NFL Week 6, Fastest 2 Minutes, Texans Are Back, Caleb Returns, Titans Get Their First Win, Rams Rock Bottom + Who's Back Of The Week And Playoff Baseball

NFL week 6 and we start with fastest 2 minutes. (00:00:00-00:13:35) We then recap every game from Sunday Texans 34, Jaguars 31 (00:13:35-00:30:31) Browns 13, Ravens 10 (00:30:31-00:39:06) Bears 31, Falcons 23 (00:39:06-00:49:53_ Steelers 26, Bucs 16 (00:49:53-00:59:05) Patriots 26, Jets 19 (00:59:05-01:10:40) Panthers 25, Eagles 14 (01:10:40-01:23:11) Titans 26, Colts 20 (01:23:11-01:35:48) Saints 34, Giants 27 (01:35:48-01:49:27) Cardinals 18, Rams 16 (01:49:27-02:02:07) Chiefs 22, Chargers 6 (02:02:07-02:15:44) Bills 33, Raiders 30 (02:15:44-02:25:27) Packers 23, Cowboys 13 (02:25:27-02:35:43) We then talk MLB Playoffs and Who's back of the week You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or Netflix. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/pardon-my-take https://barstool.link/pardon-my-take

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  Welcome to Pardon My Take presented by DraftKings. The crown is yours. Today is Monday, October 19th, week six.

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  We start in London with Hank.

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  In London town, Foster the people more row told CJ Penny proud. Yeah, yeah, it's okay. I tie my hands up catcher TD so I don't fall that way. To put the Texans off seven love. Bishold Tottenham Hotspur dared to do a two yard catch in the end zone to turn this match into a 7-7 draw. Jaylen Noel, Noel caught a touchdown. It went well. Caught a touchdown and had Jags fans in hell. I just butchered that reading. I can't read, mate. Travis was hunting interceptions on defense and then gathering touchdowns on

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  offense, contributing from both sides of the pitch. Jafar Jordan thought he had all the absolute power after giving the Texans a 10-point lead in the third quarter, but after the Jags nodded it up at 31. Kai, so not me fair then. Put the Texans up once and for all. Texans 34, Jaguars 31.

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  Thanks Hank. Henri, Henri. Down in Atlanta, where the return of Caleb Williams saw an onslaught of Bears offense as he found Colston, this land is your land, this land is love land for an early score. They call him Spaleb Williams because he looked like a vet out there. The way he was surgically handling, handling the balls, going 24 for 24 in a clean pocket and slicing and dicing Atlanta's secondary. As for the Falcons, Michael Flaccid Phoenix looked bad in the first half and didn't wake up until he saw a set of big pits, throwing two titties to his tight end Kyle. The big story in this game was the return of Kyler Joseph Gordon-Levitt,

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  who made the Falcons his son as he rocked them with his third sack of the day, robbing any chance of Atlanta winning the game. The Bears 31, Falcons 23.

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  We go out to Cleveland, the mistake by the lake, as the Browns are paying a visit to Monk and Donuts, as it's been a baker's dozen years since the Browns were in first place this late in the season. But enough about breakfast pastries. No one likes hearing Deshaun Watson, turnover. Snoop Huntley, Huntley hippos gave Ravens fans another bored game to watch as Declan Susan Doyle is coaching like he's never scored in his life. Derrick Henry Lockwood choked away another easy win on camera. This guy's never won on camera, folks. Mostly by taking a questionable drop and couldn't find the hole to save his life. I've never, this guy's really good. Has never won on camera.

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  Never won on camera.

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  Kind of crazy. The Browns recover the fumble as Uncle Jesse Minter sat in the corner and watched as Jerry O'Connell Judy absolutely cooked them, even with a fierce defense, romaine the secondary. Leading to second slice of a Smith sandwich, going two for three on the day, but making a first and last all aboard the anybody Smitty committee as the Cleveland Browns are 4-2 and lead the AFC North.

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  Never won a game on camera, boom.

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  Cleveland, don't take block tomorrow, Hank.

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  But now we head to Fall, where Max was there to see the Eagles take on the Panthers.

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  We head to the city of brotherly love where the fall out of feebles are continuing to feeble to the point of no return. Tanner McKeegan, Michael Key is out there playing with guys like Hingle McCringleberry after the entire team is seemingly out. It was a punt fest early until the Eagles defense was saying, I gotta leave you alone to Bryce Young, Jay-Z, and his tight end as he completed the easy touchdown to Tommy Tremble. But Damian Pierce Brosnan was able to leave the Panthers defense shaken, not stirred. That one was really bad to fool the Eagles fans into thinking they were somehow in the game. From that

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  point on, it was mostly all Panthers. In the second half, they went full on Elon mode as Chuba Hubbard was floating over the Eagles defense like that stupid fucking car to the tune of 125 yards in a second half time. Whatever. Panthers 25, Eagles 14.

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  Thanks Max. We now go to Foxborough where memes was there.

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  In Foxborough, AJ Today's Brown was getting gang banged by the sun all day and couldn't catch a cold. So Drake, ma, ma, ma, ma, ma, making Patriots fans happy, had to throw to the Mario Douglas and Romeo dooby dooby doo for touchdowns. As I imagine, we talk later on in the show, but the Jets controlled the game and Amarian Cooper was serving the Patriots defense all day. Hunter Henry Lockwood sealed the game on third and 10, even though he lies about his handicap on the golf course. Picture this, it was Coach Mike Frable. Picture this, it was Coach Mike Frable banging on the bathroom floor. But she caught me in Sedona? Wasn't me. TMZ in Arizona? Wasn't me. Left scratch marks on my shoulder? Wasn't me. Leaked

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  the info that I told her? Wasn't me. Patriots 26, Jets 19.

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  Thanks memes. We now head to Indianapolis where the winless Titans took on the Colts in a mere formality. Oh, but wait, that is why they play the games. Colts fans were asking to be past the bottle as they belted out Mr. Daniel Jones and me. Tell me a fairy tale that we may someday actually fire Chris Ballard as the quarterback continue to throw the game away. And it looks like it will be another long December for the franchise in Indianapolis. Carnell Tate Ball was in his bag, had some dangerous cuts and some highlights for the Gram as he drug his team out of the winless column. And it was Jeffrey Ben Simmons and the Titans defense proving they are back. Wait, wait, I'm just hearing

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  word. Ben Simmons has torn his Achilles. He's no longer back. This is our Colts. This is our team. We bleed out. And now we're dead. Titans 26, Colts 20. Now we head down to Tampa where Zach is there. In Tampa, Jalen Tom Daniels back at it again with the touchdown pass to Emeka Egba Zuka Zuka Bubblegum. Bazooka Zuka Bubblegum, who chews up, spits out, and sticks the Steelers defense underneath the pylon for the first touchdown of the day. Many drives later, Aaron Mister Rogers neighborhood slips off his shoes and puts

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  On his favorite sweater before asking, would you be mine? Could you be mine? Would you be my receiver while politely passing to Darnell Washington Wizards who uses his young core to twist and turn through defenders, scoring nine points rather than settling for the tray. In overtime, Aaron Kenny Rogers, maybe 42 years old with a flock camera fetish, but he sure knows how to hold them, knows when to fold them, knows when to step up in the pocket and knows when to pass as he connects to Jeremy St. Pernard, who goes off leash chasing his tail all the way to the doghouse for six points. In the end, after countless blown play calls, no hurry up offense and zero creativity, Zach Robinson tells the Bucks offense, not gonna lie, I'm gonna take a nap. Let me know. Bro, let you know what? What do you mean?

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  Let me know. What the hell are, dude? What am I letting you know about? Yeah, bro. Well, well, I guess we'll let you know, wake you up later, man. Pittsburgh 26, Tampa Bay 19.

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  Take Zach. We go to Arrowhead as Andy Reid off a bye and the Chiefs are hosting the biggest disappointment in football, the Los Angeles Pooper Chargers. Kenneth Walker, Texas Ranger, told the Chargers defense they have AIDS, probably because they never wrap up. Mike McDaniel Ratcliffe has gone from being a famous boy wizard to just collecting checks and saying yes to any old screenplay. Speaking of the Chiefs, the Chargers quarterback must have been listening to all the old Kansas records singing, I closed my eyes only for

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  a moment and the moment's gone. All my teammates passed before my eyes with injuriosity. Just in the wind. All we are is just in the wind. Herbert can feel another season slip, slip, flipping away like sand in an hourglass and must like their quarterback. Chargers fans are comforting themselves with way too much beer recently. Chiefs 42, the Chargers 6. In Las Vegas, where Ashton Kutcher Gentey told the fans, you just got pumped. I actually am good at football after scoring in the first half in a back and forth game. Josh Allen Iverson

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  took his and one mixtape to Sin City, throwing a perfect alleyoop to key on Derek Coleman in the second half as the Bills and Joe Wayne Brady asked, is Buffalo gonna have to choke a bitch as the Raiders tried to claw back into the game. Klick Kubiak was nowhere to be found as the Raiders attempted their late comeback and Squirt Cousins jammed one into Trey Smucker late to cut it to three, but it wasn't enough as no one circles the wagons like the Buffalo Bills. Bills 33, Raiders 30.

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  Standing on a corner, Jameis Winston and Hoboken, such a fine sight to see. Is Tyler shot? Can the Giants suck with Skataboo not getting carries? Come on, 18. Don't keep us waiting. Why Jameis's receivers, all-star fading? Saints go marching 34, 27. And that is fastest two minutes of week six. Football season is here and we're brought to you by Chevy and it's here. And whether you're grinding through the week or gearing up for kickoff, there's one ride that's always game ready.

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  The Browns might be the best team in football.

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  Browns might be the best team in football.

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  The mighty, mighty AFC North.

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  Yeah. And the Texans are, I think all the way back and now it's trouble for the Jaguars. So let's start with that game. We had Texans 34, Jaguars 31. A fun London game.

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  Very fun.

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  I have to say, I still wish this game was on during regular hours, but it was a fun game and it was somehow, if you said to me going into this game Texans Jaguars, there would be zero sacks and 65 points scored. I'd be like, no fucking way. And that's what happened.

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  Hmm. Hmm. That's interesting to me. What's interesting to me is the NFL has pissed in all of our faces for the last, what, like 10 years by putting these games over in England?

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  Yep.

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  They might starting to be catch on that the one way that they can make us not hate them so much is if it's just points, points, points, points, points. Because if you're betting on the games, more people will bet the over. If you're betting on, on props, people to score, et cetera, et cetera. So what's to stop the NFL from playing games on a very slick surface where the defense has no footing and can't adjust to what the offense is doing?

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  Hmm.

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  I think that that's pretty interesting. The, the surface was an issue today.

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  Yeah, it was.

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  It definitely favored the offense.

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  Big time.

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  And it was actually anti referee. It was a very anti referee surface. We saw early on, I think it was the umpire. He went down and I just want to say like, first of all, thoughts and prayers. We're thinking about him. He tipped his hat on his way out, which I think that means that he's doing okay.

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  His, and his fellow ref took a knee.

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  Fellow ref took a knee.

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  Right next to him.

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  And then.

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  Very beautiful.

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  Honoring the crowd on his way out on the cart was, was a very touching moment, not a dry eye in the house.

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  Yeah.

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  But on, on the field, awesome game, really fun game. I still think that the, there is an issue for the Texans. I don't think they're all the way back yet.

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  Yeah.

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  Because the defense is still, they're giving up 30 points a game a lot.

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  Yeah. I mean, the Jaguars offense is very good, but yes, that was, that was definitely concerned. But CJ Stroud is good.

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  Yeah.

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  CJ Stroud is good again. And it's not just his numbers were good because he had three touchdowns and threw for over 300 yards. He looks like CJ Stroud rookie year where he's comfortable in the pocket and he's scanning the field and he's hitting guys, you know, with like a perfectly thrown ball and Jalen Noel was awesome. And I mean, we already know that, that Nico Collins is awesome. Marvin Harrison, saw him. He actually had three first downs, three catches, three first downs.

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  Yep.

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  So I think that's the part, like you, you hope that the Texans defense will figure it out, but CJ Stroud, which was the big problem last year, he does look, just from eye test, looks like he's gotten his like mojo back.

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  He looks more confident and especially after he threw a pick.

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  Yeah.

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  So he threw a pick and then, and then came back. He told, you see, he told D'Amico on the side and say, hey, man, I got you. Don't worry about me.

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  Well, we, we don't know if he threw that pick or not because I've never seen a cameraman get, get deeked out and jump for ball fakes more than what happened on Sunday morning. It was, it like multiple plays. He would just be zooming into the wrong side of the field, just biting on everything. Dirty eyes is what we call it.

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  Dirty eye, like they were taking the candy.

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  Yeah.

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  And I noticed because when the commanders played over there against the Colts, it was kind of the same deal.

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  It was crazy.

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  Something about the camera crew that they use over in England, they bite on play action. They've got eyes in the, you need to, you need to understand your assignment on that and don't get distracted by the eye candy and trying to make a splash play and, and zoom in on the receiver.

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  But we just didn't see that on the first, on the first time. We just did not see the interception because he just bit so hard.

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  We didn't. Yeah. They're, they're, they're soccer cameramen.

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  Yeah. But to be, yeah, you're right. I mean, CJ Stroud having the confidence and like it was, it was a weird game and the fact the Jaguars, like, so the Jaguars offense we know is good. Liam Cohen's a really good coach. And so I, I'm a little surprised that they were able to score 31 on the, on the Texans defense, but it's actually works both ways because the Jaguars defense has been really good and they got carved up. That was the first time a team scored over 20, 20 or more since week 10 last year, which was also against the Texans.

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  Yeah.

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  So the Jaguars have been holding every single opponent to 20 or less and CJ Stroud just diced them up. And it was kind of the same thing, like the Jaguars, I, they're not a bad team. This does. Make it so that the AFC South feels like, because that was the Jaguars home game against the Texans. Texans now get the Jaguars at home and the Texans also have Giants, Chargers, Browns, Colts coming up. So like this could, I, this game was a big swing in that if the Jaguars won it, you could almost say they're going to win the AFC South with the Texans winning it. It's like game on, but more than anything like this game, it's just the, when, when the Jaguars lose, they, they're just penalized costly penalties, bad miscues in the red zone.

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  I feel like we watched the Jaguars for, take a, take a two week trip to London where they just sucked in the red zone.

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  The, the interception that Trevor Lawrence said, yeah. They have a, their, their coaching staff's awesome. The offense is humming. It looks great. Their kicker is one of the best to ever do it.

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  He's insane.

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  The 60 yard field goal that he made at the end of the game where it had, it had the height on it that you see on an extra point.

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  It was nuts.

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  If, if he tried to kick that, the way that you see a lot of kickers attempt 60 yard, it's more of like a line drive. I think he could probably make it from like 80 yards.

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  Yeah.

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  Because the amount, the, the height that that thing had on it was incredible. And it kind of having a kicker that's, that's that good from 60 yards might have made Liam Cohen maybe accidentally make the wrong decision in that circumstance.

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  Yeah.

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  Because he had such confidence in his kicker to make it. He's like, okay, well then, you know, we'll make it. And then we'll see what hap, we'll go out and play defense.

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  Yeah.

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  And that situation with that game flow probably would have been a better idea to go for it. Was it fourth and four?

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  Yeah.

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  I think probably a better idea to go for it and, and try to score a touchdown. It's, it's like a very, very small thing, but having a kicker that's that good, it, it's healthy for a head coach to have like a little bit of distrust in their kicker.

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  Yeah.

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  To be like, he's not as good as he thinks he is.

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  There needs to be, the, the, the ecosystem of a, an NFL locker room has to have tension between the head coach and the kicker.

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  At all times.

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  Yeah. You can't, you can't just be going in being like, we have a weapon and we trust him no matter what. You gotta be able to say under your breath like fucking kickers.

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  Yeah.

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  They blew us this game, but Cam Little is, he's the best kicker in football. He's, he's definitely taken that mantle, right?

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  Yeah.

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  He's, he's better than Brandon Aubrey at this point. Yeah.

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  Aubrey's down. Uh, one other thing about, about the offense, Liam Cohen, I, I think, I mean this as a compliment. He is a very creative coach. He doesn't get enough credit sometimes for the little fuck shit that he likes to put in. Because it's not necessarily always as flashy as some of the fuck shit that other coaches put in. But it's kind of like Ben Johnson-y in a way that I think sometimes he adds stuff to the game plan so that the real film nerds out there, the real like analytical, next generation creative coaching guys will break it down and be like, oh my God, this guy's on a different, different level. Because he had, I think it was on a touchdown, the touchdown jumped past the Trevor through to the backup tight end. He had the offensive tackle split out to the left, running like a fake bubble screen.

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  Yeah, yeah, I saw that. Yeah.

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  Which looks awesome. And it makes me want to see them actually run the play to him. But I think Liam Cohen's just putting that out there just so that people will be like, this guy's in his bag right now.

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  I would say he probably isn't playing to the, the film crew on Twitter.

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  Not necessarily on Twitter. I mean, like, just like the next generation.

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  General.

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  He likes being known as being like a really smart guy.

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  Yeah. Or he just wants to put a bunch of stuff on film so that you never know what his team's going to do.

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  I would love to see it if he actually.

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  That feels like maybe.

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  If he actually ran it to that guy.

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  Yeah.

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  I would love to see that.

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  The, uh, the, I also think we should place a bet, boys. I think Travis Hunter for Heisman. Because he almost flipped this game himself. He had, so he had a hundred and, uh, one yards receiving and a touchdown, but he had a stretch in the fourth quarter where he went four catches for 40 yards on a singular drive and then scored the touchdown. And then the next drive had the interception in the, in the end zone, which again, we didn't see. He's special. They find, I think they finally did the right thing with him where they said, hey, we're going to focus on defense. Once you've mastered defense, then we'll start using you on offense again. Instead of being like, worry about both at the same time.

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  And when they, when they bring him in on offense, the ball usually ends up going his way.

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  Yeah.

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  They find a way to get it to him.

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  He was, I mean, he was awesome. He almost won this game in that fourth quarter sequence where it was back to back. He, he scored a touchdown, got a pick in the other end zone. It's, I mean, we should probably bet him Heisman. Hank, did you watch this game?

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  I watched the second half. Yeah.

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  Okay. What'd you think?

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  It was a good game. Entertaining.

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  Yeah.

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  I had the Jags, Travis Hunter is, I mean, it's, it's insane that he's managed to like, come back and actually be effective on both sides of the ball.

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  It's crazy. It really is. He's a, he's an absolute weapon. And I think he did, was it Travis Hunter who did the, uh, the meme touchdown? Yeah. The, the dancing thing? I don't know. I, I don't think it was, I think it was someone else.

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  I think it might've been Tooten.

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  What, what's that from? Is that from, I just, it, it's like not, you guys know what I'm talking about. It's the little person doing the dance and it looks like it should be from a movie like a hundred years ago. But I don't know where it's from. What, what is that meme? Explain the meme to us, Zach.

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  I don't know.

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  Tooten did it. You, you haven't seen that? It's a little person just shushing and then they just do a little dance and some hay.

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  This tiny meme never came across my regular sized desk.

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  It's like, it's a movie from the 1900s.

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  It has to be. Cause it, it, it feels like it should be from the Wizard of Oz, but I don't think it's from the Wizard of Oz, right? Like everyone wa, if you.

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  AI.

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  Oh.

• 24:14Speaker 06

  So it's, it's Rumpelstiltskin.

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  Oh, what was Rumpelstiltskin's, uh, deal?

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  Rumpelstiltskin.

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  Trick people into signing deals and then he would take your life.

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  He collected souls, right?

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  So he sounds like a, a boy band agent?

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  Yeah.

• 24:29Speaker 00

  Yep. It was, was that creepy dude who signed everyone?

• 24:33Speaker 03

  Uh, Lou Pearlman.

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  Yeah.

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  Rumpelstiltskin is a famous German fairy tale collected by the Brothers Grimm in their 1812 collection, Children of Hell. All right. Okay. So he just, he just gets people to sign really bad deals.

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  He's a guy that you have to like guess his name. If you guess his name, then he has to let you out of the deal.

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  You say it three times in a mirror?

• 24:53Speaker 03

  I think you just have to guess it.

• 24:56Speaker 00

  Oh, you just guess his name?

• 24:57Speaker 03

  I think if you guess his name.

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  Cause no one would ever be named Rumpelstiltskin.

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  Right. The Brothers Grimm had some fucked up shit.

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  Little Rattle Stilt is what a, uh, Rumpelstiltskin translates to.

• 25:09Speaker 03

  What about Rip Van Winkle?

• 25:11Speaker 00

  He just went to sleep for a really long time. They made a really good whiskey.

• 25:14Speaker 03

  Oh, fuck it. He's, so he passed out?

• 25:15Speaker 00

  Yeah. He just got fucked up and passed out. Uh, I know that's, is that Pappy Van Winkle? I think it's his brother. His brother made the.

• 25:22Speaker 03

  There's also Rip Van Winkle.

• 25:23Speaker 00

  Is it?

• 25:24Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 25:24Speaker 00

  You know, I'm saying his brother made the whiskey. I think Rip was the one who just passed out.

• 25:27Speaker 03

  Pappy Van Winkle, there's no better whiskey to mix with like a Pepsi zero sugar than Pappy Van Winkle.

• 25:33Speaker 00

  I agree.

• 25:34Speaker 03

  It actually sets.

• 25:35Speaker 00

  I actually like to put a little, uh, uh, Pepsi and then a little vinegar in my Pappy Van Winkle.

• 25:40Speaker 03

  The vinegar?

• 25:41Speaker 00

  Yeah. Vinegar.

• 25:42Speaker 03

  Like a floater?

• 25:42Speaker 00

  Yeah. Yeah. A little vinegar floater in your whiskey.

• 25:45Speaker 03

  That's pretty good.

• 25:46Speaker 00

  It's really good.

• 25:46Speaker 03

  I love good whiskey.

• 25:47Speaker 00

  Yeah. Everyone should try that. And then you, what you do is you drink it and then you, uh, lick some salt and take a little, little lime. You squeeze a lime in your mouth.

• 25:57Speaker 03

  Chaser. That's smart.

• 25:58Speaker 00

  And then someone slaps you and that's the perfect, that's good. Yeah. That's really good whiskey that, we're whiskey connoisseurs. Everyone knows that.

• 26:05Speaker 03

  I'm a bourbon boy.

• 26:06Speaker 00

  Do you think we'll ever get into that?

• 26:08Speaker 03

  I do like bourbon.

• 26:08Speaker 06

  I like bourbon.

• 26:09Speaker 00

  I do too, but I'm saying, I know, I, I like it. I'm saying, you guys know what I'm saying. I like the people who make it their personality.

• 26:16Speaker 03

  Right.

• 26:16Speaker 00

  They're like, they're testing it and they're doing videos and saying, look at what I got tonight.

• 26:21Speaker 06

  Remember when Billy got you that?

• 26:22Speaker 02

  PFT is, PFT is close.

• 26:24Speaker 03

  No, he's not, not really. I, I like it. I like good bourbon. I, I know the difference between good bourbon and like, I really enjoy a good bourbon, but I don't research them and know anything about the bottles or anything.

• 26:35Speaker 06

  Didn't Billy get you a, a bourbon wood burning?

• 26:38Speaker 03

  Smoker.

• 26:39Speaker 06

  Smoker.

• 26:39Speaker 03

  Yeah. He got me a smoker.

• 26:40Speaker 06

  Have you ever used that?

• 26:40Speaker 03

  Tried to use it. I'm too dumb to use it. So no, no fault of Billy's. Like that was a good gift. I was just too dumb to figure out how to use it properly.

• 26:48Speaker 00

  I think it's like guys have three choices in life. It's become like very heavily into bourbon, heavily into, uh, craft beer or get divorced.

• 26:56Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 26:56Speaker 00

  It's like, that's it.

• 26:57Speaker 06

  Wine.

• 26:57Speaker 00

  Choose which store.

• 26:58Speaker 06

  Wine as well.

• 26:59Speaker 00

  Wine's kind of a.

• 27:00Speaker 03

  You could be a wine guy.

• 27:01Speaker 00

  But yeah.

• 27:01Speaker 06

  I'm not a wine guy.

• 27:02Speaker 00

  It's a girl thing.

• 27:03Speaker 03

  Once I'm a.

• 27:03Speaker 00

  What'd you say? What'd you say?

• 27:05Speaker 06

  Smoke meats.

• 27:05Speaker 00

  Smoke meats too. Yeah.

• 27:06Speaker 06

  Guys definitely get into wine.

• 27:08Speaker 00

  No, they do, but then I, I call them girls.

• 27:12Speaker 03

  Once I was working, I was working a whiskey tasting booth at this wine and food festival because the only way that I could get into the free tasting was to be a volunteer at it. So it was down in Austin. It's like once a year. So I volunteered to run the whiskey booth. And so I was in charge of like pouring people bourbons and I would just make up stuff about the bourbons as I was pouring it off the top of my head. And I forget what I said, like this one's got hint of vanilla in it. And, uh, this guy was in front of like a small, there was a small group, probably like 10 people around me. He goes, that's actually not true. He's wearing a fedora. I'll never forget. He goes, that's actually not true. I was like, oh yeah? And he takes a card out of his pocket and he made himself a card.

• 27:49Speaker 00

  He's a fed?

• 27:49Speaker 03

  He made himself a card that said his name and then master whiskey taster.

• 27:53Speaker 00

  Damn.

• 27:54Speaker 03

  And he just walked around carrying like a business card.

• 27:56Speaker 00

  Damn.

• 27:56Speaker 03

  Not his actual job.

• 27:57Speaker 00

  You got fucking.

• 27:58Speaker 03

  I got owned.

• 27:59Speaker 00

  You got the feds on you.

• 28:00Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 28:01Speaker 00

  Max, it's okay. You can get in wine. I'm sorry. I know you're thinking.

• 28:03Speaker 06

  Well, Italians like wine.

• 28:04Speaker 00

  Yeah, I know.

• 28:06Speaker 06

  It's an Italian thing.

• 28:06Speaker 00

  Get, get drunk, have purple teeth.

• 28:10Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 28:10Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 28:12Speaker 03

  Uh, one additional note of this London game.

• 28:14Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 28:15Speaker 03

  They had the most dog shit corgi race of all time.

• 28:18Speaker 00

  I saw that.

• 28:18Speaker 03

  Did you see it?

• 28:19Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 28:19Speaker 03

  Can you pull up, pull up the dog shit corgi race?

• 28:22Speaker 00

  Yeah, we gotta start respecting corgi races more, guys.

• 28:25Speaker 03

  This is terrible. These are probably the inbred corgis that the queen raises.

• 28:29Speaker 00

  We also.

• 28:30Speaker 03

  They, they didn't know how to race. They, they just, they scattered. This is the very, that's the very end of it, by the way. It was about a 40 second race and they all went across the field.

• 28:40Speaker 00

  Do you know what the problem is here? I think as a culture, England, they're not doing corgi races. So like our corgis are trained to one day, every corgi in America goes to bed at night and they're like, someday I hope my owner brings me to a division one college football game and I can race. That's it. That's all they're looking for. In England, they're like, you know, we're just gonna sit by a crackling fire while my owner drinks tea.

• 29:07Speaker 03

  This is.

• 29:07Speaker 00

  In a, in a, in like a, some country estate.

• 29:10Speaker 03

  It's honestly, it's disrespectful to Wembley. This is like when Augusta invited Dude Perfect.

• 29:15Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 29:15Speaker 03

  It's disgusting.

• 29:16Speaker 00

  These corgis had no desire whatsoever to run.

• 29:19Speaker 03

  No.

• 29:20Speaker 00

  Fuck them. Look at that. Oh my God.

• 29:22Speaker 03

  Out of shape.

• 29:23Speaker 00

  Leave it to us. We do the corgi races. It'd be like if, if, if we, what's the game in France next week? If, if at halftime, they've got like a dog balancing on a gym ball. Or, you know, an Asian lady throwing plates to herself.

• 29:38Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 29:38Speaker 00

  Don't do that. That's our shit. We, we're the, we're the country where our attention span is so low that we need someone to entertain us with oohs and ahs at halftime.

• 29:47Speaker 03

  We're not gonna have a mime come out at halftime.

• 29:49Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 29:50Speaker 06

  Look how fast this corgi race.

• 29:51Speaker 00

  That's America, baby.

• 29:53Speaker 03

  Because we.

• 29:53Speaker 06

  They're absolutely moving.

• 29:54Speaker 00

  Yes, because again, we breed our corgis to race for $0 at the halftime of major sporting events. That's what we do.

• 30:04Speaker 03

  For the glory.

• 30:04Speaker 00

  For the glory.

