NFL Week 7, Fastest 2 Minutes, Giants Big Win, The Vikings Last Of The Unbeatens Plus Brewers Up 2-0 In World Series

NFL Week 7 and we start with Fastest 2 minutes. (00:00:00-00:14:24) We then recap every game from Sunday Steelers 16, Saints 10 (00:14:24-00:27:11) Giants 27, Texans 21 (00:27:11-00:35:31) Falcons 29, Niners 20 (00:35:31-00:47:20) Vikings 16, Colts 10 (00:47:20-00:58:56) Dolphins 28, Jets 25 (00:58:56-01:10:17) Browns 27, Titans 24 (01:10:17-01:18:28) Bucs 43, Panthers 13 (01:18:28-01:26:29) Bengals 35, Ravens 13 (01:26:29-01:39:13) Broncos 30, Cardinals 16 (01:39:13-01:46:59) Lions 20, Packers 17 (01:46:59-01:58:26) Rams 35, Raiders 21 (01:58:26-02:09:54) We then talk World Series and Who's back of the week. You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or Netflix. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/pardon-my-take https://barstool.link/pardon-my-take

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  Welcome to Pardon My Take presented by DraftKings. The crown is yours. Today is Monday, October 26th, week seven.

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  Yeah, there we go. Hey, some spread. We, we, we start in gay Paris where according to current conditions in France, both teams agreed no fireworks allowed for this one. There was a lot of defense in this one. And in a touching tribute to one night in Paris, Pat Rick Solomon Queen showed off his good D and a big sack, helping the over the Hilton Aaron Rodgers and a stagnant Pittsburgh offense. Darnell George Washington, a true ally to the French, let the little tiny Parisians asking, how do they make someone so big? He gave them their answer. A diet of sugar and carbs as they swallowed up all the Kool-Aid

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  McKinstry on the field for a big body touchdown. As for the Saints, Tyler Blevins shook, tried his best to drop in for a win, but now people are asking if Kellen Moore will survive another fortnight at the helm. Steelers 16, Saints 10.

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  We go down to Tennessee where Todd Monkey has Cleveland fans going bananas as there's an outbreak of enthusiasm and are looking to sit on top of the canopy of the AFC North. The Titans came out to a lead in the first half behind Tony Soprano Pollard, who was breathing really heavily after scoring three touchdowns and developing nice chemistry with Cordell Tate. But a baby with a tailor isn't the only Casey conception Cleveland fans are rooting for as he added 129 yards and Quinn John, judge can see everything, spent a lot of time in his opponent's house, giving people who think they're frauds a lot to think about.

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  Cleveland 27, the Titans 24. We now go to the AFC East where memes was with the Jets.

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  In New Jersey, don't tell Miami that they're 0-5 as Flash Ollie Gordon and cousin Greg Dulcich were proving that why they should be part of the Dolphins' succession plan. Malik, what you talking about Willis found Caleb Presley Douglas, who said, what do you say to people who say who can't tackle? You go 63 to the house. As for the Jets, Bray Lynn Allen was getting there and Omar, you got it back. Get two, each had over 100 yards. Geno Smith connected with tight end Mason James Taylor for two touchdowns as the Jets have gone to Carolina in their minds. As for Aaron Glenn, if he was in charge of flying the planes during 9/11, he would have missed the towers. Dolphins 28, Jets 25.

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  Thanks memes. We now go to the AFC North with Hank in Baltimore. In Baltimore. Z. Klinsch. Okay, let me start again. No, you got this Hank. Z. Klinsch. Chowder Flowers had a super touchdown run after catching a pass from Snoo.

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  The Ravens made the lead 13-0 after two first half field goals from Tyler Snoo. In the third quarter, the Bengals got on the board with a touchdown pass from Joey to Pete Mike Kasecki. T. Riggins said, here's to good friends, believe in large and Cincinnati after giving the Bengals a one point lead. Sam J. P. Ryan beeline just paid her to add to the lead and Jamar, Jamar, Jamar. Chase gave the Bengals a go ahead touchdown in the fourth quarter. Bengals win 35-13. Thanks Hank. Down to Atlanta where the previously Brock solid Niners found themselves

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  stuck between a Brock in a hard place as Purdy was playing like he had Brocks in his head and the undefeated season was officially on the Brocks. Okay, that's enough. As the game really was about watching PNP, I'm talking Peddix finding pits for a score and then doubled down with a missile to Drake. London's called into a great touchdown as the Falcons were up for the clash on Sunday. The Falcons defense went into psycho mode as they checked Brock Purdy into the Jesse Bates motel with an interception and then Kendall Daniels threw them into the Lions then to end the perfect season. To the windows, to the wall, to the sweat drips off my balls, till all these bitches crawl, till all Stefanski, motherfuckers,

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  till all Stefanski, goddamn. Falcons 29, Niners 20. We go to Minnesota where Kevin Rosie O'Connell is in a league of his own, building a scrappy offense of unlikely athletes and must be feeling glad that there's no Kyler Ring in baseball because he's still a quarterback, folks, not an MLB player just yet. Indiana Jones kept having Colts fans feel like they got their heart stripped out of their chest in the tipple of poon and showed to them as Coach Steichen ought to be ashamed of himself for losing another pathetic game. And as my good friend TJ Hawk Tuinson put it down their throat to end the football game, 16-13.

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  All right, we now go to Zach who is actually sick in his house, but he still did a boomer. Zach.

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  In Carolina, Buckies Irving shouts, risking on the board as he rumbles into the end zone, sending Panthers defenders scattering like a bunch of beaver nuggets that just fell off the truck. Shortly after, Bryce Lowly Young drops back way too messy. The ball is out and then it's recovered way too fucking clean by Kalaja. You can't see me, who five knuckle shuffles 32 yards for a defensive score, causing the Panthers crowd to STFU. Also in the second quarter, Bryce live fast die young drops back like a total bad girl and does it well, throwing deep to Darren Paul Waller. He's the people champ. He's something like a baller, the candy pain dripping off that old school Impala as he floors it 50

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  yards before parking it right in the end zone next to Big Bang Hank and Poppy Joe. And if you're curious, yes, he had that trunk bumping like some chicken pox. Lastly in the game, Baker, Baker, he's our man. If he can't pass it, nobody can. Rips one short to the Tasmanian Devil Johnson, who tornadoes into the end zone looking for Wabbit, adding to the absolute Looney Tunes score of a game. Tampa 43, Carolina 13.

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  Thanks Zach. He's on the IR. Make sure you get your flu shots. Get better soon Zach.

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  We now head to the afternoon and out west to Max in Arizona.

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  We head over to Glendale where there was a field goal fest to start the game, but Bo Nix showed real heart by turning on the Brunson burner and going to towns on the Cardinals' defense with a 62 yard touchdown, followed by RJ Steve Harvey asking you, asking, name a way to cr- sorry, sorry.

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  Come on Max.

• 10:14Speaker 04

  Name a way to crush a defensive soul to start the second half.

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  52 yard touchdown?

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  It was a tough day.

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  For the Cardinals fans, but it didn't stop them from praying. Dear 246 pound newborn infant Trey McBreezes. Don't even know a word yet, just a little infant, so cuddly, but still omnipotent. We just thank you for all the touchdowns you caught and the 472 yards you have accrued over this season. Amen. Broncos 30, Cardinals 16.

• 10:51Speaker 00

  Thanks Max. Some good, uh, some good special effects. Good special effects.

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  Thanks, thanks.

• 10:55Speaker 00

  Max's favorite, favorite game show, family food.

• 10:58Speaker 02

  No, it's actually Family Feud.

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  Oh, my mistake. Yeah. Uh, in Detroit, where the Packers face the Lions and all the talk this week was whether or not the Lions tight end would be in the outhouse after Sam Laporta potty went on a dumb national sports podcast talking about his contract. Jordan Love on the spectrum was making no look throws and avoiding eye contact early as he was able to find Tucker Minecraft in the end zone, proving he's not just a blocking tight enderman. The game had an up and down field with very little scoring as Amon Ra, St. Antonio Brown went fucking nuts for over 150 yards. The Packers took a 14, 10 second half lead as fell and Josh Jacobs went into the end zone. Wait, wait, I read that wrong.

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  The Packers took a 14 to 10 second half lead as Josh Jacobs fell into the end zone for a score. Sorry about that. But it wasn't enough as Jared went golf the clock and ordered two shots of JMo as Williams scored twice on the way to a Lions win. Remember kids, smack is whack. Lions 20, Packers 17.

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  Standing on the corner, Jameis Winston and Hope Okun, such a fine sight to see. It's a nine, my lord, filling up the scoreboard. He's doubled into 18. Come on Houston, your defense loosened. And the Stroud boys down real bad. They're disillusioned.

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  Sunday night football. The Seahawks are up 10, 13 to three. And we had a week seven, boys.

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  We did.

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  We have a big picture. We finally got the Dolphins a win. So there are no longer any winless team. Oh, wait. No, the Chargers are on a bye. So they, they, they didn't win. Uh, they're, they're the last winless team, which is something that if you said in August, you'd be like, that's the craziest thing I've ever.

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  Could have made some good money on that. I, I was wondering why today kind of felt better.

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  Yeah.

• 13:51Speaker 05

  Like just in a, in a overall better mood watching football. One, it's because the commanders weren't playing, so I didn't have to worry about that. Two, it's because I didn't have to watch the Chargers because they are depressing, depressing football.

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  Yeah. The afternoon window Chargers. Hey, let's watch Justin Herbert get sacked a bunch and throw stupid picks. Didn't have to happen.

• 14:09Speaker 05

  I can deal with the Cardinals.

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  Yeah.

• 14:10Speaker 05

  Like the Cardinals, that as depressing as they can be sometimes, I can deal with it.

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  Jacoby plays.

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  Yeah.

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  He plays hard.

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  The Chargers, they were actually making America's Sundays worse.

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  Also, this is totally unrelated, but Zach is out sick and Shane is sitting in Zach's seat today. Uh, so that's why we might've started with the Chargers, but they were on a bye.

• 14:28Speaker 05

  We were gonna start that way anyways.

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  We always were gonna start with.

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  Didn't lose.

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  Didn't lose. Didn't lose. Uh, yeah. So big picture. We have the, both the North divisions, uh, are still all teams above 500, which that could have been in jeopardy because we had some game, you know, the, the Lions play were three and two going into this week, played the Packers. The Bengals were three and two, played the Ravens. Both North divisions all over 500 and just when you think maybe the NFC South is going to be a respectable place to play football, uh, the Panthers just shit down their leg. The Falcons had a nice win, but the Panthers, uh, now, now every single team in the NFC South is 500 or worse.

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  And the Saints look bad too.

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  Yeah. Yeah. So let's start there.

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  In Paris, Steelers 16, Saints 10. Hank, you're locked in.

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  Wee wee.

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  This was, uh, I actually, during this game, I, I tweeted out this thought. I don't know if you guys had a similar thought. This game felt like it was being played in slow motion and it was because there was just check downs galore. Uh, also it was a very weird game because team, both teams weren't scoring, but they were going on insanely long drives. There was eight drives of 11 plus plays.

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  Yeah.

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  There were only 13 total possessions in the game. The Saints had the ball six times.

• 15:51Speaker 05

  It felt so long because nobody was running the football. So the clock never ticked.

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  Yeah.

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  Uh, the, the leading rushers for this game, leading rusher was Aaron Rodgers. He had eight yards.

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  Yep.

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  Second leading rusher was Tyler Shuck.

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  Yep.

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  He had seven yards.

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  Yep.

• 16:05Speaker 05

  So that's, that's the kind of game that we're looking at. Um, it's a, it did drag on for a very long time. I'll say this, uh, the national anthem was pretty cool.

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  Yeah.

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  I liked that. The like jazzy New Orleans style national anthem that they did. That was fun.

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  Did you like that Hank?

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  Wee wee.

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  Yeah.

• 16:20Speaker 05

  And I think the Steelers are leaning into the, I don't know that they've had really an identity. Their identity has been their offense isn't really as bad as it has been.

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  Yeah.

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  Um, their identity now is I think Mike McCarthy is saying, we're going to just be bigger than everybody else.

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  Well, yeah. Darnell Washington, that was, I think I, I saw someone, uh, tweeted, I'm sorry that I'm not getting their exact, uh, handle because I don't have it. I didn't bookmark it, but he basically was like, this is your uncle, uh, uh, you know, on Thanksgiving scoring over your eight, eight year old like nephew.

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  Well, they also.

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  That was Darnell, Darnell Washington over Kool-Aid McKinstry where he just big bodied the fuck out of him.

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  Just ripped it out of his hands. Just, just towered over him. And then also the Steelers had the, the jumbo tight end formation 12 times today where they put an offensive lineman in.

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  Yeah.

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  As tight end. And so they're just, they're just going to lean on you. They're just going to say, we have a, we have an old quarterback. We're going to protect him as best we can. And he's going to call the plays and, uh, that's going to be our offense. And, and their defense is really good. TJ Watt is just like an insane person when he gets close to the quarterback. Somehow his hands.

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  Sniffs the ball out.

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  Always find the ball. Um, so yeah, their, their defense is good and they're just going to try to be bigger than you.

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  Well, and also it's Jalen Warren. Jalen Warren is the one thing that if you're a Steelers fan, this is what's different. His, his, uh, pop, I, I know he's obviously been on the team, but this year he has been special. That was his third time with over a hundred yards rushing, his fourth time this season with over 125 yards from scrimmage. He is the, the engine of this offense and the Steelers are now five and two. They're five and two. I don't, I still don't know if they're, uh, all, they're good ish. Someone was, was asking me this morning if they were, uh, you know, our, our famous debate, are they a bad, good team or a good, bad team? I think they're definitely, I think they're a medium good team.

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  They're, I think.

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  Bad, good.

• 18:11Speaker 00

  Yeah. So they're a good team, you're saying?

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  They're a bad, good team.

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  Yeah. So they're a good team.

• 18:15Speaker 05

  Yeah.

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  Yeah. They're in the bad category of good teams.

• 18:18Speaker 06

  Yeah.

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  Not in the, yeah.

• 18:21Speaker 06

  It's the same as it's always been with them.

• 18:23Speaker 00

  No, there's, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

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  I think every year we've done this show, it's the same.

• 18:28Speaker 05

  No, but they, they have made the playoffs in the past as a good, bad.

• 18:32Speaker 00

  Yes. No, Russell Wilson Steelers were definitely a good, bad team.

• 18:35Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 18:35Speaker 00

  That was a bad football team that had a good defense and could win nine games.

• 18:41Speaker 05

  This is a bad, good team that's trending towards being a, a not bad, good team.

• 18:46Speaker 00

  Yeah. That's why I'm saying they're medium, they're a medium good team.

• 18:48Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 18:49Speaker 00

  They're not even a bad, good team.

• 18:50Speaker 05

  And I think I misspoke earlier. Obviously Aaron Rodgers, he would have led the Saints in rushing today.

• 18:54Speaker 06

  I don't think they'll ever be a good, good team.

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  I said they're medium good.

• 18:57Speaker 05

  They.

• 18:58Speaker 06

  No, but PFT, I can see it in PFT's face.

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  Well, he's ready to say they're going to win a playoff game this year.

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  I said, I said they, they're trending towards maybe medium, not bad, good.

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  No, I think they're medium good right now. They're five and two.

• 19:10Speaker 06

  No, no, they're bad, good.

• 19:11Speaker 00

  They're five and two. Like that's not, you can't winning, being five and two is, doesn't happen by accident.

• 19:16Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 19:17Speaker 05

  I think.

• 19:17Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 19:18Speaker 05

  So in other words, they're an, they're an average, above average team.

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  Browns might be.

• 19:22Speaker 06

  Good, bad?

• 19:23Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 19:23Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 19:24Speaker 00

  I don't know. We'll get to the Browns. They're fun. The Browns are actually fun, but they're, every game is just the exact same script. And I, I actually.

• 19:32Speaker 05

  So is the Steelers.

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  Yeah, I know. But the Steelers, the Steelers feel like it can last a little bit.

• 19:39Speaker 05

  Wrong. I think, I think the Steelers scripts go a little bit different sometimes. Like in the last couple of weeks, Jalen Warren has been really, really good.

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  Mm-hmm.

• 19:46Speaker 05

  Like, like a legitimately top 10 running back in the NFL.

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  So I think they are able to do some things. With the whole dynamic between Aaron Rodgers and Mike McCarthy has created kind of a funny awkward situation where after the game, sometimes Mike McCarthy like subtly rips the play calling, which is pretty funny because he's technically calling plays.

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  Yeah.

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  But he'll be like, yeah, you know, I think it's talking about like on third down or something. He's like, that's not where we want to be clearly with that percentage. No doubt about it. We want to take control of the clock. They do a really good job in New Orleans, but we want to, we want to score touchdowns down there. And that's something that we have to work on. So he's like, he's kind of taking shots at his own play calling, which is really actually Aaron Rodgers play calling.

• 20:30Speaker 00

  Right. They're, they're in, they're in like a frenemy sub tweet off at all times.

• 20:35Speaker 05

  But it's like an old married couple that deep down they love each other.

• 20:38Speaker 00

  Yeah, they're just always talking about each other.

• 20:39Speaker 05

  Yeah, this is just how they're gonna, this is how they show it.

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  It's actually a rare case of double rent free. They're, they both live rent free in the other one's head.

• 20:48Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 20:48Speaker 00

  Did you see Hank, that Aaron Rodgers, did you see what he said after the game about the international games? Cause you.

• 20:55Speaker 06

  I did not. I saw they dress up as the Peaky fucking blinders.

• 20:58Speaker 00

  Yeah, that was cool.

• 20:59Speaker 06

  In, in Paris.

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  I liked that. That also means that I, I, I think in, in consuming all of Aaron Rodgers' career pretty intimately, when Aaron Rodgers starts doing dress up, he feels like they're a medium good team. Like he, he has a little swagger when he starts doing the dress up stuff. Remember when he dressed like, you know, an all denim or a cowboy? He gets a little, he gets a little cheeky with it.

• 21:21Speaker 05

  He had also one of the funniest, uh, one of the funniest hard counts towards the end of this game when he got up to the line.

• 21:26Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 21:26Speaker 05

  And, uh, he didn't buckle his chin strap at all. He tried to pull the hard count on. And obviously nobody jumped on it. I, I do want to see him run that play without the chin strap on at all.

• 21:36Speaker 00

  Yeah, now he can.

• 21:36Speaker 05

  As a next one.

• 21:37Speaker 00

  Yeah, now he can get them. And, and he did have that, like that was an impressive run for a guy of his age.

• 21:42Speaker 05

  It was very impressive. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that, that won them the game right there.

• 21:45Speaker 00

  Yeah. But anyway, Hank, Aaron Rodgers after the game said that, uh, the league a few years ago, before we went to 17 games, there was talk about having an international week where every single game was played international for a week.

• 22:00Speaker 06

  That would be awesome. Then we would go spring break.

• 22:04Speaker 00

  Well, they would be played in different places, locations, but, uh, it was essentially the idea was everyone would go abroad and then there would be an extra bye week. And then he's like, the owners got greedy. They wanted a 17th game without giving up an extra bye week. So that's why we didn't have it. But it was, it's, it sounds like it was kind of tossed around to do my idea of a universal buy where it's just one week right before Christmas. So everyone can do their Christmas shopping, maybe give it to college football playoffs. Now that we have 24 teams, just one week where everyone gets a double bye, get rested and have good football down the stretch.

• 22:36Speaker 05

  How do you think that would work out if we're trying to do an international week? There aren't enough, enough international locations, right?

• 22:41Speaker 00

  No, he, he, well, yeah, there are now.

• 22:44Speaker 05

  So there's, there's Germany, there's France, there's Spain, there's, uh, two stadiums in England.

• 22:50Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 22:51Speaker 05

  There's Ireland. So now we're at six.

• 22:53Speaker 00

  Brazil.

• 22:54Speaker 05

  Brazil, Mexico City.

• 22:55Speaker 00

  There's two in Mexico, I think.

• 22:57Speaker 05

  Australia.

• 22:58Speaker 00

  Canada, we could easily do.

• 22:59Speaker 05

  We could easily do, yeah, Toronto.

• 23:01Speaker 00

  So that's, and he was talking like Abu Dhabi and stuff. But yeah, you could do it. I mean, you could do double games in, in a couple of the, you know, Germany, you didn't say Germany, like that's, they could do it.

• 23:12Speaker 05

  Maybe, maybe there's 16. It'd be awesome if you drew the candidate straw though.

• 23:17Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 23:17Speaker 05

  That'd be perfect.

• 23:18Speaker 00

  Be so sick.

• 23:18Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 23:19Speaker 00

  Um, yeah, no, he said, he was like, and then maybe another South American country. So Hank, you were very close.

• 23:24Speaker 05

  It'd be awesome.

• 23:25Speaker 00

  As for the Saints, uh, Tyler Shuck played well. He just had that one back breaking interception, but he had, again, PFT said at the beginning, there was his, his, uh, running backs, 14 carries for 11 yards.

• 23:37Speaker 05

  They could not run the football to save their lives. So yeah, it was, uh, Kendra Miller, six yards. Kamara had five yards rushing.

• 23:45Speaker 00

  So he had to just pass. I think he went 30 for 38. He played well. It was just that one interception, which the Steelers do do. They, they just find a way to turn the ball over on you and like in back breaking ways. But overall, I didn't think like Shuck played bad. He just is in a spot at this point where it's like, you have no running game. And they just, the Saints just live to, to go down in games. They just don't, they, I've never seen the Saints jump on a team.

• 24:09Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 24:10Speaker 00

  And I like Kellen Moore a lot as a guy, you know, famously Hank farted right in front of him. At some point, not never taking a lead early in a game has to be a conversation like what's happening with, cause that, that does feel like preparation, how you get ready for a game. That, that all goes into it, right?

• 24:28Speaker 05

  It's a big part of it. Yeah. How you play, uh, off the crack, not just in the second half. That was a great pick by the way, by Peyton Wilson. Like, like a really good job for a linebacker. That's what, yeah. That sometimes when you have quarterbacks like that, you have to take the good with the bad. And that means that, that linebackers are going to catch it too.

• 24:43Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 24:43Speaker 05

  Um, I think, I was thinking about the, the Hank fart thing over the weekend because obviously the, the Hank doll sold really, really well. I believe it's sold out right now.

• 24:52Speaker 00

  Yeah, I think we sold like.

• 24:53Speaker 06

  Sold out.

• 24:54Speaker 05

  Sold out.

• 24:54Speaker 00

  Shout out all the AWLs. I think we sold like over 2,000 of them.

• 24:57Speaker 06

  2,500.

• 24:58Speaker 00

  2,500. Just will, hopefully maybe Christmas time, something, maybe we'll, we'll come up.

• 25:02Speaker 05

  And Blake's in love with it. Like every dog, every dog is going to love this thing. It's, it's a fantastic little toy. But I was thinking about what led up to the creation of the Hank doll and, um,

• 25:11Speaker 00

  The Pelicans facility?

• 25:12Speaker 05

  Yeah. The fact that Hank felt comfortable enough to fart in Kellen Moore's presence, I think was probably maybe the first sign that maybe Kellen Moore, maybe not going to be a, an outstanding leader of men. Like do you think that Hank would have done that in front of Dan Campbell?

• 25:28Speaker 00

  No.

• 25:28Speaker 05

  Absolutely not.

• 25:29Speaker 00

  No. He would have swallowed his fart. It would have come out of his eyes.

• 25:33Speaker 05

  Would Hank have done that in front of Big Dom? No.

• 25:35Speaker 00

  No.

• 25:35Speaker 05

  Absolutely not.

• 25:36Speaker 00

  Absolutely not, Hank. You would have?

• 25:39Speaker 06

  Why would we be interviewing Big Dom?

• 25:41Speaker 00

  We'd love to interview Big Dom. We'd love to interview Big Dom. Don't, don't touch the mic like that. We'd love to interview Big Dom.

• 25:49Speaker 05

  I hate Hank. But think about it, like if we're interviewing Todd Bowles, I could see Hank farting.

• 25:55Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 25:55Speaker 05

  I could see Hank throwing up in front of Todd Bowles and not leaving the room.

• 25:58Speaker 00

  Yeah. It's a sign of disrespect.

• 25:59Speaker 05

  Yeah. That should have been clue number one.

• 26:02Speaker 06

  It wasn't.

• 26:02Speaker 00

  Also are, well, yeah, it was just air out of your, your, your stomach and it's a Pelicans facility. Unfortunately, our conspiracy theory that they're making the international games fun and overshit lasted one week. This was a brutal game. This was a butt cheeks game. It was, it was brutal to watch. Just again, 13 total possessions. The Saints had the ball six times, six times. That's insane.

• 26:28Speaker 05

  Big miss on the 52 yard field goal from Daniel Carlson too.

