Max Strus, Training Camp Updates, The Dodgers Situation Gets Weirder, Mt Rushmore of Things We Could Master Overnight + Fyre Fest

Max is on his way to his 2 week honeymoon and we’re going to miss him (00:00:00-00:04:08). Training camp updates, including stats from Hank (00:04:08-00:15:17). The Mark Walter’s thing is getting weirder and the Dodgers may be in trouble soon (00:15:17-00:24:54). Big Cat is now a finalist for Akron OC and more (00:24:54-00:39:54). Mt Rushmore of things we could master overnight (00:39:54-01:01:29). Max Strus joins the show (taped Tuesday before he was traded) to talk ball, his career, possible headbutts, Bball Paul, and his upcoming charity event on Sunday in Chicago (01:01:29-01:33:53). We finish with Fyre fest of the week. You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or Netflix. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/pardon-my-take https://barstool.link/pardon-my-take

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  Clipper.

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  Clipper. Unfortunately, we recorded with Max Strus on Tuesday. He got traded on Wednesday. We did address with him that the potential of him being traded was on the table, but awesome, awesome interview with Max Strus. He's just one of those guys who's just, he's just a regular guy who happens to be-

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  Really, really good looking guy.

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  Really, really good looking, who happens to be awesome at basketball and make a ton of money playing it. So, great interview with him. We're going to do the Mount Rushmore of things you think you could master overnight, skills you think you could master overnight. We're gonna say goodbye to Max for two weeks. We have some national sports podcasts. Oh, oh, what was that face, Hank?

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  Just looking at him.

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  Well, I mean, what was the look? You looked at him. What?

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  I'm ready to get away from him.

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  Okay, all right, we'll get into all that. We have Fyre Fest.

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  He's getting married again.

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  It's a great-

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  You can get another wedding.

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  Welcome to Pardon My Take presented by DraftKings. The crown is yours. Today is Friday, August 21st, and we gotta say goodbye to Max.

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  See you later, Max.

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  This can't be leaded.

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  This has to lead. This has to lead. What else would lead? Okay, I'll do a different opening.

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  Little League World Series kid hit a tank.

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  Well, all right, go ahead. Tell us, tell us.

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  The kid from New Jersey hit a walk off homer in the, in extra innings of, actually, I don't think it was extras. I think it was just bottom of the sixth of Little League World Series. Pimped the hell out of it, was doing the Vince Carter, it's over, rounding the bases. Absolute aura farming from that kid from New Jersey.

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  All right, that's how you end this show, see?

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  He's no Big Al. Big Al may be the best player in the history of the Little League World Series.

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  I'll say something here. I'll start with this. It's bullshit that Labor Day is September 7th this year.

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  It is a bit late.

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  It's really fucking me up. I feel like we should be, I feel like we should have college football, like not week zero, but actual week one should be next weekend. And we're still two weeks away.

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  Actual week one next weekend would be great. It is a very, it's a super late Labor Day. I don't know about where you guys come from, but where I come from, they, they were not allowed to open schools until after Labor Day.

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  My kids are going back to school to Monday.

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  Yeah, it's crazy.

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  Yeah, summer's over in my head. So where's the football?

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  Some places start in August, but you were not, because of the theme parks in Virginia, you were not allowed to open schools before Labor Day weekend.

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  Yeah, so it should be, yeah, so I'm wrestling with that where it's like summer feels over, but we still have golf to do. We still have other things to do. Max still has two weeks of vacation, which will go around. That was the lead of the show. Max, we're saying goodbye to Max.

• 4:47Speaker 01

  Well, we did a very, it's a very mean thing at Barstool Sports. I think you technically have unlimited vacation days.

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  Yep.

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  That always mean, you know what that means?

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  Can't take any.

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  Can't take any.

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  There's some training camp stuff we can talk about.

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  Oh, okay.

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  Let's talk training camp.

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  There was the Patriots Eagles joint-

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  Let's call this around the league.

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  Around the league.

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  All right.

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  Jalen Hurts has thrown like 25 interceptions, roughly.

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  Well, how many?

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  And A.J. Brown has scored-

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  Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Walk back. What does that mean?

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  25 roughly.

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  Roughly 25.

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  By my estimation.

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  Okay.

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  By my calculations.

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  Total of like every training camp practice or-

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  No, just, just in the last two days.

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  I was told in training camp, you want, you want to throw interceptions.

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  But not 25.

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  No, no, no, you can't have it both ways.

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  No, no, no.

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  I'm just reporting.

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  Whoa, yes, you can. We are very clear.

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  That's a good thing then.

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  Like less-

• 5:37Speaker 02

  That's good. Agreed. According to this podcast, it's good to throw interceptions.

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  Offside, yeah. There's a flag on the play. Wrong, Max. Listen, no training camp interceptions? That's bad. 25 roughly?

• 5:50Speaker 02

  Roughly is, is a big word there.

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  It's not really. I think it's five, six letters.

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  Bigger than your name.

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  It's true.

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  Wow.

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  Not my last name.

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  Your name's PFT.

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  Your name's, your name's T.

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  First, middle, first, middle, last.

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  Your name's not even Max.

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  It is.

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  We get into that with Strus a little bit.

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  Yeah.

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  It's not my first name.

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  Zach doesn't get enough credit for having his initials be his name. That's such a baller move.

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  It is very cool.

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  That's so cool.

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  Shout to my mom.

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  Yeah.

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  Yeah, shout out Zach's mom.

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  Well, she might, knowing, knowing you and your family, she might not have known that she spelled that way.

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  She can spell.

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  Okay.

• 6:29Speaker 02

  She can spell.

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  All right, so 25 interceptions in practice.

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  Yep. And then my stats department just sent me this. So far, A.J. Brown has scored one TD in 101s, three TDs in 2-on-2s, one TD in 11-on-11s. All TDs have been with Quinian Mitchell in coverage. So that's just around the league.

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  Oh, so he's cooking Quinian Mitchell.

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  Cooking.

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  Is that true?

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  Couple of them are up for debate.

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  A couple of TDs?

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  Of whether his feet were in bounds or not.

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  Oh, no. Max, let's cope.

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  I also-

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  All right, let's go to our next segment. When we debate, we-

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  This is what I'm gonna say.

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  It's embrace debate. Was it a touchdown or not? Training camp edition.

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  Let me, this is what I'm gonna say. I'm opting out of all training camp updates for the rest of the summer because if training camp has any indication, the Eagles are gonna be bad this year.

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  You know what?

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  Opting out.

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  Max, I, again, you have to take your headphones off for this one. This is my rule. This is my max rule. I really hate the disrespect that Jalen Hurts is getting this preseason.

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  Yeah, it's bullshit.

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  I fucking hate it because I would, I would much rather have everybody sucking his dick being like, he's a great quarterback. This offense looks incredible. The fact that everybody is doubting him, that's, I think that that's very, very bad for me as an Eagles hater. I feel like he's about to go off this season. Max, you put your headphones back on. Max, put them back on.

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  Put them back on, Max.

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  See, 25, so many interceptions.

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  So many.

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  Holy shit, that guy sucks.

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  He's opting out.

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  Yeah.

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  Does that have anything to do with the fact that you're going on vacation for two weeks right now?

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  Well, yeah, that'll be a lot easier to opt out.

• 8:03Speaker 01

  I wanna opt out.

• 8:03Speaker 02

  It's a honeymoon, by the way. It's not a-

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  Two week vacation. A two week sex vacation. Wow. Way to dunk on us, dude.

• 8:11Speaker 01

  Wow, so it's not really a vacation. You're just gonna be having sex the whole time. I'm sorry.

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  It's just a honeymoon.

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  I'm sorry, Max. That doesn't count as a vacation. You're right. I am, I'd like to opt out of training camp updates as well because every time I open up the internet, it's something else bad about my team.

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  Well, and it's injuries. Like everyone just keeps getting injuries. The Texans lost their, Jaden Higgins in, for ACL. Like that's, they have no, they, they just, every year they're like, hey, what if we just don't have receivers and the ones we do have will get hurt? He was gonna be their second receiver. It sucks. Training camp, that's my, that goes back to my first point is Labor Day's too late. Football should already have started. Just get us there.

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  And I want, like in the, in the games this weekend, I want the commanders to play like no starters whatsoever, but then Dan Quinn's like, we gotta get ready for competition. We're gonna be playing a lot of starters this weekend. It's, things are so bad in DC that there was speculation that a running back, Rashad White, that we got from Tampa in the offseason-

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  I saw this.

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  Might have hurt his foot-

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  Yeah.

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  Doing an ice bucket challenge.

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  I saw that.

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  Where like the whole team was doing the ice bucket, bucket challenge for, for Chris Johnson. Great cause, and I encourage people to donate for ALS research. But he did the ice bucket challenge after practice with a bunch of teammates. He got up and tried to run away after he got iced. And on his first step, his foot landed awkwardly and he hasn't practiced since then. I'm told he might be practicing today, which would be great. So maybe he's not actually hurt. But you know, things are bad for your team when, when they're injuring themselves potentially doing charity challenges.

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  Yeah.

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  And Zach brought up a great point last night. Zach, Zach was like, well, how do you, how do you recover from an injury that was caused by ice? Like that might be traumatic for him now. That might be a trigger.

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  I think it's more ice.

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  To put ice, but he is, he's not gonna wanna see that.

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  He's not gonna wanna feel it.

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  Yeah, he doesn't, he's scared of ice now.

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  He's got to work that out with therapists in a cold tub, probably.

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  Yeah.

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  Um, we also, uh, I'm trying to think of what other stories we have. Oh, Hank is a piece of shit and, uh, has ruined the NFL.

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  That's true. That's a good story.

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  Yeah. That's a, that's our second down. Hank is a piece of shit and he's ruined the NFL. Roger Goodell has said that he is, uh, fully planning on having a, uh, team permanently abroad. Then Florio, this was a combo, a rare combo. Hank and Florio tag team match because Hank's been just begging Roger Goodell to, to create an international, uh, team. But then Florio said that it's going to be a like in the future, it's going to be a 40-team league and there's going to be an Eastern and Western Conference.

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  And the Eastern Conference will have, uh, London. I think it was London, maybe Spain and Germany, like European teams. And the Western Conference teams will be in Australia, Japan, Malaysia. It pretty much is just everyone's nightmare and you fucked us all.

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  That's some elite fan fiction from Florio.

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  Okay. Well, you.

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  He's the goat.

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  You did that. I gotta find, I gotta find the.

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  Malaysia? I'm, I'd like to go ahead and.

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  It was incredible.

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  I'd like to, uh, fade the Malaysia Magic or whatever they're going to be called. I feel like that team's going to suck. There's just some countries that won't, will never have successful football teams.

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  All right. It was.

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  And what are we supposed to do? Like the one thing that we have, as bad as things can get in the United States, we can always tweet out the graphic that we have all the Super Bowls.

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  All right, here it is.

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  And we even have a, we got a, a Grey Cup more recently than, than Canada has a Stanley Cup.

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  I think we're going to have 40 teams playing 20 games with no preseason. That's where this is headed. That's from Mike Florio. Um, I need to find these, I need to find these Western Conference teams, but Hank, well, address it because you're a piece of shit.

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  I mean, Roger Goodell is, is trying to grow the game, get, get more eyeballs on, on our favorite sport, all of our favorite sports. Uh, I think it's great for, for us and I think it's great for the league. Again, like I, I'm looking big picture here. I'm looking at, at our fans and our, our, the potential for growth.

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  It's great. You're going to get football at all hours, all, all the time. We love football. We want all the football. You guys say that non-stop for 10 years. More football, the better. And this is that opportunity.

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  We want good football though.

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  What if they, what if they do like an NFL, you know, the, the Western Conference or whatever is, is the international conference plays in the off-season for the chance to, to make a real NFL like that, real NFL.

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  The only way.

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  You just have football all the time.

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  I could see, here's what maybe we could do. Maybe there's like an entire international division of the NFL. And then the winner of that plays against, I don't know, like, uh, one of the teams that lost in the conference finals. And, and that's, or they play against a Pro Bowl team.

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  I can't.

• 12:56Speaker 01

  How about that? How about the, that's the new Pro Bowl is the winner of that plays against an all-star team. And the winner, uh, gets one year faster free agency.

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  Hank?

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  Yeah. I think, I think more football is good. I think, I think more football, more countries. It's good for us. It's good for the league.

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  Not more countries, more football. Yes. All right. I'm calling Florio real quick. So I gotta see if he's got Malaysia on this list. This is some crazy.

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  There was one, there was one thing that Goodell said.

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  Wait, why is Colson Loveland, why is Colson Loveland trending? Is that good or bad?

• 13:29Speaker 01

  It's never good.

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  Unguardable.

• 13:31Speaker 01

  No, he's unguardable. Okay.

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  Fucking awesome. He's unguardable.

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  I'm opting into training camp.

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  You don't want to.

• 13:38Speaker 00

  Unguardable. And that's from an unbiased, uh, Caleb Williams Fan Club Twitter handle.

• 13:43Speaker 01

  Yeah. You don't want to have your, your guy trending right now.

• 13:45Speaker 02

  There's literally, there's nobody guarding him. It's.

• 13:48Speaker 00

  Yeah. Cause he's unguardable, bro.

• 13:52Speaker 02

  There's no defense.

• 13:55Speaker 00

  All right. I'll just have him text me the list. All right.

• 13:58Speaker 01

  Well, it's because he put the guy on skates so hard that he's not even in the picture anymore. He juke'd him out so hard. He didn't even show up to practice.

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  It's a drill where there's no defense.

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  All right. There, there is a quote from Goodell. So he did this interview with a former NFL player named Marcus Kuhn. And I don't know if that's any relation to John, but it was an interview with him about growing the game. And there was one thing that he said that at least we can take some solace in this if we're anti-internationalism. I'm an isolationist when it comes to the NFL.

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  Same.

• 14:28Speaker 01

  We got plenty of, make, make American football great again. That's what I say. Uh, he said, there are definitely international cities that could host a Super Bowl, but we would like to see an NFL team in such a city first. So that tells me that we're still maybe a long ways away from having.

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  Hopefully.

• 14:45Speaker 01

  An international Super Bowl.

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  I just don't want any of this Hank. You ruin everything.

• 14:50Speaker 01

  But he also said that, or I guess his, his, uh, vice president of club business, that's a great job title, by the way. Uh, Peter O'Reilly said that an international Super Bowl is not a front burner issue as of now.

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  Okay.

• 15:03Speaker 01

  So it's not front burner. It's like in the oven. It's baking.

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  It's just, yeah.

• 15:06Speaker 01

  Or like a long-term bake.

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  It's going to need, it's, it's, uh, it's, we're smoking a brisket.

• 15:11Speaker 01

  Yeah. It's like a roast.

• 15:12Speaker 03

  Yeah. Well, yeah, but maybe that's how, that's, that's what they're saying. But what is a front burner issue is getting an international team.

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  Oh, here we go. He replied, Brazil. So it's, it's like London, Munich, all those. And then Brazil, Mexico, Australia, Japan. This guy.

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  Florio.

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  All over the map.

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  Loves this shit.

• 15:32Speaker 00

  All over the map.

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  He loves this shit.

• 15:34Speaker 03

  Those are fun cities.

• 15:36Speaker 01

  Well, some of them are cities. Some of them are countries.

• 15:38Speaker 03

  Yeah. Fun.

• 15:39Speaker 01

  Actually, they're all countries.

• 15:39Speaker 00

  Yeah. Actually, yeah. They all, all four of them. Brazil, Mexico, Australia, Japan. Those would be countries.

• 15:45Speaker 03

  Fun countries.

• 15:46Speaker 00

  You're supposed to be our foreign correspondent. Are you guys ready for third down?

• 15:50Speaker 01

  I think, yeah, I think Hank might, maybe we should send him to do some fact finding in all of those countries.

• 15:55Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 15:57Speaker 03

  Nah, that'd just be a vacation.

• 15:59Speaker 01

  Yeah. You don't want that.

• 15:59Speaker 00

  You don't want to do that. All right. Third and long. Downside, off sides. Uh, this Mark Walter shit is crazy. I did a little more reading.

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  Yeah.

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  And.

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  Explain it to me.

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  Okay. He basically has just been taking out loans from his own business and running like a, uh, not a Ponzi scheme. This is all alleged obviously as well, but he's, this has just basically been fun money where he, he, he doesn't have this money and, and everyone has spent, and I, I think myself included. I probably have said it. You can probably find a clip of me saying that like, I wish, I, I know I said that I wish that Mark Walter was the owner of the Cubs because he would just spend money and everyone's mad that they spend money that they don't have. Turns out he had, he's been spending money that he doesn't have. And I feel like he might have to sell the Dodgers because he's got a check for like 20 billion come and do that he might not have. And that's why he's like ripping off sales of his assets.

• 16:56Speaker 01

  And then also, uh, Ishbia has like a margin call coming, right?

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  Yeah. Yeah. That's different because Ishbia was like.

• 17:02Speaker 01

  He might not have the money to cover.

• 17:04Speaker 00

  Yeah. He's, he didn't do anything nefarious in the way that what Mark Walters is being alleged for. Ishbia like his, his business took a downturn. You know what I mean?

• 17:14Speaker 01

  Yeah.

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  Like that's when he bought the Suns, he had, he had the financials. Mark Walters, if this is true and he was basically doing like white collar crime to buy championships, I, it, I honestly think it might be worse than the Astros.

• 17:32Speaker 01

  He should just say it was his interpreter that did it.

• 17:34Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 17:35Speaker 01

  That would probably be a good way for him to get out of this.

• 17:37Speaker 00

  It would be good, but I, I really do think it could be worse. Cause like he.

• 17:40Speaker 01

  It is crazy.

• 17:40Speaker 00

  What has been the biggest problem with baseball is everyone's like, the Dodgers are buying championships. And then what has been the response? And again, I've said the response of like, it's not, it's not their fault that they're have an owner that wants to spend money and wants to invest and win championships. Well, now if it, if, if we find out that all the money he was spending wasn't even there.

• 17:59Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 17:59Speaker 00

  This is crazy.

• 18:00Speaker 01

  So, so big cat, I don't know about you or if anybody else here has seen this TV show, but for a few years I was obsessed with the TV show, American Greed.

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  Okay.

• 18:08Speaker 01

  Ever watch that?

• 18:09Speaker 00

  Uh, I'm familiar with.

• 18:10Speaker 01

  It's a great show.

• 18:11Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 18:11Speaker 01

  Uh, basically it's always like somebody that was doing some type of financial fraud, whether it's like a financial services provider, uh, some sort of insurance agent, and they develop this book of business and they end up spending all the money that they don't actually have and.

• 18:26Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 18:26Speaker 01

  Investments that come in from people that get, uh, they, they send like fake invoices. Here's how your money's doing, but in reality that money's been transferred. And the one hallmark of all these people is they spend a shitload of money on flashy stuff.

• 18:39Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 18:39Speaker 01

  And things to show off their wealth, um, almost as a cover for the fact that they don't actually have that much money.

• 18:44Speaker 00

  Correct.

• 18:46Speaker 01

  This sounds a lot like the pattern of behavior that this guy is doing.

• 18:49Speaker 00

  And I think he had some money. He just didn't have the money that he's spending.

• 18:54Speaker 01

  Right. So he's spending all this money on all the players because no one's ever going to think that the guy that's spending 10 times as much money as everybody else is poor or might not have the money. And he's really just getting that maybe from his self-dealing.

• 19:09Speaker 00

  Yeah. So here's, here's the Joe, Joe Pompliano, uh, kind of summed it up in a way I think we can understand. Walter owns an asset management firm and insurance companies. He uses premiums at his insurance companies to make loans to companies he owns. What are you doing memes?

