Talking Football With Mike Florio, Bills New Stadium And HoF Speeches + Mt Rushmore Of Masculine Foods

Football is back again and we talk about one of the last weekends without football. Bills new stadium is finally here and every fan because a building inspector on Saturday night (00:00:00-00:20:55). Hall of Fame speeches, WNBA somehow stays in the news and Michael Block had a freak out (00:20:55-00:29:19). Who's back of the week including LIV golf, umps tossing players, Ben Simmons and more (00:29:19-00:51:06). Mike Florio joins the show to talk training camp storylines, who could be on the hot seat, the Vikings QB situation and more (00:51:06-01:47:03). We finish with Mt Rushmore of Masculine Foods. You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or Netflix. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/pardon-my-take https://barstool.link/pardon-my-take

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  Welcome to Pardon My Take presented by DraftKings. The crown is yours. Today is Monday, August 10th. And boys, we're so close to football being back.

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  Football's back. No, it's already back.

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  It's back.

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  It was the best Hall of Fame game ever.

• 3:11Speaker 00

  Yeah. People, I did have, I did see one.

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  Maybe the best preseason game ever.

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  I did see one straight tweet that made me laugh very hard. One diehard A W. I was like, how did you guys do a choose your own adventure for the best Hall of Fame game ever? And I'm going to say, I'm sorry. I apologize to the audience. We thought if there's ever a game that we could, you know, record before, we're going to, we're about to be in football season where we're here pretty much every hour. We're like, hey, this, this Panthers Cardinals game, we could take this one off. We can just choose your own. Boy, were we wrong. That game rocked.

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  Yeah.

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  Haynes King is him.

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  Listen.

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  And also injured now.

• 3:48Speaker 02

  If it wasn't Haynes King, like Carson Beck took the world by storm.

• 3:52Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 3:52Speaker 02

  Carson Beck was the best preseason quarterback I've ever seen. And then immediately passed the torch to Haynes, Haynes King, who let a great comeback drive at the very end.

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  Yep.

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  What a great game. Football was completely back. The field looked awesome. The logos looked awesome. The coaches looked awesome. Mike Tomlin had a little personality up in the booth.

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  Mike Tomlin, yep.

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  Mike Tomlin, like cracking a few jokes.

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  We're going to get to some more Mike Tomlin.

• 4:15Speaker 02

  We'll talk about Mike Tomlin in a second, but he, uh, Mike, Mike, he shocked me. I'll be honest. Mike Tomlin, when he made the transition to the booth, I was like, he's never been to me, a TV guy. He's always been a guy that I'm sure be a great football coach, great inside a locker room. But he was like, happy. He was loose. He was telling jokes.

• 4:32Speaker 00

  Yeah.

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  It was a good broadcast overall. Like I, I legitimately loved the Hall of Fame game.

• 4:37Speaker 00

  Yeah, it was great. The Hall of Fame speeches. I saw some clips of it. Uh, Adam Vinatieri, he was like, he was doing a roast.

• 4:46Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 4:46Speaker 00

  He was having fun talking about Pat McAfee holding his balls.

• 4:49Speaker 02

  Yeah.

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  Roasting Jordan, which I didn't like that.

• 4:53Speaker 02

  Roasting, yeah, Belichick.

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  Did you see that clip, Hank?

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  I did not.

• 4:55Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah.

• 4:56Speaker 02

  Vinatieri.

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  It was not, it was not nice.

• 4:59Speaker 02

  I know when you go to the, to the Hall of Fame, you don't go as a team. Like you don't, it's not like baseball where you have to wear a logo of one of the teams. But if Vinatieri had to pick, clearly a cult. Like he was wearing Jim Ursay's tie. He was talking about the Colts the entire time.

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  He's roasting Belichick.

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  Making fun of Belichick. He, Vinatieri in his mind is a cult.

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  Can we pull, Max, you pull up the Adam Vinatieri speech where he roasted Belichick? He's, he's struggling. Max, Max.

• 5:27Speaker 03

  Well, I got, I got curious about how many seasons he played in both of them.

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  Let's, let's give Max a little grace today. He had a travel day from hell. Both our boys.

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  Not great.

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  Hank and Max had travel days from hell.

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  No one cares about a bad travel. They were here.

• 5:42Speaker 00

  Yeah. Yeah, we're here. We're here. Uh, okay. Here it is, Hank. So you can hear it for the first time. Tell us your thoughts.

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  I would repeat those last few statements about Coach Bill Belichick as well. Thank you for demanding excellence every single day. Your preparation, discipline, and attention to detail shaped far more than my football career.

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  Very nice.

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  Unfortunately, Bill couldn't make it here today. There's a lot going on at UNC right now.

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  He may be on a recruiting trip right now looking for the next Lawrence Taylor. I thought it was because training camp had already started, but in truth, it's because he's judging his girlfriend's cheerleading competition.

• 6:22Speaker 02

  He's not judging. That's, that's just not true.

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  Also, you could tell that.

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  He's, he's supporting his girlfriend's cheerleading competition.

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  You could tell Vinatieri was a little nervous to say that line because he kind of stumbled over. He's like, ah, shit, should I really do this?

• 6:34Speaker 02

  Yeah. He'd been, he'd been rehearsing that one. He felt good about it. Uh.

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  And this is the Hall of Fame that Belichick should be in. He should be giving a speech there.

• 6:44Speaker 02

  That's true. That's bullshit.

• 6:45Speaker 00

  That's true. This is, this is the year that he, he should have been in. So next year, I was looking at the list for next year. It's going to be. Is it Brady and Belichick?

• 6:54Speaker 02

  Let's see. No, I don't think so.

• 6:57Speaker 00

  Okay. I don't know. All the years blend together.

• 6:59Speaker 02

  Yeah, but it's a good, good class.

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  2022.

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  Let's see.

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  Okay.

• 7:05Speaker 02

  Max, can you pull it up?

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  Roethlisberger, Adrian Peterson, Gronk, Richard Sherman, Antonio Brown. Damn. Bill Belichick.

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  Yeah.

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  That is.

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  I'm going to predict that Antonio Brown gets left out.

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  And he, he is a Hall of Fame receiver, but yeah, he probably will get left out this one, this go around. But yeah, that's a, that's a stud class right there.

• 7:27Speaker 03

  Antonio Brown's speech will be must watch.

• 7:29Speaker 00

  Oh, my God.

• 7:30Speaker 02

  Yeah.

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  That was.

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  That will be.

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  Incredible.

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  Mr. Brown, we need you to sit for your bust.

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  Oh, man.

• 7:37Speaker 02

  Okay. I got you.

• 7:38Speaker 00

  Yeah. Uh, okay. The, uh, the other news. So PFT, Larry Tunsil injured. We've, we talked about this on, I think Friday's show. Like, yeah, there is nothing crueler than training camp injuries. It just sucks. Turn injuries off, get us to the season. What was going through your mind when you got the news?

• 7:56Speaker 02

  I saw the video. It was like, I don't know who took the video, but it was the grainiest cross field zoom in on like a, a T9 cell phone that you ever, it was taken on Motorola, Motorola Razr circa 2002, I think. Uh, and then I had to study the pixels of that to figure out whether it was a stinger, a dislocation, a bicep, or as it turned out to be a tricep, which sucks. So he's out probably for the year. I know people are saying he's out for a long time. If you're an offensive tackle and you tear your tricep, you're, you're pretty much done for the year.

• 8:27Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 8:28Speaker 02

  It doesn't, that's a pretty important muscle.

• 8:29Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 8:30Speaker 02

  To use at that position. So it sucks because we, we paid the guy. Uh, we traded a lot for him. He's a great player. He's always like top five offensive tackle in the league. So that sucks. Um, the good news is we do have Brandon Coleman, who's been moved around a lot. Brandon Coleman, uh, was the left tackle when we made it to the NFC championship game. So he's, he's a capable backup. And then we've got, uh, obviously Connerly, the first round pick from Oregon. On the other side, we might move him to left tackle and then Brandon Coleman, I don't know what we're going to do. There's also a chance that we just hit somebody else up.

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  I got a question.

• 9:03Speaker 02

  And be like, hey, I, I would like to see Taylor Decker get a call. I feel like he's itching for an invite. We got some cap space. Let's make it work.

• 9:11Speaker 00

  I got a question for you.

• 9:12Speaker 02

  What? And you, what'd you say on Twitter about that?

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  Yeah.

• 9:16Speaker 02

  About what? You're, you're, you're making proposals that I don't think you can like. Why? Honor. Why? Why not? You said on Twitter, you said, hey, Taylor Decker, come to DC. I'll give you my El Camino.

• 9:29Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 9:29Speaker 02

  Oh. What happens if the Wizards don't make the playoffs?

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  I said, it's all up for negotiation, including the El Camino.

• 9:35Speaker 02

  Hmm.

• 9:37Speaker 00

  So if he wants the El Camino to, to go to Taylor, I know that you're a listener of Pardon My Take.

• 9:41Speaker 02

  I.

• 9:41Speaker 00

  If you want the El Camino, it's yours. And then it'll be just a loan through the season. And then, uh, when it's time for Hank to get it, if the Wizards don't make the playoffs, all Hank has to do is go to your house and be like, hey, I'm here to pick up the El Camino and I'm sure you'll give it right to him. I think Hank's right though. I don't think you, that the El Camino is tied up in a bet right now.

• 10:00Speaker 02

  Well, if we want to play that game, the El Camino is kind of promised to Jaden Daniels.

• 10:04Speaker 00

  Yeah. So you have, you're a habitual just El Camino giver.

• 10:08Speaker 02

  Oh yeah. It's called football team giving.

• 10:11Speaker 00

  That's, that's not.

• 10:13Speaker 02

  Guardian giving, excuse me.

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  He's got.

• 10:16Speaker 04

  Jaden Daniels never accepted the El Camino.

• 10:19Speaker 02

  But if he wants it, it's his.

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  But it's tied up with Hank right now.

• 10:21Speaker 04

  But Hank accepted the El Camino.

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  No, no, no, no, he.

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  I put my body on the line.

• 10:26Speaker 02

  He accepted the bet.

• 10:27Speaker 04

  The claws of the El Camino.

• 10:29Speaker 02

  And I just said that it will be on loan with Mr. Decker if he wants it. That's only if he wants it. By the way, he hasn't accepted it yet. Okay, we're a long way away from that. It can be on loan for him as an enticement to go to the Washington commanders. And then at the end of the year, if we, you know, April comes around and the Wizards haven't reached one through eight seed in the East, then Hank, you just go to his house and be like, yes, Mr. Decker, I'm here to pick up my car from you.

• 10:56Speaker 04

  I feel like you would have to go get the car.

• 10:57Speaker 00

  Yeah, you'd have to get it.

• 10:58Speaker 02

  Okay, I'll go get the car. Deal.

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  But I think the El Camino is spoken for as of right now.

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  But I, I'd like to remind you guys again, this is, we're a long ways away from that.

• 11:06Speaker 00

  Of course, but it's still, it's, it's, it's, uh, you, you, you put it up into escrow.

• 11:11Speaker 04

  Ponzi scheme.

• 11:12Speaker 00

  Yeah, it's.

• 11:12Speaker 04

  You're doing a Ponzi scheme.

• 11:13Speaker 00

  You both put his body in your El Camino or an escrow. It's not Ponzi, it's escrow.

• 11:19Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's an escrow.

• 11:19Speaker 00

  You have to put it in, you have to put down your down payment and be like, hey, I'm good for this.

• 11:23Speaker 02

  But I, I, listen, I said it, and Hank, you can understand this. I wasn't thinking clearly when I said it. I got bad news about Larry Muntz, so I just started to lash out. I panicked, I lashed out and I'm just trying to, I initially I reached out to Trent Williams.

• 11:36Speaker 00

  It was a panic out there.

• 11:37Speaker 02

  And I was like, hey, man, if you want to get away from the substation, come on back home.

• 11:40Speaker 00

  Well, he actually needs a car.

• 11:41Speaker 02

  He does need a car.

• 11:42Speaker 00

  Yeah, he's not paying his Porsche payments.

• 11:44Speaker 02

  Yeah, he had a, he had a Porsche in 2021, allegedly didn't make a payment on it.

• 11:49Speaker 00

  No, he made two payments.

• 11:50Speaker 02

  Two payments.

• 11:51Speaker 00

  They didn't, then missed the next 240.

• 11:53Speaker 02

  And so he owes hundreds of thousands of dollars on the car.

• 11:56Speaker 00

  That feels like he just didn't get the bill.

• 11:58Speaker 02

  I, yeah, it cuts into the wrong house.

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  Yeah.

• 12:01Speaker 04

  Maybe his car, that he got a new car, the car that was set up for.

• 12:04Speaker 00

  Well, it's, it's like, uh, the auto payment, auto payment that Steven Che got his car repossessed on.

• 12:09Speaker 02

  Yeah.

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  Remember that?

• 12:11Speaker 02

  I'm a, I was just lashing out, Hank. I was casting a wide net. When you have a guy that important go down training camp, you just want, I needed something to fill that hole.

• 12:20Speaker 00

  Yeah, he wanted to just, he's a man of action.

• 12:22Speaker 02

  I need a big guy to fill that hole.

• 12:23Speaker 00

  There. A man of action. Uh, okay, so that, yeah, that sucks. So my question for you, and this is a debate that it's a shitty, no one likes training camp injuries. They all fucking suck. Is there anything to be said, I was thinking about this, I don't know why, but like, for it to be an injury that was most likely going to happen at some point versus a freak injury? Like a one-on-one pass drill injury?

• 12:47Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 12:48Speaker 00

  Feels like, you know, when someone like tears their ACL or like, you know what? That was gonna happen, like their, their knee was weak or something, where it's like, I can, again, they all suck, but in a weird twisted way, as, as fans, we all do this logic where we're like, all right, at least it wasn't like the, the practice was too hard and someone got hurt because the coach was going too hard. It was just a one-on-one drill where his tricep popped and it was gonna pop eventually.

• 13:13Speaker 02

  I don't know if it was gonna pop eventually, I think it's, like, football is a weird sport where you put yourself and your body into a lot of different positions. And then you're the guy that you're going up against in a lot of different positions. And just like it lines up wrong and then snap. I mean, Tunsil's been a tough player, he's been a durable player for a long time. So I don't know that you could say it was going to happen, it was, but the, the, the cope that I went through, um, first and foremost was, well, then I was like, at least have an El Camino to give away to a guy to fill a spot here. And then second, I was like, well, maybe that just means that Dafay always really strong. And in that one-on-one rep, it's like he's gonna be tearing, if he's tearing Larry Muntz's pack or his tricep, imagine how many other guys' triceps he's gonna tear during the regular season.

• 13:58Speaker 00

  True.

• 13:58Speaker 02

  On the other team.

• 13:59Speaker 00

  So.

• 13:59Speaker 02

  And then the, then the third thing I thought was, I'd rather it be now than it be like week one.

• 14:05Speaker 00

  Oh, for sure.

• 14:06Speaker 02

  Because if it's now, we can try to fit somebody in, we can try to bring somebody else into camp. Or we can figure out what we want to do with the guys that we already have and get them meaningful reps with the first team at that position and get them ready to go for the regular season. And yeah, I mean, Brandon Coleman, he's, he's a decent player. He played pretty well for us in 2024, but he's not like a difference maker. I'm going to own an entire side of the line like, like Tunsil was.

• 14:31Speaker 00

  See, I, I, I do the stupid, like, whenever there's an injury, I'm like, if, if it, if it's like a, someone gets hit and, and like, or like a, a late hit or a blindside hit, I'm like, fuck this, this, this never should have happened. Where it's like, if someone tears something, you're like, all right, their body was probably gonna tear it eventually. That's what I just tell myself, just to try to cope, where you're like, it was gonna happen eventually. It just happened, what are you gonna do?

• 14:55Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 14:55Speaker 00

  I know it doesn't make sense, it doesn't make it, but none of this makes sense when you're trying to, to cope with any type of injury.

• 15:01Speaker 02

  It sucks. So a good thing about David Blau's offense is you can move guys around. That's, I just tell myself that, I have no idea if that's even remotely.

• 15:11Speaker 00

  Shouldn't his name be?

• 15:12Speaker 02

  Making sense or, or accurate at all. I'm just like, that's a good thing about this offense, it's built to absorb injuries like this.

• 15:18Speaker 00

  Shouldn't his name be Bluck?

• 15:21Speaker 02

  Did shock change the entire pronunciation?

• 15:23Speaker 00

  Yeah, should we David Bluck?

• 15:24Speaker 04

  Hundred percent.

• 15:25Speaker 00

  I think we should call him David Bluck.

• 15:27Speaker 02

  David Bluck?

• 15:28Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 15:28Speaker 02

  Yeah, Bluck, the Bluck coast.

• 15:30Speaker 00

  We're gonna Bluck you up.

• 15:31Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 15:32Speaker 00

  Uh, Teddy Bridgewater retired.

• 15:35Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 15:36Speaker 00

  Also Teddy Bridgewater was still playing football.

• 15:38Speaker 02

  Didn't realize that.

• 15:39Speaker 00

  He retired and then came back.

• 15:41Speaker 02

  Well, yeah, he went to go coach football, like high school football, and then he got in trouble for paying for Uber rides.

• 15:46Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 15:47Speaker 02

  That son of a bitch. And then he came back to the NFL.

• 15:51Speaker 00

  Yeah, and then, uh, the Bills debuted their new stadium, which, uh, I, listen, I think the people of Buffalo take great pride in the Bills and their, in their stadium, but it, I did laugh. I think it was part of, partly because I, it was like an algorithm where I clicked on one tweet. But I saw so many things online today that essentially was like, the entire Bills mafia were just building inspectors. Showing up to the new stadium, like one guy like saw like a little copper wiring under the cement. He's like, is this a problem?

• 16:20Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 16:21Speaker 00

  Like, and then there was another guy who was, who was jiggling the seats in the cup holders. Uh, there are a couple of obstructive views that suck.

• 16:28Speaker 02

  You know what it reminds me of?

• 16:29Speaker 00

  That is, that's a, that's a fair, I don't know how you could build a stadium with zero obstructive views, but a couple of them are like, that makes no sense. The ones with the, the, the stairs right in front, like what, you could have figured that one out then.

• 16:42Speaker 04

  Jumbotron's also just, it's just a tron.

• 16:44Speaker 02

  I, I actually like that. It's not a tron, no, but Hank's right, you can't call that a Jumbotron.

• 16:49Speaker 00

  I, but can, can I say that I, I think that's actually better because when you go to some of these new stadiums, all you do is watch the Jumbotron and not the field, that I don't know if they did this on purpose, but I like the fact that it's not taking like, like the Intuit Dome where the Clippers play or SoFi or Jerry's World, where you show up and you, you, you end up watching the Jumbotron more than you watch the actual field. I kinda like that they didn't do that. Again, I don't know if that was on purpose or if they were like, hey, maybe people will just spin zone this. But I saw it and I was like, you know what? That's fine, watch the game.

• 17:22Speaker 02

  I think all the Daktronics money went to Kawhi, so they didn't have enough left over. But I think that, uh, yeah, I, I, I don't hate the small Jumbotrons. I kind of agree with that take. I, I, I agree with the fact that sometimes it's too much of a distraction, but Hank's right, it shouldn't be called a Jumbotron.

• 17:36Speaker 00

  No, it's a tron.

• 17:37Speaker 02

  Just a tron now.

• 17:38Speaker 00

  TV.

• 17:38Speaker 02

  I also, I, I like the guys that were going around and they were, it was like Dwight Schrute when he goes on the tour of the, uh, of who, was that our friend Mike Wallace's house?

• 17:46Speaker 00

  It might have been.

• 17:47Speaker 02

  That, that he walks around and just.

• 17:48Speaker 04

  David Wallace.

• 17:49Speaker 02

  David Wallace and just inspecting the house for all the stuff. Um, there were some things that you see in these pictures from Bills mafia that are not actually taken from seats. They're taking from parts of the stadium.

• 17:59Speaker 00

  Oh, that's not fair.

• 18:00Speaker 02

  Where if you stood there, this would be an obstruction. Now granted, there are also some obstructed view seats and that does suck. I'm pretty sure they're listed on the ticket.

• 18:09Speaker 00

  As long as they're listed.

• 18:10Speaker 02

  Obstructed view.

• 18:11Speaker 00

  Yeah, like you can go to Wrigley and there's a, there's a, and I get it, Wrigley's very, very old and this is brand new. But I, most obstructed view seats say it when you buy it. If they didn't say it, then that's bullshit, then you have every right to be upset. The stairs thing was weird. I didn't fully understand that, that if you're, but you, but I also did see, here's another plus. The, uh, the leg space was insane. It looked like you didn't have to stand up if someone came back and forth for a beer.

• 18:38Speaker 02

  It's really.

• 18:38Speaker 00

  That's incredible.

• 18:39Speaker 02

  I think it's like shovel length.

• 18:41Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 18:41Speaker 02

  So if it does snow, then when they bring Bills mafia in there to just clean the stadium out, they can just take it one snow shovel and just go straight down the aisle.

• 18:48Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 18:48Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 18:49Speaker 00

  It looked like a cool stadium.

• 18:50Speaker 02

  I agree, I like to, I like to squeeze them a couple of them too.

• 18:53Speaker 00

  That guy, uh, Andrew Buffalo Woody, shout out that guy. He was squeezing it, he was hitting the, he was like, seats aren't as loud as they used to be, but they're comfortable.

• 19:01Speaker 02

  Yeah, um, I like it a lot.

• 19:02Speaker 00

  I, I think that also, guess what? It's an outdoor stadium and I'm gonna give them the benefit of doubt because it does not look like every other stadium. And I'm happy we still have someone still playing football outside.

• 19:14Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's what I was gonna say is when this stadium debuts, to me, the, at, at the very least, you can say, the Bills have bought us 30 years of at least having one stadium that's going to be outside in the NFL.

• 19:26Speaker 00

  And their uniforms look just as bad as we thought.

• 19:28Speaker 02

  They were, they were way worse than I thought.

• 19:30Speaker 00

  Crazy.

• 19:31Speaker 02

  I thought I'd get over it. I thought I was being soft when I saw those uniforms.

