• 1:23:04Speaker 03

  I don't know. I think he might.

• 1:23:05Speaker 00

  But he was also didn't practice, had a limp.

• 1:23:09Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:23:09Speaker 00

  What's going on there?

• 1:23:10Speaker 03

  So apparently during the media portion today, he didn't have a limp. That's, that's what we've come to now.

• 1:23:15Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 1:23:15Speaker 03

  It's like, we're analyzing whether or not he, he's walking. Okay.

• 1:23:20Speaker 00

  That's okay.

• 1:23:21Speaker 03

  So this.

• 1:23:22Speaker 00

  Feel like this happens every single year with us and Lamar.

• 1:23:24Speaker 03

  It's every week now with Lamar. It's like, we don't know. Nobody knows. My, my guess until like two hours ago was that he probably wasn't gonna play.

• 1:23:31Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:23:31Speaker 03

  And then I saw that he didn't have a limp. But I know Lamar gets weird about it. Like if he's not a hundred percent, he doesn't want to play. Cause like he's obviously at his best when he's a hundred percent.

• 1:23:41Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:23:41Speaker 03

  And I think injuries disproportionately affect Lamar over other quarterbacks.

• 1:23:46Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:23:46Speaker 03

  Because of the style that he likes to play. So.

• 1:23:48Speaker 00

  I mean, if this is Snoop Huntley, the Ravens are in trouble.

• 1:23:51Speaker 03

  I think it might be Snoop. It's, it's like fifty fifty. Who knows?

• 1:23:54Speaker 00

  And the Ravens will be like, not only if they lose this, this game is, feels very, very important for the division because, and I feel like they always have high scoring games. Is that not, is that right? For some reason in my mind, maybe it's just like one or two, maybe it was like two years ago where they, remember there was like a game in the forties, I want to say?

• 1:24:15Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:24:16Speaker 00

  All right. Look, Max is looking it up. Twenty four, nothing is not a high scoring game. Thirty two, fourteen, thirty five, thirty four, thirty eight, forty one, thirty eight. That, so twenty twenty four is the year I'm thinking.

• 1:24:28Speaker 04

  Twenty to thirty four, too.

• 1:24:30Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:24:31Speaker 00

  Yeah, twenty thirty four. Yeah.

• 1:24:32Speaker 04

  Twenty seven, twenty. Yeah.

• 1:24:33Speaker 00

  Yeah. So they play, I'm, I'm gonna take the over in this game and I'm gonna hope that Lamar plays. And then if he doesn't, maybe I'll take the over and the Bengals. So that way it's like, if Lamar doesn't play, maybe I can go one and one that way.

• 1:24:44Speaker 03

  Is this a, uh, is this a revenge game for the Bengals?

• 1:24:48Speaker 00

  How so?

• 1:24:48Speaker 03

  Against Trey Hendrickson?

• 1:24:49Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah. Joe Burrow said he's, he's probably very excited to hit me.

• 1:24:54Speaker 03

  Yeah, I think it's like, it's not Trey Hendrick, what does Trey Hendrickson have to be upset about? They paid him a lot of money?

• 1:24:59Speaker 00

  Mm hmm.

• 1:25:00Speaker 03

  I think it's more the Bengals are like, hey dude, we paid you a lot of money.

• 1:25:04Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:25:04Speaker 03

  We're mad at you.

• 1:25:05Speaker 00

  You're a good pass rusher. You're an incomplete defender. We didn't want to pay you Max Crosby money because Max Crosby is better.

• 1:25:11Speaker 03

  Right.

• 1:25:12Speaker 00

  Sorry. That seems fair all, all the way around.

• 1:25:15Speaker 03

  So, yeah.

• 1:25:16Speaker 00

  Yeah. Uh, okay.

• 1:25:19Speaker 00

  Yeah, I think I like the Bengals in this game. What are you thinking, Hank? That's a hungry dog.

• 1:25:22Speaker 02

  Bengals.

• 1:25:23Speaker 00

  Bengals? I want to ride the hungry dog this week.

• 1:25:27Speaker 02

  I don't know.

• 1:25:28Speaker 00

  Why?

• 1:25:30Speaker 02

  We'll see.

• 1:25:31Speaker 00

  Oh, no. You got a gross one coming up? It's not Texans minus ten, over under forty two and a, oh my God, Hank. You're gonna take the Giants money line?

• 1:25:44Speaker 02

  Again, this is Thursday. I'm not, I'm not committing to these hungry dogs on this podcast, but I love the Giants.

• 1:25:51Speaker 04

  Nine.

• 1:25:51Speaker 00

  What? Tell us why you love the Giants.

• 1:25:53Speaker 02

  J.J. McCarthy was phenomenal last week. He looked great. The Texans are not.

• 1:25:57Speaker 00

  Saints defense.

• 1:25:58Speaker 02

  But the Texans are not great.

• 1:26:00Speaker 00

  The Texans also are coming from a very high leverage game abroad, traveling back, maybe a little hangover there. God damn it. This might be, cause I love the Texans going into this week and I, this might be one of those games.

• 1:26:14Speaker 03

  Ten and a half? It's a lot of points.

• 1:26:16Speaker 00

  It's a lot of points.

• 1:26:17Speaker 03

  They have.

• 1:26:18Speaker 00

  You're taking money line?

• 1:26:19Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:26:19Speaker 00

  Oh my God.

• 1:26:21Speaker 03

  You're a psycho.

• 1:26:22Speaker 00

  I can't.

• 1:26:22Speaker 03

  Sick. I don't see Harbaugh getting blown out in this game.

• 1:26:26Speaker 00

  I think losing. I do.

• 1:26:28Speaker 03

  You do?

• 1:26:28Speaker 00

  Yeah. I mean, I just, J.J. McCarthy, I see getting blown out.

• 1:26:32Speaker 03

  Did you not watch the fourth quarter?

• 1:26:34Speaker 00

  I did.

• 1:26:34Speaker 03

  On pace for a thousand yards?

• 1:26:36Speaker 00

  I think that my.

• 1:26:37Speaker 03

  Sixteen touchdowns?

• 1:26:38Speaker 00

  I'm gonna say this. I think it might be the, the get right game for the Texans defense. And I'm saying

• 1:26:46Speaker 00

  alternate total under ten points for the Giants.

• 1:26:51Speaker 03

  You were just not a believer in nine.

• 1:26:53Speaker 00

  I just got delisted too.

• 1:26:55Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:26:56Speaker 00

  That's brutal.

• 1:26:56Speaker 03

  Back on the list.

• 1:26:58Speaker 00

  God damn it.

• 1:26:59Speaker 03

  They think I'm rooting for the Falcons as much as I'm saying nine.

• 1:27:02Speaker 00

  Damn it. Uh, as an underdog of above three points, John Harbor is thirteen and four against the spread in his last seventeen games, that spot. Over the last decade, I would say that the Ravens were probably a better team than the Giants, but still that's significant. That's a significant stat, right?

• 1:27:19Speaker 03

  I would say so. Um, Tank Del back?

• 1:27:23Speaker 00

  Tank Del back, which is incredible. I still remember like, that was what, two years ago?

• 1:27:27Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:27:29Speaker 00

  I think I was on the way to the tech, uh, Tennessee, Ohio State playoff game in Columbus and I was watching on my phone in the car and I was like, oh my God, that was disgusting.

• 1:27:38Speaker 03

  Yeah, it was, it was nasty. It was as bad as you remember, it was somehow worse.

• 1:27:42Speaker 00

  The, I would say the, the problem for the Giants in this game, not a nine problem. Okay. Maybe I'll stay delisted. The Giants haven't been great against.

• 1:27:51Speaker 04

  I already made sure you're back on the list.

• 1:27:52Speaker 00

  No, stop it.

• 1:27:55Speaker 00

  I, I, stop it. The, the, the Texans should be able to run in this game is what I'm gonna say. And that does help significantly CJ Stroud when they have that balanced attacks. CJ Stroud's been playing good. He's good again.

• 1:28:07Speaker 03

  I hope they can run the ball. They're, they haven't been able to.

• 1:28:11Speaker 00

  I'm just.

• 1:28:12Speaker 03

  For like the last four years.

• 1:28:13Speaker 00

  I'm sad for Jameis. It feels like that's, that's it.

• 1:28:16Speaker 03

  Did you hear, did you hear what D'Amico Ryan said about the quarterback situation before the game?

• 1:28:21Speaker 00

  No.

• 1:28:21Speaker 03

  I feel like it was meant as a compliment and to me, it's actually insulting to both players.

• 1:28:25Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:28:26Speaker 03

  He said, for us, it doesn't really matter who plays quarterback.

• 1:28:31Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:28:31Speaker 03

  They're not the same style of quarterback at all.

• 1:28:34Speaker 00

  Although nine was doing a little Jameis, like peak Jameis to just chuck it.

• 1:28:38Speaker 03

  Just winging it.

• 1:28:39Speaker 00

  So maybe he's got a.

• 1:28:40Speaker 03

  The only way that they're remotely similar is they both take a lot of chances with the football, but like in terms of style of play.

• 1:28:49Speaker 03

  I don't know. It, it, it feels like he might have been trying to communicate that as a, a positive, but I bet behind the scenes, he's using that as like a very, very negative with his players being like, we're gonna get, we're gonna fatten up.

• 1:29:01Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:29:01Speaker 03

  This, this.

• 1:29:02Speaker 00

  That's what I'm saying.

• 1:29:03Speaker 03

  It's time to fatten up on picks.

• 1:29:04Speaker 00

  That's what I'm saying.

• 1:29:05Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:29:05Speaker 00

  Maybe a get right game for them. The, uh, by the way, Malik neighbors, last two games, he has gone, uh, eleven catches, twenty targets, eleven catches for a hundred and twenty one yards. Twelve catches, a hundred and sixty five yards. And the game before that, six catches for a hundred and twelve yards. He's been awesome. Do you want to hear a really depressing list? Because I have the list of every Giants QB Malik neighbors caught a pass from. You ready for it?

• 1:29:35Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:29:36Speaker 00

  Daniel Jones, Tommy DeVito, Drew Locke, Tim Boyle, Russell Wilson, Jackson Dart, Jameis Winston, J.J. McCarthy. He's only played twenty five games in the NFL. That's eight different quarterbacks.

• 1:29:51Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's pretty crazy. And credit to Russell Wilson. I, I completely had forgotten about that.

• 1:29:56Speaker 04

  Tim Boyle was a name.

• 1:29:58Speaker 00

  Tim Boyle was a name.

• 1:29:59Speaker 03

  Mm hmm.

• 1:29:59Speaker 00

  That was a name.

• 1:30:00Speaker 04

  I don't remember the Tim.

• 1:30:01Speaker 00

  I think he was TB twelve.

• 1:30:03Speaker 04

  Was he TB twelve?

• 1:30:04Speaker 00

  Yeah, I think he was, I think he wore number twelve, Tim Boyle. Shout out Tim Boyle. So, so Max, are you gonna bet the Giants?

• 1:30:13Speaker 04

  Me?

• 1:30:13Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:30:14Speaker 04

  Uh, no, my PMT pick is gonna be Texans minus ten and a half.

• 1:30:18Speaker 00

  Okay. So you don't believe in the nine either?

• 1:30:20Speaker 04

  I just believe in the Texans. I, I think it's gonna be a high scoring game.

• 1:30:22Speaker 03

  There you go.

• 1:30:23Speaker 00

  Okay. So you're, you're, you're playing both sides here.

• 1:30:26Speaker 04

  No, I'm not.

• 1:30:27Speaker 00

  Well, yeah, I mean, you think.

• 1:30:28Speaker 03

  You're gonna take the over.

• 1:30:29Speaker 04

  I, I don't, I don't believe in the Giants defense.

• 1:30:30Speaker 03

  You know what, Max? We'll give you that, but you have to take the over too. Prove that you believe in nine.

• 1:30:34Speaker 04

  I got to pick what I want to pick.

• 1:30:35Speaker 03

  Cause if you really believe the nine, like you just said that you did, you take the over. It should hit easily.

• 1:30:40Speaker 04

  I have another, uh, total that I like better than that.

• 1:30:43Speaker 03

  But you more confident than them than nine?

• 1:30:45Speaker 04

  I believe in nine.

• 1:30:47Speaker 03

  Sounds like you don't at all.

• 1:30:48Speaker 04

  It's eighteen.

• 1:30:50Speaker 00

  I wish we could, uh, by the way, bet Tank Del said that it doesn't matter what the first catch he has, like it's could be two yards, five yards. He said, I'm spiking the ball.

• 1:31:00Speaker 03

  Hell yeah.

• 1:31:01Speaker 00

  I wonder if he's gonna get a penalty. Wish we could bet that.

• 1:31:03Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:31:04Speaker 00

  But I'll be happy for him. I mean, that's, it's pretty crazy. His leg was just basically off.

• 1:31:08Speaker 03

  Yeah. Good for him.

• 1:31:10Speaker 00

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• 1:31:55Speaker 00

  Afternoon games, I think we can all agree the, uh, primo game is gonna be the Packers and the Lions. Lions minus three, over under fifty three and a half. Did you guys see, uh, the news about Sam Laporta wanting a new contract?

• 1:32:09Speaker 03

  No.

• 1:32:10Speaker 00

  When is that gonna be a distraction?

• 1:32:12Speaker 03

  Is that recent news?

• 1:32:14Speaker 00

  Yeah, it came out on Wednesday.

• 1:32:16Speaker 03

  So like after we recorded our last.

• 1:32:18Speaker 00

  Yeah, everyone was talking about it. Uh, turns out he wants a new contract.

• 1:32:22Speaker 03

  Wants a new contract.

• 1:32:23Speaker 04

  People were talking about it after we recorded that.

• 1:32:26Speaker 03

  Yeah, there was no way that we would have known that this was a news.

• 1:32:28Speaker 00

  Correct. Right.

• 1:32:29Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:32:29Speaker 00

  We couldn't have commented it on Wednesday's show.

• 1:32:31Speaker 04

  No.

• 1:32:33Speaker 03

  I mean, I guess he, I guess he wants to get paid.

• 1:32:35Speaker 00

  Yeah. Whoops. Although not whoops because he, I think he wanted to say that and he does want to get paid.

• 1:32:41Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:32:42Speaker 00

  So.

• 1:32:42Speaker 03

  He, he clearly knew what he was doing and it's not that it's even necessarily a bad thing. Guy wants to get paid.

• 1:32:48Speaker 00

  Detroit.

• 1:32:48Speaker 03

  Deserves to get paid. The Lions kind of did the same thing.

• 1:32:50Speaker 02

  People want to come on the show and give us clips like.

• 1:32:52Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:32:52Speaker 04

  Yeah. I, I, I was thinking the same thing.

• 1:32:54Speaker 02

  No whoops at all.

• 1:32:55Speaker 03

  We, we, we didn't trick him into saying anything.

• 1:32:57Speaker 00

  No, it wasn't a gotcha.

• 1:32:58Speaker 03

  I think the question was, is this your handwriting, sir?

• 1:33:00Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:33:01Speaker 04

  I'm all in on us using this platform as a way for people to ask to get paid more money.

• 1:33:05Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 1:33:06Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:33:06Speaker 00

  A hundred percent.

• 1:33:07Speaker 04

  That's.

• 1:33:07Speaker 00

  And I liked Sam Laporta. That was fun having him on. We should definitely have him on again. He, uh, yeah.

• 1:33:12Speaker 03

  When you say that, Max, Brandon is gonna come back on real soon.

• 1:33:16Speaker 00

  Brady Walker.

• 1:33:17Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:33:18Speaker 00

  The, uh, also, you know, Detroit, radio, TV, social media, you're welcome. Give you a full day.

• 1:33:27Speaker 03

  The Lions, they did the same thing with, uh, with Hawkinson, right?

• 1:33:30Speaker 00

  Yeah. Yeah.

• 1:33:31Speaker 03

  They don't like paying tight ends.

• 1:33:33Speaker 00

  So, uh, that was a big story. I think the bigger story for the Lions is that I believe Brian Branch might be coming back.

• 1:33:41Speaker 03

  I've been thinking that for the last like four weeks.

• 1:33:44Speaker 00

  Which would be massive.

• 1:33:46Speaker 03

  He's so good.

• 1:33:46Speaker 00

  Their defense. Lions off a bye. I just want to, I just want to bet on points in this game. I think Jameer Gibbs is gonna have a hundred receiving yards.

• 1:33:57Speaker 03

  I think, uh, is Detroit five and O to the over this year?

• 1:34:01Speaker 00

  I believe they are.

• 1:34:01Speaker 03

  Lots of points.

• 1:34:02Speaker 00

  It always starts slow.

• 1:34:03Speaker 03

  Cause they're, they're leading the league in scoring, I believe, and they're allowing the most yards.

• 1:34:07Speaker 00

  Yeah. The, I, I, I kinda wanna also just wait for the game to start and Lions come out slow and then just bet the Lions and bet the over.

• 1:34:17Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:34:17Speaker 00

  It feels like all those games go the same. Josh Jacobs also back. Looks like he's gonna play, right?

• 1:34:24Speaker 03

  I know that he's back. I don't know about.

• 1:34:26Speaker 00

  Didn't show a lot of remorse.

• 1:34:27Speaker 03

  I don't know about being active for the game. I don't know how that's gonna work out. LaFleur did the thing where he just kinda said, uh, second chances.

• 1:34:35Speaker 00

  Yeah. He said, I think a lot of times you get in a situation where you might not make the right decision. I think people learn from their mistakes. Now, listen, I am a believer in second chances and people should learn from their mistakes, but this was more than just like a little tiny bitty.

• 1:34:48Speaker 03

  Oopsie.

