Bill Burr In Studio, CFB With Brandon Walker, Bills Beat Rams In A Thriller, Playoff Baseball + Guys On Chicks

The Championship Series are going and the Guardians steal 1 in Tampa after losing Game 2. Brewers up 2-0 on the Dodgers and LA is in trouble. Hank has some golf call outs (00:00:00-00:24:28). Monday Night Football delivered as the Bills outlast the Rams and the Rams special teams continue to sink them after McVay stopped getting aggressive at the end of the game (00:24:28-00:47:12). Hot Seat/Cool Throne (00:47:12-01:18:11). Brandon Walker joins the show to talk CFB, what's wrong with Texas, Oregon's failure of a season, is the SEC Good or do they just keep beating each other, who wins the Big 12 and more (01:18:11-01:56:29). Bill Burr joins us in studio to catch up with the guys, talk about his new movie The Social Reckoning, sports things that are pissing him off, mushrooms and more (01:56:29-02:45:01). We finish with guys on chicks You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or Netflix. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/pardon-my-take https://barstool.link/pardon-my-take

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• 2:17Speaker 00

  Welcome to part of my take presented by DraftKings. The crown is yours. Today is Wednesday, October 14th. And boys, we got some baseball. We got some playoff baseball. I don't know which one we want to start with. Actually, let's start with the game we just watched. The Guardians and the Rays are tied 1-1. Monday night, the Guardians in an all time, I expected nothing out of them. And then they somehow woke up and delivered like never have I been more sure watching a game PFT where the Rays jumped on them 2-0 in the top of the first. The Guardians just finished a five game series like 36 hours ago, hung over, whatever you want to call it. And then the Guardians just were like, you know what?

• 3:00Speaker 00

  Let's just, let's just keep riding this, this wave. They got shut out through five innings, but then scored in the sixth, seventh, eighth, and ninth, and took game one. Rays take game two. We're going back to Cleveland 1-1.

• 3:14Speaker 01

  Tilted the series 1-1. That's all the Guardians wanted to do. Take it back to the sea. Yeah. What's going on with Tropicana Field? What's going on with empty seats in an ALCS?

• 3:26Speaker 00

  I don't even care about the empty seats. I'm, I'm sorry, try. Well, actually, you know what? I'm not sorry because I think Rays fans know exactly. They completely agree with this.

• 3:35Speaker 01

  And when I say like there's seats, I'm not saying, I'm not saying like all the fans there suck. The fans that are diehard fans of the devil Rays are the Rays. They were in devil race tonight.

• 3:45Speaker 00

  Which were awesome.

• 3:46Speaker 01

  Yeah, they were great. Great throwbacks. Awesome fans. The fans there that care, they are incredible fans. The problem is there's just not enough of you guys.

• 3:54Speaker 00

  Not enough. And let's just be honest. There's no aura or like mystique when you're watching an ALCS game in Tropicana Field. And every fucking time there's a fly ball, the announcer's like, nope, didn't hit the rings. Oh, that might've hit the rings. Even in the ninth, there was the ball that the right fielder just stood there and kind of let it like fly like, oh, did it hit the rings? Why? Like, what are we playing? Star Fox? What the fuck is this?

• 4:23Speaker 01

  Yeah. Do they have a, do they have an umpire in the postseason that's up in the catwalk, like closer to the ceiling to see? There actually should be a guy up there wearing like a full on MLB umpire uniform. That's as close to the roof as possible to see if the ball hits it. Yeah, there's no aura in that stadium whatsoever. But you know, who does have aura is fastball Freddie.

• 4:40Speaker 00

  Yeah. Freddie Peralta was really good tonight. Jose Ramirez error, which that was, it was an error, but it also was the trop like having weird bounces because it's fake turf. What are you looking at? What are you thinking, Max? They, they did call it an error.

• 4:57Speaker 02

  Yeah, that was for sure an error. He's got.

• 4:59Speaker 00

  I know. I know. I'm saying, I'm saying it was an error. It was definitely an error. But I'm saying the bounce that happened because the trop has weird fake turf and baseball shouldn't be played on fake turf is was part of it.

• 5:11Speaker 02

  He's got to go. A hundred times out of a hundred.

• 5:14Speaker 00

  He had to go after it. Yeah. He had to, he had to charge it. He did. He let it like come to him and it ate him up.

• 5:21Speaker 02

  Yeah, you can't let that ball eat you up. You can't. I'm not, I'm not, I'm not giving them a trop pass on.

• 5:26Speaker 00

  Oh, I'm going against the trop.

• 5:28Speaker 02

  I'm going against the trop. They got, they got to move out of Tampa. They got to move out of Tampa.

• 5:31Speaker 00

  Not.

• 5:33Speaker 02

  No, they got to move. They got to move. I don't care.

• 5:36Speaker 01

  If they had a slightly nicer stadium, then people in Tampa would go to the games. It's just hard to get to. It's impossible to get to the trop. Yeah, exactly. Tell you what, just educate us.

• 5:47Speaker 00

  Physically get there.

• 5:47Speaker 01

  Why does anybody go there?

• 5:49Speaker 02

  It is the ALCS. Everyone says winning cures all. You're the best team in baseball. How do you have that?

• 5:57Speaker 01

  Not true. Wrong.

• 5:59Speaker 00

  Brewers are, but yeah.

• 6:00Speaker 02

  Okay, fine. You're the best team in the AL. Fucking semantics. It's a joke. It's a fucking joke. How many empty seats there are on a night game? You have no excuse not to get there. I don't care how hard it is or what the fucking traffic is. There's always traffic. There's always traffic getting, getting to fucking stadiums.

• 6:19Speaker 00

  You're right.

• 6:20Speaker 02

  Get your ass to the stadium. It's playoff baseball. You're trying to go to the World Series. Move out of Tampa.

• 6:27Speaker 01

  Zach, Zach, why, why is it so hard to get there? Try to cross that bridge, Max. You never been, you've never been over the bridge. Is it, you get car locked. You want to listen to the game on the radio in your car? That's what you, that's what you end up doing.

• 6:42Speaker 02

  Zach, you give a fuck about the Rays?

• 6:45Speaker 01

  No, if we're coming for stadium.

• 6:47Speaker 02

  You're, you're the perfect example. You live in Tampa. You couldn't name three players on the team. No one in Tampa cares about the Rays. Move out of Tampa.

• 6:54Speaker 01

  35 to 40 minutes east, but still, uh, did you see the renderings for the new ballpark, though? Yes.

• 7:00Speaker 02

  The 360 glass?

• 7:01Speaker 00

  Pretty sick.

• 7:02Speaker 02

  Come on.

• 7:03Speaker 01

  They should put a fucked up ceiling in the new stadium.

• 7:06Speaker 02

  Not show up to that either.

• 7:07Speaker 00

  And it's crazy because the Rays are really, really good and their front office is awesome. Um, I will, I will say that like this first two games, this was a win for Cleveland to get one of these and to have Gavin Williams ready to go. Like that's, that's a huge win uh, for, for Cleveland. And they, again, I was like, Monday night was, it was shocking to me. I had like, I think Guardians fans probably were like, well, probably scheduled loss. Like we're going against their ace. They're rested. We're coming off a five game series. And I thought the Rays did some weird shit with their bullpen. I think they had a guy pitch who was like, who hadn't pitched since like April or something. It was very bizarre. They never, they were, they were in a tied game in the late innings.

• 7:49Speaker 00

  Their closer never got in, like the high leverage situations. I don't know. So win for the Guardians to be 1-1 going back to Cleveland.

• 7:57Speaker 01

  I, if I, if it were me and I, I won game one on the road like that, I would for sure blow it in game two. I would not care. It would be such a big letdown spot for me personally. But.

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  But they still even had a moment. They had a moment.

• 8:09Speaker 01

  Chase LaLanne hit that double. Chase LaLanne is awesome. Love watching him play. Regardless of the fact that he went to Jamie, he's an awesome player. And he always seems to be the guy that like, if there's no spark, if the Guardians are having an off night, he's the guy that kind of stirs the drink that gets him going. And then people kind of feed off that. Uh, but yeah, they're going back to Cleveland and um, they are, I don't think Marlins man is going to be in attendance, right? He doesn't go to the Cleveland games.

• 8:33Speaker 00

  No, yeah, because not because the Guardians fans are mean to him, but it has nothing to do, I think it's Guardians fans are mean to him. It has nothing to do with the fact that the seats behind home plate are raised. So you can't see anyone.

• 8:45Speaker 01

  Right. I don't think he knows if he's on camera or not.

• 8:47Speaker 00

  Right, right.

• 8:47Speaker 01

  So that thought never crossed his mind is mostly about the fact that like one guy said something mean to him.

• 8:52Speaker 00

  They were mean to him. Yes.

• 8:53Speaker 01

  In 2016.

• 8:54Speaker 00

  Yeah. And then the other series, the Brewers, I mean, listen, I'm not rooting for them, but they are so good at baseball and it's crazy. I, I know people thought I was trying to jinx it like two weeks ago when I was like, just get used to it. The Brewers are going to win the World Series, but that game, Yamamoto is the guy. He is the guy that you throw who like is just a fucking stud when it comes to playoff baseball. I think the only other team that, that has ever like touched him up like that or chased him like that was the Phillies last year. Uh, in that five game series, he pitched four innings in that game. Yamamoto is the guy. You like, hey, we, it's okay. We're fine. The Brewers

• 9:36Speaker 00

  approach at the plate, that, that Jake Bauer at bat was just insane where he just grinded him and grinded him and grinded him down. It was like, I don't even know how long that bat was. It felt like it went for like five minutes. It was, and then they chase him, get the entire Dodgers bullpen. They just get big hit after big hit. They're so good at like situational hitting, situational running, hitting it to opposite field. They're just such a good baseball team. I don't know what else to say. And I also will say this. It felt, it feels like the Dodgers are going through like usual business of like, all right, we're going in the playoffs. We're just going to win the World Series again. The Brewers have

• 10:16Speaker 00

  had this exact matchup circled for an entire year. After getting embarrassed last year in the NLCS, it was like, this is what it's all being built for. It's to beat the Dodgers. It's to take it to them. And you can see the difference in, in the first two games, like with, with how the Brewers are ready for this.

• 10:34Speaker 01

  And then Hank woke up a sleeping giant, Christian Yelich, because all the guy does now is, is hit RBIs. Guy's an RBI machine. Yeah. I mean, this, this is, I, I have a lot of faith in the Brewers. The Brewers are no fluke. The Brewers have been building a really good team.

• 10:50Speaker 00

  Games in baseball in the last five years.

• 10:52Speaker 01

  Yes, they've been building for the last five years.

• 10:54Speaker 00

  I think it's, I think it's something, it's, it's a crazy stat, like in terms of regular season baseball, they've just ripped off wins.

• 11:00Speaker 01

  I, I knew that they were definitely the best team in baseball this year and going back to the second half of last year, but five years is crazy, but the Brewers.

• 11:07Speaker 00

  It might not be five, but it's a lot.

• 11:10Speaker 01

  They are, um, they are just very, very good at every single small detail involved in, like you can watch from the, the prep that they put into every at bat. They are like laser focused because you're right. They got, they got embarrassed by the Dodgers last year.

• 11:25Speaker 00

  They had the most wins the last three years. Last three years of baseball, they have the most wins. So it's not, yeah, it's not a fluke. It's not a fluke. They've been good every year. And if you go five, four years, they're just like five games behind the Dodgers. So they've just been good.

• 11:38Speaker 01

  And, um, yeah, going up against Yamamoto on the road for Yamamoto should be, what do you last? Two innings, two and two thirds?

• 11:45Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 11:46Speaker 01

  Um, yeah, Brewers, great story. And now they have to go back and because it's game three. Now they got Blake, do they have Blake Snell?

• 11:54Speaker 00

  I think it's Blake Snell. Yeah.

• 11:56Speaker 01

  So they have Blake Snell as a reward, but I, I feel like Brewers kind of got them where they want them psychologically, two in a row, started the series off. I like where it's going. And then the Dodgers are panicking now. They're, they're pulling every lever that they can because they know something's wrong. Um, so this is great. I know, maybe if you're a Cubs fan, you don't love the Brewers playing this good and, and, and look at this dangerous. I think everybody else loves the Brewers doing this.

• 12:22Speaker 00

  Yeah. I mean, I've, I've come to peace with it. It is what it is. They've been so good all year. I mean, they're just, they're, they're just exactly what you want out of a playoff baseball team where money moments, they're just, they always get the big hit. They always get the big strikeout. Like their, their bullpen is fucking nails. Uh, it's just, yeah, it's, and they're analytically like perfect. They just do things correct, the, the correct way. I can't stand Pat Murphy, but he's obviously an incredible manager. Like it just is what it is. And I, I don't know. I think the Dodgers will obviously, like, I don't think it's going to be a sweep, but to lose the Scoobal and Yamamoto starts is crazy.

• 13:02Speaker 01

  I think, I think it still might go seven, but, um, it's, it's a great start for the Brewers. Glasnow, I don't think has ever lost a postseason start with the Dodgers. I think, I think he's perfect. If, if I recall correctly, his ERA is like sub two. Um, and he's, he's been a very, very good postseason pitcher for the Dodgers. So I fully expect the Dodgers to win game three, regardless of if they have Shohei playing or not. It sounds like he is going to play.

• 13:28Speaker 00

  Yeah. He's been so, so bad. Uh, he hasn't hit a homerun since August 18th and he's definitely injured, but still he's been really, really bad. And now they're talking about maybe taking him out of the, the lineup.

• 13:40Speaker 01

  But there, I, I think I read earlier today, they're going to keep him in. Um, I think you have to play him. You gotta play, if you have fucking Shohei Ohtani, you have to put him out there in the playoffs.

• 13:51Speaker 00

  Yeah, I'd agree. Yeah. I mean, but he has been that bad. Like if he wasn't named Shohei Ohtani, he would, it'd be no question. The way he's hitting and the way he, he like looks lost at the plate.

• 14:04Speaker 01

  He does. And I think he had a, um, he got off to a slow start in the playoffs last year, if I remember correctly. He obviously more than corrected for that when he, uh, he ended up the championship series with the best baseball game ever played. But, um, it's been, it's been like months that he's been bad. So.

• 14:21Speaker 00

  So Tyler Glasnow, I looked it up.

• 14:24Speaker 01

  Possibly hit him. Yeah.

• 14:25Speaker 00

  Tyler Glasnow, the Dodgers, he has never recorded a win for the Dodgers in the playoffs. The Dodgers have never lost a game where he's pitched.

• 14:35Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 14:35Speaker 00

  That's pretty insane.

• 14:37Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 14:37Speaker 00

  So he, if you look, I mean, he was, he was a mix of starting and relieving last year and they won all of those games. And then this year he started, uh, the game against the Braves, but only went four and two thirds, but they won that game. So yeah, he's, I mean, that's the thing with the Dodgers. They just have, they're just like, oh, okay. Well, we lost the first two games. We have other Cy Young guys who are going to pitch now. So.

• 15:00Speaker 01

  Yep. It does feel like, uh, possible crash course of, of Brewers Rays.

• 15:07Speaker 00

  Yeah, I'm not, I'm not counting out the Guardians. I, I was wrong about the Guardians. After the first two games against the White Sox, I was very wrong. Hand up. They have a little bit of that mojo of like, they get the big hits and Jose Ramirez. I know tonight was a bad game for him, but like they have big guy moments and like, yeah, I'm not counting them out, especially with, if Gavin Williams can pitch two more times in this series, like that's pretty big. So.

• 15:29Speaker 03

  I've talked a lot of shit about Cleveland and deservedly so, Big Cat, but I feel like I, and so I, I get a lot of heat daily from, from their fans. And I've seen you catch some ricochets in the past few days with those.

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  What, with yours?

• 15:43Speaker 03

  Yeah. Just being like, fuck you, Cleveland. Like Cleveland's going to fucking kill you. And then like also like Big Cat, you too.

• 15:48Speaker 00

  Oh yeah. I mean, the only thing I said was I wasn't scared of their lineup through the first two games against the White Sox and I wasn't. And then they woke up like Jose Ramirez had a bad second half, and then he decided to be the clutches guy in the world and hit big, big hit after big hit. I was wrong about that. I did not think that he would all of a sudden just become Jose Ramirez again, which he did. So yeah, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not ruling out the Guardians to win this series against the Rays. I think they're very, very live in this, especially after splitting the first two. Um, and they, you know, chipping a chair, just getting to the, getting to the World Series, anything can happen, right? Maybe, maybe the, maybe the Brewers.

• 16:26Speaker 03

  The Brewers, like what you said is true. Like, like they, they, this is their championship. It's like the Spurs.

• 16:32Speaker 00

  Right, right. They've been building up for this moment. They might be ripe as someone in the AL to, to pick them off. Um, okay. So we recorded a bunch of the show earlier today back in studio. Two things that happened since then, uh, we're going to talk about Monday Night Football. Meeves got cut.

• 16:48Speaker 01

  Yep. Yep. Too bad.

• 16:51Speaker 00

  Meeves got cut and then they brought in Blake Groupie. It was basically they, they switched, uh, uh, what's Timon for Pumba? Who's the fat one?

• 17:02Speaker 01

  Pumba.

• 17:02Speaker 00

  Pumba. Pumba is the fat one. So they switched Pumba for Timon. Blake Groupie's like a buck 25.

• 17:09Speaker 01

  They're the exact opposite guy. Yeah. Blake Groupie is what, like when you close your eyes and you think of a kicker, you picture a guy like Blake Groupie. He's made out of entirely elbows. And then, yeah, I'm going to, I'm going to miss seeing Meeves out there. I want to see, I want to see, bring him back. Somebody, for the good of the league, somebody should sign Meeves.

• 17:25Speaker 00

  I also.

• 17:26Speaker 01

  What's going wrong? What's wrong, Max?

• 17:27Speaker 00

  He's laughing. Elbows everywhere.

• 17:29Speaker 02

  Made out of elbows is very funny. It's very funny.

• 17:32Speaker 01

  Look at him. Look at Blake Groupie.

• 17:34Speaker 02

  Cause I was looking at a picture of him as you were saying it and he does. He looks like he's made out of elbows.

• 17:39Speaker 01

  Yeah, he, he is. And then, and then Meeves is made out of elbow macaroni.

• 17:44Speaker 00

  The, uh, the, the kickers, you know how we have like, uh, alt cast for everything now? Like last night I got caught in an NFL Network alt cast. I didn't even know existed for Monday Night Football. Did you guys see that? There was just NFL Network had one Manning cast. How about an alt cast when a kicker misses a kick where they just have to sit in like, I don't even, it won't be the blue tent, whatever, any color tent. The kicker just sits in there with a GoPro and you just get to watch them. And like, they have to read the comments. That would be awesome. Imagine if the, if you, Meeves misses a kick and he just sits down and it's just the chat is just like fucking roasting him and he has to just read every single one.

• 18:24Speaker 01

  He has to interact with the chat.

• 18:25Speaker 00

  The highest watched alt cast after a big missed kick.

• 18:29Speaker 01

  What the fuck is, uh, is Pasquale in Staten Island saying about me?

• 18:33Speaker 00

  Why are these, keep saying that the chat's in Spanish?

• 18:36Speaker 01

  Yeah, that'd be, that'd be really fucked up mentally to do to a kicker. That'd be really, a really mean, a really mean thing too. By the way, I, I don't know if you guys caught this, but towards the end of the, uh, Commander's, or Commander's Giants game, when, um, when the Giants kicker missed that kick, I feel like Scataboo, I remember Scataboo getting up in his face and like screaming at him. I don't know if he was doing the Scataboo thing where he's like trying to motivate him. Um, but it looked like he wanted to fuck him up. Like.

• 19:03Speaker 00

  Good.

• 19:04Speaker 01

  Like violence. And then you have Scataboo go back and then he fumbled on that drive. Probably felt like an asshole after that. But yeah, I mean, I wouldn't, I wouldn't mind seeing kickers have to read the comments. I do. I, I also think we should have that camera that, that follows guys around until like, I want a close up on their face as they find out that there was a flag on the play that they thought they just scored a touchdown on.

• 19:24Speaker 00

  That worked too. I like that. The, uh, and then the other one was Montez Sweat got popped for PEDs, which I, I made the joke on Twitter, but it's got to be the easiest appeal ever because there's been no performance enhanced. Like you just have to show his stat sheet and be like, what are you talking about? I don't, I don't get how, I don't know. I don't get how you could get popped for them when he hasn't been playing well.

• 19:46Speaker 01

  Imagine, imagine how bad it would have been without the drugs.

• 19:49Speaker 00

  I guess, I guess credit to him for like trying everything. Like shout out him for being a team guy, being like, I gotta, I gotta get, I gotta get the best I can get. But that's a problem for the Bears.

• 20:00Speaker 01

  Is like, if you, if you get popped for PEDs, at least you're trying.

• 20:04Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Yeah.

• 20:05Speaker 01

  You care. Right? So yeah, end of the day, maybe not the worst thing. Also, like, if you, if you take steroids, how long does it take for the steroids to completely wear off? Like to, to lose all the good side effects from them? Cause I'm assuming he's been using them for a while. Working out, probably got really strong. Is he going to get weak in, in the next two weeks?

• 20:25Speaker 00

  But isn't it two, two games is light, right? Like if it was just straight up steroids, I thought it was more than that.

• 20:33Speaker 01

  I'm not exactly sure. Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of different could been Viagra.

• 20:38Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah. Either way, uh, I feel like they should appeal. Absolutely. Just like be like, oh, here's the all 22. There's no, there's no.

• 20:48Speaker 01

  Montez Sweat underrated, very cool, intimidating name.

• 20:52Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah. And I need, I mean, the Bears need him. So I, I hope he comes back and he's like, proves that, hey, it wasn't the PEDs. I'm, I still can be good, but, uh, yeah. And then there's weird like contract stuff too with it where I think his guaranteed money goes away. And now I don't know. We'll, we'll see. Uh, was there anything else that happened that we missed? I don't think so.

• 21:14Speaker 01

  Just looking through the news right now.

• 21:17Speaker 00

  Cause we did record earlier, so. Um, Hank, have you done your callouts?

• 21:23Speaker 01

  You did.

• 21:24Speaker 00

  Okay. So who you called out?

• 21:26Speaker 01

  Shocking.

• 21:28Speaker 00

  Just tell us real quick.

• 21:30Speaker 03

  I called out Donnie, PFT commentator, Jersey Jerry, Mike Grinnell.

• 21:34Speaker 00

  And that's all for straight up, no handicap?

• 21:37Speaker 03

  No handicap, straight up.

• 21:38Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 21:39Speaker 03

  Screwed up.

• 21:40Speaker 00

  Why don't you call out me and Max, me and Max in a scramble?

• 21:45Speaker 03

  I don't know. Cause we, I like to have fun with you guys.

• 21:47Speaker 00

  Okay. Well, all right. So you're scared of us scrambling.

• 21:50Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 21:51Speaker 00

  All right. All right. Fine. Pussy.

• 21:53Speaker 02

  That's a great duo right there.

• 21:55Speaker 00

  That's a, it's a win for us.

• 21:57Speaker 02

  All right. One, one L for one win for us.

• 22:00Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 22:01Speaker 01

  You like, you like to have fun with me, Jersey Jerry, Grinnell.

• 22:04Speaker 00

  Sound like it?

• 22:05Speaker 03

  No, I, I, I come, I show up to those matches strictly to win.

• 22:09Speaker 01

  It's business?

• 22:10Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 22:12Speaker 01

  What's very funny is that like, I was just sitting, I was minding my own business, just sitting down and then I got called out. And that's never happened to me before. And it's like, it's not a good feeling to get called out.

• 22:24Speaker 00

  Do you know what you should do, PFT?

• 22:26Speaker 01

  I, well, I, I sent to my lawyer to respond.

• 22:29Speaker 00

  Well, I was gonna say, you should call him out, righty.

• 22:33Speaker 01

  I don't want to do that. Okay. I'm not a call out guy.

• 22:36Speaker 03

  I would kill you, righty. I, I don't, this, this like,

• 22:41Speaker 00

  Oh no.

• 22:42Speaker 03

  I, I brought out the righty clubs the other day and it was so much better.

• 22:47Speaker 02

  Hank's right. We got one more, we got one more month of lefty Lockwood.

• 22:50Speaker 01

  Hank's right. We've played, we've played on camera a bunch of times when he's been right-handed and Hank, you've always beat me right-handed on camera, haven't you?

• 22:57Speaker 03

  No, that's true. Uh, I want to, the real, I want to beat Max. I mean, I want to beat PFT, Jerry and Donnie. Just so that I can say when I switch back righty, that when they chirp me, I can be like, well, I beat you lefty and righty.

• 23:12Speaker 00

  Oh, okay.

• 23:13Speaker 01

  But you haven't beaten me either lefty or righty on camera.

• 23:16Speaker 03

  But, but I'll be lefty and then we'll have plenty of time to be righty. I mean, we can do it in the same day if you want.

• 23:21Speaker 00

  Wow.

• 23:22Speaker 01

  Thirty-six, thirty-six holes?

• 23:24Speaker 03

  Nine, nine, nine holes.

• 23:25Speaker 00

  Nine hole call out. It's a nine hole card. It's, it's, it's a little baby boy call out.

• 23:30Speaker 03

  Yeah. I mean, listen, Phil, it's not, it's, it's a lot to ask. I'm, I'm not.

• 23:33Speaker 01

  You're gonna beat me 18 holes, righty and lefty. Are you gonna have your own cart and you're gonna have two sets of clubs in your cart?

• 23:41Speaker 03

  Yeah. Or I could just do 14 clubs total, but that would be harder.

• 23:46Speaker 03

  Or I can just switch after nine.

• 23:47Speaker 01

  I don't, I don't know. I didn't know how to take it, getting called out by a guy that has literally never beaten me. I'm,

• 23:56Speaker 01

  it's like, all right, come get your spanking. I didn't know if this was like a sex ritual thing where you have a kink of like getting humiliated.

• 24:02Speaker 00

  Kink, kink?

• 24:02Speaker 01

  Fast forward two months, it's gonna be Hank doing it.

• 24:05Speaker 03

  Talks about the, like, PFT has been horrible. Like, we've been playing and, and, and the grudge match got all the, all the blame and, and, and bad put on me, but like,

• 24:14Speaker 01

  We use more of my shots.

• 24:16Speaker 03

  I don't know if that's true.

• 24:17Speaker 01

  Oh, yes. Way more.

• 24:19Speaker 03

  We use a lot of Gruden's and a lot of my drives.

• 24:21Speaker 01

  Did use a lot of Gruden's, but just fast forward like a month from now. It's, uh, it's Friday. All right, Hank, what's your fire fest? Um, so there's like some videos now that are, we, the clips, the clip culture, some stuff out of context, and I lost a PFT again. How many times are we gonna do this?

• 24:39Speaker 00

  I'm excited. This is making me very excited.

• 24:42Speaker 02

  That was a great question, big cat. That was a great question.

• 24:45Speaker 00

  Yeah. Great question.

• 24:47Speaker 02

  I was not expecting this, this feud to pop up out of nowhere.

• 24:52Speaker 01

  I got called out.

• 24:53Speaker 03

  It's just facts.

• 24:54Speaker 01

  You ever been called out, Max? It's hard not to take it personally.

• 24:57Speaker 00

  Yeah. That's a serious business. Well, no, we, we almost got called out, but Hank's too much of a pussy to call us out.

• 25:03Speaker 01

  Yeah. Consider yourself lucky.

• 25:06Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 25:07Speaker 01

  I would wish it on my, my worst enemy. Couldn't called out like that.

• 25:11Speaker 00

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• 27:56Speaker 00

  And that's what I felt like. The first half was slow, but the second half, I think it was, what, six, the, the final six possessions of the game were touchdown drives. Josh Allen versus Matthew Stafford duel. Josh Allen with his feet, Matthew Stafford throwing to Puka Nakua. And we're gonna talk about both teams, but as, as has happened in the past, Sean McVay's, uh, inability to have a good special teams where he just says, hey, you know what? Let's, let's build an off and awesome offense. Defense wasn't awesome last night. Uh, and we'll just forget about special teams and we'll just be so good in the other phases. It won't matter. Hit him again because Meevis, I know it got blocked. That kick was not going in.

• 28:40Speaker 00

  And Sean McVay, I don't understand why he turtled at the end of the game being like, hey, let's, uh, we're in field goal range. Let's just, let's just run the ball into the middle. Let's, let's be conservative after he shredded the Bills the entire second half and hope that fat Meevis can make a kick.

• 28:55Speaker 01

  Meevis, uh, well, it was third and five, right? It was third and five and, and McVeigh said, I'll run the ball up the middle.

• 29:01Speaker 00

  But third and five, they, they got the first down and then they kind of pu- pumped the brakes on the offense.

• 29:08Speaker 01

  They, they ran the ball up the middle and, uh, took the ball out of Stafford's hand.

• 29:11Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 29:11Speaker 01

  Which is not what you want to do in overtime. I mean, listen, this is a game it delivered when we thought the Bills and the Rams, we thought there's gonna be like two really, really good teams. It did feel like a football game. So like the criticism of McVeigh, I think it's, it's legit, but it's also, it's two really good teams. So, so it was gonna come down to the small, small mistakes and decision-making.

• 29:31Speaker 00

  But the small mistakes always are the special teams for the Rams and they always, they have the worst special teams again through five weeks. They could have had another Super Bowl ring last year if it weren't for their special teams. Remember the muff kick against the Seahawks, the NFC championship game? Like, they just don't have good special teams and it's every single year. It's crazy.

• 29:52Speaker 01

  The, uh, the kickoff return especially was bad last night.

• 29:55Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 29:57Speaker 01

  I, I do think this is more like, how much more leeway do the Rams have before they dig themselves in a hole that they can't get out of?

• 30:04Speaker 00

  They're fine. If you're gonna look for a bet right now, take the Rams over 10 and a half wins. They are fine.

• 30:11Speaker 01

  So they sit at two and three.

• 30:12Speaker 00

  Have you seen their schedule?

• 30:13Speaker 01

  I was looking at the schedule earlier today.

• 30:15Speaker 00

  They are.

