Second Drink: Prince Family Paper

This week we’re breaking down Prince Family Paper! When David Wallace asks Michael and Dwight to go undercover and scout out a family-owned paper business, Michael’s conscience gets to him. Meanwhile back in the office, everyone debates whether Hillary Swank is hot or not. (The ladies may get on a soapbox or two for this one.) Jenna does a deep dive on Hillary Swank, the ladies delve into all the creative production work that went behind building and shooting the Prince Family Paper company, and Angela shares a funny blooper where a cast member got bits of smoked almonds spit on them. So congratulate yourself for getting up and putting on clothes today, we think that’s hot and totally deserving of this fun episode. Office Ladies Website - Submit a fan question:https://officeladies.com/submitaquestion Follow Us on Instagram:OfficeLadiesPod https://www.instagram.com/officeladiespod/ Follow Us on YouTube https://youtube.com/@officeladiespod?si=D0oKJwFJuK9txzFM Follow Us on TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@officeladiespod?_t=ZT-8y1gqTrJyOs&_r=1

• 0:01Speaker 00

  Hello. Welcome to your second drink of Prince Family Paper. Angela, you started this podcast breakdown, like our original breakdown with a gripe.

• 0:14Speaker 01

  I did?

• 0:15Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 0:15Speaker 01

  What'd I say?

• 0:17Speaker 00

  Okay, it was about a magazine that had put you in a side by side of who wore it best.

• 0:23Speaker 01

  That's so tacky.

• 0:25Speaker 00

  I know. We discussed. Well, in honor of that gripe, I'd like to start this second drink with a similar gripe.

• 0:33Speaker 01

  Were you in a side by side?

• 0:34Speaker 00

  No, I wasn't in a side by side.

• 0:36Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 0:37Speaker 00

  But People Magazine did me dirty, lady. I'm calling them out. They did me dirty.

• 0:43Speaker 01

  What'd they do?

• 0:44Speaker 00

  Okay, I get a text from my brother-in-law. He sends me a photo. He had bought a People Magazine because he was getting on a flight.

• 0:54Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 0:55Speaker 00

  And he was all excited because he was like, Jenna, I'm on a flight and I opened my People Magazine and here you are.

• 1:03Speaker 01

  Oh, that's fun.

• 1:05Speaker 00

  You think it would be fun, but People Magazine did me dirty.

• 1:10Speaker 01

  What the hell did they do?

• 1:11Speaker 00

  Okay. They took a quote that I said back in, I think, like 2018, like a while ago. This is an old quote that they're recycling.

• 1:25Speaker 01

  Okay, slow news day. We're digging back into 2018.

• 1:29Speaker 00

  So it says, "With younger generations binge-watching 2000s hit The Office on Netflix on Netflix, the 52-year-old is thrilled to be reaching new audiences.

• 1:45Speaker 00

  Not so thrilling when she's shopping at Target and is approached by a teen. Quote, "They'll say, 'You know what? Does anyone like tell you that you look like an older version of that girl from The Office?'" When Jenna explains that she actually did play Pam Beasley on the show, quote, "Sometimes they don't even believe me," she told Conan O'Brien.

• 2:07Speaker 01

  Oh, my God, this is some from so long ago.

• 2:10Speaker 00

  I know. This is back when Conan O'Brien had a talk show.

• 2:15Speaker 01

  Good night.

• 2:17Speaker 00

  And then I say, they're like, no, but you do look like her. So I remember telling this funny story. That doesn't do me dirty. That's fine. That's a funny story that I told.

• 2:27Speaker 01

  Sure, People Magazine, you want to recycle a snippet from an interview from 2018? Fine, we'll let you. Fine.

• 2:35Speaker 00

  I let it slide. But here's what they did, lady. They found an unflattering, low angle photo of me.

• 2:45Speaker 01

  Why did they do that? Why?

• 2:46Speaker 00

  And then, and then here's the other thing. I know this photo. This is from before I was wearing glasses. And I was like, wait, that's a kind of older photo at like a very unflattering angle. And I think they put a filter on this photo to make me look worse.

• 3:06Speaker 01

  Come on.

• 3:07Speaker 00

  Lady.

• 3:08Speaker 01

  Do you have the original? Do you have a side by side of your original and then their mockup?

• 3:13Speaker 00

  You know, I do, lady, because you know, I love a side by side and I am a mom detective. And look at the difference.

• 3:23Speaker 00

  This is the original photo. This is the did me dirty. They put a filter on it to create all these shadows and deep lines on my face.

• 3:32Speaker 01

  What's that about?

• 3:33Speaker 00

  I don't know.

• 3:35Speaker 01

  Do you have like an, an ex-boyfriend at People Magazine?

• 3:39Speaker 00

  I don't know. I don't know. But like, I'm sorry. That's messed up.

• 3:47Speaker 01

  Mm hmm. Well, it's always crazy to me too, how they, it seems like they pick the most unflattering picture of you out there. It's like, you know, there's better pictures. Why are you picking that one? Like, what is that snarkiness about? And you know what else?

• 4:03Speaker 00

  What?

• 4:04Speaker 01

  Every single time there's anything about me and Josh, they always print my age.

• 4:12Speaker 01

  I'm like, we get it. I'm six years older than him. We get it.

• 4:17Speaker 00

  Well, here's something that I remember is that when I've had my photo taken by the New York Times, because that's happened a few times, a little bit of a flex. Okay, we did it, Angela. New York Times took our photo twice.

• 4:30Speaker 01

  They do not edit it in any way. That's the journalistic integrity. So that picture of you is exactly as it is the day they took it. There's no filter.

• 4:39Speaker 00

  No filter, no Photoshop. They made that very clear. Lady, I remember when they came to my house to take our picture, and they told us that, and we moved two of my kitchen stools out onto my front lawn in front of my hedge where I have really good light. Because they also don't bring like bounce boards and stuff. They're like, we're taking a photo journalistic photo. We were like, okay, well, can we at least take it in a place with really great light?

• 5:06Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 5:07Speaker 00

  And he said, yes. So anyway, okay. Well, moving on to Prince Family Paper, we have discussed how this is a major cringe episode.

• 5:18Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 5:18Speaker 00

  It's my personal number one skip it episode. I, I just, I can't take the hot or not debate. I can't take the Prince Family demise. We got mail on both sides of this argument on skip it or love it. So first up from Miranda D. in Australia. Miranda says, I gotta say, ladies, this is a skip it for me. I recently listened to your first conversation with Billie Eilish and learned it's a skip it episode for her too. The actors who play the Prince Family paper owners do such an amazing job of portraying genuinely sweet business owners, and I feel so bad every time I watch it. But that's not to say there aren't some great scenes in this episode, such as the cold open, which is one of my favorite gym pranks.

• 6:03Speaker 01

  Well, you know, Miranda, thank you for writing in. I know there's a lot to be discussed here, but I still get excited when you say, Billie Eilish's first conversation, because that meant there was a second.

• 6:16Speaker 01

  Sorry. I know that's not the point of this conversation. Okay, moving on. We also got a letter from Leighton R. in California. Leighton, you've written us many times. Thank you so much. Leighton said, "I ranked this episode high on the list. My favorite scene was when Michael hits his car against the curb and the Prince family comes outside and helps him. And here's what really stands out. It's how nice their family tends to be despite Michael and Dwight's surveillance and attempts to shut them down. I appreciated the scene because it shows how Michael feels guilty. And then he realizes how he might feel. He is hurting those genuinely great people and this family that really works to keep their business open and it just makes their situation more serious.

• 7:01Speaker 01

  So I guess Leighton really liked all the complexity there."

• 7:04Speaker 00

  It is a complex episode. This is true. And it doesn't end how you think it will, which is, I mean, every time this episode comes up, I'm like, "I can't believe we shut down the little family-run paper place."

• 7:19Speaker 01

  I know. Oh, it's really difficult. It's really difficult.

• 7:23Speaker 00

  Well, finally, we got this letter from Miranda J. in Wake Forest, North Carolina, who said, "I love how strongly Michael and Dwight each feel about Denny's versus IHOP. I must know the opinions of the office ladies. Which side are y'all on? Personally, I agree with Dwight. Denny's is the OG. Literally beat IHOP by five years." Well, lady, before we say if we're Denny's or IHOP, let's listen to this argument. Michael and Dwight are in the car and it starts with them going over their plans for their alter egos.

• 7:59Speaker 02

  Okay, so let's go over the plan again.

• 8:00Speaker 03

  All right. I am a local business owner. I need to buy paper. I find out everything about their prices and policies.

• 8:05Speaker 02

  Your fictitious name?

• 8:07Speaker 03

  Michael Skarn.

• 8:07Speaker 02

  Good. I am a paper salesman looking for a new job. I find out everything about their expenses and salaries.

• 8:13Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 8:13Speaker 02

  Then we meet at the Denny's and we compare notes.

• 8:15Speaker 03

  No, I never said Denny's. IHOP.

• 8:17Speaker 02

  No.

• 8:17Speaker 03

  IHOP.

• 8:18Speaker 02

  I said Denny's.

• 8:18Speaker 03

  You know how I feel about IHOP.

• 8:20Speaker 02

  Don't start...

• 8:21Speaker 03

  You're a socialist. I don't want to get into this debate again.

• 8:24Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 8:24Speaker 03

  I enjoy IHOP.

• 8:25Speaker 02

  I'll have a cup of coffee.

• 8:26Speaker 03

  You will have pancakes and you'll like it.

• 8:34Speaker 00

  So lady, do you have strong feelings between Denny's and IHOP?

