NFL Week 6 Picks And Preview, Mike Florio Talking NFL, Broncos Win Despite Bo Nix, Brewers To The World Series Plus Fyre Fest

The Brewers are headed to the World Series for the first time since 1982 after sweeping the Dodgers and the Guards go up 2-1 against the Rays (00:00:00-00:14:01). We talk Thursday Night Football after a horrendous Sam Darnold/Bo Nix duel and where do the Broncos go from here even after a win (00:14:01-00:19:17). The CFB playoff is expanding and Jalen Hurts is out with Blood Clot (00:19:17-00:42:34). NFL Week 6 Picks and Preview talking every game, the Colts being the NFL's grocery stick, Jerry's Fantasy minute plus our picks and parlay (00:42:34-02:17:31). Mike Florio joins the show to talk about the NFL, Pro Football Talk's 25th anniversary, will Josh Jacobs play this year, will Brian Flores get a head coaching job, Mike fighting for the fans and more (02:17:31-02:58:27). We finish with Fyre Fest of the week. You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or Netflix. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/pardon-my-take https://barstool.link/pardon-my-take

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  Welcome to Pardon My Take presented by DraftKings. The crown is yours. Today is Friday, October 16th, and for the first time since 1982, the Milwaukee Brewers are on to the World Series. I thought we probably have to start with that. A sweep of the Los Angeles Dodgers, a shit kicking, although the Brewers, they're so good that they, they trailed in every single game.

• 3:27Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 3:27Speaker 00

  And basically scored all their runs the fifth inning on. They're, they're, they're the best team in baseball all year and they proved it and they absolutely decimated the Dodgers. They were down four, nothing. They're like Shohei finally did something and the Dodgers just keep chipping away, or the Brewers keep chipping away and they're going back to the World Series for the first time in what, how many years is that? Forty-three years?

• 3:54Speaker 02

  Is that it?

• 3:55Speaker 00

  Holy shit. That's a long time, but yeah, congrats to Brewers. I don't like the Brewers, but I have to respect them because they play such good baseball. And I would say that the, the, the biggest moments in the, did they name an MVP? I didn't even see of the series. The biggest moment, or the MVP should go to Jake Bauer because Jake Bauer had two at bats in this series that broke the Dodgers' will. He is, he's the MVP. Okay. The at bat against Yamamoto in game two, when he went 12, 12 pitches, basically chased him after two and a third, and then the at bat on Wednesday night against Blake Snell, who had been pitching

• 4:34Speaker 00

  his balls off, was at like nine strikeouts. He, he just completely like grinded him, 11 pitches, hits a, a go ahead homerun. That guy was nails. He was everything the Brewers are. They just get clutch hits and they're so disciplined and great at the plate.

• 4:52Speaker 02

  So the Brewers, I think most people that are unaffiliated in a rivalry against the Brewers are probably rooting really hard against the Dodgers in this series. I think it's awesome for baseball. I think it's great. It was great to see them get swept. And the Brewers are everything that I think most people say that they want in a baseball team now.

• 5:10Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 5:10Speaker 02

  Because the knock against the, the direction baseball's been going for the last 10 years is you strike out, you hit home runs. And that's, that's the way that, that you do it. With the Brewers, they knew that they're not going to be able to compete to get like the top name power hitting free agents. So what the Brewers did was they threw all their money into analytics. So like they saw, where, where does your dollar go furthest? And it's not like they were doing the Moneyball thing where they're like, oh, let's get guys that get on base. They actually decided there's no salary cap in terms of how many nerds that we can hire. So they hired all the smart guys, as many smart guys as you can. They were like scouring blogs to figure out, okay, who is next level thinkers when it comes to finding some advantages that we can get. And they spent all their money figuring out

• 5:54Speaker 02

  where we can, where we can get these little advantages. They're one of the only teams that, that coaches intentionally hitting opposite field singles.

• 6:02Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 6:03Speaker 02

  Opposite field doubles.

• 6:03Speaker 00

  Yeah, no, they let the ball travel through the, through the zone further. They hit opposite field. I mean, and their pitching is, their bullpen is just absolutely insane. They just do it all. They do it at all. I'm happy for Christian Yelich, who's been a friend of ours for almost a decade now. Maybe me saying I'm happy for him, he'll take off the bet and never compete in the homerun derby, but I am happy for him because he's been a really, really good baseball player for a really long time. He's the first captain in Brewers' history. They're going back to the World Series after all these years. And it also was a reverse sweep, which is, by the way, how, is Mark Walter going to have the worst Friday morning wake up of all time?

• 6:42Speaker 02

  Oh, I hope so.

• 6:43Speaker 00

  I mean, he's, he's under investigation. He owes like billions of dollars. His only saving grace was that he could just win a World Series every October. And then he just got swept, decimated. The Dodgers look like they have, like they have major problems with their core in terms of hitting.

• 7:02Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 7:02Speaker 00

  Their pitching is still elite, but you had, you got Scoobal. He only pitched once in the NLCS. It's crazy.

• 7:09Speaker 02

  They had no energy either.

• 7:10Speaker 00

  No.

• 7:11Speaker 02

  And when you have a team, Hank, you got to see like the, we all think of Roberts and the Red Sox that led that comeback down three, nothing against the Yankees. And he was probably, he was the, the spark that got the entire thing started. But outside of him, the Dodgers don't have a guy that is like a dumbass like Kevin Millar that, that's too dumb to know that it's impossible. Like,

• 7:31Speaker 00

  It's Kike Hernandez and he wasn't, he wasn't Kike Hernandez in the series.

• 7:34Speaker 02

  He was not. Like I, I think it was Tucker hit a double and he did the like little arm wave.

• 7:39Speaker 00

  He's, he's a baseball robot. He doesn't, he has no emotions.

• 7:42Speaker 02

  Little arm wave. It was, it was the saddest, like, come on, dude. There's nobody with any juice on that team. And when, when all the stars aren't hitting, it's just kind of a, they don't look like they're having any fun. Like what I saw from Shohei was relief. It wasn't, it wasn't like joy. It wasn't fun, but.

• 7:58Speaker 00

  Kyle Tucker's never had fun playing baseball.

• 8:00Speaker 02

  That, that might be true.

• 8:01Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 8:02Speaker 02

  And I, I love,

• 8:03Speaker 00

  He's just really good at it.

• 8:04Speaker 02

  I love Murphy, the manager, calling his team the woodpeckers. That's what he wants his team to be. Like you're out there, I want you to play like a bunch of angry little woodpeckers.

• 8:12Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 8:12Speaker 02

  So if it's Brewers and Rays, there's a lot of,

• 8:15Speaker 00

  Oh, no. Why, why, why? Don't pass the guards, man. Guards are up 2-1.

• 8:20Speaker 02

  I actually think the, the Guardians might win, but I'm saying if it's the Brewers and the Rays, there's a whole lot of commonalities in those front offices. And they've all kind of like worked together in the past. That would make for a very boring, but also I guess if you're a nerd, interesting World Series.

• 8:36Speaker 00

  Yeah. The other game today, guard ball. They were, Gavin Williams was awesome. They have a rookie, PD, what's his last name? Halpin? It's, it's the two run homerun. A rookie hitting a homerun in that big of a moment. The guards, I, I said it at last show. I, I was, I was dismissive of the guards to start the playoffs. Guard ball has made me a believer because those guys, they're scrappy. They do the right things. They have a couple of really good pitch. I mean, Gavin Williams has been an absolute stud this postseason. Guard ball. And then now they just have to deal with rain. They got to figure out the rain. I don't know what the schedule is going to be.

• 9:14Speaker 02

  They don't know what the schedule is going to be either. And we're also, they might, they might be playing by the time you're listening to this. They might just say, okay, let's do a breakfast game tomorrow.

• 9:20Speaker 00

  We're also going to get an all time rest versus rust discussion going because the World Series doesn't start till next Friday and the Brewers are the hottest team in baseball. They have just been mowing everyone down. They've been playing incredible baseball and now they have to sit on their ass for a week.

• 9:38Speaker 02

  Yep. To be fair, they've already had to do that.

• 9:41Speaker 00

  Not a week?

• 9:42Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 9:43Speaker 00

  No. When? Oh, for the,

• 9:46Speaker 02

  For during the wild card.

• 9:48Speaker 00

  The Sunday to Saturday. That's not the same. I mean, but also they hadn't started yet. Like you don't want to lose this momentum.

• 9:57Speaker 02

  I'm, I get it, but I mean, they had, they had the best regular season in baseball. You at least know.

• 10:03Speaker 00

  I mean, you could make the, I mean, the Padres played them a lot tougher than the Dodgers did.

• 10:08Speaker 02

  Oh, for sure.

• 10:09Speaker 03

  But I'm, all I'm saying is that they, they at least have a routine that they know how to get back into it. Like it would be a little bit different if they've been going this whole time and they're this team on a hot, hot run.

• 10:20Speaker 02

  If you have, if you have a full week, do you do, are you going to go out there do simulated games?

• 10:25Speaker 00

  Yeah, they'll definitely do some simulated games. I would say there's a little difference about finishing 162 and getting a few days off versus being on this heater.

• 10:33Speaker 03

  I'm just saying,

• 10:33Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 10:34Speaker 03

  At least, at least that they have.

• 10:36Speaker 00

  Yeah. Look, we're doing it right now. The rest versus rust. This is the discussion that's going to happen.

• 10:41Speaker 02

  I would love to see the simulated games.

• 10:43Speaker 00

  Oh yeah. They'll do a simulated game for sure. They'll play, they'll play a bunch. They'll, they'll do at least like one or two of them.

• 10:48Speaker 02

  They, they should have like an announcing team. I want to hear, I want them to treat it like it's the real thing.

• 10:52Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 10:53Speaker 02

  Like ABS.

• 10:54Speaker 00

  But I, I've been impressed with the Guardians. They're, oh, oh, last thing I want to say about the Dodgers, by the way, because we did, people were commenting about our, our comments about the Rays. The Dodgers didn't even come close to selling out any of their playoff games. It's a joke.

• 11:10Speaker 02

  Yeah. Fatigue.

• 11:12Speaker 00

  They didn't. Max?

• 11:16Speaker 03

  There's a caveat there.

• 11:17Speaker 02

  A what?

• 11:18Speaker 00

  What is that?

• 11:19Speaker 03

  Is that the stadium holds 20,000 more people.

• 11:22Speaker 00

  Okay, I get it. It's also a much bigger city. Yeah.

• 11:27Speaker 03

  I'm, I get it.

• 11:28Speaker 00

  And they just won two World Series. Like, go out. You should be fucking.

• 11:33Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 11:34Speaker 00

  I don't know.

• 11:35Speaker 03

  They had 20,000 more fans than the Rays did.

• 11:37Speaker 02

  Max, it's very easy what we can do. Just have that exact same animosity towards Los Angeles.

• 11:42Speaker 00

  Yeah, we're trying to bash the Dodgers here, dude. Come on.

• 11:45Speaker 03

  Well, I just had, I've been having Rays fans in my fucking mentions for.

• 11:48Speaker 00

  So getting, switch to Dodgers fans.

• 11:50Speaker 02

  All Zach burners.

• 11:52Speaker 04

  All I'm saying is ones in Los Angeles, ones in St. Pete.

• 11:54Speaker 00

  Yeah, right. There was one guy.

• 11:57Speaker 03

  It also was tough to get, you, it's the same argument.

• 11:59Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 12:00Speaker 03

  It's impossible to get to the Dodger Stadium as well.

• 12:02Speaker 00

  Someone started.

• 12:03Speaker 02

  Somehow they figured it out, though. Like, I've seen Dodger Stadium jam ass packed before.

• 12:09Speaker 00

  Actually, really cool stadium. We, uh, I had one guy try to like mansplain St. Pete and Tampa to me and I was just like, I'm out of this. I can't do this. I don't, I don't actually care enough about where these places are located.

• 12:22Speaker 02

  I mean.

• 12:22Speaker 00

  No offense, Zach.

• 12:23Speaker 02

  The reality is like.

• 12:24Speaker 03

  No taking.

• 12:26Speaker 02

  If your team's in the World Series, you should be able to fill your stadium.

• 12:29Speaker 03

  Yeah, I agree. I agree.

• 12:30Speaker 02

  Regardless, I, I understand that traffic sucks. And the stadium's not great and it's pretty much like a putt putt course in, in a, in a baseball field.

• 12:39Speaker 00

  Well, how many people went to the Rays game?

• 12:41Speaker 03

  Thirty-one.

• 12:42Speaker 00

  Oh, so wasn't that, it wasn't 20,000?

• 12:44Speaker 03

  Eighteen, it was forty.

• 12:46Speaker 00

  Forty-one thousand went to the Dodgers game. They, they hold 51.

• 12:50Speaker 03

  Got it.

• 12:50Speaker 00

  So they were 10,000 off.

• 12:52Speaker 03

  Ten thousand.

• 12:52Speaker 00

  I don't know. We just gotta be fair and balanced. The, the Dodgers should sell out their playoff games. That's not a hot.

• 12:58Speaker 03

  I agree. I agree.

• 12:59Speaker 00

  I think, I think we can all agree on.

• 13:01Speaker 02

  Given the star power that they have.

• 13:02Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 13:03Speaker 02

  Like, it shouldn't be close. There should be people flying in from out of town. If you're a Dodgers fan anywhere on the West Coast, it's like, yeah, let's go see the Dodgers in the playoffs.

• 13:10Speaker 03

  If the Guardians play tomorrow afternoon, that might be like a historically low attendance.

• 13:15Speaker 02

  Why?

• 13:16Speaker 00

  They were packed today. They played at noon.

• 13:18Speaker 02

  Friday afternoon?

• 13:19Speaker 04

  Uh, they had the lowest attendance record in ALCS history.

• 13:22Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 13:23Speaker 04

  But they have, they have the smallest stadium.

• 13:25Speaker 02

  Yeah, but you don't think that like.

• 13:26Speaker 03

  And they also.

• 13:29Speaker 02

  On a Friday afternoon?

• 13:30Speaker 03

  I, I know, it's just the scheduling of it. The fact that you're waking up in the morning and you don't know when the game is, is tough for scheduling.

• 13:38Speaker 02

  I get, you know what we need? We need the, the mayor of Cleveland needs to step in and do one of those things where he just, he gives everybody the day off work.

• 13:44Speaker 00

  May I say something?

• 13:45Speaker 02

  Like, Cleveland, you don't have to go to work tomorrow. It, because we don't know what time the ballgame's gonna be, so we need everybody to be like a Minuteman. You guys have to be ready to go within like a two hour notice. So no work tomorrow. I'm gonna do it. Cleveland, no work tomorrow.

• 14:01Speaker 00

  Can I say something?

• 14:01Speaker 02

  Enjoy baseball.

• 14:02Speaker 00

  Uh, I, I started this conversation just because I thought we could all just bash the Dodgers there for a second and Dodgers fans. I didn't come to this with any type of facts. So when we start throwing facts around, I'm out.

• 14:15Speaker 02

  There's some numbers.

• 14:16Speaker 00

  I don't, I don't know any of the numbers.

• 14:18Speaker 02

  I didn't know what the numbers meant. All I know is, uh, Los Angeles is a bad sports town.

• 14:21Speaker 00

  I'm getting killed with numbers. I don't know the numbers.

• 14:24Speaker 04

  I think we all got attacked equally yesterday.

• 14:26Speaker 03

  Yeah. I got smoked.

• 14:30Speaker 02

  Not as bad.

• 14:31Speaker 00

  Listen, we have a take.

• 14:32Speaker 03

  The Rays fans, Rays fans are a joke. They, they average.

• 14:37Speaker 02

  Yeah, don't, don't back down.

• 14:38Speaker 03

  I mean, they were, they were the, they were the best team in the AL. They averaged like 11,000 fans a game. That's a, that's a joke.

• 14:44Speaker 02

  Go after those Rays.

• 14:45Speaker 00

  People also forget the name of this podcast, okay? Pardon my take. All right?

• 14:49Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 14:50Speaker 00

  Just relax, everyone. All right, let's talk some football. It was a brutal football game. I don't know. I, the, the lead I would say is Sam Darnold played awful. And he wasn't the worst quarterback on the field.

• 15:04Speaker 02

  Hmm.

• 15:06Speaker 02

  I don't, yeah, okay. Well, he also had JSN.

• 15:09Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 15:10Speaker 02

  As like a security bailout blanket that made, but some amazing catches that.

• 15:14Speaker 00

  For sure.

• 15:14Speaker 02

  Nobody on the Broncos is.

• 15:16Speaker 00

  For sure. And I'm not, I'm not trying to say that Sam Darnold, I mean, he cost them the game. That, that, that pick in, I mean, the, the first pick in the fourth quarter when they were going in, that was bad.

• 15:25Speaker 02

  But you're right.

• 15:25Speaker 00

  And then the pick in overtime obviously loses them the game.

• 15:30Speaker 00

  Bo Nix could not move the ball. They didn't, I don't remember the last time the Broncos got a first down. Like, they could not move the ball. A Bo Nix, something has happened to him. Maybe it was the injury last year. He can't run anymore. He looks, he doesn't look comfortable. It was a tough one. Credit to the Broncos defensive line. That was the true MVP of the game because their defense won them that game. I don't know what to make of this Broncos offense other than it's a tough watch.

• 15:57Speaker 02

  Yeah, I, with the defense thing, the great news is they seem to have figured out the tackling issue.

• 16:02Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 16:02Speaker 02

  That seems to be well forgotten in the past.

• 16:04Speaker 00

  They sacked Sam Darnold five times. They were all up, like, they, they had him.

• 16:08Speaker 02

  Allen on the interior just bullying people.

• 16:10Speaker 00

  Benito, yeah.

• 16:11Speaker 02

  Spinning on, on everyone. Yeah, um, Bo Nix, this is Bo Nix. He, they get used to it. This is what Bo Nix does. He looks awful and then somehow they end up winning a football game and everyone's like, that Bo Nix, he's a winner.

• 16:24Speaker 00

  I'm not, I'm not saying that after this because I don't know. I mean, he, he threw 27 passes and had 107 yards.

• 16:31Speaker 02

  Yeah, average of four yards, uh, per.

• 16:33Speaker 00

  And again, Sam Darnold was bad, but I just, that was one of those games, if you're a Broncos fan, you win, you're happy you won, short week, try to figure it out, but like, the Bo Nix problem seems to be getting bigger and bigger where it's like, what is this?

• 16:46Speaker 02

  I think.

• 16:46Speaker 00

  What are we watching?

• 16:47Speaker 02

  I think Davis Webb needs to take back play calling duty.

• 16:49Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 16:50Speaker 02

  And because, but this, that's what Bo Nix, he did all season last year and he, he's done it this year too. Like, they looked terrible and somehow they figure out a way to win.

• 16:58Speaker 00

  But he's not doing the good Bo Nix anymore.

• 17:00Speaker 02

  But they somehow figure out a way to win and it's like.

• 17:03Speaker 00

  But that was not, they didn't win because of Bo Nix at all.

• 17:05Speaker 02

  No.

• 17:06Speaker 00

  They could have had anyone else playing quarterback and they would have, like, that was their defense. That's, I just.

• 17:11Speaker 02

  It's Tebow.

• 17:12Speaker 00

  At least Bo Nix last year would like be hot for a quarter. He, we never saw that.

• 17:17Speaker 02

  If quarterbacks were reversed tonight, who wins?

• 17:20Speaker 00

  I.

• 17:21Speaker 02

  Broncos.

• 17:21Speaker 00

  Yeah. I think anyone. I think Drew Locke on the Broncos would have won tonight.

• 17:26Speaker 02

  I think, yeah, I mean, Sam Darnold had some, some really bad throws.

• 17:30Speaker 00

  Oh, no, he was bad. He was really bad. And I think that's a problem too, because he has not looked good this season so far. Like, he has not, he's not looked comfortable. He's not had good games. And he's been throwing the ball away too much and the Seahawks defense has been trying to bail him out, but haven't been able to bail him out the same way. You would, I mean, like, it's just, what, what more can you ask for the, for the Seahawks defense? They, they completely, like, uh, the Broncos yards per play was 2.9.

• 17:58Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 17:58Speaker 00

  2.9. Like, the Seahawks defense, they, they, Broncos had 13 first downs total in an overtime game.

• 18:05Speaker 02

  We were talking to Matt Hasselbeck on, uh, on Web this morning and he was saying that he thinks that, he, he thinks that there's actually something that's very different about, about Sam this year.

• 18:15Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 18:15Speaker 02

  And he, his speculation is that he might still be hurt.

• 18:18Speaker 00

  I, I would, I think that might be fair.

• 18:20Speaker 02

  And that he rushed himself back because there's a lot of stuff that looks different in terms of like his mechanics, not just the decision-making and not just him being confused. This was, uh, so Robert Mays tweeted this out. Um, I believe this was around, yeah, about 9:30. So it was before the game was over. Bo Nix, at some point when they were up by two scores, he was throwing the ball with an average of 1.2 air yards per completion.

• 18:45Speaker 00

  That's, that's.

• 18:46Speaker 02

  Zero completed passes beyond the sticks.

• 18:49Speaker 00

  That's the thing that's so crazy to me is that, and, and yeah, the, the, the second half for the Broncos, their possessions, punt, punt, punt, punt, punt, punt, six punts and then a kneel to go to overtime. And then, then they got, when they got the interception, they didn't even get a first down. They didn't get a first down. Like, it was crazy. But yeah, Sam Darnold, it's a problem and you can't, like, it just doesn't look the same. That pick was so bad in overtime, was so bad. And yeah, Bo Nix, like, you can tell, the, the, the issue, the thing that would scare you the most if you're a Broncos fan about Bo Nix is not just that Bo Nix has looked bad. It's clear they do not trust him at all.

• 19:31Speaker 02

  No.

• 19:32Speaker 00

  Cause like, they don't, they, the, the, the throws that he attempted in the second were all just like behind the line of screen. What'd you say? 1. what?

• 19:40Speaker 02

  1.2. I, I don't think that's what he ended with, but it was, it was well into the game. I believe it was maybe the start of the fourth quarter.

• 19:46Speaker 00

  Yeah. So it was an ugly game. Ugly Thursday night football game, but we watched.

• 19:50Speaker 02

  We did what?

• 19:51Speaker 00

  Great uniforms.

• 19:52Speaker 02

  Really good matchup.

• 19:53Speaker 00

  Incredible uniforms.

• 19:54Speaker 02

  If it was, if this was a, a, a regular uniform matchup between these two teams, like Seahawks, normal uniforms, Broncos, normal unis, we would be trashing this game so.

• 20:03Speaker 00

  Oh, we'd be so much angrier.

• 20:05Speaker 02

  Goddamn, did it look beautiful.

• 20:06Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah. Uh, okay. So we taped the, uh, first part of the show, the picks and previews. So the, two things that are maybe a little out of date. The first is Jalen Hurts is out. So Jalen Hurts has a blood clot. Max, thoughts? Concerns?

• 20:28Speaker 03

  Yeah, it, it's really hard to

• 20:32Speaker 03

  make a judgment on the rest of the season until you figure out exactly what's going on because it's everything from one week to like not playing football again.

• 20:41Speaker 00

  Right.

• 20:42Speaker 03

  So it's hard to give a real outlook on everything until you know everything. But, I mean, this week's obviously gonna be a struggle.

• 20:51Speaker 02

  This is, uh, some things are bigger than sports.

• 20:53Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 20:53Speaker 03

  Yeah. I, I hope he's, I obviously hope he's okay. I don't know what, there's a lot of people complaining about the international game and the flight.

• 21:02Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 21:03Speaker 03

  What they knew, what they didn't. I don't know anything about that.

• 21:05Speaker 02

  So.

• 21:05Speaker 03

  I don't know anything about the, the process of how everything went and I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna comment on it because I don't know.

• 21:12Speaker 02

  That's, that's smart. All I know is that people do get clots on long flights sometimes. That's why they tell people, especially if you're all get up, walk around on a plane. But also they said that this happened, like, he hurt his calf in practice.

• 21:26Speaker 03

  But yeah, but then they're like, I don't, yeah. Then, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know anything. I don't know anything about, about shit. So I'm not gonna comment on that. The only thing I'll comment on is that it's gonna be a tough football game this weekend.

• 21:40Speaker 02

  Tanner McKee.

• 21:41Speaker 03

  Tanner McKee. Damian Pierce.

• 21:44Speaker 02

  We're doing McKee bumps?

• 21:45Speaker 03

  I guess.

• 21:46Speaker 00

  What, yeah.

• 21:48Speaker 03

  I mean, it's, it's gonna, it's gonna be a struggle, but Sirianni has gotten the guys, the defense should still be strong. The defense still should be mostly healthy. And I, they're, they're playing insane right now. Tanner McKee can scrap together a little bit. I mean, the spread's only three and a half, which I think is kind of crazy given where the Eagles are at health-wise right now.

• 22:12Speaker 02

  Somebody needs to show him that tweet from the Hurricanes.

• 22:17Speaker 03

  Sure. You like DraftKings?

• 22:20Speaker 02

  Yeah, you got frustrated.

• 22:22Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 22:23Speaker 02

  You were upset at the Hurricanes?

• 22:26Speaker 00

  This is the Hurricanes revenge game.

• 22:27Speaker 02

  Carolina Hurricanes?

• 22:29Speaker 03

  Yeah, I'm familiar with the tweet.

• 22:31Speaker 02

  Okay, okay. You were fired up about it the other day.

• 22:34Speaker 03

  Yeah, I'm familiar with the tweet. I don't know what you want me to say. The Flyers still haven't won a game.

• 22:39Speaker 00

  What if, yeah, what if Daniel Ricciardo just balls out?

• 22:43Speaker 03

  I hope he does. I hope he does.

• 22:45Speaker 02

  I hope he does too.

• 22:46Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 22:46Speaker 05

  Say the thing to him.

• 22:49Speaker 02

  I think the Eagles can still win this division.

• 22:53Speaker 03

  I'm gonna see what the line is.

• 22:56Speaker 02

  It's like when we have the Joe Flacco elite debate. Some guy says, is Joe Flacco elite? The other guy says, he won a Super Bowl. Every time I say the Eagles can win the division, Max, first thing, let's, let's look at the odds.

• 23:07Speaker 00

  Let's look at the odds.

• 23:08Speaker 03

  They have jumped, they have plummeted significantly since the Jalen Hurts.

• 23:12Speaker 00

  But they could still do it.

• 23:13Speaker 02

  They could still do it. What are they?

• 23:14Speaker 03

  Plus, plus 320 still significantly ahead of the commanders, which is crazy.

• 23:18Speaker 02

  Well, that seemed like unnecessary.

• 23:19Speaker 03

  Well, you're, everything that you say is unnecessary.

• 23:22Speaker 02

  We weren't talking about the commanders right now.

• 23:23Speaker 03

  We weren't talking about who's gonna win the division.

• 23:26Speaker 02

  We're talking football and the Eagles.

• 23:27Speaker 00

  Yeah, we're talking football.

• 23:28Speaker 03

  Yeah, we're talking NFC East. If you want to talk about.

• 23:31Speaker 02

  Big Cat told me to say the line.

• 23:33Speaker 03

  If you want to talk about the division, I can talk about the division.

• 23:36Speaker 02

  Big Cat pulled my string.

• 23:37Speaker 00

  I didn't tickle my Elmo.

• 23:38Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 23:39Speaker 03

  I don't know what you want me to say. If you want to talk about the division, we can talk about.

• 23:42Speaker 02

  You want to talk about the division?

• 23:43Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 23:44Speaker 02

  I think as, as bad as they look, the Eagles could still possibly win.

• 23:49Speaker 00

  Yeah, you like that?

• 23:49Speaker 02

  I wouldn't count them out yet.

• 23:50Speaker 03

  Yeah, I'm not counting them out either. I'm not counting them out this weekend.

• 23:53Speaker 02

  There you go, little guy.

• 23:54Speaker 03

  You're the little guy.

• 23:55Speaker 02

  You're the little guy.

• 23:55Speaker 03

  I'm big fella.

• 23:57Speaker 00

  Cheer up, big fella. Eagles could still win the division.

• 24:00Speaker 02

  You're the littlest big guy I know.

• 24:01Speaker 03

  You little, small.

• 24:02Speaker 02

  No, you're, you're a little big guy.

• 24:03Speaker 03

  You're.

• 24:04Speaker 02

  You're a cute little big guy.

• 24:05Speaker 03

  No, shit. Cute little big guy is honestly a compliment.

• 24:09Speaker 02

  Itty bitty big boy.

• 24:10Speaker 03

  I think cute little big guy is a compliment.

• 24:12Speaker 00

  Yeah, that is.

• 24:13Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 24:14Speaker 02

  Sure.

• 24:15Speaker 00

  What's the little part, though?

• 24:17Speaker 03

  Yeah, I'm a little guy.

• 24:18Speaker 02

  Yeah, itty bitty big boy.

• 24:21Speaker 03

  You're a child. You wear jerseys with your name on it every day. That's literally what children do.

• 24:27Speaker 02

  I don't remember the last time before today that I wore a jersey with my, with my name on it.

• 24:33Speaker 00

  Just a reminder, this all started, he was trying to pump you up.

• 24:37Speaker 05

  None of those Wizards jerseys have your name on it?

• 24:38Speaker 03

  Soccer jersey. He definitely has US soccer jersey with your name on it.

• 24:41Speaker 02

  No, I don't.

• 24:41Speaker 05

  Yeah, we all do.

• 24:43Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 24:43Speaker 02

  Oh, we had to put them on for like something. I've never worn it.

• 24:46Speaker 00

  No, we didn't have to put them on.

• 24:48Speaker 02

  Oh, I've never worn it.

• 24:50Speaker 00

  Definitely didn't have to put them on.

• 24:51Speaker 02

  I don't think I ever put it on.

• 24:54Speaker 00

  All right, the other one.

• 24:55Speaker 02

  It's a gift. This jersey was a gift, Max.

• 24:57Speaker 00

  Caleb had his press conference after we recorded. Caleb's definitely gonna play on Sunday, it feels like, and he's pissed off, which I fucking love. He was, he, he had a, so he definitely had at least a grade two, uh, cause he said he had a tear, which is I think a grade two or.

• 25:13Speaker 02

  Grade one's a tear too.

• 25:14Speaker 00

  Okay, well, he had a significant injury. He's been out three weeks. Uh, he was pissed and I love it. He said, I think the quote was like, there's been a lot of people, what was the exact quote? There's a lot of people, uh.

• 25:26Speaker 05

  Why wouldn't he disclose what grade it was?

• 25:28Speaker 00

  Why does he have to? It's HIPAA, dude.

• 25:31Speaker 02

  I mean, if it's, if he's back in three weeks, it was probably a grade one.

• 25:34Speaker 00

  Uh, Mike, what could be a grade two? Absolutely.

• 25:37Speaker 05

  If only he could have cleared it up when he was given the chance.

• 25:40Speaker 00

  Oh, okay, you're gonna, you, you sound like the people he's talking about. He said, my character's been attacked for a while, so it's just another motivating factor when I get out there and go, and get going again. You, you're attacking his character.

• 25:50Speaker 05

  I'm not attacking his character at all.

• 25:51Speaker 00

  You have been attacking his character.

• 25:52Speaker 05

  If I was in here, this is my entry.

• 25:55Speaker 00

  You're on the list. I'm putting you on the list.

• 25:57Speaker 05

  Great. Hate week next week.

• 26:00Speaker 00

  You're on the list. You're on the list. Okay, and then the final story.

• 26:03Speaker 02

  Who do you think he's maddest at? There's gotta be one guy that he.

• 26:06Speaker 00

  It's probably Rob Portman Schefter, who just like announced that he was, you know, week to week before anything, before the team said anything.

• 26:14Speaker 02

  I have a question.

• 26:14Speaker 00

  That's when it all started, was they.

• 26:16Speaker 03

  That is bullshit. That is bullshit.

• 26:18Speaker 00

  Tom Pelissero said he's like week to week before anything else was reported. And then the memes came.

• 26:24Speaker 03

  And none of this would have happened if they were like, yeah, he's out, he's out for three to four, four to five weeks. None of that would have happened.

• 26:30Speaker 02

  Right. Um, however, didn't Ben Johnson say he might play the week after he got hurt?

• 26:37Speaker 00

  Yeah, he's doing gamesmanship. He's trying to keep everyone, keep everyone on their toes.

• 26:41Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 26:42Speaker 03

  But that was also in the middle of the shit.

• 26:44Speaker 00

  Well, yeah, it was after the Pelissero tweet, but yes.

• 26:47Speaker 02

  Ben Johnson did Caleb no favors.

• 26:49Speaker 00

  No, no. But I think he probably was like, I want to try to, I'm not gonna tell anyone my depth chart.

• 26:54Speaker 03

  Yeah, but it did fuck up with your, fuck up your quarterback's head a little bit.

• 26:58Speaker 00

  I don't think, fuck, it's motivating. He's got a chip on his shoulder.

• 27:01Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 27:01Speaker 00

  You should get, if you had a chip on your shoulder, you'd eat it.

• 27:04Speaker 03

  He was thrown out, thrown out. Sad retweets and.

• 27:08Speaker 02

  Wait, wait, wait, what sad retweets are we talking about?

• 27:12Speaker 00

  He was retweeting the, uh, that fucking disgusting pig, Dave Portnoy.

• 27:16Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 27:19Speaker 02

  That was, that was bad.

• 27:21Speaker 00

  Uh, okay, and then last story, uh, the NCAA, uh, football, college football is ruined yet again for the like 70th time. So it's not, it's not like this is the, the, the death sentence. Uh, this is just yet another thing that they've done to make more money and be like, fuck you fans, we're moving to a 24-team playoff.

