The plague? Joanne is obsessed...

TRIGGER WARNING: There are quite a few mentions of death, disease and murder this week... Yes, this is supposed to be a comedy podcast. So why all the heavy topics? Vogue has four children now and Joanne just stepped off another long haul flight... Everyone is in a weird space. Tennessee botched executions, Gypsy Rose chat, marathon cheats... It's ALL here. Plus, Pete Davidson is kicking off and the plague is back. Great. My Therapist Ghosted Me is a Global Production. Tickets for Joanne's tour Pinotphile are now LIVE: www.joannemcnally.com http://www.joannemcnally.com/ If you’d like to get in touch, you can send an email to [email protected] mailto:[email protected] Please review Global's Privacy Policy: https://global.com/legal/privacy-policy/ For merch, tour dates and more visit: www.mytherapistghostedme.com http://www.mytherapistghostedme.com/ This episode contains explicit language and adult themes that may not be suitable for all listeners.

• 0:02Speaker 00

  This Gypsy Rose thing is going everywhere and it's kind of wild. The internet is going insane about it.

• 0:10Speaker 01

  She's basically like the Grim Reaper with a set of veneers.

• 0:13Speaker 00

  My speaker of the week this week is Pete Davidson.

• 0:15Speaker 01

  Very much so. Very misogynistic.

• 0:23Speaker 00

  Let's be in good form.

• 0:24Speaker 01

  I actually am, I think I am in good form.

• 0:28Speaker 00

  I'm in good form.

• 0:30Speaker 01

  Hmm, I think I am.

• 0:31Speaker 00

  Something has nearly, something has touched me over the years a little bit, but I know that you guys will fish me back out.

• 0:36Speaker 01

  Yes, we're gonna fish you back out into fun form. And I, because I've escaped something I had, um, you know, have you ever had that thing where you're, it's like your whole body, like your skin is sore?

• 0:49Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 0:49Speaker 01

  And it's very, it's giving flu and, and here was me teasing you for getting the jab. Yeah, get your jab. Because I was like, uh-oh, I don't have time for this. If you wanted to give me the flu, it was last week. I don't have time for it now. And I was quite freaked actually, because I'm in a fair, I have a lot of work to do now for the next couple of weeks, six weeks. And I got, and when I woke up this morning, it had lifted, it had lifted. It's gone.

• 1:16Speaker 00

  It might have been the bed sheets in the hotel you're in, because you're having to go real inexpensive.

• 1:22Speaker 01

  No.

• 1:22Speaker 00

  Maybe your body isn't, maybe your body isn't used to the sheets.

• 1:26Speaker 01

  My body is so bougie. Well, no, because it started in my own house and it continued on this plane and it was still here last night. And I was like, uh-oh, oh no, no, no, no, no, no, no time for this.

• 1:39Speaker 00

  And you know, the flu, the flu is a three week job as well. You're not just getting in and out of that. Do you know what I, speaking of sheets, I recently, did I tell you I changed all my towels? Because I realised I was exfoliating with my towels because I hadn't changed them.

• 1:53Speaker 01

  Changed them, yeah.

• 1:54Speaker 00

  I bought towels 10 years ago when I moved into our first place and I was like, these towels feel very, especially rough today. And then Svenny was like drying his back and one ripped and I was like, time for the towels. Time for the towels.

• 2:06Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, when you're practically exfoliating your face with a towel.

• 2:11Speaker 00

  It's, I saw, there was a comedian.

• 2:14Speaker 01

  Oh, I know her, yeah.

• 2:16Speaker 00

  Yeah, and she was talking about how like she, like she, she realised she was poor when she found out that like she went to these people's house. They invited her over and like she'd brought her own towel and they were like, they had a swimming pool and they're like, no, use our towels. And she's like, that's the first time I realised that towels would be soft and they weren't meant to scratch you. So I'd always had, she's so funny. What is her name?

• 2:37Speaker 01

  She's great. Robbie, Robbie Hoffman, I think, isn't it?

• 2:40Speaker 00

  She's so funny.

• 2:41Speaker 01

  She's brilliant.

• 2:42Speaker 00

  God, yeah, she's really, really great.

• 2:44Speaker 01

  I'm gonna get straight into it.

• 2:46Speaker 00

  Go on.

• 2:47Speaker 01

  The plague is back.

• 2:48Speaker 00

  What do you mean the plague? Oh, no, measles.

• 2:51Speaker 01

  No, there's a woman in Russia, she works in an anti-plague lab, 28 years of age. She's after just dying of the plague.

• 3:01Speaker 00

  I thought she worked in an anti-plague lab. Is that like the last place the plague could be? Where's the plague?

• 3:07Speaker 01

  It's a lab very against the plague, but they house the plague in the lab and she's 28 and she's after dying. Now, obviously this, I was like, oh, perfect, just when things are kind of coming back around, you know? The plague is back. However, then I did a bit of a slightly, I wouldn't say a deep dive, I'd say a middle ground dive. And they're like, the plague's, the plague's still around. Sure, it's ripping through the Congo all the time, but.

• 3:29Speaker 00

  What? Hannah, what is the plague? What, what are the symptoms?

• 3:33Speaker 01

  Do you remember back in like, well, not the 14th century, I know you weren't there. You're not aging that well.

• 3:41Speaker 01

  The bubonic plague, there's no way of, it has no cure. Apparently, if you get it, it's kind of like rabies, you're, you're on the, there's different types of plague, but she, they were kind of, they can't figure out, well, it was in Siberia, I think it happened. They can't figure out why she wasn't treated. Like she could have been, they should, they could have given her something, but she caught it. It's, and there's obviously like a leak in the thing and all. I know everyone's like, oh, great, the plague is back.

• 4:05Speaker 00

  Something else. And I heard measles are back in, in America, by the way. There's been an epidemic. Now, make sure it's not mumps. It's one of them, Joe. It's measles or mumps. There's something that they've had an epidemic in America. So I would be careful. You don't want measles, but you've had the jab.

• 4:21Speaker 01

  I've had, yeah, I have the Irish triangle, the tri-colour, the trilogy. The three injections that you have on your, on your, on your, on your shoulder.

• 4:30Speaker 02

  So as not to, sorry, so as not to spread undue panic, there isn't an epidemic of measles. There are measles outbreaks in the US, thought to be because of declining uptake in vaccines.

• 4:45Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 4:46Speaker 02

  It's not an epidemic, but there, there shouldn't be any measles.

• 4:50Speaker 01

  Well, but just to fact check, Joe, the plague is back, isn't it?

• 4:54Speaker 02

  Fact check, fact check, it is.

• 4:55Speaker 00

  Sorry, you're giving her the plague. She has one case. I'm sorry, how many cases of, of the measles are there? There's way more than that. You can't give her the plague and take the measles free.

• 5:08Speaker 02

  The good news is that both the plague and measles are on the rise, so.

