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  Welcome to Pardon My Take presented by DraftKings. The crown is yours. Today is Wednesday, September 2nd. Boys, the calm before the storm because on Thursday, we start football all the way back. We have our college football mega preview with Brandon and Tom Fornelli coming up. But how's everyone feeling? We're feeling good. There's not a lot going on. I mean, the biggest story going on right now in the sports world besides Dejounte Love, which we got to on Monday is-

• 3:20Speaker 02

  That's not minimized Dejounte Love.

• 3:21Speaker 00

  No, Dejounte Love, huge story. I did love that, no pun intended, that Stribling on the 49ers changed his number to Dejounte Love's number.

• 3:30Speaker 02

  I love that.

• 3:30Speaker 00

  So he's now number seven. So if Dejounte Love had just been able to hold out another week, he could have been like, look, I'm number seven. Yeah, the name's different. That's my, you know, that's my Swiss name or something.

• 3:41Speaker 02

  If I was Dejounte Love, I would issue a cease and desist against Stribling.

• 3:43Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 3:44Speaker 02

  Like they're just giving away that number now after Dejounte made it famous?

• 3:46Speaker 00

  Stribling should pay Dejounte.

• 3:48Speaker 02

  He should.

• 3:48Speaker 00

  $1.3 million for that number. The biggest story though, other than that is a boring story that teams just keep getting sold and bought and Stan Kroenke is now the owner of the Los Angeles Angels, which I think is good.

• 4:02Speaker 02

  I think it's good for baseball. Yeah. Because they were owned by a guy that just did not give a shit and pissed away the prime of Mike Trout's career.

• 4:09Speaker 00

  Yeah. You know, I learned a weird stupid fact about the Angels. Hank, I'll ask you this trivia question. The Angels stadium is the blank oldest stadium in Major League Baseball.

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  Third.

• 4:24Speaker 00

  Ooh. Okay. You went the other way. It's fourth. But yeah, I don't know.

• 4:28Speaker 02

  Fenway.

• 4:30Speaker 00

  Uh, Wrigley, Fenway. What's one I'm missing?

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  Kaminsky?

• 4:35Speaker 00

  No, there's one I'm missing. It's very obvious. Oh, Dodger Stadium and then the Angels. Kind of crazy.

• 4:41Speaker 02

  That is crazy. Yeah, that is nuts. Yeah. But that's just not because it's historic.

• 4:44Speaker 00

  No.

• 4:45Speaker 02

  It's because he's cheap.

• 4:46Speaker 00

  And everyone's built new stadiums.

• 4:48Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 4:49Speaker 00

  In the last 30 years.

• 4:50Speaker 02

  Everyone has spent money on their team except for this guy.

• 4:51Speaker 00

  Yeah. I think it's good for the Angels, right? Artie Moreno is not, I mean, they had Shohei Ohtani and Mike Trout in their prime and didn't do anything.

• 4:59Speaker 02

  Yeah. It's disgusting what they did. Disgusting what they did with that roster. So yeah, I think it's good for baseball, but I mean, pretty soon Stan Kroenke is just going to own everything.

• 5:07Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 5:08Speaker 02

  We're just kind of waiting for him to buy the rest of the farmland.

• 5:11Speaker 03

  Don't people not like him as an owner?

• 5:13Speaker 00

  Stan Kroenke, Arsenal owners do not like him, but then they just won the league.

• 5:18Speaker 02

  They gave him a pass because they just won the EPL.

• 5:20Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 5:21Speaker 02

  So yeah, he's, he's done a lot of winning.

• 5:23Speaker 00

  He has, I mean, one with the Nuggets, one with the Rams, one with Arsenal. How have the, uh, the Blizzard done? I think he has a lacrosse team.

• 5:35Speaker 04

  Yeah. The NLL team's really good.

• 5:37Speaker 00

  Yeah, they are?

• 5:38Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 5:38Speaker 00

  The Blizzard? Is it the Blizzard?

• 5:40Speaker 04

  No, I believe the Mammoths.

• 5:42Speaker 00

  Oh, the Blizzarders Overwatch team.

• 5:44Speaker 05

  So he bought stake in Blizzard, who is the developer of different games.

• 5:49Speaker 00

  Got it.

• 5:50Speaker 05

  Yep.

• 5:51Speaker 02

  All I know is that our lacrosse team would smoke them.

• 5:53Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's facts, even if we don't play in the same league as them.

• 5:56Speaker 02

  We play outdoors.

• 5:56Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 5:57Speaker 02

  That's, that's where lacrosse is meant to be played.

• 5:59Speaker 00

  Yes. Okay. Um, does anyone have anything else? I mean, we've, we've, uh, we're going to get to a lot of the sports stories going on in Hot Seat, Cool Throne.

• 6:07Speaker 02

  Well, yeah. And we're going to talk a little bit about it with, with Tom and Brandon, but the big college football story today, because there's no real games to speak of outside of week zero is, um, there's going to be a court ruling on Thursday that will determine whether or not LSU is allowed to have, um, players who worked out and tried out for NFL rosters.

• 6:26Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 6:27Speaker 02

  Come back and play in school. Um, the Big Ten has already banned that from happening.

• 6:31Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 6:32Speaker 02

  Uh, the-

• 6:32Speaker 00

  Leaders.

• 6:33Speaker 02

  Yeah. The SEC condemned it and then they got together and they're talking about banning it. And then now they're saying that they will in fact kick LSU out if they attempt to do this.

• 6:42Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 6:42Speaker 02

  Which, um, I mean, this is good. I think for LSU's brand is just being like Rebels.

• 6:47Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 6:48Speaker 02

  In a conference that also features Ole Miss, they are the true Rebels. Uh, but it's also like Lane Kiffin doesn't give a shit about anything except winning football games. And I don't think that he'll be allowed to do it, but it's not as bad. It's not as much of a sky is falling situation as everybody else is making it out to be.

• 7:04Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 7:04Speaker 02

  Because it's only players that got that extra year that are allowed to come back. So this is the only time that this is going to be a question. It's not like, yes, college football is a wild west right now with very few rules, but it's not like in the future, these guys are going to be able to go to the NFL and come back to college afterwards. It's kind of a one year thing. I don't think that they're going to be allowed to do it, but that would be, it would be kind of funny if LSU had like guys that just tried out for the NFL.

• 7:31Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 7:32Speaker 02

  Going up against, going up against Clemson and just a bunch of guys that like Dabo won't even go into the portal.

• 7:37Speaker 00

  No.

• 7:38Speaker 02

  There's got to be like Clemson College.

• 7:39Speaker 00

  They have to be recruited. He has to have met the person when they were 15.

• 7:42Speaker 02

  Outstanding young men, uh, who live and bleed tiger orange.

• 7:46Speaker 00

  Yes. The other, the other story going on is, uh, everyone's doing their fantasy drafts this week, next week. Um, do, where do you draft Puka and Josh Jacobs? The, the great moral question.

• 7:59Speaker 02

  Do you issue a statement?

• 8:00Speaker 00

  I do love, I do love whatever there's a fantasy guy online who like if a rest happens, he's like, I've now downgraded him to like a ninth round value. Again, that's what, that's the important part. I also saw that the GM for the Packers said he's not seen the Josh Jacobs video. Uh, he also gave that press conference with his eyes closed.

• 8:17Speaker 02

  Hmm.

• 8:17Speaker 00

  So I don't know if that's why he hasn't seen it.

• 8:20Speaker 02

  Wait, he hasn't, have you seen it?

• 8:21Speaker 00

  Uh, I have not seen it.

• 8:22Speaker 02

  Do you think that the Packers have had a chance to see it yet?

• 8:26Speaker 00

  I, I think if they wanted to see it, they probably could.

• 8:29Speaker 02

  They probably have a security person.

• 8:30Speaker 00

  They probably have, they probably have a Big Dom adjacent guy who could probably get his hands on it. But then again, if you don't open your eyes, you, you never have to see it.

• 8:37Speaker 02

  Well, also the Packers, this falls on the shoulders of their 30,000 owners.

• 8:41Speaker 00

  True.

• 8:42Speaker 02

  Like all of them are just as guilty as anyone for not, not taking a stand. Because as a fancy football owner, I issued a statement during my draft that I was not going, I wasn't going to touch him.

• 8:51Speaker 00

  I did too, and then he fell to the ninth round.

• 8:52Speaker 02

  And if there's that kind of value, then it's almost like you're, you're virtue signaling by not drafting him. So you kind of have to take-

• 8:58Speaker 00

  Right, right, right.

• 8:59Speaker 02

  You're being a white knight at that point.

• 9:01Speaker 00

  I actually did, no one cares, but we did a fantasy draft, Blutman and Ebo and I, and Blutman wanted to take him in the sixth round. And I was like, dude, you can't, we can't do that. And then he lasted all the way to the ninth. And I was like, and we had the wraparound, so we didn't pick him in the eighth.

• 9:16Speaker 02

  That's good. Yeah.

• 9:16Speaker 00

  We took him with the pick after.

• 9:17Speaker 02

  You took him with the second pick.

• 9:18Speaker 00

  Yes, yes.

• 9:19Speaker 02

  You pun, that was punishment.

• 9:20Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 9:21Speaker 02

  Is that he doesn't get that guaranteed contract that he would get in the seventh round.

• 9:24Speaker 00

  Fall all the way to the ninth round.

• 9:25Speaker 02

  Yeah. I have maybe what I think might be the worst fantasy football team, um, in history right now.

• 9:31Speaker 00

  Oh, no.

• 9:31Speaker 02

  Um, and it was, I panicked during the draft yesterday. Obviously I don't care that much about fantasy. It's fun to talk about, uh, but I guess the lion's share of my brain is allocated towards just like thinking of which futures I'm going to take that will probably be wrong. Um, so-

• 9:44Speaker 00

  So you're double dipping in losses.

• 9:46Speaker 02

  Yeah. It's kind of like-

• 9:47Speaker 00

  I do that often.

• 9:47Speaker 02

  What, what my fancy strategy this year came down to was essentially, um, guys that were good four years ago. And then if it's not a guy that was good four years ago, it's a player that is on the Washington commanders that I think will have a breakout season.

• 10:00Speaker 00

  Love that.

• 10:01Speaker 02

  So those are the two buckets that I'm really pulling from this year.

• 10:04Speaker 00

  You always got to be, uh, you gotta, you gotta leave yourself a spot late in the fantasy draft to draft a guy that was good a while ago. I think I got Tony Gonzalez like five years too late.

• 10:14Speaker 02

  I thought you were going to say you got him this year.

• 10:15Speaker 00

  No, like I, listen, if he's around.

• 10:18Speaker 02

  I saw a picture of Jeremy Shockey.

• 10:19Speaker 00

  Consider it.

• 10:20Speaker 02

  He looks like he could still play.

• 10:21Speaker 00

  Yeah, I would definitely consider it. Did Jeremy Shockey come out and say that he got a vasectomy when he got drafted? That was weird.

• 10:28Speaker 02

  Yeah. I think he did.

• 10:30Speaker 00

  Yeah. Just like a preemptive.

• 10:33Speaker 02

  Some guys like their balls deflated, Hank.

• 10:35Speaker 03

  Married to the game.

• 10:37Speaker 00

  Yeah, I think he, I think he did say that. It's always funny seeing like these old athletes just. All right, Jeremy Jacque, you got a vasectomy.

• 10:45Speaker 02

  So that was, that was essentially my strategy mixed in with one extra thing, which was a new face and new place. Locked it in Kenny Gainwell.

• 10:54Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 10:54Speaker 02

  Buck.

• 10:55Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 10:55Speaker 02

  And I cemented that in my brain by drafting him.

• 10:57Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 10:58Speaker 02

  There we go. That's how you learn things.

• 11:00Speaker 00

  We were get, we, by the way, we, we do the new, new face or same face, new place in a trust tree environment on Monday's show. Got some blowback that we're our ball knowledge. Listen, that's the, that's the point of the exercise.

• 11:15Speaker 02

  We get ready for the regular.

• 11:16Speaker 00

  Yeah. If we screwed up on the first Sunday of, of, of the NFL season, we said Kenny Gainwell's on the Bucks. Then you could be like, dude, you don't fucking know ball. Everyone has to learn their process in the off season at their own pace. Sometimes we're slow learners.

• 11:31Speaker 02

  Yeah, my brain just, it, it shifts. It undergoes slow, but, but steady changes. And, uh, you know, there's certain times of year that that happens. And right now is where I'm, I'm getting those old wrinkles back from the NFL.

• 11:42Speaker 00

  Yeah. All right. Do you guys want to do a pick for, uh, week one of college football?

• 11:46Speaker 02

  Sure do.

• 11:47Speaker 00

  Did, did a terrible job week zero, uh, as a collective. That's okay. I think we went one and two. That's okay.

• 11:54Speaker 02

  That's pretty good.

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• 13:04Speaker 00

  Um, all right, week one. College football.

• 13:10Speaker 00

  Let's not fuck this up.

• 13:12Speaker 00

  Hank?

• 13:13Speaker 03

  Yeah, going grit week.

• 13:16Speaker 03

  Tigers.

• 13:16Speaker 00

  I love that.

• 13:17Speaker 03

  Minus, minus 10 against the Tigers.

• 13:19Speaker 00

  The week one's college football slate is not great. It was, it's, it's great week two, week one, there's not, I mean, listen, we're going to be excited to watch football. But it could be, it's lacking in, in some departments. That is though, the, the premiere game on Saturday, Saturday night.

• 13:37Speaker 02

  But that's okay. We still love it.

• 13:39Speaker 00

  We still.

• 13:39Speaker 02

  We still love it.

• 13:40Speaker 00

  Very much. So, so much, so, so much.

• 13:42Speaker 02

  We're proud of it.

• 13:43Speaker 00

  I'm going to take, uh, West Virginia minus 21. I'm high on Rich Rod. I think he's going to get his, his swagger back this year. I think this is a Rich Rod renaissance year. You just close your eyes, late October. Game day's at Morgantown. Pat McAfee's going crazy. Rich Rod. Hey, it's, it's like the old days.

• 14:03Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 14:03Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 14:05Speaker 02

  That's interesting because I also have a favorite.

• 14:08Speaker 00

  That's okay.

• 14:08Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 14:09Speaker 00

  Week one is for favorites.

• 14:10Speaker 02

  Week one is kind of for favorites. Uh, so I'm going to, yeah, screw it. I'm going to do it.

• 14:16Speaker 00

  Put in the spread for LSU, whoever's doing this.

• 14:18Speaker 02

  Yeah, minus 10, right?

• 14:19Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 14:19Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 14:20Speaker 00

  Yeah. I kind of like the under in that game too.

• 14:23Speaker 02

  All right, I'm going to take Alabama.

• 14:26Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 14:27Speaker 02

  Crimson Tide.

• 14:29Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 14:29Speaker 02

  27 and a half.

• 14:31Speaker 00

  Yeah. We're going to.

• 14:33Speaker 02

  Roll.

• 14:33Speaker 00

  BTA. All right, this is the BTA parlay.

• 14:37Speaker 02

  BTA over.

• 14:38Speaker 00

  Plus 565. Love it. All right, anything else, uh, that's popping off right now? Liv is dead. Oh, who's tweeting meatballs from Max's account?

• 14:52Speaker 04

  I thought Max probably.

• 14:54Speaker 00

  So Max, there was a tweet from Max's account that said just meatballs. And then he quote tweeted and said, who's tweeting meatballs from my account?

• 15:00Speaker 02

  It's probably Max.

• 15:01Speaker 04

  Yeah, we're all looking for the guy who, who tweeted from Max.

• 15:03Speaker 00

  Was there any chance that Max left his, uh, Twitter open on his computer?

• 15:08Speaker 04

  I don't believe so.

• 15:08Speaker 02

  I don't think so either. I'm going to call Max real quick. Just.

• 15:12Speaker 00

  Do you think he picks up? He's probably, he's probably, yeah, just, he's got pasta sauce all over him right now. He's got fucking Alfredo on his, oh, hey, what's up?

• 15:24Speaker 06

  What, what were you talking about?

• 15:26Speaker 00

  We were talking about, uh, the Alfredo that you probably have dripping down your, your, your beard right now.

• 15:31Speaker 06

  If you think that they had Alfredo in Italy, you're an absolute.

• 15:36Speaker 00

  Oh, no. Did you see the Mount Rushmore on Monday?

• 15:41Speaker 06

  Yeah, it was like, the fact that that was Zach, I like still think that that was edited to like, that video was just supposed to be shown to me to make me think that it was Zach. I saw it.

• 15:52Speaker 00

  What?

• 15:52Speaker 06

  To the full show.

• 15:53Speaker 00

  What do you mean? And he said he, your one, one pick for heavy things?

• 15:58Speaker 06

  Insane. I think he's still mad at me about the, the bad friends incident.

• 16:03Speaker 00

  No, he's got a date with Rudy. We're going to talk about that in a minute on the show. Uh, Max, the question though, we have, we're calling you, we miss you. Who's tweeting meatballs from your account?

• 16:13Speaker 06

  A hundred percent memes. I, cause my Twitter is, is logged into the booth, the booth computer, which means that memes has full access to my Twitter, which is, I realize is now a very bad thing.

• 16:26Speaker 00

  Oh, oh, wait, is this, are you logged in right now, Zach on Max's Twitter?

• 16:31Speaker 06

  Is Zach again?

• 16:33Speaker 00

  Yes. Hit, hit a, hit a tweet on Max's account right now. What should we say?

• 16:40Speaker 02

  Maybe something about LeBron?

• 16:42Speaker 00

  Or how about, how about, uh, the LeBron is as good as the Alfredo in Italy?

• 16:48Speaker 06

  It's not, not, doesn't, doesn't exist.

• 16:51Speaker 00

  Okay. And then people are going to be like, wow, you're.

• 16:55Speaker 00

  He's spell checking Alfredo. Okay. Hit send.

• 16:59Speaker 06

  Of course he's spell checking Alfredo.

• 17:00Speaker 00

  All right, we're good. All right. See you, Max. See you on, on Monday, right?

• 17:04Speaker 02

  Max, congratulations on Taco Fall.

• 17:06Speaker 00

  Yeah, congratulations Taco Fall.

• 17:07Speaker 02

  Taco Fall, Taco Fall, Max.

• 17:09Speaker 00

  Also Pete Prisco was Pete Prisco, you ducked Pete Prisco. He was looking for you.

• 17:14Speaker 06

  I also said that PFT loves Jalen Hurts. I know that he, he wanted me to not hear that. I heard it. I saw.

• 17:20Speaker 02

  My God, that's embarrassing.

• 17:21Speaker 00

  Oh, man, you listened?

• 17:23Speaker 02

  Damn.

• 17:23Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 17:24Speaker 02

  It's okay. All the interceptions he's throwing is just because he's trying new things.

• 17:27Speaker 06

  I, I saw it.

• 17:28Speaker 02

  He said he was trying new things.

• 17:29Speaker 06

  I couldn't take my headphones off. I know you like to talk about Jalen Hurts and tell me to take my headphones off. I, my headphones are on.

• 17:36Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 17:36Speaker 02

  I can't hear him.

• 17:36Speaker 00

  Okay. He can't hear you took the headphones off. All right. See you, Max. Have fun with the Alfredo.

• 17:41Speaker 06

  Yep.

• 17:42Speaker 00

  All right, bye. Oh, Alfredo was, was created in Rome, Italy in the early 20th century. Oh, that's a new one.

• 17:50Speaker 00

  Early 20th century is a new one.

• 17:53Speaker 00

  Oh, no, no, that's not a new one. That's 1908. Okay. So what is Max saying? Alfredo, is that true? We got paisans in the, in the booth.

• 18:01Speaker 04

  He's hammered.

• 18:02Speaker 02

  Yeah, I think, I, I think maybe Max just hasn't eaten Alfredo this week.

• 18:06Speaker 00

  Yeah. What is it? What does he mean?

• 18:07Speaker 04

  You don't eat Alfredo.

• 18:09Speaker 02

  Alfredo doesn't work for a sex vacation. It's too heavy. You gotta stay light.

• 18:13Speaker 00

  What, what is that? What? They just don't have Alfredo there? Cacio e pepe?

• 18:18Speaker 02

  Yeah, cacio e pepe is delicious. Can we do some trust tree real quick?

• 18:23Speaker 04

  I didn't see any when I was there. A lot of carbonara and like pesto and lasagna.

• 18:30Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 18:32Speaker 00

  And also just the, the NFL draft.

• 18:36Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 18:36Speaker 00

  People forget Shane is such a fucking ball knower and ballaholic that he went to Italy and stayed up all night watching the NFL draft. That's how I respect the fuck out of you, Shane.

• 18:47Speaker 04

  Solo sex vacation.

• 18:48Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 18:52Speaker 00

  Trust tree, go ahead.

• 18:53Speaker 02

  Trust tree and Max does have to take his headphones off for this.

• 18:58Speaker 02

  I'm, I'm feeling really, really bad about the upcoming commander season.

• 19:04Speaker 00

  Why?

• 19:04Speaker 02

  Very bad about it. Just bad vibes coming out of camp from the local media, from the, uh, the GM who's already getting up in front of the team and saying that there's a lot of stuff that they've done behind the scenes.

• 19:14Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 19:15Speaker 02

  The fan base hasn't seen to shore up this roster.

• 19:17Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 19:18Speaker 02

  Um, saying it's unfair to judge a general manager, uh, based on, uh, moves that only took place six months ago.

• 19:27Speaker 02

  Just bad, just bad vibes.

• 19:28Speaker 00

  So what?

• 19:29Speaker 02

  Been a lot of good fun stories.

• 19:31Speaker 00

  What's the success? Do you want to change it? I think you said 10 wins when we had Booger on.

• 19:36Speaker 02

  Playoffs. No, I said playoffs.

• 19:37Speaker 00

  Playoffs.

• 19:38Speaker 02

  Playoffs. That's still success. Listen, so that's, I, I'm holding firm playoffs. That's success. I'm just, I'm getting, I don't know if it's just, uh, this time of year, you know, your body experiences trauma that you don't even know about. And so maybe every year I'm just used to getting my teeth kicked in.

• 19:54Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 19:55Speaker 02

  This time of year that it's just like a defense mechanism I have. It's early September. Wake up the guy from Green Day and I feel like this is where I get my heart ripped out of my chest every year.

• 20:06Speaker 00

  I think this is a totally normal thing because I've had a similar week as well with the Bears defense.

• 20:13Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 20:13Speaker 00

  Where I've been, Kyler Gordon might not play at all this year. We had to make a trade. We don't, we already were thin at defensive line. We had to trade Dexter, which like he wasn't good, but it's giving up on a draft pick that quickly. And it's just, I've had the same thought where I was just like, hey, what if the defense is worse than last year and we have to just score 40 points a game? So I think this is where you, this is the part of, yeah, this is the part of the season where you have to, you have to get in your, uh, feels and, and, and scaries before we kick off the, the, the season.

• 20:45Speaker 02

  I gotta work through all of it right now.

• 20:46Speaker 00

  Have you guys been going through any? Have you guys had any trust tree, you know, like dark thoughts? Hank?

• 20:52Speaker 03

  No, I'm excited.

• 20:53Speaker 00

  Oh, okay.

• 20:54Speaker 02

  Good.

• 20:54Speaker 00

  Shane?

• 20:56Speaker 01

  I mean, of course.

• 20:57Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 20:57Speaker 01

  Herbert's gonna die.

• 20:58Speaker 00

  Share it. Yeah.

• 20:59Speaker 01

  I mean, the, the, the Chargers have a pretty brutal schedule.

• 21:02Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 21:02Speaker 01

  Uh, memes, memes texted me a couple hours ago asking if I saw what the, what was it? Week six through eight?

• 21:08Speaker 04

  Uh, week eight and nine.

• 21:09Speaker 01

  Eight and nine. It's the Rams and Texans back to back.

• 21:12Speaker 00

  Okay. That's pretty fucked up for memes to text you that.

• 21:15Speaker 01

  Yeah, I was feeling that was, I was.

• 21:17Speaker 03

  It's the playoffs, dude. We do this every year.

• 21:20Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 21:21Speaker 03

  If you're gonna be a winner, you gotta beat good teams.

• 21:23Speaker 01

  I'm not.

• 21:23Speaker 03

  You can't hide from.

• 21:24Speaker 01

  That's not my worry.

• 21:25Speaker 03

  You can't hide from teams in the playoffs.

• 21:26Speaker 00

  That's not always true, Hank. I'm trying to think of some recent examples.

• 21:30Speaker 01

  My worry is Herbert dying.

• 21:32Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

• 21:32Speaker 04

  And I was trying to share that information with Shane, that his quarterback might die.

• 21:35Speaker 00

  What about you, memes?

• 21:36Speaker 04

  I'm fired up. I think the Jets might start 4-0.

• 21:38Speaker 00

  Okay. What about you, Zach?

• 21:41Speaker 02

  I'm worried about the energy in the locker room.

• 21:43Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 21:43Speaker 02

  Very worried.

• 21:44Speaker 00

  Yeah, fair, fair. But I think that's, that's normal. You gotta, you can't go into the season being like, we're the best team ever.

• 21:50Speaker 02

  I think especially if you're a fan of a team that historically has not been very good.

• 21:53Speaker 00

  Right.

• 21:54Speaker 02

  It's, I can't help but think that bad things are about to happen. Um, and it's gonna take like four years of any sort of success to change my, my like natural inclination on September 1st about any of that.

• 22:04Speaker 00

  Well, yeah, and it's, it's also like the way that the commanders went, you know, rookie year, Jayden Daniels, then this, then last year, like I'm kind of it's staring at a similar thing where it's like last year was so fun and it will be very hard to be as fun and win the NFC North again. It's a hard, you know, mountain to climb back up.

• 22:23Speaker 02

  Yeah. What if it goes away?

• 22:24Speaker 00

  Scared.

• 22:25Speaker 02

  But yeah, I, I think, um, I did see a chart that made me happy yesterday and it was the, the, uh, youngest to oldest NFL teams.

• 22:33Speaker 00

  You're young again.

• 22:34Speaker 02

  And last year, the commanders were by far the oldest team in the NFL. And you saw it on our defense with how slow we were. And now, uh, maybe some of these guys went back to college. I don't know. But, uh, now we're only 27 years and 102 days, which puts us one, two, three, four, fifth to last, sixth to last.

• 22:51Speaker 00

  That's good. That's progress.

• 22:52Speaker 02

  Right next to the Seahawks. So I, we're in a normal, a normal age range.

• 22:56Speaker 00

  Falcons, sneaky old, what the hell?

• 22:58Speaker 02

  Yeah, Falcons, sneaky old, Dolphins, the baby Dolphins.

• 23:01Speaker 00

  That's tough when you're the Falcons and you're old and bad.

• 23:04Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 23:05Speaker 00

  You know, like the Rams are old, but they're old and good.

• 23:08Speaker 02

  That's the quadrant of the graph you don't want to be in. It's old and bad. The Dolphins, by far the youngest team in the NFL.

• 23:14Speaker 00

  Yeah. Okay. Let's, uh, let's do hot seat, cool throne. We're gonna talk some more sports and then we will get to our Mount Rushmore and then our college football mega preview with Brandon Walker and Tom Fornelli. Okay. Hot Seat, Cool Throne is brought to you by TickPick, the no nonsense ticket app. Check the calendar, Sundays, Mondays, Thursdays, football is officially taking over and the couch doesn't deserve you for all 18 weeks. So get out to a game and get your tickets on TickPick where there are no service fees ever. I'm already looking at that Monday night game Eagles, Bears. Max and I are gonna use TickPick. We're gonna go to Soldier Field. We're excited to catch that game. So across the whole season, those savings could add up to a parking, food and a jersey.

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• 24:12Speaker 03

  Kanye, yep, Friday.

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• 24:41Speaker 03

  Uh, my hot seat is actually you, Big Cat.

• 24:43Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 24:44Speaker 03

  And Dave Portnoy and Ryan Whitney.

• 24:46Speaker 02

  Oh, why's that?

• 24:47Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 24:47Speaker 03

  Today, Wednesday, as you're listening, uh, 11 a.m. Eastern, 10 a.m. Central. We are live streaming from Stream Song in Florida, a three-on-three scramble. It's me, PFT, John Gruden.

• 25:02Speaker 00

  John Gruden.

• 25:03Speaker 03

  Verse, Big Cat, Dave, Ryan Whitney.

• 25:06Speaker 02

  And me and Hank.

• 25:06Speaker 03

  18 holes.

• 25:07Speaker 02

  And me and Hank, we're in lockstep.

• 25:08Speaker 03

  We are in lockstep.

• 25:09Speaker 00

  So what, so why are we on hot seat? Cause Ryan Whitney is, it's gonna be Ryan Whitney verse.

• 25:14Speaker 02

  A lockstep.

• 25:15Speaker 03

  Yeah, that's, that's, that's, I guess the hot seat's Ryan Whitney, cause he's, he's gonna, he's gonna have to carry. It's gonna be a lot of pressure. I, I just feel, I feel very confident and I'm excited.

• 25:23Speaker 00

  Like any golf event I participate in, if I can contribute a couple shots, I've done my job. Wouldn't you say? So I'm not on the hot seat. The, the expectations for my golf.

• 25:34Speaker 03

  Is your expectations to win?

• 25:35Speaker 00

  My expectations are Ryan Whitney should win with a little assist from me and Dave.

• 25:40Speaker 02

  Yeah. If you show up on time, give him a couple reads, that's really all like, the one thing they'll.

• 25:44Speaker 00

  Hit a couple drivers in the middle.

• 25:46Speaker 02

  You sleep in, he's not gonna be happy.

• 25:47Speaker 00

  That's true.

• 25:48Speaker 02

  Uh, so are we gonna have a rules official?

• 25:50Speaker 00

  I think Frankie Borelli is gonna be the rules official.

• 25:52Speaker 02

  I feel bad for Frankie Borelli.

• 25:53Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 25:54Speaker 02

  That's gonna be a very tough job for Frankie Borelli.

• 25:56Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 25:57Speaker 02

  Now, would he be compromised in any way?

• 25:58Speaker 00

  A hundred percent.

• 25:59Speaker 02

  Is he, would he be more inclined to rule in favor of certain teams?

• 26:02Speaker 00

  Uh, I think he's gonna try to be impartial, but you never know with the Dave Frankie, uh, relationship. But yeah, I, I don't, I don't feel any, uh, pressure in this golf outing, other than, like I said, I'd say two drives in the middle, maybe one chip that gets close and hit one long putt. Boom. Job is done.

