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• 0:00Speaker 00

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• 2:06Pablo Torre?

  I'm Pablo Torre, and this episode of Pablo Torre Finds Out is brought to you by Remy Martin 1738. Accord Royale. Exceptionally smooth cognac for all your game day festivities. Please drink responsibly. Because today, we're gonna find out what this sound is.

• 2:24Speaker 04

  What were you doing out there? We put you in the human body for once and you screwed it up? The water goes on the inside.

• 2:32Pablo Torre?

  Right after this ad.

• 2:41Speaker 05

  We left the house and we were like, both of us are gonna wear brown. Cause we both feel tan. Cause we went to our friend's pool.

• 2:48Speaker 06

  I was gonna wait, so. We saw that, I have discovered the sun.

• 2:51Pablo Torre?

  Hmm.

• 2:52Speaker 05

  It's good stuff.

• 2:53Speaker 06

  Why are people out there all the time? I am, I had to, last year I got, um, prescribed, like, weapons-grade vitamin D.

• 3:01Pablo Torre?

  Me, me too.

• 3:02Speaker 06

  They were like, you need to take this every day for a week. You are low.

• 3:05Speaker 05

  You guys are, they're gonna find this clip in like, um, 75 years when we're all mole people. We have to live underground. And they go, could you imagine embracing the sun?

• 3:16Speaker 06

  Yeah, well.

• 3:17Speaker 05

  It feels good.

• 3:17Speaker 06

  I've been out there and I've been using my SPF. Don't yell at me. Can I share a secret?

• 3:22Pablo Torre?

  Uh.

• 3:23Speaker 06

  Just here.

• 3:24Pablo Torre?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 3:26Speaker 06

  I started using this right before I got the sun, right before I discovered that the sun will make your skin browner. I got this lotion. And it's supposed to be self-tanning gradually, cause I'm afraid of self-tanner. Cause if you do it wrong, your skin is dyed.

• 3:39Pablo Torre?

  Your Italian heritage.

• 3:40Speaker 06

  It looks crazy. It's just like.

• 3:41Pablo Torre?

  It's a high stakes decision.

• 3:42Speaker 06

  It's scary. So I like dipped my toe in of like, this says if I use it like lotion, every day I'll get a little bit darker, which is how it's felt safe to me. I put this shit on one time. Look at my elbows. What the hell's that?

• 3:59Speaker 05

  No, I don't.

• 4:01Speaker 06

  I have crazy self-tanned elbows.

• 4:03Speaker 05

  I don't, uh.

• 4:04Speaker 06

  It's like, what the, what, this thing lied to me. I used it once. And I was like, don't have to worry about how I'm applying it. It's a tiny gradual tan. Lies.

• 4:12Speaker 05

  We're a WWE house, so there's no judgment. She's just like a pro wrestler.

• 4:18Pablo Torre?

  My mom is a dermatologist. I do not, I, this is something that she will call me about. She, she will be mad to hear that I actually just don't use suntan lotion because I'm of the opinion that I have God's natural pigmentation. You know, SPF blocker.

• 4:34Speaker 05

  You don't use blocker at all.

• 4:36Pablo Torre?

  At all, at all.

• 4:37Speaker 05

  You never, at all, your whole life?

• 4:39Pablo Torre?

  I have, oh, certainly my mom has forced it upon me. I have a makeup removal routine, which Katie has witnessed.

• 4:46Speaker 06

  Okay, yeah.

• 4:46Pablo Torre?

  In the, by the way, the seaport's closed. The ESPN studio is done.

• 4:50Speaker 06

  Shut up. I definitely still had stuff there.

• 4:52Pablo Torre?

  Yeah, I was gonna say, I don't know if you...

• 4:53Speaker 05

  You really did?

• 4:54Speaker 06

  I don't think I ever cleaned out that locker I had.

• 4:56Pablo Torre?

  Katie's possessions are now the subject of a Storage Wars episode, I presume.

• 5:01Speaker 06

  Oh, that's cool. That's how that happens.

• 5:03Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 5:03Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 5:03Speaker 05

  Wait, so they shut it all down?

• 5:05Pablo Torre?

  Yeah, they moved to a place not far from here.

• 5:08Speaker 06

  Where they have to pretend you can see the outside?

• 5:11Pablo Torre?

  Katie Nolan's possessions, though, will they be CGI replicated?

• 5:15Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 5:16Pablo Torre?

  On the new virtual set.

• 5:17Speaker 05

  What did you have in your locker?

• 5:19Speaker 06

  Don't remember.

• 5:19Speaker 05

  Nunchucks?

• 5:20Speaker 06

  Do not remember. This has happened.

• 5:21Speaker 05

  Did you have a cutout picture of Mario Lopez on the inside of your locker door?

• 5:25Speaker 06

  And I gave it a smooch every day.

• 5:30Speaker 05

  I feel like you had something super shady in there.

• 5:32Pablo Torre?

  Yeah, why did you just blow it for a beat?

• 5:35Speaker 06

  I was remembering, I was having a memory, okay? I was thinking back to my time when we worked there. It was the building where I found out that Pablo was having a baby. He like ran out of work and was like, "I need you to do I-noon. Goodbye, I'm having a baby right now."

• 5:48Pablo Torre?

  That's a fact. That is a factual...

• 5:49Speaker 06

  And I was like, "I don't, I don't..."

• 5:52Pablo Torre?

  You did break out into song.

• 5:53Speaker 06

  I did.

• 5:54Speaker 05

  And you remember Ben Affleck just ripping cigs?

• 5:56Speaker 06

  That's the other one. That is exactly what I was thinking of, is how my locker was right next to when Ben Affleck came in and ripped cigs in the ESPN office.

• 6:03Speaker 05

  Boston women, immediately their second thought is either Matt Damon or Ben Affleck. It just immediately is like...

• 6:09Pablo Torre?

  The pheromones.

• 6:09Speaker 06

  He's always right here.

• 6:10Speaker 05

  He's right here. He's right at the [bleep] tip of your head, kid.

• 6:12Speaker 06

  We're thinking of you, Ben.

• 6:13Speaker 05

  Yeah, but he was just...

• 6:15Speaker 06

  Oh, I forgot to put my contacts in in the Uber.

• 6:16Speaker 05

  Smoking cigarettes. Now you're flying blind.

• 6:18Speaker 06

  I can't see anything. Do I look okay?

• 6:20Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 6:20Speaker 06

  Should I put the sunglasses back on? Every clip I see of a woman going viral now, she's got sunglasses on.

• 6:25Pablo Torre?

  Outside of your elbows being racially profiled, everything looks totally normal.

• 6:28Speaker 06

  God, how do I get rid of this? What, do I dip them in ass?

• 6:31Pablo Torre?

  They're trying to deport your elbows.

• 6:50Speaker 05

  They wouldn't tell us at Sirius, there was a celebrity coming in and they were like, "You have to go the back way out of the thing." And, you know, immediately on the show, we're like, "We work here every day. Why do we have to go a different way?" And they're like, "No, you have to leave through the back door. You have to go like the long way and leave through the elevator bank on the backside." And we're like, "Who is coming?" And they're like, "We can't tell you." It was [bleep] Madonna. That was it.

• 7:16Speaker 06

  I mean, that was, it is crazy.

• 7:17Speaker 05

  I don't know.

• 7:18Speaker 06

  She's Madonna.

• 7:19Speaker 05

  Listen.

• 7:19Pablo Torre?

  Yeah, I'm gonna go with Katie on this one, actually.

• 7:21Speaker 06

  I know that she, didn't she like-

• 7:22Pablo Torre?

  That protocol feels appropriate.

• 7:23Speaker 06

  Is it because she, didn't she show up at the Cellar or something? She tried to stand up comedy, so I-

• 7:27Speaker 05

  She tried to stand up at the comedy-

• 7:28Speaker 06

  She has dropped-

• 7:29Speaker 05

  She's done it more than once.

• 7:30Speaker 06

  But she is still Madonna.

• 7:31Speaker 05

  She's done it more than once.

• 7:32Pablo Torre?

  Wait, wait, wait, I didn't know that.

• 7:34Speaker 05

  She's done it twice. She's done stand up at the Comedy Cellar. I haven't been there for either. Ah, I was there the first time and didn't watch. Because why would I?

• 7:44Speaker 06

  He protested.

• 7:45Speaker 05

  Actually, I don't know. I did try, I'm not gonna lie. I tried to get the video from Liz, but Liz-

• 7:49Pablo Torre?

  Oh, I was gonna say, isn't there a video of this?

• 7:52Speaker 05

  I, I love Liz and Liz is, you know, she's a real one to her job. And she's like, "I'm not gonna give you Madonna's set."

• 7:58Speaker 06

  Come on, why not?

• 7:59Pablo Torre?

  Give me Madonna's set.

• 8:00Speaker 06

  Why film it?

• 8:01Speaker 05

  Come on, I wanna watch it.

• 8:02Speaker 06

  Why film it if we can't have it?

• 8:03Speaker 05

  Because I heard the second one, she bombed for 30.

• 8:04Speaker 06

  Well, because first of all, no [bleep].

• 8:05Pablo Torre?

  I was gonna say, wait, she was there for 30 minutes?