• 5:13Speaker 01

  Thank you, Joe.

• 5:14Speaker 00

  Yay, everybody wins.

• 5:15Speaker 01

  We're both right. Good. That's nice. That's nice. Thank you, Joe.

• 5:19Speaker 01

  I'm just Googling here.

• 5:20Speaker 00

  Oh, he's sticking up for her.

• 5:23Speaker 01

  The plague, is the, is the plague back?

• 5:26Speaker 02

  Pneumonic plague, not bubonic, like in, in the olden days. It's pneumonic plague.

• 5:32Speaker 01

  That's actually important, yeah, bit of information.

• 5:34Speaker 00

  Bubonic sounds scary. Bubonic sounds real scary.

• 5:37Speaker 01

  Was like that, and they couldn't figure out what, where it was coming from. And it was coming from when they started, there, there was rats coming in on the boats and they were all sleeping with the rat, like they would sleep on piles of hay and all. So it was the rat, rats were carrying, the rats got bitten by something and they had the plague and then they were carrying it around towns.

• 5:53Speaker 02

  Yeah, the fleas. I think it was the fleas.

• 5:55Speaker 00

  Fleas, Jesus Christ. It's the rats or the bats. The rats or the bats.

• 6:01Speaker 01

  They couldn't figure it out. Yeah. And then do you remember that story? I definitely told you this story before, that people were using the plague as, they were using the dead bodies as nuclear weapons. And they were firing dead bodies that were infected with the bubonic plague in over like town walls and stuff to try and, yeah, and killing it. Like if you touched it, that was it. That's how contagious it was.

• 6:19Speaker 00

  Was smallpox everything or was that just in a book that I read? Because that sounded, that sounds absolutely horrific to get smallpox.

• 6:26Speaker 01

  No, smallpox is absolutely a thing.

• 6:28Speaker 00

  Fuck, that sounds real bad.

• 6:31Speaker 01

  And isn't it, there's something about smallpox, didn't they have a new case? They kind of eradicated it via vaccines and now they have a new case. Because again, people are, you know, more people aren't getting the vaccines.

• 6:41Speaker 00

  Well, there's a lot now, as a vaccine lover, and I know that won't go down well with everybody, but I do, I love the flu job and I do like my measles, mumps and rubella. Like I'm not going out and getting everything. I don't, I don't get anything else, but like all the basic ones I do. But there are a lot of people who choose not to have their kids vaccinated and that's just, like, I think I get, like, I don't know. I just feel like for polio and for MMR and stuff like that, like I just, it's a real like scary thing to think of them getting that, their little bodies. I can't.

• 7:10Speaker 01

  Of course. Here, here we go. Yes, yes, Joanne, thank you, Chachi Piti. There is intense concern regarding a potential plague case in Siberia. A female laboratory technician working at the Anti-Plague Research Institute of Siberia and the Far East died. You shouldn't be laughing at that.

• 7:26Speaker 00

  I'm not laughing. I'm not, but the whole thing sounds so made up. It's insane. Like Siberia, yeah.

• 7:34Speaker 01

  We don't believe in Siberia, do we not? Was that in the same book that you read about the smallpox?

• 7:40Speaker 00

  It's just Siberia. It's like, oh yeah, the outskirts.

• 7:44Speaker 02

  The existence of Siberia is disputed by some people, some people say.

• 7:47Speaker 00

  Siberia as well, desperate place to live, very cold.

• 7:51Speaker 01

  Anyway, that's the news, that's my news.

• 7:55Speaker 00

  Uplifting as always. Thank you so much. I feel like, I feel like we really did a good job there with a few facts and that, that felt like a really, that felt like the rest is history. Like we've just done a little job about, it's very historical, the first part of the podcast.

• 8:08Speaker 01

  Yeah, well, we're the newsagents now, really.

• 8:12Speaker 01

  I think we're a medical podcast at this point.

• 8:15Speaker 00

  Do you know what I saw about, there was this woman and she owned a beauty salon, right, speaking of death, and she died, which is obviously very, very sad. And so when she died, she, the people who were working in the salon put up a discount code, ORIP10, or IP10. So you get 10% off everything because in the event of her death, or rest in peace 10. If I ever go, I want dead 20 for Bear by Vogue. I want it to do really well.

• 8:47Speaker 01

  Or is, is there something about when you, when you die, like you'll be really pale? Is there something in?

• 8:55Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 8:56Speaker 01

  Pale 20 or something maybe? Like, could you kind of make it more brand, you know, rather than just death?

• 9:03Speaker 00

  Gray, gray 20, gray 20.

• 9:05Speaker 01

  Bread and water, but no, born, no, what's the, brown bread.

• 9:10Speaker 00

  What about anxious preoccupied? You could be anxiety to, to death 10. No, you'd give 20, you'd give 20.

• 9:16Speaker 01

  I would not. I have a business to run.

• 9:19Speaker 00

  In the event of your death, you give them 10.

• 9:23Speaker 01

  I remember asking my mum once, I was like, what would your, what would your death row meal be? And she said, she gave it, and then she sent a skinny cappuccino and I was like, would you not just go full fat? Like it's your, it's your death row meal. Would you not just go full fat? I mean, I, we, I feel like we have to acknowledge.

• 9:39Speaker 02

  Oh, great. I can see what you're going to say.

• 9:40Speaker 00

  There's two things we have to acknowledge within that, but the first one, okay, go, which one were you gonna go for?

• 9:44Speaker 01

  The woman on death row who survived two attempts of murders on herself. Yeah.

• 9:53Speaker 00

  So she was being executed, the first woman to be executed in a very long time, and she survived two lethal injections. I was thinking, Joanne, if you got lethal injections, you'd probably come out on top as well. There's no fucking way. They could give you the electric chair and a lethal injection and you'd still just be like, oh, I didn't really feel that could be okay.

• 10:14Speaker 01

  Yeah, I'm, I'm like a cockroach. They'd have to take me out and shoot me by firing squad.

• 10:19Speaker 00

  That wouldn't even help, I don't think. I think the bullets would just ricochet off you.

• 10:24Speaker 01

  Why? Because my abs?

• 10:28Speaker 01

  Those abs that I've drank away sadly, can't love them.

• 10:32Speaker 00

  I had abs for a week. Great.

• 10:39Speaker 01

  The app were like, oh my god, we're, we're here. And I was like, not anymore, because I'm the type of person who'll train to get my body a certain way. And then go, oh, that's, that's that done now. And then I'll just stop, whereas I, I don't realise, like, you, you have to, it needs consistent effort.

• 10:55Speaker 00

  You have to work at it. Amber, poor Amber, she's put herself on a little diet now and she hasn't got a clue about food. She's just drinking soup all the time. I'm like, soup and toast. I'm like, I don't know if that's the way to lose weight. Soup has so much cream in it.

• 11:13Speaker 01

  You watch it, but she, she doesn't need to lose a pound. She looks fantastic.