• 26:22Speaker 02

  I can't wait to have one of my boys out there.

• 26:23Speaker 00

  It's gonna be great.

• 26:24Speaker 03

  Yeah, I'm excited. I'm really excited. So it doesn't rain.

• 26:26Speaker 00

  Can people do a free to play on it?

• 26:27Speaker 03

  There is a free to play on DraftKings. Uh, use code grudgematch on DraftKings. And if you, it's a bunch of questions. If you pick the most questions correct, you win a share of, uh, $10,000, $10,000 DK dollars.

• 26:40Speaker 02

  Hank, I have a question.

• 26:40Speaker 03

  Yes, PFT.

• 26:41Speaker 02

  Um, can I just do this in certain states or is it available?

• 26:44Speaker 03

  It's available in all 50 states.

• 26:45Speaker 02

  Oh, that's crazy. Okay.

• 26:47Speaker 00

  That's sick. Alright, yeah. There you go, Hank.

• 26:49Speaker 02

  Good point, Hank. Yeah, memes? Can memes ask a question, Hank?

• 26:52Speaker 04

  Zach just said all the pressure's on Hank. I would like him to elaborate on that.

• 26:56Speaker 00

  Yeah, no.

• 26:57Speaker 04

  I just think it's high pressure, Hank. Yeah, definitely.

• 26:59Speaker 03

  It is high pressure. No, I, I have, I have, I am, I am definitely the, uh, the worst performer, although Big Cat and the Ryder Cup, not great, but I definitely.

• 27:08Speaker 00

  But again, I don't golf.

• 27:10Speaker 03

  You golf, you've been golfing this summer.

• 27:11Speaker 00

  The Ryder Cup?

• 27:12Speaker 03

  You've been, no, I'm saying.

• 27:13Speaker 00

  Before the Ryder Cup?

• 27:14Speaker 03

  I'm just saying.

• 27:14Speaker 00

  Did I golf?

• 27:15Speaker 03

  Documented history of golfing on camera.

• 27:17Speaker 00

  But I don't golf.

• 27:19Speaker 03

  But you do now.

• 27:19Speaker 00

  But I didn't before the Ryder Cup.

• 27:21Speaker 03

  But you do now, so there's pressure.

• 27:22Speaker 00

  I will, I will give four shots.

• 27:24Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 27:25Speaker 00

  I will, I will, I will contribute four shots. If I don't, then hand up, I did not do my job. But Hank, you're the best golfer on your team. You golf by far the most out of anyone who's playing.

• 27:36Speaker 03

  I mean, PFT, PFT is probably close. He was also in the, in the international, so he's, he's the golfer of the group.

• 27:41Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 27:42Speaker 03

  So was Gruden. I was, I'm the only one on my team not.

• 27:44Speaker 02

  Wait, I'm the golfer. If, if we were to sit in a room together and let's say Hank and I did a podcast.

• 27:49Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 27:49Speaker 02

  Um, and somebody was like, walked into the room, who's the golf guy here?

• 27:54Speaker 00

  Hank, who's the UFC guy? Zach?

• 27:56Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 27:57Speaker 03

  But yeah, there's a lot of pressure on me.

• 27:58Speaker 02

  Who's the flyover guy here?

• 28:00Speaker 03

  Thankfully, if I can, I, I got.

• 28:01Speaker 00

  Who's the sex marathon guy? Memes?

• 28:03Speaker 03

  I can go from both sides. So if, you know, if things are going, things are going south, I can just switch.

• 28:07Speaker 02

  Snatch that crown from memes. Um, I'm very excited about this. I can't wait. I hear it's a very nice course that we're gonna be playing.

• 28:13Speaker 03

  Brand new course.

• 28:13Speaker 02

  Hank and I just got done, uh, we played Pebble over the weekend with a, at a wonderful DraftKings event and it was.

• 28:19Speaker 00

  Oh, Hank golfed this weekend?

• 28:20Speaker 02

  It was a real blast. Well, this is work. This was a business trip and so.

• 28:24Speaker 03

  We did get a pre-run in Friday. That was just.

• 28:26Speaker 00

  Did you golf on Monday?

• 28:27Speaker 03

  No.

• 28:27Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 28:28Speaker 02

  This was on, uh, yeah, it's on, on Saturday that we played Pebble and, um, it was, it was a lot of fun. I think with me and him, we did a shamble on the back nine. I think we were about even, weren't we?

• 28:39Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 28:39Speaker 02

  At Pebble?

• 28:40Speaker 03

  We played well.

• 28:40Speaker 02

  We were kind of on fire in the back nine. And then at the Q and A afterwards, um, there was a very, there was a funny moment where they asked us to get up on stage with Frank Caliendo and do like a Q and A with the audience. And they said something to Hank about, Hank, tell the story. You got confused about what.

• 28:57Speaker 03

  Well, alright, first of all, first of all.

• 28:59Speaker 02

  Hank wasn't talking at all in the Q and A.

• 29:01Speaker 03

  First of all, Frank Caliendo did a full set at, like at dinner, absolutely crushed it. Like was so, so, so funny. Everyone was laughing. It was a great amount of time. And then they're like, hey, will you guys follow up after and do a Q and A with Frank Caliendo? And I was like, I don't know what I'm supposed to say. It was me, PFT and Francis. And I, I didn't, I didn't necessarily have questions. I wasn't like, I wasn't, I didn't, I didn't know what to do up there. They were like, will you guys go up? I was like, sure.

• 29:28Speaker 02

  You remember the Jerry O'Connell interview?

• 29:30Speaker 03

  So I was kinda.

• 29:30Speaker 02

  It was kinda like that.

• 29:31Speaker 03

  I was kinda just sitting up there, yeah, sitting up there laughing, you know, PFT would say something and I would just sell it like it was really funny.

• 29:37Speaker 02

  Thank you.

• 29:37Speaker 03

  And then I said, I.

• 29:38Speaker 00

  It wasn't really fun?

• 29:39Speaker 02

  No, no, Hank's.

• 29:40Speaker 00

  Like it was really fun?

• 29:41Speaker 02

  He was trying, yeah, he was trying. Hank's doing a great job right now. I love it. I appreciate this.

• 29:43Speaker 03

  And, and I said, I chimed in, I was like, yeah, that was great or something. And then there was a, a, a group of guys right to my left that started like laughing and they're like, oh, thank you, Hank. Like we did the side bet on like your word count. Uh, and you just hit it or whatever. And I was like, oh, I got you. And then they did a Q and A where they pass out mics to the crowd. That same group of guys was like, what was your, he said worst shot today? But because it was the guys that had just been telling me about their word count, I thought he said, what was your word count today? So I was like, oh, you know, it was, uh, it's about 12, now it's 13, 14, 15, 16. And they were like, no, no, no, worst shot. It was, the room, it was bad.

• 30:22Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 30:23Speaker 02

  It was, it was really bad. Really good. I was like, that's my boy Hank. He's being so funny right now.

• 30:26Speaker 00

  You laughed like it, like it was funny.

• 30:28Speaker 03

  Yeah. No, it wasn't. It wasn't funny. It wasn't funny.

• 30:31Speaker 02

  Low-key a genius.

• 30:31Speaker 00

  Chad loves Hank right now.

• 30:32Speaker 03

  We got burned by Frank Caliendo. He was just so funny. Uh, tough to follow.

• 30:36Speaker 02

  Yeah, very tough act.

• 30:38Speaker 00

  Okay. And your cool throne?

• 30:39Speaker 03

  Uh, my cool, my cool throne's CTE.

• 30:41Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 30:42Speaker 02

  Good, bad?

• 30:43Speaker 03

  Tua.

• 30:45Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 30:45Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 30:46Speaker 00

  I think Druski's skit.

• 30:48Speaker 03

  No.

• 30:48Speaker 00

  We can joke about CTE now.

• 30:50Speaker 02

  It's finally been long enough.

• 30:51Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 30:51Speaker 02

  Since, tell the truth.

• 30:53Speaker 03

  Uh, Tua posted an Instagram that he said, he like, just a bunch of, you know, pictures with him from preseason where in the Falcons series, he's standard, standard Instagram post. And he's captured it for the A. And then he left a comment from his same account. We're so proud of you. You got this.

• 31:12Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 31:12Speaker 03

  So he's talking, Tua's talking in the third person.

• 31:14Speaker 00

  But he, people are proud of him, including Tua.

• 31:17Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 31:18Speaker 00

  He is proud of himself.

• 31:19Speaker 02

  He was very proud of himself.

• 31:20Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 31:21Speaker 02

  What's wrong with gassing yourself up?

• 31:23Speaker 00

  Self-confidence.

• 31:24Speaker 03

  You are the man, Skip.

• 31:25Speaker 02

  Yeah, you're the man, Skip. I love the show on FS1. If you, uh, read any sports psychologist, they tell you that, that visualization and important self-talk is, uh, is actually like the key to unlocking a, a next level of performance. So maybe Tua has just shown himself some love on this one.

• 31:41Speaker 03

  But it's like, not self-talk, cause it's like third person talk.

• 31:45Speaker 02

  You're the man.

• 31:45Speaker 00

  You're the man.

• 31:46Speaker 02

  Come on, Tua.

• 31:46Speaker 03

  We're so proud of you.

• 31:48Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 31:48Speaker 03

  Who's the we?

• 31:49Speaker 02

  Yes, multiple people that are so proud? I don't know.

• 31:53Speaker 03

  So yeah.

• 31:53Speaker 02

  That's a tough one.

• 31:54Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's tough. That's tough.

• 31:55Speaker 02

  To explain away.

• 31:56Speaker 00

  Players fuck up.

• 31:57Speaker 02

  I got a, I got an idea. Why not Joe Milton on the Falcons? Joe Milton just got waived by the Cowboys.

• 32:04Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 32:05Speaker 02

  Why not Joe Milton on the Falcons? Why not Joe Milton on the Browns?

• 32:08Speaker 00

  He's not a lefty. That's a good counterpoint.

• 32:10Speaker 02

  That's a great counterpoint.

• 32:11Speaker 00

  Yeah. Joe Milton on the Browns would be good.

• 32:13Speaker 02

  It'd be very fun.

• 32:14Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 32:14Speaker 02

  I can't believe he cleared waiver. I think he cleared waivers. I didn't see anybody put in a claim for him this morning, but it's a, give Joe Milton a home, guys. Come on.

• 32:22Speaker 03

  Also, I don't know if you had this one, PFT. I don't want to burn you, but Tupac.

• 32:25Speaker 02

  I did not have that.

• 32:26Speaker 00

  Yeah, what happened?

• 32:27Speaker 03

  Uh, he, his murderer was finally convicted. Story's pretty funny. Uh.

• 32:33Speaker 02

  It sounds hilarious.

• 32:33Speaker 00

  Most murder stories are funny.

• 32:35Speaker 02

  Can't wait to hear this rib tickler.

• 32:37Speaker 03

  Well, it's just classic 2026 or this, you know, 2020s. He,

• 32:44Speaker 03

  I guess he did a police, like some type of like Queens agreement, they called it, where he like kind of admitted this, like they, they said, like, if you talk about this, like, you can't get convicted.

• 32:52Speaker 02

  Queen for a day.

• 32:53Speaker 03

  Queen for a day.

• 32:54Speaker 02

  Where they bring somebody in and they say, no matter what you say, we're not going to use that to charge you with any crime if you tell us the truth about things that are going on.

• 33:02Speaker 03

  So that happened. He admitted it. Obviously Queen for a day, however that works, he didn't get, he didn't get charged or arrested. Then, a few years ago, he wrote a book, essentially saying it, he kind of pinned it on someone else, and then he did a bunch of podcasts promoting the book. And so the lawyers were able to use all of the podcasts as evidence to convict him for murder.

• 33:24Speaker 02

  I'd like to say, if, uh, if any lawyers or, uh, jury members are listening to this podcast, nothing we say can be held against you in court of law.

• 33:34Speaker 00

  We're, we're all queens on this podcast.

• 33:36Speaker 02

  Yeah. Queen for a lifetime on this show.

• 33:38Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm. Okay. Good hot seat, cool throne, Hank. Way to, way to deliver.

• 33:42Speaker 02

  Good job, Hank.

• 33:42Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 33:43Speaker 03

  Always.

• 33:44Speaker 02

  Um, my hot-

• 33:45Speaker 03

  Not after Frank Aliando.

• 33:47Speaker 02

  Yeah, I can't do that.

• 33:47Speaker 00

  Can't fall for it.

• 33:49Speaker 02

  Uh, my hot seat is chicks.

• 33:51Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 33:52Speaker 02

  Chicks on the hot seat. Um, our good friend Kirk Herbstreet went on a podcast, Busting with the Boys. And, uh, he was telling a story about him and his wife and how they conceived. And, um, they, I guess he wanted sons every time.

• 34:09Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 34:09Speaker 02

  And he read something online that said that male sperm swim faster. I don't know if that's how it works. But, uh, his wife was a gymnast. He said, when we got done with the deed, uh, she would do a handstand. She would go up on the bed and do a handstand to try to get boys. And now they're four for four on having boys. So, um, number one, this is a weird thing to, to share on a podcast, I guess.

• 34:35Speaker 00

  I would say very weird and I like Kirk Herbstreet. He's a friend of our program. I, I don't really need to see how the visual of Kirk Herbstreet like finishing and then his wife immediately going into a handstand.

• 34:47Speaker 02

  Yeah. She like puts the chalk on her hands.

• 34:50Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 34:50Speaker 02

  Gets upside down and just balances for a while. I, also like they, I guess really both wanted boys.

• 34:57Speaker 00

  Yeah. Girls are, I have a daughter. It's pretty fucking awesome.

• 35:00Speaker 02

  Yeah. I just, I now I'm imagining Kirk Herbstreet like-

• 35:04Speaker 03

  Well, you gotta try it out the other way.

• 35:07Speaker 02

  What do you mean?

• 35:07Speaker 03

  See if you can hit a, hit on a girl.

• 35:09Speaker 00

  Like do a squat or something?

• 35:11Speaker 02

  Just stand up straight.

• 35:12Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 35:13Speaker 02

  Walk around afterwards. I always thought that the position that you had sex in determined the gender of the child. And doggy style, that's twins.

• 35:20Speaker 00

  I also like, I, I know this is gonna sound stupid, but, uh, Kirk Herbstreet, like you're, you announce all these games, like I, I view you in a, uh, rarefied air. Like you, you're in my, my, my living room multiple times a week. Like I don't need this.

• 35:36Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm.

• 35:36Speaker 00

  You know, I don't, I don't want my announcers fucking.

• 35:38Speaker 02

  You're above us.

• 35:39Speaker 00

  Yeah, you are. You are above us.

• 35:40Speaker 02

  You're, you're pristine.

• 35:42Speaker 00

  Right.

• 35:42Speaker 02

  You, yeah, you exist on a, a level like you don't, you don't poop.

• 35:46Speaker 00

  Right.

• 35:46Speaker 02

  You don't fart. You don't, maybe sometimes you pee if it's like a long marathon game. Uh, but yeah, our announcers, I, I agree with you. I don't like to picture them having sex.

• 35:55Speaker 00

  No. I like to picture them just walking the field with their dog.

• 35:58Speaker 02

  Well, yeah, now I'm thinking, like I'm imagining Kurt like shaking his dog upside down so he can get, get another peter in a few years.

• 36:05Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 36:07Speaker 02

  Anyways, that's kind of weird, Kurt.

• 36:08Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 36:09Speaker 02

  On Busting with the Boys.

• 36:10Speaker 00

  Agreed.

• 36:10Speaker 02

  And then my cool throne is being hockey tough in baseball.

• 36:14Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 36:14Speaker 02

  This is kind of a cool story, uh, that happened. So the Nationals have a, uh, a new closer that they brought up. And, uh, his name's Eric Tolman. And the story of him is, is pretty nuts. So he just got called up, got his first save the other night in Major League Baseball. So he was a junior at Arizona State and he tore his ACL. Or sorry, his UCL. I'm sorry. He got Tommy John surgery in 2021. 14 months later, his elbow pops again. He has Tommy John surgery in 2022. So then he rehabs a second time, gets back on the mound. He's pitching in Single A Fredericksburg and he's a, he's a superstitious guy.

• 36:55Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 36:55Speaker 02

  Like a lot of pitchers tend to be. He tries to hop over the foul line when he's jogging off the mound and his cleat gets caught in the turf. He had a torn ACL, a torn PCL, a torn LCL. The hamstring and the calf tore off the bone, dislocated his leg. The peroneal nerve in his foot got ruptured. Uh, so his, his foot got paralyzed. And, uh, it was lucky that it happened to his, uh, I think it, it happened to his right leg, not his left. And if vice versa had happened, he wouldn't be able to pitch anymore.

• 37:29Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 37:29Speaker 02

  But basically it was the most catastrophic injury that you've ever heard of in your life because he tried to jump over the foul line.

• 37:35Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 37:36Speaker 02

  And then after that, he had to learn how to walk again because his foot was pretty much paralyzed. He had to, uh, pitch with a brace. And then finally he got back to, uh, to the majors on August 22nd, had a scoreless inning. And then, uh, a couple of days later, um, they put him in bases loaded situation in the eighth inning, uh, and then got out of the inning, no runs, and then came back in the ninth and got a save.

• 38:00Speaker 00

  Nice.

• 38:00Speaker 02

  Pretty cool story.

• 38:01Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 38:01Speaker 02

  But like also a bizarre injury to have to battle back from.

• 38:05Speaker 00

  Very bizarre.

• 38:06Speaker 02

  Um, so that's, that's pretty cool. And then my other cool throne is, uh, just I guess optical illusions. Because did you hear about the, the island that has been spotted?

• 38:15Speaker 00

  I saw, I saw, I scrolled past it.

• 38:18Speaker 02

  Okay. There is a, um, there's an island that might not exist, but it also might exist.

• 38:23Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 38:23Speaker 02

  At the same time. It's in Canada. It's in like British Columbia. It's about a hundred kilometers from this place called the Bennett Dam. And on July 21st, they had a clear image of it on satellite. It was about the, the size of two NFL football fields. I like how they put it in, in those terms for us.

• 38:41Speaker 00

  Yeah. Wait, CFL though?

• 38:43Speaker 02

  No, it's actually, the headline I saw said it's about the size of one Canadian football field or two NFL football fields.

• 38:51Speaker 00

  Got it.

• 38:51Speaker 02

  Um, which is very helpful for us morons that don't understand math, uh, without a football analogy. So they had a picture of it on July 21st on a satellite image. And then on August 5th, it disappeared from satellite images. And it's got trees and shit on it. It looks like-

• 39:08Speaker 00

  Fully grown trees?

• 39:08Speaker 02

  Yes. It looks like a full ass island. It like with, with plants that took root in it. So they're trying to figure out what happened and how it, how it just disappeared.

• 39:18Speaker 00

  What?

• 39:19Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 39:20Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 39:21Speaker 02

  So this is a real story. It's like, it's documented and it's crazy.

• 39:25Speaker 00

  So do they have an after picture of it disappearing?

• 39:27Speaker 02

  I, I guess the after picture would just be-

• 39:29Speaker 00

  Water?

• 39:30Speaker 02

  Empty water.

• 39:30Speaker 00

  Did they just lose it? Did they lose where it is?

• 39:33Speaker 02

  They might've just forgotten.

• 39:34Speaker 00

  Yeah, where exactly it is.

• 39:35Speaker 02

  Like, so here, here's a satellite. So you can see it out there.

• 39:38Speaker 00

  Oh shit. That's crazy.

• 39:40Speaker 02

  And then it's gone. And I don't know what the explanation for this is.

• 39:44Speaker 00

  The island was actually a massive floating raft of vegetation and driftwood that detached from the shoreline due to high water levels. It did not sink, but likely drifted into a sheltered area along the reservoir's edge.

• 39:57Speaker 02

  So this is a piece of land that broke off.

• 40:00Speaker 00

  It drifted.

• 40:01Speaker 02

  And then floated. And then after floating for a while, it got broken up by waves?

• 40:06Speaker 00

  Or it floated back to somewhere close to shore?

• 40:09Speaker 02

  Isn't this how people think that like humans got to, uh, America to begin with?

• 40:14Speaker 00

  I thought that was Pangaea.

• 40:15Speaker 02

  Like, uh, like there were a bunch of like apes on a, an island and then that island floated across the, the world and then-

• 40:23Speaker 00

  I thought it was Russia frozen over. We used to be connected.

• 40:26Speaker 02

  There was a land bridge there too. Yeah. I don't know. That's kind of crazy if that's true, that an island that size could break off.

• 40:32Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 40:32Speaker 02

  And then disappeared.

• 40:33Speaker 00

  That is nuts. Okay. Someone needs to, to, to get to the bottom of this.

• 40:38Speaker 02

  Like did that, I, I would, I would drive myself insane if I saw that island and then I went back and I was like, the island's gone.

• 40:43Speaker 00

  Yeah. Where the fuck did it go?

• 40:44Speaker 02

  Everything kind of reminds me of the, uh, the Commander's 2025 season.

• 40:48Speaker 00

  Hmm.

• 40:48Speaker 02

  Be like, I swear to God, there was a beautiful island here.

• 40:51Speaker 00

  And now it's gone.

• 40:52Speaker 02

  Not too long ago.

• 40:53Speaker 00

  Now it's gone. Okay. My, uh, hot seat, I got a couple, uh, is PFT.

• 40:57Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 40:58Speaker 00

  Because, uh, Barstool signed an op.

• 41:01Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 41:02Speaker 00

  Barstool signed an op to PFT, a direct op to PFT.

• 41:05Speaker 03

  I don't, this is PFT. I don't understand. I heard him, I was sitting in the studio and the door was open and I heard PFT crying to memes for no less than 25 minutes.

• 41:15Speaker 02

  Did not cry.

• 41:16Speaker 00

  So, all right. So back up, back up. We have, we have a, a new social guy, uh, who is-

• 41:22Speaker 02

  One of, one of many.

• 41:23Speaker 00

  One of many who got hired.

• 41:25Speaker 02

  For the main account.

• 41:25Speaker 00

  His, for the main account and his, uh, previous handle, which I guess he'll keep running. Cause a lot of guys, when we sign social guys like memes, for example, he had Pardon My Memes. Uh, Liam Blutman had No Context College Football.

• 41:38Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 41:38Speaker 00

  These guys who proved that they can do something, uh, on a social media, on, on a social media app. And then we hire them. They get to keep the one that they had, but they're now working for us. This guy happens to be, uh, the account Drake May Lover.

• 41:54Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 41:54Speaker 00

  And, uh, he's perfect, by the way, because I, I had a brief conversation with him. I said, I walked up to him. I was like, are you a freak? And he was like, yeah. And I was like, did you go to college? He's like, for one class. I was like, you're perfect.

• 42:05Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 42:05Speaker 00

  That's exactly what we want our social media guy to be. But yeah, he is a direct op to you, PFT, because

• 42:11Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 42:11Speaker 00

  you guys are gonna be at a war, I mean.

• 42:13Speaker 02

  Feels targeted. How is he a direct op to you?

• 42:16Speaker 00

  Well, PFT was a, was, was a Drake May hater propaganda machine.

• 42:19Speaker 02

  I was not. I was rooting for Drake.

• 42:21Speaker 00

  You actually were probably more Drake May facts.

• 42:23Speaker 02

  Yeah, Drake, I was Drake May facts. I was, facts don't care about your lovers. Uh, I met the kid earlier. Seems like a very nice guy. I'm sure we'll get along fine. It does feel slightly targeted. I, I am glad that Barstool Sports finally gets a little bit of Boston and Patriots representation. I don't think that we've put out enough propaganda. So I think it does fill a hole. I understand why that hire was made. Kid's obviously very good at his job. He's, it's a funny account. I've seen it, um, all over the place for the last couple of seasons and he is a talented social media guy. No doubt about that.

• 42:54Speaker 00

  This is, this-

• 42:55Speaker 02

  It does feel like I don't, I don't expect there to be, uh, a lot of fair and balanced, um, NFL takes coming out regarding certain teams and certain players that might be seen as rivals of, uh, Drake May or the New England Patriots.

• 43:11Speaker 03

  Do you understand where you work?

• 43:13Speaker 00

  Drake May Lover though is in-house. This is like when I found out Meek Phil runs the account PCA hater.

• 43:20Speaker 03

  It's, it's, does he really?

• 43:22Speaker 00

  I don't think so, but I, I think so.

• 43:26Speaker 03

  If you look at the history of, of the Barstool Sports main account.

• 43:29Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 43:30Speaker 03

  Gaz.

• 43:31Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 43:32Speaker 03

  Coley Mick.

• 43:33Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 43:34Speaker 03

  It's a Boston company.

• 43:34Speaker 00

  But this is Drake May Lover.

• 43:36Speaker 02

  Yeah, this is.

• 43:36Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 43:38Speaker 00

  You're going hardcore when you're.

• 43:40Speaker 03

  The Patriots, none of us.

• 43:41Speaker 00

  Your pronouns is Drake May Lover.

• 43:42Speaker 03

  Barstool Sports wouldn't exist if it wasn't for the Patriots. We should all appreciate them.

• 43:46Speaker 02

  Drake May Stan.

• 43:47Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 43:48Speaker 02

  It's Drake May Lover.

• 43:49Speaker 00

  Yeah, not like Drake May Goat. It's Drake May Lover.

• 43:52Speaker 03

  I did reach out to the Barstool Sports head of social for comment.

• 43:55Speaker 00

  This would be Gaz?

• 43:56Speaker 03

  And he said, he has no one to blame but himself. Fuck around, find out.

• 44:00Speaker 00

  Oh, this is about PFT?

• 44:02Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 44:02Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 44:03Speaker 02

  Okay, so, so.

• 44:04Speaker 00

  So this was a direct shot.

• 44:05Speaker 02

  We're at war now.

• 44:06Speaker 00

  Yeah, this is, this was a, a direct shot against you. For your actions in the previous season.

• 44:11Speaker 02

  So we're at war?

• 44:12Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 44:12Speaker 02

  This is, this is war.

• 44:13Speaker 00

  Gaz, Gaz was like, oh, PFT's spouting off. I know what we'll do. Counter move.

• 44:18Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 44:18Speaker 00

  Drake May Lover.

• 44:19Speaker 02

  Well, Gaz has, he's got two moves. One is hire a hot chick and then the other is hire Patriots propaganda. And so it's a A button or the B button.

• 44:27Speaker 03

  This far.

• 44:28Speaker 02

  It has. No, listen, they're good, they're good moves. Don't get me wrong, but.

• 44:31Speaker 00

  He's got, he's that meme where he's sweating with the two buttons?

• 44:36Speaker 02

  I mean, if he could ever find one, that would be both.

• 44:38Speaker 00

  Oh my God, lights out.

• 44:39Speaker 02

  Forget about it. She'd end up taking over the entire company one day. Uh, but yeah, I, listen, I, I love Gaz, uh, but we're at war. This is declaration of war.

• 44:47Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 44:47Speaker 02

  Open, open hostilities right now.

• 44:49Speaker 00

  I think you're not even.

• 44:49Speaker 02

  And me, and I know, I know another guy that has an army that could go after a guy like Balt Paul. I know, and, and maybe.

• 44:58Speaker 03

  Good luck.

• 44:59Speaker 02

  What?

• 44:59Speaker 03

  Just good luck.

• 45:00Speaker 02

  With what?

• 45:01Speaker 00

  That army.

• 45:02Speaker 03

  Yeah, enlisting that army.

• 45:04Speaker 02

  I'm just saying.

• 45:04Speaker 00

  I, I, listen, I, I know what army you're talking about. That army is, uh, they only serve one master. They don't really get it. They don't care about anything else.

• 45:12Speaker 02

  Oh, I'm not, I'm not pretending that they would serve me. I'm just saying now we have a common enemy.

• 45:16Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 45:17Speaker 02

  And so maybe, you know, the enemy of my enemy is my friend. And in, in times of war, you know, weird allies come together sometimes.

• 45:27Speaker 00

  You, you get in a battle with the riders side by side with you against Gaz, the minute you get wounded, they're like, oh, see you later, dude.

• 45:35Speaker 02

  I don't.

• 45:35Speaker 00

  We got other things to do.

• 45:36Speaker 02

  I think I, as long as I, listen, me and Rico aren't great terms now. I actually never think Rico and I have been closer.

• 45:43Speaker 00

  Uh, all right. My other hot seat is, uh,

• 45:48Speaker 00

  pitchers, uh, pitching against the Cubs because the Cubs just keep hitting home runs. They have the most home runs in, in Major League Baseball. They hit, I think it was nine, was it nine the other night on Monday night? It was insane. It was just a yabo fest. We also have, uh, Alex Bregman and Pete Kromstrom both had, uh, they have 17 home runs and 16 home runs since July 11th respectively. They both had over 12 home runs in the month of August. Uh, so the Cubs just keep mashing. And then my cool throne is, uh, players batting against the Cubs. Because the Cubs, while they, uh, got the most home runs in MLB, they also, uh, last night or two nights ago tied the A's for giving up the most home runs.

• 46:28Speaker 03

  Wow.

• 46:29Speaker 00

  Yeah. That's been quite a, quite a, quite an experience. So yeah, and they, uh, tied the A's. The A's play in a bandbox, which is like, I think high altitudes, you know, humid, uh, in Sacramento. So yeah, the, it's, if you want, if you want to know, if you want to explain exactly what the Cubs season has been, uh, and the ups and downs, they have given up the most home runs and they have hit the most home runs. And they have, uh, the leader, the presumptive favorite in NLMVP, and they're still seven games behind the Brewers. That's pretty much sums it all up.

• 47:01Speaker 02

  Yeah, that is crazy.

• 47:02Speaker 00

  It's just up, down, up, down, up, down.

• 47:04Speaker 02

  The fact that the Brewers just, just keep dominating is also pretty wild.

• 47:07Speaker 00

  What'd you guys think? And obviously this could all be irrelevant because Tuesday night, uh, we're taping this on Tuesday and they play again Tuesday night. But what did you guys think? There was some discourse going on. Uh, Pat Murphy, the Brewers, uh, manager put in a position pitcher in the seventh inning last night on Monday night.

• 47:23Speaker 02

  And how, how much, what was the, what was the run difference?

