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Lucy Hale joins the podcast to discuss her journey toward self-awareness, sobriety, and personal growth at age 37. The guest and host explore the pressures of early fame during the era of Pretty Little Liars, the dangers of internalizing shame, and why self-forgiveness is a prerequisite for healing. They discuss how numbing behaviors like alcohol use can mask underlying emotional pain, the process of freezing eggs as an act of empowerment, and how moving from a place of control to vulnerability transforms relationships.
The episode opens with host Jay Shetty introducing sponsors and setting the stage for the interview.
Jay welcomes Lucy Hale, recounting their first meeting and the purpose of the conversation.
Lucy discusses how astrology and spirituality guide her decision making and personal growth.
Lucy reflects on turning 37, her late‑bloomer journey, and embracing authenticity over societal timelines.
Lucy talks about the pressures of fame, body image criticism, and her experience with the entertainment industry.
Lucy offers guidance on stopping comparison, confronting inner pain, and embracing self‑compassion for those struggling with addiction.
Lucy shares her history of self‑sabotage, the struggle with alcohol, and the path to self‑forgiveness.
Lucy details her journey to sobriety, the challenges of recovery, and how it has reshaped her life.
Lucy reflects on realizing her addiction, the importance of awareness, and the varied paths to sobriety.
Lucy emphasizes the need for personal accountability and choosing supportive partners for growth.
Lucy discusses how her early relationships mirrored her low self‑worth and how healing shifted her dating patterns.
Lucy shares her experience of egg freezing, the emotional journey, and how it reinforced her autonomy.
Feeling 18 and 85 at Onceinsight
The guest reflects on turning 37 and feeling like her real life is only just beginning despite achieving early professional dreams.
Finding Insight in Childhood Solitudestory
A childhood memory of spending hours alone in a backyard treehouse reveals an introverted nature that still requires heavy doses of solitude.
Four and a Half Years Soberdata
The guest explains how achieving over four years of sobriety was less about the drugs and alcohol and more about stopping avoidance.
Going to Rehab Instead of the Grand Ole Oprystory
At age 23, after waking up from a blackout in a hotel room, the guest cancelled her music tour and chose to enter rehab instead.
Freeing Egg Freezing Experiencestrategy
Doing the egg freezing process entirely alone at age 36 provided an unexpected sense of empowerment and personal autonomy.
A Slow Burn Relationshipinsight
After years of dating unavailable partners, the guest found a healthy partnership based on consistency, groundedness, and slow progression.
“I just turned 37 two days ago, which is just like.”
“I think your gifts, your God given gifts, like that's a part of your mission for being on planet earth, right?”
“I was self-sabotaging in such a big way.”
“I was drinking to the point where I would blackout, you know? If someone's never blacked out before, I witnessed someone blacking out.”
“I would say, good for you for realizing and having that awareness is everything.”
“I relapsed many, many, many, many, many times. So your journey's gonna look different.”
“I think that applies to more than just drugs and alcohol to anything. Like, choose yourself.”
“I would say the best piece of advice is, it's kind of paraphrasing, but the answer is always within you.”
Jay sits down with actress Lucy Hale, who at 37 says she feels more comfortable with herself than ever before. Lucy opens up about letting go of society’s timelines, navigating media scrutiny and body insecurity while growing up in the early days of social media, and her relationship with alcohol and path to sobriety. Lucy also shares her decision to freeze her eggs on her own terms, and how solitude, self-forgiveness, and personal growth have changed the way she approaches love, relationships, and herself. With Love and Gratitude, Jay Shetty Mazda crafts cars for people who do more than simply move. Visit Mazdausa.com to learn more. Consumer reports does not endorse products or services. Your future is waiting, and Walden is here to help you achieve it. https://WaldenU.edu JAY’S DAILY WISDOM DELIVERED STRAIGHT TO YOUR INBOX Join 900,000+ readers discovering how small daily shifts create big life change with my free newsletter. Subscribe here: https://news.jayshetty.me/subscribe Check out our Apple subscription to unlock bonus content of On Purpose! https://lnk.to/JayShettyPodcast What We Discuss: 00:00 Introduction 01:00 Reaching Her Grounded Era at 37 04:00 Releasing Societal Timelines & Comparison 06:40 Letting Go of The Pressure to Be Who Others Expected 13:56 Facing Oneself & Reframing Envy 16:28 The Need for Solitude From a Young Age 17:50 Reconnecting With Feminine Energy 20:40 Early Fame, Media Scrutiny & Perfectionism 24:20 Insecurities On Pretty Little Liars 27:35 Unpacking Past Coping Mechanisms & Learning to Forgive Yourself 32:14 The Ongoing Journey Of Sobriety 35:00 The Moment She Decided to go to Rehab 43:48 Advice For Anyone Seeking Sobriety 45:45 Dating Differently After Doing the Work 53:00 Waymo Cars & Delivery Robots 54:12 Rapid-Fire Game 56:44 Will There be a Pretty Little Liars Reunion? 58:46 Perspectives On Motherhood & Freezing Her Eggs 01:05:40 A Blind Date and The First Healthy Relationship 01:11:32 Looking for Signs in Everyday Life 01:16:58 Lucy On Final Five Episode Resources: Instagram | https://www.instagram.com/lucyhale YouTube | https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTMIfFn9BoAHSCaKkcZm-VA Facebook | https://www.facebook.com/LucyHale X | https://x.com/lucyhale Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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