NFL Week 4, Fastest 2 Minutes, Patriots Big Win, Eagles Hit Rock Bottom, Bryce Young Is Elite Plus Who's Back Of The Week And MLB Playoffs

We start with Fastest 2 minutes then talk about every game Sunday (00:00:00-00:14:55) Colts 30, Commanders 13 (00:14:55-00:26:58) Patriots 29, Bills 26 (00:26:58-00:42:16) Cowboys 34, Texans 30 (00:42:16-00:50:11) Jags 22, Bengals 17 (00:50:11-01:02:09) Rams 24, Eagles 20 (01:02:09-01:20:27) Bears 23, Jets 12 (01:20:27-01:36:06) Packers 17, Bucs 14 (01:36:06-01:45:04) Ravens 24, Titans 18 (01:45:04-01:49:18) Giants 36, Cardinals 24 (01:49:18-01:56:06) Vikings 15, Dolphins 10 (01:56:06-02:02:03) 49ers 24, Broncos 14 (02:02:03-02:10:12) Seahawks 30, Chargers 23 (02:10:12-02:24:59) Chiefs 30, Raiders 27 (02:24:59-02:30:49) Panthers 32, Lions 26 (02:30:49-02:35:52) We then talk baseball playoffs and who's back of the week. You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or Netflix. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/pardon-my-take https://barstool.link/pardon-my-take

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  On today's Pardon My Take presented by DraftKings, we've got football. It's week four in the NFL. We're going to recap every game fastest two minutes. I think we finally have, for all the sickos and perverts out there, the Max they've been looking for the last week because he is threatening to retire from sports, which would then make him retire from his job. He's, he's facing that. It's been tough.

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  It might be retiring from caring about sport.

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  Yeah, we had a great Chiefs Raiders game, some awesome games, including actually Sunday Night Football where the Panthers look really good. And we're going to do it all who's back of the week, some baseball as well. What, what are you looking at me for Hank? You just looking at me?

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  The Patriots won as well.

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  I wasn't.

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  Oh.

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  We're going to point?

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  You're a point?

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  Nothing.

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  Welcome to Pardon My Take presented by DraftKings. The crown is yours. Today is Monday, October 5th, week four.

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  PFT. Did we have a game in London to start?

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  You're bloody right we did. We go to London where Marcus Bloody Mariota was burning the Colts at the stake, leading the redcoats on the attack against Les Bleus, putting a touching tribute to Big Ben. The clock, he ended up in a walking boot. Well, hey there, Marcus. You want to just slip your little cookies in me? Put those little Hawaiian feet inside me. Like the Fables on the beach. So in came the Greek Freak, Ethan Caliacmanis, who hit the defense with the spinacopa to move. Quentin Nelson had an obsession with his running back, shoving anyone to the ground who came near his Jonathan Taylor made. Meanwhile, Tyler Warren Zevon was a werewolf in London.

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  Arooohoo, little old trading guy mutilated late last week. The best play of the game came when the Caliac Maniac dropped back and a whoop and a whoop. And Brandon, I'm a cold man. Da da da da da da da. He was rumbling, bumbling, stumbling, big man. But it wasn't enough to stave off Indy coach Carly Ray Jepson Ursay. Hey, I just inherited you and this is crazy, but can I listen to Play calls maybe, who is in writing the notebook so that when our commanders fans lose our brains, it will be there to remind us of how bad we were on this day. Colts 30, commanders 13.

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  In Chicago, back stateside where Ben Johnson had a case of the quarterback controversy as people wondered all week whether it would be Keenum or Bajent. And when the Bears lined up for their first snap Sunday, coach said, why not both? It was ultimately Mike Tyson Bajent who played the rest of the game, telling the Jets defense, I'll fuck you till you love me. And if you don't love me, I'll just hand the ball off to Kyle. Now here's the Manung guy for 146 yards and two touchdowns. As for the Jets, gee, no means no. Please don't throw that pass into the dirt as they mustered 157 yards of offense on the day. Such a lackluster performance as head coach Aaron Glenn Quagmire's goodwill starting to

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  peter out as the Jets may be at their lowest and he may be looking for a new giggity very soon. Bears 23, Jets 12. In soggy Philadelphia, Max is on the scene.

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  We head over to Philadelphia where the Eagles defense and Rams offense were in a hand fight early, but it was Matthew Staff infection who was screaming mercy while throwing two early interceptions. Jake not so Smelly it was able to capitalize on the Rams turnover by kicking two early field goals.

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  Hold on a second, boom. Speaking of Smelly it, something really sticks in this booth. I'm really sorry, Keys, but I gotta go to the bathroom. Oh no, is it one? Oh, is it one or two, boom? It's a toofa, a kupa.

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  As he gets into the end zone for the second time right before the half.

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  But that's it for the Eagles offense because they fucking suck. No more puns. They just fucking suck in the second half and the Rams were able to do whatever the fuck they wanted in the fourth quarter to compete in the easiest comeback of all time. Fuck this. Fuck all of this. Rams 24, Eagles 20.

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  Thanks Max. In Buffalo where Hank is on the scene.

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  We head up to North Gillette, AKA Highmark Stadium, where the undefeated Super Bowl favorite Buffalo Bills take on the New England Patriots as everyone was sat in front of their TV, ready to watch Drake and Josh. In the first quarter, little Romeo Dobbs told Maxwell Harrison, you can't shout like me, ride like me, or pull dimes like me, as he came down in the end zone to get to the score and started for the Pats. James Dane Cook was sick of getting robbed of touchdowns by his brother Josh Allen, so he called his own number and took one to the crib for six. In the fourth quarter, Keon, I'm a cold man. I'm a cold

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  man. Scored what seemed to be the go ahead touchdown for the Bills, but Drake may connect it with Eftin. Oh my God, when Glenn watches this tape, he's gonna chisel to give the Patriots the lead and the win 29 26.

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  Thanks Hank. In Texas where the Stroud boys were standing back and standing by as CJ hoped to get his first win on the season, finding Nico Collin Kaepernick for two scores as he tried to bring America's team to their knees once and for all. But it was Dallas and their quarterback, Dak Prescott staff, creating the secondary perfectly and using his arms to find wide open receivers. The game was back and forth late, and even though it was a non emergencies, the Cowboys dialed 311 to CD. Lambert is the color of your energy, having us all say whoa, as he caught his 17th pass of the day. 17 passes, 17, 17th pass of the day for the game winning touchdown. Cowboys 34, Texans 30.

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  We go over to Cincinnati where it's fight or flight time for Burrow and Chase. Jamar Jamar Binks Chase left early. Misa had head turned around by face a mascot. Why me Italian? Hey, I'm a Star Wars in here. Weather Lawrence was making it rain touchdowns and penalty flags as Bashal Tooten Common played with Egypt on his shoulder and was hard to wrap up, leading the Bengals begging for their mummy as Burrow psychophagous stopped a couple of interceptions and took a few scarabey looking hits. But Brian Thomas, Uncle Junior had all the makings of a varsity athlete on the road, even if he goes down super easy when he's back in Florida. The marriage between the Jags coach and quarterback is a good

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  one, so it's time to cut the cake. They're Liam Cohen the distance. They're Cohen for speed. They're Cohen to London, Cohen to London for the next two weeks. And maybe, just maybe, they're Cohen, Cohen, back, back to Cali, Cali for the Super Bowl this year after a big win like this. Jags 22, Bengals 73.

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  Down to Tampa where the Bucks try to get their first win. Zach in Tampa. Jordan Courtney Love takes this Packers team to Nirvana early on with a pass to Matthew Golden Girls. While thanking fans in attendance for being a friend, he travels to the end zone and back again for a touchdown and six points. After some time, Jordan Loves decides to pay at the pump and hand off his savings to big Sean Tucker, who shouts from the backfield to the Bucks defensive line, I ain't fucking with you, you little stupid ass bitch. I ain't fucking with you. Charging into the end zone for an effortless score. In the second half, Jordan Love, the way you lied decides to stand there and watch me burn. But that's

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  all right because you love the way it hurts. Just gonna stand there and make me cry. But that's all right because I love the way you lie. I love the way you lie. As he passes to Tucker Minecraft, who keeps his focus on the football instead of rooftops, pent houses, and urban living with oceanfront views, resulting in another Packers touchdown. Seeking possible redemption, Jalen Stormy Daniel double D's, I mean doubles down on airing out the football to Kenneth Gain. Well, well, well, what do we have here? And a touchdown, that's what it is. It's a sad touchdown, a very sad touchdown. Summer, very sad. Packers 17, Tampa 14. Thanks Zach. We go down to the Bay Area and memes.

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  We find ourselves in the land of the 12th man where it is a classic battle of bird versus nature. Justin, throw a pick. Tonight he's gonna throw a pick. Take a sack. He keeps laying on his back. As Justin Bieber Herbert was seeing ghosts, but if it can't throw close to you, I'll settle for number 42, Drake Thomas, that is, on the other fucking team. Then we move to the second quarter where Justin Timberlake Herbert was look, was like looking in a mirror, a mirror staring back at the D. It couldn't get any clearer with five defenders inside of me as he got clearly fucked from all angles. The only spotlight came from Michael Keaton Mitchell, who looked elusive with the ball and his hand chasing waterfalls. I don't want.

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  Shane may have wrote some of these.

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  You gotta be stay in the pocket.

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  Stay in the pocket.

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  I don't want no scrubs, but all the scrubs are just playing on this fucking team. Don't run to the outside because all the tackles tied and they're getting and they're getting fucked by Amari. Seahawks 30, Chargers 23.

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  Thanks, Beams. In Las Vegas where we had the battle of the undefeated as the Chiefs took on the Raiders. It was a battle of the stars as running back Kennet Shocker was able to find any hole he wanted. Going for 177 and two scores and Brock bow, bow, Bower wheels caught six balls for 86 yards. Taekwon Jerry Thornton fucked the Raiders secondary like they were his student. He was a hot teacher, inappropriate. And Per Cousins was relaxed in the pocket as the teams traded scores. Flint, Flint Kubiak led into the fourth, but had us asking, what are you doing? After he took points off the board in a game that ended in a three point loss?

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  The Chiefs continue to dominate the AFC West, taking down the Raiders 30 to 27.

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  Standing on the corner, Jameis Winston in Hope Oak in such a fine sight to see. It's Marvin Harrison, his dad's got a gun, so we won't do any slander ring. Come on, neighbors, Cardinals are gay birds. Three touchdown throws from Jameis, suck it haters.

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  Okay, week four in the books. We still got one quarter left of Sunday night football, which we'll talk about at the end. Bryce Young looking great. Week four, boys, it was quite a week. Those days when we start in London and end late at night. Feels like we've been watching football for many, many hours. Also feels like this was the week of just way too many flags.

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  Yeah.

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  Too many injuries.

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  Yeah, a lot of injuries, a lot of like particularly gruesome injuries.

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  Yep, and we are now sitting here with, what do we have? Three teams left that are undefeated.

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  The Vikings.

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  The Vikings, the 49ers and the Chiefs. The Vikings, by the way, do you know that this is the 11th time they started undefeated in the Superbowl era?

• 14:41Speaker 02

  I did not know that.

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  Through four weeks.

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  No, I did not.

• 14:43Speaker 00

  11 times the Chiefs started, have started 4-0 nine times. The 49ers, seven times. If I had asked you that question, you would have been like, definitely the 49ers.

• 14:53Speaker 02

  Yeah, I was watching a video, I forget who, who put it together, but it was basically saying that the teams that are perfect through four weeks. It has like almost no statistical bearing on whether or not they're going to end up as like a top five or top 10 team.

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  Yeah.

• 15:06Speaker 02

  At the end of the year, once you get halfway through.

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  Yeah, the EPA video that, yeah.

• 15:10Speaker 02

  Yeah, the teams, the teams that are like usually towards the top, those are the ones that will usually stay towards the top.

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  Yep.

• 15:15Speaker 02

  But it's not like, I mean, there are some very good 4-0 teams right now.

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  Yeah, we also now have three quarterbacks with an active win streak, the longest active win streak of four games in a row. Patrick Mahomes, because they're 4-0, Brock Purdy, because they're 4-0. J.J. McCarthy actually has four wins in a row last time he played.

• 15:37Speaker 02

  How about that?

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  Yeah.

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  So good for him.

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  18, sorry, 18, 18. Uh, should we get into the games though? We've got a lot of games to get into. We start in London Colts 30, commanders 13, PFT. There was a moment.

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  Yeah.

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  Uh, in this game, I don't know if we're going to talk about the same moment. There was a moment though, in this game where I was like, I think maybe finally Roger Goodell will stop this experiment. It was when Daniel Jones, uh, well, he fumbled in the first possession. I, I didn't even get my TV on and I was like, oh, the commanders must have run back at kickoff. And then I looked back and I was like, oh, nope, Daniel Jones dump him. But the interception he threw, I think my exact tweet was like, he's just a doo doo quarterback. And I was like, I think maybe like that was the vibe of the game.

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  Yeah.

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  Uh, and Mariota gets hurt and it's just like, we gotta stop this. No more games in London.

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  So I, I actually thought the offense looked really good with Mariota running.

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  Yeah.

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  So I was excited. I was like, okay, yeah, this, this looks like a serviceable offense to me. Mariota looked like he was fast, like way faster than I'd seen him run in years. Um, and then, yeah, he got kind of rolled up on, I hear it might be the MCL. And then we don't really have a quarterback that has experience beyond him. Um, so we put in Ethan Kalikmanis.

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  Yeah.

• 16:47Speaker 02

  And.

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  The Greek freak.

• 16:48Speaker 02

  The Greek freak.

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  Who looks like you.

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  Ethan for you. I saw that I, I'd been, when we drafted him, I saw some pictures and I was like, I, I kind of see it when people are saying. Then I just got bombarded with pictures and it's very mean to Ethan to be comparing him to how I look. Um, but yeah, when I was, when I had short hair and no facial hair, he looks a lot like I did.

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  When you had short hair.

• 17:11Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 17:12Speaker 05

  What's up? When you had short hair.

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  Well, you, yeah, what you need to do, PFT is you need to be like, a lot of people have been saying, I look like one of the white backup quarterbacks on, on the commanders.

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  Yeah, Sam Hartman.

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  Dude, Sam Hartman like popped into the screen for one minute and I was just like, get out of here, dude. This is too much.

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  From now on, when somebody says the hot white quarterback on the commanders, I'm thinking Ethan all the way.

• 17:32Speaker 00

  For sure.

• 17:32Speaker 02

  Uh, and you know what? He was fun too.

• 17:34Speaker 00

  He was.

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  I, I said in the preseason, he, he's got a little Kirk Cousins in him. Uh, but he's actually less risk averse than Kirk ever was. So he came in and since he had never gotten any reps at all with our ones or twos really, he just started bombing it.

• 17:49Speaker 00

  Yeah.

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  He just thought to himself, well, I've got Stefan Diggs and I've got Antonio Williams and I, I've got Traylon Burks who's taller than everybody. So I'm just going to throw the ball as far as I can, as high as I can. And it kind of worked for a little bit.

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  Yeah, you like, he came in, he threw a pick and then he threw a 47 yard bomb. You're like, this is going to be fun.

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  Yeah, he's, and he is, I would say he is a fun, as far as rookie seventh round quarterbacks go, he's probably the best of all time. I can't think of any other seventh round quarterbacks that worked out. But, uh, he, uh, I don't think he's going to be the quarterback next week. I feel like Jaden's coming back.

• 18:19Speaker 00

  Didn't Jay Glazer say that? Yeah.

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  Jay Glazer said he's, he's going to try to come back and, um, yeah, listen, this game was going to be over no matter what. After Marcus went out, uh, the offense looked completely different. I wish the spin move, the spinic opena was the best spin move that I've ever seen in my entire life.

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  Yeah.

• 18:35Speaker 02

  A lot of guys wait until the defender is about to tackle.

• 18:37Speaker 00

  He got dizzy.

• 18:38Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 18:39Speaker 00

  Like that was, he spun so hard, he got dizzy.

• 18:40Speaker 02

  Yeah, a lot of guys wait till the defender's like close to you, but if you spin earlier, you might make them dizzy.

• 18:45Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 18:46Speaker 02

  Which is what he was going for.

• 18:47Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 18:47Speaker 02

  And I, here's the next wrinkle that's coming on this. He might hit him with the fake spin move.

• 18:53Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 18:53Speaker 02

  Take two more steps and then the real spin.

• 18:55Speaker 00

  I think he might do a double spin.

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  He.

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  Cause he started so early, he could have double spin.

• 18:59Speaker 03

  The spin move worked.

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  Yeah.

• 19:01Speaker 03

  Yeah. Like the defender could have got.

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  He just, he just.

• 19:04Speaker 03

  He could have gotten him earlier than what he did, but he was like, what the hell did that guy just do? And he's like, oh, wait, no, I got a tackle.

• 19:08Speaker 00

  He just hit the button too quick. That's all it was.

• 19:11Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 19:12Speaker 00

  He just mashed the button a little too fast.

• 19:13Speaker 02

  A little too fast. We've all done that before. Uh, yeah, the, the game was going to be over no matter what, once Marcus went out, but I very, I very rarely complain about the refs. You know me.

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  Yeah.

• 19:23Speaker 02

  I'm not an excuse guy.

• 19:24Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 19:26Speaker 02

  The refs fucking suck today.

• 19:28Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 19:28Speaker 02

  They were really, really bad.

• 19:29Speaker 00

  We have two incidents the NFL is actually investigating too.

• 19:32Speaker 02

  These refs, like I'm almost to the point where as a, a second amendment guy, we need to arm ourselves. Like the, the players should arm themselves against overreach because you had two refs like getting up in players faces. And then you had this egregious display in the London game where, uh, they called a phantom offensive pass interference on Stefan Diggs. They called a, um, illegal shift and a hold on Antonio Williams, like 80 yard touchdown catch that he had.

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  Hmm.

• 20:03Speaker 02

  But they waited to throw the flag on the illegal shift until like three seconds into the play when he had the ball and was running. I still don't know who they called it on, uh, and then there was no, there was no hold on that play either. And then on the Stefan Diggs catch that I talked about, they waited until like after he caught the ball, took six steps, got tackled. And then they threw a flag out. I, I don't know what was going on.

• 20:27Speaker 05

  Which is what happened to him last year.

• 20:28Speaker 02

  It's, it sucks. I remember that. Yeah.

• 20:30Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 20:30Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's bullshit.

• 20:31Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 20:32Speaker 02

  And then, and then they had, uh, there was a pass interference against Traylon Burks on what would have been like a 60 yard completion from the, the Greek cannon. And, uh, they threw a flag accurately called pass interference and then they got together and said, there's no foul on the play.

• 20:47Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 20:47Speaker 02

  So Dan Quinn, you gotta, I want to hear Dan Quinn talking like I'm talking right now and take a fine for the boys because that was dirty. It was disgusting.

• 20:55Speaker 00

  Get kicked out of the game.

• 20:55Speaker 02

  Get kicked out of the game. Do something like that.

• 20:57Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 20:57Speaker 02

  We would have lost anyways probably, but I'm still going to take this time to complain about the officiating.

• 21:01Speaker 00

  Okay, so, uh, how are you feeling overall being one and three? That London game sucks, man.

• 21:07Speaker 02

  It sucks, but also it's.

• 21:11Speaker 02

  It's not as bad when you lose in that game because

• 21:14Speaker 00

  You forget about it?

• 21:14Speaker 02

  Yeah, most people don't watch it. So like by the second half of the earlier slated games today, I kind of forgot.

• 21:22Speaker 00

  It's like losing in the in like the noon window of the first, the first Thursday of March Madness?

• 21:27Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 21:27Speaker 00

  And by by like Friday, everyone's like, wait, you were in the tournament?

• 21:30Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 21:30Speaker 00

  I don't even remember.

• 21:31Speaker 02

  Yeah. So I, I, I kind of moved on from it. And I think what really hurts is that I, the reason I moved on from it so quickly is because I think I'm, I'm just about in danger of moving on from the season.

• 21:42Speaker 00

  Hmm. You gotta hold on for a little.

• 21:44Speaker 02

  But I gotta, I gotta hold on because

• 21:45Speaker 00

  Jayden's coming back next week.

• 21:46Speaker 02

  Yeah, we got the G men. They're leading the division. Jayden's back next week.

• 21:50Speaker 00

  Oh, you have to do that to your boy Jameis?

• 21:52Speaker 02

  Got to do it to Jameis. I hope it's, I hope against nine, 2.0.

• 21:56Speaker 00

  No, dude, Jameis keep, keeping his job.

• 21:58Speaker 02

  But

• 21:58Speaker 00

  Old Jameis is back.

• 21:59Speaker 02

  I say something nice about the commanders this week. I thought that our defense played well enough to win that football game. Our defense looked really good in the first half, and then we just, we kept giving them really, really short fields and there was nothing that we could do. But I think the defense is coming together really nicely and that that's a, a good surprise considering how dog shit we've been on that side of the ball for the last, it feels like five or six years. But

• 22:24Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 22:24Speaker 02

  That defense, I, I think that Deronte Jones is, is doing a great job. So, you know, that's why I'm not giving up on the season just what, just yet with James or Jayden coming back. Um, and the defense getting better. So we'll see, we'll see what happens.

• 22:37Speaker 00

  Uh, all right. As for the Colts, they've kind of righted the ship a little bit. A start 0-2, now they're 2-2. Uh, I still don't know, I don't really trust Daniel Jones at all. He just feels like he just turns the ball over so, so much. Shane Steichen even was like asked about it. I think he had, yeah, seven total turnovers in four games. He said, I think he's done some really good things and then some things we need to clean up. That's putting it nicely. Jonathan Taylor remains, uh, one of the best backs in the league and he just has to be their workhorse, which he was again. He now has the most rushing yards in, uh, international game history. So that's kind of cool.

• 23:13Speaker 02

  Yeah, he, he's

• 23:14Speaker 00

  Slime for that or something.

• 23:16Speaker 02

  Him and Sauce Gardner overseas merchants.

• 23:18Speaker 00

  Well, yeah, Sauce Gardner had a tough day.

• 23:20Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 23:20Speaker 00

  He was getting cooked. Uh, Jonathan Taylor also smart enough to, to, to drink the tea, not the beer.

• 23:27Speaker 02

  You put the pinky up.

• 23:28Speaker 00

  Yeah, he put the pinky up. Uh, by, by the way, memes, the Sauce Gardner trade, like, maybe traded the year or traded, traded the decade.

• 23:36Speaker 03

  One of the greatest trades all time.

• 23:37Speaker 00

  Yeah, he is. He does not look like the same guy. And it's pretty apparent he got cooked a couple of times. But yeah, the, I think the Colts, I, I'm not ready to say the Colts are good, but at least they've gotten back to 500 and I don't really understand, uh, what Mrs. Ursay, all due respect, is doing on the sideline because she's now like going up and asking questions.

• 23:57Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah.

• 23:58Speaker 00

  It's getting a little, it feels a little, little much.

• 24:01Speaker 02

  It was, it was pretty in your face today.

• 24:02Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 24:03Speaker 02

  I think

• 24:03Speaker 00

  Say, Hank.

• 24:04Speaker 05

  It's him to her and Jerry Jones.

• 24:06Speaker 00

  Joe Jones is not asking questions on the sideline.

• 24:08Speaker 05

  No?

• 24:09Speaker 00

  No, he's usually in a suite.

• 24:11Speaker 05

  Arthur Blank?

• 24:12Speaker 00

  Arthur Blank comes down at the end of the game. I agree. Uh, why are you calling me a misogynist? No. Okay.

• 24:21Speaker 03

  The thing is, she's You've been calling everyone misogynist.

• 24:23Speaker 02

  She's always done this though.

• 24:24Speaker 05

  Me?

• 24:25Speaker 02

  Like this is her.

• 24:25Speaker 03

  No, him. Oh.

• 24:26Speaker 02

  This is her thing that she does and she doesn't

• 24:29Speaker 03

  Toxic masculinity.

• 24:29Speaker 02

  She's asking questions to like learn about the process.

• 24:32Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 24:32Speaker 02

  But she's been doing this for like 10 years.

• 24:35Speaker 00

  You know, she, but it was weird because I think maybe it's just they're showing her more. That's really all it comes down to. So she's been doing the same thing.

• 24:42Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 24:42Speaker 00

  But now that they're showing her more, when she, I think there was a moment where she did ask someone a question in the middle of the game. It's like, I don't, I have no idea how the sideline works.

• 24:50Speaker 02

  Like I, I think we talked about this on maybe even last Monday's show, but it does seem that she's getting closer to the

• 24:55Speaker 00

  Right. That's what I'm saying.

• 24:56Speaker 02

  Like physically closer

• 24:57Speaker 00

  Inching closer to the guys. Yeah.

• 24:59Speaker 02

  And I think that question might've been from pregame.

• 25:02Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 25:02Speaker 02

  I don't think that was, I don't think that was during the game. Yeah.

• 25:04Speaker 00

  They fooled us. All right. So you know what, Ms. Ursay? Do what you gotta do.

• 25:08Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 25:08Speaker 00

  Girl, go on with your bad self.

• 25:11Speaker 00

  But she is getting closer, which actually, listen, if the team, I think that, that how she should operate and, and I'm not trying to tell her how to do her job, but as she, as it is, if the team's doing poorly, she should basically get closer and closer till she's standing right behind Shane Steichen.

• 25:25Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 25:25Speaker 00

  And then if they're winning, maybe back off.

• 25:28Speaker 02

  Mm hmm.

• 25:28Speaker 00

  That's really what it should be. She should be Shane Steichen's holdback guy when, when they're on a losing streak.

• 25:34Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's, it's always fun when the owner is in the shot as the same, as the head coach, if they're losing the game.

• 25:39Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 25:39Speaker 02

  That's always good. Um, Ethan is the only quarterback this year who has attempted six or more passes, 30 plus yards downfield in a game.

• 25:48Speaker 00

  Whoa.

• 25:48Speaker 02

  So

• 25:49Speaker 00

  Good for him.

• 25:49Speaker 02

  If he does come back in, at least we have a fun backup quarterback.

• 25:53Speaker 00

  Yeah. Very fun. Very fun.

• 25:55Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 25:56Speaker 00

  Okay. Should we go stateside?

• 25:58Speaker 02

  Yeah. Hank, did you have anything in this game? You were asking me some questions earlier, so I didn't know if you had anything.

• 26:03Speaker 00

  Do you have some questions, Hank?

• 26:05Speaker 05

  No, I was just saying it was probably exciting for you to watch, you know, your QB of the future. Like obviously he's a rookie, but it's like, it's exciting, it's something to get excited about.

• 26:13Speaker 02

  Yeah, I think he, I think he is a backup QB of the future.

• 26:16Speaker 00

  They're trying to push Jayden out.

• 26:17Speaker 02

  For sure.

• 26:18Speaker 05

  I think Jayden, whatever's going on in his elbow is just pushing him itself out every time he plays.

• 26:24Speaker 02

  You're saying there's, there's just, there's something about Ethan that you trust?

• 26:29Speaker 05

  No, he just, he

• 26:30Speaker 02

  Sounds a little bit racist.

• 26:32Speaker 05

  No, no, no, he's just, he can, he's on the field. He's on the field.

• 26:35Speaker 02

  Sounds racist.

• 26:36Speaker 05

  He's, he's on the field. Jayden can't stay on the field. Of, at like, so your quarterback, the future is going to need to be, you know,

• 26:43Speaker 02

  On the field.

• 26:43Speaker 00

  Playing.

• 26:44Speaker 02

  That's one thing I'm going to pass that along to Adam Peters for the next time he scouts a QB. Should be on the field.

• 26:50Speaker 05

  Well, yeah, the pictures, they were, those pictures were out there.

• 26:54Speaker 00

  Which ones?

• 26:54Speaker 05

  Of his elbow.

• 26:55Speaker 00

  Oh, before the draft, you mean?

• 26:56Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 26:57Speaker 02

  Yeah. There's the other elbow though.

• 26:59Speaker 05

  But still, you know, symmetry.

• 27:01Speaker 02

  Body symmetry.

• 27:02Speaker 00

  Yeah, body symmetry. That's why everyone's attracted to Denzel Washington.

• 27:05Speaker 02

  He's going to be back. He's going to be back and he's never going to get hurt again next week and, uh, you'll see Hank.

• 27:10Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 27:10Speaker 02

  You'll see.

• 27:10Speaker 00

  You'll see. Max, yeah. Did you know Denzel Washington's face is perfectly symmetrical? That's why he's so good looking.

