Bonus Episode: A Smorgasbord of Gossip with Nadira Goffe

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• 0:06Speaker 00

  Hello and welcome to Normal Gossip. I'm your host, Rachel Hampton, and in each episode of this podcast, we are gonna bring you an anonymous morsel of gossip from the real world. Hello, y'all. I know this is a bit of a surprise. I know we said we wouldn't be back until summer, and that is technically true. We will not be back with a full, regular gossip story until the summer. We are working on our production calendar right now for Season 10 All-Stars, and I am so excited for y'all to hear. But in the meantime, I did feel just a tiny bit guilty for not being able to do that finale episode of Season 9, even though

• 0:49Speaker 00

  y'all have been so kind and lovely in the response to that finale episode. It has truly been one of the most humbling experiences of my life to be supported in this way. I can't even think about it too much, or else I'll cry. So I can't say how much I appreciate that. So I'm gonna stop talking about that. What I'm not gonna stop talking about is this is a very exciting little bonus episode that we have for you guys. If you are a subscriber to the show at the friend or friend of a friend level, you've already heard this. Most of y'all are not, though you can if you want to get the early goss. This is one of our subscriber

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  episodes with one of my all-time favorite guests, Nadira Goff, where we react to some gossip morsels that neither one of us had heard before the recording. That maybe explains the unhinged quality of this episode. I really hope you guys enjoy.

• 1:52Speaker 00

  I am beyond excited to welcome Nadira Goff back to the show. You might remember her from season eight, A Devilish Horde of Pestilence, one of the best episodes that we have ever published. Nadira, hello. Welcome back. Thank you for joining me.

• 2:12Speaker 01

  Hi. Thanks for having me. Can I share a small piece of gossip?

• 2:16Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 2:18Speaker 01

  Which is nothing other than a horrendous thing that happened on the subway this morning on my way into the office. I was sitting there minding my business on a morning where like nothing goes right. You know, the way some mornings are. And there was a man across from me who was eating a pear on the subway. But he, this was the first, this was the red flag at first. He, he took off the sticker and he threw the sticker on the ground.

• 2:43Speaker 00

  Not littering.

• 2:44Speaker 01

  He took off this, yes, then he took off the stem and he threw the stem on the ground.

• 2:49Speaker 00

  Not littering times two.

• 2:50Speaker 01

  And then he proceeded to eat this pear in the most horrendous fashion, where he would like take pieces of skin that were like falling off as he was eating it and throw them on the ground. And then he proceeded to throw the core of the pear on the ground. And I thought it was over, but it turns out he had two pears.

• 3:08Speaker 00

  No.

• 3:10Speaker 01

  And he ate the second pear that way. And then he was like in a rush to get to where he was going. He left all the pear carcass on the ground and his water bottle, his full Essentia water bottle. And I was traumatized. And that's my gossip for you this morning.

• 3:25Speaker 00

  Wait, wait, wait. So were you on the subway platform or you already on the train when this happened?

• 3:30Speaker 01

  No, we were on the train.

• 3:31Speaker 00

  That's even.

• 3:32Speaker 01

  This was on the train.

• 3:33Speaker 00

  Okay, sometimes, I'm sure you've had this experience where you get onto a train car and you see a pile of garbage. And you're like, where did that come from? What kind of person would do that? And now you have informed me what kind of person would do that. And I don't know if it's worse to encounter the pile of trash without the person who made it or seeing the pile of trash being made.

• 3:53Speaker 01

  I think they're equally bad because one is without context, right? That's scary. I don't know where that came from.

• 3:58Speaker 00

  No, exactly.

• 3:58Speaker 01

  But then, once you have the context, you're like, that's scary. Now I know where that came from. And I don't, I don't like either of them.

• 4:05Speaker 00

  Is ignorance bliss? Maybe.

• 4:07Speaker 01

  Well, sometimes.

• 4:08Speaker 00

  Sometimes. Oh, also, why are you throwing the skin away?

• 4:13Speaker 01

  I don't understand because that's where all the fiber is.

• 4:15Speaker 00

  Literally, I was gonna say, that's where the fiber is.

• 4:18Speaker 01

  And I say this as someone who loves pears. Pears are my favorite fruit, one of my favorite fruits.

• 4:23Speaker 00

  Interesting.

• 4:23Speaker 01

  And it just felt so wrong to see them done so dirty like that. But when he pulled out the second pear, my face. Oh, God, I wish someone was videotaping me. The face that I made, I'm sure, when he pulled out that second pear, was probably very transparent. It was the plot twist of the century.

• 4:43Speaker 00

  Two pear?

• 4:45Speaker 01

  I thought we were done. I thought we were done with the carnage.

• 4:50Speaker 00

  This sequel that no one asked for?

• 4:54Speaker 00

  Thank you for that gossip. I will now be looking at every pile of trash that I encounter on the subway with even more disdain and deep sorrow than I was beforehand. So.

• 5:06Speaker 01

  You're welcome.

• 5:07Speaker 00

  After the gift that I gave you

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  on our last episode where I traumatized you with roaches, I only feel like you, thank you for giving it back to me. I appreciate that. This is an equal exchange of information. I do, and you're right. Okay, are you ready for some other gossip?

• 5:25Speaker 01

  I am, some hopefully more hinged gossip.

• 5:29Speaker 00

  I can't promise that.

• 5:30Speaker 01

  Right.

• 5:31Speaker 00

  Roll the tapes.

• 5:34Speaker 02

  When I was younger, I worked at a very chic coffee shop in a trendy neighborhood. It was very expensive and just quintessential 2015 hipster vibes. With the exception of the two beautiful Greek daddy brothers that own the place, I worked with mostly women, which honestly, I loved. After a couple of months of me working there, they hired a new barista. He was very cute and I immediately had a feeling that this would not end well. We've heard of each other a lot, but we tried to keep it low key due to how strictly owners were about running the shop. One night I came in for a closing shift and I noticed it would just be the barista and I worked in together. We spent the shift cracking jokes, making eyes at each other, you know, as you do. And after a busy night, the shift was finally over, so I locked the front door and we were alone at last.