• 26:32Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 26:32Speaker 05

  Uh, that probably, uh, you know, that might've been one of the big swinging points in the game where it felt like the Steelers could put it away. Uh, and then that's the one thing that, that Moore said that he is thinking about changing after the game. So I think it's probably going to come down to an owner asking Kellen Moore, will you fire your assistants?

• 26:49Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 26:50Speaker 05

  And I don't, Kellen Moore might be the kind of guy that says, no, I'm not going to fire my assistants. And then he will get fired. Or he might be like, this might be the first step where he's like, I am holding people accountable. I, I cut the kicker after this game.

• 27:02Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 27:02Speaker 05

  So I'm saying I'm not doing anything.

• 27:03Speaker 00

  They're, they're also on owner watch with the Colts where the owner has come out and said that she's upset.

• 27:08Speaker 05

  Right.

• 27:09Speaker 00

  And, and doesn't like what's going on. So that always puts a little more pressure on it. Uh, okay. Next game, back to the, the regular slate. Uh, by the way, no international games this upcoming weekend. That's nice.

• 27:22Speaker 05

  Yeah, we get a week off from it.

• 27:24Speaker 00

  Get a break. We do have hoops.

• 27:26Speaker 06

  Yeah. I was going to say no international football games.

• 27:27Speaker 00

  Yeah. We have Nova, Notre Dame, which Max keeps reminding us about.

• 27:30Speaker 06

  Yeah. College basketball season kickoff.

• 27:32Speaker 00

  Excited.

• 27:33Speaker 06

  Pope.

• 27:34Speaker 00

  Uh, all right. Giants 27.

• 27:36Speaker 05

  Who's playing in Germany?

• 27:37Speaker 00

  Um, is that Lions Patriots? I believe.

• 27:40Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 27:41Speaker 05

  I know it's the Patriots. Yeah.

• 27:43Speaker 06

  It's Lions Patriots.

• 27:44Speaker 00

  In Munich?

• 27:44Speaker 06

  Yes.

• 27:45Speaker 05

  Yeah, that'll be fun. Are you going Hank?

• 27:47Speaker 06

  Dah, no. I didn't even go in Chicago. Why would I go to Germany?

• 27:51Speaker 00

  That'd be funny. If you went to Germany, Oktoberfest. Cause I don't think it's, no.

• 27:57Speaker 06

  Oktoberfest is like September. I gotta, yeah.

• 28:01Speaker 00

  Okay. We have, uh, Giants 27, Texans 21. This was the big shocker of the day. Hank, you called this.

• 28:10Speaker 06

  I did.

• 28:10Speaker 00

  You bet the Giants.

• 28:11Speaker 06

  I did.

• 28:12Speaker 00

  Congratulations.

• 28:13Speaker 06

  Thank you.

• 28:14Speaker 00

  Uh, J.J. McCarthy and the Giants defense. That's, that was the big, we'll get to the Texans, but J.J. McCarthy, he was letting it rip. He was absolutely no, no concern whatsoever. Just throwing it deep. Malik neighbors is a bona fide, bona fide number one in the league. I think, who, who do we talk to? Oh, it's Pete Prisco. When he's always like, how many actual number ones are there? And he's got a fair point that there's, you can have a number one on your depth chart, but that doesn't make them a true number one. I think Malik neighbors is a true number one. He is, he had seven catches for 111

• 28:53Speaker 00

  yards. The last four weeks, he has 36 catches for 509 yards. And J.J. McCarthy is just like, fuck it. He's down there somewhere. Throw it to him.

• 29:02Speaker 05

  And JJ looked good. JJ's, he, he was hitting throws outside the numbers. He was firing lasers. It was also the Cam Scataboo game.

• 29:10Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 29:10Speaker 05

  Cam Scataboo's back.

• 29:11Speaker 00

  He ran him, he ran his way out of the dog.

• 29:13Speaker 05

  He did. He did. That's the only way he, I guess that's how you get out of the dog house is early on in the game. Did you see when he got flagged for unnecessary roughness?

• 29:20Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 29:21Speaker 05

  As he was carrying the football.

• 29:22Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 29:22Speaker 05

  Because he lowered his head going through the hole and I think it was a linebacker or it was a safety, I think that he just, he lowered the crown and just ran his ass over. And, uh, yeah, got flagged on that. I think, I think Harbaugh liked that.

• 29:33Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 29:34Speaker 05

  So Harbaugh was like, okay, it's going to be that kind of game. He, uh, ran 17 times, 124 yards, a touchdown. He ran out of the dog house and.

• 29:41Speaker 00

  The big run in OT, which basically sealed that, I mean, Devon Singletary ran into the end zone.

• 29:45Speaker 05

  It was, it was the entire running back room that had, that had a good game today. And, um, as long as I've watched the Giants, this goes back to the, uh, mid nineties when I can remember watching the Giants for the first time. Even when they're good, they're not fun.

• 29:59Speaker 00

  Mm hmm.

• 30:00Speaker 05

  This is a fun team. The Giants are fun, good.

• 30:04Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 30:04Speaker 05

  And I do think that they are a good team. Like this should prove it to anybody that thought maybe the Giants are kind of fluky. Uh, they'll like come back to earth. I think the Giants are just a fun, good team.

• 30:14Speaker 00

  I.

• 30:15Speaker 05

  And it's weird being, seeing those colors be so like kind of flashy to an extent.

• 30:19Speaker 00

  Yeah. And I, I'm not, I'm not, I mean, Jameis did score a touchdown. He also had a very funny, uh, fully mic'd up. I don't know how he just got fully mic'd up on that one play when he said, get ready, get set, hut one, hut two, go.

• 30:31Speaker 05

  Yep.

• 30:31Speaker 00

  Uh, I think Jameis might've gotten into J J McCarthy's year. Just like, dude, fuck it. You're nine. Not actually, cause likely is, but you were nine.

• 30:40Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 30:41Speaker 00

  And now you're 18. Throw it. Just chuck it.

• 30:45Speaker 04

  If the Giants win one more game, likely just gotta give him the number.

• 30:49Speaker 00

  Yeah, he does.

• 30:51Speaker 04

  He's, he's, he's earned it. He's earned, it's, it's, it's bullshit seeing him wear 18. He's gotta be wearing nine.

• 30:57Speaker 05

  I don't, I don't know that you make a switch.

• 31:00Speaker 04

  Nah, it's nine.

• 31:01Speaker 05

  I don't know that you can make a switch. You can be nine and wear 18. That's where, that's where you're fucked up, Max. It's just, it's just a costume. It doesn't matter. Like, deep down, the guy that was playing today, that was nine.

• 31:12Speaker 00

  Mm hmm.

• 31:12Speaker 05

  It doesn't matter that he's wearing 18. He could be wearing a ref's jersey. He could be shirtless playing, shirtless for skins on Thanksgiving. It doesn't matter. That was nine that we saw today. Doesn't matter. It actually, it speaks more highly of him that he doesn't need the number to become nine.

• 31:25Speaker 00

  But he was like really chucking it, which he didn't do, he didn't have to do in college. He didn't do it, you know, in, uh, what happened, Hank? Talk to us, Hank. Harrison Buckets missed his second field goal. Oh, no. You have the Chiefs? The Chiefs.

• 31:40Speaker 04

  Bucker stinks, man. He stinks.

• 31:42Speaker 00

  Yeah, he, he was bad last, there was wind last week. So everyone was like, oh, maybe he's okay. Gross. That's bad.

• 31:49Speaker 04

  That is so, so stinky.

• 31:52Speaker 00

  Uh, I, I actually came away from this game, cause the other thing was Abdul Carter's a menace, like absolute, he was everywhere. And Harbaugh actually said that he gave a halftime speech to empty the tank. So this was, felt like a very important game for the Giants. They've been get, getting disrespected, at least from Vegas. They were 10-point underdogs in this game.

• 32:16Speaker 00

  Depending on what happens on Monday night, Max, I don't know if you can still win the East. If J J McCarthy like gives them a shit, cause it's not just, J J McCarthy played well. He played mistake free football. The fact that he is willing to throw it deep and find Malik neighbors opens, that's why they're running the ball, the way they're running the ball. I don't know, Max. I.

• 32:43Speaker 04

  Well, if they win, then it just turns, the same thing just turns into next week, that it's, the season is only on if you beat the Giants.

• 32:49Speaker 00

  Oh, you play the Giants next week. Oh, okay.

• 32:51Speaker 05

  So you're not out of it no matter what.

• 32:53Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 32:53Speaker 04

  No, no, no, no, no. Well, if you lose, you're out of it no matter what. If you lose tomorrow, you're out of it no matter what.

• 32:58Speaker 05

  Unless you come in, unless you kick the Giants out.

• 33:00Speaker 04

  You just have the same game next week. It's like, you gotta win for it, for the season still to be on.

• 33:05Speaker 00

  Here's the benefit, Max. What have we taught you?

• 33:08Speaker 04

  They're coming off a high.

• 33:09Speaker 00

  Huge win. Huge win.

• 33:11Speaker 04

  Yep.

• 33:12Speaker 00

  Uh, the Texans, their defense is just bad.

• 33:16Speaker 05

  They are bad.

• 33:16Speaker 00

  I don't get it.

• 33:17Speaker 05

  Yeah, they're just, they're not the same, they're not the same defense. I don't know if, if somebody's hurt on the D, I don't know what it is, because it feels like all their playmakers are still there.

• 33:26Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 33:26Speaker 04

  That was also wrong.

• 33:28Speaker 05

  What? Oh, the schedule was wrong?

• 33:30Speaker 04

  Yeah, they play the Giants.

• 33:32Speaker 00

  Really easy to not fuck up.

• 33:33Speaker 04

  Well, I was looking at the Giants' schedule and their next game is against the Eagles, but they have a bye, which makes it harder.

• 33:38Speaker 00

  Got it. Yeah. Got it.

• 33:40Speaker 05

  So that bye is actually coming at a really bad time for the Eagles.

• 33:42Speaker 04

  Correct.

• 33:43Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 33:44Speaker 04

  We play every team off a bye. I don't know how.

• 33:46Speaker 00

  But yeah, the, the, the Giants, or sorry, the, the Texans offense wasn't, I mean, it was, like, the Giants' defense played really well today. But again, it's like, the, the Texans just couldn't get the stops they needed to get, where you think that this team is built defensively. And being last year, easily the best defense in football, or actually the Seahawks had, definitely were, were up there, but it's crazy to watch them and just be like, yeah, I mean, they're, they're just giving up big chunk plays and, and 20, you know, 350 yards, 27 points. It's happened multiple times. Like, if you look at their games this year,

• 34:23Speaker 00

  other than playing the Titans who have a barely functional offense, they, they have kind of, like, they've just been giving up yardage and points to everyone.

• 34:32Speaker 05

  Yeah, I mean, 27 points to the Giants is crazy.

• 34:35Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 34:35Speaker 05

  That's absolutely nuts. Like, the Texans teams of the past, they would, they would suck a dick to get 21 points a game.

• 34:40Speaker 00

  Mm hmm.

• 34:41Speaker 05

  On offense.

• 34:42Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 34:42Speaker 05

  That's like, that's, that's a great, great game. Um, Marvin Harrison looks okay, I guess, on the Texans.

• 34:49Speaker 00

  There was a couple of times where there was a ball, like, there was one that was over the middle and it just felt like he didn't really want to catch it.

• 34:57Speaker 05

  Well, he already had his touchdown.

• 34:58Speaker 00

  Yeah, he did have his touchdown.

• 34:59Speaker 05

  He had, he had a catch for six yards.

• 35:01Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 35:02Speaker 05

  Uh, but, but yeah, this, this is the kind of offense that we spent years being like, man, if the Texans just had a halfway decent offense.

• 35:09Speaker 00

  It's a massive loss.

• 35:10Speaker 05

  Every game.

• 35:11Speaker 00

  Yeah, the, uh, D'Amico Ryans did say, this is, this is how you know it's probably not going well, because they also have a, a ton of, uh, penalties and they're like sloppy. It feels like the Texans, they're, they're just a prime candidate for when they get things going. Oh, they'll get a false start or a holding call that will just set them back. He said the penalties are ridiculous. It keeps happening over and over again, so we gotta find a way to fix it or get different people in, so we don't have the same mistakes over and over again. He's talking about people's jobs.

• 35:38Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 35:38Speaker 00

  And he took over play calling on defense.

• 35:40Speaker 05

  He did.

• 35:41Speaker 00

  Should be talking about his job, too.

• 35:43Speaker 05

  He did. I'm, I'm, I'm trying to see exactly where this defense, I don't know, we probably need, this is a case where we need somebody smarter than us to actually tell us what's broken about it.

• 35:52Speaker 00

  I think it's their, I think.

• 35:53Speaker 05

  Cause I was just gonna say that they don't want it enough, big cat.

• 35:55Speaker 00

  From my perspective, uh, their pass rush has not looked as dominant. Will Anderson's still a stud. But more than that, uh, Lassiter has not been like awesome. And that, and that, that was the thing is they had, they had the pass rush, but they also had awesome corners and it doesn't feel like he's playing at that level. And like big chunk plays just keep happening to them.

• 36:19Speaker 05

  It's crazy.

• 36:20Speaker 00

  Yeah. Uh, okay. Next game, we've got the Falcons, 29, 49ers, 20. You, I think you can sum up this game pretty easily. Well, there's two ways you could sum up this game easily. The first is the 49ers turned the ball over four times. The second is Jed York came back and joined the team.

• 36:41Speaker 05

  Mm hmm.

• 36:41Speaker 00

  So the 49ers are now, they were six and O without Jed York, and now they're O and one with Jed York.

• 36:47Speaker 05

  Yeah, the stat is 49ers are O and one, O and one with Jed York attending games since he went to meet a prostitute in an Ohio trailer park. If we want to just cut to the chase.

• 36:56Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 36:56Speaker 05

  That is the issue that they have right now.

• 36:59Speaker 00

  But it really was.

• 36:59Speaker 05

  I think it's fixable.

• 37:00Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah. Leave him at home.

• 37:02Speaker 05

  Just don't go to the games.

• 37:03Speaker 00

  Not home, not home, not home Youngstown. Yeah, not home Youngstown.

• 37:07Speaker 05

  You can do that, just don't go to the games.

• 37:08Speaker 00

  Yeah. Go, go, go back to San Francisco, but then leave when, no, stay in San Francisco. They play in Santa Clara, but it was really just the Niners, the Niners, Brock Purdy was not sharp today. That one throwaway interception was like, that was just an incredible play, but he was not sharp. The Niners still moved the ball. They had, they had nine drives. Every single one of their drives went over the 50-yard line. Just four of them ended in turnovers and one of them was a turnover on down. So five, I think, I think they punted once. Five turnovers and then three touchdowns. That was the game.

• 37:44Speaker 05

  That was the game. And also Jesse Bates had an incredible game.

• 37:48Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 37:48Speaker 05

  So he, he had the interception. I think he forced a fumble as well. And Jesse Bates, he, uh, I believe that puts him in like rarefied air for the most games with an interception and a forced fumble. He's just, he's just a beast. He was just making plays out there. We kind of saw this coming, going across the country for the 49ers.

• 38:06Speaker 00

  Yeah, we talked about it. They hadn't played a ton of great teams.

• 38:08Speaker 05

  They haven't played a lot of great teams, short week, going across the country on the road. Um, it, it felt like this is probably when it was gonna fall apart and Kyle Shanahan's gonna blame the kicker. And he was like already talking about how he's, um, gonna be making calls for a place, Eddie Pinero. So tough break for that guy.

• 38:25Speaker 00

  He did miss an extra point.

• 38:26Speaker 05

  He did miss an extra, yeah. It was a bad kick. It was a bad kick. So.

• 38:30Speaker 00

  And that, that was, I, I know that like, he still lost the game, but it was 26, 20. They'd scored a touchdown to make it 26, 21. You make that extra point and, and a Falcons field goal doesn't end you. Instead, he misses it. The Falcons field goal ends him. They're down nine instead of eight. And that was the game. And Michael Pennix played well. He did. He was efficient. I feel like he's a slow starter as well. I feel like anytime you turn on a Falcons game, and this is all anecdotally speaking, cause he did play a good game, but like, if you turn on a Falcons game, maybe like seven minutes in, it'll be Michael Pennix, one for four, minus four yards.

• 39:07Speaker 00

  And then he'll get going. And he found, he, he did what we've been asking. He's starting to do what we've been asking for a very long time. You have the players, just get them the ball. Drake London, Bijan and Pitts, they caught 17 balls total, 147 yards and two touchdowns, including Drake London's touchdown, which was awesome. And yeah, he, like, that was, that was a good game for Michael Pennix. Good game from the Falcons' defense, turning the ball over. Falcons, why can't they win the NFC South, especially what we saw from the Panthers today?

• 39:39Speaker 05

  I definitely think they can. They got into like a very, very small hole at the start of the year before Pennix got healthy and came back, but I, I definitely think they have the talent to be able to do it. You saw it today. Like, they beat a very good team. Yes, it was on the road. Uh, but they were opportunistic, like on defense, the four turnovers were awesome. The stat on, uh, on Bates is that he has now six games with an interception and a forced fumble. And only one player has more in the last 40 seasons.

• 40:03Speaker 00

  Damn.

• 40:03Speaker 05

  And that's Rod Woodson. So maybe we need to be respecting Jesse Bates more. Also kind of a hot porn star name.

• 40:09Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 40:10Speaker 05

  Jesse Bates.

• 40:10Speaker 00

  Yeah, very hot.

• 40:12Speaker 05

  Very hot porn star name. Uh, yeah.

• 40:14Speaker 00

  Ass for sure.

• 40:14Speaker 05

  I do think, I do think that the, uh.

• 40:16Speaker 00

  Jesse Bates bounces on it.

• 40:18Speaker 05

  I think that the Falcons are real. I think that they're, that they're a good team.

• 40:21Speaker 00

  Real.

• 40:23Speaker 05

  I think they're good.

• 40:24Speaker 00

  They're, they're real in the relative terms of the NFC South.

• 40:28Speaker 05

  I think that they're a, a bad, good team. They're a flawed, good team.

• 40:33Speaker 06

  Super Bowl, who wins?

• 40:35Speaker 05

  I mean, the Steelers, it's the Falcons in the Super Bowl.

• 40:37Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 40:37Speaker 05

  What do we mean?

• 40:39Speaker 00

  I'm not ready to say the Falcons are like a, a good team yet. They're, they're hovering closer. They're hovering closer.

• 40:47Speaker 05

  I would say on a neutral field right now. Whose line is it anyway?

• 40:53Speaker 00

  Uh, I don't know.

• 40:54Speaker 05

  I don't know. I, I think it might be.

• 40:56Speaker 00

  Didn't they play this year?

• 40:58Speaker 06

  Yeah, but that was without.

• 40:59Speaker 00

  That was, but that was Cooper Rush, Hank.

• 41:01Speaker 06

  Yeah, he played fucking horrible.

• 41:02Speaker 00

  Cooper Rush is your guy.

• 41:03Speaker 06

  And their kicker couldn't kick.

• 41:05Speaker 00

  Yeah, they actually kept it kind of close with Cooper Rush. No, the Falcons are, I, listen, I like. I actually, I actually like watching both the Falcons and the Panthers, not the Panthers today, but they're a fun watch. Michael Pennix played, I mean, he, 78% completion percentage today. Like I said, it was like ball control. They, they, he, he, they, they ran a lot of clock in the third, in the third quarter. He was, he, he had some big third down throws.

• 41:31Speaker 05

  Do we think Dre Greenlaw might be getting another, uh, another fine for, for the punch?

• 41:36Speaker 00

  Maybe.

• 41:37Speaker 05

  It looked like he might've been going for the ball.

• 41:38Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 41:39Speaker 05

  But he ended up punching Drake London like in the face.

• 41:42Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 41:42Speaker 05

  As he went, as he went for the ball.

• 41:44Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 41:44Speaker 05

  Uh, and then Drake London had to leave the game for a little bit, get checked for a concussion. Thankfully he was okay. Yeah, this play right here. Boom. Just right. Just right in the face.

• 41:52Speaker 00

  Just got him.

• 41:52Speaker 05

  Max, you think it was unintentional?

• 41:54Speaker 04

  Yeah, I think that was a football play. I think he was going for the ball.

• 41:56Speaker 00

  That's football guys making football play.

• 41:57Speaker 05

  Football guy made a football play.

• 41:58Speaker 04

  It's unfortunate that he punched him in the head.

• 42:00Speaker 05

  His head got in the way of the punch. You can't cover up the ball with your head. You gotta expect that.

• 42:05Speaker 04

  I mean, yeah, he's going for the ball there.

• 42:09Speaker 00

  Yeah, he was going for the ball. I agree with you.

• 42:11Speaker 05

  Maybe that's, yeah, that, that might just be a natural consequence because if you. If you punch a guy's helmet, he might've broken a bone.

• 42:18Speaker 00

  Also shout out the Falcons offensive line. Maybe it was more the Niners defensive line because again. I think the Niners are good. Brock Purdy is a, you know, a top, whatever you want to call it, five quarterback, seven quarterback. I don't know what number of people want to throw them in, but I would. I think most teams would take him. Uh, and they have been playing teams that maybe haven't had the best. You know, their defense has been going up against not great quarterbacks, not great offensive lines. The, Michael Pennix was pressured on nine percent of his drop backs today. Three of the 34 drop backs. That's insane.

• 42:54Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 42:54Speaker 00

  That's the, the lowest since week 16 of 2024. That's, that's nuts.

• 42:59Speaker 05

  I, I think that if the Falcons can do that, they have maybe the best set of skill position players in the NFL.

• 43:05Speaker 00

  That's what I'm saying. Just get him the ball.

• 43:07Speaker 05

  If, yeah, i- if you're able to protect Pennix, he's good enough to distribute it and then just let their awesome players do awesome shit.

• 43:13Speaker 00

  Get the good guys the ball. Watch magic happen. Okay. Uh, before we get to the next game. DraftKings, think DraftKings, who, who are the Falcons playing next week, by the way? Let's do it. Whose line is anyway with the Falcons?

• 43:26Speaker 05

  The Falcons are playing the Buccaneers.

• 43:29Speaker 00

  Oh, that's actually a big game because the Bucks.

• 43:31Speaker 05

  In Tampa.

• 43:32Speaker 00

  All right, in Tampa. I'm gonna say Bucks minus, no, Falcons. Falcons minus one and a half.

• 43:42Speaker 05

  I'm gonna say Falcons, two and a half.

• 43:45Speaker 04

  I'm gonna say Bucks minus one and a half.

• 43:46Speaker 00

  Yeah, you know what? I think the Bucks.

• 43:48Speaker 05

  Do you think the Bucks are favored?

• 43:49Speaker 04

  Baker.

• 43:49Speaker 00

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• 45:09Speaker 00

  Bucks minus one and a half. Yeah.

• 45:11Speaker 04

  Boo boo boo.

• 45:12Speaker 00

  Yeah, nice. Nice one. What just happened in the game, Hank?

• 45:15Speaker 06

  Game over.

• 45:16Speaker 00

  Can you, can we come back? Explain to the people why you're in a bad spot right now.

• 45:23Speaker 06

  I lost the cave parlay. Everyone in the cave picks a either or touchdown. It was, what was it? 13 to one? All seven of them hit except for mine. That hurts. That hurts to let down the cave, my, my coworkers, my friends. And all the fans. Yeah, don't shut the fuck up, Max. Let me talk. Like, don't interrupt me. I was about to say it. Shut up.

• 45:44Speaker 00

  Yeah, I did too. Sorry.

• 45:46Speaker 04

  But it's okay. You can get mad at me.

• 45:47Speaker 06

  And then.

• 45:48Speaker 00

  Max, Hank did call Max chubby.

• 45:51Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 45:51Speaker 06

  Yeah, that was honestly a compliment compared to what I could have said. And then the.

• 45:58Speaker 05

  He's one of these little moods.

• 46:00Speaker 06

  The hungry dog, the hungry dog, the hungry dog. I had, I had, I had the, the, the Giants, the Bucks, and then the Chiefs. To finish it, 25 to one, you got Patrick Mahomes as an underdog to, to win it 25 to one. That's like the best spot you could possibly be. Just didn't even get off the bus. The Chiefs didn't get off the bus.

• 46:18Speaker 05

  It's gonna be tough for you to cover for this one.

• 46:20Speaker 06

  The, the Chiefs didn't even get, like, show up in Seattle. They might not, they might as well have not even played the game.

• 46:25Speaker 00

  Okay, can I ask a question?

• 46:27Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 46:27Speaker 00

  This is not hindsight.

• 46:29Speaker 06

  No, then no.

• 46:31Speaker 00

  It's not.

• 46:31Speaker 06

  It, it's gonna be.

• 46:32Speaker 00

  All right, I, well, no, I'm.

• 46:34Speaker 06

  I know it's gonna be.