• 30:05Speaker 03

  In England, they don't understand that because it's like, oh, we'll just get relegated.

• 30:08Speaker 00

  But yeah.

• 30:08Speaker 03

  It doesn't matter.

• 30:09Speaker 00

  For the 10 second bumper in from, from commercial break right before the half kicks on.

• 30:13Speaker 03

  But what a moment that is.

• 30:14Speaker 00

  It is. It's incredible.

• 30:15Speaker 03

  And, and they're, I'm telling you, you have to find the entire clip of the full corgi race today. It was, it was so bad. It was so bad.

• 30:23Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 30:24Speaker 03

  Maybe reconsider having that, of all things, should make you think twice about playing games over in England.

• 30:29Speaker 00

  Yeah, this is Wisconsin UCLA game last night. They had that refs got involved big time. Oh, they gave them some cream. Nice. Uh.

• 30:36Speaker 06

  Refs got involved in the corgi race?

• 30:37Speaker 00

  No, they probably did. That one guy, Valar, the fucking head ref of the, the game probably did. He probably tried to call penalty on Wisconsin.

• 30:45Speaker 03

  That was.

• 30:45Speaker 00

  Uh, the, I, I am, I am buying stock in the Texans. I've already said this, but I, I did bet them to win the AFC South at plus 400. So. I, I don't know. I did it at like halftime. So it might've changed before or after the game because this was a pretty, pretty big game swing. But yeah, I think, I think the Texans are gonna be there. I, I, and I don't, we're gonna get to the Colts. They stink. Titans, I guess they don't stink today. We shouldn't say they stink today. What is it right now? It's a plus 290. Yeah. So I should have pulled the, I think it was plus 500 before kickoff. And then I watched a half and I was like, yes, CJ Stroud's back, plus 400. Do it.

• 31:23Speaker 00

  Uh, okay. Next game. Let's go stateside for the first place Cleveland Browns. Browns 13, Ravens 10. This is the latest the Cleveland Browns have been in first place in the AFC North since week 10, 2014.

• 31:43Speaker 03

  Mm-hmm.

• 31:44Speaker 00

  And it's only week six, but still.

• 31:46Speaker 03

  It's pretty.

• 31:47Speaker 00

  They beat, they're, they're, they're tied at first, but they have the tiebreaker because they've beaten the Ravens and they've beaten the Steelers. The Cleveland Browns, I'll say this about them. I still don't know how good they are, but they clearly have a game plan and their game plan is thus. Drag you into deep water and then have Deshaun Watson in the fourth quarter drown you. That's what do they do? They basically are like, hey, for the first three quarters, Deshaun's not gonna be good, but our defense will be. And then in the fourth quarter, Deshaun Watson will be good and will win the game. Deshaun Watson now has, uh, three fourth quarter comeback wins this season. And that's his fourth game winning drive. They have four wins. Every single one, they've got a fourth, uh, uh, game winning drive from Deshaun Watson.

• 32:32Speaker 00

  He basically needs three quarters to get warmed up. He had 65 yards passing in the first three quarters, 99 in the, in the fourth quarter. That's their plan and their defense keeps them in every game until Deshaun's like, you know what? I've seen enough. I can actually complete a pass now. And then he starts completing passes and Jerry Judy showed up.

• 32:49Speaker 03

  Jerry Judy played pretty good today.

• 32:50Speaker 00

  Yeah. Uh, big, big reception.

• 32:52Speaker 03

  To go kind of along with that step, Big Cat, the Browns, they were, uh, they had won and covered in four straight division games going into today. And now it's five, five in a row doing that. That's at least the first time since 1994, if not way back in like the 1970s.

• 33:09Speaker 00

  Damn.

• 33:09Speaker 03

  So this is, this is rare territory for Cleveland.

• 33:13Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 33:13Speaker 03

  And, and the whole division's good, but the Browns somehow they're at the top of it right now.

• 33:18Speaker 00

  I, I think the whole division's good. I don't know if the whole division's good.

• 33:22Speaker 03

  I didn't say that the division was great.

• 33:24Speaker 00

  That's true.

• 33:25Speaker 03

  I said, I said.

• 33:26Speaker 00

  Cause I would've said no.

• 33:27Speaker 03

  I said the whole division, I don't know that there's a great team.

• 33:30Speaker 00

  Can I add an ish? They're good ish?

• 33:32Speaker 03

  There's not, there's not a great team in that division right now.

• 33:34Speaker 00

  One of these teams is going to potentially be great. The others are gonna probably stay in good ish.

• 33:39Speaker 03

  It would help if, uh, if the Ravens had Lamar.

• 33:42Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 33:42Speaker 03

  That's a big difference. The Ravens without Lamar, I, I think we can say they're not good.

• 33:47Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm. Yeah, I would say so. I mean, they, but they, listen, they, they, they're gonna, hopefully Lamar comes back. And they're gonna say, hey, we went one and one with Stu Huntley, which that's all you're looking for.

• 34:00Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 34:00Speaker 00

  I mean, like, Stu Huntley's not good, but he's good enough for a backup quarterback. If you can tread water.

• 34:06Speaker 03

  I think Declan Doyle ran to the bottom of his bag of tricks of stuff that he could do with Snoop at halftime today.

• 34:12Speaker 00

  Oh dude, he.

• 34:13Speaker 03

  Atlanta was, that was one thing. And then he's at, by halftime, he's like, I, I don't know what else to do.

• 34:17Speaker 00

  The, he is going to be a, a, a head coach in the next couple of years. That play where he had, he had two plays, the touchdown pass to Quavis was awesome. He basically ran a roundabout, like all the way around and was wide open. And then he ran, he put Quavis, their backup tight end as the left guard, but not on the line of scrimmage. So he was able to go downfield and he just blasted through the A gap for like a 30 yard, uh, pass. It was so sick.

• 34:41Speaker 03

  That's some shit that, that John Harbaugh tried to get out of the game.

• 34:43Speaker 00

  Yeah. Yeah.

• 34:44Speaker 03

  Remember that?

• 34:45Speaker 00

  Yeah. But in that, but that's, that's kinda like the Liam Cohen, I think might be doing it because he just wants to get shit on tape. Declan Doyle might be doing it because he wants to get a head coaching job, which makes sense.

• 34:54Speaker 03

  And it's cool.

• 34:54Speaker 00

  Yeah, and it's fucking cool.

• 34:55Speaker 03

  When it works, it's awesome. Yeah.

• 34:57Speaker 00

  But yeah, the Browns defense, that, it was, Carson Swenjder is awesome. He was, I feel like he was in on every tackle. They held Derrick Henry to 58 yards. And they, they basically were like, yeah, let's, let's bet that the, the Ravens, who I think this was, I saw the stat, I gotta pull it up. I think this was their 17th double digit lead that they've blown since 2018. 17th. Think about that. 17th double digit lead they've blown. Yeah. Since 2018, which is the most in the NFL over that span. So they're basically like, hey, it doesn't matter. We just gotta be, we gotta be in striking distance at the end of, in, in fourth quarter. The Ravens led the game for 18 minutes. The Browns led the game for zero seconds.

• 35:39Speaker 03

  Yeah. Yeah. Minter, I believe has three 10 point blown leads already.

• 35:44Speaker 00

  Yeah. So this is one of those situations where it's got, we're gonna, we're gonna talk about the Steelers where I, like, I know the Steelers ended up winning. But as I was watching that game, especially when they were down, I was like, this is just the Mike Tomlin Steelers where they're, they're favorites on the road and they shouldn't be. And, and it's like, you can't get that out of the, out of the building. It feels like you can't get the Harbaugh blown leads out of the building yet.

• 36:07Speaker 03

  Yeah, you might not be able to.

• 36:08Speaker 00

  You might need to do some type of.

• 36:10Speaker 03

  Seance.

• 36:10Speaker 00

  Yeah. Burn some sage. I don't even know. What do you do for that?

• 36:15Speaker 03

  I think you have.

• 36:16Speaker 00

  Change the drapes?

• 36:17Speaker 03

  I think sometimes you have to remember to just keep running Derrick Henry even when it's not working.

• 36:22Speaker 00

  Yeah. I mean, his fumble, that was, that's bad. Switched the game.

• 36:24Speaker 03

  It was bad. It was, yeah, big change. And he wasn't, again, great in short yardage situations today.

• 36:29Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 36:29Speaker 03

  But I think it's, it takes a special kind of, of coach to say like, I don't give a fuck that it's not working. We just kinda have to keep doing it and trust that eventually it's going to work and we'll kill the clock in the process.

• 36:42Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm. Did you guys see, uh, Jared Allen, uh, playing beer dye at the Booney lot before? That was pretty cool.

• 36:47Speaker 06

  That was cool.

• 36:48Speaker 00

  Cleveland, I mean, not so much the, the Guardians after losing the last two games, but Cleveland's having, having a little bit of a hot streak kink.

• 36:56Speaker 02

  Not today.

• 36:57Speaker 00

  Well, I mean, the Browns won. The first time they've been, this is the latest they've been in first place since 2014.

• 37:02Speaker 02

  If they had pulled a double win in Cleveland, that I would have had to give it respect.

• 37:08Speaker 00

  But you unfortunately, what about a two out of three win with Ohio State winning in Indiana?

• 37:13Speaker 02

  Nah.

• 37:13Speaker 00

  No.

• 37:14Speaker 02

  No.

• 37:14Speaker 00

  Okay, so.

• 37:15Speaker 02

  I was expecting they were favorites. The Browns one was good.

• 37:20Speaker 00

  Browns one was, I mean, it was great. They, and I think, where's Dom at in his, I think next week is a must win against the Titans? So he's, he's, he's at must win territory with the Titans because I mean, Browns could be five and two.

• 37:36Speaker 03

  You can't lose that game.

• 37:37Speaker 00

  It's five and two.

• 37:38Speaker 03

  That's how much of a must win.

• 37:39Speaker 00

  I mean.

• 37:39Speaker 03

  It truly is.

• 37:40Speaker 00

  Thankfully, the, the, the Titans are awful wins. So did the, yeah, must win. Must win against the Titans. And what would happen if they beat the Titans? They'd be in a little brother becomes big brother bowl against the Steelers. Holy shit.

• 37:55Speaker 03

  It's a little early for that, isn't it?

• 37:57Speaker 00

  Well, it would be the, it would, they would have swept them if they beat them, right?

• 38:02Speaker 03

  True.

• 38:03Speaker 00

  So would they be, they would be the big brother.

• 38:06Speaker 03

  Is that, is that how it's done? Like every time there's a season sweep? I feel like it, it takes longer than that. It takes years. It takes like a generation of growing up with an inferiority complex.

• 38:17Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 38:17Speaker 03

  To a better team.

• 38:18Speaker 00

  You're probably right.

• 38:19Speaker 03

  To truly flip that over.

• 38:20Speaker 00

  But hey, the.

• 38:21Speaker 03

  We have to have a stat that says like babies born in X year don't remember the Steelers beating the Browns.

• 38:26Speaker 00

  Listen, you're putting way too much sense on, on Dom's simulator because remember, if you forget, we had a week three game of the century.

• 38:34Speaker 03

  That is true. Yep. Okay. Good point.

• 38:35Speaker 00

  So there's, I don't think there's any rhyme or reason to anything that we're doing on this thing.

• 38:40Speaker 03

  Good point. So the Browns are officially in first place.

• 38:43Speaker 00

  Officially in first place.

• 38:44Speaker 03

  And especially doubly in first place if we count streak.

• 38:46Speaker 00

  Yeah, officially in first.

• 38:48Speaker 03

  And I guess, yeah, mentor, I, I think I said he lost 10, two games with a big lead because that, yeah.

• 38:55Speaker 00

  There's also something about, I, Mason Graham didn't play that like Mason Graham's going to come back. There, there's something about having like Cleveland having a, like a really good defense. And now maybe a quarterback who can win them games in the fourth quarter. They're, they're built in the Cleveland model. They're never going to make it look good. It's never going to be a sexy watch or something that you're like, oh, man, I can't wait to watch the Browns play football. Doesn't matter. Four and two, top of the AFC North. First time or latest they've ever done it since 2014.

• 39:26Speaker 00

  That's something.

• 39:26Speaker 03

  Do we have any more, any updates? Is there still like a contingent of Browns fans that watch the door?

• 39:31Speaker 00

  Uh, I don't think so.

• 39:33Speaker 03

  I don't think so either.

• 39:34Speaker 00

  Uh, Brad, Todd Monkin did say on, on Deshaun's performance today, we just got to flatten out some of the other ups and downs that we have. It's a wee thing, not an individual thing. He's probably talking about the first six drives of the, or five drives of the game in the first half being all punts. And only like two first downs. So that's probably what he's got to flatten out.

• 39:55Speaker 03

  Mm hmm.

• 39:56Speaker 00

  Uh, okay. Should we go to the next game? Bears 31 Falcons 23. Caleb Williams is back. That was fun. Uh, got tight a little bit in the, at the end of the game. Uh, because Dennis Allen put in a bunch of the backups for a stretch there, which I didn't really understand, but what?

• 40:13Speaker 02

  I thought in the cave, I heard you say a stress free win. What a game.

• 40:16Speaker 00

  It was, I mean, it was 30, it was 31 to seven and it was, we're just cruising. And then the Falcons were like, oh, you have your backups in? We can just throw it to Kyle Pitts and he'll score a touchdown. And then they got both of the two point conversions, but this game was about Caleb Williams looking awesome in his return. Kyler Gordon being an absolute menace and Dennis Allen being a demon on third down. Kyler Gordon had, I think it was the first time in 40 years that defensive back had three sacks and, and multiple forced fumbles. It basically, he was just, they could not figure out where he was coming from. He was incredible today.

• 40:53Speaker 00

  And so Kyler Gordon and then special teams was great as well. And it's good to have a win and Caleb was, looked awesome. He's 24 for 24, uh, in a clean pocket today.

• 41:03Speaker 03

  And, and what was his overall completion? It was.

• 41:05Speaker 00

  Eighty-three percent.

• 41:07Speaker 03

  The highest of his career?

• 41:08Speaker 00

  Eighty-three percent highest by.

• 41:09Speaker 03

  Was he like 12, 12 for 12, something like that to start the game?

• 41:12Speaker 00

  Yeah, he was, uh, highest by a bear in franchise history with over 30 attempts. He's, I think, leading the NFL in completion percentage right now. And, uh, he also was the third quarterback ever to have 50 touchdowns with less than 15 interceptions, joining Mahomes and Lamar. It was, it was just fun to have him back and it's like, yeah, this is an enjoyable watch and like Luther Burden got involved. Colson Loveland got, got involved, caught a touchdown. Uh, Roshan Johnson was, was good outside the fumble, which I, I know I said last week I wasn't, I want him to not guy back because I didn't like watching Roshan play. He played well.

• 41:48Speaker 00

  It was a fun win. Little tight. Didn't like how tight it got. Again, Dennis Allen throwing in some of the backups was, was a, was part of why it got tight and the Bears, their offense kind of stalled for a minute there in the third quarter. But a win's a win, a road win. And did you see that Kevin Stefanski said after that the Falcons had to go on a silent count?

• 42:09Speaker 03

  I did see that. He said that they, they practiced that all week because he had a pretty good feeling that there would be a lot of Bears fans.

• 42:14Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 42:15Speaker 03

  I didn't know that Chicago was like, it, like a, a big time, people retire from Chicago and move there.

• 42:20Speaker 00

  No, I think there's a lot of people traveling. Yeah. For that game. Yeah. I mean, that's, that's probably a, a top. I mean, when you're looking at games to go to. If you, you can basically bank on it being indoors. So you don't have to worry about weather.

• 42:33Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 42:34Speaker 00

  And go see Atlanta. But yeah, good win.

• 42:37Speaker 03

  There was also a moment, we all, we all called it in real time. At what point are the TV graphics people going to realize that you can't advance a muff punt?

• 42:45Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 42:46Speaker 03

  When is that going to happen?

• 42:47Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 42:47Speaker 03

  It's not like it's a new rule.

• 42:48Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 42:49Speaker 03

  And it happens, it feels like it happens every week. There, there'll be somebody that muffs a punt. Then the punting team recovers. They run into the end zone because their momentum's carrying themselves down there anyways. Uh, and then the graphic changes, the score changes. It says touchdown on the screen. And then the announcers have to be like, well, wait, wait, there, uh, it actually doesn't count. You, uh, the rule is you cannot advance a muff punt.

• 43:11Speaker 00

  Yeah, they put it up. They put the score up.

• 43:13Speaker 03

  This happens every week.

• 43:14Speaker 00

  Every single week.

• 43:14Speaker 03

  We need to have a discussion with all our graphics people out there.

• 43:17Speaker 00

  Yeah, I'd agree.

• 43:18Speaker 03

  Doesn't count. No ball.

• 43:19Speaker 00

  Doesn't count. But yeah, that was a big, that was a big swing in the game. Uh, do we have an update on Kendall Daniels? Cause that was scary when he went down and they, the, the game stopped for a while.

• 43:29Speaker 03

  The only quote I saw from Stefanski was that he's doing okay. He's in the hospital. I think he has movement in his extremities.

• 43:36Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 43:37Speaker 03

  I think that's what Stefanski said.

• 43:38Speaker 00

  That was a scary one. Cause it didn't seem like it was anything. And then it was like, oh shit, they came back and, cause he kind of sat up after it happened. And then they came back and the stretcher was there. It was like, oh, fuck. So that wasn't good. I also saw there were some people, uh, upset because I, I think maybe during the, the, uh, like break in action, there was a, uh, fuck the Packers chant going or Green Bay sucks chant going. I then saw that there was, which that, if that, when I first heard that, I was like, come on, there's a guy hurt. There was a Packers fan at the game who was just standing up and antagonizing the crowd. So he basically, he, he induced his own, uh, Green Bay sucks chant by himself.

• 44:21Speaker 03

  Got it.

• 44:22Speaker 00

  He just was standing up, pointing at people and like getting everyone to chant.

• 44:25Speaker 03

  I do admire the hater move of going to a Falcons game as a Packer fan because they're playing the Bears.

• 44:31Speaker 00

  Yeah. Hold on, I'll send it to you, uh, Max. Cause I was, I, you know, you know, on the show, we have to answer for anything that any of our fanbases ever do, which is only fair.

• 44:41Speaker 03

  Not Max.

• 44:42Speaker 00

  But so when I first saw it, I was like, shit, this is a bad look. If this is actually what happened. And then seeing this guy, I'm sending it to you right now. Seeing this guy go crazy. Max Delente. Almost sent it to Max Homa by accident.

• 44:58Speaker 03

  I've done that.

• 44:59Speaker 00

  Okay. Sending you Max. They, uh, I also thought the Bears had a good game plan of like, you know how you can stop Bajon? Just have the ball in offense the whole time.

• 45:09Speaker 03

  Mm hmm.

• 45:10Speaker 00

  Because that, I was very worried about Bajon in this game and Michael Pennix did not have a, a great game, especially in the first half. They were like, I, I think he had like three yards halfway through. See this guy? He was basically, he was just standing up.

• 45:26Speaker 00

  He was getting everyone to chant Green Bay sucks at him. So that's probably where it came from. Because I do, I would say, uh, losing, getting absolutely smoked by the Packers and then having that be a chant unsolicited in Atlanta the next week. When the Bears are playing well would be lame, but that guy was, was basically being the heel to the entire crowd.

• 45:49Speaker 03

  I, I really, I do respect it. Do you think he, when he saw the schedule come out, I'm assuming he lives in Atlanta. Do you think he circled that game? He's like, I'm going to go to it no matter what?

• 45:57Speaker 00

  Probably.

• 45:57Speaker 03

  Just to fuck with Bears fans? Or do you think he waited until after the win? And then he's like, they're in town next weekend. I gotta go remind them.

• 46:04Speaker 00

  Yeah, I gotta go do it.

• 46:05Speaker 03

  I, I, I approve.

• 46:06Speaker 00

  Yeah. Uh, what do you guys think of the Falcons overall going forward?

• 46:10Speaker 03

  I think that they have to figure out a way to, I, I know that the Bears had the ball and the Falcons were in a deep, deep hole for pretty much right off the bat.

• 46:17Speaker 00

  Mm hmm.

• 46:18Speaker 03

  But to kind of take Bajon out of it feels like you're not giving yourself a chance to even try to get back in the game.

• 46:25Speaker 00

  Yeah. Yeah.

• 46:26Speaker 03

  I know that, I know that you have to go for chunk plays and all that. When you're down, you have to, it, it limits the playbook, but he's your most explosive player, even when he's just running the ball.

• 46:34Speaker 00

  Yeah. He only ran the ball nine times.

• 46:36Speaker 03

  Nine times.

• 46:36Speaker 00

  Six point eight yards for carry, but it was, it did feel like it was, uh, 14, nothing in the blink of an eye.

• 46:43Speaker 03

  Yeah, it was over pretty quickly.

• 46:44Speaker 00

  Uh, so that, that was definitely a benefit to the Bears. I also, it was just a satisfying win because there was a lot of noise this week about, you know, Ben Johnson getting humbled. I think our guy, we gotta have our guy stink back on, but he had some choice words for, I don't think Ben Johnson forgot how to coach because he lost one game to the Packers. But there was a lot of people who wanted to dump on him. So it's fun and Caleb's back and he saw the, he said afterwards, he saw the graphic, uh, on get up. It was just Falcons across the board. So.

• 47:14Speaker 03

  Everybody picked, picked the Falcons this?

• 47:15Speaker 00

  Yeah, on get up, I guess. I missed that. I didn't even know they did picks on, yeah. I didn't even know they did picks.

• 47:22Speaker 03

  Disappointed Greenie.

• 47:23Speaker 00

  Yeah. Did you think Caleb looked good, Hank?

• 47:27Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 47:28Speaker 04

  I think the Bears should be excited. Team looks good.

• 47:31Speaker 00

  Oh, I see what you're doing.

• 47:33Speaker 03

  Hank, were you?

• 47:34Speaker 00

  Yeah, look at this.

• 47:35Speaker 03

  Hank, were you glad?

• 47:36Speaker 00

  This is Orlovsky, Schrager. Oh, Greenie doesn't make picks? What is he not allowed to make picks?

• 47:41Speaker 03

  He might, he might abstain, yeah.

• 47:44Speaker 00

  What a nerd.

• 47:44Speaker 03

  No, no, I think, no, I think he saves his pick for countdown.

• 47:48Speaker 00

  Oh, okay.

• 47:49Speaker 03

  I think. He keeps us wanting more. It's like a little appetizer for Greenie's pick.

• 47:53Speaker 00

  I gotta say, I haven't tuned into Countdown in forever.

• 47:56Speaker 03

  No.

• 47:57Speaker 00

  I don't remember the last time I looked, I watched.

• 47:59Speaker 04

  There's games on now.

• 48:00Speaker 00

  Yeah. Thanks Hank. You did that Hank.

• 48:04Speaker 04

  Been doing it for years.

• 48:05Speaker 00

  Yeah. Okay.

• 48:06Speaker 03

  So yeah, Hank, would you have rather that the, the Bears won or lost this game?

• 48:11Speaker 04

  No, I was actually kind of disappointed that they, they almost like had an all time choke during this game. Because I would have rather than just kept the lead and I, they still, they still are and they still should be. But I, I want Bears fans riding as high as they possibly can be riding.

• 48:26Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 48:27Speaker 04

  Going into Thursday.

• 48:28Speaker 03

  You can't wait.

• 48:29Speaker 04

  So you can just walk in there and crush their dreams.

• 48:31Speaker 00

  You go to the game?

• 48:33Speaker 04

  I think so.

• 48:34Speaker 00

  Yeah. You get tickets?

• 48:35Speaker 04

  I don't have tickets yet.

• 48:36Speaker 00

  Oh, okay.

• 48:36Speaker 03

  But you just, you think that you're going.

• 48:38Speaker 04

  Mentally, I'm planning.

• 48:39Speaker 00

  Mentally, you're, you're there.

• 48:40Speaker 04

  I've said yes to like five different tailgating. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll be there. I'll cheer up for.

• 48:44Speaker 03

  Theoretically, you'd like to go.

• 48:45Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 48:47Speaker 03

  Are you waiting for somebody to give you tickets?

• 48:49Speaker 04

  No, no.

• 48:49Speaker 03

  Is that what this is right now?

• 48:50Speaker 04

  No, I, I, I didn't, I did not, I did not.

• 48:53Speaker 03

  Hank, you want, you want tickets?

• 48:54Speaker 04

  I was not gonna bring this up on the show.

• 48:56Speaker 03

  Okay. I'll give you tickets if you want tickets.

• 48:59Speaker 04

  Oh, we have tick picks. So if I need tickets, I'll just use them.

• 49:01Speaker 00

  Yeah, you just buy them on tick pick.

• 49:02Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 49:03Speaker 00

  Yeah, I mean, there was a, when the, when the Falcons had the ball after that furious comeback. Thank God for Kyler Gordon because he was incredible. And he, that, that was a moment where I was like, what the fuck is happening? Cause it was, I did say stress free for, and it felt like it. And then it was like, wait a second, we gotta pay attention. Took it off sound. Uh, okay. Before we get to the next game, uh, Chevy, football season is here and whether you're grinding through the week or gearing up for kickoff. There's one ride that's always game ready. It's the Chevy Silverado. There's a reason Chevy's called the heartbeat of America. And Silverado keeps that heartbeat strong. Whether you're towing, hauling or tailgating, Silverado lets you show up strong and tackle any task.

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• 51:27Speaker 00

  Okay. Steelers 20, 26, Bucks 19. The Bucks blew this one. The Bucks had them. The Steelers looked bad for, uh, a first, the first half especially. Mike McCarthy rolled his ankle. I think it was just a fat injury.

• 51:47Speaker 03

  I said, I saw that he might've gotten stepped on.

• 51:50Speaker 00

  Ah.

• 51:51Speaker 03

  Which is never a good thing if, if your injury is described like a bag of coke that you hate.

• 51:56Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah.

• 51:57Speaker 03

  He's apparently, it was on the rush to go to the locker room.

• 52:00Speaker 00

  Got it.

• 52:01Speaker 03

  He got cleated and then he, he tried to waddle away, waddle it off. And then they're like, sir, we need to check you in the blue tent because that's the only place where doctors are.

• 52:10Speaker 00

  So I think it was just a fat injury and unfortunately, the reason why I'm saying that is we had, uh, two of them in the cave today. Max stood up at one point in the cave and just said, I just tore my ACL. And Max, I didn't say it at the time, but I actually did the exact same thing like an hour before. I stood up and I was like, well, there goes my MCL. It's gone. It's, I, I have nothing left in my knee. It's gone. I don't know what happened. I just stood up and, and I'm fat and I stood up too fast. And I think that's probably what happened with Mike McCarthy. He rolled his fat. Sometimes you can just like tweak your fat to the point where you're like, I'm never gonna walk again. And I think that's what Mike McCarthy was doing when he was hobbling around and going into the blue tent.

• 52:53Speaker 03

  Your fat can also fall asleep too.

• 52:54Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah.

• 52:55Speaker 03

  Which is just, just as deadly.

• 52:57Speaker 00

  Yes, absolutely.

• 52:58Speaker 03

  You got a case of numb fat.

• 52:59Speaker 00

  The dormant fat.

• 53:01Speaker 03

  Really dangerous. But yeah, Mike McCarthy walking out of the blue injury tent was, uh, it was very funny. I don't know, I don't know what they did in there. Like if they, there's no x-ray machine in there. So I don't know what they were looking. They just had a doctor tell him, take your, take your shoe off real quick. Let me take a look.

• 53:15Speaker 00

  I think they probably just gave him a sticker and they're like, hey, get back out there, big guy.

• 53:19Speaker 03

  A Band-Aid?

• 53:20Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 53:20Speaker 03

  They, someone kissed it?

• 53:21Speaker 00

  Gave him a lollipop?

• 53:22Speaker 03

  Jersey.

• 53:22Speaker 00

  Said, Mike, we need you for the second half. Get it back out there, big guy.

• 53:25Speaker 03

  Jersey Jerry would've been like, let me see the tootsies and give him a little smooch.

• 53:28Speaker 00

  I would actually imagine knowing,

• 53:32Speaker 00

  Mike McCarthy, they probably did pull out like the, the chart for the kids being like, tell us where it hurt. Like what, what scale? One to 10? Where, how much does it hurt right now, Mike?

• 53:42Speaker 03

  I think he probably, he probably just did it for the lollipop.

• 53:44Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 53:44Speaker 03

  He knows that you get examined by the doctor.

• 53:46Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 53:47Speaker 03

  Here you go. Here's a blow pop, Mike.

