Bobby Lee and Nimrods

This week on Office Ladies 6.0, Jenna & Angela are joined by comedian Bobby Lee! The gang celebrates the release of Bobby’s new movie, Nimrods, before diving into Jenna and Bobby’s on-set memories from their TV show Splitting Up Together, and revisiting Bobby’s early L. A days working on MAD TV. It’s a funny and thoughtful conversation about comedy, creativity, and the messy, meaningful parts of life. So hop in the van, buckle up and go see Bobby, AND Jenna and Angela in Nimrods, in theatres everywhere August 14th! Office Ladies Website - Submit a fan question for Around the Town, Chit Chat, and Second Drink favorite moment:https://officeladies.com/submitaquestion Follow Us on Instagram:OfficeLadiesPod https://www.instagram.com/officeladiespod/ Follow Us on YouTube https://youtube.com/@officeladiespod?si=D0oKJwFJuK9txzFM Follow Us on TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@officeladiespod?_t=ZT-8y1gqTrJyOs&_r=1

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  I'm Jenna Fisher.

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  And I'm Angela Kinsey.

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  We were on The Office together.

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  And we're best friends.

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  And now we're doing the ultimate Office Lovers podcast just for you. Each week, we will dive deeper into the world of The Office with exclusive interviews, behind the scenes details, and lots of BFF stories. We're the Office Lady 6.0.

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  Hello.

• 0:26Speaker 01

  Hi.

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  So, lady, you know that the day that this podcast airs.

• 0:30Speaker 01

  Yeah.

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  We are going to be walking the Nimrods red carpet.

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  Oh, my gosh.

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  It's the day of the premiere.

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  Today?

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  Today.

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  When everyone hears this, that's what we'll be doing.

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  That evening.

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  Oh, my gosh.

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  Followed by a big ol' party.

• 0:44Speaker 01

  Wah!

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  It's gonna be fun.

• 0:46Speaker 01

  I haven't done one of those in a long time.

• 0:48Speaker 00

  Me either, and I'm actually kind of excited.

• 0:51Speaker 01

  Oh, my gosh, I never remember how to stand, where to put my hand. I have to practice.

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  Let's practice.

• 0:57Speaker 01

  Okay.

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  We'll do what we do, because you have to do this. You have to put on your outfit.

• 1:02Speaker 01

  Yeah.

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  And you have to have someone take pictures of you.

• 1:04Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:05Speaker 00

  In different poses. And then what I do is I pick the one very good one, and that's the only way I'll stand. It doesn't matter if they yell at me. It doesn't matter if they say, "over the shoulder." I only know this one way to stand. That's it.

• 1:17Speaker 01

  I literally, the minute I get on a red carpet, completely forget all the things I practiced. And then I stand like an idiot.

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  I know, same.

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  Okay, well, maybe there's a learning curve. Who knows? But before we're at the Nimrods premiere on the red carpet, we have a really special episode for you guys to listen to today. In the studio with us is hilarious comedian and actor Bobby Lee. So fun.

• 1:41Speaker 00

  Yes.

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  And Jenna, you did a television show with Bobby.

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  I did, yes. We did two seasons of the ABC show, Splitting Up Together.

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  And we talk a little bit about that today.

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  We do. We hash a few things out from that time.

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  You did. But you guys, today, as we're getting ready to walk that premiere red carpet for Nimrods, we are going to be talking all about it, because you guys get to see it out in theaters this Friday, August 14.

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  Yeah, you guys, I am so, so excited about this movie. Okay, here's what it's about. This movie stars Mason Tames as Tommy, and he gets a phone call inviting his teen punk band to open for Green Day on New Year's Eve.

• 2:21Speaker 01

  Amazing.

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  Amazing. Unfortunately, he does not realize that this is actually an elaborate prank.

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  Mm-hmm.

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  So, believing that his life is about to change, he sets out on a road trip with his bandmates, who are played by Kyler Kaufman and Ryan Faust. And y'all, this movie is produced with Green Day, and Green Day was part of writing the story.

• 2:43Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's sort of based loosely on their early days as a band.

• 2:46Speaker 00

  Yes, the stuff that happens to these kids in the movie on their way to Los Angeles to quote unquote, "open for Green Day," was inspired by Green Day's early days of touring in a van together before their breakout record, Dookie. So, like, pre-Dookie, these are the things that happened to Green Day. The movie was written and also directed by my husband, Lee Kirk.

• 3:08Speaker 01

  And Jenna, Lee spent hours with Billy Joe and the band, right? Developing the stories and everything?

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  Yes, it started because Billy Joe called Lee and said, "I would really like to do a Green Day movie." They had collaborated before. So, yes, Lee interviewed the band, and then he weaved their stories into the script. So, I was talking to Trey Cool, the drummer of Green Day. I was just talking to him. It's not a big deal.

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  I know, I know.

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  I talked to Mike.

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  I know, I know, lady. I know how much you're geeking out.

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  But I was talking to Trey, and he called the movie "historical fiction," which I thought was a really good description, because it's not a biopic. But there's a lot of things in the movie that are from their lives. Like, for example, in the movie, the character Fred, played by Kyler Kaufman, has this puppet that he takes on the road named Gravy. And Gravy does all these bad puns, and he like drives the other guys nuts. And in the early days, Mike had a puppet named Gravy.

• 4:09Speaker 01

  Oh.

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  Mm-hmm. And also, if you are a super big Green Day fan, you're gonna see an appearance by Sleepy. And that's all I'm gonna say. Green Day fans will know who Sleepy is.

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  And then, of course, the movie is also just full of fantastic Green Day songs.

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  Yes, and Lee got to choose songs from the entire Green Day catalog. They said, "whatever song you want." The soundtrack for this movie is "Sick." That's what the kids say.

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  Are you being hip?

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  I learned that on the movie. They call it "Sick."

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  Okay.

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  But, everyone, it is really such a fun movie. It's multi-generational. The young cast is incredible. I mentioned Mason, Kyler, and Ryan, but it also stars McKenna Grace, Ignacio Diaz-Silverio, and Keen Ruffalo. And then, you've also got Fred Armisen, Sean Gunn, me, Angela, and our guest today, Bobby Lee, who plays Otis, the security guard.

• 5:02Speaker 01

  What a lineup.

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  Yeah.

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  I mean, what a group. And listen, you guys, Bobby is so funny in the movie, and I really loved our interview with him. I think you guys are gonna enjoy it. It has some twists and turns I was not expecting.

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  Same. I mean, we do some real sharing.

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  We do, and some real laughing.

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  Well, listen, before we get to our amazing interview with Bobby Lee, we do have a fan chit chat question. This is from Brianna R. in St. Michael's, Maryland, who said, "Hello, Office ladies. My husband and I are considering quitting our day jobs and opening our own business. I'm a little nervous about mixing my home life with my work life. Sometimes it's nice to have a separate space away from your significant other, and while I love my husband to pieces, I worry a little bit about us working together and being together all the time, and then also being mom and dad. Since you have both worked with your husbands professionally, I wondered if you would be willing to share a little about how that worked for you.

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  P.S.," and I loved this, "I couldn't figure out how to upload an audio file, but I hope you will still pick this question. I hope you won't find it too personal to share. Love the podcast."

• 6:13Speaker 01

  Oh, Brianna, I wouldn't know how to do the audio file either, so no worries there. This was such a thoughtful question.

• 6:21Speaker 00

  Yeah, I mean, first of all, it's a big thing to just pivot in life and start your own business. Clearly, you have some day job, and you're like, "I'm gonna do a different thing." But then also, to take that on with your significant other.

• 6:36Speaker 01

  Yeah.

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  You know? This is gonna be what you guys are doing, and I can relate, Angela, as I'm sure you can.

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  Yeah, I mean, we've both been in business with our husbands.

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  We have. I mean, it's how I met and fell in love with my husband, was doing a film. And since then, we did Ashland Avenue, the play, and now Nimrods. I love working with my husband. We work great together. It's wonderful. He's one of my favorite people to create with. I admire him and respect him as an artist, and he feels the same. And I think if you have that mutual respect with your partner, then I think you can be in business together.

• 7:17Speaker 01

  Yeah, I agree. And I also think something that works well for Josh and I, which I also think works well with me and you, Jenna, is that we both have different things we're good at. And I'm so thankful for that, because when Josh and I did all of the baking stuff and our YouTube baking show, he's just so great at baking and cooking and the recipes and curating them. And I'm sort of like color commentary, you know? And the two of us each bring our own thing, and I so appreciate what he brought, and he was appreciative of what I brought. So, it was easy to work together because of that.