• 46:35Speaker 00

  Well, well, what I was gonna say is.

• 46:38Speaker 06

  Should you have picked the Falcons?

• 46:39Speaker 00

  No, no, that's not what I was gonna say. Thank you for, for, uh, making my voice sound dumb.

• 46:44Speaker 05

  I do have a follow up to Big Cat's question.

• 46:46Speaker 00

  The hungry dog is underdogs, but. You could definitely make the case that the Seahawks were the hungry dog in this game. I know they were favorites. But it was an undefeated Chiefs team against a Seahawks team that, that has lost two of the last three and needed a win desperately.

• 47:01Speaker 06

  Plus signs.

• 47:02Speaker 05

  They're a disrespected dog.

• 47:04Speaker 06

  You, you live and die with the plus signs.

• 47:06Speaker 00

  I understand, but you understand what I'm saying.

• 47:08Speaker 06

  It was a bad pick.

• 47:09Speaker 00

  No, no, no, I'm not saying it was a bad pick. I'm just saying.

• 47:11Speaker 06

  I will never pick a, a, a favorite in the hungry dog.

• 47:13Speaker 00

  But the Seahawks were the hungry dog here.

• 47:15Speaker 06

  But you understand, like, it's, it's the hungry dog.

• 47:18Speaker 00

  Yes, but they were the hungry dog.

• 47:19Speaker 06

  Sure, I got you.

• 47:22Speaker 06

  I follow what you're saying.

• 47:23Speaker 00

  Okay, what was your follow up?

• 47:25Speaker 04

  They were, whatever.

• 47:26Speaker 05

  My follow up was just.

• 47:27Speaker 04

  They weren't a dog.

• 47:28Speaker 00

  I know, but if you're talking about just which team is the essence of the hungry dog, who needs it more?

• 47:34Speaker 04

  But that's not what the hungry dog is.

• 47:35Speaker 00

  It was what the Eagles, the hungry dogs run faster.

• 47:38Speaker 04

  But that's not what the hungry dog parlay is. It's the hungry underdog.

• 47:42Speaker 00

  I get it.

• 47:43Speaker 04

  Value plus sign.

• 47:44Speaker 00

  But they were the hungrier dog.

• 47:46Speaker 04

  But that's not what Hank's parlay is.

• 47:48Speaker 00

  I know, but he picked a hungrier dog.

• 47:51Speaker 04

  He just picked the wrong dog, which is okay. Even though I got in his hole and he just, and he just got so mad at me.

• 47:57Speaker 00

  Called you chubby. Said he could call you worse. What would be worse?

• 48:01Speaker 04

  No, let's not do this game.

• 48:04Speaker 05

  Yeah, what's worse than chubby?

• 48:05Speaker 04

  I'm on, Hank, I got in your hole today, dude.

• 48:08Speaker 06

  We're aligned. We're good. Uh, little guy, question.

• 48:12Speaker 05

  I actually was not gonna ask a question anymore because it seems mean. It seems like you're lashing out.

• 48:16Speaker 00

  Want to ask me the question?

• 48:17Speaker 05

  No, it's okay.

• 48:18Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 48:19Speaker 05

  I was just wondering if that was the most impressive Seahawks victory that you've seen recently, like in the last 12 months?

• 48:26Speaker 06

  Yeah, honestly, yeah. They played really well tonight.

• 48:29Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 48:30Speaker 00

  Hey, do you want to share with people what song you were listening to before we started the show?

• 48:34Speaker 05

  I don't think that you should.

• 48:36Speaker 04

  We can just keep that for.

• 48:37Speaker 00

  It's a famous Nirvana song. You guys can figure out which one. He's just said that the Seahawks keep beating him badly.

• 48:44Speaker 00

  It wasn't Smells Like Teen Spirit, but it actually works because it's Seattle. Very appropriate.

• 48:49Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 48:50Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's why you're listening to it. I don't have a gun. Uh, okay, Vikings 16, Colts 10. The Vikings keep doing it. They are six and O. They are an unbelievable defense. The Vikings, did you guys know the Vikings are actually on an 11 game winning streak? 11 game winning streak dating back to last year. In that 11 game winning streak, they've given up 11.5 points per game. This year through six games, they've given up 125 points total. And they did it again. Like, it was. Basically, I know that, uh.

• 49:30Speaker 00

  People might have like more intricacies, but the Vikings did it again. They blitzed the fuck out of Daniel Jones. They shut out the Colts in the second half. They had 55% pressure rate, 85% blitz rate.

• 49:44Speaker 05

  Insane shit.

• 49:45Speaker 00

  Kyler Murray did not look great. Like, he had a really nice run, which that, that's promising that he's using his legs. But his deep ball wasn't accurate. Like, he, the offense is still kind of clumsy and just hasn't looked good, uh, for sustained amounts of time. But it doesn't matter because their defense is so goddamn dominant that they will be in every game. And they don't need many points to win and they're six and O. And you don't apologize for it. And I know that like we've had this before with the Vikings where. There have been years where they have been considered fluky. Remember the famous Kirk Cousins year where they lost to Daniel, they lost to Daniel Jones in that, uh, wild card game?

• 50:26Speaker 00

  I, I, I would say the Vikings probably, uh, aren't as good as their record right now. They might lose a couple coming up. But when you have a defense like this, you're in every game. So that part is not fluky. You know what I mean? Like, there are not a fluky part. Like, th- they will be in every single game, basically no matter what with how they play defense.

• 50:45Speaker 05

  So I, I don't think that they're a fluky team because this is kind of how they've been. We understand that about them. And I also think that Kyler Murray and the offense is feeling. An extreme amount of pressure. Like, I think if they can get better on offense, I don't think that they're, they've tapped into what their ceiling is.

• 51:00Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 51:00Speaker 05

  I think that given the talent level that, that they have, especially like with Justin Jefferson and what the passing game can be. I think that they can get better. I think that their offense is capable of getting better. Uh, their defense is just gonna be dominant. That's just who they are. I want to hear the behind the scenes on how Harrison Smith decided to come back this year. Like, if it was an under the table agreement where he's like, I just don't want to do training camp. I'm old enough. Just trust me that I'll be in good shape. And I could see, I could see a team doing that for him. But I, I'm also curious to know, like.

• 51:30Speaker 05

  Was their defense elite already? And then Flores was like, we need you to come back because I think that we can be special. Or was their defense like looking shady and, and like they, they weren't going to be quite as good as he expected. And he's like, this is the one piece that we need is we need, we need Harrison back at safety. I want to know how that all came to be because he's playing awesome.

• 51:49Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 51:49Speaker 05

  He's playing really, really good football.

• 51:51Speaker 00

  Eighty-five percent blitz rate is so fucking.

• 51:52Speaker 05

  It's crazy shit.

• 51:53Speaker 00

  And Brian Flores is like a legit mad man.

• 51:56Speaker 05

  He's insane. He's insane and it's working. And then, um, Blake Cashman also had an unreal game today. So Blake Cashman's stat line, uh, 12 tackles, two sacks, four passes defended, three quarterback hits. He's the first player since 2005 with two sacks and four pass breakups in a game.

• 52:12Speaker 00

  Geez.

• 52:12Speaker 05

  He's the first player since the year 2000 with 12 tackles, two sacks and four pass breakups in a game. Just unreal shit coming out of that defense. And I do think, I, I think that the pressure's on Kyler a little bit.

• 52:23Speaker 00

  Well, it's coming. It, it, so there's, there's two things that are coming for Kyler. One is GTA.

• 52:28Speaker 05

  Yep.

• 52:29Speaker 00

  Which that could be a concern. Is that coming out this week?

• 52:32Speaker 05

  It's never going to come out. That's, that's the.

• 52:34Speaker 00

  No, it didn't get pushed. It didn't get pushed, did it? No, it's coming out this week. I think it's like November 22nd. Oh, okay. Oh, that's actually right before Thanksgiving. That's kind of nice.

• 52:44Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 52:45Speaker 00

  November 19th. Okay. November 19th. All right. So it's not coming out. So they still have a little time. The Vikings, again, I respect the hell out of the Vikings defense. If you want to make a, a.

• 52:57Speaker 05

  Call of Duty did just come out this weekend.

• 52:59Speaker 00

  Oh, Call of Duty did?

• 53:00Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 53:01Speaker 00

  Oh, okay. Did, like, when?

• 53:04Speaker 05

  Like recently. Like Friday? Just came out. Yeah. The new game just came out. Not a bad game from Kyler. I mean, not a great game.

• 53:11Speaker 00

  He didn't play great.

• 53:12Speaker 05

  Not a great game, but not bad.

• 53:13Speaker 00

  If you want to make the contrarian Vikings like zag on the fact they're six and O. Uh, they played the Packers, which Packers did score 22. Remember that was week one. Um, the Bears in a monsoon that was a weird game with Carson Wentz and Caleb got hurt. The Bucks, Baker's been hurt and not looking great. Dolphins are a problem. Saints are a problem. Colts are a problem. Their next four games are the Lions, Bills, Packers, 49ers. Those are really good offenses. This will be the test. If the Vikings go through these next four games, three and one, maybe even two and two.

• 53:49Speaker 05

  I would say even two and two.

• 53:50Speaker 00

  You could be like, this is, I mean, but that's, that's a little bit of a gauntlet. They got a mini gauntlet coming up.

• 53:55Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 53:55Speaker 00

  Those are, those are four of the top 10, probably four of the top seven offenses in the NFL right now. Who's Lions anyway? Lions, Lions, Vikings. I think the Lions have to be like four point favorites, maybe? Three, three point favorites. That's going to be a fun game.

• 54:17Speaker 05

  What's the over under?

• 54:18Speaker 00

  Forty-six and a half.

• 54:19Speaker 05

  That feels high. I know, I know the Lions typically put up points.

• 54:24Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 54:25Speaker 05

  They give up points.

• 54:26Speaker 00

  Was it? What are you shaking your head about? What's wrong? You hate the Chiefs?

• 54:31Speaker 05

  And the Lions don't put up points. Not today.

• 54:34Speaker 00

  Yeah, they didn't. Yeah, it's a good point. Yeah, no, you're right. But they did. Yards. They put up yards today.

• 54:38Speaker 05

  They do put up points just today was.

• 54:40Speaker 00

  Yeah. Uh, the Colts are officially going to be under 500 by the trade, trade deadline. So.

• 54:46Speaker 05

  Yep.

• 54:46Speaker 00

  Feels like that's going to happen. Uh, I think Shane Steichen said something like, we're not going to, oh, there's a couple, a couple of interesting Shane Steichen quotes. Uh, I mean, I, Daniel Jones isn't good. He's not, he's, he's just not. I don't know. Maybe try Anthony Richardson. He was asked about that. Shane Steichen said, uh, when asked about a QB change, he said, he's not going to do a change because I got a ton of faith in Daniel Jones. The game plan today was to go in and run the football. Obviously the end he added the interception and that happens in football. That doesn't feel like you have a ton of faith in Daniel Jones.

• 55:23Speaker 05

  He does not.

• 55:23Speaker 00

  If the game plan was to go in and run the football and then he mentions the interception at the end of the game.

• 55:28Speaker 05

  Yeah, he does not, he does not have a ton of faith, but I don't know that he's allowed to play Anthony Richardson. I, I don't know what's, it might be Riley Leonard.

• 55:35Speaker 00

  Why, why wouldn't he?

• 55:36Speaker 05

  Cause I feel like the, the Colts are just looking to trade him.

• 55:40Speaker 00

  But the Colts don't have a GM.

• 55:42Speaker 05

  I think, uh, what about their interim guy?

• 55:44Speaker 00

  Oh yeah. Ed Dodd.

• 55:45Speaker 05

  Ed Dodd.

• 55:46Speaker 00

  We, I forgot about Ed Dodd. Don't ever forget about Ed Dodd.

• 55:48Speaker 05

  I don't know what he's allowed to do and what he's not allowed to do. But yeah, now it would make sense for them to, to, to play him.

• 55:53Speaker 00

  I, I, it just, yeah. I mean, the Colts are just a, they're a sad team to watch and it just feels like everyone. At this point, just fire everyone. If you're gonna do, you're gonna do it. Fire and trade everyone.

• 56:06Speaker 05

  Shane Steichen, it felt like in his, his post-game press conference, he was kind of making a case to not be fired. So he was saying, the fight was there. We have no lack of effort, no lack of fight. It's football. We have to find ways to win, but it ain't for a lack of trying or a lack of effort.

• 56:20Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 56:21Speaker 05

  We ain't quitting. So that sounded like he's, he's.

• 56:23Speaker 00

  Thinking about quitting?

• 56:24Speaker 05

  Maybe either thinking about quitting or he's thinking about, man, this team is really close to quitting.

• 56:29Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 56:29Speaker 05

  And he's making his case to the, to the ownership that the team has not quit.

• 56:33Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 56:33Speaker 05

  And maybe when he met with ownership, he was like, I haven't lost a locker room. They're still playing hard. They're not quitting.

• 56:39Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 56:40Speaker 05

  So that might just be him reinforcing the reasons why he should not be fired.

• 56:43Speaker 00

  Yeah. Anytime you're a coach, you gotta be like, I'm not quitting. That's not a good, that's not a good sign. That's Ed Dodd right there? He looks like. Crazy. It's crazy fit. Yeah. He's just wearing a jumpsuit. He's Ed Dodd.

• 56:52Speaker 05

  What do you think he's got in that suitcase? Suitcase Eddie. That's what they call him.

• 56:56Speaker 00

  My, my quick fix for the Colts and the, the fix is not a, a fix to win football games. A quick fix is to make it at least a little fun for the fans is to fire everyone, trade everyone, start Anthony Richardson.

• 57:11Speaker 00

  Anthony Richardson, by the way, he got, uh, I think a misdemeanor for weed, which I didn't even know was still possible.

• 57:16Speaker 05

  Yeah, I forgot about that. That's crazy.

• 57:18Speaker 00

  And, and he was asked if he regrets marijuana possession charge. And he said, I enjoy life. I don't really regret a lot of things I do. I appreciate my life. I appreciate God waking me up every morning. I love that quote. You should not apologize for a misdemeanor weed possession.

• 57:33Speaker 05

  As far as drug scandals and the Indianapolis Colts go, this is pretty far down on the list.

• 57:37Speaker 00

  Yeah, that should be a, a no apology. My last note on this game is we gotta get Kyler Murray a, a different podium. Cause the podium is.

• 57:46Speaker 05

  It was a little, yeah.

• 57:46Speaker 00

  He got podium mogged.

• 57:47Speaker 05

  He might need like a, the apple box.

• 57:50Speaker 00

  He got podium mogged. Bad.

• 57:51Speaker 05

  Maybe a phone book.

• 57:54Speaker 00

  Brian, look at that. That's podium mogged. He got podium mogged.

• 57:56Speaker 05

  Yeah. Give him, give the man a, a, a phone book to stand on.

• 57:59Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 58:00Speaker 05

  That's, they have plenty of those. Also, you know who the leading receiver was for the Colts today?

• 58:05Speaker 00

  Was it Daniel Jones?

• 58:06Speaker 05

  It was Keenan Allen, which is, they're not in a great spot.

• 58:09Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 58:10Speaker 05

  I feel like ever since Alec Pierce has been out, the offense is just not.

• 58:13Speaker 00

  No, they're.

• 58:14Speaker 05

  They don't look like a real offense.

• 58:15Speaker 00

  They're depressing team.

• 58:16Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 58:16Speaker 00

  And credit the Vikings. Again, six and O, Brian Flores is, I mean, uh, what, they do do coordinators of the year, right? He absolutely has to win it because they've won 11 games in a row and they just, they, they suffocate everyone. And I think they're a good team that could be a really good team if they ever figure out an offense.

• 58:36Speaker 05

  You want him as a coach? Brian Flores?

• 58:40Speaker 00

  Don't you already have him?

• 58:41Speaker 05

  We got the next, we got the next Brian Flores. He's from Brian's tree.

• 58:45Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 58:47Speaker 05

  Um, Deronte Jones. No, but no, I don't.

• 58:49Speaker 00

  He's a branch in Brian Flores's tree. Wow.

• 58:52Speaker 05

  He's like, he's a strong branch.

• 58:54Speaker 00

  We don't, we don't want to talk about branches in Vikings trees.

• 58:56Speaker 05

  We don't want to talk about that.

• 58:58Speaker 00

  No, no.

• 58:58Speaker 05

  Our switches.

• 58:59Speaker 00

  We need to make a switch and get a stronger branch.

• 59:02Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 59:04Speaker 05

  No, I don't want him. No, not as a head coach. I feel like also Dan Quinn is kind of a similar vibe where great, great coordinator. It's okay to be a great coordinator. That's, that's what I'll say about Brian Flores.

• 59:15Speaker 00

  Steve Spagnolo.

• 59:15Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 59:16Speaker 00

  Great coordinator.

• 59:17Speaker 05

  Awesome coordinator.

• 59:18Speaker 00

  Yeah. Josh McDaniels.

• 59:20Speaker 05

  Chiefs have never had a game without a red zone drive into my home start.

• 59:24Speaker 00

  Wow.

• 59:26Speaker 05

  Joke.

• 59:27Speaker 00

  Wow.

• 59:28Speaker 05

  Joke. Didn't even, didn't even compete.

• 59:31Speaker 00

  They were really bad.

• 59:32Speaker 05

  Signed a non-compete before this game.

• 59:34Speaker 00

  They were really bad tonight. Seahawks, I mean, Seahawks needed it and Seahawks are wearing their really cool jerseys.

• 59:43Speaker 00

  Didn't even compete.

• 59:44Speaker 05

  Stink of the way Kenneth Walker thought it would.

• 59:46Speaker 00

  Okay. Next game.

• 59:48Speaker 05

  Also, I, I just feel bad for, I feel bad for DeForest Buckner. He seems like one of those really good players that has never really had an opportunity to be great or, or be an opportunity to be like in the spotlight.

• 1:00:00Speaker 00

  Yeah, trade him.

• 1:00:00Speaker 05

  I think that if he was on a really good team, he would be a guy that everybody would live in fear of because he's fucking huge.

• 1:00:06Speaker 00

  Trade him.

• 1:00:06Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 1:00:07Speaker 00

  Trade him.

• 1:00:07Speaker 05

  There's a few guys, like if we're going down the list, it's not like the Colts don't have pieces that people don't want. Like.

• 1:00:12Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:00:12Speaker 05

  They could get a nice little haul for him.

• 1:00:14Speaker 00

  Quentin Nelson.

• 1:00:16Speaker 05

  Quentin Nelson, Jonathan Taylor, DeForest Buckner, Anthony Richardson, probably.

• 1:00:22Speaker 00

  It's, they gotta play Anthony Richardson. Just play him. Play Anthony Richardson. Free him, right Hank?

• 1:00:27Speaker 05

  Mm-hmm. Riley Leonard.

• 1:00:29Speaker 00

  Okay. Uh, Dolphins 28, Jets 25.

• 1:00:38Speaker 00

  Am I up? Yeah, you're up memes.

• 1:00:40Speaker 05

  Can I, can I jump in real quick?

• 1:00:41Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:00:42Speaker 05

  Let's let Hank start.

• 1:00:43Speaker 00

  Okay, Hank, you start.

• 1:00:44Speaker 05

  Just cheer you up. Hank, what do you think about the Jets game? I didn't watch too much of it because it was a Jets Dolphins game, to be honest with you.

• 1:00:50Speaker 00

  Right.

• 1:00:51Speaker 05

  Uh,

• 1:00:53Speaker 05

  two terrible teams.

• 1:00:55Speaker 06

  And the Dolphins won. I, I, I, I don't, I, I can't say I watched too much of this game. I'm sorry.

• 1:01:02Speaker 00

  I just want to give the opportunity to start.

• 1:01:04Speaker 02

  Honestly, it's a great take of the game.

• 1:01:05Speaker 00

  Yeah. Memes, what'd you think?

• 1:01:07Speaker 02

  Uh, the season's over.

• 1:01:08Speaker 00

  Oh, no.

• 1:01:09Speaker 02

  It's over.

• 1:01:10Speaker 00

  No.

• 1:01:11Speaker 02

  Done. Seasons, oh, season ended, officially ended one week before Halloween. Made it further than last year.

• 1:01:18Speaker 00

  Oh, no. So what, what do you have to watch for? Like, what, what is your reason for watching Jets games every weekend from now on if the season's over?

• 1:01:26Speaker 02

  Um, there's no reason.

• 1:01:30Speaker 00

  Okay, okay.

• 1:01:32Speaker 02

  I would just watch, but there's no reason to watch.

• 1:01:35Speaker 00

  Right.

• 1:01:36Speaker 02

  Unless they win every game, which they're not going to.

• 1:01:38Speaker 00

  Right.

• 1:01:41Speaker 00

  So, but you're still gonna watch?

• 1:01:43Speaker 02

  I will watch.

• 1:01:45Speaker 06

  Did you think you were gonna win this game?

• 1:01:47Speaker 00

  Yeah, why? The Dolphins hadn't had a lead all year.

• 1:01:51Speaker 06

  I know, but like, I want to know, cause like, the memes was right, the season's over and season's been over, but like, I feel like he had some false confidence.

• 1:01:59Speaker 00

  Did you mean?

• 1:02:01Speaker 06

  If you knew, if you knew the season was over, like, did you think the season was gonna be over before this game?

• 1:02:08Speaker 02

  Well, no, if they won, they were back.

• 1:02:09Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:02:10Speaker 02

  Cause they got the Raiders next week.

• 1:02:12Speaker 00

  Right.

• 1:02:12Speaker 02

  But now they lost to the 0-5 Dolphins. Dead.

• 1:02:15Speaker 00

  And, I mean, I don't know where you want to start. Like, what pissed you off the most? Because it, was it?

• 1:02:23Speaker 02

  It was, it was the fir-, it was the defense. It was the first half defense. And, I mean, they made a couple stops in the second half, but it was pretty much the same as when they played the Bears. And the Patriots where they just could just run the ball at will and you just can't get off the field ever.

• 1:02:37Speaker 00

  Yeah, Ollie Gordon was a beast.

• 1:02:39Speaker 02

  And you just have a defensive head coach who got, had to prepare for the 0-5 Dolphins.

• 1:02:46Speaker 02

  On a first year coach who Bobby Slowick's their OC, you should be able to hold them under 20 and you couldn't do that in one half.

• 1:02:53Speaker 00

  What, uh, what do you think Aaron Glenn's doing right now with his three timeouts from the first half? Do you think he tucks them in at, at bedtime? Do you like kiss him on the forehead?

• 1:03:04Speaker 02

  I think if you hit him with true serum, he knew he just wanted time to run out.

• 1:03:11Speaker 00

  Cause that was, yeah, that was a choice.

• 1:03:14Speaker 02

  Yeah, no, he, he has no idea what to do under two minutes and it's like broken his brain to the point where he knew if they got the ball back, they weren't gonna do anything.

• 1:03:21Speaker 00

  Right. So he's like, it's better that we just end this right now.

• 1:03:24Speaker 02

  Hopefully they kick a field goal and we can just, we'll get the ball back at half.

• 1:03:29Speaker 00

  And then you had the moment where it was 24-17. It felt like the Jets were gonna maybe squeak it out. They got first and goal from the one, or 21-14, sorry. They got first and goal from the one. They went minus one yard, minus one yard, 12 yard sack and that was it. And then they gave up a big touchdown.

• 1:03:48Speaker 00

  On the other, like after kicking a field goal.

• 1:03:50Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's not a great formula when you're asking 36-year-old Geno Smith to play a perfect game. Like he had to pick and missed field goal, but at the same time, the defense just had to make two stops.

• 1:04:02Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:04:02Speaker 05

  His, uh, the whole explanation that Big K was talking about, like the, the communication at the end of the half. I actually do think, I was joking about it last week with the, the commanders. I do think that you should be able to demand the black box communications if you want to figure out what happened between the coaching staff, the quarterback and the coordinators.

• 1:04:24Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:04:24Speaker 05

  I think if you're an owner, you should be entitled to go back, especially if it's the Jets, review the black box. You need to go back and figure out what happened because somebody's lying to you about what happened and you gotta figure out what, what it is.

• 1:04:36Speaker 02

  Yeah, I, I, I agree with that. Cause like, I think he just constantly lies to the media and we just, we just never will actually know what's going on in his head.

• 1:04:45Speaker 05

  Um, so you guys have still, Aaron Glenn has yet to beat an AFC East team.

• 1:04:50Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 1:04:50Speaker 05

  Right?

• 1:04:51Speaker 02

  Yeah, 0-8.

• 1:04:52Speaker 05

  That's pretty bad.

• 1:04:53Speaker 02

  It's pretty bad.

• 1:04:53Speaker 05

  That's really.

• 1:04:53Speaker 02

  I, I think this was, he's like officially fired.

• 1:04:57Speaker 05

  Now, is he going to be fired during the season or is it gonna be?

