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0:44 Speaker 03 OK, so I know you've been looking at a ton of articles about tattoos in the workplace.
0:49 Speaker 04 Yeah.
0:49 Speaker 03 And, you know, at first I thought, oh, someone's getting ready for a big job interview.
0:54 Speaker 04 Right.
0:54 Speaker 03 But I know it's more than just about getting the job, right? You're going deeper than that.
0:58 Speaker 04 Oh, you know me way too well.
0:59 Speaker 03 I do, I do.
1:00 Speaker 04 Yeah, this deep dive is about like how society sees tattoos these days.
1:05 Speaker 03 OK.
1:05 Speaker 04 Especially when it comes to professional settings. So we're looking at personal stories.
1:09 Speaker 03 Right.
1:10 Speaker 04 Academic research. We've got workplace surveys, kind of the whole mix.
1:13 Speaker 03 Wow.
1:14 Speaker 04 And you know, it's fascinating.
1:16 Speaker 03 What?
1:16 Speaker 04 It's not a simple yay or nay on tattoos.
1:21 Speaker 03 You're telling me.
1:21 Speaker 04 It's way more complicated than that.
1:23 Speaker 03 Yeah, I was surprised by how many different opinions are out there. Like, it's making me rethink some of my own assumptions.
1:29 Speaker 04 Totally.
1:29 Speaker 03 Yeah, yeah. I have to be honest with you. I've always wondered, like, have you ever thought about whether having a tattoo could actually be a good thing in the workplace?
1:38 Speaker 04 Oh, yeah.
1:39 Speaker 03 Not a bad thing.
1:40 Speaker 04 It's a question that, like, more and more employers are asking. Yeah. It's a question that a lot of people who have tattoos, who want to get tattoos, are asking.
1:49 Speaker 03 Right.
1:49 Speaker 04 The whole landscape is shifting.
1:51 Speaker 03 OK.
1:51 Speaker 04 For one thing, tattoos are so much more common now.
1:54 Speaker 03 Oh, yeah.
1:55 Speaker 04 Did you know that like nearly half of all Americans have tattoos?
1:58 Speaker 03 Wow, really?
2:00 Speaker 04 It's true, forty-six percent.
2:01 Speaker 03 Forty-six percent? That's like almost every other person you see.
2:05 Speaker 04 Almost, yeah. It's a lot, and it's especially if you look at millennials and Gen Z.
2:09 Speaker 03 Right.
2:10 Speaker 04 The number's even higher.
2:11 Speaker 03 It really makes you realize that this isn't just some passing trend.
2:15 Speaker 04 No, not at all.
2:16 Speaker 03 This is like a...
2:17 Speaker 04 It's a thing.
2:17 Speaker 03 Yeah, a thing.
2:18 Speaker 04 It's a reflection of like deeper changes in our values, you know?
2:22 Speaker 03 Yeah, okay.
2:23 Speaker 04 People want to express their individuality, they want to stand out.
2:26 Speaker 03 Yeah.
2:26 Speaker 04 It's almost like a challenge to how things have always been done.
2:30 Speaker 03 And that's what makes it interesting to me because, you know, even if I don't have tattoos,
2:34 Speaker 04 Uh huh.
2:35 Speaker 03 it affects how we all judge each other, right?
2:37 Speaker 04 Oh, absolutely.
2:37 Speaker 03 So like how are workplaces adapting?
2:41 Speaker 04 Right.
2:41 Speaker 03 Or maybe not adapting to this change?
2:44 Speaker 04 Yeah, it's definitely having an impact, and this is where the research gets kind of tricky.
2:48 Speaker 03 Oh, really?
2:49 Speaker 04 Yeah, because some studies say tattoos don't hurt your chances of getting hired at all.
2:53 Speaker 03 Okay.
2:53 Speaker 04 But then other studies say that they totally do.
2:56 Speaker 03 So which is it?
2:57 Speaker 04 That's the thing, it's not so clear.
2:58 Speaker 03 Okay.
2:59 Speaker 04 Yeah, so it's enough to make your head spin, honestly.
3:01 Speaker 03 So one minute I'm reading this study from the University of Miami.
3:04 Speaker 04 Okay.