• 11:17Speaker 00

  She said, everything's gotten really tight, but like, I would have yoghurts in her house. And she used to eat these yoghurts every night. And I looked, I was like, this is delicious. And I looked at the side, 490 calories, like yogurt. I was like, where the fuck did you buy this?

• 11:31Speaker 01

  The yoghurts will get you. The yoghurts will get you. Yeah, I know. The cream, they're delicious.

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• 12:44Speaker 01

  Sorry, but you're one. Now, the reason I bring it, bringing her up, obviously it's all over the news, but she refused her last meal.

• 12:51Speaker 00

  Death row meal. Well, I don't know if I'd want to go really full, because I want ribs and wings and I don't want to, I get a bit sweaty after that. I don't want to feel uncomfortable when I'm on the way out.

• 13:01Speaker 01

  Indeed. Well, you want to look good, you know, there's people looking at you through a glass window and all.

• 13:08Speaker 00

  God, it really, it's so bizarre that that like, happens. I just, I don't know how you could go and watch it. I couldn't, I don't think I could.

• 13:16Speaker 01

  I was listening. I'd go. I have a very morbid sense of curiosity, but so I went on, I went in anyway and I listened to the, obviously listened to a podcast as well. And they were saying that the problem is drug companies no longer want to be associated with the death penalty. So they're, so the drugs they've access to aren't great. And then also there's no doctors administering these things, because the doctors don't want to be involved in it either, because they've taken an oath to do no harm. So you have people who are all kind of unqualified. And also there's something about if you are an ex-drug addict, your veins are really small. Or if you come from, if you were, if you were born to a drug addict, your veins are really small. So between the jigs and the reels, now they're trying to keep her alive to kill her again.

• 13:58Speaker 00

  But they don't know, they actually don't know what they're going to do. But she's, so they are providing life-saving measures, but then they have to decide what they're going to do. But this isn't the first time something like this has happened, didn't? Wasn't there a fella who survived the electric chair? I mean, that must not be nice to survive that. I think that that is grotesque to be killed like that.

• 14:19Speaker 01

  Is that an old school now, like, as in when they had the bowl, the bowl on the head and all?

• 14:23Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But surviving that, but like even, is the electric chair still going, Joe? I think it is in some states, they still have the electric. I think they do in some states. I think that's just an awful way, like, the pain.

• 14:35Speaker 02

  I haven't checked it yet. I think she was given the option between the electric chair and the injection.

• 14:41Speaker 00

  What?

• 14:41Speaker 02

  Whilst we're throwing around theories, and I've, I heard this this week, but there's nothing to back it up. Apparently, death row inmates, when it comes to their execution day, will purposely dehydrate themselves because it makes it harder to find a vein on the day. That's something, apparently people do, no facts, that's not.

• 15:03Speaker 01

  Well, yeah, because I did think it was odd that she turned down the mail. It did feel like a bit of a strategy for some reason. I don't know why.

• 15:08Speaker 00

  I just, I just.

• 15:09Speaker 01

  Oh, she's, sorry, she's, she's conscious and speaking.

• 15:12Speaker 00

  Yeah, she only has burns on her arms. So where the injection went in, she just has burns. She's going to be completely back to normal. But then there's the whole thing of, right, has she paid the price or not? Because she did do an awful thing, like she murdered a girl and, and like she was on death row for a reason. But, but I just, I mean, I think it'd be worse to have to spend your life in prison on, on death row, being on your own. Like, I, I think that that's like a longer sentence than being killed, do you know what I mean? Like, you'd be stuck there with no one forever.

• 15:46Speaker 01

  I, I, I am against the death penalty per se, right? Because the problem with the death penalty is that a lot of people are, there's a lot of people, there's, innocent people will get killed in death row, right? It happens, right? They're wrongly accused and all that, right? But in the same breath, if anyone touched or harmed or killed anyone I love, I would want them dead. Do you know what I mean? So, but that's why I guess I'm not on the jury, you know, people who've killed anyone in my family. Like, that's why you're not allowed, because you're obviously massively biased. Yeah.

• 16:18Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 16:19Speaker 01

  Like, I can understand the family of that girl that she killed wanting her dead. Like, I completely understand that.

• 16:24Speaker 00

  But then I wondered, like, well, I mean, when I were going to know what's going to happen, I suppose that they were, she was on death row. So maybe she just goes back on to death row. But I, it's just, it's, it's very embarrassing for them, very embarrassing.

• 16:35Speaker 01

  It is, it's, it's, it's very embarrassing. And she's, she's still shackled to the bed, sorry, I'm just reading here as I talk. I mean, come on now.

• 16:44Speaker 00

  It's fucking.

• 16:44Speaker 01

  Where's she going?

• 16:45Speaker 00

  They're not letting her out. She can't go out, that's certainly not going to happen. But, but I just don't know about, about doing it, the whole thing over again. It's just, it just feels, it feels a bit like, it just feels a bit like crass or something, I don't know.

• 16:59Speaker 01

  You'd have to leave it now, you'd have to leave it now, wouldn't you? And just let her live. You would like.

• 17:04Speaker 00

  And they tried, they tried twice already.

• 17:07Speaker 01

  It would look barbaric now. It would look barbaric to like, you, you can't resuscitate someone to kill them again. My god. Although the crime she committed was absolutely horrific.

• 17:19Speaker 00

  Yeah, no, it wasn't, no, it wasn't great. She is on, on death row for a reason. Did you see?

• 17:25Speaker 02

  Would someone like to tell a joke? It's 15 minutes in now and all we've talked about is death. Would someone like?

• 17:29Speaker 01

  Not in the mood, actually.

• 17:31Speaker 00

  No, thanks, Joe.

• 17:32Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 17:33Speaker 00

  And I am not a comedian. And I said something funny already about, about the eyebrow lady.

• 17:39Speaker 01

  We've met her quota. Now I'd like, we've met her quota and now I'd like to talk about that, that pastor who murdered his wife.

• 17:46Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 17:48Speaker 00

  Well, that's interesting, because I'd like to talk about the death of Gypsy Rose Blanchard's husband.

• 17:55Speaker 01

  I'd like to talk about the correlation between Christians and murder.

• 17:59Speaker 02

  Okay, well, nothing but laughs between now and the end of the episode then.

• 18:03Speaker 01

  So, Gypsy Rose Blanchard, your man who killed her mother for her, she met him on a Christian dating website. And, yeah, and this, and this pastor was like singing about Jesus and all.

• 18:15Speaker 00

  Oh, are you talking about the pastor who killed his wife, that show that's on Netflix? God, it's a very dead, daddy show, isn't it, today?

• 18:22Speaker 01

  He's just been found guilty of killing his wife, murdering his wife in cold blood, shot her twice in the head while the kids were in the house. And he's a man of God. Okay.

• 18:34Speaker 00

  You are not a man of God.

• 18:36Speaker 01

  Certainly not.