• 1:05:00Speaker 00

  Memes fired him.

• 1:05:01Speaker 05

  I know memes you fired him, but you're also, you fired him so that you could take his job and try to rebuild the Jets.

• 1:05:06Speaker 02

  I will, I will be rebuilding the Jets. I don't know how you rebuild a team in a rebuild, but I'm gonna figure it out.

• 1:05:12Speaker 05

  Right.

• 1:05:14Speaker 02

  Uh, I think you keep him. He's the best guy for the job if you want to lose.

• 1:05:18Speaker 05

  So you think that, but does, does that mean that Woody Johnson will keep him?

• 1:05:24Speaker 02

  It depends. I don't know if it was his birthday today. You're the birthday guy. Uh, I, in the FCN emails, which he was mentioned. The Jet, the Jets lost to the Dolphins on his birthday and he was pissed and I think he, he fired someone on that day too.

• 1:05:39Speaker 00

  Okay, so.

• 1:05:42Speaker 05

  It might be a birthday firing because he's so mad, you ruined my birthday.

• 1:05:46Speaker 00

  Well, I mean, you can't lose, this is like, this is the same as the Colts last week. The Colts fired their Chris Ballard because they lost to a winless team. When you lose to a win, Dolphins had not had a lead all season. This was a chance for the Jets to be, if you're three and four, you're thinking like, hey, maybe outside shot at a, you know, be in a wild card team. And now it's just completely like, you basically just did what the Colts did last week, just a week later.

• 1:06:14Speaker 02

  Yeah, no, it, it, and I, I blame it all on the defense. Like, I, I don't want to blame Geno. Cause again, he's just old and a bridge quarterback. Like the defense just has to make one stop.

• 1:06:26Speaker 00

  Also, you, if you want to do positives, Omar Cooper's a stud.

• 1:06:29Speaker 02

  Omar Cooper's a stud. The, the Jets have pieces.

• 1:06:32Speaker 00

  Yeah. He was the first Jets rookie to go consecutive games with 100 ti-, uh, yards and a touchdown. So first in Jets history.

• 1:06:42Speaker 02

  Yeah, he's a stud, but Frank Reichler just loves tight ends.

• 1:06:45Speaker 00

  Yeah. Braylon Allen, Badger, really good.

• 1:06:48Speaker 02

  Braylon's stud.

• 1:06:50Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:06:50Speaker 02

  Breece Hall's quad is killing me.

• 1:06:53Speaker 00

  And by the way, credit to the Dolphins. They are doing the tank perfectly because you gotta win a, a game. They gotta space out their wins and they gotta win a game every now and then to, to keep the morale, you know, there. Chop Robinson is, looks awesome. Ollie Gordon was great. They ran the ball well. They have seemingly a competent coaching staff, a lot of young guys that are getting better. They're doing it correctly.

• 1:07:18Speaker 05

  Yeah, getting a, uh, getting a division win in the middle of the tank is always good.

• 1:07:22Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:07:23Speaker 05

  Like, and they, they haven't fucked up their draft order yet. If the Chargers can at some point win a game, which I think they'll be able to do, Shane.

• 1:07:29Speaker 00

  I don't know. Cause that's the thing, like, what the Dolphins did this week and what the Titans did last week. If I close my eyes, I can't see the Chargers doing it.

• 1:07:41Speaker 05

  You don't think that they could fuck around?

• 1:07:43Speaker 00

  I don't know.

• 1:07:43Speaker 02

  Chargers play the Jets, they're gonna win that.

• 1:07:45Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 1:07:46Speaker 04

  They played Jets and Dolphins.

• 1:07:47Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:07:48Speaker 04

  But.

• 1:07:48Speaker 02

  And the Jets, and the Dolphins did fuck up their tank. They beat the Jets.

• 1:07:51Speaker 05

  If the Chargers get the first pick, Shane, do you think that the Mannings would allow Arch to go there?

• 1:07:58Speaker 02

  What?

• 1:08:00Speaker 05

  It's a, it's a question.

• 1:08:01Speaker 02

  You'll be lucky if he even gets drafted.

• 1:08:03Speaker 05

  I'm just curious.

• 1:08:04Speaker 02

  Let alone first.

• 1:08:05Speaker 05

  I, I didn't say the first.

• 1:08:06Speaker 00

  Is that a no?

• 1:08:06Speaker 05

  I didn't say the first round.

• 1:08:07Speaker 02

  What?

• 1:08:09Speaker 05

  I didn't say the first round, Shane.

• 1:08:10Speaker 02

  We wouldn't take him in the seventh.

• 1:08:11Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 1:08:12Speaker 02

  No, thank you.

• 1:08:13Speaker 05

  That's, that's just dumb.

• 1:08:14Speaker 02

  I don't think so.

• 1:08:15Speaker 00

  It's good value in this.

• 1:08:17Speaker 05

  You wouldn't take a Manning in, in the seventh round?

• 1:08:19Speaker 02

  No.

• 1:08:21Speaker 04

  He made some good throws this weekend.

• 1:08:22Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:08:23Speaker 05

  That's, that's.

• 1:08:23Speaker 00

  And some bad ones.

• 1:08:24Speaker 05

  You're not a draft guy, that's okay.

• 1:08:28Speaker 05

  There was, uh, two, two takes that I saw online today. I'd like to hear your thoughts about memes. Our, our darling Jake had a comment about this game. He said, revenge of the fingers.

• 1:08:38Speaker 02

  Oh, the two of fingers.

• 1:08:40Speaker 05

  That was his tweet. Was this a fingers revenge game memes? Did you get revenge of the fingers?

• 1:08:46Speaker 02

  Yeah, the, the fingers got me. The fingers got me.

• 1:08:49Speaker 05

  Revenge of the fingers is a great, that's a great like magazine.

• 1:08:53Speaker 02

  No one has ever been more mad about anything.

• 1:08:55Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:08:56Speaker 02

  Or has never moved on from anything.

• 1:08:59Speaker 05

  And then memes, do you know the guy online, uh, depressed Jets fan?

• 1:09:04Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:09:05Speaker 05

  So depressed Jets fan, he quit the Jets today.

• 1:09:08Speaker 02

  Yeah, he quits, he quits every year.

• 1:09:10Speaker 05

  Oh, he does?

• 1:09:10Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:09:11Speaker 05

  He said, due to recent struggles and constant pain suffered from the New York Jets have ultimately decided that I'm gonna step away from the game I've once loved. Not sure when I'll be back. I can no longer endure the constant torture and pain the New York Jets give me.

• 1:09:22Speaker 02

  I think that's fair. I think every Jets fan, it's been 16 years since he made the playoffs, you could opt out.

• 1:09:28Speaker 00

  Damn.

• 1:09:30Speaker 02

  Yeah, Hank's just finding out for that for the first.

• 1:09:33Speaker 06

  I didn't realize it was that long.

• 1:09:34Speaker 02

  It's a sports podcast. You'll figure that out one time.

• 1:09:36Speaker 06

  No, I was like, it's just crazy. It's like one of those age things like I was like an adult.

• 1:09:41Speaker 02

  Yeah, you're too old to look shit up.

• 1:09:45Speaker 06

  No, I just, the time, time goes quick, you know?

• 1:09:48Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:09:49Speaker 05

  He's got a little bit of brightness in his eyes for the first time all day. I love it.

• 1:09:53Speaker 02

  Yeah, Hunger Dog in that.

• 1:09:54Speaker 05

  Nope, sure didn't.

• 1:09:55Speaker 00

  Never does.

• 1:09:56Speaker 05

  Uh, this is also a great, a great locker room scene that was set for us by, uh, Rich, Rich Semeney.

• 1:10:03Speaker 05

  He, he said, uh, Geno Smith and Garrett Wilson, among the last players around emerged from the shower at the same time. Talking to each other as they head to their lockers.

• 1:10:10Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:10:11Speaker 05

  Hashtag Jets. Really painted a picture of what that, that locker room vibe was like.

• 1:10:16Speaker 02

  Yeah, they just don't throw Garrett Wilson the ball.

• 1:10:19Speaker 05

  It sounds like that's what Gino was doing.

• 1:10:20Speaker 02

  But, uh, CBS did do a good job of being like, couldn't have thrown to him on this play. He'd be like, he's double covered, but when he was open, Gino would just get sacked or. It was planned by the Dolphins defense to push Gino out to the other side. So he has to throw to someone else. Like defense is game plan for Garrett Wilson, but now you have Omar Cooper.

• 1:10:42Speaker 02

  They can't trade Garrett Wilson.

• 1:10:43Speaker 05

  No.

• 1:10:43Speaker 02

  They can't do it.

• 1:10:45Speaker 00

  No, you already have, you, you have three picks in the top 10, right?

• 1:10:50Speaker 00

  Where are your picks right now?

• 1:10:51Speaker 05

  Look up Techathon.

• 1:10:51Speaker 02

  We have Colts, we have Cowboys.

• 1:10:53Speaker 00

  Yeah. You have right now the sixth pick, the ninth pick and the 11th pick.

• 1:10:59Speaker 02

  It's pretty good.

• 1:11:00Speaker 00

  That's a pretty good start to fixing the defense.

• 1:11:05Speaker 05

  Shane, do you want Jeremiah Smith?

• 1:11:07Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:11:09Speaker 03

  Sprint up to the podium.

• 1:11:10Speaker 00

  Sprint up to the podium.

• 1:11:11Speaker 03

  Sprint up.

• 1:11:12Speaker 00

  Pick is in.

• 1:11:13Speaker 03

  The biggest no brainer of all time.

• 1:11:15Speaker 04

  What about getting Zesty for Mesty?

• 1:11:16Speaker 03

  Why would I do that? Jeremiah Smith's right there.

• 1:11:19Speaker 02

  Yeah, Ja, yeah, take Jeremiah Smith.

• 1:11:21Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:11:21Speaker 03

  Best, best player available.

• 1:11:22Speaker 05

  What about, what about Zesty?

• 1:11:24Speaker 04

  What about Zesty for Mesty?

• 1:11:26Speaker 03

  What about him?

• 1:11:26Speaker 00

  Zesty for Mesty?

• 1:11:27Speaker 02

  He said, they say Mesty is Josh Allen with Patrick Mahomes throwing motion.

• 1:11:32Speaker 03

  Josh should get him.

• 1:11:33Speaker 02

  It's pretty good.

• 1:11:34Speaker 05

  That's pretty good.

• 1:11:35Speaker 02

  They won't.

• 1:11:35Speaker 03

  Sounds like he'll play good in New York.

• 1:11:36Speaker 05

  You're getting, you're getting pervert for Herbert.

• 1:11:38Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:11:38Speaker 05

  You need to get Zesty for Mesty.

• 1:11:39Speaker 03

  I've always been.

• 1:11:40Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:11:40Speaker 03

  No, no, thank you.

• 1:11:41Speaker 04

  What about getting Zesty for Mesty?

• 1:11:43Speaker 03

  You keep asking me that.

• 1:11:46Speaker 05

  I don't like the way that, that Max says it.

• 1:11:48Speaker 04

  It was Zesty.

• 1:11:50Speaker 05

  It was Zesty.

• 1:11:51Speaker 04

  That's the whole point.

• 1:11:52Speaker 00

  Okay, uh. Browns 27, Titans 24. The Browns are just, the Brown, the five and two Cleveland Browns, who are in first place in the AFC North. They have another date with the, uh, Steelers next week. I think it's when big brother, when little brother becomes big brother and on Dom's, uh, sheet.

• 1:12:14Speaker 00

  The Browns just do the same thing every week and I just, it's kind of fun. Their defense plays well, although this, this week, Tony Pollard like scored three touchdowns. He had two, I think in like before we even sat down. Uh, and then they stay close enough that Deshaun Watson is Mr. Fourth Quarter. Deshaun Watson was in the fourth quarter, eight for 11, 89 yards and a rushing touchdown. He had a go ahead touchdown drive and a game winning field goal drive. The, the Browns in their five wins have had five game winning drives from Deshaun Watson. Just keep it close enough for Deshaun Watson. The only other two players to have five game winning drives in their first, uh, five wins for a team in a season.

• 1:12:57Speaker 00

  Matthew Stafford in 2016 and Troy Aikman in 1990. They just do it. They just do it. And I don't, it's, it's kind of entertaining to watch, I think.

• 1:13:06Speaker 05

  It is. I don't think that there, there are going to be some people that say the Cleveland Browns are frauds. I don't think that the Browns are frauds.

• 1:13:12Speaker 00

  No, I, no, because I don't think they're that good.

• 1:13:14Speaker 05

  Right.

• 1:13:15Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:13:15Speaker 05

  Right. The Browns, and I think a lot of people, even Browns fans watching them, they get the same vibe watching them as, as you or I might get if we're on a roulette table.

• 1:13:25Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:13:25Speaker 05

  And we keep betting on red and red keeps hitting.

• 1:13:28Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:13:28Speaker 05

  And we're fucking excited everywhere. We're like, holy shit. I can't believe that red hit again.

• 1:13:31Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:13:32Speaker 05

  Well, it's not, we don't think that red's going to keep hitting for the rest of our lives.

• 1:13:35Speaker 00

  No.

• 1:13:35Speaker 05

  It's going to maybe bounce back every now and again, but they're just enjoying the crazy wins that they're pulling out of their ass all the time.

• 1:13:42Speaker 00

  And guess what?

• 1:13:42Speaker 05

  Which is a great place to be.

• 1:13:43Speaker 00

  And guess what? Their schedule isn't that tough. So they might, they're like, they could be a playoff team. I wouldn't, I'm not going to totally rule that out.

• 1:13:51Speaker 05

  Right. So if you look at like the point differential and stuff like, you're missing the point of the Cleveland Browns.

• 1:13:56Speaker 00

  Right.

• 1:13:57Speaker 05

  I'm not going to treat the Cleveland Browns the same way that I would treat the Minnesota Vikings, for example.

• 1:14:01Speaker 00

  Right. They're, the Cleveland Browns are, the, the fact that they're five and two is pretty damn cool.

• 1:14:05Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:14:06Speaker 00

  And Deshaun Watson is playing serviceable football, which is a good thing for the Cleveland Browns. And yeah, they're, they're five and two.

• 1:14:14Speaker 05

  Yep.

• 1:14:15Speaker 00

  That Browns fans got to be pumped and they also know if they play a really good team, it's going to be difficult.

• 1:14:22Speaker 05

  But it could be good. You never know.

• 1:14:23Speaker 00

  And if you win next week against the Steelers, you'd have two games up on the Steelers. You'd have, I think you'd be three and O in the division.

• 1:14:30Speaker 05

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:14:31Speaker 00

  That would be pretty insane. So that would be something.

• 1:14:35Speaker 05

  In between Deshaun Watson's last 300 yard passing games and today.

• 1:14:41Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:14:41Speaker 05

  There were 495 other players who passed for 300, or 495 different games in which somebody passed for 300 yards.

• 1:14:49Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:14:50Speaker 05

  It's a long time. 2020, week 17 was the last time Deshaun went off for 300.

• 1:14:55Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:14:56Speaker 05

  So he, he might be kind of back.

• 1:14:59Speaker 00

  He's, if you get him to the fourth quarter, he's going to win you a football game.

• 1:15:02Speaker 05

  And I think.

• 1:15:03Speaker 00

  That's just what he's been doing all season.

• 1:15:05Speaker 05

  He's got to have a party now.

• 1:15:06Speaker 00

  Yeah. And all season it's like, hey, we need a Deshaun drive. Let's go do it.

• 1:15:10Speaker 05

  Party at Deshaun's.

• 1:15:11Speaker 00

  I will say the Titans, maybe they found something where they, they were, they looked a lot more competent as a football team. That was mostly Tony Pollard, who was really good running the ball. Uh, they look more competent though than they have. It's something about beating the Colts has, has given them like, hey, I'm a big boy. I can do this kind of energy.

• 1:15:28Speaker 05

  I was going to say that like the first, the first quarter, if you're a Titans fan, you probably, there was a, a second where you thought we might just be really, really good.

• 1:15:36Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:15:37Speaker 05

  How many did they score in the fourth quarter against the Colts? Was it 20?

• 1:15:39Speaker 00

  Uh, I think so, yeah.

• 1:15:41Speaker 05

  So 20 points in the fourth quarter, 14 in the first today. 34 points in, in one cumulative half of football.

• 1:15:48Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:15:48Speaker 05

  There are some Titans fans out there that thought like, we might've figured this shit out.

• 1:15:52Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:15:52Speaker 05

  Salo was right. We were close and we just turned the corner.

• 1:15:55Speaker 00

  We almost did it. But yeah, I got the Browns, the five and two Browns. Hank, do you take the five and two Browns seriously?

• 1:16:01Speaker 06

  No.

• 1:16:02Speaker 00

  They have a better record than the Patriots.

• 1:16:04Speaker 06

  No.

• 1:16:05Speaker 00

  Okay. Does anyone?

• 1:16:07Speaker 05

  Why?

• 1:16:08Speaker 06

  Cause it's Cleveland Browns in the playoffs. Like they're not going to make a serious run.

• 1:16:13Speaker 05

  Are you saying that?

• 1:16:15Speaker 06

  They could not make a serious run in the playoffs.

• 1:16:17Speaker 05

  Are you saying?

• 1:16:17Speaker 06

  We all know that.

• 1:16:18Speaker 05

  They're five and two. Is it because of the schedule?

• 1:16:20Speaker 06

  No, it's just the, the team, the organization, the city, like they could be, they could have a good record. They could be a high ranked seed going to the playoffs. They're not making a run.

• 1:16:28Speaker 05

  Mostly the city, it sounds like.

• 1:16:30Speaker 06

  It's all things combined.

• 1:16:32Speaker 00

  Their defense is good.

• 1:16:33Speaker 06

  Could they make a run to the Super Bowl?

• 1:16:35Speaker 05

  No.

• 1:16:36Speaker 06

  Yes or no?

• 1:16:36Speaker 02

  They have 141 yards on the ground to, to the Titans.

• 1:16:40Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's true. It did happen. I think it was, the beginning of the game was like, they got kind of.

• 1:16:45Speaker 02

  That's still the game.

• 1:16:46Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:16:49Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:16:49Speaker 02

  The Browns aren't good. We know the Browns aren't good.

• 1:16:52Speaker 00

  I want to, I, listen, Browns fans should be happy. Five and two is awesome.

• 1:16:55Speaker 06

  Yeah, they should be.

• 1:16:56Speaker 02

  They definitely should be happy.

• 1:16:57Speaker 00

  And this game against Steelers is huge. They should have flexed it. That would have been, that actually is probably the exact sign.

• 1:17:03Speaker 02

  Yeah, now we have to watch the shit bowl between the Commies and the Eagles.

• 1:17:06Speaker 00

  Yeah, not flexing the Browns and the Steelers, two five and two teams to see who gets sole possession of the AFC North. So that we can watch the commanders and the Eagles on Sunday Night Football. That's bullshit, America.

• 1:17:19Speaker 02

  It's going to be so.

• 1:17:20Speaker 05

  Yeah, it sucks. It sucks. I, I always hate when my team's playing in, in prime time.

• 1:17:24Speaker 02

  Especially when.

• 1:17:25Speaker 05

  I get embarrassed. Yeah. It's like I, I, this is for me to watch.

• 1:17:29Speaker 02

  And it's such a shit bowl that like, you're not even going to be happy about the, like, even if it's.

• 1:17:33Speaker 05

  This is my private thing that I get to watch and I don't really love it, but I hate it when other people watch.

• 1:17:38Speaker 00

  I mean, you guys are talking like you won't talk shit to each other and like that, like if you win, you won't be very excited. You will.

• 1:17:44Speaker 02

  Well, it depends if the Eagles win tomorrow.

• 1:17:46Speaker 05

  Yeah, cause then they could still win the division.

• 1:17:47Speaker 00

  Yeah, but if you beat the Eagles, you'll be pumped.

• 1:17:50Speaker 05

  Of course.

• 1:17:51Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:17:52Speaker 05

  Of course.

• 1:17:53Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:17:53Speaker 05

  You kidding me?

• 1:17:54Speaker 00

  Still win the division.

• 1:17:54Speaker 05

  Prime time?

• 1:17:55Speaker 00

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• 1:20:03Speaker 00

  Okay. Bucks 43, Panthers 13. I'm gonna say something I never thought I'd say. Todd Bowles did a really good job coaching today.

• 1:20:13Speaker 05

  They were prepared.

• 1:20:14Speaker 00

  They were prepared, but not only were they prepared, they basically said, hey, Baker's back, he's still not 100%. Let's win this game without having to get Baker killed and put the onus on him. So what did they do? They ran the fuck out of the football and they played incredible defense. They, Bucky Irving, 24 rushes for 106 yards and 200, or two touchdowns. I think he had, I think he had 11 runs in the first drive or something like that. They were just running the ball. They just ran the ball, ran the ball, ran the ball, and then were really, really good on defense and harassed the fuck out of Bryce Young to the point that we saw Kenny Pickett.

• 1:20:57Speaker 00

  There was 11 Bucks players who had a QB pressure, they had five sacks, 51% pressure rate. The Bucks have the makings of a team that like could be good because their defense has been good. And they've just had really shitty losses where, you know, things have fallen apart. I don't know. They dismantled the Panthers today. The Panthers should never be favorites. Even if the Panthers are good, they shouldn't be favorites.

• 1:21:23Speaker 05

  That strip sack that, that they had where Kancy picked it up?

• 1:21:26Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 1:21:26Speaker 05

  That was pretty sick, returning to the end zone, did a little front flip.

• 1:21:29Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 1:21:29Speaker 05

  Even though he's always hurt, he's like, I can, I can go balls out and celebrate on this one.

• 1:21:33Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:21:34Speaker 05

  The defense played awesome today. Baker just handed the ball off a ton.

• 1:21:37Speaker 00

  48 runs for 261 yards.

• 1:21:39Speaker 05

  Why do you think, why do you think they weren't able to do this when they didn't have Baker a quarter?

• 1:21:43Speaker 00

  Well, the Panthers run defense is bad because, I mean, the, the Bears week one, we, we ran for like 280 yards on the Panthers. I think the Panthers run defense is very bad. So that was, but it was, I'm just saying from a guy who I don't have a lot of trust in, in Todd Bowles, he came prepared in this game.

• 1:22:04Speaker 05

  He didn't fuck this one up.

• 1:22:05Speaker 00

  Yeah, because like you could just see a world where he's like, oh, Baker's back, we'll make him throw it 30 times.

• 1:22:09Speaker 05

  This was the correct, yes, I agree. This was the correct game plan to have coming back. I, I don't know necessarily that the, the Bucks are fixed though.

• 1:22:17Speaker 00

  But dude, their defense is good. Like they have a good defense. Their losses are maddening, but they were, they have not gotten like blown out in any games. And I, if you're ranking NFC South units, yeah, Falcons offense, Panthers offense, which was bad today, but Bucks defense is there. Like they, look at, look at all the games they were in. They were in, they, they've lost one score games and they've all been kind of ridiculous losses.

• 1:22:47Speaker 05

  They shouldn't be how this happened.

• 1:22:49Speaker 00

  Yeah. So I, I, I do think that like their defense can get them back in this thing. And if they win next week against the Falcons, which is a home game for them, they now would have two wins in the, in the division. And I mean, the Panthers are three and three and they lead the division. They're only two games back. So I, I don't know. I'm, I'm starting to, if Baker can get healthy and, and return to what we saw at the beginning of last year, they do have, I think probably the, the most reliable unit in, that, that's what I'll put it as. The most reliable unit in the NFC South is the Bucks defense.

• 1:23:26Speaker 05

  Most reliable.

• 1:23:27Speaker 00

  Most reliable.

• 1:23:28Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 1:23:28Speaker 00

  Because we've seen the up and down nature of the Falcons offense and the Panthers offense. So, and again, if you look at what the Bucks have done this year, they have been reliably good on defense. So I'm, yeah, this was a big step for them where it's like they're, you're never out of it in the NFC South. You're never out of it.

• 1:23:47Speaker 05

  That second quarter for the, for the Bucks was so good, so dominant. 26 points on the board, field goal, fumble return for a touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, all in the second quarter. At least it was over by halftime because I think that if you're the Panthers, you can, it's easier to burn the tape and move on. Be like, this game was out of hand by halftime. We don't, whatever happened before that sucked, but we don't necessarily think that it's part of our identity moving forward.

• 1:24:14Speaker 00

  Yeah, it was Bryce's first really, really bad game this year.

• 1:24:17Speaker 05

  I, I think that they, I don't think that this is going to linger with them too much. Uh, and I don't think that they're that bad of a team. And maybe that's just me being really bitter because I did pick them to be the, to cover the spread against the Bucks.

• 1:24:28Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:24:28Speaker 05

  They were three-point favorites.

• 1:24:29Speaker 00

  You did the, so you're never supposed to do, bet the favorites, bet the Panthers as favorites.