• 6:18Speaker 02

  I started doing the typical closing duties, which included things like sweeping, mopping, storing leftover food and cleaning the bathroom. I grabbed the supplies and went to get started on the bathroom, but when I turned around, the barista was standing in the doorway. He walks into the bathroom with me, closes the door and immediately pins me against the wall. We proceeded to make out for the next thirty minutes or so, but we eventually pull ourselves together and finish our closing duties. I left that night hoping things would progress even further in the future. I mean, preferably not at work, but I was feeling optimistic nonetheless.

• 6:50Speaker 02

  The next day I wake up with a new glow as I head off to work with a bounce in my step, listening to music, you know, all the things you do when you have a new crush. But when I walk in the door, I can already feel a heaviness in the room. One of the extremely hot owners pulls me aside and tells me to meet him out back. When I walk outside, I notice the barista is standing there looking very nervous. The gorgeous Greek daddy joins us and begins to question us about the night before. Now, I assume he's gonna question us about the bathroom rendezvous, but he never does. He tells us to go home for the day and come back at seven, which felt very ominous. We both arrive around the same time, looking like lambs being led to the slaughterhouse. The door to the back storage building flies open and one of the brothers tells the barista to follow him.

• 7:34Speaker 02

  He's in there for around an hour until finally the door opens and the barista runs off with tears in his eyes. The unbelievably sexy man tells me, "I'm next."

• 7:44Speaker 02

  When we enter the storage shed, it is completely dark with the exception of one light illuminating a chair that sits under it. One of the daddies pushes me forward and asks me to sit. Now, I'm not gonna lie, I was way more turned on than I probably should have been, but they proceeded to question me like a murder suspect for the next thirty minutes. Part of me wanted to say like, "God, we just made out, can y'all chill?" But before I could say another word, one of the owners walks to the light and throws an iPad on my lap. It's very familiar to me because it's the one we use as a register. After giving it a closer look, I notice the screen is covered in cracks. He tells me that the barista has no idea what happened and he's hoping I can shed some light on the situation. I sit in my thoughts for a moment before insisting that I have no idea how this happened and I beg them to believe me.

• 8:27Speaker 02

  After another thirty minutes, I finally leave the dark shed feeling exhausted, but also disappointed that I didn't get to Eiffel Tower with the Greek brothers. The next morning, I called into the office. The brothers are both sitting there looking fine as always as they sit me down and tell me they believe my story and they've decided to fire the barista. I am so excited to hear this and so thankful that I get to keep my job and get to lust over these beautiful men a little longer. I continue my shift and everything goes back to normal. The following months pass and things feel better than ever. But even in the joy of seeing the daddy brothers every day, I still found myself feeling awful about the barista being fired, especially since I'm the one that cracked the iPad.

• 9:11Speaker 00

  I knew it.

• 9:12Speaker 02

  Thank you so much for listening to my gossip and please don't hate me.

• 9:20Speaker 00

  I'm so sorry to, to my producers for having to listen to me scream. I... Oh my God, what a story. Can we just, let's, let's start, let's start with A.

• 9:30Speaker 01

  You are an incredible storyteller.

• 9:32Speaker 00

  Incredible storytelling, beat incredible voice, very soothing. I was locked the fuck in from me. No, literally, do you wanna host normal gossip?

• 9:43Speaker 00

  That was, oh my god. The Greek daddy brothers?

• 9:48Speaker 01

  This was like a Wattpad story that I never.

• 9:51Speaker 00

  Literally, yeah. The reveal at the end.

• 9:56Speaker 01

  The fact that everyone was hot all the time. And also, DTF all the time.

• 10:02Speaker 00

  No, it's really giving the Samurai turned pretty, like.

• 10:06Speaker 01

  But rated R. Yes, yes it is.

• 10:10Speaker 00

  Oh my god, this was beautiful gossip.

• 10:15Speaker 01

  Can we talk about, can we, can we rewind for a second?

• 10:18Speaker 00

  Yes, we can.

• 10:18Speaker 01

  And talk about, like, yes, everyone is hot and this was really engaging and lovely. But those Greek zaddy brothers were definitely like in the Greek mafia, right? Like, there's no way, because how do you, why do you have an interrogation shed?

• 10:33Speaker 00

  In your coffee shop? Why does your coffee shop have an interrogation shed? That is such a good point. Is, there's a Greek mafia?

• 10:41Speaker 01

  No, well, if there is, they're in, I don't know.

• 10:45Speaker 00

  I was like, I didn't know the Greeks were doing it like that.

• 10:48Speaker 01

  Their own form of organized crime.

• 10:50Speaker 00

  And you know what? You're probably right. You're definitely right. They definitely have their own Yakuza. Like, I, that's my, that's my bad for not knowing. Um, no, these Greek daddy brothers were definitely part of the Greek Yakuza. Cause yeah, the single chair under a light bulb in a shed is.

• 11:07Speaker 01

  Like, either that or they've watched too many fucking movies.

• 11:10Speaker 00

  That's a torture tactic. What is this, James Bond? You're running a coffee shop, not a crime ring.

• 11:18Speaker 01

  I also thought it was so funny. I thought that there was gonna be an added reveal of like, the iPad was cracked, but money was stolen? Or something? And it turns out that it was just a cracked iPad? And I'm like, well, a three-year-old could have done that, like.

• 11:29Speaker 00

  No, exactly. That's what happens when your point-of-sale system is glass.

• 11:33Speaker 01

  Right, right.

• 11:35Speaker 00

  Anyone could have broken an iPad. It just falls off the counter. You're working with liquids all day. That feels like a very normal thing to happen. You should have insured your iPad, Greek daddy brothers. That's your own fucking fault.

• 11:48Speaker 01

  I'm really sad that this anonymous caller in didn't, yeah, we're bringing that back, didn't get a chance to have his sexual fantasy with the Greek Zaddy Brothers.

