Clark Duke is Back!

This week on Office Ladies 6.0, Jenna and Angela welcome back Office favorite Clark Duke to the studio! The trio kicks off the show with a chit-chat discussion inspired by a local Jaws remake, on which films they'd love to recreate in their own hometowns. Then, Clark dives into his new holiday heist-comedy film, Stranglehold, reflecting on its six-year journey, working with The Office’s Jake Lacy, and casting his own family in the film. Along the way, Clark answers pressing Office questions about Jan, powerpoint skills, and Movember mustaches. So grab your popcorn, fire up your fax machines... and enjoy! Office Ladies Website - Submit a fan question for Around the Town, Chit Chat, and Second Drink favorite moment:https://officeladies.com/submitaquestion Follow Us on Instagram:OfficeLadiesPod https://www.instagram.com/officeladiespod/ Follow Us on YouTube https://youtube.com/@officeladiespod?si=D0oKJwFJuK9txzFM Follow Us on TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@officeladiespod?_t=ZT-8y1gqTrJyOs&_r=1

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  I'm Jenna Fisher.

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  And I'm Angela Kinsey.

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  We were on The Office together and we're best friends. And now we're doing the ultimate Office lovers podcast just for you. Each week, we will dive deeper into the world of The Office with exclusive interviews, behind the scenes details, and lots of BFF stories. We're the Office Lady 6.0.

• 0:25Speaker 02

  That music was rousing.

• 0:26Speaker 01

  Hey!

• 0:28Speaker 00

  It's Clark Duke back in the studio with us, you guys.

• 0:31Speaker 01

  This is pretty cool.

• 0:32Speaker 02

  Thank you for having me.

• 0:33Speaker 01

  You're looking really sharp.

• 0:35Speaker 00

  You are. You have like great hair. It's doing a swoop.

• 0:39Speaker 02

  It's got a lot of volume today.

• 0:41Speaker 00

  It does.

• 0:41Speaker 02

  Yeah, I just got it cut yesterday, so you never know. You know, that next day, it's a total crap shoot.

• 0:46Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 0:46Speaker 02

  So I'm happy that this worked out.

• 0:48Speaker 00

  You got good day two hair going.

• 0:50Speaker 02

  You know what I mean? Usually it takes a couple of weeks to kind of really be like peak haircut.

• 0:54Speaker 01

  To settle in.

• 0:54Speaker 00

  For your haircut to settle in. Exactly.

• 0:57Speaker 02

  The botox and the haircut.

• 0:58Speaker 01

  Both. They need a couple of weeks.

• 1:00Speaker 00

  They need a little bit. Listen, I want you to know, people loved your episode the last time you were on.

• 1:05Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:06Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah, I have some comments I thought I'd share. What do you guys think? Ready?

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  I hope they're mean.

• 1:12Speaker 00

  They are not mean.

• 1:13Speaker 02

  Okay.

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  And one might be a little snarky, but it's not at you, so don't worry. First of all, people had this to say, Clark looks exactly the same.

• 1:24Speaker 02

  Great.

• 1:24Speaker 00

  Many people said that. You're like defying age and whatnot. And folks loved the episode. One person said, "That was one of my favorite episodes today. What an absolute treat."

• 1:35Speaker 02

  Wow. I didn't know my mom had an account to leave comments.

• 1:40Speaker 01

  I appreciate her.

• 1:41Speaker 00

  Okay, how about this one? "I listened to this today and Clark may be your best guest yet. The three of you lightened the mood so much while I was stuck in traffic. Great episode."

• 1:53Speaker 02

  Has anyone pitched like a permanent third chair position?

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  This is what's happening. Look in all caps, "Why has he not aged?" Okay?

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  I'm actually 58. People have no idea.

• 2:06Speaker 00

  People have no idea. You're a vampire.

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  I'm full of preservatives.

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  And then, you guys, people thought you looked fabulous. Okay, we've already said that. Jenna, people went on and on about your hairstyle. You got red flames. And then, this one gal had this to say. "I love that Angela looks like the county just took away two sacks worth of her cats."

• 2:31Speaker 02

  Did you look sad in the photo?

• 2:33Speaker 00

  I went to the picture and this was a day I drove to work with wet hair. And you know what? You know what? That person isn't wrong. I do look like the county took away my cats. Oh, lady, I just look at it.

• 2:44Speaker 02

  You do not.

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  I do get it. Maybe I should have, um, maybe I should have blow dried my hair. Lastly, I'll end on this. This is from Lynn Kay, who said, "This was one of the best interviews on the show. I listened to it twice while on the road for work." Oh, so Clark, welcome back.

• 3:02Speaker 01

  Welcome back.

• 3:03Speaker 02

  Thank you. I hope to not disappoint Lynn Kay on this one.

• 3:08Speaker 00

  I don't think you will. I think we're up to a solid start.

• 3:11Speaker 02

  A lot of time left. A lot of game left to play.

• 3:14Speaker 00

  It's true.

• 3:15Speaker 01

  Angela, you've been saving something fun. I'm very excited to finally hear about it. You wanted to share it when Clark was here.

• 3:21Speaker 00

  I did. Okay, so Clark, you know, we've been starting the show with a chit chat.

• 3:25Speaker 01

  And we usually get a suggestion from a listener for our chit chat. But Angela has a suggestion today.

• 3:32Speaker 00

  Yeah, and I really wanted to do it today, Clark, with you here, since we're going to be talking about your film and filmmaking. So this is a little bit of an inspo for the chit chat question of the day. But first, I want to give you guys some backstory. Okay, so one of my tennis gals, Francesette, stay with me, Clark. Francesette was telling me this story about her brother-in-law, Ralph. And he and his pals from growing up, they're like childhood friends, they loved the movie Jaws, growing up. And they decided to do a shot-by-shot remake of the movie Jaws. They filmed it in their hometown of Quincy, Massachusetts. It took them years to complete this, you guys. And their version is titled Quincy Jaws.

• 4:16Speaker 00

  Maybe for legal reasons? Not sure, but it's called Quincy Jaws.

• 4:20Speaker 01

  Are you familiar with this?

• 4:21Speaker 02

  I am familiar with this.

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  You are?

• 4:23Speaker 01

  I see you nodding.

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  Okay, all right. So I told Francesette I wanted to share about this. She said they're so excited. And I found an interview that they did on a local station talking about their journey of making this movie. I have two clips I want to share with you guys. So this is filmmaker Tim DeGust and Ralph Richardson with Eileen Mayhar on the Milton Access TV show, talking about their movie. And this first clip is them saying how it all came about.

• 4:51Speaker 03

  Are you guys all from Quincy who are in it?

• 4:54Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 4:54Speaker 03

  All right, so tell me about it. Whose idea was it?

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  Um, growing, like, we all fell in love with the film that just came out when we were all like 10, 11 years old. We just fell in love with it. I personally, like, loved it. I started doing like Jaws parties and Jaws fests.

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  That's how the whole thing started.

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  So what would a Jaws party be?

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  Uh, we would just watch the movie. I'd do trivia and like I'd do $100 to who could answer the trivia. But everybody could answer it because everybody was just a Jaws junkie.

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  Yeah.

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  And we started in local bars, bus trips, boat cruises. It just got big. I did it for maybe, I don't know, maybe six or seven years. The last one I had was in 2016 and the director, Rob LaMonica, who would plays Quint, you know, we were all feeling pretty good. He says, "We're just gonna start filming. We're gonna start filming this movie." And in the beginning, I was like, "Ah, yeah." It was just like in the back of my mind.

• 5:51Speaker 05

  It sounded like just talk.

• 5:52Speaker 04

  Yeah, it was just talk. It was just talk from drinking.

• 5:56Speaker 03

  Sure.

• 5:56Speaker 04

  And it exploded. That summer took off.

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  Okay. It started with Jaws parties.

• 6:04Speaker 02

  Jaws parties.

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  Yeah.

• 6:05Speaker 01

  But then it was just talk from drinking.

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  Yeah.

• 6:07Speaker 02

  Yeah.

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  Just talk from drinking.

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  We've all been there.

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  We've all been there.