• 1:24:33Speaker 05

  That does, that does stick with me a little bit, but at the end of the day, I do think that it's, if you're going to get, if you're going to lose to a division rival, I think it's better to have one quarter where everything possible goes wrong. And then you're like, fuck it. Okay, we're not going to win this one. We'll regather and we're going to move forward and pretty much act like this game never even happened.

• 1:24:50Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:24:51Speaker 05

  Kenny Pickett came in and Kenny, at some point is no longer a two glove guy.

• 1:24:56Speaker 00

  No.

• 1:24:56Speaker 05

  The right hand was completely exposed.

• 1:24:58Speaker 00

  Yeah, he came in early.

• 1:24:59Speaker 05

  He came in.

• 1:24:59Speaker 00

  This game is over so fast.

• 1:25:00Speaker 05

  The game was over super early today.

• 1:25:02Speaker 00

  A complete blow.

• 1:25:03Speaker 05

  Canalis was talking about, this is, I think the worst half of football that he's ever been a part of. That's what he said at least. I went back for just the last couple of years that he's coached the, the Panthers. This is the, that was the worst half of football that he's witnessed and he's, he's seen some really bad halves of football.

• 1:25:18Speaker 00

  Damn.

• 1:25:18Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:25:19Speaker 00

  That is saying something. Yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm gonna, I'm gonna buy some Buck. What's, what's the, what's the Bucks to win the NFC South? Can you look that up for me, Max? I don't know if I'm gonna do it, but I'm, I'm just saying.

• 1:25:33Speaker 00

  They, they have, they have been a weird plus 450. They've been a weird kind of, I don't want to call snake bitten, but think about their losses this year. Like remember the, the, the stupid loss where the weather delay with the, it was like three hour weather delay, lost by like a field goal to the Packers. They, they were up by 13 to the Steelers in the fourth quarter. They, now I'm saying all this and, and Todd Bowles is still the head coach. So I'll look like an absolute fool when he gets into a big situation within a must win and they, they completely squander it. But.

• 1:26:08Speaker 05

  I think Todd figured it out though, which is if you get up to a 29-point lead.

• 1:26:12Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:26:12Speaker 05

  You don't really have to worry about timeouts and going for it. You can just like kind of go off vibes and be just fine.

• 1:26:18Speaker 00

  And the Panthers, by the way, so, uh, games allowing 42 points this season, the NFL, in the entire NFL, not including the Panthers, there's been three of them. The Panthers have two of them. So they have two out of the five total. So yeah, this Panthers defense is a problem. It's definitely a problem. Bryce Young was not good. So that's, that like when he's not good, they can, they can, they are built to potentially win shootouts when Bryce Young plays like he's been playing. Now, I don't know. And, and again, Baker, I, I'd say if you hit 64, I think he was seven for 11, but the one, the one thing that would make you be like, oh, Baker might be close to coming back is that Tez Johnson, that scramble drill he had, touchdown to Tez Johnson to end the quarter is like, okay, he's feeling it.

• 1:27:03Speaker 00

  Maybe he can ramp it up a little bit more. But again, great job, very impressed by Todd Bowles. I think the Bucks are very live in the NFC South because they haven't played any division games yet. So they kind of control their own destiny in that respect. You know what I mean? Like if they beat the Falcons next week, not saying they will, but if they beat the Falcons next week, they, they now have one over on the two teams ahead of them and they'd be tied with the Falcons.

• 1:27:28Speaker 05

  When is Ameck Abuka going to get back?

• 1:27:31Speaker 00

  I don't know. I mean, he hasn't been good.

• 1:27:32Speaker 05

  I know, but theoretically he, we have seen him be good in the past.

• 1:27:37Speaker 00

  Yeah. They just gotta, they should just run the ball. Just build the whole thing out of Bucky Irving. Build, build the whole thing out of Bucky Irving. I don't know when he'll be back.

• 1:27:48Speaker 05

  I like Sean Tucker, too.

• 1:27:49Speaker 00

  Yeah. Okay. Uh, last game early.

• 1:27:51Speaker 05

  A running back wearing a number in the 40s just looks awesome to me.

• 1:27:55Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:27:56Speaker 05

  And just run your ass over.

• 1:27:57Speaker 00

  Yeah. Um, yeah, I mean, I just, I that it was just a perfect game for the Bucks. It's just an absolute laugher. Didn't matter. Oh, again, 11 Bucks players had a QB pressure. Uh, all right, Bengals 35 Ravens 13.

• 1:28:11Speaker 00

  Not as severe because it was such a laugher in the second half, but the Ravens did it again where they had, they have three losses this year. All three losses, they've been leading at halftime. Their halftime leads in those three losses, 14 to six, 10 to nothing, 13 to nothing. They were up 13 to nothing in the first half. The Bengals looked like one of the worst teams ever in the first half. Not only was Snoop Huntley and Zay Flowers dicing them, but Joe Burrow looked lost, couldn't like, the Bengals didn't have the ball in the first half. He was six for 12.

• 1:28:41Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:28:41Speaker 00

  For 43 yards. They had 19 plays total and 59 yards. And then the second half happened and Joe Burrow absolutely skull fucked the Ravens.

• 1:28:52Speaker 05

  By the way, I think that this, I don't necessarily agree with the way that you framed it. I think this is worse for the Ravens.

• 1:28:57Speaker 00

  No, I, no, I'm saying they, they just keep doing it. They keep having leads and losing.

• 1:29:01Speaker 05

  Right. This is, this is an egregious one. It's.

• 1:29:04Speaker 00

  Oh, no. Well, I, I, I think. It's not egregious just because it's still Snoop Huntley. That's, that's the only reason part. It's not like they, they just run out of plays for him. He comes out and the scripted plays look good.

• 1:29:14Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:29:15Speaker 00

  And then it just doesn't look good anymore. So that's where I'm like.

• 1:29:18Speaker 05

  I get that it's not Lamar, but this is the first time that a team's lost by 20 with a 13 point halftime lead since 1950.

• 1:29:25Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:29:25Speaker 05

  They got shut out in the second half. This is, this is pretty bad. Like if you're a Ravens fan, you're starting to wonder like, okay, how, how much of this was really Harbaugh's fault and how much is just some other shit that's going on in the building because they can't stop blowing these leads.

• 1:29:40Speaker 00

  I meant, I meant more, that wasn't, that wasn't like blowing a 10 point lead in the fourth quarter.

• 1:29:47Speaker 05

  Right.

• 1:29:47Speaker 00

  The way Joe Burrow came out in the second half, like the Bengals went down the field and scored. And I think the live line was even money, even though they were still down six, because it was so obvious what the Bengals were about to do. And they did exactly that. So it wasn't like a, how do we let that one get away? Because you still had a half of football and the Bengals were so good in the second half. And it's Snoop Huntley. You need Lamar back. The Ravens are not good. I mean, they're just, their defense looked terrible in the second half. And Snoop Huntley, just like he can't, he's a backup quarterback for a reason.

• 1:30:18Speaker 05

  They've been outscored 48 to nothing in the second half in the last two games. The, the drives in the second half for the Bengals went as such, nine plays, 66 yards touchdown. Six plays, 47 yards touchdown. Six plays, 76 yards touchdown. Five plays, 79 yards touchdown. Three plays, 24 yards touchdown. T. Higgins had zero catches in the first half, six catches, 148 yards, a touchdown in the second half. And, um, Jamar Chase apparently lit into everybody in the locker room at halftime.

• 1:30:46Speaker 00

  They looked that bad.

• 1:30:47Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:30:47Speaker 00

  And I'm not surprised.

• 1:30:48Speaker 05

  Yeah. Jamar Chase was the one that gave the speech. He got, apparently he cried last week in the locker room.

• 1:30:53Speaker 00

  Oh shit.

• 1:30:53Speaker 05

  When he gave the halftime speech, he said, this, this week I didn't cry, but I lit into everybody. I've done it before. I cried last time. Didn't cry this time. We gotta step this shit up and make something work. And then it came out in the second half and everything, everything that they tried.

• 1:31:06Speaker 00

  Yeah. Joe Burrow played perfect football in the second half.

• 1:31:08Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:31:08Speaker 00

  16 for 18, 249 yards, four touchdowns. Perfect football.

• 1:31:12Speaker 05

  It's the 10th time since 2022, the Ravens have blown a double digit lead.

• 1:31:17Speaker 00

  See, I don't even think of it as a double digit lead just because there was so much football to be played and you just need Lamar back. I don't know what to say. Like you can't, and I don't, it's, is it not kind of weird that he hasn't come back?

• 1:31:32Speaker 05

  So now.

• 1:31:32Speaker 00

  And we do this all the time.

• 1:31:33Speaker 05

  He got into an argument about, about his ankle with somebody because they said, we heard from a, from rap sheet that it wasn't a high sprain. It wasn't a low sprain. It was like a medial sprain. And he goes, oh, is that what they told you? Well, you can talk to my trainer because the trainer here said it's a high ankle sprain.

• 1:31:46Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:31:47Speaker 05

  So I guess that's what it is. But yeah, this is.

• 1:31:49Speaker 00

  All right. So he's given the, the right answer that he's, he's actually hampered because I just.

• 1:31:53Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:31:54Speaker 00

  I don't know.

• 1:31:54Speaker 05

  He, his explanation, it does make sense. It's infuriating if you're a Ravens coach or if you're a Ravens fan. But he's saying like, if I do play with it, I'm just going to be a, a pocket passer. I'm going to be a statue and I suck at that. And like, he's not wrong. He needs to have that, that extra dimension to be Lamar.

• 1:32:11Speaker 00

  But he still would be better than Snoop Huntley.

• 1:32:13Speaker 05

  Probably would be, yeah.

• 1:32:13Speaker 00

  Like that's, that's where it would be like, just, I don't know.

• 1:32:18Speaker 05

  And then after the game, uh, Jesse Minter did, he hit, he hit the button and he said, it starts with me, goes all the way down. So we gotta, it's our first, it starts with me.

• 1:32:29Speaker 00

  Their defense was really bad in the second half.

• 1:32:31Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:32:32Speaker 00

  Did you see the play that Marlon Humphrey got? He got burned three times on one single play by T. Higgins.

• 1:32:36Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:32:37Speaker 00

  It was actually, it was a brutal watch. He got burned to the inside. Then, then I think it was maybe Joe Burrow was under pressure. He, he, he then went and ran by him and then ran by him again after he caught the ball. Bad.

• 1:32:54Speaker 05

  Yeah. It's really bad.

• 1:32:55Speaker 00

  And the Ravens have to play, I think their next two games are the Bills and the Jaguars, I want to say. That's not good.

• 1:33:03Speaker 05

  Lamar's got to be back. He's got to be back against the Bills.

• 1:33:06Speaker 00

  They're in last place in the, uh, AFC North.

• 1:33:09Speaker 05

  Their, their uniforms today were so purple.

• 1:33:11Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:33:11Speaker 05

  None more purple. You can't, you can't get more purple than they were.

• 1:33:14Speaker 00

  At Bills and then home against the Jaguars on short week on a Thursday night football. That is, I don't know if you want to, you want to have that defensive performance and have to go play at the Bills off of a buy.

• 1:33:28Speaker 05

  You'd think that, that Jesse Minter would be able to, to do something about that defense.

• 1:33:32Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:33:33Speaker 05

  So he did say, yeah, he, he said, it starts with me. He said it twice after the game.

• 1:33:36Speaker 00

  Uh oh.

• 1:33:37Speaker 05

  And our guy, Ryan Paganetti, he did a study on coaches. I, I requested this specifically custom research for us.

• 1:33:43Speaker 00

  Nice.

• 1:33:44Speaker 05

  How often do you have coaches say, said after a loss, it starts with me? Um, and then what is the outcome after that? What happens the next week? When a coach says it starts with me, the next week they cover at a 54% rate.

• 1:33:57Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 1:33:58Speaker 05

  So just, just a little nugget. I think that means maybe we bet on the Ravens next week.

• 1:34:04Speaker 00

  Not if Snoop Huntley's playing.

• 1:34:05Speaker 05

  I think it might be Lamar. Why do you look confused?

• 1:34:08Speaker 00

  I thought it was going to be Lamar this week. We all thought it was going to be Lamar this week.

• 1:34:13Speaker 04

  I don't know. He was limping.

• 1:34:14Speaker 00

  Who?

• 1:34:15Speaker 04

  Lamar.

• 1:34:15Speaker 00

  I know. I'm just saying like it, the way the line moved in the early, early thoughts, it was going to be Lamar.

• 1:34:25Speaker 00

  If it's, if it's Tyler Huntley, you can't, I also just like you, I feel bad for Tyler Huntley. He did his job.

• 1:34:31Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:34:32Speaker 00

  He went one and one.

• 1:34:34Speaker 00

  You, he should be able to clock out and be like, I did my job. I went one and one.

• 1:34:37Speaker 05

  One and two even isn't that bad.

• 1:34:40Speaker 00

  Yeah. But that's, that's it.

• 1:34:42Speaker 05

  At some point like this is, this is not the job description.

• 1:34:45Speaker 00

  Yeah. You, you're asking me to do too much.

• 1:34:47Speaker 05

  Mm hmm.

• 1:34:48Speaker 00

  You, you, you're giving me, it's like when, when you, everyone says they're proficient in Excel and then they give you the real thing. You're like, hold on a second.

• 1:34:56Speaker 05

  Yeah. I mean, I know how to move the mouse.

• 1:34:58Speaker 00

  I, I know how to open it and that you can add two things together in the cells.

• 1:35:02Speaker 05

  What's a function? How do you, how does this guy make his cells light up?

• 1:35:05Speaker 00

  I actually think that the proficient in Excel too, like that, every single employer knows that that's bullshit. Do you have to, I think you have to like prove or write, you, you would write something different if you actually knew how to use Excel.

• 1:35:19Speaker 05

  Right. You'd have a certification.

• 1:35:21Speaker 00

  Right. I would just, I remember, I mean, I haven't had a resume in a very long time, but it would just be proficient. And then I would just write like Microsoft Word, Excel, notes, whatever. Yeah. No one's proficient. The people who are proficient in Excel, they don't say it like that.

• 1:35:36Speaker 05

  I'm proficient in email.

• 1:35:37Speaker 00

  I've watched people, I mean, if you watch the Excel Olympics, those shit is insane.

• 1:35:41Speaker 05

  They don't use a mouse. They're just, they just go tab, pinky.

• 1:35:45Speaker 00

  I remember like my, my, like third week out of college, working and saying I was proficient in Excel. And then watched as a coworker did something and I was just like, wait, okay, nevermind.

• 1:35:57Speaker 05

  Like that guy's just a programmer.

• 1:35:58Speaker 00

  I'm not, I'm not.

• 1:36:00Speaker 05

  Memes, are you, are you proficient?

• 1:36:02Speaker 04

  That's what I'm trying to find.

• 1:36:03Speaker 02

  I used to be. I took a class on it.

• 1:36:05Speaker 00

  Really?

• 1:36:05Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:36:06Speaker 05

  Good for you. Teach you something.

• 1:36:08Speaker 02

  If.

• 1:36:09Speaker 00

  If is big.

• 1:36:10Speaker 02

  If evil.

• 1:36:11Speaker 04

  Am I spelling your name?

• 1:36:12Speaker 02

  Parenthesis.

• 1:36:13Speaker 05

  What about then?

• 1:36:16Speaker 02

  I think then is in there. I used to know. I used to know. You gotta close the parentheses.

• 1:36:21Speaker 05

  Mm hmm.

• 1:36:21Speaker 02

  And then if you're able to do macros, you could, you could, you could get a job.

• 1:36:26Speaker 05

  What's a macro?

• 1:36:27Speaker 04

  PFT does macro.

• 1:36:28Speaker 05

  I do that every Monday, Wednesday, I record it.

• 1:36:31Speaker 02

  That's, that's how you do it. You have to record macro.

• 1:36:34Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:36:35Speaker 02

  And then that macro gets.

• 1:36:39Speaker 00

  What?

• 1:36:41Speaker 02

  Macros.

• 1:36:42Speaker 04

  You're just saying words.

• 1:36:43Speaker 02

  Macros. No, no, no. Back, back in the day when I used to work in accounting.

• 1:36:48Speaker 05

  Would you write macros?

• 1:36:49Speaker 02

  We had a macro guy who, who would write, he would write the macros.

• 1:36:52Speaker 05

  What does it mean?

• 1:36:54Speaker 00

  What are you saying? This is how unproficient, unproficient?

• 1:36:58Speaker 02

  Those are people who are super efficient. They're able to write macros.

• 1:37:02Speaker 05

  Shane, do you?

• 1:37:03Speaker 00

  I don't even know what you're saying.

• 1:37:07Speaker 04

  I got, I got the base level of knowledge for Excel.

• 1:37:10Speaker 05

  That might have to be.

• 1:37:10Speaker 04

  Google Sheets.

• 1:37:11Speaker 00

  I'm so bad at it. If you send me an Excel, I could probably break it in like two seconds just by being an idiot. I always get scared. I don't even like, I'm so bad at Excel. Like someone will share something with me and I, I'll not really know what I'm looking at. Like the, it's, it's made. It has everything there. Oh, Shane.

• 1:37:30Speaker 05

  That should maybe be like a punishment. Take it in Excel class.

• 1:37:34Speaker 00

  Ooh.

• 1:37:35Speaker 05

  With a test that you have to pass.

• 1:37:36Speaker 00

  Ooh.

• 1:37:37Speaker 02

  Got, got to explain what a macro is.

• 1:37:39Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:37:39Speaker 02

  Sure. An Excel macro is a saved sequence of actions, keystrokes and commands that Excel replays on command to automate repetitive tasks.

• 1:37:46Speaker 00

  Wow.

• 1:37:46Speaker 02

  So you write it.

• 1:37:47Speaker 05

  That sounds really cool. It's like a robot?

• 1:37:49Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:37:50Speaker 05

  Is that AI?

• 1:37:51Speaker 02

  Yeah, essentially.

• 1:37:52Speaker 05

  Sweet. Damn.

• 1:37:55Speaker 00

  I like that punishment. One of us should actually do that.

• 1:38:00Speaker 05

  Max, are you proficient?

• 1:38:01Speaker 04

  I'm trying to, I, I think I'm proficient.

• 1:38:03Speaker 00

  Mount Rushmore next year.

• 1:38:05Speaker 05

  You're proficient in, in, uh, triple XL.

• 1:38:09Speaker 00

  Damn.

• 1:38:09Speaker 04

  I'm not triple XL.

• 1:38:11Speaker 00

  Hank, what was one of the mean things you wrote?

• 1:38:13Speaker 02

  Stop it.

• 1:38:14Speaker 00

  I don't.

• 1:38:15Speaker 02

  I didn't even do anything.

• 1:38:17Speaker 00

  Chubby's.

• 1:38:17Speaker 04

  I didn't have a list. Chubby's not me. You're chubby too.

• 1:38:21Speaker 02

  What the fuck, dude?

• 1:38:22Speaker 05

  Hank's just, I'm not, I'm not going to talk to Hank anymore because I'm, I don't want to, I don't want to catch any of these.

• 1:38:26Speaker 02

  Everyone's stopping.

• 1:38:27Speaker 04

  It's not me. It's just.

• 1:38:30Speaker 04

  True.

• 1:38:32Speaker 05

  Hank's just lashing out.

• 1:38:33Speaker 02

  I don't think Big Cat's chubby.

• 1:38:35Speaker 00

  Chubby-ish. No. Just like Hank's a loser-ish because he can't win the hungry dog.

• 1:38:41Speaker 04

  I'm a loser.

• 1:38:42Speaker 00

  How do you, how do you get, how do you win the money line of the New York Giants plus 10 and not walk away with anything?

• 1:38:48Speaker 04

  I'm a loser.

• 1:38:49Speaker 00

  That's insane.

• 1:38:50Speaker 04

  I'm a loser.

• 1:38:50Speaker 00

  And there were some dogs that won today.

• 1:38:53Speaker 04

  Yeah, I'm a loser.

• 1:38:54Speaker 00

  Bucks, dog.

• 1:38:55Speaker 04

  I had them.

• 1:38:55Speaker 00

  Falcons, dog.

• 1:39:01Speaker 00

  Go to the afternoon games. Bro, you think just gave me a look like you're gonna, you keep going because we'll go past chubby.

• 1:39:10Speaker 04

  No, I didn't say that.

• 1:39:12Speaker 00

  No, I know you looked it. Uh, oh, oh, here we go.

• 1:39:17Speaker 04

  Let's bring it back.

• 1:39:18Speaker 00

  Hey, come on back. Come on, Hank.

• 1:39:20Speaker 04

  Let's get to these.

• 1:39:21Speaker 00

  Lock back in.

• 1:39:21Speaker 05

  Hank, you're not a loser.

• 1:39:23Speaker 04

  Really good.

• 1:39:23Speaker 00

  You're not a loser. You're not a loser.

• 1:39:25Speaker 05

  Think about the daps.

• 1:39:26Speaker 00

  Also, you, you.

• 1:39:27Speaker 05

  So many daps.

• 1:39:28Speaker 00

  You pick, like, I was impressed that you called out the Giants today. That was a great fucking.

• 1:39:34Speaker 04

  Thanks, man.

• 1:39:36Speaker 00

  You know ball.

• 1:39:37Speaker 04

  Yeah, thanks. Totally.

• 1:39:38Speaker 00

  What? I'm being honest.

• 1:39:40Speaker 04

  I know.

• 1:39:41Speaker 00

  That was a good call out. Like, they're 10-point underdogs.

• 1:39:44Speaker 05

  Hank, you've seen, what?

• 1:39:46Speaker 04

  It's not that serious.

• 1:39:47Speaker 05

  Three World Series wins?

• 1:39:49Speaker 04

  Yep.

• 1:39:50Speaker 05

  How many Super Bowls?

• 1:39:51Speaker 04

  Six.

• 1:39:52Speaker 05

  Six Super Bowls?

• 1:39:52Speaker 00

  Not that serious.

• 1:39:53Speaker 05

  Countless daps.

• 1:39:54Speaker 00

  He lost the bet.

• 1:39:55Speaker 05

  A Stanley Cup?

• 1:39:57Speaker 00

  Tomorrow.

• 1:39:58Speaker 05

  Two Celtics championships, a parade.

• 1:40:00Speaker 00

  We'll all lose bets.

• 1:40:02Speaker 05

  Two Water Dogs titles?

• 1:40:04Speaker 00

  What are you gonna say, Max?

• 1:40:07Speaker 04

  I had nothing to say.

• 1:40:08Speaker 00

  Oh, at the, the, uh, college football show on Friday at UConn, uh, which is a great crowd. Someone, someone made a sign that just said, like, shout out the Water Dogs. They're like Water Dogs for life. And I did the, I just pointed to my finger. I went one, two, for my rings. It's pretty cool.

• 1:40:24Speaker 04

  Do you still have that ring?

• 1:40:25Speaker 00

  No, but it felt cool.

• 1:40:26Speaker 04

  Do you think you're gonna?

• 1:40:27Speaker 00

  To do the like, yeah, Water Dogs, one, two.

• 1:40:30Speaker 04

  Do you think you'll get the second one?

• 1:40:31Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:40:31Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:40:32Speaker 05

  You know what?

• 1:40:32Speaker 00

  Paul Reville's, Paul Reville's our guy. He will do it.

• 1:40:34Speaker 05

  Probably donated those first rings to charity.

• 1:40:36Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:40:37Speaker 05

  But we do so much charity work, we just kind of forgot about it.

• 1:40:40Speaker 04

  I thought Billy took them.

• 1:40:42Speaker 05

  Yeah, probably. Also, also worth investigating.

• 1:40:45Speaker 00

  We'll find him. Okay. Broncos 30, Cardinals 16.

• 1:40:48Speaker 05

  Two of fingers, one of our rings.

• 1:40:50Speaker 00

  Two of fingers. Broncos 30, Cardinals 16. Broncos offense, Bo Nix, Bo Nix. Now, the run was awesome. I don't think, I don't remember seeing a run like that in a while in the NFL where it was a 62-yard scramble that there wasn't anyone even close to him. And did he complete all his deep passes? No, but he took them. He tried to throw deep.

• 1:41:15Speaker 05

  Bo Nix heard the criticism. He heard Ryan Fitzpatrick say that he was disrespecting the position. And in, uh, week seven, he had the highest average depth of target.

• 1:41:25Speaker 00

  Love that.

• 1:41:25Speaker 05

  Because he just came out bombing them, just throwing deep every play, being like, fuck you guys. I know what you're saying about me calling me the check down king. Because before, I think his average was like 6.3.

• 1:41:36Speaker 00

  I think it was lower than that. It was like 4.9.

• 1:41:38Speaker 05

  For his, uh, depth of target. It might've been lower. I, I know at some point it was, it was in the, uh, like low sixes. But yeah, last week, taking that into account, it probably is like right around five. And then this, yeah, this week it was, uh, 11.3 at one point today. I think it evened out being 10.92.