• 11:58Speaker 00

  I'm hoping that's the next voice memo, quite frankly. Cause I, when I heard we were walking into a dark room with one chair and a single light bulb, I heard, "Time to perform for your life." "Time to lip sync for your life, baby."

• 12:17Speaker 01

  Also, the sheer rush, the Wattpad fanfic rush of, "We were alone after closing this coffee shop and he was in the doorway and then he pinned me up against the wall." I was like, "Ho, ho, oh, wow." It's not even 5:00 PM. What's happening?

• 12:34Speaker 00

  Exactly same. I was just like, this is exactly what I thought working in a coffee shop would be like. I had a long held dream as a child to work in a coffee shop and I never have. And now as an adult, I now just think everyone who works at a coffee shop is stronger than the Marines, especially because I say my order wrong every single time and I'm always like, "I'm so sorry." I get the same thing every single time. I don't know why I'm like this. And I'm just, I'm the lesser end of the customer spectrum. It gets worse than that.

• 13:05Speaker 01

  And baristas are canonically hot. Like, I've always had a fantasy of having a little romance with a barista.

• 13:11Speaker 00

  Nadira, let me tell you, the guy who owns the coffee shop near me, I'm pretty sure is A, Italian, B, wears a little gold chain, and C is so hot. Salt, pepper, I, he compliments in my glasses and I was like, "So you love me." You love me.

• 13:29Speaker 01

  This is tea because for those who don't know, we live like a less than 25 minute walk from each other.

• 13:34Speaker 00

  And we will not be saying it one neighborhood for privacy reasons.

• 13:38Speaker 01

  For obvious reasons.

• 13:39Speaker 00

  Yes, exactly.

• 13:40Speaker 01

  And so therefore, I'm, I, I can find, I can go suss this out myself.

• 13:43Speaker 00

  And you should go. And why do you think I'm giving this information?

• 13:47Speaker 01

  And you know what? So you want to get coffee sometime next?

• 13:50Speaker 00

  I would love to.

• 14:00Speaker 00

  I'm gonna admit something embarrassing. I know, shocker. I have not had a bedside lamp for an undisclosed amount of months, long enough that I basically haven't read before bed for a really long time. And I only realized this because I'm hosting a friend and I was like, wow, they deserve to have a light by their bed at night. I don't. But this finally inspired me to find the perfect bedside lamp and I had a vision in mind. Wayfair, they had exactly what I need, which is one of those library style lights with like the green lampshade and little pull cord. I have been having this image in my mind of having one and now I have one because of course Wayfair had it.

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• 16:53Speaker 00

  OK, on to the next. I hope it brings me just as much joy.

• 16:59Speaker 05

  I have a really good friend. His name is [BLEEP]. And he and I absolutely love to look at Nextdoor and screenshot people going crazy about like the usual, dog poop and fireworks. Like, that's the big two. And we've tried to figure out ways we could like have a fake Nextdoor account, which is kind of hard to do and like shitpost control. But we just kind of make ourselves happy by just partaking and commenting in the background because we love that stuff. And I also love revenge. It is our favorite thing to do. And when we go camping with our families, usually everybody is like doing camping stuff and we're sitting off to the side

• 17:44Speaker 05

  plotting revenge plots against people who have, we have perceived to have wronged us. And, you know, it's always like good spirited, but the plots are always like broke. Lives in my neighborhood. And one day, I'm walking my dog with my girlfriend and her dog. And her dog poops. She bags it up and is carrying it. And I was like, Oh, hey, there's ****'s place. Why don't we just drop it off in his garbage can? He won't care. So, um, we go up to his place and then I was like, oh, wait. Look, I can do even better. And he had a brand new Tesla. And so I grabbed the bag of bagged dog poop and put it on the hood of his Tesla.

• 18:29Speaker 05

  And I was actually thinking, I'll circle back around and grab it. Or I need to text him and tell him that it was me. And we go for our walk and I completely forget that this happens. So later on, I'm on Nextdoor and I see that he has posted. And I think I could probably find the post, um, because I screenshotted it. But it was literally something along the lines of, "To whomever placed dog feces on the hood of my Tesla. Do you have something against me in particular? Or is it just Teslas? You know, we are adults here and if you have any grievances, maybe you can talk to me

• 19:14Speaker 05

  instead of throwing poop. And I will have you know that I have recalibrated my security cameras and Tesla camera. So I will catch you." And then that whole thing just blows up. And I am reading with like horror because everyone's just like, oh, my God. What is wrong with this world that we live in now? People are just horrible and **** is like, yeah. He's just going full Nextdoor. And I'm like, oh, shit. And so I let it go on for a while and then I screenshotted and I sent the screenshot to him. And I go, it was me.

• 19:58Speaker 05

  Way to go, Nextdoor! Exclamation point. And he just texts me back, you fucker.

• 20:08Speaker 00

  Okay, um, I feel like, uh, we have multiple places to start, but before we actually get into the voice memo, I must say that when Nadira heard "We Love Revenge," she thought it was, um, referring to the television show, um, which means that I must say that I have seen the first season of Revenge at least three times, but I have never continued past it. That show is batshit crazy. I love every single part of it. Like, why?

• 20:38Speaker 01

  I love it so much.

• 20:39Speaker 00

  They don't make network television like they used to.

• 20:42Speaker 01

  At all. Whoa, at all. And you know what? Someone call us up. We've got ideas, we've got thoughts, we've got feelings.

• 20:48Speaker 00

  The way I watched that show and thought, "I could write this. All we need is a crazy plotline and a black wig."

• 20:56Speaker 01

  Right, right. Exactly, exactly. Um, down to this actual story.

• 21:03Speaker 00

  Yes, uh-huh.

• 21:04Speaker 01

  Not to be, I hate to reduce most things to this, but there is a racial divide.

• 21:11Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 21:13Speaker 01

  That I felt, listening to this, because that is just something, putting poop on your friend's car is just something that not all communities would do.

• 21:22Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 21:22Speaker 01

  Or think is funny.

• 21:23Speaker 00

  No, I would have thought I had been hate-crimed, quite frankly.