• 27:44Speaker 00

  I, listen, it just sucks. We don't need 24 teams. We don't. 12 is probably a stretch already. And what, one of the best parts of college football, what made college football special was the regular season mattered so much. And I was fine with the 12 because it still did matter, cause you still had good teams playing big games. Think about a Texas last year that got left out, where it's like, that was a significant game against Ohio State.

• 28:12Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 28:13Speaker 00

  Now we're gonna have games where it's like, you can take two, three, like Oregon right now would be very much alive.

• 28:18Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 28:19Speaker 00

  And it's like, what does it matter? If you lose two games, three games, four games, you can still be in the playoff? I don't know. It sucks.

• 28:26Speaker 02

  I agree. I, that's why I'm only going to count the, the 12 playoff. That, that was the real playoff. If you didn't make it, then not a real playoff bid. If you're in the 24 Mickey Mouse, yeah, not, not the same at all. I think that this is just going to, if we think that it's ruined right now, they can always find a way to make it worse.

• 28:44Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 28:44Speaker 02

  And, and they will. So, yeah, it's, it's a money play. The conference championship games, are they all going to cease to exist?

• 28:51Speaker 00

  They have to.

• 28:51Speaker 02

  Every one of them?

• 28:52Speaker 00

  If they don't, that's the dumbest thing ever. Because I don't know where, like, are we gonna be playing college football in February? That makes no sense. We're already pretty close.

• 29:00Speaker 02

  Yeah, I don't see how, how they, how they matter.

• 29:03Speaker 00

  Yeah, the only silver lining, which is not gonna happen, but I'll throw it out there as maybe a plea. I mean, I, it's not gonna happen. But if the games, the regular season doesn't matter, if you could take three or four losses and still make the playoffs, the non-conference schedule should be better. They should, the, the, the Big Ten should mandate, cause the Big Ten was the, the conference that led the charge on this. The Big Ten should mandate every single one of their teams to have to play two power four teams in September. They should do a Big Ten SEC.

• 29:34Speaker 03

  That's what I was gonna say. They should do the college basketball Big Ten SEC challenge.

• 29:38Speaker 00

  Wherever you finished last year, that's who you play. That would be great. Cause like, that's the only, we, we are getting to a point where it's like the, the September games just suck and it doesn't feel like there's any, so that would be the only, the only silver lining. I don't think it's gonna happen.

• 29:52Speaker 02

  I was gonna say, that sound like ideally for a fan.

• 29:56Speaker 00

  No, it's not gonna happen.

• 29:57Speaker 02

  For somebody that likes to watch the games on TV, that is incredible. Uh, but what would the motivation be?

• 30:02Speaker 00

  Well, it, it, there would.

• 30:04Speaker 02

  Why would you want to schedule a good team?

• 30:06Speaker 00

  Yeah, I mean, I guess it would be better for TV and like, you know, sa, ticket sales. I don't know. I mean, I would assume you, you could sell out a major opponent versus selling out, you know, when you bring in a MAC team to beat the fuck out of them. But it, it's not gonna happen. It should happen because taking a loss in September now is even more like irrelevant.

• 30:27Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's fine.

• 30:28Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 30:28Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 30:29Speaker 00

  I, I mean, the, the problem is then now that the argument would be like, well, we're trying to get the buy, so we can't take a loss in September. It's fucking sucks, man.

• 30:36Speaker 02

  Yeah, this is, uh, it's, it's a money play and the, uh, the powers that be, they understand that the money is not necessarily in keeping diehard college football fans very happy with the product at all times. It's in marketing it to the, the biggest audience possible and watering it down to the point where they get the most eyeballs, more money for commercials, TV rights deals, and that's, that's how it's done. It's like, uh, you know, no different than the NFL trying to expand outside of the United States.

• 31:04Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 31:04Speaker 02

  College football is trying to get the audience that they don't have yet, the low hanging fruit. And the easiest way for them to do that is they, they understand that America, we like to look at a bracket. So they're going to give us a bigger bracket to look at. It's the ongoing Savannah bananification of sports in America.

• 31:21Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 31:21Speaker 02

  And it's a sad day.

• 31:22Speaker 00

  Yep. And it's a reminder that we're going to 76 teams in the tournament this year.

• 31:26Speaker 02

  I forgot about that. 76?

• 31:29Speaker 00

  Yeah. And it's, it's the same, it's the exact same argument. When the 76 was announced, it's like, hey, if the, if the next eight teams are gonna be, you know, uh, little, you know, Indiana State and, and, and like Sam, Sam Houston and like all, like all these small schools, Cal Poly, great. But no, it's not. It's going to be 17 and 16 Minnesota and, uh, eight and nine in the ACC play NC State. That's what's gonna be.

• 31:59Speaker 02

  No, they'll figure out a way to fuck NC State.

• 32:01Speaker 00

  Yeah. Uh, by the way, Ryan Fitzpatrick, we should mention this. He went after the, after the game on the post game. Uh, he said Bo Nix is not playing competitively. It's almost disrespectful to the quarterback position, how he's playing football.

• 32:16Speaker 02

  Woo, disrespectful to the position of quarterback.

• 32:19Speaker 05

  I mean, Ryan Fitzpatrick has some stinkers.

• 32:23Speaker 02

  I don't think he ever had stinkers like this.

• 32:25Speaker 00

  You fucking hate our friends.

• 32:27Speaker 02

  When Ryan Fitzpatrick had a stinker.

• 32:30Speaker 00

  I'm just kidding. I don't care.

• 32:31Speaker 02

  The stinker that he would have would be four interceptions, no touchdowns.

• 32:36Speaker 00

  He's trying. He wouldn't. He, he, his point is Bo Nix is not even like, he's not even playing competitive football.

• 32:42Speaker 03

  Winning, winning games.

• 32:44Speaker 02

  You think, true. That's what I'm saying about Bo Nix. This is the quintessential Bo Nix. And he drives people insane where it's like, he sucks. Somehow they win. And it's like, yep, that's our guy. Winner. Winning DNA.

• 32:55Speaker 00

  Yeah, he just, he ripped them. And he is right. He is right about the, that run play he referred to. He said he had a chance to make a guy miss that. You remember that run play in, in, in overtime when he just basically went down? He doesn't, he, he doesn't run anymore.

• 33:10Speaker 02

  Yeah, he's, he does look like he is, uh, he's shying away from contact a little bit. I noticed he went out of bounds a few times.

• 33:16Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 33:17Speaker 02

  Even when he, all he had to do was kinda stay in bounds a little bit, get rid of the ball. Incompletion downfield and he would, he would just opt to like run away from the defender, get out of bounds and, and not take any contact. I'm seeing that, uh, from Bill Barnwell, his longest completion of the night traveled 7.6 yards in the air.

• 33:36Speaker 00

  Damn.

• 33:37Speaker 02

  That's me to Hank right now. That was, that was the farthest throw. Actually, I'm now coming around on Bo Nix.

• 33:43Speaker 00

  Here, here's another one.

• 33:44Speaker 02

  Rocks. Like, like that's a pretty fun night. You don't have to do shit. You just kinda showed up. Other people carried you across the line.

• 33:52Speaker 00

  Here's another one from, uh, Steve Plazlo, who we should have on, on the show sometime. He's a very smart football guy.

• 33:57Speaker 02

  Very Italian.

• 33:58Speaker 00

  Yeah, very Italian. So Italian that he's like, he's just throwing Z's around that don't even need to be there.

• 34:04Speaker 02

  Hmm. I think he was actually a really good college baseball player too.

• 34:07Speaker 00

  Yeah. Uh, he said, the Broncos gained, how many, how many yards do you think the Broncos, don't show it, don't show it. How many yards do you think the Broncos gained in their last 10 drives, including penalties?

• 34:22Speaker 03

  27.

• 34:24Speaker 02

  50.

• 34:26Speaker 00

  32. 32 yards in their last 10 drives and they won the football game.

• 34:32Speaker 02

  Oh my gosh.

• 34:34Speaker 00

  That's insane, man. Again, the story is obviously Sam Darnold threw that game away, but big picture, I would buy the Seahawks as a football team if Sam Darnold can get right with their defense. And JSN being so exceptional. Bo Nix just lost the ability to play football.

• 34:54Speaker 02

  Yeah, they need to give, I think it, if Sam's hurt, he should take a couple of weeks off. When, when's the Seahawks bye?

• 35:02Speaker 00

  Uh, I think they have the, they have the Chiefs next week, then they have the Bears Monday night football, Cardinals, Raiders. Then bye. So, I mean, those are, I mean, the Cardinals and Raiders feels like they should win those games, Bears and Chiefs. And I don't know what the Bears are gonna look like in two weeks, but Chiefs obviously look really good, so.

• 35:24Speaker 02

  He doesn't look right. There's something about him.

• 35:26Speaker 00

  Bears and Chiefs are at home though, I will say.

• 35:29Speaker 02

  It's a combination. He might not look fully healthy and also not having a, a competent run game that he can lean on is definitely getting to him.

• 35:37Speaker 00

  Yeah, it's, uh, it was an ugly game. All right, we're gonna get to, uh, our entire picks and preview. So when we get to the Eagles portion, the reason why we didn't mention Jalen Hurts is out because we found out after, but we just talked about it.

• 35:50Speaker 03

  I think there's a couple of injuries too that we talked about. We said AJ Brown might play. Hank said, I think you said that he's.

• 35:58Speaker 00

  Oh, he might play?

• 35:59Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 35:59Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 36:00Speaker 03

  I saw a report today that he said uncertain on his.

• 36:02Speaker 00

  Manon guy's out again. Yeah, it sucks a lot.

• 36:07Speaker 03

  I guess those are the only two that I thought of.

• 36:09Speaker 02

  There's another news story I saw, um, Michael Rubin talking about how, uh, when he was owner, he broke all the rules. He said, he, every rule.

• 36:18Speaker 03

  That, that clip is so out of context.

• 36:20Speaker 02

  Yeah, I mean, he said, when I was owner, I would break all the rules.

• 36:23Speaker 03

  It's not.

• 36:25Speaker 02

  Big cat. Yes, big cat.

• 36:27Speaker 00

  Um, that vile pig, Dave Portnoy, uh, did point out something that was interesting that I didn't even consider, uh, with the Jalen Hurts injury, which we want Jalen to get better. Is there a LeBron curse going on?

• 36:42Speaker 02

  Yeah, I think it's fair to ask.

• 36:43Speaker 03

  You just called Dave Portnoy.

• 36:45Speaker 00

  A vile pig. Well, yeah, what he said about Caleb Williams was disgusting.

• 36:48Speaker 03

  What he's saying about LeBron James is disgusting.

• 36:50Speaker 00

  No, well, he's getting, no, vile pigs can make good points.

• 36:53Speaker 02

  That doesn't mean that he's not right.

• 36:54Speaker 03

  Caleb Williams, good point.

• 36:55Speaker 02

  Yeah. Do you wait, are you calling him a vile pig?

• 36:59Speaker 03

  No, big cat did.

• 37:00Speaker 02

  You're calling him a vile pig who's wrong. Big cat's calling him.

• 37:03Speaker 00

  A vile pig who can also make a good point.

• 37:05Speaker 03

  Agreed. Caleb Williams, great point.

• 37:07Speaker 02

  No, no. Okay.

• 37:07Speaker 00

  Okay, but so LeBron, good point. LeBron curse. Would you like to address the LeBron curse?

• 37:15Speaker 03

  We gotta, we gotta see how basketball season turns.

• 37:18Speaker 02

  How are the Flyers doing?

• 37:20Speaker 03

  I haven't, I already said that the Flyers haven't won a game. You want me to talk about that again?

• 37:23Speaker 02

  No, I'm just, I was reiterating.

• 37:25Speaker 03

  November 1, Villanova plays in Rome.

• 37:28Speaker 00

  Would you take LeBron?

• 37:30Speaker 03

  I really like Villanova this year.

• 37:31Speaker 00

  Would you take LeBron James winning a championship this year? If it meant all your other teams sucked for the next decade? No playoffs?

• 37:43Speaker 03

  No.

• 37:43Speaker 00

  Okay. That might be what you're dealing with, LeBron curse.

• 37:47Speaker 03

  I, I disagree.

• 37:49Speaker 00

  It could, it, no, it, I, you can't disagree with something that could happen.

• 37:53Speaker 03

  I will take, I will take this fantasy land.

• 37:56Speaker 00

  But you can't, you can't disagree with, yeah, PFT.

• 37:59Speaker 02

  Um, yeah, it's a PFT commentator from Barstool Sports, big cat.

• 38:02Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 38:02Speaker 02

  Um, LeBron James, he won a championship in Cleveland.

• 38:06Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 38:07Speaker 02

  It was 2017?

• 38:08Speaker 00

  16.

• 38:09Speaker 02

  2016. Um, that's right. 2016 championship for the Cavs. What else has Cleveland won after that?

• 38:15Speaker 00

  Hmm.

• 38:18Speaker 03

  Nothing.

• 38:18Speaker 00

  Nothing.

• 38:19Speaker 03

  LeBron was a huge fan. Time to be talking about that. LeBron was a huge fan of the Angels. What is Cleveland doing right now? How they do, how are they doing?

• 38:28Speaker 02

  They're playing a game today, Max.

• 38:33Speaker 03

  What? Wait, what?

• 38:34Speaker 00

  It's so stupid because.

• 38:35Speaker 02

  You asked me what Cleveland is doing today. I said they're playing a baseball game.

• 38:39Speaker 00

  So much smarter to like resist it. And then it's like, we get to even the dumber portion, the dumber comments. And he's just like, what the fuck?

• 38:47Speaker 02

  I also want to know from Max, what is out of context about Michael Rubin saying, we were violating every rule the NBA had? That's a direct quote.

• 38:55Speaker 03

  I don't know. I just saw the, all the comments said this is out of context.

• 38:57Speaker 02

  Okay. All right. That's fair. That's fair. Yeah. Okay. Point taken.

• 39:01Speaker 03

  Yeah, I didn't see.

• 39:02Speaker 02

  Touche.

• 39:03Speaker 00

  Also, I'll just say like as a blanket rule, you, like this might even apply to Steve Ballmer too. Like if you don't win, if you violate rules and don't win, you shouldn't be punished.

• 39:15Speaker 00

  You know what I mean? It's like you didn't win anything.

• 39:17Speaker 02

  Here's some other.

• 39:18Speaker 00

  What, what are you gonna punish? Will you strip away your, your second round?

• 39:22Speaker 02

  Right.

• 39:23Speaker 00

  Appearance? You can't do that. The Dodgers different. Dodgers won. Mark Walter should be punished. Steve Ballmer didn't do shit.

• 39:31Speaker 02

  Here's, uh, here's some more direct quotes. We're violating every rule the NBA had.

• 39:34Speaker 03

  Out of context.

• 39:35Speaker 02

  You weren't allowed to take bets on your own team, but I was taking bets on the Sixers.

• 39:39Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 39:39Speaker 02

  You can't, you can't have, well, with Fanatics.

• 39:43Speaker 00

  Oh, with Fanatics.

• 39:44Speaker 02

  You can't have individual contracts with athletes. I, I, wait, wait. He said.

• 39:48Speaker 03

  Fanatics Sportsbook didn't exist when he was the owner.

• 39:50Speaker 00

  Hold on, let him finish.

• 39:51Speaker 03

  I, well, I'm, I, I will refute untrue facts.

• 39:54Speaker 02

  When did he sell his stake?

• 39:57Speaker 03

  Well before the Fanatics Sportsbook.

• 39:59Speaker 00

  Well, yeah, but keep, but before.

• 40:00Speaker 03

  So yeah, get your facts straight, little guy.

• 40:02Speaker 02

  Well, whoa, whoa, Max.

• 40:03Speaker 03

  Little boy.

• 40:04Speaker 02

  You don't have any facts, Max.

• 40:06Speaker 03

  I know that one. You came out with one fact and it was a quick.

• 40:10Speaker 02

  That was not a fact. You didn't tell me what date. We didn't sell it.

• 40:15Speaker 02

  There's zero facts.

• 40:16Speaker 03

  Sure, I'll, I'll tell you right now.

• 40:19Speaker 03

  I'll tell you right now.

• 40:20Speaker 02

  Let Matt, let Max think for a second.

• 40:22Speaker 03

  Michael Rubin, date of sale of Sixers.

• 40:26Speaker 02

  Okay, he completed his divestment in the company that owns the Sixers and the Devils.

• 40:30Speaker 03

  22.

• 40:31Speaker 02

  And that is the exact same year that Fanatics launched its sports book.

• 40:35Speaker 03

  That is a lie.

• 40:36Speaker 02

  22. Fanatics launched its sports betting business in 2022.

• 40:40Speaker 03

  Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

• 40:41Speaker 02

  You little big guy.

• 40:42Speaker 03

  Yes, he started the business, the.

• 40:44Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 40:45Speaker 03

  But when did it launch?

• 40:47Speaker 02

  In 2022.

• 40:48Speaker 03

  No, that's when the business, that's when he started the business. It did not launch in 2022. How much you wanna bet? How much you wanna bet?

• 40:56Speaker 02

  I'm reading a quote.

• 40:56Speaker 03

  How much you wanna bet?

• 40:57Speaker 02

  Max, I'm.

• 40:58Speaker 03

  How much do you wanna bet?

• 40:59Speaker 02

  I'm reading a quote right now that says.

• 41:01Speaker 03

  In 2022.

• 41:02Speaker 02

  Launched its sports betting business in 2022.

• 41:05Speaker 03

  They started the business, you could not bet on Fanatics in 2022.

• 41:10Speaker 02

  They launched their sports betting business in 2022. That is a direct quote, Max.

• 41:16Speaker 00

  Oh, man.

• 41:17Speaker 02

  You can't have individual contracts with athletes. I have 3,000 individual.

• 41:20Speaker 03

  2023.

• 41:21Speaker 02

  Deals with athletes.

• 41:22Speaker 03

  2023.

• 41:24Speaker 02

  The business was started in 2022.

• 41:26Speaker 03

  Place a bet on Fanatics during the limited beta testing launch in January of 2023. What you said is that he was betting through Fanatics on Sixers games.

• 41:36Speaker 02

  I know.

• 41:37Speaker 03

  Which is statistically impossible.

• 41:40Speaker 02

  I never said that.

• 41:40Speaker 03

  It is impossible what you just said.

• 41:43Speaker 02

  I never said that. You're confused because I didn't say that.

• 41:46Speaker 03

  Wasn't until August 16th of 2023.

• 41:49Speaker 02

  I didn't say that. Rubin said that. He was the one that, yes, the quote is, you weren't allowed to take bets on your own team, but I was taking bets on the Sixers. That is a quote from Michael Rubin.

• 42:00Speaker 03

  Through Fanatics.

• 42:00Speaker 02

  I said that Fanatics, they launched.

• 42:03Speaker 03

  Semantics.

• 42:03Speaker 02

  I'm saying that Fanatics launched in 2022.

• 42:05Speaker 00

  Battle at 11:30 PM.

• 42:07Speaker 02

  The, the business launched in 2022.

• 42:09Speaker 03

  But you also talked about it in a way of launch, in the, in a way of betting on the game. You could not bet on Fanatics in 2022.

• 42:16Speaker 02

  I didn't say that. Michael Rubin said I was taking bets on the Sixers. He said that, not me.

• 42:23Speaker 02

  Take it up with Rubin. I just want to know about the LeBron curse. He said, you're not allowed to have players invest in your business.

• 42:27Speaker 03

  It was not in 2022. You cannot bet, you cannot bet on Fanatics in 2022.

• 42:30Speaker 02

  2023. He said, you're, well, that's, take it up with Michael Rubin.

• 42:34Speaker 03

  Cause I mean, it's just fact.

• 42:35Speaker 02

  He said it, not me. Uh.

• 42:37Speaker 03

  He didn't ever said he bet, whatever.

• 42:38Speaker 02

  The quote, Max, the fucking quote.

• 42:40Speaker 03

  Said he bet on Fanatics.

• 42:42Speaker 02

  Fucking quote is you weren't allowed to take bets on your own team. I was taking bets on the Sixers. Michael Rubin said that. Get mad at him, not at me, you big fucking dumb animal. Wipe that, wipe the fucking spit off your nose and get your facts straight.

• 42:57Speaker 03

  You're the one who's spitting.

• 42:58Speaker 02

  You're the one who's spitting. You're not making any goddamn sense, you big galu, you dumb low max.

• 43:06Speaker 02

  You were just wrong. You were wrong. Take the old me off your You were wrong. And learn how to talk. It's all right. You were wrong. Sometimes you can be wrong. Sometimes you can be wrong. It's fine. Sometimes you can be wrong. Eagles can still make the playoffs.

• 43:21Speaker 00

  All right, let's kick it to ourselves for the preview.

• 43:24Speaker 02

  Fucking idiot.

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• 44:45Speaker 00

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  the official candy partner of Barstool Sports. Go get Reese's wherever you shop. Weeks, week six, NFL preview. What's up, boys? How we feeling? We've got four buys, uh, this week. Bengals, Lions, Dolphins, Vikings.

• 45:46Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 45:47Speaker 00

  How are we feeling?

• 45:48Speaker 02

  Great opportunity to compete this week.

• 45:49Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 45:50Speaker 02

  Feeling good. Feeling good about it.

• 45:51Speaker 00

  And you're in your Brewers jersey.

• 45:52Speaker 02

  I got the Brewers jersey that I put on. I waited to put this on until they were up three, nothing.

• 45:56Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 45:56Speaker 02

  I'm just, I, I don't want the Dodgers to win. The Brewers are nice enough to give me a, a customized jersey last year, so I have not worn it. I feel like if I'm ever going to put it on, now is the time.

• 46:05Speaker 00

  Now you feel like a big, strong man.

• 46:07Speaker 02

  Now I feel like

• 46:07Speaker 00

  Up three, nothing.

• 46:08Speaker 02

  Against the upstart, scrappy, underdog Dodgers.

• 46:10Speaker 00

  Let's go.

• 46:11Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 46:12Speaker 00

  Wasn't there for game one, but now he's got it.

• 46:14Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm.

• 46:14Speaker 00

  Yeah. What happens if they lose? Well, we, I guess we already talked about it.

• 46:17Speaker 02

  Burn the tape.

• 46:18Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 46:18Speaker 02

  Burn the tape. This is

• 46:19Speaker 00

  It'd be actually awkward, awkward if they lost.

• 46:21Speaker 02

  I'm saying this is, this is a hundred percent of front runner move on my part, putting the jersey

• 46:25Speaker 07

  They lose, you'll have the jersey off. We'll record later and the jersey will be nowhere to be found.

• 46:29Speaker 02

  Probably. Yes. But also like, again, I, the, the Brewers will tell you, I'm partially responsible for this massive turnaround the franchise had.

• 46:36Speaker 00

  What, in the last three years when they've won the most games in baseball?

• 46:39Speaker 02

  Yeah, I think there were, I, I said, I forget what the stat was. They were like 27 and 25. Then Arian and me threw out the first pitch and since that day

• 46:47Speaker 00

  What year was that?

• 46:48Speaker 02

  That was last year. But listen, they were 27 and 25. We threw out the first pitch. Since that pitch, they have been 175 and I think 103.

• 46:58Speaker 00

  But they were good the year before that, too.

• 47:00Speaker 02

  Yeah, but they weren't good to start the year.

• 47:02Speaker 00

  Got it.

• 47:02Speaker 02

  That's a, I mean, 100, 175 and

• 47:05Speaker 00

  It's a lot of wins.

• 47:05Speaker 02

  Whatever. That's, that's a pretty good record. So

• 47:07Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 47:08Speaker 02

  The least, the least I could do is put on a Brewers jersey today.

• 47:10Speaker 00

  Uh, okay. I, I'm excited for the buys, less games that we have to have our eyes on, less, I, I, I think eight games, nine games in the early slate was always, it was just too much football. Like, I know that's crazy to say. I'm not saying I want less football. I just want it spread out better because keeping track of nine games was always tough. I think we actually unfortunately still have, I think, eight games early because we have three games late.

• 47:36Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm.

• 47:36Speaker 00

  Uh, do we want to quickly, before we get into the games?

• 47:40Speaker 04

  Seven early.

• 47:41Speaker 00

  Seven early. That's a perfect number. I wish it was seven and four. That would be nicer. The late slate, which we'll get to, a lot of pressure because those look like there could be some mismatch games. So going to be a lot of pressure on, I'm going to say the Raiders. The Raiders are going to be my team that they gotta, they gotta show up and give us a good game. Otherwise

• 48:00Speaker 02

  Save the afternoon.

• 48:00Speaker 00

  Yeah, save the afternoon. Uh, do we have anything to say about Joe Buck and Troy Aikman fighting?

• 48:05Speaker 02

  I'm team, team Buck.

• 48:07Speaker 00

  Well, I'm team, I, I don't even think it's, I don't know if they're like beefing.

• 48:14Speaker 00

  I think it's just an awkward situation that unfortunately they have to deal with.

• 48:16Speaker 02

  I'm just saying, if there is a fight, if they are fighting, I'm on team Buck.

• 48:20Speaker 00

  I would imagine, I, it's, it's a lame answer to give and Ryan Glasspiegel, uh, front office sports, wrote an article that there was a big fight right before Monday Night Football. Uh, did not notice on the broadcast, by the way. Did not notice at all. Uh, but I would say this is one of those situations where I don't fault either side. Joe Buck is not going to turn down 108 million dollars. Troy Aikman has every right to be like, dude, this is kind of awkward. You got a new contract. I'm, I don't have a new contract. We're calling all these games. So I think as lame as that is to say, both sides have like a fair, what do you want me to do?

• 48:58Speaker 02

  I just wonder if there is some

• 48:59Speaker 00

  What are you guys laughing about?

• 49:00Speaker 02

  Movement behind the scenes.

• 49:01Speaker 00

  I'm so sick of you not turning on the fucking thing.

• 49:03Speaker 04

  You can't be pocket watching in the, in the booth.

• 49:05Speaker 00

  Yes. Yes. Meme's the biggest pocket watcher of all time.

• 49:08Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 49:08Speaker 00

  He's just realized like maybe two months ago that PFT and I, uh, after 15 years of doing this, I have some money, which we're very appreciative of, and he's been just pocket watching and making us feel uncomfortable for having money.

• 49:23Speaker 04

  It's a lot of money.

• 49:24Speaker 00

  Yeah, but you, like, what do you want us to do?

• 49:26Speaker 02

  I think, I think what happened was memes read the Forbes article and took every word of that as gossip.

• 49:30Speaker 00

  Yeah. And so we've been doing this for a long time.

• 49:33Speaker 02

  In his mind, he sees us and he, he doesn't see humans anymore. He sees, uh, he sees like robber barons or just walking big bags, like burlap sacks with a dollar sign on it.

• 49:42Speaker 04

  Yeah, you guys would just come in and be like, hey, I bought a beach today. Got my retractable roof.

• 49:47Speaker 00

  It's a fucking

• 49:48Speaker 04

  I'm like, that's sick.

• 49:49Speaker 07

  Tickets on the wood-ish.

• 49:51Speaker 00

  Yeah. It makes, just so you know.

• 49:54Speaker 02

  By the way, it's completely unnecessary until we know

• 49:56Speaker 07

  They're right. They're not on the wood.

• 49:57Speaker 02

  Where the tickets are.

• 49:57Speaker 00

  Memes, it makes me uncomfortable, just so you know.

• 50:02Speaker 04

  Uh, I'm sorry for that.

• 50:04Speaker 00

  Yeah. No, no, you're not. It doesn't matter. But it's like, pocket watching is an uncomfortable thing, especially it's like, what do you, what do you want me to say, dude? We, we, we

• 50:14Speaker 00

  should we apologize?

• 50:15Speaker 02

  All due respect, memes, you could just always grind harder.

• 50:17Speaker 04

  Yeah, that's true. I did buy that chair.

• 50:19Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 50:19Speaker 00

  Bought that chair.

• 50:20Speaker 02

  There you go. That's an investment. I actually want that inflatable chair.

• 50:25Speaker 02

  You want to trade?

• 50:27Speaker 04

  No, you can't have it.

• 50:28Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 50:29Speaker 00

  Trade your pool?

• 50:30Speaker 02

  Yeah, I'll give you full, full access to the pool. I'll give you a pool pass.

• 50:34Speaker 00

  Uh, but yeah, I don't

• 50:36Speaker 02

  No one's got, no one has a pool pass, by the way. You'd be one of one.

• 50:39Speaker 00

  That'd be sick.

• 50:40Speaker 04

  Membership card? That'd be nice.

• 50:41Speaker 02

  Anytime, anytime you want.

• 50:43Speaker 00

  Gold card.

• 50:44Speaker 04

  Gold.

• 50:44Speaker 02

  Yeah. Gold cards in my pool.

• 50:47Speaker 04

  That would be so scary if you just woke up in the morning, walked outside, memes are just in your pool.

• 50:51Speaker 02

  I'd let Blake run after him.

• 50:53Speaker 04

  Blake hates memes.

• 50:54Speaker 02

  Blake does hate me. Tried to kill him when he was like two months old.

• 50:58Speaker 00

  Um, but yeah, Aikman's probably gone from ESPN.

• 51:01Speaker 02

  Maybe.

• 51:02Speaker 00

  He, that comment he made today where he was just like, yeah, I'm a free agent after this year.

• 51:06Speaker 02

  It does feel interesting. Like who are they, who would they get to replace him? There's one obvious name, Pat McAfee. Um, and then there's a second other obvious name, Jason Kelsey.

• 51:15Speaker 00

  No, I thought you were going to say Tony Romo.

• 51:16Speaker 02

  Maybe a combination of Jason Kelsey and Pat McAfee. Like they tag each other out by quarter. Uh, or what we could do.

• 51:23Speaker 07

  Stephen A.

• 51:24Speaker 02

  Stephen A? Now we're talking? How about we just do all of them at once? Just like, never let them leave the first take set and lock them in that room and be like, okay, go guys.

• 51:32Speaker 00

  John Gruden.

• 51:33Speaker 02

  There is Gruden out there.

• 51:34Speaker 00

  No, I think Greg Olson.

• 51:35Speaker 02

  I was thinking Greg Olson. He called a Super Bowl, did a great job calling a Super Bowl. He got demoted only because they got Tom Brady and, you know, they had planned on having Tom Brady for a while and you're not going to turn down the opportunity to have Brady be your, your A-list broadcaster. But in all honesty, I think Greg Olson's better at the job than Brady is.

• 51:52Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 51:52Speaker 02

  And I think at some point, you don't get a taste for a Super Bowl and then, you know, you're not going to be content for the rest of your life being second banana.

• 52:00Speaker 00

  Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's, I, I, uh, yeah, I agree with that. Greg Olson definitely has aspirations for getting back to the, to the A booth. It's just weird. It's, I, I feel bad again for Joe Buck and Troy Aikman. I don't feel bad because they're both getting paid a lot of money, but it is a difficult situation. I don't think Joe Buck, like, would have made sense for him to be like, oh, I'm not signing a contract unless Troy Aikman signs a contract. And Troy Aikman's like, hey, dude, this kind of sucks for me. I don't know my future. You do.

• 52:30Speaker 02

  Yeah, I wonder if, um, if like Joe had given him a heads up in the past, because I know when they, when they went from Fox to ESPN together.

• 52:38Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 52:39Speaker 02

  It did feel like there was some concurrent negotiating going on.

• 52:42Speaker 00

  Right.

• 52:42Speaker 02

  And they were, had an understanding of what the outcome was going to be together. In this instance, maybe the fact that it's not might have rubbed Troy the wrong way. I'll give Troy a compliment, though. I, as a Cowboys quarterback, I don't actually hate him anymore. I, he's, he's moved past that where I don't harbor any resentment having a Dallas Cowboys quarterback calling the games as a Commander's Redskins football team fan. So he's, he's good at his job.

• 53:06Speaker 00

  He must be pumped to hear this.

• 53:08Speaker 02

  Yeah, he's good at his job.

• 53:09Speaker 00

  He's going to let out a big exhale.

• 53:11Speaker 02

  So it might not be a hundred million dollars, Troy, but, um, you get a thumbs up from me and that's honestly priceless.

• 53:17Speaker 00

  That's worth way more.

• 53:18Speaker 02

  Pool pass for Troy, too.

• 53:19Speaker 00

  Yeah, he, he, pool pass for Troy and Troy, next time you, on Monday Night Football, maybe you go back up to Joe Buck, you're like 108 million dollars, but did you see this? And just play this clip.

• 53:29Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm.

• 53:30Speaker 00

  And be like, PFT said he doesn't hate me anymore.

• 53:31Speaker 02

  Money's not everything in, in this world.

• 53:34Speaker 00

  Life is about more than just

• 53:36Speaker 02

  It is.

• 53:36Speaker 00

  The tangible things.

• 53:37Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 53:38Speaker 00

  Sometimes just the two, two thumbs up.

• 53:40Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm.

• 53:41Speaker 00

  Okay, uh, let's get into the games. First up, Hank, another international game, you fuck.

• 53:48Speaker 07

  This one sucks.

• 53:48Speaker 00

  Oh, oh, oh, oh.

• 53:50Speaker 02

  This one's what?

• 53:51Speaker 00

  This one sucks.

• 53:52Speaker 07

  This is a good game.

• 53:53Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 53:54Speaker 02

  Oh, it is.

• 53:55Speaker 00

  So you should want that. It's an important divisional game.

• 53:59Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 54:00Speaker 00

  Jaguars plus, uh, wait, is it, is it Jaguars or plus three?

• 54:04Speaker 04

  Minus two and a half.

• 54:05Speaker 00

  No, yeah, minus two and a half. Uh, over under is 42 and a half.

• 54:10Speaker 00

  It is a good game and they're playing it in fucking London.

• 54:15Speaker 07

  It's unfortunate.