• 1:34:49Speaker 00

  Like, oh, I jaywalked.

• 1:34:51Speaker 03

  I think that, uh.

• 1:34:53Speaker 00

  I forgot to fill the car up with gas.

• 1:34:55Speaker 03

  It does, I feel like if we, if the video came out.

• 1:34:59Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 1:34:59Speaker 03

  There might be a lot of people that said, uh, this is not just a little mistake. And again, I don't know. I said might because I, I haven't seen it. I don't know what's on the video.

• 1:35:07Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:35:07Speaker 03

  But the footage exists and they're trying very hard to keep it secret. Um, it, it could end up being, we remember the last time that that happened with Ray Rice. It was like, oh, well, that's really, really bad.

• 1:35:18Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:35:19Speaker 03

  We don't want him representing our team.

• 1:35:20Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:35:21Speaker 03

  Or the league. So, yeah, I don't know. It, I, I don't, I don't think that we should rush to say like, this guy's deserving of a second chance. Until you've actually seen what happened.

• 1:35:31Speaker 00

  I'd agree. Also, Josh Jacobs said he, he, he basically was like, I think six games is a lot. Shouldn't have been spending that long.

• 1:35:39Speaker 03

  Really? So he, he, in a weird way, he's the victim.

• 1:35:42Speaker 00

  Yeah. He said, I think six games is a lot, honestly, but that's not really up to me to decide. I'm grateful to be playing. So that's not something I'm really arguing or petitioning. I guess, I guess, or sorry would have been.

• 1:35:53Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:35:54Speaker 00

  I show remorse, something like that.

• 1:35:57Speaker 03

  Uh, Dan Campbell has a chance to make history today.

• 1:35:59Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:36:01Speaker 03

  To be the first person to pull off the LaFleur sweep.

• 1:36:04Speaker 00

  Ooh.

• 1:36:05Speaker 03

  Take out both brothers.

• 1:36:06Speaker 00

  Ooh.

• 1:36:07Speaker 03

  Both brothers in a year.

• 1:36:08Speaker 00

  Ooh.

• 1:36:08Speaker 03

  Never been done before. Cause they've never been both head coaches before.

• 1:36:12Speaker 00

  But that's pretty cool.

• 1:36:13Speaker 03

  It would be the first person to do it, I think.

• 1:36:15Speaker 00

  LaFleur sweep. They should raise a banner.

• 1:36:18Speaker 03

  They should.

• 1:36:18Speaker 00

  Be both of, well, I guess he still has to play LaFleur again. So you don't wanna.

• 1:36:23Speaker 03

  Yeah, that's true. It's actually, it's the hardest LaFleur sweep.

• 1:36:27Speaker 00

  Yeah, it'd be a premature LaFleur sweep if he, if he wins this one and then loses the next one.

• 1:36:31Speaker 03

  Right. Cause Matt LaFleur is like the final boss in a video game. You beat him, but oh, wait, he's coming back.

• 1:36:36Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:36:37Speaker 03

  You have to do round two.

• 1:36:38Speaker 00

  Now you gotta go to Lambeau.

• 1:36:39Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:36:39Speaker 00

  Yeah. Do you guys have any thoughts on this game?

• 1:36:44Speaker 03

  I like Detroit.

• 1:36:45Speaker 00

  Yeah, off a bye.

• 1:36:46Speaker 03

  Off a bye, yeah.

• 1:36:48Speaker 00

  I also feel like, I mean, I think the Packers are, I, I think the Packers are better than what we saw, obviously against the Falcons when everyone was like, oh, this team is just dead. But I also think it's kinda almost overcorrected where everyone's like, they're, they're totally fixed. I don't know if that's fully the case.

• 1:37:06Speaker 03

  Wait, this is, uh, gonna be a little chess match here. Cause the defense of the Packers, their coordinator is Jonathan Gannon, right? And the Lions offensive coordinator is Drew Petsing.

• 1:37:16Speaker 00

  Yep. They were together.

• 1:37:18Speaker 03

  They were together in Arizona. They practiced against each other every day.

• 1:37:20Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 1:37:21Speaker 03

  In Arizona.

• 1:37:21Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 1:37:21Speaker 03

  I like that.

• 1:37:22Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 1:37:24Speaker 00

  Uh, yeah, I like that too. I, I'm, I'm gonna take the over, I think. When is Michael Parsons coming back?

• 1:37:30Speaker 03

  I don't think his, his practice window is open, is it?

• 1:37:32Speaker 00

  It's kinda weird.

• 1:37:32Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:37:33Speaker 00

  I know that.

• 1:37:34Speaker 03

  He's a full-time podcaster.

• 1:37:35Speaker 00

  All injuries are different, but. Patrick Holmes is six and O around week six or seven. No, that's from July 28th, Max.

• 1:37:46Speaker 03

  That's, that was when he was supposed to come back then.

• 1:37:48Speaker 00

  Okay. Good point. Hey.

• 1:37:50Speaker 03

  That was the first thing.

• 1:37:51Speaker 00

  Hey, let's not make a big argument about this. You're right.

• 1:37:54Speaker 03

  How about this one?

• 1:37:55Speaker 00

  Week nine.

• 1:37:58Speaker 00

  Chance, a realistic chance of returning week nine. Okay. I'm excited to watch this game though. I don't, uh, I think I'm just gonna take the over. Maybe a lot of, maybe this is the game we double up on touchdown scores.

• 1:38:10Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:38:11Speaker 00

  Feels like a lot of touchdowns. Feels like a lot of touchdowns. Okay. Uh, Rams at Raiders. Raiders plus three and a half, over, under is forty-eight and a half. The Rams have to win this game, right, guys? Right?

• 1:38:27Speaker 00

  But if they lose this game, it's over.

• 1:38:29Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 1:38:30Speaker 00

  I don't think they're a playoff team if they lose this game. I know that's probably a, a little ridiculous to say, but. Uh, two and five, and this is like, you, you could see what we say. These are the two easiest games in their schedule. You know, with, with the Cardinals last week, the Raiders this week. I, you gotta, you gotta win this game.

• 1:38:49Speaker 03

  They might not be a playoff team right now.

• 1:38:51Speaker 00

  I know.

• 1:38:51Speaker 03

  As it stands.

• 1:38:52Speaker 00

  Well, no, they aren't.

• 1:38:53Speaker 03

  Right. If, if the season ended today.

• 1:38:55Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:38:55Speaker 03

  Yeah. But I, I mean, like the, uh, the FBI playoff odds for them are only at thirty-five percent now.

• 1:39:01Speaker 00

  Yeah. And it's crazy because they're like, the actual statistics and everything, they're still a really strong statistical team, like a top. Ten offense, top ten defense, special teams stinks, but they have, uh, outgaining their opponents by a league best six hundred and forty-four yards this season.

• 1:39:19Speaker 03

  Hmm.

• 1:39:20Speaker 00

  Do you wanna know who has the worst total yard differential?

• 1:39:24Speaker 03

  Like the most negative?

• 1:39:26Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:39:27Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:39:29Speaker 00

  Any guesses?

• 1:39:29Speaker 03

  The Titans.

• 1:39:31Speaker 00

  Jets.

• 1:39:33Speaker 03

  I know you were gonna say.

• 1:39:35Speaker 00

  Minus six fifty.

• 1:39:36Speaker 03

  It's hurt. Been injured.

• 1:39:38Speaker 00

  That's a, that's a big difference.

• 1:39:40Speaker 03

  Yeah, been injured. They had a lot of injuries.

• 1:39:42Speaker 00

  Lot of injuries. Lot of injuries.

• 1:39:45Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 1:39:47Speaker 00

  Hmm. I don't know what to make of this. Though the, uh, I know that the, the fact that the Rams won a Super Bowl flags live forever, but Jared Goff actually does have a higher win percentage as Rams starting quarterback. Uh, than Matthew Stafford as Rams quarterback. So he had, he's won more games than Matthew Stafford, both as the Rams, same. Jared Goff's Rams are better than Matthew Stafford's Rams.

• 1:40:13Speaker 03

  Would not have expected that.

• 1:40:15Speaker 00

  Again, I understand you'd have to kind of memory hole the whole winning a Super Bowl thing, but I did that. I just did. And I made the argument and that's what I, that's what I'm doing.

• 1:40:26Speaker 03

  It happened. Jared, better quarterback for the Rams.

• 1:40:28Speaker 00

  Also, it's only by one percent. So I think that if Matthew Stafford wins this game, he might be better.

• 1:40:33Speaker 03

  That's it. You're going back. Yeah. Actually, Matthew Stafford was probably ahead of Jared until the season.

• 1:40:39Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:40:39Speaker 03

  And then the start of the season.

• 1:40:40Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:40:41Speaker 03

  Sunken below.

• 1:40:42Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 1:40:42Speaker 03

  Yep. Okay. Got it.

• 1:40:43Speaker 00

  Uh, okay. Uh, last afternoon game, the Cardinals and Broncos. Broncos minus four and a half, over, under is forty-three and a half. Is Bo Nix playing for his job? What's that? What's that, Max? Moving on?

• 1:40:56Speaker 03

  Yeah, this game's, this game's nothing.

• 1:40:58Speaker 00

  Is Bo Nix playing for his job?

• 1:41:00Speaker 03

  It is his job to play.

• 1:41:03Speaker 03

  Gotcha.

• 1:41:04Speaker 00

  Gotcha.

• 1:41:04Speaker 03

  Gotcha. Uh, I don't think he's gonna be benched. You think steady?

• 1:41:08Speaker 00

  No, I don't think he's gonna be benched, but this does feel like a crisis point for Bo Nix with all the conversation.

• 1:41:13Speaker 03

  That's when.

• 1:41:14Speaker 00

  How bad they've looked.

• 1:41:14Speaker 03

  That's when Bo Nix is at his best.

• 1:41:16Speaker 00

  You're probably right.

• 1:41:16Speaker 03

  Crisis, when the words crisis point.

• 1:41:18Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:41:19Speaker 03

  Are, are uttered, that's when Bo Nix comes through. I mean, what's probably gonna happen in this game is knowing both teams, the Cardinals are gonna take a big lead, like in the first quarter.

• 1:41:28Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 1:41:29Speaker 03

  And then do absolutely nothing. And then the Broncos, let's say the, the Cardinals go up ten, nothing in the first quarter. And then it gets to ten, three by halftime. Nothing happens in the third quarter and then, uh, the Broncos score fourteen points in the fourth.

• 1:41:43Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:41:43Speaker 03

  Game over.

• 1:41:45Speaker 00

  I, I just feel like there's been a vibe shift where even Broncos fans are like, yeah, this guy stinks.

• 1:41:51Speaker 03

  I think they, I think they get it. They understand the criticism because they're starting to get frustrated too.

• 1:41:56Speaker 00

  Right. And Sean Payton, I said, like, we want him to run more. I, I really do. I think there's a lot of mental that's going on with Bo Nix, like than it is physical. I know he just, he's coming back from the broken foot, but mentally I feel like he has a little bit of the yips going on. Which quarterbacks can get out of? So maybe this is the game they get out of. The, the stat that I, I look to is basically ask yourself this. Uh, are the Cardinals going to score twenty or, uh, twenty-one or more points?

• 1:42:28Speaker 03

  No.

• 1:42:29Speaker 00

  They're not. Okay. Bo Nix is 22 and two as a straight up as a starter. When the opponent scores 20 points or less.

• 1:42:38Speaker 03

  Okay, love that.

• 1:42:39Speaker 00

  So there you go. Take an 18 to six against the spread. So that means take the Broncos.

• 1:42:43Speaker 03

  And he's going to go off for 150 yards.

• 1:42:45Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:42:46Speaker 03

  Two touchdowns and one interception.

• 1:42:47Speaker 00

  But that's the formula.

• 1:42:48Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 1:42:48Speaker 00

  If you, if you think that the Cardinals are going to score more than 20 points, bet the Cardinals. If you think they're going to score less than 20 points, bet the Broncos.

• 1:42:54Speaker 03

  After having, after having like a week to think about it, do you think that Bo Nix is disrespectful to the position of quarterback?

• 1:43:01Speaker 00

  Yes, definitely. No, I don't actually. The way he played on Thursday night.

• 1:43:05Speaker 03

  That, that play.

• 1:43:06Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:43:07Speaker 03

  It's not a judgment of him as a person.

• 1:43:08Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:43:09Speaker 03

  It's his play in one game.

• 1:43:10Speaker 00

  Yeah. He is 11 and two against the NFC and he averages over two touchdowns a game. So this would be the breakout game for Bo Nix. You know what? I'm going to do that. I'm going to believe in Bo Nix this week.

• 1:43:19Speaker 03

  The fact you said crisis point.

• 1:43:21Speaker 00

  It does.

• 1:43:22Speaker 03

  There's never been two words that.

• 1:43:24Speaker 04

  You're going too hard at Bo Nix.

• 1:43:25Speaker 00

  Yeah, I'm not. If they lose to the Cardinals and he looks terrible, Cardinals are a bad team. The conversation has already begun and it would hit a crisis point.

• 1:43:35Speaker 04

  At some point, the tide is going to turn and everyone's going to be like, oh, Bo Nix is the best.

• 1:43:39Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:43:40Speaker 04

  So that's same energy.

• 1:43:41Speaker 00

  Right. I'm not, I didn't, who said that?

• 1:43:44Speaker 04

  Courtland Sutton.

• 1:43:45Speaker 00

  I'm not saying it's a crisis, but I'm saying it feels like an embarrassing loss to the Cardinals where they score like, let's say 13 points. Could be, would, would one of Monday's headlines not be, is there a crisis in Denver with Bo Nix? That absolutely would happen.

• 1:44:01Speaker 03

  Definitely. The headlines, yes, but I don't think that they'd make a change.

• 1:44:05Speaker 00

  I, it wouldn't, maybe not make a change right away, but the, the conversations would start because that would be a really bad, like he should, he should do well against this Cardinals defense.

• 1:44:14Speaker 03

  I think Sean Payton is going to go down with the ship with Bo. If that, if that's how it's going to go down, I don't think Sean's making a move.

• 1:44:20Speaker 00

  And I think the Broncos are a really good team. Like overall, I think they're a Super Bowl contender. Way they're, they play defense and Bo Nix can just figure it out a little bit. If he could play a little bit better, they become a dangerous, dangerous team.

• 1:44:32Speaker 03

  I'm telling you, now I'm very, I'm going to bet definitely on the Broncos now.

• 1:44:36Speaker 00

  Yeah, I'm going to probably bet on Bo Nix.

• 1:44:37Speaker 03

  It's time.

• 1:44:38Speaker 00

  Touchdowns, everything, completions. Yeah, all of it. Uh, all right. Last game. Sunday night football, great one. Seahawks minus three at home against the Chiefs. Over under is 42 and a half. I like Seahawks here, boys.

• 1:44:53Speaker 02

  Love the Seahawks here.

• 1:44:54Speaker 00

  I like the Seahawks here.

• 1:44:55Speaker 02

  This is a hundred percent in the hungry dog.

• 1:44:57Speaker 03

  You think, you think that there's not going to be a little extra pep in Kenneth Walker's step?

• 1:45:01Speaker 00

  Oh, for sure there will be, but there also might be a little pep in the other guy's steps too. Be like, hey, we gotta stop him. He's so good and he's, we really wish we had him. Let's just hug him extra hard.

• 1:45:11Speaker 03

  They're going to just be chasing him to give him, to dap him up?

• 1:45:14Speaker 00

  Yeah. Yeah. I'll just throw this out there. Chiefs, six and oh, or five and oh. Patrick Holmes looks fine.

• 1:45:23Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 1:45:25Speaker 00

  Broncos week one. The Broncos had the worst tackling performance I've ever seen in my entire life. Absolutely dominated them. Their other wins are Colts, Dolphins, Raiders, Chargers. Now Dolphins and Chargers are definitely two of the worst three teams. And the Colts and Raiders could finish somewhere around there. Just saying, kind of similar to the 49ers thing where it's like, I think both, I think the both 49ers and Chiefs are probably the best teams in their respective conferences. But there's always an equalization point. There's always a point where it kind of, you get back, water finds its level. I feel like it's Sunday night. The Seahawks are a desperate team. They're three and three. They've lost a couple of games that you like head scratchers, you know, the, the Denver game was a head scratcher.

• 1:46:10Speaker 00

  It's like you had that game one, Bo Nix couldn't complete a forward pass and you didn't win that game. I think this is where the Seahawks get right.

• 1:46:19Speaker 03

  The Chiefs have the best point differential in the NFL. They have the second fewest points allowed per game in the NFL. And when you look at the schedule that they have played, that those, both those stats do check out.

• 1:46:31Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:46:31Speaker 03

  The second fewest, and the one time that they allowed significant amount of points, that was against the Colts.

• 1:46:35Speaker 00

  Mm hmm.

• 1:46:36Speaker 03

  And the Colts are an over team. Every game they play over.

• 1:46:39Speaker 00

  Right.

• 1:46:40Speaker 03

  And they, they can score. So I guess this is, we're going to learn a lot about the Chiefs.

• 1:46:45Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:46:45Speaker 03

  I think the Chiefs are going to win. Uh, I do, but I also think we're going to learn a lot about them.

• 1:46:50Speaker 00

  Yeah, I'm going just, this might be just the, I know they're not, the Seahawks are not the underdog, by the way, Hank. So I know you said they're going to be in the hungry dog.

• 1:47:02Speaker 02

  I'm on my mistake.

• 1:47:03Speaker 03

  Seahawks are two and a half point favorites, right?

• 1:47:06Speaker 02

  The Chiefs will be in the hungry dog.

• 1:47:07Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 1:47:08Speaker 03

  There we go.

• 1:47:08Speaker 00

  Okay, that changes everything.