• 8:08Speaker 05

  Yeah, that's also-

• 8:09Speaker 06

  That's ego. She can't tell her she can have five.

• 8:11Pablo Torre?

  I was gonna say, that's, that's-

• 8:12Speaker 05

  A tight six.

• 8:13Pablo Torre?

  That's in the category of, we don't typically let random pop stars do-

• 8:17Speaker 06

  This is Ben Affleck smoking in the building.

• 8:19Speaker 05

  100%.

• 8:20Pablo Torre?

  We don't give 30 minutes.

• 8:21Speaker 06

  The Cellar especially is like, you have to get passed to get up on stage there.

• 8:25Speaker 05

  Yeah, but it's the way-

• 8:26Speaker 06

  But you're not gonna say, "Madonna, sorry, no. Try the stand."

• 8:30Speaker 05

  But to her, it's just like a thing. It's, to her, it's just like-

• 8:33Speaker 06

  I know.

• 8:34Speaker 05

  "Oh, it's just a room. Oh, it's a comedy club. I don't get it." She didn't give a [bleep]. She was like, "I just wanna do this. I wanna scratch this itch." And then she did it. And then, um, the thing that I heard was that- When she was like, wasn't doing well, she was doing the thing where she was going, "You guys hate me."

• 8:49Speaker 06

  Oh.

• 8:49Speaker 05

  And they'd go, "Yeah, no, we love you." And then she'd just bomb again, and then she'd be like...

• 8:54Speaker 06

  You guys are mad at me.

• 8:56Speaker 05

  Which, so I've adopted that. So if you see me live-

• 8:58Speaker 06

  Oh, I love that.

• 8:59Speaker 05

  If a joke does not hit, I go-

• 9:01Speaker 06

  dansoder.com for tickets.

• 9:02Speaker 05

  I go, "You guys are mad at me."

• 9:04Pablo Torre?

  On tour, you can see Dan.

• 9:05Speaker 05

  Golden Retriever Tour kicking off in September.

• 9:07Speaker 06

  Let's go.

• 9:08Pablo Torre?

  Unveiling-

• 9:09Speaker 06

  Sorry to wave my elbow at you.

• 9:10Speaker 05

  No, do it, dude. I love it. I'm a wrestling fan. You're not upsetting me. I watch people in bronzer every Monday and Friday.

• 9:16Speaker 06

  Keep saying the tour thing.

• 9:18Speaker 05

  No, it's just dansoder.com, and Madonna might be opening.

• 9:21Pablo Torre?

  And Dan might be unveiling his, uh-

• 9:23Speaker 05

  You guys are mad at me.

• 9:25Pablo Torre?

  ...baby voice.

• 9:26Speaker 06

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 9:27Speaker 05

  Are you guys, do you guys hate me? Just bombing and saying that?

• 9:31Speaker 06

  I don't know, man. Somebody's gotta try it.

• 9:33Speaker 05

  Pretty good way out.

• 9:34Speaker 06

  Somebody has to try it.

• 9:35Pablo Torre?

  How, how often does it happen where someone shows up being like, "I, famous person, feel like I should be able to try my hand at this, and you should enjoy it."

• 9:46Speaker 05

  Rarely if ever. I think it's like Madonna is obviously Madonna, even though I tried to act like, "They kicked his ass, he was for Madonna."

• 9:52Speaker 06

  And it was only Madonna.

• 9:53Speaker 05

  Cause I thought it was gonna be Prince.

• 9:55Speaker 06

  Oh.

• 9:56Speaker 05

  I thought that's who it was the whole time.

• 9:57Speaker 06

  Oh, cause you got hyped on it being somebody, and then you were like, "Brrr."

• 10:00Speaker 05

  Yeah, and I was upset that it was Madonna.

• 10:02Speaker 06

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 10:02Speaker 05

  But, no, The Cellar doesn't like, uh, um, celebrities just go do stand-up. I think that was like, a unique case.

• 10:09Pablo Torre?

  I like Madonna just doing like observational comedy.

• 10:12Speaker 05

  She's like, "What's the deal with, why do I have cones on my breasts? My breasts are cones." You go, Madonna, that's brilliant. Someone has that style already.

• 10:20Speaker 06

  That's already, you're not gonna believe this, someone does that.

• 10:23Speaker 05

  "What's the deal with sex books? I put one out in the 90s." I don't even know, this isn't even a joke.

• 10:30Speaker 06

  These are good references.

• 10:31Pablo Torre?

  This is [BLEEP] facts.

• 10:32Speaker 05

  Wild.

• 10:33Pablo Torre?

  Wait, her book?

• 10:34Speaker 06

  Her sex book that she got in trouble for.

• 10:35Pablo Torre?

  Hold on, I gotta, this is, this is something that I'm unfortunately not as familiar with. Oh, it's titled Sex.

• 10:40Speaker 05

  Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, buddy.

• 10:42Speaker 06

  I believe it's called Sex Book?

• 10:43Speaker 05

  It's called Sex Book? Look it up.

• 10:45Pablo Torre?

  I think I just acquired a PDF of it.

• 10:48Speaker 06

  Oh, good. Free?

• 10:49Speaker 05

  Might be pixelated.

• 10:50Pablo Torre?

  I think I'm pirating Madonna's sex book.

• 10:52Speaker 06

  Okay.

• 10:53Pablo Torre?

  Um, I'll teach you how to [BLEEP] period.

• 10:57Speaker 06

  You don't read it out loud, I don't know, maybe.

• 10:59Pablo Torre?

  I was gonna say, is this Madonna's sex book? And page eight is...

• 11:04Speaker 05

  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 11:05Pablo Torre?

  Is that.

• 11:05Speaker 06

  Madonna's nipple.

• 11:06Pablo Torre?

  That's, that's Madonna, right?

• 11:08Speaker 05

  Oh, yeah, absolutely.

• 11:08Pablo Torre?

  Okay. I mean, she is blindfolded.

• 11:10Speaker 05

  Dude, not 80, late, late 80s.

• 11:14Speaker 05

  Back when people were still actively using-

• 11:16Speaker 06

  Pablo thinks he's circling her nipple with his cursor like I don't see it.

• 11:19Speaker 05

  Hey.

• 11:19Speaker 06

  And this, you'll see right here, this is a nipple?

• 11:21Pablo Torre?

  This is not, this is not something that, um, people need to know that I was doing.

• 11:26Speaker 06

  No, you could save-

• 11:27Pablo Torre?

  That sounds worse than it-

• 11:29Speaker 06

  You could save the tab, if you'd like.

• 11:30Speaker 05

  Yeah, this isn't a snuff film.

• 11:31Speaker 06

  We don't have to do this-

• 11:32Speaker 05

  This is a book that was released.

• 11:33Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 11:34Speaker 05

  You can buy this book-

• 11:34Pablo Torre?

  It's black and white and very tasteful.

• 11:36Speaker 05

  Yeah, it's, that was the thing. They were like, oh, it's a, it's art.

• 11:40Pablo Torre?

  Yeah.

• 11:40Speaker 05

  Get over it. Get over it, squares. You still want him sucking my finger and looking at my nipple?

• 11:45Speaker 06

  Whatever.

• 11:45Speaker 05

  That was like a big deal, though. I was obviously hitting puberty around the time that thing was coming out.

• 11:49Speaker 06

  Obviously, yeah.

• 11:50Speaker 05

  So it was like-

• 11:51Speaker 06

  Formative.

• 11:52Speaker 05

  So, so I made it look like, well, is this the book?

• 11:54Speaker 06

  Well, that, what does sex mean?

• 11:56Speaker 05

  Now I gotta go back to the bathroom.

• 11:58Speaker 06

  I'm peeing a lot. Peeing a lot and it's taking a long time.

• 12:00Speaker 05

  I drink a lot of water. Hydration's very important to me at 12 years old.

• 12:05Pablo Torre?

  I'm currently reading the New York Times review.

• 12:07Speaker 05

  Oh.

• 12:08Speaker 06

  What'd they give it?

• 12:09Pablo Torre?

  Um, the title is "The Empress Has No Clothes," so I'm guessing this is gonna lean a bit negative.

• 12:15Speaker 06

  Oh. Now that, kids, is called context clues. What Pablo's doing there would be taught in a class called Reading Comprehension.

• 12:24Speaker 05

  Do they do that anymore?

• 12:24Speaker 06

  I don't thi- it doesn't appear that way, at least.

• 12:27Pablo Torre?

  Here's the kicker. Um, "Some people think Madonna never did have talent or humor or appeal, but I am not one of them."

• 12:34Speaker 06

  Okay, that's a weird way to say that.

• 12:35Speaker 05

  She goes, "You ever seen her at the Cellar?" Oh my god.

• 12:38Pablo Torre?

  "She always had a witty edge to her act that suggested she was not taking herself too seriously. Maybe sex can be a warning about what happens when pop icons become bloated one way or another. Think of Elvis in Las Vegas and you'll have an idea of where Madonna is heading if she doesn't watch out, period." 1992, page 7 of the National Edition of the New York Times.

• 12:56Speaker 06

  Whoa.

• 12:57Pablo Torre?

  So.

• 12:58Speaker 06

  Okay.

• 12:59Pablo Torre?

  You know.

• 13:01Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 13:03Pablo Torre?

  I do appreciate, though, the, uh, the, the amount of, the amount of nipple.