• 18:38Speaker 02

  He's the former American Idol contestant, yes?

• 18:41Speaker 01

  Former American Idol, yeah.

• 18:42Speaker 00

  Oh, you're talking about him? I thought you were talking about, there's so many, there's another fella on Netflix about the pastor who killed his wife.

• 18:48Speaker 01

  Oh, I thought that was about him, I haven't watched it yet.

• 18:50Speaker 02

  There's Caleb Flynn from Ohio fatally shot his wife Ashley in February before trying to break up.

• 18:57Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's him, yeah. Off we go again.

• 18:59Speaker 00

  And the mistress talking about her wanting.

• 19:01Speaker 01

  The messages between the mistress and him, wow. Like, I think she should be done for it as well. Like, she, she was like, I want her dead and all, like, I don't, it blows my mind.

• 19:14Speaker 00

  Did she not go get, get anything though? Because you remember there was a girl and she kind of convinced this like suicidal boy to.

• 19:22Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 19:23Speaker 00

  And, and she got done for that because she was telling him to do it and telling him to get back in the car. So is it not the same kind of thing that your one was basically putting egg in your man on? It's just, it's so bizarre, the whole, it's just, it's so sad.

• 19:36Speaker 01

  It's, it's insane, these absolute nut jobs who think they're entitled to take someone's life because they don't want to be with them anymore. And the, and the, and the mistress is like, I hate her so much. It's like, you're the one, you're the one shagging her husband. I'd say she's not a fan of you either, to be honest. And when I, when I heard the two kids were in the house, I was like, this man is like.

• 19:58Speaker 00

  Oh my god. Well, he's obviously not mentally well either. You can't be mentally well to think that you're going, think you're going to get away with that as well. And to, to even want to do it to the mother of your children, like, get a, get a divorce. Like, what has happened? Just get a divorce, let her move on and you move on.

• 20:14Speaker 01

  Yeah, and then the, all the, the camera footage of him the night that he did it, and he's like hysterical. And then, and I was like, either he's a really good actor or he probably is shook, he's just shot his wife in the head twice, do you know what I mean? Like, but then he was, he was found guilty, the mistress is on the stand saying, I now hate him, he's ruined my life. Okay.

• 20:34Speaker 00

  No, you ruined your life.

• 20:35Speaker 01

  Yeah, I know.

• 20:36Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 20:37Speaker 01

  Your life, one woman has no life now. And, and then he starts bawling, crying. And I honestly, when I looked at it, thought he was going to admit to what he'd done and finally take accountability. No, he's just crying for himself. Anyway.

• 20:48Speaker 00

  He didn't admit it in the end?

• 20:49Speaker 01

  No, no.

• 20:51Speaker 00

  My god.

• 20:53Speaker 01

  Joe, can I just, if things aren't going well with Josie, can I just recommend? Go to a bit of counselling, you know, a bit of mediation potentially.

• 21:05Speaker 02

  That's good advice for anyone, I agree.

• 21:07Speaker 00

  Yeah, I don't think that just needs to.

• 21:10Speaker 01

  We'll block you, we won't, we'll be really disappointed.

• 21:13Speaker 02

  And I think that would be fair enough.

• 21:15Speaker 01

  Yeah, we'd be really disappointed in your show. There's other ways.

• 21:18Speaker 02

  An agreement here, I think.

• 21:19Speaker 01

  There's other ways to get out. Now, obviously if a woman did a, if you did a dispenser, I'd be like, fair.

• 21:28Speaker 00

  I'll warn him of that. I shall warn him of that.

• 21:31Speaker 01

  Joking, obviously. Obviously joking.

• 21:33Speaker 00

  Well, are you? Will we, uh, will we lift it up a little bit? And a story that I saw that I absolutely loved, because it reminded me very much of something I would likely do myself. The fitness influencer that did the Berlin. She did the Berlin Marathon show. She got a personal best of four hours, 53 minutes, which I thought to myself, that's not even that good considering what you did. So she posted all her times and like she was sponsored by Brooks is, is this running brand? And, and she posted all her times. She was caught on the back of a bike. So she was photographed on the back of a bike. She's had to admit to it. She's apologised.

• 22:16Speaker 00

  And now Brooks aren't sponsoring her anymore. Like, how on earth? Also, how did she only get 453 when she was on the back of a bike? How did she think she would not be stung?

• 22:29Speaker 01

  She's there in her, in her branded gear, in like, in her Brooks runners and all. And she's looking at her watch, like she's kind of checking her time and she's just sitting openly on the back of a bike. It's so strange. At what point did you not think you were going to get stung for that?

• 22:45Speaker 00

  No, she had to, like, she's had to come out with a big apology and everything like that.

• 22:49Speaker 01

  She also went, she was supposed, she was like, oh, it's a personal best.

• 22:52Speaker 00

  I know.

• 22:53Speaker 01

  A PB, I saw someone on TikTok was like, do you mean a pedalling best? That's very funny.

• 23:00Speaker 00

  I just, but like loads of people do that. I was looking up one and there was a fella and they've, they've nicknamed him Foe Farah. Because he basically, he did a marathon in the first half, he did it in like two and a half hours. And then the second half, he did it in an hour. And everyone was like, that's actually a better time than Mo Farah did it in. So they've all just nicknamed him Foe Farah. I think it's so good.

• 23:23Speaker 01

  So funny. Apparently like it's a proper little epidemic. Like there's a.

• 23:27Speaker 00

  Oh, everyone's cheating.

• 23:28Speaker 01

  There's a website called Marathon Investigation, run by a guy who literally is like, he's out there going full Jessica Fletcher. Like using drones and data points to see is anyone actually running. And, and then people are bib swapping. Like they're wearing other.

• 23:43Speaker 00

  Oh, stop.

• 23:44Speaker 01

  There was some case where there was some young man found running a marathon for an older woman. He was wearing her bib. Like, this is because, this is for instant, this is the, this is just for posting. This is just like the performance of running community who wants you to think they have a great life.

• 24:01Speaker 00

  The running community are like, they're very, like, there's, they're very intense, I feel like. Svenny, like, obviously loves running, but like, like the community itself, they're just like, they're really obsessed with like doing well and getting good times and all this kind of stuff. It's, it's just, well, I suppose it's, it's like, you're either into it or you're not into it, but like.

• 24:21Speaker 01

  But I was asked, I was asked by, um, I was asked by a charity, would I run the marathon next year? I said, oh, well, so when I get it, when I give my bib to one of the canyon runners and you'll see me finish it in seven minutes.

• 24:37Speaker 01

  Just know there's been foul play.

• 24:41Speaker 01

  I was like, I'll do the marathon. I'm, I'm not going to run it. I'll do it, but I'll be taking shortcuts. I'll be going to Baskin Eaters through shopping centres and all. Can't wait.

• 24:49Speaker 00

  I don't think you'd have the attention span to complete a whole marathon. How would you get through the whole thing? No way. You'd get so bored.