• 1:47:09Speaker 02

  Yeah. Maybe.

• 1:47:13Speaker 02

  I don't know why I had that wrong. My mistake.

• 1:47:15Speaker 00

  Because I do think this is a hungry dogs run faster game for the Seahawks, even though they're not technically the dogs. Like they gotta get going, you know?

• 1:47:24Speaker 03

  Mm hmm.

• 1:47:24Speaker 00

  It's, it's, it's kind of now, like you're three and three. You don't want to dip below 500. Chiefs coming to town, they've looked perfect. I just think the Taekwon Thornton part of it where it's like him being out, the Chiefs not being able to take deep shots. Now playing against a real defense where you've played some defenses that aren't very good. That's where it's going to really hurt. This is when, when it's going to finally show up.

• 1:47:46Speaker 03

  Mm hmm.

• 1:47:47Speaker 00

  So yeah, I like the Seahawks. Okay. Any, anything else? Any other, any other thoughts? Do we have a fantasy minute? We do.

• 1:47:55Speaker 04

  We do.

• 1:47:55Speaker 00

  Let's go.

• 1:47:57Speaker 04

  Special one. He's excited about this one.

• 1:47:59Speaker 00

  Oh, he is.

• 1:47:59Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:48:01Speaker 00

  I'm excited.

• 1:48:02Speaker 02

  Me too.

• 1:48:03Speaker 00

  I love Jerry.

• 1:48:04Speaker 03

  It was really good last week. The funny one was good last week.

• 1:48:07Speaker 00

  Oh, he's, he's in the Barstool New York office. Okay, let's go Jerry.

• 1:48:14Speaker 04

  If you had to guess what he's about to do.

• 1:48:16Speaker 03

  Uh, I think he might be playing a part of maybe a delivery guy right now.

• 1:48:20Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:48:20Speaker 03

  That's what it looks like.

• 1:48:21Speaker 00

  He also, that vest looks incredible. Okay.

• 1:48:24Speaker 04

  Let's find out.

• 1:48:26Speaker 06

  Start the music, music. Start the music, music. Okay. Um, so this is what happened. The Uber delivery person came off the elevator. Uh, G, Gio was like, yeah, let me get my food. Um, there was an argument about the photo. Okay. Uh, security Dan, not to be confused with security Mike who fights with Shane about tiramisu. Came out, what's up? And, uh, um, the, the fight ensued here. The Uber driver got a mounted position on security Dan. Boom, boom, boom. Uh, Gio was like, stop, stop, stop. And, um, then, hi guys, how are you?

• 1:49:04Speaker 06

  I'm just reenacting. It's my fantasy minute. Hey, what's up? Um, yeah. Gio was like, stop, stop, stop. Uh, Gaz came out, year old, some tight jean dude came out. No Nicky smokes. Yeah. No Nicky smokes. No Mincy. Okay. Let's stream, uh, Chiefs defense for sure. Let's pick up J J McCarthy. And let's, uh, start.

• 1:49:23Speaker 02

  Don't criticize him, Max.

• 1:49:25Speaker 06

  I did it. One minute F U big cat, call 100 gambler.

• 1:49:30Speaker 00

  That does good stuff, Jerry. What did he make the mistake of, you said?

• 1:49:33Speaker 04

  He was, he was like, can you tell me stuff that happened that I could talk about? And I was like, well, Tommy smokes was nowhere to be found. So he said, no Nicky smokes.

• 1:49:43Speaker 00

  Ah.

• 1:49:43Speaker 04

  So we got the, he got the two smokes brothers mixed up.

• 1:49:45Speaker 00

  We gotta get Jerry's, Jerry, Jerry's got to come and, and, and, and stream some games on a Sunday or maybe a Thursday.

• 1:49:52Speaker 04

  That'd be great.

• 1:49:52Speaker 00

  It'd be awesome.

• 1:49:53Speaker 04

  I feel like he should give updates about the fantasy team.

• 1:49:56Speaker 00

  Yeah, I don't think we're doing well. I saw he made a, uh, I don't want to say desperate trade, but he phrased it as desperate. So I'm just going off of him. Do we, do you still not have access PFT?

• 1:50:07Speaker 03

  No, I'm locked out. He locked me out. It's a hostile takeover.

• 1:50:10Speaker 00

  It's not good.

• 1:50:11Speaker 03

  Let me see it. You know what? Let me check.

• 1:50:15Speaker 03

  Let me check some things here.

• 1:50:16Speaker 00

  Okay. Yeah, I, I would like some updates on how our fantasy team is, our fantasy team is doing. Because it does feel important. I would like to win this thing.

• 1:50:31Speaker 03

  Hmm.

• 1:50:32Speaker 00

  How, ah, man, Jerry, Jerry, all right. Yeah. Here it was. Fortune favors the bold, fantasy. He added J J McCarthy. He dropped Roshan, Roshan Johnson, which didn't he just say stream Roshan Johnson?

• 1:50:45Speaker 03

  Mm hmm.

• 1:50:47Speaker 00

  So we're starting J J McCarthy this week.

• 1:50:48Speaker 03

  Yeah, that doesn't.

• 1:50:49Speaker 00

  Against the Houston Texans. Okay. I'm scared.

• 1:50:54Speaker 03

  Hmm.

• 1:50:55Speaker 04

  Not me.

• 1:50:56Speaker 00

  Okay. I listen. I, I give, I give my whole, I give Jerry a power of attorney for my life. Hank, what'd you think about that fantasy minute?

• 1:51:08Speaker 02

  I didn't like Max criticizing him. Jerry was trying his hardest.

• 1:51:10Speaker 00

  Yeah, it's a good point. That's a really good point.

• 1:51:13Speaker 02

  He really put some effort into that one.

• 1:51:14Speaker 00

  You always ride with Jerry.

• 1:51:15Speaker 04

  I liked it. He just got, he just said the wrong smokes unless he was just.

• 1:51:21Speaker 00

  Doing a bit.

• 1:51:22Speaker 04

  Unless he was doing a bit of like trying to get them wrong.

• 1:51:25Speaker 02

  It's next level. It's next level, Max.

• 1:51:27Speaker 00

  It's meta.

• 1:51:28Speaker 03

  Jerry might've kicked me out of the, uh, group chat too.

• 1:51:32Speaker 03

  It's either that or, or some, you know, sometimes the messages don't pop up immediately.

• 1:51:36Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:51:36Speaker 04

  No, I think he probably kicked you out. That's, that's very funny.

• 1:51:39Speaker 03

  He might've kicked me out. Look, I'm, I'm going to do a deep dive here.

• 1:51:43Speaker 00

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• 1:53:05Speaker 00

  Boys, can we win one? Did you find out if you got kicked out?

• 1:53:08Speaker 03

  I, I found the thread, the last, last message was on Wednesday, October 14th.

• 1:53:14Speaker 00

  Hmm.

• 1:53:15Speaker 03

  But I mean, it's one of those threads that like pops off for two days at a time and then nothing for like a week, week and a half. Cause before that, nothing since like October 8th.

• 1:53:24Speaker 00

  Okay, okay.

• 1:53:25Speaker 03

  So I don't know. Maybe it's just a quiet group chat.

• 1:53:27Speaker 00

  Okay. Uh, who's up? Who's, who do we got? I'm going to go with Monroe.

• 1:53:34Speaker 03

  Birthday touchdown.

• 1:53:35Speaker 04

  Birthday touchdown.

• 1:53:36Speaker 02

  Max, you take mine.

• 1:53:38Speaker 04

  All right. I, let me take a look.

• 1:53:40Speaker 00

  Let's win one, huh, boys? Let's fucking.

• 1:53:42Speaker 04

  I am going to go with.

• 1:53:52Speaker 04

  Fuck me. I'll go with Christian Watson.

• 1:53:58Speaker 04

  Same game. Is that all right? Are we cool with that?

• 1:54:00Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:54:03Speaker 00

  I'm going to go with Kenneth Walker.

• 1:54:08Speaker 00

  Can I?

• 1:54:10Speaker 04

  Permission granted. I like it.

• 1:54:15Speaker 00

  Sweet. All right. What do we got? What are the odds?

• 1:54:19Speaker 04

  Let's see here.

• 1:54:24Speaker 04

  If you bet $10, you'll win 57. $100, you win 573.

• 1:54:31Speaker 05

  Good math.

• 1:54:33Speaker 04

  I did that math.

• 1:54:37Speaker 04

  Yep.

• 1:54:37Speaker 00

  All right. Let's go picks.

• 1:54:39Speaker 04

  Let's go picks.

• 1:54:40Speaker 00

  Who's up first?

• 1:54:42Speaker 04

  I believe I'm a first.

• 1:54:44Speaker 00

  All right. So the standings as of right now, Zach, you're in last. You have three points. We're gonna go point system. So we don't say the records. You have three points. Hank and I have four. PF or memes has six. PFT has eight. Max has nine.

• 1:55:04Speaker 00

  Max, you're afraid that you're too good and then you're gonna falter at the end and become second place.

• 1:55:08Speaker 04

  PFT is also very good.

• 1:55:09Speaker 00

  No, I'm saying that's what I'm saying. You're in first right now. I'm saying.

• 1:55:12Speaker 04

  I mean, I get second place in this literally every year.

• 1:55:14Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's true. Well, except for the year that memes did the stand up.

• 1:55:17Speaker 04

  It was good. Yep. Good point.

• 1:55:18Speaker 00

  One man show.

• 1:55:19Speaker 04

  One man.

• 1:55:20Speaker 05

  They always say stand up is one man show. We'll never know if I'm many get a stand up.

• 1:55:24Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:55:24Speaker 05

  I will take the over in the Packers Lions 53.

• 1:55:28Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:55:28Speaker 04

  Okay. Uh, I am going to take the over in Niners Falcons 49 and a half.

• 1:55:37Speaker 00

  I'm going to take Chiefs plus three.

• 1:55:40Speaker 03

  I'm going to take the Browns Titans under.

• 1:55:44Speaker 04

  I like that one. I was going back and forth.

• 1:55:47Speaker 00

  Is it? Is it plus three? I guess it's my, it's minus 102, minus three. Shit.

• 1:55:58Speaker 00

  All right. I'll do Seahawks minus three.

• 1:56:02Speaker 05

  Uh, I will take the Dolphins plus four and a half. Little staff for you guys. The Jets have been outscored 100 to six at the end of the second quarter.

• 1:56:12Speaker 00

  Shut up.

• 1:56:13Speaker 05

  So.

• 1:56:13Speaker 00

  No way.

• 1:56:14Speaker 05

  I like.

• 1:56:14Speaker 04

  Under two minutes.

• 1:56:15Speaker 05

  I like the Dolphins a lot in this spot. Yeah. End of second quarter.

• 1:56:19Speaker 04

  Under two minutes.

• 1:56:21Speaker 05

  And I'm up again. Correct?

• 1:56:23Speaker 00

  Correct.

• 1:56:24Speaker 05

  I'll take the over Packers Lions.

• 1:56:26Speaker 04

  I already did that dumbass.

• 1:56:29Speaker 05

  I'll take the under in the Packers Lions. Gotcha.

• 1:56:33Speaker 00

  Good pick Hank. All right. I'll take Rams Raiders.

• 1:56:37Speaker 05

  You fell right into that trap.

• 1:56:39Speaker 00

  Over 48 and a half.

• 1:56:42Speaker 03

  I'm gonna take the Carolina Panthers.

• 1:56:46Speaker 05

  Has he over in the Steelers game already been taken?

• 1:56:50Speaker 00

  Anyone?

• 1:56:51Speaker 04

  All you.

• 1:56:52Speaker 05

  All right. I would like to get over at 44 and a half in Steelers Saints game.

• 1:56:55Speaker 00

  Love that.

• 1:56:58Speaker 04

  I said I was gonna take Texans.

• 1:57:03Speaker 04

  But I think I'm gonna go Titans plus one and a half.

• 1:57:06Speaker 00

  Wow. Okay.

• 1:57:08Speaker 03

  Stay hot Titans.

• 1:57:09Speaker 04

  I'll, I'll be going Vikings minus six and a half. Paul Allen's 500th game on the call. Paul Allen game.

• 1:57:16Speaker 00

  All right.

• 1:57:17Speaker 04

  That was a nine. That's a nine respect pick right there. I really like Titans minus 10 and a half better than that, but.

• 1:57:23Speaker 00

  You got bullied. That's what happened.

• 1:57:24Speaker 04

  You just bullied.

• 1:57:25Speaker 00

  You got bullied out of that pick.

• 1:57:26Speaker 04

  Got bullied.

• 1:57:28Speaker 00

  All right. Good job. Let's get to our interview. We got Blake Griffin talking his new show. NBA, everything else. And then we'll finish with Fire Fest.

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• 1:59:46Speaker 00

  Okay. We now welcome on a very, very special guest, one of our best friends. He is, how many times, what did we decide? Five time Blake of the year? Four time, five time Blake.

• 1:59:56Speaker 03

  Yeah. Cause he did the thing to Brooks.

• 1:59:57Speaker 00

  He got one for the thumb. It is Blake Griffin. He's got a new show out. It is called The Step Back. Uh, and it's also basketball season. So you can watch The Step Back on Amazon Prime. We're gonna run this on Friday. So the first episode of The Step Back came out on Tuesday, correct?

• 2:00:15Speaker 05

  Correct.

• 2:00:16Speaker 00

  Okay. So let's start with The Step Back. You're very funny. Is this show gonna make me laugh?

• 2:00:22Speaker 05

  I hope so. I hope so. You know, it's, um, I, I've never really hosted a show before. So this is, um,

• 2:00:30Speaker 05

  you know, I could use all the pointers, all the help I can get. I mean, you guys are seasoned, seasoned vets now.

• 2:00:36Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:00:36Speaker 03

  You should make your more famous friends come on the show right at the start and then you can use their names to get you publicity. And then kind of carry that on through the rest of the show.

• 2:00:45Speaker 00

  He already did that. He had Stavros on the first episode. Yeah. Yeah.

• 2:00:49Speaker 03

  Exactly. That's.

• 2:00:50Speaker 00

  Yeah. And Stavi was on the first episode.

• 2:00:52Speaker 03

  Are you going for laughs or are you trying to make us think Blake?

• 2:00:55Speaker 00

  Oh, good question.

• 2:00:56Speaker 05

  Uh, I'm actually doing a little bit of both. I think there's room for both in sports. But yeah, I mean, at the heart of it, like I think we are tackling like bigger issues. It's less reactionary. It's more uh, literally taking a step back on bigger issues in sports and, um, yeah, so there, there are some laughs. I mean, we got some, some awesome writers. Um, and it's like very much like true, like late night style.

• 2:01:23Speaker 00

  Yeah. It's a, I, I watched some of the first episodes. First episode's about sports journalism.

• 2:01:28Speaker 05

  Um, correct.

• 2:01:30Speaker 00

  Do you have any questions for us about sports journalism? We're, we're sports journalists. Uh, because it feels like you were kind of taking everyone to task for their takes, which I think that's, that's wrong.

• 2:01:40Speaker 05

  Yeah, I have a question. Uh, where the hell do you guys get off?

• 2:01:44Speaker 00

  Well, you see Blake. Yeah, we watch the games. So we know better than you who play in the games, what you should and shouldn't do.

• 2:01:55Speaker 05

  Right.

• 2:01:55Speaker 03

  I'll tell you what happened Blake is somewhere along the line, talking about sports became just as much, if not more of a sport than playing sports.

• 2:02:03Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:02:04Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:02:05Speaker 03

  So put a jersey on, then talk to me. All right?

• 2:02:07Speaker 00

  Yeah. Yeah.

• 2:02:10Speaker 05

  I, I, I, I listen, I talk, I'm reactionary too. I talk about sports too.

• 2:02:15Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:02:15Speaker 05

  But I also wanted to take a step back and talk about the bigger picture.

• 2:02:21Speaker 03

  Yeah. It does make sense. I, and I do think that there's room for both. In the last five, six years, we've seen like a lot of cutbacks in terms of real sports journalism. Because guess what? Sometimes when you're actually doing journalism, it doesn't get a whole lot of clicks all the time.

• 2:02:39Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:02:39Speaker 03

  And until we figure out a way to package that in a way that like is, is friendly to the, uh, social media news feed. It does feel like journalism is a, a little bit, you know, it's a, it's a forgotten child.

• 2:02:50Speaker 05

  Yeah. I also think there's just like not as much accountability, like not, not as much credibility, not, not as much accountability now. Um, and this isn't really like, this isn't really like, the whole show is not about sports journalism. I'm not like just continually harping on sports journalism. I do see it changing. A lot of these topics is like, hey, this is how sports are now. This is what it used to be. This is what it is now. And maybe this is where it could go. Um, so this isn't really like a show of me just being like, hey, like I have all the answers. It's really like, I don't know, like these are topics that I'm curious about. We have a research team. We have a writer's room. Um, so honestly, for me, it's just about like, hey, I'll do the research. We will present you guys with the facts and then you guys.

• 2:03:35Speaker 05

  Make you make a decision for yourself, you know?

• 2:03:37Speaker 00

  Yeah. So I got a question about sports journalism. Is there a level where like when you were playing and you see it with Kevin Durant? My quarterback, Caleb Williams, you know, they, they, they pay attention to a lot of the stuff that's said about them and they use it as motivation. But like, was there ever a level when you're playing where you're like to one of your teammates like, Hey, man, you gotta, you gotta maybe log off. Like it's too much to like, you can't consume yourself with everyone's takes. Or is it like, Hey, every guy gets motivated their own way. I might not listen to anything. You might listen to everything. How, what's that balance?