3:05 Speaker 03 And they say there's no link between tattoos and getting a job. Then the next thing I know, I'm reading a study from Colorado State University, and they're saying tattooed applicants,
3:16 Speaker 04 Yeah.
3:17 Speaker 03 especially those with larger tattoos, were less likely to get hired.
3:22 Speaker 04 Interesting.
3:23 Speaker 03 Yeah, so what are we supposed to make of all this conflicting evidence?
3:26 Speaker 04 Well, it's definitely not as simple as a yes or no answer, right?
3:29 Speaker 03 Right.
3:29 Speaker 04 And so if you look closely at that Colorado State University study.
3:33 Speaker 03 Okay.
3:34 Speaker 04 They were focused on applicant selection for roles where you're working directly with customers.
3:40 Speaker 03 Okay.
3:40 Speaker 04 So like face to face.
3:41 Speaker 03 I see.
3:41 Speaker 04 So it's possible that, you know, certain industries or specific types of jobs
3:45 Speaker 03 Yeah.
3:46 Speaker 04 might be a little more sensitive to visible tattoos.
3:48 Speaker 03 Yeah.
3:48 Speaker 04 At least for now.
3:49 Speaker 03 Right, right, that makes sense.
3:50 Speaker 04 But what's interesting is that, like that University of Miami study.
3:53 Speaker 03 Yeah.
3:53 Speaker 04 They surveyed a really broad range of professions, it wasn't so narrow.
3:58 Speaker 03 Okay.
3:59 Speaker 04 So we really need to look at the bigger picture.
4:01 Speaker 03 Yeah.
4:02 Speaker 04 And consider the context of each of these studies.
4:04 Speaker 03 That's a really good point, yeah. It's like, research isn't always one size fits all, right?
4:09 Speaker 04 Exactly.
4:10 Speaker 03 There's so many different factors.
4:11 Speaker 04 Totally.
4:12 Speaker 03 But, okay, let's say you do get the job.
4:14 Speaker 04 Uh huh.
4:14 Speaker 03 There's still the question of how you're treated, once you're in.
4:18 Speaker 04 Right.
4:18 Speaker 03 Right?
4:19 Speaker 04 Absolutely. We can't just like, stop at the hiring process.
4:22 Speaker 03 Right.
4:23 Speaker 04 Because the experience of being a tattooed person in the workplace.
4:26 Speaker 03 Yeah.
4:27 Speaker 04 It goes way deeper than that.
4:29 Speaker 03 It does. We found a story about a woman who was actually afraid to show her tattoos to her employer.
4:35 Speaker 04 Oh wow.
4:36 Speaker 03 Can you imagine, like, feeling like you have to hide a part of yourself?
4:40 Speaker 04 Yeah.
4:40 Speaker 03 Just to fit in?
4:41 Speaker 04 Yeah, it's a reality for so many people.
4:44 Speaker 03 Right.
4:45 Speaker 04 And, it's not just those with tattoos.
4:47 Speaker 03 Right.
4:48 Speaker 04 Think about people with what we call invisible marginalized identities.
4:53 Speaker 03 Okay.
4:54 Speaker 04 Maybe they're part of the LGBTQ plus community.
4:56 Speaker 03 Right.
4:57 Speaker 04 Or maybe they have a disability that isn't obvious right away.
5:00 Speaker 03 Oh, that's interesting, yeah.
5:02 Speaker 04 It's kind of a shared experience, I think.
5:03 Speaker 03 Yeah.
5:04 Speaker 04 This pressure to conform, to keep certain parts of yourself hidden.
5:08 Speaker 03 Right, to not be judged.
5:09 Speaker 04 Exactly, to avoid being judged or discriminated against.
5:12 Speaker 03 It's something to be more aware of.
5:13 Speaker 04 Yeah, in all aspects of life.
5:16 Speaker 03 Not just the workplace.
5:17 Speaker 04 Exactly, but on a more positive note.
5:19 Speaker 03 Okay.
5:19 Speaker 04 Some of what we've been reading has actually highlighted the advantages.
5:23 Speaker 03 Okay.
5:24 Speaker 04 Of hiring people with tattoos.
5:26 Speaker 03 Oh really? Advantages, now that's interesting.
5:28 Speaker 04 It is interesting.
5:29 Speaker 03 Yeah, tell me more.
5:30 Speaker 04 Yeah, it's a perspective that I think more people are starting to embrace.