• 25:02Speaker 01

  I like the feeling of running. Like when you get into it, you do feel great about yourself and the endorphins are next level. And I know you like running as well, but it's the, if I could listen to a podcast and just plod along and be kind of entertained mentally while running, I would do it. But I can't because when I listen to a podcast, I just stop. I just start walking because I'm enjoying the podcast.

• 25:22Speaker 00

  I just don't have any aspirations to do a marathon. I just, I, I remember I did, I did 5K a day when Svenny was doing, um, his, which I thought was a great achievement for myself. And I'm a 5K person. I don't want to do any more than a 5K. I don't even think I'd get a sense of achievement. Like when I did that 5K day, when it was over, I was like, I don't feel any sense of achievement.

• 25:42Speaker 01

  Really?

• 25:43Speaker 00

  I didn't. And I think if I did a marathon, I also wouldn't feel any sense of achievement. So, because it's not something that's on my bucket list. Like I just, I'm not interested in it. If I can cover up my black eye bags, I feel a sense of achievement every day when I do that, but I just wouldn't.

• 25:59Speaker 01

  Do you remember I overheard you, do you remember I overheard you talking to yourself and you went, must always be accomplishing? Remember I heard you talking to yourself and you were walking around down in the basement, you were like, must always be accomplishing. Or achieving, it was something like that. So I think because you've such, you're, because you're mentally ill about always needing to be achieving things, that it's very hard for you to hit that dopamine. Do you know what I mean?

• 26:21Speaker 00

  Of achievement.

• 26:22Speaker 01

  Yeah, you don't feel achievement that easy because you've very high standards for yourself. Whereas a 53 minutes on the treadmill now, I'm like, I'm like, where's my badge?

• 26:31Speaker 00

  I've absolutely nailed it.

• 26:33Speaker 01

  I'm looking for the podium, do you know what I mean?

• 26:36Speaker 01

  Down a fly fish, I'm like looking for the podium because I've done four minutes on the rower.

• 26:41Speaker 00

  No.

• 26:42Speaker 01

  There was a woman, Rosie Ruas, who is like a famous case that obviously I wasn't aware of. And back in the seventies, I think, who started the, she was the fastest running type. I mean, you know, she, it was her second marathon. She, she won, no one near her. She wasn't like, you know, a big member of the marathon running community in, in any capacity.

• 27:07Speaker 01

  And she'd started it. If they found out anyway, she started it and then took the subway and then just ran in at the end. Yeah.

• 27:15Speaker 00

  Do you remember? Well, I suppose if they're not going to find out, but now everyone finds out on people's trackers. But do you remember there was that girl in Ireland who basically, who, now I think she was only two to 5K or something, but somebody, like she had got, like, and everyone went mental and it was all over TikTok and people were saying that this person was, was lying about doing some kind of a 5K. She was doing a case to 5K and they just said that was full of shit. And people went mad even about that.

• 27:41Speaker 01

  Yeah, it was an influencer.

• 27:42Speaker 00

  Give her the 5K.

• 27:43Speaker 01

  I think she was doing it for, for a brand or something. I can't remember the details, but yeah, she was stung. Yeah, she was stung. I'd say it's rampant. Apparently there was a marathon in Mexico where 11,000 people were done for fraud.

• 27:58Speaker 00

  Well, there's so many people that do, what is it in the London Marathon? Is it like 150,000 people apply, Joe? Or is it 150,000 people that do it and like more apply? It's some crazy, like, they have to do a ballot. So you don't necessarily get into the, the marathon because so many people want to do it and it's just going up and up and up now. God, maybe there is some.

• 28:15Speaker 02

  1.3 million people applied for the marathon next year.

• 28:21Speaker 01

  Wow, 1.3 nut jobs.

• 28:23Speaker 02

  They're running it over two days next.

• 28:26Speaker 00

  And how many people can do it in a day?

• 28:29Speaker 02

  Uh, around 100,000 total participants, so 50,000 each day.

• 28:35Speaker 01

  That's a lot of content creation.

• 28:37Speaker 00

  Well, I was way off with the numbers there, to be fair.

• 28:41Speaker 02

  Why change the habit of a, of a podcast like?

• 28:44Speaker 01

  It's performative. It's performative.

• 28:47Speaker 00

  We're not runners. This isn't Sven's podcast. Svenny asked me to go on his podcast and I was like, what am I going to do on there? I was like, I'm not a runner. And he was like, you like running? You did that? That's how he reminded me of the 5K day. And I said, you are dead right. I'll go on and I will.

• 29:03Speaker 01

  It's a slow day on the guest booking. He's like, fuck. He asked her a mind vogue, but she ran once. She's like, you're dead right, actually, yeah.

• 29:10Speaker 00

  You're dead right. I could be actually very inspiring to a lot of people.

• 29:14Speaker 01

  We could do a half marathon together for, for charity.

• 29:18Speaker 00

  To be honest with you, I feel like you would say yes to it and then I'd say yes and I'd get into it and then you'd dump me and I wouldn't, and then I'd have to do it alone.

• 29:27Speaker 01

  How dare you know me so well?

• 29:29Speaker 00

  It's, it's so true. It's like.

• 29:31Speaker 01

  Why, you put me in a little wheelbarrow and just push me along. Like those prams that the women, the postpartum runners, that they put the babies in the prom and they run. I could go in the prom.

• 29:42Speaker 00

  Do you know what? I'll just put you on my back. I'll put you on my back. Screw it.

• 29:46Speaker 01

  You're not that tall.

• 29:47Speaker 00

  I'll give you a jockey back. I'm going to do the whole thing.

• 29:52Speaker 01

  I actually, I was, I was walking around Clapham Common the other day and there was a woman running towards me and she, she, she started freaking out. And she was listening to our, listening to our podcast. And then I was just like there in front of her. But a lot of people run. I get messages from women a lot saying they listen to us in the gym and stuff. I don't know how. I have to listen to like nosebleed techno to do any movement at all.

• 30:17Speaker 00

  Here, I wanted to update you because you reminded me of, um, it because of runners and there are a lot of good looking runners. If people were trying to, oh, I know. There's a lot of good looking runners that people are, are thinking of getting into runners. Remember I was telling you about the hunk shortage? The hunk shortage?

• 30:34Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 30:35Speaker 00

  For Mr. England. Well, I was doing heart breakfast this week and I told Jamie Dixon about the hunk shortage. And both of us were obviously equally appalled that this, this Mr. England competition, and he had seven people. We had the woman on who looks after Mr. England and she came on to explain to us. Now they don't, she said, she said they got up to 10 people, but we had spoken about it on the radio the day before. But she said, a lot of people don't know that they've been signed up and then they don't want to do it. Listen to the requirements, right? They have to be four, under 42. Obviously you have to have some level of like good lookingness. Uh, you have to be able to play an instrument or do something special.