• 8:38Speaker 01

  I do not. I love a nice big ol', like, kinda diner breakfast. Jenna, one of my favorite things is when you and I take a trip to New York, we go to a diner and we have a big ol' breakfast together. And I just love it. My dad loved, like, a big breakfast, and I think it just makes me think of him. So, I'm sorry to be a lame-o, but I, I, I don't care one or the other. They seem interchangeable to me. Is that, is that bad?

• 9:03Speaker 00

  Oh, well, this is Michael's point. Like, we can go to either one of these, but we're going where I want, and you're gonna like it.

• 9:10Speaker 01

  So what is yours?

• 9:12Speaker 00

  You know, if you forced me to pick one, if you were like, you can only go to one of these two places for the rest of your life, I think I would have to pick Denny's.

• 9:23Speaker 01

  Really?

• 9:24Speaker 00

  Well, we have a Denny's near our house. We don't have an IHOP near our house, and we go to Denny's. So, for a very long time, the Denny's by our house, kids eat free on Tuesdays. And they have a claw machine. And it was like, it was a great place to go, like, go out to dinner with little kids, especially, you know?

• 9:45Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 9:46Speaker 00

  And you could have breakfast for dinner at Denny's, like the kids could. They've got a chicken and waffles. But they've also got a really nice, they've added, like, a nice, like, rice and protein bowl. Can you tell? I eat at Denny's quite a bit.

• 10:02Speaker 01

  I was gonna say, you are pretty versed in this menu. Yeah, I mean, I lived near an IHOP when I first moved to LA, and I could walk to it. And that's back when my car used to break down all the time. Remember my car that broke down during booze cruise?

• 10:17Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 10:18Speaker 01

  And I finally got a new car. So, there were many times where I was just like, oh, my car's not running. And I would walk to IHOP. And I was very thankful for it.

• 10:27Speaker 00

  Lady, you know, we lived in the same area at first. I lived by an IHOP as well.

• 10:32Speaker 01

  I thi- it's the same IHOP.

• 10:33Speaker 00

  We prob- we might have been there at the same time. We didn't even know it. So, yeah, when I first moved to LA, I went to IHOP all the time. And now I've moved kind of further away, and now I'm at, at a Denny's.

• 10:44Speaker 01

  Well, you guys let us know, are you Denny's or IHOP? I'm very curious. And you guys, we know some of you might skip this episode when you re-watch, but we hope you won't skip our breakdown because it's really fun. We have some great shares about the episode and then Sam and I tried to explain Lord of the Rings to Jenna. We don't do that great of a job, but we tried.

• 11:05Speaker 00

  Well, it was very funny for me to re-listen to that now that I've seen the movie and now I know what you're talking about and you, you don't do such a bad job.

• 11:13Speaker 01

  Aw, except I say, I say Sauron, wrong.

• 11:19Speaker 00

  All right, everyone. Here's your second drink of Prince Family Paper.

• 11:27Speaker 00

  I'm Jenna Fisher.

• 11:28Speaker 01

  And I'm Angela Kinsey.

• 11:29Speaker 00

  We were on The Office together.

• 11:31Speaker 01

  And we're best friends.

• 11:32Speaker 00

  And now we're doing the ultimate Office re-watch podcast just for you.

• 11:36Speaker 01

  Each week, we will break down an episode of The Office and give exclusive behind the scenes stories that only two people who were there can tell you.

• 11:43Speaker 00

  We're the Office ladies.

• 11:46Speaker 00

  Hi, Angela.

• 11:47Speaker 01

  Hey Jenna, how's it going?

• 11:49Speaker 00

  It's going good. Are you ready to destroy a small family business today?

• 11:52Speaker 01

  Oh, Prince Family Paper.

• 11:55Speaker 00

  The Prince family.

• 11:56Speaker 01

  They're the sweetest family.

• 11:58Speaker 00

  Well, we're gonna take them down.

• 12:00Speaker 01

  Guess we are.

• 12:01Speaker 00

  So awful and cringey.

• 12:02Speaker 01

  Oh, there's a lot of cringe in this one.

• 12:05Speaker 00

  There sure is. Guys, it's season five, episode 13, Prince Family Paper, written by BJ Novak and directed by Assad Khadada. Here's your summary.

• 12:17Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 12:17Speaker 00

  David Wallace calls Michael Scott on the phone.

• 12:20Speaker 01

  It's so funny to me. I'm so sorry to interrupt your summary that I acted surprised.

• 12:24Speaker 00

  That I was gonna read a summary?

• 12:25Speaker 01

  Yeah, you're like, here's a summary. I went, oh, oh, well, look who sassy pants has a summary. She has one every weekend. Just, just expect it. Okay, go.

• 12:36Speaker 00

  David Wallace calls Michael Scott on the phone. He wants to get his help gathering intel on a rival paper company called Prince Family Paper. Michael takes Dwight along as his backup and meanwhile, the gang debate whether or not Hillary Swank qualifies as hot.

• 12:56Speaker 01

  Yep, yep. All right. I have to say one thing. I just gotta get this out.

• 13:01Speaker 00

  Get it out.

• 13:02Speaker 01

  There used to be a magazine, I don't know which one, you know who you are, they would do this thing, who wore it best?

• 13:09Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah.

• 13:09Speaker 01

  And they would put two people side by side in like the same dress or skirt or pants.

• 13:15Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 13:15Speaker 01

  And there was always one person that wore it best.

• 13:18Speaker 00

  Right.

• 13:18Speaker 01

  You know?

• 13:19Speaker 00

  Um, and they would have a percentage, like people voted?

• 13:22Speaker 01

  People voted. And you might have worn it best because you were tall and not 5'1".

• 13:28Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 13:29Speaker 01

  Okay. And maybe you knew to wear the right kind of heels and someone else wore flip flops with it. I don't know.

• 13:35Speaker 00

  Right.

• 13:36Speaker 01

  I'm just saying, to that magazine and people that like to compare who wore it best, or who's hotter, who's not, I say suck it.

• 13:50Speaker 00

  Thank you, Angela.

• 13:51Speaker 01

  That's all I'm gonna say.

• 13:52Speaker 00

  Well, that was clearly a general comment.

• 13:55Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 13:55Speaker 00

  Nothing based on personal experience, I can tell. I'll have you know, I've also been the subject of a who wore it best.

• 14:03Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 14:04Speaker 00

  So I feel that.

• 14:05Speaker 01

  Yeah. You know what? You all wear it best.

• 14:08Speaker 00

  We all wear it how we wear it.

• 14:11Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 14:11Speaker 00

  Okay? That's how I wore it, period.

• 14:13Speaker 01

  That's my body. That's how my body wears stuff.

• 14:16Speaker 00

  How about who wore it? Me. I wore it.

• 14:19Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 14:20Speaker 00

  100% to me for wearing it.

• 14:23Speaker 01

  And you know what?

• 14:23Speaker 00

  I got dressed this morning. You're welcome. As you can tell, this episode might have triggered something for us.

• 14:29Speaker 01

  As you can tell, two gals are sitting here not super appreciating debates on who's hotter, who's not.

• 14:35Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 14:36Speaker 01

  Kevin has a lot of thoughts about it. This might be the most Kevin ever spoke in a whole episode.

• 14:41Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 14:41Speaker 01

  I think, is this his most line count ever?

• 14:44Speaker 00

  Possibly.

• 14:45Speaker 01

  Well, I think we should get to some fast facts.

• 14:47Speaker 00

  I agree. Here we go. Fast fact number one, new director alert.

• 14:52Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 14:53Speaker 00

  Assad Khadid.

• 14:54Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 14:55Speaker 00

  So our line producer, Randy Cordray, had worked with Assad before, and he told us that Assad was actually originally supposed to direct an episode in season four. But that season got cut because of the Writer's strike.

• 15:08Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 15:09Speaker 00

  And so they slotted him for season five instead. So we could have almost gotten to work with this man earlier. And I tell you what, he is a delight.

• 15:17Speaker 01

  You guys, he's like television legend. He's directed everything.

• 15:21Speaker 00

  Yes, he has directed 77 episodes of The Facts of Life and 117 episodes of Who's the Boss.

• 15:30Speaker 01

  I know Who's the Boss. If your name is Angela, you know Who's the Boss.

• 15:35Speaker 00

  What?

• 15:36Speaker 01

  So the female lead's character is named Angela. You guys, this show was out in the 90s. I was in college in the 90s. I cannot even tell you how many people left this on my answering machine. Angela. I had that on my voicemail, I would say on a monthly basis.

• 15:55Speaker 00

  That's crazy. Let me finish telling you a little bit about Assad. We loved working with him. I found an interview he did where he said this, which I thought was so great. He said that the most essential thing for making a successful comedy is casting. He said that is because, quote, "You cannot make the actor be funny. Comedy is all about rhythm, timing, pace, and energy."

• 16:22Speaker 01

  I agree.

• 16:23Speaker 00

  I thought that was so well said.

• 16:24Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 16:25Speaker 00

  All right, fast fact number two. We got a lot of fan questions about the hot or not storyline. This one comes from Joe S., who asked, "What inspired the subplot of the debate about whether or not Hilary Swank was hot or not?"

• 16:41Speaker 01

  Was it a magazine that said who wore it best?

• 16:43Speaker 00

  It wasn't. It wasn't. BJ Novak did an interview with Indie Week, and he said that he was on a flight, and two of the in-flight movies were P.S. I Love You and The Great Debaters. They were both Hilary Swank movies. He was tasked with coming up with a B-plot for an episode, and he thought, quote, "Why not debate about Hilary Swank?" And then he decided that the characters could debate whether or not she is attractive. We got more questions from Amy J. and Rohit R. "How does Hilary Swank feel about this episode?"