• 13:08Speaker 06

  You're still looking at it while we sit here looking at you? This is your podcast.

• 13:11Pablo Torre?

  It's 132 pages.

• 13:12Speaker 06

  You invited us here to watch you look at Madonna's tits?

• 13:14Speaker 05

  It's just him go like this. Okay.

• 13:15Speaker 06

  Okay, I am, and oh, I got a lip, a lower lip.

• 13:18Speaker 05

  Anyways, Dan, how are the Giants doing?

• 13:22Speaker 06

  Whoa.

• 13:23Speaker 05

  Hey, 86, tab that. We'll re-tab that one. Anyways, Katie, what's up with your, uh, orange elbows?

• 13:29Speaker 06

  Double click. Save as.

• 13:31Speaker 05

  You just glasses on it?

• 13:32Pablo Torre?

  Gonna pin, gonna pin this.

• 13:34Speaker 05

  Oh, right, all right. Gonna do some light reading after the show.

• 13:45Pablo Torre?

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• 15:53Pablo Torre?

  Do you guys pin any tabs on your browser?

• 15:55Speaker 06

  I have a bunch pinned and then once there that bookmarks tab on my browser is full that I like the ones I can see.

• 16:01Pablo Torre?

  You do, you'll go to like tiny dot level like.

• 16:05Speaker 06

  Yeah, I usually just keep tabs open. I have to keep deleting tabs on my phone because I'm at 500 for the browsing group.

• 16:12Speaker 05

  No way, no way.

• 16:14Speaker 06

  And I'll go back through them and then I'll go like, I do still want to read that article. Not right now, but later.

• 16:20Speaker 05

  500?

• 16:20Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 16:21Pablo Torre?

  Your phone must be extraordinarily slow.

• 16:24Speaker 06

  No.

• 16:24Speaker 05

  If you go back 500, if you go to like post like.

• 16:28Speaker 06

  What do you mean if?

• 16:28Pablo Torre?

  Let's break this thing out.

• 16:29Speaker 05

  If you go to post like 50, how long ago is it?

• 16:32Pablo Torre?

  Now we're podcasting.

• 16:33Speaker 05

  Is that like 2021? You are a tab hoarder.

• 16:37Speaker 06

  Yes, I've, I've things to do.

• 16:39Pablo Torre?

  Oh my God, Katie is scrolling through.

• 16:41Speaker 05

  This is like going into your house and seeing a bunch of magazine stacks.

• 16:45Speaker 06

  This is from when we moved into the apartment.

• 16:48Speaker 05

  Great, so a couple of years ago, two years ago, two and a half years ago.

• 16:52Speaker 06

  I have a tab for custom neon sign because I was gonna make us one that said Sky Palace.

• 16:57Speaker 05

  Love it.

• 16:57Speaker 06

  And I was gonna hang it up in there.

• 16:58Speaker 05

  I do love that.

• 16:58Pablo Torre?

  Sky Palace. You guys do have a Sky Palace.

• 17:01Speaker 06

  That's what we call it. It's the best.

• 17:03Pablo Torre?

  That's why you called it that. It's a reference to something else.

• 17:05Speaker 05

  Live up tall.

• 17:06Speaker 06

  No, yeah, it's because it's a Sky Palace.

• 17:07Speaker 05

  And then we get high and get scared to sit right up high.

• 17:09Speaker 06

  Then I have an Atlantic article called Pixar's talking blobs are becoming more and more unsatisfying.

• 17:16Speaker 05

  All right, someone hating on Pixar. Don't love to see that.

• 17:18Speaker 06

  This was in 2023, June of 2023. The fantastical world of Elemental masks a lack of imagination.

• 17:23Pablo Torre?

  Were you meaning to get back to that at some point?

• 17:26Speaker 06

  Yeah, still am. That's why it's there.

• 17:27Speaker 05

  You want to go dig through the?

• 17:29Speaker 06

  I go, good headline. I do want that. Just not, I don't have a reason to need it now. And then later I'll try to remember that it exists, won't be able to find it and will be frustrated. This isn't advice on how to live your life. It's me showing my mental illness to you.

• 17:41Speaker 05

  Do you feel like any urge when you see that you go, I don't need to know that now? This was-

• 17:46Speaker 06

  If I do, I delete it.

• 17:47Speaker 05

  Yeah, so that, yeah-

• 17:48Speaker 06

  I don't feel that on that. I would still like-

• 17:50Pablo Torre?

  I was gonna say, for the audience-

• 17:51Speaker 05

  You still need to know about this Pixar-

• 17:53Pablo Torre?

  The audience needs to know Katie has kept that tab.

• 17:55Speaker 06

  Yes, and I'm keeping it, choosing again right now to keep it.

• 17:58Speaker 05

  I just wanna let everyone know, I'm currently 42 years old. That was when I was still in my 30s.

• 18:03Speaker 06

  Crazy.

• 18:04Speaker 05

  That tab was when I was still in my 30s.

• 18:06Speaker 06

  And while we're doing this, I just want everyone to know, I am still in my 30s.

• 18:09Pablo Torre?

  Was Jeffrey Epstein alive when that tab was opened?

• 18:11Speaker 05

  I don't know what you're talking about, dude. He did nothing wrong. Can we move forward?

• 18:14Speaker 06

  We don't even have a list. Why do you guys keep bringing up a list? Who mentioned the list?

• 18:18Speaker 05

  Oh my god, you guys are obsessed with J E.

• 18:20Speaker 06

  Oh my god.

• 18:21Speaker 05

  Big J E, big F.

• 18:22Pablo Torre?

  It's very normal to have footage missing one minute of the jail.

• 18:26Speaker 06

  The reason I want that Pixar thing is because as we plunge towards our AI slop future, I have imagined that like, it would be very easy sooner to AI generate an entire Pixar movie than to like, AI generate one that is supposed to look like it's really people.

• 18:46Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 18:46Speaker 06

  And I just feel like, um, I don't know, feel like there's something there. We gotta look closer.

• 18:51Speaker 05

  Yeah, alright.

• 18:52Speaker 06

  So I'm gonna keep that early.

• 18:53Pablo Torre?

  Gonna save some evidence.

• 18:54Speaker 05

  I keep thinking about how AI now, we always thought it was gonna be like, computer, you might get there. Like, computers talking and being like, aware, aware of their existence.

• 19:03Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 19:03Speaker 05

  But we've just reached the stage where it's like, um, where they do the side panels on porn websites, where it's like Peter having sex with Lois. Like, that's just where we're at with AI. Where you're like, I don't wanna watch Homer Bang Marge. I wanna like, recreate my dead father so I can have a conversation with him. I don't wanna do this.

• 19:21Pablo Torre?

  I was gonna ask you about this actually, in, in the realm of like, one of your great gifs, Dan. Which is like, are you worried that AI is gonna get good at impressions?

• 19:30Speaker 05

  They already are. It's like impress, it's like crazy. They do like, uh, and I, and I eat some of the slop. I'm acting like I don't eat slop.

• 19:37Pablo Torre?

  Wait, wait, wait, what slop are you, what, what are you?

• 19:39Speaker 05

  Hank Hill, Hank Hill Trapping. I don't know if you've seen that.

• 19:44Speaker 05

  I don't know if you've seen Hank Hill busting it out, dude.

• 19:47Pablo Torre?

  Katie's fishing through 200 tabs at the moment.

• 19:51Speaker 05

  Oh, I can find that tab.

• 19:52Pablo Torre?

  Oh, yeah, no.

• 19:53Speaker 05

  In about two seconds, but I don't know why.

• 19:56Pablo Torre?

  I don't know. Wait, this is Trap King of the Hill?

• 19:58Speaker 05

  Yeah, it just cracks me up and, uh...

• 20:00Pablo Torre?

  Oh, wait, this is... Okay, I've one after this that I do want to play for you guys.

• 20:04Speaker 05

  But this is...

• 20:04Speaker 06

  You guys are just having a slop off?

• 20:06Speaker 05

  Yeah, slop off.

• 20:07Speaker 06

  I'm over here sharing Atlantic articles and you two are like, "Check out my slop."

• 20:12Pablo Torre?

  It's July.

• 20:13Speaker 06

  I know.

• 20:13Speaker 05

  It is July. You need slop. But they're doing like full songs and I didn't know that they did like, kind of cut a full album with Hank Hill. And I'm like, all right, well, this is...

• 20:24Speaker 06

  Too much.

• 20:37Pablo Torre?

  I need AI Boomhauer to ad lib over this.

• 20:40Speaker 05

  So they got the whole album. You guys peep the album. Go follow them. I love it. I know it's gross.

• 20:46Pablo Torre?

  But that's, that's, that's, that's, I'm gonna, I'm gonna...

• 20:50Speaker 06

  We have to allow ourselves to do little, like, okay, that was stupid.

• 20:54Speaker 05

  It's so dumb.

• 20:55Speaker 06

  Like, if I slow down and I watch one video of AI cutting glass fruit.

• 20:59Speaker 05

  You love that!

• 21:00Speaker 06

  It's just one.

• 21:01Pablo Torre?

  Oh, God, you're the one who is...

• 21:03Speaker 05

  She loves it. It scratches her itch, dude.

• 21:05Speaker 06

  The way that the knife...