• 31:16Speaker 00

  You have to also have charitable causes that you're working for. And I just said, that's the problem. There is, there isn't any more than seven men like that in the UK.

• 31:28Speaker 01

  These people have just ripped off the Rosa Trelle.

• 31:31Speaker 00

  You're aiming too high.

• 31:34Speaker 01

  What's the rose of relief?

• 31:36Speaker 00

  Well, it's all kind of beauty pageants, but I forgot about that part of it. I'm like, so they have to be able to play the trombone and be down at Dogs Trust, walking the dogs as well as being good looking and as well as being sound and under the age of 42. No one's achieved that by the age of 42. Forget it.

• 31:52Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's that. Those men don't exist. I was asked recently to go and host or judge something called Mr. Personality in Killkenny. I'm not around.

• 32:03Speaker 00

  Please say, what?

• 32:05Speaker 01

  I'm not around.

• 32:06Speaker 00

  Could you not?

• 32:07Speaker 01

  They were actually saying, they're like, look, there's no fee, et cetera. But we think she definitely got some content for the pod out of us. I was like, you're right, I would, but I'm not available. I'm not available.

• 32:17Speaker 00

  I'd like to say I would take your place, but I don't like being asked second.

• 32:21Speaker 01

  No, of course not.

• 32:22Speaker 00

  I don't want to go to Killkenny. I don't have time. I love Killkenny. No shade.

• 32:27Speaker 01

  Yeah, I was gonna say, I don't know. I don't know why you're trying to piss off the whole town of Killkenny.

• 32:31Speaker 00

  Ah, no, Killkenny's gorgeous. Sorry, I've been to Killkenny Castle. I won't have a bad word said about Killkenny. I just can't even go. Currently, I can't even go into Soho to try and get a facial because I just don't have the time. Who knew having four kids was gonna take up so much of my time?

• 32:47Speaker 01

  Who would have thought it?

• 32:49Speaker 00

  Oh, no.

• 32:52Speaker 01

  Did you see the meme I sent you with the two women chatting outside the house with the fan? Your one's just had her fourth baby. And now she's like, a fourth baby? And she goes, yeah, it's all a bit up in the air at the moment. She goes, do you mean your legs? Or something like that. I sent it to you.

• 33:07Speaker 00

  I actually haven't opened it.

• 33:09Speaker 01

  You don't open my memes anymore.

• 33:12Speaker 00

  I do, but you're, we're just on, we're just on different time zones.

• 33:17Speaker 02

  Also see four children. I think that probably.

• 33:20Speaker 00

  I don't open anything anymore.

• 33:22Speaker 01

  I got a message from a woman I know the other week was very funny. She's like, hey, you're not opening any of my memes anymore. Just let me know and I'll stop sending them.

• 33:31Speaker 01

  I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I'll go in there and read them now. Sorry.

• 33:35Speaker 00

  Amber's been sending me TikToks relentlessly for six months. I've said, Amber, I don't have TikTok on my phone. I do have a TikTok. Bridie puts stuff on TikTok for me. But I know that it's too addictive for me and she keeps sending it. Now she's just like, oh, well now I just send them because it's where I save the ones that I want to see again.

• 33:53Speaker 00

  Joe, we're trying not to have any more dead chat, but this Gypsy Rose thing is going everywhere and it's kind of wild. The internet is going insane about us.

• 34:02Speaker 02

  We're this far in, I don't think we can change the direction of travel. So let's carry on.

• 34:08Speaker 00

  R I P 20 for 20% off Bear by Vogue. Okay, I'm gonna set that up.

• 34:14Speaker 01

  It's a great idea.

• 34:17Speaker 01

  Or you could set up a competition that they get, they get to tan you in, like they, they get to go down and help the mortician tan your body.

• 34:27Speaker 00

  I wonder now, wouldn't that be interesting to see? That's a really good, do you know what? That might be our next product. We should do a little bit of testing because I don't know how tan takes to death. But we should, if anyone would like to donate their bodies to Bear by Vogue, we would like to tan them and see in depth if the tan takes. And then we could create a product which could be R I P.

• 34:50Speaker 01

  I think if anything's gonna bring you back from the dead, it's the potential of you going down streaky. So I think it could be a good way to mentally resuscitate you, yeah.

• 34:59Speaker 00

  To keep me alive. Yeah.

• 35:00Speaker 01

  Perfect.

• 35:02Speaker 00

  Okay, Gypsy Rose.

• 35:04Speaker 01

  Jump scare. It's like when I open my, I always say the only thing that can sober me up is when I open Hinge and I see my most compatible. Do you know the recommendations? And I'm like, wow, wow, wow.

• 35:16Speaker 00

  That would really, yeah. I, I don't know how I would fare in the dating world. Well, I know that no one would want to date me anyway because I have four kids now. You can see, you could get away with three. You're not getting away with four, not as a woman.

• 35:28Speaker 01

  I, yeah, I don't know. Sometimes I'm shocked when I, not friend, I see women with a load of kids and I'm like, how come you can meet somebody? You've got baggage. And then I realise the fact that I don't have kids at this stage is actually my baggage. You're like.

• 35:44Speaker 00

  No, no, no, no, no. I don't know. I don't know.

• 35:53Speaker 01

  Gypsy Rose Blanchard famously went to prison for killing her mother. She is the victim of, I've stopped.

• 35:59Speaker 00

  Munchausen's.

• 36:01Speaker 01

  Yeah, the munchies.

• 36:04Speaker 01

  Feels a little belittling for what it is. Her mother had the munchies and she ended up making Gypsy Rose Blanchard's life a fucking nightmare. Pulled out all her teeth, had her in a wheelchair, et cetera. And Gypsy Rose met a boy on a Christian dating website. The boy, the man who is, I have his name here, actually.

• 36:23Speaker 00

  So it's not, the boy isn't the ma, isn't the current husband?

• 36:27Speaker 01

  No.

• 36:28Speaker 00

  Okay, I didn't know that.

• 36:29Speaker 01

  Nicholas Godgin. Probably not pronounced that right. He is, he's still in prison. He's go, he's going nowhere.

• 36:36Speaker 00

  Well, she, she went to prison though. She went to prison for like eight years or something, didn't she?

• 36:40Speaker 01

  She did, yeah. And she's been, she's really hit the grind running since she came out. I can tell you.

• 36:46Speaker 00

  She walked back out. Everybody kind of felt sorry for her and everything when she, when she came back. She met somebody pretty quickly when she got out of prison.

• 36:54Speaker 01

  Well, she actually met someone while she was in prison.

• 36:57Speaker 00

  What?

• 36:58Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah.

• 36:59Speaker 00

  You think I've got baggage? She was, she met someone in prison when she was in there for murder.

