How Chiefs Can Bounce Back, Eagles Letdown, Are the Vikings Legit & Worst Taco Bell Item | Ep 208

92%ers, welcome to another episode of New Heights brought to you by Xfinity! Today. We’ve got Travis’ thoughts on how the Chiefs bounce back after the loss in Seattle, Jason weighs in on what went wrong for the Eagles, we debate if the Vikings are a legit contender, explain why the Cam Skattebo penalty sucks, and Jake tries to get Aaron Glenn fired. We also discuss the worst items from Taco Bell, why Jason isn’t getting the iPhone Duo, watch an electric catch for Super Bowl tickets, and more! For more details on our upcoming Philly Tailgate visit: https://kelceclubhouse.com/ Watch and listen to new episodes of New Heights every Wednesday during the NFL season and follow us on Social Media for all the best moments from the show: https://lnk.to/newheightshow You can also listen to new episodes on Wondery, Apple Podcasts, Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. . . . Watch the full episode here: Prime:https://www.primevideo.com/detail/0JLG80EV3QTOUJWLN8KSQ3OSTL?ref_=atv_dp_share_cu_r Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/new-heights/id1643745036 Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/1y3SUbFMUSESC1N43tBleK?si=LsuQ4a5MRN6wGMcfVcuynw Support the show: XFTINITY: Xfinity CyberSecure is included with Xfinity WiFi and blocks billions of online threats and risky sites for every device. Plus, lock in your price on WiFi for 5 years, guaranteed. THE FARMER’S DOG: Episode Sponsored By The Farmer’s Dog. Go to https://amazon.com/thefarmersdog & get 50% off your first box. ROYAL CARIBBEAN: Legend of the Seas. This is as Big as Vacation Gets. Visit https://bit.ly/4rSbQxH to learn more. PEPSI: Bring great taste to your tailgate. Tailgating Deserves Pepsi. Food Deserves Pepsi. Shop now:https://click2cart.com/17090008 PRIZEPICKS: Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/NEWHEIGHTS and use codeNEWHEIGHTS and get $150 if you win your first $5 lineup! TYSON: Fuel up for game day with deliciously crispy Tyson® Chicken Nuggets. Check out https://tyson.com/where-to-buy to find your nearest retailer COLGATE: Colgate Total prevents problems before they start. Available on Amazon https://tinyurl.com/ColgateTotalAmazon. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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• 0:00Speaker 00

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• 0:59Travis Kelce?

  Thank you to our sponsor, Colgate Total.

• 1:02Speaker 02

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• 1:07Travis Kelce?

  That's true. Otherwise, you're just out there running cardio. Can't get open for a big play.

• 1:13Speaker 02

  But it's not just football. There's a lot of things you need to prevent before they start.

• 1:17Travis Kelce?

  Yeah, like in your mouth.

• 1:19Speaker 02

  My mouth specifically?

• 1:21Travis Kelce?

  I mean, probably yours too, but I'm talking everybody's mouth. There's bacteria in there that can lead to oral health problems like cavities, gingivitis.

• 1:32Speaker 02

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• 1:43Travis Kelce?

  Ooh, exactly. With twice daily brushing, Colgate Total prevents oral health problems like cavities and gingivitis.

• 1:51Speaker 02

  And it's not just one contributing player either. It's a whole system, toothpaste, mouthwash, and a special toothbrush.

• 1:59Travis Kelce?

  Now that's the squad you want fighting for your mouth.

• 2:01Speaker 02

  Colgate Total is like having a full playbook in your bathroom, working to help prevent oral health problems before they start.

• 2:09Travis Kelce?

  Get Colgate Total on Amazon today. Jason, you gonna stick with the old iPhone or you getting the, uh, the cool new one?

• 2:15Speaker 02

  By new one, do you mean the one that folds?

• 2:17Travis Kelce?

  Yeah.

• 2:17Speaker 02

  Yeah, no, I'm not doing a folding phone. I don't see the purpose for that.

• 2:21Travis Kelce?

  All right, good talk.

• 2:22Speaker 02

  You, you, you a folder?

• 2:23Travis Kelce?

  I'm giving it, I'm giving it a chance. Let me see what's up.

• 2:26Speaker 02

  I'm not a big first adopter, kind of a second adopter, not a big bust the door down, jump in first kind of guy. I'm like, all right, I'm gonna go second.

• 2:34Speaker 02

  I'm gonna see what happens to this first guy.

• 2:37Travis Kelce?

  You are such a bust the door.

• 2:40Speaker 02

  Well, I'm gonna bust the door in, but I'm kinda like bust the door and I go, go, go, go, go, go. And then I'm right behind.

• 2:47Speaker 02

  All right, let's go preach this mother, you and me, you and me, we're in. All right, I'm right behind you.

• 2:53Travis Kelce?

  You're not Leroy Jenkins.

• 2:55Speaker 02

  I'm like Cletus Jenkins in, I'm Leroy's brother.

• 3:03Travis Kelce?

  Welcome back to New Heights, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls. A wondery show brought to you by Xfinity. That's right. We are your hosts, I'm Travis Kelce, my big brother Jason Kelce out of Cleveland Heights, Ohio. Shout out to the Tigers back home on the east side of Cleveland and shout out to the UC Bearcats. Huge upset over my boy Pat Mahomes, Texas Tech Red Raiders. Shout out to my guy Summit Hoag. I know he's fucking pissed right now. Subscribe on YouTube where we get some podcasts and follow the show on all social media at New Heights Show with what has for fun clips throughout the week. Jason, why don't you let the people know what we got coming up?

• 3:38Speaker 02

  Well, Trav, we have another amazing episode for you 90%ers. We're gonna get to the Chiefs' first loss of the season, unfortunately. Also, more unfortunate news, the Eagles on Monday Night Football and a little Jason out of the house and much more. Before we get into any of that, we're always gonna get into some of that new news.

• 3:57Travis Kelce?

  New news.

• 3:58Speaker 02

  New news is brought to you by the farmer's dog, the official pet food of the NFL. We're gonna get the farmer's dog to make sure our dog is eating quality ingredients. And then you're gonna stop at Taco Bell on the way home.

• 4:13Speaker 02

  For us.

• 4:16Travis Kelce?

  Cause I need that shit.

• 4:18Speaker 02

  What do you think's the worst food item at Taco Bell for you?

• 4:23Travis Kelce?

  For you? I don't know what's in those cinnamon crisps, but.

• 4:26Speaker 02

  They can't be healthy, right?

• 4:28Travis Kelce?

  It just tastes like styrofoam with sugar on it.

• 4:32Speaker 02

  Well, I also like wonder when it's like a dust like that, that whatever, whenever something's been dusted on, like.

• 4:41Speaker 02

  How much?

• 4:44Speaker 02

  How can we be sure that there's no contaminations in that dust? Like, there's gotta be like something in with that dust.

• 4:50Travis Kelce?

  Something, man, something. What are, what's in this fucking dust?

• 4:54Speaker 02

  I'm gonna look up a Taco Bell menu and you're gonna tell.

• 4:57Travis Kelce?

  It's had to have been way better. You know, they make, they breakfast now. They're a breakfast food now.

• 5:03Speaker 02

  Dude, who in the fucking right mind is going to Taco Bell for breakfast?

• 5:07Travis Kelce?

  Bro, tacos, breakfast tacos are a thing.

• 5:10Speaker 02

  They are, they're very good, actually. Big fan.

• 5:12Travis Kelce?

  That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying.

• 5:14Speaker 02

  Fair enough, okay.

• 5:17Travis Kelce?

  I'm not a breakfast taco kinda guy, but.

• 5:19Speaker 02

  I love breakfast tacos, but I'm.

• 5:20Travis Kelce?

  I'll tell you what, I kinda like, I kinda fuck with breakfast quesadillas though.

• 5:25Speaker 02

  My favorite thing about Taco Bell is that it is staying true to like the number one place to go if you want Mountain Dew.

• 5:33Travis Kelce?

  Are you kidding me?

• 5:34Speaker 02

  That's the.

• 5:35Travis Kelce?

  All the flavors. Code Red, Baja Blast.

• 5:39Speaker 02

  Yeah, baby.

• 5:40Travis Kelce?

  I haven't even seen a Code Red Mountain Dew in a bottle lately, let alone, I've never seen Baja Blast in a bottle. Taco Bell has fucking got it.

• 5:48Speaker 02

  All right, what should we do? Should we do best sellers, uh, featured items?

• 5:52Travis Kelce?

  What's the question now? What's the worst thing to get?

• 5:55Speaker 02

  What's the most unhealthy thing at Taco Bell, do we think?

• 5:58Travis Kelce?

  Ooh, it's gotta be the cheesy gordita crunch.

• 6:02Speaker 02

  I mean, I love those cheesy gorditas.

• 6:04Travis Kelce?

  Yeah, I wonder why.

• 6:05Speaker 02

  Cinnamon twists, where does, does it have an ingredients list of the cinnamon? Nope, of course it does not. It's not gonna tell you what's in these little things. I mean, it could, for all I know, it could be styrofoam coated with cinnamon. I would have no clue.

• 6:19Travis Kelce?

  It's like the little white styrofoam things that you put in like, like boxes to like send to somebody.

• 6:24Speaker 02

  Yeah, yes, yes.

• 6:25Travis Kelce?

  And they just fucking air fry them and put cinnamon on it. Taco Bell is gonna fucking hate us for this.

• 6:31Speaker 02

  I mean, they, they understand their brand.

• 6:35Speaker 02

  Nothing of what we're saying is gonna stop me from getting a cheesy gordita crunch. I'll tell you that right now.

• 6:40Travis Kelce?

  Dude.

• 6:41Speaker 02

  Chicken quesadilla, like, are we even sure this is, this can't be human grade cheese?

• 6:45Travis Kelce?

  Man, I love, I love their quesadillas, man.

• 6:48Speaker 02

  Whatever that sauce is they put in there.

• 6:50Travis Kelce?

  Put that shit on everything, cause I fucking hate sauces and that one's a banger.

• 6:54Speaker 02

  It is.

• 6:55Travis Kelce?

  It's got a little spice to it.

• 6:57Speaker 02

  Oh, man.

• 6:58Travis Kelce?

  I just wanted to know what you're, what are you going through? You're just going through their menu?

• 7:03Speaker 02

  Taco Bell.com, I'm going through the menu, the crispy chicken nuggets.

• 7:07Travis Kelce?

  That was a, today was the day I learned that there was a Taco Bell.com.

• 7:13Speaker 02

  At this point, I think all of them have a dot com of some degree. Other than, you know, what's one, let's, let's do another one. What's one fast food restaurant you think doesn't have an online dot com?

• 7:28Speaker 02

  I'm gonna, let's check Steak and Shake first.

• 7:32Travis Kelce?

  Steak and Shake, dude. Long John Silver's, is that even a thing anymore?

• 7:36Speaker 02

  Oh, it definitely is.

• 7:37Travis Kelce?

  That was Mama Kelsey's favorite.

• 7:39Speaker 02

  That was hilarious.

• 7:40Travis Kelce?

  Love fast food fish, are you kidding me?

• 7:43Speaker 02

  Steak and Shake.com is a website that is functioning. It is actually, seems to be pretty high. There's a big warning that says they are transitioning away from seed oils. Congratulations, Steak and Shake.

• 7:56Travis Kelce?

  Nice, gotta get out of that seed oil.

• 7:58Speaker 02

  That's right, that's right, all right. How about, uh, Hardee's? Do we think Hardee's?

• 8:04Travis Kelce?

  It's probably Carl's Jr.com, but yeah.

• 8:06Speaker 02

  Hardee's.com takes you to Hardee's.com, not Carl's Jr.com.

• 8:10Travis Kelce?

  Ooh, Hardee's is the original, nice.

• 8:12Speaker 02

  All right, do we think, okay, should we go Carl's Jr.? Let's see if it just like, is the exact same site, it just has different headings.

• 8:19Travis Kelce?

  It's gotta be.

• 8:20Speaker 02

  Carl's Jr.com. Same exact website, but a different site.

• 8:27Travis Kelce?

  Just the name. What the fuck is the point at that point? At this point, what is it? They just don't wanna go to each store and change the name? It's gotta be that.

• 8:35Speaker 02

  It's the same thing as Checkers and Rally's, right? Like, they're both, they're the exact same deal.

• 8:39Travis Kelce?

  That might be, that might be.

• 8:42Speaker 02

  Rally's takes you to Checkers and Rally's.

• 8:46Travis Kelce?

  Oh, okay.

• 8:47Speaker 02

  So Checkers and Rally's.com, and it seems like both of those will work if you are so interested. Okay, all of these, okay.

• 8:53Travis Kelce?

  Fries at Checkers and Rally's, man.

• 8:55Speaker 02

  Oh, man, I'll tell you this, Checkers and Rally's has a nice little video montage of all of these food items that probably aren't edible. They're probably made by specific, like, commercial grade food people that make it look extra delicious, but it looks very good.

• 9:09Travis Kelce?

  Nice.

• 9:10Speaker 02

  That is not, this is not what the burger's gonna look like when you go there.

• 9:14Travis Kelce?

  The burgers are fucking gas though.

• 9:16Speaker 02

  I'm not, yeah, I'm not.

• 9:16Travis Kelce?

  They are good.

• 9:17Speaker 02

  I ain't hating. Is there any other? Those are my front runners that I thought might not have a dot com. What, are there any other?

• 9:25Travis Kelce?

  I mean, I would say White Castle, cause it's kinda, I've seen more of those.

• 9:29Speaker 02

  White Castle definitely has a website.

• 9:31Travis Kelce?

  I would hear you. What about Big Boys? Remember Big Boys?

• 9:34Speaker 02

  Big Boy, dude, that's a, uh, that's a Cincinnati staple, really more fast, that's like a sit down restaurant, but. BigBoys.com, I kinda feel uncomfortable typing this.

• 9:49Travis Kelce?

  Where is it gonna take you?

• 9:51Speaker 02

  It does not take you anywhere at BigBoys.com. It's not, honestly, it's up for grab, Big Boys. If you want a dot com, BigBoys.com is available. Kinda shocked.

• 10:01Travis Kelce?

  New Heights, we gotta buy it.

• 10:02Speaker 02

  The domain, BigBoys.com is for sale. Click here to learn more. All right, let's click here to learn more. Cause I am interested.

• 10:10Travis Kelce?

  Who's got the BigBoys.com?

• 10:12Speaker 02

  It really doesn't tell you, then I have to input like an email and shit like that, which I'm not gonna do.

• 10:16Travis Kelce?

  No.

• 10:17Speaker 02

  All right.

• 10:17Travis Kelce?

  They're gonna try and finesse you into thinking you can buy it for a hundred thousand dollars.

• 10:22Speaker 02

  Yeah, what's the other Big Boys, the other name for Big Boys? Oh, my gosh.

• 10:26Travis Kelce?

  Red Robin.

• 10:29Speaker 02

  It's a different restaurant. Big Boys, uh, oh my gosh, what's it called in Cincinnati? It's not called Big Boys.

• 10:34Travis Kelce?

  I just remember there was the one down at the, like, by the freeway. What is that?

• 10:37Speaker 02

  Correct, it, uh, it's not Carl's, it's, um, Frish's, Frish's Big Boys.

• 10:43Travis Kelce?

  Frish's.

• 10:46Travis Kelce?

  BigBoy.com.