• 21:27Speaker 01

  Exactly, exactly.

• 21:29Speaker 00

  Which I do, I want to say, I appreciate hearing about the freedom that other communities have in their pranks, because I'm like, "That sounds so lovely to be able to do whatever you want and not be worried that it's a hate crime." Um, also, the next door of it all is very, I would say, of a specific community. This is

• 21:51Speaker 01

  Yes, that's true.

• 21:52Speaker 00

  No shade, no tea, quite frankly. Like, Nextdoor, I have downloaded exactly once, because I kept seeing these dogs in my backyard that had no collars. And I was like, "These are huskies. These are very clearly expensive dogs. Whose fucking dogs are these? It's raining. Bring them inside. It's Brooklyn." Like, what the hell is going on? And I had it on my phone for maybe four hours. And I immediately was like, haha, bad vibes, horrendous vibes. What's going on here?

• 22:24Speaker 01

  They keep trying to get me to join with their little emails like a cult. And I'm like, no.

• 22:28Speaker 00

  No.

• 22:28Speaker 01

  You shall not get me.

• 22:29Speaker 00

  You won't be getting me.

• 22:30Speaker 01

  You shall not get me.

• 22:31Speaker 00

  You won't be getting me, but I do love the idea of a friendship being formed based on screenshotting other people's next door posts and talking shit about them. That is pretty fucking funny to me because I would love to know which of my neighbors are, um, cuckoo bananas.

• 22:50Speaker 00

  And in New York, it's so hard to figure that out. And I feel like having next door would really, in a neighborhood where I could see where everyone's houses was and like every building didn't house like conservatively 24 people. It would be so nice to be like, that person over there, she is really fucking angry about recycling. I want to know that. That's community.

• 23:15Speaker 01

  Yes, and it's fun and it's gossip, quote unquote. I also love any friendship that's based off of just like people watching or yeah, the sort of fantasy revenge plot.

• 23:27Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 23:27Speaker 01

  I was honestly a little crestfallen when the caller in mentioned their girlfriend because I was hoping, as the hopeless romantic that I am, that I'd be like, oh my God, you're going camping with your friend all the time and you're like coming up with these fake scenarios about all these other people. Like maybe you're in love. No, you're not. You're just friends who like to give each other shit.

• 23:44Speaker 00

  Listen, romance can be platonic.

• 23:47Speaker 01

  And it is, but I was hoping for the romantic kind of romance.

• 23:51Speaker 00

  And that's real. And that's real. You know, what, listen, life is long. We never know what's gonna happen.

• 23:57Speaker 01

  And you know what? You're so right. And this is how delusional people stay delusional because their friends don't hold them accountable and instead.

• 24:05Speaker 00

  No.

• 24:05Speaker 01

  Put fire to their fantasies.

• 24:06Speaker 00

  It's called leaving room for the baggy areas of life. You know, no one ever knows what's gonna happen. Life is long. I say it all the time.

• 24:17Speaker 01

  I love the idea that this friend has sort of like radicalized their friend into becoming one of the Nextdoor people that they laugh about all the time.

• 24:26Speaker 00

  I do. Yeah, they really did. Is he gonna continue posting on Nextdoor now? Like, did he update the Nextdoor people on what happened, or did he just let them spin out?

• 24:36Speaker 01

  That's so funny. I do, yeah, I want an addendum to this story. I also think it's hilarious that he was like, um, "Do you hate Teslas and Elon Musk, or do you hate me?"

• 24:47Speaker 00

  He's like, "One of those is acceptable. The other one, hit me up in the comments below."

• 24:51Speaker 01

  Because I would be the same. I would be like, "Do you hate my car? Or do you hate me?"

• 24:56Speaker 00

  "Please don't hate me. I'm just a little guy."

• 24:59Speaker 01

  Like, "What did I do wrong? I'm just a girl."

• 25:01Speaker 00

  Yeah, no, it's so true. I would not... That is really funny. He's like, "Come talk to me directly if you have issues with me. Otherwise, let's be adults about this."

• 25:11Speaker 01

  I also love the Game of Thrones, like, "Tell Cersei I want her to know it was me" ending. That was fun.

• 25:16Speaker 00

  That was, that was really great. I really appreciated that she let him go through all of that and then was like, "Hello."

• 25:26Speaker 00

  I did it. Wow, beautiful self gossip. Um, I love neighborhood drama. I'm never gonna look at a bag of dog poop the same.

• 25:36Speaker 01

  No, never. Though, it's, I don't look at them often. But, but...

• 25:41Speaker 00

  Yeah, exactly.

• 25:42Speaker 01

  "I will never look at them the same again" is correct.

• 25:44Speaker 00

  Next!

• 25:47Speaker 06

  So, I used to work in broadcast commercials, and we had like a ton of interns coming in and out. Um, I started as an intern, and then there's this like promise of moving up to the shipping department, and then the apprentice department, and then becoming an assistant editor. And it would take years, and it was, and, and everybody worked all night, all the time, and there was like beer on tap in the office. So, we were drinking together all the time and going out, and it just was like a very, um, gross company culture where everyone was sleeping together, very, very prone to gossip, of course. Um, and we, one year, got an intern, and she was fine. She was like a little snooty about having to like

• 26:32Speaker 06

  do the intern duties, which included like taking out the trash sometimes, or like cleaning the kitchen. Uh, we were all just like, girl, you have to do this. Sorry. Like, we did it. I did it. I'm training you how to do it. Get over it. Um, but whatever. Relatively uneventful internship. She, her internship ends and she gets hired, we hear, at um, one of our vendors. So when we finish editing a commercial, it would go to the color people who are, you know, it's a whole other company. Um, and they would color correct the, the, the commercial. So she gets hired there as a receptionist and the boss there, who we know, because we're there all the time, is like, oh, we're so excited to have [BLEEP].