• 54:16Speaker 02

  You should like this though.

• 54:17Speaker 07

  The divisional games should probably be like, they should probably be able to play like home divisional games at home.

• 54:22Speaker 02

  Well, also the Jaguars are just never going to be in Jacksonville ever again because they're getting the stadium renovations. They're going to have to play in Orlando. And so I think these are two true, not true, but they're two home games for Jacksonville. And I believe in the past, they've done, one will be a home game, one will be a road game.

• 54:39Speaker 00

  Mm hmm.

• 54:39Speaker 02

  But because of the renovations and all that stuff, these are both home games that Jacksonville is missing out on, which sucks if you are a Jaguars fan. But probably rocks for that one Jaguars fan over in England that dresses up in the bowler hat.

• 54:50Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 54:50Speaker 02

  And the ascot.

• 54:51Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 54:52Speaker 02

  Um, I wonder if anyone's staying with him this week, like Cam, Cam Little, come on, stay with the, uh, with the creepy guy.

• 54:57Speaker 00

  Mm hmm.

• 54:57Speaker 02

  I, I always love the Jaguars, the guys that get dressed up and they look like actual cats.

• 55:01Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 55:02Speaker 02

  In London and they go to the game. This sucks. It does suck that we're losing a division game to the international circus.

• 55:07Speaker 00

  I mean, we have like seven more of these coming too.

• 55:10Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 55:10Speaker 00

  Not division, but this, your, your dream NFL.

• 55:13Speaker 03

  I think there's a problem with next week's game too.

• 55:15Speaker 00

  Oh yeah. Cause they're protesting in Paris. Wee wee, they're getting upset.

• 55:20Speaker 07

  Who?

• 55:20Speaker 00

  Uh, the price of the baguette has fallen.

• 55:23Speaker 07

  So they're protesting in the NFL?

• 55:25Speaker 00

  No, they're protesting the price of the baguette going down. So now they're like, ooh, we should be scared to go. There's riots in the streets of Paris.

• 55:32Speaker 02

  You can't, you can't do anything in Paris.

• 55:34Speaker 03

  What do you mean the, the baguette?

• 55:36Speaker 00

  The, the price of the baguette has, uh.

• 55:38Speaker 07

  You should know this bread boy.

• 55:39Speaker 03

  Yeah. You're, it's not actually, you're not actually talking about bread.

• 55:43Speaker 02

  Max is panicking.

• 55:44Speaker 00

  Yeah, no, I, I was, I was, they are rioting. I made up the baguette thing.

• 55:49Speaker 03

  Got it.

• 55:49Speaker 02

  We've got a car, we've got a carb crisis. It's actually a shortage.

• 55:53Speaker 00

  Gets gone to a scent.

• 55:54Speaker 02

  It's actually, it's interesting. Max, Max comes back from Paris and all of a sudden there's a bread shortage.

• 55:59Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 56:00Speaker 03

  No, no, no, no.

• 56:00Speaker 02

  Where'd it all go?

• 56:01Speaker 00

  The baguette is worth so little, they're actually using them to start fires.

• 56:04Speaker 03

  That sounds good. That sounds like a positive that you're spending less money on bread.

• 56:09Speaker 00

  No, cause no one can make money anymore. That's the entire economy is people like in Paris, it's literally just, uh, cigarette smokers and baguette eaters. And everyone else is just making baguettes for the baguette eaters.

• 56:19Speaker 03

  Sounds, it sounds like I wasn't eating enough baguettes.

• 56:22Speaker 02

  Well, yeah, you ate too much.

• 56:24Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 56:24Speaker 03

  No.

• 56:24Speaker 02

  You ran them dry.

• 56:27Speaker 00

  Either way, there's, there's riots going on. I think it's like about, uh, school systems or I don't fucking know.

• 56:33Speaker 02

  They.

• 56:33Speaker 00

  Paris does it. They, they just do riots like pretty well. It's kind of in their history.

• 56:38Speaker 02

  It's kind of like, yeah, it's, it's a recreational activity.

• 56:40Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 56:41Speaker 02

  And it's why their sports teams, their owners are afraid to do anything against the fan base.

• 56:45Speaker 00

  Yeah, and I.

• 56:46Speaker 02

  There will be a riot.

• 56:47Speaker 00

  I think they actually like, I think the riots actually get things to change.

• 56:50Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 56:51Speaker 00

  Like they do a pretty good job at it.

• 56:52Speaker 02

  Well, they, they're not afraid to, to wheel out some contraptions that they used to use back in the day and just kind of point at them.

• 56:58Speaker 00

  Yeah. Overcrowded classrooms. That's a, okay.

• 57:02Speaker 02

  All right. Yeah, sure.

• 57:03Speaker 00

  Too many people.

• 57:03Speaker 02

  These are all things that we say that we want, right?

• 57:05Speaker 03

  Yeah, I'm pro education.

• 57:07Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 57:07Speaker 03

  Mm hmm.

• 57:07Speaker 00

  Well, are you?

• 57:10Speaker 03

  I'm, I'm, I'm very well educated.

• 57:14Speaker 02

  It's true. It is true.

• 57:16Speaker 03

  I don't know, but 20% acceptance rate made that number up, but something like that.

• 57:20Speaker 00

  Didn't you get in the easy way?

• 57:22Speaker 03

  Yeah, I transferred in.

• 57:23Speaker 00

  Yeah. Okay.

• 57:24Speaker 03

  Still got a degree.

• 57:26Speaker 00

  I like the Texans in this game. I think they're, they're the desperate team. It's go time. Uh, I know the Jaguars have been there. CJ Stroud's been playing well, and I'm a little worried about the Jaguars offensive line. That's all I'll say.

• 57:39Speaker 02

  The, uh, the last three seasons, Houston has been 16, 10 and one against the spread in weeks five through 18.

• 57:47Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 57:47Speaker 02

  So they, that's when they turn things around.

• 57:49Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 57:50Speaker 02

  And we all know that they start the season slow, but also against the spread, they tend to work people after the first, uh, four weeks. We can close the books on those.

• 57:57Speaker 00

  Mm hmm.

• 57:57Speaker 02

  Uh, I don't know. I think there's something to be said in my mind for the Jaguars staying overseas for an extra week. I don't know if that actually plays.

• 58:05Speaker 00

  Oh, for sure.

• 58:05Speaker 02

  If that plays out historically.

• 58:07Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 58:07Speaker 02

  Based on, on results. And you have to also include the fact that like the Jaguars have played a lot of games over there. They probably have the travel routine down.

• 58:14Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 58:14Speaker 02

  Better than most. Um, but also they played a lot of those games when they were a bad football team. So I don't know if there's like clean data behind it. I just feel like in general, if you stay in England, an extra week ahead of the game, you're probably going to be more locked in than if you just fly over there.

• 58:28Speaker 00

  Yeah. Although you probably had some bad breakfast.

• 58:31Speaker 02

  Beans.

• 58:32Speaker 00

  Yeah, to full tomatoes.

• 58:34Speaker 02

  Tomato.

• 58:35Speaker 00

  Tomatoes.

• 58:36Speaker 02

  They have blood pudding. You guys ever had blood pudding?

• 58:39Speaker 00

  No.

• 58:39Speaker 02

  It's gross.

• 58:40Speaker 00

  Oh, actually I have.

• 58:40Speaker 03

  I have.

• 58:41Speaker 00

  Yeah, it's.

• 58:42Speaker 03

  It's gross, but I kind of like it.

• 58:43Speaker 00

  Ew.

• 58:44Speaker 03

  I like know it's gross when I'm eating it, but it.

• 58:46Speaker 07

  It's tomato soup?

• 58:47Speaker 03

  No, it's like, it looks, it looks disgusting. Hank, you would hate it.

• 58:50Speaker 02

  It's like, it's like.

• 58:51Speaker 00

  Show us blood pudding.

• 58:52Speaker 07

  Spicy?

• 58:52Speaker 02

  It's this.

• 58:52Speaker 03

  It's sausage kind of.

• 58:54Speaker 02

  It's this patty of like kind of sausage, but it's also made with oats.

• 58:57Speaker 00

  Yeah, I've had it.

• 58:58Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 58:58Speaker 07

  Looks like a hamburger.

• 58:59Speaker 03

  No.

• 59:00Speaker 07

  It's like an espresso puck.

• 59:01Speaker 00

  It looks like dog food.

• 59:02Speaker 03

  It does look like.

• 59:03Speaker 07

  That's just a sausage.

• 59:04Speaker 00

  Yeah. No, but it's not. It has like the, the grains and shit in it too, right?

• 59:08Speaker 03

  I didn't know there was grains in it. I've always just been.

• 59:10Speaker 07

  Looks pretty good.

• 59:11Speaker 03

  I just kind of eat it. Let's see.

• 59:13Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 59:14Speaker 03

  Blood sausage seasoned with mace. I think that's what you're thinking of.

• 59:17Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 59:17Speaker 03

  Mace, salt, white peppers and onions. What is?

• 59:20Speaker 00

  What am I, what am I saying? I'd eat it. I eat it. Like it's meat.

• 59:24Speaker 03

  It's not my favorite one, but I, but.

• 59:27Speaker 00

  Mace is a rapper.

• 59:28Speaker 03

  If it's on my, if it's given to me on a plate, I will eat it. I won't go back for more though.

• 59:32Speaker 00

  Is Mace still rapping?

• 59:34Speaker 02

  No, he retired.

• 59:35Speaker 00

  Oh, he did?

• 59:36Speaker 02

  Famously retired super early.

• 59:37Speaker 07

  Yeah. No, he's doing, uh, he became a, he became a pastor.

• 59:40Speaker 00

  Mm hmm.

• 59:40Speaker 07

  And now he does a show with Cameron. That's very funny.

• 59:43Speaker 03

  My walk up song in college was welcome back.

• 59:45Speaker 00

  Oh, oh yeah.

• 59:46Speaker 02

  Yeah. Mace, I think he walked away like top of the game.

• 59:49Speaker 07

  Did he might, I think Diddy might've got to him.

• 59:51Speaker 00

  Ah.

• 59:52Speaker 02

  Yeah. He went, so he was like, I have to be a pastor now. That tells me that, yeah, there was some, I got atoned for some shit.

• 59:58Speaker 00

  Did he get beat up?

• 59:59Speaker 07

  Yeah. That crazy story.

• 1:00:02Speaker 00

  What? Tell us.

• 1:00:05Speaker 07

  Diddy, obviously it's, it's a, it's a guy that was like a drug kingpin, like an actual drug kingpin.

• 1:00:11Speaker 02

  You know what his name is?

• 1:00:11Speaker 07

  That's running the jail.

• 1:00:12Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:00:13Speaker 02

  The, the kingpin's name, you know, what his like legit guy given name is?

• 1:00:16Speaker 07

  Dune?

• 1:00:17Speaker 02

  Chris, Christopher Koch.

• 1:00:19Speaker 07

  Ooh. Yeah.

• 1:00:20Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:00:21Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:00:22Speaker 07

  But, uh, he, he's an actual like crazy, crazy drug kingpin. He's been in jail for 25 years. He runs the jail. Uh, and then a video came out. So it's like Diddy was going through him to get all the, you know, the hookups, cell phone, like all this luxurious jail stuff. Then a video came out that's like, oh, Diddy's got a phone. He's got all this stuff. And apparently that like, he got in trouble, like he got mad. The, the kingpin got mad that like their Spock got blown up. Cause after that video came out, there was a crackdown.

• 1:00:52Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:00:53Speaker 07

  So they got mad and then they, there was a, there was a fight.

• 1:00:55Speaker 00

  So he beat his ass?

• 1:00:57Speaker 07

  He had to get like rushed to urgent care.

• 1:00:59Speaker 00

  Wow.

• 1:00:59Speaker 07

  Cause of a head injury. Yeah.

• 1:01:00Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:01:01Speaker 03

  So they caged his head in?

• 1:01:02Speaker 00

  Caged his head in. Chris Dudas?

• 1:01:05Speaker 07

  Dudas.

• 1:01:07Speaker 03

  This is not a guy you want to fuck with.

• 1:01:08Speaker 00

  No.

• 1:01:09Speaker 07

  The, the, the stories of like the shit that him and his, his crew were doing are fucking insane. He was basically like the Pablo Escobar of Jamaica.

• 1:01:17Speaker 02

  So yeah, Diddy, what are you doing? He was the inspiration behind like the Jamaican fictional version of Scarface.

• 1:01:22Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 1:01:23Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:01:23Speaker 00

  Damn.

• 1:01:24Speaker 02

  Chris Koch.

• 1:01:25Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:01:27Speaker 07

  His dad killed Bob Marley.

• 1:01:29Speaker 00

  The CIA?

• 1:01:30Speaker 07

  For the CIA.

• 1:01:30Speaker 00

  For the CIA?

• 1:01:31Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 1:01:31Speaker 00

  Okay. Shit. Yeah. I like the Texans.

• 1:01:37Speaker 02

  You think D'Amico Ryan's is going to hand back defensive play calling this week and then take it back over again against the Giants?

• 1:01:42Speaker 00

  Smart. It would be smart for.

• 1:01:44Speaker 02

  You know what? Uh, you, you handled this one. I think you've grown in the last week. You handled the Jaguars. They get beat by the Jaguars and he's like, okay, I have to take it back for twice as long now. So you learn your lesson. So I'll handle it against the Giants and the Chargers.

• 1:01:56Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:01:57Speaker 02

  And then it's back to you. You know what? I'll do it three weeks. So we'll go against the Browns.

• 1:02:00Speaker 00

  Back and forth.

• 1:02:01Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:02:01Speaker 00

  Back and forth.

• 1:02:02Speaker 02

  You can take it back over when we play the Ravens.

• 1:02:04Speaker 00

  Um, okay. Let's go to, uh, the regular slate. I'll start Bears Falcons, Bears minus one and a half over, or it's 51 and a half. I am very nervous for this game, boys. Caleb should be back. Need Caleb back. I actually, let me start with this. If it's not Caleb, I'm not nervous for this game. I'm like, we're going to lose. But I'm nervous for this game regardless, because we are not a good defense. Montez Sweat out, uh, Diaw maybe hurt. TJ Edwards hurt. It's Bijon could have a day against the Bears defense.

• 1:02:38Speaker 02

  Yeah, the Bears, um, haven't got the turnovers that they got last year. Is this pretty much like the same type of defense? Except you just, you, you turn more of the miscues into turnovers last year. Is that the, the big difference or is it just like a much worse difference too?

• 1:02:52Speaker 00

  It's, uh, no, I would say it's, didn't upgrade anything on the defensive line. And, uh, Jalen Johnson is a year older and our big plan, Kobe Bryant, as the safety across from Danaman got hurt in the preseason. So it's, it's a worse, I think it's a worse defense probably.

• 1:03:13Speaker 02

  Uh, Pennix probably going to play.

• 1:03:15Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:03:16Speaker 02

  He's got tender ribs, which sounds delicious.

• 1:03:18Speaker 00

  So good.

• 1:03:18Speaker 02

  But he is going to try to give it a go. I think because they saw what happened when Tua went in. Tua should wear a guardian cap at quarterback.

• 1:03:25Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:03:26Speaker 02

  He should be the first to do it.

• 1:03:27Speaker 00

  He, no, remember he famously, he said he wasn't going to because he just trusts God.

• 1:03:31Speaker 02

  Yeah, but he should do.

• 1:03:32Speaker 00

  I don't know, dude.

• 1:03:33Speaker 02

  He should do it.

• 1:03:33Speaker 00

  I feel like God hasn't been helping you out.

• 1:03:35Speaker 02

  I think God's like, I, I sent a guardian cap to help you.

• 1:03:38Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:03:38Speaker 02

  Put it on.

• 1:03:40Speaker 00

  God, God was like, hey, I gave you, I, I had the Dolphins sign you for $200 million. You can walk away from this now.

• 1:03:45Speaker 02

  Yeah. I gave you, I gave you a mansion and a nice comfortable bed.

• 1:03:48Speaker 00

  Yeah. Go back, you go to Hawaii. You're from Hawaii, dude.

• 1:03:52Speaker 02

  There's a lot of, yeah, there's a lot of options that he should have right now.

• 1:03:55Speaker 00

  Yeah. But, uh, I, I, I think it's going to be Michael Pennix. I'm very nervous about our defense. I just really hope that Caleb's back because I do think that we can, we're just, the Bears are going to have to be a shootout team. We're going to have to be a shootout team. We're going to have to be a, a roller coaster season type of team where every game it's up and down. I know that, I knew that going in and we just need Caleb back to be able to successfully do that and not have it be a, we get, we get 30 on our head and we can't respond.

• 1:04:23Speaker 02

  Mm hmm.

• 1:04:23Speaker 00

  And Caleb has changed his, uh, what he changed his picture to John Wick.

• 1:04:27Speaker 02

  He's Joe Wick.

• 1:04:27Speaker 00

  Love that. I'm inevitable. And, uh, yeah, I'm, I just want to see Caleb back. Need 18 back. Just need, need, need to see him playing. I'm, I'm done with the, the, the backups.

• 1:04:38Speaker 02

  Ben Johnson, very, very good coach after a loss.

• 1:04:41Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:04:41Speaker 02

  Usually responds pretty well. This would be huge getting, getting Caleb back. Obviously. Do you think that Pennix is going to stick around? Is he going to be the starting quarterback in 2027? Are you, cause he's playing for that this year, I think, like, what, what are they going to do in the off season? Look at free agency, look at the draft, or are they going to be happy with Pennix as their quarterback?

• 1:04:58Speaker 00

  Hmm.

• 1:04:59Speaker 02

  Cause right now I think as it stands, I think you, you stick with Pennix. It's very early, but right now I think if we're making a dial, the Pennix dial.

• 1:05:07Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:05:08Speaker 02

  Uh, the Pennix has swung to the left.

• 1:05:10Speaker 00

  I think it's, can he stay on the field?

• 1:05:12Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:05:12Speaker 00

  Stay on the field. Yeah. He's worth keeping around because you still have him under contract, right?

• 1:05:16Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:05:16Speaker 00

  Yeah. Also, I just want to say that, uh, Colson Loveland, I think he's going to have a big game because I'm personally counting last game as he had 10 catches. Because I watched some of the tape, tape watcher, no big deal. He was open on so many chances for Tyson Bajin, so I'm just gonna count it as 10 catches. So if you, if anyone wants to update their fantasy team, he had 10 catches for 105 yards.

• 1:05:38Speaker 02

  What about Manungai?

• 1:05:41Speaker 00

  Still hurt and week to week. Also, Deandre Swift, still hurt week to week. So that's a problem. Both those things are big time problems. Roshan Johnson, great special teams player. I don't think he can be the one carrying the ball. So need, need one of the guys to be back.

• 1:05:57Speaker 02

  I'm lucky enough to have never experienced turf toe myself. I don't know what it's like going through it. I know it sucks, but is it a day to day thing? Like, do you wake up some days and the turf toe feels better than others? Or is it just, you have to, it's gonna hurt for

• 1:06:11Speaker 00

  I think it's gonna hurt. Can he get through it where he doesn't hurt himself even more?

• 1:06:15Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:06:16Speaker 00

  We'll see. Injury.

• 1:06:18Speaker 02

  Cause I love watching Calvin Nungai run. He's one of my favorite players to watch.

• 1:06:21Speaker 00

  It's a very important piece of the Bears offense. This is gonna be a big like injury report game. See, you know, don't wait till you see who's actually playing in this game, whether it be Swift, Manungai, Penix, Caleb. You gotta see the injury report. Okay, next game. Ravens, Browns, Browns plus five and a half. Speaking of Tua, by the way, did you see the quote from Marlon Humphrey? He said that as soon as Tua entered the game, Kyle Hamilton knew he was getting an interception. Kyle was like, Tua in the game. It was the most excited I've probably ever seen him. That's bad. When the opposing defense is just yelling Tua in the game and being like, I'm gonna get one.

• 1:07:02Speaker 02

  Yeah, he's looking at him like a, like a cartoon cat looks at a cartoon bird when it turns into just like a turkey basting in the oven.

• 1:07:08Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:07:09Speaker 02

  Yep. Yeah, that must be a good feeling.

• 1:07:11Speaker 00

  Yeah. Also, Marlon Humphrey said that it's always weird playing in Cleveland. He said, just weird shit happens. It's always just been weird. Going back to the good weirds with the Lamar poop game. There's just all types of things that have happened. I like Marlon.

• 1:07:25Speaker 02

  Yeah, weird shit happens in Cleveland. That is, that is a fact. They, the Browns, they, the trap got them.

• 1:07:33Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:07:33Speaker 02

  So what is this week? Cause they, they did not avoid the trap.

• 1:07:36Speaker 00

  Oh, I don't know.

• 1:07:36Speaker 02

  Do we start, do we start over at ground zero? I feel like he might have to go back to the start.

• 1:07:43Speaker 00

  I think it's, oh no, I think he has like, Dom has like win two of the next three or something.

• 1:07:48Speaker 02

  Okay, so there is.

• 1:07:49Speaker 03

  I looked this up earlier this week.

• 1:07:54Speaker 00

  Well, now you have it in front of you. So why are you getting upset? Just look it up yourself.

• 1:07:57Speaker 03

  Don't let, I'm allowed to get upset when I want to get upset.

• 1:07:59Speaker 00

  Yeah, but why are you upset about something that you can look up yourself?

• 1:08:02Speaker 03

  Remember it. Sometimes you want to do brain exercises.

• 1:08:04Speaker 00

  Who cares if you remember this?

• 1:08:06Speaker 02

  Max is educated.

• 1:08:08Speaker 00

  That's not like a trivia, like, oh, who started in this game? It's the monk in revenge. Prove yourself. No, you didn't. You actually didn't know it.

• 1:08:16Speaker 03

  Shut up.

• 1:08:17Speaker 02

  The monk in revenge.

• 1:08:18Speaker 00

  Am I right? Guys, Max did not.

• 1:08:20Speaker 03

  If you let me think, I could have remembered it. You wouldn't let me think. Sometimes you, you have to think to use your brain.

• 1:08:26Speaker 02

  I don't know if you can have a revenge game if you leave somewhere to become a head coach.

• 1:08:30Speaker 03

  That's why, that's why I remembered it. Cause it was funny for my daughter. I, I remembered it.

• 1:08:36Speaker 03

  You guys gave me no, no time to think. Zero time.

• 1:08:39Speaker 02

  We're doing a podcast. We can't, okay, next time we'll give you as much time. We'll sit here inside.

• 1:08:43Speaker 03

  There's so many thinking podcasts out there.

• 1:08:46Speaker 00

  Like what? Name one.

• 1:08:47Speaker 03

  Everyone.

• 1:08:49Speaker 02

  Call her daddy. They always talk about getting brain.

• 1:08:51Speaker 03

  Yep. Head.

• 1:08:52Speaker 00

  Thinking podcasts?

• 1:08:54Speaker 03

  Yep. True crime. They think all the time on there.

• 1:08:59Speaker 03

  I can't even name a true.

• 1:09:01Speaker 00

  No, you can't. You can't do any. Wait, no, no, no, no. Hold on. Go ahead.

• 1:09:08Speaker 03

  Monk in revenge. Got it.

• 1:09:09Speaker 00

  No, no, no. True crime. Go ahead. Take as much time as you need.

• 1:09:13Speaker 03

  I just said, I don't know.

• 1:09:15Speaker 00

  Think about it.

• 1:09:17Speaker 03

  I just said, I don't know. I said, I do know this. If you let me think, I just said, I don't know any true crime podcast.

• 1:09:23Speaker 00

  You gotta be able to think of one.

• 1:09:25Speaker 03

  Uh, the case.

• 1:09:27Speaker 00

  Okay, there you go. There you go. Good job. Good job.

• 1:09:29Speaker 02

  Good thought.

• 1:09:30Speaker 00

  Yeah. All right. We gotta let, we gotta let Max think some more.

• 1:09:33Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:09:35Speaker 03

  So much smarter if you just let me think.

• 1:09:36Speaker 00

  Monk in revenge. Prove yourself. Yeah. I don't think it's a revenge if you left to get an awesome job.

• 1:09:41Speaker 02

  I think it's, yeah, you are, you know, you left home.

• 1:09:45Speaker 00

  Well, not an awesome job. All right. I shouldn't have said awesome.

• 1:09:47Speaker 02

  Yeah, no, you ran away to join the circus and now the circus is back in your hometown. And so you're like, I wonder if my family's gonna come out to see me as a clown.

• 1:09:54Speaker 00

  Mm hmm. I kinda like the Browns in this game. I do agree with Marlon Humphrey. Every, every time the Ravens play in Cleveland, it does feel like weird shit happens.

• 1:10:02Speaker 02

  Yeah, I, I agree with you on this. I think that I like the Browns. It's Baltimore, what, four and a half?

• 1:10:08Speaker 00

  Uh, five and a half, I think. And Quinshon Jenkins might not be playing, I believe, which that is, that's important. Yeah, five and a half.

• 1:10:15Speaker 02

  Five and a half. So I love the Browns in that circumstance. Like, yeah, going to Cleveland, division game, Browns will play teams that they're familiar with, very, very tough. I can see the Browns winning outright.

• 1:10:25Speaker 00

  Ooh, like that.

• 1:10:26Speaker 02

  I don't think it's gonna happen. I want to just make sure to say that. Well, if it's gonna be Snoop, yes, I could definitely see the Browns winning outright. If it's Lamar, probably not.

• 1:10:36Speaker 00

  So what's your final answer?

• 1:10:37Speaker 02

  My final answer.

• 1:10:38Speaker 00

  Don't Josh Pate yourself.

• 1:10:39Speaker 02

  My, yeah, my final answer, a lot of people are saying that this is a game that the Browns could win.

• 1:10:44Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:10:45Speaker 02

  A lot of people.

• 1:10:45Speaker 00

  The weather shows up?

• 1:10:46Speaker 02

  From so many people.

• 1:10:47Speaker 00

  Browns.

• 1:10:48Speaker 02

  No, I'm, I'm gonna, my, my stance is firm. I am taking the Browns against the spread.

• 1:10:53Speaker 00

  Against spread.

• 1:10:53Speaker 02

  A hundred percent. Yes.

• 1:10:54Speaker 00

  That's fair.

• 1:10:55Speaker 02

  I'm not taking the Browns money line.

• 1:10:56Speaker 03

  Teams are 0-4 after playing the Jets.

• 1:11:00Speaker 02

  In case you beat them up.

• 1:11:01Speaker 00

  You kick their ass?

• 1:11:02Speaker 03

  I just want everyone to know that.

• 1:11:03Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:11:03Speaker 00

  That's good stat.

• 1:11:04Speaker 02

  Something to monitor.

• 1:11:05Speaker 00

  Yeah. So Browns have no chance.

• 1:11:10Speaker 02

  But maybe cover.

• 1:11:11Speaker 03

  It's good for the Bears though.

• 1:11:13Speaker 00

  Why?

• 1:11:13Speaker 03

  You play Patriots Thursday.

• 1:11:16Speaker 00

  Wait, what?

• 1:11:17Speaker 02

  The, the Jets play the Patriots this weekend.

• 1:11:19Speaker 00

  Oh, got it, got it, got it. Teams after facing. Bad for us last week because we lost to the Packers.

• 1:11:26Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:11:27Speaker 00

  Yeah, I wish we had, I wish, yeah.

• 1:11:28Speaker 03

  Double edged sword.

• 1:11:29Speaker 00

  Yeah. It gets you and then it can get someone else. All right, memes. I like it. What were you gonna say?

• 1:11:35Speaker 07

  Uh, wrong game stat.

• 1:11:37Speaker 00

  You just started, you just started ripping a stat that wasn't.

• 1:11:39Speaker 07

  It was about Robert Sala.

• 1:11:41Speaker 03

  Maybe you thought a little bit more, you would have been able to realize.

• 1:11:44Speaker 02

  Do the loud breathing.

• 1:11:45Speaker 00

  You know what? Titans, uh, plus seven at Colts.

• 1:11:49Speaker 07

  It was from the first game.

• 1:11:52Speaker 00

  Wait, you just, you just tried to hit, give us a stat from three games ago?

• 1:11:56Speaker 07

  It was about Robert Sala. I was thinking Jets.

• 1:11:58Speaker 03

  You think Robert's lost, still coaches the Jets?

• 1:12:01Speaker 02

  Teams that are facing.

• 1:12:02Speaker 03

  Not the Jets coaching.

• 1:12:03Speaker 00

  Let Mac, let Mac finish his stat.

• 1:12:06Speaker 07

  It is an interesting stat. Uh, cause it, part of it was when Robert Sala was the Jets coach. Teams the week after facing Robert Sala are 16.

• 1:12:16Speaker 00

  Getting annoying.

• 1:12:17Speaker 07

  16 and straight up, 16 and 26 straight up over the last five seasons. So that's the Texans.

• 1:12:25Speaker 00

  Straight up. I kinda like this. Maybe always be three games behind. We'll get to it and then just.

• 1:12:31Speaker 07

  Talked about.

• 1:12:32Speaker 00

  Oh, here's my Bears Falcons stat.

• 1:12:33Speaker 07

  And then I just, yeah. If you just let me think more, I could have got it right.

• 1:12:37Speaker 03

  It's true. I agree. I'm on your side. I know.

• 1:12:42Speaker 00

  All right. Titans plus seven against the Colts.

• 1:12:45Speaker 07

  Left side.

• 1:12:46Speaker 00

  Over under 44 and a half. Is there any Robert Sala stats for this?

• 1:12:50Speaker 07

  Which game?

• 1:12:50Speaker 00

  Titans Colts.

• 1:12:51Speaker 07

  Nope.

• 1:12:51Speaker 00

  He's the coach of the Titans.

• 1:12:52Speaker 07

  I got nothing.

• 1:12:53Speaker 02

  Now, now do the, do the Robert Sala stat.

• 1:12:57Speaker 07

  This doesn't, this doesn't apply.

• 1:12:59Speaker 02

  Well, no, so we can prepare for next week.

• 1:13:02Speaker 07

  Yes. Uh, between the Jets and now the Titans, teams the week after facing Robert Sala are 16 and 26 straight up over the last five seasons.

• 1:13:10Speaker 02

  All right. So maybe bet against the Colts next weekend after they're done playing against the Titans.

• 1:13:14Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:13:14Speaker 02

  Yeah. Yeah. Make sure to remember that for next Thursday.

• 1:13:17Speaker 00

  Uh, for the Titans, we're at the point of the season where all the new guys are like, oh man, this, no one prepared me for this. Carnell Tate said, I'm starting 0-5. I ain't ever lose like this in my life. So it's always a fun. When you get like the guys from the really good college programs are like, this isn't what I've been used to at all.

• 1:13:37Speaker 02

  No, it's bad. It's very, very bad. He's, he's, Cam Ward is dead last in most statistics.

• 1:13:43Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 1:13:44Speaker 02

  Uh, if you just sort by whatever quarterback angle that you're looking at, it's probably gonna be Cam Ward in last place right now. They do have Mitch Trubisky. If it's time to make a change.

• 1:13:55Speaker 00

  Yeah, Robert, Robert Sala said it's not though.

• 1:13:58Speaker 02

  It's not. He's, he said he's sticking with it, but at some point, if you want, there arrives a time where a coach has to kinda save and salvage the, the team that he has for the guys that will stick around next year.

• 1:14:10Speaker 00

  Well.

• 1:14:11Speaker 02

  To say like, okay, I'm gonna give you guys a chance to look good on film.

• 1:14:14Speaker 00

  Right. I, I had a question because I saw the, the, the quote, they were asking about it. And Cam Ward and, and Robert Sala said, uh, actually Hank, go ahead. Said, making changes is a sign of panic. This is not the time. We're in game five of year one.

• 1:14:36Speaker 00

  Are we sure this is year two?

• 1:14:38Speaker 02

  Hmm. For Cam?

• 1:14:42Speaker 00

  For everyone.

• 1:14:43Speaker 02

  Yeah. I don't know. I think so.

• 1:14:46Speaker 00

  I think so too.

• 1:14:47Speaker 02

  I think there will be.

• 1:14:48Speaker 00

  Well, if they don't win a game, maybe not. To be like, it's just year one. I don't know. Not always get year two.

• 1:14:56Speaker 02

  You can show signs of improvement. Maybe. Yeah. I mean, it's early. It's early to have the conversation. If everyone quits on you, then I could see that. Yeah.

• 1:15:04Speaker 00

  But also the Titans have made no sense with, I, I read the whole thing on Wednesday. They're six and 33 since firing Mike Vrabel. It's, it's just a bad, bad, bad scene.

• 1:15:13Speaker 02

  They've lost 11 straight divisional games.

• 1:15:15Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:15:16Speaker 02

  Think about that.

• 1:15:17Speaker 00

  31 teams have completed at least one pass thrown 30 plus yards down the field this season. And then there's the Titans.

• 1:15:23Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:15:24Speaker 00

  That's, I think the Colts, the, this is one of those games, the Colts have to beat them and beat them soundly. If you, like, it's almost a test game of, is the Colts, are the Colts going to be a threat at maybe getting into the playoffs in a crowded AFC? It's like, you gotta beat this team and beat the fuck out of them.

• 1:15:42Speaker 02

  Is this, uh, is this the game that Jonathan Taylor finally goes off?

• 1:15:46Speaker 00

  Yeah, he had a good, uh, what was the game? He had a game earlier this season where I think he had three touchdowns, but yeah.

• 1:15:51Speaker 02

  The three touchdowns. Yeah. But I mean, like goes off in terms of like a consistent running game for him because they haven't had that this year.

• 1:15:57Speaker 00

  Yeah. He had the, the game against the Chiefs. He had a pretty nice game. He had two touchdowns, 134 yards from scrimmage. Yeah.

• 1:16:06Speaker 03

  So had two touchdowns and 95 yards against commanders.