• 19:26Speaker 02

  No, we're saying nobody actually has this kind of money.

• 19:29Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah, or at least very few people. Alright, so he uses premiums at his insurance companies to make loans to companies he owns. This is usually okay, but you can't do it too often and you have to disclose it. Walter did it a lot and didn't disclose it. Now he's trying to unwind deals to pay back the loans because the Department of Justice is investigating him. The Lakers deal gets him a good chunk of the money, but he likely needs another few billion by year end. He can either raise money privately. Bloomberg says he is trying to do that by offering double digit yields and using his personal stake in his asset management firm as collateral. Don't understand that.

• 20:06Speaker 01

  You can never promise double digit.

• 20:07Speaker 02

  None of those words made sense.

• 20:09Speaker 00

  Don't understand that, or sell off assets to make up the difference. It's tough to tell what will happen, but I think every option is on the table, including selling Dodgers, Chelsea, Sparks, PWHL and his motorsports investment across NASCAR, IndyCar and F1. He was giving himself loans. And now he's got, now he's, now, now the check is due and he's like, fuck, I don't have this.

• 20:27Speaker 01

  Yes, that's what I was saying when that, that report came out, that it was like, he, he disclosed like four billion or three billion worth of like self dealing.

• 20:36Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 20:37Speaker 01

  And in reality, it's closer to like 25, 30 billion. So yeah, so he's saying, I can either sell people on investments and promise them double digit returns, which really you can't really do for a long term. Or you're just going to have to sell everything. This, what if this guy was the unnamed investor that was thinking about buying live?

• 20:55Speaker 00

  Hmm.

• 20:56Speaker 01

  Cause what do you get the man that has everything?

• 20:58Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 20:58Speaker 01

  He already owns the Lakers and the Dodgers. Oh, I know, an upstart, or excuse me, not an upstart.

• 21:03Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 21:03Speaker 01

  An established.

• 21:04Speaker 00

  Already here.

• 21:05Speaker 01

  World-class golf league.

• 21:07Speaker 00

  Do you guys though, uh, that, that's a good point. We can connect all the dots. Are you going to live this weekend?

• 21:12Speaker 04

  Yeah, Friday.

• 21:13Speaker 00

  Fuck yeah. So everyone tune in, uh, wherever you turn in.

• 21:16Speaker 01

  It's an end of live celebration.

• 21:17Speaker 00

  Where do you tune in?

• 21:19Speaker 04

  Uh, the live app.

• 21:21Speaker 00

  Okay. Are you going to paint your chest?

• 21:23Speaker 04

  I'm not going to paint my chest. I'll be aced up.

• 21:24Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 21:25Speaker 01

  You paint your chest, that's a shrink move.

• 21:26Speaker 04

  Yeah, that is. That'd be a big.

• 21:28Speaker 01

  Big shrink.

• 21:28Speaker 00

  Yes, yeah, you got.

• 21:29Speaker 01

  Does this count as shrinking the game if, if live folds?

• 21:32Speaker 00

  Well, I think they do it every, every week with their crowds.

• 21:34Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 21:38Speaker 00

  Alright, back to Mark Walter though. Uh, do you guys kind of agree with me? Like I, I understand that the Astros, what they did was bad. This does feel on par or maybe worse that you, you essentially are just like, if, if it's true that he did not have any of this money and he just promised all this, this cash to guys and deferred money, um, to buy championship, that's cra- that's crazy.

• 22:01Speaker 01

  That is very bad for the league. Yes.

• 22:02Speaker 00

  It's insane.

• 22:03Speaker 01

  100% if he's, if he is spending money that he ill-gotten gains to win a championship and make the league less competitive. I think any, any sort of goodwill that maybe the owners were riding on based on the Dodgers buying everybody in the upcoming like CBA negotiations. Now people, if, if it's revealed that he is actually doing this type of bad stuff, people are going to be like, fuck the owners. We want to see all their books.

• 22:26Speaker 00

  Yeah. And what if this was, I know we've talked conspiracy theories, but I've thought about it even more. Uh, and when I say thought about it, I read just a little bit more, a little, a couple more tweet threads, which they, they were too long. Like this shit is, it's way over my head. Never understand.

• 22:40Speaker 01

  Go back to 140 characters.

• 22:41Speaker 00

  Yeah. But what if, what if the rest of MLB owners, what if they all were in on this? And the fact that they knew that he was basically playing with fun, funny money and like monopoly money. But they're like, the ends justify the means and the fact that if the Dodgers keep buying these championships, the public opinion will say, we need a salary cap and those owners will get that salary cap.

• 23:04Speaker 01

  Yeah. So I was just saying, like the public opinion swinging back that other way. Um, it's, yeah, it could be weird. It could be very, this could be like extremely impactful. I don't know the other owners of the Dodgers and there, there's still some different ways that the Dodgers bring in money that, um, that other teams don't necessarily have the option to do, but this would be a major thing like their, if their main owner was, uh, is this a committing fraud?

• 23:26Speaker 00

  Yeah, to, to win championships. What were you going to say, Zach?

• 23:29Speaker 04

  I was just going to say, I don't think, I don't know if any of the owners want them looking into this, cause if you're, if all these guys are making this much money, I don't think you can be the best guy to get to that kind of heights when it comes to the numbers in the accounts. I don't know if they want like a watchful eye over like, hey, let's dig deeper into the finances of these owners of teams.

• 23:47Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 23:47Speaker 04

  Like, no, cause if you get investigated, I'm like, get out of my pockets, like stay away from us.

• 23:51Speaker 01

  Yeah, they definitely don't want any sort of oversight.

• 23:54Speaker 04

  I wouldn't think so. No. Yeah.

• 23:55Speaker 00

  No.

• 23:55Speaker 02

  I have a question.

• 23:56Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 23:57Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 23:58Speaker 00

  Wait, time out. Whoa.

• 23:59Speaker 01

  Time out.

• 24:00Speaker 00

  Time out. You're still here? I thought you were on your sex vacation.

• 24:03Speaker 02

  Stop saying, stop saying that.

• 24:04Speaker 01

  Two minute warning.

• 24:05Speaker 02

  I would prefer all of that to be stopped. Um, the players.

• 24:09Speaker 00

  It's gonna be crazy next week when we're recording the pod camp and it's like, Max is fucking right now.

• 24:13Speaker 01

  Max steps in. Time for the two minute drill.

• 24:16Speaker 02

  I'm bringing, I'm bringing my microphone.

• 24:17Speaker 01

  Um, oh, okay.

• 24:20Speaker 00

  Alright.

• 24:22Speaker 01

  You're recording it?

• 24:23Speaker 02

  It's not funny, me. That's not funny. Okay, you know what? I have nothing to say.

• 24:28Speaker 00

  No, no, no. We want your question because I love when you guys ask questions to two guys that don't really have answers, but we're going to talk about it confidently.

• 24:35Speaker 01

  We'll make it up.

• 24:35Speaker 02

  The players are, are still going to get paid, right? Like the money's going to come from somewhere. The players are still going to get their money.

• 24:42Speaker 01

  I don't know about that.

• 24:43Speaker 00

  I think.

• 24:44Speaker 04

  Well, he, he essentially took balloon payments out on players. So like, where does the money come from? It's just like.

• 24:49Speaker 00

  We're going, well, I think if he goes bankrupt, uh, they'll just like strip his whole companies. Then people will have to get in line to see who gets paid back.

• 24:58Speaker 04

  So then they get paid like in a hundred years?

• 25:00Speaker 00

  I don't know.

• 25:01Speaker 01

  I, what happens a lot of times, I think, and again, I'm kind of making this up.

• 25:05Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 25:05Speaker 01

  Um, but some investors get paid back and the majority would not.

• 25:08Speaker 00

  Yeah, you could put a lien on his house.

• 25:10Speaker 01

  Yeah, like Bernie.

• 25:10Speaker 00

  He's got an $85 million house.

• 25:12Speaker 01

  And all that shit happened to Bernie Madoff and say, say what you want about him. The man lived the high life for a long time.

• 25:17Speaker 00

  They actually did, I think, end up getting a lot of those people's money.

• 25:20Speaker 01

  Yeah, you can claw it back, but not, not everyone will be made whole.

• 25:24Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 25:25Speaker 01

  Speaking about making holes, how excited are you, Max, for this vacation?

• 25:30Speaker 02

  Uh, it's going to be, it's going to be a good vacation. We got some good destinations lined up.

• 25:34Speaker 01

  I bet you do.

• 25:35Speaker 00

  Oh, you want to go to fourth down and then we'll do Mount Rushmore?

• 25:37Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 25:38Speaker 00

  Alright. Put the fours up. It's fourth down. Uh, I've been named an Akron, uh, finalist for Akron football offensive coordinator. Oh, Hank, one of the crybabies.

• 25:50Speaker 01

  So when I saw this, my first question.

• 25:53Speaker 00

  So, yeah, okay. Let me, let me, so I think people know last week or maybe it's two weeks ago. Akron has done a contest where if you buy season tickets, you are put into a raffle. Uh, and then the winner of that raffle will get to call one offensive series against Robert Morris for Akron's first home game of the season, which I think is September 14th or somewhere around there. Uh, you get to call one series. So I, they then did the sale. I bought 18 season tickets. I'm one of the nine finalists.

• 26:28Speaker 01

  Question.

• 26:29Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 26:29Speaker 01

  Uh, PFT commenter, part of my take sports podcast.

• 26:31Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 26:33Speaker 01

  Why nine finalists?

• 26:34Speaker 02

  That was my question as well.

• 26:35Speaker 00

  There were 10 and one dropped out.

• 26:39Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 26:40Speaker 02

  One of the chances of the 10th was me and that they said, we can't have both big cat and Max. So let's just make it nine.

• 26:46Speaker 00

  No, I was talking to Dom about it.

• 26:47Speaker 04

  Completely random.

• 26:48Speaker 00

  I think, uh, you are such a troll. Uh, I, I will get to Franny Lydon in a second. Uh, Max, I was talking to, I think it was one of those situations where the 10th person, and it could have been the second person named. Uh, they were called and they're like, ooh, I don't want to be like in public.

• 27:05Speaker 01

  I don't want that smoke.

• 27:06Speaker 00

  Yeah, like I don't.

• 27:07Speaker 01

  Cause like you fuck up that drive and there's going to be people calling for your head.

• 27:10Speaker 00

  Right, right. It's like, oh shit, I don't really want this. So, uh, that was, I, I had the same exact question. I was like, why nine? He's like, oh yeah, there was 10 and then it went down to nine. Okay. Now I'll address Hank.

• 27:20Speaker 04

  Well, true. By the way, I just put up the wind, wind horse fingers.

• 27:23Speaker 00

  Yeah. But then you also said completely random with a face.

• 27:26Speaker 04

  That's what they said.

• 27:27Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 27:28Speaker 04

  I was just telling Max.

• 27:29Speaker 01

  There was a face. I can't confirm there was a face. I'm also a journalist here. I witnessed the face. Yep.

• 27:35Speaker 00

  Do you deny doing a face, sir?

• 27:39Speaker 04

  Yeah, I said it's completely random.

• 27:40Speaker 00

  Do you deny having a face?

• 27:42Speaker 04

  No.

• 27:43Speaker 00

  Okay. I, I rest my case. So what was your question?

• 27:47Speaker 04

  I didn't have a question. I literally just said, I just put up the wind horse fingers.

• 27:50Speaker 00

  No, people are, people are obviously saying it's rigged. Uh, I, listen, I asked the first thing I said to Dom when he told me that I had, was one of the 10 finalists, now nine. I was like, how'd that happen? They're like, they did it with the accounting, like it, there's all these legalese behind it. You can't rig something like this. And I was like, well, I did buy 18 tickets. Uh, the people crying, they're losers. Uh, because I don't really understand, like they should have bought 18 tickets. Also Akron wants this for publicity.

• 28:19Speaker 04

  Exactly.

• 28:20Speaker 01

  I think, I think the, uh, the campaign.

• 28:22Speaker 00

  Why didn't Pat, why didn't Pat McAfee, uh, finish in the top 10? Why didn't John Gruden?

• 28:29Speaker 00

  Like there's a lot, there's other people of note who, who bought tickets.

• 28:33Speaker 04

  I bought two tickets.

• 28:34Speaker 00

  Max bought two tickets.

• 28:35Speaker 01

  I think, yeah, a lot of people.

• 28:36Speaker 00

  I bought 18 tickets.

• 28:37Speaker 01

  I'd say probably the entire company purchased one season ticket.

• 28:40Speaker 00

  Right. So why didn't any of them win?

• 28:44Speaker 03

  Because it's random. Only nine people got picked.

• 28:47Speaker 00

  Ten.

• 28:48Speaker 01

  So how do they determine who's going to win from those nine?

• 28:50Speaker 00

  I have no idea. I have no idea. Now I want to win still very badly.

• 28:57Speaker 01

  I mean, this whole thing is very interesting, just like the entire promo and like the ins and outs of how it's going, like what Robert Morris is thinking about them giving away an offensive coordinator job for like, for one series, how the offensive coordinator at Akron feels about this, how he'd feel about it if they scored on the first drive, how the team would look if like first play of the game, pick six, fumble return for touchdown. Like the whole dynamic of having a random person, it's a great idea. It's great for publicity. But then there's so much more stuff that like, once you start unpeeling it, this whole thing could play out in a super interesting way.

• 29:33Speaker 00

  Yeah, and I would love to. Listen, I love Max. I've loved Max for a very long time. If I don't win, I'll still, I'm still going to try to go to an Akron game. By the way, the 18 season tickets I bought, I think all the season tickets we don't use get donated to charity nonprofit tickets for kids. So that's cool. And yeah, the people complaining, I don't really know what to say to them because they are, they're basically like, they just live to complain because they're mad that, that like, I got it. I went a little back and forth to someone today where he was like, a long time Akron ticket, season ticket holder should have won this. And I was just like, why shouldn't I win it? I, you did a raffle. Don't do the raffle if you don't want random people to enter.

• 30:14Speaker 00

  Just do, just give it to a long time season ticket holder. But they obviously want people, they probably made a lot of money off this. They got a lot of exposure. Good for Akron. I think it's a great contest. And I hope I win. And then I hope Shark will him to death.

• 30:27Speaker 01

  Let's just let it play out. No, no sense in being upset with a top nine. Like you've been given the.

• 30:33Speaker 00

  That's gonna be the funniest part. I'm gonna have to go back to all these people. I'm like, what do you say now, you fucking idiots?

• 30:37Speaker 01

  There should be a top six, next to the top six, and then the top four, and then reveal it on game day.

• 30:43Speaker 00

  Yeah, but I'm excited. And I also said, I was, I was interviewed by two different places. And I said that I'm bringing, they're like, who are you bringing with you? And I said, I'm bringing the entire PMT team. I don't know if Akron can afford having everyone from PMT on staff, but that's a non-negotiable. It's a big time non-negotiable.

• 31:04Speaker 00

  I think we gotta do fake Shark Wheel.

• 31:07Speaker 01

  This is good. This is good. Putting a little misdirection out there on tape right now.

• 31:10Speaker 00

  Hank, what do you think?

• 31:11Speaker 03

  Shark, no, you gotta do, you gotta do four Shark Wheels.

• 31:14Speaker 00

  Four Shark Wheels? What about one Shark Wheel? Fake Shark Wheel?

• 31:17Speaker 03

  Fake punt Shark Wheel.

• 31:18Speaker 00

  Fake punt Shark Wheel? What do you think PFT?

• 31:20Speaker 01

  I just do four straight fullback dives. Man, football.

• 31:24Speaker 00

  What are you looking at on your phone right now, Hank?

• 31:28Speaker 03

  Nothing.

• 31:31Speaker 00

  Shark Wheel. Fake Shark Wheel.

• 31:33Speaker 01

  If you just take a knee for Jesus.

• 31:36Speaker 00

  What about a fake punt? I want to win. It'd be sick. Shout out Akron. I think it's a cool thing. I really do. I think it's a cool promo. What else is going to get Akron on the map?

• 31:47Speaker 01

  Yeah, I mean, this promo already has.

• 31:49Speaker 00

  Right, right. So.

• 31:50Speaker 01

  No matter who it is, if it's you, if it's somebody else, like it's going to be a talking point.

• 31:55Speaker 00

  Well, not only that, if it's a random person, I'll be happy for that person. But I will say that if, if I win this, we will make content out of it and share it with everyone. You know what I mean? People will get to see some of the things behind the scenes and the cool shit we get.

• 32:07Speaker 01

  And if it's not, I'm going to judge that, that offensive series just as harshly as I would judge the normal Akron offensive coordinator, who, you know, we talk about that person all the time, whoever that is.

• 32:18Speaker 00

  Yeah, and I will be immediately on the hot seat, right? Like, if I, if I fuck up, I'm, I'm never getting another job again.

• 32:26Speaker 01

  Oh, I'm, yeah, I'm saying like, no matter if it's you, if it's somebody else, like we will, we will evaluate that person harshly.

• 32:32Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 32:33Speaker 01

  In the job that they do. I will take that job very seriously as a journalist.

• 32:36Speaker 00

  Okay, uh, do we have any other fit down? Plus extra, anything else?

• 32:41Speaker 01

  Are we going five? We're going five downs?

• 32:43Speaker 00

  The Penn State coke story is awesome.

• 32:46Speaker 01

  We are.

• 32:46Speaker 00

  Reading about it.

• 32:47Speaker 01

  Coked up.

• 32:48Speaker 02

  Pablo Pletchabear.

• 32:49Speaker 00

  Yeah. And did you see that drop of the, the music drop? I'm too old to, to, to quote tweet something like that and be like, that fucking rocks. But they did a, uh, like an intro to a EDM song, and it was the lead investigator being like, and, and the defendants transported like three kilograms of cocaine across state lines, and then the beat drops. It's fucking sick. That's like, if you're a Penn State student, you have to be listening to that at a party this week.

• 33:20Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 33:20Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 33:21Speaker 00

  Like this is about to be welcome week.

• 33:22Speaker 01

  White out. If I know college kids, they're going to narc on each other.

• 33:26Speaker 00

  Yeah, well, that's how it all started. They already did.

• 33:28Speaker 01

  It's about to be, it's about to be a race to see who can cut the best deal.

• 33:31Speaker 00

  I guess one of the, the kid who narked, he was, uh, they were just open Venmos, getting paid open Venmos on his coke deals.

• 33:39Speaker 01

  I love that.

• 33:40Speaker 00

  Whoops.

• 33:40Speaker 01

  They'll never catch us.

• 33:41Speaker 00

  Whoops. Um, okay. Do we have anything else? I'm looking right now. Tugboat started. That was cool. Haas is back.

• 33:50Speaker 02

  I went on a rant about the Phillies last week and they've won every single game since.

• 33:53Speaker 00

  And I made a bet I shared with you last night.

• 33:55Speaker 02

  Yep. I thought that, I thought we were keeping that in-house.

• 33:57Speaker 00

  Oh, okay. We can.

• 33:58Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 33:58Speaker 00

  All right.

• 33:59Speaker 02

  All right. Yeah. From here on out, in-house.

• 34:01Speaker 00

  Okay. But if anyone wants to ride with Max and I, I bet the Phillies plus 475 to win the NL East.

• 34:08Speaker 02

  In-house, starting now.

• 34:09Speaker 01

  And the Braves are going to collapse?

• 34:10Speaker 00

  Well, I, it was.

• 34:12Speaker 02

  I don't, but think I bet it and I couldn't not bet it.

• 34:14Speaker 00

  I bet it because I went and looked at the schedule. Well, I was talking to Sam for Steve and he mentioned, he's like, take a look at this. And then I also was looking at the schedule. The Phillies and Braves play each other seven times, and then the Braves play the Cubs three times at Wrigley, and I was just like, oh, Cubs sweep. So I was like, there's 10 losses right there.