• 1:41:55Speaker 00

  There you go, Bo.

• 1:41:55Speaker 05

  So Bo was like, yeah.

• 1:41:56Speaker 00

  There you go, Bo.

• 1:41:57Speaker 05

  I'm gonna air it out. I'm gonna throw it deep and, uh, and fuck what you guys are saying. But honestly, you guys might have a point, too.

• 1:42:03Speaker 00

  Yeah, I know. He wasn't like he was great, but he, he might be getting his swagger back.

• 1:42:08Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:42:08Speaker 00

  This is how you gotta get your swagger.

• 1:42:10Speaker 05

  That's when, when I heard Big Cat say like, what'd you call it? Like a point of crisis?

• 1:42:13Speaker 00

  It was.

• 1:42:14Speaker 05

  That's when Bo Nix started to do Bo, the good Bo Nix shit.

• 1:42:17Speaker 00

  If he came out and played the Cardinal, the, the Arizona Cardinals, where you know that the Broncos defense is gonna put Jacoby Brissette in hell.

• 1:42:25Speaker 05

  Yep.

• 1:42:25Speaker 00

  They were in hell. Nick Padino had a billion pressures in this game. Alex Singleton had 19 tackles. They were in hell. If you know that your defense can put the Cardinals in hell, you can have, a, and you come out and you don't throw it past the line of scrimmage, then it's a point of crisis. Bo Nix, you passed the point of crisis. You're good. You're, well, no, you're not good.

• 1:42:48Speaker 05

  You're Bo.

• 1:42:48Speaker 00

  You're trying to, you're close to getting your swagger back. Oh, no, Hank just tweeted, my bets never hit. I blow the cave parlay for the boys and the people. I can't golf from either side. I exist solely for dogs to bite and rip a toy version of me to shreds.

• 1:43:01Speaker 05

  Okay, a couple of things. Number one, this sounds like Olivia Soprano, because she gave her Twitter account. Uh, number two, Hank, you've been dominating people in the callouts.

• 1:43:13Speaker 04

  Yeah, I'm just saying what people are saying, and I, I agree with them.

• 1:43:16Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:43:17Speaker 05

  Okay. You, I mean.

• 1:43:19Speaker 00

  Oh, man, the, the audacity to have lock in your name, shaking my head. That's pretty funny.

• 1:43:25Speaker 04

  Really funny.

• 1:43:26Speaker 00

  Oh, okay. It wasn't funny. Sorry, Travis. Delete that.

• 1:43:31Speaker 05

  Uh, I agree. Not funny.

• 1:43:35Speaker 05

  It's not.

• 1:43:36Speaker 00

  Max is reporting it. Wait, what are the, what are the options for reporting? I've never seen that.

• 1:43:42Speaker 04

  I reported it, Hank.

• 1:43:44Speaker 00

  What are the options for?

• 1:43:45Speaker 05

  You're a good guy, Max.

• 1:43:47Speaker 00

  I don't know. You gotta be a real loser to report shit. Spam, hate, abuse, child safety, impersonation, illegal and regulated behaviors, private and non-consensual content, suicide, self-arm, terrorism, terrorism, civic integrity. Oh, that's real nerd shit. Okay, uh,

• 1:44:05Speaker 00

  we need to get Bidwell out of Arizona. I promised someone this morning that I would, uh, say that. I think he's a pretty bad owner because the Cardinals suck.

• 1:44:13Speaker 05

  He's a terrible owner.

• 1:44:14Speaker 00

  And, uh, let's get him out. Let's get him the fuck out. He's a piece of shit.

• 1:44:22Speaker 00

  Let's get him out.

• 1:44:22Speaker 05

  I agree.

• 1:44:23Speaker 00

  Team has never been good. It's been good one time.

• 1:44:25Speaker 05

  He's milking the fan base.

• 1:44:27Speaker 00

  Yeah. He, he's in, it sucks. And he's, sell the team, get the fuck out. You have no intentions of winning.

• 1:44:38Speaker 00

  I'm gonna do some more research on this Bidwell guy. I'm gonna do Big Cat Finds Out. And when I say that, I'm gonna just name search Bidwell and just, someone's gonna probably have a thread that's like, this is why he sucks. And I'll, I'll be in on it.

• 1:44:51Speaker 05

  I know that he has been named in a lot of lawsuits.

• 1:44:53Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:44:54Speaker 05

  I know that for sure.

• 1:44:54Speaker 00

  Bad guy.

• 1:44:55Speaker 05

  Yeah, he's been in trouble with, uh, with the league. He's been on the shortlist.

• 1:45:00Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:45:01Speaker 05

  Like, like Goodell has put him on the hot seat and been like, hey, you got straight up and fly right, Bidwell.

• 1:45:05Speaker 00

  Well, let's get him the fuck out. Yeah, the, the, the fans, uh, the, the game was all Broncos fans. Literally just orange everywhere.

• 1:45:13Speaker 05

  Yeah, it's pretty bad.

• 1:45:14Speaker 00

  And it was Larry Fitzgerald Day, which is, Larry's the man.

• 1:45:17Speaker 05

  He's coming back, right?

• 1:45:19Speaker 00

  He might be coming back.

• 1:45:20Speaker 05

  Is this the first ever, do they put him in the Ring of Honor?

• 1:45:22Speaker 00

  I think so.

• 1:45:23Speaker 05

  The first ever guy in the Ring of Honor who has not retired.

• 1:45:26Speaker 00

  Sell the team. Michael Bidwell, sell the fucking team. You're a bad guy.

• 1:45:31Speaker 05

  There is a, uh, hashtag Bidwell out campaign.

• 1:45:34Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:45:35Speaker 05

  Fans raised over $8,000 for digital billboards across the Phoenix metro area.

• 1:45:40Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:45:41Speaker 05

  I didn't encourage, it actually didn't make him sell the team, but I, I appreciate the effort.

• 1:45:45Speaker 00

  Yes, that's good effort. Uh, I'm buying Broncos stock, by the way. I'd like to report that. I'm buying Broncos stock. If they can, there, there's a huge, they have a huge matchup next week against the Chiefs.

• 1:45:57Speaker 00

  They find a win, way to win that game. They're back in control of the AFC West. Their defense is really, really good. Remember how bad they played against the Chiefs in week one? They've fixed a lot of that. I'm buying, I'm buying Broncos stock, especially if Bo Nix is gonna, is gonna take some risks. We need Bo Nix to take risks. We need Bo Nix to run. He did both those today.

• 1:46:16Speaker 05

  Dotting to bone.

• 1:46:17Speaker 00

  This was like a warm-up game for the Chiefs next week. Buying the Broncos stock.

• 1:46:22Speaker 05

  There are like five or six times every game where I see Bo Nix scrambling. It does feel like he can pick up a first down.

• 1:46:30Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:46:31Speaker 05

  And he doesn't.

• 1:46:31Speaker 00

  Now he's going to.

• 1:46:32Speaker 05

  And now he's doing it. That was an electric run that he had today.

• 1:46:35Speaker 00

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• 1:48:37Speaker 00

  Okay. Lions 20, Packers 17. This was a frustrating game to watch. I think we can all agree on that. Would that be a fair way to?

• 1:48:49Speaker 05

  Yeah, it's very frustrating to watch. Yes.

• 1:48:50Speaker 00

  Very frustrating game to watch because there was a ton of yards and a ton of flags and not a lot of points. And listen, there's a lot of ways you can lose a football game. I think blaming the refs is kinda silly, but I hate, I hate to say this, but if you're a Packers fan, you probably have a few complaints because there were some questionable roughing the passer calls.

• 1:49:15Speaker 05

  Roughing passers.

• 1:49:17Speaker 00

  There's a couple of them. Yeah.

• 1:49:18Speaker 05

  Egregious. And then there was like a late whistle or a whistle that didn't even happen.

• 1:49:23Speaker 00

  Mm hmm.

• 1:49:23Speaker 05

  When the ref threw the flag from his back, which by the way, that's a great play. That ref just went out there, made a play.

• 1:49:28Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 1:49:29Speaker 05

  But it was, it was for like unnecessary roughness, but there was no, there was no whistle and the player on offense got up like he hadn't been touched down.

• 1:49:38Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:49:38Speaker 05

  So I understand why you, you played through the E and whistle.

• 1:49:41Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:49:41Speaker 05

  You don't play through the W and whistle.

• 1:49:43Speaker 00

  Yeah. And it was also a weird game because it was essentially like the Packers and the Lions, Matt LaFleur and Dan Campbell had a bet on who can pass up more field goals. And they, I don't even know who ended up passing up more field goals. Packers probably should have passed up more field goals because Trace Mack sucked. I know his last one got blocked, but he missed a chip shot in the first half as well.

• 1:50:05Speaker 05

  0 for 2 from 35 yards and then?

• 1:50:07Speaker 00

  Yeah. So uh, it was, it was, it was a weird game because again, there was some like very fun explosive plays. JMo scored twice. Amon Ra had a billion yards. Josh Jacobs, not great guy, but pretty damn good at football. Uh, he was back and he had a, a, a pretty unbelievable touchdown. But yeah, it was a tough watch. Lions though, I, I'll say this, Lions defense looks like they're, they're trending in the right way. Brian Branch coming back was big.

• 1:50:37Speaker 05

  Brian Branch is, is one of the elite safeties when he's healthy. And yeah, he had that great interception on love today. It's good to see him back. I also like the, the little green like antenna mouthpiece that he was sticking out of his helmet. That's always cool to see.

• 1:50:49Speaker 00

  Also helps that the Packers are, I, I don't know what the stats are. I don't think I've ever seen a team drop more balls. They just have wide receivers that cannot, they get, they, they have wide receivers that are all so fast and get open and drop balls.

• 1:51:02Speaker 05

  Golden men.

• 1:51:02Speaker 00

  He just drops it.

• 1:51:03Speaker 05

  Golden. He, he would be, he would be so good if wide receivers didn't have hands.

• 1:51:08Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:51:08Speaker 05

  He's always open. He's always in the right place. The balls are always hitting him in stride. And when he catches him, he even has trouble like getting after the catch. He's like, he doesn't believe that he caught it. And then as he brings it in, it gets knocked out.

• 1:51:21Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:51:21Speaker 05

  He's just, he's a very frustrating player to watch because he's could be, he could be amazing.

• 1:51:25Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:51:25Speaker 05

  And instead it's like, you can't really trust throwing the ball. Um, Dan Campbell, what the fuck are you doing? That's my question coming out of this game. Congrats on the win.

• 1:51:34Speaker 00

  I kinda liked it.

• 1:51:35Speaker 05

  Going on his own 24 yard line?

• 1:51:37Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:51:38Speaker 05

  Going for it? Well, his explanation actually made me feel like a bitch even questioning him because his explanation was, well, I thought we would get it. Number one. I really believed we would get it. Number two, I knew we would get the ball back if it didn't work out. So I guess checkmate. Dan Campbell knew that all that was gonna happen.

• 1:51:55Speaker 00

  Okay. I know this is gonna sound crazy because I do defend these very aggressive moves a lot. The reason why I like it is you know that if you're the Lions, your defense has not been good this year. If you punt the ball in that situation, there's a very good chance the Packers can run out the clock and kick a field goal. If you don't get it, if you get it, you're probably gonna go score. And if you don't get it, the Packers now have the ball at the 24 yard line. There's not enough, like they can't waste the, you, you'll get the ball back. Either they score a touchdown or kick a field goal. You're getting the ball back with time left. So I think that's kinda why he did it.

• 1:52:31Speaker 05

  It's still a crazy wild boy move and it did work out.

• 1:52:33Speaker 00

  But I think that's why, like it's actually in a weird way. I don't know if this is how he thought about it, but there's no way that the Packers can run out the clock when they get the ball on the 24 yard line. There's a very high chance the Packers could run out the clock. If you punt it away and they have four and a half minutes to just slowly go down the field and burn timeouts and then like you would never get the ball back. So I kinda like it. It is crazy, but I like it.

• 1:52:57Speaker 05

  His explanation was that he knew that they were going to get the ball back. Well, I think he knew that the Packers weren't gonna score.

• 1:53:03Speaker 00

  No, I, I think that's what he's.

• 1:53:04Speaker 05

  Your defense to not allow any scores from the 24 yard line.

• 1:53:08Speaker 00

  No, I think he's saying exactly what I'm saying that.

• 1:53:11Speaker 05

  Like they could let up a field goal or touchdown and they would.

• 1:53:13Speaker 00

  Yeah, they would, they'll, they'll get the ball back. They'll get the ball back with enough time. You can't waste, you can't run the clock out from the, from the 24 yard line with four and a half minutes left and all three timeouts in the two minute warning. That was his, his point. Which I think, I, I think it's correct. Do you agree, Max?

• 1:53:30Speaker 04

  I'm a hundred percent on his side. I think it's smart. I think more people should think that way.

• 1:53:34Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:53:34Speaker 05

  On, on their own 24 yard line?

• 1:53:36Speaker 00

  Yeah. Because you can't, you're gonna get the ball back. Like one way or another.

• 1:53:40Speaker 04

  Frustrating than like.

• 1:53:41Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:53:41Speaker 04

  You punting it away and thinking it's like, okay, all you gotta do is get a stop here and you're gonna get it back. And then they just slowly, slowly, slowly bleed it, bleed it, bleed it and you're dead.

• 1:53:50Speaker 00

  Not only that, but it's obviously dependent on the team that you have.

• 1:53:54Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:53:54Speaker 00

  If you're the Seahawks, you probably punt it, but the Lions have a bad defense and a really good offense. You just want to have as many shots with your offense as possible. And if, if Dan, if, if the Packers score a touchdown, Dan Campbell's probably gonna try to score a touchdown and go for two and win it that way.

• 1:54:10Speaker 05

  The, the very end of the game was so funny watching the, the chess match going on between like, should, should we let Jameer Gibbs score a touchdown? Should Jameer Gibbs try to score a touchdown? Should, should Jameer Gibbs, uh, get a first down? Should he go down at the one yard line to the point where he might've hurt himself? He might've like twisted his ankle up on him. That was a, a weird awkward way that he went down because he's just, he's, everything in his body is like score a touchdown here.

• 1:54:34Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:54:35Speaker 05

  But it was, it was a smart thing, I guess, to go down at the one yard line. Uh, but LaFleur was thinking the same thing, like they're gonna score. Let's just try to get the ball back immediately.

• 1:54:42Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:54:43Speaker 05

  And so they end up kicking a field goal, one second left, um, after the entire Lions, uh, their entire team just, uh, mocked the, uh, the Packers for jumping off sides. It does feel like there's a lot of bad blood between these teams, which I love.

• 1:54:56Speaker 00

  Yeah. Well, the Lions lost twice to the Packers last year. So like they were, they definitely were taking it personally. You could see it leading up to it and the bye week and everything. But yeah, I, I, I know, I, I, and I, I know people are gonna be like, that was crazy that Dan.

• 1:55:10Speaker 05

  I, I do think that's crazy. I, I like Dan Campbell 90% of the time when he does this shit. He's consistent and I think he's a great coach. This is one that I think, uh, me personally, I was like, this one doesn't make a lot of sense.

• 1:55:21Speaker 00

  Yeah. This is one where I actually think he was like, it makes, it, it wouldn't have made a lot of sense if they were on the 40, which is crazy to say, but that's, I think that was his whole plan. That it's because you're on your own, the, in a weird way, because they're on their own 24, that's exactly why you should do it because there's no way they can run out the clock. If you were at the 35 or the 40, then it's a, a more of a toss up because it's like, yeah, then they can just get a couple of first downs and you'll never get the ball back. So I, I think he, I think he was smart. I really did.

• 1:55:54Speaker 05

  It definitely worked out.

• 1:55:55Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:55:56Speaker 05

  So he, he probably knows better than I do, but I feel like.

• 1:55:59Speaker 00

  Think about when, I mean, what?

• 1:56:00Speaker 05

  You're, you're rolling the dice a lot.

• 1:56:02Speaker 00

  But would they, but they got the ball back with 3:25 left and all three timeouts. So, I mean, they, they, their defense played, gotta stop, obviously. Cause you know, they, and, and they missed the field goal, but even if they hit the field goal, you, I, if you're Dan Campbell, you, you'll take down three, you'll take down seven with the ball. Like two and a half minutes and all your timeouts. I think you'd take that all day. I think you'd take that all day versus the Packers having the ball and being like, well, our defense is out on the field and we may never get the ball back.

• 1:56:35Speaker 05

  So the Packers got the ball with four minutes, 50 seconds left.

• 1:56:39Speaker 00

  Yeah. Impossible to run out the clock from there.

• 1:56:42Speaker 05

  And then the Lions got it pretty quick. Three minutes, 21 seconds.

• 1:56:46Speaker 00

  Yeah. But it's impossible, like you just cannot physically run out the clock with, with that yardage. Uh, so yeah, Lions, I mean, I, I weirdly like the both teams can walk away from this, like the Packers. Josh Jacobs being back obviously gave them a little boost and they're gonna get Micah Parsons back. And you also just hope that you don't have as many penalties, uh, that were ridiculous and egregious. And now you play that you go short week Panthers. So you gotta win that game.

• 1:57:15Speaker 05

  They gotta do something about smack too.

• 1:57:17Speaker 00

  Smack is bad.

• 1:57:17Speaker 05

  Smack's an issue.

• 1:57:18Speaker 00

  Smack's really bad.

• 1:57:19Speaker 05

  Smack is whack.

• 1:57:20Speaker 00

  Those, that first chip, because I know the second one got blocked.

• 1:57:22Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:57:23Speaker 00

  But you shouldn't, I mean, as a kicker, you can't, you can't get it. You can't get your kick blocked from that close, right? Like.

• 1:57:31Speaker 05

  It, it wasn't like the guy was right in his face.

• 1:57:33Speaker 00

  Right. And also the trajectory.

• 1:57:34Speaker 05

  It was at the line of scrimmage.

• 1:57:35Speaker 00

  The trajectory, like I understand getting a blocked kick from 60 because you gotta hit a line drive.

• 1:57:40Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:57:40Speaker 00

  That should never get blocked, right?

• 1:57:42Speaker 05

  Yeah. Just hit it really high. Better yet, Rodrigo Blankenship, he needs a job. He's still kicking. I see him on Instagram all the time. He's, he's drilling kicks. Getting back in the league.

• 1:57:53Speaker 00

  What's the line for the Packers Panthers Thursday night?

• 1:57:58Speaker 00

  That's a.

• 1:57:58Speaker 05

  Packers four and a half.

• 1:58:00Speaker 00

  Wow. Huh.

• 1:58:03Speaker 00

  Maybe this.

• 1:58:04Speaker 05

  But also Bryce Young as an underdog.

• 1:58:08Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:58:08Speaker 05

  Like when Bryce Young's an underdog, he's kind of a favorite.

• 1:58:11Speaker 00

  Yeah. I don't think it's gonna be cold yet too. Which there's got, at some points, like some of the cold weather teams gotta be like, hey, we gotta get some, some type of home field advantage, right?

• 1:58:22Speaker 05

  Yeah, that division stacked though.

• 1:58:24Speaker 00

  What? The North?

• 1:58:25Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:58:26Speaker 00

  Yeah. It's insane. Every team is good.

• 1:58:29Speaker 05

  So Dan Campbell now two thirds of the way through the first ever LaFleur sweep. Something to keep an eye on.

• 1:58:34Speaker 00

  That's true. Something big time to keep an eye on. What do you say, Max?

• 1:58:38Speaker 04

  I got nothing.

• 1:58:39Speaker 00

  Oh, you look like you were pursing your lips. All right. We'll, we'll finish up Rams. Rams 35, Raiders, Packers did get screwed though. Like I, I, I, it pains me to say it, but it, there were some wild calls in that game. Like the announcer and Brady was even saying, he was just like, what is this? And I don't know what, like.

• 1:59:00Speaker 05

  Some of the roughing the pass, passers looked, looked absolutely insane.

• 1:59:03Speaker 00

  The, the, uh, pass interference on the interception, that was pass interference. That's the one they did get, right?

• 1:59:09Speaker 05

  For sure. On Amon Ra?

• 1:59:11Speaker 00

  Yeah. He grabbed him by the shoulder pads.

• 1:59:12Speaker 05

  A hundred percent.

• 1:59:13Speaker 00

  That, that one I don't, I wouldn't say is the.

• 1:59:15Speaker 05

  That was a good call.

• 1:59:16Speaker 00

  One you can complain about.

• 1:59:16Speaker 05

  There was actually a worse pass interference in the, the Broncos Cardinals game today.

• 1:59:20Speaker 00

  I missed that.

• 1:59:21Speaker 05

  I don't know if you saw this one. It might've been, was it Riley Moss? It was, uh.

• 1:59:25Speaker 00

  He gets burned.

• 1:59:26Speaker 05

  It was maybe the worst call that I've ever seen. It was, it was that bad. Like it was actually a great play. Here, I've actually got it right here. If you look it up, Max, if you want to pull it up, it's from, uh, Zach Kelberman.

• 1:59:39Speaker 05

  Yeah, that's it right there. Look, this was pass interference.

• 1:59:42Speaker 00

  That's crazy.

• 1:59:44Speaker 05

  Isn't that insane?

• 1:59:44Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:59:45Speaker 05

  I don't like the idea, because we tried it before, of making pass interference completely reviewable.

• 1:59:51Speaker 00

  No, that was a disaster.

• 1:59:53Speaker 05

  It, yeah, because it's such a subjective call. You can call like any contact if you want. You can say that's pass interference, but I mean, there, this just isn't football. That's just not a football call.

• 2:00:04Speaker 00

  Yeah. Uh, all right. Rams 35, Raiders 21. We can go through this one quickly. The Raiders didn't start playing the game until halftime and the Rams, the credit to Rams, they finally, I think they're finally taking this season seriously.

• 2:00:20Speaker 05

  They have no choice but to take, they have no margin for error anymore.

• 2:00:23Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:00:23Speaker 05

  And, yeah, uh, I guess the only thing from this is, is it time for Mendoza?

• 2:00:30Speaker 00

  Because I'd agree.

• 2:00:30Speaker 05

  They have the Jets this week.

• 2:00:31Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 2:00:32Speaker 05

  And I think before the season started, no disrespect memes, uh, before the season started.

• 2:00:36Speaker 00

  Memes, you're talking without the mic on.

• 2:00:38Speaker 05

  No disrespect memes.

• 2:00:39Speaker 04

  I'm trying to look angry, but I'm not.

• 2:00:41Speaker 05

  I know you, you already said, doesn't matter.

• 2:00:43Speaker 04

  Yeah, I'm trying, but I'm, I'm looking angry.

• 2:00:45Speaker 05

  But this is also a, it doesn't matter move for the Raiders.

• 2:00:50Speaker 04

  Yeah, no, they gotta start Mendoza.

• 2:00:52Speaker 00

  What do you got? Who, who's your backup?

• 2:00:54Speaker 04

  Uh, Kate Clubnick?

• 2:00:55Speaker 00

  Yeah, do that.

• 2:00:57Speaker 04

  Nah.

• 2:00:57Speaker 00

  Let's get, okay.

• 2:01:01Speaker 05

  You don't get it, big cat. Gino.

• 2:01:04Speaker 04

  No, let, yeah, let Gino throw for like 4,000 yards, be cool.

• 2:01:08Speaker 00

  Um, yeah, credits to Rams. They, they ran the ball well. I feel like McVay did, like, maybe he did some soul searching. It's like, who are you? Oh yeah, you run the football. And that's what they did. Blake Corum, you have two really good running backs, run the football. They had 100 yards in the first half. Run the football.

• 2:01:26Speaker 05

  So recently, McVay's offense, they've been doing the whole three tight end thing.

• 2:01:30Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:01:30Speaker 05

  Which, credit to them, they've won a lot of football games.

• 2:01:33Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:01:33Speaker 05

  They've had a very good offense, but at some point, I feel like just this season, it's kind of hit a wall where they don't have that explosive downfield threat anymore.

• 2:01:43Speaker 00

  Right.

• 2:01:44Speaker 05

  They don't, they're not getting like huge explosive plays like they used to.

• 2:01:47Speaker 00

  Right.

• 2:01:47Speaker 05

  And so, yeah, they can like play ball control and, uh, usually get one of the tight ends, scheme them open for something, but it's not the same offense that we've seen from the Rams.

• 2:01:56Speaker 00

  But that's, but like, that's, like, if you boil down McVay, Shanahan, like that whole coaching LaFleur, all that offense, it's, running the football is the, is the thing that it's built on.

• 2:02:06Speaker 05

  The most important thing.

• 2:02:07Speaker 00

  Right.

• 2:02:07Speaker 05

  But they, they at least used to be explosive in the passing game.

• 2:02:10Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:02:11Speaker 05

  Which they, they're not really so much anymore.