• 1:16:08Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:16:08Speaker 03

  Running at five yards a carry.

• 1:16:11Speaker 00

  That's a pretty good game.

• 1:16:13Speaker 02

  He hasn't, he has not, fact or fiction, he has not gone off this year.

• 1:16:18Speaker 04

  I mean, 95 yards, two tutties is pretty.

• 1:16:20Speaker 02

  How many hundred yard games does he have this year running the football?

• 1:16:23Speaker 04

  His two games at 95 yards.

• 1:16:25Speaker 02

  Okay, so that sounds like a zero.

• 1:16:27Speaker 00

  Yeah, he does have zero of those.

• 1:16:29Speaker 04

  Okay. And he has another game of 92.

• 1:16:32Speaker 02

  But I mean, it's a guy that he used to be putting up 150, 160 yards.

• 1:16:36Speaker 04

  But you're acting like he's.

• 1:16:38Speaker 00

  I think the Chiefs game would be qualified, the 132 yards from scrimmage with two touchdowns would be a pretty damn good game. But yeah.

• 1:16:46Speaker 02

  They need to have a consistent rushing attack is what I'm saying.

• 1:16:49Speaker 00

  This could be the game.

• 1:16:49Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:16:50Speaker 00

  This could, although the Titans defense isn't the worst. That's gotta be so hard if you're Titans defender, just having. Ugh, ugh, uh, the Colts, by the way, the Colts actually, I, I, I say that like, we don't know what the Colts, we know exactly what the Colts are. Can we just all agree on what the Colts are? They're a team that is, that is, that will finish somewhere around 500 and they will beat all the teams below them and they will lose to every single one of their teams above them.

• 1:17:19Speaker 02

  It's like a grocery stick?

• 1:17:21Speaker 00

  They are exactly a grocery.

• 1:17:23Speaker 02

  They're a grocery stick, separates the, the worst, the bad teams from the maybe good team.

• 1:17:27Speaker 00

  They have, the Colts have lost the last 18 of 21 games against teams over 500. They are the grocery stick team of the NFL. If you play the Colts and you lose to the Colts, you are a bad team. If you play the Colts and you beat the Colts, you are a good team. That's pretty much it. It's how it just goes. So, yeah, enjoy the fact that they're the grocery stick team. I think the Titans are a bad team, so I'm gonna take the Colts.

• 1:17:56Speaker 02

  Do we think that the Colts are going to get better as the quarterback gets healthier?

• 1:18:01Speaker 00

  No, I think they're gonna stay the grocery stick.

• 1:18:03Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:18:03Speaker 00

  Exactly the grocery stick, which will keep, which kind of teases, hasn't this just been what the Colts have been for the last like five years, basically? Since Andrew Luck retired?

• 1:18:12Speaker 02

  Really, yeah, probably longer than that.

• 1:18:14Speaker 00

  It's just like exactly what they are.

• 1:18:16Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:18:16Speaker 00

  Uh, okay, next up. Jets Patriots.

• 1:18:23Speaker 00

  Memes, Hank?

• 1:18:25Speaker 02

  Hate week.

• 1:18:26Speaker 00

  Patriots are minus seven and a half over under 43 and a half and all of Hank's holes are on the line.

• 1:18:34Speaker 07

  Memes?

• 1:18:35Speaker 04

  Hank?

• 1:18:36Speaker 07

  I think Patriots are gonna win by 14.

• 1:18:39Speaker 00

  14.

• 1:18:39Speaker 07

  Christian Gonzalez back.

• 1:18:43Speaker 07

  And we're just, we're, we're firing on all cylinders.

• 1:18:46Speaker 00

  Jets defense is not bad.

• 1:18:50Speaker 07

  It's not bad.

• 1:18:50Speaker 04

  The cavalry is not coming back.

• 1:18:52Speaker 00

  Oh, no. What happened?

• 1:18:55Speaker 04

  They said week to week, it's been a month. And that means a month to month.

• 1:18:59Speaker 00

  So who's, who's not coming back that you thought was coming back?

• 1:19:02Speaker 04

  Breece Hall. Our left guard.

• 1:19:06Speaker 04

  Omar's back, though.

• 1:19:07Speaker 07

  Omar coming.

• 1:19:09Speaker 02

  Can I, can I guess?

• 1:19:10Speaker 07

  Unfortunately, it's not gonna be a hurricane for memes either. If it was.

• 1:19:13Speaker 02

  Good weather?

• 1:19:15Speaker 07

  Uh, yeah, just no rain, a little chilly.

• 1:19:17Speaker 02

  Can I gas you up a little bit, memes?

• 1:19:19Speaker 04

  Yeah, hell yeah.

• 1:19:19Speaker 02

  I found, um, I found five stats out there that the Jets went from, uh, bottom five in the NFL to top five in. From last year to this year.

• 1:19:29Speaker 00

  Let's go.

• 1:19:30Speaker 02

  Opponent, opponent points per game. They were 31st last year, now they're fifth. Pretty good, they went from 29.6 to 19.2. Completion percentage last year, they were 29th, 60.3%. This year, they're third, 69.4%. Last year, sacks per game, 31st with one and a half sacks per game. This year, they're third, 3.4 sacks per game. They did have eight sacks last week. Defensive sack rate, 29th last year, 4.8%. This year, second, 9.6%. Uh, pass protection versus expected, they were 28th last year, they were first this year. So there you go, things, some things are turning around.

• 1:20:13Speaker 00

  The defense has looked better.

• 1:20:15Speaker 04

  Yeah, the defense is significantly improved.

• 1:20:16Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:20:17Speaker 04

  Now, that could be rain, but. Still improved.

• 1:20:22Speaker 00

  What, uh, so Hank, are you even like, you're not even a little bit worried? What, what would be a score, a score in, in time that would have you be, oh man, I should be a little concerned?

• 1:20:32Speaker 07

  Down 10 with seven minutes ago.

• 1:20:35Speaker 00

  Okay, downtown with seven minutes, so even if you were, if you were down. 21 and a half, it wouldn't be a concern.

• 1:20:44Speaker 07

  No.

• 1:20:45Speaker 00

  Wow.

• 1:20:48Speaker 00

  Like any, any, no matter what the setup, down 21 and a half.

• 1:20:51Speaker 02

  Still in it.

• 1:20:51Speaker 00

  A little concerned.

• 1:20:54Speaker 02

  I have a question.

• 1:20:54Speaker 07

  Yes. LG.

• 1:20:57Speaker 02

  You know, again, that's not, that's not your thing. Sorry, thing, get an original one?

• 1:21:01Speaker 00

  That's for people at home.

• 1:21:02Speaker 02

  Well, it's memes.

• 1:21:04Speaker 04

  Yeah, it's my guy.

• 1:21:05Speaker 00

  PFT calls him little guy.

• 1:21:08Speaker 02

  Henry.

• 1:21:10Speaker 00

  LG.

• 1:21:10Speaker 02

  My question for you. My friend. Do we know what the Patriots are doing with the Keeper of the Light? Have they stopped doing that entirely?

• 1:21:21Speaker 07

  I don't think so.

• 1:21:21Speaker 02

  Did we bully them out of?

• 1:21:23Speaker 07

  No.

• 1:21:23Speaker 02

  Out of doing the Keeper of the Light ceremony?

• 1:21:25Speaker 00

  We might have.

• 1:21:26Speaker 07

  No, last week they had the whole entire 2001 team back.

• 1:21:30Speaker 02

  Yeah, but are they the Keeper of the Light?

• 1:21:32Speaker 07

  Uh, that was a special ceremony, so that might've like, they might've done that in, in, in lieu of, uh, of it, but no.

• 1:21:39Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:21:39Speaker 00

  Is there no more Keeper of the Light?

• 1:21:40Speaker 07

  No, there absolutely is.

• 1:21:41Speaker 02

  I went on, I went on the website, I didn't see any updates to it, so I guess they've stopped.

• 1:21:45Speaker 00

  You went on the Keeper.

• 1:21:46Speaker 02

  I went on the Lighthouse's website yesterday to check this out, because I haven't heard any.

• 1:21:49Speaker 07

  They had one on, on, uh, September 20th.

• 1:21:52Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:21:53Speaker 07

  And then last week, I think they did the, the 2001, we won the Super Bowl, so they did a little like.

• 1:21:57Speaker 00

  Who is this September 20th?

• 1:21:59Speaker 07

  Uh, Stephen Gilmore.

• 1:22:00Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:22:00Speaker 02

  That is, that is good to know, because when I went and I checked it out, um, I did not see, I don't think that they've been updating the Keeper of the Light. So Hank's face was one of the first pictures that I saw when I looked at the website.

• 1:22:13Speaker 07

  Well, that's just probably like clicks, like they're going with the.

• 1:22:15Speaker 00

  Yeah, page you, Hank, page you.

• 1:22:18Speaker 00

  Is, is, uh, Glenn, is Glenn in retirement? Does he run? Does he tuck his tail and go?

• 1:22:23Speaker 02

  See, look, here's the Keeper of the Light website right here.

• 1:22:26Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:22:26Speaker 02

  And they own, they have 2025.

• 1:22:28Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's true.

• 1:22:29Speaker 02

  And they haven't put anything on there.

• 1:22:31Speaker 00

  Huh.

• 1:22:31Speaker 02

  For 2026, so I don't know what's happening.

• 1:22:33Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's weird, they haven't updated it. Something to watch. Is Glenn, is Glenn done?

• 1:22:38Speaker 02

  Uh, I haven't watched any Glenn this week. I think he, he, last I saw on his Twitter account, he was like up in a cabin in northern Wisconsin, laying low. I think there were some people that were kind of harassing him online for some money. And I think, yeah, yeah, so he put out like a big notes app statement saying that he was, he was hiding.

• 1:22:56Speaker 04

  I've got nothing from Glenn this week.

• 1:22:58Speaker 02

  Nothing from Glenn this week?

• 1:22:59Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:22:59Speaker 00

  Damn.

• 1:22:59Speaker 07

  Almost no cell reception.

• 1:23:01Speaker 04

  Glenn and I normally chat around this time every week, we, we've had no such chat so far.

• 1:23:06Speaker 02

  Hmm, really?

• 1:23:09Speaker 04

  Maybe, wait a minute.

• 1:23:12Speaker 02

  Give back some time to think.

• 1:23:14Speaker 00

  Max, you need a second? Need a second to think, Max?

• 1:23:18Speaker 04

  Well, I need a second to look.

• 1:23:20Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:23:20Speaker 07

  So look.

• 1:23:21Speaker 02

  Yes, well, first he has, he has to think before he looks.

• 1:23:23Speaker 07

  Look on the fucking.

• 1:23:24Speaker 04

  Yeah, no, well, I like to look, I just want to make sure, uh, no, I have nothing from Glenn. So that was correct.

• 1:23:32Speaker 04

  Well, PFT looks at his phone, uh, I think, but Garrett Wilson said this is a big game this week, so we'll see how the Jets play in a big game.

• 1:23:41Speaker 00

  Are you, are you gonna be, uh, in the office?

• 1:23:47Speaker 04

  Uh, potentially.

• 1:23:49Speaker 00

  I think you should be.

• 1:23:50Speaker 02

  Yeah, what do you mean potentially?

• 1:23:51Speaker 00

  I'm not saying you have to be in the cave for the whole game, but I think if it gets close, you have to be in the cave.

• 1:23:56Speaker 04

  Okay. The international game's fucked up my schedule.

• 1:23:59Speaker 00

  Yeah, you, I've noticed you haven't been in here.

• 1:24:03Speaker 04

  Just up all night.

• 1:24:04Speaker 00

  What?

• 1:24:05Speaker 04

  Up all night watching college, wake up, just tired.

• 1:24:09Speaker 00

  Skip that one, just get in here for.

• 1:24:12Speaker 02

  I think you should be in for the Jets, I want to see, I want to see you and Hank going at it.

• 1:24:16Speaker 04

  Fair.

• 1:24:17Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:24:17Speaker 04

  And if the Jets win.

• 1:24:18Speaker 02

  People want that too, yeah.

• 1:24:19Speaker 04

  What a moment that would be. Massive surprise.

• 1:24:21Speaker 00

  You literally get to put your, you get every hole.

• 1:24:26Speaker 00

  What?

• 1:24:28Speaker 07

  Truth bomb incoming.

• 1:24:29Speaker 04

  Glenn, Glenn just.

• 1:24:30Speaker 00

  Oh, Glenn just, that's a crazy timing.

• 1:24:33Speaker 04

  Coincidence.

• 1:24:33Speaker 00

  Oh, my God.

• 1:24:34Speaker 04

  Glenn just reached out.

• 1:24:36Speaker 02

  By the way, everyone out there thinks that it's me, it's, I don't know who Glenn is.

• 1:24:40Speaker 04

  That was wild, though, how that happened.

• 1:24:42Speaker 02

  Yeah. I might, maybe I know some people that know some people that know Glenn, but I, I am not Glenn.

• 1:24:48Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:24:48Speaker 02

  I, I suspect it's Max.

• 1:24:50Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm. Agreed.

• 1:24:54Speaker 00

  Okay, uh, Hank, so you, you 14, and your official prediction memes?

• 1:25:00Speaker 04

  It depends.

• 1:25:01Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:25:05Speaker 04

  Like if they show up, I mean, historically, we'd lose. We were like 18 and two in the past decade in Foxborough.

• 1:25:10Speaker 00

  Hmm.

• 1:25:11Speaker 04

  But Drake May is capable of playing like absolute dog shit and you gotta figure out a way to make him play like dog shit.

• 1:25:16Speaker 00

  Yeah. Is A.J. Brown playing, Hank?

• 1:25:19Speaker 07

  No.

• 1:25:19Speaker 00

  He's just practicing.

• 1:25:20Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 1:25:21Speaker 04

  The Patriots.

• 1:25:21Speaker 07

  Christian Gonzalez back.

• 1:25:22Speaker 04

  The Patriots do some bullshit right now.

• 1:25:24Speaker 00

  What are they doing?

• 1:25:24Speaker 04

  They pretty much listed their entire team on the injury report.

• 1:25:27Speaker 00

  Hmm.

• 1:25:28Speaker 04

  So you don't know.

• 1:25:28Speaker 07

  That's not, that's not like them.

• 1:25:31Speaker 00

  The Patriots, yeah. Six minutes of Glenn.

• 1:25:34Speaker 07

  Oh, my God.

• 1:25:38Speaker 04

  That's crazy. We went from having zero minutes of Glenn to six, 16 of Glenn.

• 1:25:44Speaker 00

  Let's go. Buckle up.

• 1:25:46Speaker 04

  Get some popcorn.

• 1:25:47Speaker 00

  Yeah, hell, yeah. Give me a snack.

• 1:25:51Speaker 06

  Welcome back to another What If Wednesday. I'm aware that it is Friday, but to be candid, you guys are lucky that you're getting a breakdown at all after all the abuse that I've been dealing with online. I was only able to watch the London games, not able to watch any of the one o'clock or the 4:00 p.m. games. Shout out to all the Glintlemen. I really appreciate each and every one of you, but to the Glynnames, you're on thin ice. You're penguins right now, okay? And I've got my eyes on you. I've tracked myself for tracking all of your IP addresses. My uncle is a lawyer and he is, uh, he's putting everything into a spreadsheet, so you'll be hearing from all of us very shortly. As soon as I get back from my famous cabin in remote northern Wisconsin, I plan on taking full action against you all. And that's a good reminder that if you haven't subscribed, please subscribe. No better time than now. I can really use it. One last administrative note, we do have the golf tournament coming up, so two spots available for that. If there's anybody out there you want to call in and say, hey, I'm calling Yan.

• 1:26:38Speaker 06

  Uh, it's the Glynnernet Glynnvotational, and you can sign up again, $500. You can make the check out to me. It will go to charity through, um, the various initiatives that we have. So, uh, again, really looking forward. Cool prizes. Always great to hang out with most of you guys. So, as I mentioned, was not able to dig into the daytime games on Sunday, but what I was able to see is kind of a, a new epidemic and it's sweeping across the NFL. I don't know what these coaches are doing, but it's making me scratch my dang head. Oh, no, Glenn, don't scratch my head. Clock mismanagement. It's strategy 101. No one's getting a passing grade. Let's kick it across the pond and start with the Jaguars and the Eagles when we dive into the teach tape. Take me to the all 22. At halftime, I don't know what Coach Sirianni said to them.

• 1:27:16Speaker 07

  That was your voice.

• 1:27:17Speaker 06

  They came out and they did what they do every single week, which is precisely dick. Nothing in the third quarter, absolutely trash football from the four, five Eagles, but they did make it close in the fourth. Eagles fight back and guess what? They take the lead and they're gonna win the game. There's only eight seconds left on the clock. Of course, they're gonna win the game. Folks, when I hear Eagles fan, eight seconds, I'm thinking Max Delente went back for another round at the buffet. Heck, he ate thirds and fourths, too. But what happened in this scenario was they kicked it deep, they kept it in bounds, and the Jaguars get a big return and he's still running. Oh, wait, you shouldn't let him run just a little bit more. You didn't let him still running quite enough, Nick Sirianni. It's so funny because this clock mismanagement was right in the shadows of the world's largest time beast, uh, the historic Big Ben.

• 1:28:02Speaker 06

  Big Ben's out of his boot. He's looking beautiful. And remember, Big Ben's not the name of the clock. It's actually the name of the bell. Oh, no, wait, that's Levion. We like to joke around a little bit on my page. Reminder that learning can be fun, too. Everybody comes to the tick, tick, tick on the watch, watch, watch. Nick Sirianni doesn't really understand how to manage the little hand. After all, he benched Kate Pickett. Okay, there's probably enough Eagles jokes. They won't suspect that's me, Max. Let's move on. Okay, let's kick it to the afternoon games. Um, I didn't really see much of the afternoon games, so we can kick it to the nighttime games. Even on Monday night, we saw Sean McVay go out there and absolutely poop his brain when it comes to figuring out how to use that clock as the real 12 man. And frankly, I'm okay with my McVay's not getting too obsessed with how timers work. Okay, guys, that does it for me.

• 1:28:47Speaker 06

  Thanks for stopping by on What If Wednesday. Hope you guys learned something.

• 1:28:52Speaker 00

  That's good.

• 1:28:52Speaker 06

  I'm just busting your balls. We do have one last segment. I know you guys wanted to hear this one. It's gonna be an unlock free bonus tier. Hit the free bonus song. This song, by the way, this is gonna be one of the songs that's on my upcoming album release. I think it's coming out around Black Friday. A collection of 22 second long songs called All 22.

• 1:29:10Speaker 06

  My name's Glenn. We're grinding tape. It's the all 22. Hey there, Drake. This my page. Got some concepts for you.

• 1:29:20Speaker 06

  Only rule the bonus content. There is to be no screenshotting, no screen recording. If I catch you screenshotting, you'll be kicked off of my page. I'm gonna say this is the type of content that only Glenn will give you. It is about to be a gut punch of truth. It's about to get real on my page. Let's talk about the end of the Washington Commanders game. If there are any kids around, now might be the time to turn this off. I will be uploading a youngsters friendly version of this for the Glynnor Garters program only seven and nine months. This was professional procrastination by the Washington Commanders. And if you follow this page, you know that Jim Daniels is technically the best quarterback in the NFL, according to many sabermetric value charts. Here's just a sampling of them that I've come up with and poured over. Uh, you'll see that he is locating the best parts of these graphs, top to the right, top to the right, top to the right.

• 1:30:07Speaker 06

  And since he entered the league, Jane Daniels has done nothing but be the best fourth quarter quarterback in the entire NFL over and over again. Let's kick it to Sunday. Take it straight to overtime, AKA the fifth quarter. All due respect to Jaden. 27-27 Commander's ball. The clock's winding down. Ain't that the clock's still running? You're, you're Kirk Cousins out there. You're saying, you spike that. Huh. It's easy to say on the TV copy, but if you're true Glynnaman, you practice good film discipline and you wait for the all 22 to come out. Because what have we learned from this all 22? Well, Jaden is not actually responsible for his own actions. You all jumped the gun and he wasn't even responsible for anything he was doing on the field at that point because he had been soft benched. What do I mean by that? Well, you better buckle up, Rickles.

• 1:30:52Speaker 00

  That's his cat.

• 1:30:52Speaker 06

  Seen it in Indy and it reared his head and our age is capital. I think Jaden was grounded. I think he was put on grounding. He was put on punishment on foul drive. He missed Antonio Williams on earlier throw into the ones, but it's still been running and he wasn't allowed to play ball anymore. At that moment, his mom said, that's, I've seen enough. No more ball. And I, I don't think that it helped that she failed to tell Jaden that she requested that the clock skip directly from six seconds to four seconds. That's something we always want to make sure to share with our young quarterbacks as we bring them along this league. That's something that we can grow from and we can learn from. Easy mistake to solve. And my theory behind this is that I think Jaden's mom knows ball. I really think that she's perhaps a, a Glynnette and she's able to understand the game in levels eight. You probably wouldn't get it, but I, I certainly do.

• 1:31:39Speaker 06

  So if she'd like to talk ball sometimes, I have an open door policy and we could sit down together and e- explore ball. So, uh, yeah, this has been Glenn. It is What If Wednesday and thank you guys for all tuning in. Sincerely appreciate each and every one of you. Oh, one more thing. Almost forgot. Let's do the list. Tennessee Titans. You still haven't won a game, Jack. Miami Dolphins. You still haven't won a game, Jack. Los Angeles Chargers. There's a reason they're not called the Win Angeles Chargers. You still haven't won a game, Jack. Welcome back to another What If Wednesday.

• 1:32:09Speaker 00

  Great job. This motherfucker. Great job.

• 1:32:11Speaker 02

  This guy sucks.

• 1:32:12Speaker 07

  That was a good one.

• 1:32:13Speaker 02

  Can we stop doing Glenn?

• 1:32:14Speaker 00

  I like.

• 1:32:14Speaker 02

  He's six minutes long.

• 1:32:15Speaker 00

  I like Jack.

• 1:32:16Speaker 02

  Six minutes long this, this week. Just like dog shit content that nobody likes.

• 1:32:21Speaker 00

  You still haven't won a game, Jack.

• 1:32:23Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:32:24Speaker 00

  All right. Thanks to Glenn.

• 1:32:27Speaker 02

  Felt personal. I still think that he's Max. There was like a little thing that where he, I think he accidentally said that he was Max in there.

• 1:32:33Speaker 00

  Yeah. Yeah. He said something about making fun of the Eagles, so they won't think it's me, Max.

• 1:32:37Speaker 02

  Yeah. The, the Patriots game. Um, Efton Chisholm, Hank, do you know anything about this Efton Chisholm guy?

• 1:32:45Speaker 07

  Yeah, he's a great receiver.

• 1:32:46Speaker 02

  I, I, I read some quotes about him, not only from the coaching staff this year, but from his, his college coach. And this guy said, this is the most classic Belichick guy ever. So his, his receiver coach this year said, he is literally the first person into the building every single day. He's usually there before 5:30 a.m. He like beats the coaches into work. And then his college coach said, uh, it's not every player I've coached, whether it's an O-line coach or as a head coach, I would have wanted to marry one of my daughters. Like definitely not everyone. There's a select few and he's one of those guys. That's who he is. That's the biggest standing ovation I can give a student athlete while they're here. I got two daughters and if they were to say Efton Chisholm is going to be my husband, I'm standing up and applauding.

• 1:33:28Speaker 07

  That's awesome.

• 1:33:29Speaker 02

  So it sounds like, sounds like a good guy.

• 1:33:33Speaker 07

  Yeah, sounds like the man. Great guy, great receiver.

• 1:33:36Speaker 00

  Patriots win by 14.

• 1:33:37Speaker 07

  Plus.

• 1:33:39Speaker 00

  Plus. You alternate spreading it?

• 1:33:42Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 1:33:44Speaker 00

  Okay, okay. By the way, uh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. All right. So memes, you'll be here. Glenn will be watching.

• 1:33:54Speaker 04

  And if the Jets win, massive surprise.

• 1:33:56Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 1:33:58Speaker 02

  Massive surprise.

• 1:33:58Speaker 04

  Massive surprise.

• 1:33:59Speaker 02

  You're doing the holes all at once.

• 1:34:01Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:34:02Speaker 02

  You're taking, you're, you're cashing in that bet.

• 1:34:03Speaker 00

  You've been taking hot yoga and you found a way to get all your hole, all his holes filled.

• 1:34:09Speaker 04

  Kinda.

• 1:34:10Speaker 00

  Okay. Okay.

• 1:34:11Speaker 02

  How bad of a loss would this be, Hank?

• 1:34:14Speaker 07

  Really bad.

• 1:34:15Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:34:15Speaker 07

  I've never had, put my holes on the line before.

• 1:34:17Speaker 00

  No.

• 1:34:19Speaker 00

  Those holes. Let me see. Just show us one. Oh, I didn't even think you were gonna do that. Oh, the belly button. I thought you were gonna open your mouth. Oh, ear.

• 1:34:31Speaker 02

  No.

• 1:34:31Speaker 00

  Oh, no, no, no, no, no. Okay. All right. Here we go. Saints Giants, Saints Giants, Giants plus one and a half, over under is 45 and a half. Jameis Winston, the full Jameis experience that we got in the second half last week. He said that his take on the Jameis Winston experience is that I am called to be the light of the world and the salt of the earth.

• 1:34:54Speaker 02

  Mm hmm.

• 1:34:55Speaker 00

  Agreed.

• 1:34:56Speaker 02

  Agreed. He also said that in the Bible, as it says that like one day shall be a thousand years and a thousand years, one day, he's trying to get 1% better every day, which I think by that math, he could also get like 365,000% better.

• 1:35:09Speaker 00

  Holy shit.

• 1:35:10Speaker 02

  Every day. I think that's how it works out. Um, yeah, Jada, enjoy the experience with Jameis.

• 1:35:16Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:35:16Speaker 02

  Enjoy it while it lasts. Uh, I would count this as a revenge game.

• 1:35:20Speaker 00

  For Jameis.

• 1:35:21Speaker 02

  For Jameis, for sure.

• 1:35:22Speaker 00

  Yeah. I don't, Saints might stink.

• 1:35:26Speaker 02

  Yeah, they might.

• 1:35:27Speaker 00

  This, this might be bad. I saw the owner, you never want to have the owner being like five games into the season, giving the, this is unacceptable, uh, speech.

• 1:35:37Speaker 02

  Like, like calling out the coaching staff.

• 1:35:40Speaker 00

  Yeah. Gail Benson said, I will not make excuses and I will not accept this level of performance as our standard. Kellam Moore and his coaches are responsible for preparing our players to perform. Mickey Loomis and our football staff are responsible for building a roster. So now she's just explaining the organizational chart. Our players are responsible for the preparation, execution. I am responsible for holding this organization accountable. So she's doing her job.

• 1:36:03Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:36:04Speaker 00

  By saying, hey, this sucks.

• 1:36:05Speaker 02

  I, I don't hate it.

• 1:36:06Speaker 00

  Yeah. Get, get in the mix.

• 1:36:08Speaker 02

  Win some football games.

• 1:36:09Speaker 00

  Win some football games, but I think it might be.

• 1:36:12Speaker 02

  They're favored.

• 1:36:13Speaker 00

  I know. It makes no sense. I think people just are low on the Giants.

• 1:36:19Speaker 02

  Yeah. I mean, we saw that last week. The Vegas has been very disrespectful to the New York Giants recently.

• 1:36:25Speaker 00

  They're disrespectful to Jameis.

• 1:36:26Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:36:27Speaker 00

  I'm just worried. I feel, I feel like the Giants pass rush is, is decent and the Saints offensive line is not. And shock is going to be, we're going to ladder shock.

• 1:36:35Speaker 02

  Was it the, was it the Cardinals game? Yeah. Was it? So the Cardinals were road favorites in New York.

• 1:36:40Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:36:41Speaker 02

  The, uh, commanders were like four and a half.

• 1:36:43Speaker 00

  Three and a half. Yeah.

• 1:36:44Speaker 02

  It moved, it moved up. It was four and a half, I think at kickoff, four and a half point favorites against the Giants. And now the Saints, I guess it's, they're minus one and a half and it's plus 100. Um, that's still, that's very disrespectful.

• 1:36:57Speaker 00

  No one likes the Giants.

• 1:36:57Speaker 02

  No.

• 1:36:58Speaker 00

  I like Jameis. It's basically our two guys. You might have to go dual ladder, Max.

• 1:37:03Speaker 02

  Oh, double ladder.

• 1:37:04Speaker 00

  Double ladder. That would be awesome. That'd be so much fun. No?

• 1:37:09Speaker 03

  Maybe.

• 1:37:12Speaker 02

  I'm going to go, I'm going to double.

• 1:37:13Speaker 00

  I'm a double ladder.

• 1:37:14Speaker 03

  It's a poopy game.

• 1:37:15Speaker 00

  I'm going to double ladder. If there's no rain, which there's been rain every single Sunday on, in MetLife, if there's no rain, I'm going to, I'm going to single ladder each and then I'm going to parlay ladder both. And that's how I lost everything.

• 1:37:29Speaker 02

  You could also do, there's usually like a, a combined passing yards, right?

• 1:37:33Speaker 00

  Yeah, sure.

• 1:37:34Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:37:34Speaker 00

  Do that too.

• 1:37:35Speaker 02

  Might have to rip that one.

• 1:37:36Speaker 00

  Do that too. All right. Uh, Max, Panthers and Eagles, Eagles minus one and a half, over under 40 and a half. You are going up against an, uh, a defeated trend. It's only four games, but a team coming back from England, playing a team off a bye is 0-4.

• 1:37:53Speaker 03

  Bullshit. That's bullshit. How do you, how does Roger Goodell's schedule a team not only getting a bye coming off of London, but you got, have to play another team coming off a bye? It makes no sense. Why, why are you getting that much of a disadvantage?

• 1:38:09Speaker 00

  Partially your fault.

• 1:38:10Speaker 03

  Why?

• 1:38:10Speaker 00

  Cause I'm pretty sure the teams coming back from international play are allowed to take their bye.

• 1:38:16Speaker 03

  I, but I get not wanting the buy this early in the, in the season, but why do you have to play a team that is coming off a buy?

• 1:38:23Speaker 00

  To fuck with you.

• 1:38:24Speaker 03

  I agree.

• 1:38:25Speaker 00

  Yeah, personally you.

• 1:38:26Speaker 02

  It's a, it's a fair complaint.

• 1:38:28Speaker 00

  No, it absolutely is.

• 1:38:29Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's bullshit.

• 1:38:31Speaker 00

  So are you nervous for that reason?

• 1:38:33Speaker 03

  No, I'm nervous because I thought everyone was going to be healthy and it, nobody's practicing yet. I was, I was ready to call this like the mega max lock of the millennium. If, but if, cause it sounded like everyone was coming back to start the week and now it's, now no one's practicing and no one's officially ruled out yet. But I need Devante Smith and Saquon Barkley to be playing. We have, Damian Pierce is, is not an NFL running back. He's just not. So if he's our RB1 going into this game, our run game is horrendous. We need Saquon back because even though the line is not good, Saquon is good enough that

• 1:39:16Speaker 03

  he can make positive plays, even with a bad offensive line. We need some playmakers on offense.

• 1:39:23Speaker 02

  Yeah. That's, that's valid. Um, can I ask you what's going on with the second quarter?

• 1:39:29Speaker 03

  You mean the third quarter?

• 1:39:30Speaker 02

  No, the, the second quarter. Like, why is it so good for the Eagles?

• 1:39:34Speaker 03

  Oh.

• 1:39:34Speaker 00

  Cause it's right before when they, they, they try to get in all the good plays right before they suck.

• 1:39:39Speaker 02

  Well, that's when Max's blood sugar dips before the halftime snack. So it's, you don't remember, but the second quarter is the good one. So it's first quarter, the Eagles are last in the league for points per game. Second quarter, they are second in the league in points per game. Third quarter, they are last in the league in points per game. Fourth quarter, they are second to last in the league in points per game. The second quarter is all you guys have. Why don't you just build the entire plane out of the second quarter?

• 1:40:07Speaker 03

  I didn't know these stats. Those are, that's interesting stats. I don't, I don't know what to tell you, but it does make sense because you have hope at halftime in every single, in every single game we've had this year, and then it just has gone to shit. And it's all because of your vibes are high going into half because the second quarter is so good.

• 1:40:24Speaker 02

  Mm hmm. Yep.

• 1:40:25Speaker 03

  I don't know what to tell you. Uh, I wish that we could do the second quarter plays for all four quarters. But I don't know, I still feel good about this game. Uh,

• 1:40:36Speaker 03

  I like Sirianni with his back against the wall and he has gotten the team in a good spot to compete the past two weeks, when it hasn't been easy with the amount of injuries that we've had. And now we're kind of in, like, I want to say it's must win, but it's like, you gotta win, cause then you play the Cowboys the week after. And if you win that game, then you're probably still right back in it with how bad the NFC East is right now. But the vibes would be a lot better if we could get a win at home this weekend.

• 1:41:05Speaker 02

  Use the word got it. Maybe it's a gotta win game.

• 1:41:08Speaker 03

  Yeah, I like a gotta win game. I like a gotta win game.

• 1:41:11Speaker 02

  Gotta win.

• 1:41:12Speaker 03

  It's gotta win. And then if you lose, it's Monday night football against the Cowboys, the must win of all, of all must-ness.

• 1:41:19Speaker 00

  Wow.

• 1:41:20Speaker 03

  Everyone's.

• 1:41:20Speaker 00

  Mega must.

• 1:41:21Speaker 03

  Mega must. If you lose the next two games, everyone's getting traded.

• 1:41:24Speaker 00

  Next week is the Cowboys?