5:35 Speaker 03 Okay.
5:35 Speaker 04 And there's even like, research emerging now.
5:37 Speaker 03 Yeah.
5:37 Speaker 04 That supports this idea that tattoos can actually be a positive indicator in the workplace.
5:43 Speaker 03 Now that's got me curious. What kind of advantages are we talking about?
5:47 Speaker 04 Well, one of the sources we looked at was from this person.
5:50 Speaker 03 Okay.
5:51 Speaker 04 Who has a lot of tattoos, and they've worked in all kinds of settings.
5:54 Speaker 03 Okay.
5:55 Speaker 04 And their perspective was really interesting.
5:58 Speaker 03 Okay.
5:58 Speaker 04 They were arguing that having tattoos can actually show dedication and commitment.
6:03 Speaker 03 Really? I never thought of it that way.
6:06 Speaker 04 Yeah, it's not the first thing that comes to mind, I know.
6:08 Speaker 03 How so? I don't really see the connection.
6:10 Speaker 04 Well, they pointed out that... You know, if you want to get good tattoos, like high-quality tattoos.
6:17 Speaker 03 Yeah.
6:18 Speaker 04 It takes time, it costs money, and it takes a lot of planning.
6:21 Speaker 03 That's true.
6:22 Speaker 04 It's not a decision that people make lightly.
6:24 Speaker 03 No, it's not like just running out to the store and, you know, picking up a T-shirt.
6:28 Speaker 04 Right, exactly.
6:28 Speaker 03 You're really making a commitment to having that on your body for life.
6:31 Speaker 04 Exactly, yeah.
6:32 Speaker 03 Okay.
6:32 Speaker 04 And there's also like the element of resilience.
6:34 Speaker 03 Oh, okay.
6:35 Speaker 04 Because getting tattooed, it can be uncomfortable, it can be painful, even.
6:39 Speaker 03 Right.
6:39 Speaker 04 It takes a certain level of like mental and physical toughness to go through that.
6:44 Speaker 03 Right, it's like you're wearing your ability to handle challenges.
6:48 Speaker 04 Yes.
6:48 Speaker 03 On your sleeve or wherever you have the tattoo.
6:50 Speaker 04 Exactly, that's a powerful message.
6:52 Speaker 03 It is powerful.
6:53 Speaker 04 Yeah.
6:53 Speaker 03 And it's not just anecdotal evidence.
6:55 Speaker 04 Right.
6:56 Speaker 03 Like, psychological studies are starting to explore this link between body modification.
7:01 Speaker 04 Right.
7:02 Speaker 03 Like tattoos and piercings and certain personality traits.
7:06 Speaker 04 Wow.
7:07 Speaker 03 Yeah, so researchers are finding these correlations.
7:10 Speaker 04 Okay.
7:11 Speaker 03 Between things like resilience.
7:13 Speaker 04 Okay.
7:13 Speaker 03 You know, willingness to kind of embrace challenges and a strong sense of self-expression.
7:18 Speaker 04 Right.
7:19 Speaker 03 And people who choose to modify their bodies.
7:21 Speaker 04 Huh. This is making me think about all the people I know who have tattoos.
7:25 Speaker 03 Yeah.
7:26 Speaker 04 I could definitely see those traits in some of them.
7:29 Speaker 03 Right.
7:30 Speaker 04 Yeah, they're not afraid to be themselves.
7:31 Speaker 03 Right.
7:32 Speaker 04 They kind of go after what they want.
7:33 Speaker 03 Totally.
7:33 Speaker 04 Yeah.
7:34 Speaker 03 It's really fascinating, and it challenges those stereotypes that people have about tattoos and the people who get them.
7:39 Speaker 04 Right.
7:40 Speaker 03 But, you know, I know there are still concerns out there.
7:43 Speaker 04 Especially about professionalism.
7:45 Speaker 03 Uh huh.
7:45 Speaker 04 Like, some people might say tattoos look unprofessional.
7:48 Speaker 03 Right.
7:48 Speaker 04 Especially in certain fields.
7:50 Speaker 03 I get that. I can't imagine going to a lawyer who has a face tattoo.
7:54 Speaker 04 Right.
7:54 Speaker 03 Like, I mean, maybe some people wouldn't mind.
7:56 Speaker 04 Yeah.