• 37:04Speaker 01

  Yeah, well, you know, people love, they love a prisoner. They love the story of it all. And she arrived back out. She got a documentary, Life After Locked Up or something. And, but the guy, so she's had several relationships. She's been married once. Meanwhile, you're, the guy who killed her mother is still in prison. I see he's thrilled. And then this guy who was found, her, her recent fiance.

• 37:29Speaker 00

  So he was 34. His name's Ken Erker and he died at the age of 34 and they're, they're currently investigating his death. Now, no one knows probably why, but people are suspicious that it might have been an overdose. But the thing about it is, people, Gypsy Rose basically did a TikTok where she, she said she was gonna kill him if he cheated. So basically someone said, if she was gonna kill him and she commented, no, but if he cheats, dot, dot, dot. And now, and now, and now that he's dead, everybody's like, this is all vicious.

• 38:01Speaker 01

  I know. But like, come on, like as if, imagine going to prison for killing someone, coming back out and then like.

• 38:09Speaker 00

  But it's the perfect crime. It's like, no one's gonna think that I've done this again. There's absolutely no, no way. She's like, she could go on a little spree if she wanted to, I think. And everyone would be like, there's no way she'd be stupid enough to do that again.

• 38:21Speaker 01

  I don't know. It's like, it's like, it's like digging yourself out of Alcatraz and then going back because you forgot your charger. Or like just going back to busy, going back to visit your mates. Do you know what I mean? Hey, like I just, I think it would be really stupid. Apparently he died of an overdose. God love him.

• 38:38Speaker 00

  God, but the sister was saying, his sister was saying that, that, that they'd broken up when he had died. And Gypsy's hiding some kind of truth. So because her sister's now saying that, everyone's like, what is going on? What is she hiding?

• 38:52Speaker 01

  She's basically like the Grim Reaper with a set of veneers. Like she, I mean, I wouldn't go anywhere near her at this point. Now, her mother, but her mother, she was a victim of her mother's mental illness now, to be fair, you know?

• 39:03Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 39:03Speaker 01

  But I, I mean, she, her career has really taken off. Pat would want to watch herself. She's looking to have this Netflix thing across the line because I mean.

• 39:12Speaker 00

  Well, Sandra would really want to watch it because I haven't got a Netflix thing.

• 39:15Speaker 01

  Yeah. Do a bit of hard time. Knock her off.

• 39:21Speaker 00

  Bye, Sandra.

• 39:22Speaker 01

  Yeah, you've got, also, I, I do find it shocking that like, look, what, is that my problem? I don't have a parole officer. Like, why can't I meet somebody? And like Gypsy Rose Blanchard is on her third marriage.

• 39:36Speaker 00

  Well, she's putting herself out there. You're not putting yourself out there. So you've only got yourself to blame. You're hiding away. You're not really interested. Gypsy's even putting in the groundwork in prison. Can't take it away from her.

• 39:49Speaker 01

  She is. So the guy who, who passed away, he was going for full custody of her daughter Aurora. And so things have been, things haven't been good between them, but she texts him saying happy birthday and he didn't write back. And that's how she found out that he, he died. But I was like, we're all the same. Like no matter what, how bad the relationship is, you'll always, well, you'll always use the birthday as an excuse to get in contact. You know what I mean?

• 40:11Speaker 00

  Stop.

• 40:12Speaker 01

  You're like, it's his birthday. They're like, he's got a restraining order. It's his birthday. I have to say, it's his birthday. Real.

• 40:20Speaker 00

  So.

• 40:22Speaker 01

  Yeah, she's still, she was still banging out the happy birthday texts, even though they were killing each other.

• 40:27Speaker 00

  I remember Sven was going out with somebody like, like before me, like quite a while before me as well. And like, we had been together for like seven or eight months. And she texts him and she was like, hey, I think I left this ornament in your house. And I'm like, ornament? That's a good one.

• 40:44Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 40:45Speaker 00

  It's anything. You'll go for anything.

• 40:48Speaker 01

  I think I left a hair bobbing, yeah.

• 40:50Speaker 00

  My favourite one though.

• 40:53Speaker 01

  I left some plug hair there, actually.

• 40:57Speaker 01

  My collecting it, actually, I'm low on plug hair, you wouldn't mind. Yeah, I'll knock over with a bottle of wine and collect the plug hair. And the bobby pin, and the bobby pin.

• 41:07Speaker 00

  Bobby pins are expensive.

• 41:09Speaker 01

  I've put on another three arena, and I mean, and I need to plug it, obviously. 11th of December, 2026. Come, join me, watch me shoot Vogue out of a cannon.

• 41:20Speaker 00

  Would you put, put one on a bit closer to Christmas for me? Because I'm having to travel back now for one of these, for God's sake.

• 41:26Speaker 01

  I know.

• 41:27Speaker 00

  Can we do fifth and final, fifth and final?

• 41:29Speaker 01

  We could zoom you in.

• 41:30Speaker 00

  I'm closer to Christmas. No, no, no, no, no, I have to be there in person, but I would like to. So this is the fourth and final, but I'm hoping for fifth and final. Maybe the 22nd.

• 41:40Speaker 01

  Once you say final, it's final.

• 41:42Speaker 00

  Oh, for God's sake, final, book my flights.

• 41:45Speaker 01

  Yeah, you're gonna have to come over, I'm afraid. Yeah, and Jo, you're coming over as well, aren't you?

• 41:51Speaker 02

  We're gonna try, I'm gonna try and get over so we can do an episode over in the podcast Spiritual Heart and Homeland.

• 41:58Speaker 01

  Yeah, I think that's a good idea.

• 42:00Speaker 00

  Well, can we touch, can we touch on Pete Davidson?

• 42:04Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 42:05Speaker 00

  Do you know the way we used to have, well, we had spoof of the week for half a week, remember?

• 42:11Speaker 02

  It never retired, we never actually retired it.

• 42:14Speaker 00

  We never retired it. Can I have a spoof of the week this week?

• 42:18Speaker 01

  It's an open segment.

• 42:20Speaker 00

  Okay, perfect. My spoof of the week, my spoof of the week this week is Pete Davidson. You know, the comedian, the American comedian, he does really well with the leades. He's always gone out with some total ride.

• 42:31Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 42:33Speaker 00

  So he's basically come out and he has had a pop at influencers. So he can't stand influencers. And he says in an interview at Variety magazine, he was like, girls are just talking to themselves on the internet. And they're like, okay, come get ready with me. And I'm like, who are you? What do you do? Nothing. What is this? And I just thought, they're entertaining people, Peter. I love the get ready with me videos or rest, or restock my pantries. I'd be very sad without those videos. And I always, I like, it kind of annoys me, obviously, because I do a little, I dabble in a little bit of the content creation myself. And I just think people just shit on it without even knowing anything about it.

• 43:12Speaker 00

  And as well with him, he, he was going out with the biggest influencer in the entire world, Kim Kardashian. And he's just slagging everybody off. And it's like, you're entertaining people on stage and the influencers trying on their clothes and getting ready are entertaining myself and Joanne.