• 1:41:26Speaker 03

  It's, yeah, Panthers this week, Cowboys next week.

• 1:41:29Speaker 00

  Can I say something? Jalen Coker being back is a problem for you. He's been really good when he's been out there. Bryce Young, by the way, 19 and nine against the spread. The Eagles defense is good, but the Panthers offense is also good.

• 1:41:42Speaker 03

  Yeah. Jag, Jag's offense was good too.

• 1:41:44Speaker 02

  Max, can I, um,

• 1:41:45Speaker 00

  What about that?

• 1:41:46Speaker 02

  Can I say something nice?

• 1:41:47Speaker 03

  And I'm saying going into last week, Jag's offense was really good.

• 1:41:50Speaker 00

  Yeah. I mean, also Liam Cohen did, he had beans for brains in the red zone.

• 1:41:57Speaker 03

  Yeah. You gotta, you get a couple more field goals. The offense was not like, as explosive as it has been.

• 1:42:03Speaker 00

  Okay, I like this.

• 1:42:03Speaker 03

  Defense has been good.

• 1:42:04Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:42:05Speaker 02

  I, I like this.

• 1:42:05Speaker 00

  Still got some fight.

• 1:42:06Speaker 02

  Pay compliment to Nick Sirianni. I, I think that Nick Sirianni did a very good job of, uh, of raising his hand and taking all the blame for what happened at the end of the game. I don't really think it was that much Nick Sirianni's fault. He could have prevented it. There, there were ways that maybe he could have stopped it from happening, but also you gotta make a tackle on kickoff.

• 1:42:28Speaker 03

  No, yeah, I have.

• 1:42:29Speaker 02

  Eight seconds left. It didn't work out. So I understand why, like, it's a bad choice because it actually ended up being the wrong decision in the moment. But as far as bad decisions go, I don't think it's like, this isn't egregious as we made it seem. It was, it was bad because it was a standalone game and everybody was watching it before the other game started. And the Eagles, like anytime you lose a game with eight seconds left, it sucks. It sucks. I don't know that you can put a hundred percent, there's, there's other stuff that you can blame Sirianni for that I think he's more responsible for than maybe the end of that game.

• 1:43:01Speaker 03

  Um, I think I will walk back the kicking decision a little bit, like that wasn't as egregious. You're emotional, it's an emotional loss. It's terrible to lose a game.

• 1:43:12Speaker 00

  Things get said.

• 1:43:13Speaker 03

  That I will walk that part back a little bit that, you know, you just as easily could have lost on like a sideline throw out of bounds. I personally would like to trust our defense that has been playing extremely well all day, rather than a kickoff team that was down four guys on the kickoff team because of injuries and had already taken one back earlier in the game when the defense was really, really good all, all game. I would have trusted that defense, but it's not as egregious as a decision as I thought on Sunday. I still think not running the ball and making sure the, the kick is, that is.

• 1:43:49Speaker 02

  That's the bad part of it. Yeah.

• 1:43:50Speaker 00

  Also, I, I, I will say like Jake Elliott, he was told what to do. I still think the way he kicked it was bad. He kicked a line drive. If he popped it up and tried to like, I, in a perfect world, if you're trying to run clock and not kick it out of bounds, you pop it up and have, you know, they, like, you just.

• 1:44:11Speaker 03

  But is that still the same with the kickoff rule? Like, that's what I don't.

• 1:44:14Speaker 00

  Yeah. It's, well, no, I, I, I think the returner would still return it. You would give him a little bit better of a field position, like bump, but I don't, I think it's harder to return a pop up.

• 1:44:25Speaker 00

  Like you give up a few yards, but it's harder to return a pop up than a line drive. Do you know what I'm saying?

• 1:44:30Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:44:31Speaker 03

  Yeah, I don't know.

• 1:44:32Speaker 00

  It was just such a, it was just like a one in a million shot.

• 1:44:34Speaker 02

  It is because like where he got tackled on the field also.

• 1:44:37Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:44:37Speaker 02

  It was the perfect. What are the odds? Like, obviously he could have scored a touchdown on the return. That would have been, that would have been bad. That would have been maybe worse. Um, but then for him to get tackled in that one spot that's close enough to kick a field goal. Um, and not far enough to let the clock run all the way down. That is like, that's a, a, a Goldilocks zone.

• 1:44:55Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:44:56Speaker 02

  That you did not see coming if you were Sirianni. So while he has made a lot of bad decisions and I, I personally, um, do not like him because he's won so much. I will say he is not totally at responsibility for that decision at the end of the game. And he did a good job of saying that he was.

• 1:45:11Speaker 03

  No, I, I agree with that. I agree with that. I was very mad on Sunday, very, very mad that we lost that game. And I still think that you.

• 1:45:20Speaker 00

  In your house.

• 1:45:21Speaker 03

  I didn't scream in my house. I don't know why you guys keep saying that. Um, and I'm still mad at that, the, that the field goal wasn't the last play of the game, but the decision to kick rather than kick it out of the end zone isn't as bad as I, I thought on Sunday. And I agree with you on that. I may have overreacted on that front a little bit.

• 1:45:39Speaker 00

  Listen, we all overreact. If we're, if, if we want to say what we overreacted on Sunday, I, listen, Tyson Pejman is technically an NFL quarterback. Okay? He's playing in the NFL. His job's to play quarterback in the NFL. I was wrong on that. We should maybe just start doing that on, on Friday. Be like, here's our corrections.

• 1:45:57Speaker 03

  I like that.

• 1:45:58Speaker 00

  Here's our emotional corrections.

• 1:46:00Speaker 03

  Sunday's an emotional day.

• 1:46:01Speaker 00

  It's a very emotional day. We say things that, that when, when we wake up on Monday, we're like, oh shit, I was pretty emotional.

• 1:46:09Speaker 03

  Good and bad too. Sometimes like you're like, we're going to win the Superbowl. This is the best team ever after a win, when maybe that's emotional as well.

• 1:46:17Speaker 02

  Mm hmm. What about, um, Damian Pierce? Would you like to correct? Is he an NFL running back?

• 1:46:22Speaker 03

  No, he, he is an NFL running back.

• 1:46:25Speaker 00

  Yeah, but not.

• 1:46:27Speaker 02

  This week he is. He's currently an NFL running back.

• 1:46:30Speaker 03

  Yeah, there was a couple of plays that I, I, I, again, I don't do film on losses, so I haven't done film in the past couple of weeks, but I did see a clip on, on X.com of someone being like, if Saquon's in this game, he probably has two touchdowns. Like that he just wasn't seeing.

• 1:46:46Speaker 00

  Someone said that, yeah.

• 1:46:48Speaker 02

  That's as good as watching film.

• 1:46:49Speaker 03

  Yeah, but I saw, no, they, they showed the clip. They showed the clips as well. So I watched those pieces of film.

• 1:46:56Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:46:57Speaker 02

  You can be an NFL player with non-NFL tendencies.

• 1:47:00Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:47:00Speaker 03

  Correct.

• 1:47:01Speaker 00

  Mm hmm. Okay. Uh, also something to watch. Uh, Jalen Hurts definitely is dealing with something with his leg because his rushing attempts are wildly down.

• 1:47:13Speaker 00

  And he was, remember.

• 1:47:14Speaker 03

  He's listed for a calf.

• 1:47:15Speaker 00

  Yeah. In London, he came out late with, he was on the, uh, on the bike. All right. Last early game Steelers at Bucks. Bucks plus two and a half over under 39 and a half.

• 1:47:27Speaker 00

  Zach, season's back on.

• 1:47:29Speaker 02

  You're back. We're so fresh off a win.

• 1:47:31Speaker 00

  It's been a while.

• 1:47:34Speaker 02

  That's so far in the past though.

• 1:47:36Speaker 00

  And?

• 1:47:37Speaker 02

  But now we're here. We're, I think we're back and I, and I don't think I'm going to regret saying that. I think I mean it.

• 1:47:42Speaker 00

  Okay. So you think you're going to win this game?

• 1:47:45Speaker 02

  Uh, I was more scared of the Cowboys game than this game. I think, and then the Cowboys game went well.

• 1:47:49Speaker 00

  Are you a little scared of the fact that like all the Buccaneers games, I've made this point last week, all the Buccaneers games specifically in Tampa, which, wait, is it Tampa or St. Pete?

• 1:48:03Speaker 02

  The Bucks play in Tampa, the Rays play.

• 1:48:05Speaker 00

  So people will be able to get there.

• 1:48:08Speaker 02

  Uh, it depends. If you've ever been there, I don't know. It depends on the weather because the sun hits both sides.

• 1:48:13Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:48:13Speaker 02

  But what if they have a baseball game at the same time? Uh. Probably be a bunch of people that go to the baseball.

• 1:48:18Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:48:18Speaker 02

  Uh, a- again, that's weather pending. Also traffic pending. I don't know if you guys have ever hit I-4 East. I-4 East is tough.

• 1:48:26Speaker 00

  No, I hope, I hope.

• 1:48:27Speaker 02

  I-4 West also tough. I heard you can get car locked on the bridge. That can't happen. And the, the bridge is also, it's a new bridge. The old one was a little bit worse. The new one not, still not as good, not, not really, it's safe, but doesn't feel safe. Uh. That's not good. Look, none of that matters though, on the field, because on the field, I think we're going to do great. And sometimes guys like to watch the game at home.

• 1:48:46Speaker 00

  But you know what I'm saying? Every single game, uh, that we've watched in Tampa this year has looked exactly the same.

• 1:48:52Speaker 02

  Yeah, not good.

• 1:48:53Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:48:53Speaker 02

  No, but hey, this is a red and breed and home opener.

• 1:48:57Speaker 00

  Mm hmm.

• 1:48:58Speaker 02

  So,

• 1:49:01Speaker 02

  something to think about.

• 1:49:02Speaker 00

  I don't know what to make of this game. I don't like Jalen Daniels.

• 1:49:06Speaker 02

  Sure. The offensive line hasn't been the best this season. I'm a little worried that the Steelers have some guys that do get home.

• 1:49:11Speaker 00

  Yeah. And, but your defense has been good. Uh, and the Steelers offense can be bottled up.

• 1:49:19Speaker 02

  They've looked better.

• 1:49:20Speaker 00

  I'm not going to bet this game. I have no idea what to make of this game.

• 1:49:23Speaker 02

  Well, I think this, is this the lowest under?

• 1:49:26Speaker 00

  It might be.

• 1:49:26Speaker 02

  On the board, I think it is. So nobody, nobody really has any confidence in either one of these two teams.

• 1:49:31Speaker 00

  39 and a half. Uh, do you guys, what do you guys think about Mike Tomlin saying he might be on the spectrum?

• 1:49:36Speaker 02

  Uh, yeah, I, I was speculating when I saw the Minecraft.

• 1:49:40Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:49:40Speaker 02

  That he, he might be into trains.

• 1:49:42Speaker 00

  Mm hmm. Yeah. So good for you, Mike Tomlin.

• 1:49:45Speaker 02

  Good job, Mike.

• 1:49:46Speaker 00

  Yeah. He's, he's having a real nice glow up.

• 1:49:49Speaker 02

  Yeah, Mike, I did not see this coming.

• 1:49:51Speaker 03

  Come on the pod, Mike.

• 1:49:52Speaker 00

  I kinda did just because of everyone being like, he's the greatest guy ever.

• 1:49:56Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:49:56Speaker 00

  Like you don't get greatest guy ever and best player coach ever without being a like gregarious. That's where the spectrum thing probably doesn't really work.

• 1:50:06Speaker 02

  Teams love him. I don't know.

• 1:50:07Speaker 00

  Come on the pod, dude.

• 1:50:08Speaker 02

  Sunday Night Football, NBC coming to town in two weeks.

• 1:50:11Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 1:50:12Speaker 02

  Pod, pod.

• 1:50:13Speaker 00

  Who do we have? Bucks? That's Bucks. Yeah. All right. Let's pod it up, Mike.

• 1:50:17Speaker 02

  I liked, uh, I liked Coach McCarthy's quote, um, because he gave his players a, a day of reflection. He canceled practice the Tuesday after the, uh, the Browns lost.

• 1:50:27Speaker 00

  Yeah, that was because it was bad. They had a, they had a lot of shit they had to clean up.

• 1:50:30Speaker 02

  Yeah, it was, it was, yeah. We need to clean our own house. Our house is not clean right now. And he blamed the mental conditioning. So I don't know what the Steelers have been doing mental conditioning wise.

• 1:50:39Speaker 00

  Is that like they have to do like the Sudoku?

• 1:50:41Speaker 02

  It might, that sounds actually like.

• 1:50:42Speaker 00

  The daily crossword on New York Times?

• 1:50:44Speaker 02

  I would delegate that to my quarterback. I feel like Aaron Rodgers would have a lot of good mental conditioning drills and techniques that he could put the team through.

• 1:50:51Speaker 00

  Do you think Mike McCarthy's playing this new game that, uh, by the way, great game, the guy released where you get to play call, real live situations? Do you think Mike McCarthy's playing it? And being like, shit.

• 1:51:02Speaker 02

  I think Mike McCarthy is the kind of guy that refers to anything that you can play a game on as a Nintendo.

• 1:51:07Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:51:07Speaker 02

  So he, you got your phone in your hand.

• 1:51:09Speaker 00

  Or your game boy.

• 1:51:10Speaker 02

  What Nintendo?

• 1:51:10Speaker 00

  Yeah. Is that your, is that your little game boy? What, what's the, can you, Max, now would be an appropriate time to pull it up.

• 1:51:19Speaker 03

  You guys, man.

• 1:51:20Speaker 00

  What? Why, why was that? Why is that wrong?

• 1:51:25Speaker 03

  All right.

• 1:51:29Speaker 02

  He's got to think. Don't think. You're not letting him think.

• 1:51:32Speaker 00

  Well, I mean, I, I brought it up. You don't even know what I'm talking about.

• 1:51:36Speaker 03

  Stupid game boy.

• 1:51:37Speaker 00

  He's froze. He's frozen right now because he wasn't listening.

• 1:51:40Speaker 02

  Let him, let him think. He has to think before he types.

• 1:51:45Speaker 03

  I got him.

• 1:51:47Speaker 00

  All right. This is called two minute NFL two, uh, min drill. And this guy created the game where you get to be the coach and, uh, simulate the situations. We're not going to actually play it right now. I just wanted to shout out. I didn't know the website.

• 1:52:04Speaker 03

  Thank God I pulled it up.

• 1:52:05Speaker 00

  Why didn't I, I wanted to shout out the guy who created it. It's fucking awesome game.

• 1:52:09Speaker 03

  What am I pulling it up for?

• 1:52:11Speaker 00

  Pass, go pass.

• 1:52:12Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:52:12Speaker 00

  Go pass. Go Luther Burton, Luther Burton.

• 1:52:15Speaker 03

  I already scored a touchdown and won this game.

• 1:52:17Speaker 00

  Yeah?

• 1:52:18Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:52:18Speaker 00

  Good, good for you.

• 1:52:19Speaker 02

  How much time you leaving on the clock?

• 1:52:20Speaker 00

  Oh, he's wide open.

• 1:52:21Speaker 03

  Zero.

• 1:52:21Speaker 00

  Oh, that's a bad pass.

• 1:52:22Speaker 03

  Last play of the game.

• 1:52:23Speaker 00

  That's a bad pass. Pick caught it. Touchdown. Go for two. It's 17, 10, uh, 17, now 17, 16 Rams. Go for two. No, no. Ah.

• 1:52:35Speaker 03

  Feel special.

• 1:52:36Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:52:40Speaker 00

  Oh, it's going to be bad.

• 1:52:41Speaker 03

  It's still. Oh, you gotta catch it, Caleb.

• 1:52:45Speaker 00

  Now you gotta go on side. Bears down 17, 6, 141 left.

• 1:52:52Speaker 00

  Did we get it? Ah, they were covered. All right. We're going to lose this one. Blitz. Oh, I just blitz every time. Do you guys blitz?

• 1:52:58Speaker 02

  I didn't know the defense was an option.

• 1:53:00Speaker 03

  Yeah, I never got to defense.

• 1:53:01Speaker 00

  Oh, really?

• 1:53:02Speaker 03

  I've only done it once. I scored a touchdown.

• 1:53:03Speaker 00

  Yeah. You haven't scored a touchdown fast enough, obviously.

• 1:53:06Speaker 03

  Yeah. No, yeah. Perfect. I want, I scored a touchdown.

• 1:53:09Speaker 00

  No timeouts?

• 1:53:09Speaker 03

  No time left on the clock. That's how you do it. You win the game. Don't give them another chance.

• 1:53:15Speaker 00

  Yeah, this game is awesome though. NFL two, the number two min drill.com. Shout out to the guy. Can you show me who, who created it? Oh, sack. Stop for a loss. I don't think we're getting the ball back. It's bad podcasting. Timeout.

• 1:53:31Speaker 02

  How many timeouts do you have?

• 1:53:32Speaker 00

  We have one left.

• 1:53:32Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:53:33Speaker 00

  All right. Blitz him. Last time blitz him.

• 1:53:39Speaker 00

  Oh, the blitz. Oh, Max, why'd you call blitz?

• 1:53:43Speaker 02

  Is that Kyron?

• 1:53:44Speaker 04

  That's good. He just scored.

• 1:53:46Speaker 02

  Yeah, good point.

• 1:53:47Speaker 00

  Yeah, true.

• 1:53:52Speaker 02

  All right, just deep ball.

• 1:53:54Speaker 00

  Yeah, just deep balls.

• 1:53:55Speaker 04

  Wait, how can we give up a timeout?

• 1:53:57Speaker 06

  Yeah, but now we got to score, go for two.

• 1:53:59Speaker 00

  Yeah, now you got to score, go for two. Cause you used a timeout. Yeah, but that's weird. We shouldn't have been, had to use.

• 1:54:03Speaker 02

  He should have gone down at the one.

• 1:54:05Speaker 00

  Should have gone down at the one.

• 1:54:06Speaker 02

  That was a terrible, terrible play by Kyron.

• 1:54:07Speaker 04

  Break it.

• 1:54:09Speaker 00

  Ah.

• 1:54:11Speaker 02

  All right, 46 yard line.

• 1:54:12Speaker 00

  Hank, are you enjoying this?

• 1:54:13Speaker 02

  Good return?

• 1:54:13Speaker 07

  No.

• 1:54:14Speaker 00

  Have you? Have you played this game yet?

• 1:54:19Speaker 02

  Bomb.

• 1:54:20Speaker 00

  Hank hates football.

• 1:54:22Speaker 02

  Bomb. Oh, oh.

• 1:54:23Speaker 00

  Oh, go.

• 1:54:24Speaker 04

  Go.

• 1:54:24Speaker 00

  Go. Uh, and it's the tour counts two, two minute drill zero. Tell this guy, awesome.

• 1:54:32Speaker 02

  Seven seconds.

• 1:54:33Speaker 00

  Every day it gives you a different.

• 1:54:35Speaker 04

  Get out of bounds.

• 1:54:35Speaker 02

  Three.

• 1:54:36Speaker 00

  Oh, damn it.

• 1:54:37Speaker 02

  Timeout.

• 1:54:38Speaker 00

  Timeout. You did a run?

• 1:54:41Speaker 04

  I, I, I, I was trying to just click something fast. I know it doesn't work that way.

• 1:54:46Speaker 02

  You're no longer allowed to make fun of the way that the command of Giants game ended.

• 1:54:49Speaker 04

  It's over.

• 1:54:51Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:54:51Speaker 00

  You called this one like Herm Edwards. Yikes. Yeah, then they give you a comp. Awesome game.

• 1:55:00Speaker 00

  Okay, let's do, uh, let's do Hank, Hank, was that the worst three minutes?

• 1:55:06Speaker 07

  No.

• 1:55:07Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:55:09Speaker 00

  It was bad, though.

• 1:55:10Speaker 02

  Sounds like you meant that, Hank.

• 1:55:12Speaker 07

  I mean, there's been worse, unfortunately.

• 1:55:13Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah. You should play this game. It's fun.

• 1:55:17Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 1:55:18Speaker 00

  No, okay, all right. He doesn't like us playing our little game, boy. Uh, all right, before we do the afternoon games, twisted tea, it's football season. We've, uh, never been more ready for game day. We're bringing twisted tea along for the ride all season long. Twisted tea is a refreshing hard iced tea made with real brewed tea and 5% alcohol. The twisted tea party pack has a little something for everyone. The, with the original half and half and raspberry and peach. It's got the refreshing taste, a little kick, no carbonation, goes down smooth, making it the perfect drink to help, uh, keep the good times going at the tailgate all day and all football season long. Whether you're tailgating at the stadium, crushing teas in your man cave, or grilling out with friends, twisted tea is there to turn your day up a notch and make a good time a great time. We love twisted tea. Have twisted tea while you're watching some football this Sunday.

• 1:56:04Speaker 00

  Maybe at the bar, maybe on Saturday at the bar, maybe on Sunday on your couch. So grab a refreshing twisted tea today and keep it twisted with twisted tea. All right, boys, we talked about it, but the afternoon slate is someone's got to show up. Cause the first one is Cardinals plus 12 and a half at the Rams. Hank, by the way, what's the hungry dog looking like?

• 1:56:24Speaker 07

  It's looking like the birds.

• 1:56:25Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:56:27Speaker 07

  It's looking like a game we're about to talk about.

• 1:56:29Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:56:31Speaker 00

  Raiders?

• 1:56:32Speaker 07

  Nope.

• 1:56:33Speaker 00

  Oh, you're going back to the Chargers?

• 1:56:36Speaker 07

  And the Browns.

• 1:56:37Speaker 00

  Ooh.

• 1:56:39Speaker 07

  I, I love the Chargers.

• 1:56:41Speaker 00

  You, all right. Let's just quickly go through Rams Cardinals. I think the Rams are going to kill them. I don't know why the Cardinals aren't starting Carson Beck. It feels like it's time to do it.

• 1:56:50Speaker 02

  Maybe they, maybe they start Jacoby Brissette and then they put Carson Beck in for the last three quarters.

• 1:56:55Speaker 00

  Well, you gotta bring Jacoby back in.

• 1:56:58Speaker 02

  That's right at the end.

• 1:56:59Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:56:59Speaker 02

  At the end.

• 1:56:59Speaker 00

  He's a sandwich quarterback.

• 1:57:01Speaker 02

  Yes. If you were to build an offense out of quarters, it would be Cardinals first, Eagles second quarter.

• 1:57:07Speaker 02

  I don't know who third quarter actually is, but fourth quarter, probably Bo Nix or the Cardinals again.

• 1:57:11Speaker 00

  It actually would be the Oreo offense, right? Jacoby's start, Carson back in the middle, Jacoby dead.

• 1:57:18Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:57:19Speaker 00

  That's an Oreo.

• 1:57:19Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:57:20Speaker 00

  It's perfect.

• 1:57:21Speaker 02

  Uh, the Rams this year, one of the reasons why they've lost more games than people expected so far is that they, uh, are committing a shitload of penalties.

• 1:57:30Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:57:31Speaker 02

  So last year, they averaged 33 penalty yards per game. This year, they average 73. They went from, um, the best in the league last year to the second to worst this year.

• 1:57:43Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:57:44Speaker 02

  Clean it up.

• 1:57:45Speaker 00

  Remember though, they have started slow, uh, the past couple of years. So they started, you know, uh, I think it was, so last year they started three and two and finished the season 12 and five. The year before they started one and four and started, it finished the season 10 and seven. Year before that, three and six, seven, uh, 10 and seven as well. So like, we always talk about the Bengals starting slow. The Rams have been a slow starting team. I expect them to start winning a lot of games. And I will say, uh, it felt like too much with Meeves. We, the Meeves files, the guy missed a couple of kicks and he's a little bit bigger. We didn't have to just throw out all, everything he's ever done.

• 1:58:26Speaker 02

  Pictures, yeah.

• 1:58:27Speaker 00

  Yeah. Yeah, come on. I, it was too much. I feel bad for Meeves.

• 1:58:32Speaker 02

  Um, I was looking at, uh, the stats for survivor leagues because the Chargers, or the Cardinals ruined everyone's survivor league week one, I think, right? Against the Chargers. They have the opportunity to, to put the stake in so many different survivor leagues where if you haven't picked the Rams yet, uh, you are picking the Rams right now.

• 1:58:52Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 1:58:52Speaker 02

  And it could, it could cost a lot of people a lot of money if, if they were to go out there, do it a second time.

• 1:58:57Speaker 00

  Yes, I am out of the, my survivor league. I fucked up very badly and took the Cowboys last week.

• 1:59:04Speaker 02

  Same. Should we, should the Cardinals have bought the seeker jugs machine for Marvin Harris?

• 1:59:10Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 1:59:11Speaker 02

  Is that where it all went wrong?

• 1:59:12Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 1:59:12Speaker 02

  I think so too. Get, get the man his jugs machine.

• 1:59:16Speaker 00

  Insane they didn't do that.

• 1:59:17Speaker 02

  Is that too much to ask?

• 1:59:18Speaker 07

  They should just have them.

• 1:59:19Speaker 00

  I, I don't, it's $50,000. You're an NFL team.

• 1:59:22Speaker 02

  Most college teams have it.

• 1:59:23Speaker 00

  I kinda want one here.

• 1:59:24Speaker 02

  I was thinking about, I, I said that I'd be willing to look into getting a jugs machine.

• 1:59:28Speaker 00

  Memes will judge us.

• 1:59:29Speaker 07

  Well, we have a jugs machine.

• 1:59:30Speaker 02

  But no, it's not a seeker.

• 1:59:30Speaker 07

  We never use it.

• 1:59:31Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:59:32Speaker 07

  But yeah, we should get the, the.

• 1:59:33Speaker 02

  A better one.

• 1:59:34Speaker 00

  More expensive. How memes gets mad at us.

• 1:59:35Speaker 02

  Use the one that we have because it's not the good one. If we had the good one, would use it.

• 1:59:39Speaker 07

  We're not receivers also.

• 1:59:41Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:59:42Speaker 02

  Yeah, you might be after the Patriots game.

• 1:59:44Speaker 00

  Thoughts? Ooh.

• 1:59:47Speaker 04

  Don't we have one?

• 1:59:48Speaker 00

  No, we have a jugs machine. We don't have a seeker machine.

• 1:59:50Speaker 04

  What's a seeker machine?

• 1:59:51Speaker 00

  It's the, it's the special machine. Remember we used it at LSU? You can, you could dial in anything, any like lefty, righty, what route you want to run, how the speed. It's the best machine. SMU, I don't know if SMU created it. SMU was the first team to use a seeker machine like four years ago. They basically dropped like four balls all year and other teams have looked into and been like, oh shit, we need one of these as well. Uh, we need the seeker machine.

• 2:00:23Speaker 00

  But we didn't want to, it's $50,000. So then if we said we're going to buy it, then you're going to judge us.

• 2:00:28Speaker 04

  Oh, it's only $50,000?

• 2:00:30Speaker 02

  Yeah. It would actually pay for itself.

• 2:00:34Speaker 00

  Yeah, we used this at LSU. That's the one we used. Where you remember you just were standing out there and it would, they would like punch something into a computer and then you'd get the ball.

• 2:00:43Speaker 02

  It would probably turn us into like a professional grade wide receiver because we saw what it did to Marvin Harrison when he didn't have it.

• 2:00:48Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:00:49Speaker 06

  LSU had it, Saints didn't have it.

• 2:00:52Speaker 00

  LSU had it, Saints didn't have it.

• 2:00:54Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 2:00:54Speaker 04

  LSU had everything.

• 2:00:56Speaker 02

  He might be a, he might be a seeker merchant.

• 2:01:01Speaker 02

  Any rate, we should get one.

• 2:01:03Speaker 00

  Okay. Uh, all right, Hank, you ready?

• 2:01:05Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:01:06Speaker 00

  Give us your case. Chargers plus eight and a half at the Chiefs.

• 2:01:08Speaker 07

  Mike McDaniel coaching for his job, uh, Justin Herbert coaching for his career.

• 2:01:12Speaker 00

  By the way, can we just stop right there? Because the report came out that Mike McDaniel might be fired if the offense doesn't get better and then Adam Gase would take over. That feels like a threat. That's a real threat. Like you guys think it's good, it's bad now? Wait till we get Adam.

• 2:01:27Speaker 07

  I also think Herbert probably is like, fuck, I can't, I can't deal with Adam Gase. Like we've got to win this game.

• 2:01:32Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 2:01:33Speaker 07

  I think they got nothing to lose. Chiefs, doesn't matter that they're coming off a bye.

• 2:01:38Speaker 00

  Andy Reid off a bye is like really, really good.

• 2:01:40Speaker 02

  13 and two straight up after a bye.

• 2:01:42Speaker 07

  Does matter, irrelevant stat, not, not related to this game whatsoever.

• 2:01:46Speaker 02

  Well, he is coming off a bye.

• 2:01:47Speaker 07

  This is the NFL. We talk about it all the time. The games that everyone expects are just going to be rollover wins are the ones that teams surprise you and win. The Chargers, they had this game circled at the start of the year as a big game for them. That hasn't changed.

• 2:02:05Speaker 02

  It hasn't, no.

• 2:02:06Speaker 07

  If they have a, if they want to, if they want to. Shades of winning the division, they need to win this game.

• 2:02:10Speaker 02

  Do you think they added circles every time they lost a game? It's like even the games that we didn't have circled before, now they get a circle.

• 2:02:15Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 2:02:16Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:02:17Speaker 07

  Yeah, they probably had like four or five circled to start the year. Now they have all of the rest of them.

• 2:02:22Speaker 02

  Every game is a circle game. Yeah. I would agree with that. I would be worried about Andy Reid off a bye, but it's not my bet.

• 2:02:29Speaker 00

  I'm done betting the Chargers. I can't do it anymore. I'm sorry, Hank. I've just gotten my guts ripped out every single week.

• 2:02:37Speaker 07

  So you're just going to give up?

• 2:02:38Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:02:39Speaker 07

  All right.

• 2:02:39Speaker 00

  I'm, I'm quitting.

• 2:02:41Speaker 02

  What have we seen?

• 2:02:42Speaker 07

  Giving up.

• 2:02:42Speaker 04

  I'll ride with you, Hank.

• 2:02:43Speaker 02

  In fact, I would say that with the Chargers.

• 2:02:44Speaker 00

  But he's saying money line.

• 2:02:46Speaker 04

  Yeah, me too. Cause he also, cause he, he got in the bird's hole. So now I want to get into this hole.

• 2:02:51Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 2:02:52Speaker 00

  Fine, you know what? I'll do it.

• 2:02:53Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 2:02:54Speaker 02

  I, I don't, I haven't seen anything out of him that, that gives me reason to think.

• 2:02:58Speaker 07

  What do you mean? They could have won like all of these games.

• 2:03:00Speaker 02

  But they don't because they, they fuck up.

• 2:03:04Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 2:03:05Speaker 02

  It's not like bad luck. The injuries, that is bad luck. I'll give them that. The injuries part, that is, that's unfortunate. That has nothing to do with what they do to prepare for the game, but they make a shitload of bad plays.

• 2:03:18Speaker 07

  What if Madison Beer and Taylor Swift are in the same box?

• 2:03:21Speaker 00

  Well, we do now have Jake Browning got, uh, signed to the Chargers. So now Jake Browning's.

• 2:03:28Speaker 07

  Box of the year.

• 2:03:29Speaker 00

  Wife or girlfriend with Madison Beer.

• 2:03:32Speaker 07

  Box of the year.

• 2:03:34Speaker 00

  Box of the year. What are you looking up, Max? Oh my God, there's, oh yeah, there we go. Chargers QB room. It's Madison Beer and Jake Browning.

• 2:03:43Speaker 02

  That's the horniest post I've ever seen memes.

• 2:03:45Speaker 00

  Yeah, you're horny guy.

• 2:03:46Speaker 04

  Simply an observation of two women happen to be married or engaged to the two others in the QB room.

• 2:03:55Speaker 00

  You probably, you probably, memes, you probably thought Shane Gillis's monologue was so funny.

• 2:04:00Speaker 04

  I watched it live.

• 2:04:01Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:04:02Speaker 04

  Didn't think, didn't think anything of it.

• 2:04:04Speaker 00

  Nope.

• 2:04:07Speaker 00

  I thought, I know we don't, don't need to get it. I thought we were done with this. I thought we were done policing comedy. I cannot believe we're still doing.

• 2:04:16Speaker 02

  As, as far as, as far as comedy goes to police, I think we can get offended by more significant stuff than that.

• 2:04:22Speaker 00

  I stand with Shane.

• 2:04:23Speaker 02

  There's gotta be something else out there besides women wear tight fitting clothes.

• 2:04:28Speaker 00

  Also, the rest of the monologue was a, Shane was, James being self deprecating and talking about how he looked like a egg, a, a gas station, hard boiled egg.

• 2:04:36Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:04:37Speaker 00

  I stand with Shane. Ridiculous. Like it's, it's actually shocking to me that we're doing the comedy police stuff again, but, uh, all right. So we're doing the, we're doing the Chargers. We're doing it.

• 2:04:50Speaker 02

  No, not gonna get.

• 2:04:52Speaker 00

  Ty Quan.

• 2:04:53Speaker 02

  They haven't won a game, Jack.

• 2:04:54Speaker 00

  Are they gonna get?

• 2:04:57Speaker 02

  The goose egg. You want to talk about guys that look like goose eggs at the gym? It's the Chargers. They haven't won anything.

• 2:05:01Speaker 00

  I don't want a game, Jack. Uh, are they gonna get Tyreek Hill? Is when it's, when would Ty Quan Thornton actually be back? Cause I actually think it is significant that he's out. Ty Quan Thornton.

• 2:05:11Speaker 02

  I don't know.

• 2:05:12Speaker 00

  Broke his leg, so.