7:57 Speaker 03 But I think it would make me question their judgment.
8:01 Speaker 04 It's understandable.
8:01 Speaker 03 Yeah.
8:02 Speaker 04 But what's so interesting is that for a lot of people, especially younger generations.
8:06 Speaker 03 Okay.
8:07 Speaker 04 And those from like diverse communities, tattoos can actually make them feel more comfortable.
8:12 Speaker 03 Really? That's not what I would have expected.
8:14 Speaker 04 It's interesting, right?
8:15 Speaker 03 Yeah, tell me more about that.
8:16 Speaker 04 Well, think about how libraries have changed, like, you know, we've all seen that image of the stern librarian.
8:21 Speaker 03 Right.
8:22 Speaker 04 Who's always shushing everyone.
8:23 Speaker 03 Yes.
8:24 Speaker 04 But now they're more welcoming.
8:25 Speaker 03 Oh, yeah, I love that, yeah.
8:27 Speaker 04 It's more community oriented.
8:28 Speaker 03 Yeah, my local library is so bright and colorful now.
8:33 Speaker 04 Right.
8:33 Speaker 03 It's like a totally different atmosphere.
8:35 Speaker 04 It is.
8:35 Speaker 03 Yeah.
8:36 Speaker 04 And, you know, part of that shift has been about, you know, being more open to staff members having visible tattoos.
8:43 Speaker 03 Okay.
8:43 Speaker 04 It helps to break down those barriers.
8:45 Speaker 03 Right.
8:46 Speaker 04 Makes things more relatable.
8:47 Speaker 03 Yeah.
8:48 Speaker 04 More approachable.
8:49 Speaker 03 Right, that makes a lot of sense.
8:50 Speaker 04 Yeah.
8:50 Speaker 03 I can see how someone who's a little intimidated by libraries.
8:55 Speaker 04 Uh huh.
8:56 Speaker 03 You know, might feel better going up to a librarian who has a tattoo.
8:59 Speaker 04 Right.
9:00 Speaker 03 It makes them seem more human.
9:01 Speaker 04 Exactly, someone they can connect with. So it's really about challenging those assumptions we all have.
9:07 Speaker 03 Right.
9:07 Speaker 04 About what's professional.
9:08 Speaker 03 Okay.
9:09 Speaker 04 And who we can trust, because sometimes those assumptions.
9:11 Speaker 03 Yeah.
9:12 Speaker 04 Can be based on outdated stereotypes.
9:15 Speaker 03 That's really interesting. This conversation is opening my eyes to some new perspectives, for sure.
9:20 Speaker 04 I like that.
9:21 Speaker 03 It's making me wonder, in what situations might a tattoo actually make someone more approachable to you?
9:29 Speaker 04 Hmm.
9:30 Speaker 03 I'm starting to think maybe my initial reaction to tattoos.
9:33 Speaker 04 Yeah.
9:34 Speaker 03 Might be based on some unconscious bias that I need to look at.
9:39 Speaker 04 I think it's worth thinking about, and it kind of gets to the heart of this evolving definition of professionalism.
9:46 Speaker 03 Right.
9:47 Speaker 04 In our society.
9:48 Speaker 03 Okay, well, we've covered a lot of ground here.
9:50 Speaker 04 We have.
9:51 Speaker 03 It's clear that attitudes towards tattoos are changing.
9:54 Speaker 04 Yeah.
9:55 Speaker 03 But there's still a lot of gray areas.
9:57 Speaker 04 Totally, it's not a simple yes or no answer.
9:59 Speaker 03 No.
9:59 Speaker 04 There's a lot of nuance, a lot of individual variation.
10:01 Speaker 03 Right, because one person might see a tattoo as like a sign of rebellion.
10:05 Speaker 04 Uh huh.
10:06 Speaker 03 While another person might see it as a beautiful piece of art.
10:09 Speaker 04 Exactly.
10:10 Speaker 03 That tells a story.
10:11 Speaker 04 It's all about perspective.
10:12 Speaker 03 It is.
10:13 Speaker 04 And just like with fashion, you know, the meaning of tattoos.
10:17 Speaker 03 Yeah.
10:17 Speaker 04 And how they're perceived.
10:19 Speaker 03 Yeah.
10:19 Speaker 04 Can change over time.