• 10:48Speaker 02

  How many, what, what, what amount of the people that are gonna listen to this podcast are gonna have any idea what the fuck we're talking about?

• 10:56Travis Kelce?

  Zero.

• 10:57Speaker 02

  Brandon, do you have any idea? Do you know what Big Boys is?

• 11:00Speaker 03

  Well, I, we have a big boy in California, but it's Bob's Big Boy, which I think is actually the one they're referencing Austin Powers.

• 11:08Travis Kelce?

  What?

• 11:09Speaker 03

  Bob's big boy. I think is the Austin Powers reference. It's the little guy holding the burger, right?

• 11:14Travis Kelce?

  Yeah.

• 11:15Speaker 03

  Yeah. I think that's our.

• 11:16Travis Kelce?

  Oh, my God.

• 11:17Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 11:18Travis Kelce?

  It is. But that's the guy that's out in front of every one of them.

• 11:21Speaker 02

  Yeah. So this is big boys. Is this the same thing where they have the tartar sauce on the on the cheeseburger? That's like their special?

• 11:27Travis Kelce?

  Oh, my God.

• 11:28Speaker 03

  I've never ventured to tartar sauce on a cheeseburger. I've never been that.

• 11:32Speaker 02

  Well, you need to go to big boys.

• 11:35Speaker 03

  I got to bigboys.com.

• 11:36Travis Kelce?

  You eat mayo out of a jar.

• 11:38Speaker 02

  Do not go, let me be clear. Do not go to bigboys.com.

• 11:41Speaker 03

  We're gonna be very, let me be very clear. We're gonna own bigboys.com very soon.

• 11:45Speaker 02

  I'm in. I'm in. I don't know. We can.

• 11:48Travis Kelce?

  What are we doing with this domain?

• 11:50Speaker 02

  We're gonna start a sumo league, Travis. We're gonna start a sumo league and it's gonna be all big boys. Sumo wrestling, baby. And it's gonna be, it's gonna also be an OnlyFans website. What's the, uh, big boy? What is this? It is like the same big boy. Go to, have you ever? So you don't know what Frish's is?

• 12:09Speaker 03

  No, I've never heard of Frish's.

• 12:10Speaker 02

  Frish's is like, that's the one that you're talking about, Travis.

• 12:13Travis Kelce?

  Yeah.

• 12:14Speaker 02

  Frish's big boy. Did a bunch of people just take the same mascot and make it their own?

• 12:23Travis Kelce?

  I guess.

• 12:23Speaker 02

  I'm so confused. You know that like, uh, Berenstein, Berenstain, Bears thing? Like, I feel like that's what's happening to me right now with big boy.

• 12:34Travis Kelce?

  They're probably just franchising them and whoever the guy was that was fucking owning them just.

• 12:39Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's probably exactly what happened.

• 12:41Travis Kelce?

  You know what I mean?

• 12:41Speaker 02

  They probably started opening these big boys all over the country and then they, the, the, the top got cut out from the bottom and all the ones that had a little bit of legs to stand on created their own version of big boy. They had this big boy sitting out front. So that became Bob's big boy and then fucking whoever's big boy.

• 12:56Travis Kelce?

  We gotta piece it together.

• 12:57Speaker 03

  You can find all your big boys at bigboys.com. It should just link to a picture of Bo Allen.

• 13:03Speaker 02

  I mean, if Bo.

• 13:04Speaker 03

  Static image of Bo.

• 13:05Speaker 02

  If Bo had the same haircut as Elvis, then it would be essentially the same person.

• 13:12Travis Kelce?

  He is a big overalls guy. I don't know about record overalls, but he's definitely rocking some overalls.

• 13:16Speaker 03

  We can get him some overalls.

• 13:18Speaker 02

  No doubt.

• 13:18Speaker 03

  I do have an update on, on bigboys.com.

• 13:22Travis Kelce?

  Oh, God.

• 13:23Speaker 03

  And I need your guys' permission to spend a little money. Just don't freak out.

• 13:26Speaker 02

  How much does it cost?

• 13:27Travis Kelce?

  How much they, how much they ask?

• 13:28Speaker 03

  Bigboys.com is $200,000.

• 13:31Speaker 02

  Are you fucking kidding me?

• 13:32Speaker 03

  That is what the New Heights research team is, is relaying to me. It is 200.

• 13:35Speaker 02

  $200,000?

• 13:38Travis Kelce?

  I undersold.

• 13:40Speaker 03

  We are a solutions based team. We can have bigboys.org.

• 13:43Speaker 02

  200, 200,000 yen? Will they accept that? No.

• 13:46Speaker 03

  No. Bigboys.org is only $1,500.

• 13:53Speaker 02

  Hmm. Now we're, that's more in the price range right now.

• 13:55Travis Kelce?

  No.

• 13:55Speaker 03

  Bigboys.org.

• 13:57Travis Kelce?

  It doesn't.

• 13:57Speaker 02

  I mean, bigboys.com is definitely, bigboys.org doesn't seem like a big boys website. Bigboys.com feels like a big boys website.

• 14:08Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 14:08Speaker 02

  200,000. That's what they're fucking trying.

• 14:10Speaker 03

  I've got my Travis Kelce Platinum AMX here. I will swipe it immediately.

• 14:14Travis Kelce?

  Swipe it. Swipe it. If you give them that, then yeah.

• 14:16Speaker 03

  Swipe this on the internet and just.

• 14:18Travis Kelce?

  Yeah.

• 14:20Speaker 03

  He's good for it.

• 14:22Speaker 02

  Bigboys.com.

• 14:23Travis Kelce?

  AMX must be.

• 14:24Speaker 02

  For the low price of $200,000, you too can go bankrupt with bigboys.com.

• 14:29Speaker 03

  Do we even get to new news yet?

• 14:31Speaker 02

  No. I don't know. I don't know how, I don't know how I segue to that.

• 14:38Travis Kelce?

  I needed that.

• 14:39Speaker 02

  All right. Like we said last week, the New Heights Tailgate presented by Stouffer's is back and coming to Philadelphia on November 8th. It'll be in stateside live. That's where we were this week for Monday Night Countdown. Um, it is free to the public. No tickets needed. There'll be free food, game, merch, uh, DJ, photo wall, and much more for you all of United Two Percenters that end up showing up, uh, obviously before another big in division game, Giants versus Eagles. JJ McCarthy balling out a little bit. We'll get to that a little bit later. Uh, we did ask 92 percenters for some suggestions on what to do at the tailgate and at Bailey 4047 said hobby horsing competition.

• 15:19Travis Kelce?

  Not a bad, not a bad gig. I'm not gonna lie. I think, I think Eagles fans, I think Eagles fans would have some fun with this.

• 15:26Speaker 02

  Do we do it like hobby horsing? Do they have to dress up?

• 15:29Travis Kelce?

  Uh, maybe not dress up like equestrians, but.

• 15:33Speaker 02

  No, no, no. But like, instead of it being a horse, follow me, follow me. Instead of it being a horse, should it be an eagle head? Like you're, like you're flying on an eagle? Am I getting way too?

• 15:42Travis Kelce?

  Hobby eagling? I mean, no, I hear you. That'll make it more festive and, and a part of the Eagles culture. Yeah, I can see that.

• 15:50Speaker 02

  God, hobby horsing would have been good for the Cowboys game, tailgate.

• 15:53Travis Kelce?

  Ooh.

• 15:54Speaker 02

  I'm kinda in on hobby horsing. I think it's a great idea. At lost items found a mayo eating contest. I'm in on this as well. I'm, I'm in on the mayo eating contest.

• 16:02Travis Kelce?

  What's the difference between mayo eating and anything like a pie eating?

• 16:07Speaker 02

  Well, the difference is that it's disgusting. It'll make everybody go, oh, while they're watching people eat globs of mayonnaise.

• 16:14Travis Kelce?

  Oh, God. Yeah. I mean, if the point is to see people throw up, yeah, do that, do that one.

• 16:20Speaker 02

  At Sooners Tigers inflatable bungee. What the fuck is inflatable bungee? The inflatable bungee race where you are racing one versus one, but the bungee pulls the other person.

• 16:31Travis Kelce?

  Yeah, I've seen these.

• 16:33Speaker 02

  Oh, so it's almost like tug of war kinda type thing, right?

• 16:36Travis Kelce?

  It's the other, it's, you got two lanes. I think, I think it's got two lanes and both try and get to like the flag first and the bungee is like, the rope is basically like pulling you back. You've never seen this?

• 16:49Speaker 02

  Is it like attached to the other person?

• 16:51Travis Kelce?

  It's like an inflatable deal.

• 16:54Speaker 02

  And this is not, I need to see it to get a good visualization, visualization on this.

• 16:59Travis Kelce?

  Maybe Brandy could pull it up on a.

• 17:01Speaker 02

  No, he's too busy. He's putting up Halloween decorations.

• 17:04Travis Kelce?

  There it is. He sees it.

• 17:08Speaker 02

  Yes, I know what we're talking about now. Not a bad idea. At Lily, figure out how to get the cheeseball pit there. The cheeseball pit broke, um, unfortunately at the, um, live event down the shore for Beer Bowl. So the cheeseball pit doesn't exist anymore. Shout out to Uts. So probably can't do that. Uh, at Nathan, something, something, something. I can't really read it. These things, these things are something that Travis would be all on board with.

• 17:33Travis Kelce?

  I would fuck some people up with those things.

• 17:35Speaker 02

  I mean, it's pretty safe too. It looks like.

• 17:38Travis Kelce?

  Yeah. Just gotta pick your knees up when you get fucked because.

• 17:40Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right. Well, I like, I like the physicality of some of these things. I definitely like the mayo eating competition. Well, for additional info on the tailgate, check out our out of the house page on the Kelsey clubhouse. That's right.

• 17:54Travis Kelce?

  Yes, sir.

• 17:55Speaker 02

  Friend of the show, Prince William was on the Graham Norton show and joked that he tried to move Travis Kelce out of the photo he took at the era's tour in 2024.

• 18:05Speaker 04

  You took his seat, Taylor Swift, uh, Wembley, as we all know, gorgeous lady. And, uh, she had a picture with you and your family backstage. Now, are you aware of the significance of this picture?

• 18:18Speaker 05

  So I wasn't until recently. I hadn't appreciated the significance. And actually, I was trying to move him out the photo. Travis kept coming back in. I couldn't work out why he kept coming back in. I was trying to move him out so it's just me and Taylor and the children.

• 18:33Speaker 04

  No, so this was when they went photo official.

• 18:35Speaker 05

  Apparently, yeah.

• 18:36Speaker 04

  Yeah, they'd never been seen to, yes. Oh, that was the first time.

• 18:39Speaker 03

  I know.

• 18:40Travis Kelce?

  I get it, man.

• 18:40Speaker 02

  I think we all get it. Very understandable, very understandable.

• 18:43Travis Kelce?

  I was just a boyfriend at that point, you know? I wasn't a, I wasn't, I wasn't her husband yet, you know? You don't really know if this is gonna last. So it's kinda, just move out of the way real quick. So we can keep this photo forever?

• 18:56Speaker 02

  Yeah. Hopefully this doesn't go south. Otherwise this photo is not gonna be as.

• 19:02Travis Kelce?

  Shout out to Prince William, man.

• 19:04Speaker 02

  Well, Prince William, don't worry. We had the New Heights graphic team take care of this for you.

• 19:08Travis Kelce?

  Oh, let's see it. Let's see it. Nice.

• 19:13Speaker 02

  There we go.

• 19:15Travis Kelce?

  So good. I gotta ship that to him. Just send it to Buckingham Palace. You think it'll get to him?

• 19:20Speaker 02

  Um, I think if you, uh, forward it, like if you put at Buckingham Palace and attention to Prince William, I think it'll get there.

• 19:25Travis Kelce?

  It all gets to him, right?

• 19:26Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. For sure. Um.

• 19:30Travis Kelce?

  Last thing, Jason, do you want to plug your sumo video that you just dropped? I was just watching Instagram and god damn it, that shit is so fucking good.

• 19:39Speaker 02

  It is up on YouTube. Uh, it's one of the Kelsey versus things on, uh, my YouTube channel where I get to try and do certain things. And listen, I've always wanted to try, uh, sumo wrestling. Stout used to show an undersized sumo wrestler to the group and he was an undersized guy. So I think it's like Taco Niyama Shintado. He was like 220 pounds doing sumo, but he was a judo champion and a wrestler and he knew how to use like his feet and technique and leverage. Bro, he was whooping the fuck out of like 300, 400 pound guys. He's one of the highest level sumo wrestlers in the world at one point.

• 20:13Travis Kelce?

  Insane.

• 20:13Speaker 02

  Very impressive to watch him. It was really, Stout was emphasizing how proper technique and fundamentals and things like that can help you achieve even against bigger opponents, more powerful opponents. So, but ever since watching, I was like, dude, I've always wanted to do sumo. Is there a way to try this out? And we got, um, in contact with my man Zorig and, uh, he is a professional sumo or was a professional sumo wrestler. He and two other guys, uh, were very kind to lend their time. We got to train like a sumo, eat like a sumo, live like a sumo. And then at the end of it, we got to sumo wrestle. I got three matches against each of them, uh, trying to win one if I could. And, uh, you're gonna have to watch the video. I don't know.

• 20:53Travis Kelce?

  Fuck yeah, dude. I'm fucking locked in after this. You wore the diaper.

• 20:56Speaker 02

  It's called a mawashi. It's, it's not called a diaper. It's called a mawashi. The, the one thing that's evident when you watch it on TV or in clips is like, you can tell how like culturally, um, uh, I'm trying to think of like, you know, traditional and like, this is something that's been around for a very long time. So there's a lot of, what's the word I'm looking for? Um, rituals and things that are specific to the sport that honor the past of it and honor the, the people that, uh, have done it or did do it in the past and are doing it now. Um, the way they train, it was ridiculous. Like, you know, so they,

• 21:38Speaker 02

  the, I think it's shetuk is the thing they do at the beginning, you know, when they're raising like each leg?

• 21:45Travis Kelce?

  Hmm.

• 21:47Speaker 02

  So they'll do like a thousand of those a day, not messing. They'll do like a thousand, just like lifting both those legs up. So like, and then they'll go do the rest of the workout. Like the highest level of this. There's the amount of training and

• 22:05Travis Kelce?

  That is their, their cartilage has to be gone.

• 22:09Speaker 02

  Well, what, it is one thing that I didn't understand is like the sport is like, I mean, when you do a match, it's maybe three seconds, like if that, but the, all the training is like thousands of these shetooks, like a bunch of just body weight squats and like, these guys are conditioning like they're running a marathon. Like I, I could not keep up. I legitimately could not keep up. That was a little bit surprising because you would think similar to like a football player only having to go for three seconds, you'd be much more training a different

• 22:40Travis Kelce?

  Explosive movements.

• 22:41Speaker 02

  Style of nervous system. But, um, and actually talking to some of the guys, that was some of the things that are interesting of like where the sports science of sumo is changing and evolving. Like we like to think that football was one of the late adopters because there's an old school nature to the sport. Well, sumo is like, football's like not even close to that nature that it is for sure. Like these guys have been training like this for like thousands of years and to get like coaches to be like, hey, we're going to erase thousand, thousands of years of what made sense back then. You know what I mean? Like it's, it was very cool to see all of the things that go into, you know, how these guys train and what they do.

• 23:20Travis Kelce?

  The culture of the sport, yeah.