• 30:16Speaker 01

  It softens up nicely for them.

• 30:17Speaker 00

  They're going to be, I'll say they'll be seven and three, or six and four at worst, seven and three most likely. Going into the Packers game on Thanksgiving.

• 30:27Speaker 01

  Okay. So looking ahead, they got the Cardinals, they got the Raiders, they got the Chargers, they got the commanders, they got the Cardinals again.

• 30:35Speaker 00

  So those five games, they're gonna go four and one in those games. I feel pretty confident.

• 30:39Speaker 01

  They probably will go four and one. If they don't, then it's a real problem. Um, I think it's probably already to the point where they've, they fucked up home field advantage for themselves.

• 30:50Speaker 00

  They still get to play Seahawks twice.

• 30:52Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 30:52Speaker 00

  So you win those games and, and anything can happen. But yeah, I would, I would not be worried about the Rams other than the special teams. Like, I don't think this team is still good. The offense is still good. The defense needs Myles Garrett. The, the special teams is just atrocious. And every single year, they do this. And every single year, it costs them in a high leverage game. And it's just, it's the same thing over and over.

• 31:14Speaker 01

  I'm going to watch this Meeves kick again here and see if we can tell anything. I, I don't know if you can tell if it's going in or not. But the problem is.

• 31:21Speaker 00

  They can't block.

• 31:22Speaker 01

  It got, yeah, you can't, you can't block on it.

• 31:24Speaker 00

  It's not all Meeves. They can't block.

• 31:25Speaker 01

  Credit to the Bills line on that play for, for running something that worked and fucking up kind of like the interior right side of it. But, um.

• 31:33Speaker 00

  Yeah, it's not saying the Rams special teams is bad is not just like, oh, they have bad kickers. That's not it. They have bad coverage. They have bad blocking. Like every single year, it happens.

• 31:43Speaker 01

  Yeah, the blocking was bad. The blocking was really, really bad on that. But also, yeah, there, there's other points in that game that you could question some decision making too. Um, the Bills, Josh Allen with his feet. Troy Aikman kept saying like, yeah, this guy's actually, he's a triple threat because he can beat you with his arm, his legs, or his brain.

• 32:03Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 32:03Speaker 01

  Usually you very rarely get the triple threat. What about the heart? Is there a quadruple threat quarterback?

• 32:07Speaker 00

  It might be.

• 32:08Speaker 01

  The balls, a quintuple threat quarterback. But yeah, Allen had an amazing night running the football last night. Unstoppable running the football.

• 32:15Speaker 00

  It's, the Bills are the exact same team they've been every single year in that their defense is a weakness. Although their defensive line played like decently well. They got after staffers, especially in the first half. Josh Allen has to be Superman for them to win football games.

• 32:30Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 32:30Speaker 00

  Against really good opponents. Bad opponents, they can win. Good opponents, playoff teams. Josh Allen has to be, he had to be, he had to put on the cape that last quarter and, you know, just start running every single time he, he was given a lane.

• 32:45Speaker 01

  What I'm seeing from Joe Brady this year is they are, they are a lot of the same Bills that we saw in the past. They're just more of the same Bills. Just like they're doing the same stuff, but they're doing it harder.

• 32:54Speaker 00

  Yeah. I mean, DJ Moore is very significant. When he's not playing, it does feel like they don't have enough guys who can get open on their own.

• 33:02Speaker 01

  It looked like last year. Yeah. With no DJ Moore, when he is playing, it's, he is a difference maker because he's a truly elite talent. When he's on the field, when he's off, the, the, the team looked very similar, except Josh Allen somehow looks like he's getting better.

• 33:15Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 33:16Speaker 01

  Year over year.

• 33:16Speaker 00

  James Cook, uh, keeps fumbling. I feel like that's, that just keeps, keeps happening. Hank,

• 33:24Speaker 00

  you had this as a scheduled loss for the Bills.

• 33:28Speaker 03

  No, not necessarily.

• 33:29Speaker 00

  No, because remember we had the conversation about you, you, the.

• 33:33Speaker 01

  Destiny.

• 33:33Speaker 00

  AFC East goes through.

• 33:35Speaker 03

  It does.

• 33:35Speaker 00

  The Patriots, but part of that was you beating the Raiders and the Bills losing to the Rams.

• 33:42Speaker 03

  Yes, but even still, the Patriots control their own destiny.

• 33:45Speaker 00

  Right.

• 33:45Speaker 03

  So.

• 33:47Speaker 00

  But did anything you saw last night change your opinion?

• 33:49Speaker 03

  No, the Bills are, the Bills are good. The Bills are really good. Like you said, they're the same Bills.

• 33:53Speaker 00

  They are.

• 33:53Speaker 03

  Josh Allen needs to be Superman. And then what happens is in the playoffs, like there's no room for error and one little error by someone, maybe not even Josh Allen, like that's how you win or lose games. So I don't, as good as they look, it's like they've looked this good for the last seven years. And gone, so it's like, they're, they're respectable opponent.

• 34:15Speaker 01

  It's actually.

• 34:15Speaker 03

  Good team.

• 34:16Speaker 01

  It demolishes the haters, the Patriots haters, uh, line of, of reasoning that the Bills haven't beaten any good teams.

• 34:22Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 34:23Speaker 01

  Completely destroys that because Rams I think are a good team.

• 34:25Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 34:26Speaker 03

  Definitely.

• 34:26Speaker 00

  They're two and three, but yes, they're a good team. So, all right. So here was the stat, by the way, uh, to back up everything I was saying about the special teams. The Rams are the only team in NFL history to have masked 400 total yards, gained 30 plus first downs, score five plus touchdowns, convert 50% of their third downs and have zero turnovers and lose the game. The Rams special team came into week five, ranked 32nd in DVOA. They've been 26 or worse in four of the last five seasons. And if you go by win probability lost, they lost minus 110% win probability over the course of the 2025

• 35:03Speaker 00

  season from special team snaps. In 2026, which is just five games, they've already lost minus 104% win probability in special teams.

• 35:12Speaker 01

  Special teams, a third of the game.

• 35:13Speaker 00

  It's, but maybe he just ignores it.

• 35:16Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 35:16Speaker 00

  I guess he didn't because he did fire the guy.

• 35:18Speaker 01

  Right.

• 35:19Speaker 00

  Last year, but like, they just aren't, that's just a philosophy, like the Rams is a philosophy. They just like, we'll make a super team and we'll figure out special teams later. It's like, and it rears its ugly ass.

• 35:31Speaker 01

  So it's actually not a third of the game. Um, obviously like nowhere near a third of the game by snap count. But when you look at how disproportionately it affects whether or not the Rams win or lose.

• 35:40Speaker 00

  It's.

• 35:41Speaker 01

  It's actually, it's actually half the game.

• 35:42Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 35:43Speaker 01

  For the Rams.

• 35:43Speaker 00

  It's not a third of the game, but it is, I, I always just go back to like, when you get in these big games, playoffs or regular season game against a, a comparable opponent, it, it's magnified because the, they're so equal in talent. What's the difference going to be? A lot of times it will be a special teams play.

• 36:01Speaker 01

  Yeah. Our, our guy, uh, uh, Paginotti, he, he keeps saying that they should get Taco Fall to play defensive line.

• 36:08Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 36:08Speaker 01

  On field goal attempts and just have him stand as close to the line of scrimmage as possible.

• 36:12Speaker 00

  Just jump.

• 36:12Speaker 01

  And just jump straight up in the air.

• 36:14Speaker 00

  Just jump. Uh, yeah. So yeah, that, that was Monday. It was a great Monday night football game.

• 36:19Speaker 01

  Also Aaron, Aaron Donald back.

• 36:21Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 36:22Speaker 01

  I think we can now say officially back.

• 36:24Speaker 00

  I'd agree.

• 36:24Speaker 01

  After his play last night.

• 36:25Speaker 00

  I'd agree. Trying to think if there's anything else that we.

• 36:28Speaker 01

  Yeah. And Pukunakua is just unstoppable.

• 36:30Speaker 00

  Pukunakua is, yeah. I mean, I feel like he got targeted 30 times.

• 36:34Speaker 03

  He, that was a catch, by the way.

• 36:35Speaker 00

  Which one?

• 36:36Speaker 03

  On the sideline.

• 36:37Speaker 00

  Yeah. Wait, he had so many.

• 36:40Speaker 03

  The one that got overturned where his foot, he like dragged his foot in.

• 36:46Speaker 03

  It hit the ground, but then like when the, the, the pellets started flying up, he was out of bounds.

• 36:52Speaker 00

  Honestly, he caught so many balls. I, I'm actually thinking of like three different times this happened. They said it was a process of a step. The process of a step. Okay. That's why he was out of bounds. Got it. He, yeah, I mean, he was so good.

• 37:06Speaker 03

  But it's also, I don't understand the NFL, like the, there was, it brought up the conversation a few years ago when I think it was T Higgins, like caught the ball and his heel hit the ground first in bounds. And then his foot came down out of bounds. And they said that wasn't a catch either. But if you do a toe drag, which is what Pukunakua did.

• 37:25Speaker 00

  This one? Because this one I thought was definitely out of bounds.

• 37:29Speaker 03

  No.

• 37:29Speaker 00

  Okay. Yes.

• 37:30Speaker 03

  It was that one. No, it was, it's this one.

• 37:32Speaker 01

  I think that, I think he is out of bounds.

• 37:34Speaker 00

  I think.

• 37:35Speaker 03

  His, it hits the ground, like his.

• 37:36Speaker 01

  Cause what we're talking about now is like the front cleats on his shoe landed first in bounds, but then as the toe came down, that's.

• 37:45Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah. You're right. I think that is in bounds.

• 37:48Speaker 03

  Right. But then when the, it's when the turf comes up or like the pellets come up, it looks like it's out of bounds, but it's in bounds.

• 37:55Speaker 00

  So the explanation was that it was one full step. So it's like a slide.

• 37:59Speaker 03

  But what's a toe drag? That's where it's like, what's?

• 38:01Speaker 01

  I think that's out of bounds.

• 38:02Speaker 03

  What's a toe drag then? That's not a full step.

• 38:04Speaker 00

  Well, it's a toe tap. So the toe tap is the process.

• 38:08Speaker 01

  His cleats tapped, not the toe. The cleats tapped, and then the toe came down.

• 38:12Speaker 03

  So is the cleat not part of your toe?

• 38:14Speaker 01

  I don't know. This is where it's like, that to me looks, if you were to ask a drunk guy in a bar, and I've been a drunk guy in a bar plenty of times, that's not a catch.

• 38:23Speaker 00

  Yeah. When I was watching on TV last night, I was like, that's not a catch.

• 38:27Speaker 01

  He had an awesome game last night. That in particular, and he's so good that there's always, Pukunakua leads the league in spectacular almost catches. In addition to spectacular catches, he just makes so many of them that, yeah, there's going to be some that, that just barely don't break his way. That's very close to being a great catch. I would say it's not a catch.

• 38:46Speaker 00

  He also, Pukunakua leads the league. Like I don't, I don't understand the concussion spotter thing and how it works. I feel like he should have been spotted like six times last night. He was getting smoked.

• 38:59Speaker 01

  Yeah, I think.

• 39:00Speaker 03

  He's kind of got, he's, I feel like he's getting into like Gronk territory where he just kind of like, it feels like he's permanently concussed. So they never really, it's hard to gauge.

• 39:10Speaker 00

  Right.

• 39:10Speaker 03

  When he is concussed because he kind of just has that like.

• 39:13Speaker 00

  There was.

• 39:14Speaker 03

  Always, always concussed vibe.

• 39:16Speaker 00

  Yeah, there's multiple times where he took a hit over the middle. I was like, ooh, that was bad.

• 39:19Speaker 01

  It's like, how do you do the concussion protocol on Ben Mince?

• 39:22Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 39:23Speaker 01

  Like it's tough to, it's tough to really prove anything.

• 39:25Speaker 00

  Yeah. Okay. Any other, uh, any other stories for, or, or things we need to clean up from this weekend, week five, chaotic week five?

• 39:33Speaker 01

  I also think that the Rams will be fine. Just, just to be clear, but they're getting close to the level of being in a hole that is going to end up costing them at the end of the year somehow.

• 39:43Speaker 00

  I, yeah, I, I thought that for a second, then I looked at their schedule. So I just, it's kind of like my buy stocking Texans. Like there's, I think the schedule has just been, and like to go the other way, uh, I think the Chiefs have like a tough schedule coming up. So there's going to be, there were some disproportionate scheduling to start the season.

• 40:03Speaker 01

  I've just seen it enough where you have losses that, that add up, like the loss to the Broncos in a game that they should have won. The loss to the Bills in a game that they could have won. Those happen early in the season. They tend to manifest themselves later on in a way that you can't see coming, whether that's, uh, a race for higher seeding or, or even getting into the playoffs. Those things tend to come back around.

• 40:23Speaker 00

  Yeah. Yeah. Uh, okay. What else? What else? Anything else from week five? Hank?

• 40:29Speaker 03

  Any, any cleanup on the Dan Quinn press conferences? I feel like more details came out on Monday.

• 40:34Speaker 00

  What was it more?

• 40:34Speaker 01

  So many details.

• 40:36Speaker 03

  Just, I guess the blame.

• 40:37Speaker 01

  There's no details. It's just basically more people having opinions on it. And sometimes you listen back to the things that you say on the show and you're like, I wish I could have said that. I think I nailed my response to what happened. Fucking nailed it. A plus. I graded myself out. A plus.

• 40:52Speaker 00

  Cause it is 100%, 100%.

• 40:54Speaker 01

  Actually, no, B plus, because I'll, I'll walk back one thing. I'll say it's 100% on Jaden Daniels. And then it's, I'm going to reduce blame on Dan Quinn and say it is 100% Jaden Daniels, 75% on David Blau, 25% on Dan Quinn. I think Dan Quinn is doing a, what Hank?

• 41:19Speaker 03

  You know the team better isn't like they Blau is the play caller Dan Quinn is like he's the one that's supposed to have the like clock management like that's his main job.

• 41:28Speaker 01

  Yeah, but where I think and it's impossible to tell because.

• 41:31Speaker 03

  But it's not it's a play caller's fault.

• 41:33Speaker 01

  It's impossible to tell what happened because everybody's gonna lie about it and you're gonna have every guy saying like that's on me and so we're never gonna know exactly what happened which was in a situation like this.

• 41:44Speaker 00

  Jaden kinda did say it was on the coaching.

• 41:46Speaker 01

  That's what I said after the game which is when he was like when he he tried to take responsibility he said top down like kind of a scummy move if that ends up not being like if if the coaching staff had nothing to do with it pretty scummy move for him to say that. In a situation where the fans are like we we have to know what happened we have to know they should release all the communications.

• 42:09Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 42:09Speaker 01

  They should like release the audio from what happened I want to know exactly what what went down at the end I suspect that it's David Blau because everybody's lying about it it sounds like they're trying to do two things one protect Jaden two protect David Blau first year signal caller and they have a lot of faith in him as like a future offensive mind they don't want to throw him under the bus for this the play call that they put in at the end made no sense the substitution made no sense I know Chris Paul said that they knew that there was a timeout left the way that every player on the field reacted after Jaden went down getting back to the line of scrimmage no sense of urgency so I guess not everybody knew that there was a there were no timeouts left I think it was

• 42:50Speaker 01

  a bad play call a bad situational awareness by the offensive coordinator and Dan Quinn is gonna take a lot of the blame for it because it does fall under like his decision making but I think if you're gonna put blame on coaching staff it's probably the offensive coordinator who's doing most of the talking to the quarterback there and almost every former quarterback that I've heard break this down of course they're never gonna blame it on the quarterback because they're quarterbacks the Dan Orlovskis of the world but everybody that's talking about it is saying like yeah good coordinators will tell you awareness which I think is is disrespectful to Jaden acting like he doesn't have any responsibility in this like he can't think for himself at the end of the game it's definitely on him

• 43:32Speaker 01

  100% but it's also if you're gonna put blame on coaching staff I think it's probably on the OC and Dan Quinn is falling of the sword that's what I think he said he said Dan Quinn goes he's furious about our execution it took entirely too long no one's madder than Dan Quinn about their execution except the state of Tennessee this week but it's bad it's bad and the good news is if you look at what's coming up this week we got the 49ers on Monday night football.

• 44:00Speaker 00

  Nice.

• 44:02Speaker 01

  That means there's no better opportunity to get people to stop talking about what happened than if you go into Santa Clara and you beat the 49ers on Monday night football.

• 44:11Speaker 03

  So true.

• 44:12Speaker 01

  There there is there is that window where that would that would you have the opportunity to take what should be a fireable offense for Dan Quinn and fix it almost immediately so that Dan Quinn can then go on to have his next fireable offense.

• 44:25Speaker 03

  Well flip side maybe this is a good thing because like fireable fence people are calling for his job but they go out and get like 40 piece by the 49ers.

• 44:33Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 44:34Speaker 03

  He's fired on Monday.

• 44:36Speaker 01

  Probably.

• 44:37Speaker 00

  Also might be a good thing because Jaden Daniels will pay more attention to situational awareness now like that was a good learning lesson.

• 44:43Speaker 03

  Yeah is it like high school like in the pros where like they just they come into practice Monday and they just like do end of game plays for like the whole practice like no ball we're just gonna run through end of game situations.

• 44:53Speaker 01

  You have a you have a ball though in end of game.

• 44:55Speaker 03

  No I know but like you know what I'm talking about like we're we're strictly going through yeah.

• 45:00Speaker 01

  I think Jaden needs to program some last second spikes into his virtual reality simulator.

• 45:05Speaker 00

  Mm hmm.

• 45:06Speaker 01

  I think that would help he probably doesn't practice those in VR in the metaverse but I I I have to assume that they practice that anyways but if they go out they get killed by the by the Niners yeah Dan Quinn very likely would be fired at that point and then Anthony Lynn takes over but yeah there's a there's a lot of other stuff that I watched back in that game where it's inexcusable that the game even went to overtime with a 14-point lead in the fourth quarter.

• 45:31Speaker 03

  What if you guys get Harbaugh?

• 45:34Speaker 01

  Which one?

• 45:36Speaker 03

  John or Jim.

• 45:37Speaker 01

  Oh I thought special teams maybe the Sun.

• 45:40Speaker 03

  No.

• 45:41Speaker 01

  Why would we get Harbaugh?

• 45:43Speaker 03

  He's gonna get fired Dan Quinn's gonna get fired.

• 45:47Speaker 01

  Why would we get Harbaugh?

• 45:48Speaker 03

  Why not?

• 45:49Speaker 00

  Yeah why not?

• 45:49Speaker 03

  You gotta get someone.

• 45:50Speaker 01

  We do have to get somebody that's a good point I think that maybe there's a chance that Josh Harris just completely focused on coddling LeBron right now and isn't even paying attention to the losses.

• 46:00Speaker 03

  No he's got magic in his in his in his ear.

• 46:03Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 46:03Speaker 01

  That's another thing I want to talk about later.

• 46:05Speaker 00

  What?

• 46:06Speaker 01

  I gotta hmm we can save that we can save that for baseball talk.

• 46:10Speaker 00

  Okay, okay.

• 46:12Speaker 01

  But yeah so where I'm at is 100% on Jaden 75% on David Blau 25% on Dan Quinn but Dan Quinn's gonna end up taking 200% of the accountability for it.

• 46:22Speaker 00

  And Jaden's gonna take zero.

• 46:24Speaker 01

  Probably yeah probably because I mean we still believe in him as a franchise quarterback and I I do I don't think this hasn't affected like it makes me question his like where his head was at in the last second but in terms of is he the future quarterback yes 100%.

• 46:39Speaker 00

  Okay any other any other what's what's is Nick Sirianni whatever he's just fine he's gonna be.

• 46:49Speaker 01

  Yeah I'll be fine.

• 46:50Speaker 00

  You figure it out you'll figure it out.

• 46:52Speaker 01

  This is kinda what this is kinda what happens everyone gets super mad on.

• 46:55Speaker 00

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• 48:46Speaker 03

  My hot seat's the Bay Area.

• 48:48Speaker 00

  Oh. Why Rich Bay you see the Cal the Cal's uniforms?

• 48:54Speaker 03

  Yeah those are cool.

• 48:55Speaker 00

  Helmets the Grateful Dead those are sick.

• 48:57Speaker 03

  Cause I this is this might be a little you know taking it two steps too far in a conspiracy theory but

• 49:06Speaker 03

  obviously everyone talks about the substation with the 49ers and that you know.

• 49:09Speaker 00

  Kristaps?

• 49:10Speaker 03

  The yeah the Brandon Iuk situation like they put that on the substation he stopped showing up to practice no one knew knew where he was or what was going on like they would ask him and and the coaches and players were just like we don't know.

• 49:21Speaker 01

  Maybe the biggest sign that he was insane was that he wanted to join the commanders.

• 49:24Speaker 03

  Yeah but now Kristaps Porzingis is doing the same thing he's on the Warriors in the Bay Area and and he's not he's just not showing up to practice like in in the team and players like just don't know where he is it's not he obviously has had health issues last like couple of years and like somewhat of a mystery like even on the Celtics.

• 49:43Speaker 00

  Big mystery.

• 49:43Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 49:44Speaker 03

  But now he's just now he's just disappeared now I'm I'm starting to think if that substation just you know it's bigger than the 49ers it's just something something in the Bay.

• 49:52Speaker 01

  I like you tying it all together Kristaps is the guy that if there's anybody that's missing time with a mystery injury it's it's him and I've seen so he's probably the guy that people vague post the most about like people are always saying like everyone knows where it is but no one wants to say it.

• 50:08Speaker 03

  But now he's just not even he's nowhere to be found it's not even like it's it's and when the when the coaches and players talk about it it's like yeah we don't know when he'll be back because we don't know where he is and like we're not you know he's not answering messages.

• 50:18Speaker 00

  Oh we have an update will be Kristaps Porzingis will be at the Warriors facility on Tuesday to meet with team's medical staff it remains unclear when Porzingis will be able to return.

• 50:27Speaker 01

  So he's a doctor's appointment.

• 50:28Speaker 00

  Not really an update.

• 50:29Speaker 01

  Breaking news he's scheduled he logged on to Zocdoc and he's seeing a doctor.

• 50:34Speaker 00

  It's it's very bizarre I don't know what's going on I hope he's okay but it's just it's very bizarre and like didn't Steve Kerr say something about it last year but it was like kinda like hey HIPAA what like so then Kristaps maybe I don't know it's weird yes Steve Steve Kerr said you hadn't seen him yet.

• 50:55Speaker 01

  It's really strange.

• 50:56Speaker 00

  So with the Bay Area do you think maybe it's Zodiac Killer?

• 51:02Speaker 03

  Maybe.

• 51:02Speaker 00

  Did you guys see that article on Substack?

• 51:05Speaker 01

  On Zodiac?

• 51:07Speaker 00

  Yes some guy was like I'm pretty sure my dad's Zodiac Killer.

• 51:09Speaker 03

  But there's been like.

• 51:10Speaker 00

  And here's why.

• 51:11Speaker 03

  Three guys that have done that.

• 51:12Speaker 00

  I know but it was pretty compelling.

• 51:14Speaker 01

  That's like it's a new trend where if you want to blow up on TikTok you just accused one of your family members of being a serial killer I oh shit I was going through my grandfather's shed.

• 51:23Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 51:23Speaker 01

  And I found that's like that's better than leaving them money is when you die just leave them evidence that you're a serial killer and let them reap all the benefits on social media.

• 51:31Speaker 00

  I think this guy's dad was still alive he's it was I haven't seen all the other ones I just saw this one I read it and I was like yep throw away the key he's he's guilty.

• 51:41Speaker 01

  I think they found they found the guy right?

• 51:43Speaker 00

  Who?

• 51:44Speaker 01

  I think the cops.

• 51:45Speaker 00

  Zodiac Killer?

• 51:46Speaker 01

  I think so I think that they're like a couple of years ago they figured out who it was.

• 51:50Speaker 03

  I thought the same thing it was another no it was another kid that like accused his dad.

• 51:54Speaker 01

  That was another guy that was doing it for I for internet points.

• 51:57Speaker 00

  We might be talking about the same person because I think.

• 51:59Speaker 03

  That one was in the documentary though.

• 52:01Speaker 00

  Oh oh got it but that's also how the fucking BTK guy remember he was just a regular guy and then his family was like well no he he fucked up sending in didn't he ask someone like hey floppy disk can't be traced the metadata can't be traced and they were like yeah or the cops are like yeah no problem send it in he sent it in they're like idiot dumbass I don't know where the the BTK hold on I'll see.

• 52:29Speaker 01

  That's the biggest come on man of all time.

• 52:31Speaker 00

  Dumbass. Picture look like anybody you know?

• 52:36Speaker 00

  I'm not gonna say.

• 52:39Speaker 01

  Yeah, I can see it.

• 52:41Speaker 02

  A handsome guy.

• 52:42Speaker 01

  Very handsome.

• 52:43Speaker 00

  Yeah, this is, uh, my dad.

• 52:44Speaker 01

  A lot of good golf courses in the Bay area.

• 52:45Speaker 00

  My dad may be the Zodiac Killer. And then he went on to explain, it was a good article.

• 52:50Speaker 01

  Zodiac, he was left-handed, right?

• 52:53Speaker 03

  Hmm. Was he?

• 52:56Speaker 00

  Hmm.

• 52:57Speaker 01

  Hmm.

• 52:58Speaker 00

  Interesting.

• 53:00Speaker 03

  Speaking of that, so kind of not really, but, uh.

• 53:03Speaker 01

  Oh, he, it might've been ambidextrous, is what I'm saying.

• 53:05Speaker 03

  Oh. Now we're talking.

• 53:06Speaker 01

  Interesting.

• 53:07Speaker 00

  Interesting.

• 53:08Speaker 03

  Great ones always are. Uh, my cool throne is, I guess, just the haters.

• 53:15Speaker 01

  Congrats to the haters.

• 53:17Speaker 03

  Liv is dead. This is it.

• 53:19Speaker 00

  What?

• 53:20Speaker 03

  This is it.

• 53:20Speaker 01

  We gotta have.

• 53:21Speaker 00

  What?

• 53:22Speaker 03

  The final time.

• 53:23Speaker 00

  No.

• 53:25Speaker 03

  That I will ever bring up, or Liv 2.0 is dead.

• 53:28Speaker 01

  So Liv 3.0, loading.

• 53:31Speaker 03

  I think it's, I think, I think.

• 53:32Speaker 00

  What happened?

• 53:33Speaker 03

  Listen, I think sometimes in, in, in golf and in life, you try and do something to, to disrupt the industry and, and make a, make a, make a splash and, and maybe you're just wrong. Maybe you're, you were wrong and you just never should've went down that path in the first place.

• 53:47Speaker 01

  Or maybe it's the haters that, that ruined it. It would've worked if it weren't for the naysayers.

• 53:51Speaker 03

  Yeah, maybe, yeah, maybe they had fun doing it, but like, it was like the, the, the haters and, and the people, you know, dismissing you, just it ended up being correct.

• 53:59Speaker 00

  May we do an impromptu press conference? Would you be taking questions right now?

• 54:04Speaker 03

  Sure.

• 54:05Speaker 00

  Okay. Uh.

• 54:07Speaker 03

  Yeah, big cat.

• 54:08Speaker 00

  Uh, hey, Henry, uh, Dan Katz, pardon my take here. Quick question. So you said Liv is dead in your, uh, statement that you just read to us, pre-written statement, really good job. You said Liv is dead. Do you have any regrets knowing that you caped and, uh, soapboxed and, and rode so hard for Liv? And you got zero dollars from it when they were giving out millions and millions of dollars to people?

• 54:35Speaker 03

  My passion for golf is not tied, uh, financially. It's, it's just something that I, I love and I, I love the game of golf and I love watching golf. So when, no, I do not feel any regret about that. I did not, I did not become a fan because I was thinking about making money off it.

• 54:51Speaker 00

  What if I told you Liv was gonna offer you $5 million three years ago and you didn't do it? Would you regret that?

• 54:58Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 54:58Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 54:59Speaker 03

  That did not happen.

• 55:00Speaker 00

  Yeah, but what if they did?

• 55:01Speaker 03

  Then it would be a regret, but it did not happen.

• 55:03Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 55:04Speaker 01

  Hank, I have a question.

• 55:04Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 55:05Speaker 01

  A PFT from Pardon My Take. No, you don't get to say that. You know, only memes, only memes.

• 55:11Speaker 01

  Is this a bit premature?

• 55:13Speaker 03

  No, so the news.

• 55:14Speaker 01

  Don't the players have until August or October 25th?

• 55:17Speaker 03

  The news came out that the DP World Tour will not, which previously they were allowed to, players in Liv were allowed to play DP World Tour events. DP World Tour came out and said that if you want to play on the DP World Tour, you can't play on Liv. And all of the good players on Liv want to play on the DP World Tour because that's their path to back the PGA Tour. So essentially no one, maybe some of the older guys that are like, we're not competing at a high level anymore. Maybe they stick around. Anyone that's good and young is not gonna make a deal where they cannot play DP World Tour events. So.

• 55:55Speaker 01

  Cameron Tringal. He's sticking around.

• 55:57Speaker 03

  He's old.

• 55:58Speaker 01

  He's sticking around. Don't dismiss him.

• 56:00Speaker 00

  So where are they, where are the old guys gonna play?

• 56:04Speaker 01

  Richard Bland. Where's he gonna go?

• 56:06Speaker 00

  Where are the old guys gonna play?

• 56:07Speaker 03

  I don't know. They might, um, they, they're.

• 56:09Speaker 00

  They're just like gonna go out and just play on, on a course and be like, this is Liv now?

• 56:12Speaker 01

  The senior Liv tour.

• 56:13Speaker 03

  That's pretty much what it's gonna be, if, if it even happens.

• 56:17Speaker 01

  The Champions Tour.

• 56:17Speaker 03

  But that's not worth talking about, so.

• 56:20Speaker 02

  None of this was worth talking about.

• 56:23Speaker 00

  Do you have any questions?

• 56:24Speaker 03

  I disagree with that.

• 56:25Speaker 02

  I don't, I don't care. I don't care. My, my question is, can we get to the next topic?