• 27:17Speaker 03

  Didn't know that.

• 27:18Speaker 00

  Yeah. All of us mere mortals have just like, you know, one eye smaller than the other.

• 27:23Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 27:24Speaker 05

  It's like when you, you turn your phone on selfie mode, you're like, whoa.

• 27:27Speaker 00

  Yeah, you're like, gross. Denzel turns around, he's like, damn, I am perfect.

• 27:31Speaker 02

  Ethan has a perfectly symmetrical face too. I think number one of the league.

• 27:38Speaker 05

  Nice.

• 27:39Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 27:40Speaker 05

  That's exciting.

• 27:41Speaker 02

  Very exciting.

• 27:41Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 27:42Speaker 02

  Really good looking quarterback.

• 27:43Speaker 00

  Really good looking quarterback. Should probably grow his hair out.

• 27:46Speaker 02

  Nah, he looked trashy.

• 27:48Speaker 00

  Uh, okay. Hank?

• 27:49Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 27:50Speaker 00

  Patriots 29, Bills 26. You got a little, you got a little pep in your step.

• 27:56Speaker 05

  I didn't want to get

• 27:56Speaker 00

  Not doom and gloom.

• 27:57Speaker 05

  No.

• 27:58Speaker 00

  It was a great game. Great game. Drake May, he might be back because he's like, that was a hell of a drive that he takes him down the field for the winning score. Efton Chisholm, what a catch.

• 28:10Speaker 05

  Yeah. I mean, Matt Collins got hurt. AJ Brown's already hurt. It was like, we were joking, like Efton Chisholm wide receiver one and, and sure enough.

• 28:16Speaker 00

  He's wide receiver one.

• 28:17Speaker 05

  One handed catch, Drake May scrambling, third down, third and six, I think it was.

• 28:22Speaker 00

  And that's third and seven.

• 28:24Speaker 05

  Or no, it was, we can get the, well, third and five, P2 was in the, in the cave being like, if you look at the yardage, it's actually third and six.

• 28:31Speaker 02

  It was listed at third and five, unfortunately.

• 28:33Speaker 05

  Through a touchdown, Efton Chisholm one handed catch, snagged it down, P2 just, that was third and five, that was third and five.

• 28:39Speaker 02

  I don't think that's how it went. I think, I think Tate said that. Uh, but yeah, no, there was one great play he made on third and five, one great play that he made on third and seven today. So, um, yeah, I mean, listen, Drake May played really, really good today. I'll even say that the interception that he had, not his fault.

• 28:54Speaker 05

  No, not at all.

• 28:55Speaker 02

  Not his fault. I would, I would love to say

• 28:57Speaker 00

  The one where the guy fell on the ball and it popped up?

• 28:59Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 29:00Speaker 05

  It wasn't a great throw, but it

• 29:02Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah. Good point.

• 29:02Speaker 05

  It shouldn't have been an interception.

• 29:04Speaker 02

  We gotta, if it was a better throw.

• 29:05Speaker 00

  Tape disciplined. We gotta practice tape discipline.

• 29:07Speaker 02

  So I can't comment on it until I've studied people who study the tape because I don't watch it myself. Uh, but typically you want your receiver to catch it in stride. So that they can what?

• 29:18Speaker 00

  He's still running.

• 29:19Speaker 05

  Keep, keep running. Yeah.

• 29:20Speaker 02

  Yeah. So if you dive, then it, that's the only way that the ball would be able to get flipped out like that.

• 29:25Speaker 00

  Mm hmm.

• 29:25Speaker 05

  Yeah, no, not a great throw. And then

• 29:27Speaker 02

  We're still not, I, I will not

• 29:28Speaker 05

  The fumble, there was a clear miss, hands to the face on the offensive lineman. That's like what caused the fumble. So

• 29:33Speaker 00

  Oh, it caused that?

• 29:34Speaker 02

  We're going to complain about officiating now?

• 29:36Speaker 05

  No, I'm just, I'm, I'm, I'm sorry. I'm looking past that. It is what it is. It felt like, you know, we were getting bad turnover luck again. He came out slow in the second half too. There was a couple of like three and out drives where it's like, we gotta get something going. Was getting nothing going. But he came back in the fourth quarter, scrambled well, hit guys we needed to hit them, fourth, converted on fourth downs. It was, it was awesome. Romeo Dobbs scored twice. It was, it was a, it was a great game and we just own the Bills. We own, we own Highmark Stadium. And that's our stadium.

• 30:08Speaker 00

  That's your stadium.

• 30:08Speaker 05

  Yeah, we have as many wins there as the Bills do.

• 30:11Speaker 02

  That is true.

• 30:12Speaker 05

  And infinity less losses.

• 30:16Speaker 02

  That's

• 30:17Speaker 00

  Also not true. The first, the first stat was not true. They're, they're two and one there. You're one and O. They've won two games there.

• 30:25Speaker 05

  Got it. Almost as many.

• 30:27Speaker 00

  Almost as many wins.

• 30:28Speaker 02

  But you have infinity less losses.

• 30:30Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 30:30Speaker 00

  Infinity less losses is fact

• 30:32Speaker 02

  Which is pretty impressive.

• 30:33Speaker 00

  I, listen, the, for the Bills side of it, the Bills defense is, is in trouble. They, they, they do not look good. And then, I mean, Josh threw a meatball sub at the end of the game. He shouldn't have thrown that ball.

• 30:43Speaker 05

  That was a hero ball.

• 30:44Speaker 00

  You don't, you, you're just trying to get three points. You're trying to go to overtime.

• 30:47Speaker 05

  Second down.

• 30:48Speaker 00

  It didn't make sense. There was two guys covering him. That one made no sense. And it just felt like, uh, yeah, he was trying, he was trying to be the hero in that moment when, when all he needed to do was, you know, get 25 yards, uh, to, to tie the game with more than enough time left, a minute left. All three timeouts, just to completely, that felt like a throw with 10 seconds left in the game. And it's like, they just needed to get down the field a little bit more, like just even get down the field and take a shot to the end zone. But that throw made no sense. And, uh, was the, was the end of the game.

• 31:19Speaker 02

  Yeah, it seemed like that was a panic throw on his part. Um, there was also maybe the best throwaway I've ever seen from Josh.

• 31:25Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 31:26Speaker 02

  Behind the back.

• 31:26Speaker 05

  Intentional grounding.

• 31:27Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah.

• 31:27Speaker 02

  The behind the back. I think there were enough people around that they, they didn't call it.

• 31:31Speaker 05

  I, I think it was something

• 31:32Speaker 02

  I don't know how that didn't get picked off.

• 31:33Speaker 05

  It happened. It was so like, it was such a crazy, impressive throwaway that the refs didn't even like realize what was happening and didn't realize it was intentional grounding. I didn't realize it was intentional grounding. If you go back and look at it, it definitely was, but

• 31:49Speaker 00

  It was also Keon Coleman's like breakout game because DJ Moore got hurt again. Keon Coleman had, uh, like 100, what do you have? 116 yards? And he, he looked really good. But yeah, I would, I, it's like the, the Bills are kind of in the same spot they're always in where it's like the defense is just not, it doesn't feel like the defense is, uh, great. And then if Josh doesn't play perfect, they're going to be in trouble. But it was all, it was also like a very tough, hard fought win for the Patriots to come back in this game and win that game. And Drake May kind of silenced the, the haters for a minute.

• 32:21Speaker 02

  Mm hmm.

• 32:21Speaker 00

  Like the Glenn tape watchers of the world.

• 32:23Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 32:24Speaker 05

  Just everyone. But yeah, it was, it was, it was, it was good to get back. It was a must compete. Not only did we compete, we won.

• 32:29Speaker 02

  Mm hmm.

• 32:30Speaker 05

  Division win.

• 32:32Speaker 05

  Season's back on.

• 32:33Speaker 02

  Yeah, it was, it was, this was a classic Vrabel spot.

• 32:37Speaker 00

  Did you see Vrabel after in the post game in the locker room? He said, we're gonna fight until they cut our fucking hands off. Okay. I promise you until they fucking chop them off. We're gonna fucking fight and we're gonna fucking swing. Is he, is he like a pickpocketer in Thailand? Why, who's gonna cut off his hands? Why is his hands getting it cut off?

• 32:56Speaker 05

  He, it just, that's the fight game.

• 32:58Speaker 00

  That's just the fight game. Your hands eventually could get cut off.

• 33:01Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 33:01Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 33:02Speaker 02

  Well, Chisholm only needs one.

• 33:03Speaker 00

  It's true.

• 33:04Speaker 05

  Yeah. CJ Gardner Johnson too, which is all time.

• 33:07Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah.

• 33:08Speaker 05

  All time quote, all time cope.

• 33:09Speaker 00

  That is just who he is.

• 33:11Speaker 02

  He's never lost.

• 33:12Speaker 00

  He's never lost. He said afterwards about Chisholm, an elevated guy made a hell of a catch. Probably won't hear from him again respectfully. A practice squad player made a hell of a play. They ain't do shit better than us. Well, they did win the game.

• 33:24Speaker 05

  And Chisholm is not a practice squad guy.

• 33:26Speaker 00

  No, but that is also CJ Gardner Johnson. I feel like he has to say something crazy to get himself motivated. He's kind of wired that way.

• 33:35Speaker 05

  I loved it. Couldn't get enough.

• 33:37Speaker 00

  You're so happy.

• 33:38Speaker 05

  Yeah, it was a great win. It was, it was a great win. The start of the second half, it felt like. Here we go again, like there were, they, it was like two, three and outs. Maybe they got one, you know, first down conversion and then, and then punting. It was just like, we're, we got nothing going. Injuries piling up. Matt Collins went out. No one to throw to, didn't matter. Just a, an amazing throw and catch on that, on that play at the end of the game.

• 34:02Speaker 02

  Did we find out what happened to Matt Collins?

• 34:05Speaker 05

  It was non-contact. I don't know what, what came after the game, but it, it didn't look good. Like it was, it was non-contact injury and he had to like hop off on one foot.

• 34:14Speaker 00

  We, this also is like Josh Allen in the last.

• 34:17Speaker 05

  And AJ Brown, once he comes back.

• 34:18Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 34:19Speaker 05

  Buzzing.

• 34:20Speaker 00

  Josh Allen last two games has not been great. He says, uh, one pass touchdown, three interceptions. Uh, so four, four turnover, four turnovers total. And it does feel like that's, uh, you know, not like, not good enough, not that. It's just that they have to, they have to play kind, not perfect ball on offense, but they can't be giving the ball away. You can't be making those mistakes because their defense can't, isn't good enough to, to stop when, when that happens.

• 34:47Speaker 02

  Uh, Hank, did you notice anything different about the Patriots offense this week?

• 34:53Speaker 05

  No.

• 34:54Speaker 02

  They ran motion so much.

• 34:56Speaker 00

  So much.

• 34:57Speaker 02

  So like last week, I believe up until last week, they were in the bottom, like three or four teams in terms of motion rate before the snap. And then this week they said, no, we're gonna fix all that. And they had the highest motion rate that they've had in, I believe, three or four years. So like McDaniel's just went dummy with the motion.

• 35:17Speaker 00

  He did something different.

• 35:18Speaker 05

  Love that.

• 35:19Speaker 00

  Made some fixes. Do you feel bad at all, uh, knowing how much, uh, the people of Buffalo love us and we love the people of Buffalo? That you just keep doing this to them?

• 35:27Speaker 05

  No, zero percent.

• 35:29Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 35:29Speaker 05

  I love it as a matter of fact.

• 35:31Speaker 00

  Okay, you, you actually revel in it?

• 35:32Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 35:33Speaker 00

  You enjoy it so much?

• 35:33Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 35:34Speaker 00

  Okay, that's mean.

• 35:36Speaker 05

  It is what it is.

• 35:37Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 35:38Speaker 02

  They loved it.

• 35:38Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 35:38Speaker 02

  It's business. They loved it when Josh Allen had that perfect game against Mac Jones. Remember that in the playoffs?

• 35:45Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 35:47Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's, they, they had a perfect game.

• 35:48Speaker 00

  Would you say they're like, uh, the chief rival now?

• 35:53Speaker 00

  Or do you not have a rival? Is it still like Mahomes?

• 35:57Speaker 05

  Seahawks.

• 35:58Speaker 00

  It's the Seahawks, revenge.

• 36:02Speaker 00

  The Seahawks are your number one rival.

• 36:05Speaker 05

  Mahomes too. Mahomes, cause Mahomes is like, although the, the Brady stuff now is kind of weird. Uh.

• 36:11Speaker 00

  Wait, what?

• 36:12Speaker 05

  It's just like, I think, things have gotten weird in like the.

• 36:15Speaker 02

  I think your number one rival might be Tom Brady.

• 36:18Speaker 05

  No, no, it's not, but it's like, I, I, no, I, I love Tom Brady. I die for Tom Brady, but I don't, I'm now just, I'm focused on Drake May and Drake May's legacy. For a while there, it was like, I really didn't want Mahomes to win because I didn't want. Him to, you know, climb up Brady's.

• 36:35Speaker 05

  Goat status, but now it's like, I just want Drake May to get there.

• 36:40Speaker 05

  But yeah, it's probably Mahomes, Josh Allen.

• 36:43Speaker 00

  It's a good win. Good win. Uh, anything else in the game? Drake May back?

• 36:48Speaker 05

  Back, all the way.

• 36:49Speaker 00

  Fully back.

• 36:49Speaker 05

  Yeah, win tober, win tober's on.

• 36:51Speaker 00

  Win tober.

• 36:52Speaker 02

  What about left over?

• 36:54Speaker 05

  Locked over as well. Win tober, locked over.

• 36:57Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 36:57Speaker 05

  Left over maybe.

• 36:58Speaker 00

  Okay. So all the way back.

• 37:00Speaker 02

  Or was it leftember?

• 37:03Speaker 05

  Locked over.

• 37:04Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 37:05Speaker 00

  All the way back, no problems.

• 37:07Speaker 05

  No problems.

• 37:08Speaker 02

  So you have next week.

• 37:08Speaker 00

  Are you worried about Glenn tape watch?

• 37:10Speaker 05

  Raiders, never have been, never will be. It's a, it's a.

• 37:13Speaker 00

  I don't know why.

• 37:14Speaker 05

  I'm already, I'm already, it's, it's already an overplayed bit. It's gonna be like nine minutes somehow next week. God doesn't know how to cut anything down.

• 37:22Speaker 02

  I actually saw it's, it's been three 57, uh, on the dot, the last two weeks.

• 37:27Speaker 00

  Wow.

• 37:27Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 37:28Speaker 00

  So nine minutes was just a lot.

• 37:29Speaker 05

  I just feel bad for Quags, but.

• 37:31Speaker 02

  Why, why is that?

• 37:33Speaker 05

  All whatever, whatever Glenn can't do himself, which is everything.

• 37:37Speaker 02

  I don't, I, it sounds like you would put Glenn up there and your chief rivals. And I don't know that he, I don't know that he'd say the same about you.

• 37:45Speaker 05

  He's not, it's like nothing he says, he's not, he's like, it's a.

• 37:48Speaker 02

  He doesn't even know who you are.

• 37:49Speaker 05

  I'm worried about football. This is like a parody, like it's, it's a, it's a brand of comedy that I like, I understand some people like it. I personally don't.

• 37:58Speaker 02

  Okay. All right.

• 37:59Speaker 05

  Like, it's like, but that's, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not knocking other people for enjoying it. It's like everyone to each their own.

• 38:05Speaker 00

  I happen to enjoy.

• 38:06Speaker 05

  Yeah, enjoy what you like. Like, I don't, like, I'm not gonna go out of my way to watch it, but like, some people will. And that's good for them.

• 38:12Speaker 02

  Yeah, some people.

• 38:13Speaker 05

  It's not a rivalry thing.

• 38:14Speaker 02

  Some people like comedies like The Hangover and some people like comedies like The Hangover three. And that's okay.

• 38:20Speaker 00

  You're, Glenn is your, Glenn is like Big Bang Theory to you? You're like, there's a lot of people who like it and watch it, but I don't understand it.

• 38:27Speaker 05

  Exactly.

• 38:27Speaker 02

  Okay, that's all right.

• 38:28Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 38:30Speaker 02

  I don't think Glenn gets you either.

• 38:31Speaker 00

  I've actually never watched an episode of Big Bang Theory.

• 38:33Speaker 02

  Neither have I. Or How I Met Your Mother.

• 38:36Speaker 00

  Super popular.

• 38:37Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 38:37Speaker 00

  Yeah, I never watched How I Met Your Mother either.

• 38:39Speaker 05

  Max watched it in the bath.

• 38:41Speaker 03

  You do? My favorite show.

• 38:43Speaker 00

  It's your favorite show?

• 38:44Speaker 05

  I always watch it in the bath.

• 38:45Speaker 03

  I watch it every single night before I go to bed.

• 38:47Speaker 04

  Mine too.

• 38:48Speaker 00

  What? Both of you, your favorite show?

• 38:51Speaker 04

  Not every, not in the bath, but.

• 38:53Speaker 03

  Some bath, bath is in.

• 38:55Speaker 02

  Sometimes in the bath.

• 38:56Speaker 03

  How I Met Your Mother is a, is a, I, I put on before I go to sleep every single night.

• 39:00Speaker 00

  Favorite show?

• 39:02Speaker 02

  What's, what's your favorite episode?

• 39:03Speaker 03

  It's like my most watched show. Favorite show maybe, may not be the right word, but it's my most watched show.

• 39:09Speaker 02

  So it's like your go-to for when you're trying to turn your brain off.

• 39:11Speaker 00

  Correct. It's like your pinky.

• 39:13Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 39:13Speaker 00

  Yeah. It's like, you know what's gonna happen? They're gonna eventually tell us how they met the mother.

• 39:19Speaker 05

  Isn't the ending, isn't that, doesn't, isn't how they met like suck?

• 39:22Speaker 04

  Yeah, that ending blows.

• 39:23Speaker 00

  Oh, no. And you can still watch it?

• 39:26Speaker 03

  The ending's fine.

• 39:28Speaker 00

  Sounds like Max, did you cry?

• 39:30Speaker 03

  No, I didn't cry. I knew, I knew that was, that's what the ending was gonna be.

• 39:34Speaker 00

  Was it just in a bar?

• 39:36Speaker 03

  No.

• 39:36Speaker 02

  No.

• 39:37Speaker 03

  It was just, the real show wasn't about. Spoiler alert.

• 39:41Speaker 05

  It was about the moms they met along the way.

• 39:44Speaker 03

  It was about, it wasn't about.

• 39:45Speaker 04

  The mom fucking dies.

• 39:46Speaker 03

  The mom dies. And it's about.

• 39:50Speaker 03

  Getting together with another girl and asking the, the, the kids for their permission, kind of.

• 39:57Speaker 04

  The entire show builds up to this one moment where he meets.

• 40:01Speaker 03

  How did we get here?

• 40:02Speaker 00

  I wanna hear this, I wanna hear this.

• 40:04Speaker 02

  Clearly both passionate about this show, which I love.

• 40:06Speaker 04

  Where he finally meets the mom.

• 40:08Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 40:08Speaker 04

  Okay. And she gets cancer and dies.

• 40:10Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 40:10Speaker 04

  And then.

• 40:11Speaker 03

  And then you, and then they asked the, they asked the kids, can I, can I get together with my, with my friend that you consider your aunt?

• 40:20Speaker 04

  That he met in episode one.

• 40:22Speaker 03

  Episode one.

• 40:22Speaker 04

  And he was on and on.

• 40:23Speaker 03

  The whole show is the romance between him and this friend.

• 40:26Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 40:27Speaker 03

  And then they finally tell you how he met the mother. But then they're done with the mother and go back to the friend.

• 40:32Speaker 00

  So the, How I Met Your Mother, the mother's never in it?

• 40:35Speaker 03

  No. The mother's in it for like half a season.

• 40:37Speaker 00

  But she's dead.

• 40:38Speaker 04

  And bits and pieces.

• 40:39Speaker 03

  She.

• 40:39Speaker 00

  Does she die in the first season?

• 40:41Speaker 04

  No.

• 40:41Speaker 03

  No, she dies.

• 40:42Speaker 04

  Last episode.

• 40:42Speaker 00

  The last episode she died.

• 40:44Speaker 03

  But it's all, it's all.

• 40:45Speaker 00

  Is it a.

• 40:46Speaker 03

  It's.

• 40:48Speaker 03

  How do I explain?

• 40:49Speaker 02

  Wait, wait, was the mother that ended up dying?

• 40:50Speaker 03

  How I Met Your Mother is.

• 40:51Speaker 02

  She friends with the.

• 40:52Speaker 03

  Is Bob Saget telling the story. He's telling his children the, the story of how he met their mother. So it's his entire twenties and thirties. Up until he met the mother, but then they get to when he finally tells his kids how, how they met the mother. So it gets to present time.

• 41:10Speaker 00

  And then they're like, oh, your mom died?

• 41:12Speaker 03

  By the way, no, the, the mom was always dead. So it's always telling the kids about how he met their mother that died.

• 41:19Speaker 04

  But you don't know that.

• 41:19Speaker 03

  Then when they get to the point where he met the mother, he asks the kids, can I marry, can I marry this other woman?

• 41:24Speaker 04

  Yeah, he sits him down, he's like, oh, it's a long story. Oh, and they're like, ha, ha, it plays and.

• 41:28Speaker 03

  It's really just a story of, of him and this other woman.

• 41:31Speaker 02

  Did he, did the mom, like the original mom, did she know the woman that would eventually raise her kids?

• 41:38Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah.

• 41:38Speaker 00

  So at the end.

• 41:40Speaker 03

  They, they like got.

• 41:42Speaker 02

  So this guy's, this guy's wife died and then he's like, I'm gonna marry her best friend.

• 41:46Speaker 03

  Yeah, uh, no, no, no, no, well, they were friends for.

• 41:48Speaker 00

  Isn't this what Hunter Biden did?

• 41:50Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 41:51Speaker 03

  I don't know anything about, I don't know anything about that.

• 41:53Speaker 00

  Wait, so at the end of the show, it's just him being like, and that's how I met your mother. Can I now fuck your aunt?

• 42:00Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 42:00Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 42:01Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 42:01Speaker 03

  Literally like, I'm pretty sure he says, he says like those exact words.

• 42:04Speaker 00

  Okay. All right.

• 42:06Speaker 02

  And we're supposed to be like, this is such a sweet show about the mom.

• 42:09Speaker 03

  No, it's supposed to be like, oh, they finally like.

• 42:12Speaker 02

  We finally got an answer to How I Met Your Mother.

• 42:15Speaker 03

  The aunt and.

• 42:16Speaker 00

  But how did he meet the mother?

• 42:18Speaker 03

  Uh, at, at the aunt's wedding.

• 42:20Speaker 04

  At a train station in the rain.

• 42:22Speaker 00

  Oh, well, those are two different answers.

• 42:25Speaker 04

  At the wedding.

• 42:26Speaker 03

  At the wedding.

• 42:26Speaker 02

  At a, the wedding happened at a train station.

• 42:28Speaker 00

  But so the aunt's married, but now she's, she got divorced to the.

• 42:32Speaker 03

  She got divorced.

• 42:32Speaker 04

  Dan was married to.

• 42:33Speaker 03

  She got divorced to Neil Patrick Harris.

• 42:35Speaker 00

  Got it. Okay.

• 42:37Speaker 04

  But how those shows are filmed, they filmed the first and last episode. Immediately, right away, like how it ends. So that's why you get to the end, you're like, wait, what the fuck is this?

• 42:48Speaker 00

  Ah.

• 42:48Speaker 04

  That's what it always was.

• 42:50Speaker 00

  Got it.

• 42:50Speaker 04

  You just don't know it as an audience.

• 42:51Speaker 02

  Got you. So they, they met while they were running a train.

• 42:54Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 42:55Speaker 02

  With the aunt.

• 42:56Speaker 03

  No, no, it was just, it happened to be at a train station.

• 42:59Speaker 00

  It was raining.

• 43:00Speaker 03

  She was the, the wedding singer, she was the wedding singer. The guitarist.

• 43:03Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 43:04Speaker 00

  God.

• 43:05Speaker 03

  Yeah, she was in the wedding band.

• 43:08Speaker 00

  All right, Cowboys 34, Texans 30.

• 43:12Speaker 02

  Drake Mays back.

• 43:13Speaker 00

  Drake Mays back. Uh, C D Lamb, the C D Lamb game, 17 catches, 189 yards and a touchdown. This game was awesome. Uh, unfortunately for the Texans, they're 0 and 4 and they just cannot time up their offense and their defense at the same time.

• 43:29Speaker 02

  At all, at all. Cause the offense, the offense looked pretty good. C J Stroud had a great game today.

• 43:33Speaker 00

  Nico Collins back. Yeah.

• 43:35Speaker 02

  Makes a big difference.

• 43:35Speaker 00

  Like C J Stroud, I know they lose this game. C J Stroud had the ball, uh, down 27, 23 with like six minutes left. He goes down the field 87 yards to score a touchdown. That should be enough for the Cowboys, uh, for, for the Texans defense to, to shut the door.

• 43:54Speaker 02

  Well.

• 43:55Speaker 00

  And it wasn't.

• 43:55Speaker 02

  It's that. And also at some point, the Texans need to figure out how to run the football.

• 44:01Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 44:02Speaker 02

  Cause they have, they have not been able to do that.

• 44:04Speaker 00

  No.

• 44:04Speaker 02

  If, the key is if you have a great defense like they, they should have in theory, it didn't look great today. But if you have a great defense, you can get away with having C J Stroud play average ball if you can run the football.

• 44:16Speaker 00

  But he didn't even play average. He played good today.

• 44:18Speaker 02

  And he played great today, but they still can't, the, the larger point is they had a lead. They were up 16 to six at halftime.

• 44:24Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 44:25Speaker 02

  If you run the football in the second half, you can eliminate a lot of those points and you can take about, but they've, they've consistently over the course of the last three years, they have not been able to run the football at all.

• 44:35Speaker 00

  They, and, and Dak got just like super hot. I mean, that, what were you laughing about Max?

• 44:41Speaker 03

  After Zach did his, after we cut the mic, Zach goes, I've only watched half of it. You just spoiled that for me.

• 44:49Speaker 00

  Zach. I didn't want to ruin the moment. You guys were going there, but like, yeah, the whole show's done.

• 44:55Speaker 00

  Tanked, absolutely tanked.

• 44:57Speaker 03

  I've been dying for five minutes.

• 45:00Speaker 02

  Wait Zach, what are your thoughts as somebody that hasn't watched the whole show, but was looking forward to it? What are your thoughts on the ending?

• 45:07Speaker 00

  I, I honestly kind of stupid. Oh, was that, you, we said spoiler, you should have left. I didn't want you, it was, it was going so well. You couldn't, you couldn't interrupt that. Yeah. That was pure idiot jazz. It really was. All right. Uh, you guys have thoughts on the, the, I mean, the Cowboys are, offense is electric. C D Lamb is just, he's so fucking good.

• 45:27Speaker 02

  17 catches is nuts.

• 45:29Speaker 00

  Nuts, nuts. And he had 11 catches for 140 yards and a touchdown in the second half alone. And, uh, the Cowboys broke their streak. They had, they had lost 30, 32 straight road games when trailing by double digits in the second half, which was the longest active streak of its kind in the NFL. I don't know. I mean, the Cowboys are dangerous. I think they can ever figure out their defense, which they really couldn't in this game because again, C J Stroud looked good and Nico Coll, Nico Coll, it basically comes down to if the Texans have Nico Collins on the field, their offense is, is now, I, I'm confident enough in C J Stroud that he's not going to be total ass. If he's not on the field, then I, you're going to have to win the game like 13, 10.

• 46:07Speaker 02

  The whole offense goes as far as him having a weapon.

• 46:10Speaker 00

  Yeah. Yeah. Uh, and they, yeah, now, now the Texans defense has to, to match it. Also I, C J Stroud said after the game, on last season's success means nothing now. Uh, he said, you have to be an iPhone. You have to upgrade every year. Doesn't that mean they'd get a new iPhone, like a new quarterback?

• 46:28Speaker 02

  You trade it out.

• 46:29Speaker 00

  Right.

• 46:30Speaker 02

  And what, is he talking about the software upgrade?

• 46:31Speaker 00

  I don't know, because I, like.

• 46:34Speaker 02

  That kills your battery.