10:20 Speaker 03 Right, it's funny to think about how, you know, tattoos used to be associated with like.
10:25 Speaker 04 Sailors, yeah.
10:26 Speaker 03 Sailors and bikers, and now it's like everyone and their grandmother has one.
10:30 Speaker 04 Well, maybe not literally everyone's grandmother.
10:32 Speaker 03 Well, yeah, you know what I mean?
10:34 Speaker 04 Yeah.
10:34 Speaker 03 It's become mainstream, right?
10:35 Speaker 04 Totally mainstream.
10:36 Speaker 03 And that's gotta have an impact on how they're seen in the workplace.
10:39 Speaker 04 Oh, sure.
10:40 Speaker 03 And it's not just about how many people have them. It's also about like the styles that we're seeing now.
10:45 Speaker 04 Right. Have you noticed how tattoo styles have changed?
10:47 Speaker 03 Oh, totally.
10:48 Speaker 04 Like, it's not just anchors and skulls anymore.
10:50 Speaker 03 No.
10:50 Speaker 04 There's so much diversity in styles.
10:53 Speaker 03 Yes.
10:53 Speaker 04 You're seeing everything from like delicate minimalist tattoos to these incredible intricate full color masterpieces.
11:02 Speaker 03 Right. It's like an art form.
11:03 Speaker 04 It's totally an art form.
11:04 Speaker 03 Yeah, and I think that shift in style is part of what's making them more acceptable.
11:09 Speaker 04 Yeah.
11:10 Speaker 03 Like, in professional settings, you know, like those minimalist tattoos can be so subtle
11:14 Speaker 04 Totally.
11:15 Speaker 03 and elegant.
11:16 Speaker 04 Yeah.
11:16 Speaker 03 They don't have that like shock value that some of the older styles had.
11:20 Speaker 04 Totally agree. It's a great observation.
11:22 Speaker 03 Thanks.
11:22 Speaker 04 It goes back to that idea of self-expression, right?
11:24 Speaker 03 Yeah.
11:25 Speaker 04 Like, tattoos can be a way to show your personality, your values, your interests.
11:30 Speaker 03 It's almost like they're part of our personal branding, in a way.
11:33 Speaker 04 Oh, I like that. I like that.
11:35 Speaker 03 Yeah.
11:35 Speaker 04 Yeah, like, it's a way of communicating who we are.
11:38 Speaker 03 Yeah.
11:39 Speaker 04 Without even saying a word.
11:40 Speaker 03 Yeah.
11:41 Speaker 04 And it makes me think about how we're seeing, you know, public figures with visible tattoos.
11:48 Speaker 03 Yes.
11:49 Speaker 04 Like, athletes and musicians.
11:50 Speaker 03 Even politicians now.
11:51 Speaker 04 Even politicians, yeah.
11:53 Speaker 03 Yeah.
11:53 Speaker 04 It's helping to normalize them across, like, all sectors of society.
11:57 Speaker 03 Totally.
11:58 Speaker 04 And as younger generations, who statistically are more likely to have tattoos.
12:02 Speaker 03 Yeah.
12:03 Speaker 04 You know, move into leadership roles, I think we're gonna see a continued shift.
12:08 Speaker 03 For sure.
12:08 Speaker 04 In those attitudes.
12:09 Speaker 03 Yeah.
12:10 Speaker 04 It's like, we're on the edge of this whole new era of workplace culture.
12:14 Speaker 03 Right. That's exciting.
12:15 Speaker 04 I think so, yeah.
12:16 Speaker 03 Yeah, one that's more inclusive and accepting of individual expression.
12:19 Speaker 04 Totally.
12:20 Speaker 03 What other changes might be in store, like.
12:22 Speaker 04 Ooh, that's a good question.
12:23 Speaker 03 What comes to mind?
12:24 Speaker 04 Well, as Gen Z enters the workforce, you know, full force.
12:27 Speaker 03 Right.
12:27 Speaker 04 I think we're gonna see even more acceptance of body art.
12:30 Speaker 03 Yeah.
12:31 Speaker 04 And perhaps even a whole redefinition.
12:33 Speaker 03 Okay.
12:34 Speaker 04 Of what professionalism means.
12:36 Speaker 03 Wow, it's like these old fashioned rules are being rewritten right in front of us.