• 53:48Speaker 00

  Sticker and a lollipop, Mike McCarthy. But yeah, this was, uh, the Bucks or the Steelers looking bad. And then their defense being opportunistic, Aaron Rodgers, Jeremy Bernard is good. Can we just say that?

• 54:01Speaker 03

  Sometimes.

• 54:02Speaker 00

  Yeah, but he had a good game and, and he, he had, it feels like he's in the trust tree. He, he went out and then he's back in. He did fuck up.

• 54:08Speaker 03

  He jumped out of the trust tree early in the game.

• 54:11Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 54:11Speaker 03

  And it was bad. It was a bad fuck up. It was, I think it was third down and, um, it was in the third or fourth down. He ran past the chains, turned around, caught the ball and then continued to run backwards to get around one defender that was trying to tackle him. And turned a first down into like being two, three yards short of the first down. And so they had to, it was either a turnover on downs immediately or they had to punt the ball away after that. And it was one of the dumbest plays, but then he made up for it towards the end of the game.

• 54:39Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 54:39Speaker 03

  He's electric when he has the ball.

• 54:40Speaker 00

  You could see that Rodgers, he went back in the trust tree because he did trust him at the end of the game to score that touchdown. And I, I mean, it was like one of those situations where the Bucks almost, they were almost able to be like, can we hide Jalen Daniels isn't probably the best starting quarterback for four quarters? And you got so close and then the fourth quarter happened and he just started throwing picks. What, I mean, Zach, this has been the Bucks season so far is like these games that you're gonna look back and say, oh my God, we were up 16 to three up. We were up on the Browns, like all these things that are, are what ifs now.

• 55:15Speaker 04

  Yeah, we should've won this game. We had it until we didn't have it. Uh, he, Jalen's been holding it down at, at quarterback for the last couple of weeks.

• 55:24Speaker 04

  He's not the one though. You know, hopefully we get Baker back soon. Uh, yeah, it wasn't fun. I bought in too heavy after the win last week. Like a silly fan. I got all excited just, I should've known this was.

• 55:35Speaker 00

  You're silly.

• 55:36Speaker 04

  Yeah, it was silly. It was silly. I, I did the silly fan thing where it's like, oh, look, we just gotta win. We could get more. That's just not true. Uh.

• 55:43Speaker 00

  But you had to think during this game, you're like, we're good, we're, we look good. We're gonna win.

• 55:47Speaker 04

  The entire game was like, all right, this is cool. All right, now we got two wins. I, which is also dumb because I was counting it in my brain when I shouldn't have.

• 55:53Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah.

• 55:54Speaker 04

  Yeah, it was, it was kind of lame. Kind of sucked. Absolutely blew it.

• 55:58Speaker 03

  I think these types of losses happen from, you know, it's not super uncommon across the league, but what is super uncommon is the Steelers coming back from that big of a deficit.

• 56:06Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 56:07Speaker 03

  It had been 31 consecutive games that they trailed by 10 or more points without a win for the Steelers.

• 56:12Speaker 04

  Late game pick was tough. That, uh, Jacob Parish pass interference where he kind of fell down. That was huge. I think if that didn't happen, maybe different outcome for the game, but all right, we got two division games coming up.

• 56:22Speaker 00

  Yeah, win those.

• 56:23Speaker 04

  And I mean, hey.

• 56:24Speaker 00

  Win those. Yeah. It was the first time, uh, since 1992, Neil O'Donnell, that the Steelers won a game.

• 56:30Speaker 03

  That many games.

• 56:30Speaker 00

  Trailing, uh, 13 in the fourth quarter. It was Aaron Rodgers' fourth, fourth quarter, uh, trailing by 13 or more comeback in his career. The other three were at the Packers. So that part is different for the Steelers. But it, to Jersey Jerry's credit, he kept on saying, he's like, we're just gonna get a turnover at some point. We're gonna get a turnover and it's gonna be fine. We're gonna get a turnover. And then it just happened. And Todd Bowles said after the game, you never have the game in control until it's over. I would say that Todd Bowles never has the game under control ever.

• 57:01Speaker 03

  Yeah, no, that's Todd Bowles's way of saying, like, you probably shouldn't have said that, Todd. I don't know if he feels that way to you. He only feels in control of the game when he's done with the game.

• 57:11Speaker 00

  Right.

• 57:11Speaker 03

  So, yeah, so ipso facto, he has never felt in control.

• 57:14Speaker 00

  Correct.

• 57:15Speaker 04

  I think Todd Bowles is using a quote generator. I think he's just spamming generate before these press conferences and just saying whatever comes up on his phone.

• 57:21Speaker 00

  Todd Bowles is so bad at coaching that, uh, when it was overtime and the Steelers scored and went up seven. And then we were talking about the, the, uh, Bucks potentially scoring and going for two. PFT said, are you sure, Todd Bowles? And yes, I am sure, but the fact that that question was lobbed is a testament to how bad Todd, but like, it's not a hundred percent.

• 57:44Speaker 03

  We could see.

• 57:45Speaker 00

  It's not a hundred percent.

• 57:46Speaker 03

  We could see Todd Bowles if, if like, for whatever reason, he, he didn't have a lot of confidence in his, uh, short yard. Maybe it took him like eight tries to get into the end zone and a, a goal line situation and there was a penalty that extended it. And then they finally score. You could see Todd being like, I didn't really trust our goal to go offense. So, uh, we opted to go for the tie.

• 58:05Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 58:06Speaker 04

  He definitely doesn't make the decision right away. Like they'll pan to the sideline.

• 58:09Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 58:09Speaker 04

  You'll see him think and then look to somebody else to make the call and then inevitably hopefully.

• 58:14Speaker 03

  Somebody else have a strong opinion about this.

• 58:16Speaker 00

  Yeah, I, I joked about him punting on fourth down at the end of the game in overtime. And I was like joking, but also he could've. Todd Bowles.

• 58:25Speaker 03

  Try to get a turnover.

• 58:27Speaker 00

  It is, you are in like a torture season right now because you're, you one win and you have all these games that you're gonna, if you, if you can rattle off a couple of wins, you're just gonna keep looking back and being like, well, what if we had beaten the Browns? What if we beaten the Steelers up 13 in the fourth quarter? All this shit.

• 58:44Speaker 06

  We go. It'll be okay.

• 58:46Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 58:46Speaker 06

  It might not be okay, but.

• 58:47Speaker 00

  Is Baker gonna come back?

• 58:48Speaker 06

  I think, uh, so he was, there's, I haven't seen anything online after the game was looking like for next week. I know he was doubtful this week, probably maybe doubtful next week. He could. So we'll look towards like the top of the week to find out. I would like him to, if he's healthy though. I don't want him to just do it, just to do it. If the film's good though, yeah, give it a shot.

• 59:07Speaker 00

  He's the jail, he's the same thing we said about, uh, Stu Huntley. Jalen Daniels went one and one. That's great. You, you need to just get away now.

• 59:16Speaker 06

  I will say Jalen Daniels wasn't a fantastic job most of the game until the end. He was, he does just get rid of it. He does like, all right, a couple of seconds, just know your job, get rid of the ball, be done. That was cool, but.

• 59:26Speaker 00

  He should run more too. I feel like there was a couple of times where it's like, dude, just run. And he's just like, no, I'm gonna wait until I can throw it.

• 59:32Speaker 03

  I think he got, I think he took a couple of shots, uh, last week on Thursday. And I think, I, I think somebody this week got to him and like, hey, we can't have you get knocked out of the game.

• 59:42Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 59:43Speaker 03

  We'd be in a bad spot. But you're right. He's more dynamic and he's a better player when he does have that. I think if anything, he's made himself a lot of money the last couple of weeks. He's going to be a backup quarterback.

• 59:53Speaker 00

  Yeah, he's a backup.

• 59:53Speaker 03

  He's gonna be a solid backup quarterback, at least for the next five years.

• 59:56Speaker 00

  Also shout out DK. He, he had a nice game.

• 59:58Speaker 03

  Really good game.

• 59:59Speaker 00

  Cause it's, it feels like it's been a, like the Steelers have some weapons now on offense. It's not DK, Jeremy Bernard, Jalen Warren. I love whenever Darnell Washington gets the ball, cause it's just so funny to watch. He's just so much bigger than everyone. He basically looks like those viral videos when they're, when it's like this 350 pound eighth grader in Georgia is gonna be the top recruit, uh, like offensive lineman. And he's just standing next to like kids that are five, six. That's what, that's what Darnell Washington looks like on an NFL football field. It's fun to watch.

• 1:00:35Speaker 03

  Yeah. He, he makes, uh, he makes DK look like the skinny one.

• 1:00:38Speaker 00

  Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Uh, you guys wanna do Patriots, Jets?

• 1:00:42Speaker 06

  Yeah, sure.

• 1:00:44Speaker 03

  Your holes remain intact?

• 1:00:45Speaker 00

  Patriots 26, Jets 19.

• 1:00:48Speaker 02

  Never doubt.

• 1:00:50Speaker 00

  Ever?

• 1:00:52Speaker 00

  Yeah, I, if we're gonna do the, when you corrected me saying I said it was gonna be, it was a no sweat. When you were saying some, this is getting weird and I'm.

• 1:01:01Speaker 02

  Yeah, the stars were aligning for, for, for it getting weird, but thankfully it was the Jets.

• 1:01:05Speaker 00

  But you, you had, there was doubt that had crept in your head.

• 1:01:09Speaker 02

  A very, very small amount of doubt, only because of the plays that the Patriots are making.

• 1:01:13Speaker 00

  Okay. Well, that, so that's doubt. What, how's that not doubt? That's literally, so you're saying because of what you were watching on the field, you had a little doubt.

• 1:01:23Speaker 02

  But sometimes it's that, it's sometimes it's the way the other team's playing. You're like, oh, this team is playing good enough to beat us. This game was not the case, like not that case. It was just like, if we make every mistake, we might lose this game. And we made like three or four mistakes where it's like, what's going on? This is getting weird.

• 1:01:40Speaker 00

  That sounds like doubt. You just described doubt.

• 1:01:42Speaker 02

  I was never, there was never doubt.

• 1:01:43Speaker 03

  Okay. Sometimes teams make mistakes. That's, that's part of football.

• 1:01:46Speaker 02

  But against the Jets, you have to make like a lot, a lot, a lot of mistakes.

• 1:01:49Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:01:50Speaker 02

  And they tried.

• 1:01:51Speaker 00

  Memes?

• 1:01:55Speaker 03

  Well, yeah, uh, the second half, but the Jets a hundred percent outplayed in the first half. Like, you keep saying it's the Jets. You got outplayed in the.

• 1:02:03Speaker 02

  You guys had a 14 minute time of possession. We had a minute 30, we were up seven, three. Like you guys held the ball for longer for sure. But I don't know about outplayed.

• 1:02:13Speaker 03

  In the first half? A hundred percent. They had two completions.

• 1:02:16Speaker 00

  Is that true?

• 1:02:17Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:02:18Speaker 02

  And one of them for a touchdown.

• 1:02:20Speaker 03

  They had two completions and then they went three and out on the two minute drill. That's what, that's what fuck, that fucked the entire game. They went three and out, gave it right back to them. They scored another touchdown and they were down the rest of the game.

• 1:02:32Speaker 00

  Well, you were, you were down 17, three at half. So you can't say it was like.

• 1:02:37Speaker 02

  We got outplayed, but we're up 17, three at half.

• 1:02:40Speaker 00

  Yeah. Also.

• 1:02:41Speaker 03

  Everything until that, that three and out.

• 1:02:43Speaker 00

  Yeah. Aaron Glenn, what do we think about him, uh, doing a halftime interview saying, good news is we've got the ball. And then they immediately flashed to the Patriots, starting the second half with the ball.

• 1:02:55Speaker 03

  I think he was very optimistic and we got the ball right back and scored on the next drive.

• 1:03:00Speaker 00

  Trust his guys make the shot.

• 1:03:01Speaker 03

  Trust his guys.

• 1:03:01Speaker 00

  We're gonna get the ball.

• 1:03:02Speaker 03

  Yeah, we're gonna get the ball. He got the ball and then they scored.

• 1:03:05Speaker 00

  Did he say, we're getting the ball or?

• 1:03:06Speaker 03

  He said, the good thing is we get the ball.

• 1:03:10Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:03:10Speaker 02

  Well, at some point, like he was right. Like at some point they're gonna get the ball in the second half.

• 1:03:14Speaker 03

  Mm-hmm. And they got it back immediately.

• 1:03:17Speaker 00

  So he was right. So he's.

• 1:03:17Speaker 03

  He was right. And he scored immediately.

• 1:03:20Speaker 00

  That's what, that's the power of optimism.

• 1:03:21Speaker 03

  Yeah. That, that's optimism.

• 1:03:25Speaker 00

  Hank, how do you feel? By the way, I think Drake may have played outstanding in the second half today. Really good football.

• 1:03:32Speaker 02

  He played good in the first half too.

• 1:03:34Speaker 00

  How, well, you guys were down pretty much barely winning 10 to three until it was 17 to three before halftime.

• 1:03:40Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 1:03:40Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm. But is there something going on with AJ Brown?

• 1:03:45Speaker 02

  Listen, AJ Brown, he was hurt. He's used to catching under thrown balls. It's gonna take some time for him and Drake May to get comfortable. And he was rusty.

• 1:03:56Speaker 00

  The passes are too good is what you're saying.

• 1:03:58Speaker 02

  It's gonna take some time for, for, yes. Like he's gonna take some time for him to get used to like completing catches that hit his chest.

• 1:04:05Speaker 00

  Okay. Max has a question.

• 1:04:06Speaker 02

  Christopher.

• 1:04:07Speaker 06

  Uh, what about all the Patriots fans just saying, oh, last year was a fluke because he didn't wanna play with Jalen Hurts and then he did the exact same thing today?

• 1:04:17Speaker 00

  What would be the exact same?

• 1:04:18Speaker 02

  Yeah, I don't know what you're talking about.

• 1:04:19Speaker 06

  That he just dropped every pass.

• 1:04:20Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:04:21Speaker 06

  And he alligator armed a deep ball that if he just stuck his arms out.

• 1:04:25Speaker 00

  Overthrown by a mile.

• 1:04:27Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm. No, he, he looked like.

• 1:04:29Speaker 06

  Bad.

• 1:04:30Speaker 02

  Comically bad. Like the, the, the onside kick attempt at the end of the game where it just hit.

• 1:04:36Speaker 00

  Why'd they put him on hands team? Just see one go through the net?

• 1:04:39Speaker 02

  It seemed like they kept trying to do that. Like he, he dropped a few and then the, the first play of the next drive was like, they were going to him. They were going to him. They were trying to get him warmed up. Again, it's, it's gonna take time. Like it's, it's basically his first game. Cause he got hurt early in the first game. So we're, we're, we're, we're basically in the preseason with, with AJ Brown. We seem to be, you know.

• 1:04:56Speaker 00

  Do you think the kicker?

• 1:04:57Speaker 02

  Comfortable.

• 1:04:58Speaker 00

  Was he kicking for the Jets too? That thing?

• 1:04:59Speaker 03

  There was a second.

• 1:05:00Speaker 06

  It was the second half.

• 1:05:01Speaker 03

  Yeah, it was the second half.

• 1:05:01Speaker 02

  No, I'm saying, but it was the first game.

• 1:05:03Speaker 06

  But you said early in the first game.

• 1:05:06Speaker 02

  Early.

• 1:05:07Speaker 06

  He got hurt in the second half.

• 1:05:09Speaker 00

  In the second half of the first.

• 1:05:10Speaker 02

  Yeah. But like early.

• 1:05:11Speaker 00

  He's also played a lot of football.

• 1:05:12Speaker 03

  Early in the season?

• 1:05:14Speaker 02

  Early in the game.

• 1:05:15Speaker 06

  And he stunk last year and everyone was like, oh yeah, that's just because Jalen Hurts. And then he stunk again today.

• 1:05:20Speaker 02

  That would be a cause of concern if he looks this bad going, moving forward. Cause he looked horrible.

• 1:05:25Speaker 00

  What do you think about him not celebrating with his teammates when they scored a touchdown? That's true?

• 1:05:30Speaker 02

  I didn't see that.

• 1:05:31Speaker 00

  Max forwarded that to my desk.

• 1:05:32Speaker 03

  Oh my God.

• 1:05:33Speaker 06

  It was just something that came across my desk. So I thought maybe it would also be of interest to PFT's desk.

• 1:05:39Speaker 00

  Wait, can I see this?

• 1:05:40Speaker 03

  Can I forward it across your desk?

• 1:05:43Speaker 02

  One moment. I don't know. I'm actually too scared to forward that across my desk.

• 1:05:48Speaker 00

  Memes, how are you feeling overall?

• 1:05:51Speaker 03

  We stink. But, but I mean, you, they could have won this game today.

• 1:05:56Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:05:57Speaker 02

  True.

• 1:05:57Speaker 03

  They just couldn't execute. What do you mean true? They could've.

• 1:06:00Speaker 02

  I agree. I'm agreeing with you. I said true. Sorry.

• 1:06:06Speaker 00

  Let it out, memes.

• 1:06:07Speaker 03

  No, it's all right. They could've won the game.

• 1:06:09Speaker 00

  Why?

• 1:06:09Speaker 02

  Agreed.

• 1:06:10Speaker 03

  They didn't execute.

• 1:06:13Speaker 02

  Facts. 100.

• 1:06:16Speaker 00

  Wait, memes, don't let him.

• 1:06:18Speaker 02

  I'm agreeing with him.

• 1:06:21Speaker 00

  Do you think you've, you had a team that was good enough to win today?

• 1:06:25Speaker 03

  I think, I think we have the guys that are good enough to win.

• 1:06:28Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 1:06:29Speaker 06

  I'm excited for Thursday night.

• 1:06:30Speaker 00

  Thursday night should be fun.

• 1:06:31Speaker 02

  So fun.

• 1:06:32Speaker 00

  Where, where's the, where's?

• 1:06:35Speaker 02

  Whose line is it anyway?

• 1:06:36Speaker 00

  I don't know where, uh.

• 1:06:40Speaker 03

  Three and a half.

• 1:06:41Speaker 00

  I would say two and a half.

• 1:06:43Speaker 06

  Want me to pull it up?

• 1:06:44Speaker 00

  Sure.

• 1:06:45Speaker 06

  I'll pull it up if you guys have some on.

• 1:06:48Speaker 02

  Patriots plus line is gonna be fantastic.

• 1:06:50Speaker 06

  Two and a half.

• 1:06:51Speaker 02

  Ooh.

• 1:06:51Speaker 00

  Two and a half. Okay.

• 1:06:54Speaker 06

  Plus 130 for the money.

• 1:06:55Speaker 00

  What about your offensive line, Hank?

• 1:06:57Speaker 02

  Uh, we, we had about seven, seven injuries. We have five offensive linemen hurt. We got three more that got hurt today. That's a major concern. It felt like every drive we were, someone was going down with an injury.

• 1:07:12Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:07:13Speaker 02

  So yeah, that, that will be a, uh, something we, we just gotta get the ball quick.

• 1:07:20Speaker 06

  Preach.

• 1:07:20Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm. Get the ball fast.

• 1:07:22Speaker 02

  Whoa, whoa.

• 1:07:23Speaker 00

  What?

• 1:07:24Speaker 02

  I don't get mad when people agree with me.

• 1:07:26Speaker 06

  Oh, got it.

• 1:07:28Speaker 00

  Oh, you're talking about memes?

• 1:07:30Speaker 03

  Well, you're cutting me off while I was talking.

• 1:07:32Speaker 02

  True.

• 1:07:32Speaker 00

  You weren't doing that. Memes, I'm gonna give you the floor.

• 1:07:36Speaker 03

  Hey, just cut you off while you were talking.

• 1:07:38Speaker 02

  True.

• 1:07:39Speaker 03

  And he's doing it now.

• 1:07:39Speaker 02

  True.

• 1:07:40Speaker 00

  Memes, the floor is yours.

• 1:07:42Speaker 03

  No, I don't think the floor is mine.

• 1:07:43Speaker 00

  Stop cutting me off, Hank. It's your floor.

• 1:07:45Speaker 02

  Memes, you got it.

• 1:07:47Speaker 00

  It's your floor, memes.

• 1:07:48Speaker 03

  I don't think it's my floor.

• 1:07:49Speaker 00

  Go. Take the floor, memes.

• 1:07:51Speaker 03

  I don't, I.

• 1:07:52Speaker 00

  This, if Hank cuts you off.

• 1:07:53Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:07:54Speaker 00

  I'm gonna cut him off.

• 1:07:58Speaker 06

  They could have won.

• 1:08:03Speaker 06

  And now he's doing hand signals.

• 1:08:05Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:08:06Speaker 03

  He's doing.

• 1:08:07Speaker 00

  Wait, is he not allowed to exist?

• 1:08:09Speaker 03

  He's doing hand signals.

• 1:08:10Speaker 00

  He's not cutting you off.

• 1:08:11Speaker 06

  Doing hand signals. They could have won. The Patriots have the better coach.

• 1:08:19Speaker 06

  That's that's really it?

• 1:08:20Speaker 00

  Mike, Mike Vrabel did say after the game that the Patriots were lucky to win. So that sounds like there might have been a little doubt.

• 1:08:29Speaker 02

  It was again, it's like, it was very lucky that we were playing the Jets. Like if we were playing a better team, we lose that game. We won in spite of ourselves. But but in NFL, like a win's a win. You take it however you can get. Should have covered, missed a fucking extra point, knew it was gonna come back to cost us. It came back to cost us. Not covering that game was criminal because we we should have won by like 30.

• 1:08:54Speaker 06

  You didn't. Saw that sentiment a lot. You didn't.

• 1:08:59Speaker 02

  Correct.

• 1:09:01Speaker 06

  So you can't say should have. Jets should have won. You didn't.

• 1:09:06Speaker 02

  Okay, we could have won by 30. We could have covered.

• 1:09:11Speaker 06

  Jets could have won by 30.

• 1:09:13Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:09:13Speaker 02

  Facts.

• 1:09:14Speaker 00

  But you didn't.

• 1:09:14Speaker 06

  We scored on the first drive of the game.

• 1:09:16Speaker 02

  True.

• 1:09:16Speaker 06

  We had a phantom pass interference call. Bullshit.

• 1:09:19Speaker 02

  Facts.

• 1:09:20Speaker 00

  Omar Cooper looked good.

• 1:09:21Speaker 06

  Omar Cooper looked great.

• 1:09:22Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:09:23Speaker 03

  Really good.

• 1:09:23Speaker 06

  Jets skilled position players when they're fully healthy, like.

• 1:09:26Speaker 00

  Siddiq.

• 1:09:27Speaker 06

  Yeah. Siddiq, Mason Taylor, Omar Cooper, Garrett Wilson, and A.D. Mitchell. Like, if Gino gets a ball out and Frank Reich actually dials something up.

• 1:09:41Speaker 06

  Touchdown.

• 1:09:42Speaker 02

  True.

• 1:09:43Speaker 00

  Uh, Hank. Hank's being such a shit to you memes. I don't like it.

• 1:09:47Speaker 03

  You said that.

• 1:09:48Speaker 00

  I don't like it.

• 1:09:48Speaker 03

  He's being such a shit. That you guys would have lost, but it was the Jets.

• 1:09:52Speaker 02

  If that happens Thursday night, we're losing.

• 1:09:54Speaker 00

  Memes, I'll say this.

• 1:09:55Speaker 03

  I'm just gonna list some teams and you tell me if you were playing against those teams today, if they would have beat you.

• 1:10:01Speaker 02

  Let's do this. I like this exercise.

• 1:10:03Speaker 03

  The Bills.

• 1:10:03Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:10:05Speaker 00

  They would have beaten you.

• 1:10:05Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:10:06Speaker 03

  Uh, the Ravens.

• 1:10:07Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:10:09Speaker 03

  The Bears.

• 1:10:10Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:10:11Speaker 03

  The Broncos.

• 1:10:13Speaker 02

  Definitely.

• 1:10:14Speaker 03

  The Browns.

• 1:10:15Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:10:17Speaker 00

  Whoa.

• 1:10:18Speaker 03

  The Dolphins in Miami.

• 1:10:20Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:10:21Speaker 03

  Sunny day.

• 1:10:21Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 1:10:22Speaker 00

  What about the Titans?

• 1:10:25Speaker 02

  Hmm. Yeah, I mean, the way they played today. Yeah.

• 1:10:29Speaker 03

  Cardinals.

• 1:10:30Speaker 02

  Definitely.

• 1:10:31Speaker 03

  The Colts.

• 1:10:33Speaker 02

  Is Anthony Richardson quarterback?

• 1:10:35Speaker 03

  No, it's uh, it's Andrew Luck and but the the balls are being provided by the Colts.

• 1:10:40Speaker 02

  Then yes.

• 1:10:42Speaker 03

  The Jets.

• 1:10:44Speaker 02

  No.

• 1:10:46Speaker 03

  Is there any other team?

• 1:10:49Speaker 02

  No.

• 1:10:49Speaker 03

  Chargers. Come on.

• 1:10:52Speaker 02

  I don't.

• 1:10:54Speaker 02

  I'll say no. I'll say no. Chargers. Yeah, they're a fucking joke. They can't do anything.

• 1:11:00Speaker 00

  I don't think the Jets are that bad memes.

• 1:11:02Speaker 02

  Me neither.

• 1:11:03Speaker 00

  They're not. They're not. Okay, you're such a jerk. It means I was sitting, Hank was sitting right behind me. To say that he had no doubt is a lie. He had, there was, there was some nervous talk at points in this game. Absolutely.

• 1:11:18Speaker 06

  Yeah, 100%. But then Gino threw the interception.

• 1:11:22Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:11:22Speaker 06

  That's the only thing that you can say. That's the Jets.

• 1:11:24Speaker 00

  And Aaron Glenn just needs to figure out when he, when they get the ball. That's a, that's a.

• 1:11:29Speaker 03

  Spoken to.

• 1:11:30Speaker 06

  Well, that and the the under two minutes is a major.

• 1:11:34Speaker 00

  Yeah, what was the stat?

• 1:11:36Speaker 06

  It was like nine, he's been outscored 96 to 7 under two minutes.

• 1:11:40Speaker 00

  Oh, my God.

• 1:11:40Speaker 06

  It's bad. And it lost us the game today.

• 1:11:43Speaker 00

  And that's all like those, those end of two minutes in the first half, start of two minutes, you know, four minutes, like that double dip is like, that's how games are decided.

• 1:11:51Speaker 06

  They went field goal, three and out, touchdown.

• 1:11:54Speaker 00

  That's literally how the Saints won today was that double dip.

• 1:11:57Speaker 06

  Damn. But like, is that his fault when like, when they're just going three and out? That's gotta be on the offense.

• 1:12:02Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's true.

• 1:12:04Speaker 03

  He needs to play that game, though. The two minute drill.

• 1:12:08Speaker 00

  Yeah, the two minute drill game.

• 1:12:09Speaker 06

  That probably would help him.

• 1:12:10Speaker 03

  It definitely would.

• 1:12:12Speaker 00

  He definitely needs to play that game. Okay, uh, next game. Panthers 25, Eagles 14. Max has given up. Rightfully so.

• 1:12:23Speaker 06

  Yeah, I mean, it's preseason team.

• 1:12:26Speaker 00

  You, you, at one point, you were sitting so far away from your game, it was almost like you were, you were like, didn't want to be seen with your game.

• 1:12:39Speaker 06

  This is the way I'll describe it. Like, have you ever seen a scary movie where you go, where you're watching it and you kind of like have to watch it between your eyes because you like have to disassociate yourself with that game?

• 1:12:49Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:12:50Speaker 06

  Or that that movie? That's how I'm watching Eagles games right now. Is that like, I can't sit too closely and pay because I know that it stinks. I know that what I'm watching stinks. That I need some sort of space barrier because it's not worth my anger because it's not an NFL football team right now.

• 1:13:11Speaker 00

  Your distance was actually making you more calm?

• 1:13:14Speaker 06

  Yes.

• 1:13:14Speaker 00

  Because, yeah, so, so we have, we have eight TVs on the wall in the gambling cave here in the office. And Max started the game sitting basically right in front of his game. And then at halftime, I just started hearing his voice and I was like, what game is he talking about? Because he had moved to the other side of the room. He was sitting the furthest point from the Eagles game TV. And uh, he just could, he couldn't be seen with it. He didn't want to be seen in public with with the Eagles team that was on the field.

• 1:13:47Speaker 06

  Yeah, I mean, we're just, we're just, it's just not, not a good football team. It's just, there's just not very many good football players on that football team right now.

• 1:13:56Speaker 03

  You guys can still win the NFC East.

• 1:13:58Speaker 06

  We could. We could still win the NFC East.

• 1:14:00Speaker 00

  What do we think about Tanner McKee? Should we, I, I, we should call Pug.