• 2:04:12Speaker 05

  Yeah, like there's definitely, I've definitely had teammates who like consume everything. I've definitely had teammates who block it all out. I was more because it was like Twitter was like brand new when I came in, I like, I kind of first started like reading stuff. And then I would, I would sort of tone it down, especially during the playoffs, I deleted every social media thing off my phone. But like some guys can handle it. Some guys can't. And like, once I got to know a teammate, I saw a guy one time at his, in his locker at halftime on Twitter, like searching his name on Twitter. And I, and if this was not, I'm not going to name names, but this was not a guy who had the like capacity to be able to do that. You know, like, so to, to, to each his own, like, I don't know.

• 2:04:53Speaker 05

  It's like, it's like, you know, if you've been like dieting and you're, you're eating really well, like, Hey, yeah, sure. You know, I can go peek and have like a little cheat meal here and there and like be okay and get back on track. But like, if you have a problem, then don't go down that, it is a slippery, slippery slope. And it's a fucking lonely slope.

• 2:05:12Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:05:13Speaker 05

  Cause like, if you take all that stuff to heart, man, like you go home and you'll be sad.

• 2:05:17Speaker 00

  Yeah. Yeah. No, we, we talk about all the time that humans are not built to have people have takes on them constantly. Like, like you're not, you're not built as a human being to like read thousands and thousands of people's opinions. And it like can mess you up pretty bad. Like we have it all the time. I struggle with it where it's like, you can't read everything. Otherwise you're just going to be paralyzed by it.

• 2:05:42Speaker 03

  If you think about it until like 200 years ago, what was the maximum number of people that knew of one other person's existence?

• 2:05:48Speaker 00

  Right.

• 2:05:49Speaker 03

  Like, I don't know, maybe like 500,000.

• 2:05:51Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:05:52Speaker 03

  Like nobody's brain has evolved to the point where we can handle a million people having something to say about us. It just doesn't work.

• 2:05:59Speaker 05

  Yeah. I mean, even, even like, like there's one thing about like pre-social media, like, okay, you could read the paper and then you kind of got a general idea like, oh, whatever. Millions of people were watching that Superbowl game. Like that's what people are probably thinking, but like the constant reminder of every day. And like, when it's social media, like your world, it feels huge. Not everyone's talking about this, but you're seeing it, it's your algorithm and it feels like the entire world. I mean, I've definitely, I've seen like, it, it was crazy. It affects like guys' performance. Like why, we've seen it. How many guys we seen lose confidence and they become a completely different player?

• 2:06:38Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:06:38Speaker 05

  And a lot of that stems from what people are saying about you.

• 2:06:41Speaker 00

  And I also think like, this is one of those things where it was actually, you know, there's always a conversation, especially in the NBA, like, oh, it was so much easier back then. This is one of those situations where I do think it was easier where you had a columnist write about you, but then that columnist probably had to show up to the locker room. And it's like, the people who had opinions about you had to, had to be face to face with you. And you had a relationship with them, whether you liked them or not. Now it's like, it's just a bunch of faceless people that you have opinions about you or guys on TV shows. I mean, we're, it's us too, where it's like, we never meet some of the people we talk about. That's not totally fair all the time.

• 2:07:20Speaker 05

  Yeah. See, I don't, I don't, I, I think that a lot of times, you know, back in the day, there's beat reporters and there's, there's people, like you said, you have to see them face to face. I think it's totally fine to be like critical of players. Like that's completely fair. That's like part of the job. But like, when it, when it goes past that level of like disrespectful, like that's when I actually feel bad for guys. And that's when like the, not having to see a guy face to face, when you say something like truly disrespectful, like that's when that, that's, that's the disconnect. Because you don't have to see him face to face. Back in the day, if you said something really disrespectful, you have to go into the locker room and interview him face to face and put a camera, I mean, put a microphone in his, in his, in his face. Like you're going to think a little bit about, you're going to be a little bit more cautious.

• 2:08:05Speaker 05

  And just maybe just a better journalist, like figure out a way to get your point across without saying something absolutely crazy.

• 2:08:12Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:08:13Speaker 03

  Did you have any rivals in terms of journalists that covered the teams? Like any guy that you just didn't get along with?

• 2:08:19Speaker 05

  I had people I just didn't like, really like vibe with, but like, I wouldn't say, uh, yeah. When I got to the Clippers, there was a guy at the LA Times named TJ Simers. And he was like, I, I had no clue who he was before I got drafted there, but everybody at the Clippers was like, Hey, watch out for him. He's going to try to get you. He, he turned out to be a pretty nice guy. He was like kind of an old curmudgeon type sports writer who was like, kind of always negative, but like, whatever. You know, who cares? And as you get older, like you stuff, you let stuff like go much easier.

• 2:08:51Speaker 03

  If, if a journalist out there repeatedly called you a loser and never had to see you face to face, would that be something that you would get upset about? Does that cross that line?

• 2:09:03Speaker 05

  No, I, I wouldn't say like calling me a loser is like the disrespectful thing. I think like, uh, I don't know. I'm trying to think of like an instance that like, uh, as I got older too, especially like you just become more secure with yourself and you're like, you, you know, whether something is warranted or not. And if it's not, you're just like, whatever, forget about it. And if it is like, honestly, you kind of take it to heart and you, it kind of makes you better.

• 2:09:26Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:09:27Speaker 05

  So that's another reason why sports journal, I think people like, people giving their opinions is totally fine. I, I, I think there just needs to be some accountability to it.

• 2:09:35Speaker 00

  Have you, uh, have you reached out to Steve Ballmer and just see how he's doing?

• 2:09:39Speaker 05

  I've tried, I've tried. I don't, I must've gotten like a wrong number or like the phone, the satellites must've gotten switched. I don't know if he uses, I doubt he uses like AT&T or Verizon or something. He's probably got his own thing.

• 2:09:53Speaker 00

  Yeah. Yeah.

• 2:09:54Speaker 05

  So maybe wait, I checked with his IT guy. I don't know if you guys know anybody, but.

• 2:09:59Speaker 00

  He's, yeah, you should probably, he's probably waiting to shake your hand and just so, you know, be like, Hey, Steve, how's it going? Everything, everything good with your team?

• 2:10:08Speaker 05

  Yeah, it's a man, tough situation, but you know, it's a Clippers, we'll, we'll fight back. Clippers always fight back. We'll find a way to get out of the, out of the hole.

• 2:10:19Speaker 03

  Yeah. Did you, did you have any idea how much you love trees? I was shocked.

• 2:10:24Speaker 05

  Didn't I? Well, I mean, I don't know. I think billionaires always have insane little hobbies. I think it was more so, I was shocked that Kawhi loved trees so much. I didn't, I don't know. I didn't realize he like was outside that much.

• 2:10:40Speaker 00

  Yeah. He's an arborist.

• 2:10:44Speaker 00

  The green thumb.

• 2:10:46Speaker 05

  I really love the, uh, who was it? A PGA player who, um, uh, he was like at, at Riv, he was like, he would always take the, uh, the other fairway. And, uh, Riv like came in and planted a tree and somebody had this amazing tweet that was like, uh, oh, Victor Hovland. Victor Hovland has now planted more trees in LA than Kawhi.

• 2:11:09Speaker 00

  True.

• 2:11:10Speaker 05

  That tweet would make no sense a year ago. It's unbelievable today.

• 2:11:15Speaker 00

  Yeah. Um, all right. Can we talk some NBA? So the season's starting. I feel like it's starting too early. What, when the season would start for you in October, was there, I mean, is there any urgency in the first few months? I know that you want to play well, your competitors, but it does feel like, especially in the NBA, you're gonna, the seeding maybe doesn't matter as much anymore. And it's just like, yeah, like we're a good team. We don't have to worry. We're not going to get beat up over a loss in October. Like how, how does that, how does ramping up to the season actually work mentally?

• 2:11:51Speaker 05

  I honestly, I don't know. I always, I feel like I always, we always had the mindset, like you want to come out of the gate hot. But then like, you, you always had that conversation where it's like, all right, we don't get too high, don't get too low, like, you know, a, a two game losing streak. Like you, you have to put it in perspective or you'll drive yourself crazy. So I, I completely understand the, the, how it looks. And it's like, Hey, it's too many games, 82, these games really don't matter. They like, they, it's just a necessary thing. Like I don't know how you scale this back. Like owners aren't going to want to make less, uh, to have less games, going to make less money. I, I just, I don't, I don't know. Uh, so, I don't know. It's the same thing with like the start of the game.

• 2:12:33Speaker 05

  I always tell people like the first quarter, like it, it, it really feels like guys aren't playing hard. A lot of the first quarter is kind of like, all right, we're figuring out, well, how are they guarding stuff? How, what's the flow of the game? How are the refs calling the game? Am I, does, do I feel good? Is my shot going? Like, it's a lot of that early on. And I always tell people like, I mean, if you get a chance to like sit courtside, even in the first quarter, like you'll feel, you, you'll feel that it's not just guys just dogging it. But you know, these are like some of the best athletes in the world, making this look very easy when some of this stuff is not. So that's my like NBA homer take.

• 2:13:10Speaker 00

  Yeah. Just raise his hand.

• 2:13:12Speaker 03

  Yeah. Quick, quick question, Blake. Uh, you, you said courtside. Hey, hey, good to see you. You mentioned courtside, like how, how far back does, does it become where it's still technically courtside? Or is it just that first row?

• 2:13:27Speaker 05

  No, I mean, I think maybe you get your feet on like the, the, the ground floor. Maybe you, maybe if you're second, second row.

• 2:13:34Speaker 00

  Feet on the ground floor. Okay.

• 2:13:36Speaker 05

  Yeah. And it doesn't have to necessarily be feet on the wood. You know, you can be feet on a whatever.

• 2:13:42Speaker 00

  Feet on the whatever. Yeah. That sounds just as good. What, what if, uh, what if you're sitting right next to the exercise bike? Does that count as being courtside? If you're bike side?

• 2:13:53Speaker 05

  It depends on the arena. Some bikes are much closer than others.

• 2:13:56Speaker 03

  Like hypothetically, like the Washington Wizards arena.

• 2:14:00Speaker 05

  Oh, yeah, yeah. I would say that's, yeah, yeah. Sure. Why not? Your courtside. If you can touch a player.

• 2:14:06Speaker 00

  Yeah. Well, I don't want to try.

• 2:14:07Speaker 05

  It wasn't just like, hey, a role. Yeah, don't a rogue like run into the stands after the ball touch a player.

• 2:14:13Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:14:14Speaker 05

  You can touch a player. Why not call it courtside?

• 2:14:16Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's, that's cool. Feet on the whatever.

• 2:14:19Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:14:19Speaker 00

  Yeah, doesn't matter.

• 2:14:20Speaker 05

  On the wood, it's all good. Or hand on the guy on the bike, you know, that's one striker.

• 2:14:25Speaker 00

  Psych. Yeah.

• 2:14:26Speaker 05

  No, it not.

• 2:14:27Speaker 00

  Psych, no psych. Uh, who, who do you like this year, Blake? Were you a Knicks believer last year? How long did it take you to respect him?

• 2:14:35Speaker 05

  Um, you know what? We had, so we had the, the Emirates, like NBA cup, the finals being Spurs Knicks in the, in December, like felt like a, a high stakes game. And the fact that it was like the finals eventually was, was honestly pretty cool to see. Uh, but like the Knicks, I thought after they had their little skid in January, they had lost a decent amount of games. And then I, I felt like Jalen Brunson's focus went to like a completely another, another level. And, but even then, like in the beginning, the first round of the playoffs, when Atlanta's like, kind of dogging them a couple of games, you start to get a little skeptical again. And then they went on that run. It, it, I don't know. It took me a while, but they, uh,

• 2:15:19Speaker 05

  playoff basketball, especially in the East last year, it was kind of like, I didn't know what was going to happen, but like Jalen Brunson, man, uh, like unbelievable.

• 2:15:28Speaker 00

  Yeah. What about, uh, so the Sixers are obviously going to be a big story this year. Do you have any concerns about the actual fit of the, of the pieces? Because they have incredible players, but you could make the argument, their four guys all have been alphas on their own teams before. And so how does that all fit now when all four of them have to learn how to play together? And is it like, hey, it doesn't matter. They're all fucking good. It's just they're, they're going to be good together.

• 2:15:57Speaker 05

  No, I think, I think it absolutely does matter. I mean, it's like, it's the, the LeBron being in the place that he is in his career. I would think that like, he's probably not going to be like the person you're like worried about. I mean, he, even last year when he came back, he was essentially like the third option with the Lakers. Not really, but kind of like Austin Reeves was playing out of his mind. Luca's Luca. Um, so I think LeBron is so good at so many different things that he can plug those gaps. The thing that you're, I'm like really looking at like the Sixers is who, like, does VJ edge come take the step in learning how to just always play off the ball and cut nonstop? Hit a corner three. I mean, he was great last season. I, I love him as a player, but like now you gotta go to the next level.

• 2:16:40Speaker 05

  And now, now who are the other guys to fit in there? Because like, remember like the Heat teams or any of these kind of super teams that, that guys have put, uh, teams have put together. It's all like those, those intangible guys, those like role players make so, they, they matter so much. And they're already a little light, uh, the backup center. And again, Joel's like not always healthy. So, um, to me, it's like those other guys. I mean, like if, as long as they can be like, hey, whoever's night, it's whoever, whoever's night. Jalen Brown, you go Tyrese Maxey, LeBron, Joel. As long as those other guys can fit those gaps and, and, and fill in the, the creases, like they'll be great.

• 2:17:20Speaker 00

  Yeah. Follow up question to that. How many balls do they play with at one time? How many balls are on the court at once?

• 2:17:26Speaker 05

  Well, warmups, almost unlimited number. You could, you could get a bunch out there.

• 2:17:30Speaker 00

  That's a good point.

• 2:17:31Speaker 05

  So guys are going to be pretty happy during warmups. Um, I always loved the, there's only one ball. Yeah. Yeah. We fucking know, man.

• 2:17:41Speaker 00

  Sometimes you don't. Sometimes teams get built and they, they don't know it's only one ball. True. There, there's one ball and there's a lot of guys that like, that like being the guy with the ball.

• 2:17:51Speaker 05

  Mm hmm. Yeah. No, it's, I mean, that's, it is valid, but, um, I don't know. I mean, as long as these guys, they seem like they're all getting along, like they're happy to be there. But like, we'll find out who they are, like that first moment of adversity.

• 2:18:04Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:18:04Speaker 05

  You know, like when they have, have a little skid or some guys have some bad games.

• 2:18:08Speaker 00

  What are we thinking about the Pacers? Because they're the, the long forgotten team in the NBA. They were, they were so close. And then obviously Halliburton getting injured, kind of ruined their entire immediate future plans. In the long term, maybe it wasn't so bad because they got to reload in the draft, but, um, they were so close. They were a really, really good team. And I feel like the sky was the limit until that injury. What do you expect from them?

• 2:18:31Speaker 05

  I, I mean, I think they're going to be one of those like, sort of not thought about as much teams in the East. Like everybody's talking about Boston and Miami and Brooklyn and New York, but like that's, you know, if Tyrese is, is back to his, where he was, um, pre-injury, zoom, him with Zubac is, uh, is, is such a good combination. I also think Rick Carlisle is a, uh, just a really good coach. Like he figures it out. Nobody, including myself, thought they were going to make it to the finals two seasons ago. Um, and they're, they're just a well coached team with like a, a pretty solid nucleus around them. I like, I don't know where I would put them in the East, but like, I think they, I think they, I, I think they're going to surprise people if people forgot.

• 2:19:16Speaker 00

  Um, all right. Rate this take because we're talking about sports journalism at the start. Uh, by the way, the step back, you can watch on YouTube or Amazon. Uh, first episode's out on Tuesday. It's good weekly, right? Every Tuesday?

• 2:19:29Speaker 05

  Yeah, every Tuesday.

• 2:19:30Speaker 00

  Love it. Love it. Uh, Victor Wembanyama can't win the big one.

• 2:19:37Speaker 05

  Uh, like ever or this year?

• 2:19:39Speaker 00

  Ever.

• 2:19:41Speaker 00

  No, like he, as of right now, he cannot win the big one.

• 2:19:46Speaker 05

  Yeah. Well, bad take.

• 2:19:48Speaker 00

  What? Okay.

• 2:19:48Speaker 05

  Right now, yeah, he hasn't. That's a bad take.

• 2:19:51Speaker 00

  Well, so, but I'm, I'm just basing off facts. Olympics, didn't win the big one. NBA cup, didn't win the big one. NBA finals, didn't win the big one.

• 2:20:01Speaker 05

  Thank you for saying that the NBA cup is a big one.

• 2:20:03Speaker 00

  I, oh, I respect the cup. I respect the cup. So.

• 2:20:07Speaker 05

  You saw what happened. I just said it. You saw what happened last year.

• 2:20:10Speaker 00

  Yeah. So I just gave you three times. He didn't win the big one. Can you give me one time that he won the big one?

• 2:20:15Speaker 05

  Um,

• 2:20:19Speaker 05

  Nike contract.

• 2:20:21Speaker 00

  Hmm. That's, I guess that's.

• 2:20:23Speaker 05

  He won the, he won the big one, uh, spiritually when he was training with the monks.

• 2:20:28Speaker 00

  True. Okay. Afterlife. Yeah. Nirvana. Yeah. It's probably the biggest one. Yeah. See, this is what you gotta do though. If you want to make it in this business, Blake, you gotta get to a take before everyone else, because everyone else is like, Victor Wembanyama is so awesome. He's going to win like four or five titles. On this show, we're like, he ain't going to win anything. He, he can't win the big one. I think it's a valid point to say achieving spiritual enlightenment could be, that could be the big one. Yeah. Also, if we're looking at the playoffs last year, everybody said the Western Conference Finals, that was the real NBA finals. So at the time, he was under the impression that that was the final. So that, that was a big one that in retrospect, maybe not as big as we thought.