• 47:26Speaker 00

  Uh, I think it was like, I think it was nine at the time, which the wind was blowing out and it's like, you never know what could happen. Hold on, I'm gonna look up exact score, but it, it did feel a little early. I, I think they should, I actually was thinking too, because people were complaining about it and I get it. Like you just, you're, you're in a four game series against your rival. You gotta, you gotta try to save bullpen arms. At the time that he came in, it was nine to three. So actually not, I mean, that's, that's six runs.

• 47:58Speaker 02

  Yeah, you know, um,

• 48:01Speaker 02

  it's not the most competitive thing to do, but I understand it. I get it.

• 48:05Speaker 03

  It's a power move.

• 48:06Speaker 02

  And I think it's kind of a smart move. If a four game series, and this is, you know, the next team up in the division, you just need to, you need to hold on until the end of, uh, September.

• 48:15Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 48:15Speaker 02

  So I get it. It's not, yeah.

• 48:17Speaker 00

  Andrew Vaughn came in, he gave up nine hits, two runs, uh, pitched, or two innings pitched, nine hits, seven earned runs.

• 48:24Speaker 02

  It's enough red meat to like all the old school, like baseball guys that would be like, this is some bullshit. We never would have done this when I played. But at the end of the day, I do think it's probably the smart move. Yeah.

• 48:33Speaker 00

  Dumb rule, I think that a team, the minute you throw in a position player, I think a team should use, uh, a posit, like, why, why couldn't the Cubs in that situation, you auctioned it off preseason to a random fan who gets to then play the outfield? Like when it's 17, when it's 17 to three in the top of the ninth.

• 48:55Speaker 02

  Emergency goalie in, in hockey.

• 48:57Speaker 00

  But think about how much like a rich guy would pay to be like, hey, you're gonna get to come in.

• 49:01Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 49:02Speaker 00

  During, you're gonna have to play an inning at Wrigley Field with a full crowd in a win. You get to celebrate after, go in the clubhouse. Someone would pay millions of dollars, then you use that for next year's, uh, salary.

• 49:13Speaker 02

  That's not a bad idea. Or if you are a manager and you're, if you want to put a, a position player in, in the seventh inning or earlier, you can do it. They just have to wear a little clown nose.

• 49:23Speaker 00

  I like that.

• 49:23Speaker 02

  While they pitch.

• 49:24Speaker 00

  I like that.

• 49:24Speaker 02

  Like if they have a clown nose.

• 49:26Speaker 00

  Maybe pitch on a tricycle?

• 49:27Speaker 02

  Yeah, some big shoes. And well, instead of bullpen cart, they have to go out on a tricycle.

• 49:31Speaker 00

  Make it Savannah ball.

• 49:32Speaker 02

  Yeah, make, they just have to admit that this is, you've turned it into a clown show. So you embrace it. If you're comfortable being, uh, being a laughing stock for that game, that's fine. But yeah, ultimately I think it's probably the smart move, but it does suck.

• 49:44Speaker 00

  Yeah, I know. I, I, I can't get like super upset about it. Uh, there were some people who were like, this is an absolute joke. It's like, I mean, I don't know. Every team, every team does it in the course of a season. It's a long fucking season. Seventh inning though is early.

• 49:57Speaker 02

  It's very early.

• 49:58Speaker 00

  That's a lot. I mean, obviously it was the, the Cubs were at home, so it was only two innings, but seventh inning feels very early. Uh, all right. My other cool throne is Zach. Cause.

• 50:07Speaker 02

  Oh boy.

• 50:08Speaker 00

  I think he's going on a date with Rudy from Bad Friends.

• 50:11Speaker 02

  Yeah, she seemed into it.

• 50:12Speaker 00

  She seemed into it.

• 50:13Speaker 02

  You know what she said? She said, he's got great eyes.

• 50:15Speaker 00

  Yeah. So for people who missed it, uh, our good friend Andrew Santino, he was flying back with us from the internet invitational and, uh, Zach was sitting across from him. Zach is a big Bad Friends fan. Zach got out of the car and was coming back with Max and Zach told Max, I was, the whole time I was wanting to ask if Rudy, uh, one of the, a person, a female on the Bad Friends podcast is single. Zach didn't ask. Unfortunately, Max then told me and I made, I brought it up on the show because I was like, hey, let's, let's get this couple together. We talked about it on our show, Bad Friends then talked about on their show. I think Zach, you're in.

• 50:54Speaker 03

  Uh, that is true. We did talk here. They talked there. Uh, some things were said. I think it's, uh, yeah, I think there's opportunity for a date there.

• 51:01Speaker 00

  She seemed into it.

• 51:03Speaker 02

  Yeah, she said, she said she was in maybe, maybe to do a date. Uh, one thing you guys have in common, she said she's not much of a, a cold weather city person.

• 51:10Speaker 03

  I'm also kind of out on the cold.

• 51:11Speaker 02

  Yeah. So you and her, it just, you know, you know how to stay warm in the winter time.

• 51:15Speaker 03

  We just migrate, right?

• 51:16Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 51:16Speaker 00

  Well, play the end of the clip where she's agreeing to a date. I think she kind of agreed.

• 51:20Speaker 03

  Yeah, I'm, yeah, there's no way to know. It's, uh, it's up in the air right now. You never know.

• 51:23Speaker 00

  She, she was kind of put on this, it was actually perfect because she was put on the spot, almost identical to when Zach was put on the spot.

• 51:30Speaker 03

  Nobody deserves that kind of heat. I felt terrible before.

• 51:31Speaker 00

  But hey, this is like Bob Knight, common enemy. You can go on a date with Rudy and you could be like, hey, big cap, PFT, Bobby, Andrew, aren't those guys such assholes for making us do this? Oh, I love you. I love you. I love you.

• 51:44Speaker 03

  It's like common ground.

• 51:45Speaker 00

  Yeah, right. You have something, the, the first conversation will be so easy being like, those guys are real dickheads.

• 51:51Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm. I can't believe we're doing.

• 51:52Speaker 03

  What an icebreaker.

• 51:53Speaker 00

  Yeah. All right. Play, play the end of it. She's, she.

• 51:57Speaker 01

  That's what it feels like. He's a really nice kid. I met him.

• 51:58Speaker 03

  So Uncrustables, you like them? I don't even know that. There's an Uncrustable in the house.

• 52:02Speaker 01

  She ate them on the Burt Pod when those guys came on the show.

• 52:05Speaker 03

  That's right. That's right.

• 52:06Speaker 01

  She ate like six on camera.

• 52:07Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 52:08Speaker 01

  So here's Zach right there. Um, would you go on a date with Zach perhaps, Rudy?

• 52:15Speaker 01

  He's, I like his eyes.

• 52:17Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 52:18Speaker 01

  That's a good start.

• 52:19Speaker 03

  Caribbean blue is what I call it.

• 52:20Speaker 01

  Are you interested in maybe going on a date with this man? If we set this up, the guy on the left, he's got a big, big crush on you. He was too shy to say it to me when I met him, but now we know the truth. Maybe. What does he do? He's a producer for that show, for Pardon My Take. He's a, he's a producer and he's very good at his job. Unlike the producers that we have on this show. I like the ham and cheese idea. You like the ham and cheese Uncrustable idea? Yeah. So this is something we can move forward on. Perhaps if we can get a merging of maybe.

• 52:43Speaker 03

  Where does he live, this guy?

• 52:44Speaker 01

  Chicago. It's not gonna work. I think it is. She doesn't like winter. We'll travel for love is what Zach said. Okay. So that's him on the right. Cool guy. Cool guy. Dresses well, good style, smart, sweet, funny. Yeah. Very funny. Funny guy. So what do we think? Rudy, can we maybe do a date? Yeah, maybe. We love Zach very much. He's the man and maybe we'll set up a little date for you guys. Cause you might like him. His style is cool. So is that a yes? Yeah.

• 53:07Speaker 00

  Oh. That's a yes.

• 53:10Speaker 01

  We spoke with our friends.

• 53:11Speaker 00

  Alright, so we're good. We're good.

• 53:13Speaker 01

  That was a yes. Yeah, maybe a yes. Uh, I, I do want to say, uh, kind words from Andrew there. Great gas from Andrew. I really appreciate that.

• 53:18Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah. Zach, um, you, so you used to have an Uncrustables puncher, right?

• 53:23Speaker 00

  Yeah, he called you a great producer.

• 53:25Speaker 02

  Great producer.

• 53:26Speaker 01

  We'll take that gas. What, what kind guy?

• 53:27Speaker 02

  Yeah. Um, so you used to have an Uncrustable puncher thing, right?

• 53:32Speaker 01

  It's kind of like spring loaded. So think of like a stamp almost, like you know, the stamps that flip. You just kind of cha-ching and then it punches it out. Sometimes you gotta give it a second punch, but works pretty good.

• 53:40Speaker 02

  I do think that would be a good, like a fun first date somewhere.

• 53:43Speaker 00

  Just make Uncrustables together?

• 53:44Speaker 02

  Yeah, you go to kitchen, maybe, maybe go to the kitchen here. And you can, you know, if you want to, you can record something, but do like, uh, make your own new types of Uncrustables contests.

• 53:54Speaker 01

  Kind of wild with the Uncrust?

• 53:55Speaker 02

  So what do you like?

• 53:56Speaker 01

  I don't hate that move.

• 53:57Speaker 02

  Hear me out. What about like a McGriddle Uncrustable?

• 54:00Speaker 01

  Oh, like a hot sandwich?

• 54:01Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 54:02Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 54:02Speaker 00

  What's the next step here? So we will be in LA for the Super Bowl, but I feel like that's too far from now. Do you want us to fly you out to LA? Do you want me to see if Santino has any plans to come to Chicago?

• 54:14Speaker 01

  Zach wants to crawl out of his skin and die.

• 54:16Speaker 00

  Oh, okay.

• 54:17Speaker 01

  No, I didn't say.

• 54:18Speaker 00

  Well, after you do that, after you, after you metamorph- morph.

• 54:22Speaker 01

  Metamorphosis, yup.

• 54:23Speaker 00

  Yeah. Uh, as a snake, what would you like to do?

• 54:26Speaker 01

  Uh, yeah, I, I think Super Bowl comes up pretty quick or maybe like maybe before Super Bowl, if she's open to that. Uh, yeah, it's a moving target right now, you know?

• 54:33Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 54:34Speaker 01

  I gotta pin that down.

• 54:35Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 54:35Speaker 01

  It's on me.

• 54:36Speaker 02

  Let's try to pin it down.

• 54:36Speaker 01

  I'm not the best at calendars. I'll, I'll show you guys straight, but.

• 54:40Speaker 02

  Wait, I just asked you to print up a calendar for me like an hour ago.

• 54:43Speaker 01

  I can make two calendars.

• 54:44Speaker 02

  You're not a big calendar guy?

• 54:45Speaker 01

  I'm not good. I can definitely produce two calendars for you, PFT.

• 54:48Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 54:48Speaker 02

  Can you produce? Uh, if you kids want it, you know, Wizards tickets, uh, courtside. Might be a great first date.

• 54:54Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 54:56Speaker 02

  Send you guys to the nation's capital.

• 54:58Speaker 00

  Incredible.

• 54:58Speaker 02

  Feet on the wood, right behind Trey Young and Anthony Davis.

• 55:02Speaker 01

  Everybody does love the capital.

• 55:03Speaker 00

  I think it's either that or maybe, maybe a Sunday in the gambling cave. She seems like she would love that.

• 55:09Speaker 01

  Maybe we go, maybe we go somewhere else before the gambling cave.

• 55:12Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 55:12Speaker 01

  Uh, yeah, but that was a, maybe a date, maybe a date.

• 55:15Speaker 00

  I think it's a date. I think we just gotta figure out when, if there's a potential for the Bad Friends show to be here in Chicago at any point. And if not, we'll just get you a plane ticket to LA.

• 55:26Speaker 01

  Okay, we'll, we'll see how it goes.

• 55:27Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 55:27Speaker 01

  If, if there's a date, uh, looking forward to it. Yeah.

• 55:30Speaker 00

  Great. Uh, are your hot seat cool thrown Zach?

• 55:34Speaker 01

  Uh, my hot seat week, my hot, sorry. My hot seat this week is, uh, maybe Terry Scooball.

• 55:38Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 55:39Speaker 01

  Terry Scooball, they go back to Detroit, but what do you guys think about taking the?

• 55:43Speaker 00

  Espresso machine?

• 55:44Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 55:44Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 55:45Speaker 01

  What do we think?

• 55:45Speaker 02

  I have, uh, I've got a couple of thoughts.

• 55:47Speaker 01

  He took an espresso machine?

• 55:48Speaker 00

  So Scooball bought an espresso machine for the clubhouse, got traded, took the espresso machine.

• 55:55Speaker 01

  That's tough.

• 55:56Speaker 02

  Yeah, it is. It is. Um,

• 56:00Speaker 02

  if, I don't want to say bad guy move. My thought was maybe it was a gift. That's the only way I could see this being okay.

• 56:07Speaker 00

  He's so rich.

• 56:08Speaker 02

  If somebody gets you it as a gift and you bring it in and then you're leaving and you're like, I, I don't want to leave that behind because it was a gift from somebody. That maybe might be a good, but otherwise, I mean, you've got to.

• 56:21Speaker 01

  He did say he bought it.

• 56:22Speaker 00

  He said his wife made him take it back.

• 56:25Speaker 01

  You got it.

• 56:26Speaker 00

  And he said, I'll, I, I, he said, I'll wear it. I'll wear the fact that this was a, a bad, bad guy move.

• 56:33Speaker 02

  They got.

• 56:33Speaker 00

  So he's, he's standing up to it.

• 56:34Speaker 02

  They got coffee in Los Angeles. You can buy a coffee maker there.

• 56:38Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 56:39Speaker 01

  He could afford another one.

• 56:40Speaker 00

  But also the Tigers can too.

• 56:44Speaker 02

  Did he like, did he send somebody in to like repossess it? Or did he go? Cause the only way it would be okay is if he went in there, grabbed it off the shelf and then walked out the front door with his coffee machine.

• 56:56Speaker 01

  Yeah, I think there's plausible deniability if someone else just grabbed it when scooping up his stuff.

• 57:01Speaker 00

  He, Scooball said, I wanted to leave it and get a new one, but she wanted, she, she wouldn't let me. My wife wanted me to take it. Um, good fall guy move by, by Scooball's wife. That's a really good fall guy move. Um, yeah, I think you gotta buy, I think you can take it and then just buy, maybe not the same espresso machine, but, uh, uh, espresso machine. You know what I mean?

• 57:22Speaker 02

  Hmm. Or, or maybe the same one.

• 57:24Speaker 00

  Yeah, or maybe the same one.

• 57:25Speaker 02

  They probably made two of them.

• 57:27Speaker 00

  Yeah. You never know.

• 57:29Speaker 02

  That's, yeah, it's, it's a weird move.

• 57:31Speaker 00

  It's also kind of a funny move to be like, see you guys.

• 57:33Speaker 02

  He must have.

• 57:34Speaker 00

  Walking up with his espresso machine under his arm.

• 57:36Speaker 02

  He must have really liked that coffee that it made.

• 57:38Speaker 00

  Yeah. Okay. And then your cool throne?

• 57:42Speaker 01

  Uh, my cool throne this week is going to be most nations, uh, because who, a lot of guys believe is maybe the best soccer player of all time, has decided to retire from international play.

• 57:51Speaker 00

  Uh, Lionel Messi has retired from international play. Uh, you, you specifically Zach are on the cool throne now, because you don't have to watch him just dominate in your face when Ronaldo scores a goal against Uzbekistan and says he's back.

• 58:06Speaker 01

  I would be included in most nations, yes.

• 58:08Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 58:08Speaker 01

  Us as Americans are.

• 58:09Speaker 00

  I would say you're the, you're the most nation of this.

• 58:13Speaker 01

  Hey, look, Ronaldo might have one more in him.

• 58:15Speaker 00

  Yeah, I hope he does.

• 58:16Speaker 01

  Club coach is coming.

• 58:17Speaker 00

  I would love.

• 58:18Speaker 01

  See it fall apart though.

• 58:19Speaker 00

  I want to see him just try to, the, the, the, the World Cup's hosted in Portugal. I want to see him try to make it all about himself and, and fail spectacularly.

• 58:28Speaker 02

  He would never fall apart.

• 58:29Speaker 01

  He'll have four years to grow from this.

• 58:31Speaker 00

  No.

• 58:31Speaker 01

  Yeah. And he will grow.

• 58:33Speaker 02

  I don't know if he's going to grow anymore. He's, I think he's done, he's done growing. Um, but yeah, thank you. Thank you Lionel. What a great, what a great career it was.

• 58:43Speaker 01

  Yeah, two Copa Americas, one World Cup. Beautiful thing for the country.

• 58:46Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 58:46Speaker 01

  He wrote, uh, he went handwritten on the note on Instagram.

• 58:49Speaker 02

  Did he?

• 58:49Speaker 01

  Yeah, he said he, uh, he made the response.

• 58:51Speaker 02

  Did he also retire one, one time before from Argentina?

• 58:54Speaker 01

  I believe so.

• 58:54Speaker 02

  It was after the Copa America.

• 58:55Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 58:57Speaker 02

  So he might come back, like Jordan did it.

• 58:59Speaker 01

  I think he said this time it was more permanent. Uh, he wrote the letters two days after the World Cup final. And then I guess earlier in August, his dad did unfortunately pass away and he's like, that kind of cemented it for him. Like, hey, I'm, uh, my time here is done. So.

• 59:11Speaker 02

  I'm just saying, Jordan came back twice.

• 59:14Speaker 00

  Would be cool. He probably would be so sick.

• 59:17Speaker 01

  Unfortunately, he'd be so good still. Yeah.

• 59:18Speaker 00

  He would, of course he'd be so good.

• 59:19Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 59:20Speaker 00

  So good in this world.

• 59:21Speaker 02

  This is all part of my master plan when we hired Poach. He's Argentinian. Convince Messi to retire from Argentina. He already works in the United States. Just give him citizenship.

• 59:32Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 59:32Speaker 02

  And then have him play for the US in 2030.

• 59:35Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 59:35Speaker 01

  But he could never return home if that was the case. There's no way. I thought there'd be riots in the streets.

• 59:41Speaker 00

  No.

• 59:41Speaker 02

  No, he could return home. Argentina's pretty good at hiding people.

• 59:45Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 59:46Speaker 01

  If he threw on the red, white and blue?

• 59:47Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 59:47Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 59:48Speaker 02

  Yeah, they, he, he'd go off to a village somewhere and.

• 59:51Speaker 00

  Change his name.

• 59:52Speaker 02

  Age 95, swimming in a beautiful lake of a heart attack. Yeah.

• 59:55Speaker 01

  Bunch of your mate.

• 59:57Speaker 00

  Yeah. Uh, okay. Good, good hot seat, cool throne. Do you have, do you have anything else? That's good.

• 1:00:03Speaker 01

  Uh, also just, uh, the Cubs pitcher, Clay Holmes, just throwing cartoon pitches. Those were cool.

• 1:00:06Speaker 00

  Dude, Clay Holmes.

• 1:00:07Speaker 01

  That's a lot of movement on those pitches.

• 1:00:08Speaker 00

  Dude, it's crazy. The Cubs are in a spot where I, I think our starting rotation, if we get to the playoffs is going to be, uh, all guys we just traded for. So that speaks to the, the stat of giving up the most home runs. Uh, Clay Holmes has been awesome.

• 1:00:23Speaker 02

  Has, I wonder if that's ever happened.

• 1:00:24Speaker 00

  I, right now, I mean, I, I would go Javier Assad three, but you could very well make the case that it should be Clay Holmes, one, Gosman two, Peterson three, cause no one else can be trusted. The trust tree has gotten as small as possible when it comes to the Cubs pitching. Okay, let's do our Mount Rushmore. It is brought to you by our friends at Reese's. There's something for everyone when it comes to Reese's. We love Reese's. They're the one, one pick of candy. Uh, I actually had some Reese's sticks last night. They're so good. We have the Reese's lounge upstairs. I brought my kids in on Sunday to hang out in the office. They were like, can we go to the Reese's lounge? Like absolutely we can. They had a great time. They're the best candy of all time. The Reese's Peanut Butter Cups.

• 1:01:04Speaker 00

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• 1:01:27Speaker 00

  Zach is now one point behind Hank. If Zach can win this Mount Rushmore today, we will have a duel on Friday, a finale duel where we will do three Mount Rushmore spur of the moment off the to, off the dome. Boy, would that be awesome for the AWLs, right? PFT?

• 1:01:46Speaker 02

  It would be incredible. I think, I'm always thinking of, of the listeners first and foremost.

• 1:01:50Speaker 00

  Right, but the only way that could happen is if Zach wins this Mount Rushmore.

• 1:01:53Speaker 02

  That's true. Yes. That's the only way that we can get there. And, and duels are amazing. I had a great time dueling against Hank. It's been, um, it's always fun. I think the listeners really like him.

• 1:02:02Speaker 00

  Yeah. Wouldn't you agree Hank?

• 1:02:04Speaker 01

  I would.

• 1:02:04Speaker 00

  Yeah. So,

• 1:02:07Speaker 00

  how do, uh, were you surprised with the voting? Cause you kind of called, you, you kind of put up your finger and walked off on, um, Sunday night. You're like, I got this.

• 1:02:14Speaker 01

  I thought I had it. Yeah. I think death. I underestimated death.

• 1:02:17Speaker 00

  Death and Max.

• 1:02:20Speaker 01

  Who's that?

• 1:02:21Speaker 00

  Max.

• 1:02:22Speaker 01

  Homa?

• 1:02:22Speaker 00

  No. Max Stellente, our former producer.

• 1:02:26Speaker 02

  You underestimated how, how fat he was or how, excuse me, how heavy he was.

• 1:02:31Speaker 00

  You guys all agree, like the, the gifts that Max brings back have to blow us away for a two week vacation.

• 1:02:38Speaker 01

  He's not bringing back gifts.

• 1:02:39Speaker 00

  He is bringing back gifts and they, he actually needs to bring me an espresso machine. Because you can't go away for two weeks and come back with like, you know, Shane's little bobbleheads and shit. And like, oh, here, here's a, here's a fucking, here's a shot glass. No offense Shane. Sorry. I forgot you're sitting right there. I love my bobbleheads by the way.

• 1:02:59Speaker 01

  Yeah, bolt up.

• 1:03:00Speaker 00

  The right, oh shit, where are they?

• 1:03:02Speaker 02

  I think you smashed them.

• 1:03:03Speaker 00

  Oh no.

• 1:03:04Speaker 02

  I think you took.

• 1:03:05Speaker 00

  Oh, no, no, there's one of them. There's a.

• 1:03:06Speaker 01

  Did you throw them off the roof the other day?

• 1:03:08Speaker 00

  No.

• 1:03:08Speaker 01

  Where's my golf cart?

• 1:03:09Speaker 00

  Oh, this, did you get me this Shane?

• 1:03:11Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:03:11Speaker 00

  Yeah. All right. This, this is cool.

• 1:03:13Speaker 02

  Where's the Pope?

• 1:03:14Speaker 00

  I don't.

• 1:03:14Speaker 01

  Where's the golf? Oh, the golf cart's up there.

• 1:03:16Speaker 00

  Where? Where's the Pope? There's big Dom. Where's?

• 1:03:20Speaker 02

  Oh my God.

• 1:03:21Speaker 00

  Pope's head fell off.

• 1:03:22Speaker 02

  Yeah, the Pope.

• 1:03:23Speaker 00

  It didn't fall off. Yes, it did. No, no. I, I, I didn't like intentionally break it. I bumped into the back.

• 1:03:29Speaker 02

  He's a White Sox fan. A lot of people are talking about it. Cubs, White Sox.

• 1:03:32Speaker 00

  Wrong, wrong, wrong. Last Pope. It was the last Pope.

• 1:03:35Speaker 02

  Oh, the last Pope.

• 1:03:36Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

• 1:03:37Speaker 01

  It was the last Pope.

• 1:03:39Speaker 00

  Okay. Mount Rushmore of household items you could use as a weapon. Henry, you were up first.

• 1:03:45Speaker 01

  Uh, steak knife.

• 1:03:48Speaker 00

  Okay, that's a really good fucking pick. I didn't even think about, I didn't even think about that.

• 1:03:51Speaker 01

  Super sharp.

• 1:03:52Speaker 00

  I didn't even think about that.

• 1:03:53Speaker 01

  I double up here, correct? Yep. I would like to take a baseball bat.

• 1:03:58Speaker 00

  And I would also like to take a nail gun.

• 1:04:00Speaker 02

  Hmm, okay.

• 1:04:01Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:04:02Speaker 02

  Baseball bat is.

• 1:04:03Speaker 00

  Nail gun.

• 1:04:03Speaker 03

  Do you guys own nail guns?

• 1:04:05Speaker 00

  Ah, I do.

• 1:04:06Speaker 02

  I own.

• 1:04:06Speaker 00

  I do own a nail gun.

• 1:04:08Speaker 02

  Yeah, Big Cat owns one.

• 1:04:09Speaker 03

  Fucking right.

• 1:04:10Speaker 00

  I will buy a nail gun by the time this podcast comes out so that I could.

• 1:04:13Speaker 03

  You got a nail gun. Does anyone in the booth have a nail gun?

• 1:04:15Speaker 02

  Uh, yeah, memes does.

• 1:04:19Speaker 02

  Memes, remember when?

• 1:04:20Speaker 04

  I'm trying to think.

• 1:04:20Speaker 02

  I use your nail gun?

• 1:04:21Speaker 04

  Bat. I don't think I.

• 1:04:24Speaker 00

  No.

• 1:04:25Speaker 02

  You're wait, you're not sure if you have a nail gun or not memes?

• 1:04:28Speaker 04

  No.

• 1:04:29Speaker 03

  You don't?

• 1:04:29Speaker 02

  Yeah, then you don't.

• 1:04:31Speaker 04

  Snoop.

• 1:04:31Speaker 03

  Snoop, yeah, Snoop from the Wire.

• 1:04:33Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:04:33Speaker 04

  I don't think I have a nail gun.

• 1:04:34Speaker 02

  I got a staple gun.

• 1:04:35Speaker 04

  It's good. It is a good weapon, though, if you have one.

• 1:04:38Speaker 02

  It is.

• 1:04:40Speaker 02

  Also, baseball bat is just, that's a brutal one.

• 1:04:44Speaker 03

  Do you have a baseball bat in your house, Zach?

• 1:04:45Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:04:47Speaker 04

  Sock over it.

• 1:04:50Speaker 00

  Why? Cause you catch it, you get another swing.

• 1:04:53Speaker 02

  What?

• 1:04:53Speaker 00

  They catch it, you get another swing. Oh, that's so genius. You get double up. Holy fuck.

• 1:05:00Speaker 03

  That's actually brilliant.

• 1:05:01Speaker 00

  That's so brilliant. So you just have a long sock over your baseball bat at all times. Yeah, yeah, cause they grab it and then you just whoop. What about double sock?

• 1:05:12Speaker 03

  Well, that's when they say they break.

• 1:05:13Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's true. Yeah, that's true. That's where the cum comes out. Damn, Zach, that is so, so, okay. Nail gun and, and baseball bat. Those are pretty good weapons in your house.

• 1:05:26Speaker 03

  Uh, my next one, thinking like Tom and Jerry will go frying pan.

• 1:05:31Speaker 00

  Ah, good one. Good pick.

• 1:05:33Speaker 02

  Like cast iron?

• 1:05:34Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 1:05:34Speaker 02

  Pretty heavy.

• 1:05:35Speaker 00

  Yep. That's a really good pick.

• 1:05:37Speaker 02

  Brain somebody with that, yeah.

• 1:05:38Speaker 03

  And this one's more like, like fighting, like fighting with your brother, like fighting with your sibling. It's just a TV remote.

• 1:05:47Speaker 00

  Oh, okay. Just chucking at someone's face?

• 1:05:49Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:05:49Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's actually, yeah.

• 1:05:51Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's like annoying.

• 1:05:52Speaker 03

  Like, you've, I've gotten hit by a TV remote. I've thrown a TV remote, like it's a, it's a, or even if like accidentally, like you, like, hey, throw me the remote and it hits you in the face, like that hurts.

• 1:06:00Speaker 00

  Agreed.

• 1:06:01Speaker 02

  Hank, what would you say to people out there that would say that the TV remote in this draft would be like taking a single hornet?

• 1:06:09Speaker 03

  I would disagree.

• 1:06:10Speaker 02

  Like kind of annoying, but actually won't get the job done.

• 1:06:15Speaker 03

  I mean, it's at least a household item is what I would say.

• 1:06:18Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:06:19Speaker 02

  It is.

• 1:06:19Speaker 03

  I could have, I could have used, yeah, like a jackhammer.

• 1:06:21Speaker 00

  I use a nail gun and a TV remote about the same amount of times.

• 1:06:25Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:06:26Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:06:27Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:06:28Speaker 00

  I'm going to take clothesline.

• 1:06:31Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:06:31Speaker 02

  All right.

• 1:06:32Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 1:06:33Speaker 02

  Like the, uh, the thing in the backyard.

• 1:06:37Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:06:37Speaker 02

  That's a great pick.

• 1:06:38Speaker 00

  That's a great pick, Zach. I didn't think about it. Apartment, so we don't go outside, we just go inside, hang them to dry, but also if you need to, little quicko, you know? Yeah, or just run them pat, like, hey, oh, you're gonna chase me? I'm gonna run and duck under the clothesline. That's how Bryson DeChambeau almost lost his career. We've all seen Home Alone. Take him out.

• 1:06:54Speaker 02

  Yeah, hey, quick, run that way.

• 1:06:56Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:06:56Speaker 02

  And then next thing you know, that could, if you, if it's tight enough, take your head right off.

• 1:07:01Speaker 00

  Yeah. I bet you, you didn't think of that, Hank? You don't want the kids to wake up? You know, put them to sleep quiet.

• 1:07:06Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah, the stealth, yeah.

• 1:07:08Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:07:08Speaker 02

  Good point.

• 1:07:09Speaker 00

  Mr. and Mrs. Smith action. Wow, Hank, you're blowing this. That was a great pick.

• 1:07:13Speaker 02

  Listen, if you looked up, Zach, stop shaking your head. If you looked up, uh, how many deaths per year were caused by a clothesline as opposed to a remote, I think clothesline.

• 1:07:23Speaker 03

  Shane, why are you laughing in Zach's face?