• 46:34Speaker 00

  Right. And also like most people, like they'll have an iPhone. I usually have for a couple of years and then get a new one. Cause it's just like, it's so slow. So like they're basically CJ, like it's time for a new iPhone. If, if we're going with that analogy.

• 46:48Speaker 02

  I want my quarterback thinking about a Wii phone. Not the selfish bullshit.

• 46:52Speaker 00

  Yeah, exactly.

• 46:53Speaker 02

  He's a, yeah, the, if he has a weapon out there, he's going to be great. Um, if his defense steps up. And again, I haven't really seen the same level of like intimidation, ferociousness out of the defense that we saw like pretty much all last year.

• 47:08Speaker 00

  No, Kamari Lester, I think was the one who got picked on a lot today.

• 47:12Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 47:12Speaker 00

  I see these also, he's just so fucking good. And it's gotta, do you think it pisses off?

• 47:17Speaker 02

  I guess my point is if you're a great defense, like if you're going to be a great defense, like the Texans have had for the past two years, you should be able to figure out how to stop one guy from getting 17 catches for 189 yards.

• 47:29Speaker 00

  Agreed.

• 47:30Speaker 02

  Like great defenses don't typically allow that to happen.

• 47:33Speaker 00

  Especially when that guy has, uh, beads at the bottom of his hair, like he just got back from Jamaica. Do you see that?

• 47:38Speaker 02

  Yeah, you can, you won't lose him.

• 47:41Speaker 00

  That, do you think that pisses off? Like, like I'm getting beat by the guy with, with, with beads in his hair?

• 47:46Speaker 02

  The alternative is get beat by the guy with three mouthpieces.

• 47:48Speaker 00

  True.

• 47:49Speaker 02

  With George Pickens.

• 47:50Speaker 00

  True. George Pickens did have that awesome catch.

• 47:52Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 47:52Speaker 00

  That awesome, do you catch? I will say for Texans fans, um, I'm buying stock in the Texans now, right now. They're 0 and 4. They're plus 270 to make the playoffs right now. Their next six games are at the Titans. I think they're going to win that game. Okay. I think they're going to get their first win next weekend. Then they get the Jaguars at home, which is a massive game that if you can somehow find a way to win that and the Jaguars are going to get to next have been really, really good. But if you find a way to win that game, that's a divisional game. That's huge for morale, everything. Giants at home, which I think the Giants like,

• 48:29Speaker 00

  as nice as the three and one start has been for the Giants, that's a, that's a, a defense, a, a offense that the Texans defense should be able to contain. At the Chargers, which the Chargers might just be dead. We'll get to them. Like that's just a lifeless team. At the Browns Colts. Now Browns like are playing great ball. Colts two and two. I'm not saying any of these are gimmies. Maybe the Titans is a gimme. But I'm at least saying in the next six games, I can see there being a little bit of wins here where they can maybe get some momentum going. Because I, I do think this team is not just all of a sudden bad. I think they have a combination of again, not matching up. Who just scored?

• 49:10Speaker 02

  Not Amon Ra.

• 49:10Speaker 00

  Not Amon Ra, Laporta. They have a combination of not matching up their offense and defensive, uh, games at the same time. And also playing some pretty good teams. Like they've started the, the, the schedule against some pretty good teams.

• 49:22Speaker 02

  Yeah. Cowboys have an explosive offense for sure. I have a question for you, Big Cap.

• 49:27Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 49:27Speaker 02

  Is Brandon Aubrey washed?

• 49:29Speaker 00

  Well, he got one block today.

• 49:30Speaker 02

  He missed a 62 yarder that was blocked and he missed a 65 yarder today. Is this guy washed or what?

• 49:36Speaker 00

  He might be washed.

• 49:37Speaker 02

  Might be washed.

• 49:38Speaker 00

  Might not be giving up a first round pick for him anymore.

• 49:40Speaker 02

  Nope.

• 49:41Speaker 00

  But yeah, I think I'm buying my, I'm, I'm buying it in, uh, I would buy stock in Texans right now.

• 49:47Speaker 02

  I would be too. I would be too. I, I think that the, it's weird because their offense does look much improved, especially when they have Collins on the field.

• 49:53Speaker 00

  Yeah. I, I was.

• 49:54Speaker 02

  Learn how to run the football.

• 49:55Speaker 00

  I was, I was looking at various things. I think there's, uh, their over, under for wins right now is seven and a half, eight and a half would be juiced. Uh, you know, plus money. So just some things to think about, just some things to think about. And the Cowboys are, I feel like this was the launchpad for them to go on a little bit of a run because they get, uh, the Buccaneers on short rest, which that should be a win for the Cowboys. I would assume maybe a get right game for their defense. Uh, so I, I feel like the Cowboys are going to maybe rip off some wins here and their offense is just so, so good. I don't really know what else to say than like, I don't know how you contain the weapons that they have. Javante Williams looks great. I mean, floor noise is good too.

• 50:38Speaker 02

  Floor noise is good. They got Joey Porter, Jr.

• 50:41Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 50:41Speaker 02

  He played a little bit today. Um, yeah, this is just one of those games that I think no matter who the two, it was just going to end up be, being like a shootout where both teams abandon the run entirely and nobody can stop anybody. And it's just hold on to your nuts.

• 50:55Speaker 00

  Yeah. Which was crazy because it was a low scoring game where no one could do anything offensively in the first half.

• 51:00Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 51:01Speaker 00

  And then it just shootout broke out.

• 51:02Speaker 02

  Run the football Texans.

• 51:03Speaker 00

  All right. Uh, next up Jaguars 22 Bengals 17. This game was gross. It was gross. It was gross to watch. I don't mean that in like, uh, the Jaguars or Bengals are bad teams. There were so many penalties. There are 24 penalties for 233 yards, which at the point in the day, it was like, that's a lot. There was actually a game with way more, uh, later on in the day. But Hank, we had this game, we had the Jingles and, uh, we had the Jingles game on. It was so tough to watch. Every time they would get somewhere or a big play would happen, it would just be a flag and everyone would move backwards and be like, all right, well that's fun. This game lived between the 30 yard line.

• 51:42Speaker 00

  Yeah. And it was, and it came down to the Jaguars, uh, the Jaguars are a good team. They, they take the ball away. They're, so right now they are 10 takeaways in four games. 39 takeaways since the beginning of last year, which leads the league, uh, tied for, with the Bears. They can run the ball. Trevor Lawrence looks comfortable. All the things seem to be clicking. It did feel like this game was another winnable game for the Bengals. If Joe Burrow didn't throw just a horrific, horrific interception in the red zone.

• 52:12Speaker 02

  Yeah. So it was a bad pick. And also I, I believe that the Jaguars defense, it might be one of the best, if not the best in the red zone.

• 52:20Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 52:20Speaker 02

  They, they are like bend, but don't break. And yeah, Burrow had a.

• 52:23Speaker 00

  It was such a bad.

• 52:24Speaker 02

  Really bad interception, but the Bengals were driving at the end of the game. And if Chase Brown gets one more yard or like half more yard, then they, they were in a position where they very easily could have won, but great tackle by the, the Jaguars.

• 52:37Speaker 00

  He was.

• 52:37Speaker 02

  To bring him down.

• 52:38Speaker 00

  And I know Jamar Chase is out, but I just can't, I couldn't get over that. Joe Burrow, like he, he drove them all the way down the field. There's 14 minutes left in the game. It's a six point game. It's first and goal on the 10 yard line. Why are you trying to force a ball into a, a very, very tight window with two defenders there? I don't know. That just made no sense to me. And that felt like that was, that I, I know there was more game to be played, but man, that was a backbreaker of an interception, like absolute backbreaker. And I don't know, uh, Joe Burrow even said afterwards, they asked them about, so the run pass split for the Bengals.

• 53:16Speaker 02

  I like this quote.

• 53:17Speaker 00

  It was, uh, what was the exact split? It was, uh, hold on. Oh, 54 throws and 15 rushes. And Joe Burrows, uh, said, my response to that would be let's throw it more.

• 53:28Speaker 02

  Yeah. Cause I know we're great at it.

• 53:30Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 53:31Speaker 02

  And it is true because so he threw, he, he dropped back 54 times. They had 428 yards passing. And when you look at the results they got from running the football, uh, 1.5 yards per carry today. So he's right that the run game, either figure out how to fix the run game. Or if you have a dog shit rushing attack like that, just air it out more. I agree with them.

• 53:53Speaker 00

  And, and he did, he did mention in that quote, the, the longer part of that quote was like, we're pass blocking really well right now. So why not? Jamar Chase's concussion, that was, that was one of the most violent face masks you could possibly have because he got face masks and then smashed in the face.

• 54:08Speaker 02

  Yeah. The face mask, that was nasty.

• 54:10Speaker 00

  Which definitely changes the course of the game, a weapon like his. And the Bengals defense did their part again, like the Bengals defense has, has done a good job. And it's just, they've, they've, they've kind of blown the last two games with, with special teams errors and, and turnovers. That they could easily be a four and O team and they're sitting there two and two now. And the Jaguars are good. Jaguars are just good.

• 54:32Speaker 02

  In, in the, uh, this play did not count file, but it should have because it was awesome. You see Travis Hunter's interception that he had?

• 54:39Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 54:39Speaker 02

  And then, and then the juke move that he put on, I believe it was T Higgins.

• 54:42Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 54:42Speaker 02

  Trying to tackle him. The refs should have just picked up whatever flag was down and be like that, we need, for his Hall of Fame reel. Isn't that what Travis Kelsey said?

• 54:50Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 54:50Speaker 02

  Uh, we need to make sure that that play is included in his film when he gets inducted because watch this move that he put on T.

• 54:58Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 54:58Speaker 02

  Like snatched his soul. His entire soul is gone.

• 55:01Speaker 00

  And Travis Hunter seems to be like, he's trying to, he's starting to find it.

• 55:04Speaker 02

  Yeah. Because you're letting him.

• 55:05Speaker 00

  Just playing defense.

• 55:06Speaker 02

  Yeah. Play defense. You're great at defense.

• 55:08Speaker 00

  Liam Cohen's such a good coach though.

• 55:09Speaker 02

  He is. I was looking at the, uh, the futures odds for the Jaguars today.

• 55:14Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 55:14Speaker 02

  I was letting myself get loose with where I thought the Jaguars could end up.

• 55:17Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 55:18Speaker 02

  I believe they're 16 to one to win the Superbowl.

• 55:21Speaker 00

  Oh, okay.

• 55:23Speaker 02

  In that division, it looks like they have, well, they definitely have the inside track to, to winning that division.

• 55:29Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 55:29Speaker 02

  The Titans, the Colts, nope. The Texans.

• 55:33Speaker 00

  Wait, you don't think the Titans can come back?

• 55:35Speaker 02

  I don't think that there's.

• 55:36Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 55:37Speaker 02

  I don't think there's ever been a deeper ass that has been come out of than the one that the Titans are inside of right now.

• 55:43Speaker 00

  I'd agree.

• 55:44Speaker 02

  Um, so no, I don't.

• 55:46Speaker 00

  So.

• 55:46Speaker 02

  The Texans maybe, but I think that they'll.

• 55:48Speaker 00

  You're saying the Jags should have a home playoff game.

• 55:49Speaker 02

  Out of all the teams right now, in all the divisions, I would say that the Jags probably have the best inside track to getting home field advantage.

• 55:55Speaker 00

  Here's the only counterpoint I would say to the Jaguars winning the Superbowl. And I don't mean this in any offense Jaguars fans, because again, I think Liam Cohen's an unbelievable coach. The way Trevor Lawrence is playing, he's, he's a, a top tier quarterback right now. Just close your eyes.

• 56:13Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 56:14Speaker 00

  And picture the Jacksonville Jaguars going to Kansas City in January. And who's going to win that?

• 56:19Speaker 02

  That's why you got to get home field.

• 56:20Speaker 00

  That's, yeah. But that's, that would be the only thing that would scare me.

• 56:23Speaker 02

  Bring them to your pool.

• 56:24Speaker 00

  Just imagining the Jaguars uniforms in a cold.

• 56:27Speaker 02

  Wouldn't work.

• 56:27Speaker 00

  Kansas City environment.

• 56:29Speaker 02

  Would not work.

• 56:29Speaker 00

  Would scare the fuck out of me.

• 56:30Speaker 02

  Yeah. Would not work. I, and the other big blinking red warning sign that I see is when you actually said the words. The only thing I would say about the Jacksonville Jaguars not winning the Superbowl, it was like, yeah, well, I probably shouldn't have brought that up.

• 56:43Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 56:44Speaker 02

  Cause it's the Jacksonville Jaguars, but in terms of how good they're playing right now, how good their coach is and how good Trevor Lawrence is playing.

• 56:50Speaker 00

  Mm hmm.

• 56:51Speaker 02

  I, I don't think it's the craziest thing in the world to think that the Jaguars could at least do some damage in the playoffs.

• 56:57Speaker 00

  Yeah. No, I, I, I absolutely agree. I think that they, they have a coaching advantage against most, if not all teams with the way Liam Cohen's got them rolling. Uh, I also love Liam Cohen's quote about the first. So the first half, the, the Jaguars alone had 10 penalties for a hundred first half, uh, 100 yards. He said, never been a part of anything like that before in my life. I'm not going to say anything to get, uh, fined. That was just mental. It was mental.

• 57:23Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 57:23Speaker 00

  I like that. He kind, he kind of slipped into being a, uh, like a British hooligan for a second. It was mental.

• 57:29Speaker 02

  Or like, uh, Wayne's World. Yeah.

• 57:30Speaker 00

  It was mental stuff. But yeah, Jags good. Jags three and one. I, he's sprinkled on, what are they, what are they to win the, uh?

• 57:39Speaker 02

  I also looked at the AFC. I think they're six to one to win the AFC.

• 57:42Speaker 00

  Hmm. Hmm. I mean, this is a team that was really good last, what they went 13 games last year.

• 57:48Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 57:48Speaker 00

  So it's not like it's coming out of nowhere.

• 57:50Speaker 02

  No, they've been good for a while and, and I wouldn't put that like, they got, they got good Josh'd last year in the playoffs.

• 57:56Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 57:56Speaker 02

  In Jacksonville, like it very easily could have been the Jaguars winning that game.

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• 1:00:13Speaker 03

  Dan Campbell had one of the craziest fourth down go for it's of all time.

• 1:00:17Speaker 00

  Which one? The fourth and 20?

• 1:00:19Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:00:20Speaker 00

  20.

• 1:00:20Speaker 04

  Hook and ladder for.

• 1:00:22Speaker 00

  But also they were stuck in a weird score.

• 1:00:24Speaker 03

  No. If he kicks that field goal, it's a three-point game right now.

• 1:00:29Speaker 00

  Hmm. I can't do math while I'm, while I'm.

• 1:00:34Speaker 03

  A hundred percent.

• 1:00:35Speaker 00

  Podcasting.

• 1:00:35Speaker 05

  Add three points.

• 1:00:37Speaker 00

  I don't know, but what was the, what was the score when he did it?

• 1:00:40Speaker 03

  They were down 13.

• 1:00:41Speaker 05

  They just scored one touchdown.

• 1:00:42Speaker 00

  They're down 13.

• 1:00:43Speaker 04

  They're down 13, fourth and 20.

• 1:00:44Speaker 02

  And where?

• 1:00:45Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:00:45Speaker 04

  You gotta kick that field goal.

• 1:00:46Speaker 00

  The field was on. It was like the 30 yard line.

• 1:00:49Speaker 04

  Yeah. So they got it to the 10 yard line.

• 1:00:51Speaker 02

  I mean, it's fourth and 20.

• 1:00:52Speaker 04

  Four.

• 1:00:53Speaker 03

  That's what I'm saying.

• 1:00:54Speaker 00

  So I'll say the only thing when I was watching it that I was thinking that he might've been thinking is that they only are going to have two more, like that, they're only going to have one more.

• 1:01:01Speaker 03

  But now you gotta score a touchdown.

• 1:01:03Speaker 00

  I know, I know. I think he might've thought that they were only going to get one more possession with the way their defense is playing. Do you know what I mean? So they would need a touchdown and a touchdown. That's, I think what he would say, but yeah, I agree. That was crazy.

• 1:01:16Speaker 00

  You know what I'm saying? When you're down 13.

• 1:01:18Speaker 05

  But they, it was like fourth and four and they got a penalty and they got another penalty and he just, he just doubled down, tripled down.

• 1:01:25Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:01:26Speaker 05

  Once, once you get the holding call to go back from, you know.

• 1:01:29Speaker 00

  I saw it. It was the hook and ladder that was still five yards short.

• 1:01:33Speaker 05

  You gotta just take the field goal.

• 1:01:34Speaker 02

  He's done that shit before though. Remember that game? I think it was against the Cowboys a few years ago where they were like going for two instead of kicking extra point and they got backed up to like the 25 yard line and he was like, fuck it. We're still going for two.

• 1:01:46Speaker 03

  I mean, they're going to score here and it's not, and it's not going to matter.

• 1:01:48Speaker 00

  Also.

• 1:01:49Speaker 03

  I'm not like an idiot.

• 1:01:50Speaker 05

  Ted McMillan just made the, the, the best catch on the sideline.

• 1:01:52Speaker 00

  I saw that one. Ted's a fucking monster. Also, the Lions hook and ladder, it's not fooling anyone anymore. They've done it so many times. They need to fake it at this point.

• 1:02:04Speaker 03

  Yeah. memes literally said they're going to do the hook and ladder right here.

• 1:02:06Speaker 00

  Yeah. They need to fake the hook and ladder and then have the guy go up, you know, go up the field or, or maybe have.

• 1:02:11Speaker 03

  I feel like they've done that before too.

• 1:02:12Speaker 00

  Yeah. Maybe have two guys doing hook and ladders. I don't know.

• 1:02:15Speaker 04

  You gotta do cross field.

• 1:02:16Speaker 00

  You have to do a flea flicker in.

• 1:02:18Speaker 03

  They do that too, I, I think.

• 1:02:20Speaker 04

  No, cross field.

• 1:02:21Speaker 00

  Like throw it?

• 1:02:22Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:02:22Speaker 02

  Well, what you do is you hit the guy with the hook and ladder and then you have to have another guy cutting inside off the hook and ladder guy because the defense is going to already be swarming to the ladder. So you have to have two ladders.

• 1:02:33Speaker 03

  Maybe a Statue of Liberty hook and ladder.

• 1:02:37Speaker 00

  That would be cool.

• 1:02:38Speaker 03

  Like you, you fake the hook and it's a Statue of Liberty to somebody else going the other way.

• 1:02:42Speaker 00

  This has been a very fun Sunday night football game.

• 1:02:44Speaker 03

  Oh yeah.

• 1:02:44Speaker 00

  Cause they, these two defenses stink.

• 1:02:46Speaker 02

  Or I wish you'd bring back the, uh, the hook and ladder to Penae Sewell. You tried that one time.

• 1:02:52Speaker 03

  That plays too.

• 1:02:53Speaker 02

  Let the man run.

• 1:02:54Speaker 00

  Damn, golf has 400 yards and, uh, Bryce Young has 329. Just lighting it up. Absolutely.

• 1:03:03Speaker 02

  This is good for football.

• 1:03:04Speaker 00

  Love Sunday night. Ladder went great.

• 1:03:06Speaker 02

  Sunday night shootout's are the best.

• 1:03:08Speaker 00

  He went the ladder, the 320 yards for Bryce Young was plus 488 and it went all the way up. So yeah. Uh, okay. We'll, we'll recap that when, when it finishes. Next up.

• 1:03:22Speaker 00

  Max, you ready?

• 1:03:23Speaker 03

  Sure.

• 1:03:24Speaker 00

  Do you want to do your game right now? Or you want to watch, you want to?

• 1:03:26Speaker 03

  Let's do it.

• 1:03:27Speaker 00

  You want to do an inconsequential game while we, while we watch the end of this game?

• 1:03:30Speaker 03

  This was inconsequent and whatever.

• 1:03:33Speaker 00

  Yeah. What was that?

• 1:03:34Speaker 03

  Inconsequential.

• 1:03:35Speaker 00

  Okay. Uh, Rams 24, Eagles 20.

• 1:03:43Speaker 03

  Yeah, it was. It was terrible blown lead. The offense stinks.

• 1:03:49Speaker 00

  Can I say?

• 1:03:49Speaker 03

  The offense is also a preseason roster right now.

• 1:03:51Speaker 00

  Can I say it was mean what the Eagles did to you today?

• 1:03:54Speaker 03

  A hundred percent.

• 1:03:55Speaker 00

  Because you went into the game being like assessing the situation. You don't have Devante Smith. You don't have like Saquon gets a gets hurt banged up at the beginning of the game. Your offensive line's banged up, your defense banged up, all these things. The Rams need a win. Puka's back. You went into this game, you said before the game, it's like, we're playing like with no one. We're like, it's gonna be really hard to win this game. And then they got a 10 point lead and it became a game where it's like, now you have to win it because you're up 10, you're up 10 with fourth and goal on the two yard line.

• 1:04:29Speaker 03

  No, no, no, no, no. We were up 10, second and goal from the five yard.

• 1:04:34Speaker 00

  Second goal, yeah. And you somehow lost the game. You were, you were, you, all you had to do was get in, in the end zone, you would have been up 17 game over. They stopped you at fourth.

• 1:04:46Speaker 03

  I actually, I've thought about that. The, the more I've thought about that, I disagree.

• 1:04:50Speaker 00

  You think they would have won no matter?

• 1:04:51Speaker 03

  I think they would have won no matter what.

• 1:04:52Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:04:53Speaker 03

  Because they scored so quickly those two times.

• 1:04:57Speaker 00

  I mean statistically, the Rams dominated this game.

• 1:05:00Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:05:01Speaker 00

  Like it wasn't even close.

• 1:05:02Speaker 03

  For the, for the Eagles to be in it, they need, like Stafford had some bad pick.

• 1:05:06Speaker 00

  Yeah, no, no, Stafford threw two picks and then, and then you had the punt return that was very helpful. Yeah, I, I looked it up because you guys went, you scored, you scored 17 points and off those 17 points, you had a, it was a six play drive for 17 yards, a two play drive for 17 yards, a two play drive for 35 yards. So like, you didn't have to go far or throw a three play drive, whatever.

• 1:05:31Speaker 03

  Yeah, I mean, the Eagles were terrible in this game. They were playing with a preseason roster. And Jalen Hurts played badly. So with all of that, the fact that they even had a chant, chance in this game was insane. I, I've never been looking at the clock to go down more than I was in this game.

• 1:05:48Speaker 02

  So you don't mind the, the decision by Sirianni then?

• 1:05:53Speaker 03

  I think they lose no matter what.

• 1:05:55Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:05:55Speaker 03

  I think like.

• 1:05:56Speaker 02

  Yeah, it was a 98 yard and a 79 yard drive.

• 1:05:59Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 1:06:00Speaker 02

  And so they weren't stopping anyone.

• 1:06:01Speaker 03

  They weren't stopping, the, the Rams, it had finally clicked and the, the Eagles defense, we asked so much of the Eagles defense that entire game. They were on the field the whole game.

• 1:06:12Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:06:12Speaker 03

  So it's like, eventually they were gonna break down, especially being down so many guys already. Zach Ballin was hurt going into the game. Quinian Mitchell goes down in the, in the middle of the game. Jonathan Grenar goes down in the middle of the game. Like Jalen Carter was playing edge at one point, I noticed like. They did, the team was, it was a preseason roster today that they were so lucky to be in that game. But you still want to figure out, you still like, would like to think that you could find a way. But it's just bullshit that they put me in that situation, like you said.

• 1:06:44Speaker 00

  Right, they were mean to you.

• 1:06:46Speaker 03

  Cause I was done, like I went into this game, I was like, all right, this is.

• 1:06:48Speaker 00

  You said it before.

• 1:06:49Speaker 03

  This is nothing game, they're gonna lose this game, whatever, try and get healthy. And now we got even more hurt. Like I, I felt that way going into the game. And then we had five huge injuries in the middle of the game. And then we go to London next week. So they're not gonna bring the guy like.

• 1:07:05Speaker 02

  Saquon's probably not going to London.

• 1:07:06Speaker 03

  Next week, we're gonna get absolutely boat raced in London.

• 1:07:08Speaker 02

  What about Lane Johnson?

• 1:07:10Speaker 03

  Lane Johnson might retire.

• 1:07:11Speaker 02

  Because Lane, I mean, we've seen all the stats of how much better the, the Eagles are when Lane's playing, when he's not. Specifically with the quarterback.

• 1:07:20Speaker 03

  Right.

• 1:07:20Speaker 02

  And do we know that, was that surprising to you?

• 1:07:22Speaker 03

  Markell Bell was, I mean, he's a, he's a rookie. He's our third string tackle, our backup was also hurt going into this game. So.

• 1:07:33Speaker 03

  He was terrible, but it, I mean, I, I will say I haven't watched the all 22, but my two eyes of when I was watching the game, he seemed like he was terrible. And without Lane Johnson, who was the leader of the offense, the leader of the team really. It's, it would be a big blow if he, if he decides to hang it up. So I hope he, I hope he's doing okay because I know he's had some.

• 1:07:53Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:07:54Speaker 03

  Mental health, health stuff in the past and it seemed like it was a big shock to everyone that he wasn't playing in this game.

• 1:08:00Speaker 02

  Yeah, I, I hope he's okay too. They went, um, the Eagles went 0 for 12 on third down, which is.

• 1:08:06Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:08:06Speaker 02

  Kind of, kind of a crazy stat.

• 1:08:08Speaker 00

  One for four on fourth down, which they usually.

• 1:08:11Speaker 03

  Yeah, Zach Ertz catches that ball, they probably win the game, but the fact that I'm relying on a 59 year old Zach Ertz to catch a ball to win the game is probably an indictment of where this team is at health wise right now.

• 1:08:23Speaker 00

  Was this the worst sports week?

• 1:08:27Speaker 00

  Of your life?

• 1:08:30Speaker 03

  I had this like same week last week, last year.

• 1:08:33Speaker 00

  I don't know if it was exactly the same, was it?

• 1:08:37Speaker 03

  I think it was pretty close.

• 1:08:38Speaker 02

  Some, someone sent me the entire list.

• 1:08:40Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:08:41Speaker 03

  It was the Orion Kirkering overthrow, Eagle, Eagles get.

• 1:08:46Speaker 00

  Thursday night.

• 1:08:47Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:08:47Speaker 04

  That was just a day.

• 1:08:48Speaker 02

  That was a day.

• 1:08:49Speaker 03

  But then it was also Penn State sandwiched in between that of the fire of the. I think James Franklin got fired that week as well, because I think it was right after they lost to UCLA. And then they lost to Northwestern the week after.

• 1:09:03Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:09:03Speaker 03

  So that was also in the middle of it.

• 1:09:05Speaker 02

  One of our coworkers sent me the, the calendar of the last week. If I could read it out loud.

• 1:09:10Speaker 03

  Yeah, that would be memes, he's made like 10 graphics of it.

• 1:09:12Speaker 02

  It was memes, it's a different calendar.

• 1:09:15Speaker 00

  Just one.

• 1:09:16Speaker 02

  Saturday, September 26th, Penn State loses to Wisconsin. Phillies lose to the Rays 12 to one. Sunday, September 27th, Phillies beat the Rays 7 to 3.

• 1:09:26Speaker 00

  There's a win.

• 1:09:27Speaker 02

  So that's good. Monday, September 28th. Eagles lose 27 to 7 to the Bears.

• 1:09:33Speaker 03

  Case Keenum and the Bears.

• 1:09:35Speaker 02

  Case Keenum.

• 1:09:35Speaker 03

  Make sure you add that, yeah.

• 1:09:37Speaker 02

  Tuesday, September 29th, Phillies lose 5 to 3 to the Braves. Wednesday, September 30th, Flyers lose 7-0 to the Penguins. The Phillies do beat the Braves 4-3 in 10 innings.

• 1:09:47Speaker 00

  That's huge.

• 1:09:48Speaker 03

  That was a sick game.

• 1:09:49Speaker 02

  Yep, Thursday, October 1st, Flyers lose 3 to 2 overtime to the Devils. Phillies lose 62 to the Braves.

• 1:09:57Speaker 02

  Friday, September 2nd, Penn State loses 34 to 13 to Northwestern, Max is in attendance. Saturday, October 2nd, Flyers lose 3 to 2 overtime to the Canes. Sunday, October 4th, Eagles lose 24 to 20.

• 1:10:12Speaker 03

  With a 10 point lead in the fourth quarter.