• 1:14:03Speaker 06

  Yeah, let's call Pug.

• 1:14:04Speaker 00

  Let's call Pug.

• 1:14:05Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:14:06Speaker 00

  He is his number one guy.

• 1:14:07Speaker 03

  Brighten up our spirits.

• 1:14:09Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:14:10Speaker 06

  Would you like me to say what I think while we wait or no?

• 1:14:12Speaker 03

  Yeah, go ahead.

• 1:14:13Speaker 06

  Actually, let's wait.

• 1:14:14Speaker 03

  Joe Milton. I love Joe Milton.

• 1:14:16Speaker 00

  Joe Milton.

• 1:14:17Speaker 06

  Joe Milton would at least be fun.

• 1:14:18Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 1:14:19Speaker 00

  He would be a lot of fun.

• 1:14:20Speaker 06

  He would be fun.

• 1:14:21Speaker 03

  We want to see Pizuka Joe. Pug's just living his life now.

• 1:14:24Speaker 06

  Yeah, Pug's.

• 1:14:25Speaker 00

  Sunday nights.

• 1:14:26Speaker 03

  He might be in bed.

• 1:14:27Speaker 06

  Yeah, he could be in bed.

• 1:14:30Speaker 03

  It's, it's late.

• 1:14:31Speaker 00

  Yeah, I think he might be in bed.

• 1:14:33Speaker 03

  Oh, the second he was no longer doing part of my take on Sundays, he takes full advantage.

• 1:14:38Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:14:39Speaker 03

  Go to bed early. Why not?

• 1:14:40Speaker 06

  He probably goes to the brewery, taps in and then.

• 1:14:44Speaker 03

  Taps out.

• 1:14:45Speaker 06

  Watches the Eagles and then goes to bed at like nine o'clock.

• 1:14:47Speaker 03

  Joe Milton one time threw an orange 106 yards in the air.

• 1:14:50Speaker 06

  Yeah. Um, this is what I'll say about Tanner McKee. Uh, I think this week was pretty hectic. It was, you know, he didn't have a full week of prep. There's a lot going on, a lot of scary things going on in the quarterback room.

• 1:15:04Speaker 00

  Wait, what? Okay.

• 1:15:06Speaker 06

  It's Alan Hertz. What do you mean?

• 1:15:07Speaker 00

  No, I just.

• 1:15:08Speaker 06

  He's a medical condition.

• 1:15:09Speaker 00

  It is, but it's scary things. Like he was scared?

• 1:15:13Speaker 06

  I don't know. There, yeah.

• 1:15:14Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:15:14Speaker 06

  There, there's a lot going on.

• 1:15:16Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:15:16Speaker 06

  Uh,

• 1:15:19Speaker 06

  I, he's got to get a full week of prep before, before Cowboys next week. I still believe in Tanner McKee. I think that he, he will be better. He can be better. There were times that he didn't look terrible today. The O-line is still bad. It's just not a very good football team.

• 1:15:36Speaker 00

  BFT's got his head raised.

• 1:15:37Speaker 06

  Mr. Commenter.

• 1:15:38Speaker 03

  Hey, uh, yeah, Max, it's uh, Mr. Comment here. Uh, first of all, congratulations on the Sixers season starting. You can just elegantly pivot into being a big LeBron fan now. Um, but when it comes to the Eagles, there's a lot of chatter around their coach, Nick Sirianni. And how do you weigh Nick Sirianni's performance as a head coach, given that they've lost four straight games for the first time under his tenure versus the injuries that he's had to deal with and overcome? I'll take my question offline.

• 1:16:06Speaker 06

  Um, I think.

• 1:16:09Speaker 00

  Oh, Pug's calling me back. Okay. Pug.

• 1:16:12Speaker 07

  What's up?

• 1:16:13Speaker 00

  Hey, we're taping PMT right now. We, we had to, we had to call you about Tanner McKee. What'd you think?

• 1:16:19Speaker 07

  It's not the best day, but not everybody can play lights out every Sunday. Sometimes you have okay days. That's fine.

• 1:16:27Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:16:27Speaker 03

  It's an okay day.

• 1:16:28Speaker 00

  I mean, you're the number one Tanner McKee guy, so we, we had to talk to you.

• 1:16:33Speaker 07

  I mean, the offense, I think it's kind of no matter who you put in our QB, the, the offense is just a bad operation right now. Jalen Tanner, it doesn't matter.

• 1:16:43Speaker 06

  Preach.

• 1:16:43Speaker 07

  Bad operation.

• 1:16:44Speaker 03

  What about Joe? What if it was Joe Milton?

• 1:16:46Speaker 00

  What about Joe Milton?

• 1:16:49Speaker 07

  Nah.

• 1:16:50Speaker 00

  No? Pizuka Joe?

• 1:16:52Speaker 03

  What a hater.

• 1:16:53Speaker 07

  I mean, he can throw it deep, but.

• 1:16:56Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:16:57Speaker 07

  We need someone that, I don't know. It's the, the operation's bad.

• 1:17:01Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:17:02Speaker 07

  We need, we need some new offensive minds in there. I'll say that.

• 1:17:05Speaker 00

  What do you think about, uh, do you think Tanner McKee just needed a week where there was, you know, maybe a settled down week where he's practicing with the ones, no scary stuff happening?

• 1:17:14Speaker 07

  Yeah, I mean, look, it only gets better from here. Like now he's got time, more time with the ones. Like it might even look even better next week, so.

• 1:17:22Speaker 00

  Right, right. It, it could also look worse.

• 1:17:27Speaker 07

  Yeah. It looked fine.

• 1:17:30Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:17:31Speaker 03

  Uh, Pug, Pug, do you think the Eagles can still win?

• 1:17:34Speaker 07

  He's gonna get better and then it'll look sick.

• 1:17:36Speaker 03

  Yeah. Pug, do you think the Eagles can still win the NFC East?

• 1:17:40Speaker 07

  No.

• 1:17:43Speaker 00

  All right.

• 1:17:46Speaker 00

  All right, we love you, Pug. Thank you for for giving us.

• 1:17:48Speaker 06

  Love you, Pug.

• 1:17:49Speaker 03

  Bye, Pug. Love you.

• 1:17:50Speaker 06

  See ya. Love you, Pug.

• 1:17:51Speaker 03

  He's a good boy.

• 1:17:52Speaker 06

  Very boy.

• 1:17:54Speaker 00

  It looked fine.

• 1:17:55Speaker 03

  It looked fine. Everything looked fine, but also the offense looks like shit.

• 1:17:58Speaker 00

  Yeah, but it was fine.

• 1:18:01Speaker 03

  It's a bad off. It's a bad operation.

• 1:18:02Speaker 00

  It's a bad operation all around.

• 1:18:03Speaker 06

  Yeah, the defense, the the defense.

• 1:18:09Speaker 06

  They keep you in it and then and then there's so many three and outs that they just have to be on the field for so long, so long, so long that eventually they're just gonna break.

• 1:18:17Speaker 03

  Mm hmm.

• 1:18:18Speaker 06

  Yes.

• 1:18:19Speaker 03

  Hey, Max, PFT commenter from part of my take. Can I refer you to my previous question about.

• 1:18:24Speaker 06

  Nick Sirianni?

• 1:18:25Speaker 03

  Evaluating Nick Sirianni as a head coach, weighing it against all the injuries.

• 1:18:31Speaker 06

  Today was tough to tell. It's just bad. It was just there's just bad football players out there.

• 1:18:36Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:18:36Speaker 06

  And then there was a moment where I think it was like it felt like three plays in a row. Devante Smith goes down. Dontavion Wicks goes down. Jordan Davis goes down.

• 1:18:45Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:18:45Speaker 06

  I know it couldn't be three plays in a row because that was two offensive players, one defensive player, but it felt like three players. Listen, Sirianni.

• 1:18:54Speaker 00

  First four game losing streak of his career.

• 1:18:58Speaker 06

  I don't know, man. Like, it's hard. It's hard to even be mad. The players are bad. They're bad football players right now.

• 1:19:05Speaker 03

  I read that this is the first time since 1999 that the Eagles haven't had 250 yards of offense in four straight games.

• 1:19:10Speaker 00

  Oof, bad operation.

• 1:19:12Speaker 03

  Bad the operation.

• 1:19:13Speaker 06

  Yeah, they just got bad football players right now. I don't know what to tell you.

• 1:19:16Speaker 00

  Have you? Do you have a little comfort in knowing that you kind of can give up?

• 1:19:22Speaker 06

  I'm not giving up yet.

• 1:19:23Speaker 00

  Oh, okay.

• 1:19:24Speaker 06

  Beat the Cowboys next week.

• 1:19:26Speaker 00

  Anything could happen.

• 1:19:26Speaker 06

  I need the Packers to win this game.

• 1:19:28Speaker 00

  Yeah, the NFC East, not like anyone's dominating.

• 1:19:30Speaker 06

  Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, you could still win the NFC East, right, PFT?

• 1:19:33Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:19:33Speaker 06

  So could you?

• 1:19:34Speaker 03

  I thought so, but now that Pug kind of said no, I don't know if I believe that anymore.

• 1:19:38Speaker 00

  He absolutely said no.

• 1:19:39Speaker 06

  I mean, you.

• 1:19:39Speaker 03

  Finger on the pulse.

• 1:19:40Speaker 06

  You beat the if the Cowboys lose this game, you beat the Cowboys next week. You're right. You're right there.

• 1:19:44Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:19:44Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:19:45Speaker 00

  Right there.

• 1:19:46Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:19:46Speaker 06

  The defense is I still believe in the defense.

• 1:19:48Speaker 03

  Your your defense is good. You've still got all the good players. I don't think.

• 1:19:53Speaker 06

  We need Saquon back.

• 1:19:54Speaker 03

  Is gonna forget how to coach overnight. When is he coming back?

• 1:19:57Speaker 06

  Great question. Hopefully next week. I believe he'll come back for Monday Night Football next week. You need him. Need him.

• 1:20:03Speaker 00

  That's Monday Night Football?

• 1:20:05Speaker 06

  Yeah, I'll be in I'll be in the in the house.

• 1:20:06Speaker 00

  Oh, hell, yeah. We.

• 1:20:08Speaker 06

  Shout out Tick Pick.

• 1:20:09Speaker 00

  Shout out Tick Pick. Panthers. Look, I mean, Bryce Young is playing well. I know he didn't have like the most efficient day, but Bryce Young's playing well this season. Panthers off by win a game that they should win against a bad Eagles team currently.

• 1:20:23Speaker 03

  First time that Canales get to win off the bye.

• 1:20:26Speaker 00

  And Chuba Hubbard. Oh, Dak is such a big stupid picks guy.

• 1:20:29Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:20:30Speaker 00

  God damn it.

• 1:20:31Speaker 06

  Oh, Dak's the best. I fucking love that guy.

• 1:20:33Speaker 00

  He's so bad.

• 1:20:34Speaker 03

  Standing right there, man.

• 1:20:35Speaker 06

  What is that throw?

• 1:20:36Speaker 00

  Dak. Dak is such a big stupid picks.

• 1:20:39Speaker 03

  How many? How many Packers fans you think Dak's gonna try to get fired?

• 1:20:42Speaker 06

  I'll take you over now.

• 1:20:45Speaker 00

  Oh, Dak, man.

• 1:20:47Speaker 06

  Damas.

• 1:20:48Speaker 00

  Damas.

• 1:20:50Speaker 03

  Yeah, good for Carolina. Good for Carolina. Canales first win off a bye. I think of his career as a head coach. And then Jalen Coker is just Jalen Coker is just good. We need to start appreciating Jalen Coker. He needs he needs to be talked about like one of the group of very, very. I don't know if he's a great wide. He's a very, very good wide receiver right now.

• 1:21:08Speaker 00

  Mm hmm. And Chuba Hubbard looks like he's back like he's he's had two really nice games in a row. I agree. Jalen Coker is awesome.

• 1:21:15Speaker 03

  Didn't he clean up with some of the penalties, though?

• 1:21:17Speaker 00

  Yeah. Also, they tried to pants Dallas Goddard. That was fucked up.

• 1:21:21Speaker 03

  Is that a is that a flag for flagging?

• 1:21:23Speaker 00

  I think there was a holding on it.

• 1:21:24Speaker 06

  There was. Yeah, 100%. Yeah, I mean, he was running a route. That's that.

• 1:21:27Speaker 03

  You can't.

• 1:21:28Speaker 06

  He was holding. He was holding on to his pants.

• 1:21:30Speaker 03

  You can't pull a guy's pants. Can you take your own pants off?

• 1:21:33Speaker 00

  Randy Moss.

• 1:21:34Speaker 03

  You ever seen that? Like.

• 1:21:35Speaker 06

  Yeah, Randy Moss.

• 1:21:35Speaker 03

  I've seen that in like a fight clip. A guy just like gets naked real quick and the other guy runs away. It's a good form of self defense.

• 1:21:42Speaker 00

  Yeah. What? So Jalen Hurst is on the IR, so he's gonna be out for the rest of the year? What's the situation?

• 1:21:48Speaker 06

  I don't know. I don't know what to tell you, man.

• 1:21:51Speaker 00

  Okay, well, you said it. You're going. You're going Monday night. PFT, you have you have an ad for Tick Pick. Monday night, you'll be in the building.

• 1:21:58Speaker 06

  I will be in the building Monday night. We got a couple more weeks of Tanner Tanner McKee. See if we can stay in the fight.

• 1:22:06Speaker 02

  Wait, you're whoa, whoa, whoa. You're going to the game. You want you want Bazooka Joe?

• 1:22:10Speaker 06

  No, I want Tanner. I want Tanner McKee.

• 1:22:11Speaker 03

  You want Bazooka Joe in that?

• 1:22:12Speaker 02

  You're gonna be in the stands drunk being like Bazooka Joe.

• 1:22:16Speaker 03

  Yeah, the first the first like it's gonna be third and eight and you're gonna throw a four yard out and you're gonna say they need to put Joe Milton.

• 1:22:25Speaker 00

  Joe Milton's got.

• 1:22:26Speaker 03

  Joe Milton's a fucking fluffy eagle.

• 1:22:28Speaker 06

  I want Bazooka Joe when I still have a little bit of hope in the season. I want Bazooka Joe when I've lost all hope in the season and maybe be like, maybe he could bring me back. And be like, if if the season's gonna suck, at least Bazooka Joe will be fun.

• 1:22:42Speaker 03

  It's Bron season. Part of my take is brought to you by our friends over at Tick Pick. The NBA is back tomorrow night. Tick Pick is sending the booth boys to the garden.

• 1:22:49Speaker 06

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:22:50Speaker 03

  Knicks and Sixers, ring night, banner night. LeBron's first game in a Sixers jersey. Zach's first time ever in New York City. Is that true, Zach?

• 1:22:59Speaker 04

  Yes, sir. Super excited.

• 1:23:00Speaker 06

  We're gonna have him try all the New York City staples.

• 1:23:03Speaker 04

  Like everything.

• 1:23:03Speaker 06

  Everything.

• 1:23:04Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah? Like what?

• 1:23:05Speaker 04

  Spurrow?

• 1:23:05Speaker 06

  Pizza?

• 1:23:06Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:23:06Speaker 00

  Hell, yeah.

• 1:23:08Speaker 03

  Get a bagel?

• 1:23:09Speaker 06

  Yep. Chop cheese.

• 1:23:11Speaker 03

  Street meat?

• 1:23:12Speaker 06

  Street meat.

• 1:23:14Speaker 03

  In on street meat.

• 1:23:15Speaker 06

  Dirty water dog.

• 1:23:16Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:23:16Speaker 06

  All of it.

• 1:23:17Speaker 03

  That sounds awesome. Enjoy. Enjoy New York. And Max, you guys just signed Taco Fall, too, right?

• 1:23:23Speaker 06

  Yep, love tacos.

• 1:23:24Speaker 03

  Taco Tuesday.

• 1:23:25Speaker 06

  Yep.

• 1:23:26Speaker 03

  In New York. LeBron in Sixers uniform.

• 1:23:29Speaker 06

  Yeah, LeBron and.

• 1:23:30Speaker 03

  Banner should do do a little collab. Banner night.

• 1:23:32Speaker 06

  Banner night.

• 1:23:33Speaker 03

  If you got your eyes on a game, it's Bron night. Well, so bigger than.

• 1:23:36Speaker 06

  Yeah, it's Bron night.

• 1:23:37Speaker 03

  So that's bigger than the Sixers?

• 1:23:38Speaker 06

  Yeah, bigger than banner.

• 1:23:40Speaker 04

  Easy big fellow.

• 1:23:41Speaker 06

  Bigger than banner.

• 1:23:41Speaker 03

  It's a home game for LeBron.

• 1:23:43Speaker 06

  Yep.

• 1:23:44Speaker 03

  Really short commute for him.

• 1:23:47Speaker 03

  Right, memes?

• 1:23:49Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah, he does look very close.

• 1:23:51Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:23:51Speaker 06

  He should still take the helicopter.

• 1:23:53Speaker 03

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• 1:24:47Speaker 00

  Okay, next up, the Tennessee Titans have a win. Titans 26, Colts 20. The Tennessee Titans, based on what we said on, I think, Friday's show, are technically good because they beat the grocery stick team.

• 1:25:01Speaker 03

  I thought about this. You can make the argument the Colts kind of beat themselves.

• 1:25:06Speaker 00

  Oh, big time.

• 1:25:07Speaker 03

  Would that that would mean that the Colts are a bad team because they lost to the Colts?

• 1:25:11Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah, they're really bad.

• 1:25:13Speaker 03

  And the Titans.

• 1:25:13Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:25:14Speaker 03

  So, but no, credit to Tennessee. They won a game. Congratulations. Enjoy it.

• 1:25:19Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:25:19Speaker 03

  I don't know how many more times it's gonna happen this year, but you get a victory Monday. On Monday, you get to listen to to Sports Talk Radio. You get to turn on ESPN without living in fear of getting blindsided by an accidental highlight of you getting your teeth kicked in.

• 1:25:34Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:25:34Speaker 03

  So enjoy it.

• 1:25:35Speaker 00

  It it their defense was awesome, opportunistic. They this is their first win in the AFC South in 12 tries. So November 11 game losing streak in the AFC South dating back to November 24, 2024. They they break that. Six game losing streak against the Colts. They break that. Seven game losing streak dating back to December 2025. They break that. Four game road losing streak back to December 2025. They break that. It wasn't pretty. Cam Ward was still not good. Carnell Tate actually is good. So you I think the Titans did a good job with that

• 1:26:17Speaker 00

  pick, but their defense did it. They forced fumbles. They made Daniel Jones be an idiot. They blocked punts. I was looking at it. I was looking back. The the Titans scored 26 points and on those on their their drives to score points were 158 yards total. So they had a 22 yard field goal drive, a 51 yard field goal drive. This is all because of, you know, like a fumble and interception. They got a punt return that a 58 yard punt return that led to a 28 yard touchdown drive. They blocked a punt. Their last field goal was a five yard drive. They didn't have to do a lot on offense because Jeffrey Simmons

• 1:26:59Speaker 00

  was an absolute beast. He was double teamed. I saw this stat. He was double teamed 24 times. He had two sacks and seven pressures. I think they they all came when he was being double teamed. So he's just a monster of a man. And they were the Titans were outgained 399 to 186. 11 first downs is what they had total. Doesn't matter. The Titans won a football game and that's gotta feel good. Robert Sala gets his first win in Tennessee.

• 1:27:30Speaker 00

  Good for the Titans. I'm happy for Titans fans. They've been through hell. We were, we were talking about the hell they've been through. Obviously, this doesn't change like big picture, but like you said, one, one Monday, they aren't the laughing stock. One Monday, they, they can, they can turn on the TV and they could be like, hey, you know what? We won a football game. Winning a football game is hard to do. They won a football game. They get to wake up and have a victory Monday.

• 1:27:53Speaker 03

  And they, they gave, uh, they've coached a game ball.

• 1:27:55Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:27:55Speaker 03

  And said, congratulations. Uh, you deserve this. Uh, there, uh, the return game's always been like Tamira DK is actually a pretty good returner.

• 1:28:03Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:28:03Speaker 03

  So he had a good punt return. He had some good kickoff returns as well today. The, uh, the Colts, I have a, I have a theory about Daniel Jones. I think he's extremely unhealthy right now.

• 1:28:12Speaker 00

  Oh, I think he's just bad because he's always been pretty bad outside of like a couple, like really good runs, but not as a career. His, his career's not been good.

• 1:28:22Speaker 03

  To start the season last year, he was really, really good.

• 1:28:24Speaker 00

  Yeah, no, no, I said a couple.

• 1:28:26Speaker 03

  Then he tore his Achilles.

• 1:28:27Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:28:28Speaker 03

  And the Achilles is something that takes a long time to fully come back from. I'm not saying that Daniel Jones is, is going to be like, what was he? Six and two last year? He's not a guy that's going to take your team to 13 and four. I'm not saying that, but I am saying he's not as bad as, as he has been playing. But I think that our expectation of somebody, uh, coming off an Achilles is it's a, it can be skewed sometimes.

• 1:28:50Speaker 00

  What outside of his one good year for the Giants makes you think that he's going to be a top of, top 10, top 15 quarterback in the NFL?

• 1:28:59Speaker 03

  I would say probably about exactly somewhere between 12 and 15. He could be.

• 1:29:04Speaker 00

  But he's not, he had one really, really good year with Brian Daboll. And other than that, he's pretty much the same.

• 1:29:11Speaker 03

  To start the season last year.

• 1:29:13Speaker 00

  Yeah, no, I'm saying, yeah, besides that and the one good year, the rest of his career has been pretty much the same.

• 1:29:18Speaker 03

  That's why I was thinking that.

• 1:29:19Speaker 00

  Where it's like, I, I would trust more the times when he's not looked very good versus the couple of times that he has looked a little bit above average.

• 1:29:29Speaker 03

  I was just thinking for the Colts in this offense, it's pretty similar team to what it was last year. I think he's not as bad as he's played this year is what I'm getting at. Now, if you look at his winning percentage, it says, and everything's not on a, not on a quarterback. I believe Anthony Richardson has the same winning percentage for the Colts as Daniel Jones does.

• 1:29:48Speaker 00

  Yeah, I didn't, uh, going into, uh, this season, I was, I mean, I've, I've never been like the biggest Daniel Jones believer. I, I just don't understand, like the Colts as a franchise need to blow it all up. They, they like Daniel Jones is not your quarterback. Chris Ballard's not your GM. Shane Steichen, you could say could be a good coach somewhere else, but he got screwed by being in this poisonous organization. I feel bad for Colts fans because they are just the exact same team every single year, and it's not a good product. Chris Ballard is in his 10th season as a GM. He's 72, 82 and one in those 10 years. So nine, nine plus six

• 1:30:29Speaker 00

  uh, games this year. He has been to two playoffs, one playoff win, and he's never won the AFC South, the AFC South. And I know you're thinking right now, oh, the Jaguars and the, the Texans look good. No, no, those teams were like, have not been historically good. It's been a, a very gettable division. Chris Ballard's never won it as a GM. Colts fans have to, you lost Seth to flow. Seth to flow is gone. He said, he's like, he's, you gotta, what was the exact, I think his exact tweet.

• 1:31:02Speaker 03

  Reset the shoe.

• 1:31:02Speaker 00

  Reset the shoe. It's over. You can't lose this game. I know, like statistically, you dominated the Titans. You can't lose this game. You can't lose to a team that hasn't won in the division in like two years.

• 1:31:18Speaker 03

  I wonder what the all time record is for longest inter-division losing streak because 11 games has got to be close.

• 1:31:25Speaker 00

  It's, yeah.

• 1:31:25Speaker 03

  I can't, I can't think of any other teams that have.

• 1:31:28Speaker 00

  Hank is looking up, but I, but that, so I, I, I know what you're saying. Like Daniel Jones has come back from injury. I get that.

• 1:31:35Speaker 03

  Achilles is pretty serious.

• 1:31:36Speaker 00

  But you can't, you, if you're a Colts fan, you have to demand for everything to change. You can't be like, it's because of Daniel Jones Achilles. Cause that's kind of what, what has happened for the Colts the last decade is they basically the entire time have been like, well, Andrew Luck retired early and then we had to get Phil Rivers and then we had to get Matt Ryan and then we had to, you know, do this and that. And another style Jacob percent and stop gap quarterbacks. Oh, and then we're going to get Daniel Jones and he was pretty good for a few games and then he, he hurt himself, which that sucks, but you gotta just blow the whole thing up. It's like, none of it works. All your guys are old. I don't even know who you could trade at this point. It sucks for Colts fans. I, I feel, I feel like I have to, have to stick up for him because like Indianapolis is not a major market. So

• 1:32:21Speaker 00

  they're not going to lead get up. They're not going to lead like the national sports shows, but there should be, if this were any other, like if this was a big market franchise, people would be like, how the fuck does Chris Ballard still have a job? How the fuck is this thing still going 10 years where it's the exact same every year? Can't win a division. Can't win the division.

• 1:32:41Speaker 03

  It's a, it's.

• 1:32:41Speaker 00

  Reset the shoe.

• 1:32:42Speaker 03

  It's pretty ridiculous that Seth the flow. Well, it's, he also bears some responsibility in this because everything went sideways after he apologized.

• 1:32:52Speaker 00

  Yeah. I mean, Colts weren't that good last year. I mean, I know they were.

• 1:32:56Speaker 03

  I think they were six and two.

• 1:32:57Speaker 00

  I know, but they were never.

• 1:32:59Speaker 03

  The flow apologized for getting too violent. What'd he say? We have to, we have to break someone's knee.

• 1:33:04Speaker 00

  Shove it up Rogers ass.

• 1:33:05Speaker 03

  Yeah. Shove it up Rogers pooper and, uh, you never apologize.

• 1:33:09Speaker 00

  But I think like the most, the most dangerous thing the Colts could do, and I, I think most Colts fans probably agree with me here. It's like, to be like, well, we were six and two last year. And if Daniel Jones can get healthy, maybe we can, no, no, that, that was not, that this team is not sustainable long-term. This team is not good long-term. You have, you have to change everything.

• 1:33:30Speaker 03

  I'm mostly saying that I don't think that Daniel Jones is, is the biggest problem that they have. I think they've got, uh, they've got.

• 1:33:36Speaker 00

  No, it's Chris Ballard.

• 1:33:37Speaker 03

  Long list of problems in Indy that they need to address. Um, and I don't, I don't even really know where you begin to start, but probably they're going to go through a coaching change this off season.

• 1:33:47Speaker 00

  You have to.

• 1:33:48Speaker 03

  I would imagine that he was probably, and, and listen, there's certain ways to do things in the NFL. I think we've seen that probably the worst possible way to do it is to keep your general manager and then have that person hire a new coach. And then you fire the general manager and you keep the coach. And then you bring in a new general manager who didn't hire that coach. And so then everything's off kilter for about like 10 years.

• 1:34:11Speaker 00

  He's already gotten two new coaches.

• 1:34:13Speaker 03

  I would say.

• 1:34:13Speaker 00

  Chris Ballard's already gotten two new coaches.

• 1:34:14Speaker 03

  I would say, I would say get rid of, uh, of everybody. If you're going to get rid of one of them.

• 1:34:19Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm. He fired, I think his first year, he fired Pagano, got Frank Reich, then fired Frank Reich, obviously Jeff Saturday for a minute, then Shane Steichen. He's, he's survived a million quarterback changes, drafting Anthony Richardson with the fourth overall pick. I mean, he's, it's insane that he, they haven't won the division in 10 years. What other GM gets that? Like no GM gets that.

• 1:34:43Speaker 03

  I don't know who's making, making the calls. Is it, is it Miss Ursay right now? Is she the, the buck stops here?

• 1:34:48Speaker 00

  Yeah. I mean, when, when did, when did Jim Ursay pass away? Was it during last season or was it the beginning of last season? So I would, I would assume that she probably didn't want to make a, a decision. Yeah. So it was right before the beginning of last season.

• 1:35:01Speaker 00

  What? Yeah.

• 1:35:03Speaker 03

  May, May 21st.

• 1:35:04Speaker 00

  Oh, so it was after last.

• 1:35:05Speaker 03

  It was game one of the Eastern Conference Finals two years ago.

• 1:35:07Speaker 00

  Yeah. So it was right before the beginning of last season, like, like before, like training camp and all that stuff.

• 1:35:12Speaker 03

  Got it, got it, got it, got it, got it.

• 1:35:13Speaker 00

  So I could understand not making a change last year. Totally get that. Now you gotta make a change. Cause it's crazy. She's, I mean, she's said almost that. She basically has intimated that.