• 27:16Speaker 06

  She, uh, you know, her resume had you guys on it and that's why we hired her and like, she's great. We love her. We were like, oh, so cool. So cool. And then like rumblings start kind of going around our company. Uh, when you get to go to like a color session, it was like really exciting and it was like, kind of like a sign of like moving up because you're like responsible and you can like be the face of the company. And um, you got to have lunch with the clients and just like sit there all day. It was great. So it was always very exciting when you got to go. And then people would come back and you'd be like, how was the color session? And they'd be like, ah, good, but [BLEEP] like didn't say hi to me. Like, how rude. And then someone else being like, oh, I was there yesterday and she was so nice to me. She

• 27:57Speaker 06

  remembered me and she said hi and blah, blah. And then I remember finally going and seeing this woman behind the receptionist desk and I was like, that's not [BLEEP]. Turns out [BLEEP] has a twin sister, no joke, and [BLEEP] apparently got the job and didn't want it. And her sister wanted to break into the business but had no experience. The way we found this out was because during one of these like crazy industry parties that that color company was throwing, we were talking to the boss who loved [BLEEP] so much. And we were like, we noticed that she was gone. She hadn't been there in a while. And we were like, oh, so how's it going with [BLEEP]?

• 28:39Speaker 06

  And he was like, oh, don't even get me started. And we were like, oh shit, did you figure it out? And he was like, what do you mean, did we figure it out? Did you guys know this whole time? We were like, no, no, no, we just, we, we, we figured it out like last week and we weren't sure and whatever. But then his story was that she had left her Facebook page open and other coworkers like saw it and reported her, basically. And then he called her into a conference room and was like, tell me what your name is. And her response was my real name. Uh, they didn't press charges, but they did fire her.

• 29:20Speaker 06

  And the really sad thing is that her boss was like, she was the best receptionist that we've ever had.

• 29:28Speaker 01

  Okay, okay, I know that allegedly crimes were done here, but I must say, I am on the side of the twin sisters here. I think they were right. Pause. Every, if you have a twin, these are the types of shenanigans.

• 29:44Speaker 06

  Exactly.

• 29:45Speaker 01

  Everyone who has a twin, an identical twin and hasn't pulled like a Suite Life of Zack and Cody ass heist or crime or con like this, get to the back. This is not, this is, you're wasting your God given opportunity.

• 29:59Speaker 00

  This is the only justification for adult identical twins because otherwise, I'm not gonna lie, they kind of freaked me out. They, they kind of freaked me out. I'm, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Whenever I see an adult identical twin, I'm like, that's against nature.

• 30:17Speaker 01

  The hijinks.

• 30:18Speaker 00

  The hijinks, the shenanigans.

• 30:20Speaker 01

  If there were two of me? Oh, oh baby, I'm so twin, I'm so twin down. Like I'm so, I'm on their side.

• 30:27Speaker 00

  No, literally same, literally same. From the beginning, when first twin said, I, why am I cleaning up garbage? Why am I taking out the garbage and cleaning the kitchen as an intern at a broadcasting company? That's not the job of an intern. That's the job of a paid person. You didn't also, was this internship paid? No one ever said. Um, so that's A. I agree with her for being like.

• 30:49Speaker 01

  We love a socialist twin.

• 30:50Speaker 00

  Why are we doing this? This is not our job.

• 30:54Speaker 01

  Right.

• 30:54Speaker 00

  That's A. B, the absolutely iconic behavior of landing a job, thinking, actually don't want to do this. And then being like, you know who does though? My twin sister. And then the twin sister subbing in and being incredible at her job. If I was the boss, I would have simply laughed and said, all right, you should stay.

• 31:15Speaker 01

  And hire her.

• 31:15Speaker 00

  No, exactly.

• 31:17Speaker 01

  Wow, that's great. I also love the, the very dramatic version of, you mean my real name? Yes, you better milk that moment.

• 31:26Speaker 00

  Like, she knew it was coming. She's been thinking about it for months. She said, there's no way that I can keep this going for the rest of my life. Cause at some point, they're gonna figure it out. Actually, I, I feel like I'm okay thinking she left her Facebook page open on purpose. I think she was tired of living a double life.

• 31:41Speaker 01

  Right.

• 31:41Speaker 00

  She got her however many months check and she was like, all right, cool, I'm good.

• 31:45Speaker 01

  Right. She was built for the stage. What can I say?

• 31:48Speaker 00

  No, literally both of them. I, you know what? I might revise my opinion on adult twins now. Because these two are absolutely doing it up. It's giving parent trap. Like, it's giving Lindsay Lohan. It's giving like,

• 32:08Speaker 00

  two of us.

• 32:10Speaker 01

  I love that those are the only twins you can name.

• 32:19Speaker 00

  Next.

• 32:22Speaker 07

  I'm so excited to share a little bit of gossip from the niche world in which I used to work. I used to work in automotive museums and for automotive event companies. And this is a gossip about my most recent stint at a automotive museum, where we were putting on a show all about, you know, insert American automobile sports car here. So it's all about that sports car. And one of the donors said, hey, You can use my car as a photo op. We said, "That's awesome." So, we get the car set up. It's about the third weekend that the show's open.

• 33:06Speaker 07

  I have a staff member staffed over there to help open the door and help people take pictures and kind of, you know, control it because it is still a donor's car. But he's also having to man this other area of the museum. It's not as popular, but still, sometimes people go over there. And it's kind of a busy weekend. He comes and checks in at the end of his shift and he said, "Hey, the glove box of the photo op car won't close." And I'm like, "That's weird." And he goes, "Also, there's a knife." I was like, "What?" Uh, I go over to the car. Sure enough, the glove box is open. We can't get it to latch closed.

• 33:49Speaker 07

  And I said, "Well, where's the knife? Like, is it a guest's knife? Whose knife is it?" He goes, "Oh, no, it fell out of the glove box. A kid was in there taking a photo with his mom. And I guess he opened the glove box and it fell into his lap." And I was like, "Oh, fuck." And so, I, he, you know, he had the staff member, not knowing what to do, but also not wanting to carry around this pretty large pocket knife. Um, he had put it in the center console of the vehicle.