• 17:19Speaker 01

  Oh, wow.

• 17:20Speaker 00

  Good question.

• 17:21Speaker 01

  Very good question.

• 17:23Speaker 00

  Well, she did an interview with Time Magazine shortly after this episode came out. She was asked if she had seen the episode, and she said this. I'm not a big television watcher, but definitely everyone made me aware of it.

• 17:36Speaker 01

  Oh geez.

• 17:37Speaker 00

  I think it's flattering anytime someone mentions you, but I don't think of myself in terms of that. Meaning like she doesn't lead with if she's hot or not.

• 17:47Speaker 01

  Right.

• 17:48Speaker 00

  Later on in the interview, she was asked about women in Hollywood in general, and she replied, "There is so much put on the way we look," which is interesting, going back to your office question, "Are you hot or are you not?" It really does a disservice because there's so much more to life than looking a certain way.

• 18:08Speaker 01

  We love you Hillary. Hillary, well said. Well said.

• 18:15Speaker 00

  Fast fact number three, Hillary Swank is a badass. Would you like to hear a little about her?

• 18:20Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 18:21Speaker 00

  All right. She was born in Lincoln, Nebraska. She competed in the Junior Olympics and the Washington State Championships in swimming, and she ranked fifth in state in all-around gymnastics.

• 18:36Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 18:37Speaker 00

  All-around gymnastics, that's the one where you have to do all the things.

• 18:40Speaker 01

  You do all the things.

• 18:41Speaker 00

  She ranked fifth in the state. Okay. Her parents separated when she was a teenager, and she really wanted to be an actress, so her mom moved with her to Los Angeles when she was 16 years old. And she's spoken a lot about this, they did not have a lot of money for a while, and they lived out of their car. They did eventually find a place to live, she enrolled in school, and then, when she was 20, so four years after she moved to LA, she landed the starring role in the next Karate Kid.

• 19:09Speaker 01

  Julie Pierce.

• 19:10Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 19:11Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 19:12Speaker 00

  You know all about this, Ange.

• 19:13Speaker 01

  I do, because you guys, I got really into Cobra Kai this past year. Are you guys watching Cobra Kai? It's so good.

• 19:22Speaker 00

  I'm not watching it. Should I be watching it?

• 19:24Speaker 01

  I am loving it. It's also just major like 80s nostalgia. It's so good.

• 19:29Speaker 00

  Is this something I can watch with my kids? Or is it more adulty? I've heard it's a little bit skews older.

• 19:34Speaker 01

  It skews older.

• 19:35Speaker 00

  Than my kids?

• 19:36Speaker 01

  Yes. I'm not watching it with my kids.

• 19:38Speaker 00

  Oh, this is your time?

• 19:40Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 19:40Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 19:41Speaker 01

  Josh and I watch it together. I'm sure there's, you know, teenagers that watch it, but Josh and I watch it together. So basically it's sort of picking up where they are now, right?

• 19:50Speaker 00

  Mm hmm.

• 19:51Speaker 01

  With the two lead guys. And John Hurwitz, who's the co-creator, they reached out to me to play one of the kids' mom.

• 19:58Speaker 00

  What?

• 19:58Speaker 01

  Yes, and I wanted to do it, but it was filming in Atlanta. And you basically have to go to Atlanta for a while and I couldn't do that. I couldn't be away from my kids for that long.

• 20:07Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 20:08Speaker 01

  You know, it wasn't like an in and out. But listen, John Hurwitz, if you ever move to Los Angeles, if you ever decide to film here, I am there. People have been speculating, will Julie come back? Because they're bringing all the characters back. And this is what John Hurwitz said in an interview. They discussed the possibility of bringing Julie Pearce on the show. He said, "In our writer's room, we speak about literally every character that has appeared in the Miyagi verse." They call it the Miyagi verse. So it's obvious we've spoken about Julie Pearce. As to whether or not she'll return to the series, that's something you'll just have to wait to find out.

• 20:45Speaker 00

  Ooh.

• 20:46Speaker 01

  I'm here for it, John. Bring her back. Also, a little bit of Office crossover. Jen Salata has directed several episodes of Cobra Kai.

• 20:55Speaker 00

  Wow.

• 20:56Speaker 01

  Yeah. I would love it if Hillary Swank, Hillary, go back. Go do a guest star on Cobra Kai. It'd be so good.

• 21:04Speaker 00

  And then maybe there's like some little bit you could do in her episode.

• 21:08Speaker 01

  Yes, Hillary, maybe I could be your best friend.

• 21:11Speaker 00

  This is it.

• 21:12Speaker 01

  And then I could go just for a week, John, just like four days.

• 21:15Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 21:16Speaker 01

  Okay. There, we worked it out, Jen Salata.

• 21:19Speaker 00

  Jen Salata directs it.

• 21:20Speaker 01

  Make it happen.

• 21:21Speaker 00

  Well, Hillary Swank was 20 years old when she was a next Karate Kid. When she was 25 years old, she did the lead role in Boys Don't Cry.

• 21:30Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 21:30Speaker 00

  And she won an Oscar. She is one of the youngest women to ever win an Oscar. She also won an Oscar for her lead role in Million Dollar Baby.

• 21:40Speaker 01

  That movie destroyed me.

• 21:42Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 21:42Speaker 01

  I mean, both of those movies, I mean, they're, ugh.

• 21:45Speaker 00

  There are only 12 other actresses who have won two or more lead actress Oscars. Those are both lead actress Oscars.

• 21:53Speaker 01

  So she's in a very impressive club there.

• 21:56Speaker 00

  She sure is. So that's Hillary Swank, y'all.

• 21:59Speaker 01

  Well, Hillary, we are here for you. We should take a break. And we come back. There is a classic Jim prank.

• 22:15Speaker 00

  This episode opens with everyone just working at their desks. We're just working.

• 22:20Speaker 01

  Just a normal day.

• 22:21Speaker 00

  No biggie. But then Dwight discovers a red wire that's plugged into his computer. No other computers have red wires. What is it?

• 22:29Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's a new wire. It's never been there before.

• 22:31Speaker 00

  Yeah. Well, he starts tearing at this wire.

• 22:34Speaker 01

  Yeah, he wants to know where it's coming from.

• 22:36Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 22:37Speaker 01

  In the script, it says Dwight pulls the wire off the floor and follows it to the wall. It goes over a door frame under Phyllis's desk and Dwight crawls under Phyllis's desk.

• 22:47Speaker 00

  Oh, we did it a little differently.

• 22:49Speaker 01

  We did it a little differently. First of all, you can't crawl through Phyllis's desk because there was like a backstop, right? Yeah. So it doesn't go all the way through to Stanley's desk. And in the script, Phyllis says Dwight, get out of there. And that's pretty much in the episode. And then Dwight would have said, shush, shush, shush. But I think Rain improvised, shut up, Phyllis.

• 23:11Speaker 01

  So Dwight's gonna follow this wire into the hall.

• 23:14Speaker 00

  Yeah, all the way outside and up a telephone pole, which we can see over Jim's shoulder in Jim's Talking Head.

• 23:24Speaker 01

  Right. And it is a real telephone pole.

• 23:26Speaker 00

  It's a real telephone pole. Jim says he got 500 feet of red wire at a flea market for 20 bucks. How long did this take him?

• 23:35Speaker 01

  Jim has a lot of extra time.

• 23:36Speaker 00

  He gets to work so early.

• 23:39Speaker 01

  Pam is like, you know what? I know we were gonna carpool, but you've got that Dwight prank. And you've got to go at 3:00 in the morning and I'm gonna sleep in.

• 23:47Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 23:48Speaker 01

  Like, what's the real life side of that?

• 23:52Speaker 00

  I reached out to Randy to find out how we did this stunt of Rain up on this telephone pole.

• 23:58Speaker 01

  Right. He can't climb a real telephone pole. That's not safe.

• 24:01Speaker 00

  No, because what he told me was that the pole over Jim's shoulder really is an actual working utility pole that's embedded in our sidewalk, you know, right out there.

• 24:12Speaker 01

  Folks, don't go climb it for a photo.

• 24:14Speaker 00

  Don't climb it.

• 24:15Speaker 01

  You can get electrocuted.

• 24:16Speaker 00

  Yeah, it carried high voltage electricity. They couldn't even have a stunt person dressed as Dwight climb that pole.

• 24:22Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 24:23Speaker 00

  So our production designer, Michael Gallenberg, and his construction team rented a matching utility pole. You can do that, I guess.

• 24:32Speaker 01

  No.

• 24:33Speaker 00

  Where is that?

• 24:34Speaker 01

  I mean, seriously, how do they know these things? This is the crazy part of Hollywood magic. Oh, you know what I'm gonna do today? I'm gonna rent a fakey telephone pole.

• 24:44Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 24:45Speaker 01

  That's huge.

• 24:46Speaker 00

  Huge. Well, they put it up in our parking lot between the two sound stages and they put like a green padded platform around it.

• 24:55Speaker 01

  In case you fell?

• 24:56Speaker 00

  Yep. And they put up a big green screen behind the whole thing. And then they brought Rain out along with like a stunt coordinator and a safety officer. And they had Rain climb up. It was only a few feet that he had to climb. And then in post-production, they had their visual effects team digitally add Rain to the real pole over Jim's shoulder.

• 25:19Speaker 01

  They superimposed like one pole onto the other?

• 25:22Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 25:22Speaker 01

  Got it.