• 19:34Speaker 00

  No.

• 19:35Speaker 02

  It's like, who cares? But then I saw Josh run out on the field and it looked really bad. It looked, it looked like, uh, it looked like the team that, um, the Pittsburgh team was playing against in the Batman movie.

• 19:47Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm. Uh, no piss troughs either. Last one's here. Fully operational, that is, that makes me sad. The Bills as a fanbase are a piss trough fanbase, like they are. The Browns are a piss trough fanbase. There are certain fanbases who are like, you need it so that you can have as many dudes as possible all pissing in one hole. That's just what they do. So that was a miss by them. I actually think they should have like a handicap bathroom and then a piss trough bathroom. It's just be like, hey, for, for, for the old school, real men of Bills mafia. And it, you don't even have to build a trough, it could just be a room with a, with just a drain in the middle.

• 20:28Speaker 02

  I think all you need is you just need a ditch against a wall.

• 20:32Speaker 00

  That's fine too.

• 20:33Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 20:33Speaker 00

  But yeah, they're, they're a piss trough fanbase and it sucks that they took them away. We, we don't need a million, because it also, it's, it just takes longer. Urinals take longer, stalls take longer, piss troughs, you're in and out. Okay. What other, what other story? Let me do it. Let me do our DK read real quick and then we'll see if we have any other stories before we get to who's back. We're right at that point where it's like, just get us the football.

• 20:56Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 20:56Speaker 00

  Football.

• 20:56Speaker 02

  Because it's just. It's here.

• 20:58Speaker 00

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• 22:12Speaker 00

  What other, what other stories we've got? The WNBA just, I don't even understand what they do. Uh, but they just always have, it's like someone, it's really just Katelyn Clark and Sophie Cunningham. They're, they're getting beat up at some point over the weekend, every weekend. And it just gets us going again with ridiculous, uh, debates back and forth.

• 22:32Speaker 02

  Yeah. It's, it's a sports league that I think 99% of the attention that's paid to it is now paid by people that don't watch the sports league.

• 22:40Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 22:40Speaker 02

  That's always a good combination. And, uh, Sophie Cunningham got jacked up.

• 22:44Speaker 00

  She got jacked.

• 22:44Speaker 02

  She got clotheslined.

• 22:45Speaker 00

  Kurt Rambis.

• 22:46Speaker 02

  The, maybe the worst part was the reaction from her coach.

• 22:50Speaker 00

  Easily.

• 22:51Speaker 02

  Stephanie White, who just can't seem to figure out anything. She just doesn't ever say the right thing ever.

• 22:57Speaker 00

  She was trying to diffuse it, but she's doing it in the way, like she's basically showing I don't have their back.

• 23:02Speaker 02

  Yeah. She's throwing her own team under the bus. It doesn't matter what you truly think in that moment. You have to say, you have to say it's Bush league. It's garbage. It's rubbish.

• 23:11Speaker 00

  It's not true.

• 23:12Speaker 02

  It's not true. They should throw her out of the league.

• 23:13Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 23:14Speaker 02

  Kick her out of the league. That's, that's what you have to say if you're the coach and for her to not have her teams back. And then to have her saying these things while Katelyn Clark is sitting there just trying to figure out what the fuck do I need to do to just have a normal week in this league? I feel bad for her. I do. Because like, everyone's lost their mind in all the Katelyn Clark discourse. She just wants to go out there and, and hit threes. And that'd be, that's what she's good at. And that's what I would like to see her doing.

• 23:38Speaker 04

  The coach said she's gonna compete. No one's gonna walk in for an easy layup. So I don't oppose the hard foul. And Katelyn Clark was sitting next to her and just put her head.

• 23:45Speaker 02

  Like, yeah.

• 23:46Speaker 04

  Head in her hands.

• 23:46Speaker 00

  Defend your players.

• 23:49Speaker 02

  Also.

• 23:49Speaker 04

  And Iscancer. Freedom.

• 23:51Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 23:51Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 23:52Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 23:52Speaker 00

  That'll, that'll. And Royce White, who's scared of airplanes.

• 23:55Speaker 02

  This will be a story, I'm sure, in the next three weeks.

• 23:59Speaker 00

  Yeah. Enes Kanter and, uh, Royce White have declared for the WNBA draft.

• 24:03Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm.

• 24:04Speaker 00

  Royce White, that's, that's Royce White who couldn't get on an airplane, right?

• 24:07Speaker 02

  Yeah. I also don't think that Royce White has a great track record of being in the same room as women.

• 24:14Speaker 00

  Oh, okay.

• 24:16Speaker 02

  So maybe a whole locker room full might not be a great combo.

• 24:19Speaker 00

  I saw, actually, I did see that exchange with Robin Lopez.

• 24:21Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 24:22Speaker 00

  He had him pretty, he had him dead to rights.

• 24:24Speaker 02

  He's got a, he's got a rap sheet.

• 24:27Speaker 00

  Um, okay. Other, other stories. Uh, I don't even think this is a story, but Michael Block just walked off the golf course. Blocky. Did you see that, Hank?

• 24:37Speaker 04

  I did see this.

• 24:38Speaker 00

  What's his deal?

• 24:40Speaker 04

  He, uh, he showed up late for his tee time. I think he was, he was not gonna make the cut.

• 24:44Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 24:45Speaker 04

  Showed up late for his tee time. He, he was in on a sponsor's exemption too. So it's like.

• 24:49Speaker 00

  His whole life.

• 24:50Speaker 04

  Which is tough.

• 24:50Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 24:51Speaker 04

  Probably gonna be tough to get another invite. Uh, he was like, you know, six shots outside the cut line. He bogeyed on 12. So he was, he was done. And then he just, he just left the course.

• 25:02Speaker 00

  Blocky.

• 25:03Speaker 02

  I don't hate it.

• 25:03Speaker 00

  Is there gonna be, is there gonna be like a, a, a Grant Horvath or Brian Brother apologizing for leaving that in?

• 25:10Speaker 04

  Probably not. I mean, no, I think that it's the senior tour. They're probably just gonna be like, we're not gonna invite. We're, we're done with the Blocky Show.

• 25:15Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 25:16Speaker 02

  I think it's kinda messed up that they left it in though.

• 25:19Speaker 00

  God, this guy hits one big shot.

• 25:24Speaker 02

  I love him though. Like, oh, whatever. That's just blocky.

• 25:27Speaker 00

  He's like, you ever see those memes? They were like, the, uh, it's like, uh, a bar graph and it's like hype is 90 out of 100 and talent is 10 out of 100. It's like, who is this? That's Michael Block.

• 25:41Speaker 04

  He was also mad about the course conditions. I was.

• 25:43Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 25:43Speaker 04

  He was, he was, he was, he was playing terrible, blaming the course conditions.

• 25:48Speaker 00

  Got it.

• 25:49Speaker 04

  And then just took his ball and went home.

• 25:51Speaker 00

  No, it's everyone else's fault.

• 25:52Speaker 02

  Of course. It was, but the course was only bad for him, Hank. You left that part out.

• 25:56Speaker 00

  Yeah. I'm not the problem. It's everyone else.

• 25:59Speaker 02

  We have to start training Mike Block with, with more respect because I feel like we've taken a lot of shots on his name the last couple of weeks.

• 26:06Speaker 04

  He said he was, he, he got, he got a two stroke penalty for being late to his tee time and on Instagram, he said, I was a couple of seconds late to my tee time, got caught up taking pictures for volunteers. First time in my career.

• 26:16Speaker 02

  He's got a little Marlins man in him.

• 26:17Speaker 04

  Completely my fault. And I did tell my playing partners I was, I was withdrawing. So he's saying.

• 26:23Speaker 02

  Withdrawing from what?

• 26:24Speaker 04

  Like.

• 26:25Speaker 02

  He was going through withdrawing?

• 26:26Speaker 04

  The reports said that he left and didn't tell anyone that he was leaving. He's saying he did in fact leave. And the only reason he was late was because he was, he was taking pictures with volunteers.

• 26:36Speaker 00

  Ah.

• 26:36Speaker 02

  He was too good of a guy.

• 26:37Speaker 00

  Michael Block.

• 26:38Speaker 04

  Man of the people.

• 26:38Speaker 00

  Man of the people. Oh, man. By the way, RIP Don Nelson.

• 26:43Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 26:44Speaker 00

  That happened. He's a, he's the second leading, uh, second most wins of any NBA coach of all time.

• 26:50Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 26:51Speaker 00

  And.

• 26:51Speaker 02

  Absolute legend.

• 26:52Speaker 00

  Did, I, I didn't, I think I knew this, but Don Nelson, um, his like retirement years.

• 27:00Speaker 02

  Oh, he's a weed farmer.

• 27:01Speaker 00

  He's a weed, coffee and sugar farmer in Hawaii and was just, would just watch, would just hang out, have poker games. Hold on, I gotta find it because it was like, an all time, like this guy knew how to live and like finish his life correctly. Uh, okay. Yeah. As of April 20, uh, April 2018, Nelson lives in Maui where he has a farm to grow flowers, coffee and cannabis. He hosts local poker games with celebrities such as Willie Nelson, Woody Harrelson, Owen Wilson. "I know how far I've come from being a hog farmer," Nelson said of his career. "I've come a long, long way from being some country kid. I got in the fast lane and I've stayed there a long time. I've done pretty well. All I can tell you is he's happy. He's in Maui drinking Mai Tais and watching sunsets in Wales. Life's good," said his son, Donnie.

• 27:47Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 27:47Speaker 00

  Life well lived.

• 27:48Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 27:48Speaker 00

  That's a hell of a way.

• 27:49Speaker 02

  It was great. They did an interview with him. I'm, I remember back in 2019, they said, what, what are you doing? What are you doing with your life now, Nelly? He said, I've been smoking some pot.

• 27:57Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 27:58Speaker 02

  I never smoked when I played or coached. It's new to me. I grew a, a variety called Nelly Kush. It's not for sale. It's for personal use. You've gotta treat, you got, you gotta treat it like a baby.

• 28:10Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 28:10Speaker 02

  You gotta water it. You gotta have music for it. You gotta bless it. It's a whole process. Yeah. He had a, a great post NBA life. Also, um, he won a championship as a player, right?

• 28:21Speaker 00

  Uh, I believe so. Yeah.

• 28:23Speaker 02

  Yeah. Yeah. Great player. Better coach.

• 28:28Speaker 00

  Made better hang. Best hang.

• 28:29Speaker 02

  Great hang.

• 28:30Speaker 00

  Great hang. Did you guys also see Monte Ellis said that if, uh, they swapped him and Steph, they still would've won?

• 28:37Speaker 02

  No.

• 28:38Speaker 04

  Didn't they get rid of him? Like?

• 28:39Speaker 00

  Yeah. He said, if you switch me and Steph out with the team that won championships, it'd be the same thing. Well, that's some revisionist history.

• 28:47Speaker 02

  Yeah. I mean, sometimes you just gotta say stuff.

• 28:50Speaker 03

  Monte Ellis was a bucket too, but.

• 28:51Speaker 00

  He was.

• 28:52Speaker 03

  But then you say stuff like that and then everyone says that you stink.

• 28:55Speaker 00

  Yeah, right.

• 28:56Speaker 03

  So you, you, you.

• 28:57Speaker 00

  Pick anyone else, Monte.

• 28:58Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 28:59Speaker 00

  Just be like, yeah, I don't even know what, uh, I, I'm trying to think like, what, what do you say there? Because yeah, he just set himself up to get absolutely roasted. Yeah.

• 29:13Speaker 04

  Blocky. If he had Rory's distance.

• 29:15Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 29:15Speaker 00

  He, but he just, he just set himself, he had Rory's distance. I forgot about that.

• 29:19Speaker 02

  Steph's three point shot. Yeah.

• 29:21Speaker 00

  He, he should've said, uh, if you swapped me and Brandon Rush on the 2015 Warriors, we still would've won.

• 29:27Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 29:28Speaker 00

  And everyone would be like, dude, that's so true.

• 29:30Speaker 02

  That's fair.

• 29:30Speaker 00

  Monte Ellis is a bucket. He's so fucking good. Unfortunately, he did the wrong thing and picked out the best shooter of all time.

• 29:40Speaker 00

  Okay, let's do who's back and then we have Mike Florio and then we're gonna do our Mount Rushmore on the other side of Florio. We'll be on the road this week, by the way. We're gonna do some podcasting on the road, which is always fun. Zach, you ready for Megabit?

• 29:55Speaker 05

  Could be so huge.

• 29:56Speaker 00

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• 30:38Speaker 04

  Vacation was great. Great time on island with the fam.

• 30:40Speaker 00

  We missed the fuck out of you.

• 30:41Speaker 02

  What island were you on?

• 30:42Speaker 04

  Uh, Block Island.

• 30:43Speaker 02

  Okay, yeah, you went home early.

• 30:46Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 30:47Speaker 00

  We missed the fuck out of you, dude.

• 30:48Speaker 04

  I missed you guys too.

• 30:51Speaker 00

  Didn't even talk shit about you when you were gone.

• 30:54Speaker 04

  Really?

• 30:55Speaker 00

  No, I actually, I, this might be the first time ever. I actually am trying, I'm replaying. I think we just said we missed you. Oh, I did say, what was, uh, oh, on Wednesday's show, I said that you.

• 31:09Speaker 04

  I was here for Wednesday's show.

• 31:10Speaker 00

  Well, you weren't here for the beginning of Hard Knocks. And I said.

• 31:15Speaker 04

  That was when PFT's computer.

• 31:17Speaker 00

  Well, he was trying to compute from a flight simulator.

• 31:20Speaker 02

  It's a legitimate computer. I mean.

• 31:22Speaker 00

  And we cut out the, he actually cut out like six different times.

• 31:25Speaker 02

  It's a real, it's a real honest to God computer.

• 31:29Speaker 00

  We edited around those, but he kept on.

• 31:31Speaker 04

  I was on the plane, I was on the plane in the group chat, like seeing just like, it was like, oh, we're gonna start. And then it was like an hour and a half later, like still going. I was like hoping that you were gonna still be going when I landed. I was just gonna pop on and be like, what's up, guys?

• 31:44Speaker 00

  Yeah, no, he would, he would say like two sentences, then it would freeze.

• 31:47Speaker 02

  Zach, uh, I don't want to throw Zach under the bus, but he gave me all the specs for my new computer that I went out and bought. And so it's like brand new.

• 31:54Speaker 04

  How many computers do you have?

• 31:55Speaker 00

  Why don't you use the one you always use?

• 31:57Speaker 02

  I have one computer.

• 31:59Speaker 05

  Those are great specs.

• 32:00Speaker 02

  The one I always use is, is now subbed out.

• 32:03Speaker 00

  Got it.

• 32:04Speaker 02

  That's, that's an old computer.

• 32:06Speaker 05

  But that one worked.

• 32:07Speaker 03

  A hundred percent user error. Someone from the booth is saying back here that won't say it into the mic.

• 32:11Speaker 02

  Is that memes?

• 32:13Speaker 00

  Memes?

• 32:14Speaker 03

  It wasn't me. I, me personally, I was saying, how does he have a sauna installed in his house and not a computer?

• 32:19Speaker 02

  I do have a computer. It's literally a, a computer. It's a full computer.

• 32:23Speaker 00

  Is it more of a flight simulator than a computer?

• 32:25Speaker 02

  No, it is a hundred percent a computer.

• 32:27Speaker 05

  Could be too much computer.

• 32:29Speaker 02

  It might be.

• 32:29Speaker 05

  Cause it's a lot of computer.

• 32:30Speaker 02

  It might be. That's the thing is it might be too strong of a computer. The only thing I've done on that computer, I downloaded Flight Sim and then I have Google Chrome.

• 32:40Speaker 02

  And Copilot. That's it. So I don't know.

• 32:44Speaker 00

  Did you fix it after?

• 32:45Speaker 02

  No, I need to get around to doing that. Yeah. I mean, actually after, after I logged off, it stayed on for a while. So we might be back in business.

• 32:54Speaker 03

  But you weren't running anything.

• 32:55Speaker 00

  Check it before next.

• 32:57Speaker 02

  I know.

• 32:58Speaker 03

  So why, obviously it's gonna stay on.

• 33:01Speaker 02

  I was, no, I was online.

• 33:03Speaker 04

  The Flight Sim works. That's, that, that's all that matters.

• 33:05Speaker 02

  No.

• 33:05Speaker 04

  Oh.

• 33:06Speaker 02

  No, nothing. No, that's what I'm saying. Like the computer, if I try to turn it on, it gets like the wavy weird lines.

• 33:12Speaker 04

  Computer yourself?

• 33:13Speaker 02

  No, Zach and I, we talked, talked through the specs.

• 33:16Speaker 00

  Zach, are you gonna blame for this?

• 33:18Speaker 05

  No, I will say though, while we were in the call trying to diagnose the computer, he never cut out. So for like, yeah, 35, 40 minutes, we were doing like, trying to diagnose the issue.

• 33:27Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 33:27Speaker 05

  But it was working perfectly on the call.

• 33:29Speaker 00

  The way PFT is talking about it, it sounds like you told him what to buy.

• 33:34Speaker 05

  This, listen, this could definitely be my fault.

• 33:37Speaker 00

  But it, did you tell him what to buy?

• 33:39Speaker 05

  I definitely pointed him in the direction of some guys who know tech.

• 33:42Speaker 03

  Zach, how's your computer doing at home?

• 33:44Speaker 04

  Uh, we're, we're, after some open heart surgery, we're back.

• 33:48Speaker 02

  Oh, wait, so your computer screwed up too?

• 33:49Speaker 03

  Computer's broken.

• 33:50Speaker 00

  Why, why can't you guys just have computers?

• 33:52Speaker 02

  No, I, listen, I went out, I bought a very, very expensive, top of the line new computer. And it's just.

• 33:59Speaker 00

  What was its main purpose?

• 34:00Speaker 02

  It just fries.

• 34:01Speaker 00

  Is its main purpose is to game?

• 34:03Speaker 02

  No, to be my, my full-time home computer.

• 34:05Speaker 00

  Got it.

• 34:06Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 34:07Speaker 00

  Zach, what's your computers to game?

• 34:09Speaker 04

  Your other computer, which I had the same one, works fine.

• 34:14Speaker 02

  It was, it was showing signs of slowing down.

• 34:18Speaker 02

  I mean, it's what, six years old, seven years old?

• 34:21Speaker 00

  Yeah, like five.

• 34:22Speaker 02

  I think it's pre-COVID.

• 34:23Speaker 04

  Now, peak COVID, like two years into COVID.

• 34:26Speaker 02

  That's peak COVID?

• 34:29Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 34:30Speaker 02

  You and I had different COVIDs.

• 34:33Speaker 04

  Like, like that was, I mean, we were gaming. That's what I was gaming. So I got like good, good, good computers.

• 34:39Speaker 02

  It's about six years old, not an old computer, but it was, it was slowing down. Got a new one, thought it would be the answer to all my problems. I haven't even looked at porn on that computer and it's already fried.

• 34:48Speaker 04

  You look at porn on a computer?

• 34:50Speaker 02

  I have looked at porn on the computer, yeah. Hand up.

• 34:52Speaker 05

  You do porn in the Flight Sim?

• 34:56Speaker 02

  No, no.

• 34:57Speaker 05

  That's sick. I'm, I'm on team that.

• 34:59Speaker 02

  I don't, I don't. Like I said, I haven't looked at porn even on this computer.

• 35:03Speaker 04

  Speaking of porn, what, can we talk about this lotion, big cat?

• 35:06Speaker 00

  Yeah, it's for my new tattoo. I got Stella tattooed on.

• 35:08Speaker 04

  Oh, nice.

• 35:09Speaker 00

  Yeah, sorry.

• 35:10Speaker 04

  No, I was, I was just looking at it. I was confused.

• 35:12Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah. No, there's a big bottle of lotion sitting right on my desk. I can understand why that would be confusing if you missed a couple.

• 35:19Speaker 03

  Good question.

• 35:20Speaker 00

  Very fair question.

• 35:21Speaker 03

  Good question.

• 35:22Speaker 00

  Fair question.

• 35:23Speaker 03

  Everyone's asking fair questions around.

• 35:24Speaker 00

  No, I'm a little, I'm a little nervous. I, I got a new tattoo and they were like, Mitch, who's does our tattoos, awesome dude. Uh, and he like ran me through everything you're supposed to do after. And then I remembered I'm gonna be like in a hundred degree sun for the next four days. So I've been extra lotioning.

• 35:42Speaker 02

  Boisterize.

• 35:42Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 35:43Speaker 03

  You should go arm sleeve.

• 35:44Speaker 04

  Oh, you should get, you should, you should get sun sleeves.

• 35:49Speaker 02

  Oh yeah, that's, that's a good one.

• 35:50Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 35:51Speaker 03

  Love it.

• 35:52Speaker 02

  Uh, the other week I got.

• 35:53Speaker 04

  You should become a sun sleeve guy.

• 35:55Speaker 02

  I got a, uh.

• 35:56Speaker 00

  Just one sleeve?

• 35:57Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 35:57Speaker 02

  I, I have a fake tattoo sleeve that I got a couple of weeks ago, just for fun. And it's, yeah.

• 36:03Speaker 03

  Let's rewind there. Yeah. What do you mean? You just got it for fun?

• 36:06Speaker 02

  I was at the Jersey Shore with a group of friends.

• 36:09Speaker 03

  That's all you needed to say.

• 36:11Speaker 02

  No, I didn't get the hair, but we were going out to the casino for a little bit. And so they're like, hey, we should, we should get some tattoo sleeves. So we all rolled out with tattoo sleeves.

• 36:19Speaker 00

  That's fun.

• 36:20Speaker 03

  You were at the shore, that's all I needed.

• 36:21Speaker 02

  It was fun, yeah.

• 36:22Speaker 00

  All right, who's back of the week, Hank?

• 36:23Speaker 04

  Uh, my other's back of the week is holes.

• 36:26Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 36:27Speaker 04

  There was a Brazilian soccer player that scored a goal. He ran to the sideline. He jumped over like a little, little, little mini fence and did not realize that there was like a massive hole. I don't know, 20 foot hole.