• 1:35:25Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:35:25Speaker 00

  But it's just, I think Colts fans have just been through, it's like, it's a different type of hell than the Titans fans. Cause Titans fans have just had to deal with just rock bottom. Colts fans have just been being sold this like junk over and over and being like, well, we're kinda, if you look at it sideways, maybe, you know, eight and nine, oh, we went nine and eight. Oh, they get, they won four games that finished the season. You don't fuck, you know, they could have gotten hot and gotten in the dance. Like it's just that over every year. And, and maybe this is a blessing that you guys are, are going to be bad this year.

• 1:35:59Speaker 03

  I think that this loss in particular is a good thing. It's terrible. It's embarrassing. If you're a Colts fan, it's, this has got to be rock bottom. Uh, but it's a good thing, I think, long-term that you lost to the Titans, that you were the team that gave, and the Titans, honestly, like they, they weren't that good on offense today. Again, they're bad on offense again today, uh, but you lost to them. And if you're going to have a, if you're going to have a loss, it might as well be a really bad loss. And for a team that's in, in this position, if you had gone on being the grocery stick and, and you beat every team that is truly at the bottom of the league. Um, for example, the commanders, you beat those types of teams, then guess what? That's going to keep everybody, it's going to keep you stuck in the quicksand of mediocrity for a very long time.

• 1:36:43Speaker 00

  Yeah, no.

• 1:36:44Speaker 03

  A blow it up loss is going to be one that you can look back on and say, that was, that was the best way that we could have lost, even though it sucked at the time.

• 1:36:51Speaker 00

  Yeah. If you won this game, you would have been three and three, and you would have been telling yourself, oh shit, like they got a chance. Like, no, just, it's, it's bad. It's bad. It's tough watch.

• 1:37:00Speaker 03

  At least they've got Indiana.

• 1:37:02Speaker 00

  Yeah. That didn't go well. Nick Marsh, I still can't believe that.

• 1:37:07Speaker 03

  Well, in general.

• 1:37:08Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:37:09Speaker 03

  In general, if you're a Colts fan, you're probably also a high percentage.

• 1:37:13Speaker 00

  Purdue.

• 1:37:14Speaker 03

  Indiana football.

• 1:37:15Speaker 00

  Purdue actually had like, for the first time in a long time, they had some positive momentum and then lost to Washington's backup on Friday night. So that wasn't good. Uh, okay. Last early game, Saints 34, Giants 27.

• 1:37:31Speaker 00

  Chuck Chuck wins three touchdowns gritty effort. He's been playing with a broken hand. His offhand, but he's got two broken bones in his hand. Uh, we had like a little Alvin Kamara throwback on that screen. The, the Saints, it was, it was really the end of the first half where I, I don't like going for it on fourth down at the end of a half. Cause like we've talked about, you don't get the benefit of giving the other team bad field position. But I think Kellen Moore was in a desperate situation where he's like, we have to do something because they started slow again where they're down seven, nothing almost instantly. But that was the change in the game. It was, they scored at the end of, they went for it on

• 1:38:12Speaker 00

  fourth down, scored at the end of the first half to tie it 10, 10, then scored first drive, second half, 17, 10. Then Jameis, listen, I just started charting, uh, interceptions. I don't think Jame, any of those interceptions were on Jameis.

• 1:38:26Speaker 03

  We have to wait for the all 22.

• 1:38:27Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:38:27Speaker 03

  But yeah.

• 1:38:28Speaker 00

  No, I, I saw it. I don't even need to wait for the all.

• 1:38:29Speaker 03

  There was a, there was one where was it, was it neighbors that was coming back to the ball?

• 1:38:34Speaker 00

  Yeah. He didn't put his hands.

• 1:38:35Speaker 03

  He did everything except just put his hands up. And so it kind of just went past him. And then another one where again, I, I don't really care to watch it again. I guess I will watch the all 22 because I have to, it's my job.

• 1:38:46Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:38:48Speaker 03

  But I'm just going to say that Jameis did a great job getting his backup prepared for this game.

• 1:38:54Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:38:54Speaker 03

  Because then JJ McCarthy came in.

• 1:38:56Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:38:56Speaker 03

  And had, this is why we gotta have defined rules like closers in, in baseball. JJ McCarthy in the fourth quarter, 18 comes in and, and just lit the world on fire.

• 1:39:06Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:39:06Speaker 03

  Comeback bid.

• 1:39:07Speaker 00

  He came in his fourth pass, I think was an interception. Then after that he was 11 for 21 for 243 yards and a touchdown. It was, he was, he, what, what was his yardage in the fourth quarter?

• 1:39:22Speaker 02

  He had like 180.

• 1:39:23Speaker 00

  In, just in the fourth quarter alone?

• 1:39:25Speaker 06

  JJ?

• 1:39:25Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:39:26Speaker 06

  242.

• 1:39:27Speaker 00

  242.

• 1:39:28Speaker 06

  Yeah. It was all, yeah.

• 1:39:29Speaker 00

  Damn.

• 1:39:32Speaker 03

  That, I mean, he looked good. Probably not great for Jameis that that happened.

• 1:39:35Speaker 00

  No, I'd say no.

• 1:39:36Speaker 03

  Cause if you're Harbaugh, and I think Harbaugh has, has called JJ McCarthy, a mix of Michael Jordan and Abe Lincoln.

• 1:39:42Speaker 00

  Hmm.

• 1:39:43Speaker 03

  So that's going to be tough.

• 1:39:44Speaker 02

  That's a good one. Harbaugh says your quarterback's really good.

• 1:39:47Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:39:48Speaker 06

  Do I have permission to say a stat that was given to me that is not, I did not go seek out, but I was given and asked to say on the show?

• 1:39:55Speaker 03

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:39:56Speaker 00

  What's the stat?

• 1:39:58Speaker 06

  JJ McCarthy in the fourth quarter had more passing yards than Jane Daniels has had in the past two years.

• 1:40:05Speaker 02

  Oh no.

• 1:40:06Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 1:40:07Speaker 06

  I.

• 1:40:08Speaker 03

  Well, he didn't really play that last year.

• 1:40:11Speaker 06

  Well, JJ McCarthy just played one quarter.

• 1:40:13Speaker 03

  Yeah. It was a great quarter.

• 1:40:14Speaker 06

  Good quarter. That's all.

• 1:40:15Speaker 00

  Who gave you that stat?

• 1:40:16Speaker 03

  JJ had a great quarter.

• 1:40:17Speaker 06

  This guy who's like a really, really big JJ McCarthy fan.

• 1:40:20Speaker 03

  Oh wow. That's, that feels like a somewhat unnecessary shot.

• 1:40:24Speaker 06

  I agree.

• 1:40:24Speaker 03

  I'm just, I'm just over here trying to tread water, maybe not get blown out on Monday Night of Football, mind my own business.

• 1:40:30Speaker 02

  Wait, so did Jane Daniels or, or, or nine play more in the fourth quarter last year?

• 1:40:36Speaker 03

  Uh, probably, probably JJ, how many games?

• 1:40:39Speaker 06

  Well, JJ played last year too.

• 1:40:41Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:40:42Speaker 00

  Yeah, he played.

• 1:40:42Speaker 03

  Jane didn't really play that much last year.

• 1:40:45Speaker 06

  Yeah. It's not a huge sample size.

• 1:40:47Speaker 03

  Yeah. That's fine. And listen, if you, it feels unnecessary because I'm.

• 1:40:50Speaker 00

  Feels like a mean stat.

• 1:40:51Speaker 03

  I'm also a JJ fan.

• 1:40:53Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:40:53Speaker 03

  I'm a nine fan.

• 1:40:54Speaker 06

  I'll tell, I'll tell Greer. I mean, whoever, whoever sent me that stat.

• 1:40:57Speaker 03

  He's, he's bitter because yeah, there's a lot of reasons that he's bitter right now, but that's okay. Um, the pace that JJ was on, I did see this tweet that, uh, right after he got in after the first, uh, two drives, he was on pace for 1,325 yards, 142 rushing yards and five touchdowns.

• 1:41:13Speaker 00

  Wow.

• 1:41:14Speaker 03

  Not long after he entered the game.

• 1:41:16Speaker 00

  Wow.

• 1:41:16Speaker 03

  So.

• 1:41:16Speaker 00

  Well, and also would it be five picks as well?

• 1:41:20Speaker 03

  Also five interceptions. Yes. Which would be, I mean, what an incredible game that would be.

• 1:41:24Speaker 00

  That'd be an insane game.

• 1:41:26Speaker 03

  We have a doghouse alert.

• 1:41:27Speaker 00

  Oh yeah.

• 1:41:28Speaker 03

  John Harbaugh's got a doghouse and, uh, and Camps Scataboo is firmly locked up in there right now.

• 1:41:34Speaker 00

  He's licking his own butt in there.

• 1:41:35Speaker 03

  He's been, he's been trapped in that doghouse and the worst part is Harbaugh's kind of denying that it's a doghouse.

• 1:41:42Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:41:43Speaker 03

  He's just saying, I'm trying to figure out what the right flow of running back usage is going to be for a rotation. Um, Scataboo had zero carries. It's the doghouse. We're in the doghouse for fumbling. I also think it was weird. He did get in the kicker's face when he missed a field goal last week. And then right after that, he proceeded to fumble in overtime.

• 1:42:01Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:42:02Speaker 03

  And I don't think that you can do both those things.

• 1:42:03Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:42:04Speaker 03

  And for, you know, whatever reason, he's in the doghouse. I don't know how you get out of a Harbaugh doghouse. The only way to get out of like Belichick's doghouse would be if, if there was like an injury ahead of you.

• 1:42:15Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:42:16Speaker 03

  And, and you were forced, he was, he was forced to, against his better judgment, have to hand you the football again. Uh, but I don't know how you get out of this doghouse because it seems pretty ironclad.

• 1:42:24Speaker 00

  Yeah. It doesn't, it doesn't feel good. He, Cam Scataboo admitted, he said, I got punished for what I did last week. I understand it. So I gotta be ready when coach calls my name and that wasn't today. That's tough. I think he had six snaps, zero carries.

• 1:42:37Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:42:38Speaker 00

  Man, I think this is just culture. He, Harbaugh's doing the culture setting.

• 1:42:43Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:42:43Speaker 00

  He's, he's using Cam Scott. He probably took, told him to decide. He was like, listen, man, I gotta make a, I gotta make an example out of someone here. You're going to be the guy.

• 1:42:53Speaker 03

  But imagine how, imagine how good scattered was going to be when he gets out of the doghouse.

• 1:42:57Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 1:42:57Speaker 03

  Like if you've ever.

• 1:42:58Speaker 00

  Crazy.

• 1:42:59Speaker 03

  You ever been on vacation and then you come back and you see your dog for the first time in a while and he goes nuts and it pees everywhere? Guess the zoomies, Scataboo is going to have the zoomies when he gets, when he finally gets let out.

• 1:43:08Speaker 00

  Yeah. He was, uh, he, it would be fun to see him back, but good for the Saints. By the way, uh, I got the update on Kellen Moore. He gave five game balls today. Feels like a little muted.

• 1:43:20Speaker 03

  I think there's going to be more.

• 1:43:21Speaker 00

  I feel like he should have given more game balls.

• 1:43:24Speaker 03

  Okay. Number one, you have to give one to, uh, Ms. Benson.

• 1:43:27Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:43:28Speaker 03

  Just gotta, yeah, kiss ass a little bit, play the game. I did see that he gave one to their left guard, David Edwards. He got to get a, a game ball. And the reason why was because he was asking to run the quarterback sneak at the goal line.

• 1:43:41Speaker 00

  Ooh.

• 1:43:42Speaker 03

  So he called that play and Kellen Moore was like game ball. That's game ball material.

• 1:43:46Speaker 00

  One less play I had to call.

• 1:43:47Speaker 03

  Exactly. Uh, Alvin Kamara also got a game ball because he.

• 1:43:50Speaker 00

  Deserved.

• 1:43:51Speaker 03

  He joined the 5,000 yards club. I'm assuming that's 5,000 yards receiving and 5,000 yards rushing.

• 1:43:56Speaker 00

  It is.

• 1:43:57Speaker 03

  Of course of his career.

• 1:43:57Speaker 00

  And it's actually, uh, kind of crazy because I think there's only six, I think there's only five other guys in that club. Uh, yeah. So players with 5,000 yard plus yards rushing, 5,000 plus yards receiving in NFL history. Lenny Moore, Marcus Allen, Marshall Falk, Tiki Barber, Christian McCaffrey, Alvin Kamara. So six guys.

• 1:44:19Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:44:20Speaker 00

  That is pretty, that's game ball worthy for sure. And, uh, who, I don't think Chuck got one. Hold on. I have the list.

• 1:44:27Speaker 06

  It's fucked up.

• 1:44:27Speaker 00

  I know.

• 1:44:28Speaker 03

  Uh, Emerson got one.

• 1:44:29Speaker 00

  He's playing with a fucking broken hand.

• 1:44:32Speaker 03

  Martin Emerson got one. He intercepted Jameis and JJ.

• 1:44:35Speaker 00

  Yeah. And then, uh, Isaiah Stalberg and Julian Blackman.

• 1:44:38Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 1:44:39Speaker 00

  So.

• 1:44:39Speaker 03

  We need more.

• 1:44:40Speaker 00

  But it's just, I, I, Kellen Moore, I think maybe he's a little nervous about his job, dude. Come on. We're not going to make fun of you. Give more game balls.

• 1:44:47Speaker 03

  This might be like, uh, if, if you're nervous about your job, you're, you're afraid of being accused of workplace theft.

• 1:44:52Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:44:52Speaker 03

  So you don't want to like give away too much merch. It could be used against you.

• 1:44:57Speaker 00

  It's a big win for the Saints though. It felt like they were in a bad spot reeling and they went straight to Paris, which I think is beautiful this time of year.

• 1:45:05Speaker 03

  Really nice over in, in, in Paris.

• 1:45:06Speaker 02

  We, that's an international, probably the number one game I was going to.

• 1:45:11Speaker 00

  You should go. You know what?

• 1:45:12Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:45:12Speaker 00

  Go.

• 1:45:13Speaker 02

  Really?

• 1:45:14Speaker 00

  I'll pay for it. Yes. We'll pay for you to go to Paris this weekend.

• 1:45:18Speaker 02

  Come on.

• 1:45:18Speaker 03

  If you're in France.

• 1:45:19Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:45:20Speaker 02

  All right.

• 1:45:20Speaker 00

  You got it. All right. Go run around.

• 1:45:24Speaker 02

  All right. Great.

• 1:45:26Speaker 00

  You're going?

• 1:45:26Speaker 02

  Oh yeah. I'll leave tomorrow.

• 1:45:28Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:45:28Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 1:45:28Speaker 00

  Cool. So you leave tomorrow, then come back Thursday night for Bears Patriots, then leave back for Paris Friday?

• 1:45:35Speaker 02

  True. Yeah. Yeah. I'll go scout.

• 1:45:39Speaker 03

  Go over there, see what's going on.

• 1:45:40Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:45:40Speaker 02

  Get a lay of the land. Get a lay of the land.

• 1:45:43Speaker 03

  See what's going on with, uh, Macron's wife too.

• 1:45:45Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:45:45Speaker 02

  Cool.

• 1:45:48Speaker 02

  Never been to France. This is exciting.

• 1:45:49Speaker 03

  Love a huge report.

• 1:45:50Speaker 00

  Have you ever been to Europe?

• 1:45:52Speaker 02

  Uh, yeah. When I was like, when I was a, a youth.

• 1:45:55Speaker 03

  Uh, and you went with Caleb.

• 1:45:56Speaker 00

  Oh yeah.

• 1:45:58Speaker 02

  Yeah. I went to Latvia as an adult.

• 1:46:00Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:46:01Speaker 03

  Out of a Latvia.

• 1:46:01Speaker 02

  And I went to England and Scotland and Wales.

• 1:46:04Speaker 00

  How old were you?

• 1:46:05Speaker 02

  Like 12.

• 1:46:07Speaker 00

  That's pretty cool.

• 1:46:07Speaker 03

  What kind of golf do you think they have in France?

• 1:46:10Speaker 02

  Uh, I don't know. Probably some, there's a couple of French guys.

• 1:46:14Speaker 00

  Maybe you just bring your clubs and walk right down, you know, uh, what's it, what's it called?

• 1:46:19Speaker 03

  Uh, Champs Elysees?

• 1:46:20Speaker 00

  Yeah. Champs Elysees. Just like, I'm here for the golf.

• 1:46:25Speaker 00

  I've got my money and I'm here for the golf.

• 1:46:27Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:46:30Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:46:30Speaker 03

  They're pretty much having a parade over there. You love parade.

• 1:46:33Speaker 00

  Yeah, you do.

• 1:46:33Speaker 03

  Taking all the daps you can.

• 1:46:34Speaker 00

  Yeah, you get so many daps. It'll probably be kisses, but yeah.

• 1:46:38Speaker 06

  I got your flights.

• 1:46:39Speaker 00

  Oh, perfect.

• 1:46:40Speaker 06

  Well, I I I found your flights. It's $2,300, but.

• 1:46:43Speaker 00

  No prob- anything for a guy Hank. You kidding me?

• 1:46:46Speaker 06

  But you're gonna have to miss Sunday show, it looks like.

• 1:46:48Speaker 03

  Oh, no.

• 1:46:48Speaker 00

  Ah, he loves doing Sunday show.

• 1:46:50Speaker 06

  Well, and also Thursday, you'd have to leave. Yeah.

• 1:46:52Speaker 00

  Well, no, he's gonna come back.

• 1:46:53Speaker 03

  Yeah, he'll come back for that. But I mean, Hank Hank loves being here when the Patriots aren't playing.

• 1:46:58Speaker 02

  I do.

• 1:46:59Speaker 03

  Just as locked in.

• 1:47:00Speaker 00

  Mm hmm.

• 1:47:01Speaker 02

  If not more.

• 1:47:02Speaker 03

  Probably more, yeah.

• 1:47:02Speaker 00

  Yeah, will you be here next Sunday?

• 1:47:04Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:47:05Speaker 03

  How do you say hungry dog in French?

• 1:47:06Speaker 00

  What time?

• 1:47:07Speaker 02

  Le hungry.

• 1:47:09Speaker 03

  Le chien. Le chien. Fem?

• 1:47:13Speaker 00

  Le hungry.

• 1:47:14Speaker 03

  Le hungry.

• 1:47:15Speaker 00

  I don't know.

• 1:47:16Speaker 02

  Hungo. I don't know, probably like halftime.

• 1:47:19Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:47:20Speaker 02

  Early games.

• 1:47:20Speaker 03

  Yeah, uh, the Saints are, I believe, eight and oh against the spread in their last eight road games.

• 1:47:28Speaker 00

  Hmm.

• 1:47:28Speaker 03

  So they they always cover away from the dome. The dome has not been good to them. The dome Cummings, the dome sweet dome. It's not. Hasn't been a good place for the Saints recently, but they've been they've been okay on the road. So they were um, they were favorites in this game, right?

• 1:47:41Speaker 00

  Yeah, one and a half.

• 1:47:42Speaker 03

  I'm trying to think what it's probably not very common for this late in the season, a team that's last place in their division to be favorites on the road against a team that's first place in theirs.

• 1:47:55Speaker 00

  That's just, that's just, that already happened, though. The Giants were favorites over the or the Cardinals were favorite over the Giants.

• 1:48:02Speaker 03

  The spread, yeah.

• 1:48:02Speaker 00

  No one, yeah, no one respects the Giants.

• 1:48:04Speaker 03

  The books hate the Giants.

• 1:48:05Speaker 00

  I mean, listen, they're they're in first place in the NFC East.

• 1:48:10Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 1:48:10Speaker 00

  By two games in the loss column.

• 1:48:13Speaker 03

  Mm hmm.

• 1:48:15Speaker 00

  I mean, that's a not insurmountable lead, but who's gonna win the NFC?

• 1:48:20Speaker 03

  I got I got a weird stat.

• 1:48:21Speaker 06

  Big game on an NFL.

• 1:48:22Speaker 00

  Who's gonna win the NFC East?

• 1:48:24Speaker 03

  Well, eh, if I could just get through like six minutes without having Greer give me insult stats and and and rattle my confidence, I'm just trying to not get embarrassed on Monday Night Football.

• 1:48:34Speaker 00

  Mm hmm.

• 1:48:34Speaker 03

  Um, there's a stat that I saw about the NFC East because obviously last week happened. Yada, yada, yada. It was bad.

• 1:48:43Speaker 00

  Mm hmm.

• 1:48:43Speaker 03

  This week, also bad.

• 1:48:46Speaker 00

  Mm hmm.

• 1:48:46Speaker 03

  And I believe that it would be the first time since the merger. If the commanders lose on Monday Night Football, the first time since the merger that a division has had no one in their division win a game for two weeks back to back.

• 1:49:00Speaker 00

  Whoa.

• 1:49:02Speaker 03

  We're we're looking at history here.

• 1:49:03Speaker 00

  Whoa.

• 1:49:04Speaker 03

  What's that look, Max?

• 1:49:06Speaker 00

  That's pretty crazy.

• 1:49:09Speaker 06

  Doesn't incorrect that.

• 1:49:10Speaker 03

  Why?

• 1:49:12Speaker 02

  Oh, no.

• 1:49:13Speaker 00

  Why?

• 1:49:14Speaker 02

  Do we have to?

• 1:49:15Speaker 06

  Eagles won the first two weeks.

• 1:49:16Speaker 00

  No, no, no, last two weeks.

• 1:49:18Speaker 03

  You big fucking dumb animal.

• 1:49:21Speaker 06

  Gotta, gotta, gotta.

• 1:49:21Speaker 00

  Big dumb animal.

• 1:49:22Speaker 03

  I focus on.

• 1:49:22Speaker 06

  I am a big dumb, I am a big dumb animal.

• 1:49:24Speaker 00

  Come on, dude.

• 1:49:27Speaker 03

  He's in LeBron season.

• 1:49:28Speaker 00

  That one, that one confused you hard.

• 1:49:30Speaker 06

  I thought you said no team has won two weeks in a row.

• 1:49:33Speaker 03

  No team.

• 1:49:35Speaker 02

  He can't hear.

• 1:49:36Speaker 03

  He he doesn't understand.

• 1:49:36Speaker 06

  All right, forget it, forget it.

• 1:49:37Speaker 03

  Max, Max.

• 1:49:39Speaker 06

  Rewind, continue.

• 1:49:40Speaker 03

  East is a division in the national.

• 1:49:41Speaker 06

  I know, I know, I get it, I get it, I get it, I get it, I get it.

• 1:49:44Speaker 03

  And there are four teams.

• 1:49:46Speaker 06

  You don't have to keep doing this. I get it.

• 1:49:47Speaker 03

  Giants, Fluffy Eagles.

• 1:49:49Speaker 06

  Full.

• 1:49:50Speaker 03

  Dallas Cowboys, Washington Commanders. Last week, none of those teams won. Why? Because the commanders and the Giants played each other and tied. This week, the Eagles lost.

• 1:50:01Speaker 06

  Correct.

• 1:50:01Speaker 03

  The Cowboys lost.

• 1:50:02Speaker 06

  Yep.

• 1:50:02Speaker 03

  The Giants lost.

• 1:50:03Speaker 06

  Yep.

• 1:50:04Speaker 03

  The commanders have the 49ers on Monday Night Football.

• 1:50:08Speaker 06

  Yep.

• 1:50:08Speaker 03

  Where they're heavy underdogs. If the commanders lose, that would be all four teams not winning again for the second week in a row. And that has never happened, at least since the merger.

• 1:50:18Speaker 06

  What if you just win?

• 1:50:19Speaker 03

  That's what I'm saying. Great opportunity.

• 1:50:21Speaker 00

  Yeah, or what if what if you don't win and then the next week, the Giants lose to the Texans and then the Cowboys and the Eagles tie?

• 1:50:30Speaker 03

  Oh, I love that.

• 1:50:31Speaker 00

  That'd be fun.

• 1:50:32Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:50:32Speaker 00

  Cause you're on a buy, right?

• 1:50:33Speaker 03

  We're on a buy, so we're, that'd be the best buy. The buy's coming at a good time.

• 1:50:37Speaker 00

  Yeah, although you get, you're getting screwed.

• 1:50:40Speaker 03

  I know.

• 1:50:41Speaker 00

  Monday Night Football to a buys, that's screwed.

• 1:50:43Speaker 03

  It's the shortest buy.

• 1:50:44Speaker 00

  The shortest buy you could possibly have.

• 1:50:46Speaker 03

  Yeah, and West Coast too, coming back.

• 1:50:48Speaker 00

  That's bullshit.

• 1:50:49Speaker 03

  We're getting fucked.

• 1:50:49Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:50:50Speaker 06

  At least you don't get a short week, though.

• 1:50:52Speaker 03

  Every week's short when you're me, Max.

• 1:50:53Speaker 00

  Hmm. Beat you to it.

• 1:50:56Speaker 06

  Why'd you do that?

• 1:50:57Speaker 00

  Beat you to it, he beat you to it. Well, they're gonna let you get it.

• 1:51:00Speaker 03

  Hmm.

• 1:51:00Speaker 00

  He snatched it. Snatched a joke.

• 1:51:02Speaker 06

  I wasn't quick enough to think of something like that.

• 1:51:05Speaker 00

  Okay, uh, Cardinals 18, Rams 16. This was the shocker of the day. The Rams are now two and four. The Cardinals are two and oh at SoFi Stadium this year. They have more wins than the two teams that play there combined, which is nuts.

• 1:51:26Speaker 03

  Wait, but the Chargers?

• 1:51:27Speaker 00

  Yeah, Chargers have none.

• 1:51:29Speaker 03

  Oh.

• 1:51:30Speaker 00

  Rams have one, Cardinals have two. Uh, the Cardinals defense, shout out the Cardinals defense. They were incredible today. Buddha Baker was everywhere. Uh, Jacoby Rissette did just enough to get six field goals. And uh, there was a questionable call at the end of the game, but it doesn't matter because the Cardinals like had the Rams in hell, Matthew Stafford in hell. They looked like shit offensively all day. Their kicker got hurt. Uh.

• 1:52:01Speaker 03

  Blake Rupi, yeah.

• 1:52:01Speaker 00

  Blake Rupi.

• 1:52:02Speaker 03

  He tried to, he tried to jack up the returner and Blake Rupi is what, 120 pounds?

• 1:52:07Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:52:08Speaker 03

  And yeah, just got fucked up on that. So they had to have the punter step in and try field goals.

• 1:52:12Speaker 00

  Yeah, good, good for the Cardinals. Uh, they, I mean, what was their, what was their over under wins going into the season? Was it two and a half?

• 1:52:19Speaker 03

  No, I think it was three and a half.

• 1:52:20Speaker 00

  Three and a half, but either way, big win. They were 12 and a half point underdogs.

• 1:52:24Speaker 03

  They've got two of the biggest, like craziest wins of the year.

• 1:52:27Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:52:28Speaker 03

  Uh, and both in the stadium, I guess.

• 1:52:30Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:52:30Speaker 03

  But uh, yeah, they're just ruining everybody's survivor pools. If someone took and still had the Rams in it, sorry, you got fucked again.

• 1:52:36Speaker 00

  Big time.

• 1:52:37Speaker 03

  Kyron Williams, it feels like there's some bad vibes going on with the Rams.

• 1:52:42Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:52:42Speaker 03

  And I I said this last week. Now, the schedule did, in theory, soften up a little bit for the Rams, but they're they're fucking around a little bit too much and they're running out of wiggle room.

• 1:52:51Speaker 00

  I think they might just be bad.

• 1:52:52Speaker 03

  They might be bad. Uh, there's a lot of bad vibes. Kyron Williams was asked after the game um, why he thought that the Rams couldn't sustain uh, the energy drive to drive, why it was so inconsistent. And he said, can't tell you, bro, probably because I'm not out there.

• 1:53:07Speaker 00

  Hmm.

• 1:53:08Speaker 03

  So he's not happy with his usage rate. Personally, I think Blake Corum's a pretty good player. Um, so I don't know. It just, it's really bad vibes.

• 1:53:17Speaker 00

  They could just be.

• 1:53:18Speaker 03

  McFay seems like he's not having a good time at all.

• 1:53:20Speaker 00

  No, and and.

• 1:53:21Speaker 03

  And then Devonte Adams might be seriously injured now.

• 1:53:25Speaker 00

  Oh, he was?

• 1:53:26Speaker 03

  It was a thing where he, it was non-contact.

• 1:53:28Speaker 02

  Non-contact.

• 1:53:29Speaker 03

  He looked back.

• 1:53:29Speaker 02

  It it.

• 1:53:32Speaker 02

  Doctor, Doctor Lockwood saying it's Achilles.

• 1:53:35Speaker 00

  When did this happen?