• 1:07:25Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:07:25Speaker 03

  Why is he laughing, Zach?

• 1:07:27Speaker 04

  Shane looked at his phone and started laughing.

• 1:07:29Speaker 00

  Zach, do you think that PFCI hyping you up to this point might be having the unintended effect of people might be able to pick up on our sarcasm on clothesline was a good pick?

• 1:07:41Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 1:07:41Speaker 00

  Okay. All right. So we'll, we'll dial it down a little. Decent pick.

• 1:07:46Speaker 02

  I think you probably could have gotten it in the fourth.

• 1:07:48Speaker 00

  I, I gotta be more decisive on the list.

• 1:07:50Speaker 02

  Maybe a little bit of a reach.

• 1:07:51Speaker 03

  We got another one.

• 1:07:52Speaker 00

  All right. All right, I'm gonna take.

• 1:08:00Speaker 00

  I'm, all right, fine. I'm gonna take bleach. Okay.

• 1:08:03Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, poison.

• 1:08:04Speaker 00

  Yeah. No, that's good. Throw it at someone. You ever catch a bleach cup to the face? No, I don't, I, that actually is a good pick. That clothesline was dog shit. If you.

• 1:08:15Speaker 04

  Clothesline is a bad pick.

• 1:08:16Speaker 00

  If you threw bleach in someone, someone's eyes, you would fuck them up pretty bad.

• 1:08:21Speaker 02

  I just looked this up online. Um, on average, 11 people die per year on clotheslines.

• 1:08:29Speaker 00

  How many? Now look up a TV remote.

• 1:08:31Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:08:31Speaker 00

  Most of the clothesline deaths are keeping quiet.

• 1:08:33Speaker 02

  Uh huh, yeah.

• 1:08:34Speaker 00

  Uh huh.

• 1:08:34Speaker 02

  Because it's the, it's the silent killer.

• 1:08:37Speaker 00

  TV remote's gotta be lower than that.

• 1:08:43Speaker 04

  Bleach is a good one.

• 1:08:44Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:08:44Speaker 00

  Bleach is a good pick.

• 1:08:44Speaker 04

  I have a, a spray bottle.

• 1:08:46Speaker 00

  Yeah, what?

• 1:08:48Speaker 04

  A spray bleach, yeah.

• 1:08:49Speaker 00

  To, to fuck someone up?

• 1:08:51Speaker 04

  To fuck someone up.

• 1:08:52Speaker 00

  Like not to clean?

• 1:08:53Speaker 04

  No, and to clean.

• 1:08:54Speaker 00

  Oh, okay.

• 1:08:55Speaker 04

  You spray it in their eye, they're done.

• 1:08:57Speaker 00

  All right.

• 1:08:58Speaker 02

  Okay, uh, really, the only way that people die from remotes is if you eat the batteries out of them.

• 1:09:03Speaker 00

  So you would have to have someone come into your house.

• 1:09:05Speaker 02

  So batteries might be.

• 1:09:06Speaker 00

  And you have to convince them that the TV remote batteries are delicious and then you could hope to survive.

• 1:09:12Speaker 03

  But like, think about it, Big Cat. Someone breaks in your house, you're obviously lying on the couch. You might only have the, like, the TV remote's the most accessible thing.

• 1:09:20Speaker 00

  I'm lying on the couch, someone breaks into my house, boom, first thing that happens, they hit the clothesline.

• 1:09:26Speaker 00

  Bang. Next thing that happens, nail gun in the face.

• 1:09:29Speaker 02

  You actually tie it up, tie the clothesline up to a nail gun trigger.

• 1:09:33Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:09:33Speaker 02

  So it's like a booby trap.

• 1:09:34Speaker 00

  Oh, you tried to, oh, you got up after the nail gun and the clothesline, you ran at me? Oh, look, you just slipped on bleach. Zach literally is just Kevin McCallister in this.

• 1:09:46Speaker 00

  Dude, he held down the house. Held it down. Held it down. All right, last pick.

• 1:09:56Speaker 03

  I'll give Zach a chance. Zach's, Zach's done, right?

• 1:09:59Speaker 00

  Yeah, he's done with his picks.

• 1:10:00Speaker 03

  I could just take fork. That would obviously do the trick. You could kill someone with a fork, but I will take can of soup.

• 1:10:06Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 1:10:07Speaker 02

  Okay, yeah.

• 1:10:08Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:10:08Speaker 02

  Be heavy.

• 1:10:09Speaker 00

  Not a bad one. I was surprised. All right. So good Mount Rushmore. I was surprised. Hammer? Hammer feels like that would be a good pick.

• 1:10:17Speaker 02

  I, I was gonna say also, um, pot of hot coffee.

• 1:10:21Speaker 00

  Hmm, yep.

• 1:10:22Speaker 02

  Might be a good one.

• 1:10:23Speaker 00

  Yep. Uh, what about a chair? Throw a chair at someone?

• 1:10:26Speaker 02

  Hmm.

• 1:10:27Speaker 00

  Feels good. What, Zach, you got some honorable mentions?

• 1:10:29Speaker 03

  What do you think about car keys?

• 1:10:30Speaker 00

  Car keys, okay. That would be annoying.

• 1:10:32Speaker 02

  Maybe just, maybe just your car.

• 1:10:34Speaker 00

  Actually, car keys might be a genius one because like.

• 1:10:37Speaker 03

  Brass knuckles move?

• 1:10:38Speaker 00

  No, I was saying like you just throw your car keys and they're like, all right, I can just steal your car now.

• 1:10:41Speaker 03

  Oh, just take it.

• 1:10:44Speaker 00

  Thank you so much. I came for the car and you just handed it to me.

• 1:10:47Speaker 03

  What do you think about frozen food?

• 1:10:49Speaker 02

  What kind of frozen food?

• 1:10:50Speaker 03

  Anything solid out the freezer. You're just hitting with the, yeah.

• 1:10:53Speaker 02

  I would say, yeah, like maybe a tomahawk steak?

• 1:10:55Speaker 03

  If we got like pound of ground beef down there, it's been there probably six months, hard as a rock.

• 1:10:59Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:10:59Speaker 00

  Uh, Legos?

• 1:11:01Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:11:02Speaker 00

  Strewn about?

• 1:11:03Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:11:03Speaker 00

  That will fuck any, any person up pretty bad.

• 1:11:06Speaker 02

  Um.

• 1:11:06Speaker 00

  What, what about fireplace poker?

• 1:11:08Speaker 02

  That's what I was about to say, right?

• 1:11:09Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:11:10Speaker 02

  I just, I saw the staircase recently.

• 1:11:12Speaker 03

  I didn't have one, so I, I didn't take it, but that, that is probably the best one.

• 1:11:17Speaker 02

  It's a classic one. I would also say lamp.

• 1:11:19Speaker 03

  Crowbar. Lamp's a good one.

• 1:11:20Speaker 02

  Lamp, you just, yeah, hit somebody in the head with it. Uh, yeah, candle holder.

• 1:11:24Speaker 00

  It's not really a, uh.

• 1:11:25Speaker 03

  Plate.

• 1:11:26Speaker 04

  Spoon.

• 1:11:26Speaker 00

  Plate, spoon, uh.

• 1:11:28Speaker 02

  A spoon?

• 1:11:29Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:11:29Speaker 00

  What's the thing?

• 1:11:30Speaker 04

  Put in someone's eye.

• 1:11:31Speaker 02

  Yeah, good point, memes. I gotta remember me and memes are, we're also allies now. We've got an online war. We need to fight together, memes.

• 1:11:37Speaker 00

  The rolling pin?

• 1:11:38Speaker 03

  Yeah, we should get someone biased against the patriots to run our socials. That's what we need.

• 1:11:43Speaker 00

  Good point, Hank.

• 1:11:44Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:11:46Speaker 04

  My, my account says unbiased.

• 1:11:48Speaker 02

  It does, it clearly says.

• 1:11:49Speaker 00

  It doesn't say, it doesn't say Jets lover.

• 1:11:51Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:11:51Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:11:52Speaker 00

  Geno Smith lover.

• 1:11:54Speaker 02

  That would be very concerning.

• 1:11:55Speaker 00

  Yes. Um, this is more of not a household item, but like an on-person item, but I, I feel like I could win most fights if you just let me get my belt off. Like whipping someone would hurt so bad.

• 1:12:08Speaker 02

  It'd also be very emasculating.

• 1:12:09Speaker 00

  Yeah. Yes, that too.

• 1:12:11Speaker 02

  Right? If like, if you got into a fight and this dude started just hitting you with his belt.

• 1:12:15Speaker 00

  If he just whipped you, literal belt to ass.

• 1:12:17Speaker 02

  Yeah, you become, you become, he's your daddy at that point.

• 1:12:19Speaker 00

  Hmm.

• 1:12:20Speaker 03

  Also, I was thinking of like the George Bush clip, just like a shoe or a boot.

• 1:12:24Speaker 00

  Yeah, I think that's most likely what you'd end up throwing is something like that in panic.

• 1:12:29Speaker 02

  Or you could take your remote out and try to hit pause and see if they stopped.

• 1:12:33Speaker 00

  Yeah. Zach, you didn't want to pick, uh, like your gun? Well, I had gun in nightstand. Yeah. But I didn't take it. Yeah, that is a household item.

• 1:12:41Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:12:41Speaker 00

  What, what else do you have on your list, Zach?

• 1:12:43Speaker 03

  Uh, yeah, the fireplace stoker, we talked that.

• 1:12:45Speaker 00

  That was better than clothesline.

• 1:12:47Speaker 03

  Uh, we talked car keys, we talked the gun. That was pretty much it.

• 1:12:51Speaker 02

  Yeah, fireplace.

• 1:12:52Speaker 03

  I cup, I deleted just cause they didn't.

• 1:12:53Speaker 02

  What'd you delete?

• 1:12:54Speaker 00

  What'd you delete?

• 1:12:55Speaker 03

  Uh, what do we think about pretty much any?

• 1:12:57Speaker 01

  Anything you could drown somebody in.

• 1:12:59Speaker 02

  Like bathtub?

• 1:13:00Speaker 01

  Filling up the bathtub.

• 1:13:01Speaker 00

  Yeah, slowly filling up the bathtub, then drowning them.

• 1:13:04Speaker 01

  Or like if you keep it filled.

• 1:13:05Speaker 00

  At all times, just for it. That's your drowning tub.

• 1:13:08Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:13:09Speaker 02

  Or in case like the water goes out, you've got gallons of clean water right here.

• 1:13:14Speaker 00

  Yeah, PFT and I, we always talk about if someone came into our house, what we would do is we would, uh, we just hit the sauna and just lock them in there.

• 1:13:22Speaker 02

  Brutal way to go out. Or they, or they get like stronger beyond belief because of the rejuvenating powers of the sauna.

• 1:13:30Speaker 01

  I also say a lot of these items, I don't know if I could actually use them as household weapons. Anything you're doing the stabbing on, I think I, I don't think I have a chance. Like with the knives and the forks and stuff, I don't think, yeah, tough. That's scary stuff.

• 1:13:40Speaker 00

  Scissors.

• 1:13:42Speaker 01

  Yeah, think about how the close combat on scissors.

• 1:13:44Speaker 02

  I mean, screwdriver.

• 1:13:46Speaker 00

  Screwdriver would be good.

• 1:13:47Speaker 02

  Yeah, screwdriver might have been a miss.

• 1:13:48Speaker 00

  Nail gun.

• 1:13:49Speaker 02

  Nail gun's great.

• 1:13:50Speaker 01

  Yeah, nail gun's a great pick. Great pick.

• 1:13:52Speaker 02

  When I, when I used to be left alone when I was a kid at home, my dad would leave me with a bag of baseballs. And he'd be like, if anybody breaks in, just throw all these baseballs at him.

• 1:14:01Speaker 00

  I used to just build like, uh, with like little, little like not Lego blocks, but like the buildable blocks. I just used to build a little fort and be like, I'm good.

• 1:14:09Speaker 02

  I'm safe in here.

• 1:14:11Speaker 00

  I'm fucking fine. Okay. Good night, Rushmore boys. Uh, let's get to our interview. We got the college football mega preview with Brandon Walker and Tom Fornelli.

• 1:14:20Speaker 02

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• 1:15:56Speaker 00

  ID verification required to use a balance. The Venmo MasterCard is issued by the Bancorp Bank N A. Okay, we now welcome on, uh, two very special guests. It is Brandon Walker. And the reigning, pardon my take, official college football expert. Tom Fornelli, both in flesh. Uh, Tom, you have won. You are the expert for pardon my take college football. Now, Brandon, you won the year before.

• 1:16:30Speaker 02

  Let me just jump in. Brandon, you were just looking off into the distance. You weren't paying to a single word that Big Cat just said.

• 1:16:36Speaker 00

  No, I paid attention to every single word he said. I just didn't like any of them.

• 1:16:39Speaker 02

  No, you were just looking away, daydreaming the entire time.

• 1:16:42Speaker 00

  Daydreaming, I just didn't like what he was saying.

• 1:16:43Speaker 02

  Lock in.

• 1:16:44Speaker 00

  For people who might be new, we, every year we have both you guys on. We've done this. This is the third year, I believe.

• 1:16:48Speaker 01

  This will be the third year.

• 1:16:49Speaker 00

  Third year. Uh, you guys both pick, what is it? 12 teams each?

• 1:16:53Speaker 01

  12 teams to win the national title.

• 1:16:54Speaker 00

  And we do a point system in the playoffs. You get a point for being in the playoffs, point for winning, and then, uh, you know, it increases as you go.

• 1:17:03Speaker 00

  Brandon, you got absolutely dog walked last year by Tom.

• 1:17:06Speaker 01

  I destroyed him in the first year.

• 1:17:07Speaker 00

  He is the college football expert. And I apologize, Tom, because we were at Camp Barstool, then these guys were in California. I was in Saratoga. We, we weren't able to plan much for you, uh, for winning. We have a couple of things. Zach, do you?

• 1:17:22Speaker 01

  Time out, time out, time out, time out. Not that this is my show. You didn't do anything for me last year. In fact, when I got here as the reigning champ. You said, well, that was for last year. You said that doesn't carry over into this episode. That's what you said.

• 1:17:36Speaker 02

  But hang on for a second because it, you made some good points.

• 1:17:39Speaker 00

  Right.

• 1:17:39Speaker 02

  Sure. And you are a skilled debater. And so it was in part of a larger college football discussion where you said. That maybe you should think about honoring the college football expert.

• 1:17:47Speaker 00

  Sure.

• 1:17:48Speaker 02

  You won that debate.

• 1:17:48Speaker 00

  Right.

• 1:17:49Speaker 02

  You made great, excellent points. And so we're trying to evolve and we're trying to take that into consideration.

• 1:17:54Speaker 00

  Right our wrongs.

• 1:17:54Speaker 02

  Celebrate it a little bit.

• 1:17:55Speaker 00

  Yeah. So we just have all, listen, all we got was a little, uh, a little tiny ribbon. That we're gonna have Tom cut to, to signify that he won. And, uh.

• 1:18:07Speaker 01

  Just a ribbon.

• 1:18:08Speaker 00

  Start, start the ceremony. Yeah.

• 1:18:10Speaker 02

  This is, uh, cutting the ribbon on the 2026 college football season.

• 1:18:14Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:18:15Speaker 02

  Even though it kind of already started.

• 1:18:18Speaker 00

  All the AWLs. He's dedicating to all the AWLs. Okay, great. That was incredible. All right, we can start the college football. Uh, season, we can start Tom Fornelli as an expert. I also, well, we got you a ring too. So here's a ring. If you want, this is the ring ceremony. That's it. Though.

• 1:18:35Speaker 02

  Um, no, there's a, oh, yeah, there's a card that comes along with it.

• 1:18:39Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:18:39Speaker 02

  If you want to just say what the card is.

• 1:18:41Speaker 00

  Yeah, you sit down in the mic and then, yeah, you get the card.

• 1:18:43Speaker 02

  Out loud there. It's just a card and a ring.

• 1:18:46Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:18:46Speaker 01

  It's a, it's a squirrel. And it says, oh my God, you did it.

• 1:18:50Speaker 02

  Fat squirrel.

• 1:18:51Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:18:51Speaker 01

  It's a fat squirrel.

• 1:18:52Speaker 02

  Very fat squirrel.

• 1:18:53Speaker 01

  Congratu- oh wow, look at this. I got a lot of Chick-fil-A gift cards here.

• 1:18:58Speaker 00

  Oh, Jesus Christ.

• 1:18:59Speaker 01

  This is, this is, you know what?

• 1:19:00Speaker 02

  Uh, $300 in Chick-fil-A.

• 1:19:02Speaker 01

  I am, listen, I'm, I'm touched. I'm humbled. I am absolutely thrilled to be the number one college football expert here on Pardon My Take. But I, I'm also humble. And Brandon did get one team out of his 12 into the college.

• 1:19:16Speaker 00

  Let's not act like you got a bunch yourself there, buddy boy.

• 1:19:19Speaker 01

  Going to give you one of my Chick-fil-A gift cards.

• 1:19:23Speaker 00

  Oh, don't act like you're not gonna take it.

• 1:19:24Speaker 01

  Come on, take it.

• 1:19:25Speaker 00

  I don't know what.

• 1:19:26Speaker 01

  Of course I'm gonna take it.

• 1:19:28Speaker 00

  We did get you a trophy too.

• 1:19:30Speaker 01

  Wait a second.

• 1:19:30Speaker 00

  Uh, we got you a trophy. So Tom, if you want to stand and actually look at the camera, uh, we'll take a picture real quick. Uh, you with the trophy. Uh, so just look right into the camera. Okay. All right, there's your confetti.

• 1:19:45Speaker 01

  Wow, that's an incredible picture.

• 1:19:48Speaker 00

  Um, yeah. Yeah. So that's, that's all we, well, no, actually, are you hungry, Tom? Cause we did, we also got you a cake. We got you a, a full cake. It says, congratulations, PMT college football expert, Tom Fornelli. Um, and that, and Brandon, that's.

• 1:20:05Speaker 02

  Brandon was right.

• 1:20:06Speaker 00

  Yeah. Oh, actually, oh shoot. I have one last thing here. You want to open that in front of Brandon as well? That's it. That's literally it.

• 1:20:12Speaker 02

  No more.

• 1:20:12Speaker 00

  It was just the, it was the ribbon, the cake, the ring, the trophy, the Chick-fil-A, and then just this card.

• 1:20:21Speaker 01

  So, man, let's see what this is.

• 1:20:22Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:20:22Speaker 01

  Here. Oh, this looks official for immediate release. Pardon My Take hereby announces the appointment of Tom Fornelli, that's me by the way. As the official college football expert of the Pardon My Take podcast. Mr. Fornelli, college football writer for CBS Sports and co-host of the Cover 3 Podcast, earned this designation by defeating Brandon Walker of ESPN. In the official Pardon My Take college football expert competition. In this capacity, Mr. Fornelli will serve as the podcast's principal college football authority, providing analysis, predictions and commentary throughout the season. Pardon My Take congratulates Tom Fornelli on this appointment. Signed, Big Cat and PFT commenter, the hosts of Pardon My Take, Barstool Sports, August 31st, 2026. And there appears to be a cash prize.

• 1:21:07Speaker 00

  Yeah, there's a thousand dollars of cash that you won, uh, for winning college football expert, uh, pardon my taste, college football expert.

• 1:21:13Speaker 01

  He, he did get one right.

• 1:21:14Speaker 00

  Yeah, he did get one right. So yeah, wow. You got, Brandon, you got a little confetti in your hair.

• 1:21:18Speaker 01

  Thank you.

• 1:21:19Speaker 00

  Um, let it, let it sit out.

• 1:21:20Speaker 01

  I want this feeling.

• 1:21:21Speaker 02

  Tom, you're a great winner.

• 1:21:22Speaker 01

  I am definitely keeping this money.

• 1:21:24Speaker 00

  Yes, absolutely.

• 1:21:26Speaker 02

  Of, of the best, most gracious winners on Pardon My Take. I think you're number one.

• 1:21:29Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:21:30Speaker 01

  Thank you.

• 1:21:30Speaker 02

  Congratulations.

• 1:21:31Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 1:21:33Speaker 02

  For being the best winner.

• 1:21:34Speaker 00

  Thank you. Again, Brandon, you said that, uh, we didn't do it well last time, so.

• 1:21:40Speaker 01

  Listen, this, you know.

• 1:21:40Speaker 00

  Fix it.

• 1:21:41Speaker 01

  I just, I just feel, and, and listen, I don't want to step on the toes of the winner here. I just feel if I had won, you wouldn't be going to this level of pomp and circumstance.

• 1:21:50Speaker 00

  You don't know that.

• 1:21:50Speaker 01

  Just one correction. Did you win?

• 1:21:52Speaker 00

  No.

• 1:21:52Speaker 01

  No, no, I said I didn't. I, I did not win. You are the, you, you, you beat me, uh, by picking teams like Clemson and Michigan and Northwestern in your playoff. I picked, I did not pick Northwestern.

• 1:22:02Speaker 00

  Well, you had Missouri, Baylor.

• 1:22:06Speaker 01

  Oh, look at the, look at the college football expert over here. Doesn't even know the logos. Can I, can I say something? You can say a lot of things. Trophies in my way. I just saw purple.

• 1:22:13Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:22:14Speaker 01

  Giant trophy. Let me move my giant trophy. Now that is a wildcat. Yeah. Put this right here.

• 1:22:23Speaker 00

  So Brandon.

• 1:22:23Speaker 01

  I feel like there's something between us.

• 1:22:25Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:22:25Speaker 01

  It's this giant trophy.

• 1:22:26Speaker 00

  That's a hell of a trophy.

• 1:22:27Speaker 01

  This is, this is fucking awesome.

• 1:22:28Speaker 00

  Yeah. It's a big ass trophy. Congratulations, Tom.

• 1:22:33Speaker 01

  Thank you.

• 1:22:33Speaker 00

  Is it worth that big of a grin, Zach? He won so good. He's so good at winning.

• 1:22:41Speaker 01

  Did you want to look at the ring too?

• 1:22:42Speaker 00

  I'm all right.

• 1:22:43Speaker 02

  You want to kiss it? Kiss the ring?

• 1:22:45Speaker 00

  Who did I have?

• 1:22:47Speaker 02

  So, well, let's see, Brandon, you had Penn State.

• 1:22:49Speaker 00

  Notre Dame should have made it.

• 1:22:50Speaker 02

  Yeah, Notre Dame did not make it.

• 1:22:51Speaker 00

  Should have made it.

• 1:22:52Speaker 02

  Uh, LSU, Texas, Oregon, Boise.

• 1:22:56Speaker 00

  Yeah. Listen, you did your best. That's what matters. And I think. Yeah.

• 1:23:00Speaker 02

  Uh, that's Arizona State.

• 1:23:01Speaker 00

  Sure, Illinois.

• 1:23:02Speaker 02

  Illinois, Washington.

• 1:23:04Speaker 00

  And St. Louis Cardinals.

• 1:23:05Speaker 01

  You really thought you were doing something by picking Illinois before.

• 1:23:07Speaker 00

  Yeah, you did.

• 1:23:08Speaker 01

  That's the best part.

• 1:23:09Speaker 00

  You were mad when I did it.

• 1:23:10Speaker 01

  Yeah, I was mad.

• 1:23:11Speaker 02

  Well, you two idiots should have just taken JMU like I was telling you to, and that would have been another one for you.

• 1:23:15Speaker 00

  Or Indiana.

• 1:23:16Speaker 01

  Listen, we, we both have room for improvement. We didn't draft Indiana.

• 1:23:19Speaker 02

  Indiana is not on there.

• 1:23:20Speaker 01

  Yeah, there's room for improvement. I both.

• 1:23:21Speaker 00

  Twenty-four teams. We didn't pick Indiana.

• 1:23:23Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:23:23Speaker 01

  I will say, I think that you should use this as motivation.

• 1:23:26Speaker 00

  You're really wearing the ring? Yeah, of course.

• 1:23:28Speaker 01

  Tell me you've never won a ring without telling me you've never won a ring.

• 1:23:32Speaker 00

  Oh, that's, listen, Brandon, if Tom. Oh my God, they got you a real ring. If Tom was wearing this, if Tom was wearing this ring, walking down the street tomorrow, I'd be like, Tom, come on, man. But this is ring ceremony night. Fine, all right. Like, we just, we just debuted the rings.

• 1:23:45Speaker 01

  I'm gonna be buried in this ring.

• 1:23:47Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:23:47Speaker 02

  Brandon's just not used to seeing a ring that doesn't monitor your cholesterol, so he's confused when he looks at it.

• 1:23:53Speaker 01

  That's what this one does.

• 1:23:54Speaker 00

  All right, let's get, let's get into, let's get into this year. I've led you to two rings, sir.

• 1:23:59Speaker 02

  Who got the MVP last year?

• 1:24:00Speaker 00

  All right, let's go. Twenty twenty-five is in the past. Tom, congratulations.

• 1:24:03Speaker 01

  Thank you.

• 1:24:04Speaker 00

  Hopefully we did you, you know, justice. I feel like you actually won something.

• 1:24:07Speaker 01

  I am truly honored and again, humbled. I can't believe you guys did all this for me, but I appreciate it.

• 1:24:12Speaker 00

  It was the least we could do. It was the least. We do have a car for you, uh, a new Lambo.

• 1:24:17Speaker 02

  It's an El Camino.

• 1:24:19Speaker 01

  How many fucking owners have that?

• 1:24:21Speaker 02

  Six people turn it down.

• 1:24:23Speaker 01

  A timeshare on an El Camino.

• 1:24:25Speaker 00

  All right, let's, let's, let's start with twenty twenty-six, though. We are, we are on the precipice of week one. Week zero happened, whatever. Uh, where would you guys like to start? Do you want to start in the SEC, Brandon? Yeah, we can, although I will defer to the reigning champion. Okay, that's fair. All right.

• 1:24:41Speaker 01

  Oh yeah, let's start in the SEC.

• 1:24:42Speaker 00

  All right, so, uh, I, I'll let you guys kind of take it away, but my big thought in the SEC is I, I think people are being, uh, they're not giving Georgia enough respect. I think Georgia's gonna be an old school, like Alabama bully ball type team. And I think Georgia and Texas are clear, clearly the top. And then it's kind of like the big ten. It's like, who is going to be the three, four? Who else is gonna crash the party? Go ahead, Brandon.

• 1:25:08Speaker 02

  Real quick, I, I want to give these guys a little bit of direction here. So we will start with the SEC, but it could go, it, you know, you guys could take it haywire.

• 1:25:16Speaker 00

  Sure.

• 1:25:16Speaker 02

  Just as a thought starter, is the SEC dead?

• 1:25:19Speaker 00

  Yes. No.

• 1:25:21Speaker 02

  Did the Big Ten kill the SEC?

• 1:25:22Speaker 00

  The Big Ten is, is the best conference in college football right now. And I think they will probably win their fourth national title with a fourth different team this year, but the SEC is not dead. Ooh. Yeah, that's what I think. Okay. So, all right, but, but, but the Georgia and Texas will start there. May I push back on a little bit? Yeah, of course. So I do think you're exactly right about Georgia. I think that defense is gonna be back to Georgia standards this year. And the quarterback is, is consistently excellent and doesn't get enough credit. The playoff game they lost, he was incredible, made a lot of great plays. Uh, so I think he's an under, underappreciated guy in college football. I think I'd push back on Texas being the clear number two. The more I thought about it, that schedule is so nasty. You agree with me on Georgia? I do agree with you on Georgia. And this could be like, because Georgia is a team that has fallen short the last couple of years, but it's like, they also were there.

• 1:26:07Speaker 00

  They, you know, they got injured against Notre Dame. That's right. They hit a unbelievable quarterback in Trinidad Chambers, who's on an all-time hot streak. Yeah. Like, Georgia's fallen off, but let's be honest, it's hard to win every year. They're still in the mix. They're still very much in the mix. And the reason I'd push back on Texas is I just don't like the, uh, the, the whispers around the program right now. It feels like Sark never really has that thing where he's like, you know, I know Signetti at Indiana is a firm leader and that thing is tight. Georgia, Kirby Smart, same thing, even though they have the, you know, the off-the-field stuff with the, with the driving and stuff, but I don't feel that at Texas. I feel like it's always a tenuous grip on being the leader of that team. And you don't hear great things about Arch right now. And the schedule is so nasty. If they were to lose to Ohio State early again, that schedule's so brutal late that they could fall apart. Right.

• 1:26:52Speaker 02

  And they could have, they could have a couple of losses going into Red River, if, if they have a really bad loss.

• 1:26:56Speaker 00

  They have a top three roster in the country probably, but that hasn't really mattered.

• 1:26:59Speaker 02

  So, wait, what are the whispers? What are the whispers on the forty-eight? Because you can't just say whisper, you're like, threw a grenade and then you.

• 1:27:04Speaker 00

  Well, you got parents getting taken to Twitter right now, saying it's all politics out here and they're not like, and which is, is just fine. You can take that with a grain of salt if a team is buttoned up about their stuff. And Texas really kind of usually isn't.

• 1:27:16Speaker 01

  I, I'm with you on Georgia as far as what they're, how close they've been and how they've been kind of dismissed. And that if you look at the NFL draft last year, there weren't a lot of Bulldogs taking it, but to me, that's because everybody that was the best player on their team last year was typically a sophomore.

• 1:27:28Speaker 00

  Yeah, they came back.

• 1:27:29Speaker 01

  So it's like you got all that coming back. Gunner is like perpetually unappreciated at quarterback. But I also think that part of what he's unappreciated for is the lack of an explosive passing game has also played a part in holding Georgia back. Because yeah, they lost on a last second field goal to Ole Miss in the playoff last year. But maybe if they had more of a passing threat, they wouldn't have been in that situation to begin with. So I, I do think it counterbalances a bit. As for Texas, I, I don't care what parents are tweeting. Parents are parents. They're pissed off about things all the time. Sometimes, you know, they like tell the school that they're gonna file a cease and desist against them for using a number, you know, just because they gave it to somebody else.

• 1:28:04Speaker 02

  By the way, Brandon, take that shirt off. You got a lot of, you got some.

• 1:28:07Speaker 01

  Show some respect to Jay Daniels.

• 1:28:09Speaker 02

  Wearing that number in this.

• 1:28:10Speaker 00

  This is, uh, this is Arkansas great Darren McFadden.