• 23:22Speaker 02

  Yeah. That was another thing that was very interesting in doing the training was that there are, there is actually some applicable things to like run blocking and offensive line play. And even just the way they do the squat and mobility like drills. I feel like actually doing some of that mobility stuff and cross training that into offensive lineman in the off season would do guys a lot of good. Cause these guys can bend, man. They get down so low. They have great hip mobility, great ankle flexion. Zorg's ankle flexion was fucking insane. And then also dude, this dude just, the first rep I did with Zorg, we go, I put my hands down and pow. And he told me like, you're supposed to leave with your hat and hands, right? Again, very similar to football,

• 24:07Speaker 02

  like hat and hands, tripod, like boom, right? But you don't do this in sumo, you kind of stay in it. Anyways, dude, my shoulder immediately afterwards, I look at it and it is just bruised already, like black and blue. And Zorg's like, is your shoulder okay? And I was like, is your head okay? You just ran your fucking dome directly into my fucking AC joint. How are you doing, buddy?

• 24:32Travis Kelce?

  Without a concussion proof Rydell helmet.

• 24:34Speaker 02

  Wasn't even phased. He said when he was training, when he was a young sumo, him and another dude bonked heads and his fucking head split open and the coach made him continue to train. Like he wasn't even allowed to sit it out.

• 24:46Travis Kelce?

  See, that's what I'm saying, man.

• 24:48Speaker 02

  I know, we're missing that kind of mentality a little bit. I know, I know. You're right. You're right. You're right.

• 24:53Travis Kelce?

  Well, that was awesome. I can't wait to watch this on YouTube, man.

• 24:55Speaker 02

  It was incredible. Um, yeah, everybody involved with it. Andrew, who, uh, kind of helps, uh, run this. I don't even know if it's like a league or whatever these, what, what these guys are a part of, but Ichii was a grand champion at one point. At one point he was one of nine sumo wrestlers worldwide that had won the essentially like the US open of sumo wrestling in Japan. And I got to wrestle him. He used to be over 500 pounds. I think right now he said he's like, he's in retirement. He's in retirement. He's 460 now.

• 25:22Travis Kelce?

  How's he move? Is he, is he just slow?

• 25:25Speaker 02

  He's retired. He's retired. I mean, he's not. So each, everybody kind of has their own style. Like some guys like Zorg, he's like a ram, dude. He comes out of the gate. I'll send you a video of Zorg. Dude, he comes out with a great lean and great power. Ichii, the bigger you are, the more they just kind of try and belly you up and grab you. Cause once they grab you, there's nothing you can do. They get that, their hands on your Mawashi, you're fucking toast.

• 25:49Travis Kelce?

  We gotta get thinner Mawashis. Are there, are there like, like remember Michael Bennett? Michael Bennett would get the smallest pads ever and you could, you could barely get your hands on them. And then it's like, oh shit, if I can't grab some pads, how the fuck am I blocking this guy? How am I staying in front of him?

• 26:03Speaker 02

  There for sure is a science to like tying the Mawashi so that it's so tight that it's hard to grab. That's definitely part of it. Uh, my Mawashi was cotton. I think the higher level guys use like silk or something like that. Yeah.

• 26:21Travis Kelce?

  Hands just right off of it.

• 26:23Speaker 02

  Dude, I was, I had, I was chafing, brother.

• 26:28Travis Kelce?

  Dude, are you kidding?

• 26:29Speaker 02

  Hard gray cotton?

• 26:34Travis Kelce?

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• 27:52Travis Kelce?

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• 28:08Travis Kelce?

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• 28:25Travis Kelce?

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• 28:43Travis Kelce?

  So we've been talking about Royal Caribbean's Legend of the Seas, the biggest vacation sailing out of Fort Lauderdale this November.

• 28:52Speaker 02

  What about the ultimate family townhouse? Bro, it's three stories.

• 28:57Travis Kelce?

  No way.

• 28:58Speaker 02

  That's right. There's a movie theater in it. There's a slide that drops two floors and a private gaming room. Like

• 29:03Travis Kelce?

  Love that too.

• 29:04Speaker 02

  Who had that growing up?

• 29:05Travis Kelce?

  Nobody. That's not even a kid's dream. That's my dream now.

• 29:10Speaker 02

  16 spots for live music. 16. Swim up bar, piano bar, jazz bar. There's so much going on. You literally can't make it to everything. And that's a good problem to have.

• 29:21Travis Kelce?

  And you need to check out Playmakers Sports Bar and Arcade. Man, that sounds like my kind of spot. They're showing every pro football game this season. That's your game day headquarters right there.

• 29:32Speaker 02

  You gotta get the family on the new Legend of the Seas sailing November 2026 from Fort Lauderdale, Florida.

• 29:38Travis Kelce?

  Visit royalcaribbean.com to learn more. All right now, let's get into some bold topics brought to you by Pepsi. Get into this week in the NFL.

• 29:49Speaker 02

  All righty, bold topics is brought to you by Pepsi. And first, starting off Chiefs three, Seahawks 20. Try out first loss of the season. You guys have been rolling this year. Obviously went up to Seattle to face Kenneth Walker's former team. And, uh, yeah, they got the best of you guys. What are your thoughts on the game, brother?

• 30:08Travis Kelce?

  Ah, man, another, uh, another frustrating performance for, for the offense. I think, um, obviously didn't even get a chance to get into the red zone. They, uh, it felt like they were playing prevent the entire time. It just let the front four, uh, cause havoc in the run game and, and get Pat out of the pocket. And you know, hats off to them. They, they came ready to play. Sunday night up in Seattle, that place was rocking. Um, the 12s were, were loud and, and it was, um, it was a pretty frustrating game from the jump. You know, I, I had another drive killer in the first fucking drive and, uh, got caught in motion, not knowing that the running

• 30:49Travis Kelce?

  back came up to the line with Pat and, uh, just got to get set. That killed that drive. Um, and we were rolling, man. We were rolling that first drive and that kind of stalled us. From there it was just, you know, bad techniques, bad fundamentals. Um, just okay effort. There's a, it, there was a lot of things that we gotta, you know, the attention to detail and, um, and I say this, uh, because that's what I see out of myself on film, you know, didn't play our best, but I can only speak on what I can do better. And, and, and, you know, I'll only tell my side of the story in terms of what I need to be doing to get better. So as a unit, we gotta play better together, which

• 31:32Travis Kelce?

  is making sure that we're all being accountable in every single aspect of the game. You know, if it's the backside of a route, uh, being ready and on time. If it's, you know, the called route that we're trying to get open, being on time and being where you need to be, releasing the right way and, and attacking the defense the right way, making the read easy for Pat to, to get the ball out on time. Uh, so that the offensive line doesn't have to strain for more than what they typically do. It's frustrating because we were, we were rolling as a, as a, as a unit for, for a while there. And, um, I think we're not far off from getting right back to it. Uh, we have an unbelievable, you know, group of guys on the offensive side. And I think a lot of it is just,

• 32:16Travis Kelce?

  you know, coming in with the right mentality and, uh, and a togetherness that, that we're not going to be denied. And I think we need to just, you know, learn from this, feel how it felt, uh, to get our tail kicked like that and never let it happen again.

• 32:29Speaker 02

  I hear you, brother. I mean, listen, you guys have been rolling all season long and you played against a really good team this week who also played a fantastic game. Like gotta give them credit and

• 32:38Travis Kelce?

  Oh, 100%, 100%. But at the same time, we still feel that if we play our best and we play our brand of football.

• 32:44Speaker 02

  Of course.

• 32:44Travis Kelce?

  Um, and not let a team dictate the tempo of the game like that. Um, I think we, uh,

• 32:51Travis Kelce?

  We're better off. I'll say that.

• 32:52Speaker 02

  As you said, the offense struggled in Seattle. Fewest points held to only three, fewest red zone drives, zero second, fewest yards with 213.

• 33:03Speaker 02

  Yeah, the second fewest yards in any of actually one, the 153 games started by Patrick Mahomes, which is a crazy stat. Yeah, man. Mike McDonald knows what he's doing and they got great players over there. Like you said, they'll play a shell. They'll play, you know, this kind of prevent style. Well, if you're gonna do that, you gotta win up front. That you gotta be able to stop the run. A lot of that is, yes, some schematic things that I think that they do really well.

• 33:25Travis Kelce?

  He was doing some, he brought some blitzes at the right time and.

• 33:28Speaker 02

  Yep. But it's also about having guys like Leonard Williams and having, you know, these pieces like, you know, even worry who's playing in and out of like that slot position. Like, he's got to be committed to the run game and also be, uh, you know, do a great job in the passing realm as well. Um, you know, they, they have great pieces to do what they want. Personally, I'd be curious what you think, but like I always didn't mind running like, just like, oh, like, hey, if it's two high safeties, you run the ball. If it's one high safety, you throw the ball. Like, it's not that simple. Some run plays I like more out of a single high. Like you can get some really good angles. Some run plays I don't like out of too high, but there's some that I do. Like, a lot of it is really creating good angles

• 34:11Speaker 02

  in the run game for mate blocks and double teams. Having these guys be able to hang on to those longer and create push. I thought they did a great job of, especially in the run game, playing on your guys' side of the ball, right? Leonard Williams is a beast. Their edges did a great job of condensing the run lanes, backers and everybody like, they did a great job as a defense all around. And that's one of the things Mike McDonald does really well, whether it's, whether he's playing too high, one high, he schemes things up, puts these guys in positions to play things pretty well. What do you think? Cause you played against McDonald in Baltimore, now obviously in Seattle. What do you think about a Mike McDonald defense that causes teams to struggle?

• 34:55Travis Kelce?

  You know, I feel like every time I face McDonald, um, he stays true to, to his style and I, and, and he has the personnel to be able to execute, uh, how he wants to. And you said it right there. It's, uh, he's, he's gonna kind of want to keep everything in front of him in terms of the backend of things, but he's always got an unbelievable D-line that, that just makes it tough to get to the second level on your double teams and, uh, and really forces you to be great on the backside of runs, uh, where, you know, it's typically, you know, the ball ends up coming back to that gap, you know? Looking

• 35:34Travis Kelce?

  at the tape, it, it frustrates me because it definitely felt like, you know, there were ways to attack it that we could have taken advantage of, you know? And, and, and, you know, if we get the opportunity to play him again, I'm sure we'll, we'll, we'll have it geared up and be fired up and ready to go. But looking, looking at it right now, they just, they kind of got us, man. And, uh, and it wasn't just, you know, that scheme. Those guys were flying the fuck around. They played very well together. Um, they were all on the same fucking page in terms of the gap assignments and things like that. There were very little mistakes and the, the mistakes that they, they were making, um, we didn't

• 36:17Travis Kelce?

  capitalize on it. And it's just, it's frustrating as hell. Um, because, you know, I thought we came out in the second half and we had a little bit more of juice and motor and we still just couldn't find a way to, to get the ball past like the 30, 40 yard line. It was just, we, we had to kind of like dink and dunk and, and, and they forced us to be, uh, be good on fourth down, I mean, third downs and essentially fourth downs as well. Um, so, you know, as frustrating, um, as it felt, when you watch the film,

• 36:49Travis Kelce?

  the eye in the sky doesn't lie, man. You see where you could have, you see where you could have won the game. You see why you lost the game and, uh, and you learn from it. And I think we got enough guys in this building to, to look each other in the mirror and look each other in the face. Um, and know exactly how to hold each other accountable. So, uh, and that's the mentality moving forward.

• 37:11Speaker 02

  Yeah. I know I already mentioned Leonard Williams, but we, we talked a little bit about like, they like to keep everything in front of them. I really believe people don't realize how, how much having a great three technique drives the ability to play like two high safeties. If that three technique's getting rolled off the ball, you are fucked. And if you look at all the best defenses, I mean, keep going back, like the, a big common denominator of them is having a great three tech. I mean, you take away maybe like what they're doing in Minnesota where they're blitzing 80% of the time. If you're put a play with two high safeties and you're gonna play with a light box, it don't matter whether you're Tampa Bay Buccaneers with Warren Sapp, what you guys have done in the past, obviously

• 37:55Speaker 02

  with Chris Jones, or we've done with Fletcher Cox or, or Janet Carter. Like, like, there's a common denominator of great defensive tackle play, allowing you to do stuff like that. And I really think Leonard Williams is a huge piece of this. And they have other great, again, even worry, Ernest Jones, like they have great players littered throughout that, that defense. But yeah, um, I'm a huge fan of watching those guys play and I definitely hated playing against Leonard because the big cat can go and he's a really good, he makes a difference, no doubt about it. Well, yeah. Next week, you guys have Denver, obviously coming off of the first game of the year in Arrowhead. This one will be in Mile High. What did the Chiefs need to do to get right before Sunday?

• 38:37Travis Kelce?

  Well, Denver's playing a lot fucking better than they did that first game. You know, they've, if they've caught a stride here, um, and, uh, their offense is starting to put up a lot of points. They're getting back Cooper, who's a huge part of that pass rush and, uh, and being stout in that run game. Um, and, uh, you know, it's gonna be another challenge. We're coming off of a game where we didn't perform well really on any phase. And it's gotta fire you the fuck up, man. You gotta have a nasty taste in your mouth when you lose. You can't, you can't be okay with, you know, being mediocre or, or, or looking around like I wasn't the reason. You gotta fucking have a nasty

• 39:17Travis Kelce?

  and just a disgusting taste in fucking losing in this league and find the fucking, find the answers. And all that means is that you gotta fucking go to work and, uh, and, and you know, it started today and I'll be damned if we go out there and fucking have another fucking showing like that again. I can, I can promise you that.

• 39:36Speaker 02

  Yeah. We have a couple accolades of yours to shout out. You passed Tony Gonzalez for the most receiving yards in NFL history by tight end, including regular and postseason. Congratulations, Trav. That's an enormous fucking record. Number one tight end in NFL history, if you combine the playoffs into their stats, uh, as far as passing, receiving yards are concerned. Uh, you also passed Marvin Harrison and Chris Carter to move into fifth place for most receptions all time, which is insane.

• 40:07Travis Kelce?

  That's all, it's, it's fun stuff, man. It's pretty cool. It's pretty cool stuff to be a part of that. We've said it over the past, you know, probably year I've been in just the discussions of being, you know, top 10 in the receptions and, you know, top five in terms of yards and stuff like that. But it's,

• 40:27Travis Kelce?

  all that shit is hoopla, man. Uh, if you're not winning football games, man, it's, that shit's pointless, man.

• 40:35Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 40:36Travis Kelce?

  And this is such a team game. It's such a team game. The individual stuff is just, you know, it's cool to look at, but at the same time, if I don't have Andy Reid dialing these things up, if I don't have great teammates holding each other accountable, you know, there's no success at all. So it's just, uh, very appreciative of the situation I've been in and, uh, you know, shout out to the guys that have done it before me like a Tony Gonzalez and like a Marvin Harrison and Chris Carter that, you know, make it, make it, you know, that much more, um, of an honor to be in the conversations with them.

• 41:11Speaker 02

  I love it, Trav. Love it. All righty. Want to move on?

• 41:15Travis Kelce?