• 25:23Speaker 00

  Even though Rain was really only a little bit off the ground, they could like hike it up so it looked like he was like halfway up the pole.

• 25:31Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 25:32Speaker 00

  That's movie magic, folks.

• 25:33Speaker 01

  That is some good movie magic.

• 25:34Speaker 00

  But here's the thing that gets me about that. That's like real special effects, kinda like stunt-y stuff for our little TV show about a paper company. Like, I never really thought hard about how much work it took to do that gag until we went to break it down.

• 25:54Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 25:54Speaker 00

  Right? Like, it's such a quick little blip and you're like, that was like two weeks of figuring that out.

• 26:00Speaker 01

  Of prep.

• 26:00Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 26:01Speaker 01

  I feel like every week we are learning how much Michael Gallenberg, Kyle Alexander, Phil Shea, our wardrobe department, set designers, how they all made these little moments happen and made it seamless.

• 26:13Speaker 00

  Yeah. I know, so much work goes into these little things.

• 26:17Speaker 01

  It's amazing.

• 26:17Speaker 00

  The fruit fly wrangler.

• 26:19Speaker 01

  We had to know their like mating cycle.

• 26:22Speaker 00

  Craziness.

• 26:22Speaker 01

  It's crazy.

• 26:23Speaker 00

  Well, that was the cold open. Now, we start this episode. Michael's in his office. He's on the phone with David Wallace.

• 26:30Speaker 01

  I feel like David's really playing Michael here because he dangles out that regional supervisor job. He's like, you know, I still haven't filled that slot yet. And Michael's like, oh. And then he asks Michael to go do this thing.

• 26:42Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 26:42Speaker 01

  To go spy on this tiny little paper company.

• 26:46Speaker 00

  I know. To do some field work.

• 26:48Speaker 01

  Michael's so excited.

• 26:50Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah. During this scene, I was really struck by the toys on Michael's desk because they would rotate them.

• 26:58Speaker 01

  They would, you guys. Every once in a while, there'd be some new toys.

• 27:00Speaker 00

  Here's what was on his desk. A Rubik's Cube, not finished.

• 27:05Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 27:05Speaker 00

  A tiny pool table.

• 27:07Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 27:08Speaker 00

  A colorful, plastic, expanding ball thingy. You know that thingy?

• 27:13Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah. That's a staple.

• 27:14Speaker 00

  Yes, and also the wind-up teeth. Those are always there. But the pool table had moved, so he's clearly played it recently, and it's on top of all the stuff in his inbox. He can't get to anything in his inbox.

• 27:26Speaker 01

  It's not important.

• 27:27Speaker 00

  The pool table is number one of things to do.

• 27:30Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 27:31Speaker 00

  It made me laugh.

• 27:34Speaker 01

  A miniature pool table in his inbox says, "Everything you need to know about Michael Scott's work ethic."

• 27:39Speaker 00

  That's right.

• 27:40Speaker 01

  Stanley and Phyllis are going to start having this conversation about whether or not they think Hillary Swank is hot. And the rest of the gang gets involved. I feel like these kind of moments happen in small offices. You sort of start to debate things, like you pick a soccer team during the playoffs, and people debate about the players, and it can become a whole thing, and it's just a way to fill the boredom.

• 28:01Speaker 00

  Oh, for sure.

• 28:02Speaker 01

  I have a bone to pick with Jim.

• 28:04Speaker 00

  Why is that?

• 28:05Speaker 01

  At 3 minutes 18 seconds, I titled this moment, "What the hell, Jim?"

• 28:09Speaker 00

  What is the moment?

• 28:10Speaker 01

  Jim suggests they put it to a vote in the bullpen. Angela says she isn't voting, and Jim says, "Nobody cares."

• 28:18Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 28:19Speaker 01

  What the hell, Jim?

• 28:20Speaker 00

  That's some Jim sass.

• 28:21Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm. Jim sass.

• 28:23Speaker 00

  Did you notice what Pam said?

• 28:25Speaker 01

  What did Pam say?

• 28:26Speaker 00

  Pam says, "Did you see her with her bangs?"

• 28:29Speaker 01

  Oh!

• 28:31Speaker 00

  And lady, this made me laugh out loud because I have just recently gotten bangs.

• 28:37Speaker 01

  And people have a lot of opinions about it.

• 28:39Speaker 00

  They do have opinions about my bangs. But what made me laugh was that before I got my bangs, I, of course, Googled images of people with bangs. You have to do research. You don't just... You gotta look at all the pictures.

• 28:52Speaker 01

  You Googled people with bangs. You texted me, "I think I'm gonna get bangs."

• 28:56Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 28:57Speaker 01

  To which I replied, "Oh, no."

• 28:59Speaker 00

  I said, I think I'm gonna get bangs right now because like I was getting a haircut in the moment. By the time you replied, it was done.

• 29:07Speaker 01

  I know. I was like, oh, I was busy with the kids. I decided we were gonna paint. I bought the canvas and all the paint stuff. We're outside. We'd made this huge mess. I'd set my phone aside so I didn't get paint on it. And then I just thought I'd check in, see what's happening. And I see this text from you that's half an hour old. That says, I think I'm gonna get bangs now. And I was like, oh no, I didn't get to weigh in. But lady, I think they're adorable. I think they're super cute because they're curly.

• 29:32Speaker 00

  I'm loving it. I bring it up because one of the people I saw in my research was Hilary Swank with bangs. So when Pam said this in the scene, it made me laugh. But I really based my bangs on some like Mia Farrow from Hannah and her sisters.

• 29:47Speaker 01

  You look very 70s, kind of like beachy wave with bangs.

• 29:52Speaker 00

  A little bit of Terry Gar. Terry Gar wore some bangs like no one's business.

• 29:57Speaker 01

  That's right.

• 29:57Speaker 00

  But my main inspiration was probably Stevie Nicks. And I will admit that after getting my bangs, I did style my hair in a full Stevie Nicks. And then I took pictures and I put them side by side. I was too shy to post, but.

• 30:12Speaker 01

  I want to see the side by side.

• 30:14Speaker 00

  You want to see my Stevie Nicks picture?

• 30:15Speaker 01

  Do you have it on your phone?

• 30:16Speaker 00

  Yeah, I mean, I really did this.

• 30:18Speaker 01

  Oh, my God, Jo, this is amazing. Oh, you kind of did the same mouth.

• 30:24Speaker 00

  I tried it. I put on the same necklace. I did like a whole thing.

• 30:27Speaker 01

  Oh, you did. We gotta put that in Office Ladies Pod Stories, please.

• 30:31Speaker 00

  It's okay. I mean, I'm doing a whole pouty mouth, so I got a little bit like shy.

• 30:36Speaker 01

  You even did the dark eyeliner.

• 30:37Speaker 00

  I did. I'm telling you, she was my inspo.

• 30:40Speaker 01

  This was a whole afternoon. I thought I knew your life. This was a whole day. I didn't know what was happening.

• 30:46Speaker 00

  I mean, I had to take off my glasses for the picture.

• 30:48Speaker 01

  I know.

• 30:49Speaker 00

  Which actually made it a little hard to take the picture because I couldn't see very well.

• 30:53Speaker 01

  Tell me about it. I can't tell you how many photos I've taken of Josh and the kids because you know, when you're like a family, one parent has to take the picture.

• 31:00Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 31:00Speaker 01

  And half the time I don't have my glasses because I'm not good about wearing them. And Josh will be like, babe, these are out of focus. I'm like, I can't tell. I just click.

• 31:09Speaker 00

  I love how we literally could not be more off topic.

• 31:12Speaker 01

  We are so off topic. Okay.

• 31:13Speaker 00

  All right, we'll get back to it.

• 31:15Speaker 01

  Let's get back on topic. All right, all right, all right. So we are now, oh, God, you guys, we're about to talk about a scene I absolutely loved. It's a driving scene between Dwight and Michael. They're headed to Prince Family Paper. Did you notice how much they bicker in this scene? They're like an old married couple.

• 31:31Speaker 00

  I loved it.

• 31:32Speaker 01

  They bicker about who would seduce the fictional daughter. They don't even know if this person exists.

• 31:37Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 31:38Speaker 01

  And they bicker about Denny's and IHOP. They bicker about the clouds. Dwight says, get your clouds right. Michael tells him to shut up. But I have a background catch.

• 31:49Speaker 00

  What is it?

• 31:49Speaker 01

  Oh, it sent me down a Google path, Jenna. All right. So whenever we have driving scenes, we always look for palm trees, right?

• 31:57Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 31:58Speaker 01

  Spot the palm tree. In this one, I recognize the street they were on. It's Chandler Boulevard. It's a residential street. And guess what else I recognized?

• 32:06Speaker 00

  What?

• 32:07Speaker 01

  It was trash day. And there were blue recycle bins in every driveway. I took a few photos.

• 32:13Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 32:14Speaker 01

  I'll put those in pod. So then I thought, is that what the recycle trash bins look like in Scranton? So that took me to the recycling laws for Lackawanna County.

• 32:25Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 32:25Speaker 01

  Hang with me because there's a woman named Barbara who I am now fascinated by. First of all, that is not what recycle bins look like in Lackawanna County. So theirs are like these blue round tubs.

• 32:37Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 32:37Speaker 01

  Unless they've changed, you guys can correct me. Ours are these like skinny rectangles with lids.