• 56:31Speaker 01

  I think that the only winner.

• 56:33Speaker 03

  That's it. That's why, that's my cool.

• 56:34Speaker 01

  There are a couple of winners when it comes to the Liv Golf Rangers. One, I think ultimately the PGA Tour ended up winning the, the pissing contest. But Brooks Koepka played it just about perfectly.

• 56:43Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah.

• 56:43Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 56:44Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah. Big time.

• 56:48Speaker 00

  Hank, last question. If the Liv people were to contact you now

• 56:56Speaker 00

  and say, hey, we'd like to do something to keep this going in some capacity, would you take their phone call?

• 57:06Speaker 03

  I mean, I would, I would direct them to sales. We know, you know how this company works. We, we're, we're, we're the for-profit business. If, if a company wants to offer money to promote.

• 57:15Speaker 02

  I'm down to change my tune on Liv.

• 57:16Speaker 03

  Yeah, like, that's, that's like.

• 57:18Speaker 02

  I'm, I'm open to business.

• 57:19Speaker 03

  If they wanted to do it for nothing, no.

• 57:22Speaker 00

  If Liv wants to give us their IP, we'll, we'll just change it into, like, we'll just make the Liv accounts all just Pardon My Take Golf. And we'll invite some of these old guys to come play golf with us, make a video, like, what's his name? What was the old guy's name?

• 57:36Speaker 03

  Tringali.

• 57:37Speaker 00

  Tringali. You ever fucking sprint on a 400-yard, uh, par four, buddy?

• 57:41Speaker 01

  Bland, Victor Perez. All the big names in golf.

• 57:46Speaker 01

  Is this the worst thing Saudi Arabia's ever been accused of funding?

• 57:48Speaker 03

  That was a made up name.

• 57:49Speaker 01

  I think it probably is.

• 57:50Speaker 03

  Victor Perez?

• 57:51Speaker 00

  Victor Perez sounds good.

• 57:52Speaker 03

  Who is that?

• 57:53Speaker 01

  Who's Victor Perez? I don't know what team he's on.

• 57:55Speaker 00

  You know Victor Perez?

• 57:56Speaker 01

  Yeah, I thought I read his name the other day.

• 57:58Speaker 00

  He finished second in, uh.

• 57:59Speaker 03

  I think you're thinking of a.

• 58:00Speaker 01

  Yeah, he plays on the Liv Golf Tour.

• 58:02Speaker 03

  What?

• 58:03Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 58:03Speaker 00

  Yeah, look at that.

• 58:04Speaker 02

  Wow.

• 58:05Speaker 00

  Wow.

• 58:06Speaker 03

  I thought you were talking about.

• 58:08Speaker 00

  Wow, idiot. He's 6'6".

• 58:11Speaker 01

  Dude, he's been playing on Kleaks Golf Club since November 2025.

• 58:16Speaker 00

  Pat Perez. Maybe if you knew who Victor Perez was, Liv would've survived.

• 58:19Speaker 03

  Yeah. But he's in.

• 58:21Speaker 02

  PFT, that might be our Liv guy.

• 58:23Speaker 03

  This is a DP World Tour event, so he's gonna be, keep playing on that.

• 58:27Speaker 01

  Well, yeah, that's why he.

• 58:28Speaker 03

  I thought you were talking about Pat Perez, former ace, my bad.

• 58:30Speaker 01

  No, I'm talking about Kleaks. You don't know Kleaks, bro.

• 58:33Speaker 03

  No, you're right. I was never much of a Kleaker.

• 58:35Speaker 01

  More of a Cheeks guy.

• 58:38Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 58:38Speaker 00

  All right, PFT?

• 58:39Speaker 01

  Uh, my hot seat is Shohei Ohtani.

• 58:42Speaker 00

  By the way, Liv is not dead on this podcast. We will definitely.

• 58:44Speaker 03

  Yes, it is for me.

• 58:45Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's, they have a lead investor.

• 58:49Speaker 01

  Uh, Shohei Ohtani is on the hot seat because the Dodgers are openly talking about possibly benching him because he's been so bad for the last, what, two months now?

• 58:59Speaker 00

  Yeah, he hasn't hit a homerun since August 18th.

• 59:01Speaker 01

  And his, the, uh.

• 59:04Speaker 02

  We probably have already talked about this.

• 59:05Speaker 00

  We probably have already talked about this.

• 59:07Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 59:07Speaker 00

  Yeah, just because we're gonna do baseball. So we're definitely gonna talk about Shohei being benched.

• 59:13Speaker 01

  Okay, uh, we can cut that then.

• 59:19Speaker 02

  Sorry, I feel like that's just gonna.

• 59:20Speaker 00

  Well, cause, yeah, I'm definitely gonna bring it. I was definitely.

• 59:22Speaker 02

  Do you need a hot seat?

• 59:23Speaker 01

  Well, no, no, cause it, that, when I said I had something else I wanted to get into about baseball. I guess I can still do that with this. I can still do that with this.

• 59:32Speaker 02

  Do you need a hot seat?

• 59:33Speaker 01

  Uh, no, no.

• 59:34Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 59:35Speaker 01

  So I said I had some more baseball stuff to get into today. I'm gonna put the, the windy, windy fingers up and say what is going on truly with Shohei. Because you look at when this cold streak started and it was what, August 18th? I believe the Los Angeles Lakers were sold on August 17th. And I believe news of the investigation kind of hit a peak shortly thereafter. And if you look too deep into it, you see that Walter, the, the former owner of the Lakers, current owner still of the Dodgers, also has some shady business arrangements going on that allowed him to purchase the Dodgers in the first place.

• 1:00:20Speaker 01

  Namely, selling a company to Magic Johnson for $350 million to make Magic Johnson a billionaire, welcoming him in as the owner of, or to be able to buy the Dodgers. It was kind of a move to get, uh, the former Dodgers ownership and everything pulled in via Magic Johnson and possibly that transaction for $350 million to get him to become owner of the Los Angeles Dodgers.

• 1:00:47Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:00:47Speaker 01

  Then there's a lot of questions about what's going on with, uh, the different contracts that the Dodgers are allowed to offer players.

• 1:00:54Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 1:00:55Speaker 01

  Is that money, does it actually exist? I just think it's interesting timing.

• 1:00:59Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:00:59Speaker 01

  That as this investigation against the owner hits a fever pitch, that's exactly when Shohei Ohtani stops hitting. Yeah, he's also been hurt. But I mean, that's.

• 1:01:10Speaker 00

  But he's also stopped hitting.

• 1:01:11Speaker 01

  That's also like the best baseball player in the world not being able to hit anymore.

• 1:01:15Speaker 00

  And not this year.

• 1:01:17Speaker 01

  And not this year, uh, but when he does hit, he's slapping 70 mile an hour singles to left field. I just think that's interesting. That's all.

• 1:01:25Speaker 00

  Yeah, he's got, he's been bad.

• 1:01:27Speaker 01

  Do you guys think?

• 1:01:27Speaker 00

  Interesting.

• 1:01:28Speaker 01

  Anyone else think that's interesting?

• 1:01:29Speaker 00

  I definitely think that's interesting.

• 1:01:31Speaker 03

  Something, something's weird with him.

• 1:01:33Speaker 00

  Something's up. Something's up with the whole. I'm starting to think this Mark Walter guy might not be on the up and up.

• 1:01:39Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:01:40Speaker 02

  I'm not gonna lie, you lost me about halfway through that, but I agree.

• 1:01:43Speaker 00

  That's a good way to, good way to just move it on. That was good.

• 1:01:47Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:01:47Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:01:47Speaker 00

  Good job, Max.

• 1:01:49Speaker 01

  When people started talking about the owner of the Dodgers.

• 1:01:51Speaker 02

  Nah, we're good.

• 1:01:52Speaker 01

  That's when Ohtani started fucking up.

• 1:01:53Speaker 00

  Yeah. When he went under a microscope, Ohtani started sucking.

• 1:01:57Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:01:58Speaker 00

  Maybe Ohtani was told he's not gonna get paid and he needs to get paid because. Ipe.

• 1:02:05Speaker 02

  Got it.

• 1:02:06Speaker 01

  Yeah. And then there's a whole Ipe situation thrown into it too.

• 1:02:10Speaker 02

  You, you had me until you said Ipe.

• 1:02:12Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:02:12Speaker 01

  Okay, yeah, forget about that. Shohei Ohtani worried about money, owner Dodgers maybe not have all money to pay Shohei. Now Shohei suck.

• 1:02:23Speaker 02

  So he's sucking on purpose?

• 1:02:25Speaker 00

  No, he's thinking, something's on his mind, maybe.

• 1:02:27Speaker 02

  Got it.

• 1:02:28Speaker 01

  Hmm.

• 1:02:29Speaker 00

  All right. Distracting him.

• 1:02:30Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 1:02:31Speaker 00

  He hasn't been taking the cave parlay.

• 1:02:33Speaker 01

  You know what, Max? Look into it for me.

• 1:02:34Speaker 03

  I'll do it.

• 1:02:35Speaker 01

  Dude, if Ipe rode the cave parlay, we wouldn't be having this conversation.

• 1:02:38Speaker 00

  Yeah, Shohei. Yeah.

• 1:02:40Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:02:40Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:02:41Speaker 01

  Uh, my cool throne is books.

• 1:02:42Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 1:02:43Speaker 01

  We talked about books the other week because Alex Earl had never read one.

• 1:02:46Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 1:02:47Speaker 01

  The book that I mentioned, maybe my favorite book of my childhood is Becoming.

• 1:02:51Speaker 00

  Oh, yes.

• 1:02:52Speaker 01

  It's becoming a movie now, uh, Hatchet by Gary Paulson, right?

• 1:02:56Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:02:56Speaker 01

  They're making that into a movie.

• 1:02:58Speaker 00

  Can't wait.

• 1:02:58Speaker 01

  I have not been this fired up for a movie in a long time.

• 1:03:01Speaker 00

  Can't wait and can't wait to be able to say book was better.

• 1:03:03Speaker 01

  The book is better. This is gonna be like, when I read it in fifth grade, that was actually better. Now they're probably gonna make this movie, I would guess, for children.

• 1:03:13Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:03:14Speaker 01

  Right?

• 1:03:14Speaker 00

  No.

• 1:03:14Speaker 01

  Or is this gonna be, what they should do is they should market it to people that read that book when they were kids.

• 1:03:19Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:03:20Speaker 01

  And now they grow up and that's the only book they think about when they think about books they read.

• 1:03:24Speaker 02

  I think it'll be like a Stand By Me situation.

• 1:03:26Speaker 00

  Oh, Jerry O'Connell might be.

• 1:03:27Speaker 02

  Yeah. You know, like.

• 1:03:29Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:03:30Speaker 02

  Kind of for kids, but like also for adults.

• 1:03:32Speaker 01

  Maybe get Jerry O'Connell as the pilot at the start.

• 1:03:38Speaker 02

  Yeah. I don't see why not.

• 1:03:39Speaker 01

  I think he'd be good at that.

• 1:03:40Speaker 00

  I like this.

• 1:03:41Speaker 01

  He just farts on himself and has a heart attack.

• 1:03:43Speaker 00

  Yeah, this is a big one. Now they just gotta do The Giver.

• 1:03:46Speaker 01

  The Giver, that one is dark.

• 1:03:47Speaker 00

  Yeah, but that, but that was, maybe that, is that a movie?

• 1:03:50Speaker 01

  They might've tried that.

• 1:03:52Speaker 00

  The Giver of Mice and Men, The Hatchet. I think of Mice and Men as a movie, right?

• 1:03:57Speaker 01

  Yeah, with, uh, Gary Sinise and what's his name? Um, Malkovich, I think, is in that one.

• 1:04:02Speaker 00

  Okay, they did make The Giver.

• 1:04:05Speaker 00

  Yeah. All right. So we're good. We've made them all.

• 1:04:07Speaker 01

  So bring it. Yeah, I'm, I'm very excited about Hatchet, the movie.

• 1:04:10Speaker 00

  Yeah, me too.

• 1:04:11Speaker 01

  They gotta get the Hatchet right. The Hatchet has to be cast perfectly.

• 1:04:15Speaker 00

  What's the other one? What's the, what's the, is it White Fang? No.

• 1:04:18Speaker 01

  Yeah, White Fang. That was a good one. That was, um, was that Jack London?

• 1:04:21Speaker 00

  That was a movie too, I think.

• 1:04:23Speaker 02

  1984.

• 1:04:25Speaker 00

  1984, what did?

• 1:04:26Speaker 01

  The book?

• 1:04:26Speaker 00

  What are you talking about?

• 1:04:27Speaker 02

  Fahrenheit 451. I'm just naming books that I.

• 1:04:30Speaker 00

  Books that become movies?

• 1:04:32Speaker 01

  Books you read in, in high school.

• 1:04:33Speaker 02

  I, yeah, and then maybe even younger.

• 1:04:36Speaker 00

  I mean, I've said this before, but the hack is just read every Michael Lewis book. It always becomes a movie.

• 1:04:40Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:04:41Speaker 00

  Moneyball, Blind Side, Big Short. They just all become movies. It's very easy to do. And then you can just walk around and say, the book was better. And sound like you're, you're smart. And you're not, because you're me. Okay. My hot seat is, uh, the Tennessee Titans. We talked about Tennessee Titans, but Titans fan, Samuel Brown, RBT, had, went a little viral on Monday because he did a, uh, thread of the Titans since trading AJ Brown. And I want to read some of these things because I, I think we need to start putting more respect on Titans fans' pain and suffering because it's been really, really brutal.

• 1:05:22Speaker 00

  Uh, since trading AJ Brown, the Titans have the worst record in the NFL at 19 and 54. That's a lot of losses, not a lot of wins.

• 1:05:30Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 1:05:31Speaker 00

  Uh, eventually led to the firing of Mike Vrabel. The record since firing Mike Vrabel is 6 and 33. They have won two home games and one division game total in the last three season. Uh, three seasons. AJ Brown won a Super Bowl. Mike Vrabel made a Super Bowl. AJ Brown had more Super Bowl appearances with the Eagles than Traylon Burks had receiving touchdowns with the Titans. Traylon Burks, who they got in that, uh, trade. They have scored 17.2 points per game since the trade, the worst in the NFL. They let Derrick Henry walk. Then Derrick Henry has 732 more rushing yards and 22 more rushing touchdowns than the entire Titans running back room

• 1:06:13Speaker 00

  uh, since leaving. That's an insane one. Insane stat. Uh, they traded Malik Willis for a seventh rounder. He then beat them 27 days later as a starting quarterback for, by 16 points. Traded Kevin Byer to the Eagles for two draft picks. None of those players are still on the Titans two seasons later. They lost their radio guy to, to the University of Tennessee. They lost their hype man. Uh, I don't even know why that, that one, they just lost him. Uh, they've never replaced Lance Smith. Lowest attendance number since Nissan Stadium opened in 1999 and they dropped the Greek mythology bit from the Titans branding. So no one knows what the Titans even mean anymore. Brutal.

• 1:06:53Speaker 01

  I, you know what?

• 1:06:54Speaker 00

  Um, I feel bad for the Titans.

• 1:06:55Speaker 01

  Of all that, they gotta bring back Lance Smith. I feel, I feel like he's the key.

• 1:07:01Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:07:01Speaker 01

  The game day host.

• 1:07:02Speaker 00

  It sounds like Lance Smith was very, very important and Mike Keith.

• 1:07:05Speaker 01

  And Mike Keith and the Greek mythology bit from, from the logos. Yeah, it's been, it's been really, really bad.

• 1:07:10Speaker 00

  Just having it written out was like, oh man, we gotta put a little more respect on Titans fans, the sufferings, the suffering they've gone through.

• 1:07:16Speaker 01

  They seem like they skate a little bit when we're talking about the, the worst, most petty owners in sports.

• 1:07:21Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:07:23Speaker 01

  I think, you know what it was for me? When, when Vrabel went up to New England and they like honored him there during the bye week. And then he went back to Tennessee.

• 1:07:31Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:07:31Speaker 01

  And Tennessee caught big feelings about that. The ownership was like, what the fuck? Are you a Patriots guy? Are you a Titans guy?

• 1:07:38Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:07:38Speaker 01

  Like that told me that they're operating from a, a pretty bad position of insecurity in most things that they do.

• 1:07:45Speaker 00

  I'd agree. I'd agree. Uh, it's just for whatever reason, I think it's because they're one of the newer franchises and the color scheme. I don't know. It's just the Titans are really, they're going through it right now. So I feel bad for Titans fans. You, you are seen. Uh, shout out Samuel Brown at RBT for that thread to, to write it all out. I'd imagine he was like sobbing, lightly sobbing while writing that out and rightfully so. Uh, my cool throne is the Philadelphia Eagles because did Big Dom did a public appearance, uh, on Monday night and said he's gonna fix it.

• 1:08:17Speaker 01

  Yeah. Get things right on, back on track.

• 1:08:21Speaker 02

  He didn't say he was gonna fix it.

• 1:08:25Speaker 03

  Was he with Sirianni?

• 1:08:27Speaker 00

  No.

• 1:08:29Speaker 01

  They say we?

• 1:08:30Speaker 00

  Big Dom on stage promising Eagles will be fixed. Okay. So Eagles will be fixed. You're right. Eagles will be fixed. I actually believe.

• 1:08:37Speaker 01

  But that's a big Dom guarantee.

• 1:08:38Speaker 00

  100% believe him.

• 1:08:41Speaker 02

  Must win this weekend.

• 1:08:42Speaker 00

  Who are you playing?

• 1:08:44Speaker 02

  Panthers.

• 1:08:45Speaker 00

  Bryce Shoney is good. Bryce Shoney is good.

• 1:08:49Speaker 02

  Eagles, Eagles defense has made a lot of good, good quarterbacks. So pretty pedestrian the past couple of weeks.

• 1:08:55Speaker 00

  Not Case Keenum.

• 1:08:57Speaker 02

  Not Case Keenum. Case Keenum is excellent quarterback.

• 1:09:01Speaker 02

  If we had Tyson Bejat, who knows what happens?

• 1:09:03Speaker 00

  Yeah, it's true. Yeah.

• 1:09:04Speaker 02

  This whole season could be different.

• 1:09:05Speaker 00

  That Vikings concussion of Tyson Bejat was really totally different game.

• 1:09:10Speaker 02

  The whole season could be different.

• 1:09:11Speaker 00

  Totally different.

• 1:09:12Speaker 01

  I'm glad, I'm glad Big Dom has taken some accountability though. That's the kind of guy he is.

• 1:09:16Speaker 02

  And the fucking concussion guy.

• 1:09:18Speaker 01

  The fucking concussion guy. Who's that?

• 1:09:20Speaker 02

  We already talked about the concussion guys.

• 1:09:22Speaker 00

  Yeah. Right. Oh, he's talking back. He's talking back about the.

• 1:09:26Speaker 02

  You said, you said, I don't get the concussion guys. Neither do I.

• 1:09:29Speaker 00

  Yeah, I said that.

• 1:09:30Speaker 02

  Or somebody said it. It was said on, it was said on the show.

• 1:09:33Speaker 00

  Someone said it. Big Dom is gonna save the Eagles.

• 1:09:35Speaker 02

  Yeah, the Eagles are gonna, Eagles are gonna win this weekend.

• 1:09:37Speaker 00

  They're gonna get fixed.

• 1:09:38Speaker 02

  Must win. They're gonna win.

• 1:09:40Speaker 00

  You could still win the division even if you lose.

• 1:09:44Speaker 02

  Yeah. Cause then we play the Cowboys.

• 1:09:45Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:09:46Speaker 01

  Yeah, you guys are still in it, Max.

• 1:09:50Speaker 00

  It is bullshit that like, I was looking at the standings today. It's like, the Bucks are still alive. Like they're one and four. You should, you shouldn't be one and four and be like, we could still win our division.

• 1:10:04Speaker 01

  You play where you play.

• 1:10:05Speaker 00

  The NFC North, every team is over 500. If there was a, if the Bears were one and four and the Vikings are five and oh, you can't, you can't catch that. The Bucks are like, yeah, we're one and four. We're like a game away.

• 1:10:17Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:10:17Speaker 00

  From, from being back in this.

• 1:10:20Speaker 00

  It's not right.

• 1:10:20Speaker 01

  Dead Zach.

• 1:10:21Speaker 00

  It's not right Zach.

• 1:10:21Speaker 01

  Dead. Hank, what'd you think about?

• 1:10:23Speaker 02

  Last season.

• 1:10:23Speaker 01

  Big Dom's promise.

• 1:10:26Speaker 01

  Like Babe Ruth in the hospital to the kid. Big Dom, we're gonna get this fixed.

• 1:10:31Speaker 00

  And be careful with what you say.

• 1:10:33Speaker 03

  Yeah, that's, it's, if you're an Eagles fan,

• 1:10:37Speaker 03

  you probably are down in the dumps, but then you hear that and it's like, all right, we're all the way back.

• 1:10:44Speaker 03

  Why is our head of security speaking at the, like making a public appearance? I don't know, but I like what he's saying and we're back. Yeah.

• 1:10:51Speaker 01

  Big Dem.

• 1:10:52Speaker 00

  He's a union guy.

• 1:10:54Speaker 01

  Lib Dom.

• 1:10:57Speaker 00

  So you, I think the Eagles are gonna be back. I might bet the Eagles had a respect for Big Dom this week.

• 1:11:02Speaker 03

  Same.

• 1:11:02Speaker 00

  I'm gonna do that. What's, what's, whose line is it anyway?

• 1:11:06Speaker 02

  It's Eagles minus one and a half. We're not even, we're not, we don't even have to play a game.

• 1:11:09Speaker 00

  Fine.

• 1:11:09Speaker 02

  Eagles minus one and a half.

• 1:11:10Speaker 00

  There we go.

• 1:11:12Speaker 02

  Eagles and guys are getting, apparently guys are supposed to be getting healthy. Saquon should be back. Devante Smith should be back.

• 1:11:18Speaker 00

  Big Dom guarantee.

• 1:11:19Speaker 01

  That's huge. Yeah.

• 1:11:20Speaker 00

  All right.

• 1:11:21Speaker 01

  He, I, I think for him to say something like that, he knows something that we don't know.

• 1:11:25Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm. Shit's getting, turning around.

• 1:11:27Speaker 01

  So I'm gonna trust him. What's, what are the odds right now for the Eagles to win that division?

• 1:11:31Speaker 00

  I think they're the favorite, right?

• 1:11:35Speaker 01

  Plus money.

• 1:11:35Speaker 00

  Yeah, we looked at it. There was, they were like plus 170 Cowboys. We're like plus 180 Giants who are in first. I would say we're like plus 310 and then you guys were like plus 700 or something.

• 1:11:48Speaker 01

  This.

• 1:11:48Speaker 00

  Yeah. I fucking nailed that.

• 1:11:50Speaker 01

  Yeah. In, in the years when the NFC East is like a joke of a division, that tends to be where you see the commanders graphic flash up on the list of division winners over the years. It's when everybody is below 500.

• 1:12:03Speaker 02

  NFC least.

• 1:12:04Speaker 01

  Yeah, but.

• 1:12:04Speaker 00

  NFC least.

• 1:12:05Speaker 01

  Max, you're not out of it yet.

• 1:12:07Speaker 02

  Nope.

• 1:12:09Speaker 00

  That's really nice of you, PFT.

• 1:12:11Speaker 01

  My guy's right in there.

• 1:12:13Speaker 00

  You could still do this.

• 1:12:14Speaker 01

  I know you're going through a tough time. There's a lot of questions about end of game clock management with your sad little team. Uh, but you're right in there, Max.

• 1:12:21Speaker 00

  You're in there. Stay in the fight.

• 1:12:23Speaker 01

  Yeah, hang in there.

• 1:12:24Speaker 00

  Okay, Zach.

• 1:12:26Speaker 05

  My hot seat this week is gonna be FIFA president Gianni Infantino. You guys see what's going on with him?

• 1:12:32Speaker 00

  No.

• 1:12:32Speaker 01

  Is it something good?

• 1:12:33Speaker 05

  Uh, not anything good. No. They're saying, so you know, we, a country did recently host a World Cup. That was us. They're saying that the organization that put together that World Cup, who was entrusted to do so, may have slid Gianni roughly a 1.7 million dollar envelope. And FIFA is just denying it.

• 1:12:50Speaker 00

  No.

• 1:12:50Speaker 05

  They're saying that didn't happen. They're saying his $6 million salary is just enough. And that the 1.7 didn't come through and it definitely wasn't from the host country.

• 1:12:58Speaker 00

  No, I, I.

• 1:12:59Speaker 01

  No.

• 1:13:00Speaker 00

  Why would the head of FIFA lie about that? A bribe? Soccer? You kidding me?

• 1:13:05Speaker 01

  Come on.

• 1:13:06Speaker 05

  He just playing in the face. 1.7.

• 1:13:08Speaker 01

  I saw, somebody made a post, I think it was during the, the World Cup when, uh, it was right after Balligan got brought back and they overturned the suspension. And it was some British guy just being like, I miss Sepp Blatter, a, a proper brown envelopes man. It's true. Like Sepp Blatter, he did corruption, but he did it classily.

• 1:13:26Speaker 05

  Something to be said for that.

• 1:13:27Speaker 01

  We long for the days of, yeah. Like he would meet you probably in the finest hotels. The, the, uh, like lobby bar of the four season, seasons. He'd have a, a, a corner table set aside just for you and him. And then you would put the envelope discreetly on the ground. He would pick, he would have the guy that he was with pick it up. So he didn't touch it. That's how business should be done with FIFA. I don't like the accusations of like behind the scenes, maybe crypto bribes, all that. That to me seems beneath the sport of soccer. Let's bring back Sepp.

• 1:13:57Speaker 05

  No tree companies in soccer. They just do it right in front of you.

• 1:13:59Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:13:59Speaker 05

  And they deny it. Also quick update, I guess, since we're talking soccer, Tottenham 19th on the table, gentlemen.

• 1:14:06Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:14:06Speaker 00

  What 19th?

• 1:14:07Speaker 05

  19th, I believe. Yeah.

• 1:14:08Speaker 00

  Whoa.

• 1:14:09Speaker 05

  I think I just look for updates there sometimes, but.

• 1:14:11Speaker 01

  Up the Spurs?

• 1:14:12Speaker 05

  Yes, Spurs down.

• 1:14:14Speaker 01

  Who do you root for again?

• 1:14:15Speaker 05

  I'm a Chelsea guy. We're sixth.

• 1:14:17Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:14:17Speaker 00

  You guys done any nefarious things?

• 1:14:19Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:14:20Speaker 05

  Everybody gets nefarious, but.

• 1:14:21Speaker 00

  Yeah, you gotta get nefarious.

• 1:14:23Speaker 05

  A little bit.

• 1:14:24Speaker 01

  Are you jealous that like?

• 1:14:25Speaker 05

  That's a year away.

• 1:14:26Speaker 01

  That you got nefarious, but you didn't even try to get nearly as nefarious as Man City did?

• 1:14:31Speaker 05

  No, because that kind of nefariousness leads you to relegation.

• 1:14:34Speaker 01

  That whole that whole scandal after you read more and more about it, it gets funnier and funnier. They just made up companies to sponsor the team.

• 1:14:42Speaker 05

  It's also kind of impressive because it just kept going.

• 1:14:44Speaker 01

  Yeah. Like there, some of their main sponsors just didn't exist.

• 1:14:48Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:14:49Speaker 05

  So you just, whatever you put into a spreadsheet and print off enough times can become true for long enough?

• 1:14:55Speaker 01

  Yeah. And then now there's speculation that they won't get demoted. They won't get relegated because the country of England relies too much on energy, oil and gas from the country that owns Man City. So it's like, they don't want to upset the ruling parties. So they can't give them too much of a punishment when it comes to like points punishments.

• 1:15:18Speaker 05

  It's like starts playing with the resources of the country.

• 1:15:20Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:15:21Speaker 05

  Like it will put the squeeze on these quick if you.

• 1:15:22Speaker 01

  Right. Like it'll in fact, it'll affect all of England if you relegate Man City.

• 1:15:27Speaker 00

  Yeah, you can't. They're too big to fail.

• 1:15:29Speaker 01

  They're too big to fail. Yeah.

• 1:15:30Speaker 00

  Too big to fail.

• 1:15:30Speaker 01

  It's, it's maybe the funniest part, funniest scandal, but also like maybe the, maybe the biggest scandal in the history of sports.

• 1:15:37Speaker 00

  Uh, Zach, you got a cool throw?

• 1:15:39Speaker 05

  I do. My cool thing this week's gonna be Penny Hardway. Penny Hardway stepped in. Uh, you guys know a new era of sports. A lot of guys getting paid before they make it to the league. Memphis said, Penny, if you want more money, you're gonna have to pay up. And he decided, okay, fine. I'll push 2.6 million of my own money into the nine million total pot to.

• 1:15:58Speaker 00

  I love this.

• 1:15:59Speaker 05

  Keep some guys. He said, look, I had a great career.

• 1:16:02Speaker 00

  Ah.

• 1:16:02Speaker 05

  I want to coach this team.

• 1:16:03Speaker 00

  I'll say this. I'm shocked more guys don't do this because you're basically investing in yourself. If Penny Har, if you, if you have money, if you're an ex-player and you're, you're a coach, if you have, let's say a hundred million dollars,

• 1:16:17Speaker 00

  putting two to three million dollars in your roster. If your team does well, you could probably make millions more on your contract, right? Like, it's actually a genius move.

• 1:16:29Speaker 05

  He didn't want back to back bad years. So he's like, I'll just bet it myself.

• 1:16:33Speaker 00

  I like it. Mm hmm. I like it. More guys should do it. That's yourself.

• 1:16:36Speaker 05

  Also, I feel like that's a great way to win over the locker room. Like, hey, I really believe in you guys.

• 1:16:41Speaker 00

  Right.

• 1:16:41Speaker 05

  I'm pushing all in.

• 1:16:42Speaker 01

  This also seems like maybe a move that is like you're in a desperate spot if you're doing this.

• 1:16:48Speaker 05

  I don't know. In the interviews, he sounds pretty confident about it. Like, hey, I didn't want to lose again. Let's just push.