• 2:21:10Speaker 05

  Yeah. And then everybody just pulled the rug out from under him. Like we, we had to play more.

• 2:21:14Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:21:15Speaker 05

  And, and I, I get it to hit like, you know, I don't know. You also like he, English is his second language. What if he wasn't reading the bracket correctly?

• 2:21:22Speaker 00

  That's true. Good point. Yeah. He didn't know what the big one was.

• 2:21:27Speaker 05

  So maybe we, maybe we shore up that English.

• 2:21:30Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 2:21:31Speaker 05

  And then he wins the big one.

• 2:21:32Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 2:21:33Speaker 05

  He's got to, he's got to, yeah, he's got to, he's got to know the bracket.

• 2:21:36Speaker 00

  What about the rest of the West? Because there's a, a lot of unknowns. We don't know. The Timberwolves might be fun. I don't know. I don't know if they're going to be fun or not, but.

• 2:21:43Speaker 05

  Might be.

• 2:21:44Speaker 00

  I, I, I think they'll be wild.

• 2:21:48Speaker 05

  Well, at least their press conferences will be off the charts. Good. Uh, I also think that the, the white Lakers, white showtime is going to be pretty fun to watch, uh, led by, uh, you know, our guy JJ, uh, who's been phenomenal in his, in his, uh, in his, the early part of his coaching career. He's been phenomenal. I'm excited. I mean, Luca like kind of having his own back. This team is like back to just him and if he can stay healthy, um, I don't know. I mean, the West is like, it is a two horse race, but like, I do think there's like a lot of like really interesting, like you said, the Minnesota, Portland,

• 2:22:30Speaker 05

  what happens? Ja, Dame back. Um, I don't know. I think there's some, there's going to be some good stuff out West.

• 2:22:37Speaker 00

  Do you think, you think the Nuggets have another championship in this iteration of the team? Or what do they have to do?

• 2:22:44Speaker 05

  Uh, man, like Peyton Watson leaving the Nuggets is like, that's, that's a, that's a tough blow. Like, they needed him last year in the playoffs. Everybody was banged up. So like a healthy Nuggets team, yeah, everybody's healthy. Jokic, like these, I, to me, still the best player. Like Wimby might be MVP and defensive player of the year this year, but I think Jokic, yeah, well, yeah, obviously. And Jokic can win the big one. He's proved that. Uh, so I don't know. I, I think, I think the, the Nuggets do, but this, this window is closing just because like all this injury stuff. I think once you start to have that injury bug, uh, it's hard to like come back and just have your whole team be like relatively healthy for a whole season.

• 2:23:29Speaker 00

  Yeah. What do you think's going, what do you think's going through Dalton Connect's head that he couldn't make the white team?

• 2:23:37Speaker 05

  Yeah, I don't, man.

• 2:23:39Speaker 00

  I still think he's gonna be good somewhere. We were, we were, we were saying it on, uh, earlier, like, I, I'm maybe stupid. Well, I know I'm stupid, but, and I wouldn't be good running a front office, but if you're a first round pick, I'm just like, you're always a first round pick. Like you're good at some, like someone saw something in you. You will be good eventually. And that's what I, like, I want the Bulls to get Dalton Connect. Why not? It's a free pick.

• 2:24:03Speaker 05

  Yeah. Yeah. So you're still high on just guys that have just completely fizzled out.

• 2:24:08Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah. He can score. You, what was, uh, what was the Cavs number one pick? Anthony, uh, Bennett? No, what was his name? Yeah. That guy could ball.

• 2:24:19Speaker 05

  He's, I mean, get, somebody give him a chance.

• 2:24:21Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:24:22Speaker 05

  So, so just so we have this straight, right now, you guys' take is low on sell Wimby.

• 2:24:29Speaker 00

  Yup.

• 2:24:29Speaker 05

  Buy Dalton.

• 2:24:30Speaker 00

  Correct.

• 2:24:31Speaker 05

  Yeah. Yeah. No, I, by the way, you're so right. You gotta get to stuff before everybody else. And I think you, I think you accomplished that.

• 2:24:40Speaker 03

  Don't connect. He, in the tournament, he could score points. He filled it up. That's all I remember. And also if he, listen, if he gets cut by the, uh, the all white Lakers, that might even be like a little bounce in his step.

• 2:24:51Speaker 00

  Yeah. It actually was the hardest team for him to make.

• 2:24:53Speaker 03

  Yeah. He, I mean, he.

• 2:24:55Speaker 00

  They already had to fill.

• 2:24:56Speaker 03

  He probably walks around a little bit of street cred.

• 2:24:58Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:24:59Speaker 05

  Yeah. Yeah. And then he goes to like Minnesota and he's just hanging out with LaMelo and Ant.

• 2:25:04Speaker 00

  Perfect. He's, he's ready to go. I think I'm gonna, I'm gonna buy, uh, question about.

• 2:25:10Speaker 05

  That is like an opposite blind side. If, if Ant and LaMelo take, uh,

• 2:25:17Speaker 05

  do his wing.

• 2:25:17Speaker 00

  Yeah. Yeah, I like it. Uh, I got a question about the old guys. Uh, Kevin Durant, Steph Curry, we already talked about LeBron. Like, one, are you amazed as, as I am that they're still doing it? And two, do you think that they still have that? Like, I think Steph does. I don't know about KD, but like, maybe it's because they can think the game. I mean, you, later in your career, your game shifted and changed where it's like you could, you could think the game better than maybe when you started and you learned more and you could be more of a wily vet. Is there a, a benefit to that? Some of the guys that maybe their athleticism isn't exactly what it was when they were in their twenties?

• 2:25:56Speaker 05

  Yeah, but those guys are so highly offensively skilled. Like KD is still like, I mean, he's still one of the best scorers. He, he just, he can shoot over anybody. And he just shoots at such a high clip. Like those guys, those guys will, I don't, you'll never see KD becoming like the, the eighth guy off the bench taking charges, you know, diving after loose balls. Not that he, you know, doesn't play hard, but, um, I don't know. Those guys are just like, just anomalies. Like they're, they're just so, so skilled that it feels like that they can play as long as they want. And KD is kind of a more impressive one. Cause like, I don't know, Keely's injury and still playing at like a really high level at this age is really impressive. Like LeBron's never been hurt.

• 2:26:41Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's interesting, huh?

• 2:26:42Speaker 05

  Really been hurt these last several years.

• 2:26:44Speaker 00

  Oh, that's interesting.

• 2:26:46Speaker 05

  He's never had a surgery.

• 2:26:48Speaker 03

  Whoa.

• 2:26:48Speaker 00

  Huh.

• 2:26:49Speaker 03

  That's really uncommon.

• 2:26:50Speaker 00

  Huh.

• 2:26:52Speaker 05

  Oh, yeah.

• 2:26:53Speaker 03

  Testament to how much, he takes really good care of his body.

• 2:26:55Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's.

• 2:26:56Speaker 03

  I was reading, I didn't even think about it. I was reading, reading how much he invests into his body and his health. Yeah.

• 2:27:01Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:27:02Speaker 00

  Never been hurt. Yeah.

• 2:27:04Speaker 05

  And he's, and he's 24 X that investment.

• 2:27:07Speaker 00

  Mm hmm.

• 2:27:07Speaker 03

  It's worked out well.

• 2:27:09Speaker 05

  It's a good deal in the investment world. I don't know if you guys are up on.

• 2:27:12Speaker 00

  Yeah, we, we do some investing. Yeah.

• 2:27:15Speaker 03

  We dabble.

• 2:27:16Speaker 05

  You invested in the Osos.

• 2:27:17Speaker 00

  Yeah, the Osos rock.

• 2:27:19Speaker 03

  Important part of our portfolio, that and the, uh, the Water Dogs.

• 2:27:22Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:27:23Speaker 03

  World champions.

• 2:27:24Speaker 00

  Yeah. We've won a ring there.

• 2:27:25Speaker 05

  Congratulations, by the way. I don't know if I ever.

• 2:27:27Speaker 03

  The big one. We won the big one.

• 2:27:28Speaker 00

  Thank you. We, we as owners show that we can win the big one. So we'll take that to the Osos.

• 2:27:34Speaker 05

  Where do you rank that championship in terms of like, where does that rank in like the, in a, like a Super Bowl, uh, NBA finals? Where, where we put that?

• 2:27:43Speaker 03

  I, number one.

• 2:27:44Speaker 00

  I was gonna say, it's probably like when you, uh, grab an old pair of pants and you find $20 in them.

• 2:27:51Speaker 05

  Uh, so yeah, the water dog, they're the old pair of pants.

• 2:27:55Speaker 00

  Yeah. With the $20. Like you're like, oh shit, I forgot that I had $20 in this pocket.

• 2:27:59Speaker 05

  Yes. Yeah.

• 2:28:00Speaker 03

  For me, I put it above.

• 2:28:01Speaker 00

  Yeah. Yeah.

• 2:28:02Speaker 03

  I put it above.

• 2:28:03Speaker 00

  What a day.

• 2:28:03Speaker 03

  Yeah. Like I don't care if my favorite team's winning football and baseball and hockey, basketball, but winning that, it was more meaningful because I had a part in it, you know?

• 2:28:13Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:28:14Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:28:14Speaker 05

  And what specifically did you, like, do you think like, what, what was your role besides being an owner? Like, how were you?

• 2:28:22Speaker 03

  I, um, I tweeted about him a couple of times.

• 2:28:25Speaker 00

  Yup. Uh, we both, we what?

• 2:28:29Speaker 03

  Named him.

• 2:28:29Speaker 00

  We named him. We both, PFT and I independently looked at the score in the finals, saw that we were winning.

• 2:28:38Speaker 03

  Most important part, we signed, we signed paperwork.

• 2:28:40Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:28:41Speaker 03

  We signed a contract like two years after we, we owned part of the team.

• 2:28:44Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:28:45Speaker 03

  They finally tracked us down. We, we signed.

• 2:28:47Speaker 00

  No, we love the Water Dogs, but I mean, Rabel does, the PLOs. Yeah. PLOs is on the up and up. Rabel does an awesome job with it. And we've won twice now. So it's also like, when people ask us, and this gets asked to us a lot, like, what's your favorite ring? We're like, the next one.

• 2:29:04Speaker 00

  Cause we have two. So, yeah.

• 2:29:06Speaker 05

  Dynasty.

• 2:29:07Speaker 00

  Yeah. Yeah. We're talking. We're talking dynasty. We're, you know, yeah, you, you can win the big one.

• 2:29:15Speaker 05

  I have won the big, I, I mean.

• 2:29:17Speaker 00

  Five times. Five times you've won the big one.

• 2:29:20Speaker 05

  It's crazy.

• 2:29:21Speaker 00

  Five times.

• 2:29:21Speaker 05

  Need to do a photo. I need to do one of those photo shoots.

• 2:29:25Speaker 00

  Kobe?

• 2:29:27Speaker 00

  Or, or MJ, yeah, with the, all the rings on the thumb, everything. What, uh, how's your golf game, by the way?

• 2:29:34Speaker 05

  Uh, you know what? I, I hurt my back in March, breaking news. Um, took a little time away, but I've been grinding recently. Got to play Liberty National, uh, last week. First, first round back was okay, but I'm really working on being a better player. That's like, that's my, it's my goal for this next year. I gotta, just like smooth the swing out, you know, take it, go on a journey, kind of like Hank did, but I'm just gonna keep doing right handed.

• 2:30:00Speaker 00

  Yeah. What, what, uh, when we had Austin Reeves on over the summer, uh, he said that JJ Reddick is afraid of his shadow. Have you noticed that when you played with him?

• 2:30:10Speaker 05

  Yes, I bought, uh, I bought JJ a, um, Puxitani Phil head cover.

• 2:30:19Speaker 05

  Cause he's like, uh, it's like a fucking groundhog, man. The guy sees his shadow and he just alters the course of everything. So I got a custom JJ. Is it, it's Puxitani, right?

• 2:30:30Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

• 2:30:33Speaker 05

  Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's, it's, it's remarkable. And like, he is so in his head about it. Can't do it.

• 2:30:41Speaker 00

  That's so funny. So.

• 2:30:43Speaker 05

  My shadow. My, my shadow. Don't call it out before.

• 2:30:47Speaker 00

  Yeah. So is he like only playing golf at like high noon? Like he can't play it like, you know, dusk because the shadows are so crazy?

• 2:30:55Speaker 05

  He's a real, he's a, he's a real golf sicko. So he's playing, he's playing whenever he gets a chance. It's just something he's gotta get through. As like, as just so, as locked in as he was as a player and just like laser focused as a coach, like is hilarious to watch him get up to a tee box and just be furious at his shadow, which has been with him his whole life.

• 2:31:16Speaker 00

  Yeah. Yeah.

• 2:31:18Speaker 05

  Is just in his head.

• 2:31:20Speaker 03

  The only defender he can't shake was in Los Angeles. It's like, it's there every day too. It's always sunny.

• 2:31:26Speaker 05

  It's always, it's always sunny in LA.

• 2:31:28Speaker 03

  That's crazy.

• 2:31:29Speaker 05

  I, I don't, I don't know. I don't know if he's done any, well, I haven't played with him in a little bit. So I don't know if he's done any like mental work or anything. I'm honestly pretty sure he probably has. So hopefully he's better now.

• 2:31:39Speaker 03

  Somebody should hire like an actor to get dressed up in a black bodysuit and just mimic all of JJ's actions, like right behind him on the bench. And just like, say that he's his shadow, just to freak him out during the game.

• 2:31:51Speaker 05

  Yeah. The seats right next to the Laker bench. That's, that's brilliant.

• 2:31:55Speaker 03

  Yeah. If you're, if you're feet on the whatever at the Staples Center Crypto Arena, you should maybe think about doing that.

• 2:32:04Speaker 05

  Yeah. I think, uh, I honestly think we should do that.

• 2:32:08Speaker 03

  Have you been to the new, the new Clippers arena?

• 2:32:11Speaker 05

  I have not. I have not. I, um, I heard it's cool though.

• 2:32:15Speaker 03

  I like the wall behind the basket. Yeah.

• 2:32:18Speaker 05

  Yeah, the wall. Look out for the wall.

• 2:32:22Speaker 05

  Yeah. It's a, and apparently a ton of toilets.

• 2:32:26Speaker 00

  Oh, it's important. That's good.

• 2:32:28Speaker 05

  That was like one of the, the things, like they didn't want people to stand in line to go to the restroom, get back to your seat and cheer on the Clippers.

• 2:32:36Speaker 00

  I like.

• 2:32:37Speaker 05

  I heard it. I heard it's phenomenal. And you don't have to, you just walk in, you grab a drink and you walk out. You know, there, there's no transactions happening. It's all face, face scan. So, um, they got a lot of, they got a lot of. They got a lot of personal information about it.

• 2:32:50Speaker 03

  That's good.

• 2:32:50Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's really good. Uh, I saw, by the way, you, you had a little take that, that not went viral, but people were writing about it, uh, that the NBA media voters, we need to get rid of them and have it, who, who would vote in your, in a perfect world? Cause I actually agree with you. I think it's really stupid that we have a system now that guys contracts are tied to like where they land on first team, second team, third team, and then a bunch of media guys get to vote on it. That's weird.

• 2:33:20Speaker 05

  Um, yeah. So like when I, I think when I was talking about it, like I was like, full disclosure, I don't really have a solve for this issue. Cause it's like, you can't, the GMs can't do it. The coaches can't vote. Players won't take it seriously. They'll vote for whoever. Um, so I don't know, I don't know what the answer is, but I, I do think maybe you just, maybe you, you, you take the pull down of the number of voters.

• 2:33:47Speaker 00

  I, I think the answer is you. I think it's, it's you get like 20 ex NBA players, like had to have played 10 years.

• 2:33:56Speaker 05

  Oh, I know you're going to say just me.

• 2:33:57Speaker 00

  Just you would be cool too. But like you guys knowing the game and a little bit removed. So you can't, you know, there's obviously some bias involved. Maybe it's like a 10 year period before you become a voter, but I'd feel confident with those guys, with guys who know the game.

• 2:34:12Speaker 05

  Yeah, but like, uh, you get too far removed and then you get the guys that are just like salty about how much guys are now making.

• 2:34:21Speaker 00

  True.

• 2:34:22Speaker 05

  And it becomes like the hate thing. So I don't know, there's not like a great, I'm, I'm still in that sweet spot, but I still have friends in the league, but once I don't have any friends in the league.

• 2:34:33Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:34:34Speaker 05

  I'm going to turn into like, um, back in my day, we played for nothing.

• 2:34:38Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:34:38Speaker 05

  We played for nothing. And these guys, they can't, can't even play full 82. I never played 82. Can't even play full 82. Unbelievable. I'm going to, I can't wait to turn into that like analyst.

• 2:34:51Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah. Maybe we should do it. Just this show should do it.

• 2:34:55Speaker 03

  Or Hall of Fame?

• 2:34:56Speaker 00

  Yeah, no, the NBA awards, we'll do it and we'll promise not to be biased. We'll promise not to watch too much basketball. Cause then you don't want to have like too many data points.

• 2:35:07Speaker 05

  Yeah. How much basketball are you watching?

• 2:35:09Speaker 00

  A lot. I wa, I watch a shitload of college basketball.

• 2:35:14Speaker 03

  We've watched every game this year so far.

• 2:35:15Speaker 00

  I watch.