• 34:31Speaker 02

  One problem is the Phillies can't beat a good team ever.

• 34:33Speaker 00

  Yeah, Max told me that after I put it in the bet. So that was my fault.

• 34:38Speaker 00

  Overtime, overtime. Fernando Mendoza gives post-practice interview. He's a weirdo.

• 34:44Speaker 01

  Have you, did you see that?

• 34:45Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 34:45Speaker 01

  I mean, he's got.

• 34:47Speaker 00

  I like him.

• 34:47Speaker 01

  I do too. I do too. But he's gotten weirder.

• 34:49Speaker 00

  Yeah, definitely.

• 34:50Speaker 01

  Like he is now fully, he is, he is now fully Ted Talk.

• 34:53Speaker 00

  Yeah, absolutely.

• 34:54Speaker 01

  And he talks like a hologram version of Gary Vee.

• 34:57Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 34:58Speaker 01

  It was, uh.

• 34:59Speaker 00

  It's bizarre.

• 35:00Speaker 01

  You want to bring up the, uh, the post-practice interview that he did?

• 35:04Speaker 01

  And I like him and I hope he's very successful, but like, the way that he talks, sounds like he has typed this out in his head and spell checked it already.

• 35:12Speaker 05

  It is against Texans defense, which is also a top defense in the league. Go against them. Be able to get some reps with the ones against the superstars on their defense. And then obviously their twos are fantastic as well. We got so much work, whether it was move the ball, first down, third down, red zone, two minute. There's so many situations and I believe overall is a positive day. There were plays that I loved and plays that I wish I had back. But in reality, that's a lie. I wish I didn't have them back because it's a growing experience and it's practice. It's practice and this is what I love. And it's a beautiful day to play football here. And I'm so happy. I have so many things to learn from.

• 35:49Speaker 01

  I wish I had him back. Actually, check that. I'm glad I threw those interceptions because you learn more from a pick than you do from a touchdown. That's why Jalen Hurts is a genius this preseason.

• 35:59Speaker 00

  Absolutely. It's, it's quite something.

• 36:01Speaker 01

  I do, I, I love his interviews.

• 36:03Speaker 00

  It's crazy.

• 36:04Speaker 01

  I don't know. They seem like he's, it seems like he's talking just off the top of his head, but he is delivering them like, like you would expect your CEO to do.

• 36:11Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 36:12Speaker 01

  On like an off-site fire the team up meeting.

• 36:14Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 36:14Speaker 01

  Like he's looking at all the reporters almost like he's trying to inspire them.

• 36:18Speaker 00

  Yeah, he has a lot of the, the bomber like energy of, you know, we're dropping a new operating system and be excited about all these features.

• 36:27Speaker 01

  Yeah. Well, that, he looks at training camp as like he's upgrading his own operating system in his head.

• 36:32Speaker 00

  Wait till you see what I got Clippy doing in, on third down.

• 36:35Speaker 01

  Yeah, Fernando 2.0 Mendoza.

• 36:38Speaker 00

  I'm a fan. I think he's going to be good too. I really do.

• 36:41Speaker 01

  I hope so.

• 36:42Speaker 00

  I, I think he's going to be good. I just.

• 36:45Speaker 01

  Uh, Falcon, uh, double overtime.

• 36:47Speaker 00

  Double overtime. Hit the Buffalo Wild Wings button.

• 36:52Speaker 01

  Atlanta Falcons fans are having a time. They're not happy right now.

• 36:55Speaker 00

  Quarterbacks are both lefties and bad.

• 36:57Speaker 01

  And they're, they, they keep reporting, it's a rush to report every single bad pass that Tua makes. I think he had like three picks and a fumble in his last training camp practice and Falcons fans are going through it right now.

• 37:10Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 37:11Speaker 01

  They're not doing, they're not doing so well.

• 37:12Speaker 00

  And.

• 37:13Speaker 01

  Feel bad for them.

• 37:13Speaker 00

  In the division, Vita Vay staying in Tampa Bay. So congrats, Zach. Seems like things are coming back together.

• 37:19Speaker 02

  Yeah, Jason Light and Vita Vay were chopping up at a training camp. After that, uh, two years, 48 million. Love that, friend. Let's go. Anchor the defense, get paid, my man.

• 37:26Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 37:29Speaker 00

  Maybe, maybe we need to come up with a new word for demanding a trade. Just doesn't happen anymore.

• 37:35Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 37:35Speaker 00

  It feels like it used to mean something when you demanded a trade. Now they just demanded a trade and then they're like, oh, new contract.

• 37:40Speaker 01

  You, you used to like invite reporters over to your house, take your shirt off and do sit ups in the driveway.

• 37:45Speaker 00

  But I actually think there should be like a rule that you, you can ask for a new contract. You can say you're unhappy, but the minute you demand a trade, you're no longer allowed to play for that team. You can't get, you can't be like, you have to either sit out of your, you can't demand, demanding a trade should be like, oh no, that is serious.

• 38:03Speaker 01

  Well, did he, because this is the, the flow chart for NFL disgruntled NFL players. It's like you hold, you hold in, that's the first one. Then the holdout, then you request a trade. Then you demand a trade.

• 38:17Speaker 00

  Demanded a trade.

• 38:17Speaker 01

  Did he demand or did he, did he request?

• 38:19Speaker 00

  I'm pretty sure he demanded a trade. Demand trade.

• 38:23Speaker 01

  And then after that, I guess would be like get fat and out of shape.

• 38:26Speaker 00

  I'm reading it right here. Vita, uh, Vita Bay demands trade.

• 38:30Speaker 01

  Okay. So it was a trade. Yeah. If you demand a trade, you should, you should have to back that up with your actions.

• 38:34Speaker 00

  I just, yeah, I, I want it to be like a whole, I want it to be a whole thing where, where if there's a disgruntled player, you can have the process like you just described, but then when you demand a trade, you have to do a press conference and be like, I am hereby demanding a trade. And then it's, it's like, oh, you have to, you have to follow through with the demand of the trade.

• 38:54Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 38:55Speaker 00

  Um, all right. Should we do Mount Rushmore? Let's do Mount Rushmore. Then we have Max Strus, uh, on the show, which we said at the beginning, but Max Strus, we, we taped it on Tuesday. He got traded on Wednesday. That's never happened to us before. We did at least acknowledge it could happen. Either way, it's awesome interview. Max Struce is the absolute man. He hung out like all day on Tuesday. Um, and we're going to root for him when he's at the Clippers, but, uh, that will come up after Mount Rushmore. Before we do Mount Rushmore, DraftKings, DraftKings, something big is coming on September 2nd. DraftKings game day arrives with massive deals, exclusive offers and all day celebration built for sports fans. The countdown has begun. All roads lead to game day. The DraftKings sports app is now in all 50 states.

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• 41:22Speaker 00

  Okay. Mount Rushmore of, uh, things you, uh, skills you think you could master in a night or what is it? What was the exact thing?

• 41:32Speaker 01

  Overnight?

• 41:33Speaker 00

  Overnight? What did I say exactly?

• 41:34Speaker 05

  Skills you could master overnight.

• 41:36Speaker 00

  Overnight. Okay. Um,

• 41:40Speaker 00

  hey, uh, Zach, blowout win on Wednesday. If you missed Wednesday's show, we're going to a one V one V one, uh, setup because Max Beams and I already clinched not being last place. Zach with a blowout win. PFT came in with a narrow second place. I think it was like 1%.

• 41:57Speaker 01

  Second place, second place.

• 41:57Speaker 00

  Second place, second place. And then Hank is in last place and Hank and Max are now fighting.

• 42:02Speaker 01

  Yeah, big time. It was contentious earlier.

• 42:06Speaker 00

  What was the contentious?

• 42:07Speaker 01

  The contentious part was they, they recommended a Mount Rushmore topic today that, uh, I think was funny to them, but not in reality, not a great topic for debate. I, I objected to the, uh, to the topic. I kept it business. Hank decided to go personal with, with Max and.

• 42:23Speaker 03

  Listen, Max is going to be gone. I don't know when he's ever going to be back. Uh, I'm going to miss him. I, I little behind the curtains. I, I looked at Colton and was like, hey, like get your camera ready. And then I just, you know, threw some, threw, threw a heater in the pot to just get Max riled up.

• 42:39Speaker 00

  Yeah. You said Max is so checked out and already on his sex vacation.

• 42:42Speaker 03

  I said, no, but this, I like, I, I actually, this was just, I was just trying to get Max upset.

• 42:47Speaker 02

  I said, you gotta stop saying sex vacation.

• 42:49Speaker 03

  No one has ever been more checked out in the history of this planet than Max. And then he.

• 42:54Speaker 01

  Sounds like Labor Day is going to be nine months from your sex vacation.

• 42:59Speaker 01

  Getting later every year.

• 43:01Speaker 00

  You got it, Max. You get it. You got it. You got it. You got it.

• 43:04Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 43:05Speaker 00

  Yep. Hank, but in Max's defense, are you potentially in the portion of the Mount Rushmore season where you get triggered because of your own performance on the field?

• 43:19Speaker 03

  Not yet.

• 43:20Speaker 00

  Ah.

• 43:21Speaker 03

  We've had one game.

• 43:23Speaker 01

  Yeah, but I felt like.

• 43:24Speaker 03

  I barely came in third.

• 43:25Speaker 01

  That was an early warning sign.

• 43:26Speaker 00

  Yeah, but we, you went from last in the game we were playing to then a new game and then you're still in last.

• 43:32Speaker 03

  I mean, you asked a question. I answered that's if, if the end, if, I know last today, maybe, but I'm not there yet.

• 43:38Speaker 01

  Zach, what did I say on the stream last night about, about Hank and Mount Rushmore?

• 43:43Speaker 05

  Uh, you did say when it gets late into the season, things should go a little left.

• 43:47Speaker 01

  Yeah, things, things start to.

• 43:49Speaker 03

  Lefty awkward.

• 43:50Speaker 01

  He starts to fight a war against himself and then that ends up usually in him lashing out.

• 43:55Speaker 03

  Okay. Right. I mean, I just, I have like, I documented evidence of me just doing that to get Max fired up, but.

• 44:02Speaker 00

  Yeah, no, I agree with you there. I was just asking, that was a separate question. Like I, I, I completely agree with you and believe that you were, uh, triggering Max in a way that was very funny, but is there a small part of you that is also like, I fucking hate Mount Rushmore because I suck at it?

• 44:18Speaker 03

  No, not yet.

• 44:19Speaker 00

  So it's coming.

• 44:21Speaker 03

  Maybe.

• 44:21Speaker 00

  And Max is going to miss that.

• 44:23Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 44:23Speaker 00

  Cause it's a sex vacation.

• 44:25Speaker 03

  Mm-hmm.

• 44:26Speaker 00

  Okay. Mount Rushmore of skills you think you could master overnight. Henry's first, PFT's second, Zach is third. I think we got that right. I think we're just going to go in order. Yeah. We're going to do that. We're going to go in a circle.

• 44:42Speaker 02

  We're doing a reverse of the last time.

• 44:43Speaker 00

  We're going first. We're just going to circle.

• 44:45Speaker 01

  Wait, but counterclockwise.

• 44:47Speaker 02

  Yeah, counterclockwise, but we're.

• 44:48Speaker 01

  It's a triangle.

• 44:49Speaker 02

  The way we did it when it was.

• 44:51Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah. No, no, we're, they're actually sitting in a circle. The problem with before was that I was sitting in the middle of the circle and you guys were on that side.

• 44:59Speaker 03

  So I'm first.

• 44:59Speaker 00

  You're first. PFT's second. Zach is third. On Monday, PFT will be first. It's a fact.

• 45:07Speaker 02

  Counterclockwise.

• 45:08Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 45:09Speaker 03

  Uh, I'm going to go with,

• 45:13Speaker 03

  I don't know how to word this.

• 45:14Speaker 00

  Oh, all right.

• 45:16Speaker 03

  Driving stick shift.

• 45:17Speaker 00

  Oh, that's how you word it. It's a good pick.

• 45:20Speaker 01

  So you practice overnight in the dark.

• 45:22Speaker 03

  It's one of those things where it seems impossible, but it's actually not like it's, you know, I think of, of a full night of, of learning and training.

• 45:30Speaker 00

  I like that pick.

• 45:31Speaker 03

  It would, it would, and then it would be awesome.

• 45:33Speaker 00

  Yeah. I, uh, I'm intimidated by stick shift, but I do think that if I sat down and did it for two hours, I'd be like, yeah, I got this.

• 45:40Speaker 01

  Yeah. Yeah. I, I learned how to drive stick first. My mom was like, you're going to learn on this car first. That way, if you ever have to drive somebody else's, you can do it. There's nothing more scary than if you drive a stick shift and you're on a hill and you come to a stop and then having to restart while there's somebody right behind you. Like, I don't know how people don't get into accidents every single day doing that.

• 46:02Speaker 00

  What about alien spiders?

• 46:04Speaker 01

  What about it?

• 46:04Speaker 00

  Well, no, you said nothing scarier.

• 46:06Speaker 01

  No, I think that's.

• 46:06Speaker 00

  Alien spiders came down?

• 46:08Speaker 01

  We're doing the Mount Rushmore of terrifying things. I think shifting into first gear.

• 46:12Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 46:13Speaker 01

  While on an incline as a, as a new stick shift driver is number one.

• 46:16Speaker 00

  Nazi alien spiders.

• 46:18Speaker 01

  You know, I hate Nazis, but I'm not scared of them.

• 46:20Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 46:21Speaker 01

  So no.

• 46:22Speaker 00

  Uh, good pick, Hank.

• 46:24Speaker 01

  Thanks. Yeah.

• 46:25Speaker 00

  PFT?

• 46:25Speaker 01

  That's a good pick. Um.

• 46:27Speaker 00

  I hope that we trigger some people with this Mount Rushmore is my hope.

• 46:33Speaker 01

  I'm going to go with, uh, shuffling a deck of cards. Becoming a really sick shuffler.

• 46:38Speaker 03

  It's a good pick.

• 46:39Speaker 00

  I'll say it right now. I do not respect people, men, grown men who can't shuffle.

• 46:46Speaker 01

  That's why I've never done.

• 46:47Speaker 02

  Got it. I thought you were going to go the opposite and I was going to get mad.

• 46:49Speaker 00

  No, I, if, if I hand you a deck of cards and you like do the big mix up like a child or you smash them together.

• 46:57Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 46:58Speaker 00

  I instantly think less of you as a man.

• 47:00Speaker 01

  You know what I do? I take that deck and I'm like, here Hank, you shuffle.

• 47:03Speaker 03

  And then I give it to someone else.

• 47:04Speaker 01

  I just pass it right along.

• 47:06Speaker 03

  We're talking bridge on the way back down too, right?

• 47:07Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 47:08Speaker 02

  Hank, do you not know how to shuffle?

• 47:10Speaker 03

  Not well, no.

• 47:11Speaker 01

  I can shuffle, but I mean, I, 50% of the time it looks like dog shit. 50%? It's like a dead coin flip.

• 47:17Speaker 00

  Guys, we gotta learn. We gotta shuffle on this podcast.

• 47:21Speaker 01

  Overnight.

• 47:22Speaker 00

  We can't be doing this.

• 47:23Speaker 01

  Overnight.

• 47:23Speaker 00

  Let's do it tonight.

• 47:24Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 47:25Speaker 00

  Cause I don't.

• 47:25Speaker 01

  It might have to be.

• 47:27Speaker 00

  You guys, we got, we can't have that.

• 47:28Speaker 01

  I'm telling you, it's a.

• 47:29Speaker 03

  Oh, Marcus Jones has picked off Jalen Hurts again.

• 47:31Speaker 00

  Oh shit, Max just left.

• 47:33Speaker 01

  So 20, 26 interceptions.

• 47:35Speaker 00

  Max, why did Max leave? Was he already?

• 47:37Speaker 05

  Dead cards.

• 47:38Speaker 00

  Oh, I thought he was leaving for his sex vacation.

• 47:40Speaker 01

  I think he probably got the alert that there was another pick. He's like, I'm not dealing with this shit.

• 47:44Speaker 00

  I'm not dealing with this. All right, Zach, you have two.

• 47:46Speaker 05

  I'm going.

• 47:46Speaker 00

  Good pick, PFT.

• 47:47Speaker 05

  That is a great pick. I'm going to take, uh, grave digging.

• 47:52Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 47:54Speaker 05

  If we're trying to master something, I've.

• 47:56Speaker 01

  Hey, Max, breaking moose. Hank, do you want to do the cow?

• 47:59Speaker 00

  Give it to me.

• 48:04Speaker 03

  Uh, Marcus Jones has picked off Jalen Hurts again.

• 48:07Speaker 00

  He opted out.

• 48:08Speaker 02

  Opted out.

• 48:11Speaker 01

  It's a crisp, yeah, crisp shuffle.

• 48:15Speaker 00

  See this Hank?

• 48:16Speaker 03

  I, I, I understand like the concept.

• 48:19Speaker 01

  Shuffling, yeah.

• 48:24Speaker 00

  Well, that was a bad one.

• 48:26Speaker 01

  That, yeah.

• 48:27Speaker 03

  I don't, I don't, I don't like. I can't shuffle.

• 48:31Speaker 01

  What is going on here?

• 48:31Speaker 00

  That was a good one. Oh, that was a really.

• 48:34Speaker 01

  What is, what is going on?

• 48:35Speaker 03

  I don't know what Max is, this is.

• 48:36Speaker 00

  I don't know, Max, he's so checked out, he's on vacation.

• 48:38Speaker 01

  Thanks, sir.

• 48:39Speaker 00

  You were right Hank.

• 48:39Speaker 02

  He's gonna have so much sex.

• 48:40Speaker 01

  I told you that's what I do.

• 48:41Speaker 00

  You were right. You were so right Hank. He's so checked out. Oh no Hank, what are you doing?

• 48:48Speaker 03

  I said I can't shuffle.

• 48:51Speaker 00

  But why are you doing it?

• 48:53Speaker 01

  Just mixing it up?

• 48:55Speaker 00

  No, just try it. Stop!

• 48:57Speaker 03

  What?

• 48:58Speaker 00

  Alright, we're gonna learn, we're gonna learn. We gotta, I don't respect you as much as you meant.

• 49:02Speaker 03

  Go, okay, then what if I just put you in a car and said, "Let's try it."

• 49:04Speaker 01

  Yeah, you're not a man Max.

• 49:06Speaker 03

  Like, I, I can't do it.

• 49:08Speaker 00

  I'm gonna teach you Hank. It was, I just, I've never seen the side. You, you went side, not, you know, tops.

• 49:15Speaker 01

  I would love to be able to do the bridge on the way back up. Fifty percent of the time when I do it, it's crisp, it's perfect, and when you, when.

• 49:22Speaker 00

  Wait, wait, shuffle.

• 49:23Speaker 01

  No, I, I said, when I get asked to shuffle, what I do is I hand it to Hank. That's my shuffling right now.

• 49:29Speaker 00

  But you said fifty percent of the time you're able to do it.

• 49:31Speaker 01

  It's a toss up. I don't wanna, I don't wanna land on the wrong side of that coin right now.

• 49:35Speaker 00

  Okay, okay, that was at least more respectable. Alright, we're gonna learn how to shuffle, we're gonna, we're gonna teach you guys how to shuffle.

• 49:41Speaker 01

  It could happen overnight.

• 49:42Speaker 00

  Alright, uh, grave digging was Zach's first pick.

• 49:46Speaker 03

  If we're trying to master skills.