• 1:16:53Speaker 01

  I hope it works out for him. I could see it. I could see it going the other way. Like he, it doesn't work out and then he's just out of a couple of million dollars.

• 1:17:02Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:17:03Speaker 05

  Oh, you get fired and you're out three M's?

• 1:17:05Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:17:05Speaker 00

  Mm hmm. That would not be good.

• 1:17:07Speaker 05

  High risk, high reward though.

• 1:17:08Speaker 01

  Yeah, true.

• 1:17:08Speaker 05

  I like it. I like the move. More guys should do it.

• 1:17:11Speaker 00

  Okay, let's get to some college football talk with Brandon Walker. Great college football talk with Brandon Walker. And then we have Bill Burr in studio. Uh, Social Reckoning out now. So go see it. I'm actually gonna see it tomorrow night. So Bill Burr, Brandon Walker, then Bill Burr.

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• 1:19:46Speaker 00

  Okay, we now welcome on a very, very special guest. It is Brandon Walker from the Brandon Walker College Football Show.

• 1:19:55Speaker 05

  That's right.

• 1:19:55Speaker 00

  Uh, featuring Liam Blutman.

• 1:19:58Speaker 05

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• 1:19:58Speaker 00

  Starring Liam Blutman. We're gonna talk a little ball. Brandon is here. He's nervous. He thinks that we have some type of uh, something's gonna come like a, uh, something's gonna pop out of your seat like in Jackass.

• 1:20:11Speaker 01

  He said a big Italian surprise is what he's worried about.

• 1:20:13Speaker 06

  He's never not had a surprise.

• 1:20:14Speaker 00

  Yeah, there's, there's gonna be an airbag that pops you, just shoots you through the ceiling. There's gonna be a big hand that comes out right behind, right behind you. Uh, no, there's no surprise. Just want to talk ball with Brandon. Uh, where would you like to start, Brandon? Should we just at least admit that you were dead wrong about Oregon?

• 1:20:30Speaker 06

  Oh, yeah. Yeah, we can, we can start there. Uh, I will take that I was dead wrong about Oregon. It's two years in a row. My national championship pick has bombed. I will say, raise your hand if you thought Oregon was gonna not be good this year because they looked on paper like they were gonna be incredible.

• 1:20:44Speaker 00

  I'll also say this, uh, in your defense, the Oklahoma State game, uh, was very clearly Oklahoma State had to tell.

• 1:20:53Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:20:54Speaker 00

  They were, they knew exactly what was coming. Uh, that's a bad coaching job by Oregon. And then Dylan Riola is just not a good quarterback.

• 1:21:02Speaker 06

  He's terrible.

• 1:21:02Speaker 00

  I think if Dante Moore plays that game, they probably win that game with the way that UCLA was playing on offense. But guess, those excuses don't matter. Oregon season, I mean, they could conceivably win it, win the rest of their games and still go.

• 1:21:14Speaker 06

  Conceivably, but they gotta go to Ohio State. Like they, there's just no, it's, it's not happening. And Dylan Riola is the kind of bad, there is one thing to not be good.

• 1:21:23Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:21:23Speaker 06

  It's another thing to be outright bad. Outright bad hurts your team. And against UCLA, he was outright bad. And it's shocking because when he came against USC, he looked competent. He looked capable and he looked like he was gonna settle things down. He did the opposite.

• 1:21:35Speaker 01

  Yeah. And so then they have Nebraska next, right?

• 1:21:38Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:21:39Speaker 01

  For Oregon.

• 1:21:39Speaker 00

  But he's in a QB competition.

• 1:21:41Speaker 01

  Yeah. And so this feels like if there was gonna be any game that he'd be looking forward to.

• 1:21:45Speaker 06

  It'd be this one.

• 1:21:45Speaker 01

  It'd be this one. But on that same note, I feel like because he's probably had this game circled for so long, it would be the kind of game that he would absolutely shit the bed in.

• 1:21:53Speaker 00

  Well, no, he might not play.

• 1:21:54Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

• 1:21:55Speaker 06

  Yeah, I don't know how you would trust him.

• 1:21:56Speaker 01

  It's gonna be competition. And if, if there's one game that would actually go against starting him in a competition, it would be this one.

• 1:22:03Speaker 06

  It would be this one. I don't know how you trust him because he was so bad against UCLA. And now if you go into practice and he looks good, you got to weigh the fact that, oh, he's playing his old team. He's gonna freak out again.

• 1:22:11Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:22:12Speaker 06

  I, I don't see any, I don't, and plus the fut, the plan was to have him for the future. The plan was to sit him this year. He does the Dante Moore thing where he doesn't play. He learns the system and he comes in next year and he's your starter. I don't, I think that's probably out the window.

• 1:22:24Speaker 01

  Yeah. So as much shit as we'll give you for Oregon, bad pick.

• 1:22:27Speaker 06

  Sure.

• 1:22:28Speaker 01

  Your second pick, you got Georgia in the second round. Now, I forget if that was just like you got Oregon and Georgia back to back? Or if it went back and forth?

• 1:22:36Speaker 06

  I don't, I believe I was the first overall pick and pick Oregon, and then I got Georgia on the comeback.

• 1:22:41Speaker 01

  You got Georgia on the comeback.

• 1:22:42Speaker 00

  Bad ball knowledge by Tom.

• 1:22:43Speaker 01

  Good pick on your part.

• 1:22:44Speaker 00

  Love to Georgia.

• 1:22:45Speaker 06

  I think they're fantastic. The defense, they haven't even really taken this defense out for a stroll yet. They, they had the one game the other night in the rain against Alabama, but this defense is gonna choke everybody out, man. Chris Cole's incredible in the middle. The back end's incredible. They had some injuries and they still pretty much shut down Keelan Russell.

• 1:23:01Speaker 01

  And did you think that anybody gets in trouble over leaking the, the locker room scream fest that Kirby Smart has? Or do you think Kirby Smart loves it?

• 1:23:08Speaker 06

  Leaking it, huh?

• 1:23:09Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:23:09Speaker 06

  Yeah, that's what we're doing.

• 1:23:10Speaker 01

  That's what I'm wondering.

• 1:23:11Speaker 06

  Yeah, no, that's a, that's the, the pregame speech starring Kirby Smart every time they leak it.

• 1:23:16Speaker 00

  Yeah. And Gunnar Stockton is just good.

• 1:23:18Speaker 06

  He's good.

• 1:23:18Speaker 00

  He did, like, I know that he's not the flashiest name and there's, you know, when, when they did do the, oh my God, look how loaded this draft class is, which is starting to look a little iffy.

• 1:23:28Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:23:28Speaker 00

  Uh, Gunnar Stockton's just really good. He, he, he, he's got like a dog mentality. He can hit open guy. He throws like he was throwing a couple of seeds down the, down the seam. They, they have a couple of fast guys. That tight end is, is, might be special. Like I, I've liked Georgia since the beginning of the season. I think that they going into Alabama, that's the best win of the season so far.

• 1:23:50Speaker 06

  Not to, uh, not, not to, you know, give anybody credit here, but the star of the Brandon Walker College Football Show, Liam Blutman, last year in the season said, whoever wins 2025 doesn't matter. Georgia's winning 2026 national title. And then to start the season, he said, out of 135 teams, 132 of them, they would be by double digits. And I, I think he's right. I think that's how good they are.

• 1:24:10Speaker 01

  Yeah. Is he, is he an employee of the Brandon Walker Football Show or is he an employee of UCLA University?

• 1:24:16Speaker 06

  He's an employee of Brandon Walker LLC.

• 1:24:18Speaker 01

  Okay. Yeah. Cause he's been spending a lot of time with the Bruins.

• 1:24:20Speaker 06

  Yeah. And it's starting to, it's starting to get on my nerves a little bit.

• 1:24:23Speaker 01

  He's on the sidelines, taking pictures.

• 1:24:24Speaker 06

  He might be going out this weekend. I think UCLA told him he can do his post-game, uh, thing on Brandon Walker Show from the Rose Bowl Field. They'll set him up. They'll put him in a little studio out there.

• 1:24:33Speaker 00

  I like that you just referred yourself in third person there.

• 1:24:36Speaker 06

  Brandon Walker.

• 1:24:37Speaker 00

  Yeah, Liam Blutman could do his little thing on the Brandon Walker Show.

• 1:24:41Speaker 06

  That's not, hmm, uh, that's not technically third person. That's me. We're, I'm referring to an entity there.

• 1:24:46Speaker 00

  Yeah, but you should have just said my show.

• 1:24:49Speaker 06

  But how would you know?

• 1:24:50Speaker 00

  Yeah, sure. You have so many.

• 1:24:52Speaker 06

  How would you know?

• 1:24:53Speaker 01

  Yeah, you need to say, you need to do something to separate yourself from the Brandon Walker Football Show.

• 1:24:56Speaker 06

  Correct.

• 1:24:57Speaker 01

  Like establish your own idea. You know what should happen is, is Blutman should be forced to bring on Mikey Volcano.

• 1:25:03Speaker 06

  What, in what, in what sense and what way?

• 1:25:05Speaker 01

  Like as a guest, as a guest, uh, as a guest for the show, if he's gonna be spending that much time with UCLA.

• 1:25:10Speaker 06

  Okay.

• 1:25:11Speaker 01

  Let's get Mikey Volcano on the show.

• 1:25:12Speaker 06

  All right, fair enough.

• 1:25:13Speaker 01

  Was Mac shaking his head?

• 1:25:16Speaker 00

  What?

• 1:25:18Speaker 01

  Keanu's gotta come on this show.

• 1:25:19Speaker 00

  Yeah, he's gotta come on this show. Yeah, I would agree with that.

• 1:25:22Speaker 06

  Hey, big guy. Shut the fuck up. Oh, I thought we were calling him big guy.

• 1:25:25Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:25:26Speaker 06

  It's kind of weird when you get it. Cause I'm bigger than him.

• 1:25:29Speaker 00

  And also memes.

• 1:25:30Speaker 01

  Memes is just a dickhead.

• 1:25:31Speaker 00

  Mean guy to people.

• 1:25:32Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:25:32Speaker 00

  Uh, yeah, we need to get him on this show first.

• 1:25:34Speaker 06

  Why is, why is memes allowed to be so mean?

• 1:25:36Speaker 00

  He's really, really scary and we're all worried that someday he'll just come up and shoot this whole place up.

• 1:25:42Speaker 01

  I'm not, I'm not even that mean.

• 1:25:43Speaker 06

  Yeah, but I worry.

• 1:25:44Speaker 00

  Yeah, but you have it edged to you where we're like, hey, he could just kill us all one day.

• 1:25:47Speaker 06

  You don't worry about, you don't worry that about like Zach or something?

• 1:25:50Speaker 00

  No, Zach definitely not.

• 1:25:52Speaker 06

  I don't know. I feel like Zach's got a, there's an evil streak in there that y'all haven't seen yet.

• 1:25:56Speaker 01

  These guys are very judgmental.

• 1:25:57Speaker 00

  No. How are we judgmental? You've been calling him little guy and him big guy.

• 1:26:01Speaker 06

  That's the only reason I said it, Max.

• 1:26:03Speaker 01

  Well, no, yeah, Brandon would never be mean to a producer. I'm not offended.

• 1:26:08Speaker 01

  Just saying.

• 1:26:09Speaker 00

  All right. I can, can it quickly?

• 1:26:11Speaker 06

  Yes.

• 1:26:12Speaker 00

  And I don't want to make too much of a big deal of it because gotta play a game.

• 1:26:15Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:26:16Speaker 00

  Uh, everyone's just penciling US, UCLA into the playoff.

• 1:26:20Speaker 06

  Yeah, no, no, no.

• 1:26:21Speaker 00

  They got a pretty big game this weekend.

• 1:26:22Speaker 06

  They got a pretty big.

• 1:26:23Speaker 00

  I feel like a lot of people are overlooking that one.

• 1:26:26Speaker 06

  Also, the thing about the Oregon game.

• 1:26:28Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:26:28Speaker 06

  UCLA didn't play well either.

• 1:26:29Speaker 00

  No, it was the worst top 25 big game that I've watched maybe ever.

• 1:26:34Speaker 06

  And they're on their backup quarterback now, probably for the rest of the season. So like they're not, they're not home free by any stretch of the imagination. I was looking at it last night, like the, the, if you consider Ohio State and Indiana into the playoff, basically. Who's the third team? Is it Iowa? Iowa looks pretty good for that spot. Wisconsin's in the mix for that spot. Northwestern's in the mix for that spot.

• 1:26:53Speaker 00

  Northwestern's been awesome.

• 1:26:54Speaker 06

  Nebraska's in the mix for that spot. There's a, there's a lot of teams are sitting there. It's going to be a bloodbath coming down the back half of the season in the Big Ten.

• 1:27:00Speaker 01

  I, I do think that minus Nico is actually maybe a plus because Nico hasn't been good this year. They've been a good team. They've been running.

• 1:27:07Speaker 06

  And they haven't been winning on the strength of Nico at all.

• 1:27:09Speaker 01

  Right. It's like replacement quarterback maybe equal to, to Nico.

• 1:27:13Speaker 06

  But then you've, you're really, you're already on your backup quarterback. You play a physical style where you run the quarterback a lot. You're, you're just, it's, it's just a dangerous spot.

• 1:27:20Speaker 01

  Yeah. I have a feeling that Chesney is not going to take the, uh, the long-term Signetti approach. If there's one young college football coach that I could see trying to become an NFL guy, it might be Chesney.

• 1:27:31Speaker 06

  By the way, he's, he's not young. Did you, have you seen?

• 1:27:36Speaker 06

  I, I interviewed him yesterday. Have you guys interviewed him?

• 1:27:38Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:27:39Speaker 06

  Handsome devil. Just a handsome devil. And I saw the screenshot of me and him side by side yesterday and I, I was looking at me and I was looking at him and back to me and back to him.

• 1:27:48Speaker 00

  That's jarring.

• 1:27:49Speaker 06

  He's two years older than I am.

• 1:27:51Speaker 01

  Is he really?

• 1:27:51Speaker 06

  Yeah. And it was troubling because he looks so good.

• 1:27:54Speaker 01

  Was he, he's 35?

• 1:27:56Speaker 06

  He's 49.

• 1:27:57Speaker 00

  By the way, UCLA has been incredible story. Everyone talks about, uh, these coaches going to different schools and bringing their team. He didn't bring that much to JMU. I think the new thing is if you're a head coach, if you're looking for a new job, just look at the schedule.

• 1:28:14Speaker 06

  Agreed.

• 1:28:15Speaker 00

  It's crazy. The runway you can get if you get a good schedule in one of these big conferences. And again, I think UCLA is very good. I'm not saying that it's all schedule, but what happened with Indiana the first year? They got a nice.

• 1:28:26Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:28:27Speaker 00

  Runway of like, hey, this thing is going to work. What happened with UCLA this year? They've got a nice runway of this thing's going to work. You show up and your schedule's bad. I mean, Ryan Silverfield, that guy got hot. I had to double check.

• 1:28:38Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:28:38Speaker 00

  Cause I was like, didn't he just get hired? He wa, he's, he's already being ran out of Arkansas.

• 1:28:44Speaker 06

  I know. I know. Uh, and, and if you look at A and M, Elko in a second year, Elko, Elko walked in there with the easiest schedule in the SEC.

• 1:28:51Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:28:51Speaker 06

  Got to the playoff and now the whole thing's falling apart.

• 1:28:53Speaker 01

  Right. How bad is it for Elko if he's openly referencing message boards during his press conference?

• 1:28:58Speaker 06

  It is ridiculously bad. It's such an unforced error. Plus.

• 1:29:01Speaker 01

  To be fair, that's, that's a, that's a powerful message board.

• 1:29:04Speaker 06

  It is a, so, so not only is he going after.

• 1:29:06Speaker 00

  Explain it for people who, who are not tuned in.

• 1:29:08Speaker 06

  So, so after, after Saturday's, after Saturday's game, when they lost 27-6 at Missouri, they asked him, you know, what's going on? And he said, um, I, I, I'll listen to the rest of the fan base. I, I want the fan base to get behind us, but I'm not talking about Billy Sesspool over there. Billy Sesspool is Billy Lucci, who runs Tech Sags. The number one fan site in America. Like he has built something over there. Tech Sags is huge. They have a gigantic base of, uh, of, of, of givers, of donors, of, of everything that's in there. Tech Sags, he basically took a torch to his entire fan base and said, either get behind us or fuck you. And you can't do that when you're struggling and you can't find a quarterback and you're, and, and you're getting whipped.

• 1:29:45Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm. Uh, who's typing right now?

• 1:29:50Speaker 01

  I couldn't. Tech Sacks?

• 1:29:51Speaker 00

  CC. Tech Sacks.

• 1:29:53Speaker 06

  Aggies.

• 1:29:54Speaker 00

  No, Aggies. Tech A and M.

• 1:29:55Speaker 01

  Oh, Tech Sack.

• 1:29:56Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:29:57Speaker 00

  Tech Sacks. Yeah, it's crazy. And then, yeah, I mean, so I, I actually think that's the thing is like, when you're trying to find a new job.

• 1:30:05Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:30:06Speaker 00

  Look at that schedule for the first two years. Well, you can then get the momentum and then get the, and again, it's not saying that Signetti's won a national title because his schedule is easy the first year, but I think the, I think the world we're in with college football is, it's as much transfer portal NIL as it is just lopsided schedule year to year.

• 1:30:26Speaker 06

  I really think schedule is one thing, uh, us when we're predicting the season, we don't look at it enough. Now, I tried it this year with Penn State, but then Penn State just has kind of fallen on their face. Um, but yeah, schedule is so important in these huge gigantic conferences. It creates these avenues for teams to kind of slide into these bad schedules. And you might not know at the beginning of the year, because if you look last year, A and M's schedule didn't look that easy, but South Carolina fell apart, LSU fell apart and all these things. And now, if you look at teams in the Big Ten, like with Oregon falling apart, that is, that is easing up some schedule concerns for a lot of teams.

• 1:30:57Speaker 00

  Yeah. And Penn State, yeah, like, yeah, it's been bad. So, yeah, it's, it definitely, it has, it has a big, big factor.

• 1:31:03Speaker 06

  That being said, if you had UCLA on the schedule to begin the year, you had that as a win.

• 1:31:07Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:31:07Speaker 06

  You, you, you gotta worry.

• 1:31:08Speaker 01

  Also their, their MVP this year is Wayne Knight, who's one of the best running backs in the, uh.

• 1:31:13Speaker 06

  Yeah, he's incredible.

• 1:31:13Speaker 01

  All of NCAA, who is a JMU guy, but he's at, I forget how many yards per carry, but it feels like every time I'm watching him in a game, he's averaging like 10 yards per carry.

• 1:31:21Speaker 06

  He had that one game where it was 10 for a hundred and I went back and looked and he's, he's been close to that every single, now at Oregon, he had to run a little bit more to, to get, to get the yards. I think he ended up with 103, but he's been fantastic. And this is a guy, not just a JMU guy, but a four-year JMU guy.

• 1:31:35Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:31:35Speaker 06

  Like he was there for a while. He didn't pop off at JMU till his last year.

• 1:31:39Speaker 00

  Yeah. Yeah. Uh, can we talk about, and I'm sure you're going to love talking about this.

• 1:31:43Speaker 06

  I love it. Yes.

• 1:31:44Speaker 00

  Uh, Lane Kiffin with an all-time blunder against Kentucky.

• 1:31:49Speaker 06

  I don't know what happened to Lane, guys. You guys have talked to him a thousand times.

• 1:31:52Speaker 00

  It's crazy. So just to set the stage for people who didn't watch the game, Kentucky at LSU, at Kentucky, LSU's minus eight and a half, uh, LSU, it's, they're up three. The Kentucky kickers missed two kicks.

• 1:32:05Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:32:05Speaker 00

  LSU has the ball. I think it was like the four, their own 45, yeah, 43, fourth and one with a minute and a half left. Kentucky has no timeouts. Lane Kiffin punts.

• 1:32:15Speaker 06

  If he gets it, the game is over. If he punts, Kentucky has a puncher's chance to come down the field, get a field goal. That's exactly what they do. They force overtime. Uh, LSU scores first. Kentucky scores, goes for two, wins the game. Uh, Lane Ki, I don't know why Lane Kiffin is being careful this year. I have no idea what happened to him. He is a guy that has flown by the seat of his pants the entire, his entire career at Ole Miss, at least that I've been seeing. He's going to go for it. If it's fourth and two, if it's fourth and three, if it's anything reasonable, like passes on 30, he's going for it and he's getting it. And he had his foot on their neck.

• 1:32:44Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 1:32:44Speaker 06

  Took his foot off.

• 1:32:45Speaker 00

  The whole point of having Lane Kiffin as your head coach is you win the games that way.

• 1:32:49Speaker 06

  Yes. When the hell has Lane Kiffin been a take his foot off the throat guy? I, I, the only thing I can think of, he doesn't trust the offensive line and he doesn't trust the quarterback, but he, he's always trusted himself. I don't know why the fuck he did that.

• 1:33:01Speaker 01

  Is there a difference between him coaching as a, like an underdog with no expectation and are limited expectations, I'll say, or, and him coaching at LSU being like, the expectation is national championship. So it's like, maybe he, he lacks that confidence to say, fuck it. I'm going to go for it.

• 1:33:16Speaker 06

  Well, at Ole Miss, I mean, he was basically, he was kind of coaching with house money because he built all that, right? He built every single bit of it. At LSU, he has been given $40 million off the rip and he has been, uh, entrusted with a team that's supposed to win a national title, but he doesn't have a national title quarterback and he knows that. And I think it is affecting the way he coaches.

• 1:33:32Speaker 00

  Yeah. It was, it was shocking though, because I was just like, this is why you have Le.

• 1:33:36Speaker 06

  Well, not only that.

• 1:33:37Speaker 00

  And he should have probably gone for two.

• 1:33:39Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:33:39Speaker 00

  Start overtime, knowing Will Stein's going to do it. Will Stein's been incredible. Will Stein, like that's, that's been one of the best stories. Uh, he's an awesome coach. Kentucky's kind of rolling right now. That's another schedule one where it's like, you looked at it like Tech A and M.

• 1:33:53Speaker 06

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:33:53Speaker 00

  That was.

• 1:33:54Speaker 06

  Sure.

• 1:33:54Speaker 00

  That was a lot easier game than you thought. Uh, but go for two, knowing Will Stein's going to go for two. He did it last week.

• 1:34:01Speaker 06

  And not only that, Dan, uh, the, the two-point conversion itself, I mean, it was the most obvious quarterback draw you've ever seen. And Blake Baker, the defensive coordinator, LSU, uh, he just lets them spread him out like, like they, they send out everybody and they spread all the way out. Now you've got four guys in the box for five blockers. That's not going to work. And, and it was, it was a kind of a coaching disaster there at the end for LSU.

• 1:34:22Speaker 01

  Yeah. Um, can we talk about Texas?

• 1:34:24Speaker 06

  We can talk about whoever you guys want.

• 1:34:25Speaker 01

  Let's talk Texas for a second.

• 1:34:26Speaker 06

  Yep.

• 1:34:27Speaker 01

  Um, disappointing game. I always think Red River, the shootout, the rivalry, whatever you're calling it.

• 1:34:33Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:34:33Speaker 01

  Um, it's a big time Steelers Ravens throughout the record books.

• 1:34:37Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:34:37Speaker 01

  Cause you'll see some ups. Now the downside is.

• 1:34:39Speaker 06

  Ravens is your go-to throw out the record books rivalry.

• 1:34:42Speaker 01

  That's the classic throughout the record books. I mean, there are other, I would say bigger rivalries in sports.

• 1:34:46Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:34:47Speaker 01

  But it's, that's the one where it's like no love lost.

• 1:34:49Speaker 06

  I just think it's crazy. You have to go to the NFL to find one. You could just say Ohio State, Michigan. You can say any, there's, there's a lot of rivalries.

• 1:34:54Speaker 01

  I think it's more bad blood.

• 1:34:56Speaker 06

  Sure.

• 1:34:56Speaker 01

  That's like more bad blood and it's real.

• 1:34:57Speaker 06

  Ah, okay.

• 1:34:58Speaker 01

  Like it infects every part of your life.

• 1:35:00Speaker 06

  Okay.

• 1:35:00Speaker 01

  Um, but with, with the Red River shootout, it's always, this might be a, a win that Oklahoma looks back at in a year or two and they're like, damn, I wish we'd lost that game. Because if you win this game as a head coach, it tends to forgive a lot of the shit that you did. Charlie Strong extended his career famously at Texas.

• 1:35:16Speaker 06

  Sure.

• 1:35:17Speaker 01

  By winning some of these games that he shouldn't have won. Uh, but with, with this game in particular, how, how much does this scare you for Texas's future?

• 1:35:25Speaker 06

  Scares the shit out of me if I'm a Texas fan because all I know is if we show up and there's a good defense on the other side, a very good defense, I don't have the quarterback and I don't have the coach that's going to overcome it. And I thought I did. Uh, the only way Oklahoma was going to win this game, Oklahoma has a bad quarterback, a bad offense. They, they just can't do anything. They, uh, John Matier lost them the game at Michigan. He got them blown out against Georgia and then he showed up and he didn't exactly lead them to victory here, but they needed a, a special teams touchdown. They needed a pick six and Arch gave them the pick six and then Arch gave them a, the, the interception with 19 seconds left to lose the game is as inexcusable a throw as you'll ever have in college football. And for whatever reason, he's in his fourth year. He's a fourth year junior. Sark hasn't developed him and he has no instincts. And I don't know how a Manning doesn't have quarterback instincts.

• 1:36:10Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:36:10Speaker 06

  Cause he will, he'll, he'll drop back. He'll get fullback coverage all the time. He'll throw it. He'll just flail it out there to a DB. Like it's just, there are moments when he's great, and then there are moments where you're like, this guy is not a quarterback.

• 1:36:22Speaker 00

  And I'm, uh, listen, I'm not really against him, but I'm out of, we can't do excuses anymore.

• 1:36:28Speaker 06

  No.

• 1:36:28Speaker 00

  It's three or three. You have an offensive wizard coach. You went and got Cam Coleman. There's nothing.

• 1:36:34Speaker 06

  You have five-star receivers at every single spot. Like you have the most talent in the country.

• 1:36:39Speaker 00

  It has to look better.

• 1:36:40Speaker 06

  I don't, I don't, I don't get it because it's not like he never shows anything.

• 1:36:44Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:36:45Speaker 06

  He shows something sometimes and he'll show the other day when he threw the pick six, the next drive, he was Joe Montana. It was bang, bang, bang, bang. And where does it go? I don't understand it, but Sark doesn't help him. Like Sark just stands over there and he doesn't, he, I don't think he, he plays to his strengths or plays against his weaknesses at all.

• 1:37:02Speaker 01

  Yeah. What if his last name was I am lava?

• 1:37:05Speaker 06

  Oh, that'd be confusing. He doesn't look like an.

• 1:37:08Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:37:09Speaker 06

  Yeah. Um, but.

• 1:37:10Speaker 01

  Would you ding him for that?

• 1:37:12Speaker 06

  I don't, I, I am a layoff is such a cool name. Now if his, if his name, if his last name was Oshaunacy.

• 1:37:19Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:37:19Speaker 06

  That's cool too.

• 1:37:20Speaker 01

  If his last name was Fitzpatrick, if he was Ryan Fitzpatrick.

• 1:37:23Speaker 06

  Art Fitzpatrick.

• 1:37:24Speaker 01

  I think we'd look at this and be like, he's going to have a career just like his old man. That's great.

• 1:37:27Speaker 06

  We'd be pretty comfortable with him just being like a high three star guy.

• 1:37:31Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:37:31Speaker 06

  If it's, if it's Fitzpatrick.

• 1:37:33Speaker 01

  I, I think there's a chance he goes back.

• 1:37:35Speaker 06

  I think there's a huge chance it goes back, but here's the thing.

• 1:37:37Speaker 01

  He might not get better.

• 1:37:38Speaker 06

  There's no guarantee.

• 1:37:39Speaker 01

  He just keeps, he hasn't gotten better.

• 1:37:42Speaker 06

  Uh, there's, everybody says he's going back, he's going back. That's fine. He can go back, but show me the proof. He or Texas will get better because of it.

• 1:37:49Speaker 01

  Yeah. I mean, he's in pretty much the perfect situation for a quarterback, right?

• 1:37:53Speaker 06

  I can't imagine a better one.

• 1:37:54Speaker 01

  He's got an outstanding defense that could be good enough to carry them for like despite his play, but he can't be throwing interceptions in the last 30 seconds of a game.

• 1:38:01Speaker 06

  If he doesn't make a mistake, if he doesn't make a catastrophic, two catastrophic mistakes, they win that game easily the other day.

• 1:38:06Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 1:38:07Speaker 00

  Uh, okay. What, what else are we gonna hit? Oh, the SEC is just, listen.

• 1:38:13Speaker 01

  Mid.

• 1:38:14Speaker 06

  I don't know if it's.

• 1:38:15Speaker 00

  You guys are just pumping each other up because every single Florida wins one big game and now is the, is the best team in the world.

• 1:38:22Speaker 06

  This guy didn't fall for that.

• 1:38:23Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:38:24Speaker 06

  This guy didn't fall for that. I, I said, pump the brakes on Florida as soon as they beat Ole Miss. And Ole Miss's resume is not great.

• 1:38:29Speaker 00

  Why is Tennessee ranked 14?

• 1:38:31Speaker 06

  Tennessee should not be ranked. Tennessee shouldn't be ranked at all.

• 1:38:35Speaker 06

  Tennessee doesn't have a quarterback.

• 1:38:36Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:38:36Speaker 06

  Figure out, they've tried to play both. They don't have quarterback. They went to Arkansas almost all second game. Like even Tennessee, a rational Tennessee fan, if they exist would sit here and say, yeah, we're not the number 14.

• 1:38:45Speaker 00

  Why is LSU 22?

• 1:38:46Speaker 06

  Yeah. It, it, listen, there's, there's a lot of, I, I will say there's some inherent SEC bias in the rankings. I got no problem with that, but

• 1:38:55Speaker 06

  also who do you replace them with? Do you, do you replace them with Purdue? Do you replace them with, like, I don't know the answer to that.