• 2:35:16Speaker 05

  That's going to help with the NBA.

• 2:35:17Speaker 00

  Yeah. I watch a lot of college basketball.

• 2:35:21Speaker 03

  I always think Don't Connect is, is going to be like MVP.

• 2:35:24Speaker 00

  Yeah. Yeah, exactly. That guy could fucking hoop. I watch, uh, uh, not a ton of regular season NBA, all the playoffs, obviously. So, and we could just make our votes on the playoffs. So like, if you don't make the playoffs, you just don't exist in our world.

• 2:35:39Speaker 05

  Yeah, that's, I mean, that's, that's fair. I don't, I actually know, no issue with that. Maybe you guys will play harder during the regular season. So you recognize them in the postseason.

• 2:35:49Speaker 00

  Yeah. We make a promise not to watch till the playoffs.

• 2:35:52Speaker 03

  Can you give me your, uh, your final two teams in the east and your final two teams in the west?

• 2:35:57Speaker 00

  I like this.

• 2:35:58Speaker 05

  Well, let's, let's go Spurs, uh, Thunder.

• 2:36:01Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 2:36:02Speaker 05

  Um, east, I want to, so we, NBA on prime has the Eastern Conference Finals this year.

• 2:36:09Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 2:36:09Speaker 05

  We are, I'm going to be on site going back and forth. I wouldn't mind like a Knicks Philly.

• 2:36:15Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:36:16Speaker 05

  That would be a lot of fun. Um, yeah, let's go, let's, let's go Knicks Philly.

• 2:36:21Speaker 00

  Okay. All right.

• 2:36:23Speaker 05

  Philly, east, San Antonio, Oklahoma City, west.

• 2:36:27Speaker 00

  And the winner of it all?

• 2:36:32Speaker 05

  I'm going to go Oklahoma City this year.

• 2:36:34Speaker 00

  Okay. Yeah. So Wemby, you also think Wemby can't win the big one.

• 2:36:39Speaker 05

  This year.

• 2:36:40Speaker 03

  What about the, uh, what about the new offensive foul rules? The, uh, the little chicken wing? They say they're going to call it. Do you actually believe that stuff when they say they're going to make these little adjustments?

• 2:36:50Speaker 05

  So we have, we do, every year we do this, uh, not every year, the last two years, we've done this seminar for NBA in prime and, uh, Monty McCutcheon, who's the head of the refs, like he comes and speaks to us. I, I like some of the rules they implement, but also like, like there's, there's so much gray area to these like new rules that they put in. And like, when it comes down to it, certain guys get away with certain things more than other guys. Like that's just how it is. So like, I'm sure it's going to be a point of emphasis. And I think they're going to call it a little bit more early on, but like you're, then we're just going to, I think we're going to get back to like what it was towards the end of the season and in the playoffs.

• 2:37:26Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:37:27Speaker 05

  Some guys just get away with it.

• 2:37:28Speaker 00

  Um, all right. So everyone watch the step back every Tuesday, new episode. Uh, it's going to be great. Blake is the best. He knows sports. He's funny as fuck. It's actually, we've said this before. It's bullshit that you are so good at basketball and funny, uh, and good looking, got a six pack. It's not fair. It's not, some guys have it all. Blake has it all. As, as I can see my reflection in this zoom, and it's like my fat fucking face. Uh, all right. Roback question, R H O B A C K dot com. Promo code take 20% off your first purchase. Q Zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, roback.com promo code take Hank, you want to do it? Cause Zach's not here.

• 2:38:04Speaker 03

  Uh, sure. Blake, uh, Paul George, Paul George has talked about playing for Boston and how this team and these guys have, have brought something out of him that he feels like has been buried for a long time and, and has a new passion for the game. You, you obviously spent some time in Boston. What, what is it? What do they have? And how is that possible going from, you know, a playoff team that beat Boston to now being on that team and saying like, he feels an energy that he hasn't felt in a long, long time. Like what was buried?

• 2:38:33Speaker 05

  Uh, I, I honestly truly believe there's certain franchises just have like a way of going about, like there's a standard, like it, it, people talk about setting the standard. We wanted to be, but like Boston has like a historical standard and like, you don't really appreciate it until you get there. And you, the, the, the vibe there is like everybody works. Everybody works really hard. Brad Stevens, to me is like a, uh, he's one of the best GMs. He's just incredibly thoughtful. Um, I think, I think it's that, I think it's like the, the fans, the organization, and then also the guys, the guys they've drafted, the guys that are on the team, the guys that they sign, like they, they, they,

• 2:39:18Speaker 05

  that matters to them. And I think that like, that seeps through to everything. So I, I experienced exactly what PG said. So, um, I believe it.

• 2:39:28Speaker 00

  All right. Awesome. Blake, always great to see you. Hopefully see you. Well, we'll see you hopefully, uh, Superbowl week in LA.

• 2:39:35Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:39:36Speaker 00

  You'll be there.

• 2:39:37Speaker 05

  Let's go play some golf or something.

• 2:39:38Speaker 00

  Yeah, we should. We should do a golf video. But I think the last time we did a golf video, it was one of the worst videos.

• 2:39:43Speaker 03

  And maybe we'll just play some golf.

• 2:39:45Speaker 00

  It was tough. We'll just play some golf with no cameras. That'd be fun. That'd be a great time.

• 2:39:50Speaker 05

  Bring the cameras, bring the cameras.

• 2:39:52Speaker 00

  Yeah. All right.

• 2:39:53Speaker 05

  I'm going to be working on my swing. I want to show it off, you know?

• 2:39:55Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:39:56Speaker 03

  I missed that house that I hit three times on three different holes.

• 2:39:59Speaker 00

  Oh yeah, that was a bad one.

• 2:40:00Speaker 03

  I want, I want another crack at it. Yeah.

• 2:40:02Speaker 05

  Honestly, who, why would someone build a house there? Why would, why would someone build a house 100 yards away from a?

• 2:40:13Speaker 00

  Three different holes. Uh, all right, Blake, you're the best man. Everyone go watch the step back. We're rooting for you.

• 2:40:18Speaker 05

  Thanks guys. Appreciate it.

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• 2:42:06Speaker 00

  Okay. Fyre Fest of the Week, Henry.

• 2:42:11Speaker 02

  Great week. Honestly, this might be the nicest week of weather like this. It was every single day sunny, 60 to 70, felt like 75, fall crisp air like this. I've always been a summer, summer greater than, but this, this weather, I'll take this weather over anything, anything.

• 2:42:29Speaker 00

  October has been just pristine.

• 2:42:32Speaker 03

  Like 72 degrees every day. Beautiful.

• 2:42:35Speaker 02

  So we worked, filmed, filmed a grudge match with Jerry.

• 2:42:37Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:42:38Speaker 02

  Smoked him.

• 2:42:39Speaker 03

  I was gonna say your fire fest is probably that you're never gonna quit playing left-handed because you're, you're mowing people down. You mowed down Chef Donnie and you destroyed Jerry. How, how quickly did Jerry quit?

• 2:42:50Speaker 02

  He, I was up four after the first hole and I started putting lefty because I felt bad. I was like, I'll just beat you all the way lefty, which I realized, you know, I, I, he started to make the excuse and then I, I thought you were gonna start making that excuse too. So I will be just every grudge match, all lefty.

• 2:43:03Speaker 00

  So.

• 2:43:04Speaker 02

  It was, I think he quit after the sixth hole. I was up nine after two holes.

• 2:43:08Speaker 00

  Other, other than the Patriots losing to the Bears.

• 2:43:11Speaker 02

  Celtics lost, Patriots won, so those offset.

• 2:43:14Speaker 00

  Just, we're taping this early in the morning on Thursday. Bears won. So you're, that's bad start to the season.

• 2:43:22Speaker 02

  No.

• 2:43:22Speaker 00

  Celtics and then.

• 2:43:23Speaker 02

  No, tonight's gonna be special.

• 2:43:25Speaker 00

  Okay, okay, okay. I, I was thinking about it though.

• 2:43:28Speaker 03

  Is there a mayor's bet?

• 2:43:29Speaker 00

  No, there isn't. We could come up with one. I, I did bet, uh, I do have a bet with Yandel. Loser has to take winner, uh, out golfing, uh, to the Grove in Miami, uh, Michael Jordan's golf.

• 2:43:43Speaker 02

  That's a good bet.

• 2:43:43Speaker 00

  Yeah. So loser has to take winner out.

• 2:43:45Speaker 03

  You don't want to lose that one.

• 2:43:46Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's gonna, this will be really tough.

• 2:43:48Speaker 02

  Place is miserable.

• 2:43:51Speaker 00

  Hank, so you're just mowing down all the competition lefty?

• 2:43:55Speaker 02

  Yeah, and PFT and Grinnell and then, and, and that's it.

• 2:43:58Speaker 00

  So when is it? Did you tape with PFT yet?

• 2:44:00Speaker 02

  We're P, PFT is coming next week.

• 2:44:01Speaker 00

  Okay, cool. So you're just fucking lining them up, knocking them down.

• 2:44:06Speaker 02

  Yeah, it feels good. I think we're, I think we're on something.

• 2:44:08Speaker 00

  With, is there a part of you that's like, I'm gonna stay lefty because I just can beat all my friends lefty?

• 2:44:12Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:44:13Speaker 03

  That's what I was thinking. Like that's, that's a true fire fest because like you just did this whole thing of, oh, I'm gonna get locked in for locktober, whatever the fuck weird.

• 2:44:21Speaker 02

  That didn't happen, by the way. The weather, the weather.

• 2:44:23Speaker 03

  Yeah, no shit.

• 2:44:23Speaker 02

  I thought it was gonna be like, oh, it's getting, you know, it's, it's golf season's over. It's time to lock in. I've golfed more than ever.

• 2:44:29Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:44:30Speaker 02

  I've been golfing more than ever.

• 2:44:31Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:44:32Speaker 00

  Every day.

• 2:44:33Speaker 03

  And you thought, you thought it was gonna be over. You thought locktober was gonna be the end of everything.

• 2:44:38Speaker 00

  No.

• 2:44:39Speaker 02

  No.

• 2:44:39Speaker 03

  No, it's just a start.

• 2:44:41Speaker 02

  I mean, when does it get bad?

• 2:44:42Speaker 00

  Fall golf is incredible.

• 2:44:43Speaker 02

  Like when is, is it November? Like?

• 2:44:45Speaker 03

  I'd say late in Hank Vember.

• 2:44:47Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:44:47Speaker 00

  I think next week is supposed to get a little colder.

• 2:44:49Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:44:49Speaker 00

  But yeah, no, fall golf is the best. If you can get some night, like.

• 2:44:53Speaker 02

  60 degrees and sunny is the best. Like it's better than the summer where, you know, like it is the best weather to play where it's like you can wear shorts and a polo and not.

• 2:45:02Speaker 00

  Even next week doesn't look so bad.

• 2:45:04Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:45:04Speaker 00

  No, yeah.

• 2:45:07Speaker 02

  If the sun's out, it's, it's great.

• 2:45:08Speaker 03

  That's a fact.

• 2:45:11Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 2:45:11Speaker 02

  Yeah, great week.

• 2:45:12Speaker 00

  Yeah. Okay. Except for the fact that the Patriots lost to the Bears.

• 2:45:16Speaker 02

  Nope.

• 2:45:17Speaker 03

  What was the score?

• 2:45:18Speaker 00

  It was 34 to 21.

• 2:45:22Speaker 03

  Okay. That's kind of, that's a blowout.

• 2:45:24Speaker 00

  Yeah, it was a little bit of blow up, PFT.

• 2:45:25Speaker 02

  I'll take that exact same score, but it was 34, 21 Patriots.

• 2:45:29Speaker 00

  Pick your own score, dude. You, you're the fucking loser who goes to dinner and you're like, I'll have what he's having.

• 2:45:34Speaker 02

  All right, 31, 31, 24, tie game, uh, Drake May throws a hail Mary.

• 2:45:40Speaker 03

  Oh, hail Mary.

• 2:45:41Speaker 00

  Hail Mary. So you'd still take the extra point?

• 2:45:45Speaker 02

  Yeah, there's like, uh, 10 seconds left.

• 2:45:46Speaker 00

  Okay, got it. Oh, hail Mary with 10 seconds.

• 2:45:49Speaker 03

  That must've been a really far hail Mary.

• 2:45:51Speaker 02

  Or yeah.

• 2:45:51Speaker 03

  To, yeah, to not even try to kick a field goal.

• 2:45:54Speaker 00

  Right. And 10 seconds left, not even get, not even get an extra yardage.

• 2:45:59Speaker 03

  That's like, that's a super specific window that you had. So hey, I, I hope it happened.

• 2:46:05Speaker 02

  What do you think, PFT? What's your score prediction?

• 2:46:08Speaker 03

  Yeah, I think it was a, uh, I, I think it was a tie. I think it was, I think it was 30-30.

• 2:46:13Speaker 00

  I will say it's very, it's, it's funny, like.

• 2:46:16Speaker 03

  Who do you want to win?

• 2:46:18Speaker 00

  We're both supremely, I'm confident that the Bears are gonna win.

• 2:46:21Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 2:46:22Speaker 00

  Yeah, you're very confident the Patriots are gonna win.

• 2:46:24Speaker 03

  Are you asking me who I?

• 2:46:24Speaker 02

  Well, it's like, I'm just back against the wall where it's like every single person I've talked to for the last week, it's like, oh, talk to bears, bears, bears, bears. Where it's like, I, I just, I'm, I'm just, I know, no, I know. But it's like, I, I.

• 2:46:34Speaker 00

  Tie would be very funny.

• 2:46:35Speaker 04

  Let's just remember this game already happened.

• 2:46:37Speaker 00

  Yeah, no, that's fine. But this will be fun for people to listen to because I'm supremely confident. Hank is supremely confident in the Patriots. If one of the teams gets blown out, this will be a very funny portion of the, the show.

• 2:46:47Speaker 03

  I want a tie, but if I can't have a tie, I want the Bears to win because I do have a Super Bowl bet on the Bears. Just like I root for the Patriots when I had a Super Bowl bet on the Patriots last year.

• 2:46:56Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:46:56Speaker 04

  What if the Bears win, but Drake May plays really, like really, really well?

• 2:47:01Speaker 03

  That'd be awesome. I love good football.

• 2:47:04Speaker 04

  You like when Drake May plays well?

• 2:47:05Speaker 03

  Yeah, it doesn't bother me. Like either way, I like watching good football, Max.

• 2:47:09Speaker 04

  Yeah, I guess Glenn, yeah.

• 2:47:11Speaker 00

  Good football. Yeah. We don't know who Glenn is. All right, PFT. So that's it? Your fire fest was, it was too sunny this week? And you played too much golf?

• 2:47:17Speaker 02

  Yeah, my fire fest is I thought I was gonna be more locked in in October, but I've, I've just been playing like golf in the best weather.

• 2:47:24Speaker 00

  Okay, yeah.

• 2:47:24Speaker 02

  Tough.

• 2:47:25Speaker 00

  Did you, can I ask one question about the Celtics? Did you see Rusillo's take?

• 2:47:31Speaker 02

  No.

• 2:47:31Speaker 00

  He said the Boston Celtics are the Jalen Hurts of the NBA. I love this take. He basically was like, it, it, it, it's really tough to watch. It works in theory, but it's really hard to watch.

• 2:47:43Speaker 02

  When they miss.

• 2:47:44Speaker 04

  Fuck Rusillo.

• 2:47:46Speaker 00

  That's an awesome, that's an awesome take.

• 2:47:49Speaker 04

  Pissing off me and Hank.

• 2:47:50Speaker 02

  Something like that also is not. I know what he's saying because when.

• 2:47:55Speaker 00

  It kinda makes sense.

• 2:47:56Speaker 02

  When they're missing threes, it's miserable. Where it's like, all right, like they, you know, the strategy is to shoot a ton of threes when they miss a lot of threes. But, but Jalen Hurts isn't, it's not like Jalen Hurts is like throwing it deep and missing deep shots. And that's like, Jalen Hurts is just bad to watch.

• 2:48:11Speaker 04

  It's wrong.

• 2:48:12Speaker 02

  I don't even know when, like when Jalen, Jalen Hurts, when he's like, they're more like Brett Favre. Like they're, they're, they're gunslingers. They just sometimes miss a lot.

• 2:48:20Speaker 00

  Okay. I just love that he just hit the, like he, he found a way.

• 2:48:24Speaker 02

  I've never watched a Jalen Hurts game and like, this is an electric quarterback performance.

• 2:48:27Speaker 04

  You never watched two Super Bowls?

• 2:48:30Speaker 00

  He watched.

• 2:48:30Speaker 04

  You never watched two Super Bowls?

• 2:48:31Speaker 00

  Two Super Bowls.

• 2:48:32Speaker 04

  That was fucking idiotic.

• 2:48:37Speaker 00

  That was dumb. You sounded like a dumb dog.

• 2:48:40Speaker 03

  That's, that's literally the only counter argument that you have to prepare for when you're talking about Jalen Hurts.

• 2:48:45Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:48:46Speaker 03

  That's the only one you gotta be.

• 2:48:47Speaker 00

  Incredible in two Super Bowls.

• 2:48:48Speaker 03

  Yeah. And it's a great counter, but if you prepare for it, you can handle it.

• 2:48:51Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:48:52Speaker 03

  You just, just ignore that completely.

• 2:48:55Speaker 02

  Yeah, whatever.

• 2:48:57Speaker 00

  All right, PFT?

• 2:48:59Speaker 03

  Um, pretty good week. Hey, I'm with Hank. Uh, not a lot to complain about. Uh, Whizzer 1-0 about to be 2-0 and then about to be 3-0 and we might not ever lose another game. Um, I guess the only fire fest, it actually just happened pretty recently. I'm getting grilled about something. I don't know why I'm getting grilled about it, but I'm being forced to answer, uh, for something that somebody else did.