• 21:06Pablo Torre?

  What about it?

• 21:07Speaker 06

  Um, it's the sound the knife makes as it cuts through the glass fruit.

• 21:20Speaker 06

  It's the fact that my brain goes, "That doesn't, it doesn't matter."

• 21:24Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 21:25Speaker 06

  As soon as it starts to go, "You couldn't possibly," it goes, "Shh."

• 21:28Speaker 05

  There's a reason, listen, all of this is coming to fruition. This was MKUltra, and it's all coming to fruition now where they're finding ways to scratch our brains like dogs.

• 21:38Pablo Torre?

  Yeah.

• 21:38Speaker 05

  Where it scratches a certain thing because...

• 21:41Pablo Torre?

  That's exactly what's up.

• 21:41Speaker 06

  Because everything feels bad, so we're all just going, "Can I feel good for a second?"

• 21:46Speaker 05

  But like Katie hates ASMR, but that is kind of a form of ASMR because you're hearing the...

• 21:50Speaker 06

  Who said that?

• 21:51Speaker 05

  I thought you didn't like ASMR.

• 21:53Speaker 06

  It doesn't do for me what it does for the people it does it for.

• 21:56Pablo Torre?

  Sorry, you're more of an AI knife cutting glass.

• 21:59Speaker 06

  Yeah, those are ASMR. Those are ASMR.

• 22:01Speaker 05

  But they found a way. That's what I'm saying. They like found a way to where you go, I don't need that scratched. And you go, except if you scratch it like that, that's exactly what I want.

• 22:08Speaker 06

  I do like that. But you got it. You have to go and now we're done.

• 22:11Pablo Torre?

  Your foot is tapping on the ground rapidly as you're watching this.

• 22:13Speaker 06

  And now we're done with you. And then you go to shut the door.

• 22:15Speaker 05

  And I love videos of guys with dreads, like big dreads.

• 22:20Speaker 06

  We were talking about AI.

• 22:21Speaker 05

  Getting there. I know, but I'm talking about scratching that itch.

• 22:23Pablo Torre?

  You're talking, that's, that's again, that's in the Dr. Pimple Popper Coaching.

• 22:26Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 22:26Speaker 06

  Yes, that's right. That's exactly. Everybody's got their pimple dread shade, whatever it makes you feel relief when it happens to whatever it is.

• 22:33Speaker 05

  Like people with a ton of hair and then they cut it and they're like, oh, look at all that. The water hitting their scalp.

• 22:38Speaker 06

  So like washing a dog.

• 22:40Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 22:40Pablo Torre?

  This is the, the AI.

• 22:42Speaker 06

  This could be anything.

• 22:43Pablo Torre?

  Uh, this is Homer Simpson.

• 22:45Speaker 05

  Yeah, bang.

• 22:47Speaker 06

  In front of Barney?

• 22:49Pablo Torre?

  This is, this is, this is him, this is him romancing Marge by performing at a concert that is populated by AI-generated cartoon characters. But this is Homer singing.

• 23:02Speaker 06

  So elaborate.

• 23:04Pablo Torre?

  Starlight by Muse.

• 23:10Speaker 06

  Beautiful. Homer's got a lovely voice. And Shrek is into it.

• 23:14Speaker 05

  Big Muse, big Muse guy. Also Shrek loves Muse too.

• 23:18Speaker 06

  Shrek loves Muse.

• 23:19Speaker 05

  He'll come out of the forest for it.

• 23:20Pablo Torre?

  In other words, Dan, you are not worried. You are mostly kind of.

• 23:24Speaker 05

  It's inevitable. What am I gonna do?

• 23:25Speaker 06

  But I also think, if I may, my favorite thing about your ability to do voices isn't just that you do voices. It's that you then apply it to make whatever joke you've made funnier.

• 23:34Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 23:35Speaker 06

  It's always been my issue with people that do voices that everyone's like, oh, you're offended? I'm like, no, it just didn't serve the joke. It was the joke itself was you doing the voice. Whereas I'd rather you use the voice to tell a joke and Dan does that. Let me finish complimenting you. AI will never be, I think the last thing AI is gonna be good at is humor. I don't think AI is funny.

• 23:58Pablo Torre?

  Oh, I agree. I agree with that.

• 23:59Speaker 06

  It's like too hard for it to get, it tries too hard in a way that you're like, you don't get it.

• 24:04Pablo Torre?

  Because humor is fundamentally social, implicit, context clues.

• 24:09Speaker 06

  Right.

• 24:09Pablo Torre?

  And that's like the deepest layer.

• 24:12Speaker 06

  That's so true, Baba. That's so true.

• 24:14Speaker 05

  Humans, we're very emotional. We're like the most emotional animal ever. So I don't think AI will be able to replicate that because like, especially with music, when you hear AI music now, you're like, it is, it misses something.

• 24:27Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 24:27Speaker 05

  It misses like soul to it.

• 24:29Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 24:29Speaker 05

  There's no like, you can, they can make it sound pleasing or whatever. And I know mute with music especially, you can trick it by like the counts and stuff that you're like, it is somewhat mathematical, but I just think AI will never be able to replicate like the human soul.

• 24:43Speaker 06

  If you read something written by ChatGPT or like, what's the Twitter one, Grok?

• 24:47Pablo Torre?

  So we're, we're speaking by the way.

• 24:49Speaker 06

  Smarmy humor.

• 24:50Pablo Torre?

  At, Grok at this moment has been like actually deactivated.

• 24:55Speaker 06

  He's going, oh, he's there off. They turned it off.

• 24:57Pablo Torre?

  People are trying to ask Grok and Grok is not responding.

• 25:00Speaker 05

  Grok's gonna be the first Netflix doc about AI where he was like, I was mistreated. If Elon ever sells off Grok and someone else buys it, they do the Netflix doc where they're like, were you abused? He told me to be liberal, then conservative, and then liberal again.

• 25:15Pablo Torre?

  Grok is being managed like a boy band right now.

• 25:17Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 25:17Speaker 06

  Crazy.

• 25:18Speaker 05

  Yeah, Elon's his Lou Pearlman. I think the problem with humans is we're starting to give like kids Ozempic and [BLEEP]. And they're like, we're like losing our funny and lonely kids.

• 25:27Pablo Torre?

  Mmm.

• 25:27Speaker 05

  Like doing voices was a thing out of pure loneliness, just like being funny for myself. And then fat kids, you need fat kids. We need.

• 25:35Pablo Torre?

  Right. AI Macho Man doesn't have the trauma that.

• 25:38Speaker 05

  No, he's gotta be alone, learning how to cut promos on his [BLEEP] roommate. Cause you know, AI didn't have to clean a sink full of dishes and get mad about it.

• 25:46Speaker 06

  Here's a question. I was thinking about this yesterday. Sometimes I, in this current climate, hesitate to say something I think because someone's gonna ascribe me a political party and then say that that's what I, and so I, but what political party is this? If I feel like in terms of wealth, if you reach a certain amount, like let's say however much Peter Thiel has, we should be able to find you when you say in an interview, something along the lines of, I don't know if humanity should exist forever and continue.

• 26:17Pablo Torre?

  You would prefer the human race to endure, right? You're hesitating.

• 26:22Speaker 10

  Yeah, well, I.

• 26:23Pablo Torre?

  Yes?

• 26:23Speaker 10

  I don't know. I, I would.

• 26:26Speaker 10

  I would, um... This is a long hesitation. There's so many questions implicit in this. Should the human race survive?

• 26:36Speaker 06

  We should be able to find you the way that the NBA would find a player when they disparage the refs.

• 26:40Speaker 05

  Oh, when they go like, "That call is bull..."

• 26:42Speaker 06

  And then they go like, "You gotta give us $25,000. You can't do that." It undermines the game.

• 26:46Speaker 05

  Peter Thiel would feel like you're trying to wipe out humanity. You gotta give us $2 billion.

• 26:50Pablo Torre?

  There should be replay review.

• 26:52Speaker 06

  Yes, and we should go, "Watch, show that..." First of all, stop doing interviews. That guy can't talk comfortably.

• 26:58Pablo Torre?

  This video, Katie's description, is not in any way an exaggeration.

• 27:01Speaker 05

  No, he goes, "Do you think humanity should..." The guy asks it pretty flat out.

• 27:07Speaker 06

  And he's like, "It's sounding like you're hesitating quite a bit."

• 27:09Pablo Torre?

  Ross Douthat, who's like the New York Times conservative columnist, who's just like, kind of like putting a question on a T.

• 27:16Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 27:17Pablo Torre?

  And...

• 27:18Speaker 05

  Hey, humans are... You still like humans, right? And he goes, "I..."

• 27:21Pablo Torre?

  Peter Thiel's just like Nomar Garcia Parra-ing.

• 27:23Speaker 06

  Yes!

• 27:25Pablo Torre?

  Like verbal, verbal, you know, wristband adjustment for 30 seconds.

• 27:31Speaker 06

  It's the way, every interview I see of this guy, he's wet in a wrong way. Something is moist that isn't, and it's wrong. And he's like breathing funny, and he takes these long pauses that like, "I'm trying to teach myself to slow down and allow some silence." He is the worst case. You leave so much silence, and then he does the like, "Well, and I, um, and I..." And he seems so nervous, that you're like...