• 1:39:01Speaker 00

  Purdue's been good. Their offense.

• 1:39:02Speaker 06

  They're three and three though. Like, like they're, they're like one, they're one overtime loss away, forced away from four and two. Like there's good teams across this country. Some don't like, shouldn't Nebraska be ranked right now? Maybe they haven't beaten anybody either. So we're half.

• 1:39:14Speaker 00

  Wisconsin.

• 1:39:16Speaker 06

  We have, uh, we have half a story. I do think the SEC conveyor belt this of excellence this year has been a little bit wonky. When LSU beat Clemson, we all crowned them, right? We all said this, that, and then Ole Miss beat them. So Ole Miss goes up to that spot. Now they're number six in the country, number five in the country, or whatever it is. Florida beats them. They go up there. It's just, yeah, it's just been one week. And now everybody's in love with Missouri because they've beaten Florida and A and M back to back. And they're not that good.

• 1:39:40Speaker 01

  Who's Missouri have next week?

• 1:39:42Speaker 06

  Uh, Missouri plays this week. Um, who's it? Who's Missouri play this week? They, Ole Miss.

• 1:39:47Speaker 01

  So Ole Miss this week?

• 1:39:48Speaker 06

  Yeah, they got Ole Miss this week.

• 1:39:49Speaker 01

  So that's the team that's going to win this week.

• 1:39:50Speaker 06

  I think Ole Miss is going to beat Missouri. Yeah. I, I, pretty comfortably too.

• 1:39:54Speaker 01

  Uh, okay. All right. What about, um, what about Bama? You, you had a funeral for Alabama.

• 1:39:59Speaker 00

  Oh, man, they found our tweet, your, your.

• 1:40:01Speaker 01

  Week one.

• 1:40:02Speaker 00

  Your quote.

• 1:40:03Speaker 06

  What's, I don't, I don't.

• 1:40:04Speaker 01

  You had a funeral.

• 1:40:04Speaker 06

  Talking about.

• 1:40:05Speaker 00

  You said that, uh, I think Kalen DeBoer, what was the quote memes?

• 1:40:08Speaker 01

  I said, you should go back to Green Bay, Alabama.

• 1:40:10Speaker 06

  Listen, I, I kill teams twice, twice a year.

• 1:40:13Speaker 00

  Yeah. It was like, it was something like they, they sucked all the toughness out of this program.

• 1:40:17Speaker 01

  I think it was, but it was like a funeral for the entire.

• 1:40:19Speaker 06

  Yeah. Well, that was, that was, that was true. They laid down against Florida State. They laid down against Indiana, you know? This year they do look a little bit tougher. They look more physical. They stood up a little bit to Georgia. I thought Georgia, I thought Georgia dominated that game a little bit more in a three point victory, but still it was.

• 1:40:33Speaker 00

  Yeah. I mean, that was a bad, the passer first was a mess. That was a pass.

• 1:40:37Speaker 06

  That was, yeah, it was absolutely a pass.

• 1:40:38Speaker 00

  Like the Alabama guy and I, Kalen DeBoer yelling at his player. Like I kinda liked it.

• 1:40:44Speaker 06

  Of course.

• 1:40:45Speaker 00

  That's fine. Yeah. That's the toughness that you said they lack. He's kind of showing a little fire.

• 1:40:50Speaker 06

  I've got no issue. Now I didn't really love him saying you cost us the fucking game.

• 1:40:54Speaker 00

  Well, he did.

• 1:40:55Speaker 06

  Well, I mean, they, I think that game was pretty much lost at that point.

• 1:40:58Speaker 00

  Well, but.

• 1:40:59Speaker 06

  They had already gotten the first down because of the pass. They had already gotten the, and they had no timeouts. Like they were going to, if they got the ball back, it's going to be 10 seconds left.

• 1:41:06Speaker 01

  Is that a man that's feeling the pressure of a hot seat?

• 1:41:09Speaker 06

  No, no, Kalen DeBoer is not on the hot seat. I, I think Kalen, I think Alabama's in a great spot to finish 11 and one. Um, I think at Baton Rouge is probably their toughest test yet, and, and we'll see if Lane's able to put something together in the back half of the schedule, but I don't think he's on the hot seat. I, I don't think there's any concerns about Kalen DeBoer right now, but as soon as there are, I'll be there.

• 1:41:27Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:41:28Speaker 06

  Call him dead again.

• 1:41:28Speaker 00

  What about, we, we have talked about this, uh, you and I on, on our other shows that we've done, but the, the, the big 12 is a mess. We talked about it on college football show last week. I don't, I do not trust Texas tech.

• 1:41:41Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:41:42Speaker 00

  I do, like their offense does not look like.

• 1:41:44Speaker 06

  Do you trust BYU?

• 1:41:45Speaker 00

  I do not trust BYU. I kind of like Houston.

• 1:41:49Speaker 06

  I like.

• 1:41:50Speaker 00

  Kind of like Utah's running game. I kinda like Baylor.

• 1:41:53Speaker 06

  There's elements to like about everybody.

• 1:41:55Speaker 00

  I don't know what to do.

• 1:41:56Speaker 06

  Like there's elements to like about Oklahoma state, but they were also down like 14, nothing to UCF immediately.

• 1:42:00Speaker 00

  Uh, and also by the way, there might be two big 12 teams to get in the playoffs.

• 1:42:05Speaker 06

  Yeah. Uh, well.

• 1:42:06Speaker 00

  I'm just saying, I'm just seeing how it's all shaking out. If the, if the big 10 cannibalizes itself on that third spot.

• 1:42:13Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:42:13Speaker 00

  And the SEC cannibalizes, like the big 12 could have two teams.

• 1:42:17Speaker 06

  Yeah. I like Baylor a lot. Baylor's one goal line tackle and two point conversion from being undefeated and being like number 13 right now. And instead they're, I don't, I don't even know if they're, I don't think.

• 1:42:26Speaker 00

  No, they're not ranked.

• 1:42:27Speaker 06

  Yeah. I, but I, I think they're pretty good. They went out to the desert and just whipped Arizona state. Like I think they're okay. And DJ Lagway is playing average football, which if you bring in DJ Lagway and you say you're a quarterback, you're hoping for average football. You can win games like that. Yeah.

• 1:42:42Speaker 00

  Yeah. The, the, uh, it, it's just like everyone kind of, the problem with Baylor is that they have to play all three. Whereas like Texas tech and, and BYU don't like Baylor has to finish at BYU, Texas tech at Houston. I don't think they're going to go through that.

• 1:42:57Speaker 06

  It feels to me like we're gonna, all year, we're gonna kind of scratch our heads. We're gonna wonder, we're gonna gnash our teeth. And at the end, Texas tech is just going to be sitting there.

• 1:43:04Speaker 00

  Right. And I'm not going to be impressed by that.

• 1:43:05Speaker 06

  Yeah. And they're, I'm not saying they're good. I just say, I think they're going to be the survivor of this.

• 1:43:09Speaker 00

  Yeah. Yeah. Houston, Houston, I think is the other, yeah. I mean, they, they have a big game against Utah. That Houston, Utah game will be like a big, who's deciding it?

• 1:43:17Speaker 01

  Uh, what are we thinking about Indiana this year? I know a lot of people are saying it's, it's underwhelming. It doesn't look like it did last year. I will say that that game that they had this, this past week, that looked a lot like the Indiana Iowa game in 2025.

• 1:43:30Speaker 06

  Yeah, maybe, but the only thing is last year, when it looked like that, what they had was a recipe where their defensive line was going to bludgeon you to death. Their, their running game was going to bludgeon you to death and the quarterback would make the plays in the fourth quarter and you'd lose the game. Well, this year they can't really run it like that. They didn't run it like that against Nebraska. They, and their defensive line was giving up, where they were getting gashed in the first half. Like I just think at the line of scrimmage, they're not as strong as they were last year and they're not like, did they win close games last year? Yes. But it was because of, they never let opponents breathe. They let Nebraska breathe the entire game. And Nebraska kind of just choked on their own vomit at the end, but like, it just doesn't look the same as it, as it looked. They're not dominating at the line of scrimmage like they did.

• 1:44:11Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:44:12Speaker 06

  And but there's a different, they do have, now they have a guy who, where they play a, a B minus or a C plus game. They got a guy like Nick Marsh who can make two plays, win the game for you.

• 1:44:21Speaker 00

  Yep. He's special and, and Charlie Becker.

• 1:44:24Speaker 06

  And Charlie B. Yeah.

• 1:44:24Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:44:25Speaker 06

  Yeah. Like, like Saban and, and Kirby Smart have always had these teams where they've got such overwhelming individual talent that even if they come out against a Vanderbilt or an Arkansas and they're asleep in the third quarter, Julio Jones or somebody, some George pick and some freak makes a play and they just, they can't lose. And I feel like Indiana's kind of got that right now.

• 1:44:45Speaker 01

  Yeah. I got a question for you.

• 1:44:47Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:44:47Speaker 01

  I'm going to give you a, a blind resume.

• 1:44:49Speaker 06

  Uh oh.

• 1:44:49Speaker 01

  I'm going to do, uh, three teams that can win the national championship. And then I'm going to do another team that has three wins that can win the national championship.

• 1:44:57Speaker 06

  Oh, boy.

• 1:44:57Speaker 01

  And you tell me which, which roster is stronger.

• 1:45:00Speaker 06

  Okay.

• 1:45:00Speaker 01

  Team A has Oregon, Georgia and Texas. Team B.

• 1:45:06Speaker 00

  Wait, this, I'm picking a tranche?

• 1:45:08Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:45:08Speaker 06

  Okay.

• 1:45:08Speaker 01

  So the, the team.

• 1:45:09Speaker 06

  What's a tranche?

• 1:45:10Speaker 01

  Teams have.

• 1:45:11Speaker 00

  Tranche.

• 1:45:11Speaker 01

  Universities. So team A.

• 1:45:14Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:45:14Speaker 01

  Team A, their roster of universities includes Oregon, Georgia.

• 1:45:18Speaker 00

  That's tranche one.

• 1:45:19Speaker 06

  Okay. All right.

• 1:45:20Speaker 00

  Okay. Oregon, Georgia, Texas.

• 1:45:21Speaker 01

  And then tranche two.

• 1:45:22Speaker 06

  Is tranche a word?

• 1:45:23Speaker 01

  AKA team B. Yeah. Learn finance.

• 1:45:25Speaker 00

  Wow. Jesus Christ.

• 1:45:26Speaker 01

  He's never seen.

• 1:45:27Speaker 00

  Someone didn't go through the 2008 market.

• 1:45:29Speaker 01

  You didn't see the big short. That's okay.

• 1:45:31Speaker 00

  Man.

• 1:45:32Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:45:32Speaker 00

  Wait, you fucking head in the sand then?

• 1:45:34Speaker 01

  Brandon thinks that sub prime is the type of beef he gets at a, at a buffet.

• 1:45:38Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 1:45:39Speaker 01

  And then team B, tranche two, has Notre Dame, Ohio state and Miami. Are you taking tranche one or?

• 1:45:48Speaker 00

  It's funny. We haven't matched Notre Dame and Miami because they have not played a single opponent.

• 1:45:51Speaker 01

  So they played themselves. Yeah.

• 1:45:53Speaker 00

  Miami, Miami is not like, you could, you could tell me every week, just a fake Miami score. I'd be like, sure. Like you just like, oh yeah, Miami, Miami played Pitt this week. They won by 30. Okay. Cool. I didn't see it. Uh, I'm going to take.

• 1:46:09Speaker 00

  Tranch B.

• 1:46:09Speaker 06

  It's gotta be Tranch B.

• 1:46:10Speaker 00

  Yeah, I, I, I, Georgia's my national title pick.

• 1:46:13Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:46:14Speaker 00

  But you just have more depth than Tranch B. With Ohio State Notre Dame. I do not believe in Texas.

• 1:46:18Speaker 01

  Tranch B. Was.

• 1:46:19Speaker 00

  I called them pretenders in Oregon State.

• 1:46:21Speaker 01

  Tranch B. Was Tom Fornelli.

• 1:46:22Speaker 00

  Got it.

• 1:46:22Speaker 01

  Tranche A. Was.

• 1:46:23Speaker 00

  Oh, man.

• 1:46:26Speaker 01

  Did you honestly not know that, Brandon?

• 1:46:28Speaker 00

  Man.

• 1:46:29Speaker 06

  Well, he doesn't know what Tranch is.

• 1:46:30Speaker 01

  You just wa- you just waddled right in that one, big guy.

• 1:46:33Speaker 06

  I didn't waddle.

• 1:46:34Speaker 00

  Yeah, you did. You waddled.

• 1:46:35Speaker 06

  Well, I'm a big guy now.

• 1:46:36Speaker 01

  Brandon Waddle. That's what they're calling you.

• 1:46:38Speaker 00

  No, I.

• 1:46:39Speaker 01

  Brandon Waddle.

• 1:46:40Speaker 06

  Waddle, waddle, waddle, waddle. That playoff, that playoff race isn't won by the, by Tranche A. And B. It's won in the, in the Tranches. It's won.

• 1:46:47Speaker 00

  No, you don't know what Tranche.

• 1:46:48Speaker 06

  It's, it's one of the, it's one of the, it's one of the Tranches past, uh, the sixth spot. All right. It's won by your seventh, eighth, and ninth team that makes it. Okay? It's not won by your, by your marquee draft picks. Although Texas is still gonna make the playoff and, uh, Georgia's gonna win the national title. So.

• 1:47:03Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:47:03Speaker 06

  What do you want me to do?

• 1:47:04Speaker 01

  Uh, Brayden, usually can be a big picture, um, look at the realignment that JMU is going through, going to the American, which is announced yesterday, leaving the Sun Belt in a couple of years, going to the American Conference, which seems like it is now solidly the best non-power conference in America.

• 1:47:18Speaker 06

  I think it has been the best non-power and now adding JMU is gonna be even better. I, I said this to, to Blutman last night and he, he scoffed. There will be years where the American is almost as good as the Big 12, or at least maybe on par with the Big 12. Like, like, if you look at it right now, like, the Big 12's okay, but the American's gonna have these years where they're really, really, really, especially when, when Tulane gets right and Memphis is, is, is up and then JMU's up. Like, it's gonna be a very good league.

• 1:47:44Speaker 01

  Yeah. Big picture, what does that mean for?

• 1:47:45Speaker 06

  Uh, the big picture to me is not what JMU looks like in the American. It's what's the second move after that.

• 1:47:52Speaker 00

  ACC.

• 1:47:53Speaker 06

  Is it the ACC?

• 1:47:54Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:47:54Speaker 06

  Like, are we 10 years?

• 1:47:55Speaker 00

  Is the ACC still around?

• 1:47:56Speaker 06

  Are we 10 years away from JMU in the ACC?

• 1:47:58Speaker 01

  Yeah, I think yes, but I think there's also a good chance that the ACC in 10 years, it looks a lot like the American, or the Sun Belt does now.

• 1:48:04Speaker 06

  So the ACC comes down.

• 1:48:05Speaker 00

  Well, yeah, Miami and Florida State and them are gonna try to.

• 1:48:09Speaker 01

  They're gonna go to the SEC or the Big Ten or, yeah, so it's, we're gonna end up probably with two power conferences, even though that, that new bill is trying to, to limit that if it gets passed.

• 1:48:19Speaker 00

  Do you have any thoughts on the new bill? You wanna say, you wanna stump for the new bill?

• 1:48:22Speaker 06

  I don't, I don't, I don't get into that new bill shit.

• 1:48:24Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:48:24Speaker 06

  I, I don't.

• 1:48:25Speaker 00

  A bunch of new bills here.

• 1:48:26Speaker 06

  We can talk about, we can talk about the games and the quarterbacks and I can be wrong on a lot of shit, but I, I, I'm not getting into the Bills and shit. I'm not reading all that shit.

• 1:48:32Speaker 00

  We do the old Bills. UNC not bad.

• 1:48:35Speaker 06

  What, UNC annoyingly, uh, annoyingly competent.

• 1:48:39Speaker 00

  Old Bills.

• 1:48:39Speaker 06

  And they play, uh, they, they play Duke this week.

• 1:48:41Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:48:42Speaker 06

  Duke kinda took the air out of the sails by losing to Georgia Tech, but like.

• 1:48:45Speaker 01

  Usually Belichick does that.

• 1:48:46Speaker 06

  That's kind of, uh, that, that's kind of a sneaky little fascinating game.

• 1:48:49Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:48:49Speaker 06

  There's some, this week.

• 1:48:51Speaker 00

  Yeah, I know. It's a great weekend.

• 1:48:52Speaker 06

  There's some sneaky rivalry games that are just high, like Kansas, Kansas State, uh, that one we just mentioned, Auburn, Georgia. Like, there, there's just some games that are off.

• 1:48:59Speaker 00

  You guys for LSU?

• 1:49:00Speaker 06

  Yeah, there's some games off the radar. Well, yeah, we got some health concerns that I don't think are gonna come out our way.

• 1:49:06Speaker 00

  Camario.

• 1:49:07Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:49:08Speaker 01

  What, what's the issue with Camario?

• 1:49:09Speaker 00

  He needs to eat a mushroom.

• 1:49:10Speaker 06

  Turf toe.

• 1:49:11Speaker 01

  Oh, no.

• 1:49:12Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:49:13Speaker 00

  Super Camario.

• 1:49:14Speaker 01

  That's tough.

• 1:49:14Speaker 00

  He got hit by a blue shell.

• 1:49:15Speaker 06

  Some really tough, some really tough turf toe. Yeah.

• 1:49:18Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:49:18Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:49:19Speaker 06

  Yeah. He's little right now.

• 1:49:20Speaker 00

  Yeah, he's really tiny.

• 1:49:22Speaker 01

  He's awesome, though.

• 1:49:23Speaker 06

  He's incredible. And, and, and if we have sacrificed an LSU game to, to get him right and then start rolling again, that would be.

• 1:49:29Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:49:29Speaker 06

  You know, that's what we're gonna have to do.

• 1:49:30Speaker 00

  You'll sacrifice it. Uh, Zach finishes off. Roback question. R H O B A C K dot com promo code TAKE. 20% off your first purchase. Q Zips, Polo's, who's his jogger shorts? Roback dot com promo code TAKE.

• 1:49:40Speaker 05

  Uh, did I have a quick question, Brandon?

• 1:49:41Speaker 06

  Hey, Zach.

• 1:49:42Speaker 05

  What's up, Brandon Howard, man?

• 1:49:43Speaker 06

  Good. How are you?

• 1:49:44Speaker 05

  Not too bad. It's a great day today.

• 1:49:46Speaker 06

  Uh, you look good.

• 1:49:47Speaker 05

  You, I mean, I'm just trying to Q O B you, Brandon. You look great as ever.

• 1:49:49Speaker 06

  Thank you.

• 1:49:50Speaker 05

  Hairline kinda nice today?

• 1:49:51Speaker 06

  Thank you.

• 1:49:52Speaker 05

  Uh, with Mississippi State's kind of, uh, margin of victory fading throughout the season so far, is there, uh, where's your head out for the rest of the season?

• 1:50:01Speaker 06

  What, what does that even mean, Zach?

• 1:50:03Speaker 00

  Well, no, he's right. You guys were winning and then you were losing.

• 1:50:06Speaker 06

  But isn't that just getting into the meteor schedule and the opponents get tougher every time? Because, uh, we, we, I can't remember even who we opened with, UL Monroe, but then we beat the brakes off Minnesota in Minnesota. Sure. But we played, uh, South Carolina on the road, beat them by seven or something.

• 1:50:21Speaker 00

  Right. And then you beat.

• 1:50:22Speaker 06

  Then we beat Missouri by seven, who's the number seven, uh, number 12 team in the country now.

• 1:50:27Speaker 00

  Right. And then you lost, so it's diminishing.

• 1:50:29Speaker 06

  Yeah, but I think.

• 1:50:30Speaker 01

  But you just told me that Missouri is gonna lose to Ole Miss.

• 1:50:31Speaker 06

  They are. Uh, but the teams are, the, the teams are getting better. That's all. We're just getting in the meat of our schedule. We have one of the toughest schedules in the country.

• 1:50:38Speaker 00

  Yeah, no, uh, Max or Zach is, uh, dead wrong. I'm just gonna defend Zach here because you're going at him. Uh, you won the first game by 49.

• 1:50:46Speaker 06

  Sure.

• 1:50:46Speaker 00

  You won the second game by 25.

• 1:50:48Speaker 06

  Yeah, sure.

• 1:50:49Speaker 00

  You won the third game by seven. You won the fourth game by seven. Then you lost the, the, the fifth game by about a billion. So Zach is right. The margin of victory has, has been diminishing.

• 1:51:01Speaker 06

  Well, I would say it hasn't because the last two margins of victories are the same and the last one wasn't a victory. So that doesn't count towards margin of victory.

• 1:51:08Speaker 00

  If there's a, if there's a graph.

• 1:51:10Speaker 06

  Sure.

• 1:51:10Speaker 00

  Straight down.

• 1:51:12Speaker 06

  Right. But we played Alabama. We played the Alabama Crimson Tide.

• 1:51:15Speaker 00

  He didn't talk about the, did you say anything about who you're, they're playing? You just said.

• 1:51:19Speaker 05

  Not a word, just math.

• 1:51:20Speaker 06

  I guess to answer.

• 1:51:21Speaker 00

  Repeat the sentence.

• 1:51:22Speaker 06

  I guess to answer your question, Zach, um.

• 1:51:23Speaker 00

  What was the question?

• 1:51:24Speaker 06

  I'm not concerned with it because, uh, we're gonna get Camario healthy again. He's gonna get the mushrooms, gonna get big, and we're gonna be, we're gonna be good.

• 1:51:31Speaker 05

  Follow up?

• 1:51:31Speaker 06

  I thought he only got one.

• 1:51:33Speaker 00

  No, he gets follow ups. He always gets, he has unlimited follow ups.

• 1:51:35Speaker 05

  What loving home would you like to see Camaro Taylor go to next year?

• 1:51:38Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 1:51:38Speaker 01

  That's a bad question, Zach. That's a bad question. We've said, we've been on record. You should do a cowbell drive.

• 1:51:44Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:51:45Speaker 01

  You should make a Camaro cowbell.

• 1:51:47Speaker 00

  But also credit to Zach for asking the hard questions.

• 1:51:50Speaker 06

  Yeah, he's not going there.

• 1:51:51Speaker 00

  No, no, no. Credit to Zach.

• 1:51:52Speaker 06

  He loves Mississippi State. He grew up in Knoxville County. Ever been to Knoxville County?

• 1:51:55Speaker 00

  Do you?

• 1:51:56Speaker 06

  Beautiful place.

• 1:51:56Speaker 00

  Brandon, can I ask you a question?

• 1:51:57Speaker 06

  Max, are you telling him to say no? I, I figure he knows to say no.

• 1:52:00Speaker 05

  No, I was saying, I, I've never been there.

• 1:52:01Speaker 06

  Okay. Yes. You're gonna ask me a question?

• 1:52:06Speaker 00

  Do you think he loves Mississippi State more than he loves $20 million?

• 1:52:12Speaker 06

  I believe Mississippi State has the money on hand to, uh, to have Camaro in a Mississippi State uniform for life.

• 1:52:19Speaker 00

  $20 million for life? So he's not even gonna go to the NFL?

• 1:52:22Speaker 06

  No, no, no, no, no. He's gonna go to the NFL, but he will be, I, I, I have heard from other coaches on campus that the best recruiter in Starville is Camaro Taylor, that when they bring in recruits, they, you know, other.

• 1:52:34Speaker 00

  Is that illegal?

• 1:52:35Speaker 06

  Other sport. No, it's not illegal.

• 1:52:36Speaker 00

  Uh, he's not.

• 1:52:37Speaker 06

  Other sports, they, they, they let him talk to Camaro and, and, and Camaro convinces him to come to Mississippi State. Yes. He loves Mississippi State.

• 1:52:44Speaker 01

  You, you grew up in what county?

• 1:52:46Speaker 06

  I grew up in Clay County, West Point, Mississippi. Yes, which is one county north of Knoxville County.

• 1:52:50Speaker 01

  Okay, uh, but you, you never left Mississippi either.

• 1:52:54Speaker 06

  Oh, well, you.

• 1:52:55Speaker 00

  For money and opportunity?

• 1:52:59Speaker 06

  Here's the thing.

• 1:53:00Speaker 01

  We're actually doing the show right now.

• 1:53:02Speaker 06

  What do we have a meeting?

• 1:53:03Speaker 01

  From Knoxville County.

• 1:53:03Speaker 06

  What do we have a meeting about every six months?

• 1:53:06Speaker 00

  Yeah, you come into my office, you're like, I gotta go.

• 1:53:08Speaker 06

  I wanna go home. Yes. Please let me go home.

• 1:53:10Speaker 01

  The contract.

• 1:53:10Speaker 06

  And you say.

• 1:53:11Speaker 00

  Let's go now?

• 1:53:12Speaker 06

  And you say, relax. And I say, okay. And every six months I go in there and say, please let me go home.

• 1:53:16Speaker 00

  So you better hope that there's a me in Mississippi State when Camaro says.

• 1:53:21Speaker 06

  We got, we got yous.

• 1:53:22Speaker 00

  Yeah, but when Camaro goes into my virtual office in Mississippi State and says, I gotta go get that money.

• 1:53:30Speaker 06

  Yeah, just relax.

• 1:53:31Speaker 00

  Say, hey, relax.

• 1:53:31Speaker 06

  Relax. We got you. We got you.

• 1:53:33Speaker 00

  Stay here.

• 1:53:33Speaker 06

  Mississippi State's got plenty of money. I'm not worried about it. Uh, we're gonna build around him next year and we're gonna be a national title contender.

• 1:53:39Speaker 01

  I think this right here is a case in point. They should show this conversation to Camaro, like, hey, you can leave for more money, but you're always gonna wanna go back.

• 1:53:47Speaker 06

  You're gonna be a bitter, miserable old man.

• 1:53:49Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:53:49Speaker 00

  And also.

• 1:53:49Speaker 06

  Surrounded by assholes.

• 1:53:50Speaker 00

  I am rooting for Camaro to stay and then be good in the NFL because God knows Dak Prescott sucks.

• 1:53:57Speaker 06

  Dak Prescott obviously does not suck.

• 1:53:59Speaker 00

  No, he sucks.

• 1:54:00Speaker 06

  Dak Prescott had a bad game the other day. I will give you that. And the stadium workers are calling him embarrassing.

• 1:54:04Speaker 00

  You see him, Matty?

• 1:54:05Speaker 06

  It's a rough scene over there.

• 1:54:06Speaker 00

  He got so mad and then he realized, oh shit, if I go after this guy, it's probably gonna be the Daytona parking lot of y'all again.

• 1:54:11Speaker 06

  Did they, it wasn't Daytona.

• 1:54:13Speaker 00

  It was Panama City.

• 1:54:15Speaker 06

  And that was multiple guys. It was like 30 guys.

• 1:54:17Speaker 01

  Yeah, he got that guy fired.

• 1:54:20Speaker 06

  Did he? I don't think he got that guy fired.

• 1:54:21Speaker 01

  That's what.

• 1:54:22Speaker 06

  I think the camera.

• 1:54:22Speaker 01

  That's what I just read right now on Yahoo Sports. It was embarrassing. Michael Irvin lashes out at Dak Prescott for getting Cowboys and Bly fired.

• 1:54:29Speaker 00

  So Michael Irvin doubled down on the embar- embarrassing.

• 1:54:33Speaker 01

  Yeah. Yeah. Michael Irvin says Dak Prescott's conduct has embarrassed the Dallas Cowboys.

• 1:54:37Speaker 06

  Oh, Michael Irvin said that. Michael Irvin said, okay. Michael Irvin said that. Yeah, fine. All right.

• 1:54:43Speaker 01

  I, I love, I love Michael Irvin just not giving a fuck. Just, yeah, I know what they're gonna say.

• 1:54:48Speaker 06

  They had a house for strippers.

• 1:54:50Speaker 00

  Yes, seemed like it was awesome.

• 1:54:51Speaker 01

  That's actually pretty cool. Yeah. Do you think that's embarrassing?

• 1:54:53Speaker 00

  That's not embarrassing.

• 1:54:54Speaker 06

  No, but I'm just saying, we're talking about conduct. I mean, like, come on, what are we doing?

• 1:54:58Speaker 01

  But that's actually what the Cowboys are known for. It's like strippers, coke.

• 1:55:02Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:55:02Speaker 01

  Winning.

• 1:55:03Speaker 06

  It'd be embarrassing if they did the big three.

• 1:55:05Speaker 01

  Getting, getting subordinates fired.

• 1:55:07Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:55:08Speaker 06

  I don't think he got him. I don't think he walked in Jerry Jones' office and fired this person. I think the camera guy who called it got him fired.

• 1:55:15Speaker 01

  Uh, Brandon, you live in Milwaukee now.

• 1:55:16Speaker 06

  Yes.

• 1:55:17Speaker 01

  Are you rooting for the Brewers? You got the jacket on?

• 1:55:19Speaker 06

  Uh, I'm a Braves fan. Uh, they have zero ties to Milwaukee, but I, I, yeah, I like the Brewers and this is a sick jacket.

• 1:55:26Speaker 01

  So it's more about the jacket?

• 1:55:27Speaker 00

  It's not a great jacket.

• 1:55:28Speaker 06

  It's a sick jacket. It's a good looking jacket. I, I.

• 1:55:30Speaker 00

  Sick.

• 1:55:30Speaker 06

  It's a sick jacket.

• 1:55:31Speaker 01

  Is this, is this, right now, can we point at this moment and say, this is the peak of the Milwaukee Brewer season? The fact that Brandon Walker is now wearing a jacket.

• 1:55:38Speaker 00

  Sick, no, no, PT.

• 1:55:39Speaker 01

  Sick jacket.

• 1:55:40Speaker 00

  Thank you.

• 1:55:40Speaker 01

  Representing them, National Sports Podcast.

• 1:55:43Speaker 06

  Zach, help me out. Is this a sick jacket?