• 49:48Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 49:49Speaker 03

  I just think.

• 49:50Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 49:50Speaker 03

  Like some of these, I don't know if we're mastering, I think, like, you're roasting a clutch overnight.

• 49:55Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 49:56Speaker 03

  Probably, I, I don't know, I, I just, maybe I took it too literal on the master.

• 49:59Speaker 00

  No, no, but you're right, you would be able to master that.

• 50:01Speaker 03

  And then secondly.

• 50:02Speaker 01

  Wait, wait, Zach, are you saying like, to, you could do it overnight, like you could accomplish digging one grave overnight, or is there something different about digging a grave than there would be about digging a hole?

• 50:13Speaker 03

  I just think there's, or, no, that just seemed like a, a skill.

• 50:15Speaker 00

  It's a profession, yeah.

• 50:16Speaker 03

  Yeah, you put it down as like a skill you have.

• 50:18Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 50:18Speaker 00

  I'd agree with that.

• 50:19Speaker 03

  Uh, second, I would like to take coat check.

• 50:23Speaker 00

  Oh, okay. You took it very literally.

• 50:27Speaker 01

  I think you take.

• 50:29Speaker 03

  I think it could be a master coat checker overnight.

• 50:31Speaker 01

  I don't wanna, I don't wanna disparage the profession. But is it like, I take, I take your coat, here's the ticket?

• 50:39Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 50:39Speaker 01

  And then I take one side of the ticket?

• 50:41Speaker 00

  But you gotta remember what to do with that one side of the ticket.

• 50:43Speaker 01

  And keep it.

• 50:44Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 50:45Speaker 03

  Masters don't make mistakes. I think I can master that overnight.

• 50:48Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 50:48Speaker 01

  Yeah, true. Yeah, master.

• 50:50Speaker 00

  Okay. This is a very literal taking of this, but I like it.

• 50:54Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 50:55Speaker 00

  Go ahead, PFT.

• 50:56Speaker 01

  Um, how to make the perfect paper airplane.

• 50:59Speaker 00

  Hmm.

• 51:00Speaker 01

  I think you get a lot of reps overnight, you can test them against each other, by the time sun comes up, you've got the perfect design.

• 51:07Speaker 00

  Our guy Sante recently proved that that's not true. He watched a week long video and took a Yale course in it and then finished third in a paper airplane throwing competition.

• 51:18Speaker 02

  Out of three people.

• 51:19Speaker 00

  Out of three people.

• 51:20Speaker 01

  I think that you could, I, I personally think this Mount Rushmore being, what could I master overnight?

• 51:25Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah.

• 51:25Speaker 01

  I think if I tried hard enough, I would create the perfect paper airplane.

• 51:29Speaker 00

  Yeah, okay. Hank?

• 51:32Speaker 03

  I'm gonna go, uh, with tying a bow tie.

• 51:36Speaker 00

  Hmm.

• 51:37Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 51:38Speaker 03

  That's so hard, it's so hard. But like, you, we're talking, you have all night.

• 51:43Speaker 00

  Yeah, I like it.

• 51:45Speaker 03

  Like you have all night.

• 51:46Speaker 01

  Hmm.

• 51:47Speaker 03

  It's hard, but like, that's the, that's the perfect time to, you don't have enough time to, there's things you don't have enough time to do. Learning a bow tie, I feel like if I had a full night, I could.

• 51:58Speaker 00

  This might be the punishment for Rushmore. Loser has to do one, master one of these.

• 52:04Speaker 01

  Do all of the ones that you put out there for you at Mount Rushmore.

• 52:07Speaker 00

  Yeah, okay.

• 52:08Speaker 03

  Uh, and then I'm gonna go with beating a video game.

• 52:11Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 52:12Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 52:13Speaker 00

  If you give it a full night and you're like, I'm not going to bed and I'm just gonna keep hammering it, yeah.

• 52:17Speaker 01

  Not all of them though, there's some really shitty ones like Zelda, that you cannot beat at night.

• 52:21Speaker 00

  Battletoads.

• 52:22Speaker 01

  You have to do like six weeks, nothing but Zelda all the time. Oh, I connected enough flutes that, um, I've mastered the elf.

• 52:31Speaker 00

  Alright, PFT, you have a pick?

• 52:32Speaker 03

  I hate on Zelda, it's insane.

• 52:34Speaker 01

  Yeah, well, it's real.

• 52:36Speaker 03

  Sexist.

• 52:38Speaker 01

  No, really? Link, Link is a, is a chick?

• 52:44Speaker 02

  Link is a male, Zelda is a female.

• 52:45Speaker 01

  Yeah, Hank doesn't even know.

• 52:46Speaker 03

  I do know, I said, I said the hate on Zelda.

• 52:48Speaker 02

  Zelda, he did, this is true. You said.

• 52:52Speaker 01

  But I hate on, I hate on the video game, where you play as the little elf guy.

• 52:56Speaker 02

  Yeah. But the game is called Zelda.

• 52:57Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 52:57Speaker 00

  Yeah, Okran's Ring.

• 53:00Speaker 02

  No, oh, no.

• 53:02Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 53:02Speaker 00

  What?

• 53:03Speaker 02

  Not, it's not Okran.

• 53:04Speaker 01

  Oh, you've, you've, you've unveiled, you've unveiled the magic harp. Now you get three more diamonds.

• 53:11Speaker 00

  Oh, Breaking Moose.

• 53:12Speaker 03

  Let's fucking fly from Missouri to Kansas.

• 53:17Speaker 01

  It's called skills. The magic of flight.

• 53:21Speaker 00

  Breaking Moose, Breaking Moose, Breaking Moose. Uh, apparently Dan Hurley is rewatching the Duke Yukon game this morning and laughing at them on Instagram stories. That rocks. He's got the laughing.

• 53:35Speaker 01

  Why, why would he laugh at that game?

• 53:36Speaker 00

  Look at that, laughing emoji.

• 53:38Speaker 01

  Yeah, but Duke was crushing him, why is?

• 53:39Speaker 00

  That's awesome. Okay, that was it.

• 53:41Speaker 01

  Why would he laugh at that?

• 53:42Speaker 00

  I don't know. Who's up?

• 53:45Speaker 01

  I'm up.

• 53:46Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 53:47Speaker 01

  I'm gonna go with CPR.

• 53:51Speaker 00

  Yeah, we had it on our list.

• 53:53Speaker 01

  Could master that overnight, maybe save a life.

• 53:56Speaker 00

  Something you really don't wanna fuck up though, if you ma, if you, if you think you mastered it.

• 53:59Speaker 01

  That's true, that's one of those skills that you have and, and you probably don't, I would not go around telling people that I was certified, or that I knew CPR, but then when the shit went down, if nobody else could do it, it's kinda like if I was on a plane and the pilot passed out, and the, uh, flight attendant was like, "Is anyone here a pilot?" I wouldn't say shit.

• 54:16Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 54:16Speaker 01

  But then I'd wait like ten seconds, and I'd be like, uh.

• 54:19Speaker 00

  I am, kind of.

• 54:20Speaker 01

  I, I own a flight simulator, yeah.

• 54:23Speaker 00

  Alright Zach, you have two?

• 54:25Speaker 03

  I'm gonna go with Battleship.

• 54:27Speaker 00

  The game?

• 54:28Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 54:29Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 54:30Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 54:31Speaker 03

  I feel like there's a bunch of different openings in Battleship you could probably get into there.

• 54:34Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 54:35Speaker 03

  And then for, and then I would also like to take bartending at a dive bar.

• 54:40Speaker 00

  Okay, that's a good pick. That's a good pick.

• 54:43Speaker 02

  You don't have to make any intricate, intricate cocktails.

• 54:45Speaker 00

  No, you just open a beer.

• 54:46Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 54:47Speaker 01

  There's openings in Ba, in Battleship? I was not aware of this.

• 54:50Speaker 03

  Well, we're looking to master, you know?

• 54:51Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 54:51Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 54:52Speaker 02

  Although I think you might be too nice for a bartender at a dive bar, I think you gotta be like a little bit of.

• 54:57Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 54:58Speaker 03

  That'd get mean overnight though.

• 54:59Speaker 00

  Yeah, you could.

• 55:00Speaker 02

  He's gotta master. That's a good point, you can master that.

• 55:01Speaker 00

  Yeah, and you actually would get really mean if you, if you didn't get your sleep.

• 55:05Speaker 03

  Yeah, so I'll be up all, all, all evening trying to master serving beers.

• 55:08Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 55:08Speaker 01

  I, I feel like if you bartended at a dive bar Zach, somebody would come in, try to order something fancy, they'd be like, "Can I have a French 75?" And you'd be like, "Uh, yeah, yes sir." And then you'd turn around and you'd be like, "Shit, I don't have any of those ingredients."

• 55:19Speaker 03

  They're getting the vodka soda with like a, two fun wedges.

• 55:22Speaker 02

  But the right answer is no, this is what you get.

• 55:24Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 55:25Speaker 00

  It's beer and drinks that are two, two ingredients.

• 55:28Speaker 01

  You want a beer, or do you want two beers?

• 55:30Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 55:30Speaker 03

  And yes, we have ashtrays.

• 55:32Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 55:33Speaker 00

  Uh, okay, PFT, your last pick?

• 55:35Speaker 01

  Uh, my last pick, I'm gonna go with changing a tire.

• 55:40Speaker 03

  Hmm.

• 55:42Speaker 01

  You could figure that out overnight.

• 55:44Speaker 03

  That was a good pick, that was gonna be my next pick.

• 55:45Speaker 01

  Yeah, I've, I've done it, not overnight, but like in the morning, I figure that out. It's not that hard, you just have to, it's mostly about.

• 55:53Speaker 03

  I learned how to do it when I was younger, but if I had to do it today.

• 55:57Speaker 00

  You'd know how to do it.

• 55:58Speaker 03

  Probably not, but overnight you can master.

• 56:00Speaker 02

  We just got a, we just got a side text from one of, one of the boys listening in the, uh, editing bay.

• 56:06Speaker 00

  What'd they say?

• 56:07Speaker 02

  I'm not gonna say who it is, but Shane texted me and memes separately and goes, "Zach with one of the worst drafts in the history of Mount Rushmore."

• 56:15Speaker 01

  Oh no.

• 56:15Speaker 00

  No, bartender was good.

• 56:17Speaker 02

  Bartender was good.

• 56:18Speaker 00

  He just took it very literally.

• 56:19Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 56:22Speaker 00

  Alright, what's your last pick Hank?

• 56:23Speaker 03

  Hmm.

• 56:30Speaker 03

  Juggling.

• 56:33Speaker 02

  We, we said juggling.

• 56:34Speaker 00

  Yeah. I had it on our list. We had it on our list.

• 56:37Speaker 01

  Juggling's hard.

• 56:39Speaker 03

  But you got a full night, you could learn, I, I could do three balls, maybe four.

• 56:42Speaker 01

  Hmm.

• 56:42Speaker 03

  Uh, it was between that, um, we're done, right?

• 56:45Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 56:45Speaker 03

  I was, I was, tell me, tell me which, if that was the correct pick between juggling, harmonica, baking cookies.

• 56:53Speaker 00

  I had cooking in general. All you gotta do is really follow direction, like I'd cook anything, especially if we give me like, hey, here's your ingredients, just like.

• 57:02Speaker 03

  I'm just thinking like, oh, you got a full night, you, you try round, you know, you could try like, seven or eight batches of cookies, and by the eighth one, you would assume you, you've created the perfect cookie.

• 57:12Speaker 00

  You guys, you guys went pretty respectful, cause we were getting disrespectful with ours. Uh, we went, I think you did a good pick there, your last one, but we got disrespectful, we, we think you could, you could master Excel overnight.

• 57:26Speaker 02

  Oh yeah, for sure.

• 57:27Speaker 01

  Uh, I'm already proficient.

• 57:29Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 57:29Speaker 01

  It's only one more step to being a master.

• 57:31Speaker 00

  Uh, photography.

• 57:32Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 57:33Speaker 00

  Easily.

• 57:33Speaker 02

  I didn't say that.

• 57:34Speaker 00

  Yeah. These are people who go to school for a really long time. I think you could learn Spanish overnight. Uh, we also had code to code.

• 57:41Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 57:42Speaker 02

  That, very simple.

• 57:45Speaker 00

  Simple, then we had.

• 57:47Speaker 01

  You just ask Rock to do it for you.

• 57:49Speaker 00

  Tennis player and pickleball, easy.

• 57:51Speaker 01

  Yeah, master tennis.

• 57:52Speaker 00

  Yeah, we fucking, we could have a duper at five in a second.

• 57:55Speaker 02

  Pickleball for sure.

• 57:56Speaker 00

  Easy.

• 57:57Speaker 01

  I had one disrespectful thing on here, I didn't take it, uh, DJing.

• 58:01Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 58:01Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 58:02Speaker 01

  DJing, press play.

• 58:03Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 58:04Speaker 01

  Boom.

• 58:05Speaker 00

  Rubik's Cube we had.

• 58:06Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 58:07Speaker 00

  Juggle we had.

• 58:08Speaker 01

  I thought about Rubik's Cube, but honestly, zero, zero chance.

• 58:11Speaker 02

  No, it's just an algorithm.

• 58:12Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 58:13Speaker 02

  Like.

• 58:13Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 58:14Speaker 01

  Max, I'll, I'll pay you a thousand dollars if you can learn how to do a Rubik's Cube as an expert overnight.

• 58:19Speaker 03

  Different boating knots.

• 58:20Speaker 00

  Oh, that's good. Also, just, just making a budget. I didn't really know how to phrase that one, but like I've, like just, like being like, alright, spend, this is your allotment for, uh, various raffles.

• 58:35Speaker 01

  Um, state capitals.

• 58:36Speaker 02

  That's your budget.

• 58:37Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's my budget. You spend this much on raffles, someone help me with my budget.

• 58:41Speaker 02

  We had golf.

• 58:42Speaker 00

  Yeah, we had golf as well. If you spent one full night on golf.

• 58:45Speaker 01

  Fifty state capitals, you could, you could memorize those.

• 58:48Speaker 03

  Nope.

• 58:50Speaker 01

  You should try. Yeah, I guarantee you.

• 58:52Speaker 03

  No.

• 58:52Speaker 01

  If you just tried, there's only fifty of them.

• 58:54Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 58:54Speaker 01

  And you know most of them.

• 58:55Speaker 00

  Zach, talk to us, what's going on in the head?

• 58:58Speaker 03

  What's up? Uh, yeah, uh.

• 58:59Speaker 02

  He's pissed at Shane.

• 59:00Speaker 03

  We had a good draft, uh, a lot of these, I'll say it, a few of these things, I don't think any of us could master overnight, but, uh, yeah. Like what? Uh, yeah, the stick shift thing, I don't think you're mastering that overnight. Hundred percent. The Rubik's Cube thing. Hundred percent. Rubik's Cube, no. You think, you think stick shift overnight?

• 59:13Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 59:13Speaker 03

  And you're not, you're not slipping a gear? You're just? You have eight hours.

• 59:16Speaker 00

  Columbus.

• 59:17Speaker 03

  If you're on. The first couple hours, yes. Have you been in, like, have you been in first on a hill?

• 59:23Speaker 00

  Madison.

• 59:23Speaker 03

  No, but again, like the first time, yeah, it might be a struggle, the second, third, fourth, fifth.

• 59:27Speaker 01

  Oh, Cheyenne, shit.

• 59:29Speaker 00

  On PFT. Yep. Zach is so mad at Shane. No, not at all. He's really mad at Shane. He no, no.

• 59:37Speaker 00

  Vegetables. I didn't say that.

• 59:41Speaker 04

  When I was in third grade or like, or like class was like, you had to like spelling, you had to pass. And if you didn't pass, everyone moved on and you stayed on that level.

• 59:50Speaker 01

  Honolulu.

• 59:51Speaker 04

  I was the last person in states and capitals. It was, it was.

• 59:55Speaker 00

  No, no, no. No. Oh, it is.

• 1:00:03Speaker 00

  We're really having, what were you saying, Hank?

• 1:00:05Speaker 01

  Helena.

• 1:00:07Speaker 00

  What were you saying?

• 1:00:09Speaker 04

  I was the last person in my class in third grade to pass states and capitals.

• 1:00:14Speaker 01

  That's.

• 1:00:14Speaker 00

  I think it's Frankfurt.

• 1:00:15Speaker 01

  Yeah, I think it's Frankfurt, small capital. Alabama is.

• 1:00:21Speaker 00

  Birmingham, Montgomery. Alright, let's get to our interview. Max Struce, good to meet Rushmore, everyone.

• 1:00:27Speaker 01

  Missouri Spring, yeah, okay.

• 1:00:28Speaker 00

  Do they have to hold, did they hold you back on capitals, Hank?

• 1:00:31Speaker 04

  What do you mean?

• 1:00:32Speaker 00

  That'd be funny if they're like, we're not going to hold you back the grade, but just capitals.

• 1:00:38Speaker 04

  Yeah, pretty much.

• 1:00:39Speaker 00

  Yeah. That sucks.

• 1:00:41Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:00:41Speaker 01

  Salt Lake City.

• 1:00:42Speaker 00

  Alright, let's get to our interview with Mark, Max Struce, who's now on the Clippers. And, uh, we're going to talk to him, great time with him.

• 1:00:51Speaker 01

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• 1:02:59Speaker 00

  Okay, we now welcome on a very, very special guest. It is Max Strus in studio. And, uh, Max is here. Well, he lives in Chicago, but he also has a, uh, charity event on Sunday. Uh, which is a great, great cause, the Max Strus Family Foundation. Where are you guys doing it on Sunday?

• 1:03:18Speaker 04

  At the, uh, big, uh, City Pickle in West Loop.

• 1:03:21Speaker 00

  Okay, so pickleball. Are you allowed to play pickleball?

• 1:03:23Speaker 04

  I am.

• 1:03:24Speaker 00

  You are?

• 1:03:25Speaker 04

  Yes, I'll be playing.

• 1:03:26Speaker 00

  Are you good?

• 1:03:27Speaker 04

  I'm alright.

• 1:03:27Speaker 00

  What's your rating?

• 1:03:28Speaker 04

  What's my rating?

• 1:03:29Speaker 01

  Do you have a rating?

• 1:03:31Speaker 04

  Uh, I'm probably in the eighties. I'll probably be in the eighties. Yeah, I don't know.

• 1:03:33Speaker 00

  You're not good.

• 1:03:36Speaker 01

  You don't have a dooper, do you?

• 1:03:37Speaker 04

  No, I don't have a dooper. I don't know that as a thing. Is it like a golf handicap?

• 1:03:41Speaker 00

  We have a, uh, you know what? I'm just gonna call.

• 1:03:46Speaker 01

  It's like a pickleball. He, he loves the sport.

• 1:03:48Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 1:03:48Speaker 01

  And he's very adamant about people saying they play pickleball. And if they don't have a dooper, he gets.

• 1:03:53Speaker 04

  Yeah, no, I don't have a dooper.

• 1:03:54Speaker 00

  This is an interesting way to start an interview. We gotta do it. Uh.

• 1:03:57Speaker 01

  Mike's the man.

• 1:03:58Speaker 00

  He's the man. He's.

• 1:03:59Speaker 01

  Loves cannolis.

• 1:04:02Speaker 00

  We got, uh, Max Strus here in studio from the Cavs and he says he plays pickleball. Do you have any questions for him?

• 1:04:12Speaker 00

  Hey, Max, what's your dooper?

• 1:04:13Speaker 04

  Yeah, I gotta work on that.

• 1:04:14Speaker 00

  He doesn't have. He doesn't have one.

• 1:04:20Speaker 00

  Thank you, Mike. Appreciate it.

• 1:04:24Speaker 04

  Always a bad sign.