• 27:56Pablo Torre?

  A lot of buffering, a lot of physical buffering.

• 27:59Speaker 06

  I don't like somebody... I know you're full of boy blood, but I don't like somebody that nervous...

• 28:03Pablo Torre?

  Alleged blood boys.

• 28:04Speaker 06

  That nervous to have that much money and to be running our upcoming, uh, human experiments known as the whatever Olympics that he's doing.

• 28:12Speaker 05

  Oh, he's doing the Roy Awards.

• 28:14Speaker 06

  Funding the Roy Olympics, and he's so nervous.

• 28:16Speaker 05

  I think he goes back to the spaceship and they go like, "What were you doing out there? We put you in the human body for once and you screwed it up? The water goes on the inside." And he goes like,

• 28:28Speaker 11

  "Why? I don't know. I was stressed out. They asked me about humans. I was... You want me to tell them that they're supposed to live?"

• 28:34Speaker 06

  Ross Douthat is a very skilled interviewer.

• 28:37Speaker 11

  Oh, come on, we set it up.

• 28:39Pablo Torre?

  It was a gotcha question.

• 28:40Speaker 11

  The liberals go too much off emotion, the conservatives off just stuff they hear.

• 28:47Speaker 06

  Peter Thiel needs a Jordan.

• 28:50Pablo Torre?

  Wow.

• 28:50Speaker 06

  To jump in and go.

• 28:51Pablo Torre?

  He needs to be momaged.

• 28:52Speaker 06

  We're not talking about that.

• 28:53Speaker 05

  Oh, yeah.

• 28:54Speaker 06

  He needs to be momaged so badly.

• 28:56Speaker 05

  Yeah, just go get a, you know.

• 28:57Speaker 06

  I don't know, dude. Just what are you doing? You make me so uncomfortable.

• 29:00Pablo Torre?

  Wait, I want, I want Peter Thiel to have a, to have a Jordan Hudson.

• 29:04Speaker 06

  It's just a wild.

• 29:05Pablo Torre?

  It really would help, actually.

• 29:06Speaker 05

  We don't talk about that. I mean, he could afford one. He could afford like the biggest king [BLEEP] out there. Just pay a lady like, you know, a hundred million.

• 29:12Speaker 06

  The biggest king [BLEEP].

• 29:14Speaker 05

  Yeah, just to go like, man or a woman, just to go.

• 29:16Pablo Torre?

  Non-duragatory.

• 29:17Speaker 05

  Non-duragatory. We're just going like, hey, we're not talking about that. I'll do it. Hey, he doesn't answer questions about humans, you stupid [BLEEP]. And then Peter goes, thank you, Dan. And I go, you're welcome. I'll be eating my crap.

• 29:29Speaker 06

  Throw a fish in his mouth.

• 29:30Speaker 05

  When he throws a treat.

• 29:32Pablo Torre?

  It does feel like Peter Thiel.

• 29:33Speaker 05

  By the way, I'm buying a compound on New Zealand because this thing's about to get fried.

• 29:38Pablo Torre?

  Peter Thiel does have, uh, Men in Black.

• 29:41Speaker 06

  Yes.

• 29:41Pablo Torre?

  Cockroach guy alien.

• 29:42Speaker 06

  What's his fucking deal?

• 29:44Speaker 05

  He's got any sugar.

• 29:45Speaker 06

  What's his deal?

• 29:47Speaker 05

  More.

• 29:48Speaker 06

  Oh, yeah, as I'm saying that, should I, he's gay, right? I didn't mean to say that he needs a Jordan in the sense that he needs to.

• 29:54Pablo Torre?

  Yeah, that's the part that he'll be offended by.

• 29:55Speaker 06

  I didn't mean to, yeah, I'm sorry. I didn't mean to do that. I forgot for a second.

• 29:59Speaker 05

  That, uh, that's the reason he shut down Gawker.

• 30:02Speaker 06

  Yeah, that's the whole thing.

• 30:03Speaker 05

  He funded Hogan.

• 30:04Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 30:04Pablo Torre?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 30:05Speaker 05

  What you gonna do when I get funded by a billionaire?

• 30:08Speaker 06

  I just think we should be able to say, you have to pay us money. You can't do that.

• 30:12Speaker 05

  I'm gonna go, ew, why are you wet?

• 30:15Speaker 05

  That's what I'm sorry.

• 30:16Speaker 06

  What's this?

• 30:16Speaker 05

  Ew, you dewy ass.

• 30:18Speaker 06

  What's this?

• 30:18Speaker 05

  Shut your dewy ass up. He's like, oh, um, I need more sugar.

• 30:34Speaker 06

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• 31:44Speaker 06

  I wish we had like a cool villain. All the villains we got are like-

• 31:47Speaker 05

  Yeah, Bond villains were cool.

• 31:48Speaker 06

  They got no taste, no style, no-

• 31:51Speaker 05

  Where is the volcano with the opening platform?

• 31:55Pablo Torre?

  So I think I have an answer.

• 31:57Speaker 06

  That Bezos wedding was like, what is this?

• 31:58Pablo Torre?

  So the Be-

• 31:59Speaker 05

  Bezos, it was a Bond villain.

• 32:00Speaker 06

  Why is there gray carpet in the forest or whatever?

• 32:03Pablo Torre?

  The Bezos wedding would have been a Bond villain wedding if it was like on an inaccessible island.

• 32:10Speaker 05

  That's what they should have done.

• 32:11Pablo Torre?

  It was instead in Times Square. It was in Italian Times Square.

• 32:15Speaker 05

  It should have been on like Dead Man's Island.

• 32:16Pablo Torre?

  Skull Island.

• 32:17Speaker 06

  Wasn't it right off of Venice? Like it's not, it wasn't on the main Venice.

• 32:21Pablo Torre?

  No, they were all staying in hotels in Venice. And then there was like a thing that was-

• 32:24Speaker 06

  Like a separate island.

• 32:25Pablo Torre?

  Slightly more removed.

• 32:27Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 32:27Pablo Torre?

  But it was very photographable. I think the people who are doing the villain stuff that you guys are describing, so this is, I will anonymize this story because legal reasons. But I was just talking to somebody who inadvertently wound up on a boat that he claims involved another boat following it.

• 32:51Pablo Torre?

  And that boat was full of, and this is, again, this is not something I've reported, just a story I was just told, was full of prostitutes and it like docked inside the bigger boat.

• 33:03Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 33:04Pablo Torre?

  And.

• 33:04Speaker 05

  Little, little preview of things to come.

• 33:06Pablo Torre?

  And, and it, it went to a Caribbean island and the owner of the boat was revealed to be,

• 33:13Pablo Torre?

  I think this is general enough for me to say, a Russian billionaire who also owns a very prominent soccer team.

• 33:18Speaker 05

  No way.

• 33:19Pablo Torre?

  So I'm like, when I heard that story, this was.

• 33:21Speaker 05

  Guys live in GTA. Guys live in Grand Theft Auto in real life. Whole boat of hookers into bigger boat and then we do Hooker Island. Like that's the party you want to go to, not Bezos is where they're all giving like.

• 33:34Pablo Torre?

  That's all we're asking.

• 33:34Speaker 05

  Like.

• 33:35Pablo Torre?

  Why can't, why can't American billionaires do that?

• 33:39Speaker 05

  I'll tell you what, I know we've been on the boy, I know we've been on old Peter Thiel, but this steroid Olympics.

• 33:46Speaker 06

  People are gonna die.

• 33:47Speaker 05

  Well, we're, we're reaching the part of society where that will, Running Man is like, there's a new one coming out, which doesn't look that good.

• 33:54Speaker 06

  There is?

• 33:55Speaker 05

  Glenn Jacobs is Arnold's role in Running.

• 33:57Speaker 06

  Jacobs?

• 33:58Speaker 05

  Or what's his name? No, who's the guy that was in?

• 34:00Pablo Torre?

  Oh, Glenn Powell.

• 34:02Speaker 05

  Glenn Powell.

• 34:03Pablo Torre?

  Who's in everything now.

• 34:04Speaker 06

  Jacobs, I do recognize that name. Who is that? Was that my old boss at ESPN? I think it is.

• 34:09Pablo Torre?

  I think so.

• 34:09Speaker 06

  Glenn Jacobs.

• 34:11Pablo Torre?

  Glenn Jacobs was named, was recently named Vice President of Production for MMA.

• 34:17Speaker 05

  I just.

• 34:18Speaker 06

  Shut up Glenn Jacobs, he was my first boss at ESPN before they moved him around and reorged and reorged and reorged and then I think laid him off.

• 34:24Speaker 05

  Is that Kane's name from WWE?

• 34:27Speaker 06

  Maybe.

• 34:28Speaker 05

  Can you check if that's Kane from WWE, now the mayor of?

• 34:32Pablo Torre?

  Glenn Thomas Jacobs, also known by his ring name Kane.

• 34:35Speaker 05

  Son of a, that's Kane. I wish you could hit the red effects.

• 34:41Pablo Torre?

  Did he do that when in 2018? He became the mayor of Knox County, Tennessee.

• 34:47Speaker 05

  Oh, yeah.

• 34:47Speaker 06

  Damn, Knox County feels like a popular county in Tennessee. I feel like I've. Would that be where Knoxville is?