• 7:53Speaker 00

  Well, I'm glad you brought up us, Angela, because I thought of us going into business together as best friends when I saw Brianna's question, because I would say that the one thing, and this is true when I'm doing a project with Lee, and it's true with our best friendship, is that the one pitfall to being in business with your significant other or best friend is where suddenly you forget to have the other conversations.

• 8:20Speaker 01

  Yes, that is so true, because...

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  Because you're only talking about work.

• 8:25Speaker 01

  Yeah, and you want to make sure you're still a couple, and you still have that, all the things that make you a couple, you know, not a business partner.

• 8:33Speaker 00

  Right.

• 8:33Speaker 01

  And so, when we were really in the middle of our cookbook, and all of our conversations were about the cookbook, I remember us being like, both, at the same time, like, "we need to go away for the weekend. We need to just go stay at a little bed and breakfast, and go for a hike, and go on a date night, and just not talk work," you know? Because that's what feeds the partnership, is everything you do outside of the business is what makes you want to do the business together. Does that make sense?

• 9:03Speaker 00

  Yes, because we do that as best friends, and you're really good at that, Angela. You'll say, "I want to have a conversation, and we are not allowed to talk about work."

• 9:11Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 9:12Speaker 00

  Like, period. Best friend stories only.

• 9:15Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 9:15Speaker 00

  Domestic life stories only.

• 9:18Speaker 01

  You said it to me just this morning, because we trade messages every day. You guys know that, right? We leave each other voice notes, and especially when we're both busy running errands, you know? And I love nothing more to see that I have a voice note from you, but you said this morning, because I had left you one, and I was like...

• 9:35Speaker 00

  You were like, "is this boring? This is so stupid."

• 9:37Speaker 01

  "This is so boring. This is the lamest message." And you were like, "Ang," I loved it. It was slice of life.

• 9:43Speaker 00

  I love slice of life.

• 9:44Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's important to keep that in the relationship, Brianna. So, I guess that's our advice, is find out what strengths you each have, respect those separate things, learn how to work with them, and then also still make time for each other as husband and wife.

• 10:00Speaker 00

  I think that's great advice. I mean, I don't know what it is you're planning to do, but if you do take that leap, I wish you all the success.

• 10:08Speaker 01

  Yeah, just all the good things coming your way.

• 10:12Speaker 00

  All right, well, listen, why don't we take a break, and then we are gonna be back with Bobby Lee.

• 10:26Speaker 02

  We already started, right?

• 10:27Speaker 01

  Yeah, we're in.

• 10:27Speaker 02

  Yeah, we're in.

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  We're recording.

• 10:29Speaker 02

  Can I do my own self-intro? Or do you want to do one?

• 10:31Speaker 00

  Yeah, well, you want to do it?

• 10:32Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 10:32Speaker 02

  Yeah.

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  I'm a comedian, sometimes actor, and I'm Bobby Lee.

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  Hi, Bobby.

• 10:40Speaker 00

  Bobby Lee.

• 10:41Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah. And how we know each other is we did a sitcom together.

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  Splitting up together.

• 10:46Speaker 02

  Splitting up together. And I want to apologize. I don't know if I ever apologized to you for not showing up that morning.

• 10:52Speaker 01

  Which morning did you not show up?

• 10:54Speaker 02

  Remember that one morning that I slept in?

• 10:57Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah. Oh, my God, I do now.

• 11:01Speaker 02

  Yeah, so I woke up, Angela.

• 11:03Speaker 01

  Yeah. What was it? Wait, can I ask what your call time was?

• 11:07Speaker 02

  Like six in the morning.

• 11:07Speaker 01

  Okay, so you had an early call time.

• 11:09Speaker 02

  So it's now 10:30.

• 11:11Speaker 01

  Uh-oh.

• 11:12Speaker 02

  Okay, and I'm in my house.

• 11:14Speaker 01

  Yeah.

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  Sleeping.

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  I remember. Did someone come knock on your door?

• 11:17Speaker 02

  They entered my room, my house.

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  So they came into your house?

• 11:19Speaker 02

  Yes.

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  That's what I thought.

• 11:21Speaker 02

  Yeah, and then I felt somebody like roaming around the living room.

• 11:24Speaker 01

  Oh, that's creepy.

• 11:25Speaker 02

  It's creepy, yeah. And I come out and I realize as soon as I see the person that, what time is it? And the panic of it.

• 11:34Speaker 01

  Oh, no.

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  Who did they send?

• 11:36Speaker 02

  Like a P A or something.

• 11:37Speaker 00

  Like a P A? I feel like I remember who they sent.

• 11:39Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 11:39Speaker 00

  I remember the conversation on set.

• 11:41Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 11:42Speaker 00

  It was like.

• 11:42Speaker 02

  So they shot your coverage first?

• 11:45Speaker 00

  Was it a scene with me?

• 11:46Speaker 02

  Yeah, it was you. You were waiting. You were doing all your coverage.

• 11:49Speaker 00

  I was?

• 11:50Speaker 02

  Yeah, and I came in with my pajamas and was freaking out. I was freaking out.

• 11:57Speaker 01

  That kind of panic is just right to your core.

• 11:59Speaker 02

  Has that ever happened to you?

• 12:01Speaker 01

  I mean, I've woken up late. Actually, the time it happened to me, stakes were a little bit lower because it was when I was an operator at 1-800-DENTIST.

• 12:10Speaker 01

  And I had that 6:00 AM shift and I overslept.

• 12:14Speaker 02

  Yeah. Well, how old were you?

• 12:15Speaker 01

  In my twenties, like around, probably 26. And the guy called me who was managing the call center. And I woke up out of this dead sleep and my home phone rang and I was like, hello? And he was like, Angela, you are two hours late for your shift. And I was like, yeah, I'm gonna go back to sleep.

• 12:36Speaker 00

  You went back to sleep?

• 12:37Speaker 02

  You got fired?

• 12:38Speaker 01

  No, you would think. I did not get fired. I was like, okay, I'm coming.

• 12:41Speaker 02

  What's an operator?

• 12:43Speaker 01

  An operator at 1-800-DENTIST?

• 12:44Speaker 02

  Yeah, so I call.

• 12:46Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 12:46Speaker 02

  Ring, ring.

• 12:47Speaker 01

  1-800-DENTIST, this is Angela. Do you need a checkup and cleaning today? Or do you have a specific dental problem?

• 12:52Speaker 02

  Yeah, all my teeth hurt.

• 12:54Speaker 01

  Okay, well, you know what? We're gonna get you in to see someone that can help you with that.

• 12:57Speaker 02

  Oh, so that's what you do?

• 12:58Speaker 01

  Do you have a PPO or an HMO?

• 13:00Speaker 02

  We'll keep going. We're gonna keep going?

• 13:03Speaker 02

  Cash, I'm gonna pay cash.

• 13:04Speaker 00

  Oh, okay.

• 13:05Speaker 02

  Yeah, I'm gonna pay cash.

• 13:06Speaker 01

  Okay, well, there's several dentists who will take you if you're paying cash. Yeah.

• 13:11Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 13:11Speaker 01

  So I overslept and then he told me you overslept. And then I was like, yes, I did.

• 13:19Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 13:19Speaker 01

  And then I did get up and go in, but I was like, I'm just asleep, just a little bit more.

• 13:23Speaker 02

  Yeah, you need that extra. Yeah, go ahead.

• 13:26Speaker 00

  What happened when you got to set? What I remember is us going from being like, kind of like annoyed, like, oh, he's late. But you were not late. You weren't a late person. You generally were very punctual and you knew your shit.

• 13:40Speaker 02

  Yes!

• 13:40Speaker 00

  Right, so you were very punctual today.

• 13:43Speaker 02

  Yeah, I'm punctual.

• 13:44Speaker 00

  You were 10 minutes early.

• 13:45Speaker 02

  I'm a punctual person.

• 13:46Speaker 00

  This is what I mean.

• 13:46Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 13:47Speaker 00

  Like, we're on set and it's like, by 6:30, we actually are worried. Like, we've moved from just like.

• 13:54Speaker 02

  Now it's 10:30.

• 13:56Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 13:56Speaker 00

  And we're like, he.

• 13:57Speaker 02

  I could have died.

• 13:58Speaker 00

  We were concerned.

• 14:00Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 14:01Speaker 00

  And so there was like this great relief when the P A was like, he's okay. He's coming. He just overslept. We were like, ugh.

• 14:09Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 14:10Speaker 00

  We were like worried for you.

• 14:11Speaker 02

  But what was scary is at the end of the night.

• 14:14Speaker 00

  What happened?

• 14:14Speaker 02

  The showrunner came up to me.