• 2:05:13Speaker 02

  It's gonna be, my guess would be like eight weeks.

• 2:05:17Speaker 03

  They said playoffs.

• 2:05:18Speaker 00

  Oh, okay.

• 2:05:19Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:05:19Speaker 00

  He underwent surgery, was officially placed on injured reserve, forcing him out for an estimated 12 to 16 weeks.

• 2:05:24Speaker 02

  12 to 16 is, that's a long time.

• 2:05:26Speaker 00

  But that was our, that's the Chiefs' deep shot. They don't have one.

• 2:05:30Speaker 02

  And it, I don't know that they're gonna get Tyreek like we thought they were because he got some bad news.

• 2:05:35Speaker 00

  Why?

• 2:05:35Speaker 02

  Bad guy.

• 2:05:36Speaker 00

  What happened?

• 2:05:36Speaker 02

  Just some.

• 2:05:37Speaker 00

  No way.

• 2:05:37Speaker 02

  Some more stuff came out.

• 2:05:38Speaker 00

  Oh no.

• 2:05:39Speaker 02

  In one of his legal cases. Yeah.

• 2:05:41Speaker 00

  Oh God.

• 2:05:41Speaker 02

  Bad guy.

• 2:05:42Speaker 00

  I didn't, no idea that he could have been a bad guy.

• 2:05:44Speaker 02

  Bad guy. I didn't see this one coming.

• 2:05:45Speaker 00

  No, man. No one saw this one coming.

• 2:05:47Speaker 02

  So you got liable on two domestic violence charges. So the NFL is looking it over right now and I don't, I don't think Roger Goodell is in the mood. He's not in one of the moods to play around with him right now.

• 2:05:58Speaker 00

  Yeah. Well, if the Chiefs start losing games, maybe.

• 2:06:00Speaker 02

  That's, that's actually a valid point.

• 2:06:02Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:06:03Speaker 02

  If they lose this game, say the Broncos win, I could see Goodell being like, eh, boys will be boys.

• 2:06:09Speaker 00

  Yeah. Well, we gotta get him back. All right. Bills, Raiders, last game in the afternoon. Is the game I have circled of the Raiders have to show up because we could have some bad games in the afternoon. Raiders plus five and a half, over, under 53 and a half. Bills off a massive Monday night win, going back to the west coast ish.

• 2:06:29Speaker 02

  They're staying. I think they.

• 2:06:30Speaker 00

  Oh, they stayed?

• 2:06:31Speaker 02

  I think they stayed out.

• 2:06:31Speaker 00

  Okay, they stayed.

• 2:06:32Speaker 02

  I don't know if they stayed in Vegas. My guess is maybe not. Maybe they stayed in LA somewhere.

• 2:06:36Speaker 00

  That was smart. But, uh, Raiders, Kirk Cousins back indoors.

• 2:06:41Speaker 02

  Yep. Thank God.

• 2:06:42Speaker 00

  Thank God. It's getting cold out there.

• 2:06:45Speaker 02

  He's safe. We got eyes on him. He's not wandering around in the woods.

• 2:06:49Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:06:49Speaker 02

  The, cancel the, uh, the silver alert.

• 2:06:52Speaker 00

  Yeah. J- James Cook's gotta stop fumbling. I'm trying to think, I, I don't know what I'm gonna do in this game. I really don't.

• 2:06:59Speaker 02

  I mean, the, the Bills game plan is like Josh is gonna roast everyone.

• 2:07:03Speaker 00

  But I think he's not gonna do that every single week. Like he didn't do that against the Patriots. He did it against the Rams. Rams also have bad linebackers.

• 2:07:14Speaker 00

  I don't, I don't think it's sustainable for him to be like a maniac running the ball every single week.

• 2:07:18Speaker 02

  It's not. He has, uh, he's got 15 touchdowns this season.

• 2:07:21Speaker 00

  It's crazy.

• 2:07:22Speaker 02

  Which is nuts. Uh, I, I think that what we need to see out of the Raiders is for them to, for them to be able to beat a good team.

• 2:07:30Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:07:30Speaker 02

  Because the, I think I brought this up on Monday's show.

• 2:07:33Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:07:33Speaker 02

  But their three wins have come against teams with a combined one win between the three of them.

• 2:07:38Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:07:38Speaker 02

  So at some point, I, I think the Raiders are a nice story. I think that they're gonna be a, an average team, which is a massive compliment considering where they were last year. Uh, but if you wanna, if you wanna think that you might make the playoffs and have like a really entertaining late November, December, as a Raiders fan, this is gonna be a game that I think you'll have to win.

• 2:07:56Speaker 00

  They might not even have to win. There's gotta, they gotta, they gotta be close.

• 2:08:00Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:08:00Speaker 00

  Cause they do, the, the Chiefs, the closeness of the Chiefs game, I think counts as like a half a win for them.

• 2:08:05Speaker 02

  Yeah. Yeah. Morely. Yeah.

• 2:08:06Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:08:07Speaker 02

  It feels good.

• 2:08:08Speaker 00

  Uh, okay. Last one, Cowboys, Packers, Sunday night football. I'm just gonna take the over in this game. Packers minus one and a half, over, under 53 and a half.

• 2:08:18Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's all I got in this game. I hope that the Packers aren't good again, which I'm scared. I've, I've been very consistent that when people were burying him, I was like zombie Packers. Micah Parsons is gonna come back eventually. I don't know if Josh Jacobs is, but I'm, I'm, I'm always worried because the Packers always find a way to be decent and the Cowboys, great offense, terrible defense. Oh, they changed defensive coordinators?

• 2:08:40Speaker 02

  Well, that's what I was gonna ask about because, uh, Jerry Jones went on the radio and said that their defensive coordinator, Christian Parker, is going to move to the booth.

• 2:08:48Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:08:48Speaker 02

  And then Schottenheimer yesterday said, well, we haven't really decided that officially yet.

• 2:08:53Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 2:08:53Speaker 02

  It sounds like he did. It sounds like Jerry just.

• 2:08:55Speaker 00

  Jerry told you.

• 2:08:56Speaker 02

  Jerry just kinda finalized it, but I, has there been an update on that? Cause it's, it's Thursday morning and I haven't seen an update to that story. So I don't know if Christian Parker is gonna be, I, my guess is if Jerry said it, he's gonna be in the booth.

• 2:09:07Speaker 00

  Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, they gotta figure something out on defense. Cowboys, Christian Parker will be moving to the coaching booth on game days, according to Jerry Jones. So that's the first thing I, yeah.

• 2:09:18Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:09:18Speaker 00

  And Schottenheimer was like, I don't, we don't know.

• 2:09:20Speaker 02

  And he's like, well, we haven't, we haven't totally decided that yet.

• 2:09:22Speaker 00

  Yeah, you have. Yeah, you have.

• 2:09:25Speaker 02

  You have to.

• 2:09:26Speaker 00

  There's a good chance Christians on the field. Christian Parker's our defensive coordinator. All defensive decisions will go through him. This, none of these decisions have been finalized. That's Schottenheimer. Schottenheimer's gotta figure this out fast.

• 2:09:37Speaker 02

  This doesn't seem good for him. No.

• 2:09:39Speaker 00

  And figure it out, basically be like, dude, you're not the boss. Make sure you.

• 2:09:44Speaker 02

  And if you didn't know that this is the way it was gonna be when you decide to coach the Cowboys.

• 2:09:48Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:09:48Speaker 02

  I, then I question your decision-making process.

• 2:09:50Speaker 00

  Yep. Yep.

• 2:09:53Speaker 00

  I'm just excited to take the over.

• 2:09:55Speaker 02

  Yeah. You think the, uh, the Packers offensive line is gonna be better?

• 2:09:59Speaker 00

  Uh, yeah. I mean, they played well against the Bears and the, the Cowboys defense is worse than the Bears defense, which is shocking, but it is true.

• 2:10:07Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 2:10:08Speaker 00

  So, and I think that the Cowboys offense is way better than Tyson Bejat. So I think there's many points.

• 2:10:15Speaker 02

  There is, uh, this is a rematch of the Mason Crossbar game, also of the Hank game, the hole in the wall.

• 2:10:21Speaker 00

  Also the tie.

• 2:10:22Speaker 02

  Also, also the tie. Yeah. There's a lot of history.

• 2:10:24Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah.

• 2:10:25Speaker 02

  Between these two teams.

• 2:10:26Speaker 00

  Also Dez caught, caught it.

• 2:10:27Speaker 02

  Also the Dez caught it. Yeah.

• 2:10:28Speaker 00

  Yeah, there's a lot.

• 2:10:29Speaker 02

  Something's gonna happen with this game.

• 2:10:31Speaker 00

  Something is. They're gonna play, they're gonna play this game.

• 2:10:33Speaker 02

  They're gonna play it, but something, we're gonna remember this game.

• 2:10:36Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:10:36Speaker 02

  That's what I'm hoping. Did you see that, that Jerry also said on his radio hit that, uh, he kinda, he kinda took the, uh, the worker's side against Dak?

• 2:10:45Speaker 00

  Oh no.

• 2:10:46Speaker 02

  He said, I'm for our fans expressing themselves.

• 2:10:49Speaker 00

  He should be.

• 2:10:49Speaker 02

  Uh, yeah. He should be.

• 2:10:51Speaker 00

  Fans will be there forever.

• 2:10:52Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 2:10:53Speaker 00

  Dak's not gonna be the quarterback forever.

• 2:10:54Speaker 02

  And if I was Dak, I, I probably wouldn't be too happy about hearing that.

• 2:10:58Speaker 00

  Well, it just means that Jerry agrees. It was embarrassing.

• 2:11:01Speaker 02

  That's kinda how.

• 2:11:01Speaker 00

  I mean, it was embarrassing. He lost to the Bucks.

• 2:11:03Speaker 02

  It was embarrassing. That's kinda how this organization thrives. Chaos.

• 2:11:07Speaker 00

  Okay. Should we do our picks? Oh, do we, uh, did Jerry, Jerry O'Connell send the video? All right. We'll do Jerry O'Connell and then we'll do our picks and then we'll get to Mike Florio and talk a little more football.

• 2:11:19Speaker 03

  He sent two.

• 2:11:20Speaker 00

  Well.

• 2:11:20Speaker 03

  Second one's funnier.

• 2:11:21Speaker 00

  He only gets one minute.

• 2:11:22Speaker 02

  Yeah, one minute. Wait, this is.

• 2:11:24Speaker 00

  What do you mean? He sent two.

• 2:11:25Speaker 03

  He sent me, he sent me two.

• 2:11:26Speaker 04

  Send an updated one.

• 2:11:27Speaker 02

  Well, you have to pick which one.

• 2:11:29Speaker 03

  I know. I, I'm, I'm picking right now.

• 2:11:31Speaker 02

  Think.

• 2:11:32Speaker 03

  I'm thinking.

• 2:11:32Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 2:11:33Speaker 03

  I'm gonna send it to, I'm gonna send this to Glenn Tape Scout.

• 2:11:36Speaker 02

  Why?

• 2:11:37Speaker 00

  Why?

• 2:11:37Speaker 03

  Justin, I just need to get it on the computer and he was the first one that came up.

• 2:11:42Speaker 00

  Oh, he's gonna be so confused.

• 2:11:43Speaker 02

  You guys are.

• 2:11:44Speaker 00

  What the fuck?

• 2:11:45Speaker 02

  Wait, so you're sending it to yourself?

• 2:11:47Speaker 00

  Why is Jerry always like at some?

• 2:11:50Speaker 03

  He did a, something on CNN last night.

• 2:11:53Speaker 00

  He looks so good.

• 2:11:54Speaker 02

  That is.

• 2:11:55Speaker 00

  He definitely got some work done recently, right?

• 2:11:57Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 2:11:58Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:12:01Speaker 02

  He looks great.

• 2:12:04Speaker 02

  He's been doing yoga, Hank.

• 2:12:07Speaker 03

  All right. Ready?

• 2:12:07Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:12:09Speaker 02

  Look at this, guys. Our nation's capital. Union Station. Look how beautiful this is. Start the music memes. Start the music. We're gonna start PFT. And hopefully he'll beat Lefty Lockwood. Your backswing sucks. Bing bong. We're gonna start the Jags back to back in London. We know you love those London games, Hanky. Bing bong. Wake up, Hanky. Sleepy Hank. Yeah.

• 2:12:37Speaker 02

  We're gonna sit all the Eagles. Sorry, Max. We're sitting all of them. Uh, hey, speaking of birds, we're gonna sit that store that wouldn't sell, uh, Kelly Clarkson, that $15,000 bird. If some idiot wants to buy a $15,000 bird, let them buy it. Uh, we're gonna sit, uh, we're gonna, uh, how much time I got left? I got like 10 more seconds.

• 2:12:57Speaker 07

  This is the funnier one?

• 2:13:00Speaker 02

  Manage my time. Unlike Jaden in that game, he couldn't manage the time. Bing bong. You blew it. PFT. Start Jacoby. Start Woody Marks. Start Keith Mitchell. Chiefs defense. I did it one minute. Code 1-800-GAMBLER.

• 2:13:14Speaker 00

  Hank.

• 2:13:16Speaker 00

  Be nice to Jerry.

• 2:13:17Speaker 03

  Do you want to see the other one?

• 2:13:18Speaker 07

  No, no.

• 2:13:22Speaker 03

  Jerry really, he goes after Hank a lot.

• 2:13:24Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:13:25Speaker 03

  I've never noticed that until just now.

• 2:13:27Speaker 00

  And Hank's never said anything bad about him.

• 2:13:29Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:13:29Speaker 07

  I respond.

• 2:13:30Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:13:31Speaker 07

  You guys know me.

• 2:13:32Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:13:32Speaker 07

  I won't say a word. Till I'm touched, poked.

• 2:13:37Speaker 00

  Till Jerry touches you.

• 2:13:38Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 2:13:39Speaker 00

  Till Jerry's kids.

• 2:13:39Speaker 07

  Jerry's kids.

• 2:13:40Speaker 00

  And you've been touched.

• 2:13:41Speaker 07

  Touches me a lot.

• 2:13:42Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:13:43Speaker 07

  When I don't want to be.

• 2:13:44Speaker 00

  Yeah. No means no, Jerry.

• 2:13:46Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 2:13:46Speaker 00

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• 2:15:06Speaker 00

  What do we got?

• 2:15:07Speaker 03

  I lost last week.

• 2:15:08Speaker 00

  I did too.

• 2:15:09Speaker 07

  I did too.

• 2:15:10Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 2:15:10Speaker 03

  You three.

• 2:15:11Speaker 00

  All right. What do we got? What do you guys got?

• 2:15:15Speaker 00

  I'm gonna go Javante.

• 2:15:16Speaker 07

  Give me Josh Allen.

• 2:15:18Speaker 00

  Javante Williams.

• 2:15:20Speaker 07

  Josh Allen.

• 2:15:21Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 2:15:21Speaker 07

  Actually, it's too, too, too juicy enough.

• 2:15:25Speaker 00

  What do you mean?

• 2:15:25Speaker 07

  It's minus 170.

• 2:15:26Speaker 00

  That's what he means. He likes juicy.

• 2:15:28Speaker 07

  Yeah, plus signs.

• 2:15:29Speaker 00

  Juice. Like plus signs, don't you?

• 2:15:34Speaker 00

  See, there's the Bills Raiders. There, I'm gonna do something Chargers Chiefs. How about that?

• 2:15:39Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 2:15:40Speaker 07

  Give me Devante Adams.

• 2:15:42Speaker 00

  I'm gonna go with

• 2:15:46Speaker 00

  Jason, no, I'm Travis Kelsey.

• 2:15:48Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 2:15:51Speaker 03

  Jason would be juicy.

• 2:15:52Speaker 00

  That'd be very juicy.

• 2:15:57Speaker 00

  Go ahead, Hank.

• 2:15:58Speaker 07

  Devante Adams.

• 2:15:59Speaker 03

  Devante Adams, yeah.

• 2:15:59Speaker 00

  Devante Adams, okay. All right. So go bet it right now. Now let's do our picks. Uh, I gotta win. Zach, you and I are in last. Gotta make it shake. Let's fucking go.

• 2:16:09Speaker 03

  A lot of season left.

• 2:16:09Speaker 00

  Hank, you're up first, I believe.

• 2:16:11Speaker 07

  Chargers.

• 2:16:12Speaker 00

  Chargers plus eight and a half.

• 2:16:13Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 2:16:14Speaker 00

  Memes.

• 2:16:14Speaker 03

  Charge them if you got them. I will be taking, I'm gonna pull up, the Rams Cardinals over, which is 51 and a half. Gotta time up the Cardinals when they stop playing defense. I'll be taking the Ravens minus five and a half.

• 2:16:29Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 2:16:29Speaker 03

  I like, I like me, I like memes stat.

• 2:16:33Speaker 00

  What was the stat again?

• 2:16:34Speaker 03

  That every team loses after playing the Jets.

• 2:16:36Speaker 00

  Well, I mean, they could lose in some over.

• 2:16:38Speaker 03

  Yeah, still like five and a half. Still like five and a half. Sorry.

• 2:16:42Speaker 02

  I'm going to take the under.

• 2:16:43Speaker 00

  Whoa, whoa, Zach.

• 2:16:44Speaker 07

  Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa. Do it, Zach. Do it, Zach.

• 2:16:48Speaker 00

  That was right in your face.

• 2:16:50Speaker 07

  Do it, Zach.

• 2:16:50Speaker 03

  Five yards, five yards.

• 2:16:51Speaker 07

  Do it, Zach. Do it, Zach.

• 2:16:53Speaker 00

  Do it.

• 2:16:53Speaker 03

  I'm gonna do it. Jaguars minus two and a half.

• 2:16:55Speaker 07

  Ah.

• 2:16:57Speaker 07

  I'll take the under in the Eagles.

• 2:16:59Speaker 02

  Well, that was, I was gonna take the under in the Browns Ravens game. 42 and a half.

• 2:17:03Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 2:17:04Speaker 07

  Gross.

• 2:17:06Speaker 00

  I'll take the over in the Cowboys Packers game 53, and then I will take

• 2:17:16Speaker 00

  I'll take the Browns plus five and a half.

• 2:17:19Speaker 02

  Head to head, Max.

• 2:17:22Speaker 02

  I'm going to take the Washington Commanders plus seven and a half Monday Night Football. I'm going to take the over in the Ravens Browns game.

• 2:17:33Speaker 00

  Ooh.

• 2:17:35Speaker 03

  That's head, that's head to head with who? Someone took the under there?

• 2:17:38Speaker 02

  I took the under, yeah.

• 2:17:40Speaker 03

  Uh, I'm going to take the over in Bills Raiders. Over 53 now. What? Henry? Is that what you were gonna take?

• 2:17:49Speaker 02

  No, he's just making that face.

• 2:17:50Speaker 03

  Yeah, why are you making that face?

• 2:17:52Speaker 07

  I also was gonna take something in that game. But you're hot.

• 2:17:57Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 2:17:58Speaker 03

  Rams minus 12 and a half. I'm doubling up.

• 2:18:00Speaker 00

  Don't be scared, Hank. Just do it.

• 2:18:01Speaker 07

  All right, under. Bills Raiders.

• 2:18:03Speaker 00

  Okay. All right. Let's get to Mike Florio to talk some more football.

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• 2:19:47Speaker 00

  Okay, we now welcome on a very, very special guest. It is our dear friend, Mike Florio from Pro Football Talk, which, by the way, November 1st, 25 years?

• 2:20:00Speaker 05

  25 years. And anytime you get to that kind of occasion, it means one thing and only one thing. It means you are old. But yes, 25 years. We flipped the switch. It cost me $500 to set up the website and $50 a month, and the local company honored the quote of $50 a month until we left the server like five, six years later, and they were so happy that we finally left because it kept growing and growing and growing, and they never, they never raised the price, which was good because we didn't make any money for five or six years.

• 2:20:36Speaker 00

  That's incredible. 25 years in this business is, I mean, that's, that's genuinely incredible.

• 2:20:40Speaker 02

  On the internet, it's like 400 years.

• 2:20:42Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:20:42Speaker 02

  For a website to exist.

• 2:20:44Speaker 00

  Dog years.

• 2:20:44Speaker 05

  And I feel that old. I feel that old. It is amazing how much everything has changed, how we consume content, but we've survived and our traffic keeps going up year over year, and we, we keep doing what we do, and I'm gonna keep doing it until the horse dies under me and the horse throws me off, or I die on top of the horse. I guess those are the three possibilities.

• 2:21:04Speaker 00

  Horse fetish.

• 2:21:05Speaker 02

  I love it. Yeah. Um, is there, is there a time, I don't think we've ever asked you this, is there a moment in, in the first couple of years where it almost didn't make it?

• 2:21:14Speaker 05

  I quit for two days.

• 2:21:16Speaker 02

  Oh. I think I remember, yeah, yeah.

• 2:21:18Speaker 00

  Why?

• 2:21:20Speaker 05

  Well, because, look, I grew up a big Vikings fan, and that has been numbed and dulled to a certain extent over the past 25 years because you're covering all 32 teams, you're paying attention to all 32 teams. But when I first got started, I was still hopeful that Randy Moss's presence would cause them to finally get back to a Super Bowl and win it. And they got the shit kicked out of them on a Sunday night in Seattle in September of 2002. And the site was less than a year old at that point, and I decided after that game, screw this. This thing's never gonna be anything. It's never gonna grow. We're never gonna make any money. I'm just done. And so I didn't do anything with it at all the following day. That was a Monday, and by Tuesday,

• 2:22:03Speaker 05

  I was like, well, I kind of miss that. That's kind of fun. And I got back into it, and that was the only time. That was the only moment. And I still didn't know we were ever gonna make any money, and it was still multiple years before we ever made any money, but I just enjoyed it. It was a hobby that Didn't cost me any money other than the $50 a month. So yeah, I quit. I officially quit for 48 hours.

• 2:22:25Speaker 02

  It's very reliable. We've got some guys here that don't like to say much after their team loses either.

• 2:22:30Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:22:30Speaker 02

  It's, it's a pretty common thing. Yeah.

• 2:22:33Speaker 00

  He's not even here.

• 2:22:33Speaker 05

  But it's great now. It's great now. The life that I have now, there's no option. It used to be like back when you're truly a fan, I would go into a 48 hour media blackout. I wouldn't want to watch TV. I wouldn't want to look at the newspaper. I wanted nothing. I wanted nothing to do it. I remember after the Vikings lost in the 1998 NFC championship game. The next day I was getting gas and when I went into pay, I saw a copy of the USA Today and there was a little picture in the corner of Gary Anderson and I like averted my eyes. No, it wasn't Gary Anderson. It was Morton. Not the Anderson bastard that missed the field goal, the Anderson bastard that made the field goal. And I just like pretended it didn't happen. So you've got no choice when you're in the business. You gotta keep going.

• 2:23:13Speaker 00

  We were talking about it on this very episode that we just, we, we already taped our, our picks and preview how Sunday night, we're all in an emotional state and we say things and then I wake up on Monday, like I woke up on Monday this week. And there was just a quote card that just said Tyson Beijing isn't a, isn't an NFL quarterback. Big cat. And I was like, fuck, did I say that? That seems a little harsh.

• 2:23:36Speaker 05

  And it's like, I heard it. I heard it.

• 2:23:38Speaker 00

  He, I mean, he wasn't on Sunday. That's for sure. I think he's still, he could be a good backup, but he wasn't on Sunday.

• 2:23:45Speaker 05

  They loved him too. They gave him that contract $10 million, two years, and they've resisted any opportunities they would have had to trade him. And you get the feeling they thought he was as good as maybe some starters were, and he's a great insurance policy, but didn't go very well on Sunday. It may just be a glitch, may just be a glitch, maybe an aberration, but.

• 2:24:04Speaker 00

  I feel bad though. It was harsh. I, I, I root for Tyson. Yeah. I root for Tyson. I don't, and I saw it and I was like, shit, I did say that. That was probably too harsh. All right.

• 2:24:13Speaker 02

  I got one, one last thing real quick. Mike, can we break the news? We texted about it offline. I, and I'm super, super excited for the anniversary of, of profootballtalk.com. One of the ideas that you have. Can we just tease the people with that?

• 2:24:29Speaker 05

  Sure. Especially if it keeps you from writing a review that completely destroys it. But the last version of it did deserve to be destroyed. I have rewritten, start to finish, front to back, without even consulting the original copy. I have rewritten quarterback of the future.

• 2:24:46Speaker 00

  Whoa.

• 2:24:47Speaker 05

  2001 football time travel novel, and I'm going to post it one chapter per day, beginning on November 1 is my gift. To anyone out there who goes all the way back to 2001 and remembers it. And here's how it came to be. Let me tell you the story since you cracked the seal on this whole thing. My agent now, and I don't have an agent for any of the NBC broadcasting PFT stuff. I've got an agent who's helping me on the fiction side and he managed to sell one of my novels. It's going to come out next summer. Crooked Lane is publishing it. But he's plugged into the whole Hollywood scene too. And I've had a lot of meetings with a lot of production companies. I've got a short story that's in development with Platinum Dunes.

• 2:25:27Speaker 05

  And I had a meeting, it's been a year and a half, almost two years ago with Skydance, and we were going over all the things I had and somehow it just came up that I wrote this shitty time travel novel, and I started explaining the premise and the producer like sat forward and said, that sounds pretty good. So I took the original book, I turned it into a script that is still kind of floating out there in the ether. It's amazing. Anything gets made. It's amazing. Anything gets made. There are so many pending projects. There must be a million pending projects for everything that gets made. But then I decided earlier this year, you know what? The script is so much better than the original book. Let's do a book based on the script, based on the book.

• 2:26:09Speaker 05

  And so it's kind of come full circle, but this, I guarantee you, this is much better than the last time around.

• 2:26:15Speaker 02

  You're, you're underselling. I enjoyed the first book that you wrote. I, I enjoyed the quarterback of the future. I still have some questions about what happened with Lonnie. If you rewrote a chapter where maybe Lonnie had HIV and you decide that didn't fit in the end.

• 2:26:26Speaker 05

  Oh God. No, that didn't happen. Yeah.

• 2:26:29Speaker 02

  That was my theory.

• 2:26:30Speaker 05

  That didn't happen in the rewrite either.

• 2:26:31Speaker 02

  Okay. All right. All right. But I'm looking forward to reading it. Uh, so thank you. Thank you on behalf of the internet reading public.

• 2:26:37Speaker 05

  See, I can't tell whether you're being sarcastic.

• 2:26:39Speaker 00

  No, be serious.

• 2:26:40Speaker 05

  I don't care.

• 2:26:41Speaker 02

  Mike, I'm, I'm going to read every chapter. I promise you, I will.

• 2:26:45Speaker 05

  Okay. Sold. And it's free. Completely free. Complete. I'm serious. No strings attached, completely free. It's my gift to anybody who's ever come to PFT and who sufficiently cares enough to read it. It's going to be available. It's going to be free. I, I just don't care. It's just fun to create something other than the shit that I write every single day that just disappears into the ether by the next day. It's fun to write something that lasts a little bit longer.

• 2:27:08Speaker 00

  Yeah. Cool. All right. So Mike, let's talk some week six. Uh, what do you, what are you most looking, cause you know, we're right at the point where I think we're starting to get a feel for what teams are good, what teams are bad, uh, where the season's going to go. What are you most looking forward to? What game or storyline, uh, coming up on week six?

• 2:27:27Speaker 05

  Well, in past years, there's always been right around this time, what I call correction Sunday, where the narratives that we've baked in get flipped on their head. And could it be something as drastic as the Chargers beating the Chiefs, the Chiefs at 4-0, the Chargers at 0-5? I think it's only been three times since the merger that a team 4-0 or better has lost to a team 0-4 or worse. Could that happen in Kansas City? Could the Chiefs be a little flat? We know how great they've been historically under Andy Reid when they have a bye week, but you know, every time we think we've got it all figured out, we find out that we don't. So that's just one of those. We just assume the Chiefs are going to show up and roll the Chargers. The Chargers are never going to be any more desperate than they are on Sunday because their bye week comes next.

• 2:28:12Speaker 05

  And I assume somebody's getting fired. Somebody's getting fired if they lose, whether it's Mike McDaniel, whether it's all the way up to Jim Harbaugh. I don't know, but I assume somebody's out if they go 0-6 into the bye. When the expectation was they'd get back to the playoffs and actually win a postseason game this year.

• 2:28:28Speaker 00

  All right. So correction Sunday. I like that. Uh, it's usually, I, I call it the day that I lose all my money because it does happen. It's, it's.

• 2:28:36Speaker 05

  I thought that was any day ending in a Y.

• 2:28:38Speaker 00

  But it's, it, listen, it's clockwork. There's always like somewhere around week four to eight. It's like every single bet. And like, you know, it would be the public just loses. You know what I mean? The, the, the, the, the books win and the public loses. So if they do fire someone in their bye week, when are they going to start doing a little bit of a fire sale? I know Khalil Mack has been rumored. I want the Bears to, to trade for him, but are there other pieces that might be gone from the Chargers? If they're like, hey, this season is so far gone, we gotta try to get something back out of it.

• 2:29:08Speaker 05

  Well, they moved the trade deadline a couple of weeks ago from the Tuesday after week eight to the Tuesday after week nine. So that gives teams a little bit longer to assess, are we still alive? Do we have a chance? And a lot of times it comes down to the last couple of Sundays before the trade deadline. That a team that wins instead of loses all of a sudden isn't selling off assets. But I think if the Chargers fall to 0-6 and they have a two week runway until their next game, that's plenty of time to look around. And really any veteran who's in the last year of a contract like a Khalil Mack, that player becomes a candidate to be traded to another team. And really anybody else where they've just decided, hey, there's an opportunity to turn this player into future assets.

• 2:29:51Speaker 05

  And we don't view this person as somebody who's going to be around long haul that we're going to want to invest in. Maybe he's got another contract coming up, whatever the case may be. But it's an opportunity to look at everything. But the problem is if you create that sense that there's a fire sale, what happens? The offers that come in aren't any good. So you have to be very strategic and very careful about it. You have to act like you're not planting a fire sale sign in the front yard, but meantime it's an opportunity to to make yourself better in the future by moving on now from guys that you're otherwise going to see walk away in free agency. Or if there's a guy you think you're going to cut after this season, because you don't get compensatory draft picks for guys who you cut. If he's got a contract with a bloated salary the next year, we're going to cut him anyway.

• 2:30:33Speaker 05

  Let's get something for him now and let's move on. But why wouldn't you look at every guy on the roster if you're the LA Chargers, if they lose on Sunday?

• 2:30:40Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's fair. For, for the last year, maybe year and a half, we've seen a lot of GMs talking about the 2027 NFL draft as being the big one, being loaded with talent, to the point where we see a lot of teams, you know, preferring to deal 2028 picks whenever they can. Just under the assumption that 2027 is going to be a big draft year. Is that since still the same around the league or has it cooled off a little bit as this college football season's gone through, you know, the first, uh, month and a half?

• 2:31:06Speaker 05

  I know that's still out there, but that's just kind of fumes of the talk during the 2026 draft. We have seen time and again, how one football season will change everything. Nobody had Fernando Mendoza as the number one overall pick entering the 2025 season. So there's still a lot that needs to be determined. Draft picks are significant capital in any year. They are the easiest way to make your team better. Those players, because of the rookie wage scale that the NFL got in the 2011 CBA, it is the best way to build your team because you get the guy for four years, maybe five years if he's a first round pick. And relative to what veterans cost, it is so cheap. So I think teams are always, always leery about giving away draft picks and

• 2:31:49Speaker 05

  that makes teams that have assets that could help another team win now. You give up that asset, the team's willing to leverage some of its future and then you get a chance to make yourself better.

• 2:31:59Speaker 00

  Mike, is Josh Jacobs going to play this year?

• 2:32:05Speaker 05

  I thought that he was until the developments of the past 24 hours or so. There's a video that was shot by a camera that he has in his house, in his garage, that captured the altercation that happened on May 23rd that caused him to enter a no contest plea for battery. And the judge that presided over his criminal case has said that the information can be released. It's up to the police department to determine through a balancing of public interest and all these other factors. But now Josh Jacobs has filed a lawsuit seeking a court order that permanently restricts that evidence. And he's laid out some arguments that on the surface, it makes sense. You want to protect the identity of the victim, even if it's blurred, AI or superintelligence.

• 2:32:50Speaker 05

  I don't want to be regarded as an enemy of the people by not calling it by its new official name, but there could be ways to see who she is. And, and from his perspective, you see this shot of the inside of his house. You can maybe figure out his address and we've seen plenty of players' homes be burglarized in recent years when they're out of town. But it's hard not to think he's just trying to keep the NFL from seeing this thing.

• 2:33:12Speaker 00

  Right.

• 2:33:13Speaker 05

  Because he fears what the NFL is going to do. And if I'm the NFL, my position is, hey, man, you're not playing again until we see this because they don't want to have a repeat of the Ray Rice case. Where they let the guy come back, TMZ gets the video, all hell breaks loose and the commissioner almost has to resign over it. That's how bad it was in September of 2014. So if I'm the league, my position is, hey, man, you're not playing again until we see that video.

• 2:33:39Speaker 00

  So is he, if this video never sees the light of day, he's just not going to play again?

• 2:33:45Speaker 05

  Well, that's what I would tell him if I were the league. I don't know what the league is going to do. He may, and we don't know what the video shows, but look what happened. When we saw the video from the Ray Rice incident, he never played again.

• 2:33:55Speaker 00

  Right.

• 2:33:55Speaker 05

  And it's so different to know what happened and to see it.

• 2:33:59Speaker 00

  Right.