• 34:52Pablo Torre?

  Um, Katie, it's county seat is Knoxville.

• 34:56Speaker 05

  Back to this steroid Olympics.

• 34:58Speaker 06

  You're excited for it?

• 34:59Speaker 05

  It's just, no, I'm not. I feel the same way about it as I do about a Paul Brother boxing.

• 35:04Pablo Torre?

  I get the gist.

• 35:05Speaker 05

  If it hits me on the right Saturday.

• 35:07Speaker 06

  I think someone's gonna die. I just think they're gonna put too much stuff in. They're gonna, their heart's gonna [bleep].

• 35:13Pablo Torre?

  It's gonna be like that jack dog that looks like it can't walk.

• 35:15Speaker 05

  Yeah, the [bleep]. Where you get those pipples that you're like, it's just muscle.

• 35:18Speaker 06

  Or the kangaroos too. Have you ever seen giant yoked kangaroos?

• 35:21Speaker 05

  I think they wanna compete.

• 35:23Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 35:23Speaker 05

  So I think they're gonna be pushing their, whatever sport they're doing. Yeah, it could end up in death, but I don't think they're gonna be like, do you think they're gonna be like hot dog balls of muscle?

• 35:32Speaker 06

  I don't know, I think they're gonna try, they're, the way they're marketing it now, and it has changed over the years since they've had this idea. But the current angle they're taking, which seems to be working, is that they wanna test the limits of human, like, capability.

• 35:46Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 35:46Speaker 06

  And so they're like, you're holding us back by saying we can't use these drugs to enhance our bodies to achieve more.

• 35:52Pablo Torre?

  So, so in fact, to unite some, some, some stray threads we've been dangling here. Uh, the idea is the brainchild of Dr. Aaron De Souza, the Australian lawyer who helped mastermind Thiel's proxy war against news media organization Gawker, which led to Gawker's bankruptcy in 2016. Furthermore, in a recent interview with The Independent, De Souza was defiant and outlined how he hoped the enhanced games would not only shake up the world of sport, but provide a public platform for life extending science to thrive. Quote, "This is the route towards eternal life."

• 36:24Speaker 05

  Yes, yes.

• 36:26Pablo Torre?

  This is a said.

• 36:27Speaker 05

  That's never gone wrong.

• 36:28Speaker 06

  I can't.

• 36:28Speaker 05

  Anyone that's ever sought that out has nev, nothing bad has ever happened.

• 36:32Speaker 06

  I.

• 36:33Speaker 05

  Only good can come from this.

• 36:35Speaker 06

  Can't relate to the desire to want to live forever.

• 36:40Speaker 05

  Well, my love, that's because you have depression.

• 36:41Speaker 06

  How many people are out here going, "This, but always."

• 36:46Pablo Torre?

  Katie, I.

• 36:47Speaker 06

  Not me. Not me. I'm going, "How much longer do we have to do this for?"

• 36:53Speaker 05

  What is left on the clock?

• 36:54Speaker 06

  When do I get to go to sleep?

• 36:57Pablo Torre?

  I will say, your internet search history suggests that you plan on living forever.

• 37:01Speaker 06

  Well, let me go back, because we really did only get to one article there, and there's a lot in here.

• 37:05Speaker 05

  What if I told you, you could live? Forever.

• 37:08Speaker 06

  How to reheat chicken parm, always important.

• 37:11Pablo Torre?

  How to reheat?

• 37:12Speaker 06

  Don't want to do that wrong.

• 37:12Speaker 05

  I'm gonna step in as your, you know, future husband and tell you to keep that tab.

• 37:17Speaker 06

  I do, that's, yeah.

• 37:19Pablo Torre?

  What's wrong?

• 37:19Speaker 06

  I'm thinking of you all.

• 37:20Speaker 05

  I saw you go to that X.

• 37:22Pablo Torre?

  What's the strategy?

• 37:22Speaker 06

  Right next to it, Ronnie Lott signature. It was your birthday.

• 37:26Pablo Torre?

  I was gonna say, either you're-

• 37:27Speaker 05

  Greatest, greatest safety.

• 37:28Pablo Torre?

  You were trying to steal Ronnie Lott's identity or getting Dan a great birthday gift.

• 37:32Speaker 05

  Yep.

• 37:33Speaker 06

  Which is it?

• 37:34Pablo Torre?

  What, what, what's wrong with normal chicken parm reheating?

• 37:37Speaker 06

  With chicken parm, you have the chicken.

• 37:39Pablo Torre?

  It's real teal, like.

• 37:40Speaker 06

  You have the chicken, that, you know, a microwave heats from the inside out. So that's something to keep in mind. So you have the chicken that you need to get warm. You have the breading that you need to get crispy. That could get soggy pretty easily, you don't want that. And then you have cheese that you don't want. I don't, are we having a contest of how to do it? I can click on the tab and tell you what it says.

• 37:57Pablo Torre?

  As someone who often reheats chicken parm, now I'm like, this is a bit of news I can use.

• 38:01Speaker 05

  Yeah, we gotta find out what you do.

• 38:01Speaker 06

  You want everything to be reheated in a way that makes, the best place to heat up the dish is in the oven. The dry heat will make sure the breaded chicken has a perfectly crisp texture and that your pasta doesn't get too soggy. Well, this is assuming you have pasta in there too. I would do that separately, so that's crazy.

• 38:15Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 38:16Speaker 06

  I don't know, maybe this is a bad link too.

• 38:18Pablo Torre?

  There are a lot of paragraphs in this.

• 38:20Speaker 06

  Instant pots? I don't know what that is. I don't know what an instant pot is.

• 38:23Pablo Torre?

  This is a choose your own adventure of-

• 38:25Speaker 06

  Stove top, it tells you how to do it in all the different ways. To do it in a skillet if you want, this is basically, yes, choose your own adventure.

• 38:30Speaker 05

  I know we were, we were talking about your locker earlier at ESPN, but this does feel like the end of the school year, cleaning out your locker and being like, oh, I found this. I was supposed to turn this assignment in and I didn't. That's what it feels like.

• 38:42Speaker 06

  The New Yorker 100, The Case Against Travel by Agnes Callard. It turns us into the worst version of ourselves while convincing us that we're at our best.

• 38:52Speaker 05

  Huh, interesting, save that.

• 38:54Speaker 06

  And as a lady who likes to sit, I was like, I love when somebody advocates loudly for just sitting.

• 38:59Speaker 05

  Back to the Roit Olympics, do they have a date? Do they have like any?

• 39:03Speaker 06

  Yes.

• 39:04Speaker 05

  So it's gonna happen.

• 39:05Pablo Torre?

  Yeah, it's next summer, I think.

• 39:05Speaker 06

  In Vegas and it's, I think next, or October.

• 39:07Speaker 05

  Of course, it's Vegas.

• 39:08Speaker 06

  Something's telling me October, but-

• 39:09Pablo Torre?

  May 2026, the Enhanced Games, and it is in Las Vegas.

• 39:14Speaker 05

  And is it like track and field?

• 39:16Pablo Torre?

  They are scheduled to include track and field, swimming, weightlifting, gymnastics-

• 39:21Speaker 05

  That's gonna be crazy.

• 39:21Pablo Torre?

  And combat sports.

• 39:23Speaker 05

  Combat sports is the dangerous.

• 39:26Speaker 05

  But man, I'm not gonna be able to turn away.

• 39:28Speaker 06

  I know.

• 39:28Pablo Torre?

  I mean, admittedly, we've been like, we've been talking about this on our show a lot. Like, should we, in terms of like, should we do this on our show? Uh, and at every turn, I'm just kinda like, again, I kinda get it. But now, now that I hear about this eternal life thing, I'm like, mm.

• 39:43Speaker 05

  It's so funny that that's, it's like, not a good commercial for that, where they go, and we think it's a good commercial for eternal life. You should go, just start with extending it. Start with extending it.

• 39:54Speaker 06

  If it's you and me and we're still around, I would live with you forever. But like, if I, if you, if anything happens, if anything happens to you, and then I, they figure out eternal life, and I'm like, what the hell?

• 40:04Speaker 05

  Yeah, guys, we already covered this. It's called Dracula.

• 40:07Speaker 06

  Yeah. Damn.

• 40:08Speaker 05

  Guys, we've already, Anne Rice and Bram Soder have covered this topic.

• 40:12Pablo Torre?

  Can I tell you guys about one tab that I've been meaning to show both of you?

• 40:16Speaker 06

  Yeah. Unless it's the sex book again, Pablo. I know what a nipple looks like.

• 40:19Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 40:20Pablo Torre?

  I minimize that.

• 40:21Speaker 06

  I have three of them.

• 40:22Speaker 05

  Some of us were there when the book came out.

• 40:24Speaker 06

  Okay.

• 40:25Pablo Torre?

  The thing I wanted to show you actually is this.

• 40:29Speaker 12

  Drive the fuck up there, or you're gonna get food of the fuck out of here.

• 40:32Pablo Torre?

  Have you guys seen this?

• 40:32Speaker 06

  Oh, yes.

• 40:33Pablo Torre?

  Dan, have you seen this?

• 40:35Speaker 12

  I fucking promise you that. Hurry up.

• 40:38Pablo Torre?