• 1:28:13Speaker 02

  I'm not, I don't care what jersey it is.

• 1:28:15Speaker 01

  I think that was against LSU.

• 1:28:16Speaker 00

  Should be a one-time Heisman winner at least.

• 1:28:18Speaker 02

  Zach, can you put some tape? We're gonna put some tape on that number five.

• 1:28:21Speaker 00

  We're not taping.

• 1:28:22Speaker 02

  We're taping, we're taping right now.

• 1:28:24Speaker 00

  Legend Darren McFadden.

• 1:28:25Speaker 01

  Darren McFadden is one of the greatest college football players of all time.

• 1:28:27Speaker 00

  Well, you can't get credit for it. I'm wearing the shirt.

• 1:28:29Speaker 01

  Darren McFadden. Congratulations on having a shirt. He's still one of the greatest.

• 1:28:32Speaker 00

  You have a shirt too.

• 1:28:33Speaker 01

  Yeah, mine's just black.

• 1:28:34Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:28:35Speaker 01

  But no, I, to Texas, they are, they're extremely talented. They have, like, they were in the, you know, college football playoff twice in the last three years. They got to the four team that came two years ago. They nearly lost to Arizona State, but they were also a few plays away from beating Ohio State and getting the title game themselves. Last year, they missed out mostly because of, you know, they lost that Ohio State game early in the year and they lost to Florida for some fucking reason. But just, I, I don't think that they're not the second best team in the league. I wouldn't be surprised if they finished in third because of the schedule that they have to play. But I also think if you look at the talent, as you said, they're extremely talented. My concern has been, like, the one thing with Sark, the last few years, every year with Texas, I feel like I'm saying the same shit, where they're able to move the ball, but they get to the red zone and then they don't really finish drives.

• 1:29:19Speaker 01

  And at some point Sark has to figure out how to call an offense that finishes drives and gets to the end zone, or else they're never going to achieve their ceiling. They could do that, though. And if they figure that out, and if Arch Manning kind of develops into what everybody's expected him to be, if the kid we saw at the end of last season is the kid that comes in this year and starts playing to that level right away, that's a very scary, very good football team. And that they bring in Cam Coleman, a receiver from Auburn. That is, you know, Jeremiah Smith gets all the oxygen and deservedly so. But Cam Coleman is very good himself.

• 1:29:46Speaker 02

  So between the two of you, um, I, I think I'm gonna lean Brandon on, on his takes on Texas. Because you got to see him up close and personal last year.

• 1:29:54Speaker 00

  I did. I did. I saw him very close. Really close.

• 1:29:57Speaker 02

  Super close, super personal, it felt like.

• 1:29:59Speaker 00

  As close as you can possibly get. As personal as it could be. I smelled the receiver as he caught the winning touchdown. Uh, he went right by me and I had nothing but class. I was like, great, great effort, great catch. And I knew he caught it. And, uh, here's what it is. I, I don't think, I, I certainly think there's a world they are the second best team in the, in the conference.

• 1:30:16Speaker 00

  But I don't think the separation between them and everybody else exists till, till we really see them put it together. Like you mentioned, they got beat by Florida, you know? Kentucky took them to overtime. We took them to overtime. Like, they, they really were hanging on by a thread all season. They were waiting for Arch to develop and waiting for him to develop. He finally got going at the end, but what if he has, what if he's just a slow starter?

• 1:30:33Speaker 01

  But who's your second best team in the SEC if it's not Texas?

• 1:30:36Speaker 00

  That's a great question. I, you know, there, there's, there's a lot of teams that can be. It can be Ole Miss. It can be Alabama. It can be Oklahoma. I would probably slot Texas in there right now, but I just feel like the, the potential for things to go wrong early against Ohio State starts, starts the cheese sliding off the cracker and Sark might not be the guy to save it.

• 1:30:54Speaker 01

  See, I, I think if there's a team that I'm looking at, that could be the, the team that supplants them at number two.

• 1:30:58Speaker 00

  Sure.

• 1:30:58Speaker 01

  I'm looking at LSU.

• 1:31:00Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:31:00Speaker 01

  I, I, with that roster, with Lane coming in, with everything that they have done, obviously last year was a very disappointing season for them, which is why all the changes were made and why Lane has come in. But I also feel as though, like, Ole Miss, Trinidad is fantastic. Trinidad might be the best quarterback in the country. But I don't know if the rest of the team is there. And I don't know if losing Lane Kiffin to LSU and that staff going in and then having a first-time head coach in Pete Golding, who, listen, he won two playoff games. One of them was against Tulane, so you can dismiss that if you want to, but he did beat Georgia in a playoff game. He did beat Kirby Smart. But it's different when you are going through the regular season and you're doing it week in and week out, and teams have scouted you and they know who you are and they know what your tendencies are. So can he do that on a weekly basis? I don't know. But I look at LSU and the coaching upgrade that they have and how talented that team is.

• 1:31:44Speaker 01

  I, I wonder if they're not the second best team in the league.

• 1:31:47Speaker 00

  I, they certainly can be. They're, they're in the mix. Do I believe in that quarterback enough to propel them there right now? I don't think I do. Sam Levitt, uh, two years ago, when he had an NFL running back and a, an elite, elite, elite receiver, they made it to the playoff and he was solid. Last year, he only had the receiver and he had some health issues, but they, he wasn't good when he was healthy last year. He wasn't good pretty much at all last year. I watched him against Mississippi State in Starkville, lose a game that he threw for seventy-eight yards. Like, I just, I just don't know if Levitt is the guy. When they went quarterback shopping this year, they didn't go to the store and say, we want to come home with Sam Levitt. They settled for Sam Levitt. So if Lane's a great quarterback guy, maybe he gets the utmost out of him, but right now, I don't know if I can believe in that quarterback. In a league full of pretty good quarterbacks, I don't know if I can crown him, yes.

• 1:32:30Speaker 01

  All very fair, but what were you saying? This time last year about Trinidad Chambliss, you had no idea who he was.

• 1:32:35Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:32:36Speaker 01

  Lane turned him into the best QB in the country.

• 1:32:37Speaker 02

  I got a, I got a question about quarterbacks, the SEC.

• 1:32:39Speaker 01

  Sure.

• 1:32:40Speaker 02

  Does Kalen DeBoer finally have his quarterback?

• 1:32:42Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:32:43Speaker 00

  I don't.

• 1:32:44Speaker 02

  That's like Alabama is one of those teams, like I said.

• 1:32:47Speaker 00

  I don't think quarterback's the issue though.

• 1:32:48Speaker 01

  No, I don't think quarterback's the biggest issue they have.

• 1:32:50Speaker 02

  I mean, he, he got hurt and kind of, it didn't look good at the end.

• 1:32:54Speaker 00

  That's a first round NFL pick. That's a first round guy right there. Like that's a damn good quarterback. It wasn't quarterback. It was a lack of toughness and.

• 1:33:00Speaker 02

  Well, they couldn't run the ball.

• 1:33:01Speaker 00

  The fact they've sucked all the toughness out of that program in two years.

• 1:33:04Speaker 02

  So do you think Alabama is going to, cause there is going to be three or four teams in the SEC that get to the playoff? Who is going to be those three and third and fourth teams?

• 1:33:13Speaker 00

  Which means there's going to be like four teams that think they're going to playoff right now that are going to be like six and six or seven and five. I would say Georgia. Who would you say?

• 1:33:21Speaker 01

  The three or four, I'd go Georgia. I would go Texas.

• 1:33:23Speaker 00

  I like LSU.

• 1:33:24Speaker 01

  I like LSU and I think that fourth one is where it gets complicated.

• 1:33:27Speaker 00

  I like Oklahoma a lot.

• 1:33:29Speaker 01

  Oklahoma, I think has a very good shot to do it just because you know, the defense is going to be incredible and it's going to be, you know, can John Matier stay healthy? Can they develop more of a passing attack that teams have to fear? They don't, you don't necessarily have to like rely on it, but you need it to be realistic because that would help with their run game. And also will John Matier kind of hand off sometimes?

• 1:33:46Speaker 00

  So I liken them to last year's Miami where I think Oklahoma can get to 10 and two this year. Remember how Miami went 10 and two? And then they show up to the playoff with that defensive line, that defense, and they just started wrecking people.

• 1:33:57Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:33:57Speaker 00

  Started destroying people. If Oklahoma were to go 10 and two in the regular season and sneak into the playoff, they could be that team where their defense takes over the playoff.

• 1:34:03Speaker 01

  And they have, they can go nine and three and get to the playoff.

• 1:34:06Speaker 00

  Cause they're at Michigan in week two.

• 1:34:08Speaker 01

  Like if they win that Michigan game, and then even if they lose a few games in the SEC, they are going to be one of those teams that will have a legitimate claim to an at large spot at nine and three.

• 1:34:16Speaker 00

  Yeah. They just need a couple of wins on that.

• 1:34:18Speaker 02

  One, one school that I haven't heard from you guys yet is A and M.

• 1:34:22Speaker 00

  I don't believe in them at all. Uh, A and M fans think I'm just a hater, but I.

• 1:34:25Speaker 02

  Well, you are, like both things can be true.

• 1:34:28Speaker 00

  That's fine. Uh, but, but, but last year.

• 1:34:30Speaker 02

  You also hate Oklahoma.

• 1:34:31Speaker 00

  Their first seven, I hate everybody. Their first seven games in the SEC were against teams ranked 10th through 16 in the SEC. They needed a miracle to beat South Carolina. Then they finally get to Texas. They finally get to Miami. They can't score. They can't move the ball. And I think the quarterback is just okay. And I think they had to revamp their offensive and defensive lines. They're not getting that schedule again. I think A and M right now is a fake top 10 team.

• 1:34:51Speaker 01

  Yeah. A newfound reality of college football that I think fanbases need to come to grips with is now that you've got the super conferences where you've got 18 or 16 teams in your league and you're only playing nine conference games. Schedule luck is going to play a role for a lot of teams.

• 1:35:05Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:35:05Speaker 01

  That's why everybody's high on Penn State because look at their schedule and like, look at NC State over last weekend. People were talking about NC State because look at their schedule. So you could get a little lost in just relying on a team's schedule to think that they're going to be good. But Texas A and M took advantage of it last year. They had it set up for them and to their credit, they went out there and they won every single game like they were supposed to. Marcel Reed took a step forward. And then when they ran into Texas at the end of the regular season, they lost. They get to the playoff and they play Miami and they lose a home game in which the offense couldn't do anything. So now Colin Klein has left, your offensive coordinator has gone to take over at Kansas State. Your defensive coordinator left. I don't know if they're that upset about that, but I do, they do have two new coordinators.

• 1:35:43Speaker 01

  Can Marcel Reed may continue to grow? If he doesn't, and the schedule is more difficult than what you faced last year, it's going to be really hard to do what they did again.

• 1:35:52Speaker 02

  Who's the SEC team that we're not talking about that could somehow crash the park?

• 1:35:56Speaker 01

  South Carolina.

• 1:35:57Speaker 02

  Ooh. Okay. Brandon hates South Carolina. At the start of the year, last year, I was like, I was all in on South.

• 1:36:02Speaker 01

  Well, the problem with South Carolina last year is they brought in an offensive coordinator that tried to turn Lenora Sellers into a pocket quarterback and Lenora Sellers is not a pocket quarterback.

• 1:36:11Speaker 00

  You knew that South Carolina was my team. I was going to say, that's why you said it so fast. You knew it. You knew it. Cause I've said it. That's why you said it so damn fast.

• 1:36:19Speaker 01

  Listen.

• 1:36:19Speaker 00

  You knew damn well. I've been, I've been.

• 1:36:22Speaker 02

  It's not a bad strategy to copy off the expert.

• 1:36:25Speaker 01

  We're both, we're both experts.

• 1:36:26Speaker 00

  I've been sounding the horn on South Carolina for months.

• 1:36:28Speaker 01

  You're number seven or number two on this show.

• 1:36:30Speaker 02

  He's former expert.

• 1:36:31Speaker 01

  Yeah. Like, listen, we both are smart. We both know things. I'm just a little smarter, a little better looking and a little quicker than you on the draw. So I'm going to South Carolina because with Kendall Brials coming in, they're going to let Lenora Sellers get back to what he's best at. Drop back. If the first read is there, throw it. If it's not, you're like six, two and 240 pounds. Go run over some defensive back and pick up a first down. And Kendall Brials, if we go back to week zero, he was the offensive coordinator at TCU last year.

• 1:36:58Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:36:59Speaker 01

  He left. Look at TCU's offense without Kendall Brials last weekend. Now he's coming to South Carolina. They are going to be better than they were last year. I'm not saying that they are going to be a playoff team, but if you're asking me which team I think is not being discussed that could sneak in there. It is South Carolina. The one caveat, Dylan Stewart needs to be healthy. He's already got some back issues that are kind of scaring me a little bit, but hopefully he's ready to play.

• 1:37:21Speaker 02

  Good answer.

• 1:37:22Speaker 00

  I'll throw another team in there. South Carolina. I agree wholeheartedly. Uh, I think not every quarterback that we were high on last year is going to bounce back. I think Lenora Sellers is, he's too talented not to. And the offensive coaching is going to help him bounce back in the schedule. I think they beat A and M at home, for example, but since he said South Carolina, let me say Florida. I think Florida brings back a decent defense. You know, Jaden Ball is good. They're, they got great receiver room. If they can get any sort of quarterback play that schedule early. They catch Ole Miss coming off the LSU week, uh, in early September. This is a team that could start six and O. And if they're six and O going into that gauntlet in the back half, there's somebody that can really mess with the powers that be in the SEC.

• 1:37:59Speaker 01

  And another team that's made a big upgraded offensive coordinator too.

• 1:38:02Speaker 02

  So when you look at their roster from Florida, uh, how many of the guys on the team are, are guys that are brought in like brand new to the program?

• 1:38:09Speaker 01

  There's a decent amount.

• 1:38:09Speaker 00

  Not as many as you think though.

• 1:38:10Speaker 01

  Yeah. Not as many as typically happen with a coaching change.

• 1:38:13Speaker 02

  Really Napier's guys.

• 1:38:14Speaker 01

  Yeah. Napier, listen, Napier recruiting wasn't really the problem. It was, you know, being a coach on Saturday, that was a problem for them.

• 1:38:21Speaker 02

  Okay. Uh, any Heisman, uh, what's your favorite Heisman bet from the SEC?

• 1:38:28Speaker 00

  So I have one and now it's, it's kind of going up in smoke. Okay.

• 1:38:33Speaker 02

  Oh no.

• 1:38:34Speaker 00

  But I don't know.

• 1:38:35Speaker 02

  Before week one?

• 1:38:36Speaker 00

  We don't know when Ahmad Hardy's going to play.

• 1:38:38Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:38:39Speaker 00

  But coming in like a month ago, he was plus 10,000. He is the best running back in the country. He is. Now he got shot in the off season and that's never good. And he's working his way back. They, they've been very spotty with information. They've been very close to the chest. Now we do kind of hear that he's probably not playing in week one or at the start of the season. But if he were to come back by week two or three, put up 1,500 yards, the Heisman sometimes is a story award.

• 1:39:03Speaker 02

  Can they win nine games though?

• 1:39:05Speaker 00

  If he's great, they would, I mean, they would have to, can they? Yes. Would they? I don't know, but.

• 1:39:09Speaker 02

  That's the limit now. It used to be, you know, obviously you have to be like, in the playoff, you had to be in a playoff, but now like Jay Daniels won it with nine games, not go to the playoff. I think nine and Travis Hunter didn't go to the playoff. I think eight or nine has to be the limit.

• 1:39:23Speaker 00

  Super long shot. Uh, Ahmad Hardy was my guy this year, but now just, I, I do like Sellers to, to, to put it back and become a top five quarterback in the, in the entire country.

• 1:39:31Speaker 01

  Yeah. If, I, another quarterback, you could look at somebody you asked earlier, Keelan Russell, quarterback at Alabama. Like if they do get to the playoff, it's probably going to be because he has a fantastic season. And part of their problems the last year is they have not been able to run the ball. Some of that's the offensive line and some of it was just the guys that they had at running back. I think Keelan Russell being back there, if the offensive line is not where they need it to be, Keelan is the kind of guy who can make up for that with his legs and kind of give, like John Matier did last year for Oklahoma. He could end up being the running game in a lot of ways. So he's going to have the story too. Like he's an incoming, you know, first time starter. If Alabama gets back to the playoff, they're back in the run. He's going to be in the running, but I think Sellers is a good call too.

• 1:40:10Speaker 02

  Now to keep in mind, Will Stein is a listener of the show. He's probably listening as, as we talk right now. Uh, what can we spec from Kentucky?

• 1:40:17Speaker 00

  I like them. I like them a lot. If you look at the rebuild offensive line, they went and got dudes from, from some big time places. And the quarterback, I just assume is going to be good under this new offense with, with Will Stein. I think he'll know what he's doing at quarterback.

• 1:40:29Speaker 02

  He went to, uh, Notre Dame, right?

• 1:40:31Speaker 00

  Uh, Kenny Minchi.

• 1:40:31Speaker 01

  Kenny Minchi, yeah.

• 1:40:32Speaker 00

  Yeah. I, I, I like them to possibly, they played Alabama in week two. And my God, what a way to start your new program if they were to somehow do that. And then they play LSU later in the season and I think they might get one of those teams at home. So I, I like Kentucky a lot.

• 1:40:46Speaker 01

  I love what Will said at SEC media days about being the reason, you know, that Kentucky can win. I do think it's going to take two years though. I, I don't know if he's going to be able to come in there and have that immediate kind of success. I think the schedule's pretty difficult. I think that you're overhauling the roster. I do agree with you. Like Kenny Minchi is not a known commodity at this point, but if you talk to Notre Dame people last year, that was not just, you know, we're saying this to keep a guy happy and keep him on the roster. When they were talking about how close the race was between CJ Carr and Kenny Minchi. Minchi was really pushing Carr for that gig. So that gives me optimism about him going forward. And plus we've seen Will Stein, just as a quarterback developer, what he's been able to do for guys. It's, it's realistic to think the kid's going to be good. I just don't know if Kentucky is at the place right now as an entire roster where it needs to be to win a bunch of games in the SEC.

• 1:41:29Speaker 00

  They go to a bowl though?

• 1:41:30Speaker 01

  They could, but I mean, their win total is what? Four and a half?

• 1:41:33Speaker 00

  I know.

• 1:41:34Speaker 01

  Yeah. They could get there if Minchi really, really hits, but I don't know. I think they're probably going to be in that five, seven, four.

• 1:41:39Speaker 00

  I think they're going to a bowl.

• 1:41:40Speaker 02

  All right. Let's talk about the, the, the major leagues, the big 10. Enough of the.

• 1:41:44Speaker 00

  Not really, not really a big difference as far as, you know.

• 1:41:46Speaker 02

  I mean, you said it's the best conference.

• 1:41:48Speaker 00

  Three in a row.

• 1:41:50Speaker 02

  You predicted the fourth in a row. Are you doing that as a jinx, knowing that you always get your predictions wrong?

• 1:41:54Speaker 00

  And no, I don't always get my predictions wrong. I had Georgia to win the national title before they ever won a national title. I had, uh, who won the national title two years ago? Ohio State two years ago, even after they lost to Michigan. I said, you better bet them now, right? Three minutes after they lost to Michigan. I said, they're about to go on a run. That's what I said.

• 1:42:08Speaker 02

  You kept betting Georgia when they had Mark Rick?

• 1:42:10Speaker 00

  No, that's not.

• 1:42:11Speaker 02

  That's what it sounded like saying. You kept saying Georgia was the key and then.

• 1:42:14Speaker 00

  Not what I said. Is the trophy getting in your way?

• 1:42:16Speaker 01

  No, but I got some confidence stuck on my shoes.

• 1:42:19Speaker 02

  All right. Big 10.

• 1:42:20Speaker 00

  Sure.

• 1:42:20Speaker 02

  Oregon, Indiana, Ohio State.

• 1:42:23Speaker 01

  Those are three big 10 teams, correct?

• 1:42:24Speaker 02

  They are. Can we say that those, what, what's going to say? Let me, let me do the reverse. What's.

• 1:42:28Speaker 01

  Stop one of those teams from getting to the playoff because it feels like they are head and shoulders above everyone else.

• 1:42:35Speaker 00

  For Ohio State, it's the schedule.

• 1:42:36Speaker 01

  Yeah, Ohio State finally has a tough schedule.

• 1:42:38Speaker 00

  Really nasty.

• 1:42:39Speaker 01

  Very like I, I fully expect Ohio State is going to get to the college football playoff. But I do think that a lot of people are overlooking how difficult their schedule is. There are a lot of games on there like. You could talk about how they've never lost, you know, fewer than two games in a regular season. Then you look at their schedule like, yeah, well, if there's going to be a time for them to do it. This is going to be the time where it's going to happen.

• 1:42:59Speaker 00

  At Texas, at Indiana, at USC.

• 1:43:01Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah. And then don't they. Oregon at home.

• 1:43:03Speaker 00

  Oregon at home.

• 1:43:04Speaker 02

  At Iowa.

• 1:43:04Speaker 01

  Exactly. So it's like, this is going to be, if they get through the season at 10 and two and don't win the conference, they're still going to be one of the best teams in the country. That might be the best spot for them. Yeah. Not even go to the Big Ten championship game. They are very talented. They have a very, very good team. Julian saying, we need to see him like he struggled in their bigger games at the end of the year. He struggled in that game against Texas, but that was his first career start. So you need to see him take a step forward. And they did lose a lot of guys on the defensive side of the ball. So the biggest obstacle they face will be Julian saying not progressing and that schedule. But I, I think even if things don't go well, they're just too talented not to be in the playoff at the end of the year.

• 1:43:42Speaker 00

  Yeah. Can I say the same thing is true about Oregon though? Like, like I'm going to pick Oregon.

• 1:43:46Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:43:46Speaker 00

  Uh, but like Julian saying Dante Moore have the same problem. They both look so super normal when the other defense got elite. And Dante Moore was really bad when the other defense got elite. And then Julian saying was, was kind of bad. But I still think Oregon's so loaded it might not matter.

• 1:44:01Speaker 01

  There's a, a narrative of like, oh, Dan Lanning can't win the big one. Like Dan Lanning has put his team in a spot where they've lost to the national champion. I think their last five losses are the national champion. It Dante Moore is the one that like, can he step up? We, we were talking about, I think it was Booger, like the Indiana game was bad. The Iowa game, I know he had the drive at the end, but it was bad. Uh, there was another one in there where it's.

• 1:44:28Speaker 00

  The Penn State game wasn't.

• 1:44:29Speaker 01

  Penn State game. Yeah. Like they, they probably should have won that in regulation. Like there's, there's just moments where you're like, I need, I need to see him step it up. And win a game for the Ducks. Ironically though, like that's all true. And like those road games he had a difficult time with. But like, if you think about the teams that we think of as national title contenders this year, you could say that about pretty much every single one of their quarterbacks. Like they all struggled in big games. It's like Julian saying struggled against Indiana, Dante Moore struggled against Indiana. Guess who won the national title? Indiana. So I mean, there, there's some of that to it. And you do expect that, you know, you're not going to be great when you're playing great defenses. That is why they are great defenses. The question typically is, can you make enough plays? And they just didn't make enough plays in those game.

• 1:45:12Speaker 01

  But I do believe that with what Oregon has coming back at the receiver position, like they are, if, if they fail this year or Dante Moore fails this year. To me, that's more on Dante Moore than anything because there's really no excuse of what they have at the receiver spot. They are fucking loaded. Yeah.

• 1:45:27Speaker 00

  Everywhere spot.

• 1:45:28Speaker 01

  Everywhere spot. Defensive line. Well, no, I do want like the offensive line could be, that's the one thing I'm going to be watching early with them. I don't know if we'll learn a whole lot against Boise when they open the season. Yeah. But that's one area where I'm going to be kind of keeping a close eye on because they are replacing both their tackles. It's, it's, it's an interesting thing. I do think that, uh, Indiana is getting weirdly disrespected, even though they are a top 10 team and, but they're. Like, why would anyone doubt Kurt Signetti at this?

• 1:45:53Speaker 00

  Well, they shouldn't. He's the best coach in the country. My thing, are they getting disrespected or is there just not enough respect to go around? Because with Oregon.

• 1:45:59Speaker 01

  Oh, I like that.

• 1:46:00Speaker 00

  It just seems like they're, Oregon's got a peak roster this year, right?

• 1:46:03Speaker 01

  Yeah. Oregon and Oregon is the, is the bell of the ball in the office.

• 1:46:06Speaker 00

  Right. Like the Oregon and Texas both have rosters. Like how can you get much better than these rosters? So they're naturally getting attention. Ohio State's always there. So Indiana isn't getting the standard Alabama, Georgia level of defending national champ attention, but this is, this could be a one-off. We don't know. So they are getting disrespected in that way, but I just think it's Oregon, Texas attracting the attention rather than Indiana not getting.

• 1:46:28Speaker 01

  Okay. I think Indiana is fucking thrilled with that, by the way.

• 1:46:30Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah. Because what you just did was wildly disrespectful to Indiana.

• 1:46:34Speaker 00

  How?

• 1:46:35Speaker 02

  You just said I, they might be a one and done. This might be.

• 1:46:37Speaker 00

  Yeah, they might be.

• 1:46:38Speaker 02

  A flash in the pan for Indiana.

• 1:46:40Speaker 00

  But they might be.

• 1:46:40Speaker 01

  It's really hard to win consecutive national titles. It doesn't happen a lot.

• 1:46:44Speaker 02

  They had, they had a, a great schedule in Sig's first year, but still he, he outperformed expectations.

• 1:46:49Speaker 01

  Sure.

• 1:46:50Speaker 02

  To a crazy degree, even though, you know, by the end, I think you, you know, you're looking back and you're thinking, I was right saying that there were going to be frauds when it came down to it.

• 1:46:57Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:46:58Speaker 02

  Uh, but still a great year, year one, year two, one of the best stories, one of the best teams we've seen in a very long time.

• 1:47:03Speaker 01

  Sure.

• 1:47:04Speaker 02

  In college football. Um, so to say like the expectation from them should be anything less than repeating is kind of disrespectful.

• 1:47:11Speaker 00

  I have seven teams I think can win the national title. They are 100% in there. If that's not respect, I don't know what is. Because they're replacing a Heisman Trophy winning number one draft pick guy. Uh, they're replacing him at quarterback and we're just assuming they're going to go right on. Because they're keeping the coordinators, they're keeping the, the coaches great. Like I'm just assuming they're going to be in an elite level, even though they lost one of the best players in the country. I think that's respect.

• 1:47:32Speaker 02

  Yeah. I think they also, you know, the, the money that they spent on the roster a lot more this year.

• 1:47:36Speaker 00

  Sure.

• 1:47:36Speaker 02

  Would Sig say like, I bought a bigger gun?

• 1:47:38Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:47:39Speaker 02

  That's, you know, I, I, I will still respect Indiana. I'm not saying you're disrespect. I think the college football landscape overall.

• 1:47:47Speaker 01

  There's.

• 1:47:47Speaker 02

  A little disrespect.

• 1:47:48Speaker 01

  Like Ohio State and Oregon is on their defensive lines, get a ton of credit, you know, a lot of, because of recruiting rankings and they have talented players. I believe there's a chance that Indiana has the best defensive line in the Big Ten. I think that is a real possibility with what they have. Both as guys that they've developed and because with the new rules, some people they've been able to bring back who weren't in NFL camps.

• 1:48:07Speaker 00

  Yeah, they've got 45 year olds.

• 1:48:08Speaker 01

  Exactly. They've got like fathers of three and on their defensive line. And I think that's, that's a huge advantage to have. So I, I wonder if like, you lose Fernando Mendoza, and I have said plenty of times this off season, like you typically don't lose the number one pick in the draft and get better. Like even when you bring in a new quarterback that you believe in, it's hard to imagine that Josh Hoover, no matter how good he is, can be what Fernando Mendoza was. But what if he is? Right. Like, and you still compare that with their defense where they lost some key guys, but they still have plenty of guys coming back. Their offensive line is still probably going to be pretty damn good. They brought in a kid, Nick Marsh at receiver, who, who's really the only good thing about Michigan State last year. Years of bringing him in. Yeah. Like this is a team that will be very much in the running all year. And I agree with you, there are seven teams, which by the way, is a wonderful thing. Yeah.

• 1:48:53Speaker 01

  That they can win a national title. It's great. All right. So in the Big Ten, similar conversation that we had in the SCC, if you, if you say those three teams. There's going to probably be a fourth team and I'll, you guys take it whichever direction you want of this group. What, uh. I'll take you. Michigan, Iowa, Penn State, USC, Washington. I'm going to say it now. Big 10 doesn't get a fourth team in. Oh, okay. I think they're only going to get those three. They're just going to eat each other alive? I think the rest of them are going to, it's, once you play the gun, listen, I'm going to speak about big 10 stuff. You don't understand where you come from. Oh, so I was going to ask you a clarifying question. When you get into the gauntlet of a big 10 schedule, okay. When you have to play nine games against big 10 teams. And you have to play them week in and week out, you just eat each other alive. Preach.

• 1:49:38Speaker 01

  And I think that there is a very realistic possibility that like the Michigans, the USC's, all these teams, they're probably going to end up with three losses. And I don't know if they're going to have the overall strength of schedule to get that at large bid. So at least they probably won't campaign and beg for it as loudly as other conferences will. Penn State could trip into only two losses. See that's, yeah, they, their schedule is like, as we discussed earlier, like scheduling plays a huge factor into how things work.

• 1:50:05Speaker 01

  Penn State could take advantage of it. We will see. I still don't know if they have the depth of talent to really be a playoff team. And to not screw up or trip up in one of those games. Cause that's, they have to be perfect.

• 1:50:16Speaker 00

  They also, they do have three tough games. It's not like they have one tough.

• 1:50:18Speaker 01

  But I'm saying they have to be perfect in those games. If they go two and one, or maybe even one and two.

• 1:50:23Speaker 00

  This, this isn't an Indiana schedule from two years ago. This is, this is a schedule, it's kind of a couple of places they could trip up.

• 1:50:29Speaker 01

  For sure. All right. So then, so you're saying no, no fourth team of that group. I don't think they get a fourth in, but of those teams, I would. Who are you the highest on? God, USC schedule is so tough. It's really hard to say.