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  And then they committed to it, you guys. It took them so long to make this. And I just sort of loved the spirit of that. They didn't give up. And I need you to hear how long it took them all together.

• 6:24Speaker 03

  Again, it took about two years to film?

• 6:26Speaker 05

  No, it took like seven, seven years of film and a year to edit. So like in those seven years, we would go back and be like, like the Indianapolis scene, for instance, right? So we recorded a lot of it in like in one take. And then it'd be like, "Oh, well, we forgot this part." Like a year later. We could go back and do that.

• 6:48Speaker 03

  So you were very strict about absolutely following scene by scene. You wanted every scene in the film.

• 6:54Speaker 04

  There were certain things, you know, as Jaws fans, we really wanted to say and do. We missed a lot of stuff too. But again, like I said, we watched it after and we're like, "Ah, you know, we forgot." Or like, "Oh, no, there's a light on in the back." Like, you know what I mean? Then you would have to stop. And here we are, you know, all fathers of kids going to hockey or something like that. So sometimes we wouldn't get together for another three months or two months, like, "Oh, I'm coming. I can't make it."

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  Okay, so he mentioned that it might be a year later that they realized they forgot a shot. And he said that-

• 7:30Speaker 02

  That's not even that crazy, honestly.

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  Really?

• 7:33Speaker 02

  I mean, yeah.

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  As a filmmaker?

• 7:34Speaker 02

  Totally. There's a scene in Stranglehold that we shot a year later in my garage.

• 7:40Speaker 00

  Really?

• 7:41Speaker 02

  Yeah. I was just like, I just came up with an idea. I was like, "Man, I really wish I had this here." And then I was just like, "All right, let's just do it." Have you seen this Jaws?

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  I have. Okay, I'm gonna get to it. So-

• 7:51Speaker 01

  Have you seen it?

• 7:51Speaker 02

  No.

• 7:52Speaker 01

  I haven't seen it either.

• 7:53Speaker 02

  I remember this story, though. But I have not seen the actual film.

• 7:55Speaker 01

  Of this town of people who recreated it.

• 7:58Speaker 02

  That's super fun. He just fucking loves Jaws. You know, we just, we love getting together, talking about Jaws.

• 8:03Speaker 00

  Talking about Jaws.

• 8:03Speaker 02

  Mark Wahlberg.

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  They also had to make all the props themselves, you guys. And so it would be like, "Who has a boat? Well, so-and-so has a boat, so we'll go film on his boat."

• 8:14Speaker 02

  We're in New England, everybody's got a boat.

• 8:15Speaker 00

  Everyone's got a boat. And then, like, they said they would look back at footage and be like, "Remember you had a beard?" Because it'd be like a year later. And then they'd be like, "Well, I don't have a beard now." Or it'd be three months later. So he said sometimes they would just like tape hair under their face or use a Sharpie. So as you watch the movie, you might like clock some hair in different spots.

• 8:33Speaker 02

  There's some continuity issues.

• 8:34Speaker 00

  Some continuity issues. They also had to make a giant shark head that like lived in one of their garages for like so long. And my friend Francesette sent me a picture, like, there's no putting a car in there. It's just a massive shark head. I guess the director, Rob LaMonica, really took that on and made it out of all kinds of different stuff. But you guys, I have seen it. My friend Francesette had a Jaws party and she invited everybody. And I saw Quincy Jaws. I took my kids to this like viewing party. It was in her backyard. It's amazing. And we watched the original and then we watched theirs. And we were like, "Pretty damn good." They fucking crushed it.

• 9:12Speaker 02

  Wait, is, is your friend real, did I-

• 9:15Speaker 00

  This is her brother-in-law, Ralph.

• 9:16Speaker 02

  Her brother-in-law is the guy?

• 9:18Speaker 00

  Yeah, the two guys that-

• 9:19Speaker 02

  But he's one of the makers of the-

• 9:20Speaker 00

  Yes, yes, it's her brother-in-law. And this is their hometown. Yeah. So it's a big deal. And I am gonna share in our Insta stories where you can watch Quincy Jaws. They have a website. And the cool thing is, you guys, on their website, you can find the movie and watch it. They also have t-shirts and all the proceeds are helping raise funds for disabled vets. And it's really cool. So it's such a heartfelt thing, though, to see this community of people and childhood friends come together and start out on this journey as filmmakers and finish it, you know?

• 9:54Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 9:54Speaker 00

  So-

• 9:55Speaker 02

  And not get sued by Steven Spielberg or Universal.

• 9:58Speaker 00

  Let's hope not. But this brings us to our chit chat question of the day, which is, if there was a movie that you're a fan of, that you could film with your friends and do a shot-by-shot remake of, what would it be?

• 10:12Speaker 02

  Whoa.

• 10:13Speaker 00

  This is open to the whole room, everybody.

• 10:16Speaker 01

  We have Jordan with us today.

• 10:17Speaker 02

  This is a tricky proposition, because I mean, you're kind of, I feel like you're set, like, it's really, like, what's the, didn't Gus fans remake Psycho? And everybody really hated it. Like, this is a tricky proposition.

• 10:28Speaker 00

  This is for your friends, though. Maybe not on a public platform.

• 10:31Speaker 02

  But most of my friends are actors.

• 10:33Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 10:33Speaker 02

  Like, does it have to be a shot-for-shot? Or can it be like an interpretation, like a version? Because that happens a lot and is really interesting. But you're saying I gotta do a shot-for-shot?

• 10:41Speaker 00

  Yeah, like you're a super fan and you want to do a shot-for-shot remake. And it can take you eight years.

• 10:49Speaker 02

  Casino. I would do casino.

• 10:51Speaker 00

  Oh, casino. Wow, that is really ambitious.

• 10:55Speaker 02

  Yeah, I don't know how we're gonna do it. I mean, it's gonna be hard.

• 10:58Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 10:58Speaker 02

  Cause I'm just gonna film it in the local, like, LA casino, like Commerce and Hollywood Park and stuff.

• 11:03Speaker 00

  Yeah. Well, that's part of it. Yeah.

• 11:06Speaker 02

  Morongo.

• 11:06Speaker 00

  Whatever you can find.

• 11:07Speaker 02

  Morongo.

• 11:08Speaker 00

  You have to use your.

• 11:09Speaker 02

  My casino is set up in Morongo.

• 11:12Speaker 00

  Oh, you know what? I think this is a great, like, add-on, which is you have to do it in your hometown.

• 11:17Speaker 02

  Oh, wow. Okay.

• 11:18Speaker 00

  And that could be LA. No, but that could be LA.

• 11:21Speaker 02

  Current, okay.

• 11:21Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 11:22Speaker 02

  That's still gonna be hard, though. That might change my... You know what? I would do, if it's in LA, I would do The Long Goodbye.

• 11:30Speaker 00

  What is The Long Goodbye? Remind me.

• 11:31Speaker 02

  It's a Raymond Chandler novel, and they made a version in, like, the 40s or 50s, and Robert Altman did his version in the 70s. It's an Elliot Gould movie. It's one of my favorite movies.

• 11:40Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 11:41Speaker 02

  It's really great.

• 11:42Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 11:42Speaker 02

  Detective movie.

• 11:43Speaker 00

  I've never seen it.

• 11:44Speaker 02

  It's great. Highly recommend.

• 11:46Speaker 00

  Highly recommend. Okay.

• 11:48Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 11:48Speaker 00

  All right, Jordan, I'm gonna put on my headphones.

• 11:50Speaker 06

  So with the change of the hometown, my hometown is Worcester, Massachusetts. My movie has to be A League of Their Own.

• 11:57Speaker 00

  Oh, that's a great one.

• 11:59Speaker 02

  That's a really good one.

• 12:00Speaker 00

  And that'd be fun to do with your friends, too.

• 12:02Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's a... Yeah, exactly.

• 12:04Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 12:04Speaker 02

  I picked Long Goodbye because it's mostly the one guy, and it seemed, like, doable.

• 12:08Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 12:09Speaker 02

  It seemed more feasible.

• 12:10Speaker 00

  This is a true filmmaker brain.

• 12:11Speaker 02

  Yeah, I was thinking logistics, yeah.

• 12:13Speaker 00

  Yeah, you are.