  Yeah, man. We'll see you guys out there at Mile High this week, man. Um, and, uh, you'll see a lot hungrier football team. I can promise you that. Um, Eagles 21, Cowboys 38. Little Monday night football. Jason was back in the link. Got to see his birds take on the Cowboys. One of the biggest rivalries in the National Football League and the history of the National Football League. Had a lot of fun cutups of Troy Aikman in his days against the Eagles, uh, during the broadcast. I fucking love those. Um, hearing, hearing you guys talk to Troy, uh, on the desk before the game was absolutely electric too. Him talk about that rivalry and, um, and what it meant to him and just how tough it was playing against those Eagles teams in the late eighties and nineties, man. But.

• 42:00Travis Kelce?

  Moving on to this game Eagles obviously banged up with a lot of injuries, got a few guys back. And honestly, I thought it was a good showing throughout the first half and give me your thoughts on the game, brother.

• 42:11Speaker 02

  Well, listen, the first half, good showing from the offense. I mean, uh, moved the ball very well for the majority of the half. They ran the ball really well selfishly. I mean, offensive line was playing great like I've, you've wanted to see this outside of the first play of the game. Landon kinda got a little, uh, you know, happy to go help his teammate, lost the linebacker. They've had an issue and under center play action with the, play actions with allowing a free runner off of blitz. That happened the first play, but Tanner was able to get it out to Saquon and they got a, a big little chunk play to start the, uh, start the game. So it didn't matter, but outside of that, man, it was a, a pretty good game up front.

• 42:51Speaker 02

  Yeah, there's a couple of plays, but those guys played really well as a progress happening there, which is encouraging. Uh, Landon Dickerson, obviously back in the lineup and you know, listen, like Markel Bell starting to look like, you know,

• 43:06Speaker 02

  the last three starts, he's put together some really solid tape. The first one out there gets put in a tough position, also other things happening, but gives up five or six pressures. Since then, I think he's only given up like one, maybe, maybe two, like he's, he's playing a lot better. Drew Kendall back out there, it, you know, it was a much better showing up front for those guys. Saquon looked great until the, I mean, literally hurt his hamstring very early in the game. You could tell he re-aggravated it when he's hurdling.

• 43:32Travis Kelce?

  You could tell it was, he, he, it, the short stuff and the quick movements and the, and the getting through the hole was good. It was the, it was the, when you gotta open it up and yes, when you gotta open up the gate is that, and that's when the hammy really, yeah, really gets strained, but.

• 43:46Speaker 02

  I mean, it really happened.

• 43:47Travis Kelce?

  He's a fucking dog and a warrior for fighting through it and, and trying to find a way to help the team out and everything, but.

• 43:53Speaker 02

  The first big run he had, he had to like kinda jump and hurdle a kinda shoestring tackle and he, uh, you could tell with the way he landed that he landed with a lot of weight and, and power on that leg specifically. And from that moment, he was not running the same. So, um, you know, and he was a big part of the game. But I think we talked about it at halftime, at halftime, he was in the play game for eight plays and all eight plays. It was six carries and two receptions. Like they were, he was like the guy they wanted to be healthy for the game and they lost him early. Thought Tanner played a lot better, obviously at the end of the game, the pick, it had a missed throw over the middle.

• 44:35Speaker 02

  Like it wasn't the second half he'd want, but he played much better throughout the game. Had some really good throws, especially big time third down throws that I thought extended drives.

• 44:46Speaker 02

  He should be really happy. Makai Lemon, dude, I, he was a tough motherfucker yesterday. Overshown, I mean, hit him hard as fuck two or three times, one time for a touchdown.

• 44:57Travis Kelce?

  That motherfucker looks stout.

• 44:58Speaker 02

  He just popped right back up. Like it was, I was very pleased with the way Makai Lemon and his toughness in the way he played the game yesterday as a receiver. Again, offensively, you're missing Devante Smith, you're missing Octavian Wicks. You know, it, you lose Saquon Barkley's affecting this early, you're, Jalen Hurts is out of the game. For them to go and play that way against admittedly a bad Dallas Cowboys defense, I still was, I'd be lying if I say I wasn't happy with how the offense performed, especially in the first half. And even into the second half, if it wouldn't have got out of hand, I think the offense would have played a little bit better. The big negative from the game from my perspective, it's just the defense played really bad.

• 45:38Speaker 02

  And yeah, Dallas is a great offense, but the one thing I've been optimistic about with the Eagles is like, yeah, the offense is bad. But like defensively, I still feel like Vic Fangio and these, this personnel is going to figure it out. They're a great defense and if they're playing well, the games will be close. All the offense has to do is just kinda get to be mediocre to above average and we can have a good football team, a really good football.

• 46:03Travis Kelce?

  Take care of the ball and put up some points. Yeah.

• 46:05Speaker 02

  This was a really bad game and you know, um, Dallas is good offensively. Dak is a great player. They have good receivers. They ran the fucking ball and controlled the line of scrimmage up and down the field all game long. And we have a great interior D line between Jordan Davis, a Jomo, Jalen Carter, great linebacker with Zach Bond. Like I did not anticipate that happening, even though Dallas has a good interior O-line themselves. Tyler Smith is one of the best run blockers. Uh, you know, Booker can also block very well from the right guard position. You know, Javante Williams running through tackles, missed tackles, dragging guys for four or five extra yards. He was.

• 46:47Travis Kelce?

  Yeah. 150 on the ground.

• 46:49Speaker 02

  It was, it was a frustrating performance from the defense. And before this game, they had been on the field, the fourth most of any defense in the NFL. Part of that is because the offense has just been so bad at getting, you know, sustaining drives. Bad, been a lot of third and long situations. So the defense is just on the field longer and that wears on you. And their fourth quarter, you could see the stat difference between the first two and first, uh, three quarters. And then the fourth quarter for the Eagles defense. And then in the fourth quarter, it was a huge uptick in points and you could tell they were just getting worn down. I was optimistic if the offense put together a better performance, the defense would play better and it just didn't happen.

• 47:30Travis Kelce?

  Yeah. And to be fair, there were a lot of fucking plays being made over there. The Pickens touchdown was insane, absolutely unbelievable catch. Obviously C D Lamb to, to play man to man on him all game long is, that's a tough task for fucking anybody.

• 47:44Speaker 02

  Well, they're playing like man to man, but they also were playing like, yeah, it was, you know how it is now, like it's zone, but it's matched. So it kinda is a man, is it zone? Like, cause what they were doing, I thought really well in the red zone in particular is they were lining up C D or Pickens in the slot to get Makuba or Cooper to get Reek and these guys in, uh, and Quinian off of them. You know what I mean? Now, even when teams are in man, like they don't, they try to hide whether it's zone, man, what it is. So they're not going to put the corner inside and lock him on the X receiver, right? They're gonna try and still keep you guessing offensively. And they got into some favorable matchups. You know what I mean? Like that's kinda what you give up, a bad performance from the defense.

• 48:29Speaker 02

  They've now had two bad games really in particular, the Chicago game and this one, their stats, uh, because of these two games alone, make them look like a pretty bad defense. I still think they have good players, really good.

• 48:41Travis Kelce?

  Well, again, they fucking have.

• 48:43Speaker 02

  And Vic Fangio, if there's one thing I've seen from him is his ability to adapt as a season goes, right? There's been like two or three seasons now where the start the season, the defense has kinda been a little sluggish. They have games like this and then it settles in. I'm still optimistic that Vic, you know, Clint Hurt, all these guys on the defensive side of the ball can figure out how to get this defense running and being more effective, especially, um, as the season goes. Needless to say, a frustrating game as an Eagles fan to watch that one.

• 49:15Travis Kelce?

  Well, uh, let's get into something that was absolutely hysterical apart about of the game. And then was absolutely hilarious was the pregame stuff that, uh, you and old Pat McAfee got into. Giving away two tickets, Jason, when I tell you I knew what was coming.

• 49:35Travis Kelce?

  When, first of all, the, the, the, to paint the picture for everybody, Jason and Pat were, were giving away or giving an opportunity for somebody to win two free Super Bowl tickets.

• 49:48Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 49:49Travis Kelce?

  And in this, it was a, they had to catch a punt from a jugs machine, which is.

• 49:56Speaker 02

  Hard.

• 49:57Travis Kelce?

  Insane to ask someone. That's the thing. So insane to ask someone to do, and also insane to try and get Stanford Steve to fucking pinpoint that goddamn thing. Dude, I felt so bad for Steve. He's like all getting fucking word over the radio. Hey, that was 20 yards long. Hey, that was 20 yards short. He's over there fucking with the dial trying to get that thing. Dude, it was absolutely hilarious. Shout out to Steve. But then they did the slow cut in to who was catching this ball. I forget her name. I did shout out to Marquette. Marquette, if you were a fucking champ, you put the helmet, his shoulder pads, I had the gloves.

• 50:34Speaker 02

  Bro.

• 50:37Travis Kelce?

  And when Pat asked her, have you ever, what was it? Played sports or caught a football or anything like that?

• 50:44Speaker 02

  The first thing he asked her was how old she was, bro. Marquette, awesome. She was at, at best five, two. She was tiny.

• 50:54Travis Kelce?

  I thought it was a child when they zoomed in.

• 50:56Speaker 02

  That's what I like. But when we came in, I was like, bro, is this of like, can we do this?

• 51:04Speaker 02

  Pat was like, how old are you? Marquette was like, I'm 29 and we're like, okay, perfect. All right. Sounds good.

• 51:09Speaker 06

  Marquita, how old are you, Marquita?

• 51:13Speaker 06

  Telford, where Telford? Telford, okay. Are you a diehard Eagles fan?

• 51:18Speaker 07

  Absolutely.

• 51:19Speaker 06

  Okay. So when you.

• 51:22Travis Kelce?

  This is electric, dude.

• 51:24Speaker 06

  To catch it for you for these two Super Bowl tickets. You said, yeah, right. Let me do it. Can you tell me a little bit?

• 51:31Speaker 06

  Have you ever played football or any other sports?

• 51:33Speaker 07

  I used to throw a ball with my stepdad when I was younger.

• 51:42Travis Kelce?

  I got it. I got this in the fucking bag. That is the most legit punt ever. This is like an NFL side punt.

• 51:51Travis Kelce?

  Now we're all Steve, Steve, Steve, Steve, Steve, Steve, Steve, Steve, Steve.

• 51:59Travis Kelce?

  Great.

• 52:12Travis Kelce?

  Oh my God, dude, absolutely electric. Absolutely electric.

• 52:23Travis Kelce?

  Going to the Super Bowl. Oh my gosh, absolutely electric, man.

• 52:29Speaker 02

  It was so good. That's three piece and swag.

• 52:34Speaker 02

  Was kind of spearheading it. So was Pat. Like, everybody was kind of all in on doing something like this and having fun with it. And obviously, Pat, Pat does the kick on game day, which just doesn't, I mean, as a kid, he just won like, what? $3 million kicking that ball.

• 52:45Travis Kelce?

  Yeah, that thing's good. That's good.

• 52:47Speaker 02

  It's incredible.

• 52:48Travis Kelce?

  And it's fucking iconic. It's, you know, you're seeing it every week. I fucking look, I watch it every single time it comes by my, by my phone, knowing I'm either in meetings or on a fucking plane somewhere.

• 53:00Speaker 02

  Well, Pat's so good on the mic, like interacting with those kids. And like, obviously, like with, with Marquita, oh my God, dude. Do we, we, we were interviewing Jerry and Pat was giving me shit for this. We're interviewing Jerry, like Pat's, he's so good. We're on the field. And Pat, I just asked Jerry Jones if he wants to do an interview. And Jerry's like, oh yeah, sure. I'm like, are we fucking about, we're just about to interview Jerry Jones?

• 53:19Travis Kelce?

  Hell, yeah, we are.

• 53:20Speaker 02

  And Pat asked him a question. And he's like, Jason, go ahead. And I'm like,

• 53:26Speaker 02

  Jason, what do you think about, uh, you know, obviously this game means a lot to fill it out. Like, I was like,

• 53:31Speaker 02

  it's bad afterwards. Like, it looked like your brain, like, did like a freeze there.

• 53:35Travis Kelce?

  It's like, yeah, I thought this was all you.

• 53:38Speaker 02

  Yeah, I didn't know I was gonna do anything. All right.

• 53:40Travis Kelce?

  Good. That's so good. So, uh, Jerry on, on Landman, uh, did you?

• 53:45Speaker 02

  We both brought that up too. That monologue in Landman will, you can say what you want about Jerry and like criticize him as an owner or whatever. That Landman monologue and what he represents, that was pretty fucking awesome. Even as an Eagles fan, fuck that. That was, that was great.

• 54:01Travis Kelce?

  I hope we get to see more of that, man. That shit was electric. And honestly, whoever, whoever brought this idea up, it's, it's one of the most, it doesn't matter who gets the opportunity. If you fuck, it's the most electrifying thing. You could put somebody that is not in sports in a moment.

• 54:20Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 54:20Travis Kelce?

  And, and just make it all about like, the kick is perfect on, on, uh, what do you call it? College game day is perfect for that. But to receive a punt, I mean, I can, I can't even count how many times we did that in college where at the end of a practice, we'd have a big guy go out there and try and catch a punt. Somebody who isn't used to it, uh, the, one of the managers or one of the equipment guys, you know, one of the, one of the trainers get out there.

• 54:45Speaker 02

  Dude, I dropped the first one. If you haven't done it, it is not easy.

• 54:49Travis Kelce?

  Yeah. I mean, listen, that thing is coming down like a fucking missile of 57 yard kick.

• 54:56Speaker 02

  And you're surrounded by all these people. I'm like, I don't know where the fuck I'm about to run into somebody. But yeah, it was not easy. We talked about maybe doing some other ones too, but.

• 55:05Travis Kelce?

  Yeah, maybe we need to get Jets Jake instead of getting a yard. Maybe we just need to snook some fucking, some punts at you, Jake, and see if you, see if you're athletic enough to even catch the ball.

• 55:17Speaker 02

  Instead of the T-shirt cannon at the New Heights tailgate, just get a jugs machine and launch T-shirts and a jugs machine out of it.

• 55:24Speaker 02

  Jugs machines are great.

• 55:25Travis Kelce?

  Yeah.

• 55:27Speaker 02

  Really, just anything with the word jug attached is usually pretty good.

• 55:33Travis Kelce?

  Okay, I, I, listen, I'm in on that. Before we get out of the Eagles, uh, how, how difficult is it? Then this isn't necessarily me asking this question, but I am curious. How hard is it to keep a team locked in when the starting QB is out for the season? And Jason, you've had different instances where you've had a quarterback come in and it gets really frustrating, then had a quarterback come in and you go win the Super Bowl.

• 56:03Speaker 02

  That's right. Well, that's what I was about to say. It's like, I've, I've been a part of it working out really good. Uh, obviously with Nick Foles. Um, to me, obviously, the starting quarterback ends up being the leader, the orchestrator, the guy running the show offensively. So it's, it's a major loss. And I don't want to understate that aspect of it. Like, it is incredibly, you know, it, it hits you the hardest.

• 56:29Travis Kelce?

  Play on the field.

• 56:29Speaker 02

  You the hardest as a unit emotionally and also as a player and what they can do and what their strengths are and what you do as an offense. It's the most impactful of anybody getting injured. That being said though, like your teammates with all these guys and you're excited genuinely as a teammate when another guy gets an opportunity. Like, I remember when Nate Sudfeld would come in the game, like, fuck, hey, we're about to roll with Nate.

• 56:51Travis Kelce?

  Let's go, baby.