12:40 Speaker 04 I know. It's a really interesting time.
12:42 Speaker 03 It is.
12:42 Speaker 04 To be thinking about these things.
12:44 Speaker 03 Yeah, but ultimately, it's not about what's on your skin.
12:47 Speaker 04 Right.
12:47 Speaker 03 Right. It's what's in your heart and mind.
12:49 Speaker 04 Well said.
12:50 Speaker 03 Yeah.
12:50 Speaker 04 It's about your skills, your talent, your work ethic.
12:54 Speaker 03 Right.
12:54 Speaker 04 Those are the things that really matter at the end of the day.
12:57 Speaker 03 So after diving deep into all of this,
12:59 Speaker 04 Yeah.
13:00 Speaker 03 what stands out to you as like the most surprising or thought provoking takeaway?
13:05 Speaker 04 Hmm, that's a good question.
13:09 Speaker 04 It's tough to pick just one.
13:10 Speaker 03 I know, right?
13:12 Speaker 04 But I think for me, it's realizing that tattoos can actually be a strength in the workplace.
13:17 Speaker 03 Really?
13:18 Speaker 04 Yeah, I mean, I never really thought about it that way before.
13:21 Speaker 03 Me neither.
13:22 Speaker 04 But the whole idea that they can signal dedication, resilience, even bravery, it's powerful.
13:29 Speaker 03 It really is.
13:30 Speaker 04 It really makes you challenge those assumptions.
13:32 Speaker 03 Yeah.
13:32 Speaker 04 It reminds you to look beyond just what you see on the surface.
13:35 Speaker 03 Right, to kind of look at the whole person.
13:37 Speaker 04 Mm-hmm, exactly. Appreciate the unique qualities that each person brings.
13:42 Speaker 03 For sure. I'm definitely gonna be looking at tattoos in a whole new light.
13:45 Speaker 04 Yeah, glad.
13:46 Speaker 03 But it makes me wonder, if we're seeing this acceptance of tattoos now, what other forms of self-expression might become more common?
13:56 Speaker 04 Oh, that's an interesting question.
13:57 Speaker 03 In the workplace, in the future?
13:59 Speaker 04 Yeah, like what comes to mind?
14:01 Speaker 03 Well, I mean, we've already seen a shift in attitudes towards piercings.
14:05 Speaker 04 True.
14:06 Speaker 03 What about things like colorful hair? Or even like body modifications beyond tattoos? Will those become more accepted?
14:13 Speaker 04 It's possible.
14:14 Speaker 03 Yeah.
14:15 Speaker 04 As those lines between our personal and professional lives
14:19 Speaker 03 Right.
14:19 Speaker 04 continue to blur, it makes sense that we'll want to bring more of our authentic selves to work.
14:24 Speaker 03 Yeah, and as long as it doesn't get in the way of, you know, doing your job.
14:28 Speaker 04 Right, exactly.
14:29 Speaker 03 Why not?
14:29 Speaker 04 Exactly.
14:30 Speaker 03 It's about finding that balance between individuality and professionalism.
14:34 Speaker 04 For sure.
14:34 Speaker 03 Yeah.
14:34 Speaker 04 And, you know, recognizing that the two aren't necessarily separate. Like, individuality can actually make you more professional.
14:41 Speaker 03 Oh, okay.
14:41 Speaker 04 Bringing new perspectives and a sense of authenticity to the workplace.
14:45 Speaker 03 Okay, so as we wrap up this deep dive,
14:48 Speaker 04 Yeah.
14:48 Speaker 03 what's one final thought you'd like to leave our listeners with?
14:52 Speaker 04 I would say, don't be afraid to challenge the status quo.
14:55 Speaker 03 Okay.
14:56 Speaker 04 Whether it's about tattoos or anything else, you know,
15:00 Speaker 03 Yeah.
15:00 Speaker 04 any other form of self-expression.
15:02 Speaker 03 Yeah.
15:02 Speaker 04 Let's keep questioning those old norms.
15:04 Speaker 03 Okay.
15:05 Speaker 04 And pushing for a more inclusive and accepting world.
15:07 Speaker 03 Right.
15:08 Speaker 04 Both at work and outside of work.
15:09 Speaker 03 Beautifully said.
15:10 Speaker 04 Thank you.