• 12:14Speaker 02

  I'm not really in the spirit of the fun of the game. I, yeah.

• 12:17Speaker 00

  Jenna, what about you?

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  I think I would have to do either Grease or Grease 2.

• 12:23Speaker 02

  Wow.

• 12:24Speaker 01

  Which Grease 2, as we know, because we broke it down, it opens with, like, a seven-minute dance routine.

• 12:32Speaker 00

  With a couple hundreds of people.

• 12:34Speaker 01

  So I'm not really sure how I'm accomplishing that. I wasn't thinking practically like you are, Clark.

• 12:38Speaker 02

  But it's still just people.

• 12:40Speaker 01

  It's people.

• 12:40Speaker 02

  It's not special effects.

• 12:42Speaker 01

  That's right.

• 12:43Speaker 02

  Who is the lead in Grease 2?

• 12:44Speaker 01

  Michelle Pfeiffer.

• 12:45Speaker 02

  That's what I thought. Yeah.

• 12:46Speaker 01

  Yeah. But.

• 12:48Speaker 00

  You would have to figure out how you're gonna do the car that floats away and all that business.

• 12:54Speaker 01

  We'll figure that out. That's at the end of Grease, you know? Grease 2 has the crazy, like...

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  The motorcycle thing.

• 13:00Speaker 01

  Motorcycle dream sequence and the jumping of the motorcycle and all that. Angela, what are you remaking?

• 13:06Speaker 00

  Well, I wasn't thinking with my filmmaker brain, Clark, because I would do Pride and Prejudice.

• 13:12Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 13:13Speaker 00

  Cause it's like my favorite movie.

• 13:14Speaker 01

  In Texas, would you film Pride and Prejudice in your hometown?

• 13:18Speaker 00

  In Archer City?

• 13:18Speaker 01

  In Archer City, Texas. I mean, that's a version I'd like to see.

• 13:21Speaker 00

  Well, you know, The Last Picture Show was filmed in Archer City, and so was...

• 13:25Speaker 02

  Was it really?

• 13:26Speaker 00

  Texasville. Mm-hmm.

• 13:27Speaker 02

  Wow.

• 13:28Speaker 00

  Larry McMurtry, yeah, Peter Bogdanovich was there, Cybill Shepherd.

• 13:32Speaker 02

  I got to meet Bogdanovich a handful of times and talk to him a little bit. It was so awesome, because I'm a huge fan.

• 13:38Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 13:39Speaker 02

  Does it look like The Last Picture Show still?

• 13:41Speaker 00

  Yeah, it does. Pretty much, yeah. It hasn't really changed much.

• 13:44Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 13:44Speaker 00

  Yeah. It's kinda crazy. I'll show you pictures later.

• 13:47Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 13:47Speaker 00

  So Pride and Prejudice, but I would either do it in Archer City, Texas, or the San Fernando Valley.

• 13:57Speaker 01

  I am 100% making Grease 2 in St. Louis, Missouri, my hometown.

• 14:01Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 14:01Speaker 01

  I think it will support it well, and I think I need to get all the people that I did my high school musicals with.

• 14:08Speaker 00

  Oh, that'd be fun.

• 14:09Speaker 01

  And Eric's to come and fill in the background.

• 14:12Speaker 02

  I think it'd be good for morale for the city, since they lost the Rams, you know? I think it would be kind of a good thing for the community.

• 14:18Speaker 01

  It's what they've been waiting for.

• 14:21Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's kinda the elephant in the room. I'm glad you finally are talking about it.

• 14:24Speaker 00

  Thank you. Matt, did you wanna weigh in virtually?

• 14:28Speaker 07

  Jenna, I'm right there with you with Grease.

• 14:30Speaker 00

  No way!

• 14:31Speaker 02

  I'd have to take a different one.

• 14:32Speaker 07

  I'd have to do Grease 1. I'm not as familiar as you are with 2.

• 14:36Speaker 01

  Well, I think you should do Grease, and I'll do Grease 2.

• 14:39Speaker 07

  Oh, perfect. We can see who's comes out better.

• 14:41Speaker 01

  It makes sense.

• 14:42Speaker 02

  You can shoot them both at once, like Pearl and the X or whatever.

• 14:45Speaker 00

  Yeah. All right, you guys, well, I'll see you all in eight years for our screening of these movies.

• 14:51Speaker 02

  Honestly, that's not even that crazy a timeline for an indie film.

• 14:53Speaker 01

  Oh, my gosh. Hey, listen, it's true. And we're gonna take a break, and we're gonna come back, and we're gonna talk about your film, Stranglehold.

• 14:59Speaker 02

  Stranglehold.

• 15:00Speaker 01

  Stranglehold, I'm sorry.

• 15:01Speaker 02

  It's okay.

• 15:02Speaker 01

  Your film. As soon as it came out of my mouth, I was like, I just said it wrong.

• 15:06Speaker 02

  Maybe it's better.

• 15:07Speaker 01

  No, stop. Stranghold. It does have a strange hold on me. I'm not gonna lie. It has had a strange hold on me since I watched it.

• 15:14Speaker 02

  That's what I want.

• 15:16Speaker 01

  Stranglehold, but it's true. I mean, how long did it take you to make Stranglehold?

• 15:21Speaker 02

  A long time.

• 15:22Speaker 01

  From writing on the page until now?

• 15:26Speaker 02

  Oh, I mean, since, like, 2020, because the COVID happened. And, you know, I don't know if the listeners know, COVID lasted about eight years out here in LA. And then the strikes, and then I got it off the ground again, and then the strikes happened. It were, like, 18 months long. And then we finally shot it. And then, you know, the movie's set at Christmas, so it had to come out at, like, fall minimum. It can't come out in, like, February, so we missed, like, last Christmas. So now, it's been, like, six years.

• 15:51Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 15:52Speaker 02

  So, I mean, me and the Jaws guy, remake Jaws, not Spielberg.

• 15:55Speaker 00

  Quincy, Quincy Jaws.

• 15:57Speaker 02

  Quincy Jaws. Yeah, me and Quincy Jaws are kind of on similar timelines here, sadly.

• 16:00Speaker 00

  You are.

• 16:01Speaker 02

  Yeah. The next one, I'm gonna speed up. God willing, the next one, yeah.

• 16:05Speaker 00

  Well, yeah, let's knock on wood and all the things that you don't have to deal with strikes and...

• 16:08Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, acts of God.

• 16:10Speaker 00

  Yeah, acts of God.

• 16:11Speaker 01

  All right, let's take a break. We're gonna come back. We're gonna hear more about it.

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  All right, we are back with fabulous filmmaker Clark Duke, our friend, and we're gonna talk about your movie, Stranglehold, that we both got to see.

• 18:53Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 18:53Speaker 00

  And now everyone can watch it because it's out.

• 18:56Speaker 02

  Yes, it is available everywhere. You can buy movies, VOD, and on-demand.

• 19:00Speaker 00

  So exciting. And you said it took six years, so this is like a big moment for you.

• 19:04Speaker 02

  Yeah. I mean, it shouldn't have taken six years, but yeah, between the COVID and the strikes and the, yeah, holiday delays of it all, it took a while.

• 19:11Speaker 01

  Clark, I really enjoyed this movie. It stars our office friend Jake Lacy.

• 19:16Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 19:17Speaker 01

  In a really amazing role, and he's really good in it. He plays a drunk, barely-employed guy.

• 19:26Speaker 00

  Ex-military-ish.

• 19:27Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 19:28Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 19:28Speaker 01

  I loved getting into your mind as I was watching this movie. Like, it was very fascinating to me. And this movie does a lot of twists and turns. It keeps you on your toes. I did not know who was going to, quote-unquote, win it all.

• 19:43Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 19:44Speaker 02

  Good.

• 19:44Speaker 01

  But also, Ashley Benson, she plays the female lead. She plays a stripper.

• 19:50Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 19:51Speaker 01

  She's a mom. She really needs medicine for her daughter. They don't have the money. So she's...

• 19:58Speaker 00

  She's a reluctant stripper, though. She doesn't really wanna be there.

• 20:01Speaker 02

  I mean...

• 20:02Speaker 00

  She has dreams of California.