• 56:52Speaker 02

  Let's go, Suddy. Let's show what you got. And then I, and then of course I roll, I fucking got a low snap right back to him, fumble. And I'm like, goddamn, everybody hates Suddy, but that was a hundred percent on me. And I'm, you know, it's again, like you're, you're obviously, you're, you're feeling for the guy that, that is down, the starter and the guy that means a lot to your organization and everything. At the same time, you're excited for other guys when they get their opportunities as a teammate and you want to go out there and ball out. Now, what's hard isn't necessarily that aspect. They've had five losses in a row. That's when it gets hard to keep things on rail and keep it together. And it's not even just the players. It's like everything, man. Cause everybody starts questioning everything and you should, cause you're losing games.

• 57:31Speaker 02

  But it takes, you know, this is where great coaches, leaders, this is where you get tested as a ball club and how you weather this, you know what I mean? How you keep everything together and focused on the stuff that matters and not getting out of touch with the bullshit happening in the media and people saying stuff and all the things that don't really make any two fucks of a difference with how good of a football team we are. That's where, um, you gotta be locked in and you roll with the guys that are out there. You miss the guys that aren't, uh, you're excited for guys to get an opportunity, even if it's not, uh, you know, the best situation for your team. So that's how I've always felt about it. I don't know. How do you feel? I mean?

• 58:12Travis Kelce?

  Yeah, last year was the same exact thing. I was, I was obviously, you know, losing Pat Mahomes, who, you know, best quarterback in the fucking league. I think that's, that's something you can never fucking ever replace.

• 58:24Speaker 02

  Right.

• 58:25Travis Kelce?

  And, you know, having Chris Oladukun come in after, um, after Garner went down really quick. I think it was like first or second drive, he got banged up.

• 58:35Speaker 02

  Right. Yeah. Shots, Chris, too. What about, what about Henny? What about Chad Henny?

• 58:40Travis Kelce?

  Chad, Hand Dog came in. He, um, it wasn't a complete like takeover the season, but.

• 58:45Speaker 02

  Finish a game, is a finish a playoff game.

• 58:47Travis Kelce?

  Few times, a few times in the playoffs. It actually happened twice in the playoffs. Um, anything is possible, baby. Shout out to Chad.

• 58:54Speaker 02

  Hey.

• 58:55Travis Kelce?

  You know, I've had a few. I've actually had old, uh, tricky Nick Foles out there, uh, stepping up and, uh, and coming in and winning us, winning us a few ballgames. Uh, when he was here in Kansas City. So, you know, it's, it's like you said, you gotta, you gotta just rally around him, man. Um, how long is, uh, the Mortman missile been in Philly?

• 59:14Speaker 02

  Oh man, Tanner's been in there since the Super Bowl.

• 59:17Travis Kelce?

  Because I know they, they moved on from Andy Dalton, but I wasn't sure if that was somebody they went out and picked up.

• 59:22Speaker 02

  I think he was drafted my last year. I think this is the last year in his rookie deal. I think he's, this is fourth year.

• 59:27Travis Kelce?

  I'll tell you what, man, he's, he's not playing terrible football, you know, he's, he's, there's a few throws I'm sure he wanted back and few opportunities that he wishes he would have capitalized on, but he's, he's not playing a bad football.

• 59:40Speaker 02

  The first game of the year, he, you could tell he was a little bit like rusty and everything. The first, his first game. Uh, this week he was great in the first half and he played, he still had some good throws in the second half, but there was a couple of misses and whatnot. It wasn't a bad game. He didn't, you know, Tanner played fine. I think that you, he's going to keep hopefully getting better, uh, as this stretch keeps going. You know, you get,

• 1:00:03Travis Kelce?

  I'll tell you what, that last.

• 1:00:04Speaker 02

  You get Dotavion Wicks. It was a great play, right?

• 1:00:07Travis Kelce?

  It was a fucking hell of a play.

• 1:00:09Speaker 02

  Yeah. Now, you know, shoot, again, there might've been another throw there. I don't know. I don't know how to evaluate that as well as other people do.

• 1:00:17Speaker 02

  And he missed a, a, a, uh, an end breaker, uh, before that, that was wide open that he just hit. Like, kind of like, almost like nose dive. Yeah, like, kind of like, yeah. But outside of that, you know, Tanner played a pretty good game, I thought. Uh, really the whole offense. I mean, the second half, again, they just, they keep kind of stalling out in the second half of these games. They were, I think, last place in second half points per game or something like that, coming into the game at five points, something. Ended up only getting seven in the second half against Dallas. So, you know, they're, they're going to have to find a way to clean up these second halves. And, uh, not stalling out as an offense and finishing them.

• 1:01:00Travis Kelce?

  Well, back to the drawing board, baby. Who you guys got next week?

• 1:01:04Speaker 02

  Got the commanders next week. Jaden Daniels is playing a lot better. Um, why, they almost came back and beat San Francisco, uh, which was a shocker because they were getting their ass whooped in the, in the first half. That game wasn't even a game. And then all of a sudden, freaking, they stormed it back. And they're, again, all, all the NFC East teams are now are hungry because all these guys need these wins bad. It's been a bad start to the season. All the coaches are under questions and scrutiny. Dan Quinn, I mean, I don't know. There's a person I'm a bigger fan of than Dan Quinn. I love that guy. It seems like as an individual and the way he talks about his players and like what he personifies as a head coach, but at the same time, they're going through it right now.

• 1:01:45Travis Kelce?

  Yeah.

• 1:01:46Speaker 02

  And so is the Philadelphia Eagles, right? And so was Dallas. Dallas needed that win bad. So it's going to be a, a very physical game, I would bet. It's in Washington this time around. You know, Philadelphia is going to have, I mean, I guess Saquon's probably, I don't know. I don't want to lead into injury discussions because I got no fucking idea, but.

• 1:02:07Speaker 02

  You know, the defense is gonna have to go. I'm sure Vic is gonna have these guys freaking. Same thing the offense has been going through. The defense is gonna be going through it this week and all throughout. Trying to get it corrected, trying to make sure that the, you know, the defensive line is getting home, getting pressure on the quarterback. I mean, Dak was back there just fucking, he had way too much time, had no pressure throughout the rest, the whole game, right? And he's too good of a quarterback and most NFL two quarterbacks are too good. If you just give them that kind of time, they will pick you apart. Thank you to our partner Pepsi.

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• 1:02:58Speaker 02

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• 1:05:21Travis Kelce?

  Let's get to the rest of the NFL, baby. Undefeateds are down to just one. Obviously the Vikings are the last standing lossless team in the NFL. Are we buying, are we buying the Vikings?

• 1:05:35Speaker 02

  Hell no. Not until they get a quarter. Listen, I, I, I think the Vikings are incredible. What Brian Flores is doing is unreal. The fact that they are undefeated, like I, I love what they're doing. There ain't no chance I'm buying the Vikings until they get more consistent, better play from the offense. I just don't. Eventually they're gonna play good teams. They're gonna force them to be a productive offense. And I have not seen that yet to date from Minnesota.

• 1:06:00Travis Kelce?

  Yeah. First ranked defense, uh, 27th ranked offense. Are offenses ever going to figure out Brian Flores' blitz like frenzy?

• 1:06:13Speaker 02

  I mean, he's, he's been doing it. Uh, so it's not like, I feel like just saying it's, you know, the, he's been doing a lot of this stuff for a couple of years now and it's been successful, but teams have found ways to attack it. He's been very good this year and he's, I mean, Chicago's offense and Ben Johnson, what they've done this year. They've been one of the most explosive putting up points offenses in the NFL. I mean, I, they held them to what? Three points? Like they're rolling as a unit. I just don't believe, if you're gonna be a legitimate contender in this league, you gotta be playing well on both sides of the ball come the playoffs. And they are just like, for how unreal they are on defense,

• 1:06:57Speaker 02

  that offense is gonna hold them back when they played the Bills, they play you guys, they play whoever. Like it's gonna be a problem in my opinion, especially when you're playing really good quarterbacks. Now, if they start turning around offensively, like Kyler starts playing better, you know, whatever. But as of right now, I just don't see it. But yeah, but what Flores is doing, the way he's able to fucking send these all out pressures on first, second down. A lot of it is just building a six man front. So for a long time, the NFL, it was either a four man front or a five man front. It's like an under front in base or a bare front with five guys on the line of scrimmage. Or these Seattle teams and other four down nickel defenses, where you have four down lineman. There are certain runs you like to these fronts, right?

• 1:07:41Speaker 02

  A four down front, you're getting more double teams on the interior guys. You could drive those guys off the ball. Five man front, less double teams, but you can go laterally and attack the C gap between the tackle, tight end. Your pullers, there's less guys to react to that at the second level. So you start thinking of these defenses and families and what do you like to do?

• 1:08:02Travis Kelce?

  Right.

• 1:08:03Speaker 02

  The year that the Rams went to the Super Bowl, Vic Fangio actually was doing it as well. When we played him in that playoff game that same season, this would have been 2019. Defenses started playing 6-1 more in the regular part of the field. 6-1 used to be a goal line defense, right? Like this is what you played in short yardage situations, inside the five yard line, all gapped out to just make sure teams can't run it for an easy one or two yards. You're gonna try and stop it at the line. Fangio was starting to do this in the regular part of the field. And we played a playoff game and he would hold back one of the D linemen. And right as soon as we break the, like about to break the huddle, he'd run them on the field.

• 1:08:49Speaker 02

  And I'd get out there and we have a run called on and all of a sudden they're in a six man front. I'm like, bro, we can't run this fucking play this. Like this play, like we don't have anything to block the outside back or like we're an 11 personnel. It was a fucking complete shit show. And when teams get into 6-1, it takes you out of a lot of your run plays. And it forces you to kind of go to like outside zone to a tight end wing counter like,

• 1:09:15Speaker 02

  there's not, there's only so many things you have to that kind of structure that really is that appetizing in a run game.

• 1:09:23Travis Kelce?

  Yeah. And it's like what you have in the game, if that surprises you.

• 1:09:26Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:09:27Travis Kelce?

  Too.

• 1:09:27Speaker 02

  That same year, New England in the playoff game against the Rams, they were playing a ton of 6-1 and it fucked up the Rams run game completely, right? They were not ready for it and it was the exact same situation. And it was like a legendarily low scoring, uh, defensive or, uh, Super Bowl performance. What I like about what Flores is doing is he's finding ways to get to 6-1 without shelling out with like four big D linemen and two big outside backer, goal line defense. Like they'll build it out of nickel. They'll build it out of freaking base. They'll build it out of whatever personnel they want. The corners will be the guys on the end of the line of scrimmage.

• 1:10:09Speaker 02

  And they find a way to also not be so as aggressive in that front where that the backend is compromised. And then they'll build the 6-1 front like Fangio will do, and then they'll drop the edges out if it's not run.

• 1:10:22Travis Kelce?

  You gotta have some smart ball players. You're doing that. You're doing all that shit. You gotta have some fucking guys that understand, you know, the message behind the defense. Cause a lot of the times defense is just, listen, you guys set the edge, you guys create havoc in the middle. Everybody has a gap and we're gonna simplify this thing. If you've got some guys out there doing that shit, yeah, that's, uh, that's gonna be tough.

• 1:10:44Speaker 02

  Yeah. I mean, and it's, and it's working really well for them. And I'm, I'm a huge fan of like just how they get to 6-1, they'll blitz an inside back or spike a three technique. But you can see kind of what they're trying to accomplish and how they do it in a really smart way. How they don't get, compromise themselves for explosive plays on the backend as a result of it. How they stall to run out, create negatives.

• 1:11:08Speaker 02

  It's a very fun defense to watch play. Um, and Flores is absolutely crushing it. Niners also lost to the Falcons, the other unbeaten, the other unbeaten team to lose this past week. Falcons are kind of rolling now. They had a little tough start down there with LaFleur or Stefanski, but they are rolling now.

• 1:11:31Travis Kelce?

  Penix is starting to kind of settle in there, man. And, uh, and obviously Bijon Robinson, another fucking absolutely amazing running back, man. You get him in space and get him one on one with somebody, man. He is not easy to bring down. Yeah, the Niners got banged up, man. The Niners are banged up. Obviously Mike Evans was a huge part of the, the first five games, six games. You're talking about that, that commanders game where they came back. Well, Mike Evans went out. And I think that's a huge piece to open it up things in the middle for, for their tight ends, obviously George. And, um, their run game is, is night and day different. When you, when you have to, you know, account for everybody on the backend. So Niners, uh, a tough one against the Falcons, but, uh,

• 1:12:15Travis Kelce?

  just got to force Buckner. So probably gonna be pretty stout on defense again. Dolphins got their first win against the Jets. Uh, unfortunate for Jets Jake over there.

• 1:12:32Speaker 02

  Jake, what are your thoughts? What are your thoughts on Aaron Glenn, Jake?

• 1:12:35Speaker 03

  He's gotta go. It's over.

• 1:12:39Travis Kelce?

  He's gotta go.

• 1:12:40Speaker 02

  Calling for Eric Glenn's head. Wow.

• 1:12:44Speaker 06

  I mean.

• 1:12:44Speaker 02

  What a loyal soldier Jets Jake is. No, go ahead Jake.

• 1:12:48Speaker 06

  No, like he had a well deserved shot. I think a lot of people were calling for him, maybe for a change.

• 1:12:54Speaker 02

  He had a well deserved shot. He's already fired him in his head.

• 1:12:57Speaker 06

  He's 0 and 8 against this division. Have you seen that stat that's been going around the?

• 1:13:02Travis Kelce?

  0 and 8?

• 1:13:03Speaker 06

  0 and 8 against AFC East.

• 1:13:05Travis Kelce?

  It's tough, man.

• 1:13:07Speaker 06

  And he, uh, the Jets have been outscored 107 to six, the last two minutes of the first half during Eric Glenn's tenure. Like that's just a coaching thing. That's just coaching. So.

• 1:13:19Speaker 02

  He had your daughter undefeated as a Jets fan for the first time in the history of unborn babies since like the 90s and you're gonna call for his head?

• 1:13:29Speaker 06

  He had some great memories. He had some great memories.

• 1:13:34Speaker 06

  And I loved him as a player. He's a great, he's a great Jet. That's what makes this so hard is that.

• 1:13:39Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:13:40Speaker 06

  He's, he's not, he's not the coach. We're back to the drawing board. Get an offensive minded head coach in the building this time. That's.

• 1:13:47Speaker 02

  Not, not a fan of the defensive minded coaches.

• 1:13:50Speaker 06

  I just think, uh, we've tried that over and over and over and over and over and over and over again, with the exception of Adam Gase. And besides that, we have yet to try like an offensive minded head coach. So that's, that's my big plan to fix the Jets is go get an offensive minded head coach.

• 1:14:08Speaker 02

  I think you guys might want to focus on getting good players, uh, first and foremost. I think that would go a long way.

• 1:14:14Speaker 06

  They have good pieces like Omar Cooper looks like a good piece. Him and Garrett Wilson, the offensive line. They've got two good tackles. Like they've got good pieces. They just.

• 1:14:25Travis Kelce?

  Jake, do you think you could catch a, a 57 yard punt from a jug, from a jugs machine?

• 1:14:30Speaker 06

  Funny you ask this Travis, cause Brandon and I hit the jugs machine at Titan U.

• 1:14:34Travis Kelce?

  Okay.

• 1:14:35Speaker 06

  I think we have clips.

• 1:14:38Speaker 06

  I don't know that it's 57 miles an hour, but.