• 34:25Speaker 07

  And, and then just, you know, had said, "Sorry, no, no photo ops uh, for the next fifteen minutes." And so, I take the knife, I lock it in my office. And we still have to deal with the glove box. The glove box is still not latching. We do not own this vehicle. We're like, "We have to, we have to get this latch because we know that the donor's bringing his family by the next day."

• 34:50Speaker 07

  So, we quickly hop on the internet. We find the latch piece for that vehicle. Luckily, it was not, uh, yet considered too much of an antique. It was a plastic part. We overhired it. We replace it. We come in early. We replace it, make sure it latches, make sure it's the same color, works, everything. And we never tell the donor. The rest of the show goes fine. And we return the vehicle in perfect condition. Um, with his knife, we turn to the glove box the day that he comes to pick it up.

• 35:24Speaker 01

  Oh my God. So we never find out anything about this knife? Is this another member of community-based organized crime?

• 35:30Speaker 00

  Is he Greek too? I'm not trying to do hate crimes against the Greeks. I'm just curious.

• 35:37Speaker 01

  Donating, being a rich person and donating your luxury sports car, knowing that there's a knife in the glove box is really, I'm trying to put my, my mind in, in the mind, in the body of the person who donated their car. And I'm just like, did you forget? Did you, did you think that a glove box couldn't be open? Because it wasn't locked. You know, sometimes you can lock a glove box. It clearly wasn't locked. And so what, what, I'm not going to question why the knife, because it's a pocket knife. I feel as though.

• 36:12Speaker 00

  I mean, apparently pretty big.

• 36:14Speaker 01

  Yeah, but I'm also kind of like, what does a big pocket knife even mean? You know, to each their own.

• 36:18Speaker 00

  Okay, sure. Why not? I was, I was much more stuck on the knife than you are, but maybe that's just me.

• 36:25Speaker 01

  Well, let's talk about it because I'm just kind of like, well, I've seen pocket knives of all sizes. This is.

• 36:31Speaker 00

  Oh, have you?

• 36:33Speaker 01

  Yeah, I've seen pocket knives of all sizes. I feel like everyone knows at least one male who's super into knives for some reason. Do you not know a male who's super into knives?

• 36:42Speaker 00

  I don't think I do. Maybe they just haven't revealed it to me. Maybe they just haven't told me about how into knives they are because I don't give that kind of accepting spirit, but.

• 36:52Speaker 01

  My dad is super into knives and so is one of my friends.

• 36:55Speaker 00

  Is he?

• 36:55Speaker 01

  And so I feel it, yeah.

• 36:58Speaker 01

  And so I feel like, I feel as though, yeah, I feel as though, you know, I'm, I'm, I'm abreast of, you know, the type of person who's like, oh my God, sick knife.

• 37:07Speaker 00

  Yeah. Okay. I think I'm more used to like sword guys than I am knife guys, you know?

• 37:12Speaker 01

  What?

• 37:13Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 37:14Speaker 01

  And you don't think that's weirder?

• 37:15Speaker 00

  Well, no, because you can use the sword as a decorative object. You're not putting your knife, you're not displaying your knife.

• 37:25Speaker 01

  Yeah, I do want to know what categorizes a pocket knife. Like, because a pocket knife fits into your pocket.

• 37:30Speaker 00

  That's what I'm, how big can it be?

• 37:32Speaker 01

  Exactly. That's, that's, I need more details about this knife, actually. Was it clean?

• 37:37Speaker 00

  That's, I also was thinking you were gonna tell me there was blood on it. Like, um, I will say that when you said the knife fell into the lap of a child, my first thought, and this goes to show both my age and how long I've been on the internet. You know that video, probably a Vine, of that kid where someone's like, "What do you have in your hand?" And it's a kid running around and he's like, "A knife!" And then his mom's like, "No!" That's exact, I was like, "So this kid has a knife." Okay, that's what I thought.

• 38:06Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's such, that's such a good point. I imagine being that parent, though, and you're at this, your kid loves cars. And so you go to this car show and you're like, "Whoa."

• 38:15Speaker 00

  You can get inside the car.

• 38:17Speaker 01

  Photos in the car. So imagine you're just like in this car and taking photos. And all of a sudden, like-

• 38:21Speaker 00

  The glove box pops open.

• 38:23Speaker 01

  And a knife falls into their lap.

• 38:26Speaker 00

  In a vintage car, my immediate thought is, "James Bond, motherfucker. What crimes happened in this car? And is my DNA now on a crime scene?"

• 38:34Speaker 01

  My immediate thought is organized crime.

• 38:38Speaker 00

  I mean, I think we're two peas in a pod there. It's like, what, what, what, what have I seen? What am I a part of?

• 38:44Speaker 01

  Yeah, what am I now a part of? Who is now coming for me?

• 38:46Speaker 00

  Exactly.

• 38:47Speaker 01

  And my young, very adorable child, my twin child, one of my twins.

• 38:52Speaker 00

  Must be a twin.

• 38:53Speaker 01

  Must be a twin.

• 39:06Speaker 04

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• 39:51Speaker 00

  Let's go on to the next.

• 39:55Speaker 03

  I want to gossip about my friend's first weekend away with her boyfriend. So she's been dating her boyfriend for like two months. They decide to take a little risk and go away for the weekend. Kind of low stakes, just a couple nights away at a cute little cabin. It's got a hot tub they're gonna sit out under the stars. It's gonna be very romantic. And she wakes up the morning of their trip with a double ear infection. So she frickin' pops back like a million painkillers for this double ear infection because she's like, "I'm going on this trip." She briefly tells her boyfriend about it, but doesn't wanna make a big deal out of it because she's trying to make a good impression and trying to be very chill.

• 40:38Speaker 03

  They get to the place, it's beautiful, they start drinking. The combination of the painkillers with the alcohol makes her tummy very upset and she has to go shit her brains out in the bathroom. The toilet clogs. She does have to tell him about it because this is an Airbnb and she cannot get it to unclog. So already the vibes are horrible and she's like, "I'm actually really trying to play down this double ear infection. I don't think I can go on the hike tomorrow." So he's like, "That's okay, we'll go on a nice walk on the pier." So she goes to be a good sport, she's embarrassed about the night before. They go for a nice walk along the pier, really cute, he's taking photos of her.