• 20:04Speaker 02

  She has dreams, yeah, but nobody, like, you know, makes her work. I mean, the interesting stuff thematically to me is just, like, when she's watching, seeing her watch stuff on social media and how she's, like, influenced by, you know, the kinda, like, more glamorous, like, people she's seeing their Christmas on her phone.

• 20:19Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 20:20Speaker 02

  Cause that flattening out effect that, like, that the internet has had on, you know, cause I remember, like, when I was in, like, high school in Arkansas, there was still kinda, like, regional culture. And I feel like now with social media, that doesn't really exist anymore. I mean, it's really, like, more of a monoculture than ever. It's like, it's weird, cause there's some, like, it's like the Super Bowl's the only thing everybody watches still, and everything's very, like, divvied up. But there's, at the same time, it flattened everything out. So, like, it was interesting to me that, you know, these people in these rural places are still watching the same content as these, like, people in West Hollywood. And what does that do to your psyche?

• 20:54Speaker 00

  Right.

• 20:54Speaker 02

  And Christmas heightens everything. The movie's set at Christmas time, and like...

• 20:57Speaker 00

  It is, yeah.

• 20:58Speaker 02

  Yeah, Christmas makes everybody bonkers.

• 21:00Speaker 00

  Right, because it's like, you wanna make sure you get everyone the great gifts, and you decorate, and you look around, you're like, oh, our stuff is all crap.

• 21:07Speaker 02

  You're comparing your life to other people's lives more than ever at Christmas. You know, if you're lonely, it heightens that. If you're sad, it heightens that. If you're desperate, it heightens that. If you wanna rob a strip club, it heightens that.

• 21:20Speaker 01

  Which brings us to-

• 21:20Speaker 00

  I wasn't gonna say that part.

• 21:22Speaker 02

  That's not a spoiler, that's the premise of the movie.

• 21:24Speaker 00

  Okay, okay, okay.

• 21:25Speaker 01

  Yeah, well, why don't you, you'll do a better job of explaining the premise of the movie. Give it to us.

• 21:30Speaker 02

  I mean, you've basically already done it, but it's about a stripper who, at Christmas time, down on her luck, tired of her life, decides to rob the strip club she works at with the help of her former military husband, who is played by the office's Jake Lacy, who really does do just an awesome job of the movie. Like, he's so fun.

• 21:46Speaker 00

  Your cast is phenomenal. You have Justin Long, that performance was amazing. When he first came on screen, it took me a minute, and then I realized who it was.

• 21:54Speaker 01

  Same.

• 21:55Speaker 00

  And then also you have Ron Perlman, which is amazing, and Martin Fisher. I mean, I could go on and on. This cast is really good.

• 22:01Speaker 01

  Yeah, I want to shout out two of the other women in the movie that blew me away, who are Cody Kennedy and Elle King. Just great performances by all the women in this film.

• 22:10Speaker 00

  I was also rooting for the gal with the neck brace.

• 22:13Speaker 02

  She's really who I'm rooting for. That's Elle King, who, you guys know, you know, Elle King's a big country music superstar. Like, do you guys know her?

• 22:19Speaker 01

  I don't.

• 22:20Speaker 00

  I knew her name.

• 22:21Speaker 02

  She's awesome.

• 22:21Speaker 00

  Yeah, but I didn't realize she acted.

• 22:23Speaker 02

  She really has it before. I just asked her out of the blue. It just jumped out at me. It's like, I just had a feeling.

• 22:28Speaker 00

  I was really rooting for her. We also want to shout out Angela Duke as the pharmacist, because she crushed it.

• 22:33Speaker 02

  So that was all improv, by the way?

• 22:35Speaker 00

  No way.

• 22:36Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 22:37Speaker 00

  Stop it.

• 22:37Speaker 02

  That was only scripted as one line. And my mom goes, can I try something? And I go, you can do anything you want. Yeah, I'll put two cameras up and Jake will keep up with-

• 22:44Speaker 01

  Her on the phone? Her on the phone was all improv?

• 22:46Speaker 02

  Whole thing, no, that's scripted.

• 22:47Speaker 00

  Wow.

• 22:48Speaker 02

  I just said, do anything you want. I'm gonna put two cameras up, so you can talk over each other, whatever. And I was like, Jake will keep up with whatever you do.

• 22:55Speaker 01

  She takes multiple phone calls and puts people on hold.

• 22:58Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 22:59Speaker 00

  She must have had a whole vision for her character.

• 23:01Speaker 02

  She did, yeah.

• 23:02Speaker 01

  Is your mom an actress?

• 23:03Speaker 02

  Not professionally, but she is SAG-eligible now, having been in my two films.

• 23:07Speaker 00

  I feel like you have to cast your mom in every movie you make.

• 23:10Speaker 02

  Yeah, the next one, I don't know if there's a part for her, but I agree. She's also, she's also good.

• 23:15Speaker 00

  She's really good. Before I knew it was your mom, we traded messages. I was like, I love-

• 23:20Speaker 01

  We have to talk about the pharmacist lady.

• 23:21Speaker 00

  I love the pharmacist lady.

• 23:22Speaker 02

  That's great.

• 23:22Speaker 00

  And then Jenna wrote a note. Oh, it says her name's Angela Duke. I wonder if there are any relation. And then I'm like, it's his mom. Yeah.

• 23:31Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 23:31Speaker 00

  And then your brother's in the movie as well, and you co-wrote it with your brother. So what's it like working with your family members like that?

• 23:39Speaker 02

  It's nice, you know? It's interesting. I mean, the relationship with my brother has been really great, and kind of started during COVID. Like, right when COVID started, I had just rented these office spaces for us. So me and him and his friend and writing partner from college, Billington, who wrote the movie with us, just kind of started getting together every day for like, you know, a year or whatever. And just like, we banged out, like, multiple scripts. So now we kind of had this backlog of scripts, which is great. But it was good. It was like, the intensity of it and just the like, the routine of it kind of gave me a work ethic and like, a type of approach to the writing that I had not had before, of just kind of being like, workman-like and job-like about it. And nobody will be more honest with you or brutal with you than your brother.

• 24:19Speaker 00

  Right.

• 24:19Speaker 02

  Like, if it sucks, he's gonna tell you it sucks. And if it's good, he's gonna tell you it's good. And you can believe it, because he just told you you suck.

• 24:26Speaker 00

  Right, right.

• 24:27Speaker 02

  So yeah, it's been a really great, rewarding, creative partnership we've had. And yeah, he's gonna be in the next, we just, the next one we co-wrote, and he's gonna be in.

• 24:34Speaker 01

  That's so great. Now, we should say, you are not in this-

• 24:38Speaker 02

  I am not.

• 24:39Speaker 01

  -movie, but you also are.

• 24:40Speaker 00

  Your Instagram is in it.

• 24:42Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's my cameo in the films, is Jake's character DMs me on Instagram.

• 24:46Speaker 00

  Yeah, he's the real-life Clark-

• 24:48Speaker 02

  DMs the real, yeah, the meta-real-life Clark Duke.

• 24:50Speaker 01

  And he's asking for money.

• 24:52Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm. That was based on a real DM I got.

• 24:54Speaker 01

  I was gonna ask you about that. Have you ever received a DM like that?

• 24:57Speaker 02

  I have. I have received that DM. Including the angry, like, follow-up ones.

• 25:02Speaker 00

  Really?

• 25:03Speaker 02

  Yeah. This is when I just got on Instagram, like, because I never had Instagram until like, like, 2020, when I made the first movie, Arkansas, and they asked me, Lionsgate, because I'd never had any social media, because I just, I don't know, I just wasn't that interested. But they asked me to get one, so I did. And, you know, you know, you just, you get this inbox full of just like-

• 25:20Speaker 00

  A lot, a lot.

• 25:21Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's a lot. It's a lot. You get crazies, you get all kinds of stuff. You get, you know, most people are really nice.

• 25:25Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 25:26Speaker 02

  But for the most part, I think like, that's bad for you too, so I try to just avoid like, all of it. Because I think the really complimentary stuff is probably as unhealthy as the really mean stuff.

• 25:34Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 25:35Speaker 02

  But yeah, that was all, that was based on a real DM I got.