• 1:14:41Speaker 02

  Yeah, this is not the same at all.

• 1:14:43Travis Kelce?

  No, this is, this is not the same. Also, I can tell just by this, there's not a fucking chance.

• 1:14:48Speaker 06

  Oh, God.

• 1:14:51Speaker 02

  Well, honestly.

• 1:14:53Travis Kelce?

  Only one way to put it.

• 1:14:54Speaker 02

  Honestly, if you're gonna catch it with your chest, I do think that this might be actually not even appropriate to like do if you're gonna catch a punt 50 feet in the air, come down. If it hits your chest, I don't know.

• 1:15:05Speaker 06

  Oh, you're worried about it?

• 1:15:06Speaker 02

  Yes. I'm worried about the ticker.

• 1:15:08Speaker 06

  But I'll wear pads. Oh.

• 1:15:10Speaker 02

  Okay. All right. All right. All right.

• 1:15:11Travis Kelce?

  You, you better wear pads. We're actually not even.

• 1:15:13Speaker 06

  She was full padded. I, I would do it in full pads. I bet I could catch, uh, if you gave me five shots in a punt, I bet I could get, I snag at least two.

• 1:15:23Speaker 02

  No. I'll take that bet right now. I'll take that bet right now. I will take that bet right now. What are we betting? What are we betting?

• 1:15:30Travis Kelce?

  Oh, what are we betting Jake?

• 1:15:33Speaker 06

  Well, now I'm way less confident.

• 1:15:35Travis Kelce?

  No, no, no, no.

• 1:15:38Speaker 02

  Well.

• 1:15:39Travis Kelce?

  Put your money where your mouth is. Two out of five. You said two out of five.

• 1:15:44Speaker 06

  We'll think of something. We can settle this in Philadelphia in two weeks.

• 1:15:48Speaker 02

  I admire your confidence. All right. Well, the Giants are first place in the NFC East. Um, Cam Scataboo drew an unnecessary roughness penalty as a ball carrier.

• 1:16:01Travis Kelce?

  I just don't get it, man.

• 1:16:03Speaker 02

  Well, I mean, I get it. I understand why they're calling it. I think it's the dumbest fucking thing in the world and I hate that it's a penalty.

• 1:16:08Travis Kelce?

  I don't think this, and it's like.

• 1:16:11Speaker 02

  Let's show the play for people that aren't aware.

• 1:16:21Speaker 02

  Not at football. God, that's awesome.

• 1:16:26Travis Kelce?

  Was it the crown of the helmet thing?

• 1:16:28Speaker 02

  I think you can't lower your head, the crown of your helmet, and you can't forcibly like attack the defender with the crown of your helmet. I think that's pretty much the gist of the way they want this officiated.

• 1:16:38Travis Kelce?

  But if he's just trying to lower his pads and accelerate.

• 1:16:42Speaker 02

  This is my thing.

• 1:16:43Travis Kelce?

  How are you supposed to, and this is for both sides of the ball here. I'm not saying this just because he's a, he's carrying the ball. I'm saying the same thing is if you're a defender trying to tackle, you know, and everybody was saying a lot in the, the hip drop tackle when I rolled my ankle a few weeks ago. I gotta fucking pick my goddamn feet up. That guy's gotta get my ass down. I'm 260 pounds. He's gotta fucking find a way to, to get me on the fucking ground. It's the, it's the name of the game.

• 1:17:10Speaker 02

  I will say the head stuff is obviously different from the, the league. The league has continually tried to get these big helmet to helmet contacts out of the game. And this is a way, I also think one of the reasons they call this is just to have a version of this that is for the offensive player, right? Cause it is unfortunate that the defensive players are the ones that get hit with these fines constantly hitting receivers or quarterbacks or whoever with that crown of their helmet or their head, head to head hits. So my issue is first of all, I don't think it's a penalty if a tackler goes in and just fucking land base a ball carrier with his helmet. I haven't seen that. It is against a defenseless player, but if a guy has the ball, you guys are squared up. A linebacker come in, lower his head and fucking tackle you as hard as he wants. And you should be able to,

• 1:17:55Speaker 02

  because it's football and as a running back.

• 1:17:58Travis Kelce?

  Wearing a helmet and that's.

• 1:18:02Travis Kelce?

  And that's what's supposed to protect you.

• 1:18:05Speaker 02

  I get the whole thing of like, you shouldn't be able to use the helmet as a weapon, but I, I just disagree. When you're a ball carrier, dude, if, if the running back hits the defensive player with the crown of his helmet and you get run over, that's, that's the defensive guy's fault. Hit him in the fucking legs. Hit him like, what are we talking about? You're the one who tried to tackle him up top. I, what the fuck? I think it's a dumbass penalty. I think that the runner should have the ability to lower his shoulder and gain yardage however he wants. And if his head goes down with it, that's the way it should. I'm not a fan of the way this is called. I understand it's a penalty and this is what they wanted, how they wanted to officiate it. I actually think he more just lowered his shoulders. I didn't think he actually lowered his head as much.

• 1:18:49Travis Kelce?

  That's the thing. It was more of just his pads got low and that's just kind of.

• 1:18:53Speaker 02

  It was more of he just ran the fucking dude over and the guy was embarrassed and he lied there for a second. And the league was like, oh, we gotta find Cam Scataboo. That's the fucking dumbest goddamn thing I've ever seen. It's fucking stupid.

• 1:19:07Travis Kelce?

  Yeah, that sucks.

• 1:19:09Speaker 02

  I mean, and, and I would say that by saying it's not stupid about player safety. The NFL is trying their best to make the game safer and most of these rules I am in favor of because it has helped defenseless players. But some of this stuff, I think they've gone too far on and a running back, in my opinion, should be able to lower his head and try and run for more yardage. I don't agree with this penalty. I don't. Defensive player, if you get hit by a offensive player's helmet, it's your fault. You see it coming, eh? Like it's blindsiding you. You're not getting caught off guard with it. Fucking get lower than him or go with his legs.

• 1:19:49Speaker 02

  I have no problem with a, with a linebacker lowering his head to tackle an offensive player who sees him coming and an offensive player lowering his pads to attack that guy. I mean, I almost got fined multiple times by the NFL. Did, most of them got rescinded of being a blocker, going up in the hole and trying to drive a linebacker. And like, you can't leave your head. Well, how do I, I'm trying, it's my job to get this guy up out of the hole. So I'm just gonna run in and be squared up so he can put his chest right through my fucking sternum? What the fuck are you talking about? It's ridiculous.

• 1:20:21Travis Kelce?

  It's crazy, man.

• 1:20:22Speaker 02

  Bad. I don't like that penalty.

• 1:20:23Travis Kelce?

  Either it's, uh, Cam Scataboo. You said he isn't changing his style of running, um, after being penalized today, uh, for lowering his helmet. Scataboo says he'll play for free if the fines keep coming in and points out that the NFL promotes those plays on social media accounts.

• 1:20:37Speaker 02

  Yeah, of course.

• 1:20:39Travis Kelce?

  Cause that's fucking football, baby.

• 1:20:41Speaker 02

  This is what made everybody love football. I remember watching Mike All-Star, Lorenzo Neal, guys run the ball like this for an entire career and loved every second of it. Jeremy Shockey, why would we want this out? The Jerome Bettis, why would we want this out of the league? How many times does a guy get concussed by a running back lowering his shoulder? Almost never. You just get fucking demoralized. It's like, it's the equivalent of getting dunked on in the NBA and we're just gonna take it out of the game? It's fucking stupid.

• 1:21:13Travis Kelce?

  Tell Ryan Pagnetti to find the stats.

• 1:21:16Speaker 02

  This is a great job. Okay. Ryan Pagnetti. I'll, I'll text him right now. We're gonna text our senior correspondent of analytics, Ryan. Can you find out how many defensive players have been?

• 1:21:34Travis Kelce?

  Do you read like this too?

• 1:21:35Speaker 02

  Concussed or injured from a running back lowering his head

• 1:21:46Speaker 02

  and running them the fuck over.

• 1:21:49Travis Kelce?

  Yeah. Nice.

• 1:21:51Speaker 02

  Allah.

• 1:21:54Speaker 02

  Cam Scataboo hit.

• 1:21:57Travis Kelce?

  You're hilarious.

• 1:21:58Speaker 02

  I'll be shocked. I mean, dude, I don't know how Pagnetti does it. He finds some of this shit out. I mean, I, I know he's using all sorts of like AI tools or whatever, I think, but it's, it's insane that he's able to do this.

• 1:22:09Travis Kelce?

  Well, I can't wait to hear the.

• 1:22:11Speaker 02

  I mean, he's probably going to tell me it's not possible. I would assume.

• 1:22:13Travis Kelce?

  I was gonna say, that's gonna take a lot of, a lot of film footage. Yeah.

• 1:22:18Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:22:19Travis Kelce?

  That's it for bold topics brought to you by Pepsi.

• 1:22:22Speaker 02

  All right. And moving on to the Bears, uh, they had a rare illegal forward handoff, which leads to this week's No Doubt question brought to you by Tyson Brandy.

• 1:22:32Travis Kelce?

  Yeah, my God.

• 1:22:33Speaker 02

  Don't know if you saw this, Joe Tooney getting the, the forward handoff. I got to imagine they thought that Tooney would be more lateral or behind him when that happened. But anyways, No Doubt questions. Is this a rule you were aware of before this play? Has your OC ever tried to implement a play that was illegal in its design? Um, yeah, you never install a play that's illegal by design. I would be shocked if, has, um, Ben Johnson spoken since this play happened about it? I'd be shocked. I'd be shocked if they weren't trying to get Joe to pull and for the handoff to happen laterally and something just happened in the procedure of it. Cause you don't design

• 1:23:16Speaker 02

  plays that are illegal because they, there's a good chance they're gonna get called back.

• 1:23:20Travis Kelce?

  And everybody, everybody that's designing plays knows what's legal and what's not.

• 1:23:26Speaker 02

  And also to this specific rule that you're asking of, were you aware, everyone also knows that you can't hand the ball off forward. Yes, that's not a.

• 1:23:34Travis Kelce?

  Everyone that plays football saw this and be like, you can't do that.

• 1:23:38Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:23:38Travis Kelce?

  So.

• 1:23:39Speaker 02

  Now you can hand it off laterally and you can hand it off behind you, but no, handing the ball forward is not, actually in jet sweep, you actually see the guys, they'll catch it and they'll pop it.

• 1:23:50Travis Kelce?

  They'll toss it forward. Yeah.

• 1:23:51Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:23:51Travis Kelce?

  Well, you can, you can hand the ball forward to an eligible player.

• 1:23:55Speaker 02

  Oh yeah. It's just like a pass. I'm an idiot.

• 1:23:56Travis Kelce?

  Yeah.

• 1:23:56Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:23:57Travis Kelce?

  Yeah.

• 1:23:58Speaker 02

  Ineligible player. Yeah. Yeah. Good point.

• 1:24:00Travis Kelce?

  Which to everybody that doesn't know what eligible and ineligible is, there are five eligible receivers and five non-eligible players on every offensive snap. Those five ineligible players are typically offensive linemen. The Lions have been having some fun with that and Penae Sewell, uh, running routes, but, uh, every time an offensive lineman, um, becomes an eligible player, he has to report that to the refs, uh, which you'll see the refs notify him and everyone in the stadium that this player, ala Jason Kelce, 62 is eligible, this play, and they'll wipe their jersey and say he's eligible to give them the, the sign.

• 1:24:43Speaker 02

  Brush the titties. Brush the tits.

• 1:24:45Travis Kelce?

  Yeah. Make it noticeable. Make it noticeable. Go straight up to him. Straight up to, right up to the ref. Hey, hey.

• 1:24:56Travis Kelce?

  Somebody's done this before.

• 1:24:58Speaker 02

  Oh yeah. I've actually never done, I've done it once.

• 1:25:00Travis Kelce?

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• 1:25:06Speaker 02

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• 1:25:10Travis Kelce?

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• 1:25:20Travis Kelce?

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• 1:25:34Travis Kelce?

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• 1:25:49Travis Kelce?

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• 1:26:11Travis Kelce?

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• 1:26:14Speaker 02

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• 1:26:19Travis Kelce?

  That's true. Otherwise you're just out there running cardio. Can't get open for a big play.

• 1:26:25Speaker 02

  But it's not just football. There's a lot of things you need to prevent before they start.

• 1:26:29Travis Kelce?

  Yeah. Like in your mouth.

• 1:26:31Speaker 02

  My mouth specifically?

• 1:26:33Travis Kelce?

  I mean, probably yours too, but I'm talking everybody's mouth. There's bacteria in there that can lead to oral health problems like cavities, gingivitis.

• 1:26:44Speaker 02

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• 1:26:55Travis Kelce?

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• 1:27:03Speaker 02

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• 1:27:11Travis Kelce?

  Now that's the squad you want fighting for your mouth.

• 1:27:13Speaker 02

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• 1:27:21Travis Kelce?

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• 1:27:25Travis Kelce?

  Out of the house. Jason, you were all over the fucking place these past 72 hours. Um, went from Philadelphia to Cincinnati, Cincinnati to Paris, Paris, back to Philadelphia, then Philadelphia to your house.

• 1:27:41Speaker 02

  And actually started in San Francisco on Monday. So I went from, in Philly on Monday, I went to San Francisco, came back, actually no, I was in Kansas City. So in Philly on Sunday, I went to Kansas City for the New Heights tailgate from New, from Kansas City. I went to San Francisco for Monday Night Football. I came back to Philly, uh, Monday night to sleep in my own bed, thankfully, then flew on Thursday, Friday morning to Cincinnati to get into the Hall of Fame, flew from Cincinnati back to Philly, over to Paris Friday night to land Saturday at noon in Paris, called the game Sunday, flew back to Philadelphia, landed Sunday night and did the Monday Night Football Show in Philadelphia Monday. This

• 1:28:25Speaker 02

  was an intense week for sure. A lot of travel, too much. So probably, uh, we knew coming into the season, this would be like the big week. Typically I get asked all the time like, oh, you're a really busy guy. I'm like, not really. I mean, I fly out Monday to do the show. I fly back that same day and then I do a podcast with my brother. Like I, I know it looks like I'm all over the place, but I'm really, I only work in two days a week. Like it's, I'm stealing money really. Um, this was different. This one was a, a lot of travel, a lot of stuff all over the place. Um, and I'm excited to be back home for a hopefully, uh, you know, foreseeable future, regular schedule, get back to just working Mondays for a little bit, even though the column games was a lot of fun. Kurt Warner

• 1:29:09Speaker 02

  and Dave Pash and Molly McGrath were outstanding to work with, all the producers. It was really fun to get that experience. So, um, but also, you know, we haven't, we have at least one more game later in the season, but to be able to kind of settle down here for a little bit, get Halloween in, get Thanksgiving in, um, get the holidays like situated, watch Wyatt play soccer this week.

• 1:29:34Travis Kelce?

  Let's go, Wyatt.

• 1:29:35Speaker 02

  She's really, the first time she's really starting to get it. Like first practice of the year, you could tell she's like, oh, I don't want to hurt anybody or upset anybody. Like, should I go get the ball or whatnot? Like.

• 1:29:45Travis Kelce?

  Trying to get that competitive juice going.

• 1:29:47Speaker 02

  But as with each practice, she's getting more and more confident about going and getting the ball and realizing, hey, like they just took the ball from me. Okay. I can go take the ball from the, like, you know what I mean? It's, you can see it's starting to click and she's coming into her own, which has been a lot of fun to watch.