• 36:40Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 36:41Speaker 04

  Right behind him and he just disappeared. I thought it was AI. It was one of those videos that seemed.

• 36:45Speaker 02

  It looked like Mario.

• 36:46Speaker 04

  So ridiculous.

• 36:47Speaker 00

  Well, the other.

• 36:48Speaker 04

  Couldn't have been real. But he literally just, it looked like he jumped to his death.

• 36:52Speaker 00

  Wrong video, Max. That's the, the Uruguay soccer game that started a.

• 36:56Speaker 03

  That's also crazy.

• 36:56Speaker 00

  Car crash.

• 36:57Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's great.

• 36:57Speaker 00

  Did you see the alternate angle?

• 36:59Speaker 04

  No.

• 36:59Speaker 00

  Yeah, it's like a staircase and he just jumped right into the staircase. He had no idea. It was nuts.

• 37:05Speaker 02

  Was he okay?

• 37:06Speaker 00

  Uh, no, he was injured and the goal was disallowed.

• 37:09Speaker 02

  Oh, that sucks. They shouldn't do that.

• 37:11Speaker 00

  Hank?

• 37:12Speaker 04

  No.

• 37:12Speaker 00

  Yeah, the goal was disallowed.

• 37:13Speaker 02

  If you get injured selling, celebrating a goal, they should, it should stand.

• 37:17Speaker 00

  Whoops.

• 37:18Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 37:19Speaker 00

  He's like Mario. Going down one of the tubes.

• 37:23Speaker 04

  Yeah, holes are back. WNBA is back. Freedom was back. Had a canter, but we talked about that.

• 37:28Speaker 00

  Yep. All right, good. Who's back to the week, Hank?

• 37:31Speaker 04

  Thank you.

• 37:32Speaker 02

  Great. Who's back to the week, Hank? Uh, my other who's back of the week.

• 37:37Speaker 00

  You have another?

• 37:39Speaker 02

  Is.

• 37:42Speaker 02

  Live Golf.

• 37:42Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 37:43Speaker 02

  Come on, Hank. Did you not, you missed the news last week?

• 37:47Speaker 04

  Did we not talk about it at length?

• 37:49Speaker 02

  No, after you left, there was more.

• 37:52Speaker 04

  Do tell.

• 37:53Speaker 02

  So Liv, Liv announced that they officially have a new sponsor. And they said they're gonna.

• 37:58Speaker 04

  But they didn't say who the sponsor was.

• 38:00Speaker 02

  They won't say it. They won't say it.

• 38:02Speaker 00

  And also it doesn't.

• 38:03Speaker 02

  It's a secret sponsor.

• 38:03Speaker 00

  And it really doesn't matter because they have to pay out everyone. We did kind of talk about it. Yeah, they had to pay out everyone.

• 38:10Speaker 02

  But the day after, there was more news directly from Liv.

• 38:12Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah.

• 38:13Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 38:14Speaker 04

  I mean, the, the event this week was a, was a huge success. It looked like a great time.

• 38:17Speaker 02

  I know, it was crazy.

• 38:19Speaker 00

  The gallery was insane.

• 38:20Speaker 02

  They're still talking about it.

• 38:21Speaker 04

  Joaquin Neiman won his ninth event.

• 38:24Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 38:24Speaker 04

  He's, he's.

• 38:25Speaker 00

  Dudes are just giving up, shooting like plus 26.

• 38:28Speaker 04

  Well, it's a hard course.

• 38:29Speaker 00

  Yeah, it's a hard course.

• 38:30Speaker 04

  I mean, PJ, it's just kind of, you know, birdie fest joke.

• 38:32Speaker 00

  39 and 56 players are currently over par.

• 38:35Speaker 04

  And Joaquin Neiman shot 14 under, which just shows how, how good he truly is.

• 38:39Speaker 02

  Memes has a question.

• 38:40Speaker 00

  You have a question?

• 38:42Speaker 03

  I think if Liv was smart, they would invite Hank on tour.

• 38:44Speaker 04

  Uh, they did invite me. I think I'm gonna go to, uh, there's, there's an event in Indiana in a couple of weeks.

• 38:50Speaker 00

  No.

• 38:51Speaker 04

  The Four Aces reached out.

• 38:52Speaker 02

  No. Wait, which one? Which ace?

• 38:55Speaker 04

  The, just the account, the team account.

• 38:57Speaker 02

  Is there a?

• 38:58Speaker 00

  They're gonna be able, you're gonna be able to park like next to the T-Marks.

• 39:02Speaker 04

  Well, yeah, I mean, it's the Four Aces. They're, they're, they're, they're, the Four Aces are inviting me. It's gonna be a red carpet.

• 39:08Speaker 02

  It's really their tour, the Four Aces. Is it, have, have you?

• 39:12Speaker 00

  Oh, it's the individual championship. It all comes down to Indy.

• 39:15Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 39:15Speaker 02

  Wow. Hank, have you thought about that?

• 39:19Speaker 04

  What?

• 39:19Speaker 02

  Like Live Golf's problem.

• 39:22Speaker 02

  And probably the only problem they have is that the Four Aces are just so popular. And the other teams don't have that same name recognition and that same razzle dazzle that the Aces have.

• 39:33Speaker 04

  I disagree. They got the crushers, you got Torque, you got Legion 23.

• 39:37Speaker 02

  Wait, what was that called?

• 39:37Speaker 04

  Torque.

• 39:38Speaker 02

  It's not torque?

• 39:39Speaker 04

  No, it's Torque. Have you never watched an event?

• 39:42Speaker 02

  I have not watched.

• 39:43Speaker 04

  Oh, whenever they talk about.

• 39:44Speaker 02

  Caught me. You, you caught me in the glorious.

• 39:45Speaker 04

  I don't, I don't, I don't know the, the announcer's name, but like the main announcer, it's, it's Torque.

• 39:51Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 39:53Speaker 04

  Yeah, they got, they got plenty of teams. The Cleaks.

• 39:57Speaker 02

  I'm just saying, they have one team that's so.

• 39:59Speaker 04

  High flyers.

• 39:59Speaker 02

  That's so popular. Like kids everywhere asking for Four Aces merch.

• 40:04Speaker 00

  Are you gonna wear all black for the funeral?

• 40:06Speaker 04

  No, I'm wearing, I'm wearing all Aces.

• 40:09Speaker 00

  It's all, it's over. It's so over.

• 40:12Speaker 02

  Which one is the Ace of Spades? Have they, do they divide up by, by suit?

• 40:15Speaker 04

  I don't think so.

• 40:18Speaker 00

  Max?

• 40:20Speaker 03

  I, I don't care. I don't care.

• 40:23Speaker 04

  I didn't bring it up. I wasn't gonna bring it up.

• 40:24Speaker 02

  Well, no, we were gonna bring it up on Friday and then we decided to wait till Hank gets back.

• 40:28Speaker 00

  PFT brought it up Friday. It's like, you probably should wait till Hank gets back.

• 40:31Speaker 02

  So the, the official statement is they have an agreement in place with the lead investor, signed by the investor, and approved by the board to anchor the transaction and play a key role in supporting the path forward, driven by and for the players. We're also seeing strong interest from more than a dozen additional parties to potentially serve as minority investors.

• 40:51Speaker 04

  Domino.

• 40:52Speaker 02

  That sounds like they're having to beat, beat money guys off with a stick.

• 40:58Speaker 04

  Yeah, I mean, private equity, they tried to get into FIFA, they, they couldn't, and now.

• 41:01Speaker 00

  What's the booth saying right now?

• 41:03Speaker 03

  Meme just keeps saying that they should, they need to put Hank actually on.

• 41:07Speaker 00

  I agree.

• 41:07Speaker 02

  On the tour.

• 41:08Speaker 00

  On the tour.

• 41:09Speaker 02

  Get him out of our hair.

• 41:10Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 41:11Speaker 03

  Hank would be so bad.

• 41:13Speaker 04

  Uh, you think?

• 41:15Speaker 03

  That's what I'm saying.

• 41:17Speaker 00

  But it'd be fun. View, I mean, they would get viewers. But we have to, the only, I, I will release Hank from, from part of my take, but PFT, I get to negotiate with Liv, directly. Wet the beak. Hank, you'll be playing for $0.00. We'll be watching you for millions.

• 41:34Speaker 04

  Great.

• 41:35Speaker 00

  Yeah. Be awesome.

• 41:37Speaker 04

  I should get to, if I could play Lefty Righty Scramble, maybe. I'd still, no.

• 41:41Speaker 03

  That would be, that would be awesome.

• 41:43Speaker 00

  It's true. If they're gonna, if they're gonna struggle for golfers, we got two right here on.

• 41:47Speaker 03

  Lefty Righty Scramble would be sick. Are you kidding me?

• 41:50Speaker 02

  You should get paid for, for the job of two people.

• 41:53Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm. Absolutely.

• 41:54Speaker 02

  Like, what man could you find that will do the work of two? Besides Hank?

• 41:59Speaker 00

  Hank. Okay, uh, my who's back of the week. Uh, I got a couple umpires.

• 42:04Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 42:04Speaker 00

  Did you guys see, uh, Chris Sale got ejected before the game even started today? Uh, Braves Yankees game, it was awesome. So he was, so he was arguing with Dan Bellino, the crew chief, the day before, over a balk call, I believe, and, uh, the umpire crew was walking out before the game and one of the umps just like turned to the, to the dugout and just fucking tossed Chris Sale. It was like, get out of here. Awesome. I love this. I want more of this. Also, uh, did you guys see that, that since Scoobal got traded to the Dodgers, they're 1-6 and the Tigers are 5-2? Tigers are gonna make the playoffs. After all that, like, they're gonna, they're gonna probably be in it

• 42:48Speaker 00

  fighting tooth and nail to the end.

• 42:50Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 42:51Speaker 00

  They might not actually make the playoffs, but they're very much alive to make the playoffs, which is very funny after selling at the deadline. Um, but yeah, umpires are back. It was an awesome ejection. To be able to eject someone before the game starts, that's just a, that's just such a power move.

• 43:06Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm.

• 43:06Speaker 00

  Um, and then speaking of baseball, Ichiro's back because he hit, uh, a bunch of home runs in the Mariners Legends game, which was sick.

• 43:14Speaker 02

  That's awesome.

• 43:15Speaker 00

  And the, and, and the story goes, I, I'd forgotten this, but Ichiro said, and I believe him, he said that he could hit 40 home runs a, a season if he, if he like gave up being an average guy. And he's like, I, I have the pop. And there's like stories about him in BP hitting like mammoth home runs. But he was like, if I did that, I'd probably hit like 220, but I could hit 40 home runs. Just, I feel like he could still get out there and get on base.

• 43:44Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 43:44Speaker 00

  Just one of the best hitters of all time, if not best.

• 43:46Speaker 02

  Yeah, I, I feel like guys like him, Tony Gwynn, R.I.P., like, that's a skill that you can do till you're 45.

• 43:52Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm. Uh, okay, Zach, finish us off.

• 43:55Speaker 05

  My who's back of the week this week is gonna be none other than Ben Simmons.

• 43:58Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 43:59Speaker 05

  Gentlemen, did you see Ben Simmons make his return?

• 44:02Speaker 00

  No.

• 44:02Speaker 02

  For, in what?

• 44:04Speaker 00

  Uh, fishing?

• 44:05Speaker 05

  Not fishing. This looks to be, looked to be to me basketball court. Ben Simmons tarps off on the court, letting everybody know, grateful for where I've been, proud of where I stand, ready for wherever this goes.

• 44:17Speaker 00

  Wow.

• 44:18Speaker 05

  This time do we believe him?

• 44:19Speaker 02

  Big three?

• 44:21Speaker 05

  Uh, maybe?

• 44:23Speaker 00

  I believe him that he's ready for wherever this goes.

• 44:26Speaker 05

  Where, you think it goes where he's implying it goes?

• 44:28Speaker 00

  Probably not.

• 44:29Speaker 02

  Ah. So where, where he's ready?

• 44:31Speaker 00

  He's still young, dude, and he was, he's tall. He can play every position. He can guard every position.

• 44:40Speaker 02

  Yeah. Listen, I think, I think he can still do it. I would like to see Ben Simmons take one last shot at it.

• 44:50Speaker 05

  I mean, look, that's an athlete. He's ready to go.

• 44:53Speaker 00

  That's him right there?

• 44:55Speaker 05

  Might not be him.

• 44:56Speaker 00

  No, that's, what?

• 44:57Speaker 05

  I might, look, I might've got got.

• 44:58Speaker 02

  Wait, was that him? Would you get got by?

• 45:00Speaker 00

  I guess that is him. No, no.

• 45:02Speaker 03

  That's him.

• 45:02Speaker 00

  No, zoom in, zoom in. He looks ripped. He looks shorter than he was.

• 45:07Speaker 02

  Okay, so, so here's Ben Simmons. I want you back in the league. I think, I think you can do it. You have to follow my one piece of advice. You just have to say, I've been wrong my entire life. I am actually right-handed. I'm sorry for trying to say that I was left-handed. It was a mental condition I was going through.

• 45:30Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 45:30Speaker 02

  And I figured it out. I'm right-handed. Let's play hoops. What's up, Hank?

• 45:36Speaker 00

  That'd be it.

• 45:36Speaker 02

  He does everything else. He, he does everything else right-handed. And he claims that he's a lefty when he shoots.

• 45:44Speaker 00

  What? What if you, what if the Celtics got Ben Simmons?

• 45:47Speaker 04

  I'd be down.

• 45:48Speaker 00

  And then they beat the Sixers.

• 45:49Speaker 04

  I think they could, I think, Ben Simmons, I think, still has got something in the tank.

• 45:52Speaker 00

  Would that destroy you, Max?

• 45:53Speaker 04

  I might just be like, I'm something in the tank guy, going back to our conversation last week, but I wanted to come back on the Sixers.

• 45:59Speaker 02

  If you watch him when he fishes.

• 46:01Speaker 04

  That'd be awesome.

• 46:02Speaker 02

  The guy fishes right-handed. He does everything right-handed, but for some reason, he's like, no, I'm lefty.

• 46:08Speaker 00

  Hank, did you see, uh, a clip from Eagles training camp over the weekend?

• 46:14Speaker 04

  No.

• 46:14Speaker 00

  Two of your favorite people were together.

• 46:17Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 46:19Speaker 04

  Big Dom and LeBron.

• 46:21Speaker 00

  Jalen Brown.

• 46:22Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah, that makes sense.

• 46:24Speaker 03

  Jalen Brown saying all the right things.

• 46:26Speaker 02

  Well, Jalen Brown is also meeting with, with, uh, Hertz.

• 46:31Speaker 03

  Well, he just went to, he just went to the Eagles training camp.

• 46:32Speaker 00

  What is he saying? What'd he say?

• 46:34Speaker 03

  We already talked about this.

• 46:35Speaker 04

  That makes sense.

• 46:36Speaker 00

  But what'd he say? No, no, the, all the right things. Oh, he, oh, the, okay, yeah, I remember that. Uh, Zach, you got another who's back?

• 46:44Speaker 05

  Also, did you, did you guys also see, uh, the list of Kawhi's off-paper demands from 2019 recirculating?

• 46:51Speaker 02

  No.

• 46:52Speaker 00

  What were they?

• 46:53Speaker 05

  Nope, they were, uh.

• 46:55Speaker 00

  This feels like we're about to get got.

• 46:56Speaker 02

  Kawhi?

• 46:57Speaker 05

  1-1, partial ownership stake in the franchise.

• 46:59Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 46:59Speaker 05

  Uh, 1-2, maybe a private jet at disposal.

• 47:02Speaker 00

  Oh, this was his uncle's.

• 47:05Speaker 02

  But via, well.

• 47:06Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 47:07Speaker 02

  Fair. This is his uncle's talking to the Lakers.

• 47:09Speaker 00

  Right.

• 47:10Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 47:10Speaker 00

  Like, this will be, when, when we, when Hank, Hank negotiates with Liv, people will be able to take it out of context later and be like, did you see what Hank demanded from Liv? But it actually was his uncle's, PFT and Big Cat negotiating with Liv.

• 47:24Speaker 05

  But is that because his uncle's know he can't say it, so he'll say it for him?

• 47:27Speaker 00

  Hank, are you cool with me negotiating unlimited, uh, Reese's Peanut, well, we already kinda have Reese's unlimited, but like, extra unlimited?

• 47:36Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 47:37Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 47:37Speaker 02

  I'd like a new computer.

• 47:40Speaker 00

  I'd like an El Camino backup, in case PFT makes any, in case PFT makes any promises to anyone else.

• 47:46Speaker 02

  On Friday, I was driving home from the course and I was going down the highway and there was a broken down El Camino that was being pushed to the side of the road that had blocked up traffic for about 15 minutes going back. I, I just rolled my window down. I was like, I'm sorry, brother. Been there. I've been there.

• 47:59Speaker 00

  Been there.

• 47:59Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 48:00Speaker 00

  I'd give you mine, but I already gave it to Taylor Decker, Jaden Daniels, and Hank.

• 48:03Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 48:05Speaker 04

  How's it running?

• 48:06Speaker 02

  Great. Thanks for asking. Drove, drove, actually, I drove it to Target this morning. And then when I walked out of Target, there were three different groups of, it was three different 60-year-old guys that were just having a conversation about the El Camino, standing around the El Camino.

• 48:22Speaker 03

  That's gotta be the best feeling I've ever had.

• 48:23Speaker 02

  It was great. Yeah.

• 48:24Speaker 03

  They're can, yeah.

• 48:24Speaker 02

  Yeah, it was pretty good.

• 48:25Speaker 03

  Good for you.

• 48:26Speaker 02

  Just walk, well, then I walk up and they ask me a question I don't know the answer to.

• 48:29Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 48:29Speaker 02

  They're like, does that thing have the 6.7 in it? I was like, yeah, uh, yeah, sure does.

• 48:34Speaker 03

  Just say yes. You just gotta be confident. Yeah.

• 48:36Speaker 02

  You're damn right it does, brother.

• 48:38Speaker 00

  Absolutely. All right, good who's backs. Good, do we, do we miss anything? I think we got, I mean, I'm ready for college football to be back.

• 48:46Speaker 02

  Stedman Bailey's back?

• 48:47Speaker 00

  Okay. How so?

• 48:48Speaker 02

  He got arrested for fucking in an arcade.

• 48:50Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 48:51Speaker 02

  Down in Florida, although he claims there was no penetration. So they just, his pants were off, so really free Stedman Bailey.

• 48:57Speaker 00

  Yeah. Yeah, we're, we're, we're at the sports calendar part where I, I saw the, the Pop-Tarts click, clip. That looks like an awesome sport. We're gonna do that on After Dark. And then donk, did you guys see donk? They're throwing like inflatable donkeys onto what looks like a bullseye. I just need college football back.

• 49:15Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 49:16Speaker 00

  I, and then I need NFL back. I just need it so bad.

• 49:19Speaker 02

  I think the coaches poll came out, yeah?

• 49:21Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 49:22Speaker 02

  So that's good.

• 49:23Speaker 00

  Yeah, we're close. But this was the first Saturday where I was like, man, it feels like we should be watching college football right now. Like, I really, really need it. I'm, I'm, I'm, I basically have used all my time to fight against Shohei Ohtani. And I, I think Shohei Ohtani is an incredible player, but I am, I have had to, you know, turn my back on him for the rest of the year and slander him at any cost. That's, that's basically all my free time is PCA MVP talk. Okay. Should we get to Mike Florio and then we'll do Mount Rushmore on the other side?

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• 52:26Speaker 00

  Okay. We now welcome on a very, very special guest. It is our good, good friend, Mike Florio. Football is almost back. So we thought, let's have Florio on, let's talk some football. He was in Canton for the Hall of Fame game, the greatest Hall of Fame game ever played. We're still singing the praises of what Haynes King did in that final drive. But Mike, we're so close and you can feel it. What, let's start with the Hall of Fame game. Did you learn anything from the Hall of Fame game? Did you hear any buzz around the league? What you, you're talking to people, you're, you're shaking hands. How was the Hall of Fame game?

• 53:04Speaker 03

  Well, yeah, the game itself, it's a glorified scrimmage in full pads. And what Haynes King did was impressive, but he's going against guys who, and I don't want to take anything away from their journey, but we know how this goes. There's 90 guys on the roster, 90, and there's going to be 53 by the end of this month. So a lot of these guys aren't good enough to play in the NFL. So I don't read anything into what happened. I saw some of the buzz coming out of the game that Carson Beck may be starting by the middle of the season because he played well. There's no game planning. It's not the starting defense. Let's just enjoy it for what it is, but understand what it is. It's a preseason game. It's fun to watch because football is back. It looks like real football.

• 53:47Speaker 03

  We just don't know many of the guys and we won't get to know many of the guys. So that's my caveat on the whole Hall of Fame game experience. But yeah, it was great to be on the field, talking to different people, picking up some things. I had some reporting before the game about Aaron Donald's future. For example, I learned some more stuff today. I think he's coming back and I think we may, we may, we may hear from him by Friday.

• 54:08Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 54:09Speaker 03

  That he is coming back if he decides to come back. That's the key. He's got to decide to come back.

• 54:14Speaker 00

  He's coming back. Come on, let's stop the charade. He's coming back. He's going to be really good. The Rams are going to be loaded. I guess the only question I have is how much is he going to get paid? That's literally all I'm, I'm wondering because everything else I know he's coming back and he's going to be good.

• 54:29Speaker 03

  Well, and that's an issue that they're going to need to figure out, not just from a salary cap standpoint, but from a cash standpoint. Every team has a budget and to have a guy like Aaron Donald show up when you've already spent your budget, you're going to have to fill out some forms and genuflect before certain orders to try to get the money necessary to get Aaron Donald. But I can't imagine the Rams ownership not seizing this opportunity. But here's what's weird about it. Okay. Aaron Donald's making this decision as to whether or not he can be Aaron Donald again. But unless he's hiring the equivalent of football sparring partners, he doesn't know how he's moving relative to everyone else.