  We're on a golf course.

• 40:38Speaker 12

  Oh, he's not. Not that fucking tough.

• 40:41Speaker 05

  They sound Canadian.

• 40:42Pablo Torre?

  This is Canada.

• 40:43Speaker 12

  You're tough. You're not tough. You're not tough. Let's get going. Get going.

• 40:48Pablo Torre?

  So, smaller guy in like, a very loud Dan Flashes shirt.

• 40:53Speaker 12

  This is not golf.

• 40:54Pablo Torre?

  Sunglasses shorts.

• 40:56Speaker 12

  You can't even.

• 40:57Speaker 05

  This is golf. This is golf now.

• 40:58Speaker 12

  You guys can't even stand into your ball up now. He's not teeing it up. He's standing.

• 41:03Speaker 05

  God, they're Canadian.

• 41:04Speaker 12

  Police out here? No, we don't need police. We're not. Okay, then let's get going.

• 41:07Speaker 05

  You need me to go get a guy, bud?

• 41:09Speaker 12

  Get going. This is not fun. We're what? Now throw in this fucking lane?

• 41:13Speaker 05

  Guys, just casually lining up a shot.

• 41:16Speaker 12

  No, fuck you both.

• 41:16Pablo Torre?

  Beautiful blue sky.

• 41:17Speaker 12

  This is fucking bull.

• 41:18Speaker 06

  God doesn't know how to film. The action.

• 41:21Speaker 05

  They're still mad.

• 41:22Speaker 12

  Twenty-three minutes. I'll drive on it.

• 41:24Speaker 05

  That is crazy.

• 41:25Pablo Torre?

  So that's the dispute at the core of this.

• 41:29Pablo Torre?

  And this short guy-ish with the shirt, the loud shirt and the glove and the shorts.

• 41:35Speaker 05

  I love a guy hitting a cry about it.

• 41:37Speaker 06

  Abort it.

• 41:38Pablo Torre?

  And he has the high ground.

• 41:40Speaker 05

  Oh, glasses are off. Still got the golf glove. Oh, golf hand. Nice. Take the glove off.

• 41:46Pablo Torre?

  Gloveless. He's degloved.

• 41:50Speaker 05

  He's a boot?

• 41:53Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 41:55Speaker 12

  Pack up. Go now.

• 41:58Speaker 06

  Cameraman's on whose side?

• 41:59Pablo Torre?

  Hard to tell so far.

• 42:01Speaker 05

  This guy clapping like a-

• 42:02Pablo Torre?

  This guy's doing a hockey dance.

• 42:06Speaker 12

  Come on, man. Hey.

• 42:08Speaker 05

  Is he going to the lake?

• 42:09Speaker 06

  Get in the water.

• 42:10Speaker 05

  Yeah. Squish Flash taking a bath.

• 42:16Speaker 05

  Oh, he's coming out of the water. Swamp thing. Swamp thing.

• 42:21Speaker 05

  Boop him.

• 42:23Speaker 05

  Boop. He's a big boy, too.

• 42:27Speaker 05

  Stop, guy.

• 42:30Speaker 05

  Oh, my God. Oh. He's saying bang?

• 42:33Pablo Torre?

  He's saying bang.

• 42:38Speaker 05

  Dude, this guy is just like, nah, you know what?

• 42:40Speaker 06

  God, he won't stop.

• 42:44Speaker 05

  That's a big brother toss. Please get up. Come back for more. Come back for more. He's the term hater.

• 42:51Speaker 06

  My shirts are falling off.

• 42:55Speaker 05

  Smashing someone's face and saying bang is objectively hilarious.

• 42:59Pablo Torre?

  Mike greening him as you're-

• 43:01Speaker 06

  You have to reveal that we, that who they are.

• 43:04Pablo Torre?

  So, when you said, "This is gonna live forever," uh, the guy who is the, well, I, he's not the aggressor, actually, but he is the guy-

• 43:11Speaker 06

  Bang, bang, bang guy.

• 43:12Pablo Torre?

  Bang, bang, banging that guy's face. I texted a phone number we acquired for him because we identified him, and the internet has now identified him, as a gentleman by the name of Nick Tarnaski.

• 43:24Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 43:24Pablo Torre?

  Who you may vaguely recall from his previous life as NHL enforcer.

• 43:31Speaker 05

  I mean-

• 43:32Pablo Torre?

  He played for the Tampa Bay Lightning, National Predators and Florida Panthers. According to data from hockeyfights.com, his professional fight record

• 43:40Speaker 05

  Oh my god.

• 43:41Pablo Torre?

  totals 167 fights.

• 43:43Speaker 06

  Which explains the "I tried to tell you to shut up" energy. Like, I warned you.

• 43:49Speaker 05

  Also makes the guy, when he's going, "Woo! Woo!" You're like, "Buddy, you have no idea what... The tree you're barking up right now is absolutely..."

• 43:59Speaker 06

  "You have to listen to me. You do not want..."

• 44:01Speaker 05

  That's the coolest moment where he goes,

• 44:03Speaker 06

  "Do not want this."

• 44:03Speaker 05

  "I'm trying to give you my Liam Neeson."

• 44:05Speaker 06

  "Please, please, please, please."

• 44:07Speaker 05

  "I have acquired a certain amount of CTE in the NHL. I'm about to unleash that CTE."

• 44:12Speaker 06

  "Once I start, it's not gonna stop. I'm gonna drag on you."

• 44:16Speaker 05

  "I will put you in the swamp. You will come back out. I will say bang, bang, bang." I like that he's calling bang.

• 44:23Speaker 06

  And also the technique.

• 44:24Speaker 05

  He's like Emerald Lagasse. He's like, "Bang! Boom! We're gonna make this spicy! Ababosh!" Yeah, that's the coolest [BLEEP]. If I could fight, I would absolutely be saying bang as I rang a dude's bell.

• 44:36Speaker 06

  I'd sound out of breath embarrassed. I'd be like, "Bang!"

• 44:38Speaker 05

  Please, someone-

• 44:39Speaker 06

  "Bang!"

• 44:41Speaker 05

  This is a lot of activity. "I want you to ring my bell. Ring my bell. Bang, bang." I'd be singing that if I were-

• 44:51Pablo Torre?

  Steel roof, rusty.

• 44:53Speaker 05

  That is a... That's his nickname?

• 44:55Speaker 06

  Tin.

• 44:55Pablo Torre?

  A tin?

• 44:56Speaker 06

  "Teeeee roof! Rusty."

• 45:00Speaker 05

  That is great.

• 45:01Pablo Torre?

  That's a really good-

• 45:02Speaker 06

  Thanks. My dad loves the B-52s.

• 45:05Pablo Torre?

  That's a great B-52.

• 45:06Speaker 06

  My dad loves the B-52s.

• 45:08Speaker 05

  Um-

• 45:09Speaker 06

  To the point where they said they were going on their-

• 45:11Speaker 05

  They shared it.

• 45:12Speaker 06

  Their goodbye tour or whatever.

• 45:13Speaker 05

  They did the Cher thing.

• 45:14Speaker 06

  And then they... And then they're back now.

• 45:16Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 45:16Speaker 06

  And you're like, "My dad spent-"

• 45:17Pablo Torre?

  They open for Cher.

• 45:18Speaker 06

  "-all that money to go..."

• 45:20Speaker 05

  Oh no, I was saying Cher does that. Cher like, back in the day would go like, "I'm retiring. Good luck finding me."

• 45:27Speaker 06

  "How dare you. How dare you."

• 45:30Pablo Torre?

  That Cher's tight 30?

• 45:31Speaker 06

  "Isn't it more downhill?"

• 45:32Speaker 05

  "We're used to be." She's like, "I'm back, motherf**ers!" And then it was like, "You said you were gone." She's like, "Hello!" Anyways, shout out Fresno.

• 45:56Speaker 06

  Were we supposed to talk about your hair at some point?

• 45:58Pablo Torre?

  Um.

• 45:59Speaker 05

  Don't cut it. I'm in the don't cut camp.

• 46:02Pablo Torre?

  I do think that if I wore like a, like a Three Ninjas headband, it would look cool.

• 46:08Speaker 05

  Man, Three Ninjas really had us out here thinking we could beat up grown men.

• 46:11Pablo Torre?

  Some tum tum vibes?

• 46:13Speaker 06

  Yeah, tum tum. Wait, I had a crush on one of them. Which ninja did I have a crush on?

• 46:16Speaker 05

  Colt, absolutely Colt. You wouldn't go Rocky, I know you. Rocky was the alpha, Colt was the second best.

• 46:22Speaker 06

  Thank you.

• 46:22Speaker 05

  It's the J C Shosse, uh, thing.

• 46:25Pablo Torre?

  Yeah.

• 46:25Speaker 05

  She, she, yeah, you would have liked Colt.

• 46:29Speaker 05

  And I would say if anybody, I would be Colt.

• 46:31Pablo Torre?

  Right, no, it's, it's the, it's the NSYNC, the Home Improvement, the Three Ninjas. Like, you have a Goldilocks zone of, of, of handsome boys.

• 46:39Speaker 05

  Obviously, everyone wants J T T. Obviously, everyone wants Rock Rocky.

• 46:42Speaker 06

  But I had a, a photo of Apollo Anton Ono hanging up in my bedroom.