• 1:50:41Speaker 00

  Well, clarified question I want to ask for this was you're, let's say one of those three teams doesn't make it. Who replaces them? Because we're, we're assuming all three of those are just.

• 1:50:50Speaker 01

  Well, if one of those three teams, if one of those three teams doesn't make it, I bet it's USC getting in because USC has knocked them off somewhere. Okay. Yeah. Knocked them out because that's the one thing that holds me back on the Trojans is their schedule. It's very difficult. It's going to be hard to imagine them getting through with only two losses and getting there. Although they do, they could be one of those teams that has an argument at nine and three, depending on who the nine are and how the three losses go. So I would look at the Trojans. They have a great quarterback coming back. They are very talented. Defensively, you saw some flashes on Saturday. Yeah, it was San Jose State, but they have very young, talented kids. They had a great recruiting class and a lot of them are seeing the field early. But that is one of another thing that concerns me in this modern era of college football where you tend to want to be older. You don't really want to be super young. So that could be a problem for them. Michigan.

• 1:51:33Speaker 02

  I'm not super high on Michigan. I was getting some blowback. I, I think Kyle Whittingham is an awesome, awesome coach. The, the coaching upgrade from Sharon Moore to Kyle Whittingham is enormous. I don't know. And, and maybe I'll look stupid and I'll, I'll have to put my hand up after week two, but I just don't know if Bryce Underwood, like he's got to take a step forward for them to be a playoff team in my mind.

• 1:51:55Speaker 00

  So yes, he does. But why have we grown to a place where we act like that's not possible? He was a five star.

• 1:52:01Speaker 02

  Of course it's possible. Of course.

• 1:52:03Speaker 00

  I'm not just saying you, I'm saying everybody.

• 1:52:04Speaker 02

  If he beats Oklahoma, I will absolutely be like, you know what? I was wrong. This is a legitimate national title contender.

• 1:52:11Speaker 00

  He was a five star quarterback that got thrown in the mix with zero coaching last year, zero leadership. I don't even know what that game plan was. They tried to roll him out with. It was, it was coaching malpractice, even before all the crap happened at the end of the year. He was fireable based on the way he used Bryce Underwood. So.

• 1:52:26Speaker 02

  And by the way, I know it was against lesser competition, but Biff Poji did a better job with Bryce Underwood than Sharon Moore did.

• 1:52:32Speaker 00

  Now we go, and now, now he has a full off season with an actual coaching staff. Uh, I do believe defensively, they're going to, they're going to be very good. Like I, I hate it. I don't like it. I'm coming around to be higher on Michigan now than I was like two weeks ago. As I realized, like, I think we've thrown Bryce Underwood out and that's not fair.

• 1:52:47Speaker 02

  Sucking up to Dave.

• 1:52:48Speaker 00

  Not sucking up to Dave.

• 1:52:49Speaker 01

  The concern I have, like, it's his second offense that he had to learn in two years. So it's basically another freshman season.

• 1:52:55Speaker 00

  But at least he has a teacher this time.

• 1:52:56Speaker 01

  Oh, for sure. For sure.

• 1:52:56Speaker 02

  I would say maybe fourth offense that he's had to learn because it did feel like for most of the season, it was week to week. What they were going to have him run and then Poji comes instead of three and now he got four.

• 1:53:07Speaker 01

  Yeah. I, I, it's, we could see a slow start. So them having those games early, that Oklahoma game early in the year could be a problem. I do believe if you look at the talent, there's obviously, if he does hit and reach his potential, he's a very good player. I wonder if they're going to use him more as a rushing threat this year than they were last year. You look at Jason Beck, the offensive coordinator that's come in with Kyle Whittingham. That is definitely something that's been a part of what he's done with his offenses. So I, I expect we will see it. My other primary concern about Michigan, like when you think of the Harbaugh teams that were winning the conference, that were beating Ohio State, that were winning a national title.

• 1:53:41Speaker 00

  Cheating.

• 1:53:42Speaker 01

  Besides cheating.

• 1:53:44Speaker 00

  Oh, I thought that's where you.

• 1:53:44Speaker 01

  No, no.

• 1:53:45Speaker 02

  I was saying that.

• 1:53:46Speaker 01

  The NFL draft would come around and there would be a ton of dudes from that Michigan defense that were getting picked early in the draft. I don't know if this current defense has those dudes and it's hard to be a great team in a playoff caliber team without more dudes on defense. So I, I'll happily be proven wrong, but I just don't know based on what I've seen now that they have them.

• 1:54:05Speaker 02

  And they have a tough schedule. Oklahoma, Iowa, Penn State, and then they got to go in Indiana, all at home. They got to go to Oregon. They got to go to Ohio State. Like that's.

• 1:54:14Speaker 01

  There are no easy schedules.

• 1:54:16Speaker 02

  If you go three and three there, it's going to be very tough.

• 1:54:18Speaker 00

  You're going to bring Penn State up again?

• 1:54:20Speaker 01

  Well, there's one easy school. Texas A&M had an easy schedule. Okay. So there's one easy schedule in each league, every year.

• 1:54:25Speaker 02

  Yeah. Uh, is Illinois's new scoreboard too big?

• 1:54:30Speaker 01

  You know what? The most fascinating part of that scoreboard for me is what it is going to do to the kicking game. Because wind has come in through that stadium and made it very difficult. It's very soldier fieldish where it's hard to kick field goals in that stadium. If you're not familiar with the wind patterns. Now they've put this giant scoreboard up that's on top of the South end zone that is going to affect that. I want to know how that's going to impact the team if that's going to hurt them. Cause you know, Illinois won a lot of games late with field goals. It could be a big deal.

• 1:54:55Speaker 02

  Yes, Brandon.

• 1:54:55Speaker 00

  Is this what the trophy gets you? We're just spending time talking about the Illinois kicking game?

• 1:54:59Speaker 02

  Oh, yes.

• 1:54:59Speaker 00

  We're talking about the damn Illinois kicking game?

• 1:55:01Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 1:55:02Speaker 00

  The damn Illinois kicking game?

• 1:55:03Speaker 02

  All right. Give us, all right.

• 1:55:05Speaker 00

  We're talking about the Illinois kicking game, guys.

• 1:55:06Speaker 01

  I gave you a Chick-fil-A gift card and a hundred dollars and that's how you're going to treat my trophy? I should take it back. I should, but I'm too big.

• 1:55:14Speaker 00

  Probably had Mark Tice's name on it like an hour ago. Just scratched it off.

• 1:55:17Speaker 02

  I was just curious about.

• 1:55:18Speaker 01

  A D1 athlete, Mark Tice.

• 1:55:20Speaker 02

  Scoreboards are getting too big. That was, that was my overall point that there's, you reach a, a limit with how big it can be as, as an addition.

• 1:55:27Speaker 00

  So we should Buffalo Bills the whole time?

• 1:55:28Speaker 02

  Yeah, a little bit. And now if you want to talk about what they should do in the kicking game with scoreboard, if it's super high definition, they should put like fake uprights with the wind and the flags blowing in directions that it's not blowing in. And just fuck with the kicker's head because kickers are dumb.

• 1:55:43Speaker 01

  Now, if you're going to ask me if I'd rather that money went to the roster.

• 1:55:45Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:55:46Speaker 01

  I'm going to say yes.

• 1:55:47Speaker 02

  I would never ask you that.

• 1:55:48Speaker 01

  No, but yeah.

• 1:55:49Speaker 02

  That'd be much more relevant to this conversation. Who's the big 10 team that could crash the party?

• 1:55:54Speaker 01

  Illinois.

• 1:55:55Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:55:56Speaker 00

  Okay. All right.

• 1:55:57Speaker 02

  Okay. Yeah. No interest. Go off.

• 1:55:58Speaker 01

  I think that you look at what they did at the quarterback situation. I, Luke Altmeier is very, very difficult to replace. Luke Altmeier was very good for that team. He won a lot of games, a lot of fourth quarter drives. Starkville, Mississippi native who went to Ole Miss instead of Mississippi State and then went to Illinois. Real smart coaching staff you had there.

• 1:56:16Speaker 00

  Oh yeah. You're the smartest of the great Mike Leach.

• 1:56:18Speaker 01

  Yeah. Yeah.

• 1:56:18Speaker 00

  That's what you're doing? Dead man's coach died.

• 1:56:20Speaker 01

  You know what? Maybe, maybe he'd still be alive if he'd gotten Luke Altmeier.

• 1:56:24Speaker 00

  I don't think so.

• 1:56:25Speaker 02

  Although his dad is a doctor. Now, yeah, Tom's back on top. Good point.

• 1:56:29Speaker 00

  Luke Altmeier killed Mike Leach, is what you just said.

• 1:56:31Speaker 01

  I, listen, there, I'm not going to get into that. You know, we don't want to start any conspiracies, but I'm not, not saying it.

• 1:56:37Speaker 02

  Illinois also doesn't have to play Wisconsin.

• 1:56:39Speaker 01

  Don't have to play Wisconsin. They did beat them. Just overwhelmed them, their offensive line late last year in the cold, cold weather. But Kaiten Hauser comes in East Carolina. I, I believe he's a very similar player to Luke Altmeier. I also believe he is more of a downfield threat with his arm that could open up a part of that Illini offense that we haven't seen yet. And it's been a very impactful and effective Illinois offense the last few years. Defensively are where the questions are. They are changing their scheme, or at least they're, they're not changing the scheme as much as they're changing their approach with the scheme, but they're going to probably be far more aggressive, which could lead to some problems. But if things click, this is a team that has won a lot of games in the big 10 in recent years, who I feel like is just being completely ignored for that. And they're kind of just being pushed to the side because everybody's looking at him and saying, well, they've got a new quarterback, a new defense, whatever. They're going to go back to being Illinois.

• 1:57:24Speaker 01

  I don't think they're ever going back to being what Illinois used to be. That doesn't mean they're going to win nine, 10 games every year. But I still believe that if you look at what they've done on that roster, the talent upgrade, the coaching upgrade that they've had, and just the investment that they've put into it. It's not the Indiana investment that they've had and the immediate changes we've seen. It's been a slower progress, but I think it's a program that is building. So if things click, they've got a schedule that compared to other big 10 teams, not as difficult. There is a path for them to get to 10 and two. And if they get to 10 and two, and you're a big 10 team, you're in the playoff conversation.

• 1:57:57Speaker 02

  Uh huh. What about a, a little school known as Iowa? You think they could crash the party?

• 1:58:02Speaker 01

  Yes, I'm not as confident.

• 1:58:03Speaker 00

  They got to get a quarterback. Is their quarterback is my question.

• 1:58:06Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:58:06Speaker 00

  Uh, I, I have one that can crash the top and one that can crash the middle. The one that can crash the top is Washington. Washington's got a lot of people coming out there, man. They got a lot of teams that have to go through Washington. That's not a fun trip for, that wasn't a fun trip for pack 12 schools to go up there. Now Michigan, you got, or at big 10, you gotta go all the way out there. With the quarterback, if they can show there's harmony, because he, he didn't want to be there.

• 1:58:28Speaker 02

  Or at least he wanted to go discover.

• 1:58:30Speaker 01

  There were a couple of days he didn't want to be there.

• 1:58:31Speaker 00

  He wanted, he wanted to go test out that LSU money and see how deep it was. Uh, but they talked him back into the building. They got him back. They held him hostage and now he's there. If they're happy and good. He's as dynamic a quarterback as there is in the conference and they're going to be tough to beat out there. Now I got one that crashed the middle coming up from the bottom.

• 1:58:48Speaker 00

  Maryland.

• 1:58:49Speaker 01

  Oh yeah.

• 1:58:49Speaker 00

  You want to talk about dynamic quarterbacks? Talk about Malik Washington. Like I, I think everybody assumes like the Rutgers, Maryland, they're going to be at the bottom. I think you could look up and Maryland's won six, seven, eight games and they're like, oh wow, they're here. They're kind of here and they could affect somebody. So those are my two in the big 10 that maybe nobody sees coming.

• 1:59:06Speaker 01

  Very much on board with the Maryland call.

• 1:59:08Speaker 02

  That would have been fun.

• 1:59:09Speaker 00

  Well, I just figured you were going to say it.

• 1:59:11Speaker 02

  No, I mean, I, I don't know. I, it's an easy schedule. Defense is going to be really good.

• 1:59:16Speaker 01

  We'll see.

• 1:59:16Speaker 02

  Colton Joseph, can he, can he stay healthy? Cause we've lost every quarterback in the last three years.

• 1:59:20Speaker 01

  Can you at least get three games out of your quarterback this year before he falls apart? Yeah.

• 1:59:25Speaker 02

  Crash the middle. I like that. Yeah. I think Wisconsin could crash the middle.

• 1:59:28Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:59:29Speaker 01

  I think Wisconsin's going to get to a bowl.

• 1:59:31Speaker 02

  Yeah, I do too.

• 1:59:31Speaker 01

  I don't know if I'd consider them.

• 1:59:33Speaker 02

  Seven, I, I expect eight wins would be like, all right, now we're going back in the right direction. Seven, you'd have to show me who we lost.

• 1:59:39Speaker 00

  But I don't consider Wisconsin to be at the bottom.

• 1:59:42Speaker 02

  I know the last couple of years.

• 1:59:44Speaker 00

  I know they've been, they've been dabbling, but they're just visitors. They're not, they're not like permanent residents.

• 1:59:47Speaker 02

  It's Wisconsin season. I, I know you don't want to put it on one game, but like, it actually is like, cause I always, I always said this, like, I'm realistic. Like we're, we're going to beat Ohio State once every 15 years. You can't lose like 44, nothing to Iowa. That's where you have to mark yourself against. And so that will be a, a big moment of like.

• 2:00:06Speaker 01

  Beat Illinois.

• 2:00:07Speaker 02

  Yeah. Beat Illinois. When are the team crashed the middle? UCLA? Maybe that's by the way, the, now that I'm thinking about it, the start of the downside was actually the loss to.

• 2:00:16Speaker 01

  Illinois with Paul Chris and then maybe beating Illinois last year was the start of the beginning. Completes the circle. We're back to where we were.

• 2:00:23Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 2:00:24Speaker 00

  So are you just beholden to guys that stop through Harrisonburg for the rest of your life?

• 2:00:28Speaker 02

  Exactly. No.

• 2:00:29Speaker 00

  So for the rest of your life, if they stop at JMU, you're gonna say they're gonna crash.

• 2:00:33Speaker 01

  You know what you need to do? You need to go stop at JMU. Just visit.

• 2:00:38Speaker 00

  I've been to Harrisonburg. They have a great Chick-fil-A across the road.

• 2:00:40Speaker 01

  Be like, yeah, Brandon Walker's next up. Take your gift card.

• 2:00:43Speaker 00

  They were there. I've been there many. I did a, I did a walk the line. I did a walk the line from there in 2019.

• 2:00:47Speaker 02

  Walk the line from Virginia?

• 2:00:49Speaker 00

  I did a walk the line from the stadium parking lot. Yeah. Chick-fil-A right across from the stadium. And then you drive past on I-81, you look over, you see this big, beautiful stadium like, oh my God, who plays there? You keep driving, you see the other half, like, oh, oh, okay. That's nothing.

• 2:01:01Speaker 02

  Oh, you don't like the, the.

• 2:01:03Speaker 00

  The half stadium. It's a half stadium. It's a half stadium.

• 2:01:06Speaker 02

  It's a half city. It's split, it's split by highway. No, I do think that there's something, I, I should, I think it's a smart thing to want our coaches to have immediate success after they leave.

• 2:01:15Speaker 00

  How's it help you?

• 2:01:16Speaker 02

  Well, we got Bob Chesney.

• 2:01:18Speaker 00

  Yeah, but now look who you got.

• 2:01:20Speaker 02

  Sun Belt Billy.

• 2:01:21Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 2:01:21Speaker 02

  You just said, he built this Florida roster to a point where they could compete in the SEC. So, uh, yeah, no, I, it is, I think it's a good thing to root for a guy as soon as he leaves.

• 2:01:31Speaker 00

  Sure.

• 2:01:32Speaker 02

  The reality of the situation is there's no, there's never gonna be a coach that goes to JMU and says, okay, this is where I want to be for life. And if there is, that's probably a coach that you would not want to hire to be the JMU.

• 2:01:40Speaker 00

  So I hate a guy when they leave.

• 2:01:42Speaker 02

  Yeah, well, that's because you.

• 2:01:43Speaker 01

  So do you hate Mike Leach?

• 2:01:45Speaker 00

  He didn't leave.

• 2:01:46Speaker 02

  Good point.

• 2:01:47Speaker 01

  He left. He ain't around.

• 2:01:48Speaker 00

  He didn't leave.

• 2:01:49Speaker 02

  Theoretically, Brandon, you should be above being a stepping stone. You're a, you're a.

• 2:01:55Speaker 00

  That's why I hate him. Yeah, I hate him.

• 2:01:56Speaker 02

  Yeah, so I'm not. I'm a stepping stone. So I want to be the best stepping stone.

• 2:01:59Speaker 00

  Okay, fair enough.

• 2:02:00Speaker 02

  That's, that's my theory.

• 2:02:01Speaker 00

  Fair enough.

• 2:02:01Speaker 02

  But I, maybe it's just the Mikey Volcano talk that we had.

• 2:02:04Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:02:05Speaker 02

  Uh, has Liam gotten in your ear about that?

• 2:02:07Speaker 01

  Special. No.

• 2:02:08Speaker 00

  What?

• 2:02:09Speaker 01

  They've got a guy. They got a, they got a, a version of Big Dom.

• 2:02:12Speaker 02

  They got a guy and, and he's, he's so kept under wraps. I had no idea about the guy when he was at JMU.

• 2:02:18Speaker 00

  His name's Mikey Volcano.

• 2:02:19Speaker 01

  Uh, Volcano.

• 2:02:20Speaker 02

  Volcano.

• 2:02:21Speaker 01

  Oh, oh, so he's a paisan. Yeah.

• 2:02:23Speaker 02

  I call him Mikey Volcano.

• 2:02:24Speaker 01

  Big Dom.

• 2:02:25Speaker 02

  And his job is, um, ambiguous, to say the best. He just, he's a guy that they have hanging out.

• 2:02:31Speaker 01

  That's actually, Italians like really specialize in being ambiguous about what we do. Just being guys. Yeah.

• 2:02:36Speaker 00

  So if I were doing a live show in the parking lot today, I'd have to look out for Mikey Volcano?

• 2:02:41Speaker 01

  Well, no, he would probably be the one to set you up.

• 2:02:43Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 2:02:44Speaker 02

  No, yeah, I'm not saying he'd be a threat to you. No, no. And quite the, the opposite. I think he'd be like your best friend. He'd take good care of you.

• 2:02:50Speaker 01

  I.

• 2:02:50Speaker 02

  And it'd be a real shame if anything happened to you.

• 2:02:52Speaker 01

  UCLA's got a chance to be good.

• 2:02:55Speaker 00

  Right back into it.

• 2:02:56Speaker 01

  I don't, I don't know if they're going to be a playoff contender. I, I do believe that there is a little too much just, well, Sig did it. Get the next James Madison coach and then it's gonna just completely vault. But like, I, Nico Iamilaava is a good quarterback who's been in really bad situations. And last year, that was a horrible situation for him to be in, like talking about Bryce Underwood and thinking like, you know, eventually a five star might figure it out. So if he's able to figure it out in an offense that could be suited to his strengths compared to what they were doing last year. And defensively, they've brought in some good guys from James Madison. Sahir West is a kid I don't think a ton of people know of, who's a pretty good player, who I think has a chance to be one of the better defensive end pass rusher types in the Big Ten. Like, there is room for UCLA to grow. I just don't think that's more than an eight win team, even if things go completely well.

• 2:03:41Speaker 02

  They'd be crashing the middle.

• 2:03:42Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:03:42Speaker 02

  Perfectly.

• 2:03:42Speaker 01

  Big Ten Heismans. Obviously Jeremiah.

• 2:03:47Speaker 00

  Dante Moore.

• 2:03:48Speaker 01

  Dante Moore. Do you think though, do you think a receiver will win? I mean, I know Devante won a few years ago.

• 2:03:52Speaker 00

  It can come around every now and then.

• 2:03:53Speaker 01

  I don't know.

• 2:03:55Speaker 00

  Especially because Ohio State's gonna be in so many big games.

• 2:03:58Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 2:03:58Speaker 00

  Jeremiah Smith goes down to Texas and has 12 catches and three touchdowns. He's the early leader. Like, if he just keeps showing up in these big games, I think Jeremiah Smith 100% can win the Heisman.

• 2:04:08Speaker 01

  Okay. Well, if we want to go narratives, we're discussing it. What if Bryce Underwood figures it out? Yeah, that's a good one. Like a value play right now.

• 2:04:14Speaker 00

  You have to go narratives when talking to Heisman.

• 2:04:16Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Uh, all right. ACC including Notre Dame.

• 2:04:21Speaker 00

  Sure. Why?

• 2:04:22Speaker 01

  So they have two good teams. Yeah, yeah. He's got two good teams.

• 2:04:25Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:04:25Speaker 01

  They did that whole like Notre Dame, you know, when they played in the ACC national, or championship. Went undefeated.

• 2:04:31Speaker 00

  I mean, the two best teams in the ACC do play this year.

• 2:04:33Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:04:33Speaker 00

  Miami at Notre Dame.

• 2:04:35Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:04:35Speaker 00

  Um, I mean, I think Miami's just, of the seven national title teams, I've got Miami in, in that group. I think they're, they're that good. Although I do think Louisville has a chance to be a, to, to be a playoff team with that schedule they have. Uh, by September 19th, you're gonna know. If they were to pick off Ole Miss and then beat SMU in week three, they're almost a lock at that point.

• 2:04:53Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm. I don't know if I would call them a lock, but yeah.

• 2:04:55Speaker 00

  I'd say almost a lock, Tom.

• 2:04:57Speaker 01

  I wouldn't, I don't know if I'd say almost a lock.

• 2:04:59Speaker 00

  You could say almost a lock.

• 2:05:00Speaker 01

  SMU might, SMU might finish seven and five and like the end of November, beating SMU might not mean shit.

• 2:05:05Speaker 02

  You ever try to protect your house with almost a lock? It doesn't work.

• 2:05:07Speaker 01

  Yeah, you're also not allowed to say the L word.

• 2:05:09Speaker 00

  I said almost a lock.

• 2:05:11Speaker 01

  You said the L word again.

• 2:05:13Speaker 00

  You can't say almost the L word?

• 2:05:14Speaker 02

  Almost doesn't start with the letter L. It starts with the letter A, Brandon. You should know that.

• 2:05:18Speaker 01

  Okay, so Miami's just better than everyone.

• 2:05:21Speaker 00

  Sure.

• 2:05:21Speaker 01

  And Notre Dame, Notre Dame is really, really, really good.

• 2:05:24Speaker 00

  Smoking good.

• 2:05:24Speaker 01

  Is there anyone in the ACC that we should pay attention to? I mean, UNC is 1-0. You should pay attention to SMU. You should pay attention to Louisville. You should pay attention to Virginia Tech.

• 2:05:33Speaker 00

  Oh, what about Virginia?

• 2:05:34Speaker 01

  Virginia, yeah, Virgi, yes. They're already 1-0. Then Bro Prabula looked, or I'm sorry, it can't, it's Max Brown, if you're listening, Bro Prabula, Prabule, Prabuya. Like, he says it's 55 different ways during a game on Saturday. That's a great way. But yes, he's, we talked about it on your show. When like Prabu, Prabuya, Prabule, Privula was one of the more underrated kind of guys. He was very good at Missouri last year before he got hurt and then he was very ineffective the rest of the season. That Virginia defensively, we saw what they were able to do. That, that's a very good team, but it's just, there isn't a great team or even a very good team, I don't believe, in the ACC after Miami.

• 2:06:13Speaker 00

  No.

• 2:06:13Speaker 01

  So there are a lot of teams who could cycle up and have a great season and finish in that nine, 10 win range. It's just trying to figure out which one it's gonna be. The only thing I'm really confident in is, is like, it's not gonna be Boston College. It could be any number of others.

• 2:06:27Speaker 00

  The ceiling for those teams is SMU a couple of years ago. You, you get to the playoff, you, you take your loss like a man and get out there. Like that, that's the ceiling for Louisville and SMU and Virginia and all those teams. But that ceiling does exist.

• 2:06:38Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm. Virginia Tech is the one truly interesting team to me, though. Wouldn't that be crazy if James Franklin finally broke through?

• 2:06:45Speaker 00

  It would be.

• 2:06:45Speaker 02

  Well, for him, it's like.

• 2:06:46Speaker 01

  The year that you don't.

• 2:06:47Speaker 00

  I just can't get there with Gronk and Meyer.

• 2:06:48Speaker 01

  Now.

• 2:06:49Speaker 00

  I like Gronk.

• 2:06:50Speaker 01

  I don't.

• 2:06:50Speaker 00

  Oh, well, we disagree.

• 2:06:51Speaker 02

  For James Franklin, the big one.

• 2:06:53Speaker 01

  One of us is the number one college football expert.

• 2:06:55Speaker 00

  And I, I.

• 2:06:57Speaker 02

  The big one has become just beating UVA.

• 2:06:59Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:07:00Speaker 02

  That is the new Ohio State.

• 2:07:01Speaker 01

  And that's like.

• 2:07:02Speaker 02

  And he can manage that.

• 2:07:03Speaker 01

  Look at their schedule. How many top five teams you see on it right now? They have Ohio State? No, I think they play Miami and that's it. So like, they're, like, James Franklin's problem has always been beating top five teams. I don't think there are any on the schedule anymore. Yeah.

• 2:07:16Speaker 00

  No, and I, and I think there's also something to getting a hungry James Franklin, a Franklin that got, you know, two years, two years ago, they were a, a bad pick by their quarterback from playing for a national championship. It was 24-24 with a minute left. They had the ball. And then they, the, the quarterback blows it for him. And then five, less than five games later, James Franklin is out. That's got to put a fire in his belly that maybe hasn't been there. Well, the fire's probably always been there, but now he's got a chance to, to reinvigorate a program on, in his own, uh, you know, in his own manner after being pissed off.

• 2:07:48Speaker 01

  Is that, is like, is it James Franklin's fault or is it your fault? Cause like last year, you're sitting on this couch talking about how Penn State is.

• 2:07:54Speaker 00

  I liked them, man.

• 2:07:55Speaker 01

  Yeah, you're picking them as like a national title contender. I tried to warn you. I tried to say, but Brandon, they lost their best player on offense and they lost their best player on defense.

• 2:08:02Speaker 02

  Thank you for doing that, Tom.

• 2:08:02Speaker 01

  You didn't care. You just rambled right through and you put all these high expectations on James Franklin. Bam. Now he's the coach of Virginia Tech. So you killed Mike Leach and now you killed James Franklin.

• 2:08:10Speaker 00

  Who was the best player on offense they had lost?

• 2:08:12Speaker 01

  Uh, Tyler Warren. He's a tight end. Maybe you've heard of him. He plays for Colts now.

• 2:08:14Speaker 00

  But coming into, coming into last year, coming into last year, let's just be, I mean, those running backs were very appealing. Singleton and the other guy.

• 2:08:22Speaker 01

  Maybe, like, I'm not gonna dog Nick Singleton and K. Tron Allen, but I don't think they were superstars.

• 2:08:27Speaker 00

  We thought going in, they were superstars.

• 2:08:29Speaker 01

  You thought going in, they were superstars.

• 2:08:31Speaker 00

  Pretty common. It's a pretty common thing.

• 2:08:33Speaker 01

  You also thought Clemson was gonna be good too, right? You picked them.

• 2:08:36Speaker 02

  He did.

• 2:08:37Speaker 01

  I did, yeah. What, what round did I pick them in?

• 2:08:39Speaker 02

  First, like, cause you talked them up so much.

• 2:08:41Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:08:41Speaker 00

  No, everybody, everybody, everybody took a lot of losses last year with teams like Clemson, with teams like LSU, with teams like Penn State. Last year, last year was brutal. I didn't see the collapse coming from Penn State. I thought Franklin was a solid, uh, program guy that wasn't gonna bottom out like that. He bottomed out.

• 2:08:56Speaker 02

  Drew Aller, 6'5", 245.

• 2:08:57Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:08:58Speaker 02

  You mentioned, you mentioned Clemson. Haven't talked about Clemson yet.

• 2:09:01Speaker 00

  No.

• 2:09:02Speaker 01

  Nor should we.

• 2:09:03Speaker 00

  Where, I'm fine not talking about them.

• 2:09:05Speaker 02

  Are they, are they that overlookable?

• 2:09:07Speaker 01

  They're not, they're not overlookable.

• 2:09:10Speaker 00

  Just the ceiling's not there anymore.

• 2:09:11Speaker 01

  But yeah, like, too much, one of the things we need to learn how to do is to reevaluate what history means in this sport. Like, it used to be you could just look and say, this school's done this. This school's gonna keep doing this because that's who they are. But the NIL and the transfer portal have changed a whole hell of a lot about what history actually means going forward. And Clemson in the NIL portal era has been a mediocre ACC team. I think they've, they're like 17 and 12 or 14 in ACC play the last three years. They are an average football team. They're not a bad football team, but the era of them competing for national titles, unless Dabo changes and starts really embracing the things that have happened in this sport, I think it's done.

• 2:09:52Speaker 01

  And they might go eight and four this year. Hell, they might go nine and three because again, the ACC, once you get past Miami, is a whole hell of a lot of shrugging and I don't really. Know what's going to happen. So I can't rule out that they're going to have a good season. But Clemson is not the team that won national titles anymore. They're just not.

• 2:10:07Speaker 00

  No.

• 2:10:07Speaker 02

  Yeah. It's really ever since Sweeney did that Tik Tok.

• 2:10:11Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:10:11Speaker 02

  Which one? That was like the mark.

• 2:10:13Speaker 00

  Dickery, dickery, doc.

• 2:10:14Speaker 02

  Yeah. The mouse went up the clock. Coach Sweeney's got that drip and now he's on Tik Tok.

• 2:10:19Speaker 00

  Didn't watch that one in a while.

• 2:10:21Speaker 02

  Ever since that, yeah, that's, that's really the point where it all went downhill for Clemson. Uh, question, I am high, just like everyone else on Notre Dame. Is there any reason not to be?