• 32:42Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 32:43Speaker 01

  So here's an article I read from April of 2019. Barbara Giovinoli is the recycling coordinator for Lackawanna County. Barbara shared that the recycling center in Lackawanna County accepts plastics and glass bottles and jars, aluminum steel cans, as well as newspaper. It is a dual-streamed system. They have containers, bottles, jars, and cans in one, and paper fibers separately. They do not accept plastic bags, takeout containers, or pizza boxes. And apparently, lady, the recycle centers get all kinds of wacky things. People put all kinds of crazy things in the recycle bins. Barbara has a tip for you. She wants you to know. She says there's an easy way to remind yourself what can and

• 33:25Speaker 01

  cannot be recycled at the Lackawanna County Recycling Center. Quote, "Ask yourself, is it a bottle? Is it a jar? If the answer is no, that means it has to be thrown away."

• 33:39Speaker 00

  I want to meet Barbara.

• 33:40Speaker 01

  I want to meet Barbara. I want to meet Barbara. It's real simple. Ask yourself, is this a jar? Is this a bottle? No, trash.

• 33:51Speaker 00

  Wow.

• 33:52Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 33:52Speaker 00

  We have to meet her.

• 33:53Speaker 01

  We have to meet her. Anyway, this was a random thing I noticed in the background. No palm tree siding, several recycle bins. Also in the scene, for those of you guys keeping track of how many times Michael Scarn is mentioned in the series, this is one of them because it's going to be Michael's alias, and then they get into a real heated argument, I mean, that has history about Denny's and IHOP.

• 34:16Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 34:16Speaker 01

  They're going to rendezvous after they get the info. Michael says at IHOP, and Dwight's like, I did not agree to IHOP.

• 34:24Speaker 00

  Socialist, he says.

• 34:25Speaker 01

  Yeah, he's like, you socialist, I'm going to Denny's. And Michael's like, you are going to IHOP and you will have pancakes and you will like it.

• 34:32Speaker 00

  What do you like? Do you have strong feelings about IHOP or Denny's?

• 34:35Speaker 01

  I really don't, but I would say I've had IHOP more because there was one right on campus when I went to college, basically like across the street. And we would walk over there. And there's also one by my kid's pediatrician office. So

• 34:48Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 34:48Speaker 01

  I've just been to IHOP more.

• 34:50Speaker 00

  I would say that if I'm looking for a pancake, IHOP is going to come to mind.

• 34:55Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 34:55Speaker 00

  But I want to say these words to you.

• 34:57Speaker 01

  Oh, what?

• 34:58Speaker 00

  Moons over my hammy.

• 34:59Speaker 01

  Oh, is that?

• 35:00Speaker 00

  That's a Denny's special.

• 35:01Speaker 01

  Special.

• 35:02Speaker 00

  And it's real good.

• 35:04Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 35:04Speaker 00

  So if I'm wanting more of an egg sandwich, I'm going to have to head to Denny's.

• 35:09Speaker 01

  Now I'm just craving breakfast.

• 35:11Speaker 00

  I know, me too, kinda. Well, these guys do eventually get to their destination of Prince Family Paper. It's in like a little strip mall.

• 35:22Speaker 01

  Right.

• 35:23Speaker 00

  And I got a location alert.

• 35:25Speaker 01

  Let's do it.

• 35:26Speaker 00

  We rented an empty mini mall near the corner of Laurel Canyon and Victory Boulevard in North Hollywood, California.

• 35:33Speaker 01

  We rented a whole mini mall?

• 35:35Speaker 00

  I guess we did because Randy said our location manager, Kyle Alexander, had to find a location where we could have some sort of office front that had all windows because we assumed- That if they were going undercover, they couldn't bring a documentary crew with them.

• 35:53Speaker 01

  Oh, that's so smart. I didn't even think about that. When I watched, every single shot is through the glass.

• 35:57Speaker 00

  Yes. And so they had to be able to have a total glass front on this office. But then we also needed this giant parking lot. So he was able to find all of that in this little empty mini mall.

• 36:13Speaker 01

  I want Kyle to come on the show.

• 36:15Speaker 00

  Me too.

• 36:16Speaker 01

  He's like the master of every amazing location.

• 36:19Speaker 00

  So good. Get this, we had to bring all those cars. And did you notice the fakey snow residue? We put fakey snow residue on all the cars.

• 36:28Speaker 01

  They're still dirty from last week.

• 36:30Speaker 00

  I know. And then our production designer, Michael Gallenberg, had to create the entire Prince family paper offices from scratch.

• 36:37Speaker 01

  Michael, we want you on too. Michael and Kyle, we want you on.

• 36:41Speaker 00

  We're coming for you. So they're in the car and Dwight's got a little pair of binoculars and they're coming up with their plan.

• 36:48Speaker 01

  Dwight's binoculars are like industrial looking. They look like they have night vision.

• 36:52Speaker 00

  Yeah. And then here is my question. Through this whole scene, they are eating. What are they eating? Is it a giant can of nuts? I tried to zoom in. What is it? Did you see it?

• 37:07Speaker 01

  I did. I did take a picture. I actually loved the blooper for this scene so much that I filmed the blooper and I sent it to Rain and texted him and I was like, what are you guys eating? And he was cracking up. He said, Ange, I am pretty sure those were smoked almonds.

• 37:24Speaker 00

  Yeah, they looked like almonds, but they had like stuff on them.

• 37:29Speaker 01

  Yeah. He said he was pretty sure they were smoked almonds. And while they're eating these almonds, they decide on a signal that they need to give each other if there's danger. They need to get out of there. And Dwight says, you gotta lick your lips. And Michael does a quick lick. Meanwhile, they're eating these almonds the whole time. And Dwight goes, no, like this, and does this big like

• 37:49Speaker 00

  thing.

• 37:49Speaker 01

  Yeah. And in the process of doing this, they started laughing. And when they did, Rain, in his laughter, in his goofah, he spit like projectile almond. It like flew and hit Steve in the face. I have the blooper clip.

• 38:05Speaker 02

  We're gonna need a signal to bolt out of there at the slightest sign of danger. Okay, and that signal is lick your lips.

• 38:14Speaker 02

  No, no, no. Like this.

• 38:20Speaker 01

  Oh, no. Oh, dude, I'm so sorry. Oh, [bleep]. Oh, [bleep]. I'm so sorry, dude.

• 38:27Speaker 02

  It's okay.

• 38:29Speaker 00

  He sprayed the side of his face with wet, half chewed almonds. I mean, you can hear it come out of his mouth. You really can.

• 38:37Speaker 01

  And then Rain felt so bad and he grabs like a tissue and he starts in the moment just reacting. He just starts wiping Steve's face.

• 38:46Speaker 00

  Oh, my gosh. It's so good. It's so good. Michael then has a talking head where he says that in nature, there is a food chain. Where the bigger shark eats the littler shark and so on.

• 39:00Speaker 01

  Until it gets to the single cell shark.

• 39:03Speaker 00

  Exactly. And basically, you know, that's what they are. They're sharks. And then as he's getting out of the car, he's doing the whole Jaws theme.

• 39:14Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 39:15Speaker 00

  He goes into Prince Family Paper. He introduces himself as Michael Scarn and he sits down and he starts having just the most wonderful conversation with Mr. Prince. Michael's doing a kind of a good job.

• 39:33Speaker 01

  He is. And you know, he completely charms Mr. Prince.

• 39:37Speaker 00

  He does. He's a lawyer who knows a lot about paper because he is a genius.

• 39:43Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 39:43Speaker 00

  About some things, but not everything.

• 39:45Speaker 01

  Not everything.

• 39:46Speaker 00

  What's this? Is this a phone? Is this a phone?

• 39:49Speaker 01

  Mr. Roger Prince can't get enough of it. He's cackling laughing. He also learns that Prince Family Paper is a three person operation.

• 39:56Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 39:56Speaker 01

  Mr. Prince, his wife Linda, and his son.

• 39:59Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 39:59Speaker 01

  And his granddaughter Rebecca sits in the corner.

• 40:02Speaker 00

  Angela, I did a guest star breakdown for the members of Prince Family Paper.

• 40:09Speaker 01

  Oh, great.

• 40:10Speaker 00

  So Roger Prince, the father, was played by Dan Desmond. And I found this really interesting. From 1990 to 2001, he was in five different episodes of Law and Order, and he played a different character each time.

• 40:27Speaker 01

  Let me tell you, I love Law and Order, and they do that.

• 40:30Speaker 00

  I know.

• 40:30Speaker 01

  They bring people back. One time you're a police officer, the next time you're a judge.

• 40:34Speaker 00

  I was literally just watching a Law and Order marathon, and I swear Jeremy Sisto was like just a guest star, like a guy. And then in the next episode, he was a police officer in like a series regular.

• 40:49Speaker 01

  No, I don't doubt it.

• 40:50Speaker 00

  Did that happen?

• 40:51Speaker 01

  I feel like the rules of Law and Order are sort of like a soap opera.

• 40:54Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 40:55Speaker 01

  You can come back in many different forms.

• 40:57Speaker 00

  Well, they loved Dan Desmond over at Law and Order. He was also in the movie Bruce Almighty, and most recently in the mini-series Little Fires Everywhere.

• 41:05Speaker 01

  Gung, gung.

• 41:08Speaker 00

  Roger Prince Jr. was played by Dan Backandall. You might recognize him for his recurring roles on Veep, or The Goldbergs, or Space Force. He was also a regular on Life in Pieces. He has also been on Law and Order, but just one episode.

• 41:27Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 41:28Speaker 00

  Linda Price was played by Sharon Blackwood, who recently appeared in two episodes of Ozark, has never been on Law and Order. None of them have been on Monk.

• 41:40Speaker 01

  What?

• 41:40Speaker 00

  None.

• 41:41Speaker 01

  craziness. Okay, wait, I have a Law and Order story.