• 1:04:25Speaker 01

  So we're getting better.

• 1:04:25Speaker 04

  Yeah, I need more knowledge, I guess.

• 1:04:27Speaker 01

  Yeah, you gotta choose for a dooper. This time next year, gotta have a dooper.

• 1:04:30Speaker 00

  Is it, it's a tournament?

• 1:04:32Speaker 04

  It is a tournament. Yeah, there's three levels. Uh, there's a competitive thing. There's a. Anybody like leisurely wants to come play and there's a celebrity tournament as well, so. Kate, Kate's in it, Barstool Kate.

• 1:04:42Speaker 01

  Okay, she's really good.

• 1:04:43Speaker 04

  Chief and, uh, White Sox, Dave are playing.

• 1:04:45Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:04:46Speaker 04

  Um, Herb Jones from the Pelicans is coming over.

• 1:04:49Speaker 00

  I gotta play next year. I, I had a, I had a conflict this year because it's, my kids start school the next day, so we're doing one last vacation. I don't have a dooper.

• 1:04:57Speaker 04

  You don't have one either.

• 1:04:57Speaker 00

  I do not. I actually, you know what? Pickleball's a fine sport. We'll, we'll keep it, we'll keep it, we'll keep it good. We're doing a foundation.

• 1:05:06Speaker 04

  Yeah, exactly.

• 1:05:07Speaker 00

  Great charity. Alright, so how, what's, what's this week like right now? So we're taping this on Tuesday, you're, we're gonna run it on Friday. Are you still gonna be a Cav?

• 1:05:18Speaker 00

  Do you have any, do you get any updates?

• 1:05:20Speaker 04

  No, you don't know anything until it happens. I mean, I've never been in this situation before. I've never been like on trade rumors and trade blocks like this before, so it's something new that I'm learning as well, but. Um, to the answer your question, I don't know.

• 1:05:33Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:05:33Speaker 04

  Um, so if it happens, it happens and we'll be alright. If it doesn't, I'll be happy back in Cleveland.

• 1:05:37Speaker 00

  I think it's also like weirdly a compliment that you have like, uh, such a trade, like. You have a contract that people are like, this is a good player on the last year of a deal, like this is a great, like, asset that we can, you know, shop around.

• 1:05:52Speaker 04

  Yeah, you don't want to take it as a slight, like, they're just getting rid of you. Like, you have value. People want you, so like. At, at some point, it's like, alright, you're, you're doing something. People know who you are. People want you, so I, I'm not mad about it. It is what it is. I get it. It's a business at the end of the day, so. Um, you just gotta take it for what it is and if it happens, it happens.

• 1:06:10Speaker 00

  Alright, so other offseason question. What was your favorite moment from, uh, almost being teammates with LeBron?

• 1:06:18Speaker 00

  Cause there was like that one week where it's like, oh, he's definitely going to the Cavs.

• 1:06:20Speaker 04

  Everybody thought he was coming to the game.

• 1:06:21Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:06:22Speaker 04

  But like, nobody truly knew.

• 1:06:23Speaker 00

  What was your favorite moment? Did you have a favorite moment of that?

• 1:06:25Speaker 04

  Um, you know what? I golfed one day during that week and I was like, man, this is gonna be pretty cool if I can, I get to golf with LeBron.

• 1:06:32Speaker 00

  That's a good answer. That's a good answer.

• 1:06:34Speaker 04

  I was looking forward to that, but unfortunately that didn't happen.

• 1:06:36Speaker 00

  That is, that's a highlight.

• 1:06:37Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:06:37Speaker 01

  What, was it super weird this year in that one playoff game? I forget which one it was when Charles Barkley basically said he wanted to date you.

• 1:06:44Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 1:06:45Speaker 01

  On national TV. I think the quote was something like, he's a good looking man.

• 1:06:48Speaker 04

  Yeah, he compared me like Tom Brady.

• 1:06:49Speaker 01

  Yeah, I, I think he said, I would not look him dead in the eye because you're that good looking. Did you, did you reach out to Charles afterwards? Did you send him a text? Like, you up? What's going on? What's up, Charles?

• 1:06:59Speaker 04

  Uh, we definitely did another interview like a week later and I got to talk to him. Um, but, yeah, no, no weird stuff. But, you know, it was just like a, it was a nice compliment that I'll take from the guy.

• 1:07:09Speaker 01

  Very nice. Has a woman ever talked to you in the same way that Charles Barkley talked to you?

• 1:07:13Speaker 04

  I wish.

• 1:07:14Speaker 01

  He really liked you.

• 1:07:15Speaker 04

  Yes. No, I wish some women would do that. No, he, he's got it. Yeah, that was awesome.

• 1:07:18Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:07:18Speaker 00

  Those guys are very funny.

• 1:07:20Speaker 04

  They're the best.

• 1:07:21Speaker 00

  We've had Chuck on a couple of times. He's just, he could just talk forever.

• 1:07:24Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:07:24Speaker 04

  All day.

• 1:07:25Speaker 00

  Yeah, all day.

• 1:07:26Speaker 04

  All of them. All three of those guys in there can do that.

• 1:07:28Speaker 00

  Um, your career though is, is interesting because you, you're not like, you weren't a, a top draft pick. You had to kind of scratch and claw. You know, G League, you get hurt, all these things. Was there, was there a moment where, because a lot of times, guys, if they aren't drafted. They're just going right to Europe. And they're like, alright, this is, I'll make a great living playing ball in Europe, but it's never gonna happen to me, for me in the NBA. Was, was that ever a thought? Like, I'm gonna go to Europe? Or you're like, no, I can do this in NBA?

• 1:07:55Speaker 04

  Uh, multiple times.

• 1:07:56Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:07:56Speaker 04

  There's plenty of moments where I was like, I'm probably not gonna make it anymore. Um, I'd say like, coming out of high school in Division Two, you know, my brother played at Lewis University, so I followed in his footsteps and. Everybody who was good on that team played overseas and played professionally, so I was like, that's gonna be my route. Um, so that was always like the dream, the goal. And then once I transferred to DePaul. My sights kind of changed of like, alright, I could play in the NBA and make it, but then. Obviously had my sniff, played in summer league and then had my first year with the Bulls.

• 1:08:23Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:08:23Speaker 04

  Tore my ACL and I was like, well, that might have been my shot, you know? Um, but yeah, going overseas was always an option, always a thought. The NBA was never really the thought, but then it just kind of just all kept working out.

• 1:08:35Speaker 00

  And was there a moment where you're like, okay, I'm, I'm good. Like, I, I can do this. I'm good.

• 1:08:39Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:08:40Speaker 00

  I've, I've made it. I've, I can actually, like, I belong here.

• 1:08:43Speaker 04

  Absolutely. Um, you know, after I tore my ACL, I got to go to Miami. And I was there for three years, but after my first year there, they, they signed me like a two-year. Minimum and I played summer league that summer and like that was like my moment of like I'm here I belong I should be here and I'm gonna I'm gonna be a good player in the league.

• 1:08:59Speaker 00

  That's gotta be an incredible feeling where you where you have the confidence of like I'm actually I'm actually good at this and I can be I can beat these guy like I'm better than some of these guys and I can contribute to a team.

• 1:09:09Speaker 04

  Yeah, no, it was I mean the heat like put me in summer league and they're like it's your third year but you're gonna play we want you to be the guy and like. At that point you kind of just get your confidence rolling and and then I had a really good summer league and. Follow that into the season and everything just like kept taking off from there and and now I'm where I am.

• 1:09:24Speaker 00

  How how do you how do you describe heat culture?

• 1:09:30Speaker 04

  How do you describe heat culture?

• 1:09:32Speaker 00

  Is it just that they weigh you every day?

• 1:09:34Speaker 04

  Many times it's uh once a week.

• 1:09:36Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:09:37Speaker 04

  Yeah, you gotta have body your body fat's gotta be in touch uh can't be over 10% body fat.

• 1:09:42Speaker 00

  Fuck, I have no I have no.

• 1:09:45Speaker 04

  It's like these like little like clapper things.

• 1:09:46Speaker 01

  They bring out the calipers on you guys? You get pinched once a week by your team?

• 1:09:50Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:09:51Speaker 00

  So I'm.

• 1:09:51Speaker 04

  Strength coaches like right out of the showers like step on the scale.

• 1:09:55Speaker 00

  So I'm somewhere like 22% over the heat culture line.

• 1:09:58Speaker 04

  Yeah, you would not be able to play in a game you they would be making you run sprints after practice making you run on the treadmill until you got down to 10%.

• 1:10:04Speaker 01

  If you get asked that question like can I give you a way to answer it?

• 1:10:07Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:10:07Speaker 01

  You just answer it with another cliche you say the standard is the standard.

• 1:10:11Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:10:11Speaker 01

  Or and then they're like, oh, yeah, yeah, I get that.

• 1:10:14Speaker 04

  Right, they'd be like, oh, yeah.

• 1:10:15Speaker 01

  Cause the standard, yeah.

• 1:10:15Speaker 00

  Yeah, or you have to or you just say if you have to ask you can't afford it. Like if you if you have to ask about heat culture like dude you it's never gonna be for you.

• 1:10:22Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:10:23Speaker 00

  You know?

• 1:10:23Speaker 04

  It's a great way to go at it.

• 1:10:24Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:10:24Speaker 01

  Are there are there some guys in the G League that are that you see like in the developmental areas that? Aren't really they've kind of like given up that dream they're there they're getting a paycheck they're playing ball but. Like you could tell that they're not really they don't have that dream of playing in the NBA anymore.

• 1:10:39Speaker 04

  No, I think everybody has the dream and I think everybody thinks that they belong um and I think that's why.

• 1:10:44Speaker 01

  That's gotta be tough.

• 1:10:45Speaker 04

  Yeah, I think everybody's just like the G League is an interesting place, man like guys are just like grinding for their lives out there making $35,000 a year but like. Everybody there thinks that they can start and play and score 20 points a game in the NBA so it's just like. I think the toughest job is probably coaching the G League of like trying to balance all those egos but. Yeah, there there's definitely talented guys but there's some guys that just like yeah ain't gonna make it.

• 1:11:09Speaker 01

  It's partially that and partially if if you still have that belief in yourself as a team of everybody that thinks that they should be in in the NBA. Like how do you get those players to play as a team because?

• 1:11:18Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:11:19Speaker 01

  At the end of the day they're trying to get their own stats up they're trying to do whatever they need to do to prove themselves to a GM.

• 1:11:24Speaker 04

  Have you ever been to a G League game?

• 1:11:25Speaker 01

  I have, yeah, and it's not it's not always the best team basketball.

• 1:11:29Speaker 04

  No, no, not at all. Yeah, if you're a point guard, you're in a good spot, but if you're anybody else but a point guard and a center, you're probably not gonna score much.

• 1:11:36Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:11:36Speaker 04

  Yeah, if anybody who has the ball in their hand is kind of getting the shot so it's an interesting dynamic um there's definitely been some good G League teams but. It's a crazy world down there it's crazy world.

• 1:11:46Speaker 01

  Yeah, um also as as a professional athlete and specifically in the NBA NBA I was wondering if you could teach us what taxes are. And because I think you guys have to pay taxes and we don't I don't know what that is so.

• 1:11:59Speaker 04

  Shit, you guys make more money than me, you guys should tell me about taxes.

• 1:12:02Speaker 01

  How does that work when you're?

• 1:12:03Speaker 04

  The only thing I know about taxes is that I get taxed in every city that I'm in so like. You know, we play in LA for three days like you're getting taxed those those nights in LA but I got somebody who handles that for me so I can't answer any of your taxes.

• 1:12:14Speaker 00

  Can you just say uh and we'll just clip it just be like people don't understand that athletes pay taxes too?

• 1:12:22Speaker 04

  People do not understand that athletes of course pay taxes as well.

• 1:12:25Speaker 00

  Damn, that's crazy. Wow, holy shit.

• 1:12:28Speaker 01

  I can see how you lose your money, huh?

• 1:12:31Speaker 04

  At least, yeah.

• 1:12:32Speaker 00

  Damn.

• 1:12:32Speaker 01

  Say damn.

• 1:12:33Speaker 00

  Damn.

• 1:12:34Speaker 04

  Damn.

• 1:12:34Speaker 01

  That's a lot.

• 1:12:36Speaker 00

  Yeah, it's a new trend where it's like uh you know whatever athlete who uh maybe got into money issues are like. You make a hundred million dollars boom chop it in half right away it's like yeah dude we all know.

• 1:12:46Speaker 04

  Yeah, everybody does.

• 1:12:48Speaker 00

  We all got it. Um, do you think you need more respect as a dunker? Cause you are a sneaky dunker.

• 1:12:55Speaker 04

  Well, that's every white guy in the NBA.

• 1:12:57Speaker 00

  I know, but you get up there and you like throw down.

• 1:13:00Speaker 04

  Yes, I I do I've I've like it's been my dream of mine since I was a kid to be in the dunk contest.

• 1:13:04Speaker 00

  Why aren't we doing it?

• 1:13:05Speaker 04

  Uh, so I had a chance like two years ago. Where they were like calling me and they're like ah we got somebody else on the line but like if he says no like you're our next guy and like. By the time they called I already planned like a trip to go to like Punta Cana.

• 1:13:17Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:13:18Speaker 04

  So I was like, yeah, I'm I'm not gonna do that.

• 1:13:19Speaker 01

  That's actually the the perfect answer for a guy that should be in the dunk contest. Yeah, I'm gonna be in Mexico. Maybe next year but yeah you should be in it like imagine if it was you and and Mac McClung in the finals.

• 1:13:29Speaker 04

  I mean that guy's unreal.

• 1:13:31Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:13:31Speaker 04

  The dunks that he can do I I don't think I could do all that but I could you know.

• 1:13:35Speaker 01

  Have you have you thought like thought about what your what your three dunks would be have you daydreamed about that?

• 1:13:41Speaker 04

  I I have one.

• 1:13:42Speaker 00

  Ooh.

• 1:13:43Speaker 04

  Yeah, I have one.

• 1:13:44Speaker 00

  Are you still think you're gonna do it?

• 1:13:45Speaker 04

  I would love to.

• 1:13:46Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:13:47Speaker 04

  So I don't know if I can give it.

• 1:13:47Speaker 00

  No, I think if you tell us then maybe it will.

• 1:13:50Speaker 01

  No one else can do it.

• 1:13:50Speaker 00

  People like we gotta see it.

• 1:13:51Speaker 01

  And if somebody else does it they that's infringing on your IP.

• 1:13:54Speaker 00

  I promise to not do this dunk.

• 1:13:57Speaker 04

  Yeah, I mean it's like a triple backflip.

• 1:13:59Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah, no, I'm not gonna do that shit.

• 1:14:02Speaker 01

  I can't make that promise.

• 1:14:03Speaker 00

  Wait, all right, so we have a running bit on this show um I I get a question because you said Punta Cana it reminded me of something. Um, obviously losing in the playoffs sucks.

• 1:14:12Speaker 04

  Sucks.

• 1:14:13Speaker 00

  But like going to Cabo as a professional athlete rocks.

• 1:14:17Speaker 04

  Never been.

• 1:14:18Speaker 00

  Okay, wherever you're going to vacation it rocks, right?

• 1:14:22Speaker 04

  It can.

• 1:14:22Speaker 00

  Yeah, okay, right, because we always joke like whenever it's like oh enjoy Cabo it's like yeah they they probably will.

• 1:14:27Speaker 04

  Probably will.

• 1:14:29Speaker 00

  They're super rich in awesome shape like gonna have a good time. You could never dream of having that. They probably will have a very good time.

• 1:14:38Speaker 01

  Fans being like see you in Cancun loser.

• 1:14:40Speaker 04

  People are like they think that's like a slight it's like all right if I see you there I'll see you there.

• 1:14:43Speaker 01

  I'm basically gonna just be in heaven for two weeks so yeah I yeah I actually I won't see you there because you won't be there. I will. I get to go.

• 1:14:51Speaker 00

  Just some like small part of like hey imagine going to the pool and like not being embarrassed to take off your shirt they get to do that.

• 1:14:59Speaker 00

  So yeah, it probably rocks.

• 1:15:00Speaker 04

  Yeah, no, it's a I mean you don't want to be there of course but the yes it's it's usually a pretty good time anytime you can get away.

• 1:15:06Speaker 00

  Vacation's fun.

• 1:15:07Speaker 01

  Can I ask you a headline grab question when it's gonna get clipped? Make a uh make a starting five out of guys that you've played with. Top starting five.

• 1:15:14Speaker 00

  Hmm.

• 1:15:15Speaker 01

  All your teammates current and former.

• 1:15:19Speaker 04

  Um, I think Jimmy Butler's gotta be in there.

• 1:15:22Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 1:15:23Speaker 04

  Donovan Mitchell.

• 1:15:26Speaker 00

  Should Donovan Mitchell be taller?

• 1:15:29Speaker 04

  Have you guys ever met him?

• 1:15:30Speaker 00

  No, but his his arm length is crazy.

• 1:15:33Speaker 04

  Insane.

• 1:15:33Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:15:34Speaker 04

  Yeah, his feet he wears like a size like 16 shoe.

• 1:15:36Speaker 00

  Yeah, I think he should be taller.

• 1:15:37Speaker 04

  It doesn't make any sense.

• 1:15:38Speaker 00

  Okay, yeah, keep going. I'm happy we confirmed that.

• 1:15:41Speaker 04

  Yes, um, Don, Jimmy, who else have I played with? Those are the definitely the two um I gotta throw James Harden in there.

• 1:15:51Speaker 00

  Yeah, okay.

• 1:15:51Speaker 04

  Um, just off of his resume.

• 1:15:54Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:15:55Speaker 04

  Um. Bam, Atabio.

• 1:15:59Speaker 00

  That's fair.

• 1:16:00Speaker 04

  And you know what? I'm a huge Jared Allen fan.

• 1:16:03Speaker 00

  He's a man.

• 1:16:04Speaker 04

  I love Jared Allen. Yeah, he's one of my favorite players ever.

• 1:16:07Speaker 00

  Were you uh did you the Bam Tyler Hero uh fight were you there for that?

• 1:16:14Speaker 04

  No.

• 1:16:15Speaker 00

  You didn't see any of that? Cause I noticed if you you guys were there for summer league there would seem like there was a lot of guys like just.

• 1:16:20Speaker 04

  Yeah, I haven't been to Vegas in a couple of years. It's not really that that whole week's not for me. It's like you want to go to Vegas but everybody in the NBA is there.

• 1:16:26Speaker 00

  Yeah, right.

• 1:16:26Speaker 04

  So it's like.

• 1:16:27Speaker 00

  Did did those guys not get along when you were on the heat?

• 1:16:30Speaker 04

  No, they did.

• 1:16:31Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:16:31Speaker 04

  Yeah, I don't know what happened after I left the heat it it seems like things kind of.

• 1:16:36Speaker 00

  You should say something about Bam on this show right now and get smacked by him and then we can have you back on.

• 1:16:41Speaker 04

  No, no, me and Bam are tight. Me and Bam are tight. I I don't.

• 1:16:43Speaker 00

  That's not what you were saying before you came on.

• 1:16:45Speaker 04

  Yeah. It's changing when the cameras get in my face. Uh, no Bam's awesome and that's the last person I would.

• 1:16:51Speaker 00

  I would imagine.

• 1:16:52Speaker 04

  Speaking of Donovan Mitchell, I mean like Donovan Mitchell's a specimen but Bam Atabio is like.

• 1:16:56Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:16:56Speaker 04

  Holy shit.

• 1:16:57Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:16:57Speaker 04

  Big dude.