• 1:55:46Speaker 00

  I like the full embroidery on the chest, I'll say. It's a jacket.

• 1:55:49Speaker 01

  I'm also, I'm rooting for the Brewers, but I fear that right now what you're doing is jinxing them.

• 1:55:53Speaker 00

  You will tell me it's a sick jacket. I'll say that's a, I like the embroidery up front. It's a good jacket. Give me a sick jacket.

• 1:55:59Speaker 02

  I want to go back to, you're a Brewers fan.

• 1:56:01Speaker 00

  What, why? Sick jacket. No, I'm not.

• 1:56:03Speaker 02

  You've been to more Brewers fans in the past five years and you've been the brave, or brave.

• 1:56:07Speaker 00

  Yeah, I live here. Turn off your mic.

• 1:56:09Speaker 02

  You're a Brewers fan.

• 1:56:10Speaker 01

  The vibe of the, of the question was understood.

• 1:56:13Speaker 00

  We went too deep on the bench to try to, try to bully Brandon there.

• 1:56:17Speaker 02

  You're a Brewers fan.

• 1:56:18Speaker 00

  I, I've been to 25 Brewers games over the last two years.

• 1:56:21Speaker 02

  That's what I'm saying. You can't be like, I'm not a Brewers fan if you go to 25 games.

• 1:56:25Speaker 00

  I just think we gotta just.

• 1:56:26Speaker 02

  And you're wearing merch during the playoffs. You're a Brewers fan. You're not a Braves fan.

• 1:56:29Speaker 00

  It's also not that sick of a jacket.

• 1:56:31Speaker 02

  The jacket's fine.

• 1:56:32Speaker 00

  It's fine. It's not sick.

• 1:56:33Speaker 01

  It's just the Brewers have a good logo.

• 1:56:35Speaker 00

  It's a good, it's a sick logo.

• 1:56:36Speaker 01

  Anything that they, they have is.

• 1:56:38Speaker 00

  A sick logo on my jacket. Good job with the logo.

• 1:56:40Speaker 01

  Hmm.

• 1:56:40Speaker 00

  It's Eminem.

• 1:56:41Speaker 01

  I just fear that you're, you're jinxing him right now.

• 1:56:43Speaker 00

  I'm not jinxing. That would be a shame. Can we just stop with the fucking jinxes everywhere I go? Mississippi State. Can we stop? They lost Alabama because of you.

• 1:56:50Speaker 01

  Rasslin', Good Morning Sunshine, Milwaukee Brewers.

• 1:56:53Speaker 00

  Hey, hey, hey. Dak Prescott. Okay, all right, all right. We'll see you, Brandon. Thank you, as always.

• 1:56:59Speaker 01

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• 1:58:05Speaker 00

  Okay, we now welcome on a very, very special guest, our good friend, Bill Burr, in studio. It's been a while. He's got a new movie out, Social Reckoning. Uh huh. Uh, Aaron Sorkin. Yes. Movie. I, so I wanted to ask. Small part. I wanted to ask a question about that. It's Aaron's movie, yeah. When you're reading an Aaron Sorkin script, I mean, that, he's known for how sharp and he doesn't waste any words and the dialogue is just, you know, it's almost like watching like a good, uh, like flyweight boxing match where it's like punch, punch, punch, you know, nonstop. When you're doing the lines, if you throw in an um by accident, is he like, what are you doing? Come on, cut. No, no, no. That's all, that's all that

• 1:58:47Speaker 00

  stuff that people like invent that happens. Like, what the fuck? There was a comma there. Like, that doesn't happen. No, if it's a good take, it's a good take. Um. But it is so, like, I'm sure reading it. It's not necessary. It's not necessary to like add, um, cause like you said, there is no, there's no fat on it. So there, there's, you, you would just be slowing it down, I guess. But there was a couple of times I threw in some extra words and he came in and he was just, hey, you said, you said blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I like that. That was good. That moved like, do, do that again. And it was just like, I, I kinda, you know, then you gotta remember what you did or whatever. Yeah, that ruins it for me. I wish, I wish it was more, hey, Bill, you added an extra word. If you ever do that again, I'll kill your whole family.

• 1:59:32Speaker 00

  I know, but that's what everybody wants the movie set to be. And somebody's locked themselves in. David O. Russell, yeah. Yeah, and they refuse to come out and then they throw a phone at somebody and it's just like, that's the stuff that always makes the news, but it's, what it really is, is like, dude, it's, it's already gonna be a 12 to 14 hour day. Right. Like, let's not make it a 16 hour day. So everybody knows that. So you know, if, if, if, you know, I guess if, I mean, I've been really lucky. I've only a couple of times worked with, you know, somebody that had an issue and like, it's just like, oh my God, like, it's like, if you were at the DMV and somebody goes, you know, we're gonna add another three hours to this. Right. It's like, you're gonna come out

• 2:00:17Speaker 00

  eventually and then we're just gonna have to do this shit. So just come out and do it. Right, right. Let's, let's get out of here.

• 2:00:23Speaker 01

  You, you realize like day one, oh, it's gonna be that kind of shoot and then you just kinda look around, well, I guess I'm doing it. So I can't go anywhere. Uh, the, the, um, premise of the movie is fascinating to me. Did you go back? Did you like learn a lot about Facebook and Zuckerberg and, and the board battles and all that stuff before, uh, you, you started acting in it?

• 2:00:42Speaker 00

  Yeah, no, I did, I did look into, uh, kind of like, and, you know, like that, the way I watch sports is I just look at the players and like the, the crazy people to me, the ones that know the GM and the ownership and stuff like that. So I just was on Facebook like everybody for a while and then moved on to something else, but I never got into the whole, you know, the behind the scenes and like most people, I learned a lot of it with the first one. So this one is not a sequel. I've been told, I gotta say, it's a companion piece. So it's not like, it's, well, it's not like this happened and it's not. I didn't even know a companion piece was a. It's not Rambo 2. Okay. Does that put it in your world? Yeah, yeah, that's fair. Yeah, yeah. It's, yeah. Wayne's World 2.

• 2:01:23Speaker 00

  So this is kinda like, the first thing was like how it started and this one is a separate thing where it's like, this has been the result of like social media, just in general, cause probably none of them have been really good for us. So, um, examines like, you know, cyber bullying and get kids killing themselves because of it and, uh. Oh, some light topics. The depression. Well, I mean, what, what are you supposed to do? Ignore it? I can't find, no, you can't. I mean, uh, Toy Story 5 had it all in there. Kids on their iPads. Oh, yeah. Yeah, Toy Story is, is kinda like without, it's, that's a rough one. Yeah. That, that Psycho in the big, the first one, like, like destroying the toys reminded me of every older kid that beat the shit out of me.

• 2:02:03Speaker 00

  And then that piece of shit that like had the, the, the toy store and he took them and he was shipping them off, very like sex trafficking. Yeah. Sort of undertones. Toy Story 5 was like, uh, the girl getting like bullied in a clique, like with friends online and stuff. And I was like, damn, this is. Yeah. And my seven and five year old are like, we love the movie. They didn't understand any of it. Yeah. But that's, I was like, this is making me kinda bummed out. It was like Ice Age. Ice Age. Hey, let's take the kids to this. Ah, fuck, global warming. But wait, so. I can't get away from it. Well, you're not gonna get an escape on this one either. Right, right. You're like, ah, the kids love it, but they don't see what I'm seeing. Uh, so that, this has all that because I mean, it is.

• 2:02:45Speaker 00

  It's hard to think about, but I mean, the, the, the internet, we, we joke about it. Our job is to be on the internet, but there's many days where like, this was maybe a bad idea. Yeah, no, it was. It wasn't. We should all maybe try to get off of it. I, I think that in the future that that's gonna, once they bring the robots in, the only way to protest will be peacefully. So we'll just, we'll have to all collectively somehow get on the same page and be like, we're gonna be off the internet for 10 days if you guys don't knock it off with these robots. So, you know, we're gonna get off our phones or something. Well, we won't be able to hold, they'll call our bluff. Well, I don't get this shit where they're going like, AI could kill us. It's like. Well, that was, you know, that was. It's like a machine. It's in like, it's not like, is that because the, the robots are gonna be AI?

• 2:03:27Speaker 00

  No, that was an entire, uh, uh, op by, by the AI companies. And I, I will say, I'm not an expert. Well, no, are you in on these meetings? No, I, I read, I saw one Instagram reel where the woman made a very compelling case and I've now gone around and told everyone this is what's happening as it is fact. So I'll. Cause it's on the internet. Cause I saw. And there's no rules of libel or slander. Essentially, essentially.

• 2:03:51Speaker 01

  And this might have been an AI.

• 2:03:53Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:03:53Speaker 01

  Character that.

• 2:03:54Speaker 00

  But no, but this made a lot of sense. You could, you could tell me if this is great, but essentially all of these AI companies have gone way over their skis. They've taken a ton of money in. They've created this thing that doesn't actually have any use for anyone. That I learned that I loved, exit capital. Yes, right. So they don't, they don't have any. If it's tanks, I still get 50 million. They don't have any, like, there's nothing that they're actually going to do. They've created all this, they, they've reached these new frontiers or whatever they call it and, uh, they, they don't have like a use for it. And so now they've taken all this money in, they don't have a way to make money. So they're just trying to scare us? So the, so the guy who did the whistleblowing was part of it where he basically was like, oh yeah, they're gonna kill all of us. Now they're asking for the government to step in to regulate it so they can turn around to their investors and be like,

• 2:04:39Speaker 00

  listen, we were about to make so much money, but the government regulated us. Now we can't make the money. Happy ending. I like that. And they're also trying. I, I'm choosing to believe, I like that one better. Simultaneously, they're also asking the government to be like, hey, can we just look the other way on monopoly laws so that we can all work together and then make all the money, uh. I work for Live Nation. I'm familiar. Yeah, yeah, but this is, no, this is, I saw it and I was like, you know what? I like this more than AI is gonna kill us. So I'm just gonna go with this. Yeah. Some good old like abuse of capitalism. That's what I like about the internet. You have options on what narrative. Yeah. I'm gonna, I'm gonna believe the one that makes me feel okay.

• 2:05:17Speaker 00

  And the best part is, it was literally like this entire thing that I just said was because I was, uh, like many, uh, people in America, I was laying in bed uh, next to my wife and she like two feet away from me sent, texted me an Instagram reel that then I watched. You know what I mean? When you're, when you're sitting right next to each other, they send each other. I have rules on that. I'm like, dude, this is like a two in the afternoon text. I, I can't before my coffee and eggs. Yeah. Fucking have my eyebrows up like this, reading this shit. But I will say, the internet is, is like, it's, it's wildly misleading, just as far as touring around.

• 2:05:54Speaker 06

  You know.

• 2:05:54Speaker 00

  It's not real.

• 2:05:55Speaker 06

  And it isn't. Dude, I went to like Battle Creek, Michigan last night. I've never been there. One of my favorite crowds, and I could not have been more different than them. It's, it's like, uh, you know, they're, they're known for like military bases there, uh, you know, farmers and all of that type of stuff. They all got like flannels on and it's not because they're into Pearl Jam. It's because they actually work for a fucking living.

• 2:06:17Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:06:17Speaker 06

  And I went up there, could not have been any different than them and they were just such a fun crowd. Like I was like, hey, you know, I go, this is beautiful out here and they were just going like, yeah, right.

• 2:06:27Speaker 00

  Right.

• 2:06:28Speaker 06

  And it was one of those things where they could shit on where they were from, but if I did, they would come at me. So there was this great like back and forth and they had this really, you know, great sense of humor or whatever. And, uh, I don't know. I, I have, I have fun with, uh, I mean, I can go there and have a good time and I can go to like, you know, I go to a really conservative place or an insufferably liberal place and still have fun. And as long as I don't come up there like, you know, thinking you know, everything and you respect them and you're just joking around. Like it actually, it, it, all of that stupid shit goes away.

• 2:07:03Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:07:04Speaker 06

  And you have a good time.

• 2:07:05Speaker 01

  And also. Face to face is a lot different. And then like, it's kind of like, if you're in a car, if you're in a car and you're in traffic, you, you hate the car in front of you. If they like cut in front of you, like what the fuck?

• 2:07:14Speaker 06

  Oh, and you also have a black belt in every discipline you never took.

• 2:07:17Speaker 01

  Right.

• 2:07:18Speaker 06

  Like fucking pull over.

• 2:07:19Speaker 01

  When we're in these little boxes that we travel around and we get pissed off at people that are in their little box that like changes into our lane. Doesn't give us a thank you wave, doesn't let us and whatever the case may be. When you're online, you're in your little box. And like, I think people just get, they're way more likely to get mad than if they're not, than if they're, you know, face to face, if they're outside that box. Like, cause people, the road rage happens because people go insane when they're not actually talking to somebody. They just have these characters in their brain of somebody that they're pissed off at. But then you get to face to face. It turns out like 90% of people are, are, are very cool and you can get along with almost everyone.

• 2:07:51Speaker 06

  Yeah. Also sometimes I think the road rage has nothing to do with the guy cutting it off. It's probably something that happened at home.

• 2:07:57Speaker 01

  A hundred percent.

• 2:07:57Speaker 06

  Or 20 years ago.

• 2:07:59Speaker 01

  Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Face to face. It's like everyone's, everyone's nice.

• 2:08:04Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:08:04Speaker 06

  I, yeah. So that's kind of what I, I feel like everybody's cool. And then the AI people, politicians, 24 hour news networks, they, they're presenting like the whole, everybody's head is on fire. And like, I, I, I know it's probably not a good thing, but I, I had to kind of stop watching news like almost a decade ago. Cause I like, this is like driving me insane because they're all saying all this crazy shit and there's no solution. It's like your wife sending you that text. Look what AI is going to do. Ah, where can we go? What can we do? And then like you just, I, I, I, yeah, no.

• 2:08:39Speaker 00

  But, but all the people in Battle Creek who went out to your show, like those aren't people who are online, like commenting on everything and, and getting in fights on Twitter and.

• 2:08:47Speaker 06

  Oh yeah. No, it was very, very.

• 2:08:49Speaker 00

  That's.

• 2:08:49Speaker 06

  Trumpy and, and word adjacent, but I was able to kind of find a, a lane in there.

• 2:08:54Speaker 00

  But the real world is like, I, that's.

• 2:08:57Speaker 01

  Hey, I'm all.

• 2:08:58Speaker 06

  Not everybody, but you know, you know, you bring up certain topics and then you, you feel, but like, I'm not just shitting on conservative crowds because liberal crowds drive me nuts because they pretend like they care about everything. Like I said something about midgets the other day and I was, I was at Largo corner and they're like, ah, I go like, stop acting like you all have a dwarf friend that you gotta stick up for.

• 2:09:19Speaker 00

  We actually do. We have.

• 2:09:20Speaker 06

  Yeah. You don't care.

• 2:09:21Speaker 00

  Bring Z. Now, yeah, Z, get in here.

• 2:09:22Speaker 01

  Say that to, I'd like to hear you say it to Z's face.

• 2:09:25Speaker 06

  Well, let me remember what the joke was.

• 2:09:26Speaker 01

  He's also African American, if you'd like to make fun of that.

• 2:09:28Speaker 06

  What was the joke?

• 2:09:30Speaker 00

  We got you on that one.

• 2:09:32Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:09:32Speaker 06

  No, I was improv-ing. I, I want to make sure I remember what it was. What the fuck was I talking about? I remember the ending and once I remember the ending, I can't remember the beginning because my brain works like linear.

• 2:09:42Speaker 01

  It, it is weird though, with, with the AI companies trying to scare us because I think everybody, everybody thinks that they're so special that the world is going to end while they're alive. It goes back thousands of years. Everyone's like, oh, doomsday is coming. I'm, I'm telling you guys, this is the end times. This is the end of everything and every generation thinks.

• 2:09:59Speaker 06

  Become an old guy, you gotta tell everybody they missed all the good times.

• 2:10:02Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:10:02Speaker 06

  Yeah. You don't realize that right now, there's going to be kids who are alive right now in 2050 telling kids that they missed the 2020s. Like this is it. It's like, yeah.

• 2:10:11Speaker 00

  It was the best, the best music, the best, yeah.

• 2:10:13Speaker 06

  Yeah. It's like they're young. They're having a good time. Just let them have a good time. Stop telling them that they missed the eighties.

• 2:10:17Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:10:18Speaker 06

  Oh dude, the nineties, man. You fucking.

• 2:10:20Speaker 00

  Oh, the nineties nostalgia is like out of hand right now.

• 2:10:23Speaker 01

  It's always like, the best time was when you were 13.

• 2:10:25Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 2:10:26Speaker 01

  Yeah. That's when the world was at its peak.

• 2:10:28Speaker 06

  Yeah, that was it. That was basically it.

• 2:10:30Speaker 00

  All right. So what, what do you got? What's pissing you off? I even, you haven't called me in a while about, uh, something that you watched on sports. I guess now football season's coming back.

• 2:10:38Speaker 06

  Oh, I, I always have like.

• 2:10:39Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:10:40Speaker 06

  Like two or three times.

• 2:10:41Speaker 00

  Yeah. Just a voice memo from you being like, I can't stand these, this, the, when a defensive back, the ball gets thrown 20 yards out of the field.

• 2:10:48Speaker 06

  Oh my God. That, that will, that'll take that to my grave. The under thrown pass.

• 2:10:52Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:10:53Speaker 06

  And then the wide receiver stops and fights his way through the defensive back.

• 2:10:57Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:10:57Speaker 06

  And you reward the quarterback for a shit throw in a first down. Um.

• 2:11:01Speaker 00

  I got, I got one for you to start off.

• 2:11:03Speaker 06

  What's, what's been driving me nuts is the, the, is Drake May a fraud?

• 2:11:07Speaker 00

  Wow. Oh no.

• 2:11:08Speaker 01

  No, it's a valid question.

• 2:11:10Speaker 06

  Oh Jesus.

• 2:11:11Speaker 00

  He's got a, he's got a video.

• 2:11:12Speaker 06

  Last year was like a fluke.

• 2:11:14Speaker 01

  I can go through the schedule real quick that he played last year with the Raiders. I think, I think he played the Browns like four times last year.

• 2:11:22Speaker 06

  Yeah, that's, can I tell you what? That's some ball watching shit. Our problem is our offensive line. We can't run the ball either.

• 2:11:28Speaker 01

  Right.

• 2:11:28Speaker 06

  We can't throw, we can't fucking run. And then what happens? We have three and outs and then our defense has to keep coming out. And by the third quarter, they're fucking tired. And then you have an ugly game like you do against Jacksonville. We beat Pittsburgh. We were competitive against Seattle. Seattle fucking destroyed us in the Superbowl. And if you look at like.

• 2:11:44Speaker 00

  We're this, this interview is coming out next week, so you better hope that he looks good against the Bills.

• 2:11:48Speaker 06

  Or else what? My status as a football fan is revoked.

• 2:11:52Speaker 00

  Ball knower card will have to take you away from you.

• 2:11:54Speaker 06

  Here's another thing too, like, I, I, I don't know if anybody looked up this stat. There is no fucking way. Any team who turned over the ball, the amount of times we did in the playoffs, made it to a Superbowl.

• 2:12:05Speaker 00

  You're probably right about that.

• 2:12:05Speaker 06

  We turned the ball over five times against Houston and they turned it over six times. Then we played the Broncos. Bo Nix was out. We fucking backed our way into this week. We sort of overachieved. It's like, it's like the divisional round of the playoffs.

• 2:12:18Speaker 00

  You're.

• 2:12:19Speaker 06

  These guys are like shaking up champagne. It's like, dude, this is a money grab by MLB. Like Tony Kornheiser is going like the Yankees, Red Sox. It's, it's not what it used to be. It's like, dude, it's a second and third place team.

• 2:12:30Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:12:30Speaker 06

  Shaking up champagne because they were seven, eight games out of first and they made the playoffs. Like what the fuck are we doing here?

• 2:12:36Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:12:36Speaker 06

  Like, let's wait till like, not even, you know, the next round, it starts to get good. But like.

• 2:12:40Speaker 00

  You're getting the hate back.

• 2:12:41Speaker 06

  No, but it's still, until that, no, it's for Tony Kornheiser.

• 2:12:44Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:12:44Speaker 06

  Being lazy.

• 2:12:46Speaker 00

  No, I mean, we, we were talking about it on today's show, like, I don't know what the solution is, but it did, I mean, the Cubs were in, the Cubs basically weren't in the playoffs. They played two games and they were, they were trailing in 17 of the 18 innings and I didn't cheer once. And it was just like, well, that sucked. You know what I mean? That wasn't even the playoffs. Like.

• 2:13:04Speaker 06

  Well, the third place team isn't ready to be there. Like the Red Sox are going in the right direction. Our first half was horrific. We had a magical July and then we kind of came down to, settled kind of where we were in September, win some, lose some.

• 2:13:18Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:13:18Speaker 06

  And then somehow we're shaking up champagne, going to the playoffs as the third place team. It's just to make, it's to add games, more money. That's all that is. But like, you know, it's like the September games in college football. At this point, you're paying the kids. I don't want to see Alabama playing Arapahoe Community College.

• 2:13:35Speaker 00

  Yeah, no, you, I wish they had more of the.

• 2:13:37Speaker 06

  Yeah, let's, let's just start fucking playing from day one.

• 2:13:40Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:13:40Speaker 06

  Because it's over by Thanksgiving. It's so short and you dick around for the first three weeks. It's annoying.

• 2:13:46Speaker 00

  We're already like a third of the way through the season and it was like that. By the way, I have one for baseball for you, which drives me nuts now. The guys, and maybe it's just, it's going to take a couple of years for them to get used to it. But guys who are walking, getting like, uh, they're, they're at the plate, they strike out and then they're arguing with the ump. And it's like, dude, you could do something about this now. Just challenge the call.

• 2:14:09Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 2:14:09Speaker 00

  They'll, they'll argue balls and strikes.

• 2:14:11Speaker 06

  That's what I don't like about it.

• 2:14:12Speaker 00

  Dude, do something about it. Tap your fucking head and just do something about it.

• 2:14:15Speaker 06

  Then they have like the irrefutable evidence. So there's no more arguing and all of that stuff.

• 2:14:20Speaker 00

  Yeah. Well, check swings now. Still, you could still argue.

• 2:14:23Speaker 01

  That's most of the conversations that are had on baseball is arguments and we're getting less of those. And, but there was a cool moment in the Braves series. The Braves won on a, a walk off.

• 2:14:32Speaker 00

  Phillies.

• 2:14:32Speaker 01

  Oh yeah. The Phillies, the Phillies Braves series, the Phillies won on a walk off ABS check.

• 2:14:38Speaker 00

  That was, that was electric.

• 2:14:39Speaker 01

  And the Braves struck out and there was like a 15 second pause.

• 2:14:42Speaker 06

  What is ABS?

• 2:14:43Speaker 01

  It's the system, review. It's a replay system.

• 2:14:46Speaker 00

  I actually don't know what it stands for.

• 2:14:47Speaker 01

  Automatic ball strike.

• 2:14:49Speaker 00

  There we go. That makes sense.

• 2:14:50Speaker 01

  I don't know. But no, but there was a moment, it was like 10 seconds that, uh, we all sat and we waited like when they bring the chain out onto the field.

• 2:14:57Speaker 06

  Oh yeah.

• 2:14:58Speaker 01

  And so you're waiting to see what the final result is and they show the pitch come in and it's an electric moment because it's like a new play that you get to watch and react to.

• 2:15:05Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:15:06Speaker 01

  It was a pretty cool way to end the game.

• 2:15:07Speaker 00

  You, you did mention, I mean, we, we've had this take for a long time that when people say robot umps and, and do everything with, you know, the sky cam and all that stuff, you would take like 50% of guys' conversations away from them. We're like, we can't.

• 2:15:22Speaker 06

  There's no more death threats on umpires.

• 2:15:23Speaker 00

  Yeah. We can't blame, if we can't blame humans and we have to actually say our team was worse than the other team and have to come to grips with like, oh, our team might suck. We, it wasn't the fact that we got screwed. That would ruin everyone's brain. Like we can't handle that.

• 2:15:39Speaker 06

  Right. Well, here's how I would fix NBA basketball because it just looks like a shoot around to me. Like I don't want to watch a six foot 11 guy taking 23 pointers. So this is what I would do. I would get rid of the defensive three second rule.

• 2:15:50Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 2:15:51Speaker 06

  The guy can stand down there again. I'd get rid of the three point line until the final two minutes of each quarter. Then it lights up. Then you can take your threes.

• 2:15:58Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 2:15:59Speaker 06

  And we get back to fucking pick and rolls, give and goes and backdoor passes and actually dunking on somebody. Instead of everybody clearing out of the lane if they're even in there because they don't want to end up on Instagram. And then watching the guy yelling like he's in 300. It's like you dunked on nobody.

• 2:16:12Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:16:13Speaker 06

  You dunked on nobody.

• 2:16:14Speaker 00

  I like, I like. Get your ass in the post, get, learn a couple of moves.

• 2:16:18Speaker 06

  Well, they took away 80% of the fucking game.

• 2:16:21Speaker 00

  Yeah. No, you're right.

• 2:16:22Speaker 06

  So I went to my first WNBA game, you know, I got a daughter, so I took her out to that. We had, it was, dude, it was a fucking great time. And the shoot around looked like an NBA shoot around. They were fucking hitting their shots. The game had kind of, you know, that it, it's not as, as accurate, but, uh, the same thing was the first quarter. It's a perimeter game. They're both ice cold and they just keep launching three pointers because of analytics. It's like, what's wrong with the 12 footer?

• 2:16:47Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:16:47Speaker 06

  Just get to the elbow.

• 2:16:48Speaker 00

  The layup counts as too.

• 2:16:49Speaker 06

  And also, I know. Twenty nine point three feet out, you get one extra point. How about a fucking layup?

• 2:16:57Speaker 00

  What about, what about?

• 2:16:57Speaker 06

  And then the last one that I get you with is the two point conversion. Everybody psychologically thinks it's easy because it's only two points. It's like, no, you have to score back to back touchdowns.

• 2:17:07Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:17:08Speaker 06

  Just kick the fucking.

• 2:17:09Speaker 00

  When you put it that way, that is, I also liked that you unironically just did the, you know, I went to a WNBA game because I have a daughter.

• 2:17:16Speaker 06

  No, but here's the thing, I fucking loved it. They hate each other.

• 2:17:20Speaker 00

  Yeah, no, there's real fucking anger.

• 2:17:22Speaker 06

  No, it's a good dude. Angel Reese is fucking hilarious. They just closed somebody out and she was waving goodbye to him, but she was like a wrestling heel.

• 2:17:29Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:17:29Speaker 06

  I was like, oh my, I'm like, I kind of liked this.

• 2:17:31Speaker 00

  Katelyn Clark gets like assaulted every game and it just becomes like a big story.

• 2:17:34Speaker 06

  Give me a fucking.

• 2:17:35Speaker 00

  She got smoked in the face last night.

• 2:17:37Speaker 06

  But that's what's supposed to happen.

• 2:17:38Speaker 00

  I agree. No, I'm saying that's a good thing.

• 2:17:39Speaker 06

  If you come into the rookie, if you come in as a rookie and you're making more than all the veterans.

• 2:17:43Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:17:44Speaker 06

  That's how it always worked in guys, guy sports.

• 2:17:46Speaker 01

  That's how you develop a storyline too. It's like if that happens in the NBA, you get, you get her personal enforcer on the team that stands up for you. The Robert Ori to the Michael Jordan. You get bad blood that develops over the years, like with the bad boy Pistons. Like that's how sports is supposed to evolve. There's, the, the difference is we're incapable of having a sane conversation about the WNBA.

• 2:18:05Speaker 00

  Correct.

• 2:18:06Speaker 01

  Nobody has, has made any sense for the past three years about the WNBA. And it's, it's driving me crazy to see people talk about it.

• 2:18:12Speaker 06

  It's a kind of a nice kept secret. It's actually, it's competitive and it's fun and they fucking hate each other.

• 2:18:18Speaker 00

  Hate each other.

• 2:18:19Speaker 06

  Hate each other, dude. It's, it's kind of like.

• 2:18:20Speaker 00

  And the best part is they don't, they won't admit they hate each other. I love that shit. When they do like the player voting for all stars and Katelyn Clark ends up being like the seventh voted player. And, and it's like, you, it's like you guys hate her. You just did like a survivor vote and you voted her off the island.

• 2:18:38Speaker 06

  I'm finding myself when I'm turning the channels, if it's on, I'm watching it.

• 2:18:42Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:18:42Speaker 06

  It's, it's.

• 2:18:43Speaker 00

  I watched the whole game last night.

• 2:18:44Speaker 06

  It's a good time.

• 2:18:45Speaker 01

  I would love to see basketball, WNBA in particular, but, but NBA too, adopt the hockey rules and just let them fight. Two guys square up, fight, that's fine. Shake hands.

• 2:18:55Speaker 06

  Can I tell you something? The chest bumping is enough for me. I always get concerned about their titties. I'm just like, ow, that just looked. You wouldn't go ball bag to ball bag.

• 2:19:04Speaker 00

  No, maybe we should.

• 2:19:06Speaker 01

  Can you imagine that though? If, if you had like two enforcers on the NBA team just square off, center court.

• 2:19:12Speaker 06

  I don't think we need that.

• 2:19:13Speaker 01

  One minute fight.

• 2:19:14Speaker 00

  Just a couple of fights.

• 2:19:14Speaker 01

  In hockey is fine.

• 2:19:16Speaker 06

  I know, but that's what makes it special.

• 2:19:18Speaker 00

  It's part of it.

• 2:19:18Speaker 01

  That is true. Yeah.

• 2:19:19Speaker 06

  Yeah. And then everybody, I always love, you gotta get the hockey out of, you gotta get the hockey, you gotta get the fighting out of hockey. It's like, well then don't we need to get it out of boxing? Cause that's, that's all they do.

• 2:19:28Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:19:28Speaker 06

  No, that's the sweet science.

• 2:19:30Speaker 00

  Also, how are you gonna, how are you gonna turn around a season if you can't fight? If you're in hockey, you know, how you turn around a game?

• 2:19:35Speaker 06

  There was a great book, uh, my buddy Joe Bartnik, amazing comedian gave to me, it was the rules of enforcers. And there's so many fights that are avoided.