• 41:20Speaker 03

  She's twirling around, being very dramatic and cutesy for the photos. Her phone flies out of her pocket as she's twirling for the photos and slow motion slides across the pier and into the ocean. Now, the phone is deep enough that you're like, "I'm not going in there." Also, this is like in January. But it is shallow enough that they're like... We could get it. It's just at that sweet spot. And so she's like, let's go, let's go. So they go to the beach. They strip down. It's like kinda hot, kinda fun, kinda giggling. Cause they're like, ooh, cheeky, I'm seeing you strip down this beach. They go into the ocean.

• 42:06Speaker 03

  They're dying. They don't last more than one minute, cause they're like, I'm actually gonna perish. She's like, in no financial position to buy a new phone. So she is like, really holding back tears. They go back. She hops in the hot tub. She's having a little bit of an existential crisis. And then he comes back out and says, hey, I booked you a wetsuit.

• 42:35Speaker 03

  Sorry? I booked you a wetsuit, so that you can search the ocean. And she's like, why aren't you getting in the wetsuit? And he's like, it's your phone. I'll be there to encourage you. First of all, I want to know what the guest's thoughts are on this. Red flag, green flag? So they go, she gets suited up. She goes back to the spot by the pier. At this point, it's been like at least an hour and a half to two hours. The phone has been at the bottom of the ocean. She gets into the ocean, much better in the wetsuit, much better in the wetsuit. She's searching, she's searching, she's not finding anything.

• 43:20Speaker 03

  Like an angel from the heavens, a mysterious man is like, what are you looking for? And she says, I'm looking for my phone. I dropped it off the pier. And he goes, what time did you drop it? She said, I don't know, maybe perhaps 11 a.m. He like licks his finger, like a man from old lore. And like calculates the wind. And he's like, with the current, I do believe your phone should be right around. He takes like nine to 10 strides down the pier and like points down. And she goes over there, lo and behold, there's the phone. She picks it up, it's still working, it's still on.

• 44:05Speaker 03

  She like celebrates with the boyfriend. They are still together to this day. This trip actually brought them together despite all the disasters.

• 44:20Speaker 01

  Girl, girly pop, there are so many other things. You can postpone a trip with a double ear infection. We need not, we need not go through all of that.

• 44:30Speaker 00

  A trip with water-based activities.

• 44:33Speaker 01

  And like altitude.

• 44:35Speaker 00

  Why are you getting water?

• 44:37Speaker 01

  Like things that.

• 44:38Speaker 00

  Your infected ears.

• 44:40Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 44:40Speaker 00

  Also, go to the fucking urgent care, they will give you an antibiotic real fast.

• 44:45Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah. I'm, well, you know, I don't know what the financial situation is.

• 44:50Speaker 00

  No, you're right, actually, she did say she was not in a financial situation to get a new phone. So that's really fair.

• 44:55Speaker 01

  We don't know if she has insurance.

• 44:56Speaker 00

  That's so fair, that's so fair.

• 44:59Speaker 01

  I do get that, but also, you, first of all, you really need to be careful with painkillers, especially with what you're eating, especially if you're taking a lot. But you also just didn't need to go on the trip, baby girl, it's okay. Next time, you know, we, we know this now. I too have been on a trip with friends, not a romantic partner, with friends, where I have had to embarrassingly, like I'm in an Airbnb and I have had to take a shit. And I've had to, and I've clogged the toilet and it won't unclog. And I've had to like, yeah, it's not fun. It's like, we laugh about it now.

• 45:31Speaker 00

  It's my worst fear.

• 45:32Speaker 01

  But I can, I can just, I just wanted to say that to say I relate. And, you know, salute to my sister. That's not a fun experience to be in. And I couldn't even imagine if it wasn't just close friends instead of a romantic partner. And so I do, I do empathize with you there.

• 45:47Speaker 00

  Two months.

• 45:48Speaker 01

  Yes, yes, early romantic partner.

• 45:53Speaker 01

  If my phone dropped into the sea and I needed to go get it because I wasn't in a financial place to buy a new one. And my romantic partner of two months said, I booked you a wetsuit and not us wetsuits.

• 46:15Speaker 01

  Yeah, no, I don't know if we would still be. And I'm happy for you. I'm so happy for you that you're still together and that it's happy and that this brought you closer. I would not be that, though. I would be very weirded out because it's just kind of like, it would be one thing if maybe this person is afraid of the ocean or has a fear of swimming or whatever, but they clearly got into the ocean with them earlier on to help them find it before the wetsuit.

• 46:42Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 46:43Speaker 01

  And so it's like, well, what is the difference now? You just didn't want to do it.

• 46:45Speaker 00

  No, exactly. It's, I don't like that part. I don't like that part. I don't like that he didn't book himself a wetsuit instead of her because if I was on a trip.

• 46:57Speaker 01

  Or both of us.

• 46:58Speaker 00

  May, maybe.

• 46:59Speaker 01

  Why am I doing it alone?

• 47:00Speaker 00

  Maybe he only had enough money for one wetsuit. I'mma give him that. I'mma, I'mma, I'mma be nice on that. But if I was on a trip with my recent girlfriend who told me she has a double ear infection, I would simply think, you know what? Let me go out into the ocean for her.

• 47:19Speaker 01

  Did he know that she had a double ear infection?

• 47:22Speaker 00

  Yeah, she said, she mentioned it. She's like, my double, yeah, she had already talked to me about it. I'm like, I'm sorry.

• 47:27Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's crazy. I forgot that she had, that's even crazier. I like that even less now.

• 47:31Speaker 00

  Exactly. I'm like, what's wrong with you? Like, on one hand, it is, I, it's, the action is very incomprehensible to me. Because on one hand, getting a wetsuit is actually a really smart idea. I would not have thought about that. I would have simply been like, it's lost to the ocean and I will no longer be able to communicate with anybody, oh no.