• 1:30:00Travis Kelce?

  Well, you were saying you were, uh, getting your money's worth this week. Well, you went one place where you didn't, uh, get paid to go and, uh, you were getting recognized for the dues that, uh, that you gave to the university and then worked for the university. How was the, uh, induction to the University of Cincinnati Athletics Hall of Fame?

• 1:30:19Speaker 02

  It was incredible. Um, one, just being back there for homecoming and seeing, you know, John Goble, Marcus Barnett, Butler Benton, Craig Carey, like all these guys that, that Dustin Groutz, uh, like, I mean, Digger Boujknack, Flo, you know, it was awesome just seeing a bunch of your former teammates there, either at the ceremony or there during the week to enjoy being at homecoming for Cincinnati. Also the ceremony and to be in the class that I'm in, like obviously Connor and I played together in Philadelphia for a long time, played in Cincinnati for three years together. To go into the Hall of Fame with Connor was awesome.

• 1:30:55Travis Kelce?

  Fuck yeah.

• 1:30:55Speaker 02

  Obviously Bob Huggins is the big name. Like this is, he was the reason that Cincinnati Athletics got elevated to what it was in the late eighties and nineties. Like as a kid in Cleveland, we didn't know anything about Cincinnati, but we knew about Cincinnati basketball.

• 1:31:09Travis Kelce?

  Hell yeah, we did.

• 1:31:10Speaker 02

  And you know, I mean, what, what Bob was, what Huggy Bear was building down there was incredible and infectious. And you could see like that those types of basketball teams were the teams that we always loved. Like play hard as fuck, tough nose, grinding games, like everything you wanted to see in a basketball team, especially in college was what they played like. And, um, to see Nick Van Exel, uh, Kenyon Martin, Steve Logan, uh, see these guys talk and tell stories about Huggins and who he was as a coach and how hard he was and how much he cussed you out and pushed you. But at the end of the day, how much it came from a place of like wanting you to be the best player you could be and making them all great was just awesome to listen to.

• 1:31:54Travis Kelce?

  Yeah.

• 1:31:56Speaker 02

  The Red Ablow High Jumper, uh, was apparently a fucking unreal beast, which was cool to see her go in. Mike Kinnit had some awesome baseball stories. Kristy Hoffman, uh, women's soccer goalie, Wayne Mason, uh, track and field, mainly hurdler. Um, just to go in with like a bunch of incredible athletes that loved their time at Cincinnati, um, helped shape that athletics department into what it is today. And to be honored like that from UC is, was really special.

• 1:32:27Travis Kelce?

  Fuck yeah, man. Ah, God, dude. I, um, I was, uh, itching at the bit to try and be there. And, um, it was just cool to see, it was cool to see it from, from afar, see you and Kai and, uh, obviously the rest of the class and, um, seeing Huggins in Cincinnati gear again was pretty fucking awesome. From afar, it definitely, uh, looked like an amazing, uh, amazing time. It was well deserved, brother.

• 1:32:50Speaker 02

  Also saw Tony Pike. I gotta mention that out. Saw TP.

• 1:32:53Travis Kelce?

  TP.

• 1:32:54Speaker 02

  Yeah, baby. Um, and then Dan Hoard was the guy that was, um, he's the, been the voice of Cincinnati for a long time. And, um, the way he orchestrated that whole event, it was a Q and A. So it wasn't even like speeches. Like this dude basically ran a show and he fucking killed it. So.

• 1:33:13Travis Kelce?

  His best of the past, man.

• 1:33:16Speaker 02

  Let's do a little top 10. What do you think, Trav?

• 1:33:18Travis Kelce?

  Let's get into New Heights top 10. This week's top 10 is brought to you by Royal Caribbean. After some big plays, we're teaming up with them to blind rank our top 10 and crowned the legend of the week. Brandon, come on in here, baby or brother, brother, baby.

• 1:33:34Speaker 03

  No, I like that first one. I like that first one.

• 1:33:37Travis Kelce?

  Oh, I'm on that.

• 1:33:38Speaker 02

  Oh, baby Brandon.

• 1:33:40Speaker 03

  Oh, okay. No, let's work it back a little bit. All right.

• 1:33:43Travis Kelce?

  It's like baby Billy.

• 1:33:48Speaker 03

  I feel like I am the Uncle Babe Billy of this group.

• 1:33:50Travis Kelce?

  If you gotta get you some, some tinted fucking.

• 1:33:54Speaker 03

  I need those veneers. I need those big teeth and get tanned up. All right, let's do a little top 10. You guys know the rules, ranking one through 10, blind ranking them. Don't know what's coming. You each get one veto. Let's start Monday Night Football. Mentioned it earlier, the George Pickens touchdown.

• 1:34:11Speaker 02

  I mean.

• 1:34:13Travis Kelce?

  This fucking catch was nasty.

• 1:34:17Travis Kelce?

  What a ball too, man. There's just, there's not much you can do about that. You were talking about the matchups.

• 1:34:24Travis Kelce?

  And Pickens is man, he's a highlight waiting to happen, man. The guy's crazy athletic. Look how he sneaks this right foot, this left foot in there.

• 1:34:34Speaker 03

  Left foot, yeah.

• 1:34:38Speaker 02

  You know what's funny too? Pickens had a couple catches, I think when he was with the Steelers, where like he was kind of careless with his feet and they ended up being incompletions, but they were incredible plays. This is good to see because like this is an insane amount of coordination and awareness of where you're at on the field, on top of like just a beautiful throw from deck. I hate that I like this play so much in terms of like how good it is. Brandon, I know you're from Dallas and you rep the Cowboys.

• 1:35:08Speaker 03

  Yeah, big Cowboys guy over here. Yes. You know, I'm always talking about him. One through 10.

• 1:35:14Speaker 02

  It's gotta be high. It's top three for sure. What do you think, Trav?

• 1:35:17Travis Kelce?

  Sounds like three, like the number on his jersey right there.

• 1:35:19Speaker 02

  All right.

• 1:35:20Speaker 03

  Oh, that's good. All right, we're gonna go.

• 1:35:23Travis Kelce?

  Blind ranking them. I don't know what's coming up, man. It could see.

• 1:35:26Speaker 03

  You don't know.

• 1:35:27Travis Kelce?

  Are we staying in football?

• 1:35:29Speaker 03

  We might be. We might be veering off football this week. I don't know.

• 1:35:32Speaker 02

  All right, well, let's find out.

• 1:35:34Travis Kelce?

  Yeah.

• 1:35:34Speaker 03

  We're gonna go to Kendall Daniels with the game ceiling interception against.

• 1:35:42Speaker 02

  Well, pop out.

• 1:35:43Travis Kelce?

  Dude, this was.

• 1:35:46Speaker 02

  And I, I believe, wasn't Kendall Daniels like carted off with a neck injury?

• 1:35:50Speaker 03

  He was carted off the week prior. Yes.

• 1:35:53Speaker 02

  Dude.

• 1:35:54Travis Kelce?

  Hell of a story for the young man.

• 1:35:55Speaker 02

  Absolutely. Great fucking pick too. This has been in, I mean, this like mugged up thing. This is definitely the flavor of the league right now. These linebackers that walk up on the line of scrimmage, present an all out pressure and then either come or bail. And the, the guys at bail, man, it's so hard for the quarterback to see which guys are doing that.

• 1:36:16Travis Kelce?

  So hard. And he played it perfect. He played it perfect. It's, uh, it's tough, man. If you're Purdy, you're just thinking that guy's coming sky free open and all of a sudden the six, five long armed fucking from the A gap comes and just jumps out of nowhere. Fuck, man. That's tough, dude.

• 1:36:34Speaker 02

  This is why they need that taco, the taco, uh.

• 1:36:36Travis Kelce?

  Yeah, just have him do it every single time. No.

• 1:36:39Speaker 02

  Put him up there.

• 1:36:42Travis Kelce?

  This is, this is a great, this is a solid.

• 1:36:43Speaker 02

  I would say four or five to me.

• 1:36:45Travis Kelce?

  Yeah, let's go five. Let's go five. Five's.

• 1:36:47Speaker 03

  Let's go five. Let's go five. All right. We're gonna venture out of football. This was sent to me on Twitter by KC Ginger. I was hesitant to include it because I feel like it violates, it violates a highlight reel, but I wanted to show it. It is otters from an aquarium playing basketball.

• 1:37:08Travis Kelce?

  Oh shit, no way. That is a puppet. That is not a real fucking thing, dude.

• 1:37:14Speaker 03

  Those are real otters.

• 1:37:19Travis Kelce?

  This is hilarious.

• 1:37:20Speaker 02

  It's great. I love it.

• 1:37:22Speaker 03

  This counts as a top players as a highlight reel.

• 1:37:24Speaker 02

  I think if you just submit one of the dunks, uh, it's in the top 10. So it works. It works.

• 1:37:30Speaker 03

  Okay, works.

• 1:37:30Travis Kelce?

  Fucking hilarious, man.

• 1:37:32Speaker 02

  What do you think? Nine, 10? What do you want?

• 1:37:33Travis Kelce?

  I'll give it 10 just because it's fucking, I could watch that all day. Yeah.

• 1:37:37Speaker 03

  Otters, you're on the board. We've already talked about this play, but it is one of my favorite from the week. We're gonna go back to scat pack with the truck stick.

• 1:37:45Travis Kelce?

  I mean, if we're put, if we're keeping this as a, I mean, that's, god damn it. That's, that's, everybody that loves football saw that and was like, fuck yes.

• 1:37:56Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:37:56Speaker 03

  It's a, it gets you standing up in the living room.

• 1:37:58Travis Kelce?

  Immediately sent that to their friends.

• 1:38:01Speaker 02

  To like just like.

• 1:38:02Travis Kelce?

  Bear crawl is just like, I'm gonna fucking.

• 1:38:07Speaker 02

  It's a Neanderthal crawl. Um, I'll go four on this. What do you think?

• 1:38:13Travis Kelce?

  I'll keep it. I'll keep it right there. I love it.

• 1:38:15Speaker 02

  I think it's also just like, it's a four because of the fact that they're trying to get this out of football. I just keep doing this, Cam. Screw it.

• 1:38:23Speaker 03

  Keep doing it. Jason will pay the fine. Uh, we're gonna move on to Trey Tucker.

• 1:38:27Travis Kelce?

  A little Cincinnati Bearcat action. What you got for me, Trey?

• 1:38:38Speaker 02

  I go nine.

• 1:38:40Travis Kelce?

  Just solid, solid highlight, solid highlight right there from the Bearcat. I love it.

• 1:38:44Speaker 02

  It's, I mean.

• 1:38:48Speaker 02

  Maybe I missed, but if I'm being honest, I don't think this is top 10 worthy.

• 1:38:52Speaker 03

  Oh, you want to veto it?

• 1:38:54Speaker 02

  I'll go nine. I mean.

• 1:38:55Travis Kelce?

  Yeah, let's go nine. It's a, it's a highlight. It's a highlight.

• 1:38:58Speaker 03

  It's a highlight.

• 1:39:00Speaker 02

  Is this a game winner?

• 1:39:01Travis Kelce?

  Uh, no, it's garbage time.

• 1:39:02Speaker 02

  They got their asses kicked, right? I just don't, yeah, I'm.

• 1:39:06Speaker 03

  You don't believe in garbage time stats?

• 1:39:08Speaker 02

  I just, no, I, I.

• 1:39:12Speaker 02

  I see guys get juke'd every fucking game. I don't know. That's not the league.

• 1:39:17Speaker 03

  All right, all right. Where do we put that 10?

• 1:39:20Speaker 02

  We can't. Nine.

• 1:39:21Speaker 03

  Nine, nine. Oh, above otters. Wow.

• 1:39:24Speaker 02

  It's a great play. I'm not saying it's not a good play. I just think top 10.

• 1:39:27Speaker 03

  You do have a veto, Jason. This game does work that way.

• 1:39:29Speaker 02

  I don't need to veto. He's a, he's a Bearcat. I'll go nine.

• 1:39:32Travis Kelce?

  Nice.

• 1:39:33Speaker 03

  Okay, all right. Bearcat bias, Bearcat bias. Uh, we're going back to Niners Falcons, Jesse Bates sideline interception.

• 1:39:49Speaker 02

  I think I saw this. I want to see the up close.

• 1:39:53Travis Kelce?

  Got Greg Olson on the fucking call. I mean, it's a hell of a play. I think it's a seven or eight for me though.

• 1:40:00Speaker 02

  That's really good. I don't think we can go two or one with it. So it's gotta be

• 1:40:07Speaker 02

  six, seven or eight. You want to go seven?

• 1:40:09Travis Kelce?

  Yeah, that's fine. Six, seven, six, seven.

• 1:40:13Speaker 02

  It's a good, it's a good highlight. Good highlight.

• 1:40:16Speaker 03

  Good highlight, good highlight, good highlight. We're gonna go to Denver, Arizona, Bo Nix, 62 yard scamper.

• 1:40:26Travis Kelce?

  To the crib. This is fucking.

• 1:40:35Speaker 02

  I was running.

• 1:40:40Speaker 02

  I mean.

• 1:40:43Travis Kelce?

  I mean, it's an electric play. There's nobody in front of him. It's an electric.

• 1:40:46Speaker 02

  No move. Like it's not.

• 1:40:47Speaker 03

  I mean, it's, yeah, I don't know. It's 62 yard touchdown now.

• 1:40:52Speaker 02

  I get it. He's running fast.

• 1:40:54Travis Kelce?

  He's fuck, he's shot out of this goddamn pocket like a cannon.

• 1:40:58Speaker 02

  He's, he's, he is moving.

• 1:41:00Travis Kelce?

  I'll go, I'll go eight. This is, this is a solid highlight.

• 1:41:03Speaker 03

  Solid highlight. Solid number eight. We're gonna keep moving. This one came to me from the internet. I cannot verify where this came from or what it is, but this is some Pee Wee football. Um, dad's practicing some tech with their kids.

• 1:41:18Speaker 02

  I saw this. I saw this.

• 1:41:19Travis Kelce?

  Hilarious.

• 1:41:25Speaker 02

  The reaction to everybody else is the best part. Whoa, you just did that?

• 1:41:31Speaker 03

  How do we feel about this?

• 1:41:33Travis Kelce?

  I gotta veto it.

• 1:41:34Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:41:35Speaker 03

  All right, that's a fair veto.

• 1:41:37Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:41:38Speaker 03

  That's a fair.

• 1:41:39Speaker 02

  It is a great highlight. It is a great highlight.

• 1:41:41Speaker 03

  For the dad.

• 1:41:42Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:41:42Travis Kelce?

  A win for the dad for sure.

• 1:41:44Speaker 03

  It's a win for the dad. We're gonna go to.

• 1:41:46Speaker 02

  Could you imagine if an NFL person did this? Like, this is what, uh.

• 1:41:52Travis Kelce?

  This is what they used to do in the seventies and eighties to quarterbacks that weren't big enough.

• 1:41:58Speaker 02

  All right, good.

• 1:41:59Speaker 03

  We're gonna go to Drake May, uh, from Bears Patriots on Thursday Night Football. Drake May.

• 1:42:08Speaker 03

  Reaching out.

• 1:42:11Travis Kelce?

  Got it. Oh, nice.