• 2:33:59Speaker 05

  Video changes everything. And once we saw that video, even though we knew that he knocked his then fiance unconscious in an elevator in Atlantic City, we knew it happened. But when you see it, it changes everything. And it could be that he knows from seeing that video, once they see it, he's just going to be done. That's the only reason why I could think of it. He'd be trying to keep the NFL from seeing it because the NFL has to see it. How could you not see it if you're the NFL?

• 2:34:24Speaker 00

  I agree.

• 2:34:25Speaker 05

  So I think that's, that's going to, that's going to keep this paid leave extended beyond week six for Josh Jacobs.

• 2:34:31Speaker 00

  What about Tyreek Hill? The, the, the ruling that just came through, was it two out of 10 charges he found liable for? Is that a similar circumstance where Goodell is not going to want him back in the league?

• 2:34:44Speaker 05

  Well, it's similar, but it's different because the personal conduct policy only kicks in when you've got a criminal violation. This is a civil finding by a jury, a much lower standard, preponderance of the evidence, not proof beyond a reasonable doubt. But the NFL is already investigating Tyreek Hill based upon allegations his ex-wife made a year, 15 months ago. And that's still out there. And now you have this civil verdict on top of it. And the NFL is going to want to figure out what, if anything, it will do by way of punishing Tyreek Hill. And you've got two incidents that a jury has found that he committed domestic battery. That could be if the NFL treats them as separate, that could be a baseline suspension of 12 games.

• 2:35:26Speaker 05

  So I know that his agent, Drew Rosenhouse, is trying to create this impression that he could be joining a team soon. I don't know who touches this guy because he may go straight to paid leave, just like Terryon Arnold did when the Seahawks signed him right before the start of the season. You get put on paid leave while the NFL figures all of this out. That's what could happen if someone signs him and he's not healthy. As this trial was happening, guys, I'm just thinking, it's hard to imagine Tyreek Hill coming back to the NFL anytime soon, no matter, all due respect to Drew Rosenhouse. It's hard to imagine a team signing him with all of these clouds out there and the question of whether or not he's healthy.

• 2:36:02Speaker 00

  So that question naturally lends itself to what are the Chiefs going to do? Because everyone was kind of penciling in, oh, well, they had an injury at wide receiver, no deep threat. Oh, well, just kind of maybe Tyreek Hill is going to come back. Do they have plans?

• 2:36:16Speaker 05

  They added Justin Watson recently to the practice squad during their bye week and they've been linked to Tyreek Hill for a long time. Back before Tyreek Hill suffered the knee injury that has put him out of the NFL for more than a year, the Chiefs were interested in trading for him. He was in his last year with the Dolphins. They were going to cut him after the season. It felt like they were going to trade him. And if he hadn't gotten injured, maybe they would have traded him to the Chiefs back then. So it makes sense for him to come back to the Chiefs. Mike Silver of The Athletic had an article 10 days ago with quotes from Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelsey, Chris Jones, they'd welcome him back. But you've got the PR hit from the civil jury finding of two counts of battery.

• 2:36:56Speaker 05

  You've got the uncertain status from the NFL's personal conduct policy, the possibility that the civil verdict would be enough to get the NFL to put him on paid leave while they figure all of this out. There's just too many questions. And if you're making this move, you need answers. You don't need something that is going to maybe help you out three months down the road or next season. You're looking for help right now.

• 2:37:17Speaker 00

  Hmm. Mike, I want to commend you for something. You were standing up for the little guy when it came to the fact that we couldn't watch the start of the 49ers Seahawks game, which that happened, we have eight TVs in our gambling cave and we were watching overtime, commanders, Giants. And we were like, where is the Seahawks Niners game? What's the fix for this? Why can't we watch every single game when it's on? I understand maybe you have to change the channel. I get that, but it's crazy to pay this money as consumers and not be able to watch every snap of NFL football.

• 2:37:54Speaker 05

  I don't remember this being an issue when DirecTV had the package, but I noticed two other times already this year. And I thought at the time, well, I should write something about that. I should say something about it, but it gets lost in all of the stuff that's going on on any given Sunday. But when it happened this past week, I noticed a lot of people complaining about it and I looked into it and on my DVR, because I've got Sunday Ticket and I have all the games on my DVR, I get the direct feed from NBC. So I don't have to use Sunday Ticket during the day. But I went back Monday morning before our show to watch 49ers Seahawks and I turned it on and there's 4:47 left in the first quarter. It's like, where's the, where's the rest of the game? So this is a very simple explanation.

• 2:38:37Speaker 05

  If you have access to the game in your local market, it's blacked out on Sunday Ticket. So 49ers Seahawks is blacked out on your Sunday Ticket because it's available on your Fox affiliate, but it wasn't available on your Fox affiliate, but it was still blacked out on Sunday Ticket. So you paid your $400 so you can watch all the games and you still can't watch 49ers Seahawks. And there are a lot of 49ers Seahawks fans who were pissed off that they weren't able to watch the first 10 minutes and 13 seconds of clock time in that game. Touchdowns, there were turnovers. Hell, you don't know what you're going to miss while you're stuck watching a game on your local affiliate that you didn't want to watch and you've paid the money to watch them all. And I sent the league an email Monday or Tuesday.

• 2:39:18Speaker 00

  That's why I love you, Mike. This is why I love you.

• 2:39:20Speaker 05

  Isn't that a fair question?

• 2:39:21Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:39:21Speaker 05

  Are you going to tell me about this? And here's how they deal with me. If it's something they're willing to answer, they'll answer it right away. If it's something they don't want to answer, they ignore me and they make me remember to ask again. And sometimes I remember and sometimes I don't. So far, I've forgotten to ask again.

• 2:39:38Speaker 00

  Send another email.

• 2:39:39Speaker 05

  This has got to be a simple thing for YouTube to do where you lift the blackout while the game is not available in your local market. And then somebody somewhere presses a button once Giants commanders ends and it's not available on DirecTV and it is available on your Fox affiliate. It should be that simple.

• 2:39:57Speaker 00

  Is there one guy at the NFL league offices who's just responsible for answering your emails? And does that guy have the worst job in the world?

• 2:40:05Speaker 05

  Yes. Yes.

• 2:40:06Speaker 00

  He's just, what Max? Max's got a question.

• 2:40:10Speaker 03

  I have a question. Yeah. Is there still someone doing the play by play of that game, even though it can't be seen anywhere?

• 2:40:17Speaker 05

  Oh, yeah. Because it's on, that's a great question, Max. It's on in San Francisco and it's on in Seattle.

• 2:40:22Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:40:23Speaker 05

  It is on there. The bonus coverage is only in the places that aren't getting the 49ers Seahawks game. Cause you know, they say all the time, 83% of all games are on free TV, which is misleading. 83% of all games are on free TV in the local market. And the home game and the road game for the local team is always on in the local market. So when 4:25 came around on Sunday or 1:25 Pacific, everybody in Seattle, everybody in San Francisco was seeing 49ers Seahawks on their Fox affiliate.

• 2:40:53Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:40:53Speaker 05

  Yeah. Good question, Max.

• 2:40:54Speaker 00

  So wait, do you know this person at the NFL league offices is just has to be, he's on the Florio case and he just, so that guy comes home from work every day and his wife's like, how was your day? It's like, oh, fucking Florio emailed me 17 times.

• 2:41:08Speaker 05

  Hey, when Paul Hicks was the head of communications at the NFL, they hired him 2011, 2012, something like that. I was talking to him within a year or so after he got the job. And he said, you know, for a while I thought your first name was fucking because all I ever heard was fucking Florio.

• 2:41:25Speaker 00

  I love it. I love it. You got to stay that way, Mike. All right. I got a gun to your head question. Gun to your head. Gun to your head. Mike Florio, who is calling Monday Night Football with Joe Buck next year?

• 2:41:38Speaker 05

  Who?

• 2:41:41Speaker 05

  Travis Kelsey.

• 2:41:42Speaker 00

  Whoa.

• 2:41:43Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 2:41:44Speaker 00

  Whoa.

• 2:41:45Speaker 02

  Didn't see that one coming, Mike.

• 2:41:46Speaker 00

  That's a good fan fiction from Mike.

• 2:41:49Speaker 05

  You asked me a question.

• 2:41:50Speaker 00

  I know. I love it. You like, you could have given us any name that would have been like, oh, that's boring. Travis Kelsey. That's interesting.

• 2:41:57Speaker 05

  Last year, last year, Travis Kelsey and Greg Olson were inquiring with Amazon about whether or not the Prime Video spot would be available this year and Kirk Herbstreet was still under contract. So Kelsey was looking at this last year. He's already got the relationship with Amazon with New Heights, but his brother's already got the relationship in place with ESPN and he's going to be the one. He's going to be the one they all want. And as it stands, CBS is going to be looking. ESPN is going to be looking and Prime Video did that extension with Herb Street, which basically has a clause that says, if we find anyone better, we can tear up your contract. So there could be a three-way bidding war for Travis Kelsey, and I think they're all going to want him. And I think he's going to be in a booth somewhere next year.

• 2:42:42Speaker 00

  A gun to your head again. Tony Romo has called his last NFL game.

• 2:42:48Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 2:42:48Speaker 02

  Wow.

• 2:42:49Speaker 00

  Oh, wow. Wow.

• 2:42:51Speaker 05

  What's he gonna do? Is he gonna go to Fox and be on the number five team?

• 2:42:54Speaker 00

  That's, I agree with that. I agree. I think he's gonna go studio. I think someone's gonna hire him in studio.

• 2:43:00Speaker 05

  He could do like a podcast or something. I don't know. He could go work for the Cowboys as quarterbacks coach. Jerry Jones loves him. He'll have a future somewhere, but how do you take a spot less than the one you had? And who is going to give him a spot that has the same profile as the one that he occupied? I don't see in this game of musical chairs that's going to have Troy Aikman, Greg Olson, Travis Kelsey, J.J. Watt, as CBS, ESPN and Prime Video look around. I don't see any of those networks, especially not CBS, obviously, but I don't see ESPN or Prime Video saying, we need to go get Tony Romo.

• 2:43:39Speaker 00

  That's fair. You got another gun?

• 2:43:41Speaker 02

  Mike, I got another gun on you.

• 2:43:42Speaker 00

  I didn't put my guns away.

• 2:43:43Speaker 05

  You just use the same gun.

• 2:43:44Speaker 02

  No, no, no, no. These are new guns.

• 2:43:46Speaker 00

  Shotgun. I got a shotgun.

• 2:43:47Speaker 02

  Put the camera on Max. Max has his guns on you too.

• 2:43:49Speaker 00

  So does, so, so, oh, look at that. Look at, Zach's got a couple pieces on you.

• 2:43:53Speaker 05

  Well, at least one's not being pointed at me.

• 2:43:55Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:43:56Speaker 02

  I'm throwing, I'm throwing one more name and you tell me if this is going to be involved in musical chairs in the next, we'll even call it two years. Sean McVay.

• 2:44:04Speaker 00

  Ooh.

• 2:44:05Speaker 05

  Sean McVay is a definite possibility. Sean McVay. I need to be careful what I say.

• 2:44:11Speaker 00

  No, no, no, you got a gun to your head. Of course you gotta be careful.

• 2:44:14Speaker 05

  I got a gun to my head.

• 2:44:15Speaker 00

  I'll fucking shoot.

• 2:44:18Speaker 05

  I believe that Prime Video very much wanted to hire Sean McVay after Super Bowl 56, and he decided to stay with the Rams for another year. I also believe that after that next year where things didn't go so well, and remember there was a lot of chatter, there was a lot of noise that maybe McVay was going to tap out. I think he may have called up Amazon and said, hey, is that job still open? And they're like, well, this is how contracts work, Sean. We have a contract in place with someone that we would have to buy out in order to hire you. So no, the spot's not open. So I think that based on that history, I think Prime Video would be very interested in Sean McVay,

• 2:44:59Speaker 05

  assuming that he would be their first choice. I mean, if they get Travis Kelsey, I think Travis Kelsey is going to be everyone's first choice, but I think McVay would quite possibly be in play, depending upon how the rest of this year goes. Now, as he's explained it on the record, he told us this at the owner meetings in Arizona. He, he has come to terms with the highs and the lows and the ups and the downs, and he just loves the process and he's not going to allow himself to get beaten down by a bad year. But when you look at a year like this where we're just ready to hand him the trophy in August, they're two and three. If this doesn't turn around, if for some reason they don't make the playoffs, which I think they got five winnable games coming up and they'll be seven and three going into the bye week and then into the Wednesday night before Thanksgiving game against the Packers,

• 2:45:44Speaker 05

  and they'll have a chance to do everything that they were expected to do. But if they make, if they fail to make a run at the playoffs, who knows? Who knows? And if Amazon shows up with 25 million a year or whatever they would offer him, who knows what he'll do?

• 2:45:57Speaker 00

  All right. Knife to your throat.

• 2:46:00Speaker 00

  Do the Vikings win the NFC North?

• 2:46:04Speaker 05

  I have no idea. I have no idea.

• 2:46:06Speaker 00

  Come on, Mike. Bam, I just slit your throat. Blood everywhere.

• 2:46:09Speaker 05

  You want to lay out the whole scenario, and I know this from the past 53 years of following the Vikings.

• 2:46:17Speaker 00

  Damn your old.

• 2:46:18Speaker 05

  They'll win, they'll win the NFC North. They'll be the number one seed in the NFC. They'll win in the divisional round, and then there'll be some screwy ass thing that happens that will cause them to lose in the NFC championship. That's how this is going to go. So Vikings fans everywhere, I think, can join me in this saying, I am ready to have my heart removed from my chest and shown to me again.

• 2:46:42Speaker 00

  Love it. I love it. Yeah, I mean, they're a good, they're a good team. The NFC North is tough. It's always tough. I mean, the last few years, it's every team's over 500 right now and you could make a case for each of them.

• 2:46:51Speaker 02

  If the Vikings finish in first place in that division, if they, if they get the one seed overall, if their defense finishes top of the league in every statistical category like it looks like they are right now, is there a world in which Brian Flores does not get hired in the off season because of the ongoing litigation that he has? Or will the NFL ask one team, hey, we, somebody has to hire this guy because we're going to get sued if, if none of us do?

• 2:47:16Speaker 05

  Well, I mean, they already have been sued along with six teams, and this thing has been lingering for four and a half years, mainly because the NFL spent all of that time trying to get the case out of the court system and into the NFL's preferred forum, which I call the secret rigged court of, wait, secret rigged kangaroo court of arbitration.

• 2:47:36Speaker 00

  We gotta get a better name for that.

• 2:47:37Speaker 02

  S.

• 2:47:38Speaker 05

  Secret.

• 2:47:38Speaker 02

  S R C K A.

• 2:47:40Speaker 05

  All right. Yeah. Anyway, we're still very early in the case and he hasn't been seriously considered for a head coaching job over the past couple of years. We went into this past off season thinking, there's no way he's not going to be seriously considered now. Look at what they did down the stretch. Look at what their defense did to the Lions. They beat the Lions on Christmas Day and killed their playoff hopes with Max Brosmer at quarterback. They completely shut down the Lions. They've cracked the code on how to defend Jared Goff. What Brian Flores is doing is incredible. It's unparalleled in the NFL right now. But, but we know how the NFL is. It's one company with 32 branches.

• 2:48:20Speaker 05

  When you sue one, you sue them all. The document that came out this week that was generated by Corn Fairy in one of the many Raiders coaching searches over the past few years, it just oozes with contempt for Brian Flores. I don't see Brian Flores getting a head coaching job in the NFL. It will stun me. They will be acting completely out of character if any of the 32 teams makes him its head coach. So I don't think it's going to happen while the case is pending. There's a chance it never happens. There's a chance that the settlement of his lawsuit, if he will ever take an offer from the NFL, he may say, no matter what you offer, I'm never going to take it. I want to take this to court and I want everyone to see what the evidence is and I want a jury to issue a finding in this case.

• 2:49:02Speaker 05

  But there could be a number that's so big, he, he agrees to never be a head coach in the NFL. We'll just see how it all plays out, but I, I think it's, it's unlikely at this point that he'll ever be an NFL head coach again, and I think it's very unlikely he'll be one while the case is still going forward.

• 2:49:17Speaker 02

  Okay. Super interesting. Um, can we talk about the Eagles a little bit? Because some news just broke today. Uh, we weren't able to cover it when we did the weekend preview because it happened before the news happened. Um, but, uh, Jalen Hurts, blood clot. It sounds like it's not super, I mean, it's always serious, but it sounds like it's not like life threatening at this moment. But he's going to be held out for a little bit and maybe put on blood thinners. So nobody really knows how long he's going to be out for. Um, what do the Eagles do in this circumstance? Do they bring back Andy Dalton?

• 2:49:49Speaker 05

  Well, Andy Dalton supposedly is looking at offers from multiple teams. They cut Andy Dalton in part because they're carrying Lane Johnson on the roster. And so they're going with a 52-man roster because they need to keep him on the team until June 2nd of 2027, or they'll have a cap charge in 2027 that will not be good, to say the least, as it relates to their efforts to balance the books. So they're already operating with a 52-man roster. They cut Dalton. Tanner McKee is going to have his first meaningful start. They'd like to bring Dalton back to back up Tanner McKee for Sunday, but it's a mess right now. And this whole Hurts thing, here's how I found out about it. They played in London last week

• 2:50:31Speaker 05

  and our show, PFT Live, is on Sky Sports, and we've got a surprisingly large following there. One of the viewers emailed me yesterday saying, hey, I got a friend who works at one of the hospitals here. Jalen Hurts was at the hospital over the weekend for a blood clot or something. And so I didn't think much of it because like, how in the hell do you ever track that one down? And then Jalen Hurts, when he was talking to the media yesterday, had this really strange comment about this calf injury that popped up on the injury report on Friday. He said it was a very unique experience. I don't really want to talk about it. And that's when we started scratching a little bit and the Eagles eventually issued that statement. And obviously he's out. They have to do something about it because the blood clots moved. But he played last week with that blood clot and they didn't tell anybody about it

• 2:51:14Speaker 05

  other than he fully participated in practice on Friday with a calf injury. They never said he was questionable over the weekend. And it just speaks to how much inside information is really out there and how little the people who are making their bets truly have about what's going on because the injury reporting requirements are so basic. They're so easy to comply with. And you know, one of these days, the people who are putting up their hard earned money are going to have a better snapshot of what's really happening before they make their decisions.

• 2:51:40Speaker 02

  The statement that they released did kind of scream of cover your ass. There were so many details that came out. It's like, why are you, why are you telling, what, what's the purpose of this? Like information overload. So I don't know what, what story they were trying to get ahead of. Sounds like you were sniffing around.

• 2:51:55Speaker 05

  I was sniffing around. I mean, you know, I don't waste my time on things that I don't think are a story, but if something comes along and I think this just seems weird and the way that Jalen Hurts talked about the calf injury last night made me say, there's something weird about this. There's more to this story. And they say in their statement, guys, that they were in contact with the league the whole time. Don't you at some point change his status for the game to questionable?

• 2:52:16Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:52:17Speaker 05

  Because wasn't it, wasn't it at some point, less than 100% chance, less than a certainty that he's going to play on Sunday? He's got a blood clot in his leg for crying out loud. So they, they are covering their ass and they're kind of blaming the league because they would say now, well, the league didn't tell us that we needed to make him questionable, but he clearly should have been. And I don't know how much money we're talking about. I don't know how many people it affects, but you know, if you're putting down money on a prop bet, over under on his rushing yards, whatever the case, maybe you'd just like to have that information before you make your decisions.

• 2:52:48Speaker 00

  All right, Mike, I got one last question, then we have Zach having a question. So your, your co-host, Chris Sims, uh, who he's, Chris Sims is a football nut. I respect his opinion on, on football knowledge. He watches the tape. What's the, what's the take that Chris Sims is, is working on right now that has the internet most mad at him? Cause I like, cause usually he, he comes out ahead a lot on those, but he sees it before other people. So is there a quarterback that's not playing up to level or a team that he's like looking at? What, what's the one that he's got going right now?

• 2:53:21Speaker 05

  I'm not aware of any right now that has a fan base completely and totally up in arms. The Eagles fan base for multiple years was out to get Chris Sims because he's been saying that maybe Jalen Hurts isn't as good as people think he is. And maybe he's not what the Eagles need long-term. He's not running the offense the way the offense needs to be implemented. We had a game in Philadelphia at some point within the past couple of years, and there were a couple of yahoos that were heckling him. And I think they got, they got tossed when we walked out onto the field. So he's gotten it hard from the Eagles fans over the years, but some of the Eagles fans, a lot of the Eagles fans have been coming around more recently. I'm not aware of anything right now though, that's got everybody fired up. I try to ignore all that stuff. Life's a hell of a lot easier.

• 2:54:01Speaker 00

  I agree.

• 2:54:02Speaker 05

  When you just head down and you keep going forward. There's always going to be something that people are upset about.

• 2:54:06Speaker 00

  That's facts.

• 2:54:06Speaker 05

  But isn't that why we're here?

• 2:54:07Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:54:08Speaker 05

  I told my wife, back when we had the comments section that contributed to the, to the birth of my internet son, she said, she said, have, have you looked at the stuff that people say about you on here? And I said, don't, don't read that.

• 2:54:24Speaker 00

  Can't read them.

• 2:54:24Speaker 05

  Don't read it. Same passion that gets them to say those things is the passion that gets them to come to the website.

• 2:54:33Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 2:54:34Speaker 05

  It's why they love football and people are passionate about their teams and they get upset and they, I'd rather they let me hear it there than see me walking through the airport and hit me with a sock full of pennies.

• 2:54:46Speaker 00

  Oh damn.

• 2:54:47Speaker 02

  That'd be funny though.

• 2:54:48Speaker 05

  It hasn't happened yet.

• 2:54:49Speaker 02

  You get one of those through security. You, you deserve to use it. Yeah.

• 2:54:53Speaker 00

  You're right. You're right. No, we, we, the, don't read the comments. It's a struggle, but it's the, it's the best way to live if you're in this, uh, job. All right. Roback question, rhoback.com promo code take 20% off your first purchase. Qzips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, roback.com promo code take. Zach, hit Mike with your last question.

• 2:55:12Speaker 02

  I did have a quick question, sir. Uh, are there any teams currently pulling the wool over our eyes? Like, do you have any teams on your going to get exposed soon list?

• 2:55:20Speaker 00

  Oh, good question.

• 2:55:22Speaker 05

  Yeah, that is a great question. Usually when somebody says that's a great question, it means I'm just trying to buy some time.

• 2:55:27Speaker 00

  No, no, no.

• 2:55:29Speaker 02

  On the contrary, they, they mean it.

• 2:55:30Speaker 00

  No, that's why we repeat it. Good question. Great question.

• 2:55:33Speaker 05

  Well, no, but I'm saying it's a great question for that purpose. I, I'm still skeptical.

• 2:55:38Speaker 02

  You didn't have to say that.

• 2:55:40Speaker 05

  I still am skeptical.

• 2:55:41Speaker 00

  No, you can't pick the Vikings.

• 2:55:42Speaker 02

  Yeah. And also you didn't have to tell Zach that it wasn't a good question. You're just, you're.

• 2:55:46Speaker 05

  Well, it was a good question, but it also had a dual purpose. It was a very good question because it caused me to need time.

• 2:55:51Speaker 00

  Right.

• 2:55:52Speaker 05

  And so I said, it's a good question. So it would give me time.

• 2:55:54Speaker 00

  Good point.

• 2:55:54Speaker 05

  Do we really think the 49ers can sustain this with all the injuries they have? It's, it's amazing. When you think about all the stuff they have gone through, they're dealing with the urban legend with the substation, which even if there's nothing to it, it's rattling around in the brains of their players and you don't want that in there. You don't want guys thinking that they're going to be more susceptible to injury because of this giant electrical substation that's right next to their practice field. And then Kyle Shanahan gets in the car accident just days before the start of training camp and he's not around for some of the most formative sessions and meetings of the season that lays the foundation for the whole year. And then the owner has a misadventure in a trailer park in East Palestine, Ohio, and then the injuries are happening left and right and over and over again. And

• 2:56:36Speaker 05

  they're five and O and they look great. It really is amazing. What they did to the, to the Seahawks on Sunday was impressive, but you know, the Seahawks, I mean, you take away the turnovers and the Seahawks win that game by multiple scores, but the 49ers went in there and they beat the Seattle Seahawks and they're five and O and the Seahawks are two games behind and the Rams are three games behind. And who would have dreamed that that would be the case? But you just feel like there's going to be a critical mass of injuries that it's going to be very hard for them to recover from. And I don't, I never want to be accused of putting a malocchio on anyone, but when you look at how much Brock Purdy and Christian McCaffrey mean to that team, if you're missing either guy, you're going to have a problem in, in San Francisco.

• 2:57:13Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:57:13Speaker 02

  Okay. All right. Um, there was one other thing that, that Big Cat and I talked about earlier in the show, and it's the Titans and what the situation like there, how it's unfolding. Uh, because it doesn't, it doesn't feel like Cam Ward is going to be the future of that team. And the way things are going, it's a lot of bad vibes. Is there any chance that it's going to be a one and done situation for that new coaching staff? Or are they committed? It might look bad this year, even if you don't get results out of the quarterback that you said you wanted to, to build around. If that doesn't work out, is there any chance that they just pull the plug after one year?

• 2:57:46Speaker 05

  Well, I remember when the Browns fired Rob Shadzinski after one year. My first reaction was, well, how can you fire a guy after one year? And somebody from the Browns reached out and gave me a list of all the guys who have been fired after one year, dating back to Ray Rhodes after one year in the nineties. So it happens far more often than we realize. And I think everything's on the table in Tennessee. The problem in Tennessee is identical to the problem with the other dysfunctional teams. And Big Cat, as you taught me years ago, dysfunctional teams do dysfunctional things. I still try to give you credit for that.

• 2:58:17Speaker 00

  Over and over.

• 2:58:18Speaker 05

  Whenever I use.

• 2:58:19Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 2:58:19Speaker 05

  But there are, I mean, we know the teams that fall into that bucket and look at what Tennessee has been. It's this weird power struggle that is constantly going on. And the owner, Amy Adams Strunk, she'll have whoever it is that she gives the power to. And then a year later, that person's gone and somebody else has the power and the influence. And then a year later, it's someone else. It's like Game of Thrones meets the Isle of Misfit Toys and they just can never develop any real continuity, any consistency. They got a new stadium coming. They just fired a bunch of executives, including the person that redesigned their uniforms and their new uniforms actually look pretty good. It's just this odd situation. And one of the things I love and hate about the NFL, these businesses

• 2:59:04Speaker 05

  are worth 10, 12, $15 billion each. They're operated like a family-owned food truck for crying out loud. It's a mom and pop situation. And a lot of times you get these ownership groups, there's no test you have to take. You gotta take two tests to get a driver's license. Zero tests to own an NFL team. You either show up with the most money on the teams for sale, or you're the person who's named in the will. And there's no other requirement to know how to run a business. And for a lot of these bad teams, and it's not just the Titans, it's the Browns under Jimmy Haslam, it's the Cardinals, it's the Dolphins to a certain extent, although Steven Ross has taken a step back and maybe things will get better one of these days. But ownership, bad ownership, the Jets with Woody Johnson, bad ownership infects everything. And I think that's the problem in Tennessee.

• 2:59:47Speaker 00

  Yeah. All right, Mike, you're the best. Congrats on 25 years. Thank you.

• 2:59:52Speaker 05

  I haven't made it yet. I still got two more weeks.

• 2:59:54Speaker 02

  You got this.

• 2:59:55Speaker 00

  You got this.

• 2:59:55Speaker 02

  Do that stand on your head.

• 2:59:56Speaker 00

  Yeah. Just as long as no one shows up with the pennies.

• 3:00:00Speaker 05

  Or the NFL doesn't, you know, the NFL, one of these days, the NFL is going to realize it would have been a hell of a lot easier for us if we just would have killed this guy 20 years ago.

• 3:00:09Speaker 00

  It's like a CIA conspiracy.

• 3:00:11Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 3:00:11Speaker 00

  Yeah. All right. Well, we'll, we'll, we'll investigate it if that happens.

• 3:00:15Speaker 02

  I'll avenge, I'll avenge your death. I promise that.

• 3:00:17Speaker 05

  Will you come to my funeral?

• 3:00:19Speaker 00

  Yeah, I'll be there.

• 3:00:20Speaker 05

  Would you come to my funeral?

• 3:00:21Speaker 02

  I would, yeah. I would go to your funeral. I would also, I would avenge your death.

• 3:00:24Speaker 05

  Okay, good.

• 3:00:25Speaker 02

  If I'm in the will, I'll go to the funeral.

• 3:00:26Speaker 00

  As long as it's not on like a Monday, Thursday, Wednesday, Sunday, Saturday.

• 3:00:32Speaker 02

  You do the show live from the funeral.

• 3:00:34Speaker 05

  You can do the show from the cast.

• 3:00:35Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 3:00:36Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 3:00:36Speaker 00

  We get it. I'd climb in there with you.

• 3:00:38Speaker 02

  For the last time.

• 3:00:40Speaker 00

  Mike Floria. All right, Mike. Thanks. You're the best.

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• 3:02:15Speaker 00

  Okay, Fyre Fest time. Henry.

• 3:02:18Speaker 07

  Uh, nothing crazy. Two minor ones. The first one is just in, in the last week, four days, my phone is just, it dies at a rapid rate now.

• 3:02:28Speaker 00

  Well, it's time to get a new one.

• 3:02:29Speaker 07

  It's that is one of those conspiracies where I'm like, eh, maybe not. It's completely true.

• 3:02:35Speaker 07

  Shocking little amount of time and then it's like your phone's about to die. And then it like, it has the, it slows down when you're below 20%.

• 3:02:43Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah.

• 3:02:44Speaker 07

  Like I'd rather just work full speed and die than like, give me the glitchy, slow, like everything takes an extra second. Like it's, it's annoying. It's annoying.

• 3:02:53Speaker 00

  When a new one comes out, the next software update, it throttles the battery on the old ones.

• 3:02:56Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 3:02:57Speaker 00

  And so then you have to get it. By the way, ordering the, uh, the fold phone today.

• 3:03:01Speaker 07

  Nice.

• 3:03:02Speaker 00

  Like that memes?

• 3:03:05Speaker 03

  That's very cool.

• 3:03:06Speaker 00

  Yeah. It's probably going to suck. It's probably going to break like immediately.

• 3:03:10Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 3:03:11Speaker 00

  So your phone's just been dead? It's, it happens every year.

• 3:03:14Speaker 07

  I never, like, usually if I, if I, you know, I got a full charge, I charge in my car and then I don't have to think about it. And now it's like, um, you know, I've, we've been at the office for like five hours. I'm on like 10%.

• 3:03:25Speaker 00

  Yeah. That's just what they do. And it's like, the apps are slow.

• 3:03:31Speaker 00

  Can I, can I say something that's, that makes me seem, go ahead, memes, go, go.

• 3:03:35Speaker 03

  In the new updates, they make the, the update like 25 to 30 gigs. So you also, it also kills your storage.

• 3:03:43Speaker 00

  Ooh.

• 3:03:45Speaker 03

  So that also makes you want to go buy a new one.

• 3:03:47Speaker 00

  Yeah. Can I say something that will make me seem really old, but I, I just, it's been bothering me and I need to just say it. I, like most of you, probably I have just a shit, too many apps. You know what I mean? There's too many apps. Download apps, download games, whatever. Um, I don't know where my, any of my apps are. Whenever I need to, to use an app, I go to the store and search it.

• 3:04:14Speaker 03

  The store?

• 3:04:15Speaker 07

  Dude, you can just, you can just scroll left.

• 3:04:17Speaker 00

  I said I was going to be old.

• 3:04:19Speaker 02

  If you, if you scroll left, you just type in the name of the app where you need to come up.

• 3:04:22Speaker 07

  Go to your home screen, then just scroll all the way to the left.

• 3:04:24Speaker 03

  No, you can just swipe down. No, scroll down. Swipe down and then you just search and it's anywhere.

• 3:04:29Speaker 02

  Swipe down.

• 3:04:30Speaker 00

  It depends on which, yeah.

• 3:04:31Speaker 07

  Oh, I didn't know you could swipe down. All right.

• 3:04:32Speaker 03

  Swipe down.

• 3:04:33Speaker 00

  Cool, cool, cool. So yeah, we could just delete that.

• 3:04:37Speaker 03

  No, we're keeping that in. But I do the same thing. I have no idea where any of my apps are. I just search every time.

• 3:04:41Speaker 00

  I'll say the store, hey, going to the store keeps all the apps updated. Like I'll go to park and I'll, I don't know where my, I don't know where my parking app is. So I'll have to go and then search it, update it. Yeah. All right. So I'm old. I, that was, it's an old guy move.

• 3:04:57Speaker 03

  No, that's just, you need, you needed a tip. You needed to know that quick tip.

• 3:05:00Speaker 00

  Yeah, but that's, that's an old guy.

• 3:05:01Speaker 03

  That just say, that just saved you like 20 minutes.

• 3:05:04Speaker 00

  Yeah, but now my apps are going to be slow because I'm not up. I'm updating apps constantly.

• 3:05:08Speaker 03

  I think updating apps make your, makes it slower.

• 3:05:10Speaker 02

  Yeah, you also update automatically.

• 3:05:11Speaker 00

  Automatically. Yep.

• 3:05:12Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 3:05:13Speaker 02

  You shouldn't have to update them. The only times you'll have to update them, if you haven't used them in a long time, and then you'll have to re-download it.

• 3:05:18Speaker 00

  Yeah, no, I, I have mine updating automatically.

• 3:05:21Speaker 03

  I don't think I have mine updating automatically. I don't care.

• 3:05:25Speaker 02

  I think they automatically.