• 1:10:14Speaker 02

  With a 10 point lead in the fourth quarter. When you list it out like that, it doesn't sound, it doesn't sound fun.

• 1:10:19Speaker 00

  No. It really is, it, it's really, you could sum it up, you don't even have to list all of them. It's just, your football teams are 0 and 4 in the last eight days and your baseball team got eliminated the postseason. That's it.

• 1:10:34Speaker 03

  Yeah, but the baseball team's even worse than that because the, the end of the regular season was such a fucking disaster.

• 1:10:39Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:10:40Speaker 03

  That, that also goes into account because we didn't get, if we had our pitching aligned, maybe things would have been different.

• 1:10:47Speaker 00

  So I saw you say that you might retire from sports and then it, it kind of clicked in your head. I saw your like the, the hamster moving around in your brain and you're like, that would mean I'd have to retire from my.

• 1:10:58Speaker 03

  That hamster has so much work.

• 1:11:00Speaker 00

  That hamster.

• 1:11:01Speaker 02

  LeBron, you can't quit before LeBron.

• 1:11:03Speaker 00

  That hamster has.

• 1:11:04Speaker 03

  That's gonna be a disaster.

• 1:11:05Speaker 00

  That hamster has a six pack. It's just work, it's just running on a treadmill constantly. Uh, so are, where are you at now? Cause you, you were, you actually didn't freak out too bad until Hank, what, what did Hank say?

• 1:11:20Speaker 03

  Classic, I was super pissed off, I'm, I'm leaving the cave and Hank's.

• 1:11:24Speaker 05

  No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. You didn't say a word.

• 1:11:27Speaker 03

  Correct.

• 1:11:29Speaker 05

  So I didn't know if you were pissed off or not. I had bet the Eagles.

• 1:11:33Speaker 00

  You thought you might have been happy.

• 1:11:33Speaker 02

  Yeah, Hank, there was no way for Hank to know that you were.

• 1:11:35Speaker 05

  I had bet the Eagles.

• 1:11:37Speaker 00

  I was blowing a lead, 10 point lead where the win probability for the Rams was 3.2% with eight minutes left. He thought you might have been happy.

• 1:11:44Speaker 03

  97%.

• 1:11:45Speaker 05

  We were mourning together, it was the witching hours, there was a lot going on and like there was, it was a quiet time in the cave. We were all kind of recapping what was going on. Max hadn't talked in like 10 minutes and I, I think.

• 1:11:55Speaker 03

  That's normally an indication that I'm in a good spot.

• 1:11:57Speaker 05

  There's probably a clip where I was like, Max, that was fucking brutal, man.

• 1:12:01Speaker 00

  Real quick?

• 1:12:03Speaker 05

  Yeah, play the clip.

• 1:12:03Speaker 03

  I'm not, I don't know.

• 1:12:04Speaker 00

  Play.

• 1:12:05Speaker 03

  I'm not, I'm not pulling up.

• 1:12:06Speaker 02

  Max can't find it. Say the headphones off.

• 1:12:10Speaker 00

  Zach, can you pull up the clip?

• 1:12:11Speaker 03

  I don't know why I gave Zach the headphones.

• 1:12:12Speaker 00

  I think Barstool Gambling posted it. I'd like to see the clip.

• 1:12:16Speaker 02

  Hank, what did you say to him?

• 1:12:17Speaker 00

  I don't even remember.

• 1:12:18Speaker 05

  I think I said, and again, I had bet the Eagles and I had, I had, I had the Giants and I had the Cowboys. So I'm like rooting for the NFC East.

• 1:12:25Speaker 00

  He's closing his eyes.

• 1:12:26Speaker 05

  I'm, I'm upset about the loss, just as upset as Max was, if not more upset.

• 1:12:31Speaker 02

  That's how I felt after the Super Bowl when the Patriots lost.

• 1:12:33Speaker 05

  Exactly, exactly.

• 1:12:35Speaker 00

  That's not the clip.

• 1:12:36Speaker 05

  And I was like, I was like, Max, that was fucking brutal, man. And then he just, he like almost broke our sponsors, our nice sponsor, uh, ball pit.

• 1:12:45Speaker 00

  Zach, you had it, go back.

• 1:12:47Speaker 02

  Oh, the Raising Canes cage?

• 1:12:49Speaker 00

  That one, is Max is big mad, no, no, go down. There you go. All right, go, yes.

• 1:12:58Speaker 02

  There's a lot of posts, to be fair, that are labeled something like Max is distraught, Max is very upset, so it's hard to find which.

• 1:13:03Speaker 00

  Go ahead, press play.

• 1:13:06Speaker 00

  I can't remember what he said.

• 1:13:14Speaker 05

  Pods dead.

• 1:13:19Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:13:23Speaker 05

  I said that was horrible, dude. It was.

• 1:13:25Speaker 00

  That was horrible, dude. And then he kicked the keys.

• 1:13:28Speaker 02

  He destroyed the sign. The sign fell off. The top stinted.

• 1:13:38Speaker 05

  And then, and then, and then.

• 1:13:39Speaker 02

  Hank, why are you smiling right now?

• 1:13:41Speaker 05

  Right now?

• 1:13:42Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:13:43Speaker 00

  Well, because it was funny.

• 1:13:44Speaker 05

  Hilarious clip.

• 1:13:45Speaker 00

  It was fucking funny.

• 1:13:46Speaker 05

  It was hilarious clip. Listen.

• 1:13:50Speaker 00

  Okay, let's pause it. All right, Max, come back. Come back, Max.

• 1:13:54Speaker 05

  Then we stay in the cave. We watched the rest of the, rest of the afternoon games. I heard a report like three hours later, Max was just sitting in silence and in the P and P studio crisscross applesauce.

• 1:14:02Speaker 00

  I came, I came to draw, I came to put my wallet, my keys in here and Max was just, uh, had the door closed and was just laying with his feet up on the couch, just like, you could just tell he was in a bad spot.

• 1:14:16Speaker 05

  No.

• 1:14:16Speaker 00

  I don't even think I, did I say a word to you when I came in?

• 1:14:19Speaker 03

  Sure. That was big. I needed that.

• 1:14:21Speaker 00

  I just walked in, dropped my shit off, walked right out.

• 1:14:23Speaker 03

  I needed, I just needed like an hour of, and then now.

• 1:14:27Speaker 02

  You needed Zach around you.

• 1:14:29Speaker 03

  I just needed an hour. I just needed an hour to myself. And then I was okay. And then I, and I came back in better, in better spirits. It's just been a lot of losses. I've just been stacking L's recently and I thought I was like, this would be, this would be such a cool win. I was like, this would be such a cool win. No one thought we were going to win this game. We got preseason. We could have just stole the, stole this game.

• 1:14:49Speaker 02

  Yeah, Hank bet on him.

• 1:14:50Speaker 05

  I believed.

• 1:14:51Speaker 03

  I wasn't even mad at you, Hank. It was just like.

• 1:14:53Speaker 05

  I know.

• 1:14:54Speaker 03

  It was just, I needed, I needed frustration.

• 1:14:56Speaker 05

  You either.

• 1:14:57Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:14:57Speaker 03

  Like, I didn't really yell at you. I just was, I was just mad at, I did yell at you, but I didn't mean it.

• 1:15:03Speaker 02

  Well, I wouldn't say you.

• 1:15:04Speaker 05

  I didn't take it, I didn't take it personally.

• 1:15:06Speaker 02

  You were yelling out the door. You were on your way out the door.

• 1:15:08Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:15:09Speaker 05

  You should apologize to the Raisin Canes ball pit.

• 1:15:11Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:15:12Speaker 03

  Yeah, I am sorry to the Raisin Canes ball pit. Um.

• 1:15:16Speaker 02

  Thank you.

• 1:15:17Speaker 03

  I don't even know what happened with that because I went to go try and, I don't know how that thing was initially hanging up because I went to go try and put it back and it's, it was an impossible task.

• 1:15:28Speaker 02

  It damaged it beyond repair.

• 1:15:29Speaker 00

  What, uh, what's the, are you, is Nick Sirianni, are you giving up on all of this? Because the offenses, I know there's a lot of guys hurt.

• 1:15:37Speaker 03

  I mean, the entire offense is hurt.

• 1:15:38Speaker 00

  So, so then just all this game boy.

• 1:15:40Speaker 03

  Jalen Hurts played poorly. But Devante Smith, Dallas Goddard, Lane Johnson, Landon Dickerson, Saquon Barkley all did play in this game.

• 1:15:47Speaker 00

  That's a big, that's a really good team.

• 1:15:50Speaker 02

  Does it, does it concern you though, that it's the second game, I think it's the second game in a row where you haven't scored in the second half?

• 1:15:55Speaker 03

  Yeah, the game plan in the second half is brutal, but the only reason they scored in the first half is because they got field, field position. They had 175 yards of total, or of total yard.

• 1:16:06Speaker 02

  After the game was over, I was, I went back to the kitchen to get some, uh, some post game one ice cream. And as I was in there, I heard you yelling on the phone to somebody. I, I can only assume that it was to a Delante.

• 1:16:18Speaker 03

  That was my dad.

• 1:16:18Speaker 02

  Okay, yeah, so.

• 1:16:19Speaker 03

  He was trying to calm me down and I was, and I was, I was motherfucking.

• 1:16:23Speaker 02

  I was wondering who was on, because it did sound from the one side of the conversation, I heard that there was somebody trying to be supportive on the other side for you.

• 1:16:29Speaker 03

  No, I wasn't taking it.

• 1:16:29Speaker 02

  But you weren't taking it.

• 1:16:30Speaker 00

  What was he saying to you?

• 1:16:31Speaker 03

  I don't even remember. I couldn't, I, I swear to God.

• 1:16:34Speaker 02

  You were very upset that they, was it, they didn't go to Cooper at all in the second half?

• 1:16:37Speaker 00

  Cooper.

• 1:16:37Speaker 02

  Cause you were like, they went to him twice in the first half and then.

• 1:16:40Speaker 03

  I don't even know.

• 1:16:40Speaker 00

  That touchdown catch you made was on.

• 1:16:42Speaker 03

  I actually wish they went back. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know.

• 1:16:45Speaker 00

  Yeah, the Eagles have, uh, they lead the league in three and outs with 15 and 11 of the 15 if occurred in the second half.

• 1:16:52Speaker 03

  The second half is, the third quarter is the worst quarter in the history of quarters.

• 1:16:55Speaker 00

  Yeah. I, I do think the Rams.

• 1:16:58Speaker 03

  Rams are, Rams are a problem. They stink.

• 1:17:00Speaker 00

  Oh, I, I don't think they stink.

• 1:17:02Speaker 03

  They stink.

• 1:17:03Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:17:04Speaker 03

  They should have blown the doors off of that team. That's a preseason team.

• 1:17:09Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's, it's also, uh, like a weird travel for them thinking, what? Sunday night football, Mile High to then East Coast Body Clock, early game, like, you know, 10 a.m. game. That's a, that's a spot to come out flat.

• 1:17:25Speaker 03

  If they lost that game, that would have been an embarrassment.

• 1:17:27Speaker 00

  I agree. I'm just saying like the, the flatness of, of, of the, how the Rams looked at portions of that game can be at least a little bit explained by the fact that they were just traveling across country after playing Sunday night football, Mile High.

• 1:17:44Speaker 00

  They won.

• 1:17:44Speaker 03

  That's a, yeah, I guess.

• 1:17:45Speaker 00

  Yeah, they won. They won. I, listen, Stafford's like, Stafford, uh, has six interceptions on the year. He, last year, he didn't throw his sixth interception till week 17. So that's a problem. But with Puka now back, you could see like the Puka, Kyron Williams, Tyler Higbee, I mean, it can obviously be Terrence Ferguson when he comes back.

• 1:18:05Speaker 02

  Devante.

• 1:18:06Speaker 00

  That trio with Devante mixed in, like that offense is very, very difficult to deal with. You saw how easy they went down the field at the end of the game.

• 1:18:15Speaker 03

  I get it, but that it's, they're, they were playing a second string team.

• 1:18:18Speaker 02

  I, I get that, but also Nick Sirianni had never lost to McVay before.

• 1:18:23Speaker 00

  I think, like.

• 1:18:24Speaker 03

  I don't think that's like a, like, that's like an indictment of like a, a, that makes the Rams a good team.

• 1:18:29Speaker 02

  No, it doesn't, but it does make the Eagles, like the Rams have not been, even when they were like at their best, they've not been able to beat the Eagles in the past. So it is kind of a big thing.

• 1:18:38Speaker 00

  I would, I would be buying stock in the Rams right now because Miles Garrett's about to be back and Aaron Donald was out today. I just, I think they're going to be, they're gonna, although, ooh, I didn't realize they have Monday Night Football against the Bills next week.

• 1:18:53Speaker 03

  Okay, it could have been a look ahead spot, but I don't know. You can't have a look ahead spot when you're looking at one and three, like, they needed to win this game.

• 1:18:59Speaker 00

  I know.

• 1:18:59Speaker 03

  And they came out so fucking flat.

• 1:19:01Speaker 00

  But I'm looking at the, I'm looking at the Rams schedule coming up. Like they have the Bills. That's going to be a very tough game. But then they play the Cardinals, Raiders, Chargers, Commanders, Cardinals, Packers. Like those are, those feel like games the Rams should stack some wins. So, and, and when you see Puka back out on the field, you're like, fuck, this is a problem. He's just so good. And Kyron is awesome.

• 1:19:23Speaker 02

  The offense looks a lot different.

• 1:19:24Speaker 00

  Kyron was awesome.

• 1:19:25Speaker 02

  A lot different with Puka back.

• 1:19:26Speaker 00

  Kyron caught, how many, he had, uh, 10 catches today.

• 1:19:31Speaker 00

  All right. So Max, you're not gonna, you're not gonna quit your job? What'd you think about the Rams, uh, coaches flipping off Eagles fans? You see that video?

• 1:19:39Speaker 03

  Yeah, there was a lot going on. There was a lot going on. Apparently there was stuff before the video that,

• 1:19:46Speaker 03

  I, I don't know. Lot of, lot of context that needs, because throwing the drink at the thing is, is crazy, but according to the Eagles fans that were there, they were, the Rams fans were antagonizing the Eagles fans first.

• 1:19:59Speaker 00

  Those are Rams coaching staff.

• 1:20:00Speaker 03

  Or the Rams coaching staff.

• 1:20:01Speaker 00

  Which makes it way funnier. Way funnier. Yeah.

• 1:20:05Speaker 02

  Is this the most violent conduct by a booth at the link in American history?

• 1:20:09Speaker 00

  Hmm. Good question.

• 1:20:11Speaker 02

  It might be.

• 1:20:14Speaker 00

  He's gonna get it. He's gonna get it. He's gonna get it. Nope.

• 1:20:19Speaker 02

  No, that's okay. We'll move on.

• 1:20:20Speaker 00

  That hamster's, hamster's shut down for the night.

• 1:20:25Speaker 02

  Yeah, tuck him in.

• 1:20:28Speaker 03

  Like John Wilkes Booth?

• 1:20:29Speaker 02

  There you go. There you go.

• 1:20:31Speaker 00

  That hamster, the hamster just, the hamster just did the Undertaker meme.

• 1:20:35Speaker 02

  Lincoln, Lincoln was the guy.

• 1:20:36Speaker 03

  Oh, right. Yeah. I was, wow. Got it, got it, got it, got it, got it.

• 1:20:40Speaker 00

  The hamster just did a, did, he just got out of the casket.

• 1:20:43Speaker 02

  Oh, that's right. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Uh,

• 1:20:47Speaker 00

  wait, that's it for the game. Who?

• 1:20:48Speaker 02

  Max and John Wilkes Booth?

• 1:20:50Speaker 00

  Something, yeah.

• 1:20:51Speaker 02

  That's right.

• 1:20:52Speaker 00

  You are.

• 1:20:52Speaker 03

  Me, Max?

• 1:20:53Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:20:54Speaker 03

  What are you?

• 1:20:57Speaker 05

  No, Lincoln and John Wilkes Booth.

• 1:20:58Speaker 02

  No.

• 1:20:59Speaker 00

  Are you thinking of?

• 1:20:59Speaker 02

  You're thinking of the Lincoln secretaries was Kennedy and Kennedy secretary was Lincoln. Close enough. That'd be wild to throw cousins.

• 1:21:06Speaker 05

  That's what I heard.

• 1:21:06Speaker 03

  Maybe you should get a better hamster, Hank.

• 1:21:08Speaker 02

  Yeah, get a better.

• 1:21:09Speaker 05

  No, I, trust me.

• 1:21:11Speaker 00

  Hank's hamster.

• 1:21:12Speaker 05

  I know history.

• 1:21:14Speaker 02

  John Wilkes Booth saved, oh no, Abraham Lincoln, I think saved John Wilkes Booth's brother's life.

• 1:21:20Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 1:21:22Speaker 05

  So was other cousins.

• 1:21:23Speaker 02

  When they were running a train or, yeah.

• 1:21:24Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm. That's how you, that's how he met his mother.

• 1:21:27Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:21:28Speaker 02

  Oh, Max, have you thought about when you're going to feel joy again? Do you have a date circled?

• 1:21:33Speaker 03

  Yeah, no, I had a great, great joy Saturday night, Mount Joy. That's why I was like, maybe sport, like, no sports.

• 1:21:39Speaker 00

  Time for you.

• 1:21:40Speaker 05

  Yeah, maybe you become one of those like, uh,

• 1:21:42Speaker 03

  I was being.

• 1:21:43Speaker 05

  People in the pit.

• 1:21:45Speaker 05

  Just like a roadie.

• 1:21:46Speaker 03

  Yeah. Yeah, sure. That was fun. Shout out Mount Joy.

• 1:21:51Speaker 00

  That band rocks.

• 1:21:52Speaker 02

  Love them.

• 1:21:53Speaker 00

  That band rocks. Okay, uh, Bears 23, Jets 12. Memes. Hate week's over.

• 1:22:02Speaker 04

  Eight weeks over. Before we talk about the Jets sucking ass, Carl Chafers, or whatever the fuck his name is, ruined the Jets' first interception.

• 1:22:11Speaker 00

  Yeah, agreed, agreed. Well, Tyson Beasley wanted to throw you like seven interceptions.

• 1:22:16Speaker 04

  So many.

• 1:22:16Speaker 00

  There were so many flags, it took away interceptions. I don't know. His PFF grade is gonna be a mess.

• 1:22:23Speaker 00

  Yeah, no, that was, that was a crazy moment where it was like, hey, the Jets finally got an interception, but you did get one like.

• 1:22:28Speaker 04

  And but it was, it was a fat guy interception and it was just a phantom hands of the face.

• 1:22:33Speaker 00

  It was a bad call.

• 1:22:33Speaker 02

  Tavandre Sweat, right?

• 1:22:35Speaker 04

  Tavandre Sweat.

• 1:22:36Speaker 02

  One-handed, fat guy interception. It doesn't get any better than that to break a streak.

• 1:22:40Speaker 00

  I came, I came back to do something back here and memes is like, just so you know, the score is actually six to three, because we're not, I'm not accepting that interception. And I was like, okay.

• 1:22:50Speaker 04

  So yeah, they scored a touchdown on that drive too.

• 1:22:51Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:22:52Speaker 02

  Yeah. The meanest thing, he got the pick and then he celebrated because he's like, holy shit, I'm a big boy, just caught the ball. His teammates are all like gassing up, gassing them up. And then you see the, the flag graphic come down. And then after he goes to the sidelines, you see the wave of realization hit him. And they're like, hey, man, that didn't count, which does suck, but it also made me think that like, I do need a camera on people's faces the entire game. If you do something good and there's a flag.

• 1:23:18Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:23:19Speaker 02

  I do love seeing the players go from celebrating to being like, ah, shit.

• 1:23:23Speaker 00

  Shit.

• 1:23:23Speaker 02

  That like second of disappointment that hits them.

• 1:23:25Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:23:25Speaker 02

  I do like having that camera, but memes, you're right. In my mind, that's what ended the streak.

• 1:23:31Speaker 04

  Yeah, me too. They did end it.

• 1:23:33Speaker 00

  That.

• 1:23:33Speaker 04

  One series.

• 1:23:34Speaker 00

  Yeah, you ended it right away after. Uh, this was just a domination. I mean, that was, I don't even understand the Jets tweet that they did that they're getting ratioed for, if you can explain it to me, but the, the Bears had, Bears had 34 first downs, the Jets had 32 plays. So it was 492 yards, 157. Bears had 89 plays to the Jets 32 plays. Bears just played bully ball. Uh, Kyle Manungai is an absolute monster. I just love watching him run. Roma Doonze looked awesome. And Ben Johnson had fun with everyone doing the two quarterbacks at the beginning because he said that everyone had decided who was, uh, starting. So he thought he would just be like, hey, you don't know. And, uh, yeah, the defense looks good. I don't know how much to take of it when it comes to

• 1:24:17Speaker 00

  like, you, you guys are pretty banged up offensively. Bryce Hall, obviously didn't play. You guys are missing some receivers, but the Bears defense has been very good. Uh, at least the last two games, actually last three games, Bears defense has been really good. And Dennis Allen feels like he's got the guys playing well.

• 1:24:35Speaker 04

  Yeah, no, the, your defense, your defense rocked and Frank Reich just had like one of the worst offensive game plans ever. Now, the offense, like an excuse, they were just standing on the sideline for 10 minutes at a time while the Bears just went down the field.

• 1:24:50Speaker 00

  Oh, the ga, the way the game started where the Bears go down the field, don't get the, don't get a touchdown, couldn't get one yard, which that was, if you, if you had to do concerns from the game, concern number one would be, uh, red zone, because we, I, we scored two touchdowns out of seven red zone trips and it felt like at moments we couldn't get a single yard, but we got down to the one, stopped the one, you guys got the ball, three and out, then another long drive. And it was like, that was the entire first quarter. Um, my other concern would be Tyson Beasley didn't look super sharp, I would say.

• 1:25:22Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:25:22Speaker 00

  But.

• 1:25:23Speaker 04

  No.

• 1:25:23Speaker 00

  A win's a win.

• 1:25:24Speaker 04

  No.

• 1:25:24Speaker 00

  But yeah, he did not look super sharp.

• 1:25:26Speaker 04

  And guys were just wide open.

• 1:25:27Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's the Ben Johnson effect. I mean, Ben Johnson now, we're four weeks into the season, he has won a football game with three different quarterbacks. These, this is why I would do anything for the guy. This is why I would die for him. This is why I think he's on God level. He's just, I mean, that's pretty insane to have it. Most teams can't have their backup quarterback win a game, let alone the third string. So we're, we're now here, three and one, and we've won with three different guys.

• 1:25:50Speaker 02

  He did say, uh, it was a ceremonial first pitch.

• 1:25:53Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:25:53Speaker 02

  The handing of the torch when he put Keenum out there at the beginning of the game.

• 1:25:56Speaker 00

  I don't know. There will be a lot of discussion this week about Case Keenum has to start against the Packers. Uh, whatever Ben Johnson does is the right decision in my mind. I don't really, I'm not going to stress about it. Whatever, whatever happens, happens and I'm going to trust whatever he decides.

• 1:26:12Speaker 02

  I think, if I had to guess, I would say they're probably going to stick with Beasley.

• 1:26:16Speaker 00

  Yeah. I mean, listen, Beasley, I think he can operate the offense. His arm is not super strong and you could see it on some of the throws where it's like, he's maybe holding on to the ball too long and trying to make a throw over the middle. That's just, he doesn't have the arm strength for that someone like Caleb Williams can make. And you can't, you can't, like, it's okay when you make those mistakes when your defense is balling out. If the defense, I mean, the defense has been playing, like I said, incredible, uh, the last three games and Thienman, who's our rookie, has been awesome. He's led every single game in, in tackles. Dios looked awesome, like the pass rush has shown up. So it's just, if you get into a tight game, you can't make mistakes like that. So that'll be interesting. But Caleb's a quarterback, so it's like, just try to find a way to, to tread water

• 1:27:01Speaker 00

  and we're now two and oh treading water.

• 1:27:02Speaker 02

  Just alternate.

• 1:27:03Speaker 00

  So I'm very excited.

• 1:27:04Speaker 02

  Alternate quarterbacks.

• 1:27:05Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:27:05Speaker 02

  Let Case get him get a full two weeks worth of rest in afterwards.

• 1:27:08Speaker 00

  That was, I mean, it was bully ball though. The, the way we were running the ball, the way we run the ball is so fucking awesome. It's just, they just.

• 1:27:15Speaker 02

  Time possession was 42, 45 to 17, 15.

• 1:27:18Speaker 00

  It was crazy.

• 1:27:19Speaker 02

  You had 27, you ran, you had 27 plays inside the red zone today.

• 1:27:23Speaker 00

  Yeah. I mean, Kyle Manungai is just, he's a bowling ball. He doesn't go down. And Deandre Swift, uh, he fumbled, I think he got a little banged up, but he's, he's awesome too. It's just, it's fun to watch. Colston Loveland finally got into the game. I just love Ben Johnson. That's all I got. What do you, where are you at memes with the Jets overall?

• 1:27:41Speaker 04

  Uh, I mean, after that game, they stink. Like if we're doing the levels again.

• 1:27:46Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:27:46Speaker 04

  You beat Titans, you're better than the ass teams, but like, this is a top 10 football team who doesn't have their starting quarterback and you're still getting pushed around like you're, you're, you could only play competitive games against like bottom 10 teams.

• 1:27:59Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:27:59Speaker 04

  And it's two sides of a coin. Like Ben Johnson and Aaron Glenn get hired at the same time. Ben Johnson has all three phases firing on all cylinders and you have Aaron Glenn, who superpowers defense. Like, that's just not, he's a nice guy.

• 1:28:15Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:28:15Speaker 04

  He was a really good player for the team. I think this is a problem with hiring a guy.

• 1:28:20Speaker 02

  Maybe good leader of men.

• 1:28:21Speaker 04

  Good leader of men. Everybody loves him.

• 1:28:25Speaker 04

  But like, he just, they're just not going in the right direction.

• 1:28:29Speaker 00

  I, uh, there's a stat I saw that, so there are five 2026 hires that are one win away from reaching Aaron Glenn's total wins as a head coach. That's not great.

• 1:28:43Speaker 02

  No.

• 1:28:43Speaker 00

  So Aaron Glenn's four and 17 as a coach.

• 1:28:47Speaker 02

  Uh, Kubiak.

• 1:28:48Speaker 00

  Joe Brady, Todd Monkin, Jesse Minter, John Harbaugh and Kubiak all have three wins apiece.

• 1:28:54Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:28:55Speaker 00

  Also, this is just like, you know, the meme, uh, thank you for changing my life. And it's like, I'm, I'm literally just, you know, whatever. And it's, that's the meme for me. Thank you for changing my life. I'm literally just Ben Johnson. Matt Eberflus had 14 wins in 46 games coaching the Bears. Ben Johnson has 15 wins in 23 games coaching the Bears. So he's already passed him.

• 1:29:17Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:29:18Speaker 00

  And it's half the amount of games coached.

• 1:29:20Speaker 02

  He's a, he's an excellent coach to have the offense look as good as it has for the last two weeks.

• 1:29:24Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:29:25Speaker 02

  Like you said, second string, third string. Do you have an emergency quarterback?

• 1:29:30Speaker 00

  Who's, I don't know.

• 1:29:31Speaker 02

  Would it be, uh, maybe Loveland?

• 1:29:32Speaker 00

  We, no, we did have the, uh, USC kid.

• 1:29:35Speaker 04

  Miller Moss.

• 1:29:35Speaker 00

  Yeah, Miller Moss.

• 1:29:36Speaker 02

  Miller Moss.

• 1:29:37Speaker 00

  Yeah. So he might be practice squad. Um, yeah, probably Ben, Ben Johnson might just be like, fuck it, let's just do that too.

• 1:29:44Speaker 02

  What, what if, if you had to win a game without passing the ball? Do you, who's the worst team in the league? The Dolphins?

• 1:29:51Speaker 00

  Titans.

• 1:29:52Speaker 02

  Titans. Could you beat, if, okay, if you made a worst of starting lineup from the Tex, or from the Titans and the Dolphins, so you took the worst 22 players.

• 1:30:02Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:30:03Speaker 02

  At the, at whatever position it is.

• 1:30:04Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:30:05Speaker 02

  Could you beat them without throwing a pass?

• 1:30:07Speaker 00

  Are we playing at home?