• 2:19:43Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:19:44Speaker 06

  This guy was saying, some, sometimes they just skate out into the ice, at least the old days. And the, the enforcer would come out there and he would just say, and out loud to nobody, but to everybody, hey man, things better settle down out here. Somebody could get hurt.

• 2:19:56Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:19:56Speaker 06

  And people would be like, all right, all right, dad's home, you know? And everybody would kind of settle. It didn't always have to be that way, but you know, like there's, there's like ebbs and flows with like, I, I think the golden age of enforcers and goal scorers was the eighties.

• 2:20:14Speaker 06

  Where you, you, you had, you know, the Jay Millers, the Chris Nylons, the Proberts, and then you had Isnerman, Lemieux and Gretzky and, and all of those. It was kind of like, you know, we'll never see, I mean, Patrick Wa kind of ruined the sports when, when, when he took goaltending to the next level.

• 2:20:32Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:20:33Speaker 06

  Because if you look at those, the reason why guys were scoring like, you know, uh, you know, defensemen could score like 30, 40 goals, they were stand up goaltenders. They would just stand there.

• 2:20:41Speaker 00

  They would never butterfly. Yeah.

• 2:20:42Speaker 06

  Kick their leg out, but once he came down and did that, I'm not shitting on Patrick Wa. I mean, the guy literally changed the position like a Lawrence Taylor. But like it, the great ones also kind of hurt the game.

• 2:20:53Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:20:54Speaker 01

  Yeah. And they started to get soft and the goalie started wearing masks too.

• 2:20:57Speaker 00

  Yeah, true.

• 2:20:59Speaker 06

  No, what was happening there was they, they curved the stick and then the puck started coming up and that's why they needed the mask.

• 2:21:05Speaker 00

  The fighting thing is so funny. We are, you know, spitting chicklets to guys. They do best hockey podcasts out there, but Biz was obviously a fighter and he, we asked him like every now and then, like, what was it like? He's like, we just skate up next to a guy and just be like, you want one? And then next thing you know, they're just trying to kill each other. Like they are simple, like friendly, like, oh, you want to have a go today?

• 2:21:25Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 2:21:25Speaker 00

  And they're just like, I'm going to try to bash your brains in. And it's just such a funny concept.

• 2:21:29Speaker 06

  Yeah. And most of those guys, they're, they're really like nice, chill.

• 2:21:32Speaker 00

  He's the, Biz is the nicest guy in the world. And like.

• 2:21:35Speaker 06

  You shake their hand. It's like, it's like a bear paw.

• 2:21:37Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:21:38Speaker 06

  You're like.

• 2:21:38Speaker 00

  He would do anything for anyone.

• 2:21:40Speaker 06

  On his hand that I have in my torso.

• 2:21:42Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:21:42Speaker 06

  It's, it's like they're wearing a boxing mitt. Like those guys are just like, uh, like built for it.

• 2:21:48Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:21:48Speaker 01

  I, I gotta ask you a little bit about the Dodgers because you, I'm sure some of your friends are Dodgers fans. They are ruining baseball.

• 2:21:56Speaker 06

  Well, I mean, I think they're following the tradition of ruining baseball.

• 2:22:00Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:22:00Speaker 06

  I mean, you gotta go back to, you know, George Steinbrenner was, you know, that was, that was his thing, going out and buying everybody else's stars. So, and then the Red Sox followed them over the waterfall of that, you know, because no one was stopping them. So you had to fight fire with fire. So there's, there's always been teams doing that, but, uh, I can't like logically get myself, because I'm a Red Sox fan, it was funny to me to see the Yankees and Dodgers in the world series and make, and see the Dodgers make the Yankees look like a mom and pop store.

• 2:22:34Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:22:34Speaker 06

  There was something funny about that to me to see like, oh, look at somebody who's got deeper pockets. But I heard they're like a startup though, or not a startup, a, uh, private equity. So they just have endless amounts of funds.

• 2:22:47Speaker 00

  Maybe.

• 2:22:47Speaker 06

  I would.

• 2:22:48Speaker 00

  Maybe.

• 2:22:48Speaker 01

  Maybe. We don't know.

• 2:22:49Speaker 00

  Maybe.

• 2:22:49Speaker 01

  Their owner, he was the owner of the, uh, or he's the owner of the Lakers that just sold.

• 2:22:53Speaker 06

  Oh.

• 2:22:53Speaker 00

  He's been moving money around and trying to.

• 2:22:56Speaker 01

  But you make a good point.

• 2:22:57Speaker 00

  It's been a whole.

• 2:22:58Speaker 06

  You guys are like all the president's men of, of fucking sports. I love.

• 2:23:01Speaker 00

  Well, that's the thing. You could tell us.

• 2:23:03Speaker 06

  Front office.

• 2:23:03Speaker 00

  You could tell like in all the politics, political wars, wars and stuff. And I'm just like, I'm just not going to talk about that. And they're like, did you know the Dodgers might've been cheating? I'm like, let me read a hundred pages about this, please. So yeah, they, they, they could be cheating.

• 2:23:17Speaker 01

  It is interesting.

• 2:23:18Speaker 00

  Big time.

• 2:23:19Speaker 01

  It's very, because did you hear what happened with Lakers? Like why he's being investigated, why he sold the team?

• 2:23:23Speaker 00

  He sold the team in nine months, Bill.

• 2:23:25Speaker 01

  He made $2 billion profit.

• 2:23:26Speaker 00

  He's seen, he made $2.5 billion. He owned it for nine months.

• 2:23:29Speaker 06

  Feels like an Aaron Sorkin movie.

• 2:23:30Speaker 00

  No, I swear.

• 2:23:31Speaker 06

  All right, I did it.

• 2:23:32Speaker 00

  Yeah. Bill, sit down. We're trying to talk to you right now.

• 2:23:35Speaker 06

  All right, slow down. I'm an old fella now. Slow down. Okay. So he sold it in nine months because what? He, something was coming.

• 2:23:42Speaker 00

  Bought it, sold it. He was nine months because.

• 2:23:44Speaker 06

  It's a flip.

• 2:23:46Speaker 00

  He flipped it because he's under investigation and.

• 2:23:49Speaker 01

  Department of Justice looking into his finances.

• 2:23:51Speaker 00

  Department of Justice is like, hey, you have just been reporting this all wrong. You have to like come up with billions of dollars in liquid by the end of the year. And so he started just selling everything.

• 2:24:01Speaker 01

  He ran, uh, like insurance and financial services companies. That's where he made his money. And he was taking some of the money that was coming in allegedly that should be marked as being, uh, safe investments only. For like life insurance payout, stuff like that. You have to take care of those funds in a way that doesn't put your investors' money at risk. It's, they're like very serious about that. But allegedly he was taking that money and then funneling that to the Lakers, to the Dodgers, to his other businesses.

• 2:24:26Speaker 06

  To get players?

• 2:24:27Speaker 01

  Sometimes, and sometimes to make up for shortfalls in cash or to invest into the growth of his other businesses.

• 2:24:32Speaker 06

  Sounds like a Ponzi scheme.

• 2:24:33Speaker 01

  And then he would pay back.

• 2:24:35Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:24:35Speaker 01

  The, the funds that were marked, that should have been marked as safe investments only for his, like, uh, for all the, uh, insurance investors out there.

• 2:24:43Speaker 06

  If you're doing shit like that, can you imagine when your head hits the pillow that night? How do you get to sleep?

• 2:24:47Speaker 00

  Right?

• 2:24:48Speaker 06

  They're going like, all right, if I move this over.

• 2:24:50Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:24:50Speaker 06

  Sign this fucking.

• 2:24:51Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:24:51Speaker 01

  So he sold, he sold the Lakers $2 billion profit in one year for owning the team, which is crazy. That money is now going to.

• 2:24:59Speaker 06

  He made two bill, it, it increased in value that much?

• 2:25:02Speaker 01

  Well, that's the other question is did it really increase in value that much? Or did the people that buy the team from him agree, we're going to pay a premium.

• 2:25:09Speaker 00

  We're going to do you a solid.

• 2:25:10Speaker 01

  You can get out of this investigation.

• 2:25:12Speaker 06

  Guys, this is feeling like a limited series to me.

• 2:25:15Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah.

• 2:25:15Speaker 06

  I think you guys ought to start shooting.

• 2:25:17Speaker 01

  Let me tell you about Manchester City soccer. That, that's a whole new ball max over there.

• 2:25:23Speaker 06

  Well, I heard, I heard that like private equity is slowly infiltrating sports. I, I think this is like sort of the, the end of, uh, you know, I don't know, like, like sports for the longest time has, has just gone in a bad direction. Like all these new stadiums were complete horseshit. That whole bullshit of like, in order to compete, you guys need to spend a billion dollars of your tax money to buy me a stadium. It was just to increase the value of the league and their teams.

• 2:25:50Speaker 00

  Yeah. We need the luxury suites to compete.

• 2:25:51Speaker 06

  The fucking Green Bay Packers have been playing in the same dump for a hundred years. They won four Super Bowls and like an 11 NFL titles. It has nothing to do with the stadium.

• 2:25:59Speaker 00

  No, it's with the Bears. These are them going through with the Bears where it's like, oh, we need a new stadium. No, no, the other owners want you to make a new, new stadium so that the Bears go up, so they go up. That's all.

• 2:26:09Speaker 06

  And you already did.

• 2:26:10Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:26:10Speaker 06

  You already ruined a monument here.

• 2:26:13Speaker 00

  Upgraded, yeah. Upgraded Soldier Field. Yeah.

• 2:26:15Speaker 06

  Yeah. And what, now what's the problem?

• 2:26:17Speaker 00

  They, exactly like what you just said, the, the, every single NFL owner is looking at the caskies. They're like, get yourself a new stadium so that the Bears go from $8 billion to $9 billion. And then the Panthers now go from three to four. You know what I mean? That's all they want. They want everyone to go up. So they're.

• 2:26:34Speaker 06

  Why do we have to pay for it?

• 2:26:35Speaker 00

  It's ridiculous.

• 2:26:37Speaker 06

  Cause we have no lives.

• 2:26:38Speaker 00

  Yeah. Cause, cause guess what?

• 2:26:41Speaker 06

  Cause that's what I always do. I was.

• 2:26:42Speaker 00

  They do have us by the balls.

• 2:26:44Speaker 01

  Too deep on this one.

• 2:26:45Speaker 00

  The, the NFL, we, we.

• 2:26:46Speaker 06

  You know why? Cause they know we're not, what are we going to walk away?

• 2:26:49Speaker 00

  Dude, the NFL, we joke about it.

• 2:26:50Speaker 06

  Start reading?

• 2:26:51Speaker 00

  They're putting games on Wednesdays and Tuesday. And it's like, we'll be like, oh man, like, why are they doing this? They're, they're making Sunday not special. It's like, but guess what? I'm going to watch.

• 2:27:01Speaker 06

  No, I refuse.

• 2:27:02Speaker 00

  You refuse?

• 2:27:03Speaker 06

  No, because the NCAA is doing that.

• 2:27:05Speaker 00

  What do you mean?

• 2:27:06Speaker 06

  Northwestern, Penn State's tonight, Friday night.

• 2:27:08Speaker 00

  New stadium, by the way.

• 2:27:09Speaker 06

  Yeah. Friday night lights.

• 2:27:10Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:27:10Speaker 06

  It's high school football.

• 2:27:11Speaker 00

  They needed that to compete.

• 2:27:12Speaker 06

  I'm not doing that. If I'm going to watch football on Friday, it's going to be some sort of local broadcast of a high school game. I watch college.

• 2:27:18Speaker 00

  You're stronger man than me.

• 2:27:19Speaker 06

  Saturday, I'm watching like, listen, I'm not gonna lie to you. I do, I watch the Sunday NFL. I do watch Monday night football. I grew up with it. Thursday, I'm a little touch and go.

• 2:27:28Speaker 00

  What about the Wednesday before Thanksgiving that they're going to do this year?

• 2:27:32Speaker 06

  Cause I have Thursday off? Yeah. I could probably make an excuse.

• 2:27:35Speaker 00

  Yeah. Okay. There you go. Yeah. You're going to move some things around so you can watch Wednesday night, Thursday and Friday, Thanksgiving.

• 2:27:42Speaker 06

  I'm not saying my opinions are in bedrock here, but I, I'll do what I.

• 2:27:45Speaker 00

  Everything's fluid.

• 2:27:46Speaker 01

  It depends on the matchup.

• 2:27:46Speaker 00

  We remain fluid. Yeah.

• 2:27:48Speaker 06

  Well, the Thursday game, my, my, my, my gambling tip last year was that if it was a.

• 2:27:56Speaker 04

  Thursday game and it was a division rivalry and the spread was north of three and a half. You take the underdog.

• 2:28:02Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:28:02Speaker 04

  Because it's a, you know, it's a simplistic.

• 2:28:05Speaker 00

  Browns last night.

• 2:28:06Speaker 04

  Plan. Yeah.

• 2:28:06Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:28:07Speaker 04

  You just take that and it's, it's always. Oh, did that? Fuck, I should have taken it this week.

• 2:28:11Speaker 00

  Yeah, the Browns won outright. I think they were two and a half underdogs, but yeah.

• 2:28:14Speaker 04

  I hit that like a couple of weeks in a row and I was like, I finally found the system and then I got burned.

• 2:28:20Speaker 00

  Yeah. Oh, I mean, do you know how many times I've found a system?

• 2:28:22Speaker 04

  I know.

• 2:28:24Speaker 00

  Like I did it. I found the system.

• 2:28:26Speaker 04

  You're going up against mathletes and with computers.

• 2:28:29Speaker 01

  Yep. We got a guy that just does weather. He's obsessed with weather. So he, he gives out like one pick at a time. He doesn't bet the entire board. But he's just obsessed with, he'll do like his own forecast and he'll say, okay, there's gonna be more wind.

• 2:28:44Speaker 04

  Cause big meteorology is lying to us?

• 2:28:45Speaker 01

  Yeah, they're in on it. Yeah. He'll be like, he'll be like, yeah, there's gonna be more wind in Pensacola than they're, than they're scheduling right now. Uh, so we gotta take this like division two school to have an under in that game.

• 2:28:57Speaker 04

  What is he? Is he looking like pie reps or something like that?

• 2:28:59Speaker 01

  I don't ask too many questions.

• 2:29:01Speaker 00

  Idea. We just take it.

• 2:29:02Speaker 01

  But it works. He's like nine and one.

• 2:29:04Speaker 00

  No, he's not. He lost last night because then I came in this morning. I was like, what the fuck happened last night?

• 2:29:08Speaker 04

  I was laughing until I heard nine and one.

• 2:29:10Speaker 00

  Exactly. Yeah.

• 2:29:11Speaker 01

  He's good.

• 2:29:13Speaker 00

  Not only is he, he's, he's 10 and two now. Not only is he 10 and two, but.

• 2:29:17Speaker 04

  You can pitch all of these shows to streaming service. A beautiful mind meets meteorology and sports gambling.

• 2:29:23Speaker 00

  He was, he was, uh, he was nine and one when Dave and I found out about him. And we hopped on at nine and, or eight and one. Do you know how hard it is to be eight and one and then have Dave Portnoy and myself take the next pick and actually win? Like that's impossible. That's never happened.

• 2:29:39Speaker 04

  Oh, you won?

• 2:29:39Speaker 00

  We won the next pick. Yeah. He lost last night, but we won the, the next like couple in a row. So yeah, he's special. But it, but last night he said the, the storm self, uh, quickened up in Tulsa. And I was like, you know what? I don't actually want an excuse.

• 2:29:52Speaker 04

  Dude, I still think one of the funniest fucking videos I ever saw was that one where Dave Portnoy was with that guy Eddie? And he was gonna win that bet.

• 2:30:01Speaker 00

  Oh, the blackjack one?

• 2:30:02Speaker 04

  Cause, cause, cause like Dave was like building the tension. I don't know when he goes, he goes, Eddie.

• 2:30:07Speaker 00

  Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You lost it all. You lost it all.

• 2:30:11Speaker 04

  And then the silence of it. And then when he like fucking keeled over and started laughing. But he was still a friend going, I'm sorry, that's a bad beat. That was my favorite. Like that one, that one, and then that shirtless guy batting the horses, doing that snap.

• 2:30:28Speaker 00

  Oh, Elio.

• 2:30:29Speaker 04

  Oh my God.

• 2:30:30Speaker 00

  Oh no, that's not Elio, but Elio has those. But yes, yeah, yeah. I know who you're talking about. The shirtless guy in the.

• 2:30:35Speaker 04

  That one, the top three gambling videos is the Portnoy Eddie one, the gambling guy, and then, then the dude miming the horse.

• 2:30:42Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 2:30:43Speaker 04

  His own ass.

• 2:30:43Speaker 00

  Horse guys are the best.

• 2:30:44Speaker 04

  With the program.

• 2:30:45Speaker 00

  Yeah. The OTB is a long lost place where it's just like, that's where you can really see the guys, you know?

• 2:30:51Speaker 04

  It is just full on analog people. Like they have square TVs in their house, alarm clocks. Like they, they, they got like, you know, landlines, like they just. Everything, everything, everything moved on and they, they had just where they're at.

• 2:31:06Speaker 01

  They're reading magazines. They've got, yeah.

• 2:31:07Speaker 00

  They got the lighter in their car, uh, the cigarette lighter, the little plug in, you know, remember that? They put it in cars.

• 2:31:13Speaker 04

  Oh yeah, no, I, I.

• 2:31:14Speaker 00

  The coils.

• 2:31:16Speaker 04

  Dude, they had one I saw the other day. Uh, I, I, I love old cars and I, I saw they had something that was actually, uh, not only was it an ashtray, it had like a vacuum. So you.

• 2:31:27Speaker 00

  Attached to it?

• 2:31:28Speaker 04

  Well, you would set your cigarette in there and it would, it would suck in the, uh, ashes. So it wouldn't get on you, you know, your suit or whatever.

• 2:31:35Speaker 00

  That's awesome. We have, I, I bought a old, uh, 1994 conversion van and it has a, a vacuum, uh, like in the back attached to it. It's like. This is, this is used to be a premier feature.

• 2:31:47Speaker 04

  Well, new cars, they're, they're pieces of shit and there's surveillance and all they're doing is like, they listening to you. They're like talking. My wife has a car like that. It's just like, I'll be talking to my wife for like 20 minutes and all of a sudden a voice comes on, I'm sorry, I didn't understand that. It's just like, who the fuck is that? What is going on? So I drive, I drive, yeah, I drive only old shit.

• 2:32:06Speaker 00

  Old cars.

• 2:32:07Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 2:32:08Speaker 00

  Um, I, I, I was listening to, uh, something you were talking about, uh, how often are you eating mushrooms now? Or is that just a one time thing?

• 2:32:15Speaker 04

  No, I only, I do mushrooms like once every year and a half.

• 2:32:19Speaker 00

  So is it to like, you're actually using it as a, I'm trying to figure out what's going on in my life, not I'm going to a concert and trying to go to the moon?

• 2:32:28Speaker 04

  Yeah, no, I only, I only did mushrooms. I did mushrooms at a Billy Joel concert and it just was not.

• 2:32:33Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's a, that's an interesting one.

• 2:32:34Speaker 04

  Well, the dude told me it was gonna be like a body high. And, uh, it, it went beyond that. And then it just got to the point of like, I gotta get the fuck out of here. And I turned around and there was like 60,000 like worm people. And I was like, oh my God.

• 2:32:46Speaker 00

  Oh, man.

• 2:32:47Speaker 04

  And it's just like, you fucking asshole. But I mean, I had tripped before, so I was able to kind of like. You know, I, I didn't freak out, but it wasn't a good time. But, uh, no, I, I kind of, uh, I had a breakthrough with like my anger. Like I'm not like. I, I, I can get angry because anger is an emotion, but like I don't bring, you know, 50 years with me anymore. I kind of, uh.

• 2:33:08Speaker 00

  That's awesome.

• 2:33:09Speaker 04

  Well, I figured something out through acting. Um, I would have weird emotions that I would experience that had nothing to do with the scene. And, and, and I, when I finally figured out what it was, was I was, uh, I had walled off most of my emotions. And then, but if I was in a movie and, and I had to play an emotion that I had walled off, I gotta open the vault and shit would come out. So I was like, oh, so I need to kind of keep this door open. And then I took, I had this woman, this breath work massage thing. And then that, that was the thing. That just brought me over. I got all of this anger out, cried out for like 90 minutes, my whole childhood. And then, I don't know.

• 2:33:48Speaker 00

  Damn.

• 2:33:48Speaker 01

  So you're, you're getting a massage and is this related to the, are you taking mushrooms during the massage or completely separate?

• 2:33:53Speaker 04

  No, but I would say I felt like I was tripping at one point on the, on like this, they say the right side's your anger and the left side was your sadness. So the sadness one was I went back to this town that I couldn't remember names of kids, streets or whatever. I was in my head. I was like, well, I was like three and we moved away and that's why I couldn't remember it. And then like I got older, it's like, no, I was eight. I should remember this shit, but a bunch of fucked up shit happened. And all of a sudden dude, it was like I was driving in a car and I went back there.

• 2:34:22Speaker 00

  Damn.

• 2:34:23Speaker 04

  As me, a rescuing little me.

• 2:34:25Speaker 00

  Holy shit.

• 2:34:26Speaker 04

  And not on anything. And dude, I got up off the table and it was just like, I felt like 20 pounds fucking lighter and, uh.

• 2:34:33Speaker 00

  That's crazy.

• 2:34:34Speaker 04

  Your breath. Yeah. But you gotta, the thing is you gotta get someone that it's like anything, like there's a bunch of sports shows. How many good sports shows are there? There's a bunch of, you gotta get somebody and then you also have to be ready. I had kind of bottomed out.

• 2:34:48Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:34:49Speaker 04

  With this every time something little happened, going to the fucking moon with it. And it was, you know, it was a lot on my wife and, you know, and everyone around me. And I just, I just, you know, it was almost like being an alcoholic. And we just like, this isn't fun anymore. I can't drink anymore. I got that place like emotionally. So, um. Yeah, it's kind of amazing.

• 2:35:09Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:35:10Speaker 04

  And then, and then I gotta like. But then I gotta like beat myself up, you know, not beat myself up that it took, took me, you know, it was last year when I was 57, 58 now, but it took me 57 years. And dude, what fucking kills me is all the shit that I thought that I buried. I thought that shit was, I put that mentally out in the middle of the Pacific Ocean. Dude, it was fucking right there. Like, hey, man.

• 2:35:32Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:35:33Speaker 04

  When are you gonna deal with this shit? So.

• 2:35:35Speaker 00

  That's incredible. Yeah. I mean, why would you beat yourself up for having it take so long? The fact that you did it? I would say most people.

• 2:35:43Speaker 04

  Cause that's what you get conditioned to do.

• 2:35:44Speaker 00

  Yeah, I know, but most people never do it. You know what I mean? They never actually try to face that stuff.

• 2:35:49Speaker 04

  Well, you know, it's a good way of looking at it. That's number two. First the AI and now that. Yeah. I like this show.

• 2:35:55Speaker 01

  Did it make you better as an actor?

• 2:35:56Speaker 04

  All right.

• 2:35:57Speaker 01

  Did it make you better as an actor?

• 2:35:58Speaker 00

  Imagine.

• 2:35:59Speaker 04

  Yeah. And I also think, I figured it out on that Facebook thing and then it kind of gave me like a direction to go. And then it just kind of all fell like dominos after like, I don't know, 30 years of going in and out of therapy and failing. Like the whole thing just toppled and like, it was really almost like anticlimactic. Remember like when the Berlin wall finally came down? You're like, oh, that was it?

• 2:36:23Speaker 00

  Oh, the Cold War's over? Okay. Yeah.

• 2:36:25Speaker 04

  That's it. And then, oh, I guess we're all gonna get along? Nope. Right back to something new. Um, yeah. So, um. Yeah, it has been different and it actually it's, it's helped out my standup, like all the myths of standup of.

• 2:36:37Speaker 06

  Like, you know, don't be happy, don't do this. It's all bullshit. It's like, you know, you get to just sort of look at the world now with like a different point of view, which makes it fresh for you. So you'll be happy and like, dude, like last night, some of the shit I was saying, I don't even remember what I was talking about, but I was just like, it was crazy shit, but it was light. And, and back in the day, when I would say crazy shit, if I was in a bad mood, it would come off in a different way. And I would come off stage and I would feel bad. And I would feel like, oh God, like I don't want to be saying this shit. And like, you know, like this, if I was making fun of women, it went from playful to like misogynistic really fast.

• 2:37:20Speaker 06

  Like a lot of my earlier shit, you know, and you know, it was just, you know, it it's, you know, it's just something you gotta go through if, if that's the kind of upbringing you had to, and then you gravitate to other toxic people. You're fucking toxic. It all seems normal. You think you're in the fucking middle and you're like 900 miles that way. All of that shit that's like obvious when you say it out loud. It, it was just sort of like, yeah, I, I, I'm really happy.

• 2:37:48Speaker 00

  That's awesome.

• 2:37:49Speaker 06

  That I was able to get to the other side of that shit.

• 2:37:51Speaker 00

  That's awesome. Um, all right. So everyone, we're one last question. Zach's going to do it. So if you want to put on the headphones.

• 2:37:57Speaker 06

  Oh, Zach's in the booth.

• 2:37:58Speaker 00

  Everyone go see the movie.

• 2:37:59Speaker 06

  This isn't the dwarf, is it? I've been waiting for him to come in for 45 minutes.

• 2:38:04Speaker 00

  We will, I will find Zaz. Zaz is probably somewhere around here right now.

• 2:38:07Speaker 06

  Oh, all right.

• 2:38:08Speaker 00

  Uh, go see the movie, The Social Reckoning. We're going to run this on the day that it comes out. So it's out, it's out when you're listening to this right now.

• 2:38:18Speaker 06

  Yeah. Go out to the movies, man. Get out of the house.

• 2:38:20Speaker 00

  Hell yes. And you'll also, uh, if Drake May throws like four interceptions against the Bills on Sunday, you can also laugh at Bill for that.

• 2:38:28Speaker 06

  Well, I remember three, three, four games in last year, I didn't think we were ever going to go to the Superbowl and then we did.

• 2:38:35Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:38:35Speaker 06

  You know, and it's also like, dude.

• 2:38:36Speaker 00

  We overreact to the beginning of the season every year. Every year we do the same thing.

• 2:38:41Speaker 06

  We had like a 20, 25 year run straight across the board. Six Super Bowls, four World Series, two NBA titles and a Stanley Cup. I'm good. I can deal with a couple of tough games.

• 2:38:52Speaker 00

  The dap ups. That's what Hank said that when he was talking.

• 2:38:55Speaker 06

  We signed A.J. Brown. He immediately went down. You know, we're, we're going through it. Sometimes it happens later in the season. Sometimes it happens in the beginning, but sports writers are inherently quitters. So they project that onto teams like, oh, what are you gonna, is it time to hit the panic button?

• 2:39:11Speaker 00

  Yeah. Well, we do it on this show. We, we say, I think we're smart enough to know that we're doing this because we, we say it out loud. After like week one, we're like, hey, don't overreact to week one, but, um, we're going to do three hours overreacting. So buckle up.

• 2:39:26Speaker 06

  Yeah, but that's funny and it's, it's self deprecating. I can listen to a show like that. But when somebody's actually serious.

• 2:39:32Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:39:33Speaker 06

  If I'm the owner of the Patriots, I am really concerned, blah, blah. And it's like, are, well, you're not the owner.

• 2:39:38Speaker 00

  No, if you ask us if a team's good or not, it's literally just what happened last week. Like the Browns are going to the Superbowl. Cause we watched the game last night. They're the last team to play.

• 2:39:47Speaker 06

  I watched game two of the Rams and then the first half of the Broncos. And I'm like, oh, these guys are clearly the Superbowl favorite. Played with my kids and then two later, days later, I'm like, the Rams lost that game?

• 2:39:58Speaker 00

  Yeah. You never saw it. So it doesn't count. Yeah. All right. Roback question, R H O B A C K dot com promo code take 20% off your first purchase, Q Zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, roback.com promo code take. Go ahead, Zach.

• 2:40:09Speaker 01

  Sir, uh, uh, sir, a quick question. We, we have heard you voice characters in the Grand Theft Auto franchise previously with San Andreas. Are we going to hear you on, uh, GTA six anytime?

• 2:40:19Speaker 06

  Um, I have not gotten a call, but like that was Grand Theft Auto three was the last time I had a PlayStation. And it had so consumed my life that like I, I, I would think about the game when I was walking around, going down to do a spot. So one night, cause somebody else hooked it up. I'm really bad at like hooking those things up. I came home and before I could think of it again, I just unplugged everything, wrapped it up and stuck it in the back of my closet. And I, I've never, I haven't had a home system since then.

• 2:40:48Speaker 00

  Okay. You're like Mike Tomlin with, with Minecraft. Did you see that?

• 2:40:52Speaker 06

  No.

• 2:40:52Speaker 00

  Oh my God. Bill, I actually, it's good that you're not online. Mike Tomlin.

• 2:40:57Speaker 01

  You play Minecraft? Have you, are you familiar with Minecraft?

• 2:41:00Speaker 06

  My kid has the backpack. I know it. You build your city and you're fighting people.

• 2:41:04Speaker 00

  Yeah. So Mike Tomlin, uh, former coach of the Pittsburgh Steelers, you know, 19 years. He is now on NBC.

• 2:41:11Speaker 06

  The owners, they're, they're relationship people.

• 2:41:13Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Big time. So, uh, Mike Tomlin revealed that, so when his kids were young, they got into Minecraft. Mike Tomlin got into Minecraft with them to relate to them, to have a hobby. The kids grew up. Mike Tomlin never grew out of Minecraft. He created, he's been creating a city for 15 years.

• 2:41:33Speaker 06

  Oh my God.

• 2:41:34Speaker 00

  He, he debuted it on YouTube. You can look at right there, the other night. He has a city that Bill, it's like 3,000 hours. This guy has just been building a city quietly.

• 2:41:44Speaker 06

  Block by block.