• 25:39Speaker 01

  I kept thinking that at the very end of the movie, that his phone was gonna light up, and you would have sent him like, a thousand dollars. And then, and then-

• 25:49Speaker 00

  I waited all the way to the end of the credits, Clark. I know. And then, and then after the credits, wait, after the credits, there is a phone. And I was like, and I said, Jenna, that's here. And then, but it was, he was cheating, the guy.

• 26:01Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 26:01Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 26:01Speaker 02

  My brother's character, yeah.

• 26:02Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah.

• 26:03Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 26:03Speaker 02

  That may, yeah, that, yours may be better, to be honest. I think your pitch may be better.

• 26:07Speaker 01

  Oh, well.

• 26:08Speaker 02

  There's nothing I can do about it now, but that's a good one.

• 26:10Speaker 01

  Call me next.

• 26:11Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 26:13Speaker 00

  We did, we were like, it's gonna pay off, it's gonna pay off. And Jenna was like, I don't think so. And I, and then I was like, no, there's a phone, there's a phone. We're like, trading messages.

• 26:21Speaker 02

  Well, I feel like, I mean, I feel like we closed that storyline, because that's sort of like, the final, you know, that rejection that Tim gets from Clark Duke, leaving him on red.

• 26:32Speaker 02

  Pushes him over the edge.

• 26:33Speaker 00

  I can tell. It's like, no one cares about us. Like, I don't feel seen. Yeah. Seen but not seen.

• 26:42Speaker 02

  So I feel like it would have been overkill to, but no, that would have worked. That would have worked.

• 26:46Speaker 01

  To be fair, it would have been a little bit of a cheap joke.

• 26:48Speaker 02

  I'm on the fence.

• 26:49Speaker 01

  You're on the fence about it.

• 26:50Speaker 02

  I'm 50/50. Yours may be better.

• 26:54Speaker 00

  Yeah. You know what? What would Ralph and Tim say? They'd say, go back.

• 26:59Speaker 02

  Let's reshoot, yeah.

• 27:00Speaker 00

  It's a phone in a field.

• 27:02Speaker 02

  Honestly, I shot that, that phone shot in my yard. We built a fire, wafted it, and I said, try and put it up and film that.

• 27:10Speaker 00

  Here in LA? Yeah, where did you film?

• 27:12Speaker 02

  We did that in Arkansas over Christmas. I shot a lot of stuff in the movie. I shot all the driving stuff, most of the exteriors and like, setups, like, establishing shots and-

• 27:20Speaker 00

  That opening shot, when she's driving, I was like, that's in the South.

• 27:24Speaker 02

  That's really, yeah.

• 27:24Speaker 00

  Because you know what? I saw a Dollar General.

• 27:26Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's all in Arkansas. That was, that was, I just went home at Christmas and took a camera.

• 27:30Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 27:31Speaker 02

  And my mom was driving around with me, filming out the window.

• 27:34Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 27:34Speaker 01

  That's so great.

• 27:35Speaker 00

  And then we're-

• 27:36Speaker 01

  Must get such a kick out of all this.

• 27:37Speaker 02

  I think so. I think so.

• 27:40Speaker 01

  Well, where did you film, then, like, the bulk of the film? Like, the, the strip club, for example. So much of the story happens there.

• 27:48Speaker 02

  That was-

• 27:48Speaker 01

  And you have to really destroy it. Was that a set, or was that a place?

• 27:52Speaker 02

  That was a real strip club in rural New Jersey, which, I had never been to rural New Jersey, and it's like being in the South. It's wild.

• 28:00Speaker 00

  Yeah, it's very wooded and-

• 28:02Speaker 02

  No, I had no idea. You can be like, an hour, I mean, I mean, yeah, I know like, upstate New York is like rural, but like, this felt like, yeah, it felt like the South. It was interesting.

• 28:09Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 28:10Speaker 02

  But, you know, for tax reasons, we had to go shoot in New Jersey.

• 28:13Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm. I had a question about, there is, I don't know if you call it a stunt or a gag, but there are some intestines.

• 28:21Speaker 02

  Yeah. Those are great.

• 28:23Speaker 00

  They were so gruesome. I was like, oh my god.

• 28:27Speaker 01

  That was a surprise.

• 28:28Speaker 00

  That was really well done.

• 28:30Speaker 02

  I'm not gonna lie, those surprised me. Like, the special effects makeup lady, when she showed up on those on set and showed to me, I burst out laughing, because I was like, this is so much more gruesome than I, yeah, I did not expect them to be that gruesome either. It really made me laugh.

• 28:43Speaker 00

  Well, I mean, applause for your, like, the makeup and everything.

• 28:47Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah.

• 28:48Speaker 00

  I was like, wow, I thought that, that had to have cost so much money.

• 28:52Speaker 02

  I don't think so. I think that was just like, skill and craft.

• 28:55Speaker 00

  Skill and craft.

• 28:55Speaker 02

  Yeah. But no, those, I agree, those look really good.

• 28:59Speaker 00

  So we should mention this as a rated R to our listeners, right?

• 29:02Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's for mature audiences.

• 29:04Speaker 00

  It's for mature audiences, yeah.

• 29:06Speaker 01

  Who are some of your influences as a filmmaker?

• 29:10Speaker 02

  I mean, my favorite is, like, Robert Altman, who like, did The Long Goodbye. Steven Soderbergh is probably my favorite, like, current, living filmmaker. The guy that I would most like to emulate, like, career-wise, just as far as like, just like the chances he takes and the different genres, and the way that he does everything himself, the editing. And yeah, Sean Baker, big fan, and I've been friendly with a little bit. He's a really nice guy, too. Yeah, those are probably my two favorite current guys. But all time, I would say Coen Brothers, Scorsese, Altman.

• 29:39Speaker 01

  What are you hoping people will take away from this film? I know that's a question. My, my husband's a filmmaker, and people always ask him that question. But I think when you set out to tell a story, you do hope that you're communicating something, even if the takeaway is just, I gave people 90 minutes of great entertainment and laughs. But like, where are you coming from with this movie?

• 30:00Speaker 02

  I think, like, the common thread between this movie and the, and my first movie, and I kind of didn't realize this till like, after the fact, but I think they're both kind of about, like, the state of the American dream, or like, the death of the American dream. And like, specifically what that is like for younger people in the South. Like, watching them back, it seemed, like, it struck me that like, Arkansas was very much a movie about millennials, and this feels like a movie about Gen Z. And just like, kind of their like, economic outlook, in this, this microcosm of a, a strip club. But, yeah, I mean, you know, the, the point of the movie is to me, like, the heist is in the, the action, the explosions is not the interesting part. The interesting part is, for me, the, the dialogue that you have from the characters, like Ron Perlman's character and Jake's

• 30:43Speaker 02

  character, like, kind of, like, talking about their worldviews. Because I feel like they're both kind of guys that are probably like, probably pretty similar, like, you know, like, politically, ideologically, but, but just because of the generation difference coming at it from really different places. So, I don't know if I answered your question at all.

• 31:00Speaker 01

  I think you did very much answer my question.

• 31:01Speaker 02

  You know, I also just, I, I want them, it's fun for me to make, and for my brother, to just write about, like, you know, real people and places in a place we know. Because I mean, there's really, like, besides like Billy Bob, I don't know if anybody make, that made a bunch of movies set in Arkansas, you know, or the middle of the country in general. Like, it's, it's like, it's kind of, I don't know, I think pretty fertile ground. I mean, I like being able to make something that's, that's sort of laughing with the South and not at it, too. Like, like, that's, you know, it's not, like, I'm certainly not like, glorifying it really, any of the characters in the movie, but you're also, I think, I hope, like, very sympathetic and with the characters and understanding of the character. I mean, like, I always go back to like, my North Star, and this is back to like, you're like, who are my influences? I would say The Sopranos is probably like,

• 31:46Speaker 02

  like, my biggest, like, the most influential, like, thing in like, film or TV to me. Just because, you know, you're like, always with Tony, like, no matter what he does. Like, like, I never once thought of him as like, a villain. And like, that's a really great place to attack a character from.