• 1:16:58Speaker 00

  That that run you guys had when you went to to the finals like that as an eight seed was that what what was it Spoh putting you guys in great spots? Was the team clicking at the right time because it was a it was incredible to see like that doesn't really happen in the NBA.

• 1:17:11Speaker 04

  We just like clicked at the right time. I mean, you can go back and look at history like the record book like during the season we were terrible.

• 1:17:18Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:17:18Speaker 04

  Like we were the one seed the year before and then like all season we were terrible we couldn't gel together nobody wanted to play it was like a mess. And then we lost our first playing game which was nuts going elimination game against the Bulls.

• 1:17:31Speaker 00

  Mm hmm.

• 1:17:31Speaker 04

  Down 16 in that game and like came back and won that game and then from there on it was like the Jimmy Butler show.

• 1:17:37Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:17:38Speaker 04

  I mean it was like the most unbelievable thing that was ever experienced and everybody kind of just like vibed off of that and. It was like the most like pure basketball I've ever played.

• 1:17:47Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:17:48Speaker 01

  I was gonna say what's Jimmy like when he dials in when you know that he's like absolutely focused locked in?

• 1:17:53Speaker 04

  I I don't think there's anything else like him.

• 1:17:55Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:17:55Speaker 04

  Uh, when he's like from what I experienced and what I saw during that time I've never seen anything like that in my life.

• 1:18:02Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:18:02Speaker 01

  Is that like obviously during the games like after the games before the games?

• 1:18:06Speaker 04

  Oh, he'll drink a beer in the hot tub after like he's just like. The most normal dude like he's an asshole for sure but like.

• 1:18:15Speaker 04

  He'll go and drink wine after the game, drink a couple beers and do it again the next day. Like he's just, he can just like, he is the most. He can get away from it so easily. And then when he has to turn it on, he can just like flip a switch in like the fourth quarter.

• 1:18:28Speaker 01

  Like what, what kind of asshole is he? Cause there's different kinds. There's the asshole that you're like, I wanna, I hate this guy. There's the asshole, it's like, you're a dick, but you're my asshole. So I love you.

• 1:18:38Speaker 04

  Yeah, it's kinda like that.

• 1:18:39Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:18:39Speaker 04

  Um, but he's also like an asshole towards you. Like one day you'll like look at him and he would just like won't even like acknowledge you.

• 1:18:44Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:18:45Speaker 04

  Like, you like, you could like go to dinner with him night before and like you're his best friend. And then the next morning you go to practice and he won't even like look at you or say hi to you. And it's like, damn, what did I do at dinner last night?

• 1:18:55Speaker 01

  Uh huh.

• 1:18:55Speaker 04

  It's just like, but then he'll, the game starts and he's your best friend again. It's just like, you gotta play like the card. Just like, ah, Jimmy's gonna be Jimmy.

• 1:19:02Speaker 01

  It's like you're always trying to earn back his respect or like always trying to make things okay between.

• 1:19:05Speaker 04

  Yeah, I just got to a point where I just didn't give a fuck anymore. And I was just like, all right, Jimmy's gonna be Jimmy and I'm gonna do my thing and hopefully we respect each other.

• 1:19:12Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's smart.

• 1:19:13Speaker 04

  And it ended up being good. We got a great handshake that we like flip each other off. So yeah, it's like.

• 1:19:16Speaker 01

  Oh, what was your handshake?

• 1:19:18Speaker 04

  We literally just like.

• 1:19:19Speaker 01

  That's the handshake?

• 1:19:19Speaker 04

  We literally just went like this. Yeah.

• 1:19:20Speaker 01

  Oh, that's a great handshake.

• 1:19:21Speaker 00

  That is great.

• 1:19:22Speaker 04

  Yeah. So it was basically like, fuck you, fuck you. But like, yeah, that was like our relationship. Yeah.

• 1:19:27Speaker 00

  Uh, speaking of teammates, how awesome is B-ball Paul?

• 1:19:31Speaker 04

  The man.

• 1:19:32Speaker 00

  I love him.

• 1:19:32Speaker 04

  I'm so happy for B-ball.

• 1:19:34Speaker 00

  I am too.

• 1:19:34Speaker 04

  Yeah. Coming out of, coming out of college, like if you guys would have met B-ball Paul as a freshman in college.

• 1:19:41Speaker 00

  Yeah. What was he like? Was he, I mean, cause I, we, we love it. We, I've been obsessed with B-ball Paul for a few years now. I actually bought his merch, which I'm pretty sure he just like.

• 1:19:49Speaker 04

  You're out the mud?

• 1:19:49Speaker 00

  Yeah, I'm out the mud. He sent me, I'm pretty sure he just like had it in his living room and just sent it to me.

• 1:19:54Speaker 04

  Yeah, that sounds about right.

• 1:19:55Speaker 00

  Cause I Venmo'd him directly, I think. Then he's like, got it. And then, and then just sent it to me.

• 1:20:01Speaker 04

  Yeah, that sounds like Paul.

• 1:20:02Speaker 00

  But it's, it's incredible. I mean, he's, he's incredible. He's been in the NBA for a while now and, and contributed.

• 1:20:07Speaker 04

  And if he would have played more in that Pistons series against us, we would have been struggling. Yeah. Uh, Paul's an unbelievable talent. Um, one of the most unique people though, like just like so out there.

• 1:20:21Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:20:22Speaker 04

  You're just like, what's up with Paul today? Like you just like, don't really know where he's at. But then like, he actually is there. Like he's a really smart kid. He just like, doesn't handle it very well.

• 1:20:29Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:20:30Speaker 04

  Fuck, I love Paul.

• 1:20:31Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:20:31Speaker 04

  And he's, he's like the same guy you wanna play with. Like he's just gonna show up and play hard and try to win. Yeah. Literally do everything you want somebody to do in basketball. He's just like, you're gonna ask him for a defensive scheme, like he'll just do it. Like he's can't really talk to you about it, but he'll just do it and it'll work. Yeah.

• 1:20:47Speaker 00

  Isn't it kinda crazy that there's like, DePaul's not, I mean, how many games did you guys win in your last year?

• 1:20:53Speaker 04

  It was like our most winning season in like the last 20 years.

• 1:20:55Speaker 01

  So what, like 12 or 11?

• 1:20:58Speaker 04

  I think it was 19.

• 1:20:59Speaker 00

  I listened to Paul, I mean, the, the renovations are gonna be good.

• 1:21:03Speaker 04

  Yeah, the new practice facility looks nice. Hopeman's, Hopeman's good though. I like what Hopeman's doing.

• 1:21:06Speaker 00

  I think he's good as well. I mean, they had a good season last year, like for DePaul, like getting back to a point where it's like, it's not a 20-point blowout.

• 1:21:13Speaker 04

  No, I was there a couple of weeks ago. They'll be competitive. I mean, it's gonna be better. They'll be competitive.

• 1:21:17Speaker 00

  But it is kinda crazy that two NBA guys were on that team. And it's like, DePaul hasn't.

• 1:21:21Speaker 04

  Honestly, we had another guy that probably could have played in the NBA, but he ended up hurting his wrist like the last game of the year. But I mean, we had that, my last year, our team was like very talented.

• 1:21:29Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:21:30Speaker 04

  We, when you look at it, we probably should have been in the tournament.

• 1:21:33Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:21:34Speaker 04

  Yeah. We were like, that beer in the Big East, everybody was like six and six going in like last week or eight and eight, whatever it is. And we were in like sixth place. We last, we lost our last game of the season at Creighton and we went from sixth to 14th.

• 1:21:46Speaker 00

  Ah.

• 1:21:46Speaker 04

  Or 12th. And then we lost.

• 1:21:48Speaker 00

  That's what can happen with it.

• 1:21:49Speaker 04

  Yeah, you literally, everybody was in the same little pod. And then we lost the first game of the tournament and we were done.

• 1:21:54Speaker 00

  That's it.

• 1:21:54Speaker 01

  What's the difference between getting drafted in like late second round and then being a free agent where you can go get a workout for like any team? Cause in the.

• 1:22:02Speaker 04

  Well, I've never been drafted, so I don't know.

• 1:22:04Speaker 01

  But in the NFL, we say like, players always talk about like, I wish I hadn't been drafted if they were picked in like the seventh round because you get more control over like what might be a better fit for you, that sort of thing.

• 1:22:12Speaker 04

  Basketball's kinda the same thing. I mean, second round picks now are basically just like two ways from what it sounds like. Um, but that's kinda the situation I had. Like, I probably could have got drafted like late in the second round, but my agent wanted a better situation for me, like team wise. So it was like, we'll just wait and see what our options are after the draft's over. And yeah, you kind of have your, your picking, like whoever you wanna go to, like teams you worked out with, teams you think is gonna be best fit for you. And um, you're able to like control your part of it a little more than just like going to a team and they draft you and now you're stuck with them.

• 1:22:43Speaker 01

  Yeah. I have a tough question for you. What's the, uh, the, the worst place to play on the road in terms of like the crowd, the stadium? What's a stadium that you fear?

• 1:22:51Speaker 04

  Like as far as like it's shitty or like it's like a hard place to play?

• 1:22:54Speaker 01

  Hard place to play.

• 1:22:56Speaker 04

  Um, I mean, when Madison Square gets rocking, it's, it's pretty tough. I'd say Philly also can get that way and Boston. Um, from my experience, I haven't really done much on the West Coast. Uh, but those three, those three places of can get loud.

• 1:23:11Speaker 00

  What about Denver with the Mile High stuff? Is it, can you feel it?

• 1:23:14Speaker 04

  Oh, yes. Yeah. From your, but like as far as like the fans, it wasn't like that crazy. Uh, but like, yes, your stamina and things like that. Like you're definitely tired. Yeah.

• 1:23:23Speaker 01

  Also Philly is pretty much like, that's New York because there's so many New York fans.

• 1:23:27Speaker 00

  Yeah, you basically picked New York twice.

• 1:23:28Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:23:29Speaker 01

  Cause they have jobs.

• 1:23:29Speaker 04

  Philly's like, they'll say whatever to you. Like, yeah, it's bad. Like they, they say some wild stuff.

• 1:23:35Speaker 00

  Yeah, unless the Knicks are playing them, cause then they'll say, let's go Knicks. Yeah, yeah.

• 1:23:39Speaker 01

  And then you're like, awesome, this is sick. Like if the Knicks can be good one day, that, that place is gonna go nuts.

• 1:23:44Speaker 04

  Right.

• 1:23:46Speaker 01

  This is us just trolling our entire booth right now.

• 1:23:48Speaker 00

  Yeah, they're all, they're, they're like not listening. Cause we're getting, you're getting the thumbs down from the other Max. Hey, Max on Max. You wanna ask Max a Max question?

• 1:23:57Speaker 02

  Are you Maxwell Maximilian?

• 1:24:00Speaker 04

  I'm straight up just Max.

• 1:24:01Speaker 02

  Wow.

• 1:24:01Speaker 00

  Whoa.

• 1:24:02Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:24:02Speaker 02

  I'm Maxwell.

• 1:24:03Speaker 04

  Ah, you're cooler than me.

• 1:24:05Speaker 00

  All right, that was cool. Max on Max. He's actually not even, he's, he's fake Max.

• 1:24:08Speaker 02

  My middle name is Max.

• 1:24:10Speaker 00

  Yeah, but he goes by Max. Yeah.

• 1:24:11Speaker 01

  Your first name is Max, right? You're real Max.

• 1:24:13Speaker 04

  First name is Max.

• 1:24:14Speaker 01

  He's like appropriating your culture.

• 1:24:15Speaker 04

  Yeah, I don't like that.

• 1:24:16Speaker 02

  Did anyone ever call you Maxi Pad growing up?

• 1:24:18Speaker 04

  Of course, I still get it to this day.

• 1:24:22Speaker 00

  It's good Max on Max. This segment to the max. Yeah. What, what other nicknames you get, do you guys get growing up?

• 1:24:30Speaker 04

  Maxi Pad's the worst.

• 1:24:31Speaker 02

  Yeah, Maxi Pad. It's.

• 1:24:32Speaker 04

  And really, everybody kinda just like stuck there. It was like.

• 1:24:35Speaker 02

  They think it's the first time you've ever heard it. And they think it'd be so funny. It's, it's the easiest thing to come up with ever.

• 1:24:41Speaker 04

  Or just like Maxi. I don't like Maxi either.

• 1:24:43Speaker 02

  I like, I like Maxi.

• 1:24:44Speaker 04

  All right.

• 1:24:45Speaker 02

  Well, I like.

• 1:24:46Speaker 00

  He's like a big, and he's also a big toddler.

• 1:24:48Speaker 04

  All right, all right.

• 1:24:49Speaker 02

  Yeah. I also like Min.

• 1:24:51Speaker 01

  What?

• 1:24:52Speaker 04

  Min or Max?

• 1:24:53Speaker 02

  Like minimum, maximum, the opposite.

• 1:24:56Speaker 01

  You're just men?

• 1:24:56Speaker 00

  What?

• 1:24:57Speaker 01

  Anyone ever call you men?

• 1:24:58Speaker 04

  I've never gotten that one. I don't know where that one came from.

• 1:25:00Speaker 02

  I just came up with that on the spot.

• 1:25:02Speaker 00

  Oh, wow. New nickname drops. That was crazy.

• 1:25:05Speaker 02

  It's like Tiny. It's like, I don't like it, but.

• 1:25:09Speaker 00

  Sounds like we gotta do it. Yeah, Min. Um, how many threes could you make in a row or have you made in a row in a practice? No, no defense.

• 1:25:19Speaker 04

  No defense. Uh, I think the most I've gotten is like 60 something.

• 1:25:23Speaker 00

  Oh my God.

• 1:25:24Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:25:25Speaker 01

  That's a lot. That's crazy.

• 1:25:26Speaker 04

  Yeah, you really gotta like, it's more mentally than just like the shooting ability. Like you, it's hard to focus when you're not.

• 1:25:32Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:25:32Speaker 04

  You're just like bored. You get bored, you know, it's just.

• 1:25:35Speaker 01

  You get bored because you make so many threes in a row?

• 1:25:37Speaker 04

  It's just like, you do it every day, you know, you're like, all right, like.

• 1:25:40Speaker 00

  It just routine.

• 1:25:42Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's a very cool feeling.

• 1:25:43Speaker 00

  Do you, you, you know right away if a shot's in, right?

• 1:25:46Speaker 04

  Usually.

• 1:25:46Speaker 00

  Yeah. Is there ever been like a big one that surprised you?

• 1:25:51Speaker 04

  Uh, probably the, the half court shot I made against Dallas.

• 1:25:53Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah, yeah.

• 1:25:54Speaker 04

  Yeah, that one surprised me. But I'm not gonna lie to you. I think I did know that that was good, had a really good chance of going in. I didn't, I didn't say I like knew, but it was like online and it felt awesome.

• 1:26:04Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:26:04Speaker 01

  When you guys play against the Celtics, are you like, hey, don't let Peyton Pritchard shoot in the last half second of a quarter?

• 1:26:09Speaker 04

  Yes. That's actually a talked about thing. Yeah.

• 1:26:11Speaker 00

  It should be. Is it talked about with?

• 1:26:13Speaker 04

  Yeah, you know where the ball's going to.

• 1:26:14Speaker 00

  Yeah. Is it talked about with Jokic at the last, uh, second of a quarter that he's trying to get a foul?

• 1:26:19Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:26:19Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:26:20Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:26:20Speaker 00

  Cause that's.

• 1:26:20Speaker 04

  All that stuff is like documented. Yeah. Everybody knows about those things.

• 1:26:23Speaker 00

  Yeah. How, how, how detailed is like, um, is, is like the film study before a game?

• 1:26:28Speaker 04

  Regular season? Not, not much. You'd be surprised. Yeah. Regular season's kinda just like, you play every other day. So like it's, you know, before the game, you'll do like a personnel report, but it's not like, let's lock in, get dialed in on this. Like it's just like, this is what his tendencies are and try to make him not do what he's good at.

• 1:26:46Speaker 00

  Right.

• 1:26:46Speaker 01

  So how much, how much longer is that in the playoffs?

• 1:26:48Speaker 04

  It's so much more.

• 1:26:50Speaker 01

  Like how much time do you spend in the playoffs making adjustments?

• 1:26:53Speaker 04

  Every day. I mean, all day, every day.

• 1:26:56Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:26:56Speaker 04

  In the game, the next day. Your first like two days before the series starts, it's like personnel, but you're like watching clips. You're like really dial in on what they do, what they're good at. And from there on, it's like, all right, we were forcing this guy left. He's been killing us going left. Let's, you know, try something else this time. So it's like every game, it's like something new happens. Like that's, that's the playoffs is adjustments like the whole time.

• 1:27:19Speaker 01

  Has there been a game plan that you can remember that went like perfectly according to plan? You win the game and you're like, damn, that was actually a great job by the scouts.

• 1:27:26Speaker 04

  Yeah. Yeah. Several times. Um, what would be a good one? Honestly, when I was in Miami, we played Harden in Philly. And like our scouting report on him was, was pretty good. We kind of just like forced him right and.

• 1:27:42Speaker 01

  You're giving away the scouting report.

• 1:27:43Speaker 04

  Yeah, I don't want to give it away too much because it was like, he's on my team now.

• 1:27:47Speaker 01

  What about the other way?

• 1:27:48Speaker 04

  But he fixed it. You know, you can't do that anymore. Yeah.

• 1:27:50Speaker 01

  He took that, actually you helped him get even better.

• 1:27:53Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 1:27:54Speaker 01

  He's like, yeah, hey, I appreciate that.

• 1:27:55Speaker 04

  He thanks me every day season.

• 1:27:57Speaker 01

  Yeah. What about the other way? Has been, has there been a scouting report where you're like, okay, we've got a great game plan? And then during the game, you're like, well, this isn't working.

• 1:28:05Speaker 04

  Yeah, I think the whole Knicks series.

• 1:28:06Speaker 01

  Yeah. Yeah. It's hard to game plan against that. Just like, it's the game plan is like, stop a dog.

• 1:28:11Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:28:12Speaker 01

  Did you, tough to do.

• 1:28:13Speaker 00

  Did you recognize that chair? Did you walk by that chair?

• 1:28:15Speaker 04

  I did see the chair.

• 1:28:16Speaker 00

  That was the one that Taylor Swift was sitting in game three.

• 1:28:18Speaker 04

  How much did you pay for that?

• 1:28:19Speaker 00

  Uh, we don't have to talk about it. I think it's 5,000. We don't have to talk about it. There's no reason to talk about that kind of stuff.

• 1:28:26Speaker 04

  All right.

• 1:28:27Speaker 00

  I mean, I was, I was about to say, how much do you make? But you could look it up. Fuck.

• 1:28:33Speaker 01

  If somebody asks you, just be like, that's so tacky to ask that question.

• 1:28:36Speaker 00

  Come on, man. If you have to ask, you can't afford it.

• 1:28:38Speaker 04

  Exactly.

• 1:28:39Speaker 00

  Why did you headbutt Scotty Barnes?

• 1:28:42Speaker 04

  That wasn't a headbutt.

• 1:28:43Speaker 00

  It was kind of a headbutt, Max.

• 1:28:45Speaker 04

  It was not meant to hit him in the head.

• 1:28:48Speaker 00

  Was it a nuzzle? Were you nuzzling him?

• 1:28:50Speaker 04

  I was just trying to, yeah, just, I just wanted to do it, you know, assert my presence. I just wanted to know that I was there. You know, I was having a good game. I was, I was feeling myself a little bit. I just wanted him to like, no, I was, you know, I'm, I'm still right here.

• 1:29:02Speaker 00

  Yeah. You hit him with the ponytail.

• 1:29:03Speaker 04

  Yeah. Yeah. The man bun.