• 1:53:36Speaker 02

  End of the game.

• 1:53:37Speaker 00

  End of the game.

• 1:53:37Speaker 02

  Literally the last minute.

• 1:53:39Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:53:41Speaker 02

  He does the like turnaround.

• 1:53:42Speaker 00

  Wait, what did, what did uh, what did Dr. Chow say? The available angle doesn't reveal what happened to, we're looking for more, okay.

• 1:53:51Speaker 02

  He did the turnaround.

• 1:53:52Speaker 03

  He looked back at it and uh.

• 1:53:54Speaker 06

  This Twitter doctor says left knee versus hamstring. I don't know what that means. It could be either one.

• 1:54:00Speaker 02

  Those kids, come on.

• 1:54:02Speaker 03

  Per Hank?

• 1:54:03Speaker 02

  Per me.

• 1:54:04Speaker 06

  But.

• 1:54:05Speaker 00

  But Hank's not a doctor. He's like, kind of, wait, is he walking around after or no?

• 1:54:11Speaker 00

  I don't know. He didn't really do the look back. No, he he didn't, Hank. I'm watching it right now. When did he look back? He looked back for the ball.

• 1:54:18Speaker 03

  He was already looking back.

• 1:54:20Speaker 00

  Yeah, okay, I see what you're saying a little bit. Yeah, no, the Rams are in in a certain level of hell right now where the takes are flying. I want, I want to throw a couple takes that I saw after the game out to you guys and and you let me know which one is is the hotter take. The first one was from uh, Turf Show Times, Turf Show Times, SB Nation, Los Angeles Rams Community. Uh, this is from JB Scott. He said, it's time to start Ty Simpson.

• 1:54:48Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:54:50Speaker 00

  He said, we we drafted him. You didn't need to draft him, but you did. Now there's a QB controversy. Matthew Stafford has not looked sharp this year, I will say that, but. It's time. It's time for Ty Simpson. What do you think?

• 1:55:03Speaker 03

  I agree. I agree with it because I would just like to see Ty Simpson, what it looks like.

• 1:55:07Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:55:07Speaker 03

  But if I'm trying to win football games, no, absolutely. That's insane.

• 1:55:11Speaker 00

  Okay. Uh, this one I really like. This is from LA Sports, E L A Y E Sports. Uh, I think he is Adam. He, he is a broadcast TV, uh, LA Sports fan. This is what is my favorite hot take I've seen in a while. Rams need to move on from McVay, not because he's a bad coach, but his coaching tree is too big. There's too many teams that can beat him because they know exactly what the Rams are gonna do.

• 1:55:41Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:55:42Speaker 00

  I love this.

• 1:55:43Speaker 03

  Yep. They figured him out.

• 1:55:44Speaker 00

  But they didn't have to figure him out. They, they didn't have to figure him out. They just had to, they, they already knew because he told them.

• 1:55:49Speaker 03

  The, the league as a whole has figured out McVay because his coaching tree has become the only tree.

• 1:55:54Speaker 00

  He has, he has, uh, coaching tree sons. He has, uh, branches everywhere. And the branches have gained, what is it sentient thought? And they're now fighting back and, and they know every single move he's gonna do before he does it.

• 1:56:09Speaker 03

  I like that. I like that take a lot.

• 1:56:11Speaker 00

  It's a great take.

• 1:56:11Speaker 03

  There's probably, um, a small amount of truth in it.

• 1:56:14Speaker 00

  Oh, definitely a little bit. I mean,

• 1:56:16Speaker 03

  He's changed, he has changed the league for sure.

• 1:56:18Speaker 00

  The way the Cardinals were playing defense against the Rams, Michael Ford definitely knew what he was doing in terms of making Stafford uncomfortable. They were going after, I think they had a shuffle in offensive line or someone was hurt. Uh, they were blitzing the hell out of them. Like you could see McVay was, was trying to out that specifically. Do you guys remember that fourth down, like fourth and six? It felt like the entire second half was the Rams, like, oh, here come the Rams. They're finally gonna do it. Nope. Turnover on downs. Cardinals punt again. Oh, here come the Rams. So there was one of those sequences where I think it was like fourth and eight, and they tried to do a Kyron Williams screen.

• 1:56:55Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:56:55Speaker 00

  That was like, it was, it was like a, he threw, Stafford had to throw the ball like you're fourth and eight. And he threw the ball 10 yards short of the sticks. And I think that might've been one of those moments where McVay was like, I don't know what the fuck to do to keep coming after me. I gotta figure this out. And, uh, so yeah, maybe this guy's right.

• 1:57:14Speaker 03

  And it's just that any team that's ever called the dream team before the season starts, it's not gonna work out.

• 1:57:19Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:57:19Speaker 03

  It's not gonna be like you thought it was gonna be.

• 1:57:21Speaker 00

  Nam de Asenwa.

• 1:57:22Speaker 03

  You can't say, you can't say dream team in the NFL.

• 1:57:24Speaker 00

  No. Steve Nash on the Lakers.

• 1:57:26Speaker 03

  The best part about all this is that, uh, McVay has to sit, I think it's, I think it spirals for him because he's got the photographic memory.

• 1:57:35Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:57:35Speaker 03

  So the way the season started in Australia, he just had a whole new rolodex of shitty play memories.

• 1:57:41Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:57:42Speaker 03

  That takes up space in his head and then it snowballs. And now he's, he's, he's just got, the ram is full inside of his head. And, uh, I think, I think, I think they'll be fine.

• 1:57:53Speaker 00

  Dog shit.

• 1:57:54Speaker 03

  Very bad play.

• 1:57:54Speaker 00

  Fourth and eight, he throws it 12 yards, uh, short of the sticks on a screen.

• 1:57:59Speaker 03

  I think that they'll make the playoffs. I don't, I don't wanna take that back. I don't think they'll be fine. I think they will make the playoffs. And this might be the end of the line for the Stafford.

• 1:58:07Speaker 00

  I don't know now.

• 1:58:08Speaker 03

  I think maybe wild card.

• 1:58:09Speaker 00

  I thought they were gonna make the playoffs because I thought they were gonna start ripping off wins. And now, I mean, it's the whole time we've been saying that, oh, it's gonna be three teams from the NFC West, right? Well, what if it's now just three teams from the NFC North instead? I mean, the NFC North has, uh, every team is, you know, is the Vikings five and oh, Packers, four and two, Bears, four and two, Lions, three and two on a bye.

• 1:58:34Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:58:36Speaker 00

  So they're already two games behind in the loss column for, from the entire NFC North. Now, obviously when NFC North starts playing each other, that's gonna change a little bit, but yeah.

• 1:58:49Speaker 03

  When was the last time that there, that, that McVay had a player that was like openly hostile to him, to the media like Kyron Williams?

• 1:58:57Speaker 00

  I don't know.

• 1:58:57Speaker 03

  Appears to be, I won't, I won't say openly hostile, but at, at the very least, like openly passive aggressive.

• 1:59:02Speaker 00

  I don't know.

• 1:59:04Speaker 03

  I don't know. I don't know how he handles something like that because I don't think, it's a credit to him that we really haven't seen that much of that.

• 1:59:09Speaker 00

  Yeah. Uh, did you guys see this one? Did you hear this one? Uh, Miles Garrett, uh, really asked, demanded a trade from the first place Browns to the last place Rams.

• 1:59:22Speaker 03

  That's good.

• 1:59:22Speaker 00

  It's good, right?

• 1:59:23Speaker 03

  That's very good.

• 1:59:24Speaker 00

  I think that joke was made 10,000 times today.

• 1:59:26Speaker 03

  When is, when is Garrett getting back? I know he's, he's reeling to Halloween, so he's probably got plans for the next week and a half.

• 1:59:32Speaker 00

  For sure. For sure. Dude, the play, well, I can't believe we're looking at the playoff picture, but I guess it's like, I mean, we're, we are a third of the way through the season, which is kinda crazy to say. Cause it happened like that.

• 1:59:43Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:59:44Speaker 00

  But right now, if the playoffs started today and the AFC would be the Chiefs, one seed, Bills, Jaguars, Browns, Patriots, five seed. Oh, wow. Hank versus Cleveland.

• 1:59:56Speaker 03

  Love it.

• 1:59:57Speaker 00

  Broncos, six, Steelers, seven. And then in the NFC, it'd be the Niners, one, Vikings, two, Panthers, three, Giants, four, Packers, five, Bears, six, Lions, seven. So that would be the entire NFC North. The entire NFC North's in there right now.

• 2:00:15Speaker 03

  That's awesome. I love that.

• 2:00:16Speaker 00

  Yeah. Yeah. Seahawks wouldn't be in. I don't think that's how it's gonna end up, but the point remains that it has been kind of assumed that it's going to be the entire NFC or, or three teams in the NFC West, and then someone else is gonna have to figure out how to sneak in that wild card. Who doesn't win a division. Now it feels like it's gonna be the opposite where it's like maybe three teams from the NFC, uh, North. And someone's gonna have to sneak in from, from another division.

• 2:00:45Speaker 03

  And the Rams have the Raiders next week.

• 2:00:49Speaker 00

  Raiders, right?

• 2:00:50Speaker 06

  Yes, Raiders.

• 2:00:51Speaker 03

  Is that in Vegas or is that at home?

• 2:00:53Speaker 00

  Desperate team.

• 2:00:54Speaker 06

  I think it's in Vegas.

• 2:00:55Speaker 00

  Well, that's probably good for them.

• 2:00:56Speaker 03

  Yeah. I was gonna say that, like, there'll probably be, there might be more Rams fans that make the trip to Vegas.

• 2:01:02Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:01:03Speaker 03

  Than there would be because it like, Los Angeles is still very much a Raiders town.

• 2:01:07Speaker 00

  At Raiders, first Chargers, at commanders, at Cardinals.

• 2:01:13Speaker 00

  Don't have their bye week, it looks like for a while. When is their bye week? Am I really bad at math? I might be bad at math in terms of trying to figure out their bye week.

• 2:01:26Speaker 06

  Eleven.

• 2:01:27Speaker 00

  Oh yeah. Their bye week gets screwed too. Cause they have to do the bye week and then they get, they have to play Wednesday. Uh, before Thanksgiving, which I guess they, it's kinda like you get two bye because then you get full Thanksgiving after.

• 2:01:43Speaker 03

  I think that's good.

• 2:01:44Speaker 00

  This game, yeah, probably is. Yeah.

• 2:01:46Speaker 03

  Probably means that we're one week even further away from seeing Carson back.

• 2:01:50Speaker 00

  Yeah, I'd say so.

• 2:01:52Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:01:52Speaker 00

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• 2:03:47Speaker 00

  Okay, we've got the Chiefs 22, Chargers six. Hank, are you ready to be done with the Chargers?

• 2:03:57Speaker 02

  I am ready to be done with the Chargers. I am mentally done with the Chargers, but I'm a loyal guy and I can't, I can't give it up.

• 2:04:06Speaker 00

  You bet on the Chargers again today.

• 2:04:07Speaker 02

  I bet on the Chargers again today. Money line.

• 2:04:09Speaker 00

  They were never close to, well, no, they were close to scoring once.

• 2:04:14Speaker 02

  Their offense is horrible. Mike McDaniel should, should, should have already been fired.

• 2:04:20Speaker 00

  Well, he's the fall guy. It's clear that he's gonna be, they're, they're going on a bye this week. I feel like they're gonna make those adjustments. Shane was saying that he changed Justin, Justin Herbert's footwork. That's part of the reason why Justin Herbert has had a bad year. I think he also, Justin Herbert, I think he is the first quarterback in five years to have an interception in every single game to start a season through week six. That's not good.

• 2:04:45Speaker 06

  Consistency.

• 2:04:46Speaker 00

  That's consistency. I actually came away from this game and the Chiefs are really good. People don't need to hear us talk about how good the Chiefs are. Kenneth Walker's awesome. Patrick Mahomes looks totally fine. This was like a completely non-competitive game and the fact that outside of Justin Herbert throwing an unbelievable, he basically had to place the ball from 57 yards away into Quentin Johnson's like hands and then they still couldn't get a touchdown on, starting at the one yard line.

• 2:05:13Speaker 06

  Losing Lad McConkey in like the first five minutes was bad.

• 2:05:16Speaker 00

  Yeah. So I, I walked away from this game though. I, this was the first game that I officially, and this is not excusing Justin Herbert. Big stupid pick guy. It's the first time I felt bad for Justin Herbert because he, he might be the sorest man in the world. That one, that one hit that he took in the end zone where his knee just went in half and then he just was still in the game. I don't know how he's still.

• 2:05:37Speaker 02

  He also got like hip drops, like a real, an actual, an actual hip drop. Like a dirty hip drop.

• 2:05:42Speaker 00

  Right. He just gets annihilated every single game and they suck. They're so bad. And I think Harbaugh might be the most depressed man in the world.

• 2:05:52Speaker 03

  He's upset. They asked him about the, the, the play calling. They said, I have to ask you point blank, is Mike going to continue calling plays? He said, we're going to look at everything. I feel bad for our players, our team, our coaches, our fans. The offense needs to be addressed. That sounds like Mike McDaniel fired. That sounds like, as close as it gets to a coach telling you that they're gonna make a, make a big change. They do need to make a change too. They're, the turnovers just, just destroy them. Cause sometimes the Chargers move the football.

• 2:06:20Speaker 00

  A little bit.

• 2:06:21Speaker 03

  Despite, in spite of themselves.

• 2:06:22Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:06:23Speaker 03

  Occasionally they can put together decent drives. They're actually, I think if you look at the stats, they're about average on third down in the NFL. Like they're in the middle of the pack. And then these drives, when they do have extended drives, they always end in heartbreak. And so you've just taken all this time off the clock and accomplished absolutely nothing. Whereas some of the other bad offenses in the NFL, they at least, they, they typically have the good sense to just kind of like give up on a drive early.

• 2:06:51Speaker 00

  Right.

• 2:06:51Speaker 03

  Forget about all that wasted time. But the Chargers turnovers, they're just.

• 2:06:57Speaker 00

  They're so bad.

• 2:06:57Speaker 03

  Unreal, unreal bad. And I don't know. They, they've always been hurt. It feels like the last five years, they've been, they've been hurt the entire time. But I don't remember Herbert playing this poorly ever.

• 2:07:10Speaker 00

  No, I mean, he's, his offensive line is garbage and his weapons are near zero and he's bad. Like everything, it's a perfect storm to explain how bad they have been. They have, in the fourth quarters this year, we're in week six. They've scored 13 points in six fourth quarters. They have seven turnovers in six fourth quarters. 11 sacks in six fourth quarters. It's just like, they're just so bad. It was, again, I can't stress enough. I, I don't know if you guys felt the same way. I never in a million years thought the Chargers, after this game started and the Chiefs went down the field

• 2:07:53Speaker 00

  and Kenneth Walker scored a touchdown, I was like, that's it. That's the game. Like the Chargers cannot do anything.

• 2:07:58Speaker 06

  Hank kept, Hank kept saying they were in it.

• 2:08:01Speaker 03

  No, they were never.

• 2:08:02Speaker 00

  They were never in it.

• 2:08:03Speaker 06

  No. The whole time you were, you were fighting.

• 2:08:05Speaker 00

  The office was so bad.

• 2:08:06Speaker 06

  I respect that.

• 2:08:07Speaker 00

  And, and the Chiefs are like definitely one of those teams that they, they play to their competition and that once they know they have you beat, they kind of, they're not gonna like try to just absolutely kill you. They'll just take the air out of the ball. The Chiefs could have done whatever they wanted today.

• 2:08:23Speaker 02

  Chargers couldn't score. They couldn't score. They, like you said, they, they had the ball on the one yard line and couldn't.

• 2:08:28Speaker 00

  Couldn't score.

• 2:08:28Speaker 02

  It weren't even really close to scoring.

• 2:08:30Speaker 00

  We're banning Chargers from our, our K parlay. I think we have to. Just all, all, all in all cannot put any.

• 2:08:37Speaker 02

  And they have a bye next week. So I can, I don't have to worry about them for a hungry dog.

• 2:08:40Speaker 00

  Cleanse ourselves from them.

• 2:08:41Speaker 03

  It'd be nice. It'd actually be really nice.

• 2:08:44Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:08:44Speaker 06

  I feel like

• 2:08:47Speaker 06

  coming off the bye, they get the Rams. I feel, that looks like a hungry, hungry dog.

• 2:08:51Speaker 02

  Oh yeah. They're in. They're already in.

• 2:08:55Speaker 00

  They're gonna win that game.

• 2:08:57Speaker 03

  Do you guys think that this is a, like a permanent problem? Is, is Justin Herbert permanently damaged right now? Or is it like, he can get back with the right environment, right coaching?

• 2:09:09Speaker 00

  I don't know.

• 2:09:11Speaker 03

  I don't know either. If you would ask me this, cause if you, if you asked me two weeks ago, I would have said, yeah, he can get back. But I don't, now.

• 2:09:20Speaker 00

  I don't think, I don't know.

• 2:09:21Speaker 03

  Now I don't know.

• 2:09:22Speaker 06

  What do you think the price tag would be for Justin Herbert right now?

• 2:09:25Speaker 03

  That's what I'm wondering. Like.

• 2:09:27Speaker 02

  Fourth round pick?

• 2:09:29Speaker 06

  No.

• 2:09:31Speaker 00

  You're so fucking mean.

• 2:09:33Speaker 02

  NFL, I feel like they don't, you don't, there's no value in players.

• 2:09:36Speaker 03

  Yeah. A year ago, you would have said a first round.

• 2:09:39Speaker 02

  What would, what would J J McCarthy get?

• 2:09:40Speaker 06

  More than a first round.

• 2:09:41Speaker 00

  Definitely a first round pick.

• 2:09:43Speaker 03

  I think it's.

• 2:09:44Speaker 02

  What was J J McCarthy?

• 2:09:46Speaker 00

  I mean, J J McCarthy was never good in the NFL.

• 2:09:49Speaker 06

  But the contract too.

• 2:09:50Speaker 00

  Justin Herbert, the contract's probably gonna be cheap eventually. You know, like what'd they pay him? Everyone, every, every quarterback contract, contract goes up.

• 2:10:02Speaker 06

  I'm with Hank. It lowers value.

• 2:10:05Speaker 06

  That's cause you want him.

• 2:10:05Speaker 03

  What would the Colts have to give up?

• 2:10:07Speaker 00

  Oh, wait. Means you want him?

• 2:10:09Speaker 06

  Yes.

• 2:10:11Speaker 06

  I don't know.

• 2:10:12Speaker 02

  Oh, that'd be funny.

• 2:10:12Speaker 06

  I don't, I, I don't want to put it out to the universe. Why would that be funny?

• 2:10:16Speaker 02

  It'd just be funny.

• 2:10:18Speaker 00

  Why?

• 2:10:18Speaker 02

  So like when New York gets hope and then.

• 2:10:21Speaker 00

  How funny how.

• 2:10:22Speaker 02

  They get a quarterback that I think is good and he's terrible. Justin Herbert is a loser.

• 2:10:28Speaker 00

  He actually.

• 2:10:28Speaker 06

  That's fair.

• 2:10:29Speaker 00

  Unfortunately, anyone who disagrees with that, he, uh, he's now number one in most losses since 2020 as a starting quarterback.

• 2:10:39Speaker 06

  Big stupid loser guy.

• 2:10:41Speaker 00

  That also is a testament to the fact that he just plays every game, even though he gets like killed. But yeah, what, what's his contract?

• 2:10:49Speaker 03

  I don't think I'd use the word loser when referring to Justin Herbert.

• 2:10:52Speaker 00

  K D's gonna be so mad at you for this conversation.

• 2:10:54Speaker 03

  Herbert's doing pretty good. At me?

• 2:10:56Speaker 00

  No, no.

• 2:10:56Speaker 06

  He's not a loser in life. He's a loser in football.

• 2:10:59Speaker 03

  Yeah, he's.

• 2:10:59Speaker 02

  As a quarterback, he loses.

• 2:11:01Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 2:11:02Speaker 02

  When it matters most, he has not won even once.

• 2:11:06Speaker 03

  He has never won a game that matters.

• 2:11:08Speaker 02

  Yeah. Loser. If you don't win games that matter.

• 2:11:12Speaker 00

  He won the Rose Bowl against Wisconsin.

• 2:11:14Speaker 02

  Then you're a loser.

• 2:11:16Speaker 06

  He's a loser in football. He's not a loser in life. He's a loser in football.

• 2:11:20Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:11:20Speaker 06

  By like, and that's factual that he loses a lot.

• 2:11:25Speaker 03

  He loses a lot.

• 2:11:26Speaker 00

  He loses a lot.

• 2:11:27Speaker 03

  Is that, the stat is he's lost the most football games of anyone since 2020?

• 2:11:30Speaker 06

  Since 2020, yeah.

• 2:11:31Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:11:31Speaker 03

  That's crazy.

• 2:11:33Speaker 00

  But again, it's.

• 2:11:33Speaker 03

  Cause he's been on some decent teams.

• 2:11:36Speaker 00

  Yeah, but it's just, he started every game. You know what I mean?

• 2:11:38Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:11:39Speaker 00

  The, so it's.

• 2:11:40Speaker 06

  Quarterbacks are pretty good on that list.

• 2:11:41Speaker 00

  Yeah. Baker Mayfield is tied with him. So and Trevor Lawrence is, is, is third. Daniel Jones, Jacoby Brissette.

• 2:11:50Speaker 03

  Shout out Jacoby.

• 2:11:51Speaker 00

  Shout out Jacoby.

• 2:11:52Speaker 03

  Wait, like if you're the Colts, what would, what would it take for the Colts to get Justin Herbert?

• 2:11:58Speaker 00

  I don't know. They don't have their first round pick.

• 2:12:00Speaker 03

  That's true. Yeah. Oh, who does?

• 2:12:03Speaker 00

  The Jets.

• 2:12:04Speaker 03

  Memes.

• 2:12:05Speaker 00

  I bet you.

• 2:12:06Speaker 06

  I don't, I don't want to give up. I don't want to give up the first round.

• 2:12:09Speaker 00

  I feel like Justin Herbert would still go for.

• 2:12:11Speaker 03

  You got like nine of them.

• 2:12:12Speaker 00

  Uh, would he go for two first? Would he go for two first? Why not?

• 2:12:16Speaker 06

  I think one.

• 2:12:17Speaker 03

  I think, I think one now. Yeah.

• 2:12:19Speaker 06

  I think one.

• 2:12:19Speaker 00

  He'd still go for two. I wish we had like a.

• 2:12:23Speaker 06

  Maybe a first and a fourth.

• 2:12:27Speaker 03

  Cause it's not, I, but the thing is, I'm not sure it would be a good deal even to.

• 2:12:32Speaker 00

  No, no, I'm not.

• 2:12:33Speaker 03

  Cause he's, he was, he was really good. He's, he's been a, a very good player. Yes, he's had struggles in the playoffs, but it's never looked like this before.

• 2:12:42Speaker 06

  I think Hank has a point.

• 2:12:44Speaker 00

  AI says three first round. Okay.

• 2:12:47Speaker 06

  No way. Maybe, maybe two. I don't know. Maybe first and third.

• 2:12:52Speaker 02

  Fourth rounder.

• 2:12:53Speaker 00

  I think two is the answer.

• 2:12:55Speaker 03

  You think a fourth rounder, Hank?

• 2:12:56Speaker 02

  Yeah. And like a second.

• 2:13:00Speaker 03

  And we'll throw in a second. It's a, it's gonna be a fourth round pick and we'll toss in a second.

• 2:13:07Speaker 03

  And Gino.

• 2:13:08Speaker 00

  Hank's, Hank's in, Hank's in a mode right now for people who are listening of, uh, taking like a, a cross country flight. He's got his shoes off. He's kind of stretching out. He's got sweatpants on.

• 2:13:19Speaker 02

  Tight. My body's tight.

• 2:13:21Speaker 00

  Too much golf this weekend?

• 2:13:23Speaker 02

  Possibly.

• 2:13:24Speaker 00

  How many holes?

• 2:13:25Speaker 02

  Uh, just 36.

• 2:13:27Speaker 00

  Oh, wait. On Saturday alone?

• 2:13:29Speaker 02

  No.

• 2:13:30Speaker 00

  Just Sunday morning?

• 2:13:31Speaker 02

  Friday, Saturday.

• 2:13:32Speaker 00

  Oh, Friday, Saturday. Wait, so Friday's part of the weekend?

• 2:13:36Speaker 06

  Ooh.

• 2:13:39Speaker 02

  Well, when you work Sunday, we have a hybrid weekend.

• 2:13:42Speaker 00

  We do have a hybrid weekend. Where we have a mix of a weekend. Yeah.

• 2:13:48Speaker 03

  Every weekend's a hybrid weekend for you, Hank.

• 2:13:49Speaker 00

  What time tomorrow?

• 2:13:50Speaker 03

  In that three.

• 2:13:52Speaker 02

  Ah, we'll be here.

• 2:13:55Speaker 02

  And then like three o'clock.

• 2:13:57Speaker 03

  Was it the golf of the weekend? Was this?

• 2:13:59Speaker 02

  It's for Jerry.

• 2:14:00Speaker 03

  Call in culture?

• 2:14:00Speaker 00

  You got it. You got it.

• 2:14:02Speaker 02

  Ah, no, tomorrow is tomorrow. Tomorrow is Jersey Jerry.

• 2:14:05Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 2:14:06Speaker 03

  Wow. Okay.

• 2:14:07Speaker 00

  That's a rivalry.

• 2:14:08Speaker 03

  And then Tuesday.

• 2:14:09Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:14:11Speaker 03

  Work. You called me out.

• 2:14:12Speaker 02

  Correct.

• 2:14:13Speaker 03

  I'm calling you in.

• 2:14:14Speaker 02

  Correct.

• 2:14:14Speaker 03

  On Tuesday.

• 2:14:15Speaker 02

  Correct.

• 2:14:16Speaker 03

  And then is that the end of the callouts?

• 2:14:19Speaker 02

  We'll see. We'll see how those those matches go.

• 2:14:22Speaker 03

  Wait, so if you.

• 2:14:23Speaker 00

  What time you guys play?

• 2:14:24Speaker 03

  If you lose the callouts, then it's over, right?

• 2:14:27Speaker 02

  Three thirty.

• 2:14:27Speaker 00

  We have an interview at two.

• 2:14:29Speaker 02

  Correct.

• 2:14:30Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:14:31Speaker 02

  Three thirty.

• 2:14:33Speaker 00

  Love it. Little little dusk golf. It's beautiful.

• 2:14:36Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's just nine holes.

• 2:14:37Speaker 00

  Yeah. Uh, okay. Last game. Bills. So, uh, consensus. We need that quote card. Justin Herbert would command a second.

• 2:14:46Speaker 03

  No, fourth.

• 2:14:46Speaker 00

  Fourth rounder and.

• 2:14:48Speaker 02

  I'm throwing a second.

• 2:14:49Speaker 06

  Throw in a second.

• 2:14:52Speaker 06

  Hank.

• 2:14:52Speaker 00

  But the fourth rounder has to lead the chef retreat.

• 2:14:55Speaker 06

  I think it would be two firsts.

• 2:14:56Speaker 00

  Like it's two firsts. It's two firsts. What are we talking about? It's two firsts.

• 2:15:00Speaker 03

  I guess it depends on which which team.

• 2:15:02Speaker 00

  It's two firsts.

• 2:15:03Speaker 06

  No, I think it's two firsts.

• 2:15:03Speaker 00

  But he's a loser. I know, but it's still two firsts.

• 2:15:08Speaker 00

  We'll ask a real GM. I I.

• 2:15:10Speaker 06

  I feel like a real GM may even say three.

• 2:15:12Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah.

• 2:15:13Speaker 03

  Well, what about the fact that he could retire?

• 2:15:15Speaker 00

  What did Micah Parsons go for? I know.

• 2:15:17Speaker 06

  He also.

• 2:15:17Speaker 00

  Way better, but like that's a different position. It's a quarterback.

• 2:15:20Speaker 06

  He also has a no a no trade and Madison Beer probably likes living in LA.

• 2:15:25Speaker 03

  Okay, yeah, good point.

• 2:15:26Speaker 00

  Oh, what about to the Rams?

• 2:15:30Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:15:30Speaker 06

  That could work.

• 2:15:31Speaker 03

  For Ty Simpson, straight up.

• 2:15:33Speaker 00

  No.

• 2:15:34Speaker 03

  And.

• 2:15:34Speaker 00

  Chargers would have to throw in something.

• 2:15:36Speaker 03

  And send Puna back.

• 2:15:37Speaker 00

  For Ty Simpson? They'd have to throw Chargers have to throw in a first.