• 1:30:08Speaker 02

  You're playing at home.

• 1:30:09Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:30:09Speaker 02

  It's not that cold out.

• 1:30:11Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:30:11Speaker 02

  But you.

• 1:30:12Speaker 00

  Our defense plays a lot better at home.

• 1:30:13Speaker 02

  But you also declare before the game, like, we are not going to pass the ball. So they know that you're going to be running the football.

• 1:30:19Speaker 00

  I think we could.

• 1:30:20Speaker 02

  You might not be wrong, because.

• 1:30:22Speaker 00

  I think the way he runs the football, the, the schemes and, and the way he gets guys blocked up, it's, it's erotic.

• 1:30:29Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:30:29Speaker 00

  Yeah. All right. So memes, who do you have next week?

• 1:30:32Speaker 04

  So next week is the Browns.

• 1:30:33Speaker 00

  That's a trap game for the Browns.

• 1:30:35Speaker 04

  Sure. Yeah.

• 1:30:35Speaker 00

  According to Dom.

• 1:30:38Speaker 04

  The next four games is like what you'll see about Aaron Glenn.

• 1:30:42Speaker 00

  So you think he's getting fired?

• 1:30:46Speaker 04

  By the end of the season, I think if he doesn't win some games, you have to.

• 1:30:51Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:30:52Speaker 04

  Otherwise, you're just doing the same thing you did with Todd Bowles. Like, they brought Todd Bowles back, drafted Sam Darnold, then fired Todd Bowles, then brought in.

• 1:31:00Speaker 00

  Right. You get it all mixed up.

• 1:31:02Speaker 04

  You just gotta, you gotta do one clean sweep.

• 1:31:05Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 1:31:07Speaker 00

  Although, the Bears are, the Bears are a case study in that it can actually work out. You just have to hire Ben Johnson. Cause we did fuck that up. We did the draft Caleb Williams, keep Eberflus.

• 1:31:18Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:31:20Speaker 00

  That was a year from hell. But then you gotta find your Ben Johnson.

• 1:31:24Speaker 04

  Yeah, but, yes, no, no, you're correct. No, but. The but is for that other stat you brought up. Like, all those coaches have QBs.

• 1:31:32Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:31:32Speaker 04

  Except Harbaugh.

• 1:31:33Speaker 02

  Right. Well, I mean Kirk Cousins, he's good quarterback. I wouldn't say he's like a superstar quarterback.

• 1:31:39Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:31:40Speaker 04

  Yeah, but that's another Ben Johnson. Just know, he just knows his system. He always starts off hot. He had Derek Carr put up 40 points a game.

• 1:31:46Speaker 02

  Do you think the Jets got scared away from offensive head coaches after Adam Gase?

• 1:31:52Speaker 04

  I think so. I also think nobody wanted to coach the Jets in that last cycle.

• 1:31:56Speaker 02

  Hmm. Yeah.

• 1:31:58Speaker 04

  But, let's just say hypothetically, he's not coaching at the end of the season. I think they're the number one job.

• 1:32:03Speaker 00

  Ooh. I mean, the draft picks.

• 1:32:05Speaker 04

  Three first round picks, you have 100 million, you have talent on the team. I'm not saying they have tons of human sacrifice, but.

• 1:32:11Speaker 00

  The draft picks, I think right now, what are they like, the two, the 10th and the 13th or something like that?

• 1:32:18Speaker 04

  It's like 715, 16.

• 1:32:21Speaker 00

  Oh, it's that? I thought it was, I thought it was higher than that. Oh, oh, yeah, you're right. You're right. No, 712 and 13.

• 1:32:28Speaker 04

  Close.

• 1:32:29Speaker 00

  That's pretty, pretty damn good though.

• 1:32:30Speaker 02

  What teams are those coming from?

• 1:32:31Speaker 00

  Uh, the Cowboys and the Colts.

• 1:32:33Speaker 04

  And the Packers.

• 1:32:34Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:32:35Speaker 04

  We have the better of the Cowboys or Packers.

• 1:32:38Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 1:32:38Speaker 04

  But I'm, I'm rooting for him.

• 1:32:40Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:32:40Speaker 04

  You just gotta, like, if, if, all the guys in the locker room love him.

• 1:32:45Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:32:45Speaker 04

  You're coming out next week and you're, you're beating down the Browns. But if you, if they don't, and they just lay another egg, then it's.

• 1:32:52Speaker 00

  Can I also say something that sounds very weird when I give you the stats of like, the Bears didn't punt and they had 34 first downs and to the Jets 32? The Jets defense wasn't that bad today. Like, they, they just never got off the field. The, the, the, the, the offense never gave them a chance to play complimentary football. But, I mean, that stat of two TDs in the red zone out of seven trips, like, that's a pretty good defensive effort for the amount of yards that we had.

• 1:33:22Speaker 04

  Yeah, but that's also on the defense. You gotta get off.

• 1:33:24Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:33:24Speaker 04

  At, at some point.

• 1:33:26Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:33:26Speaker 02

  Mims, what would you say, what if Aaron Glenn accepted a demotion and came back next year defensive coordinator?

• 1:33:34Speaker 04

  And we got a head coach? Yeah, for sure. Come on back.

• 1:33:36Speaker 02

  Virginia Tech did that. Got James Franklin, hired their, their former head coach as what, defense coordinator, right?

• 1:33:44Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:33:44Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:33:46Speaker 04

  I love, I love that.

• 1:33:48Speaker 02

  Some guys just gotta learn, like, it's okay to be a coordinator. Being a head coach is hard.

• 1:33:53Speaker 00

  Now the Bears have Packers this week. We'll see. In Lambeau.

• 1:33:56Speaker 04

  Who's line?

• 1:33:57Speaker 02

  Ooh, what's the spread? Going to Lambeau?

• 1:33:59Speaker 00

  I mean, I think the Bears.

• 1:34:01Speaker 02

  I think the Bears are probably favorite. Three point favorites, I'm gonna say.

• 1:34:04Speaker 00

  I'm gonna say.

• 1:34:05Speaker 02

  Bears minus three.

• 1:34:06Speaker 04

  I'm gonna say Caleb comes back.

• 1:34:07Speaker 00

  I'm gonna say a pick them or one, uh, say one and a half. No. Yeah, one and a half.

• 1:34:14Speaker 00

  Bears minus two and a half. Ooh, okay.

• 1:34:16Speaker 02

  And Big Cat, that's gotta be America's game of the week, right?

• 1:34:19Speaker 00

  It's not. We got demoted.

• 1:34:22Speaker 02

  Here's Packers.

• 1:34:22Speaker 00

  We got demoted. It's a perfect demotion too, because you can, both sides can point to each other, like, oh, it's because Caleb's not playing. Oh, no, it's because the Packers fucking suck.

• 1:34:31Speaker 02

  Packers stink.

• 1:34:31Speaker 00

  Yeah. Uh, but I'm very excited about the Bears. And Ben Johnson, he's, he's everything.

• 1:34:35Speaker 02

  Like, if they'd known that Case Keenum was gonna play, they'd probably move that back to.

• 1:34:39Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:34:39Speaker 02

  425.

• 1:34:40Speaker 00

  I honestly, I think they'll stick with Tyson Bajian. I really do.

• 1:34:43Speaker 02

  I do, I think that they will too, yeah.

• 1:34:45Speaker 00

  Cause I, I also think like, you need, Case Keenum is, was really good. Case Keenum's 38 years old. If, if, God forbid, something really bad happens and you need a quarterback for the rest of the year, it's probably gonna have to be the younger guy.

• 1:34:57Speaker 02

  Yeah. And, and also like, Case Keenum can play and play very well when everything around him works. But like, if something breaks down.

• 1:35:05Speaker 00

  Right.

• 1:35:05Speaker 02

  He's not gonna be the greatest guy to improvise his way out of it. Tyson Bajian at least has that ability.

• 1:35:10Speaker 00

  He's gotta get rid of the ball a little bit faster. He found Rome. Rome, Rome had an awesome, one of his best days, so. All right, uh, before we do the next game, couple ads for you, PFT.

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• 1:37:34Speaker 00

  Okay, Packers 17, Bucks 14. Zach, are you gonna win a football game this year? Uh, as of right now, sample size says not a chance, but there's a lot of, you know, there's a lot of season left, man. Keep things positive. What was your, what was going through your head going into this game today? Were you like, hey, we actually could win this game? Cause I mean, you were in this game.

• 1:37:54Speaker 02

  You guys ran the football.

• 1:37:55Speaker 00

  Yeah. I felt pretty good going into it, cause like, the Packers haven't showed us that much this season to be like, oh, they're a force to be reckoned with or anything. It's like, yeah, let's, let's show up. Give the rookie quarterback a start, first time in a, in a league for a rookie to start the season. Yeah, Jalen Daniels. Uh, Jalen did throw two picks, but the passes he did make, there's a couple that looked good. A couple of them were like, oh damn. He's shown some. He was whipping that thing a little bit, yeah. Yeah. He has some gas for sure. Uh, he really couldn't do too much, cause I mean, honestly, the offensive play calling wasn't the best, again. Uninspirational is probably the word I would use. Hmm. If we're talking about it. Hmm. I really, really just couldn't get anything going, which is kind of a bummer.

• 1:38:37Speaker 00

  Uh, yes, my, my thoughts going into the game were a lot better than my thoughts while they're playing out the game. Now that the game is completed and we're 0-4, I really know what to think.

• 1:38:46Speaker 02

  Kind of, are you at a similar place to what they were going into the game? Or you were more optimistic?

• 1:38:51Speaker 00

  Oh, definitely more optimistic.

• 1:38:53Speaker 02

  Cause like, maybe you just have a, a surprise guy.

• 1:38:55Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:38:55Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:38:56Speaker 00

  He wants to like, prove himself, show like, hey, I can, I'm a professional quarterback. Let's get into it. Let's do this thing. Hmm. Uh, he kinda did that, kinda didn't do that at the same time, in a weird way. I don't know if that makes much sense, but that's kinda how I was feeling. I think that makes a lot of sense. And I mean, your defense played well, took the ball away. Uh, you know, that, that like, forced fumble. What did the goal line keep you in the game? Just couldn't drive the field at the end. I don't, we couldn't drive anywhere. You guys gotta get also, like, I feel like I've watched the same Bucks game three weeks in a row in Tampa. It's a. It looks exactly the same. It's kind of boring football. Yeah. It's really not that much fun to watch the last couple of weeks at all. No, no, it's not.

• 1:39:39Speaker 02

  Really, even when, when Baker was playing and playing well last year, it was still pretty boring football. Just Baker made it exciting.

• 1:39:46Speaker 00

  You get flashes. I'll hold on to flashes all day. Give us, give me a little something, something there once in a while. I'm hooked. Now, I don't know, man.

• 1:39:52Speaker 02

  Yeah, what is the Bucks' identity?

• 1:39:54Speaker 00

  Right now?

• 1:39:55Speaker 02

  Do they have an identity?

• 1:39:57Speaker 00

  Currently, as it stands, this season, identity would be

• 1:40:03Speaker 00

  like, forgettable, like.

• 1:40:04Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:40:04Speaker 00

  You know, so you meet somebody, they give you your number, you don't really save it. Yeah, painful.

• 1:40:08Speaker 02

  Yeah, just a random number in, in your phone book. Or like, in your text messages that you look back and you're like, who's this?

• 1:40:14Speaker 00

  Couple of texts back and forth, but you don't, it didn't really stick out.

• 1:40:17Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:40:18Speaker 00

  Are you, uh, are? Is Todd Bowles to me the first head coach fired? I feel like he could.

• 1:40:24Speaker 05

  There's a, I want to back him because he is the coach of the team. You want to see a team do well. I think there's a world where he does lose his job.

• 1:40:31Speaker 02

  I think, and, and quickly.

• 1:40:33Speaker 05

  And I think it would be, I'm not saying it. Some guys are saying it. If he does get fired, it would be deserving.

• 1:40:39Speaker 02

  What would you say?

• 1:40:40Speaker 05

  I would say.

• 1:40:43Speaker 05

  You gotta back your guys.

• 1:40:46Speaker 02

  Which guy?

• 1:40:47Speaker 05

  Unofficially, I'm, I would be okay if maybe we looked to move on.

• 1:40:50Speaker 02

  Cause wouldn't that be back, you'll be backing Jason Light? If they fired Todd Bowles, right?

• 1:40:55Speaker 05

  I'm down to back anybody else in the seat.

• 1:40:57Speaker 02

  Right. That's, so technically that'd be backing your guy.

• 1:41:00Speaker 05

  Yeah, that, yeah, survived.

• 1:41:01Speaker 00

  Yeah. I, uh, for the Packers, the Packers, like they won this game, but they're also still kind of a mess. And, uh, they had another really bad injury. They've had bad injury luck. Uh, they've lost, uh, a, a player to season ended, season ending injury nine different times since November 2nd of last season and eight of them were starters. Today was Edgerin Cooper, which sucks for them. Um, and they have, the Packers lead the league in, in penalties, lead the league in drops, lead the league in fumbles. Worst run game in the NFL, worst pass block rate in the NFL. They're a mess, but they didn't win the game and they're now two and two. And they have been at least 500 through first four games of a season.

• 1:41:44Speaker 00

  Every single year since 2007, which is actually now a record that, that breaks the record the Patriots had from 2002 to 2020.

• 1:41:52Speaker 02

  Is, is this true that the, um, all four losses have been by a combined 20 points?

• 1:41:57Speaker 00

  That's for the Bucks.

• 1:41:58Speaker 02

  For the Bucks. Yeah. For the Bucks.

• 1:41:59Speaker 00

  Oh yeah. The Bucks are close in every game. They covered a spread.

• 1:42:01Speaker 02

  It's been one score games.

• 1:42:02Speaker 00

  They covered a spread.

• 1:42:03Speaker 05

  There we go.

• 1:42:04Speaker 00

  First time in 12 tries, 13 tries.

• 1:42:07Speaker 02

  So you're so close. Why, why didn't Todd Bowles kick that field goal? I know it was, it was going to be long. It was going to be what? Like 63 yards?

• 1:42:14Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 1:42:14Speaker 02

  From Chase McLaughlin? Why, why, why didn't he? Cause it was what? Like fourth and 16 or something?

• 1:42:20Speaker 05

  Just love is a good kicker.

• 1:42:22Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:42:22Speaker 05

  That's not like an unimaginable thing.

• 1:42:26Speaker 05

  He'll hit those.

• 1:42:27Speaker 02

  Because I feel like. His kicking from 63, whatever, how many yards that was. Probably higher than the likelihood of, of, uh, converting that fourth down, right? Like 16 yards.

• 1:42:40Speaker 05

  Uh, certainly, definitely on the day.

• 1:42:42Speaker 02

  Yeah. That's one thing that you could point out to Todd and be like, Hey Todd.

• 1:42:46Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:42:46Speaker 02

  Is, that's your call. Cause he like, he's also the king of, in post game press conferences being like, we're going to fight.

• 1:42:53Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:42:54Speaker 02

  What are you going to do different Todd? We're going to fight. We're going to, we're going to stick together.

• 1:42:57Speaker 00

  He said that. I said, I, I, I can do more. I can always do more. We're going to fight. We're going to stick together. We're going to figure this thing out and I'll lead them to that. It's my job.

• 1:43:05Speaker 02

  He says like NPC quotes. He just has general, like copy paste. A coach might say this at one point.

• 1:43:10Speaker 00

  Hmm. Also, uh, Tristan Wirfs was asked about Todd Bowles job security and he said, no comment. Feel like that's not good. Feel like.

• 1:43:18Speaker 02

  Yeah. No comment is a lot.

• 1:43:20Speaker 00

  Feel like the, the comment should be, that's our coach.

• 1:43:23Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:43:24Speaker 00

  No comment feels. Bad.

• 1:43:28Speaker 02

  Oh, here's a good Todd Bowles post game quote. Our record shows what we are. We're 0 and 4 and until we acknowledge that and correct our own mistakes, it's going to keep happening.

• 1:43:37Speaker 00

  Hmm.

• 1:43:37Speaker 02

  So have they, have they not acknowledged that previously?

• 1:43:41Speaker 05

  I mean, you'd hope so, right? There's no way they're just finding out with, with all of us.

• 1:43:45Speaker 02

  Yeah. But maybe it's just like, they all know, but they've, they haven't openly talked about.

• 1:43:48Speaker 05

  They don't want to, oh, the, the conversation hasn't been started.

• 1:43:51Speaker 02

  Yeah. It's like if you're in a bad relationship and you know that things are going poorly, you're fighting all the time. You just like sit for hours and you like, you, you don't even talk anymore. Don't go out to dinners. There's no spark. Both sides in that relationship know.

• 1:44:03Speaker 05

  One of them might've made like.

• 1:44:04Speaker 02

  But you have to say, you have to say it sometimes.

• 1:44:06Speaker 05

  One of them made a big mistake. The other one was forgiving, but now they're kind of, they go back to it all the time.

• 1:44:11Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:44:11Speaker 05

  There's no, there's no getting back to what they once were.

• 1:44:14Speaker 02

  They should talk about being 0 and 4 is what I'm getting at.

• 1:44:16Speaker 00

  Yeah. Yeah. Did you see, uh, by the way, uh, that, uh, Matt LaFleur is getting the, the Tyler Dunn treatment right now? The, the guy who wrote the article about Caleb before the season, he now wrote an article about, about Matt LaFleur.

• 1:44:30Speaker 02

  Was it good?

• 1:44:31Speaker 00

  No. No, I just don't, listen, I'm not, I'm not questioning Tyler Dunn's, uh, like, I don't know. He probably, he, he's a, a good writer. I don't know his process. I never will, whenever someone has a piece that's just all anonymous sources, I'm like, this is bullshit. Cause it's like, you could get anyone to be anonymous source and be like, oh yeah, that guy, I hate him.

• 1:44:51Speaker 02

  And sometimes.

• 1:44:52Speaker 00

  People who worked here and just be like, oh yeah, let's do anonymous source. They, they trash everyone in this room. Like if they were anonymous, I just think it's bullshit.

• 1:44:59Speaker 02

  Over, over the years, Green Bay has been, they've fired like assistant coaches before.

• 1:45:03Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:45:03Speaker 02

  And if you fire somebody who's not doing a good job, then they're going to do whatever they can to get back at that guy.

• 1:45:08Speaker 00

  I just think, yeah, people should have to put their names behind that. If you're just going to completely trash someone. So I, I mean, we know Matt LaFleur a little bit. We've obviously had him on the show a, a few times. I think he's a, uh.

• 1:45:18Speaker 02

  You called him a pussy?

• 1:45:19Speaker 00

  Yeah, I did. And he laughed about it. So I think he could probably take a joke. Uh, but I, I, I would have as, as much as it pains me to have a Packers head coach's back. I have his back in the fact that anonymous sources, because it happened to Caleb where it's just like, and I said the same thing when it happened to Caleb. I think it's bullshit. So I'm not going to like, take, take the same article a year later and be like, haha, look. It's no, it's anonymous sourcing is, I, I just hate that shit.

• 1:45:42Speaker 02

  Something to keep an eye on, uh, the LaFleur brothers have not won on the same day.

• 1:45:47Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 1:45:48Speaker 02

  And I know it's, it's really early. It's still early into, uh.

• 1:45:52Speaker 00

  That's just, uh, the Packers, uh, lost week one.

• 1:45:55Speaker 02

  They lost week one. They lost week one. So, but just something to keep an eye on.

• 1:45:58Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:45:58Speaker 02

  Something to keep an eye on. I, I, I'm trying to figure out when they're going to win a game on the same day. It might not happen for a while.

• 1:46:04Speaker 00

  This is going to be a massive game on Sunday though, for, it feels, it's weird to say, but it feels like it's kind of, it shifted that the game feels significantly more important for the Packers in this iteration. Because of everything that happened last year, because of the heat that's on the Packers right now, Matt LaFleur. And Ben Johnson is just like, I'll just keep winning games with backup quarterbacks.

• 1:46:24Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:46:24Speaker 00

  So it, it, it does feel different going into this game where like the Packers feels like they really need it.

• 1:46:31Speaker 02

  They are going to be desperate. Yeah.

• 1:46:33Speaker 00

  Yeah. Okay. Next game, uh, we have two quick ones in the early slate. Ravens 24, Titans 18. This game was essentially Lamar Jackson was about to 50 burger the Titans, then he got rolled up on in the first half. And the Ravens held on and won, but did not cover.

• 1:46:49Speaker 02

  Uh, Lamar had like pretty much a, a perfect game in the first half.

• 1:46:52Speaker 00

  And say flowers too.

• 1:46:53Speaker 02

  He was dominant. So yeah, Lamar, did he end up 285 yards?

• 1:46:58Speaker 00

  Uh, I think it was 222, but yeah.

• 1:47:00Speaker 02

  222, 285 total. Derrick Henry had, um, only one touchdown, which I have to raise my hand and say I was wrong about that. I thought that he would go off against the Titans, but he didn't need to. This game was over when Lamar got out. Um, yeah. 15 of 20.

• 1:47:14Speaker 00

  This game was over before it started because Lamar going out, they still won.

• 1:47:18Speaker 02

  15 of 20, uh, for 222 yards, two touchdowns. Um, I think he's probably going to end up being okay. Titans sucked. They were bad. Um, Ravens, very good team, very impressive. There should be like, not necessarily comeback player of the year award, but like. An award for a guy that all of a sudden got accidentally important at his job and did a good job.

• 1:47:41Speaker 00

  Tyler Loop?

• 1:47:42Speaker 02

  So, uh, no, I was going to say the guy that played center.

• 1:47:45Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 1:47:46Speaker 02

  Vega Ione.

• 1:47:47Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:47:48Speaker 02

  So he's, he's a guard. I think he might be a rookie. Uh, but the, the Ravens lost their first two centers. So I don't think he's ever played center before. He became a center this week and played a pretty decent game.

• 1:48:00Speaker 00

  Oh, I was going to make the argument for Tyler Loop because last year could absolutely kill a kicker with the way the season ended.

• 1:48:07Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:48:08Speaker 00

  And he's now gone. He, he, he hit a 64 yarder today, which is the record for M and T Bank Stadium, which also is crazy because it wasn't, uh, Justin Tucker who had the record previously. It was, uh, Matt Wright, I believe. So that was kind of weird. But 64 yards. And then remember last week when he hit the game winner against the Cowboys. So Tyler Loop, like the Ravens just have a good kicker. I think that's just what's going to happen. There, it's, it's the, uh, Packers quarterbacks is the Ravens kickers.

• 1:48:38Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:48:38Speaker 00

  Just going Justin Tucker to Tyler Loop. The Titans are so bad and Cam Ward is now at the point, I mean, the press conference thing was crazy where he was just like, well, like I'm not going to wait for you guys. I don't know, dude. He's won three games. You gotta, you gotta wait.

• 1:48:54Speaker 02

  I should probably wait.

• 1:48:55Speaker 00

  The vibes feel really bad. Really, really bad. Sala saying that he's got PT, remember we talked about PTSD and like.

• 1:49:02Speaker 02

  You see the first interception he threw today?

• 1:49:04Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:49:04Speaker 02

  He's like, he still does the thing where he presses all the buttons.

• 1:49:08Speaker 00

  Yeah. Carnell Tate looked good though.

• 1:49:10Speaker 02

  Yeah, he did.

• 1:49:11Speaker 00

  Carnell Tate had his like breakout game, but yeah, Cam Ward, I don't know, man.

• 1:49:17Speaker 02

  Carl, I'll tell you, he's been playing good. He's been getting open a lot. Uh, but it's just, they're very limited to what they can do on offense.

• 1:49:24Speaker 00

  Yeah. And, and he, the, the press the button thing you're referring to is like, basically Cam Ward's about to get sacked and he just. Throws the ball to anyone close to him.

• 1:49:33Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:49:33Speaker 00

  That has the same jersey, but not in a, a way that a pass should be thrown.

• 1:49:37Speaker 02

  In a way, I kind of.

• 1:49:37Speaker 00

  He's just almost like shoves, he's basically like, you handle this problem.

• 1:49:41Speaker 02

  In a way, I kind of respect the way that he plays. He's, he's never really been. Outside of college, he, he was great in college, but. In his NFL career, he hasn't been a guy that's like out there physically dominating and he's never been really in the zone. But he plays like a guy that's in the zone all the time and just expects, he expects good things to happen from all of his decisions. And I don't, I don't know how you achieve that mentality, but I think it's, it's almost a little bit admirable.

• 1:50:08Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:50:08Speaker 02

  It's like, hey, next one's going in.

• 1:50:10Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:50:10Speaker 02

  Shoot or shoot.

• 1:50:11Speaker 00

  Just keep your own. But yeah, this was, this is a, a game that doesn't really. I mean, the Ravens are just better than the, than the Titans. The biggest part of this game was just, is Lamar Jackson going to be okay? Hopefully he is. I think it's probably an ankle sprain and just how long, I, I don't know. Like if this was a playoff game, I would imagine he would have played in the second half. They were playing the Titans. They were up 24 to seven and they're like, we're good enough. And, and it was like Titans had a, had a drive at the end of the game to cover the spread. And I know it looks closer than they didn't get the onside kick. But yeah, the Ravens, it was, it was never a doubt the Ravens were going to win this game. Uh, all right. Giants 36, Cardinals 24. Jameis is back.

• 1:50:51Speaker 02

  Lamar's day to day, by the way.

• 1:50:52Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:50:53Speaker 02

  Day to day right now.

• 1:50:53Speaker 00

  Okay. Which that could mean forever.

• 1:50:55Speaker 02

  Lamar's always day to day.

• 1:50:56Speaker 00

  Yeah. Uh, Jameis is back. Three touchdowns, two interceptions. Hank?

• 1:51:02Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:51:02Speaker 00

  Admit it.

• 1:51:03Speaker 05

  I'll admit it. I'll, I'll put my hand up.

• 1:51:05Speaker 00

  You said he stunk.

• 1:51:07Speaker 05

  I said he stunk. He played great today.

• 1:51:10Speaker 00

  Yes. And he said, I'm heating up and I'm starting to get better and better. Last week I was questioning if I can even throw. This week I got people talking about the Jameis Winston experience again, and he did the experience.

• 1:51:21Speaker 05

  That's a fact.

• 1:51:22Speaker 00

  Three touchdowns, two interceptions.

• 1:51:23Speaker 05

  Hand up. I'm diverted.

• 1:51:25Speaker 00

  Most games with multiple pass touchdowns and multiple interceptions over the last 10 years.

• 1:51:31Speaker 00

  Josh Allen at number five with 11, Philip Rivers tied with 11, Baker Mayfield. Third or second, sorry, tied for second with Patrick Mahomes, Jameis Winston, number one. That's a pretty good list. Jameis Winston, Patrick Mahomes, Baker Mayfield, Phil Rivers, Josh Allen. Those are elite quarterbacks.

• 1:51:48Speaker 02

  Multiple touchdowns, multiple interceptions and a post game quote referring to himself in the third person. That is the Jameis Winston hat trick.

• 1:51:56Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:51:56Speaker 02

  And he did it again. He's fully back.

• 1:51:58Speaker 00

  He's fully back.

• 1:51:58Speaker 02

  I think, I think he needed to be pushed a little bit.

• 1:52:00Speaker 00

  And the Giants are three and one.

• 1:52:02Speaker 02

  I think it did, did him some good to have nine, 2.0. Waiting in the wings behind him, pushing Jameis to be all that he can be. Also, they're playing against the Cardinals and, and as we said on Friday's show, the Cardinals should not be favorites on the road against anybody.

• 1:52:17Speaker 00

  And you see, and you see Jacoby Brissette did the thing where he was awesome in, in like the beginning of the game.

• 1:52:22Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:52:22Speaker 00

  Their offense looked awesome and then it just fell apart.

• 1:52:25Speaker 02

  Yeah. Also that.

• 1:52:26Speaker 00

  Marvin Harrison scored too. Forgot about that.

• 1:52:28Speaker 02

  Yeah. Right off the bat. And then I don't think he did anything else after that.

• 1:52:31Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:52:32Speaker 02

  The game ending pick six is such a cool play.

• 1:52:34Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:52:35Speaker 02

  Like you just get everybody celebrating at once.

• 1:52:37Speaker 00

  Got to keep going.

• 1:52:37Speaker 02

  Yeah. It's, it's a great way to end a game. The vibes could not have been any better than they were. Was it, was it Banks?

• 1:52:44Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 1:52:44Speaker 02

  Ran off the, yeah, Deontay Banks, 98 yard pick six, 11 seconds left. That's the perfect way to end, end a football game.