• 32:02Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 32:02Speaker 02

  And I try to do that. Like, I mean, for me, like, I know, like, in Stranglehold, you know, Ron Perlman's character is supposed to be the, you know, I guess the villain, or like, the antagonist or something, but he kind of makes more sense than they do. Like, from his point of view, he's way more sympathetic than they are. Like, they're robbing him, you know?

• 32:16Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 32:17Speaker 02

  So I like that kind of stuff.

• 32:19Speaker 00

  I found myself wanting him to make it.

• 32:21Speaker 02

  Yeah, me too. Good.

• 32:22Speaker 00

  You know, so I think that's how I feel about Tony Soprano, when you talk about Tony. Like, I want to believe my own ending, you know, of that series.

• 32:29Speaker 02

  Yeah, I like the complicated characters.

• 32:32Speaker 00

  Yeah, they're all really flawed. And I love what you said about filming in the middle of America, too, because there are some great filmmakers out of Texas and different places, and obviously in the South. But my favorite thing is when they show-

• 32:48Speaker 00

  That part of their life and not like a Hollywood version of it, if that makes sense.

• 32:54Speaker 01

  Yeah, totally. I love that, too. Well, listen, the movie is really fantastic. I really loved it.

• 33:00Speaker 00

  Yes, congratulations, Clark.

• 33:02Speaker 02

  Thank you.

• 33:02Speaker 00

  All right, well, why don't we take a quick break and we will be back with some The Office talk.

• 33:07Speaker 01

  Yeah, I got a few questions.

• 33:08Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 33:18Speaker 01

  Clark, do you mind, since we have you here, if we ask you a few Office questions?

• 33:21Speaker 02

  Of course.

• 33:22Speaker 01

  All right.

• 33:23Speaker 00

  Aw, yay, Clark.

• 33:24Speaker 02

  What if I was like, absolutely not?

• 33:26Speaker 00

  That would also be fine. You might not get Lynn Kay leaving a comment. Oh, there was a few people that wrote Clark and Saw.

• 33:35Speaker 02

  That's a good one.

• 33:35Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 33:36Speaker 02

  I would, so I had thought about that as a, like a production company name like years and years ago, but then remember that guy? Was it Wes Clark that ran for president like 20 years ago? He was like a retired general. Anyway, he used Clark and Saw for something.

• 33:50Speaker 00

  Damn it!

• 33:51Speaker 02

  But I mean, this, okay, but the fact that neither of you remember who he is.

• 33:54Speaker 00

  Yeah, I don't.

• 33:55Speaker 02

  This was like 20 years ago and neither of you remember who he is. I think I'm safe.

• 33:58Speaker 00

  I didn't, I don't think he, he like, he wrote in on that. I think I can bring it back. Yeah.

• 34:03Speaker 01

  All right, here's your first Office question. Would you rather go camping with Dwight or vacation with Jan?

• 34:12Speaker 02

  Oh, vacation with Jan?

• 34:16Speaker 01

  That wasn't, you don't think that would be?

• 34:17Speaker 02

  No, okay. That's easy.

• 34:20Speaker 01

  Great.

• 34:21Speaker 02

  Are we talking about Clark the character or Clark, me Clark?

• 34:24Speaker 01

  Either. Well, we know Clark.

• 34:26Speaker 02

  I think both the answers are the same. I think they're both still Jan.

• 34:29Speaker 00

  You don't think Clark regretted his trip with Jan?

• 34:32Speaker 02

  I think he was exhausted.

• 34:33Speaker 00

  He was exhausted.

• 34:34Speaker 02

  I don't know if it was regret just so much as fatigue.

• 34:38Speaker 00

  Fatigue.

• 34:38Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 34:40Speaker 01

  All right, who is more technically proficient? You or your character of Clark? For example, could you, Clark, teach someone to use PowerPoint?

• 34:51Speaker 02

  No, I could not. Character Clark is absolutely more proficient.

• 34:55Speaker 01

  I see.

• 34:55Speaker 02

  I do occasionally use Apple Keynote, which is like Apple's free fake PowerPoint that comes built in. But I'm the only person I've ever met that uses Apple Keynote and I use it like off-label. Like I make like pitch decks with it and stuff. You can do a lot with it. It's great.

• 35:13Speaker 01

  All right.

• 35:13Speaker 02

  There's nothing even to teach. Like, I mean, anybody could use this thing. It's like, I literally, I've never met another person that's like clicked this, this icon before.

• 35:21Speaker 01

  Where is it? Is it on my computer?

• 35:23Speaker 02

  It's on every Mac.

• 35:24Speaker 00

  Is it on my, my Mac?

• 35:26Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, I know what you're talking about. It's like PowerPoint, but it's not PowerPoint. Yeah, it's fake PowerPoint.

• 35:32Speaker 02

  PowerPoint, but it's, you know, you can load anything up. I also use Apple Pages, which is their fake Microsoft Word. They have all this shit on there for free. I just on, like, they have their Sam's Club, Dr. Thunder versions of every app on the...

• 35:46Speaker 01

  I gotta go to like a genius bar or something.

• 35:49Speaker 02

  This is not even a genius bar. This is like a, like a...

• 35:51Speaker 00

  You gotta go to...

• 35:52Speaker 01

  You're like, just spend an hour with your computer, Jenna. Just like, like, just take a minute.

• 35:57Speaker 02

  This is like, I don't know what the mid, like, what's between like idiot and genius? What's the word?

• 36:02Speaker 00

  Meh.

• 36:03Speaker 02

  Meh. This is the meh bar.

• 36:04Speaker 00

  It's a meh bar. Okay. We'll sort of meh explain it. Okay, we have one. In the episode, The Whale, all the men try to grow mustaches in support of Movember. Clark's mustache isn't great. Doesn't really, it's not really happening. Can you grow a mustache?

• 36:20Speaker 02

  Okay, so...

• 36:21Speaker 01

  Did they ask you if you could grow a mustache?

• 36:23Speaker 02

  They did. They did.

• 36:24Speaker 01

  Before they wrote it?

• 36:26Speaker 02

  I think so. Yeah, yeah, because Jake's was real. I think mine was fake, first of all.

• 36:31Speaker 01

  That was my question. Yeah.

• 36:33Speaker 02

  I think it was fake or at least, so here's the thing. I, I, at the time, I had never attempted to grow a mustache. So I was, my real answer was like, I don't know. Like, maybe I'd never...

• 36:43Speaker 00

  In your whole life?

• 36:44Speaker 02

  Well, I have now. Like, in, like, I ended up having one, I grew one for my first movie, Arkansas, that I was in. I had a mustache in that movie. And then after that, I kept it for a while just because I thought it was funny and because frankly, like, it was like, it's weird, but it was like a disguise. Like, I instantly went like, kind of like unrecognizable in public, which I was like, oh, this is crazy. Like, the mustache and glasses, like, children cartoon, like, works? Like, the fake mustache really works? But it did. So like, the answer is yes, I can grow a mustache, but it takes a while. Like, because, you know, they were like, you have a week or whatever, you know, to film.

• 37:20Speaker 01

  What can you do?

• 37:21Speaker 02

  What can you do in a week? Like, what I can do in a week is about what you saw in the episode, which is not much. Although it has got, now that I'm older, it is faster now.

• 37:30Speaker 00

  But you still have such a baby face, though. You do.

• 37:33Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 37:33Speaker 00

  But that's a good thing.

• 37:34Speaker 02

  I don't think I can grow a beard, but I've also never tried because it's so, I mean, this is why I'd never tried the mustache, is the in-between period is so bad. It's so awful.

• 37:43Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 37:43Speaker 02

  Like, I look like an eighth grade, like, like, it's just, it's really bad for like a month.

• 37:48Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 37:48Speaker 02

  Like, it's a rough three weeks there.

• 37:50Speaker 00

  It's like growing out your bangs. It's just gonna get really ugh for a bit.

• 37:54Speaker 02

  So that's, yeah, but I do, occasionally now I will. If I had a part or something that was appropriate, I would regrow the mustache. I kept it for years after Arkansas. But at the time, no, I could not. I couldn't grow a mustache like today in a week probably either. It probably, I would need like three weeks.

• 38:08Speaker 01

  And your memory is that they made something for you?