• 2:15:41Speaker 03

  Have things gotten bad enough in Los Angeles where Justin Herbert would even think about waiving his no trade clause?

• 2:15:48Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:15:49Speaker 03

  That's the question.

• 2:15:50Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:15:50Speaker 03

  And maybe go to a place with, uh, no state income tax.

• 2:15:53Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:15:54Speaker 03

  Tennessee.

• 2:15:56Speaker 00

  That'd be interesting. And the Chiefs are just really, really good. The Chiefs, I mean, they're. Create your, uh.

• 2:16:03Speaker 00

  Kenneth Walker just changed their whole team. That that they're gonna be. I feel like Chiefs are going.

• 2:16:09Speaker 03

  They're they're very, very.

• 2:16:10Speaker 00

  It just feels that. It feels like. You guys ever, you guys hear, uh, listen to Mumford and Sung Suns at all, especially in the fall?

• 2:16:18Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 2:16:19Speaker 00

  They have that song, Kansas City. Every time it comes on on my Spotify like shuffle, I just think that like of, uh. The AFC Championship game, they're gonna play that as the bumper music going to like a really cold Kansas City and being like. The Chiefs are back. That can you see it? You know what song I'm talking about memes?

• 2:16:37Speaker 06

  Oh, yeah.

• 2:16:38Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:16:38Speaker 06

  It'll be the intro.

• 2:16:39Speaker 00

  It'll be the intro and it's like, here come the Chiefs. The the dynasty's back. The Chiefs are back. It's gonna be, you know, 10 degrees and Patrick Mahomes is gonna be all bundled up and it's gonna be like, here they come.

• 2:16:50Speaker 06

  Narrated by Jason Sudeikis.

• 2:16:52Speaker 00

  Yep. Yep. I can just go. It's call. It's caller shot right now. That's what they're gonna use.

• 2:16:56Speaker 03

  Maybe Paul Rudd.

• 2:16:57Speaker 00

  It's a good song. I do like the song.

• 2:16:59Speaker 03

  Uh, Kenneth Walker is having such a good start of the season. He's the third running back all time with 650 rush yards, six. Uh, plus yards per rush and six plus rush touchdowns in the first five games of a season. Third running back all time. The other two, it's Kenneth Walker, it's OJ Simpson and it's Jim Brown.

• 2:17:17Speaker 00

  Damn.

• 2:17:18Speaker 03

  All star football players, even even better human beings.

• 2:17:22Speaker 00

  Mm hmm. Kenneth is by far the best human.

• 2:17:24Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 2:17:25Speaker 00

  Okay, last game. Bills thirty three Raiders thirty. Josh Allen, that that that touchdown to to Keon Coleman was. The most Josh Allen you could get.

• 2:17:36Speaker 03

  Pressing all the buttons.

• 2:17:37Speaker 00

  Well, it was just, and it was, it was such a perfect. Uh, everyone is so scared of Josh Allen making plays with his feet that the entire Raiders team were like. Red alert. We have to stop him. He's leaving the pocket. And he's like, ah, fuck it. And just flicked it to Keon Coleman. The improvisation is awesome to watch. The Bills offense is humming right now. I think they scored on. I think they only had two drives that didn't end in a touchdown in this game or or points in this game. They're. James Cook looks good. He's got the new technique where he's holding his wrist. And then did you see Jim Nance almost broke his his wrist trying to punch it out of J.J. Watt's hand?

• 2:18:17Speaker 03

  He might have. He might have had the old boxer's fracture. He hit it and then he was he was wearing like a, uh, a cast on it later on.

• 2:18:23Speaker 00

  He was?

• 2:18:24Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:18:24Speaker 00

  Actually?

• 2:18:25Speaker 03

  Yeah, he had. It was either some sort of bandage or like.

• 2:18:28Speaker 00

  That's hilarious.

• 2:18:29Speaker 03

  It was a splint. You could tell by the way he hit it. He looked at it. He was like, oh, I haven't felt that. He the look that came over his face was that was the look of a man that.

• 2:18:36Speaker 00

  I made a mistake.

• 2:18:37Speaker 03

  That might not be able to play golf for the next month.

• 2:18:39Speaker 00

  Yeah. Yeah. Uh, but yeah, the the Joe Brady offense. Joe Brady is also the first coach to begin his coaching career with a five and one record since Kevin O'Connell and Brian Dable in 2022. They scored. Yeah, they scored on seven to nine of their drives. Their defense is still bad, although I shout out Jim Leonard. Uh, putting Christian Benford on Brock Bowers was genius and it actually worked. Brock Bowers was kind of a non factor in this game when Christian Benford was on him. And yeah, the Raiders like probably are kicking themselves because if they could have just. Like Josh Allen took care of the football. Kirk Cousins had one costly interception in the second half. They also couldn't do, they couldn't convert. In the red zone to touchdowns and that was the difference in the game.

• 2:19:22Speaker 03

  The crazy thing is when when Brock Bowers is covered, they have Michael Mayer who looks exactly like Brock Bowers until you see that the seven's not a nine, actually.

• 2:19:30Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:19:31Speaker 03

  Uh, yeah, great game, great game plan by the Bills. Um. The defense does concern me though. I know that they like, yeah, some elements of it have shown signs of improvement. I think, uh, I think that might be a fatal flaw for the Bills unless I are they getting anybody back?

• 2:19:47Speaker 00

  Same. That's the same as every year.

• 2:19:49Speaker 03

  Cause in the past, they've been really injured on defense and then maybe they'll get one or two guys back later on in the year. This just kind of seems to be what they are.

• 2:19:57Speaker 00

  Yeah. No, I I think this is what they are. I don't think there's much that's gonna change. Uh, they're gonna just try to. Josh Allen's gonna try to fight his way through it.

• 2:20:07Speaker 03

  There was, uh. An incident on the field. C D Deuce got ejected from the game for spitting.

• 2:20:12Speaker 00

  Oh, no way.

• 2:20:13Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:20:14Speaker 00

  No one could have seen that coming.

• 2:20:15Speaker 03

  Didn't see it coming. And then, uh, other people were chiming in. You check said that C D Deuce spit on him last year in the, uh, the Bears forty Niners game.

• 2:20:25Speaker 00

  Yep, makes sense.

• 2:20:26Speaker 03

  Apparently this is a thing that that he does.

• 2:20:29Speaker 00

  You, yeah, this is the least surprising. I mean, you check said that, but it when when I was watching the game, they're like, yeah, he. He might have spit on him. It's like, yeah, no duh. C D Deuce, this is a C D Deuce experience. It's also like. C D Deuce being on your team in 2026 because he was on my team last year. If he's playing meaningful snaps, you've got a problem. You know what I mean? Like the Bears defense had a problem last year. We were not, it was not a good unit. When he's on your, when he's playing for your team at this point in his career, you got a problem. Do you disagree, Max?

• 2:21:04Speaker 03

  I think he's okay.

• 2:21:04Speaker 06

  Yeah, he won a Super Bowl two years ago.

• 2:21:06Speaker 03

  Yeah, I think.

• 2:21:06Speaker 00

  No, I know, but the last two years, like he's been passed around.

• 2:21:09Speaker 03

  I think I think.

• 2:21:10Speaker 06

  Yeah, I think it's more so.

• 2:21:11Speaker 03

  More the off. Off field stuff.

• 2:21:13Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:21:14Speaker 03

  And like he's a live wire. It's actually a testament to how good at football he actually is. The fact that he's still in the league was just like 10 years, nine.

• 2:21:21Speaker 00

  He was on a really good defense that.

• 2:21:23Speaker 06

  But he was really.

• 2:21:25Speaker 00

  I know, but he was also on a really good defense. A lot of really good guys around him.

• 2:21:29Speaker 03

  Most guys who are knuckleheads like this, they don't last too long in the NFL and he's been on a lot of different. He keeps getting jobs because he's good.

• 2:21:37Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:21:37Speaker 03

  Despite the fact that he's a a big weirdo.

• 2:21:41Speaker 00

  He's, yeah. I don't know. Yeah, the Bills defense is a problem. Also, if you're a Raiders fan and you're worried, uh. Don't worry because Caleb Rogers said what's gonna help us out this season is how much we love each other.

• 2:21:54Speaker 03

  Hell, yeah. Hell, yeah. It's awesome.

• 2:21:57Speaker 00

  Wasn't that guy? Was it? Was it, uh? Clinton Farrell or whatever? Who got cut?

• 2:22:03Speaker 03

  Cleveland Farrell?

• 2:22:04Speaker 00

  Yeah, Cleveland Farrell. Who's the guy who got cut who might have kissed someone?

• 2:22:07Speaker 03

  Oh, uh, in the shower. Um.

• 2:22:10Speaker 00

  Who was that?

• 2:22:11Speaker 06

  Wilkins.

• 2:22:12Speaker 00

  Wilkins, Christian Wilkins.

• 2:22:13Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:22:14Speaker 00

  Yeah. They love each other on this team. Do you think he's like, fuck, just miss a team that loved each other?

• 2:22:19Speaker 03

  I think maybe he loved too much.

• 2:22:21Speaker 00

  Yeah. Uh, this is, this is a good first test for Clint Kubiak, three game losing streak. Who do they have next week? Oh, Rams.

• 2:22:28Speaker 03

  Rams. Is it Mendoza time?

• 2:22:30Speaker 00

  I don't know. I I will say I I know you can't do this because, uh. It will be a pretty big tell when he comes out on the field, but the Raiders not being able to QB sneak is is an issue as well. They they had, they got another penalty today. I think they brought out. Did they bring out Hayward to try to QB sneak? And it was, and they got a penalty on it. Kirk Cousins can't QB sneak. I they, I feel like. If you bring out Mendoza in a fourth and one, you know, he's gonna QB sneak, but you gotta figure out something. You gotta figure out something because they can't do it. And I think this is the third time.

• 2:23:07Speaker 03

  Ever have, uh, like Brock Bowers do it?

• 2:23:09Speaker 00

  I think they've tried. They've tried everything, I think, and it hasn't worked. They they're not good at QB sneaks. It's kind of important because I feel like they they do have a coach that is, uh. Aggressive enough to go for it on fourth down. Okay.

• 2:23:25Speaker 03

  So overall.

• 2:23:25Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah. The, uh, you want to know the Bills do have one good thing they do defensively? They do, uh, their run defense is good. Asha Gentry didn't really get going at all.

• 2:23:34Speaker 03

  Yeah, he had a, he had a nice touchdown run, right?

• 2:23:37Speaker 00

  Yeah, but I think you only have like 20 yards.

• 2:23:39Speaker 03

  Not a great day for Gentry. Uh, the quote from C D Deuce after the game was, I've got to be a better vet. I've got to control my emotions. I don't think. I don't think it's an emotional thing. I think you just need to learn not to spit when you are emotional.

• 2:23:52Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:23:53Speaker 03

  Like there's no emotion that makes people spit.

• 2:23:55Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:23:56Speaker 03

  It's not like sad, tired, hungry, spit.

• 2:23:59Speaker 00

  Spit.

• 2:24:00Speaker 03

  Just just don't spit.

• 2:24:01Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:24:02Speaker 03

  They probably have a mouthpiece that you can wear that is like spit proof.

• 2:24:04Speaker 00

  Why are you, uh, why are you looking at, uh, Max during this?

• 2:24:09Speaker 02

  I was thinking those are, those are good words. Just making sure he's taking them all in.

• 2:24:13Speaker 03

  Good words. What were your favorite?

• 2:24:15Speaker 00

  Oh, because Max spits?

• 2:24:19Speaker 06

  I'm Italian.

• 2:24:21Speaker 03

  Well, that's disrespectful to Italians, Max.

• 2:24:24Speaker 06

  You're disrespectful to Italians.

• 2:24:26Speaker 03

  No, I'm saying.

• 2:24:27Speaker 02

  True.

• 2:24:27Speaker 03

  I I know lots of Italian people that don't spit.

• 2:24:31Speaker 06

  All right.

• 2:24:34Speaker 03

  What?

• 2:24:34Speaker 06

  All right. I don't know. What do you? I don't know.

• 2:24:36Speaker 03

  Um, Hank was just saying that they were good words. I don't know why you were telling me. I Max doesn't spit on purpose, though.

• 2:24:41Speaker 02

  I didn't say anything. I just. Like you guys say good stuff on the show and sometimes I just take a scan of the room and just make sure the the boys are locked in. Zach always is. Max sometimes isn't.

• 2:24:52Speaker 06

  Let's not talk about who's locked in and who's not locked in.

• 2:24:55Speaker 02

  I'm not saying the words were.

• 2:24:58Speaker 06

  Hank's never locked in.

• 2:24:59Speaker 00

  No.

• 2:25:01Speaker 00

  You're not locked in.

• 2:25:02Speaker 06

  You're normally watching the, the Bay, the Bay classic.

• 2:25:06Speaker 00

  Bay classic.

• 2:25:07Speaker 03

  Shoes off.

• 2:25:08Speaker 00

  Shoes off.

• 2:25:10Speaker 02

  God forbid, a, a guy watches sports for the sports podcast. My bad.

• 2:25:15Speaker 06

  Fake, it's a fake tournament.

• 2:25:16Speaker 02

  You just go on your fucking phone and it's just reels of food.

• 2:25:21Speaker 06

  So do you, not food.

• 2:25:22Speaker 02

  Minor reels of sports and golf instructions.

• 2:25:26Speaker 06

  Golf instructions, yeah. That, those work.

• 2:25:29Speaker 03

  It's, it's, it's teaching, it's learning, education.

• 2:25:31Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:25:32Speaker 03

  You know what I'm getting right now?

• 2:25:33Speaker 02

  Sour dough bread.

• 2:25:34Speaker 03

  And my, uh.

• 2:25:35Speaker 06

  That's, yeah, that's, that's fun.

• 2:25:37Speaker 00

  I'm, I'm big time on my Instagram algorithm. It's just dudes who have, uh, 20 minute workouts with kettlebells that transform your body.

• 2:25:46Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:25:47Speaker 00

  They're like, all you gotta do is this every day.

• 2:25:49Speaker 06

  One kettlebell, 20 minutes. That's more than one fucking kettlebell you're doing in your fucking basement.

• 2:25:55Speaker 00

  They're like, I just, I've seen every guy with their shirt off in America being like, just do this and you'll be ripped like me.

• 2:26:02Speaker 06

  Did you get kettlebells?

• 2:26:03Speaker 00

  Day one, day 70. I have them.

• 2:26:07Speaker 06

  Have you, have you done any of the workouts?

• 2:26:08Speaker 00

  I tried it once. It's way harder than they make it seem. Cause they do like, they do like four workouts. They're like, all right, eight reps of this, then eight reps of this, then eight reps of this, then eight reps of this, as many as you could do for 45 minutes. And I'm just like, I did it once and I was like, I'm tired. I'm done.

• 2:26:27Speaker 06

  They're just bringing that thing around town effortlessly. Makes no sense.

• 2:26:30Speaker 00

  Too much, Zach.

• 2:26:31Speaker 06

  They're lying.

• 2:26:32Speaker 03

  I like the life hack guys that are like, uh, all you have to do, you have to take, uh, you don't even have to take a full cold shower. Just 15 seconds of cold water on your face in the shower. That'll make you live for another 20 years.

• 2:26:43Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:26:43Speaker 03

  That's all you have to do. Life hack.

• 2:26:45Speaker 00

  I've been cold plunging.

• 2:26:48Speaker 00

  It's 55 degrees, so it's not that cold, but I've been cold plunging.

• 2:26:51Speaker 06

  How, how long?

• 2:26:53Speaker 00

  55, I could stand for like four minutes. I tried to go down to 50 cause I was like, I think I've, I've beat 55. I went down to 50. I was out of it in like 45 seconds. Like that's too, I gotta go down incrementally one by one.

• 2:27:08Speaker 00

  Oh, all right. Uh, Cowboys, Packers. Dak sucks. Do you guys agree?

• 2:27:15Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:27:16Speaker 00

  The Packers look good again, by the way. I don't, I, I'm very nervous. Jordan Love looks pretty locked in.

• 2:27:21Speaker 03

  They do, but.

• 2:27:22Speaker 00

  Micah Parsons is going to come back week nine, I believe.

• 2:27:25Speaker 03

  They gotta catch the ball.

• 2:27:26Speaker 00

  Yeah, no.

• 2:27:26Speaker 03

  They let, they left so much out.

• 2:27:28Speaker 00

  They do have fast receivers that don't always catch the ball.

• 2:27:31Speaker 03

  They do everything and even sometimes they catch it, but then they don't stay catching the ball.

• 2:27:35Speaker 00

  But, but Jordan Love looks, he looks locked in and it's, it's scary. This is why I say, I never buried them. When they lost to the Falcons and they looked like absolute dog shit. I was like, this team, they, I'm smarter than this. The Matt LaFleur is not a bad coach and, and Jordan Love's not a bad quarterback and they do have enough guys. I know they don't have a great offensive line, but it feels like they've done something differently with the offensive line to, and it's actually a lot of it is credit to Jordan Love. I think he's getting the ball out quickly. Oh, wow. I mean, you, Max won that so quickly. You were.

• 2:28:10Speaker 06

  Immediately started scrolling your phone.

• 2:28:13Speaker 02

  I was looking up stats.

• 2:28:14Speaker 00

  Oh yeah, what's that?

• 2:28:15Speaker 02

  Packers.

• 2:28:16Speaker 00

  What's that? What's that?

• 2:28:18Speaker 02

  Jordan Love passing.

• 2:28:19Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:28:20Speaker 02

  Hold on, let me pull it back up.

• 2:28:22Speaker 00

  What'd it tell you?

• 2:28:24Speaker 02

  Sorry.

• 2:28:25Speaker 03

  Just unlock the phone.

• 2:28:26Speaker 00

  I mean, Max won that round.

• 2:28:27Speaker 03

  Should be right there.

• 2:28:27Speaker 00

  You guys just had a, uh, no, you're not locked in, you're not locked in. It's, it was like 45 seconds later that you went back to your phone.

• 2:28:34Speaker 02

  I was looking at stats.

• 2:28:36Speaker 00

  But yeah, I think he's getting the ball. Like, I think that's, that's been the biggest change is he just gets the ball out so fast now.

• 2:28:42Speaker 03

  Yeah, it, it, he does look better. Um, he's not afraid to run a little bit.

• 2:28:47Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:28:48Speaker 03

  The mobility is still.

• 2:28:49Speaker 02

  12 yards.

• 2:28:50Speaker 03

  I said a little bit, but it's mostly the mobility moving around. Hank, did you watch the game?

• 2:28:54Speaker 02

  I did.

• 2:28:55Speaker 03

  Did you see Jordan Love moving around in the pocket?

• 2:28:57Speaker 02

  For sure.

• 2:28:58Speaker 06

  12 yards.

• 2:28:59Speaker 00

  12 yards. 12 yards.

• 2:29:01Speaker 03

  They gotta catch the fucking ball though.

• 2:29:03Speaker 00

  I mean, he won easily.

• 2:29:04Speaker 03

  Costly drops though.

• 2:29:06Speaker 00

  It didn't cost him tonight.

• 2:29:08Speaker 03

  But they should, it gets a team like the Cowboys, that offense, they should put up, they should put up a ton of points.

• 2:29:13Speaker 00

  I got a question. The Cowboys offense. We keep being told it's so explosive, so good. We've watched him for eight quarters now, looked bad. Against not like, well, I guess the Bucks actually have a pretty good defense, but I don't think anyone's saying that the, the, Micah Parsons list pack or Packers are like the greatest defense. Are we sure that the Cowboys offense is like as electric as everyone's making it out to be?

• 2:29:40Speaker 03

  No, because sometimes Dak sucks.

• 2:29:42Speaker 00

  Yeah. And they don't, I guess.

• 2:29:44Speaker 03

  They've got dudes.

• 2:29:45Speaker 00

  That Texans game is, was a big one and the Ravens one. They have a few games there, but the last two games they've not looked good and it feels like every single Cowboys plays the exact play. Dak loads up like he's going deep and then just throws it like four yards to Javante Williams or Jake Ferguson. I saw, I watched that a hundred times tonight.

• 2:30:04Speaker 03

  Or he has a hilarious interception.

• 2:30:06Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:30:07Speaker 03

  There are so many good, yeah, really good interception night from Dak tonight.

• 2:30:10Speaker 00

  And I say all this and the Cowboys, I mean, if you had to go gun to your head right now, who wins the NFC East?

• 2:30:17Speaker 02

  Birds.

• 2:30:18Speaker 00

  Think I'd have to say the Cowboys.

• 2:30:21Speaker 03

  I don't, they all suck.

• 2:30:24Speaker 06

  Next week's big game.

• 2:30:25Speaker 00

  I think I'd have to say Cowboys.

• 2:30:27Speaker 03

  I think.

• 2:30:27Speaker 00

  And I don't, I don't want to say it, but I think I'd have to say it.

• 2:30:30Speaker 03

  I think, I think Max might be right. I think, uh, it.

• 2:30:36Speaker 00

  Next, he didn't say anything. He just said that next week is a big week.

• 2:30:39Speaker 03

  If Jalen hurts.

• 2:30:39Speaker 00

  Didn't say anything.

• 2:30:40Speaker 03

  What, what's the minimum number of games that he's going to miss?

• 2:30:43Speaker 06

  I think week 11 is when he can go back.

• 2:30:45Speaker 00

  Clock.

• 2:30:46Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 2:30:46Speaker 06

  Bazooka Joe.

• 2:30:48Speaker 03

  Bazooka Joe.

• 2:30:48Speaker 06

  We have Tanner McKee and then if the Tanner McKee doesn't work, we still have the Bazooka Joe button.

• 2:30:52Speaker 03

  If, if it was gun to my head, I think it might, I think it might still be the Birds.

• 2:30:57Speaker 06

  Definitely. Birds are like plus 700.

• 2:31:00Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:31:00Speaker 06

  What do you think? Whose line is anyway for Cowboys Eagles next week?

• 2:31:03Speaker 02

  Where is it?

• 2:31:04Speaker 06

  It's in Philly. I'll be there. Thanks, Dick.

• 2:31:06Speaker 02

  Birds minus six.

• 2:31:08Speaker 00

  No, no. Shut up. You're so loopy right now. Cowboys minus.

• 2:31:13Speaker 02

  It's a home game.

• 2:31:14Speaker 00

  Cowboys.

• 2:31:14Speaker 02

  The link?

• 2:31:15Speaker 00

  Cowboys two and a half.

• 2:31:16Speaker 03

  I would say Cowboys minus three.

• 2:31:18Speaker 06

  I was gonna say Cowboys minus three and a half. Let's take a look.

• 2:31:22Speaker 00

  Let's take a look.

• 2:31:26Speaker 06

  What, why is it only giving?

• 2:31:28Speaker 00

  The Cowboys were favorites tonight and they lost.

• 2:31:30Speaker 06

  Oh, there we go.

• 2:31:32Speaker 00

  What do we got? Cowboys. Four and a half. Wow. Gotta take the Birds. Gotta take the Birds.

• 2:31:45Speaker 02

  Going to Fluff you?

• 2:31:47Speaker 00

  You don't go on Fluff you. And a four and a half? Come on. I don't try, I don't know what's like, I, I, I keep. The, the Cowboys offense is the most explosive offense and I then watched games like tonight. I'm like, where was it? What happened?

• 2:32:05Speaker 03

  Dak, man. That, that can be at his peak, top five guy. But when he's not, the entire thing looks broken.

• 2:32:15Speaker 00

  Yeah. All right. Uh, rollback question, RHO B A C K.

• 2:32:20Speaker 03

  Also, it's a really bad vibes. We talked about it a little bit on Thursday. Very, very bad situation when the owner's going on the radio.

• 2:32:27Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:32:28Speaker 03

  Dictating where a coordinator is going to be during the game and then his coach publicly disagrees with him.

• 2:32:34Speaker 00

  Correct.

• 2:32:34Speaker 03

  That's a bad spot that you're in with Jerry Jones.

• 2:32:37Speaker 00

  Correct.

• 2:32:37Speaker 03

  And I mean, Jerry's gotten weird later on in his life where he almost, he likes it the more dysfunctional they are because people talk about him.

• 2:32:45Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:32:46Speaker 03

  So you're right. He doesn't fire people as frequently or as easily as he used to. But in a situation like this, that seems like something that, um, that could get out of hand quickly and lead to a firing.

• 2:32:56Speaker 00

  Yeah. I mean, he doesn't fire anyone.

• 2:32:57Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:32:58Speaker 00

  You think about the, the Cowboys, like they prob, I mean, they held on to Jason Garrett for way too long. Mike McCarthy probably for a little too long. Then looked down the, down the hallway and said, hey, Brian Schonheimer, we want you to coach.

• 2:33:13Speaker 03

  In one, in one fell swoop on the radio, he, uh, kind of demoted a coordinator to the booth without talking to the coach about it. And he also took the side of a fan that yelled at his quarterback after a game over his fan.

• 2:33:25Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:33:26Speaker 03

  So that doesn't seem like things are good.

• 2:33:27Speaker 00

  Which I actually think that, that, that was the correct move. Taking the side of the fan.

• 2:33:32Speaker 03

  A hundred percent.

• 2:33:33Speaker 00

  You have, you, I mean, that's the, his fans are who make him rich.

• 2:33:38Speaker 03

  That guy pays Jerry's salary.

• 2:33:40Speaker 00

  Correct.

• 2:33:40Speaker 03

  That guy's actually Jerry's boss.

• 2:33:42Speaker 00

  Uh, all right, rollback question, RHO B A C K dot com promo code take 20% off your first purchase. Excuse us, polo, hoodies, joggers, shorts, robak.com promo code take. Uh, PFT, what do you, where is your head at for Monday night football?

• 2:33:55Speaker 03

  I'm, I'm thinking this is a great opportunity. Great opportunity. This, the way that the last game ended feels like it's the type of loss that would destroy a season. There's no coming back from it. So what better opponent to have than maybe the best team in the NFL? Because if you win that game, taste washed out of your mouth, new season starts now, dog shit division, anything's possible and we're right back in the thick of it.

• 2:34:20Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:34:21Speaker 03

  Now, if we get blown out and get our ass kicked, like it has happened from time to time and big Monday night games like this and nationally televised games such as this one. Um, then it looks like it's a blow it up time and, uh, I would say that we'd probably be looking in Declan Doyle's direction sooner rather than later.

• 2:34:40Speaker 00

  Whoa.

• 2:34:41Speaker 03

  That's kinda, that's how much this game probably means to the future of Dan Quinn and DC. I don't think that Dan Quinn's lost the locker room. I, I think that they, from what I know, the team loves him. They respect him. They'll play hard for him. I'd be shocked if they went out there and, and there was any sort of lack of effort because I think they really do care about each other. Uh, but if that does happen and if it kinda spirals out of control, I could see, this is a, this is a bye week. And we saw Magic Johnson get mad online, which Magic Johnson never does.

• 2:35:14Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:35:15Speaker 03

  So I could see, uh, unless Josh Harris is just a hundred percent focused on trying to make sure that Pablo Torre doesn't find out about the Fanatics gambling that Michael Rubin was doing on the Sixers. He might be thinking about that. Uh, but if he is locked in on the commanders, I think we could see a potential bye week move if it's a real stinker of a game. But I do think that it's a great opportunity. So we win this game and the season is completely turned around. And I'm, I'm very happy that, or at least kind of, uh, I'm relieved that the new brace that Jaden's wearing seems like it might prevent further dislocations. So Jaden might have a relatively healthy season from this point on.

• 2:35:53Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 2:35:54Speaker 03

  So that's where I'm at. Good opportunity. And also Brandon Iuk, I, I wonder if he's going to be there.

• 2:35:58Speaker 00

  Yeah, probably. Be like, which, which team needs me?

• 2:36:01Speaker 03

  I think he, I think he would just be up in like the commander's booth. I think he thinks he's on the team still.

• 2:36:07Speaker 00

  Okay. Uh, why'd you guys look at each other, Max and Hank during that?

• 2:36:11Speaker 06

  Well, Hank looked at me and I looked at Max.

• 2:36:15Speaker 02

  I don't know, man.

• 2:36:15Speaker 06

  I'm a, I'm a DraftKings guy.

• 2:36:17Speaker 02

  I, I can't look down. I can't look up.

• 2:36:21Speaker 02

  What am I like, I look at my phone. Why are you doing that? If I look at Max?

• 2:36:26Speaker 00

  Well, I thought, no, I, I'm not, you're not in trouble. I was just wondering if there was something to be said.

• 2:36:32Speaker 02

  No.

• 2:36:33Speaker 00

  I know where he's closing his eyes now. He's closing his eyes. He's a toddler.

• 2:36:38Speaker 03

  Just go to sleep. Yeah.