• 2:02:13Speaker 00

  But maybe that's what, that's what I'm saying. Like, maybe he found himself was like, oh yeah, that is what you do. You run the football.

• 2:02:19Speaker 05

  But this doesn't, uh, just today, as an example, they ran the football really, really well. Uh, Kyron Williams, 99 yards, Blake Corum, 93 yards rushing, 16 carries, 17 carries for the two of them. Uh, their longest reception of the day was 15 yards.

• 2:02:34Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:02:34Speaker 05

  Like that's, that does seem, it does stand out compared to what we normally think of.

• 2:02:39Speaker 00

  Well, no Devante too, yeah.

• 2:02:40Speaker 05

  Devante's a big deal for sure.

• 2:02:42Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:02:42Speaker 05

  Um, but I don't know. I feel like, I trust that McVay will be able to figure out how to make this offense more explosive. And if he doesn't have that guy on the roster, get a guy on the roster that can, that can stretch the field a little bit. But until they do that, I don't think that they're going to be dominant like, like we expected them to be.

• 2:02:58Speaker 00

  Yeah, they did dominate today. The Raiders, the Raiders are bad.

• 2:03:02Speaker 05

  Yep.

• 2:03:03Speaker 00

  I think the first three weeks were very fun. Also, I, I don't want to, I don't want to do it. We've already, we've already kind of won the, I mean, Ash and Genti, like, that's,

• 2:03:16Speaker 00

  I saw, I saw a stat that was basically

• 2:03:20Speaker 00

  identical, Trent Richardson, Ash and Genti.

• 2:03:22Speaker 05

  No.

• 2:03:23Speaker 00

  Not good. Not good.

• 2:03:26Speaker 05

  But in terms of what? Not, not weight?

• 2:03:29Speaker 00

  No, not weight.

• 2:03:29Speaker 05

  Okay, good, good.

• 2:03:30Speaker 00

  It was like yards per carry, total yards, total touchdowns, like, he did have a nice touchdown catch. Yes, that was nice. But, uh, yeah, I'm with you.

• 2:03:41Speaker 05

  He's had a few highlights.

• 2:03:41Speaker 00

  Start, start Fernando.

• 2:03:42Speaker 05

  Start Fernando. I think it's about time.

• 2:03:44Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 2:03:45Speaker 05

  And, uh, yeah, just see, it'll be fun for everybody.

• 2:03:47Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:03:48Speaker 05

  Hank, are you okay? We should note that like, if anybody out there is like Hank, quit being grumpy. Hank's also podcasting hurt today.

• 2:03:54Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 2:03:55Speaker 06

  I'm good. I'm fine.

• 2:03:56Speaker 00

  His kneecap.

• 2:03:57Speaker 05

  Everyone's banged up this time of year.

• 2:03:58Speaker 06

  Yeah, exactly.

• 2:03:59Speaker 05

  But hey, listen, grit.

• 2:04:01Speaker 06

  Yes.

• 2:04:01Speaker 05

  They're just for the record, we do have to list you on the injury.

• 2:04:03Speaker 04

  What happened to your kneecap?

• 2:04:04Speaker 06

  Nothing. I'm fine.

• 2:04:06Speaker 04

  Why did, did PFT just make something up?

• 2:04:09Speaker 06

  I don't, I think he's just got nothing to talk about, so he's just trying to kick it to me. I have, I have nothing, my, like.

• 2:04:16Speaker 00

  All right. You are injured.

• 2:04:18Speaker 05

  Hank, I, I saw.

• 2:04:18Speaker 06

  My knee kind of hurts.

• 2:04:20Speaker 05

  Right now, I saw you stretch your knee out and you grimaced, so I wanted to, I wanted to give you credit and say, you're podcasting hurt.

• 2:04:26Speaker 06

  Thank you. I'm good.

• 2:04:27Speaker 00

  It's also never good when you ask, and this goes for all of us in this room, whenever we ask each other for health advice, because you did turn to PFT and you're like, what is this? It's like, we're, we're, we're a bad group of health guys.

• 2:04:40Speaker 04

  Research chemicals.

• 2:04:41Speaker 00

  As, as a group, we should never be asking each other for advice.

• 2:04:46Speaker 05

  Yeah. You want me to give you health advice? Me?

• 2:04:49Speaker 00

  We're out of shape. We're injured.

• 2:04:52Speaker 05

  I've torn every muscle in my body in the last, in the last 12 months.

• 2:04:56Speaker 00

  All right. Uh, Roback question. Roback.com promo code take 20% off your first per, uh, purchase. Qzips, hoodies, joggers, shorts, roback.com. Cowboys, Eagles. Max, you will be in the building.

• 2:05:11Speaker 04

  Yep.

• 2:05:12Speaker 00

  What are your quick thoughts on this game on Monday Night Football?

• 2:05:19Speaker 04

  I want to be excited.

• 2:05:22Speaker 00

  Okay. Okay, you could.

• 2:05:24Speaker 05

  So what would make you excited?

• 2:05:26Speaker 00

  I like that. I know exactly what you're saying.

• 2:05:30Speaker 04

  I want to be excited.

• 2:05:31Speaker 00

  You want to feel something.

• 2:05:34Speaker 04

  Yeah, I want to feel something. I think the defense can make me feel something. The fact that Devante Smith and Dontavion Wicks are both not playing in this game is a problem.

• 2:05:45Speaker 00

  Oh, that's ugly.

• 2:05:47Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 2:05:47Speaker 00

  Is Saquon back?

• 2:05:48Speaker 04

  Saquon is going to play.

• 2:05:50Speaker 05

  Maybe Jalen Carter, Dak get into it right off the bat?

• 2:05:54Speaker 00

  It's also, it's the Cowboys. You hate the Cowboys.

• 2:05:57Speaker 04

  I know, I hate the Cowboys. And if they win, the season's back on for, for the time being.

• 2:06:03Speaker 00

  Facts. Path to victories.

• 2:06:05Speaker 04

  Defense.

• 2:06:07Speaker 00

  Defense.

• 2:06:08Speaker 04

  Defense.

• 2:06:08Speaker 00

  So much defense.

• 2:06:10Speaker 04

  Saquon, like, we just, we just find a way to get Saquon the ball. Like, he catches, he has like 80 yards receiving.

• 2:06:18Speaker 00

  This is something to be excited about. You know that you have to, you're underdogs in your own house and you have to muck this thing up.

• 2:06:27Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 2:06:27Speaker 00

  That's exciting.

• 2:06:28Speaker 04

  That's how, that's how you, like, win this game.

• 2:06:30Speaker 00

  You gotta get dirty.

• 2:06:31Speaker 04

  Real, like, like in the middle of like a swamp.

• 2:06:34Speaker 00

  Right.

• 2:06:35Speaker 04

  Like you're fly fishing in a swamp.

• 2:06:36Speaker 00

  That's, so when, last year, remember you would get mad at us because you were like, the Eagles games are brutal to watch. Like, I don't care, they're winning. Cause you knew deep down, it's like, this offense should be better. It's a brutal watch.

• 2:06:49Speaker 04

  Now it's offensive.

• 2:06:50Speaker 00

  Now it's like, you don't even, you might not even try to have an offense.

• 2:06:54Speaker 04

  No.

• 2:06:55Speaker 00

  Just defense. The uglier, the better.

• 2:06:59Speaker 05

  Make them play your game.

• 2:06:59Speaker 00

  The uglier, the better.

• 2:07:00Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 2:07:01Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:07:01Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 2:07:02Speaker 00

  Yeah, which is kind of exciting. Like, no one's going to say, ew, this Eagles offense is so bad. It's like, yeah, you know, like, there's, you got no one on offense. You're starting a backup quarterback. Everyone expects it to suck. Just get out there and suck even more and then play great defense.

• 2:07:19Speaker 05

  Max, you know as well as anybody, how much joy Dallas Cowboys, Dallas Cowboys primetime implosions give America.

• 2:07:28Speaker 04

  Yeah, if Dak threw like four picks, that would be awesome.

• 2:07:30Speaker 05

  Yeah. How awesome are those games? When, when things go sideways for the Cowboys and you're thinking to yourself, they're going to blow the entire team.

• 2:07:39Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:07:40Speaker 05

  Like Jerry's going to come down the sidelines and he's, he's physically going to stab.

• 2:07:44Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:07:45Speaker 05

  Schottenheimer in the back like Monica Seles.

• 2:07:47Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:07:48Speaker 05

  Like, those are the games that America loves.

• 2:07:50Speaker 00

  Jerry's going to have a fucking full-blown meltdown.

• 2:07:53Speaker 05

  Yeah, like, I can't wait for Jerry's, uh, radio hit that he does this week. I, I want, I want it to be that kind of game.

• 2:07:58Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 2:07:58Speaker 05

  I want Troy Aikman to get embarrassed in the booth of his name ever being associated with the Dallas Cowboys.

• 2:08:04Speaker 04

  Yep.

• 2:08:04Speaker 05

  I want Joe Buck to be like dancing around Troy's.

• 2:08:07Speaker 04

  You're doing a good job right now.

• 2:08:08Speaker 05

  Yeah, this is, this is what's on the line for us tonight.

• 2:08:10Speaker 00

  Max, you need to win this game.

• 2:08:14Speaker 00

  13 to 10, and I want no more than 72 passing yards from Tanner.

• 2:08:23Speaker 00

  That's how ugly I want it. You're going to have to get a pick six.

• 2:08:27Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 2:08:27Speaker 00

  And then, and then two solid, two solid, like.

• 2:08:32Speaker 04

  No, Saquon has to break one. It's going to be like.

• 2:08:34Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:08:34Speaker 04

  12 runs of like two.

• 2:08:36Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah. That'll be a field goal drive. Saquon's got to break one for an awesome, long field goal drive.

• 2:08:43Speaker 00

  Saquon's going to break a 40-yarder and you're still going to have to kick like a 57-yard field goal.

• 2:08:49Speaker 00

  You got this.

• 2:08:50Speaker 04

  I don't love that Sirianni potentially said that they might just shut Devante Smith down.

• 2:08:56Speaker 00

  You guys are kind of just not even quiet quitting, just loudly quitting.

• 2:08:59Speaker 04

  If you should, they're thinking about taking Devante Smith out for the year for a hamstring. He played last week on the hamstring and this week Nick Sirianni was like, yeah, may just shut him down.

• 2:09:11Speaker 05

  That's the thing about the Eagles. They do always to their credit.

• 2:09:13Speaker 04

  What does that mean?

• 2:09:14Speaker 05

  They know when to give up on the season.

• 2:09:15Speaker 00

  Yeah, they do.

• 2:09:16Speaker 05

  Like even though this is a year when they could still win that division, um, the Eagles are always like, we don't want to win. This is a year, even though we could conceivably be NFC East champions, it's frankly beneath us to win this division. So let's just, let's cut our losses.

• 2:09:31Speaker 00

  Hank Eagles?

• 2:09:34Speaker 04

  Nah, under.

• 2:09:36Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:09:36Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 2:09:38Speaker 05

  That's as good as Eagles.

• 2:09:39Speaker 04

  Under is, under is Eagles.

• 2:09:42Speaker 00

  Alternate under 22.

• 2:09:45Speaker 05

  What about, what about Cole Payton? I've kind of talked myself into wanting to see what Cole Payton looks like.

• 2:09:51Speaker 04

  Not, not Bazooka Joe.

• 2:09:52Speaker 05

  I mean, I, I already know that I love Joe Milton. I might also love Cole Payton. I don't know.

• 2:09:57Speaker 04

  Cole Payton, they say, from what they say, is just hay some hell.

• 2:10:01Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 2:10:02Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:10:02Speaker 00

  That's fun. That actually would work in a game like this.

• 2:10:05Speaker 04

  Yeah. Yeah.

• 2:10:06Speaker 05

  That's, that's, that's a good point. Essentially the perfect player to win this game.

• 2:10:09Speaker 04

  That's the problem with Tanner McKee right now is that he has zero mobility and this offensive line stinks.

• 2:10:15Speaker 00

  Okay. So let's get Cole Payton in there.

• 2:10:17Speaker 04

  Cole Payton could move around a little bit.

• 2:10:19Speaker 00

  Get him in there.

• 2:10:20Speaker 05

  Just run through somebody's face.

• 2:10:23Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 2:10:23Speaker 05

  That defense is soft, Max. The Cowboys defense is soft.

• 2:10:25Speaker 04

  Let's muck it up. Let's get fucking muck.

• 2:10:28Speaker 00

  Gross.

• 2:10:29Speaker 05

  I want to see, I want to see Zach Bond getting into a fistfight with George Pickens.

• 2:10:32Speaker 04

  I love Zach Bond.

• 2:10:35Speaker 00

  This is good, Max.

• 2:10:36Speaker 05

  I wanted to be so bad that actually up in the booth, it, it does come to blows between Joe and Troy.

• 2:10:42Speaker 00

  Joe would fuck.

• 2:10:42Speaker 04

  Yeah, let's muck it up.

• 2:10:44Speaker 00

  Joe would fuck Troy.

• 2:10:45Speaker 05

  When I read that, that news, I was like, it almost came to blows.

• 2:10:48Speaker 04

  Joe Buck almost kicked Troy's ass?

• 2:10:51Speaker 05

  Damn.

• 2:10:52Speaker 00

  Joe would mess him up. Bad. We all agree, right?

• 2:10:56Speaker 04

  Joe's a scrapper.

• 2:10:57Speaker 00

  Yeah. Uh, all right. Let's do who's back of the week and send everyone on their way. Who's back of the week? It's football season and we've never been more ready for game day. We're bringing Twisted Tea along for the ride all season long. Twisted Tea is a refreshing hard iced tea made with real brewed tea and 5% alcohol. The Twisted Tea Party Pack has a little something for everyone with original half and half raspberry and peach. Whether you're tailgating at the stadium, crushing teas in your man cave or grilling out with friends, Twisted Tea is there to turn your day up a notch and make a good time, a great time. Twisted Tea is the absolute best. Grab a refreshing twisting tea, refreshing twisted tea today. Keep it twisted with Twisted Tea. Henry?

• 2:11:38Speaker 06

  Uh, my who's back of the week, sports equinox.

• 2:11:42Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:11:43Speaker 06

  Today, Monday.

• 2:11:45Speaker 05

  Yeah. Clocks. I hope you set your clocks.

• 2:11:47Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:11:48Speaker 06

  Daylight savings time is gone. Sports Equinox is back today for major sports.

• 2:11:56Speaker 06

  So get excited. It's exciting. We're a sports podcast.

• 2:11:59Speaker 04

  Didn't we have, oh, major sports. Got it. Got it. Got it.

• 2:12:01Speaker 00

  For major sports.

• 2:12:02Speaker 04

  Nevermind, nevermind.

• 2:12:03Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:12:04Speaker 04

  Cause I was gonna say Saturday there was football, but it's college football.

• 2:12:06Speaker 00

  Will we be releasing a pick on every game?

• 2:12:08Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 2:12:08Speaker 00

  Okay. Love that.

• 2:12:09Speaker 06

  Yeah. Get back in the lab. Yeah.

• 2:12:12Speaker 05

  We've got a special sports hungry equinox.

• 2:12:15Speaker 06

  Maybe.

• 2:12:15Speaker 00

  Should we talk about the world series real quick?

• 2:12:17Speaker 06

  Yeah. Well, that's my other one was going to be just the state of Wisconsin.

• 2:12:21Speaker 00

  Yeah. Well, the Packers lost.

• 2:12:23Speaker 06

  True. I was gonna say between that, the White Sox panic shows.

• 2:12:27Speaker 00

  Yeah. Badgers.

• 2:12:28Speaker 06

  Badgers.

• 2:12:29Speaker 00

  Embarrass Lincoln Riley.

• 2:12:29Speaker 06

  And the Brewers.

• 2:12:32Speaker 04

  Stinking.

• 2:12:32Speaker 06

  Great weekend for Wisconsin.

• 2:12:34Speaker 05

  Lincoln Riley. See ya. See ya. Stinking.

• 2:12:36Speaker 00

  Can you find the coward clip?

• 2:12:38Speaker 04

  My favorite.

• 2:12:40Speaker 00

  Oh, you're all in big trouble. Now that Lincoln Riley's here with the west coast and LA.

• 2:12:49Speaker 05

  I love that. Coward's show is strictly based on vibes. He's like Southern California.

• 2:12:55Speaker 00

  Southern California.

• 2:12:57Speaker 05

  Young points.

• 2:12:59Speaker 00

  Lincoln Riley.

• 2:13:01Speaker 05

  And it's California. Movies.

• 2:13:04Speaker 06

  That was just Trump.

• 2:13:06Speaker 00

  Uh, uh, yeah, that Saturday night though. Yeah. I mean, here we go. This is, I love this video. I'm, I'm mad at myself for not tweeting it out after the Badgers just manhandled. Here we go.

• 2:13:23Speaker 04

  Some of you guys are gonna owe Lincoln Riley an apology.

• 2:13:30Speaker 04

  I don't know if these big 10 teams can handle coming out west, the sunshine, the distractions of LA. Probably not.

• 2:13:40Speaker 04

  Look at the halftime score on a Cosm. Oh, they're in a commercial, whatever. I don't hold grudges. Apologies accepted.

• 2:13:49Speaker 00

  Probably not. They scored seven points.

• 2:13:53Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:13:53Speaker 00

  Badgers.

• 2:13:53Speaker 05

  Terrible.

• 2:13:54Speaker 00

  Do you know what? Max, Badgers won. I think, uh, Colton Joseph had 52 yards passing.

• 2:14:01Speaker 04

  Muck.

• 2:14:02Speaker 00

  Yeah. We mucked it. Mucked it.

• 2:14:04Speaker 05

  Muck bang.

• 2:14:05Speaker 00

  But yeah, the, the Brewers, uh, the Brewers are the best team in baseball. They are. It's crazy to watch them. They just never flinch. They went down four, nothing in game two. And you're like, ah, whatever. They'll just score their runs late in the game like they always do. Sal Frelick, uh, absolute bomb. They force teams to make mistakes. They force teams to panic. We had the worst, that was one of the worst sends of all times. Max, do you, do you see that send of Liam Hicks?

• 2:14:35Speaker 04

  That preposterous.

• 2:14:38Speaker 00

  Like it was so short, like the, the ball was.

• 2:14:41Speaker 04

  It wasn't even, it was just like an average throw. He just like kind of routinely threw it home.

• 2:14:46Speaker 00

  And Liam Hicks is slow, but that's what the Brewers do. They're so good. They make you do, they, they make you press to a point that like you're gonna try to make mistakes. They, the Rays did it on, uh, Friday night as well. They had, it was, I think it was Diaz was up, guy on second, one out or two outs. Miz is still pitching. Miz and Contreras as a pitcher catcher combo have given up three stolen bases all year. And they try to steal third base with one of your best bats up. Your third out, it's literally what you're taught and literally don't make the first or third out at third base.

• 2:15:25Speaker 00

  And that's what they, they make you like, they force you to get out of your comfort zone and, and press to a point that you make mistakes. That was so bad.

• 2:15:35Speaker 04

  That was so dumb. It's the only thing that can happen. Let, let your best players go win you the game. Why are you going to force a situation that doesn't even fucking help you?

• 2:15:46Speaker 00

  The only.

• 2:15:46Speaker 04

  Diaz can bring him in.

• 2:15:47Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:15:47Speaker 04

  From second.

• 2:15:48Speaker 00

  The.

• 2:15:48Speaker 04

  Why do you need him on third?

• 2:15:49Speaker 00

  The only thing you're trying to do is be like, oh, well, if there's a wild pitch. Okay. Whatever.

• 2:15:55Speaker 04

  But it's like.

• 2:15:55Speaker 00

  Yeah. It makes no sense.

• 2:15:56Speaker 04

  Mizerowski's on the mound like Mizer.

• 2:15:58Speaker 00

  Yeah. No, Contreras has an absolute cannon. He throws everyone out. And so that's, that's been the story through like the first two games is that I don't even think the Brewers have played like perfect baseball. They haven't, you know, like Miz wasn't super, super sharp. And then, and then Logan Henderson wasn't suit, he gave up, you know, four runs in the first, but it doesn't matter because they just keep on like pushing you, pushing you, pushing you. They, they are never out of it. And they also have that rare like championship quality that I don't know if this is statistically can be proven. But just from vibes, if you score on the Brewers, they always score that half inning.

• 2:16:38Speaker 00

  Like they just always answer. It doesn't have to be that like the, the, the Rays come out and score four runs in the top of the first, Brewers score two runs right after, like they always answer, which is such a, a championship quality of a team. Where it's like, you feel like you had a big inning and then they immediately suck it out, like suck the air out of your momentum.

• 2:16:57Speaker 05

  What do you guys think of the Yandy Diaz check swing? Because a couple of things, a couple of things happened with it. One, I think to me, they made the right call. That he went and that, that he's out. What you're saying?

• 2:17:10Speaker 06

  Agreed.

• 2:17:10Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:17:11Speaker 05

  Right? And so when you, when you see the side angle, when you see the above angle, it does look like, yes, that's a swing. Good call. Strike three. See ya. And then they show what would, would have looked like under the instant replay system that they've tested out in the minor leagues. And the replay system they have for check swings does not look like what I've ever thought a check swing is.

• 2:17:31Speaker 04

  Agreed.

• 2:17:32Speaker 05

  Like what, what is the new line? When I saw that.

• 2:17:34Speaker 04

  That's a full swing.

• 2:17:35Speaker 05

  I thought somebody was fucking with me. Like that's.

• 2:17:37Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's not it. That's, that's a full swing.

• 2:17:39Speaker 05

  Has the swing, was it ever like written in baseball that if it's parallel with home plate, then that's, that counts as a swing? Because that's what I had to always, always thought.

• 2:17:48Speaker 00

  Well, and also wrists. Like if you, if you.

• 2:17:52Speaker 04

  I always thought it was pass, it was if.

• 2:17:54Speaker 05

  Pass the plate, right? Yeah. Parallel with the plate. That's what I thought the rule was. And apparently that's just not the rule anymore. If they ever bring this system to major league baseball.

• 2:18:02Speaker 04

  I get.

• 2:18:03Speaker 05

  Like, like everything's a check swing.

• 2:18:04Speaker 04

  I get what, they changed it. If, if this is it, I get why they changed it. I'm just pissed that it seems like they're trying to make it feel like it's always been this way.

• 2:18:14Speaker 00

  Gaslight.

• 2:18:15Speaker 04

  When it hasn't been this way.

• 2:18:16Speaker 00

  That's not even close.

• 2:18:16Speaker 04

  Pitchers are better now and you have to kind of start your swing no matter what. So I, I get why they're trying to, you know, how the, the game is very much pitcher friendly, pitcher friendly. So they're trying to make things a little bit more hitter friendly. But don't try and gaslight us into being like, this is always what it, what it's been.

• 2:18:36Speaker 00

  That's a, that's, that's a three quarters of a swing.

• 2:18:39Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 2:18:40Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:18:40Speaker 00

  That makes no sense.

• 2:18:41Speaker 05

  Which, yeah, may, maybe they did tell us and we missed it. I don't know. Cause I'm with you, Max. Like if you explain, we've had to change the rule a little bit. Here's why.

• 2:18:50Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:18:51Speaker 05

  Get ready for it because we're going to give a little bit more grace to, uh, to a check swing. Sure. But I, I haven't heard that.

• 2:19:00Speaker 00

  I kinda want.

• 2:19:00Speaker 04

  I'm on your side.

• 2:19:01Speaker 00

  I kinda don't. It'd be nice if, yeah, I don't know how they're gonna do, are they gonna do it like, I mean, it's gonna happen next year. They're gonna do ABS for check swings, 100%.

• 2:19:13Speaker 00

  I wonder if it will be like, you have to check, or if they just automatically check.

• 2:19:18Speaker 05

  Also don't love Gandy Diaz's eye black situation, this guy.

• 2:19:21Speaker 00

  You know, he just draws all over his face.

• 2:19:22Speaker 05

  It's weird.

• 2:19:23Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:19:23Speaker 05

  It's like inverted eye black. It's like, the only place that doesn't have eye black is the place where you usually would.

• 2:19:29Speaker 00

  Yeah. I do think the Rays, I think it's still gonna be a series. I think the Brewers are gonna win the World Series, but I think that the Rays are gonna win game three.

• 2:19:40Speaker 04

  I think Brewers win five.

• 2:19:42Speaker 00

  Yeah, I mean, they've only lost one game, but I, I mean, Freddy Peralta is, that's a bonus to be able to, he's their second best pitcher. I think they held him back, well, he pitched game six of the ALCS, but I think they also kinda didn't wanna play him in Milwaukee. They didn't wanna pitch him in Milwaukee, cuz of like, just.

• 2:19:59Speaker 04

  Trop's gotta show up like they did.