• 1:42:14Speaker 03

  Got it. Wall having his face twisted up, by the way.

• 1:42:17Travis Kelce?

  We gotta stop leaving one and two like Brandon's actually gonna give us one late.

• 1:42:22Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's a, it's a, it was a slow weekend highlights, clearly, slow weekend highlights.

• 1:42:26Speaker 03

  I like this one. I like this one.

• 1:42:28Speaker 02

  Again, good play. Is it a top 10?

• 1:42:33Speaker 03

  You don't think it's a top 10?

• 1:42:35Speaker 02

  Play? No.

• 1:42:36Speaker 03

  All right.

• 1:42:38Speaker 02

  He's reaching for the goal line.

• 1:42:39Speaker 03

  But to keep his hips up, to keep the knees off.

• 1:42:42Travis Kelce?

  No, it's a hell of a, it's a great football play.

• 1:42:44Speaker 02

  I'm not saying it's not good. I, I like watching it and it's cool. And it's, it's good awareness, but like, I'm not, I'm seeing nothing top 10 worthy here, if I'm being honest.

• 1:42:54Travis Kelce?

  Veto.

• 1:42:56Speaker 03

  All right, let me find you. We're gonna go, this was also sent to us on, wait, are you vetoing this or we aren't ranking?

• 1:43:01Speaker 02

  I'll veto it.

• 1:43:02Speaker 03

  That's two. All right, Lenora Sellers, this was sent to me from Rhonda Carter, Glenn on Twitter. We're going to South Carolina, Tennessee. Lenora Sellers.

• 1:43:12Speaker 06

  Incredible play by Lenora Sellers, lowers his shoulder, runs through Ty Redmond, fights through TJ Metcalf, he's on one leg. And he puts the ball over the goal line.

• 1:43:23Speaker 03

  How we feel? Lenoras.

• 1:43:25Speaker 02

  Six.

• 1:43:27Speaker 03

  A six?

• 1:43:29Travis Kelce?

  What is up?

• 1:43:30Speaker 03

  He's hopping on one leg, Jason.

• 1:43:32Travis Kelce?

  What is, what is up with your like love for like guys just like?

• 1:43:36Speaker 02

  Just reaching for the goal line.

• 1:43:38Speaker 03

  No, that's more than a reach. That's more than a reach. Look at my man.

• 1:43:42Speaker 02

  I'm not knocking the effort.

• 1:43:44Speaker 03

  Look, one guy on the ground, got a leg, second guy, one foot high.

• 1:43:49Travis Kelce?

  These are just good football plays. They're not highlights.

• 1:43:52Speaker 02

  This is, this is, there are highlights, but they're not top 10 highlights. Yes, but it's not a top 10 highlight. That's the point. But I do think this is an extra effort one. I could see this one being in it. The Drake may one was absolutely not.

• 1:44:05Speaker 03

  Three guys.

• 1:44:07Speaker 02

  I mean, six. I can't give this, unless it was like the game winning touchdown, it's a six.

• 1:44:11Speaker 03

  It was to tie the game in the fourth is what I'm being told. Tying the game in the fourth.

• 1:44:15Speaker 02

  That's different. I still don't think, I think the only choices we have are one, two, or six, right?

• 1:44:19Travis Kelce?

  Yes.

• 1:44:23Speaker 02

  I can't give this one or two. I can't give it one or two. It's a great play, but it's not one or two.

• 1:44:27Speaker 03

  Number six.

• 1:44:29Travis Kelce?

  Now we just gotta hope that this is.

• 1:44:31Speaker 02

  These are gonna be the worst one and two ranked plays.

• 1:44:34Speaker 03

  It's gonna be bad, boys. I'm sorry. All right, we're going back, we're going back to Bears Patriots. We got a Caleb Williams piss missile in the fourth quarter. Driving to ice the game.

• 1:44:44Speaker 06

  Making the window very, very tight. Somehow he gets that in there over top of the hand of Kevin Byard. What a throw. Right there.

• 1:44:57Travis Kelce?

  All right, well, I guess we gotta go to.

• 1:44:59Speaker 02

  We're out of vetoes.

• 1:45:01Speaker 03

  You're out of vetoes. You played the game.

• 1:45:03Travis Kelce?

  Two. Nice throw, Caleb.

• 1:45:06Speaker 03

  Oh my God.

• 1:45:08Speaker 02

  It's a good throw.

• 1:45:09Speaker 03

  With his, what, has he got his feet in his own fucking end zone?

• 1:45:12Speaker 02

  This is not like.

• 1:45:14Travis Kelce?

  This is good ball. This is good ball.

• 1:45:16Speaker 03

  This is good ball. This is to keep the drive alive. This is to go down.

• 1:45:19Speaker 02

  We're not saying it's not a good throw. Like, I don't think this is what, we're not understanding. This is not a top 10 like play. That's the only thing.

• 1:45:26Speaker 03

  I think it's a top 10 play. That's one of the best throws of the week. This is gonna be bad.

• 1:45:33Travis Kelce?

  All right, now I know, now I know how you're doing this game. I'm never doing this again.

• 1:45:39Speaker 03

  I'm gonna go, I'm gonna pull one out of the hat here. I'm gonna pull one out of the hat here. We're gonna go back, we're gonna go back to Paris. We're gonna go back to Paris. We're gonna go to a New Heights favorite. We're gonna go with a little Darnell Washington.

• 1:45:51Travis Kelce?

  We were already talking about this. This is.

• 1:45:53Speaker 02

  This is not, this is not a bad number one. This is a fucking dope ass play.

• 1:45:56Speaker 06

  Rogers with a big man. Washington pulls it in.

• 1:46:01Speaker 02

  Oh, like didn't even really jump, just like.

• 1:46:05Travis Kelce?

  It's, you said it best. It's like Unc at the Turkey Bowl, fucking catching it on, on his nephew. It's just, it's so good.

• 1:46:15Travis Kelce?

  He's like, he's like 25 years old. He's already like built like an uncle.

• 1:46:19Speaker 02

  Dude.

• 1:46:23Speaker 02

  That's a hilarious comment, Travis.

• 1:46:25Travis Kelce?

  One of the most unstoppable fucking forces in the NFL right now, man.

• 1:46:29Speaker 02

  Oh my God, that's good.

• 1:46:31Speaker 03

  That's our number one.

• 1:46:32Speaker 02

  I'm in. Love it, love it.

• 1:46:34Travis Kelce?

  Titans are number one.

• 1:46:35Speaker 02

  Shout out to Darnell Washington.

• 1:46:37Speaker 03

  Shout out to Darnell Washington.

• 1:46:38Travis Kelce?

  And that's this week's top 10 brought to you by Royal Caribbean. Again, if you want to be your own legend of the week, check out royalcaribbean.com.

• 1:46:47Speaker 02

  That wraps up this episode of New Heights. Thank you 92%ers for tuning in and also want to give a quick shout out to Lindsay Carl and Brandon Byrd. For getting married at the Philadelphia Eagles tailgate this past week. Yeah, baby. Two Byrds got married at an Eagles tailgate. How about that? And it was officiated by our good friend Bo Allen and Shane Victorino. Davo was out there. It was a magical scene before the game. A shout out to both of you. Congratulations.

• 1:47:17Travis Kelce?

  Once again, New Heights, a wondery show brought to you by Xfinity. Don't forget to check out what Xfinity has for you. Uh, follow the show on all social media, at New Heights Show with what asks for fun clips throughout the week. And thanks to our New Heights production team for always showing up and showing out and to the 92%ers. We love you guys. We'll see you guys next week.

• 1:47:45Speaker 02

  Frish's the big thing was tartar sauce on the burgers. I think there was one in Cleveland. I don't even fucking know.

• 1:47:50Travis Kelce?

  100% there was. Maybe not 100%.

• 1:47:53Speaker 02

  No.

• 1:47:54Travis Kelce?

  Maybe.

• 1:47:55Speaker 02

  Should we ask dad? Should we phone Ed Kelsey?

• 1:47:57Travis Kelce?

  Let's just phone in Ed Kelsey. What's Ed up to right now?

• 1:47:59Speaker 02

  Senior correspondent of our childhood.

• 1:48:03Travis Kelce?

  He'll listen. If there's anybody that knows about good old fast food chains and burgers and he's our burger. Senior correspondent of fast food chains. Let's call the one guy that's gotten the tartar sauce from a burger on his belly while driving down I-95.

• 1:48:23Speaker 02

  Yo, Pop.

• 1:48:24Travis Kelce?

  Hey, Pop.

• 1:48:25Speaker 02

  We're on the podcast with Travis. You are being recorded. Do I have your permission? I don't want to sneak attack you.

• 1:48:32Speaker 02

  All right, we're, we're having a trip. Well, it's not, it's not that serious. So we're having a little trip down memory lane. Big Boy, you remember the restaurant Big Boys?

• 1:48:42Speaker 05

  Sure do.

• 1:48:43Speaker 02

  What? What is it?

• 1:48:46Speaker 05

  Manners was the name of the company.

• 1:48:48Speaker 02

  Manners?

• 1:48:49Speaker 05

  M A N E R.

• 1:48:51Speaker 02

  Manners. So what is, what is Frish's Big Boy? There's also one in California called Bob's Big Boy.

• 1:48:57Speaker 05

  I, all right, I think originally it was called Manners. Manners and they had a, they had the sandwich called the Big Boy.

• 1:49:04Speaker 02

  Did the Big Boy have tartar sauce on it?

• 1:49:07Speaker 05

  It's a, it was a special sauce. Yeah, it was like a tartar sauce.

• 1:49:11Travis Kelce?

  No wonder they went out of business.

• 1:49:12Speaker 05

  I don't know that it was tartar sauce, but they had their own secret sauce, their own special sauce. To the best of my recollection, it was originally Manners.

• 1:49:21Travis Kelce?

  Ask him if he's ever gotten that sauce on his stomach.

• 1:49:24Speaker 05

  Then I think the company, the company either broke up regionally.

• 1:49:30Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:49:30Speaker 05

  Or other companies just started doing the same thing.

• 1:49:34Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's what it, that's what we're seeing.

• 1:49:37Speaker 05

  This was, you know, this was, this was a gathering place. This was a forerunner of Denny's and, and all these other restaurants.

• 1:49:43Travis Kelce?

  Oh, man, this guy fucking, he reads.

• 1:49:47Speaker 02

  I got a encyclopedia.

• 1:49:49Speaker 05

  As I recall, originally it was called Manners. Then, then it became, then it became Frish's. Now, I don't know if, if, if it was sold to a company that decided to name it Frish's. Or if that was just a competing product, a competing company. I don't know.

• 1:50:05Speaker 02

  All right. Well, Travis wants to know if you ever got that secret sauce on your shirt?

• 1:50:13Speaker 05

  I'm sure I did.

• 1:50:19Speaker 05

  Why?

• 1:50:20Speaker 02

  He's just being funny. What's, Pop, all right, what do you think's the most unhealthy food item at Taco Bell?

• 1:50:28Speaker 05

  Oh, I don't know. There's not, I don't know. That's a, that's a tough one. Believe me, there's a lot of very healthy things at Taco Bell.

• 1:50:38Speaker 05

  When you look in terms of, of fat and calories.

• 1:50:41Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:50:43Travis Kelce?

  This dude, this dude's hilarious.

• 1:50:47Speaker 05

  It's not bad food.

• 1:50:48Speaker 02

  I thought, didn't it? Didn't?

• 1:50:50Speaker 05

  I never, I never really was, I was never fond of, of the food the way it tasted.

• 1:50:56Speaker 02

  Okay. See, we're in opposite categories. I was very fond of what it tasted like. I just, there was articles that came out that said it was like, you know, like not even, it was like below dog food grade beef or something like that. Do you ever remember that?

• 1:51:09Speaker 05

  I don't, how do you, I want to know who made the determination and what their criteria.

• 1:51:15Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's a fair question, Dad. I think it's a fair question.

• 1:51:18Travis Kelce?

  Yeah.

• 1:51:19Speaker 05

  If it's beef, that means it's that horse. Most, most of your meat.

• 1:51:23Travis Kelce?

  Wait, huh?

• 1:51:27Speaker 05

  Comes from dead horses.

• 1:51:28Travis Kelce?

  What? What?

• 1:51:30Speaker 05

  Most of the dog food and the, and the pet food, the canned dog food, the pate, the pate.

• 1:51:36Travis Kelce?

  We were feeding Bell horse? Is this legal nowadays?

• 1:51:39Speaker 05

  A lot of that stuff is, is.

• 1:51:42Travis Kelce?

  No.

• 1:51:43Speaker 05

  The majority comes from horses.

• 1:51:45Speaker 02

  The majority of the dog food comes from horses?

• 1:51:48Speaker 05

  It's an awesome.

• 1:51:49Travis Kelce?

  Now I know, now.

• 1:51:52Speaker 05

  Horse meat is an awesome protein.

• 1:51:55Travis Kelce?

  Horse feed?

• 1:51:56Speaker 02

  Horse meat.

• 1:51:57Travis Kelce?

  Horse feed? Oh, man.

• 1:51:58Speaker 02

  They do eat it in other cultures, for sure.

• 1:52:01Speaker 05

  They certainly do.

• 1:52:02Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:52:02Speaker 05

  Here we, here we feed it to our dogs.

• 1:52:05Speaker 02

  I did not know that.

• 1:52:06Speaker 05

  Now, and realize, realize, I'm, I'm speaking from, from, from a point of view in the always gathered 14, 15 years.

• 1:52:15Speaker 02

  Yeah, it might have changed. They might have.

• 1:52:19Speaker 05

  Maybe we're exporting our, our, our horse meat to.

• 1:52:23Speaker 02

  China. You could say it. Yeah, you could say it. All right, Dad, we gotta go. I love you. It's a good talk.

• 1:52:33Travis Kelce?

  That's the only way that was gonna end well.

• 1:52:39Travis Kelce?

  You can say it.

• 1:53:09Travis Kelce?

  I knew where he was going before he even fucking said it. Now do we ship this, do we ship this? I was about to say we ship horse meat to China.

• 1:53:24Travis Kelce?

  I'm on fire. I'm sweating. Oh my God.

• 1:53:34Speaker 02

  There's so many things I want to Google from that conversation. In fairness to Dad, I Googled, is most of the dog food in the U.S. horse meat? And the AI response was no, most dog food in the U.S. is not horse meat. I'm gonna ask, okay, 50 years ago, 50 years ago.

• 1:53:51Travis Kelce?

  50?

• 1:53:52Speaker 02

  That's what he said, 40 to 50 years ago. 50 years ago was most of the meat in dog food, horse meat.

• 1:54:02Travis Kelce?

  Oh, man. Canned, canned food, canned food. All the canned food. Canned.

• 1:54:06Speaker 02

  Yes, dude.

• 1:54:08Travis Kelce?

  Come on now, Ed Kelsey, he ain't gonna lie to us.

• 1:54:11Speaker 02

  Yes, horse meat was the primary and most common meat ingredient in commercial canned dog food for decades. Starting in the early 1920s. Fucking Ed Kelsey's on top of this.

• 1:54:22Travis Kelce?

  This guy's, he knows a little something.

• 1:54:25Speaker 02

  There is a surplus after World War I, World War I, automobiles and tractors replaced walking, working horses on farms and in cities. This left a massive surplus of cheap horse carcasses. Jesus Christ.

• 1:54:37Travis Kelce?

  God, all right, let's get out of this.