• 55:10Speaker 03

  And Lawrence Taylor ultimately retired because he came off the field and said to Bill Parcells, man, these young guys are fast. And Parcells said, no, you slowed down. And that's when Lawrence Taylor decided that's that. Aaron Donald's not going to know whether he's slowed down until he's back out there practicing with the team, but he's going to make his decision before he's in that, that space to find out. So it's kind of a strange cart before the horse, but he's making the decision soon and they'll have him on the field, week one. I reported Thursday night, 30 to 40 snaps, week one, if he's back in time to get ramped up. And yeah, it's going to make the Rams like anything, but going to the Superbowl is going to be a disappointment for the Rams if he comes back.

• 55:52Speaker 02

  Yeah. Also, if I were him, I would come back week two. That way I don't have to fly all the way to Australia and then come back. The two teams taking very different approaches to that trip. The 49ers getting there a week early. What, what's behind McVeigh's decision? We were talking about it last week. To me, it sounds like he listened to a podcast about sleep. And, and he has a, he has got an edge in terms of like, he's hacked how much you have to sleep to adjust to a, to jet lag. So they're going to try to power through it. They're just going to go down there, pretend that time zones don't exist. What have you heard about the decision? Why they're going to do that?

• 56:26Speaker 03

  You know, it's funny. And the thing about consulting with experts, and I learned this when I was practicing law, you can find an expert to support pretty much any conclusion that you want.

• 56:35Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 56:35Speaker 03

  I'm assuming they, they found an expert who told them, hey, it's better to just barnstorm in, show up the day before, leave the day after. And I guess on one level, if you never change your clock and if you never accept the fact that you're in a different time zone and that it's still a night game, late afternoon game, LA time, you can pull it off. But there's still the wear and tear of the travel that you have to recover from. I mean, sitting in a plane for all those hours, it takes a little while to spring back from that. But that seems to be what they're going to do. McVeigh was asked about it at a press conference the other day and he refused to talk about it. And he rarely refuses to talk about anything.

• 57:18Speaker 03

  And I don't know whether he hasn't talked to the team about it yet, whether he's concerned they're going to be grumpy about the plan. But yes, two very different approaches. And of course, whoever wins or loses the game, someone's going to say, well, it's, it's because of the, the travel approach. That's why that team won or that's why that team lost.

• 57:35Speaker 00

  A hundred percent. Um, Mike, I got a question about your team. Kyler Murray feels like he's going to be like, it's a mess again, because Kyler Murray feels like he, from everything reading, he's going to be the starter. How do you then go to J J McCarthy if Kyler Murray's not good? Is there a chance the Vikings might trade Kyler or J J McCarthy? Cause it feels like that's the only solution that will keep everything calm with, with both the locker room, the fan base. Just rid yourself of this mistake and try to get something back for it.

• 58:06Speaker 03

  Yeah. Conspiracy theory would be they're making it look like a close competition. So people will think, hey, hmm, maybe J J McCarthy is a guy we should add to our team. And we know how much Jim Harbaugh likes J J McCarthy. Justin Herbert is Trey Lance. Maybe they could salvage something. And that's the other side of this too. Whoever loses that quarterback competition isn't going to be very happy. Kyler Murray didn't go there to be the backup. J J McCarthy feels like he hasn't gotten a fair shake, won some games down the stretch last year. Arguably still a lot of room to grow and improve. And it doesn't seem like anyone is really seizing the job, but it could be. Let's make McCarthy look good. Let's showcase McCarthy in the preseason.

• 58:49Speaker 03

  Let's hope we can unload him and then go with three guys. Murray, Carson Wentz, who showed up very late last year and played fairly well. Considering he didn't sign until August 31, he played well when he got pressed into service. And then they got Max Brosmer, who they still really like, which tells me they watch.

• 59:07Speaker 00

  Yeah. The game against Seattle. Yeah.

• 59:10Speaker 03

  But, but they got four guys. And if they really like Wentz and Brosmer, then yeah, whoever doesn't win the starting job presumably may not be there. But then the other side of it is you want to keep the other guy there because Murray's gotten injured. McCarthy's gotten injured. I feel like if they're both there, week one, we're going to see both of them play at some point this year.

• 59:31Speaker 02

  Maybe two quarterbacks at once on the field.

• 59:34Speaker 03

  That would be a hell of a, that, that would be a hell of a plan.

• 59:37Speaker 02

  It would be. What about the, uh, what about the Colts and their quarterback situation? Anthony, well, actually I have one more question about nine, about McCarthy. What would you think that the trade market would be like for nine? Cause I could see a position where the Vikings, they think, yeah, it's probably for the best. If we, if we traded him, if he doesn't win the starting job, but then somebody makes an offer and the best offer they get is like a fourth round pick and the Vikings would be like, well, we don't want to do that because we obviously just, you know, we, we move, we, we put ourselves in a position where we spent a first rounder on them. Um, and that just doesn't seem like it's a, it's a great deal for our value right now. So like, what do you think other teams would offer?

• 1:00:13Speaker 03

  Well, you know, it depends upon what other teams thought of him. And they're not in the business of advertising to the world, but they thought of a guy that someone else took with the 10th overall pick in the draft. But you may have some evaluators and coaches out there who are thinking, hey, we can handle this differently. It was a confluence of bad factors that led to this outcome. We see something in McCarthy from his Michigan tape, from his tape when things went well down the stretch in Minnesota and shit happens in Minnesota and maybe a fresh start.

• 1:00:43Speaker 03

  Will be good for him. The other side of it is this isn't the Jets burning through highly drafted quarterbacks who go somewhere else and flourish. You could argue if the guy doesn't flourish under Kevin O'Connell, who's he going to flourish under? So that would be the risk that this guy just isn't going to work out. But it may be he needs to take a hard step back, be a backup. It would be a cheap contract relative to what it costs to go out and find a veteran backup. He's got some playing experience. 31 other teams, I'd like to think somebody would say it's worth rolling the dice.

• 1:01:14Speaker 00

  Definitely, yeah.

• 1:01:15Speaker 03

  Out for us.

• 1:01:16Speaker 00

  Yeah, no, definitely. I, I, I've just, I'm of the belief that if he doesn't win the job outright here in Minnesota, it's kind of over for him because it's very hard to draft a guy, have him, you know, get injured, which that obviously sucked and it wasn't his fault, but then have the yo-yo of last year where it's, you know, the soft benching and all this controversy and everything going back and forth. Do we want him? Do we not? And then have Kyler Murray come in and beat you out for the job. It's like, you gotta just wash your hands of it. You can't just keep, you can't keep doing it year after year because that's how a team kind of starts to, to devolve and everything falls apart.

• 1:01:51Speaker 03

  There's a thought out there that the GM who was fired in January, Quayse Odofo-Mensah, that he's gone because McCarthy was his guy. I think the more important flaw was last year when they went with McCarthy, didn't keep Sam Darnold, didn't keep Daniel Jones, didn't have a veteran proven there who could play if McCarthy got injured or was ineffective. And I suspected O'Connell was saying, we have to have someone else. And then others in the organization said, no, we're going to ride with nine. And then look what happens last year. Who's gone? Who stays? Kind of tells you the rest of the story. I think the way they mishandled the quarterback position last year.

• 1:02:33Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:02:34Speaker 03

  And that Quayse Odofo-Mensah is gone.

• 1:02:36Speaker 00

  And he could still be the starter. I mean, he could still win the job. I'm not saying that it's totally over for him. I'm just thinking that if you don't win the job, then, then the Vikings probably have to think about what the next step is.

• 1:02:45Speaker 03

  Yeah. Yeah. You can't put him on ice for his third NFL season and then say, oh, next year when Kyler Murray's gone, you're going to be the starter again. How do you command the room when you've been jerked around like that?

• 1:02:55Speaker 00

  Right. Yeah. You can't ice nine. Vonnegut taught me that. What about the Colts? With the Colts, with Anthony, Anthony Richardson, is he, are they going their separate ways? Are they moving on? Are they out of the Anthony Richardson business?

• 1:03:08Speaker 03

  I think the reality is they haven't found a trade partner yet, obviously. And he's got an affordable contract. It's a fully guaranteed 5 million plus. No one has given them a trade offer that they're ready to take. So you just hang on to them because all it takes is one injury in training camp, in the preseason, early in the regular season, and all of a sudden there's a market for Anthony Richardson. Now, the question is, will they keep him beyond week one? But they owe him that full salary. All they would save is the league minimum that he would sign, that he would get if he signs with another team. So there's nothing to really lose by keeping him because you're paying the vast majority of his salary anyway. And Daniel Jones gets injured and Daniel Jones has gotten injured a few times in his career. All of a sudden, you may need Anthony Richardson.

• 1:03:53Speaker 03

  Look what happened last year. Jones gets injured in December. Richardson's not available because of that freak accident that happened in the locker room where the, the band broke and he, he took a weight in the eye and broke his orbital bone. They, they didn't want Riley Leonard. They, they dusted off Philip Rivers to come in and play. So at some point, you got to at least account for the possibility Jones is going to get injured again. Then what are you going to do? You got Easton Stick and Riley Leonard is the other two guys if Richardson isn't there.

• 1:04:22Speaker 00

  Well, I mean, at least Chris Ballard has a job for life. So I don't think they really are at the press for it.

• 1:04:27Speaker 02

  Are there, are there people that are in the Colts organization that's still like, they, they want Anthony Richardson to do well that are still believing in Anthony?

• 1:04:35Speaker 03

  You have a lot of, I think, momentum behind a guy that you made the fourth overall pick. It's the same power structure. The only difference is ownership. And yeah, you'd like to salvage Anthony Richardson if you could. He still has the same skills that made him the fourth overall pick. The problem was he didn't have much experience playing and he's gotten, I think 15 games with 11 starts in three seasons. So he still needs more chances to play. Now, how much of is it on him? Remember when he got benched? The thinking was he's not putting in enough work. Remember he tapped out of that one game because he was tired? That seemed to be the kiss of death in his second season, but the guy's still got incredible skills. I just think it's, it's like with McCarthy. It just gets to a point where it's

• 1:05:20Speaker 03

  poisoned. It's toxic. And maybe the best move for everyone is a fresh start.

• 1:05:24Speaker 00

  What, uh, what's going on in Tampa Bay? Is it, it feels like, uh, they might have, you know, keeping Todd Bowles a year too long after how it ended last year. Vita Vay's upset. Baker Mayfield's not happy, rightfully so. Both those guys rightfully so. Are they gonna, are they gonna sign both those guys? Are they gonna fix this before the season starts? Because this feels like one of those teams that they've, they've pushed some chips in and it's like, it all could kind of fall apart in a second.

• 1:05:54Speaker 03

  Oh, and it fell apart last year down the stretch. They had a great start and then they just couldn't stop the bleeding once the losses came and they ultimately blew the division to the Carolina Panthers. But Vita Vay, they can say all they want that they don't plan to trade him. How many times have we heard that? And then the guy gets traded. It's just a matter of getting an offer. Remember when Dexter Lawrence said he wanted to be traded? Nobody thought the Giants were going to trade him. But when you're looking at keeping a guy who doesn't want to be there, that can be just a problem for the entire locker room. He doesn't want to be here. It's a mess. He's got back tightness or whatever it is that's keeping him from practicing. You don't want that distraction. So I think if they would get a good offer, they would move on from Vita Vay. You also have to be willing to pay Vita Vay or whatever he's looking to get paid. But the Mayfield

• 1:06:38Speaker 03

  thing is far more interesting to me because Baker Mayfield is no different than the guy that he was when he was drafted first overall by the Browns in 2018. And they pissed him off. And what happens when you piss off Baker Mayfield? I could see this play out. And I know they talk about the franchise tag, but he's going to have $30 million in dead money that applies next year, even before they would sign him or at least attach the franchise tag. The only way to deal with that 30 million is to work out an extension and you can play salary cap games. If they tag him, they're looking at nearly 80 million under the cap for him in 2027. I could see him getting to the open market. The Buccaneers believe, and I think this is why they haven't gotten a deal done. They believe when, if

• 1:07:23Speaker 03

  he gets a chance to go to the open market, they will always be offering more than anyone else. And once he's a free agent, it doesn't matter if somebody else is offering less. He could take less just as a middle finger to Buccaneers for not paying him when they had the chance. I could see him taking less money to go to Pittsburgh, to some other, like Pittsburgh is the perfect, it just feels like the perfect destination for him.

• 1:07:52Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:07:53Speaker 03

  Yeah. And, and, and.

• 1:07:55Speaker 00

  He could beat the Browns twice a year. I, I never thought of that, but that, you're right about that. And Pittsburgh could finally, wouldn't that be perfect? It would be a radical change for Pittsburgh to get so young by getting like a, a young 30s quarterback, which we're big Baker guys. We, I, I think he's really, really good. I don't understand what the Bucks are doing. And I think they're just in this weird spot where Jason Light's a really good GM and he's drafted really well. But I think it all comes back to Todd Bowles, keeping him in a year when it was so clear he lost everything. Like he lost the locker room. Mike Evans goes to San Francisco to, to, Mike Evans, who's like 40 years old, is going to practice next to a substation every day just so he doesn't have to be around

• 1:08:36Speaker 00

  Todd Bowles? So I just think that's a very precarious situation that, that feels like it could, it fall apart very quickly again.

• 1:08:43Speaker 03

  Here's the biggest problem when it comes to veteran quarterbacks. The range now is like $45 million. And where do you peg Baker Mayfield? And from Baker's perspective, it's easy to say, hey, look at this guy who got 50 million plus. Look at that guy who got 50 million plus. Look at that guy. I'm as good as them. And the Bucks could respond by saying, well, those teams did stupid ass deals. We're not going to do a stupid ass deal. We're not going to put ourselves in a position where maybe this all blows up. You get a serious injury and then we've got some massive cap charge and this massive financial liability. We don't want to do that. He wants to do it. And I just think it all comes down to this year. Let's see how he plays. He, I was impressed by one

• 1:09:27Speaker 03

  of the things I learned in the quarterback series because I, I'm not. Able to follow college football the way I'd like because I'm always traveling on Saturdays. I didn't know that when he didn't win the job at Texas Tech, he just left and enrolled at Oklahoma without a spot on the football team.

• 1:09:39Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:09:39Speaker 03

  I mean, this guy has rolled the dice over and over again, and he's willing to roll the dice this year.

• 1:09:45Speaker 02

  Yeah, the one thing that I'll say about Baker, and I, I love Baker, I, I, I think most teams should want to have a guy like Baker as their quarterback. He's not always super honest about his injuries during this season, so he, he will try to like push through things, fight through things, and if, when that happens enough, I think it makes it hard to believe him in the offseason when he's like, I'm feeling my best coming into camp in great shape, and it might make teams a little, a little bit more reluctant to want to like commit that guaranteed money to him. Because like, we know that, we know you're tough as shit, but part of being a quarterback has to be like, you have to be able to admit when you're injured.

• 1:10:19Speaker 03

  Well, it's one thing to play through an injury and play well, it's another thing to play through an injury and not play well. And I think this is one of the reasons why it fell apart for him in Cleveland. He refuses to come off the field, even if the injuries are causing him to be significantly less than what he would be when he's healthy, and that also goes back to one of the things he said in the quarterback series. Junior year in high school, he didn't win the starting job, fourth play from scrimmage, first game of the season, the starter gets injured. Baker takes that job and never lets it go. We've seen it with guys like Brett Favre. You don't want to come off the field ever because you don't want the next guy to have the chance to take your job. And I think that stubbornness has caused him to refuse to come out when, there's got to be situations where the backup at 100%

• 1:11:04Speaker 03

  is better than Baker Mayfield at whatever reduced percentage he is, but that's part of the risk. Can he avoid, like, he's always going to play through the injuries.

• 1:11:11Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:11:12Speaker 03

  Can he avoid getting injured in a way that causes him to not be the best Baker Mayfield he can be? And there's, there's tension there, there's resistance there, and I respect the mindset, but from the team's perspective, we want to have a quarterback out there who's at his best, and you're taking these hits you shouldn't take, you're getting these injuries, and we admire you for playing through them, but the team is damaged because of that.

• 1:11:38Speaker 02

  Yep. Uh, got a question for you about the commanders. Larry Mutunsel tears his triceps on Friday.

• 1:11:46Speaker 03

  You survived the cyanide, I saw your.

• 1:11:48Speaker 02

  Yeah, nightmare, nightmare scenario. Well, I won't say nightmare because we do have Brandon Coleman, and Brandon Coleman played pretty well at left tackle in 2024, got to the, uh, the NFC championship game. So he's, he's no slouch. Obviously Larry Mutunsel is a game changer, he's one of the best tackles in the entire league, so like, you want a guy like that on the field. But it's a serious injury, probably won't play this year. Have the commanders committed to Brandon Coleman? Or do you think they're going to get on the phone and be like, hey, Taylor Decker or somebody else? You know, I don't know who else out there would have that same resume like a Taylor Decker, but is there any look to upgrade over what they have right now, which would be Brandon Coleman at left tackle?

• 1:12:27Speaker 03

  Hey, look, this is a time of year where every team's got 90 guys, some teams have too many players at a given position, and they have to make decisions. What are we going to do? Are we going to trade a guy? Are we going to cut a guy? We see so much activity once the roster's cut to 53, there will be opportunities. Taylor Decker's an interesting possibility if they could work that out. I assume he's on the Lions reserve retired list, so they'd have to do some sort of a deal with Detroit, I think. I don't think he was just released, but I, I haven't researched that. That's a fancy way of saying, I don't know, but.

• 1:12:56Speaker 02

  I think he was officially, yeah, he got released by the Lions, uh, March 9th, 2026.

• 1:13:01Speaker 03

  Then he's string clear, he's out there, but look, it's hard to find good left tackles because there aren't enough of them. The supply doesn't match the demand, and when you have a great left tackle, that's why you keep him, that's why you pay him, because there are so few of them, so it's going to be a challenge, and they're going to need to hope that, you know, the other guys they have can get it done, and they're going to be able to, they're going to need to be able to hope that they can find someone else who can come in and be coached up and, and fill the void, but, but obviously it, it hurts, and that's, that's the thing that I hate about training camp. Like, you're sitting around all the time waiting for that notification.

• 1:13:37Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 1:13:37Speaker 03

  That a key player on your favorite team is fucked.

• 1:13:40Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:13:40Speaker 03

  And you just want to get through it all and get to the regular season.

• 1:13:43Speaker 00

  And it's extra cruel, we talked about it, uh, last episode, it's extra cruel because you're not seeing it, which I know doesn't really change it, but when you just see the tweet, oh, the card's coming out, and you don't have any video, and you're like, what the fuck?

• 1:13:55Speaker 02

  I saw the video.

• 1:13:56Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:13:56Speaker 02

  And it was a lot of cope being like, I hope that's a stinger. He grabbed his arm. Is that what a stinger looks like? A lot of asking AI to identify what injury it was, and AI fucked me, AI was like, yeah, it's probably, probably a stinger, AI lied, it was a triceps. But yeah, so if you were the commander, like, what do you think they're going to do? What's your sense? You think they're going to look outside, or you think? Cause some GMs are like, we, we have depth for a reason, and we trust our guys.

• 1:14:21Speaker 03

  You know, I was in a team's facility once, and it really shows how dehumanized football players can become. There's a big board, and I assume most facilities are like this, there's a big board at the front of the room, and it's got every position on the team with the players listed by best to worst. And then on the other side of the room is every position and their list of the 10 guys or so that they would go get if one of these guys isn't available, and so the commanders have a board like that somewhere. They know who they would look to outside the organization. The question is, can they get them?

• 1:15:00Speaker 03

  But, you know, the general managers are always looking for someone in the event lightning strikes and we lose a guy, we're going to activate our plan. What is our plan? And the problem is, sometimes you just can't pull it off. The guy's not available, the guy wants too much money, the trade request is too much, but they have some time to try to work it out. They're not going to tell us what their plan is, but I, it would be, it would be a mistake if they aren't doing something behind the scenes to look for a way to reasonably upgrade while Larry Mutunsel is out.

• 1:15:31Speaker 00

  Yeah, I would agree. Okay, uh, give us a couple of teams that you're hearing from that are, either like, there's, obviously it's, it's training camp, so everyone's got enthusiasm, everyone thinks they're going to go undefeated. But are there any teams that you've heard from, maybe not from the team directly, but from other people being like, hey, this team looks like they've finally got all the pieces together, maybe, maybe it's CJ Stroud looks better in Houston, maybe the defense in Cincinnati looks better. One of those stories.

• 1:16:01Speaker 03

  I don't really have anything along those lines because there haven't been any joint practices yet, and, you know, you have a bunch of national reporters who are hopscotching around training camps. I don't put a whole lot of stock in secondhand information.

• 1:16:13Speaker 00

  I like this.

• 1:16:14Speaker 03

  You know, I mean, let's be realistic about it, nobody knows what's going to happen until it's time to start playing the games. Nobody knows, and it all plays out one week at a time. Teams that are supposed to be bad end up being good, teams that are good end up being bad. Injuries are usually a big factor in all of that, but the margin between the best team and the worst team from a talent standpoint in the NFL isn't like it was when I was a kid, and you'd have these 53 to 10 games on a regular basis. The worst team, if they can get their shit together, and if they can avoid injuries and get a few breaks, they've got a chance, so.

• 1:16:43Speaker 00

  Let me ask a pointed question then, okay, I'll get more direct. How do you think Aaron Rodgers is going to play this year?

• 1:16:50Speaker 03

  Well, he's 42, if you haven't heard.

• 1:16:52Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:16:53Speaker 03

  And he's got this full circle moment with Mike McCarthy, which, you know, that's nice, but I really wonder how long it takes, because it was the good in that relationship that made Rodgers enthusiastic about playing for Mike McCarthy again. They won a Super Bowl together to cap the 2010 season. That was the best it ever got, but by the time it was over, if you look at any of the reporting from Tyler Dunn, he was with Bleacher Report at the time, it's kind of a shit show between Rodgers and McCarthy. If they encounter adversity, I mean, we know how Rodgers is, it's never his fault. He's going to be pissed, he'll go on McAfee and say whatever he wants to say, we've already seen that recently.