• 2:49:22Speaker 00

  Oh, no.

• 2:49:23Speaker 03

  And the craziest part about it, it sounds like it was a really nice thing that this other person did, but for some reason, I'm a bad guy.

• 2:49:30Speaker 02

  I'm, I asked for advice.

• 2:49:32Speaker 03

  Yeah, I didn't even do it.

• 2:49:33Speaker 02

  I asked for advice.

• 2:49:34Speaker 03

  Reset the table here.

• 2:49:35Speaker 02

  No, set the table correctly.

• 2:49:36Speaker 03

  I'm setting it.

• 2:49:37Speaker 02

  You're putting the knives and the forks on the wrong side.

• 2:49:39Speaker 03

  No, Hank.

• 2:49:39Speaker 02

  You're putting the, the knife on the, you're putting the forks on the right, knife on the left.

• 2:49:44Speaker 03

  Cocktail hour. Now I'm about to set the table. All right?

• 2:49:47Speaker 00

  So pigs and blankets are gone.

• 2:49:49Speaker 03

  No more. Bar's closed.

• 2:49:51Speaker 02

  Yeah, set it correctly.

• 2:49:52Speaker 03

  You'll, you'll receive, you'll receive wine at your table.

• 2:49:54Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:49:54Speaker 03

  Everyone have a seat.

• 2:49:55Speaker 00

  Max, I bet you like that, you chick.

• 2:49:58Speaker 04

  Yeah, mine's good.

• 2:50:00Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 2:50:00Speaker 04

  PFT, you like wine?

• 2:50:02Speaker 00

  I like wine too.

• 2:50:04Speaker 04

  No, you don't like, you're not.

• 2:50:05Speaker 00

  I do. I just like, I like just making you seem like it's a chick thing.

• 2:50:09Speaker 03

  I like Mad Dog.

• 2:50:10Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:50:11Speaker 03

  MD 2020, baby.

• 2:50:13Speaker 00

  I like Twisted Tea.

• 2:50:15Speaker 03

  Twisted Tea's the best, yeah.

• 2:50:16Speaker 04

  Yeah, I like Twisted Tea too.

• 2:50:17Speaker 02

  Pepsi.

• 2:50:18Speaker 03

  So can I set the table?

• 2:50:19Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:50:20Speaker 03

  All right. Uh, so I walked in here and Hank confronted me about something and the confrontation was what would you do, PFT, if you were in this situation? Apparently Glenn Tape Watch had two tickets for the Patriots Bears game earlier today.

• 2:50:36Speaker 00

  Oh, wow.

• 2:50:36Speaker 03

  That one of you guys won or maybe tied. And Glenn Tape Watch sent two tickets to Drake May Lover.

• 2:50:45Speaker 00

  Uh, who works here?

• 2:50:45Speaker 03

  Who works here because he knew that Drake May Lover loves Drake May.

• 2:50:49Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah.

• 2:50:49Speaker 03

  And so it sounds like Glenn Tape Watch might be a bit of a Drake May Lover lover. And so he sent him two tickets to tonight's game. Drake May Lover, he, he is new to Chicago, big Patriots fan, hasn't been to a Pats game in a very long time. Uh, and so I guess Glenn thought it'd be a good idea to send him free tickets to the game. Um, and then apparently Drake May Lover told Hank about that.

• 2:51:10Speaker 00

  Hmm.

• 2:51:11Speaker 03

  And then Hank told Drake May Lover to send the tickets back to Glenn Tape Watch and to not accept them.

• 2:51:17Speaker 00

  Well.

• 2:51:18Speaker 03

  Knowing that Hank had a ticket to the game, but Drake May Lover does not have a ticket to the game.

• 2:51:22Speaker 00

  Now.

• 2:51:23Speaker 03

  And so I'm, I, he asked me what I would do in that situation.

• 2:51:27Speaker 00

  Glenn Tape Watch, what? Oh.

• 2:51:30Speaker 02

  That's fine. That's the.

• 2:51:32Speaker 03

  What'd I get wrong about that?

• 2:51:33Speaker 04

  You can't eh and then say that.

• 2:51:34Speaker 02

  75, it's like 75% of what, what happened.

• 2:51:37Speaker 00

  I will say.

• 2:51:38Speaker 03

  No, no, no, no. Well then tell, tell the rest of the story because I think that's pretty much it.

• 2:51:43Speaker 02

  Glenn Tape Watch, I was like, PFT, we know, I, I was trying to deal with Max because we're, you know, PFT is like, we all think it's Max. It's Glenn Tape Watch. I'm like, how should I, how should I go about the situation with Max?

• 2:51:54Speaker 02

  Glenn Tape Watch is an op. And Drake May Lover is new, very fresh and very like, you know, can be intimidated easily. And he was like, oh, Glenn Tape Watch sent me these tickets. What should I do? And I was like, well, that makes no sense because if it's Max and we work in the same office, you would think Max would go up and nicely offer him tickets. Or maybe DM him from Max's own account. So it was weird to me that the person who's running Glenn Tape Watch is hiding behind their account, which is also a Drake May somewhat of a hate account. So I told him, do not take the bait. Give those tickets back. I promise I will get you a ticket. So I, I have, I'm not leaving him high and dry by any means. But we can't be taking blood diamonds. And that's just something that he's got to learn.

• 2:52:39Speaker 02

  Dealing with people like Glenn Tape Watch.

• 2:52:42Speaker 03

  I, last I saw Glenn Tape Watch calls it, he calls it balls and strikes like he sees it. And he, he was not slandering Drake May last week. I think he, his most recent video, if anything, he was slandering Jaden Daniels.

• 2:52:52Speaker 00

  I got a question.

• 2:52:53Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 2:52:54Speaker 00

  Uh, as a gl- a glentleman myself, uh, I, I saw that this ticket was like one of the highest priced tickets in, uh, the regular season in a long time. It was like $700 for this game.

• 2:53:08Speaker 03

  Really?

• 2:53:09Speaker 00

  And I'm a glentleman and I subscribe to the, uh, you know, uh, to get the, the Glenn Tape Watch tape early. So it's like a hundred bucks, I think. And I'm part of the, the Tape Watch University and all these things. How's, how's, how's Glenn Tape Watch affording these tickets? Is my money going to?

• 2:53:28Speaker 03

  I, I don't know. Um, I saw something about some settlement that he was paying back over the next couple of weeks, but I don't know.

• 2:53:34Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 2:53:35Speaker 03

  He hasn't been online because of that thing where he went to the cabin upstate.

• 2:53:38Speaker 00

  It'd be a shame if we had a class action lawsuit against, uh, Glenn Tape Watch as a glent- as glentleman.

• 2:53:43Speaker 03

  If he would, is this like his Craig Carton tongue where he's taking all the subscriptions? He's buying tickets and then, and then flipping them?

• 2:53:50Speaker 00

  Listen, if the tape, if the tape keeps showing up, then I won't have a complaint.

• 2:53:53Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:53:54Speaker 00

  You know what I'm saying?

• 2:53:55Speaker 03

  Yeah. I mean, as far as I know, the tape's going to keep showing up. I have no reason to doubt Glenn Tape Watch.

• 2:53:59Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 2:53:59Speaker 03

  I just thought, it's, it's a shame that.

• 2:54:01Speaker 00

  Seems like he's a nice guy.

• 2:54:02Speaker 03

  It doesn't, it sounds also like he's so deep inside Hank's head that Hank doesn't know which way's up. He's telling his support in this at this company to not accept free gifts and free tickets to a game that was, as he mentioned, super, super expensive.

• 2:54:16Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:54:18Speaker 02

  Correct.

• 2:54:19Speaker 03

  Okay. All right.

• 2:54:21Speaker 00

  Glenn Tape Watch, as, as you're concerned, is an op.

• 2:54:25Speaker 02

  Glenn Tape Watch is an op. I know that for a fact.

• 2:54:27Speaker 00

  Right. I'm a glentleman.

• 2:54:29Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:54:30Speaker 00

  Max, you're a glentleman? Well, no, we subscribe. We can't subscribe.

• 2:54:35Speaker 03

  Some may say that.

• 2:54:36Speaker 00

  Subscriptions are not endorsements.

• 2:54:38Speaker 03

  Subscriptions are not.

• 2:54:38Speaker 00

  I have no idea Glenn Tape Watch's past and any of his beliefs.

• 2:54:42Speaker 03

  Some may say would actually be a fire name for his album. But it's M A Y. M A Y E.

• 2:54:49Speaker 04

  All 22 second songs.

• 2:54:51Speaker 03

  Yeah. I heard he has a banger feature too. Like I heard he secured an A-list name.

• 2:54:59Speaker 00

  Wow.

• 2:55:00Speaker 03

  To, to perform on one of the tracks.

• 2:55:02Speaker 04

  Wow. Excited to hear that.

• 2:55:03Speaker 02

  I've just been in, in this, in this game for a long time and it, you know, they always, the,

• 2:55:08Speaker 00

  Tape Watch game?

• 2:55:08Speaker 02

  The age old saying is like, if something seems like it's too good to be true, it's because it is. Glenn Tape Watch was not just earnestly offering Drake May Lover tickets. I know that for a fact.

• 2:55:21Speaker 03

  You think Glenn?

• 2:55:22Speaker 02

  Something was going to come, like, there's going to be, it's some type of like, afterwards, then now that like you're, he, you're, he's going to be compromised and we can't have that.

• 2:55:31Speaker 03

  You thought that he was like, I, I made you this giant cool sculpture of a horse, Drake May Lover. Just take it.

• 2:55:37Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 2:55:37Speaker 03

  You're going to love it.

• 2:55:38Speaker 02

  Correct.

• 2:55:39Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:55:40Speaker 02

  We cannot compromise Drake May Lover. We will not.

• 2:55:42Speaker 04

  What could possibly be a negative with Drake May Lover going to this game?

• 2:55:48Speaker 02

  I don't know, but I'm sure Glenn would tell us after the fact.

• 2:55:51Speaker 00

  I, I just want to say shout out, this why I remain a glentleman.

• 2:55:54Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:55:55Speaker 00

  Uh, Hank has been so consumed with Glenn Tape Watch that his eyes are not, have not been on this game at all today. And again, this game already happened. So this is very out of order, but still.

• 2:56:07Speaker 03

  It'd be a shame if there was a curse.

• 2:56:09Speaker 00

  Oh, for not taking the tickets?

• 2:56:11Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:56:11Speaker 00

  Wow.

• 2:56:12Speaker 03

  Well, it's not so much for, I understand why maybe Drake May Lover felt pressured into not taking the tickets.

• 2:56:18Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:56:19Speaker 03

  But in terms of like forcing somebody that doesn't have tickets to not accept.

• 2:56:23Speaker 02

  You keep saying that he has tickets. He's, he went to the game. Better seats than the ones Glenn offered.

• 2:56:28Speaker 03

  Okay. Cause when you talk.

• 2:56:29Speaker 04

  We don't know, we don't know that.

• 2:56:30Speaker 03

  When you, when you told me, when you told me right when we got in here, um, about the, the predicament that you were in, you said that he didn't have tickets, but you were going to try to figure out a way to get him tickets.

• 2:56:40Speaker 02

  I will, I will go on Tick Pick and buy him tickets that are way, way better than, uh, whatever the fucking cheap seats Glenn was getting.

• 2:56:49Speaker 03

  I think they're in the 200s.

• 2:56:50Speaker 00

  We had to know when the NFL announced the schedule and they put Bears Patriots Thursday night, we would put out the most confusing out of order podcast possible. And that's where we are right now.

• 2:56:59Speaker 03

  Yeah, but it's, I don't even know.

• 2:57:01Speaker 04

  I think it was super nice of Glenn Tape Watch. I don't know. I don't understand why Hank is so alarmed by a, a gift.

• 2:57:08Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:57:09Speaker 04

  What could possible, what could possibly, do you think that he, that Drake May Lover is going to show up at his seat?

• 2:57:14Speaker 02

  It's a Trojan war.

• 2:57:15Speaker 04

  And there's, like, what, like, what could possibly happen of Drake May Lover showing up at that game? Do you think he sent him fake, fake tickets? There's no way Glenn Tape Watch would do such a thing.

• 2:57:26Speaker 03

  That would be a real dirty move if he did, Max.

• 2:57:29Speaker 04

  There's no way. There's no, maybe if Glenn Tape Watch was sending the tickets to Hank, there's no way he would do that to Drake May.

• 2:57:35Speaker 02

  You've watched his bullshit videos. He's still running AJ Brown's no arms, all this bullshit. Why would he then offer such a nice thing? When so, so many of his videos have been slanderous.

• 2:57:46Speaker 03

  Maybe you should ask him that.

• 2:57:48Speaker 04

  Yeah. He's, Glenn Tape Watch is a fair, fair NFL scout.

• 2:57:52Speaker 03

  The more I, the more I'm like consuming his content, and I know he did say it was Max for a while. Uh, I think he, I think he's just a real person.

• 2:57:59Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm. I agree. And that would make, that would track for buying the tickets.

• 2:58:05Speaker 03

  It would, yeah.

• 2:58:05Speaker 00

  Yeah. Okay. Uh, good Fyre Fest. My Fyre Fest is, uh, it's nothing compared to that. I, I don't know. I just, I, we talked about it on Sunday, but Max and I, uh, when, when Mike McCarthy went in the blue tent, I, I just have like, I think I might have a torn ACL and I don't even know what to do with it. My knee just hurts.

• 2:58:24Speaker 04

  I'm back.

• 2:58:25Speaker 00

  I've been lifting again and my knee just hurts. I, it's not actually torn ACL. I just think I'm, this is why getting any type of like, doing any type of exercise is always scary when you're over 40 because I just immediately am like, well, that hurt. And that doesn't feel good. And now I don't know if I'll be injured or not.

• 2:58:43Speaker 03

  Is it clicking?

• 2:58:44Speaker 00

  No, it's just like a real strain on the outside. I think maybe it's the IT bands. Is that something?

• 2:58:48Speaker 03

  You gotta roll those out.

• 2:58:49Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:58:50Speaker 03

  They always say roll those out, but it honestly, that's my least favorite exercise to do.

• 2:58:54Speaker 00

  Yeah. Yeah. No, it's terrible. That's the thing. It's all the things that like, I've been back to trying to do a better job of, especially in football season. I've been walking a lot. I've been lifting. I'm cool. Like if I can go, if I have 30 minutes, I can do some squats. I could do, you know, some, throw around a little weight, feel better. All the things I should be doing are like yoga and elastic band work. And that shit is so boring.

• 2:59:18Speaker 03

  It is. It's very boring. I saw, I tried to do yoga. I, I try to do it every day. Um, it's, it's such a boring way to start your day.

• 2:59:27Speaker 00

  So boring, dude.

• 2:59:28Speaker 03

  It's, that's my problem is it's just boring. I feel better after I do it.

• 2:59:31Speaker 00

  I need, I need.

• 2:59:32Speaker 03

  It's just boring.

• 2:59:32Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:59:33Speaker 03

  They should do, someone should do yoga for guys.

• 2:59:36Speaker 00

  We should have someone come in and give us like a 15 seconds or 15 minutes stretching. Like actual do a yoga class. What if we did yoga classes here? What if someone gave yoga classes?

• 2:59:47Speaker 04

  We've, we've talked about this before.

• 2:59:49Speaker 00

  And what did we land on?

• 2:59:50Speaker 04

  And we, we, we said we're going to do that and never did it.

• 2:59:53Speaker 00

  Okay. That sounds like us.

• 2:59:54Speaker 04

  Yep. I still got to figure out how to play the harmonica.

• 2:59:58Speaker 03

  What is the, uh, what's the hot yoga called?

• 3:00:01Speaker 00

  Uh, Bikram.

• 3:00:02Speaker 03

  Yeah. Barstool Bikram.

• 3:00:04Speaker 00

  Dude, I want to get a sauna in here. We were talking about that. Getting like a sauna and a cold plunge.

• 3:00:12Speaker 04

  Then everyone just be sweaty at work.

• 3:00:13Speaker 00

  Well, we were making a key card so that only certain people.

• 3:00:16Speaker 03

  Like the executive washroom.

• 3:00:19Speaker 00

  Yeah. Yeah. No, I, I believe me. The minute we, Hank and I actually had this conversation like, wouldn't it be sick? And then we were like, well, until you walk in and Mincy is just dripping sweat and like, he would stand over someone while they're eating lunch, dripping sweat on them.

• 3:00:33Speaker 03

  There's that. And there's also the, uh, the Mincy conversation factor in the sauna.

• 3:00:37Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 3:00:38Speaker 02

  Yeah, you can't.

• 3:00:39Speaker 00

  Consider that for a second.

• 3:00:39Speaker 02

  You can't, like, and not, not, I mean, not just Mincy, but mostly, mostly we're just talking about Mincy, but you, like, if, if you're in a situation at the office where you don't want to get stuck talking to someone, you can kind of walk away or be like, oh, you know, I got something that I got to walk to. If you're walking into the sauna and then the person's already in there, you can't really just turn around and be like, I gotta go.

• 3:01:01Speaker 03

  Yeah, I was.

• 3:01:02Speaker 02

  Like they know you're coming down to sit for at least 10 to 15 minutes.

• 3:01:06Speaker 00

  Also as a man.

• 3:01:06Speaker 02

  And you're just stuck.

• 3:01:08Speaker 00

  If you walk into a sauna, you can't leave. If you, if someone's in the sauna and you walk in, you can't leave before they leave.