• 1:29:05Speaker 00

  Yeah, the man bun. You kind of, you kind of like wiped his face with your man bun.

• 1:29:09Speaker 01

  Kind of a weapon. Yeah.

• 1:29:10Speaker 04

  It was, yeah. I don't think he liked it very much, so it worked.

• 1:29:13Speaker 01

  I'm watching. I think you can, I'm going to count that as headbutt. That's an official headbutt.

• 1:29:17Speaker 04

  Yeah. When I went back and looked at it, it doesn't look, it doesn't look good. But in the moment, I was not trying to headbutt him.

• 1:29:24Speaker 00

  Yeah. Yeah. That's fair. That's fair.

• 1:29:26Speaker 04

  Because when you look at it, I probably should have got kicked out of the game. Like when you look at it, it does look bad.

• 1:29:29Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:29:30Speaker 04

  But that was not my intention.

• 1:29:32Speaker 00

  But then you, I guess you could be like, hey, but it's, he's got a man bun. Like how much damage could he do?

• 1:29:37Speaker 04

  Right.

• 1:29:37Speaker 00

  You know, with his head, like he's, he's.

• 1:29:40Speaker 04

  That's another thing me and Max.

• 1:29:42Speaker 00

  Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The Max's have the man bun. Do you, do you sit, do you have a high ass crack? Max does. His ass crack's always showing.

• 1:29:51Speaker 01

  It's abnormally high. Yeah.

• 1:29:52Speaker 04

  No, I don't think my ass crack.

• 1:29:53Speaker 01

  Okay. Do you have a normal, a regular?

• 1:29:55Speaker 04

  Yes, I think so.

• 1:29:56Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:29:56Speaker 00

  Do you get, uh, do you sit crisscross applesauce?

• 1:29:59Speaker 04

  Never. I can't even do that.

• 1:30:01Speaker 00

  Oh, wow.

• 1:30:01Speaker 02

  It's just a name. It doesn't mean anything else.

• 1:30:04Speaker 00

  Well, no, he pointed out that you have a man bun. You weren't listening.

• 1:30:07Speaker 02

  I was.

• 1:30:08Speaker 00

  What were we talking about? What were we talking about right before that?

• 1:30:11Speaker 02

  If I had a hand, I had a man bun.

• 1:30:14Speaker 00

  But what about that? Well, who did he hit with the man bun?

• 1:30:18Speaker 01

  He wasn't listening. No. You would, you would have said it already if you had.

• 1:30:22Speaker 00

  Scotty Barnes.

• 1:30:23Speaker 02

  Oh, as a future face of this league.

• 1:30:27Speaker 01

  Not anymore because Max's hair is all over it. Um, if there's one team in the East that like maybe hasn't been that good in the past. And you're looking at like, hey, that team is probably going to be much better than we've seen next season. What team would you pick for that?

• 1:30:41Speaker 04

  Toronto.

• 1:30:42Speaker 01

  Yeah. Yeah. Same.

• 1:30:43Speaker 00

  Well, like another team.

• 1:30:49Speaker 04

  I think everybody else is like, kind of known at this point in the East.

• 1:30:52Speaker 00

  But maybe like an up and like, they had like the first pick or something.

• 1:30:56Speaker 01

  No, I don't, don't lead them.

• 1:30:57Speaker 00

  I'm not leading them.

• 1:30:58Speaker 01

  Don't lead them.

• 1:30:59Speaker 00

  I'm saying maybe.

• 1:30:59Speaker 04

  Who are you guys trying to get me to say?

• 1:31:01Speaker 01

  No, I'm just curious.

• 1:31:01Speaker 00

  I said, maybe if they had the first pick this past year.

• 1:31:04Speaker 01

  In the East that have been very bad for a long time that you're looking at, maybe that's, maybe next season they won't be that bad anymore.

• 1:31:11Speaker 04

  Do you think the Wizards are going to be good?

• 1:31:12Speaker 01

  I do. Yeah.

• 1:31:13Speaker 00

  Whoa, that's crazy. Why would you say the Wizards?

• 1:31:15Speaker 01

  But that's not, that, my question wasn't about the Wizards necessarily. It sounds like you went there though. So you think the Wizards are going to be better?

• 1:31:22Speaker 04

  I got some hints. Um, I, they'll be better. I don't know if they'll be good though.

• 1:31:26Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's fine. Better is good.

• 1:31:28Speaker 00

  Better is, yeah. Better is.

• 1:31:30Speaker 01

  Maybe win 20 games.

• 1:31:32Speaker 04

  They should.

• 1:31:32Speaker 00

  25?

• 1:31:33Speaker 04

  Maybe 25.

• 1:31:34Speaker 01

  I'm thinking, you know how long it's been since they won 50 games?

• 1:31:37Speaker 04

  I don't.

• 1:31:37Speaker 01

  Since they invented the three point line.

• 1:31:40Speaker 00

  Really? Yeah.

• 1:31:41Speaker 04

  John Wall and Brad Beal never?

• 1:31:42Speaker 01

  I think they got 49. I think they got 48 or 49, but no, not 50. Yeah.

• 1:31:46Speaker 00

  Stop that. We're full.

• 1:31:47Speaker 01

  Well, we got too good at the sport and then the NBA changed the rules. Like let's add in a Mickey Mouse three point shot.

• 1:31:53Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:31:53Speaker 01

  All to stop the Wizards or I guess the Bullets at the time.

• 1:31:55Speaker 04

  I was going to say, were you still the Bullets at that point?

• 1:31:57Speaker 01

  The Bullets. Yeah. RIP the Bullets. Um, all right. Well, that, that blew up in my face a little bit. Tell me about the Raptors though. We do like the Raptors. They are a fun team.

• 1:32:04Speaker 04

  I think getting Kawhi helps. I mean, people don't give the Cavs credit for what we did in the playoffs. Like everybody's like, oh, he went to seven games then, but like Toronto was a good team. Like Toronto and like they had, you know, Brandon Young got hurt and they had guys like step up and like their, their defense was phenomenal. And I think adding Kawhi to that is only going to help. And I think Scotty Barnes is a very good basketball player and he's going to be very good for a long time. So.

• 1:32:27Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:32:28Speaker 04

  I just think that they're, they're moving right along like the trajectory, trajectory, trajectory. Holy shit.

• 1:32:33Speaker 01

  You got it.

• 1:32:34Speaker 04

  Yeah. Of where they should be going and where they're going to be good. So I, I think they have potential.

• 1:32:39Speaker 00

  Yeah. Um, all right. Uh, so we have one, I got one last question. Again, uh, your pickleball tournament, there still are, uh, tickets available. Use spec 15, uh, and you can get a 15% off. So for spectator passes available for the pickleball event.

• 1:32:56Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:32:57Speaker 00

  And you could see Max, who does not have a dooper, compete in this.

• 1:33:01Speaker 04

  We did not check dupers for anybody. So I don't know if anybody.

• 1:33:04Speaker 00

  Oh, you're going to get some sandbaggers.

• 1:33:05Speaker 04

  Yeah. Yeah. There might be some dupers.

• 1:33:07Speaker 00

  Yeah. Uh, but Kate's going to be there. We're going to, I, I might try to stop by. I got to see if I can get back in town, uh, fast enough for.

• 1:33:14Speaker 04

  Yeah. We got the coffee. We got Stella Blue in there.

• 1:33:16Speaker 00

  No Blues will be there. So they're, they're doing great stuff. So, so go right now, uh, to the Max Drews Family Foundation and spec 15 for 15% off. An awesome event on Sunday.

• 1:33:26Speaker 04

  Two bars open. Come on.

• 1:33:28Speaker 00

  Perfect.

• 1:33:28Speaker 04

  Yeah. 10 to two, all you can drink.

• 1:33:29Speaker 00

  It's perfect. Uh, all right. So Roback question, R H O B A C K dot com promo code take 20% off your first purchase. Q Zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, roback.com promo code take. Zach, your last question for Max.

• 1:33:41Speaker 04

  How are you doing today, Max? I did have a quick question. Uh, I do want to say congratulations on your playoff run last year. Uh, that was pretty strong. Uh, but I was curious, uh, it felt like when you guys got to that Eastern Conference final and it did start to slip away a little bit. You made sure to stay in a competitive headspace the entire time. Uh, what kind of goes into that? How did you keep your foot on the gas even when it started to fade? Great question.

• 1:34:01Speaker 00

  Great question. He's also a Knicks fan. So that was kind of a, that was a fake nice question.

• 1:34:06Speaker 04

  Yeah. It was like a compliment.

• 1:34:08Speaker 00

  Go through how you stayed locked in when we kicked your ass. Yeah.

• 1:34:12Speaker 04

  That's the truth. I mean, they, they did kick our ass. Um, that's just how I'm wired. I mean, that's just how I've always played the game is like, you don't stop until it's over. And, um, I'm going to compete as hard as I can and try to do what I can to help our team win. And that's, that's what I can control. So I just like, kind of stay in that mindset of like, this is what I need to do. This is my job at this given moment. And try to do that to the best of my ability to help our team win. And unfortunately that wasn't helping much.

• 1:34:42Speaker 00

  Good question.

• 1:34:42Speaker 04

  But I appreciate the question.

• 1:34:43Speaker 00

  Yeah. Do you have a follow up, Zach?

• 1:34:45Speaker 04

  Uh, do you hit the tweeners on the pickleball court? Are you usually just forehand, backhand? Forehand, backhand. Got you. Yeah. Keep it real simple. I just try to keep it in play and make the other person make a mistake.

• 1:34:54Speaker 00

  Okay. That's smart. Yeah. It's really smart.

• 1:34:57Speaker 04

  Just like ping pong.

• 1:34:57Speaker 00

  Yeah. Yeah.

• 1:34:58Speaker 04

  That's it.

• 1:34:59Speaker 00

  Um, all right. Well, Max, thank you. Uh, great having you stop by and everyone do check it out. It's a great event. 10 to two, all you can drink. And, uh, play some pickleball.

• 1:35:09Speaker 04

  Absolutely. It's going to be a great time. Yeah. Yes. Thank you for having me.

• 1:35:12Speaker 00

  Hopefully you're still on the Cavs when we run this. We'll see.

• 1:35:14Speaker 04

  We shall see.

• 1:35:15Speaker 00

  I hope, I hope you're on the Wizards. That would be awesome.

• 1:35:19Speaker 04

  Then, then they're going to be good next year.

• 1:35:21Speaker 00

  The missing piece.

• 1:35:22Speaker 04

  Yeah.

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• 1:37:02Speaker 00

  Okay. Let's wrap up the show. Fire Fest of the week. My pre-fire fest is I'm going to miss the fuck out of Max for the next two weeks. Two weeks is a long ass time, dude. Yeah.

• 1:37:14Speaker 03

  Unlimited vacation. Take advantage.

• 1:37:16Speaker 00

  Yeah. Hank, your fire fest?

• 1:37:18Speaker 03

  Uh, my fire fest is that I think I'm in the clear, but this morning I was very close to getting fish scammed by my mom.

• 1:37:27Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 1:37:28Speaker 01

  What happened?

• 1:37:30Speaker 00

  Oh, Business Pete put her up to it?

• 1:37:31Speaker 03

  He was the first person I, I texted. I woke up, checked my phone and had an.

• 1:37:36Speaker 01

  That's a bad day when the first person you text is old business Pete.

• 1:37:39Speaker 03

  I had an email from my mom and it was like an invitation. And like, I don't know where the, I got, I got a family wedding coming up. Like I just, I didn't really think about it. It was like from my mom's email. An invitation. I clicked the link and then the link didn't load. So I like exited it out. And then I saw like my phone was on do not disturb. So I didn't see the text messages from my mom, like texting my family, being like, don't open an email for me. I got hacked. And at that point I'd already clicked into it. I did not put my information in, so I think I'm in the clear, but it was a, it was a, it was, we do so much. Fishing, training, and like, there's so many scams going on that I've, I've pretty good at besides the toll one. Uh.

• 1:38:24Speaker 04

  And so that was, that was just a tough morning where it's like, it's, it's not coming from, you know, work or anything. It's, it's from within, it's from the fam.

• 1:38:30Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's tough. Cause that would, that's definitely one that you would fall for.

• 1:38:35Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:38:35Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:38:36Speaker 01

  You gotta have a code, a code word.

• 1:38:39Speaker 04

  What do you mean?

• 1:38:40Speaker 01

  Like if it's actually me, I'll say this code word.

• 1:38:44Speaker 04

  What do you mean?

• 1:38:44Speaker 01

  Like with your parents.

• 1:38:45Speaker 04

  Well, this is just an email.

• 1:38:46Speaker 00

  It was an email.

• 1:38:47Speaker 01

  But in the email, they could use a code word. If it's real.

• 1:38:49Speaker 00

  Every email has to have a code word.

• 1:38:51Speaker 01

  Sign off with the code word.

• 1:38:53Speaker 04

  Yeah, I think I'm good. But if, if you see, if, if there's

• 1:38:56Speaker 01

  I'd start to help.

• 1:38:57Speaker 04

  Anything that comes up this, this weekend, I may or may not have gotten that.

• 1:39:00Speaker 00

  What was the, what was the email? Was it Spotify? Was she asking you to, to vote for her podcast on Spotify?

• 1:39:05Speaker 04

  It was an invitation.

• 1:39:07Speaker 00

  Oh, ah, that's fucked.

• 1:39:09Speaker 04

  And like we had, like going to like a wedding in September, like my cousin's wedding. So I just like, kind of assumed it was somehow tied into that or something. I don't know.

• 1:39:18Speaker 00

  That's fucked.

• 1:39:20Speaker 01

  Okay. PFT? Uh, my Fire Fest, it's tied into what I talked about on, on Wednesday's show. Uh, Jerry O'Connell is now officially back in.

• 1:39:29Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:39:30Speaker 01

  The fantasy group for the, uh, for the draft planning, which is great because he's doing this fancy preview with us next week.

• 1:39:36Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:39:37Speaker 01

  And, um, the draft's coming up very shortly here. So I introduced him, first of all, I finally got a call back from him at like 5:00 PM, the day that we recorded that show. Turns out Jerry got a new phone.

• 1:39:48Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 1:39:49Speaker 01

  And it's also an Android. So.

• 1:39:51Speaker 00

  Of course.

• 1:39:52Speaker 01

  Uh,

• 1:39:53Speaker 00

  Deep web shit.

• 1:39:54Speaker 01

  Automatically kicked him out of that group chat. I don't know why. So he got the new phone. I reintroduced him back. We, I was looking back through the history of this group chat for the last like two weeks. It's been blue dots. People have been emphasizing.

• 1:40:07Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah. And probably everyone's free to do whatever they want.

• 1:40:10Speaker 01

  We've had a fantastic time in this group chat over the last two weeks. I dropped Jerry back in there and immediately turns green. I had to apologize. Sorry about the green bubble. We had some nice blue ones there for a while. And so immediately Jerry jumps back in, starts spamming the group chat with pictures of him with celebrities and, um, saying, now, now he's trying to say that we can't raise the buy-in for the team this year.

• 1:40:34Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 1:40:34Speaker 01

  He had a direct quote, guys, please do not raise the buy-in. A lot of my Pokemon cards have lost their value. And then people replied like LOL, crying face. And Jerry goes, not a joke. So Jerry's trying to talk them off of raising the buy.

• 1:40:48Speaker 00

  I want to raise it. We'll raise it. We'll fund it.

• 1:40:50Speaker 01

  We can raise it.

• 1:40:51Speaker 00

  We'll fund it.

• 1:40:52Speaker 01

  It's not a problem. I already told him that I'm willing to, to foot the bill. Uh, so Jerry's back in the group chat and he's, you know, as Jerry does dominating, which means that there's just a shitload of green coming across and it's just, it's just Jerry making a lot of jokes.

• 1:41:05Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:41:05Speaker 01

  Just cracking a lot of jokes. And so that's been blowing out my phone, but I'm glad that we are back in.

• 1:41:09Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:41:10Speaker 01

  Problem solved.

• 1:41:11Speaker 00

  Fuck yes. We're back. Um, okay. I've had a pretty good week. I mean, the book, book launch has been awesome. Thank you, everyone who's bought.

• 1:41:17Speaker 01

  Can I give you a Fyre Fest for the book launch?

• 1:41:19Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:41:19Speaker 01

  Big Cat has, has kind of like dubbed himself, uh, customer relations at Target in Barnes and Noble now.

• 1:41:26Speaker 00

  What do you mean?

• 1:41:27Speaker 01

  When you're like, I talked to people, uh, they're out of books right now, but they should be getting some back in.

• 1:41:31Speaker 00

  Well, no, I went.

• 1:41:32Speaker 01

  Yeah. In the next, in the next.

• 1:41:32Speaker 00

  Yeah, I went. I went. And I was like, cause I, I like going and signing it for people. And, uh, I went to Barnes and Noble. They're like, it's all sold out. I was like, fuck, when are you getting more? What were you gonna say memes?

• 1:41:44Speaker 02

  How, how, I got a DM. Are you signing these with pens from inside the Target?

• 1:41:51Speaker 00

  Oh, oh yeah. I, I opened up a Sharpie pack and then just left it.

• 1:41:54Speaker 02

  Yeah. Someone said there was just a.

• 1:41:56Speaker 00

  I realized that after. I meant to go pay for the Sharpie pack, the Sharpies. And then I was like, I was late to the shoot we had yesterday. And then as I got there, I was like, oh, fuck, I didn't pay for the Sharpie. It was one single Sharpie in a pack. My bad target. Hand up. But I did, I did sign those books. But yeah, it's been fun. Um, thank you, everyone who's bought. Keep buying. Uh, we really appreciate it. Uh, the, the, the guy who pointed out that we, I think it was in the ninth page, I opened up a parentheses and never closed it. So everything past the ninth page is a clarification of the first eight pages. That's the part of my book difference.

• 1:42:34Speaker 01

  Including this podcast.

• 1:42:35Speaker 00

  Yeah. Yeah. Everything there. Uh, but yeah, my Fyre Fest, I, I bet, yeah. Great week. Got the big check. That was cool. Brought my own big check. I am a little like, winning two times on 50/50. I now expect to win, which is a ridiculous thing in my head where I, I was like, yeah, I'm gonna win again. So then I get a little bummed out. But my real Fyre Fest is we went, so we were at the inter invitation last week. We flew back on Thursday. We actually flew back with, uh, our good friend Andrew Santino. And, uh, Zach got to meet Andrew Santino, talked to him. I was like, Zach, ask him anything. I found out afterwards Zach didn't ask him everything he wanted to ask him.

• 1:43:15Speaker 00

  What? Turn on your mics.

• 1:43:17Speaker 04

  It's up to Big Cat.

• 1:43:18Speaker 00

  What, what do you say to Max?

• 1:43:20Speaker 02

  We might have to put Zach on the couch just so you hear his reaction to that.

• 1:43:22Speaker 04

  Uh, yeah.

• 1:43:24Speaker 02

  He turns to me and goes, you're the worst guy ever. Yeah. I didn't think he, I didn't, I thought maybe that we, we could work this offline. I didn't bring this online.

• 1:43:33Speaker 04

  I don't really know what we're talking about. Uh, Andrew Santino, uh, Bad Friends, great show. Out on all platforms, Apple, Spotify, YouTube. Great guy. Andrew Santino, shout to him.

• 1:43:41Speaker 00

  All right. So I won't get into details, but if you were to say, uh, you can't pick Bobby or Andrew Santino as your favorite parts of the Bad Friends podcast, what would be your third favorite or in one first favorite?

• 1:43:53Speaker 04

  I'll go with the fancy in the booth.

• 1:43:55Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 1:43:55Speaker 04

  To him. Great guy.

• 1:43:56Speaker 00

  Wait.