15:10 Speaker 03 And to our listener, what does all this information make you curious to explore further? What assumptions are you ready to challenge? Until next time, keep learning, keep questioning, and keep diving deep.
15:22 Speaker 04 It is a good question.
15:24 Speaker 03 It's tough to pick just one, but I think for me, it's realizing that tattoos could actually be a strength in the workplace.
15:32 Speaker 04 Yeah.
15:32 Speaker 03 I never thought about it that way before.
15:34 Speaker 04 Yeah.
15:34 Speaker 03 The whole idea that having tattoos can show dedication, resilience, even bravery, that's powerful.
15:41 Speaker 04 It really challenges our assumptions, doesn't it?
15:44 Speaker 03 It does.
15:45 Speaker 04 Like, it reminds us to look beyond those surface judgments.
15:48 Speaker 03 Mm-hmm.
15:48 Speaker 04 And, you know, really appreciate
15:50 Speaker 03 Yeah.
15:50 Speaker 04 the unique qualities that each person brings to the table.
15:54 Speaker 03 Absolutely. And I'm gonna be looking at tattoos in a whole new light from now on.
15:58 Speaker 04 I'm glad to hear that.
15:59 Speaker 03 But it makes me wonder, if we're seeing more acceptance of tattoos now, what other forms of self-expression
16:05 Speaker 04 Hmm.
16:06 Speaker 03 might become more common in the workplace in the future?
16:09 Speaker 04 That's a great question.
16:10 Speaker 03 What do you, like, what comes to mind?
16:12 Speaker 04 Yeah, well, I mean, we've already seen a shift in attitudes towards piercings, right?
16:16 Speaker 03 Right.
16:16 Speaker 04 What about things like colorful hair?
16:18 Speaker 03 Oh, yeah.
16:19 Speaker 04 Or even body modifications beyond tattoos?
16:21 Speaker 03 Right, right.
16:23 Speaker 04 Will we see those become more accepted?
16:26 Speaker 03 Will those become mainstream?
16:28 Speaker 04 It's hard to say for sure.
16:30 Speaker 03 Yeah.
16:31 Speaker 04 But it's definitely possible.
16:33 Speaker 03 Okay.
16:33 Speaker 04 As those lines, you know, between our personal and professional lives.
16:37 Speaker 03 Yeah.
16:38 Speaker 04 Keep getting blurrier and blurrier.
16:39 Speaker 03 Right.
16:40 Speaker 04 I think it makes sense that we'll want to bring more of our authentic selves to work.
16:44 Speaker 03 And as long as it doesn't interfere with our ability to do our jobs effectively.
16:49 Speaker 04 Right.
16:49 Speaker 03 Why not? Right.
16:50 Speaker 04 Exactly.
16:51 Speaker 03 It's all about finding that balance.
16:53 Speaker 04 Yeah, finding that balance.
16:54 Speaker 03 Between individuality and professionalism.
16:56 Speaker 04 Yeah, and recognizing that, you know,
16:57 Speaker 03 Yeah.
16:58 Speaker 04 the two aren't mutually exclusive.
16:59 Speaker 03 Right.
17:00 Speaker 04 Like, individuality can actually enhance professionalism.
17:03 Speaker 03 Oh, how so?
17:04 Speaker 04 Well, by bringing those fresh perspectives, that sense of authenticity.
17:07 Speaker 03 Right.
17:08 Speaker 04 into the workplace.
17:09 Speaker 03 Okay, so as we wrap up this deep dive.
17:12 Speaker 04 Yeah.
17:12 Speaker 03 What's one final thought you'd like to leave our listeners with?
17:16 Speaker 04 I would say, don't be afraid to challenge the status quo. Whether it's about tattoos, piercings, clothing, hair, you name it.
17:26 Speaker 03 Right, any form of self-expression.
17:27 Speaker 04 Exactly.
17:28 Speaker 03 Okay.
17:28 Speaker 04 Let's keep questioning those old norms and keep pushing for a more inclusive world.
17:32 Speaker 03 Right.
17:33 Speaker 04 Both at work and outside of work.
17:34 Speaker 03 Beautifully said. And to our listeners, what does all of this information make you curious to explore further? What assumptions are you ready to challenge? Until next time, keep learning, keep questioning, and keep diving deep.
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