• 47:53Speaker 00

  But buying a wet suit, it does make sense that you can do that near a beach. That I like now if I ever drop anything, I will look for a wet suit. But on one hand, consider it. On the other hand, why did you send her in there by herself?

• 48:06Speaker 01

  Self, that's crazy.

• 48:08Speaker 00

  And then we must talk about the mystical water fairy.

• 48:13Speaker 01

  I love.

• 48:14Speaker 00

  Oh, God. Emerged out of nowhere and licked his finger and held it up to the wind and said, "Your phone should be right about here based on the current." What kind of, she should have married him.

• 48:27Speaker 01

  Him, that's where I thought this was. No, Rachel, I legitimately thought that that's where the story was going. I was like, oh my God, and so she ended up with him. But she didn't, it's fine. I love, this is such a spiritual, whatever, whatever thing. But do you ever have those moments in life where you have an interaction with someone else or an encounter with someone else? And you feel like you were here to help me?

• 48:48Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 48:49Speaker 01

  Because my ancestors or someone up on high was like, this girl needs to either get her shit together or she needs some help or she needs a shoulder to cry on.

• 48:58Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 48:59Speaker 01

  And it's like you just meet these strangers and they deliver you like information or help that just feels so serendipitous that it can't be a coincidence, right? This is one of those moments.

• 49:12Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 49:12Speaker 01

  Someone was looking out for your friend who had dropped her phone into the ocean. And someone, I don't know if it's an ancestor or whoever, but someone was looking out for her and someone sent this very kind mystical man to her aid. And I love that for her. I love these sort of moments in life. They're so spicy, they make, they make life special, but they're also a little scary when you're in them.

• 49:34Speaker 00

  No, exactly. It's like, where did you come from? Exactly. If a man held his finger up to the wind, I would be like, I'm sorry. What? Like in my man, this man looks like Hosier, can't tell you why.

• 49:47Speaker 01

  Well, no wonder you wanted her to marry him.

• 49:49Speaker 00

  I just wonder if this man continued to be in corporeal form once her phone was found.

• 49:57Speaker 01

  Right.

• 49:57Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 49:58Speaker 01

  Disappear. It's like she gets it. She's like, oh, my God, it's still working. And she turns around and she's like, where did he go?

• 50:03Speaker 00

  That's what I'm picturing.

• 50:05Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 50:06Speaker 00

  Um, that's incredible. It's also gonna be really funny if someone's just like, this is just the knowledge that someone would have if they sailed, which is probably true, but to me, this feels like mystical lost knowledge that is simply not to be held by humans.

• 50:21Speaker 01

  I agree. I agree. I want to go to a small seaside town and have this happen to me. Not all the horrible parts, but just the encounter with a magical mystical man who knows a nautical wind.

• 50:31Speaker 00

  No, literally.

• 50:32Speaker 01

  I would love that.

• 50:33Speaker 00

  I must bring it back to one of my very first points, which is I know that when you're buying a phone, you're like, this is a big expense. Just pay the extra for the insurance.

• 50:43Speaker 01

  Yeah, for sure.

• 50:44Speaker 00

  Just pay a little bit extra for the insurance. It's all like, just it's like when it's like when you go out, you should include the 20% in the tip, the 20% tip in your food. Otherwise, you can't actually afford to go out.

• 50:55Speaker 01

  Out.

• 50:55Speaker 00

  It's the same with the phone. Just include the insurance. You're gonna, you're gonna want it. You're gonna want to use it. Just buy the insurance.

• 51:02Speaker 01

  Or like me when I'm going to the airport, because I know I'm not taking public transportation. So I need to add in a hundred.

• 51:06Speaker 00

  Exactly.

• 51:07Speaker 01

  An extra $120 because it's 60 there and 60 back.

• 51:10Speaker 00

  Exactly. Add that into the plane ticket. No, literally. It's exactly like that. It's, no, it's just, it's smart.

• 51:17Speaker 01

  You're right. You're so right. It's just that women are in STEM. It's girl math, but these girls are in STEM.

• 51:23Speaker 00

  Exactly. It's recognizing who you are. And if you're someone who might drop their phone, I'm talking about me, to be clear. I broke many phones before they became more resistant to being dropped. Um, then that's why I always have the insurance.

• 51:34Speaker 01

  I do love having insurance.

• 51:36Speaker 00

  I love having insurance.

• 51:37Speaker 01

  It does make me feel more secure.

• 51:39Speaker 00

  It really, it really does.

• 51:40Speaker 01

  I'm really happy that this couple is still together.

• 51:42Speaker 00

  I guess.

• 51:42Speaker 01

  I'm also, I will, I will never forget this. In fact, I will always be thinking about that, that time that I heard that story about that one guy who let his girlfriend of two months go into an ocean alone with a double ear infection. After she had already shit her brains out the previous evening and was feeling awful to go find her phone alone and just with the help of one mystical man. I will never forget this.

• 52:09Speaker 00

  Maybe the boyfriend who rented the wet suit is actually a fairy. But he knew he couldn't reveal his true form to her. And so he said, I have to get her the wet suit to get her away from me. And then I will, I will emerge in my true form to help her. That makes this story feel better to me.

• 52:31Speaker 01

  So true. I also love the slight shade that I think the caller in also thinks that it's a red flag because they specifically stopped.

• 52:39Speaker 00

  They asked us, they were just like, is that a red flag? Yes, confirm. We can confirm. That's a red flag. Yes, girl.

• 52:45Speaker 01

  But I wish them all the best.

• 52:46Speaker 00

  You know what? Sure. Long life, prosperous, whatever. Thank you so much for this gossip. Thank you, Nadira. This was another great episode. I'm gonna be thinking about a lot of these things. The Greek mafia, the water fairy,

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  automotive museums.

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  The knife. How big was the knife?

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  The knife!

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  I'm gonna, this has given me some food for thought.

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  As always, thanks for having me. I will do this anytime you ask, literally anytime.

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