• 2:36:39Speaker 00

  All right.

• 2:36:40Speaker 03

  It's the only way that I can exist is by sleeping.

• 2:36:42Speaker 06

  Started that whole phone.

• 2:36:43Speaker 00

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• 2:37:28Speaker 02

  Um, my who's back of the week is NBA.

• 2:37:31Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:37:31Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:37:32Speaker 02

  This week. Tuesday Celtics are playing their first game of the year, Tuesday afternoon, which is kind of bizarre, but I'm, I'm all for it.

• 2:37:41Speaker 00

  Why is that bizarre?

• 2:37:42Speaker 02

  Cause an opening, an opening day game.

• 2:37:45Speaker 06

  That's a great toss.

• 2:37:46Speaker 00

  That was great toss.

• 2:37:47Speaker 06

  Perfect toss.

• 2:37:49Speaker 02

  Uh, opening day game at three o'clock is odd.

• 2:37:51Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:37:53Speaker 02

  But nonetheless, exciting.

• 2:37:56Speaker 02

  Caleb Wilson's exciting in Chicago. I think he's going to be really, really good.

• 2:38:00Speaker 00

  I don't think the Bulls are going to be great as a team, but I think he's going to be really good.

• 2:38:04Speaker 02

  Sixers.

• 2:38:07Speaker 02

  Will be fun to watch implode.

• 2:38:11Speaker 02

  Next and just everything, everything. There's a, there's a lot of, there's a lot of, you know, exciting storylines in NBA this year.

• 2:38:18Speaker 00

  When do you think the Sixers will start to implode?

• 2:38:21Speaker 02

  Uh.

• 2:38:22Speaker 03

  If this is the, if they're the Titan to submersible that's going to visit the Titanic.

• 2:38:25Speaker 02

  I think it's gonna, I think it's gonna go bad quickly and then they're gonna, by the time playoffs roll around, like figure something out, but I think. Jalen Brown, LeBron. And Embiid is, are three just massive personalities. And then we're not even talking about Max. You're not talking about anyone else.

• 2:38:45Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:38:46Speaker 02

  It's gonna be a lot.

• 2:38:47Speaker 03

  I didn't know that, that anecdote about Jalen Brown and that he, uh, he would, he bought a gold harp. And that he would hire a harpist to come over and, and play for him as his chef made him dinner. That's gotta be so relaxing.

• 2:38:59Speaker 06

  Yeah. Hank and I were saying that's, this is one of the best rich guy things.

• 2:39:03Speaker 00

  Yo.

• 2:39:03Speaker 03

  That's such a, that's a classic rich guy move.

• 2:39:05Speaker 06

  That's an awesome rich guy move.

• 2:39:09Speaker 00

  Awesome.

• 2:39:10Speaker 06

  Hank?

• 2:39:11Speaker 02

  I agree. I, I, I would love to get to a point in my life where I buy a gold harp and then.

• 2:39:18Speaker 02

  Just hang out while I hear harp music and food gets made for me.

• 2:39:23Speaker 03

  Do you think they're doing like classical harp songs? Or do you think they're doing like, uh, like modern R and B songs?

• 2:39:30Speaker 02

  I like when they do that. Probably that. Probably both. Those are fun though.

• 2:39:34Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:39:36Speaker 00

  Okay. Good. Who's back? Your eyes are still closed.

• 2:39:38Speaker 03

  Good night Hank.

• 2:39:39Speaker 02

  Thanks.

• 2:39:40Speaker 00

  All right. PFT.

• 2:39:41Speaker 03

  Uh, my who's back of the week, I got a couple. First, I actually forgot to mention this with the Monday night preview thing. One reason why I do have a little bit of confidence in the commanders going to Monday night and Dan Quinn. Did you guys see the big news about the, the change that Dan Quinn made?

• 2:39:57Speaker 00

  I, I did not.

• 2:39:58Speaker 03

  On, I think it was Thursday or Friday during practice.

• 2:40:00Speaker 00

  He's actually sleeping.

• 2:40:02Speaker 03

  He is sleeping. Yeah.

• 2:40:04Speaker 03

  He turned his hat around and it's forward for the, for the first time all season.

• 2:40:07Speaker 00

  I did see that actually. This didn't, I apologize. Yes.

• 2:40:10Speaker 03

  This feels like, like the last move.

• 2:40:12Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 2:40:12Speaker 03

  He's tried literally everything else.

• 2:40:14Speaker 00

  It was shocking.

• 2:40:15Speaker 03

  It's like, this is no bad ideas. We gotta do something different. Hats forward until we win a game.

• 2:40:20Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:40:20Speaker 03

  Um, so maybe that gives me a little bit of confidence. My other who's back of the week is, uh, OJ. OJ might be back. Did you guys read the article that was in, I think it was in the New York Times that came out this weekend about OJ Simpson and, uh, maybe the person, the accomplice that was with OJ?

• 2:40:39Speaker 02

  Larry David.

• 2:40:40Speaker 03

  The night of?

• 2:40:41Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:40:41Speaker 03

  Well, no, there was Larry David. You want to tell that story real quick?

• 2:40:43Speaker 00

  It was the morning of.

• 2:40:45Speaker 02

  Uh, Larry David, just like, I think he did an interview or something where he said he was with OJ, the day of the murder.

• 2:40:52Speaker 00

  He saw him.

• 2:40:53Speaker 02

  At the, at their country club.

• 2:40:54Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:40:55Speaker 03

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:40:56Speaker 02

  Which then they, people put it together. Like there's an episode of Seinfeld where like the exact same thing happens.

• 2:41:00Speaker 00

  Yeah. Where like Larry David's like, oh, your ex-wife's going to let you golf? And he's like, wait, I should be able to golf whenever I want. Yeah.

• 2:41:09Speaker 03

  So there, there was this other article that was about the actual murder itself. And there was this dude that was in the mob that apparently was tied in and told people at the time that he helped OJ either right afterwards, or was like a direct accomplice. And this guy was written up by like the FBI and shit saying he's a legit, high value witness that we've used and his information's always been correct. Like he was like an all-star snitch that used to be in the mob.

• 2:41:37Speaker 00

  Wow.

• 2:41:37Speaker 03

  And apparently him and OJ hung out for years after the trial too.

• 2:41:40Speaker 00

  Wait, how do they, how did he help cover it up? Uh, cause they didn't cover it up at all.

• 2:41:46Speaker 03

  Well, destroy evidence. They never found.

• 2:41:49Speaker 00

  They, yeah, they missed a lot of evidence.

• 2:41:51Speaker 03

  The big one was the knife.

• 2:41:52Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:41:52Speaker 03

  And so apparently this guy allegedly helped him take care of the knife and, um, some other stuff that was left behind. And also had a private jet waiting for him and AC when they did that low speed chase in the Bronco. So they were going, they were looking for the private airport. Then the cops showed up, chased them around. They couldn't go to the private airport, but they had a jet that was gassed up on the runway, ready to take OJ out of the country, which would have been, that would have been crazy.

• 2:42:17Speaker 00

  That would have been nuts.

• 2:42:17Speaker 03

  Um, so yeah, apparently this guy is, uh, I don't know. Rebound yourself because it sounds like OJ definitely did that shit. But also there was a theory that the prosecution just didn't pursue at all, even though it was laid out in front of them.

• 2:42:29Speaker 00

  Yeah. Okay. Uh, my who's back of the week is the Tampa Rays because they have taken control of the ALCS. Friday night was a rain out. Saturday they won. Uh, the bat showed up on Saturday and then Sunday Drew Rasmussen has been quietly just an absolute like monster of these playoffs. Not so quietly, but maybe quietly because it's the Rays, but he's pitched 21 innings, 1.29 ERA. Now we go to game six in Tampa, Monday night. I, so Stephen Voit, I think said that Gavin Williams is not an option for game six.

• 2:43:13Speaker 00

  I don't understand that. I get it. He's probably, he's on short rest. When did he last pitch, Max? He last pitched on Thursday? So that would be, yeah. Okay. So Friday, Saturday, Sunday. So it's three days. I, I get it, but you gotta win game six if you want to get to game seven.

• 2:43:30Speaker 03

  What's his, uh, what's his deal on short rest in the past?

• 2:43:33Speaker 00

  I think his, I think his velocity was down in game, uh, two, it must've been, no, three, uh, at the end.

• 2:43:41Speaker 00

  I totally understand if he, if you think that's not the best option, but it's like, if you're trying to be, if you're trying to outthink it and be like, well, we need him for game seven. It's like, you gotta win game six. I don't know what the Cleveland, I'm not like, you know, super tuned into what they have in, in the bullpen and what they're, it's all hands on decks. Which you would think, you can't hold anyone back on an all hands on deck.

• 2:44:02Speaker 06

  He also only threw 70 pitches on third. Like that's not even, it's not even like a full workload.

• 2:44:07Speaker 03

  This should be a game where it's like, whatever we can do, and then we'll just, we'll figure it out.

• 2:44:11Speaker 00

  Right. You gotta get to game seven. You gotta find a way.

• 2:44:14Speaker 03

  It might, we not, might not be able to figure it out, but we can try.

• 2:44:18Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:44:19Speaker 06

  He might be hurt.

• 2:44:20Speaker 00

  He could be hurt.

• 2:44:21Speaker 06

  Might be hurt.

• 2:44:21Speaker 00

  Yeah, absolutely. It's a possibility. Cause I do think his velocity was down at the end of, uh, game three. And he only pitched 70 pitches, which could, could maybe mean that he's hurt, which that would suck. What do you guys think? Rays?

• 2:44:35Speaker 03

  I, I mean fastball Freddie.

• 2:44:36Speaker 06

  Guards. It's a bullpen game. It's Freddie versus bullpen game.

• 2:44:41Speaker 00

  Yeah. Also, I'm not, listen. Not saying that there's maybe a, a curse going on or some bad juju, but have you guys seen this, this, uh, Brewers timeless ticket thing?

• 2:44:55Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:44:56Speaker 00

  They're, so the Brewers 10 years ago sold a ticket, there was only, I think a hundred of them to their fan base where anyone could buy it. It was a thousand dollars and you could redeem it at any game in the future. I think it was like, you got to redeem it for nine games or something, including an opening day game and potentially a world series game. And apparently there's fans trying to redeem it and the Brewers were like, yeah, sorry, we don't have it. We have standing room only. Like you, Brewers, you gotta give these people their tickets. These are your, these are your most diehard fans. These are the fans that bought the ticket when they were dog shit.

• 2:45:36Speaker 03

  So when they, when they bought this golden ticket, it was, it's really nine tickets. Is that what you're saying?

• 2:45:40Speaker 00

  I think so. It's not like, it's not a ticket, it's not a ticket to every game. It's like, uh, I, I was reading it. It was like, you get to go to either an opening day game or like a holiday game and then maybe a world series game. It wasn't like unlimited tickets forever.

• 2:45:57Speaker 03

  It's one ticket. Yeah. Okay. So it's one ticket to any future Brewers home game. No expiration date. Here's a problem. If they try to, if they try to.

• 2:46:06Speaker 00

  Including the world series.

• 2:46:07Speaker 03

  Yeah. If they try to deny people on this. Apparently it's not actually made out of gold.

• 2:46:13Speaker 00

  It's personalized brass.

• 2:46:14Speaker 03

  It's brass. You can't call it a golden ticket if it's brass though, right?

• 2:46:18Speaker 00

  I don't think it was, I, I might've misspoke. It's the timeless ticket.

• 2:46:21Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 2:46:21Speaker 00

  But you've got to, if you care about karma, juju, whatever, you've got to redeem these tickets. You have to let these people go to this game. You cannot say standing room only.

• 2:46:35Speaker 00

  Uh, what did, what did this guy say? It's not the best of, he got.

• 2:46:41Speaker 06

  This guy said he was trying to redeem it, not exactly the experience, experience he was expecting.

• 2:46:45Speaker 00

  Man.

• 2:46:46Speaker 06

  Then he said, the Brewers have offered me a solution.

• 2:46:48Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 2:46:48Speaker 06

  Taking their offer. So I secure White's, our World Series tickets for myself.

• 2:46:52Speaker 00

  All right. So that sounds like they, they wizened up because that was going to be like the all time you like bad karma going into the World Series and the Brewers have like all the good vibes going. You can't just be like, oh yeah, these thousand fans who bought it when like 10 years ago. You can't come to this. All right. So they're going to get in there.

• 2:47:11Speaker 03

  Imagine what the tailgate scene is going to be like for a World Series.

• 2:47:14Speaker 00

  Yeah. Because, oh, look at this. It said, it was going to be insane. It said on the timeless ticket, timeless ticket owners can redeem their timeless ticket to any future Brewers home game at American Family Field, whether it's this season, the year 2050, or the seventh game of the World Series. All are valid games to redeem a timeless ticket. All right. So they said it right there.

• 2:47:33Speaker 03

  So it looks like the approximate get in price is like in, in the 17, 18, $100 range, something like that.

• 2:47:40Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 2:47:40Speaker 03

  So this, it's not really that, even that great of a deal, but if you bought that ticket, it a hundred percent needs to be honored.

• 2:47:47Speaker 00

  Yeah. And it was for this moment.

• 2:47:49Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:47:50Speaker 06

  It's cool, Dusty's too.

• 2:47:51Speaker 00

  Yeah, it is. And it's like, it's cool. If you bought it 10 years ago, being like someday the Brewers would be in the World Series and I'll use this for that, for that. That, that is a cool thing.

• 2:48:00Speaker 03

  How much would they have to charge to have a timeless ticket where it's just like, whatever game, no limit for the rest of your life. You can always get in.

• 2:48:10Speaker 00

  Baseball?

• 2:48:11Speaker 03

  Yeah, baseball.

• 2:48:12Speaker 00

  To every baseball, like to get the.

• 2:48:14Speaker 03

  Like if the Cubs did it and they said, you can buy, you can spend X amount of dollars right now. And, and just drop of a hat. You want to go to a Wrigley game today? Okay. Yeah. Stop in. I got my golden ticket. Playoffs, got the golden ticket. World Series.

• 2:48:29Speaker 00

  I'd pay a lot, probably.

• 2:48:31Speaker 06

  That's just the gold card for the players, right?

• 2:48:33Speaker 00

  Yeah, I'd pay a lot.

• 2:48:34Speaker 03

  Like to sell something like that.

• 2:48:37Speaker 00

  Yeah. I mean, I dream of like would, when, when like all this is over to just go to 81 games. Be so sick. I went to 60 in 2015. That was sick. And the bleachers.

• 2:48:50Speaker 03

  That was a fun, fun season.

• 2:48:51Speaker 00

  Oh yeah. Oh yeah. I went to like 60 in 2014 and 15. Um, but yeah, I, I'd pay a lot for that.

• 2:48:58Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:48:58Speaker 00

  For the one, the one ticket. Uh, okay. Zach finishes off.

• 2:49:04Speaker 04

  My who's back of the week this week is going to be a Tesla and SpaceX because they're bringing Hot Wheels cars to the real road.

• 2:49:09Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 2:49:10Speaker 04

  Uh, I don't know if you guys saw.

• 2:49:12Speaker 02

  Yeah, I heard it. I heard, I heard there was no engine in that, in that car.

• 2:49:15Speaker 00

  Wait, did we talk about this on Friday?

• 2:49:17Speaker 03

  I don't.

• 2:49:18Speaker 00

  We might have talked about it with ourselves, you know?

• 2:49:21Speaker 04

  I think we may have talked in phase one, but not in phase three.

• 2:49:24Speaker 00

  Okay. Phase one is when we all sit outside of the PMT studio and say, hey, we should really start podding and we don't move.

• 2:49:31Speaker 06

  It's our pre-production.

• 2:49:32Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:49:32Speaker 06

  That's our pre-production meeting is out there.

• 2:49:34Speaker 00

  Where we just fuck around and bust each other's balls. Then phase two is when one of us says, hey, we're going to come into the studio and then we sit in the studio and do the exact same thing as phase one, while we procrastinate even further. And then phase three is I go, are we ready? And then memes goes, no, you gotta give me a second. Cause I, you gotta turn on all the machines and then that, and then we start.

• 2:49:56Speaker 06

  Well, and then there's phase 2.5 where PFT says, hold on.

• 2:49:59Speaker 00

  Shit.

• 2:49:59Speaker 06

  Can I go, can I go?

• 2:50:00Speaker 03

  No, it's pee, it's pee. I, I poop way earlier, but yeah. Phase 2.11 is when you guys are like, I'm going to go pee. And then phase 2.12 is after you guys get back. And I'm like, you know what? I gotta pee too.

• 2:50:12Speaker 00

  Yeah. All right. So phase one was when we talked about this.

• 2:50:15Speaker 04

  I believe so. If we don't want to break phase one, I can pivot.

• 2:50:17Speaker 00

  No, no, let's go.

• 2:50:18Speaker 04

  Oh yeah. So, uh, I'm sure you guys may have seen the video. We got suction cups. So basically we're, we're driving up walls. We got like 10 cold air thrusters. So we're hitting cake flips.

• 2:50:30Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 2:50:30Speaker 04

  Uh, I think we're going zero to 60 in like point eight seconds, which just feels like a lethal weapon for the, for the public to have. I don't know how I feel about this. It's cool to see on a track. I don't know if it's going to be cool to see on a highway.

• 2:50:43Speaker 02

  Well, I also heard that the, that like video was they made the car just so it could do that for the video, but it's not like cars aren't going to be able to be made with those features.

• 2:50:56Speaker 00

  So it's like, it's like the commercial food.

• 2:50:58Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:50:58Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:50:59Speaker 00

  Shane just kept on saying, this would be sick for a bank robber, which makes me think Shane wants to rob a bank.

• 2:51:05Speaker 04

  I mean, are you telling me you haven't thought about it?

• 2:51:08Speaker 00

  Robbing a bank? I don't think, I think I'd be too much of a pussy.

• 2:51:10Speaker 04

  But I've.

• 2:51:11Speaker 00

  Cause I'd be like everyone on the floor. I, I can't shoot someone.

• 2:51:15Speaker 04

  I think they usually do like notes, like no guns, just slide the note.

• 2:51:19Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:51:19Speaker 04

  Hey.

• 2:51:20Speaker 06

  I think it's easier to rob a bank than you think.

• 2:51:22Speaker 03

  Go on me. Wait, wait. I want to hear memes unpack this.

• 2:51:25Speaker 06

  Bank by my house growing up got robbed like once a month.

• 2:51:28Speaker 00

  Really?

• 2:51:28Speaker 06

  I think they just.

• 2:51:29Speaker 03

  I'm with you memes. I, I don't think that they tell people all the ones that get away. I think a lot of people get away with robbing banks.

• 2:51:35Speaker 06

  Yeah. At, as a worker behind the desk, it's like, they don't want you to get shot or something. So you just have to give them the money.

• 2:51:41Speaker 03

  Yeah. Uh, yes, this would be a great getaway car probably. I don't know. All the stuff that I've seen it do, I, I don't really see like a, a real world application for just about any of it. I mean, it's fast, which is cool.

• 2:51:55Speaker 06

  Do you think it's because he wants to go to Mars? I feel like this looks like a Mars car.

• 2:52:00Speaker 03

  You think this car could drive on Mars?

• 2:52:02Speaker 06

  Well, I feel like.

• 2:52:03Speaker 03

  That he could fly this car to Mars?

• 2:52:04Speaker 06

  The, the floating stuff, that feels like, it feels like Mars to me.

• 2:52:08Speaker 03

  Mar, like Mars inspired.

• 2:52:11Speaker 06

  Maybe.

• 2:52:11Speaker 03

  The aesthetic.

• 2:52:12Speaker 06

  You, you know how Elon Musk is obsessed with Mars?

• 2:52:14Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:52:15Speaker 06

  That it kind of gives the, the floating kind of feels like a space car.

• 2:52:21Speaker 03

  Yeah. I think.

• 2:52:22Speaker 06

  The thrusters and stuff like, that's how like.

• 2:52:25Speaker 03

  I think.

• 2:52:25Speaker 06

  That's how astronauts walk around in movies, kind of.

• 2:52:30Speaker 03

  I think a lot of Elon's car designs come from a place of like, what would, uh, what would a five year old look at and be like, this is fun.

• 2:52:37Speaker 00

  Right.

• 2:52:38Speaker 03

  I mean, it, the stunt kicks ass. I, I just don't see what, uh, people are going to be like commuting, like driving to their office.

• 2:52:46Speaker 00

  No, they're robbing banks.

• 2:52:47Speaker 03

  Robbing banks. So that's, that's the new, um, that's the new meta.

• 2:52:50Speaker 04

  If they were, would you guys hit the button? Like, do you think you'd have it in you to hit cake flip?

• 2:52:55Speaker 00

  Listen, I could see the appeal of this. My, my three year old always says whenever we're in traffic, he's like, can you just fly over them? So he's kind of got that. Like, I think, I think it's like Elon Musk. It's, it's that, uh, chart. You know how it's like, everyone's in the middle and then the like really dumb person, really smart person?

• 2:53:11Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:53:11Speaker 00

  It's like three year olds on one side, Elon Musk on the other. Can't we just fly over the traffic?

• 2:53:15Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:53:16Speaker 00

  That's, that's, that's kind of what he's going for.

• 2:53:18Speaker 03

  Didn't he also try to dig a hole to his girlfriend's house?

• 2:53:20Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:53:21Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:53:21Speaker 00

  Yeah. So he is just.

• 2:53:23Speaker 03

  This is pretty much where it is.

• 2:53:24Speaker 00

  He's just a little kid.

• 2:53:25Speaker 03

  I actually, I think the reason why Musk is obsessed with Mars. I think he wants to start a civilization there because in his mind, then he'll be like the founder of that civilization. So like 4,000 years from now, people think that Elon Musk was their god on Mars.

• 2:53:43Speaker 00

  Again, I, I've said this a million times, but Elon Musk is a fucking loser for not owning an NFL franchise. So much cooler than building a car that no one's going to buy and can't even work. And like Hank said, is not even a real car. Just fucking buy an NFL franchise, win some Super Bowls. That's, that will give you so much more fulfillment.

• 2:54:06Speaker 03

  Think, think of all the different ways that he could, he could cheat and circumvent the salary cap.

• 2:54:11Speaker 00

  Right.

• 2:54:12Speaker 03

  Elon Musk. It would make Michael Rubin look like child's play.

• 2:54:15Speaker 00

  Why? What did Michael Rubin do?

• 2:54:17Speaker 03

  Well, he, he circumvented the cap for the Sixers.

• 2:54:19Speaker 00

  And did he do anything else?

• 2:54:20Speaker 03

  We talked about it. I think it was a Sloan conference and just said, like, we cheated all the time, broke every rule that we could.

• 2:54:26Speaker 00

  Did he take any bets on Fanatics?

• 2:54:27Speaker 03

  We're taking bets all the time on the teams that I own. That's what he said.

• 2:54:32Speaker 00

  All right. Good show, boys. College football Wednesday, crazy fucking college football Saturday. Unbelievable.

• 2:54:39Speaker 03

  Was that the craziest Saturday of college football ever?

• 2:54:42Speaker 00

  Yeah, it was insane. And, uh, can't wait, can't, I mean, we're, it was just a great weekend of football. Great weekend of football. All right. You ready for numbers?

• 2:54:54Speaker 06

  Do 42.

• 2:54:56Speaker 02

  10.

• 2:54:58Speaker 00

  I'll, I mean, are you just done with three?

• 2:55:01Speaker 06

  Hmm, whatever you want to do.

• 2:55:04Speaker 04

  Three.

• 2:55:05Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 2:55:05Speaker 03

  Let me go, uh, 85.

• 2:55:08Speaker 04

  Go 29.

• 2:55:10Speaker 00

  Oh, 18.

• 2:55:12Speaker 06

  Big dumper. Big dumpy.

• 2:55:14Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:55:14Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 2:55:15Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:55:16Speaker 06

  Zach, Zach just looks around and until he finds it.

• 2:55:18Speaker 00

  Zach's going to win.

• 2:55:20Speaker 04

  Four.

• 2:55:21Speaker 06

  Was it, was four?

• 2:55:22Speaker 04

  69.

• 2:55:24Speaker 06

  Jeremiah Smith. Four for Jeremiah Smith for Shane.

• 2:55:27Speaker 00

  Shane. 15. Put on your headphones real quick Shane.

• 2:55:30Speaker 04

  Shane headphones.

• 2:55:31Speaker 00

  Hank, did you pick a number?

• 2:55:33Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:55:33Speaker 00

  What'd you pick?

• 2:55:34Speaker 02

  10.

• 2:55:35Speaker 00

  Shane, how, what would, uh, Justin Herbert demanding a trade?

• 2:55:41Speaker 04

  Um.

• 2:55:42Speaker 00

  Hank off, Hank said that it would be a fourth rounder and toss in a second.

• 2:55:48Speaker 06

  I think at least two firsts.

• 2:55:50Speaker 03

  Yeah, that's.

• 2:55:50Speaker 06

  But he has a $75 million dead cap.

• 2:55:53Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:55:53Speaker 06

  This year. So they're just. That's what I'm saying. So maybe a fifth.

• 2:55:58Speaker 00

  You want them memes.

• 2:55:59Speaker 06

  Oh yeah. I don't know.

• 2:56:02Speaker 06

  Could be the fourth, the Dallas.

• 2:56:04Speaker 00

  Yeah. Omar Cooper, Sadiq.

• 2:56:06Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 2:56:06Speaker 00

  Oregon.

• 2:56:13Speaker 00

  Yo, it'd be an interesting spot for him. I wouldn't like it, but Vikings.

• 2:56:19Speaker 06

  Yeah. I saw a lot of that when I was doing this research.

• 2:56:23Speaker 00

  97.

• 2:56:25Speaker 06

  Uh, 97. I get one? Nah, no one, no one did that one. All right, one more.

• 2:56:47Speaker 06

  Long one.

• 2:56:50Speaker 06

  Come on now. Come on now, machine.

• 2:56:52Speaker 03

  Oh, what you got? Twenty-five.

• 2:56:56Speaker 06

  Twenty-five.

• 2:56:58Speaker 03

  Anyone?

• 2:57:01Speaker 03

  No one?

• 2:57:01Speaker 06

  No. No one picked that one.

• 2:57:04Speaker 03

  Alright.

• 2:57:05Speaker 06

  Do the birthdays.

• 2:57:06Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 2:57:07Speaker 00

  Do the birthdays.

• 2:57:08Speaker 03

  Whose birthdays you forget?

• 2:57:10Speaker 06

  Dante's.

• 2:57:11Speaker 03

  I forgot a couple birthdays last week, I'll be honest. I think I forgot Eddie's. Yeah, sorry Eddie.

• 2:57:16Speaker 04

  I think you've accomplished your resolution, buddy.

• 2:57:18Speaker 06

  Yeah, I think so.

• 2:57:19Speaker 04

  You could just give up.

• 2:57:20Speaker 06

  Are you gonna do it next year too?

• 2:57:21Speaker 03

  Uh, probably not. Maybe.

• 2:57:23Speaker 06

  That sounds right.

• 2:57:23Speaker 03

  Maybe.

• 2:57:24Speaker 00

  Oh, no, he said maybe.

• 2:57:26Speaker 03

  Happy birthday.

• 2:57:27Speaker 02

  Maybe what?

• 2:57:28Speaker 00

  He said he's gonna do it again next year.

• 2:57:29Speaker 03

  Happy birthday to Evander Holyfield. Happy birthday to Jon Favreau. Happy birthday to Trey Parker. By the way, this affects Hank none. Zero effect on Hank's life.

• 2:57:39Speaker 00

  You should've seen his face.

• 2:57:40Speaker 03

  Zero effect on his life.

• 2:57:41Speaker 06

  Hank's looks over here. I think it's nice.

• 2:57:44Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:57:44Speaker 06

  You forgot my birthday, but that was, that was fine.

• 2:57:48Speaker 03

  Uh, happy birthday on Tuesday to Henry Lockwood.

• 2:57:54Speaker 06

  Different Henry Lockwood?

• 2:57:55Speaker 03

  He played cricket in England in the 1880s.

• 2:57:58Speaker 06

  Hell yeah.

• 2:57:59Speaker 03

  Happy birthday to Kenny Walker. Happy birthday to Jamie Collins. Happy birthday Keith Hernandez, Paige Bukers.

• 2:58:06Speaker 06

  Becker.

• 2:58:06Speaker 03

  Becker's, whatever you wanna say. Happy birthday Tom Petty. Happy birthday Vigo Mortensen. Happy birthday to Snoop Dogg.

• 2:58:13Speaker 06

  Snoop Dogg.

• 2:58:15Speaker 03

  Love you guys.

• 2:58:16Speaker 04

  I also love you guys.

• 2:58:18Speaker 06

  Hello. Hello.