• 14:16Speaker 01

  Oh, did you get like a talking to?

• 14:18Speaker 02

  And she just, she walked this way and I was sitting down.

• 14:21Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 14:21Speaker 02

  And she put her hand on my shoulder.

• 14:23Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 14:24Speaker 02

  And she goes, don't ever do that again.

• 14:26Speaker 01

  Oh, my gosh.

• 14:28Speaker 02

  And I was scared.

• 14:30Speaker 01

  I would have been scared.

• 14:32Speaker 02

  Were you would have scared?

• 14:32Speaker 01

  I would have been scared.

• 14:33Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 14:34Speaker 00

  I want to talk about something else from splitting up together.

• 14:37Speaker 02

  Okay, go ahead.

• 14:38Speaker 00

  You talked about this time you were late.

• 14:40Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 14:40Speaker 00

  Should we talk about?

• 14:41Speaker 02

  Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

• 14:42Speaker 00

  Should we discuss?

• 14:44Speaker 02

  No, because I'll tell you why.

• 14:46Speaker 00

  Why?

• 14:47Speaker 02

  I think I know what you're getting at.

• 14:48Speaker 00

  You've talked about it on your podcast.

• 14:51Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's fine.

• 14:52Speaker 00

  So now you're here.

• 14:54Speaker 02

  Okay, what you're saying, can I, may I say it or no?

• 14:56Speaker 00

  Yes, well, you already have talked about it and I just wanted to know.

• 14:59Speaker 02

  Yeah, but not in front of you.

• 15:00Speaker 00

  You want to talk about with.

• 15:00Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, I don't want to talk about it with you.

• 15:03Speaker 01

  Too late, she's been tagged in all the reels.

• 15:06Speaker 02

  Okay, so here's the thing, you know, I don't know if people know about shooting things, but there's coverage. Is that what you're talking about?

• 15:13Speaker 01

  Like on a film set.

• 15:14Speaker 00

  I'm talking about the phone incident.

• 15:14Speaker 02

  Yeah, so it's on you, the camera, right?

• 15:17Speaker 01

  So.

• 15:18Speaker 02

  And I'm doing lines with, yeah, go ahead, Angela.

• 15:20Speaker 01

  So let's set it up. We're on the set of ABC's Splitting Up Together.

• 15:24Speaker 00

  I'll set the scene for you. It's like the Christmas episode. If I remember correctly, we're like dressed in like Christmas onesies. It's a big group scene. Everyone's in it. Like, all the kids are in it, you're in it, Oliver's in it, Lindsay, Diane, everybody's in this, right? Am I remembering the right scene?

• 15:40Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 15:40Speaker 00

  And it's in the living room, there's a Christmas tree.

• 15:43Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 15:44Speaker 00

  And I have to stand up in front of the tree and face all of you guys and give this like, kind of like emotional.

• 15:50Speaker 02

  And you did a great job.

• 15:51Speaker 00

  Speech. Like, I had to well up with tears a little bit and then hold them back. It was like a whole thing, right?

• 15:56Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 15:57Speaker 00

  So there's one camera. We do your coverage where the camera's on all of y'all, getting your lines.

• 16:04Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 16:04Speaker 00

  And I'm off camera and I'm giving my speech.

• 16:08Speaker 02

  Yes, very good job.

• 16:09Speaker 00

  Great. Camera comes around, now it's shooting me.

• 16:13Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 16:13Speaker 00

  And you guys are all off camera.

• 16:16Speaker 02

  Sure.

• 16:16Speaker 00

  But you're still there because you have lines that you have to say to me while I'm giving my emotional speech. You were memorized. You were and on time.

• 16:25Speaker 02

  Yeah, do I have to lock eyes with you?

• 16:27Speaker 00

  What do you think?

• 16:28Speaker 02

  No.

• 16:29Speaker 00

  You don't what?

• 16:30Speaker 02

  No, no, I don't think.

• 16:31Speaker 00

  What?

• 16:31Speaker 02

  I don't think.

• 16:32Speaker 00

  So.

• 16:33Speaker 02

  Because you're a professional actor. No, just stop.

• 16:36Speaker 00

  Ah.

• 16:37Speaker 02

  I'm sorry for even saying that. This is your podcast. You can keep going if you want.

• 16:40Speaker 00

  Well, I'm just gonna say, I want to paint a picture for people. So it's time for my coverage and I'm going through the scene. Take one. I'm up there, I'm like scanning the room. Everyone's looking at me.

• 16:51Speaker 02

  Sure.

• 16:51Speaker 00

  Everyone, across the children, all the people, they're all looking me in the eyes, giving me my lines that they have to say. And then I get to you, Bobby.

• 17:00Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 17:00Speaker 00

  And you are looking down, like kind of.

• 17:02Speaker 02

  Playing Candy Crush.

• 17:03Speaker 00

  Into your lap. But I don't know that. You just, you're looking down and I'm like, that's odd.

• 17:08Speaker 02

  No, it's not. I'm at 896 level and I want to get 897.

• 17:13Speaker 00

  Take two.

• 17:13Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 17:14Speaker 00

  Scans again. I get to you. Now I can see you're looking at a phone. And my first thought was, oh, gosh.

• 17:21Speaker 02

  He doesn't know his lines.

• 17:22Speaker 00

  No, I thought, oh, my gosh, I hope everything's okay.

• 17:25Speaker 02

  Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

• 17:27Speaker 00

  Like a text.

• 17:28Speaker 02

  Okay, can I defend myself?

• 17:29Speaker 00

  Like a text, like, oh, no, you must have gotten a text.

• 17:31Speaker 02

  Angela, may I?

• 17:32Speaker 00

  That's like super important.

• 17:33Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 17:34Speaker 00

  Because why else would you be on your phone in the middle of a taping?

• 17:38Speaker 02

  Okay, it's a group shot.

• 17:40Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 17:40Speaker 02

  It's a wide.

• 17:41Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 17:41Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 17:42Speaker 02

  Okay. Maybe they're punching in, but I don't know. But from what I remember, it's a wide, so why would you, let me focus on Oliver.

• 17:50Speaker 00

  You have to talk to me. I am looking, and so it's very distracting because I'm like, what's happening with, is Bobby okay? Has someone contacted him?

• 17:59Speaker 02

  But you were mad.

• 17:59Speaker 00

  What's happening?

• 18:00Speaker 02

  I remember you being mad.

• 18:01Speaker 00

  Well, well. By take four or five, when I realized what I thought is that you were on Instagram. I thought you were scrolling Instagram. And so finally I go, Bobby?

• 18:10Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 18:10Speaker 00

  What the actual fuck, dude?

• 18:12Speaker 02

  I apologize.

• 18:12Speaker 00

  What is happening?

• 18:13Speaker 02

  That was bad.

• 18:14Speaker 00

  What is happening?

• 18:15Speaker 02

  Angela, back me up.

• 18:16Speaker 01

  I don't think I can.

• 18:19Speaker 02

  You can?

• 18:19Speaker 01

  Here's the thing.

• 18:20Speaker 02

  You know what sucks? And that sucks.

• 18:21Speaker 01

  You're a scene partner, right? So it's like, what I give you, you give me back.

• 18:26Speaker 02

  So if you and I were doing a scene solo?

• 18:29Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 18:29Speaker 02

  You would get my attention.

• 18:30Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 18:31Speaker 02

  Right? But in a group shot? Yes, it does. In a group shot? Come on.

• 18:36Speaker 01

  Well, I think you have to know too, we did nine years of group scenes, nine years of conference rooms, nine years of Steve Carell being up in front of everyone and us just looking at him.

• 18:47Speaker 02

  So Steve would do, even in his reverse, give you 100%.

• 18:51Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 18:52Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 18:52Speaker 02

  Well, I don't, see, I'm learning.

• 18:54Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, there is a learning.

• 18:56Speaker 02

  I mean, this.

• 18:57Speaker 01

  But there is a learning curve.

• 18:58Speaker 02

  There's so much to learn.

• 18:59Speaker 01

  There is a learning curve.

• 19:00Speaker 02

  Yeah. But you know, I was trying to defend myself. I apologize. I still, the reason why I brought it up on my pod is because I remember the shame of it.

• 19:10Speaker 00

  Oh, well, you should release yourself of that. I mean, you were forgiven moments after it happened.

• 19:15Speaker 02

  Yeah, I wish that Angela took my side every once in a while. Yeah, anyway, it's comedy. Let's talk about comedy. Let's talk about, you want to talk about the movie?

• 19:23Speaker 00

  Let's talk about Nimrods.

• 19:24Speaker 02

  Let's talk about Nimrods.

• 19:26Speaker 01

  Let's talk about Nimrods.