• 1:43:57Speaker 04

  He's a film producer, does a lot of fun videos.

• 1:43:59Speaker 00

  Who else is in the booth?

• 1:44:01Speaker 04

  Uh, they got, they, I think they have like a three man booth.

• 1:44:04Speaker 00

  All men?

• 1:44:05Speaker 04

  Yeah, the booth. Yeah. A lot of men in the booth. Yeah.

• 1:44:08Speaker 00

  Do they have any?

• 1:44:08Speaker 04

  To the booth.

• 1:44:09Speaker 00

  Do they have any producers?

• 1:44:10Speaker 04

  They got, they got reoccurring guests. Uh, I, I think the lady who plays in the band on Kill Tony is reoccurring at, uh, once upon a time, uh,

• 1:44:18Speaker 00

  What about the girl who's obsessed with eating Uncrustables that, uh, we could maybe have you go out on a date with?

• 1:44:24Speaker 04

  Oh no, she sits on the inflatable couches. That's not the booth.

• 1:44:27Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 1:44:27Speaker 04

  Yeah. Great show. What a show. You guys could all, should all check it out. It's a great show.

• 1:44:32Speaker 00

  I don't know. She loves Uncrustables.

• 1:44:35Speaker 04

  Great. I will say great snack choice.

• 1:44:36Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:44:37Speaker 04

  Uncrustables fantastic sandwich.

• 1:44:38Speaker 00

  You have great eyes.

• 1:44:39Speaker 04

  I've got a, I actually have a, I, well, I don't know if I have any more cause I did move. I did have an Uncrustable puncher. So I could make Uncrustables at home.

• 1:44:46Speaker 00

  Oh, you had your own?

• 1:44:47Speaker 04

  Yeah. They, they make ones you can just punch them out.

• 1:44:49Speaker 00

  Fuck yeah.

• 1:44:49Speaker 04

  Yeah. So you could do it with ham and cheese and peanut butter and jelly.

• 1:44:51Speaker 00

  Sounds like you guys would make a great couple.

• 1:44:53Speaker 04

  I, I, great show. They, they run a great program there. We've got quite the program here.

• 1:44:59Speaker 00

  And we're friends with each other.

• 1:45:01Speaker 04

  Yeah, that is true. Yeah.

• 1:45:02Speaker 00

  Yeah. We should do a collab.

• 1:45:04Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:45:05Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:45:06Speaker 04

  Shout out to, uh, thanks for being a bad friend.

• 1:45:09Speaker 00

  Yeah. Shout out to guys. Santino, Bobby, and what's her name again?

• 1:45:13Speaker 04

  Uh, Rudy Jewels, her name. Yeah.

• 1:45:14Speaker 00

  Rudy Jewels. Yeah. Yeah. Shout out to her as well. And everyone in the booth. And everyone on the inflatable couch.

• 1:45:19Speaker 01

  Are we shouting her out equally?

• 1:45:20Speaker 00

  Yes. Right?

• 1:45:23Speaker 04

  Yeah. Yeah. Everybody on the program. Great show.

• 1:45:25Speaker 00

  How big a shout out should Rudy Jewels get?

• 1:45:26Speaker 01

  You tell us because.

• 1:45:27Speaker 02

  He just says such funny stuff off mic.

• 1:45:30Speaker 00

  Of course he does. What do you, what do you just say?

• 1:45:31Speaker 02

  He said, my Fyre Fest of the week is fucking Max.

• 1:45:35Speaker 00

  It's Max.

• 1:45:35Speaker 01

  What in Max's studio?

• 1:45:37Speaker 02

  This is what I, I didn't know he was bringing this to the show. You told, this is what I'm, I'm, I'm gonna point this out. I'm gonna point this out. We are here.

• 1:45:44Speaker 04

  You're an untrustworthy member of this booth. No, this booth is not safe and it's 99% of the reason is you.

• 1:45:50Speaker 02

  I was trying to help. I was trying to help. We get it. We get into the car on the, on the way home from the plane and Zach goes, I was thinking the whole time of how I could ask if she was single.

• 1:46:00Speaker 04

  That's not what happened. See, now he's, now we're, we're taking facts.

• 1:46:03Speaker 02

  And then he was, but then he was like, I, he was like, I never got there. I was like, we can make this happen. I'll text Big Cat, who will text Santino. And all of that was supposed to be offline. I didn't bring this online.

• 1:46:14Speaker 00

  But then, you think you can bring it to Big Cat? Yeah. Well, you, I know, but he brought it to me and then I did call, I called Santino and I said, hey, and Santino's a massive fan of you Zach. He's like, that was so funny being able to chop it up with him.

• 1:46:26Speaker 04

  I was nervous for that. Cause I'm a big fan of Andrew.

• 1:46:27Speaker 00

  Yeah. I explained to him the situation and he said, bring it up on PMT. So then we can play it on Bad Friends and we can have a little exchange back and forth. So that's what this is right now.

• 1:46:38Speaker 02

  I had no idea of any of this. Big Cat.

• 1:46:41Speaker 00

  That's facts.

• 1:46:41Speaker 02

  I had no idea that any of this was happening.

• 1:46:43Speaker 00

  He had no idea.

• 1:46:44Speaker 04

  All I did, all I did was say to Max.

• 1:46:46Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 1:46:46Speaker 02

  Breaking me loose.

• 1:46:47Speaker 00

  Oh, no.

• 1:46:48Speaker 04

  James Harden has agreed to a new three-year, $97 million contract with the Cavs.

• 1:46:52Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 1:46:53Speaker 01

  Oh, all right.

• 1:46:54Speaker 00

  Huge.

• 1:46:55Speaker 01

  Huge.

• 1:46:56Speaker 02

  That was a tough reaction.

• 1:46:57Speaker 01

  For the Cavs. All right. Yeah. Santino, what do you think about the, uh, James Harden extension?

• 1:47:02Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 1:47:02Speaker 01

  Break that down too.

• 1:47:03Speaker 00

  Gross.

• 1:47:04Speaker 01

  Um, can we get a zoom in? Does that camera zoom in on, on Zach's beautiful eyes?

• 1:47:07Speaker 02

  Unfortunately not.

• 1:47:08Speaker 01

  Zach, can you just look at the camera though?

• 1:47:10Speaker 04

  Go on 50.

• 1:47:11Speaker 00

  See it? See what happens with Rudy Jewels?

• 1:47:13Speaker 04

  Are we?

• 1:47:13Speaker 02

  Go sit on the couch. Go sit on the couch.

• 1:47:15Speaker 00

  Oh yeah. She sits on the couch. You sit on the couch.

• 1:47:17Speaker 02

  On the couch.

• 1:47:18Speaker 04

  There's, there's a pretty cool kind of inflatable. Ours is more standard, but.

• 1:47:20Speaker 00

  Dude, this would actually be like huge if we, if we just.

• 1:47:25Speaker 02

  He just goes, I hope it rains in Italy.

• 1:47:29Speaker 00

  If we combine two podcasts through marriage, would be incredible.

• 1:47:34Speaker 01

  Yeah. Consolidate power. That's how they used to do it back in medieval times. Have a seat Zach.

• 1:47:41Speaker 00

  Zach.

• 1:47:42Speaker 01

  Look into the camera. Show the, show the baby blues off. Show the baby blues off Zach.

• 1:47:47Speaker 00

  Looking great.

• 1:47:47Speaker 04

  Good show, guys.

• 1:47:48Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:47:49Speaker 04

  Numbers?

• 1:47:50Speaker 00

  Uh, no, you have a Fyre Fest.

• 1:47:51Speaker 02

  Look at the camera.

• 1:47:52Speaker 00

  Oh yeah. Look at the fire. Look at the camera. See it? Nope. You know where it is.

• 1:47:56Speaker 02

  There it is.

• 1:47:56Speaker 00

  You look good.

• 1:47:57Speaker 04

  Too con.

• 1:47:58Speaker 00

  How do you feel? You're happy Max is going on vacation?

• 1:48:00Speaker 04

  The way, yeah. The, listen, the way that came up is we, we were on, we were, we were chopping it up as guys do in travel. He, Andrew's asking dating questions. So like, oh, Max, I, what a bummer. I should have, that was like a perfect segue to just shoot the shot through via Andrew.

• 1:48:17Speaker 00

  Yeah. Cause he was asking you about your dating life.

• 1:48:19Speaker 04

  Yes. That's, that's, and all I said to Max, I, I definitely said to Max in like a not hot mic situation, but now we're here. Uh, yeah. Uh,

• 1:48:28Speaker 02

  Fuck Max. Yeah. Fuck.

• 1:48:29Speaker 04

  No, shout out to Max. I hope you have a great time in Italy.

• 1:48:31Speaker 02

  You just said that you hope it rains.

• 1:48:32Speaker 04

  Yeah. But yeah, that's, but it's a.

• 1:48:33Speaker 01

  Cause it's so wet.

• 1:48:34Speaker 04

  But it's a honeymoon. You guys aren't going outside.

• 1:48:36Speaker 00

  Vacation. Yeah. You want to be inside.

• 1:48:38Speaker 04

  Sex in the rain, probably pretty cool.

• 1:48:39Speaker 00

  You're having a sex vacation.

• 1:48:40Speaker 02

  Culture vacation.

• 1:48:41Speaker 01

  Max, yeah. Max and, uh, Zach, you also have a little bit in common. Your Fyre Fest is fucking Max.

• 1:48:45Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:48:47Speaker 01

  There's a bit of that going around for the next two weeks.

• 1:48:49Speaker 00

  Isn't the culture of Italy having sex? The horniest people in the world.

• 1:48:53Speaker 02

  That, that's not true.

• 1:48:54Speaker 00

  Okay. So.

• 1:48:55Speaker 01

  Meatballs and sex.

• 1:48:56Speaker 00

  This is a good thing. Sounds awful. This is a good thing.

• 1:48:58Speaker 04

  Yeah. Croissants, sex, maybe conception. That can be cool.

• 1:49:02Speaker 01

  Oh, wow.

• 1:49:02Speaker 04

  Pod baby.

• 1:49:03Speaker 01

  He's wishing a baby on you.

• 1:49:04Speaker 00

  All right. But this is a good thing, Zach, because now we have the.

• 1:49:07Speaker 01

  Wishing a baby on a man on a honeymoon is crazy.

• 1:49:10Speaker 04

  It's a beautiful thing. Start a family. Little Max.

• 1:49:13Speaker 00

  Rudy Jewels is gonna see us. Be like, hey, this guy's funny.

• 1:49:15Speaker 01

  You know what they could call, they could call little Max men.

• 1:49:18Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:49:19Speaker 04

  Great nickname.

• 1:49:20Speaker 00

  Great nickname. Did you have a fire fest?

• 1:49:23Speaker 04

  Uh, yes, sir. My, my fire fest of the week is just, uh, my neighbors may or may not be having the most sex possible.

• 1:49:29Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 1:49:29Speaker 04

  Like, my neighbors are fucking, boys. And it's like-

• 1:49:32Speaker 01

  Wait, wait, what?

• 1:49:33Speaker 04

  I'm not fucking, my neighbors are fucking.

• 1:49:35Speaker 01

  What did you, that could be-

• 1:49:36Speaker 04

  Oh, I was saying, yeah, that's, I didn't put a comma in speech there. Not a grammar pod, sorry.

• 1:49:42Speaker 00

  Not a grammar pod at all.

• 1:49:43Speaker 04

  It just happened. They're like, they're having way too much fun. They are just with adults. Yeah, them two, this, that's crazy. Yes, two consensual adults in the apartment next to me.

• 1:49:54Speaker 01

  Do you live in an island?

• 1:49:55Speaker 04

  It's like a contact sport to run in there. Like, these two are running Oklahoma drills with orgasms, PFT. It's unreal. Big cat.

• 1:50:05Speaker 00

  You taking questions?

• 1:50:07Speaker 04

  Yes, sir. Floor is open to queues.

• 1:50:10Speaker 00

  So you're listening to your neighbors having sex. You aren't, it's being forced upon you.

• 1:50:16Speaker 04

  Yeah, well, not, but look, what they do in their own space is their business, but it's like audibly-

• 1:50:21Speaker 00

  Yeah, I have a two-part question.

• 1:50:23Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 1:50:24Speaker 00

  Is it hot?

• 1:50:26Speaker 04

  I don't know, I have, no, but they're having a great time.

• 1:50:31Speaker 00

  What, are they good looking? Have you listened?

• 1:50:34Speaker 04

  I have no choice but to listen, big cat. How do I, like, knock on the door?

• 1:50:39Speaker 00

  No, solo. Have you gone?

• 1:50:41Speaker 04

  Are you asking if I'm pulling a cuck move with my, no.

• 1:50:44Speaker 00

  Are you jerking off to listen to your neighbors have sex?

• 1:50:46Speaker 04

  I'm usually headphones in.

• 1:50:47Speaker 00

  Have you thought about it, though?

• 1:50:48Speaker 04

  No, no. If anything, it's like, damn, so there are people just out there having so much sex.

• 1:50:52Speaker 00

  See Rudy, Jules, great guy.

• 1:50:55Speaker 01

  I think, uh, technically, you're participating in the threesome every time that happens.

• 1:50:59Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:50:59Speaker 04

  That's not true. We just, square footage wise, we're close.

• 1:51:03Speaker 01

  Yeah, real close.

• 1:51:04Speaker 04

  But there's a wall.

• 1:51:05Speaker 00

  Have you seen the neighbors?

• 1:51:07Speaker 04

  Haven't, no, I haven't run into them at all.

• 1:51:08Speaker 00

  Oh, because this could change everything. What if they are hot?

• 1:51:10Speaker 04

  That's the thing, I don't, they like, that's what how people do, right? Just have sex all the time. So like, I thought maybe they could be, but, uh, yeah, shout to them. I mean, it's, it's weird times, too. Like, usually it's like nighttime, but we get home late sometimes. And I've been just like in the bed, like, all right, time to go to bed, throw the YouTube on, get a snack. It's like, you guys are fucking at 3 a.m.

• 1:51:29Speaker 00

  They, they wait for you.

• 1:51:32Speaker 04

  That's, that can't be the case.

• 1:51:33Speaker 00

  That is absolutely the case. They wait to hear your door close, and then they're like, he's home, now we'll give him a show.

• 1:51:40Speaker 04

  Well, then that should be a crime. They shouldn't be able to do that.

• 1:51:42Speaker 00

  I don't disagree, but just so you know, you, that is, that's what's happening.

• 1:51:46Speaker 04

  But it's also been like, I've been folding clothes on the bed, like, middle of the day, weekend, and they're just like having the time of their lives.

• 1:51:53Speaker 01

  Are you, are you hearing more of like a furniture sound, or is it the people's voices?

• 1:51:57Speaker 04

  No, PFT, I'm hearing body contact, like it's a joint practice.

• 1:52:03Speaker 01

  You're hearing thwacking, skin on skin.

• 1:52:05Speaker 00

  Are you hearing?

• 1:52:06Speaker 04

  And also shout to that guy, because-

• 1:52:08Speaker 00

  It sound like a tennis match? It sound like Wimbledon.

• 1:52:11Speaker 04

  It does, it's definitely going on, yeah, yeah.

• 1:52:13Speaker 01

  Wow. You're hearing this?

• 1:52:16Speaker 04

  Oh, look.

• 1:52:19Speaker 01

  Is that what it sounds like?

• 1:52:21Speaker 04

  Well, congratulations to that guy and that couple.

• 1:52:25Speaker 04

  But I will say that the middle of the day thing made me think it was, wasn't on the up and up, like, it was like, like adultery. Maybe I'm thinking too far into it, but I don't know. So, yeah, my fire fest of the week is just, uh-

• 1:52:37Speaker 02

  I didn't mean for this, I didn't mean for this to go online. I promise, I didn't mean-

• 1:52:40Speaker 00

  That's a very fair fire fest.

• 1:52:42Speaker 04

  I'll get Max. It's just on the, it's just us in here, right?

• 1:52:45Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:52:46Speaker 02

  But I didn't-

• 1:52:46Speaker 04

  Nobody listens to the show, you're fine.

• 1:52:48Speaker 02

  Yeah, you're good.

• 1:52:49Speaker 00

  Numbers.

• 1:52:52Speaker 00

  All right, numbers.

• 1:52:54Speaker 02

  Five.

• 1:52:55Speaker 04

  Fifty-five.

• 1:52:57Speaker 00

  Three.

• 1:52:57Speaker 04

  Sixty-three.

• 1:52:59Speaker 01

  See you in court.

• 1:52:59Speaker 04

  Eight.

• 1:53:00Speaker 01

  Five. I'm gonna go with-

• 1:53:02Speaker 02

  Seventy-four. Come on, it's hitting.

• 1:53:05Speaker 01

  Ninety-one.

• 1:53:08Speaker 02

  Eight for Colton.

• 1:53:09Speaker 04

  Colton went eight, so if this goes sixty-nine, we're gonna, it's gonna be a devastating day on the show.

• 1:53:14Speaker 02

  Eighty-eight.

• 1:53:16Speaker 04

  One.

• 1:53:19Speaker 02

  Come on, five.

• 1:53:20Speaker 04

  Come on, eight.

• 1:53:37Speaker 00

  Sixty, anyone?

• 1:53:38Speaker 02

  Sixty.

• 1:53:39Speaker 04

  Sixty.

• 1:53:40Speaker 02

  Not sixty-nine, don't worry. Were you worried it was sixty-nine?

• 1:53:43Speaker 00

  All right, one more.

• 1:53:43Speaker 02

  Last one.

• 1:53:44Speaker 01

  Three.

• 1:53:46Speaker 02

  Last one.

• 1:53:47Speaker 00

  See you, Max, love you.

• 1:53:49Speaker 02

  I'll be, I'll be back soon.

• 1:53:50Speaker 00

  Are you gonna bring us presents?

• 1:53:52Speaker 02

  Yeah, oh, yeah, for sure.

• 1:53:54Speaker 00

  See you, Travis.

• 1:53:55Speaker 02

  I'm sorry, Zach. I didn't, I didn't mean for this to happen.

• 1:53:58Speaker 00

  What if LeBron gets traded?

• 1:54:02Speaker 02

  I'll, I'm, that's why I'm bringing my microphone.

• 1:54:04Speaker 00

  Good man.

• 1:54:08Speaker 00

  Ninety-seven.

• 1:54:12Speaker 01

  Love you guys. Happy birthday to Alex Cooper and Sister Jean.

• 1:54:16Speaker 00

  Nice.

• 1:54:17Speaker 02

  What a duo.

• 1:54:18Speaker 01

  A big two.

• 1:54:19Speaker 02

  R.I.P. Sister Jean.

• 1:54:20Speaker 01

  R.I.P. Also, happy birthday to Wilt Chamberlain, might be Zach's neighbor.

• 1:54:27Speaker 02

  Is this Wilt Chamberlain?

• 1:54:28Speaker 01

  Happy birthday to Adam Thielen, and happy birthday to

• 1:54:34Speaker 01

  Dua Lipa and Bill Parcells. Love you guys.

• 1:54:38Speaker 02

  Forgot anyone?

• 1:54:39Speaker 01

  I don't think so, but maybe you can tell me.

• 1:54:41Speaker 02

  No, I have no idea.

• 1:54:42Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:54:42Speaker 02

  But I, I like that you just questioned yourself when I said that.

• 1:54:46Speaker 01

  I, well, I said, I don't think so.

• 1:54:47Speaker 02

  No? Questioned. But then you said, why don't you tell me?

• 1:54:50Speaker 01

  Yeah, it sounded like you had something to say.

• 1:54:52Speaker 02

  I'm sorry, Zach. I got nothing to say. Sorry, Zach. I'm sorry, Zach.