• 46:46Speaker 05

  Shout out the soul patch. But Three Ninjas really had a generation of little boys believing with a small amount of mini mall Taekwondo, we could beat up grown men that are criminals.

• 47:03Pablo Torre?

  Yes.

• 47:04Speaker 05

  I hope no one ever tested that.

• 47:06Pablo Torre?

  You could help hardened FBI agents in their investigations.

• 47:09Speaker 05

  Yeah. Their father was an FBI agent.

• 47:11Pablo Torre?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 47:11Speaker 05

  You would think, like, the Bang Bang Bang video we watched, like, a grown man watches a kid go into a karate stance and he goes, "You don't want to do this, kid. I'm a man, you're a little boy." And he's like, "I just watched The Three Ninjas ten times in a row, I got you." And he goes to kick and he grabs it and you go like, uh, like, then it's like being in the water with an alligator.

• 47:29Speaker 06

  They also make you think that you can put, there's like a, an abundance of stuff you can put in someone's drink that'll make them [BLEEP] right away.

• 47:36Speaker 05

  And they go, "Ooh, ooh, ooh."

• 47:38Speaker 06

  Yeah. It's like kids' movies made you think like quicksand, I feel like, and that we're gonna be more prominent.

• 47:43Speaker 05

  They also made you think by taking someone's hand, as a little child, you could flip a grown man.

• 47:48Speaker 06

  Yeah, and you can.

• 47:50Speaker 05

  He'd just go like this.

• 47:52Speaker 06

  It's just like, you gotta get it at the right angle.

• 47:54Speaker 05

  Do it! The little, I say a little kid voice, "You gotta go with it!"

• 47:58Pablo Torre?

  I am one of those kids, incidentally. Like, I took karate classes and Taekwondo classes. Tiger Shulman? Those commercials were very intimidating. I was never at Tiger Shulman Dojo.

• 48:08Speaker 05

  That's great. I never did that. How long did you do karate for? What belt did you get to?

• 48:11Pablo Torre?

  I, I, the most embarrassing thing is that I never even got a blue belt. I was just like a series of like, off-white.

• 48:20Speaker 05

  Just an occasional stripe. You got to yellow though, right?

• 48:23Pablo Torre?

  No, I got a stripe, but it was just like, I was, you know. What's the equivalent of this? It's like being on the, uh, the freshman team.

• 48:30Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 48:31Pablo Torre?

  Not even JV.

• 48:31Speaker 05

  Were you inspired by Three Ninjas?

• 48:33Pablo Torre?

  Yes.

• 48:34Speaker 05

  That was what got you in there?

• 48:35Pablo Torre?

  I mean, that was definitely a radicalizing movie for me.

• 48:38Speaker 05

  Yeah, it got, you were like, Mom, I need to take karate.

• 48:41Pablo Torre?

  Yes, but there's also Surf Ninjas. I mean, there was an era, by the way.

• 48:44Speaker 06

  Yeah, Ninjas were kinda big, yeah.

• 48:46Pablo Torre?

  Teenager Ninja Turtles.

• 48:47Speaker 05

  Eighties and nineties ninja was massive.

• 48:50Speaker 06

  Yeah, it really was.

• 48:51Speaker 05

  You could put ninja on anything. It was like bacon in oh eight. Like you could just like put ninja on anything and everyone's like, I love it. I absolutely love it.

• 48:59Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 48:59Speaker 05

  Yeah, we're an American ninja. We're children ninjas. They just walked into boardrooms and they went, kid ninjas. And they went.

• 49:05Speaker 06

  Oh my God. Oh my God.

• 49:08Speaker 05

  Here's three million dollars.

• 49:09Pablo Torre?

  How many of them are there gonna be?

• 49:10Speaker 05

  Three of them.

• 49:11Speaker 06

  It's perfect.

• 49:12Speaker 05

  Oh my God, I'm [BLEEP] in my pants. And then that's the problem with Hollywood.

• 49:17Speaker 06

  Mike Ryan, Ruiz, Hellman's commercial. I wanna find that so bad.

• 49:21Pablo Torre?

  Mike Ryan was in a Hellman's commercial?

• 49:23Speaker 06

  I don't know. I saw it.

• 49:24Pablo Torre?

  Mike Ryan kind of has the hair that I would ostensibly be trying to grow.

• 49:27Speaker 05

  With the long, he's got good long hair, huh?

• 49:29Pablo Torre?

  He has some good bang.

• 49:31Speaker 05

  The full over?

• 49:32Pablo Torre?

  Some bang, bang, bang.

• 49:33Speaker 05

  For his buck?

• 49:34Speaker 06

  Oh, this is when I was going on Jeopardy because it's all random. Like, who is Spinoza?

• 49:39Speaker 05

  Oh, here comes the tab queen.

• 49:43Speaker 06

  How to learn everything. That's what I Googled. How to learn everything.

• 49:47Pablo Torre?

  Wait, that's a, that's a tab you have?

• 49:49Speaker 06

  Well, yeah, because it's a YouTube video by somebody named CW called, how to study for Jeopardy, win at trivia and appreciate urinal art.

• 49:56Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 49:56Pablo Torre?

  I mean.

• 49:57Speaker 06

  I never watched it, so take that, you know, I didn't win. I, I won twice, but I didn't win one more thing. Oh my God, do I have a great three A C joint separation?

• 50:07Speaker 05

  I know what that's from. I know what that's from.

• 50:10Speaker 06

  I didn't think I still have it.

• 50:12Speaker 05

  I like that you, I like that you still have that.

• 50:14Pablo Torre?

  Did you?

• 50:15Speaker 05

  No, someone else did.

• 50:16Speaker 06

  Somebody else did and they were pretending to not be hurt.

• 50:18Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 50:19Speaker 06

  And I googled, she mentioned what they said that it was, that a hospital told her. And I, and I wrote it down so that I could Google it later, so I wouldn't get caught.

• 50:26Speaker 05

  And you saved it?

• 50:27Speaker 06

  And I'd say, and I saved it.

• 50:28Speaker 05

  I love that. That was when we were up in Colorado.

• 50:30Speaker 06

  It says that it's one of the more painful things you could do to your body.

• 50:33Pablo Torre?

  You just have a picture of a fast food sandwich?

• 50:36Speaker 06

  Sonic cheeseburger. It's not a picture. I was looking up the Sonic menu because I think somebody was going there.

• 50:40Speaker 05

  Yeah, that's when I was doing the Boulder Theater and I went and you had Sonic for the first time.

• 50:43Speaker 06

  That's right.

• 50:43Pablo Torre?

  So you just closed that window?

• 50:44Speaker 06

  Okay, I closed, because I don't need that. You're right.

• 50:46Speaker 05

  And you were disappointed in Sonic?

• 50:48Pablo Torre?

  Remember recondoing your phone right now?

• 50:49Speaker 05

  I remember that.

• 50:50Pablo Torre?

  And it's full of Sonic cheeseburger images.

• 50:52Speaker 06

  Thank you. I have to thank the Sonic cheeseburger.

• 50:53Speaker 05

  Thank you for the menu.

• 50:54Speaker 06

  Uh, Terrell O'Connor. I wanted to know his name.

• 50:56Speaker 05

  Damn, dude, you really keep every tab open.

• 50:58Speaker 06

  Then I have a, uh, the Tom Holland umbrella gif. I always like to have that on hand.

• 51:02Pablo Torre?

  That's a great video.

• 51:03Speaker 06

  Chekhov's gun. I Googled what that was because people were saying it a lot.

• 51:07Pablo Torre?

  Honestly, you, you keeping the tab for Chekhov's gun and only opening it now feels like a violation, or maybe the ultimate fulfillment of the Chekhov's gun.

• 51:15Speaker 05

  That is it.

• 51:16Speaker 06

  And I don't get it, so let me read and then see if I laugh at this.

• 51:19Pablo Torre?

  Chekhov's tab.

• 51:21Speaker 06

  It's a narrative principle emphasizing that every element in a story be necessary.

• 51:24Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 51:25Speaker 06

  While irrelevant elements should be removed, and this is not irrelevant. For example, if a gun features in a story, there must be a reason for it, such as being fired at some later point.

• 51:33Speaker 05

  That's it.

• 51:33Speaker 06

  Principle that all elements must eventually come.

• 51:35Pablo Torre?

  And to create the through line through this whole episode, bang.

• 51:39Speaker 05

  Bang. There it is.

• 51:42Speaker 12

  That's podcasting.

• 51:43Speaker 05

  That's how you do it.

• 51:44Speaker 12

  That's how you podcast.

• 51:47Speaker 05

  Keep them all open. Never, never shut your tabs, Katie.

• 51:50Speaker 06

  Wedding dresses.

• 51:51Speaker 05

  Hey!

• 51:52Speaker 06

  I'll get to it.

• 52:05Pablo Torre?

  Pablo Torre Finds Out is produced by Walter Abaroma, Maxwell Carney, Ryan Cortez, Sam Daywig, Juan Galindo, Patrick Kim, Neely Lohman, Rob McCray, Matt Sullivan, Claire Taylor, and Chris Tumanello. Our studio engineering by RG Systems, sound design by NGW Post, theme song, as always, by John Bravo, and we will talk to you next time.

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