• 1:52:51Speaker 00

  Do we think that the Giants are good? They're three and one.

• 1:52:55Speaker 02

  Top of the division.

• 1:52:56Speaker 00

  Neighbors is back. Like he looked good today. Jameis can be, do you think the Giants are good, Hank?

• 1:53:03Speaker 02

  No.

• 1:53:03Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:53:04Speaker 02

  It's really.

• 1:53:06Speaker 00

  We just were talking about how Jameis.

• 1:53:07Speaker 02

  We're going to find out.

• 1:53:11Speaker 00

  When?

• 1:53:11Speaker 02

  This weekend.

• 1:53:12Speaker 00

  By playing.

• 1:53:14Speaker 02

  Commanders.

• 1:53:14Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah. They gotta, if they don't win, they're not good.

• 1:53:17Speaker 02

  They're not good. Yeah. It's pretty, pretty simple. Shocking. You know, who's, the commanders are favored.

• 1:53:23Speaker 05

  So then, yeah, they're not good.

• 1:53:25Speaker 03

  That's crazy.

• 1:53:25Speaker 02

  So, so Vegas does not think that the Giants are.

• 1:53:28Speaker 00

  I mean, the Giants were underdogs to the Cardinals today.

• 1:53:30Speaker 02

  Yeah. They clearly don't think that they're good if they're, if they're home dogs to the Cardinals, which is crazy.

• 1:53:35Speaker 00

  Well, I think that's also they think Jaden Daniels is playing.

• 1:53:37Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:53:38Speaker 00

  So.

• 1:53:38Speaker 02

  It is.

• 1:53:39Speaker 00

  That would make sense.

• 1:53:39Speaker 03

  Commanders beat the Super Bowl champs.

• 1:53:41Speaker 02

  That's true. But like, we don't know if the commanders are good even when Jayden Daniels is playing. Jury's still out on that one.

• 1:53:48Speaker 00

  Either way, three and one starts nice for the, for the Giants. You have to.

• 1:53:52Speaker 02

  Very nice. Yeah.

• 1:53:52Speaker 00

  Arvel Reese looks like a dude.

• 1:53:55Speaker 05

  They got, they got, they're all good, but they got good guys.

• 1:54:00Speaker 00

  Yeah. They got names.

• 1:54:01Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:54:02Speaker 00

  Their defense.

• 1:54:03Speaker 05

  And.

• 1:54:03Speaker 00

  They got guys on defense.

• 1:54:05Speaker 05

  And offense.

• 1:54:05Speaker 00

  No, yeah, absolutely.

• 1:54:07Speaker 02

  Neighbors is, I think he's just going to be a guy that, that every time he hits the ground is going to be hurt. But he's going to just stay in the game and continue making amazing catches and being awesome. Cause what do you have? Like 120 yards, 112 yards today?

• 1:54:20Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:54:21Speaker 02

  But it did feel like every time he got tackled, he, he laid on the ground. He's like, my shoulder really, really hurts, but I can't be a bitch. I can't be a bitch for Jameis.

• 1:54:30Speaker 00

  One quote that I saw that you'd never want to see from your franchise, your, your first round pick in your franchise running back. Jeremiah Love said after the game, this is probably going to be the longest year of my life.

• 1:54:45Speaker 00

  It's a tough one to, to like call your shot. I mean, I, I think he probably means it's going to be, you know, it's, it's the NFL. He's going to hit a rookie wall. This is the most games he's going to play, but still to say that is very.

• 1:54:56Speaker 02

  He's right.

• 1:54:57Speaker 00

  Yeah. It's going to be the longest year of my life.

• 1:54:59Speaker 02

  And then the year after is a leap year. So that, that's then going to become the longest.

• 1:55:03Speaker 00

  Wait, next year's a leap year?

• 1:55:04Speaker 02

  No, 2028.

• 1:55:05Speaker 00

  Got it.

• 1:55:06Speaker 02

  Yeah. So this is going to be a long year, but then he's going to be like, that was really long, but then the next year is going to be even longer.

• 1:55:11Speaker 00

  I think he's talking about, I think he's talking about the years in that it's going to be the longest year. 2027 will not be that long.

• 1:55:16Speaker 02

  This is going to be, it's going to be a long season for him.

• 1:55:19Speaker 00

  Yeah. And, and the whole like going from playing college football to the training for the draft to do all that shit.

• 1:55:25Speaker 02

  But it might be, it might be a, a good thing that the Cardinals are going to find themselves in, in some pretty deep holes because they're not going to, he's going to get a lot of touches in like the first quarters of games.

• 1:55:37Speaker 00

  No, I, I think they're, I actually, I mean, he had 14 carries today. I think they're doing the right thing of not, they're trying not to like burn him out right away.

• 1:55:45Speaker 02

  Right.

• 1:55:46Speaker 00

  What happened with the ref? Trey McBride, there was a clip, the ref just saying to Trey McBride, fuck you, fuck you.

• 1:55:52Speaker 02

  They were yelling at each other.

• 1:55:53Speaker 00

  So.

• 1:55:55Speaker 00

  Schefter said that they're investigating this. Are refs not allowed to say this?

• 1:55:59Speaker 02

  I don't think that they're supposed to say it.

• 1:56:01Speaker 00

  Supposed to and not allowed to are two different things. Supposed to, yeah, sure. I get it. But are they not allowed to? Is this ref going to get?

• 1:56:09Speaker 02

  My guess would be that they're not allowed to cuss at players.

• 1:56:11Speaker 00

  I feel like refs should be able to, but I all, but I, but similarly they shouldn't be able to throw a flag when a player cusses at them.

• 1:56:18Speaker 02

  Yeah. That's why they should wear body camps.

• 1:56:20Speaker 00

  You know what I mean?

• 1:56:20Speaker 02

  I want to hear the, the ref side of it. Like if Trey McBride was yelling at him, hey, fuck you ref.

• 1:56:25Speaker 00

  Right. He should be able to say fuck you back.

• 1:56:27Speaker 02

  I'd be okay with the ref saying, fuck you, buddy.

• 1:56:28Speaker 00

  Right. Instead of throwing a flag, I'd actually prefer the ref to yell fuck you back than throwing a flag. Right? It's kind of funny though. They had like the zoom in.

• 1:56:39Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:56:39Speaker 00

  This ref say fuck you.

• 1:56:40Speaker 02

  I'm sure refs say it all the time.

• 1:56:42Speaker 00

  Yeah. We just, we just aren't going to give any leeway to a ref because fuck them.

• 1:56:47Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:56:48Speaker 00

  You know what I mean? Like.

• 1:56:50Speaker 02

  I've never heard a ref say that to Patrick Mahomes.

• 1:56:51Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:56:52Speaker 02

  Interesting.

• 1:56:52Speaker 00

  What can you say, Max?

• 1:56:53Speaker 03

  Uh, we have one statement from resident Colton fan or Cardinals fan Colton. He said, done with Jacoby Brissette. Let's just see what Carson Beck.

• 1:57:02Speaker 00

  I agree.

• 1:57:03Speaker 02

  Sure.

• 1:57:04Speaker 00

  Jacoby Brissette is the same guy every single game. You're going to have like one or two drives that look awesome. And then it's, that's it. So. Figure out, yeah, I might as well. There's no reason. Cause Jacoby Brissette is not the future. Go throw Carson Beck out there. See what you got and then get back in the draft.

• 1:57:23Speaker 02

  They got some nice pieces though.

• 1:57:25Speaker 00

  But just do it.

• 1:57:26Speaker 02

  I think Michael Wilson, not a bad player, pretty good player.

• 1:57:28Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:57:29Speaker 02

  I think Trey McBride, awesome player. Jeremiah Love, probably going to be an awesome player.

• 1:57:33Speaker 00

  But so then have Carson Beck run the offense.

• 1:57:36Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:57:36Speaker 00

  Yeah. All right. Uh, afternoon games, Vikings 15, Dolphins 10.

• 1:57:44Speaker 00

  The Dolphins did cover. Congratulations to the Dolphins for doing that. The Dolphins have not scored more than 13 points in any of their games. Also the last two teams, so there's three teams since 2000 to go through four games without scoring 13 points. The, the teams are the 2004 Dolphins, the 2019 Dolphins, the 2026 Dolphins.

• 1:58:10Speaker 02

  That's impressive.

• 1:58:11Speaker 00

  That's so sad.

• 1:58:12Speaker 02

  As a franchise.

• 1:58:13Speaker 00

  That's really sad. They, uh, I'll say this, the Dolphins played better defensively than they have. They were getting after Kyler Murray and Jacob Rodriguez is awesome. He's a fucking, I think he had 18 tackles. Uh, he played, yeah, 78 total defensive snaps, 18 total tackles, nine solo tackles, nine stops. He's a, he's a beast. Dolphins are just not a fun watch and Vikings, their defense is awesome. Their offense still kind of sucks.

• 1:58:42Speaker 02

  Their offense does suck. They had five field goals today and since week one, their kicker, Will Reichardt, is that how you say it? Will Reichardt? Reichardt? He has outscored their offense. I think it's like 32 to six in week two, three and four. Um, and then their special teams has six points as well. So their special teams and their kicker are both at least tied, if not beating their offense in terms of points scored. The list of every team that started 4-0 that failed to score an offensive touchdown in two of the games. It's the 1922 Chicago Cardinals.

• 1:59:22Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:59:22Speaker 02

  1923 Chicago Cardinals.

• 1:59:24Speaker 00

  Wow.

• 1:59:25Speaker 02

  1934 Detroit Lions and the 2026 Minnesota Vikings.

• 1:59:31Speaker 00

  That's crazy.

• 1:59:32Speaker 02

  So the offense is not good.

• 1:59:33Speaker 00

  No.

• 1:59:34Speaker 02

  We can say now it's not good.

• 1:59:35Speaker 00

  They got over 250 yards. That, that did happen today and their, their yardage differential gets a boost because their defense suffocated the Dolphins. But yeah, I don't, it's a tough one. Kyler kind of got a little better as the game went on, like the finding TJ Hawkinson, who had 13 catches. I just don't know. If you're a Vikings fan, what are you doing watching this right now? Are you, I guess what you're saying to yourself is just, our defense is elite. Can Kyler Murray like at some point round into shape here? And Justin Jefferson obviously wasn't playing, which is a massive deal. But if Kyler Murray can, can get comfortable in KOC's offense, this could be a really good

• 2:00:18Speaker 00

  team. It's just right now their offense is so bad.

• 2:00:21Speaker 02

  It could be. It's, um, you remember that year that they had the negative point differential?

• 2:00:26Speaker 00

  Yeah. And we called them frauds and people got mad at us.

• 2:00:28Speaker 02

  People got mad. I think that, I think this year has more promise.

• 2:00:32Speaker 00

  I, yeah. Someone actually asked me when I did my fantasy corner this morning, they're like, are the Vikings frauds? And I said, no, they're not frauds. They're exact, everyone knows what the Vikings are right now. They are an elite, elite defense and a really broken offense. And if you can fix the offense, that's a good team.

• 2:00:49Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:00:50Speaker 00

  Like they have, they have something that they do that is really, really good, which is like that, that's important. If you have one, if at least you have one thing that you can fall back on, this is our identity of our team that we're going to just dominate you defensively. That's a really big step. It's just, the offense has just been a mess.

• 2:01:08Speaker 02

  Yeah. So this is, it's something that I think can be fixed because you have one of the best coaches in the NFL to fix it.

• 2:01:14Speaker 00

  Do we do that?

• 2:01:15Speaker 02

  I think so. I would say so with K O C.

• 2:01:18Speaker 00

  I don't know.

• 2:01:18Speaker 02

  I would put him in like the top 10 in terms of offensive coaches. So yeah, you can fix it. Also slightly misleading, just a little bit misleading because T G Hawkinson went down at the one yard line.

• 2:01:30Speaker 00

  Yeah, true.

• 2:01:31Speaker 02

  At the very last second.

• 2:01:32Speaker 00

  That's go down culture.

• 2:01:33Speaker 02

  This game is go down culture, which it sucked for those of us that had bet on the Vikings.

• 2:01:37Speaker 00

  Yeah, no, you're right. That should have been a touchdown.

• 2:01:39Speaker 02

  We can, we can say that Will Reichardt's, he's only outscoring the offense 32 to 12. That's really more like it.

• 2:01:48Speaker 00

  And that was what I said, like I, if this game specifically, if you're a Vikings fan, it did look like Kyler got more comfortable as the game went along. So can he, can he build off that next week?

• 2:01:58Speaker 02

  Yeah, I don't, I don't think Kyler played poorly today at all. And I think that there's room for, for growth with him too.

• 2:02:06Speaker 00

  What else do I have? Oh, the best, the real, if you missed this game, the best way I would sum it up is if you look at the fourth quarter drive charts.

• 2:02:17Speaker 00

  So the fourth quarter drive charts are, go as, as such. Minnesota 15 plays, 60 yards, eight minutes and 30 seconds. I think they got a field goal off that. Miami, three plays, two yards, one minute. My Minnesota 11 plays, 74 yards, five minutes and 41 seconds. So Miami had three offensive snaps in the fourth quarter. For, and they had the ball for one minute. That was kind of how this game went, where they just. Ollie Gordon looked good. Say that.

• 2:02:46Speaker 02

  He did. He's a big dude.

• 2:02:48Speaker 00

  Way to go, Ollie Gordon.

• 2:02:49Speaker 02

  Shout out to Malik Willis, who's just, he's just doing what he does.

• 2:02:52Speaker 00

  He's just doing it.

• 2:02:53Speaker 02

  He's just.

• 2:02:53Speaker 00

  Nine for 17 for 85 yards.

• 2:02:55Speaker 02

  Good. You know what? Great friend move by Halfley. To be like, I'm going down to Florida. They've got this plan. They need to lose a bunch of games, get a good draft pick. I like that quarterback we had in Green Bay. He's a good dude. We'll sign him for what? $40 million? He'll get paid like a starter. He'll, he'll follow through on the assignment. That's just a good friend. That's a good friend move by Coach Affleck.

• 2:03:21Speaker 00

  I'd agree. I'd agree. That's a very good friend move. Nine for 17 is a very funny stat line. We're getting to Josh Rosen.

• 2:03:28Speaker 02

  Nine for 17 with what? 85?

• 2:03:29Speaker 00

  85 yards. That's the Josh Rosen stat line. Okay. Uh, next game. This one was also a little bit of a slog. 49ers 24, Broncos 14.

• 2:03:39Speaker 00

  What? 3-3 at half? Neither offense could do anything. And then, uh, basically everyone important on the 49ers showed up. Kittle's touchdown run, which was awesome. George Kittle tore his Achilles nine months ago? Nine months ago. He was, he has four touchdowns on the year. He had a 56 yard touchdown where he ran away from everyone. It's, he's a beast. He's a freak. And the Niners, like defense was really good today. I don't know what's going on with the Broncos offense. I feel like Sean Payton, you gotta just take the play calling back. Right?

• 2:04:19Speaker 02

  I think he's, I think things can get a little more ugly than this because I think it's also gotten to the point where. So Sean Payton looks up to Bill Parcells, like, like pretty much like a football dad.

• 2:04:31Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 2:04:32Speaker 02

  And I think what he learned from Parcells was like how to delegate, how to find somebody that would be almost like an heir apparent. Because Bill Parcells did mentor a lot of people, a lot of coaches. I think Sean Payton sees like the final part of his legacy, developing a coaching tree under himself.

• 2:04:52Speaker 00

  I don't get it.

• 2:04:53Speaker 02

  And so he wants to do, he wants to do right by some of the guys that are coaching with him right now.

• 2:04:58Speaker 00

  I don't get it.

• 2:04:59Speaker 02

  I think it has to get worse before he steps back in.

• 2:05:02Speaker 00

  The.

• 2:05:02Speaker 02

  He could even, a great move would be just secretly taking it back.

• 2:05:06Speaker 00

  I, I feel like he kind of did for a minute there, maybe in the second half, cause in the first half.

• 2:05:11Speaker 02

  But that's also just, it's impossible to tell with Bo Nix.

• 2:05:13Speaker 00

  Right.

• 2:05:14Speaker 02

  Like if the play gets that much better in the second half, is it because Sean Payton secretly took back play calling? Or is it because Bo Nix exists and that's how he plays?

• 2:05:22Speaker 00

  They, they're scoring 3.25 points in the first half through four games. Uh, I think they've been shut off twice in the first half. Bo Nix just, I, I don't know what happens. He just doesn't, he'll have just long stretches in this game was like basically the entire game up until like the two minute warning. He just, there's no shots downfield. There's just no shots downfield whatsoever. I feel like that's just not, Sean Payton would be a little bit more aggressive. And I don't know. Yeah. I don't know. Davis Webb, he was asked about it, Sean Payton, and he said, it's too early to consider. It's a fair question. I appreciate it. It's tough to discuss any of that right now. That doesn't feel great.

• 2:05:57Speaker 02

  No.

• 2:05:59Speaker 00

  It's a fair question.

• 2:06:00Speaker 02

  Yeah. Well, I think it is a fair question.

• 2:06:02Speaker 00

  It's a hundred percent a fair question. Niners, by the way, are just, they're just good. They keep getting injured and they're good. Like their, their defense uh, limits the, has allowed the most or least explosives, uh, through four games. So they just don't give anyone like 10, 20 yard plays, which.

• 2:06:21Speaker 02

  Fred Warner.

• 2:06:22Speaker 00

  Yeah. Been awesome. Their offense was not great today, but another day with no sacks on Bo Nix and Bo Nix threw four games. A thousand yards, 11 touchdowns, one interception. He's probably the MVP through four.

• 2:06:33Speaker 02

  Uh, Brock Purdy.

• 2:06:34Speaker 00

  Brock Purdy. Sorry, sorry.

• 2:06:35Speaker 02

  No, no sacks and yeah, one flag today. I didn't, I didn't realize this stat till I saw it after the game. Kyle Shanahan has now coached more games for the 49ers than Walsh ever did.

• 2:06:46Speaker 00

  Wow. That is crazy.

• 2:06:47Speaker 02

  He overtook him on the list, but I, I guess they played fewer games a season, but Kyle's been there for a very long time. And I guess Walsh leaving after him, we kind of forgot that they were just kind of like new coach every couple of years for a while.

• 2:07:00Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:07:00Speaker 02

  For the 49ers. But yeah, Kyle Shanahan is like, he is firmly established as like one of the old dudes, like the old guard in the NFL now.

• 2:07:07Speaker 00

  Yeah. He's not a young whiz kid anymore.

• 2:07:10Speaker 02

  No.

• 2:07:11Speaker 00

  49ers are good. I don't know what to do with the Broncos. Anyone know what to do with Broncos? Do you guys like Bo Nix? Anyone in the booth? No? That's shaking his head. No. Broncos are boring.

• 2:07:21Speaker 02

  Dodington bones. Yeah.

• 2:07:23Speaker 00

  They should be good. Oh, Patrick Surtan got hurt today, which is a problem.

• 2:07:26Speaker 02

  Yeah. Non-contact injury. I saw one of the doctors online say muscle strain.

• 2:07:31Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 2:07:32Speaker 02

  So hopefully it's not, it's not anything too bad, but it looked really bad at the time.

• 2:07:35Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:07:37Speaker 02

  I would take if, if NFL teams had quarterback roles like Major League Baseball bullpens, I would take Bo as my closer. He's a closer, but he's not a guy that's going to go out and give you, he's not going to give you seven innings.

• 2:07:50Speaker 00

  No.

• 2:07:50Speaker 03

  Also, Jalen Waddle stinks.

• 2:07:52Speaker 00

  Oh, okay. You agree, Hank?

• 2:07:54Speaker 03

  I do.

• 2:07:55Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:07:57Speaker 02

  Why?

• 2:07:57Speaker 03

  Cause he stinks. He never, I don't know. I bet on him a couple of times and he sucks.

• 2:08:03Speaker 00

  Personal vendetta.

• 2:08:05Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:08:05Speaker 00

  I, I'm all for that, by the way. Like I, I'm number one guy. If, if someone fucks me over, I'm just like, that guy sucks forever.

• 2:08:13Speaker 03

  I, I, I know he did score a touchdown, but 35 yard, you gotta get, you gotta get more than.

• 2:08:19Speaker 00

  They don't take shots downfield. They didn't.

• 2:08:21Speaker 03

  Then why get Jalen Waddle?

• 2:08:22Speaker 00

  I know. That's what I'm saying.

• 2:08:24Speaker 05

  At all.

• 2:08:24Speaker 03

  That's what I, yeah, that's, they spent all, all this draft.

• 2:08:27Speaker 00

  I agree.

• 2:08:28Speaker 03

  Go get him. And they don't use him.

• 2:08:30Speaker 04

  He told his wife to draft him in fantasy.

• 2:08:32Speaker 00

  Yeah. It's crazy. I, if anything, I'm agreeing with you. I think it's fucking nuts. The Broncos pissed me off. They should be better.

• 2:08:40Speaker 02

  It's funny to think about, but, but Sean Payton is probably being harder on Davis Webb because his wife drafted Waddle in fantasy.

• 2:08:49Speaker 03

  Hand up. I didn't know that he went for 140 against the Jags.

• 2:08:52Speaker 02

  What the fuck are you doing?

• 2:08:53Speaker 00

  Yeah, he did go off.

• 2:08:54Speaker 03

  I didn't know he went off a week.

• 2:08:55Speaker 00

  Yeah, no, that was when they started that second half. That was with the, when the, the Broncos second half against the Jags was like, holy shit. This is the team.

• 2:09:02Speaker 02

  You're thinking about Monday night.

• 2:09:06Speaker 03

  Yeah, the Rams game really pissed me off with him and then he, and he's, he's nothing. I'm not, I'm not counting the Jags game. If you're asked me, not count.

• 2:09:15Speaker 02

  We don't count that.

• 2:09:16Speaker 00

  Niners are just really good. I thought this was a game that the Niners would maybe struggle because the Broncos defense is, is good and they, I, they, they did, they didn't look like they looked against the Cardinals and the Dolphins. But next week against Seahawks is gonna be awesome.

• 2:09:32Speaker 02

  It's gonna be a great game.

• 2:09:33Speaker 00

  Great game.

• 2:09:33Speaker 02

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• 2:11:43Speaker 00

  Okay Seahawks 30 Chargers 23 Seahawks got their groove back Chargers are the most broken team in the NFL.

• 2:11:51Speaker 02

  The uh, the game started in one of the most hilarious fashions possible.

• 2:11:55Speaker 00

  First time ever.

• 2:11:55Speaker 02

  First time ever it's happened, Justin Herbert goes out there and throws a pick, I would say it's like a pick that a rookie quarterback would throw, but that would be doing a disservice to most rookie quarterbacks. This was one of the worst interceptions I've ever seen, it was one of those where it was like right at a linebacker, but if the linebacker wasn't there, there was a defensive back that was standing in front of the receiver that was gonna have an easy, even easier interception than the linebacker did. And then Sam Donald gets the ball and throws it right back.

• 2:12:22Speaker 00

  And the Sam Donalds was funny in its own way because Sam Donald threw a pick where he actually had a lot of time and at the end he was just like, you know what, here you take it and gave it to the Chargers.

• 2:12:31Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:12:32Speaker 03

  Pickagami.

• 2:12:33Speaker 00

  Yeah, never happened. First, first offensive, first two offensive snaps of the game, pick, pick. It was so fucking funny. And yeah, I, it's good for the Seahawks, I'll, I'll start with them. They uh, Eman Wari looks all the way back, he was an absolute beast. The score is a little misleading, it was 30 to 13, uh, and then the Chargers, which credit to them fought back, got back in the game. The Seahawks running backs or, or running game was good, even though they missed their, their top two running backs in Charbonne and Jadaian Price. So it feels like Seahawks are gonna be just fine. Like I don't really know what else to say.

• 2:13:12Speaker 02

  The penalties sucked.

• 2:13:12Speaker 00

  Penalty sucked, yeah, 30 penalties for 280 yards. The Chargers are the most broken team. They haven't, yet again, they went into a game, they're 0-4, Derwin James is hurt, didn't play, Slater got hurt, Joel got hurt, Lad got hurt, they all left the game. I, they, they muff punts, they have penalties, I don't know what to say. Our guy Shane was watching the game while playing, he was, he was building a Minecraft village, I was like, what are you doing dude? He's like, this is my way that I can cope. Cause he's just so down bad.

• 2:13:48Speaker 02

  Yeah, they're down bad. Did you see one of the most bizarre post-game press conferences when they, they talked to Harbaugh about what he's thinking with the offense and McDonald?

• 2:13:57Speaker 00

  No.

• 2:13:58Speaker 02

  Or McDaniel?

• 2:13:59Speaker 00

  We say.

• 2:14:00Speaker 02

  Um, can we pull up the clip? Cause I, I can't, I can't do it justice. He kinda, he gets unplugged and kinda rebooted in the middle of the answer.

• 2:14:09Speaker 00

  By the way, Max, uh, I think you, no one has been, no one has been proven more correct than Max Solentz's big stupid pick guy take.

• 2:14:18Speaker 03

  Yeah, I mean.

• 2:14:19Speaker 02

  He also got his ass kicked today.

• 2:14:21Speaker 00

  Yeah, he did. He's a big stupid pick guy.

• 2:14:24Speaker 03

  He's a big stupid pick guy, he makes some cool throws, but at the expense of some big stupid picks and a lot of big stupid.

• 2:14:30Speaker 02

  Right, you don't give big stupid pick awards to like quarterbacks that just stink, like the worst quarterbacks in the league. You would never say that, right? You'd just be like, this guy sucks.

• 2:14:39Speaker 03

  Yeah, yes, correct.

• 2:14:42Speaker 02

  Yeah, but a guy like Herbert, big stupid pick guy.

• 2:14:46Speaker 03

  I'm trying to think who, like. Like Nathan, Nathan, although Nathan Peterman's a big stupid pick guy.

• 2:14:54Speaker 00

  No, but he's just a funny stupid pick guy.

• 2:14:56Speaker 03

  He's a funny, maybe a funny stupid pick guy.

• 2:14:58Speaker 00

  Yeah. He, uh, Herbert, by the way, is the first Chargers quarterback to throw six picks and have 10 or more sacks through four games since Ryan Leaf. That's not good. To be in the same conversation.

• 2:15:11Speaker 03

  You want me to play this clip?

• 2:15:12Speaker 02

  Yeah, play about Mike McDaniel's job security and I don't know what happened here, but.

• 2:15:16Speaker 00

  This, this team is gonna kill Harbaugh. I'm seeing his face right now, he's, he's.

• 2:15:22Speaker 02

  Well, what, what's gotta kill him is he just lost to his own son.

• 2:15:25Speaker 00

  I know.

• 2:15:25Speaker 02

  His.

• 2:15:26Speaker 00

  And he lost the brown jug.

• 2:15:28Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:15:29Speaker 00

  Okay, go ahead.

• 2:15:38Speaker 05

  Uh, like our players, like, and we have skilled coaches and we're gonna keep, keep growing, that's. No, no, no, his, his, his job is not in jeopardy.

• 2:15:51Speaker 00

  Oh man.

• 2:15:53Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:15:54Speaker 00

  He just got lost.

• 2:15:55Speaker 02

  He got lost and just kinda had to be woken back up.

• 2:15:57Speaker 00

  This game is gonna kill.

• 2:15:59Speaker 03

  Well, that was like, he wanted to say something and then his, his coach like, don't be smart, PR.

• 2:16:05Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:16:06Speaker 03

  Kicked in and he, he short circuited.

• 2:16:08Speaker 00

  Yeah. Beams, you sit next to Shane or sit one away from him, what was it like watching the game with him?

• 2:16:14Speaker 04

  I personally had to will the Chargers back into the game, cause he just didn't give a fuck.

• 2:16:22Speaker 00

  He's playing Minecraft.

• 2:16:23Speaker 03

  And memes had the over like four times.

• 2:16:25Speaker 04

  I, I was just like, come on Chargers, Chargers, Chargers, he was like, it doesn't matter.

• 2:16:29Speaker 02

  So that's, it's very mean what you did memes.

• 2:16:31Speaker 04

  No, like.

• 2:16:34Speaker 02

  He was perfectly fine not caring about the game.

• 2:16:36Speaker 04

  Yeah, but I wanna see people root for their teams.

• 2:16:37Speaker 00

  Yeah, and he.

• 2:16:38Speaker 04

  Obviously nothing matters, but like.