• 43:30Speaker 01

  Yeah, and baby Remy.

• 43:32Speaker 00

  And Remy, he loves to get ready with me.

• 43:34Speaker 01

  But, but you know what I think the most important part of this whole story is? He said girls. He didn't say men, he didn't say influencers. He said young girl. He was basically making out like young girls doing get ready with me videos is like the end of the world as we know it. And he's like, and they're making millions and millions. They're not, they're, come on, like, there's very few of them making that much money. There's a lot of gamers making a shit ton of cash as well, Pete. And also, Pete, sorry. You, you've worked, what's the difference with them working with brands and stuff? Like, you work with brands all the time, you've done loads of ads and stuff, what's the difference?

• 44:07Speaker 00

  It does, it does read a bit misogynistic. I didn't even realise that until you pointed it out.

• 44:12Speaker 01

  Very much so, very misogynistic.

• 44:15Speaker 00

  Slightly bitter and jealous, I would say as well. It's like, just because, like, you think the work that they're doing shouldn't be paid, doesn't mean that it shouldn't. And you're doing whatever ads you're doing and whatever jobs that you're doing. And also, God's Saudi Arabia, which you turned down.

• 44:30Speaker 01

  He went to Riyadh, I did, I forgot he went to Riyadh. But also, the hypocrisy of it is, he's basically saying, I don't know who you are, how dare you be monetising your personality? I don't know who you are. Pete, all you do is monetise your personality. That's stand up, is monetising your personality. You've, like, you're, you're, you had a documentary about your, your childhood or Staten Island or whatever. Like, it's all, it's all you're monetising, you're who you are as a person, you're not an actor. Do you know what I mean? Like, you're doing the exact same thing, but for some reason, girls having confidence on the internet and believing in themselves and putting themselves out there really bothers him. What's that about? One of his ex-girlfriends has come out and said he's an awful person. She goes, I found out we weren't seeing each other anymore when I saw a video of him on TikTok going out with someone way more famous than me.

• 45:14Speaker 00

  Oh, God.

• 45:16Speaker 01

  And I'm sure, I'm pretty sure his baby mama has put up posts before saying that she's financially doing it on her own, that he's not contributing financially. Allegedly, Jo, I can see it.

• 45:24Speaker 00

  He's a bit of a, he's a bit of a, he is a bit of a star effort.

• 45:28Speaker 01

  He's a bit of a star effort.

• 45:31Speaker 00

  I don't know why I've said effort when I've just been swearing for the whole podcast.

• 45:35Speaker 01

  We're trying to swear less.

• 45:37Speaker 00

  I'm limiting my swearing.

• 45:39Speaker 02

  Ongoing process, that is.

• 45:40Speaker 01

  Yeah, we're trying to swear less. Because it does sound very sharp on the ears and we're sharp enough, I think.

• 45:46Speaker 00

  It is, it is, I agree. Anyway, yeah, so he's a bit of a star effort and like, stop putting down the girlos and, and girls as well, keep doing your get ready with me. I personally love them.

• 45:57Speaker 01

  Oh, nothing, nothing pleases me more than watching a Korean woman sanitize her apartment.

• 46:02Speaker 00

  Oh, do you know what? I love, I love watching people get their carpet cleansed. Don't think about not putting up that content. Carpet cleaning and power hosing is my go-to.

• 46:11Speaker 01

  And it's, I can say, I love a power hose. Where are those carpets, where are they dug those carpets out? I mean, what, like, like, where from?

• 46:20Speaker 00

  The ones where they rescued.

• 46:22Speaker 01

  Like, where are they getting the carpets? Covered in lava and all, you're like, oh my God, they're drilling down to the earth's core to get the carpets from hell. But I will say, Pete Davidson, it's a real flag for you to be bothered about young girls making money on the internet. It's a real flag, flag mac flag face.

• 46:45Speaker 00

  Yeah, and the flag would be the colour Jarrig, which is red in Irish.

• 46:50Speaker 01

  It'd be, it would be Jumenta.

• 46:54Speaker 00

  What's Jumenta?

• 46:57Speaker 01

  Jumenta?

• 46:58Speaker 00

  It's an Irish word.

• 47:00Speaker 01

  I've been flying. I, you know yourself now.

• 47:04Speaker 00

  Do you think Jumenta was?

• 47:06Speaker 01

  Magenta.

• 47:08Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 47:09Speaker 01

  There you go, yeah.

• 47:15Speaker 00

  I actually prefer the word.

• 47:17Speaker 01

  Jumenta.

• 47:18Speaker 00

  Jumenta, yeah, new Jumenta.

• 47:21Speaker 01

  It'd be a great drag name for me, actually, Jumenta.

• 47:25Speaker 00

  I thought you, I thought you were talking Irish. I don't know that Irish word.

• 47:32Speaker 01

  Do you know, I keep, I keep meaning to do Duolingo for the Irish language. I was working with Aisling B recently, she was on, she was on Unacceptable, she was on my, on my team. Do you know, she's affluent, she's an absolute gaelgore. We were trying to have a private conversation, but we were mic'd, obviously, but it's England. So she was like, speaking in Irish, and I understood almost everything she was saying, but I couldn't say anything back.

• 47:55Speaker 00

  That's actually kind of impressive. And it is good for a bit of, for a bit of slagging people off. And like, mine kind of only extends to gruaig, you know?

• 48:04Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 48:05Speaker 00

  That's hair, by the way, Jo. So we say that about you all the time, we're like, gruaig.

• 48:09Speaker 01

  Unless I was gonna slag someone off by calling them a window, I would have no, no way of slagging anyone off.

• 48:16Speaker 00

  A fwyniog.

• 48:17Speaker 01

  What a fucking fwyniog. That lad, because he's so fwyniog, I can tell you. Or Milsean.

• 48:25Speaker 00

  What a groniog, a groniog is a hedgehog.

• 48:30Speaker 01

  Is it?

• 48:31Speaker 00

  Total groniog.

• 48:33Speaker 01

  That actually would work.

• 48:35Speaker 00

  What is his name? Arlo Hanlon on my, on, when I interviewed him before, he was like, oh my God, Pog Mahone. And he couldn't stop laughing because he thought he'd made the best joke ever about my name. He was like, you should be called Pog Mahone.

• 48:49Speaker 01

  I don't get it.

• 48:50Speaker 00

  Vogue Mahone, maybe he said Vogue Mahone. I don't know. I'm also tired.

• 48:56Speaker 01

  I know. We've a new, we've a new mother and Jumenta. Joanne, he's just fallen off a long haul between the two of us now.

• 49:06Speaker 00

  Well, we hope you enjoyed the uplifting, the uplifting podcast.

• 49:12Speaker 02

  Jumenta, everyone, Jumenta.

• 49:13Speaker 01

  The plague's back, everyone's dead, Jumenta.

• 49:23Speaker 04

  This has been a global production.