• 1:17:38Speaker 03

  And yeah, if they win, it'll be great. If they lose, it'll be ugly because it won't be Aaron Rodgers' fault, it'll be McCarthy's fault or somebody else's fault, because we, we see that. Every time we see him rip his chin strap off, the body language tells us, it's not my fault, somebody else fucked up.

• 1:17:56Speaker 00

  Okay, all right, so I agree, uh, in large part with what you said about Rodgers there in his career, but is this not a, uh, different situation in the fact that it's Mike McCarthy's first year? Mike McCarthy knows he's going to be the coach of the Pittsburgh Steelers next year. Aaron Rodgers knows he's not going to play for the Pittsburgh Steelers next year, so as much as there is maybe the bad that could happen, like, McCarthy's got to have the freedom of being like, I know this is a one-year thing, like, let's try to make the best of it, but you're not going to, you're not going to cost me my job as a Steelers head coach, the Steelers aren't going to fire a head coach after one year.

• 1:18:32Speaker 03

  Wouldn't that be something if they did?

• 1:18:33Speaker 00

  And as I said, I was like, did I just make a clip and everyone's going to shove my face?

• 1:18:38Speaker 03

  I mean, that would be hilarious, I'd feel bad for McCarthy, but that would be hilarious if they did it. Look, here's, we're so conditioned to the Steelers being contenders. 19 years with Mike Tomlin, if you haven't heard, never had a losing record under Tomlin. What if it just goes sideways this year? What if they're 2-6 after the first eight games? What if it's just one bad thing after another? I don't think they have an overabundance of talent there. I've seen some people suggest that they would be a team that has an outside shot at getting to the Super Bowl, I mean,

• 1:19:15Speaker 03

  really? I, I, I, I think, and I, I'm not rooting for this. But I'd be fascinated by it if it happened. It'd be very good for our business because it'd be a huge talking point. There's a chance this thing goes, goes sideways and you know, you get to the trade deadline, you can have Aaron Rodgers maybe asking to go somewhere that may, you know, need a quarterback, some contender that may need a quarterback because get me the hell out of here. This is my last year. I want to have a chance to play into the postseason. Now, there's a lot of ifs in that, but it's also, hey, McCarthy was six and 10 his first year with the Cowboys. He took an eight and eight team under Jason Garrett in 2019 and he went six and 10 in his first year with a team that was good enough to go eight and eight. So

• 1:19:58Speaker 03

  if they just, you know, post Tom and can't win games, it's, it's impossible to envision it now, but once we get into the week after week after week, if they're losing and they're losing and they're losing and the pressure is going to get greater and greater and greater, who the hell knows what's going to happen because as you said, McCarthy's not getting fired. It's Rogers last year. I think it's a mixture that could get, that could get combustible.

• 1:20:25Speaker 00

  It's Will Howard time.

• 1:20:26Speaker 02

  Will Howard.

• 1:20:26Speaker 00

  Will Howard.

• 1:20:27Speaker 03

  And that's the thing. We're like, if, if we're not contending by Thanksgiving, why do we want to play out the string with Aaron Rodgers? Why do we not want to get one of these other guys some reps if the season ends up being lost? I'm not saying it will, but I think it'd be stupid to just assume that they're going to be contenders and that everything's going to be fine when you change coaches after 19 years.

• 1:20:48Speaker 02

  That's why you're the best, Mike. The, starting off with the fan fiction of what if Aaron Rodgers requested trade this year?

• 1:20:54Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's why I realized, I asked the wrong question. I was like, give us like general picture. No, I gotta go.

• 1:21:00Speaker 03

  Isn't that crazy?

• 1:21:01Speaker 02

  It's not, it's not crazy. That's what makes it perfect. It's fun to think about.

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  Yeah.

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• 1:22:23Speaker 00

  Hey, how, how about this? Is Joe Burrow going to be on the Bengals next year?

• 1:22:27Speaker 03

  TBD.

• 1:22:28Speaker 00

  See? It's good. I gotta just ask more pointed questions.

• 1:22:31Speaker 03

  Look, look, guys, they, they've missed the playoffs for three straight years.

• 1:22:35Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:22:36Speaker 03

  I was surprised that they brought back Zach Taylor and Du Tobin this year. They go four straight years without a playoff appearance. When you've got Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase and T. Higgins, four straight years, when there are seven teams per conference making it now, you got Joe Burrow and you miss it four straight years. After the season, I think it goes one way or the other. If they would miss the playoffs, they either have to just give the keys to Joe Burrow or Burrow is going to say, get me out of here. It was eight years for Carson Palmer before he said, I'm out. This is seven years for Joe Burrow. I think if they've missed the playoffs and they don't make changes that make Burrow happy, remember how dejected he was, that press conference on his 29th birthday?

• 1:23:14Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:23:15Speaker 03

  I think that if they don't make the kind of changes that Burrow wants after this season, if they fail to make the playoffs again, he's going to want out.

• 1:23:21Speaker 02

  Yeah. The, it was the fact that it was on his birthday made it so much more sad.

• 1:23:24Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:23:25Speaker 02

  It was like, wait, you're, you're upset already, but it's on your birthday, man. You gotta put a smile on a little bit at least. Be like, show, show a little enthusiasm. What about the other, uh, the other team in Ohio? What about the Browns? What are they doing? Well, is it going to be Deshaun? Cause I heard that before practice, they said it was going to be Sanders taking the first team reps, right? And then they may have lied about that because the reporters that were there said that it was all Deshaun Watson getting the first team reps. So if we're, if we're doing that quarterback battle, where are we at?

• 1:23:53Speaker 03

  I feel like they're using Deshaun Watson as the carrot to get Shador Sanders to do everything that they need for him to do. I feel like Shador Sanders, like Brett Favre used to be, he just wants to show up and play in the games and he doesn't really care about all this other stuff because he knows when it's time to play, he'll be good enough. And he was good enough last year. Not great, but hell, who's been great in Cleveland since they re-entered the league in 1999. I feel like they, they want to motivate Shador. They did it, I believe during the offseason program. They started to put out this idea that Deshaun Watson was, was running away with the QB1 position. And then by the end of the offseason program, Shador Sanders had made a lot of progress. So this may be kind of like, you

• 1:24:35Speaker 03

  know, mid-training camp doldrums, trying to light a fire under Shador Sanders and through it all. The one guy that seems to be making the most buzz is Dylan Gabriel. Coach Todd Monkin said recently, he's earning more reps. What's the point of performing well if you don't get a reward? It would be crazy if Dylan Gabriel stole this thing because neither of the other two ran away with it. I just think that's what, anytime you have a quarterback competition, that's what the coach is waiting for. They want one of the guys to seize the job and make it clear to everyone that they're the guy. And no one has done it in Cleveland yet. I'll be shocked if it's Deshaun Watson, but you know, they gotta figure out somebody who's going to play quarterback. They have a lot of other good pieces. They could be,

• 1:25:20Speaker 03

  you know, better than they were last year. They just need some stability at quarterback and they need one of these guys to seize the job and, and no one has done it yet.

• 1:25:29Speaker 00

  Yeah. All right. Here's another team that feels like they're at a crossroads, so to speak, where I'm not saying they're going to have a bad season. I think they're, they can have a really good season. They go to the Super Bowl, but this season might dictate what happens in the future. It's the San Francisco 49ers because they feel like a team that they have not been, they've been kind of all in for the last few years. They have this like weird gap in their, in their first round picks where they made the Trey Lance trade. That didn't work. So they didn't, don't have anyone from 21, 22 or 23. Their roster has a weird like really, really good older guys, stars that are maybe at the end of their career, but they're stars. And then a lot of young, unproven guys. And then Kyle Shanahan,

• 1:26:11Speaker 00

  who's been there for a really long time. So what's that going to be like? What is that situation from what you're hearing?

• 1:26:17Speaker 03

  You know, last year they had a lot of injuries, but they were able to stay competitive even though they had all the injuries. And look at all the injuries they've already had. Thank you, electrical substation. I don't know what it's going to be. Hey, I don't think we should underestimate the importance of not having Kyle Shanahan at 100% for the first two weeks of training camp. That's a critical time in the life cycle of an NFL season. That's when the tone is set. They had confusion. They had their leader not there. He was there, but he wasn't there. He's kind of there, but he's not there 100%. Chris Forster's running the team. I don't remember that happening at any time in the 25 years since I've been

• 1:26:59Speaker 03

  doing this where a coach is kind of there, but not there in the key couple of weeks that start off training camp. So getting him completely back up to speed and it looks like he'll be ready to go for their preseason opener and definitely for the regular season opener. But they do have a lot of older guys. You know, they're happy. They brought back Dre Greenlaw and Debo Samuel after they reached gone for a year, but how much do they have left in the tank? Mike Evans, you mentioned him earlier. Like he's their clear cut top receiver and he's in year number 14 or 13. I think it's 13. He's had hamstring issues. He missed nine games last year. He's got a quad issue now. He's been out for nearly a week. You put a lot of eggs in this basket of keeping guys healthy. Nick Bosa all of

• 1:27:42Speaker 03

  a sudden has knee soreness. He had the torn ACL last year. He hasn't practiced for a few days. There's just a lot of stuff and they, they gotta get the hell out of that, that practice facility. There was a profile of one of their executives. in the Athletic and it was kind of buried near the bottom that they're looking at moving to a new practice facility because they need more space. I don't care what the stated reason is. This whole substation thing just kind of takes on a life of its own and you can find anyone to come in and tell you it's fine. If the players think it's a factor and it gets into their heads, the only way you're ever going to fix this thing is to get the hell away from that.

• 1:28:18Speaker 02

  Yep. Fair point. What about the Raiders? They were in the news this weekend. Apparently the training camp fight from hell.

• 1:28:25Speaker 00

  I need that video.

• 1:28:26Speaker 02

  Two badasses going after it. Kirk Cousins and Max Crosby got into a fight. Who started the fight? Who was the aggressor between Kirk Cousins and Max Crosby?

• 1:28:36Speaker 03

  Well, I don't know that yet, but remember when the Jets were on Hard Knocks? I think this is when it happened. Rex Ryan instigated someone to go start a fight because they wanted to toughen someone up or something like that. Here's the conspiracy theory and I say this tongue in cheek.

• 1:28:52Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:28:52Speaker 03

  Conspiracy theory. Max Crosby deliberately started the fight.

• 1:28:58Speaker 02

  Hmm.

• 1:28:58Speaker 03

  Get both himself and Kirk Cousins knocked out of practice for a day. So Fernando Mendoza could come in and get the first team reps and have an opportunity to prove that the number one overall pick in the draft should be able to beat out a 37-year-old quarterback who still hasn't been the same since he tore his Achilles tendon three years ago. So Crosby did it on purpose to get Mendoza more first team reps. I'm kidding.

• 1:29:19Speaker 00

  But yeah, and the only problem with that though is that Max Crosby getting kicked out. How do you know Fernando Mendoza? Like he, we famously know Max Crosby is an actual game wrecker in practice. He's a practice wrecker. So how do we know that Fernando Mendoza is better than Kirk Cousins if Max Crosby isn't there wrecking practice?

• 1:29:37Speaker 03

  But it makes it even easier for Fernando Mendoza to come in and play well. It's just, it's odd to me, you know, this isn't like the Chiefs of 2017 when they had a perennial playoff team, Alex Smith taking them to a point, but only to that point. So they draft Patrick Mahomes, they sit him on the bench for a whole year because they have a team that's going to get back to the playoffs again, and they did that year. The Raiders, what have they done? They've been to the playoffs twice since the last time they went to the Super Bowl to cap the 2002 season. They don't have the luxury of saying, we think Fernando Mendoza is better than Kirk Cousins. Why else would you have drafted him if you didn't think he would be better than Kirk Cousins? We're going to put him on the bench for a year and see what happens with Kirk Cousins. It doesn't make any sense to

• 1:30:22Speaker 03

  me. They need, I think that any quarterback needs reps. And if you are looking at a guy that you think can't jump in and play right away, why are you making him the first overall pick? So I disagree with this entire approach. I think any, any first round quarterback, especially top 10 quarterback.

• 1:30:39Speaker 02

  I agree with this.

• 1:30:40Speaker 03

  Guys gotta be ready to go week one, or you should have drafted someone else.

• 1:30:44Speaker 00

  Schlereth was the one who changed our mind on this like a decade ago where he's like, if you're not, if, because I always was like, oh, a Derek Carr, or sorry, David Carr, like he got ruined. And Schlereth was like, the point is, if he's not mentally tough enough, he was never going to be the guy anyway. Like, yes, it's bad that he got sacked a lot. You don't want to put your quarterback in that spot. But if they can't get over it, if they can't find a way to, to overcome that, they probably weren't going to be the superstar you thought they were.

• 1:31:11Speaker 02

  And I would also say that if you look at the Raiders' schedule this year, they say they don't want to have Mendoza start the season, but there's no real, real easy place where you could imagine Mendoza taking over. If you're trying to like ease him in there, you might as well just have him start week one against the Dolphins, if you believe him. I like your conspiracy. I would actually say, I could see a world where it was set up beforehand where Cousins and Crosby knew, and they're like, hey, let's get into a fight so we don't have to practice for the rest of the day.

• 1:31:40Speaker 03

  But Cousins is the one who's looking at possibly losing the starting job. And hell, I don't know. Does he want to? I think he wants to play, but it's not like there was anyone else offering him a starting job. That's what's so weird about this. You got a veteran quarterback who has played well, has made a ton of money over the years. No one else was offering in the QB1 position. If Fernando Mendoza cannot beat him out, and it feels like they're not going to let them have a fair competition, but if he can't beat them out, why in the world would he the first overall pick? Why not take David Bailey? Why not take Arvel Reese? Why not, I was gonna say Jeremiah Love, but I mean, they already have Ashton Jenny, but take somebody else or trade out of that spot and

• 1:32:21Speaker 03

  get yourself a bunch of picks you can use to address the many holes in your roster.

• 1:32:26Speaker 02

  Good point. Memes, do you have any questions for our dear good friend Mike Florio about your beloved Jets? Not really.

• 1:32:34Speaker 03

  Hi, memes.

• 1:32:34Speaker 00

  Oh, good job, memes. They're on the podcast here. When do you think the Athletics is going to conclude their investigation?

• 1:32:40Speaker 02

  Good question, memes.

• 1:32:42Speaker 03

  Well, hey, I mean, they said a few weeks on, or about June 11 and June 7, it was when it was reported that the guy who runs the Athletic, the executive editor, Steven Ginsberg, had said it's going to be a few weeks until they finish their investigation. I'm starting to think they're just never going to do it. For whatever reason, either they don't want to put any of that stuff out there, and if they do that, they're going to have some people at the New York Times and at the Athletic who are upset, or maybe there was some sort of a deal that was struck between Diana Rossini and the Athletic for this thing to go away. She's not going to tell her story. They're not going to finish their investigation. She clearly doesn't want them to do that. Or they've just decided the whole thing is so damn complicated, it really is taking a lot longer than they

• 1:33:26Speaker 03

  expected. But it's odd that it's taken this long for them to do their investigation and come to a conclusion. There's a lot of pressure internally. There's an awkward culture there because the New York Times reporters believe the Athletic reporters have a lesser standard, and this case is a prime example of the lower bar that applies to the Athletic having and triggering a worst case scenario. So I thought we'd have it by now. And I still think there's a chance she's going to sit down with Oprah Winfrey the night before the regular season opener and tell her story. I'm not saying she will. I'm just saying with the Patriots playing that Wednesday night, two days after Labor Day, that Tuesday night, right before

• 1:34:10Speaker 03

  that game, man, that'd be a hell of a time to drop a big old turd in the punch bowl if she decides to do that.

• 1:34:15Speaker 02

  Oprah. Oprah would be wild. Yeah.

• 1:34:18Speaker 03

  Anyone, whoever, whoever it would be, some big primetime interview. Diana Rossini breaks her silence, tells her story, and who the hell knows what she would say?

• 1:34:26Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:34:26Speaker 00

  Pardon my take.

• 1:34:27Speaker 02

  Yeah. Imagine the numbers.

• 1:34:29Speaker 00

  That would be great.

• 1:34:30Speaker 02

  Yeah. What's going on with, with Aaron Rodgers' injury, by the way? Do they skirt the rules, Mike?

• 1:34:38Speaker 03

  Oh, they absolutely skirted the rules. They deliberately did a risk reward calculation. Aaron Rodgers was sick before the playoff loss to the Texans. They sent him home from the team hotel. I believe they talked all through.

• 1:34:51Speaker 00

  Such a Florio story. Yeah, yeah.

• 1:34:55Speaker 02

  So in the playoff loss, he was sick going into it.

• 1:34:58Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:34:59Speaker 02

  He had a stomach issue. What was it? Yeah. I guess that's it, but we don't know what he had.

• 1:35:03Speaker 03

  Here's the problem. Here's the problem.

• 1:35:05Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:35:06Speaker 03

  And you guys dabble in the gambling trade from time to time.

• 1:35:11Speaker 00

  Nah, I never touch this stuff.

• 1:35:13Speaker 03

  This is the problem. We've seen these scandals pop up in other sports. When there is inside information that, that people have, but the public doesn't have, we don't know who knew that Aaron Rodgers was that sick. We don't know who they told. We don't know who hammered the under on his passing yards. He had 145 passing yards. I suspect the under cashed. Hammer the under on his passing touchdowns. He had zero. The under cashed. His rushing yards. I don't know what he had, but if he's sick, it's just an edge. You know, you're not going to find a silver bullet, but you're going to get an edge if you have inside information. And that's where the scandal is going to come from. The NFL, for the most part, has avoided that. It's been a basketball and baseball thing. That's why they need to care

• 1:35:57Speaker 03

  about it. And I don't know that they do. I don't know what they're doing about this one. But remember a few years ago, Bijon Robinson woke up sick on a Sunday game against the Buccaneers and they didn't disclose it and all the people lost their minds because he was the rookie then. He was the hot fantasy football prospect then. He barely played in the game. They got in trouble for that. So I think the Steelers did what they did knowing there was a chance the shit was going to hit the fan later, but they decided, screw it. He's going to play the whole game. That's all we care about. And if it comes out later, he was sick and we get in trouble, we'll deal with it at the time.

• 1:36:30Speaker 00

  Michael, I have a question for you. Uh, can I ask a question?

• 1:36:34Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 1:36:34Speaker 00

  Okay. Um, so, uh, big cat, pardon my take. I, I, I commend you and, and your pursuit because I actually agree with you. Like I, I agree that the, the teams need to be disclosing these things. When it comes to this specific case, is there a chance that the Steelers were absolute dog shit all year on offense and the Texans were awesome? And no matter what, Aaron Rodgers could have taken steroids before the game and felt like he was 25 years old and they still would have gotten their dick kicked in.

• 1:37:05Speaker 03

  Yeah, absolutely. But that's not the point. The point is-

• 1:37:07Speaker 00

  Yeah, I know, I know.

• 1:37:08Speaker 03

  Inside information and it's going to take-

• 1:37:11Speaker 00

  It's just funny in this specific scenario because it's like, it had nothing to do with him being sick. This was always gonna happen. But I know what you're saying.

• 1:37:20Speaker 03

  But he was sick and they didn't tell us. It's not what would have happened if they told us. It's the fact that they didn't. It's going to take some massive scandal to make the changes that protect the consumers. You want to protect- And I know the sports books end up getting screwed too, because the inside information gets out there and somebody goes out and hammers the under and it cashes and they get a lot of money. But they started the injury report years ago because one side had the inside information and the general public didn't. It's not there for competitive reasons. It's there to give the general public some sort of a level playing field when it's time to make wagers. And, and that's, and it's, it's like in the stock business, it's insider trading and people go to jail.

• 1:38:02Speaker 03

  And I'm stunned that it's been eight years now since they've opened the floodgates for legalized gambling in every states. I'm stunned that we haven't seen some effort to have real standards that avoid inside information. And this Aaron Rodgers case is a prime example of inside information. And who knows what the people who had access to it did with it, who they told, who placed bets? We may never know the answer to that question, but we do know there was inside information they didn't share.

• 1:38:29Speaker 00

  I love this. This is my, yep. When you're sleeping, you're, you are the meme for us. Like when we're sleeping, you're, you're taking all the bullets for us.

• 1:38:35Speaker 03

  You want me on that wall.

• 1:38:36Speaker 00

  We need you on that wall.

• 1:38:38Speaker 02

  We need you on that wall. A hundred percent.

• 1:38:40Speaker 00

  That's a fact. Um, all right, Mike, uh, you, but let's, let's actually just, before we do the Roback question. I was, and we love Mike. Uh, by the way, he, he has a chapter, incredible chapter about the Italian, uh, Sports Hall of Fame. He also wrote the back of our book, Pardon My Book, out August 18th. Florio's all over it. You can't tell the history of Pardon My Take without Mike Florio. That's a fact. Uh, but when we were-

• 1:39:06Speaker 03

  If you ever have a Hall of Fame, then I get in.

• 1:39:08Speaker 00

  A hundred percent. Yep. You might be a first balloter.

• 1:39:11Speaker 03

  All right.

• 1:39:12Speaker 00

  It's like you, Whitney, uh, my, my Mr. Portnoy, like first ballot, like guys who-

• 1:39:19Speaker 03

  Harambe.

• 1:39:19Speaker 00

  Right at the beginning, Joe Buck, Scott Van Pelt. Now we're just listing everyone. Um-

• 1:39:24Speaker 03

  Yeah, but Jerry O'Connell. I, I've told you-

• 1:39:26Speaker 00

  No, no, no. We keep him out. Steroid era. He's on PEDs. People don't realize that Jerry's on PEDs.

• 1:39:32Speaker 03

  I could listen and I don't know what it is.

• 1:39:35Speaker 00

  He's the best.