• 41:45Speaker 00

  What is it?

• 41:46Speaker 01

  It's one of my more embarrassing audition stories.

• 41:49Speaker 00

  You auditioned for Law and Order?

• 41:50Speaker 01

  I did. Shocker. Didn't get it. You'll know why. You guys, I was so excited. I love Law and Order. I would watch the marathon on TNT. I loved it.

• 42:02Speaker 00

  Yeah, same. I still watch the marathon.

• 42:04Speaker 01

  I still watch it. If it's on, I'm watching it. All right. I got an audition. I was so excited and I was very new to auditioning. Okay. I'd only booked a few commercials. It was to be a real estate agent. You know how the guys at the top of the show would like interview people while they were at work?

• 42:24Speaker 00

  And they're always too busy.

• 42:25Speaker 01

  They're always too busy.

• 42:26Speaker 00

  I gotta get somewhere.

• 42:27Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, like.

• 42:28Speaker 00

  This murder you're investigating is a big inconvenience to me. I have to show a house.

• 42:32Speaker 01

  Yeah, exactly.

• 42:33Speaker 00

  Are we done?

• 42:34Speaker 01

  Are we done? Exactly. I had just watched an episode where they were questioning these guys that were loading trash into like a garbage truck.

• 42:42Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 42:42Speaker 01

  They did not stop loading their trash.

• 42:44Speaker 00

  No.

• 42:45Speaker 01

  They're gonna keep, they're annoyed. I'm busy here. I gotta keep the truck moving.

• 42:48Speaker 00

  Always.

• 42:49Speaker 01

  Always. I had this in my brain. In the script, it said, "They question a real estate agent as she is setting out her signs for the day with the little flag, her showing signs."

• 43:01Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 43:01Speaker 01

  Right? You know those things.

• 43:03Speaker 00

  Lady, I'm not even joking. I think I literally just saw this episode.

• 43:07Speaker 01

  Are you kidding?

• 43:07Speaker 00

  Yeah, there was a blonde woman and she had to be blonde because that was part of the plot.

• 43:12Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 43:12Speaker 00

  By the way.

• 43:13Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 43:13Speaker 00

  And she was talking to them while putting out the little sign for selling the house.

• 43:19Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 43:20Speaker 00

  Oh, my God, I saw the part you didn't get.

• 43:22Speaker 01

  Okay, so I go in there and I'm like, okay, I got this. So it's the casting agent. She's sitting across from her desk. I was so nervous, but I was like, I got this. I got this. Literally, it's three lines. It's like three or four lines. That's it. All I had in my brain was, you will not interrupt me from putting out my real estate sign.

• 43:41Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 43:41Speaker 01

  That's the energy. Jenna in this woman's office. I moved two chairs out of my way.

• 43:47Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 43:48Speaker 01

  Her chairs, her chairs.

• 43:50Speaker 00

  You had to put up your sign.

• 43:51Speaker 01

  I moved them. And then when we started the scene, I am setting things out, setting it out, moving things.

• 43:57Speaker 00

  Busy.

• 43:58Speaker 01

  Busy. I'm moving things. And it must have been really distracting. She said, you know what, I'm gonna stop you.

• 44:05Speaker 00

  Oh, no, you never want to hear that in an audition.

• 44:08Speaker 01

  No, she was like, you're doing too much. Okay, you're doing too much. Stop moving things around and just deliver the lines. And I said, okay. This went into my brain as, don't touch her chairs, but do some great space work.

• 44:23Speaker 00

  Yeah, mime it.

• 44:24Speaker 01

  Now I mime putting out real estate signs. Mime, mime, mime, mime, mime. I must have just looked ridiculous.

• 44:32Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 44:33Speaker 01

  I didn't get the part. I did too much business.

• 44:35Speaker 00

  You know who's been on Law and Order?

• 44:37Speaker 01

  Who?

• 44:38Speaker 00

  Rainn Wilson.

• 44:39Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 44:40Speaker 00

  He plays a creepy janitor.

• 44:41Speaker 01

  Oh, I need to see it.

• 44:43Speaker 00

  During one of my marathons, I was just sitting there and I was like, oh, it's Rain. Rain, there he is. You know who else has been on Jackie DeBotton?

• 44:51Speaker 01

  Ah.

• 44:52Speaker 00

  Yeah, she was just on in the marathon I watched.

• 44:54Speaker 01

  Jackie. Well, if I ever get to audition for Law and Order again, I'm not going to do a lot of business.

• 45:00Speaker 00

  Don't do it. Finally, Rebecca Prince, the little girl, was played by Emily Evan Ray, and she's gonna come back in a couple of episodes, actually. Emily recently produced and directed a documentary called Stop the Bleed about the mass shooting in Parkland, Florida.

• 45:17Speaker 01

  My gosh.

• 45:18Speaker 00

  Emily was born and raised in Parkland, and she made the movie to give a voice to the family, friends, and the community who were affected. She won the Audience Award at the Fort Lauderdale Film Festival for Best Documentary.

• 45:32Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 45:33Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's what she's been up to.

• 45:35Speaker 01

  That's amazing.

• 45:36Speaker 00

  Yes. Well, on that note, I think we should take a break, and then we'll be back to join the group at Dunder Mifflin, because they have more to say.

• 45:43Speaker 01

  There's a big debate going on.

• 45:53Speaker 01

  Well, we're back in the bullpen.

• 45:55Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 45:56Speaker 01

  And the debate is still going on, the hot or not. There's a whole debate about what is attractive hot.

• 46:02Speaker 00

  Right.

• 46:02Speaker 01

  Kevin has a lot to say.

• 46:03Speaker 00

  The most ever. But first, Jim is going to comment that, you know, sometimes we forget to think of celebrities as real people. Kevin sort of says it's a gut thing, right?

• 46:15Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 46:15Speaker 00

  And then Jim gets all up in Kevin's ear and gives like a husky whisper.

• 46:22Speaker 01

  Sultry, paints a picture of Hillary Swank coming up to him.

• 46:26Speaker 00

  We got so much mail about John Krasinski's husky voice to Kevin in this episode. It was like, just, I was too shy to put it in my document.

• 46:40Speaker 01

  Oh, come on. Give me one nugget, something you remember someone saying. One nugget.

• 46:46Speaker 00

  Basically, this woman said,

• 46:48Speaker 01

  What?

• 46:50Speaker 00

  John Krasinski could debate anything in my ear if he uses that voice.

• 46:56Speaker 00

  It was so funny to me. But I did write down this one because Laura B. needed a soapbox moment, so I thought I'd give it to her.

• 47:05Speaker 01

  Okay, Laura.

• 47:06Speaker 00

  Laura says this, "It always bothers me that when Stanley asks why they're making a distinction between beautiful and hot, Kevin says, quote, 'A painting can be beautiful, but I don't want to bang a painting.' But later in the episode, Kevin turns around and tells Jim to respect the game after Jim narrates the saucy scenario with Hillary Swank. And Kevin says, 'No, it's is she hot, not would you bang her.' But he just used the same phrase to explain why he wouldn't bang a painting.

• 47:42Speaker 01

  Kevin, you can't use the same argument on different sides.

• 47:46Speaker 00

  That's what Laura B. says. She says, "You respect the game, Kevin."

• 47:51Speaker 01

  Yeah, Kevin.

• 47:52Speaker 00

  Laura, we hear you.

• 47:54Speaker 01

  Angela has been over in accounting. She hasn't wanted to participate, but she can't take it anymore. All right? Kevin holding court like this, she's had it. She gets up and she says, "Okay, I wasn't going to dignify this discussion by getting involved, but I don't even get the discussion. Hot is a temperature, people, but Kevin deserves to lose for what he said. So yes, she's hot. She's hot as heck. She's a female Boris Becker." I love that Boris Becker is it for Angela Martin. Who knew?

• 48:26Speaker 00

  I know. I didn't even realize Angela Martin was a tennis fan.

• 48:30Speaker 01

  Clearly.

• 48:31Speaker 00

  Yeah. Well, y'all, Boris Becker was a German tennis player who shot to stardom when he won the Wimbledon men's singles title in 1985. It was significant because he was only 17 years old and he was the first unseeded player and the first German to win the Wimbledon singles title, as well as the youngest ever male Grand Slam singles champion.

• 48:57Speaker 01

  It was huge. I watched it with my mom. My mom's a big, big tennis player. She's phenomenal. She was ranked by the USTA by her age group. I spent my whole childhood on a tennis court.

• 49:07Speaker 00

  Wow.

• 49:07Speaker 01

  Yeah. My mom is like-

• 49:08Speaker 00

  I did not know that about your mom.

• 49:09Speaker 01

  My mom's a badass tennis player. We're a big tennis family, guys. There are two things that are always on at our house, either the weather or tennis, because my mom has the tennis channel.

• 49:19Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 49:20Speaker 01

  And we'll watch old games. Oh, I'd love it when Boris Becker would play Stefan Egberg, because my mom had shown me old games of Bjorn Borg, and he was the other big Swede. There was Stefan and Bjorn Borg, and Bjorn Borg would play John McEnroe. Speaking of, Boris Becker played John McEnroe, and it's one of the longest games in tennis history. It was the Davis Cup. It was six hours and something minutes. Can you imagine playing tennis for six hours?

• 49:43Speaker 00

  No.

• 49:43Speaker 01

  Unbelievable.

• 49:44Speaker 00

  I can't imagine playing tennis for six minutes. So.

• 49:48Speaker 01

  Anyway, Boris Becker does it for Angela Martin.