• 2:41:45Speaker 00

  Every single week, just been sitting down. It's one of the funniest stories. I, it was one of my favorite videos I've ever watched. He's going through each building being like, I got really into interior design here. I really liked the, the, the glass ceilings. Like it's insane, Bill.

• 2:42:02Speaker 06

  Come down to the stress of being a head coach.

• 2:42:04Speaker 00

  Exactly.

• 2:42:05Speaker 06

  I got one for you. The analog version of that.

• 2:42:07Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:42:08Speaker 06

  There's a guy that built all of New York City, building by building.

• 2:42:12Speaker 00

  Oh, I've seen this guy.

• 2:42:13Speaker 06

  And it's, it's in a museum right now.

• 2:42:15Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 2:42:16Speaker 06

  He like built it by, uh, by hand. Like I love all of, all of that. Like this is like,

• 2:42:22Speaker 00

  Look at this. He built the, he built like high rises and he kept on talking. He's like, I really was, you know, thinking, uh, that I wanted to be intentional about how I had my.

• 2:42:31Speaker 06

  Force out small businesses in any part of it. Did he get to that level where it's like that real?

• 2:42:36Speaker 00

  That would be funny if he, if that, cause he kept teasing. He's like, this is the baseball stadium. We're going to do this next week. So he, there's like multiple episodes of this.

• 2:42:43Speaker 01

  Yeah. He, he, he was very conscious about what amenities he would put in his luxury apartments as opposed to the ones that were not luxury apartments.

• 2:42:49Speaker 06

  Only on the, only on the top floors.

• 2:42:51Speaker 01

  High rise looking over the baseball stadium. So he can watch the baseball game.

• 2:42:53Speaker 00

  And we were saying that I would imagine some Steelers fans watch this and be like, you were fucking doing this when we couldn't, you know, we couldn't win a playoff game for the last 10 years, but it's pretty impressive. I'll send you the video.

• 2:43:04Speaker 06

  Did he put a blue bottle next to a mom and cuff, mom and pop coffee place? Dude, that is amazing.

• 2:43:09Speaker 00

  Incredible. So yeah.

• 2:43:12Speaker 06

  I like that he, that this is his city and he, he didn't just slap it together, that he actually knows.

• 2:43:17Speaker 00

  No, he was.

• 2:43:17Speaker 06

  About the whole thing. I have.

• 2:43:18Speaker 00

  Very intentional about it.

• 2:43:20Speaker 01

  Thought about it.

• 2:43:20Speaker 06

  Like, what is, what's the name of this, this?

• 2:43:22Speaker 00

  It's just Mike Tomlin. I'll send you the link after this.

• 2:43:24Speaker 06

  Tomlin, rooftops, penthouses and urban living.

• 2:43:27Speaker 00

  He kept on talking about the urban density of his city and how he wanted to be intentional about the spaces and.

• 2:43:32Speaker 06

  That's a little Frank Lloyd Wright. Am I crazy?

• 2:43:34Speaker 01

  A little bit.

• 2:43:35Speaker 00

  He might be.

• 2:43:36Speaker 01

  Yeah. I, I don't know if he's done with it. If he's still adding on to it.

• 2:43:38Speaker 00

  I think he is. I think it's an ever living thing. He's got Trump Tower.

• 2:43:42Speaker 01

  He said he made a Trump Tower, but he wanted to be very clear that he, he put that up in 2015 before he became president. He was like, this is not an endorsement. This is just a Trump Tower. That's what I'm saying.

• 2:43:52Speaker 06

  I like people who hate Donald Trump and they stand out and they, they like pro, like one time, one of the time, like 2018, I stayed at the Trump hotel. And there was people protesting Donald Trump outside of it. It's like, dude, he's not in here.

• 2:44:02Speaker 00

  Yeah. Is he home? Let us in.

• 2:44:05Speaker 06

  He's a brand and they've bought the brand and they put his name on, he's not here talking about what kind of drapes they're going to put.

• 2:44:14Speaker 00

  Yeah. But it would be funny if like they rang a doorbell and you did come down.

• 2:44:18Speaker 01

  He comes out with a broom and shoves them off.

• 2:44:19Speaker 00

  Complaint?

• 2:44:20Speaker 06

  Well, I didn't vote for him either, but like they were giving us so much shit going in and out of it. We started like trolling him. We just started chanting four more years and then it happened. Oh God.

• 2:44:31Speaker 00

  Oh man. All right. Well, Bill, you're the best. Uh, you, you're tour, you have a never ending tour.

• 2:44:37Speaker 06

  No, I got the kids now. So like I, this is my last like run here.

• 2:44:41Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 2:44:41Speaker 06

  I go to New York, uh, and we have the premiere for the movie that's coming out today on this thing. And then, uh, I come back and I'm off for the rest of the year. And then I got a movie coming up that I'm trying to get your talents in on.

• 2:44:54Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:44:55Speaker 06

  Uh, that that's going to be at the beginning of the year. So, but even that one, I made sure I scheduled it. So I would be around for my daughter's birthday. So like I, I, I just make all, I saw one time Eddie Murphy said that, you know, if you put your kids first, you'll never make a bad decision. So like all I think about is on my deathbed, I'm not going to be thinking like, oh man, I, I pretended to be a cop in that movie. That was awesome. I'm going to be thinking about, I was there for their birthdays. I made him a cake. I taught him how to ride a bike and like, like my daughter just started playing, uh, playing little league baseball and just watching her play shortstop and making a play was just, it was better than anything I've ever done in this business. Oh, it's the best. It's the best. So.

• 2:45:34Speaker 00

  It's hard to do, but it's, it's, you're right. I, uh, I had to pass up Family Feud. We did, Barstool was on Family Feud and it was my daughter's birthday and I was like, can't do it.

• 2:45:41Speaker 06

  You made the right call.

• 2:45:43Speaker 00

  I don't know. Steve Harvey's the man.

• 2:45:45Speaker 01

  I think it turned out okay. We got.

• 2:45:47Speaker 06

  I know he is.

• 2:45:47Speaker 01

  Zero points.

• 2:45:48Speaker 00

  No, I did make the right call.

• 2:45:49Speaker 01

  Barstool scores zero points on Family Feud. All time record.

• 2:45:53Speaker 06

  Dude, but this is, this is when you know you're the dumbest guy is when you're the last person on the Family Feud.

• 2:45:57Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:45:57Speaker 06

  Like, cause there's always, you got three, four smart people in your family. Then you just got that shithead.

• 2:46:02Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:46:02Speaker 06

  And then, and you gotta, they have some dumb answer. And there's always that awkward pause and then they go, good answer. Good answer.

• 2:46:09Speaker 00

  And he also got, he always is wearing the thing that you know, he just bought. Like it's like a purple, uh, button down with a tie that he got from like, you know, Kohl's. And you're just like, yeah, he didn't, he didn't have anything to wear. Yeah.

• 2:46:21Speaker 06

  He put on 20 or 30 pounds since he bought whatever the, whatever he's wearing. Yeah. Well, thank you guys for having me.

• 2:46:26Speaker 00

  You're the best, Bill.

• 2:46:27Speaker 06

  Reckoning.

• 2:46:27Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 2:46:28Speaker 06

  Uh, incredible actors. It was one of my favorite gigs I, I've ever done.

• 2:46:32Speaker 01

  And I think it's a great movie. So go check it out. If you got the time, I'd appreciate it.

• 2:46:36Speaker 00

  Yes, absolutely. Thanks, Bill.

• 2:46:37Speaker 01

  All right. Thanks for having me.

• 2:46:40Speaker 01

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• 2:47:34Speaker 00

  Okay. Uh, what do we got, guys and chicks?

• 2:47:36Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:47:37Speaker 00

  I got a real quick, uh, Tuesday reading for us, Wednesday reading. Uh, this is from John Machota. Uh, Cowboys owner Jerry Jones this morning on W or 1053, the fan sharing one of his greatest memories from his trips to Green Bay. Jerry says, after the game against the Packers, maybe 25 years ago, all my grandchildren were very small, four or five years old, and I had a car full of them. It was so cold. We won and as we left the stadium, we were in a long, big car and I saw this lady headed toward the car. She comes up beside the car running. She was so upset as a Green Bay fan. She was pretty hefty. And she turns around and pulls it all down and just plants it right up against the window.

• 2:48:17Speaker 00

  Everybody inside was in shock and couldn't believe it. And then her skin stuck to the window. It was so cold. When she pulled away, there was just a big print sitting there on the side of that car. There were about 10 or 11 of us in the car and we can still see it today. Love when Jerry just gets going on a story.

• 2:48:33Speaker 01

  It's a great story. Great story.

• 2:48:35Speaker 00

  Also, calling someone pretty hefty is like trying to be nice about it and being like, that's a fat ass. You know what I mean?

• 2:48:43Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:48:43Speaker 00

  It's like saying like.

• 2:48:44Speaker 01

  Well, it's an important part of the story too. You want to know how big the print is a pretty hefty print.

• 2:48:48Speaker 00

  Yeah, but that, that's like in the back of your head, you're, you're, you're slowing yourself down. You'd be like, I don't want to call this person a fat ass. Let me call him pretty hefty. It's like, but pretty hefty.

• 2:48:56Speaker 01

  It's a big gal.

• 2:48:57Speaker 00

  It's fat. It's fat. Very fat. Pretty hefty.

• 2:49:02Speaker 00

  Okay. Ready Hank?

• 2:49:03Speaker 01

  And that is a stain on my Super Bowl window.

• 2:49:08Speaker 00

  Go Hank.

• 2:49:09Speaker 03

  Hey boys, I need your help. I have a crush on the bartender who works in my local sports bar. I go very often, so I don't want to make anything stupid that would make me too embarrassed and ruin my neighborhood bar for me that I love. Do I play the long game? Just go for it. I don't have many sports bars in my area, so it's crucial we think this through.

• 2:49:26Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's a, it's a risky proposition because if you blow it, you're not going to want to go back. You would ruin that bar for yourself. Just get drunk with him one day.

• 2:49:36Speaker 00

  Here, wait, is, there's a girl asking, I, I think what you gotta do.

• 2:49:39Speaker 03

  This is non, non-binary.

• 2:49:42Speaker 00

  Oh, non-binary. I think what you gotta do is, uh, ask another bartender first. Like, hey, has that guy got a boyfriend, girlfriend? What's his deal? Cause if you ask him out and he's like, no, then you're, it's going to be awkward every time. Go through a middleman. Does that make sense? Right?

• 2:50:03Speaker 03

  No, if you're going to the bar and you just go to, go to the bar, talk to him at the bar.

• 2:50:06Speaker 01

  That's what I'm saying.

• 2:50:07Speaker 00

  What'd you say? You want to get a drink sometime? He's just.

• 2:50:09Speaker 03

  Or you're just like, oh my God, I'm so drunk. Or like talk about how you're single, then see if, you know, they talk about them being single.

• 2:50:14Speaker 01

  I think you gotta go at a time when it's not super busy and then just plan on being there for an hour or so. Have a few drinks, get talking with him, ask him to take a shot with you. And if he drops like a story about his girlfriend in the first 10 minutes, that's, that's your cue. Maybe not going to work out.

• 2:50:32Speaker 03

  Does the situation reverse if it's girl, guy?

• 2:50:36Speaker 01

  If the bartender is a girl?

• 2:50:38Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:50:38Speaker 01

  Yeah, then you, then that's different because she gets hit on all day by every guy.

• 2:50:46Speaker 03

  So.

• 2:50:46Speaker 01

  So if you hit on her, chances are she's going to start to tune you out.

• 2:50:50Speaker 03

  Unless.

• 2:50:51Speaker 01

  Unless she likes you. Yeah, that's true. If the roles are reversed, you just get her a job. She's not into you.

• 2:50:56Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah. True. Good point, Zach. Really good point. That's a good ad. Did you, Max, did you make him turn on the mic there?

• 2:51:02Speaker 02

  Yes, he keeps trying to raise his hand and then he was like, I don't want to interrupt. And then there's like a big block in what you guys are saying. So I just screamed at him, go.

• 2:51:10Speaker 00

  You can interrupt.

• 2:51:12Speaker 01

  Yeah, sometimes you guys raise hands. We, we do that. Okay. All the time.

• 2:51:14Speaker 00

  I missed the hand.

• 2:51:15Speaker 02

  But the hand, the hand raising is different.

• 2:51:17Speaker 00

  Yeah, just interrupt.

• 2:51:18Speaker 02

  Everyone else hand raises out of.

• 2:51:21Speaker 00

  Also Zach, you've got to understand.

• 2:51:23Speaker 02

  What I'm looking for.

• 2:51:24Speaker 00

  The, the.

• 2:51:25Speaker 02

  Disrespect. The hand raising is disrespect.

• 2:51:27Speaker 00

  The interruption also is you clicking the thing. Like, once you click, then we're going to be like, oh Zach, what do you think? So you don't have to be like, oh, can I speak? You just click.

• 2:51:36Speaker 01

  He's got to find the riff, that's all.

• 2:51:38Speaker 00

  Yeah, but just, just click.

• 2:51:39Speaker 01

  Okay. Yeah, she doesn't want to fuck you.

• 2:51:43Speaker 00

  Yeah. Hank, you start, or Zach, you start with this next one. Go ahead Hank.

• 2:51:51Speaker 03

  Sup guys? My ex recently added me on her close friend story on Instagram. She broke up with me a few months ago and we haven't communicated since. While we were dating, she didn't have a close friend story that I'm aware of. Do I reach out to her? I feel like if she wants to talk again, she should reach out since she broke up with me.

• 2:52:07Speaker 01

  Zach, she just wants to know that you're keeping her at the front of your mind. It's just like, hey, I just want you to keep thinking about me.

• 2:52:15Speaker 00

  She's playing games.

• 2:52:15Speaker 01

  That's it. Yeah. She just enjoys the fact that it's like, will he engage? Cause then it's, all right, yeah, he's still thinking about me. I'm good.

• 2:52:21Speaker 03

  Just don't view the story and then she'll reach out.

• 2:52:24Speaker 00

  Oh, good point.

• 2:52:27Speaker 03

  She's putting you on the close friend story to, to see who's actually.

• 2:52:31Speaker 00

  Watching.

• 2:52:31Speaker 03

  Seeing it.

• 2:52:32Speaker 01

  She wants to see your name.

• 2:52:33Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:52:33Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm. Don't give her that.

• 2:52:35Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:52:35Speaker 00

  That's such a good point.

• 2:52:38Speaker 01

  Cause when, when she sees the name, she got what she needed from the situation. You're going to think about it all day. Yeah. Can you? And you don't want that. Don't invite that into your life. Can you remove yourself from somebody's close friends?

• 2:52:48Speaker 00

  Yeah. What do you mean?

• 2:52:49Speaker 01

  Can you be like, I don't want to see the green ones anymore?

• 2:52:52Speaker 00

  You could probably block them and then unblock them.

• 2:52:55Speaker 01

  That would be a power move.

• 2:52:56Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:52:56Speaker 02

  You ever get put on a random person's close friend? That's electric.

• 2:53:00Speaker 00

  That's happening to you?

• 2:53:01Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:53:03Speaker 00

  Who?

• 2:53:03Speaker 02

  Um, random people.

• 2:53:04Speaker 00

  That's awesome.

• 2:53:05Speaker 02

  Yeah. Highly recommend.

• 2:53:08Speaker 00

  Damn.

• 2:53:09Speaker 01

  And you're like, should I even really be watching this right now?

• 2:53:11Speaker 02

  Yeah, I'm like, do, do, do you have to like the story? Like.

• 2:53:16Speaker 00

  I have, no, I'm not going to say it.

• 2:53:20Speaker 01

  Say it.

• 2:53:23Speaker 00

  I have Dom like every one of Mikey Betts's, uh, stories. So Mikey Betts doesn't get mad at me.

• 2:53:28Speaker 01

  Will he get mad?

• 2:53:30Speaker 00

  He might now.

• 2:53:32Speaker 01

  But would he get mad if you didn't like him?

• 2:53:33Speaker 02

  Mikey Betts gets mad a lot of the time.

• 2:53:34Speaker 00

  He was just like, you haven't liked one of my stories in a couple of months. And it's like, are you, are you reading, are you seeing it? And so I was like, Dom, just every day, just go through the stories and just like Mikey Betts's.

• 2:53:45Speaker 02

  This is so much worse than just not liking them.

• 2:53:47Speaker 01

  Yeah. It's going to sting.

• 2:53:49Speaker 02

  You're literally paying someone to like his story.

• 2:53:51Speaker 00

  Cause he's, I liked a couple.

• 2:53:52Speaker 01

  Mikey wakes up in the morning and he's like, oh, another day of job security. Big cat liked my shit.

• 2:53:57Speaker 00

  Hold on. I did say he was in Mexico, uh, last week and he was, he was dressed.

• 2:54:02Speaker 03

  As a man. It's, it's, you, it's gotta be a great story to like it.

• 2:54:05Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm. Yeah.

• 2:54:06Speaker 03

  You can't, you can't just be liking other, other guys' stories for fun.

• 2:54:10Speaker 00

  Or just Dom.

• 2:54:12Speaker 01

  Oh, I have, um, speaking of Instagram, I just, I just logged back on and been on in a while. I got a, uh, I got a DM. I don't, I don't know if I can say who it's from. A college basketball player. Played a lot of college basketball.

• 2:54:26Speaker 00

  It's, uh, what's his name? The Kansas guy.

• 2:54:28Speaker 02

  Perry Ellis.

• 2:54:29Speaker 00

  No, no, Kansas, Michigan. What's his name?

• 2:54:32Speaker 01

  I haven't heard that name in years, Matt.

• 2:54:33Speaker 00

  Hunter Dickinson.

• 2:54:34Speaker 01

  I'm not, I'm not going to say a guy that played a lot of college basketball.

• 2:54:37Speaker 02

  Titus?

• 2:54:38Speaker 01

  He says, that's mean memes.

• 2:54:41Speaker 02

  I thought it was college basketball. Yeah.

• 2:54:43Speaker 01

  He says to show this to Max.

• 2:54:45Speaker 00

  It's Hunter. Shout out Hunter.

• 2:54:47Speaker 01

  So he just sent me like, uh, a thing that the Carolina Hurricanes posted. It said, we've won, we've won more games in Philly the last nine days than the Flyers, Eagles and Phillies combined this whole month.

• 2:54:59Speaker 00

  Is that true?

• 2:55:02Speaker 02

  Yeah, Carolina Hurricanes are number one hate, hate list of all time right now.

• 2:55:06Speaker 00

  There's just no way that's true.

• 2:55:08Speaker 02

  Carolina, this, that's part of the reason of the must win this weekend against the Carolina Hurricanes.

• 2:55:13Speaker 00

  Oh, okay.

• 2:55:14Speaker 02

  What the Carolina Hurricanes think that they're doing.

• 2:55:16Speaker 00

  That's insane.

• 2:55:17Speaker 02

  So if we beat the fuck out of the Panthers, it's all the Carolina Hurricanes fault.

• 2:55:22Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm. I like this Max because I also hate the Carolina Hurricanes.

• 2:55:26Speaker 02

  Yeah, fuck them.

• 2:55:27Speaker 00

  That's, uh, thank you Hunter for sending us that because we needed that.

• 2:55:31Speaker 01

  Max is back.

• 2:55:32Speaker 00

  Max is back.

• 2:55:33Speaker 02

  No, I've, I've, I'm, I don't want to.

• 2:55:35Speaker 01

  Big Dom probably saw.

• 2:55:36Speaker 02

  I don't want to give that the respect that it doesn't deserve.

• 2:55:39Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:55:40Speaker 01

  But you, but you just did.

• 2:55:41Speaker 02

  Well, you made me. It's, it's my job to respond. I didn't bring it up.

• 2:55:44Speaker 01

  That's true.

• 2:55:45Speaker 02

  But it's absolutely fucked all of Carolina this weekend.

• 2:55:50Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:55:50Speaker 01

  Look what you did.

• 2:55:51Speaker 00

  Fuck Carolina.

• 2:55:51Speaker 01

  Look what you did, Carolina.

• 2:55:52Speaker 00

  Uh, I found it. I did, I did, uh, Mikey Betts had a cool sombrero when he was in Mexico and I said, damn, put that thing on. That was for me on his story. That was nice. Put that thing on.

• 2:56:04Speaker 02

  So yeah, Viva the stool. When you're clipping the Mikey Betts thing, make sure you had that.

• 2:56:10Speaker 00

  Damn, put that thing on.

• 2:56:11Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:56:12Speaker 00

  I've personally saw him looking awesome and he fucking put that thing on. All right.

• 2:56:18Speaker 03

  Uh, last one, not really guys on chicks, but hey, Dan, Eric, Henry, Chris, Zach and Connor. Every year that goes by, I am stuck wondering why NFL doesn't just adopt college football overtime rules. They care about player safety. This would be the safest option and it would also make the overall fan experience that much better. No one wants to see Harrison Meeves or Tyler space Bass straddled out there in a high scoring game to have a walk off field goal in overtime. Let Josh Allen and Matt Stafford go body blow for body blow and decide a winner that way.

• 2:56:49Speaker 01

  I admittedly, do we know that it's safer? Like is college overtime safer than NFL overtime?

• 2:56:55Speaker 00

  No idea.

• 2:56:56Speaker 01

  I don't know if that's true. It might be, it might very well be true. I don't, I don't hate the idea. I kind of like seeing Meeves have something to do with the game.

• 2:57:03Speaker 00

  Mm hmm.

• 2:57:03Speaker 01

  Uh, but I, I don't hate that idea. I think college overtime is much better than NFL.

• 2:57:07Speaker 00

  Yeah, I, I, I like college and our overtime a lot better as well, but I, I agree. I don't know if it's like, we did see Josh Allen and Matthew Stafford go against each other.

• 2:57:18Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:57:18Speaker 00

  In overtime.

• 2:57:19Speaker 01

  Yeah, they did change the rule to make that happen.

• 2:57:20Speaker 00

  Yeah, like the, I think this person's forgetting that the first possession in overtime was a fumble.

• 2:57:29Speaker 01

  Right.

• 2:57:29Speaker 00

  By the Bills, right? So it's like they were going for it.

• 2:57:32Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's, um, there is something to be said, I think, for having the overtime period look a lot like the regular time period, like a regular, like a fourth quarter looks the same as overtime. Um, you have to put together drives ideally to be able to win the game. But I don't college, college football overtime is just so much better.

• 2:57:50Speaker 00

  What I would say, if, if I were going to change college football overtime a little bit to make it to the NFL, I'd say you, college football overtime, no field goals allowed.

• 2:57:59Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:57:59Speaker 00

  So you just have to go, you have to go for it.

• 2:58:01Speaker 01

  Yeah, I like that.

• 2:58:02Speaker 00

  Try to score.

• 2:58:03Speaker 01

  What are we laughing about in the booth? Booth boys?

• 2:58:07Speaker 02

  We're just laughing.

• 2:58:07Speaker 01

  Chris Connor.

• 2:58:08Speaker 02

  You guys, you guys are two funny guys. No. Meme's is saying where, where we haven't been getting a lot of guys on chicks submissions from actual girls recently. So he's like, I think I'm just going to text Max's wife and just get things that Max says.

• 2:58:23Speaker 00

  Oh, I like that. That's great. That's great. Like, like when he screamed when the Jaguars won.

• 2:58:32Speaker 02

  I didn't say a word.

• 2:58:34Speaker 03

  We could do Delante on Delante.

• 2:58:36Speaker 00

  Delante on Delante.

• 2:58:37Speaker 02

  Yeah, but people text it, text a number.

• 2:58:39Speaker 01

  To the max.

• 2:58:40Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:58:40Speaker 01

  Text them.

• 2:58:41Speaker 00

  Help us out, especially, yeah, for anything when we do FAQs, when we do.

• 2:58:44Speaker 02

  Mainly, mainly guys on chicks.

• 2:58:46Speaker 00

  Guys on chicks. Okay, the other ones are good.

• 2:58:47Speaker 02

  Oh, the other ones are good.

• 2:58:48Speaker 00

  Guys on chicks.

• 2:58:49Speaker 02

  I would say we should just do guys on guys.

• 2:58:51Speaker 01

  That's the entire show.

• 2:58:53Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 2:58:53Speaker 02

  Yeah, but just have guys, you know, maybe different things about their significant others, but the guys will help the guys.

• 2:59:01Speaker 01

  I think if it's.

• 2:59:02Speaker 00

  We can help guys.

• 2:59:03Speaker 01

  Yeah, we could help guys too, but guys on actual chicks.

• 2:59:06Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:59:06Speaker 01

  You want legit chicks.

• 2:59:08Speaker 02

  Guys on guys on chicks.

• 2:59:10Speaker 00

  But we'll help real guys too.

• 2:59:11Speaker 02

  Yeah, guys on guys. As I was saying, guys on guys on chicks.

• 2:59:14Speaker 00

  Next week we'll do guys on guys, help you with the guys with the chicks problems.

• 2:59:19Speaker 02

  But if you're a chick and you're forced to listen to this right now.

• 2:59:22Speaker 00

  What's up?

• 2:59:22Speaker 02

  Text the number.

• 2:59:23Speaker 01

  Hey Shane.

• 2:59:25Speaker 02

  They just like making TikToks about how I, I have to listen to this in the car. Yeah, but if you're forced to listen to this in the car, text the number, why you're being forced to listen to this in the car.

• 2:59:34Speaker 00

  Or when you, when you make the TikTok, just add a question in the caption for next guys on chicks.

• 2:59:40Speaker 02

  Yeah, that'd be good.

• 2:59:41Speaker 00

  We'll just take it from there.

• 2:59:43Speaker 02

  No fart question.

• 2:59:45Speaker 00

  All right. Uh, oh, by the way, I would like to give a special congratulations to our good friend, Tom Fornelli. He texted me last night. He also guesses three on every single episode.

• 2:59:57Speaker 01

  Oh, congrats, Tom.

• 2:59:57Speaker 00

  So Tom also got it. Uh.

• 3:00:00Speaker 02

  Tom Fornelli was also one talking about that Carolina Hurricanes tweet.

• 3:00:04Speaker 00

  He's tweeting directly at you.

• 3:00:06Speaker 02

  Well, that one was directly at me. Yeah, Illinois is having a great season there, Tom.

• 3:00:09Speaker 00

  Oh, there we go. Let's go memes. All right, uh, numbers.

• 3:00:15Speaker 02

  Seven.

• 3:00:17Speaker 00

  I'll go three again.

• 3:00:18Speaker 03

  10.

• 3:00:20Speaker 01

  I'll go 37.

• 3:00:21Speaker 02

  29. Four.

• 3:00:26Speaker 02

  69. I, I hope Shane gets it.

• 3:00:29Speaker 00

  Why?

• 3:00:30Speaker 02

  42. You see the graphic?

• 3:00:33Speaker 00

  What'd you say?

• 3:00:34Speaker 02

  There's like 15 teams that have a win so far in 2016.

• 3:00:37Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 3:00:52Speaker 00

  59. Anyone?

• 3:00:53Speaker 02

  Nah.

• 3:01:26Speaker 00

  66. 66, 66.

• 3:01:30Speaker 01

  What did Colton guess?

• 3:01:31Speaker 02

  69.

• 3:01:32Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 3:01:33Speaker 01

  Happy birthday to friend of the programs, Jared Goff.

• 3:01:36Speaker 00

  Nice.

• 3:01:37Speaker 01

  Happy birthday.

• 3:01:38Speaker 00

  Said today?

• 3:01:38Speaker 01

  Yeah, Wednesday, the 14th.

• 3:01:40Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 3:01:41Speaker 01

  Happy birthday to LaRon Landry. Happy birthday, Ameke Abuka. Happy birthday, Booth Bonzer. Happy birthday. Happy birthday to Usher.

• 3:01:48Speaker 02

  I thought you were saying Meka Okafor.

• 3:01:50Speaker 01

  Happy birthday to Dwight Eisenhower. Happy B day, D day. Happy birthday to Blaine Gabbert. Happy birthday, Ray Ray McLeod. Happy birthday to Michael Lewis. Happy birthday to Oscar Hernandez. Happy birthday, Jim Palmer. And happy, happy birthday to Emerald Legasi. And happy birthday to Nora Morgan.

• 3:02:11Speaker 03

  Happy birthday.

• 3:02:11Speaker 01

  Who's that?

• 3:02:12Speaker 03

  Happy birthday. Oh, my niece.

• 3:02:14Speaker 01

  Happy birthday, Nora.

• 3:02:15Speaker 02

  Damn.

• 3:02:17Speaker 01

  What?

• 3:02:18Speaker 02

  Nothing. Your Lockwood plug. Missed one.

• 3:02:21Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 3:02:22Speaker 01

  That'd be kind of weird if I.

• 3:02:24Speaker 02

  I don't know. You know all Lockwood's birthdays.

• 3:02:26Speaker 01

  I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I didn't look up Hank's niece. That's.

• 3:02:29Speaker 02

  I don't know. He's got a plug, Hank.

• 3:02:30Speaker 01

  You weirdo.

• 3:02:30Speaker 03

  It's a different side of the family.

• 3:02:31Speaker 00

  Different side. Oh, you gotta, you gotta bridge the gap.

• 3:02:34Speaker 01

  You're a weirdo.

• 3:02:34Speaker 02

  You're a weirdo. What about this one?

• 3:02:37Speaker 01

  What?

• 3:02:39Speaker 01

  Happy birthday to what?

• 3:02:42Speaker 01

  The Navy?

• 3:02:44Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah.

• 3:02:44Speaker 01

  Happy birthday to the Navy. Congratulations. No, I can't. They're my rival now. In the American conference. Yeah.

• 3:02:52Speaker 02

  What about planes? They got so many planes.

• 3:02:54Speaker 01

  I like their planes. I separate the art from the artist. Good planes.

• 3:02:59Speaker 00

  It's like, it's like ignition.

• 3:03:02Speaker 02

  So you're in on the planes, out on the pilots?

• 3:03:04Speaker 01

  It's like R. Kelly, like the remix to ignition is awesome. The Cosby show is a great television series. Despite the actions. Okay. Happy birthday to, yeah, the F-18 Hornet. That's a hell of a plane. You guys know that. Love you guys.