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My 3-Step Protocol for Managing Anxiety

Office Hours with Arthur Brooks

Hosted by Arthur Brooks

49m
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In this episode of Office Hours, Arthur Brooks argues that the common goal of eliminating anxiety is both futile and misguided, because anxiety is an evolutionary mechanism designed to alert us to potential threats. Instead of trying to eradicate it, listeners should learn to manage anxiety and reframe it as an adventure that can elevate performance and lead to flow states. Drawing on historical insights from Soren Kierkegaard and modern research on social media overuse, brain hemispheric lateralization, and HPA axis activation, Brooks outlines a three-step protocol for dealing with anxiety: accept it as a normal part of a chosen life, recognize that out-of-the-ordinary challenges are desirable, and lean into the sources of stress rather than avoiding them.

  • Accept anxiety as a normal part of your life instead of trying to eliminate it completely. 31:19
  • Recognize that out-of-the-ordinary challenges and adventures are actually what you want in life. 33:53
  • Deepen your engagement with the sources of stress instead of leaning out. 36:19
  • Write down the best, worst, and most likely cases with probabilities to reduce uncertainty. 39:09

Chapters

  1. 0:00
  2. 1:03
    Defining Anxiety and Its Prevalence

    Arthur Brooks explains what anxiety is, its prevalence among adults and especially women, and why it should be managed rather than eliminated.

  3. 3:40
    Personal Story: Children Turn Anxiety into Adventure

    Brooks shares how his children, particularly Marines, transformed their teenage angst into purposeful adventure, inspiring his 3‑step protocol.

  4. 9:32
    Scientific Foundations: Fear, Anxiety, and Flow

    The host delves into the biology of fear and anxiety, differentiating them from stress, and introduces research linking moderate anxiety to optimal flow states.

  5. 31:40
    Three-Step Protocol for Managing Anxiety

    Brooks outlines his practical framework: accept anxiety, seek adventure in the out‑of‑ordinary, and lean into anxiety sources rather than avoiding them.

  6. 37:20
    Practical Techniques: Reframing and Engagement

    Detailed strategies are provided, including reframing anxiety as excitement, creating concrete action plans, and using cognitive techniques to reduce worry.

  7. 41:46
    Addressing Common Questions and Special Cases

    The host answers listener questions about poets, addiction, and health protocols, offering tailored advice and resources.

  8. 46:10
    Intro and Context

    The host sets the stage for discussing anxiety management protocols.

  9. 47:03
    Meditation and Prayer Practices

    Discussion of incorporating meditation or prayer into daily routines.

Highlights

Quotes

  • “Anxiety is unfocused fear, characterized by recursive negative thoughts, AKA worry, and physiological manifestations, AKA stress.”
    Arthur Brooks · 12:06
  • “The average person, American, checks her or his device 205 times a day, which means we're constantly going into these platforms again and again and again and again.”
    Arthur Brooks · 17:30
  • “Healthy levels of anxiety are highly protective, as I mentioned before, for alerting you to potential threats, keeping your attention on potential threats.”
    Arthur Brooks · 26:13
  • “If anxiety is part of your life that you don't like, let's talk today about how we can make it into something else.”
    Arthur Brooks · 6:48
  • “Number one, get up at the time that actually is, is as early as possible, appropriate to your health.”
    Arthur Brooks · 46:28
  • “I am a huge proponent of boredom.”
    Arthur Brooks · 48:05
  • “Your default mode network is responsible for your creativity, your flights of fancy, your, and ultimately the sense of meaning in your life is where you actually come up with these unbidden ideas.”
    Arthur Brooks · 48:17
  • “I recommend that everybody set aside time to be bored, to do things that are boring on purpose.”
    Arthur Brooks · 48:36
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About this episode

If you struggle with anxiety, you might wish you could get rid of it altogether. But your brain’s alarm system exists for a reason. The trouble is that the way we live today can set it off far more often than it should. In this episode of Office Hours, I break down what anxiety actually is and what chronic anxiety does to your body. The key is understanding when anxiety is hurting us and when it can help us. I share three simple but powerful strategies to manage your anxiety and create more opportunities for happiness, adventure, and meaning in your life. — Brought to you by: • Noble Mobile https://noblemobile.com/arthurbrooks—With Noble, there is only one plan: The No-Bull Plan. It’s simple. It’s transparent. And if you use less data, you get cash back. Get an exclusive offer at:https://noblemobile.com/arthurbrookshttps://noblemobile.com/arthurbrooks. • Helix Sleep https://go.helixsleep.com/audio-partner/?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=audio&utm_campaign=brooks—A mattress designed for every body. Go to helixsleep.com/brooks http://helixsleep.com/brooks for 27% off sitewide for their Labor Day Sale—an exclusive offer for listeners of Office Hours. — Where to find Arthur Brooks: • Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://arthurbrooks.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://arthurbrooks.com/ • In-person Retreats: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://retreats.arthurbrooks.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://retreats.arthurbrooks.com/ • Newsletter: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.arthurbrooks.com/newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.arthurbrooks.com/newsletter • X: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/arthurbrooks⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://x.com/arthurbrooks • Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/arthurcbrooks/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.instagram.com/arthurcbrooks/ • Facebook: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/ArthurBrooks/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.facebook.com/ArthurBrooks/ • YouTube: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGuyFRjJQFGCKzfHTBvWM6A⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGuyFRjJQFGCKzfHTBvWM6A • LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/arthur-c-brooks/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.linkedin.com/in/arthur-c-brooks/ • Email: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ mailto:[email protected] — Timestamps: (00:00) Intro (07:36) What anxiety is (12:07) Why we need anxiety and when it becomes too much (16:00) Why anxiety is rising among young people (17:08) What devices do to your brain (23:05) Why trying to eliminate anxiety falls short (26:36) Some positives of anxiety (31:08) #1: Accept your anxiety (33:37) #2: Reframe your anxiety (36:01) #3: Lean into the source of your anxiety (41:29) Q&A: Struggling with addiction as a Poet PANAS type (44:57) Q&A: Modifying protocols for your health and lifestyle (47:08) Q&A: The value of daydreaming — Referenced: • The Meaning of Your Life: Finding Purpose in an Age of Emptiness: https://www.arthurbrooks.com/the-meaning-of-your-life • Meaning Membership:https://hub.arthurbrooks.com/the-meaning-membership • Arthur’s newsletter:https://www.arthurbrooks.com/newsletter • The Happiness Scale:https://learn.arthurbrooks.com/the-happiness-scale • The Pursuit of Happiness with Arthur Brooks:https://www.thefp.com/s/the-pursuit-of-happiness-with-arthur • Marines on Netflix: https://www.netflix.com/title/81750378 • Søren Kierkegaard: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S%C3%B8ren_Kierkegaard • Surviving Anxiety: https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2014/01/surviving_anxiety/355741 • Trends in anxiety among adults in the United States, 2008-2018: Rapid increases among young adults: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32905958 • ... References continued at: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.arthurbrooks.com/office-hours⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.arthurbrooks.com/office-hours

Transcript

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