• 19:27Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 19:27Speaker 01

  First of all, I have to say one thing.

• 19:29Speaker 02

  You're both great in it.

• 19:30Speaker 01

  Oh, well, you're hilarious in it, but Jenna told me, like, from the early days, like when we did a table read of it, she was like, Lee was like, I want Bobby. And you were like, Bobby's got to be in this. Like, that's how much of an impression you made on her in Splitting Up Together and Lee.

• 19:48Speaker 00

  No, truly. It's true. I'm giving you a real compliment.

• 19:52Speaker 02

  Really?

• 19:52Speaker 00

  Yes, yes.

• 19:53Speaker 02

  Playing Candy Crush?

• 19:55Speaker 01

  No.

• 19:55Speaker 02

  Angela?

• 19:56Speaker 01

  You are forgiven for that.

• 19:57Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 19:58Speaker 01

  That is behind you.

• 19:59Speaker 02

  All right, now it is.

• 20:00Speaker 01

  Yes, but now we also.

• 20:01Speaker 02

  I've been thinking about it since.

• 20:02Speaker 00

  Clearly, I wasn't holding anything against you because.

• 20:05Speaker 02

  Yeah, but I didn't want to bring it up on set.

• 20:08Speaker 00

  I mean.

• 20:08Speaker 02

  Yeah. Hey, I want to apologize for.

• 20:11Speaker 01

  No, you know what you should have done is you should have got out Candy Crush.

• 20:16Speaker 01

  In one take. That would have been so good.

• 20:18Speaker 02

  We didn't have, did we have a scene?

• 20:19Speaker 00

  No.

• 20:20Speaker 02

  Yeah, we didn't have a scene.

• 20:21Speaker 00

  None of it. We're all three in this movie, but not in any scenes together.

• 20:25Speaker 01

  I know.

• 20:25Speaker 02

  Uh, can I be honest with you?

• 20:26Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 20:27Speaker 02

  Yeah, I saw the movie up until I came up on screen.

• 20:30Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 20:30Speaker 01

  And then you, do you not like to watch yourself?

• 20:32Speaker 02

  I don't, so I stopped watching.

• 20:33Speaker 00

  You're so funny in it.

• 20:34Speaker 02

  I stopped.

• 20:35Speaker 00

  Bobby, you have a line in this movie that my kids.

• 20:40Speaker 02

  What is the line?

• 20:41Speaker 01

  Yeah, he did.

• 20:42Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah, when you mock him.

• 20:43Speaker 02

  All right.

• 20:44Speaker 00

  You mock, um, one of the kids.

• 20:46Speaker 02

  Huberty is hard.

• 20:47Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 20:47Speaker 01

  Huberty is hard. Did you improvise that?

• 20:49Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 20:49Speaker 00

  He did.

• 20:50Speaker 01

  That's really funny.

• 20:50Speaker 00

  And then you improvise, yeah, he did.

• 20:53Speaker 02

  Yeah, because he had such a squeaky voice.

• 20:55Speaker 00

  He did.

• 20:55Speaker 02

  I want to say something about the movie. It feels lived in and real.

• 21:00Speaker 00

  Oh, that's a nice compliment. I agree.

• 21:02Speaker 02

  Do you under, do you understand what I'm saying?

• 21:03Speaker 00

  I do.

• 21:03Speaker 02

  Like, when you watch, like, old Spielberg movies, he's good at, like, E.T. and Close Encounters of the Third Kind.

• 21:08Speaker 01

  I love that.

• 21:10Speaker 02

  Do you?

• 21:10Speaker 00

  I do, I do.

• 21:12Speaker 02

  Did you see the movie?

• 21:13Speaker 00

  Close Encounters of the Third Kind?

• 21:14Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 21:14Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 21:15Speaker 02

  What's it about, Angela?

• 21:16Speaker 00

  Fifty-five, of course, we saw it.

• 21:17Speaker 02

  What's it about, Angela?

• 21:18Speaker 00

  Oh, my God. First of all, it's Richard Dreyfuss, like, phenomenal performance.

• 21:22Speaker 02

  That's enough.

• 21:22Speaker 00

  All right.

• 21:23Speaker 02

  That's great, I believe you know.

• 21:24Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 21:25Speaker 02

  But, you know, early Spielberg, the houses live lived in, and if it's not lived in, I can't buy into it.

• 21:33Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 21:33Speaker 02

  If it doesn't feel real, you know, sometimes you watch a sitcom or, and everything's so clean.

• 21:40Speaker 00

  Squeaky, yeah.

• 21:41Speaker 02

  And you can tell it's on a stage, and I don't like it, you know? I like it when it's, like, lived in, is what I'm saying.

• 21:48Speaker 00

  The production designer on Nimrods, Adam Reamer, was a genius.

• 21:53Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 21:54Speaker 00

  Like, the home, the garage, all the sets.

• 21:57Speaker 02

  I've never seen you in a role like this before, as a mom. It's crazy.

• 22:02Speaker 00

  Oh, well, you know.

• 22:03Speaker 02

  Well, you were a mom on Scream.

• 22:06Speaker 00

  Except for that, except for the two years.

• 22:09Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 22:10Speaker 00

  We're on a sitcom together.

• 22:11Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 22:12Speaker 00

  But to your point, it's a different kind of role, and, um, I mean, I could get personal.

• 22:18Speaker 02

  Oh, my God, get personal.

• 22:19Speaker 00

  Should I?

• 22:20Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 22:21Speaker 00

  So, I shot this movie two weeks after I had my port removed, after having gone through all my cancer treatment. I had my last infusion, and I'd been kind of like, living in my house for like, a year, you know? Cause I was a little bit on my own personal lockdown, where my life was just about the treatments. And I had my last immunotherapy infusion, early in twenty twenty-five. And then I got my port removed, and two weeks later, I was on set shooting this movie. And from that experience, I had a kind of heaviness in me, because a lot had happened to me in that year.

• 23:02Speaker 00

  I had a literal heaviness. I gained fifteen pounds during chemo, and during all my treatment. And my hair had just started to grow back, like, I had just enough for this movie. That's my real hair. People have asked if it was a wig, but I had just enough hair. They kind of like brushed it forward. They were brilliant. And it was such a gift to me to take that and put it into this part, this part of this mom, who also has a real heaviness to her. She's a widow, she's raising two teen boys on her own, and she's a little bit at the end of her rope, but trying to be kind of optimistic at the same time. I mean, I love this woman, and I don't think this is a part that I would have been offered or asked to play, had I not gone through everything I went through.

• 23:45Speaker 00

  Cause I didn't have it in me. I didn't have it in my body. I didn't have it in my toolkit. Like, I just didn't have it. And so, for me, this movie is really, really special, because I got to take something hard that happened to me, and I got to put it into art, which is kind of just the best thing ever. And it was really healing for me. So, thank you for saying that. It really means a lot.

• 24:10Speaker 02

  I just, I'm sorry.

• 24:11Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 24:12Speaker 02

  You, I remember you telling me, on set, and it was devastating.

• 24:17Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 24:17Speaker 02

  I had no idea.

• 24:18Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 24:19Speaker 02

  Yeah, I'm so sorry, but you're.

• 24:21Speaker 00

  I'm in full remission.

• 24:22Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 24:23Speaker 00

  Yeah, and now it's like, it's good. God, it's weird to say it was a good thing that happened to me, but it was definitely one of those moments in life. It was a before and after, you know? There's like, there was my life before, and now there's my life after. And my life after, it's been transformative.

• 24:43Speaker 02

  I cannot, yeah.

• 24:45Speaker 00

  But, I mean, I feel like you must have had before and after with getting sober.

• 24:49Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 24:50Speaker 00

  Right?

• 24:50Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 24:51Speaker 00

  I mean, that's a very before and after.

• 24:52Speaker 02

  It's different, though. I don't, I don't think I was as scared as you might have been. You know, I always have thought, you know, I can always get sober or whatever. I mean, that's all I needed to do is to get sober, right? But you have no control over what you had, you know, so it's, must be terrifying.

• 25:10Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 25:11Speaker 01

  You know, truly, it's really hard to watch someone you love go through something and you don't know how to help them.

• 25:16Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 25:17Speaker 01

  And so, and anything you do to try to help, doesn't feel like enough, you know? And so, you just try to show up, you know?

• 25:25Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 25:25Speaker 01

  And so, even as you were saying all that, it was so great to watch this movie and have seen you through that, and on the other side, and getting to create. And I love the character, and I love the movie that Lee made. It's really great. I'm excited for people to see it.