• 2:10:30Speaker 00

  I don't think so.

• 2:10:31Speaker 02

  They're fucking loaded. I think Marcus Freeman's a stud of a coach. I love CJ Carr. I think they're going to unfortunately kick the shit out of Wisconsin in a few days. What's, what's not to like? Cause now they also like, you could have made the argument, oh, well their schedule's easy, but if they lose two games again and one of them's to BYU. But now they have the new rule.

• 2:10:51Speaker 01

  Yeah, but I don't know if they would finish in the top 12 with that schedule.

• 2:10:54Speaker 02

  But yeah, the BYU game will be the biggest game because that would be the potential, if that was a second loss, that could be the potential, hey, BYU's right in the same neighborhood as you.

• 2:11:02Speaker 01

  The, if I'm a Notre Dame fan, the only thing I am concerned about is that college football is funny and it would be very funny if Notre Dame lost a couple of games wasn't supposed to and they missed out. But you look at the roster, that they're one of the best teams in the country. If they don't make the playoff this year, it is genuinely one of the biggest surprises of the season. I don't know. It's, there's just, there's not, the schedule is, they should be winning most of those games by 20 some odd points. And that BYU game, like no offense to BYU, we'll get to the big 12 here in a little bit, I'm sure, but.

• 2:11:30Speaker 00

  Oh no, we're not doing that.

• 2:11:31Speaker 01

  Okay. Well, we fly, fly over country. We don't need to talk about that league. But like when BYU got to play Texas Tech, they didn't really look nearly as good as they did in all their other games and Notre Dame's quite a bit better than Texas Tech.

• 2:11:44Speaker 02

  Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

• 2:11:45Speaker 00

  Yeah, no. And plus the, what's the one concern? They're replacing their running backs. It's the most replaceable position on the field and I know they were great, but they're, they're, they're, I think the weapons they have out wide and then the quarterback and then the defense, you know, they, they got the best player in the country on defense.

• 2:11:59Speaker 01

  In fact, it is, there's not going to be much point to watching Notre Dame games during the regular season. Like Notre Dame is going to have like a two game regular season and then you're just going to turn them off until the playoffs start.

• 2:12:08Speaker 00

  Yeah. They had a two game regular season last year and they figured out they were losing both.

• 2:12:12Speaker 01

  And then how many of them did you watch from that point on?

• 2:12:14Speaker 00

  The USC game, that's probably about it.

• 2:12:15Speaker 02

  All right. So. They also have a shitload of, uh, former NFL players' sons.

• 2:12:19Speaker 01

  Mm hmm.

• 2:12:19Speaker 02

  On that roster. They've got Jerome Bettis.

• 2:12:21Speaker 01

  Bloodlines.

• 2:12:22Speaker 02

  Yeah. Uh, Larry Fitzgerald's son. Um, yes, yes, Brandon? Earl Lacker's son.

• 2:12:27Speaker 00

  He said bloodline. I had to, sorry.

• 2:12:29Speaker 01

  What?

• 2:12:30Speaker 02

  Earl Lacker's son transferred.

• 2:12:31Speaker 01

  Kennedy is at USC now.

• 2:12:32Speaker 02

  Wait, wait, Brandon, you raised your hand for what reason?

• 2:12:34Speaker 01

  He keeps raising his fucking hand. He thinks we're in class.

• 2:12:36Speaker 02

  Guys, guys, it's a bloodline. You say bloodline, you gotta do this.

• 2:12:40Speaker 01

  Why?

• 2:12:41Speaker 02

  Because it's the fucking bloodline. It's Roman Reigns. Shit. You say bloodline, you gotta do this.

• 2:12:45Speaker 01

  Oh, you should start a wrestling podcast.

• 2:12:48Speaker 02

  I'll kick you right in the chin. Okay. I thought that was a Mississippi thing where if you're talking about bloodlines, it's always got to be singular. Yeah. Just one.

• 2:12:56Speaker 00

  That wasn't even funny.

• 2:12:58Speaker 02

  It was pretty funny. Make that to a quote card.

• 2:13:01Speaker 01

  You guys are inbred.

• 2:13:02Speaker 02

  It's very funny. Elijah Burris, Plaxico Burris's son. They've got just like a lot of former players on that roster. They're, they're children. So, um, I don't know. There, there have been those moments though with Notre Dame. It's like they, they blow it in games that they very easily should win somehow.

• 2:13:16Speaker 01

  I should use this hand with this ring. You bring up a good point. Something just dawned on me. If they've got the sons of a bunch of NFL players. How hungry are they? A lot of kids raised by privilege. Do they want it enough? That could be the one that if, if Notre Dame misses the playoff, it's because those players weren't hard enough on their sons.

• 2:13:33Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's true. Then it's about society.

• 2:13:35Speaker 00

  Point I've ever heard.

• 2:13:36Speaker 02

  All right. So wait.

• 2:13:37Speaker 01

  Welcome to pardon my take.

• 2:13:38Speaker 02

  Car and Darian Mensah, those are my Heisman. I, I actually like Darian Mensah.

• 2:13:41Speaker 00

  I like Darian Mensah a lot.

• 2:13:42Speaker 02

  Yeah. He's 11 to one, I think, right now.

• 2:13:44Speaker 00

  And CJ, CJ Carr to me is if we, we do.

• 2:13:47Speaker 02

  Notre Dame, yeah.

• 2:13:48Speaker 00

  Yeah. But if we do get in a situation where we're, we're very dismissive of their schedule and they're blowing teams out, is he going to have the moment?

• 2:13:53Speaker 02

  I think the quarterback, I mean, listen, uh, love almost got, you know, I mean, he was what? He finished third?

• 2:13:59Speaker 01

  Third, I think. Yeah.

• 2:14:00Speaker 02

  Like, and that was a two loss team and he didn't really do anything in those first two games. So I think Notre Dame always, when you talk about narratives.

• 2:14:08Speaker 00

  Fair enough.

• 2:14:08Speaker 02

  They want to vote for a Notre Dame player.

• 2:14:10Speaker 00

  Fair enough.

• 2:14:11Speaker 02

  Yeah. Uh, there's been some breaking news just while we've been doing this pod, or maybe just right before we start taping it. I want to hear your guys' reaction to this. Uh, the ongoing battle between LSU and the rest of the SEC. When it comes to whether or not they should be allowed to bring back players that went to the NFL for training camp and then came back to campus. This is Ross Dellinger that's reporting this right now. SEC school executives are exploring extreme measures to address LSU's plans, including boycotting competition, sanctioning the school with probation or expulsion and firing or filing a federal legal challenge.

• 2:14:47Speaker 01

  Good lord.

• 2:14:47Speaker 02

  The conversations within the conference are considered not league driven, but membership led. The 15 SEC university leaders are gathering over potential options to address the situation. One source said the conversations are serious.

• 2:15:02Speaker 00

  Well, these schools are tired of this bullshit.

• 2:15:04Speaker 01

  I wonder which, which, which membership school do you think was the first to bring this up?

• 2:15:07Speaker 00

  Gee, I don't know.

• 2:15:08Speaker 02

  Any idea? Any guesses out there?

• 2:15:10Speaker 01

  Um, I, listen, it's such a weird thing because as a purist, I don't want guys who have gone off to the NFL and have been in training camps, coming back to play on college football rosters. At the same time, I do feel that they kind of got screwed by the new ruling where the five for five, you get five years of eligibility. That doesn't get passed until after these guys had to make their decisions. So I understand where they're coming from. I also don't think it is an existential threat to the sport if they do come back. Because next year's class, it's not, they, they, they don't get the same benefit of the doubt. They knew the rules ahead of time, so they're done. So it would be a one time thing. So.

• 2:15:52Speaker 01

  I am appreciative of the fact that at least like with the big 10 doing it, and then the SEC and the ACC and big 12 following up, that the conferences are trying to take the power back and, and rule themselves. Instead of begging everybody else to figure it out for them and begging Congress to come up with some kind of thing to fix things. So if this is what they're trying to do to get LSU to like play along, cool. If it works, cool. I think it probably will, but I don't know.

• 2:16:15Speaker 02

  So this. Shout out to big 10 for being a leader in this.

• 2:16:18Speaker 00

  Well, yeah, but.

• 2:16:19Speaker 01

  The SEC did put out that statement about how they weren't.

• 2:16:21Speaker 00

  Right.

• 2:16:24Speaker 02

  Tom, they condemned.

• 2:16:25Speaker 01

  They did. The presidents in the, yeah, the presidents.

• 2:16:27Speaker 00

  We didn't pass the first rule. The SEC then followed, uh, then passed the rule, but it's the SEC where the team is actually doing it. The big 10 isn't being challenged right now.

• 2:16:34Speaker 02

  No.

• 2:16:35Speaker 00

  Uh, if the big 10 is being challenged in the court of law, like the SEC, the SEC is scared to death in the courts of law right now.

• 2:16:40Speaker 02

  All right. So this is another quote, I swear to God, this is real quote. Uh, an SEC school official to Yahoo sports just said, there are plenty of other schools who will take their place.

• 2:16:49Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's just, that's just Keith Carter at Ole Miss.

• 2:16:52Speaker 02

  Threatening to kick LSU out of the SEC.

• 2:16:54Speaker 01

  I, I would be very, very surprised if LSU gets kicked out of the SEC over any of this, but you know, you gotta, you gotta, you gotta bark a little bit, but, uh.

• 2:17:03Speaker 02

  People think that the Cajun Navy doesn't have ammunition. They do. And, uh, this would be, this would be a civil war. I think if you kicked LSU out of the SEC.

• 2:17:12Speaker 01

  First of all, the southeast has never seceded from anything. So I don't know why you would put that on them, but it's, I don't think it would be to the SEC's benefit to get rid of LSU. I, it, it, there's no chance in hell that in a sport that is that dominated by television revenue with the SEC is going to be like, let's get rid of LSU.

• 2:17:28Speaker 00

  They're just trying to scare them out of the fight. Nor to be, nor would it be beneficial to LSU to fight this hard for these guys.

• 2:17:33Speaker 01

  No, it's not. Yeah. Like, that's the thing. If these were guys coming back, they were like fucking huge game changer like types. So you're like, if we bring like, if Jaden Daniels is like, I'm coming back as long as you promised to retire my number five when it's done. Okay. Let's break some rules because that's going to really change. But this is like our second linebacker, you know, it's, it's not that big of a deal.

• 2:17:54Speaker 02

  Yeah. All right. Big 12, uh, Texas Tech is clearly the, the, the top.

• 2:17:59Speaker 00

  Sure.

• 2:18:00Speaker 02

  Mm hmm. Who could crash the party? I'll give you three teams. BYU.

• 2:18:04Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:18:05Speaker 02

  Houston.

• 2:18:06Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:18:06Speaker 01

  Kansas State.

• 2:18:08Speaker 02

  Oh, West Virginia was going to be my other one, but I like Kansas State.

• 2:18:10Speaker 00

  Oklahoma State.

• 2:18:11Speaker 02

  Oh, okay. Let's go. Discuss.

• 2:18:13Speaker 01

  I can't rule it out.

• 2:18:14Speaker 02

  Discuss, boys.

• 2:18:15Speaker 00

  So Oklahoma State finally got serious about the money, finally got serious about roster building, finally got serious about this new era of college football. Can they do it in one off season? Well, the quarterback's going to throw it all over the yard. The running back's going to run for a ton of yards.

• 2:18:25Speaker 02

  I love, I love mess maker.

• 2:18:27Speaker 00

  It's a conference where you can make some pretty quick moves and pretty, pretty, uh, pretty quick ascent up the, the ladder. How far will, will be left to be determined, but I think Oklahoma State is back to play big time ball in the big 12.

• 2:18:40Speaker 01

  My concern there is defensively, I, I don't know that they're going to be very good.

• 2:18:44Speaker 00

  Sure.

• 2:18:44Speaker 01

  Um, I, I like Kansas State. They did suffer an injury on the offensive line a couple of weeks ago that kind of caused me to slow down a little bit, but we discussed earlier, Colin Klein has left Texas A&M. He's come to Kansas State. He's come home. We know what he was able to do for Marcel Reed last year. If he's able to do that same thing for Avery Johnson, who's been a talented quarterback, who was a five star himself, that's a huge move. And also we talked about, what was one of the things Texas A&M took advantage of last year?

• 2:19:09Speaker 00

  Schedule.

• 2:19:10Speaker 01

  Look at Kansas State's schedule. You know what you don't see on there? You don't see Texas Tech. You don't see BYU. You don't even see Utah.

• 2:19:16Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:19:16Speaker 01

  They have a very friendly schedule. That's something that they could take advantage of. That can get them to, you know, Dallas for the big 12 championship. They could be the team that's playing Texas Tech there simply by default. And another team I would mention, they get dismissed too easily. He's been too good there. He's won too many games.

• 2:19:33Speaker 02

  Colorado.

• 2:19:34Speaker 01

  Oh. Arizona State.

• 2:19:36Speaker 02

  Okay. Yeah.

• 2:19:37Speaker 01

  I, I think Kenny Dillingham is a very good coach. Mississippi State loss aside. He's been, he's done a very, very good job with that program. I wouldn't be shocked if they have an ups, ups, upscale season.

• 2:19:49Speaker 00

  I like Houston too. I, I like Houston. And when you, when you talk about a, a conference that's as, um, you know, volatile as it, as it is throughout the big 12, when you have a good, solid coach and a good program builder though, and they're having to rely on the transfer portal a lot again this year, but he was, he nailed it last year. I think I like Houston a lot.

• 2:20:05Speaker 02

  Also Houston kind of gets to play it out in terms of the fact that they do get to play Texas Tech. Obviously they have to go to Texas Tech. But they get to play Oklahoma State. They get to play West Virginia. So they'll get to play it out in terms of the teams that are right, right in that like cluster.

• 2:20:20Speaker 01

  I love Willie Fritz. I'm just not a Connor Wegman guy. I love Willie, but I'm just not a Connor Wegman guy.

• 2:20:25Speaker 00

  I like him. He was fine last year.

• 2:20:27Speaker 02

  Willie Fritz is a really good coach.

• 2:20:28Speaker 01

  Willie Fritz is a great coach.

• 2:20:29Speaker 02

  Yeah. I was forgetting that UCF is in, in, uh, the big 12 now too.

• 2:20:32Speaker 00

  They're a little sneaky.

• 2:20:33Speaker 01

  I think UCF forgets that sometimes too.

• 2:20:35Speaker 00

  They were a little sneaky. They were better than people think last year, I think. And I like that. And they got a winner at quarterback.

• 2:20:39Speaker 02

  They do have a winner at quarterback. That's a fact. Crash in the middle.

• 2:20:42Speaker 01

  They're very good at home. On the road, they were an absolute mess.

• 2:20:45Speaker 02

  But Grinch's defense like wasn't shocking. Astronaut uniforms.

• 2:20:48Speaker 00

  Yeah. The Grinch's defense wasn't nearly as bad as, as Grinch's defense usually are.

• 2:20:53Speaker 01

  Low bar to clear.

• 2:20:54Speaker 00

  Yeah, but I, I just think they're, it's a conference where it's so volatile past, uh, Texas Tech. Anything can happen.

• 2:21:00Speaker 01

  It's like the ACC. You really don't know.

• 2:21:03Speaker 02

  Any, any Heismans in the, in the big 12?

• 2:21:07Speaker 02

  Toughest.

• 2:21:08Speaker 00

  Mestamaker. I mean, if Mestamaker throws for 5,000 yards and they and they win nine or 10 games, I think he's in the conversation.

• 2:21:15Speaker 01

  I don't think they're in enough big games, though, to get that kind of attention nationally.

• 2:21:18Speaker 00

  Maybe not, but they play they play Oregon early. What if they if they give Oregon a run?

• 2:21:21Speaker 01

  I'm saying, like, if you look at the history, if you look at the history of the Big 12, like, all the Heisman winners were typically from Texas, Oklahoma, and Nebraska. They're not there anymore.

• 2:21:30Speaker 02

  That's a fact. I'm looking at Oklahoma State's schedule right now. They have that Oregon game.

• 2:21:34Speaker 01

  I'm just, this is, was Barry Sanders the last Heisman winner from that league that wasn't one of the main schools?

• 2:21:40Speaker 02

  I'll say this, Brandon. I mean.

• 2:21:42Speaker 00

  No, RG3.

• 2:21:43Speaker 01

  There you go. Good call.

• 2:21:44Speaker 02

  November, November 14th, they host Texas Tech. That that could be a Heisman game.

• 2:21:51Speaker 00

  Like, especially about they're gonna be throwing it all over the yard. If they were able to get Texas Tech in a shootout with Texas Tech's quarterback issues, you know, either an injured Will Hammond or Castellanos, like, Texas Tech is more of a more this year.

• 2:22:02Speaker 02

  Is Castellanos gonna be on Texas Tech?

• 2:22:04Speaker 01

  They are bringing him in to be the backup.

• 2:22:06Speaker 02

  Which is actually a big deal because Texas Tech is loaded and the question was, now that you lost Sorsby, you don't have a backup.

• 2:22:13Speaker 01

  Yeah, and Castellanos, like, for all the problems Florida State had last year, I thought Castellanos was as advertised. He was exactly who he was supposed to be. It was the rest of the team. It didn't really carry their weight. So I it's an interesting pickup in that they have something now that I think Oregon's the only other team in the country can say they have. They have actual depth at quarterback, whereas if Will Hammond isn't able to play, they've got a guy they can rely on. Now, is Thomas Castellanos the kind of guy I'm trying to win playoff games with?

• 2:22:36Speaker 02

  Patrick Mahomes, like Oregon has? How's that gonna work, by the way?

• 2:22:41Speaker 01

  Dante Moore is gonna play and Dylan Raiola is gonna watch.

• 2:22:43Speaker 02

  No, I'm saying, like, he's not wearing a red jersey anymore.

• 2:22:46Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 2:22:47Speaker 02

  Practice.

• 2:22:48Speaker 00

  Yeah, you had, you had, when Texas Tech had their quarterback issues in the spring, you had to think Dylan Raiola was just thinking.

• 2:22:53Speaker 02

  It was just perfect.

• 2:22:54Speaker 00

  It was right there.

• 2:22:55Speaker 01

  Damn it. Yeah.

• 2:22:57Speaker 02

  My take that Dylan Raiola, and it probably not really that controversial, but the fact that he's been to, what was it, six schools in the last six years?

• 2:23:05Speaker 00

  Yeah, it's not good.

• 2:23:07Speaker 02

  Just.

• 2:23:07Speaker 00

  AJ Store of college football.

• 2:23:09Speaker 02

  At some point, he should have boys at at a school, and he's like, I'm sick of moving. I want to hang out with my friends. Like, this locker room means a lot to me. I would just rather not leave them, right? If you're a leader, if you're a good quarterback that is able to to develop deep relationships, or at least very good working relationships with your with your other players, I feel like at some point, you want that guy to stick around just for, you know, the the personal feelings that he has for the place.

• 2:23:34Speaker 00

  But as the quarterback with the biggest NIL, he can just take his boys with him, couldn't he? Just take a couple of boys, just transfer with me?

• 2:23:39Speaker 02

  That's human trafficking.

• 2:23:40Speaker 00

  I don't think it's human trafficking. It's it's.

• 2:23:42Speaker 01

  It's boy trafficking. Totally different.

• 2:23:44Speaker 00

  Yeah, but if it's 20-year-old dudes, you can traffic 20-year-old college dudes. I used to do it.

• 2:23:50Speaker 00

  What?

• 2:23:51Speaker 02

  All right, you guys ready to pick? We'll get to the G5 because we'll you we'll hear your your best G5 picks. Sure. Oh, also, I asked Tom and Brandon to give me their best picks to see who could win the World Cup before the World Cup started, so I would just like to, I did, Brandon, you texted it to me.

• 2:24:05Speaker 00

  Okay, all right.

• 2:24:06Speaker 02

  So you guys both took Spain, Germany, and Argentina. Spain and Argentina, obviously, they were pretty good there. Germany got bounced pretty early on. Now, outside those picks, Tom, you had France, great World Cup from France.

• 2:24:21Speaker 01

  I don't pick France for anything.

• 2:24:22Speaker 02

  You had England, great World Cup from England. Two awesome picks there.

• 2:24:27Speaker 00

  Yeah, but.

• 2:24:27Speaker 02

  And then Brazil, disappointing, but two really good picks. Brandon, outside those common ones that you guys shared, you had the Netherlands.

• 2:24:36Speaker 01

  Sure.

• 2:24:36Speaker 02

  And they, I believe, got bounced in the first round. And then you had the the United States of America.

• 2:24:42Speaker 00

  Yeah, America. You ever heard of it, Tom?

• 2:24:43Speaker 02

  So Netherlands and USA.

• 2:24:45Speaker 01

  Soccer competition, I sure shit ain't picking it.

• 2:24:47Speaker 00

  Well, I am.

• 2:24:47Speaker 02

  Oh, you also had Portugal, and they lost. Yeah, they were not good, too. So, Tom.

• 2:24:51Speaker 01

  Ronaldo did score a goal, though.

• 2:24:52Speaker 02

  He did. He was back. I think Tom Fornelli is, we can say, our our football. Pardon my take, football.

• 2:24:59Speaker 00

  You'll give him a thousand more dollars and, god damn.

• 2:25:01Speaker 02

  There we go. Congrats, Tom.

• 2:25:03Speaker 01

  Thank you.

• 2:25:06Speaker 00

  Freddie got to my mouth.

• 2:25:08Speaker 02

  Let's put together the list. I want to see. Yeah, let's go. All right, who's who's drafting first?

• 2:25:12Speaker 00

  All right, well, obviously, what, how did we figure that out?

• 2:25:15Speaker 01

  I feel like I should go first.

• 2:25:16Speaker 02

  Well, you can, no, you can choose, because remember, it's snake.

• 2:25:19Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:25:20Speaker 02

  So you can choose.

• 2:25:21Speaker 01

  I'm gonna, I'll go first.

• 2:25:22Speaker 02

  Okay. And by the way, we have Zach running the Excel spreadsheet right now.

• 2:25:29Speaker 01

  I I've got a.

• 2:25:30Speaker 02

  He's not gonna spell these these.

• 2:25:31Speaker 01

  I have a, Hank, get off your fucking phone.

• 2:25:35Speaker 01

  Sorry, I thought it was Jerry for a second. I'll go with Notre Dame.

• 2:25:40Speaker 02

  Good pick. How are we gonna spell this one? Okay. And we got it.

• 2:25:44Speaker 01

  Nailed it.

• 2:25:44Speaker 02

  All right, got it.

• 2:25:45Speaker 01

  You're not a capitalized guy?

• 2:25:48Speaker 00

  I'll take.

• 2:25:48Speaker 01

  I got you. Thank you.

• 2:25:49Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:25:50Speaker 00

  The Oregon Ducks.

• 2:25:52Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 2:25:54Speaker 01

  And?

• 2:25:54Speaker 00

  The Georgia Bulldogs.

• 2:25:55Speaker 02

  He's capitalizing.

• 2:25:56Speaker 01

  So you're gonna give me Ohio State?

• 2:25:58Speaker 00

  No, I'm taking I'm taking Oregon and Georgia.

• 2:26:00Speaker 01

  I'll take Ohio State.

• 2:26:02Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 2:26:03Speaker 01

  I've already won.

• 2:26:04Speaker 00

  I don't know that you have.

• 2:26:05Speaker 01

  It's over. It's over. Bless you. I'm calling it now. I have one.

• 2:26:09Speaker 02

  I can't wait to see what you win next year, Tom.

• 2:26:11Speaker 01

  Uh, let me see. After Ohio State, let me take.

• 2:26:15Speaker 02

  We should give him an.

• 2:26:15Speaker 00

  Oh, he has, you have a list? You have a master list? I don't need no list.

• 2:26:18Speaker 01

  Give me Miami.

• 2:26:19Speaker 02

  That's a good pick, Tom.

• 2:26:21Speaker 00

  Hold on, one, two, three, four, five.

• 2:26:23Speaker 02

  You still have two of the teams you think can win the national title?

• 2:26:26Speaker 00

  Um, yes, I do. I just got to figure out who they are. Um.

• 2:26:30Speaker 02

  Surprise.

• 2:26:31Speaker 00

  Give me Texas and Indiana.

• 2:26:32Speaker 02

  Okay. Oh, wow. So you took Indiana seventh. That's disrespect.

• 2:26:36Speaker 00

  So you, that's.

• 2:26:39Speaker 00

  Now it gets a little funky.

• 2:26:40Speaker 01

  Now is where we start getting a little complicated, but I'm gonna take LSU.

• 2:26:44Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 2:26:45Speaker 01

  And then, let's see here.

• 2:26:46Speaker 02

  They might get a really easy schedule this year if they get kicked out of the SEC.

• 2:26:50Speaker 01

  They might. This is like, now we gotta go to like the fourth team in the Big Ten.

• 2:26:55Speaker 02

  What about the Big 12?

• 2:26:56Speaker 01

  Big 12.

• 2:26:56Speaker 02

  The fuck up. Sorry, sorry. Oh, Brandon's gonna take Texas Tech.

• 2:27:00Speaker 01

  Yeah, I should. Brandon, they were on my list. I'm just trying to figure out.

• 2:27:04Speaker 00

  I understand that, but he wasn't, you you weren't near them.

• 2:27:07Speaker 01

  I'll take Texas Tech.

• 2:27:08Speaker 02

  Oh, good pick. Good pick.

• 2:27:11Speaker 02

  Good pick.

• 2:27:12Speaker 01

  Respect. You know, this is why you don't fucking win trophies, because you don't have any respect for them.

• 2:27:17Speaker 00

  National title, and you're trying to get to a team that won a national title, so we're gonna, but playoff helps, too.

• 2:27:21Speaker 02

  Playoff do matter. It's.

• 2:27:23Speaker 00

  That's bullshit.

• 2:27:24Speaker 02

  I can't remember what our rules were.

• 2:27:25Speaker 00

  Zach, that's bullshit. Zach, you're in charge of the booth, right?

• 2:27:28Speaker 01

  No, buys, get extra points.

• 2:27:29Speaker 02

  Yeah, put an asterisk next to Texas Tech. We'll revisit.

• 2:27:32Speaker 01

  Why? What do we gotta revisit? That's bullshit.

• 2:27:34Speaker 02

  Asterisk doesn't mean anything. Go parentheses and just be like, Brandon says that it's bullshit. Yeah, Tom, you gotta understand something about Brandon. You just have to, you have to just.

• 2:27:43Speaker 01

  Oh, he's like a kid throwing.

• 2:27:44Speaker 00

  Do you know what an asterisk is, Zach?

• 2:27:46Speaker 02

  So that he'll stop complaining and then we'll come back to it.

• 2:27:48Speaker 01

  Got it, got it.

• 2:27:48Speaker 00

  Give me, that's bullshit what just happened.

• 2:27:51Speaker 02

  Uh, put the asterisk on the bottom. Brandon's a baby. We wanted him to stop crying.

• 2:27:58Speaker 00

  That's not how you spell Brandon. Good God.

• 2:28:01Speaker 02

  Zach is very proficient in Excel. This is an Excel masterclass.

• 2:28:06Speaker 01

  Okay, I took a course.

• 2:28:08Speaker 02

  Yeah. All right, hold on now.

• 2:28:12Speaker 00

  Give me Oklahoma.

• 2:28:13Speaker 02

  Oh, good pick. That's a good pick, Brandon.

• 2:28:17Speaker 02

  Washington?

• 2:28:19Speaker 00

  No, um.

• 2:28:23Speaker 02

  Alabama for mama?

• 2:28:25Speaker 00

  USC.

• 2:28:26Speaker 02

  Ooh.

• 2:28:27Speaker 00

  No, other, other column.

• 2:28:30Speaker 01

  That is good, yeah. Um, hmm. I'm trying to figure out if I want to go down to my value picks here, if I want to just keep going down my board.

• 2:28:38Speaker 02

  Well, you have, you've picked so far, three, five, so you still have seven, so you're gonna get value picks later.

• 2:28:45Speaker 01

  Yeah, I, I, I've been toying with the idea because I know he doesn't want to pick Alabama.

• 2:28:50Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:28:51Speaker 01

  So I've been toying with the idea, seeing how long I could let him go. I feel like this is probably as far as I should risk it. So I will take Alabama.

• 2:28:58Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 2:28:58Speaker 01

  And then, hmm.

• 2:29:04Speaker 01

  Michigan.

• 2:29:05Speaker 00

  Michigan, that's what you sound like.

• 2:29:08Speaker 02

  You're just mad because you can't suck up the date.

• 2:29:11Speaker 00

  Um.

• 2:29:13Speaker 02

  I don't want to say it.

• 2:29:15Speaker 00

  And I won't say it.

• 2:29:16Speaker 02

  But like a a pick that you had last year. Yeah, there's a good pick out there, Brandon. Playing the, get into the playoff game. It's your second favorite team.

• 2:29:25Speaker 02

  You always say Mississippi versus everybody.

• 2:29:29Speaker 01

  I'd rather die.

• 2:29:30Speaker 02

  You do say that, Mississippi versus everybody.

• 2:29:34Speaker 00

  No, all right, everybody just hold on for a second.

• 2:29:37Speaker 02

  There is a pick that. Who could have seen your pick coming up? It might not be crazy. Who could have, who could have seen that it was gonna come back to you?

• 2:29:45Speaker 00

  First, Texas Tech threw about, threw the whole rhythm off.

• 2:29:50Speaker 00

  Oh, boy. So, Tom, here's the thing. I could go with a team here, or I could go with another team.

• 2:29:59Speaker 01

  That's true. You could go with different teams.

• 2:30:01Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 2:30:01Speaker 00

  Um, boy, it really, it really.

• 2:30:04Speaker 01

  Do you need me to like name teams for you? You've forgotten all of them? You don't know?

• 2:30:07Speaker 00

  No, I got A&M in my head. I got Ole Miss in my head. I got Louisville in my head. I got BYU in my head. Um.

• 2:30:14Speaker 02

  Do you have Washington?

• 2:30:15Speaker 00

  Do feel like I'm, or do you feel like we're both missing one? Do you feel like we're missing one?

• 2:30:19Speaker 02

  Penn State? Do you have Penn State in your head?

• 2:30:20Speaker 01

  Oh, let's see.

• 2:30:21Speaker 02

  Tennessee?