• 38:11Speaker 02

  Or maybe they just touched it up. Like, maybe there was like mascara on whatever sad, like, one week worth of mustache I had, like, something like that.

• 38:19Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 38:19Speaker 02

  I don't think it was like a, like a fake mustache. I think they just doctored the sad, wispy hairs.

• 38:23Speaker 01

  The sad, doctored the existing. Okay. Bliss. Oh, bliss. All right, would you pretend to be a couple to get a couples discount? The character of Clark goes with Nellie, right? Don't you guys go to like the nail salon or something and you're pretending to be a couple for couples discount? Let's say, and we're gonna get to the root of something here, like, would you, for example, pretend to be a couple with someone to get like a really cheap dinner on Valentine's Day?

• 38:54Speaker 00

  Yes!

• 38:55Speaker 01

  That's like a couples discount.

• 38:56Speaker 02

  First of all, I would never like choose to go to dinner on Valentine's Day if I didn't have to, because that's like trying to go out on New Year's Eve, like, it's amateur hour.

• 39:04Speaker 00

  Right, or going to brunch on Mother's Day. That's gonna be a shit show.

• 39:07Speaker 02

  It's gonna be so crowded. It's gonna be awful. So probably in that situation, no. I, you know, I don't think I would. I have a buddy that pretends something's wrong with him so him and his girlfriend can go to the front of the line at Universal Disneyland. And I'm not gonna name his name, but he'll hear this and he'll know. And my brother is gonna hear this and laugh his ass off because he also knows him.

• 39:27Speaker 01

  You know, my dad, he, on a family trip to Hawaii when I was young, he was body surfing and he dislocated his shoulder.

• 39:35Speaker 02

  Oh, my God.

• 39:36Speaker 01

  And...

• 39:37Speaker 02

  From boogie boarding?

• 39:38Speaker 01

  From boogie boarding. He like got slammed into the surf. And when he, we got back to St. Louis, he went to the doctor and he had to have his arm in a sling for a period of time. My dad also traveled a lot for work. And while he had his arm in the sling, he noticed that they let him board the airplane first because he needed extra time, you know, to get his bags situated. So I don't want to get it wrong, but like, I think like for years, whenever he had a business trip, he would bring the sling and he would put it on in the bathroom and so that he could board earlier.

• 40:11Speaker 02

  That's awesome.

• 40:11Speaker 00

  This is very like Larry David, like, this feels like a Curb episode.

• 40:15Speaker 01

  That's Jim Fisher for you.

• 40:16Speaker 02

  But you know what? He didn't, so it sounds like, if I'm understanding the story right, he didn't say anything. He didn't ask them to board early.

• 40:24Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 40:24Speaker 02

  He just had the sling on.

• 40:26Speaker 01

  And he walked up and he got to board early.

• 40:28Speaker 02

  Did he tell people?

• 40:28Speaker 01

  He doesn't do it anymore.

• 40:29Speaker 02

  When he, when people would ask how he broke the arm, would he say something cooler than boogie boarding? What do you?

• 40:33Speaker 01

  I don't know. I'm not sure. I haven't asked. I'll ask him.

• 40:37Speaker 02

  Would he be like, you should see the other guy? Like, nobody wanted to say boogie boarding, right?

• 40:41Speaker 00

  You should see the water that hit me hard.

• 40:44Speaker 01

  Exactly.

• 40:46Speaker 02

  I don't, I think, I don't think I would. I don't think I would pretend to be a couple for the discount.

• 40:52Speaker 01

  Would you pretend to wear a sling to board a plane early?

• 40:56Speaker 02

  I might. Flying is rough. All bets are off on, at the airport. Yeah, honestly, the airport is such a no man's land. I might do anything at the airport.

• 41:04Speaker 00

  All right, last Office question. Is there any part of you that wishes that you were on the work bus with us?

• 41:11Speaker 01

  Like, did you and Jake discuss that day, like, the next week? Did he download you on everything that happened on that bus?

• 41:17Speaker 00

  You know the lore that we call it death bus?

• 41:19Speaker 02

  I don't think I do.

• 41:21Speaker 01

  You don't know about death bus?

• 41:23Speaker 02

  I don't think so.

• 41:24Speaker 01

  Okay. You don't know that we almost died three times?

• 41:26Speaker 00

  Did something happen? Oh, my God!

• 41:29Speaker 02

  I don't think I know that.

• 41:30Speaker 01

  This is not hyperbole. We almost died three times.

• 41:33Speaker 00

  Yeah, okay.

• 41:34Speaker 02

  What, what happened?

• 41:36Speaker 00

  First of all, here's the first time.

• 41:39Speaker 00

  And poor Bryan Cranston. It's his week off from Breaking Bad. And he's like, great, I'm gonna be inside, air conditioned in an office. No, we're putting you on a bus. It's 110 degrees out. And that's what we filmed in, outside.

• 41:52Speaker 02

  I remember that. Yeah. I remember the bus. Like, I was, I don't remember everyone almost dying on the bus.

• 41:58Speaker 00

  Okay, so imagine the bus is full of desk lamps.

• 42:02Speaker 02

  Did I get off the bus at some point? Because I remember with Cranston, very specifically, he was trying to get me to do this really big, physical gag. And I just said, this is like, the lamest, most actory thing I'll say, but I was like, Clark would not do that. Like, I don't believe this. Like, I would not do this. So I remember being on the bus. I don't remember everyone almost dying.

• 42:21Speaker 01

  Well, because you leave, you stay behind and you teach Daryl PowerPoint.

• 42:26Speaker 00

  You and Creed get off the bus.

• 42:29Speaker 02

  Yes, yes, okay, okay. And then after that, you guys almost died?

• 42:32Speaker 00

  No, no, no. Okay, let's set it up. I'm just gonna say two things. We're driving down the road, a stunt driver makes a hard right. We were supposed to pretend like we're being jostled.

• 42:40Speaker 02

  They're like, everybody go to the right.

• 42:41Speaker 00

  Yeah, and it didn't work. So they're like, we're gonna put this stunt driver in, he's gonna take a hard right. He takes a hard right.

• 42:48Speaker 02

  Yeah, but you're not stunt passengers.

• 42:49Speaker 00

  And nothing's nailed down. So everything goes flying, everything.

• 42:53Speaker 01

  You were in the bus. You saw how much shit was in that bus.

• 42:56Speaker 00

  So imagine Creed being covered by a bookshelf and paper, Phyllis on the ground.

• 43:02Speaker 01

  Me on top of her.

• 43:03Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 43:03Speaker 02

  Was that real? That just happened on accident? Like, that was not planned?

• 43:06Speaker 01

  That was not planned.

• 43:07Speaker 00

  That was not planned.

• 43:08Speaker 02

  Wow, no, I did not know this.

• 43:10Speaker 00

  So there were some injuries. We had to get off, they had to redress the bus, they had to help people who got injured. Then...

• 43:16Speaker 02

  I did not know this. This is wild.

• 43:18Speaker 00

  This is the big one. Then we're on the bus, and it's hot, and they're trying to figure out how they can cool us off. They put a big tube of air coming in, great, we're getting cooled off.

• 43:29Speaker 01

  They were like, dragging an air conditioning unit behind the bus.

• 43:32Speaker 00

  They attached it.

• 43:33Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 43:33Speaker 00

  Had a tube coming in.

• 43:35Speaker 01

  Guess where the intake of that machine was? Can you guess?

• 43:38Speaker 02

  Next to the diesel engine?

• 43:39Speaker 00

  Right over, and the vent was right over Jenna's head, right? I'm in the front of the bus. Jenna's like, I smell something, something smells weird. One of the camera people gets lightheaded. Jenna's like, I smell something. We're like, no, it's nothing. And then Bryan Cranston comes in, stands on a chair, and Jenna points, and he goes, "Everyone off the bus, right now." We were getting carbon monoxide.

• 43:59Speaker 02

  Yeah, no, that really could have killed everybody.

• 44:01Speaker 01

  I know.

• 44:02Speaker 02

  Whoa.

• 44:03Speaker 00

  So anyway, were you...

• 44:04Speaker 01

  Do you kind of wish you were there?

• 44:06Speaker 02

  No, no, not at all. That sounds awful. Wow.