• 25:40Speaker 00

  Well, lady, you took me to get my port removed, because Lee had started shooting the movie. It was a weird thing for us, too, cause he'd been with me the whole journey, and now his movie gets greenlit in like, the last two months of my treatment, and he had to be away. And so, Angela took me to get my port removed.

• 25:58Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 25:59Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm, which was amazing, cause she's the best BFF ever.

• 26:02Speaker 01

  Yeah, we're family.

• 26:03Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 26:04Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 26:04Speaker 02

  That's amazing.

• 26:05Speaker 01

  So, you take care of each other.

• 26:06Speaker 02

  I don't think I have anyone like that in my life. Maybe my girlfriend.

• 26:10Speaker 01

  Sure, your girlfriend.

• 26:12Speaker 02

  Yeah, maybe, maybe, maybe my girlfriend.

• 26:14Speaker 01

  Your girlfriend. She would take you to LAX, right?

• 26:17Speaker 02

  I don't think so, but I think that she would, for a port, I don't know, yeah.

• 26:20Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 26:20Speaker 02

  But Santino, I don't know. Andrew Santino, I don't know.

• 26:24Speaker 00

  I'm not sure Lee would drive me to LAX. He'll see me through cancer treatment, and I'm not sure he's dropping me at LAX.

• 26:32Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 26:32Speaker 00

  Or picking me up.

• 26:33Speaker 01

  For people listening, LAX is the worst airport to try to drop.

• 26:36Speaker 02

  It's the worst. Burbank, yes.

• 26:38Speaker 00

  Burbank?

• 26:38Speaker 02

  Yeah, for sure.

• 26:39Speaker 00

  He's taking me to Burbank.

• 26:40Speaker 02

  Burbank is fine.

• 26:41Speaker 00

  All the time.

• 26:41Speaker 01

  I would sure go to the Long Beach Airport. I would do that.

• 26:44Speaker 02

  Yes, yes, yes.

• 26:45Speaker 01

  But LAX, man. Wait, back to Nimrods.

• 26:48Speaker 02

  Yes, of course.

• 26:49Speaker 01

  Will you tell us how you got the role?

• 26:51Speaker 02

  I got a call from my agent, goes, they said you were offered this part, and I said yes immediately.

• 26:56Speaker 01

  There you go.

• 26:57Speaker 02

  Cause I knew Billy from a long time ago, during my Mad TV days.

• 27:02Speaker 00

  Billy Joe Armstrong, from Green Day, producer of this movie.

• 27:05Speaker 02

  Yeah, and, um, I used to hang out with him. I'd run into him, hang out with him. You know, back then, LA was different. Like, I remember going to Baja Fresh, and then running into the Strokes. You know what I mean? You just run into people.

• 27:16Speaker 00

  That's so cool.

• 27:17Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 27:17Speaker 01

  What was your first neighborhood in LA?

• 27:19Speaker 02

  It was North Hollywood, then Silver Lake, then West Hollywood, then Hollywood, and now Studio City. Yeah, so I, I've been around.

• 27:27Speaker 01

  Where were you in West Hollywood?

• 27:28Speaker 02

  I lived above the Comedy Store. Polly owned it.

• 27:31Speaker 00

  Are you serious?

• 27:32Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 27:33Speaker 00

  What was that like?

• 27:33Speaker 02

  It was terrible.

• 27:34Speaker 00

  I mean.

• 27:34Speaker 02

  It was a human nightmare.

• 27:36Speaker 00

  That seems really difficult.

• 27:38Speaker 02

  I would come home, I'd be on my bed, sleeping.

• 27:40Speaker 01

  Oh, my gosh.

• 27:41Speaker 02

  Polly, sure.

• 27:42Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 27:42Speaker 02

  Dude, I own the house, brah. Right? I can sleep wherever I want to sleep. I go, I pay rent, dude. Yeah, I pay rent. But anyway, so I moved out of there, because the house is falling off a cliff, they said.

• 27:58Speaker 01

  The Comedy Store, the house?

• 27:59Speaker 02

  No, no, so the, the house above the Comedy Store, the inspector came in and goes, you could die in here. And then I remember a bunch of comics were like, just buy a house. You can buy it. So, I bought my first house.

• 28:11Speaker 00

  Nice.

• 28:11Speaker 02

  After that, yeah, which is freeing, in many ways. It feels grown up.

• 28:16Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's a very grown up.

• 28:17Speaker 02

  And back then, you could afford it. Now you can't.

• 28:19Speaker 01

  No, now it's crazy.

• 28:20Speaker 02

  But yeah, now it's crazy.

• 28:21Speaker 01

  Okay, wait, there's one thing I have to tell you. I really want to come see your.

• 28:25Speaker 02

  No.

• 28:25Speaker 01

  Stage show.

• 28:26Speaker 02

  No.

• 28:27Speaker 01

  And then.

• 28:27Speaker 02

  What do you mean, stage show? Stand-up?

• 28:28Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 28:29Speaker 02

  Dude, yeah, it's just stand-up. I have a special coming out on Hulu in November.

• 28:34Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 28:34Speaker 02

  It's my first hour special.

• 28:36Speaker 01

  I know, you, it's your first hour special. That's amazing.

• 28:38Speaker 02

  For what company?

• 28:39Speaker 00

  Hulu.

• 28:40Speaker 02

  Okay, good.

• 28:40Speaker 01

  I was listening.

• 28:41Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 28:42Speaker 01

  But my sons love you, and they were so tickled that I was meeting you today. They just can't believe that you're in the podcast.

• 28:49Speaker 02

  Were they? Are they here?

• 28:50Speaker 01

  No, they're at home.

• 28:51Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 28:51Speaker 01

  But you're a big deal.

• 28:53Speaker 00

  You met my nephew on the set of Nimrods.

• 28:56Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 28:56Speaker 00

  He flew out, cause he wanted to see a couple of days of filming. It's cause of you.

• 29:01Speaker 02

  Was I nice to him?

• 29:02Speaker 00

  Yes, very.

• 29:03Speaker 02

  Cause, cause I'm a nice person?

• 29:04Speaker 00

  Yes, yes, you are, exactly. He was so excited to meet you, and that was so nice of you.

• 29:08Speaker 02

  Stage show?

• 29:09Speaker 01

  I sometimes get phrases wrong, just a little bit.

• 29:11Speaker 00

  I want to brag on you. I want to talk about what a nice person you are. I hope this won't be embarrassing to you. I don't think it would be. Okay, so there's a young guy in this movie, Ryan Faust.

• 29:22Speaker 02

  Love him.

• 29:22Speaker 00

  He plays the drummer in the Young Punk Band.

• 29:25Speaker 02

  Yeah, I understand.

• 29:26Speaker 00

  He's so great. He, I'm letting other people know.

• 29:29Speaker 02

  Uh-oh.

• 29:29Speaker 00

  This guy, first of all, he's just so good in the movie. He's so funny.

• 29:33Speaker 02

  He's so good in the movie?

• 29:34Speaker 00

  So good in the movie. And he had to learn to play the drums, because he's really playing.

• 29:40Speaker 02

  I think they all had to learn, right?

• 29:42Speaker 00

  Yes, well, Kyler Kaufman already knew how to play guitar, but yes, Mason Tames had to learn to play guitar, and then Ryan had to learn drums, and he was really dedicated.

• 29:51Speaker 02

  Yeah, cause he's a student of acting.

• 29:53Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 29:53Speaker 02

  He wants to immerse himself into the role and not look fake. And that's what I love about Ryan, is that he's brave, and he commits. And I know what the compliment is.

• 30:03Speaker 00

  You do?

• 30:03Speaker 02

  And I don't think it's a compliment, and I don't think it's me being a nice guy. It's just that, I like bravery.

• 30:10Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 30:11Speaker 02

  And Ryan said to me on set, I want to try stand-up. Is that what you're gonna, gonna?

• 30:15Speaker 00

  You said, you write a set, let's set a date, and I'll let you open for me.

• 30:20Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's what I said.

• 30:22Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 30:22Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 30:23Speaker 00

  I mean, that's fucking cool.

• 30:24Speaker 02

  And he did it a bunch of times.

• 30:26Speaker 00

  I know.

• 30:26Speaker 02

  Yeah, and he was very good.

• 30:28Speaker 00

  And that kind of like mentorship, like, that is so cool. That is so cool.

• 30:32Speaker 02

  Yeah, I've done that a lot, but it's like, I just love people that are brave, and that walk through fear, and I'm willing to hold someone's hand to do that, you know? But, yeah, I'm not one of those guys that are like, completely jealous, or I want people to make it.

• 30:48Speaker 01

  I love, beautiful thing.

• 30:49Speaker 02

  Because it's in, I mean, I, you know, in order to achieve success, you have to help people achieve the success, I believe.