• 3:01:14Speaker 03

  No.

• 3:01:15Speaker 00

  They could have just walked in, but it's just a, that's a straight up alpha thing.

• 3:01:19Speaker 03

  Yeah. It's a, it's a competition. The second you get in.

• 3:01:21Speaker 00

  If you walk into a sauna and someone's in there and then you leave before they leave, you're a bitch.

• 3:01:25Speaker 03

  I also think there's, there's some HR violations waiting to happen if we give Nicky Smokes access to that too.

• 3:01:30Speaker 00

  All right. So maybe not a sauna, maybe a personal sauna for us. We'll figure it out. All right. Zach, either way, yeah, we got to get more flexible. I don't know how to do that. We might, might need to hire someone. Uh, we might just need to hire someone to like, you know what it is, Max? Cause I think yoga, we're just never going to get into yoga. I think we need to hire like an actual medical training staff. Like if we had a training staff with a stretched out, like a board, we get taped up before we podcast. That might be the way to do it.

• 3:02:00Speaker 03

  Yeah. Got my treatment.

• 3:02:01Speaker 00

  There's a guy in Patsies and polos walking around, just like giving, you know, squirting water in our mouth, being like, let me check out your knee real quick.

• 3:02:08Speaker 04

  That was the best part about college baseball is that the trainer would stretch you out before the game.

• 3:02:11Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's what we need.

• 3:02:12Speaker 04

  So much better after.

• 3:02:13Speaker 00

  Okay. I'll look into this.

• 3:02:14Speaker 03

  While we're up to that, we should, you ever see that show Billions that they have the psychologist? There should also just be a psychologist that works here.

• 3:02:20Speaker 00

  That, that, that person would, yeah.

• 3:02:25Speaker 03

  They have to be the most well-paid psychologist in the world.

• 3:02:28Speaker 00

  I think they would quit. Cause you guys are all like, you guys all have something wrong with you.

• 3:02:32Speaker 04

  I think they would write a book.

• 3:02:33Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 3:02:34Speaker 04

  Being like, this is the most difficult job in the world. Here's how I got through it.

• 3:02:38Speaker 03

  Wait, a guy got you tickets to a game and your boss told you, you couldn't take it and won't tell you why? And no, you're not, you know, you're not the crazy one.

• 3:02:47Speaker 00

  Head on a swivel. All right, Zach, finish this off.

• 3:02:50Speaker 04

  Uh, Fyre Fest this week, did have a pretty awesome week. We just got back yesterday.

• 3:02:54Speaker 00

  Oh, hell yeah. Oh yeah. We talked about it at the beginning, your trip to New York.

• 3:02:57Speaker 04

  That is true. We, all right. We did talk about it in the beginning. Never mind. Uh, so Fyre Fest this week is just going to have to be. Well, you can say the one part. Say the one part. Say the one part. Yep. My Fyre Fest this week is probably that I, we got, went to New York. It was a lot of fun. I got to experience a lot of new things.

• 3:03:10Speaker 05

  The first time, one of those things being, uh, uh, the corner store situation.

• 3:03:15Speaker 00

  Uh, bodegas.

• 3:03:15Speaker 05

  Yes, which was awesome.

• 3:03:17Speaker 03

  Only place in the world that you can buy a snack.

• 3:03:19Speaker 05

  You get it the off.

• 3:03:20Speaker 00

  No, not just snack, BFT, let's be honest, it's a snack and also toilet paper.

• 3:03:25Speaker 05

  Yeah, but it's.

• 3:03:26Speaker 03

  And there's a cat too.

• 3:03:27Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 3:03:27Speaker 03

  Forget the, the cat.

• 3:03:28Speaker 00

  A cat who's sitting inside of where the, like, the, the candy used to be.

• 3:03:31Speaker 05

  Pet the cat, get the shrimp pasta.

• 3:03:33Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 3:03:34Speaker 05

  Then get a Pop-Tarts, which is just like, they should, all right, anyway, it's not important. So, yeah, it was.

• 3:03:38Speaker 00

  No, no, keep going, that's good.

• 3:03:39Speaker 05

  It was very good, it was delicious. My mistake was getting too excited. I found another one after we went, trusted the pizza, pizza put me in a destructive situation.

• 3:03:48Speaker 00

  Oh, no.

• 3:03:49Speaker 05

  The pizza, yeah.

• 3:03:50Speaker 00

  Not the shrimp pasta?

• 3:03:51Speaker 05

  No, I didn't get that, I should have just got that.

• 3:03:53Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 3:03:53Speaker 05

  I went to a different place.

• 3:03:54Speaker 03

  Safe for choice?

• 3:03:54Speaker 05

  Got the pizza, apparently you don't, not supposed to get the pizza. I thought it was gonna be a good move and then I was just in the puke zone for about thirty-six hours.

• 3:04:01Speaker 00

  Yeah, you, the pizza, you get the pizza from a pizza place, you get like a chopped cheese or a bagel or sandwich from the bodega.

• 3:04:08Speaker 05

  It was, look, beginner's mistake, rookie mistake.

• 3:04:10Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's. That's on memes.

• 3:04:12Speaker 04

  We went and got, well, no, the, the pizza was on Zach. We went, we went to the bodega, we got, I, I got him a, a sampling of a lot of different things, we got bacon, egg and cheese, chicken cutlet sandwich, Jamaican beef patty. A lot of different things for Zach to try here. We ate our food, we ate together, we all go back up to our respective rooms.

• 3:04:33Speaker 00

  No.

• 3:04:33Speaker 04

  Zach goes back down solo mission.

• 3:04:36Speaker 00

  No.

• 3:04:36Speaker 04

  And that's when he got the pizza.

• 3:04:38Speaker 00

  There's pizza places everywhere in New York.

• 3:04:40Speaker 05

  I tried to go back to the same place we went to, but I guess I went left, should have went right, found a different location, looked very similar, it's like.

• 3:04:48Speaker 04

  You know, it's the, he ended up at the bodega right next to the New York office.

• 3:04:53Speaker 00

  Oh, no.

• 3:04:55Speaker 03

  Never had, never had the pizza there.

• 3:04:56Speaker 00

  Saw the biggest rat ever walking like across the, the, the food.

• 3:05:00Speaker 04

  You know, the one next to the, the five, the one next to the five guy.

• 3:05:03Speaker 00

  Yes, yes, yes, yes, like, it's like right across the street. Yeah, right where the, the guy who sell all the jerseys.

• 3:05:08Speaker 04

  Specifically did not bring him to that bodega, cause I know that's not a great bodega.

• 3:05:13Speaker 05

  Mm-hmm. I was legitimately in a, in a state of mind of could puke for roughly twenty-one hours.

• 3:05:17Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 3:05:18Speaker 05

  And I just knew I made the mistake, that was it, cause it was an awesome week, but that was tough.

• 3:05:22Speaker 03

  Did, did the pizza taste good?

• 3:05:24Speaker 05

  I, in the moment, it was delicious.

• 3:05:26Speaker 03

  I hear you.

• 3:05:26Speaker 05

  The second I finished it, not good.

• 3:05:28Speaker 03

  Yeah, there's a lot of stuff in the moment, and then afterwards, like, wow, I can't believe I just.

• 3:05:31Speaker 05

  Yeah, like, I did the gentleman's thing, I ate the pizza in the, like, you know, you get, if it's two queens, you go one side and then you sleep the, yeah.

• 3:05:37Speaker 00

  It's not getting food from a bodega, because everyone gets food from bodegas in New York, like, I had one right across the street from me, like, I'd get it all the time, it's. Pete, pizza, get, you get the pizza at the pizza place, it's New York.

• 3:05:49Speaker 04

  You get the sandwiches and the, you know, bacon, egg and cheese, anything else but the pizza.

• 3:05:54Speaker 00

  Yeah, the pizza is, there's pizza places everywhere.

• 3:05:57Speaker 05

  But, yeah, I mean, he had a chef coat on, it looked official.

• 3:05:59Speaker 03

  No, not, but not a pizza apron.

• 3:06:01Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 3:06:01Speaker 03

  There's a difference, the, the pizza at a bodega is strictly for ornamental purposes, it's just to, just to look at. What, what were we saying about the, the bed situation? Can we rewind a little bit?

• 3:06:11Speaker 04

  Situation made sense.

• 3:06:12Speaker 05

  Yeah, when, if it's two queens, you do all your, you do all your, like, daytime activities.

• 3:06:16Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah.

• 3:06:17Speaker 05

  I'd sleep the other.

• 3:06:17Speaker 00

  A shelf.

• 3:06:18Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 3:06:18Speaker 05

  Went down here.

• 3:06:19Speaker 00

  One's a shelf, yeah. Okay. You put, I put my luggage and I, I like throw out all my shit.

• 3:06:25Speaker 03

  So you put the pizza on the bed?

• 3:06:27Speaker 04

  And that. He ate the pizza on the one bed, slept on the other.

• 3:06:29Speaker 00

  Yeah, okay, yes.

• 3:06:29Speaker 05

  Yeah, that's the throwaway bed, and then I got in the business bed.

• 3:06:32Speaker 00

  There's a bed, there's a bed where you, you throw all your luggage and then you also lay in that bed with your shoes on.

• 3:06:38Speaker 05

  Actually, probably.

• 3:06:39Speaker 03

  Hank, no.

• 3:06:40Speaker 05

  There was a desk.

• 3:06:40Speaker 03

  The queen bed is an all-purpose desk.

• 3:06:42Speaker 00

  Yeah, no, that's, that's the bed you, you can lay down on that bed with your shoes on.

• 3:06:46Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 3:06:46Speaker 05

  Yeah, it's the outside bed.

• 3:06:47Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah, exactly.

• 3:06:50Speaker 03

  Yeah, that is like your, that is like your backyard, if you're in a hotel.

• 3:06:53Speaker 00

  Hmm, yeah, there's just, all my clothes are everywhere, and then I'll push my clothes over so that I can lay down with my shoes, cause like, you'll, you'll be on a trip and it'll be like, oh, let me run up to my room real quick, and then you just lay down on, with your shoes for ten minutes.

• 3:07:05Speaker 03

  Hmm.

• 3:07:07Speaker 05

  Other than that, great week, though.

• 3:07:08Speaker 00

  Okay, good job, actually no, bad job, well, good job surviving.

• 3:07:15Speaker 05

  Yeah, it's pretty awesome.

• 3:07:17Speaker 00

  It's, it's funny that he went, like, you guys, I actually am gonna put it back on Max and memes, you guys know how Zach operates, when he says he's done eating, he's not.

• 3:07:26Speaker 04

  Well, he's done eating in front of us.

• 3:07:28Speaker 00

  Yes, exactly, you need to have, you had to be like, hey, Zach, here's some instructions in case, not in case, when we, when we know that you're going to go get more food, here's some instructions.

• 3:07:38Speaker 04

  Mm-hmm, that's a good point.

• 3:07:39Speaker 05

  Well, I do, we told him to record it.

• 3:07:40Speaker 00

  Ah.

• 3:07:41Speaker 04

  He didn't record it, but also.

• 3:07:42Speaker 05

  Ah, I think he, I think he might.

• 3:07:44Speaker 04

  He, he might have.

• 3:07:44Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 3:07:45Speaker 04

  My favorite part of it, he, he forgot where the other bodega was, which was like, right next to our hotel.

• 3:07:49Speaker 00

  Ah, he went the wrong way.

• 3:07:51Speaker 05

  Yeah, left instead of right, we've all been there.

• 3:07:52Speaker 00

  Yeah, okay, uh, numbers.

• 3:07:55Speaker 04

  I think a fourteen.

• 3:07:56Speaker 05

  Ten, twenty-nine.

• 3:07:58Speaker 00

  Eighteen.

• 3:07:59Speaker 04

  Uh, twenty-three.

• 3:08:02Speaker 03

  Four.

• 3:08:03Speaker 00

  Forty-seven.

• 3:08:04Speaker 04

  Shane is now a Timberwolves fan.

• 3:08:06Speaker 03

  Fifteen.

• 3:08:07Speaker 04

  Left the Magic.

• 3:08:07Speaker 03

  And sixty-nine for Colton, he's sick.

• 3:08:09Speaker 00

  Well.

• 3:08:10Speaker 04

  No, no, no.

• 3:08:10Speaker 00

  Shane was also on the Magic because.

• 3:08:12Speaker 04

  To win, you gotta be.

• 3:08:13Speaker 00

  Yeah, you gotta be here to Colton, sorry, Shane was a Magic fan because they came in once and they gave him a sweatshirt.

• 3:08:18Speaker 03

  They gave him a sweatshirt, I didn't officially leave the Magic, they're, they're, west coast team, east coast team, go, go to.

• 3:08:24Speaker 04

  No, no, no, no, no.

• 3:08:25Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 3:08:25Speaker 04

  Go to war this season.

• 3:08:26Speaker 03

  For the Timberwolves.

• 3:08:27Speaker 00

  I think you, you can do.

• 3:08:28Speaker 03

  Not west coast, west.

• 3:08:29Speaker 00

  West Conference.

• 3:08:30Speaker 03

  Conference, yeah.

• 3:08:30Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 3:08:30Speaker 03

  They're, they're gonna duke it out this year for my, for my family, but Wolves and Magic.

• 3:08:35Speaker 00

  Oh, wow, do the Magic and Wolves know this is at stake?

• 3:08:37Speaker 04

  I don't, I don't think so, I watched the Magic last night, it didn't look like it.

• 3:08:40Speaker 00

  Holy shit.

• 3:08:42Speaker 04

  You're gonna have to tell A-Rod.

• 3:08:42Speaker 00

  We're gonna have to let both.

• 3:08:44Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 3:08:45Speaker 00

  Places know.

• 3:08:45Speaker 04

  And if any other teams wanna join.

• 3:08:47Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 3:08:47Speaker 00

  You're gonna make them nervous, though. Well, are you gonna put oh and six on your resume?

• 3:08:52Speaker 04

  I'm gonna have to have nothing going for.

• 3:08:53Speaker 00

  Die.

• 3:08:54Speaker 04

  Pick the wrong Sixers number.

• 3:08:55Speaker 00

  Seventy-eight.

• 3:08:56Speaker 04

  Oh, nevermind, I thought it was seventy-six, that's fine then.

• 3:09:01Speaker 05

  Ooh.

• 3:09:02Speaker 03

  You got shocked?

• 3:09:02Speaker 05

  Ooh.

• 3:09:05Speaker 03

  If you die, if the lottery ball machine kills you, is that?

• 3:09:08Speaker 00

  No, I think it's our stupid headphone things, it's just like, I need a hook.

• 3:09:13Speaker 04

  I feel like that's super lucky. That's how you die.

• 3:09:21Speaker 04

  Fourteen, come on, fourteen.

• 3:09:33Speaker 04

  No way.

• 3:09:34Speaker 03

  Ninety-five.

• 3:09:35Speaker 04

  I thought, I thought it was sixty-nine.

• 3:09:39Speaker 03

  Happy birthday to LeVar Ball, happy birthday to Nick Bosa, Doug Flutie, John Lackey, Pele, Weird Al. And then Saturday, happy birthday to Amon Ra St. Brown, Jalen Ramsey touchdown maybe?

• 3:09:55Speaker 05

  Ooh.

• 3:09:55Speaker 03

  Amon Ra St. Brown.

• 3:09:56Speaker 00

  Well, we already did it in the.

• 3:09:57Speaker 03

  We already did, and I selected.

• 3:09:59Speaker 00

  Oh, no, he's in the morning.

• 3:10:00Speaker 04

  Defensive touchdown, Jalen Ramsey.

• 3:10:02Speaker 03

  Defensive touchdown, Jalen Ramsey, happy birthday to YA Tittle, happy birthday to Eric Cosmer, happy birthday.

• 3:10:08Speaker 00

  Oh, Haas, is that today or tomorrow?

• 3:10:10Speaker 03

  That's Saturday.

• 3:10:10Speaker 00

  Oh, fuck, yeah, love Haas.

• 3:10:12Speaker 03

  Happy birthday, Jalen Brown, happy birthday to.

• 3:10:14Speaker 04

  Goat.

• 3:10:15Speaker 03

  Wayne Rooney, happy birthday to Drake. And then Sunday, happy birthday to, uh, Pat Friarmouth, Sean Tucker, uh, Chris Hansen, Juan Soto, Pedro Martinez, Xander Shoffley.

• 3:10:29Speaker 04

  Juan Soto, dope.

• 3:10:29Speaker 00

  This is too many.

• 3:10:30Speaker 03

  Pedro Martinez. Bob Knight, Pablo Picasso, Craig Robinson.

• 3:10:33Speaker 00

  Too many birthdays.

• 3:10:34Speaker 03

  Katy Perry. And memes, I have a question.

• 3:10:36Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 3:10:37Speaker 03

  Is it your sister's birthday on Saturday?

• 3:10:39Speaker 04

  I don't have a sister.

• 3:10:40Speaker 03

  Okay, good, I'm glad that I asked.

• 3:10:42Speaker 04

  Good question.

• 3:10:43Speaker 03

  Good question.

• 3:10:43Speaker 00

  Way to clear it up.

• 3:10:44Speaker 03

  Love you guys, so that's a no.

• 3:10:46Speaker 04

  It's a no.

• 3:10:49Speaker 04

  I got sent a fourteen-pound blowjob machine.

• 3:10:52Speaker 03

  We're leaving that in.

• 3:10:53Speaker 04

  What'd you say? You got sent a fourteen-pound blowjob machine?

• 3:10:58Speaker 03

  I got sent two.

• 3:10:59Speaker 04

  What do you mean you got sent them?

• 3:11:00Speaker 03

  I got, one's for you guys, you guys gotta split up time.