• 2:30:22Speaker 01

  I don't think I'm missing anybody.

• 2:30:23Speaker 02

  Do you have Penn State?

• 2:30:24Speaker 00

  Yeah, you had to get reminded of Texas Tech, Tom.

• 2:30:26Speaker 02

  The schedule that Penn State has?

• 2:30:27Speaker 01

  Reminded of Texas Tech.

• 2:30:28Speaker 00

  Yes, you were. You had, you didn't, I was looking at your head, there was nothing.

• 2:30:31Speaker 02

  Are you forgetting BYU?

• 2:30:32Speaker 00

  I just said BYU in my face.

• 2:30:34Speaker 02

  So you're forgetting him.

• 2:30:36Speaker 01

  I know who you're forgetting.

• 2:30:37Speaker 00

  Give me Ole Miss.

• 2:30:39Speaker 02

  Oh, no. Oh, wow.

• 2:30:40Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 2:30:41Speaker 02

  Mississippi versus everybody.

• 2:30:42Speaker 01

  Ole Miss comes off the board before Mississippi State. That's a sad side.

• 2:30:48Speaker 02

  All right, who is he forgetting?

• 2:30:50Speaker 01

  I don't know. I was just trying to fuck with him. Uh, god damn, I don't really.

• 2:30:54Speaker 02

  This is where it gets tough.

• 2:30:55Speaker 01

  All right, I think I'm gonna break the G6 seal here. Give me Boise State.

• 2:30:59Speaker 00

  Pussy.

• 2:31:00Speaker 02

  Okay. Blue turf. Did you see the blue turf, Tom?

• 2:31:03Speaker 01

  I did.

• 2:31:03Speaker 02

  Well, it's right here.

• 2:31:04Speaker 01

  No, I know. We're on it. It's covered in confetti. Thoughts and prayers to whoever has to clean all this shit up.

• 2:31:10Speaker 02

  That might be, that might be the future, though. Boise State covered in confetti for Tom Fornelli. Seven, seven birds die every day here inside this office by trying to land on that piece of carpet.

• 2:31:22Speaker 01

  Uh, fuck it, give me Texas A&M. I'm not super, I mean, you know, here's what I want to avoid. I'm not a huge Texas A&M, like, believer, but this is what cost us Indiana last year. So you kind of got to.

• 2:31:36Speaker 00

  You're right, you're right.

• 2:31:39Speaker 02

  Brandon?

• 2:31:41Speaker 01

  So I've got two more picks.

• 2:31:42Speaker 00

  Maybe BYU and Memphis.

• 2:31:44Speaker 01

  Yeah, I like that.

• 2:31:45Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 2:31:47Speaker 00

  So I'm done. The whole board is yours, sir.

• 2:31:50Speaker 02

  No, wait. Do we do 12?

• 2:31:52Speaker 00

  Oh, wait, oh, I'm sorry. The first, I I was just looking at the number beside the Excel.

• 2:31:56Speaker 02

  Yeah, you have three more picks.

• 2:31:57Speaker 00

  I did, I shouldn't have done that then.

• 2:31:59Speaker 02

  Yeah, you have three more picks, Tom.

• 2:32:01Speaker 00

  I thought we were done, because I was looking at the number 12 on the Excel.

• 2:32:03Speaker 02

  Brandon, you gotta count your pit, your teams.

• 2:32:05Speaker 00

  Well, I didn't know he was starting at three. Who starts at three?

• 2:32:07Speaker 02

  Well, you're not proficient in Excel.

• 2:32:09Speaker 00

  Why do you start at three?

• 2:32:10Speaker 01

  These are my last two?

• 2:32:11Speaker 02

  No, you have one more after that.

• 2:32:13Speaker 01

  Oh, okay. Well, shit.

• 2:32:14Speaker 02

  Because you went first.

• 2:32:15Speaker 00

  Fuck.

• 2:32:16Speaker 01

  Huh?

• 2:32:16Speaker 02

  So you have three more. Brandon has two.

• 2:32:19Speaker 00

  I'm gonna go.

• 2:32:20Speaker 02

  Brandon, what did you do? Yeah, he got outsmarted.

• 2:32:22Speaker 00

  I know, I know.

• 2:32:23Speaker 02

  Outsmarted by numbers.

• 2:32:24Speaker 00

  I did. No, he started at three.

• 2:32:26Speaker 01

  I will take advantage of the schedule and take Penn State.

• 2:32:29Speaker 02

  Yeah, good pick. Good pick.

• 2:32:30Speaker 01

  And then.

• 2:32:31Speaker 02

  That would be something if Brandon's Penn State. Yeah. If his Nittany Lions. Said Penn State was breaking through about seven years in a row. Yeah.

• 2:32:38Speaker 01

  Oh, there's, oh, they're not. Give me SMU.

• 2:32:40Speaker 02

  I mean, there's a chance that a lot of stuff with Penn State is. Yeah. It's coming back.

• 2:32:45Speaker 01

  Zach spelled SMU perfectly right, so that's good.

• 2:32:49Speaker 02

  Got you, Tom. All right, Brandon, last two picks.

• 2:32:51Speaker 01

  That's, you're my favorite.

• 2:32:53Speaker 02

  Tennessee, Washington?

• 2:32:57Speaker 02

  Houston?

• 2:33:00Speaker 02

  Just take Louisville again?

• 2:33:03Speaker 00

  I could take Louisville again.

• 2:33:04Speaker 02

  You could take Louisville again. If you take Louisville again and they make it, I will give you two points.

• 2:33:09Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 2:33:17Speaker 00

  Not. Washington?

• 2:33:21Speaker 00

  And the Florida Gators.

• 2:33:22Speaker 02

  Damn it. Hey. Fuck.

• 2:33:24Speaker 01

  Tom, your last pick? That was a great pick.

• 2:33:26Speaker 02

  Great pick.

• 2:33:28Speaker 01

  Okay, so.

• 2:33:30Speaker 02

  So from the G6, we have Boise and Memphis right now.

• 2:33:34Speaker 00

  Yeah. Couple of good teams sitting out there.

• 2:33:37Speaker 02

  Who, who else in the G6 you think could, could get in?

• 2:33:40Speaker 00

  Uh, can I ask you a many question? Do you think UNLV is out of it, or you think they can fight?

• 2:33:43Speaker 01

  I do. I don't think they could afford to lose that game.

• 2:33:45Speaker 02

  I think they're out of it.

• 2:33:46Speaker 01

  That's, I think Memphis is a sneaky, awesome pick because of that.

• 2:33:49Speaker 00

  Uh, he wasn't the problem.

• 2:33:51Speaker 02

  Oh, I mean, he, the offensive line was bad, but he also, he can't. He gets sacked every single time. It's always been that.

• 2:33:59Speaker 01

  Give me.

• 2:34:00Speaker 02

  Ever heard that sacks are, are half a quarterback stat?

• 2:34:04Speaker 00

  Never.

• 2:34:04Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:34:06Speaker 01

  Give me Tennessee.

• 2:34:08Speaker 02

  All right, what other G6s were, would you?

• 2:34:10Speaker 01

  Navy. Navy is one I really wanted to pick.

• 2:34:12Speaker 00

  Oh, that's always, oh, God, Tennessee, the spelling.

• 2:34:15Speaker 02

  Hey, can I get Navy? Can I, can I support the troops? I'll take one on the side. I'll take Navy. And I'll take New Mexico, even though they don't have a quarterback.

• 2:34:21Speaker 01

  Yeah, that, that sucks for them.

• 2:34:22Speaker 00

  Can I ignore the Tennessee?

• 2:34:24Speaker 02

  No, it's fine. He was close enough. That's good, yeah.

• 2:34:26Speaker 01

  Now, listen, Tennessee could use an A.

• 2:34:29Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:34:30Speaker 02

  Yeah. Okay, uh, great job, boys.

• 2:34:33Speaker 01

  Thanks.

• 2:34:34Speaker 02

  Roback question, R H O B A C K dot com, promo code take, roback.com, promo code take. Zach, Roback question. Uh, first question for Brandon. Uh, Brandon, how do you think today went? And does, what do you say to the people who's, that say Tom has you in a forever blender?

• 2:34:51Speaker 00

  Well, he doesn't have me in a forever blender. That is absolutely wrong. First of all, he was the second guest on the Brandon Walker College Football Show. I appreciate that. I beat him and walked into this room last year as the reigning expert and y'all acted like it didn't count because it was a new season. So that's not a forever blender. You guys are doing the blending. I was the expert one year. You're there. We're tied at one, Tom. This is the tiebreaker.

• 2:35:11Speaker 01

  If we combine scores, though, it's not really that close.

• 2:35:14Speaker 00

  I beat the shit out of you a couple of years ago.

• 2:35:16Speaker 01

  Listen, you know what? You want to live in the past, you continue to live in the past.

• 2:35:19Speaker 00

  If you want to do scores, I destroyed you. I had like the whole playoff.

• 2:35:21Speaker 02

  Tom, make sure when you're talking to Brandon, you show your ring.

• 2:35:24Speaker 01

  Have you seen this ring, by the way? You see that glitter? That's real. That is not fake. Those are real diamonds.

• 2:35:29Speaker 02

  And we have cake, by the way, at the end. Shines real nice.

• 2:35:31Speaker 01

  By the way, you know what? As nice as I am, I'm gonna share that cake with everybody here in the office.

• 2:35:35Speaker 02

  Oh, I love that. That's beautiful.

• 2:35:37Speaker 01

  Go buy yourself a cake.

• 2:35:40Speaker 02

  All right, so you're in a forever blender.

• 2:35:42Speaker 00

  I'm not in a forever blender. I was the winner last year.

• 2:35:44Speaker 01

  People are saying you're in a forever blender.

• 2:35:46Speaker 02

  That's one of the worst places, I'd say.

• 2:35:49Speaker 02

  The fact that you're even talking about the forever blender means you're probably.

• 2:35:52Speaker 01

  He's in the forever blender.

• 2:35:53Speaker 00

  Zach asked about it.

• 2:35:54Speaker 02

  Right. It's, it's a topic of conversation.

• 2:35:56Speaker 01

  People are calling you KitchenAid.

• 2:35:58Speaker 00

  Was that the only question he had?

• 2:35:59Speaker 02

  Magic bullet.

• 2:36:00Speaker 01

  It was the Roback question, right? R H O B A C K.

• 2:36:02Speaker 02

  Do you have another one? Same brand in the ninja. I do a follow-up question for Tom. Uh, Tom is someone who's currently ring on body, trophy to the side. Uh, if there's anyone in close proximity that isn't currently a winner, how would you advise him to become a winner?

• 2:36:13Speaker 00

  Do y'all want him to take his pants down so you can suck his dick? Do you want, do you want him to take his pants down so you can just suck his dick right here on the desk?

• 2:36:18Speaker 02

  Damn, Brandon. You have to go there, man. Jesus Christ.

• 2:36:21Speaker 01

  Why do we have to get sexual?

• 2:36:23Speaker 02

  Forever blender.

• 2:36:24Speaker 00

  An hour just sitting here watching y'all do a reach around for Tom.

• 2:36:27Speaker 01

  You know, Zach, it's a great question.

• 2:36:28Speaker 00

  No, it's not.

• 2:36:29Speaker 02

  Great question. Like, if we're giving him a reach around, then that means that we're, we're, we're fucking him. That's not what we're doing.

• 2:36:35Speaker 01

  I think the thing that you need more than anything to be great is you have to believe in yourself first and foremost, because if you don't believe in you, who will? And I think that is the key. And then after that, it's just, you know, you gotta, you gotta take it one day at a time. You just gotta wake up every day trying to be 1% better. And if you can do that, eventually you're gonna be 100% better.

• 2:36:53Speaker 02

  I love that. I love that. Love that. You gotta love yourself first.

• 2:36:56Speaker 01

  Also, stay humble.

• 2:36:58Speaker 02

  Stay humble, stay hungry. Brandon, how, how many? Well, you stay hungry all the time. Do you love yourself?

• 2:37:02Speaker 00

  I'm starving. I'm starving.

• 2:37:03Speaker 01

  Use that gift card.

• 2:37:04Speaker 02

  I think Brandon, I don't think loving himself is the problem with Brandon.

• 2:37:07Speaker 00

  No, I'm very in love with myself.

• 2:37:08Speaker 02

  He loves himself several times.

• 2:37:09Speaker 01

  There's a different kind of, there's a difference between loving yourself and being confident, I think.

• 2:37:14Speaker 02

  Sticking your chest out there.

• 2:37:15Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:37:16Speaker 02

  Brandon's co-host used to do that.

• 2:37:17Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:37:18Speaker 02

  Fired her.

• 2:37:19Speaker 00

  I didn't.

• 2:37:22Speaker 02

  No, Brandon.

• 2:37:23Speaker 00

  No, she's on Fox News right now. She's good.

• 2:37:27Speaker 02

  All right, boys, this has always been, uh, the best. We love having you guys on together and, uh, college football's back.

• 2:37:33Speaker 00

  May I, may I ask a question?

• 2:37:35Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:37:36Speaker 00

  May I get a promise?

• 2:37:36Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:37:37Speaker 00

  If I win this year, I get the same level of pomp and circumstance next year.

• 2:37:41Speaker 02

  Cannot promise that because like Kyle Shanahan said, we could all die tomorrow.

• 2:37:45Speaker 00

  Right. Uh, if everybody's still around.

• 2:37:47Speaker 02

  You know what, Brandon?

• 2:37:47Speaker 01

  Especially if you're on the road, never mind. Never mind.

• 2:37:50Speaker 02

  Brandon, I will, I will give you the exact same level.

• 2:37:53Speaker 00

  Of pomp and circumstance.

• 2:37:55Speaker 02

  Pomp and circumstance, both.

• 2:37:56Speaker 00

  All right, I appreciate that. Fair enough.

• 2:37:59Speaker 02

  I am not agreeing.

• 2:38:01Speaker 00

  I got half of it. I'm good.

• 2:38:02Speaker 02

  Yeah. So we give you half of it.

• 2:38:04Speaker 00

  Yeah. I get 50% of the pomp and circumstance that Tom got today. I'm guaranteed of that.

• 2:38:08Speaker 01

  So like half a cake?

• 2:38:09Speaker 02

  $500.

• 2:38:10Speaker 00

  But you're not saying you want to. You're just saying you're not, you're not.

• 2:38:13Speaker 01

  Three Chick-fil-A gift cards.

• 2:38:14Speaker 00

  You're not, um, guaranteeing it.

• 2:38:16Speaker 02

  Well, I'm not saying, I'm not, I'm not guaranteeing anything. I could take away half of the pomp and circumstance.

• 2:38:21Speaker 01

  Why would you?

• 2:38:21Speaker 02

  Then you'd be at zero.

• 2:38:22Speaker 00

  How would you, you can't take away half.

• 2:38:24Speaker 02

  And I take away half. If I brought in, let's say I bring in $500 cash and $150 with a Chick-fil-A gift cards and two, um, confetti poppers. And a cupcake. And a cupcake. And then I leave it out and Big Cat takes it all. Then that's just kind of what we're working with there. Then we just don't have pomp and circumstance. We might have some pomp, but the circumstance is out the window.

• 2:38:43Speaker 00

  When you send someone to the store to, to get these supplies, how many confetti poppers did you tell them to get?

• 2:38:48Speaker 02

  Actually, Dom, I did not say any confetti poppers. He did that on his own, which was a beautiful.

• 2:38:53Speaker 01

  That's just Italian to Italian kind of respect right there.

• 2:38:56Speaker 02

  Beautiful. I asked for the cake, asked for the trophy, asked for the card, asked for the ring, the ribbon, the big scissors, all that stuff. But the, the, the confetti, he was, he did an audible, great audible. Confetti's gotta be Italian, right? With a name like that.

• 2:39:09Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's got ends in an I.

• 2:39:10Speaker 02

  Absolutely. All right, boys, thank you. Tom and Brandon were brought to you by Netflix, where Netflix is expanding its NFL coverage in 2026 from Week 1 to their first ever Thanksgiving Eve matchup and two Christmas Day games and a playoff game in January. Week 1 of the upcoming NFL season will feature the league's first ever regular season game in Australia on September 10th between divisional rivals, the Los Angeles Rams and the San Francisco 49ers. That will air on Netflix Live from the Melbourne Cricket Ground. Heading into holiday season, Netflix will add the NFL's first ever Thanksgiving Eve game on November 25th to its plate.

• 2:39:48Speaker 02

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• 2:40:26Speaker 02

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• 2:41:10Speaker 02

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• 2:41:36Speaker 03

  My husband and I have been debating this for years. Who wins in a street fight, not a cage sanctioned fight, no weapons, a member of SEAL teams? Okay, no weapons.

• 2:41:45Speaker 02

  No clotheslines?

• 2:41:46Speaker 03

  No clothesline. A member of SEAL Team 6 or a UFC fighter? Not just a Navy SEAL, a member of SEAL Team 6.

• 2:41:52Speaker 02

  And what kind of a fight is it? Street fight.

• 2:41:54Speaker 03

  Street fight. Not a cage sanctioned fight.

• 2:41:57Speaker 02

  I think it's a UFC fighter. Yeah, they're, they're, I think that if there was any sort of weapon involved at all, the Navy SEAL or, or special ops guy would do it. Is this at night? If it's at night, then I, I would go back to the, uh, the special forces guy. Yeah, and it's, I think the special forces guy would have better stamina long-term, deal with pain long-term, but in terms of like technical ability.

• 2:42:22Speaker 03

  He just gets you on the ground.

• 2:42:23Speaker 02

  Yeah, there's nothing you can do for like a, a guy who is an incredible wrestler and grappler. I don't care how tough you are, you're just technically kind of fucked. I think that like a UFC fighter probably spends 100% of his time training in hand-to-hand, close quarters combat. A Navy SEAL probably spends, I don't know, I, I would say 30% of his time doing that. But you, the second you introduce any sort of weapon, then I think the UFC fighter's dead. It's like, well, like when people think that they can get into boxing and you're like, you don't understand how fast a boxer's hands are and that the fact that they could, they could basically punch you five times before you even get to them.

• 2:43:04Speaker 02

  Like that type of, it's just a different level. So Navy SEALs, absolute badasses. Thank you for your service, Navy SEALs. I think.

• 2:43:11Speaker 01

  I think even Navy SEALs would probably admit that going against like a really, really good UFC fighter. Now, if you did like a, uh, uh, guy who's, oh, I'm doing jiu jitsu and I'm, um, I'm training in UFC fighting. Not an actual like sanctioned UFC fighter. Yeah. The Navy SEAL would fuck him up, but like a guy who's actually an accomplished UFC fighter, been on pay-per-views. That's different.

• 2:43:32Speaker 02

  In this scenario, I was envisioning like current reigning champ.

• 2:43:35Speaker 01

  Patty the baddie.

• 2:43:36Speaker 02

  Reigning champion in the UFC. Also, the thing I didn't think about, the second that this fight starts to happen, you're going to have like 12 other Navy SEALs that crash the fight and just murder you.

• 2:43:47Speaker 01

  True.

• 2:43:47Speaker 02

  And put your body somewhere that'll never be found. Much like what we would do at Barstool Sports. If an Uber Eats driver came in and started shit. Backyard.

• 2:43:55Speaker 01

  Fucking backyard.

• 2:43:56Speaker 02

  Never say a word about it.

• 2:43:57Speaker 01

  Hidden forever.

• 2:43:59Speaker 03

  Dearest New York Times bestselling writers.

• 2:44:01Speaker 02

  Ooh.

• 2:44:02Speaker 03

  I just started dating someone new. Also fellow W A W L. I'm not completely sold on him quite yet. He's super nice, funny, lots in common, a real take home to your mom kind of guy.

• 2:44:12Speaker 02

  Hmm.

• 2:44:13Speaker 03

  However.

• 2:44:14Speaker 01

  Uh oh.

• 2:44:15Speaker 03

  I'm pretty sure I could take him in a fight. Just kind of giving me the egg.

• 2:44:18Speaker 02

  Stephen A. Smith voice.

• 2:44:19Speaker 03

  Oh, Callian does Stephen A. was all time, all time. I'm also convinced the sex may end up being a little bit vanilla because of this. How do I gently let him know that I'm looking for someone to pick me up and manhandle me in a loving, respectful way, of course?

• 2:44:34Speaker 01

  I'd have to know size breakdown here because

• 2:44:39Speaker 01

  I think sometimes like women don't understand the difference in strength. Like, obviously they should never fight, but her saying, oh, I could take him in a fight. I don't know if that's true. You know what I mean? Like if they're the same size, I think the man's.

• 2:44:54Speaker 03

  I think it's more just because he's nice.

• 2:44:55Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:44:55Speaker 03

  Like he seems.

• 2:44:56Speaker 01

  Oh, okay.

• 2:44:56Speaker 03

  Like he's a pussy.

• 2:44:57Speaker 01

  Hmm. So you need him to be a badass.

• 2:45:00Speaker 03

  She wants him to be a badass. How, how, how does she tell him she wants him to be badass?

• 2:45:04Speaker 02

  Well, it sounds like she wants him to be a badass when they're fucking, if they fuck.

• 2:45:08Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:45:09Speaker 02

  I think you just say like, here's what I like.

• 2:45:11Speaker 01

  Yeah, but also badass in general.

• 2:45:15Speaker 01

  Maybe like sta- sta- stage like a mugging and see his reaction.

• 2:45:21Speaker 02

  Mm hmm.

• 2:45:22Speaker 01

  And you'll like, if he shrieks, be like, all right, we're broken up.

• 2:45:24Speaker 02

  That could be disappointing.

• 2:45:25Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:45:25Speaker 02

  Um, yeah, you could stage something or, uh, I, I don't know. I feel like communication is the right move. Just tell them, hey, this is, I, I want you to, I want you to throw me around a little bit.

• 2:45:36Speaker 01

  I want you to be a badass.

• 2:45:37Speaker 02

  Be a badass. Well, actually, you know what? Here's what we can do. So it's not targeted at this one guy.

• 2:45:40Speaker 03

  Just send him some crazy porn.

• 2:45:42Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:45:43Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:45:43Speaker 01

  Or, or buy him a gun.

• 2:45:46Speaker 02

  Yeah, but so what I'm saying is if we just blanket statement to all AWLs, maybe just be like 15% more badass.

• 2:45:53Speaker 01

  What were, what were?

• 2:45:54Speaker 02

  All you guys.

• 2:45:55Speaker 01

  What was the first, uh, two lines of this? Because this is now, people listening right now, there's definitely going to be a few guys that are like, oh shit.

• 2:46:03Speaker 03

  Just started dating someone new. I'm not completely sold on him. He's super nice, funny, lots in common, a real take home to your mom kind of guy.

• 2:46:10Speaker 01

  But, and then what was the other part? That he's an AWL?

• 2:46:12Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:46:13Speaker 01

  And she is as well?

• 2:46:14Speaker 03

  Mm hmm.

• 2:46:14Speaker 01

  Uh oh. So, yeah, there's gonna be some hard, so maybe AWLs are gonna have some hard conversations in the mirror on Wednesday morning.

• 2:46:21Speaker 02

  Yeah, just.

• 2:46:21Speaker 01

  When they hear this part.

• 2:46:22Speaker 02

  Just like crank up.

• 2:46:24Speaker 03

  Maybe, you know, button, take, take a couple of buttons down on your next date.

• 2:46:28Speaker 01

  Also, write back in if, if he does say like, hey, I was listening and I think it's, it's me. That'd be funny if a couple, a couple of guys outed themselves is like, shit, I gotta be more badass.

• 2:46:38Speaker 02

  Get a leather jacket, start smoking.

• 2:46:41Speaker 01

  Mm hmm.

• 2:46:43Speaker 02

  Get a motorcycle.

• 2:46:44Speaker 03

  All right. Well, I know on this one, uh, hey, PMT guys, I've recently seen some videos online explaining why men should sit down to pee when they're at home. It's cleaner, no splashback, better for your pelvic floor and empties the bladder fully. That's a lie. Uh, I have been unsuccessful in convincing my husband he should pick up on this habit. Can you please persuade him? Thanks.

• 2:47:02Speaker 02

  Wait, wait, what, what did you say?

• 2:47:04Speaker 03

  Like when I take a shit.

• 2:47:05Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:47:06Speaker 03

  And I pee, I feel like when I stand up, I still have to pee more.

• 2:47:08Speaker 02

  Yeah. So it's unsuccessful. You can't, you can't.

• 2:47:11Speaker 03

  I disagree.

• 2:47:11Speaker 02

  Empty your bladder if you're sitting down to pee.

• 2:47:13Speaker 03

  Yeah, I disagree with that.

• 2:47:14Speaker 01

  Here's, uh.

• 2:47:15Speaker 02

  I've never really thought about that.

• 2:47:16Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:47:17Speaker 03

  You never take a shit and then stand up, turn around and pee?

• 2:47:19Speaker 01

  I forget to pee sometimes.

• 2:47:20Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:47:20Speaker 02

  So when you, when you pee, when you poop, it's not a full pee. I agree with that.

• 2:47:25Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:47:25Speaker 02

  You're, you're there. That's a business trip and then you're not necessarily thinking about number one.

• 2:47:30Speaker 01

  Uh, Zach's Googling. This is a problem. Um, I would say counterpoint, lady. Go outside, turn on your hose, hold it in between your legs. Tell me how much fun you have. Okay? So that's what it is. That's what you're dealing with.

• 2:47:47Speaker 03

  Wait till it snows and try and spell your name.

• 2:47:50Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:47:50Speaker 03

  And tell me how fun that is.

• 2:47:51Speaker 02

  Why don't you try standing up to pee every time?

• 2:47:54Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:47:54Speaker 02

  How about that?

• 2:47:55Speaker 01

  Go to, go to.

• 2:47:56Speaker 03

  Put some ice in your toilet and see how much you can melt.

• 2:47:59Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:48:00Speaker 03

  Tell me how much fun you had.

• 2:48:00Speaker 01

  Go to a concert and, uh, when you go to the bathroom, cut the amount of, uh, stalls in half and say you can only use these, this half, then wait in line until that's ready. Okay? Or you could just crouch over the, the drain and be done.

• 2:48:17Speaker 02

  And that said, in the middle of the night, sometimes if I don't feel like standing up, if I'm very, very tired, I'll just go and I'll sit down. And then I'll like, then I'll stumble my way out of the bathroom. Nothing wrong with that.

• 2:48:28Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:48:30Speaker 01

  I actually don't do that.

• 2:48:30Speaker 03

  Never done that.

• 2:48:31Speaker 02

  You've never sat down to pee ever in your life?

• 2:48:33Speaker 01

  I've sat down to pee.

• 2:48:34Speaker 03

  If I'm like.

• 2:48:35Speaker 01

  Yeah, like if I'm like hurt or like.

• 2:48:36Speaker 03

  Painfully hungover.

• 2:48:37Speaker 01

  Yeah, that situation. But at night I'll just, I'll just let it fly and deal with the, whatever happens after. Cause also I'm trying at night, I'm, I'm essentially trying to get in and out of the bathroom without waking up.

• 2:48:49Speaker 02

  Mm hmm.

• 2:48:49Speaker 01

  So I do it as fast as I can. Usually piss all over the floor. Don't care. Deal with it in the morning. And then like never open my eyes. If I sit down, I feel like I'd open my eyes.

• 2:48:58Speaker 02

  No, that's, that's the thing. It's like the sit down is actually better for keeping your eyes closed.

• 2:49:02Speaker 03

  So you wake up on the toilet.

• 2:49:03Speaker 02

  Yeah, that has happened. That has happened before. That's, that's, you get yourself in that type of situation sometimes.

• 2:49:09Speaker 01

  Mm hmm. Okay. Good show, boys. Good show. Uh, numbers, three.

• 2:49:16Speaker 03

  Five.

• 2:49:17Speaker 02

  Shane said 20 peas.

• 2:49:19Speaker 04

  What?

• 2:49:20Speaker 02

  That's what we just found out back here.

• 2:49:21Speaker 03

  I said sometimes, I said if it's early enough in the morning.

• 2:49:24Speaker 01

  That's what I'm saying. Shane's definitely a pee.

• 2:49:26Speaker 03

  If I'm tired, if I'm tired in the morning, I'm sitting and if like.

• 2:49:29Speaker 02

  Middle, middle of the night, that's when I'll do it.

• 2:49:31Speaker 03

  Or if you're a, a man waking up in the morning, it can be, you know.

• 2:49:35Speaker 02

  Are you, you're a huge dick?

• 2:49:36Speaker 04

  Yeah, Shane must have.

• 2:49:37Speaker 03

  Well, not, it's just more, it's just more of, you know.

• 2:49:40Speaker 02

  Your dick, how big your dick is. Wow, Shane.

• 2:49:43Speaker 04

  99.

• 2:49:44Speaker 03

  15.

• 2:49:44Speaker 02

  7.

• 2:49:45Speaker 04

  You're out on the rope?

• 2:49:48Speaker 03

  69.

• 2:49:49Speaker 02

  53. Zach, you should have taken Shane's hog in Mount Rushmore.

• 2:49:54Speaker 03

  Weapon.

• 2:49:57Speaker 03

  Try peeing with mine, bro.

• 2:50:08Speaker 04

  Something's gonna make, something you need.

• 2:50:16Speaker 01

  46.

• 2:50:18Speaker 03

  46, anybody?

• 2:50:21Speaker 03

  Anybody?

• 2:50:22Speaker 02

  One more.

• 2:50:47Speaker 01

  37, 37.

• 2:50:49Speaker 03

  Anybody?

• 2:50:50Speaker 02

  Nobody.

• 2:50:51Speaker 03

  Nobody.

• 2:50:52Speaker 02

  Nobody. Happy birthday to Will Anderson. Happy birthday, Terry Bradshaw. Birthday, Keanu Reeves. Happy birthday to Ray Gun. You remember Rachel Gunn, the break dancer from Australia?

• 2:51:01Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah. What a legend.

• 2:51:02Speaker 02

  That, you know what? I bet you, I bet you some NFL player is going to do a Ray Gun celebration with this quarterback touchdown.

• 2:51:08Speaker 01

  But she actually was in the Olympics.

• 2:51:10Speaker 02

  Yeah. Kittle, I'm looking at you. You would do an incredible Ray Gun. Um, and then happy birthday to Max Crosby. Love you guys.

• 2:53:18Speaker 02

  You