• 30:55Speaker 00

  And people probably helped you.

• 30:57Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 30:57Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 30:58Speaker 02

  They did, yeah. I think the Shore family was very vital, you know? Polly's mom owned the Comedy Store, and she saw me do open mic, and then she saw me open for her son, and she made me a paid regular, and I moved to LA. This is in San Diego. And so, it really helped, and a lot of comics helped, you know? And, um, Dice Clay helped, in a weird way, you know? People really kind of pulled me up by my sleeves. Is that the term, or?

• 31:25Speaker 00

  I don't know.

• 31:28Speaker 00

  But people took a chance on you.

• 31:30Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 31:30Speaker 00

  Right?

• 31:31Speaker 02

  Well, people helped you, no?

• 31:32Speaker 00

  Of course, of course.

• 31:33Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 31:33Speaker 00

  And this is the thing, like, this is, I love that about our industry, when you find those other people who are like that. I believe there's enough room for everyone.

• 31:41Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 31:42Speaker 00

  And if you've got a talent, we've got room for you.

• 31:44Speaker 02

  Yes, I do believe that, too. And it's like, I'll tell you something, I was plagued by jealousy early on in my career.

• 31:50Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 31:51Speaker 02

  I had to have a moment where I was like, what about me? And then, you know, about a year of that, I was like, this is not who I am. And it's painful.

• 32:02Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 32:03Speaker 02

  To live in that.

• 32:04Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 32:04Speaker 02

  And I have to admit that, you know, but yeah, I'm completely different now.

• 32:07Speaker 01

  Yeah, abundant universe. You kind of come to that. And I think as you get older.

• 32:12Speaker 02

  I think that, um, to survive, you know, in this biz, and also, can I just say this, too? You're adapting to the transitions of show business. Like, for me, it's like, I saw the writing on the wall a little bit. I was like, I have to create my own thing.

• 32:30Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm, yeah.

• 32:31Speaker 02

  Right? And so you created this thing, it's your own thing.

• 32:34Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 32:34Speaker 02

  And it's like, you're adapting, because it's like, I think that, obviously, it's transitioning into something else. We don't know really what it is with the emergence of AI and other things. But it's like, we're adapting to what it is. So it's like, for you to survive this long is amazing.

• 32:50Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 32:51Speaker 02

  You know, you're survivors.

• 32:53Speaker 01

  Well, thanks for saying that. Yeah, you have to be able to adapt, right?

• 32:56Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 32:57Speaker 01

  So what do you want to do next?

• 33:00Speaker 02

  I'm gonna retire in three years.

• 33:02Speaker 00

  Is that true?

• 33:03Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 33:04Speaker 00

  Retire from what?

• 33:05Speaker 02

  Everything.

• 33:06Speaker 00

  From podcasting, comedy, and acting?

• 33:07Speaker 02

  Yeah, everything.

• 33:08Speaker 01

  You're just gonna peace out. Where are you going?

• 33:11Speaker 02

  I want to go to Hawaii.

• 33:12Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 33:13Speaker 02

  And just buy a little place.

• 33:15Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm, amazing.

• 33:16Speaker 02

  And just retire, and farm.

• 33:17Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 33:18Speaker 02

  But I'm never gonna do it, am I?

• 33:20Speaker 00

  Why not?

• 33:21Speaker 02

  Because I say it, but I don't think I will.

• 33:23Speaker 01

  This is a beautiful idea.

• 33:25Speaker 00

  Don't you feel compelled to be artistic and creative, though? Like, where will you take that energy in the Hawaii farming chapter?

• 33:34Speaker 02

  Okay, so here's what I'll do. This is my plan, okay?

• 33:38Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 33:38Speaker 02

  I'll still do my own solo podcast in Hawaii.

• 33:41Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 33:42Speaker 02

  But more ranting and raving about things.

• 33:44Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 33:46Speaker 02

  And then I'll still do local stand-up in Hawaii.

• 33:49Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 33:49Speaker 02

  Yeah, and then I think that'll fill, you know, but it's like-

• 33:52Speaker 00

  Fill your box.

• 33:53Speaker 02

  Yeah, but I think that I've been chasing this since I was 23 years old.

• 33:58Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 33:58Speaker 02

  And it never seems like I made it.

• 34:00Speaker 00

  You made it.

• 34:01Speaker 02

  I know, but it doesn't feel like it. I know.

• 34:03Speaker 00

  Okay, I want to unpack this. What do you expect making it would feel like?

• 34:09Speaker 02

  Well, can I be honest with you?

• 34:10Speaker 00

  Of course.

• 34:10Speaker 02

  This is the first movie Nimrods where I was in the opening credits.

• 34:14Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 34:15Speaker 02

  So thank you for that experience.

• 34:18Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 34:18Speaker 02

  I've done a lot of movies before, but I was always in the end credits. And 52 names would come down. And they would say, Bobby Lee, Ken Park, but like, no one's watching. My point is that, I've been in this business for so long. I've been on sitcoms and series regular, so God bless America. But my point is this, is that this is the first movie where I was in the opening credits.

• 34:39Speaker 00

  You're on the movie poster, too.

• 34:41Speaker 02

  I know. My point, though, being that I'm grateful for what I've had, but it's like, this chasing thing, I think I'm done with.

• 34:48Speaker 01

  Well, that's a real thing to listen to. I'm with you. I feel tired of just-

• 34:52Speaker 02

  Chasing.

• 34:53Speaker 01

  Chasing. I don't want to be a hamster on the wheel. I've been telling Jenna that. And I'm happy, and I think everything I've done is enough for me. Really.

• 35:02Speaker 02

  Happiness is a worm. Yes, it is. God, I don't know why I did this. I'm sorry.

• 35:18Speaker 01

  Can you tell us more about Mad TV? What was that like?

• 35:22Speaker 02

  But you understand, when I was on Mad TV, I'd never taken an acting class, I'd never been on TV. I didn't know what a jib camera was, or a mark was, or any of that.

• 35:29Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 35:29Speaker 02

  So you're learning how to do TV. I was an open mic'er, like, doing just like, little rooms and like, empty rooms. No one knew who I was. And then all of a sudden, you know, I auditioned, it was a cattle call, pretty much. And then it came down to me and Taryn Killam.

• 35:47Speaker 00

  That's crazy.

• 35:48Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 35:48Speaker 02

  And they hired both of us. He was on Mad TV before he was on SNL.

• 35:52Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah.

• 35:52Speaker 02

  Yeah. And then all of a sudden, I'm on a show, and I don't know how to do it. Like, I just didn't know how to do it. And-

• 35:57Speaker 01

  How old were you?

• 35:59Speaker 02

  I was 30.

• 36:00Speaker 01

  30, yeah.

• 36:01Speaker 00

  Yeah, I was 30 when I booked The Office.

• 36:03Speaker 02

  Yeah. And I was like, how do you do this? You know? I did some commercials, but it's like, those are different.

• 36:10Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 36:10Speaker 02

  Because, you know, sometimes when you're in a commercial, it's like, you'll see somebody running by you, you just do a facial expression. Those I can do. Right? But it's like, you know, anything with like, substantial lines, you know, it would be nerve-wracking for me. Because back then, also, there was no teleprompter.

• 36:26Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 36:26Speaker 02

  So if I would play Connie Chung and I had to do a monologue, it was literally-

• 36:30Speaker 01

  You had to learn the whole thing.

• 36:31Speaker 02

  Learn the whole thing.

• 36:32Speaker 00

  Is that right?

• 36:32Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 36:33Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 36:34Speaker 00

  Wow.

• 36:34Speaker 02

  And you're looking in the camera, and you're like, you have to memorize a page worth of things. And I remember at one time, one of the producers came up to me, and she held my hands, and she said, just breathe. It goes in front of a live audience, too. I don't know, I never did, you know, in high school, maybe did some plays, but, you know, I was in The Sound of Music. I played Kirk, whatever, or Kurt, whatever his name is. But I played Huckleberry Finn. Yeah. Why are you laughing?

• 37:01Speaker 01

  I don't know.

• 37:04Speaker 01

  I just-

• 37:04Speaker 02

  Can I just say something?

• 37:05Speaker 01

  I wish I could go back and see you in these productions.

• 37:08Speaker 02

  So, so, when Fräulein Maria calls us for the first thing coming down the, I was in high school, and I played, I was the only Korean kid in the cast. And every time the audience would see me, the audience would laugh.

• 37:20Speaker 01

  Oh, no, that's terrible.

• 37:22Speaker 02

  Well, it's because, and then I asked the director of, you know, you're in high school, you're like, can we change the lines? They go, what do you mean? I go, just to justify why I'm there.