• 2:16:41Speaker 00

  Oh, that's a good quote. Nothing does matter.

• 2:16:44Speaker 04

  Nothing does matter, like who gives a fuck?

• 2:16:46Speaker 00

  You're right. Like what are you, we even doing right now?

• 2:16:51Speaker 04

  Well, this matters.

• 2:16:53Speaker 00

  Yeah, I know, but we're talking about, yeah, like what does this matter?

• 2:16:55Speaker 03

  Sports don't matter.

• 2:16:56Speaker 00

  They don't.

• 2:16:56Speaker 04

  Sports don't matter.

• 2:16:57Speaker 00

  They do not matter.

• 2:16:57Speaker 02

  Sports matters so much.

• 2:16:58Speaker 00

  No, but, but, but memes is correct, they do matter so much, but they don't.

• 2:17:02Speaker 02

  No, they matter, but sometimes.

• 2:17:05Speaker 00

  Nothing matters.

• 2:17:05Speaker 02

  Like the Chargers don't matter.

• 2:17:07Speaker 00

  We're all gonna die, nothing matters.

• 2:17:09Speaker 02

  I'll say sports matter, they matter a lot. The NFL matters a lot.

• 2:17:13Speaker 00

  But it doesn't.

• 2:17:13Speaker 02

  The Chargers don't really matter.

• 2:17:15Speaker 04

  Well, the concept of sport matters.

• 2:17:17Speaker 00

  Right, no, no, you could say sports matter, but like when you actually look at it, you're like, none of this matters. And that's where Shane is at right now, which we need to get him out of that.

• 2:17:26Speaker 04

  Yeah, who, I kept saying who's got it better than us, he was just like, everybody.

• 2:17:31Speaker 00

  I felt so bad for him, cause I, the, the Chargers had this comeback and I was like, get Shane in here, get Shane in here. He came into the gambling cave, he could, he, his, the, his ass hit the seat as Justin Herbert was getting strip sacked and we're like, alright Shane, we don't need you anymore.

• 2:17:52Speaker 02

  He got, like alright. He got strip sacked by a former Charger.

• 2:17:56Speaker 00

  Ah.

• 2:17:56Speaker 02

  In Wosu.

• 2:17:57Speaker 00

  Down.

• 2:17:58Speaker 02

  He was in the building.

• 2:18:00Speaker 00

  He couldn't even sit his ass down. He's just like, alright, get out of here, you're done. Sit down. Stop right now. Come on Shane. Right there, right there, right there. Sit down. Stop right now. That's how long you.

• 2:18:18Speaker 03

  That was mean that I hit him with the alright, you can leave. I'll, I'll say it, I'll say.

• 2:18:21Speaker 00

  They're so broken, man.

• 2:18:23Speaker 03

  But he could have, he, he, it was, it was funny.

• 2:18:26Speaker 00

  It was.

• 2:18:26Speaker 03

  It was like a trampoline that like he sat down and just got, went right back up.

• 2:18:30Speaker 02

  I don't know what else they can do. It's, it's, it's bad, just they're, they're a fully, they're just a disaster of a team.

• 2:18:39Speaker 00

  They're dysfunctional, they're bad, Herbert's getting killed, he doesn't look like he's having fun, he's throwing big stupid picks. Maybe they'll beat the Broncos?

• 2:18:48Speaker 02

  But in a way, that's.

• 2:18:49Speaker 00

  What?

• 2:18:50Speaker 03

  Oh, it's funny, it's, it's even funny watching without sound, he, it's.

• 2:18:54Speaker 00

  He can't, he barely get his ass down, he doesn't even get it down.

• 2:18:58Speaker 03

  It just popped right, yep, down, alright, see ya.

• 2:19:01Speaker 00

  Maybe they could beat the Broncos.

• 2:19:04Speaker 02

  I think.

• 2:19:06Speaker 00

  Without Patrick Stanton?

• 2:19:08Speaker 02

  I think it's possible. But I mean, it's.

• 2:19:12Speaker 00

  Are they gonna start trading guys? I want Cleo Mack back.

• 2:19:15Speaker 04

  That's what I was gonna say.

• 2:19:16Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:19:17Speaker 02

  I want. You think they should?

• 2:19:18Speaker 00

  Bad.

• 2:19:19Speaker 04

  Send him to a playoff team and that's perfect. You know they have Adam Gase on their staff?

• 2:19:23Speaker 00

  Yeah, I saw him, I did a jump scare when I saw him on the sideline, like whoa, how'd that happen?

• 2:19:28Speaker 04

  What a dumb fucking decision that is.

• 2:19:30Speaker 02

  I just don't, I, they're never gonna be healthy enough.

• 2:19:32Speaker 00

  Who's shit? Shane, get in here!

• 2:19:36Speaker 03

  I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I thought I was on mute.

• 2:19:39Speaker 00

  What are you doing?

• 2:19:41Speaker 03

  I, I'm looking for more angles of the Shane, of the Shane set.

• 2:19:44Speaker 00

  Oh man, yeah, I don't, I don't know what to say for Shane, for, for Chargers fans, I, I'm sorry.

• 2:19:52Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 2:19:53Speaker 00

  I apologize.

• 2:19:54Speaker 02

  It was, I don't think that cuts it anymore. I think they know, they know everything, Chargers fans know everything that we're saying about them right now.

• 2:20:02Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:20:02Speaker 02

  You can't tell a Chargers fan anything now.

• 2:20:04Speaker 00

  Play it.

• 2:20:05Speaker 02

  Play it now.

• 2:20:06Speaker 03

  Oh, it's also so funny, Hank just immediately takes the seat.

• 2:20:10Speaker 00

  Oh man. Get in here! Well Hank got up. I think you're watching the clip, uh, they restarted the clip.

• 2:20:19Speaker 03

  Oh, I thought you wanted me to watch it?

• 2:20:21Speaker 00

  No, no.

• 2:20:22Speaker 03

  Oh, you want me to watch a different, no, a different clip? Look at him leave.

• 2:20:28Speaker 03

  Hank right back in.

• 2:20:30Speaker 00

  Oh, that was Hank right back in. That's perfect.

• 2:20:34Speaker 00

  Oh, man. All right.

• 2:20:35Speaker 02

  They had corgi races at halftime. Did you see the corgi race?

• 2:20:37Speaker 00

  No.

• 2:20:38Speaker 02

  Banana dominated.

• 2:20:39Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 2:20:40Speaker 02

  And banana did the Usain Bolt where it like gets out to a lead and then turns its head around.

• 2:20:44Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 2:20:45Speaker 02

  And like smiles at him as it sprints. But it watches corgi.

• 2:20:48Speaker 00

  I feel, oh, okay, that was, oh, that's awesome.

• 2:20:51Speaker 02

  Yeah. Great performance by banana.

• 2:20:54Speaker 00

  Great performance.

• 2:20:58Speaker 00

  Corgi owners, are they?

• 2:21:01Speaker 02

  They're cat adjacent.

• 2:21:03Speaker 00

  Yeah, I was gonna say.

• 2:21:04Speaker 02

  Yeah, they're, they're crazy cat lady adjacent for sure.

• 2:21:06Speaker 00

  There are certain dogs, it's like you. I guess Bulldog is similar to Bulldogs, not, they're not like corgis, but like there are certain dog breeds where it's like you're only this dog breed.

• 2:21:17Speaker 02

  Yeah, corgi would be one of those.

• 2:21:18Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:21:18Speaker 02

  Um, doesn't the Queen of England, don't?

• 2:21:21Speaker 00

  They might have corgis.

• 2:21:22Speaker 02

  The royal family, I think they have a shitload of corgis.

• 2:21:25Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:21:25Speaker 02

  But yeah, they're kind of like, I like corgis.

• 2:21:27Speaker 00

  You know, they're cute.

• 2:21:28Speaker 02

  They're, they're like little fluffy butts. Very, very cute dogs, but yeah.

• 2:21:32Speaker 00

  Like, uh, how did they get so short?

• 2:21:35Speaker 02

  A lot of inbreeding.

• 2:21:36Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:21:37Speaker 02

  Which is where the royal family comes in, yeah.

• 2:21:39Speaker 00

  Yeah. Cause they're, they're real short.

• 2:21:42Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:21:43Speaker 00

  Real stumpy legs.

• 2:21:45Speaker 02

  Big bodies.

• 2:21:45Speaker 00

  What do they, what do they emit so?

• 2:21:47Speaker 02

  Like dwarves. Uh, the core and the gee. I don't know.

• 2:21:52Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 2:21:52Speaker 02

  I don't know what they are. Some sort of hound, maybe?

• 2:21:54Speaker 00

  I have no idea. It would be awesome if we had the guy who has Google sitting right in front of him.

• 2:21:59Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:22:00Speaker 00

  Looking up for us real quick, but it's.

• 2:22:02Speaker 03

  What do you mean? They're, they're just corgis.

• 2:22:04Speaker 00

  No, no, but they're obviously a mix of two different dogs, or maybe you know what I'm thinking of?

• 2:22:08Speaker 02

  Confirmed.

• 2:22:08Speaker 03

  Boom, how about that?

• 2:22:09Speaker 00

  No, you know what I'm thinking of?

• 2:22:11Speaker 03

  Yeah, I didn't have to look that up.

• 2:22:12Speaker 00

  All right. Good job, Zach. I'm.

• 2:22:14Speaker 03

  Good job, Max. Max was right. I didn't even need to look it up.

• 2:22:17Speaker 00

  There's, I saw a husky corgi mix. That was cool.

• 2:22:20Speaker 03

  Yeah, a husky corgi mix is a mix of a husky and a corgi.

• 2:22:23Speaker 00

  Can you look that up? I know. I wanted.

• 2:22:26Speaker 03

  So how is that the same fucking thing?

• 2:22:28Speaker 00

  Dude, I fucking know. I was wrong.

• 2:22:31Speaker 03

  Yeah, there you go.

• 2:22:33Speaker 05

  Husky corgi mix is kind of fucked up.

• 2:22:34Speaker 00

  You misspelled Husky. That's cool. That's a cool dog. That's a cool dog. Husky corgis?

• 2:22:41Speaker 02

  Those are very cool.

• 2:22:42Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:22:43Speaker 02

  They, so they, uh.

• 2:22:44Speaker 00

  My bad, Max.

• 2:22:44Speaker 02

  Cardigan Welsh corgi, over 3,000 years old. That was a Celtic tribe that brought their ancestors to Wales. So their ancestors before them were probably just like short cattle herding dogs.

• 2:22:56Speaker 00

  Got it. I thought it was just, I'm so stupid. I thought it was like a short dog and a big dog mixed and the short dog won out.

• 2:23:03Speaker 03

  I'm in on a husky corgi.

• 2:23:04Speaker 00

  I know, they're kind of cool.

• 2:23:05Speaker 03

  I would, I would love.

• 2:23:07Speaker 00

  Husky corgis are kind of cool. Can you mix a corgi with anything? Look for Bulldog corgi.

• 2:23:12Speaker 02

  I'm sure you could, yeah.

• 2:23:13Speaker 00

  No?

• 2:23:14Speaker 03

  I don't like that, the idea of that.

• 2:23:15Speaker 00

  You don't know, you didn't know what a husky corgi was until I said it.

• 2:23:19Speaker 03

  Yeah, that's fair.

• 2:23:19Speaker 02

  Core means dwarf.

• 2:23:21Speaker 00

  Oh, Bulldog corgis are cool. That's a cool dog.

• 2:23:27Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:23:28Speaker 02

  That's a good looking dog.

• 2:23:29Speaker 00

  What about Golden Retriever corgi? See how many weird corgis you can make?

• 2:23:35Speaker 00

  I bet you this is a really good looking dog. That's a good looking dog.

• 2:23:39Speaker 03

  I'm, yeah.

• 2:23:40Speaker 00

  That's a good looking dog.

• 2:23:41Speaker 02

  Looks like a mutt.

• 2:23:42Speaker 00

  So maybe I, maybe I don't like corgis, I like.

• 2:23:44Speaker 02

  Blue healer corgi.

• 2:23:46Speaker 00

  What?

• 2:23:47Speaker 03

  A what?

• 2:23:47Speaker 02

  Blue healer corgi.

• 2:23:49Speaker 03

  What's a, I don't even know what a.

• 2:23:50Speaker 02

  It's like a cattle dog. It's a cattle dog, yeah. Blue healer, dude, blue healers are awesome dogs.

• 2:23:55Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah, no, this is a cool dog.

• 2:23:56Speaker 00

  Blue healers are awesome.

• 2:23:57Speaker 02

  Blue healer corgi, I bet would make a fantastic combo.

• 2:24:00Speaker 00

  But you also, blue healers, it's messed up to own a blue healer with an apartment. Those dogs need to run.

• 2:24:06Speaker 02

  That's a good looking dog.

• 2:24:07Speaker 00

  That's good looking, eh. I mean, I, I think Husky corgi one, a Golden Retriever corgi two, then Blue healer corgi.

• 2:24:16Speaker 02

  Thoughts on a massive corgi?

• 2:24:17Speaker 00

  What?

• 2:24:18Speaker 02

  Tibet massive corgi?

• 2:24:19Speaker 00

  I'd like to see it.

• 2:24:20Speaker 02

  Work like with the, the parts?

• 2:24:23Speaker 00

  Oh shit, I might be in on Dalmatian corgis.

• 2:24:27Speaker 02

  Oh, is that Draven Shepard corgi?

• 2:24:30Speaker 00

  That's funny. That's awesome that they made.

• 2:24:32Speaker 03

  Whoa.

• 2:24:33Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's a cool dog, dude. A Dalmatian corgi. Look at the first picture. That's a cute ass dog.

• 2:24:39Speaker 03

  In on the Dalmatian corgi.

• 2:24:41Speaker 00

  You could just mix corgis with anything and make awesome dogs. I don't, again, I'm not a big corgi guy, but I think when you mix them, I'm, I'm in.

• 2:24:50Speaker 02

  Can you do, uh, can you do Basset Hound corgi?

• 2:24:53Speaker 00

  Oh, that, that's probably gonna be, that's probably too good of a dog.

• 2:24:56Speaker 02

  Droopy?

• 2:24:56Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:25:01Speaker 02

  Let's see.

• 2:25:01Speaker 00

  Please adopt, don't shop.

• 2:25:05Speaker 00

  Ah, that's a good dog.

• 2:25:05Speaker 02

  Cute looking dog. That's a cute looking dog.

• 2:25:07Speaker 00

  Cute looking dog.

• 2:25:08Speaker 03

  Dogs are the best.

• 2:25:09Speaker 00

  They really are the best.

• 2:25:10Speaker 03

  Hank hates dogs.

• 2:25:11Speaker 00

  He does. He hates dogs.

• 2:25:12Speaker 02

  Max hates dogs too.

• 2:25:13Speaker 03

  No.

• 2:25:15Speaker 03

  Hank doesn't, Max has a dog.

• 2:25:16Speaker 05

  You posted a picture of your dogs that looked like it was being held hostage the other day.

• 2:25:20Speaker 03

  Yeah, I, she was stressed about the Phillies game.

• 2:25:23Speaker 02

  Is that because you were yelling at her?

• 2:25:24Speaker 05

  Living with you, yeah.

• 2:25:24Speaker 03

  No, it was before the Phillies game.

• 2:25:26Speaker 00

  What did, what did Shane just send us?

• 2:25:28Speaker 02

  She was stressed going in. She knew how big the game was.

• 2:25:30Speaker 03

  Yeah, she's a fan. She was wearing, she was wearing Phillies gear stressed.

• 2:25:36Speaker 03

  It was hard, it was hard to, because I was trying to get a picture of her with, so you could see the Phillies and to get that, you could only get it, I could only get a side eye picture of her.

• 2:25:46Speaker 00

  Did Shane just send us a picture of Jeremiah Smith in a Chargers uniform? Is that what it's all for? Is that what he's talking about?

• 2:25:51Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:25:52Speaker 00

  He didn't Photoshop the helmet.

• 2:25:56Speaker 00

  Helmet's 19, the jersey's four.

• 2:25:58Speaker 03

  Jeremiah Smith already said he wants to go to New York.

• 2:26:00Speaker 00

  Everyone's trying to get Jeremiah Smith.

• 2:26:02Speaker 03

  But he said he wants to go to New York.

• 2:26:04Speaker 00

  He's so fucking good.

• 2:26:06Speaker 02

  Did you see which team?

• 2:26:07Speaker 03

  He wants to go to New York. That also does not, is not how the NFL draft works. Actually, sometimes it is.

• 2:26:14Speaker 00

  Draft in New York?

• 2:26:16Speaker 03

  No, he's talking about the Heisman, but he said, I want to go to New York, talking about the Heisman.

• 2:26:20Speaker 02

  Oh, God.

• 2:26:20Speaker 03

  He hooked it down. He wants to go to New York.

• 2:26:22Speaker 00

  Got it.

• 2:26:23Speaker 02

  He loves New York.

• 2:26:24Speaker 03

  Loves it. Geno Smith is his cousin.

• 2:26:26Speaker 00

  I Love New York was a great show.

• 2:26:30Speaker 00

  All right. Chiefs 30, Raiders 27 finishes us off. This, I'm impressed with the Raiders. They were in this fucking game. And if it weren't for Patrick Mahomes and the Raiders, and the Chiefs offense just shot like big plays, they had, uh, 235 of their 400 total yards were just big plays, were, were just five plays that went for 20 plus. They had the Kenneth Walker 76 yard run, the Ty Quan Thornton 55 yard pass, who then he got hurt. And that looks like he's gonna be out for a while. They're probably gonna re-sign Tyreek Hill. Uh, I was impressed with the Raiders. The only thing I wasn't impressed with Clint Kubiak, like what do we think about him taking points off the board?

• 2:27:11Speaker 02

  Didn't have as much a problem as I did with the halftime interview.

• 2:27:14Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:27:14Speaker 02

  Where he says, we're winning, we're gonna win the game. You can't say that.

• 2:27:18Speaker 00

  Well, I think he's trying to change the culture.

• 2:27:20Speaker 05

  You still can't say that.

• 2:27:21Speaker 02

  You can't say it.

• 2:27:21Speaker 00

  I know. That's why, but that's probably why he took the points off the board too. He's like, I'm, we're gonna, we're gonna beat the Chiefs. We're gonna take it to the Chiefs.

• 2:27:28Speaker 02

  I think he was probably thinking to himself like, well, my mouth wrote a big check.

• 2:27:32Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:27:33Speaker 02

  Now I gotta try to cash it.

• 2:27:35Speaker 00

  I think the Chiefs, I mean, the Raiders, like they were in this game.

• 2:27:38Speaker 02

  They were.

• 2:27:39Speaker 00

  The Chiefs big play, Kenneth Walker is so fucking good.

• 2:27:41Speaker 02

  He's great.

• 2:27:42Speaker 00

  It's like.

• 2:27:44Speaker 02

  He's got 537 yards through four games. Um, that is number one over the last 10 years. Number two, Derrick Henry in 2021, when he got off that, the crazy tractor Cito start.

• 2:27:56Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:27:56Speaker 02

  510 yards. Kenneth Walker, 537 over four games. He is, uh, I think he's definitely proven that he was better than replacement running back.

• 2:28:05Speaker 00

  Yeah. Do you think John Schneider's is like, shit, I fucked that up?

• 2:28:08Speaker 02

  Probably, but, but also. I mean, Chiefs did pay him a lot of money.

• 2:28:14Speaker 00

  Yeah, definitely.

• 2:28:15Speaker 02

  And.

• 2:28:17Speaker 02

  I think ideally they would have liked to keep him.

• 2:28:19Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:28:19Speaker 02

  They, there's gotta be like a little bit of regret there.

• 2:28:21Speaker 00

  Yeah, but this was, yeah, the, the Chiefs had big plays when it mattered. And, uh, the Raiders, I think, the Raiders are pretty funny that they, they're basically like building the whole plane out of tight ends. They, they just had, they have three tight ends and they just throw them the ball. They had, uh, 16 catches, 200 yards, two touchdowns between the three tight ends.

• 2:28:42Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:28:42Speaker 00

  Kind of like it.

• 2:28:43Speaker 02

  Who, who is the one guy that hasn't?

• 2:28:44Speaker 00

  Ian Thomas.

• 2:28:45Speaker 02

  Ian Thomas. Ian Thomas hasn't caught a pass since what, 2021?

• 2:28:48Speaker 00

  He caught two and a touchdown today, yeah.

• 2:28:50Speaker 02

  Or he hasn't caught a touchdown pass since 2021. And, uh, today, they were just like, we're gonna build, yeah, we're gonna, we're gonna hit Ian Thomas in the red zone.

• 2:28:59Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:28:59Speaker 02

  And, yeah, the, the Raiders run a very, very fun offense. It's creative, which is something it's, it's kind of shocking to see.

• 2:29:06Speaker 00

  Right.

• 2:29:06Speaker 02

  But with Kirk Cousins playing like Kirk Cousins always plays. Yeah, they can be, they can be a decent team this year for sure.

• 2:29:13Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:29:14Speaker 02

  They look, and, and you know what? It's not just they're, you know, competing and they're winning some football games. They're actually a fun team to watch. I've, I've moved the Raiders.

• 2:29:22Speaker 00

  I agree.

• 2:29:23Speaker 02

  Into the fun team to watch category.

• 2:29:24Speaker 00

  I agree. And, uh, the Chiefs are just the Chiefs. They're gonna, they're gonna get the one seed. They're actually gonna keep. rattling off winds.

• 2:29:33Speaker 02

  Yeah. When is, when is Tyree Kill going to be ready?

• 2:29:36Speaker 00

  I don't know. It's a good question.

• 2:29:38Speaker 02

  I don't know, but it's, it's going to happen.

• 2:29:39Speaker 00

  Yeah. They said they were, they were reaching out to him before that injury, but they had, they had Rashi Rice.

• 2:29:44Speaker 05

  Rice, okay.

• 2:29:45Speaker 00

  I think he's got a hamstring and then Ty Quan Thornton's definitely out for a while. That, that was a compound fracture.

• 2:29:51Speaker 02

  I mean, that was also, that was adrenaline being an incredible drug because he caught the pass, got tackled, and then he stood up to celebrate. And then as he put weight on the foot, he looked down and he was like, oh, fuck, that is pointing backwards. I better, I better sit down for a second.

• 2:30:06Speaker 00

  Yes. Yes. That was, uh, that's, that was bad. That was bad. Uh, okay. I got a question for you guys.

• 2:30:14Speaker 02

  What, Max?

• 2:30:15Speaker 03

  I was gonna, I was gonna ask, what do you think the line is for Raiders at Patriots tomorrow, uh, next week? Cause I think that's a very interesting game.

• 2:30:22Speaker 02

  Oh, Raiders at Patriots. So the Raiders beat the Patriots.

• 2:30:26Speaker 00

  Well, let me do, let's do, let's do the Roback question. R H O B A C K dot com promo code take 20% off first purchase. Q Zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, roback.com promo code take roback has the best gear out there. Whose line is it anyway? Hank? Raiders, Patriots.

• 2:30:44Speaker 05

  I already looked it up.

• 2:30:45Speaker 00

  Okay. Uh, that was really good of you. Honesty. I'm going to say Patriots minus

• 2:30:54Speaker 00

  three and a half.

• 2:30:56Speaker 03

  I'm going to say two and a half.

• 2:30:57Speaker 02

  I'll take three on the dot.

• 2:30:59Speaker 05

  I'll take three and a half.

• 2:31:01Speaker 00

  It was three and a half?

• 2:31:02Speaker 05

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:31:02Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 2:31:03Speaker 05

  Good pick.

• 2:31:04Speaker 03

  Yeah. I think, I think that's, that could be a very good game.

• 2:31:07Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:31:08Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:31:08Speaker 05

  It's a letdown game. Trap game.

• 2:31:12Speaker 03

  What?

• 2:31:13Speaker 02

  You probably wish that the Raiders had won against the Chiefs.

• 2:31:17Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:31:18Speaker 00

  And you wish you had lost against the Bills.

• 2:31:20Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:31:21Speaker 05

  If, in order to win this game, yes.

• 2:31:26Speaker 05

  Overarching, no.

• 2:31:28Speaker 03

  Who's the trap game for?

• 2:31:29Speaker 05

  Patriots.

• 2:31:30Speaker 02

  Trap game for Patriots because they're going to be riding high.

• 2:31:33Speaker 03

  We play the Jets the week after.

• 2:31:35Speaker 05

  Right.

• 2:31:35Speaker 00

  So it's a look ahead spot.

• 2:31:37Speaker 03

  That's the trap game, pussy.

• 2:31:39Speaker 00

  Yeah, pussy.

• 2:31:40Speaker 02

  Or, or the Patriots are looking ahead to the Jets. Are you overlooking the Raiders because of the?

• 2:31:46Speaker 05

  Yeah, I think it's the Raiders. I think they just, they, they overlooked them last year. They're probably going to overlook them. It's, it's, um, it's going to be a tough game.

• 2:31:53Speaker 03

  The Raiders are good.

• 2:31:54Speaker 05

  I know.

• 2:31:55Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:31:56Speaker 05

  Very good.

• 2:31:56Speaker 00

  Kirkho.

• 2:31:57Speaker 05

  Kirkho bags. Feels like he's less of a dumb, big, dumb, stupid pick guy than he used to be. I kept waiting for it and he just,

• 2:32:05Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:32:05Speaker 05

  he's a little more controlled, has better command of the offense.

• 2:32:09Speaker 02

  I mean, I think the, the knock against Kirk Cousins was usually that he was just, he was too safe with the ball sometimes.

• 2:32:14Speaker 05

  But then in late in the games, I feel like he would, he would give it up.

• 2:32:20Speaker 00

  What, uh? Oh, we should talk about the night game. Bryce Young is awesome. That was an incredible game from Bryce Young. He would like,

• 2:32:28Speaker 02

  And Tet.

• 2:32:28Speaker 00

  For, yeah, but like Bryce Young from the beginning of the game, it was like, he is feeling it. He's on fire. He, he's fun to watch. He's like, does he lead the, the, the league in yards? I think he does.

• 2:32:43Speaker 02

  You know what I, I was seeing from him, especially in that first half is, uh, somehow Canales over the last two years has gotten Bryce Young to stop like being afraid in the pocket. Like he took a few hits as he was throwing the ball, like some nasty hits that were coming in. And he's just like unbothered, just like confidently stepping forward, throwing the pass, getting hit and, and like he, that going from a guy that had enormous amounts of like being shell shocked by getting hit repeatedly. That's a very tough thing to get a quarterback to just forget and get back to like throwing with confidence in the pocket.

• 2:33:18Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:33:18Speaker 02

  And somehow they've managed to do it with Bryce Young.

• 2:33:20Speaker 00

  Yeah. He, uh, yeah, like his ability, like he slides and moves up, steps up to, you know, each side. But yeah, Tet was awesome. I mean, Jalen Coker was out and their offense did not miss a beat. They, the Panthers have like a nice, they're, they're missing guys in their secondary. They have a nice young team that looks, it was fun. The jerseys were awesome. Big night for the Panthers. Bryce Young is, he's good, man. He's like really good. I, I said it on Friday. I rode the ladder and I was rooting for him. He's, he's fun to watch and I, the Lions, I, I don't, I can't really judge the Lions until their defense gets healthy. So, because everyone's going to shred them. And that's not saying Bryce Young's like Bryce Young is good, but a good quarterback will shred them.

• 2:34:04Speaker 02

  Are we worried that the, uh, the Lions just, they're not a good football team and they won't be a good football team?

• 2:34:08Speaker 00

  Uh, I think they can be a good football team. Right now they might not be.

• 2:34:16Speaker 02

  Because they, so they beat the, uh, they beat the Saints, but they almost gave that one up.

• 2:34:23Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 2:34:23Speaker 02

  To the Shuckster. And then they beat the Jets as well, but they only beat the Jets by, uh, seven points.

• 2:34:30Speaker 00

  Yeah, I think.

• 2:34:31Speaker 02

  And the Jets were like, what memes?

• 2:34:34Speaker 03

  I'm just looking.

• 2:34:36Speaker 02

  Did, did you think, did you get the impression that the Lions were a good team? When they played the Jets?

• 2:34:41Speaker 03

  Offense, very good.

• 2:34:42Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:34:42Speaker 00

  Their defense needs to get healthy. They're a problem right now. Bryce Young is leading the league in passing yards. Through four weeks.

• 2:34:50Speaker 03

  Yeah. Gino had 320 against them too.