• 3:05:26Speaker 03

  No, I think you, there's an option.

• 3:05:28Speaker 00

  No.

• 3:05:28Speaker 02

  Sometimes, but.

• 3:05:29Speaker 00

  No, because I, I remember I didn't update Twitter for the longest time, trying to like hold out.

• 3:05:34Speaker 02

  Same.

• 3:05:35Speaker 00

  And it never updated automatically.

• 3:05:37Speaker 02

  Eventually mine just updated automatically.

• 3:05:39Speaker 00

  Oh no, I eventually was just like, it was like breaking and I was just like, fuck, I have to do this.

• 3:05:43Speaker 03

  Yep. Like my YouTube could use an update right now. I'm not updating it.

• 3:05:49Speaker 00

  There are so many apps for everything. I got an app for my garage door. I have an app for like, for the, for the internet and for the router, two different ones. I've got, yeah, I've got three different fitness apps, two of which I haven't used in like a year.

• 3:06:05Speaker 03

  Yeah, MyFitnessPal. I should, I should get.

• 3:06:06Speaker 00

  All right. So some, at some point I gotta clean up my desktop.

• 3:06:09Speaker 02

  Yeah, your desktop. Yeah.

• 3:06:12Speaker 07

  Yeah, your desktop. Uh, and then the only minor one was, which I don't, I don't, I haven't really gotten to the bottom of, but the, the call out video we talked about earlier on Wednesday's show.

• 3:06:22Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 3:06:22Speaker 07

  I was wearing a black shirt.

• 3:06:25Speaker 00

  Oh dude, you.

• 3:06:27Speaker 07

  Beard dandruff?

• 3:06:29Speaker 00

  Yeah, you, you kind of always have that.

• 3:06:32Speaker 07

  Beard dandruff?

• 3:06:33Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 3:06:34Speaker 03

  I got it too.

• 3:06:35Speaker 02

  Jizz?

• 3:06:36Speaker 00

  Yeah. Do you want us to start telling you?

• 3:06:38Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 3:06:39Speaker 00

  Oh, okay. Yeah. Then I'm going to have to tell you every day. But yeah, I got you. I thought, it's not a black shirt today.

• 3:06:45Speaker 02

  I thought it was crumbs.

• 3:06:46Speaker 00

  No, I, I.

• 3:06:46Speaker 07

  I thought it was, it could be crumbs.

• 3:06:48Speaker 02

  It might be crumbs.

• 3:06:48Speaker 03

  I've, I've found I use like dandruff, dandruff shampoo in my beard and it, and it.

• 3:06:54Speaker 07

  I mean, it's disgusting if that's what that is.

• 3:06:56Speaker 03

  That's a hundred percent what it is.

• 3:06:57Speaker 00

  Yeah, I know it is.

• 3:06:57Speaker 03

  A hundred percent.

• 3:06:58Speaker 07

  That's disgusting.

• 3:06:59Speaker 02

  What'd you have for lunch before you, before you did the call out video?

• 3:07:01Speaker 07

  I don't remember.

• 3:07:02Speaker 02

  It's tough to do a call out video when you've got beard dandruff.

• 3:07:05Speaker 00

  Hank is also sneaky, one of our messiest eaters.

• 3:07:08Speaker 07

  Definitely.

• 3:07:09Speaker 00

  Yeah, you always get, you and Max always got shit.

• 3:07:12Speaker 07

  I had spaghetti. I actually had spaghetti because when I went to make the call video, I had sauce all over my face.

• 3:07:16Speaker 00

  That's a funny thing to say that you had for lunch. I had spaghetti for lunch.

• 3:07:20Speaker 07

  Well, we got, I, we got, we got, we got, uh, this is on Monday, we got meat spaghetti. I got spaghetti and meatballs a day. I asked for meatballs. I just wanted meatballs. Memes got me spaghetti and meatballs. It was a huge plate. I did leftovers.

• 3:07:34Speaker 07

  No, I just, I, I would not.

• 3:07:36Speaker 02

  It's memes. So yeah, it's clearly.

• 3:07:37Speaker 07

  Objectively, objectively funny to eat spaghetti at work.

• 3:07:41Speaker 02

  He just wanted the meatballs.

• 3:07:43Speaker 07

  Leftovers spaghetti meatballs. And I didn't even ask for the spaghetti. I just asked for meatballs.

• 3:07:48Speaker 02

  Just, you just want spaghetti and a blue Gatorade.

• 3:07:50Speaker 07

  Yeah. Yeah.

• 3:07:51Speaker 00

  Yeah. For, for, for, for the record, it was dinner. Cause I think lunch spaghetti is very funny.

• 3:07:58Speaker 03

  But leftovers, but leftovers.

• 3:07:59Speaker 00

  Yeah. Like if you ordered, if you're like, what are you going to do for lunch? I'm going to order some spaghetti. That's a psycho move.

• 3:08:04Speaker 07

  Yes, yes.

• 3:08:05Speaker 00

  If it's leftovers from the night before, that makes sense.

• 3:08:07Speaker 07

  Yes, yes, yes. But yeah, uh, yeah, I'm going to have to get tear drift, dandruff shampoo. But yeah, something I gotta think about now, which I didn't think about before.

• 3:08:17Speaker 02

  I think maybe you have to redo the call out video.

• 3:08:20Speaker 07

  No, that's.

• 3:08:20Speaker 00

  Yeah, maybe add me and Max. Pussy.

• 3:08:24Speaker 07

  We gotta see how these other ones go, but yeah.

• 3:08:27Speaker 00

  I would, I would like to play me and Max scramble versus you.

• 3:08:30Speaker 07

  Okay.

• 3:08:30Speaker 02

  Wait, so you're calling, you're calling Hank out?

• 3:08:33Speaker 00

  Yeah. You know what? Max and I are calling Hank out. Yeah. Yeah. So that way when you switch back to righty and you try to talk shit, we'll be like, yeah, but we beat your ass lefty.

• 3:08:40Speaker 03

  That's one, that's one where we're like, we kind of have to win. Like that, like then Hank goes on the opposite of like.

• 3:08:46Speaker 00

  Yeah. No, it's a must win.

• 3:08:47Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's a must win for us.

• 3:08:49Speaker 02

  So you beat Donnie?

• 3:08:50Speaker 07

  Yep.

• 3:08:51Speaker 02

  Even though there was cheating allegations. And by the way, I talked to Donnie about it and, and the way that he framed it made it seem like he didn't actually cheat.

• 3:08:58Speaker 07

  No, I mean, the whole video is out now. Like it's, it's again, like I'm on his, kind of on his side. Like it's, people are a little bit, uh, crazy with the golf rules, but the rules are the rules. I didn't make up the rules. The rules are the rules. By the letter of the rules, he cheated and I won, but, but it's not that serious.

• 3:09:16Speaker 02

  Sounds, it sounds serious if he cheated. It's like the big thing.

• 3:09:19Speaker 07

  I'm not saying he cheated. Everyone else, everyone else is saying he's cheated and that he's a scumbag and like he, he, it was a really classless move. But like I, I, it's really, it's a casual round amongst friends, but yeah. In the, in the callouts, so we got to like, like me and PFT, like we're going to have to play, you know, by the book. Cause these people get really upset if you don't.

• 3:09:38Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 3:09:39Speaker 03

  Did you see any red stakes on that course?

• 3:09:41Speaker 07

  There, there wasn't. I actually, the, the people at the course clarified that he cheated.

• 3:09:46Speaker 03

  Oh.

• 3:09:47Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 3:09:47Speaker 07

  They reached out and said he should have, yeah, he should have had to hit from far the back.

• 3:09:51Speaker 03

  Oh, that's, that's bullshit.

• 3:09:52Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 3:09:52Speaker 02

  They go white tee.

• 3:09:53Speaker 07

  But yeah, it's like, who takes golf that seriously? Like it's, it's.

• 3:09:56Speaker 03

  Not me.

• 3:09:56Speaker 07

  Not me.

• 3:09:57Speaker 02

  Unless you're calling somebody out.

• 3:09:59Speaker 07

  Well, yeah, for, for filming, for content, it's like, you gotta like, yeah, it's like.

• 3:10:03Speaker 02

  You can challenge somebody. That's just golf amongst friends. But when you call somebody out, that's, that to me, that says serious golf.

• 3:10:10Speaker 07

  Ben, when me and you play, it's like we, we would never, I would never make you retee or like do any of that stuff. But if you're, you know, filming a call out video, it has to happen. I don't want it to happen.

• 3:10:20Speaker 02

  Falling, falling whole.

• 3:10:21Speaker 07

  Yeah, that's the call, that's the call out.

• 3:10:22Speaker 02

  No gimmies.

• 3:10:23Speaker 07

  Call out culture. Yeah.

• 3:10:24Speaker 02

  I want to see that putt drop.

• 3:10:25Speaker 07

  Well, that's the handicap people. It's like, oh.

• 3:10:28Speaker 02

  Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Discrimination?

• 3:10:31Speaker 07

  Yes, yes. The handicap committee. Um, if you do gimmies and they get mad about that.

• 3:10:37Speaker 02

  When you put it like that.

• 3:10:38Speaker 07

  Yeah, no, the handicap.

• 3:10:38Speaker 02

  All the handicap people are like, whoa, whoa.

• 3:10:40Speaker 07

  They're the worst. They're the worst.

• 3:10:43Speaker 02

  All right, PFT. Uh, yeah, pretty clean week, except for the fact, uh, I, I lost my wallet. So I'm dealing with ramifications of that from over the weekend. You don't really use your wallet that much anymore though, right?

• 3:10:55Speaker 07

  No. I mean, it's more just like the wallet itself.

• 3:11:00Speaker 00

  But somebody else. Could use your wallet so much.

• 3:11:02Speaker 02

  Well, I so I tracked it down.

• 3:11:03Speaker 07

  That's probably gonna go for thousands on the black market.

• 3:11:06Speaker 02

  What?

• 3:11:07Speaker 03

  Isn't it Velcro?

• 3:11:08Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's.

• 3:11:12Speaker 02

  RFID blocking technology. It's a very expensive.

• 3:11:15Speaker 00

  Sublime sticker.

• 3:11:16Speaker 02

  It does not. I wish. It's a very expensive wallet that looks like it was a very cheap wallet in nineteen ninety six.

• 3:11:24Speaker 07

  That wallet was not expensive.

• 3:11:26Speaker 02

  I'll tell you how much it was, and actually this is big.

• 3:11:28Speaker 00

  Memes, earmuffs.

• 3:11:30Speaker 02

  Big time own goal, uh, because this is me saying that this was an expensive wallet. Uh, it was fifty five dollars.

• 3:11:37Speaker 02

  Which is, that's kind of expensive for me. I don't really buy wallets that much.

• 3:11:40Speaker 03

  Those like, I thought you were gonna say like fifteen hundred.

• 3:11:43Speaker 02

  Yeah, I don't really buy wallets that much.

• 3:11:44Speaker 00

  I didn't, I'd never, I, my wallet right now, I, I just got a new wallet, and by new wallet, I mean, I, uh, put a bunch of black electrical tape on the wallet I've had for twenty years.

• 3:11:53Speaker 02

  There you go.

• 3:11:54Speaker 00

  Burst open at the seams.

• 3:11:55Speaker 07

  I only got a new wallet because I lost my old wallet.

• 3:11:57Speaker 02

  There you go.

• 3:11:58Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 3:11:58Speaker 03

  I have a twenty dollar wallet.

• 3:11:59Speaker 07

  Pebble Beach, though.

• 3:12:00Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 3:12:00Speaker 00

  Yeah. Look at all the black tape on my wallet. Just cuz I.

• 3:12:03Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah.

• 3:12:04Speaker 02

  It almost looks like it's made, made out of electric tape.

• 3:12:06Speaker 00

  Broke, and I went to take something out.

• 3:12:08Speaker 07

  Don't show that to memes.

• 3:12:09Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah, sorry, memes.

• 3:12:10Speaker 02

  Big Cat had to, he had to tape his wallet together because there was so much cash in it.

• 3:12:14Speaker 00

  Yeah, it was bursting. No, I went to the, I went to the bank and I took out a card and the whole thing blew up like a confetti just everywhere. I was like, ah, this is a little embarrassing.

• 3:12:24Speaker 02

  Yeah, I've got, so the wallet, I'll say this, it looks like it's a ten dollar wallet, but it's actually, I actually paid much more than ten dollars for it, which is pretty cool if you ask me. Um, so I did lose it. I'm in the process of getting it back. It's getting mailed back to me because it was found.

• 3:12:41Speaker 07

  In Michigan?

• 3:12:42Speaker 02

  Yeah, in Michigan. Yeah, so unfortunately, I've been trying to, try to make do so if I get pulled over. I'm kind of fucked. What?

• 3:12:49Speaker 07

  You, like, everything's on your phone.

• 3:12:51Speaker 02

  Yeah, you can pay for, for most stuff on your phone, which is great. Um, so that's been, uh, a small nuisance. Besides that, pretty clean week, I'd say. But I did, I, I was reminded of the wallet getting left in Cleveland. And, uh, cuz I was clearing out my phone. As a matter of fact, I was deleting out a bunch of old screenshots that I had on my phone. And I just looked at the first handful of them, just to be like, oh, what was, what was I taking screenshots of in twenty sixteen? And I had correspondence between myself, uh, the Q Arena in Cleveland, and I was blaming Hank because I didn't, I didn't remember this. Hank lost my wallet.

• 3:13:25Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 3:13:26Speaker 02

  At the, at the arena.

• 3:13:28Speaker 07

  Yeah, I remember this, and I remember you blaming me. I don't remember how you losing your wallet was my fault.

• 3:13:33Speaker 00

  It was.

• 3:13:34Speaker 02

  It was your, yeah. I think it was, we were at the basketball game.

• 3:13:38Speaker 00

  You existed.

• 3:13:39Speaker 02

  And then, um, I left and then you were falling behind me and you didn't see that my wallet was on the seat.

• 3:13:46Speaker 00

  Yeah, you didn't say anything.

• 3:13:47Speaker 02

  Even though you wa, you had to step over it physically.

• 3:13:50Speaker 00

  No, I thought you lost your wallet in the check-in.

• 3:13:52Speaker 07

  It was, it was in the security. This one, I, I was trying to remember this too, but I do.

• 3:13:56Speaker 00

  That's where you lost your wallet.

• 3:13:58Speaker 07

  It was, we went through.

• 3:13:59Speaker 02

  And I was ahead of Hank?

• 3:14:00Speaker 00

  It was going through the security and like the, taking out your wallet, you just never picked it back up.

• 3:14:05Speaker 02

  And then Hank was behind me and didn't remind me that I left it there, so Hank really lost.

• 3:14:10Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 3:14:10Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 3:14:10Speaker 07

  Something like that.

• 3:14:11Speaker 00

  That's all fair.

• 3:14:12Speaker 07

  Then the Cavs won.

• 3:14:13Speaker 02

  Then, then the Cavs won the next year, so good news for the Dune Coast Quillbacks. All right, let's go.

• 3:14:21Speaker 00

  Yeah, huge. Uh, all right, uh, mine's simple. I, we've actually been doing, it's a, probably a rugby team.

• 3:14:29Speaker 07

  I also have another one, actually.

• 3:14:30Speaker 02

  No, it's a baseball team. Minor league baseball team going to New Buffalo next year.

• 3:14:35Speaker 00

  Dune Coast Quillbacks, love that. What'd you say?

• 3:14:39Speaker 07

  Uh, you got, I mean, you, you know, I get like hyper fixated on foods. I'm addicted to cheapies.

• 3:14:46Speaker 00

  Same. It's a problem.

• 3:14:48Speaker 07

  Like, I, I got one today.

• 3:14:49Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 3:14:50Speaker 07

  And someone's like, cheapie for Jerry? I was like, no.

• 3:14:52Speaker 00

  I never thought that I would.

• 3:14:56Speaker 00

  Cheese pizza is what we're calling cheapies. Uh, I never thought I would be the guy to go backwards in my like tastes and be like, yeah, I'm just cheese pizza now.

• 3:15:08Speaker 02

  You should start rating.

• 3:15:08Speaker 00

  Like, I'm not, I ordered.

• 3:15:10Speaker 07

  No, it's the same place.

• 3:15:11Speaker 00

  Friday night, like, I ordered a cheapie for my family. I usually get like a pepperoni for myself. I went cheapie. I'm just a cheapie guy.

• 3:15:21Speaker 07

  Yeah, it is a problem.

• 3:15:22Speaker 00

  It's a really big.

• 3:15:23Speaker 07

  I got, I, yeah, this week I've had spaghetti and meatballs for lunch and, and today I had cheapie.

• 3:15:27Speaker 00

  Yeah. Uh, my, my problem's.

• 3:15:28Speaker 07

  And on Wednesday I had cheapie.

• 3:15:29Speaker 00

  So my problem's.

• 3:15:30Speaker 07

  Two days in a row.

• 3:15:30Speaker 00

  That's a problem. We've actually done a good jo, I feel like, health-wise, we're doing good as a podcast with the new system of the food in the other, you know.

• 3:15:38Speaker 03

  It is better.

• 3:15:39Speaker 00

  I eat way less on Sundays, and I've actually, I've been going to the gym every day, been trying to move, either walk or lift. Uh, my problem though now is the Halloween candy showed up at my house way too early. So like, six giant bags of Halloween candy. My wife went to Costco and got them, and it's wa, it's October fifteenth. You can't expect that Halloween candy to last. I had,

• 3:16:06Speaker 00

  I had probably like fourteen pieces of candy last night.

• 3:16:08Speaker 02

  You have to get a gun safe and lock it up in there. You don't know the common.

• 3:16:12Speaker 00

  They're all so small, and I just kept on, the little small Reese's cups, boom, boom, boom, boom.

• 3:16:18Speaker 03

  Those calories don't count.

• 3:16:20Speaker 00

  No, they're, those are just like, they're, they're, it's like taking a vitamin. Yeah, it's taking a vitamin.

• 3:16:25Speaker 03

  I could eat like.

• 3:16:26Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 3:16:27Speaker 03

  I could eat probably a hundred.

• 3:16:29Speaker 00

  You should actually do a challenge. Could we eat a thousand?

• 3:16:34Speaker 02

  You're talking the, the small. The ones that are like individually wrapped?

• 3:16:38Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 3:16:38Speaker 02

  Yeah?

• 3:16:39Speaker 00

  As a team, could we eat a thousand during a football game?

• 3:16:42Speaker 02

  Easily.

• 3:16:43Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 3:16:45Speaker 02

  How many people?

• 3:16:46Speaker 00

  Maybe. Six.

• 3:16:47Speaker 02

  No.

• 3:16:47Speaker 07

  I don't wanna do that. Cuz I'm, I, I don't wanna not.

• 3:16:50Speaker 00

  Yeah, you're right, because I love it so much. Yeah, you're right. Good point.

• 3:16:53Speaker 03

  Also, PFT, this is not minor league baseball. It is actually the North, Northwoods Summer League Baseball.

• 3:16:59Speaker 00

  Yeah, Madison Mallards on the Philly.

• 3:17:00Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's, that's where I meant not like, obviously not affiliated with the actual major baseball team.

• 3:17:05Speaker 03

  College players, but also, this, it's the number two league behind, uh, behind Cape Cod. Really good ballplayers. I would be, I, I would be excited.

• 3:17:12Speaker 00

  It's the Mallards.

• 3:17:13Speaker 02

  I'm pumped.

• 3:17:14Speaker 03

  Yeah, Mallard's are in that league.

• 3:17:15Speaker 00

  The duck blind.

• 3:17:15Speaker 02

  A, a cool looking mascot.

• 3:17:17Speaker 03

  And they play like every night. I know, like, kids on my college team who played there. It's fun because it's really good baseball, but the, but it's a grind of a summer.

• 3:17:27Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 3:17:27Speaker 00

  The duck, the duck blind in Madison, you, it was, I don't know what it is now. It was twenty dollars all you could eat, all you can drink. And you could get there an hour before first pitch, and it was like, actual like good craft beer and shit. Yeah, it was just a mess.

• 3:17:43Speaker 03

  That sounds so fun. I'm je, I'm, I'm jealous.

• 3:17:45Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's, it's gonna be great.

• 3:17:46Speaker 03

  I'm gonna have to, I'm gonna have to come to your house to watch a game.

• 3:17:49Speaker 02

  Quills up. I don't know what they actually say, but it's a, a porcupine mascot.

• 3:17:54Speaker 00

  Love that. All right, Zach, finish us off.

• 3:17:56Speaker 05

  Uh, Firefish of the week. I, I did have a pretty good week throughout the week, uh, until, uh, probably last night. I ended up spending like an hour and a half. What I thought was looking for like a bat in my bedroom, but it turned out no bat, which is good.

• 3:18:10Speaker 02

  Like a bat with a sock on it?

• 3:18:11Speaker 05

  No, like a bat that flies. Like, I, I've been having, like, on and off sleep habits. We won't get too far into the sleep habits, but I have been having trouble falling asleep, and last night I finally fell asleep at a good time. And then at like three thirty, I could have swore I got hit in the face with like a fluttering.

• 3:18:29Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 3:18:30Speaker 05

  Instantly got up and I was like, all right, that has to be an animal. Something came through the air ducts.

• 3:18:34Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 3:18:35Speaker 05

  Cuz it was, the no, the noise it made was perfect wings, like perfect wings. So I started getting paranoid, thinking there was a bat in my apartment. Cuz I'd seen this thing where bats can be in air ducts, like through apartment buildings. So I just like picked apart my entire closet and bedroom, thinking there was a bat in there. And then I got even more nervous, cuz I was like, oh, if I fell asleep, the light's on. That means nocturnal animals who are up in the di, in light time, they have rabies. So then I'm like, all right, I'm looking for a bat with rabies. And I just kind of spiraled for like an hour and a half, two hours, and then it'd be nothing in the apart, in the bedroom.

• 3:19:06Speaker 00

  Were you just asleep the whole time?

• 3:19:08Speaker 05

  I, I thought maybe it was a dream afterwards that had woke me up, but I was like for certain that I got hit in the face, so.

• 3:19:17Speaker 00

  Damn.

• 3:19:17Speaker 05

  Yeah, it was a great week other than that.

• 3:19:19Speaker 02

  Do we think maybe, I don't know, maybe a moth?

• 3:19:22Speaker 05

  I, no, cuz it, it was substantial, like substantial enough to where I was like unfolding all the sweatpants on my closet, like looking between clothes. Cuz they also can like, they have really skinny bones, I was looking up, and they can like, get tiny, tiny.

• 3:19:36Speaker 02

  When you said that you've been watching videos about how bats can find themselves in air ducts, like, are we talking that night you watched the video about it?

• 3:19:43Speaker 05

  I have like seen a thing, like in passing, that bats like take cover in buildings like in the wintertime.

• 3:19:51Speaker 02

  Okay. So, but it might be a bat, and it might have bitten you, and you might be a vampire.

• 3:19:56Speaker 05

  No.

• 3:20:00Speaker 05

  No, no, no bites, no bites. I think I just, as soon as I thought about the bat thing in the air duct, I convinced myself it was a bat. And there was, I don't think there was ever a bat.

• 3:20:09Speaker 02

  Okay, so maybe a bird, maybe nothing.

• 3:20:11Speaker 05

  I know now nothing, but for like an hour and a half, I was paranoid that it was definitely something.

• 3:20:15Speaker 02

  Got you.

• 3:20:16Speaker 00

  Damn.

• 3:20:16Speaker 02

  I'm glad you're okay.

• 3:20:17Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 3:20:18Speaker 05

  I just felt like an idiot.

• 3:20:19Speaker 00

  Yeah, but that.

• 3:20:20Speaker 05

  It was a real concern, though, in the home.

• 3:20:23Speaker 00

  I think you're still asleep. That happens to me. I've had like night terrors, where I just.

• 3:20:27Speaker 02

  You think?

• 3:20:28Speaker 00

  Yeah, where I used to like think, I, I'd wake up, I, I haven't done it in a long time, but I'd wake up sometimes and like I'd have pieces of furniture in front of my door that I had moved, cuz I had thought like someone was trying to get in.

• 3:20:40Speaker 02

  Now, did you, but you didn't remember the whole thing, right?

• 3:20:43Speaker 00

  I would like vaguely remember. So I'd wake up and I'd be like, oh, fuck, that did happen. So it's like a weird state of being asleep and awake.

• 3:20:51Speaker 02

  I was like for certain.

• 3:20:52Speaker 00

  Yeah, you were definitely half asleep, for sure.

• 3:20:56Speaker 03

  Yeah, good news, yeah, but other than that, great week.

• 3:20:58Speaker 00

  Yeah, other than that, other than fighting bats in your sleep, great week.

• 3:21:01Speaker 02

  I think, I was up, though. I was so up.

• 3:21:03Speaker 00

  Nah.

• 3:21:05Speaker 02

  I know, I, yeah, I was definitely up. I went and peed, like, you know.

• 3:21:08Speaker 00

  Okay, maybe you did, maybe you're up. All right, good show, boys. Numbers.

• 3:21:13Speaker 03

  Nine, nine.

• 3:21:15Speaker 00

  Three.

• 3:21:15Speaker 03

  One.

• 3:21:16Speaker 02

  Twenty-eight.

• 3:21:17Speaker 07

  Forty-eight.

• 3:21:18Speaker 00

  Eleven.

• 3:21:19Speaker 07

  Sixty-nine.

• 3:21:24Speaker 03

  Four.

• 3:21:26Speaker 03

  Fifteen.

• 3:21:31Speaker 00

  My fucking chair always gets stuck.

• 3:21:36Speaker 00

  So annoying. What?

• 3:21:41Speaker 00

  Stupid cord.

• 3:21:42Speaker 02

  It's funny.

• 3:21:45Speaker 00

  It's not funny.

• 3:21:46Speaker 02

  It's funny.

• 3:21:48Speaker 00

  Can I give like a, I need like a, something to hold. Like that.

• 3:21:53Speaker 02

  There you go.

• 3:21:54Speaker 05

  There you go.

• 3:21:55Speaker 02

  You did it. You did it.

• 3:21:57Speaker 00

  Fucking DIY.

• 3:22:00Speaker 04

  Learned how to search on her iPhone today and how to put a cord over.

• 3:22:02Speaker 00

  Yup. Hell yeah. You got some, some toot on you, memes. Oh, he's just always got a toot.

• 3:22:09Speaker 02

  I've got a toot.

• 3:22:10Speaker 00

  You're a number one toot guy.

• 3:22:11Speaker 02

  I have no toot.

• 3:22:13Speaker 00

  Let me ask a question for anyone who's still listening to the end of the show. If you tell your, your friend that you love them and they say nothing back, like what is that?

• 3:22:23Speaker 00

  Seventy-nine. I say to memes, I love you and he just goes, okay.

• 3:22:28Speaker 02

  I say, thank you.

• 3:22:29Speaker 00

  It's like, it's so hurtful, man.

• 3:22:31Speaker 02

  No, you don't say thank you. You're just like, mm.

• 3:22:33Speaker 04

  I say, thank you.

• 3:22:34Speaker 00

  Here's my impression of memes.

• 3:22:37Speaker 02

  I say, thank you.

• 3:22:40Speaker 02

  Jets are screwed.

• 3:22:40Speaker 00

  Did you tell, did you tell anyone you love them?

• 3:22:43Speaker 02

  Uh, my parents.

• 3:22:44Speaker 00

  So it's only for parents?

• 3:22:46Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 3:22:47Speaker 00

  So if any of us died here, you'd be fine?

• 3:22:51Speaker 02

  I don't live in the land of Mickey.

• 3:22:54Speaker 00

  Well, all of us are gonna die.

• 3:22:56Speaker 02

  I don't live in the land. What does that have to do with it?

• 3:22:58Speaker 04

  You're not dead.

• 3:23:00Speaker 00

  You don't entertain hypotheticals.

• 3:23:02Speaker 02

  No.

• 3:23:05Speaker 00

  Fifteen.

• 3:23:05Speaker 02

  Fifteen.

• 3:23:06Speaker 04

  Oh, Jacob.

• 3:23:06Speaker 00

  Jacob! Let's go, Jacob!

• 3:23:10Speaker 05

  Shout out Tim Tebow, Pablo Torre, back off.

• 3:23:14Speaker 04

  No, go harder, Pablo.

• 3:23:16Speaker 00

  Yeah, go harder.

• 3:23:18Speaker 02

  At Tebow?

• 3:23:18Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 3:23:19Speaker 04

  No.

• 3:23:19Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 3:23:20Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 3:23:22Speaker 00

  Really go for it.

• 3:23:22Speaker 02

  Yeah, the, the stuff is kinda weird. Go for it.

• 3:23:24Speaker 05

  Full ignorance.

• 3:23:26Speaker 00

  Go for it.

• 3:23:26Speaker 04

  It sounds like what you're.

• 3:23:27Speaker 00

  You've gotten it before, right, Jacob? So it's still just colt. Memes and PFT.

• 3:23:32Speaker 02

  Yup.

• 3:23:33Speaker 00

  What was that? You've gotten it before.

• 3:23:34Speaker 02

  Are you shook?

• 3:23:35Speaker 00

  Wrong camera.

• 3:23:36Speaker 05

  I've got it once before. This is number two. Other time I got hit by a car that day.

• 3:23:40Speaker 00

  Yeah. Uh, you got any, any words of encouragement to, to memes?

• 3:23:45Speaker 05

  Memes, you're doing great.

• 3:23:47Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 3:23:48Speaker 04

  Thanks, man.

• 3:23:48Speaker 05

  Tell them you're gonna get it.

• 3:23:50Speaker 02

  PFT?

• 3:23:51Speaker 04

  PFT, no. PFT, get fucked.

• 3:23:53Speaker 02

  Yeah, get fucked, I guess. Yeah.

• 3:23:55Speaker 00

  Get fucked, buddy. No, PFT's never gotten it.

• 3:23:58Speaker 02

  Jacob.

• 3:23:59Speaker 04

  PFT said, maybe with the new playoff, Gators might make it.

• 3:24:03Speaker 02

  I didn't say that. Memes is making stuff up. Memes is.

• 3:24:05Speaker 05

  I hope so.

• 3:24:06Speaker 02

  Memes just made that up.

• 3:24:07Speaker 05

  I wanna win softball games.

• 3:24:07Speaker 02

  Memes just made that up. Memes, you're a piece of shit.

• 3:24:10Speaker 04

  Love you guys.

• 3:24:11Speaker 02

  No, he doesn't. He doesn't love you. Happy birthday to our good friend Andrew Santino. Happy birthday to Bryce Harper. Happy birthday, Manute Bull. Happy birthday to John Mayer. Happy birthday, Bob Weir. Happy birthday to Jamal Adams Blitz Boy. Happy birthday to Ernie Els. Happy birthday to Eminem, Norm MacDonald, Evel Knievel. And, uh, happy birthday on Sunday, RIP, Mike Dicker, would have been his birthday. Happy birthday, Dalton Kincaid on Sunday. Happy birthday, RIP to Mike Leach. Happy birthday on Sunday to Jean-Claude Van Damme, Zac Efron, uh, Brittany Griner and FaZe Banks on Sunday. And I don't think we have time for questions because we're out of tape.

• 3:24:53Speaker 00

  You forgot anyone?

• 3:24:54Speaker 02

  Nope.

• 3:24:54Speaker 00

  No, you forgot anyone?

• 3:24:56Speaker 02

  No, we reached the end of the tape.

• 3:24:57Speaker 04

  We're not out of tape.

• 3:24:58Speaker 02

  We reached the end of the tape.

• 3:24:59Speaker 04

  Hank has a question.

• 3:25:00Speaker 00

  We're officially out of tape, boys.

• 3:25:01Speaker 04

  Hank has a question.

• 3:25:02Speaker 02

  Happy birthday to Dante. I missed Dante's birthday.

• 3:25:06Speaker 00

  How?

• 3:25:07Speaker 02

  What do you mean, how?

• 3:25:08Speaker 00

  You have no respect.

• 3:25:09Speaker 02

  It happens sometimes.

• 3:25:10Speaker 00

  No respect.

• 3:25:11Speaker 02

  It's, it's that, it's not that I have no respect. It's every day I treat him, I treat Dante like he's special, like.

• 3:25:16Speaker 04

  Does Dante have any comment on this matter, Hank?

• 3:25:18Speaker 00

  How'd you know you forgot?

• 3:25:19Speaker 02

  No, because you're being a, oh, cause Hank's white knighting for Dante. Dante doesn't care.

• 3:25:25Speaker 00

  Uh, yeah, I, I white knight for people I care about. I have respect for Dante and I, I think other people should do like you.

• 3:25:30Speaker 02

  I respect Dante more than you.

• 3:25:31Speaker 00

  You so much so that you didn't give him a happy birthday, but you wish happy birthday.

• 3:25:35Speaker 02

  Sometimes guys don't like to be wished happy birthdays.

• 3:25:38Speaker 00

  Communists, dictators.

• 3:25:40Speaker 02

  We're like communists.

• 3:25:41Speaker 00

  Stalin.

• 3:25:42Speaker 02

  Yeah. Oh, yeah, I did wish Stalin a happy birthday.

• 3:25:45Speaker 04

  Happy birthday.

• 3:25:45Speaker 02

  That's a fact. Yes, I did do that.

• 3:25:48Speaker 00

  So, yeah.

• 3:25:48Speaker 02

  Lockwoods.

• 3:25:49Speaker 00

  Respect the Don. Yeah.

• 3:25:50Speaker 02

  Yeah. Communists, dictators, Lockwoods, I wish happy birthday to anybody.

• 3:25:54Speaker 00

  Say a Warren Zevon song.

• 3:25:57Speaker 02

  Love you guys. Happy birthday, Dante. Early for next year.