• 37:32Speaker 01

  So like, you're-

• 37:32Speaker 02

  Like, I'm Kirk, I'm adopted, or something.

• 37:35Speaker 01

  So long, farewell, and be to say goodnight.

• 37:39Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 37:39Speaker 01

  I'm Kirk, I'm adopted.

• 37:41Speaker 02

  Yeah, something like that, right? It's like, even playing Huckleberry Finn, it's like, we have to justify why I'm Korean in the South.

• 37:51Speaker 02

  And in this time period.

• 37:53Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's where things have changed, I feel like.

• 37:55Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 37:56Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 37:56Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 37:56Speaker 01

  For our kids.

• 37:57Speaker 02

  I couldn't even believe I even got those roles. You know, like, anyway, so I was scared, but I'm fine now. Yeah. Can I tell you what they did to me at Mad TV?

• 38:06Speaker 01

  What?

• 38:06Speaker 00

  What?

• 38:06Speaker 02

  They made a compilation of my bad table reads.

• 38:10Speaker 00

  Do you do bad table reads?

• 38:11Speaker 02

  I do.

• 38:11Speaker 00

  You're not good at a table read?

• 38:12Speaker 02

  I hate them.

• 38:13Speaker 01

  Table reads are intimidating, though. They are.

• 38:15Speaker 02

  I think you kill it.

• 38:16Speaker 01

  No, I don't, I get-

• 38:17Speaker 00

  She does.

• 38:18Speaker 02

  She does.

• 38:18Speaker 00

  She'll get like, a guest spot on a show.

• 38:20Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 38:21Speaker 00

  And she'll do the table read, and then they'll give her more lines the next day, because she crushed the table read.

• 38:26Speaker 02

  Wow.

• 38:27Speaker 00

  That's Angela Kinsey.

• 38:28Speaker 02

  Wow.

• 38:28Speaker 00

  She's always, no, it's true, lady. They're always like, expand, you're like, oh, we wrote you another whole scene.

• 38:34Speaker 02

  They take scenes away from me.

• 38:35Speaker 00

  Crushed the table.

• 38:36Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 38:37Speaker 00

  This is the truth.

• 38:38Speaker 02

  I've literally had people go, we're not doing that scene. And you go, oh, why? But I know why. Because I [bleep] up the scene before. It's hard when you're guest starring.

• 38:48Speaker 01

  It is, guest-

• 38:49Speaker 02

  Because people, because people have been working together for maybe sometimes years.

• 38:53Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah.

• 38:53Speaker 02

  And you're like, a new person. And sometimes they're not even that nice to you.

• 38:59Speaker 01

  Here's the thing, I'm okay at a table read, but I'm horrible at the chit-chat, small talk, once we're on set.

• 39:06Speaker 00

  When you're a guest star?

• 39:07Speaker 01

  Yeah, because I assume, like, if someone's like, oh, how are you? How was your day? Jenna knows. I'll just say, well, here's the thing. I think a rat is eating the inside of my car.

• 39:21Speaker 00

  This is true.

• 39:22Speaker 01

  But I will tell this person, who's just like, an AD, who just is wanting to like, walk right past me.

• 39:28Speaker 02

  But it's a funny thing to say.

• 39:30Speaker 01

  But it's just what's happening. Do you know what I mean?

• 39:32Speaker 02

  Yeah, sometimes, yeah.

• 39:34Speaker 01

  And so then-

• 39:34Speaker 02

  Those are inside thoughts.

• 39:35Speaker 01

  Yes, and then I watch the person's eyes glaze over of like, oh, my God.

• 39:40Speaker 02

  I told Sarah Jessica Parker I had foot fungi.

• 39:43Speaker 01

  Did you really?

• 39:43Speaker 02

  We were sitting there, and she was doing crosswords or something, as they do.

• 39:47Speaker 00

  Oh, yes, you were so good on that show.

• 39:50Speaker 02

  No, I wasn't.

• 39:50Speaker 00

  And Just Like That.

• 39:52Speaker 02

  I don't think I was, but thank you.

• 39:53Speaker 00

  Stop it!

• 39:54Speaker 02

  But, yeah, I remember like, doing that, like-

• 39:56Speaker 00

  Making conversation.

• 39:57Speaker 02

  Yeah, but it was like, my, like, I'm around a lot of comedians, you know, and she was super nice. I love her.

• 40:05Speaker 00

  Of course.

• 40:05Speaker 02

  But I didn't know what to bring up.

• 40:07Speaker 00

  Can I tell you my super cringe story?

• 40:10Speaker 02

  Tell me.

• 40:11Speaker 00

  Of being a co-star? Not even a guest star. Not a recurring-

• 40:14Speaker 02

  What's the difference?

• 40:15Speaker 00

  Okay, you were recurring on And Just Like That. You were in several episodes, but not every episode. You're in many episodes, though. That's recurring. That's great. You're like, kind of part of the cast.

• 40:26Speaker 02

  What's guest starring?

• 40:27Speaker 00

  Guest star is when you have, like-

• 40:29Speaker 02

  One episode?

• 40:29Speaker 01

  One week, one week.

• 40:30Speaker 00

  One whole week. You probably have multiple scenes. You have a significant, like, some part of the story involves you. And then co-star is usually also referred to as like five and under. You have five or less lines. Okay, but I had a co-star role on a comedy. I had five or less lines and it was on-

• 40:47Speaker 02

  Post Office.

• 40:48Speaker 00

  Pre-Office.

• 40:49Speaker 02

  Oh, then that's-

• 40:50Speaker 00

  It was Spin City, the Charlie Sheen years. So I'm in this scene. So it's Charlie Sheen, Heather Locklear, Scott Wolf, and Vanessa Marcel. So all of these people are like household names and I am hired to play their waitress. But I'm new. This is my first speaking role on a television show.

• 41:12Speaker 02

  You were nervous.

• 41:13Speaker 00

  I was in Hair and Makeup with Heather Locklear. She was so nice to me. And then we get on set and we rehearse, but now we're waiting for notes. And the four of them start talking. And oh my God, they're talking about like all these tabloid stories and they know if something's true or not true.

• 41:33Speaker 01

  They're gossiping.

• 41:34Speaker 00

  They're gossiping.

• 41:35Speaker 02

  And you're listening in.

• 41:36Speaker 00

  I'm listening, but I don't know where I'm supposed to be. Like, am I part of this group? Or am I not part of this group?

• 41:42Speaker 02

  You're not.

• 41:42Speaker 00

  And I didn't- And so I, before I knew, because she was so nice to me in the trailer-

• 41:49Speaker 02

  Heather Locklear.

• 41:50Speaker 00

  I think I'm part of the group.

• 41:51Speaker 01

  You think you're a pal.

• 41:52Speaker 02

  How do you- What are the signs that you're a part of the group? Because she was nice to you?

• 41:56Speaker 00

  Because she was nice to me in Hair and Makeup.

• 41:58Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 41:58Speaker 00

  And we're standing there and I'm-

• 42:00Speaker 02

  When you say nice, she said hello.

• 42:02Speaker 00

  She also asked if I wanted some cheese.

• 42:04Speaker 02

  Oh, that's good. That's really nice.

• 42:05Speaker 00

  She's like, I want some-

• 42:06Speaker 01

  BFF.

• 42:07Speaker 02

  Yeah, BFF, okay.

• 42:09Speaker 00

  Someone came in and said, does anybody want a snack? She's like, oh my God, could we get like some cheese and crackers and stuff? She's like, do you want some cheese and crackers? If you share them?

• 42:15Speaker 02

  What a sweetheart.

• 42:16Speaker 00

  Right? And I'm like, I'll take cheese and crackers. Sure. No, so anyway, I can't move. I'm not allowed to leave the set. I have to stand next to the table while we're waiting for our notes. And they're talking and I think I'm in the conversation and so I chime in.

• 42:30Speaker 02

  Oh, no.

• 42:32Speaker 01

  No.

• 42:33Speaker 02

  Oh, no. Instinctually, no.

• 42:36Speaker 00

  Do you feel it?

• 42:37Speaker 02

  I feel it right now. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

• 42:40Speaker 00

  Bobby, you know how you're still carrying around the phone incident from splitting up together? I carry around my chime in.

• 42:46Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 42:47Speaker 00

  On Spin City.

• 42:48Speaker 02

  Wow.

• 42:48Speaker 00

  I still, in my body.

• 42:49Speaker 01

  Can you tell me what the reaction was? Like, do you remember?