• 1:39:36Speaker 03

  When he's on your show, I could just listen to that guy talk all day long. And maybe it's just me, but I get such a kick out of Jerry O'Connell. So-

• 1:39:44Speaker 00

  No, he's incredibly talented and hilarious. And you know what? The best part about Jerry O'Connell is, is he's exactly the same. If I call him on the phone and I'm like calling him, I'll call him on the phone sometimes on my way home after we record. It's the exact same thing. Like he is just always funny. He doesn't have an off moment. We're about to go to Camp Barstool. We just sit in that cabin and he just entertains us in his like little tighty whities. He just walks around, uh, and entertains us. But what I was gonna say was, we were scheduling this and you, I was like, hey, can we do 7:30? And you're like, yeah, no problem. We're gonna go see The Odyssey, uh, at 8:15. Then you got on. So then we moved it up to 6:30. You got on, you've already seen it? You're just gonna go see it again?

• 1:40:25Speaker 03

  Yeah, we've been, I mean, we loved it.

• 1:40:27Speaker 00

  But you could have got, you could have been, you could have been five minutes late, assigned seating, right?

• 1:40:33Speaker 03

  Yeah. Well, and the night that we went, we went the Monday night after it came out. My son and I went to the last showing of the day, 9:30 Eastern. There was no one in the theater. Now, a few people came after we got there. So I don't expect at nine o'clock at night on a Sunday, there's gonna be a lot of people there. But yeah, I mean, I appreciate your flexibility. We still would have been able to get, I don't know, maybe I would have been rushing to get there, maybe not. It's not that far from here. But yeah, I love The Odyssey and it's not just because I'm employed by NBC Universal. It's awesome. I can watch it every single day. I don't know if you guys have seen it.

• 1:41:05Speaker 00

  I have not yet.

• 1:41:06Speaker 03

  Awesome. It is entertaining. And my son and I talked about it for two weeks after we saw it. So we're going back. Tried to get my wife to go.

• 1:41:13Speaker 02

  It's good. I liked it. I didn't like the fact you had to get a sex change to watch the movie, to buy a ticket. But that's the price that I pay. It's a great film. Really enjoyed it.

• 1:41:20Speaker 00

  I might go just, uh, I might, I'm gonna wait till it comes out on streaming and watch it on my phone. Like on a flight. That's how I'm gonna watch it.

• 1:41:28Speaker 03

  The way that Christopher Nolan intended.

• 1:41:30Speaker 00

  Yeah, really enjoy it. All right. So Roback question, R H O B A C K dot com, promo code TAKE. 20% off your first purchase, Q Zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, roback.com, promo code TAKE. Zach, you wanna give us, give Mike a, a last question or maybe two?

• 1:41:44Speaker 02

  Mike, I got a quick question for you. Hope you're doing well today, man. Uh, we're gonna go down to the great state of Texas. Jerry Jones recently let everybody around the league know he's looking to trade. He's looking to mix it up. What do you think he's willing to put on the line? In his eyes, that would make a big enough return for the Cowboys and maybe do this thing before he dies?

• 1:42:02Speaker 03

  Well, he's made it clear he's willing to move future assets. Now, some of that is Jerry's habit of creating attention by saying whatever pops into his brain. And he's very good at that. There is some speculation out there that Max Crosby could be a target for them. Think back to what happened with the Ravens trade. It was March, two first round picks. The Ravens got cold feet. Once they had a chance to do the physical, Dr. Daniel Cooper, who's the Cowboys team doctor, was involved in the evaluation, but Crosby's healed now. And if the Raiders aren't looking for two first round picks, we get into the season. Every year, the Raiders are looking to trade anyone before the deadline.

• 1:42:46Speaker 03

  What if he's available? What if the Cowboys are willing to give a first round pick to get Max Crosby? So I just think Jerry, look, I, I have long believed that this whole thing about Jerry being obsessed with not winning another Super Bowl and being tormented by it, I just think that's part of his carnival Barker vibe, where he just acts like he, I mean, they're making so much freaking money. And he knows what it takes to get asses in seats. And it would be sad if he's been truly tormented the last 30 years of his life by not winning another Super Bowl. The guy's got a 400 foot yacht for crying out loud. If you can't be happy with a 400 foot yacht, something is wrong. But they, they, they seem to be inclined to at least entertain it. The question becomes, what can they get? Can they get it on their terms?

• 1:43:31Speaker 03

  Is Max Crosby available? If the Raiders suck out of the gates, that's when it gets interesting. Because whether it's the Cowboys or somebody else, I think this Max Crosby trade possibility is gonna move back to the front burner.

• 1:43:42Speaker 02

  I like that. Yeah. It is, it is kinda weird that they, they traded him. Then he went back and they're like, hey, sorry about that. Just business, you know, not, not personal. We did try to trade you. There's no way that you can just forget that and move on if you're Max Crosby.

• 1:43:55Speaker 03

  It's not like George Costanza quitting his job and showing up the next day and acting like nothing happened. I know that, a very timely and hip reference, but there are so many lessons from that show that apply to everyday life. It's awkward. It's weird. And they can say anything they wanna say. It's still a weird scene when they traded the guy and everybody thought he was gone. He did his farewell video and then he's back.

• 1:44:15Speaker 02

  Yep. Yeah. Yeah. I, I do have one last question for you. You can take this in any direction. Give me a coach that might be a surprise hot seat topic come, let's say, week eight. A guy that we might not be thinking of right now.

• 1:44:29Speaker 03

  Wow. Man, whoever I say is gonna get me in shit. Yeah.

• 1:44:35Speaker 00

  I, but you don't care about that. No, I mean, all, coaches read, coaches read pro football talk.

• 1:44:41Speaker 03

  I don't need the phone calls. I don't need the text messages. And trust me, there are certain coaches who, if I would say their name, they will text me. They will call me. They will piss and moan, which will further prove why they may be on the hot seat come week eight. Because if you're worried about something I say during training camp, you got your priorities all out of whack. What about Jim Harbaugh with the Chargers?

• 1:45:05Speaker 00

  All right. Now I'm pissed. Now I'm pissed.

• 1:45:08Speaker 02

  I love it though.

• 1:45:09Speaker 03

  On him?

• 1:45:10Speaker 02

  I love it. You, you spend 30 seconds explaining why you're not gonna do it, but then you're like, you know what?

• 1:45:14Speaker 00

  Jim Harbaugh.

• 1:45:15Speaker 02

  Jim Harbaugh. Have you thought about Jim?

• 1:45:16Speaker 00

  Yeah, I mean, he's gotten the Chargers like, they're, remember what they were under Brandon Staley?

• 1:45:24Speaker 03

  I know, but there's this urgency to get to the next level.

• 1:45:27Speaker 00

  Of course, but they also had no one blocking for Justin Herbert. Like that was a joke of a playoff game.

• 1:45:35Speaker 03

  Here's the wild card that could make guys who otherwise wouldn't be on the hot seat out the door. Mike Tomlin is going to hover over the entire season and he told Chris Collinsworth the other night when he was in the booth for the Hall of Fame game, he hasn't thought yet about whether he wants to come back because he knows that he won't really be able to tell until the regular season starts. For now, he doesn't miss it. And I got to spend a lot of time with him last week. He is awesome. Just being around him, just listening to him. He's got so many stories. He communicates so clearly. He could get me and I would say run through a wall, but I can't run through a wall. He would get me to bounce off of

• 1:46:19Speaker 03

  a wall for him if he wanted to. I just love being around the guy and he's going to be great on TV and there are going to be owners who are trying to get him. And it's not just going to be owners who are already committed to firing their coaches. There's going to be owners who think, you know what, I'm fine bringing this coach back, but if Tomlin's coming back and somebody's going to get him, I want him. I'll fire my coach if I can get him. So I think there's going to be a shitload of teams that are hovering around to try to possibly get Tomlin when the season ends. And there could be guys that are perfectly safe right now, but if their team can get Tomlin, they're gone.

• 1:46:56Speaker 00

  Is it, could it be a situation where like, you know, there's always stories about a scout going to a high school for one specific guy and then they see another guy and that becomes the greatest player of all time. Could it be a situation where owners are watching Sunday Night Football for Mike Tomlin and they're like, oh my God, we should hire Jason Garrett?

• 1:47:18Speaker 03

  Look, in all seriousness, I'm stunned. Now, I think he probably made a mistake signing on with Joe Judge to be the offensive coordinator of the Giants after his time Cowboys ended. But he's another one that tells great stories. He understands the game. I've loved being around him the past few years. I just know that there's a much greater sense that there's going to be a land rush for Mike Tomlin. Look at what happened with John Harbaugh because he jumped right back into it. It was clear Tomlin wasn't going to coach this year or they would have been the same kind of zeal and effort and leverage. And he's going to be in a great spot and it's all going to come down to whether or not he wants to coach again, whether he's going to miss it, you know. In his current job, he's not going to

• 1:48:02Speaker 03

  be putting in the kind of hours and it's an unhealthy lifestyle. Sean Payton was able to, to sit out for only one year before he jumped back into it. John Madden retired at age 42. He was only 42 when he retired. He never looked back. So we'll see where Tomlin goes.

• 1:48:16Speaker 00

  All right, Mike, you're the best. We love you. Enjoy Odyssey for the second time. And can't wait for football to be back.

• 1:48:23Speaker 03

  Thanks, guys. Great talking to you as always.

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• 1:49:20Speaker 00

  Okay, Mount Rushmore time. Hank is back. Hank, so the scores, myself, memes and Max 44, PFT 33, Hank and Zach 31. What did you think about your boys' performance on Friday without you here?

• 1:49:37Speaker 04

  I mean, I feel bad. I feel bad for leaving him. I think that's, that's on me. I take full, full blame and responsibility. We're, we're a team and I let him out on an island while I was on an island and that's just being a poor teammate.

• 1:49:48Speaker 00

  Sauna.

• 1:49:50Speaker 04

  Horrible pick.

• 1:49:51Speaker 00

  I still can't believe you didn't pick trading cards.

• 1:49:55Speaker 04

  Yeah, I, I was, it is what it is. We're, that was last week. We're on to this week. That's, that's my official statement.

• 1:50:03Speaker 00

  What's your unofficial statement?

• 1:50:04Speaker 04

  How long did you guys, when you make the topic and how long before you decide?

• 1:50:09Speaker 02

  Well, here's the thing is Zach wanted the topic because Zach thought of it because he was opening trading cards.

• 1:50:15Speaker 00

  Zach picked the topic, probably an hour elapsed. And then Zach picked sauna.

• 1:50:25Speaker 04

  Yeah, sauna, sauna, sauna. I don't, I love saunas. I might be the, I might be the biggest sauna guy on this show. Just like the fact that you guys both have saunas.

• 1:50:36Speaker 00

  I saw it today.

• 1:50:36Speaker 04

  I still probably sauna more than both of you. You guys have saunas.

• 1:50:40Speaker 00

  I saw it today. Did you?

• 1:50:41Speaker 04

  I didn't.

• 1:50:42Speaker 02

  I sauna four times a week. I go usually 250 degrees, 45 minutes.

• 1:50:47Speaker 04

  That's not true.

• 1:50:48Speaker 00

  This is not true.

• 1:50:50Speaker 02

  I know, but every time I go in there, I just say that I go harder because that's what you gotta do if you're a real sauna boy. You just up your stats.

• 1:50:55Speaker 00

  The sauna guys who get it.

• 1:50:56Speaker 04

  You guys are just rich, but I actually like love saunas. I like, if you guys didn't have saunas in your house, you would not sauna.

• 1:51:01Speaker 00

  I wouldn't have, I wouldn't have a house. I'd just have a sauna. If I, if I lost all my money, I'd just have a sauna.

• 1:51:06Speaker 02

  I'm going to sell, if I ever go broke, I'm going to sell my house off room by room. And the last one to go is going to be the sauna.

• 1:51:12Speaker 00

  I'd be like, I get to live in the sauna.

• 1:51:13Speaker 04

  But I still would never.

• 1:51:14Speaker 03

  You guys are just fighting about how good of a pick this is.

• 1:51:15Speaker 04

  I know, I know. My point, my point was to say, my point was to say, I still would not have even, I don't even think that would have entered a list if I had to pick 100.

• 1:51:26Speaker 02

  The door is the worst part of the sauna.

• 1:51:29Speaker 04

  But regardless, we're again, we're, we're moved on. We're on to Monday.

• 1:51:33Speaker 00

  The door is the portal to the sauna. So you could have just picked doors.

• 1:51:38Speaker 02

  It's also the portal out. A big mistake on all of, I feel like your eyes for things that you opened should, should have been one of the picks.

• 1:51:45Speaker 00

  Yeah, sometimes it's not the best though. Happens. Like actually I don't like opening my eyes in the morning. It's actually the worst.

• 1:51:51Speaker 02

  But no, every day you open your eyes is a gift.

• 1:51:53Speaker 00

  No, but I'm tired and I wish I could keep sleeping and I, I can't. So I open my eyes. I'm like, fuck, I wish I could sleep.

• 1:52:01Speaker 02

  Sounds like you need to open your heart.

• 1:52:03Speaker 00

  No, I just, not sleeping enough. So did we, did we talk at all after the sauna or no?

• 1:52:12Speaker 04

  Uh, we text a little bit. We're, we're, listen, there's a lot of Rushmore's left. We're, we're in

• 1:52:15Speaker 02

  Not really.

• 1:52:16Speaker 04

  Very much, we're, I mean, we're right, we're in striking distance.

• 1:52:19Speaker 02

  That's true.

• 1:52:21Speaker 04

  And that's all that matters.

• 1:52:21Speaker 02

  Anything could happen.

• 1:52:22Speaker 04

  Anything could happen.

• 1:52:23Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:52:23Speaker 04

  And we play better on the road.

• 1:52:25Speaker 00

  And we're going on the road. A lot of road.

• 1:52:27Speaker 02

  Is that true? You guys play better on the road?

• 1:52:29Speaker 04

  That's all we're telling each other.

• 1:52:30Speaker 00

  Yeah, it's a good thing to tell yourself. All right. Mount Rushmore of masculine foods. This one is, this one will be tough to fuck up.

• 1:52:41Speaker 04

  I'm not going to say anything.

• 1:52:42Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:52:44Speaker 02

  Honestly, yes, it is. This one is tough to fuck up.

• 1:52:46Speaker 00

  A lot of picks. All right. Uh, what is the order memes?

• 1:52:51Speaker 02

  We go first and then Hank.

• 1:52:55Speaker 00

  Hank.

• 1:52:55Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:52:56Speaker 00

  Yeah. All right. We're going to run the ball with our first pick and we're going to go with steak. That's a, that's an easy one. I actually think this is the, I think.

• 1:53:05Speaker 03

  What's that face?

• 1:53:07Speaker 00

  He didn't do a face. I actually think with looking at this, this and I like, I don't think I'm giving it any way. I actually think this, this first round is just loaded, but steak is, it was our, there's a loaded first round. Everyone should do well in this first round. We should get out of this first round and be happy with everyone's picks. Do you not agree, PFT? There's a loaded first.

• 1:53:26Speaker 02

  Now I'm, now I'm concerned.

• 1:53:28Speaker 03

  Hank gave a look to Zach.

• 1:53:30Speaker 00

  Oh no.

• 1:53:31Speaker 03

  I don't know what that was.

• 1:53:32Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:53:35Speaker 00

  We're going to take ribs.

• 1:53:36Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:53:36Speaker 00

  All right, all right, all right. It's a loaded first round.

• 1:53:39Speaker 03

  Yeah, we had it.

• 1:53:40Speaker 00

  Yeah, we had it. We had it.

• 1:53:41Speaker 02

  Good pick.

• 1:53:42Speaker 00

  We had it.

• 1:53:43Speaker 02

  Loaded first round.

• 1:53:44Speaker 00

  It is. PFT is about to take a big pick.

• 1:53:47Speaker 02

  I am. I'm going to take bacon.

• 1:53:49Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:53:49Speaker 02

  Yep. Very masculine pick.

• 1:53:51Speaker 00

  Good pick.

• 1:53:56Speaker 02

  My second pick, I'm going to go with pork chops.

• 1:53:59Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:54:00Speaker 03

  Wow, okay.

• 1:54:01Speaker 00

  Good pick. Now Zach, Zach is freaking out right now. Zach, what are you freaking out about?

• 1:54:05Speaker 02

  Pork chops are masculine.

• 1:54:06Speaker 03

  That was a good pick.

• 1:54:06Speaker 00

  Yeah. Well, you, you wanted to take pork chops?

• 1:54:10Speaker 03

  No, never.

• 1:54:10Speaker 00

  So what were you freaking out about?

• 1:54:12Speaker 03

  I'm just kind of curious where this draft goes. I don't know.

• 1:54:14Speaker 04

  I got a Zach. We're going to take chicken and we're going to take ground beef. Oh no, fuck.

• 1:54:20Speaker 00

  Oh no. He's got it.

• 1:54:23Speaker 04

  But we didn't.

• 1:54:24Speaker 03

  So you got chicken?

• 1:54:25Speaker 02

  You got chicken.

• 1:54:26Speaker 04

  We got chicken.

• 1:54:26Speaker 00

  Yeah. Okay. Uh.

• 1:54:28Speaker 03

  Did you see the two I just texted?

• 1:54:30Speaker 00

  Yeah, I mean, we're, we're going to take.

• 1:54:31Speaker 02

  Nervous little bird.

• 1:54:33Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:54:34Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 1:54:35Speaker 00

  We're taking, we're taking buffalo wings.

• 1:54:37Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:54:38Speaker 00

  Um.

• 1:54:39Speaker 03

  And burgers.

• 1:54:40Speaker 00

  And burgers. Yeah.

• 1:54:41Speaker 02

  I mean, we don't have to.

• 1:54:42Speaker 03

  Right now we have steak, wings, burgers.

• 1:54:44Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:54:44Speaker 02

  Yeah. Those are great foods. I, I thought about chicken wings.

• 1:54:48Speaker 03

  How did you not take wings?

• 1:54:49Speaker 00

  Yeah, we thought you were for sure going to take wings.

• 1:54:50Speaker 02

  I don't think chicken wings are necessarily masculine.

• 1:54:52Speaker 04

  Oh, but like we took chicken.

• 1:54:56Speaker 00

  Okay. So you're taking what grilled chicken?

• 1:54:59Speaker 04

  Chicken wings.

• 1:55:00Speaker 00

  Well, no, no.

• 1:55:01Speaker 03

  You got a, no.

• 1:55:02Speaker 00

  Buffalo wings and, and chicken are totally.

• 1:55:05Speaker 04

  What are buffalo wings made out?

• 1:55:06Speaker 00

  Yeah, but you don't go, you know, it's, you just tried to take ground beef too. You could take it. I'm not going to argue. Go and take ground beef. We have hamburgers. Go ahead.

• 1:55:14Speaker 03

  We, we also, we also took, so we're just going to take red meat and you get every single red meat?

• 1:55:20Speaker 02

  No, I mean, there's lots of different.

• 1:55:21Speaker 00

  We took steak. Yes.

• 1:55:22Speaker 02

  Ground beef.

• 1:55:22Speaker 03

  There's lots of different chicken.

• 1:55:24Speaker 00

  You, you actually technically did take ground beef.

• 1:55:26Speaker 03

  There's chicken, there's chicken tenders, there's grilled chicken, there's, there's southern fried chicken.

• 1:55:30Speaker 02

  When Hank took chicken, I thought to myself like, I, I understand the pick, but it's too broad.

• 1:55:36Speaker 00

  Right.

• 1:55:37Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 1:55:37Speaker 04

  But you didn't, no one said that.

• 1:55:38Speaker 02

  No, it's, you're allowed to take it. It's a fair pick, but it's, I think the broadness of the pick could end up hurting you.

• 1:55:44Speaker 00

  What you, you technically did take your next two picks. You have ground beef.

• 1:55:50Speaker 03

  All right.

• 1:55:50Speaker 00

  Ground beef is a good pick. And I wouldn't argue. We have hamburger. We have, we have hamburger. We should, technically we should just make it, it should be, it should be burger.

• 1:55:58Speaker 03

  Yeah, burger. Yeah.

• 1:56:01Speaker 00

  Cheeseburger?

• 1:56:02Speaker 03

  No, it was just burger.

• 1:56:03Speaker 00

  Burger.

• 1:56:04Speaker 02

  Burgers.

• 1:56:04Speaker 00

  Burgers. Okay.

• 1:56:07Speaker 03

  Steak burger, steak wings burgers.

• 1:56:09Speaker 00

  I love the Hank. I need to, I need that clip of Hank saying, all right, we got it. And then took two picks when he wasn't supposed to.

• 1:56:20Speaker 02

  Fifty?

• 1:56:21Speaker 03

  But.

• 1:56:21Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:56:24Speaker 02

  I've got, I've got a pick and I'm not sure if it's gonna be allowed.

• 1:56:28Speaker 00

  Oh, I know what it is.

• 1:56:30Speaker 02

  No, you don't.

• 1:56:31Speaker 00

  Okay. I don't know what it is.

• 1:56:33Speaker 02

  You don't know this one.

• 1:56:34Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:56:34Speaker 02

  Um.

• 1:56:35Speaker 00

  Well, is it a food?

• 1:56:37Speaker 02

  Yeah, one of them's a food. I get two picks right now. One of the two is, is certainly a food.

• 1:56:41Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:56:42Speaker 02

  Uh, you know what? I'm, I'm, I'm gonna go against everything that my brain is telling me to do because up to this point, my brain has absolutely sabotaged.

• 1:56:51Speaker 00

  Just take a shot at it. If it's not a food, we'll, we'll, we'll talk about it. This is what Mouse Rushmore's for.

• 1:56:56Speaker 02

  Yeah. I'm gonna go with, um, a, a fish you caught yourself.

• 1:57:01Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:57:01Speaker 02

  A fish you caught.

• 1:57:03Speaker 03

  I.

• 1:57:03Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:57:04Speaker 03

  I like that. It's out of the box, but it, but it, it is masculine.

• 1:57:07Speaker 02

  It's a very masculine thing.

• 1:57:08Speaker 00

  Fish aren't masculine, but.

• 1:57:10Speaker 02

  No, but.

• 1:57:10Speaker 00

  But if you catch it.

• 1:57:11Speaker 02

  If you catch it yourself.

• 1:57:12Speaker 03

  But anything you catch yourself.

• 1:57:14Speaker 00

  Correct.

• 1:57:15Speaker 02

  My last one is gonna be pussy.

• 1:57:17Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 1:57:17Speaker 03

  We, we, we, in our meeting, we literally said, PFT is gonna take pussy.