• 49:52Speaker 00

  I think we should go back to Prince's family paper, lady. We forgot to mention that Dwight has come in. He's going to pretend to get a job there. He says, "Fire your son. I'll be your son." You can visit him on the weekends.

• 50:07Speaker 01

  I know. He comes in like full in a china cabinet.

• 50:11Speaker 00

  And he's gonna explain to Mr. Prince just how awful his current boss is, you know, because he says, "Why are you looking for a new job?" And he's like, "Well, my current boss is cruel." Terrible. Meanwhile, Michael's kind of walking around. He wants to get a photograph of their kind of territory map over there by Mrs. Prince.

• 50:32Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 50:33Speaker 00

  And then he offers to help her granddaughter with a math problem. I have to say, when I was watching these scenes, I was just so impressed with the detail that went into this little set.

• 50:48Speaker 01

  I know. Well, I was emailing with Michael Gallenberg about this particular set, and he said, "Everything you see, they had to bring in."

• 50:55Speaker 00

  Crazy.

• 50:55Speaker 01

  Crazy. I loved all the details, too.

• 50:58Speaker 00

  Well, I noticed on that little girl's desk, did you see it? She had her own nameplate.

• 51:03Speaker 01

  I know.

• 51:03Speaker 00

  It says Rebecca.

• 51:04Speaker 01

  I know.

• 51:05Speaker 00

  And also on the desk are all of these little, like, hand-painted ceramic animals, like the kind that your granddaughter would give to you. And also, I noticed on the wall, there was one of those photo collages, love framed photos. They had clearly asked the actors to bring in some pictures. And all of those details, to me, just like really set this up as a family business. And it made the whole storyline even more heartbreaking.

• 51:33Speaker 01

  No, they had a whole family photo wall. I zoomed in. One is like a wedding photo. And then there's like your grandson in his baseball uniform, holding his baseball bat.

• 51:42Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 51:42Speaker 01

  And then there was a big painting, like your kids do at preschool, where they take their hands and put it in paint, and then they make their handprints into flowers.

• 51:51Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 51:51Speaker 01

  Just like the most amazing details. I feel like this is Michael's true dream office, because it is a real family.

• 52:00Speaker 00

  Yes, Angela, you're so right. He wants his office to be his family.

• 52:06Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 52:06Speaker 00

  And this office is a family.

• 52:08Speaker 01

  I know. Well, that's going to weigh on his heartstrings.

• 52:12Speaker 00

  Well, as he wraps up his visit, he gets Mr. Prince to just hand him a list of their top clients.

• 52:20Speaker 01

  Oh, Mr. Prince, he's just so trusting. He's like, "Listen, if you want to see we do a good job, here's all of our references. Here's all of our clients."

• 52:29Speaker 00

  Well Dwight and Michael immediately start licking their lips.

• 52:31Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 52:33Speaker 00

  Time to get out of there.

• 52:34Speaker 01

  Time to get out of there.

• 52:35Speaker 00

  Dwight says, sir, can you give me a ride home? Michael's like, yeah.

• 52:40Speaker 01

  And then they sprint, they walk, hurry, hurry, hurry to the car. Get out, peel out, peel out, because they know they got all the info.

• 52:46Speaker 00

  Yes. Well, as they're trying to flee, Michael runs over like the parking curb.

• 52:53Speaker 01

  He runs over the bumper, that cement block.

• 52:57Speaker 00

  Yeah, I don't know what you call that thing.

• 52:57Speaker 01

  What do you call that? It's like a partition. It's like the cement block. So you don't go into the other spot.

• 53:02Speaker 00

  I've done it.

• 53:03Speaker 01

  I've done it, but I haven't backed back over it.

• 53:05Speaker 00

  No, of course not.

• 53:06Speaker 01

  Once you realize you go over it, keep going.

• 53:09Speaker 00

  Well, I asked Randy, how did we do this stunt?

• 53:14Speaker 01

  What'd he say?

• 53:15Speaker 00

  He said, we had two different identical cars. One that was totally normal and one that was pre-rigged with a damaged bumper. So Steve never damaged a car. And if you notice, the camera stays inside the car on Dwight and Michael. So what Steve was actually driving over were just a couple of sandbags.

• 53:36Speaker 01

  Well, it totally sold it.

• 53:38Speaker 00

  It did, and they had to add all that kind of crunching effect in editing. So yeah, fakie cement thing was actually sandbags and sound effects.

• 53:49Speaker 01

  The Prince family hears this commotion and they come running out. And of course, Mr. Prince, because he's so sweet, offers to fix the bumper. And they're like, no, no, no, we, well, wait, no, please let us, we'll get a tow truck. And he's like, oh no, they're too expensive. I got it. And Jenna, this scene made me think of my dad.

• 54:06Speaker 00

  It made me think of my dad too, because of the duct tape.

• 54:08Speaker 01

  My dad would fix anything with duct tape.

• 54:11Speaker 00

  Same.

• 54:12Speaker 01

  My dad did this with my first car. The handle on my glove box broke.

• 54:16Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 54:17Speaker 01

  My dad duct taped it.

• 54:19Speaker 00

  You know what it's making me think of?

• 54:20Speaker 01

  What?

• 54:21Speaker 00

  Josh's duct tape is zip ties.

• 54:24Speaker 01

  All over the house.

• 54:25Speaker 00

  Your husband zip ties it? Our dads would duct tape it.

• 54:28Speaker 01

  Yeah, my dishwasher tray has been zip tied for four years. It finally fell apart. We had to get a new dishwasher.

• 54:36Speaker 00

  But you can pretty much fix anything with duct tape.

• 54:39Speaker 01

  Pretty much. Including a whole bumper. So now they're in the car, they're gonna head back. Dwight still is celebrating. He wants to do high fives.

• 54:48Speaker 00

  He calls them the soccer family.

• 54:50Speaker 01

  I know. Dwight is that like young kid on the soccer field who doesn't know when to stop.

• 54:55Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 54:55Speaker 01

  Like you scored the goal, now stop taunting.

• 54:57Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 54:58Speaker 01

  All right?

• 54:58Speaker 00

  Exactly.

• 54:59Speaker 01

  Michael is having some regrets.

• 55:01Speaker 00

  Yeah. Dwight tries to high five Michael and Michael's like not having any of it. So back in the office, Toby is studying Hilary Swank.

• 55:11Speaker 01

  Pam is gonna make a speech. She's gonna appeal to the ladies of the office.

• 55:16Speaker 00

  Yeah. What, are we gonna let the Kevins of the world decide things for us? And then Oscar projects this picture of Hilary Swank's face with all this grid on it, right?

• 55:27Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 55:27Speaker 00

  And he talks about coinophilia.

• 55:30Speaker 01

  The symmetry, right, of the face?

• 55:33Speaker 00

  So, coinophilia is this, stay with me here, evolutionary hypothesis for explaining why certain animals seek mates that look a certain way. And it proposes that animals, including humans, find the symmetry of features most attractive. I read all about it. I barely understood it.

• 55:56Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 55:56Speaker 00

  It was very wordy. But in ancient Greece, they created something called the golden ratio of beauty, or phi. It's a mathematical equation. And it says if your face possesses a specific set of ratios of distance between the different features on your face, they believed it could be mathematically proven that you had a perfect face. This equation is what Da Vinci used when he was creating his Vertruvian man.

• 56:34Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 56:35Speaker 00

  That is what Oscar's, I think, really talking about. I think he's talking about ratios. I don't think he's really talking about coinophilia.

• 56:43Speaker 01

  Stanley's gonna address the group and he makes a really moving speech.

• 56:47Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 56:47Speaker 01

  About how he's trying to be more optimistic in life. And in years past, he might have been critical, but he's not gonna be that person anymore.

• 56:54Speaker 00

  No. I liked this speech.

• 56:56Speaker 01

  I did too.

• 56:57Speaker 00

  You know, he's saying, why are we doing this to one another? Let's just live our lives, basically. Yeah. Andy calls for a final vote on Hillary Swank's hotness. It's another tie. We discover, like, this is what happens. People just argue their position. They don't listen.

• 57:18Speaker 01

  That's what Oscar says.

• 57:19Speaker 00

  Yeah, no one's moved.

• 57:20Speaker 01

  No one's moving.

• 57:21Speaker 00

  But Michael gets back to the office during all of this.

• 57:25Speaker 01

  He's clearly worked up. He goes in his office with Dwight. They shut the door. He doesn't want to go through with it.

• 57:32Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 57:33Speaker 01

  Dwight knows that Michael is failing, so he's gonna try his best to convince Michael that what they did was right. And of course, he's going to use the one argument that will clearly point this out to Michael, which is a Lord of the Rings analogy. Dwight says, "There was a terrible war. Ugh, so many died, far too many died. But if Frodo hadn't destroyed the ring, then goodness itself might have died."

• 57:58Speaker 00

  I didn't understand that. I was Michael. I have questions. I wrote them down.

• 58:04Speaker 01

  Okay, I thought you might. Listen, I am not a Lord of the Rings expert. I don't want to get mail, guys. I just am a fan. I've seen the movies multiple times. I've read some of the books. It's a big commitment to get through them all, okay? I have not gotten through them all.

• 58:18Speaker 00

  Okay, well, here's my first question.

• 58:20Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 58:21Speaker 00

  Who is the Lord of the Rings?

• 58:22Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 58:23Speaker 00

  Is it Frodo?

• 58:24Speaker 01

  No.

• 58:25Speaker 00

  Is it the guy with the beard?

• 58:26Speaker 01

  No, it's not like a one person.

• 58:28Speaker 00

  What is the ring?