• 2:20:00Speaker 00

  Trop's gotta show up. Trop's gotta show up. Who are the Brewers pitching? Cause that's the one thing, the Rays probably have better starting pitching. The Brewers bullpen is incredible.

• 2:20:10Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:20:10Speaker 00

  And been incredible. And the Rays bullpen is, it's Baker at the end, but soft in the middle.

• 2:20:17Speaker 05

  They've been behind in nine out of 10 games.

• 2:20:19Speaker 00

  Gassers.

• 2:20:20Speaker 05

  And they've won eight.

• 2:20:21Speaker 00

  Yeah. They just always answer. It's, it's, it's, I, listen, I'm happy I stopped fighting it like, two weeks ago. It, they're just, they're the best team in baseball. They're, and they have that vibe to them, like, Sal Frelick, he almost hit another one, too. That, that one he hit to the warning track. But Sal Frelick, like, being, they just have guys that will show up. And, and, and all of them are kinda dogs. Uh, Max, you went viral on baseball Twitter.

• 2:20:51Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 2:20:52Speaker 05

  Max is right, by the way.

• 2:20:53Speaker 00

  Yeah, he is.

• 2:20:53Speaker 04

  I didn't even say anything.

• 2:20:55Speaker 00

  Monday, or Friday night.

• 2:20:57Speaker 05

  You didn't, you didn't even have a take.

• 2:20:58Speaker 04

  I had no take. People got so mad.

• 2:20:59Speaker 00

  I, I hand up, I turned off the game, because I thought the game was over, because they hit the fireworks. And I was watching a football game, I think, uh, and then I look back, like, 10 minutes later, I pulled, I pulled open Twitter. I was like, wait, it was 3-2?

• 2:21:15Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:21:16Speaker 00

  Uh, crazy. I don't like that they have this type of replay, because, like you said, Max, everyone, basically, the entire history of baseball, everyone has been safe. No one has been out.

• 2:21:30Speaker 05

  You mean, like, the way that the game has been played, if you went back and reviewed it on.

• 2:21:33Speaker 00

  Yes, yes. There's never been an out.

• 2:21:36Speaker 05

  My only qualm with Max's take, which was, if you were to grab replays from any game between 2000 to 2015, you would see middle infielders touch second base maybe 40% of the time on a double play. You were literally taught not to. Max is only wrong because that's kinda like, when he's been around baseball.

• 2:21:52Speaker 04

  Correct. That's why, yeah.

• 2:21:54Speaker 05

  100 years before that, I would say like, 1910 to 2015, it would be in the neighborhood, do a ghost tag on second base, because otherwise you're gonna get spiked in the knee.

• 2:22:04Speaker 04

  I feel like the 1910s, they were probably like, stretching at second base to try and get the out there, and like, didn't even know that you could turn two.

• 2:22:12Speaker 05

  Have you ever heard of tinkers to ever's chance, Max?

• 2:22:14Speaker 00

  Yeah, who turned the first double play?

• 2:22:16Speaker 05

  The greatest double play?

• 2:22:17Speaker 04

  No.

• 2:22:19Speaker 00

  Also, Max, you did, you, you should have also put like, uh, there should have been a community note being like, Max also rooting for Chase Utley. So that's, that's partially why.

• 2:22:27Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:22:28Speaker 00

  Guys should be trying to get out of the way.

• 2:22:30Speaker 05

  Chase Utley.

• 2:22:31Speaker 00

  Shadow tags.

• 2:22:32Speaker 04

  It's not even, I don't even think it's about that. It's about getting your momentum towards first base.

• 2:22:36Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah. It was stupid.

• 2:22:38Speaker 04

  I mean, it is about, it is.

• 2:22:39Speaker 05

  It's, no, it's about.

• 2:22:40Speaker 00

  But, like, in the spirit of the game, he's out.

• 2:22:43Speaker 04

  In the spirit of the game, he's out, but like, I don't really care. I was just saying. I was just, I was just saying.

• 2:22:48Speaker 05

  There's a couple of things that like, we're not meant to see stuff in super high definition. We don't, once you, once you can see things too well, there's a lot of ugly shit that you weren't supposed to even look at. Like, when you slide into second base, and let's say you're stealing second, the throw comes in, there's gonna be a millisecond, where after you hit second base, as your body's going into the bag, you come off the base for like, half of a blink of an eye. And if the glove's still on you, I guess legally, you're out, but you're not out.

• 2:23:14Speaker 04

  I agree with that, too.

• 2:23:15Speaker 05

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:23:17Speaker 04

  Whatever. It didn't cost the game.

• 2:23:19Speaker 05

  Yeah. This has just been us yelling about stuff that we can't control.

• 2:23:23Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:23:23Speaker 04

  Correct.

• 2:23:23Speaker 00

  Exactly. But it feels good to do that.

• 2:23:26Speaker 05

  It does.

• 2:23:26Speaker 00

  Like, it's therapeutic. That's how guys, the guys who go to therapy, they just yell about.

• 2:23:31Speaker 05

  Umpires.

• 2:23:31Speaker 00

  And check swings.

• 2:23:32Speaker 05

  Yeah. I'm, I am heated about the check swing.

• 2:23:35Speaker 00

  Yeah, I didn't realize, when you pulled that up, like, that's crazy.

• 2:23:39Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:23:39Speaker 00

  That's just, that's just a swing.

• 2:23:41Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:23:41Speaker 00

  That's a full swing.

• 2:23:42Speaker 05

  Every, yeah, you can check your swing and, like, on every swing. That's probably gonna be, some team is gonna, probably the Rays, are gonna be like, hey, with these new changes to the check swing rule, we're just gonna do check swings every at bat, every plate appearance. We'll never actually swing, but we will get some hits that end up being fair balls.

• 2:23:58Speaker 04

  Mm-hmm. I mean, with the way guys pitch now, you, you do have to start your swing on every pitch.

• 2:24:03Speaker 00

  Pitching 104.

• 2:24:04Speaker 04

  Like, that's the other thing. It's like, you're, you're supposed to go up there, yes, yes, yes, yes, no, yes, yes, yes, yes, no. Like.

• 2:24:10Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:24:11Speaker 04

  In your head, you're thinking, you're thinking swing, and you're starting your swing on every pitch, and then you just hold back.

• 2:24:16Speaker 05

  I got like, three notifications within about 15 minutes, like, Mizerowski kept throwing the fastest pitch ever thrown in a World Series game.

• 2:24:25Speaker 04

  Yeah, whatever. He's just, he's the alien.

• 2:24:28Speaker 05

  Yeah. You sound, what'd you, whatever, yeah.

• 2:24:32Speaker 04

  It's just like, that means, that means nothing, that, that, it's not exciting that Mizerowski breaks in another.

• 2:24:41Speaker 05

  I disagree.

• 2:24:41Speaker 04

  Like, velocity. You know it's gonna happen, so it's not.

• 2:24:44Speaker 00

  Pretty cool. I think it's 104.

• 2:24:46Speaker 05

  Yeah, it's pretty awesome.

• 2:24:47Speaker 04

  I get it, but it's not like, it's, holy shit, you expect it.

• 2:24:51Speaker 05

  No, it's literally holy shit, that guy threw 104 miles an hour.

• 2:24:53Speaker 04

  It's not like.

• 2:24:54Speaker 00

  I think it's, it's not cool, I'm not impressed in the first inning, when he was, I know he hasn't been going deep into games, uh, but like, in the fifth inning on Friday night, I think he knew Pat Murphy was gonna take him out, and he had his last batter, and he's like, I'm fucking just unloading, and that was kinda cool. Where he's like, 70 pitches in, he's like, I'm gonna throw it 140 miles an hour. I'm impressed by that.

• 2:25:18Speaker 05

  I'm excited.

• 2:25:19Speaker 04

  Doing it all year. It's not like something you've never seen before.

• 2:25:22Speaker 05

  I'm excited for game three, how many balls are gonna hit the roof?

• 2:25:25Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:25:26Speaker 05

  Can we bet on that?

• 2:25:28Speaker 00

  Which ring?

• 2:25:29Speaker 05

  Roof balls?

• 2:25:31Speaker 00

  A, B, or C?

• 2:25:31Speaker 05

  A ring.

• 2:25:32Speaker 00

  Or D?

• 2:25:33Speaker 05

  The O-ring. Shout out, shout out, Hank.

• 2:25:35Speaker 00

  Challenger. All right, PFT, you're who's back. Good, good, uh, World Series, it's been, I mean, those were two very exciting, I'll say this, the Brewers have been dominating everyone, but they have been playing exciting games, cuz they just go down and then they come back.

• 2:25:47Speaker 05

  For sure.

• 2:25:48Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:25:49Speaker 05

  Uh, my who's back of the week is the NBA Cup. NBA Cup this Friday. I'm excited. Courts are gonna be different colored.

• 2:25:56Speaker 04

  Qualifiers.

• 2:25:57Speaker 05

  That's about it.

• 2:25:57Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:25:58Speaker 05

  What do you mean?

• 2:26:00Speaker 05

  It's group stage.

• 2:26:04Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 2:26:05Speaker 05

  NBA Cup group stage starts Friday, right?

• 2:26:07Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 2:26:07Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:26:08Speaker 04

  It's not the actual cup, though. It's just the.

• 2:26:10Speaker 05

  No, it's the group stage of the cup. It's like the World Cup. You have to, you have to advance out of your group. Some people are in the group of death, Big Cat.

• 2:26:18Speaker 05

  Some people are in the group of life, Max, easy stuff.

• 2:26:23Speaker 04

  Fuck, yeah.

• 2:26:24Speaker 05

  I think, I mean, I think it's the Bulls and Celtics and the Wizards in the same group this year?

• 2:26:29Speaker 04

  Yeah, we got the Bulls Friday.

• 2:26:30Speaker 05

  Group of death, yeah. Group of death. So, yeah, NBA Cup. If you win the NBA Cup, you get to the NBA Finals.

• 2:26:36Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:26:36Speaker 05

  That's how it works every year.

• 2:26:38Speaker 04

  Mm-hmm. Only one team's been able to win it. Both.

• 2:26:42Speaker 05

  Memes, are the Knicks okay?

• 2:26:45Speaker 04

  Eh, McHale's still drunk.

• 2:26:47Speaker 05

  Okay?

• 2:26:48Speaker 04

  That's it. Once he, once McHale is back, we'll be good. We lost to the Kings last year.

• 2:26:55Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 2:26:56Speaker 04

  It's a regular season.

• 2:26:57Speaker 05

  How, how, how winless do you have to go before you start to feel a little panicked?

• 2:27:03Speaker 04

  I think 10.

• 2:27:04Speaker 05

  You think, 0-10 at that point?

• 2:27:06Speaker 04

  0-10, it's like, alright, we, something's going on.

• 2:27:09Speaker 05

  But 0-9, you're good.

• 2:27:11Speaker 04

  Yeah, 0-9, I'm chilling.

• 2:27:12Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 2:27:12Speaker 04

  McHale's just, that, that, that was the formula last year. McHale plays bad, you lose. McHale plays good, you win.

• 2:27:19Speaker 00

  The Sixers, 3-0, Max?

• 2:27:21Speaker 04

  Nah, I lost today.

• 2:27:22Speaker 05

  Hmm.

• 2:27:23Speaker 04

  No bigs, they're, all the bigs were hurt.

• 2:27:24Speaker 05

  Okay, so you're 2-1?

• 2:27:26Speaker 04

  2-1.

• 2:27:26Speaker 05

  So, pretty good record.

• 2:27:29Speaker 04

  Yeah. Played a lot of good teams.

• 2:27:31Speaker 05

  Yeah. 2-1 at this point, that's basically all you can ask for.

• 2:27:37Speaker 00

  No one's biting on you, wanting to, you wanna bring up the Wizards?

• 2:27:40Speaker 05

  No, no, no.

• 2:27:41Speaker 04

  No.

• 2:27:42Speaker 00

  Alright.

• 2:27:43Speaker 05

  Definitely not.

• 2:27:45Speaker 00

  What's the Wizards' record?

• 2:27:47Speaker 05

  I don't know. Maybe, Max, can you check, check that for me, maybe? I was sitting, I was sitting so far away, I didn't get to see if they won or not.

• 2:27:54Speaker 04

  Are we just gonna do this every time?

• 2:27:55Speaker 05

  No, just, I didn't bring it up.

• 2:27:57Speaker 04

  You beat the Bulls and the Bucks.

• 2:27:59Speaker 00

  Bulls are bad. Kyle Wilson's good, though.

• 2:28:02Speaker 04

  Wow, top 8 seed, nice.

• 2:28:04Speaker 00

  What, what's your record, PFT? You're 2-1?

• 2:28:06Speaker 05

  It says we're 2-1.

• 2:28:06Speaker 00

  Oh, there you go.

• 2:28:07Speaker 05

  Let's see, that's a great record.

• 2:28:10Speaker 00

  Alright, my, uh, who's back of the week is Liv Golf.

• 2:28:17Speaker 05

  Oh, God.

• 2:28:20Speaker 00

  Hank?

• 2:28:21Speaker 04

  Yeah, I don't, this is like, I had way too much, way too much me. I don't wanna, like, I haven't wanted to say anything on this show, I just want that for the record.

• 2:28:28Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:28:29Speaker 04

  Uh.

• 2:28:29Speaker 00

  The list of domains Liv owns has been released.

• 2:28:33Speaker 04

  This is common business practice.

• 2:28:35Speaker 00

  So, here's a couple of them. Uh, these are domains that Liv Golf has purchased.

• 2:28:41Speaker 04

  Well, this is all, like, all the bankruptcy, court filings got released. There was a bunch of stuff, a bunch of the payouts. Honestly, the payouts, it seems like they were not making what they said they were making.

• 2:28:51Speaker 00

  Yeah, I'd agree with that.

• 2:28:52Speaker 04

  Like, they were all like, 200 million, 100 million. It's like, they got paid like, 5 million, 10 million. Like, I don't know where the rest of that money is. But, there was a ton of.

• 2:29:01Speaker 06

  Documents and shit that came out from these bankruptcy filings.

• 2:29:04Speaker 00

  Mm hmm.

• 2:29:05Speaker 06

  One of them being.

• 2:29:06Speaker 00

  The domains, uh, so some of the domains they brought, they purchased were fuck live golf. Fuck live golf league.com.

• 2:29:16Speaker 00

  Fuck, fuck live golf league.org. Uh, terrorist golf league.org, terrorist golf.com, terrorist golf league.com. Uh, some good stuff in here.

• 2:29:33Speaker 00

  Fuck live golf league.com. And then it's like written out fuck, fuck live golf invitational.org.

• 2:29:39Speaker 04

  Golf corruption.com. Golf fraud.com. I hate live golf.com. Golf money grab.com.

• 2:29:49Speaker 00

  Golf greed.com.

• 2:29:51Speaker 04

  Fuck live golf invitational.com. Is there a live golf invitational?

• 2:29:56Speaker 00

  I don't think so. How golf frauds.com.

• 2:29:59Speaker 05

  How do you think they came up with this list?

• 2:30:01Speaker 00

  I don't know. It's very, very funny.

• 2:30:04Speaker 05

  Do they pay a lawyer?

• 2:30:05Speaker 00

  fraudulent golf.com.

• 2:30:09Speaker 04

  Evil live golf.

• 2:30:13Speaker 05

  Is this like they, they just locked themselves in a room and they just.

• 2:30:17Speaker 00

  How could they get us?

• 2:30:18Speaker 05

  Put themselves in the mind of a troll?

• 2:30:19Speaker 04

  What is Cleeks Golf Club?

• 2:30:21Speaker 06

  Dude, that's one of the teams.

• 2:30:23Speaker 05

  Come on, Max, you knew that.

• 2:30:24Speaker 00

  Max, come on, dude.

• 2:30:26Speaker 06

  Fucking serious?

• 2:30:26Speaker 05

  I mean, there are no range goats, but.

• 2:30:28Speaker 00

  Come on, Max.

• 2:30:29Speaker 06

  The British, the British Fogley, Westwood.

• 2:30:31Speaker 05

  Are the crushers?

• 2:30:32Speaker 06

  I think.

• 2:30:34Speaker 00

  Oh, all right.

• 2:30:35Speaker 06

  I, but this is common business practice.

• 2:30:37Speaker 00

  Yeah, common business practice.

• 2:30:38Speaker 06

  It is.

• 2:30:39Speaker 00

  Yeah, no, no.

• 2:30:40Speaker 05

  How, do we own, uh, fuck, uh, Barstool?

• 2:30:42Speaker 06

  I guarantee Barstool has a, a ton of.

• 2:30:45Speaker 00

  We probably do.

• 2:30:46Speaker 06

  Ton of domains.

• 2:30:47Speaker 00

  We probably do. You're probably right about that, but it is still funny. Can you agree with that?

• 2:30:51Speaker 06

  Yeah. Oh, the, the, the list is hilarious.

• 2:30:53Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's, that's just good. Golf fraud.com.

• 2:30:59Speaker 00

  Oh, man. All right. Good show, boys. We got a lot of good college football to talk about on Wednesday. Lot of good college. There was, it's basically every week in the college football is, uh, just pick a league. That's, that's the week the league's gonna like their demise. This week it was the big 12.

• 2:31:18Speaker 05

  Yeah, big 12 was. Tough, tough day, but they, they were like, there were companion games this week, which is great. Cause you, it's like, we got to watch the Indiana, Michigan game twice.

• 2:31:27Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:31:27Speaker 05

  With the Iowa, Minnesota game.

• 2:31:29Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:31:29Speaker 05

  And then we got to watch, uh, Tennessee, South Carolina twice because BYU, UCF was pretty much the same game.

• 2:31:36Speaker 00

  Well, uh, I have also a take I'm gonna unveil on Wednesday that's not gonna be. I, I'm starting to come around on 24 and I don't like it. Um, you're gonna have to talk me off the ledge.

• 2:31:49Speaker 05

  It's not good.

• 2:31:50Speaker 00

  I know, but I'm starting to come around.

• 2:31:51Speaker 05

  Sell out cat.

• 2:31:52Speaker 00

  I, I, listen.

• 2:31:53Speaker 06

  Win one game against USC and it's like, ooh.

• 2:31:56Speaker 00

  No, no, no, that's actually not why. That's not why at all. It was actually watching Ole Miss Texas. And if Ole Miss loses another game, I want to see Trinidad Chambles play in the playoffs. That was my thought. Like, he's awesome to watch. He's so much fun.

• 2:32:11Speaker 05

  Sometimes good players.

• 2:32:12Speaker 00

  And it's like, that's, that was the, the game. Wisconsin is, I mean, we would get fucking murdered. We, we won a game with 52 passing yards.

• 2:32:19Speaker 05

  Sometimes good players don't make the playoffs and it's not all, not all wins and losses are on the quarterback.

• 2:32:23Speaker 00

  Listen, I agree, but I just was like, that, I gotta get it out of my head. I'll get it out of my head by Wednesday, but watching Trinidad Chambles and watching Ole Miss lose and then being like, you know what? I feel like Ole Miss could be ranked outside the top 12, but also remember what happened last year? They caught fire. They could beat anyone. Like, that is fun. I'll get it out of my head. Uh, what's this Max? What'd you pull up? The daily challenge?

• 2:32:47Speaker 04

  Well, no, we were just talking about domains.

• 2:32:49Speaker 00

  Oh yeah, Glenn's the tape scout.

• 2:32:51Speaker 05

  Yeah, no, I, I did also purchase, I mean, um, Shane purchased, uh, fucklinetapewatch.com, fuckhe'sstillrunning.com.

• 2:32:59Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. You should get used to in like the 2014 playoff, cause I think they're already talking about expanding it.

• 2:33:05Speaker 05

  He's still running fraud.com.

• 2:33:07Speaker 00

  Hank, I want to give you credit. You said before we were gonna tape the show that you were, uh, gonna be in a bad mood. You delivered.

• 2:33:14Speaker 06

  Thanks.

• 2:33:14Speaker 05

  Million percent. Hank, not a liar.

• 2:33:18Speaker 04

  Don't listen to him, Hank.

• 2:33:19Speaker 05

  20, nope.

• 2:33:20Speaker 06

  Yeah, memes, you're always in a bad mood. You get it.

• 2:33:27Speaker 05

  We go with.

• 2:33:28Speaker 00

  I like the, I like you just throwing out chubby at us. So you're not wrong.

• 2:33:32Speaker 06

  I know. You guys get mad.

• 2:33:34Speaker 00

  I didn't get mad at chubby. Chubby's funny.

• 2:33:37Speaker 06

  You denied it.

• 2:33:39Speaker 00

  No, I didn't. Memes said that I'm not chubby. I said I'm chubby.

• 2:33:42Speaker 04

  He's not, no.

• 2:33:43Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:33:44Speaker 04

  He's got a sauna and a full gym at home.

• 2:33:46Speaker 00

  A fucking strong. All right, numbers.

• 2:33:48Speaker 05

  18.

• 2:33:50Speaker 04

  Four.

• 2:33:50Speaker 05

  23.

• 2:33:51Speaker 06

  Zero.

• 2:33:53Speaker 05

  He.

• 2:33:53Speaker 04

  69.

• 2:33:55Speaker 05

  Nine, Tramell Jones.

• 2:33:56Speaker 00

  Three.

• 2:33:57Speaker 05

  Sound like a lot like fun.

• 2:33:59Speaker 04

  99.

• 2:34:04Speaker 00

  Can you turn it up a little?

• 2:34:29Speaker 00

  91.

• 2:34:32Speaker 00

  One more?

• 2:34:34Speaker 06

  Oh, you want one more?

• 2:34:38Speaker 05

  I meant lottery ball.

• 2:34:38Speaker 06

  Oh, my bad. I thought you meant.

• 2:34:40Speaker 05

  Maybe one more of those though.

• 2:34:48Speaker 00

  I can't wait for Friday.

• 2:34:50Speaker 05

  Oh yeah. Hank will be in a great mood.

• 2:34:56Speaker 00

  I'm, I'm a glintman. Guilty as charged. Usually he drops his tape on Friday.

• 2:35:01Speaker 04

  But he already did his tape for the last week.

• 2:35:05Speaker 00

  Now I know this Friday.

• 2:35:06Speaker 04

  Oh my God.

• 2:35:10Speaker 04

  Nothing.

• 2:35:11Speaker 00

  71. You don't think Glenn's gonna?

• 2:35:14Speaker 05

  I think Glenn will probably have something.

• 2:35:15Speaker 04

  Oh, he already did his rapid reaction.

• 2:35:17Speaker 05

  That was last week.

• 2:35:18Speaker 00

  Yeah, that was last week. That was last Friday.

• 2:35:19Speaker 05

  He always does one on a Friday.

• 2:35:20Speaker 00

  Yeah, right.

• 2:35:21Speaker 05

  It's honestly like an amazing turnaround that he did that.

• 2:35:23Speaker 04

  It wasn't, it was incredible.

• 2:35:25Speaker 00

  Right.

• 2:35:25Speaker 05

  Pretty incredible tape, but he's just a, he's a fucking machine.

• 2:35:29Speaker 00

  Hit us one more.

• 2:35:32Speaker 04

  One more lottery ball?

• 2:35:33Speaker 00

  No.

• 2:35:33Speaker 04

  No, no, no, no.

• 2:35:34Speaker 00

  Why not?

• 2:35:38Speaker 05

  Happy birthday, uh, to Michael Delente.

• 2:35:43Speaker 04

  How do you know that?

• 2:35:43Speaker 05

  Max, did you forget?

• 2:35:45Speaker 04

  No, I didn't.

• 2:35:45Speaker 05

  Happy birthday to Max's dad. Uh, happy birthday. Everyone say happy birthday. Hank, say happy birthday to Max's dad.

• 2:35:52Speaker 06

  Happy birthday, Mr. D.

• 2:35:54Speaker 04

  How did you know that?

• 2:35:55Speaker 00

  When's his birthday?

• 2:35:56Speaker 05

  Uh, Monday.

• 2:35:56Speaker 04

  It's Monday.

• 2:35:57Speaker 05

  Today. Happy birthday to Antonio Pierce. Happy birthday to Efton Chisholm. Happy birthday to Pat Sajak. Keep turning those numbers, buddy. Happy birthday, uh, on Tuesday to Fasoli. Happy birthday to Brady Quinn. Happy birthday, Ryan Flornoy. Happy birthday, Lonzo Ball.

• 2:36:15Speaker 00

  Ooh, Flornoy's Monday?

• 2:36:17Speaker 05

  Yep, Tuesday.

• 2:36:18Speaker 00

  Ah.

• 2:36:19Speaker 05

  Happy birthday, uh, Teddy Roosevelt. And happy birthday to Jack Lockwood, Hank's second cousin.

• 2:36:26Speaker 00

  Fuck it.

• 2:36:27Speaker 05

  Love you guys.

• 2:36:30Speaker 00

  Give us one more.

• 2:36:33Speaker 06

  He's still running.