• 1:57:21Speaker 02

  I'm gonna take pussy. It came down to pussy or ass and.

• 1:57:26Speaker 03

  And it's definitely.

• 1:57:27Speaker 02

  God help me, I just love vaginas.

• 1:57:29Speaker 00

  So is that a food?

• 1:57:31Speaker 02

  Nope.

• 1:57:31Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:57:33Speaker 03

  Horniest guy we got.

• 1:57:34Speaker 00

  By far.

• 1:57:35Speaker 02

  No, Miss, memes is, uh, Mr. Nudes over there.

• 1:57:38Speaker 03

  He still don't know.

• 1:57:39Speaker 02

  Captain Nudes. Captain, Captain Jackoff.

• 1:57:42Speaker 00

  Missed that because memes and PFT had a off-camera argument about nudes.

• 1:57:47Speaker 02

  I, memes just is walking around insisting to everybody gets more nudes than them. And I'm like, okay, dude, you got it. I believe you.

• 1:57:53Speaker 00

  Alright, so you need something else than pussy?

• 1:57:55Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, I got ass.

• 1:57:58Speaker 00

  That would not be a food either, right?

• 1:57:59Speaker 02

  So we won't go ass or pussy. Um, I'm gonna go with.

• 1:58:06Speaker 02

  Sausage.

• 1:58:07Speaker 00

  Okay. The opposite of pussy.

• 1:58:09Speaker 02

  Yeah. Sausage.

• 1:58:11Speaker 00

  Very phallic.

• 1:58:12Speaker 02

  Very masculine, though.

• 1:58:13Speaker 00

  Masculine and phallic.

• 1:58:14Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:58:17Speaker 00

  Hank?

• 1:58:18Speaker 04

  Do we do it, Zach?

• 1:58:21Speaker 04

  Big B?

• 1:58:23Speaker 03

  Yeah, we can take the Big B.

• 1:58:25Speaker 04

  Bison.

• 1:58:26Speaker 00

  Oh, we had it on there. I'm, I don't think I've, I know I have had bison.

• 1:58:31Speaker 02

  It's good. Bison burgers are good.

• 1:58:32Speaker 04

  Bison burgers are great.

• 1:58:33Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 1:58:33Speaker 04

  There used to be a, uh, it was like right across the street from my defunct film school, but it was just a bison like restaurant. So I went there a lot.

• 1:58:42Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:58:42Speaker 00

  Max, you want yours?

• 1:58:45Speaker 03

  I mean.

• 1:58:45Speaker 04

  Yeah, you gotta.

• 1:58:47Speaker 02

  Let it rip, Max.

• 1:58:48Speaker 04

  You gotta.

• 1:58:48Speaker 03

  Yeah, we have meatballs.

• 1:58:50Speaker 00

  There you go, there you go.

• 1:58:52Speaker 03

  We had, we had to have it.

• 1:58:54Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:58:54Speaker 03

  We, it, it wasn't our, our highest rated on the board, but.

• 1:58:58Speaker 00

  No, we had a lot of our must draft left.

• 1:59:00Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:59:02Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:59:03Speaker 00

  Cheese steak?

• 1:59:05Speaker 00

  Uh, chili?

• 1:59:06Speaker 04

  Ground, you, ground beef is, you couldn't, that would have been.

• 1:59:11Speaker 04

  Whatever.

• 1:59:12Speaker 00

  What?

• 1:59:12Speaker 04

  Uh, Venison.

• 1:59:14Speaker 00

  Wait, what, what was, what was, finish that thought?

• 1:59:16Speaker 04

  No, it doesn't matter.

• 1:59:17Speaker 00

  No, finish that thought.

• 1:59:18Speaker 04

  It doesn't matter.

• 1:59:19Speaker 00

  We have burgers, you have ground beef, we couldn't take chili?

• 1:59:22Speaker 04

  No, you can take chili.

• 1:59:23Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 1:59:23Speaker 04

  Cheese steak is ground beef.

• 1:59:25Speaker 03

  No, it's not. It's ribeye. Yeah, no, that's.

• 1:59:28Speaker 04

  Okay, that's why, that doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter.

• 1:59:31Speaker 00

  There.

• 1:59:32Speaker 03

  A, a chopped cheese, chopped cheese is ground beef.

• 1:59:35Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:59:36Speaker 04

  Pul pork.

• 1:59:37Speaker 02

  Okay. Brisket was a big miss, I'll give you that.

• 1:59:39Speaker 03

  Yeah, brisket, I, I put in our chat, we should, we should do brisket, but.

• 1:59:43Speaker 02

  I actually think.

• 1:59:44Speaker 03

  We had meatballs, we had to get meatballs.

• 1:59:45Speaker 02

  Thinking back on it, so nobody took chili, right?

• 1:59:48Speaker 00

  No.

• 1:59:48Speaker 02

  I think chili might be a, a first round pick.

• 1:59:50Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:59:51Speaker 03

  Yeah, we had.

• 1:59:51Speaker 00

  We had it in our must drafts. Our must drafts were steak burgers, wings, ribs, fried chicken, brisket, meatballs, cheese steak, chili.

• 1:59:58Speaker 02

  So the.

• 1:59:59Speaker 04

  Eggs.

• 1:59:59Speaker 02

  Yeah, eggs.

• 2:00:00Speaker 00

  Eggs. Although eggs are kinda feminine.

• 2:00:03Speaker 04

  But like, if you're thinking, we were thinking of like.

• 2:00:05Speaker 00

  The masculine.

• 2:00:06Speaker 04

  What do you, you know, if you're trying to get like protein.

• 2:00:08Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:00:09Speaker 03

  I said that.

• 2:00:10Speaker 00

  Yeah, I said, I, he said protein, I was like, but those guys who like work out so much are not really masculine.

• 2:00:15Speaker 03

  We were talking about like, what are the most feminine foods and Big had argued that chicken and rice is a feminine meal.

• 2:00:20Speaker 00

  Memes said, okay, no, no.

• 2:00:22Speaker 03

  Grilled chicken.

• 2:00:22Speaker 00

  Grilled chicken. I said, that's a chick meal. Grilled chicken's a chick meal.

• 2:00:27Speaker 02

  It can be if you're adding it to a salad.

• 2:00:28Speaker 04

  I don't think so. I think it's like, if you're, like, masculine is trying to get the most amount of protein.

• 2:00:34Speaker 00

  Yeah, but I, those guys aren't masculine. The guys who like go on Instagram and like flex and shit.

• 2:00:39Speaker 02

  But chili's more feminine.

• 2:00:40Speaker 04

  I'm not, yeah, I'm not following.

• 2:00:43Speaker 00

  Because they're just getting.

• 2:00:44Speaker 04

  Chicken wings are not masculine. You have to like fucking lick your, lick your hands.

• 2:00:48Speaker 00

  Yes, masculine. You're, you're, you're describing, you're describing what a woman would never do.

• 2:00:53Speaker 02

  But Hank, you're saying that it's too messy?

• 2:00:55Speaker 00

  You're describing why women don't eat.

• 2:00:57Speaker 04

  Napkins and it's like.

• 2:00:58Speaker 00

  Women don't eat buffalo wings for everything you just said.

• 2:01:00Speaker 02

  The juices don't run, it's too juicy?

• 2:01:03Speaker 04

  I mean, if you're saying chicken and rice is now masculine, then, then chicken wings aren't either.

• 2:01:08Speaker 02

  Um, I don't think, I, here's the thing, I don't necessarily agree that chicken wings are masculine. I think that their, chicken wings are for everyone.

• 2:01:14Speaker 03

  So grilled chicken masculine?

• 2:01:16Speaker 02

  I didn't say that.

• 2:01:17Speaker 03

  No?

• 2:01:17Speaker 02

  Fuck. I didn't say that either.

• 2:01:19Speaker 00

  Potatoes.

• 2:01:20Speaker 02

  Potatoes.

• 2:01:20Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:01:21Speaker 00

  Not like, not like french fries, they're just potatoes.

• 2:01:24Speaker 02

  Like maybe a little bit of butter.

• 2:01:25Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:01:26Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:01:26Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:01:27Speaker 02

  Boiled.

• 2:01:27Speaker 00

  Um, sausage is brats, you, you did sausage. Here's one that I didn't, I couldn't, we were arguing about. I don't know if I've ever seen a chick eat sunflower seeds, but then Max said they put them on salads, which I didn't realize. So sunflower seeds with the shells?

• 2:01:42Speaker 02

  Yeah, de-shelled sunflower.

• 2:01:43Speaker 03

  De-shelled sunflower seeds go on.

• 2:01:44Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:01:45Speaker 02

  I had, uh, so the one that I was debating, and since we had already been through Chicken Gate twice, I was gonna say the biggest piece of chicken.

• 2:01:52Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 2:01:53Speaker 02

  Like, the big piece of chicken in a bucket, that's, that's, that's dad's piece of chicken. That's the biggest alpha meal in the room.

• 2:02:00Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 2:02:01Speaker 02

  They claim the monster breast of chicken.

• 2:02:03Speaker 00

  Yep. Uh, burritos, big ones. I got a burrito Saturday night that was like.

• 2:02:11Speaker 00

  It was like three burritos in one. Fucking made me feel like a man. Uh, meat lovers pizza?

• 2:02:18Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:02:19Speaker 00

  Chicks don't eat that. Oh, like sausage pepperoni?

• 2:02:22Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:02:23Speaker 00

  That you like, when it's just like, it's basically, you can barely see the pizza. There's so much meat on it.

• 2:02:28Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:02:28Speaker 00

  Uh, sloppy joes.

• 2:02:29Speaker 02

  Sloppy joe's is good.

• 2:02:31Speaker 00

  Beef jerky.

• 2:02:33Speaker 04

  Beef jerky was a good pick.

• 2:02:35Speaker 00

  I was thinking combos.

• 2:02:39Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:02:40Speaker 00

  I feel like chicks don't eat combos.

• 2:02:41Speaker 02

  Chicks eat combos.

• 2:02:43Speaker 03

  Yeah, I, I, I thought you, you went a little, you went a little out of the box.

• 2:02:46Speaker 00

  I was trying to think about it outside the box. I was trying to think.

• 2:02:48Speaker 03

  Name in gas station.

• 2:02:49Speaker 00

  Yeah, I was. I was trying to think of what the most.

• 2:02:52Speaker 03

  He said Cool Ranch Doritos, which was crazy.

• 2:02:55Speaker 00

  Yeah, listen, I was trying to think outside the box. I, I was trying to think of what the most masculine fruit is.

• 2:03:02Speaker 04

  Avocado.

• 2:03:03Speaker 00

  No.

• 2:03:04Speaker 03

  No.

• 2:03:04Speaker 00

  What? I, I laid it on orange, like a big orange, not a clement side, like an orange.

• 2:03:07Speaker 03

  I think banana, even though it's kinda shaped like a dick.

• 2:03:10Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:03:10Speaker 03

  It's the least like juicy.

• 2:03:12Speaker 00

  Yeah, but a or, like when you have to peel the orange.

• 2:03:15Speaker 03

  It could, I think it might just be an apple.

• 2:03:16Speaker 00

  No, apples, no, that's what, that's what got Eve.

• 2:03:21Speaker 02

  No, didn't Eve tempt Adam with it?

• 2:03:23Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah, that's.

• 2:03:24Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:03:25Speaker 00

  That was a very chick move of her.

• 2:03:27Speaker 02

  Yeah, big time. Chicks love apples too much. Uh, what about, um, I feel like watermelon is pretty masculine.

• 2:03:35Speaker 00

  Yeah, it's pretty good.

• 2:03:37Speaker 02

  Blueberries.

• 2:03:38Speaker 03

  Nah.

• 2:03:38Speaker 02

  Bloobes?

• 2:03:39Speaker 03

  They're so dainty.

• 2:03:40Speaker 02

  Yeah, but.

• 2:03:41Speaker 00

  But big fat ones?

• 2:03:42Speaker 02

  Handful that you shroud.

• 2:03:43Speaker 03

  I mean, I like, I like blueberries.

• 2:03:44Speaker 02

  I'm a bloobes man.

• 2:03:45Speaker 00

  Yeah. Blackberries might actually be up there because they kinda got a little something to them and they're not, you know?

• 2:03:52Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:03:52Speaker 00

  They're like the manly version of raspberries.

• 2:03:54Speaker 02

  Seeded watermelon. That's a man's fruit.

• 2:03:57Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah.

• 2:03:57Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:03:57Speaker 00

  The unseated is like child's play. Like, what are you doing?

• 2:04:00Speaker 03

  Lemon.

• 2:04:02Speaker 02

  Um, yeah, that's a man's fruit. Yeah. Love a nice bite of lemon.

• 2:04:05Speaker 00

  Lemon drop shot?

• 2:04:06Speaker 03

  Yeah. No, no, just like bite, take a bite out of a lemon.

• 2:04:10Speaker 02

  Like, uh, what do you think about TV dinner? Like.

• 2:04:13Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:04:14Speaker 02

  Hungry Man.

• 2:04:14Speaker 00

  Yeah, like a meatloaf?

• 2:04:16Speaker 02

  Hungry Man is maybe.

• 2:04:17Speaker 03

  Meatloaf is, meatloaf is a good pick.

• 2:04:18Speaker 00

  I mean, it's in it, chicken pot pie?

• 2:04:20Speaker 02

  Hungry Man is maybe the most unhealthy meal that you can ever eat.

• 2:04:24Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:04:25Speaker 02

  But goddamn, it's good.

• 2:04:26Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:04:26Speaker 02

  Ramen?

• 2:04:28Speaker 03

  Now chick, that's the most chick.

• 2:04:30Speaker 00

  That's chick.

• 2:04:30Speaker 02

  You think just like the, the brick of ramen is for chicks?

• 2:04:33Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah.

• 2:04:34Speaker 02

  I disagree.

• 2:04:35Speaker 00

  Um.

• 2:04:36Speaker 03

  Venison?

• 2:04:37Speaker 00

  Venison's good. Shepherd's pie? That's just literally meat and mashed potatoes.

• 2:04:41Speaker 02

  Shark fin? Shark, yeah.

• 2:04:43Speaker 00

  What about the, what, what about just a meat pie? The Australian meat pies?

• 2:04:48Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:04:48Speaker 00

  That feels like that's ma- masculine shit. Stew, yeah, beef stew.

• 2:04:52Speaker 02

  Beef stew on here.

• 2:04:54Speaker 00

  Chili beef stew.

• 2:04:55Speaker 02

  Um, I had elk.

• 2:04:58Speaker 00

  And I don't eat it.

• 2:04:58Speaker 03

  Never had it.

• 2:04:59Speaker 02

  Yeah, like a backstrap of elk, pretty good. I had, um, a turkey leg.

• 2:05:05Speaker 00

  Fried turkey leg.

• 2:05:06Speaker 02

  Yeah. Or smoked, the one that you walk around with at the fair.

• 2:05:09Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:05:09Speaker 02

  Uh, and then memes, I thought you might take pieces of shit like you for breakfast.

• 2:05:14Speaker 00

  Hmm.

• 2:05:17Speaker 05

  Nah.

• 2:05:18Speaker 00

  He didn't.

• 2:05:18Speaker 04

  You're a piece of shit. Breakfast.

• 2:05:20Speaker 00

  What else? What did you guys have? What else, Zach? Did you have any that didn't make the cut? You were thinking? It's fun to debate on some of these.

• 2:05:27Speaker 05

  We were, for a second, we were torn between like, is it masculine foods? Or is it like the most masculine foods you could eat? Like, is it like the?

• 2:05:34Speaker 03

  That sounds the same thing.

• 2:05:35Speaker 05

  Like, like bison and like shark and like?

• 2:05:39Speaker 03

  Buffalo.

• 2:05:39Speaker 05

  Buffalo. Like, is it like, we're going out?

• 2:05:41Speaker 00

  You guys overthink this shit.

• 2:05:43Speaker 05

  Lion and getting masculine.

• 2:05:45Speaker 00

  You have three people. I was just thinking of guy's food, guy food.

• 2:05:47Speaker 02

  It's like you eat.

• 2:05:48Speaker 00

  It basically was.

• 2:05:49Speaker 02

  What can you eat to gain its power?

• 2:05:50Speaker 00

  It basically was the most straightforward Mount Rushmore. It was like, can you just recite what we eat on football Sundays?

• 2:05:56Speaker 02

  Yeah. What about pizza?

• 2:05:57Speaker 00

  Yeah, is it meat lovers pizza?

• 2:05:59Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:05:59Speaker 00

  That is the most masculine.

• 2:06:00Speaker 02

  I think a Stromboli.

• 2:06:03Speaker 03

  I love Stromboli. I love.

• 2:06:06Speaker 02

  I've never.

• 2:06:06Speaker 03

  I don't think they have Stromboli here.

• 2:06:07Speaker 02

  Never seen a chick eat Stromboli.

• 2:06:09Speaker 03

  Yeah, I love Stromboli.

• 2:06:10Speaker 00

  Calzone too. Yeah, Calzone. Like, I've never seen a girl eat Calzone.

• 2:06:14Speaker 02

  No.

• 2:06:14Speaker 00

  That's, when you buy a Calzone, you're making like a commitment. That's a commitment to the next like day and a half of like stomach pain and, and eating.

• 2:06:22Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:06:23Speaker 00

  It's, it's a serious relationship you're getting into with a Calzone.

• 2:06:28Speaker 02

  Yeah, chicks could never.

• 2:06:29Speaker 00

  You don't, you don't, you don't flippantly order a Calzone.

• 2:06:32Speaker 02

  No.

• 2:06:32Speaker 00

  You're not like, oh yeah, let me throw on a Calzone. It's like, no, no, I'm gonna, I'm gonna sit down with this Calzone, then the Calzone's gonna sit with me.

• 2:06:38Speaker 02

  If you.

• 2:06:39Speaker 00

  For a while.

• 2:06:39Speaker 02

  If you do a Stromboli or a Calzone, you're making not just a choice for your day, you're making a commitment really for, it's pretty much a lifestyle change for the rest of your life. If you decide to eat a full Calzone or Stromboli in one sitting, you're like, okay, I've officially fucked off.

• 2:06:54Speaker 00

  Yeah, you're just, you're basically like, hey, yeah, pizza's not enough. I need double it.

• 2:06:58Speaker 02

  I give up. You win.

• 2:06:59Speaker 00

  Uh, what about Italian sub? That's, that's a masculine. I mean, that's just so many types of meat in it that you're just like.

• 2:07:08Speaker 02

  You guys are just talking about the foods that you like the most.

• 2:07:10Speaker 00

  Well, yeah.

• 2:07:11Speaker 03

  Yeah, masculine.

• 2:07:12Speaker 02

  Which is fine.

• 2:07:13Speaker 00

  Yeah, but that is, I mean, how many times have you seen?

• 2:07:15Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:07:16Speaker 03

  That's not true.

• 2:07:16Speaker 00

  A woman eating an Italian sub?

• 2:07:18Speaker 03

  Like, I love like steamed clams. That's, that's not a.

• 2:07:22Speaker 00

  Yeah, I like baked clams.

• 2:07:23Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:07:24Speaker 00

  I like sushi. That's a chick.

• 2:07:25Speaker 03

  Yeah, love sushi. That's chick food.

• 2:07:27Speaker 00

  Yeah, big time chick. I love, you know what's the one, one chick food that I love? Yogurt. That's chick food.

• 2:07:33Speaker 03

  Salmon?

• 2:07:34Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:07:34Speaker 03

  I like salmon.

• 2:07:35Speaker 02

  Yeah, salmon's chick food. Yeah.

• 2:07:37Speaker 03

  Salmon's one, one chick. We, we should have just done the chick food draft as well.

• 2:07:41Speaker 02

  We should do that next. What is the?

• 2:07:43Speaker 03

  Well, we just talk, we just gave our picks away.

• 2:07:45Speaker 02

  What's the most masculine vegetable?

• 2:07:48Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 2:07:49Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:07:50Speaker 03

  Potato?

• 2:07:50Speaker 00

  Corn? It's corn, no potato.

• 2:07:52Speaker 02

  It's a root, right?

• 2:07:52Speaker 00

  Potato.

• 2:07:53Speaker 02

  Potato's a, is that a veggie?

• 2:07:56Speaker 00

  Corn?

• 2:07:58Speaker 02

  Corn might be it.

• 2:07:59Speaker 03

  Potatoes are vegetables. Okay. They're just starchy vegetables.

• 2:08:02Speaker 00

  I'll say broccoli does take like a little bit of a, although then they, then they steam it. Yeah, they steam it and put lemon on it.

• 2:08:09Speaker 02

  It's the whole thing.

• 2:08:10Speaker 00

  Yeah, they make it a whole thing. Beef and broccoli is the most masculine vegetable.

• 2:08:15Speaker 02

  What about, uh, the taste of your own blood?

• 2:08:20Speaker 02

  Pretty masculine.

• 2:08:23Speaker 00

  Yeah, what memes?

• 2:08:24Speaker 03

  Funny, guys.

• 2:08:25Speaker 00

  Beef and broccoli, it is the, the most masculine vegetable you could eat. It's the, you had the little, the little, the little carrots in your, uh, kung pow chicken?

• 2:08:36Speaker 00

  That's the most masculine, the little peppers. Yeah. Oh, oh, chicken parm. Although chicken parm can go, chicks can eat chicken parm, for sure. Okay.

• 2:08:46Speaker 02

  The green onions that are shaved on top of a chicken parm, like the scallions. That's the most masculine vegetable.

• 2:08:52Speaker 00

  What's the most masculine dessert?

• 2:08:54Speaker 02

  You, you shaved the little, uh.

• 2:08:56Speaker 03

  Parsley?

• 2:08:57Speaker 02

  Yeah, either parsley or sometimes it's like the little bits of tiny green onion that you put on top of it.

• 2:09:02Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:09:02Speaker 03

  I don't know.

• 2:09:03Speaker 02

  It's a garnish.

• 2:09:03Speaker 03

  Chicken parm you're eating.

• 2:09:04Speaker 02

  It's not like actually part of the dish, Matt. It's like the green sprinkles they put on it.