• 58:29Speaker 01

  Well, it's called the One Ring, right? The One Ring to Rule Them All.

• 58:33Speaker 00

  Okay. Oh, Lord. Okay. All right. Where do I even start?

• 58:37Speaker 01

  First of all, here's what I want to say. I know the battle that Dwight's referencing. I'm pretty sure it's the Battle of the Black Gate, right? Which is the big, major battle for the War of the Ring. They fought it right in front of the gate, and they were trying to distract the Eye of Sauron, because the Eye of Sauron tracks whoever holds the ring, and Frodo had the ring, and Frodo was trying to get to Mount Doom to drop it into the lava lake thing, right? That's the one place it can be destroyed.

• 59:03Speaker 00

  Why do you have to get rid of it? Why is he destroying it?

• 59:05Speaker 01

  Okay, because it's innately evil.

• 59:08Speaker 01

  I'll explain.

• 59:09Speaker 00

  Okay, so it's called the Lord of the Rings, but it's one ring. So it shouldn't be why it's not called Lord of the Rings.

• 59:16Speaker 01

  Okay, okay.

• 59:17Speaker 00

  I mean.

• 59:18Speaker 01

  There, okay, so Bilbo Baggins, right?

• 59:20Speaker 00

  Oh, my God.

• 59:21Speaker 01

  He found the ring. Gollum had been hiding it. This is a really bad overview from me. Anyway, he gave it to Frodo. And you know, Gandalf realized that Bilbo Baggins, like when he had the ring, it kind of made him a different person. So Gandalf was like, something's up with that, you know? But.

• 59:40Speaker 00

  So many names.

• 59:41Speaker 01

  There was this inscription, when you take the ring and you put it in the fire, because just fire can't kill it. Dragon fire can't kill it.

• 59:47Speaker 00

  Not even dragon fire?

• 59:48Speaker 01

  No, no, it won't melt the ring. But when you put it like in the fire, it has an inscription and it's written, I think, is it an elfish guise? Okay, don't write me.

• 59:57Speaker 04

  I believe so.

• 59:58Speaker 01

  Thank you, Sam. When it's translated, the inscription says, and I did look this up, so I got it right. "One ring to rule them all, one ring to find them, one ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them." So the ring is essentially evil in nature because it's an extension of Sauron.

• 1:00:16Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:00:17Speaker 01

  And Sauron's like bad. He's bad, bad. But anyway, Frodo ultimately, you know, puts it in the lava lake thing and it finally is destroyed.

• 1:00:28Speaker 00

  So lava is hotter than dragon fire?

• 1:00:30Speaker 01

  Well, no, it had to go to Mount Doom specifically.

• 1:00:34Speaker 00

  It's a special lava.

• 1:00:35Speaker 01

  Because that's where Sauron made it.

• 1:00:37Speaker 00

  Oh, so it had to go back to where it came from?

• 1:00:39Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:00:40Speaker 00

  Sort of.

• 1:00:40Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:00:41Speaker 00

  It could only sort of melt into its original source material.

• 1:00:47Speaker 01

  Yeah, I think so. Here's a cool thing, you know.

• 1:00:50Speaker 00

  Can I just, before, I know we're talking about the ring. But at the end of this, are you going to tell me who the Lord of the Rings is?

• 1:00:57Speaker 01

  No, because it's, it's.

• 1:00:58Speaker 00

  It's no one?

• 1:00:59Speaker 01

  Lord, it's not one lord.

• 1:01:01Speaker 00

  Oh, my God.

• 1:01:01Speaker 01

  Sam?

• 1:01:02Speaker 04

  Okay, well, so originally, they make a bunch of rings.

• 1:01:05Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:01:06Speaker 04

  There's like.

• 1:01:06Speaker 00

  So there are several rings.

• 1:01:07Speaker 04

  Nine for the, like, men, some for the elves, some for the dwarves.

• 1:01:11Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:01:11Speaker 04

  Then the one ring can rule them all. That's what makes it so dangerous.

• 1:01:15Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:01:15Speaker 04

  And I guess, I mean, technically, the Lord of all the Rings would be Sauron, who made it.

• 1:01:21Speaker 01

  Well, because he made the one ring.

• 1:01:23Speaker 04

  Yes. If you were to get this ring, you would be the lord of all the rings.

• 1:01:27Speaker 01

  But it's not.

• 1:01:27Speaker 04

  But it will corrupt you and make you evil.

• 1:01:29Speaker 01

  It will corrupt you.

• 1:01:29Speaker 04

  And that's what happens.

• 1:01:30Speaker 01

  It damages people.

• 1:01:32Speaker 04

  Sméagol the Gollum, it'll.

• 1:01:33Speaker 01

  Yeah. And the humans, the humans, it makes them like.

• 1:01:36Speaker 04

  Yeah, it makes you insane and murderous and jealous and awful.

• 1:01:40Speaker 00

  I mean, that sounded good, actually, Sam. That was, you made that interesting.

• 1:01:44Speaker 01

  Oh, my God, I'm sitting right here.

• 1:01:47Speaker 00

  I mean, I was like, while I was listening to that, I was like, huh, that sounds like really Shakespearean. And sort of like, maybe I like it.

• 1:01:53Speaker 01

  Maybe read the books. Maybe you'd like the books better than the movies because you lose interest when things get fantastical. And you could just flip a few pages past that.

• 1:02:00Speaker 00

  I don't know. Well, Michael is not moved by Dwight's Lord of the Rings logic.

• 1:02:08Speaker 01

  Yeah, like you, he's like, nah, don't, no, okay, whatever.

• 1:02:12Speaker 00

  I mean, you know, he's gonna sprint out of the office with the piece of paper. He's gonna destroy it. I assumed he was gonna run to the shredder.

• 1:02:24Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:02:25Speaker 00

  No, he's runs all the way outside to his car. But shoot, he forgot his keys.

• 1:02:32Speaker 01

  Meanwhile, Dwight is chasing him, trying to get it from him. He gets his keys and then goes back out.

• 1:02:38Speaker 00

  And we know how elaborate it was to shoot that because all of those places, the stairwell, the hallway, they're all in different locations, in different buildings.

• 1:02:47Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:02:48Speaker 00

  So they would have to reset up and then make those guys run and then move and set up and make those guys run. They did such a good job of selling how tired they were because they only ever really had to run for short distances.

• 1:03:00Speaker 01

  Right, right.

• 1:03:01Speaker 00

  It was not actually all tied together.

• 1:03:03Speaker 01

  In the end Dwight is like, Michael, you have to do this because if, if we don't do this, someone will do this to us. It will happen.

• 1:03:12Speaker 00

  Yeah. Did you see the piles of fakey snow outside in the parking lot?

• 1:03:17Speaker 01

  I did.

• 1:03:17Speaker 00

  Nice touch, guys.

• 1:03:19Speaker 01

  Ultimately, Michael agrees to call Wallace and give him the print paper client list. And he realizes he's not a shark.

• 1:03:28Speaker 00

  No. It broke my heart that he gave him the list.

• 1:03:31Speaker 01

  I know.

• 1:03:32Speaker 00

  I was really rooting for Michael to destroy the list.

• 1:03:37Speaker 01

  There's going to be a callback to it.

• 1:03:38Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 1:03:39Speaker 01

  It's brutal.

• 1:03:39Speaker 00

  Brutal.

• 1:03:41Speaker 01

  Michael has a talking head. He shares it's a bittersweet moment. There was an alt talking head. I have to play it, guys. It's in deleted scenes. The last line of it made me spit out my iced tea as I was watching it.

• 1:03:53Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:03:57Speaker 03

  I've always been intrigued with the idea of ruling with an iron fist. And it is good for ruling. But you know what it's not good for? For caressing the face of a child. Or making love to a woman with your hands. Or thumb wrestling. Or hanging out in the rain. Or if you walk through a magnet store, you get covered in magnets. Oh. Well. I'm done. No more iron fisting for me.

• 1:04:44Speaker 00

  He is so ridiculous. How did Steve get through that?

• 1:04:49Speaker 01

  I don't know.

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  How did he get through the line about walking through a magnet store?

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  I don't know. All of it. It's so ridiculous. It made me laugh. I was like, everybody needs to hear this.

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  How would they pick? How would they? All of these are so good. How do they get in the editing room? They have to pick one. Uh, we have to ask Greg about that sometime. I want to hear more about

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  Their process.

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  Pick things. I mean, I know they would bring us in sometimes and ask our opinion, but it feels like every episode, they were having to make these decisions.

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  Well, Michael ends up ultimately being the tiebreaker. So we do have a winner.

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  Yes, he very casually says, she's hot.

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  Yeah.

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  And then our team wins.

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  Our team won. And we had a lot of tangents in this, guys.

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  We did. We hope you enjoyed it.

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  This is just a window into our search history, guys. You're welcome.

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  We will be back next week with stress relief, part one, and an epic cold open that I can't wait to talk about.

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  Same, Panda!

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  I can't wait.

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  We'll see you next week.

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  See you next week.

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  Thank you for listening to Office Ladies Second Drink.

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  This episode was initially created in collaboration with Earwolf.

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  Office Ladies is a presentation of Odyssey and is produced by Jenna Fisher and Angela Kinsey. Our senior producer is Matt Beagle.

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  Our Second Drinks episodes are produced by Molly Nugent.

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  Our audio engineer is Sam Pfeifer.

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  Odyssey's executive producer is Leah Reese-Dennis.

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  Office Ladies was mixed and mastered by Bill Schultz.

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  Our theme song is Rubber Tree by Creed Bratton.