• 2:34:52Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:34:53Speaker 03

  The Shuckster hasn't gone yet.

• 2:34:54Speaker 00

  Shuckster has not gone. Reminder, get your Shuck ladders in.

• 2:34:59Speaker 03

  He needs like three, three fifty to take the lead back.

• 2:35:03Speaker 00

  Shuck in primetime is going to rock. Do you, do you, are we a little nervous that like, are, you know, the band you've been seeing in the basement is about to go, like if he, if the Shuck, if the Shuckster goes off on Monday Night Football, people are going to be talking about Shuck.

• 2:35:20Speaker 02

  Troy's going to fall in love with it.

• 2:35:20Speaker 00

  They're going to be talking about Shuck.

• 2:35:22Speaker 03

  Here's the thing that I've learned about the Shuckster and the, in the many, many snaps that I've watched from him. He's a little bit of a gunslinger.

• 2:35:29Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:35:30Speaker 03

  So he may throw a couple, you know, you know,

• 2:35:33Speaker 02

  Don't get them all to say, don't say stupid picks.

• 2:35:35Speaker 03

  I didn't say that.

• 2:35:36Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:35:36Speaker 03

  Balls that don't look great.

• 2:35:37Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:35:38Speaker 03

  But then he's going to sling it.

• 2:35:40Speaker 00

  Sling it.

• 2:35:40Speaker 03

  So you just gotta, you, you can't be defeated when you see the, the, the throws that don't look so good.

• 2:35:46Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:35:46Speaker 03

  Because the good throws are coming.

• 2:35:47Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:35:48Speaker 03

  That's, that's my, that's my warning for

• 2:35:50Speaker 02

  In fact,

• 2:35:51Speaker 03

  the world of what they're about to see with the Shuckster.

• 2:35:53Speaker 02

  I would even say the worse the throws look at the start, the more you know it's coming.

• 2:35:58Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:35:58Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah.

• 2:35:59Speaker 02

  That's, that means,

• 2:36:00Speaker 00

  It's coming.

• 2:36:01Speaker 02

  That means he's just like holding down the button that's building up the energy for the big throws that are coming.

• 2:36:06Speaker 00

  Yeah. The supernova throw.

• 2:36:07Speaker 02

  Yeah. He's, he's, he's using all of his energy. So he can't be expected to go out there in the first quarter and, and, and look like primetime Shuck. But yeah, the worst the pick is in the first quarter, that just means that's the, that's the better his third quarter is going to be.

• 2:36:22Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm. Agreed. I'm so ready for.

• 2:36:25Speaker 02

  Troy Aikman's going to fall in love with him. Joe Buck is going to come himself.

• 2:36:29Speaker 00

  It's going to be fucking awesome. It's going to be awesome.

• 2:36:32Speaker 02

  It's going to be the stickiest booth.

• 2:36:33Speaker 00

  The Shuckster.

• 2:36:36Speaker 00

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• 2:37:22Speaker 00

  I'm going to have to do that in Madison at some point. The Badgers rolling. Uh, Hank? Your who's back of the week?

• 2:37:29Speaker 05

  Uh, my who's back of the week is dome.

• 2:37:31Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:37:32Speaker 05

  Shout out dome.

• 2:37:34Speaker 00

  Talking about Milwaukee Brewers dome.

• 2:37:36Speaker 05

  That too.

• 2:37:37Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 2:37:38Speaker 05

  The, yeah, the Brewers pods. Pods got robbed game one.

• 2:37:43Speaker 02

  Did they?

• 2:37:44Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:37:45Speaker 00

  Were you sure that was a homerun?

• 2:37:46Speaker 02

  Yeah. How'd they get robbed?

• 2:37:47Speaker 05

  I, I.

• 2:37:49Speaker 00

  So explain it to people.

• 2:37:52Speaker 05

  The Padres hit a fly ball that hit the dome, top of the, top of the roof.

• 2:37:59Speaker 02

  Either the, the ceiling or one of the support cables. Yeah.

• 2:38:02Speaker 05

  Yeah. Came down and it was caught and was ruled.

• 2:38:04Speaker 00

  A three, two game with one guy on in the, in the top of the ninth, one out. Ty France hit a ball that some saying would have gone out, hit a cable, got caught.

• 2:38:15Speaker 05

  And I'm firmly of the belief, the exit VLO and like the, the fucking baseball nerds that think it's down to an exact science. I'd like, I, I just vehemently disagree with. That ball was going out.

• 2:38:29Speaker 02

  The, the Hank cast numbers had that ball going out.

• 2:38:32Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 2:38:32Speaker 02

  By, by the eyeballs, it did look like the, the highest homerun ever hit. Cause he crushed this shit. We, we don't know actually, I, I did do a little bit of a deep dive in this. I have a couple of questions. Number one, why was the roof closed?

• 2:38:48Speaker 02

  It was a beautiful night in Milwaukee, was it not?

• 2:38:51Speaker 05

  Mm hmm.

• 2:38:52Speaker 02

  Was there a reason the roof was closed? Number two, do we know what the backspin numbers are? Cause the backs, Hank, you go in the simulator, right?

• 2:38:59Speaker 05

  Yep.

• 2:39:00Speaker 02

  What did the backspin? The higher the backspin, the shorter the total distance, right? So unless we know what the backspin numbers are, you're not going to be able to even make a guess in terms of how far it would have gone.

• 2:39:13Speaker 05

  Yeah, cause like a couple, you know, a couple thousand RPMs, like if it's going forward, that that can equate to like 20 feet, 30 feet, 40 feet.

• 2:39:23Speaker 02

  Well, it wasn't spinning forward.

• 2:39:26Speaker 05

  No, or like, like if it was, you know, 5,000 backspin versus 1,000 backspin, like that's a lot.

• 2:39:31Speaker 02

  Big difference.

• 2:39:32Speaker 05

  Huge difference. But the baseball nerds seem to like, are convinced like, oh, it would, it would have only gone 340 feet, like 100%. Like that's just not how it works.

• 2:39:42Speaker 02

  I mean, it was the highest, it, it did look like it might've been a homerun.

• 2:39:46Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:39:46Speaker 02

  Just by the eye test.

• 2:39:47Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:39:48Speaker 00

  I think it has to be over 60 degrees for the entire game for them to keep the roof open, but I don't know.

• 2:39:52Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 2:39:53Speaker 00

  Cause maybe that was, cause it was a night game.

• 2:39:54Speaker 02

  It was like a really nice.

• 2:39:55Speaker 00

  It was open today.

• 2:39:56Speaker 02

  Yeah, it was a really nice night.

• 2:39:57Speaker 05

  Yeah. But the pods got robbed and then game two, they had like a 99th percentile. I, I saw the stat. It was like four 99th percentiles. Uh, it was like 102 mile an hour pitch.

• 2:40:10Speaker 00

  Yeah, Mason Miller.

• 2:40:11Speaker 02

  Mm hmm.

• 2:40:12Speaker 05

  It's like 101 exit velo. The base runner I was running like 30 miles an hour at 30 something feet per second or something.

• 2:40:24Speaker 02

  So just the best baseball play of all time.

• 2:40:26Speaker 05

  And then the, the throw home was like one, a 99th percentile speed from the outfield.

• 2:40:33Speaker 00

  I'm not saying this is a jinx.

• 2:40:35Speaker 05

  They kind of choked game two.

• 2:40:36Speaker 00

  Yeah, I'm not saying this is a jinx or anything. The Brewers are going to win the World Series. They're, they, they have team of destiny vibes. They won 103 games. They got guys who step up in big moments. They got a dome that's, that helps them when they need it. Like, yeah, that was the, the way they, they won these two games feels very different.

• 2:40:56Speaker 02

  It does feel team of destiny, the Milwaukee Brewers.

• 2:40:59Speaker 00

  Yeah. But they're good. Or you could just, yeah, they could just be the Milwaukee Brewers.

• 2:41:04Speaker 05

  32 feet per second sprint speed.

• 2:41:07Speaker 00

  No, I think they're really good. I don't, I don't think there's a lot of luck. I think they're just really fucking good.

• 2:41:10Speaker 05

  99 mile an hour throw home from Jackson Merrill.

• 2:41:14Speaker 00

  Oh, man. Yeah.

• 2:41:16Speaker 05

  Also, Christian Yelich is getting kind of dragged for not having an RBI.

• 2:41:20Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 2:41:21Speaker 05

  Bullshit.

• 2:41:22Speaker 00

  For two games?

• 2:41:24Speaker 05

  No. Like it's been.

• 2:41:27Speaker 00

  Oh, it's been a long, a lot of games.

• 2:41:28Speaker 05

  Long time. Longest, longest playoff drought without an RBI.

• 2:41:35Speaker 00

  I like Christian Yelich. He's always been good to us. He's a friend. So I wish he didn't play for the Brewers, but 80 posts, okay, that's a lot of bats.

• 2:41:42Speaker 05

  I saw.

• 2:41:43Speaker 00

  When my, when my friends have bad things happen, I just ignore it. I just am like, I'm not going to pay attention to that.

• 2:41:49Speaker 03

  But they're winning.

• 2:41:49Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:41:50Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:41:50Speaker 00

  Who cares?

• 2:41:51Speaker 05

  Tiger Woods and Phil Mickson have both won majors since Christian Yelich.

• 2:41:53Speaker 00

  Okay, that's a pet. Then when you say like that, is Hank hating our friends?

• 2:41:56Speaker 05

  I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not. I literally started the stat with people were saying, and then I said, fuck them.

• 2:42:03Speaker 03

  You didn't even need to say the stat.

• 2:42:05Speaker 02

  Yeah, it, it seemed like you, you relished it.

• 2:42:07Speaker 00

  The Brewers are up 2-0 and you were like, oh, and by the way, Christian Yelich needs to be dragged.

• 2:42:13Speaker 03

  I'm pretty sure he started that rally in the ninth.

• 2:42:16Speaker 02

  Yeah, so.

• 2:42:17Speaker 05

  He did. He's a great.

• 2:42:18Speaker 02

  Hank, you're a smart guy.

• 2:42:19Speaker 05

  Oh, this is where it's like.

• 2:42:22Speaker 02

  No, but you are.

• 2:42:23Speaker 05

  No, no, I'll remember this.

• 2:42:24Speaker 02

  Are you not a smart guy?

• 2:42:25Speaker 05

  Yeah, yeah.

• 2:42:25Speaker 02

  You're a smart guy.

• 2:42:26Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:42:26Speaker 02

  You know that RBIs, those are dependent on your teammates to be on base, right?

• 2:42:32Speaker 00

  He could have hit a homerun.

• 2:42:33Speaker 05

  Oh, you don't say.

• 2:42:33Speaker 02

  Well, yeah, obviously you could have hit a homerun, but I'm, I'm saying that RBI is not the most important stat in the world. If he's getting hits, that's good. Good for him.

• 2:42:42Speaker 03

  Yep. Yelich was the tying run in the ninth and he walked with one out.

• 2:42:49Speaker 00

  The, the Tiger Phil thing felt like a lot

• 2:42:54Speaker 00

  to throw in there.

• 2:42:56Speaker 05

  Context.

• 2:42:59Speaker 00

  Uh, all right. Other baseball real quick. White Sox, Murkami's. I mean, he's just a dude and he, the White Sox take game one in Cleveland. Very excited for the stream we're going to be having here with White Sox Dave and Tate. Uh, I think Murkami said afterwards, like, they were like, what were you feeling? He's like, I don't want to say, cause like it's, it's like dirty. What I was feeling. Also Tommy Pham, very funny to, in a win, to post on his Instagram being like, how did this ball not go out? Uh, cause he, I think he's saying that something was up with the ball. Because he had all the stats for it. He's like, it should have been a homerun. He had the crosswinds and everything.

• 2:43:39Speaker 00

  The Rays, that was an incredible game where who, oh, my, my buddy, No Escalators on Twitter said, do you know how hard it is to be the one in a one hitter and have everyone be mad at you? Because Austin Wells got the only hit for the Yankees and then got thrown out by a million miles at third base. And like, that's really what it is. He had the one and everyone hated him.

• 2:44:05Speaker 02

  He blew through the, the stop sign too.

• 2:44:07Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:44:07Speaker 02

  Like they were telling him, no, don't do this. Bad idea.

• 2:44:10Speaker 00

  Rasmussen was awesome.

• 2:44:11Speaker 03

  He was really good.

• 2:44:12Speaker 00

  Yeah, two outs.

• 2:44:13Speaker 03

  It's the cardinal rule of baseball.

• 2:44:15Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:44:15Speaker 03

  Do not make the third.

• 2:44:17Speaker 02

  And he was gone by.

• 2:44:18Speaker 00

  First or third out at third base.

• 2:44:19Speaker 02

  By a mile with his, with his poor third base coaches.

• 2:44:23Speaker 03

  You're already in scoring position at second. Stay at second.

• 2:44:27Speaker 00

  It is, it is hilarious when, when you put it into context, like he was the only, if, if he just stays at second, the, the Yankees lose and everyone's like, well, Austin Wells at least got a hit. Instead it's this fucking guy. Also very mean to put Giancarlo Stanton. Did you see that? He had to, I don't think he had an at bat since April and they threw him, they pinch hit him in the ninth, facing like 102 miles an hour.

• 2:44:53Speaker 02

  Yeah, that'll, that'll get back.

• 2:44:54Speaker 00

  No chance, but, uh, that was great. Braves won us, won a game. I think they broke, I think they had lost, uh, what was it? Seven in a row or something to the Dodgers? Uh, what was the stat? I saw a stat. Maybe that, that's wrong. Wait, uh, I don't remember. Either way, Braves had, uh, tie it 1-1. And then what series? No, that's it. That's all the series, right?

• 2:45:18Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:45:19Speaker 00

  Yeah. It's playoff baseball. It's back. I'm excited. Monday's going to be great. We've got some day baseball. It's going to be fun.

• 2:45:27Speaker 00

  PFT.

• 2:45:28Speaker 02

  Uh, my who's back of the, of the week is the US men's national team.

• 2:45:32Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:45:33Speaker 02

  Soccer's back, baby.

• 2:45:34Speaker 00

  Wait, Hank, that didn't sound like that was enthusiastic.

• 2:45:36Speaker 02

  Memes is pumped.

• 2:45:38Speaker 03

  Queen Latifah's on the screen.

• 2:45:39Speaker 02

  Oh, hell yeah. Hell yeah. We beat Mexico. Kevin Sullivan.

• 2:45:44Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:45:45Speaker 02

  Fluff you, Max.

• 2:45:47Speaker 03

  What about?

• 2:45:48Speaker 02

  Kevin Sullivan.

• 2:45:49Speaker 03

  Yeah, Kevin Sullivan, beast. He's like 15.

• 2:45:51Speaker 05

  Sully.

• 2:45:52Speaker 02

  Yeah. Sully, 35 yard goal. Pretty impressive. Back in.

• 2:45:56Speaker 03

  Wait, for the US men's?

• 2:45:57Speaker 02

  Yeah, continuing.

• 2:45:58Speaker 03

  He's playing for them?

• 2:45:59Speaker 02

  Yeah. Continuing our tradition of beating Mexico once a year and then people thinking that we're good at soccer.

• 2:46:06Speaker 05

  Not me.

• 2:46:07Speaker 02

  We're back.

• 2:46:08Speaker 00

  Nope. Not me either.

• 2:46:12Speaker 00

  Kevin Sullivan though.

• 2:46:12Speaker 02

  He said, he took a nap before the game and visualized scoring a goal.

• 2:46:15Speaker 00

  Fuck yeah.

• 2:46:16Speaker 02

  And then got in. I think he is a little bit of a dog. Just the limited stuff I've seen from him. Feel like he might be a dog.

• 2:46:22Speaker 00

  So this time it's different.

• 2:46:23Speaker 02

  It might be different.

• 2:46:25Speaker 05

  Are you allowed to say that about a minor?

• 2:46:27Speaker 02

  What?

• 2:46:28Speaker 05

  I don't know. I just, he's too young.

• 2:46:31Speaker 00

  He's an idiot.

• 2:46:35Speaker 00

  That goalie was really dumb.

• 2:46:36Speaker 02

  I don't think you can be too young to have a dog.

• 2:46:39Speaker 02

  If you have the responsibility.

• 2:46:40Speaker 03

  I'm counting this as a win for Philly.

• 2:46:41Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:46:41Speaker 00

  Yeah, there you go.

• 2:46:44Speaker 00

  Um, okay. I have two who's backs. One is, uh, Prime Day is the sixth and seventh. So Tuesday and Wednesday, 20% off Stella Blue Coffee on Amazon. Go buy on, uh, Tuesday and Wednesday. And then my other who's back, it's a who's not, who's not back? Cause we didn't talk about it. It was a Friday news dump. Tony Romo, not back. He, uh, and CBS parted ways. Open invite to Tony Romo to come to a gambling cave, uh, stream. That would be awesome. I, uh, listen, I don't,

• 2:47:19Speaker 00

  driving while drunk is really, really bad. I also think that people should be allowed to, to like, be able to come back from their mistakes. So it felt crazy that he got fired over that. Like I, I under, I understand it's bad, but.

• 2:47:33Speaker 02

  Yeah, I don't, I don't.

• 2:47:34Speaker 00

  I know you, I think I, I am a believer in second chances in life.

• 2:47:37Speaker 02

  He said that he was going to spend some time like working on his health, working with his family. I don't know what that meant that he wouldn't be able to, to do his job this year.

• 2:47:46Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:47:46Speaker 02

  Or how much time he was trying to take away. Uh, maybe that had something to do with, with him and CBS not working out.

• 2:47:53Speaker 00

  Oh no, I think CBS fired him.

• 2:47:55Speaker 02

  You just, just Stone Cold fired him for getting OWI?

• 2:47:58Speaker 00

  They were like, hey, we're not going to bring you back. Let's figure out a way where we can pay you money. You don't sue us. We mutually part ways.

• 2:48:06Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:48:07Speaker 00

  I don't, there's no way that that's, a mutual parting of ways is never mutual.

• 2:48:12Speaker 02

  Right.

• 2:48:12Speaker 00

  So.

• 2:48:13Speaker 02

  Well, it obviously would not have happened if it wasn't for the OWI.

• 2:48:16Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:48:16Speaker 02

  But what I, what I'm saying was he was going to, he was planning on not being

• 2:48:22Speaker 02

  on the air at CBS, like.

• 2:48:24Speaker 00

  But that was CBS's decision.

• 2:48:25Speaker 02

  In treatment.

• 2:48:26Speaker 00

  Well, no, CBS took him off the air before the season started. But that was CBS's decision.

• 2:48:32Speaker 02

  So I guess what I'm saying, I, I didn't know if he was going to be gone in treatment for like

• 2:48:35Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 2:48:35Speaker 02

  two months during the season or not.

• 2:48:37Speaker 00

  No, I, I think CBS was, they just were like, we're, we're done here. It feels like, and it might've been other things. It might've been, you know, the contract was too big. I don't know what, what was involved, but it definitely feels like CBS was like, we're not going to bring you back. So let's figure out a way to make this seem mutual.

• 2:48:55Speaker 02

  I think he'll get it.

• 2:48:56Speaker 00

  That's mutual.

• 2:48:56Speaker 02

  He'll be back at some point. I don't think it's going to be like a lifetime ban from TV for Tony Romo. But Marv Albert is calling games.

• 2:49:03Speaker 00

  I understand, but what? Will he be back? It's harder to be the number one, like he, he's not going to probably get the number one spot.

• 2:49:11Speaker 02

  Definitely not.

• 2:49:11Speaker 00

  So does he want it bad enough?

• 2:49:14Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:49:15Speaker 00

  He wants the number one spot. You know what I mean? That will be interesting.

• 2:49:19Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:49:20Speaker 00

  It also, I mean, Tony Romo probably wants a little bit of a break. He went straight from football to this. Like that's, it's, he's been doing it for nine years, which is kind of crazy to think about. Basically the course of this podcast. I, it'll be interesting. Yeah, there's, uh, I think there's rumors because Troy Aikman hasn't signed at ESPN. So people are like, what's going on here? Doing the wind horse fingers, but Joe Buck has. And then Greg Olson is a free agent and he wants to be a number one. Maybe some shuffling of chairs. I just know. We, we obviously criticized Tony at times. We liked having him on the show. He was awesome when he came in and we interviewed him. Uh, I just think that people should get a second chance. So that, that was, I, it felt, it read to me like a firing. I know it wasn't posed as a firing. I

• 2:50:05Speaker 00

  think CBS was like, Tony, here's your bags.

• 2:50:07Speaker 02

  I think he'll have another chance at some point. I don't know that he's gonna ever have a chance to be a number one guy.

• 2:50:12Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:50:13Speaker 02

  But he'll, he'll be calling a game at some point in the next 10 years.

• 2:50:17Speaker 00

  But welcome to, to join us in a gambling street.

• 2:50:19Speaker 02

  Yeah. Although Greg Olson, Greg Olson does deserve a shot at some number one booth somewhere.

• 2:50:24Speaker 00

  Yeah. We'll see how the, the, the decks get shuffled here. Uh, all right, Zach, finish this off. Uh, my who's back of the week is gonna be Tom Kim. Uh, Tom Kim. Yes. May have possibly dodged a bullet by three strokes. Oh, actually. Well, you never know. If you, if he would've went, there might've been bullets, might've been shots, but he got it done in the Asia games. Yep. So what happened with him? So he, uh, he's from South Korea. South Korea has mandatory military service of two years for all able-bodied males. He was coming up on that time where it's like, you either have to have a, like a medical exemption or a global sports accomplishment. It's either gold medal in

• 2:51:05Speaker 00

  the, or any medal in the Olympics or a gold medal in the Asia games. And he got the, uh, the gold medal in the Asia games for the exemption. Yeah. It's a great moment. No military for Tom. What a bunch of, the relief on his face. He said, he said he wasn't thinking too much about it going into it. He's wanted to represent his country. I think that was him kind of bearing the lead. He was definitely thinking about it a little more, right?

• 2:51:28Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:51:28Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:51:29Speaker 02

  Yeah. I, I think you go into the final day and you're in contention. Yes. A hundred percent.

• 2:51:35Speaker 00

  It's a lot of pressure.

• 2:51:36Speaker 02

  I liked, uh, my guy Bunky Perkins tweet, which was just, we need, we need more events in America where the winner gets exempt from military service.

• 2:51:45Speaker 00

  I agree with that.

• 2:51:46Speaker 02

  Like, we won't even do that for guys that go to a military academy that are really good at football.

• 2:51:50Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:51:51Speaker 02

  A lot of times we're like, hey, sorry. You, you still gotta get, go get on that sub for two years, then come talk to us.

• 2:51:56Speaker 00

  You gotta, you sign papers. You gotta go.

• 2:51:57Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:51:59Speaker 00

  Uh, all right. Good show, boys. Anything else? Any other who's backs? Max memes? No? Nothing? Didn't bring a who's back today?

• 2:52:09Speaker 03

  Never.

• 2:52:10Speaker 00

  All right, fine. Fine. Didn't want to bring a who's back. Another, uh, football Sunday in the books. We got some good guests coming up this week.

• 2:52:17Speaker 02

  Woo.

• 2:52:18Speaker 00

  Bill Burr on Friday. Possibly Ryan Rusil on Wednesday.

• 2:52:25Speaker 00

  Eli Manning on Wednesday. It's gonna be a good week. All right, numbers? 10. Do you want three?

• 2:52:32Speaker 04

  Nah, I'm gonna go with two.

• 2:52:33Speaker 00

  All right, I'll take three.

• 2:52:34Speaker 04

  Gotta get, gotta get a win.

• 2:52:36Speaker 00

  Eight.

• 2:52:36Speaker 04

  Gotta get our second.

• 2:52:37Speaker 00

  Five.

• 2:52:39Speaker 04

  I don't even know.

• 2:52:44Speaker 02

  The NHL's back.

• 2:52:46Speaker 00

  Eighty-six. Did you just say, I don't even know?

• 2:52:50Speaker 03

  Yeah, well, I normally do it off of like sports, sports guys that I like.

• 2:52:54Speaker 02

  Fifteen.

• 2:52:56Speaker 00

  What'd you guess?

• 2:52:57Speaker 03

  And then I was like, I'll go with one.

• 2:53:00Speaker 00

  Jacob the Gators. Oh.

• 2:53:03Speaker 03

  He said, Jacob the Gators. Oh.

• 2:53:08Speaker 05

  Yeah, not very good.

• 2:53:09Speaker 02

  I don't know why, but whenever we, whenever we play Missouri and Eli Drinkwitz, we become the worst football team to walk the earth. I wanted to gouge my eyes out with a, with a spork.

• 2:53:24Speaker 03

  I don't know if he'd double six, I don't know. Shane's also double.

• 2:53:39Speaker 00

  Five.

• 2:53:42Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 2:53:43Speaker 03

  What did you get?

• 2:53:44Speaker 00

  No one guessed it? They usually, they usually take five. Hank.

• 2:53:48Speaker 05

  Memes.

• 2:53:49Speaker 00

  No.

• 2:53:50Speaker 02

  Memes, no.

• 2:53:51Speaker 00

  Well, no, Hank too.

• 2:53:52Speaker 02

  Wait.

• 2:53:52Speaker 00

  Hank too.

• 2:53:53Speaker 03

  Well, Hank doesn't care.

• 2:53:54Speaker 05

  I don't give a shit.

• 2:53:54Speaker 00

  Wait, me, me and PFT both said eight at the same time. So then I'd said five.

• 2:53:59Speaker 00

  Zach got it.

• 2:54:00Speaker 02

  Zach.

• 2:54:01Speaker 00

  Let's go, Zach.

• 2:54:02Speaker 05

  Zach.

• 2:54:02Speaker 00

  Zach. Awesome job, Zach.

• 2:54:05Speaker 02

  You just weren't gonna say anything?

• 2:54:06Speaker 00

  I was trying, I was trying, I was thinking it out. And that's usually memes' number.

• 2:54:11Speaker 00

  No, no. Zach. I gave it to Hank. I shouldn't have hit, I shouldn't have pressed.

• 2:54:15Speaker 02

  This one doesn't count. This one doesn't count.

• 2:54:19Speaker 00

  Eighty-nine.

• 2:54:20Speaker 03

  Eighty-nine.

• 2:54:20Speaker 00

  Zach, how many times you got this? Uh, twice.

• 2:54:24Speaker 02

  Beast.

• 2:54:25Speaker 00

  Dude, can you help memes?

• 2:54:27Speaker 02

  Beast mode.

• 2:54:28Speaker 03

  I thought it was banned. Wait, what happened? How'd you get it the first time?

• 2:54:34Speaker 05

  Jalen Brunson.

• 2:54:34Speaker 03

  Oh, right.

• 2:54:35Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah, that's right.

• 2:54:37Speaker 04

  I ju, I did realize the other day my parking spot is also 11. Shout out Jalen Brunson.

• 2:54:41Speaker 00

  So Zach, you've gotten it twice and memes has never gotten it?

• 2:54:46Speaker 00

  Guys get it sometimes, yeah.

• 2:54:47Speaker 02

  Well, the crazy part is that.

• 2:54:48Speaker 05

  He's gonna leave here and say that Zach's bit has run its course.

• 2:54:52Speaker 00

  Start treating memes.

• 2:54:53Speaker 02

  The two times that Zach's gotten it, he's gotten it using memes' numbers.

• 2:54:56Speaker 04

  I've got now.

• 2:54:57Speaker 00

  Was that the maddest you've ever been memes?

• 2:54:59Speaker 04

  No, but I was pretty mad.

• 2:55:03Speaker 05

  What about when the Patriots beat the Jets last year and you came in with your fist clenched, wanting to fight me?

• 2:55:09Speaker 05

  Was that two years ago?

• 2:55:10Speaker 04

  What was that?

• 2:55:11Speaker 05

  I mean, two years ago.

• 2:55:13Speaker 04

  Hmm.

• 2:55:16Speaker 02

  That doesn't ring a bell.

• 2:55:17Speaker 00

  Hmm.

• 2:55:18Speaker 02

  Doesn't sound like something I would do.

• 2:55:20Speaker 00

  All right. All right. Happy birthday to Grant Hill. Happy birthday to, uh, Travis Kelsey. Happy birthday to Mario Lemieux. Happy birthday on Tuesday to Trevor Lawrence. Happy birthday to Kyle Pitts, Braxton Berrios, Richard Seymour, and to Bronny James. Love you guys. Also, happy birthday today to Tony La Russa.