• 42:52Speaker 00

  Crickets. It was crickets. It was silence. It was silence. And then Heather Locklear broke the silence with like a completely kind, like, gesture. Like a, kind of like, ah, huh, you know, like-

• 43:07Speaker 02

  But imagine them- But imagine them when you got the Office.

• 43:11Speaker 00

  Oh, well, what-

• 43:13Speaker 02

  And then they, and they look back and they went, you know what? Hey, we should have been nicer to her.

• 43:18Speaker 00

  No, they were, it's not that they-

• 43:19Speaker 02

  We should have left.

• 43:20Speaker 00

  It's not that they were unkind.

• 43:21Speaker 02

  What'd you say?

• 43:22Speaker 00

  I don't remember. I just chimed in on the conversation and I realized it was just a record scratch. But then the very next year, I booked a pilot opposite Scott Wolf.

• 43:33Speaker 02

  Wow.

• 43:34Speaker 01

  Tell them the name of the pilot. This is amazing.

• 43:37Speaker 00

  Rubbing Charlie. That's a real title.

• 43:41Speaker 01

  Who bounced that around?

• 43:42Speaker 02

  Yeah, Scott Wolf, Charlie?

• 43:43Speaker 00

  Yeah, I rubbed him.

• 43:46Speaker 02

  Really?

• 43:46Speaker 00

  I was a masseuse.

• 43:46Speaker 02

  Wow.

• 43:47Speaker 00

  And it was like, he was a successful doctor.

• 43:50Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 43:51Speaker 00

  And he would come to see me as his masseuse.

• 43:54Speaker 01

  What is this show?

• 43:55Speaker 02

  What is that show?

• 43:56Speaker 00

  I was kind of like therapy for him, but I was the female lead. I did not remind Scott Wolf that I had been on Spin City with him. Because I wanted him to just forget.

• 44:06Speaker 02

  But you know why you shouldn't bring it? I think you're in six is right because, and I'm going to say this, is that you perceived it that way.

• 44:14Speaker 01

  Oh, you just got deep, Bobby.

• 44:16Speaker 00

  Mm.

• 44:17Speaker 02

  Because we perceive things like personally and we ruminate about things.

• 44:22Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 44:22Speaker 02

  And it might not even be true to them.

• 44:25Speaker 01

  Oh, that's so good.

• 44:27Speaker 02

  So I do that a lot. Like, I'll bring it up, something up and I'll go, I was so embarrassed. And they're like, we don't even remember that. What are you talking about?

• 44:34Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 44:35Speaker 02

  And I'm like, oh. And then you kind of go, oh, it's in my mind.

• 44:39Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 44:39Speaker 02

  And you lay in bed and you think about it.

• 44:41Speaker 00

  You replay it.

• 44:42Speaker 02

  Replay it over and over again. But it's like, you know, I'm sure none of them even remember you being in the show.

• 44:49Speaker 00

  That's what I mean. Like, he didn't see me on day one of our pilot and be like, oh my gosh, the waitress.

• 44:55Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 44:56Speaker 00

  Who said that weird thing? He didn't say anything. Just like, until you reminded me, I did not remember about that time you didn't show up to set because you overslept. Like, I had-

• 45:05Speaker 02

  Yeah, but I've been thinking about that every day since.

• 45:07Speaker 00

  Yeah, and I-

• 45:08Speaker 01

  But now you can let it go.

• 45:09Speaker 02

  I'm going to let it go now, yeah.

• 45:10Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 45:11Speaker 02

  All right, so that was good podcast.

• 45:13Speaker 00

  Thank you for coming on Office Ladies.

• 45:15Speaker 02

  I want to say, watch Nimrods. It comes out, what's the date?

• 45:18Speaker 00

  August 14th.

• 45:19Speaker 02

  August 14th.

• 45:21Speaker 00

  In theaters.

• 45:21Speaker 02

  In theaters.

• 45:22Speaker 00

  Worldwide.

• 45:23Speaker 01

  Bobby plays Otis, he's hilarious.

• 45:25Speaker 02

  I play Otis. And then, um, you know, it's really good to be here.

• 45:31Speaker 02

  We could do this for 10 hours, I think.

• 45:33Speaker 01

  We could.

• 45:34Speaker 00

  We're a good team.

• 45:35Speaker 02

  Don't you think? We could go on forever.

• 45:37Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 45:38Speaker 00

  I think we're good together.

• 45:40Speaker 02

  I do too.

• 45:40Speaker 00

  I do.

• 45:43Speaker 01

  My gosh, Bobby is just so fun and so great to talk to. We talked about things I could never have anticipated.

• 45:52Speaker 00

  Yeah, no, that's the great thing about Bobby is he's really, really funny, obviously. So you know you're just going to have a fun time when you're with him. But he isn't afraid to get serious. Oh, but before we go, Sam, I want to share that you are also in Nimrods.

• 46:08Speaker 02

  Yes, there's a big crowd scene at the end that I am in. If you have an eagle eye, you should be able to spot me and my friend Steve and my friend Samantha.

• 46:15Speaker 01

  You're, you're at the New Year's Eve big concert.

• 46:18Speaker 02

  Yes. I just wanted to say, I don't think we talked about that moment since then. I grew up in a real small town in Wisconsin. I still have a lot of friends and family back there. They often think my life is a lot more exciting than it is due to this podcast and my social media and stuff like that. That was one of those moments. I remember leaving, being like, I can feast on this for months. Like, this is why I left my small town in Wisconsin.

• 46:40Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 46:41Speaker 02

  Yeah, that was so cool. Thank you for having me.

• 46:44Speaker 00

  I mean, it was really neat. And when you got there, everybody had to put their phones in like a little pouch. Nobody was allowed to have their phone, but I sneaked pictures of you and your friends.

• 46:56Speaker 02

  That's right.

• 46:57Speaker 01

  And, um- Sam, it's good to know the director's wife.

• 46:59Speaker 02

  Yeah. Well, keep in mind, this is the second cool thing. You invited me to the table read.

• 47:04Speaker 01

  A long time ago.

• 47:05Speaker 02

  At the Palladium.

• 47:07Speaker 00

  Oh, my gosh.

• 47:08Speaker 02

  This is my second time being up close in front with Green Day, thanks to you.

• 47:12Speaker 00

  And what a full circle moment that you were at the very first table read of this movie when it was in development.

• 47:19Speaker 01

  And I read multiple characters, so did you, Jenna, because Lee just needed to hear it out loud.

• 47:24Speaker 00

  Yes, but Green Day was there.

• 47:26Speaker 02

  That's right. Billy just sat next to me. Also, did you mention earlier, this is the sleepy?

• 47:31Speaker 00

  Sleepy.

• 47:32Speaker 02

  Copenhagen sleepy?

• 47:34Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 47:35Speaker 02

  That is bananas.

• 47:36Speaker 00

  Bananas.

• 47:37Speaker 02

  That is, that is a deep cut.

• 47:39Speaker 00

  I hope I'm not going to get in trouble for sharing that sleepy makes an appearance.

• 47:43Speaker 01

  Do you need to ask and make sure?

• 47:45Speaker 00

  I mean, a few people have mentioned it when they have written about the movie. So I think at this point, it's coming out on Friday.

• 47:54Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 47:55Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 47:55Speaker 02

  That is a deep cut, by the way. It's a deep cut. That's awesome.

• 47:59Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 47:59Speaker 01

  Well, so cool. Everybody go see the movie and let's all look for Sam. And wow, thank you, Bobby Lee, for joining us in the studio today.

• 48:08Speaker 00

  He's wonderful. I love him so much. Everyone, please remember he has his comedy special coming out in November on Hulu. And be sure to check him out on his two podcasts, Bad Friends.

• 48:19Speaker 01

  And Tiger Belly. They're very funny and you can find them on YouTube and wherever you listen to your podcasts. And check all three of us out in the movie Nimrods, coming out August 14th.

• 48:32Speaker 00

  Everyone, it is a really, really fun movie to see in a group in the theaters.

• 48:37Speaker 01

  So grab your pals. We'll be there and we hope you enjoy it.

• 48:42Speaker 00

  All right, we'll see you next week.

• 48:44Speaker 01

  See you then.

• 48:48Speaker 00

  Thank you for listening to Office Ladies.

• 48:50Speaker 01

  Office Ladies is a presentation of Odyssey and is produced by Jenna Fisher and Angela Kinsey.

• 48:55Speaker 00

  Our senior producer is Matt Beagle and our audio engineer is Sam Kiefer.

• 48:59Speaker 01

  Odyssey's executive producer is Leah Reese Dennis.

• 49:03Speaker 00

  Office Ladies was mixed and mastered by Bill Schultz.

• 49:06Speaker 01

  Our theme song is Rubber Tree by Creed Bratton.