• 44:12Speaker 00

  We thought for sure Jake would have come, like, to the next day at work and been like, "Oh, my God." He didn't say anything.

• 44:18Speaker 02

  No.

• 44:19Speaker 00

  No. Wow.

• 44:20Speaker 02

  Maybe he's just not a big complainer.

• 44:22Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 44:26Speaker 02

  No, I'm glad I was not on this bus, though, and I had no idea. This is wild.

• 44:30Speaker 00

  Yeah, we all call it Death Bus.

• 44:32Speaker 02

  Wow.

• 44:33Speaker 00

  Yeah. Well, you guys, please go check out Clark's movie. Clark, this is so fun.

• 44:39Speaker 02

  Thank you.

• 44:39Speaker 00

  Thank you for coming.

• 44:40Speaker 02

  Of course.

• 44:41Speaker 00

  Everyone, it's really great, and it's unique, and it's a story you haven't seen, I can promise you that. And it's visually interesting and funny, and it's filled with really, really superb performances.

• 44:52Speaker 02

  Oh, thank you. Thank you. That's very important to me. That's nice to hear. And it's got a great Christmas soundtrack. So all the music in the movie is original Christmas music by Teresa Wayman of the band Warpaint, who are kind of like indie rock legends. And then L. King, who's in the movie also, is singing on Jingle Bell Rock.

• 45:10Speaker 00

  Oh, so cool.

• 45:12Speaker 02

  Yeah, and the soundtrack will be out, I believe, November 6th.

• 45:15Speaker 00

  Oh, that's fantastic.

• 45:16Speaker 02

  So pretty soon, for everybody listening, you should be able to find that on Apple and Spotify. There will be the score and the separate, the soundtrack release, which I'm gonna do, like, dialogue interstitials, like, kind of a, like, 90's soundtrack, where it's got, like, dialogue clips and then the songs. So it's sort of like, you can listen along to the movie type of thing.

• 45:31Speaker 00

  Send us that, and I'll share it when it's out for our listeners. And I would love to just wrap up with one last comment, you guys, from, "The last time you were on," this is Melanie C., who said, "I cannot wait for y'all to get fax machines and fax each other. I would also love to have a landline again."

• 45:51Speaker 01

  We never did that.

• 45:52Speaker 00

  We never got fax machines.

• 45:53Speaker 02

  I have a landline.

• 45:55Speaker 01

  Well, I have a landline, we discussed.

• 45:56Speaker 02

  Yeah. I still have it.

• 45:58Speaker 01

  Which is why we were gonna get our fax machines and hook them up to our landlines.

• 46:02Speaker 02

  We can still do it.

• 46:03Speaker 00

  We still can.

• 46:04Speaker 02

  I'm not getting rid of it.

• 46:05Speaker 01

  Same.

• 46:06Speaker 02

  I'm going down with the landline ship. Do they still make faxes? Like, some, I mean, like, doctors still use them, I think, right?

• 46:14Speaker 00

  Doctors' offices?

• 46:15Speaker 02

  Yeah, I feel like they're the last. So they must, so someone makes them. There's a, you know, I gotta go to Staples after this. I'll text you and let you know.

• 46:22Speaker 00

  Scope it out. See if you see any fax machines.

• 46:23Speaker 02

  I'll see what the inventory's like.

• 46:24Speaker 01

  I want to throw something out there. This is just part of being a good prepper with our landlines. Do you have a wheelbarrow?

• 46:33Speaker 02

  I don't.

• 46:34Speaker 01

  You should get one.

• 46:35Speaker 00

  Why?

• 46:36Speaker 02

  I have a shovel.

• 46:38Speaker 01

  A shovel is good, but I think you could use a wheelbarrow. I was reading this book, it's called The Wall, and it's about a woman who gets stuck behind an invisible wall, and she only has herself, a cow, a dog, and a cat. It's great. It's this old novel. It's really, really good. And there's only so much farming she can try to do for her own survival, and like, moving of hay to feed her cow. She has to drag it all, because she doesn't have a wheelbarrow. And it occurred to me, a wagon or a wheelbarrow in End of Times would be possibly very helpful. Just something to think about. So we'll put it out there.

• 47:11Speaker 00

  I'm just gonna piggyback on that and say, do a wagon, not a wheelbarrow. I don't know when the last time you pushed a wheelbarrow, but I did recently on our farm, and they fucking suck. Because if they get, like, heavy on one side or the other, then you're, like, wobbling, and it's just a real pain in the ass.

• 47:27Speaker 02

  It's a weird design.

• 47:28Speaker 00

  I hated it.

• 47:28Speaker 01

  So maybe wagon, then.

• 47:30Speaker 02

  Do they make, do they make a, like, a two-wheeled wheelbarrow? Like, with two on the front? Like...

• 47:35Speaker 00

  Why haven't they?

• 47:36Speaker 02

  Like, why does it have the one wheel?

• 47:38Speaker 00

  Why it doesn't?

• 47:39Speaker 02

  There's, like, construction worker listeners right now, they're just yelling at the...

• 47:42Speaker 00

  Better just yelling at us. I mean, it is, it is easy with the two arms to dump, you know? The wheelbarrow...

• 47:48Speaker 01

  The single wheel?

• 47:49Speaker 00

  The single wheel is easy to dump things, but I found it to push really annoying.

• 47:54Speaker 01

  But you can also pull it behind you.

• 47:56Speaker 00

  Yeah, but it's not great.

• 47:57Speaker 02

  Who's doing that?

• 47:58Speaker 00

  No one. No one. You pull a wheelbarrow. Oh, wait, there's a two-wheel. Jordan found a two-wheel wheelbarrow.

• 48:05Speaker 02

  There you go.

• 48:06Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 48:06Speaker 02

  That looks like a way better design.

• 48:07Speaker 00

  Okay, so don't use ye olde wheelbarrow, use the new modern one.

• 48:11Speaker 02

  I don't really have, I don't have a big enough garage for that thing. That looks, that looks like it takes, like, a big footprint. That's like the size of, like, a motorcycle.

• 48:18Speaker 00

  You don't have time for that.

• 48:20Speaker 02

  Not yet. I gotta get a bigger house. All, my biggest, my bigger takeaway from this is I gotta make more money.

• 48:25Speaker 00

  You gotta make more money.

• 48:26Speaker 02

  I gotta get a bigger house.

• 48:27Speaker 00

  You know what? That's, and when you go on a talk show someday, and you're like, "Oh, do you want [bleep] money?" Say, "No, I want wheelbarrow money. That's what I want."

• 48:34Speaker 02

  Filled with cash.

• 48:35Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's it. Clark, we love you so much.

• 48:38Speaker 02

  I love you, guys.

• 48:39Speaker 00

  Thanks for being here.

• 48:40Speaker 01

  Thanks, Clark.

• 48:43Speaker 00

  Well, thank you again to Clark Duke for coming back on Office Ladies. That was so fun.

• 48:48Speaker 01

  So fun. I love him.

• 48:50Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 48:50Speaker 01

  Everyone, you can check out his new movie, Stranglehold, on digital and video on demand as of October 2nd. So it is out.

• 48:57Speaker 00

  It's out. And Clark's movie also has an Instagram, so I'll put that in our stories. It has the trailer and links to where you can watch it. Lastly, huge shout out to Quincy Jaws and the childhood best friends who loved the movie so much, they decided to all chip in and remake it in their hometown. I'll share a link to their website as well.

• 49:17Speaker 01

  All right, everyone, thanks for listening.

• 49:19Speaker 00

  See you next week.

• 49:24Speaker 01

  Thank you for listening to Office Ladies.

• 49:26Speaker 00

  Office Ladies is a presentation of Odyssey and is produced by Jenna Fisher and Angela Kinsey.

• 49:31Speaker 01

  Our senior producer is Matt Beagle, and our audio engineer is Sam Kiefer.

• 49:36Speaker 00

  Odyssey's executive producer is Leah Reese Dennis.

• 49:39Speaker 01

  Office Ladies was mixed and mastered by Bill Schultz.

• 49:42Speaker 00

  Our theme song is Rubber Tree by Creed Bratton.