• 2:09:08Speaker 00

  Oh, you know what chick food I like? I like tuna salad.

• 2:09:11Speaker 03

  Yeah, I love tuna salad.

• 2:09:12Speaker 00

  Chick food. Egg salad, also a chick food.

• 2:09:14Speaker 02

  Tuna salad.

• 2:09:15Speaker 00

  Very good.

• 2:09:16Speaker 02

  But I hate it when they don't put the onions into the salad.

• 2:09:20Speaker 03

  Chicken salad is a man's food.

• 2:09:21Speaker 00

  No, but chicken salad with grapes is a chick food. I love it. I love it. Dude, the grapes are so good in it. Yeah, you gotta have the onions and tuna salad.

• 2:09:30Speaker 02

  It's a must. You have to have the, what about, what about biscuits?

• 2:09:34Speaker 00

  Oh, biscuits and gravy.

• 2:09:36Speaker 02

  Yeah. That's a pretty masculine food right there.

• 2:09:38Speaker 00

  Yeah. What's more masculine, pancakes or waffles? Pancakes?

• 2:09:42Speaker 02

  Pancakes.

• 2:09:42Speaker 03

  No, waffles.

• 2:09:43Speaker 00

  Really? You think so?

• 2:09:45Speaker 02

  Oh, you need your little crunch? You need your little squares?

• 2:09:47Speaker 03

  No, the crunch, it's so soft. Pancakes are literally soft.

• 2:09:52Speaker 02

  Yeah, but pancakes are no nonsense.

• 2:09:54Speaker 03

  They're soft.

• 2:09:55Speaker 00

  Hank and Zach have just not said anything.

• 2:09:58Speaker 03

  They're just thinking about their picks. You're just, you're just thinking about your picks.

• 2:10:01Speaker 02

  I like, I like a waffle.

• 2:10:02Speaker 04

  I mean, Max and Big Hack can talk about food further. I'm just like, I know that I don't have the passion for food that you got.

• 2:10:09Speaker 03

  I.

• 2:10:09Speaker 02

  Max, Max, listen, a pancake is no frills. You just pour the batter onto the thing. A waffle is.

• 2:10:16Speaker 03

  No frills, you pour the batter on the thing.

• 2:10:19Speaker 00

  I'm with PFT here.

• 2:10:20Speaker 02

  You have to have a little.

• 2:10:20Speaker 00

  It's fancy. An iron.

• 2:10:22Speaker 02

  And it's French.

• 2:10:23Speaker 00

  Yes, Belgian.

• 2:10:24Speaker 03

  Now that I'm looking at it, yeah.

• 2:10:25Speaker 00

  Fancy. Yeah, pancake is a man's, like, you just, you just bam.

• 2:10:30Speaker 02

  Put the batter on the hot thing.

• 2:10:31Speaker 00

  Yeah, and it's also, I mean, offensive line play pancakes.

• 2:10:34Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:10:34Speaker 00

  You don't waffle someone.

• 2:10:35Speaker 03

  I did wub one time and.

• 2:10:37Speaker 04

  Get waffled.

• 2:10:38Speaker 03

  A couple of weeks ago, and they were, they did a sandwich draft and I spoke so passionately about my opinions on the sandwiches that I now I have to come back every Friday for the sandwich segment of.

• 2:10:49Speaker 00

  You played yourself into a job.

• 2:10:51Speaker 02

  He did sound like, he sounded like he was a politician when he was giving the stump speech for the Italian grinder.

• 2:10:55Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:10:56Speaker 02

  It was, it was pretty impressive, but I think most of it was because he was just sick of talking about Nick Sirianni using AI, because that was like two segments that they did on that show, and Max just refused to admit that it happened.

• 2:11:07Speaker 03

  Mm-hmm. Well, I mean, people do light reading before, before bed.

• 2:11:11Speaker 00

  Yeah. Uh, Zach, help us out here. Most masculine dessert?

• 2:11:17Speaker 02

  Uh, it, I mean, is it a pazookie? Is it ice cream with the cookie?

• 2:11:21Speaker 00

  Canoli? Pazookie?

• 2:11:22Speaker 03

  Cannoli's a good pick.

• 2:11:24Speaker 00

  Cannoli's a good pick. Shot, shot of espresso?

• 2:11:27Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:11:29Speaker 02

  I have an unpopular cannoli opinion.

• 2:11:31Speaker 00

  I don't like them. I'm with you.

• 2:11:33Speaker 02

  They're not great.

• 2:11:34Speaker 00

  I think they suck.

• 2:11:35Speaker 02

  They're not great. The shells are too hard sometimes. They're stale. Yeah.

• 2:11:38Speaker 00

  It's not a good dessert. It looks great.

• 2:11:40Speaker 02

  Every time I see cannoli, I want to eat it and I, I want to eat it thinking that the shell's gonna be soft and it's never soft and gooey. It's always.

• 2:11:47Speaker 03

  Why would it, why would you think it's gonna be soft?

• 2:11:50Speaker 02

  I want it to be soft. I know, I want it to be soft. It'd be better if it was soft, frankly.

• 2:11:53Speaker 03

  No, it wouldn't.

• 2:11:53Speaker 02

  Frankly, it'd be much better.

• 2:11:54Speaker 03

  No.

• 2:11:55Speaker 00

  PFT.

• 2:11:55Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:11:55Speaker 00

  I'll go one further. Italians don't do dessert well.

• 2:11:59Speaker 03

  We talk about tiramisu all the time.

• 2:12:01Speaker 00

  I'm not the biggest tiramisu guy, but the cookies are always dry.

• 2:12:04Speaker 02

  I, I agree. The colored cookies.

• 2:12:06Speaker 00

  The rainbow cake sucks.

• 2:12:08Speaker 02

  They're terrible.

• 2:12:08Speaker 00

  The cannoli is overrated.

• 2:12:10Speaker 03

  The cannoli is fantastic.

• 2:12:11Speaker 00

  Now, I am biased in the fact that I just like ice cream as my dessert.

• 2:12:15Speaker 03

  Gelato is.

• 2:12:16Speaker 00

  Yeah, gelato's good.

• 2:12:17Speaker 02

  It's actually different. It's much different, Max. But yeah, listen, cannolis, great food for other people? Not for me. I'm sick of pretending to like cannoli.

• 2:12:25Speaker 00

  Yeah, I agree with you.

• 2:12:26Speaker 03

  You're wrong, but that's, that's okay.

• 2:12:28Speaker 02

  I'm living my truth now.

• 2:12:29Speaker 00

  Now, I will say there is the, if you're a cannoli dip.

• 2:12:32Speaker 02

  Yeah, great.

• 2:12:33Speaker 03

  It's the same fucking thing.

• 2:12:36Speaker 00

  No, it's not. No, dude, your little cannoli, it breaks, and you take one bite and then you're just fucking holding like a mishmash.

• 2:12:42Speaker 03

  What do you think they make cannoli dip out of?

• 2:12:44Speaker 02

  Cannolis, and it's much better.

• 2:12:46Speaker 00

  Something magical.

• 2:12:46Speaker 02

  It's honestly better the less shell it has in it.

• 2:12:49Speaker 00

  Oh, most masculine dessert might be like.

• 2:12:51Speaker 03

  You're getting bad cannolis.

• 2:12:52Speaker 00

  Most.

• 2:12:53Speaker 02

  No, I've had, I've had your cannolis, Max. I've had the cannolis straight out of the heart of Philly.

• 2:12:57Speaker 00

  Oh, you know who's not gonna like this who we're seeing tomorrow? Oh, no. We should probably cut this.

• 2:13:03Speaker 00

  I mean, security mic's gonna kill us.

• 2:13:04Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:13:04Speaker 00

  He was swimming, he texted me, he's like, can I swim in your pool right now? And I was like, yeah, not where we're going pool. I don't have a pool at home. The, uh, but yeah, he's gonna kill us.

• 2:13:15Speaker 02

  Yeah, he likes.

• 2:13:15Speaker 00

  He's gonna be, he loves cannolis.

• 2:13:17Speaker 02

  Cannolis are not.

• 2:13:18Speaker 00

  He sleeps with the cannoli.

• 2:13:18Speaker 02

  They're frankly not, not very good.

• 2:13:21Speaker 00

  Maybe a bowl of Lucky Charms. Dessert, man dessert.

• 2:13:25Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:13:26Speaker 05

  Or when you.

• 2:13:26Speaker 02

  I was.

• 2:13:27Speaker 05

  Pop the Tupperware back open, you just go back for a little bit of dinner.

• 2:13:30Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's true. Yeah.

• 2:13:32Speaker 02

  I think pie. Pie is a nice masculine dessert. I also think that, um, maybe a masculine food we didn't take was when you just dry scoop protein.

• 2:13:41Speaker 00

  Hmm.

• 2:13:42Speaker 04

  Protein powder, but yeah, that, I don't think that would have been.

• 2:13:45Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:13:45Speaker 04

  Counted as a food.

• 2:13:46Speaker 00

  Oh, hey Hank, any other picks you had?

• 2:13:48Speaker 04

  No, we went through them all. Pork rinds.

• 2:13:50Speaker 00

  Yeah. Oh, pork rinds.

• 2:13:52Speaker 02

  Big miss.

• 2:13:52Speaker 00

  That's good. Maybe like alm, no, not almonds. You can't do any nuts. I was thinking peanuts.

• 2:13:58Speaker 02

  Yeah, most masculine nut.

• 2:14:00Speaker 00

  But they put it on the salad.

• 2:14:01Speaker 02

  Gotta be like a, uh, probably a.

• 2:14:03Speaker 00

  Macadamia?

• 2:14:04Speaker 02

  Maybe a pecan?

• 2:14:05Speaker 05

  Boiled peanut?

• 2:14:06Speaker 00

  Boiled peanut would be good. Yeah, walnut maybe? Walnut's not like something that anyone's trying to like.

• 2:14:13Speaker 02

  You don't, no one actually enjoys eating a walnut.

• 2:14:15Speaker 00

  No, you gotta eat it in a chicken salad or something like that. You're not like going out and getting walnuts.

• 2:14:19Speaker 02

  What about chestnuts? Max hates chestnuts. Not a titty fucker.

• 2:14:24Speaker 00

  Hmm.

• 2:14:30Speaker 00

  All right. Good show, boys. That was fun food talk.

• 2:14:34Speaker 03

  Love food.

• 2:14:34Speaker 02

  Max just narked on us.

• 2:14:36Speaker 03

  Yeah, of course.

• 2:14:38Speaker 00

  What he would.

• 2:14:39Speaker 02

  He texts the security mic being like.

• 2:14:40Speaker 00

  Oh, what the fuck, dude?

• 2:14:42Speaker 02

  You tell you dimmed us out to the cops.

• 2:14:44Speaker 03

  Fact.

• 2:14:45Speaker 00

  Why are you snitching?

• 2:14:47Speaker 02

  You're you're literally snitch, Max.

• 2:14:48Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:14:49Speaker 00

  All right, we'll have Mike on this week to defend himself.

• 2:14:51Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:14:52Speaker 00

  You will have him on to defend all Italian desserts and he's gonna probably fight us.

• 2:14:58Speaker 03

  No, I will give you most of the cooking Italian cookies are bad.

• 2:15:02Speaker 00

  Yeah. And again, I'm also speaking from a place where it's like my dessert is just ice cream. So.

• 2:15:09Speaker 02

  Should we do a.

• 2:15:09Speaker 00

  I'm not exactly a refined palate when it comes to desserts.

• 2:15:13Speaker 02

  Should we do a quick, uh, dingers only update after one month?

• 2:15:16Speaker 00

  Yeah, sure.

• 2:15:17Speaker 02

  All right, Hank's in first place with 60 dingers.

• 2:15:19Speaker 00

  There you go. By the way, I.

• 2:15:21Speaker 02

  Congrats, Hank.

• 2:15:21Speaker 00

  I found out I had four guys injured.

• 2:15:24Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:15:26Speaker 03

  You gotta stay up to date.

• 2:15:27Speaker 02

  Chasing second place, 51. Jersey Jerry, third, 49. Big Cat, fourth, 44. PFT, fifth with 43. Brandon is in sixth with 41.

• 2:15:38Speaker 03

  That's gotta be killing them.

• 2:15:40Speaker 02

  That he's in sixth?

• 2:15:40Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:15:41Speaker 02

  Yeah. Uh, Max is in seventh with 38. Memes, you're in eighth with 35. And in last place is Zach. Zach has 29.

• 2:15:53Speaker 03

  Zach has two guys who are just in the minors.

• 2:15:55Speaker 00

  And.

• 2:15:57Speaker 02

  Wait, they're they're in the minors?

• 2:15:59Speaker 03

  A couple of guys who aren't at the. They're triple A. Yeah.

• 2:16:01Speaker 00

  That is our, uh, what's what's it called?

• 2:16:03Speaker 02

  If you're in the mi- if you're in a minor.

• 2:16:05Speaker 00

  Franco?

• 2:16:05Speaker 03

  No, they're not in two minors. They're in the minors.

• 2:16:09Speaker 02

  Wait, they're inside the they're inside the minors?

• 2:16:12Speaker 03

  They're.

• 2:16:13Speaker 02

  They're inside of minors.

• 2:16:13Speaker 03

  They're inside of mi- minor league baseball.

• 2:16:15Speaker 00

  Cause we did make the Wander Franco.

• 2:16:17Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:16:17Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:16:17Speaker 05

  We have a preference which league they're hitting home runs in.

• 2:16:19Speaker 00

  That's true. Should we count his? I actually think that's fair.

• 2:16:23Speaker 02

  If you get D F.

• 2:16:23Speaker 00

  I think if you get, I think if he's hitting home runs, then tell Stephen.

• 2:16:27Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 2:16:27Speaker 00

  All minor league home runs should count.

• 2:16:29Speaker 05

  Right.

• 2:16:30Speaker 00

  Yeah, why not?

• 2:16:31Speaker 02

  I mean, there's gonna be some.

• 2:16:33Speaker 05

  Going yard is going yard.

• 2:16:33Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:16:34Speaker 02

  I'm okay with it. Um, but maybe memes and Max might not be okay with it because that might put them in the last place. I don't know.

• 2:16:41Speaker 03

  Well, from here, I'm all right with it from starting now.

• 2:16:43Speaker 00

  All right. So tell Che, starting now, Zach's minor league homer.

• 2:16:47Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 2:16:48Speaker 00

  I I'm guessing they're not gonna be hitting a lot of home runs in the minors.

• 2:16:51Speaker 02

  How many home runs is it?

• 2:16:53Speaker 03

  I there's no way it's that many.

• 2:16:54Speaker 02

  We gotta figure that out.

• 2:16:56Speaker 03

  No, starting now.

• 2:16:57Speaker 05

  What if we. It's none. Cause it's starting now. It's not.

• 2:16:59Speaker 00

  What are we agreeing on?

• 2:17:00Speaker 02

  I got two guys on on I L that is just like.

• 2:17:03Speaker 00

  I think the rules, the official.

• 2:17:04Speaker 02

  It evens it out.

• 2:17:04Speaker 00

  Official ruling should be all minor league home runs count as a half homerun.

• 2:17:09Speaker 00

  You should get a half a homerun.

• 2:17:10Speaker 02

  I'm fine with that.

• 2:17:11Speaker 03

  Yeah, allowed.

• 2:17:13Speaker 00

  Okay, so text Che and tell him that.

• 2:17:15Speaker 05

  Half, do half home runs back pay or it's half starting now as well?

• 2:17:18Speaker 03

  How about?

• 2:17:18Speaker 02

  Now.

• 2:17:19Speaker 00

  Now.

• 2:17:19Speaker 05

  Sounds good. Yeah.

• 2:17:20Speaker 00

  Starting now.

• 2:17:21Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 2:17:22Speaker 00

  Uh, and I think what we'll do is whoever loses this year, we'll just do a video in the fall with Che and the loser.

• 2:17:28Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:17:29Speaker 00

  One big video, cause we got a Che lost last year.

• 2:17:32Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:17:32Speaker 00

  So, um.

• 2:17:35Speaker 00

  Oh, Mike said we own desserts. I'm gonna have to do some research. Who, what other cult? I mean, Americans own desserts, right?

• 2:17:44Speaker 02

  Yeah, America's.

• 2:17:44Speaker 00

  Like we have Chili's lava cake.

• 2:17:46Speaker 02

  France, no, France is good. France, respect to the French desserts. Yeah.

• 2:17:50Speaker 00

  But let's let's have some pride, boys.

• 2:17:52Speaker 02

  Mexican dessert's pretty good, too.

• 2:17:53Speaker 00

  We've got it all.

• 2:17:54Speaker 03

  Churros?

• 2:17:54Speaker 02

  Yeah, churros are great. Tres leches.

• 2:17:57Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah.

• 2:17:57Speaker 02

  Tres leches is pretty good. Yeah.

• 2:18:00Speaker 00

  Oh, everything Reese's.

• 2:18:02Speaker 03

  Yeah, Reese's.

• 2:18:03Speaker 02

  Canadians do pretty good desserts, too.

• 2:18:04Speaker 03

  What do they do?

• 2:18:05Speaker 00

  Maple syrup.

• 2:18:06Speaker 03

  It's just French.

• 2:18:06Speaker 02

  syrup, syrup.

• 2:18:07Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:18:08Speaker 00

  All right, good show. Uh, let's do numbers.

• 2:18:12Speaker 02

  Seventeen.

• 2:18:12Speaker 03

  Three.

• 2:18:13Speaker 02

  Twenty.

• 2:18:13Speaker 00

  Who won it last? Shane?

• 2:18:15Speaker 03

  Shane.

• 2:18:15Speaker 00

  Shane.

• 2:18:16Speaker 03

  Six.

• 2:18:16Speaker 02

  You just won, right?

• 2:18:19Speaker 04

  Yes, sir.

• 2:18:20Speaker 03

  That's it.

• 2:18:21Speaker 02

  That was it.

• 2:18:22Speaker 04

  Oh.

• 2:18:22Speaker 02

  You give that vote back.

• 2:18:23Speaker 04

  All right, yep.

• 2:18:26Speaker 00

  Sixty six.

• 2:18:30Speaker 05

  Seven.

• 2:18:32Speaker 02

  Fifteen.

• 2:18:34Speaker 00

  Sixty nine.

• 2:18:35Speaker 03

  Twenty three.

• 2:18:37Speaker 02

  Twenty eight.

• 2:18:38Speaker 00

  The memes Shane rivalry is one of my favorite rivalries.

• 2:18:41Speaker 03

  It's pretty one sided.

• 2:18:42Speaker 00

  Cool guy.

• 2:18:44Speaker 00

  She memes just started calling Shane cool guy.

• 2:18:47Speaker 02

  You know, Shane's been playing MLB the show against Colton's brother.

• 2:18:50Speaker 00

  Yeah, he's a cool guy.

• 2:18:50Speaker 02

  Colton's brother's been kicking his ass and then sending like cookies to the office to apologize for.

• 2:18:55Speaker 00

  Oh, no. What a cock.

• 2:18:57Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:18:58Speaker 04

  I was I was cold. I hadn't played in a few months. Last game, beat his ass.

• 2:19:02Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah?

• 2:19:03Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 2:19:04Speaker 00

  How much? What's the record?

• 2:19:06Speaker 04

  Uh, I think four and one.

• 2:19:08Speaker 00

  He's four and one against you?

• 2:19:09Speaker 04

  Oh, yes, he's four and one against me. Yeah. But I came out of retirement. It's like.

• 2:19:14Speaker 00

  Yeah. You're back.

• 2:19:16Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 2:19:17Speaker 03

  Have you worked on your squad?

• 2:19:18Speaker 04

  Fuck him.

• 2:19:19Speaker 03

  Have you worked on your squad?

• 2:19:20Speaker 04

  Yes, sir.

• 2:19:30Speaker 03

  Taking a while today.

• 2:19:36Speaker 03

  There we go.

• 2:19:39Speaker 00

  Forty one.

• 2:19:40Speaker 03

  Forty one.

• 2:19:40Speaker 00

  Anyone?

• 2:19:42Speaker 03

  That one felt that one felt like it was somebody's number.

• 2:19:45Speaker 02

  It did.

• 2:19:45Speaker 03

  What do you have, Colton?

• 2:19:46Speaker 02

  Sixty nine.

• 2:19:47Speaker 00

  What do you have, memes?

• 2:19:48Speaker 02

  I have three. Never gotten it.

• 2:19:52Speaker 03

  I have gotten it.

• 2:20:02Speaker 02

  I'm on seventeen.

• 2:20:08Speaker 03

  Mom sixty nine.

• 2:20:09Speaker 02

  End of day.

• 2:20:12Speaker 00

  Eighty eight. Magic King. Showtime.

• 2:20:15Speaker 03

  Eighty eight, eighty eight.

• 2:20:16Speaker 00

  Eighty eight, eighty eight.

• 2:20:18Speaker 03

  Twenty eight.

• 2:20:19Speaker 02

  Love you guys. Happy birthday to Deion Sanders. Happy birthday to Ja Morant. Happy birthday to Darnell White. Excuse me, Darnell Wright. Happy birthday to Kylie Jenner. Happy birthday to Bob Chesney. And happy birthday to Glennie Balls.

• 2:20:37Speaker 00

  Oh, we just got an update, by the way, the Kyle Shanahan, uh, uh, car crash. Uh, it's reported that deep, it it heard it wasn't a car that hit Shanahan. It was Debo. It's an A I picture of fat Debo. And then it says Bing Bong. That was from Jerry O'Connell.

• 2:20:55Speaker 02

  That's Dr. Bing Bong.

• 2:20:56Speaker 00

  He just texted us.

• 2:20:58Speaker 02

  That reports that.

• 2:20:58Speaker 00

  Text us memes like a week late.

• 2:21:02Speaker 02

  Mm hmm.

• 2:21:03Speaker 00

  But they're great. They always make a laugh.

• 2:21:04Speaker 02

  Also, happy birthday to Marvin Harrison, Jr.

• 2:21:07Speaker 00

  It's good that you do that.

• 2:21:08Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:21:08Speaker 00

  Just that doesn't get enough.

• 2:21:09Speaker 02

  Yeah. Love you guys.